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Post starts with "TRP is nonsense" and the proceeds to agree with everything TRP states.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/20 09:16 AM
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If I pulled out all of my investments, I could buy somewhere between 5-10 brand new Ferraris, depending on the model and custom options etc.
/r/TheRedPill30/12/19 06:01 PM
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Metaphors are often more powerful when it comes to helping others understand and take action. I'm sorry that you don't understand the post. To quote the top comment in the recent finance thread: "Sad how this sub focus 90% on the easiest topic on earth that is women, and 9% on fitness, while ignoring the utmost important factor that determines your real wellbeing - finances and career." Really, TRP and everything I mention in my post are connected in various ways. Even if the primary focus of TR…
/r/TheRedPill30/12/19 05:58 PM
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Exactly. Can completely relate. I always end up bailing on everyone completely, unless there is some kind of connection with someone. Even looks alone doesn't cut it. Its too much stress and effort, which all detracts from the rest of my life.
/r/TheRedPill19/11/19 10:12 AM
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Hunting/growing my food wastes my time and doesn't give any better results. Come on. Use your brain.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/19 01:06 PM
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I agree with you about not wanting to be a thirsty PUA. I think its important to find some kind of middle ground. For instance, when you do see a hot girl when you're going about your daily life, walk up to her and talk to her. It doesn't mean you have to go out especially to "day game" (cringe). One of my friends walked into a restaurant to talk to a girl who was sat alone at a table. Nobody does that. And yet here they are now married. Marriage aside (we know it is a BP goal): the point is tha…
/r/TheRedPill18/11/19 01:01 PM
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Somehow you managed to miss the point. It's not about Tinder. It's about going and getting what you want the hard way. Regardless of how attractive you are, real life will always be more enjoyable, develop you, and give better results.
/r/TheRedPill17/11/19 06:21 PM
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Agree and great way to put it. Attraction, interest and enjoyment is naturally higher on both sides. Helped a lot by the tension created. IRL meetings are often something that you cannot replicate. Each one is unique and has a story. I don't mean it in some gay romantic way. I mean that it is naturally more interesting and more valuable.
/r/TheRedPill17/11/19 06:14 PM
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If you're getting easy hot matches who want to come bang you, absolutely, go for it. But like I stated, it is unrealistic for 95% of dudes. Even for the 5% (or rather 1%) it gets boring quite fast.
/r/TheRedPill17/11/19 03:20 PM
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Indeed. But it is important to understand the problem on at deeper level. Hot girls may well go on Tinder with good intentions, i.e. to meet someone, but... conversing with so many people and meeting someone is 1) unnatural, 2) mundane/"unromantic", and 3) a lot of effort. Not to mention the analysis paralysis caused by the question of who to meet. And really for what purpose when she could just go outside, talk to people, and know what she's getting? I understand this because I have experienced…
/r/TheRedPill17/11/19 03:15 PM
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See "disclaimer for those who think in binary".
/r/TheRedPill17/11/19 03:06 PM
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Here, I will spell it out to you. If I am approaching girls I am outcome independent. If I meet girls organically I am also outcome independent. The latter, however, is much more powerful. This is what my post and my replies are describing. "It just happened" = how it is perceived from the girls POV. Not mine. It sounds like English isn't your first language (genuine observation, not intended as an insult), so it's understandable if you didn't get it.
/r/TheRedPill18/09/19 02:02 PM
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If that is what you think then I don't think you understand either. OI is certainly an aspect of what I describe, but not the main one. OI is a very basic TRP concept that has been covered numerous times before.
/r/TheRedPill18/09/19 09:23 AM
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Not really. Of course it helps but it's outside the scope of this topic.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/19 10:03 PM
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Simple answer: become very good at things. Improve yourself. Then people will notice without you even trying. And you won't care as much anyway. You have to put the work in. No amount of reading can substitute getting shit done.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/19 02:39 PM
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Yep I totally understand what you mean, and thanks for the kind words. I am trying NoFap again. I've shunned it in the past because 1) it is not clear what the benefits are when I already avoid porn and I already get sex. And 2) I find myself extremely distracted to the point of not getting things done when I'm on it. So far it is... again, distracting, but I have to say I'm feeling good. And I felt a little off on a day where I did it 3 times. I don't know if its just coincidence or placebo. In…
/r/TheRedPill16/09/19 08:30 PM
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Awesome post, thanks for mentioning it. Never thought about it that way. Not just the mystery, but writing something short and quick on a receipt and just leaving = busy guy who doesn't really care about the outcome.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/19 05:35 PM
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I like it. Short, direct and commanding, maintaining frame as much as possible. Beats hanging around waiting for her to walk past and starting the interaction again, or interrupting her doing something else with colleagues and customers around. Or asking her with 3 of your friends or even your parents staring at her... I find this sub can sometimes lead me to binary thought. E.g. "don't ever give her your number, only ever ask for hers first". Really things are more complicated and subjective.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/19 02:58 PM
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It's nice to know these things do happen. I suppose that even if it was a man being served by a woman, him writing his phone number down is still better than taking 0 action. Even if manning up and asking her is better, it is not always possible to smoothly do so in this kind of environment. Maybe I should keep a pen with me 🤔
/r/TheRedPill16/09/19 01:16 PM
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Good read, well done. All of the social proof and female wing-man gave you a good head-start. That's really the most difficult part. It's hard to start things off with a new woman without chasing / falling into her frame, especially if you're solo.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/19 08:18 AM
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There aren't really any examples to give for the initial conversation - just talk to them as if you're just going about your daily life. Casual remarks on surroundings / regarding current situation are a good one for people you aren't currently engaged with. Let's say for example... in a clothes store say "I've never worn this colour before... do you think it suits me?" to passing assistant or even lone female customer. Your delivery matters more than your words. If you confidently exclaim "I th…
/r/TheRedPill16/09/19 07:44 AM
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Thank you and good job on your progress. I feel you with your flower story... its not the rejection that would bother me, its more putting the girl under pressure in her work environment that I find awkward. Suggestions... live in a city, or drive to the city/town every day. Go and work/chill in coffee shops. Go to restaurants on your own. Wander round shops and try to talk and engage with people. Honestly I should take my own advice and do more, but to some extent I don't want to waste too much…
/r/TheRedPill15/09/19 11:29 PM
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You don't get it. I'm not saying be passive and do nothing for the entirety of the interaction as if she's a dude. You are being too binary. I'm saying keep things natural initially - especially when it comes to the words you're saying. Different body language will likely begin as things build between you. Even if you're just talking about burgers. Then you're free to take the conversation wherever you want. But even then, it's still mostly about undertones and vibes. You could literally talk ab…
/r/TheRedPill15/09/19 09:21 PM
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Times are bad in the west and I am more aware of that than most, but beware of the anger phase / black pill. There are still some good ones (like this girl today... I know, I was surprised too). Or you can look to other cultures.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/19 08:29 PM
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I don't think you get it. Example: My only agenda = I want a burger. Many people work there. My waitress just happens to be quite attractive. I just talk to her like a normal person with 0 effort. I already have a hot gf anyway. I sense the m/f polarity and the undertones of attraction rising but I'm literally just talking about coleslaw. Suddenly I want her, she wants me. it just happened. Ofc lots of people go around looking for it too but that is not what my post is describing.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/19 08:27 PM
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Thank you. I should have mentioned that self-improvement is pretty much a prerequisite to this. It feels like a cliché mentioning it every time in TRP, but lifting will help you get there probably more than anything else. Lift, be calm and confident.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/19 07:54 PM
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I appreciate your words, and we sound very similar funnily enough. A masculine look and presence but with a calm and focused demeanour is what works for me. Voice is a big thing too. Yeah, online is devoid of any emotions, and you're lined up to be compared against 1000s other people. In person there is no such frame of reference - only the man stood in front of her. Using voice messages is a game-changer (immediate elevation of frame, and you become a human being) but its difficult to get to th…
/r/TheRedPill15/09/19 07:51 PM
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Really great post. It's simple but difficult to actually do. Kind of like cutting body fat. I think you could have made the post even better by relating it to "flow-state". Generally, once you're in flow state, things become effortless and much more comfortable. So just switching off and jumping in initially is the best way to get there. Can be applied to anything. Work. Study. Being social. Even just general anxiety. Put your brain on pause and just go outside. Then the cylinders gradually begi…
/r/TheRedPill24/07/19 02:43 PM
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To this example, one could also apply the general rule of "do things for your future self, rather than just for your current self". It's more comfortable to think about women have in the present (and the past). It's uncomfortable to wonder if they'll still keep us happy in 3/5/10 years. Wonder what the future truly holds. We dread the discomfort that we will inevitably have to endure, drifting along in a passive state of comfort. And before we even know it, a large part of our life is behind us.…
/r/TheRedPill20/07/19 05:11 PM
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I agree. It implies far too much conscious thought and effort, which in itself is not the behaviour of a man with a meaningful life and mission. But perhaps this is a useful concept for men who are new to TRP. I know I went through this phase years ago before reaching my current state. I would describe the next state, kind of like you have, as dating here and there, whilst focusing on your mission, and knowing you can get high quality women when you want to, without having to "spin multiple plat…
/r/TheRedPill19/07/19 08:03 PM
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I would say his advice is good, but lower SMV guys first need to focus on improving their SMV. "Working on game" is a shallow, unsustainable solution which only improves a single area of your life.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/19 11:38 AM
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You're a good writer. Good job. It's about striking the middle ground between disinterest and escalation. Too much disinterest = passive vibes. Too much interest = needy vibes.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/19 11:31 AM
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I could not care less about up-votes or being funny on Reddit. My comment was genuinely intended as information: looking to cultures outside of the west has brought me tremendous meaning in life. Talking about all the HB9s in the UK, to me, is like denying reality. Someone needs to snap them out of it.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/19 10:35 PM
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Hot women showing interest / trying to progress things with you, but you've got enough of that going on already, don't really care, and just want to work on X project instead.
/r/askTRP16/07/19 10:22 PM
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Staying cool and indifferent and just saying "I don't want drama, I don't mean to cause upset" works amazingly well in my experience.
/r/askTRP16/07/19 10:19 PM
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Find the correct balance between seeing her and spending time doing your own thing. If I ate a burger every time I wanted one, I'd be obese. Treat sex the same way. Moderation is a good thing for you, especially in the long-term. And in all seriousness, don't be ashamed to crack one out instead if you need to focus on other things.
/r/askTRP16/07/19 10:17 PM
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Life hack for you: women subconsciously like it when you have other options, even if they may never say this consciously. This creates a win/win situation for you. But be very careful. Do not be too overt with it. You must find the correct balance. Have good interactions with other women whilst she's with you, for instance.
/r/askTRP16/07/19 10:13 PM
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If you genuinely aren't bothered already then I won't state the obvious advice. Instead I'm going to say... be more selective with who you spend your time with in general. You are a high value man who wants to spend his time elsewhere working on his goals. Even 1 woman takes up your time. Let alone dealing with multiple / flakey women in addition to this.
/r/askTRP16/07/19 10:10 PM
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Once you start elevating to a level above your friends, you will slowly drift apart. Even if you make an effort to stop it. Even if you do everything right and continue to be a good friend. They will never be at peace with you being better, and its likely you'll start wanting to talk about different interests etc. It's a sad reality of life. Don't fight it. Find new people to spend time with if necessary.
/r/askTRP16/07/19 10:05 PM
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You aren't getting it. BTW I'm not trying to criticize you - I'm genuinely trying to help guys understand. ​ - In short, it's about vibes and undertones. It doesn't so much matter what you say. - Vibes and undertones cannot be communicated via Instagram. Pixels on a screen are completely absent of this, even if combined with pictures/videos. - Any fool can type comments to a girl on Instagram. ​ Going out of my way to approach girls is not what taught me this. In my own personal experience, I si…
/r/TheRedPill16/07/19 09:48 PM
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Absolutely. People are criticizing your "opener" and saying they turned it off after 30 seconds. I turned it off after 30 seconds because I knew you'd already succeeded. What you said in the following 30 minutes doesn't really matter. ​ In short, it's about undertones and vibes. Not the words said. ​ And yeah... keep it simple. I've always felt the aggressive style is too try-hard. Calm, stoic and intriguing is the way.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/19 09:19 PM
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Focusing on bettering yourself is one of the cornerstones of RedPill philosophy. "Learning game" is just one small part, which is often perceived to be path of least resistance to getting women. Not only is it unsustainable, but the end goal alone will not bring you happiness. Take my advice or not, I don't care. Both you and the poster I replied to sound angry, though. Just an observation.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/19 12:59 PM
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He's stating intent and being honest. You're overthinking. The "PUA" school of thought is for losers. Just be attractive, honest, and keep it simple. Most of it is about undertones and vibe than actual words. Become attractive and you'll understand.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/19 11:41 AM
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I usually cringe watching day game videos. But didn't when watching this. That's how I know it's a good example. Be confident and sure about what you're doing. The moment you feel weird and awkward is when she will also feel weird and awkward. In this case you not only stated your intent, but did so in a way that shows it's not out of the ordinary for you, and that you don't care what the outcome is. Low calm voice tonality. Speak slowly. Let her speak. Control the conversation. Don't be afraid …
/r/TheRedPill16/07/19 09:17 AM
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This is a really good post, and indeed I think people need to already be well versed in TRP to understand this. I can think of some of my own experiences where it applies. A point I'll add: in some situations, being confrontational and breaking explicit rules can a way to establish power or gains with people (particularly women). It shows you DGAF. As an example, a response to your mate guarding example could be to calmly (whilst maintaining frame, eye contact and a grin) say: "X, I know my gf i…
/r/TheRedPill03/05/19 06:08 PM
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For me personally, not only does it get the blood flowing, wake me up and make me feel more alert, but it makes me hurry the fuck up and not procrastinate in there. 2 minutes and out. Done. So that's productivity immediately upon waking. Plus there are definitely general mental benefits for me. You feel buzzed and you feel like you've already accomplished something. Regarding your examples: throwing money away is idiotic and a disadvantage to yourself. I don't see what the negative to cold showe…
/r/TheRedPill24/03/19 08:48 PM
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Yeah I totally agree, but it was a Monday night! Also drinking 5 pints of beer and shuffling around in a big hall in hope of finding a woman does not seem like genuine enjoyment to me.
/r/TheRedPill18/03/19 05:42 PM
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I've experimented with NoFap on and off. Generally, I try to find a good balance between a) self improvement and b) seeing women. NoFap leaves me too horny and too distracted. It shifts the balance too much towards seeing women and generally thinking about women. I feel my goals slipping and my SMV taking a hit. So my personal rule is fap if I need to, but avoid porn.
/r/TheRedPill18/03/19 01:45 AM
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Yep. If you are truly operating outside of the matrix, girls are very good at noticing that there's something different about you. It may require some physical building up too, but it's a wonderful feeling when you have it happening regularly.
/r/TheRedPill18/03/19 01:26 AM
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Very true. I remember working in a German beer house in my city during the day and staying later than intended. The place gradually turns from chilled lunch venue to full on party in the evening. I was sat there on my laptop thinking "I'm here making money whilst all of these people are losing money by throwing it all away on bullshit".
/r/TheRedPill18/03/19 01:14 AM
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I was thinking of making a Paddy's day post. More based on the overall degeneracy I saw in my city. There I was at 10pm walking home from dinner with my girl. Against the flow of people coming into the centre. If you're going out to genuinely have fun with your friends, no problem. But almost everyone I saw (often couples) looked like lifeless zombies, unsure why they're doing what they're doing, other than for the sake of following the herd, posting on Instagram, and forgetting their problems f…
/r/TheRedPill18/03/19 01:10 AM
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Slightly off topic but the "smartphone zombie" vibe that these images are depicting is making it even more depressing. Look at them. Slaves to their devices and the outside world.
/r/MGTOW17/03/19 07:44 PM
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You're disagreeing in paragraph 1, quoting something I didn't say in paragraph 2, and then agreeing in paragraph 3? Did you read my comment or did you just pick a random paragraph, ignoring the context set by the others?
/r/TheRedPill17/03/19 07:39 PM
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A good way to put it, with a good (and comical) analogy.
/r/TheRedPill15/03/19 01:11 AM
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Cringe is the correct word.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/19 12:41 PM
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True. But it does not need to be quite so black and white. I am rock solid in the face of difficult situations and very unemotional, but occasionally "happy cry" over music (especially live orchestra) and particularly powerful films (ones with greater meaning rather than some bullshit drama). I also once teared up a little over a GF crying over leaving me at the airport. I think it was due to guilt/compassion after essentially making her cry by leaving. No negative reaction to these, and can't s…
/r/TheRedPill14/03/19 12:38 PM
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I remember discovering 21Con and watching the trailer ("PATRIARCH EDITION"!!!!1) and immediately rejecting it at a subconscious level. If I were asked to describe it at a conscious level, I would say something along the lines of: Beardy guy with stupid hat tries really hard to look cool and masculine. Pays men with genuine substance to come and assist. Wants you to give him money, presumably to spent the weekend swaggering around a convention centre, talking with as deep a voice a possible, bein…
/r/TheRedPill14/03/19 12:27 PM
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My comments are to try and help men improve their lives by getting into the correct mindset (i.e. being positive, productive, pragmatic, and recognising when they are in "ego guarding mode"). I am entirely self made so the people you speak of are not really related to me.
/r/MGTOW02/03/19 10:25 PM
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You're inventing things which appeal to your ego. This doesn't actually happen that often in the real world.
/r/MGTOW02/03/19 07:50 PM
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Who cares. Focus on your own life and stop whinging. Some people get lucky. That's life. But I assure you that most high positions are earned.
/r/MGTOW02/03/19 07:40 PM
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I'm noticing a pattern in this sub. Complaining + mental masturbation = upvote. Control what you can control. Become a valuable employee. It is not in the interests of a boss to just let people leave. Replacing people and recruitment is extremely costly.
/r/MGTOW02/03/19 07:39 PM
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Sorry but as a business owner myself, and someone who was once on the other side of the fence, all I see is bitterness here. Owning a business is not easy. It is not as simple as you think. Try it, instead of whinging. You will then understand why your labour for a fixed price is a fair trade for both sides. Theres absolutely nothing wrong with having a normal job, and chasing material possessions does not make you happy.
/r/MGTOW02/03/19 03:48 PM
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An excellent post. This is the best kind of TRP content. Like you I have experienced a lot of these signs from women first hand. Some notable examples would be: - Instant, overt displays of attraction upon discovering my status within a certain environment (owner of small cocktail bar keeping a low profile). Also amusing how they pretend to not know. - Instant, overt displays of attraction when anywhere with a hot enough girl (try walking around anywhere in the west with a 9/10 Eastern European …
/r/TheRedPill28/02/19 10:55 PM
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Referring to my original comment: medium length monogonous connections (plural). I.e. knowing that it will come to an end but bring chilled about it, enjoying the ride whilst it lasts. I.e. not being some love sick fool who behaves irrationally, whilst just getting on and enjoying your life. There are some things (besides sex) that you can't have with Male friends. But the main point here is that you're happy and not wasting your life constantly chasing women. I respect the guy, but Roosh is a g…
/r/TheRedPill28/02/19 07:46 PM
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I feel you but unfortunately I can't see it happening. Trying to unplug people just angers them. And there are too many forces in motion. So changing what you can for yourself is the only option. In the west, being an 8 and dating a 7 is probably the best bet for happiness and progression. There are not many truly masculine, confident men here, so it's not that difficult. If you're like me and truly can't stand it here, look elsewhere. Many cultures are insular enough and have strong leaders, sl…
/r/TheRedPill28/02/19 07:40 PM
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Yeah I completely agree with this. Of course there are many other factors. Smartphones, social media and dating apps are: - reducing people's social skills generally - enabling hypergamy - creating too much choice (and therefore indecision) - highlighting successes of the top 5% and broadcasting them to the bottom 95%, making them feel inferior I could go on... but because this is TRP, let's be solution oriented. My solution was to find another culture where monogomy/connection is still possible…
/r/TheRedPill28/02/19 06:54 PM
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Indeed, the eventual parting of ways is the downside. So you've got to build yourself up and maintain mental strength and of course SMV generally. Sex on tap plus connection with a 9 is pretty amazing. Not many downsides during the relationship. Random 7s and 8s aren't even that appealing anymore.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/19 06:38 PM
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Exactly. In 5 years time, you aren't going to care about the girls you have now. But you sure as hell are going to care about the extra wealth and better financial position that your past self gave you.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/19 06:35 PM
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Indeed your post is accurate in the western world. But one thing to keep in mind is that there are other cultures where monogamy is still a tempting concept. Imagine meeting a genuine 9/10 who is also feminine, intelligent and loyal. After years of mulling this subject over, my personal conclusion is that medium-length, monogamous, meaningful connections with girls that meet the above criteria are the way to go. This creates a lot of happiness and allows me to focus on other more important areas…
/r/TheRedPill28/02/19 05:17 PM
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Russell Brand. Of course. My last LTR said once "I bet I could sleep with Russell Brand if I tried". Loyal and never flirty, yet still said that one time!
/r/TheRedPill28/02/19 01:14 PM
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I like the post. My default mode of operation is similar but later (11am-3.30am) which does work (allows time for being alone and having your best thoughts), but there is something psychologically positive about starting the day ahead of everyone (your method) rather than being behind and playing catch up. Indeed it is social events that tend to ruin this. And suddenly you're running on 3h sleep.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/19 01:01 PM
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Extremely accurate and well put. I would know. My latest business venture is a cocktail bar. In other words "get money out of (often overweght) female consumers by selling them something they definitely don't need, but stimulates their emotions". It is quite shocking to see the results.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/19 10:14 AM
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There are no HB9s in the UK
/r/TheRedPill27/02/19 10:55 AM
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Shocking that this video was made back in 2015. I was not even aware of this or TRP back then. It wasn't even that bad compared to now.
/r/TheRedPill17/02/19 09:26 PM
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Yes. Can relate to saying things without caring and seeing how people react. Recent example: Attractive waitress: "Did you enjoy your meal" Me: "The burger was surprisingly good - the perfect level of moistness" Her brain almost exploded and she couldn't stop repeating the word "moist" as she was trying to give a witty response. Of course it is mostly down to your general demeanour/confidence and how the words are delivered, than anything else.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/19 08:07 PM
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Absolutely. And women all have this ability inherently, which makes for entertaining watching whenever these types of men are around women. Since gaining this "vision" I've noticed women look at me and treat me as if they "know". It's difficult to even put into words, but this post is the first thing I've ever seen referencing it. Appreciate you putting it here.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/19 07:59 PM
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Yep. Since reaching this stage I am starting to dislike some of the people closest to me due to their constant feminine characteristics, and subtle tells which stem from their insecurity. I never noticed them before. Small things like weak tone of voice, talking too fast, walking too fast, appearing to be trying too hard, trying to point out negatives to bring others down, etc. It's sad but I don't really care - my own company plus interactions with strangers/women keeps me happy.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/19 05:22 PM
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What analogy would you use to describe people who rationalise a bucket-header's genuine success in order to feel better about themselves? E.g. "oh he only managed to become successful after doing this thing because of X/Y"?
/r/TheRedPill16/02/19 04:53 PM
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It's very true. One of the most common examples of this is the massive amount of "get rich quick" / "marketer" people that exist the internet. As somebody who has built 5 real businesses with real work forces, it is obvious to see that these "internet guru" businesses don't add up. Some may do well, but they do so by tricking naive, hopeful consumers into paying for vague consulting services which are of little real value. Paying somebody to make you rich is too easy. That isn't how it works.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/19 04:50 PM
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I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Understanding AWALT (i.e. the basic hypergamy instincts are always there for all women) is important because it allows you to truly internalise: She's ultimately not within your control and is likely to leave at some point Always focus on improving yourself and your life By "never", I only mean whilst the override force is still strong enough. Obviously pay attention to character if you do want a long term relationship. E.g. lack of honour/loyalty would c…
/r/TheRedPill14/02/19 03:00 PM
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Feminine men singing in high pitched voices about breakups?
/r/TheRedPill14/02/19 01:01 PM
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It's quite simple. Here's a more succinct explanation. Of how I see it. All women are biologically hypergamous. Hence "ALL" of them being "LIKE" that. (yes, maybe a few with mental disorders are completely devoid of it, but let's not be autists) BUT, there are many cases where SMV of existing guy, emotional bond, religion, honour, loyalty, avoidance of guilt, avoidance of social ruin, need for stability, etc, would override her natural biological instinct. I.e. she is still LIKE that, but there …
/r/TheRedPill14/02/19 11:44 AM
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It's always good to be self-aware: stopping yourself when you're wasting too much time in a state of mental masturbation. But I generally disagree with your take on things here. I am sure a lot of MGTOW people are using it as a mental buffer to avoid discomfort and growth. But banging girls is just another form of short-term pleasure. MGTOWs aren't wrong with what they say. Once you get enough women, they lose their appeal, and more meaningful activities replace them. Such as building your busin…
/r/TheRedPill04/02/19 05:19 PM
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Completely. The moment I stopped trying to find a relationship is when I found happiness. Ironically I now technically have a girlfriend (she's 20, from a better culture than the west, insanely hot, and I took her virginity). Loyal as hell. I am her king. BUT IN SPITE OF ALL THIS, I STILL do not have the mindset of commitment. I of course keep this on the down-low. Been there doing "the moral thing" in the past. Still got screwed over. Look after number one first.
/r/TheRedPill22/01/19 11:11 AM
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You seem to be into a lot of gay hipster shit, but other than that, nice work Best comment on thread
/r/TheRedPill20/01/19 04:33 PM
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You're missing a few points: - You think and care about girls far less when you have so many options. - Once you reach a certain level, you feel like a chump going online and actively trying to find girls. I don't care how "efficient" it seems. Psychologically you feel like you're trying way too hard. You are not much different to the hordes of thirsty dudes validating women on the internet. Not all online is bad though - being opened by girls on Instagram and merely replying to them, and perhap…
/r/TheRedPill20/01/19 04:29 PM
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Women end up unhappy because they were not chosen and taken by the right male. Men end up unhappy because they did not take the right action. Just my two cents on the matter. This is a great way to see it. Think about it: it's impossible for men to "just take" women via the internet. This is what women crave. Women are left with too much of the decision making process and can see things way too logically/objectively when looking at a load of pixels on a screen. In person she can "go with the flo…
/r/TheRedPill20/01/19 04:15 PM
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Absolutely. Plus interacting via text removes almost all of the human element. Everyone becomes the same. How is one meant to make choices and begin to form connections when presented with thousands of people who have been reduced to a set of pixels on a screen? I have experienced this from the man's side so I understand this well. Back in 2014 I was keen to date any Tinder girl I could find that was reasonably in shape. Now, after more years of building myself up as a man, there's just too much…
/r/TheRedPill20/01/19 04:31 AM
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Definitely. And the M/F ratios mean thirst levels are off the charts (= white knights galore)
/r/TheRedPill17/01/19 11:14 PM
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I don't know whether people lack intelligence and ability to think on a deeper level, or if they are simply lead by their ego/emotions. To beta males it's a way of knocking their competition down a peg. The advert makes me feel sick on both an instinctive and a logical level. Utterly pathetic. Go and watch a documentary on Stalingrad and then watch this video. What a joke.
/r/TheRedPill17/01/19 05:19 PM
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Such men are difficult to find these days. My closest bonds are with my business partners. Even if they have some feminine traits and aren't quite fully RedPill aware, we still focus on solving problems and making money together.
/r/TheRedPill17/01/19 05:10 PM
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Yes. Whenever I speak about this to my friends, some ask "why do you care?". My answer: I don't. I merely find it interesting and enjoy talking about it. I notice more and more femininity in men with every passing day. Even down to their body language. But this just makes me stand out even more.
/r/TheRedPill17/01/19 05:08 PM
2

Why not just do both. Both will get you rewards. I'd say being worried about saving $10 is pathetic.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/18 11:08 AM
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I live the "nomad lifestyle". Lots of freedom and lots of moving around European cities.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/18 08:33 AM
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Absolutely. And the girls can sense this too. Example from this story... the girls were asking me to play piano for them. Everytime I did, he would turn music on/up to drown it out. Hilarious.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/18 08:01 AM
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I'm not in the US but... I don't think many high SMV girls use Tinder for bangs. It's desperate. They don't need to. They have social circle or can go to clubs and merely use their eyes to find hot guys. High SMV girls on Tinder are more interested in other SMV traits because... well... it's harder to find those ones, so apps and the internet can expand reach.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/18 06:44 PM
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Had a similar situation recently but the dynamic was me, 2 guys, 2 girls. One guy was my old school "fake alpha" friend (who spent the night constantly trying to neg me, which I completely ignored). One was a beta, but nice guy. Both girls obviously wanted me. The dynamic was so problematic that I couldn't be bothered. Fake alpha constantly had something to prove. Beta was lingering the whole time. Both girls were trying for me. I just chilled with everyone and chatted to the beta. Sometimes kee…
/r/TheRedPill14/07/18 06:35 PM
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I am surprised by how much I love this post/idea. Going to try it in a couple of different countries with 2 accounts. I think this would work well in my case as I'm probably a 7/10 in looks but 9/10 in other SMV departments (which are hard to display in just 1 photo).
/r/TheRedPill14/07/18 06:10 PM
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Hey, thanks man. Reaching that point was a huge step for me towards overall happiness. The key is to stop seeking them. Whether ONS or long-term. If they're part of your life organically then it's okay. I feel as though even cold approaching / going out specifically to bang shows that you care too much about women. Guys I know who do that all invest so much time with little return. I did pass through the nostalgia / missing friends stage that you speak of, but over time I started to become more …
/r/TheRedPill01/07/18 02:08 AM
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"but you're so sad for sleeping with prostitutes!!!! you can't find a real woman!!!"
/r/TheRedPill28/06/18 11:04 AM
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Many excellent points made. One of my favourite posts on here. > Men are supposed to spend their lives inventing, planning, fighting, not thinking about women all the time. You really think bronze age dudes transcribed their arguments with wifey onto clay tablets and shared it with other bronze age dudes? No! They were too busy killing other bronze age dudes. Worst case scenario they could barter 8 goats for another wife. Modern western women are only worth about 3 goats because they can't cook …
/r/TheRedPill27/06/18 03:36 PM
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But we don't care what people on the outside think. Which is, again, part of being RedPill.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/18 03:24 PM
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Awesome point. Have experienced this myself. What helps is for you to genuinely not be bothered about whether you have sex or not. If you're really keen you'll end up pushing too much and react badly to her shit tests without even realising (facial expressions, body language, etc).
/r/TheRedPill26/06/18 11:15 AM
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I appreciate the story. But how long ago was this? especially now that everyone has way better tools to work with I think it has the opposite effect. With modern smartphones and Instagram, girls are more accessible and therefore have guys throwing themselves at them constantly. The result is girls have to be pickier and simply don't need what you described above as much as they once did. I've been using Tinder from 2014-2018. I have noticed a huge difference even in these 4 years, and my SMV has…
/r/TheRedPill25/06/18 08:03 PM
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I agree with the post. I'm just saying it's a bad move on high SMV girls that you haven't built enough comfort/connection/attraction with (most daygame/street/Tinder situations). Unless you are Cha(nning Tatum). If anything it would be harder on Tinder. It's difficult to build the above 3 via text, and it's easy to have balls over the internet. In person, stated with confidence, would improve results.
/r/TheRedPill25/06/18 07:49 PM
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Thanks man. I am living proof that you can do it too. This isn't just some nonsense BP-style encouragement. I think I might know what you mean. When I was travelling to meet my first girlfriend and lose my virginity, all I could think was "nah it's not going to happen. Good things like this can't happen to me". Then it happened and I still thought it wasn't right. My best advice would be to keep succeeding enough times and eventually you feel there is sufficient proof that you are the real deal.…
/r/TheRedPill24/06/18 09:16 PM
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Thank you. There's a lot I could say here, but I'll share some of the main pointers. - To be successful requires not only hard work, but you've got to be smart and do things right. Hard work alone doesn't cut it. That's another RP truth. - Don't rely entirely on yourself to do things right. Get advice from others more experienced. Find a business partner to cover the skillsets that you don't. Drop the ego and get help. Ego KILLS businesses. - Delegate. Perhaps not initially, but don't try to do …
/r/TheRedPill24/06/18 08:55 AM
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Definitely. But if you CAN find the motivation, it makes things so much easier. It makes things automatic. If you enjoy it, there's no discipline even required. And there's nothing wrong with making things easier either. Smart people make things easier.
/r/TheRedPill24/06/18 08:48 AM
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Absolutely. If you can get all of the areas I mentioned into a positive place, you'll be unstoppable. It's strange how hindrance with just 1 of them can hinder you overall.
/r/TheRedPill24/06/18 08:46 AM
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Glad to hear it man. Remember, it's easy: just eat less. Any time you want to eat a donut, imagine how many minutes of running you'll have to do to burn it off. It's a great first step because you will find everybody (guys and girls) will treat you differently when you have lower BF%. It's not just body - it affects your face a lot too. All of it will make you more confident to do other things.
/r/TheRedPill24/06/18 08:44 AM
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Yeah that was definitely odd and looked a bit needy. It might not matter if she likes you enough but it really isn't the best way to go about things. You could have just waited until you see her again, like the first time. Or just chatted to her properly at the end of the night instead of leaving. I think there's still value to your post though. This is something that I like to do. When you go to a gathering and there's obviously hot girls, a lot of the dudes are desperate to be near them and ta…
/r/TheRedPill24/06/18 08:41 AM
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You are right. Ideally one would do what they can to maintain motivation for as long as possible, whilst applying discipline as a constant.
/r/TheRedPill24/06/18 12:24 AM
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Saying something humorous/mocking/bizarre/stupid is my preferred way of shunning shit tests (I'd deem it "sort of" a shit test). Just don't answer it directly. "I'm usually horrible but singing Celine Dion at Karaoke has brought my soft side out" is the first thing that came to my mind.
/r/TheRedPill23/06/18 07:25 PM
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Depends. If it's a girl that obviously likes you and you've built a bit of a connection with - then yes absolutely. I like the post. If it's a random daygame/street/tinder number with a 7+/decent SMV... nope. No chance. High SMV girls do not allow strangers to their homes and then cook meals for them. May be different in different cultures but even in the US I seriously doubt it.
/r/TheRedPill23/06/18 03:27 PM
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A decent read. But I cringed at "sure, just no friendzone bullshit". Better to imply it rather than actually using the phrase "friendzone" to a girl you're involved with...
/r/TheRedPill23/06/18 03:17 PM
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Nice graph bro. Dem smooth lines.
/r/TheRedPill22/06/18 05:33 PM
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(whilst pointing camera at them) "What are all these pictures on here of men's body parts, Cindy?"
/r/TheRedPill22/06/18 05:22 PM
1

More efficient. Yep. Although definitely increases likelihood of crazy. But who cares.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/18 11:26 PM
2

They aren't strictly bad. But you're often sat far apart and there's not much opportunity for kino. Messes up the natural flow. Slightly formal. Etc.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/18 11:25 PM
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Great guide man. I am a seasoned online dater myself and this is the best (and closest to my experiences) that I've read. My flaw is that I hate clubs. I have bad hearing and they're not my natural environment. Used to do restaurant dates all the time and then TRP explained why they're bad. I tend to do quiet to reasonable noise level bars now.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/18 04:21 PM
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This is great. So many of my thoughts explained concisely without overuse of jargon and other political terms. I like the emphasis on "on average". I try to explain this to my blue pill friends when arguing about men vs women, but they are too fucking stupid to understand (or just don't want to listen). "but I find women who are intelligent sexy" / "but most medicine students are female" FUCK OFF.
/r/MGTOW24/03/18 10:17 PM
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I love her twitter name. "Model" LOL.
/r/MGTOW24/03/18 07:10 PM
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Great post. Sums up my thoughts on life as a whole extremely well. The realisation of women being worthless to you, and that you can get a HB10 to do whatever you like for mere paper notes, completely alters your perception and life goals.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/18 01:47 AM
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Around $700. International/europe. I won't be any more specific.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/18 09:02 PM
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I know she sees other people and not even a small part of me cares about it. As you can probably tell by the rest of my post, nothing else is invested. Feelings/commitment aren't things I do any more.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/18 09:02 PM
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It's great to hear that somebody further along in life shares the same thoughts I do. My conclusion about sugar dating is that it's a no-BS, fast method of dating extremely high SMV women (which would be hard/impossible to obtain and keep in the vanilla world). However, since achieving true MGTOW mindset (which I agree feels like the road to true peace), I haven't felt the need for any form of dating.
/r/MGTOW20/03/18 11:40 PM
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I've been saying exactly this to my friends. Never have I felt such power to push boundaries and accomplish things.
/r/MGTOW20/03/18 02:21 AM
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I can relate to this very strongly. After 4+ years of what was practically an addiction, I am finally over women. When I look back, I get the same sensation as I did when I quit playing World of Warcraft: it was all a false sense of achievement and short-term gratification. A month ago I made the following post: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/7ysxah/women_and_you_why_whats_your_purpose_whats_your/ Now I am fully in the MGTOW camp. A lot of people think MGTOW is full of chumps who c…
/r/MGTOW20/03/18 01:39 AM
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Haha absolutely! Seeing my HB10 sugar baby and fapping keeps me super happy and productive. Best of both worlds.
/r/TheRedPill09/03/18 05:03 PM
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Not sure if troll post but... Having tried NoFap etc, fapping generally makes me more productive because I stop wasting time chasing women. You're overthinking it.
/r/TheRedPill09/03/18 07:31 AM
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Definitely. Powerful combination. Actually being real and having cash puts you in the top 20%. Then being relatively young as well as attractive puts you into the top 5-10%. The ratios blew my mind. The gender dynamic is reversed on SA compared to Tinder. I get needy double/triple messages from girls who I've not replied to all the time... madness! Yeah. I got carried away and spent too much initially, although never too much on a single girl. I'm going to stick to seeing my 10 1-2 times a month…
/r/TheRedPill09/03/18 01:56 AM
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Good job man. So much of TRP is about thinking counter-intuitively to how society expects you to respond to women. If you're smart and have your shit together but you're being a bit of a dick to them, they'll be dripping. I know the feeling of power and confidence that you can obtain by "finding your rhythm" and initiating snowball effect also. The confidence leads you to make bolder moves, and the chain effect invokes natural abundance mentality. Bitches can sense it even if you're not being ov…
/r/TheRedPill08/03/18 11:14 PM
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Well said, and it's cool to hear my thoughts backed up by someone who's further on in life. I enjoy flirtation with women I meet in public. I might date ones that I bump into in daily life. But going out of my way for them is where things turn sour. Dating apps are the ultimate waste of life.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/18 10:55 PM
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Completely agree man. I've come to the same conclusions about money / gold diggers. As long as you're smart and don't marry, it does make things easier, and they can be way hotter / higher quality generally in my experience. It's just about overcoming the "feeling like you're paying for it" mental barrier. Since finding SA I've been so much happier, and even more so since overcoming the barrier. In fact, not only have they been hotter / higher quality. I feel as though they've also shown more ge…
/r/TheRedPill08/03/18 10:34 PM
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I can relate to this so much. It was almost like an addiction throughout the last 4 years. But the last 2 months have been bliss. I feel truly happy and I am progressing faster than I have ever progressed. Furthermore, spending more time making money = more money = more women. So it's win win. Women are a short term pleasure. Fun in the moment. When you quit dating, you're left wondering what you gained from ever partaking in it. It feels empty.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/18 01:07 PM
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Don't go on it. If you're not emotionally invested, like you claim, then you won't care. Get sex elsewhere. It's a mere temporary pleasure anyway.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/18 10:09 PM
2

https://www.bolde.com/thought-relationship-solid-dumped-reason-made-sense/ Oh dear.
/r/MGTOW27/02/18 08:33 PM
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I experience this more and more with every passing month. I've also got to the stage where I'm beyond actually caring anymore. It's a fact of life and I have accepted it. I walk my own path. Some people try to hide it but others are honest about it. Part of TRP is not giving a fuck and not being afraid to walk away / lose friends/people/plates/etc. If you can reach a point of not giving a fuck what friends say/think and get on with your own thing regardless of what happens, you'll find happiness…
/r/TheRedPill27/02/18 07:03 PM
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Thanks man, seems like our minds are very much aligned. You're 18 as well. You're in such a position of power already. Yep. The thought of finding a nice 7.5 to to be exclusive with would feel like a step backwards to me. So would finding anything below that to just have sex with.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/18 06:55 PM
1

It is apparent from your post that you spend too much time on the internet.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/18 01:30 AM
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It's a good way to do it but not quite the same. Having one as a backup for general daily use has been immensely helpful alone. Plus you can physically separate yourself from it when you want.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/18 08:19 PM
2

You make a good point, but I don't think it's that simple. If you're picking up the odd woman here and there then this is indeed probably overkill. If you're doing anything online it's definitely not. Whether on/offline, if you have reasonable sustained volume and it's women in their 20s then it's not. Women in their 20s in this day and age do text a lot generally. The majority will do more than mere logistical texts in my experience. Which is fine as long as you're not too keen in response to i…
/r/TheRedPill22/02/18 07:35 PM
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It may depend on exactly what line of business you're in. I tried it and it was impractical in my case. My businesses are all B2C.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/18 07:11 PM
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I completely agree with you when we're talking about business and pleasure (as I explained in my post). But when your main phone is being blown up by women all day, it's extremely practical to have a second.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/18 07:10 PM
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Great examples and all very true in my experience too. Great pointer with the nudes. Sending a nude is something they'll be sat waiting for a reaction to. No wonder it drives them crazy. I witnessed my bluepill friend (who's high SMV but with a blue pill mentality) do the opposite of this. He instantly responded to a nude with "oh my fucking god you're so fucking gorgeous". I cringed.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/18 06:06 PM
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Whilst it may be stated here numerous times already, I think it's good to have a periodic reminder about what is one of the most counter-intuitive and commonly misunderstood aspects of women. It's too easy to think "She's having fun. I'm having fun. What's the harm in talking/messaging her more. As long as I'm not too over the top. If she's mature she'll hate playing games anyway". As somebody who does well with women already, the above is one of my most common errors. Well summarised. This is w…
/r/TheRedPill22/02/18 05:12 PM
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Fuck 20%. I'm already there. This time next year: 10% The year after that: 5%
/r/TheRedPill22/02/18 04:56 PM
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Similar story to you there, except I've finally fully achieved the mindset of not wanting a LTR. Took me a long time to get there, though. RedPill got me over the final hurdle having already known most of it.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/18 04:36 PM
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Great way to summarise life as a man. A woman's version of struggle is trying to get the alpha to commit, or deciding what dress to wear...
/r/TheRedPill22/02/18 04:34 PM
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I loved this post. I thought I was doing well, but the fact that I am not yet at #5 motivates me to keep on going. I feel I'm a less social version of #4 currently.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/18 03:37 PM
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So did I the first time. Give it another shot. The second time I was a lot more confident and acted in control. I circled round a few times to make my decision and specifically picked ones that looked happy/bubbly and in a good mood rather than the bitchy looking ones. I think that helps a lot. They were also 2 of the hottest there.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/18 03:35 PM
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I used to be a very low SMV male. Overweight. Cripplingly shy and anxious. Its actually crazy how far I have come. But regardless of this I do think I had some built in RP traits from the very beginning.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/18 07:45 PM
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Doing it as a one off when you travel to a new place is an amazing experience. You get a girlfriend and a tour guide at the same time. On a recent trip I did, the girl decided she liked me enough to keep on seeing me without the money aspect. She took me on a road trip. I just got the hotels dinners etc. Had such a blast. And tons of sex.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/18 12:12 AM
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Correct. It doesn't buy everything. I'm here to progress myself further and boost my SMV. I still very much enjoy picking women up on my daily travels, as well as improving other aspects of my life. I wanted to share my thoughts. I have read so much yet never given back to the community. Many commenters have given very positive replies and I've had several private messages of gratification.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 11:31 PM
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Truth. Almost all rich men are still bluepill as hell from my experience.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 09:01 PM
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Here's a little insight / RP example. He gave her a "job" that was just a front, as she's pretty useless and mental. Plus probably more money on the side. One day whilst there with her outdoors, he randomly shouted "SHALL WE PLAY HIDE THE SALAMI" whilst outside and he fucked her. She just let it all happen and didn't seem to complain. This was after he spiked her drink and fucked her already (when they first met up). Again she didn't actually complain about this either. Couldn't make it up. RP h…
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 08:43 PM
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Drop me a PM with specifics and I will happily give you some of my stories!
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 08:36 PM
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And also a woman knows that if she wants to keep you coming, the only thing that she has to do is keep having fun She's having fun. I'm having fun. My needs are met. I'm better off financially. I'm better off mentally. Win/win/win/win/win ;)
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 08:35 PM
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Keep at it man. Sugaring remains valid until you're 60+ after all ;) Another thing people forget is... money is overrated. Like. Once you reach a certain amount per month, you run out of things to spend it on that bring pleasure/meaning to your life. What's the point in investing so you can have even more money in the future when you don't even want to spend it now?
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 08:28 PM
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You're completely right. When we had the final "wish you the best, let's cut contact but say some nice honest parting things" conversation, she told me... "I'm not going to say watch out for women going for your money because you're far too smart for that". "You're too much of the bachelor type. I don't think you'll ever want to settle down with me" "Now you can go find a supermodel" Etc. Hid all of it from me until the moment we broke up for good.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 08:23 PM
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Tons of women in NYC. Like fuck tons. You won't struggle to get lots of free "initial meet" dates, but taking things further will come down to how much you're willing to give, in combination with your SMV. If you are hot/alpha/have a lot to offer on a vanilla level then you can get away with paying a lot less (which also proves that many are not there purely for money). Women's expectations vary wildly, but if you "shop around"... I've got great-personality girls for around the following: HB8 fo…
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 08:18 PM
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I have never visited these countries but I have read about them (e.g. on RooshV travel section) and always wondered. Thanks for the insight. I will be sure to venture there, but to be honest I don't think it would change my views. It's not just western women's hypergamy that causes me to think this way I'll be sure to have a lot of fun though.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 08:08 PM
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Great post man. Spot on and it's great to hear of other men who've naturally come to the same conclusion as me. My best sugar experiences have been with women from central to eastern Europe. Actually, best vanilla dating experiences too. I can relate to filling all of my evenings with dates. Like some kind of game. But for what? Another thing that reminds me to not LTR is remembering the frenzied lust for other women combined with mild dislike and injustice I developed 1 year into my last. Even …
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 08:00 PM
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The "cost" of my vanilla relationships and dating are much less then your sugar dates I know for a fact, I just have to face rejection sometimes where you just buy that downside away. I have absolutely no doubt that this is true in your case. But in my case it's not. Like I said, been there, done that. Occasional pickup of people I meet in my normal daily interactions satisfies that side for me.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 07:55 PM
1

I quite like this. In all my relationships I've never felt I got back what I deserved. All of them also said that I intimidated them with my general life ability and they constantly felt inferior.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 07:26 PM
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I'm not denying that sugaring is any different to prostitution. But then what's the cost of a vanilla relationship / dating? Time is money. All women are whores one way or another. The key here is to drop the ego, know that you can still pull vanilla women, know you're alpha as fuck and not give a fuck about paying. Do you think I was worried about my HB10 feeling attraction towards me when I rammed my cock in her dripping wet pussy for the first time? Every man has to experience this at least o…
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 07:15 PM
2

Exactly! I'm glad you experienced this first hand. If you do things right sugaring then you will find one with every trait of a relationship, without the BS. I had one that texted me every day and confessed feelings etc. I remained stoic but told her I enjoyed time with her. Total cost? ~$800/mo. She was an 8. No hassle. Great times had. 4 meets per week, texting every day. Entirely real. I eventually got bored and cut it off which made her very upset. Could have done it for half the cost if I s…
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 07:12 PM
1

My father regularly jokes about how many men my mother saw in her early days. He also gets salty about her still talking to the occasional ex boyfriend from decades ago. When she talks about him passing away (he's old), the first thing she mentions is money and her being secure. AWALT. She also encourages me to see lots of people and have fun, like she did. She finds it amusing. Maybe I get the RedPill genes from her. Certainly not from my father.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 07:00 PM
2

It doesn't really make you anything. It's not red or blue. It's just very fun and allows me to focus on my mission and increasing my SMV. So that's both hedonism and personal growth covered in one fell swoop.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 06:58 PM
3

Hey. I appreciate the reply. All of your thoughts echo ones I've had along the way too. Word for word. I still mull things over even now. It's interesting to hear what somebody who earns more than I do has to say also. First off I echo what you say about women on SA mostly being of a certain "personality type" - i.e. cold, lacking emotion, often personality disorders. Perhaps this just means they're redpilled and going for what matters to them rather than wasting energy on a man. But hey, if you…
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 06:55 PM
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This guy gets it. Great answer. Us men have the amazing ability to clear our heads of our biological needs by simply getting our dick out and cracking one out. That allows us to think clearly and get on with the things that actually matter. My friend's grandfather told him: whenever you're making a woman-related decision, have a wank first. Then think. What a legend. Wanking instead of finding a girl for sex doesn't make you less of a man. Just an efficient one.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 01:00 PM
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Thanks man. It's taken me many years to realise everything that I have. It might just be something that people have to experience themselves to fully understand. Like you I don't want kids currently but I might want them them in the future (45+). I'm not the planner type, so I'll see how I go. If you're going to do it once, you may as well wait until later life when your SMV is declining and you're becoming more more bored with life. That's the way I see it. However, given that you can realistic…
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 12:55 PM
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Thank you. I will be making more posts here for sure. Sadly I can't share that as it's quite specific. But it's not any of the stereotypical "high ticket consulting"/"internet marketing" bullshit that you see floating around the internet. They're real businesses with a large, real, workforce.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 12:50 PM
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This is also something I've battled with over the years. Here's my take on it. Feeling insecure about her only being there for money is just that: insecurity/ego talking. If you know you're capable of pulling vanilla women then you shouldn't let this stop you doing what makes logical sense. I feel you with the enjoying women's company generally thing too. I've just found what I believe to be a better/more efficient way of doing it. Sugaring also involves lots of travel and trips which is amazing…
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 12:48 PM
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Quality of tail is a really important part of my overall post. I don't think I made this clear enough. That's what makes sugaring/hookers so awesome. 6-7s just don't cut it for me anymore. Why on earth would you sacrifice so much time and mental energy with vanilla dating for them anyway?
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 12:44 PM
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Great point and I can definitely relate to this. It's easy to get too caught up in the "being a ladies man" side of personal development. In the right amount it's amazing for confidence boost and will seep into other areas of your life. Just don't get carried away with it like I have. Meet women when you're already out in public for X reason. Fuck dating apps etc.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 12:42 PM
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Exactly this. This guy gets it. If I could equate the amount of time/energy I've lost over the past 2 years due to attempted vanilla relationships, drama, getting and dealing with plates, etc, to a monetary value (the delta between my income now and what it could have been if I'd have ignored all of the above), it would exceed sugar/hooker costs ten-fold. Plus I'd be happier and have more awesome stories to show for it.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 12:40 PM
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All great points yes. The overall point of the post was to describe what "end-game TRP" looks like for me, and what it could look like for others if they put their minds to it. Wait. I don't want to say "end-game", because I always want more. You can always develop further. But you get what I mean.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 12:38 PM
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I know how you feel and I've battled with the thought of this myself for many years. I concluded that the ideal situation would be to find somebody for companionship and then both be genuinely okay with not being exclusive, ever. Best of both worlds then. But in my experience, even when the women is the first to mention being non-monogamous, she's also the first to get jealous about you seeing other people. Even if you're covert about it. One way or another things never last. This applies to pre…
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 12:35 PM
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You're not wrong there. During my first few months I was like a kid in a candy store and didn't know what I was doing and what rates were normal etc. I indulged too much than was healthy. Now I've cut back to a sensible amount and have found the one girl that I enjoy seeing. It's all part of the learning process. You see, ROI as a business owner in my position is not that simple. Given the size of some of my businesses and the skillset I have, the comparison to make is the following: ROI that I …
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 04:52 AM
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Absolutely. There are far better places for women in general, whether it's hookers or wives! The money for women trade is automatically rejected by society and possibly even a lot of people here. But logically it makes sense. I get more done, am better off financially overall, am happier overall, have no doubts about my vanilla pulling ability due to my daily interactions with women everywhere.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 04:20 AM
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Already working on the bar/nightclub thing actually! :-) Your point about using the money for other things is totally valid, but this is the way I see it: Simply put, sugaring to fulfil my sex/dating needs means I get a fuck ton more work done, which equals better net result. I'm not talking thousands of dollars here at all. You'd be surprised.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/18 04:16 AM
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Your oneitis levels are through the roof, as you know. Never let yourself get like this in the future. Always have abundance mentality. You say how special she is yet she's posting snapchat stories about loser exes sending her gifts. She isn't special. You'll realise that. On that note, STOP looking at people's stories on Snapchat. It's a waste of life and screams orbiter. Uninstall that shit. Work on yourself. Lift. Grow. Soak up RP. Fuck bitches. It won't happen overnight but it is insane what…
/r/TheRedPill15/02/18 03:04 PM
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This is very similar to what happened to me recently. Had a very strong connection with the girl. Chatted a lot before meeting. Phone calls. Met. Date was even better. Lots of fun, flirting, touching, kissing, etc. She was discussing the trip we're going to go on for the next date with excitement. Then as soon as she went away on business she became distant. I am wise to how women work and I am chill about how flakey they are, but this one genuinely baffled me. I eventually found out she'd been …
/r/TheRedPill11/02/18 10:40 PM
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