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| 1 | Ladies, when visiting a man's home for the first time what impresses the most?I'm a guy, but I'd like to think it's my large ceramic phallus, which is actually the original from A Clockwork Orange. | /r/seduction | 11/04/21 04:03 AM |
| 1 | There is no reason why you can't shed a past identity and become a new and better version of yourself. You just need to be aware of the following...Try to identify the reasons behind people’s actions before you judge them. In addition, be aware of becoming resentful of your complacent friends who may serve as constant reminders of what you are fighting so hard to escape. As stated by Robert Pirsig: This one's really important actually. If you can't forgive such complacency, you probably won't make it, or otherwise simply aren't ready, to really make a change for yourself. | /r/seduction | 25/03/21 05:46 AM |
| 2 | Most common mistakes men make on datesAnyway, what do you know about determinants? Want to go through my history and take a whack at that problem or not? | /r/seduction | 23/03/21 02:46 AM |
| 1 | Most common mistakes men make on datesLol hilarious. Nah really though, I'm comfortable with my mom's heterosexuality, enough to take these very light jokes in stride. | /r/seduction | 23/03/21 02:44 AM |
| 2 | Most common mistakes men make on datesHaha. Unironically, this is why men become gay. They'll still say I'm "shit posting," but they know it's the truth. If they weren't gay, they wouldn't be getting offended and commenting anyway... | /r/seduction | 23/03/21 02:42 AM |
| 8 | Most common mistakes men make on datesWhat's with the casual suicide references these days though. Eh, I don't think you need to read their post though. Reddit's a joke anyway. Why do you think I just ask people why they're gay? People can't even help me answer my very basic questions about determinants, and hardly anyone here has any fucking clue what they're talking about. Just don't give a shit, about Reddit or random women, because you shouldn't. Period. | /r/seduction | 23/03/21 02:33 AM |
| 5 | Help: Girls keep thinking that I'm gay! What can i do?I've experienced this also. In terms of concrete advice? Stop caring, though that can be easier said than done. Anyway, reading the rest of this comment will probably shed some light on how it's not you at all here. (This stuff really fucked with my mind for a long time too-look up "homosexual OCD," because just about everything described there, I have experienced. It makes you doubt yourself and withdraw from society, if you let it, which is probably the plan.) It's not you, it's just that girl… | /r/seduction | 21/03/21 08:37 PM |
| 1 | Becoming more physically attractive has made me realize I’m def gonna be single foreverAnd we don't know OP isn't, so why are you trying to portray them this way? In other words, what is your real agenda here? | /r/seduction | 21/03/21 07:37 PM |
| 2 | Becoming more physically attractive has made me realize I’m def gonna be single foreverThe point though if that their argument here is entirely similar to the parent commenter's, but no one wants to consider that apparently. (Edit: And there is actually a lot of psychology suggesting that those who are repressed sexually act out violently, becoming rapists, murderers, etc. Regardless of politics, you should believe this.) Stupid games get stupid prizes. | /r/seduction | 21/03/21 07:35 PM |
| 1 | Becoming more physically attractive has made me realize I’m def gonna be single foreverYeah how do they have nearly 100 karma? | /r/seduction | 21/03/21 07:33 PM |
| 2 | Becoming more physically attractive has made me realize I’m def gonna be single foreverThis is the most pseudoscientific bullshit. How people don't downvote this crap about "energy from your dick coming straight back into you" is beyond me. Do you realize that Seinfeld episode is a comedy? And that comedy is about irony? | /r/seduction | 21/03/21 07:32 PM |
| 1 | Becoming more physically attractive has made me realize I’m def gonna be single foreveryou can’t think your way out of thinking. ??? Why would or should they try to? | /r/seduction | 21/03/21 07:28 PM |
| 1 | Becoming more physically attractive has made me realize I’m def gonna be single foreverYou haven't given any information on what exactly your psychology being "fucked" means. So no one here is really going to help you, and they're just going to give the generic "see a therapist" responses. Good luck with that. | /r/seduction | 21/03/21 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Having a difficult time even justifying the effort of romance or dating.In America it's very hard for men to raise kids because it's a competition here and not a team effort. What do you mean here exactly? That men and women compete over being better caregivers to children? Or that they will eventually compete when they get divorced, so they compete already beforehand, and that divorce is relatively more common in America? (Not sure how true that is, but it wouldn't surprise me.) | /r/seduction | 15/03/21 12:50 AM |
| 14 | Having a difficult time even justifying the effort of romance or dating.In other matters, I'm nowhere near being an America-hater, but unfortunately I think you may be onto something here. I can't tell if it's mostly the pop culture elements, feminism and the accompanying hate for anything remotely conservative, the hypercritical views towards men, general entitlement, or what, but yeah dating American girls is probably a lot harder than dating girls elsewhere. Sure, there are decent ones out there, but statistically your odds of finding one are going to be much low… | /r/seduction | 15/03/21 12:39 AM |
| 1 | Having a difficult time even justifying the effort of romance or dating.This is probably the first book one heard from reddit (apart from technical subjects) I've wanted to try. The overall quality message of your comment suggests it may be worthwhile. | /r/seduction | 15/03/21 12:33 AM |
| -2 | Women Want Men Who Are Superior To ThemYeah LMFAO about the pedophilia insinuation...that surely isn't projection. | /r/seduction | 12/03/21 11:59 PM |
| -1 | Women Want Men Who Are Superior To ThemWhy do gay men even come to this subreddit? It was/is very clearly for straight interactions. Hmm...sounds like straight-chasing I suppose? | /r/seduction | 12/03/21 11:57 PM |
| 1 | Don't blindly trust what you read. Think about it. Compare it to your own experiences. Remember that in today's internet world, anyone can write anything. A guy who has never been on a date, or even made eye contact with a girl, can write an ebook, website, or forum post.I used to think dressing up as Superman and standing on a street corner would get me girls. Haha, what? Did you also want to be a tyrannosaurus rex when you were 17? But yes, this post overall is reasonable. I want to add though, that someone who's never dated can still give good dating advice. If someone like Mark Manson had essentially no dating success, yet still wrote a book that appealed to many, resulting in actual value for others? There's nothing inherently wrong with this. This seems to… | /r/seduction | 05/03/21 10:14 PM |
| 5 | Approached two girls at a bar last night and made a fool of myself.This is very solid advice. I only wish I could avoid my habit of looking away when I lock eyes with someone; it's really not that I'm nervous, but I'm just never sure they're trying to look at me, (it could be accidental or momentary) and wonder then it might make women uncomfortable. | /r/seduction | 01/03/21 08:24 PM |
| 1 | I wonder how many guys in the seduction community are actually high value vs how many of them are trying to create the illusion of high value.Very good comment. This should be further up. | /r/seduction | 17/02/21 12:11 AM |
| 1 | I wonder how many guys in the seduction community are actually high value vs how many of them are trying to create the illusion of high value.He didn't really say that's what's valuable to him though, just that it appears to be what's usually considered valuable by most, especially women when it comes to dating men. And those things are objectively correlated with dating success. See I read it as saying we should try to collect more honest data on this stuff, maybe by sampling the members here... though of course we can't force people to be honest. It would be very revealing and helpful though. | /r/seduction | 16/02/21 11:55 PM |
| 1 | 90% of the dating coaches out there are full of shit and they can make you infertile.How is trying psychedelics supposed to help in any way though? People act like they just open your mind to the reality of the world, but I've tried them and that's nonsense. Not only do I have better epiphanies sober, that's the only time I've had such epiphanies. (Excluding things like alcohol and such which hardly affect your mind too much, in small amounts anyway.) I'm more concerned about how or why people act like psychedelics are miracle substances that help you literally see God than anyt… | /r/seduction | 15/02/21 11:26 PM |
| 1 | Putting the "nice guy" vs "jerk" vs "kind" debate to rest. [Part 1]If you wouldn't want to be friends with her but would want to date her, that either means that something's off, or just that you've only got so much time, and have to prioritize romance, because you've already got all of the friendships you'll have time to maintain. But what is never okay is pretending to want to be her friend when what you are really hoping for is a romantic relationship. This is creepy, and is seriously damaging to women when it inevitably comes to light. But those two are exa… | /r/seduction | 10/02/21 11:54 PM |
| 6 | Putting the "nice guy" vs "jerk" vs "kind" debate to rest. [Part 1]Frankly I'm surprised there aren't any women in the comments complaining about your comment here... | /r/seduction | 10/02/21 11:49 PM |
| 8 | Putting the "nice guy" vs "jerk" vs "kind" debate to rest. [Part 1]Bro this is starting to sound kind of gay | /r/seduction | 10/02/21 11:45 PM |
| 2 | Putting the "nice guy" vs "jerk" vs "kind" debate to rest. [Part 1]Lol wat | /r/seduction | 10/02/21 11:44 PM |
| 1 | Men who see women as human beings will find more success than men who see women as objects, and use them to impress others, or try to get a reputation as a 'player'. When you're humble about your skills, the game becomes a lot easier.As a guy, my issue with it is that it's just so damn obvious anyway. So I see what you're saying; it's like their headline could have been "women will think you're a good guy when you're a good guy." Also, this subreddit is or was the PUA movement. It's like they're trying to distance themselves from that association. But then I can understand and empathize here because men are constantly under attack in society; say you're an actual nice guy, well you'll have seen so many criticisms of "nice gu… | /r/seduction | 07/02/21 10:40 PM |
| 3 | Men who see women as human beings will find more success than men who see women as objects, and use them to impress others, or try to get a reputation as a 'player'. When you're humble about your skills, the game becomes a lot easier.Well all success has an expiration date anyway | /r/seduction | 07/02/21 10:28 PM |
| 16 | Men who see women as human beings will find more success than men who see women as objects, and use them to impress others, or try to get a reputation as a 'player'. When you're humble about your skills, the game becomes a lot easier.Why did it take you till your 30s to realize this though? So many women say stuff like this in comments, and I don't get it, because it makes it look like women really are the weaker sex, which of course, if a man were you say this, would be called sexist. As others have said, yeah your comment is kind of empowering to that type of man. | /r/seduction | 07/02/21 10:23 PM |
| 2 | The Single Most Attractive Trait in a PersonSo what exactly is "a vibe?" (Because it sounds like it's just "being attractive." My point here is that you're running in circles, and not really addressing their comment.) | /r/seduction | 06/02/21 11:05 PM |
| 2 | The Single Most Attractive Trait in a PersonHow exactly? | /r/seduction | 06/02/21 11:04 PM |
| 1 | The Single Most Attractive Trait in a PersonYeah man fuck this subreddit, I similarly made such a comment. (Though with some seriousness, as Biden is clearly an actual pedophile.) It's called humor. I suspect you don't need to hear that, but others evidently do. (Or maybe they don't find it funny because they take being pedophiles seriously? Hmm...) | /r/seduction | 06/02/21 10:50 PM |
| 0 | The Single Most Attractive Trait in a PersonSo you're telling us to be pedophiles? Clearly this is the case, given the current presidential administration. | /r/seduction | 06/02/21 10:48 PM |
| 5 | No one told me this, so here you goIt can be rough being a guy in today's world, where I think the social narratives put men on the defensive and women on the offensive; men are often cautious about doing things they'd be criticized for, and thus abstain from acting how they would naturally, even when such natural actions aren't morally wrong or come at the expense of others, whereas women, being told they are always oppressed by the patriarchy and such, are emboldened to act selfishly and immorally, because they grow up believin… | /r/seduction | 01/02/21 12:31 AM |
| 1 | Do NOT tell frustrated young men to "be nice." It creates incels.The entire "nice guy" narrative just never should have existed. And it's nearly all people talk about on these subreddits too, it appears. There's other things to look at here. | /r/seduction | 07/01/21 12:35 AM |
| 2 | Do NOT tell frustrated young men to "be nice." It creates incels.A breakthrough occurs when you realize men are actually the fish, and women the fishermen, in this scenario. In a world where the only food the fish can eat is on the hook, that is. The incels are the asexual starving fish, while those getting dating and having sex know how to flirt with the hook while not winding up on the dinner table... | /r/seduction | 07/01/21 12:31 AM |
| 2 | A good way to combat neediness and need for approvalPersonally I've tried meditating, and yes, took it seriously, and it just wasn't helpful for me. (In the sense that "seriously" is meant to be interpreted regarding meditation; and this is something that really annoys me about people advising meditation, that they always want to dismiss or discount you, saying "you probably didn't do it right though" when you tell them it doesn't work for you. They're like cannabis users, which probably shouldn't be surprising considering the overlap between the… | /r/seduction | 29/12/20 11:56 PM |
| 2 | The play of alcohol, nicotine, and drugs in gamePersonally I don't find things like alcohol or nicotine to affect me much at all, other than upsetting my stomach. Usually people will just blame that on being a "dry drunk," but this definitely isn't the case, as I've stopped drinking entirely for well over a year, and similarly (to a lesser extent, maybe a few months) with nicotine. I know it's not entirely objective, but then drugs really are difficult to make objective statements about when it comes to how they affect perception, but I tend … | /r/seduction | 22/12/20 04:46 AM |
| 5 | Women don't like Nice Guys. Women like good men.Also no offense but I really don't like how everyone says this: This sort of interaction begs the question: If women are only attracted to assholes, then why aren't they swooning over Nice Guys? The "begs the question" misuse is minor, but it's also illogical here. Because what you (and everyone using this common pattern) next go into is demonstrating that indeed it's because "nice guys" (note the quotes) actually are assholes! So everything you put there in quotes should not have been begged li… | /r/seduction | 17/12/20 10:57 AM |
| 83 | Women don't like Nice Guys. Women like good men.How is being bored somehow worse than being uncomfortable? | /r/seduction | 17/12/20 10:38 AM |
| 1 | You don’t have to fuck every girlI agree, but at the same time, I doubt most girls follow this advice-why would the common, accepted "complaint" from women be "just because I have sex easily doesn't mean I'm not lonely?"-and so I can see how guys, for whom getting laid is difficult and is a major accomplishment, would be inclined to disregard this advice. Such is the state of things: women have generally disregarded the idea that they would be loyal and view sex as something more serious and less casual, going "(lady) balls to … | /r/seduction | 04/12/20 05:17 PM |
| 4 | Don't be a nice guyYeah people are mixing up being a "nice guy" and being a nice guy a lot here. It's really not that complicated: one has quotes around it and is new age term to refer to a concept where such a man has particular, unhealthy attitudes, and the other is exactly what it sounds like, a noun "guy" modified by the adjective "nice." | /r/seduction | 02/12/20 02:57 AM |
| 1 | Hot Take: This sub might be stopping you from getting girls.Well this really just dissolves or diverges into an argument about whether such a guy is "just being himself" or not though. Anyway that's where I see this headed, not having read their replies yet lol | /r/seduction | 30/11/20 07:02 PM |
| 6 | Attractive guys get stared at by women but also men?(Edit: my mistake, I thought you were saying the girls make that kind of dirty look. Yeah I clearly don't know what's going on there in my experiences.) Woah did you just imply you consider yourself attractive in a Reddit post? Haha. I think I might know what you mean regarding that look from women though. I've never associated it with attraction from them though; often I question if they have heard things about me from others who might know (of) me, and hold some sort of grudge, or reservation,… | /r/seduction | 30/11/20 06:14 AM |
| 1 | Sometimes, it’s just not worth pursuingYeah I just made a comment about "the implication" too. That show is often funny and well-designed comedically, though the messages behind the irony generally aren't charitable towards men. Dennis is in no way representative of most men, or even, say, 20% of men. | /r/seduction | 29/11/20 06:23 PM |
| 0 | Sometimes, it’s just not worth pursuingThen you're a simp, blue-pilled, fragile, beta, soy boy, cuck, white knight, black knight, (due to coffee being black) toxically masculine, disposable, nice guy, and probably even a closeted homosexual faggot, because homosexuals clearly like coffee. /s It clearly couldn't be that you're not a simp for deciding to do something you normally would want to do, instead of not doing that thing you'd normally want to do so that others will see you won't just do what you think they want you to do. Afte… | /r/seduction | 29/11/20 06:20 PM |
| 2 | Sometimes, it’s just not worth pursuingWhat are you even talking about? Coffee dates are beneficial for women in many ways, (eg it's a public place and relatively low-key, so they could leave without feeling pressure. And if you at least try to be a decent guy-which I do understand is difficult in today's world, I do have empathy/sympathy for men here-you should view this as a good thing. You shouldn't want women to be legitimately terrified due to "the implication.") but also very beneficial for men. They're relatively inexpensive c… | /r/seduction | 29/11/20 06:11 PM |
| 1 | Sometimes, it’s just not worth pursuingWhile I can understand what OP (and most other men using the term in long enough, relatively well-written posts; when women use it, they generally don't write like this or give context clues. They seem to avoid conceptual clarity, because it could reveal an ugly truth about what they think; women do tend to be more risk-averse, and so strategically it makes sense for them to say less and let their physical appearances make the bulk of the impression. Some, not all, but in my experience this is v… | /r/seduction | 29/11/20 06:07 PM |
| 5 | Sometimes, it’s just not worth pursuingYeah it sounds like it's "mean" to say especially that last part, but it's absolutely the truth. Anyway most of these women deserve this treatment, as they've dished it out to men their whole lives, and you know how karma works. They're essentially asking for it. Eg, for a simple example, though I don't date anymore, I don't think I'd have any reservations about associating a woman I'd date with lesbian activity. Women have "subtly" questioned my sexual orientation my whole life. I don't care if… | /r/seduction | 29/11/20 05:59 PM |
| 10 | Sometimes, it’s just not worth pursuingIt's a kind of humorous analogy, technically a metaphor I suppose. It's his (or so it would appear, from my perception of course) way of saying "there's no need to get so hung up on how others will judge you; they'll probably just view you as disposable anyway, so stop giving too many (mentall figurative; women could use the advice about literal fucks) fucks. Because they treat you like you don't matter, don't feel you have to treat them so humanely either." | /r/seduction | 29/11/20 05:55 PM |
| 2 | Sometimes, it’s just not worth pursuingHardly even just "sometimes" anymore. I actually just got done writing some long comments in r/askaconservative about these matters, so I won't get into this too much here. I probably would have laughed at the use of that word there, if this problem weren't so serious. Edit: I especially applaud you for that third-to-last block. It seems most men wouldn't do that. And I can understand why: they have a raw deal, and they try to take whatever scraps of pussy (joking there, really any attention at … | /r/seduction | 29/11/20 05:46 PM |
| 2 | There is no competitionYeah you're basically right. It shouldn't be this way, but it is. | /r/seduction | 28/11/20 07:18 PM |
| 3 | There is no competitionWell one thing you haven't discussed is how often you get compliments from women that appear interested in you. Obviously if it happens often, you won't value them as much. Meanwhile, a large number of men probably never experience this. | /r/seduction | 28/11/20 07:15 PM |
| 3 | There is no competitionSomething I noticed yesterday in a thread where a guy had "Elliot Rodgers syndrome:" even physically attractive men often believe they're unattractive, whereas with women, if we're being completely honest, they tend to be told they're physically attractive no matter what. In that thread, a lot of people actually directed disbelief at the poster, but expressed that disbelief in ways indicating anger towards OP. I think this is a very telling trend about how society treats the genders very differe… | /r/seduction | 28/11/20 07:11 PM |
| 0 | There is no competitionIt is sometimes (probably more than just "sometimes;" more like often) a competition though, and that can't be denied. I happen to be currently watching the timeless Patch Boomhauer wedding episode of King of the Hill. A fictional story, but one which is realistic, and likely based on true events. | /r/seduction | 28/11/20 07:08 PM |
| 3 | Is Having Lots of Sex a Meaningless, Shallow Goal?Something I've been realizing (probably slower than I should) is that girls today don't have similar scruples about dating/sexing men (or women) though. That should definitely be considered. | /r/seduction | 28/11/20 06:15 AM |
| 17 | A new perspective on approaching woman?Shouldn't really need to be said, but yes it's true. (I don't know why Redditors seem to like saying things like "it depends on the context" so much relatively lately, but it seems to be a trend. I say it too. But anyway, I think the person you replied to communicated this here in their post anyway.) | /r/seduction | 27/11/20 05:46 PM |
| 9 | A new perspective on approaching woman?Trying to emulate other guys also goes against "just be yourself" too. This kind of general pattern is common though in these discussions, unfortunately, and why I tend not to place much faith in dating advice. Anyway I think you've done well with this comment. One thing I can't stand about internet forums is how uncharitable people are to anyone commenting whom they've decided simply not to like. We could spend all day, all month, all year trying to spell out everything in a comment or post, bu… | /r/seduction | 27/11/20 05:40 PM |
| 1 | This post is for the “Nice guys” who can only seem to hear about the girl he likes complain about guysTrue, but at the same time, I think the way these conversations seem to try and shift all blame towards the man in these scenarios is wrong. Women shouldn't be using people (male or female) like emotional punching bags, or objects that just exist to vent towards, etc. That should be discouraged also. Obviously, if you're a guy reading this post and relate to it, well yes, the one thing you can control is whether you'll stay and listen. So choose wisely, accepting and living with the consequences… | /r/seduction | 27/11/20 01:02 AM |
| 3 | 3 signs you are her beta orbiter.Kind of disagree with labeling the man as being the problematic term though. Those three things are primarily about the girl's actions, not yours. You could have also given it the headline "3 signs she's a female player," or use one of those other terms out there for women who don't want to date but will try to get some dating benefits while leading a guy along. | /r/seduction | 24/11/20 12:02 AM |
| 1 | I noticed when I got busy in life, people/ attention became less important, but then they suddenly wanted more of my attention.This is why it's really annoying to see so many posts here say things like "if they're interested in you, they'll make time for you." They completely sidestep discussing what actually makes a person interested in the first place. (And what might make them not interested...) | /r/seduction | 23/11/20 08:49 PM |
| 1 | The best thing's in life are free.I too have watched The Wedding Singer lol | /r/seduction | 23/11/20 01:22 AM |
| 1 | Ghosting - why it happens and how to avoid itI always wonder why there are comments like yours which for whatever reason don't get any responses. Though at the same time, I just wrote one then deleted it. I suppose if I have a blindspot about human psychology, this is it. Well I think part of it is that each of your sentences is hedging in a way. I too wonder what such a reason would be; just wrote about that in a nearby comment. (E: If I had to guess, your current kind of state is such that you're trying to say something which avoids crit… | /r/seduction | 21/11/20 01:59 AM |
| 2 | Ghosting - why it happens and how to avoid itMost girls flake after dates to avoid “hurting guys feelings” pretty much the girls that ghost are never worth to being with. What I really don't understand is: do they really think that avoids hurting a guy's feelings? Or are they liars? That's the reason they give us, but I developed theory of mind when I was maybe 5 years old. Do girls not do the same? What's really going on there? Surely they know this is extremely insulting. Is the goal to maybe make the guy(s) they're interested just hate … | /r/seduction | 21/11/20 01:48 AM |
| 1 | Ghosting - why it happens and how to avoid itWhat if we don't give a fuck about your advice here though? /s | /r/seduction | 21/11/20 01:41 AM |
| 0 | Ghosting - why it happens and how to avoid itDawg I am a motherfucking ghost. Like Heisenberg would say, I am the one who ghosts. Seriously though, you speak the truth. (Well, I think you should care in the sense that you evaluate their actions and then consider whether they're worth investing in.) Edit: also, something I want to know: why is it that no one here seems to talk about oneitis much anymore? Maybe most of the flock got the message I suppose? | /r/seduction | 21/11/20 01:32 AM |
| 6 | Importance of giving space and having patienceYep, this is the truth here. It's easy to criticize guys as the initiators but rarely do women actually see things from their perspectives. (And that includes OP, given some of their comments here. Just saying you're bisexual doesn't just suddenly convince us you understand. Indeed gay dating for women is evidently very different than straight dating anyway.) | /r/seduction | 17/11/20 09:31 PM |
| 0 | What you seek from porn will be what you are ultimately robbed of.I got it, but it evidently wasn't according to the comments here. (Assuming they actually mean what they say, that is...) Anyway I don't take most of these people seriously. | /r/seduction | 17/11/20 04:57 AM |
| 8 | What you seek from porn will be what you are ultimately robbed of.Whataboutism. Respond to anything else I said. Edit: Also this simply isn't true, and many have debunked this claim in so many ways, and I'm not going to be the one to educate you if you're not going to argue in good faith. | /r/seduction | 17/11/20 04:54 AM |
| 2 | What you seek from porn will be what you are ultimately robbed of.Dude I wouldn't even bother with this thread, the people here are just being ridiculous. What happened to redditors-many accounts evidently from women-saying things like "people do enjoy being treated like objects, in certain contexts, but not in general, outside the bedroom." (Can't recall the exact popular phrase, but I doubt anyone's going to bring it up here.) But screw you for actually wanting to stick your penis inside a girl, you're an oppresive monster. Surely that's not going to fuck so… | /r/seduction | 17/11/20 04:52 AM |
| 7 | What you seek from porn will be what you are ultimately robbed of.People are massively misinterpreting what I believe OP is trying to say here. That if you spend all your time watching porn, then you're missing out on dating women and actually having sex with women who would enjoy it too. Well, duh. Nowadays people throw around the word "objectify" without even making it clear what they think "objectifying" means. (Edit: and I'm sure they do know they're being ridiculous and unreasonable here.) Many are intentionally being vague, and just trying to portray men… | /r/seduction | 17/11/20 04:45 AM |
| 10 | What you seek from porn will be what you are ultimately robbed of.This whole "porn makes you see women as objects" notion is just ridiculous though. Porn itself is about sex, a very small aspect of womanhood and what we perceive about women. And sex, between straight people, generally does involve a man doing physical objectifying, and a woman enjoying being physically objectified. The objectifying stops there though. (Though, I've heard it said that lesbians like to kind of get more psychologically/mentally objectifying, that's another matter) I'll just be bl… | /r/seduction | 17/11/20 04:38 AM |
| 2 | Just lost my virginity at 20, and learned a whole lot about myselfOr, rather, doesn't happen... But I'm right there with you, a few years younger. | /r/seduction | 16/11/20 08:42 PM |
| 2 | Just lost my virginity at 20, and learned a whole lot about myselfNot remotely stupid. Actually, if anyone's stupid, it's that guy suggesting an escort. | /r/seduction | 16/11/20 08:40 PM |
| 9 | You can't earn a person’s affection through performing unrequested actions and then getting upset when they don’t give you what you want.This is probably really well-known advice though, what with the popularity of the "nice guy" neologism. However: I like the emphasis that it indicates "low value" here, (that's a reason to avoid such behavior that deals more with emphasizing your own perception rather than the girl's judgments; that perspective could be beneficial/preferable for some guys) though honestly I think the way people discuss such "value" here can be pretty vague. | /r/seduction | 10/11/20 05:21 PM |
| 2 | As an average guy, when did you finally start getting girls you considered out of you leauge, and what did you do to achieve that?He probably isn't actively trying to be "average," but simply describing how, indeed, there are literally average people having a lot more success than him. No one really wants to think of himself as average, but the reality is, you probably are. It's nothing to be ashamed of either. Yes, wanting to not be average can help move you into above-average, but it seems like you're really reaching for things to criticize OP for when he said nothing to indicate he doesn't already know everything I've t… | /r/seduction | 08/11/20 10:31 PM |
| 1 | As an average guy, when did you finally start getting girls you considered out of you leauge, and what did you do to achieve that?You didn't sound shallow at all, you sounded honest. Honestly, not writing that edit (and doing similar behaviors) would probably help you with girls too. Girls are especially shallow at the ages you've described, and it's simply a fact. (Edit: Good news here though is that now you, as a guy, don't have to apologize for also being shallow. And overall, time is more on the guy's side too.) | /r/seduction | 08/11/20 10:25 PM |
| 1 | The worst advice ever. There is like a million reasons they might forget to call you/ be shy themselves or just simply think you’re “meh” at first. Grab life by the balls and you call them! Its all on you.That's not a bad idea, and that person evidently doesn't know what a lot of words like "intrusive" and "entitled" (in a nearby comment) actually mean. It's a good idea to confirm you have the right number whenever you exchange numbers for any reason too, so why not make such an inference while you do it? | /r/seduction | 21/10/20 08:35 PM |
| 1 | The worst advice ever. There is like a million reasons they might forget to call you/ be shy themselves or just simply think you’re “meh” at first. Grab life by the balls and you call them! Its all on you.This actually isn't bad advice. Seriously, what happened to this sub? | /r/seduction | 21/10/20 08:31 PM |
| 1 | The worst advice ever. There is like a million reasons they might forget to call you/ be shy themselves or just simply think you’re “meh” at first. Grab life by the balls and you call them! Its all on you.See I was hoping someone made a joke like this, scrolled down further, and I guess finally found it. It should be higher up. | /r/seduction | 21/10/20 08:27 PM |
| 3 | The worst advice ever. There is like a million reasons they might forget to call you/ be shy themselves or just simply think you’re “meh” at first. Grab life by the balls and you call them! Its all on you.No, being entitled would occur when you just expect women to give you their numbers, the opposite of what he's advising. (Or just expected women to contact you first, that's entitled too, and what he's criticizing with the other post) State what you actually think is "entitled" about his post, because it's not clear at all. | /r/seduction | 21/10/20 08:22 PM |
| 0 | The worst advice ever. There is like a million reasons they might forget to call you/ be shy themselves or just simply think you’re “meh” at first. Grab life by the balls and you call them! Its all on you.This too is wrongly downvoted. Don't know what's happened to this sub, maybe got brigaded? | /r/seduction | 21/10/20 08:20 PM |
| 2 | The worst advice ever. There is like a million reasons they might forget to call you/ be shy themselves or just simply think you’re “meh” at first. Grab life by the balls and you call them! Its all on you.Agreed, but why the downvotes? You're right. And it's obvious why the SJW culture does this. | /r/seduction | 21/10/20 08:18 PM |
| 1 | You can't make someone love you.Yeah I'm getting really tired of posts like this one trying to oversimplify it by basically making it into a binary situation (they either like you or they don't; if it doesn't work out they didn't really like you; etc) | /r/seduction | 15/09/20 10:10 AM |
| 3 | This belongs hereWomen's minds are lived almost completely free and boundless, we only focus by choice. What exactly is this supposed to mean? Because tons of women claim their lives are not "free hand boundless" at all, but instead controlled by "the patriarchy." | /r/seduction | 05/09/20 10:27 PM |
| 8 | This belongs hereYeah this is why men shouldn't take dating advice from women. | /r/seduction | 05/09/20 10:24 PM |
| 3 | Turned 30 as a virgin. Now 1 year later after a few lays and my first relationshipYou're wrong about life always rewarding effort though, in dating and nearly every facet of life. Does acting like life rewards effort make you look better to people? Athletes tell kids they can do anything because they know it's good PR. Obviously, that's why you did it for your post. Still doesn't make it true. You are absolutely spot-on about not taking advice (honestly I don't take much women state as truths too seriously; most if it's just done to try and make them look better. Many men do … | /r/seduction | 05/09/20 05:17 AM |
| 0 | MEN, ITS OK TO HAVE STANDARDSThe main problem with this thread I see is that people are trying to project what they see as being "high value" onto others. That will vary from person to person. But anyway it's a good post, and I think OP has made a lot of good comments too. | /r/seduction | 29/08/20 04:33 AM |
| 2 | MEN, ITS OK TO HAVE STANDARDSMost girls who get rejected really. They usually call guys gay for this, while still criticizing men who call women who snub them lesbians. | /r/seduction | 29/08/20 04:29 AM |
| -8 | I'm gentle and intimate during sex, which apparently is bad?Just like not all women have massive cavernous vaginas that need 18" penises. According to most on reddit, who evidently intentionally put forth nonsense about female anatomy, the average vagina depth is less than four inches, so yeah, according to them, it would be impossible for a woman to accommodate 18" That's why I hate things like r/badfemaleanatomy: women intentionallly spew misinformation here then blame men for being "wrong." This is very similar to the way women are the ones normalizin… | /r/seduction | 22/08/20 05:01 AM |
| -11 | I'm gentle and intimate during sex, which apparently is bad?I do know a lot of girls that prefer loving and passionate sex too, you just have to find them :) Ok, so from the rest of the comment it appears you're female. How would you know this, unless you're having sex with them, in which case is clear they're not as you describe? (Because also lesbian sex is extremely different than straight sex) | /r/seduction | 22/08/20 04:56 AM |
| 6 | I'm gentle and intimate during sex, which apparently is bad?No they absolutely are being damaged | /r/seduction | 22/08/20 04:53 AM |
| 203 | Don't Worry About What To Say To A Woman, Do This Instead...To help with this: I like to pretend I'm one of the main protagonists in certain movies or shows. Think of yourself as Tommy Shelby from Peaky Blinders, perhaps; you see through people's actions, and you carefully and unflinchingly consider your options. You're not someone to be trifled with, and it shows. | /r/seduction | 15/08/20 04:47 AM |
| -10 | Women don't friendzone you. You friendzone yourself.Then it is up to women to walk away when they're about to be raped too. That's basically what your post sounds like. Men aren't the only ones responsible for being friend-zoned, and that's simply a fact. Yes, men could always be more proactive about trying to avoid it, but they're still not solely responsible. | /r/seduction | 11/08/20 06:49 PM |
| 0 | What are the best ways to capture and enter into a mans heart?Wait, you have a husband? Why are you asking this question? | /r/seduction | 10/08/20 04:34 AM |
| 2 | What are the best ways to capture and enter into a mans heart?Just spray it wherever, you got this king! Edit: Also, how did I miss the username | /r/seduction | 10/08/20 04:31 AM |
| -1 | What are the best ways to capture and enter into a mans heart?Well-explained, but this is a rare time when it seems like the person you're explaining this too is truly guileless. Well, they did post that shit-eating grin emoji, so did they find the parent comment actually funny? We (both genders, probably women moreso today) used to keep certain information away from the opposite genders in the past, and it's strange to see this in action. Love is indeed a war, which explains why I have little interest in dating. If you tell them too much, they can use tha… | /r/seduction | 10/08/20 04:26 AM |
| -1 | What are the best ways to capture and enter into a mans heart?What, people who are pedantic but actually wrong? They're abundant, especially on reddit. Edit: eg, look at people who say "him and I" thinking it's correct and they'll sound smart. In the past, reddit was rife with grammar Nazis and pedants, and I think that's one main reason I lurked for so long | /r/seduction | 10/08/20 04:19 AM |
| 0 | What are the best ways to capture and enter into a mans heart?Actually, infer also means "to imply," though it's rarely used that way. I thought that was strange and probably made up when I first read it in a dictionary too | /r/seduction | 10/08/20 04:17 AM |
| 1 | If you plan to spend the next few years getting ripped or getting rich or reading books before you start approaching women, you don’t have a plan; you have an obstacle.I agree to an extent, as whenever you learn anything properly, you need to be doing rather than just reading. But the issue here with dating is that there are major risks which can follow you for large portions of your life, or even indefinitely. If you're not in a stable place career-wise, financially, or with regards to other possible goals, but you still decide to date around, there's a good chance you could wind up having a kid with someone you don't really envision spending the rest of your… | /r/seduction | 07/08/20 09:55 PM |
| 1 | If you plan to spend the next few years getting ripped or getting rich or reading books before you start approaching women, you don’t have a plan; you have an obstacle.Yeah, while there are surely some decent gay people out there, (I think anyway) I really think these kinds of situations are much more common than most want to believe. Edit: at this point, whenever I start having thoughts like "well, I don't want to come off as discriminatory or assume," I know I should keep my distance. | /r/seduction | 07/08/20 09:27 PM |
| 1 | For those who say to ask out 300 women...Agreed, I think just cold-approaching like that is a great lesson exactly for the reason you described. And even if you have the perspective to know that overall it's ok if you have some awkward situations-they're just one-time interactions that mean very little in the grand scheme of the universe-actually doing this, and realizing first-hand, is very beneficial. | /r/seduction | 30/07/20 05:16 PM |
| 1 | For those who say to ask out 300 women...Agreed, and this is why I get tired of hearing people say "keep trying, it's a numbers game" whenever any man vents about not getting dates. There's a related post I saw today, from this sub too I think, (edit: actually I think it's on r/dating maybe) related to this, where I went into more detail about my thoughts on this in a comment. I just wish people more were more honest about this and things in general; if you're not being totally forthright, you're not being caring either. That's the sam… | /r/seduction | 30/07/20 05:10 PM |
| 8 | Too many people are missing the pointAt the same time, whenever any man communicates being rejected, whether in an especially unique/distinctive , specific context or not, what's the most common response, from men and women alike? "It's a numbers game, keep at it." (edit: this is even true beyond dating, for things like finding employment. I think most people would like to know what specifically they can work on to make themselves more marketable; YMMV but for far too many of my past jobs, I've wondered and tried to ascertain why e… | /r/seduction | 30/07/20 03:42 PM |
| 3 | I wanted to talk to women, I ended talking to everyone and it freed me...Though beware and be ready to accept that when you start being more real with people, you will encounter more negativity from many people you thought were your friends-or just people in general- too. Still the pros outweigh the cons: reality is always better than a (supposedly) blissful illusion. | /r/seduction | 28/07/20 11:41 PM |
| 1 | Just had my biggest success with a girl yetIt's unfortunate it's this way, but I find it difficult to rationally argue against your take here. This is just what the dating market has become, and girls have made it this way. | /r/seduction | 20/07/20 04:45 AM |
| 2 | How to not be needyI'm with this in general and it was well-written, but asking for explanations, when they're not of the sort like "why don't you like me," is actually demonstrating high value. There's a reason crime bosses on tv say things like "I'm the one who gets to ask questions." It shows you're curious about the world as well. | /r/seduction | 14/07/20 11:02 PM |
| 4 | Does height matter?They literally don't know what factors attract them. Personally I don't believe that; I think they just lie/misdirect with what they tell men they're attracted to | /r/seduction | 11/07/20 09:55 PM |
| 0 | Do girls like "nice guys" or "bad boys"?I don't mean just physically attractive, but being an attractive person in general. When it was just about physical attraction, I thought you were at least expressing something rational. But now you're just making the semantics train go round. What IS "attractive" anyway? That was the whole damn point about the post. Are women more attracted to "badness" or "niceness?" | /r/seduction | 05/07/20 03:53 AM |
| 3 | Do girls like "nice guys" or "bad boys"?They didn't apply any double standard | /r/seduction | 05/07/20 03:46 AM |
| 0 | Do girls like "nice guys" or "bad boys"?sexuality is fluid Do you actually know what that means though? And what it implies in your situation? It implies you don't know what you want, as what you want will continually fluctuate (fluctuate and fluid have the same root) over time. You literally just admitted you don't know what you want. | /r/seduction | 05/07/20 03:36 AM |
| 1 | Do girls like "nice guys" or "bad boys"?Exactly, she and women in general don't know what they want and that's why we continually have these debates about whether we guys should be nice or bad. They inflate what confidence in a man should look like, then only fall for guys who are actively putting on a facade of confidence; they're the reason redpillers started talking about "framing." | /r/seduction | 05/07/20 03:33 AM |
| 1 | Do girls like "nice guys" or "bad boys"?Dude do you even know what the definition of a "nice guy" is? They talk to women, otherwise they wouldn't be angry at women for not giving them "nice points." | /r/seduction | 05/07/20 03:31 AM |
| 2 | Do girls like "nice guys" or "bad boys"?Exactly, it's girls who use this...well let's call it a paradigm in the first place. They have no apparent clue when they've met a truly confident man unless he literally treats her like trash. And then they say they want truly nice guys, and also make a hobby out of criticizing "nice guys," pretending it's not contradictory. They set these stupid notions up, and men who want to date women then have to play the game according to their rules. And so they struggle with insecurity related to whethe… | /r/seduction | 05/07/20 03:25 AM |
| 1 | Do girls like "nice guys" or "bad boys"?I strongly suggest the movie "The Mask" for any man reflecting on these things. Note how the hotter girl goes for him in the end, and the "nice" girl that claimed women would be happy to have him was just manipulating him. Movies that address this theme are pretty common, but they all have sightly different features. Fight Club is one example. Some might relate them to the notion of "integrating your shadow," but from your post, I'd say you're just splitting hairs about definitions, and you're n… | /r/seduction | 05/07/20 03:08 AM |
| 0 | "Nothing is more threatening and simultaneously attractive to a woman than a man who knows his value to women and the world."You have no understanding of what the ego actually is then. It's a term in psychology, not just a colloquial one | /r/seduction | 03/07/20 04:41 PM |
| 8 | Live with 2 attractive bartenders, here are my thoughtsPeople hate true honesty though, especially in the workplace. Frankly I don't find anything about OP's post helpful at all, and yes, it really is just an excuse for him to brag. I've been honest and confident my whole life and it hasn't done a damn thing for me. There's no actually constructive advice in anything written in this post or the comments. "Just be yourself" isn't really advice at all; we already are, and it's impossible to be anything else. At least PUAs give men some kind of explici… | /r/seduction | 30/06/20 01:53 PM |
| 1 | Does Anyone Have Experience With Inexperienced Women?He's not wrong, and yeah the downvotes pretty much attest to it | /r/seduction | 20/06/20 03:19 AM |
| 1 | Does Anyone Have Experience With Inexperienced Women?I'm not really sure they exist. Or either way we just wouldn't hear about it. | /r/seduction | 20/06/20 03:17 AM |
| 3 | Do incels actually exist?This is a tough and ultimately bad question to ask in the first place. See people will just want to believe incels are bad and wrong, so they'll make a literally unverifiable and unfalsifiable statement like "anyone can date if they put forth enough effort and work on themselves." There are plenty of other scenarios similar to this. Eg, many believe anyone who does psychedelic drugs and has a psychotic break absolutely has to have had a pre-existing, latent mental health issue, that way psychede… | /r/seduction | 19/06/20 02:31 AM |
| 1 | She’s coming over but also “sorta has a boyfriend”Amen | /r/seduction | 19/06/20 01:34 AM |
| 1 | She’s coming over but also “sorta has a boyfriend”Bro-code is only for bros, broh | /r/seduction | 19/06/20 01:31 AM |
| 3 | She’s coming over but also “sorta has a boyfriend”Yeah you actually changed my mind somewhat. She's the one who should be taking all of the liability. The problem is that this isn't how others will see it, because...well many others are just stupid, or have some hidden agenda and so forth. | /r/seduction | 19/06/20 01:29 AM |
| 14 | She’s coming over but also “sorta has a boyfriend”Seriously, I don't know why more guys don't realize this. It would help solve a lot of issues in society, though yes, the woman is who should be held accountable. (Many would tell you men have always had to shoulder these kinds of burdens associated with major moral issues, and though I don't think that's how it should be, maybe that's how it is) | /r/seduction | 19/06/20 01:26 AM |
| 1 | She’s coming over but also “sorta has a boyfriend”Dude you should ghost her for sure. | /r/seduction | 19/06/20 01:23 AM |
| 6 | Do you feel the concept of modern dating is working/fair?What is even the concept of dating nowadays. I bet people don't really know. The majority of guys really stumble into a relationship and stay there because they're too afraid of being alone. Yup that's the impression I get from it, for the most part. I don't think PUA will help most men here, but I don't think it will hurt their chances either, and it at least gives them something else to think about other than the absurdity and dehumanization of trying to date women. | /r/seduction | 18/06/20 03:19 AM |
| 1 | Do you feel the concept of modern dating is working/fair?It's absolutely not fair, and that's why I don't do it. Edit: after seeing your note at the end, I'll say that I actually feel pretty good about not dating. I don't have to waste money or deal with the largely negative emotional effects. I spend time dong things I enjoy and learning new things. | /r/seduction | 18/06/20 03:18 AM |
| 0 | Consider the possibility that the unrequited crush you are holding on to is a defense mechanism designed to keep you from having meaningful relationships with new people.I think this may be true to an extent, though you know whether or not you really have a true crush on someone. In my earlier years (up till early college, somewhat through high school even though I knew others knew I probably wasn't dating anyone) I often would internally tell myself something like "hey these people don't know you've never dated or have sex; act like you have a close SO now" just to help appease some of my anxiety about being a dateless virgin. I don't feel particularly bad abou… | /r/seduction | 16/06/20 05:04 PM |
| -2 | "Shes not yours but your turn" makes me not want to do anything with a womanWhat? How can anyone actually gage that objectively? That's actually really easy; you get surveys from many different people, not just the woman in question, rating people on some scale. It's not complicated at all. And this is something well-studied too; heck if you actually knew what an "incel" really is you should know that. Companies like tinder probably do the metrics. Anyway incels typically cite such information for their ideology | /r/seduction | 09/06/20 02:51 AM |
| 0 | "Shes not yours but your turn" makes me not want to do anything with a womanIf you really think all men want is sex, have you even looked through this subreddit? There's men all over making posts, just like OP's, where they say they're looking for something meaningful. I suppose I'm preaching to the "choir," but you surely know the narrative that all want men is sex isn't accurate. | /r/seduction | 09/06/20 02:48 AM |
| 4 | "Shes not yours but your turn" makes me not want to do anything with a womanLol how was he a homophobe? | /r/seduction | 09/06/20 02:45 AM |
| 13 | "Shes not yours but your turn" makes me not want to do anything with a womanYeah that's true. Though I don't know, I get what he's ultimately communicating, especially since he sounds relatively young. When I was in college and high school, it seemed every girl was just looking to screw around with guys with impunity because YOLO, basically. As if they were just trying to amass "experiences" rather than really dating. Though that breeds really, really terrible habits for such women as they grow older. | /r/seduction | 09/06/20 02:40 AM |
| 0 | Newbies Should Do Whatever it Takes to Get LaidThis is why I get really annoyed when women complain about how there are too many men who seem to just be interested in sex. Well that's because there are so many male virgins out there that you wouldn't have sex with if you knew, because women unilaterally decided not to like and date male virgins. These men know that in order to date they need to get the bare minimum of experience there, so sex naturally comes first, for practical reasons. They need to get laid first. And to "prove" they're no… | /r/seduction | 03/06/20 01:51 PM |
| 1 | IRL vs Tinder (and dating apps in general)They're also physically weaker and dating's more dangerous to them than it is to men. Except that doesn't support what you're saying at all, and actually goes against it, as then they shouldn't be trying to date as many men via OLD. | /r/seduction | 02/06/20 10:41 PM |
| 3 | I want to get fit to attract women but I also don't.Eh I don't buy the "women will know if you don't do everything perfectly" nonsense. Women aren't all-powerful, omniscient beings; that sounds like you projecting self-judgment onto them in an unhealthy way not unlike "putting the pussy on a pedestal." Look at Patrick Batemen in American Psycho, for instance; girls were still interested in him solely for his physique. Nevertheless, what you're saying obviously has merit to the extent that good self-esteem is better for you than poor self-esteem b… | /r/seduction | 31/05/20 07:22 PM |
| 1 | I want to get fit to attract women but I also don't.This is why one should always be self-motivated when it comes to working on themselves. You should, primarily at least, want to be healthier because it makes you feel better, regardless of whether you look better to others, attract more admiration, etc. Sure, most don't have their motivations aligned optimally (at any given time) either way, but with time and maturity they should get better. | /r/seduction | 31/05/20 07:20 PM |
| 1 | I don’t enjoy talking to girls.I hate to say it but this probably applies to me in dating too. I don't dislike women in general-a supervisor/trainer I have does a great job and is overall fun, though admittedly it's a new job-but when it comes to dating, I think I'm all tired out. And I haven't even tried dating in a long time, so that's saying something. | /r/seduction | 28/05/20 11:28 PM |
| 1 | How Do I Confidently Express My Sexuality As A Man?But the first two sentences contradict each other. Complimenting your male friends isn't "expressing your sexuality" to them. That's just a really poorly phrased opening I suppose, or perhaps a way to invite redditors to make lame gay "jokes." | /r/seduction | 27/05/20 04:01 AM |
| 1 | What's it like going after women?I understand, and wasn't trying to implicate or suggest anything about you either. I should have said that maybe taking this into more consideration might help you feel a bit better about it all. Still I too kind of regret not finding someone to date up to now; but that's just how it is, and trying to force something that doesn't seem right wouldn't be good either. | /r/seduction | 24/05/20 03:15 AM |
| 3 | What's it like going after women?I'm kind of with you there (late twenties and similarly no dating, kisses, or anything) but I don't find it depressing at all. Actually I was going to write a post (on unpopular opinion, as it evidently is unpopular) about how I think the whole narrative about "YOLO, go date/chase or sleep around when you're young" is extremely immoral. You should only date someone you really have genuine feelings for, not just get into a relationship or have sex because you think you should or think it's fun, t… | /r/seduction | 24/05/20 02:55 AM |
| 17 | There is a "blind leading the blind" belief in this sub that's hiding in plain sightIt depends on the context, but your reasoning is sound for many cases. For example, if you met a girl on tinder or something similar specifically to date, making your intentions clear, and while rejecting you she suggests "we can still be friends," further expecting you to do friend things with her, you've got no obligation to do so, and have every right if you happen to feel offended. That's similar to going to a McDonald's, meeting an acquaintance along the way, realizing you have no money and… | /r/seduction | 14/05/20 11:43 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone else noticed how a lot of popular music is about needy, low value mindsets and behavior?Yes, but music is just one area where the same propaganda abounds, and it's certainly very influential, especially for young people | /r/seduction | 13/05/20 10:54 PM |
| 2 | Has anyone else noticed how a lot of popular music is about needy, low value mindsets and behavior?You don't even spell the genus species right, so you're kind of working against yourself | /r/seduction | 13/05/20 10:53 PM |
| 0 | Has anyone else noticed how a lot of popular music is about needy, low value mindsets and behavior?Yeah there are a lot of bands whose music I like, but whose lyrics are pretty damn embarrassing. Take Tame Impala, with "the less I know the better," where the guy sings about basically letting himself sit on the back burner for a girl, even suggesting he enjoys it and potentially being a third wheel in the girl's relationship. And a lot of songs by twentyone pilots. Especially because I usually like the song to espouse values I support (and lyrics that are understandable or generally make sense… | /r/seduction | 13/05/20 10:51 PM |
| 1 | The best way to impress girls is to have better things to do than trying to impress girls. A dating coach in my city once told me he always tells his clients to have at least 3 things more important to them than girls. Now in isolation, it's a good time to figure out what those 3 things are for you.Yeah you're not wrong, or at the very least not totally wrong here. Definitely didn't warrant the downvotes, but maybe you've got a downvote brigade. (We'll see if my similar comment gets downvoted. Often downvotes just indicate you've said something truthful people don't want to believe, or otherwise wish others to disbelieve due to an agenda.) The second paragraph especially is spot-on. I've been called a "nerd" often in my life, and it's never helped me get a date, for example. | /r/seduction | 11/05/20 06:12 PM |
| 6 | The best way to impress girls is to have better things to do than trying to impress girls. A dating coach in my city once told me he always tells his clients to have at least 3 things more important to them than girls. Now in isolation, it's a good time to figure out what those 3 things are for you.Yeah exactly. What kind of personality or behavior you present, or, more accurately, which elements you don't present, are far more crucial to success for a man trying to date women. And note that I said "present" for a reason; I suspect in the history of all heterosexual dating experiences, the reason behind the plurality of rejections is that a man who truly isn't needy/desperate has been rejected for appearing desperate from the woman's perspective. There's so much casual lying a man needs to… | /r/seduction | 11/05/20 06:07 PM |
| 1 | The best way to impress girls is to have better things to do than trying to impress girls. A dating coach in my city once told me he always tells his clients to have at least 3 things more important to them than girls. Now in isolation, it's a good time to figure out what those 3 things are for you.It's definitely not the only piece of advice guys need here. Hell I wrote a comment improving their advice, essentially adding more advice, and what I say there is critical to the prospect of the advice in this post actually helping... | /r/seduction | 11/05/20 06:04 PM |
| 1 | The best way to impress girls is to have better things to do than trying to impress girls. A dating coach in my city once told me he always tells his clients to have at least 3 things more important to them than girls. Now in isolation, it's a good time to figure out what those 3 things are for you.Video Games Eating Food Sex Just kidding around, but using this to point out that, in terms of increasing your likelihood of attracting women, the specific nature of your hobby is absolutely a factor. | /r/seduction | 11/05/20 06:02 PM |
| 3 | If you think making money and having a high status career will get you women, you will get women who love you for these thingsEh, correlation and causation aren't easy to truly distinguish. Yes, even in science, more often than not. | /r/seduction | 11/05/20 04:12 PM |
| 1 | If you think making money and having a high status career will get you women, you will get women who love you for these thingsI think that's true to an extent, but only if you focus obsessively on this in dating; that will probably sabotage your experiences. But not being cognizant and vigilant of this clearly obvious trend is just foolish, and not in the ironic sense in which people are conditioned to describe themselves as "fools for love." The main mark of any intelligent and reasonable person is the ability to entertain ideas that may be true or false, and consider and weigh their risks comprehensively without lett… | /r/seduction | 11/05/20 04:11 PM |
| 2 | Why isn't there any advice for women to seduce men on this sub?Because generally only men initiate dating/sex, and that's what the word "seduction" is about | /r/seduction | 11/05/20 04:48 AM |
| 2 | 6 Rules To Get The DateI can see this post being valuable to people who might come to this sub for help though...which is the actual purpose of this sub. A lot of people really try too hard, and girls then see them as "desperate" (even if they're really not) and avoid them. That's just how dating is, especially on tinder and such. Reread it and consider it from that perspective. "Don't try to entertain her" should be read as "don't try so hard to get laughs or responses you like; go in with confidence, and come out wi… | /r/seduction | 06/05/20 07:12 PM |
| 1 | I am extremely good at picking up women, here's how I do itI don't know you well, but I've got a feeling your last sentence is the issue there. Most women don't want to be with guys who basically say "I'll put out effort, but oh well if I get nothing in return and my effort is wasted." That might make you look like a pushover. ,(And for a more detailed analysis, too much selflessness, while something women will claim they like, but do only in a way you won't like, is associated with too heavy of a superego; too heavy a superego is often associated, some… | /r/seduction | 05/05/20 09:27 PM |
| 85 | I am extremely good at picking up women, here's how I do itIt’s great that you can let them approach you but for a lot of guys - maybe the majority - this will never happen. You seem to be pretending there is some magic signal or air that you can send out that makes them approach you. There is for you, there isn’t for most of us. Yeah, I'm what people have called attractive (though I don't see it) and maybe once or twice a girl has approached me, and never through a cold approach. Their comment here just makes it sound like they're not being realistic, … | /r/seduction | 05/05/20 09:24 PM |
| 7 | I am extremely good at picking up women, here's how I do itAge is a thing | /r/seduction | 05/05/20 09:22 PM |
| 4 | PatheticAgreed, I actually downvoted that guy because it seemed like he was making a dogwhistle for people to shit on this sub and men in general. The fact that others look to attack this sub is misandry on its own. | /r/seduction | 04/05/20 05:42 AM |
| 0 | The best career advice that I learned is don’t ever attach your-self to a PERSON, a place, a company, an organization or a project. Only Attach your-self to your mission in life and your PURPOSE. That’s how you keep your power and keep your peace! Surround your self with people who LIKE YOU FOR YOUYes, very true. I'm rewatching the wire, and on season 3 where prez shoots a black cop (again); people are telling him it could be racial, and his father-in-law police major asks prez's black commenting officer lieutenant, Daniels, if Daniels will support prez if the incident turns racial. At first I questioned that Daniels doesn't say anything or "yes," as he knows prez isn't racist, but it actually makes sense Daniels doesn't give a statement there. (He also hates the guy asking him, as he's g… | /r/seduction | 03/05/20 12:00 AM |
| 0 | This sub is toxic and will lead to unhappiness later lifeThere's nothing even remotely condoning manipulating women from this sub. | /r/seduction | 29/04/20 05:09 PM |
| 2 | The insecurity shown when trying to hide a fault often comes off as being way less attractive than the actual fault itself.This may be applicable often, but something I've noticed over the years about women: when they say "I'm not mad about you doing x, it's how you did x," it is often that you did x, with the rest being pure pretense. There are even times when I've deliberately tested this, though I mostly just rely on natural action and observation. | /r/seduction | 28/04/20 06:35 PM |
| 2 | A Fix for conversations “drying up”I agree in general, but just bear in mind girls don't actually want guys to take charge; they want them to think they've taken charge. All of that should be obvious or given anyway, and given the nature of this sub, it's understandable not every post can fully explain everything. | /r/seduction | 27/04/20 07:23 PM |
| 1 | The Power Of Rejection - Getting Beautiful Women To NOT Take You For GrantedDisagree, you're still looking at it the wrong way, though they have a bad attitude. You replace her | /r/seduction | 23/04/20 11:45 PM |
| 1 | The Power Of Rejection - Getting Beautiful Women To NOT Take You For GrantedYou see all the adverse comments here? I see many comments from people in this sub saying they're women everyday Point of proof: look at arianadeathly's comment below here | /r/seduction | 23/04/20 11:42 PM |
| 1 | The Power Of Rejection - Getting Beautiful Women To NOT Take You For GrantedThis is an extremely good take. | /r/seduction | 23/04/20 11:40 PM |
| 2 | The Power Of Rejection - Getting Beautiful Women To NOT Take You For GrantedNo, this post merely says you shouldn't treat women specially, unless they actually deserve it. Low effort criticism there. Men need to hear and think about this, because our society is so gynocentric and falsely overentitles women constantly. The guys that need to hear this are isolated and brainwashed by the feminism which permeates our culture; many don't even understand why they're failing, and it's not their faults; for whatever reason, leftist propaganda seems effective. | /r/seduction | 22/04/20 10:23 AM |
| 1 | The Power Of Rejection - Getting Beautiful Women To NOT Take You For GrantedWho downvotes this? (Obviously women, which is why we have these problems in the first place. Let men have a space they can discuss these things; you don't see men hijacking your women-only threads, and when they do, you attack them.) You didn't say "all women" or just "women," like women would and do say for men. What you've said is objectively true, and is important for a man to recognize. Indeed, to be a man and not a boy, it's required. | /r/seduction | 22/04/20 10:19 AM |
| 1 | Male archetypesI don't think it's wise to place any real faith in these kinds of classifications, and also this is nothing new. Incidentally, you rarely hear about gammas, but I have heard people say the "g" stands for "gay;" who knows how definitive or accurate that is for many gay men, but I'm sure many do essentially choose to be gay | /r/seduction | 21/04/20 02:40 AM |
| 1 | What's with this double standard of hot girls wanting to be treated as normal people while acting like dating less attractive guys is below them?Yeah it's really hypocritical and I think they know it. I was about to reply to a comment yesterday on a similar sub where some girl was complaining that she thinks guys expect girls to look incredible but don't care if guys like themselves are ugly...well a large number of posts on these subs do have men focusing on physical attractiveness and hygeine. Though, if things like money, career, humor, and status take precedence for men, that's because women have written and signed that contract, and… | /r/seduction | 20/04/20 09:45 PM |
| 1 | It’s far better to ATTRACT a woman than to CHASE oneDebating the semantics is ultimately pointless though. I'm sure we've all known at least one or two guys who thought they were in a good relationship, but as an outsider, you can see how the girl is almost certainly using him while he thinks otherwise. | /r/seduction | 20/04/20 02:34 AM |
| 2 | RealisationTrust me, they know they're misinterpreting you; it's part of their game strategy. | /r/seduction | 20/04/20 02:19 AM |
| 2 | RealisationIt's good advice, but also pretty basic: essentially it's "don't put the pussy on the pedestal." Maybe I was like that once-I really can't recall-but I think most men find this difficult to really integrate into their behavior or mind. It's perhaps easy to say and difficult to do. But that's why practice is important, and why I think it's a great idea to just go out and say lame shit to strike out and get comfortable with it. Even though our modern PC world makes that seem riskier, they've also … | /r/seduction | 20/04/20 02:14 AM |
| 4 | stop wasting time on 'no girls'You don't even really have to explain what a "no girl" is, I could tell immediately. Sadly, it's normal in our society for girls to be like that. They're the ones who always act like they're the ultimate judgmental authority, and will criticize anybody for trying anything at all slightly not "cool," but will still criticize anyone "just because" | /r/seduction | 19/04/20 04:20 AM |
| 5 | Disqualifying womenYeah I'm not a fan of these tactics (and disqualifying, negging, and teasing are all essentially the same, though some differ in consciousness of the actor and severity) but if you actually have reason to think any of those things, and she keeps giving you reason to keep thinking them, you should just say something. | /r/seduction | 19/04/20 03:30 AM |
| 2 | I used to have guy friends who always disturbed girls that were with me. One day I made the hard decision to get rid of them, and put in the time to make new guy friends who didn't disturb girls. My results then went up. Changing friends is hard, but important to become good at this.I believe it, for sure. Most of my guy friends have all been fairly respectful of the guy code, and don't try to get with others' girlfriends, but admittedly, I don't date much at all, so I wouldn't know first-hand. I've been lucky there though. At any rate, it's important to make sure the people you call your friends are truly your friends, and acting as such. | /r/seduction | 15/04/20 09:24 PM |
| 0 | Reddit's system might be one of the reasons you still struggle with seduction.Agreed, but hadn't thought about this concept in connection to dating this way. For me, personally, seeing women complain and call all/most/many/etc (they usually don't use a qualifier at all, but leave it open-ended, but imply "all" by the context) men are just human shit rapists who only want sex, are abusive, send dick pics and act like jerks all the time, acting like straight white men are automatically "angry" and the actual devil, etc, is what turned me off from dating. But yes, this is a … | /r/seduction | 15/04/20 02:00 AM |
| 1 | BEING PRODUCTIVE IS BEING ATTRACTIVE. When I've been busy and had more important things than girls, I did a lot better with girls. When I had too much time and thinking too much about girls, I did worse. This may not apply to everyone, but I discovered for me my best results are when I'm productive.It's definitely true for men in general, as we're usually valued or judged for what we can do or provide, regardless of how much so-called progressives claim they wish to abandon traditional stereotypes. For women, it mostly isn't a factor, overall, for most men doing the assessing. | /r/seduction | 13/04/20 12:34 AM |
| 3 | How i rewired my brain without even knowing itI'm a bit confused about what you were really trying to communicate with that second-to-last block. Not ever thinking or acknowledging when bad things happen can be really bad for you too, and will make women think you're kind of soft or a pushover, then leave you. But yeah, you pretty much have to really, truly literally, not care to succeed in dating as a guy. (Though if you truly don't care, why date anyway?) Even then, that's necessary, not sufficient. | /r/seduction | 10/04/20 12:41 AM |
| 2 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.Well life is widely deemed to be circular, or cyclical, and for many men that's how this goes: guy was bitter about not having a girlfriend, and gradually decides fuck it, I'll have good times with guys friends, not caring about whether a girl comes along; then a girl comes along and they gradually invest more in her, leading them to be less fun and friendly with their friends, eventually bringing that guy to a state where everything's about dating her, inevitably leading to relationship problem… | /r/seduction | 07/04/20 01:10 AM |
| 2 | How Changing Your Attitude Can Increase Your Attraction With WomenEye contact is a strange thing though. Had a recent interview where they asked me to keep eye contact so they'd know I wasn't cheating (I should have just moved the camera back, don't know what I was thinking) and thereafter it seemed I was applying too much eye contact because they'd then look down or away after a bit. Maybe it's just me personally, but I think the more I tend to think about the "little" things like that the more I mess them up. | /r/seduction | 28/03/20 12:00 AM |
| 1 | Told a girl no todayGood for you man, your priorities are yours and should be prioritized. | /r/seduction | 26/03/20 08:28 PM |
| 2 | You guys need to stop putting women and sex above your values, self respect and goals.I think you're projecting a bit, or otherwise assuming he's projecting. Many guys do in fact look just for sex, just as many girls do; the latter is more socially normalized of course, which is sexist. Either way, when I see a post like this, I know it's not right to assume the speaker has to say "sex and/or dating" every time they mention one; that's just pedantic or otherwise intentional nitpicking | /r/seduction | 24/03/20 09:49 PM |
| 7 | You guys need to stop putting women and sex above your values, self respect and goals.I mean I agree with some of the things you've said, but you're kind of going off in different directions. Eg, if women seriously don't want men that bow down to feminism or whatever, why does that seem to work, in terms of them getting laid or dating, for many men? Why would they become "white knights" in the first place if it didn't benefit them somehow? Though I do think the answer lies in a lot of feminists' hypocrisies anyway. While many men do "go along to get along," ultimately to their ow… | /r/seduction | 24/03/20 09:22 PM |
| 5 | 3 realizations I had. Not every girl will like you. A person doesn't need a lot of friends. Meeting girls.I think "friend" is being used in different contexts here though, and that this is responsible for the confusion here. Networking itself is generally required for both your career and dating. | /r/seduction | 23/03/20 03:13 PM |
| 3 | 3 realizations I had. Not every girl will like you. A person doesn't need a lot of friends. Meeting girls.Yeah but I tend to think of it as the hobby finding you; if it's not what you really want to do and it's something you're doing just to attract girls, it's probably not a good hobby for you. I was a math major and there were very few girls in my classes, but I didn't switch majors or stop caring about math just because I wanted to meet girls. | /r/seduction | 23/03/20 03:11 PM |
| -3 | Here is the ONLY Thing You Can Do To Get Better Results With GirlsAgreed but I really wish people would stop calling them "dude:" even if they are male, they evidently don't know what it's like to be a guy trying to date a good woman. It's just so obvious their post is agenda-driven, and literally unbelievable that other guys don't seem to see it. And I get that you might just be using it in a less literal, colloquial sense, but it still sends the wrong message. | /r/seduction | 18/03/20 07:52 PM |
| -2 | Here is the ONLY Thing You Can Do To Get Better Results With GirlsOP's probably not even a dude. Or has otherwise been instructed by a girl to say this. Or is possibly gay, who knows, but his post is clearly agenda-driven. | /r/seduction | 18/03/20 07:50 PM |
| 4 | Girls choose you, you don't chose them. As a man, focus on being a better person, and stop chasing womenFunny how I saw a post just like this, maybe on this same sub, with negative karma just yesterday. Btw, I don't think this saying makes women look very good, no matter how you look at it. Women were also supposed to be (and were) the gatekeepers of virtue, but that's long past. Men still have a monopoly, more or less, on most other positive moral values. Naturally that means men are the more responsible agents in the exchange, and suggests there's something wrong with this model's valuation. Goo… | /r/seduction | 17/03/20 01:35 PM |
| 1 | Girls choose you, you don't chose them. As a man, focus on being a better person, and stop chasing womenThis is really oversimplified. Ironically, I see a lot of people somewhat similar to you criticize Evo psych, but either way, both people ultimately "choose" each other if they're in a consentual relationship. So in light of this, it sounds like you recognize how much control women have over yours/men's lifves but you're too weak or lazy to do anything about it. No offense but that's how these posts invariably read, assuming they're not propaganda anyway. | /r/seduction | 17/03/20 01:34 PM |
| -2 | Do men normally hit their peak later than women?It's typically the opposite, biologically speaking anyway. This is actually well-established, and a simple google search would have spared you this post. It's age 25 for guys and 22 for women's attractiveness, (FYI that's probably why whoever wrote Taylor Swift's songs used that number) 30 for their sex drive. 30 is also when birth defects for the woman's children really start becoming a risk, which explains the increased sex drive. | /r/seduction | 14/03/20 03:32 PM |
| 2 | From a guy who knows what he's talking about: Tinder should stop being given as advice on how to get girls.Yeah I'm really tired of people saying that about tinder. There's a very strong double standard now where if you're a guy that uses tinder, you're automatically a fuckboy, but if you're a girl, you get to be whatever you claim to be, and if you repeatedly complain to everyone that you can't find a long-term or serious relationship on tinder, people just automatically have to pay their respects. It's just more systemic, socially accepted sexism. There are actually plenty of girls on tinder that a… | /r/seduction | 06/03/20 10:42 PM |
| -1 | Watch "Love is Blind" on Netflix to better understand relationships and what NOT to do as a guy.Also "The last man on Earth" (the comedy with Kristen schaal and will forte) is probably similar. So much cringe in that show but it's like a trainwreck. | /r/seduction | 05/03/20 07:58 PM |
| 1 | The hard, cold truth of cold approaching.we are only afraid of the words we never said. Maybe that's your opinion but there's a lot else to be afraid about. | /r/seduction | 04/03/20 01:56 AM |
| 1 | Meryl Streep on toxic masculinityWho gets to set these definitions exactly? Even if there were an impartial board to regulate these terms, it's human nature to use them with certain subtextual elements. You might say "you're just waxing philosophical." (old classic problem: how do you really define a sheep, for example? Generally you know one when you see it, sure, but how could you formally define such a concept? Even with modern genetics there's no clear resolution.) But whether you call it philosophy or not, there is a very … | /r/MensRights | 23/06/19 05:00 AM |
| 1 | Meryl Streep on toxic masculinityYou've said some very interesting things here, echoing many things I've said/thought here before. I've never wanted to brainstorm with someone from Reddit this much. Don't let the downvotes discourage you. | /r/MensRights | 23/06/19 04:35 AM |
| 1 | Meryl Streep on toxic masculinityYou're absolutely right. See when people like myself and others attack TM, we're (generally speaking; I don't speak for everyone) attacking the way certain political groups use the term to attack men and advance an agenda. We're not denying that the term has a real meaning. Feminists intentionally sweep toxic feminity under the rug. And of course, as OP started hinting, women nowadays, seemingly "empowered" by these feminist notions, now act belligerently and aggressively-traits actually associa… | /r/MensRights | 23/06/19 04:32 AM |
| 1 | Meryl Streep on toxic masculinityMost woman won't, sure. Too many are brainwashed by the left (and some on the left can be reasonable regardless, at least sometimes...) But I try to have faith man; still relying on anyone else to be morally upright nowadays is folly. Because the message you're sending is still dividing us into groups/tribes, which is exactly what the left wants with its identity politics. Obviously not a coincidence. It's a hard fight for sure, and sad to see the parent commenter have negative karma for such a … | /r/MensRights | 23/06/19 04:26 AM |
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