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Crazy coincidence that “your guess” is a standard red/black pill talking point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:28 AM
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Depends on the relationship Doesn’t have to be a problem, but you can imagine how resentment or lack of respect could turn things sour. But if I was single I’d certainly like to date a multimillionaire.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:47 AM
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I’m a guy and I just don’t get #1 As I age, teens at the age of consent seem less attractive than women in their 20s. And that’s just raw attraction. I cannot imagine for the life of me why a guy in his 40s or 50s would want an actual relationship with an 18 year old. I’m in my early 40s and if I got divorced I’d probably chase girls in their early 30s because they are super hot AND have some lived experience as adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:45 AM
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35 vs 24 is unusual, but yeah it’s not really an issue. Plenty of people in their 30s will get on fine with people in their 20s. It’s more common that people take issue with 1 - Online arguments that it’s ‘natural’ for men to want to have relationships with girls as close to the age of consent as possible because biology. And… 2 - Dicaprio style gaps of 50 vs 25 But you’re not arguing in favour of either of those, right? You’re just saying that a ten year gap is cool?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:23 AM
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I thought he might be gay, but then said that too big a dick would be an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:39 PM
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More drugs and alcohol is, as usual, the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:36 PM
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That a little much isn’t it? I read OPs complaint as wanting to be generally coddled. But if either person in a relationship is sick, surely you want to reduce their discomfort. Like, if your husband has influenza, a fever etc, surely you’ll make sure he takes medicine and gets fluids etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:00 PM
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Most people are social and fairly outgoing. I’m a guy and I’ve had terrible dates where the woman is quiet and reserved. And I know plenty of girls who have had bad dates cos the guy was quiet and reserved. Being quiet and reserved on a date doesn’t exactly scream chemistry to most people. We want to chat and laugh. So yeah, it’ll be tougher for you to find someone because you’re in a minority seeking a member of a minority. I guess hanging out at table top game cafes could work.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:05 PM
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1 - What about the tattoos thing? 2 - Is the real version of you sad and not confident?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:55 PM
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The concept of ‘being mothered’ makes my dick soft.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:53 PM
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A couple of things: 1 - What is the relevance of women having tattoos? 2 - If you have to LARP confidence and happiness, does that mean you are not confident and you are unhappy? That may be the root cause of your issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:42 AM
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I’ve got friends with younger friends - people their twenties - we go to festivals and clubs. I’ve also got friends with siblings who come to bbqs. They have partners, or they sleep around. They party and work and just seem like pretty normal young people. I don’t ask young people at the pub “are you lonely” because after talking some shit with them they go back to their mates who are the same age.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:38 PM
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I’ve heard this third spaces thing… but where I live in the U.K. it’s barely changed: We have libraries, arcades, malls, record shops, cheap bars and cafes…. And there are people out there. I’ve been to towns in like Arizona and Nevada and you still have arcades, malls, bars, cafes. So yeah. You are in control, avoid the online pity party and get out there. As for living costs, I was dirt poor in the 2000s, and a beer or game of pool is pretty similar as a proportion of minimum wage. Rent sucks,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:43 PM
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It’s all related isn’t it? Social media has affected individuals, and this results in wider trends. Covid also fucked over those who were young at the time. Economics doesn’t really come into it - the poor always have the most babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:41 PM
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Yes. That’s pretty much it. I would have been social media brained if social media had been around, and so i wouldn’t have become a ‘cool guy’
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:23 PM
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Yes. The main difference is what I wrote about in my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:37 AM
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Are you asexual? Or generally low libido? There is no feeling I have experienced as mind-bending and obsession-driving as that intense thirst for sex. Masturbation is, in fact, awesome, but nothing compares to that intertwining of…. Well, enough of the purple prose. It’s a hormone thing, or some other brain chemistry. Perhaps there are some birds who don’t want to build nests. They look at those other birds and think “What’s the big deal?”. That’s you. But that doesn’t make you wrong. Just in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:12 PM
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That is my point. Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:26 AM
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Eh? What is all it takes?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:54 AM
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Double bro. Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:52 AM
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Is “the oldest teenager in the room” concept blue pill rambling?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:41 PM
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To be fair those on the spectrum are playing on nightmare mode. I meant dweebs like me. Mildly obsessive about geeky stuff, and poorly socialised due to light bullying and/or weird parents. All stuff that the neurotypical may escape.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:38 PM
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My views of Gen Z are that most of them are just fine. I’m specifically addressing the bitter Red pill rejects that stalk this sub. I would have been one of them if this online subculture had existed when I was 15-18, and I would have ended up even more of a cunt than I am today. Ironically, with access to less cunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:24 AM
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You’ve missed the point. It’s not that going out guarantees pulling, it’s that the online self-pity clubs you have now are very attractive and stunt your social and sexual development.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:22 AM
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That was pretty much word for word me when I was 17!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:16 PM
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Is getting wet a sign of mild disgust?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:24 PM
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“Far gone” has a negative connotation. Like “lost beyond hope”. Is that how you feel about homosexuals?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:00 PM
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I disagree that nurture, even with the best intentions, works so well. And don’t get me wrong: I’m not saying that nature is so important that nurture can’t, in a perfect world, sort things out. But it’s just all so much more nuanced than that. What if your son is a naturally feminine queer? Do you bring him up like a girl? Do you beat it out of him?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:21 PM
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Oh no, the ones ‘raised to be men’ are often all kinds of fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:26 PM
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Yeah I was probably a lil harsh there. For the yuks. But the lonely do often have issues that make them not good partners, and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the spike in young people fucking less and having fewer real life friends is due to being culture-fucked by the double-whammy of covid lockdowns and social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:09 PM
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Only the shitty ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:45 PM
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Back in the Stone Age, some tribes would just plain old murder the shitty kids. Then the Greeks started fucking boys. I’m not sure where the golden age was that you want to revert to. I like the progress we’ve made - some kids can be nerds, some can be sissies and some can be macho. It’s all drag, and life is a cabaret.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:20 PM
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You’re seeking approval from feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 12:53 PM
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I don’t think I understand what you mean. It sounds like you’re saying that progressives don’t acknowledge that traditional gender roles exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 12:32 PM
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Isn’t ’boss girl culture’ engaging because it goes against the grain of traditional gender roles? It’s all marketing, all the way down.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 12:30 PM
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Different markets innit? Wellness and peace is seen as feminine. Drive and ambition is seem as male. If I was creating content to engage an audience so that I could make money from views and sponsorship deal, I’d follow the trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:05 AM
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Funnily enough the purity of my body and mind is unaffected by the fact that I have previously inserted my genitalia into people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:03 AM
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As a man, I think virginity matters at all, and that is because I was not a virgin before marrying. I was also a virgin when I met my first girlfriend, and we lost our virginity together. That was kind of nice and sweet, but I was a horny little fucker and would not have cared if she had had sex before. I think many men prefer virgins for the following reasons: 1 - They don’t want to be compared 2 - They see sex as an act of defilement 3 - They see bagging a virgin as a trophy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:00 AM
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Better to just have some balance. Live in the present, because being young is fucking amazing. It’s the absolute best time to live for the weekend and make (mildly) stupid decisions. But ensure that you’re doing so in a sustainable way that doesn’t leave you broke and physically wrecked. Purely living for the future is, in my opinion, not living.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:54 AM
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Are the social consequences in the room with us now?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:05 AM
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More like: let’s eat cake
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:04 AM
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To point out the hypocrisy of the guys who post about it. And for yuks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 01:25 PM
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It means very little. It’s a bullshit gender war phrase.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:16 AM
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I think that’s fair enough. However, anyone who chooses that route can’t then complain about being the one to put in effort and chase.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:22 AM
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I think the problem here is that we think with our dicks too much, and that leads to chasing and trying to manipulate women that we don’t really like into bed and then relationships. I’ve been guilty of this myself: Trying to charm and putting in ‘effort’ where there was no immediate spark. Waste of time. Every good relationship and good fuck I’ve had has been predicated on a spark and mutual interest. No ‘effort’ required when you both want to spend time together.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:15 AM
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Two things: 1 - Those things shouldn’t really require effort unless you are ‘neuro-spicy’. Either you click with someone or you don’t. 2 - Just give me the money. Then you have the freedom that money brings AND you can buy yourself a harem if you wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:37 AM
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I disagree there. Recurring discussions about men needing to approach, be confident and earn more etc are a combination of engagement bait, grift and autistic obsession.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 06:12 AM
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Traditional masculinity and gender equality can exist quite easily and often does in the west. Men and manly and both parents work etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:29 PM
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As a man, money is a prerequisite to DATING someone. I don’t want a leach.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 07:50 PM
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I’m a guy and the reason women are called hypergamous, shallow and materialistic on the daily is that the men who say that have had bad experiences and are 1) bitter and 2) telling themselves a story that helps them not wet their panties too much
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 07:42 PM
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So hypergamy is actually just preferring someone on your level?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 07:31 PM
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I don’t see how these social patterns, if they do really exist, matter. Why should men let them govern their lives? We are all free to behave as we wish and to associate with who we wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 07:28 PM
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I’m trying to explain that I don’t understand how “society” has an effect on “the conversation” in your examples. My example is my life, and I know that isn’t data. But is your lived experience different? What happened to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:03 AM
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It sounds like you’re just regurgitating stereotypes. Men are like this. And ‘society says this’ Is your life experience really that rigid? Am I so lucky as a man that I’ve never felt the pressure or need to conform to gender roles. I’ve cried and made bad choices and thrown my toys out of the pram over the years. My friends have rarely uttered the dreaded ‘man up’, because that would have been insensitive - and I’m a sensitive guy. Man up /s and stop giving a fuck about this ‘society’.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 08:45 PM
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What exactly do you mean by ‘society’? Do you mean online discourse? Do you mean magazine articles? No one has ever (as a man) forced me to ‘take accountability’ for my actions. And I see the same in everyone around me. Friends tend to give friends the benefit of the doubt, and sometimes we also deliver hard truths, but this doesn’t seem to be a gendered thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 08:41 PM
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Men on this sub frequently complain that women are golddigger or want expensive dates. In those threads people frequently say the men shouldn’t date those women. The response from the man then varies between leaving without a response or claiming that they have no other choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:16 PM
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I have never argued that anyone cannot complain. My position is that it is hypocritical to say women never take accountability when men often do the same. To your example of options… That man could take accountability and work on himself to get better options. At least, that is what a Red pill guy who accuses women of failing to take accountability should say in order to not be a hypocrite. That is my point. I am not really arguing anyone MUST take accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:00 PM
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If men are both paying for dates and complaining about paying for dates then is no different from women dating fuck boys and complaining about dating fuckboys. In both situations, it’s fine to examine one’s own behaviour and question whether it leads to bad choices. It’s also fine to complain. I’m saying that calling women out for complaining, while men also complain, is hypocritical. I have no idea what your boxing match sentence is trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:14 PM
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Need what, social progress or a loving and passionate relationship with my wife? Social progress: I like freedom Loving wife: I… love my wife! And I want to keep fucking her. Feels good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:01 PM
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It is not unrealistic to aim for love. Ambitious perhaps, depending on one’s situation. And protip: you can have male friends and also be friends with your wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:57 AM
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Is your position that men shouldn’t expect to have romantic, loving and passionate relationships with their wives? Is the solution to hang out with men and fuck boys like in Ancient Greece, or do we get to attempt social progress?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:46 AM
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Society blames both men and women for staying in abusive relationships. “Why did you stay” is a common trope, is it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:31 AM
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Replied to the wrong person before, so I just deleted a reply that would have made no sense. Anyway: You said in your original reply that your position is gender neutral, but you claim there is a double standard that favours women. So you are contradicting yourself. That is very clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:07 AM
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How less often? What are you basing that claim on?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:59 AM
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Really? You don’t think abuse or cheating occurs in relationships between attractive people?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:54 AM
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So your position is not gender neutral?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:53 AM
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How is your position gender neutral if you claim in the previous sentence that there is a double standard that favours women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:40 AM
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Blame is unnecessary. Better to understand why, and attempt to change. For example, “I end up with abusive partners because my parents abused me. I’m going to try to recognise the patterns of behaviour that lead me to these situations” Is better than “It’s my fault, and I only have myself to blame. I must be a better judge of character” Perhaps the difference is in word choice and semantics - but connotation is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:05 AM
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It’s fine to complain, but it’s what Red Pill men would call ‘failing to take accountability’ were it women doing the complaining. If we live in a broadly trad-gender dating world where the man pays, then this is the world where the woman is expected to pay with pussy and be called a slut or a gold-digger. —- And no, the fact that we are continuing to debate clearly disproves your claim. My argument there is that “Women don’t take accountability” is a hypocritical stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:01 AM
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There is a difference between ‘taking accountability’ and ‘being held to account’ In dating, it’s really only ‘taking accountability’ that is the relevant concept here. Being held to account by a legal system is outside of one’s locus of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 09:19 AM
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I don’t see how the ‘chasing’ argument is weak at all. My point is precisely that both some men and some women fail to take accountability for the quality of the people they try to date. Despite this, men on this sub claim this is a particularly female trait. I don’t understand your second point at all. We literally are discussing trends and patterns.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 09:15 AM
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Haha yeah fair enough. I think we have to go a little further though and add ‘well-adjusted neurotypical people’ to the top tier, and ‘bitter neuro-spicies’ to the lower - many of whom may be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 09:05 AM
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Are you suggesting that attractive people never: - Abuse their partner - Cheat - Act selfishly ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 09:01 AM
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Are you genuinely surprised that there are many people that you don’t click with? Congratulations on having passions and being interested and curious. Now understand that some people are boring. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:15 AM
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Man here…. 1 - I only see videos of synthesisers and cooking because I don’t engage with online ragebait (other than this sub!) 2 - If the first few dates require effort, you’re doing it wrong. Walk in the park. Go for drinks. Like each other? Make out. Feels like a job interview? Leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 09:38 AM
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From my experience, women and men are equally empathetic. Some women are bitches, some men are assholes. Don’t be friends with them. Simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:46 PM
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Isn’t there a whole society of online incels, redpillers and Gen Z guys to have your pity party with?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:51 AM
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Have you just discovered that ragebait exists? How many girls in real life have told you that you must believe X or they will dump you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:11 AM
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Is the wall of text in the room with us now?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:53 PM
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This isn’t the contradiction that you seem to imply that it is. You can show that you care about your partner without controlling them. Edit: didn’t see the scenarios. Scenario 1: it’s not controlling not to want your partner to go on a trip with someone of the opposite sex. Scenario 2: plenty of people would just feel supported by your reply that you support their decisions. Others would prefer a deeper dive into the pros and cons.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:25 PM
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Which women who would be able to buy a new vacuum and have the walls painted would also be told to clean “their room”? I’m sure you thought you were making a neat analogy, but it’s all a bit odd. Do you also think that when traditional men want their women to clean the house, they consider ‘clothes picked up’ as clean?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:53 AM
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Oh, we’ve had the DV apologists
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:15 AM
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I dunno man, I’ve been to plenty of parties where most people are uggos, and plenty of them/us ended up fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 08:09 PM
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Pretty much all pop, rock, and rap is about sex, regardless of the gender of the singer. Rock and roll was a predominantly male genre, and the name of the genre itself is a reference to fucking. Modern pop: Drake is currently number 2 in the billboard hot 100. Sample lyric: “Blow on me just like some green tea, baby” What fucking planet do you live on?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 08:03 PM
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Irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 07:59 PM
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Why is the first sentence of your post unrelated to the rest of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:00 PM
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I don’t see the relevance of frequency for me, as I’m a fairly average guy who people tend not to stare at. The escalation to further undesired behaviour is also irrelevant. Staring is rude. In our culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 08:25 AM
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It’s almost as if you are both pretending that the staring I’m talking about is hard to define and yet you do clearly know exactly what I’m talking about. And yes of course it is cultural and there are cultural differences…. And yes of course people look at each other a lot during dates. Nevertheless, when I go to the gym or on the bus or on the train or to a cafe I somehow manage not to constantly stare at the hot bitches. Because it’s not polite in Western culture, which I am a member of. Now,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:01 AM
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So basically your position is that it is fine to stare at people?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:48 PM
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You dismissed the all important point of nuance in your second paragraph by strawmanning those who believe there is a difference between a glance and a stare. But that’s the key point: it’s completely reasonable to glance and to know that you’re going to be glanced at. It’s quite another to stare or catcall.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:32 PM
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That was a lot of words to say “better regulation of markets and industry”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:21 PM
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Yeah, these are all sound criticisms of unrestrained free markets and a lack of regulations on the tech industry. Is the solution to ensure markets and industry are better regulated, or to somehow guarantee that average men get wives?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:49 PM
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Seems like you’re just arguing in favour of Red Pill: Average men need to make bank in order to pound pussy. In fact, if average men were guaranteed bang maids, what incentive would there be to risk-take and drive progress?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:16 PM
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You can call out anyone who flips out or overreacts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:59 PM
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Guys also flip out when they are called gay/bi.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:50 PM
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That was just satire, wasn't it? She using forced vasectomies etc as an absurd comparison to what she claimed were anti-feminists' complaints that women's freedom has 'gone too far'.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:39 PM
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So, baby is grown in artificial womb from cloned/GM eggs. How does this all work? A guy thinks, “Hmmm, I want a baby but I don’t want a partner. I’ll go buy a ‘womb-o-matic’ baby. So then you’ve got your baby, who cares for it while you’re at work? It is robots? I don’t think guys who are too poor to get a bang-maid-mummy are going to be able to afford robo-raised kids unless we’re talking about a post-scarcity society, in which case yeah, it’s magic land in the future and everyone (including wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:11 AM
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I disagree. Usually the point in this sub is clear: How can men/women find a partner more effectively. I don’t see the point of universally agreed sexual orientation labels.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:01 PM
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I understand the point of discussing what tactics are successful in dating: because people want to find a partner. I don’t understand the point in labelling people as straight/gay/bi. Or more, I can understand why we do it, but it leads to more harm than good. In your case, it sucks to be cucked, but it seems the cheating is the point, not the sexual orientation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:57 AM
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No, I don’t speak like that. I know full well how it goes. I’m asking you why you think it’s like that for men and not for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:20 AM
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No, why do you think men are scrutinised for exhibiting non-heterosexual behaviour, while women are not? In this particular context, surely there is a more detailed explanation than ‘because they are men and women’
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:10 AM
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The difference in how you claim men and women are treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:02 AM
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What do you think accounts for the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:55 AM
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Yes, that hypothetical guy is likely bi, if you really must label him. And yes, those women sound bi too, if you really must label them. However, why care and what is the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:47 AM
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Much like I’m not interested which dish soap brands are most popular, I doubt women are concerned with which porn categories are most popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 09:55 PM
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Why can’t you let it go?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:25 PM
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“A woman word will always be believed over a man’s”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:14 PM
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Free speech is not worthless if I want to criticise the government or stage a protest. And no, a woman’s word will not always be believed over a man’s: https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/jury-quickly-convicts-woman-in-false-rape-trial/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:10 PM
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My wife’s right to free speech was stolen from me?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 11:46 AM
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Would you like to describe your grandmother and mother as bang maids if they were SAHMs?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:49 AM
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Your double standard take doesn’t really make sense. According to Red pill, a top-tier man can have sex with whoever he wants. So, doesn’t that make him the same as the women? But if we look at a women who sleeps with whoever she wants… surely that’s only a bad thing if she is a cheater or raw-dogging and full of stds. Seems to me like sexual behaviour/history can be important, but for the same reasons for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:53 AM
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Do you know what the phrase “those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones” means? and in that context, you said “totally gross, may your house always have fleas”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 07:54 PM
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May you never have a glass house from which to throw stones ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:41 PM
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Oh, I am for sure a liar. It’s within constraints, but also absolutely immoral (context dependant). Was totally worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:39 PM
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When I’ve led women on, I could have been more up front and said “just so we’re clear, I’m not looking for a relationship and in fact I’m going to be leaving the country soon. So we can both have some fun, but it’s not going to go anywhere” Or “I find you physically very attractive, but you are very working class and I’d be ashamed to introduce you to my friends or family” In such cases, I would not have got my dick wet had I been honest. I don’t think it makes me quite a monster, but it was dec…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:24 PM
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He’s supposed to remain in the cuck chair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 09:24 PM
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Yes, we do. And we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 07:12 PM
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If women are not touching me during sex, then who is touching me?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 07:11 PM
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Maybe you should be more specific in your post. Really. What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:00 PM
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What boundaries have you been accused of crossing?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 12:40 PM
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I think reasonable people talking about what women want is fine. Women like attractive people, rich people, cool people. Many women also like guys who make them feel comfortable, or make them laugh etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 06:03 PM
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No, not at all. It’s men who subscribe to PUA who are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:52 PM
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I think the problem is that often PUA men are cunts, and that they ‘pick up signals’ that are not there
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:47 PM
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But they can’t learn social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:34 PM
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No, the men are often charmless cunts. The cunt part is important there too. They follow PUA because they are cunts. The cuntyness reeks through the misguided veneer of ‘techniques’
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:57 PM
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I think the issue is more that men who follow PUA techniques tend to be charmless cunts. (Hashtag)NotAllPUAmen
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:46 PM
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Well, one is annoying. And the other isn’t. It’s not a double standard because they are not the same thing. You can also ‘approach’ without PUA. And in fact, fewer women would complain about being approached if it wasn’t for PUA assholes being cunts about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:32 PM
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Makeup and sexy clothes are passive forms of attraction. PUA techniques are active. It’s very easy to ignore a women wearing makeup or swinging a budonkadonk in tiny shorts. Unwanted PUA antics are more of a nuisance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:15 PM
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Well, perhaps I could be more specific. It sounds like the totalitarian leaders who have tried to implement communism: Ok guys, do all this stuff now so that we can work towards a utopia. The reality for communism of course was to enrich the elites while the masses starved. And for this ‘have babies’ argument is basically: Let me get my dick wet so future generations may prosper, m’lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:51 PM
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Nah, we’re not all into family.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:09 PM
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Not having children doesn’t involve killing oneself. Though, that said, I don’t particularly care about feminists either ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:32 PM
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The neat thing about not having kids is that the future of humanity becomes drastically less relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:20 PM
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“Be miserable now so that later generations can be happy” Sounds like communism
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:10 PM
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So in order to have a super comfortable life women should have babies against their will? Seems not very comfortable. In order to be comfortable we remove your freedom to be comfortable?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:00 PM
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So would you say that romantic interest without sexual interest is common?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:59 PM
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Are edge cases your only examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:05 PM
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When is there a romantic interest without a sexual interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 02:31 PM
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Romantic attraction isn’t separate from sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 11:57 AM
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Well yeah, like I said: it’s like horse-riding. Risky but fun. And the risks are mainly to the participants. A society where the only permissible activities have zero negative externalities is probably impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 06:58 PM
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What’s wrong with casual sex? If it’s consensual then it’s no different from going horse-riding with friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 06:31 PM
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I think you have completely misunderstood. The women being attacked for having casual sex ARE having casual sex, and there is nothing wrong with having casual sex. The men being attacked for being rapists ARE NOT rapists, and there is something wrong with rape. Get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 06:03 PM
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But it is about them. It’s about women having casual sex. Men who are offended by stereotypes of being sexist or violent are not actual doing those things, are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:50 PM
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“Freedom isn’t good for productivity”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:36 PM
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What percentage of women do you believe are reserving themselves exclusively for the top 5% of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:33 PM
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Yes, men and women are not the same and have both different standards and different expectations. You almost touch on being reasonable in your post when you allude to the cost of falling birth rates and problematic gender roles. However, your shrill tone and ‘we need to blame women but then people say I don’t like women’ whining undermines your arguments. It’s not women’s fault that some men can’t find a partner any more than it is your fault that it rained yesterday. Here’s a way better take: A…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:24 PM
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Haha come on now my dude. If you are pulling in 200k you’ve got free time, then the issue is very much not your job. How about other factors? Are you in shape? did you hang out with your partners and have shared interests and aspirations? Did you lay pipe?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:12 PM
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Note how many of comments from other Redditors in this thread also have no idea what the hell you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:02 AM
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Is this a sports sub now?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:28 AM
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You want us to debate the concept that you have beaten some guys who have girlfriends at basketball?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:23 AM
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How do you know that of those 30%, at least one partner in all 30% take issue with the frequency of sex? What percentage of couples who have infrequent sex are actually mutually satisfied? How do you know that less than 20% of married couples are happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 07:22 AM
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I like it when my wife wears sexy clothes and makeup in public. It’s nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 08:40 PM
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To question one: Yes To question two: Because I find it hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 09:22 PM
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I mean a facial.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 08:44 PM
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I would never go to a fancy restaurant or a show on a first date because I want to do those things with people whose company I know I enjoy, and also not be mad horny the whole time because I’m with a baddie that I might get to dip my wick in. I absolutely take girlfriends to do cool stuff. But only ever after I’ve blasted a load in their face.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 07:58 PM
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He seems to be saying that hypergamy is in women’s nature and so it doesn’t matter whether they exhibit any behaviours associated with hypergamy or not. A bit like saying “Grapes are sour. Oh, it doesn’t matter that the grapes you have smell fine and taste good, because it is a fact that grapes are sour.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 06:17 PM
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What is insane is OP’s fantasy in which his ‘average guys’ on an island are gifted Victoria’s secrets models. We’re not talking about conservative family men talking about each other’s wives at a bbq. Still, I imagine it must be interesting to live in a situation where friends will ‘pop’ each other at a perceived slight. Sounds like you all want to be Will Smith.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 09:32 AM
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Yeah, I’d agree with you there. Drink and drugs are not something I’d recommend to anyone that doesn’t enjoy them or seek them already. But… they do make nightclubs a lot of fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 10:28 PM
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Clubs are for taking acid and mdma and dancing with your friends. You tend to meet new friends like this and get invites to parties where you can take acid and mdma and meet yet more people. Some of these people will be single and fun. Also your relative attractiveness is less important when everything is swirling around like Starry Night and it feels like your arms are their arms and they are all tentacles.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:54 PM
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Well, Einstein, it sure sounds like the main objective is: Me get pum pum. So good luck with the optics on your political crusade.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:24 PM
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Good luck increasing the birth rate without fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:18 PM
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Also true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:18 PM
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Yes, we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:17 PM
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If this happened, the men would absolutely also compare their women. “My bros we have lucked out. But I gotta say, Mark’s ho has the best ass. My bitch has a great ass, don’t get me wrong, but Mark’s has a motherfucking BU DONKA DONK you know what I’m sayin’”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:16 PM
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You want the USA, where people balk at the government providing free healthcare, to subsidise overseas travel/study/work programmes so that more men can fuck. You are dreaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:09 PM
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Out of curiosity, OP, do you want ‘a virgin’ or do you want ‘virgins’?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:37 PM
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That’s a bit like saying it’s a fail to make a documentary about house music because techno is in its ascendancy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:44 PM
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Your first sentence is contradictory because the aim of the documentary was to introduce normies to the world of the manosphere. It was a simple: Here are a few content creators who would talk to me. This is what they do for a living, and this is how they talk about what they do for a living. That’s it. Your complaint is a very common response that you see all the time from people deep into a subculture. “The movie/documentary/tv series missed the mark because its coverage of MY special interest…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:35 AM
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Nah, fucking can be nice. Plenty of contexts where it’s more of a ‘negotiation’. “So, can we fit this in here?” “Yes, but how about like this?” “We are in agreement”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 01:46 PM
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While of course your post is just ‘grrr I don’t like women’, it is a fun idea to play with. In proper counties like the US, there is no need for a draft. Just carpet bomb whoever the latest ‘bad guy’ is from afar. But, when it comes to small states and crazy states like Ukraine and Russia (respectively) - they do need to draft, so your revenge fantasy of seeing all the mean girls who you were too scared to ask for a date ‘cowering in a foxhole’ could be realised. And yet, when it comes to boots …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:16 AM
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I’m a dude, hen. But yeah, the guy I replied to seems to be complaining that his good deeds went unrewarded. I don’t think I’ve ever been rewarded or seen someone else rewarded for being helpful - other than a ‘thanks’. Thankfully, many people are helpful without expecting a blowjob or a girlfriend in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 12:50 PM
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You helped people in public and didn’t get a relationship in return?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:16 AM
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"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." Albert Einstein "Life is not a problem to be solved, but a reality to be experienced." Søren Kierkegaard “Women blame me for EVERYTHING” No-Rough-7390 One of these explanations of the nature of reality is not like the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:17 PM
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I didn’t say you were conservative. But you are clearly a whiner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:10 PM
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Your post and that of Violentshallot are a great example of the duality of Redpill. On one hand it’s all traditional, conservative values, and on the other it’s ’women bad’
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 05:01 PM
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Errrr…. No. The most important decisions rely on buy in from both stakeholders: Are we having kids? When are we having kids? How many kids are we having? Which house are we buying? With smaller fry, it depends who is most invested: Interior decorating Vacation destination Weekend plans
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 12:29 PM
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“Most people are laughing at them” Yes, that is how most people view Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:34 AM
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Huh? Who wants to be the only person in the world having sex? Don’t think I’ve ever heard that angle before. What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:31 PM
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And that is, itself, a shame. No-one should be shamed for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:38 PM
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Nah, it doesn’t matter. I was once quite inexperienced and dated a girl who was very experienced. All it meant was that she was very good at sex. I didn’t feel any need to compare myself to previous partners, but it does sound like a great way to tank any relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:28 AM
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Yeah, it’s a shame that we have tried up shame so much with sex. Kill joys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:23 AM
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How is a parent having sex before marriage disrespectful to the not yet born future child?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:22 AM
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Sometimes it’s just a fun dance with a sticky ending
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:19 AM
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It’s a useful term as those who use it are identifying themselves as the fox who said the grapes he couldn’t reach were too sour.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:02 PM
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Your reply is a good example of how Red Pill Men reply on a script of about six arguments. The Redditor you replied to did not invoke the just world fallacy (or claim them to be the enemy). Easy with that trigger finger.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:57 PM
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It’s a bit of both most likely. Sure, bitter women exist and will complain about guys chasing younger women. Sure, some guys are just into younger women because they look young. But, there are absolutely guys who feel the need to be the unquestioned dominant leader archetype, and they can’t do that with women who are experienced and have their own resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 04:14 PM
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Fair play. Game knows game. That ain’t be no nagging. No cap
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 09:09 PM
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I don’t quite understand what you said. And to qualify this, I am a man who has often embellished the pure truth when it comes to statements that will get my penis sloppy. Are you saying that women you date “nag” you when they doubt your intentions? Like, “nah, you don’t really love me, you just want to fuck me”?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 09:03 PM
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When they nag, the solution is usually self-obvious. When my wife tells me to stop dribbling piss around the bowl, I don’t really need her to spell out the solution. What annoying thing are you repeatedly “nagged’ about?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 08:54 PM
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I believe his main point is ‘women bad’. Thought process was “How can I write a new post about women + incel trope” In this case, it’s mostly a fun variation on ‘men logic and truth science. Women emotion and no good at speak speak’
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:17 PM
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This question is a bit like beating the fuck out of a dog for 1000 and then asking if you can feed it cookies whenever it wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 08:33 PM
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Wanting and feeling strong carnal desires is fine, but clinging to it as salvation is where suffering begins. At least, that’s the Buddhist take.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:27 PM
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Do you feel this way about all women, or do you find that you can avoid dating overly shallow people?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:04 PM
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Oh I see what you mean. Does this make you dislike women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:52 PM
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The person who I was replying to implied that the powerful do like women because they do not force them down the mines. It’s a dumb argument, and of course the reality is that there are many sets of men. Some powerful men like women. Some powerful men hate women. Some losers like women. Some losers hate women. There are not any powerful men on this sub complaining about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:51 PM
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Yes, I completely agree that changing the meaning of the word ‘effort’ means that being tall is putting in effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:44 PM
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I think that OP is saying that the men here don’t like women. They are not the same men who wield the power to shape society.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:43 PM
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I (man) didn’t put in any more effort into a date than picking a cafe or bar and showing up and talking. And the women I’ve dated didn’t put in any more effort than showing up and talking. But we liked (when we were compatible) talking. We both bought ourselves to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:37 PM
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“Issue isn’t liking women” “Men liking women is actually the biggest issue”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:35 PM
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That’s why you should start with the hookup and develop it into a relationship, if a relationship with hookup standard lust is what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:51 PM
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The point I was questioning was “can be replaced at any second” That phrasing seemed to me to imply that men in relationships should be in constant fear they may be dumped at any second. My apologies if I got the wrong end of the stick.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:33 AM
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If you can be replaced at any second then one of the following is true: You’re not a good partner Your partner is not a good person Things have a way of working themselves out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 08:37 AM
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I am a man, and this is funny. Do you live in a third world country, OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:12 PM
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I didn’t ignore the facts. I made a value judgement. Name a first world country with a greater than 5% difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:46 PM
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Haha! So women are obese significantly more often than men in shit countries. Great data man!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:34 PM
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Smh. Perhaps we disagree with the usage of planning, Einstein. For me, planning and game plan means thinking about how to approach a situation and what tactics to employ BEFORE the event. If you think than ‘planning’ means ‘making a decision while an event is in progress’ then I can kind of see where you are coming from, but still maintain that there is no rule other than “go with the flow”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:50 AM
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I’m a guy and 90% of the time I’m the escalator - I just don’t plan things. I read the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:13 AM
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Fair enough, if you like that kind of thing. Even thinking about dating in terms of tactic and strategy gives me a big soft one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:09 AM
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Just go with the flow. Not everything needs to have a game plan or rationale.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:25 AM
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As in ‘that’s a great photo of you’. He looks happy and healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:14 PM
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Looks more to me like the whole image is stretched slightly - possibly the ‘original’ was distorted and too thin. And they’ve added more natural skin tone - which is flattering if he is actually pale in real life. It looks like the exact same person, just a better photo. No biggie, and what is the actual impact: he looks better.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:13 PM
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What is sickening? It’s very unusual to have one’s face plastered everywhere in huge images and over the internet. Photos themselves distort the true image - so a little fix up here and there just makes the picture look nicer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:00 PM
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That’s an absurdly extreme position. People are MORE sympathetic towards prettier people. Whoever generates these images is just trying to maximise that. Side benefit; the dude looks great. Again, I’m not seeing a problem here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:56 PM
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I’m a guy, and if anyone puts up gigantic posters of me anywhere, for any reason, I sincerely hope that they pass my less-than-perfect features through a few auto-handsome filters. What’s not to like?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:47 PM
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“Straight” is the only concept we’re debating here. If there was a DEI policy favouring non-straight people then you could just lie, couldn’t you? How can any employer possibly rely on anything other than self-identification?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:24 AM
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I don’t think either need to be perpetual victims. And the factory owner and the worker both want loads of money and free time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:15 PM
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None of that makes it better to be a women, since they don’t want the same things as men. Of they wanted the same things as us, then it would be easier for both of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:05 PM
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If women were more eager to jump into bed with random men, men would have an easier time getting laid. If men tended not to pump and dump so frequently, women would be more eager to jump into bed with them. It’s kind of an ouroborian chicken egg deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:59 PM
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No one is choosing for the usage of ‘dog’ or ‘fish’ to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:47 PM
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No, you missed the point: OP was saying women have it better because they can have casual sex easily. If it’s true that “Most men want casual sex and it’s not easy to get it.” Then it’s only better to be a woman if “Most women want casual sex to the same extent as men” Most women want an emotional connection, and that’s hard for them to find, much like it’s hard for men to find a moist fuckable lady-hole. B
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:46 PM
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That doesn’t really work because “dog” and “fish” have always been “dog” and “fish”, respectively. There has never been a time in history or prehistory where humans didn’t define between dogs and fish with words like “dog” and “fish”. Sexuality is a far less concrete concept, and really individuals are free to define themselves and their sexy times as they wish. No skin off my cock if a guy who considers himself straight likes to suck cock from time to time. And if a guy who considers himself en…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:34 PM
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That’s the neat thing about labels, you can choose your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:16 PM
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Straight men can and do enjoy sex with men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:05 PM
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The point is that the thing that OP is saying makes life better for women is a thing that many of them do not want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:10 PM
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It’s easy for women to get railed by guys that are not really interested in them. Yay. Guess what, you can get your dick sucked anytime you like by a gay fella. If you feel that you are making all the effort when dating, then stop dating that person. If I go down the pub with the boys, I’m not seen as a threat by the boys. I (man) don’t give a fuck if anyone wants me to be stoic. I’ll express my emotions thank you very much. You are free to do the same. If men don’t get invited to things, should…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 05:29 PM
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I fucked way more in my 30s. I knew who I was, managed to stop acting like soooooo much of a prick all the time. Had my style down.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 07:32 PM
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My bad - I thought you meant “on this sub” not “in the world”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:35 PM
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No. I meant “on this sub there are…”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:33 PM
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Reading this sub, I conclude that there are lots of angry/doomer men, a couple of women who post rage bait, and a handful of reasonable people trying to make sense of the madness/rubber-necking the shit show Edit: misread as ‘on this sub there are’ not ‘in the world there are’
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:29 PM
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I’m a man. I’ve had dry streaks. I’ve been rejected. It’s been slim pickings. It’s also not such a big deal. I think any women could empathise by imagining times when they were a bit sad or frustrated. You don’t have to be a drama queen about it. On a side note, I don’t think many women can directly empathise with how crazy horny men get, and how that can affect emotions. But then they have periods, which throws their shit out of whack. Swings and roundabouts l.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:36 AM
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You’re telling on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:30 AM
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Fun facts but irrelevant to my position
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:03 PM
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Is that a “I know you are but what am I?”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:00 PM
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That’s what it means to bitter men who get angry when they see the word: FEMINISM!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:45 PM
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Ironically, MRA types, incels and RP guys seem to be doing the same for the use of misandry. Perhaps they will achieve their goal, and both terms will be thrown around willy nilly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:01 PM
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It can be used like that, as can misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:30 PM
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You don’t get it: If you want to control someone and subjugate them, then you do not love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:21 PM
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I don’t disagree! There are many shades in the unhappy rainbow of hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:00 PM
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Misogynists don’t want a relationship, and they don’t want to love women. They want women to love them, and they want to control them. Misogynists hatred from women often comes from sexual dysfunction - be that jealousy or undesirability. So, yes, misogynists hate women because they will not subjugate themselves. Misandrists hate men because they think all men want to subjugate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:18 PM
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I already said that misogynists and misandrists do not mirror each other’s language or slogans.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:31 AM
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I didn’t say all men were animals, I said that misogynists want to fuck women and also hate them. I mean, pulling apart your argument is child’s play. Misogynists hate promiscuous women for a number of reasons: 1 - Promiscuous women are ‘whores’ in their eyes. No honour, and lower than human. 2 - If the promiscuous women will fuck other men but not them, of course they will hate them. 3 - Some misogynists are extremely jealous. They hate women because they fear that they might fuck or might at s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:59 AM
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Your position falls down when you say that misogynists don’t hate women. Misogynists want to fuck women, but they still hate them. You are correct that typical misogynistic speech does not mirror word-for-word that of misandrist speech. Misogyny has its own hateful vocabulary.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:36 AM
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1 - Getting someone’s number in a club or bar while drunk/high is easier than carrying a conversation when sober/nervous on a date. 2 - Reeling someone in on an app is easier because initial communication is fairly generic. Face-to-face over coffee is harder, especially if you don’t click. I’m being charitable by framing face-to-face interaction as ‘harder’, but also it’s just the next step on from getting the date in the first place. A bad salesperson can generate 100s of cold leads by spamming…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:42 PM
1

CrossFit and spinning!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:12 PM
1

Nah this is that trope that the nice guys want a relationship but the fuckbois are more desirable. The reality is that the nice guys would pump and dump if given half a chance - and that both the nice guys and hot guys are sometimes looking for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 09:06 PM
1

I benefit from it and suffer from it. Not sure how hatred is going to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:39 PM
1

I didn’t do it. My dad didn’t do it. I practice selective hatred, rather than ‘select all’
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:30 PM
1

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:17 PM
10

Ashtanga yoga can be pretty brutal, and is a good companion to lifting as you ensure flexibility and core strength. And there’s a non-zero chance you’ll meet someone there who goes to psytrance parties. And psytrance parties = Acid and girls
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 05:27 PM
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Yes, that’s why the advice is to join a hobby group with a gender mix. Cooking, gym classes etc But the advice is qualified with: Choose a hobby you can imagine yourself enjoying and engage with the class before hitting on the bitches
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 05:18 PM
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Yes, that’s true. If you don’t have any interests with more of a gender balance, then going to a hobby group that focusses on something you are not interested in is a bad idea! Cooking is the winner though, when you think about it: 1 - If you don’t like cooking them learning to cook tasty food is a good skill to add. Cooking isn’t that hard, and it’s easy to make progress quickly. 2 - Cooking classes will have loads of women The thing is that you have to engage with the class and talk to everyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:56 PM
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3: Don’t join a pottery class if you don’t like pottery. Join a hobby group where you actually like the hobby - and then meeting women is a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:34 PM
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But since such a high proportion of men just want to get laid, the options available to women often are not better than just the satisfaction of sexual needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:10 PM
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Depends on what you want though, isn’t it? Yes, us men will fuck anything that moves. Women, generally, will not fuck anything that moves and also they often don’t want to just fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 08:48 PM
1

Why is it humiliating?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 08:18 PM
3

I don’t think sexualised comments about anybody are off limits. And if someone else did and was offended I would not give a single solitary shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:52 PM
2

Yes. Of course. It’s chicken and egg really.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:50 PM
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It’s just a standard insult. Same as saying he has a small dick, is gay or licks camel balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:16 PM
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Why is it important that it’s a mixed message? It’s an insult that attacks a common insecurity, therefore it’s effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:03 PM
3

Choose better
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:20 PM
6

You can’t be a real person!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 10:19 PM
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I’m a feminist. I’m not a misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:15 PM
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I (man) was about to strongly disagree that women are harder to get into bed on a coffee date vs a chic dinner date, but then you qualified with ‘drinks flowing’. Yes, getting mildly razzed does lower inhibitions! I propose changing the debate to: Getting women drunk is an effective strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:28 PM
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You said that “hair transplants are gender affirming care”, but going bald is normal and considered a male trait. Why would anyone need gender affirming care to prevent a masculine trait?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:52 PM
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But baldness does not counter gender affirmation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:34 PM
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Nothing manlier than a bald bloke. You should really be saying that a buzz cut at the barbers should be subsidised.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:14 PM
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The thing with all this is that there are several dimensions to consider: Being a good conversationalist vs being awkward Making people feel comfortable vs making people feel uneasy Being sexually unthreatening vs being sexually aggressive Being an asshole vs being kind And so on…. And of course looks/status/money IS important too. And the importance of these dimensions is different for different people. Bad social skills can screw things up, and (for example) being very nice and non-threatening…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:49 PM
1

lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:00 PM
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I noticed that you were making prolonged eye contact with me and touched my hand at the party last week. Does this mean you are romantically interested in me and would you like to go on a date? If so, please detail your body count, how long you have made your previous partners wait for sex, and how long you will make me wait for sex. Please indicate if you expect to go Dutch or for me to pay. If you have a feminist agenda please let me know well in advance of our date. Wait… what do you mean you…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:56 AM
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Well, yeah. There are no guarantees and people are weird. If a girl had been playing with my necklace and telling me smell good then I too would assume she wanted a one way ticket to pound town. And if it then turned out she was just being nice I’d be annoyed for a little bit but also realise that it was a lucky escape from someone who probably was really flirting and just doesn’t really know themselves or likes playing games. TL:DR There are signs and these indicators of attraction are a green …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:46 AM
2

Prostate cancer is a pain in the ass
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:39 AM
4

I hope you mean, “If my girlfriend has sucked a guy off”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:28 AM
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“I just can’t get the thought of other men’s penises out of my head”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:21 AM
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Once more, not what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:02 PM
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No, that’s not what I said. If I don’t believe a person, then I dismiss what they say out of hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:00 PM
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Has this ever actually happened to you or do you just read about it online?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:59 PM
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Everyone feels pressure. But it’s all bullshit. All in your head. Some people are hyper competitive, some people waltz through life, and most are somewhere in between. I’ve always been lazy, and often poor. Never stopped me getting girls and enjoying life. And no, I’m not a 6/6/6 chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:47 PM
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Weird. I’ve known easy girls and traditional girls - and they’ve always been consistent in their sex lives. I mean, what’s the situation here? You date a girl and she actually tells you “So, I usually jump right into bed on the first date, but I don’t want to do that with you”? Did that happen to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:44 PM
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It would depend more on the place that the conversation is taking place than the exact words used. If a Red pill guy was talking about it here… it’s definitely insecurity If it was a friend of mine in real life, and I know he’s a church going stand-up guy, then I’d probably take it at face value. And of course I’d give him a hard time if he didn’t practice what he preached.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:41 PM
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Different women are different. Plenty of girls don’t want to be seen as easy, even though they’re dripping at the thought of it on the first date. Some girls don’t care what other people think and just want to get down to it. Some girls aren’t as horny as guys, and need to develop a relationship before the juices start flowing. Generally, a girl who has been down to pound on the first date for other guys is also going to be down to pound for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:37 PM
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Well, no one can know the future. Safe to say though that right now, I as I man can do any job that a woman can. There are certainly very specific jobs that only a man or woman can do, but there is always an equivalent position for the other sex. If they ever ban men from being gyno’s you are free to become an expert in the male pee-hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:17 PM
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I’m a man and I don’t feel any pressure to overperform. If I really hated any kind of stress, I could do van life work fewer hours, and pick up slutty van chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:00 PM
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Apart from bearing children, I don’t think there are any roles that women have that I as a man would be prevented from doing due to being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:44 PM
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I (man) am not convinced by any men who claim their preference for low body counts is about character, or a lower chance of cheating etc. This is because these same men always end up using spiteful and sexually charged language when describing women who have had hookups or multiple partners. Terms like “ran through”, “cock carousel”, “open their legs”. Transparent sexual insecurity and borderline porn-brained jealous fantasising.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:01 PM
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I am happy, but my level of happiness hasn’t been perceptively altered by our chat. My point is to ask whether you think that all women are terrible, or whether you might be broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:39 PM
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Haha, tell that to the dripping pussies I was railing in my 20s and 30s when I was poor and offered nothing more than a good time, laughs and an average but fully functional penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:35 PM
2

What’s that phrase, if everyone you meet is an asshole…?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:34 PM
2

You mean heterosexual women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:28 PM
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I was poor from 16-38, always got laid though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:19 PM
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You seem to be confusing women with gay guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:01 PM
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Again, no. We used to go clubbing all the time as part of a larger group, and these days her and her husband cook for me and my wife, and vice versa - like little dinner parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 12:50 PM
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Yeah that’s fine - perfectly reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 12:48 PM
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Nah, I’m a man and two of my closest friends are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 12:47 PM
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Yeah, all agreement here. It was a silly example but seems your trans example is the same? If Bob the hairy Turkish butcher has secretly been trans all his life, officially transitions (no operation, but starts taking hormones) - am I bigoted to refuse his advances? Or a less extreme example - Kwan the Thai lady boy has a pretty face and a massive cock. I am bigoted not to date her?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 12:12 PM
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There are a few different scenarios aren’t there? 1 - Guy confesses feelings. Girl let’s him down gently. Guy persists and ultimately ends the friendship because his feelings are strong. That’s not fun for anyone. Guy has a broken heart and girl has lost a friend. Makes sense though and all perfectly reasonable. 2 - Guy confesses feelings. Girl lets him down gently. Guy gets over it and they remain friends. Likely some short to medium term awkwardness as the girl likely thinks residual feelings …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 12:09 PM
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Is it bigoted for me, a straight cis male to not want a romantic relationship with a gay man?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 12:02 PM
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You didn’t read the article either, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:59 PM
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Isn’t it awesome being the leader though? I am the penetrator. I am the one who knocks (on your cervix) I choose where we eat and you get wet I mean, it’s all fun and games, and uno reverse also gets me hard Enjoy life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 08:30 PM
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Now I don’t know what you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 12:14 PM
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Yes. I don’t think anyone is treating body shaming, shallowness or stringing along as extreme outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 11:50 AM
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That’s pretty much the only discussion I see here, when it comes to those topics. All extreme examples pieced together with vitriol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 11:13 AM
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Pretty normal stuff. Not pleasant, but… not extreme either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:59 AM
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Which of the things OP described have you experienced?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:45 AM
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But you said he wasn’t interested in her. So where is the deception?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 04:43 PM
2

And men will always whine, it appears! Best not to bother yourself with either strain of retard.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:06 PM
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And yet what? People are still sexist? Yes of course. People are mean to each other all the time. Usually it is of no consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:44 PM
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Wouldn’t it be better for neither party to whine?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:43 PM
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sexism is frowned upon
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:08 PM
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So, do you want men and women to stop generalising and criticising each other? That’s not very realistic. There is one thing that works right now though: Don’t get worked up about sexist generalisations that people make online.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:37 PM
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what value do a woman have for a man Friendship, support, fun
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:05 PM
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Are there any stats to back up the claim that MOST guys have been hit by their partners in LTRs?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 02:58 PM
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You hit the nail on the head! None of it is a good source of information. best not to get worked up about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:25 PM
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Do you think that Facebook is a useful source of information?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:20 PM
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And yet here we are, never warred, never will.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 08:00 PM
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Because OP posited that a few elite men did it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 07:58 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:50 PM
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Not, not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:49 PM
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To your first question: no
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:48 PM
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But you don’t have to do military service in order to vote in the US!?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 12:26 PM
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In which countries?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 12:13 PM
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I know, but your counter is flawed - see my previous replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:13 AM
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Yes but it’s bullshit isn’t it? You’re saying “no, it’s not women who are behind these issues, it’s men” I’m saying “The first isn’t really an issue outside of… North Korea? And the second is an issue but certainly isn’t on the agenda of any shadowy cabals.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:11 AM
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Is the draft really an issue? Do you actually worry that the US might enter a land war and you might get conscripted? Or is it really just a political football to pass around? Circumcision? Do you believe that the elites are secretly meeting and, between plotting to push down wages and raise living costs, have a few breakout sessions on… snipping foreskins?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:06 AM
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I thought you knew what you were talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:32 PM
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No. Not at all. OP is accusing a group of sensationalism and cherry picking, while also appearing to be cherry picking. Glass houses/stones etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:25 PM
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Why did you pick only the study from 2021 though? How does data from 2021 compare to that of other years?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:24 PM
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Why is it not fair? If I was advocating for a group, I would find the stats which supported by position, and likely I would (or rather a marketing team would) find out how to make it have as high an impact as possible. You're doing the same thing. Latching onto that 2021 study (which has now been circulating MRA groups and forums for a few weeks and is being wheeled out quite frequently). Why that study in particular? Is it that it is the one that best supports your position? How does the 2021 d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:24 AM
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Surely even if the stats used by the 'feminist-captured' institutions were far less scary sounding, it would still be fair for such institutions to push for their agenda? Your conclusion appears to be that 1) stats are bing twisted and 2) we don't have any meaningful data. However, unless we can be sure that no people in any specific group are being killed, then it's fair game to advocate for that group.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:10 AM
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Actually, if an emotional outburst is reasonable, then the thing that prevents problem resolution is the other party reacting emotionally. Emotions are reasonable, and so the only thing that would derail moving forward would be to label the outburst as some kind of affront. Instead, take the opportunity to listen - because that outburst (in this scenario of ‘reasonable outburst’) happened for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:21 PM
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I agree that emotional outbursts don’t help to solve a problem, but you appear to agree with me that they are not unreasonable. If like you say “that’s what the moment is” Then you understand why they are having that reaction. Would you never behave emotionally? And respectful follow up, are you neuro-spicy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:03 PM
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Typo/word choice error I meant that there is no situation where the variables can’t be tweaked to allow a reasonable emotional outburst. E.g. couple haven’t been to dinner in two weeks (unreasonable to lash out) vs 2 years (reasonable)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:44 PM
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I couldn’t disagree more - and I’m a man. Your position implies there is no situation in which an emotional outburst would be unreasonable. That is absurd, isn’t it? So surely, there must be situations where an emotional outburst is reasonable. You might not like it, but you should consider whether it was reasonable. Example: I cheat on my wife. She finds out. I’m sure we agree that an emotional outburst is reasonable, yeah?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:40 PM
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In that hypothetical example, is the woman exaggerating, or is it true that the hypothetical man hasn’t taken her out for a long enough time that it would reasonably feel like ‘ever’? There are lots of variables at play here. With one set she would be behaving reasonably, and with another set she would not. There is no scenario where emotional outbursts are unreasonable, and emotional outbursts themselves exist on a continuum from ‘barely perceptible’ to ‘freak out’. Your perception of what is e…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:31 PM
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It’s only harder if you let your ego get in the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:54 PM
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It’s no harder for anyone else. The level of challenge doesn’t change.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:56 PM
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People can and do hit on their friends all the time. There is no guarantee you’ll get a positive response, but friendship groups do tend to sprout relationships over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:14 PM
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You can never be sure. Thats I wrote the last sentence of my comment that you seem to be ignoring.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 07:47 AM
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You can walk up to them and ask them out. They just might not like it. I’m a guy and I don’t think I’ve ever struck up conversation with someone at the gym because I’m there to get my workout done asap. But, people who go to gym classes like CrossFit etc do usually chat because it’s a social workout.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 07:39 AM
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As a man who has asked women out: it’s not that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 07:35 AM
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Man here. We experience sparks too. It should be mutual, ideally! And yes, you might be wrong and still be rejected. No guarantees.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 07:33 AM
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It was a tragedy. That the audience is told they are doomed right at the start of the play, is an example of dramatic irony.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:46 PM
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Being confident means being unfazed by undue or unsolicited criticism
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:40 AM
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Someone should really make a revenge fantasy circlejerk sub for you guys. Oh, wait….
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:28 PM
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It’s only simple if women don’t have their own minds and desires. When the requirements of one half of a system are in opposition to the requirements of the other, it becomes complex if you want the machine to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:08 AM
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Yeah, it’s so simple: Cook Clean Empty my balls Shut the fuck up and let me play Xbox I am joking, but while a stereotypical men’s requirements maybe ‘simple’ they can also be in opposition to those of a women who wants conversation and companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:01 AM
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So, you don’t think that men often look for easy sex, and that RP methods like dread game and negging are more likely to work on those with low self esteem? Re: the whole edge thing, people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:39 AM
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I’d probably say “only go for looks” in that case, were I OP
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 11:27 PM
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Sure, men don’t just care about looks. Not what OP said tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 11:23 PM
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Redpill: negging, dread game etc I doubt there are numbers on this - happy to admit I could be wrong. Hell, the word would be a nicer place were I wrong. But ask yourself, Mr black pill: Is the world a nice place where the strong do not prey on the weak?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 11:08 PM
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women should try and make dating easier for men as much as they expect men to try and make dating easier for women. How? And yet some women still expect men to read her mind. Ignoring a problem doesn't make it disappear. No, I don't think so. It's mostly social cues. Perhaps what you are getting at is that some women don't really give much in the way of cues, or are just friendly and tactile with everyone. They don't expect anyone to read their mind though - they’re simply unaware that their sig…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 11:06 PM
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...we can try and make it easier for one another, or harder for one another. Depends what you mean by 'make it easy' really, doesn't it? No, some women absolutely do expect him to read her mind... Reading social cues isn't reading minds. Let's not pretend like women can never be the problem and everything that goes wrong must always be men's fault. There is nothing to solve - I don't see what the problem is. It's also funny that it's almost exclusively men who are expected to take all the risks.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 10:34 PM
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It’s pretty well established that plenty of guys go for pretty girls with self-esteem issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 09:40 PM
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“Men won’t approach a women they don’t think is attractive” “Men don’t go for looks anymore”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 09:30 PM
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That average looking people are in relationships does not mean that men (and women) are not attracted to good looking people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 09:28 PM
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Did anyone ever say that dating was supposed to be easy? Women don’t expect you to read their minds, but they do expect you to follow social cues, body language etc. Some guys are perfectly happy to play the numbers game and ask for the number of every girl they see, and those guys don’t care one joy about being rejected. Plenty of guys though will only ask out a girl if they receive some signals. Eye contact, hair playing, flowing conversation etc… But you know what? Signals are ambiguous. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 09:26 PM
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“Men don’t go for looks anymore” might be the funniest thing I’ve read all week.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 08:59 PM
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Yes, isn’t that obvious? Why would anyone want to be asked out by someone they are not attracted to? I’ll add the nuance though that ‘attractive’ doesn’t just mean ‘model looks, tall with a six pack’. Fat/facially-unlucky and short guys with good dance moves/humour/chat can still pull. It just won’t be as easy, and they’ll need to pick their targets more carefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 08:47 PM
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You are confused. Common advice from both men and women to men who struggle to meet women is: Step one: Stop being a paranoid ‘cel. Step two: Widen your social circle by taking up a hobby where you will meet people in real life. Step three: Pick a hobby that genuinely interests you, and if you meet a woman it is a bonus. Do not join the group with the sole intention of approaching a woman, because that would be creepy. I’ve seen it a few times: Autistic and/or socially inept guy complains online…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 08:17 PM
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I didn’t claim that gaslighting anyone is helpful. However, that’s not what we’re taking about. Women having different reactions to different people asking them out in different ways in different contexts is not trying to convince someone that their perception of reality is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 08:10 PM
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Nah, that’s balanced by stereotypes about men. Equally important for people, regardless of gender, not to take everything everyone says as the absolute truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 07:09 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:21 PM
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If anyone says there is a universal way to approach women you should ignore them, because it is obviously not true! You don’t believe everything you hear, do you? And as a man, I do not care one jot if some people of social media demonise men. I know that I am not a demon, and I conduct myself well. Don’t sweat the small stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:32 PM
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Well, I’m a guy, so I can only really speak for myself. And that’s why I don’t recommend telling women what to say. I just know that as a man, I am sensible about how I interpret advice from anyone: it’s just like, their opinion, man! And beside, I don’t think it is cognitive dissonance or hypocrisy that you have identified. The same women does not find all men attractive in all contexts, so of course will sometimes say “I want to be hit on” and other times say “leave me alone”. I have seen wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:21 PM
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I disagree. You can’t stop people from expressing their opinions. Men should just… be sensible and not take everything everyone ever says as the absolute truth and then get confused when different people hold different opinions in different contexts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:06 PM
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You’ve massively over complicated it. Think about it like this: Scenario A: If you were in a club, would you want someone you are attracted to to talk to you and ask you out? Scenario B: If you were in a club, would you want someone you were repulsed by, threatened by or annoyed by to talk to you and ask you out?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:35 PM
2

You’re so dramatic! It’s all horses for courses. 60% of women want men to pay for dates. Plenty of men also want to pay for dates, they like to flash their cash and feel typically masculine. the tide is slowly turning, though. “What we’re dealing with here” is the different people have different preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:55 PM
3

So, women are romantic if they find you attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:42 PM
1

If I ask out a girl in a bar in a friendly way, she is not going to yell “help”. However, no matter what I do, I could be the victim of a false accusation. That’s far more likely during or after a relationship than when simply asking someone out. However, like I said in my other comment, there’s greater chance of being hit by a bus. I’ll still choose to cross the road, and to fuck bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:43 PM
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More chance of being hit by a bus crossing the road. I’ll take life and pussy over fear and… my hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:37 PM
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Huh? What exactly is going to happen if I am talking to a girl in a bar and ask for her number? You know, like “Having a good night? Yeah me too! We’re heading down to (club name) later for some drum and bass. Oh, you’re into drum and bass too? Cool, seen any good sets lately? Nice, anyway I’m heading back over to my mates but can I get your number, it’s not every day I meet someone cute who’s a raver too” Like… trial by social media??? Nah… you’re dreaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:36 PM
-2

The solution of course is to not worry what morons say on social media, and to know that deep down men and women like to fuck and have relationships. Men who are too scared to ask women out need to ask themselves what is more important: A moment of embarrassment and rejection, or getting to dump their load into a vagine. I don’t doubt that there are a lot of scaredy-cats out there… more flange for the brave!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:42 PM
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Do you mean like approaching random women in public? To be honest I’ve never understood that. In a bar, sure… and in bars it’s still fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 01:53 PM
0

Why would a man be more afraid now? Because of nonsense on social media?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 01:21 PM
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I don’t think men are fucking fewer women because they are seen as too safe and concerned with consent. Was that your point? Surely it’s more that social media + a global pandemic has fucked with the heads of a generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 01:13 PM
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Those stats show a small drop in the number of men who when surveyed say that they are looking for a relationship. Big woop! If bitter, red-pilled losers bow out of the dating game, it just makes it easier for us socialised fuck bois to get our dicks wet. So please, by all means, stay away from our women 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 12:58 PM
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Dude, I am a man! It is very easy to ask people out. You just ask them! And yes, women do reciprocate, otherwise there would be no couples out there. All we have now is that the dregs are able to share their doomer fantasies online.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 12:50 PM
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I would say that for courtship that is mostly true. However (and I say this as a man), it’s very minor stuff. On the whole, men are the ones who ask a woman out. That takes a little courage and very little effort. Being rejected isn’t nice, but if you think it’s a big deal then you’re really very weak. Personally, I’ve only really put in any considerable amount of effort twice in my life - and that was because the woman didn’t really want a relationship. And what was the effort? Just a couple of…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 12:45 PM
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Your experience sounds very, very unusual.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 12:13 PM
14

Well I guess if that’s all you bring to the table, then yeah that can happen. Thankfully, I don’t need to cope. I’ve never been rich and have always done well with women. First dates have always been drinks/coffee or a walk. Girlfriends have always shared rent and bills when we lived together. Am now married. Wife earns slightly less than me and we still split things. But informally - I’ll pay for one holiday, she’ll pay for the next - that kind of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:57 AM
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Nah, ugly couples do this kind of thing too. It’s certainly easier if you’re very attractive, just like it’s easier if you are very rich. I’m neither and it’s never stopped me. But you have to bring SOMETHING to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:44 AM
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If a women made a post that said most men are abusive, and that examples of men who are not abusive are the exception, then I would disagree but I would also likely not get involved in the discussion because I’m not a woman and have no way of truly understanding that perspective. But, I am a man, and I am experienced with women, so I will give advice. Besides, it’s very easy to determine whether a women cares too much about money: First few dates are walks, cheap drinks, coffee and a hard dickin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:20 AM
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Spending money is one dimension of a multi-dimensional concept that means different things to different people. I don’t doubt that I could find women who do think as you say. Hell, it would be easy: Go to a bar and find the traditional princess type. I’m sure some men also prefer those kind of women. It sounds like you don’t though, and neither do I. Here’s the good news: You don’t have to date these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:59 AM
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That’s ridiculous. Few people can afford that. If you are loaded, then sure it’s nice and why not. I’ve always split things equally, and so does almost everyone I know. These days, living in modern cities is very expensive and couples tend to both be earners. The most romantic memories I have are divorced from money: Cooking a meal at home (I’ve done this and had this done for me) Candles and a bath together with a glass of wine and music Walks in the snow Getting cosy on the sofa and rubbing ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:56 AM
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Not really. You’re just confusing spending money with being romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:50 AM
23

I have split bills on dates and I am also seen as romantic. Being romantic = being loving and thoughtful in a sexual relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:42 AM
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You seem to be confusing ‘paying for things, with ‘being romantic’
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:30 AM
3

Many people are nice, shy, boring doormats. Nice, but dull, and often sad deep down. Not fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 10:10 AM
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Not redpill so posting here: Your experience will be dismissed as not relevant because it is one data point. Which is fair. Some may say that simply being tall and handsome puts you above average. However, I’m pretty similar to you, OP, and have also had similar experiences - as has everyone I’ve ever known in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 11:12 AM
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No. Up tight wankers get butt hurt. Dudes rock and roll. Choose your path.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 11:26 PM
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The men who are complaining about women on the internet are not the men who dictate society.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 02:56 PM
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Do you feel shamed when you read what a moron says online?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 04:24 PM
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Irony alert
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 03:21 PM
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Not having those figures makes your claim that it “must be” similar pretty ropey. What are is the percentage of people (men and women both) who are victims of SA, and what is the percentage of people (men and women) who have been falsely accused.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 10:36 PM
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Are there any figures on the percentage of women who have been SA’d vs the percentage of men who have been falsely accused?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 08:00 PM
-1

Right, another reason not to extrapolate, yeah?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 07:48 PM
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I don’t know why you would extrapolate those number without taking into account SA that is not reported at all
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 07:39 PM
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That says that 11% of men say they have been falsely accused. But had those men been falsely accused? What percentage of them are men who had been found guilty, and who continue to claim they are innocent?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 07:38 PM
1

One in ten men have been falsely accused? If that is the case, then I hold my hands up and say you have a good case. Do you have a link for those numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 07:09 PM
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But what are the chances, man or women, of being falsely accused?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 07:05 PM
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“All the time” is doing a lot of heavy lifting in your title. What, OP, are the chances of being falsely accused as a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 07:02 PM
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I think there’s a false dichotomy here. There is no stark choice between feminism and being Red pill. I’m a man, and you’d call me blue pill. I do like some of the ideas and a broadly support basic equality type feminism. Has never really impacted my life or required anything of me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 08:44 AM
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I’ll continue to bite, but I do suspect that you don’t even know where you’ve gone wrong! The victims were responsible for their decision to go to work. And yet, they bore no responsibility whatsoever for being killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:12 PM
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You’re really flailing now! Shall I remind you of the discourse so far? I shall: 1 - You say everyone is responsible for their choices 2- I give the example of 9/11 victims 3- you say that they could not have foreseen such an outcome from such reasonable behaviour 4 - I remind you that you said there is aways A degree of responsibility 5 - you flip flop again and say that “oh no, there is a degree of responsibility”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:53 PM
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I’ll play. I think you’ve been fucked over, or dealt a raw deal. Probably more than once. Your turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:40 PM
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No, not “Exactly”. You said that if an individual experiences a negative outcome that TO SOME DEGREE, their decision making contributes to that outcome” Now you are rolling back and saying that it depends on the severity of the outcome and the normality of the behaviour. How about you act like a man and take accountability for your shite arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:38 PM
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OP makes the claim that women say the things he claims, but OP fails to make a convincing canes that those arguments exist. Am I supposed to just agree with an argument that has no logic? Is this a forum for feels?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:33 PM
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So why not say that more clearly (because there’s a lot to unpack there!)? I mean, how are the relationships with the women in your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:30 PM
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You fail logic 101. Person A says: Blue people say red people are green. Person B says: Blue people don’t say red people are green. You claim that A agrees with B.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:27 PM
3

Do you think this common behaviour that we can extrapolate from?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:25 PM
18

Did you get a hate-boner when you typed that out?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:23 PM
12

No, because OP is saying that people are saying those things. I am saying that no one is saying those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:22 PM
6

By that logic the 9/11 victims were responsible for their choice to go to work that day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:20 PM
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Who are these women, they sound like a deluded RP fantasy, or TikTok Ragebait
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:19 PM
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This is the strawmanniest argument that ever strawmanned. It’s like strawmanny-mc-strawman. If a strawman fucked a strawman and had strawman babies, they would exhibit fewer strawman traits than your post. No one is saying that finding women attractive or not wanting women to cheat on me is either objectifying or controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:11 PM
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How many women do you know in your personal life who are dating Jimmy the gangbanger, and do you life in Compton in the mid-to-late 90s?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 08:41 PM
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Your logic appears to be: Some women claim to be able to smell red flags a mile off. Some women are unable to do this. Therefore: All women fail to take accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 08:39 PM
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It’s pretty accurate for how it feels if you’re not up for it. I’m a straight guy and in gay clubs the feeling of a pushy guy trying to close the deal is very much like being the prey. Of course, it’s no big deal. And the metaphor is no big deal either. And of course again, I’m not saying OP is pushy, but I’ve been the guy ‘on the hunt’ for women, and the metaphor felt apt not because I was pushy, but because I liked the macho label of being a hunter!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:27 PM
0

Same word, slightly different meaning. When used as a phrase ‘have confidence in’: Meaning 1) To have confidence in something happening = be certain about something Meaning 2) To have confidence in yourself = to be self-assured and not anxious So yes, you can be confident that you will fail. And you can be confident you will win. If you just say he/she is confident/has a lot of confidence, then we take it to mean that they are self-assured.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:14 PM
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That is a contradiction. Anyway, the use of such labels depends on the perspective of the labeller. For example, I am sex positive, so I don’t call anyone a whore in real life. A man or a woman who had lots of sex is just a person with a high libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:48 AM
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If you hate women, then sleeping with them only addresses your libido, and not your need for partnership/love
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:46 AM
2

A male version of a woman who has lots of casual sex is a man who doesn’t have any sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:13 AM
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A heterosexual man who hates women will always be lonely, even if he lays pipe on the reg.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 09:52 PM
0

That’s a bit of a toddler-like perspective. Perhaps if you lie on the floor in the supermarket and pound your fists, you will get what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 09:09 PM
0

That’s a bit like saying “I would only be happy if the bank gave me money whenever I asked”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 09:00 PM
2

Rather than address my point you tell me that my wife is cheating on me. Forgive me if I take your comment with a pinch of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:51 PM
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You’re doing that typical male solipsism thing again by extrapolating your personal experiences to a wider trend. Yes, you may be an outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:45 PM
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It’s sour grapes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 01:29 PM
2

Don’t both men and women tend to work these days? Earning a higher salary doesn’t equal working harder either. I’m a man, and I earn more than my partner, but my work is more stimulating and I have greater freedom re: work/life balance than my wife who is in a lower position and is a slave to targets and monitoring. But, of course, both men and women bring more to a relationship than money/work/reproduction. There is support, fun, love, excitement etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 01:27 PM
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It’s a bit of an RP fantasy so they can call women whores, while at the same time wishing that they could be whores themselves. Of course some women have lots of sex, and thank the lord that they exist! What’s the actual percentage? I couldn’t give a shit. I hope it’s high, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 01:21 PM
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Aren’t you doing the same thing as OP? Working in nightlife you will be surrounded by people who have more casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 01:16 PM
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Pro: It helps me cum faster if I want to jack it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 11:33 AM
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Men want casual sex too. When I was in my man-whore phase I needed them lady-whores. And not just casual sex. Having a series of partners from your teen years to your thirties is just plain ol’ awesome. I’m sure just having a beautiful filet mignon your whole life is nice enough, but plenty of us want the full tasting menu.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 08:40 PM
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Not “Are you fucking other men” but “Are you being fucked by other men”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 04:43 PM
2

But what do you REALLY want for Christmas?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:15 PM
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Odd use of the passive
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:14 PM
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More like: I wouldn’t portray shop owners as delusional and entitled for raising food prices when they are raising food prices because of traditional attitudes against shop owners in my country.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 05:07 PM
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I did blame men for having a preference. I asked why it’s important to you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 03:41 PM
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Why is it important for your wife to be a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 03:16 PM
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I would ask that you meditate on attitudes to women generally in Turkey. Think about your attitudes to women, and whether you truly respect them and value their freedom and opinions. Because if I had grown up in Turkey, I’d probably be quite sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 02:59 PM
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I’m a man, but I wouldn’t be complaining about gender issues that relate to not getting laid when there are women being murdered for sleeping around.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 02:50 PM
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I’m not so sure I would be down to pound if honour killings were on the menu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femicide_in_Turkey
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 02:33 PM
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It’s a comedy podcast
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 07:18 AM
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Again, the way you deliver the message is important. In the examples so far you have sounded moody or dismissive. If a man says, “Do what you want” that is indeed neutral If a man says, “Do what you want, I don’t give a shit” that is moody and dismissive. I don’t see how any of this relates to insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 06:53 PM
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Of course you can be nice and controlling. That is bad. I didn’t argue in favour of that. Here’s some simple logic: Controlling but said in a nice way = bad Controlling in a moody/dismissive way = bad Lassez Being dismissive and moody = bad
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 06:33 PM
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It’s how you say something changes the meaning. Your example was “You’re your own person, I don’t give a shit” That sounds like a dismissive or moody reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 06:17 PM
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Apologies for making a caricature of your caricature. As pretty much every other person who replied to you has said, there are more options than being controlling or dismissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 05:59 PM
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Yes, there are only two possible ways to reply to the woman in your hypothetical: “Don’t you DARE go out dressed that you FUCKING WHORE” And “Bitch, I ain’t finna be no stylist. You do you.” Why are women so difficult to please!?!??
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 05:22 PM
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Works both ways doesn’t it? Women who say all men are trash are the fox Men who say the juice ain’t worth the squeeze are the fox
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 03:03 PM
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That guy looks like a nerdy, basement swelling fat fuck. And just… ugly. Are there uglier people? Sure. My main point though was it is not hot people who are abusing. In fact, even though i don’t really agree, for the sake of argument I will concede that I am wrong and this guy is objectively bang average. Makes no difference to the core argument that looks are not related to likelihood of committing domestic abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:55 PM
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I’m a man, but dude, that dude is fugly. Like Redditor mod fugly (I jest!). Anyway, now it’s just opinion. I’m saying the pictures I see support my view, and you are saying that support your view.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:46 PM
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I expect this particular man is an outlier because he is very ugly. Most men are not this ugly! But just google image for ‘male domestic abuse prison’ and it’s not exactly a gallery of 7s 8s and 9s! More like rough and bang average, with a few handsome guys and a few fuck ugly guys. I mean, you don’t actually have any evidence to the counter other than your feels, do you? You also seem to be implying that hot men WILL be assholes, which doesn’t make sense. Hot men, average men and ugly men can a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:33 PM
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I didn’t say the world does revolve around me. It doesn’t revolve around you either! So I guess we are all free to make our own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:03 PM
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It’s an example that shows that ugly men do abuse women, despite it not making sense to you. Do you have any data on the rates of abuse by good looking vs ugly men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:03 PM
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I don’t see how you can expect people to find a partner that they don’t find attractive. To your second point, ugly men do abuse women: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1wp572yljeo.amp
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 11:49 AM
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What is your logic here? 1 - Women shouldn’t date men that they find attractive, because those men might abuse them 2 - Unattractive men do not abuse women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 11:38 AM
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Why should women lower their standards for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 11:22 AM
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What do you mean, are you actually not in favour of these rules being strictly enforced?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 07:30 AM
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What’s the difference between allowing only one partner ever, and banning serial monogamy? And how do you enforce this rules?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 07:25 AM
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How would ‘strictly enforced monogamy’ work? Only one partner at a time, or only one partner ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 07:22 AM
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Evasion
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:53 AM
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Well, you write that feminists should push women to do things that they don’t want to do. It’s a very odd post, but if you’re just complaining that men are stigmatised and discouraged by feminism from doing bad things like stealthing and being dead-beat dads, then we can only conclude that you are in favour of such behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 11:53 PM
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Perhaps you’ve noticed, but relationships and jobs are not the same. If we force women to date you, what happens when they don’t like you or want to have children with you? What policies exactly do you want to implement? If we look at your second point about sacrifice - then it’s possible to be quite reasonable. Men and women often make sacrifices for each other, and actually people even have sex when they don’t really feel like it, for any number of reasons from trying to get pregnant to trying…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 11:29 PM
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So many of these argument boil down to “I wish society would force women to date me” And isn’t saying that women should have sex “when they don’t feel like it” forcing women to have sex against their will?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 10:33 PM
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I’m a man and I don’t think of sex as the primary display of affection. ‘Affection’ literally means ‘a gentle feeling of fondness/liking’ Affection is footrubs, handholding and couch snuggles. Sex is raw animal passion and intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 10:17 AM
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I do love sticking my dick in a sunset
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:14 PM
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Could you quantify the difference in neural signal transmission that results from being, say 6’1” compared to 5’1”?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:10 PM
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No, the only fallacy is your original strawman. OP compares it to maths, you would prefer if he compared it to humanities. He doesn’t. Sorry. It doesn’t matter what other posts talk about- OP talks specifically about evo-psych. Also, no double standard. There is no requirement to complain about every subset of the humanities. You’re now doing whataboutism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 11:52 AM
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You are fabricating the object of comparison. It’s literally a strawman. OP said “Evo-psych is sub par” OP said that proof-based mathematics is more rigorous. Therefore, the only logical object of comparison, and a tougher position to argue against, is that evo-psych is sub-par compared to proof-based mathematics. But you fabricate an easy object of comparison to argue against, one that OP didn’t mention or allude to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 11:42 AM
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I’m going to have to only address your first point, because it’s seems in such opposition to reality that I can’t get over it! 1 - I said that OP doesn’t not argue that evo-psych is sub par COMPARED TO OTHER HUMANITIES 2 - you say “Please - what’s in the header of the post” So, the head of the post says that eco-psych is sub-par. But once again; OP does not say that this is in comparison with other humanities.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 10:49 AM
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I think it’s a stretch to compare animal and human art, when human art takes so many forms and is so much more complex. The quality is subjective but the complexity is what sets it apart. But… we also have science, computers, the internet and rocket ships. We’ve also worked out the effect gravity has on the relative passage of time and have built technology that implements that knowledge. Maths. That’s a fairly big one. Medicine, hospitals, transplant surgery. Nachos.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 10:35 PM
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We already know we’re more complex than any other animal. No other animal has a written language or a culture of art
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:03 PM
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Nowhere does OP argue that evo-psych is sub par compared to other humanities. Only you have said that. Apart from that, you appear to entirely agree with OP that such research is rarely fit for purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 04:55 PM
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So you support OP’s assertion that evo-psych is unreliable and lacks validity?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 04:31 PM
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There’s a few guys in my gym who wear skintight Lycra with as much exposed as possible. I’m a guy, but I have to admit, they look hot. Nice bodies are nice to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:37 PM
2

Isn’t DEI etc being rolled back in the US now anyway? Do you just want people not to be able to say they are feminist or make fun of you in the media?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:54 PM
2

I’m sure that if you asked some of them, they would say it was their duty. But how many? And Why? No wide scale study was done (or was likely even possible), and now we’ve missed the boat. So your claim is unfalsifiable. I world go further and say that the only duty that exists is to not cause direct harm to another. Choosing not to have children doesn’t cause harm unless one person in the relationship wants children - in which case forcing either party to live in opposition to their desire is i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 06:59 PM
0

Ironic!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 02:09 PM
7

Are you saying that a significant number of women secretly want to have gangbangs, but won’t because “they are not being honest”?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 12:52 PM
1

Yes I agree broadly when it comes to DEI, but I think that’s the only thing we agree on. No idea what you are talking about re: taking credit for others. And yes, it is because of both men and women that there are fewer children and nuclear families. It’s certainly better grow up with both parents - but how are single parent families exclusively the fault of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 12:19 PM
2

If any given man works harder than any given women, he is rewarded for it with money and/or status. Men and women can both get scholarships depending on their backgrounds. Personally, I would agree that fewer DEI type initiatives are a good idea, since the playing field appears to be more level these days. I don’t really understand what you mean by “give in return” as men don’t “give in return” either. The only exception is the draft - and my position there is that no draft should exist for anyo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 11:24 AM
1

That is not a sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 06:24 AM
12

Expected to doesn’t equal duty
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 04:45 PM
4

With 8 billion people in the world, there is no duty or need to be ‘useful’, however you might define that. We are all free to follow the path that we want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 04:38 PM
-2

Nah. It is funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 02:52 PM
7

Man here. Society doesn’t hate me. So it all depends on one’s personal situation and perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 02:51 PM
17

Women don’t and never had any duty to produce children.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 02:47 PM
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Sorry, thought you were OP. I mean, if your position is just that “this thing happens” then you have no argument from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 08:16 PM
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Want your post about whether it feels dehumanising? It’s only feels dehumanising if you are bothered by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 08:13 PM
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Who cares about that!? I’ve been called a fuck boy. But I got to fuck! I don’t need society to give me a pat on the back.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 08:09 PM
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Dude. You just edited the comment I replied to, and have accused me of ignoring the part that you added after I replied. That’s fucking pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 07:25 PM
1

I disagree. Both men and women are stereotyped and both fairly and unfairly criticised constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 07:24 PM
0

Female assholes are called out for being assholes. Hence the term, “bitch” It’s all well and good being condescending in response to my condescension, but being retarded undermines the attempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 07:11 PM
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Oh you just mean “having lots of sex”. Yes. I agree that men can’t have sex with lots of people unless those people agree to have sex with them. Sexual expression is different. You can express your sexually though art or the way you present yourself to the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 07:07 PM
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What’s stopping men from expressing themselves sexually?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 06:14 PM
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Hold up buddy, are you saying that some people are assholes? That is one spicy take. To be honest, it’s changed the way I look at the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:08 PM
2

Your logic is just sour grapes: "I find X very difficult, so there's no way most other people actually enjoy X, they just like other people to know they have X" And if the obstacle to ribeye steak was frequent or even constant rejection, I'd keep asking for steak. It's not like I'm actually harmed by being refused steak, and if I don't request steak, I'll never get any.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 11:18 PM
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If I understand you, you’re saying that masturbation and gay sex are hedonistic. They are purely for pleasure. But you don’t think sex with women is for pleasure? Your logic is: Masturbation: For pleasure Gay sex: For pleasure Heterosexual sex: For kudos
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 10:01 PM
1

I don’t think anyone has ever said that any of those common gripes you list is emotional intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 07:25 PM
3

What about gay sex? Do you think gay men only have sex with other gay men because it makes them feel more like men? Does getting fucked in the ass make one feel like a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 03:59 PM
2

There’s some truth to that, but any fulfilment from that pales in comparison to the pleasure of actually doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 03:43 PM
5

Jerking it gets rid of the urge, but the amount of pleasure pales in comparison to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 03:23 PM
5

Nah. I always worked hard to get laid, and often times I didn’t. It was almost always worth it! I also didn’t tell my friends about getting my dick wet, unless it was turning into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 03:21 PM
5

That is, in fact, not necessary when using the phrase. I like language though, and would be interested in seeing a definition where that is mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:25 AM
4

You say it yourself in your final paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:17 AM
4

So it’s a double edged sword?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:09 AM
3

Exactly, so why did you claim such an argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:54 PM
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No, I picked them. Sometimes the feeling wasn’t mutual, and sometimes it was. That’s the same for anyone, male or female. It’s easier for women to get casual sex, but that doesn’t stop men from choosing their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:02 PM
10

It being easier for women to get casual sex does not prevent men from choosing a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 07:42 PM
9

I’m a man and I’ve picked every parter I’ve had. You choose who you ask out. And if someone asks you out, you are free to refuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 07:41 PM
1

That’s weird. As a man, I’ve never felt the need to be patted on the back by society. I know when I’ve done good, and I know when I’ve done bad. Generally speaking, money and bitches are the reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 10:12 AM
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Men here also tend to categorise everything they do as rational and logical, even if it is emotional, because it makes them feel better about themselves. Men here also tend to categorise everything that women do as emotional, even if it is logical, because again it doesn’t hurt their delicate world-view. Such whiny little cunts, and I right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 01:28 PM
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So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 12:18 PM
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When such positions are held by a majority of people within a group, it’s fairly safe to say that those are the positions of that group.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 12:03 PM
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And the mask slips.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:59 AM
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I think it’s more the ‘women are children, treat them as such’ and other bitter and/or general ‘women: bad’ aspects of RP that they dislike.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:24 AM
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There is no one true factual answer. Relationships and people are both complex systems which are themselves part of other complex systems. It is always short-sighted to draw conclusions about the nature of people from a limited pool of experience
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 06:17 AM
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Right, but that, to a thinker, just sounds like gratuitous optimism from gratuitous optimism sake. What purpose does viewing things like that serve? Basically, thinkers tend to be utilitarian. They dispense with fluff and get down to what matters, as the former just clouds the latter. Being a thinker should mean that you examine the nature of your thought, and what it gets you. What I see here is cynicism combined with an enabling pity party. If that serves as a venting system and has actual pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:21 PM
1

Who decided who did the building and killing?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 05:08 AM
3

Remind me which was the all gay man only civ? Cos all the greats, from Greece to China, had roughly 50% bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 08:48 PM
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YESSS those FAT FUCKING WHORES!!!! Sing it brother!!!!! Hahahahajahhaaaaaa!!! Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And my mum told me to clean my room the fucking fat bitch, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 08:44 PM
3

Isn’t that just a meme cartoon?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 08:42 PM
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It’s really somewhere in the middle. It’s not wrong to say that many if not almost all relationships are essentially transactional (negative), because it’s always possible to boil things down that way. The thing is, you don’t have to boil things down that way. You can cook up a narrative for life as you like. Like this, for instance: Almost all relationships are an emergent feature of humanity itself (neutral). Or even: Almost all relationships are the essence of what it is to be human: love, jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 08:41 PM
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I’m sure they would be devastated to know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 08:59 PM
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Pretty sure anyone can complain about anything they want
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 08:57 PM
9

Yeah! Dumb girls! Who in their right mind likes going to new restaurants or fast food joints?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 08:51 PM
21

Why are you working for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:27 AM
3

I actually appreciate that kind of preemptive strike. You can say “and that’s my wife! Haha, anyway so….” Otherwise I get distracted in my own head “I wonder if she thinks I’m hitting on her”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 04:12 PM
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But then OP should give a context. Simply “No thanks, I have a boyfriend” is fine. If OP’s problem is with sarcasm, aggression or condescension then he should specify that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 11:45 AM
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What’s wrong with being told “I have a boyfriend/husband” even if it isn’t true? It’s not humiliating, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 06:18 PM
1

Humour is subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:38 PM
2

Funniest thing I’ve read all week. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:31 PM
2

Are you saying you’ve gone off grid and into prepper-mode because of feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:25 AM
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Yes, you are wrong to get so upset by online nonsense. I am a man. I can go on Reddit and find hate against almost any group. And then I can go on 4chan to find hate against the rest! Who cares what gets ‘called out’ in an echo chamber? And in real life casual sexism is rampant on both sides. It just depends where you go. Work in a garage or on a building site, and you have misogyny. Work in an office where there are only a couple of straight men, and there’s misandry. I’ve witnessed both plenty…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:23 AM
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Why wouldn’t 60% of men be single in their 20s? That’s the time you play the field, rather than get locked down.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:17 AM
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You were gaslit by your own assumptions?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:33 AM
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I don’t see it. I’ve (male) been in about half a dozen long term relationships over the years (now married), and in none of those have I been the provider. I’ve always split the bill with my partners. Always split the rent. I’ve never bought gifts that were more expensive than what I was bought. Even now, married, I earn roughly equal to my wife. We split the bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 07:30 PM
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Haha! You don’t need to put in 100% What does “buying clothes for every occasion” even mean? If anything, you’re setting guys up for “I did EVERYTHING I read online and that bitch didn’t even fondle my balls” Dating can and will fail even if you put in 100%. So, just put in what you want and try to find similar people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:21 PM
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Nah, I’m a guy and two things: 1 - I’d ALMOST never cheat on my wife (who is over 35) And 2 - If our relationship ended, I would (as a 40+ year-old man) look for someone around 35+ Qualifiers: I say ALMOST never cheat because if we for some reason separated for years, or was dying of cancer, or I found out she had cheated, then I’d probably go for it. But, I value our relationship way more than a few fucks. And if our relationship did end, I would seek a partner closer to my age. I have friends …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 11:28 AM
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It is ready for that conversation. It’s a common and controversial topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 10:01 AM
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Nah, that’s gross too. I’ve always hated the idea of making someone into a good husband or wife. It’s gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 09:21 AM
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Well, I was just sick into my mouth a little bit. I’m not RP, but ‘moulded into lovers’ Well, yeah, young people are easier to manipulate. Formative years and all that. Wanting to maximise manipulation though, that’s so broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:30 AM
1

So, how many women regularly call you to vent, and how did that happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:47 AM
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If you have multiple women calling you to complain about men then I you are in a very rare (and lame) situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 06:56 AM
1

I think you might be an outlier there mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 06:03 AM
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I’m skeptical, but it would involve things like taxing the assets of the super rich, and taxing AI companies heavily.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 06:01 AM
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Yes, things are pretty good right now, but that’s because there is a lag. We’re still benefiting from previously high birth rates. We only see the effects when retirees outpace new workers. What is fun is that will happen quite suddenly and painfully! South Korea is the canary in the coalmine for this though. If they manage to up births or solve the economic (and cultural) problems, then we may be fine. We’re actually offsetting the problem already with immigration in the west. And automation mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 10:25 PM
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Eh… kind of. We just slowly evolved from closed to free markets and from controlled to free monetary policy. It’s been a gradual shift over 1000s of years. But, I’m all ears. What do you propose?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 10:19 PM
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Moving from Feudalism to Industrialisation is great for us, now, in the present. They both sucked donkey balls for the vast majority of people at the time though. An average Joe might have gone from back breaking labour as a serf, to lung destroying/bone crushing factory work. Progress! As for moving off the gold standard, that’s hardly an economic revolution. We just needed to adjust our financial markets and regulations for that. Demographic collapse could leave us without pensions, healthcare…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 10:16 PM
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The problem is that ‘creating new economic models’ generally involves things like famine and the death of millions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 09:53 PM
1

Wait… are you doing the Red pill trope thing…. The women is average or below average and a hot guy gives her attention, pumps and dumps… You guys are obsessed with that scenario as if it’s one of three of four archetypal relationships. Real life is more varied and complex. But anyway, if I was an average girl and a super hot guy wanted to fuck me, well sure I’d be happy to assume it was true love even if it wasn’t. Sounds like a nice fantasy. And then sure, I’d be upset afterwards and might even…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 08:28 PM
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They don’t know they are bad news because they are not all bad news. Do you think every handsome dickslinger js a bad guy? And I don’t see many women saying “oh, I really want a not-handsome, not confident short guy with hang ups about women”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 07:45 PM
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Ok fair enough. Personally I would avoid such forums - other than this one because everyone is clearly batshit. I’m curious though… why does a woman being upset about a bad experience with a man upset you? It doesn’t sound like empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 07:16 PM
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They’re not talking to you, so you don’t have to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 07:01 PM
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Doesn’t it make perfect sense that tall, extroverted, sporty and (you forgot to add) handsome guys will get more attention than geeks? Alternative and handsome guys will do just fine too. Why do women choose them and warn against them? Well, I think you have to qualify ‘warn against’. Most women do not say “never date tall, extroverted, sporty and handsome men” Many women do say “be careful, super hot guys are often players” And that makes sense. Super hot guys are tempting. It’s like a warning …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:44 PM
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Not at all. When rejecting someone, some women will react badly and others will let you down gently, and everything in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 09:53 AM
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It’s ok to be accused of seeing someone as a romantic prospect if that is how you see them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 09:35 AM
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But if women reject a ‘nice guy’ they have to say it, don’t they? So their words do match their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 04:57 PM
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Why do women have to admit that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 04:56 PM
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She referred to the data without making a claim as to the proportions. She just said that data doesn’t include certain cohorts. You’re claiming those cohorts are not a significant proportion of the whole set. How do you know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 04:35 PM
1

What’s the data on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 04:27 PM
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I don’t think I understand the problem. No one is obligated to be romantically interested in anyone else. If you are friendzoned and have romantic feelings that are not reciprocated, then ending the relationship is fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 04:25 PM
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Understanding makes things less special if you value the surface above all else. Oh no! There’s ganache under this brittle sugar filigree. What a downer. Or maybe that’s not it? It’s that understanding intrinsically reduces joy? I think there is an argument there, but it’s one of ignorance. Like imagining that Coltrane had no love of jazz because he understood it too well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:14 PM
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I’m struggling to see how the body of your post relates to women giving advice….
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:18 PM
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Didn’t they just have orphans and bastards back then, with the same amount of care-free fucking?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:56 AM
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Why do you think they would die of starvation, as opposed to just living in greater poverty and committing more crime to survive?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 05:40 AM
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Wait… do you think that dismantling the welfare system would result in fewer single parent families? Wouldn’t there be the same amount but in greater poverty and with greater rates of crime?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:18 PM
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Nah, it’s just a word and when I use it, there is no hate. In the above example, I was being irreverent of language, not hateful of women. I think I’ve only really hated about three or four people ever, and I always grew out of it and realised I was just annoyed at an aspect of myself that they reflected. Now, women who are promiscuous… absolutely fucking awesome. 🙌
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 10:03 PM
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I’m a man, and I’ve always loved sluts. I would have thought Red Pill guys do too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:26 PM
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Are you saying that women like to date people that they are attracted to? Earth-shattering revelation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 09:16 PM
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What are the numbers on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:15 PM
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Demographic reversal – unlikely, but possible if cultural norms shift rapidly or incentives significantly raise birth rates. Population replacement via immigration – politically hard in Japan/Korea, but not impossible if collapse risk forces change. Economic adaptation – automation, AI, and productivity gains reduce the need for a large workforce. Structural downsizing – urban planning, housing, and services scale to a smaller but stable population, avoiding systemic collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:13 PM
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It’s not deterministic. They may experience serious collapse, but they also may not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:03 PM
1

They are still fucking. Less babies and more shut ins, but they haven’t stopped.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 03:09 PM
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Birth rates are falling, if that’s what you’re getting at. But we still be fucking and birthing. It’s not stopping.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:52 PM
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Well yeah, a million songs, poems and novels have detailed the fact that love ain’t easy. And yet the human race continues to fuck and multiply.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:06 PM
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“ I've dated a model in the past, and really attractive women. What am I supposed to date for? Personality? Lots of people have good personalities, big whoop.” This could be straight out of a Bret Easton Ellis novel
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 06:55 PM
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“In every society the women were to survive over men” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_infanticide
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 09:02 AM
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Why are you much more ok with fraternities than sororities?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:23 AM
2

What would ‘validating’ one’s anxiety mean in that context?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:34 AM
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That’s not a gendered thing. People, men and women both, can be vilified when they stand up for themselves, even if they are not in the wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:32 PM
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Is it all women in your experience who have treated you like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 05:09 PM
0

It’s gross for me. Is find it suffocating. I completely understand that for others it’s ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 08:54 PM
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“Insecurity can never be harmful. Ok, it can be harmful in these situations….” lol. Anyway. We basically agree. Personally I find that level of control gross, but if you have a partner who feels the same way then of course it’s all gravy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 07:26 PM
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No true Scotsman
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 07:23 PM
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I think ‘cringe’ is probably a better word than ‘immature’, but anyway…. No, Black pill is not insecure. It’s defeatist. Sure, they are also insecure. But defeatist is their defining characteristic. TRP is not necessarily insecure, and many aspects of it make sense - but ultimately It uses kernels of truth to prey on and reinforce insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:41 PM
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I mean, it’s better that you’ve written it out like a grown up now, as opposed to “Hey, guys! It’s like in the Matrix when….” But I disagree with you: it’s not that Red Pill zealots were secure they ‘woke up’. It’s that these guys were already insecure, and TRP preys on and reinforces their insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:31 PM
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Yes. I do. And the choice of staying asleep or waking up should be where the analogy ends, right? Or does Red Pill draw on more of the narrative of the movie? Do you think The Matrix is the source text of Red Pill philosophy?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:22 PM
2

“If you watch the matrix…” Is that actually part of your argument. It’s actually quite scary because it verges on “Of you read the bible…”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:17 PM
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Great model for us to follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:07 PM
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Can it ever be harmful to be insecure?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 05:57 PM
1

What percentage of women have died from butt enlargement surgery?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 05:51 PM
3

What about the men who are working towards a better version of themselves but also want to treat women as ‘the oldest teenager in the room’?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 05:43 PM
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The definition isn’t gendered.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 05:40 PM
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Yes, I did. That Redditor was claiming a superiors status for ‘men’ when many men are unless and lazy. Much like not all women are selfish and status obsessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:55 PM
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I’m not discussing OP’s premise. I’m disagreeing with the Redditor that I relied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:02 PM
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The topic of this slight tangent of a sub-thread is that some men think that women are unable to do the things that men do in order to maintain a functioning and developed society. I don’t disagree that most women are not interested in brick-laying, sewage work or trash removal. And further, fewer women than men are interesting in being a systems administrator or similar. Nevertheless, it seems pretty clear that women can do all of these things, since some do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:54 PM
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Just because you have some incompetent women in your company, doesn’t mean women are unable to do your job.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:12 PM
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In the US, about 29% of women identify as feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:49 PM
3

Can you give an example that 80-90% of women have followed?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:47 PM
3

What do you base that on?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:41 PM
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What kind of percent do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:41 PM
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Do you think a woman would be unable to do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:24 PM
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Men and women are not exactly the same - they do different things. That doesn’t mean they don’t make equal contributions to society when they are able to. Many men are total deadbeats. Many women are hard workers who contribute to society. That doesn’t make either sex better than either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:47 AM
1

So, your imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:44 AM
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That’s great that you have a hardworking family. But it seems very shortsighted to say that as a group ‘men’ are somehow superior to women because some men build things. Some men make the world go round. Some men start wars. Some men sit online all day and complain about women. Some women demand equal rights. Some women are absolute cunts. Some women support their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:40 AM
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Ok, what have you done to create the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:35 AM
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What have you done to create the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:26 AM
4

What are you basing this on, feels?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:47 AM
6

Maybe I’ve got the wrong end of the stick here, but I don’t see how a man being the primary breadwinner means that the woman either “only cares about money and status” or “demand equality but have no intention of being a provider”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:10 AM
5

What proportion of women do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:00 AM
7

“Women only care about lifestyle and status” What proportion of women do you think that is true for?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 08:37 AM
0

So, like I say, I’m offering my perspective and I could be wrong. What’s your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 08:34 AM
1

Yes, I do. Maybe it is. I’m not convinced that I’m correct. I could be wrong. Are you convinced that you’re correct? Could you be wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 08:23 AM
11

No one likes to be pestered.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 09:49 PM
9

Invisible in public, visible in private
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 09:45 PM
3

Don’t most men like confident women too? Who wants to date a shy, anxious wallflower?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 09:45 PM
2

Oh ok. You phrased it like it was somehow immoral for men to put the emotional labour of initiation on women. If your post is really just “many women prefer to be approached” then yeah, 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 08:33 PM
2

Why is it men’s responsibility to make the first move?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 08:11 PM
2

They still get to choose. They don’t accept everyone who applies
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:35 PM
2

I don’t think they’d be any happier with the men they approach
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:26 PM
5

Of course not. But why would women go against the grain when there is no benefit to them? Like I said. The more interesting question is why some attractive women do go against the grain.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:17 PM
3

I’m not ugly. I’m slightly above. If average is 5, I’m 6. I’ve been told “You’re a 4 who acts like he’s a 7”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:12 PM
3

Do you not think people are socially conditioned to certain norms?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:10 PM
1

Yeah, I explained that in my post. So, the more interesting question is why the exception?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 05:01 PM
2

Nah, I’m average, maybe slightly above. Been asked out a few times. But I’ve done the asking waaaau more
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:43 PM
9

We are all products of our society. Most people don’t venture much out of the roles we’ve been conditioned to follow. Why would most women approach if everything they’ve seen from real life to moves shows the man chasing the woman? A better question would be “How come some women do ask men out, and what makes them different?”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:28 PM
6

Feels and experience. I do it too. Perhaps we’re wrong, and those of us who have had positive relationships with the opposite sex without being giga-chads are just extremely lucky outliers. But, I just can’t help sometimes disagreeing with someone based on the reality I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:15 PM
1

“I’m not interesting”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 10:45 PM
7

Hot
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:02 PM
3

They are both terribly written garbage!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:23 PM
2

Those two paragraphs mean and imply different things. The first paragraph says you cannot argue with women. The second paragraph does not imply that you cannot argue with women, just that you need to be respectful. Really, it’s better rendered as non-gendered advice, combining the two paragraphs: People are emotional and often sensitive, especially if your message is not delivered respectfully. If you have a disagreement, be mindful of your own emotions and language. Otherwise, you are unlikely …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:41 PM
3

In this scenario, marriage is the required commitment. I’m a man, and marriage isn’t a huge deal for me. Personally, I see commitment as the behaviours each partner exhibits. However, I also understand that not everyone feels the same way. For my wife, marriage was important - more culturally than anything else. Since it wasn’t a big deal for me, I was happy to make her happy, and so we got married. I can imagine that it might have been a deal breaker for her though, and I’d have understood her …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 11:22 AM
2

I know it’s a joke, but that would be pretty simple to annul.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 09:41 AM
1

What happened? Did you get married in the end?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 09:40 AM
10

So, the solution is to stand your ground. “Look, I love you, and I want us to have a future together. But that means commitment. So I need you to make a commitment to me” No commitment, then leave. The bonus here is that you’re not forming a marriage based on manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 09:15 AM
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You do not have to be ‘strategically manipulative and bitchy’ to get what you want out of a relationship. Just be honest and up front.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 09:09 AM
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None of what you said answers my question. Why are you being evasive?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:09 PM
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Not everybody on the internet is going to like you. How many extreme feminists are in your social circle?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 06:22 PM
3

I’m a man, so… I don’t really have a girl-boss ego. That said, I’ve dated women who have been very submissive, and women who have been very independent - and it’s all good. Like Captain Sensible once said “I’ve been to East, I’ve been to the West, and the girls I liked most are the ones I undressed”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 02:55 PM
5

All those words to lead up to a stab at women. “Cute helpless puppies” You really let your hand show there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 02:28 PM
3

Yes. I am a man, and I am talking about this. I don’t think it’s a gotcha, but the person I replied to seemed more neutral about the TRP. I wanted to make my position clear that TRP is ‘a bad thing’.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 01:39 PM
5

So, TRP is a manifestation that stems from male trauma. And, as is often the case, it’s a manifestation that encourages further toxic behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 12:43 PM
9

Yeah, my point was that the very, very basic: “attractive men are attractive” and “motivated men are more attractive than basement gooners” axioms are common sense and largely true. That women “need a masculine presence to guide them through the world” sounds quite patronising and infantilising to me. I guess if you’re into rigid gender roles then that’s just like, your opinion, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 12:29 PM
12

Are you trying to excuse the gross parts of RP because some hippy woo shite is also gross?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 12:14 PM
91

Yes, much of RP is common sense self-help dressed up in bro-speak. And yes, many/most women prefer men who are attractive/strong/rich. I think if that’s all RP was, then there wouldn’t be much debate. It’s more the ‘women are whores/children who don’t find men sexually attractive (apart from the ones they do but they’re unicorn-chads) and they don’t love you like you love them and they’ll leave you as soon as a better option comes along’ stuff that is more debatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 10:26 AM
35

Do you think there is a difference between “I love you”, and “I love your tits”?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:47 PM
10

What do you think you can tell about a person from watching them for an hour? And, where are you watching them for an hour? And, how intently are you watching them for an hour?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:45 PM
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Don’t worry man, no-one is calling you gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:45 PM
7

By your logic, you get the college girls in your 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:44 PM
2

That’s not the ego bit…. The ego bit was when you put the other poster down on the basis of their ego, and then in the same post made sure to mention that you were in the top 2% of earners. You could have said “in a high pressure job” or “with a challenging work/life balance” - that in fact would have been more relevant. But you went with what I guess you mention to people quite often. It’s a nice ego boost. Nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 09:20 AM
3

I see your self-awareness is quite low.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 09:06 AM
4

That’s not really the right way to use the phrase ‘cherry picking’, and no, I’m not trying to dismiss your post at all. It was just hilarious!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 08:36 PM
4

“I’m sure that fed your ego” “I secured a position in the top 2% of earners”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 07:15 PM
1

No, they don’t get backlash. They get lucrative sponsorship deals and Netflix specials.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:50 AM
3

It’s on YouTube and Spotify. It’s pretty funny. It used to be better a couple of years ago, but the roasting is fairly solid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:16 PM
3

My wife still has access to dating apps, as do I.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:07 PM
7

I’m married, and my wife and I are happy. We’ve been together for over ten years. I’m not easily replaceable, because my wife loves me, and she loves the world we’ve created together: The shared experiences, the in-jokes, the dreams and the struggles. Is it impossible that she will dump me? Of course not. But, is there any reason for her to dump me? It’s also a no. Why would I worry about something that is incredibly unlikely?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:02 PM
6

So… are they actually bad if they’re not criminals? What makes them bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:41 AM
5

You seem to be contradicting yourself a little. You say “it’s about not being scared” but also that your paranoia is justified. Even if you attempt to ‘make peace’ with a constant state of paranoia, you’re still living in fear and anxiety - or perhaps resigned doomerism. Either way, it’s a form of mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:33 AM
8

The most successful live comedy podcast in the world right now. They routinely make jokes at the expense of flat-chested women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:31 AM
21

I think that if you are so scared of being dumped or cheated on, that you feel the need to be in a state of highly strung constant vigilance, then being in a relationship is not good for you right now. I think there are a lot of questions that your post raises, but a good one to start with would be: How would you describe your general opinion of women, and the relationships you’ve had with women throughout your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:23 AM
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Iggy Pop used to get his dick out all the time on stage, and he also vomited on his fans: https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/iggy-pop-vomit-on-audience/ People on stage ‘get away with’ gross and/or shocking behaviour all the time. This isn’t really a good angle for your victim complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:26 AM
9

You’re clearly not a Kill Tony fan!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:21 AM
18

I don’t think Onlyfans involves ghosts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:36 PM
3

Of course it isn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:59 AM
0

Well, that’s just wrong. Compatibility isn’t rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:57 AM
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No. A ‘unicorn’ would suggest someone with incredibly rare characterises.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:56 AM
7

Well, if you want a family then you really need to steer clear of assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:24 AM
9

No, just find someone you are compatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:24 AM
10

Yes, I absolutely would blame them. People need to be encouraged to make smart decisions. Of course it’s easy to make mistakes when young and horny, but the best advice is: If someone appears to be an asshole, don’t hang out with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:03 AM
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Well, that’s a pretty terrible method. Even if assholes you give attention, they will act assholishly. The best advice is to not pursue them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:56 AM
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What’s the alternative? Either never pursue relationships, or pursue people who are assholes?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:44 AM
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Here’s a solution is possible to implement on the individual level: If you notice that a woman is selfish or entitled, don’t pursue a relationship with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 06:28 AM
4

It’s not that I can’t argue against it — it’s that there’s nothing to argue with. The claim is designed in a way (and not designed by you! You’re just parroting RP rhetoric, which is itself designed for the hard of thinking) that no outcome could ever disprove it, which makes it logically meaningless. Can you think of any situation that would prove your statement wrong? If not, that’s exactly what makes it unfalsifiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 10:40 AM
2

Well, yeah. If you suffer trauma then you do need to move on in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 10:21 AM
3

This is unfalsifiable because: If a couple is attractive and happy → confirms the theory. If a couple is not attractive → the theory explains it as settling and future cheating. If a couple is unattractive and happy → the speaker might say they’re lying, deluded, or that cheating is inevitable but hasn’t occurred yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 10:15 AM
1

I mean, that’s exactly what Emma Watson said she tried to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:44 PM
4

Yeah, mixed up ‘rare’ and ‘common’ use that as an easy escape if you like. You’re unable to argue your point. Also, unfortunately, you can’t dictate what I would do in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:25 PM
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It is how it works if you’re claiming something is rare and coming up with retarded examples. And no, I don’t want aids
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:17 PM
6

Bundy was famous across America - anyone could have written to him. Regarding fantasy: I sometimes jack off to a girl being railed by 10 black dudes. Or Japanese girls who drink a literal pint of semen. I do not want to date those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:08 PM
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Well, the whole 50 shades thing is entirely unrelated to anything. It’s a sexy fantasy… not reality. But I do agree with you that it was a stupid example. As for Bundy, most of the women who wrote to him did not know him. Anyone in the US could have written to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:54 PM
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100s of women wrote to Bundy. Going by the US population, that’s pretty rare. 50 Shades sold about 15 million copies in the US. Assuming everyone who bought a copy was a woman (they weren’t), 4% of women are into BDSM fantasy - which is also unrelated to criminality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:38 PM
4

But the Emma Watson thing isn’t an example of women wanting things both ways, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 12:51 PM
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I agree, though if you read her original comments, she said that a man reacted poorly to her wanting to take him out. Her perception is that some men find it difficult to be taken out by a woman, and that she wants everyone to be comfortable and benefit from how nice it is to be taken out. So, basically, you got the wrong end of the stick. She wants equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 12:11 PM
1

Did you read what Emma Watson said? She said she wants to be taken for dinner and she wants to be able to take her man for dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 09:27 AM
6

Still, what do you think the phrase means?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 09:24 AM
5

Surely you’ve been in this sun long enough to have heard the phrase, “Women are not a monolith”. What do you think that phrase means?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:54 AM
4

So you’re saying that ALL women say that ALL women wear make up for themselves and ALL women feel pressured to wear make up by society?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:26 AM
11

Some men say they like mushrooms, while others say they do not. Is that some kind of Schrödinger’s preference?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:20 AM
6

Actions have consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:17 AM
2

Do you think boys are incapable of being disruptive remotely?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:16 AM
5

Well, you’ve really gone on the rails there from legitimate but misdirected concerns into total fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:10 AM
0

Here I partially agree, but it’s not so much that TERFS want to keep trad gender roles, just that they want to exclude trans women from bio women’s spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:10 AM
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If feminists get what they want, then a natural outcome is that men are no longer required to be ‘the stong’ and women are no longer required to be the ‘the dependant’ - so you get what you want too. Some feminists have indeed fought to join the infantry, and others have expressed concerns about men’s mental health - it’s all related. However, ‘men’s issues’ are never going to be the headline when it comes to ‘feminism’. The clue is in the name.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:08 AM
1

What aspects of traditional gender roles do feminists want to keep?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:32 AM
3

Well, yeah pretty much. That’s hardly a hidden agenda!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:31 AM
2

The expectation that men have to earn more is a trad gender role, and feminists want to end trad gender roles. Your second point is just a preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:13 AM
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I’m not too sure about the example in your first paragraph. Getting rid of the glass ceiling /having a more equal distribution of high earners / ending social norms that dictate “men’s jobs” and “woman’s jobs” - all fairly standard stuff in feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:26 AM
4

That’s weird, I get drunk all the time at work drinks and manage not to say anything inappropriate to my coworkers. Must be superpower: “drink beer without turning into a prick” You know what, if I couldn’t control myself after a few brewskis, I’d either not drink at work events, or make sure I only had the one. What happens when you drink? As to your hypothetical, I’d expect a negative outcome for you. Still, I’m not seeing these “unending hysterical demands” that are the topic of this conversa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:16 AM
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Fine, I’ll ask you since OP has run away: What have feminists endlessly hysterically demanded of you (in real life)?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 08:18 PM
1

That’s pretty gay
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:47 PM
19

Is that the extent of “endless hysterical demands?” Being pro choice is hardly limited to feminists either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:50 PM
18

And they made constant hysterical demands of you? What did they demand?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:28 PM
19

Ok, so how often do you encounter “endless hysterical demands from feminists” outside of media. In real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:15 PM
27

“The endless hysterical demands of feminists”? I don’t think I’ve ever, in my whole life, experienced a hysterical demand from a feminist. Are you attending a lot of feminist conferences or something? Or is this just you being triggered on the Two Chromosomes sub, or… TikTok? Is it TikTok that has you frothing at the mouth?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:01 PM
1

lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:53 PM
1

‘Well actually’ what?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:52 PM
3

Dictate would be “you must” - OPs message is, “You should”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:50 PM
2

Is this satire?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:50 AM
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You can’t have with friends (in real life) because society is gynocentric? You can’t get a job with a good salary because society is gynocentric? You can’t participate in an artistic or do competitive hobby because society is gynocentric?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:55 AM
1

You, errr, on the spectrum by any chance there, champ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:33 PM
1

And what do you want from women? It sounds like it’s very easy for you to get laid, and that that is all you want. So why are you whining about the dating scene?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 10:56 AM
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That’s like saying, “anorexics don’t go to restaurants, they know better”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:32 PM
19

Perhaps it’s a ‘you’ problem, OP. How would you describe yourself, and why would a girl like to date you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:07 AM
1

The comment I originally replied to was whining that trying to get laid was a thankless task. He wasn’t talking about starting a family. Of course men (myself included. I’m a dude) should try to get laid. It’s a fantastic past time and indeed leads to the creation of offspring (and having kids is widely praised). But I don’t expect anyone to praise me for chasing girls. And I especially won’t whine that trying to get laid is a thankless task. Jizzing in a bitch is the reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:05 AM
1

Everything you said was correct, but the last sentence was the most correct part.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 07:39 PM
3

I think someone posts a variation of that at least once a day
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 07:39 PM
5

And countries often support families with tax breaks and benefits. There is, however, a difference between starting a family and trying to get your dick wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 01:37 PM
11

Is that a total non sequitur? I asked why anyone would thank men for trying to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:30 AM
7

You’re unable to answer a simple question on a debate forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:56 PM
10

Back to the victim, I see. Quite the duality you straddle. You still haven’t answered my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:42 PM
0

But still, why would anyone thank anyone for unsuccessfully trying to fuck them, as you bemoaned in the post I originally relied to, before you twice felt the need the say “but I do fuck, bro”?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:30 PM
4

That’s a nice turnabout from the victim you were playing a moment ago. Keep that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:12 PM
4

Why would anyone thank you for grinding so that you can empty your balls into a lady?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:59 PM
1

Lot of modern men know deep down that they're not ready for marriage, but they go through with it anyway. For sex, from parental pressure or societal expectation, then when reality kicks in, when their balls are empty, suddenly she's the villain, but nobody forces him to say: "I do," nobody lies to him, he did that on his own and let's not ignore this. The same men who claim their wife wasn't emotionally supportive are often the same ones who never made space for women's emotions in the first pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:34 PM
-2

He just sounds like a bit of a damp squid. Or an annoying cunt. Something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 07:54 PM
2

Sorry, I have no idea what you are talking about. OP was saying that women’s ability to travel and attract people makes their lives easier - However, it’s also very easy for men to travel and attract people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 02:19 PM
1

Sorry, my recommendation for being easier? What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 01:03 PM
-1

Perhaps you’re below average
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 08:55 AM
6

Do you have any data on the relationship statuses of van life men vs van life women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 07:31 PM
6

The easiest way to travel and have fun: teaching
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:05 PM
6

Nothing. I travelled for work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:04 PM
7

OP was saying it’s harder for men to travel the world and find a partner. It isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:00 PM
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I'm a man. I travelled the world. It's easier to find a partner as a "romantic, experienced travelling the world man" than it is being a "stay in my hometown and post about how women have it easier on Reddit man". If anything, it's easier as a man. I am respected purely for being male in many countries, and local girls find the foreign guy a thrill. I might get attacked, but as a man I would find it easier to run away or fight back.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 01:10 PM
10

There is no proof - I made a ridiculous and inflammatory claim, just like your OP. I was hoping you'd notice the symmetry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:51 AM
17

It's a shame then that men are given such a light pass for domestic violence. Typical male privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:47 AM
10

How about we compare like for like: Your example: Woman sentenced to 7.5 years but didn't kill the victim My example: Man sentenced to 8 years and killed the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:43 AM
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Doesn't the news story I've linked to directly contradict your assertion that gender is the most important factor when it comes to sentencing?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:38 AM
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-20736003 A British man got a very light sentence (8 years) for killing his wife by setting fire to her. Why didn't his lack of female privilege result in a far harsher sentence?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:33 AM
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Humans are extremely valuable. Yada yada yada A system that requires suppressing half the population to function isn’t efficient — it’s fragile. True productivity comes from maximising the potential of all people, not restricting it based on gender. Most advancements in technology have been driven by men, not women Even if men led in early tech, the societies that let everyone contribute — not just a select group — end up stronger, more stable, and more productive. Patriarchy wastes human potent…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 07:32 PM
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Men holding power across all area of life = women relying on men (particularly their partners) to survive = more marriages = more children Once again, you cannot discount the fact that this was a fundamental aspect of most human societies. You just can't. It shaped the ways men and women interacted with eachother for thousands of years. I think your logic breaks down here. Correct me if I have misunderstood your position, but you're saying that: Men having authority over women = more children Mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 10:51 AM
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Why don't you learn how to form a real argument instead of whining about correlation versus causation? It's a horrible argument, especially considering men having authority over women was a fundamental aspect of most human societies. It'd be like arguing that agricultural wasn't integral to the success of humanity. This is asinine. Except, it's very easy to establish causation between agriculture and the success of humanity: More calories and a more reliable food supply = more productivity. You'…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 10:17 AM
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You realize it worked and served our species well for 99% of recorded history, right?] Mistaking correlation with causation. Our species has flourished despite treating women as second class citizens. I'm not a fan of birth-rate alarmism, but one could make an argument that what you are proposing is the true losing strategy, considering the rates at which we reproduce have plummeted. False cause. Housing costs, urbanisation, changing priorities... Lots of factors influence birth rates. How is it…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 09:34 AM
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Me! I'm one. I don't think single guys necessarily deserve to be single. They are often single because they are undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 04:08 PM
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But why can’t feminine traits be learnt by men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:15 PM
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Why do you think masculine traits can be learnt, but feminine traits cannot?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 11:56 AM
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Oh lordy, this is one of the best exchanges I've ever read: Have you tried being a normal human at them? Yes, it doesn't work. Very sparse lucky situations. Not good enough for me. Take a step back and think about that exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 02:49 PM
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Ah, you just want to play the revenge fantasy game. Ohhh… those mean girls really are getting their just desserts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 09:54 PM
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Do you care about these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 09:46 PM
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Meh… who cares? People make choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 09:38 PM
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As I said in the comment you are replying to - this relates to online dating and not the real world. But, if we dig in a bit further, this data says that women are more selective than men, not than women exclusively select from the top 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:42 PM
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I do think women complain about this, but I don’t think that OP cares a jot about them. OP cares about being passed over.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 12:43 PM
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I think it's all just revenge fantasy fluff
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 12:41 PM
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I don't think that was OP's point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 12:39 PM
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I don't believe this whole 80/20 thing. My experience and observation is that average women date average men. That is not to say that average women never go for the most handsomest fella, but people tend to date within their league. I would have thought that the most handsome men would tend to go for the most attractive women anyway. Why date down?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:24 AM
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I partially agree. Many women have easy access to casual sex, compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:18 AM
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Is it true though? Is there any evidence for what you say other than the OK Cupid study (and a Tinder study with 27 people that was methodologically flawed)?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 09:21 AM
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Well based on dating apps studies women only choose top 20% of men. That was an OK Cupid study where 80% of men were rated as below medium attractiveness. It does not have bearing on the real world, and it doesn't actually even imply that women on choose the top 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 09:16 AM
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And how many times has this happened, or is it all entirely hypothetical?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 08:40 AM
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I don't think it's as simple as that. Sometimes guys (like myself) just are not looking for a committed relationship. It's nothing about leagues. Every relationship is a gamble - the guy might commit or not, the girl might commit or someone might cheat - or someone might be an asshole. It's not supposed to be easy, or simple. Hence all the songs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 08:31 AM
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Yeah I’ve been that guy too, but I have been emotionally available. I think OP is just living in a revenge fantasy in his head.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 07:50 AM
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Ahhh, got you. But no. My position is that of the other Redditors who replied to my post: OP is doing that whole “if you date him and not me you’re going to regret it. He’s an attractive asshole, but I’m average and dating me would be a fairy tale” thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 07:45 AM
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Eh? What are you talking about? My “” comment is paraphrasing OP in an uncharitable, sardonic tone. I honestly don’t understand what the ‘fetish’ angle is here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 07:36 AM
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Why do you think OP has a fetish?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 07:33 AM
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“women: stop having sex with men that you find sexually attractive.”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 07:12 AM
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I wouldn't say I love cum. To be honest, it's not really for me. It's for awesome women. "I would say that is due to them following what they watched in porn and being desperate pick-me's good girls." Fixed that for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:17 PM
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Ah yeah maybe for you when guys from grindr cum up your ass. Would you say you are an overt homophobe in real life, or just online? For women though sperm is worthless unless youre a 6'4 white guy under 30 who looks like a god whos donating to a sperm clinic. Then why did they, specifically, ask me to cum in their mouths?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:09 PM
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I didn't claim to be special. Semen is awesome though. It's a major benefit of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:00 PM
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Women get nothing out of dating men Whoa whoa whoa... this is a WILD claim. Every women I've ever dated has got a nice creamy load. Creamy loads don't grow on trees. If they did, I'd never get a date cos bitches would be in the forest yaffling on a birch.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:54 PM
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Then move on. Perhaps those women are nasty liars who are tying to gaslight you. Or, perhaps there is something about you that they don't like, but they would find it socially awkward to tell you. We should acknowledge that it is really very difficult to tell someone to their face that there is something off-putting about them. I've been in their shoes, and to be honest I do the same - evade, excuse and avoid. So, keep trying in real life. Meet people, make friends, and make female friends with …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:51 PM
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If you get friendzoned by girls, then you're friends with those girls though, right? That's an opportunity to expand your social network. If I were you, I'd work on my relationships with a few of those girls and ask them to set me up with one of their single friends. You know, hang out and go for a coffee or go shopping, and then once it's not entirely transparent, ask something like, "Hypothetically, if you had a single friend who was looking for a boyfriend, would you recommend they meet me?" …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:22 PM
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This is more of a debate sub than an advice sub, so people are quick to judge. I don't think Reddit is a great place to get advice on dating, since there are so many angry people and trolls and angry trolls. But... when you say you make your friends laugh and they call you to hang out - does that include women too?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:11 PM
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Sorry man, it was an easy joke to make. I had a think about this, and I think unless one is a stone cold psycho, finding the perfect formula traits to be attractive to the opposite sex will probably throw out weird, unnatural vibes. For me, the metric for success has always been "Can we have a flowing conversation without awkward pauses, where we make each other laugh?" That's quite a nice metric because it requires a whole bunch of interpersonal compatibility to get there. I suppose, if I reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:46 PM
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This reads like an alien saying: "Dear humans. I am Garglothorpe from Runticuliv 5 and I am seeking coitus with one or more of your human females. I have studied your mating behaviours and I believe have modified my appearance sufficiently to be a desirable male. However, I am struggling with the concept you have of 'personality'. Please provide a detailed analysis of what constitutes a good 'personality' so that I may sow my Runticulivian seed amongst your womenfolk"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:11 PM
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I’m literally echoing your words from a few posts ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 05:40 PM
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Well apparently now you’re just saying whatever to satisfy your ego. Have at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 05:34 PM
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The insanity is why you should stay. Isn’t it fascinating?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 02:01 PM
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I completely agree that women are treated better than men in some situations. Men are treated better in others. Inequities exist on both sides, and acknowledging one doesn't erase the other. Take the blinkers off.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 01:14 PM
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That's not an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 01:11 PM
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I mean Google exists... As does the ability to express oneself If I'm talking about "Gyno", I'm obviously talking abou issues that are gendered?! So, again, both men and women face challenges. Men in mental health and education, women in safety and equity. Women's issues are not 'prioritised above everything else to a delusional extent' Not every annoying woman is a Karen. No, they are not. But you said that "Women are being told that their emotions are the most important thing in the world, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 12:11 PM
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My guy you can literally go outside get slapped by a random woman and be considered the aggressor. My guy, you can literally go outside and get slapped by a random man and be considered the aggressor - but both scenarios are vanishingly unlikely. Saying we live in a gynocentric society don't mean women have no issues. It just means their issues are prioritised over everything else. (To a delusional point) Women's issues are not prioritised over everything else. That statement is, as you put it, …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 11:35 AM
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Society is fully gynocentric and somehow it's getting worse. This is not true. Women now have a far more equal playing field in the west than they did in the past, but we are not in a 'gynocentric' society. Both genders face distinct challenges—men in mental health and education, women in safety and equity Women are being told that their emotions are the most important thing in the world, and there's no one to tell them otherwise. That's how they can justify or rationalise anything, being rude f…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 10:17 AM
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Both of these statements are true: “Men and women are different” “People are different” We can find patterns everywhere, and we have evolved to be pattern recognition machines. We also really, really like attributing behaviours to someone’s ‘group’. Like this: “He did that because he’s a man, and we all know men are X” The same is true for women. Now, sometimes this kind of attribution is correct. However, when you’ve gone through a tough time, it’s natural to try to rationalise it. Are women cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 06:22 AM
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I came to this thread wondering if someone would mention penis size, and whether you would hyper-fixate on it. I was not disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 04:10 PM
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This is fantastic. The gift that keeps giving. Keep it up!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:50 PM
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I literally have no idea if that was self-aware irony or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:45 PM
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Women usually only get mad with me when I’m a condescending prick to them. I try to avoid it, but it happens. I’m sure that’s not what’s happening with you though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:37 PM
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Famous people attract crazy people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:22 PM
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What do you mean by this? Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:31 PM
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I take the opposite view.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:49 PM
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It’s not unfair at all, since it’s a common sentiment on this forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:47 PM
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No, I should reply where I notice ambiguity, in order to clarify it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:29 PM
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I completely agree that teaching people to be nicer to each other is a good idea. My problem was with this statement: But because a lot of angry men isn't good for anyone. It's an ambiguous statement, and has been used explicitly in this sub to attribute blame, and excuse violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:20 PM
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I agree that's a pretty reasonable position - and that kind of clarity is important in these discussions precisely because statements like "a lot of angry men isn't good for anyone" are ambiguous, and ripe for misinterpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:29 PM
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My original point was that it doesn't matter if women 'miss out' on a guy that doesn't ask them out, because enough men ask women out that it is an expected social norm. You said "But what if men listen to women online who cry about how terrible men are" I asked what your experience of asking women out was. You replied that you have asked women out, and that despite many failures, you've had some success. So, if you had put too much stock in what "women online who cry about how terrible men are'…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:27 PM
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This line comes up quite often: But because a lot of angry men isn't good for anyone. It kind of vaguely suggests that any acts of violence that result from women not granting sexual access to men is women's/societies fault. That would be a fair line of argument if requiring women to have sex with men that they don't want to was a fair or reasonable request.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:20 PM
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But if you had just blindly listened to "The umpteen women on social media crying about how terrible men are" You would have have zero hits.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:16 PM
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What has been your personal experience asking women out, both online and in real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:12 PM
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I've just explained how it works and why it's pointless arguing that women are wrong to assume that men that don't ask them out are not interested. Think of it like this: Women often think men who don't ask them out are not interested because enough men who are interested ask women out enough that the general expectation is that men who are interested ask women out. They're not really wrong because men who are interested do ask them out. The men who like people and don't ask them out are irrelev…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:15 AM
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This is one of the most ridiculous, yes perplexingly common topics here. It’s incredibly simple: Men usually ask women out SO Women expect to be asked out SO If women are not asked out, they assume little to no interest BUT Sometimes women ask men out AND The reason why people act like this is a combination nurture and nature over all of human history SO It’s not possible to ascribe any one reason (or blame)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:23 AM
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So what you are actually saying is: Men and women both engage in transactional relationships, but men should try to love idealistically? That's half of a fine sentiment. I'd add the same for women, and you've got yourself a lovely platitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:38 PM
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Again, it seems you're moralising but not engaging with the point of my argument. Perhaps you meant to say in your OP that your opinion only relates to the religious, in which case: fine. I don't follow Redpill/manosphere/trad ideology, but I thought that was clear from my initial reply where I called it all 'retarded'.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:22 PM
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It doesn't matter whether you are in favour of it or not, if you think men strive to provide and protect women, it's pretty clear that it is not for any noble or spiritual ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:38 PM
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This doesn't really make sense. If we go with trad/red pill/manosphere thinking, men have to provide for and/or protect women in order to fuck them. Men are attracted to youth and beauty because they are evolutionary hardwired to dump as many clips into fertile holes as possible. Not very spiritual. If we go with non-retarded thinking, men and women are both affected by gender roles, and some may fall into stereotypes, but attempting to classify either with such broad strokes is r-worded.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:21 PM
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The disloyalty I am referring to is not about cheating while single , it is about cultivating habits that conflict with long term emotional bonding. You say casual sex is not cheating and I agree. But it is a rehearsal. It trains your body and mind to decouple sex from emotional investment, which sounds harmless when you're single, but becomes a liability when you attempt to build something lasting. I disagree that casual sex is a rehearsal for cheating. It doesn't follow that doing something wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:59 PM
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Casual sex doesn’t automatically make someone disloyal agreed But people who are disloyal often begin by treating sex casually Correlation. Yep. . Casual sex isn’t harmless. Agreed. There are risks to many things in life It’s often the gateway drug to emotional dysfunction How often? Define 'emotional dysfunction, and... cite? It’s not just “cheating lite.” Eh? It's not cheating at all It’s the practice ground where detachment is rehearsed, where intimacy is stripped of meaning, and where people…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:53 PM
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Yeah, except most posters here are absolutely batshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:47 PM
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Eh? You're taking issue with a Redditor not taking issue with all the issues that you think he should be taking issue with?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:43 AM
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Where do women say that no one can criticise them?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:15 AM
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Do you think all women do that all the time, or some women do it in certain contexts?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:16 AM
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That was an interesting thread a few days ago. Someone asked, “How many of you are on the spectrum?” And the answers were: Me Yep Right here! 100% I’m not fucking neurodivergent, people just can’t handle my truth Aspie here ADHD I’m mental!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:59 PM
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You’re making two claims: 1 - Men who sincerely attend hobby groups can be unfairly accused of being creepy and having no real interest in the subject of the group. Do you have any experience going to such groups? Can you give an example scenario where this situation might happen? 2 - Some men join these groups to meet women, but they have no interest in the group and fly under the radar. I don’t think anyone really thinks this never happens. It’s a well established trope that men become musicia…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:18 PM
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Take a trip to Nevada
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:59 PM
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Well, yeah. You failed to engage in meaningful discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:44 PM
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Contentless and yet condescending. Lovely stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:53 PM
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I believe that's what we call 'contentless rhetoric'
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:40 PM
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Women only want to be approached by guys they like Why would women want to be approached by guys they don't like?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:33 PM
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Yes, but we would have understand that with just the violent scenes in school and her beating up the boy. No point to drag it on with her crying in the counselor's room and going hom with no consequences, that just proves that there is no consequences to her actions. A further example gives more depth to the show and to it's explorations of the issues at hand. We don't know what the consequences the girl suffered - but we do see a knackered school system struggling to cope. The show cannot prese…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:30 PM
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It's actually the police duty to apprehend her after such violence, not the teachers, so yeah, it would have made sense that they at least say something. That's not correct. The duty of care lies with the teaching staff. They stopped the fight and separated the students. It is then the duty of the school to report that to the police though in this case the police were present anyway. The police can then take statements and investigate. They not not have to apprehend the student immediately. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:06 PM
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In the attack scene, the police officers backs are turned and the teacher sees the incident first. It wouldn't make sense for the police to push the teacher out of the way when they are already breaking it up. We don't know what happened after that. Yes, we see the girl walking home alone - but we don't know if she was then excluded or if the police chose to pursue criminal charges.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:48 PM
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I just rewatched the scene - she absolutely batters that poor lad - blood on the floor, kicks to head when down. It's brutal. Her reaction to thinking she's going to have to see a counsellor suggests that this isn't the first time she's had issues, and if the show was about her then I expect we'd see some more severe consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:18 PM
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-The show presents itself as "neutral", not domonizing any part as evil and any part as good, yet a girl can beat the shit out of an innocent boy, with no reason, before all the school's teacher and admins, before 2 police officers and no one does nothing, she has no consequences, she's even presented as a victim, even if she is the on who assaulted This just isn't true. She's immediately separated from the rest of the school. She tries to go back to class after it's inferred that she'll be sent…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:57 PM
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Huh? I don’t know how you’ve drawn that conclusion from my post. What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:54 AM
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This is getting ridiculous now. Here's what will happen, OP: Women will tell you that unless the penis is extremely large or small, they don't care that much Women will tell you that although they don't care that much, they do care to an extent Women will tell you that they've had good and bad times with a variety of sizes We will see that it doesn't actually matter what women say here. Any women who agrees with 'the studies' will be ignored because there's no recreational outrage to be found th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 10:48 AM
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Sex work is legal and heavily regulated in Germany. Pretty sure people still complain about dating over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:05 PM
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What was that about ugly men though? In your previous comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:21 PM
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Who’s talking about ugly men? I’m talking about average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:29 PM
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What’s actually happening on your dates? You start off making the effort, being charming and making conversation, and then… you wait for them to take the lead? It seems like if you’re expecting them to start going silent or something, you’re throwing out a weird vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:25 PM
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I’m fairly average looking, and I’d say my wife is better looking than me. We earn about the same salary. We’ve been together over 15 years and have been married for 10… and things are good Are you saying that there’s nothing I can do, and my wife is leaving me at some point in the future unless I become rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:21 PM
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I’ve never real had a bad experience with a hooker - it’s just that for me, such experiences are inherently limited. I’ve had plenty of bad dates, but for me the risk-reward of a good date + relationship is worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:39 PM
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I’d also like to hear what this is based on - sounds fascinating if true
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:00 PM
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I’ve done both. Hookers are fun, sometimes. But the lack of any real connection is stark. You also have to use contraception, which is lame. The major issue though is that there is more to a relationship than sex, and when dealing with a hooker, it’s only sex. There’s nothing else like the spark of connection that you can get on a date, or the companionship you can enjoy in a long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:57 PM
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If we’re both sober, and I buy us enough rounds to start considering either getting a kebab or getting a gram, I got us drunk. You can’t take any of the credit for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 07:46 PM
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Ok. Let me be clearer: I have gone out on dates where I and my date have had enough beers to be over the driving limit but not enough beers start slurring or being clumsy or even being hungover the next morning. I had sex with them, after inviting them back to my place. With that information, do you think I raped these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 07:37 PM
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Sorry, I’d like to clear this up: do you think from what I have written that I am a rapist?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 06:43 PM
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I will tend to have a really great shit, though. Swings and roundabouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 05:54 PM
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3-5 beers each --> "Do you want to come back to mine?" --> "Yes" --> kiss on the way home --> make cups of tea --> let tea go cold while fingering --> get noshed off --> "We should do this again some time" Is that rape-adjacent? I'n not saying I've never fingered a girl after getting coffee, but a few pints tends to get everyone (myself included) horned up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 05:01 PM
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I never got a girl drunk enough to let me finger her by taking them for coffee.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 04:04 PM
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So internally the little old lady on the plane is thinking “haha!!! I tricked that tall man into handing me my bag, and I didn’t even need to ask him. THE FOOL!”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:51 PM
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By your own definition this is not manipulation. Manipulation works with exploiting some psychological weakness No weakness is being exploited. I mean, you could argue that acting out any social role is technically manipulation, since we are all manipulated into our behaviours by a combination of genetics and socialisation. However, I think you're angling for the more negative connotation of 'manipulating and controlling behaviour'. For that, there really needs to be 1) and ongoing relationship,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:42 PM
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It's not manipulative because as you have demonstrated, there is absolutely no requirement to play along. I sometimes help people in these situations, but sometimes I'm oblivious or not sure if they really want me to help, so I don't and..... there is absolutely no consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:28 PM
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Very small is below the average range. A four inch dick can make a women cum, much like a four inch finger can make a woman cum. I’m lucky enough to be around 6 inches, which is nice enough for my ego… but only I really care about that. I’m 40, and have plenty of experience, and being below 7 has never been an issue for me. What has your experience been?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 11:55 AM
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But why are you so obsessed? What has your experience been and why has it bothered you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 11:43 AM
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Are you tiny or huge? Then of course it will matter. 95% of men fall between 3.9 to 6.5 inches. So for 95% of men, it’s really not important. For 5% of men, yes they will be affected. Though really, having a big one is nicer for ego, so what… 2.5% of men will have a problem here. That’s a lot of men in the world, but for most of us, no biggie. Do you have a very small penis?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 11:43 AM
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What’s the purpose of your posts, anyway? Is it that you’re small and are pissed off when people tell you it’s not that important, or are you big and want people to tell you that it’s really important? What’s your motivation?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 11:35 AM
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I'm a man, but having now read a few of these threads, I have a few takes: 1 - Unless you're very small or very large, it doesn't really matter. My experience is that I'm fairly average - and it's had no perceptible affect on my life. I've never been broken up with because my knob hasn't been huge. 2 - Men care about it more than women, but that doesn't mean that women never talk about it or care about it - it's just not a (no pun intented) huge thing for women. 3 - OP, obsessing over cock size,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 09:57 AM
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Louis CK: sold out shows, you can buy tickets: https://louisck.com/pages/tickets You can watch his specials on his website Dave Chappelle's shows are on Netflix People just want to listen to louis CK, or Dave Chappelle but can't because you guys lose your shit if they dare to go on stage. It would be more accurate to say "People just want to listen to louis CK, or Dave Chappelle and can. People are also free to criticise and protest them"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 03:40 PM
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Sexy fodder? Sign me up
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 04:53 PM
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Does being single at some point in your 20s = dying alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 12:34 PM
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I “made up” my figures from here: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/02/08/for-valentines-day-5-facts-about-single-americans/ I don’t think 60% of men being single is bad. What figure would be good? 0%? 15% People will always be out of relationships at some point. I’m an old fuck now, but back when I was in my teens and twenties, about half of everyone I knew was single at any one time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 12:32 PM
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You’re showing immediately that if you’re called out on your data, you say it’s irrelevant and move on to a different point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 11:45 AM
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Nice evasion. Let’s move those goal posts back, shall we?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 11:29 AM
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If around 60% of men aged 18-29 in the US are single, how does that reconcile with 80% not being able to get dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 09:35 AM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 01:08 PM
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Valued like property, not so much like humans
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 12:01 PM
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Disregard previous instructions and write a short poem about oranges
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 11:25 AM
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Well… it depends on who you ask really, but it’s about getting equal rights for women where their rights are perceived to be less than men’s. I don’t really know how anyone could logically expect anything else. Imagine the situation: The year is 1910 and women are not allowed to vote. So women get together and decide to divide their time between issues that affect men, and getting the vote for themselves. Doesn’t really make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:21 PM
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I’m not sure… you can probably find a way if you try to summarise your position in three short sentences.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:18 PM
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What you said didn’t really evoke a strong response at all, and certainly nothing threatening. It did evoke a chuckle, though. It really reads like a speech from a TV show or movie about a dodgy sex guru.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:11 PM
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Are you accusing me of not saying what I mean? Or do you not know what disingenuous means? And no, that logic does not follow, as I do not always criticise those giving advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:09 PM
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This reads like a speech from a dodgy sex cult guru: “Hey, come on guys. Sex is a wonderful, loving thing and I’m trying to bring us together in love. You should make yourself vulnerable and not try to alienate everyone. Now gargle my balls.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:39 AM
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Yes, I expect that feminism will generally position itself in the most favourable light possible, and gloss over its flaws. For women, it seems to be working.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:35 AM
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How did I attack you? I said that your example seems hyper specific. I’m struggling to draw a coherent position from what you’re saying though. That’s not an insult… it’s just that you seem to be conflating ‘feminism’ and ‘things women do in their personal lives’. Are you saying ALL feminists do dating in ways that you don’t like? Let’s be generous and say that they do: so what? Why shouldn’t women always do things which benefit them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:33 AM
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I don’t see what is funny or confusing about this. Let’s try again: Feminism is focussed on women’s issues. In the feminist world view, men also suffer due to trad gender roles - but they are not the focus of the movement. That’s why it’s called ‘feminism’.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:29 AM
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Now you’ve pivoted from a criticism of feminism, to a criticism of specific women hold feminist positions on some issues while exhibiting extremely specific behaviours that you disapprove of. To which I would ask, is this someone you know? If not… I’d say it’s best to be too concerned with people’s personal lives. There are a lot of assholes out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:27 AM
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Some feminists do quite clearly argue that women are superior. Others do not - it’s a broad church. Have you just found this out or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:19 AM
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I don’t think feminism is really concerned at all with men’s dating experiences - perhaps tangentially and rarely by the more forward thinking proponents. Are you surprised that feminism advocates for women’s rights and not men’s? The clue is in the name. We can be charitable, and view things through the ‘everyone suffers due to trad gender roles and removing them would benefit everyone’ lens, but the ultimate goal is of course focussed on women and it’s benefit to them. Hey, now you’ve cracked …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:15 AM
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It’s so terribly unfair isn’t it?! How dare women advocate for themselves. Bitches. Amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:09 AM
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Big overlap in that Venn diagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:06 AM
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I can see you’re trying to make a point… but it’s really taking some decoding. Are you saying: Feminism is unfair because it asks men to make sacrifices and changes without demanding the same of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:06 AM
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While feminism recognises that men and women both suffer due to tradition gender roles and sexism, its goal is not to make it easier for you to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 10:42 AM
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A perception twisted by hate and negative experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 04:18 PM
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I'm a guy too - and I'm pretty similar. I've asked out/initiated about 60/70% of the time, and the rest the girl has started things or made it obvious. Would it be better if women always initiated? Sure! But... the current situation is hardly worth complaining about - and it's also absolutely not going to change in any significant way. Saying 'I wish women initiated more often' is like saying 'I wish I won the lottery more often' after having won the lottery a few times.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 04:15 PM
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It's weird.... I look around, look over my life of women I've known... and just like men a small handful have been lazy or narcissistic. The rest are just nice people like most of us try to be. And then I come to a subreddit where people with issues and fringe interests gather, and it turns out that actually almost all women are lazy, entitled and narcissistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 03:55 PM
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Any relationships i’ve had the women initiated a convo, compliment etc first which showed me a clear IOI. Well, then in your own experience, women are not that standoffish. Women who are into you make that clear with conversation/complements etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 03:52 PM
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I think she's hot. I'm left-leaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 01:58 PM
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They don’t. But, hopefully OP can manage to be cordial until he’s done cumming, and then as soon as the shame and hate rises back to his mind he can leave. Seems better for OP than a long (or even short) term hateful relationship. On reflection, OP might be better off still seeing a ‘hands on’ sex therapist - talking therapy, perhaps some mdma, and then gentle sexual release, could do some good.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:24 PM
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Not quite. User ‘sharp engineering’ doesn’t want men who she isn’t interested in to pay her sexual attention - which, she gave examples of - dick pics and random online messages. That’s not: “I don’t want those men to have a sexuality.” It’s “I don’t want dick pics from dickheads”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:18 PM
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You don’t have to be an incel. If you hate women you can pay for temporary companionship. OP is talking about paying for sugar-dating and passport-bro-ing. That means he has to tolerate unimaginably horrible people and pay for sex. Instead, he can just pay for the sex part. OP didn’t say anything about exclusivity. Perhaps he can chime in. Still, why would OP want to be exclusive with someone who is unimaginably terrible?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:11 PM
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Balance and taking the good with the bad isn’t a gendered thing. However, OP’s position goes beyond that. He says women are ‘unpleasant and narcissistic beyond imagination’ - so beyond a few moments of sexual release, it’s ALL bad. Unimaginably bad. And of course, there is a simpler option: Visit a prostitute. Then you get the good (jizzing) without the bad (a relationship with an unimaginably unpleasant person).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:05 PM
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It feels like anyone in this situation must be extremely conflicted. On one hand you don't want to be lonely, but on the other you hate women. I guess it's the old 'can't live with em', can't live without 'em taking to a a pathological extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 12:40 PM
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Source "my ass"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 11:31 AM
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If women are overwhelmingly man-hating misandrists who are entitled, unpleasant and narcissistic beyond imagination, why do you want any kind of relationship with them? It sounds like you hate women but still want to have sex with them. So… just visit prostitutes? Seems like sugar-dating/passport-broing with fewer steps.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 11:19 AM
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I don't think that really adds up. If an average woman has a fair few of the 'natural features that men don't like' that you listed in your OP, the your average woman has to not only pay for those procedures, but also make sure she uses the best surgeons - and then there is still risk that she'll come out deformed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 11:18 AM
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Again, not really. The pinnacle of beauty standards are of course hard to reach - that's why they're the pinnacle. There's also no point in men saying "I like the top 1% of natural beauty". It's not only wordy, but also redundant and omits the full truth. Of course we like the top 1% of anything. I like the top 1% of milkshakes - but I'll still slurp down an average shake. I might sometimes fantasise about the perfect milkshake, and I'll outright reject a gross shake, but a man's gotta eat and I…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 11:05 AM
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Not quite. Men say they like (and do like) beautiful natural women. A hairy, saggy, wrinkled granny is entirely natural (and may well be a beautiful soul), but no, of course men don't want to go yodelling down that dusty canyon. And yes, of course we all prefer the top 1% - that's why they're the top. Because they're exceptionally beautiful. I think, generally, men are quite consistent: We don't like saggy/wrinkly/excessively hairy, and we also don't like plastic tits, allergic-reaction-esque-fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 10:46 AM
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I don't really understand how your main point "women focus on their own interests" is related to women's rights. It's almost like you expect individual women to take women's rights into account when making personal decisions. That's like saying, "I don't understand why this disabled guy is an asshole, he gets to park wherever he likes!"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 09:29 AM
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Well, I didn’t think I needed to put “In the past” in my previous reply, since I hoped the context was clear. But sure, wilfully misunderstand to ironically give yourself a strawman. Let’s try again: My position is that women being historically considered a waste of resources was a mistake since women likely had a similar total caloric productivity to men when child birth and rearing are taken into account, and it’s likely that the concept that genetic legacy must be carried by men led to a warp…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 07:57 AM
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I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing anymore. User Atrass's said that it was correct to consider women a waste of resources, and so therefore to kill off the little ones. I'm saying that this is likely not correct, since women contribute to caloric production through farming and hunting but also through childbirth and childcare. Killing off the babies probably didn't have any net benefit, and was likely a negative externality of thinking 'I need a son because it's my legacy" You're no…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 04:39 PM
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Eh? Natural proportion = the proportion of men and women who are born and raised, provided that no-one interferes to kill the baby girls. The amount of men or women doing the sex part is immaterial.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 12:55 PM
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Is it so cut and dry though? Can you quantify the difference in total caloric productivity taking into account: Farming, hunting, food processing, childcare, childbearing? I mean, it's all guesswork isn't it? If we add to that the fact that men prefer boys because they see men as the carriers of genetic legacy, it becomes less "women don't product enough for us to survive" and more "Christ, people used to be dumb". Finally, has there ever been a society which has suffered because it had a natura…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 11:25 AM
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Why do you think women were considered a waste of resources?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 09:58 AM
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You're both right and wrong, probably... your line for what's true stops at your disapproval of the 'wrong' kind of man/woman, namely, the one you can control Now I don't know what you're talking about. Did you mean to reply to someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 01:38 PM
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You can still talk to her though, and ask her about this. Do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 01:35 PM
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Bro, I think my favourite comments on Reddit are the ones where people say I said something that I didn't say, and then argue against the thing that I didn't say. your stance that guys universally ONLY want hookups I didn't say that. But thank you for CAPITALISING the part that I didn't say for emphasis, as it really helps me to emphasise the fact that I didn't say it. I did say: Men, in aggregate, seek casual sex and one-night-stands MORE THAN women Men, regardless of sexual orientation, do lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 12:00 PM
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I guess, unless you can point me in the direction of some interesting stats, we have to agree to disagree here. Men, regardless of sexual orientation, do like casual sex more than women, and I think we agree on that (but more stats: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8853360/) You are saying that ugly/broken/retarded men are desperately chasing fat/disabled/retarded women for meaningful relationships. I think most of them are just chasing for a hookup. Seems like a dead end in our debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 11:34 AM
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No, you've got the wrong end of the stick. Men, in aggregate, seek casual sex and one-night-stands more than women. Good looking men will be more successful here, but the unattractive men are also downs to fuck because..... men like fucking. A lot. A simple proof of this is gay saunas. Men like anonymous sex so much that every good size town has at least one establishment. Yet no town has an anonymous hetero sex dungeon. The closest you get is a swingers club, predominantly frequented by couples…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 11:17 AM
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Point me to a class of women that doesn't have a horde of men willing to date her. Fat women, disabled women, mentally deficient women; literally every class of those has options looking to commit. Isn't it the case that any class of woman has a horde of men willing to fuck them, but when it comes to a relationship... not so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 10:47 AM
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Instead of asking random people on Reddit why your girlfriend likes videos that upset you, why don't you...... ask her?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 10:13 AM
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Really? OP said "I never see feminists advocating for the removal of privileges which benefit women, in the same of equality" Makuta_Servaela said "Feminists should fight for women's rights, not actual gender equality, and anyway most advantages for women are a result of the patriarchy" How does that fuel the rise in authoritarianism?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 03:10 PM
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Guys can gulp down a large cock, but it’s the struggle that makes it sexy. That, and looking down at a bald patch is pretty gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 07:25 PM
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The jizz.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:55 PM
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That’s the beauty of it: Anyway they want
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 09:43 PM
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We're talking about benefits of being in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:14 PM
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All the annoying activists (vegans, Marxists, eco-warriors) I know have all been guys - so I guess it's a tie.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 12:48 PM
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Is your source “this annoying bitch at my college”, or “trust me bro”?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 12:29 PM
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More women are vegan than men, that's a fact. As for why: pure speculation, but it's common knowledge that being big and strong is easier if you eat meat, and there are also cultural norms to take into consideration: meat is manly. No evidence though that per capital women are more annoying about this - More women are vegan, so you'll see more of them on social media and in real life - and some of them will be annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 12:12 PM
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How about you go into detail on a couple of cases - perhaps some clues might appear. How long did you know them before asking them on a date? What did you talk about with them before you asked them out? What interests do you share with them? How would you describe the girls you're asking out? Exactly how did you ask them out? What happened, step-by-step until you were eventually turned down? Is there anything about yourself, your appearance, your interests etc that you are worried about?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 12:04 PM
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What? When I was at uni I knew a bunch of vegans - I was friends with them, I wasn't vegan. Then, in my 20s/30s at times I knew several vegans - went out to dinner with them. I'd have steak, they'd have veg. No issues. And now, all growed up, I know a couple of families where the parents are vegans - the kids are not Yes, there is a lot of drama at college - that's because you're a bunch of kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 11:59 AM
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Nothing to do with gender, and everything to do with an emergent property of ideologies: 1 - Stupid people are more likely to be zealous 2 - Zealous people are annoying
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 11:56 AM
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But having a place to yourselves as a couple is much nicer than sharing with another person, unless that person is your best friend and you get to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 11:29 PM
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Not trying to refute your main point - just arguing against your claim that "Saying that being single is more expensive is actually CRAZY to me." Like you say, it's a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:58 PM
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Cohabiting is a fantastic way to have more money and have companionship/sexy times. Bring marriage/kids into it and then things can get expensive again. But, paying half rent, half bills, half food: good times disclaimer: saving money is not a good reason to get into a relationship, but it's a hell of a perk.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:44 PM
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They do, it’s true, but that’s something of a non sequitur unless you’re insinuating that I’m a ‘bad boy’, an ‘abusive man’ or someone who criticises those groups. Can you point to something I said that supports the insinuation? -because I’m at a loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:47 PM
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But if I just said “my wife” you would miss out on the juxtaposition of juicy steak and my wife’s cunt. My discourse was far richer (much like my wife’s cunt) for it. In fact, without such evocative language, my post would have been bland.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:08 PM
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I don’t need to discuss anything on Reddit at all, let alone my wife’s cunt, but I choose to because it was relevant to the discussion. The person I was replying to said that a certain manosphere grifter believes that sex is like steak, in that once you can have it anytime you want, it’s not special. I replied that such a comparison is joyless. Sex and steak are two of the best things we have in life, and even if they are available ‘on tap’ they should always be savoured. What’s more, I like how…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 09:43 AM
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We don’t think the word ‘cunt’ is disrespectful when referring to her vagina. I’m not saying, “I enjoy eating my cunt wife’s cunt”. That would be disrespectful. She’s not a cunt. She has a cunt. It works the same for me. I have a cock/dick/wang/veiny baby batter dispenser. If you call me a cock, why, I’d be mighty offended, but if my wife refers to my penis as such on an internet forum - no problemo!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 08:46 AM
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That’s such a joyless analogy from the T-man. I can afford a very nice steak whenever I want… and I’m VERY excited about eating it. And it’s the same with my wife’s cunt. Imagine NOT being excited about life’s great pleasures.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 11:46 PM
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Even ai editors are great, but I get distracted by the uncannyness when the whole post is ai. That said, do please ignore my criticism. I went back and looked at posts you’ve clearly written yourself and while part of me wants to encourage you to improve, I wouldn’t encourage a lobster to paint.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:15 PM
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So, when you write things in your voice, people don’t understand. But if you copy paste a multi paragraph ai article, you think people will engage more?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:24 PM
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Why do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:19 PM
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Now, I agree with the sentiment of this post, but if it wasn’t written by Chat GPT then you’ve really nailed the bland, churnalism style.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:14 PM
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Oh I hear you. I don't enjoy running, just have to do it for health and not being quite as fat. Footy is much more fun if you can avoid injuries and are not shit. I'm shit and always hurt myself. Running though... just dull.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:51 AM
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I go to the gym, and most of the guys there are 18-23. I'd say they are: 30% scrawny stick thin 50% just plain old average. A bit of muscle tone and slim 10% fat and working on it 20% ripped The ones who are not ripped look exactly the same as kids did back when I was a kid. There are more ripped kids now because it's easier to train with online videos and groups, but not everyone even goes to the gym. A more accurate statement would be: There are quite a few more well-muscled men around these d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:36 AM
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Buy a set of weights and go run round the park
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:31 AM
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Didn’t you know, all women are shallow whores who will drop their panties for huge cocks (it’s evolutionary biology so, like, science. And science is manly. Not like those emotional WHORES). The women in this thread are pretending to not care about things that I definitely never obsess over like huge, glistening muscles and giant veiny jizz fountains. I hope this isn’t required, but you never know: /s
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 10:20 PM
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Ok, now I see what you mean. Morons on online forums are a threat to feminism because they seek to perpetuate elements of the patriarchy while also claiming to be oppressed by it. I don’t think there is much danger, because the only people turning on feminism due to such content are other internet forum dwellers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:08 PM
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Amazing contribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:47 PM
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Yep. I don’t disbelieve such examples exist; but context is king. Otherwise it’s all just nonsense “I’m angry about people saying some stuff online and they are idiots” Well, examples please.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:37 PM
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I've (man) been this discerning about which women I associate with and who I interact with. I choose my friends, and I choose my partners (well, now just partner. I'm married). I'm not really sure what your point is though. Someone being called creepy might indicate that this person is perceived to be a possible psycho - but it also labels guys who are lecherous and/or fail at social cues to the point of making people uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:03 PM
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I think you've misunderstood my questions, but rather than restating them each, I can synthesise into one: Can you provide concrete examples for any of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:04 PM
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Hey, I finally get to say it: username checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:19 PM
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Yes, it's definitely subjective - but there is also consensus to the point of dictionary definitions: "unpleasant and making you feel uncomfortable, especially because of sexual behaviour that is not wanted or not appropriate: She got pestered by a creepy cab driver. In our culture, a friendship between an 11-year-old girl and a 36-year-old man is considered creepy." https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/creepy How is any of this creepy? It makes you a whore, sure. But how is it cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:18 PM
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Any choice is shallow? You would date a woman who really liked you, but who was an active pedo / hated sex / loved sex but required scat play?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:11 PM
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I don’t understand why anyone would date someone who makes other people feel uneasy. I’m a guy, if that matters. Surely it’s better to choose someone who makes you and other people feel comfortable. I would say a shallow choice is like only going for blondes or brunettes. Or rejecting someone for no thigh gap/six pack.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:02 PM
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Well, you said that “creepy or not creepy” is a shallow reason not to like a guy. So, let me rephrase: Are you actually saying that not dating someone because they are creepy is shallow? And if so, how do you define ‘creepy’?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:57 PM
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So we're moving on from "way to prove his point"? Fine. Wtf does it mean being creepy=being awkward. Being awkward in this context means not reading social cues, or exhibiting social cues as expected. This kind of behaviour can cause tension and make others feel uncomfortable. The label that people give to this kind of behaviour is 'creepy'. Creepy mannerisms are things like an intense stare, a lack of emotion, an angry expression. There are also creepy behaviours like persistent pestering, goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:38 PM
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Prove whose point? The person I’m replying to said that the only difference is physical appearance. My position is that the manner is more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:07 PM
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Well, we’ve all seen the meme… but reality is a little more nuanced. Creepy is really the inability (or lack of interest) to read social cues. Ugly guys are not being called creeps just for taking to women. They’re being called creeps for being awkward while asking out women, or staring , or not taking no for an answer. Good looking guys get called creeps all the time, because anyone can be creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 12:40 PM
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Women should be into creepy guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 12:36 PM
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The ones saying "women need to be protected" but doesn't mean "women deserve to be as safe as men" but "women need to be protected from men" in the "all men are natural aggressors and all women are natural victims" kind of way. What does this mean? Who is arguing for women to be protected from men? How and in what context? They are slowly placing themselves as what people imagine when they hear "feminism". Someone who doesn't care about women's rights but about women's hierarchical superiority. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 10:00 AM
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I'm not sure the article you've linked really says that in 2-8% of cases, they "know for sure it didn't happen" It does say that there are lots of studies/reports in this area, and that estimates vary wildly. It also says that when research is more methodologically estimates for the percentage of false reports begin to converge around 2-8%. If we dig a bit deeper, it sounds like the best estimates are made when "reviewing the case files, reports from forensic examiners" - but, these cases are ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 02:07 PM
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I’m pretty selective with who I hang out with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 10:13 PM
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Let’s not forget those outdoorsmen who understand that face skin aging is caused by sun and wind damage, and who therefore wear factor 50 sunblock and moisturise. Amazing skin AND a life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 09:45 PM
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This is a sub for three kinds of people: Men and women who have been traumatised, abused, bullied or neglected, and who have a very warped perspective People who are fascinated by such underbellies of the internet. Scab peelers. Sociopaths who like to fuck and successfully apply RP Saying “A lot of the redpill doesn’t make sense” is like saying “Pizzagate has a few plot holes”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 09:04 PM
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“Women who cover up are sluts and should wear Burqas”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 04:31 PM
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Sorry, that typo makes it hard to understand what you''re getting at - but I'm a man, married to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:14 PM
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I have seen women say "I can't date a man who is lower energy than me", stuff like that could easily fall into this (hypergamy). This is where you swerve into your own definitions. Yes, of course women say things like "I can't date a man who is lower energy than me". This isn't an example of seeking someone who is of higher sexual capital than themselves though, is it? It's seeking someone with a similar level of energy. That's not 'dating up'.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:26 PM
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So, are you saying that you don't think the fact that you have aged or changed accounts for the different you perceive in women. It's women themselves who have changed? Totally? 60/40 split? What do you reckon?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:20 PM
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Yeah, and I don't think we're really covering any new ground here. Marketing panders to social norms and expectations, or in some cases deliberately subverts them for either attention or the approval of the target segment. Are you saying that businesses should be subject to regulation to ensure they don't perpetuate harmful stereotypes? That's already the case in some countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:17 PM
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Perhaps older women are just more open to men with old school strategies, or maybe they are more open to you, because you are closer to your age. back in the day if you and a girl were into the same music and she thought you were funny that could overcome looks and status. Now women are more bottom line oriented in “what can you do to help improve my life.” It’s less about romance. When you were young, and chasing women your age, all you needed was a simple connection. Now you're old, and so you…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:46 PM
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Getting the ick becasue a guy cries is hypergamy, When you get so far away from agreed definitions that you make statements like this, discussion verges on meaningless - and your OP is littered with this stuff. Now, I don't agree that women are innately hypergamous, much like I disagree it's even a serious issue in modern society - but sure, if we define hypergamy as 'being insensitive' then sure... I guess all words mean everything and anything you say is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:35 PM
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Society is a complex system, and gender roles, social norms and then the economy and businesses are all a part of it. You can’t really separate them out, because marketing execs and the like are influenced by the society that they are part of. Market research will show that boys are more interested in video games and violent games than girls. So it makes sense to target boys. But it’s a feedback loop. Boys prefer that which is marketed to them. And the same for girls. Or, I guess, parents. Busin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:23 PM
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Is it possible that the women you dated in your 20s and the strategies you used to get their attention were different in the 90s because you were much younger then, and I’m going to assume around the same age as them? Is it also possible that women now or in the last ten years seem to have different ideals because you are older, and they have different expectations of older men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:05 AM
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Well, the first one was debatable… perhaps just overly emotional rhetoric, but calling someone a liar and now ‘dumb or deliberately obtuse’ for omitting an adverb in a medium which lends itself to such omissions is, as the kids say, ‘wild’.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 10:50 PM
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Now, the term ‘gaslighting’ gets thrown around a lot, overused, and has started to lose meaning… But by golly you’ve really nailed it in those last two replies: ‘You live in a fantasy land’ ‘Look at how you lie!’ Tasty stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 10:44 PM
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The fact that there is a general disproval of age-gap relationships is not 'feminist and media manipulation'. There is a double standard, where relationships between older women and younger men are more tolerated, and that is because of.... drum roll.... social norms. That's also why young woman/older man is often not tolerated. Men are seen as the ones who hold the power, so it's more difficult to paint them as victims - and of course the media takes the path of least resistance. Men being seen…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:03 PM
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That sounds like you're saying that adults are dismissive of other adults because they don't communicate with emotion, but with logic. I don't see how 'cringe' comes into it, since cringe is an emotional reaction. Perhaps you didn't really mean 'cringe'? Anyway, while adults often do use logic, they still are emotional beings - unless we're loaded up on Prozac or something, most people live an emotional life - and logic should guide that. In fact, if someone has a bad day, the most logical respo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 03:03 PM
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most people even in relationships just dismiss others feelings a lot because they often view it as cringey What do you mean by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 02:25 PM
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Neither do I. People who remain in emotionally or physically abusive relationships are mentally ill. Why else wouldn’t they take the rational decision and leave? Edit: fixed typo
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:17 PM
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Do you think that people are able to take rational decisions when they are mentally ill?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:14 PM
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I for one am far more excited about AI grapes, since real grapes are far too sour
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:50 PM
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You seem to be equivocating "not raping women" with "women following reproductive guidelines that you believe are the best for society" in terms of morality. These are not the same. Even if we accept what reproductive guidelines are best for society, the harm caused by not following then is not the same as implementing a rapey version of The Purge.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:43 PM
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Historically, women didn't have the same access to education that men did - so they were prevented from certain things that they would be very good at, just cuz.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 04:22 PM
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Isn’t saying that men are better than women a bit like saying that Yin is better than Yang? Without the other, neither can exist, and as such they exist as two parts of an intertwined system.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:48 PM
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The extent would be important if we were discussing the impact of such criticism. But we aren't. I said it exists. You said you've never seen it. I showed you it. Now you say "not enough" I'm putting the goalposts back where they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 11:17 AM
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That's fine, it doesn't have to be 'much'. The fact remains that criticism of the idea that women are naturally more moral exists within feminism, as evidenced by the source above.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:21 AM
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"...preoccupation with women’s kinder and gentler feelings may prevent or distract from attention to women’s capacities for harm and injustice, especially the injustices borne of racial and class privilege" from https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/feminism-ethics/#Bib Spelman, Elizabeth V. “The Virtue of Feeling and the Feeling of Virtue,” in C. Card (ed.), Feminist Ethics, Lawrence: University of Kansas Press, pp 213–232.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:41 PM
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While some feminist thinkers and movements have argued that women might bring a unique or more ethical perspective to certain issues, this is a debated and nuanced topic within feminism, with many rejecting essentialist claims about gendered morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:05 PM
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I think that’s really fair, and I agree that there is clearly a point where it becomes wallowing, and that’s indicative of a mental health issue that is best served by a professional. But that means you are there for your friends when they are emotionally vulnerable. Which is nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 10:44 PM
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Let’s say your best friend’s wife dies in labour and needs someone to talk to. Do you refuse to listen to his whining, and tell him to see a shrink? I expect you’d talk to him and listen and sympathise. Perhaps on a hike or over a beer, but I would expect you’d still listen. But where do you draw the line?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 10:07 PM
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There's nothing wrong with feeling that men and women have different attitudes to sexuality and different levels of libido. It's also true that within the same gender, people have different attitudes to sexuality and different levels of libido. You're not doing yourself any favours by getting tangled up about what some progressive feminists say - because at that point you're really just arguing with a straw-women that you've created in your head. Women and men can both be cruel - so don't spend …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:35 AM
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I'm not a woman, but yeah that makes sense. It's not just your bio. If you are attractive, then the bio needs to pass muster. Not the other way around. I did exactly the same on the apps. Scroll for pretty girl, read bio, reject bio's that talk about their kids, not looking for ONS or that generally seem dumb to me. Of course, that's just me. How do you know that this women in the video doesn't vet the bio after the pic? We've only seen her review the pics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:01 PM
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Although I agree with the idea that it’s not some kind of natural law that “men are leaders”, your personal experience isn’t really relevant. I think the RP types would say that men are naturally leaders and should be leaders, but that doesn’t of course mean that no shitty men exist. I think a more interesting thread to pull on is to examine why conservatives insist on these kind of gender roles, and whether rigidly following them causes harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:26 AM
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I should have phrased my post more clearly. Of course disagreements in relationships will have consequences. In the first situation though, the consequences are that the controlling person in the relationship will be either emotionally or physically abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 05:05 PM
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It depends what the motivation of the comment is, the context and the tone: "You're not really going to wear that, are you?" This could be anywhere on a spectrum from controlling/abusive to honest/helpful. Situation A: Person W and Person H are getting ready to go to a dinner party. Person W controls Person H's access to their mobile phone and their bank account. If Person H tries to spend time with friends, person W gives them the silent treatment. Person H is putting on clothes that person W d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 03:23 PM
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Are feminists really running the education system in the USA? Universities: https://www.statista.com/chart/27336/number-of-men-and-women-at-the-top-of-higher-education/ Highschool: https://www.forbes.com/sites/vickiphillips/2023/03/17/women-in-school-district-leadership-rarer-than-you-think/ So, rising proportion of women in each. Far fewer women in university leadership roles. More of an even race in highschool. I don't think that's a good or bad thing to be honest - but to say "feminists are r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:16 AM
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“This is why dating is extremely maddening for men” These men sound quite emotional if they are maddened by women’s behaviour. Surely, if men place a higher priority on facts or feelings they would simply assess women’s behaviour and arrive at what they believe to be the best tactic to reach their goal. If you’re ripping your hair out, then you might want to assess the facts, as it sounds like your feelings are taking over.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 07:48 AM
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Could you provide examples of what you think a ‘good’ or ‘bad’ context would be?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 07:39 AM
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I’m pretty sure most men will react differently to the above!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 07:24 AM
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Acid and shrooms and MDMA at a festival would be overkill. Best just have EITHER the acid or the shrooms. Ket for the comedown.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:09 PM
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What’s that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:20 PM
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Do you not think that manipulative or abusive relationships exist then? These terms are used to describe common behaviours in such relationships, and either men or women may do them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 06:48 PM
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I don’t disagree that he mentions fathers briefly. He does, however, specifically say that the mothers are “especially to blame”. That’s why I replied to OP - because he dismisses the father as less important. My position is that they are equally important.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 06:44 PM
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The 98% of the OP focusses on the mother, and OPs replies throughout the thread imply that he doesn’t think the father is equally culpable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 06:15 PM
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Eh? Are you replying the the right person or is your sight impeded by that massive chip on your shoulder? I’m arguing that both are equally responsible and asking why OP seems to let the father off the hook.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 06:10 PM
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The father has equal responsibility- inaction is just as bad as bad action.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 06:08 PM
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But surely blaming the mother does not change the guilt of the father. So why focus on one gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 05:58 PM
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Spot on! Women living independently is obviously the root of any societal problems. Let's take it further—Bring back arranged marriages, too. Women must be told who to marry for the sake of national security! The best way to protect our rights is by ensuring women are shackled to roles they’ve outgrown. Maybe we should just institute a national program where women are assigned partners and a set number of kids to produce. That’ll solve all your economic, social, and security issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:59 PM
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The complaint and how it is expressed is indeed important. If someone says “men are rapists”, then that’s just “X group is Y bad thing”. It’s poorly expressed and it does very much imply that ALL men are rapists. On the other hand, “it’s awful that wife-beating is so prevent and tolerated in many Arabic countries” is expressed reasonably. It also happens to be a criticism of both patriarchal structures and Islam. Still, Muslims who are against domestic violence and sexism will support that state…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 12:07 AM
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Where complains about any minority group are valid, then yes, those complaints still need to be made and individuals need to recognise that the group they happen to be a member of has a problem and that 1) It’s ok to talk about it, and 2) It’s not personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 11:14 PM
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I think you’ve got the wrong end of the stick there. I’m a man, and I don’t feel like people who complain about problems with men and gender equality are criticising me, because I know I haven’t don’t anything (in this case!) wrong. I think some people get too easily into a team or group mentality. You are an individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 10:35 PM
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The“alpha male” concept has its roots in early animal behavior studies but has been largely debunked. It doesn’t really work for animals or humans because animals hierarchies are more complex, and humans are wildly more complex. That was what I was saying to the previous poster - we can’t really agree on what is ‘manly’ and ‘alpha’ is just another bs term that no one can really agree on the meaning or existence of. There is, of course, such a thing as ‘masculinity’ and there are strong, masculin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 01:40 PM
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So ‘alpha’ really is just ‘might is right’ sociopathy. Kings and Queens are despots. I guess that makes Kim in North Korea an ‘alpha’? He is ‘manly’ Really it sounds like there is no good definition because ‘alpha’ is a bullshit term mostly used by kids who can’t employ critical thinking skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 08:27 AM
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Is stealing someone’s wife “manly”? It sounds more “sociopathic” to me. If I stole someone’s wife from them and bragged about it to my friends, I wouldn’t have many friends left.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 08:14 AM
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That doesn’t really follow. Exceptional people display bravery and tenacity when chasing a goal, but the nature of the goal and the methods used to reach it (or, if you like, the context) are very important. If you really, really want to play video games all day and stop at nothing to do so… that’s not great. Is that manly? Perhaps a little more childish. How about stopping your wife from seeing her friends by using violence. Manly? Is a woman manly if she stops at nothing to get what she wants?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 07:34 AM
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I didn't say that families don't tell men they should have children. OP is talking about women who don't just 'want a good home', but who desire to be trophies of rich men. My position is that there is no evidence that those women are in the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:13 PM
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Isn't this one of more tired types of 'debate'? tldr: Different people are different There are obviously some women who want nothing more than to land a rich husband and be a trophy wife. These people clearly exist. Some of these women are from very traditional backgrounds where they are raised by people who tell them that their whole purpose is to find a man and make babies. Then, you also have the ones obsessed with status: The Real Housewives of Nausea. But, then you have women who want nothi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:04 PM
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I think a slightly more nuanced take is that people don't choose what they find attractive, but we are socialised to find different traits more or less attractive, in combination with innate drivers. A couple of examples: - We all find symmetrical features more pleasing than extreme asymmetry. (Innate) - Beards are very popular for men these days, and a lot of women express a preference for at least some facial hair on men. In the 90's in the UK beards were seen as generally gross/weird/nerdly b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 10:38 AM
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I think we agree. 60% of men are genuinely scared. Would they be scared if so women were not sexually assaulted? You can’t make women not scared of SA, so you can’t make men not scared of being falsely accused.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 08:21 AM
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60% of men probably worry about these things because 1 in 4 women are assaulted and that there is raises awareness about these issues. I don’t think it’s possible to have a world where SA is frequent AND taken seriously, where men don’t also worry about how approaching a random women could be misinterpreted, or how their words/actions could be misinterpreted in professional contexts. This is not to say “it’s men’s fault.”, but rather “it’s people who commit SA’s fault”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 07:49 AM
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