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| 1 | Debunking "The Future is Female"Fair enough IM just pointing that its a purely mental thing ( in the sense its all the mind not thats it is bad) For sure man, identity politics is practically pure poison no matter which way you slice it. It over indexes on group identities, which sublimates and subordinates the individual--which is exactly the opposite of classic liberal (See: John Locke) thought. In short; who honestly gives a fuck who anyone else wants to fuck, provided they are consenting adults? Why should it matter? Fair … | /r/MensRights | 18/04/25 04:55 PM |
| 2 | Debunking "The Future is Female"Im not Saying thats how i feel its how many of these people will feel Perhaps, perhaps not. It is an unreasonable belief to hold, given it is not grounded in reason or reality. i wonder if thats more so because of the whole "you can get lots of benfits from being seen as gay" so women will use it to gain the upper hand and ive seen this where someone is."lesbian" and they have a husband down the line and i know it isnt them using him as a beard because they were quite open about it before Men an… | /r/MensRights | 18/04/25 04:35 PM |
| 3 | Debunking "The Future is Female"And with the constant demonisation of men, well, most women are brainwashed into thinking the only benefit of men is kids so if thats gone Blunt, perhapse even crude, but somewhat accurate. Why not? why not be with a girl? I'm not saying female sexuality is fluid or not. I've seen evidence to suggest it is, and evidence to suggest it isn't. But I'd advise caution in making claims that boil down to "well, I didn't like fucking X, so I guess I'll fuck Y instead." There's no real reason not to be? … | /r/MensRights | 18/04/25 04:02 PM |
| 2 | Debunking "The Future is Female"but thats sexist acording to le feminists) I wouldn't worry too much about what feminists claim. Most of them don't know their ideology from their own ideas, are barely coherent enough to form a single non-contradictory train of thought, and terminally incapable of approaching things from a reasoned, reality based epistemology. In short; you can safely assume that if they don't like the conclusion, they'll claim it is sexist. and the media pushes it becuase they know some will only the conservat… | /r/MensRights | 18/04/25 04:02 PM |
| 2 | Debunking "The Future is Female"thats what makes me think its a lesbian tool to pressure women to fuck em Cool your jets, turbo. Social dynamics are far more sophisticated than that, and while sexuality informs a great deal of human nature, sex doesn't. To reduce feminist ideology as a brainwashing device to, presumably, "turn women gay" is not only myopic, but it's simply false. No ifs, buts, maybes. But also that means its not about Muh choice about abortion its just they dont wont women to have the happniess of children and… | /r/MensRights | 18/04/25 04:01 PM |
| 12 | Debunking "The Future is Female"Simone de Beauvoir was explicit: women should not be authorized to stay at home and care for children, because if they were, too many women would make that choice. Feminism doesn’t give a fuck about women, not really. The most common thread in feminism isn’t pro-women, it’s anti men | /r/MensRights | 18/04/25 02:57 PM |
| 6 | Debunking "The Future is Female"As an aside, if you read Gearharts essay, it doesn’t say zero men. It just endorses a manageable, safe amount of us. 1 to 10% of the global population iirc. That way we can contribute our genetic material safely without disrupting the feminist utopia of women with our male presence | /r/MensRights | 18/04/25 02:26 PM |
| 3 | Debunking "The Future is Female"According to feminist thought leaders like Gearhart, female sexual fantasy as it pertains to men is an imposed psychosis on the part of patriarchal dominance over women. In layman’s terms, the reality of some women possessing consensual non-consent fantasies, or ravager-ravagee fantasies (“rape” fantasies for the kink illiterate) is implied to be a victim-generated coping mechanism, a way for women to psychologically endure the inherent oppression of existing in a patriarchal rape culture, or pa… | /r/MensRights | 18/04/25 02:24 PM |
| 11 | Debunking "The Future is Female"All good mate. And yeah, it isn’t new. My operating principle these days regarding any feminist assertion is to treat it as projection. So far it hasn’t led me astray. Fact of the matter is that for every claim of female oppression that feminism has made in the last nearly 200 years (since 1848), every one of them is either sex neutral (ie, the shitty circumstance affects men and women mostly equally, like domestic violence and rape) or sex-inverse (that what they’re claiming is actually a probl… | /r/MensRights | 18/04/25 01:50 PM |
| 26 | Debunking "The Future is Female"You should probably read the essay that slogan came from (the future—if there is one—is female, by Sally Miller-Gearhart.) Your post isn’t wrong, per se, but it’s missing the point of the source material (which is far darker than you likely anticipate. Hint: it involves male eugenics) | /r/MensRights | 18/04/25 01:32 PM |
| 1 | No, feminism is not right-wing. The progressive left has a toxicity problem, and we have to face it to change itRespectfully, you have, and in even clearer terms this time, though I think your brush past it because you dont see it as a problem, presumably because everyone does it. We agree that the label (democratism, republicanism, etc) is a marketing term for a political movement/praxis. This extends to progressivism. But the concept of a democrscy and a republic have structures that must be referenced to for them to possess even a shred of legitimacy and coherence in its implicit claim to be moral . Pr… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/04/25 04:16 AM |
| 1 | No, feminism is not right-wing. The progressive left has a toxicity problem, and we have to face it to change itOkay, one more go of it then: You’ve just conceded my point, and I’m not even sure you’ve realised it. Yes, everyone thinks their label reflects good things; ideological labels are aspirations, not inherently descriptive. However, where liberty, democracy, and republicanism are structures with trade-offs, “progress” is a frontloaded moral claim assumed in the name itself, it’s a floating signifier, because it doesn’t have structured or consistent principles. It’s a marketing term. And given you’… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/04/25 03:17 AM |
| 1 | No, feminism is not right-wing. The progressive left has a toxicity problem, and we have to face it to change itFair enough, I don’t think I can bridge then epistemological divide between us at this point. The “special authority” I was referring to wasn’t judicial authority, or legal authority, but sociocultural. It’s the implicit association of the term “progressivism” with forward positive progress, with the praxis/actions of the movement who invokes the ideal/value of progress/positive change as the governing principle of all that the movement does that I’m referring to. I’m not sure what you’re gettin… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/04/25 02:25 AM |
| 1 | No, feminism is not right-wing. The progressive left has a toxicity problem, and we have to face it to change itThat the same case can be made for other ideological categories (conservativism, etc) doesn’t detract from my point. Apart from that I think we’re in agreement, just talking past each other. The observation that the progressive movement is fundamentally hypocritical is paramount. Their claim to championing progressive values might not have been intentionally brilliant, but the effect no doubt has been. Shielded by the association of “progress” as a positive force for positive change, any opposit… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/04/25 12:57 AM |
| 2 | No, feminism is not right-wing. The progressive left has a toxicity problem, and we have to face it to change itActing in opposition to axiomatic principles is fundamentally hypocritical. Such is the trouble with conflating the means to the end with the end itself. Progression towards a more ideal state is a mission statement both the left and the right agree with, the means differs between left and right ideologies. This is what I mean by it being a brilliantly strategic move by folks consumed with identity politics/post modern radical deconstructivists/critical consciousness theory to have branded their… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/04/25 11:38 PM |
| 2 | No, feminism is not right-wing. The progressive left has a toxicity problem, and we have to face it to change itWhat if the “progressive” thing to do is to conserve values, or remove certain de facto or de jure rights? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/04/25 11:17 PM |
| 7 | No, feminism is not right-wing. The progressive left has a toxicity problem, and we have to face it to change itDisagree about egalitarianism. Progressivism is a wonderful marketing term. It was quite the brilliant move to secure that name, given it assumes positive forward movement. The trouble with the assumption that progressivism is positive forward movement is it’s a category error; it does not follow ipso facto. It’s in this murky area where highly discriminatory ideologies do their dirty work. Egalitarianism advocates equality, sure, but what happens where progressivists deem, by making essentialis… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/04/25 09:28 PM |
| 6 | No, feminism is not right-wing. The progressive left has a toxicity problem, and we have to face it to change itI think you mean feminists circa 1950 and on. Simone de Beauvoir’s The Second Sex kicked off the whole notion that women aren’t born, they become. Their expression of the belief men and women aren’t different, women are just oppressed into being different than men only got more and more convoluted as the years passed and they refused to cede to biology. But why would they? Science is also patriarchal, apparently. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/04/25 09:16 PM |
| 19 | Is Feminism a right-wing movement?Feminism borrows whatever tools/theories/models it can use to push its own agenda. Whether this is the class based analysis of the left or the traditional values of the right, doesn’t really matter. The axis that matters isn’t left/right, it’s up/down. Feminism is fundamentally authoritarian, (even to women.) | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/04/25 11:46 AM |
| 1 | feminists can't claim feminism is about equality and not also advocate for equality for men.Feminism absolutely can and does advocate for equality. The problem isn’t in its mission statement. Everyone agrees with its mission statement. The problem lies in; 1) how it defines equality, and 2) how it measures equality. Feminism doesn’t have double standards. It is entirely coherent within its own framework. Referring to feminism as though it is somehow falling short of the mark it set for itself is wilfully naive at this point. Feminism is doing exactly what in intends to do, and always h… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/04/25 01:09 PM |
| 3 | My quick look and thoughts about the study ‘I’m a red-blooded male’: Understanding men’s experiences of domestic abuse through a feminist lensIt’s hard to tell whether the authors intentionally mean to further undermine patriarchy theory with this paper (or they have a critical lack of self awareness), but it’s worth pointing out that the man box assertion is highly suspect. Are these attitudes regarding masculinity the true ideals/values of men, or are they feminist attitudes regarding masculinity? Because hyper sexuality, control of women, and rigid gender roles in the home are things I’ve never seen associated with masculinity by m… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/04/25 12:53 AM |
| 5 | My quick look and thoughts about the study ‘I’m a red-blooded male’: Understanding men’s experiences of domestic abuse through a feminist lensIt’s a little weird that you haven’t heard of it before, but also kind of not. It was popularised by Millett in the mid 20th century, and the buzzword is everywhere, but it also forms the bedrock of a bunch of other theories. Now, feminist proponents and adjacent ideologues don’t really need to directly invoke the term “patriarchy” because it is assumed. So a lot of the feminist or feminist adjacent ideological dogmas running around today are throwing around terms like intersectionality (etc). I… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/04/25 12:47 AM |
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