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You're really reaching here, desperate to be offended by something. I think I'm starting to figure out why men aren't interested in dating you. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:55 AM
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Wow. You're seriously calling me a "hoe" now. The fuck. It's a reference to an internet user who calls themselves hoe_math. https://www.youtube.com/@hoe_math
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:52 PM
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You’ve really never even seen a man say that finding a date is trivially easy for any woman? I've seen that one, yeah. And that any woman who isn’t swamped with male attention must be an “obese land whale” or a deformed ugly bitch Nope, haven't seen this one. or lying? Sure, I suppose this is the standard hoe_math talking point that women view men who are 7 and below as "not people" and romantic advances from them don't count. Anyways I think this is fundamentally an app thing. See this video fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:31 PM
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You can make money on both sides by working as both a sex worker and a matchmaker. Start advertising in your reddit profile for single ladies who want recs on guys to meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:23 AM
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But likewise, women get an endless stream of men telling them that if they don’t have dozens of men chasing them, they’re worthless ugly swamp creatures. Or that they’re lying. Never seen it. It’s pretty clear at least some bitter terminally online men want to go way out of their way to be as fucking mean as possible to any woman who isn’t hot. Sure. Is being called worthless for not having tons of sexual attention better for women somehow? I don’t see any logical reason why it would be. If you …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:13 AM
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OK well here's my challenge to you. Tell your client to go on Tinder during your date and watch him swipe. Since according to you, all he has to do is be a little polite and he can easily hook up. Yet he is stuck hiring a sex worker. Something is not adding up here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:55 PM
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My theory is that the men who are willing to pay for time with you are the exact men for whom you are very much their type. Whereas for Tinder it's just guys who are desperate for any sort of hookup. Women want to be desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:45 PM
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Interesting. Seems like your psychology has been shaped a fair amount by being a sex worker in this regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:36 PM
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Just because I want to have sex with you doesn't mean I don't see you as a human. Let me put it this way. Suppose I'm on Tinder looking for a casual sexual encounter. I want to find a woman who is also looking for a casual sexual encounter. What is the correct way to look for a woman who's on the same page as I am? It seems like you've decided in your head that any man who desires casual sex, and quickly makes that clear, must inherently be dehumanizing you or something. I honestly think I am go…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:26 PM
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"Hey you look like fun! I would love for you to swallow my cum tonight! It would be a dream come true for me!" First I think from a guy's perspective this is not a dehumanizing message. I don't find it personally disgusting or disturbing. I'll bet if you opened an account on a gay app you would get a lot of messages like this. Guys are just a lot more interested in casual sex. But anyway, if you feel the message crosses a line, why don't you report it? I'm skeptical that literally 90% of your Ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:13 PM
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And the moment a dude sends the first message on tinder, he has already ruined it for me. They're disgusting. Imagine if I said "the moment a gal sends the first message on tinder, she has already ruined it for me. Women are disgusting." You would certainly call it misogyny. If you experience that type of instinctive revulsion to men, as soon as they send you a single message, I think you have to acknowledge that is an internal issue. I would suggest finding a different profession for the sake o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:58 PM
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I care that you have a pulse. When you gonna fuck me? J/k 🙃 I don't personally buy this based on my observations. I'm willing to believe that dating apps feel full of desperate/nasty seeming guys, but that's because those are the guys who spend the most time on the app shooting their shot with every single girl. Basically a vocal minority of the population. Like, the statement "For every 100 dudes that see me" is almost certainly false if taken literally because most of those guys will just sile…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:45 PM
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I think men experience it differently because they are constantly reaching out for affection and constantly getting rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:59 PM
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It wouldn't make a difference. Women like Lysa_Bell will just assume that she's viewed like a cheeseburger by every man, because that's what the internet told her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:56 PM
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We've really come full circle here. Staying at home with the kids while your husband works to support the family is now the feminist position.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:53 PM
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It's not "another" article, it's the same article (linking directly to the paper which was covered in Quartz). How do you explain the fact that it got published in a prestigious journal? You're trying to second-guess the reviewers while barely even paying attention to what is being said. Your laziness and intellectual dishonesty are yet another data point against female leadership. Let’s say there are 100 men and 1 woman. Let’s say 75 of the 100 men do x action, and the 1 woman also does x actio…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:18 AM
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This paper was published in the Journal of Political Economy, a top journal: https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/707011 I'm doubtful that it would've been published with the sort of basic errors you seem to be claiming (failing to account for the denominator when calculating the rate of aggression). If you truly believe that, take a closer look at the paper, then maybe reach out to the journal editors and try to persuade them that it needs to be retracted. Your original argument wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:29 AM
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I don’t need any but thanks for the offer :) No prob :) Genuinely asking… if men rant about the woes of dating, are they generally looking for advice to better the situation, someone to agree with their stance, or sympathy? I think it depends on the person. I think men are more likely to want advice, but it helps to add a bit of sympathy on the side. The frustrating thing is when you get "anti-sympathy" in the form of unsupported assumptions that your failures with women must mean that you are s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:48 PM
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"Throughout history, queens were more likely to wage war than kings" https://qz.com/967895/throughout-history-women-rulers-were-more-likely-to-wage-war-than-men The data we've collected so far suggests that female leadership is not an effective strategy for achieving world peace or equality. We don't need to have a "comparable number of female leaders as male ones" to falsify your hypothesis. You're falling prey to a well-known bias where women are stereotyped to be better people than men. See h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:43 PM
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Humans can be terrible sometimes regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:37 PM
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The Save Act is a "different context" since it is focused on making it difficult for non-citizens to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:36 PM
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You only make this "different context" argument to excuse statements made by women, never men. You're simply expressing the well-documented ingroup bias which women have for each other. "while both women and men have more favorable views of women, women's in-group biases were 4.5 times stronger than those of men." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:36 PM
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I predict feminists would react poorly if "Repeal the 19th" and Andrew Tate suggestions were defended as jokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:48 AM
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How do you explain brutal female dictators like Samia Suluhu Hassan and Sheikh Hasina?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:46 AM
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Do it. Seriously. I'll give you sympathy too, if you want some. Would you like that? I'm happy to provide sympathy (within reason) if you're struggling to find a man, or if you've had bad experiences with men in the past. I realize this discussion probably feels a little bit quirky or odd. But I'm increasingly convinced that inability to express sympathy is one of the biggest problems with this board. So, I'm stepping up, even if it feels awkward at first, to try and be the change I wish to see …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:30 AM
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That sucks if you're struggling to find the love you desire. There, I gave you sympathy 🫡
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:09 AM
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Of course there’s no obligation to remain friends with someone you want to fuck who doesn’t want to fuck you. In fact, you should not. A lot of women on reddit seem to think they are entitled to a man's continued friendship after they turn him down for sex. I do not believe that there are all these women divorcing their husbands JUST because he’s “not cleaning house to her standard.” There is a lot of feminist chatter about supposed inequality in household chores, due to the fact that men don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 11:36 PM
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A friendship isn’t a romantic relationship. A marriage is a partnership. There's no friendship oath that goes: "for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, till death us do part" Criticizing men on the basis of abandoning female friends who won't fuck them is silly, when women are proudly abandoning actual husbands that they made vows to, because he doesn't want to clean house to her standard. we all know no man is staying with a woman who do…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:00 PM
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Isn't it the standard explanation for the large singleness gap among young people, where some data shows that young men are far more likely to be single than young women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:05 AM
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Seems like a deflection. The generalizations which OP describes are not being specified conditional on particular age gaps. So there's still an inconsistency in the rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:03 AM
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Research suggests that women have a stronger ingroup bias for their gender than men do. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-group_favoritism#Automatic_bias_for_own_gender
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:00 AM
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Women will say: "If you were a truly good friend to her, you wouldn't care if she was interested in you romantically." Then they will dump their husbands on the grounds that he's not doing enough housework. By the same logic: "If you truly loved your husband, you wouldn't care how much housework he was doing."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:58 AM
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This US government report attempted to control for various characteristics like that, and found that the male/female sentencing gap was over twice as large as the black/white one. https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/research-and-publications/research-publications/2023/20231114_Demographic-Differences.pdf See p. 15 in the PDF
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:54 AM
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Education spending has everything to do with outcomes. The issue is where the money goes. Without oversight it often goes to administration or worse, to sports. It needs to go to teacher pay, educational materials, and reducing class sizes. Even if that's true, you should be talking about reallocating funds instead of simply adding more spending which historically always appears to go to waste. The DSA worldview isn't particularly concerned with whether the government works. They are happy to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:02 AM
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If grading is such a problem maybe increase teacher pay so that more men will be interested in teaching. Raise taxes on the rich. Get the resources we need to do this. But we won’t because the department of education is being gutted and they’re looking into AI to replace everything. Why can't women teachers just grade fairly? Feminist will do anything except "have a conversation" about discrimination against men and boys. Education spending has very little relationship to outcomes, it's sort of …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:30 PM
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Imagine reversing the genders here. Suppose a man had sex acts he desired, that his wife did not want to do. Redditor women would explain that it's essential to respect her consent, and not try to force him to do things for her pleasure. But when it's the woman who is unsatisfied, suddenly redditor women demand that the husband do things he doesn't want to do, and he's a disgusting monster if he doesn't do those things. Essentially pressuring him and shaming him into sex he doesn't want to have.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:26 PM
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The majority of men’s problems are economic in nature Are you willing to have a conversation about sexist grading that favors girls over boys? I bet not. Everyone is worse off now because we are in late stage capitalism. Poverty is lower than it was in previous decades: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/poverty-share-on-less-than-30-per-day?tab=line&country=~USA&mapSelect=~USA During the Cold War we had the possibility of nuclear annihilation hanging over our heads. Yet women were happier then.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 02:31 PM
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No, it's because women are eternal victims in their own heads, and they jealously guard that victimization https://preview.redd.it/zyldsavzgt2h1.png?width=472&format=png&auto=webp&s=f24e323e1da149d12e4637ff279240d1fd28d853
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:43 AM
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Men’s issues can be solved by democratic socialism. You're not actually thinking about men's issues. You're not listening to men. You're just taking the political position you already had and rationalizing why it is good for men. It's no different from a conservative saying: "Women need conservatism. Abortion is bad for women's mental health and it needs to be stopped. The best thing for women's happiness is strong male leadership. Women were happier back when they had fewer rights (this stateme…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:39 AM
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If I responded this way to a woman ("if you're afraid of being raped simply stay away from men"), you would call it misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:05 AM
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STDs, unfair child support, bad marriage settlement. It's easy for a woman to completely ruin a man's life. Even false rape accusations are much more common than feminists want to believe: https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/02/17/lies-damned-lies-and-social-media-part-5-of-%E2%88%9E/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 03:58 AM
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Would you mind answering the question of what your gender is and whether you identify as a feminist so I know where you're coming from?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 03:55 AM
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Men also take risks when dating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:52 PM
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Sure, I dug up another source for you, see the screen captures labeled "This poor idiot deleted these pretty quickly." in this post: https://thebarkingyears.substack.com/p/when-it-comes-to-men-the-left-cant Why did he have to delete that stuff? I'm not going to go on a wild goose chase finding more sources, since by definition the Democrat leadership is hesitant to discuss this issue due to its explosive potential among their female constituents. A lot of feminists hear about men's issues and in…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:32 PM
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My question is that how is this caused by feminism? Did you read the blog post? I think the author makes a decent argument. What's your gender btw? Do you consider yourself a feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:05 PM
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I don’t like being treated like I’m incapable of doing anything. Fair enough There is a way of asking if someone needs assistance without taking over and dominating their entire situation. Agreed Do you feel women don’t offer help to you? I don't have much experience being in that type of situation, but I do feel that women are privileged in various ways they don't appreciated, and it's frustrating when they ignore their privileges and insist on complaining about everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:05 AM
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OK, how about next time I see a woman in distress I will be sure to avoid helping out so I don't inflict my help on her. And I'll tell all my fellow men to do the same: If a woman is in distress, be sure not to help. Sound good? Or, you could stop being silly and just admit that it's a privilege for women overall/on net, even if being offered help is occasionally a bit annoying. You don't always have to play the victim. Sometimes you can just feel good about possessing a privilege that men don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:48 AM
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Your flair says you're a woman. Thus you benefit from female privilege. We just discussed a concrete example of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:41 AM
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Why are you trying to avoid answering what I asked you. I just did so. Please read my comment before you reply to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:40 AM
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Well, next time you complain about "the patriarchy" or whatever, and how society is supposedly set up to benefit men, I just want you to keep in mind that women like you are privileged in many ways you're not necessarily aware of. It's no different from male privilege, white privilege, etc. And this provides a vivid illustration: When women are in distress, men will rush to help; when men are in distress, women get the ick and run away.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:38 AM
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Obvious AI response. I think the fact you had to use AI to answer my questions illustrates my point quite nicely. I rest my case. And sure, I'm happy to answer my own qs. I agree with the common feminist talking point that women are victims of more male violence than the reverse. I think we could take steps to improve the experience of women who are victims of rape/sexual assault/etc. That's a woman's issue I am concerned about. Something I like about women is the maternal care they show for chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:35 AM
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The majority of suicide researchers worldwide are women. Not all women are feminists though. If you look at feminists in particular, they are proving incredibly callous to male suicide. See this article: I talked last week to a man who sought help from a mental health service in Dandenong, Victoria. The suicidal man had lost contact with his children despite the Victorian police having charged his partner with two counts of assault against him. I’ve seen the desperate text messages he wrote to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:50 AM
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I think that's probably true in some cases, but in other cases misogyny is a reaction to misandry. Same way misandry can be a reaction to misogyny. It's a misery spiral.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:04 AM
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Lmao so because this racist clown wrote an article that means white men are discriminated against? You're being childish. There is a lot of evidence presented in the article I linked. I don't believe you read it. I will link it again: https://www.compactmag.com/article/the-lost-generation/ It’s bewildering how billionaires have been able to convince so many white men that they’re oppressed because of other poor people just like them getting opportunities and not by the white billionaires who con…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:20 AM
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If young women want to take away my right to a gun, would that justify misogyny?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:02 AM
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There is no example of a democrat who tried to put forth policies with the aim to solely benefit men, who had been convinced not to specially by feminist voters. And I never claimed there was. Quite pretending not to understand what I'm saying. It's childish. Wokeness is a problem and everyone knows it. It’s hard to talk to anybody today — and I talk to lots of people in the Democratic Party — who doesn’t say this. But they don’t want to say it out loud... they’ll get clobbered or canceled. From…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:37 AM
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was Exactly. But not any more. Here is the Amazon page for Second Stage by Betty Friedan: https://www.amazon.com/Second-Stage-Betty-Friedan/dp/0671410342 Its Best Sellers Rank on Amazon is #1,299,897 in Books According to this calculator: https://www.tckpublishing.com/amazon-book-sales-calculator/ A Best Sellers Rank of #1,299,897 corresponds to about 3 sales per month. For reference, there are about 340 million people in this United States. This book simply is not part of our national conversat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:41 AM
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They don't dare, because they know the feminists will flip out, as I said. You're illustrating the principle nicely through your "ludicrous claim" reaction. What caused you to react that way? That's exactly how feminists would react if Democrats were to try and do something for men. "The idea that men are suffering is ludicrous. We need to stop centering men blah blah blah"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:29 AM
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What do you want guys to do? I agree it's rude to speculate on the sexual habits of a girl who posts a video of her dorm room. I don't think it is hateful necessarily, but it is rude and I wish those guys wouldn't do it. Still, what exactly am I supposed to do about it? Am I considered disloyal until I join in the "men suck" chorus, even if I don't think these guys are particularly representative?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:26 AM
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If a woman is still a spinster beyond a certain age, we used to assume there was something wrong with her. (Used to.) The problem is that we've made singlehood empowering for women without making it empowering for men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:13 AM
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Probably different men in each case. Men are not a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:11 AM
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So would this be an example of female privilege then? When women are in distress, men will rush to help; when men are in distress, women get the ick and run away. Sounds like female privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:06 AM
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Poll data shows that young women have a more negative view of young men than the other way around: A Merlin Strategy poll of young Britons aged 18 to 30 found three times more young women than young men held a negative view of the opposite sex. Only about 50% of women had a positive view of men compared to 72% of men feeling positive about women. For women under 25, it was even starker: only around one-third (35%) reported a positive view of men. https://bettinaarndt.substack.com/p/no-wonder-men…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:02 AM
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Who's more likely to read books about feminism? Women who identify as feminists or men who don't? That's beside the point if most people aren't reading them anyways. most feminists do not start out with the worldview that all women are victims and all men are bad. They learn what men are like by being shown it in real life. I would argue this is the type of content which goes viral on social media, but it is not necessarily representative of real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:57 AM
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Let's see some evidence. Presumably you are a feminist. Can you give a counterexample in the form of an area where you believe that women are bad and men are the victims? Can you give any examples of things you like about men? Can you give any examples of a man's issue that you are concerned about? I very rarely see self-described "feminists" on reddit do any of these things. And sure enough, poll data indicates that misandry appears common among the younger generation of women: A Merlin Strateg…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:55 AM
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Why is it that all of your sources were published over 20 years ago? When someone mostly talks about events from over 20 years ago, I view it as an implicit admission that there isn't much supporting evidence for their position in the present day. Insofar as "feminism" is even a coherent concept nowadays, it's become increasingly synonymous with misandry. "Feminism" has become a victim of its own success. With so many concrete policy goals achieved, raging at men is one of the few things which s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:51 AM
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Read this article: https://www.compactmag.com/article/the-lost-generation/ I'm not talking about history, I'm talking about the present. If you're invoking history, to me, that is an implicit admission that your arguments fail when examining the present. And the present is what matters. History can't be changed, and the idea that we need to discriminate against white men now to "even the scales" since they were beneficiaries of discrimination in the past is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:42 AM
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Whenever there is a discussion about men's issues, I generally see feminists show up to explain that we need to stop "centering" men's issues and women's issues are so much worse, essentially making fun of the person who chose to bring up men's issues. Even if feminists vote for progressives, they still steer progressive politicians away from policies which would benefit men. This is a common talking point when discussing the Democrats failure with men in the US. Some in the party leadership wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:39 AM
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Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:11 AM
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Generally speaking for both genders, it is more effective to hold up examples of how awesome the opposite gender can be than it is to scold. I take what I can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:22 AM
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I appreciate you asking this question. I'll admit there is a rhetorical component to my comments in this thread, to give you a sense of what it feels like to read the stuff that some reddit feminists post. (I'm using the phrase "some reddit feminists" very deliberately, because in my experience women IRL are nothing like them.) I notice that when some reddit feminists have a problem, they stop at nothing to get it solved, and call anyone who disagrees with their solutions a misogynist. With that…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:16 AM
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Your flair is very well chosen. Boys shall we build a monument in her honor?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:01 AM
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Why is your user flair blue pill when you are spreading red pill truth 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:57 AM
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Whenever women face a problem: "Men need to do better!" Whenever men face a problem: "Sorry boys, you'll just have to deal with it. It's probably your own fault anyways." Compassionate socialism for women; brutal libertarianism for men. Personal responsibility for men; social responsibility for women. It never fails.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:34 AM

Yep, I nailed it. White feminism. You bemoan women who supposedly have "no other options", yet if a man travels to meet them and give them options, that man is "weird" and "has serious problems". There's nothing coherent about your position. You are motivated by control, not compassion--working to wield shame as a weapon to deprive those supposedly oppressed women of options. I rest my case. I won't be replying to you further in this thread because it's clear to me that you are not engaging in g…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 08:26 AM

Let's check if you are sincere then. Set aside the term "passport bro", because you and I are apparently using it differently. Are you willing to advocate that western men who respect women as people should date abroad more in developing countries, in order to give those women more and better options? (Since you claim that women in developing countries have so few options.) If you're not willing to assent to that statement, I rest my case that this is ultimately about control for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:08 AM

It has been said: "Women are not a monolith." But I say to you: "Passport bros are not a monolith." Just look at OP: he advocates fighting back against misogyny, rebelling against American culture, globalism, promoting multiculturalism, cross-cultural connection, etc. There is nothing about power and control in the OP. I'm afraid that may have been projection on your part. By shaming passport bros like OP, you are directly working to reduce the options of those women who you claim have "no other…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 06:49 AM

This is white feminism which treats women in non-western countries as helpless and incapable of making their own decisions. The fact is that women outside the west can make decisions for themselves. They don't need busybodies telling them who they can and cannot date, or who they "NEED". Her body, her choice. It's incredibly condescending, if not outright racist, to say she has "no other options" if she wants to leave a western man. It fascinates me how certain western women can believe they are…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 06:07 AM
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Lol. I had a sister who transitioned, and the other is a lesbian. My parents were very accepting in both cases despite being quite religious. My family is pretty chill. Ironically none of the kids in the family have gotten married yet, despite our traditionalist upbringing. I don't think there is any particular of fear of marriage there, we are just pursuing our own paths. I'm not claiming any arrangement is universally better, I just think patriarchy has some advantages which are underappreciat…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 03:12 PM
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But you'd expect then to see correlation between men who didn't have sex until marriage and their later success at life, which certainly hasn't been my experience of men. Suppose men vary in an abstract dimension of "competence", and high competence is correlated with both sexual and career success. That means that sexual and career success will therefore be correlated. However if you take a highly competent man and restrict his sexual access, you could still get an even higher level of career s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 04:24 AM
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I'm trying to explain the phenomenon of the "low-effort husband" which you and your friends are observing which is making you less interested in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 04:21 AM

We were horny monkeys, and we tended to optimistically believe that we could talk this stuff through. Here's my theory. A lot of modern men either had an early experience of sexual promiscuity, or observed other men having early experiences of sexual promiscuity. Basically partying and having fun without relationship burdens. At the very least they are watching a lot of porn. So then wait 10 years later, you're now getting married to just one woman who is 10 years older and wants you to do a bun…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 11:55 AM
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Sure, but the women who are against cold approaches didn't take that sort of reasonable approach. They basically said all guys doing cold approaches are evil and the only reason you would do it is in order to harass women. I think women should be policing themselves a little more, and explaining the problem with the hardline anti-cold-approach advocacy, instead of getting upset with men because they listened to it. And same for men btw. If you, as a woman, listen to some stupid idea andrew tate …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 12:57 AM
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Just a few years ago all the feminists were telling us guys to "Listen to women!" Now the new line is "Don't listen to women! Stop giving a shit if you make her mad!" I'm not upset with you, I just wish you would acknowledge that there is a dysfunctional communication dynamic here. You can't put everything on us guys. Us guys are always being told that women are not a monolith, which is of course true, but part of why we acquire that belief is that some women will talk about women as though they…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 03:33 PM
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“Dominant guy in bed” is a meme, that’s practically default in 2025 Do you believe the typical self-flaired "blue pill male" on this subreddit enjoys being dominant in bed?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:33 AM
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Oops. Alrighty, off to destroy my motorbike.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 09:45 AM
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How is that working out for you? Are women into it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 09:30 AM
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Sure, just ignore the terminology and tell me your take on Henry then.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 08:57 AM
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I'm a wild child. You can't control me, woman. I'll put my life into the hands of the street whenever I damn well please 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:50 AM
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Redpillers like to divide the world into "alphas" and "betas". But in reality most guys have a mix of both characteristics. Imagine a fellow named Henry Hybrid who takes this to an extreme. Henry wears a leather jacket, rides a motorcycle, and enjoys boxing as a hobby. He's also sweet, shy, and a serious Lord of the Rings nerd. But then when it comes to the bedroom he likes to be very dominant. If you're a woman, how do you generally feel about this type of guy? Do you want more Henry Hybrids in…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:06 AM
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Eh, that's not how I see the term used though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 06:42 AM
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Reddit has a lot of socially anxious women who are uncomfortable talking to strangers. That's the site culture here. It's not a representative sample of the population. Here's what a different sample population showed: 74% of women aged 25 and below want to be approached more; 77% in the full 18-30 cohort. 68% wish to be approached more between 30-40, while for women 41 and older 45% wish to be approached more. source There are lots of videos on Youtube from women complaining that they aren't ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:00 PM
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I care. If you just keep earbuds in your ears, I won't approach you. That's considered a universal "do not approach" signal as far as I'm concerned. However, I do consider approaching women who make eye contact with me, because women aren't a monolith and there seems to be a fair amount of variation in their preferences around cold approach. Want approaches? Make more eye contact. Want to avoid approaches? Avoid eye contact (you could even wear sunglasses for bonus points I guess), and wear earb…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:50 PM
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There are more single women than single men. I've been in many bars and parties that were 60% dudes or more. Hardly any that were 60% women or more.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:43 PM
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They are failing to recognize that if it were truly only their thoughts that were being judged, no one would be able to punish them for it. It's an astounding failure of social emotional development and I'm not even sure how to help people out of it. I think it's understandable with the reddit crowd. People on this site are very moralistic, and it's common for individuals to be condemned for thinking the wrong thoughts even if they don't act on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:37 PM
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People on reddit think anyone who disagrees with their politics is problematic. News at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:19 PM
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pick-me As a man, why should I avoid a woman who wants me to pick her? Enthusiastic consent is a good thing. The entire "pick-me" discourse seems like a toxic form of female intrasexual competition. If a woman uses the term "pick-me" to describe other women, I take that as a red flag. She's basically announcing to the world that she's a bully who likes to demean other women. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:15 PM
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Now we just need to extend the same courtesy towards men and stop using "incel" as a general-purpose insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 03:43 AM
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Upvoted. However I also don’t believe I’m particularly special or unique. So if I feel a certain way about something, I imagine there are others who feel similar as well, even if it isn’t all or even the majority. Couldn't a man make the same argument? "My ex-gf wasn't particularly special or unique. If she behaved in a certain way, I imagine other women would do the same, even if it isn't all or even the majority." Yet I expect he would be accused of "generalizing about women."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:05 AM
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My claim is that the statement Women are very caring, just look at how we care for children! obviously does not imply the statement you're saying men are like children If you wish to separately claim that men are like children, go ahead. But I myself think it's rather childish of you to change the subject that way :-) I'm trying to play the parental role of teaching you to dissect an argument logically here. And btw, my dad was very trad and also a very involved parent. I couldn't have asked for…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 10:26 AM
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She's 17. Probably didn't have much experience with guys yet. You asked her out, she probably said "sure" because she didn't know what she was doing, even though she felt very little attraction. Don't take it personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 06:52 AM
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I think you're implicitly ascribing a position to BaldieMonkey that they might not actually hold (and I haven't seen them explicitly endorse): namely, that "misogyny" is justified on the basis of believing negative factual claims about women. Of course, a lot of women make accusations of "misogyny" in response to mere negative factual claims about their behavior, which complicates the issue. (Interestingly, a lot of women also claim that stating negative factual claims about male behavior is not…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 06:42 AM
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Both are resources. A man’s care, as you admit here, is equitable with the care of an investment in livestock. This is a ridiculous misinterpretation. These bad-faith distortions do everyone a disservice. "Women are very caring, just look at how we care for children!" "Oh, so you're saying men are like children, huh?"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 06:25 AM
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It says all we need to know about you that you think treating women as equal human beings is something we should thank you for. I'm a big believer in erring on the side of thanking people more. If you simply state "men should be treated as equal human beings" in response to this comment, I will say thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 06:10 AM
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True, but people often exacerbate this issue by speaking for themselves as though they speak for their entire group. You'll see women saying things like "obviously women hate it when men do X, you idiot" when really they are just stating their own preference. It's kind of ironic -- us guys get accused of treating women like a monolith, but I actually notice women treating women like a monolith more frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 06:03 AM
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That's a great point. However, that still brings up the question of why users who believe "age gap relationships are common and normal" don't tend to chime in on the "Do women like older men?" threads, and users who believe "age gap relationships are creepy and abnormal" don't tend to chime in on the "singleness gap" threads. The cynical answer is that the thing which unites both groups is misandry. The important thing is to be able to dunk on men. Having a coherent worldview is a lower priority…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 06:02 AM
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I think women could be a lot more empathetic toward men. Thank you for saying this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 05:55 AM
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Or maybe we should take it personally? If you're fearing for your safety when I'm around, I should at least be cognizant of that, eh? Like, I thought I'm supposed to respect your need for safety by leaving you alone if I sense you're not feeling the interaction. Genuinely interested to hear your thoughts on how to navigate this. The other day, a woman was making heavy eyes at me in public, so I asked if I could sit down next to her and started a convo. I remember she was smiling a little bit, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 04:58 AM
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When I say men do it I don’t mean “all men do it”. I mean that it’s a behavior and thought pattern I have only ever seen in men. Fair enough. I think you probably could've been more clear if that was your meaning. And I’m bisexual so I have had plenty of chances to encounter it in women. Yet I haven’t. I would argue that as a bisexual, you're sleeping with WLW who aren't representative of women in general. A woman who is a repressed, judgmental prude is probably also straight. That said, yeah I …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 09:26 PM
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One thing to keep in mind when accusing either gender of hypocrisy is there tend to be varied perspectives on each side. Women aren't a monolith, and men aren't either. Sometimes the apparent hypocrisy is actually 2 subgroups within a particular gender who disagree with one another. That's still annoying though, because it'd be ideal if those subgroups resolved their disagreements internally before trying to give the other gender a lecture. It's frustrating when some people of Gender A tell Gend…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 09:16 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that you're being mistreated this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 07:49 PM
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they are so normalized that you don't even realize them I mean, I made a list in another comment: "too old, too overweight, insufficiently feminine, too feminist, you're a single mom, you've slept with too many guys, etc." So yeah I think I do realize them. ohh youuw poor victims of heightism. I don't consider myself a victim of heightism, but I'm able to empathize with victims of heightism. I'm able to empathize with the issues women face as well. That's why I've repeatedly emphasized them in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 05:07 PM
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Not necessarily. Have you seen the posts on /r/shortguys? Here are some I quickly dug up: https://np.reddit.com/r/shortguys/comments/14kl8bk/sadly_true/ https://np.reddit.com/r/shortguys/comments/156pr2x/a_guide_to_understanding_male_personality_traits/ https://np.reddit.com/r/shortguys/comments/162rvzk/facts/ https://np.reddit.com/r/shortguys/comments/1ded77d/the_difference_is_actually_astounding/ https://np.reddit.com/r/shortguys/comments/128eyir/cope_station_vs_humblebrag_nation/ https://np.r…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 12:45 PM
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Success standards are much harsher for men. Shouldn't OP's argument apply either way? Why would beauty vs success make a difference? I'm just trying to get you to emphathize here. If you understand that harsh standards for women can sometimes be harmful, why can't harsh standards for men sometimes be harmful?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 12:36 PM
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Him: "Interracial relationships should be OK!" You: "Why do you think that the only people you will have anything in common with are people with a different skin color? That's weird." There's just no end of the bad faith on this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:51 PM
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it’s not okay for you to expect them to lower those standards to fit you A lot of women complaining about beauty standards strikes me as exactly that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:42 AM
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If a man rejects me on the basis of my appearance, he is missing out. Or maybe he has legitimate, high standards that you simply failed to meet. And that shouldn't be a problem, per your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:37 AM
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Sure it hurts but it’s not going to make me hate men. Those were shallow men not worth my time. If it's not going to make you hate them, why are you lashing out and calling the guys who rejected you "shallow" and "not worth your time"? Sounds like sour grapes to me. People aren't so different, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:33 AM
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OK, well, don't start complaining when you find men rejecting you for marriage because you're too old, too overweight, insufficiently feminine, too feminist, you're a single mom, you've slept with too many guys, etc. And be sure to correct any other woman you hear complaining when she gets rejected on those grounds. "Men having high standards shouldn't be a problem."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:17 AM
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Do you think male Instagram celebrities are a fair standard for a man to compare himself to? A common complaint from men nowadays is that women consider those guys attainable when they really aren't. Your post title says: "Women having high standards shouldn't be a problem". What if guys like me say: "I want a thin blonde bikini model with big boobs"? Men having high standards shouldn't be a problem either? And yet now you say: "Those are not fair standards to have to compare yourself to." Which…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:11 AM
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I don’t understand why men are attacking women for having “unrealistic standards”. If women truly had unrealistic standards, they would all end up alone. Why is it that women complain about "unrealistic beauty standards" then? Wouldn't your argument apply just as well to men who only want a thin blonde bikini model with big boobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:56 AM

You're responding to a comment in your head, not the comment which was written.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:53 AM
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What was she doing, if anything, to meet guys? How would you recommend men go about meeting someone like your friend? (Women who really want to meet men)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:41 AM
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Using Tinder is a choice. If you're going to complain about using Tinder, that's not being vulnerable. You're being willfully obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:37 AM
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dating woes caused by your own choices Have you seen /r/TinderData ? Would you tell this user that their woes are caused by their own choices? https://np.reddit.com/r/TinderData/comments/1fkw9es/data_for_26_year_old_canadian/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 05:40 AM
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Yes, whining about something someone can easily fix themselves is a turn-off. That's quite an assumption. "Whenever I download an app, I'm flooded with matches. These guys must just be too lazy to download an app!" Once again, sexy =/= turned on. Weird assumptions. I don't think this distinction is meaningful or relevant for our discussion. You haven't explained why it is. You seem to be acting pedantic for its own sake. Complaining = whining. Complaining isn't vulnerability. The key point I'm t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 11:11 PM
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Not sure why I even bother
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 11:08 PM
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Exactly. I was stressed about things at work, but I kept it to myself. My girl, who sees me every day, picked up that I was stressed and wanted to talk about it, and it took me a bit to open up about it, but we both talked through it and I ended up feeling better and so did she. That’s what being vulnerable means. I don't think this example demonstrates very much. You initially took a stoic attitude, and only opened up after a while, when your girl specifically requested to talk about it. If tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 06:28 AM
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To be clear, Webster Dictionary had that definition. I assumed you quoted it because it you felt like it would help explain what turns you on. That's never happened. So if this sub is any indication, over 99% of the time when single men open up about their issues, it comes across as bad "whining", rather than good "vulnerability". Can you see how guys might interpret this entire situation as a bait-and-switch? We're told that we need to open up about our feelings more, yet 99% of the time, it tu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 06:11 AM
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Women are not a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 03:51 AM
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What I'm starting to conclude from this discussion is that women should stop giving guys generic advice like "be emotionally vulnerable". Because that's too vague / underspecified. Instead of using all this terminology like "trauma dumping", "whining", "resilience", etc. etc. just give us a lot of concrete examples of what you do and don't like. Here's a challenge for you or any other woman reading this comment. You define vulnerability as "capable of being physically or emotionally wounded". Ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 03:25 AM
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Save that kind of shit until you’ve actually been with a person for awhile and they’re actually invested in you. Sure, but then that means if they reject you after you show vulnerability, that hurts even more, because you have become invested in them. So I don't know if there's any way to win here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 03:14 AM
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Address why they feel the “ick” or whatever when men show genuine emotions, instead of blaming them, then this wont be as much of a problem. Isn't the "ick" often an involuntary response though? Can a person really talk their way out of feeling the "ick"? Like, if you have a method by which I can talk myself into being a chubby chaser who loves cougars, by all means please share. I think we just have to acknowledge that gender roles are partially biological, and compassionately accommodate that …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 03:12 AM
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BTW part of what's going on here is: assume there are two populations of women. Some like vulnerability, some dislike it. But it's impossible to tell what sort of person a woman is in advance. Especially because women are often mistaken about their preferences. So now there are two kinds of mistakes you can make: Mistake 1: Show vulnerability to a woman who doesn't like it Mistake 2: Don't show vulnerability to a woman who does like it Generally, Mistake 1 is far more costly. Because you're talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 02:04 AM
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Based constructive contribution
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 01:59 AM
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Feminists are not a monolith 😂 Note use of the word "sometimes"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 01:58 AM
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Well sure, your disclaimer basically contradicts the body of your post. You say: "I get the sense that men don't believe it for me some reason." But you also say: "I'm not using this video as evidence of anything." If you yourself don't believe the video, and you're not using it as evidence of anything, why would you expect a man to use the video as evidence of anything? Just admit that /u/Windmill_flowers is her own special flower with her own preferences distinct from all the other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 01:57 AM
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Women have been saying this over and over, but I get the sense that men don't believe it for me some reason. Women are not a monolith. True, a few women on the internet might be "saying this over and over". That doesn't mean it is true for all women. Ironically, women are the first to point out when men inaccurately portray women as a monolith. Yet they also sometimes assume that their own preferences monolithically apply to other women. Consider women who say: "I'm tired of emotional labor. I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 08:30 AM
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Internalized misogyny, woo
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 02:18 AM
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Sounds like you're basically supporting the patriarchy. I thought we were smashing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 01:26 AM
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I don't remember, sorry. I think maybe I did a reverse image search and found sites that included the chart but cited really specious sources. It would be good to find the oldest instance of the chart online. For all we know, Bedbible actually got it from someplace else, and it's been floating around for years. That could explain why the chart doesn't agree with Bedbible's own survey data. Dunno if there's a good way to do a search for the oldest instance though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:19 PM
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We theorize on this sub all the time on “empirical data” less directionally verifiable than the ones in this OP. I guess, but in principle people should know that anecdotes are just anecdotes. In my opinion self-selection makes internet discussion of gender issues fairly worthless. Same way a newspaper is more likely to cover "man bites dog" than "dog bites man", a ton of gender controversy is just artifacts of self-selection. E.g. men are more likely to remark on/complain about a woman who like…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:17 PM
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Assuming the numbers are directionally accurate, I expect the #1 factor behind these numbers is just the country's sex ratio and overall population structure. India and South Korea both have a history of sex-selective abortion. You also have to consider factors such as the gender ratio of migrants to a country, which depends on the country's immigrant policy, and which of those immigrants tend to end up on Tinder. A small change in the sex ratio can translate into a large change in the singles r…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:02 AM
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Thanks. I'm still skeptical though, they only say they surveyed people in the US. Also the numbers from their survey don't match the numbers in their data visual, which seems potentially odd. (M/F ratio for US in the survey is 2.36, for the visual it's 1.91.) They write "apart from collecting records on user data and demographics from Tinder", but as I stated elsewhere in this thread, I doubt Tinder is sharing that data with a random site such as bedbible.com. Maybe they're being vague because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:39 AM
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"Women don’t really notice most men" but also "men are scary, women have to constantly be on their guard for them". There seems to be some disagreement on this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:03 PM
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Hm. Tinder isn’t seen as a “hook up app” by most women, no matter how men might view it. Even if the infographic numbers are solid -- which I doubt -- you could just be looking at the degree to which Tinder is perceived as a hookup app in various different countries. For all we know, maybe it's considered more of a serious relationship app in Europe -- but Korean women know that guys on Tinder only want hookups, so they don't use Tinder as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 12:18 PM
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I think the numbers are bogus. I looked for a source and I couldn't find one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 12:16 PM
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Probably because the data is bogus. There's no source.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 12:15 PM
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Interesting that in South Korea, the widening gap is more caused by men, whereas in the other graphs it's more caused by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 12:13 PM
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I've been searching for the source of these statistics. I can't find any good source. I think there's a pretty good chance they are bogus. There's no reason for Tinder to release this sort of internal proprietary data, and I don't think there is a good way for outsiders to estimate these numbers. Happy to change my mind if someone can find a really solid source.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 05:16 AM
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It seems like you're mostly arguing with someone in your head, not me. You aren't describing my position accurately -- not even a little bit -- and you don't seem to be trying to understand it. Have a nice day!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:08 AM
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Surprisingly pleasant chat, given the subreddit :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:57 AM
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Human males are, on average, more invested in their children than other primate males, but less invested in their children than human females. So, given that human males are less invested than human females -- if human females sometimes want an abortion, it makes sense that human males will sometimes want an abortion. Personally, I'm not super invested in a man's right to abandon a baby. But I hate self-righteous hypocrisy. And if a woman complains endlessly about "gender inequality", and compla…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:43 AM
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I think requiring child support is reasonable in certain circumstances, but the system needs reform in the US. There are some women who abuse the child support system -- for example, predatory women who screw rich guys and demand a bribe for agreeing to abort the baby. See the "Child Support Profits Without a Child" section in the page I linked. (Side note: I recommend reading that entire article, and really that entire website, if you want to understand what guys are upset about -- e.g. note th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:23 AM
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Men care about kids. Our tax dollars go to pay for public education, child protective services, and so on. The difference is that humans have intensive child-rearing practices which are unusual for other primates. See this article: Why “Fatherhood” Is Unique To Humans Among The Primates. Humanity's intensive fatherhood practices are exactly why human males care whether they are the father or not. Investing a lot of resources in someone else's kid is not advantageous from an evolutionary point of…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:50 AM
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I would argue just the opposite. Everything is sacred or valuable to someone, that's why you see people argue so passionately online
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 07:03 AM
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You are absolutely off your rocker if you think the women making these videos care about anything but views and likes. Reddit is no different, everyone's here to accumulate upvotes and avoid downvotes. Everyone pretends that social media is some sort of window into human nature and in reality it is a very distorted window.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 06:56 AM
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