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| 1 | What qualifications does a man have to meet to be a "high value man"?Specifically when talking about the dating/mating market any man who has the ability to get a lot of women, especially hot women, to sleep with and/or reproduce with is by default a high value man. A broke bum with questionable character but exceptional physical attractiveness is a high value man. A geriatric multibillionaire is also a high value man. A hot multibillionaire with impeccable character is also a high value man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/24 10:27 PM |
| 1 | Can the “Men peak at 35” delusion finally endIt's not that men peak later. Most don't. It's that "some" men have the potential to peak later, while no woman ever peaks later. It quite simply has to do with the fact that men on average have a larger fertility window and increase in status/money correlates with higher desirability in the longterm dating market, also with the fact that men are far more willing to trade status/money for beauty compared to women when looking for longterm relationships/marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/24 10:19 PM |
| 3 | It's unreasonable to assume that the average man will step in to help a woman in danger.Tl;dr: Men are not noble creatures that will put their lives on the line to play hero and save women. And it is completely unreasonable to expect women to pretend that this isn't the reality they live in. Facts. The vast majority of people, men or women, won't risk their life to protect some random stranger. They might call the police and an ambulance, but that's as far as they are going to go. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/24 10:11 PM |
| 1 | How many People would cheat if the PERFECT Man or Women would try to get with them, i really want to figure out this dilema, and how brutal the reality is.90% of people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 06:40 PM |
| 0 | Why is it unreasonable for a woman to want a man who earns the same salary as her or more?Not unreasonable. She is entitled to her preferences. It just limits her options. That's about it. A woman should also take into account: a)her competition, and b)what men prioritize in general. For example, a woman who makes 500k/year might want a guy who makes 500k/year or more, but most likely so does a woman who makes 100k/year or 50k/year or even 0k/year. And if one of those women is significantly hotter, it's a done deal. A man, who makes good money and has enough money to live comfortably… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/24 07:11 PM |
| 3 | Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevantChivalry used to give the man a competitive advantage. Now it doesn't. And in some cases it is actually detrimental. So obviously, Chivalry is dead and noone cares about being chivalrous. People aren't going to put extra effort if it doesn't improve their chances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/24 06:59 PM |
| 1 | We often talk here about how successful, high-performing women want educated and successful men, but do most educated and successful men want ambitious women?Men date across and down socioeconomic status hierarchies, so obviously they care less about a woman's success/money/status. Men "inherently" have betabuxxing tendencies. They'll leverage their money/status in order to get a hotter women compared to what they could get without leveraging those. I am not saying being a betabuxxer is ideal, I am just describing the behavior. For someone who makes average wage, obviously if he wants to start a family, he'll need someone who works and makes some mon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/24 12:53 PM |
| 0 | RPers who refuse to simply Go Their Own Way, why?Redpillers want to fuck and reproduce, that's the difference here. Plain and simple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 03:23 PM |
| 0 | Is this a relevant side effect of traditional blueprint of dating?It's an illusion of agency though. It doesn't matter if you get zero results with the women they want. That being said, with a large enough sample size over a long period of time, the one who approaches will have better odds statistically, maybe not much better odds, but a reasonable difference. It's basically a number's game. But this advantage is not free and comes with a cost. You have to grow balls, develop better social skills, grow thick skin, handle rejection over and over again, risk pub… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/24 08:42 PM |
| 7 | Is this a relevant side effect of traditional blueprint of dating?A woman can grow some balls, approach and hit on the guy she wants. Noone is stopping her. And just because a man can go and hit on the girl of his dreams, that doesn't mean she'll reciprocate. The woman always has the final say after all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/24 11:43 AM |
| 2 | What do people who date/marry out of their league do?In most relationships where there is a significant difference in physical attractiveness, the man is the less attractive one and he's also the one who has the more money. Quite simply he leverages his financial advantage to end up with a hotter poorer woman. In other cases it's quite simply luck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/24 10:51 AM |
| 1 | Deconstructing Dating: The Advantage of MenNot sure why you classify this as the "male advantage". Women can do all of the 5 things you mentioned as well. So where exactly is the advantage here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/24 10:51 AM |
| 13 | Would you rather go on a date with Audrey Hepburn at 64 years old or a ghetto 21 year old ?I'll take the ghetto chick as long as I find her attractive of course. 64 year old Audrey? Hard pass. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/24 10:45 AM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Polygamy will never work in the West. Polygamy only works in Muslim countries, because the religion is still strong, the values are still traditional and the laws are built around it. The promiscuity, infidelity and divorce rates are also much lower, which makes marriage more sustainable. In the West, you'll never see a man marrying multiple wives even if it becomes legal. It's a terrible financial decision that comes with high risk. You know what's worse than one divorce? Three divorces! You kn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 09:00 PM |
| 2 | The idea that men are "low effort" is literally projection from female-dating communities.Men who rank high in the superficial traits are the ones who put the least amount of effort. Which is obvious and basic common sense. The guy has plenty of other women waiting in line, some more attractive, so any woman to him is replaceable. He doesn't put extra effort because surprise surprise... he doen't need to. Do you think I'd bother cooking my own food if I was a billionaire and had a private chef to go grocery shopping, come to my house and cook whatever I wanted? Obviously not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 03:08 PM |
| 5 | Men who claim that "we men are so horny and would fck anything with a pulse" are horrible and feed misandrist mythsThat statement is half true half wrong. Statistically, men will fuck women they wouldn't even bother dating just based on physical attractiveness alone. That doesn't mean most men would fuck 90 year old grannies given the chance. It just means that men would fuck a much less attractive women than they could get otherwise, and only if it takes little to effort and investment on their part. For example a guy who is a 9 wouldn't date a 6, but if he was single and she made things very easy for him, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 02:59 PM |
| 2 | Article: The Case For Marrying An Older ManMarrying an older man means that she is the one who is supported (less work), she gets help, she gets to do all the things she wants to do early. Older men have had all their flaws, kinks and problems unloaded on other women when they were younger, so that by the time you get them, you get all the good parts. Somewhat true, but you're also most likely getting a less physically attractive guy(since noone gets hotter with age), so it's not that they are getting all the good parts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 11:16 AM |
| 1 | When it comes to most relationships today, who do you think is more likely to make the first move?Online dating apps and approaching shouldn't be in the same sentence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 09:07 PM |
| 4 | The only reason why men and women aren't understanding each other is cause both of them are in different phases in datingMen and women are operating on different timetables. That's the reality of the situation currently. Most men start having success with women when most women are done with fooling around and are looking for husband and kids. It has to do with milestones. And of course there is conflict of interest when that happens. You can't expect someone to replay stage 1 after they've already finished it and are now on stage 2, and you can't expect someone to jump straight to stage 2 when they haven't played … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 09:55 AM |
| 82 | Women on this sub apply the just world fallacy far too often when it comes to sexWomen want men who are desirable. Ideally men who are desirable but also have good character and are willing to invest in them. But their first priority is to get a man who is desirable, that's the most important bit. And a lot of times those men end up having questionable character and aren't willing to commit and invest in said woman. Just being a good man who is willing to commit to them is worthless to them if you are not desirable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 09:15 AM |
| – | Which of these men is more appealing to a woman?Obviously the first one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/24 05:11 PM |
| 1 | What You Do To Get Into Top Part of 80/20I mean that was my whole point. 20% doesn't mean much. Also, getting a 5 is not really hard. Average looking guy with average body, average social skills and a 50k/year job will eventually end up with a 5 in most cases. It might happen early or later after 30 in true betabuxxing fashion, but it's kinda inevitable. The 10s will end up with 10s, the 9s will end up with 9s and so on and so forth. So ultimately if he waits, he'll eventually get a 5 to bang or reproduce with, at least in the majority… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/24 12:12 AM |
| 1 | What You Do To Get Into Top Part of 80/20It's not hard to be in the top 20%, that's 1 out of 5 men you see on the street. Does he really look impressive? Not really. You'll have to be in the top 5% if you want to start having good options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/24 11:56 PM |
| 6 | ''You're a Creep Because The Brain Doesn't Develop Until 25'' Is A MythWhat happens between two consenting adults is noone else's business. It's that simple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/24 03:39 PM |
| 1 | The idea of men wanting traditional pure wives is false in realityAt least not like the easy pretty girl See here is the issue. You don't compare a pretty trad pure wife to a pretty party girl. You most likely in your mind compare a plain looking or below average trad pure wife to a pretty party girl. It's not a secret that men overwhelmingly prioritize youth and beauty. Personality, character and values matter, but there is no amount of them that can make a 5 outcompete a 8. Maybe she can outcompete a 6, but that's it. Same applies to men obviously. If the gu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/24 02:48 PM |
| 1 | MEN: Would you rather a woman with feminine presentation but masculine temperament, or masculine presentation but feminine temperament. Vice versa for women?If she's not attractive visually, the ship has sunk before it left the harbor. So by default I choose Woman A, at least the ship in that case managed to leave the harbor, even if it is probably going to sink at some point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/24 02:40 PM |
| 1 | Red Pill Men Make Blue Pill Arguments When Their Assumptions Are QuestionedMost men get the most attention in their 30s, that's just a fact, backed by many studies, especially dating app ones. Peak is around mid to late 30s. That being said, there is a big caveat here. Most of that attention comes from women their own age, not much younger ones. Also, it depends on the individual. For example, the average guy might have had 1 viable option at 25 and at 35 he now has 3 viable options. So in a sense, he peaked at 35. Obviously that doesn't mean every man will have one hu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/24 07:48 AM |
| 1 | OK, so older men are gross and younger women only want their money... why is it assumed that women their age are different, considering how out of the game many of these men were when they didn't have money?I mean sure. But that just reinforces my point. It's not like these men get more desirable with age, their wallet and social standing gets more desirable with age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/24 06:15 AM |
| 40 | OK, so older men are gross and younger women only want their money... why is it assumed that women their age are different, considering how out of the game many of these men were when they didn't have money?An average looking 20 year old man, assuming he hasn't gone through a significant physical transformation, will end up as an average looking 30 year old man, who will then become an average looking 40 year old man and so on and so forth. I heavily doubt any lady whether 20 or 30 or 40 will get wet for him based on his looks. Ultimately, assuming he has some money and status, those will be the things that will attract the woman to him. So since it's already been established his relationships will… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/24 06:11 PM |
| 2 | Would men do the same in the current dating market?Would men do the same? Sure. But what you're missing here is that men and women are on average quite different both biologically and psychologically. Men are on average more sex focused than relationship focused compared to women. That's why you pretty much never see a man whining about how he was used for sex by some hottie who then ghosted him. He fcked a hot woman, he got what he wanted. Going around sleeping with very attractive women, perhaps also having a couple of kids out of wedlock to p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/24 01:22 AM |
| 1 | Men Shouldn't commit anything significant to women or minimize commitment to womenThat's why men's investment is women is steadily decreasing. Fewer men are interested in going the extra mile and putting more effort, time and money in pursuing and courting women. And more men are just looking to deceive and sell them a dream just to ejaculate and then evacuate, as fast as possible. Same applies to "the settling down stage" later in life. That's why marriage rates are going down, while cohabitation(without marriage) and having kids out of wedlock is going up. If she decides to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/24 08:47 AM |
| 3 | Do men really have a problem with financially providing for a woman who isn't attracted to him?Contrary to popular redpill belief, most men will be happy to betabuxx for a woman significantly hotter than themselves as long as they have prenup and asset protections in place of course. Just take a look at all the mediocre looking celebs and the women they date/marry or the lawyers and the doctors with their trophy wives. One could also make the argument that betabuxxing is actually worth it in this case. Generally men will go the extra mile and put significantly more effort if they believe … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/24 12:33 PM |
| 7 | Women will always have options, men need to create opportunities to have options.Women have a far easier time getting casual sex and short term relationships. If that is the metric of success, then yeah women will always have more options. But most people are dating for the ultimate purpose of longterm commitment and having kids. No fertility means a very large number of the population won't even consider you. Men have by default an inherent advantage there because they have a larger fertility window. Also, accumulation of status/wealth can make a man a singificantly more de… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/24 09:26 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Forcing people who don't want children/marriage to do it anyways doesn't always make a better societyNoone forces anyone to marry and/or have kids. But if everyone alive today chooses not to reproduce, the human species is done within the next 100 years. Everything we've built, all the effort are ancestors over hundreds of thousands of years put, all our potential, will be reduced to nothing. Life on earth will be the next thing to die. It's inevitable. Projections say within 1-1.5 billion years, Earth will become a scorched rock and life will be gone, then it will get swallowed by the sun afte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/24 08:57 PM |
| 1 | Prostitution won’t work (change my mind)Prostitution is legal in most of Europe already, so it's clearly not the golden solution, since Europe has the same issues with dating. Most men who visit prostitutes are middle aged men and senior citizens, and a lot of them are married. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/24 08:36 PM |
| 1 | Men of this sub, do you believe that most men have practically no standards?Men have pretty high standards but only when it comes to long term relationships and marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/24 09:48 PM |
| 2 | In the Redpill, the general idea is that women want the "alpha" guy or the best of the best, both financially and biologically. It's also pretty known that men are not born equal.Well there is always someone better, no news here. A guy can be tall, handsome, fit, well endowed, charismatic, rich, high status, but even then, there will be another guy who is even taller, more handsome, fitter, more well endowed, more charismatic, richer and even higher status. You simply can't win with this logic. And it also goes both ways. Women can't really win either. There is always a younger hotter woman around. Even a fugly looking 60 year old senior citizen who makes average wage ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/24 08:28 PM |
| 1 | Are Situationships for the most part, a result of women not being able to secure men they wish to date?True in most cases, but not in all cases. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/24 08:09 PM |
| 12 | In order of preference, how would you rate these 3 things in a partner? (confidence, kindness, intelligence)Kindness>intelligence>confidence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/24 07:44 PM |
| 5 | David Buss and flaws in the Dual Mating Strategy hypothesisI am also in favor of the mate switching strategy. AF/BB has little merit nowadays from a biological point where reproduction equals success. Most women who choose to procreate with an Alpha will have trouble finding investment later from a Beyta when they are already saddled with Alpha kids, since most men don't want to waste time and resources and shoulder extra stress and responsibility for someone else's kids. Most women who end up choosing the Beyta, actually end up procreating with the Bey… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/24 07:31 PM |
| 1 | Why do red pillers completely leave out young women's preference when discussing "the wall"The concept of the Wall doesn't fall apart. Women's desirability generally can go only down with age. Men's can go either down or up, up to a certain extent of course, largely due to two factors: a)larger fertility window, and b)increase in status/money/experience that comes with age. The whole concept is based around the fact that the gradual loss of physical attractiveness, coupled with the smaller fertility window, is more detrimental to women than men when it comes to long term relationships… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 06:03 PM |
| 1 | Do men not care about having female friends?I don't think men are intentionally avoiding making female friends. It's just much easier to make and maintain male friends. So most men will end up with having more male friends than female friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/24 04:56 AM |
| 7 | Confidence is a psychological regulator, not a mindset people can toggle on at will.Confidence comes from repeated past success. No success, no confidence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/24 04:48 AM |
| 3 | Does the concept of "LMS" - Looks/Money/Status need to be abolished and thought over?Sure, but that other side was never an option for the guy in this universe. You can either look at the glass as half full or half empty. Ultimately, the billionaire in question most likely wouldn't care. He can recycle hot women till he dies. Them not being into him or having a higher chance of leaving him or cheating on him is irrelevant. He is operating from a place of abundance. Buying a laptop that will break down in 3 months doesn't matter much if you can afford 10000 laptops and can keep d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/24 06:44 PM |
| 3 | Value OfferingsMen prioritize beauty, followed by loyalty. A virgin wife, or low body count wife, has higher chances of staying faithful to him. Do virgin wives cheat? Sure, it's possible, but less probable compared to a woman who has slept with let's say 50 men. It has nothing to do with control or grooming or whatever. The man will invest large portions of his resources and time into the marriage, and of course he doesn't want all of that to go to waste. Imagine 10 or 20 or whatever years of investment going… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/24 06:36 PM |
| 2 | Men are hypogamous, and love opportunistically.The red pill started including stuff like looks, dominance/assertiveness and a bunch of other crap. The original meaning has been diluted. Bottom line is that when it comes to dating/mating, the vast majority of people will have to compromise on some traits they don't value as much in order to get other traits they value more. It's all about priorities. And dating up in something most likely means you're dating down in something else. Unless both people get what they prioritize, a relationship w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/24 05:36 PM |
| 2 | Does the concept of "LMS" - Looks/Money/Status need to be abolished and thought over?Money and status doesn't make a man attractive. Attractiveness is mostly based on looks and to a lesser extent personality. But money and status, if they are high enough, will make a man very sexually and reproductively successful even if he is a quasimodo. Here is a quick example. Can a 60 year old billionaire, who looks like shit, get hot pussy to fuck by using his money? Yes. Can he get a hot trophy wife to impregnate and have kids? Also, yes. Saying money is irrelevant is stupid, because if … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/24 05:05 PM |
| -1 | Men are hypogamous, and love opportunistically.You're overthinking it. Hypergamy is the tendency of women to marry/date across and up socioeconomic status hierachies(resources/money and social standing basically). That's the dictionary definition. The redpill gurus like Rollo have changed the original meaning and included a bunch of other stuff. Men marry/date across and down socioeconomic hierarchies, because ultimately it benefits them, so they are indeed hypogamous. Men overwhelmingly prioritize youth and beauty. By dating down in socioec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/24 04:58 PM |
| 4 | 50/50 relationship are one sided benefiting only menYou make two false assumptions here: a)you assume that men sexually and romantically desire a model and a plain looking woman equally the same, and b)that men aren't picky when it comes to physical attractiveness when they have to invest time and resources. Men will fuck almost anything IF it requires little to no effort on their part. But make no mistake here, for relationships/marriage they'll gravitate towards the hottest woman they can get and will usually leverage their status/money to get … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/24 02:25 AM |
| 1 | In which situations does the dating dynamic change in favour of men ?If you want someone who is a better physical specimen than yourself, you'll have to put more effort compared to the other person and provide them with extra incentives. Initiative, financial benefits, social opportunities, higher investment emotional or otherwise, excitement etc. This applies to both men and women. Generally the less physically attractive partner will have to put more effort and investment in the relationship than the more physically attractive partner. That's the price of admis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/24 06:21 PM |
| 1 | Some redpill beliefs are more delusional than the average person.Most men do not age like wine. Dad bods are not attractive. If anything, an average in her 30s still has a lot more options than the average men in their 30s. If you are millionaire and good looking in your 30s, its a different story but that is a small subset. The average woman doesn't have more options than the average guy when it comes to long term relationships/marriage. She only has more options when it comes to short term relationships and casual sex. Big difference there. By that same log… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/24 05:39 PM |
| 2 | I’m a Single Mom Who Is Ready To Give Up On Men Because They All Want SexAn 8 is probably top 2-3% of physical attractiveness based on quick head math. Odds are heavily against her. The reality is that she is most likely a 5. So she's well into the negatives on your scale lmao. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 09/03/24 07:25 PM |
| 5 | I can’t find many men that are looking for more than just sex either | WhereAreAllTheGoodMenVery astute observations. The difference between men and women is that men know that in order to shoot out of their league(physically), they'll have to compensate in other ways. Providing the woman financial benefits, social opportunities, more emotional investment in the relationship, excitement etc. Women are oblivious to this simple fact. Not only they want a guy of better genetic quality than themselves, they also expect him to give them the "royal princess treatment". Unfortunately it doesn… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 09/03/24 07:11 PM |
| 3 | This literally made me cryThey simply can't understand that men don't want to spend a second of their time or a penny of their salary on some other man's kids. And that they certainly also don't want to shoulder extra stress and responsibility for another man's kids. Because ultimately they are not their own kids. But I guess common sense eludes these women. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 09/03/24 06:54 PM |
| 2 | This literally made me cryPost wall, run through, saddled with another man's 3 kids, most likely not even remotely as hot and smart as she thinks she is.... and she is surprised her dating pool is tiny. You can't make this shit up. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 09/03/24 06:50 PM |
| 2 | [Video] Over 30y old woman increases her standards afer letting the a train of Chads run over her, finds out she is going to be single"Never settle" should be the default advice for this type of woman. Let her enjoy her misery alone. Don't let her drag down some decent guy. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 09/03/24 06:46 PM |
| 2 | I found a way to be happy being old and alone: Men my age are creepy old dudes anywayNo surprises here. Men prefer to spend their time and money on young women, who are more fertile, hotter, more agreeable, have less trauma and baggage, less rigid character and less set in their ways. Post wall ladies for some reason think their sexual experience, baggage, money and status, deteriorating looks and fertility are what men are looking for. Reality will humble them eventually. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 09/03/24 06:42 PM |
| 6 | Do you think safety is one reason why women don't commit as many sex crimes as men?Or a gun. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/24 04:35 PM |
| 2 | Would you give an attractive ex-pornstar a shot if she quit porn and was aggressively pursuing you?No. Being with an ex-pornstar hurts you reputation and status in society. I'd rather lose an eye than be socially humiliated and known as "that guy". Also, generally they make bad long term investments. The chances she can be sexually faithful to one guy for many decades are slim to none, so chances of infidelity and divorce are very high. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/24 08:19 PM |
| 1 | If men’s carnal first choice is younger woman, would you expect older men to be women’s?Yeah, no. On average, a 25 year old man is better looking than a 35 year old man who is in turn better looking than a 45 year old man etc. Noone gets better with age. Also, the younger the guy, the higher his sperm quality is, higher motility and lower mutation load. Reproductively, sexually, and biologically, younger is better. Why would an older woman prefer to be with a man her age? Well, obviously because he is much more likely to invest in her, whether it's material or immaterial resources.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/24 05:55 PM |
| 1 | Men who build an alpha male image for the sake of female attention, in fact, simps.Integrity and honesty matters little in this case. Just like pride generally matters little to a homeless beggar. If he doesn't go and ask for money in order to get food, he starves and dies. Game fucking over. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/24 05:46 PM |
| -2 | If men’s carnal first choice is younger woman, would you expect older men to be women’s?Physically and sexually, women of all ages generally prefer younger hot men in their 20s obviously. That's not really up for debate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/24 05:18 PM |
| 1 | Men who build an alpha male image for the sake of female attention, in fact, simps.If it gets you what you want, it's not simping. Simping is basically giving a woman your attention, time and money and getting nothing in return. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/24 04:50 PM |
| 1 | Are women generally speaking more loyal to their partner?Usually only applies to older ages, like 40+. And usually both descend at the same rate. Obesity rates rise with age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 01:42 PM |
| 1 | Why don’t ppl get extra help?I haven't seen one single guy, who has been working out consistently and diligently for years, both in the gym and in the kitchen, that didn't have a physique that would be considered very attractive by the overwhelming majority of women. Not a single one. But it does take a few years, probably like 4-5 years or so, and the younger you start, the faster you'll get there. If someone has 1 hour to spare every day watching netflix, they have 1 hour to spare working out. It's about priorities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 01:36 PM |
| 1 | Are women generally speaking more loyal to their partner?Women aren't more loyal than men. That's a myth. Cheating rates are close. And it's more likely for a woman to leave the guy than the reverse. I am always baffled when people say "Oh I know tons of hot women who date ugly guys". Most couples are more or less on the same level of physical attractiveness. When you see a big discrepancy, it's almost usually one of two reasons: a)it's her first boyfriend and he got lucky, or b)he might be less attractive than her, but financially and socially he ran… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 01:04 PM |
| 1 | Why don’t ppl get extra help?Vast majority of people can get a good physique if they are consistent in their workouts and diet for years. They don't really need steroids, it's actually stupid to even consider them unless you're a competitive bodybuilder/athlete or something. Also you're comparing short term usage of HGH to long term usage of PEDs, it's a bad comparison. PEDs are more like a lifelong commitment. Once you stop, you lose most of the gains that come with having an excessive amount of androgenic steroids in your… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 12:55 PM |
| 0 | General question for all - and let's discuss honestly: Why do you even want a gf/bf? What is the point? Is it just hormones? Do you comprehend the dept and commitment you are all asking for?People want to fuck and eventually have kids. That simple really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 12:33 PM |
| 3 | Are there really guys out there who prefer dumb/uneducated, bland, unsuccessful women?Men overwhelmingly prioritize youth and beauty, followed by character and personality. Basically a young hot fertile loyal chick who is pleasant to be around. These ladies are out of their mind if they think the vast majority of guys will pick a rich high status 160 IQ masculine mediocre looking older woman over the woman I mentioned above. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 24/02/24 09:31 PM |
| 1 | Men’s Virility: Women Blame Shifting & Lowering Romantic CompetitionBoth eggs and sperm deteriorate in quality with age, this has been known for decades. Sperm clinics for example don't accept sperm from men who are over 35. Reproductively the only difference is that men have a much larger fertility window compared to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/24 08:59 PM |
| 1 | Western women and shaming gold-diggersExactly. If men had to choose between a 33 year old unattractive western gold digger and a 23 year old attractive foreign gold digger, clearly they'd go for the latter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/24 08:55 PM |
| 1 | How many men with net worth over $1 million would pay for sex if that means getting to know a woman that's much prettier and smarterOption 2 of course. What's the point of having millions and millions of dollars if you're going to be stuck with a fat ugly chick? No reason at all. Hot women is one of the prime motivators for men to grind hard. And it's not like you'll take your money with you to the afterlife lmao. 10 years with the woman you really want(with a prenup of course) beats a lifetime with a fat ugly woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/24 08:35 PM |
| 2 | This is how women sound when saying "I'm giving the ugly guy a chance".Most couples are on the same level of physical attractiveness. Chances are she's just as ugly as the guy lmao. For the attractive ones who actually give the ugly guy a chance, that ugly guy probably has a big wallet, so he's also giving some broke chick a chance and it balances out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/24 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Phrases such as “Men age like wine, women age like milk” and “The Wall” are nonsensical.Physically noone ages like fine wine obviously. Everyone peaks in their 20s, not at 30+, unless we're talking about people who got significant amount of plastic surgery or were obese and lost a lot of weight. When someone says "men age like fine wine", it's about: a)the larger fertility window they have compared to women, and b)the fact that status and money generally rises with age and that women care way more about status and money in a guy(when it comes to LTR/marriage), while men care little… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/24 05:55 PM |
| 4 | The root of the gender war is birth controlEnjoy the decline. The issue will autocorrect itself eventually, but it'll take a while. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/24 05:45 AM |
| 2 | She isn’t “withholding” sex from you. She simply doesn’t feel like having sex.Potato potahto. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/24 05:33 AM |
| 1 | CMV: AI pr0n will not kill OFIt gave SIMPs a courage to seek women who'd they'd otherwise be too scared to approach IRL. It gave those women the power to say, "Pay me from a distance loser and I'll let you think you're chatting with me." AI can also do all that stuff, but better. Create mathematically perfect women? Yes. Create naughty videos? Yes. Chat with the simps? Yes. I am not seeing your point here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 03:22 PM |
| 1 | Should extramarital affairs be destigmatised?Fastest way to kill committed relationships and marriage. But to be honest, those are already going downhill anyways, so a swift death to those institutons might do more good than harm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/24 08:00 AM |
| – | If female hypergamy is real, how can elite women be in a relationship?But if you're a big time female lawyer making fat stacks or a trust fund girlie then what's the point aiming up the socioeconomic ladder and down the attractiveness/genetic ladder Good question. This all might come down to biological differences. Men on average aren't physically and psychologically built to carry and birth babies, breastfeed babies and take care of babies especially in the early stages when they are newborns. The woman you're describing will have to take time off work etc. for s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/24 07:52 AM |
| – | Why do men knowingly date gold diggers?Money and fame/status won't make someone attractive. That's mostly looks, and to a lesser extent charisma/personality. So I don't disagree with you. However, a high amount of money and fame/status will guarantee a man is very sexually and reproductively successful, no matter how he looks(minus extreme cases where he is a deformed midget or 90 years old etc.). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 03:13 AM |
| – | Why do men knowingly date gold diggers?Most wealthy men are statistically plain looking. Most wealthy men, ~70-80%, are also self made. A lot of them got with their wives before they got rich, that's why they have average looking wives. But if they get divorced, the second wife is usually younger/hotter. The guys that get married after they get rich, usually get significantly hotter women than them. Your experience is quite anecdotal. If we're talking anecdotes, I've known a legit drug dealer, whose father also run sketchy businesses… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 02:52 AM |
| 0 | How important is penis size in modern dating? Are men getting the wrong ideas about Penis size as a result of porn and vindictive women?Bigger is generally better in most cases, unless it's way too big. But a big dick usually ranks low in priority compared to other traits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/24 02:47 AM |
| 42 | Soft harems and polygamy will be destigmatized in the coming generations if current trends continueSoft harems? It will probably be a thing, it kinda already has become a thing. Polygamy? I don't think any top tier guy will ever want to engage in polygamy, basically legally marry more than one woman. Polygamy only works when there is religion, traditional values and restriction of female sexuality. It might work in the muslim nations, but it doesn't work in the west. A man marrying multiple women will just end up with numerous divorces and will ruin himself. What you'll see is what's happenin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/24 02:42 AM |
| 6 | Why do men knowingly date gold diggers?Women hate gold diggers because they are snatching up the guys they want. Men hate gold diggers because they can't afford them. It's the usual "you can't fire me, I quit!". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/24 12:15 PM |
| 2 | If the game itself is not fair, does it justify not playing fair to get what you want?It doesn't justify it. But I'd rather be a winner who played dirty than a loser who followed the rules. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/24 07:41 AM |
| 1 | Why do men knowingly date gold diggers?Jeff and Gates losing half isn't actually losing half. They both have multiple kids with their ex-wives and their ex-wives are past their reproductive age. The vast majority of that wealth will be passed down to their kids. So the money might have temporarily taken a different path but it will eventually end up in the same destination. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/24 07:32 AM |
| 5 | Why do men knowingly date gold diggers?They really want hot women. It's that simple. They want to look at a pretty face every morning, they want to fuck a hot body every night, and they want to have beautiful kids. Also, a very attractive woman increases a man's perceived status in every social situation. They leverage their money in order to date the caliber of women they otherwise wouldn't be able to date basically. But generally most men with a lot of money are smart enough to have asset protections in place and to get a prenup. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/24 07:19 AM |
| 2 | Do you think men can be completely loyal, in your opinion?Some men can. Some men can't. There are definitely some men who will never cheat, under any circumstances, but that's the minority, like 20% or so. The rest can potentially cheat and if the right opportunity at the right time comes along, they will definitely cheat. Thankfully cheating only happens when intention meets opportunity and most men lack opportunities to cheat, so the majority of men won't cheat, even if the intention is there. A lot of men will brag about how loyal they are and how t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/24 03:02 AM |
| 3 | Telling men their standards are high because they don't want to date or pursue single moms for a LTR is absurdThis shouldn't even be a debate. You're stating the obvious. Any woman who comes packaged with another man's kids(who are still not out of the house) is a big liability, and has to compensate a lot in other aspects(like physical attractiveness), in order to be considered for a longterm relationship/marriage over a childless woman. It's like a meh looking guy wanting a model. He better have a lot of cash if he wants to stand a chance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 06:09 PM |
| 2 | 50/50 relationship are not equalThe man gets sex, something he would have to pay hundreds of dollars for even a single session if he wast in a relationship. This doesn't account for quality. For hundreds of dollars you can get a really hot woman to fuck, not just some plain looking or above average woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 05:30 PM |
| 4 | What is a HVM or a HVF?All these descriptions about "high value" are meaningless. The market decides your value. So what kind of market are we talking about here? The mating market? The job market? Assuming it's the mating market, then quite simply, the individuals who are the most sexually and reproductively successful are the highest value. A 60 year old billionaire who can use his money to sleep and impregnate multiple attractive women is high value, even if he is deficient in other traits. A 25 year old "Chad" who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 04:14 AM |
| 1 | Is there any legitimate argument to be made for the superiority of women over men?When it comes to physical ability, it's not even debatable. And when it comes to intelligence, take a look at the iq distribution. At the extreme ends of the spectrum, men greatly outnumber women. At ~120 IQ, men to women ratio is 2:1. At ~170 IQ, it's 30:1. Combine the two and it's very easy to see that at the very top of every hierarchy, it's far more likely to find a man occupying that position. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 04:06 AM |
| 2 | Men, which woman is better? Why?Given the options presented here, woman number 2 is by far the better option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 03:50 AM |
| 1 | Why does Polyamory get so much hate here?You have a limited amount of time and physical and mental resources. You can either use all that to build a castle or ten wooden sheds. It's up to the individual. But once a strong enough hurricane arrives, well, we know which one will most likely be left standing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 04:01 AM |
| 5 | I just don't think it's fairA post wall single mom, who statistically probably looks meh at best, shouldn't have too many demands. Actually she should just be happy that someone, anyone, condiders her for a ltr at this point. These women are selling toyotas demanding ferrari prices. They are also stuck in delusional fairytale teenage fantasies. You're not Snow White the protagonist, lady. You're the villainous witch-hag! | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 05/02/24 02:06 AM |
| 3 | Question for any anthropologists out there: In what society has this behavior been considered "traditional"?Men don't want to spend a penny of their money or a second of their time raising and tolerating some other man's kids. These ladies don't get it at all. She claims traditional, but she probably isn't. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 05/02/24 01:50 AM |
| 7 | Women, on average, tend to age much better than men doReproductively? Men age far better. They have a larger fertility window. That's not even debatable. Physically(facially/looks-wise)? Both age the same, up till around 50 or so. After that? Men end up aging better. Aging causes masculinization of the face, that's a fact. Aging is detrimental to both genders, but it is twice as detrimental for women, since more feminine faces are preferred in women. The old saying "Old men look like Sean Connery. Old women also look like Sean Connery." holds very … | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 05/02/24 01:44 AM |
| 2 | Is It real that Russian/ukranian women are goldiggers or they care about Money like every women?Gold-digging runs rampant in the soviet DNA. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. Some men have a lot of money and that's their only redeeming quality. Getting a hot gold digger(with a prenup of course) isn't a bad deal for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 11:59 PM |
| – | The gender divide has become undeniable , can anything be done to solve this?AI girlfriends will never be a popular thing lmao. And hyper realistic sex robots are at least 100 years away. Advanced VR technology with full sensory output is going to be the next big thing, but even that is decades away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/24 07:58 PM |
| 1 | Why do many women say age gap relationships have a "power imbalance" yet say nothing about wealth gap relationships?Money is a form of power. Beauty is also a form of power. The reality is that an older man who ranks high financially and socially will date a younger woman who ranks significantly below him financially and socially, but in most cases the woman ranks above him physically. So it balances out. There is no real imbalance going on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/24 07:39 PM |
| 7 | Would you be a beta bucks?Correct. My point is that if you're going to betabuxx, it is only worth it if you're getting a good deal out of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/24 10:42 PM |
| 1 | Are women the primary motivator in most men's lives?Absolutely. Not for all, but for the vast majority of men that is the prime motivator. We're all here to ultimately reproduce, have families and kids. Once that's out of the window, men might not drop completely out of society and become NEETs, but the productivity will decrease significantly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/24 04:31 PM |
| 18 | Would you be a beta bucks?Betabuxxing in the vast majority of cases is not worth it. Betabuxxing in my opinion is only worth it if you get a very physically attractive childless woman with a prenup. In every other case, the cons outweigh the pros. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/24 04:19 PM |
| 1 | Which one is correct?For most people it's option 2. Biologically we are all driven to reproduce. So family and kids are by default the most important thing for most people. If it wasn't, we'd have gone extinct by now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/24 04:14 PM |
| 3 | How can LTRs last when modern men discard women who reach thirty or forty?That's exactly my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/24 10:35 PM |
| 10 | How can LTRs last when modern men discard women who reach thirty or forty?Do men leave their wives that they met young when these women reach 40? Most likely no. Would men date their wives if they met them when these women were 40? Most likely no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/24 04:32 PM |
| 3 | Woman (starts) to realize adult realities (just) prior to retirement ageOf course, everything starts with intense physical sexual attraction, that is the foundation that love is built upon. That's what differentiates a platonic relationship/friendship from a romantic relationship after all. If the foundation is not there or it's a poor foundation, then love is unlikely to blossom. It's like trying to build a house in a swamp. For example, imagine meeting your wife at 20. After 30 years at 50 due to the aging process she will not be as vibrant, or as beautiful, or as… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 19/01/24 08:47 PM |
| – | Women consistently rate themselves as being far more attractive than they are, and despite what people here say men rarely do thisDesirability is for the most part influenced by the superficial traits, that's the reality of the situation, so by default you can't be a 9. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/24 05:45 PM |
| 1 | How do you explain the phenomenon of ‘high quality’ falling for absolute dregs?I call these cases exceptions to the rule or extreme outliers. Because that's what they are. I don't think they are even worth mentioning. very attractive, intelligent and ambitious mutual friend is now dating an older, pudgy, fairly unattractive single dad who seems like a scumbag going by the frequent obnoxious often racist shit he posts on social media which I know doesn’t even align with her views. There is like a one in a million chance for this to happen. Like saying I know a guy who was h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/24 05:35 PM |
| – | Women consistently rate themselves as being far more attractive than they are, and despite what people here say men rarely do thisThere is definitely some merit when it comes to this. I've never seen or met a short, fat, ugly dude that claimed he was a catch, a 10/10 etc. I've seen plenty of short fat ugly women claiming they are though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/24 05:29 PM |
| 5 | How true is the Madonna Whore complex for guys?and with the number of long-term, but not short-term, sexual partners and age of first sex, for females. NOT short term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 09:41 PM |
| 3 | How true is the Madonna Whore complex for guys?Facial attractiveness correlated with the number of short-term, but not long-term, sexual partners, for males, and with the number of long-term, but not short-term, sexual partners and age of first sex, for females. Body attractiveness also correlated significantly with the number of short-term, but not long-term, sexual partners, for males For any person that has been with any sizeable amount of partners, it's common sense that most of them would be short term, and that should be the main metri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 08:48 PM |
| 8 | How true is the Madonna Whore complex for guys?Well I don't keep an archive and it's been a while, but it might have been this one: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513804000765 But it's quite possible it was another one, because I don't remember it dinstinguishing between facial and bodily attractiveness, or it might indeed have been this one and my mind is simply playing tricks on me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 07:59 PM |
| -6 | How true is the Madonna Whore complex for guys?100% facts. That's exactly my position on the subject. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 06:13 PM |
| 1 | If men don’t pay for dates are they willing to change their preferences for the sake of equality?This assumes that a woman would be willing to go on a date with any guy, as long as he is willing to pay the bill. That's quite simply not the case and the whole argument falls apart. For a guy to be considered at least somewhat desirable, in the vast majority of cases he has to put in quite a bit of effort in quite a few areas. And all of those things cost either money or time. Is the woman going to reimburse him for his efforts as well? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 04:01 PM |
| 36 | How true is the Madonna Whore complex for guys?First, there is little to no correlation between a woman's physical attractiveness and the amount of sexual partners she had. I remember reading one study a while ago and it was pretty clear that the more physically attractive the man was, the more sexual partners he usually had. No such thing was observed in women, meaning a plain jane and a hot chick can both be giga whores. Most women can easily get casual sex if they wanted and have the potential to be whores, which makes sense since men are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 03:54 PM |
| -2 | Is personality more important to men or women?Ugly women can easily find a decent dude to fuck, but to actually find a boyfriend they experience the same level of difficulty as an ugly man. Hell, in some cases, the ugly man might have it better than them if he manages to overperform socially and financially. The same just doesn't apply to ugly women. The ratio is 1:1 and eventually everyone pairs up. An average woman can't have it better than the average man in the longterm dating market unless she chooses to be the side chick, but then she… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 10:54 PM |
| 11 | Is personality more important to men or women?It's far more likely to see an impressive looking woman with an unimpressive looking man than the reverse. But it has nothing to do with his personality being the trait that tipped the scales in his favor. That guy usually ranks higher socially and financially than the woman he is dating, that's how he got her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 06:27 PM |
| 1 | Why confidence is a meme.Confidence comes from repeated past success. This applies to every realm of human endeavor | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/24 11:23 PM |
| – | Passport bros and mail order husbands doing it wrong: The case for marrying up not downThis sounds as delusional as those young bimbos who seduce 80 year old billionaires thinking they'll get his money after he dies. In the vast majority of cases, just like Anna Nicole Smith eventually found out, they get nothing, because noone becomes a billionaire by being stupid, and their assets go to their kids and grandkids, not to some loser they've known for a few years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 10:33 PM |
| 0 | What do you being to the tableI am both a table and a 10. I know my worth. Do I need to say more? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 10:27 PM |
| – | Men are delusional as much as women, if not more.Ask women (who aren't a neurotic mess) who date over 30. They still have options the average dude will never dream of even with a lifetime of leveling up. Questionable statement. The average woman has far easier time getting casual sex for sure. But having way more relationships/marriage options than the average dude? The ratio is close to 1:1, the math doesn't math. The most desirable men will pair up with the most desirable women. The second most desirable men will pair up with the second most… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 10:24 PM |
| 2 | Woman (starts) to realize adult realities (just) prior to retirement ageAverage lifespan is ~75. She is two thirds of the way there and she is still searching for "the one". Complete and utter delusion. Even in literature and completely fictional works, there was never a book about a grand romance that starts with two senior citizens a few years away from death finding each other. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 14/01/24 09:17 PM |
| -1 | What are your guys views on "entitlement" of sex in marriage?If a man doesn't get sex from his wife, in a lot of cases he'll just seek it elsewhere. Just like he is not entitled to sex, she is not entitled to his "sexual" fidelity. In reality, noone is entitled to anyone's sexual fidelity, it's not illegal to cheat, and if someone's partner is purposefully withholding sex for a long period of time, the other person will say "screw faithfulness, I'm gonna get some pussy". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/24 07:27 PM |
| -1 | What are your guys views on "entitlement" of sex in marriage?If someone denies the other once in a while, it's normal. But if it happens consistently for a long period of time and it's intentional, then it's a violation of the marriage contract. A big reason men choose to enter relationships and marriages is for consistent sex after all, that's just a fact. Personally if I ever ended up in such a situation, I'd probably divorce her if the conditions were favorable, but if it's cheaper to keep her and/or also still had kids at home, I'd just cheat. Simple … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/24 07:15 PM |
| 1 | Do men/women actually settle, or are they just unable to come to terms with their actual matches?"I settled" is just another way to say "I couldn't do any better to begin with". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/24 03:50 PM |
| 1 | Debate : People dont understand that Money and status makes you GENUINELY more sexually attractive as a Man.We've had these discussions many many times over. Genuine desire is for the most part looks and maybe to a small extent charm/charisma. Status and money only gets you women interested to date/marry you for social opportunities and financial benefits. That being said, do men who rank very high in status and money care? Most likely not. Once you have asset protections in place, a large team of lawyers and a good prenup, genuine desire becomes irrelevant. You can look like a gremlin but there will … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/24 11:06 PM |
| 1 | Sex Robots will fix the dating marketHyper realistic sex robots are a pipedream. It will probably take at least a few centuries for that. Ultrarealistic VR technology with full sensory output is far closer than sex robots. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/24 10:55 PM |
| 1 | How common is it for you to see people cheating?Based on my personal experience and obeservations I'd say that in 50% of couples someone is cheating or has cheated in the past. It sounds like a big percentage and it's bad, but the positive thing is that in 50% of couples noone is cheating. It's a coin toss. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/24 12:54 PM |
| 8 | Should paternity tests be mandatory?Yes, paternity tests should be mandatory. And after getting the test, men who are fine with raising another man's kid can just put their name on the certificate. There are only upsides to this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/24 12:50 PM |
| – | Why do red pill men dislike attractive women?Hypergamy by definition only applies to dating across and up in socioeconomic status, so by that definition they are not. But they do date across and up in looks when it comes to marriage/longterm relationships. I mean it's just common sense. If a woman dates significantly up socioeconomically, in most cases she's dating down in looks, so the man is dating up in looks. Both get what they prioritize. If they didn't, there would be no relationship. A man who ranks higher than the woman in both loo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/24 10:56 AM |
| – | Why do red pill men dislike attractive women?The only sane comment here. The dissonance here is quite large. There are hot women with questionable character who made bad decisions in life, and there are average women with questionable character who made bad decisions in life. The notion that a less attractive woman won't cheat on you or divorce you is nonsense. She can easily sleep with a good looking guy just like a good looking woman can sleep with a good looking guy. And with divorce rate being 52%, most of the people divorcing are aver… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/24 10:41 AM |
| 1 | Question for men: is the madonna-whore complex real?Men ideally want variety, more than one woman basically, you can blame the lizard brain. Even if the guy has married a virgin supermodel of impeccable character, who is great in the bedroom, he'll still desire other women, even women that are less attractive than his wife and have questionable character. You ideally want to marry the best woman that exists, but also be able to fuck most of the other women as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/24 10:11 AM |
| – | Why do red pill men dislike attractive women?Andrew Tate always says he sleeps with and only dates 10s, he never said anything about adjustible 7s. F&F are the ones who mention it a lot and to me it sounds complete nonsense, because quite simply in real life it won't ever happen, because men overwhelmingly prioritize looks, especially for longterm relationships/marriage. It's only for easy sex that they will drop their physical standards, as long as it requires little to no effort on their part of course. If a woman dates significantly up … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/24 09:40 AM |
| 1 | Debate The importance off social skills is absolutely underrated in modern men.If we consider the baseline as a man who is a dead average physically, a perfect 5/10, with average social skills/charisma, will he be able to shoot significantly out of his league(2 points or more) if he ranked high on charisma/social skills? Since we established that is not the case, looks are by default more important. The whole point of comparing these two let's say "stats" is whether ranking high on one can compensate for being less ideal in the other. If it can't, then by default the other… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/24 06:38 PM |
| 4 | Debate The importance off social skills is absolutely underrated in modern men.This was my point. Being above average socially, meaning having great social skills and a large social circle, definitely increases quantity, but not quality. A 5/10 man is basically stuck with women in the 4-6/10 range, meaning women of more or less same physical attractiveness as him. Given that monogamy, marriage to one person and high investment is the most prevalent arrangement longterm, people will have to maximize to get the best they can, which ultimately makes social skills less importa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/24 02:39 PM |
| 8 | Debate The importance off social skills is absolutely underrated in modern men.I wasn't specific enough I guess. By quality I meant physical attractiveness. Extroversion, good social skills, balls and a large social circle will obviously increase your chances significantly when it comes to finding someone, the whole point is whether you can find someone you want and are satisfied with. OP for example claims that a 5/10 guy with great social skills will have more success than a 7/10 guy with average social skills. I personally question that. The 5/10 might have more success… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/24 02:18 PM |
| 6 | Debate The importance off social skills is absolutely underrated in modern men.Depends on what you mean by "do well". Quantity? Quality? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/24 02:04 PM |
| 5 | Are men who do not want to commit to relationships simply risk-averse?In some cases, yes, it's due to risk aversion like you said based on many factors like promiscuity, baggage, mental illness etc. In other cases, it's simply because the woman is not hot enough. Generally a man who is an 8 will fuck a 6 if it requires low to no investment/effort on his part, but will only put effort and pursue women that are 8s or above for longterm relationships/marriage. That's why a lot of women are stuck in situationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/24 12:49 PM |
| 3 | There is nothing wrong with being a side chick if we accept the reality of hypergamyBeing a side chick is not very beneficial for women. Women become side chicks because they eventually want to be promoted to first place. Most of a man's time and resources will always go to the main chick and the kids he has with the main chick. He won't have kids with the side chicks or spend a considerable amount of money and time on them. Unless there was a law where he didn't have to pay child support or be present in the life of the kid he has with the side chick, then he might at least co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/24 12:42 PM |
| 3 | Why are people so reluctant to accept serial monogamy?If there was no divorce and consequences, people would be fine with serial monogamy. And if a break up happens, what is mine is mine and what is yours is yours. With the obvious difference that one has to pay child support to the person who has custody of the kids. Splitting of assets and alimony is what people don't like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/24 12:38 PM |
| 1 | My Take On PPD: No One Is InnocentHot guys might not dip in the below average pool, but they fuck 5s and 6s all the time, if there is little to no effort required on their part of course. I knew very attractive guys working nightlife and they were running through quite a few unimpressive women. And it's probably even worse if you add dating apps into the mix. There is a saying in my country that translates to "a good grinder grinds everything". If it's easy and fast sex, men are willing to drop their physical standards significa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 03:40 PM |
| 2 | Kin Influence and Sexual SelectionThe disconnect happens because back in the olden days GG and PPP usually went hand in hand, so it's hard to tell which one was most important. The man who was the most physically capable and most shrewd in most cases was also the man who accumulated the most status and resources. In modern society accumulation of land/titles/wealth that can be passed on through generations to your offsprings and all the modern inventions, technology and conveniences changed things radically. GG nowadays doesn't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 12:07 PM |
| 1 | Inexperience in older men is a disadvantage, not a death sentenceRead it quite a bit ago, so can't remember. Also, I can't remember if it was a somewhat recent study or an old one. The tl;dr version was that the vast majority of people will lose their virginity by 25, and most of those who remain virgins past 25 will most likely be lifetime virgins. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 11:47 AM |
| 2 | Inexperience in older men is a disadvantage, not a death sentenceStatistically if you are a virgin over the age of 25, you'll most likely stay a virgin for life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 11:37 AM |
| 7 | Kin Influence and Sexual SelectionPPP traits are still as valuable, it's just that the hypergamy bar is higher since women are making money now. Women still rarely if ever marry/date down socioeconomically, for example you will rarely see plain looking female doctors betabuxxing for a stay at home Chad. From a strictly biological perspective, where reproduction and passing on your genes equals success, betabuxxers are still quite successful. Even today most women choose to pass their betabux husband's genes to the next generatio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 11:23 AM |
| 6 | My Take On PPD: No One Is InnocentMale alpha widow isn't a thing and if it is, it's an extremely rare thing. The chances that a 5/10 man will casually bang or date let's say an 8/10 woman are slim to none, unless he ranks quite high socially and financially(which is a small percentage of the male population). Meanwhile, a 5/10 woman can fairly easily engage in situationships or ONS with 8/10 guys, which makes a female alpha widow quite common. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 11:08 AM |
| – | Women suffer from oneitis at least as much as men in my experienceSure. Chads and alpha widows are proof of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/24 12:47 PM |
| – | Has intelligence become less valuable in todays dating society?Recent study I remember psyhacks has quoted a few times, called "What attractive women want" or something along those lines, found out that when it comes to what traits a woman wants in a man the top traits were first "sexy"(basically physically attractive), followed by "successful"(money/status basically), followed by "honest" iirc. "Loyal" wasn't in the top traits. And the two traits at the bottom of the list? "Kind" and "intelligent". Funny how that works out especially when they are very voc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/24 12:40 PM |
| 5 | Some men aren't fit to reproduce or date and it's okay to say thatSome unfortunate looking broke coke dealer, who already has 5 kids out of wedlock, is laughing at your argument from prison. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/24 12:33 PM |
| 1 | Do you that marriage is largely obsolete today now that social norms have been largely relaxed?I am all for the union of souls/spirits/animus, I just don't like the union of assets/bank accounts. Lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/24 12:24 PM |
| 3 | Do you feel like the sexual revolution benefits men more than women?It benefits a small percentage of men and a big percentage of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/24 12:22 PM |
| 1 | The RP Theory that a Women can become so undesirable (for whatever reason) where she can‘t find a Man which commits to her is completely wrong.Well, for relationships this hypothetical woman you speak of can only get a guy who is on the same level of desirability as her. Would she want him though? And most importantly, would he want her? Ultimately, it's a cost benefit analysis, and the risk and effort required should match the reward. For example the 4/10 Billy might as well choose corn, video games, the occassional escort and maybe a couple of beers with his two friends once a week to fulfill his needs instead of being this woman's w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/24 12:18 PM |
| 2 | The talking point that "older men prey on young girls because older women are less willing to put up with their bullshit" misses the mark.There are quite a few reasons of course, but the big main reason is that younger women are on average more physically attractive. And older men choose to spend their money and time on courting those women instead of the older women who are on average less physically attractive. That's pretty much it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/23 12:49 PM |
| 1 | Real "alpha" male movie portrayals, like in life, the focus is on WINNING, not "genuine desire"That's not a win, that's a draw at best. Both guys destroyed each other. They both lost, noone won. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/23 02:28 AM |
| 26 | One sided open relationshipsThis is one of their points that I don't agree with and even I, a cocaine fueled hardcore redpiller, knows that it's bullshit. The young low bodycount hot traditional/conservative/religious women with great character that they claim they want to wife up will never, not in a million years, be fine with this arrangement, even if you look like Henry Cavill and have hundreds of millions in the bank account. On the contrary, the promiscuous 304s of questionable character they claim they don't want ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/23 01:26 AM |
| 2 | It is better to be desired than tolerated?Being desired is optimal, obviously. But being tolerated can the second best thing, but only if you're getting exactly what you want and have minimized the risk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/23 07:26 PM |
| 4 | Being Social does NOT Help Lonely Men in Dating (CMV)Depends on how socially competent you are and what you're willing to sacrifice. I have known quite a few people in their early to mid 20s, who were unimpressive physically and financially, but very extroverted, had great social skills and inherent charisma, socialized a lot, worked in the local nightlife and managed to gain some social status/popularity in that setting, and had zero problems getting hot women. But these were guys who never spent much time home, never cared much about being finan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/23 07:22 PM |
| 1 | “Self Worth” is a silly concept. Your worth is determined by others, not you.That's kind of a fact I guess. Your value in the mating market is determined by the women who are willing to engage with you. Your value in the job market is determined by what employers are willing to offer and pay you. Same thing applies to almost everything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/23 07:10 PM |
| – | Paternity tests should not be used as a weapon against opposite sex, but as a logical progression of rightsweapon against the opposite sex Lmao. Men are getting cucked and wasting their time and money raising another man's spawn, but as usual women most affected. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 02:27 PM |
| 2 | Women have lots of options but they also don’tWomen have more options when it comes to casual sex, not relationships. With a 1:1 ratio and the vast majority of people pairing up with one person, it's very easy to see why. The most desirable men will pair up with the most desirable women, the second most desirable men will pair up with the second most desirable women, and so on and so forth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 09:43 AM |
| 11 | How to fix a problem that millions of women around the world are complaining aboutNo grown ass man, especially a desirable man will ever wait 90 days, and if he does, you better bet he is getting that coochie from someone else while he does the waiting. That advice only works for religious people and virgins, which I assume is not the case for most people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 09:24 AM |
| 2 | Feminism’s wet dream may be possible in the near future as Male Killing virus discovered in insects.moths humans Quite a bit different I think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/23 10:05 AM |
| 2 | Once a woman stops being attracted to her husband, and the bedroom is dead, there is no reviving it.Depends on the underlying reason. Is it because the guy went from 10% bf and jacked to a 400 pounds fat slob and she started being kinda disgusted by him? Well, theoretically you might be able to revive it if you went back to 10% bf and jacked. Is it because the guy went from a multimillionaire CEO to a 50k/year 9-5 wagie and she started feeling he's dead weight? Perhaps you might be able to revive it if you started making big bucks again. If the attraction was never really there to begin with a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 12:37 AM |
| 1 | Honesty is the kryptonite of sexual success for menThat's why women can't get enough of the dark triad guys. Honesty usually doesn't work, unless she finds you very physically attractive and is a girl who has low inhibitions and can easily engage in casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 12:22 AM |
| 3 | Men don’t actually like “good” womenMen prefer good women by a huge margin, but having good character and being pleasant to be around is only a plus if the physical attractiveness threshold is met. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 12:17 AM |
| 1 | Guys talk about being judged for being virgins but how do women know?Watching them walking down the street? Hard to tell. Going on a date with them? Pretty easy to tell. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 12:11 AM |
| 1 | Contrary to what reddit says , I think it's mainly women who want families and kids, men primarily want sex above allMost people eventually want kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 12:08 AM |
| 1 | Does experiencing love for the first time in your mid 20s feel the same as it would have if you experienced it in your teens?Society might not deserve his efforts, but young hot hookers and cocaine might. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 02:43 AM |
| 0 | Do you think women should put effort into finding a partner if marriage and kids are their goal?Some approach men by giving the men a green light to approach them. That's not approaching though. Approaching means to go up to the person and initiate the interaction. Some women might do, but the majority of women certainly don't approach guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 09:32 PM |
| 1 | The “Higher-Testosterone Men Like Thicker Women” meme is based on literally nothingMen on average prefer a fit woman with decently sized breasts and ass, a slim waist and wide hips. Thicker nowadays just means chubby/fat, which is definitely not most guys' ideal bodytype. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 01:35 AM |
| 4 | Would you date someone with herpes ?Herpesmaxxing is not one of my goals, so no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 01:05 AM |
| 0 | Does men need to pay the bill?If the girl is hotter, the guy pays. If the guy is hotter, the girl pays. If they are more or less on the same level, they split it. This is the age of equality and equivalent exchange. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 11:25 PM |
| 1 | Why do (some) men believe women cheating is “worse”?Biological instincts deeply ingrained in the lizard brain. Paternity uncertainty. The man might have to unknowingly raise another man's child, wasting his time and resources secretly benefiting another man's genes, while his own genetic lineage coming to an end. Throughout human history a man who slept around worst case scenario would bring home an STD or something. A woman who slept around could probably also bring home another man's fetus. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/23 07:20 PM |
| 3 | Double standards are valid since... men sleep with women they would never date and women sleep with men they can never date.That's just facts. When it comes to looks, men sleep across and down, but marry/date across and up(depending on how much he can leverage his position with his money/status/social competency). It's a matter of investment/effort matching the reward. Men are willing to sleep down, if it takes little effort and investment on their part. But when they are required to properly invest and put in effort, they have significantly higher standards obviously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/23 06:58 PM |
| 1 | I've never understood why famous male celebrities chose to date/marry other female celebritiesMost people in Hollywood engage in copious amounts of debauchery, degeneracy, gold digging, clout chasing and social climbing. Do you really trust these guys to make a good choice when it comes to picking a wife? C'mon now... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 10:06 PM |
| 3 | I've never understood why famous male celebrities chose to date/marry other female celebritiesThat's true. Most of the world knows there is only one true football. And they've probably heard of Ronaldo and Messi, but never in their life have they ever heard the name Tom Brady. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 10:04 PM |
| – | The average woman is more attractive than the average manIf you include good makeup, then maybe there is some merit to that. If you don't, then not really. But even if hypothetically that was true, it doesn't really matter. Women compete with other women, men compete with other men. Individual ratings don't matter, it's more about percentiles. If a woman's attractiveness for example caps at 11 and a man's at 10, it won't make a difference. The ratio is close to 1:1 and most people will eventually pair up. If you think let's say only 5% of men are attr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 09:46 PM |
| 3 | Men increasing their standardsI perfectly get what you are saying. But ultimately, it doesn't matter, the market will force your hand eventually, whether it's sooner or later, and you'll have to compromise if you want to pair up longterm, have family, kids etc. If you don't, you'll be left with nothing, it's as simple as that. The clock is ticking and the window of opportunity is for most people limited. Also, just because the average man is more likely to find the average woman acceptable than the reverse, doesn't mean he d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 05:12 PM |
| 5 | Men increasing their standardsMen compete with other men, and women compete with other women. Most people take the top down approach. Eventually, the most desirable people will pair up with the most desirable people, the moderately desirable people will pair up with the moderately desirable people, and so on and so forth. Those who don't like their standing will either: a) have to continue to engage in short term situations with little chance of breaking out of the cycle(particularly true in the case of women), b)pay2play si… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 04:36 PM |
| 3 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADWomen have access to makeup and their height doesn't matter much, those are really the only variables. When it comes to everything else, both genders have the same access to solutions. Baldness? Finasteride and hair transplants. Poor facial features? Cosmetic work. It's not like the average woman without makeup looks better than the average man facially. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 04:23 PM |
| 2 | Men increasing their standardsYou're exaggerating, greatly, in both of those percentages. a boy finds almost any girl attractive visually Depends on what you mean "attractive visually". Attractive enough to bang with a bag over her head, after quite a bit of whiskey at 2am, compared to watching corn and jerking off? You're most likely correct. Attractive enough to put a lot of effort into pursuing and investing in a relationship? Absolutely not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 04:05 PM |
| 1 | The wall does exist but there are misconceptionsA woman being post wall doesn't mean she's become invisible, it just means she's become less desirable, mostly for longterm relationships/marriage, less for short term situations(since men will fuck almost anything if it requires little to no effort on their part after all). Also, yes, the Wall also includes loss of beauty, among other things(fertility, baggage, blablabla). The average 33 year old will look worse than the average 23 year old. That's just a fact. Even the hottest 23 year old woma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 12:56 PM |
| 1 | Most women respect men with larger penises more than men with smaller ones, even if they do not prefer larger penises in a sexual contextA bigger phallus is obviously way more impressive visually. Nothing new here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 12:34 PM |
| 1 | Men who refuse to raise a child that isn’t biologically yours but want kids, why do you want kids?If sex is all they want, and they can get it, their standards are fine. If a relationship is what they want and they can't get it, evidently their standards are not fine. By your own logic, a fugly 60 year old 60k/year joe can afford young hot escorts/prostitutes here and there, so his standards of only wanting to date 21 year old hotties are fine as well. But everyone knows it doesn't work that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 12:31 PM |
| 1 | JDBF (Just Don’t Be Fat)Well, being fat will generally also show on the face, by losing weight you're improving both body and face to some extent. That being said... Men also tend to care about face a lot less than women. Factually incorrect. For most guys face is more important than body, especially for longterm. Who do you think will get the better man? A very fit chick with big tits and great ass but a plain looking face or a skinny chick with barely any tits and ass but a highly attractive face? In most cases it's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 11:47 AM |
| 1 | Porn is mostly positive for menPorn is only bad if you are jerking off all day or spending all your savings on onlyfans/camsites/etc. Just like anything else really, like video games or watching sports or alcohol etc. If done in moderation, it's fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 02:24 PM |
| 1 | What is the term for when males seek the physically "hottest" females? The contrast would be when females seek to "date up" socially we call it HYPERGAMY.Just call it "dating up in looks". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/23 11:27 PM |
| 1 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADA lot of sugar, soy, estrogens, microplastics and lack of physical activity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/23 11:14 AM |
| 26 | Highly unethical advice from a semi retired man whore, that is the true one pillYou can definitely coke your way into pussy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 05:51 PM |
| 2 | The problem with this subreddit is that half of the sub are people in their 20s, the other half are early Millennials and Gen XAll I see is that ~70% of the sub is male and ~30% of the sub is female. And that ~65% is 30 and under, while only 8% is over 40. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 01:22 PM |
| 2 | The problem with this subreddit is that half of the sub are people in their 20s, the other half are early Millennials and Gen XEvidently I have not, where is that data? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 11:42 AM |
| 3 | CMV: if you feel it’s fine to ask your wife for a paternity test without cause, you should also be fine with a wife choosing to live outside the home for fear you might kill her.My point is that one fear, no matter how unlikely, can very easily be alleviated, the other is not. Case in point, irrational fear of cars and car accidents. There is no easy solution here. You either never get in a car and drive or buy a tank to minimize the risk to damn near zero. Noone will sell you or let you drive a tank though. So you'll have to structure your whole life around never using a car and walking big distances, wasting half your life, in order to get to whatever destination you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 11:40 AM |
| 4 | LOOKS DISCUSSION MORATORIUMI mean the only difference is that the redpill doesn't idolize pretty male models. But saying that looks don't matter is just BS. Half of the discussion is "muscles", "fashion" and "height". The other half is money and status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 11:06 AM |
| 14 | LOOKS DISCUSSION MORATORIUMInteresting, one could even say that "looks is your personality". Lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 10:50 AM |
| 5 | The problem with this subreddit is that half of the sub are people in their 20s, the other half are early Millennials and Gen XSure there might be a significant difference between 2023 and 2000, but not a big difference between 2023 and 2010 is what I am saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 10:19 AM |
| 8 | CMV: if you feel it’s fine to ask your wife for a paternity test without cause, you should also be fine with a wife choosing to live outside the home for fear you might kill her.What nonsense is this, man? One can easily be solved with a paternity test. You pay 100 bucks or whatever it is and it's a done deal. Problem solved. It's that easy. No simple solution for the other one. If a woman wants to live outside the house and fears that you might kill her, she's not your wife and you're most likely already divorced. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 10:15 AM |
| 11 | The problem with this subreddit is that half of the sub are people in their 20s, the other half are early Millennials and Gen XMost here are below 40. Dating apps and social media have been around for over a decade(facebook started growing exponentially at like 2008 or something). Things haven't changed much. If someone is let's say 35 now, when facebook was gaining traction, he was 20. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 09:44 AM |
| 6 | CMV: if you feel it’s fine to ask your wife for a paternity test without cause, you should also be fine with a wife choosing to live outside the home for fear you might kill her.Reason and logic escapes you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 09:34 AM |
| 8 | Tyrese Gibson’s Estranged Wife speaks on how influence and peer pressure from friends pushed her to leave him. Tyrese speaks on the matter as wellNothing about men or women specifically, he mentioned just what I've written. Also, he mentioned some other good stats as well like(all taken from CDC 2021 iirc): More educated people have a lower chance of divorce. The effect was significant between educated men and uneducated men, but not as significant between educated women and non educated women. That being said, educated women did divorce less compared to uneducated women. While risk of divorce decreases significantly the more the househol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 02:28 PM |
| 34 | Tyrese Gibson’s Estranged Wife speaks on how influence and peer pressure from friends pushed her to leave him. Tyrese speaks on the matter as wellJames Sexton, a divorce attorney, mentioned a stat that couples who have divorced friends have like 75% chance of divorce. The peer pressure and herd mentality is real. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 02:01 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Nice guys are really just thirsty guys.Guys who whine that being nice didnt get them laid. An acceptable definition I guess. That doesnt mean he’s owed her time just because he put effort and time in to courting. Correct, that's why any guy should make his interest known and put only a minimal amount of effort and time when courting a girl. Overinvesting, especially early, doesn't work in the vast majority of cases. Those mental and physical resources are better spent by investing them on yourself. And while that seems counterproduct… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 01:56 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Nice guys are really just thirsty guys.First, every guy with a working peepee is thirsty for sex. It is what it is. Second, at this point noone can tell what a "nice guy" really is. The definition of the term has been altered and vilified beyond recognition. A nice guy is probably a guy who quite simply puts more effort and time in courting a girl. He is intentionally trying to make a good impression, spending extra time texting or whatever, plans and pays for dates etc. Some call them simps. Why he does all that is very simple. Sex … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 01:27 PM |
| 8 | Are men really not attracted to fat girls?Oh yeah, what a great rebuttal! For one you can find easy to follow actionable advice, with very low barrier of entry, a well laid detailed long term plan for it with a guaranteed outcome. We are not even talking about having an amazing physique here or competing in bodybuilding, we're just talking about not being fat. For the other? Not so much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 01:09 PM |
| 21 | Are men really not attracted to fat girls?The barrier of entry when it comes to not being fat is orders of magnitude lower than the barrier of entry when it comes to making over 200k. False equivalency at play here. Not being fat only takes three things: working out, proper nutrition and consistency. Easy to follow actionable advice. You do it for a decent period of time and you'll not be fat. 95%+ of the population can easily manage it. It doesn't take much money or time, and only a tiny fraction of the population due to genetic makeup… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 12:40 PM |
| 1 | Question for guys. What is your response to the women who get angry and claim they will divorce or break up if asked to do a DNA paternity test?This is one of those things that you don't play with. If someone is even a little bit suspicious, then he'll get a DNA test and nothing will stop him from getting it. With or without the woman's knowledge. Noone wants to be stuck 18 years raising some other man's kid. "Red flag" or "orange flag" or how he is perceived, at that point he doesn't care about any of this childish BS. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 10:50 AM |
| 4 | If you are unattractive, chances are it has NOTHING to do with your weightBeing fat is not attractive. It turns your body from this ) ( to this ( ). Also, it bloats your face and in some cases basically makes your face blend into your neck. Losing weight will significantly improve someone's appearance, but obviously it won't push them into the elite tiers of physical attractiveness, unless they have a bunch of other physical traits already. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 04:25 PM |
| 1 | Why do people think that looks matters so much ?I mean obviously you have to have some balls, charisma and social skills. No shy and socially awkward guy ever does well with women, unless we are not talking about a good looking guy, but an exceptionally good looking guy instead, in which case he probably gets approached quite a bit and women are willing to do all the work for him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 08:27 PM |
| 1 | Most men cause their dating issuesNo single mothers, no fat women, no high n count women, no women over 30 No single fathers, no fat men, no socially awkward virgins, no brokies etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 02:36 PM |
| 6 | Single mothers lie about having raised their standards after having a baby?Of course. Being saddled with a little kid will decrease your desirability significantly, you obviously won't be able to attract the same kind of guy as when you didn't have a kid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 01:15 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about instagram comment sections on dating reels?It's obvious that they are talking about the Chads, Tyrones, Joses and Changs. Those guys don't put much effort because frankly they don't need to. The guys who are willing to put a lot of effort happen to not be Chads, Tyrones, Joses and Changs, so it's a non-starter. The ship has sunk before it left the harbor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 01:09 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Men love sluts. They’re just ashamed of themselves, so they berate sluts due to their own hurt ego.Sluts are fine for the short term, but not for the long term. Just because you want to fuck them doesn't mean you hold them in high esteem and want to date them. Just like some men visit prostitutes, but don't want to date/marry prostitutes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/23 11:39 PM |
| – | People are so naive when it comes to marriageToo expensive for a brokie like me. I am just waiting for my career in comedy to take off, then I might be able to afford it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/23 11:32 PM |
| – | People are so naive when it comes to marriageYes my peepee might be thunderous, but it's also only 3 inches. It is what it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/23 09:52 PM |
| – | People are so naive when it comes to marriageyou are too smart and brave You forgot to also mention "stunning". Can't have brave without stunning nowadays. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/23 07:00 PM |
| 4 | One of the biggest mistakes men make is marrying women who want to be SAHMsNah, assuming the man can afford it, there are plenty of benefits of having a SAHM. She raises the kids and keeps the home and the family tight. If you aren't raising your kids, someone else will. Best case scenario, it will be the grandparents, if they are available. Worst case scenario, it will be random strangers that will do the absolute minimum in order to get paid, who might also have hidden agendas and questionable intentions. Also, there will be less conflict. The man works and brings mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/23 06:50 PM |
| 3 | Married people give crappy dating adviceDepends on how recently married. 5 years? Alright. 20 years? Yeah, not the people to ask for advice. We barely had internet back then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 03:56 PM |
| 0 | This explains a lot: Majority of Women declined sex due to body insecurities, dating app findsOr maybe any woman who puts a decent amount of effort in her appearance takes care of the hairy parts on a frequent basis? Maybe most men don't like hairy legs? Nah, probably I am trippin', I've just ended a 48 hour porn marathon. What do I know after all, Lizzo is a supermodel nowadays. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 03:18 PM |
| 2 | This explains a lot: Majority of Women declined sex due to body insecurities, dating app findsI don't care and I certainly don't want to imagine it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 03:12 PM |
| 2 | This explains a lot: Majority of Women declined sex due to body insecurities, dating app findshealthy perspective on human bodies one look at your history I'll simply disengage here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 03:11 PM |
| 1 | This explains a lot: Majority of Women declined sex due to body insecurities, dating app findsNah, most guys actually have standards. If you like your girl's legs as hairy as your legs, go ahead. Me personally I think I'll pass, chief. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 03:03 PM |
| 7 | This explains a lot: Majority of Women declined sex due to body insecurities, dating app findsDepends on the length and how prominent they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 10:17 AM |
| 24 | This explains a lot: Majority of Women declined sex due to body insecurities, dating app findsSounds plausible, but then you read things like this: 61 percent of men have never been turned off by their partner's body hair I don't know, man. Hairy legs, arms, armpits, a mustache can be a huge turnoff to most guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 09:40 AM |
| 1 | Men and women have the same attitude toward attractionThe attractive few date the attractive few. Well you clearly don't take into account gold diggers and rich guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 08:57 AM |
| 1 | More women (than men) are seen as attractive by other women, because the standard of what passes as attractive man is higher and unforgivingWomen have makeup and heels, so they can improve their facial attractiveness to some degree and heels make them look more impressive, particularly the lower half of their bodies. The female equivalent of male height when it comes to women is probably boobs, and a boobjob is generally a cheap routine procedure with minimal risks compared to leg extension surgery which is very expensive with a ton of risks. Women quite simply have more tools with low barrier of entry to improve their attractivenes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 08:54 AM |
| 7 | Thoughts on the idea that for women attracting men is less about what you are but what do you ?For sex? Absolutely. For longterm? Not really. Men are quite picky about looks when there is heavy investment involved, if you don't meet their specific threshold, it's unlikely anything will happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 07:54 AM |
| – | Telling women that looks fade isn't much of a "threat".It's not a threat, it's just reality. Looks go down, desirability goes down. Do you think there are any supermodels walking around with mediocre looking brokies? Obviously not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 10:41 AM |
| 1 | 9-10s are for recreational use onlyWhatever helps you sleep at night, man. | /r/TheRedPill | 13/10/23 07:42 AM |
| 1 | 9-10s are for recreational use onlyMost hot women aren't influencers or IG models or heavily engage in degeneracy. Also, statistically, a very desirable woman will probably sleep around less, just because she can more easily lock down a desirable guy than a less desirable woman, so she won't have to jump from situationship to situationship all the time. I think the "9s and 10s are for recreational use only" is a huge cope. A woman's character has little to do with her beauty. Beauty provides more options and opportunity obviously… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/10/23 05:07 AM |
| 1 | CMV More and more young Men are realising that Looks is the Number 1 Factor for Dating Success in a developed Country. Its actually kinda crazy if you compare it to the old days.Women don't drool over Musk, but Musk can technically get any woman he wants just based on his money. 50 IG models orgy in a yacht? He can do it. Have 10 more kids with hot gold diggers? He can do that as well. He can replace any woman with a younger hotter model, rinse and repeat till the day he dies. "Genuine desire" as redpill calls it is like at the very bottom of his list. I don't think people like Musk care about those things or what women want, they only care about what they themselves wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 04:02 AM |
| 1 | CMV More and more young Men are realising that Looks is the Number 1 Factor for Dating Success in a developed Country. Its actually kinda crazy if you compare it to the old days.Most people are in the normal range of looks. Being more attractive will get you more swipes on dating apps, but accounts very little for real life success. None of you have sex regularly or have approached attractive women in the wild so your words are all hot air. Makes sense. People who are more attractive are of a sespefic genetic phenotype of person, they have much much, higher probability of genetic selectivity and are much less likely to be free and open to dating down. This make sense as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 03:45 AM |
| 13 | CMV More and more young Men are realising that Looks is the Number 1 Factor for Dating Success in a developed Country. Its actually kinda crazy if you compare it to the old days.Interesting is i work with many young People and i am myself 23, and interesting is that 95% off them ATLEAST believe Looks is a key factor Probably true. most are in the rabbit holes off Looksmaxxing and all this other Looks lingo. Cap. Men are extremely charitable about a woman's looks, when it comes to short term, but they are doing almost zero charity when it comes to long term, contrary to what redpill/blackpill claims. Women, on the other hand, are doing zero charity on looks when it comes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 10:14 AM |
| 2 | Asking modern women to treat all the men they date equally is illogical.When religion, traditional values and lifelong monogamy were strong and people paired up early, the dating market used to lean more towards communism. Now that religion is on its last legs, traditional values have greatly been eroded and lifelong monogamy starts to becoming a fairytale, the dating market has started leaning more towards capitalism. People just act out of self interest. Women will bang Chad/Tyrone after a couple of beers on a slow Tuesday, but they'll make the "husband material p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 09:52 AM |
| 5 | How important is having sex to having a happy and healthy lifestyle ?Very important for the vast majority of people, especially guys. Otherwise you'd see way more monks in the monasteries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 09:37 AM |
| 1 | AF/BB is true and it's a rational strategy for womenafter puberty ends I think I was pretty clear on this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 08:09 PM |
| 1 | So who is really trying to fool themselves? Red or Blue?Nah I don't think red pillers think being high status, or hot, or really wealthy, or very socially competent, or very good at bed, or whatever, can guarantee 100% that you'll be safe. For example, you can be the best at everything, but if you pick the wrong woman you'll still get fucked. But being all those things certainly decreases your chances of getting fucked. But between blue pill and red pill, the red pill is definitely closer to the truth. Blue pill is basically too much optimism and thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 03:42 PM |
| 10 | Women judge men based on how popular they are with other women which leads to a cycle where a few fuckboys get to pump and dump many womenHerd mentality is very common among humans, even more common among women. That's also why preselection has some merit when it comes to woman's attraction, not so much when it comes to a man's attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 03:32 PM |
| 0 | Men are so afraid to be settled for because they know they are settling themselvesThey’re nice memories, yes, but you have to accept that there’s more than one nice girl out there. I know you may think this won’t affect your future with your further partner, but either way, it will — consciously or subconsciously. Women can sense when they’re second-place to somebody. I’m honestly only saying this in your best interest. It’s time to let go Good advice, you should also give it to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 02:04 PM |
| 1 | Men are so afraid to be settled for because they know they are settling themselvesAverage age of marriage for women is ~27-28 and men ~29-30, so assuming they've dated for like 3 years before marrying which is a good estimate, they got with the women when those were young, as in 24-25. So not quite 20-23, but pretty close. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 01:29 PM |
| – | Red pills need to replace anger with acceptance of their diminished placeYeah, but I still couldn't resist replying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 01:06 PM |
| 5 | You can't say you we're lied to.Work out, dress better and get some cosmetic work done, that's what. Also grow bigger balls, put yourself out of your comfort zone, socialize more and make it a priority, play the numbers game basically. Now obviously if you're hideous, even that might not work, at that point I can unfortunately offer no solutions. Prioritize stellar personality, emotional connection and compatibility doesn't work. The lizard brain is too strong. That's just the reality of the situation. I heavily doubt there ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 01:04 PM |
| 3 | You can't say you we're lied to.I wasn't only talking specifically about media. You have plenty of parents pushing the "Be kind, be nice, be yourself, get a good job, personality is all that matters". Being good is obviously good. But it makes zero difference when it comes to women. "Be yourself" can be good advice, but it's also terrible advice a lot of the time. If you are introverted, shy, socially awkward, bad looking etc and you care to be successful with women even a little, then don't fucking be yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 12:14 PM |
| 5 | You can't say you we're lied to.Media is promoting that kids should chop off their peepees if they feel like it nowadays. The fact that looks matter a lot in dating is far more benevolent in comparison. However, it'll never happen. Everything that is promoted is strictly to push certain agendas. Everything is fueled by money and everything they promote is to make the people behind the scenes even more money. Having naive ignorant unaware beytas working 9-5 average jobs keeps things running and their pockets full. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 12:04 PM |
| 0 | AF/BB is true and it's a rational strategy for women"My agenda" Lmao. Fine make it 21 or 25, if that is more easily digestible. My point still stands. Higher hormone levels, higher sex drive and thus desire to reproduce peak early, not in your 30s. Same obviously applies to guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 11:16 AM |
| 1 | AF/BB is true and it's a rational strategy for womenSure, but the alpha doesn't want to marry them, or even get in a serious relationship with them, that's the issue here. There are very few alphas, and they will either enjoy a wide variety of women or pick the most desirable women. The rest of the women are stuck with the betas. Also, just because he is hot doesn't mean he is way too much into his looks or that he is a narcissist. Working out, dressing well and getting a haircut are very basic things most people do. The difference is that he als… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 11:10 AM |
| 4 | AF/BB is true and it's a rational strategy for womenIn this world apparently. A woman's estrogen and testosterone levels peak after puberty ends up to like mid 20s, maybe in a few cases late 20s, then decline with age, rapidly decline after 50(due to menopause). Women getting hornier with age is just the same cap as men getting hornier wih age. Hormones peak early, certainly not in your 30s or 40s or whatever. Your facts are clearly not so much facts, are they? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 11:00 AM |
| 7 | AF/BB is true and it's a rational strategy for womenWomen biologically have a shorter fertility window, that's just a fact of life. Al Pacino just had a kid at like 83, no women in the recorded history of mankind has ever managed that. That being said, the "biological clock ticking" is mostly conscious thinking. Women have higher hormones, both estrogen and testosterone, when they are young, so an 18 year old woman is most likely going to have higher sex drive, basically the lizard brain making you want to reproduce and have kids, than a 30 year … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 10:28 AM |
| 1 | AF/BB is true and it's a rational strategy for womenIn this case, alpha means a guy who is hot(good looking, tall, jacked, well endowed etc.) and very socially competent(balls, charisma, good social skills and maybe elevated social status in a given group/environment). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 10:00 AM |
| 3 | To the Guys who think Girls only want Hot GuysMost of the guys are famous celebrities, and most of them are good looking. Nothing to discuss here, folks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 07:00 AM |
| 1 | Red pills need to replace anger with acceptance of their diminished placeWhen you are both old and a fatass, maybe it's you who should accept your place. Your time to shine is long gone, fatassoldman. Don't go hating on younger more virile men, just because they have copious amounts of red pill rage, which will undoubtedly fuel their rapid ascent to greater heights... compared to lazy unaware bluepill simp-etons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 06:58 AM |
| 1 | Red pills need to replace anger with acceptance of their diminished placeFactually incorrect. Almost everyone can sleep with models and young women, assuming he has a little bit of money and can straight up pay for it. Now if we're talking about dating them and them being really attracted to you, then you're correct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 06:38 AM |
| 8 | You can't say you we're lied to.Gym, cosmetic work and plastic surgery. Assuming you have some time, money and are willing to put in a lot of effort, everyone can get significantly more attractive. Focus on socializing(obviously) and then go all in on looks, disregard materialistic things. If the ROI when it comes to getting punani is better by heavily investing in your looks, then just drive a 10 year old toyota and rent a one bedroom apartment, and go all in when it comes to looks. It's that simple really. Half of the US is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 06:19 AM |
| 0 | Can't even blame em.I mean sure, noone is denying that. However, that's fine and dandy if you're looking for something short term, but what if you're looking for something long term? Not only you'll fry your dopamine receptors, but also humans are allergic to downgrades once they've had enough of the good stuff. So ultimately, long term, it's a loss for everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 05:59 AM |
| – | Tinder SelectIf you were already a top tier male and already successful on Tinder, nothing really changes and it's not needed to pay for it. If you were not already successful on Tinder, then well, 10 times 0 is still 0. Just because you get more exposure, doesn't mean you'll get more matches. Unless the algorythm starts hiding the hot guys who don't pay for it and promotes the mediocre looking guys who pay for it. Then yeah, over a decent period of time, things might change. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 05:57 AM |
| 21 | A big deal about dating is that it feels like work for men, and work is never fun!The fun is the bedroom action, which is obviously not guaranteed at all. The burden of performance in the initial interactions always lies on the guy. Not really a fun endeavor, especially if you always have to put a lot of effort into it and you have to do it again and again and again, with slim chances of success. Women will tell you that they put effort as well in the form of makeup or whatever. But that implies men don't put much effort in their appearance at all, which is obviously not true… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 06:18 AM |
| 2 | I think men's compliments are fakeYou can never be 100% certain. But generally if a guy puts a good amount of effort and goes the extra mile, it's highly likely that he is indeed interested in the woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 04:56 AM |
| 5 | romantic relationship is a privilege not a right, i think understand that would solve a lot of issues between men and womenYou try to sound profound, but your logic is flawed. Following that thinking process, nothing is a right, everything is a privilege. Food, water, money etc. All privileges granted by modern society, to some more than to others. Once you remove sex, romantic relationships and reproduction from the table, most people simply won't bother much with contributing to society at all. It's not about a privilege, or a right, it's about basic biological needs to function properly. Just like a homeless star… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 03:51 AM |
| 4 | How come there aren’t as many women into fat guys as there are men into fat women?You assume that there are many guys who are into fat women. That's quite simply not true at all. A small minority that have a fat fetish might be into them or men who have very few to no options out of necessity, but it's certainly not a lot of guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 03:26 AM |
| 0 | I think men's compliments are fakeMen want to fuck. They'll obviously overcompliment a woman to seduce her. Most women get compliments, but most women aren't really that attractive, they're just average. If a guy went around saying "you're okay-ish", do you think any woman would want to sleep with him? Probably not. There is a certain level of subterfuge and a few white lies that need to be employed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 03:20 AM |
| 8 | How important is “virginity” to men?The lower the bodycount, the better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 03:13 AM |
| 1 | Why is Hannah "Pearl" Davis of Justpearlythings still single?Just because some people like what Pearl says it doesn't mean they want to date her lmao. Whatever she actually believes what she says or not is irrelevant, she's mostly doing all this to fill her own pockets, just like most content creators. Also, she's not a desirable woman. Very tall, mediocre looking, and she has admitted she's engaged in hookup culture. Of course there won't be desirable men lining up to be with her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/23 02:42 AM |
| 6 | CMV : personality is just as shallow a reason to be with somebody as looksMost of your personality is influenced by genes. And by the time you're an adult, once you've had all the formative experiences, your personality is kinda set in stone at that point. You can't change it to any significant degree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/23 04:03 PM |
| 7 | Discussion : Am I wrong in saying I’m noticing more attractive men settling for less attractive women these days?Anecdotal at best. Certainly doesn't align with my own anecdotal observations. You rarely see a hot guy with a plain looking girl. A plain looking guy with a hot girl is significantly more common in comparison. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/23 04:51 AM |
| 0 | This subreddit seems to greatly exaggerate how likely casual sex is to evolve into anything moreMen are on average more sex focused than relationship focused. Women are on average more relationship focused than sex focused. That's just a fact. Most women who engage in casual sex aren't doing it because they enjoy sport fucking. They are getting in casual situationships hoping to eventually lock the guy down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 12:41 PM |
| 1 | People here are too quick to dismiss men's lived experience when they tell you many average men peak later in life.For short term potential? Men peak in their 20s, that's just a fact. For long term potential? Obviously 30s. But having more options later in life doesn't mean much. The odds are good but the goods are odd. The qualities and traits men value for longterm are significantly scarcier in the 30+ group. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 10:18 PM |
| – | Since more women are working now than ever, and casual dating is more acceptable now than ever, will we see more “trophy husbands/ boyfriends” in the future, are we already there, or would women argue they would never tolerate a lesser man long term?You haven't read OP's post correctly then. OP clearly mentions "trophy husbands/boyfriends" and men who are hot bums who contribute nothing(financially at least). This means that the woman assumes full financial responsibility of the household and takes a leading role in the household. The difference is that men, assuming they make a lot of money of course, are way more willing to fully take care of and provide for a hot girl who will stay at home. The reverse just isn't as common, and I heavily… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 04:06 AM |
| 1 | Do men's options really go up with age and women's options drop ? I don't know if that's true.Average guy at 33 will have more options than average guy at 23. I am talking about fully average here, average looks, average social skills and average jobs. To what extent his options will increase and the quality of those options is up for debate though. Probably they won't increase significantly, and most of the options will be women around his age of meh physical appearance. But if he had 2 women to choose from and now he has 4 women to choose from, technically that's an increase in options… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 12:22 AM |
| 1 | Does tattoos increase men SMV to high quality girls?My stance on tattoos is simple: You should never put stickers on a ferrari. That being said, tattoos work for both high quality and low quality women. Darktriad/badboymaxxing is effective when dealing with both groups of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 10:40 AM |
| 3 | Since more women are working now than ever, and casual dating is more acceptable now than ever, will we see more “trophy husbands/ boyfriends” in the future, are we already there, or would women argue they would never tolerate a lesser man long term?It might increase a bit, but not much. Women greatly desire hot guys, but they also greatly desire princess treatment. Those two things can't coexist if the woman is the one who is doing the providing and is taking the leading role in the household. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 10:33 AM |
| 24 | Ever notice how it's always AI girlfriends in the news? Why not AI boyfriends?The market decides. There is simply not a significant enough market for AI boyfriends. Otherwise you'd find a lot of those. Money talks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 06:34 AM |
| 1 | This video proves what a lot of guys complain about is real.Well of course the game has changed. Getting a phone and creating a social media profile has a very low barrier of entry in today's society. And it can give you immense exposure and reach potentially. Here is an example. You have Adriana Lima, one of the world's most famous supermodels. To become a supermodel she had to a)get lucky and be born with the right genes, and b)get lucky and get scouted. At that point in time, there were plenty of women living in a shithole of a hometown around the glo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 03:29 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Hypergamy doesn't make senseI half-agree with this. Physical attributes are significantly more valued now than in the past. However, for some reason women with money still try to get with men who have even more money. The rich woman with the broke model looking trophy husband hasn't become substantially more popular, at least as of now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 03:20 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Hypergamy doesn't make senseThe idea is that women are only sexually attracted to men who impress them in some way (superior men), hence hypergamy. Men, on the other hand, could be sexually attracted to a woman who is inferior to him in every way, although when faced with the choice for only one woman to have a monogamous sexual relationship with, men are certainly going to try to sexually optimize and find the most attractive woman that they can. Concise and precise. Men inherently are programmed to want to maximize the s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 03:12 AM |
| 4 | Why does this sub look at men willing to date single moms so negatively?If someone wants to date one, it's not anyone else's business. Not my chair, not my problem. Most people here just advise against it, because in the vast majority of cases it's a bad deal for the guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 03:04 AM |
| 7 | The only reason you hear so many women say that men overrate their appearance is because they are projecting, as any balanced individual can clearly see women do this infinitely more than men.You NEVER see a mediocre looking man trying to be a model or post narcissistic selfies thinking they are a prize or for validation. That's definitely true. Average looking men would never act like they were superior to or reject women in their own league. In fact they frequently are very self aware of their capabilities and usually simp for women far less attractive than them, and that goes for men in general. That's not true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 08:13 PM |
| 3 | CMV After a Certain Looks Level, "more looks" gives diminishing returns.Women generally operate on a three bracket system, just based on looks/presence alone in the first few seconds after she sees you: a)hell nah, b)maybe and c)hell yeah. If you are in the "hell yeah" category, in her mind she probably finds you very attractive. In that bracket, you barely have to try to get her. You have to intentionally try to screw it up or be very incompetent in general. If you are in the "maybe" category, in her mind she probably finds you above average. In that bracket, you h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 08:05 PM |
| 2 | Age gap relationships (18f, 20+m)Younger women are hotter, more fertile and have less baggage on average compared to older women. That's it really. And given your example of 18 and 25, yeah the fertility and physical appearance difference might be slim, but the baggage difference can be very very significant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 07:39 PM |
| 2 | Discussion : Whats the bigger problem, obviously unattractive guys struggling or above average guys now struggling as much as below average guys?A percentage of guys are undesirable and they'll always do bad with women. That's how it's always been, even in monogamous societies. It only starts becoming a problem when the average guys, ~70% of the male population, are starting to struggle, because those are the majority of the male population. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 07:30 PM |
| 4 | How do you explain most young women being in relationships?Some of them are dating older guys. Some of them "think" they are in a relationship, but they are actually in a short term situationship with a dude, who is probably involved with multiple women simultaneously. And the dude probably considers himself not being in a relationship with any of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 07:26 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Virtually all men will eventually get sex/relationships, it's just happening later than it used toTheoretically almost all men can get sex and relationships at any age. There is probably some granny that is willing to fuck an unattractive socially awkward 20 year old virgin. The problem isn't getting someone, the problem is getting someone you're satisfied with. All the good ones are snatched early, after a certain age it's slim pickings, that's just the reality of the situation. I assume a lot of guys see putting in effort and hard work as pointless when what is awaiting for them at the end… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 12:06 AM |
| 1 | Do women value earning potential over intelligence and/or morality/ethical values?I don't think it's a surprise, most people inherently know that looks and money are at the top. Good genes and resources basically. I think when women say they want someone "intelligent" and "ambitious", they just mean they want a guy with a lot of cash, not that they inherently value those traits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 10:03 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Muscle is cheap, and in 2023 women value genuinely rare immutable traits, such as height and faceThe most standard type of guy who seems to get attractive women are tall, tattooed and beard. That was my experience in university as well. Tall, tattoos, beard, dark hair and the usual fuckboi haircut(buzzed on the sides with a fade and longer hair on top). Just like IG models have the "instagram look" and all look the same, the desirable guys all looked like that as well. And everyone was trying to imitate it lmao. That being said, having a great physique is neither cheap nor common. I mean te… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 08:27 PM |
| 1 | Beggars can’t be choosers"Monkey dance" as in "putting a lot of effort" I assume? Well, that's true. Most men will put significantly more effort when trying to get a hotter woman. Higher effort and higher risk for higher reward basically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 01:57 AM |
| 1 | If It isn't too high standards the reason men are lonely, but cOrN, why would men seek corn to begin with?Best case scenario, porn has nothing to do with it. Worst case scenario, it's a chicken or the egg situation and you can't really come to a conclusion easily. Most young guys are full of hormones and have high sex drives. Obviously everyone prefers the real thing, that's not even debatable. But if you try and don't get it, you'll eventually jerk off. Noone can go celibate without sexual release for too long, except monks and guys whose dicks don't work at all or something. Porn is free, and jerk… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 12:34 AM |
| 5 | Yes, muscles will get you laid.Nah, just like everyone knows someone who is over 6'0 or someone who makes 100k/year, everyone also knows some guy with a good physique. Go to any venue and you'll notice plenty of guys with nice physiques. Unless we are talking about ultra jacked and use of steroids. Then obviously far fewer. But I don't think at that point the reward outweighs the risk. I heavily doubt most women want someone with copious amounts of muscle mass anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 12:19 AM |
| 2 | Beggars can’t be choosersThat sounds like a nice fairy tale. The reality is that men are just more willing to compromise. An average girl might as well be repulsive compared to a supermodel, yet guys will still take her. Unless you think average guys desire the average woman as much as a supermodel, that's simply delusional. Ultimately most people's goal is to have family and kids, and you need two people for that usually. The "Men desire women more than women desire men" doesn't work in this case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 12:14 AM |
| 1 | Today a London schoolgirl was murdered for refusing to go out with her classmateYeah, I have plenty of anecdotes of women killing men as well. No amount of strength can beat a bullet or an armed ambush with a sharp weapon. The reality is that fake numbers and false hope is this particular case wouldn't work either. The guy was mentally ill and they were still classmates and in the immediate vicinity of each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 12:06 AM |
| -1 | The real reason men laud “players” and shame sluts is…One is easy, the other is hard. A self made billionaire will get far more respect than a billionaire who just inherited his money. It is what it is. Also, there is also a biological component. Women who enjoy novelty a bit too much might get pregnant from some other guy and have you raise his spawn. Not a good deal at all for the guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 11:58 PM |
| 9 | Yes, muscles will get you laid.There are a lot of tall guys? 15% is 6'+ and only 4% is 6'2+. Not a lot of tall guys at all. There are a lot of handsome guys? A guy that is highly facially attractive is like top 2-3%, if facial attractiveness follows normal distribution. Guys with good physiques are rare as well, compared to the general population. I'd say less than 5% of guys are willing to work out consistently for 5+ years in order to get a great physique. That being said, while a good physique offers a moderate advantage, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 11:53 PM |
| 2 | Its called "hooking up" because in misogynist fashion, women are seen as an object to conquer, and not as actual partners.Chad doesn't have to lie or trick anyone in order to get sex. So you're wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 11:46 PM |
| 2 | Many women, by believing in "their worth", believe unattractive men aren't worthy enough, which is kind of a contradictionThe market dictates your worth in this particular market. That's all there is to it. "Believing" has nothing to do with anything. It's pure delusion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 11:42 PM |
| – | CMV People that dont have real life Experience/functioning Social Life should not talk about Dating Strategy, it is just annoying how deluded those takes are.a 6'5 goodlooking Mcdonalds worker has more SMV then a average looking Premier League Soccer Player Depends on the guy's goals and what he is looking for. A really hot young guy who makes average money has higher chances of getting a low bodycount loyal hot girl if he wants family and kids, quite simply because he can get to her far earlier. The soccer player can probably bang more instathots, but he will be stuck with gold diggers and clout chasers most likely. Status like insta followers etc d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/23 08:06 PM |
| 13 | Women’s preferences in men aren’t as unique as they think they areIdeally they want tall, handsome, fit with big peepee. "Different types" usually has to do with fashion style, skin color, beard or no beard, glasses or no glasses, tattoos or no tattoos. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/23 07:37 PM |
| 1 | Tinder is offering a $778-per-month subscription for 'exceptional connections'Its billionaire founders want to double their net worth. | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/09/23 06:54 PM |
| 3 | A perfect example of how cucked our society is can be seen in the number of mediocre-ugly female “sex symbols” we haveYou might have had a case if you didn't mention Jolie. Angelina Jolie was one of the hottest women alive back in the day. Now she's 50 obviously. You can easily say the same thing about quite a few male "sex symbols" like Gosling for example. | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/09/23 06:53 PM |
| 1 | Which matters more?Face matters more as long as you're the same height or more when the woman is wearing heels. If not, then height matters more. | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/09/23 06:46 PM |
| 5 | Do women value earning potential over intelligence and/or morality/ethical values?I don't know man. He mentioned the study on his channel on some video, or perhaps when he was on F&F, I don't remember. I am simply not willing to put in effort right now to go find it. The tl;dr the conclusion was that "attractive women want everything" and in order of importance sexy and successful were at the top, while kind and intelligent were at the bottom. If you think I am lying, that's fine lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 06:08 PM |
| 17 | Do women value earning potential over intelligence and/or morality/ethical values?Psyhacks mentioned a study titled "what attractive women want" or something along those lines. The traits at the top of the list were "sexy"(probably meaning physically attractive) and "successful". The two traits at the bottom of the list were "intelligent" and "kind". Tells you all you need to know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 05:38 PM |
| 60 | CMV: Dating is heavily genetically determinedGenetics influence the majority of your physical appearance, your intelligence and your personality. By default they are the biggest factor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 04:07 AM |
| 1 | How come "nice girls finish last" isn't as popular of a saying?All else being equal, nice girls finish first actually. Now if we're talking about a significant difference in physical attractiveness, given the choice men will go for the hotter one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 03:58 AM |
| 9 | How come "nice girls finish last" isn't as popular of a saying?Nah, she's right about this. Between an attractive woman and a plain/ugly woman, the attractive woman wins every single time. Now if it was an nice 7 versus a mean 9, then yeah maybe you would have a point. Physical attractiveness has diminishing returns after a certain point after all. The notion that men want to fuck the hot ones and then end up with the mediocre ones is just plain delusion for two reasons. The men who can fuck the hot ones can easily afford to date/marry a hot one. The men wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 03:46 AM |
| 1 | Why can't people just be honest with men when it comes to online dating? You aren't getting 0 matches because your pictures are bad, you're getting no matches because you're ugly.That's true | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 10:22 PM |
| 10 | We live in an age of equality but women's sexuality still hasn't caught up.The reality is that most women lack the balls, charisma and willingness to approach, initiate, try to entertain, carry the initial interactions, plan and pay for the dates. Assuming the relationship develops and the woman makes good money, they are also generally unwilling to shoulder full financial responsibility, take a leading role in the house and take care of the guy, while he stays home with the kids. They are allergic to it. And the few that attempt it, usually change their mind and leave… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 07:12 PM |
| 5 | Why can't people just be honest with men when it comes to online dating? You aren't getting 0 matches because your pictures are bad, you're getting no matches because you're ugly.Sexually unsuccessful guys always existed. The problem is when average guys start having trouble. And rising violence won't be the major problem down the line, I heavily doubt it will rise to such degree that it will cause massive societal issues. The problem will be when men start disengaging and will be indifferent to society. The whole infrastructure is being carried by average joes, not male model looking CEOs. Also, the birth rates are plummeting and it will eventually affect the economy. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 06:53 PM |
| 2 | Men get destroyed by divorce because they view it as a moral failing. If men adopted the mentality "she's not yours, it's just your turn" they wouldn't get devastated by divorceIf your mentality is "she's not yours, it's just your turn", then there is no reason to marry at all. If marriage doesn't come with a sense of permanence, then why would anyone even engage in it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 06:36 PM |
| 8 | Why should a man not date younger women given the opportunity?You're offered two suitcases full of money and you can pick one for free. One has 1 million dollars. The other has 5 million dollars. Only an absolute fool would pick the one that has 1 million dollars fearing that he might look "greedy". The 5 million dollar one is a no brainer. There are no reasons not to date a younger hotter woman given the choice, unless she has serious character flaws and a really bad track record. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 02:38 AM |
| 0 | A woman's greatest value to a man is her trade value.A woman's currency is her youth, beauty and fertility. If properly invested, she'll get a loyal husband who'll carry her when all those things are gone. If not properly invested or completely wasted, she's most likely fucked if long term commitment is what she seeks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 02:33 AM |
| 5 | Am I wrong in saying that if a person has a requirement or preference that he wants a virgin partner but he himself is not a virgin that is not hypocritical?Women and men are different, looking for different things and prioritize different things. Is it hypocritical? Perhaps. But so is a 6'4 guy who only wants to date petite women, or a petite woman who only wants tall gus. Or a rich guy who is not good looking, but uses his money to date broke hot women. There are endless examples. Ultimately what matters is whether you have good chances of getting what you want or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/23 12:28 AM |
| 4 | The idea that « the bar is so low » for men is more and more prominent among women. Do you think that it’s true? Does it match reality?The bar is low when it comes to attitude, character, personality, things like that. The bar is high when it comes to superficial traits, like looks and to some extent money etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/23 06:18 PM |
| 8 | I feel like the red pill teaches the right things for the wrong reasonsFactual. A lot of guys would be fine living in a small apartment, having a couple of beers with a couple of friends here and there and playing video games(or whatever other hobby they have), if they had easy access to attractive women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/23 03:26 PM |
| 9 | I feel like the red pill teaches the right things for the wrong reasonsAll real men crave attractive pussy, it's in our genetic code. Look at all these scandals. If it wasn't true, you wouldn't have very well known politicians, celebrities and billionaires willing to stain their reputation and destroy their families just to get some young hot pussy. Maybe those aren't real men I guess. Maybe they are 12 year olds trapped in an older man's body I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/23 03:17 PM |
| 39 | I feel like the red pill teaches the right things for the wrong reasonsA lot of the things men do is just to get access to pussy. Pussy is one of the biggest if not the biggest motivator. That's just reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/23 01:50 AM |
| 1 | Most women with green flags are boring and men don't actually want them.If a guy doesn't find the woman physically attractive, her green flags don't matter. It's obvious. If he finds the woman attractive, and that woman is boring but has green flags, then most men would pick her over an attractive more exciting woman who is promiscuous and has tons of red flags. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/23 01:47 AM |
| – | Should men be expected to intervene when random women are in trouble?I'll call 911 or something, and maybe I'll try to help, but only if the attackers are gone. Otherwise, yeah I am peacing the fuck out, I am not looking to get stabbed myself, especially for the sake of some random stranger. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 11:11 PM |
| – | Should men be expected to intervene when random women are in trouble?If I see random strangers in trouble, whether it's men or women, I keep walking. I am not going to risk my life and put myself in danger for some random stranger I don't even know. At best I might call the cops before I keep walking. It's better if well trained armed professionals handle that shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 05:26 PM |
| 3 | Musings about Age GapsDebating age gap is pointless. Every imbalance and exploitation you can think of can also exist in couples of similar age as well. Ultimately, every relationship is inherently transactional, whether it's material or immaterial resources that are transacted. You want something. The other person wants something. As long as both get what they want, it's fair play. You can have 5 apples and exchange them for 5 apples or 3 apples and 2 oranges or 5 oranges or whatever. The older person isn't necessar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 03:36 PM |
| – | Most women are invisible to straight men just like how most men are also invisible to womenThe result is already predetermined in the vast majority of cases, that's the thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 02:46 PM |
| 2 | Men do not reward loyaltyMen absolutely reward loyalty. You see all these billionaires with average wives, what do most of them have in common? They got with the guy early and supported him before he became a billionaire. And that's how they ended up with a billionaire. Now whether some of the billionaires cheat on the side I don't know, I am not keeping 24/7 watch on them, but from what I see, they haven't left their wives. However, if those women waited until the guy became a billionaire, then it's way way less likely… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 11:50 AM |
| 1 | Most women are invisible to straight men just like how most men are also invisible to womenNo it's not though. For example, a woman who is a 5 can have sex with a higher quality guy if she requires little effort and investment from the guy, but that's as far as it'll go. Relationship wise generally she's stuck with the 5s or below. Whether that woman actually decides to get in a relationship with a 5 or decides to stay single because she doesn't want those, that's up to her and it's irrelevant to this discussion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 11:11 AM |
| 1 | Most women are invisible to straight men just like how most men are also invisible to womenWomen have a way bigger dating pool when it comes to casual sex, but their relationship pool is the same size as a man's, and it even gets smaller later in life, like 40+. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 11:14 PM |
| 1 | If a woman in her 20s is not overweight is she automatically a 7 or above?Well then I guess I've seen different stats, because those claimed the obesity rates were similar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 06:26 PM |
| 2 | If a woman in her 20s is not overweight is she automatically a 7 or above?Factually incorrect. Men rate women on a trinary scale: wouldn't bang, would bang, and would date. The would bang and would date category aren't the same. One requires investment and the threshold of attractiveness is higher. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 06:21 PM |
| 2 | If a woman in her 20s is not overweight is she automatically a 7 or above?Copius maximus. Obesity is more or less the same for both genders. Is a young guy with ideal weight and a 3/10 face considered a 7? Not even remotely. So neither does a young woman with ideal weight and a 3/10 face. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 06:19 PM |
| 3 | Men.....You Should Do Everything You Can To WinPutting herculean effort and leveling up might be worth it if you eventually have high chances to get the result you desire, or something that approximates it at least. Otherwise, it's a pointless endeavor. And this applies to all areas in life. For example: You have 0 dollars in the bank. You really want a car. You go look for cars and the cheapest car you'll be satisfied with costs 20k. So you start working hard and earn money to be able to afford it. But if you can't get to 20k, then your eff… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 05:10 PM |
| – | The dating game has changedWe'll see the rise of a new breed of man. A guy who gets plastic surgery, wears makeup, wears shoe inserts and lifts and uses steroids. If the ROI is better compared to putting effort, taking them to dinners, buying cars and houses, then this is what will eventually happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 04:46 PM |
| 1 | Don't mistake a man's lack of options for better moralsIntentions and thoughts don't matter much, because they don't affect physical reality. In a purely hypothetical situation, a guy getting with a hot chick and staying loyal to her because he 100% knows for certain he can't get another hot chick due to lack of options doesn't make him any less loyal than another guy who has options and is loyal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 04:36 PM |
| 1 | Getting sex isn't an accomplishment, or something to be ashamed ofWhat is considered an accomplishment and achievement depends on the individual's subjective interpretation. If it requires some time, effort and skill, and the person considers it an accomplishment, then for them it's an accomplishment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 04:28 PM |
| -1 | CMV: What I’ve Learned as an Average Guy Among Attractive FriendsSure you can turn yourself into the hot guy if your starting point is an average guy, at least in theory. Work out for years, get on steroids, you'll have a more impressive physique than at least 99% of the population. A fake tan will also make you look even crispier. Get shoe inserts and male boots to increase your height to some extent, maybe it's just 3-4 inches in total, but that can catapult you from 5'9 to 6'0-6'1, which is still plenty. And get cosmetic work done. Receded hairline? Finast… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 10:47 PM |
| 34 | Do women resent men who are late bloomers?Well, usually it's not planned and intentional, but they do it unconsciously. The primal lizard brain is the culprit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 07:10 PM |
| 1 | Prime age?Women have a shorter reproductive window. And men are not primarily or even secondarily selecting for resources/success, and that is the only thing that rises with age. So when a woman's beauty starts to fade, her desirability starts tanking as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 06:57 PM |
| 1 | Attractiveness vs Desirability of menBetabuxxing is a thing of the past. Plastic surgery, steroids, shoe lifts and make up is the future. Why bother buying a house or a car, when you'll see way better ROI by investing in your physical appearance! (I'm joking... kinda) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 06:50 PM |
| 50 | Do women resent men who are late bloomers?Women don't like losing potential simps and beta orbiters. Those people are her backup plan in case the relationship/marriage with her 1st choice goes downhill. Women have backup plan A, plan B, plan C, plan D and plan E. If you're a woman's 2nd, 3rd, 4th or even 5th choice, her backup plan essentially, she'll get at least somewhat pissed when she learns you found another woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 06:46 PM |
| 10 | Is the vitriol against promiscuous women a tactic to convince women to not sleep around?Not particularly innovative but the guy pulled in more than 2billion views on Twitter in less than a month. So clearly it's working. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 05:46 PM |
| 4 | Men over-estimate their attractiveness?True, but only partially. It's a matter of cost benefit analysis and the reward matching the risk involved. Women and men aren't playing the same game. Women are playing the passive game in the vast majority of times. Men are supposed to be the ones who get stuff done or nothing will happen, again in the vast majority of cases. Think of it like this. You have two guys. One is attractive, the other is less attractive. If the attractive guy doesn't act, his failure is almost guaranteed. The other … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 12:29 PM |
| 9 | Men over-estimate their attractiveness?"I know a lot of bigger women who are very openly confident and showy about their looks and would rate themselves 10/10 of you asked, but also seem to have a decent perception of how attractive others find them when you really get down to it" Easy to spot the contradiction here. Those women aren't confident, they are delusional. Openly thinking you're a 10 is peak fantasy. Sure you might be fat, deformed, whatever, and someone somewhere might find you attractive because they have a fetish, but t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 12:23 PM |
| 7 | Men over-estimate their attractiveness?"If men knew their leagues very well, there would not be such a discrepancy in the men that either approach me or confess their feelings towards me." Or maybe they were actually aware of it and were just shooting their shot. The reason for that is simple. If the man is expected to put in the work, approach somebody and risk rejection, initiate and carry all the initial interactions, plan and pay for dates, obviously he will take the top down approach. He'll start from the hottest women and work … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 12:16 PM |
| 38 | Men over-estimate their attractiveness?Well, I've never met a short fat guy who was claiming he was hot shit. I've met quite a few women of similar size claiming they were hot shit. Purely anecdotal though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 12:12 PM |
| 1 | Do alpha males believe in monogamy?Because they want a tight family and kids and usually marriage is the price of admission. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 12:09 PM |
| 1 | Do alpha males believe in monogamy?The vast majority of men, if they are brutally honest, prefer to have many women over just one woman when it comes to sex. One wife/girlfriend and a few mistresses strictly for sex is the ideal scenario. Does an arrangement like that work flawlessly though? Not in the vast majority of cases. Just look at all these celebrities who are fucking around, they eventually get divorced within 5-8 years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 11:35 AM |
| 2 | Do male sex workers, male escorts, actually exist for women? are there women in the world that actually pay for sex?Women rarely if ever pay for sex. A mediocre looking woman, unless she's very old, can easily find a decent looking guy to fuck her. Gay men are the ones who actually pay for male escorts. If I were to take a guess, I'd say 90% of the clients that are looking for male escorts are men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 11:30 AM |
| 1 | Most men simply want women at or even slightly below their level of attractiveness, or just one who isn’t overweight. Most women feel entitled to men way more attractive than them and meet a whole laundry list of criteria. The whole “neckbeard wants supermodel” narrative is fictional projection.Handsome, buff and confident dude marrying an overweight woman? Oh, c'mon, dude, we both know that's cap. It might happen rarely, but constantly? No way. The reason is quite simple. That dude can fuck hotter women easily, without even investing much time and money. Why would he even entertain one of those overweight ones, especially for marriage? Zero reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 01:05 AM |
| 3 | CMV: successful men do care about womens’ careersThat's fine, chief. More hotties for us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/23 09:30 PM |
| 3 | Would you rather date a 21 year old and pay for everything or date a women over 30 who splits things 50/50?Assuming I have the money to do so and assuming the 21 is hotter and has less baggage, then absolutely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/23 08:58 PM |
| 4 | Most men simply want women at or even slightly below their level of attractiveness, or just one who isn’t overweight. Most women feel entitled to men way more attractive than them and meet a whole laundry list of criteria. The whole “neckbeard wants supermodel” narrative is fictional projection.Men date across and up in looks when it comes to LTR/marriage. What you are saying is factually incorrect. I don't know where you live but where I live you'll rarely see a guy with a less attractive chick, the opposite is much more common, and obviously most couples are of similar physical attractiveness. Men are only charitable when it's a cheap and easy fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/23 08:55 PM |
| 7 | CMV: successful men do care about womens’ careersA woman's career/money is close to the bottom in the list of priorities. If a guy makes average wage, or is broke, and really wants to have a family, then he might put some emphasis on it out of necessity. You can't raise a family with just 50k. But the more money a man makes, the less he cares about a woman's money. Men prioritize beauty by a significant margin, followed by character and personality. That's it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/23 07:56 PM |
| -1 | It is hard for wealthy and successful men to find good women for love and marriageTrust, prenup, trophy wife is the name of the game at that point. They just have to pay the price of admission. If it all goes downhill, then they won't lose a large portion of wealth, and they'd have already reproduced, so there is no reason for them to engage in signing legal documents ever again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 04:53 PM |
| 1 | Upper middle class men do care if you have an "education" or a "good job".Yeah ok, you act like the people in the vindicta sub from the quoted post have hung around the ultra wealthy(both "new" and "old" and anything in between) and have become experts on picking up these so called subtle cultural differences. Engineers/lawyers/doctors/whatever? Probably. But so have I. I might as well be as much of an expert as them, probably even more of an expert since I am a guy. | /r/RedPillWomen | 07/09/23 04:21 PM |
| 1 | Upper middle class men do care if you have an "education" or a "good job".I've never denied that there are billionaires who are products of generational wealth. It's just that the whole old money vs new money distinction looks silly to me. | /r/RedPillWomen | 07/09/23 04:07 PM |
| 1 | Upper middle class men do care if you have an "education" or a "good job".Alright, you make a good point when it comes to Saudi Royalty or Putin. But Prince William and Mr Biden are just figureheads and are sucking off Zuck the Cuck, Gates, Bezos and Musk at every opportunity. | /r/RedPillWomen | 07/09/23 03:52 PM |
| 5 | Listening to older women is actually beneficial to younger women when it comes to datingDepends on the older woman. The older woman who is married for 30 years with 3 kids? Yeah you'll probably want to listen to her. Some older lady who can't even keep a man, never married, never had kids? Yeah, you'll probably want to listen to her... if you want to end up exactly like her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Upper middle class men do care if you have an "education" or a "good job".But does William really wield more power and influence? I heavily doubt it. "Royalty" like William and "Politicians" like Biden are mostly figureheads and they only serve the interests of the dominant party and the various actually powerful individuals behind that party, like Bezos or Zuck the Cuck. | /r/RedPillWomen | 07/09/23 03:37 PM |
| 1 | Upper middle class men do care if you have an "education" or a "good job".I am lurking. Always waiting. | /r/RedPillWomen | 07/09/23 03:32 PM |
| -4 | What to make of the Joe Jonas-Sophie Turner divorce…What you see and what exactly is actually happening can be two completely different things. In my opinion, she was doing him dirty for quite some time now, this partying incident in Europe was probably the straw that broke the camel's back. Obviously I might be entirely wrong, but that's what my instincts tell me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 02:26 PM |
| -11 | What to make of the Joe Jonas-Sophie Turner divorce…She's probably been partying and cheating behind his back for quite some time now and neglected her responsibilities as a mother. It probably just took him some time to actually decide to file for divorce. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 02:09 PM |
| 0 | Upper middle class men do care if you have an "education" or a "good job".Incorrect. When it comes to a woman's education and career, most guys's position is usually neutral or even negative, rarely positive. What I mean by this is that a woman's high education and great career can't compensate for a lack of other more desirable traits in the vast majority of cases. On the flipside, a man's education and career can compensate to some extent, however even in that case the degree to how much he can compensate is debatable. The general rule of thumb is that if a guy make… | /r/RedPillWomen | 07/09/23 01:57 PM |
| 7 | The solution to the Deadbeat Dad is simple!Women already have easy access to birth control and abortion, so what are you saying really? Here is how you avoid a pregnancy: a)don't have sex, b)don't let him finish inside, c)use condoms, d)use contraceptive pills or have a diaphragm installed, e)plan b pill. If everything for some reason fails, then get an abortion, it's legal in most places, and if it isn't, then go somewhere where it is. Any man who doesn't want the kid, assuming he makes a little bit of money, will very be happy to pay f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 10:23 AM |
| 5 | Most men here aren't truly Red Pilled even when they say they areBeing redpilled means that you are aware of the truth. It's that simple really. Whether you use that knowledge to your advantage or not is irrelevant and doesn't make you any less redpilled. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 10:03 AM |
| 5 | Women are completely delusional when it comes to their physical appearance, yet they constantly suggest men are the ones overrating themselvesRyan Gosling might be a "10" if you factor in money and fame, but physically he is far from that. He is tall and has a good physique, but facially he is like a 6, not even remotely close to a 10. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 09:49 AM |
| 7 | Men should just refuse to get marriedYes and there are even stronger monetary penalties when you get divorced. Half of marriages end in divorce, average marriage lasts for 7-8 years or something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/23 10:59 AM |
| 1 | Which type of woman would be more difficult for a man to get?Depends on the guy. The guy is in his 40s, if he already has kids, then he doesn't need to even marry or cohabilitate. The hot woman in her 40s is a better option probably. If the guy really wants to have kids and these are hypothetically his only two options, then obviously the younger woman, since the other woman is past her reproductive years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/23 10:08 AM |
| 10 | Men should just refuse to get marriedWestern society is moving away from marriage, which is a good thing. Latest study shows marriage is down 60% compared to 50 years ago. Marriage can only exist when religion is very strong, society isn't promoting degeneracy and everyone takes their vows seriously. Since neither of these things applies to the modern age, marriage is a doomed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/23 09:58 AM |
| 1 | All else equal, young people are universally more attractiveWater is wet and sky is blue. Of course people are the most physically attractive when they are young. Unless someone was fat and ugly and then they became a gym rat and got tons of cosmetic work done, then they might be more attractive later in life I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 05:49 AM |
| 1 | Men will lie and say they won’t wife up a promiscuous girl or a girl with a past the same way women lie about their pastThere is always a cost benefit analysis happening. Same exact thing applies to single moms. A 9 with 2 kids can still get wifed up, but very rarely by another 9, it will probably be a 6 or something. Same thing applies to a 9 who has been run through by 100 dudes. Being the town's bicycle hurts your desirability to a significant extent. It's not that these women can't get a guy, it's that the guys they can get will most likely be inferior to what they could have gotten if they weren't the town's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 05:32 AM |
| 1 | To What Extent Are Attraction Standards Plastic?An ugly person might get with an ugly person out of necessity because they have little to no other options, but let's not pretend that someone being ugly magically makes them attracted to other ugly people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/23 03:05 PM |
| 1 | The truth is that majority of men won’t even approach/talk to women, yet they keep blaming them for the their lack of success.Expanding your social circle is the best way to go. Knowing more people will lead you to meet more people, thus meet more women. You'll also be in a more receptive environment and your chances will increase significantly. Approaching random women is a fool's errand for most guys. Even if they have good social skills, she'll be less receptive overall and the outcome will mostly depend on your level of physical attractiveness. So unless you have a lot of hours to waste and don't mind going through… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/23 02:54 PM |
| 2 | Being a "good person" or not has zero impact on your dating lifeBeing a "good person", a person of good moral character, might matter to some extent AFTER you get into a relationship. But it matters jack shit initially, and that's where most men struggle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/23 02:47 PM |
| 12 | Doctors warn US is barreling towards same fertility crisis as Japan - where one in 10 men in their 30s are VIRGINS and third of women will be childlessMaybe, or simply they are lying. Japan is in a far worse position compared to the US. It's the land where men marry sex dolls and 2D characters. Only 1 in 10 is a virgin in their 30s? I call CAP! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/23 10:07 PM |
| 20 | Doctors warn US is barreling towards same fertility crisis as Japan - where one in 10 men in their 30s are VIRGINS and third of women will be childlessI heavily doubt only 1 in 10 men in their 30s are virgins in Japan. It's probably twice or thrice that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/23 09:50 PM |
| 1 | ''Men peak at 50, Women peak at 18'' is technically true but extremely misleadingWhen it comes to overall desirability: women peak in their early to mid 20s, men peak in their late 20s to mid 30s. Both peak physically in their 20s. And noone peaks at anything at 50, unless he is a billionaire or something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/23 07:50 PM |
| 2 | ''Men peak at 50, Women peak at 18'' is technically true but extremely misleadingSo basically lots of 45-year-old women desperately trying to find a guy before its too late. "before it's too late"... like it's not too late at that age already. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/23 07:46 PM |
| 3 | Single mom is frustrated that no one wants to commit to her, so she reacts by stating how most moms think when looking for a partner.Take it or leave it. Thanks for the offer, but I'll pass. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 01/09/23 09:39 AM |
| 1 | If you’re too scared to talk to women, that’s natural selection at workNothing ventured, nothing gained. Applies to everything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/23 05:33 AM |
| 5 | “A man has never picked a woman based on how hard she worked to get into a relationship with him.”That's just a fact. If you are let's say a 5 in order to quantify it, you might be able to outcompete a 6 with extra effort, but you'll always lose to an 8. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/23 11:06 AM |
| 10 | “A man has never picked a woman based on how hard she worked to get into a relationship with him.”Putting effort gets you in more favorable position, but it can only go so far is what I am saying to you with my original comment. For the things you mentioned: The hotter woman wins because she is hotter, not because the other woman seems "desperate". He broke up with the previous woman for a reason(whatever that reason might be), he isn't going back. That's irrelevant. If he finds you hot enough according to his standards and holds you in high esteem due to your hopefully great character, then… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/23 11:02 AM |
| 13 | “A man has never picked a woman based on how hard she worked to get into a relationship with him.”I mean that's no secret. If a guy really wants you he'll go the extra mile again and again(within reason of course). If he doesn't really want you, he'll keep being vague and string you along. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/23 10:29 AM |
| 23 | “A man has never picked a woman based on how hard she worked to get into a relationship with him.”Hard work and putting in effort only helps you outcompete women of similar physical attractiveness to you or maybe slightly higher. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/23 10:17 AM |
| 3 | CMV: It's reasonable to want your partner to be "on your level" financially.Not really. You have to prioritize the traits you can't live without and compromise on the traits you can live without. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/23 10:03 AM |
| 0 | CMV: It's reasonable to want your partner to be "on your level" financially.The more traits you add to the list, the harder it'll be to get what you want. Women generally want: 1)hot, 2)rich, 3)socially competent(from having social status to having the balls/social skills/charisma to approach her, entertain her, plan and pay for dates and later take care of most of the financial responsibility if they get married), 4)good character(from values and morals to decision making skills and track record). Men generally care about: 1)hot and 2)good character. That's it. The mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/23 05:42 AM |
| 1 | Can a woman's attitude lower or cancel out her physical attractiveness?A 10 who is rude, entitled and has been railed by 100 guys instantly becomes a 6. We'll still bang though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/23 05:32 AM |
| 1 | You can't really determine your own level of beauty, that's not how it works.The market decides the product's value. If noone is buying, then the product is considered overpriced and you might want to consider lowering the price if you want people to start buying it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/23 05:28 AM |
| -1 | Men, Would You Rather Be Married To A Beautiful Woman Or Be Genuinely Attractive To Women However- ?Scenario #1 and it's not even remotely close. If the woman respects the guy, the sex is plentiful and the woman is 100% guaranteed to not cheat/leave, then men are fine with this arrangement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/23 05:22 AM |
| 2 | Why do men not like women "settling" for them if they are doing the same thing?Settling is fine, but the divorce laws greatly favor the woman and marriage has lost any sense of permanence. If the guy is the one who strays/leaves, then the woman gets rewarded for it, and rightfuly so. But even if the guy does everything right, the woman is still able to stray/leave him and still get rewarded for it in the divorce court. Not a good deal, that's why settling is bad. If they fixed the laws and marriage turned into a more temporary partnership with very set parameters, more peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/23 05:19 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Both men and women are equally attractive (bell curve), but women work harder on their looks because men are more visual, making dating harder for average guys on visual based dating apps.Women have makeup and heels available, men don't. Unless you want to be the guy who is going to be ridiculed by everyone. Taking better pics with better angles/filters is useless, catfishing will only end up wasting both people's time. Obesity rates are more or less the same. Women aren't more likely to work out consistently to build better bodies. And when it comes to dressing well, most guys I've seen who are interested in dating put a decent amount of effort to dress well and do basic groomin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/23 11:21 AM |
| 5 | What makes “Passport Bros” so predatory if impoverished or poor women are the ones targeting high income earning men from all around the world?Passport bros realized they are far more desirable in those countries due to the power of the dollar and capitalized on it. if their chances are far better there, and they are willing to go the extra mile to move over there, then who the fuck even cares what these guys do? Let the guys do what they want. Sure they might get with women who only care about their money or whatever, but they'll still get younger hotter women. In the west, they are stuck with mediocre looking women who will probably … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/23 10:31 AM |
| 1 | Most men are as loyal as their optionsIt all comes down to character, not how good looking or rich you are. However, most people have questionable character, so the only thing that keeps them from cheating is a lack of options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/23 03:40 AM |
| 0 | When women learn men of all ages are attracted to teens, women can no longer look at men the same way.Not this crap again. Most women are also more attracted to younger guys, physically at least. The difference is that men are more willing to compromise on a lot of things if the woman is younger and more attractive, while women aren't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/23 03:20 AM |
| 31 | Is love and marriage on the decline? And are other subs effecting each other?Love and marriage are clearly on the decline. Stats show that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/23 03:04 AM |
| 2 | Regarding "Confidence", Personality, and Physical AttractivenessIt's earned through a lifetime of hardship and survival. Yeah ok, Rambo. Leave some hardship and survival for the rest of us. Confidence doesn't manifest out of thin air. It's mostly a product of repeated past success. The more you succeed in something, the more confident you become in handling that task. Also, being a very confident pianist for example doesn't translate in other areas of your life like for example cooking or in this particular case dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 07:12 AM |
| 6 | Regarding "Confidence", Personality, and Physical AttractivenessConfidence is born either out of positive reinforcement or high levels of delusion. Some people are just delusional and they can easily act confident, they don't even need to fake it. However, for most people it has to do with getting a lot of positive reinforcement, which in some small part can come from people consistently complimenting/flirting with you, but mostly it comes from repeated past success. Generally the more times you succeed the more confident you'll become. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 04:58 AM |
| 3 | AF/BB is a bad strategy for women.AF/BB is basically gambling. You have 100k and you want to buy a nice car. At that price point you can only afford an s-class, but you really want a rolls royce. So you decide to go to the casino with that 100k and gamble. There is a small chance to win and turn that 100k into 1mil, so you'll eventually manage to get that rolls royce. But there is a higher chance that you'll lose money or even worse lose all of it. And once that happens, you can't even afford an s-class anymore, you're stuck wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 03:10 AM |
| 1 | Telling people to get a better personality in order to date is pointlessPersonality matters, but not to a big extent, especially initially. Also, noone can really significantly change their personality. The vast majority of it is based on your genes and early childhood/experiences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 11:24 PM |
| 9 | Kevin Costner's ex-wife demands $248,000 per MONTH in child support. Just one of the reasons why men are avoiding marriage, and what Bill Burr means by an "epidemic of gold digging whores".Probably the top 5% make 250k/year. 250k/month is a ridiculous amount of money just to support a couple of kids. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 22/08/23 03:32 AM |
| 6 | Kevin Costner's ex-wife demands $248,000 per MONTH in child support. Just one of the reasons why men are avoiding marriage, and what Bill Burr means by an "epidemic of gold digging whores".250k/month? 3mil/year? For that amount of money Mr. Costner could run through an endless amount of 20 year old models. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 22/08/23 03:29 AM |
| 6 | Single mom is looking for a man to complete her family photo. No single dads though.Funny that you assume a single dad would even want her. The guy works hard to pay for his own kids, not 5 kids of some other guy. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 22/08/23 03:24 AM |
| 2 | There are no benefits to having kids as a womenThey asked for a tangible benefit and I gave them one. All the reasons you mentioned have already been mentioned by other commenters, so I went for the evolutionary one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/23 02:50 AM |
| 3 | There are no benefits to having kids as a womenBy the same logic, assuming you're a surgeon or do charity, and you eventually save a person, then you realize that person has become a murderer and has killed 20 people. It's the same thing. There is always a chance something bad can happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/23 02:22 AM |
| 4 | As women earn higher income, they want an equal or higher earning partner. But as men earn higher, they want a more attractive partner. This will make women more and more single overtime.How can you be that clueless then? Some people never learn I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/23 02:17 AM |
| 5 | There are no benefits to having kids as a womenCompletely clueless. If that was true, two short people would never be able to create a tall person or two ugly people would never be able to create an attractive person. Same for intelligence and everything else. It's less likely for sure, but it happens, give it a long period of time, and eventually it becomes a certainty at some point. Also, some traits, as in subpar genes, haven't gone extinct, because those might come in handy in the future. If all people were exactly the same and there was… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/23 02:14 AM |
| 4 | As women earn higher income, they want an equal or higher earning partner. But as men earn higher, they want a more attractive partner. This will make women more and more single overtime.There is no use debating with you. Noone lied to me. Most babies born to older people are perfectly healthy, so the odds are greatly in favor of healthy babies. However, the big difference between men and women is that old men can impregnate women, old women generally can't get impregnated by men. Women have menopause, there is no andropause, it's that simple. Kids vs. no kids. You can't understand simple facts. Also, my info comes from the greatest pediatrician at John Hopkin's. We're besties. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/23 02:04 AM |
| 2 | There are no benefits to having kids as a womenFirst, where did I mention my future children, or ancestors, or that my genes are more important than everyone's else's? Your reading comprehension is weak. Second, I was talking about playing the long game of probability, stacking up actions and impact, and that everything in some sense are registered and actions can't be undone. If you personally want to be a genetic deadend, that's your choice. I and a lot of other people here won't lose any sleep over whatever you decide to do. Not our chair… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/23 01:55 AM |
| 5 | As women earn higher income, they want an equal or higher earning partner. But as men earn higher, they want a more attractive partner. This will make women more and more single overtime.Egg and sperm quality go down, I don't think anyone is debating that. But male and female fertility aren't even close when it comes to how rapidly they deteriorate. Male fertility is still pretty high up till 45 and then there is a gradual decrease. Female fertility rapidly decreases after 35 and by 40 it's barely above rock bottom. The graphs are available online for free. The percentage of women who can even have kids in their 50s is as much as the percentage of men who can have kids in their … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/23 01:46 AM |
| 4 | There are no benefits to having kids as a womenPassing on your genes is a very tangible benefit. What are we if not vessels for our genes? What you are is directly an expression of your genetic code, at least the majority of it. By reproducing you're achieving the closest thing to immortality that is available to us right now(which is true for at least 99.99% of people, the rest few might go down in the history books). Not only that, but in the very long grand timeline of the universe, where every little or big action is registered, your des… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/23 01:27 AM |
| 5 | As women earn higher income, they want an equal or higher earning partner. But as men earn higher, they want a more attractive partner. This will make women more and more single overtime.Yeah that's a false equivalency. Having babies with increased chance of certain issues and not having babies at all are two entirely different scenarios. Both sperm and eggs deteriorate, but if your chances of having a perfectly healthy baby drop from 95% to 80%, those are still good odds. Not being able to even have a baby is on another whole level though. The reality is that men have around a decade more to reproduce, give or take. Well, technically even more, but realistically only a small mi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/23 09:38 PM |
| 3 | High value men do not want 21 year old'sCherry picked examples. You can probably finds tons of examples that go the other way too. The reality is that it depends on when the guy got with his wife to begin with. If they got together early, when he didn't have much money and leverage, the wife usually is more or less as attractive as him and they are close in age. Then when after years he makes it, he just simply sticks with her because he has already invested a lot in the relationship. But if the guy made it and is single, he'll go for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/23 09:06 PM |
| -2 | As women earn higher income, they want an equal or higher earning partner. But as men earn higher, they want a more attractive partner. This will make women more and more single overtime.I can't comment too much on men but I also think if you're a guy who's 45+ and you expect to date women who are under 35, it's a bit off, my friend. Not off at all. Pew research stats show that first marriage age gap of 10 years or more(with the guy being older in vast majority of cases) only amounts to like 5% of first marriages. For second marriages it's 20%, that's a 4x increase. EDIT: All of it comes down to fertility. A 40 year old rich woman might be able to get a broke 25 year old guy, bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/23 08:39 PM |
| 1 | Do most age gap relationships form deliberately because of the age gap?There is a very strong correlation between youth and beauty, meaning the most beautiful woman in a room of 100 women is probably going to be one of the younger ones. Men prioritize beauty, thus go towards the most beautiful woman they have access to, who is very likely going to be younger. To some part it might be intentional, but I think for the most part it's unintentional and more like a product of the unconscious lizard brain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/23 05:35 AM |
| 4 | Men cuck themselves every time they watch pornThat woman you're watching is neither your girlfriend nor your wife, so by definition you're not a cuck. At best, you're a voyeur. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 07:17 PM |
| 16 | American woman in Australia feels ugly because she doesn't get free drinksBy that same logic, 100% of men feel ugly as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 07:14 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Every single dating and relationship issue come down to lack of attractionMy point is that even if she was very attracted to you, once you become "useless", you'll still get the boot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 08:07 PM |
| – | Male loneliness is entirely men's fault.Yes they are to blame as well partially. But can you really blame the masses when they are for the most part just docile sheep and perfect prey for a cunning wolf? Their shepards are usually wolves in disguise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 08:01 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Every single dating and relationship issue come down to lack of attractionStupid statement. A man losing his job usually increases significantly likelihood of divorce. Is that also included into "attraction"? According to your logic, it isn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 07:58 PM |
| – | Male loneliness is entirely men's fault.Correction: It's "some" men's fault. Basically the guys at the top. Those are the real masterminds. They used their power and influence to bring upon us the current situation because they were greedy and wanted even more easily available free pussy and even more money for themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 07:54 PM |
| 3 | Single moms expose themselves for picking the wrong men to have kids with.Too many words to say "The tingles are just too powerful, mane" | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 17/08/23 07:40 PM |
| 2 | Single moms expose themselves for picking the wrong men to have kids with.Tingles from Chad/Tyrone vs. Raising a child alone for 18 years Tingles win easily for some of them. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 17/08/23 07:39 PM |
| 2 | OnlyFans camwhore receives "dildo of consequences""The dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubricated" I almost spit my coffee. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 17/08/23 07:35 PM |
| 3 | And this mom is a borderline Stacy so you know less attractive moms are having a harder time getting "high-value" men to commit.Men don't want to spend time, money and attention on some kid from another guy who is a complete stranger to them, just like they don't pay for their neighbor's kids school tuition. If the kid is out of sight out of mind, then a lot more men would be willing to give it a shot, but that's not the case 99% of the time. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 17/08/23 07:17 PM |
| 1 | How much money/status do you think it takes for men to compensate for looks?You can have a 12 penis, but if noone sees it, it might as well be a micropenis. If you're ripped but wear baggy clothes, noone knows you're ripped at 8% bodyfat. Pretty common sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 04:47 AM |
| 2 | How much money/status do you think it takes for men to compensate for looks?Depends on the woman. If she is a 9-5 average wagie or even worse broke, 480k is quite an upgrade obviously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 04:33 AM |
| 1 | How much money/status do you think it takes for men to compensate for looks?If you're working all day, who is taking care of the kid? Especially a baby? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 04:28 AM |
| 1 | How much money/status do you think it takes for men to compensate for looks?I don't really think people with a lot of wealth care. Money ultimately is just a tool to be used to get what you want, whatever that is. It's not like you'll take it with you to the afterlife. Trusts and prenups and hot gold diggers is the name of the game for a lot of those people. Get married, have a couple of kids, get divorced within a decade because the woman banged Chad/Tyrone, then replace her with a younger hotter model, repeat same pattern until it eventually sticks or you are dead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 04:23 AM |
| 1 | How much money/status do you think it takes for men to compensate for looks?If you're at least average, then top 5%, like a doctor or something, will probably make you a 7 or even an 8. I've seen plenty of doctors with way more attractive wives. One of them(general surgeon, early 40s to mid 40s) was plain looking in the face and chubby. Only good thing he had going on for him was that he was tall, like 6'0-6'1. His wife(mid 30s probably) was the stereotypical blonde, pretty, a bit of a tan, fit with big, debatably fake, tits(she was a regular in my gym). Half the time s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 04:06 AM |
| – | Corporate Success vs. The Love of a Woman"but never someone who just likes us for who we are" Well if a woman likes you for your looks, she still doesn't like you for who you are. And given that looks will deteriorate with time and there will always be a better looking guy willing to go dumpster diving to fuck your wife, by following your logic it's a lose-lose situation in the longterm either way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/23 10:23 PM |
| 13 | The claim that women settle in their 30s are true, but it's not fully due to being less attractiveDeteriorating physical attractiveness and decreasing options, along with a rapidly closing fertility window. Women who want family and kids settle down in their 30s, because they can't really postpone it any longer due to fertility. And I heavily doubt they are even aware of their decreasing desirability and their looks, since most of them rate themselves as 10/10 nowadays, so it's mostly the fertility thing. By late 30s, in the vast majority of cases minus a few outliers it's a wrap. Otherwise,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/23 10:20 PM |
| 10 | Study : Women’s self-rated attraction to male faces does not correspond with physiological arousalNothing new here. Women prefer more masculine faces(linked to higher testosterone) on average, especially during ovulation. There was a study with the same face morphed from very boyish to very masculine, ranked from 1(very boyish/feminine) to 7(very masculine), with 4 being average/balanced. IIRC women mostly picked faces 4 to 6 as most attractive when they weren't ovulating, and faces 6 to 7 when ovulating, or something along those lines. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/23 10:10 PM |
| – | Women are way more forgiving of physical appearance than menMost couples are of similar physical attractiveness. Some where the woman is more attractive. Very few where the man is more attractive. So generally there is some merit to what you're saying. But you better believe when the woman is dating down in looks, she is dating significantly up in quite a few other metrics. So not really sure who is getting the better deal overall. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/23 06:39 PM |
| 1 | Society right now has a serious masculinity crisis, but not the one you think: I believe the real culture war is productive masculinity vs performative masculinity and this is probably where the red pill theory of last guys finishing last comes fromProductive masculinity can only exist when there is productive femininity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/23 04:48 PM |
| 2 | Women are far worse at articulating what they find attractive than menWomen are just trying to sound politically correct and to appear as a "nice person", that's why they don't mention that looks is the first thing they're looking for. Perhaps it's an evolutionary adaptation so that they can avoid conflict and confrontation. Men on the other hand are way more blunt and just state what they are looking for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/23 04:44 PM |
| 6 | CMV : Women don’t like men who have to approach because the men they want are the sort of guys who don’t have to approachCold approach rarely works. The easiest way to meet women is to expand your social circle. The more people you know, the more people you'll meet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/23 04:41 PM |
| 1 | What percentage of men can date/sleep with conventionally hot or head-turning women ?Average woman can fuck Chad once in a while. Average guy(who also makes average money) can fuck a hot young prostitute once in a while. Twice the SMV? Looks about equal to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/23 03:32 AM |
| 1 | What percentage of men can date/sleep with conventionally hot or head-turning women ?No clue who the first two girls are, but I've seen Alexis Ren. Alexis Ren on Instagram is way better than Alexis Ren on a Youtube video, this should tell you all you need to know about what kind of sorcery is going on on Instagram. Is she pretty? Sure. Is she in the elite levels of physical attractiveness facially? Nope. I had prettier girls in my highschool in my shithole hometown. To answer your question, probably 15% of guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/23 02:46 AM |
| 7 | Divorce reasonsI don't think we disagree on this. Marriage is an outdated concept. Only works when people need each other, get together young and are in religious communities where everyone puts god first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 05:59 PM |
| 6 | Divorce reasonsOf course women cheat more when younger. They are more desirable and have more options. And men cheat more when older, because they have more money and their wife has gone through menopause, so her sex drive has diminished. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 05:47 PM |
| 6 | The women at sex parties are better looking than menYou can't style your hair nicely if your hair is fucked up though. Look, my point is that most women and men in the swinger and sex parties are usually middle aged and look just as mediocre. Unless you're attending the ones where most of the guys are rich and they have 10+ years younger trophy wives. Then I might concede that women in those are more attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 05:41 PM |
| 6 | The women at sex parties are better looking than menYou mentioned "great hair", "make up" and "dressing style", and those were the things I adressed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 05:35 PM |
| 1 | "just be skinny" doesn't workSure, but you assume that Trump isn't as disgusted with Melania. Especially when 3 billion dollars can get him a 25 year old model, even if he was 90. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 05:30 PM |
| 12 | The women at sex parties are better looking than menMost sex parties and swingers events are frequented by old people, like 40+ people, and I bet my left nut the ratio of fat men to fat women is exactly the same, obesity rates clearly show that both sexes are just as fat. Also, what's the difference exactly here? Dressing well? Alright, maybe you make a good point here that most guys usually don't dress as well. But when you mention hair loss and make up I just laugh. In their 40s half the guys have visible hair loss(to different degrees of cours… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 05:26 PM |
| 1 | "just be skinny" doesn't workI mean Melania is still with Trump. The difference between a bad deal and a good deal is around 3 billion dollars. Studies have also shown that virgins who marry other virgins have the lowest divorce rates. I don't see many conserving their virginity though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 04:58 PM |
| 2 | "just be skinny" doesn't workPretty face matters more than body. Being skinny is fine if you have a pretty face. If you don't have a pretty face, then it's the default average state. Just like a guy who is skinny, it's more of a neutral position, doesn't earn him extra points. Most men ideally would prefer a woman who is fit/athletic, has good hip to waist ratio, decently sized tits and ass. Being skinny works for fashion models because a)most of them have highly attractive faces and b)they also have the "model" status halo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 04:12 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Would you date a mediocre woman?Eloquently put. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/23 08:36 PM |
| 5 | Q4Men: If you’re not Chad, why should you be treated the same way as Chad?Not really they shouldn't. Most men aren't Chads and they won't get the Chad treatment. Just like most women aren't 20 year old hotties and won't get the same treatment as a 20 year old hottie. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/23 03:59 PM |
| 1 | The best form of love is when you don't want anything from the other person.Not really. Reality itself is a clever illusion. What you see, feel, hear and can understand is just the tip of the iceberg. We all know that things work completely different on the quantum level, and we've only gotten a small glipse of that due to the advancement of technology. Our senses, bodies and brains aren't even remotely close to developed enough to see the full picture and know what is really happening. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/23 03:39 PM |
| 1 | Is it harder for a man or a woman to be considered attractive?Women have heels and makeup, and a boobjob is a cheap routine procedure with minimal risks compared to leg lengthening surgery(yeah I equate boobs to height, that's the closest equivalent I could find). So it's generally easier for a woman to improve her appearance and to be seen as more attractive. That's why most women look significantly more impressive on a ladies night out compared to when they wake up in the morning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/23 03:34 PM |
| 2 | The best form of love is when you don't want anything from the other person.There is no unconditional love period. For example: the love of a mother towards her kid, which is usually said to be the only form of "unconditional" love, is just a clever illusion dictated by hormones and genes. Ultimately, by loving the kid and raising it, she furthers even if it is unconscious her own goals(that are also aligned with the goals of her genes) to pass her genetic material to the next generation so that her genes survive. People are always inherently motivated by self interest.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/23 03:08 PM |
| 1 | Would you rather your partner cheat on you with a tinder hook up or cheat on you for money?Would I rather lose both of my arms or both of my eyes? I'd rather lose neither! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/23 02:08 PM |
| 1 | Is TRP mostly an American thing?Betabuxxing. Everyone knows why it happens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/23 01:34 AM |
| 15 | CMV : We can’t redistribute love and desire but we can destigmatize and accept AF/BB as the norm and embrace itHot young hookers and mountains of cocaine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/23 05:15 PM |
| 3 | A Divorce Attorney's Thoughts On Love and Marriage-James SextonThe beauty of AI. Marvelous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/23 12:19 PM |
| 6 | Question for men who say women are overly shallow - If you genuinely believe that all (or essentially all) women only care about looks, why don't you focus on improving your looks?There is not much you can do. A good physique and dressing well will improve your overall attractiveness, but not a whole lot. The important parts come down to genetics. Hair loss: 1 in 5 to 1 in 4 men have visible hair loss in their 20s, so 20-25% of guys, and it increases by 10% every decade. You either get on finasteride(with potential side effects when it comes to libido, erections and fertility, and even if you don't get those side effects, god knows how much it'll impact you if you take it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/23 04:31 AM |
| 10 | Men don’t have commitment issues any more than women but women tend to go for guys who have no reason to commitYou're taking the example too literally. Just replace the victoria secret model with a highly attractive librarian who works 9-5. My point is that the vast majority of guys who string along women don't have "commitment issues", it's just that they think those girls simply are not good enough for them, which can be either because they know they can do better(due to repeated past success) and waiting for a better woman to come along or are simply delusional and "think" they can do better but in re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/23 08:33 PM |
| 3 | Men don’t have commitment issues any more than women but women tend to go for guys who have no reason to commitThat's irrelevant. The girl still got the commitment and the relationship. Whether the relationship works or not is another discussion entirely. OP was pretty clear on his post. He meant women who get strung along by guys who are vague and never actually make things official, essentially don't commit to her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/23 08:22 PM |
| 12 | Men don’t have commitment issues any more than women but women tend to go for guys who have no reason to commitThe average male is desperate and the way to get consistent sex is to get into a relationship. However, you're half right. The guy who is not commiting usually does it either because a)he knows he can do better(probably from repeated past success), or b)he is delusional and thinks he can do better. EDIT: Which essentially means that in the vast majority of cases the guy isn't actually a "commitment phobe", he just thinks you're not good enough, at least from his perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/23 07:46 PM |
| 2 | Men don’t have commitment issues any more than women but women tend to go for guys who have no reason to commitFair enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/23 07:43 PM |
| 4 | Men don’t have commitment issues any more than women but women tend to go for guys who have no reason to commitWe're moving goal posts here. Most women aren't involved with guys that can pull underwear models that easily, that was why I mentioned the victoria secret model. To put it bluntly what I mean is that the vast majority of guys aren't exactly commitment phones and will actually immediately commit if the value proposition is really high. That was my whole point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/23 07:41 PM |
| 4 | Men don’t have commitment issues any more than women but women tend to go for guys who have no reason to commitIf a man can bang an 8 that easily, in the vast majority of cases he ain't commiting to a 6, chief, even if that 6 is the most virginal feminine submissive woman known to mankind. If he can easily get sex from an 8, his value is incredibly high, he can easily date 8+. This is something that red pill guys should stop parroting. Men will put women in three groups based on physical attractiveness alone from lowest to highest: a)wouldn't bang, b)would bang and c)would date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/23 07:35 PM |
| 6 | Men don’t have commitment issues any more than women but women tend to go for guys who have no reason to commitFine, if we're playing with words now, just rephrase it to: "If you think he'll not commit, then he is indeed having commitment issues. If you think he'll commit, then the only commitment issues he is having are with you in particular." You fully understand what point I am trying to make here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/23 07:30 PM |
| 33 | Men don’t have commitment issues any more than women but women tend to go for guys who have no reason to commitIf you believe someone has commitment issues, just try to imagine a hypothetical scenario where a victoria's secret model throws herself at him and asks him to commit immediately. If you think he'll say no, then he is indeed having commitment issues. If you think he'll say yes, then the only commitment issues he is having are with you in particular. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/23 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Except for gym, i don't see TRP helping men get laid, at least honestly.Sure the wheelchair bound guy might find someone, but claiming he is actually very desirable is asinine. That was my point. Technically everyone can find someone if they drop their standards to rock bottom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/23 04:50 PM |
| 5 | Except for gym, i don't see TRP helping men get laid, at least honestly.If you believe ladies are waiting in line to get with a man who can't even move, then I don't know what to tell you. You're too far gone. What's next? Male model who is a cripple and completely mentally challenged with a micropenis is having a long line of hotties waiting to bang him just because he has a really attractive face? That's not happening, not in this universe at least. "Fairest transactions"? There is nothing fair in this universe. You either have the ability to take what you want or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/23 01:48 PM |
| 8 | Except for gym, i don't see TRP helping men get laid, at least honestly.Stephen Hawking is the worst example you could bring, we are talking about a guy who was not functional at all. You can be the hottest guy on the planet but if you're on a wheelchair and can't move or speak at all, you won't be getting many women, chief. It's common sense. So basically your point is that higher social status enables you to cast a wider net, thus increasing the probability of finding a woman who finds you attractive. There is some truth to that, obviously. Also I was not talking … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/23 12:20 PM |
| 12 | Except for gym, i don't see TRP helping men get laid, at least honestly.Looks make up for most of the attraction, there is no denying that. However, increased social status definitely helps you, at least to some extent. That's why club promoters or DJs at some shitty nightclub get a lot of women, women hotter than they are, while the more attractive guy standing in a corner gets less. Same exact thing applies to high school. There is always that guy who is not the most attractive guy, but he knows everyone and everyone knows him, that gets hot girls. Denying the imp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/23 11:38 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Men should support abortion restrictions. It's the only hope for "financial abortions" to become reality, and thus truly equal reproductive rightsThe solution is to use condoms and/or perfect your pull out game. The superior solution is to freeze 10 buckets of sperm, get a vasectomy and do IvF when you find the woman you actually want to have kids with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/23 11:17 AM |
| 4 | Age Gap Relationships are Parasitic for Both Parties"I do think it's a 2 way transaction though, because women are looking for money and men are looking for youth. However it's always the man painted as the bad guy in these situations, because only men's sexuality is shamed in 2023." Exactly. Also this whole meme about "power imbalance". Tons of men have crawled on broken glass for miles and climbed skyscrapers to get some attractive pussy. Just having the punani, especially a very desirable punani, gives you power. Then somehow people are denyin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 12:45 PM |
| 1 | Age Gap Relationships are Parasitic for Both PartiesIt it's legal and consentual, noone cares. Older women can also date younger guys if they want, noone is stopping them. If people are given the easy way out, they are free to take it. If I was a med student and also worked some part time job in the meantime, and someone offered me a 2 mil/year job in the entertainment industry from the start, you better bet I'm taking that deal and I am ditching everything else. I won't be like "oh sorry man, I can't take it, I need to buid some work experience … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 12:38 PM |
| 4 | Men do care about a women's careerWon't even associate? Hot models always had access to the wealthiest circles, and it's way easier now with social media. C'mon now... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 10:54 AM |
| 3 | Men do care about a women's careerYeah, no. Statistically there are more rich guys than rich women. There are more male high earners than female high earners. Some men will inevitably date down. Also, a rich guy finding a rich hot woman is not really easy. There are few rich women, even fewer rich hot women. And those ones I'd assume would go for the hot rich guys. The rest of the rich guys will date hot women who make less, because they prioritize looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 10:51 AM |
| 1 | Would you rather have sex with a fat 20yr old or a fit 50 yr old?Probably the fit 50 year old, but depends on the face honestly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 10:26 AM |
| 2 | Men do care about a women's careerPeople who have money, don't care about money. People who don't have money, care about money, out of necessity. Men given the option will go for the hottest woman they can get. Whether that woman has a "career" and money or not is irrelevant. A woman's career/socioeconomic status has no compensating power in her overall attractiveness. Peterson has talked about this in length. When it comes to a man's overall attractiveness, socioeconomic status had a positive correlation of 0.6 iirc. When it co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/23 10:12 AM |
| 0 | How do we feel about the phrase "men marry up, women settle down"?Hypergamy as defined in the original definition refers to the tendency of women to marry across and up socioeconomic status hierarchies. By that definition, men aren't hypergamous. However, men are also marrying across and up beauty hierarchies, so perhaps we should call that looks-based hypergamy or something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/23 11:52 PM |
| 1 | How do we feel about the phrase "men marry up, women settle down"?Men are hypergamous when it comes to LTR/marriages and are looking to leverage any trait they have in surplus to date more attractive women than them. That's what he means. And that's exactly true. For example: A 5/10 plain looking multimillionaire isn't ever going to date a 5/10, whether that 5/10 girl is a multimillionaire or broke. Unless of course they were together since before he became rich, which obviously changes things, because he is already heavily invested in the relationship in that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/23 11:39 PM |
| 1 | How do we feel about the phrase "men marry up, women settle down"?This theory is stupid. Men marry across and up in looks. Women marry across and up in social status, social competency and money. So ultimately, noone is settling, both are dating across and up, just in different aspects. "Settling" is just another word for "couldn't do better even if I wanted". In a perfect world, all men would ideally want a harem of young supermodels. And not just any supermodels, billionaire supermodels. So they can sit 24/7 on a superyacht in the caribbean, have orgies for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/23 11:30 PM |
| 6 | So how exactly do men "deceive" women into sex?There is no need to deceive her to bed her the first time. Women give it up very easily nowadays if they find you physically attractive. In the beginning there is no deception required. The deception happens afterwards, with the guy being vague and stringing her along, so that he can keep milking her for easy sex. However, the first time they had sex, there was no deception, because there was no need for him to deceive her(unless he wasnt single or had hiv of course). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/23 11:16 PM |
| 4 | Why Men Are Resentful of The Way Women's Sexuality (Often) WorksWomen can be just as aroused from the beginning. That's the whole Chad/Tyrone meme. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/23 11:02 PM |
| 1 | Power imbalance relationshipsSome women really love darktriadmaxxed criminals. It is what it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/23 06:42 PM |
| – | Men don't care as much about women intelligence in dating, but they do apprecitate itDoctors in the US have on average an income of like 250-300k iirc, they can definitely lift a woman out of poverty, given that the average wage is like 50k. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/23 03:00 PM |
| – | Men don't care as much about women intelligence in dating, but they do apprecitate it"there are many indirect ways that traits like intelligence do increase a woman's competitiveness." The indirect way goes kind of like this: "I have a good career and make good money, men really value that" -some socially unintelligent woman "I have a good career and make good money, and I am going to use that money to get those fake tits" -some socially intelligent woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/23 02:44 PM |
| – | Men don't care as much about women intelligence in dating, but they do apprecitate itNot sure why this sounds strange to you. If a guy makes good money, he will have no problem dating a woman who makes very little money but is more physically attractive. Now obviously if the guy makes 50k, he doesn't have much of a choice, you can't sustain a household with 50k. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/23 02:40 PM |
| – | Men don't care as much about women intelligence in dating, but they do apprecitate itI don't think women care much about intelligence either though. Otherwise, the 5head nerds would get all the punani. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/23 02:36 PM |
| 3 | Men are hypergamous when it comes to looksPretty much this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/23 08:44 AM |
| 0 | Men are hypergamous when it comes to looksDo men want to date hotter women? Of course, just like women want to date hotter men ideally. The only difference is that men are way more willing to leverage social competency, social status and money to date a hotter woman than they are but who also ranks lower than them in all those things. But even that is only available for a small pool of successful guys, probably ~5% of the male population. Most men who want to date up in looks have nothing to leverage. A guy that makes 70k dating a woman… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/23 08:38 AM |
| 9 | Age gap relationships end in divorceBased detective work. I wish I could be as dedicated as you, sir. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/23 01:22 PM |
| 4 | Age gap relationships end in divorceEven if there was, at 50% divorce rate you'll already fighting an uphill battle. You might as well go for the one you actually want, assuming you can get her that is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/23 01:18 PM |
| 1 | Age gap relationships end in divorceCost benefit analysis. Younger hot chick with higher divorce rate, or older meh looking chick with lesser divorce rate, but still high, given that divorce rate is 50%. You might as well go for the young hot one at this point and enjoy your time. Best solution is to not get married at all obviously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/23 01:15 PM |
| 3 | Women select Men differently on dating Apps compared to In PersonIf I remember correctly, on some speed dating studies, men at first glance found a larger percentage of women attractive, while women at first glance found a smaller percentage of men attractive. However, women were more willing to date men they deemed as less attractive after they got to know them. While men were less willing to date women they deemed as less attractive after they got to know them. So it kinda balances out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/23 12:33 AM |
| 6 | Is it better for men to ask out women as soon as they know them, or is it better to build up a friendship first?Most men have high rejection rate. Trying to build friendships first is very inefficient. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/23 12:29 AM |
| 6 | Is it true that a lot of guys are bitter about dating being better in their 30s?The shift and that men get more attention in their 30s is a fact actually, at least as far as dating apps are concerned. In Dataclysm, it was shown that women get the most messages in their early 20s, then there is a decline, and an even sharper decline after 30, and by 40 they barely get any. Men on the other hand get most messages in their mid 30s and it stays more or less the same at least up to 50 or so. The men who are disatisfied are the guys who clearly got zero to little attention when t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/23 02:38 PM |
| 2 | Do you think in 2023 we are living in a Patriarchy, a Matriarchy or a completely gender neutral society?Exactly. The true rulers of the world are the very wealthy or as Tate calls them - The Matrix. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/23 04:23 AM |
| 3 | There’s a good reason men get praised for sleeping around and women don’tMost people don't come out of the womb as extroverted confident casanovas. It takes practice for a guy to develop those. A woman on the other hand doesn't need to develop any of those, since she is playing a passive role in dating, at least the vast majority of them. Most of them are cowards and have never been rejected overtly. What you said doesn't really refute my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/23 03:57 AM |
| 8 | There’s a good reason men get praised for sleeping around and women don’tOne is easy, the other is hard. It's that simple. For example let's take two attractive people, a guy and a girl. The guy will still have to have balls and good social skills in order to get laid. The girl just has to be willing. Not only she can easily get laid with more people than the guy, she can also easily get laid with people hotter than her. It's like comparing a billionaire who inherited his money and a billionaire who started from zero and made his money. Most people would only respect… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/23 01:24 AM |
| 1 | Guys make more on Onlyfans than womenI think you're pulling that stat out of your ass. Average woman is probably making more than average gay guy on onlyfans, and by significant margin I'd assume. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/23 05:45 PM |
| 1 | Do Women have higher standards OR are we failing as Men?Women generally want taller guys, to what extent height can affect a guy's desirability is debatable though. Height is used in these discussions because it's easy to quantify and is also used in dating apps as a filter. Forget height, just say a good looking face and the argument stays exactly the same. The top 10-20% with a good looking face that make over 100k and so on and so forth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/23 02:45 PM |
| 2 | Rule One: There are no unlucky men, only unmeritorious men.The "Take a shower" advice should be mememized and passed down in the history books. Someone has to be a complete fool to believe that men who are interested in dating aren't taking showers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 07:47 PM |
| 0 | Do you think marriage will die out completely once Women start out earning Men on average?Educated =/= making good money. Most of the degrees offered by universities are garbage and don't translate to a significantly better pay. Men can be "undereducated" and still outperform women, who studied gender studies, by just being plumbers for example. That being said, marriage is already on its last legs. It will soon die for good, whether women start outearning men or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 02:09 PM |
| 2 | The greenpill is a true and genuine solution to modern datingSounds good and easy in theory, but it's hard in practice. Most people aren't really that willing to forgo everything and move to another country. It takes a lot of work and comes with a lot of stress. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 09:57 AM |
| 3 | I see a lot of posts on this sub about what women think about autistic men in the dating landscape. What is the consensus on the reverse of that? So like question for the men on here: would you date a woman on the spectrum and do you think woman on the spectrum have it easier than men with ASD?If she was hot, plenty of men would line up to date her. And of course, women with ASD have it much easier in dating than men, because men are expected to have balls and good social skills and initiate and carry all the initial interactions. Women just play the passive game, so they don't really need those things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 09:54 AM |
| 1 | Men aging like fine wine is a myth and women "hitting the wall" is overstatedJebaited | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/23 06:46 PM |
| 0 | How can I accept the fact that I'm a whore?This is irrelevant and here is why: One might claim that continuous sleeping around might gradually diminish pairbonding ability and make the person a less fit partner for the longterm, because they're more likely to stray or bail. Another might claim that the people who tend to sleep around are doing it because they are genetically predisposed to do it(which obviously has some merit since genes influence to a tremendous extent your physical appearance, your IQ and your personality, some studies… | /r/RedPillWomen | 31/07/23 02:28 PM |
| 2 | There is a huge disparity between what young&attractive girls want and what PPD girls want and that's one reason for misunderstanding.I'd like to see your definition of facially attractive if you think this guy is ugly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/23 04:29 PM |
| 2 | There is a huge disparity between what young&attractive girls want and what PPD girls want and that's one reason for misunderstanding.I'd like to see your definition of facially attractive if you think this guy is ugly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/23 04:29 PM |
| 2 | There is a huge disparity between what young&attractive girls want and what PPD girls want and that's one reason for misunderstanding."Many best looking women are with average or slightly above average men because they get treated well - of course these women have all the power in the relationship" You will very rarely see a very attractive woman dating a below average or average man. She might date a less attractive guy, but that guy will still be above average, just not as attractive as her. And he is probably making up the difference with an fat wallet, high social status, the charm of Casanova and the massive balls of Herc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/23 04:27 PM |
| 5 | There is a huge disparity between what young&attractive girls want and what PPD girls want and that's one reason for misunderstanding.You had to pick the one where he made a funny face lmao. Guy is far far from ugly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/23 01:09 PM |
| 8 | There is a huge disparity between what young&attractive girls want and what PPD girls want and that's one reason for misunderstanding.The guy looks fairly young. He has a nice face, he is jacked, he is tall and he has a killer tan. From what I've seen he also must have at least a decent amount of money as well and displays an adventurous/luxury lifestyle. This guy is most women's dream guy, at least on paper from what I've seen on his instagram. Them saying they don't find him attractive is just straight up lies. Most of them would jump at his peepee the first chance they got. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/23 12:43 PM |
| 11 | Women Admitting That Their Promiscuous Pasts Prevent Them From Enjoying Sex With Their HusbandsOf course, I wasn't talking exclusively about sex, I mentioned people are allergic to downgrades in general. Once you taste it enough, you can never go back. Mansion, rolls royces, expensive gifts, 3 michelin star restaurants, vacations to Tulum, personal chefs and cleaning ladies? After getting all that, the chances of her ever getting with wagie Joe Schmoe and feeling satisfied are slim to none, even if Joe is a gigachad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/23 07:17 AM |
| 2 | Women are outcompeting men in a number of areas, and it’s no mystery why men are falling behind in romanceWomen aren't really more attractive. They just have make up and heels. The rest is just noise. I see plenty of guys dressing nicely. And there are a lot of men who are working out. Obesity is more or less the same between the sexes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/23 07:06 AM |
| 6 | Is promiscuity all that bad? What if a woman has only been promiscuous with other women?Enlighten me with the percentages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/23 06:22 PM |
| 6 | Is promiscuity all that bad? What if a woman has only been promiscuous with other women?As long as you bring other women for threesomes I'm willing to overlook your diminished pairbonding. But on the serious side, bisexual women only make a small percentage of the population so it's irrelevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/23 06:10 PM |
| 27 | Women Admitting That Their Promiscuous Pasts Prevent Them From Enjoying Sex With Their HusbandsUse the search bar. Here is the post that references a few of those studies. There have been many posts in this subreddit compiling different studies. This one has 14, another had 17-18 iirc. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/xqbfyi/not_only_is_past_promiscuity_a_good_predictor_of/ EDIT: Here is another one: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1008i11/body_count_and_the_odds_of_infidelity_based_on/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/23 05:55 PM |
| 26 | Women Admitting That Their Promiscuous Pasts Prevent Them From Enjoying Sex With Their HusbandsNot sure I believe that. Everyone compares, it might not be the sex itself, but it will be something else. You tell me there are no women who lay next to their sleeping husband at night and think "Timmy is fine, but he ain't Tyrone!"? I bet there is a decent number of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/23 05:08 PM |
| 187 | Women Admitting That Their Promiscuous Pasts Prevent Them From Enjoying Sex With Their HusbandsThere have been ~20 studies that have been posted on this very subreddit multiple times that more or less confirm that the more premarital partners a woman has, the more likely she is to report low marital satisfaction, the more likely she is to cheat, and the more likely she is to divorce/leave. People are allergic to downgrades. This is all that it comes down to. If a woman is used to sleeping with more physically attractive, more well endowed, more sexually experienced guys, she already has a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/23 04:44 PM |
| 3 | "Redpill Men" and "Bluepill Women" what are your thoughts on Frans De Waal?Good catch. I misread that line. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/23 10:53 AM |
| 4 | "Redpill Men" and "Bluepill Women" what are your thoughts on Frans De Waal?Quick google search: "Where alpha males uphold influence throughout the entire chimpanzee troop, alpha females possess a higher status among the other female members. Alpha females generally are of a greater standing than subordinate males, as is the case at the Primate Rescue Center." So the alpha female doesn't dominate the alpha male. The alpha male is the king of the pack. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/23 09:47 AM |
| 3 | Physical attractiveness is extremely important for choosing a romantic partner because our society expects monogamyBeing tall is having better genes, especially for men. Larger size comes with better provision and protection capabilities. Shorter lifespan isn't actually that much of a negative in the grand scheme of things. A man dying at 80 versus 70 offers little evolutionary advantage. Most men at that age are not going to be able to reproduce, protect and provide anyway. They are old and weak. Their fertility and ability to achieve erection is rock bottom. Now obviously you have modern technology(viagra)… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/23 05:55 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Theory: Women arent shallow like men in terms of looks: They instead are hyper-sensitive to neurotypicalityDating apps stats destroy your points utterly and completely. Women are pretty shallow when it comes to a man's appearance. Now obviously if you're autistic, even if you're good looking, you'll struggle a lot. Same as a guy, who is neurotypical and good looking, but very shy and socially awkward. Having balls, good social skills and a large social circle is almost a necessity if you want to do well with women. However, that doesn't mean that your looks aren't the largest factor in the equation. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/23 05:38 AM |
| 19 | Why do conventionally attractive woman almost always date high status men?Obviously, between broke and rich, most women would pick rich. But you haven't told us how those guys actually look like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/23 02:13 PM |
| – | CMV : I have never seen a young woman dissatisfied in a relationship with a traditionally attractive manYou think you got me, but you really didn't. Miranda Kerr divorced her husband Bloom when she was like 28-29 iirc, and they got together way before that, so she was a young woman. I can probably find you numerous examples about other young women doing the same, leaving/divorcing their "conventionally attractive" partners, but I am too lazy at the moment to google search. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/23 10:31 AM |
| 1 | Educated Women’s arguments here against dating the working class make no senseEducation is a tricky part. Education can sometimes be a vehicle to financial success, but far from always. There are tons of useless degrees, and people probably only get them to brag about "being educated". And while there is some slight correlation between education and intelligence, that's not always true either. Med school students for example have on average above average IQ. But this doesn't apply to people who went into Gender Studies for example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/23 10:27 AM |
| 1 | Men dont NEED casual sexIf men didn't need sex, they'd never get involved with women. You're completely clueless, because you've never been a man(at least not in this life). The only men who don't need it are probably 60+ year old dudes with zero libido. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/23 10:19 AM |
| 23 | CMV : I have never seen a young woman dissatisfied in a relationship with a traditionally attractive manOh really? Giselle divorced Tom Brady. Angelina divorved Brad Pitt. Miranda Kerr divorced Orlando Bloom. I could go on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/23 03:45 PM |
| – | If you want happiness, marry a mid. Many high profile men, like Jim Caviezel do it. Jason Momoa did itI am sure the mid wife will be happy when she learns you're banging hotties on the side. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/23 02:19 PM |
| – | In most "predatory" relationships, the actual predator is the womanMen have waged literal wars for the punani. Clearly whoever has the punani also holds tremendous amounts of power. Women have used the punani to prey on men since the dawn of time. Acting like there is a power "imbalance" is just copium. There is no power imbalance. Power comes in different forms. One is paper, money basically, another is the punani. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/23 01:31 PM |
| 3 | The 'Chad C*ck Carousel* is a MythYou lost me at the bio thing. Online dating is all about looks and good photos. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/23 07:46 AM |
| 4 | The Red Pills conception of Female Hypergamy is largely pseudo-scientificI mean it's pretty common sense. Just because you want something doesn't mean you are actually able to get it. Both parties have to be satisfied with what they get or a relationship won't form. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/23 06:52 AM |
| 7 | The Red Pills conception of Female Hypergamy is largely pseudo-scientificWomen date across and up in socioeconomic status and social competency. Men date across and up in beauty. Most people date within the same socioeconomic status, because most people have nothing to actually leverage. The average guy isn't very socially competent, doesn't have great social skills or large social circle. He also doesn't have a lot of money or status. The average woman on the flipside isn't very physically attractive. Also, there are certain discrepancies that are hard to pinpoint. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/23 06:40 AM |
| -1 | CMV: Men should looks-max/career-max for the highest overall success8 is a model, she's far from that. But she definitely is above average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/23 05:36 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Men should looks-max/career-max for the highest overall successAssuming a guy is very young. He should looksmax, grow some balls and improve his social skills, expand his social circle. Maybe try to increase his social status within his environment. For example I've seen plenty of guys that worked nightlife who shoot above their league consistently, just because they were fairly known in that environment and were I guess in the spotlight. Bartenders, DJs, club promoters etc. Careermaxxing doesn't really work that well. The chances of making it really big ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/23 05:33 AM |
| 33 | CMV: This Medium Article from a middle-aged female author asking 'Where are all the good men' perfectly explains men's dating complaintsClassic case of alpha fucks beta bucks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/23 05:15 AM |
| 105 | The principles of the manosphere are based on a just-world fallacyMost women can find a guy anytime they want. The question is if that guy will be the one they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/23 01:51 PM |
| 1 | As a man you should not date if you are brokeSurrogates are already available... they just cost like 100-150k or so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/23 08:24 AM |
| 2 | Is it better to define average-looking by measuring how many people think you look cute vs. "scientifc set of physical traits"?I mean technically that's correct. The more people universally agree that you are attractive, the higher you rank in the physical attractiveness scale most likely. If 1 billion people find you hot, then you're hot. If 5 people in the whole world find you hot, then you're probably really ugly. The guy you posted looks like a 4 to me, facially wise. Maybe a 4.5 at most. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/23 08:20 AM |
| 1 | As a man you should not date if you are brokeMoney sure helps, but it isn't really a gamechanger or something. This is basically promoting worker drone culture and betabuxxing. Chad, Tyrone, Enrique and Chang usually have zero pennies to their name, they just look good and have good social skills. And that's all they ever need to get a lot of young hot women. So clearly money isn't the issue here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/23 07:16 AM |
| 2 | The bald mans handicapHair transplants actually look pretty good. What kind of transplants did you see? Those done 30 years ago? Lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 10:30 PM |
| 3 | Would a lot of people be more happy with finding partners if they were willing to expand their age ranges?Forget the grannies, get the passport then! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 10:13 PM |
| 0 | Women do not become more romantic later on in the relationship, women that say this don't actually know how to be that in a way that the other person appreciates.The period that women are the most capable of real romance and love is when they are teenagers. And after mid 20s, it's almost over, then it's mostly about business, if you know what I mean. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 09:24 PM |
| 6 | The bald mans handicapBalding is a spectrum. Some corner recession makes zero difference in how you're perceived. It's only when it's severe recession, all your hair on top getting really thin, or noticeable crown balding that starts to really affect you. Most men look worse with a clean shaved bald head, how much worse it depends. Few men that have the right skin tone, the right facial features and the right skull shape can probably look as good as when they had hair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 09:18 PM |
| 3 | Would a lot of people be more happy with finding partners if they were willing to expand their age ranges?If it's not from my nut, I don't really give a single fuck about the kid. If it's from my nut, I'd invest a lot of my time and money raising it. That's quite a big of a change actually. The same way if I see someone from my family get attacked, I'll try to intervene. If it's some stranger, I'll keep walking. It's called self interest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 01:18 PM |
| 4 | Would a lot of people be more happy with finding partners if they were willing to expand their age ranges?I mean it's not like I'll ask humanity for permission. Also, I don't give a single fuck about some random stray kid. You can adopt an extra one in my place. Do the right thing buddy. Overpopulation is upon us! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 12:09 PM |
| – | Men should not be shamed for leaving their wife for a younger woman.If a guy can afford to go for a much younger woman easily, he is most likely making bank. Not an ideal situation, but the woman potentially will emerge richer. In the reverse scenario, the man gets both the heartbreak and also gets crippled financially. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 08:59 AM |
| 2 | Would a lot of people be more happy with finding partners if they were willing to expand their age ranges?Generally women go for their age or older, but there is a switch in their 40s which was also shown in the dating apps, where they do indeed start preferring younger men, maybe not men in their 20s, but definitely men in their 30s, instead of men their own age or older. Part of it is that they have already reproduced and probably have kids that are close to adults if not already adults, another part of it is that the women themselves have more money now(due to career or simply getting a hefty amo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 08:41 AM |
| 1 | Would a lot of people be more happy with finding partners if they were willing to expand their age ranges?A lot of people marry young and have kids, not sure what to even tell you. Some people even skip the marrying part and have kids outside of wedlock, evidently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 07:55 AM |
| – | Confidence is non-transferableI don't think there is much to debate here. Being confident is basically knowing you can perform well and there is high likelihood you'll get the desired outcome. A lot of it comes from external sources that reinforces the idea that you can perform well and there is high likelihood of success. A confident surgeon is just sure he can do his job well most of the time, it can't be transferred to dating or any other area of life(like competitive swimming for example). If his success with women has b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 07:33 AM |
| 3 | Would a lot of people be more happy with finding partners if they were willing to expand their age ranges?If a woman wants to marry and have kids, and the man can shoulder the whole financial burden by himself, there is no conflict. Most people date within similar ages because 50k/year alone can't really support a household, but for those guys who make enough money to do it, then expanding the range downards only increases their options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 07:28 AM |
| – | Men should not be shamed for leaving their wife for a younger woman.If they can afford the divorce(hopefully they have trusts and prenups), then it's fair game. The woman benefits way more from a divorce than a man, so essentially, it's not really a big deal at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 07:00 AM |
| 1 | Would a lot of people be more happy with finding partners if they were willing to expand their age ranges?Expanding dating range up offers zero benefit, since most men are looking eventually for family and kids. It makes no sense. If it's just sex and casual things, then obviously you can expand the range both ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 06:57 AM |
| 1 | Would most men cheat on their partners if given the chance?Most people are liars and coping or self deluding themselves. If an average guy has an opportunity to easily bang a significantly hotter woman than his wife, in most cases he'd jump at the chance. Luckily that doesn't happen very often, so men don't really cheat, out of a lack of options. And usually most men have higher chances of being able to date a more attractive woman than actually sleeping with one with minimal effort for ONS, so the side chick is most often a downgrade physically wise, w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 06:51 AM |
| 4 | Would a lot of people be more happy with finding partners if they were willing to expand their age ranges?Sure, but the difference is that a 32 year old woman won't date a 24 year old man, because in the vast majority of cases he'd be broke, and even if she can shoulder all the financial burden by herself, she is just simply not willing to do so. The reverse happens way more often, because men are willing to do that way more often. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 06:47 AM |
| 7 | Would a lot of people be more happy with finding partners if they were willing to expand their age ranges?Men in their 30s should expand their age range downwards, not upwards. Most men eventually want families and kids, let's say 2-3 of them, and dating 40+ women is a done deal when it comes to that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 06:43 AM |
| 1 | "taller than me, but not drastically shorter than his friends"Only partially true. Men generally on media nowadays are on average significantly fitter and more muscular than before(a lot of them are juicing), so there is definitely a trend here. But generally height was always preferred, it's not a recent thing. In comparison for women, the trend went from skinny to slim thick hourglass figures(some of them with fake tits and BBLs). But generally, I don't think the face is less valued nowadays. I still think it's still the most important thing attractivene… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/23 02:57 PM |
| – | Discussion: This quote really hits homeOf course autistic men have a far harder time. Balls, good social skills and a large social circle is the most important thing if you want to get women. There are many above average guys who have trouble getting women due to the lack of those things. Imagine how much harder it would be if you are also autistic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/23 09:20 AM |
| 1 | Do you think status has a big affect on attraction?People seem to misunderstand what status even is. They usually equate status with fame or social standing. That's partially true in my opinion. Being good looking, tall and jacked IS status, because in any kind of environment you instantly separate yourself immediately from the more homely looking people and are in the spotlight and placed higher in the hierarchy compared to them. Having a lot of money and resources, like very expensive watches, rolls royces, boats and yachts is status, because … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/23 06:11 AM |
| 1 | If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flagsThat's true. Just take a look at Zherka. Good looking(even though he is not very good looking), jacked, 6'5 with tattoos, plus he's a cokehead. He straight up insults them, has no filter, and they still bang him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/23 05:52 AM |
| 4 | "taller than me, but not drastically shorter than his friends"Face matters way more than height in general. Being tall is obviously desired, but in general it's not really that huge of a boost as people making it seem like. Dating apps have height filters, that's why height generally seems more important than it actually is. Good looking 5'10 guy will destroy a 6'2 plain looking guy in the vast majority of cases. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/23 05:27 AM |
| 12 | Money 100% does help with dating and does compensate for shortcoming no matter what this sub saysMoney alone can get you pussy, but it can't get you women. That's the whole argument. However, if pussy is the thing someone wants, then by all means go all out. I assume there are plenty rich dudes in their 40s and 50s with tons of money, who've already done the marriage thing and have adult kids, and the only thing that they want now is to bang young hot women. Money helps tremendously with that, obviously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/23 05:22 AM |
| 3 | Pregnant mom has high standards. (post by @RouteClearance)If this story is real, I am losing hope for humanity. This guy was a darktriadmaxxed savage. Was he good looking as well? | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 23/07/23 08:34 AM |
| 1 | There's a facebook group literally called "Single moms overestimate their market value" with over 120,000 members, proving WhereAreAllTheGoodMen isn't the only community that sees just how low-value and unreasonable many of these women are.Women probably live in another universe, a universe full of delusion. They can't understand why a guy doesn't want to spend his attention, time and resources on her kid from another guy. That kid is a stranger to him and only comes with extra responsibility, extra stress and a huge hit on the wallet. It's like your neighbor asking you to pay for his kid's college tuition. Bro, I don't give a single fuck about your kid, I'd rather use my money as toilet paper. If all single moms looked like model… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 23/07/23 08:28 AM |
| 14 | Pay full price for a gallon of milk that expires in 3 days as one a row back that expires in 3 weeksChances of getting married at 30 are 20%. Chances of getting married at 40 are 1%. Good luck to this lady and her "rich Chad husband" goals. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 23/07/23 08:23 AM |
| 8 | Jonah Hill learns that he can't turn a hoe into a housewife, yet his boundaries remain a reasonable dating standard for commitment-minded men, and acts as a great filter against "independent women" who think they can hoe around while having a stable dude as a safety net.On one hand, I feel sorry for the guy, his boundaries were reasonable. On the other hand, I think he is just stupid. He got together with a surfer who enjoys attention and trips and has a "wild past", he knew all that beforehand. I mean if you enter a sea full of great white sharks, what would you expect to happen? | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 23/07/23 08:21 AM |
| 1 | How important is fitness in finding your ideal partner?Hourglass shape and fit with decent size in butt and thighs is ideal in my opinion. But ultimately, if the face is good, I'll still take a skinny woman with zero tits and ass as well. Certainly not a fat one though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 01:10 PM |
| 3 | Men in western society should reject marriageReligion is on its last knees. Marriage is slowly dying. The thing with marriage is that it doesn't offer much benefit to the guy if it goes well and it severely cripples him if it goes bad. People can still get together, they just don't need to sign the legal papers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 01:05 PM |
| 3 | All men seek two fundamental qualities in partners:Fair enough. I am just saying that becoming hot is not possible for most people. You can improve your appearance but a woman, just like a man, can never elevate themselves to the elite tiers of attractiveness without extensive surgery, and a lot of times not even then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 10:14 AM |
| 2 | Women shouldn't have to pay halfWomen should grow a nutsack and get kicked between the legs to experience how much it hurts as well. Only then there can be true equal 50-50 empathy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 10:12 AM |
| 1 | All men seek two fundamental qualities in partners:Hot is not made, silly. Hot is born. Unless we're talking about extensive plastic surgery with questionable results. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 10:08 AM |
| 1 | Women shouldn't have to pay halfI guess men will have to start taking estrogen as well so that they can develop manboobs and breast feeding can finally be 50-50. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 10:04 AM |
| 5 | Sex is extremely important to people and when they say it's not, they're lying.Yeah billionaires also exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 04:22 AM |
| 2 | In your opinion, is telling people not to actively search for love and let it come to you good advice?Generally they mean "socialize, meet women, make your interest known, but don't overinvest and chase/pursue women, because the vast majority of the time chasing is just a waste of time". And I agree with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 04:20 AM |
| 2 | Sex work could be a real alternative to relationship for many men, but...In certain places in Europe you can find a young hot prostitute for 50 euros. Depends on where you live. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 04:14 AM |
| 3 | Are many average guys really refusing to give chubbier women a chance?I mean if the guy isn't chubby, then why should he? Is the woman paying his bills to give him an incentive to date her? Didn't think so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 04:11 AM |
| 10 | Are many average guys really refusing to give chubbier women a chance?Obesity rates in the US are more or less the same for both men and women. Chubbier girls could try with chubbier guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 04:09 AM |
| 1 | CMV I believe that beeing a Step Dad is one off the most humilating things that a Man can do to himself.Sure, it's possible, if the man gets a good deal in the looks and genetics side of things. I mean there are probably tons of average guys who would willingly wife up single mothers who look like models. But that's an exception and it rarely ever happens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 03:58 AM |
| 2 | CMV I believe that beeing a Step Dad is one off the most humilating things that a Man can do to himself.False equivalency. Those kids are neither the man's nor the woman's. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 03:53 AM |
| 1 | CMV I believe that beeing a Step Dad is one off the most humilating things that a Man can do to himself."If the single mom gives the man children then it’s mutually beneficial. He becomes a real dad in exchange for being a step dad" Not true from an investment perspective. The other man's kid will inevitably drain your resources, attention and time, while also adding extra stress and responsibility. The other man's kid will also drain your partner's resources, attention and time. If that kid didn't exist, all those things would go exclusively to your own kids and your own kids would benefit the mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 03:48 AM |
| 8 | Most discussions of overweight women are disingenuous because they reference women with desirable pear shaped bodies, but the vast majority of overweight women do not look like that.They confuse this ) ( with this ( ). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 03:42 AM |
| 4 | Let's talk about self-esteem and datingOne of the pillars of self esteem is physical attractiveness though. Psychology pilled my ass. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 12:08 AM |
| 1 | What is stopping a betabux from doing a pump and dump?Nothing is stopping them. It's the dark side of betabux. But ultimately, is it even worth it? You'll still have to dedicate time and resources for dates etc. You aren't Chad, they aren't going to sleep with you right away, you'll have to work for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/23 04:32 AM |
| 2 | As a guy if you had to choose, would you choose to be very physically attractive or have a successful career?You're overreaching here. Redpillers definitely say that character matters as well, it's just not number 1 on the list, it's more like number 2. Most women think exactly the same. The most desirable women, which are the hot ones, are not going to go after a guy just because he has great character and will make a nice husband and father. He also has to check other more superficial boxes, whether that's just looks or a combination of looks and money or whatever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/23 12:40 AM |
| 2 | As a guy if you had to choose, would you choose to be very physically attractive or have a successful career?Men want the hot girl to love them though, not any girl. And they think to accomplish that being extremely physically attractive but making average wage is far more advantageous than being a plain looking dude who makes a lot of money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/23 09:57 PM |
| 1 | As a guy if you had to choose, would you choose to be very physically attractive or have a successful career?Very physically attractive vs. 6 figures? I'd go with the very physically attractive. 100-200k/year for example ain't going to make you swim in punani. Now if it was very physically attractive vs. 8 figures, probably I'd go with the 8 figures. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/23 09:45 PM |
| 11 | Stop trying to save menYour logic is basically "not your chair, not your problem, why care about it?". Well, it's all fun and games, until the problem comes knocking at your door, but by then it'll be too late to fix anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 12:21 AM |
| 2 | CMV : Even if women are more attractive in their 20’s, the attractive ones don’t want you now and definitely won’t want you in your 30’sI've known plenty. Are those the majority of the population? Probably not, but saying it doesn't happen is just BS. In every gym I've been, I've known plenty of couples where the guy was 30-35 and the girl was 20-25 that are coming to work out together. Now have I seen many 40 year old men dating 20 year old women? No. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 12:05 AM |
| 1 | Height is the most influencing factor to a man's SMVWomen prefer a big dude and height plays a role in that obviously, but face is the most important component when it comes to someone's physical attractiveness. 5'10 dude with nice face demolishes 6'2 dude with plain looking face. But unlike money or height or dick size etc., a nice face is hard to quantify. Everyone knows that 6'0+ is considered tall. But you have to see the face to actually see if it's good, you can't communicate it. You can say things like "chiseled jawline and nice hair or ey… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/23 11:36 PM |
| 2 | CMV : Even if women are more attractive in their 20’s, the attractive ones don’t want you now and definitely won’t want you in your 30’sLiterally no mid-30's guy has any interest in taking a 23 year old girl seriously beyond sex. Alright now you're just lying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/23 11:05 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Even if women are more attractive in their 20’s, the attractive ones don’t want you now and definitely won’t want you in your 30’sThere are way more female gold diggers than male gold diggers, that by itself should tell you what you need to know. Can most men in their 30s leverage their money/status to get a significantly younger hotter girl? No, probably only like the top 5% of earners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/23 11:03 PM |
| 2 | Is it true for most guys that there are more dating options in their 30s as pointed out on here?Even on dating apps that stuff is true. Women get most messages in their early 20s, men get most messages in their mid 30s or so. Now obviously most of those messages will probably come from women in the lates 20s and up, not 20 year olds, but they do get more messages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/23 09:38 PM |
| 3 | If "hypergamy" is women "dating up" when it comes to "masculine" traits in men that she might not have as much as he does, what is it called when men "date up" when it comes to "feminine" traits in women that he might not have as much as she has?Hypergamy means women are usually dating across and up in socioeconomic status, basically social standing and wealth. While men are dating across and down. That's the original definition. Other definitions are just a bastardized version that the red pill gurus made. But sure, if a woman dates up significantly in social standing, wealth, social competency etc., then she probably dates down in some other aspect, which is usually looks, since that's what men value the most. Essentially both the wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 10:00 PM |
| 1 | 30+ year old women can be just as attractive as a 21 year oldMen would fuck all kinds of women depending on the effort/time/resources required and his particular taste on that day because they enjoy variety to some degree. But just like women, if they are going to be monogamous, if they had all the choice in the world but could only stick with one, they'd choose the best one, and the vast majority of men would agree that this would be a young woman with a pretty youthful face, fit, large hips slim waist, and decently sized tits and ass. Sure, a woman who … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 09:48 PM |
| 2 | “ women only want men who other women want” is projection.Well, I also don't agree with you evidently. It is what it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 09:23 PM |
| 2 | “ women only want men who other women want” is projection.Reality is in most cases pathetic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 09:16 PM |
| 2 | “ women only want men who other women want” is projection.Just because homeless men eat leftovers from mcdonalds to survive doesn't mean they prefer them or are happy with their situation. They are doing it to survive. Just because once in a while you get mcdonalds when you have wagyu beef steak at home every day, doesn't mean you prefer the mcdonalds or you think it's better or even equal to wagyu beef steak. Especially that since you have the choice, you choose 6 days of the week to eat wagyu beef and only one day of the week you eat mcdonalds. That … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 09:07 PM |
| 3 | What are mens opinions on gym girls?Funny how you think bbl is the only thing that exists when it comes to altering your butt. Crazy. Sure, but genetics+gym=better booty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 05:57 PM |
| 5 | What are mens opinions on gym girls?Gym booty is by definition natural, unless we are talking steroids and butt implants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 05:46 PM |
| 2 | [CMV] You have to PAY in order to be lovedFalse. Friendships are also inherently transactional. Friends might want to be near you because you're hot, so that when you attract female interest, they can also benefit from the scraps. Friends might want to be near you because you're ugly, so that they can feel better about themselves. Friends might want to be near you, because you're rich and you occasionally treat them to free stuff or invite them to your big house to swim in the pool. Friends might be with you because you're interesting, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/23 09:52 PM |
| 2 | [CMV] You have to PAY in order to be lovedThere is no unconditional love. All relationships are inherently transactional. There is always an ongoing transaction of resources, which might be material or immaterial. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/23 09:12 PM |
| 2 | what do you think is the main reason for men giving commitment to one girl, but not the other?Two things: looks and character. The side chick might be attractive enough to bang but not to date. And if she's attractive enough to date, then she probably lacks the character part, thus making her a bad investment in the longterm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 04:19 PM |
| 0 | Q4M: an enthusiastic 3 or a starfish 10?Starfish 10. Easy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 04:18 PM |
| 1 | Beta bucks doesn't exist, women aren't settling and choosing single life with casual datingYour example of one woman is laughable. The biological clock of most women is ticking. Most women(and men) have a big desire to reproduce and have a family at some point. A lot of women settle to achieve that. So yes, the betabucks still exists, arguing otherwise is foolish. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/23 06:02 PM |
| 5 | I see a lot of manosphere podcasters just not living upto what they say.Most of them are found lacking. Donovan Sharpe was hating on single moms, then he was found dating a 50 year old single mom, while he has no kids of his own. MLD was found texting that he wants to physically abuse women. Tate preaches that he has many faithful hot girlfriends whom he has kids with, but let's be honest, what are the chances of all those women staying loyal to him and not fucking other dudes behind his back in the longterm? Especially when he is not around them most of the time an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/23 05:58 PM |
| 3 | Do women confuse their socioeconomic status with their SMV?China for instance calls you post wall (leftover woman) at 25 rather than 30 like we do here out west. This reminds me of the fact that in Europe someone is considered tall if he's 180cm(5'11), while in the US it's 183cm(6'0). People sure love the round numbers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 10:56 PM |
| 5 | Virginia is going NoFap* tomorrow! Can we speculate to repercussions to the SMP/RMP?Some people think that it goes like this: men watch a lot of porn to satisfy their urges->so they don't even bother trying to get the real thing. But I believe it most likely goes like this: men try to get the real thing and fail->so they turn to porn because they are young and have high sex drive and that's their only option to satisfy their uges, and let's be honest it's better jerking off to porn than jerking off staring to a ceiling. Nothing will change. That being said, VPN exists so the ba… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 06:02 PM |
| 3 | To the non-red pill men, do you agree with the notion that women ‘age out’ of their prime by 25? Why/why not?15-16 year olds might look childlike, but definitely not the women in their early to mid 20s. And yes a 28 year old woman looks worse than a 21 year old woman, the difference might be slight, but it is still there, barring cases like weight loss or cosmetic surgery as I stated. I don't think most women in the 18-25 category are attractive, I don't think most men here think that way and only a fool would believe as such. Everyone was young once, but not everyone was hot once. What men say is that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 05:51 PM |
| 5 | To the non-red pill men, do you agree with the notion that women ‘age out’ of their prime by 25? Why/why not?Men overwhelmingly prioritize looks. Beauty is very strongly correlated with youth. That's why younger women are on average more attractive. Is a 28 year old woman less attractive than when she was 21 years old? Yeah. The difference is small, but it's still there, and it will only get bigger with time. Barring of course exceptions like when the woman used to be fat and lost weight or had significant cosmetic surgery etc. I find it quite hilarious people believe this is just the "redpillers", whe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 05:28 PM |
| 2 | Is is true that being a single mother penalizes a woman more than dating than being a single father does for men?The mother is usually the one who is saddled with the kids. The single fathers usually just pay child support and see their kids 1-2 times a week or something. That's why single mothers are penalized heavier than single fathers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 05:15 PM |
| 2 | The best way to look as a woman is average (7/10)Sure if OP lives in Brickell Miami, maybe. In the vast majority of places, it's not 7. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 12:46 PM |
| 2 | The best way to look as a woman is average (7/10)Even on that infamous okcupid study, men rated women on an almost perfect bell curve, what you are saying makes no sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 12:39 PM |
| 1 | The best way to look as a woman is average (7/10)If my head math is correct, normal distribution dictates that ~12.5% are 7/10 or above, ~2.5% are 8/10 or above, and probably less than 1% are 9/10 or above. This is also backed by how men rated women on the okcupid study, they rated them on an almost perfect bell curve. Average is 5/10, 7/10 actually is pretty high. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 12:23 PM |
| 1 | How do you justify asking for a woman with a low body count, if yours is high?The same way a woman justifies asking for a tall rich guy when she's a bordeline broke midget. Men and women simply care about different things to different degrees. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Would Men's Drive for Achievement and Success be the same without women ??Nope, they wouldn't be the same. Men try to get richer in order to get hotter women. Men buy lambos and mansions in order to get women. If every man had a harem of supermodels visiting him every night with zero expectations, men would live in cheap one bedroom apartments working minimum hours to survive and play video games and drink beer with their buddies. Sure, they'd probably still exist a tiny fraction of men who are fueled by pure vanity and greed, but that'll only be a very very small per… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 04:33 PM |
| 2 | CMV After a certain looks level, social skills, money and status matters more for you‘re smv then better looks, and there are 1000s of proofs out there.Physical attractiveness only starts to have diminishing returns after around 8/10 or so. The difference between an 8 and a 10 is small. The difference between a 5 and a 7 is big. But if you rank extremely high in any attribute you can get attractive pussy, even if you're average in everything else. There are plenty of hot gold diggas and plenty of hot clout chasers who will bang you. Now obviously it's not a wise decision to marry any of them, but you can definitely have your fun with them. That… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 03:36 PM |
| 0 | It's not possible for a man to have authority in the household if the woman is able to divorce him.This whole thing can be solved by better divorce laws. Everyone keeps the assets they had before they got married and any assets they have acquired during the marriage. After divorce, the only thing a man(or a woman) should be forced to pay is child support. That's it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 03:20 PM |
| 1 | Is dating more messed up in the US than other Western countries?The differences about how dating is in all the western countries are minimal, it's more or less the same in all of them. The only exceptions being a few previously soviet nations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 04:49 PM |
| 3 | Is gold-digging on the rise?It's not on the rise. It's just that now it's out there for the world to see. You can thank technology, the internet and social media for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 11:23 AM |
| 3 | If it's insulting that someone wants you after they've had their fun in their youth, would it be even more insulting if they still didn't want you?Well, it definitely hurts your ego and it is still kind of insulting, because yes in a way they now want you, but in reality they don't REALLY want you. That being said, ultimately it's still a net positive, since noone actually forces you to marry those women, you can just have casual fun with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 11:07 AM |
| 1 | What do you think of the concept of ‘true burning desire’?Overstating the importance of it? No. Women have three camps that they'll put you on: a)invisible man or simp(they'll not date/fuck you obviously) also known as FUCK NO camp, b)some guy(they might consider dating you) also known as the MAYBE camp, and c)THE guy(the guy they actually really want) also known as HELL YEAH camp. You have to be THE guy if you want to have good chances the relationship will work out longterm, that's the burning desire thing. If you're just "some guy", then you're fuck… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 10:59 AM |
| 0 | Do you think the relationships suffers when the man or woman likes the other more?Man 45:55 woman is the golden ratio. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 10:11 AM |
| 2 | How would you feel if your sweet daughter was the one out there having sex with men old enough to be father?I'd ask her to get an autograph from Leo because I'm a fan. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Men are just as hypergamous as women.Hypergamy refers to the tendency of women to marry across and preferably up socioeconomic hierarchies. That's the classic definition of hypergamy. The same thing doesn't apply to men, since they marry across and down socioeconomic hierarchies. Hypergamy has nothing to do with looks at all, at least based on its original definition. That being said, you're kinda correct. When it comes to long term relationships, when a woman marries significantly up in socioeconomic status, the man usually marrie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 03:16 PM |
| 3 | Women getting upset over the fact that Men like younger women is mainly irrationalYour story is as believable as me saying my "60 year old" dad drained the bank accounts of several "30 year old" women. If you want to make a point, at least conjure a more believable story. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 05:48 AM |
| 2 | Women getting upset over the fact that Men like younger women is mainly irrationalYou got upset for no reason. The only way a 40 year old is dating a hot 18-24 year old is either a)he overwhelmingly won the genetic lottery like Cavill, or b)he is making a shit ton of money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 05:27 AM |
| 7 | Women getting upset over the fact that Men like younger women is mainly irrationalYeah it's pseudoscience. There is some truth to it, but it's way more complicated than that. In those same neurological studies they've also found that it also varies greatly by individual. I remember reading that in one case a 8 year old's brain was actually more developed than a 30 year old's brain. Let that sink in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 05:24 AM |
| – | treat men like they treat women in debates and they fall apart.Damn, you smell of L-alpha-Phosphatidylcholine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 05:17 AM |
| 1 | The assumption that some men make about women having it easier in dating is usually made by inexperienced men who have not gotten a glimpse into women's lives.You acting like men don't put any effort in their appearance and those that don't actually have a long line of hot pussy waiting for them. Both are obviously not true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 12:21 AM |
| – | we should criticize deadbeat dads (to an extent) not single momsDeadbeat dads don't get praised and never have been praised. That being said, the blame can't be asigned equally here. Women are the gatekeepers of sex, they choose if and when sex happens, and without sex there will be no children. They also have a variety of options available to them to minimize the consequences. Staying celibate, condoms, pill, abortion, adoption. Tons of safety nets available. And if they really want to have kids, they can choose to actually marry the man before fucking the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 07:54 PM |
| 1 | Discussion : Why shouldn’t there be “losers” in the dating market? Why is it wrong a lot of men will lose out?For every man that loses, one woman loses as well. Now the argument against this is that a lot more women don't care to get paired up and to that argument I will call CAP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 06:54 PM |
| 3 | A lot of people miss the point between two extremes. Yes, getting sex/relationships won't solve your all your problems, but adults have adult needs that can't be met with friendship, and social needs that can't be met with self-worth alone. It's possible some people just need to feel attractive.If men could be fulfilled without sex and relationships, half of us would be living in monasteries with our brothers. In reality, only few people can manage that, which is testament to how important those things are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 06:50 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The take-away shouldn't be that "women think 80% of men are below average"; it should be that "women suck at rating men systematically".Women just suck at rating men in general. I bet if you showed a woman 10 male models, they'd rate at least one of them as below average or average. I bet if you showed a man 10 female models, they'd still rate the one they liked the least as at least slightly above average. That's the key part here. Also, while rating 80% of men as below average in online studies, it's also been shown in other studies, that women are more likely to change their opinion of a man when they meet him in person, even… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 06:47 PM |
| 7 | CMV: Men don't want older career women because they're insecure and intimidatedOlder career women have more experience, thus also more baggage, on average. Older career women are less physically attractive on average. Older career women are more likely to be more competitive and create unnecessary conflict in the household. Older career women are more likely to want to work and let your children be raised by complete strangers, that don't have any horse in the race and will do the bare minimum possible, and might also abuse your kids. There are many reasons men don't want … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 06:36 PM |
| 1 | What role do you think socioeconomic status plays in dating?"Sure looks matter, but even an average looking guy with a degree and a good job has the chance to settle down with average looking relationship material girl based off his social circle." 5/10 guy with a good job ending up with a 5/10 girl at 30+ is not exactly a flex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 12:36 PM |
| 23 | Do you believe the women on amiugly?If they're hot and claim they have never been asked out and that they had zero luck romantically it basically comes down to one of three things: a)they lie and just post on that sub to get validation and compliments, b)they are extremely introverted, extremely shy and have never left their house, or c)they have been asked out but not by the guys they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 12:09 PM |
| 1 | When guys claim their only problem is the lack of sex, we should believe them. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be so obsessive about not getting laid.Based and zherkapilled. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 05:43 PM |
| – | Do women prefer younger men for hookups? If not, why?Depends. Young women? Certainly not. 40+ women? Certainly yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 01:09 PM |
| – | Andrew Tate is the ideal role model young guys neededThe only downside of Andrew Tate is that he's not handsome. But besides that, he embodies every quality a woman loves, they just don't want to admit it. Tall, muscular? Check. Masculine and dominant? Check. Intelligent, charismatic, funny? Check. Arrogant, adventurous and risk taker? Check. Rich and famous? Check. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 01:03 PM |
| 1 | How there is still confusion in some men mind about women preference?Noone likes assholes. However, assholes usually have bigger balls and are more extroverted/have better social skills. That's pretty much why women prefer them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 10:40 AM |
| 1 | Men that are called trash by women are actually attractive enough to get women to give them casual sex in the hopes of a relationship in the future.No she is neither hot nor beautiful. Just average. That being said, obviously the guy is wrong, there are plenty of attractive asians. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 11:08 AM |
| 4 | Men that are called trash by women are actually attractive enough to get women to give them casual sex in the hopes of a relationship in the future.That's a fact, supported by numerous dating app studies. Asian women are the only women who have a strong preference for white men, and not asian men. Every other group of women, be it white or black or latinas, mostly prefer their own race, meaning their number one preference is guys of their own race. Kinda hilarious that they are the ones who bitch about "yellow fever", when they are the ones who are chasing white dudes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 11:06 AM |
| 11 | Men that are called trash by women are actually attractive enough to get women to give them casual sex in the hopes of a relationship in the future.This isn't possible. Have you ever heard a man whine and cry "she used me for sex and didn't commit to me, waaaah"? Yeah, me neither. It might happen once in a while when the planets align, but it's extremely extremely rare. The reality is that if a man got to fuck a woman, especially if she was hot, he doesn't really care if he gets ghosted afterwards. He got what he wanted anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 10:52 AM |
| 2 | Reviving A ClassicIn her dreams, maybe. Most of his assets at that point has already been passed down to his kids. Also, if he made it to 80yo and managed to amass significant wealth, he is probably neither stupid nor naive. He isn't getting married to a woman to give her rights over his estate, and certainly not a 50yo woman. At that age he is more likely to spend his money on young hookers, cocaine and viagra to go out with a bang, than spend it on some menopausal woman. I mean sure it might happen occassionall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 10:47 AM |
| 4 | Reviving A ClassicShe's 23, even if she had various bad habits, it wouldn't show on her face just yet. Unless she enjoyed eating 3 pizzas a day and gotten fat, that's the only thing that would have been instantly visible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 10:24 AM |
| 2 | Reviving A ClassicAn oracle and a prophet. Of course he got banned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 10:22 AM |
| 7 | Liberal woman wants a traditional man, but doesn't want to be a traditional woman. (post by @ncstaterepted)Exactly, but they'll never understand that. A man, if an opportuntity arises and it requires little effort and investment on his part, will have sex with almost any woman. However, obviously for anything serious, where a high amount of investment is required, his standards are way higher. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 13/06/23 12:27 AM |
| 9 | Liberal woman wants a traditional man, but doesn't want to be a traditional woman. (post by @ncstaterepted)At 40 her ability to have kids is almost gone. At 50 her sex drive plummets. So you're stuck with a woman who can't even further your genetic lineage and who doesn't even want to have sex much. Once those two things are out of the equation, there is no reason to get involved with a woman. Everything else she can offer can be gotten from family and friends instead, with less hassle, less headache and zero money. It's very simple, but they don't seem to be able to understand it. If a woman chooses… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 13/06/23 12:23 AM |
| 4 | No one falls in love with meUnfortunately therapy can't erase her desire for Chad. And after she's tasted Chad quite a few times, she's already past the point of no return. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 13/06/23 12:15 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Women age like milk while Men age like wine is a fallacy"While it's true that a woman's reproductive ability does end in her late thirties, you are willfully ignorant if you think age does not affect a man's reproductive capability. "A father's older age can cause schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, or autism spectrum disorder. The chances of having a premature baby may be higher." That's true. But that's also true for old eggs. Funny how you forgot all those studies. All these things you mentioned apply to old eggs as well. DNA deteriorates that's why … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/23 11:49 PM |
| 2 | Older men dating much younger womenDiscourage it? How? 23 year old Chad or 33 year old surgeon don't give a crap about the rest of the guys. It's a competition. Do you think they care about you? They'll bang your hot 23 year old crush either way. The game is set up in such a way that there are winners and losers. Losers don't get to dictate anything. Their only option is to become winners themselves, if they can. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 12:37 AM |
| 0 | Do near-average girls reject hot guys to direct them over to hot girls?Would I reject Elon Musk if he offered me 100mil for free? C'mon man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 12:32 AM |
| 2 | Pretty much every advice targeted at men is to make them to wait until they are too old to do anythingWhat you say is blatantly false. Noone is saying "completely ignore interactions with women and be a virgin until you're 35". Most people are saying "socialize with women, make your interest known, but don't waste excessive amounts of time pursuing and chasing women, because ultimately that doesn't work and you're just wasting time". You're focusing way too much on the status/money thing, which realistically can only be achieved later in life. Self improvement and "working on yourself" works at … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 12:29 AM |
| 4 | Older women who complain about age gap relationships are just jealousComplaining about that stuff seems stupid to me. It's not like most men can easily date women 10-15 years than them. It's only the chosen ones, namely the hot and/or rich ones. And women can just do the same if they want to. It's not like that option isn't available to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 12:15 AM |
| 1 | When women have bad relationships they are told to “pick better” but when men are, we assign blame to womenBack in the good golden days of old, it was marriage first, sex later. Now we live in an era where we have put the sex part before the relationships/marriage part, so ultimately since women are the gatekeepers of sex, the ones who decide if and when sex happens, they also have by default more responsibility. I am not saying men are not responsible to some degree, but women have most of the responsibility now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 11:22 PM |
| 1 | If you aren't Red Pill or Black Pill are you Blue Pill by default ?Theoretically you can be a mix of two of them or even a mix of all three of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 11:17 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Dating gets harder - not easier - for men as they ageDepends what you mean by "dating". Casual sex is easier to obtain for women up until they are at least 50 or something. That's a fact. But long term relationships? Generally it's equally hard for both, however, for some guys it gets easier later if they attain high success, because quite simply money and status matters way more for men than women when it comes to anything longterm. Also, there is the fertility issue, realistically men have like 8-10 years more if they want to start a family and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 11:06 PM |
| 1 | What are the most effecient ways to improve SMV for both men and women?Plastic surgery | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 10:48 PM |
| -2 | Men are more superficial about weight than womenMaybe on the short term. But on the longterm the field is pretty equally leveled. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 05:16 AM |
| 8 | Men are more superficial about weight than womenMen burn more calories, but they also need more calories, because they are bigger. Average caloric maintenance for the average guy is 2500, while for the average woman is 2000. So yes a woman burns less calories at rest, because she is smaller but she also needs less calories. I don't know what you're trying to argue here. That the average man doesn't get fat if he eats 2500 calories, while the average woman will get fat if she eats 2500 calories? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 05:00 AM |
| 3 | Men are more superficial about weight than womenYeah but they are also bigger than women and need more calories to sustain all that, what's your point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 04:38 AM |
| 1 | Men are more superficial about weight than womenYou're wildly uninformed and clueless. It's not scientifically harder for women to lose weight, that's just rubbish. Also, yes women hold more bodyfat than men, but realistically the ideal male body vs. the ideal female body don't have the same bodyfat. A male needs to be 10-12% to have significant abdominal definition for example. A woman needs to be 17-19% to have the same abdominal definition. This happens because men store more fat centrally, around the waist basically, while women store mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 04:28 AM |
| 17 | Men who engage in sexual tourism with a GDP less than half of their country's are abnormalDepends on the guy's money. He might be a peasant in the US, but an aristocrat somewhere else. And that in itself will increase his chances tremendously. Sure, there is a chance he might get fucked either way. But there is a huge difference between getting fucked by a 33 plain looking woman and a 23 year old hottie. At least in one case, you actually got to enjoy it while it lasted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 10:26 PM |
| 2 | CMV: It's perfectly valid for men to want a low N woman BECAUSE he's insecure about his sexual performance compared to all of her other loversThe "you're insecure" response is usually a cop out. Thing is you can use that response for literally anything. "Oh you don't want me to go to the club and get wasted? You're insecure!" "Oh you don't want me to hang out with Chad and Tyrone, my best buddies? You're insecure!" "Oh you don't want me to wear revealing clothing with my tatas and legs on full display? You're insecure!" "Oh you don't want to eat my anus? You're insecure!" "Oh you don't want to kiss me after you came in my mouth? You'r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 03:58 AM |
| – | Self Improvement, what's the point?Improvements to appearance help with women of all ages to a significant degree. Same exact thing when it comes to social skills. Money/status usually only matters to a significant degree to women 27+. So it's not like all self improvement is useless. And even when it comes to money/status, most people want to eventually start a family and have kids, so even if the woman finds you a hot Chad, eventually your money will matter. Because if you're an 8 who makes 50k/year, and near you there is a 7, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 03:51 AM |
| 3 | Women are just as visual as men. It's just that most men don't elicit this type of attractionYes women are as visual as men. But women also like men have no big variance when it comes to appeal. This is actually one of the greatest lies perpetuated in the manosphere. Yeah men might f*ck almost anyone, assuming it takes little to no effort and investment, because sex drive is high and it beats your hand and a 4k corn video, but when they are going to invest and put effort in a woman, you better bet their standards are as high if not more than women, at least when it comes to physical att… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 10:50 PM |
| 1 | Women over value how much their career and education is attractive to menEveryone knows there are way less male gold diggas than female gold diggas, and ultimately that's all the evidence you need. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 10:36 PM |
| 19 | The Pew Relationships Survey Results Are Probably Wrong & So Is The 'Chad Harem' ExplanationPeople should just define what they mean by "Chad's harem". A guy who bangs 1 girl every other week, which equals to 24 women a year, is a Chad. A guy who enters situationship after situationship, each one lasting one month, which equals to 12 women a year, is a Chad. In just 5 years, the first guy has banged 120 women, while the other guy has banged 60 women. Now if we let's say assume that the average male lifetime bodycount is 10 for simplicity's sake, you can see the huge difference in numbe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 05:03 AM |
| 1 | Who's more aesthetic: men or women?Well, if aesthetics are like IQ, then men dominate both ends of the aesthetics spectrum. The most beautiful human and the most ugly human on the planet right now are more likely to be men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 12:09 AM |
| 39 | CMV : A woman can almost ALWAYS find a better option within a couple of months of trying, so why would they settle?The average woman has more options when it comes to casual sex than the average man, meaning she can get sex far easier and usually with partners who rank higher than her in the hierarchy, as long as she doesn't require high effort and investment. But for anything longterm, her options are just as crappy as the average man's. And they will keep getting crappier the more she ages, because a woman's looks is by a huge margin her most important asset whether it's for short term or long term relatio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/23 12:51 PM |
| 1 | What is hypergamy?I am on the David Buss ship on this. The dual mating strategy doesn't sound a great strategy to me. Nowadays it's very hard to pull off with the advent of DNA testing. In the olden days, it might have been instant death for both her and her offsprings, if she was caught. Also, the better genes might be easy to discern between two 25 year old men who are at their physical prime so to say, but significantly harder to discern between a 25 year old man and a 45 year old man. Statistically the 45 yea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/23 08:08 AM |
| 2 | What is hypergamy?Modernity has complicated things because status and wealth can to some extent be inherited nowadays, so men who are typically incompetent in every single aspect, can somehow still end up at the top. Also, men who completely lack physical prowess, meaning mostly outward physical traits, but rank high in intelligence/cunningness can nowadays ascend in status far easier than in ancient times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/23 07:50 AM |
| -1 | What is hypergamy?Hypergamy in the traditional sense is basically dating across and preferably up in socioeconomic status, which essentially is money and social standing. It has nothing to do with things like looks, intelligence or character/personality. However, in reality, I think the true answer is more complicated than that. And here is my hypothesis. Women biologically primarily try to secure a mate for security and provision, which will ensure the survival of both her and the offspring. I hypothesize that t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/23 07:10 AM |
| – | Why aren't men hypergamous?Hypergamy in the traditional definition is the tendency to date across and up in socioeconomic status. By that definition, men are not hypergamous, since they date across and down. However, when a woman is hypergamous and dates significantly up in socioeconomic status, the man usually dates up in looks. So in essence, yes men are "hypergamous" in a way as well. It's pretty evident if you go outside. Most couples are of similar physical attractiveness or the woman is more attractive. You'll very … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/23 06:15 AM |
| 6 | For the first time, a major Red Pill content creator has admitted that the popular RP claim of a third of young men not having sex while women are relatively unaffected isn't true, citing modern data showing less than 20% of men being sexually inactive and more young women sexually inactive than menChris is not a red pill content creator. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 10:25 PM |
| 3 | Fashion and Models with morbid obesityThere are tons of obese people nowadays. Fashion brands are trying to make money of those people obviously, that's why they do it. Does it affect standards of attractiveness? Lmao, no. Does it inflate attractiveness for women? Also, no. Men have eyes. Unless we go blind, it won't change a thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 08:19 PM |
| – | It’s extremely rude to try to fix someone up with someone significantly less attractive than them, yet 99% of the time when a woman “wants you to meet someone” this is the case.That's why you ask for pics first and then if you like what you see, you proceed. It's pretty simple really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 08:13 PM |
| 15 | Exposing men's hipocrisy by using something like ChadfishingGuys indeed prefer a woman with "light perfectly applied makeup that looks natural" and "plastic surgery that isn't obvious but looks natural", because they actually can't tell it is fake. They just don't like when it's overdone and looks 100% fake. Big fake eyelashes and fingernails and oversized boobjobs and BBLs don't look good at all. If you can easily tell it's fake, it looks unattractive for most guys. As for the photo you provided, I personally think I'd go for the woman on the left. I am… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 11:56 PM |
| 2 | Exposing men's hipocrisy by using something like ChadfishingWell the inside sometimes count, you know. Some vaginas are tighter, have better texture, are more well lubricated and have the exact ideal depth for your peepee. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 11:05 PM |
| 54 | Exposing men's hipocrisy by using something like ChadfishingI've thought long and hard about it, but I got nothing, OP, sorry. Probably because men are usually more blunt and honest and aren't afraid to be seen as shallow and less politically correct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 11:03 PM |
| 1 | is what germaine greer actaully says true?We'll have artificial wombs pretty soon I think. Also, if we were able to synthesize artificial sperm as this moron suggests, we'd also probably be able to synthesize artificial eggs as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 09:56 PM |
| 1 | Is there such a thing as hot girl hobbies?Hot girl hobbies: gymratting, clubbing, dining at fancy restaurants and traveling and shopping with another man's credit card | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 09:47 PM |
| 2 | Q4M - How many average women have you had serious crushes on?I'll go against the grain and be the only honest man here, and say maybe one. And that one happened to have an exceptional body, so you could only call her "average" if you're not taking into account the body. That's about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 09:45 PM |
| 5 | What is the source of men's motivation for working hard?Men grind and climb the competence hierarchy in order to get access to more women or higher quality women and to sustain their families and their offsprings. Reproduction and passing on your genes is arguably the biggest motivator. If we didn't have penises or women didn't exist, noone would buy mansions and lambos. We'd all be staying in 1 bedroom apartments, working the bare minimum to survive and playing video games or having beers with friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 04:58 AM |
| 1 | People who are casual about sex get laid more often than people who aren'tYou're not being a pioneer here. It makes sense that men who are comfortable, confident, have less inhibitions, have quite a bit of sexual experience and have good social skills are going to have an easier time getting sex compared to a shy awkward guy with little to no sexual experience who overthinks and overanalyzes everything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 09:03 PM |
| 1 | Men can't determine whether a woman is " post wall" or even overweight/obeseIf we assume the wall is at 30, then yeah obviously you can't tell sometimes if the woman is 28 or 32. But when it comes to obesity and overweight, we have eyes, we can tell easily, arguing otherwise is stupid. Unless we are under the influence of psychedelic mushrooms or are almost blind without our glasses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 08:55 PM |
| 1 | There are two camps of people in this world , those who swear women have high standards and those who swear they don’t . What causes that different point of view ?Hypergamy refers to socioeconomic status not looks if we're going by the classical definition, so men can't be hypergamous. But otherwise, you're correct. Men, when it comes to longterm, date across and up in looks. And I don't think anyone lies about it. It also makes sense. If a woman is dating up in social standing and income, then the man has to benefit as well in some way, otherwise hypergamy doesn't work. If the man is better than the woman in everything, there is no incentive for him to c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 09:23 AM |
| 3 | There are two camps of people in this world , those who swear women have high standards and those who swear they don’t . What causes that different point of view ?The redpill recognizes the importance of looks though. Quoting you "Women care about looks more, money, status". Looks is one big part of it, arguably the biggest part of it. So those guys Destiny calls "losers" were probably broke guys who were hot and socially competent, thus it doesn't disprove anything the other camp is saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 09:06 AM |
| 6 | There are two camps of people in this world , those who swear women have high standards and those who swear they don’t . What causes that different point of view ?Destiny on that clip says "I know a lot of women irl who has invested on fucking losers". What you fail to realize is that he defines loser by basically being broke and having little ambition. What he doesn't tell you is how do those guys looked like and how socially competent they were. Because if they were hot, had balls and good social skills, basically Chads, then it all makes sense. The redpill still applies since we're talking about exceptional looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 08:56 AM |
| 2 | Women are valued for what they doClassic case of people confusing "overall value" with "mating value". You can rank high on the first one and low on the second one. Same exact thing is also true for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 06:19 PM |
| 5 | Redpill dudes, do you actually believe rich men date broke women?Joe Rogan's wife was the exact same thing lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 02:48 AM |
| 7 | Redpill dudes, do you actually believe rich men date broke women?Not sure why people struggle to get their mind around this very simple fact. I see it asked again and again. The reality is that the vast majority of men vastly prioritize looks, and rarely care about the income/status of a woman. All men know this, and the men who pretend otherwise are either lying or deluding themselves because they can't get the woman they want. I mean can it be even more obvious? The hot girl enters a room, where do all men look at and keep looking at? I am having doubts whe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 02:36 AM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: Do you know any men that previously had no success with women and were able to find it? Why do you think so many men believe that is impossible?Most dudes who have little to zero success with women are usually shy, overanalyze/overthink things way too much due to lack of sexual experience, don't socialize much so they don't meet women, have poor social skills due to the fact they don't socialize much with women, and/or are too stubborn and don't want to fuck the occassional mid chick that wants them in order to start getting some experience so that they actually don't fuck it up with the chick they actually want later on. Now obviously … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 02:15 AM |
| 2 | CMV: If makeup vanished overnight, the game would change drastically.Those people most likely lie to you, because the chances of you looking 10 years younger than your age are slim. Everyone on the internet somehow claims the same thing that they look "way younger". And every time they post pics, the result rarely backs their claim. That being said, if you indeed look 10 years younger than your age, then it's all genetics and good habits(not smoking and avoid too much sun for example), not some miracle cream. A couple of studies have shown that people age at diff… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 07:39 AM |
| 5 | CMV: If makeup vanished overnight, the game would change drastically.I'll be the devil advocate's here and come out and say it: those "anti aging" creams and face masks are a scam. Water, sunscreen and maybe some facial soap is all you need. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 07:03 AM |
| 23 | Marriage is not worth it for women who do not marry richYour argument falls flat on its face when you consider the fact that most women, like most men, eventually want family and kids. And being a single mother is far worse than being with a man who is not rich. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 09:37 AM |
| 1 | Who stands more of a chance - women who've been 'fuck-zoned' or men who've been 'friend-zoned'?Value is not static and can be changed, so theoretically both can stand a chance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 07:34 AM |
| 2 | Obsession about looks is delusionLooks is step 1. What you're describing is step 2, step 3, step 4 etc. But if you can't get past step 1, all of that is pointless. So what are you arguing here exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 07:24 AM |
| 2 | Everything TRP states is true, but only for low-socio social circlesYou're contradicting yourself. On one hand, you say the celebrities are low class even if they became rich and famous. Then you say: "Lower class (men and women) try to achieve status with cheap short term measures, such as deceptions, buying status symbols, bragging over building up status over years and decades." I mean do you think those celebrities became famous and very rich in like a year or something? It took decades of work in the majority of cases. So which one is it? Lmao. What's your … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 07:21 AM |
| 12 | The evidence is staring her in the face, and everyone around her tells her what she's doing wrong, but she still can't put 2 and 2 together.I am getting tired of this thing on the internet that everyone pretends to look younger than their age. If you do indeed younger than your age, you'll probably look 5-6 years younger, not 15-16 years younger. She probably looks like a 36 year old woman instead of a 41 year old woman, still a huge difference from a 26 year old woman. She blames the "psychology" of men, when in reality, after 40 her chances of having kids are slim to none, so men who want those things are off the table. Those who … | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 26/05/23 02:38 AM |
| 12 | The evidence is staring her in the face, and everyone around her tells her what she's doing wrong, but she still can't put 2 and 2 together.If they have money, they'll probably be banging young hot escorts. I heavily doubt men in the 60+ range are looking to date... especially 60+ year old women. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 26/05/23 02:14 AM |
| 11 | Dating as a “mid” woman isn’t as easy as most men make it out to beI mean then what was the point of the post? I am saying that it's generally far easier for a mid woman, when it comes to casual sex. Same difficulty as an average man when it comes to relationship, except the few times we are talking about overachieving individuals, but those are a small subset of average men, so do they even count? Sleeping with a guy who is mildly attracted to you in a ONS/situationship is the same exact thing as marrying a woman who is with you mainly for the money and is mil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 11:25 PM |
| 14 | Dating as a “mid” woman isn’t as easy as most men make it out to beBeing a mid woman is far easier than being a mid man, when it comes to casual sex at least. Sure the 9/10 man might not drop down his standards so much in most cases to bang a 5/10 woman. But that 5/10 can easily have sex with a 7//10, which is a significant gap in physical attractiveness. A 5/10 man will have a much much harder time if he wants to sleep with a 7/10 woman. When it comes to actual relationships, average women and average men have the exact same options, more or less, in most case… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 10:32 PM |
| 2 | CMV : Its the badness in and of itself that women find attractive in badboys, not the strength and confidence it representsJust like they said narcissism is being seen as confidence and charisma. Machiavellianism might be seen as high intelligence I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:46 PM |
| – | Pretty much every advice targeted at men is to make them to wait until they are too old to do anythingWorking on yourself is not bad advice. I mean what other advice is there to give? That's the only advice that might improve your chances. Also, let's be honest, noone says "don't approach women" or "don't socialize with women". The advice they give is basically "make your interest known, but don't chase or pursue women, because in the vast majority of cases you'll just waste your time doing it, time that is better spent elsewhere". Which also to me sounds like pretty sound advice. Women will put… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:36 PM |
| 0 | How do redpillers explain the engagement of jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez?Jeffrey Bezos is a beyta cuck, obviously. He might be a mastermind when it comes to money and business, but certainly not when it comes to relationships and women. That's why he lost like 40 billion in his last divorce. You could already see the lust in Lauren's eyes when she met Leonardo Dicaprio. If Bezos gave her the go, she'd jump in bed with Leo any day of the week. As the Great Prophet of the Manosphere, Andrew Tate, once said: "Money amplifies. If you're a geek and you become very rich, y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:25 PM |
| 0 | CMV : Its the badness in and of itself that women find attractive in badboys, not the strength and confidence it representsYes I admit I am not very well versed in the subject of the dark triad. But saying only narcissism "measured favourably" seems pretty wrong to me. "Machiavellianism is a personality trait that denotes cunningness, the ability to be manipulative, and a drive to use whatever means necessary to gain power" Seems pretty significant to me. And I can see why it will favourably increase your chances. Being cunning definitely helps you in the dating market. Psychopathy is obviously more debatable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:11 PM |
| 1 | Most women don't need a "hoe phase" for the 80/20 argument to holdI don't think the majority of women are looking for casual sex, like thinking "I'm going to go out just to find a guy and f*ck". That's probably a small percentage of women, 15% or below is most likely my estimate. Most women, probably like 40-60%, end up in casual situationships, because after they meet a guy they then think that by sleeping with a guy, they'll make him more likely to commit. What they don't know is that for a guy whether he is commiting or not in most cases is pretty clear fro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:02 PM |
| 1 | Women claim that men are not trying that hard, and men claim they tried too hard... this is a possible explanation and solutionConcise and precise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 02:46 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Its the badness in and of itself that women find attractive in badboys, not the strength and confidence it representsWomen, especially young women, love drama and dark triad traits. It is what it is. Nothing new here. Maybe instead of looksmaxxing, people should start darktriadmaxxing lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 02:38 PM |
| 0 | Both genders are really bad at gauging what “average” looks like when it comes to discussions about looks and ratingsOlivia Munn and Natalie Portman are significantly above average. Emma Watson to me looks mid, like maybe at best slightly above average, like a 6. She has a good side profile, but from the front she looks pretty plain to me, it's the chin and lips that ruin her face for me. I consider her one of the most overrated celebrities looks wise along with Jennifer Aniston. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 12:04 AM |
| 12 | Does PUA actually work?If you want to do well with women, you obviously have to have good social skills and confidence. But I heavily doubt those skills actually increase your chances significantly. It's not really a big plus if you have them, it's just a huge minus if you don't have them. The only reason you see some questionable looking PUA artists have success with women is because: a)they are playing the numbers game and are spending a huge amount of time on it, and b)they approach and meet women in environments w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 11:49 PM |
| 5 | Why does it seem that blue collar and “average Joe” men have an easier time with female romantic partnership than money making STEM or forum guys?Stemlords are usually introverts, have poor social skills, and have higher IQ on average, which makes them prone to overanalyzing/overthinking and being afraid of taking risks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 02:16 AM |
| – | Being an orbiter does provide some benefitsPreselection+access to her hotter friends. Basically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 02:14 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Dating gets harder for men as they get older, not easierThere is significantly less sexlessness in the 30+ group, so dating does get easier for men in general. For some men, the overachievers, it gets way easier. And for the Chads, obviously it was always easy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 02:11 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Sugar dating is a perfectly viable and maybe even recommendable dating strategy for some men and womenDepends on the guy. If he is like 45+, divorced, already had kids, and has money to spend, then yes it's a pretty good option I think, arguably the best option for some guys. Another option is obviously escorts, which are probably cheaper, hassle free and require less time investment. The big difference I think is that you can probably negotiate some things with the sugar baby. Like exclusivity and raw sex... if you pay a lot of course. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 06:28 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Do you want women to think you are easy?Not hot guys, it's most guys. Even if you're let's say a 5 to quantify it, you can easily have sex with a 3 or 4 for example. There is no merit in getting in a relationship with any of those women, you can have sex with those without any investment. You'll only invest if you consider the woman at least a 5. The only situation where I can see your argument pan out is that it's his first relationship and strictly for practice. Then yeah, the guy might go below his level. But that's usually a one t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 06:20 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Do you want women to think you are easy?Eh that's debatable. The vast majority of guys are easy, if it takes little to no effort, and it's just for casual sex. That's the caveat. Men actually have significantly higher standards for relationships, when it comes to looks especially. You'll very rarely see a hot guy with a plain looking woman on the street. Usually couples are of similar physical attractiveness or the woman is more attractive. It's for the exact same reason, women tend to date across and up when it comes to money and sta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 05:18 PM |
| -1 | Men dont actually care about a women being healthyMost men don't like very skinny girls or girls that are at very low bodyfat where there is a lot of vascularity and shredded abs are showing. They prefer slim thick, at least that's how they call it nowadays I think. Hourglass shape, fairly fit, with decently sized tits and butt. Men don't go for women with a lot of plastic surgery. They go for women who are attractive. If the plastic surgery is masterfully done and is not obvious, it makes little difference compared to a woman who was naturally… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 04:34 PM |
| -1 | I regularly see women say on here that men overrate their own appearance, but women are guilty of this to a significantly higher degree.Both might overrate their physical attractiveness. The difference is that men will be quickly and bluntly checked for it and readjust eventually, but women won't. Men have to deal with overt rejection. Women have to deal with covert rejection. Men for example don't shower their friends with false compliments and false hope if their friend is obese. They tell it to his face "hey man you're fat, work out and lose weight". Women on the other hand always try to avoid conflict and might tell their fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 04:26 PM |
| 8 | I regularly see women say on here that men overrate their own appearance, but women are guilty of this to a significantly higher degree.You had me, until you mentioned Angelina Jolie, who is actually very conventionally attractive. She might be built like a scarecrow when it comes to body, but her face is very highly attractive. Jennifer, on the other hand, looks like a generic 6, a bit above average, but that's it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 04:15 PM |
| 0 | How do you think feminism and general push for gender equality has changed the way relationships are now? Did it change for better or for worse?Kids are for society's benefit, the population pyramid has started to get inverted and we have more old people than young people, and in a few decades you'll see the negative consequences of that. But the vast majority of people who have kids aren't doing it for society's benefit. Not that hard to understand. Do people work for society's benefit? Or do people work to make money and benefit themselves? Obviously, most people work because of the latter, but by doing so, and offering products and s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 03:47 PM |
| 23 | Porn is the main cause of the recent decline in relationships and sexFilmed misogyny? Lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 02:12 AM |
| 0 | How do you think feminism and general push for gender equality has changed the way relationships are now? Did it change for better or for worse?Lmao, you don't have kids to increase the population. You have kids to continue your genetic lineage, because ultimately that's your only legacy. That applies to at least 99.999% of people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 12:42 AM |
| 2 | Is this true?She's kinda right, but love is not the correct word to use. She means attraction. If the guy is not really attracted to a woman, the relationship will rarely work out. Usually it will go down in flames really fast. From a guy's perspective, the foundation of a relationship is built on raw attraction, only if that foundation is there, can the relationship flourish. | /r/RedPillWomen | 19/05/23 09:21 PM |
| 42 | Q4M: Do you want women to think you are easy?It's a fact that the vast majority of guys are easy. Is this really a question? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 08:52 PM |
| 41 | Porn is the main cause of the recent decline in relationships and sexThe vast majority of men obviously prefer the real thing. If that's not an option, they'll masturbate to porn. Young men have high sex drive. It's that simple really. I don't think there are many people who are masturbating to porn relentlessly every day that it decreases their motivation to pursue women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 08:42 PM |
| 0 | How do you think feminism and general push for gender equality has changed the way relationships are now? Did it change for better or for worse?Marriage rates and birth rates are plummeting. A lot of those births take place in single parent households. The answer is obvious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 08:30 PM |
| 2 | Young Men Cannot Compete With Older Men For The Most Attractive FemalesDepends on whether someone is a Chad or not. Young broke Chad vs. older rich Chad? Well older Chad wins. If the older guy isn't a Chad, it can go both ways, probably leaning a bit more towards the young broke Chad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 08:39 PM |
| 2 | I think it's bullshit that there's a "compliment gap" between men and women. What these men really want is sexual validation.Men want to feel desired. Saying to a guy "you're so funny", or "you're so intelligent", or "you're so kind" or whatever, does nothing to make him feel desired. Not feeling desired means you failed on the most basic level, you're a genetic dead end, reproductively speaking. This also applies to women. Very evident between sisters or friends. One is hot and receives plenty of compliments about her appearance, which makes her feel desired. And another one only receives compliments about let's say … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 08:04 PM |
| 5 | Men often don’t understand that physical attraction is not optionalI don't think this is news to anyone. Chad always wins. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 07:58 PM |
| 1 | Both men and women would be happier if they quit using dating apps.Dating apps have definitely affected dating, but social media like instagram have affected dating way way more. Things like instagram is the real issue. It gives women(and men) access to people who would never had access before. It also eliminates the anxiety of the first interaction and greatly lessens the risk of rejection and the impact of rejection. Say a woman in a small college town saw a man out in the club who she was really attracted to. Usually if the guy didn't approach her, that woul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/23 10:37 AM |
| 2 | CMV Eastern Europe Women care way less about looks then women in the west.I don't think they care less about looks, they just don't engage in casual sex as much or trying to use sex in order to lock down the man inevitably ending up in a situationship that goes nowhere. Even in the west, if you take a good look at most couples, who are actually in a relationship, you'll notice that either the man and the woman are of similar attractiveness or the woman is more attractive. You'll very rarely see a hot dude with a plain looking woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/23 10:20 AM |
| 1 | Would you marry someone that was not very bright?How dumb are we talking here? Average intelligence? Slightly below average? Or significantly below average? As long as she's not too stupid, I'd take her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/23 10:13 AM |
| – | If women really like you they’ll approach you. How much truth is there to this?They'll give you signals, however those signals are very often not easy to discern. As for them actually approaching you, it rarely happens, even if you are a very good looking dude. And if they do approach someone, it's usually when they are high and/or drunk in a nightlife environment, certainly not in daytime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 06:59 PM |
| 1 | Girls and guys don't have much difference other than being pressured by gender roles and norms.Absolute nonsense. Women and men aren't the same. Not physically. Not mentally. Not psychologically. Men usually have way more muscle mass, are taller, have bigger lung capacity, higher bone density, larger stroke volume, for example. While women can obviously give birth. Men have much faster reaction times and better spatial awareness on average, while women are usually better at multitasking on average. If you knew anything about psychology, you'd know that men generally rank higher in certain… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 06:52 PM |
| 3 | CMV : For a woman to want to commit most of her mortal life to a man and grant him exclusive access, he SHOULD be pretty impressive, not just a guy who existsUnimpressive women can rent a rich Chad for a night or two, but they can't buy a rich Chad, they can't afford him. Only impressive women can actually buy a rich Chad. It's like renting a lamborghini for the weekend versus buying a lamborghini. One will cost you like 2k, the other costs 300k. A lot of people have 2k, not many have 300k to drop for a car. Unimpressive women can stay single and keep renting Chads until their currency(looks) runs out, while unimpressive men can stay single and rent … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 06:42 PM |
| – | As RPW, what are your opinions on age gap relationships?10 years? Fine. 15 years? You're pushing it. 23 years? The chances of the logistics working are slim to none. Unless he looks like Henry Cavill and is ultra rich, then do whatever you want. | /r/RedPillWomen | 11/05/23 09:51 AM |
| 1 | No one ever seems to want to acknowledge that women consistently go for abusive, bad natured men. If you bring this up all they do is shame you to silence the discussion, and this is probably the most prominent example of gaslighting in dating/gender dynamics.Only partially correct. There are definitely some guys of questionable character, appearance and mental stability that get a lot of hot women, like DJs and street pharmacists well connected in nightlife. But most of these "abusers" are just hot charismatic/extroverted guys who don't treat women just how women expect to be treated because these men know they can easily get women who are as hot or hotter, so they treat them as replaceable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:12 AM |
| 1 | 50 shades and me too?If you're hot, rich and charming -> you arouse the 50 shades of gray part of her brain. If you're meh looking, 50k/year wagey and socially awkward -> you arouse the metoo part of her brain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 08:58 AM |
| 2 | Men cant be mad when women take half their stuff if they marry broke womenOf course it's a myth, but somehow we are still parroting this BS. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 12:24 PM |
| 40 | Q4M: How do you define “fat”?Those women look fat to me. End of story. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 01:34 PM |
| 3 | Is sex tourism a hidden gem for men who want causal sex?He can just fuck prostitutes like he loves them. Problem fixed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 08:18 AM |
| -1 | Q4M: I think your rating scale miscalibrated when talking about "average women". Which of these women is average to you?5, 4, 3. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 08:13 AM |
| 2 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostI was specifically talking about the Chads. Stacies can be meek and shy and it won't make much difference in their outcomes. It might actually be more beneficial to them because it shows to the guy that she is less likely to be sleeping around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 05:44 AM |
| 1 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostThe wholesome ones are usually either mediocre looking or good looking, but meek, shy and lack good social skills. That's why they struggle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 03:35 AM |
| 1 | CMV The Domination of online dating, leads to less and less variety in Men. More and more Men are the „same“. I really wanna discuss this.Men will always gravitate to what works in order to get laid. It is what it is. When I was in university, most guys were rocking fuckboi haircuts(low on the sides with a fade, some hair on top to style) and beard. You went out to any establishment, whether it was a cafe, a restaurant, a bar or a club, and most of the young guys were rocking that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 03:29 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Socioeconomic status can offset bad/mediocre looks in men and is a huge component of your SMVThe redpill/blackpill argument against this is that it's not "genuine desire" and they are just looking to extract resources out of you and elevate their own status, then leave you. That being said, money/status game can work even for casual sex. If a woman is let's say 27+ and is at the age where she is intentionally looking for a husband, you can use that to your advantage to entice her and sleep with her. The good thing about the sexual liberation and the fact that we've put sex before commit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 03:19 AM |
| 2 | Women want more sex while in relationships and men want more sex when not in relationshipsThe only time women want more sex when in a relationship is when they are in a relationship with Chad. For the rest, the sex slowly dies out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 02:16 AM |
| 3 | Men, under what (hypothetical) conditions would you become a sex worker?Under no condition at all. I am simply not doing it, ever, even if I am going to starve and die. Unless we are talking purely fantastical scenarios, like being paid 1 billion dollars. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 02:11 AM |
| 3 | It makes perfect sense to wait for sex if you want a long term relationship.Piss poor strategy. Do you think a desirable guy, with at least some options, will intentionally stay celibate for months waiting for you? Obviously not. Unless you're like a virgin, then it's understandable. But if you're not, it ain't happening the vast majority of the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/23 02:48 AM |
| 1 | Is Fresh and Fit over? Is the Red pill movement taking another loss? Is Aba and Preach going to make a video soon?The Tates are on a leash at the moment, so what exactly did you expect them to say? Once they are completely free, then they'll start talking more and streaming more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/23 02:26 AM |
| – | CMV Since the Andrew Tate mindset GUARANTEES succes with women, its very hard for many off his fans to not support him and believe himThe problem with people today is that they use their ears and not their eyes. Your ears can be easily deceived, but your eyes in the vast majority of cases can't. You go out, you socialize, you observe and you can easily tell what type of guy pulls the most women and the hottest women. It's the guys who look good. The guys who have big balls and charisma. The guys with tons of money and fame/status. Those are the guys who are the most successful. "Be yourself", "be nice" and "have a nice persona… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 05:02 AM |
| 1 | Many men who have nothing going for them and are low value try to get high value or attractive women, and then complain and moan that they’re “alone forever” but don’t ever lower their standards.I was ready to comment and debunk all this made up stuff, but then I read "jaw exercises" and I was like... nevermind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 04:28 AM |
| – | Women Control Sexual (Not Relationship) Market At All AgesWomen control the casual sex market up to at least 50. The reason for that is that when men are looking for casual sex they aren't asking "is she hot?", they are asking "is she bangable?". There is always a decent looking guy who is willing to go dumpster diving. He'll fuck the overweight 20 year old and he'll fuck the granny looking 50 year old. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/23 11:56 PM |
| 2 | I cannot understand why any person looking for a serious relationship would not support the FDS 3-month for sex strategy.If she's consistent and has done the same in the past for all the guys she was involved with, understandable and fair. If she's not consistent and gave it away to Chad and Tyrone after a couple of beers on a slow Tuesday, then the guy who she makes wait hopefully is also keeping his peepee busy with other women while he's waiting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/23 11:52 PM |
| 2 | TikTok gender swap pill: Women surprised that most of them look like unattractive menGirl has been getting porked by Chads for 10 years. Guy hasn't seen a real vagina in his life for the last 25 years. Lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/23 11:29 PM |
| 1 | TikTok gender swap pill: Women surprised that most of them look like unattractive menSo good looking girls turn into good looking guys. Perhaps OP's example wasn't as good looking as she thought lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/23 11:26 PM |
| 2 | Men Who Want A Family Are Biologically Forced To Date Women Under Roughly 35-43Exactly. You either win or you lose. That's it. Men go overwhelmingly for looks, thus younger women. If the guy won the genetic lottery and looks like Henry Cavill at 40, he'll leverage his looks. If he isn't, but has a lot of money, he'll leverage his money to get what he wants. Ultimately, if it's consentual and legal, who cares? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/23 11:21 PM |
| – | If she is on a relationship for money with an older man, the man still gets a better deal.. unless there is divorceIt's an even trade, as long as cheating and divorce don't happen. The guy gets a young hot woman and the woman gets a guy far richer than she could otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/23 11:00 PM |
| 2 | Money is SEVERELY overratedDebatable. This might be technically true, but without seeing those people and how they look, it's all theorizing. Guys, when given the option, always go for looks. If a guy is a 5/10 multimillionaire, he might pick a 7/10 multimillionaire woman over a 8/10 broke wagie. But between a 5/10 multimillionaire and a 7/10 broke wagie, he'll pick the wagie. It's not really rocket science. Men overwhelmingly prioritize looks, even if said girl is a gold digga. That's just reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/23 10:54 PM |
| 7 | Money is SEVERELY overratedYou're definitely in a better position, but yeah barely any difference going from 60k to 100k. It's around 300-400k where it starts making a significant difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 01:40 AM |
| 16 | Money is SEVERELY overratedA lot of money can get you hot pussy to fuck and hot pussy to impregnate. If before the money you never even had that options, you are now in an objectively far better position. So saying money is overrated is absolute nonsense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 12:03 AM |
| 1 | Women saying it's hard for them to find a man to 'commit' is pure hypocrisyNothing. Nothing they bring can compare to Chad's towering height of 6'4, his mathematically and scientifically perfect face, his muscular physique sculpted by Hephaestus himself, and his oversized appendage that can even put thoroughbred stallions to shame. They are free to make it their life's goal to pursue Chad. Perhaps it's even a noble goal. Titles like "I dedicated my whole life in the pursuit of Chad" sound pretty cool for the autobiography of an old lady. A future new york times best se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 11:37 PM |
| 19 | Women saying it's hard for them to find a man to 'commit' is pure hypocrisyI mean c'mon buddy. So you claim there was this 29 year old "model" whose only requirements were "loyal" and "working balls and penis", and she was searching for years and couldn't find the man she wants? I mean do you seriously think anyone would believe this. There are hordes of men who fulfill those requirements, literally hordes. How the f*ck did she miss all those guys from 15 to 29? How? Is it even possible? It's like going out in a city and not seeing one single car. The only reasonable e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 11:23 PM |
| 1 | Men's SMV doesn't actually increase with aging.They use what they have to get what they want. Is it pathetic? Maybe. Do they care when they're still winning? Probably not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 10:50 PM |
| 1 | Many young people nowadays say dating is more trouble than it's worthAt that point, just work a few extra shifts at your local mcdonalds or something, and bang an escort. At least she'll be young and hot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 07:58 AM |
| 2 | Where's the insentive for a woman to have low body count?I appreciate your sarcasm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 07:41 AM |
| 2 | Where's the insentive for a woman to have low body count?Is this even a serious question? The answer is pretty obvious. Men prefer women with low body count overwhelmingly. But by having a low body count, you can only outcompete women of similar physical attractiveness or maybe a bit higher. If you're average, you aren't getting a rich gigachad even if you are the queen of virgins. Only a low bodycount/virgin stacy can get that guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 07:34 AM |
| 1 | What effect do you think video games are having on male dating and mental health?Just playing video games? No. Playing video games all day long? Yes. I mean playing video games is just like watching a movie or a tv series or reading a book or watching some fools chasing a ball or tons of other examples. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 07:29 AM |
| 1 | Moderately successful men in their 30s with very limited dating experience, have to be a very harsh decision to take1)Cap. The vast majority of men care. If they don't, it's along the lines of let's say the guy being with 2 women, while the woman has been with 5 guys... not 20 or 30 guys. 2)Also cap, there are significantly more male virgins than female virgins graduating high school. 3)Third cap in a row. Single parents are playing dating on hard mode compared to their childless equivalent. Especially single mothers since usually they are the ones saddled with the kids. 4)Yeah I can agree with this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 07:25 AM |
| 2 | Moderately successful men in their 30s with very limited dating experience, have to be a very harsh decision to takeThe blackpillers also pffer two more solutions though: geomaxxing and escortmaxxing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 07:17 AM |
| 1 | Men's SMV doesn't actually increase with aging.Physical attractiveness decreases with age, but everything else that can give you a competitive advantage increases with age. Bigger balls, better social skills->more punani. If you're meek and shy, you are utterly and completely fucked, unless you are a gigachad. More money and status->hotter trophy wife. Self explanatory. So yeah potentially their SMV can increase, if they put in the work and excel at it. I mean there are probably tons of mediocre looking doctors with hot wives that they could… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 06:47 AM |
| 2 | How important do you think teen love is?I think it's pretty important, just not as important people make it to be. That being said, the older you get, it all becomes less about love and more about business. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 06:08 AM |
| 1 | Both genders would do better in the dating market if women did not insist on marriage and weddings so muchWomen insist on marriage, because they benefit far more from it. Men don't insist on marriage, because they benefit far less from it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 05:59 AM |
| 18 | Women lie about their partner preferences. They self-report preference for intelligent and ambitious men, but they chose the most attractive ones ignoring other traits.IQ rates have been plummeting for decades now. Intelligence is certainly not what is preferred nowadays. Yet somehow we get taller and our penises get bigger the longer we go. Quite hilarious actually. tl;dr version is watch what they do, not what they say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/23 01:08 AM |
| 1 | CMV : The Club shows that Looks alone dont bring result, and that a worse looking dude with better social skills has a better experience.Women rarely if ever approach. So if Chad doesn't act, he is fucked most of the time, unless the planets align and he gets lucky. But if Chad acts, then the normie stands no chance, even if he has a little better social skills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/23 12:56 AM |
| 6 | Carousel rider with a 37 body count wants to settle down and is frustrated that men don't want to commit to the town bicycle. (post by @houseoftolstoy)"Only 20 studies? You need at least 100 to convince me!" -a post wall carousel rider probably | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 12/04/23 04:22 PM |
| 1 | If women are the ones who control the dating market, wouldn’t it make sense for men to lower their standards instead?Women control access to sex. And men have definitely lowered their standards when it comes to casual sex. Men will fuck almost anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 04:32 PM |
| 2 | It is commonly stated in the ‘manosphere’ that men’s SMV peaks later in life. PPD men over 30, have you actually found your overall value to increase as you’ve gotten older?Looks and charisma/social skills take time to improve, but those can be improved way before your 30s, so those are out of the equation. So your value increases with age, in your 30s, only if you achieve a decently high degree of success, let's say being a doctor. The title of doctor gives you instant status, respect and prestige. Plus average salary of a doctor is like 300k, so that puts them in the top 5% of earners or something. The caveat is that it will only tip the scales significantly in y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 04:29 PM |
| – | The Definition of a High Value ManHigh value man is a good looking guy that makes at least mid-6 figures/year and is very socially competent and charismatic. That's it. The rest is just noise. Basically a guy who ranks high in the superficial criteria, while also being very socially adept. 100k/year is too low to be considered high value. 6'2 and good physique with a busted face is still too ugly to be considered high value. Average social skills is also too low to be considered high value. The manosphere usually considers 100k+… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 07:42 PM |
| 1 | It's perfectly sensible for a woman to be rapidly promiscuous with some men, and have tougher criteria for relationship-material menThe reality is very few men will ever willingly seriously date/marry the town's bicycle. You have to have mastered subterfuge and manipulation, you have to lie and deceive, while always being on your toes and looking over your shoulder. One small mistake and any respectable guy is gone. Good luck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 07:28 PM |
| 5 | Another AF/BB example. Do women really think that the “BF” material is winning?Women don't realize that men are way more sex focused than relationship focused on average. Most men choose to enter relationships because they can't get consistent sex outside of relationships, or can't get consistent sex with women they actually find attractive. That's the only reason. They think men think exactly like them, when in reality men don't. For most men relationships/marriages are for sex and procreation, that's the cold harsh reality. If women didn't have vaginas, no man would ever… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 07:19 PM |
| 1 | For the men,would you rather be bachelor for life having sex with whoever you want but no relationship/kids or would you rather have a marriage and beautiful kids without any sex?I'll take the beautiful wife and kids, and fuck other women on the side. The best of both worlds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 07:10 PM |
| 1 | Men Desire Romantic Relationships More Than Women DoMen are more sex focused than relationship focused compared to women, this is a fact. However, the caveat here is that for most men to get casual sex consistently they have to get in a relationship. Between a 10/10 man and a 10/10 woman, who both have easy access to casual sex with attractive partners, the man will be significantly happier staying single than the woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 05:01 PM |
| 1 | The continued rise of sugar datingThe way I see it is that sugar dating is for wealthy 45+ dudes, who are divorced/widowed/single and have grown up kids, and don't want to marry again, have more kids or cohabilitate. They think older women aren't worth the hassle and the ROI is low, or quite simply they don't find them physically attractive. So since they have a lot of money, they use that to date and fuck young hot nubile maidens. The difference between that and using escorts is that probably they enjoy going on dates with the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 04:56 PM |
| 1 | Whats ideal female body and face for you?Personally the only example of an almost perfect face that comes to my mind at the moment is Scarlett Leithold. Easily googlable. When it comes body. Hourglass shape, very fit but not very lean, big tits, butt and thighs. If you want to visualize it, basically I am talking about off season competitive wellness athletes with big tits(which for the most part are usually fake sadly). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 04:43 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: Are hot girls / handsome guys less loyal than their average / ugly counterparts?My personal hypothesis is this: 25% of people will never cheat, due to upbringing, good moral character and maybe also religious beliefs. 25% of people will always cheat, because they lack all of the above, or because they have established patterns and behaviors that are very hard to break out of, or because they were simply born that way and are naturally extremely promiscuous and can't help it. 50% can potentially cheat, given the perfect opportunity with the right person and high chance of no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 04:30 PM |
| 1 | The friend zone, the fuck zone, online dating in the modern world, a personal outlook of some dude in the internetYou are overcomplicating this. The short version is this: Young women have way more options for casual sex compared to young men. When it comes to relationships, their realistic options are more or less the same though. The advantage most women have when it comes to casual sex persists until they are 50+. However, their relationship dating pool eventually starts to get smaller and smaller after 30 compared to their male counterpant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 04:08 PM |
| 1 | Would you ever give a reformed OF model with a promiscuous past having a high body count a chance if she changed her ways ?Nope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 03:57 PM |
| 4 | how much do men really care about body?Just sex: 60% body, 40% face Relationships: 40% body, 60% face | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 03:56 PM |
| 2 | The majority of younger women (18-24) are NOT attracted to old men 30+Extra money, status, charisma and experience works in a guy's favor to some extent, especially for longterm. For example a 35 year old guy who looks a bit worse than a 28 year old guy can outcompete the 28 year old guy to get a 25 year old woman. Is it very common? Not really. But it's not uncommon either. Reverse the genders and a 35 year old woman stands zero chance when competing with a 10 years younger woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 03:05 PM |
| 9 | CMV:Passportbroism,not the BP,RP or BlkPl is the solution for men to become happy.Facts. Moving to another country isn't exactly as simple as going out to buy some cigarettes lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/23 09:54 PM |
| 1 | The people who say “women should settle down in their 20s and doing that in their 30s is a bad idea” are manosphere guys, bible thumpers, and successful conservatives. In general, it’s a bad idea.1)Women are just as if not more shallow. 2)Well, I've already said that they can marry later. 3)I don't understand the point you are trying to make here. 4)Breaking up is a common occurance at every age. Arguably the older you are, the greater the toll. Imagine if you find a guy at 33 and you break up at 36, you're almost fucked if you want marriage and kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/23 02:55 PM |
| 3 | Looks will get your foot in the door, but these days the door is on the top floorI mean there is nothing new here. Men will fuck almost anything if they are offered punani on a silver platter and they don't have to work for it. Women will only offer their punani without many expectations to a guy who they think is significantly more attractive than them, and he also obviously has to have at least decent social skills. For casual sex, women are far pickier. There is no debating that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/23 02:44 PM |
| 2 | What type of clothing do you prefer on women?The mistress should wear high heels and tight dresses that show off her legs and cleavage. The wife should only wear burkas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/23 02:40 PM |
| 1 | The people who say “women should settle down in their 20s and doing that in their 30s is a bad idea” are manosphere guys, bible thumpers, and successful conservatives. In general, it’s a bad idea.The best chances of getting the best man is when they are at their most physically attractive, which usually is in their early to mid 20s. This doesn't mean you have to marry and have kids the next day. It means you just have to find the man by then. You can have the marriage and kids later. It's not very hard to understand really. Noone says find the guy at 20 and marry him after two months and start having kids after one more month. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/23 02:35 PM |
| 1 | How do you think the normalization of open relationships and polyamory is affecting societyPolyamory is not common at all, and it rarely works out. You have a finite amount of time and resources, and any relationship that involves more than two people will most likely eventually fall apart due to low or uneven investment. Open relationships are also not common at all, and that's because of the inability of most guys to easily get casual sex, while it's very easy for women to do so, so they will eventually fall apart as well. I guess it might happen between two very attractive people, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/23 05:25 AM |
| 1 | Men want women who look promiscuous but don't actually act promiscousMen want a virgin, who is a slut in the bedroom. Men want a woman who dresses like a slut when they are with her, but she dresses modestly when they are not with her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/23 05:12 AM |
| 2 | Men are more likely to cheat when they make significantly more or significantly less than their spouse. For women, breadwinning decreases their chances of cheating, while being a stay at home spouse increases it.Broke men are probably Chads, so they can cheat. Men with money and status are probably ugly, but money and status makes them desirable, so they can cheat. Broke stay at home moms are probably Stacies, so they can cheat. Women with money and status are probably ugly, so they can't cheat even if they wanted to, especially not with the men they are attracted to. It kinda makes sense. But let's be honest, it's probably bullshit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/23 05:09 AM |
| 1 | How do you guys feel about Charleston white bashing fresh and fit while at the same time bashing Andrew tate as a rapist when he's a self admitted rape advocate himself?He's like the secret pedo who bashes other "supposedly" pedos, but in reality he is doing far worse behind closed doors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/23 04:53 AM |
| 0 | All other things the same would you choose an 8 in intelligence and a 6 in looks, or an 8 in looks and a 6 in intelligence for a wife.Not even a competition. 8 in looks and 6 in intelligence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 03:28 PM |
| 0 | Honest opinion about porn, sex, and relationships.Do I care if my gf watches porn? No, not really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 03:13 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Being the guy who shes obsessed with because you treat her as disposable ALWAYS comes with the double edge sword of you don’t actually want her, despite her being “hot”Sky is blue and water is wet basically. What's even the point of this post? For a guy who has banged hordes of hot girls, another hot girl means nothing. For a guy who has never banged hordes of hot girls, a hot girl is his whole world. It's the same thing with cars. Imagine finally buying a porsche after grinding for years. You take good care of the car and really value it. Now imagine being a billionaire who buys a porsche. You already have 30 other cars, some faster, better looking, more luxu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 04:42 AM |
| 5 | The wall does not existMen will f*ck almost anything, there is always a decent looking guy who is willing to go dumpster diving. So technically the average 50 year old woman can bang a significantly younger decent looking guy if she offers him the punany on a silver platter. This is nothing new. Women always have the upper hand when it comes to casual sex. The only real equalizer is prostitution, in places where it's legal of course. The Wall means that after a certain age quite simply her prospects for long term rela… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 04:17 AM |
| 1 | People on this sub over exaggerate height too much CMVHeight is only a major downside if you are below average. The average guy is 5'9-5'10. Most women would pick a 5'10 with a nice face over a 6'2 guy with a plain looking face. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 04:09 AM |
| 0 | Rapper Waka Flocka walks off Fresh and Fit podcast over debate about rape culture and body count. 6 girls leave as well. Myron says rape culture is a myth. Was he being way too insensitive with this topic whether it’s true or false?Rape culture is indeed a myth. If you think the vast majority of men are rapists, then you are too far gone and you probably believe the earth is flat as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 04:05 AM |
| 2 | " I prefer women that allow me to physically discipline them,have a low body count, at the age of consent " are not preferences.https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1008i11/body_count_and_the_odds_of_infidelity_based_on/ Just skim through the quotes and you'll understand that it is far from bullshit. Also, if a woman is straight, then she better become a lesbian if she doesn't want to date a man. Good luck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 06:22 AM |
| 2 | The reason the manosphere is mad about AF/BB is because, while, even though the majority of women may not fit the archetype, it is a really smart stratergyHe used to be a man, but after he found the red pill he decided that transition was the way to go to reap most of the benefits modern society offers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 04:41 AM |
| 2 | Who is generally viewed more positively by society, a single man or a man with an unattractive girlfriend/wife?An unattractive wife decreases your status. A hot wife increases your status. No wife equals no change in your status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 04:14 AM |
| 1 | Men, does a woman's educational background or career success boost her attractiveness?Still a 5 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 03:44 AM |
| 1 | Women's failed relationships and dating abhorrent men proves women's "intuition" is bullshitThe intuition works just fine, until the "tingles" get in the way. Then it's goodbye intuition, welcome tingles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 03:42 AM |
| 2 | " I prefer women that allow me to physically discipline them,have a low body count, at the age of consent " are not preferences.You are being ridiculous. We live in the civilized world where everything is dictated by laws and rules. At 18 you are considered a full grown adult that has full agency, that's all you need to know. Your "but the frontal lobe develops till 25" argument is not very good. You can't measure it, you can't accurately measure the difference it makes to decision making or whatever from 18 to 25 for example. It might be significant or it might be negligible. Also you have to also consider other factors… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 03:18 AM |
| 2 | " I prefer women that allow me to physically discipline them,have a low body count, at the age of consent " are not preferences.If she's over 18, she's not underage. If she is under 18, then she is underage. Change the laws first and then we can have this conversation again. One study? Lmao. Pretty sure I've seen one post in this very subreddit where it quoted ~17 or so such studies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 02:49 AM |
| 1 | Are high value men responsible for lonely young men by the recent study showing over 60 percent of young men are single ?You can argue that older very successful guys are dipping into the younger market, but you also forgot the most infamous culprit that causes most of these problems - the legendary notorious Chad who never commits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 02:44 AM |
| 4 | " I prefer women that allow me to physically discipline them,have a low body count, at the age of consent " are not preferences.To physically discipline them? Well that's a bit too far. But age and low n-count are preferences. Younger women are on average more physically attractive. It's a preference for looks essentially. And low n-count means less chance of infidelity/divorce and obviously noone wants all their investment to go to waste. It's a preference for "not wanting to get poorer by 50%". Sure a guy with a lot of influence, experience and money can "potentially" manipulate a younger woman, or any woman for that m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 02:21 AM |
| 1 | There is no easy way to get women other than going after very unattractive womenBro if you rank so low in the hierarchy that your only option is a 400 pound women with a learning disability and a busted face, then better work another extra shift and throw that 50 euros to bang some young hot prostitute(if you live in Europe that is). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 02:01 AM |
| 1 | [Q4A]Do you believe that genuinely ugly people exist?Yeah after I reread the other guy's comment I realized I made a mistake here. When he said "You aren't ugly, you are just poor", I initially thought he meant that richer people have more ways to improve their physical appearance so that they are more attractive. In reality he probably just meant that a lot of money gets you hot bitches. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 01:47 AM |
| 1 | CMV : Judging Women for just Dating chads is absolutely wrong.An average dude who dates a woman on his level isn't "lucking out". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 01:42 AM |
| 9 | The top 20% of young men are having 84% of the sexNot surprising. Out of that 84%, I bet the top 5% of men get like 65% of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 01:31 AM |
| 1 | [Q4A]Do you believe that genuinely ugly people exist?I don't know man. There is a video on the internet where he gets delivery of his mclaren f1. He didn't look that much worse. Probably a 4 instead of a 5. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 01:29 AM |
| 6 | [Q4A]Do you believe that genuinely ugly people exist?Yeah but all that isn't due to the fact that he got better looking. He was maybe a 5, then lost his hair became a 4, and then got a hair transplant and became a 5 again. I mean he is also like 6'2, so he might even be a 6 if you want to stretch it. But his looks is definitely not what gets him women. Whether he is 4 or 6 is meaningless in this case. It's the fact that he is one of the most powerful and richest men of the planet. At that level of wealth, you can fill a megayacht with 50 IG models… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 01:24 AM |
| 3 | [Q4A]Do you believe that genuinely ugly people exist?I mean c'mon now. You tell me in your whole life you've never seen one ugly individual? I've seen plenty of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 01:04 AM |
| 5 | [Q4A]Do you believe that genuinely ugly people exist?There is no big difference. He lost hair and he just got a hair transplant. He is still average looking. It's not like he turned into a Chad or something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 01:02 AM |
| 19 | The widespread research declaring that women are happier single has long been retracted and refuted by experts as well as the original researcher.Women are happier single because even the homely ones can easily rent Chad for a night or two and distract themselves by being Chad's side chick. This lasts until 40 or so. After that, Chad simply isn't interested, not even for a quick lay. There is only so much he can lower his standards. Then these women realize that they have no husband, no kids, and their Chad subscription has been terminated and can't be renewed. Once the realization settles in, they start swallowing anti-depressants, while… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/23 04:59 PM |
| 2 | Most women sexually desire the same small percentage of men the most, based on the data. But most women aren’t dating those same few men. Does that mean most women are settling in their relationships for men they don’t find sexually desirable?Yes, in their mind they think they're "settling". The vast majority of the time you only hear women mention and say they "settled", you rarely hear men saying it. But in objective reality, them "settling" simply means they couldn't do better to begin with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/23 04:36 PM |
| 1 | Why do men watch porn?You're overthinking this. You are horny and want to fuck, but there is no available punany. So your options are: a)jerking off staring at the ceiling or trying to conjure an image in your mind, or b)jerking off while watching hot women in videos getting railed. Option b is the superior option between the two, since men are very visual and 4k videos look 10 times better than any image you can conjure in your mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/23 04:32 PM |
| 1 | What female body time do men actually like??I meant what body type has the widest appeal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/23 12:46 PM |
| 1 | CMV: attractive RP men SHOULD care more about a woman’s financial status and intellectIntellect? Well, as long as she's not below average, everything's good. Financial status? If the guy makes a lot of money, he doesn't really care. Men overwhelmingly prioritize physical attractiveness. After they lock that down, the next item on the list is character. That's it. The rest of the items on the list combined don't even come close in importance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/23 07:41 PM |
| 11 | Theory: dating apps have irrepairably damaged Collective Unconcious Sexual Selection (CUSS) health.I mean it doesn't take a genius to understand that dating apps, social media and onlyfans have vastly changed dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/23 07:25 PM |
| 2 | Money does not have the influence that many men here believe it hasMoney doesn't buy you love and genuine desire. But it can definitely buy you hot pussy to fuck and hot pussy that can bear your children. So ultimately, having a lot of money definitely improves your situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/23 07:18 PM |
| 0 | What female body time do men actually like??The most attractive body type is overall fit physique with big tits and big round butt. That's it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/23 06:52 PM |
| 35 | Even after a lot of self-improvement and personal growth, adult single men are increasingly entering the dating environment with a lot of resentmentA guy who has little to no success in dating, and spent most of his prime young years single and lonely, with little to no intimacy/sex/companionship, from let's say 16 to like 28, isn't exactly prime husband material. That's the reality of the situation. You can't expect much from a guy like this. He is probably bitter. He is probably resentful. The fact that his youth and experiences have passed him over, he didn't get to boink the young hot girls, he didn't get to experience young romance etc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/23 12:25 PM |
| 0 | Most young men are single. Most young women are not. Why?Lmao. I mean if it ever gets this bad, you are better off getting prostitutes and escorts. They are cheaper. You can enjoy variety. They always stay young and hot. And there is zero hassle, responsibility, stress and time investment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/23 11:54 AM |
| 3 | What do you think of men wearing shoe lifts to appear taller?If you're not tall, use shoe lifts. If you're severely balding, use a hair system or a good wig. If your package looks small in your tight trousers, put a banana inside your underwear. If your face doesn't look that good, then use makeup and grow a beard. If you can't grow a full beard, use minoxidil to finally be able to grow one. You can have a totally busted face, but a good hair system/wig, a killer beard, and perfectly applied make up will propel you to chad levels of facial attractiveness.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/23 11:20 AM |
| 1 | AI is generating "hotties" at a rapid pace. Will there be a hottie renaissance or oversaturation?I have no clue what holodeck on star trek is, but you make a good point that I completely missed. If augmented reality gets to a point where it can stimulate all your senses and it is barely indistinguishable from reality, then that's also a fine alternative, arguably better than sex robots, given the limitless potential of such technology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/23 07:44 AM |
| 3 | For those concerned with body count...The only one who is projecting here is you. It's in a man's best interest to care about body count, when it comes to long term investment. This goes both ways. If a guy has been with let's say 100 women, the chances of him being loyal to one woman are statistically slim. He might not slip up in the first 2, or 5, or 10 years, but he will eventually, most likely. It's also in a woman's best interest to care about body count. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/23 08:41 PM |
| 2 | For those concerned with body count...You imply cheating. I never said anywhere anything about cheating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/23 08:06 PM |
| 2 | For those concerned with body count..."Muh pedos" is just another excuse you just made up. The vast majority of people married people their own age or at least close to their age, certainly not with 30 year old difference, unless I don't know, you were Duke William the Fifth or God Emperor Zhang-Xin. Prostitution has existed since the dawn of time. But rarely anyone ever married a prostitute and presented her as his wife. If it's a quick fuck, or a situationship, or anything behind closed doors, where minimal investment and effort i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/23 07:32 PM |
| 3 | For those concerned with body count...Virginity, purity and innocence have been highly valued throughout human history all over the world among the vast majority of societies and cultures. But sure, if "new thing" and "propaganda" makes people feel better, believe what you want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/23 07:14 PM |
| 3 | AI is generating "hotties" at a rapid pace. Will there be a hottie renaissance or oversaturation?I don't think porn and cam girls can be compared to escorts, they are not even remotely the same thing. Now escorts and sex robots can be compared I guess. The difference I think between the two will be that the sex robots might be programmed to genuinely desire them or something. However, we are I assume at least 100 years away from making realistic sex robots that can sufficiently mimic humans. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/23 04:48 PM |
| 17 | AI is generating "hotties" at a rapid pace. Will there be a hottie renaissance or oversaturation?Bro, who even said anything about the incels? My point was that AI generated realistic models, according to a company's taste, can theoretically eliminate the need for real models. Make 20 AI generated models. Buy followers on insta or whatever. Market all your products for free as much as you want. Done. Similar for onlyfans. Anyone would be able to create a "fake" woman and if it advances to the point of animated realistic fake woman, it's game over. Plus AI might advance to the point that it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/23 04:14 PM |
| 1 | Are men happy to be in relationships with women around their age?Only guys who have some leverage have the option to date younger hotter women, that's why most age gaps are similar in age. Just only focusing on only one variable - money, making like 200k is probably ~5%, that's 1 in 20 guys. Half of them have probably been with their wives since early 20s or something, so they are out of the equation. So only like ~2.5% of guys have some leverage to potentially date hotter and younger. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/23 03:37 PM |
| 2 | No matter how good-looking a man is, he isn't able to escape the burden of competence.Dating is all about thresholds. If you're a 7-8/10 man, your dating life is set. Physical attractiveness has diminishing returns after a point, the difference between 5 and 7 is way bigger than the difference between 7 and 9. Exact same thing can be said about money. The difference between a megamillionaire(100 million or more) and a billionaire(1 billion or more) is 900 million, which is a huge amount, but in reality, there is very little difference in lifestyle. However, between 10million and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/23 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Seen repeated claims “there are more attractive women then men.”No, this whole claim is BS. Women gain a significant advantage on a night out when they have makeup and heels on(make up improves how their face looks and heels improve how their whole lower body looks), so it might seem that way to some people, but in objective reality men and women are roughly the same in attractiveness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/23 02:57 PM |
| 6 | Is pre-selection actually real?Preselection is definitely a thing. It increases your status essentially. A guy near a hot woman automatically gains a small halo effect and is perceived as more desirable than he actually is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/23 02:54 PM |
| 24 | AI is generating "hotties" at a rapid pace. Will there be a hottie renaissance or oversaturation?The first casualty will be instagram models, or models in general. Their business is tied to posting photos and doing photoshoots. Big companies can simply create their own perfect models using AI to market their products. When AI becomes more advanced in a few years and video is possible, onlyfans girls will be the second casualty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/23 02:49 PM |
| 4 | For those concerned with body count...You refer to it as "toxic masculinity" and you think it's only the guys in TRP and PPD that think that way. You don't actually want an argument to be convinced. You can't be convinced period. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/23 08:31 PM |
| 12 | For those concerned with body count...Look, I don't really care about changing your mind. Ultimately believe what you want. I'm a guy and I've probably socialized with 20 times more men than you in my life. The guys were probably way more honest around me than they are around women. And I doubt that even 10% of those guys are even aware of the red pill. But sure, what the hell do I know? Right? It's all about the personality after all lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/23 07:34 PM |
| 2 | How the red pill attracts young menI think most people have the "not my chair, not my problem" mentality. But when the problem eventually comes creeping and knocking on their door, then and only then they'll start worrying about it. And usually at that point it's too late. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/23 02:54 PM |
| 1 | What are the traits of a Stacey ?Chad is a socially competent very physically attractive man. A man who is 8+/10 in looks and has decent social skills. Stasy is a very physically attractive woman. A woman who is 8+/10 in looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/23 02:50 PM |
| 2 | Does it not concern men that their low/no body count partner might one day realize "Hey I've only slept with 1 or 2 dudes? I want to see what's out there before I die!"This a reasonable argument, but I'll take my chances with the low n-count women. And here is why: You get with a woman and you have kids. Fast forward let's say 8 years, she now wants to get with another guy due to FOMO. The reality is that any sane woman at this point would understand two things: a)she's far less physically attractive now, thus less desirable, and b)she is saddled with let's say 2 kids, thus making her way less desirable. The chances of finding a guy, strictly based on superfic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/23 02:45 PM |
| 1 | The blue pill gives advice on how to get women, the red pill gives advice on how to get attractive womenWell theoretically anyone can get a woman if they drop their standards and go for 1s and 2s. The whole purpose of the red pill is use it to your advantage and get a woman you are actually satisfied with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/23 02:24 PM |
| 21 | For those concerned with body count...The reality is that the vast majority of men care about body count a lot, just like the vast majority of men care about a woman's physical appearance a lot. Anyone who believes otherwise is straight up living in fantasy land. If men didn't care, women wouldn't lie about it. And you don't even need to ask the number, you can easily tell if a woman has been promiscuous if you are at least somewhat socially competent. Sure you can't guess the specific number, but you can definitely tell a girl with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/23 02:22 PM |
| 1 | Q4 Red Pill Men - what is your opinion on single fathers?Well I can totally understand a woman not wanting to date a guy who has a kid and is heavily involved with the kid. It's not in her best interests, just like a guy dating a single mom. As for as deadbeat dads go, if the guy isn't paying child support, he's probably already in jail. He reaped the consequences of his actions. Now if a guy is paying child support, but doesn't want to get involved with the kid, I can't pass judgement, I need some more context. If I got a woman pregnant I wasn't inte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/23 02:14 PM |
| 1 | Why do women have long term relationships with guys they don’t physically desire?Because they grow old and they want family and kids. They do it out of necessity. Also, a big wallet sweetens the deal and wettens the punany. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/23 02:06 PM |
| 1 | Am I dating out of my league?This is very tough to determine quite simply because we don't know what you look like and how the man you're going for looks like. You say you're blonde, great skin, breast implants, but that tells someone nothing about how your face looks. Being 125 pounds and super active also doesn't tell someone how your body actually looks, except for the fact that you have big breasts given the implants. The same goes for when you describe the guys. Sure they are tall. But he can be tall with a killer phys… | /r/RedPillWomen | 13/02/23 03:10 AM |
| 1 | Many Women Are Still Peak Beauty at 30-35Men can't peak earlier than women when men enter puberty later. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/23 10:40 PM |
| 1 | Many Women Are Still Peak Beauty at 30-35True but when I said "physically" I meant only looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/23 03:04 AM |
| 4 | Many Women Are Still Peak Beauty at 30-35Noone peaks physically at those ages lmao. Women's peak is 20-24, men's peak is 25-29. Noone is prettier at 35 versus when they were at 25. Sure, if you were a 9 at 25, unless you get really fat, you won't turn into a 5 at 35. But you'll still not be as attractive as you were at 25. Unless you got copious amounts of perfectly done plastic surgery between those ages and you fixed all the flaws of your face(plus fake tits for flat women). Then you might indeed turn out more attractive at 35. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/23 02:55 AM |
| – | Why don’t men care about a woman being ambitious?Or maybe, most marriages are assortative, because most people fall within the average range, and with 50k you most likely can't sustain a family. And the higher you go up the ladder, the more less assortative marriages get. Sure some lawyers as you mentioned might marry other lawyers. Some other lawyers might not. It's been shown that women date across and up socioeconomic status, while men date across and down. So some men do date down obviously, and it's not the men who make average wages most… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/23 03:14 PM |
| – | Why don’t men care about a woman being ambitious?Well, if a guy makes 40-50k/year, he probably can't sustain a family on his own, that's the reality of the situation, so a woman's income might matter a bit. However, the more a man makes, the less he cares about a woman's income, because money starts becoming a non-issue, and the more he prioritizes what men actually want, which is looks. Men are grinding to rise in money/status, so that they can date hotter women, not richer women. Also, the logistics simply work better. If the guy is a doctor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/23 12:29 PM |
| – | 63% of men under 30 describe themselves as single, compared with 34% of women in the same age groupNo shit sherlock there aren't many 9s and 10s. The inkwells call the 7s chad-lites and the 8s chads. Those are the ones who are doing most of the fucking. And if you think about it logically, the higher you go up the physical attractiveness scale, the less visible the differences and the higher the diminishing returns. The difference between a 7 and a 9 is way smaller than the difference between a 5 and a 7 for example. Also, by quick head math using normal distribution, I'd assume ~10-15% of pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/23 10:59 AM |
| – | 63% of men under 30 describe themselves as single, compared with 34% of women in the same age groupAnd masculine facial features, and the ability to grow a nice beard, and not being born with pale skin. I mean yeah, if the planets align, bald guys can be hot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/23 10:52 AM |
| 2 | Many female users here claim that they commonly see "attractive" women dating "less attractive" men. Does makeup explain this?Or they might be overestimating the woman's attractiveness and/or underestimating the man's attractiveness. Everyone knows the okcupid study where women rated 80% of men below average, while men rated women on an almost perfect bell curve. Or it might be more complex than that. You also have to take into account that women have more tools to increase their physical attractiveness. High heels make a woman's lower body, butt and legs, look much better than they actually are, and her lower body is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/23 10:46 AM |
| 9 | Is hypergamy a real concept?No you will probably just see more soft-harems and women who choose to stay single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 06:46 AM |
| 20 | Is hypergamy a real concept?Tons of studies have evidence that support the fact that women date across and up in socioeconomic status. So there's your proof when it comes to money and social status. The opposite is not true. Men vastly overprioritize physical appearance and care very little for a woman's money and social standing. Studies have also shown that women prefer taller men. And anyone in the real world can tell you that is true, just from simply observing. On the other side of the coin, men simply don't care abou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 06:05 AM |
| 1 | Men who genuinely are fans of Andrew tate can I ask u why?I like the color of his Bugatti, that's why. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 03:22 AM |
| 4 | Do older women have less value in the dating market than younger ones ?Younger women are on average more physically attractive than older women. Men almost always overwhelmingly prioritize looks. I mean this is a very easily observable fact in the real world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/23 09:36 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Telling unsuccesful men that the young women in impoverished countries only want them for their money is pointless, these men believe that women their age in their country are the same. And we can't blame them.Exactly. If you're rolling the dice anyway, at least make it so that the reward matches the risk. In theory, there are definitely some benefits for going to another poorer country. In the west you might have been a peasant, but with the power of the dollar you might be a low to high tier aristocrat in a poorer country, so you are by default higher status/income there and you can easily satisfy a woman's hypergamy, same goes for things like height, where the asian average is lower than the wester… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/23 12:39 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Telling unsuccesful men that the young women in impoverished countries only want them for their money is pointless, these men believe that women their age in their country are the same. And we can't blame them.Why would anyone blame the passport bros though? They tried and failed in dating in the western world, so they are trying to find success in another part of the world, where it might be easier for them. Western women didn't even want them, so why are they so mad about it? It makes no sense to me. If a passport bro succeeds in his new endeavor, he wins. if he fails, then well, he already failed a lot of times, so nothing really changes, one more time won't make it much worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/23 12:14 AM |
| 4 | His/her past matters, it is perfectly fine to judge someone's past behaviors and family background to know if they are capable of having healthy and monogamous relationships.I mean if someone has banged let's say 50 people, what are the chances he/she won't bang another one when they are with you for the next 30 or whatever years you'll be together? Slim to none in my opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 07:32 AM |
| 1 | What even makes a woman unattractive, really?There aren't any to be honest. For women, looks is the main deciding factor, that's just a fact. It's a double edged sword though. Men at least can potentially make progress in other areas to outcompete other men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 10:44 PM |
| 1 | Explain this to me - why the child of an unmarried couple usually takes the fathers surname?So that people know who the father is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 01:29 AM |
| 2 | To what extent being rich helps in gettingBeing rich gets you attractive punany even if you are found lacking in other areas. That's just a fact. However, the problem is that it's difficult to know whether people like you for you or your money, this also extends to friendships and not only romantic relationships. If you have the option of being very rich, it's definitely the way to go if you enjoy debauchery and never plan to get married. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 08:08 PM |
| – | Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level?There are two facts about life. First, life is short. Second, life is a rigged game. When a large percentage of people are playing dirty, I don't blame anyone for choosing to play dirty as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 08:02 PM |
| -3 | What age is best for men to pick wives?At the age where they can get young women. Younger=less baggage=better wives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 07:59 PM |
| 2 | 'Leo's doing what every man wishes he could do...'Old stats for second marriages by pew: Not only are men who have recently remarried more likely than those beginning a first marriage to have a spouse who is younger; in many cases, she is much younger. Some 20% of men who are newly remarried have a wife who is at least 10 years their junior, and another 18% married a woman who is 6-9 years younger. By comparison, just 5% of newlywed men in their first marriage have a spouse who is 10 years younger, and 10% married a woman who is 6-9 years young… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 05:09 AM |
| 1 | GSS Data Doesn't Seem To Support The 'Chad Harem' TheoryLet's call this phenomenon "Chadharemization". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:55 AM |
| 1 | The Floor matters more than the ceiling when it comes to your attractiveness to womenWhen it comes to looks, it's always a matter of floor instead of a matter of ceiling. The reason for this is that physical attractiveness has diminishing returns the higher you go. The difference between a 7 and a 9 is way smaller than the difference between a 5 and a 7. After some point, you get much better returns if you invest points in other categories. There is a soft cap and a hard cap in short. The soft cap is usually around 7-8 and the hard cap is obviously 10. The problem is that for mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:49 AM |
| 2 | CMV: men have an accountability problem with all this talk about how they "date down."The whole point of men telling women to approach more is very simple. Some men are just shy and won't make the move even if they like the woman. If women start approaching men, then they statistically increase their chances of finding a man they want. Of course if the guy doesn't find you attractive, you won't get any brownie points or be seen as more attractive in general, exactly just like when men do the approaching. Nothing is guaranteed. By taking the aggressive route, it's statistically pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:46 AM |
| 1 | Male SMV has the greatest potential to peak at 21-25 NOT 35-50This is a stupid take in my opinion. Of course if you are young, hot, and have decent social skills, you don't need anything else to get the hot girls at that point in time. This is what the whole "chad meme" is all about. Also, a billionaire doesn't care bro. His money can bend physical reality. He can fuck 10s for money. He can also impregnate 10s if he promises them good money. He can do anything and everything he desires. He can acquire anything he wants except true love. But does true love … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:19 AM |
| 15 | i truly believe most women are oblivious to how attractive thier partners are, and women value being competent or the illusion of being competent"His vibe" or "his energy" or "chemistry" are codewords for: "I found him physically attractive and he said the right words". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:09 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Claims that single women are so much happier and satisfied than single men need to be taken with a grain a salt because the main women propagating this are either taken, conventionally attractive, or misandrist.It's probably true at the earlier ages. Women can get intimacy when single very easily, so they are probably happier. After 40 when the good looking dick starts drying up, they are probably not as happy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 04:04 AM |
| 16 | Discussion: Sarah Dawn Moore's all-female panel."Fatherly attributes" and "actions instead of words". Lmao. Yeah, right. A woman might say she finds those attractive... at 35. But at that point who cares? Barely anyone. And who is she fooling? Again, barely anyone. What she prefers at 20 is what matters and it's certainly not fatherly attributes and actions instead of words. Actually they seem to be going for the exact opposite. Dastardly attributes and words instead of actions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 06:26 AM |
| 1 | Men are power objects, women are beauty objectsYeah I believe you brother. I am 100% that is a true story. I am also a gigabillionaire who struggles to get laid so I can empathize with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 06:05 AM |
| 1 | Men are power objects, women are beauty objectsA lot of Chads/Tyrones and rich guys I assume. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 06:02 AM |
| 2 | The long and short of it is as a man you need to be attractive and high value and if you refuse to do that or simply can’t then unfortunately life is unfair and you will miss outIf a man is hot, he can get hot punanay, he doesn't need to be high value. If he is high value, he doesn't have to be hot, he can still get hot punanay, he will just have to pay or semi-pay for it. Your sex life will be guaranteed either way. Now if he is neither, well he is shit out of luck I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 05:35 AM |
| 1 | Women do not naturally desire older men; they are forced to settle for them; and have a strong preference for men their own age.Age matters for two reasons: looks and logistics. All other things being equal, the younger guy obviously wins, because he is on average more physically attractive. Also, age gap of let's say 20 years obviously messes with the logistics of family and kids. However, most of the time everything else isn't equal though. If both parties get whatever they want from the exchange of value, it's not settling. By that same logic, all men want a 20 year old supermodel that will stay 20 for eternity, anyth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 05:22 AM |
| 2 | Most people agree that there are not enough high value men for all women, but we don't agree what causes itWhat causes the lack of "HVM"? Bro is this really a serious question? Not everyone can be a HVM. Not all men are born with the required physical traits or high iq to be considered high value. Yes you can compensate with social competence, status, money etc to some degree, but realistically hard work doesn't mean you are guaranteed to be successful and it takes a lot of effort. Not everyone can make it. Luck plays a huge part in it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 04:17 AM |
| – | Do men find this lady to be attractive ??Solid 6/10. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 04:11 AM |
| 1 | Does growing wealth inequality reinforce hypergamy in the West? Will the scenario “poor attractive woman marrying rich unattractive man” happen again?"happen again"? It never stopped happening since the dawn of time lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 02:34 AM |
| 1 | Would most RP men prefer an average looking virgin woman or a knockout woman with a past?Well if I see the girl and I am not physically attracted to her, her being a virgin, a billionaire, or the nicest person on earth is irrelevant. The same exact applies to a girl who has banged 50+ dudes, even if she is like a 9.5/10, her beauty becomes instantly irrelevant, for anything longterm at least. You should have made it more competitive like cute girl, like a 7/10, who is a virgin versus amazing looking girl,who is like a 9+/10, who has banged like 20-30 dudes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 02:16 AM |
| 1 | Rejection Therapy - A Brilliant Idea Or A Complete Waste Of Time?Constant rejection will either mold you into a stronger type of metal or completely break you. I think it depends on the person. For some people it works, for other people it makes things worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 03:45 AM |
| 19 | Is it better to be hook-up material but not relationship material, or the other way around?If a guy can easily bed the girl, 9 out of 10 times he can also get a relationship with her if he wants. So yeah, I'd rather be the hook up guy and most guys will probably prefer that as well I assume, because men on average are more sex focused than relationship focused. You never hear men cry "she used me for sex", it's only women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 03:41 AM |
| 1 | Men who want to improve their dating lives need to drop the video gamesVideo games is like watching a movie/netflix or playing basketball with your friends. Both activities will do nothing for your dating life, but are enjoyable and people partake in them. Most people aren't exactly playing video games 10 hours a day, at least not the grown up people, they probably play 2 hours a day if even that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 09:51 PM |
| 1 | How will society change in reaction to more and more women becoming single mothers by choice?Single people will get fed up with being taxed for someone else's mistakes and will start voting accordingly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 09:37 PM |
| 1 | The body positivity movement is a way for healthy looking women to reduce their female competitionThe funniest thing about this is when I see fit women, who obviously are gym rats, advocating body positivity and hot at every size. I mean if it's that great, why are you not fat yourself? Lmao. Also, funnily enough they've never dated obese dudes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 09:34 PM |
| – | What do men in age gap relationships have to offer the women besides money?Social competence, experience, status and of course money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 09:31 PM |
| 2 | There are two identical twin sisters. Both are gorgeous.Ideally, I'd stick to my hand and pr0n if those were my only options in the world. But if I was forced to make a choice at gunpoint, I'd go with the promiscuous one obviously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 09:23 PM |
| 1 | Men actually do have high standards for LTRYeah this is one of those things I don't agree with when it comes to the red pill community. When it comes to relationships, men do indeed usually date across and down when it comes to social competence, status and money. However, they also usually date across and up when it comes to looks. It makes sense obviously, neither men nor women are charitable creatures. Men vastly prioritize looks and if a man is a 6/10, but is a doctor and makes 300k or whatever, he'll aim for at least a 7 in the look… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 09:15 PM |
| -1 | Women should definitely be shamed for settlingExactly, NEVER settle queen. Just stay single and please spare the poor unsuspecting guy years of misery. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 08:46 PM |
| 1 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?Exactly that's why I say men and women are working on different timetables now. I also bet that the average body count for a woman who is 25 is twice the bodycount of a man who is 25. This uneven distribution in the sex market will start affect people later in their 30s and 40s. Men will try to either prolong their single life till they got enough pussy or simply never opt to fully invest in a woman, and I am not talking about individual cases here, I am talking at the societal level. Men and wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 04:58 PM |
| 2 | The Lack of Critical Thinking Amongst Red Pill MenHow are RP men wasting their youth, when one of the core tenets of RP is self improving and not wasting your time? Doesn't compute. When it comes to dating, what the red pill teaches is basically how most women operate, what woman is built for short term, what woman is built for longterm, and how to know the difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/23 08:33 PM |
| 1 | Women more likely to prefer masculine man when they are fertileThis has been proven in like 10 studies already. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/23 08:07 PM |
| 9 | Is romance dead?Romance and chivalry are dead because they are not advantageous anymore when it comes to reproduction. If they offered a significant advantage, they'd still be alive. They don't, so they were killed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/23 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Why doesn't sex ed teach young women about their fertility?You can freeze a certain amount of eggs. Then you have to consider how many of those eggs will survive the thawing process. Then you have to consider IvF, the cost and the probablity of success in fertilization. Then if your old, you'll have to consider surrogates, because older wombs equals a lot of miscarriages that might waste those viable eggs. Surrogates cost a lot of money. Now assume you go through all of that, what if you want more than 1 kid? Yeah it's not as simple as you think. By the… | /r/RedPillWomen | 23/01/23 07:40 PM |
| 2 | It does not imo make any biological/logical sense to claim "men age better than women", since women have evolved-very possibly through male sexual selection- to be highly neotenous. Considering physical ageing to be "attractive" in men is not equal to men ageing "better".After 50, men do indeed age better than women at least visually due to the simple fact that aging has an accumulating masculinization effect on both genders' faces and while both become more masculine, on women a more feminine face is usually preferred, thus the effects of aging are more detrimental. Also menopause highly accelerates that. Easiest example is that most women's hair start thinning quite a bit around menopause, an issue that most women usually never have to deal before that. But up… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/23 01:48 AM |
| 52 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?The main reason is the lack of genuine desire, lack of raw sexual attraction basically. This is described as alphabuxx/betabuxx, essentially the guy she really wants to spread her legs open for vs. the guy who will offer her stability and be a good father to her kids. Coupled with the fact that the woman has most likely already tasted men of a higher caliber than the current guy and she'll inevitably make comparisons in everything in her mind. This will lead to less satisfaction and fulfillment … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/23 01:23 AM |
| 2 | Study finds that being muscular does not increase attractiveness for short men.Nah I think it still makes some difference, it just makes a bigger difference on a taller guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 04:39 PM |
| 1 | Is dating women who are taller/fitter/more sucessful/more ambitious emasculating?The odds of a woman dating a guy that is shorter, less fit, less successful and less ambitious than her are slim to none. And when it happens, 9 out of 10 times she realizes she can't tolerate it and she bails. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 04:33 PM |
| 1 | How do men without accomplishments get confidence?Good looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 04:26 PM |
| 5 | Do people think most couples aren’t similar in attractiveness?Men rarely if ever date women below them in physical attractiveness. And the ones you see that do it's usually at the very high ends of physical attractiveness, like a 9/10 guy dating a 8/10 girl, because physical attractiveness has diminishing returns after some point and the differences can't easily be noticed. The difference between a 5 and a 7 is way way bigger than the difference between a 7 and a 9 for example. Most people date within their league, with the woman usually being slightly mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 04:19 PM |
| 1 | RP men what is your age and what is the age range of women you’d be willing to *seriously* date?I never date seriously, but when I do it's usually 19-21. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Sexual Emancipation EqualityHis whole argument is that a large percentage of younger women gets that opportunity, while a smaller percentage of younger men gets that opportunity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 03:33 PM |
| 1 | Female Centric Dating Advice is so wrong it hurtsSo I was unaware of this sub called Diabla, but after skimming through it, it's some hilarious shit I tell ya. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 02:57 PM |
| 3 | Average vs. high-value women?Hot, young, feminine, low body count and high moral character. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 02:52 PM |
| 2 | Men who follow Instagram modelsAre the sheiks and arab princes simps as well though? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 02:52 PM |
| 1 | Women ghost after sex just as often as menDoesn't matter, the guy still got to bang. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 02:49 PM |
| 2 | The less physically attractive a man is, the better they have to beMaybe that someone isn’t remotely desirable but you won’t have to die alone - you’ll die feeling unfulfilled but maybe you can work through that with a therapist or some CBT or some form of substance usage. Or you know, make decent money and get hot escorts, instead of using all that brainpower and effort to go from black shit to brown shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 02:21 PM |
| 5 | The less physically attractive a man is, the better they have to beWhere billionaires and megamillionaires live | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 02:15 PM |
| 2 | The less physically attractive a man is, the better they have to beThis doesn't say much. He is not 6'3, but he might be 6'2 or 6'1, still way above average height. Hair is thinning, but to what extent? Some mild recession in the corners that nobody even notices or barely any hair at all? All I am hearing here is that the guy might not be a gigachad, but he is still a chad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 02:12 PM |
| 3 | Men have so much more flexibility than women when it comes to what you can do to become more attractiveTheoretically, yes. In reality, no. You need a high amount of status, money and social competence to offset physical drawbacks, and those things are not realistically achievable for like 95% of guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 02:05 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub are obsessed with young women because of rejection wounds, not biologyNah, whether a man was rejected or not plays little role in this. Men overwehelmingly prefer younger women, in some cases much younger women, tons of stats support this. Younger women are on average more attractive, that's a fact. Yeah, a man who is 35 might not go for a 18 year old, but I can bet my left nut in 95 out of 100 cases given the choice he will pick a 25 year old over a 35 year old. In the cases this doesn't happen is because he can't get the younger woman. Nah it's biology, not ego.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 12:25 AM |
| 1 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveThat's a likely outcome for quite few men and it will only get worse from now on as sexlessness under age 30 among males increases. What will happen I predict is that simply a lot of men will adapt and start withholding full investment in any type of relationship they might engage in when in their 30s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 12:16 AM |
| 2 | I Interviewed Rollo TomassiI don't know why Rollo Tomassi hates the black pill. The few times I've listened to him in a few podcasts he seemed quite black pilled. Most of the times he mentions "genuine desire" he links it mostly to looks, which is basically what the black pill is all about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 12:08 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The most common evolutionary (sometimes evopsych) argument for male cheating being a far lower genetic threat is not very strongBased and red pilled | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 12:03 AM |
| 1 | Do young men care if they're fetishized for their youth?Yeah I am sure all those high school students who got laid with their teachers are crestfallen and traumatized. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 12:00 AM |
| 1 | Do you guys think there will be a "bachelor" Tax in the west at some point due to declining birth rates and men opting out and breaking the social contract?Why would they only impose a bachelor tax on single men when they could impose a bachelor tax on both single men and single women and make even more money? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/23 10:41 PM |
| 1 | Guys are not unattractive because they're insecure, they are insecure because they're unattractive. I feel like this is a common misconception.Basically it boils down to this: You don't necessarily need to be physically attractive to be confident. But if you are physically attractive, you are more likely to be confident, due to the positive reinforcement you are more likely to receive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/23 10:39 PM |
| 1 | Societal contribution and reproductive access.IQ rates have been dropping for a few decades now. You might be onto something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/23 10:29 PM |
| 5 | Are many men really relocating to developing countries to find women to marry?Many men? Nope. Some men? Probably. I get their logic though. Why be a peasant in the west when you can be a king elsewhere? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/23 10:08 PM |
| 2 | Men still on PPD who front as "RP" are either brand new or deluded fraudsCorrect, forget the outdated Red Pill and embrace the new trendy reality of the Black Pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/23 10:02 PM |
| 22 | Analysis Paralysis and the Anxiety of Failure in Red Pill MenTo be honest I think it goes like this: people get somewhat soft-redpilled through real life->start wondering what they are doing wrong->find the redpill->become hard-redpilled. What I am saying is that real life experience usually precedes red pill knowledge. And that real life experience kinda of redpills you a bit by itself, and that's why people seek the red pill afterwards. Anyone who socialized a bit in their teens and early 20s knows that looks matter or money matters. Also, they know tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 08:37 PM |
| 5 | Sometimes I wonder “just who the hell are these women holding out for??”"I have a very attractive friend, 6’3, he’s an athlete competing on international level, he’s funny and good looking and has a successful fitness business. He’s cool as hell also….yet the women he sees or has dates with are either overweight, bland, old or just plain old unremarkable." I'll have to call CAP on this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 08:28 PM |
| 7 | Guys who are red pill on here, would you be red pill if you were attractive and could get any woman you wanted?Even I, the most ridiculously attractive person on the planet, can't get any woman I want. Some quite simply have terrible taste. So here I am. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 08:26 PM |
| -1 | Why doesn't sex ed teach young women about their fertility?You are comparing a hand that misses one finger with a hand that misses three fingers, that was my whole point. | /r/RedPillWomen | 11/01/23 08:10 PM |
| 0 | Why doesn't sex ed teach young women about their fertility?https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0044/0893/4513/files/graph-fertility-rates-men-women.jpg?v=1646048379 Yeah ignorance, easily googlable. | /r/RedPillWomen | 11/01/23 07:54 PM |
| 3 | Men & Women both create cycles of bad dating standardsI don't mistake respect for attraction. What I am saying is that an established man will usually gladly marry a socially incompetent peniless woman, as long as she's hot, and he'll most likely be pretty satisfied with that arrangement. An established woman will rarely consider doing something similar. And if she does, the chances of the whole marriage lasting are slim, because the guy just being hot isn't enough for her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 06:13 PM |
| 7 | Western society is too prosperous and strong"In the west only a small percentage of high tier men, smart and physically robust men, are needed to keep society running. " Those guys aren't the ones who are keeping the infrastructure intact though. Once the bus drivers, plumbers, construction workers, electricians etc. quit their job, you'll see how everything will stop working immediately. "As AI/tech advances, the value of average men will only go down more and more" At that point we'll be living in the next blade runner era. Highly advan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 05:50 PM |
| 9 | Women are happiest single, therefore their dating issues are irrelevantMy answer was purely comical, because OPs post was purely comical. Noone deserves maximum happiness for the simple reason that the default state of life is discontent with a few short bursts of happiness here and there. There is no sustainable maximum happiness. The only way to attain maximum happiness is to acknowledge this fact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 05:35 PM |
| 8 | Men & Women both create cycles of bad dating standardsGuys don't date up for a very simple reason. They vastly prioritize looks, that's what they mostly care about, far above anything else. If they have more money, status, social competence, or whatever else, they can leverage that to date more attractive women than they otherwise could. Women don't date down, because simply they don't respect men they deem as incompetent. It's harder to respect a man who makes less money. It's also harder to respect a man who is less socially competent, for exampl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 05:29 PM |
| 23 | Women are happiest single, therefore their dating issues are irrelevantYeah I see you made a fatal mistake in your reasoning. There is a hierarchy of happiness when it comes to most women. Relationship with Chad -> Maximum happiness Single, but getting railed by Chad -> Moderate happiness Relationship with Billy -> Low happiness So as you can see women are happier when single compared to being in a relationship with Billy, but not as happy as they could be by being in a relationship with Chad. They don't think their dating issues are irrelevant due to the fact that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 05:15 PM |
| 5 | At what age is it a turnoff for a man to have never had a girlfriend?The way we are going it's going to be 18. "18 and still a virgin? What's wrong with you buddy!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 04:46 PM |
| 3 | Who gets men's best side: the Madonna or the Whore?The Whore gets the desire and the lust. The Madonna gets the commitment, respect, love, provision and security. The Madonna wins simply because once the Whore ages out, that desire and lust will be redirected towards a brand new Whore. So ultimately the previous Whore is left with nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 04:43 PM |
| 2 | Most men on OLD are of a similar attractiveness to the women.What is the cause? Social media? Economy? The cause is irrelevant, the fact is that it's happening. Most men didn't have tons of casual partners obviously, but they had some. As you say the best way for the average guy to get consistent sex is a relationship, and not even those are happening, thus why the sex gap is widening between the genders between the people below 30. Cultural revolution? Well, I am too lazy for that. Red Pill has become mainstream anyway. The knowledge is out there. As for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 02:26 PM |
| 1 | Do too many “unpaired” men cause societal instability?"Sex and Culture" basically talks about all this. Increased promiscuity and dacadence leads to the collapse of a civilization. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 01:09 PM |
| -8 | Why doesn't sex ed teach young women about their fertility?Male fertility decreases gradually, female fertility decreases rapidly, that's the difference and you can see diagrams online. Male fertility is still pretty high till 50. Sperm quality might decrease but it's the same with egg quality and increased risk of birth defects etc. The reality is that men can still have kids till a significantly later age. You can make the argument that those kids have higher chance of whatever condition, but at least they have the choice to roll the dice, women don't… | /r/RedPillWomen | 11/01/23 12:56 PM |
| 2 | Most men on OLD are of a similar attractiveness to the women.Male sexlessness more than doubled in the past decade, not sure where you are living, it's geting worse and the percentage rises, it's not a "small" issue that won't affect the mating market and people will keep marrying and have happy families like the olden days. Sure some will, but they get less and less. It's not about pay back or using your power to punish women. It's the mismatched timelines and I'll explain to you why. Young women on average have way more sexual opportunity than young men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 12:47 PM |
| 1 | Most men on OLD are of a similar attractiveness to the women.Male sexlessness, loneliness, lack of sex and intimacy during their most formative years certainly won't result in well rounded individuals, who want proper relationships marriage and kids. How can you even debate this simple fact is beyond me. Make them happy? How? Thoughts and prayers? Jesus. Noone can force anyone to redistribute casual sex or bring back committed relationships in the 20s, but believing that won't affect how many men interact with women later in life is clearly delusional and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 10:59 AM |
| 1 | Most men on OLD are of a similar attractiveness to the women."This "collective punishment" of women by frustrated men is an illlusion. "We will reject them because they rejected us" is a power fantasy that men cling on who have no power now and hope to get power later on. But guess what, later one, being in a relationship will still be better than using power to reject women." Wrong and here is why. You are underestimating the built up bitterness and resentment those men will acquire throughout the years. Crab mentality will creep in in the mating market.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 08:51 AM |
| 1 | Most men on OLD are of a similar attractiveness to the women.I've been drinking tap water all my life. Never saw any issue with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 07:52 AM |
| 1 | We know women love hot guys. But the average guy doesn't focus on looks-maxxing. Why?My assumption is that they run a cost/benefit analysis and come to the conclusion that the juice isn't worth the squeeze. I mean if you're short and ugly, it's not like getting a good physique, a decent wardrobe and a decent haircut will propel you enough. You might go from a 3 to a 5 for example. If you started from a pefect 5, then you might technically at best turn into a 7. Then you have to calculate the fact that men have to accumulate a certain degree of social competence to be able to get… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 07:19 AM |
| 0 | Reason why women can stay single easily is because sex is easy for themIt might not be the only reason, but it is certainly one of the reasons. Physical touch and sex usually have a big positive effect on a person's mental health and well being. However, it's not like this situation will last forever even for women. After some age, they simply won't be able to get even sex, unless they dip significantly below their standards, which most women won't do. If I were to pinpint it, for the vast majority of women, the average women basically, that age is 40. Now obviousl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 07:00 AM |
| 52 | Do too many “unpaired” men cause societal instability?They do and it is evident throughout history and this phenomenon has kept repeating itself. Now perhaps some people are optimistic and hopeful and think things won't turn out the same way this time around, but I personally beg to differ. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 06:42 AM |
| 1 | There are 50/50 male/female to hookup with each other but somehow there's a mass of men that are struggling but women are chilling. How does this make sense?My personal estimation would be like this: 40% are single and never get any pussy 50% are single and only get pussy once in a blue moon when planets align or are in a relationship and get consistent pussy 10% have access to a lot of pussy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/23 04:30 PM |
| 0 | ChadsMillions of years of evolution led at some point to three subspecies of humans: neanderthals, homo sapiens and Chads. The Chads did in fact originate from the remote region of Chad, a location of very high historical importance and a known nation today. In the ancient mythologies and religious texts, they called these people angels, demigods, demons etc. The superhuman warrior-like Chads paled in numbers compared to the numbers of the neanderthals and homo sapiens. However, they still managed to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/23 04:13 PM |
| 1 | ChadsIt's all about those pores man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/23 03:55 PM |
| 1 | Are men who are inexperienced in their thirtys going to be taken advantage of?If the woman is young and hot, they probably wouldn't mind being taken advantage of. If it's some woman a few years from middle age, they would just refuse the offer because they have grown bitter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/23 02:39 PM |
| 1 | The group photo of the Men's PPD Meet Up! Thanks for coming everyone! Great fun was had and interesting opinions on women were shared.8 virgins with ugly personalities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/23 03:21 AM |
| 3 | Green card marriages are for true love, right guys?Well at least that venezuelan girl that wants to leech my resources is 20 and really really hot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 03:42 AM |
| 5 | OMG these men are such master manipulators and so problematicWhat this proves is that Chad can be a problematic manipulator and he'll still bang. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 03:38 AM |
| 1 | Women are fucking models out of their league at 25, and can’t get their receded fat co-worker into an LTR 5 years laterBetabuxxing backup plan is becoming extinct. Even betabuxxers are waking up and realizing that it's not a good deal for them. They probably prefer spending their money on onlyfans and sugardating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 03:35 AM |
| 1 | WOMEN are making society POLYGAMOUS: the surprising consequence of female successPsychologists are catching up... finally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 03:34 AM |
| 1 | Love is the experiences you and your partner share while you are hot. When you stop being hot, love is the memory of these experiences.I mean that's true. If you met your wife at 20, she'll always to some extent be 20 in your mind. If you met her at 35, that's the youngest she will ever be in your mind. Same applies to everything else. With one you share decades of memories. With the other you didn't even know what she did before you. Also, when you meet a woman at 20, you raise 2 kids, she spends her beauty and youth on you, she has your back and supports you for years, even if she divorces you at 45, you got your money's wort… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 03:30 AM |
| 1 | Do ugly/short men get gaslit about the importance of looks?Of course they are. They are gaslit into believing their personality is not great, when actually it's probably fine. The real problem is that they lack in the looks and money department. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 03:23 AM |
| 2 | Do women flirt with good looking men differently vs average or ugly looking guys?They don't flirt with ugly guys at all. With normal guys they only flirt if there is a yacht or a lambo in the picture. With the chads they flirt by spreading their legs almost in no time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 03:20 AM |
| 1 | CMV: white guys who strictly date asian women are losersIf the girl is hot, he isn't really a loser. That's a winner baby. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 03:19 AM |
| 1 | high n, ltr with chad. Low value men can be mad all they want.No pics, no chad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 03:18 AM |
| 2 | That moment when SUPERMAN has to go MGTOW in this decade.He should also start applying Keanu Reeves's hoverhand ninjutsu to maximize his chances of survival. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 03:17 AM |
| 2 | What women DEMAND vs what men Want.Guy on the bottom left isn't just a chad, he is a giga megachad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 03:16 AM |
| 2 | [AMA] 24F Virgin Waiting Until MarriageIs NGE really the greatest anime of all time? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 03:13 AM |
| 1 | Women legit believe that there is no such thing as a below average looking womanRemember a couple of drunk college chads tapped that on a slow Tuesday and gave her that delusion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 03:12 AM |
| 2 | Body count and the odds of infidelity. (based on peer-reviewed journals and established reports)..but I thought bodycount doesn't matter? All these studies surely are pure lies manufactured by the patriarchy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 03:03 AM |
| 15 | Hamster almost reaches self-awareness; stumbles upon preselection and female mate-choice copyingPreselection confirmed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 02:54 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The real purple pill is that Wife + Mistress is the most trad arrangement for any kind of achieving man.A flawless victory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 03:22 AM |
| 13 | CMV: The real purple pill is that Wife + Mistress is the most trad arrangement for any kind of achieving man.I mean at that point you can skip the wife all together and have kids outside of marriage with one of the mistresses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 01:36 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Men would not be happy with an ugly partnerMy grandfather pretty much gave me similar advice when I was a kid, like barely a teen. And given the fact that my grandmother wasn't particularly pretty, he practiced what he preached. However, he also was f*cking a lot of young hot prostitutes on the side, till he was like 70 or so. So not sure if he indeed practiced what he preached lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 12:33 AM |
| 2 | Is there a single strict attractiveness hierarchy or several hierarchies?Physical attractiveness is mostly objective. With a subjective modifier probably ranging from -2 to +2. A man's 9 is another man's 7, but is no man's 5. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/22 09:30 PM |
| 2 | I think it’s painfully obvious that most women would rather be in a relationship with men that aren’t valued for their attractiveness.Exactly. A carefully well applied bucket of fakeup equals +1 points in attractiveness. Then you have tight dresses and skirts. And also, let's not forget the pinnacle of human engineering - high heels. All of that is another +1 points in attractiveness. So yeah, a woman can technically look better than her male equivalent on a night out. Most girls look more impressive when they are dolled up. The obvious caveat here is of course that it's all temporary. Some water and undressing is all it takes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/22 08:23 PM |
| 3 | Men are far more obsessed with height than women areWomen do prefer tall men. Anyone who is saying otherwise is lying or is clearly delusional. Usually the taller, the better, up until to like 6'4. After that, it might even work against you, unless the girl is tall herself. That being said, usually it's face>height>physique when it comes to a man's attractiveness. Most of your attractiveness comes from your face. Height and physique will only significantly impact your attractiveness if they are below average. And if they are above average, you'll… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/22 07:24 PM |
| 2 | At what income does dating prospects for an average looking man become greater than a 8/10 man who earns 75k/year?Of course it becomes much better for casual sex. It's called escorts and sugar babies. As for dating, I'd assume probably at least 500-600k, which puts you in the top 1% of earners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/22 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Bar is too Low for men .They dont even do bare minimumtl;dr Bar is high for looks and money. Bar is low for everything else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/22 04:03 PM |
| 1 | Attractiveness doesn’t exist in a vacuum. So if most men are unattractive to most women then most men ARE below averageNah, there is some subjectivity involved for sure, but most physical attractiveness is mostly objective. For example at no point throughout human history across the world, short fat weak men were preferred. Usually you only probably have a couple of points leeway on the 1-10 scale. One man's 9, might be another man's 7, but she's noone's 4. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/22 03:43 PM |
| 1 | Relationships have replaced a man's sense of accomplishment, I think this in turn makes men even more over-entitled about relationshipsNow that's a slogan fit for a President. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 04:41 PM |
| 1 | I don't think a lot of TRP gurus are really on the side of the average guy"Just be yourself" and "it's all about personality" and "reveling in your mediocrity" won't help anyone. It will set them up for failure. Because ultimately it's about finding a partner, whether it's sex or relationships, that you are attracted to, within reason of course. Are they doing it mostly for money? Yes. Does the advice work, at least to some extent? Also, yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 04:27 PM |
| 2 | Why aging women are less choosy than young women: oestrus cycles.This isn't something new or ground breaking lmao. Pretty sure there was a study long ago where they showed women pictures of the same man with his face morphed from highly feminine to highly masculine, let's say ranked from 1 to 7, starting from the most feminine face going to the most masculine face. When they weren't ovulating, they usually preferred faces 4-5. When they were ovulating, they preferred faces 6 to 7. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/22 01:20 PM |
| 4 | A new show on NBC allows contestant couples to date younger partners for a Hall Pass trial period to see if they are staying or leaving the marriage https://nypost.com/2022/12/15/peacocks-new-reality-dating-love-for-the-ages-premieres/Ah yes, the good old "suffering from too much success". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/22 12:57 PM |
| 6 | Why don't people warn men dating gets harder for them with age?When people claim men age better, they usually mean their wallet ages better, they get more socially compentent and sexually experienced, they gain more status and also have a large fertility window, since sperm is continually produced. That's all there is to it. For the fertility thing, men's sperm count decreases, but it happens gradually, not rapidly like women's egg count, thus they can have childen till later in life. Obviously both men and women with old eggs and sperm have higher chance o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 05:05 PM |
| 1 | What do you guys think of Gabor Mate being a role model for modern men?Dr. K is one of the worst role models for men, especially when it comes to dating. All he does is gaslighting people, at least from the little I've seen of him. Now I think he probably is a good psychiatrist when it comes to treating mental illness, but when it comes to dating he is just clueless. Most of his advice is basically "just be nice bro" and "be happy with yourself, you don't actually need sex/relationships". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 01:12 PM |
| 2 | Do women truly get over their "first love"?When they are laying on their bed at night staring at the ceiling, women aren't thinking about the first or last. They are thinking about the best. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 01:07 PM |
| 1 | How do people here feel about Ectolife Artificial Womb project?Not sure what is ground breaking about this. If you have money, you can already afford artificial wombs - they are called surrogates. You choose an egg donor from a long catalogue, then pay for the surrogate and boom, you have a baby that is only yours now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/22 06:36 PM |
| 3 | Trad Wife TourismA man will swim through the whole ocean, crawl under 10 miles of barbed wire and climb a skyscraper if it means he will get the woman of his dreams. If a guy believes that his chances of finding her increase in another country, then that's nobody else's business. If it's consentual, who cares? It's a fact that a millionaire in the US is a megamillionaire in some 3rd world country and will basically be way more desirable there. It doesn't make him a loser if he takes advantage of it. It actually … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/22 06:33 PM |
| 1 | Far too many people believe that men not being able to acquire sex/relationships is a MORAL failing. This could not be further from the truth.It's funny because in reality, the opposite thing is true. The lower you rank on the morality scale, the more likely you are to get sex/relationships. The easiest proof of that is whether you are willing or not to use deception and subterfuge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/22 06:09 PM |
| 2 | Question for conservative men: Would you ever raise another man's child?Why is this specifically for conservative men? Most men on the whole political spectrum would be unwilling to date a single mom, because generally it's not a good deal for them. You are required to invest time, effort and resources into another man's spawn, which doesn't biologically benefit you in any way shape or form. Most men know this consciously and subconsciously. That said, I don't think it clashes with conservative values. Even bible said that if your brother died, you should marry his … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/22 05:55 PM |
| 2 | The most shocking thing about the Red Pill, as a woman, is that Men need a Red Pill and that what is *generally* attractive to women isn't reasonably obviousExactly. 70-80 year olds most likely got married 50-60 years ago. Totally different era back then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/22 05:29 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men are often convinced that they want sex, when what they really want is an emotionally vulnerable connection.It's just a matter of priorities really. Men are more sex focused than relationship focused on average. It's ingrained in biology. Out of the constraints of modern society, a man can technically impregnate multiple women. As long as he can do it, his genes live on. There is little reason for paternal investment if he has tons of kids, some will eventually survive. In contrast to that, a woman has to make sure that the man "loves" her and is emotionally attached to her, so he will stay around and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 01:58 PM |
| 1 | No, most men DON'T overestimate their own attractivenessI haven't actually ever met a man who was short, fat and ugly and thought he ranked high in terms of looks. Not a single one. Can't say the same thing about women. Met quite a lot of them. Think of it like this. Who is getting the most positive reinforcement in today's society? Men or women? It's obviously women. Dating apps, social media, current political climate and their own same gender interactions, everything kinda inflates their own ego. From dating apps, a lot of women who are below aver… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 01:42 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men are often convinced that they want sex, when what they really want is an emotionally vulnerable connection.Give a man a different supermodel to bang every night and go ask him after some time how interested he is in this "vulnerable emotional connection" you speak of. Most guys treat this vulnerable emotional connection as the cherry on top, not as the whole cake. If they are already getting to eat the cake, then the cherry is just a small bonus and they can certainly make due without. The cake is the thing they really want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 11:47 AM |
| 3 | Is it true most men are giving up on dating?Most? Doubt it. A hell lot more than before? Absolutely. If the reward doesn't match the amount of effort required, then people will be significantly less incentivized to do it. It's common sense really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 11:28 AM |
| 5 | Men leveraging anything for dating/sex is badOnly an absolute fool would not use his leverage, if he has any of course. What other people think of it doesn't really matter. Individually everyone acts out of self interest, or at least almost everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 11:18 AM |
| 1 | People not understanding or acknowledging sex differences between men and women ruins so much of the discourse in PPDExactly. Couldn't have said it better myself. It's essentially very easily avoidable. And the same holds true for when a woman uses a man for a free meal. I mean if you aren't already fucking the girl, why would you even pay for a 300 dollar dinner when there is a high chance she'll ghost you and never contact you afterwards. Just go to a cheaper place and avoid wasting all that money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 11:09 AM |
| 0 | Do you think some women are against sex work because it takes away a lot of their power over men?I live in a country where prostitution is legal. You can easily find a 8/10 to bang for 50 euros. When I was in university, after a night out we would go to take a look at the goods for the lulz and most of the brothels were filled with 40+ year old guys, probably quite a few of them already married. For some reason, the vast majority of younger men aren't really interested in it. And believe me a lot of people are struggling with sex and relationships here as well, and there is also an abundanc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 10:43 AM |
| 1 | Men are just as terrified of aging as womenYeah I don't think we are going anywhere with this. You stated in your original post "women go for looks basically, and are only with older men for the money". I kinda agree with this. I just added men aren't as fussed about aging, because money can essentially solve their reproductive problems and get them what they want - sex with hot young chicks, even if it is at least to some extent transactional. And given that a lot of men struggle to get that without money, it is a significant improvemen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/22 12:48 PM |
| 1 | Men are just as terrified of aging as womenAlright my fault, it's not "most", it's not like I put 100% attention in every word I use, but quick google search and pew is pretty clear on this: "Some 20% of men who are newly remarried have a wife who is at least 10 years their junior, and another 18% married a woman who is 6-9 years younger. By comparison, just 5% of newlywed men in their first marriage have a spouse who is 10 years younger, and 10% married a woman who is 6-9 years younger." The difference is very significant. Again Bezos a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/22 11:36 AM |
| 1 | Men are just as terrified of aging as womenCompanionship beats a straight forward hooker/sugarbaby/golddigger/etc. but only when a certain requirement is met: she is hot. Your mention of girlfriend experience is all the proof you need. If the girl wasn't hot, noone would even pay to her sex with her, let alone pay more for "girlfriend experience". There are exceptions to this of course. If you met your wife at 20, she will always be at least to some extent 20 in your mind. Also, you have share a large history of being together, raising k… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/22 06:35 AM |
| 1 | Men are just as terrified of aging as womenYou said it yourself. "Once a month". That is certainly not enough. That's why you need more money and most kids certainly can't afford that. And "satisfying position" is all relative. Let's assume you have a 40 year old. He has two options: waste time and resources "courting" a mediocre looking 40 year old woman to "maybe" get a chance to bang her or he can skip all that and straight up pay to bang a girl he really wants to bang? It's a very easy choice to make in this scenario. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/22 05:29 AM |
| 2 | Men are just as terrified of aging as womenWell yeah obviously money is the bottleneck. But there are levels to this. At the most basic level, you don't need tons of money to get a hot escort or a hot sugar baby once in a while. If you don't have a wife and kids, what are you even spending on? You don't really need a huge house or a great car etc. And even in this very simple case, it is still an improvement for some guys. They went from barely getting laid once in a blue moon when the planets aligned with a 4/10 to banging a 8/10 or som… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/22 04:59 AM |
| 1 | Men are just as terrified of aging as womenUnlike women, men are on average way more sex focused than relationship focused. This starts from their teens and continues throughout their whole lives. It's common knowledge. If he can bang hot chicks without commitment, the allure of commitment drops by 80%. Also, unlike women, men stop believing in fairy tales after they are past 20. They are quite logical you see. Every older guy, who is approaching or has reached middle age, already knows the "love and companionship" has already sailed, mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/22 04:32 AM |
| -1 | Lower socioeconomic class men (and women) not only want people out of ‘their league’ they appear to want people who don’t exist in ‘any league’You tell me you've never met a woman who entertained a guy 5 years older than her? Who are you trying to fool here exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Most men focus too kuch on looks in dating and that impacts them negatively.For any man with options, looks are a non negotiable. Men are biologically wired to prioritize beauty and it won't change anytime soon. Pretty sure(correct me if I'm wrong) studies have already shown that men are most happy when they are married to a woman they consider more attractive than themselves, while women are most happy when they are married to a man who makes more money and is more successful than them. Men strive to acquire money and status so that they can date up when it comes to lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/22 07:35 AM |
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