MrSaturn33 Archive

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–	"you are not entitled to sex. It is not a necessity" is a bad argument ✔✔✔ I won't read the comments/replies here for the sake of my own sanity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/24 11:59 AM
9	Women should avoid inexperienced men. Obviously amongst men who do harbor resentment, their failure is a relevant factor to explain the source of this resentment. But this does not at all imply that men who struggle to find relationships or are adult virgins are necessarily all resentful to women, yet OP flat-out said this and you now imply the same in your reply. This is about basic logic and honesty. On the contrary, most men understand that women do not owe them a relationship and therefore do not feel entitled to it, therefore i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/24 10:43 AM
20	Women should avoid inexperienced men. Adult male virgins are red flags because they feel bitter and jaded about their experiences and wronged by women. They expect any woman they date to compensate for all the sexual experiences they've missed out on. Additionally, many of these men struggle with porn addiction and carry emotional baggage from prolonged loneliness. This is just a false stereotype and a lie. It's ludicrous to suggest that all adult virgin men, or any adult men that struggle with loneliness or to find relationships, h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/24 07:36 AM
–	CMV: US women are entitled that is the cause for dating issues I am not taking issue with women's standards. What I am taking issue with is women normalizing their high standards. Have whatever standards you want but also be realistic about what they are Of course what you're saying makes sense, but you have to take the mindset that it's to be expected they would not do this. Of course once they have standards like that, they're not going to be honest about them and will try to paint them as more reasonable or correspondent to reality than they actually are…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/24 10:44 PM
6	It does feel like the Blue Pillers here are committed to making men feel like they're never the prize "Marriage is beneficial for men but not for women". Imagine thinking this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/24 07:41 PM
3	Okay, forget looks, which personality would you pick? 🙄	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/24 07:22 PM
1	Okay, forget looks, which personality would you pick? I mean, I mostly understand where you're coming from. Jane would be intolerable due to her personality, an utterly vapid one, certainly a direct reflection of how many women are in reality — obsessed with her appearance, cosmetics, fashion, and the superficial...in general sacrificing so much for nonsense like nails and makeup drives me insane. Sally would be difficult due to the aforementioned demand to constantly go on roadtrips. Anna would be intolerable to any man interested in living a genu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/24 07:17 PM
2	Okay, forget looks, which personality would you pick? That's so pedantic. The rest of the description talked about her interest in travelling.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/24 06:18 PM
2	Okay, forget looks, which personality would you pick? Come on, you may dislike all of them, but some of them are definitely worse than others. So you can easily answer it if you go off the basis of, "least bad." Like you can't seriously act like Sally and Anna are the same. If you had to be with one, just think how different that would be.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/24 06:17 PM
1	Okay, forget looks, which personality would you pick? Tina. (until you said she smoked weed.) On second thought then because of this, I may be happier with Sally, but her constant need for "regular road trips" sounds like it could be demanding. I didn't even consider going with Jane or Anna. They are both totally bad choices for me, in different extremes. Nature is undoubtedly more interesting than fashion (Jane) or entertainment media consumption. (Anna) It's to the point I don't know how anyone could disagree. (Sally's interests in travel sound m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/24 06:03 PM
1	I 28M Struggling to find love? What should I do to allivate the emotional void? Yes, though interestingly he never had a hard time dating after divorcing my mother... (on the other hand, my mother never met anyone again after him. I can't say I mind this, my brother and I have talked about how a lot of kids were fucked up by having to deal with meeting their single mother's boyfriends, hearing them fuck, etc.) though I would argue given the women he was with after her, his standards weren't that great. My mother was definitely a conventionally attractive white woman in her …	/r/MensRights	16/07/24 11:30 PM
1	I 28M Struggling to find love? What should I do to allivate the emotional void? Are you referring to me or my father? I don't appear to be "ethnic" to anyone at all and never have. I began my answer to your question in my above reply with "no" followed by clarifying this. Everyone I have ever come across my entire life in the U.S.A. (and I'm in New York, an especially diverse place) thinks that I'm European on both sides, because that's exactly how I look to people here. If you read my entire reply, I just edited it to clarify I just have standard white skin in the first pa…	/r/MensRights	16/07/24 11:21 PM
1	I 28M Struggling to find love? What should I do to allivate the emotional void? Short answer, no. Based on how I look, everyone thinks I'm simply European on both sides. (while in fact, I am half European) By all accounts, I'm "caucasian." My mother is a white american. (and I was raised only by her as a single mother) She's half English, a quarter French, a quarter German. My skin tone is the same of all white people. But my father is "ethnic." My father is Iranian (specifically Iranian-Azeri from Tabriz, meaning he not only knows Persian but also Turkish, in addition to h…	/r/MensRights	16/07/24 11:11 PM
0	Most of what Andrew Tate says is spilled between the lines by women on this sub Once society and the reasons it is the way it is is understood, there is nothing to "cope" about. Your reply addresses nothing that I actually said, and demonstrates your own (middle-class) biases. (To imply that poor people are "coping" to so much as acknowledge the obvious fact that their jobs interfere with their ability and time to have a social life. Needless to say, people also socialize along class lines, with upper-clases often shunning lower ones, with whatever pretense. Capitalism defi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/24 02:19 AM
56	Gynocentric Censorship on this Reddit? (Swipe right for context) Your post was completely constructive. Regardless of how you worded it, it's obvious you don't think all women are the same, and your general points were clear. From my experience, posts like yours are allowed on the subreddit all the time anyway, so this is completely arbitrary and stupid. The mod who deleted this just had a knee-jerk reaction and obviously actively disagreed with your points. He's a crypto-Feminist.	/r/MensRights	15/07/24 06:41 PM
11	Gynocentric Censorship on this Reddit? (Swipe right for context) Even if he did like so what, women are generalizing about men all the time. Maybe his choice of words could have been a little less generalizing, he's making a broad point anyway. The post was constructive. Obviously the mod who deleted it is a crypto Feminist.	/r/MensRights	15/07/24 06:40 PM
10	I 28M Struggling to find love? What should I do to allivate the emotional void? That explains it. And for perspective, I'm 5'5. (and also 28 years old) Dating is hard in the U.S.A. for men who have average faces, average salaries and are 5'8 or above. Now, assuming your face is at least average, imagine how much of a nightmare it is to be anything shorter than 5'8. Our dating pool is mostly limited to short women. (e.g. apx. 5'0 - 5'4.) If we're lucky, we could meet a woman the same height as us who is willing to date someone the same height and doesn't prefer taller. Worse…	/r/MensRights	15/07/24 06:21 PM
4	I 28M Struggling to find love? What should I do to allivate the emotional void? What is your height?	/r/MensRights	15/07/24 05:45 PM
3	Do you think formerly promiscuous women are mostly disadvantaged in the dating market at least when it comes to getting commitment /marriage? women are given the choice of monogamy... most just decide to piss it away by being a hoe and letting men run trains on them in their youth So we're in agreement. That they aren't in monogamous relationships is their responsibility, as opposed to OP's framing that they vaguely are "caught up in a whirlwind" like it just "happens" because of society expecting them to stay promiscuous or discouraging them from being monogamous ir something. They easily could be in a committed monogamous relationsh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/24 03:30 PM
8	Do you think formerly promiscuous women are mostly disadvantaged in the dating market at least when it comes to getting commitment /marriage? But they could if they wanted to at any time. So the framing of OP that they are "caught in the cycle of casual sex" as if this is the fault of others in society for expecting them to be promiscuous and not enabling them the oppurtunity to be monogamous is erroneous.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/24 03:19 PM
20	Do you think formerly promiscuous women are mostly disadvantaged in the dating market at least when it comes to getting commitment /marriage? This is of course the case for you and many other individual men — my simple point is that there always will be men with lower standards that will be willing to date such women. Therefore, OP acting like women with promiscuous pasts simply have to remain this way and are inadvertently "dragged into a vicious cycle of casual sex" is absurd and wrong. Women can be in a monogamous committed relationship whenever they want to be, because there is always guaranteed to be men that are willing to be in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/24 03:03 PM
1	Do you think formerly promiscuous women are mostly disadvantaged in the dating market at least when it comes to getting commitment /marriage? "Multiple women are like this, therefore the phenomena you described never happens with any women ever" This is obviously just as wrong as if I were to take what I said and over-generalize it to apply to all women or more women than it actually does.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/24 01:31 PM
4	Do you think formerly promiscuous women are mostly disadvantaged in the dating market at least when it comes to getting commitment /marriage? "My personal life was different, therefore this single anecdote means the phenomena you described never happens with any women ever"	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/24 01:29 PM
1	Do you think formerly promiscuous women are mostly disadvantaged in the dating market at least when it comes to getting commitment /marriage? They could settle down but also not have kids. I don't know why you're apparently defending the angle of OP that it just "happens" if you're 'Redpilled.' (OK fine I do, it's because the Redpill is also gynocentric. I don't even distinguish it from the Bluepill or "Purplepill") Again, women choose to be promiscuous at whatever stage in life they are. They could always be in a committed relationship with a man any time they want be because there is always a guaranteed amount of men anywhere they a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/24 01:18 PM
1	Most of what Andrew Tate says is spilled between the lines by women on this sub A few close friends is fine, Scroll up. "You don’t, but not having a decent sized friend group is a telltale sign that someone isn’t properly socialized." ➖➖➖➖➖➖➖➖➖➖➖➖➖➖ May i remind you that it is you that said: "properly socialized" I couldn't give less of a shit about this.'' The entire point is that "properly socialized" to them means having a "decent size friend group," or a general group/circle you regularly see as opposed to the example I was the first to bring up of having 1 - 3 close fr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/24 01:08 PM
-3	Do you think formerly promiscuous women are mostly disadvantaged in the dating market at least when it comes to getting commitment /marriage? Yes. They may "settle down" when they age and their SMV lowers and they now seek stability so "put their past behind them" for a man willing to commit to them, but the internal spirit is still there and informs their thoughts, beliefs, attitudes and actions for the rest of their life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/24 01:07 PM
35	Do you think formerly promiscuous women are mostly disadvantaged in the dating market at least when it comes to getting commitment /marriage? "I kind of feel for such women you know? Their life priorities may have changed, but they are being dragged into a vicious cycle of casual sex nevertheless." No, they're not. This is just a lie. They're not being inadvertently "dragged" into anything. Regardless of their past, any woman can easily find a monogamous relationship with a man who is at least decent and would be committed to her and willing to provide and sacrifice for them any time she wants. Especially these days when so many men h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/24 01:02 PM
0	Most of what Andrew Tate says is spilled between the lines by women on this sub Talk about completely missing and misrepresenting the point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/24 12:43 PM
2	Most of what Andrew Tate says is spilled between the lines by women on this sub They don't. They just respond to whatever is in front of them in the moment. You're making it more complicated than it is. (and as if "properly socialized" even means anything.)	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/24 12:12 PM
5	Most of what Andrew Tate says is spilled between the lines by women on this sub One can obviously not necessarily have a "friend group," and this does not mean they have no friends or are an "anti social loner." Your black and white thinking in extremes is telling. Most people are not necessarily close to everyone in their "friend group." The truth is life only enables most to be genuinely close to 1 - 3 of their friends, tops. Furthermore, nothing is necessarily wrong with someone who doesn't regularly socialize. Many people basically can't afford to have a social life bec…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/24 12:10 PM
1	Most of what Andrew Tate says is spilled between the lines by women on this sub "properly socialized" I couldn't give less of a shit about this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/24 11:18 AM
6	When dating, I believe women are given more grace to be honest. My experience is exactly the opposite. Women have incentive to lie and do lie because they are interested in sex and it all revolves around this, and are not interested in a relationship. Which isn't to say the dynamic you brought up doesn't exist. What's intolerable is saying it only happens that men want sex and women want something more, and never the other way around.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/24 07:34 PM
1	Q4M: We hear a lot about the "Modern woman". Describe the "Modern Male" that WE have to deal with when dating Maybe reddit's servers are spazzing out because of the Trump shooter	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/24 01:44 AM
1	Q4M: We hear a lot about the "Modern woman". Describe the "Modern Male" that WE have to deal with when dating I can see your reply now. I will check back again to make sure it works. The site has not been working properly for me and I have been unable to reply to people or see their replies or mine at least half the time for the past hour.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/24 01:37 AM
1	Q4M: We hear a lot about the "Modern woman". Describe the "Modern Male" that WE have to deal with when dating Now I can see this reply, but I can't see your reply, or many recent replies to replies of mine, or for that matter any comments or replies I try to make on any post on any subreddit. (an example) But I can see all my replies through my profile. It seems a reddit admin site-wide shadowbanned me? Either way, the site is functionally unusable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/24 01:36 AM
1	Does men showing they have “game” work on you? Or do you prefer real conversation? u/Illustrious_Wish_383 for some reason your reply is invisible, reddit won't show me it when I click it even logged out. I only read it because the full reply is visible on your profile, so I have no choice but to respond to you in a reply to myself here. My issue with those countries is I am am atheist and people in those cultures tend to be far more religious This just a misunderstanding of Latin America. Yes, the countries are Catholic, but this does not mean the average people you would be m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/24 12:44 AM
1	Q4M: We hear a lot about the "Modern woman". Describe the "Modern Male" that WE have to deal with when dating u/sublimemongrel for some reason your reply is invisible, reddit won't show me it when I click it even logged out. I only read it because the full reply is visible on your profile, so I have no choice but to respond to you in a reply to myself here. So are you RP too then? You don’t have an identifying flair yet say you agree with him while saying he’s clearly RP I am not Redpilled and this is not my mindset, no. I can agree with someone who says they are or who says something I characterize as …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/24 12:40 AM
-1	CMV : Men shouldn't be expected to pay for kids who are not his. If kids ars not his, why should he be their daddy? What is the country?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/24 08:31 PM
1	Q4M: We hear a lot about the "Modern woman". Describe the "Modern Male" that WE have to deal with when dating Hmmm Asian country might help I'm eligible for citizenship in Iran because my father was born there. This is an oppurtunity most Americans can't have, who can only visit Iran in the form of a limited, brief, guided tour trip. I can actually freely travel and live in the country, which is a very rare oppurtunity. Also, some of my family moved to Turkey. Having visited almost 2 years ago, I can attest that Turkey is like paradise, because the western and southern regions of the country are on the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/24 07:32 PM
2	Q4M: We hear a lot about the "Modern woman". Describe the "Modern Male" that WE have to deal with when dating And you obviously wouldn't say this to a woman complaining about "all the bad men tainting the dating pool" despite the fact women can have a good man whenever they want without even actually having to lower their standards the way men have to lower their standards; but would say a man criticizing and pointing out how promiscuity among women affects the dating pool, standards, and men's oppurtunity, and that men are expected to lower their standards so low as to be expected to be with the most p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/24 07:19 PM
0	Q4M: We hear a lot about the "Modern woman". Describe the "Modern Male" that WE have to deal with when dating None of this is a victimhood narrative at all. Criticizing a false equivalency is not the same thing as saying men are victims. It's just a willingness to point out obvious disparities where they exist, and to call out people trying to cover them with obvious bias. Saying that I or people like me make ourselves into "victims" is really an inverted way of saying we collectively blame or fault women, when this is not the case. And again, you didn't read what I wrote. Why even bother downvote or re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/24 07:12 PM
0	Q4M: We hear a lot about the "Modern woman". Describe the "Modern Male" that WE have to deal with when dating Yes the major problem they have and has been proven with studies (30% of them literally have autism), is that they are socially inept. There are other factors. Social media, high prices, way less “third/social” places and etc etc. But social success does require social skills. And incels refuse blatantly to accept that. But they end up sound like someone expecting to do well in multiplication and division but do not practice addition or subtraction. The skills in social relationships are not the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/24 06:57 PM
0	Q4M: We hear a lot about the "Modern woman". Describe the "Modern Male" that WE have to deal with when dating Incels have a common trait of being socially inept Of course, the rise in modern male loneliness is simply due to "social ineptitude." It's our fault for not having good enough social skills. There are no factors relating to the economy, society, class, money, the social and political reality and how this conditions women's standards and their likelihood of rejecting us to take into consideration. It's just our fault. I could spend a lot more time going over why everything you've said in this re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/24 06:36 PM
0	Q4M: We hear a lot about the "Modern woman". Describe the "Modern Male" that WE have to deal with when dating First of all, you didn't read my comment you're replying to. You're only replying in an attempt to invalidate, dismiss, and mischaracterize my reply for the other people here, as demonstrated by the fact this is all your reply does. It doesn't actually acknowledge or respond to any of the points I made. Secondly, you're not bluepilled. No women are bluepilled. You know the bluepill is bullshit but defend it anyway, because you have many bluepilled men here who will back you up doing so, and can …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/24 06:27 PM
1	Q4M: We hear a lot about the "Modern woman". Describe the "Modern Male" that WE have to deal with when dating No I didn't. I wrote: "I'm going to have more people to agree with." Nothing I wrote suggests I'm interested in echo-chambers. All you are doing is revealing that you think of men as a homogenous group and generalize our mindset to all be the same. Replies like this just do nothing but prove my point. Yet, I will not generalize women or make them all the same as if you all have a homogenous mindset, even though you would actually prefer me to, because your mindset already falsely stereotypes me …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/24 06:10 PM
1	Men Who Want To Hookup Are Ruining Modern Dating Oh of course, it's men who are promiscuous/hooking up that are "ruining" things. (Note I didn't say that women being promiscuous/embracing hook-up culture are "ruining dating." Neither sex "ruins" things. Collectively blaming and faulting women is just as wrong as collectively blaming and faulting men.)	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/24 06:00 PM
1	Q4M: We hear a lot about the "Modern woman". Describe the "Modern Male" that WE have to deal with when dating It was always just attention that they liked me but weren't sexually interested in me because I was always a cutecel. Now that I am older and have facial hair that's a different story, but only shorter women generally are seriously interested in sleeping with me. And in any case it can't be turned to my advantage because this is the U.S. and everything is impossible. (I'm in New York. NYC the most expensive city imaginable. It's not worth it. I'm going to move to another country. A decade is lon…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/24 05:49 PM
1	Q4M: We hear a lot about the "Modern woman". Describe the "Modern Male" that WE have to deal with when dating My situation is also unique, frankly it's the reason I am correct to the extent I am about all of this. (whereas incels who are ugly are often more likely to be biased, reductive, simplistic, and hyperbolic in their framing. This is the problem with the blackpill, as you said: incels often get into a cult-like mentality; even though they say the blackpill can help men find a way out of inceldom if it exists, in practice their mindset encourages them to be hopeless and not bother improving.) I'm …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/24 05:44 PM
1	Q4M: We hear a lot about the "Modern woman". Describe the "Modern Male" that WE have to deal with when dating But as far as my beliefs I'm probably more on the black pill side of things but without the hopelessness and hating on women This is exactly me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/24 05:42 PM
-1	Q4M: We hear a lot about the "Modern woman". Describe the "Modern Male" that WE have to deal with when dating Well, on these Red Pill or Black Pill subs the men do kind of have a hive mind, although maybe not as much as women It's not as much as women. There can't be a false equivalency because women are the selectors. Due to this, basically the situation is that men have the short end of the stick when it comes to the realm of dating compared to women. By default, a man is in the better position to have an accurate and honest confrontation with the reality of the situation, but women are biased to be d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/24 05:37 PM
1	Q4M: We hear a lot about the "Modern woman". Describe the "Modern Male" that WE have to deal with when dating Of course the ill effects of modern society can mean that women have to deal with many lousy men these days in the dating pool, (just as men have to) for a variety of reasons. But not in the same way. It just can't be made out to be even or equivalent to what men have to go through in dating. And any implication from any woman that it is, or even that women have it worse than men, is intolerable. This is obviously because women are the sexual selectors. Women set the standards and choose which m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/24 05:26 PM
0	Q4M: We hear a lot about the "Modern woman". Describe the "Modern Male" that WE have to deal with when dating This is spot-on. Especially the type of woman that would make a point of spending time out of her day to post on r/PurplePillDebate lol. Granted, you may rightly ask why I am here since I obviously dislike the perspective of women and Bluepilled people. The answer is because it's interesting to have a forum that accepts everyone. Of course, I'm going to have more people to agree with on a male-only/Redpill/Blackpill forum. (but this doesn't mean that if I did so it would exclusively be an "echo-…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/24 05:10 PM
3	Q4M: We hear a lot about the "Modern woman". Describe the "Modern Male" that WE have to deal with when dating You are correct. But your reply here demonstrates that your mindset is clearly that of the Redpill. (despite your flair saying "Purplepill") This is why I think the "Purplepill" thing is silly. What is correct about the Bluepill, that you would want to identify as a "mix of the Bluepill and Redpill" instead of just the Redpill? Basically, by identifying as "Purpepill" you are saying you are Redpilled but don't want to be stereotyped as the type of Redpiller who is dogmatic and fails to have nuan…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/24 05:09 PM
0	Does men showing they have “game” work on you? Or do you prefer real conversation? Actually the women are on average better looking in Mexico and more pleasant. Agreed, exactly. The U.S.A. has a higher obesity rate. And you're also correct that culturally the average woman is brought up to have a better personality, meaning they treat both men and the women in their lives alike better. Unfortunately South American women have never liked me that much. I do Ok… not great. I've heard there is a remarkable amount of discrimination to "gringos" there. You're treated as an outsider.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/24 03:41 PM
0	Does men showing they have “game” work on you? Or do you prefer real conversation? Then you have maybe a 10% shot… and those are good odds In the United States. A completely different story in countries like Mexico, that don't have the warped, skewed, distorted standards that the United States has. The best part is the women are just as attractive, and everything is more affordable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/24 02:51 PM
–	How are women treated post-wall? Scared of being alone and thrown away. You're completely misunderstanding everything. Any notions about the "wall" or fear of expiration are purely in your head. As long as you're not disabled and average or above in looks, as a woman you simply can't fail when it comes to dating. It doesn't matter if you're in you're 30's, 40's, or older than that. There will always be a guaranteed crowd of men that want to be with you and will be willing to provide and sacrifice for you, everywhere you go. If you don't heed my words, when you're ol…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/24 12:07 AM
2	Modern feminism and sex positivity have ironically cemented power in men (albeit fewer) even further Appreciate that, but I will mention that I don't primarily come here to discuss this topic. But just notice how quickly things go to this, and I don't think this can be construed as simply because I'm preoccupied with this topic and make a point of bringing it up. The reason it came to this in this case was because she said that the solution to the minority of the wealthiest people was taxing them and redistribution of wealth. As another user here stated, taxing the rich doesn't even affect the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 11:21 PM
1	Modern feminism and sex positivity have ironically cemented power in men (albeit fewer) even further Not at all. Inequality will persist, both domestically and internationally, for quite some time. Abolishing capitalism for communism has nothing to do with "inequality." Communism would not mean there is equality. It would mean there is not inequality on the basis of class. Just not enough to incentivize widespread destruction Again, class society and capitalism ending is itself tantamount to destruction of society or the end of the existence of humans for you. And I’m not a communist. Socialism…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 11:12 PM
7	Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women. Except guys said they had to be told attraction matters. No, they say they came to realize it mattered more than they thought it did in the face of formerly having possibly been told by parents etc. when they were children that it did not matter as much as they came to eventually realize that it actually did. It's not the same thing as "having to be told" that "attraction matters" at all. Obviously, children know that attractiveness and attraction matters, the question is to what extent. It says…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 05:37 PM
3	Modern feminism and sex positivity have ironically cemented power in men (albeit fewer) even further Exactly, populism is pro-system. The people who actually are the most wealthy and powerful aren't even affected by it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 05:35 PM
1	The end goal of feminism is revenge, not equality. Men need to recognize this and stop playing nice. The real reason it exists is because the institutions in society reflect the trajectory of social developments, which themselves are a product of certain historical conditions. Of course, this interpolates with culture, so the frameworks of woke in the U.S. would not necessarily arise in other countries which are otherwise undergoing the same economic developments for the same reasons. But the american/western petit-bourgeoisie (most wokes are not petit-bourgeois, thye are middle-class; but they…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 05:33 PM
2	The end goal of feminism is revenge, not equality. Men need to recognize this and stop playing nice. Most body positivity is about avoiding bullying fat people That's the pretense. Of course, it can have the effect of discouraging bullying to fat people, but it's more complicated than that. Furthermore, it can largely be counterproductive, because by being so forgone as to suggest that discouraging being overweight on the basis it's unhealthy is tantamount to discrimination and bullying, thus doubling-down on the mindset of the typical bully that makes it out to be the same thing, (I obviously …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 05:33 PM
1	Modern feminism and sex positivity have ironically cemented power in men (albeit fewer) even further And due to prosperity and technology , we are unlikely to have a mass, continent wide war ever again The global collapse of capitalism and the revolution around the world this will entail is not WWIII. But again, it's telling that you make it out to be the same thing in your mind, for the same reason that you act like the only alternatives are capitalism or no humans existing. (you did this when you said, "what’s wrong with having something instead of nothing") The only alternatives you see are …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 05:12 PM
1	Which of these women would you get into a relationship? I know, I edited my reply you are now replying to, (to be clear, I am talking about my initial reply to you in this reply when I begin it saying "I edited my comment to be clearer") I made a mistake and acknowledged it by doing so, as I am now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 05:11 PM
1	Which of these women would you get into a relationship? I edited my comment to be clearer because I don't know if it was read in its entirety or acknowledging the specific ones I mentioned. (Like Finola, Ali also does not want kids. The other two do.) I do not want kids. Kids are important to me in the sense her wanting to have any is a deal-breaker. It seems you're saying you also do not want to have kids.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 05:02 PM
1	Which of these women would you get into a relationship? The biggest thing for me was the kids, because I do not want kids. The first (Karlie) wants kids, as does the last. (Zoe) Only two (Ali) and three (Finola) do not want kids. So my choice was only between the two of them. If it was sheer attraction I would go with Finola, but went with Ali because I read this as a hypothetical where you have to be with them or at least for a long time. I'm also monogamous regardless, and it's a given that Finola would "cheat" on anyone she was with: it says her b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 04:56 PM
2	Which of these women would you get into a relationship? She's the most attractive. It depends on if the other traits matter to you. I read this as a hypothetical in terms of being in a long term relationship with them. So when I looked at it I primarily considered what it would really be like to live with this person.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 04:49 PM
2	Which of these women would you get into a relationship? The fact that most men are choosing Karlie first is likely not what would happen in reality It was deliberately put in that she is extremely religious to see if this would matter to men. Honestly it's bluepilled/liberal thinking: "you can't have a woman who is a virgin before marriage unless she is a hyper religious conservative woman who insists you are as religious as she is and read the Bible go to church and pray all the time." It's a cartoon way of looking at the world and understanding why…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 04:41 PM
2	Which of these women would you get into a relationship? She's the equivalent of Adam for the original gender reversed post.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 04:36 PM
2	Which of these women would you get into a relationship? Oh boy. The biggest filter here is the fact that two of the women want kids, two of them do not. Comparing Ali and Finola, I have to go with Ali because our personalities would be more compatible. I understood the hypothetical as: "if you had to be with one of them" and "for the rest of your life" though the original post didn't clarify this, just said "be in a relationship" for an unspecified amount of time. Also, Finola is in a bad mood 20% of the time, like Josh from the original gender rever…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 04:31 PM
1	Us women always have orbiters, yes us older ones too No I'm saying a lot of men think older women and big girls are undesirable and I'm both lol https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1e0ssmw/comment/lcqfm3j/ 41 why https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1e0ssmw/comment/lcpnd91/	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 04:12 PM
1	Us women always have orbiters, yes us older ones too Did you see her replies here? She admitted to being overweight (her words: "I'm big") and 41 years old lol {insert obligatory joke about planets having orbiters here}	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 04:08 PM
0	Modern feminism and sex positivity have ironically cemented power in men (albeit fewer) even further Social stability is nice. No, it's not, fascist. It's not actually "stability." It's the illusion of stability. Unless you're comfortable and middle-class and just want to ignore all of the suffering poverty torture killing and death around you. There could have and should have been revolution during the Great Depression, one of the most notable examples of a time that was ripe for revolutionary conditions. Instead, there was WWII and thereafter more economic stimulus, a ballooning of the welfar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 04:03 PM
4	Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women. Bluepillers will never honestly acknowledge the extent of it. They make false rebuttals to those who do all the time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 03:57 PM
6	Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women. I think you're just messing around at this point. Everyone knows women value looks, but the point is that the bluepill downplays the extent to which it matters to them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 03:54 PM
3	Modern feminism and sex positivity have ironically cemented power in men (albeit fewer) even further There is nothing radical about advocating to "tax the rich," otherwise so many politicians would not advocate it. Nothing that politicians or rich people advocate is radical.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 03:51 PM
1	Modern feminism and sex positivity have ironically cemented power in men (albeit fewer) even further That wouldn't solve anything. It could just temporarily allow more social stability, but it wouldn't solve the problem. Wealth redistribution is in fact inherent to capitalism. It will eventually collapse, none of your utopian ideals of reform will change that. For anyone that's seriously thought about this, it's ludicrous to suggest that there is a solution within capitalism's own premises for the violence of its own contradictions. It will inevitably eventually collapse and give way to revolut…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 03:50 PM
4	Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women. You're complete proof that bluepilled and redpilled types are not to be distinguished.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 03:46 PM
1	Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women. Who is lying to you? What polite society? The only people that would deny the extent to which men are told lies, and that acknowledging this often conflicts with political correctness because so many people in society affirm the lies and dismiss or deflect from criticism to them, are bluepilled types that approve of all this, like yourself. Gymbros have been telling everyone to start lifting for decades now. Just hit the gym bro	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 03:42 PM
5	Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women. Jesus, you're not only wrong and completely distorted in your entire framing, you're just plain hateful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 03:41 PM
7	Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women. Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women. It's not about being "upset" or expecting women not to have standards of attractiveness. It's just about pointing out the extent to which observing these obvious facts about the dynamics and pointing them out is forbidden in polite society. There is a reason we spend time talking about it on the internet: for many of us it is the only place to, or the only place we can to this extent. Th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 03:38 PM
1	The end goal of feminism is revenge, not equality. Men need to recognize this and stop playing nice. It doesn't have to be one or the other, moron.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 03:26 PM
2	The end goal of feminism is revenge, not equality. Men need to recognize this and stop playing nice. Obviously because capitalism has a decisive role to play in how the standards are defined. It's not just products that have value in society, but actually individual human beings too, we are conditioned by this just as individual products to be sold are, even though most people don't acknowledge it and are unconscious about it. (all women are completely aware of it, but not fully conscious of it, in the sense of conscious as I mean demystifying it) This essay explains this perfectly. Obviously, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 03:11 PM
-1	The end goal of feminism is revenge, not equality. Men need to recognize this and stop playing nice. Just get lost, you're not here to contribute to the discussion, only to vapidly claim I'm "projecting" or "paranoid" in a lazy pathetic attempt to completely dismiss any of my points. You can't even acknowledge or make an attempt at criticizing or disagreeing constructively with my statements, at least he was able to do so. You only base it around a hostile mischaracterization of me and my intentions, which if anything, only serves to prove my point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 03:09 PM
2	The end goal of feminism is revenge, not equality. Men need to recognize this and stop playing nice. Also… this study might peak your interest. It seems to contradict the idea that female attraction to money/resources is exclusive to human women. It’s likely just animal instinct innate to many female animals. This completely misses the point about capitalism how conditions this to be the particular way it is in this epoch of history to the point it isn't funny. You're just mystifying society. Nothing more. Modern western society in the present is in fact the most warped abstract and inverted so…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 03:04 PM
3	The end goal of feminism is revenge, not equality. Men need to recognize this and stop playing nice. this poster seems to be a clinically insane misandrist, female supremacist lol so all Feminists/Leftists/Liberals/people who approve of society	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 03:03 PM
-4	The end goal of feminism is revenge, not equality. Men need to recognize this and stop playing nice. I never said you did. Yes you did. You clearly implied I thought this way here: This is a terminally online take. Talk to any fat woman and find out how often people make unsolicited comments about her weight. And: I said claiming that women aren't judged or shamed or criticized for being fat is ludicrous I never claimed this. I said: "I can give a perfect example: being overweight. More than ever before, there is a culture in the west of fat women being legitimized and seen as "plus-sized" to t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 02:59 PM
0	The end goal of feminism is revenge, not equality. Men need to recognize this and stop playing nice. lol so she's just pretending to be by writing Blue Pill Man as the flair? That's funny because if s/he posts on other subreddits, it's hard to hide one's gender. Anyway, I see your point. It makes sense a woman would do this to defend the bluepill because after all, as I continuously say here, bluepilled women don't exist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 02:59 PM
2	The end goal of feminism is revenge, not equality. Men need to recognize this and stop playing nice. This is a terminally online take. Talk to any fat woman and find out how often people make unsolicited comments about her weight. No, you're just putting words in my mouth and acting like I said something I didn't say. I never said all fat women were seen this way. I know exactly how you're construing me and it's just false, and in service of your intellectual dishonesty in an attempt to neuter my ability to make any point. I'm not one of those people who think that everyone thinks like wokes ju…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 02:55 PM
-1	The end goal of feminism is revenge, not equality. Men need to recognize this and stop playing nice. I know, Bluepilled is in his flair lol. I don't think I'm going to convince him to not be Bluepilled anymore. I wrote the reply so other people like you might see it. I mean imagine identifying as Bluepilled lol, the fact it's an embrace of false delusion is literally in the name and origin of this term.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 02:52 PM
5	The end goal of feminism is revenge, not equality. Men need to recognize this and stop playing nice. Because you're politically moderate and ultimately affirm and reify the constructs of property, money, class, and mental diagnoses, which exist due to and revolve around the enforcement of the former ones. And what I said about atrocities of the U.S. (and any country in the West — of course I'm not saying the USSR was any better, in fact it too was horrific) medical/mental/institution/prison system that in the general mindset of the public aren't sufficiently acknowledged enough is just provable…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 02:46 PM
0	The end goal of feminism is revenge, not equality. Men need to recognize this and stop playing nice. No, it's not that simple. Of course there is truth to what you're saying. To an extent the disparities are biological, but they are also historically and socially conditioned, and the two interpolate with each other. This is almost never acknowledged, because acknowledging it potentially challenges society, and so usually people are intellectually dishonest about it, like your reply. The private possession of a commodity necessary to man, the lower cost of living for women, are the natural cause…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 02:44 PM
3	Men are entirely lacking in knowing how to sexually satisfy women Agreed. Women do have a refractory period, but it's really not comparable to the refractory period that men have. When men orgasm, the refractory period is much longer, and the successive orgasms are less intense as the previous ones. As I said, the key difference with women is that if anything, their successive orgasms can be better and more intense. So the refractory period can't be compared because a man's build-up declines, whereas, despite the woman potentially having a refractory period, a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 02:38 PM
5	The end goal of feminism is revenge, not equality. Men need to recognize this and stop playing nice. Exactly. And don't get me started on the "mental health" side of things, it's a perfect example of men suffering disparately compared to women. Of course, women tremendously suffer from this too, but overall, men are just the more relevant element in society. We are the ones who work and provide. We are the ones who go to war. We are the ones who potentially become violent revolt against society, its institutions and rulers. Therefore, by default, men are a potential greater threat. The purpose …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 02:24 PM
3	The end goal of feminism is revenge, not equality. Men need to recognize this and stop playing nice. Extremely harsh beauty standards for men, while women no longer face beauty standards. He didn't word this one well, but if you give it the benefit of the doubt, a true point emerges. There is actually an element where, especially with developments recently, women are not held to the same standards as men when it comes to physical appearances. His general points about women not being held to the same pressures and standards naturally applies to physical beauty standards, just as it does in all k…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 02:19 PM
-6	The end goal of feminism is revenge, not equality. Men need to recognize this and stop playing nice. This just completely misses his point about the way male sexuality is demonized. Merely for having sexual desire, men are often falsely labelled as lustful, creepy, or potentially a stalker, harasser, or rapist to women. Even if they are none of these things and show no signs of it, it is literally justified purely on the basis of them being man, to the point they justify the subversion of innocent until proven guilty from false harassment/stalking/rape accusations from women to men. On the othe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 02:13 PM
10	The end goal of feminism is revenge, not equality. Men need to recognize this and stop playing nice. Basically, what you have said here is just true. It mostly amounts to observations that are easily noted for anyone who isn't covered by layers of delusion and denial. I agree with points 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, and 9 without further qualifiers necessary. (others I can't, like 4 where you say "zero resources to help men") They're painting you like you're crazy, and of course one could rationally argue your framing can be generalizing, simplistic, or hyperbolic in places, to the point you make some statem…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 02:01 PM
-1	The end goal of feminism is revenge, not equality. Men need to recognize this and stop playing nice. This explains everything. And it's not a competition about which one is more "oppressed" in society. Actually capitalist society makes both men and women suffer in disparate ways. Obviously, Feminists are not wrong in everything they say, because they often shed light on some issues where women do suffer disparately compared to men. (But will not acknowledge the ways men suffer disparately in the very same situation: for example, women have to worry about abortions being banned, whereas men can …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 01:56 PM
1	Men are entirely lacking in knowing how to sexually satisfy women Another way that women vary is that not all women would tell him, like his former partner he mentioned, that she only wanted penetrative sex and didn't want fingering or oral "because she told me she can get herself off. So why would she want me to finger her or give her oral." That's not a good sign to me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 01:27 PM
1	Men are entirely lacking in knowing how to sexually satisfy women Yes, this was just what I was saying. Most women need clitoral stimulation to orgasm, (and even the ones who may say they don't need it to enjoy sex as much as they could, with multiple deliberately attained orgasms) because the clitoris corresponds to the head of the penis in men and it the most sensitive area for women. It was wrong of his previous partner to insist he only pleasure her with penetrative sex, and to not finger or do oral on her "because I can do that myself." (his exact words w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 01:24 PM
1	Men are entirely lacking in knowing how to sexually satisfy women How do you reliably (close to 100%) make a woman cum/orgasm from ONLY piv without foreplay/oral/fingering. I would say this is a false question of sorts, because in fact many women need stimulation beyond penetration to orgasm. In fact most women do. Even the women who can orgasm through penetration alone would certainly prefer to also have clitoral stimulation; it's just necessary for a man to know how and be able to do this to really be able to please a woman, like when she has multiple succes…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 01:11 PM
1	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes Every group which possesses anything which is necessary to the health and well-being of any other group, is bound to be pursued, wooed, bribed, paid. The monopolistic class, or sex, in turn, learns to withhold, to barter, to become "uncertain, coy and hard to please," to enhance and raise the price of her commodity, even though the economic basis of the transaction be utterly concealed or disguised. All this is exactly as natural and inevitable as a group of wage workers demanding all they can g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 12:33 PM
1	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes No shoe dealer in the darkest side street of the smallest village but hopes some day to leave his dingy shop behind and to climb into the class economically above him. He counts himself a man of business, and thinks and acts and goes down to failure, individualistically. He hates and fears his competitors, ascribes most of his wrongs to them or to the highly paid skilled workers, and apes and envies the men whom he sees rising to wealth in the economic conflict. As a sex, women occupy a position…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 12:33 PM
1	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes We have often heard discussions of the reason we do not find women, as a sex, in the vanguard of world affairs; why the great educators, strong figures in progressive or revolutionary movements, are men rather than women; why these movements, themselves, are made up almost entirely of men rather than women. People have asked over and over again why, in the fields of the arts, the sciences, in the world of "practical affairs," men, rather than women, generally excel. We believe the answer lies in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 12:32 PM
1	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes Nothing I said in my above reply implied that. And in general, I never said that. I in fact have already made a point of saying the opposite in my replies to you. I do not blame women at all, not individual women, much less all women as a collective. That's not what I'm saying at all. You might as well not read anything I wrote, because you'd insist on this complete mischaracterization regardless. Here is a revelation: the problem is not me, nor is it to be blamed on women. I know this is imposs…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 12:31 PM
3	Men are entirely lacking in knowing how to sexually satisfy women Agreed, that's what I was saying. I even made an attempt to concisely break down why this matters and what it looks like here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 12:27 PM
2	Men are entirely lacking in knowing how to sexually satisfy women OP is correct the only true way is through practice and experience. To a large extent, I would argue the internet can help though. There is a commonly shared book called "The Multi Orgasmic Man" but I don't agree with all of it. The author talks like a typical doctor at this point who tells men to use a condom in all cases, and even says men should use a condom even with a long-time trusted partner when there are other options for birth control (I myself already got a vasectomy) specifically to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 12:21 PM
2	Men are entirely lacking in knowing how to sexually satisfy women I don't think OP was giving advice as much as shedding light on the phenomena that many men are not educated about how to please a woman as they could be, even with the help of the internet making it easier to learn how than ever. OP didn't come off as embellished here. I agree with him and think this post is worthwhile. It can lead to productive conversation. (among men; women would of course be correct to agree with what OP said, but it's something of a given at this point. I also suspect many…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 12:16 PM
6	Men are entirely lacking in knowing how to sexually satisfy women Is a hugely ignored part of relationships sexual satisfaction? Yes, you're definitely correct with what you're saying here. The only thing left is to go in detail as to why this is the case. The only way to please a woman as a man is to do the following. He has to really know what he's doing through practice, but also specifically be in tune with the woman he is with, because everyone is different. To have a high attention span and self-discipline. When men orgasm, their libido drops, but basica…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 12:11 PM
1	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes The extent to which things have not gone well for me proves the bluepill wrong. And you aren't even maintaining pretense of it being rational or corresponding to reality at this point, because you're actively being mocking, malicious, condescending, and sarcastic. Bluepilled women do not exist. You all know that the bluepill is wrong. The only people who are sincerely bluepilled are the most naïve men, and it's because of their life circumstance where they did something like marry their girlfrie…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 11:58 AM
1	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes I already addressed the fact that nobody cares. But that is not the same thing as them judging virgins and life being harder for virgins, in the relevant social scenarios where this holds true. You're being intellectually dishonest right now to act otherwise.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 11:39 AM
1	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes When did I ever demonstrate in your mind that I was unwilling to listen to reason? I literally have done the opposite by acknowledging that I also disagree with most blackpilled types for the reasons I stated, making a point of explaining how they are stubborn and simplistic and won't listen to reason, based on my own experience talking to them. Most people wouldn't even do this, but I have. You repeatedly state that the blackpill is wrong, I simply ask you to explain why it is wrong, and you wi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 10:29 AM
1	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes Just explain why you disagree with it. What else is the point of replying? You just repeated yourself that you think it's idiotic without explaining why, then generalized blackpilled people as not listening to reason and coming up with false justifications after the fact about why their notions are true. This does not actually make any point as to why you think they are wrong, which it seems you would need to offer examples at this point to do, unless you want to explain it in a general way. Her…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 10:03 AM
1	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes Weed and drug culture is a product of the CIA. When it took off in the 60's, it was an astroturf from the start, as was all of the music. The CIA was not only involved with the music bands and culture, but also Timothy Leary himself. Everything about society that appears "rebellious" is a complete astroturf. If it was genuinely rebellious, it would have overthrown things by now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 09:58 AM
1	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes Know yourself. Be yourself. Be vulnerable. Don't worry about what others think. Just be confident bro. Be a good person.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 09:56 AM
2	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes So let’s bring up being a good person more. You're completely bluepilled. You might as well change your flair to read, Bluepilled Man	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 09:55 AM
1	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes No. It's not because they don't "trust" men, but it says so much about the modern western liberal paradigm you view everything in that you default to this assumption. It's because, like most cultures and people throughout the world, they simply do not have the concept of men and women being friends. I love men but I choose to avoid dating single men. I only befriend men after I’ve made friends with their partners, and their partners come first. Again, this is another retarded western thing. "I o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 09:53 AM
1	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes OK. That's fine. Anyway, your reply simply denied the extent to which many women actively dislike and are repelled by men who are virgins. Obviously, I can easily concede that many men could exaggerate this, and it would not necessarily matter that much, depending on the circumstance; however, it's certainly not to be downplayed either, and even the men who would potentially exaggerate it are not necessarily saying that it would make the man unable to find success, but just unreasonably more dif…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 09:48 AM
1	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes Just wanted to reply to say you're spot on. But all bluepilled types here are idiots, I won't even write whether bluepilled men or bluepilled women are worse, but there it is. I'm going to have to transition to a male only space because this is unbearable lol, but I'm here not in spite but because there is everyone right now, sometimes it's good to get a reminder about how dishonest and shitty women who have pretense of talking about all of this for its own sake really are. It's one thing that e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 09:45 AM
1	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes No. Many women would whole heartedly agree with the statement, and say that women and men can't be friends the way bluepilled liberals like you pretend they can be.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 09:43 AM
1	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes Exactly. As demonstrated by the fact that women constantly give terrible dating advice. I could go on about why this is the case, but simply put it's basically for the same reason that women often say the opposite of what they want, and expect men to know this and do the opposite of what they say, or to do something without them having to say it in the first place. Them giving bad dating advice is like a macrocosmic version of this principle, where they want more men to be confused, or to filter…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 09:38 AM
1	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes Exactly. I've never met someone who affirms the possibility of men having female friends who wasn't bluepilled. I don't even agree with redpilled guys in the final analysis, but their general inclination to cynicism couldn't be more justified. If anything, they can be reserved in their cynicism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 09:35 AM
1	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes Of course. But why are you "purplepilled" then?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 09:35 AM
1	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes No one with a brain would ever take anything a self identified bluepilled woman says here seriously.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 09:33 AM
1	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes Not in the eyes of society, it's not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 09:32 AM
1	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes This is just a lie. People don't "care" in the sense they care about you and your life, obviously it's not that, but by framing it this way you're just being intellectually dishonest. They do "care" in the sense they will judge you for it, which is the relevant matter a hand you're just a liar to deny.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 09:31 AM
1	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes Would you prefer someone that hasn't been with any, well past the normal age for a man to lose his virginity? (say, late 20's or anywhere in his 30's)	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 09:30 AM
1	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes Are you so dense that you fail to understand that even if a man genuinely doesn't care about what others think, they're still affected by the thoughts and judgements of others in society? Does it occur to you that this can affect their potential to be hired for a job, accepted into social circles, accepted enough as an individual to successfully socialize and make friends, let alone accepted enough to be accepted by a potential date?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 09:27 AM
1	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes You wouldn't say this to a woman who was a virgin, you'd respect that she said it was important for her to have sex if she said it was.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 09:26 AM
2	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes Exactly. Anyone saying women simply have it worse than men in the modern West is full of shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 09:25 AM
2	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes "Blackpilled" types often think idiotic things, but you can't dismiss it out of hand as idiotic. Just merely stating something is idiotic without explaining why is not an argument, it communicates nothing. (Unless it's actually just obviously completely idiotic to anyone with a minimum of common sense, like Liberals who think Trump winning in the 2024 election will make the USA Christian Fascism and "destroy democracy as we know it." You can't claim the blackpill mindset is that stupid. Furtherm…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 09:04 AM
1	Question For Women, Which Of These Men Would You Rather Get Into A Relationship With? We have often heard discussions of the reason we do not find women, as a sex, in the vanguard of world affairs; why the great educators, strong figures in progressive or revolutionary movements, are men rather than women; why these movements, themselves, are made up almost entirely of men rather than women. People have asked over and over again why, in the fields of the arts, the sciences, in the world of "practical affairs," men, rather than women, generally excel. We believe the answer lies in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 02:38 AM
1	Question For Women, Which Of These Men Would You Rather Get Into A Relationship With? It’s a 5’2 vs 5’8, $60k vs $0k thing for me… You're petit bourgeois and everything comes down to money, just as is the case with all women. I hate this entire thing but don't particularize and isolate or blame women, much less viewing them as the cause or the issue, which would be the only way to justify blaming them, individually or as a collective. But the fact is you will simply never adopt a consistent mindset that will deconstruct and demystify society to the point of seeing just how unnece…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 02:33 AM
1	Question For Women, Which Of These Men Would You Rather Get Into A Relationship With? Paul is much socially better off than Jake. While it says both play video games, it makes a point of saying that Paul is interested in music, art, and even is athletic enough to make a hobby out of playing sports. None of this is true for Jake. The only interest or hobby mentioned for Jake is video games. Everything gives the impression Paul is the more interesting person. Jake happens to be slightly taller and to have more money, but in every other sense, Paul is more attractive, including in t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 02:10 AM
2	Question For Women, Which Of These Men Would You Rather Get Into A Relationship With? Properly balancing attractiveness and long-term partner viability, the clear order is Adam, then Paul, then Josh, then Jake. I put Adam at the top because he is the most attractive and lacks the mental instability and physical disability Josh has. I put Paul second, because unlike Josh, he is able to exercise and even enjoys sports; in reality the biggest downside with Paul is in fact not "high functioning autism" which I almost think OP may have deliberately snuck in there as a red herring, nor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 01:47 AM
2	Question For Women, Which Of These Men Would You Rather Get Into A Relationship With? lol you must be right that at least one of them must be closer to being autobiographical to him than the others. Actually it's comically obvious that Josh and Adam are not him and written in contradistinction, because they read like crude approximations of what "right-wing" guys are like from within the mind of a young educated middle-class liberal guy. (which is obviously what he is) Especially Adam. There's still a lot of bizarre nuances I notice as I read it more, like the fact that he makes …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 01:29 AM
2	Question For Women, Which Of These Men Would You Rather Get Into A Relationship With? Exactly. You get it. I think OP understood this too and that was the point. He knew exactly what he was doing when he described Josh as "politically right" but Adam as "a big Donald Trump supporter." It's pretty funny lol. You can tell he thought about this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 01:22 AM
2	Question For Women, Which Of These Men Would You Rather Get Into A Relationship With? At the end of the day I wouldn’t choose any of these men so what’s the problem? It's just a hypothetical. It's a would you rather, in other words, if you had to choose one. Which would you choose if you had to choose one, in other words, which is the least bad given the combined combination of traits for each in relation to the other ones? I consider anyone who says they’re a centrist to truly be right wing in disguise or just not confident enough in their beliefs to outright say it. You can thi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 01:15 AM
2	Question For Women, Which Of These Men Would You Rather Get Into A Relationship With? lets date the kind of men who hit women and not make them hit me How has that been going so far?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 11:19 PM
1	Question For Women, Which Of These Men Would You Rather Get Into A Relationship With? its mostly women faults men hit them And what do you think about female victims of rape?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 11:13 PM
2	Question For Women, Which Of These Men Would You Rather Get Into A Relationship With? Would you be saying in the moment he was actually hitting you? You do not sound like the least likely person to find yourself or to already have been in a situation where your partner is physically abusing you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 11:09 PM
3	Question For Women, Which Of These Men Would You Rather Get Into A Relationship With? I don't care about his domestic abuse He has a proven track record of hitting his previous wife multiple times, and you don't even take this into consideration? (I'm not necessarily saying it's enough to rule it out because OP carefully wrote "on a couple of occasions," but also says he still has the issues that led to him doing this, is generally very high strung, gets irritated and is in a bad mood 20% of the time or 1/5 of life — so there is at least a solid chance he would do it again) Would…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 11:07 PM
1	Question For Women, Which Of These Men Would You Rather Get Into A Relationship With? You're too ignorant to know the difference or even consider distinguishing at all between high functioning autism and severe autism, and furthermore obviously wouldn't understand that in many cases (such as mine, I was diagnosed when I was still a child) the individual diagnosed as high functioning autistic isn't even autistic at all to the point the very concept of autism deserves questioning, (especially given how much of the population diagnosed autistic falls under this category i.e. Asperge…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 11:01 PM
2	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes A lot of people would read it in bad-faith, like I was just straight out of the actual incel forum. (which, incidentally, is largely comprised of guys who migrated from reddit because with the exception of ForeverAlone and FA30plus, every incel subreddit has been systematically banned, even incelswithouthate — need I say more? I will, look at how reddit responds when you point out their hypocrisy in the face of the subreddits they leave up.) Regardless, I sincerely do think that they would be ri…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 10:58 PM
1	Question For Women, Which Of These Men Would You Rather Get Into A Relationship With? As someone who was falsely diagnosed autistic when I was still a god damn child in elementary/middle school (how could the idiots who diagnosed me even know if I was "autistic" at such a young age?) but is definitely not autistic because now I am 28 and know I don't struggle socially, (a defining trait of autism is issues with social interactions that go well beyond awkwardness that can be overcome with practice, even in cases of high functioning autism there is basically something that autistic…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 10:46 PM
3	Question For Women, Which Of These Men Would You Rather Get Into A Relationship With? bitch please. None of ya'll would date a guy that height irl, especially when he's an autist on top of that. A lot of women would be more willing to date shorter guys if the only alternative was a fat one. Also, beyond weight and height Paul is more attractive (Jake has a baby face, we can assume Paul has a more ordinary face for a man his age) and is more talented with more engaging interests and hobbies including the arts, sports and music. (whereas only video games are mentioned for Jake) Als…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 10:32 PM
2	Question For Women, Which Of These Men Would You Rather Get Into A Relationship With? Fair enough, you don't want to deal with him having a child from a previous marriage. This only leaves you with two possibilities: either Josh both being physically disabled to the point he can't exercise, having irritability issues and having a history of domestic abuse to women (though not excessively, "a couple of occasions" with one wife in the past) is not a deal-breaker, and you go with him. Or you go with Paul or Jake. Paul is quite short at 5'2 and has the least prospects for money and a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 10:28 PM
3	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes "stay healthy weight" it's the same sort of rhetoric. I don't identify as "blackpilled" (though I maintain that the blackpill is more accurate than the redpill, given that it's critical to it) nor is my comment to be read as a straightforward affirmation of the mindset of blackpilled incels, as if I was one of them or identified with their mindset. I deliberately conveyed their mindset, which obviously can often be reductive, simplistic, hyperbolic and at odds with reality, to shine light on the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 10:02 PM
6	Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypes Don't worry about how to attract women or what is attractive to them Just be confident bro Dating apps aren't reflective of women Just find a woman you have chemistry with Dress well. Groom. Shower. Be in shape. Just hit the gym bro Attractiveness doesn't matter that much. It's just about finding that special someone Don't be discouraged by rejection bro	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 09:57 PM
1	Question For Women, Which Of These Men Would You Rather Get Into A Relationship With? You may not like any of them, but the question is "would you rather" i.e. if you had to choose one. Some are very clearly worse than others, and it's telling if a woman couldn't be honest about this. Adam is clearly better than the other three, and I feel like OP deliberately subtly put in the "Trump supporter" point for Adam to see if women in the comments would pedantically hone in on that, whereas Josh instead reads "right wing." (meaning he at least has no issue with Trump) And the fact Adam…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 09:40 PM
1	Question For Women, Which Of These Men Would You Rather Get Into A Relationship With? You say Adam is out because he's a Trump supporter, but Josh himself is right-wing. Adam is better in every way than Josh, besides the fact that he has a son from a previous marriage and earns 35K less yearly. Adam is really the only right answer given that Josh is disabled and has a history of abuse, and Paul and Jake are unattractive. Only women that like overweight guys and gamers would consider going for Jake, and Paul has autism, is also a gamer, and has the least money. Also, he never said…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 09:37 PM
2	Question For Women, Which Of These Men Would You Rather Get Into A Relationship With? So Josh is right-wing but not a Trump supporter? Anyway, it almost reads like you wrote this for Adam to be the most viable option. Josh is physically disabled because he can't work out, is irritable, and has a history of domestic abuse. Paul is unattractive, short, has autism, is a slob, doesn't have money or a dependable career track, and is sexually inexperienced. Jake is unattractive and fat, and unlike Josh, can lose weight and exercise, but simply chooses not to due to his personality. The…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 09:03 PM
5	Us women always have orbiters, yes us older ones too Exactly. They're just like "it worked for me. I don't see the big deal, I don't know what red/blackpilled guys are talking about." They're just projecting their convenient individual experience as universal, as if it could apply to everyone else, and doing nothing but defending society and women in the process.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 07:40 PM
6	Us women always have orbiters, yes us older ones too I like respectful, feminist leaning, non toxic guys This is r/PurplePillDebate, not "women demanding validation from women and bluepilled men" (and again, your post is obviously not a debate.) (Yes, I wrote it that way because I do not think "bluepilled women" as such actually exist, only women who promote it, knowing exactly what they are doing. All women know the bluepill is bullshit. Only the most naïve or disingenuous men are sincerely bluepilled.)	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 07:01 PM
2	Us women always have orbiters, yes us older ones too Because it is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 06:59 PM
4	Us women always have orbiters, yes us older ones too You think youre friends until they try to slip out of the friend zone and you realize they were never a friend to begin with Is this sentence describing the same people as your first two sentences? If so, you're saying that for some reason, up to this point, the woman in question was friends with a guy who was "disgustingly creepy" and "leagues below" her? That's unlikely. It's actually far more likely that they were merely friends and he indicated he was interested in dating her and she turned …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 06:56 PM
3	Us women always have orbiters, yes us older ones too I'm aware. You're just repeating yourself at this point. Why are you boasting about this on this subreddit, when you are only rejecting the kind of young guy who is actively pursuing overweight women in their 40's?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 06:53 PM
8	Us women always have orbiters, yes us older ones too Exactly. I couldn't agree more. The worst part is that reddit goes out of its way to affirm this, by banning harmless subreddits where men with similar experiences can convene over their shared loneliness like incelsiwthouthate, meanwhile subreddits like r/ misandry, r/ blatantmisandry, r/ nametheproblem (where many white feminists talk about black men in a manner identical to white supremacists) remain up, and reddit admins even woke scold you if you bring this up to them, as was noted in this …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 06:50 PM
5	Us women always have orbiters, yes us older ones too Exactly. The entire point of countering the bluepill is to realize that basically, women have it better than men in every way when it comes to dating and relationships, because they have more intrinsic worth in society and are the sexual selectors/rejectors. So even the unattractive, older, and fatter women will always have options, because there is guaranteed to always be a significant quantity of dejected men who will lower their standards for lack of better options available at any given time…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 05:50 PM
7	Us women always have orbiters, yes us older ones too I'm 41 a big girl You are actually just doubling-down on the things that the commenters here already figured out about you, from the fact that you would even post something like this at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 05:46 PM
1	Us women always have orbiters, yes us older ones too Nothing. That's what makes this stupid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 05:45 PM
7	Us women always have orbiters, yes us older ones too "I'm not even interested in a relationship even if I could still get it easily." doubt. Exactly. If that were so, why would she be posting here about relationships? She's obviously thinking about it and in conflict with herself about what she wants. If her dating life now or when she was younger was what she wanted and hoped for it to be, she wouldn't take time out of her day to make a coping ragebait post on r/PurplePillDebate presenting the obvious fact that women of any age can easily find a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 05:43 PM
5	Us women always have orbiters, yes us older ones too I'm saying that the young guys that actively pursue you are are not the most attractive or high-status men for their age group, because if they were, they wouldn't be doing so and would likely be pursuing attractive younger women closer to their age instead.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 05:41 PM
7	Us women always have orbiters, yes us older ones too I agree, it partially is, but I think it's more that she wants validation. She wants the women here to validate and agree with her and expects the men to fall for her ragebait, as if anything she's saying about women always having options and getting men being easy for them at any age is a shocking revelation for us, (but the question is, which men, as this guy pointed out — but as the guy I just replied to above said it swings both ways because young guys also can often lack standards on accoun…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 05:38 PM
5	Us women always have orbiters, yes us older ones too She's not, if she was she wouldn't have made this post. As a general rule of thumb when a woman brags about how easy men are to get it usually means she's struggling dating wise. Why? Because getting male attention is so easy for attractive women that they don't even really acknowledge it. The same way you don't acknowledge the oxygen you breathe until there is none left. Keep that mind when reading this post lads.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 05:35 PM
2	Us women always have orbiters, yes us older ones too They're not, they're calling it out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 05:31 PM
5	Us women always have orbiters, yes us older ones too Unfortunately she's serious and wants validation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 05:30 PM
3	Us women always have orbiters, yes us older ones too "You took 2 seconds to write a two word comment, therefore you must care." OK, now you are definitely baiting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 05:30 PM
9	Us women always have orbiters, yes us older ones too Yeah obviously, what kind of woman goes "I will take time out of my day to open reddit and post on r/PurplePillDebate" lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 05:29 PM
10	Us women always have orbiters, yes us older ones too The fact she thinks it is shows how deluded she is about her own attractiveness, you can tell by the way she talks about herself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 05:28 PM
5	Us women always have orbiters, yes us older ones too Not good-looking guys with standards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 05:28 PM
2	Us women always have orbiters, yes us older ones too An uncomfortable truth for men is that we can EASILY get dick if we want and getting a relationship only takes a little bit of effort. But especially since it's been thrown at us our whole lives, we usually don't even want it sjsjsk 😂 I think you mean "an obvious truth that any man who has spent a moment thinking about the topic has already realized," but it says a lot you feel the need to present it as a revelation in the context of yourself. I'm anti capitalist but we all need to get by! No, y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 05:23 PM
2	Why do so many guys have a seething hatred for single moms? Because they don't care about their children. And society sanctions and legitimizes neglectful, stupid parents in a way and to an extent it never has before in history.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 02:16 PM
4	Hijab IS feminist, sort of. Spot-on analysis. You're absolutely right that Liberals (Feminist or not) or Conservatives who dislike Islam are wrong to act like there's just no reason that Muslim-Feminist Liberal women in the West are a thing, and that they combine their pro-Feminist, pro-Islam, pro-Hijab mindset, and that it's completely inconsistent. They're holding up Feminism as a transhistorical ideal, and failing to note its inherently contradictory nature. You've clearly thought seriously about this subject, and are n…	/r/MensRights	10/07/24 08:21 PM
-8	Is it possible that men get raped more than women? You're wrong. Obviously, more male inmates rape other male inmates in male prisons, than female staff in male prisons rape male inmates — or female inmates in female prisons rape other female inmates. You're delusional to the point you aren't living on planet earth.	/r/MensRights	09/07/24 02:30 PM
-7	Is it possible that men get raped more than women? By other men in prison, yes, by women, no. Why are people downvoting this? This is correct. It's really not that complicated. We all know that Feminists misrepresent the reality of men raping women by misrepresenting it, subverting innocent until proven guilty so as to often affirm false accusations, and don't care about men raped by other men in prison. Though in the past, I've actually seen men on the internet (it wasn't here) say that women rape men more than men rape women, which is absurd a…	/r/MensRights	09/07/24 01:27 PM
3	Is it possible that men get raped more than women? Yes. Men are raped more than women. Because of prisons.	/r/MensRights	09/07/24 12:30 PM
18	Hating men is perfectly permitted on Reddit and the converse less so r/ blatantmisandry is totally fine — but of course they removed incelswithouthate. "...vulnerability, which doesn't pertain to white people or men" "My best advice to you would be to concentrate on your own communities..." A little hard to do that if reddit bans them, isn't it? And they justified it on the basis Liberals complained because they even said incelswithouthate "had hate" (as if the mods can control everyone on it, like just because there could have been isolated users with that, as i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/24 08:34 PM
9	Hating men is perfectly permitted on Reddit and the converse less so Yes. And this is just a reflection of society, of course, but at the same time, it can be especially bad on reddit and other social media due to the predominance of middle-class liberal progressives in the west, whose views on this are quite predictable. (also, I'm not distinguishing many people of a slightly "edgier" or less typically "politically correct" bent from this categorization of liberals: I'm certainly describing Dirtbag Leftist types here, too)	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/24 08:32 PM
–	Ethically sex shouldn’t be considered a fundamental need like food, water and shelter. Individuals are not. But that society has the inherent feature of not guaranteeing the basic necessities of living like food and shelter to everyone is intrinsically correlated to the fact that women denying men in the way they do with their standards in these times is a product of the conditions of this society.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/24 03:24 AM
–	Ethically sex shouldn’t be considered a fundamental need like food, water and shelter. Ethically sex shouldn’t be considered a fundamental need like food, water and shelter. Your underlying premise of ethics here is one that implies it's even necessary to measure things of how "humane" they are in the first place, when this isn't the case. If we place sex on the same level of needs as water food and shelter this suggests that a woman denying a stranger sex is denying him something fundamental to his survival. This creates a moral and ethical obligation to fulfil the need for sex. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/24 03:08 AM
3	Question For Red Pill: How would you feel/think about a woman from 28-35 who said she is a virgin? Let’s say, she is not lying. Yes, agreed. People in the U.S.A. absurdly overcomplicate and exaggerate how hard it is to not be overweight or lose weight if you are. (obviously because there is an industry in selling people all kinds of "weight loss" products and programs, the vitamin industry, the gym and exercise equipment industry, and even the food industry in general) The way to not be overweight is to not eat too much food. (and not excessively drinking most beverages that are not water, like soda and alcohol) It reall…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/24 02:23 PM
6	Question For Red Pill: How would you feel/think about a woman from 28-35 who said she is a virgin? Let’s say, she is not lying. It's not just that they eat less because they have less food. China and India are the two most populated countries in the world, and there is a ton of food there. There is less of a culture of gluttony than the U.S.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/24 01:17 PM
2	Have you ever known of a man who is cute, and personable yet was a #totalfail at casual sex or hookup culture? Why the fuck would I want to "succeed" at casual sex and hookup culture? That shit sucks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/24 01:15 AM
1	A lot of people on here are so enraged at women that I believe it is skewing their ability to be objective It's a bit delusional to say this is a bluepill subreddit. OK, agreed, I would not actually merely say "this is a bluepilled subreddit." I would instead argue that it leans bluepilled, with pretense of being evenly between or willing to acknowledge both. The characterization of OP is still wildly inaccurate in the face of how the subreddit clearly is, and I was right to reject it. And I can't take the "purplepill" label at all seriously in general. I see them as bluepilled people who are more wi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/24 02:47 PM
-3	A lot of people on here are so enraged at women that I believe it is skewing their ability to be objective The point of confronting things is precisely to honestly evaluate a man's general chances of success according to the relevant criteria. People really do deny or downplay the importance of looks and height in dating, and the extent to which these are the result of genetic luck and happenstance, especially in the modern west. (where we have the most abstract society in history with more people than ever before, and where more intermediaries exist in the form of a large middle-class and the oppurt…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/24 06:48 PM
-1	A lot of people on here are so enraged at women that I believe it is skewing their ability to be objective Bluepilled types will downplay and deny the extent to which looks and height matter. Redpilled types are correct about this. The fact you may have had experiences with Redpill types that reply in ways that merely state obvious things like "looks matter," potentially on the fallacious logic that you would completely deny it just because you identify as Bluepilled, does not change this. And this is also a diversion from what the Bluepilled position and viewpoint actually is, and how it differs fro…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/24 06:34 PM
-1	A lot of people on here are so enraged at women that I believe it is skewing their ability to be objective that's what I disagree with, that not buying into RP is being ignorant Why? (i.e. why is it the correct stance to "not buy into the Redpill" and its worldview — or more directly, what is the Bluepill position as you see it, and what is more actively correct about it?)	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/24 06:30 PM
-4	A lot of people on here are so enraged at women that I believe it is skewing their ability to be objective Agree with what? The blue pill means blissful ignorance, contented ordinary experience that lulls and covers over a confrontation with reality. The redpill means a confrontation with reality, even if it reveals harsh truths and shatters comforts that the blue pill entails. This is the origin of the terms, from the 1999 movie The Matrix. Are you saying you are just appropriating the terms to mean something entirely different from their origin? Even the redpill is not actually a confrontation of r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/24 06:25 PM
1	What would you describe as a man repellent outfit, hair or makeup look? Makeup.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/24 06:10 PM
2	Should DNA testing be mandatory at birth In some countries, it's even legally restricted. (France comes to mind)	/r/MensRights	03/07/24 06:01 PM
-2	A lot of people on here are so enraged at women that I believe it is skewing their ability to be objective "I don't think people are capable of being objective." -self-identified blue pilled man Are you even aware of the origin of the terms "blue pill" and "red pill?"	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/24 05:59 PM
-1	A lot of people on here are so enraged at women that I believe it is skewing their ability to be objective I've never seen the sheer amount of violent, hateful rhetoric towards men as I've seen towards women on purple pill debate This is nonsense. This is a bluepilled subreddit where you just constantly see self-identified bluepilled posters in the comments proliferate while saying the most mind numbing bullshit, that allows redpilled users, hence "purplepill debate." Both types reject the blackpill. This is just really a neoliberal chill space.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/24 05:57 PM
-3	There is nothing “creepy” or “predatory” about 30-40 year old men wanting to date or sleep with 20-25 year olds, it isn’t men’s fault women don’t age well Yes it does. If she is an adult and the age of majority or above, it's her choice who she wants to date. You know as well as I do that it would be unlikely the father who didn't approve or like the man in question would merely voice his lack of approval to the daughter, but then not act differently to her if she went against his wishes and dating the man he disapproved of regardless. You're just pretending that situations where the father exerts his control, even over a daughter of his that's an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/24 05:32 AM
-3	There is nothing “creepy” or “predatory” about 30-40 year old men wanting to date or sleep with 20-25 year olds, it isn’t men’s fault women don’t age well There are involved fathers who do not like their daughters being hit on by much older men. Imagine having a daughter, seeing her grow to adulthood in the modern west, a society where it's expected women are free to make their own choices; and then being controlling at the first sign a man shows interest in her, instead of being consistent and allowing her the agency to decide the man she wants to be with herself. And the downvoters and repliers like you are also conveniently forgetting women are…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/24 05:22 AM
-5	There is nothing “creepy” or “predatory” about 30-40 year old men wanting to date or sleep with 20-25 year olds, it isn’t men’s fault women don’t age well but people generally do not like the idea of much older men pursuing much younger women "people" i.e. the men who couldn't get those young women themselves, and the women who wouldn't have been among the younger women that older men successful enough to get them wanted when they were that age. Why else would someone reflexively not like it or think there is something inherently wrong with it? Especially if the couple in question is happy, anyone having an issue with it is a romance cop, as if an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/24 01:46 AM
1	Wouldn’t a great leveler of no fault divorce be mandatory prenups? Yes, that's part of it. But it's more after-the-fact e.g. the divorce lawyers profit from this arrangement and make careers from it. They are all of course middle-class, and indeed the main problem is the middle-class itself. This sort of reminds me of people against vaccine mandates (obviously also my stance and that of anyone reasonable) who say the only reason they are in place are "the profits of the pharmaceutical industry." Of course, this is a factor, and an indispensable one, but it's a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/24 09:12 PM
0	Wouldn’t a great leveler of no fault divorce be mandatory prenups? This is idealism. It isn't like this because it isn't expedient to the system, and if it was it would be because it's expedient to the system. ("So what you're just saying that we shouldn't" — I'm not opposed to improving the life of the proletariat within capitalism, nor reform on some vulgar accelerationist principle. I'm saying that this issue should be analyzed from the place of a demystified, negative critique because if the reforms you advocate were to come about, it could only become part…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/24 09:04 PM
1	Why is popularity and social standing in a partner so much more important to women? Women are the sexual selectors. Men settle. Women don't. Of course this doesn't mean that all women will refuse to be with anyone but the man of the highest attractiveness level/social status. (this is naturally only attainable for the women in the upper echelon of attractiveness.) But all women will at least strive to be with the highest threshold of what is attainable for them. (in accordance with her own level of physical attractiveness.) A woman lowering her standards (by her own standards —…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/24 02:30 PM
5	Why is reddit outside this sub so unhelpful? They're liberals, of course. This is reddit.	/r/MensRights	27/06/24 12:14 PM
7	WHY ARE MEN OFTEN OVERLOOKED AS VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC ABUSE? This is why.	/r/MensRights	26/06/24 05:23 PM
9	Tired of feeling like I have to prove myself as worthy to women https://i.ibb.co/p3Fft90/how2atttractyourlifepartner.png	/r/MensRights	26/06/24 05:14 PM
7	Why do men say women who are objectively attractive are ugly/mid? "The man, who weds a beautiful woman, measures a mark for every libertine's lechery. But he who marries a plain one, marries lechery itself. The former will find it an arduous task to preserve inviolated his private property in the object of public lust. And how wretched must be the fate of the latter, to be confined to the society of one, whom none else would condescend to couple with! However upon the whole there may be, perhaps, much less misery annexed to the possession of a homely wife, tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/24 07:33 PM
13	Why do men say women who are objectively attractive are ugly/mid? It's far more likely for men to think unattractive women are attractive, or average women are more attractive than they are. This is the real thing. I'm not being embellished like Andrew Tate would be about it, and going on about how they're "coping" but the basic point would be correct that they are settling and even potentially lowering their standards in the sense they could do better, and after starting the relationship convincing themselves she's more attractive than she really is. (of cour…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/24 07:33 PM
4	Besides looks, what trait are you MOST attracted to in a man? They want Chad thunderc*ck the finance banker who also has unlimited free time "You mean you aren't a millionaire and a Chad at 25? Loser. Sounds like you aren't getting any hot women. Go back to your 9 - 5 and playing video games!" -Andrew Tate	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/24 08:38 PM
2	Besides looks, what trait are you MOST attracted to in a man? A bad boy...with a purpose.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/24 08:36 PM
2	Besides looks, what trait are you MOST attracted to in a woman? Definitely just having a good personality. That's a big turn-on. A simple litmus test: how they treat strangers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/24 08:30 PM
1	Men who are trying to "woo" a woman (by working out, getting hobbies, dressing better, being charismatic/funny, getting rich, etc.) need to ask themselves if a girl would ever do that to get him. Here's your post in an image. Everything you said is true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/24 11:20 PM
0	women who complain about dating only have themselves to blame This is such an obvious deflection from any thought and criticism, and you are obviously biased against men and are making a false equivalency when you say "people who constantly complain about the other gender" as if the criticisms men have of the dating scene are value-neutral and equivalent to that of feminists who make complaints based on their false generalizations and stereotypes about men. (needless to say, many men are guilty of reductively or falsely generalizing and stereotyping women.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/24 12:28 PM
9	Women will defend women no matter what Oh, they've been redefining a ton of things, this is the tip of the iceberg.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/24 07:15 PM
8	Does the "Patriarchy" Harm Boys? It's a product of human activity, and nature, as is everything, but usually when people say "capitalism was "made" by all of humanity" they are just trying to level ruling-class interests as the same as the interests of the majority of people, implying it was not only merely "made" by "everyone" but also perpetuated evenly by everyone, to conflate ruling-class interests and responsibility to that of everyone, when this is not true. Marx begins the Communist Manifesto by explaining that the bourg…	/r/MensRights	20/06/24 12:01 AM
11	Does the "Patriarchy" Harm Boys? Read this. No one person "made" it. It arose due to historic and material necessity, but we are still living in it because the ruling-class wants to consolidate their exclusive wealth and power. And it's not merely a nebulous "system," capitalism is a mode of production that pervades everything in society. It's the means of production and distribution of resources, so defines how every person living in it lives, shaping both their lives and themselves as individuals. Capitalism is defined by pri…	/r/MensRights	19/06/24 11:42 PM
13	Does the "Patriarchy" Harm Boys? Explaining what he meant by "naturally" because you made it clear you didn't understand.	/r/MensRights	19/06/24 11:34 PM
16	Does the "Patriarchy" Harm Boys? No, I just explained what he meant by "naturally" in the sentence. He simply said "and naturally men socially are encouraged to work the ladder" because it's expected of men, and something obvious that we are all aware of, that men are expected to work and prioritize careers and money over their interests in a way that women are not. That was why he wrote "naturally." He didn't mean it's a "natural choice for men" (as you said in your reply) in the sense of something to simply be affirmed as a p…	/r/MensRights	19/06/24 11:03 PM
19	Does the "Patriarchy" Harm Boys? He wasn't defending the system being this way or affirming it as "natural," he's obviously criticizing it. He said that because it's run in the interests of the rich, and because men are the ones who are generally expected to work and provide, obviously this means that men are pressured to pursue money-making careers to the exception to the things that may actually matter to them, in a way that women are not.	/r/MensRights	19/06/24 09:39 PM
0	What are some reasons for still being a virgin that would be a red flag? If you concede sex isn't that great, then why are you defending the fact that people judge people, just because they happen to have never had it yet? If it's not that great, then it's not a big deal, therefore there is no rational reason to judge someone for not having ever had it yet. I also never said that I feel like killing myself sometimes because I'm not having sex. (I never even said I felt like killing myself, I merely proposed the event of killing myself as a hypothetical to drive home …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/24 04:22 AM
-1	What are some reasons for still being a virgin that would be a red flag? The "rules" of society are bad and should be criticized. Doing this is not the same thing as simply bemoaning the basis for the way it is as "unfair." Anyone who justifies society is dishonest and inconsistent, because society is so blatantly bad and built on enforcing abstractions. (Such as property ownership. All the homeless people despite the abundance of resources. It's one example of numerous manufactured problems. But we are just made to accept it. Would you say "c'est la vie" to all the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/24 04:14 AM
3	What are some reasons for still being a virgin that would be a red flag? Sexism is reproduced in the structure of society, but this does not mean that you, as an individual, have to harbor the double-standard and affirm it. By admitting it's a double standard, you are admitting it's erroneous. I'm not "complaining about society being unfair" (I say "society" and not "life" because society is not the same thing as life itself, capitalism is not tantamount to the human condition) but I am saying that it's just plain incorrect to assume that a man being a virgin reflect…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/24 03:55 AM
8	What are some reasons for still being a virgin that would be a red flag? What an obvious sexist double-standard.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/24 03:41 AM
1	I genuinely can't understand men who try to coax/convince a woman to give him a chance, even after he has been rejected. Like, not all guys do this, but men who have done, it, where’s the infamous male ego? Few guys do this. Most accept rejection and move on. And even most who have trouble accepting the rejection and take more time to, know that still trying to pursue that with the woman who rejected them would be fruitless. I'm not saying the phenomena you described doesn't exist, just that it isn't to be exaggerated, or merely conflated to situations where the guy in question just tries to continue talking to the woman at all. (I think many would interpret even this as "still trying to get a chan…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/24 08:50 PM
2	Why don't more men read womens' romance novels? The stuff they read is precisely the things they can't do in real life. That's why they read books that have things like this in them. It's fantasizing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/24 05:50 PM
2	Why do women hate when their male friends confess feelings to them? Yet they never point out that the woman in question was stringing the guy along because she was getting something out of the "friendship" in the first place, and likely knew or at least suspected he was interested in him all along. Saying "he was just interested in sex" is just a way of covering this. As you noted, he is especially likely to be interested in a real relationship and not just sex if he realized he had feelings at some point between meeting her and confessing them. And other women …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/24 04:20 PM
3	Why do women hate when their male friends confess feelings to them? Just let the women make it clear she is attracted first It's not that simple. Women are generally passive and wouldn't take the initiative to make that clear by just saying it. Instead, she would signal it in indirect ways, and it would be up to the guy to pick up on that, or not. But as others in the thread were saying, the very fact that she established from the start they were friends to begin with makes it less likely that she is interested in dating him at all. But if the guy is single, the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/24 04:09 PM
-4	Why do women hate when their male friends confess feelings to them? Why were you friends with him in the first place?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/24 03:55 PM
5	Why do most female predators and teachers get off punishment so easily? THE MARRIAGE CONTRACT Of course, every one knows that marriage is a legal contract; but whom does it bind? Certainly not the woman, nor any woman in America. For she may easily free herself and even divorce and penalize her husband if she is dissatisfied either with him or his earnings; or she may evade all the obligations she is supposed to meet, almost always with absolute impunity. Whatever she may do or leave undone in the marriage relation, if it but be with sufficient pretense and discreti…	/r/MensRights	12/06/24 08:31 PM
1	An annoying, feminist propaganda chess channel on youtube Women are not mistreated. Men are. Oh come on, this is just typical reductionism and black-and-white, all or nothing thinking. This is as incorrect as Feminists who would say, "Men are not mistreated. Only women are." In reality, both men and women are mistreated in different ways. More on this later, but overall I think men are more mistreated and that women are favored, to the extent that almost no women are revolutionary, because the social system gives advantage to them. "As a sex, women hav…	/r/MensRights	11/06/24 10:57 PM
1	An annoying, feminist propaganda chess channel on youtube You're saying women are driven away by toxic male behavior. Therefore you're saying Jews are driven away by antisemitism. But we know the truth is the opposite. I never said that. And I certainly never said that. I merely said that it would be reductive and false to act like there was 0% truth to what the Feminist guy that OP was criticizing was saying about there being men who mistreat women in chess spaces. But that because the Feminist guy exaggerates and misrepresents the situation, this mak…	/r/MensRights	11/06/24 06:35 PM
1	An annoying, feminist propaganda chess channel on youtube It's not the case that there are no women in chess, that isn't what the feminist guy that OP is criticizing was saying.	/r/MensRights	11/06/24 01:56 AM
3	An annoying, feminist propaganda chess channel on youtube Come on, he just made a post talking about it. He isn't helping him or giving him money by just bringing it up. Yes, obviously it is true in a general sense that, especially on the internet, any mentioning or attention to something, even if it's critical or negative, can help make someone more popular. But this is one post on a Men's Right's subreddit so it's not even a great example of that. And it doesn't even matter if people were to read this and then check out his videos, it's like so what,…	/r/MensRights	10/06/24 11:07 PM
2	An annoying, feminist propaganda chess channel on youtube I hate shit like this precisely because there is truth to him saying that in Chess scenes, there are men that are shitty to women, and there's nothing wrong with acknowledging and critiquing it in a reasonable manner to the extent it actually exists. But for reasons that need no introduction here, he goes out of his way to misrepresent and exaggerate the situation due to the biases from his Feminist, Liberal-progressive world outlook and culture. Now, it makes it even harder to properly acknowle…	/r/MensRights	10/06/24 11:05 PM
–	I think some men are jealous of women with high body count… because it means they have more life experience than them. Or, is it possible that a man could simply not want to be with a woman with a high body count, because it is very likely to reflect on her character and indicates there is a high chance she is promiscuous in the present, and will impulsively leave him for another man if he is invested in the relationship with her? Does it have to be because he is "conservative," "slut-shaming," "jealous," or anything else?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/24 08:06 PM
3	YouTube is blatantly misandrist. Well naturally, trans women and gay men belong to the oppressed. But cishet men aren't oppressed and hence can't claim oppression. In fact, they belong to the class of the oppressors /s	/r/MensRights	09/06/24 11:37 AM
1	Our culture’s trashing of boys and men is having toxic consequences The capitalist conditions of social production force the working class to accept its exploitation as the only way to secure its livelihood. The immediate needs of the worker can only be satisfied by submitting to these conditions and their reflection in the ruling ideology. Generally, he will accept one with the other, as representative of the real world, which cannot be defied except by suicide. An escape from bourgeois ideology will not alter his actual position in society and is at best a lux…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/24 09:01 PM
2	Our culture’s trashing of boys and men is having toxic consequences Oh not this again. This is completely disingenuous and erroneous. I've had people say the same exact thing in the same context before. This is such a typical Leftist response to when I note the middle-class nature of the Left, and their obvious alienation from and hostility to the working-class. The Left is the Left wing of capital. This is why the working-class has never liked the Left, and never will. What is true is that the working-class in the U.S. does lean progressive in terms of issues l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/24 09:00 PM
1	Our culture’s trashing of boys and men is having toxic consequences Or on the other hand maybe we should not do anything to discourage it, and actually just let it get worse. I mean, these people aren't going anywhere and everything is just getting worse anyway. I'm honestly skeptical to most people criticizing it even though the bare recognition that it's bad goes without saying: they're ultimately seeking to placate men, I think. Maybe just let the men bashers, the worst liberal-progressives, feminists, white knights etc., these people who just absolutely loat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/24 08:13 PM
1	3-year-old dies after being stabbed by a 32 year old woman. It's not, because people who exhibit this hyper-focused concern on news stories about individual children they didn't know being murdered are frankly idiots. It's a surrogate activity. Actually, at worst, it's often even pornographic. The news is emotional pornography. I don't buy that people can show this kind of emotional concern for someone they didn't even know. There, I said it. A lot of confusion could have been avoided if I was willing to be this blunt at first, I guess, if I just had sai…	/r/MensRights	06/06/24 02:30 PM
0	3-year-old dies after being stabbed by a 32 year old woman. Basically everything you're saying is just a distraction from an acknowledgement of my actual point, which I've most candidly articulated here. I'm tired of idiotic pornographic news stories. People who consoom the news like this are idiots. "Oh my god, the horror, how could anyone do this to their child??" How is it worse when children are severely neglected and abused? And no one gives a shit about that. Many of the parents who react to news stories like this treat their own children like shit…	/r/MensRights	06/06/24 02:13 PM
0	3-year-old dies after being stabbed by a 32 year old woman. Nope, didn't do that. I haven't said a word about the subject of Israel/Palestine, (besides in one direct reply here because someone asked me a question about what I thought of Hamas, and it was just to answer his question — find a single other reply of mine here where I said anything about the topic of Israel/Palestine — you can't.) or ever implied that it itself is related to the topic at hand, as I was accused of, and other people in the thread understood what I was saying. (this was actually…	/r/MensRights	06/06/24 12:36 PM
0	3-year-old dies after being stabbed by a 32 year old woman. Nope. I never said or implied that Israel/Palestine was relevant to the topic of the original post. Obviously it's not. I made a comment about the disparity about how people view the murder of one child on the news versus the mass killing of thousands. A reasonable reaction to a news post like this. A replier asked me to give an example and so I gave one. The very same guy who asked even just said he understood what I was saying. I explained this here. You don't have to read it, but if you don't…	/r/MensRights	06/06/24 03:03 AM
2	3-year-old dies after being stabbed by a 32 year old woman. I appreciate that. I only wrote what you just replied to because he asked me my view on the topic. I admit that that comment is off-topic at this point, but it wasn't intended to be anything other than a direct response to his question. I explained what I was really trying to get across here. In the second paragraph, to be exact: my only point was about the disparity between how people view the murder of one child they hear about on the news versus children being killed to the tune of thousands …	/r/MensRights	06/06/24 02:57 AM
5	3-year-old dies after being stabbed by a 32 year old woman. Good question, and the answer is: no, not at all. They are completely part of the problem, as are their backers like Iran. To begin with Hamas are also mass-murderers. And they don't give a fuck about Palestinians, on the contrary their actions are in part responsible for circumstances that keep leading to the mass killing sprees of them by Israel. I dislike Hamas as much as Israel, in fact. And I dislike Leftists who support Hamas as much as Zionists who support Israel. (we are truly seeing ins…	/r/MensRights	06/06/24 01:16 AM
2	Do you consider the current dating model to be sustainable? (includes religious tangent) The society that the nature of the dating model or scene at any given point is a consequence of the conditions of is unstable and inherently unsustainable. So it's not just about whether "the dating model is sustainable." Sustainable enough for now, but in another sense, not at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/24 11:50 PM
-7	3-year-old dies after being stabbed by a 32 year old woman. This isn't real life and this isn't a party. I'm typing on reddit. I don't talk this way at parties.	/r/MensRights	05/06/24 11:39 PM
-2	3-year-old dies after being stabbed by a 32 year old woman. Yes, you understand. But not just Netanyahu. Everyone in the Israeli leadership, its voters, and the same for all Israeli allies, especially the U.S.A. and its vooters.	/r/MensRights	05/06/24 11:39 PM
-54	3-year-old dies after being stabbed by a 32 year old woman. I never said or at all implied it did relate to it, nor did I say anything about it or "insert" anything. I made a point, someone asked me to give an example, and so I provided one. My point in my initial comment was about the perception of individual instances of child murder versus large-scale instances of children being killed somewhere in a concentrated period of time. In the former case, the one person who had to get their hands dirty to commit the murder is condemned, (and rightfully so, m…	/r/MensRights	05/06/24 09:54 PM
-72	3-year-old dies after being stabbed by a 32 year old woman. Recent news on Israel/Palestine.	/r/MensRights	05/06/24 06:35 PM
-73	3-year-old dies after being stabbed by a 32 year old woman. Or be in a position of power to order people to bomb thousands of them. Not as direct, but more of a thing.	/r/MensRights	05/06/24 05:18 PM
66	3-year-old dies after being stabbed by a 32 year old woman. Unironically, the tendency amongst certain Feminists to blame "the patriarchy" in situations where women are unwarrantedly (i.e. with no possible justification of self-defense) violent to boys and men is a thing. As if the very existence of patriarchal social relations and historic/current oppression to women just nebulously, even metaphysically, always is a justification for anything women do that's bad by default. ("Even if there wasn't a particular catalyst, consider the fact this woman grew …	/r/MensRights	05/06/24 05:16 PM
1	Why do Marxist feminists not allow men to discuss loneliness? The proletariat has never liked the Left. The Left is the left wing of capital. The proletariat is aware the Left is not geniunely interested in helping them. (also, workerism is also anti-proletarian) The Leftists who are not as Feminist are still bourgeois and it would not matter if Leftists were different and "didn't alienate people as much." I actually have always known a tremendous amount of Leftists who sincerely dislike woke idpol, abrasive hostile Feminists, etc. and basically have a min…	/r/MensRights	05/06/24 02:08 AM
–	Unfortunately the only people interested in fixing dating issues for men are the men being afflicted with these issues. What can we do, as a collective to solve these problems? Nothing could actually solve the basis for the issues and disparities to the extent they are manufactured and preventable except for a class-based movement aimed at the abolition of capitalism and the establishment of the communist mode of production. Only a minority of the most conscious among the poorer economic strata of men, and rare exceptions among the upper classes such as Engels, will agree with this. This is even less likely to be the case with women, irrespective of their class positio…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 07:17 PM
-5	Why do Marxist feminists not allow men to discuss loneliness? The same reason as any other Liberal. Where is the assumption that "Marxist Feminists" are different from any other Feminists? Even the so-called working class feminism, born in a non-paradoxical way within the university, is in the end nothing but class collaborationism within the framework of the affirmation of an interclassist community, that is women, from which at best they exclude female bankers...but not the bureaucrats and never the female cadres of the corporate petty bourgeoisie. Again…	/r/MensRights	03/06/24 03:47 PM
1	The porn problem will never be solved It's just not true that internet communities dedicated to being against porn and its use on the internet are generally evenly half men and half women, as you almost seem to be implying here. From what I've seen, they're usually mostly made up of men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 01:54 AM
1	The porn problem will never be solved They're mostly comprised of men, are they not?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 01:24 AM
1	The porn problem will never be solved You said a lot in the post, but I don't think most women want porn banned or particularly care about it one way or another. Radical Feminists calling to ban it or protesting it in isolation are a minority.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 01:11 AM
1	The porn problem will never be solved There is no way to solve the porn addiction problem. Look at what happened to the alchohol prohibition Are you seriously conflating watching porn on the internet to alcoholism? Alcoholism is a real, physical addiction to a substance. I'm not even trying to dismiss people who are suffering and have convinced themselves they can't quit porn despite wanting to. But yes, I think it's ludicrous to regard "porn addiction" as tantamount to addiction to substances.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 01:01 AM
1	Have you ever encountered a woman who shattered your worldview? Why do you think that women are more boring than men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 12:53 AM
1	in my town, the best recovery for alcoholics is women only https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaXH11XU0AUGzh3.jpg	/r/MensRights	02/06/24 10:49 PM
–	Women are championed for their preferences while men are demonized You're correct, but it's just to be expected. There's obviously a biological/genetic basis for this: women are the sexual selectors. They set the standards and don't settle. Of course, it's right to criticize the favoring and double-standards that leads to some people regarding men negatively for expressing certain preferences, where women who express the same sorts of preferences wouldn't be negatively regarded by those same people. But the fact things are like this is connected to the fact tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/24 10:41 PM
1	If women were forced to marry beta males in the past, then why do they grieve for them today? His post is questioning the red pill and the framing about beta male providers. Why are you assuming he's agreeing with it and coming from this place? This isn't supported by the contents of the post you are replying to. It's the opposite, he's criticizing it and questioning it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/24 09:18 PM
1	Why do people act like modern women are “easy” or that all they want is to hook up? Most women are not interested in casual sex whatsoever. Agreed. People exaggerate the notion that the dynamic is simply one of too many or even the majority of women preferring promiscuous short-term relations with the minority of the most desirable men, hence leaving the majority of men supposedly seeking monogamy out. Incels in particular love this narrative, ("hypergamy," as they'd put it) and while there's truth to it (for instance, I would say this dynamic is more prevalent than it was in decades prior, especially prior to the sexual revolution)…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/24 11:09 PM
1	What do you think about Kristen Ghodsee, the feminist professor who claimed that East German women had "better" sex under communism? In her 2017 book Red Hangover: Legacies of Twentieth-Century Communism, Ghodsee posits that the triumphalist attitudes of Western powers at the end of the Cold War, and the fixation with linking all leftist and socialist political ideals with the horrors of Stalinism, allowed neoliberalism to fill the void, which undermined democratic institutions and reforms, leaving a trail of economic misery, unemployment, hopelessness and rising inequality throughout the former Eastern Bloc and much of the W…	/r/MensRights	30/05/24 12:45 AM
2	Honest poll for the people in this sub: In spite of being male advocates(leftist male advocates that is), do you still think in an unbiased manner men’s accomplishments and contributions get highlighted far more than women’s? do you still think in an unbiased manner men’s accomplishments and contributions get highlighted far more than women’s Yes, in the sense that Feminists aren't entirely wrong that there are real examples of women's accomplishments and contributions being de-emphasized to their detriment, and men's contributions, such as in the same field, being highlighted instead. If Feminists were completely wrong about these notions, then no one would agree with them about it. But the situation is not the way …	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	26/05/24 09:21 PM
1	How can we actually properly talk about men's issues? I know a lot of you are frustrated that you feel that the wider left doesn't take men's issues very seriously and dismisses them or acknowledges them in a superficial way. I'm not frustrated by the Left. I reject the Left because I recognize their (middle-class) class objectives. Why do you think the left has done such a poor job Because it's bourgeois and fundamentally supports society and the entire structure in capitalism that governs our lives, men and women alike. It's not done a "poor job,…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	25/05/24 05:29 PM
11	According to some surveys, it's not most women who pick the bear instead of the man, but a vocal minority. r/areweinhell	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	23/05/24 06:25 AM
1	If women really wanted financial equality then why won't they marry someone who makes less than they do? They blame it on men's insecurity but men have to earn more to be loved, pay for dates, and to just be seen as a man. No, I mean most trans rights activists. This was clear in the initial comment you replied to: the previously mentioned subject was trans rights activists in the very first sentence, and (not including sentences in parentheses) the sentence that featured "they" was the third sentence in the comment, immediately following a mentioning of conservatives which it was obviously not referring to. Of course, trans rights activists may include trans people. However, obviously the vast majority of bourgeo…	/r/MensRights	07/03/24 04:22 PM
4	If women really wanted financial equality then why won't they marry someone who makes less than they do? They blame it on men's insecurity but men have to earn more to be loved, pay for dates, and to just be seen as a man. I had so many progressive female friends say a man isn't a man if he doesn't provide, hide his emotions, and take care of a girl. Gender stereotypes live on because women haven't changed and their selection of a mate reenforces the stereotypes places on females. Yes they don't actually want to overcome gender stereotypes. For example: for years, when I was younger I still thought the stated goals and premises of trans rights activists were correct at face-value, simply because (as is still the c…	/r/MensRights	04/03/24 08:10 PM
-1	How do you guys cope with misandry? Good, have hate and anger, it's warranted.	/r/MensRights	18/01/24 11:57 AM
3	I am a member of the Boy Scouts of America and I'm not a fan of girls joining. It's obviously not the Boy Scouts anymore in that case.	/r/MensRights	05/10/23 07:38 AM
10	If you were to write the ten commandments of how you want to be treated better as guys, what would be on the list? Don't demonize men's sexuality to the point of treating men like animals and mocking us over having natural sexual drives and desire for women, while taking women's sexuality and related issues respectfully, considerately and seriously and not seeing this as a blatant double-standard because using sexuality against men as a pretext to dehumanize us and treat us like we're disposable is so ingrained.	/r/MensRights	26/09/23 07:05 AM
4	An oversight in dating Still are in much of the world 👉 r/passportbros	/r/MensRights	26/09/23 01:56 AM
4	Unpopular Opinion: MRA does not fit the left/right political spectrum... and neither does feminism. Feminism is clearly a phenomena of the Left. I say this as someone who is also neither a Leftist nor on the Right/a Conservative. I don't even identify as a Men's Right's Activist. Any human rights framing or advocacy for human rights or democratic rights is a narrow, fallacious framing based on a fundamentally dubious, reformist mindset that misunderstands why the issues raised in the subreddit exist in the first place, much less what would change the society that results in them. Many people j…	/r/MensRights	24/09/23 07:47 PM
11	Yes, women can rape men. No, men don't 'enjoy it'. Holy shit, literally the same fucking argument that men who defend male rapists to women make when he says "if you were hard you were enjoying it." "If the rape happens, you must have enjoyed it, wanted it or asked for it." They would never play these games if it was a woman victim of rape, as there its definition of any sexual act that isn't consensual can extend to mean all manner of potential circumstances. (As it should: my point is precisely that there isn't just one example of rape or way …	/r/MensRights	22/09/23 08:00 PM
2	Why does the media portray men to be idiots? The Simpsons and Family Guy lol	/r/MensRights	22/09/23 07:44 PM
1	The reaction to Russell Brand by feminist controlled media is a familiar story I'm just saying mainstream media is predominated with the narratives conducive to Feminism and Feminists, it's that simple, couldn't be more simple, all you're doing by invoking the CEOs of media companies being men is diverting from the point. That's the point. There's nothing to "prove" unless you deny that the media talks in a way conducive to the narratives and framing of Feminists. If you really would deny something so obvious, you obviously are sympathetic to Feminism and dislike the angle…	/r/MensRights	21/09/23 06:53 PM
1	The reaction to Russell Brand by feminist controlled media is a familiar story Are you really this dumb? Just because most CEOs of media companies are wealthy men, doesn't mean that the narratives aren't influenced by Feminism. This is such a strawman argument I can't even believe someone could make it in dead seriousness, as if you don't know what we mean when we say media is dominated by Feminism.	/r/MensRights	21/09/23 05:26 PM
1	The reaction to Russell Brand by feminist controlled media is a familiar story Feminists prefer rape and violence against women to exist so they can wield it as a weapon in pursuit of their interests. You can tell this is true based on their fixation of it. It took me too long to spot, but their rhetoric surrounding this is fundamentally suspicious. I don't actually mean to suggest that most people with the Feminist mindset are so psychopathic that when they hear about rape cases or violence against women they secretly think deep down "good ah ha maybe I can use this," the…	/r/MensRights	21/09/23 05:23 PM
1	The reaction to Russell Brand by feminist controlled media is a familiar story That's completely correct, crazy someone downvoted this.	/r/MensRights	21/09/23 05:20 PM
1	The reaction to Russell Brand by feminist controlled media is a familiar story Women and men don't lie in the same way.	/r/MensRights	21/09/23 05:19 PM
1	The reaction to Russell Brand by feminist controlled media is a familiar story Exactly. She doesn't even say how, if it all, it would be relevant to him doing a nonconsensual act, and the fact it's only mentioned that he was "rich and powerful" is nothing less than an admission that she was attracted to those traits. Yet, somehow this is still supposed to be taken seriously by people as a testimony to her being raped.	/r/MensRights	21/09/23 05:13 PM
1	Does patriarchy actually exist Patriarchal social relations exist, even in the USA where plenty of marriages are still done on patriarchal lines. But "the patriarchy" as this nebulous concept has not and can not ever exist. Feminists muddle the distinction between these two things. Even if we were to argue that a country/society can qualify for the characterization of being "a patriarchy" as a whole if certain requisite criteria like enough enforced patriarchal social relations are present, the USA wouldn't qualify, but by th…	/r/MensRights	19/09/23 10:09 PM
1	Female is the new N word. Feminism is not a defensive reaction or resistance to a society of men dehumanizing women, its prevalence is due to its conduciveness to help justify a society that dehumanizes men in ways that are more controversial and inherently threatening to its foundational premises to confront than the ways that it dehumanizes women.	/r/MensRights	18/09/23 06:56 PM
9	Australian Government wants to prosecute men for "sexual harassment" on dating apps They are attacking men as a whole but he's absolutely right, the upper echelon of attractive/successful men (this is all that we mean by "Chad," there's nothing to deny unless you deny that some men are more attractive, tall, physically strong and affluent than other men are) are largely immune to a lot of this bullshit. That's not to say that Chad can't find himself in a situation where he's falsely accused of sexual assault, but yes, it's less likely, because you see the women that Chad is wit…	/r/MensRights	18/09/23 04:11 PM
7	Can you think of something positive about feminists or feminism? When I meet women in real life, I still treat them as individuals This is already in stark contrast to Feminists, who if they really embody and follow the mindset, refuse to treat men as individuals, just because some men do bad things. (just as some women do bad things. But according to Feminists, despite being forced to acknowledge the obvious fact that plenty of women do violence, sexual assault, domestic abuse etc. they fundamentally think this is the domain of men enough to have the notion …	/r/MensRights	18/09/23 01:46 AM
5	Incels are vilified as a men thinking they are entitled to sex with hot women. Yet I know a lot more women who think they are entitled financially successful husbands. What do we call them. No. Masturbation isn't sexual intercourse, no. Masturbation is a necessary activity for men unless they like accidentally ejaculating in their sleep. (wet dreams) Celibate means you don't have sexual intercourse. An incel simply means involuntary celibate, a man who wants to be sexually active, but nevertheless remains celibate despite trying to find a woman to have sexual intercourse with. Furthermore, a man who sees prostitutes is still an incel because prostitutes don't count. It isn't a woma…	/r/MensRights	17/09/23 12:08 AM
34	Incels are vilified as a men thinking they are entitled to sex with hot women. Yet I know a lot more women who think they are entitled financially successful husbands. What do we call them. Incels are vilified as a men thinking they are entitled to sex with hot women This is just a lie. (I'm not saying you're the one lying, I'm referring to people who vilify incels and pointing out their own false hypocrisy.) The notion that being a single, spurned or rejected guy means such people think they must be entitled to something or blame women for their condition is just baseless. Incels merely point out the fact that rates of male singledom and loneliness have gone up in the past several…	/r/MensRights	16/09/23 12:35 PM
3	So-called "pick me" behavior is reviled in women. It is expected from men. Joe Rogan, a moderate liberal centrist who is willing to criticize and openly disagree with Left-wing progressive Feminist thought while also clearly disliking racism and the Far-Right. He interviews people from all political perspectives and just lets them speak their mind when many other media outlets wouldn't. The fact so many people take such an issue with him speaks volumes about to what extent progressivism has taken over the mainstream and how viciously irrational and allergic to construc…	/r/MensRights	16/09/23 12:18 PM
8	Is The Patriarchy Truly Real? Of course not. There never is was or can be such a thing as "the patriarchy." Do patriarchal social relations exist? Yes, everywhere. To what extent and how this exists, depends on the country. Every country in the West (U.S.A., Canada, Australia, New Zealand and all the countries in Western Europe) is anything but this, where there is no other society on earth that enables women to be independent have opportunities and generally live a life of relative ease and advantage the way Western society…	/r/MensRights	16/09/23 03:46 AM
1	What should someone in my friend shoes do as a young man? Almost certainly below 5'8 (I'm 5'5 for the record, I get to talk about this like this)	/r/MensRights	16/09/23 02:59 AM
2	What should someone in my friend shoes do as a young man? No. No one said it's fault of women. That's a jump. You're presenting a completely false dichotomy: either it's 100% the fault of the single guy, or if it's not that simple, the only reason someone could think it's anything other than 100% the fault of the guy is because they advocate a mindset of blaming women. Here's a fact: in the past several decades, in the U.S. and similar countries more and more men are being single, rates of loneliness are on the rise. This is obviously not the fault of …	/r/MensRights	16/09/23 02:54 AM
1	What should someone in my friend shoes do as a young man? This book: https://read.easypeasymethod.org/	/r/MensRights	16/09/23 02:47 AM
1	Female is the new N word. According to liberals: Creepy: never having had sex or been in a relationship before. Using the word "female" in a sentence. Meriting public celebration in the streets throughout the entire country: this man assuming the most powerful position in the world.	/r/MensRights	16/09/23 01:05 AM
2	Do you actually need a father to raise a child? He went to China for work and because he didn't care about me and my brother. No parent has a good reason to abandon the kids they have a responsibility to be there for choose to fly to the other side of the globe and never come back, he could've found work here if he wanted to. He had a green card to be clear, he was a U.S. citizen, and he had even never lived or worked in China before going there, he's not Chinese. He literally flew to China with a business partner with the idea that he was go…	/r/MensRights	15/09/23 03:14 PM
2	Why some men think that feminism also want to help mens? Because they're Feminists and take that utterly inane "the patriarchy hurts men, too!" line at face-value. (problem number one: we don't live in a patriarchy, society has in fact never been this gynocentric and favoring of women.)	/r/MensRights	15/09/23 03:07 PM
3	Female is the new N word. I'd really like to see their attempt at an "exhaustive list" after reading it, that was a doozy. I feel like I just climbed into the head of a liberal who just finished watching every episode of Jon Stewart on repeat 100 times.	/r/MensRights	15/09/23 04:30 AM
4	Do you actually need a father to raise a child? She likely got "pushback" for her pro-father book because of Feminists. Feminists are hostile to the notion that boys need a father basically because they're apologists for irresponsible destructive selfish single mothers who often lie and demonize their children's father to them, use the system against the father to make them pay child support or at worst make it impossible to see their children or imprison them, and generally can push away the father from the kids and make his life a living he…	/r/MensRights	15/09/23 04:22 AM
16	Female is the new N word. So I went on their rule page to confirm that indeed they explicitly state the rule about the use of the word "female," (under sexism, which as usual they erroneously conflate to specifically misogyny implying it's the only form of sexism that exists or that all sexism necessarily revolves around) and good God, it's unnecessarily long to the point of absurdity. Like I get having different categories for different kinds of discrimination, and even including examples to an extent, but there are so …	/r/MensRights	15/09/23 01:13 AM
6	How can we not seem like a male supremacy group? It never will because they didn't arrive to the positions they did due to rationality or an honest confrontation with reality in the first place. By even gathering that information, you're admitting you're aware of this, but at the same time to try to convince them at all think on some level they were just innocently misled. It's clear Feminism isn't just being innocently misled, because if it was, they wouldn't carry paper-thin pretense it was about equality for the sexes, while always reacting…	/r/MensRights	15/09/23 01:05 AM
2	How can we not seem like a male supremacy group? Some people who read this clearly misunderstood so I'll break it down as clearly as I can. I never shot down OP and wasn't saying he shouldn't try to talk constructively about these issues. I encouraged him to, and it's obvious that I myself am interested in doing the same thing. I'm saying that "winning hearts and minds" and "shifting that mindset" is idealism, because it is. It's from the place of fundamentally misunderstanding why things got to this point i.e. why Feminism is the predominant …	/r/MensRights	15/09/23 12:02 AM
13	This sub sometimes just feels like a Female bashing club 👉 r/Feminism	/r/MensRights	14/09/23 11:53 PM
1	How can we not seem like a male supremacy group? When someone interprets as derogatory almost anything that is said about him (or about groups with whom he identifies) we conclude that he has inferiority feelings or low self-esteem. This tendency is pronounced among minority rights activists, whether or not they belong to the minority groups whose rights they defend. They are hypersensitive about the words used to designate minorities and about anything that is said concerning minorities. The terms "negro," "oriental," "handicapped" or "chick"…	/r/MensRights	14/09/23 10:57 PM
3	How can we not seem like a male supremacy group? Exactly. It was all about her and her self-image. It wasn't about him, (obviously it wasn't in his interest to get involved with a fight with strangers) much less the dudes on the subway at all. That was pretense; she was looking for a situation like that already. That's what Feminism/progressivism/woke is all ultimately about. Virtue-signaling. It isn't about the oppression and racism black people experience. It isn't about all the issues women experience. See, that's all real. (even if they do…	/r/MensRights	14/09/23 10:56 PM
10	Female is the new N word. I wish this was a joke but I know there's a subreddit that actually does this since someone mentioned it here, but I forgot which one it is.	/r/MensRights	14/09/23 10:48 PM
27	Female is the new N word. Someone ask them: "Is it misogynist to use the word female in a sentence?" Oh wait you can't The moderators have permanently banned you from r/feminism for using the word "female" in your post.	/r/MensRights	14/09/23 10:47 PM
22	Female is the new N word. I know you're quipping and making a separate point, but I'll take a moment to be clear that what I was thinking about was their rhetoric, for instance on social media, where they always write "males do X Y Z" "males are always [...]" "males look at women like objects" "males are X because of the patriarchy" etc. etc. Note that the wording we would use would instead say "boys and men" in place of "males." They're deliberately doing this to be dehumanizing to us, there's no doubt about it. I'm cru…	/r/MensRights	14/09/23 10:40 PM
7	How can we not seem like a male supremacy group? This reminds me of a story a friend told me. He was on the subway with his then girlfriend when they witnessed a fight of sorts between two people. One of them happened to be black. Who knows how much race had to do with anything, but she thought it did to the point she acted like he had a fundamental responsibility to intervene on behalf of the black guy. Of course he did the wise thing and did nothing, so after they got off she starts giving him hell for not being the antiracist hero of the da…	/r/MensRights	14/09/23 10:19 PM
15	How can we not seem like a male supremacy group? It's painfully obvious that the situation is one of Feminists being constantly hostile, vitriolic, personal, aggressive and demeaning, and in the face of this men who dislike Feminism being patient, rational, constructive, and willing to calmly listen and respond and constructively and politely explain with the utmost respect possible why they disagree. And it never works. The mistake OP and people like him make is that people who promote mindsets like Feminism and antiracism do so from the plac…	/r/MensRights	14/09/23 10:19 PM
2	How can we not seem like a male supremacy group? I'm hoping people may have ideas as to how we can begin to shift that mindset and actually go about winning the hearts and minds of people to show that men are allowed to be able to vent their frustrations, have safe spaces (even if its not "PC") and be able to advocate for greater rights. Gee, this is idealistic. But in all seriousness, you fundamentally misunderstand why Feminists characterize any man that disagrees with Feminism a "misogynist" by default. No amount of rational argumentation, …	/r/MensRights	14/09/23 09:58 PM
214	Female is the new N word. And yet Feminists constantly use "male" with an inherently negative connotation. It's just yet another double-standard of theirs.	/r/MensRights	14/09/23 04:36 PM
17	I’m a young guy in my mid 20s. What is some advice you have for someone like me to try and navigate this modern world? (I live in the West) Southeast Asia it is then.	/r/MensRights	14/09/23 01:00 AM
14	I’m a young guy in my mid 20s. What is some advice you have for someone like me to try and navigate this modern world? (I live in the West) If you're rich, have fun. If you're not rich, hold out and earn money however you can in the U.S.A. then move to Mexico. I'm completely serious.	/r/MensRights	14/09/23 12:29 AM
2	How many here have watch the Red Pill Documentary? I'll watch it just to learn how people think. The redpill mindset is false and works against men. I plan to write on why this is the case here in a post later. But it should be obvious. Especially at this point. (Concisely: it's because of its focus on individual blame. They actively fetishize and exalt the fact that life is so much harder for men than it is for women, and just like Feminists truly believe men deserve to bear the brunt of all burden. There are reasons that are due to external fo…	/r/MensRights	14/09/23 12:13 AM
10	Woman here! How can I help more men have their voices heard? To deduce what gives women a hard time doing this to a single word and mindset, that would, of course, be Feminism.	/r/MensRights	13/09/23 10:43 PM
1	The STRUGGLE Of Being A Male Is this your video?	/r/MensRights	13/09/23 07:27 PM
2	Where does misandry stem from? It is part of the Left. It is not Marxism. Feminism is explicitly in favor of bourgeois rule and a part of bourgeois ideology. Marxism is not Leftism. (despite the fact the majority of self-identified Marxists think just like Leftists and indeed might as well just be Leftists who don't identify this way.) Marxism is not a system. Marxism is not Stalinism or Marxism-Leninism, has nothing to do with authoritarian capitalist states like the USSR or China. Marxism is not a tool of socioeconomic anal…	/r/MensRights	11/09/23 01:48 PM
1	Where does misandry stem from? https://www.reddit.com/r/CapitalismVSocialism/comments/ll0wmi/the\_original\_new\_to\_marxism\_post\_hy\_uehrino/	/r/MensRights	11/09/23 01:47 PM
1	How would you protect yourself against false allegations if you were famous? What country are you from?	/r/MensRights	08/09/23 06:20 PM
1	How would you protect yourself against false allegations if you were famous? What was the name of the boxer?	/r/MensRights	08/09/23 06:18 PM
1	How would you protect yourself against false allegations if you were famous? Use my fame to become so wealthy I never have to work again, then move somewhere far away where I don't have to be near any idiots in the west that would falsely accuse me in the first place.	/r/MensRights	08/09/23 06:14 PM
1	No more erasure Once you factor in prisons, men face more rape and sexual violence than women, men being the overwhelming majority of the prison population in every country in the world. As well as men being the majority of people who are forcibly institutionalized in mental asylums, which are basically another form of prison but with more pretense and justification. And accused of "mental illness" which is basically a way for the system to violently and coercively oppress us under the convenient pretense that …	/r/MensRights	06/09/23 01:52 PM
2	Are "incels" bad? there are a vast majority of people who simply are hopeless romantics who struggle with love but have to share the ridicule of being labeled with that term. It's all just another form of bashing men in particular since "nerd" has been co-opted and "virgin" is a bit out of style. Anyway, hope you enjoy it! Oh, of course. Read this article if you haven't yet: An Interview With 'Incel Whisperer' Mike Crumplar Many of the incels’ insights are not actually that wrong in and of themselves. It is that …	/r/MensRights	02/09/23 08:54 PM
2	"I ask men to show me their bank balance on the first date because I only want to go out with wealthy guys - I need to know if I'm wasting my time" 'Does love and genuine connection just not exist anymore?' one questioned. Correct, it doesn't. At least not in ameriKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKa	/r/MensRights	02/09/23 05:45 PM
3	A modern man is... But they also don't actually want men to be submissive and emotionally histrionic. The most conventionally attractive women are not Feminist, because they have access to men who are at the upper tier of being physically attractive, financially successful, having the ideal social and psychological traits, etc. Feminists are women who have some insecurity or failure that compels them to social contexts where Feminism is the prevalent, accepted world-view. These women are bitter because they can't …	/r/MensRights	01/09/23 08:53 PM
2	Do women truly mature faster? If so, is there some catch to it when compared to men? What it is is that they mature faster, prior to men, and reach the apex of their maturity first. But that men have a higher ceiling for potential maturity, so women don't mature as far as men in the long-run. Like arrested development. The funny thing about this is that it means that when people say "women are more mature than men!" there's technically some truth to this if you're talking about very young women and men; I actually think there is some truth to people who say that adolescent and y…	/r/MensRights	31/08/23 07:29 PM
10	Strong Independent Women Still Won't Make The First Move I just don't like redpill types and made that clear, no need to be condescending.	/r/MensRights	30/08/23 05:54 AM
36	Strong Independent Women Still Won't Make The First Move They want guys to make the first move, yet women are super picky and will almost subconsciously reject a ton of guys for the most minor and unexpected plethora of things. Also, upon further digging, I found out even the nicest woman is actually practicing hyper-gamy and being picky and still wants the guys to make the first move. Women have become spoiled too spoiled and the concept of responsibility and handling rejection is foreign to them. This is why no matter what you say or do, women don't…	/r/MensRights	30/08/23 01:04 AM
9	Why do men have initial respect for each other, but women almost hate each other I recommend reading the entire text if you haven't already, it's good and I largely agree with it. However, I agree with people that characterize him as painting a negative and inferior view of women in it, and I disagree with his final characterization of women as these more childish less capable beings who one would be right to regard with less inherent seriousness or respect. (I think it's more productive to note, as Esther Vilar does, for instance, that in modern society the disparity of per…	/r/MensRights	29/08/23 08:25 PM
32	Why do men have initial respect for each other, but women almost hate each other Schopenhauer directly addresses this: The natural feeling between men is mere indifference, but between women it is actual enmity. The reason of this is that trade-jealousy – odium figulinum – which, in the case of men, does not go beyond the confines of their own particular pursuit but with women embraces the whole sex; since they have only one kind of business. Even when they meet in the street women look at one another like Guelphs and Ghibellines. And it is a patent fact that when two women …	/r/MensRights	29/08/23 08:13 PM
1	The so-called red pill community is a problem!!! It couldn't have more to do with the redpill, this is how proponents of that mindset think.	/r/MensRights	29/08/23 04:50 PM
1	Women have free reign to disrespect men online. See that would be too simple and if she was this straightforward she wouldn't hate men.	/r/MensRights	29/08/23 03:25 PM
2	The so-called red pill community is a problem!!! They're assholes that only base their world-view around individual blame and responsibility. Some of what they say is true but it goes without saying that men can only focus on what is within their control. It stops being just "facts-based" and starts being egregious and dishonest when they use this obvious fact to actively divert from the basic realization that things have just been getting more difficult in the last several decades here in particular. (for economic and political related factor…	/r/MensRights	29/08/23 03:00 PM
1	The so-called red pill community is a problem!!! It's painfully obvious what I mean by the redpill mindset and community, I'm contrasting it to the bluepilled norms they criticize and the blackpill. Everyone knows what I'm talking about, Andrew Tate, PUA Game advice world etc. Stop making this confusing.	/r/MensRights	29/08/23 09:49 AM
1	The so-called red pill community is a problem!!! You can't say it's just objectively true, it contains information and facts toward a specific world-view and perspective, that's the point. I could say Feminism is true because it collects facts and certain observations, but it's very obviously biased and embellished. The same is true for redpill manosphere elitist idiots.	/r/MensRights	29/08/23 09:37 AM
1	The so-called red pill community is a problem!!! That's how you define it. What I'm referring to PUA is part of the Redpill mindset. Everyone knows what I'm talking about, there's no reason to make it confusing and get lost in semantics.	/r/MensRights	29/08/23 08:40 AM
3	Women have free reign to disrespect men online. Self care...but radical.	/r/MensRights	29/08/23 04:39 AM
4	Women have free reign to disrespect men online. lol she is a self proclaimed proud fat, don't be stunned she resents men? She obviously hates men since most would reject her...	/r/MensRights	29/08/23 04:38 AM
3	The so-called red pill community is a problem!!! The redpill is gynocentric. Have you ever listen to Andrew Tate talk? His perspective is the embodiment of this image, and he affirms this entirely as the way things should be. The redpill is gynocentric because it: focuses on women, providing undeserved attention to them benefits women while being detrimental to men puts women on a pedestal, making men self improove for mediocre pussy The redpill is also misogynistic, because it blames female behavior on female character, not female nature. So …	/r/MensRights	29/08/23 02:26 AM
1	Double Standards Between the Sheets: The Orgasm Gap Where did he brag? Edit: I was confused, you meant the replier Shubes09, not OP. I agree he's bragging and wrong about the purpose of OP's post.	/r/MensRights	28/08/23 02:43 PM
1	Why is men putting themselves first a thought crime to society? Why is men putting themselves first a thought crime to society? Conservatives and liberals, feminists and redpillers, the religious and the non-religious, capitalists and socialists, no matter what camp you take, everyone seems to be so aversive to the idea of male self-actualization and self-direction Because all these groups approve of society, and society makes self actualization impossible. Only Communism could entail a society where self actualization was possible. All socialists (and self-…	/r/MensRights	28/08/23 06:26 AM
2	Is it true women were not seen as intrinsically valuable in most religions? Well duh, because obviously, women have always been more oppressed than men, because men were always doing the oppressing! Men are just worse than women. They're more violent! Men were always the ones starting wars and problems. If they just let women run things, everything would have been practical, smooth, peaceful and fine.	/r/MensRights	28/08/23 05:44 AM
4	Is it true women were not seen as intrinsically valuable in most religions? Agreed, from what I've seen most on this subreddit are reasonable in their views on women and don't think like this guy. We're very specifically naturally incensed on the widespread hostility, oppression and exploitation to men in society, and the fact that acknowledging this is met with inane undeserved accusations of "misogyny" or "anti-feminism." People who double-down by actually having derogatory views of women such as them being inferior, evil, the reason that society is the way it is or u…	/r/MensRights	28/08/23 05:12 AM
23	Double Standards Between the Sheets: The Orgasm Gap He said that women who do not orgasm on their own when masturbating will expect a male partner to make them orgasm when they don't know themselves and never have experienced it before. How did you miss and misconstrue this basic statement so badly?	/r/MensRights	28/08/23 04:49 AM
12	Double Standards Between the Sheets: The Orgasm Gap It's not off-topic to the subreddit, he's making a point and criticism to social perceptions of men and double standards in society, it couldn't be more relevant.	/r/MensRights	28/08/23 04:47 AM
5	Double Standards Between the Sheets: The Orgasm Gap Couldn't have described it better.	/r/MensRights	28/08/23 04:46 AM
3	Dating isn't worth it She was indecisive for the first two. Women are often flippant and indecisive.	/r/MensRights	28/08/23 12:33 AM
6	Dating isn't worth it Says it all. Seriously, you'd give up on dating from one disappointing encounter from Tinder? Just, no.	/r/MensRights	27/08/23 11:57 PM
1	Dating isn't worth it How much you have to lower standards depends on the usual factors and characteristics of men and their chance of success with (actually attractive) women. Physical attractiveness, face, height, body fitness, money, social skills, etc. Of these you can only control your money, (by earning more) physical fitness (through exercise) and social skills. (through advice, introspection, and practice) The blackpill correctly notes that society downplays to what extent the most pivotal qualities to succes…	/r/MensRights	27/08/23 10:56 PM
0	Dating isn't worth it She should have been cooking for you if anything What do you expect him to say, he just implied that in this situation where he invited her to his home, she should've walked right in, go straight to the kitchen, found all the ingredients she needed without prompting or asking, asked him what he was in the mood for, and got to work. lmao	/r/MensRights	27/08/23 08:27 PM
3	Dating isn't worth it I was nothing but cordial Of course, but on her end of things: 30 minutes is fast. She practically ate the meal and walked out. I don't get a good impression of her. and I just thought I had a mindset maybe I should change my standards regarding her. Clearly that was a mistake from my part Yes, as others in the thread have said, I think if there's any lesson to be derived from this, it's that lowering your standards for women is not a good idea... ...of course, when you can help it. Outside of s…	/r/MensRights	27/08/23 08:22 PM
0	Dating isn't worth it That's really just not how things work, the nature of society, its culture, trends, dynamics, the way women are etc. don't change because of the individual volition of men gradually changing things when that adds up enough. That's idealism. This really boils down to the stupid individualist redpill logic, apparently there are no broader forces at play related to society and the economy that are the reason things are more difficult now for men than they were in decades past; no, it's all the faul…	/r/MensRights	27/08/23 08:10 PM
1	Dating isn't worth it Exactly, it's just not how things work.	/r/MensRights	27/08/23 08:08 PM
1	Dating isn't worth it Of course, I honestly have no idea why he's suggesting you waste his time. But I will say this: I can tell he's a True Believer in this world-view that's led him to this absurd suggestion, and it doesn't seem to either be ill-intentioned or trolling you for his own amusement, oddly enough.	/r/MensRights	27/08/23 08:07 PM
154	The utter hell of marrying a billionaire 60 years older than you and living in a mansion. Yeah it's Hugh Hefner, what did she expect, a wealthy old billionaire not to be this way?	/r/MensRights	27/08/23 05:39 PM
-3	Dating isn't worth it Theory: maybe part of the reason they default to Feminism is ironically because of the lack of masculine/powerful men in circulation. Of course, let's remember that Stacy isn't a Feminist for a reason. Feminism obviously isn't true or consistent, and this is evidenced alone by the fact that some women become Feminists, and some don't, in accordance with their perceived social interests. 99% of people are biased to believe what they believe in accordance with their background and circumstance, no…	/r/MensRights	27/08/23 04:17 PM
2	Dating isn't worth it Why would she not respond man? Are you a troll? Why would she?	/r/MensRights	27/08/23 04:12 PM
0	Dating isn't worth it He never whined, it's just an anecdotal story. You and other people saying the same thing are obviously correct that he should move on and not worry about this person, but that goes without saying to the point it's equally obvious to him as it is to you. So the real question is, why are you acting like he complains or wants people to feel sorry for him or ever made it more than it is? He did not. It's just an anecdote that overwhelmingly was well-received here, precisely because nothing about th…	/r/MensRights	27/08/23 04:10 PM
3	Dating isn't worth it Women are the ones who decide and set standards because women are the ones that decide who to accept in selection and dating. Women don't settle or lower their standards. Men do. No men prefer to have to lower their standards, but they will be willing to if it's between that and being single. But this is not the position women are in.	/r/MensRights	27/08/23 04:07 PM
6	Dating isn't worth it I gave this girl a chance, I lowered my standards significantly if I am being honest. It doesn't appear that OP was especially interested in her himself.	/r/MensRights	27/08/23 04:07 PM
5	Dating isn't worth it It could have been something you said but it probably wasn't. Even if she thinks it was "something you said" she had a latent need to look for excuses to lean toward not having interest. She just changed her mind about being interested in you. It wasn't the state of your home either like that one replier insufferably went on about. I'm sure it was fine. The fact that unlike the other two times this time you invited her to your home maybe wasn't totally incidental, but that doesn't mean it was th…	/r/MensRights	27/08/23 04:06 PM
8	Dating isn't worth it Woman keep telling us how strong and independent they are, so they should be paying for their half, especially on a first date. The whole point of Feminism is they can have it both ways: they're strong and independent when convenient for their material interests and opportunities, and weak, helpless, passive and in need of men to step in and provide, sacrifice themselves or protect them when convenient.	/r/MensRights	27/08/23 03:23 PM
2	Dating isn't worth it Right, worst thing she could have done is not said that and continued to string him along because she's flippant and indecisive and wanted to keep him on her rolodex but basically felt she didn't want him anymore. Many women would do this.	/r/MensRights	27/08/23 03:20 PM
2	Dating isn't worth it She should have been cooking for you if anything Unbelievably based	/r/MensRights	27/08/23 03:09 PM
2	Dating isn't worth it Fair point, good noticing and highlighting his mentioning he "lowered his standards significantly." But then again, you act like he is complaining. He just shared an anecdotal story since he thought some people on this subreddit would like to read it. There's no need to read into it more than that, when you say "can't really feel sorry for you" it implies he was asking anyone to feel sorry for him, which he is not, nothing about the way he wrote the post indicates this.	/r/MensRights	27/08/23 03:06 PM
4	Dating isn't worth it She would not respond. Also, OP is not interested in her. Furthermore, even if she did respond, it would not accomplish or clarify anything. To be brutally honest this sounds like something someone lacking experience would say. (this is not a personal ad hominem jab, you could have a partner for all I know, but this is just how it reads.)	/r/MensRights	27/08/23 03:02 PM
3	Dating isn't worth it No. No one is saying she should have faked interest in him if she didn't have it. You're putting words in our mouths and with extreme disingenuousness acting like we think in a way we do not.	/r/MensRights	27/08/23 02:57 PM
5	Dating isn't worth it I'm leaving the USA. I despise this culture. Other countries are better than this, I'm certain of it. The notion women are the same everywhere is wrong. Similar, sure. Not the same.	/r/MensRights	27/08/23 02:55 PM
8	Dating isn't worth it None. No one is saying she had one. You deliberately miss the point.	/r/MensRights	27/08/23 02:54 PM
16	Dating isn't worth it No one is saying this. You obviously dislike this subreddit, just stop wasting our time.	/r/MensRights	27/08/23 02:53 PM
1	The way society, and including Reddit, treats virgin men and lonely single men and their dating struggles is why those incel online communities attract members. I'm leaving the USA and never coming back. I hate my family and my former "friends."	/r/MensRights	26/08/23 06:44 AM
8	I can finally disown my rapist mom What country do you live in? I'm in the USA. You don't have to share but I don't think it's too invasive since I'm just asking the country and it's relevant information since you grew up in a culture that would allow this.	/r/MensRights	26/08/23 06:41 AM
1	Why did lot of countries criminalize male homosexuality yet in these countries lesbianism is legal and not crime? Never even thought that male homosexuality being criminalized more (if at all) than lesbians was due to general demonization of male sexuality. But I generally agree with everything you've said in your reply here. It's funny: growing up I always thought that this phenomena was due to hypocrisy on the part of the male lawmakers: gay sex is "oh no!" and more a threat to their own perceived bias toward heterosexuality, but lesbians are "hot." Of course, this notion was instilled in me by Feminists,…	/r/MensRights	25/08/23 05:39 PM
2	[Showerthought] The term "manosphere" has entered our lexicon because men's interests, issues, etc, are not mainstream in the online world I wasn't speaking for or about OP's perspective, my reply was just a general conveying of my own view.	/r/MensRights	25/08/23 06:05 AM
7	[Showerthought] The term "manosphere" has entered our lexicon because men's interests, issues, etc, are not mainstream in the online world Many people use it in a derogatory light. That doesn't necessarily speak to the origin and original intent of the term, however.	/r/MensRights	24/08/23 05:05 PM
3	Read: Y: The Last Man. Do you think that if enough men went their own way or opted out of society, we would end up with a struggling infrastructure among other things? Nothing will change until we reach the point of collapse, because as it stands it's impossible and inconceivable for the majority to go off the grid. We won't be allowed to escape and live out in structures built in nature away from it all. Everything is structured such that for the majority, being on the grid is the only option: especially now. The onl…	/r/MensRights	24/08/23 04:50 PM
3	UN report: 9 out of 10 people worldwide (including women) are biased AGAINST WOMEN They're not interested in the opinions or agency or conservative women. Not that they or anyone actively should be supportive to conservative woman politicians, it's just that liberal/progressive/left politicians, be they women or men, aren't any better. Politicians suck, period.	/r/MensRights	24/08/23 12:09 AM
7	UN report: 9 out of 10 people worldwide (including women) are biased AGAINST WOMEN Also, women are biased against women, men to blame (probably). But of course, the internalized patriarchy!!!!	/r/MensRights	24/08/23 12:07 AM
1	Best Countries To Live As a Man? The traditional ideation of how woman are caring nurturing supporting loyal in the marriage to the family has been completely weaponized by women. If the family law allow them to take what they want, then everything else is just a facade and a great one for women. Almost all Asian women like white guys, better if you have blue eyes. For genetic material they are willing to have kids, they don’t even like to have kids with their own race. For monetary gain, getting into marriage with an industrio…	/r/MensRights	21/08/23 11:08 PM
1	Best Countries To Live As a Man? Muslims have more rights in India than Hindus. Are you a Hindu Nationalist? They historically have been protected by governments in India to a certain notable extent and due to this in some cases they receive favored treatment compared to nearby Hindu populations, that is all technically correct. But do you know what's happening in India right now?	/r/MensRights	21/08/23 04:37 PM
1	Best Countries To Live As a Man? I never "generalized" Muslims or anything, I brought up Islam as a relevant factor for social-conservatism in the region of the middle east, because it is. People are generalizing and making sweeping comments about India right now after falsely assuming I was Indian when I'm not. (I am Muslim, I am Iranian.)	/r/MensRights	21/08/23 04:36 PM
1	Best Countries To Live As a Man? Muslims and Christians have more rights than Hindus. lol That's why BJP Nationalism and terrorism has never been greater in India, to the point the president endorses it and is supported by people who religiously revere the man who assassinated Gandhi.	/r/MensRights	21/08/23 04:34 PM
1	Best Countries To Live As a Man? No, I'm not Indian. I'm Iranian, which makes his baseless assumption all the more laughable given the content of his reply. (which wasn't actually that bad, people can really be assholes here but he doesn't sound like one, just made a shitty assumption about my identity. I never said or implied I was Indian at all.)	/r/MensRights	21/08/23 04:34 PM
1	Best Countries To Live As a Man? I'm not Indian. I'm Iranian. lol. Beyond that, I understand your point. I said it was a major issue that social-conservatism and general unreasonable repression stems from in the region. The media obviously paints these countries in a false and demonized light, as it has since even before 9/11. I also agree that the typical married woman in a conservative middle eastern country is happier with her life and more secure than an OF egirl here, but then again that is a low bar. It undoubtedly leads …	/r/MensRights	21/08/23 04:30 PM
1	Best Countries To Live As a Man? To be clear and to the point: I mean you're more likely to be mugged walking around in cities. https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/in/Quezon-City https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/in/Manila Doesn't make it unlivable or necessarily a bad place to live, but it does make it less livable than a typical U.S. city.	/r/MensRights	21/08/23 04:50 AM
0	Best Countries To Live As a Man? It's disingenuous to compare it to the worst parts of Chicago or Detroit, overall the Philippines just has more danger, period in the major cities. (I'm aware of how vast and multifaceted it can be throughout the archipelago, but I was thinking of Quezon City and Manila.) I knew a guy (half Filipino) who was stabbed on a bus in Quezon City. He was my age, I went to school with him, early 20's, wasn't doing anything. I don't want to exaggerate or paint a false picture, but it shouldn't be treated…	/r/MensRights	21/08/23 03:14 AM
0	Best Countries To Live As a Man? It honestly sounds like exactly what I'm looking for. I want: hot sunny weather, slow old-fashioned lifestyle, somewhere straightforward and barren, put me there with a gf and I'm happy. I would love Spain but am currently looking at Greece and Turkey as well, Turkey is the most affordable and feasible so I will probably end up with that. Spain is also generally one of the less racist countries in Europe, after extensive research on my part for polls of attitudes to immigrants compared to other …	/r/MensRights	21/08/23 12:33 AM
2	Best Countries To Live As a Man? Europe is safer than the Philippines or Latin America, 'nuff said.	/r/MensRights	21/08/23 12:32 AM
2	Best Countries To Live As a Man? I completely am in agreement with you and this article, (which is important and informative) of course. The law and system is completely abominable. But that said, you do realize you can avoid this entirely by just avoiding shitty women? I'm serious. You're hyperbolic to act like moving to Spain is a death sentence just because the law exists. Sure, it's a fair mark against it, but I will just avoid women who would do this and everything will be fine, obviously.	/r/MensRights	21/08/23 12:30 AM
2	Best Countries To Live As a Man? https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/15v82vz/my\_experience\_dating\_in\_the\_modern\_age\_the\_viper/	/r/MensRights	20/08/23 10:15 PM
1	Best Countries To Live As a Man? No "edge" involved, I'm just stating the truth.	/r/MensRights	20/08/23 10:14 PM
1	Best Countries To Live As a Man? I would, but I think I'm going Turkey just because I've been there and have some practice with the language. I just don't know what I'm going to do for money. I'll find something remotely but the problem is that unlike Croatia, it doesn't have a Digital Nomad Visa. I heard that in Antalya, the city I was interested, police just come to your door if you settle down there. (and are not a citizen obviously, which I'm not.) They don't necessarily force you to leave the country but will interrogate y…	/r/MensRights	20/08/23 10:14 PM
3	Best Countries To Live As a Man? Other parts of California are also egregiously expensive, I am afraid. You just named the two most expensive parts of California, places I would choose to sleep in my car in and shower at a YMCA even if I had a salary. The other parts of California (any city you'd want to live in, I mean) are close and comparable to the expensiveness of the most expensive parts, just not as expensive.	/r/MensRights	20/08/23 08:25 PM
11	Best Countries To Live As a Man? Exactly. One of my friends was Brazilian on his mother's side and has been there before and we'd talk about it all the time. This is from experience talking to people who know what it's like from knowing people with first-hand experience, (his family, I mean) as well as research with a reasonable and discerning eye. Because they've never been the recipient of danger, they assume any mentioning of it is bigotry (and because they're projecting they assume I'm white/privileged also) when if anythin…	/r/MensRights	20/08/23 05:30 PM
7	Best Countries To Live As a Man? Why are those states trash? They're retardedly expensive, I hope you like $6000 a month for a small place otherwise living with 10+ roommates. How is the dating world for a man there? Only a thing if you can afford a roof over your head and unless you're very, very lucky you'll have to work so much to barely scrape by you'll barely have time to date. I wanted to go there to make the bucks Hope you're in tech, the only line of work that pays these days. Or you could become a real estate agent, wo…	/r/MensRights	20/08/23 05:02 PM
2	Best Countries To Live As a Man? You're right, can't trust anyone in a place like that. They're just like animals or robots, no personality, only after $$$$$.	/r/MensRights	20/08/23 05:00 PM
5	Best Countries To Live As a Man? But life is what's you make it Nope. Life is only having money, it's the difference between being dead or alive, a wageslave or free. Not to mention having money itself means you can decide to live where you want and not having it means you're stuck living in one place.	/r/MensRights	20/08/23 04:59 PM
10	Best Countries To Live As a Man? Southern Europe is the best place in the world. The combination of the best weather, culture, standard of living. I'm going to find a way to move to the south of Italy or Sicily or something or kms. I'm currently seeing if I can make it to the Mediterranean coast of Turkey before I run out of steam here. (I already have honestly but I'm still fighting.)	/r/MensRights	20/08/23 04:58 PM
18	Best Countries To Live As a Man? These perspectives are pushed out of most spaces, public and online. (you would of course go, "gee, I wonder why?") This is a place where people can freely share their ideas. You already won, these perspectives are not tolerated in the politically correct public discourse. Your ideas are dominant, prevailing, and mainstream in the media, culture and its output, academia, society, and its institutions. Why is that not enough for you? Why do you have to go out of your way to the one outlying niche…	/r/MensRights	20/08/23 04:57 PM
14	Best Countries To Live As a Man? Right, that's all true, but honestly woke isn't worse than Islam. Would you rather deal with the unique issues Iran has? Everywhere sucks for its own reasons, the middle east has socially conservative insanity mostly due to Islam, whereas the West has this religion to contend with.	/r/MensRights	20/08/23 04:54 PM
7	Best Countries To Live As a Man? The vast majority of Indians don't go on social media or even post like that if they do though so that doesn't really represent how Indians think. There's also no such thing as "Indian." India has one of the most vast array of ethnolinguistic groups of any country in the world. You'd be better off asking, "How is West Bengal?" "How is Tamil Nadu?"	/r/MensRights	20/08/23 04:53 PM
6	Best Countries To Live As a Man? It's the best country in Central America to live in. (along with Panama, but that was just an extension of Colombia before the USA said it wasn't.)	/r/MensRights	20/08/23 04:51 PM
3	Best Countries To Live As a Man? It depends on where. There's parts of the USA that I'd agree with you, others, not so much. Even within a state the experience of living there can so widely vary. You can't really generalize the country as a whole. Ironically, when people talk about the USA they usually seem to mean the outlying parts like New York or California which very obviously do not represent the vast, vast, majority of the country's expansive territory. (and do we even include overseas territory/former colonies here, lik…	/r/MensRights	20/08/23 04:51 PM
18	Best Countries To Live As a Man? The culture has issues but Spain has one of the best combination of weather and standard of living of any country in Europe, comparing it to other countries in Europe, you can't really go wrong with Spain, as long as you can afford it. Also, don't act like the culture is half as bad as somewhere like the UK. Its culture is far better than that and Northern Europe/Scandinavia.	/r/MensRights	20/08/23 04:47 PM
15	Best Countries To Live As a Man? Yes. I have family on both sides currently living there (but I don't talk to anyone in my family, they basically don't know I exist since I never was even close to my parents) and had a former friend that moved there and I talked to him about it when he lived there. France has a high standard of living and is actually a good example of a European country that is reasonably tolerable to immigrants, whatever their race or background. (e.g. Indian, Latin, African people) But culturally, it's quite …	/r/MensRights	20/08/23 04:41 PM
23	Best Countries To Live As a Man? Sure, that all makes sense. But all the people downvoting me are morons, most Brazilians who emigrated to Europe would agree with me, it's a major reason that Brazilians leave the country. The level of crime in public to strangers is at a point where it's just accurate to say that it's flat-out dangerous in most of the major cities there, even if you aren't affluent and take due precautions. I never exaggerated it or negatively characterized Brazil itself, I'm just telling the truth, I doubt the…	/r/MensRights	20/08/23 04:33 PM
1	Reddit cares about mens rights Reddit cares about mens rights lol And I just wanted to make this post. Because I see this sort of support for mens issues all the time on reddit. People in this sub seem to think the opposite is true, but I never see it, atleast on popular reddits. Entire subreddits and users get banned for advocating this. Reddit's admins operate on Feminist/Liberal/Leftism, this is not disputable.	/r/MensRights	20/08/23 04:29 PM
16	Best Countries To Live As a Man? But at least you're far safer in the Netherlands, which is probably part of why you moved.	/r/MensRights	20/08/23 01:56 PM
6	Best Countries To Live As a Man? Poland is pretty miserable.	/r/MensRights	20/08/23 01:40 PM
196	Best Countries To Live As a Man? British women are hopeless. I'm shuddering just thinking about it. Latin culture is incomparably better. Just about any culture is better.	/r/MensRights	20/08/23 01:16 PM
2	My Experience Dating in the Modern Age: The Viper in the Beauty And there are many reasons to live somewhere besides the dominant politics. Work being one of them. That's the problem with New York City. It's beyond unaffordable. It's miserable and completely idiotic and intolerable. The entire world is ruined by capitalism but all that city is is a testament to that fact. And people call it a great city. It's an ugly city. An ugly, over-crowded, overly-expensive, over-rated, insufferable godforsaken city. There are great cities in the world, New York isn't o…	/r/MensRights	20/08/23 01:20 AM
1	After 2.5 years of pure torture, finally have a trial date Based and Thaipilled.	/r/MensRights	19/08/23 04:19 PM
1	After 2.5 years of pure torture, finally have a trial date and the justice system finally functions as it is meant to be. lol	/r/MensRights	19/08/23 04:18 PM
1	After 2.5 years of pure torture, finally have a trial date He deleted the post and his account. He probably figured it could hurt the case to have this info up on the internet.	/r/MensRights	19/08/23 04:17 PM
9	My Experience Dating in the Modern Age: The Viper in the Beauty Nothing is worth it. I hate New York City. I hate Brooklyn. I hate most people.	/r/MensRights	19/08/23 09:12 AM
4	After 2.5 years of pure torture, finally have a trial date Whatever it takes to prevent rape durrrrrrrrrrrr	/r/MensRights	18/08/23 01:53 AM
1	After 2.5 years of pure torture, finally have a trial date True, but different situations could be different so your situation isn't necessarily applicable to OP's situation. I'm aware that broadly speaking the system and society regards it as the same meaning that there's a good chance you're right, but for something like this it still isn't worth coming to preemptive conclusions before taking each case on its own devices. ...of course, the problem precisely is that the system does not do this and operates on preconceived notions such that men are guil…	/r/MensRights	18/08/23 01:51 AM
1	After 2.5 years of pure torture, finally have a trial date It's rare and the exception that women, no matter how destructive to others and dishonest, act out of sadism, though it does occur. The reason people think so is that they confuse this for a combination of the trait that exists in many women of being innately unable to see men as worthy human equals undeserving of false accusations, maltreatment, over-exploitation etc. plus being ruthlessly materially self-interested in pursuit of social and material goals, while also obviously being enabled and…	/r/MensRights	18/08/23 01:43 AM
1	After 2.5 years of pure torture, finally have a trial date It is quite common for victims of false allegations to be ruined and exhausted after the long judicial process, and the last thing they want to do is to start another one. Moreover, it is not even enough to prove the innocence of the accused, she can claim that she experienced it as a rape or whatever bullshit. There is even the risk of receiving more false allegations in revenge or tactically. I can understand that people tend to give up, I definitely wouldn't have the strength to continue. Yes…	/r/MensRights	17/08/23 10:47 PM
-2	After 2.5 years of pure torture, finally have a trial date It's not even what downvoting is for, which reddit says itself on the site. Downvoting is for comments that don't contribute to the discussion, not comments you personally disagree with. It's for comments that are lazy, trashy, trolling, not constructive or off-topic. I think when we look at men's issues, as women are quick to blame men for their issues, we are to a similar degree of propensity prone to blame women in general for our issues, which causes a rift between women & men. But the blame…	/r/MensRights	17/08/23 09:04 PM
5	After 2.5 years of pure torture, finally have a trial date Doesn't matter, it's affordable and has good weather. You could live on a beach resort town and it costs next to nothing compared to what it costs to live up here and it's beautiful. I'm just talking pragmatism here. - That said, you are correct: Mexico's culture is Western. Every Western culture is Feminist especially at this point. It's not quite the same as the USA, being a Latin American country: it has many traditional and more conservative parts, (as does the USA of course) I'd argue that …	/r/MensRights	17/08/23 08:04 PM
-9	After 2.5 years of pure torture, finally have a trial date LMFAO, you got downvoted for the basic obviously correct point that the system as a whole should be blamed, as opposed to women collectively or the female sex. People here are mindless and evidently not interested in actually understanding the issue. What you're saying also echoes this essential article. (and it's obvious no one downvoting it has read it, because if they did they'd see that it totally agrees with the view that women are privileged in the West and Feminism is erroneous on this ba…	/r/MensRights	17/08/23 06:43 PM
7	After 2.5 years of pure torture, finally have a trial date Good question but the likely answer is that she's insane, thus couldn't answer that herself. I initially thought she could get money out of it. Maybe she did or at least thought she could. We'll have to wait and see what OP says if he gets back to our questions. However, if this is not the case, the only possible explanation is what this user said.	/r/MensRights	17/08/23 06:40 PM
2	After 2.5 years of pure torture, finally have a trial date And yet, a mod still removed the reply. 🤦‍♂️	/r/MensRights	17/08/23 06:39 PM
13	After 2.5 years of pure torture, finally have a trial date The USA is an idiotic, unaffordable country. I live in New York, near NYC, but I'm never moving back there because the cost of living is a joke. (I currently live where I grew up so I don't pay rent at the moment.) I sometimes wonder how anyone affords it, then I remember that they don't. I've known many people who left, as for the people still there, they're all overworked and barely getting by. And every other city in the country you need a car to live in. I want to live somewhere affordable, …	/r/MensRights	17/08/23 06:21 PM
7	After 2.5 years of pure torture, finally have a trial date This sort of nightmare scenario is more common than might be appreciated. The final chapter in 'The Rape of the Male Mind' by Michael Steane shows what can happen, all too easily. Do you know if there's anywhere online I can find a copy of this book for free? I already tried libgen and Google but there were no results.	/r/MensRights	17/08/23 06:18 PM
12	After 2.5 years of pure torture, finally have a trial date I hate the USA. I'm moving to Turkey, it's decided.	/r/MensRights	17/08/23 05:20 PM
43	After 2.5 years of pure torture, finally have a trial date Have you considered countersuing for defamation? You should seriously consider this if the case goes in your favor. It won't turn back time or take back all the difficulty of this nor would you likely get the total amount of money you already lost back, but you could get enough money in damages and lawyer fees for it to have been worth it. It's a question for your lawyer though, not reddit obviously, just curious.	/r/MensRights	17/08/23 05:20 PM
1	What the actual F It's mainly because we're entering a period of overt corporate fascism (the martial law and forced isolation of the covid lockdown was in corporate ruling-class interests and it's only the beginning) and the pathetic idiotic masses are correspondingly becoming increasingly more irrational and divisive to anyone who would say or think anything on social issues to challenge or acknowledge this. Note the emphasis on "safe spaces" and what this says about the utilization of property in the context o…	/r/MensRights	09/08/23 08:19 AM
13	Radical Feminism, media and the Barbie Movie. “Deeply Anti-Man film where Every Male Character is Either an Idiot, Bigot or Loser" Yes. And the female characters are all yasss slay queen. Part of my point with all of this is that ironically, it affirms a sexist view to women. Real progress and equality would be to show that both women and men are human and have potential. If you have to make comic exaggerated scenarios where the men are especially, exaggeratedly bad and fit bad male stereotypes, and the women in contrast are better, the message is, "the only way we can look at women positively is in this scenario where the …	/r/MensRights	23/07/23 01:11 AM
13	Radical Feminism, media and the Barbie Movie. “Deeply Anti-Man film where Every Male Character is Either an Idiot, Bigot or Loser" Exactly. You got to the crux both of the message of the movie as well as modern-Feminism generally: "we will keep the pretense that this is about equality, of course, but really we are interested in maintaining the nature of a society that overwhelmingly affords a privileged social and economic position for women." They then proceed to conveniently accuse those who disagree of being against equality-for-women, then go right back to saying shit that just admits that they are not interested in equ…	/r/MensRights	23/07/23 12:38 AM
3	Radical Feminism, media and the Barbie Movie. “Deeply Anti-Man film where Every Male Character is Either an Idiot, Bigot or Loser" To be fair, movies are written by people with views on society, and those views come out in the content itself. Moreover, movies play a role in the culture and zeitgeist, since they're then talked about by people. I don't think art changes people or society, but rather it's a reflection of the way society is and how it changes. (for instance, the movies in the last century didn't themselves change society, but watching them is an invaluable resource to get a sense of how society changed from one…	/r/MensRights	23/07/23 12:35 AM
8	Radical Feminism, media and the Barbie Movie. “Deeply Anti-Man film where Every Male Character is Either an Idiot, Bigot or Loser" I don't believe you deserved to get downvoted, you just constructively stated your opinion. However, your comment would be better if you explained why you think this way. Not that this would necessarily have stopped you from getting downvoted, so I see why you maybe don't want to bother, but feel free to write as much as you want on this. I'll listen, at least.	/r/MensRights	22/07/23 08:23 PM
5	Radical Feminism, media and the Barbie Movie. “Deeply Anti-Man film where Every Male Character is Either an Idiot, Bigot or Loser" I find this funny, considering I was always under the impression that Barbie and Ken promoted a relatively positive view of men. (I guess I could give the filmmakers more credit than they deserve and say they may have been somehow consciously putting a "spin" on this or the conventional social dynamics amongst extremely conventionally attractive men and women which Barbie has always encouraged, but even if that's somewhere there, it's every bit as shitty as everyone in this thread is saying that…	/r/MensRights	22/07/23 08:21 PM
6	Radical Feminism, media and the Barbie Movie. “Deeply Anti-Man film where Every Male Character is Either an Idiot, Bigot or Loser" Isn’t time for a generation of feminists to put on pink work boots and build something other than hated. Approval of the social premises of this society entails hatred from the people who inevitably suffer from it (isolated men on account of unemployment, economic situation, social rejection etc. obviously being the ones who are the most abandoned and suffer the most mercilessly, just look at statistics for homelessness or incarceration) by default. Because of this, the issue can't be Feminism i…	/r/MensRights	22/07/23 08:19 PM
24	A woman yelled at me for checking my watch during the Barbie movie. The whole theater felt cult like. No, the fact he didn't respond at all is the most effective possible response. Because it makes completely clear how hypocritical the woman was. She was the sole person who distracted the theater by shouting that, whereas no one would have otherwise noticed him. If he had responded, then he'd have been just as guilty for distracting people in the theater as she would. The fact he said nothing demonstrated that she was in the wrong.	/r/MensRights	22/07/23 08:14 PM
2	A woman yelled at me for checking my watch during the Barbie movie. The whole theater felt cult like. "pay attention!" What the fuck, why does she care if you pay attention to the movie or not? Why would anyone be like this. It isn't like your phone went off, checking a watch distracts no one. She must have had a latent need to cause trouble or be preoccupied with you. Also ironically her blurting that out distracted more people than what you did ever could, even if it was an iWatch that glowed up or something. (how else could she even notice it?)	/r/MensRights	22/07/23 02:24 PM
16	are most men rapists? Obviously not lol, probably this is rhetorical.	/r/MensRights	17/07/23 09:07 PM
25	Feminists think they are the moral authority I’m aware that this is what they do in an attempt to win an argument without any valid points, but the reason they think it actually has any validity itself is more interesting to me. Ironically this was an argument about “sexualizing” and “objectifying” women. Calling a man a virgin or incel says that women are sexual objects for men to use to prove how cool and worthy they are. I’m not sure how it helps her argument. Exactly, they end up objectifying themselves. If you dig deep enough, their l…	/r/MensRights	17/07/23 02:15 PM
1	What made you interested in Men’s rights in the first place? I'd rather take my chances living underwater than governments dropping their IQs to negative infinity by duking it out over some untapped resources or an economic chokepoint. Oh, they would. I put absolutely nothing past them.	/r/MensRights	15/07/23 02:20 PM
6	What made you interested in Men’s rights in the first place? If your rotten government goes to war, I would defect however I could even if it meant leaving the whole country. Why? Because in the coming decades you actually will all have to leave to save your lives, your country is an archipelago facing the imminent threat of being underwater due to climate change. But governments are insane enough to pit each other against one another even as they are literally sinking. So survive however the hell you can.	/r/MensRights	15/07/23 03:51 AM
7	What made you interested in Men’s rights in the first place? Such a constructive, reasonable and balanced post. You would never see a Feminist woman write something like this about men. Even if it followed the same basic line "there are some good men, but most men X Y Z..." it would be far more embellished, irrational, biting, defensive, and hostile.	/r/MensRights	15/07/23 03:49 AM
2	Circumcision safety Exactly, it makes no sense to gauge it on the basis of the % likelihood something could not go as planned, unless the person doing so approves of the act and end-result of circumcision itself on its face. This is really the matter-at-hand. Should boys and men be made to go their whole lives without their foreskins through no choice of their own, or should their natural bodies be left alone? Actually, the vast majority of cases of circumcision are effective and do not leave lasting unintended com…	/r/MensRights	14/07/23 11:18 PM
9	Circumcision safety There is a 100% chance of adverse effect in that the victim will no longer have a foreskin. This would not be even debatable if we were talking about girls and their genitalia being circumcised and mutilated by a knife in any capacity for whatever part of their genitalia was consequently missing. But there will always be countless defenders of this.	/r/MensRights	14/07/23 10:54 PM
14	Why is Men's mental health not regarded as being important? Might as well ask, "why are men not regarded as being important?" But to answer your question: to address it would mean addressing the societal root-factors that cause it. And you can't get on with being a complacent everyday member of society and do this. So they in fact go out of their way not to, by justifying it. (this takes many forms, but mindless Feminists accusing anyone of doing so of having it out against women is certainly one of the most notable, as you noted.) Which often leads to o…	/r/MensRights	14/07/23 10:18 PM
16	A Very Sad Loss Exactly.	/r/MensRights	14/07/23 09:26 PM
6	Women created the patriarchy Yes, Ether Vilar makes this argument in The Manipulated Man. (though she was not the first)	/r/MensRights	14/07/23 09:21 PM
2	My story and opinion on MGTOW and the hatred it bears Have you read this?	/r/MensRights	14/07/23 04:52 PM
9	Feminism and Gendered Language With these terms, the message is clear: the maleness of the subject in question is the problem. You said it here, the hostility to men is abject and palpable and right there in the terminology they use. Of course, when discussing the new manifestation of Feminism since Third-Wave it's also worth addressing when the terminology turns gender on its face itself—I'm of course referring to when they write crap like "pregnant people" instead of "pregnant women." This is where many Feminists themselves…	/r/MensRights	14/07/23 01:05 AM
1	"Made by women winemakers in support of charities that benefit women. Toasting to you in all of life's moments that matter." Yes, it isolates women as a political subject and by emphasizing that the charity is run by women workers for the benefit of women it implies they're the exceptionally discriminated against, suffering, underprivileged group in society. If anything this is obviously men, but our underprivileged status and the economically and socially favored status of women is so intrinsic so as not to be even considered noticeable, and it's for this same reason that women's issues are treated in such an excepti…	/r/MensRights	13/07/23 08:47 PM
30	Does circumcision really help decrease the possibly of getting AIDS? It doesn't. This subreddit debunks this and the other numerous lies that abound to justify it.	/r/MensRights	13/07/23 06:22 PM
13	I seriously don't feel safe in the gym anymore. That would be like if I wore a hat and if you complimented the hat and then I got all upset with you. She went out of her way to wear an outfit that displayed it. What does she want, people to not notice it and comment on it? It's insanity. And there was nothing remotely sexual about your comment on the tattoo.	/r/MensRights	13/07/23 04:56 PM
1	What’s going on with women? It wouldn't have happened with a male waiter.	/r/MensRights	13/07/23 08:24 AM
1	What’s going on with women? They're enabled to be like this by other men and women alike. We are the ones who face all the pressure, skepticism, scrutiny and criticism. Women will get away with whatever.	/r/MensRights	13/07/23 08:23 AM
5	Womenopause "Why is it menstruation, it should be womenstruation"	/r/MensRights	13/07/23 02:48 AM
1	Why is there so much misandry in society nowadays? Particularly in pop culture and social media? It is the unconscious process of the social dialectic, reproducing itself to meet changing conditions as men face new and unique issues at this stage in the historical development of capitalism in the Western world, namely unprecedented unemployment and resultant isolation, alienation, inability to properly have social relations, etc. Pivotally, Feminism plays a role in this process, but it would be wrong to characterize it as the cause in of itself in the manner of a narrow critique. Feminists …	/r/MensRights	12/07/23 11:06 PM
0	What are some good solutions for dealing with feminism and misandry A narrow opposition to Feminism would be ineffective and impossible. Marxism is anti-Feminist, but in a very specific way (distinct from the opposition to Feminism seen from, say, Conservatives) that understands its role in the capitalist totality, its usefulness to ruling-class ideology in general, (as opposed to the notion from many idiotic Right-wingers that it's propagated conspiratorially by a closed cabal of Jews, Freemasons etc.) and that the structural issues that lead to these issues fo…	/r/MensRights	12/07/23 10:48 PM
-1	Men's rights and The Left. Downvoting a constructive comment purely for disagreement is childish. Reddit says downvoting is for comments that don't contribute or are otherwise poor. More importantly, it proves my point, all who have done so approve of the whole of society no less than Feminists, your advocacy for Men's Rights is indistinguishable from Feminist Women's Rights Activists. It's unlikely anyone will read this, much less understand it, but I will now take the time to explain why this is contradictory. What it b…	/r/MensRights	12/07/23 12:02 AM
-7	Men's rights and The Left. All the issues discussed here have their origin in bourgeois society and capitalism as a whole. It's the entire social structure, which all variants of the Left and the Right, by definition, support. Your stance will be contradictory unless you abandon Leftist politics altogether. This doesn't mean not having sympathy to issues concerning women's issues, ethnic minorities, etc. it means recognizing that Leftists invoke such issues but are themselves part of the problem that leads to them. It als…	/r/MensRights	11/07/23 09:43 PM
1	Body shaming men is normal in this world Recently J.K. Rowling made fun of guys with small dicks lol and meanwhile, to these same people being a fatass is worthy of being glorified. You're a bad person and a bigot if you discourage others from choosing habits and lifestyle leading to them being unhealthy and overweight, but shaming men for the body they were genetically born into and stuck with is totally cool.	/r/MensRights	09/07/23 11:17 PM
3	Why SHOULDN'T men be angry? Both men and women should be angry, having to live in this awful society. It's the social premises that put us at odds with each other. Name any issue, such as custody disputes following divorce, government intervening in child support and so on. The women in the situation doesn't necessarily come out looking good, but it all comes down to the constructs, the marriage contract and property generally being the most immediately blatant. Consequently, it goes without saying that much of the grievan…	/r/MensRights	06/07/23 07:03 PM
2	Why is every "i hate being male" reddit post, always filled with people not reading anything the person is saying and immediately going to "women have it worse, women are secondary citizens" etc They're just mindlessly repeating the notions propagated by Feminism. The reason being not that Feminism is this conspiracy consciously disseminated to keep women in a position of privilege over men, but very specifically because it is useful to maintaining and justifying the premises of bourgeois society as a whole at this stage of the historical development of capitalism in the Western world in particular. (where it is most prevalent, obviously.)	/r/MensRights	03/07/23 04:07 PM
2	What do you guys think about the draft? Fuck the entire dilemma, no one should be drafted to fight stupid wars for rich people to begin with. The draft itself is the problem, and obviously 99.99% of history is men suffering it. Beyond that, it doesn't matter whether or not, in the modern era where we're almost at the tail-end of history and humanity's "run" at civilization regardless, women are forced to join in the suffering too in a few disparate countries like Israel.	/r/MensRights	03/07/23 02:01 PM
3	Women prey on other women in the workplace. Patriarchy to blame, not women's own actions. Personal responsibility can just piss off! They literally unironically blame "the patriarchy" for everything wrong in the world, so what do you expect? Of course any potential flaw in women comes back to that, too. (they're traumatized, self-defense, etc.)	/r/MensRights	26/06/23 08:31 PM
2	What do you get out of being here? A lot of Chad's are some of the most blackpilled guys you'll ever meet. Good point, but the way I see it a successful Chad that's blackpilled sounds more like a successful whitepill with good looks. To me, the blackpill and the whitepill are the same, in that they both confront reality instead of either the blue extreme of "just be yourself," or the red extreme of "you aren't doing enough." Whereas the blackpill's approach is hopelessness and despair (sad as it is I have seen communities encoura…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/20 10:18 AM