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Weary of... what? Looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 01:55 PM
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Yes, it has literally never happened to me. In uni I used to go out at least once a week to bars and parties, still nothing. I don't have a problem with eye contact or holding a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 09:12 AM
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These are not fantasies, they're experiences. I had a very short lived episode of fame and within two days of my face getting on national TV each one of my exes (most of whom hated me) and a few girls who ignored me for years, all reached out to "meet up for a drink or sth haha". It's such a sobering experience
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:13 PM
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any good links for those interviews?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:10 PM
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Is there really a lot of those nowadays?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:07 PM
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Whole first paragraph is unimportant. I wasn't talking about outside context allowing the communication to reasonably take place, but about communicating overtly or covertly. You know those are all times Not talking about timing here. You legit think this kind of nature documentary description is how human females signal they’re ready to mate? Damn that's some weak reading skills. No, I think this is the humorous description of how human Bobs would signal they want a pizza. I'll assume you entir…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 08:21 PM
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No probs, it's not mine either. I still think you might not be getting what I'm tryna say, but maybe I'm just not precise enough. When you say you can "detect a creep" I understand that you're saying: "by external cues or behaviours I can figure out that someone has a hostile/antisocial/malicious personality or attitude" ...right? You're not simply saying: "some behaviours give me the ick and when I see someone who does them I call them a creep". It's the first one, not the second one?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:29 PM
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Ofc, because guys never complain that they went on a tinder date and she turned out to be very boring, bland and unflavoured. I have literally never heard a man say that as a deal breaker in regards to a woman he eagerly approached. I'm not sure about tinder, I stay away from that cesspool. We want to know more about the guy now that there's a mutual attraction. And now you're back to the things you require. Again, that's his work to do, a hurdle for him to pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 05:51 PM
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Sorry, but you kinda shifted the topic. You started out talking about women having a creep-radar and like deducing from subtle behavioral cues that dude is creepy. Now you're talking about just giving the label after some clearly antisocial behaviour happens. It's like if you told me you can tell me someone's future by looking at their palm and when I ask you how, you say "well if there is a nail stuck in it then I forsee pain". I mean technically true, but it sounds less impressive than you mad…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 05:46 PM
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I'm not sure you're good faith here, but I'll assume it for a comment more. ´Why is it bullshit? You don't know the other person, they just caught your eye and you would be open to talking to them if they started talking to you but you don't care that much if they don't talk to you. Yeah, this could all be true for the Bob example. You're not sure if Bob likes pizza, you could get a pizza, bit you don't care that much yadda yadda. All being equal, you still would realistically just go up to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 05:23 PM
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If you are getting approached, the amount of social skill you need to escalate from there is just barely above severe autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 05:16 PM
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Sorry if I come off flippantly, but I clarified my question in response to the other commenter below. I'm not talking about non-verbal cues giving context, I'm talking about a whole genre of interaction being divided into two roles in which one person uses maximum plausible deniability and the other is supposed to "shoot their shot" after solving the riddle - instead of literally just talking like normal humans. Please refer to my other comment, I gotta go do fucking squats.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 05:14 PM
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How does this relate to anything? This is in no way related to anything at all I'm saying that the amount of cloak-and-dagger, non-verbal-cue-reading, plausible deniability bullshit that goes on in early stages of romance (from approach to getting to some kind of physical intimacy) would be unthinkable and psychotic in any other human interaction unless you're in a police interrogation or a spy training exercise. And what the fuck are you doing that HR At my company for example any romantic appr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 05:07 PM
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What I'm vaguely gesturing at here is that you might "get creep vibes" and "a feeling that something's wrong", but unless you follow up on each "creep" to get some validation that he's a convicted rapist or whatever, then you have no idea if you don't just have a wild imagination. Also you have no idea how many actually creepy guys slip through your radar.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:59 PM
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In high-school/college I used to hang out in a primarily female friend group (like 7 ladies and 2 guys) and they would ridicule guys for approaching and talk shit about them on a weekly basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:53 PM
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Sorry, but you didn't give a single example. I don't mean "a context under which something might be conveyed non-verbally". Yeah, sure, this can happen everywhere. I'm saying courting/dating in it's dominant form is unique in the way that non verbal signals and covert communication are supposed to be the primary mode of communication for one side (woman) while the man is expected to take full social responsibility for the actual approach. To give a counter-example, imagine this scenario: You wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:47 PM
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See my response to the other commenter. The issue is not how you act, it's how she describes you afterward.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:37 PM
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Ah, I get it. You don't get rejected for what you did. You get rejected for what she later tells them you did. As a somewhat hyperbolic but a clear example: remember that TikTok chick from the "gym creep" video? The dude just stood there and then went by her to pick some weight up or sth. Her description was "feral, absolutely feral... he was staring at me for so long... this is why women feel unsafe in the gym... then he started walking towards me...". And this was when there was a camera recor…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:34 PM
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Not sure what you're asking. What like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:14 PM
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Rejection from one's social group is a pretty rational thing to fear
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:06 PM
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Most women have zero or single digit experience in approaching romantically. They're not better at it, they just don't fail because they don't need to try
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:05 PM
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Women don't have telepathy, but can read a creep right off. How do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:04 PM
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Can you name some other type of day to day interaction when one side of it will almost uniquely "send signals" instead of communicating and the other is supposed to take the actual full decision to engage based purely on cues and yet still can be scorned for approaching? Outside of petting stray dogs that is
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:00 PM
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less than 7 that's a lot, damn
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 03:50 PM
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The expectation isn't born because of accepting the "right instead of privilege" framing, it's born of observing the norm in society and especially one's family. Every incel has non-incel parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:35 PM
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Men say they are lonely, socializing with friends combat loneliness. Does it? Maybe for some people? I sure know it didn't combat mine, while getting a romantic partner made it vanish in an instant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:31 AM
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No, people usually say that when women "try to fix" the alcoholic that's known for beating women because "he has a good heart" and "he didn't really mean to smack me those 13 times"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:44 AM
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Why not? I'm a man and I mean it when I say it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:29 AM
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Damn, I never thought about it that way, but it really is a privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:25 AM
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None of these, maybe beside shaving neck, are really male-specific. And all of those are basic maintenance. We were talking about attractiveness boosters, that will induce some sort of a sexual attention in the other gender, like make-up and short skirts do in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:58 PM
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No, if it's not in any of the useless categories above, I'm legit interested. Go on!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:12 PM
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I don't wanna speak in too general terms, but while I agree that a lot of these things can be done without a lot of money, at least in my experience when people (and especially women) give that advice, terms like "well fitting", "nice", "fashionable" etc. just means "expensive" most of the time, when you drill deep enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:22 PM
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Umm? No, if you're wondering what I imagined you'd say, I expected you to either smugly say something offensively basic like "don't have literal worms on your skin" or "take a shower once a month", a vague subjective piece of advice that can be hand waved away when it doesn't work, such as "get a good(?) haircut" or "pick accessories that compliment your style(???)", a misunderstanding of the variance in male anatomy such as "just grow a nice beard and trim it", or an euphemism for showing off w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:15 PM
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There is an element I think people always overlook in these discussions, and one you (understandably) couldn't have observed: how much work, money, time and rejections did those guys go through in order to land these women? how much did women go to land these men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:05 PM
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How would that help? If you walk around and see people awarded a privilage that you don't get, you'll get just as bitter as seeing people having a right that you don't get.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:01 PM
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Your 4-7 are just displays of wealth. Which will work, but it's not really a "quick fix" for most people
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:55 PM
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Like what? Considering the things OP mentioned as mostly woman-exclusive hacks, what are some man-exclusive hacks you could quickly use to boost your chances?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:53 PM
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Because there aren't as many women into guys as there are men into women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:49 PM
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Yeah, I've done it a bunch of times. I don't think it's an unfair ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:15 PM
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Facepalm… if you’re getting even 4-5 hours of sleep, then your sleep needs are being met in terms of survival. If they weren’t you’d be dead right now. This is a circular argument. Google the term, I see no reason to bother with replying. The fact that you can’t even properly distinguish between the amount of sleep needed for survival Hey, notice how you had to sneak the stipulation "for survival" there? Funny, huh? I never said that. I said I am not getting what I need. Humans need on average 7…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 12:45 PM
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I'm not an academic, I wouldn't attempt defining psychological terms on my own. The APA dictionary of psychology gives this: any need that is essential to mental health or that is otherwise not a biological necessity. It may be generated entirely internally, as in the need for pleasure, or it may be generated by interactions between the individual and the environment, as in the need for social approval, justice, or job satisfaction. But in general, the term "psychological need" is very commonly …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 12:29 PM
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Classifying sex as a need won’t suddenly make you anymore entitled to it. Yeah...? That's kinda weird for you to say, because I never said it would? I don't give a shit about "entitled", I don't think anybody is entitled to anything outside of an explicit contractual bond. So what the fuck is the point of arguing that you “need” it as opposed to wanting it anyways? The same as the point of pretty much other discussion on reddit, it's not like I get paid for arguing with Qanoners or tankies eithe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 12:20 PM
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You're just demonstrating you don't know what a psychological need is. You are free to cross your arms, stomp with your foot, pout at the dictionary and start using your personal made up definitions of words, but it doesn't make them true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 12:00 PM
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Weird argument, but I'll assume good faith for the kicks. The classification of something as a human (psychological) need is general, not specific. Safety and security are needs, "being safe in a shack in northern Afghanistan" is a specific goal of a specific person living there. So, while "having sex" is a common human need, the specifics (orientation, attraction, fetishes, a specific person etc) are just personal ways to engage with and satisfy that need. Would you be down to help him (and eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:54 AM
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A psychological need would be something that a person literally couldn’t function at all without. No, this is simply false. By this definition psychological needs are an empty set with no meaning. You cannot name a psychological need that nobody in the world can function without. There are people who manage just fine not speaking to others for months or years, people who have no love in their lives and yet function, people with no goals or ambitions, people with no creativity, people with no con…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:45 AM
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If it were “very important” for a gay guy to fuck you, would suddenly you be understanding his supposed “need” (eye roll) in that situation? Yes, of course? This is exactly why laws prohibiting homosexual sex are human rights violations, because they deprive people of a basic need
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:35 AM
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Are you aware of the concept of psychological needs? It's one of those, in non-ace people at least
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:32 AM
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Can you list 3 psychological needs, OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:31 AM
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Luck. I am an average guy in a relationship. Not due to my stellar personality, or my non-toxic masculinity, or the insane amount of showers or whatever. I got lucky. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:16 AM
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expected me to spilt the bill on our first date and it felt absolutely horrible. yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:13 AM
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Teenage boys don't like me? I mean, sure, I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:12 PM
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It's the tragedy of the commons scenario. Your idea makes sense for the whole population, not for individual men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 09:02 PM
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I do, whenever I see a thread I can provide support on I do. I don't post there, because I don't have any need for support or advice, nor any thought worth sharing. I'm pretty dumb tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 06:36 PM
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Can you actually explain how it's misogynistic? How is staying safe while not harming anyone a bad thing? For the tips you quoted, the result (besides the added safety) are: 1.People see you drink... ok? Who cares? 2.You have some cute romantic banter recorded on your phone. What's the harm? 3. You make her feel special and nice, and have a screenshot of your cute romantic banter. Oh the horror
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 05:13 PM
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I meant the millionnaire at 18 kind of rich, not rare-programming-language level rich. What I'm talking about is survivorship bias. If an activity has a prominent non-changeable factor to succeeding at it (like: having rich parents, being born in X place, being attractive, having a runners gene etc), the people succeeding at it will have an overrepresentation of that trait. To give another example, I once chatted with a pro crane climber (like a celebrity) - I used to do parkour and roofing and …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 05:05 PM
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Ok, now that you explained it's more about the focus on internal vs. external issues, I actually agree that it's optically more beneficial, and would garner more sympathy. My only hangup here is... I don't think this matters either way. Society at large doesn't care about male loneliness, and even non-hateful incels/loners are demonized and hated. While I agree that in terms of PR it would be better for the whole lot of them to take the high road and hide any outwardly negative feelings, I don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:44 PM
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Hell no. It's a faulty assumption, usually called "meritocracy" or "just world". If I look at what rich people my age are doing, I'll probably arrive at the conclusion that my best shot at being rich is to hang out with strippers, buy champagne and play golf or sit in a jaccuzzi. But there's like a fundamental diff here. They have rich parents. I don't. No amount of golf and wearing those khaki shorts will make me rich. Similarily, more than a half of the population (women + top attractive men) …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:39 PM
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If someone is venting, or as you are putting it - "complaining" - then yeah, obviously. If they are seeking specific advice, and you are actually qualified to give it, then go ahead. You're a dating coach, a personal trainer, a fashion expert? Awesome. Just don't bother with some ego-driven pseudo advice aimed at insinuating any and all possible romantic failure is just a just world punishing you for being evil/stupid. "Are you showering?", "just have a good personality bro", "you have to realiz…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:28 PM
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Most BP people I know are in relationships, and they got into those relationships by doing the things they say work. This is a terrible way to sort out good advice, due to survivorship bias
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:17 PM
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It really isn’t. It’s generic because it generally works. Do you have any evidence for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:14 PM
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You're talking about a group of people who are lonely and rejected. How can such a group connect using non-negative emotions? How would that work?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:12 PM
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I go there on a regular basis but it's pretty much a dead sub
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:09 PM
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How about doing that thing that all people with even a tiny bit of empathy and emotional intelligence already know how to do with respect to literally any other struggle? Something like: "Yeah bro, I know it's hard, I feel you. Let me know if you wanna talk sometime."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:08 PM
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By the time they are old enough to get a job and drive a car and actually date Why is it that they can only actually date when they get a job and a car?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:01 PM
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go get on tinder No better way to show that you're clueless, than suggesting tinder to lonely men
/r/AllPillDebate16/05/23 11:36 AM
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By that metric, nothing is a problem. Homeless? Lol cancer is worse. Unemployed? Cancer is worse tho. Harassed? Cancer worse. Raped? At least you have no cancer.
/r/AllPillDebate16/05/23 11:35 AM
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Lmao, so if someone did what you say, then no they didn't, and even if they did they did it wrong, because by definition if they did it they'd agree with you? Google "unfalsifiability" bruv. I made a point of regularily approaching women all throught my late teens - early 20s, often in public settings. During the first 5 or so years I was in parties/pubs etc on a weekly basis. As I said, no success, unless you count growing dead inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 02:17 PM
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Relax and make it fun for yourself and you’ll eventually things will gain momentum. No. I've done what you prescribe for over a decade. Nothing (good) came of it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 11:57 AM
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Why is the app 70%+ male?
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 07:08 AM
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Precisely to hold it as an example of a dumb reasoning
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:39 PM
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I just used etymology to make a dumbass argument about how "humor is debunked" and then told the other person "look, your argument works the same way". Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:13 PM
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Just because you don't mean it in that way Please steelman for me the supposed people who do mean it in that way and explain how their use of "alpha male" is in any way "debunked" by whatever modern findings about wolves. Spell it out for me. Let's say someone says: Well there is like a super reliable truth that wolves have this ultra specific sexual and social hierarchy and the famously true study called the wolves with most access to females "alphas", and so by analogy I use the word "alpha" t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:49 PM
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You just commited a genetic fallacy. There is nothing more to explain. Etymology doesn't mean shit in determining whether something denoted by the current meaning of the word exists, and alpha males -dominant men- exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:21 PM
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I don't care where the word originated. Just like the debunked origins of the term "humor" don't say shit about whether people can have a sense of humor, some old wolf study doesn't mean shit about whether some guys are alpha males.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:19 PM
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No, this is false. https://www.etymonline.com/word/humorous https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/humorous https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/humorous https://uselessetymology.com/2017/11/29/the-etymology-of-humor/ https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/humorous https://quod.lib.umich.edu/m/middle-english-dictionary/dictionary/MED21480
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:11 PM
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Where did the name "humorous" come from for funny people?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:00 PM
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Haven't what
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:00 PM
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I might've spoken a little vaguely. I meant more of "categorization" or "sorting" or "definition".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:00 PM
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You're making some kind of a bizarre genetic fallacy there. Nobody cares about wolves, and nobody claims that the accuracy of calling square-jawed muscular fuckboys "alpha" is directly derived from some platonic transferrence of wolf sexual dynamics into humans. How would that even work? It's kind of like whining that there is no such thing as a "sense of humour" and then going on an "um akchyually" rant about how the humoral theory has been debunked. "Alpha male" is a description of a socially …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 12:10 PM
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That's been long debunked and to perpetuate the idea sets us all back. How can a post hoc description be "debunked"? please link the study you're talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 11:35 AM
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No one want to date a broke as person Fuck yeah I do, if she's a good person
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 11:33 AM
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Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 11:27 AM
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No, that's not really a common mechanic. Usually speech stats modify persuasion, such as the ability to convince others that your argument is not a weak strawman.
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 07:59 AM
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Just shower more /s
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 07:23 AM
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women are completely unhinged lunatics who are ready to have sex with an alcoholic abuser for weeks or even years This is empirically true. just to make you feel bad? OP didn't say it was to make the interviewee feel bad, you added that part.
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 07:20 AM
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Yes, you're also not entitled to a job? What does that have to do with OP's point?
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 07:18 AM
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You don't know if you can tell, unless you walk around asking randos for their age. honestly I’m not sure why you’re struggling so much Nice slimy manipulative reframing, are you a woman by any chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:03 PM
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You heard me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:31 PM
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Not in the state of Poland, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:31 PM
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You're not wrong, but I honestly just enjoy the process. I talk to chatbots as well, substance is not what I'm opening my phone for. Cheers tho
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:21 PM
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You really can't tell who is 30 and who is 20 from watching people a little and talking to them? I don't believe you. I mean if someone is balding or has hardcore wrinkles, then sure, but otherwise? I got carded last month and I'm 30. established in all ways and knows fuck about dick thank you for using more precise language, now I know exactly what you meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:36 PM
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When you reach thirty or near 30, it is extremely obvious, yes, even in a physical sense, who is 30 and who is 20. It's so obvious you can almost tell without seeing them if you could hear them speak. I'm 30 and that's some bull. These are not men. They barely have their own car, they've never held real employment of the variety all adults will understand I am speaking. They are not established I think it's pretty telling which things you chose as "marks of adulthood" that make a "real man" in y…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:25 PM
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"Life experience" is not a real thing, it's a boomer cope for old farts desperately trying to derive some silver lining of superiority in their inevitable march towards death. Also, I have friends of ages from 17 to 50. They're all great people. Age is irrelevant to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:20 PM
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There are so many alternatives to cold approaching people. Name your top 5 for lonely, average men. Do you mean have I been attacked before? Yeah, I have. I'm a small dude and I don't think that's really relevant? If someone wished to attack me, my weight won't save me from being sucker punched from the back or stabbed. I'm saying I didn't worry about that, because it's insanely improbable for a random person trying to pick me up to straight up assault me in a middle of a crowded café.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:42 PM
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And how are you a philosophy major I'm not a major, never claimed to be - it's a post grad or whatever you call that in english, I majored in law. when your profile is littered with the point of view you have lol. That's anti-philosophy. ...what. Having a point of view is "anti-philosophy"? I'm sorry, I don't know if you're joking or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:02 PM
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I know what solipsism is, I studied philosophy. Guys here don't even realise the by ingesting the red pill they're taking on an ideology and throwing away everything else. Being close minded is not solipsism. And then they all spout exactly the same things like robots I literally just pointed out a commonly overused word. That's not "spouting ideology" or whatever. What is the if not a form of solipsism? Not solipsism. I get it that you're excited about a new concept you learned about, but solip…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:27 PM
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Oh dude “die alone without knowing a woman’s touch”… really? That’s the alternative to cold-approaching? For a lot of men, yes, yes it is. Most men don't get approached by women. It's approach or die alone, unless you live in a culture with arranged marriages or sth. I call bs on you being approached by gay men and enjoying it. I mean... ok? What am I supposed to do, PM you a brain MRI showing activity in the flattery center? It feels threatening and placed expectation on me. I was approached in…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:11 PM
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I have no idea how solipsism can be male. Is there also female monadism? Intersex dualism?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:04 PM
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Wait until you hear about "entitled"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 02:17 PM
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I don't know to tell you. I've never been hit on by a woman, and it's a pretty rare thing to happen if you're a guy. As I said, it's just nice to know I'm attractive to someone
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 10:18 AM
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in which he must approach and impress women I mean unless you're some CK model, then you "must" do it if you don't want to die alone without knowing woman's touch. I've been hit on by gay men before and it made me uncomfortable Sorry that was your experience. I've been hit on by gay men as well and I found it an amazing confidence boost, regardless of my lack of interest in men. It's awesome to know someone was so attracted to me that they actually mustered up the courage to approach in a public…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:56 AM
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Depends on the country. I live in one with systemic/institutional misandry, but if you go down to those muslim theocracies shit gets wild quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:10 PM
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Plugging your ears and crying “no it’s not!!!” Isn’t an argument nor does it make you correct. Ironic coming from someone saying "Yes it is!" and plugging their ears to any response. Prove it is. The APA Dictionary states: a psychological demarcation that protects the integrity of an individual or group or that helps the person or group set realistic limits on participation in a relationship or activity. In the context of a relationship between two people, by definition it's gonna be a boundary …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:10 PM
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Congrats those are boundary on the other person behavior. That's simply a lack of understanding of what a boundary is. The point is it’s nonsense to say a boundary can only be actions that you take That you take or that are done to you. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 07:25 PM
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By that logic is saying you’re not allowed to fuck other people in a monogamous relationship not a boundary? No. Is asking your spouse to not drink or smoke around your kids not a boundary? If the kids are to small to be agents themselves, it might be. Asking them to notify you before making large purchases out of a joint bank account not a boundary? Of course not. You seem to think "boundary" just means "a reasonable request" or "a good thing". It doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 07:00 PM
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True, but that should be an obviously distinct situation. If you're some kind of an ulta-ortodox and your chaste tradwife gets mad at you and shows up with her titties out to your grandmas funeral, then sure, she's doing that to fuck with you. But if that's just her style, then you should've either discussed your personal beliefs waaaay earlier (if it's not a dealbreaker for y'all) or dropped the relationship (if it is, and you have vastly different expectations)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:10 PM
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Yeah, same here. I hate white office shirts but my GF likes the "salary boss man after a long day" vibe, so I'll indulge her sometimes if we're having a date or sth. It should be all good fun and done out of a place of wanting to do something nice for the other person. If it get's into "you can't" or "you must" territory, I think there's something wrong with the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:06 PM
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If you're suggesting it's just a behavior that you set as a instant "relationship end" switch when not accepted, then that's either an ultimatum or emotional blackmail, depending on how invested they are. Yeah, you can spin that into some "well I feel uncomfortable in this relationship if you don't immediately wear a full body burka and do 50 pushups right now", but that's just sophistry along the lines feminists use with their "males are not ENTITLED to being CODDLED and SILENCING strong female…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:59 PM
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As a dude - this is not a boundary. Boundaries are things you don't want done to you. Someone's fashion choices aren't that. You're not necessarily malicious or controlling to ask. I have asked my girlfriends to dress in a style I like before, which was actually more revealing. I've also been asked to dress differently. As long as it's not a demand but a "hey, I like this style and I would find it cool and sexy if you dressed like that more" - no harm no faul.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:47 PM
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It's about "pill" debates, which will be mostly about dating/relationship issues. It's not a general gender issues discussion sub
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 03:02 PM
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Cultural inertia. The same reason we say "bless you" at people sneezing and do a ton of other useless shit that used to have actual reasons for it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 02:12 PM
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When you ask the average Red Piller "which gender is more narcissistic?" 95% of them would say I'm not sure if it's reasonable to make up a statistic and then get mad at how those people you just made up make up statistics in their arguments. Besides, those studies use very specific definitions of "narcissistic" and "machiavellian" which are not necessarily what people mean when they use those terms in normal discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 10:52 AM
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The entitlement and narcissism Stop using empty buzzwords. My comment didn't express any sort of entitlement, nor any particular point about myself as a person to count as an act of narcissism. Neither did I say anything about having any "problem". I don't, I support female emancipation. Grow up seriously, stop acting and thinking like children. Quite ironic, coming from someone struggling with basic reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 10:25 AM
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They're gonna participate all right, everyone's gotta eat. What's gonna happen is they're not gonna overwork themselves now that there's little benefit to doing so
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 07:38 AM
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I think the issue created by literally doubling the amount of people running in the hamster wheel of capitalism at full speed is in itself a catastrophe. Add to that the AI revolution that is lurking around the corner, and there's no way in hell either us or our children will see anything other than a falling quality of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 06:42 AM
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In theory, I agree. In practice, I think it's not possible. The genie is out of the bottle.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 06:35 AM
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Not being deemed a "viable partner" by women doesn't make one a loser
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 06:29 AM
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That is the problem, not women's independence. But that problem is, at least partially, caused by women's independence
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 06:21 AM
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Go to the TwoX sub, this is their everyday talking point. Something how if you defend rapists and try to prevent them being held accountable you're no better than a rapist...? So how did you feel about holding cheating women accountable by routine paternity tests, again?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:37 AM
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If my fiance asked me to do the test I would do it. And then I would leave him. That's a cannonball dodged by him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:19 AM
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Fuck no. I have no issue going doing an STD test before fucking raw or giving her my credit history before we get mortgage together. "Uhm, no need to check, don't you trust me babe?" is the most suspicious shit one can pull
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:16 AM
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Full agree. I know a bunch of guys in a top rap group in my country, knew them before they blew up. Each one of them was an incel basically, complete "losers" and nerds the lot of them. They got big on youtube and then got a record deal and went on tour with an album. Literal everyday orgies with multiple 10/10 girls. Multiple girls on call in every city. Just on a whim. Their personality didn't magically change in 1 month, neither did their jawbone structures or whatever. Just money and fame. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 05:21 PM
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Sorry, but this is bull. When they did the study on the soldiers, they surely did a comparison of their cognitive traits/abilities and compared it to an average person of each age, and found a match to an average person of 14 years of age. If the average adult person was supposed to be a "psychological 14 yo" then that's the baseline for adult character/intellect, whatever it might be. Your post makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 11:39 AM
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If PUA methods are as effective is the author is making it out to be, then PUAs won't need to lie about being desired by other women, because they will be. All they have to do is demonstrate it. That's blatantly false. Creating an atmosphere of fierce competition is one of basic negotiation strategies for zero-sum negotiations/haggling. It works and has worked for millennia. You could say "uh, but if it works and you have buyers, why would you need to make up imaginary buyers..." Irrelevant. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 09:59 AM
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Yes, these things are enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 09:20 AM
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No. You can bend over backwards, but that's not status or class. That's just her sexual/romantic attractiveness to an average hetero male. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:23 PM
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I mean... I don't date anymore, but yeah, it's an accurate description, if a little weirdly worded.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:18 PM
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I still have no idea what your point is supposed to be. Hypergamy is the practice of marrying/coupling above one's social status or class. Women tend to do that. It's pretty much undisputed in sociology.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:07 PM
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If you are a strategic thinker, why would you prioritize a partner... You would prioritize the partners you're attracted to, and whom you can get. Or - Is it logical to be attracted to someone who... A nonsense question. Attraction is an experience, not an action. In logic, we'd say you're commiting a category error by asking that. Why is/how could financial dependency be attractive I doubt it is common to be attracted to it, but some people like submissive partners, some like to feel useful to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:55 PM
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Are you replying to the wrong person?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:50 PM
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They can, it's just less likely
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 06:51 PM
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It is, if she cannot support one. By definition
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 06:49 PM
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So why not hold women to higher financial standards, or at least the same standards than men. Because that would further narrow their options, when already women have a massive advantage in the dating market It's really basic stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 06:48 PM
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Why not use logic and date women who can already support themselves financially? What does that even mean? How does one "use logic" to change what they're attracted to, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 06:46 PM
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This is based on a false black and white understanding of trust. I trust my baker not to poison me. I don't trust him enough to loan him 50 bucks. So yeah, technically I trust him with my life but not with $50, but clearly there is some nuance here. I would say it's perfectly reasonable to ask for a drop of someone's saliva or whatever before you sign up for a lite changing obligation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:42 PM
1

IOI?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:48 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ImTheMainCharacter/comments/10huybj/influencer_records_man_in_gym_while_muttering_to/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:48 PM
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So... roommates?
/r/AllPillDebate07/04/23 11:30 PM
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Yeah, let's cut off a part of a baby boy's penis because "women like it that way". The fact that you just said that with zero hesitation shows how deep the matriarchy brainwashes people, even men
/r/AllPillDebate07/04/23 02:26 PM
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As a man in a great relationship, I'm definitely oppressed for my gender.
/r/AllPillDebate07/04/23 02:13 PM
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It doesn't matter. These things can both be "one of the biggest problems" in dating. They're not mutually exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:17 AM
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It's all over for plannercels, apparently
/r/AllPillDebate05/04/23 09:42 AM
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No, it doesn't really matter whether the woman is attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 05:49 AM
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I'm sorry, I don't know how to make it any simpler for you. Data from a literal cheating site is not a good indicator on how likely to cheat average people are. These are not average people. The data source is inherently skewed
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 03:03 PM
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I'm sorry, I have no idea what you're talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:10 PM
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No, if they're using an app dedicated to cheating, they're not regular in terms of their propensity to cheat. They're a hyper-selected group.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:08 PM
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Beggars can't be choosers
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 01:42 PM
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So... you agree with everything I've said, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:47 PM
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Sure dude, the "like really good" clothes just grow on trees
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:10 PM
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Are you suggesting it's reasonable to be rejected 51 times and suddenly decide the answer is to adopt an ideology that says the opposite sex should be stripped of rights and is inherently stupid? The moment you feel the need to ask a question with such a bizarre combo of qualifiers, I think you should reevaluate whether you're engaging in good faith. I've never suggested anything, I never commented on "reasonability" of anything, I don't think one can "adopt an ideology in answer" to something. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 11:53 AM
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You said Dress well. Like really well. Get your money up. Be social competent and dominant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:41 AM
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So... "just be rich" ey?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:07 AM
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One of the biggest problems with dating isn't women trying to get the best men, it's men trying to get more than one woman. These are not in any way contradictory
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 09:50 AM
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How did you approach them, and what do you mean by "a few times"? Less or more than 50?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 09:47 AM
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I never said anything about paying for sex. Are you intentionally obtuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 03:04 PM
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If that’s something that’s happening to you, have you considered that maybe becoming stronger/richer/more confident isn’t the best way forward? What if I'm directly told, verbatim: "I would have sex with you if you were richer"? What if after a week of becoming one of those things I get more sex than in the preceding decade?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:54 PM
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Ok, so the answer is....? What makes people, usually men, bitter and angry, is repeated rejection of their effort. Most women, even the lonely ones, never make any signicifant effort in looking for a partner and aren't rejected but just simply not approached. Not being approached is standard for most men. It's repeated, active rejection that erodes your soul
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:45 PM
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I didn't have my first real boyfriend until I was in college and yet somehow I've managed to not fall into a hole where I think men are barely human beings who should not be allowed to vote and don't deserve rights. Odd. How many hundreds of men have you approached and been rejected by in this timeframe?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 11:37 AM
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Most people don't want to become bodybuilders nor do they care about having gigantic biceps or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:08 AM
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Based and epicurean
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 06:12 AM
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No, neither do I care.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 05:12 PM
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That depends on the country obviously. In mine, women are exempt from military service and get to retire earlier
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 04:29 PM
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Yes, it was a horrorshow. I'm married now
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 08:08 AM
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I haven't seen any data on that, so I can't just self assuredly state you're wrong. But that's the opposite of my experience, so either one or both of us seems to live in a bubble
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 07:37 AM
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I think there's just something inherently tedious and dehumanizing in being "the person who asks", having to present yourself as the best of many options and repeated rejection. It's pretty similar, no matter if it's a job search, a series of dates or a cold-calling sales job. Having done all of these, the only positive experiences I had were in sales, where I wasn't the product - so when people repeatedly rejected and shat on the product, I was kinda ok with that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 07:36 AM
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I'm 30, and I guess in a way, I am defeatist. Looking back, I don't think the years of grueling work that dating as a hetero man were, were worth it. It's something I am unwilling to experience again, so if the marriage doesn't work out in the end, I'll be focusing on my work and hobbies and on cultivating friendships, instead of interacting with women in a romantic capacity
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 07:22 AM
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No, I was actually very excited and optimistic to get into dating. This is the attitude and mindset that I got as a result of years of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 07:18 AM
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I'm not talking about hate, I'm talking about not being very interested by the paid labour you're forced to provide to a capitalist in order to afford rent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 07:14 AM
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That's a fantasy, not how things actually work. Trying to perform and "sell yourself" in a highly competitive environment isn't "fun" for the vast majority of people
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 07:11 AM
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I'm in a relationship for the personality and connection and the mutual dynamic and caring for each other and love and everyday small affection. I barely know what my wife does in her job, she doesn't know what I do in mine. It pays the bills. The bills are not the point or us being together.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 01:12 AM
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I appreciate the sentiment in the last sentence. Well, it's purely theoretical, I'm married now and I don't intend to ever date a woman again, no matter how the marriage turns out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 01:10 AM
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Honestly, I wish I had enjoyed any single one of the dates that I went on. It was never fun. Always a job interview. But I'm happy for you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 12:53 AM
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I'm not sure what you're talking about. My wife was unemployed for almost 2 years recently. I have no idea what her monetary status has to do with our love.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 12:51 AM
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Yeah, choose better people and vet the psychos out. Nothing to do with money
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 12:45 AM
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Thirdly, dates are supposed to be pleasant. To women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 12:42 AM
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A man with no job most likely has no job so women can't use them for anything so they have no interest in them LMAO do you guys even read what you write. Do you honestly expect a grown-ass woman to date a guy without a job? Yes. I am completely fine dating a woman who has no job, I don't base my valuation of humans on their net worth or employment status. And since women are humans just like I am, I do expect them to treat me with this basic human dignity. Well, expect is a big word. But it woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 12:40 AM
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Eastern Europe here. I've been asked all of those things on most of my dates. I actually left a date once after hearing the salary question
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 12:35 AM
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What? That's literally the least interesting thing about the majority of people. I'd rather ask what they do in their free time. You know, the one where they actually choose what to do without compulsion
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 12:31 AM
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And many people are passionate about the work they do, or at least interested in it. More like a slim privileged minority
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 12:25 AM
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There's only a limited amount of playful banter you can squeeze out of a deadpan job interviewer
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 12:22 AM
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That question is irrelevant You literally said it's not just "a few psychopaths". That question is relevant, because answering it tells us, whether it's just a few psychopaths or not
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:17 AM
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This is not a problem of a few psychopaths. Yes it is. What percent of men do you think is running around raping women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 08:24 AM
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not a single woman has ever mocked me or said “ew” to my face You're pretty lucky then
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 08:16 AM
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dating a woman who thinks they are better than you is awful. Yeah, and for a lot of dudes that's all they'll ever get
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 06:22 AM
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I mean it's super weird, but it is perfectly victimless.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 10:10 PM
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I have never heard of the "sex trapping" thing happening, and I'm not sure it's a realistic scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 09:20 PM
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What kind of "should" do you mean? Morally? No. A woman is not entitled to anything, he shouldn't do anything. People should be loved for who they are, not what they can pay. Pragmatically? Mooostly not. Unless you're truly rich, it won't work. Most women have options enough and can easily make a living nowadays.
/r/AllPillDebate27/02/23 09:54 PM
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Or you can have a low paid job that you enjoy. Or half-time a better paid one
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 09:38 AM
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I always understood that statement to mean "more prone to emotional lability" and not "more intense in their emotions". As a guy, I'm not gonna be an asshole one week and then a cool dude the next because the Aquarius went into retrograde and my chakras unlocked and hormonal tides have shifted in my brain. Whatever personality I have today is gonna be pretty much the same a week, a month and a year from now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 11:21 PM
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Resentment isn't really avoided or cured by intelectually accepting something. You might accept it and still feel bad about it
/r/AllPillDebate20/02/23 04:13 PM
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You're not making the argument for your title. All of what you said implies that men before their late 20s are mostly unvoluntarily single. It doesn't imply the reverse. It can be true that the tools of escaping involuntary celibacy become achievable mostly in the late 20's for those for whom they can actually work. Which is not necessarily the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 09:16 PM
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I hold women to the same standard as myself, which is to keep their word on an important matter between loved ones. I don't think women are some hormonal/emotional automatons that can't be trusted
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 04:07 PM
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Is it idiotic to trust your wife if she explicitly says "I will have an abortion, I promise you that"? Because if you think so, then you should be sleeping in body armor and probably testing your food for poison as well
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 02:19 PM
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You're not "trapped" if you have an easy exit but choose not to take it because of your religion or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 01:54 PM
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Nah, this "natural result" is bullshit argument. It's not an expected result if you've agreed on using birth control and she agreed to have an abortion in the case of pregnancy. Dying is a natural result of choking, but if I eat hastily and start choking and my wife just smiles at me as I turn purple instead of helping, I have her to fault as well as myself - even more probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 01:49 PM
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Every single person I’ve met IRL who said they were baby trapped were 1) male How is that a surprise? As a woman you can just go and abort it. As a man you're fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 01:21 PM
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That's kinda like saying "if you don't wear body armor to sleep and your wife stabs you in the heart, you earned it". Like technically yeah, but I'd still assume a loved one to not be an inhuman monster plotting my demise
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 01:19 PM
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This reminds me of the time where I witnessed a very similar situation, where a "concerned mother" profiled a dude in his 20s sitting in McDonalds with a 15 yo girl as a "probable pedophile" and called the mall security. I was that dude. I took my younger sister out for her birthday because our parents couldn't join us that day. The fucking banshee screamed at me for a solid minute until I threatened to call the cops, and "creep" was one of the slurs she used the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:59 PM
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That's absolutely not how the word "possible" works in this context. It's possible for me to win the lottery. This doesn't mean I ever will
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:25 PM
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You're honestly never heard a man described as "creepy looking"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:06 PM
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Young women can't be creepy, at least by the modern feminist usage
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:00 PM
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Yes, this means it's possible. Not that it's likely
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 03:53 PM
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It's money given to the woman with no obligation to spend it on the child. She can buy a birkin bag if she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 03:19 PM
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Wait, they had sex. Isn't sex always consent to the probability of having a baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 03:03 PM
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That's exactly how it works here in Poland as well. "It's not for the mother, it's for the child" yadda yadda
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 03:01 PM
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"Creep" is simply a slur for "undesirable man" nowadays. Don't pay it any attention. Similarily with the "entitled" and "owed" framings. It's just a rhetorical trick. A woman will act like an abusive asshole to her spouse and him meekly asking for the verbal abuse to end will be spun as "a manchild thinking he's entitled to silencing female voices" on TwoX
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 02:37 PM
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He never said anything about race, you did
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 02:38 PM
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Absolutely not. Here in Poland you can be 90 and as long as the person you're fucking is over 15, you're in the clear legally
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 11:55 AM
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Please explain to me, in detail, how come society hasn't collapsed on itself since Photoshop came out. Everything you said applies to it. Yet, shockingly, nobody cares. Nobody's terrified that someone is gonna photoshop their face onto Hitler's body and send it to their boomer boss.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 10:45 PM
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Old people. There are millions of 60+ year olds who are not adept with technology to the level you'd think. I'm sorry, but this claim is simply absurd to me. They're old, not from the fucking middle ages. They know what a "doctored photo" is, they've seen CGI in their life, they know that computers can alter images. You're acting like they're some cavemen afraid that a camera will steal their souls and talking to the "tiny people" inside the TV. Old gramps doesn't need to know what Stable Diffus…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 10:01 PM
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I used "legal" as a shorthand for "legally acquired". It is legal to reuse photos from someone's social media This fully depends on the country.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:50 PM
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The pictures you would use for a deepfake would be legal pictures of them, for example from their social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:09 PM
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There will be those who know nothing about deepfakes and will take what they see at face value (pun intended) Who? Like honestly, who's simultaneously both in the "uses internet, gets sent viral videos" group and in the "never heard about deepfakes in 2023 and is not even aware of the existence of photoshop-like tech"? How many such people are there? Now imagine this. As a guy, a video of you is made where you are getting anally fucked by another guy from behind, and then taking his cumshot to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:08 PM
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Not as a whole, because I don't believe in treating people like homogenous groups. There are a lot of women whom I like, if that answers your question
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 04:34 PM
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No, I just hate bigotry. I argue with people on various hate subs
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 06:37 AM
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It's also how they vet themselves if I see them attempt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 09:54 PM
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The guys who whine and complain, or call them "manipulative" are loser boys with no game. I can't speak for anyone else, but for me, I'm just simply not interested in playing games like that. I'm not in high school anymore. If you act like a wannabe courtroom drama character, you're not in my target group
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 07:01 PM
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Yes... Describing men in general for what the tiny criminal minority of men are is not hateful. ...absolutely is hateful
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 10:28 AM
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The only thing I’ve ever done to men is not fuck or date them when they wanted, or what was required by my job Cool, nobody cares about who you date. The post was about hostility, not your romantic choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 07:14 AM
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Of course, from the context I assumed it was about the women in online women-centric spaces. But otherwise, full agree
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 07:13 AM
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Stop making up false dychotomies. The moment I see anyone molesting, catcalling etc. anyone else, regardless of gender, I'll gladly step up. Take responsibility for your ilogical, hateful rhetoric instead of hiding behind some imaginary either/or scenarios
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 07:12 AM
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abused by their male partners and that they can't leave You're not "in a relationship" at that point, you're being kidnapped
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 12:31 AM
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men have used all these things to terrorize women which "men" exactly? be mad at those, not some innocent people who happen to have similar genitals to the ones you dislike
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 12:29 AM
3

That's everyday talk for everyone living in a bad neighbourhood
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 12:25 AM
3

Neither of those things should make you hateful towards a whole half of humanity
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 12:24 AM
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Being "like, a total creep, yikes" is in the eye of the beholder. And that's probably you in her eye, no matter how polite you tried to be
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 12:16 AM
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First of all, every single time a woman has approached me in public it was either an attempted mugging, a scam, or a beggar. So yeah, I know how that feels. Secondly, everyone from the opposite sex doesn't want to penetrate you. Not even half of them. Probably a few percent at best
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 12:10 AM
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I would absolutely do it and have done so before. What's wrong with trying to meet people?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 12:07 AM
1

The orgasm gap is a thing. Most men aren't that good at sex. Huh. Maybe women are just bad at orgasming?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 12:05 AM
13

I've dated thousands. How does that even work
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 07:45 AM
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If a bar or a club had a 3:1 male to female ratio it would go out of business in two weeks. What? That's a pretty normal ratio for a bar
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 07:25 AM
1

This happened to my school colleague and his gf broke up with him after that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 02:59 PM
6

I'm just saying, arriving at blackpill-esque views is a completely organic process for lot of men, and the name/communities are just a post hoc connection based on common experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 10:05 AM
0

The Woman Who Goes Home With You? Her impression does. If you back down she's probably going home with him and not you. I know, I had it happen to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 07:54 AM
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Grown-ass men with jobs (that isn’t professional fighting) and bills aren’t getting into fights for no reason Is defending yourself not a valid reason? It happens all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 07:52 AM
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At least you're honest, which I suspect isn't the norm in the replies in this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 07:50 AM
3

It happened to me before, twice
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 07:47 AM
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Hi, as a man I've also never seen those forums defended and I also think they're vile and people doing shit like that (men or women, idc) should rot in jail
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 07:14 AM
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I think this pesimism is simply a result of experience. As a 30 yo, having probably the majority of my "dating life" behind me, I can only say it was the most pessimistic, soul crushing endeavour of my life
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 07:02 AM
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These are all ideas many men arrive at by just living their life and interacting with women. “don’t ask a fish”, “women give awful advice” This is 100% the case. Dating advice I got from women as a straight male were some of the most out of touch, "let them eat cake" things I ever heard
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 06:43 AM
2

Neither, it's a genre of media
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 06:21 PM
2

Just answer
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 03:20 PM
6

Exchange of information is so oppressive How do you feel about revange porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 08:10 AM
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It’s not doxxing if it’s a public profile with info you willingly posted Depends on your jurisdiction, but it absolutely can be
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 08:08 AM
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if they were stealthed or stalked or something. If there is a crime commited against you, go to the cops instead of making a vigilante facebook group
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 08:06 AM
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Yes, because slander is a science-fiction term and it never happens irl
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 08:05 AM
3

Social skills are skills like all other, they atrophy after a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 03:45 PM
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I think most people become more boring as they age. I sure have. It's way harder to be interesting with a 9-5, a frail fucking body and a bunch of obligations smothering you every minute of the day
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 03:43 PM
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Exactly the same way I like men. Some are fine, some are douchebags. The only difference being I usually have more things to bond over with other men, since a lot of hobbies are pretty gendered for whatever reason edit to answer the questions directly: Do you deep down see women as equals? In like a human way? Yes. Socially? As slight superiors. Do you think women and men can connect intellectually and that such a connection is the basis for a relationship? I don't much believe in "connecting in…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 03:30 PM
5

To be rejected you have to apply for something or willingly ask someone for something. This is not necessary for bullying to happen
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:59 PM
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Honestly, I don't even know of it's the data we have on those guys, I doubt there are specific sources for that. I'm mostly referencing my experience as a pretty regular, somewhat ugly dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:06 AM
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Rejection and entitlement go hand in hand. If you feel rejected then by default you felt entitled to the object(s) of your desire. That's some bizarre post-hoc moral attribution. If I buy a lottery ticket and don't win and get sad, does that mean I "felt entitled to the jackpot"? Or is it literally the most normal human reaction to having your effort/money go to waste?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 09:02 AM
2

There's a difference between bullying and rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 08:54 AM
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I honestly think this is the most underestimated factor in the whole incel/lonely men/blackpill debacle. After finishing college me and my gf were both looking for jobs in the same field, both with very limited success. While we both experienced a similar psychological process, I recognized that immediately as something I've already went through. You try to present yourself the best you can, go out there, initiate, get initial validation, a rush, you start thinking this is finally it, then you g…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 08:50 AM
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I understand and wish you all the best, I hope you find some good people you vibe with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:17 PM
2

From your post it pretty much sounds like being a regular dude
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 12:54 PM
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Yes, unequal distribution of wealth is the most pressing issue there is. The needs of love, acceptance and intimacy are important, but food and shelter are moreso
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 12:24 AM
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younger people are more attractive That's literally all there is to it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 12:07 AM
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threatening to “not contribute to society” if they can’t get laid That's their prerogative. You're not entitled to their contribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 12:03 AM
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so... you admit they're actually not threatening, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 11:30 PM
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Can you quote the supposed statement that "women should be forced to marry men and give birth as a reward for men"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 11:23 PM
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which is a bullshit take
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 01:57 PM
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The topic wasz and I quote sex with randos no one specified the amount. You did, once I called your bull, as to quickly change the claim into one easier to defend
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 06:48 AM
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Not really. I agree abortion bans hurt women more than they do men, but in this case it's fully motivated by the "life begins at conception" religious soul crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 06:41 AM
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Sure, but it was specified she lives in Europe
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 06:39 AM
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This fully depends on the country. If Mary lives in Poland, for example: She will get retirement 5 years earlier. She never had to have military qualification. She will never be forced to do military training. In case the Russians get too uppity, she will not be drafted. She has different (more lenient) physical labor standards in the workplace. There are special women-only stipends and programs she can use to get better education/training.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 11:43 PM
1

Oh, so now we moved the goalpost to "extensive"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 10:48 PM
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As a man, I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 05:44 PM
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Speak for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 09:57 AM
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You thinking we revolve our life around sex That's the opposite of their point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 09:56 AM
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Fuck no, I don't any pictures of myself nowhere on the internet. I'm not sure I'd say maxxed, I'd still like to bulk up more. But generally I'm 85kg at 180cm, pretty low bf. Weakling legs tho
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 08:04 PM
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As a more or less blackpiller, this is exactly what I did. Beyond the functional part of being stronger (and especially flexibility), it was a gigantic waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 05:42 PM
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I just call these women incels. Not in the original sense of involuntarily celibate, but the modern sense of "member of an online sexist hate group". They get furious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 11:52 PM
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I have a GF and she's as redpilled as I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:15 PM
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It's not even about any magical intuition. Having worked in public legal services, I'd say 90% of abusive relationships I've seen would have been prevented by this easy checklist. Don't get into/ stay in a relationship with a drug addict or an alcoholic. Don't get into/stay in a relationship with a criminal convicted of violent offences. Don't get into/stay in a relationship with someone who threatens or uses physical violence. Simple as. Poof, domestic abuse almost eradicated overnight
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:33 PM
2

I guess it depends on whether you work in retail/customer service or go out on weekends
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 02:26 PM
5

How would one "miss" being approached romantically
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 01:20 PM
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It's obviously purely anecdotal, but I've never been approa hed by a woman, nor do I know any man who's been. On the flipside, women I know are approached on an at least weekly basis
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 01:18 PM
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maybe stop laughing at all the jokes your mates make about men who cry and men who visit “shrinks” I've literally never encountered that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 12:40 PM
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I'm sorry, but I think you should read more carefully. The sentence you're referencing begins with an "if". It's a hypothetical aimed at showing that we can't assume something wasn't hard just because a person finally managed to pull it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:48 AM
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It's not an advice sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 02:35 PM
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I obviously used "boomer" in the generic internet use, as a synonym for "old person". Which should be blatantly obvious when in the preceding sentence I talk about the relevant generations being those dating in the era of dating apps/internet. If you believe that average men don't do fairly well in real life Blah blah, moving the goalpost, motte and bailey, strawman. I never said that. I said dating is hard for men, not that they don't do fairly well in life. Hypothetical worst case scenarios It…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 07:28 AM
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Ok, I'm not a native speaker, so I might be wrong about it. But we're not talking about a set of numerical values. We're talking about aesthetics. Doesn't "average" has a meaning of "like a majority" or "normal" in the context of unquantifiable stuff like that? Like if I say "I'm just an average person" I'd understand it to mean I'm lower-middle class, I'm neither fat not thin, middle age etc. I wouldn't go and count a literal average in a mathematical sense to arrive at a conclusion that since …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 12:09 AM
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why does the standard have to be based in direct comparison to women? Because unless you wanna use the teeny tiny minority of NBs as a comparison, this is literally the other half of all humans. I'm not talking about comparing men to women, per se. I'm talking about comparing them to everyone else. That's how we do comparison. If I say white people under-perform in badminton tournaments, I'd mean they do worse than non-white badminton players. Just because an upper class exists doesnt mean every…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 12:02 AM
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The subject is the rate of success or failure by average men in the world of dating. I'm sorry, but I don't think citing lifelong marriage stats gets us there. If I tried to ask out a thousand women, faced rejection every day, spent millions on self-care and status symbols and worked on my social standing for years of grueling work and then I got into a 2 year unhappy marriage with a woman who sacked me for a pool boy - I'm a winner in your book. I'm in the "got married" stat. "Dating wasn't har…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 11:54 PM
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Most dudes are average by definition
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 11:44 PM
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Most are not average. What
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 11:41 PM
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what did women have to do with the post How else would you set up a standard of what it means to "have it hard in dating"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 11:40 PM
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Those are the facts, folks. We instinctively know it through our everyday observations and now we absolutely know it based on the empirical evidence provided above. Can you please show on the empirical evidence where it touched upon your central claim which is that men don't have it hard dating in real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 11:39 PM
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Are you a man OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 11:12 PM
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The chart is not about shaming at all in fact, it explains why men consider fat women less desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:51 PM
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Yeah, sadly idiots are aplenty
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:21 PM
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No. You shame actions. Shaming actions is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:11 PM
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Generally yes, unless someone gossips about it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:09 PM
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Why not? Shaming people for their repeated lifestyle choices seems to me much more defensible and legitimate than shaming them for the way they were born
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 04:19 PM
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That's a curious shift in wording. Essentially, there actually seem to be more below average men for certain characteristics. There are also more above average men. We are talking about regular dudes. Regular dudes are average, by definition. If you wanna claim an average male is "below" an average female, I'd like you to try and explain the criteria for that evaluation without sounding genocidal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 03:43 PM
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No idea, I'd assume it depends on the country
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 02:42 PM
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They are, along with the marriage rates
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 02:39 PM
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Regular dudes ARE factually below a bunch of women! Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 02:12 PM
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Why would I explain a statement I never made?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 02:11 PM
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They're looking for a man who is at least at their level of education/career. They want a man who is similar to them Calling this "similar to them" is wishy-washy. They are preoccupied with the social cred and money, not having the same taste in coffee or movie genres. Besides, I don't really feel strongly on whether you call it hypergamy, homogamy+, or whatever else. My point is, women's standard of looking for partners with (equal or)higher social standing, combined with emancipation, obviousl…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:23 PM
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I never specified any "shoulds" and I'm not really interested in making prescriptive statements. I'm saying that since the pre-emancipation relationship requirement of "higher status than me" is relative, and men don't have such a requirement towards women, this means emancipation of women had to result in a disjoint between how attractive an average man is to an average woman (below average) and the reverse (at least average). This all comes back to how there's little self awareness by those wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:06 PM
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I both agree and disagree with what you wrote. I agree hypergamy is absolutely not needed nowadays - i.e. women don't need to ensure their survival by picking the wealthiest possible dude. On the other hand, social changes often lag behind the reason behind them, sometimes for centuries, even when the reasons are long gone. And assuming that the social requirement for men to be higher status is still lingering (which I'd argue) - notice that women getting it better is actually a negative for men…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 11:43 AM
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Slightly overweight? No, absolutely not, they're good. I just only really have a beef with people being unhealthily obese. I absolutely don't care if a pretty girl has bigger hips or a bit of a tummy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 10:50 AM
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Unattractive men don’t even exist to me That's pretty ghoulish
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 10:39 AM
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Being fat is a choice. Having a small dick is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 10:39 AM
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Your meme shouldn't aspire to be survivable, but to be funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 08:33 AM
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Society didn't give me a husband. He isn't an object that can be handed over... Yeah, yeah, you did that talking point already, we know, we know. I pay farmers and doctors for their services. Oh! So it turns out they voluntarily choose to give their time to you. And they're not objects! So they're directly analogous to your husband who voluntarily chooses to give his time to you and is not an object! Are: lack of medical care; food insecurity; unemployment - real problems people can complain abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:41 AM
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This is the epitome of the "wall of text" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:36 AM
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Sociopath take
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:13 AM
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Whose lives are spent producing objects? Who exactly constitutes "support systems"? Do you expect farmers or doctors to just step in and hand you hours of their lives? Do you feel entitled to a support system made off the emotional labour of other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:12 AM
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Wanting human interaction ≠ demanding a woman reciprocate. I never said that it did, another dodge. Because those people take personal responsibility Personal responsibility is irrelevant to my point, as I specifically explained to you. There are people who wish for more human interaction and don’t turn around and blame people for not talking to them. I mean yeah, people are obviously to "blame" (be responsible) for their choices. People are not vending machines where you stick personal responsi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:08 AM
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Sorry to burst your bubble but this weaksauce abusive-relationship style rhetoric doesn't work well on text where people can check previous posts. Why can’t y’all? I can, I have absolutely no problem socializing. Never said otherwise! Might be in part due to having empathy, which you clearly lack. If you have zero human interaction it’s your doing. Yup, a red herring. I don't care what is and what isn't someone's doing. We were talking about the way you reframe problems as "entitlements" in orde…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:51 AM
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Every study on the subject actually proves you wrong. Being hateful, violent and abusive attracts women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:41 AM
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Is it societies job to provide you with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:37 AM
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You can re-frame every human interaction or problem in terms of supposed entitlement. Public healthcare? You think you're entitled to doctor's work? You'd like someone to stop the rapist from raping you? Do you think you're entitled to male safety, owed their intervention? Oh you're being persecuted for being gay in a fundie town? Do you think you're entitled for people to talk to you and sell you food? It's an obvious manipulation tactic. Dudes are sad because they have no human connection or i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:35 AM
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As always when someone vaguely gestures at hypocrisy on the internet, you're pointing at multiple people and getting mad they're not acting the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:27 AM
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I'm talking about the time I was hit on by a tall, macho, jacked, openly gay man, soon after I hit puberty. It was awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 07:53 PM
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Ok? Nobody asked
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 03:11 PM
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You are blaming women from Ukraine for the fact that men cannot legally. Please quote me ever blaming ukrainian women for anything, or stop running your mouth trying to put stuff into mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 01:31 PM
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First, that's another red herring. I'll assume you acknowledged that men were forced to stay in Ukraine while women were allowed to leave. Secondly, idk what you mean exactly? I cannot vote or be a political candidate in Ukraine, I'm not a citizen. I helped Ukrainian refugees, including men applying for international protection after illegaly escaping the country
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 12:28 PM
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"Your arms look delicious", being looked at with desire and being called cute? Hell yeah, lol. Seethe more.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 12:21 PM
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Yes, I can remember voting on that in the secret man-council of all men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 12:11 PM
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Meanwhile, the percentage of women in the military in Ukraine is now 22% and increasing. Nice red herring. What percentage of Ukrainian women were prohibited from leaving the country due to their gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 12:06 PM
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How many of them were forced to stay?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 12:04 PM
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I've had that exact thing happen a decade ago and it was such an ego boost tbh. I'm not gay, but compliment is a compliment
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 11:49 AM
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Nice
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 11:47 AM
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I'm 190cm Checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 11:47 AM
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It would be amazing to get a compliment, I don't care whether it's from a granny, a boy or a dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 11:46 AM
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Yeah. The same way if a woman approaches me all flirty in the street I know she's not actually flirty but a promoter for a strip club or about to scam/rob me. Men who say a women is attractive usually actually think she's attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 11:44 AM
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Yeah, whenever I hear femcel talk, I like to ask them how many men they asked out that week.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:23 AM
1

Average really
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:44 PM
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This doesn't address the post in any way
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:28 PM
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If you stopped being an incel that hates women you would immediately figure it out and it's not my job to explain it to you mighty convenient
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:27 PM
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At least make them good tho
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:17 PM
2

Depressed in a colloquial sense, not a clinical one
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:05 PM
3

Sure am
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:34 PM
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It's not, it's dissing single women. It's just not racist, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:18 AM
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But those can be fixed without giving people to other people. Not really tho. They all require labour of multiple people. Do you feel eNtiTLeD to enslave farmers so they grow your food, huh? Im saying it sucks to be alone Cool, we seem to agree then
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:16 AM
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No, I don't see how the post would be implying there is something wrong with the black kid. Especially since she has a white one in her other hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:12 AM
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That's a weird way to say "I'm unable to explain myself"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:56 AM
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I'm not sure why you're so invested in strawmanning others. So the alternative is to make women date who they don’t want? Never said that. No, I think this is the natural consequence of emancipation, and we can't go back. Society didn’t promise you a wife or sex. It never promised me a job, a home, or food either. Does it mean unemployment, homelesness or food insecurity aren't legitimate problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:55 AM
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It's not really wrong in any moral sense. It just fucks a lot of men over. But that's supply and demand more than anything
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:48 AM
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Women are not a race? Wtf are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:44 AM
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Y'all only see value as sexual desirability that's what the post is about
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:37 AM
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Have you even read the post? The guy is literally asking for a way out. He's depressed, not proud
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:36 AM
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Yeah I would. If I'm getting murdered, idgaf which exact demographic is doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:14 AM
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Women in the western nations legit have it better than most kings have had it for thousands of years as well. Literally everything you wrote applies to women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:48 PM
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How is the gender of the perpetrator relevant to whether men or women are more likely to be victimized?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:46 PM
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I have no idea who the person in the picture is and what this is about exactly. In the country I live in, men are subject to military qualification and training, and possibly draft - under threat of prison - while women are exempt. Women have a lower retirement age, despite living longer. Women get preferential treatment in prisons, by law, for no specific reason. Meanwhile there isn't a single law that grants men any privilege over women. There are no public DV shelters for men, no educational …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:44 PM
5

What a sad existence, what void is being filled. Why assume a "void being filled"? Can't people just enjoy having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 12:35 AM
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So you define "emotionally stunted" as "acting unhealthily"? What is exactly "unhealthy" about having sex with multiple women, assuming safe sex practices?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 11:45 PM
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No, she never answered how to differentiate between the two. She just gave a hyperbolic example of one of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:20 PM
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Answer my question instead of trying to throw red herrings.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:00 PM
6

Why would any of that affect men so disproportionately tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:56 PM
13

How do you differentiate between someone being "emotionally stunted" and someone having different goals than you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:53 PM
18

Nobody has said anything about anybody being "owed sex". You're arguing against a strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:49 PM
14

Are you arguing it's "misandrist/toxic" or are you arguing it's incorrect?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:48 PM
1

Ok, but first of all, that would massively shift your claim into a very specific "women don't desire men unwilling to commit political violence". But... is that actually the case? Are those alpha chads that women are flocking to more prone to political violence? I don't really think so. I think they are actually the opposite - people succesfull in the current status quo are more often then not gonna be satisfied with the current system. Isn't the whole meme about political activist men that they…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 07:44 AM
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If you’re with her because you love her you believe she’s above average That's such a bizarre take. It should be the opposite. If your love is dependent on her being above average, then that love is there for selfish reasons. I love my girlfriend regardless of how she compares to some "average" woman. Secondly, this would apply in reverse, no? So shouldn't my gf break up with me because I'm above average if she truly loves me? Your logic is so wild. And thirdly, you never answered my question. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 03:18 PM
2

What if the woman is average? I mean usually.. she's gonna be. That's kinda how averages work
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 02:52 PM
2

Never said that, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 02:23 PM
1

Yeah, that's bullshit. Neither of my grandmas nor grand-grandmas worked a salaried job, and they were lower class.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 01:00 PM
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Modern men are fairly non-violent on average. This has led to modern women looking up to the "higher value males" for said security How does this follow in any way? Violent men tend to be lower-class, lower-income, poorer health, lower status etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 12:55 PM
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Having lived in a small town and in the capital city of my country, I had far, far greater romantic success in the former. Socially, in terms of friendships etc. it was also a whole lot easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 01:52 PM
1

What do they believe? What are your favourite examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:34 PM
1

What are your favourite top 5 evo-psych claims?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:28 PM
3

What? No. In polish. About Poland. In press articles discussing the economic crisis. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 01:17 AM
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But the men looking to be provided for and the "my money" men are gutturally repulsive to me. This is exactly my point. Rich men don't seem to have that reservation
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 12:17 AM
2

The data I saw was specifically about Poland, but a quick googling of the terms "educated men shortage/deficit" shows a bunch of results. I've also heard stuff like that anecdotally.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 12:16 AM
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That is certainly cool of you, but the majority of high-earner/highly-educated women don't seem to think the way you do. It's even pointed to as a possible reason for the sharper birthrates fall among the educated women - they can't find enough high-earning / educated men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 11:15 PM
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I don't know whether I disagree with them. I'm only pointing out that it would be very surprising to find out that the complex net of human psychology composed of thousands of possible behaviours just so happens to come into a planetary alignment once every few millennia and it looks exactly like an American family from a sitcom which even more baffingly just happens to be what the usual American evo-psycher envisions as "the good 'ole times of my ma and pa"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 11:09 PM
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The problem with evo psych is that it's unfalsifiable and usually just a tool to weave fantasy tales aimed at propping up the status quo - which for some weird reason almost universally seems to be the life of a upper-middle class family in the USA in the 1950's
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 10:34 PM
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Notice you did a funny shift there. You're pointing out that it would depend on a range of factors, including whether the approachee thinks the approach was exciting or tedious or whether it gets old Which is exactly what I am saying and the opposite of what you were saying. Yes, "creep" is an insult towards an uninteresting, unexciting, boring approacher. That's my point. Meanwhile, women (and you, a second ago) try to claim they use the word to denote a sexually deviant or violent person, some…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 05:04 PM
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It was the latter and you've illustrated my point perfectly. If a woman approached a guy in the library and said "hey, I noticed you've been browsing my favourite author, would you like to maybe get a coffee in the library café together sometime and maybe talk about the books?" - is she a... oh, lord... a CREEP? Or is that like a wholesome, kind way to try and meet someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 04:24 PM
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No, I don't accept pretty much anything you wrote. I have a lot of female friends and colleagues, and I've been an eye witness to multiple times someone tried to respectfully ask out a friend of mine. Unless those men were attractive, they were always called "creeps" afterwards. Yes, I know what the word "creep" is supposed to mean, and it's not "a man I despise and consider a loser". But women use it that way. Or as a slur against shy/autistic/anxious men. Or as a slur against older men. It's t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 03:41 PM
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Having been approached by gay men and asked for a number/date - honestly it was amazing. I said "no thanks" because I'm straight, but it made my day each time
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 10:40 AM
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"Creep shaming" is a deliberate tactic and a part of a wider trend of demonising male sexuality as somehow inherently violent, disgusting and predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 10:36 AM
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No, not really. Everyone's free to stare at my shape too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:26 PM
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That's the default. Not a gender thing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:02 PM
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When I haven’t said anything sexual, I’m not being sexual. How does looking fit into that framework. What distinguishes "sexual looking" from "chaste looking"? makes me think you’ve probably been spoken to and gotten negative feedback A swing and a miss. And then there are guys like you, who just want to act like any attractive woman just exists as a means to an end, and her only place in the world is to be aesthetically pleasing to you. And then you get on Reddit and bitch about how women are s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:52 PM
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And no, I’m not being lecherous because I’m not being sexual. Why not? Who determines that? Because in the context of "ogling", I take it, it's purely dependent on the feelings of the oglee, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:29 PM
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It’s very easy…. If you’re making people uncomfortable, you’re being lecherous That's exactly what I said. It's fully subjective. You're making me uncomfortable right now. Are you lecherous?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:41 PM
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case in point
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:39 PM
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But men can't see it and women have no reason to explain it. Now isn't that a convenient combo
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 01:48 PM
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I think it's kinda like the "respect issue" where older people will sometimes tell you "if you don't respect me I won't respect you". Which sounds fair and all, until you realize the first "respect" means "worship" and the second "treat like a human being"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 01:47 PM
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Yes, because a "lacherous manner" is a completely objective concept. We all know what this garbage means. It's like the word "creep". It's whomever a woman doesn't like. Simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 01:32 PM
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I do, it's whether the speaker approves of it or not. It's a dysphemism
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 01:05 PM
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I'm attracted to every attractive person because I can't help it and that's literally how attraction works. I'm gonna look at (normal, non-emotional word for "ogle") every human that I interact with. I've had my job for quite a while, thanks for asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 12:40 PM
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Wait, people should be discriminated against and have their livelihoods taken away for... being attracted to other adults? That's a vile take
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:43 AM
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What you wrote has nothing to do with the question being asked. Yes men can put it in any vagina for few seconds and climax with no consequence I wish lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:40 AM
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100% agree. For anyone interested in the PR side of the RP, I think it's worth noticing how many situations and interactions talked about in female spaces are re-framed in terms of "entitlement" as a strategy of character sabotage. Go on the twoX sub and you'l quickly notice the pattern: A man approached me for directions and I told him to fuck off -> how dare men think they're entitled to our time?! I'm a manager and I purposefully act cold and unhelping towards my male employees -> how dare me…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 03:46 PM
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The issue here is that the way we describe human behaviour is inherently vague and contingent on framing. It's kinda the same issue that plagues subs like AITA and such. A girl snooping in her partner's phone is either: "A cautious, prudent woman who wanted to confirm the trust she has in her partner" and a "Insecure, neurotic woman who spied on her unsuspecting boyfriend" depending on who you ask. It's all in the framing. So yeah, when OP says "women want a man who's confident and gets stuff do…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 05:42 PM
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You can go on any female centric sub and present those "common sense" ideas, and you'll see how popular they are
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 04:26 PM
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I think it doesn't. I know a bunch of dudes in a band (hip hop group) who made it big. We went to school together. Complete losers before. Legit all four of them were virgins in their 20s. They're famous now. They organize orgies on a weekly basis. All are in relationships with their old crushes who called them to basically propose after rejecting them before. You know what never changed? Their personalities. They're the same dudes, maybe a little more full of themselves and high more often
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:49 PM
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Hi, great happy LTR here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 05:25 PM
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Obviously, because women cannot be wrong or malicious, by definition.
/r/ExRedPill10/12/22 12:25 AM
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Then theres the woman that pretended to be a man she spiraled into depression and sadly deleted herself because of the treatment she received from women. Wait, do you have a link on that? This sounds insane
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 08:46 PM
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That kinda depends on your framing. While I know that, for men especially, having sex with many people is a status symbol and an ego boost, is it intrinsically that good? Realistically, if I chose to be promiscuous, as a hetero dude, I'd have probably like 10 partners a year at best. That's 10 one night stands or like a FWB sex every weekend. None guaranteed to be good. Being in a relationship is everyday sex with a partner who actually knows what I like. Not yo mention lower cost of dates, low …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 08:25 AM
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Normally it's a type of a rodent. I checked the infamous urban dictionary for a slang definition and it says "a woman with chubby cheeks". Is english your first language?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:43 PM
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That's gibberish
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:26 PM
2

...hamsters?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 04:56 PM
2

Honestly, I generally feel like the traditional notion of status is dissolving with globalization and inter-connectedness. I know some random niche Twitch streamers from across the World and I probably wouldn't recognize the top 5th richest person in my country or the top 3rd artist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 04:48 PM
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You're the only one seething. Literally just a "no, you". Good job. As a woman, I am privy to far more conversations You don't know that. The fact remains, if you are afraid of coming off creepy I'm not. I told you this twice. You're either bad faith or impaired, and I'm done wasting time either way. Based on your "superior knowledge" stance against actual women Woman. about how we do and do not want to be approached I absolutely don't care. I wouldn't approach you if I was paid to do it.
/r/ExRedPill03/12/22 09:55 PM
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No, I don't approach people romantically. It's mainly based on my conversations with female friends my age or below, and as a point of comparison, with my family and friends over 40. You could've just asked, instead of acting like a seething asshole
/r/ExRedPill03/12/22 09:02 PM
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If you are perceived as creepy so much that you think it's "typical" I'm not. Again, practice your elementary reading skills. Mindlessly repeating that same veiled insult will get you nowhere.
/r/ExRedPill03/12/22 08:48 AM
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Why are you creeps so confused? Pathetic insult. It is still acceptable to ask people out in public Less acceptable than it used to be. but what gets you labelled as a creep is asking or approaching cold Yes, if you are a man. Women are exempt from this. Which is why, again, it's harder to do nowadays. If you think your normal behaviour is constantly being judged as creepy I don't and I never said so. It's time to work on your reading skills
/r/ExRedPill02/12/22 08:51 PM
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Absolutely don't go expecting sex or even any kind of romance. Just go and try for you both to have fun while making her comfortable. That's literally it. Do not expect or plan anything more.
/r/ExRedPill02/12/22 02:41 PM
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At least from the stories of my parents etc., it used to be much more acceptable to ask someone out on the street, in a café, at work. Nowadays it'll most likely get you labeled as a creep and in the case of the workplace, in trouble with HR
/r/ExRedPill02/12/22 02:33 PM
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It really is. I think this analogy explains the psychology behind most of the incel/-pill movements
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 04:15 PM
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no, a man's league is just less based on physical appearance. other factors such as personality, wealth, status, can affect it positively or negatively I agree, but what does it have to do with my opinion? ironically you're the one projecting, projecting the male's disproportionately visually oriented preferences onto women Disproportionately compared to what? In my straight male mind, being visually oriented is as straight forward as it gets, while I cannot fathom caring about whether someone's…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 10:01 AM
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They share the financial consequences if the baby is born. Keep in mind, "if the baby is born" isn't a lottery draw or a random act of nature. It's 100% her choice. It shoul be: "if she chooses to burdenthem both with financial consequences"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 07:50 PM
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With that assumption, the advice to only approach women in your league is either completely useless or requires clairvoyance to be applied
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 06:07 PM
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The sheer idea of "your league" is based on a faulty assumption (projection) that heterosexual women are generally attracted to most men. This is wrong, they're not. To an average woman, an average man is far below average attractivenes. While this may seem absurd and unintuitive to a heterosexual male, it's a pivotal fact in understanding the dynamic
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 06:05 PM
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Ok, but I'm stumped by the ”hedonistic pleasure seeker" part. I'm highly unambitious. I'm content with my work, my family and my life. I think it makes me less of a "pleasure seeker", if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 08:50 PM
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How do you make a link between having ambition and not being a pleasure seeker? I'd probably say the opposite, being highly ambitious betrays some kind of an insatiable hunger for gratification
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 05:14 PM
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Then something like 90% of people have chosen the wrong profession
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 05:12 PM
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Hi, you can talk to me. I'm fully ok with that. The thought of being some big business shark or a famous person just doesn't elicit any emotion in me. Same with being praised for my work, or getting promoted and such. Sure, more money would be nice, but other than that, I do not care
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 05:12 PM
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I disagree. I'm as non-ambitious as they come, but I work out daily and look pretty good despite my small frame. I just like lifting weights to music and eating a lot, it doesn't take a Wolf of WallStreet to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 05:07 PM
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I'm a non-ambitious man. At least not in the way that attracts an average woman. I don't care for a car or a bigger appartment, I don't wear designer clothes, I don't strive for some official recognition for the work I do or a fancy title next to my name. Good news is, there are some women who don't care. I'm dating one right now, it's been a few years now. Bad news, at least in my experience, is that such women are incredibly rare. I had women express literal disgust at me being content with my…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 05:02 PM
1

Do you know what "trolling" means?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 04:56 PM
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I am not?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 04:57 PM
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Once someone shouts at you, loses control of their actions on drugs, threatens violence to anyone or assaults anyone, end the relationship and never contact them again. Just applying this insanely simple rule would almost eliminate domestic violence if everyone did this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 04:48 PM
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It's "wrong", because male sexuality is inherently predatory, creepy and wrong. This answer isn't true, but it's the backbone of the view you're asking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:47 AM
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Maybe we should separate needs into two categories. One for needs that will kill you with deprivation and one for psychological ones lol Yeah, and that separation is already there, in the word "psychological". Whenever someone whips out that stupid "it's not a need unless it can kill you" talking point, I ask them what they think are top 3 psychological needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:24 AM
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What are your top 3 favourite psychological needs?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 08:02 AM
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The issue isn’t whether sex is a need or not. It is pretty pivotal. Go on twoX or any other such sub, and post "sex is a need", and look what happens
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 08:01 AM
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I mean, are you not human? Have you no experience eating things? The answer is all of the above, with increasing degrees of certainty
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 05:52 PM
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I'm sorry, but your first paragraph is incomprehensible to me. Your second paragraph (once again, excluding the purposefully negative choice of words) is exactly my point. That's how you find out whether you're compatible with someone sexually - by having sex with them! Simple as. Since it's not pathological in any medical, psychiatric or psychological sense, I assume you use the word "pathological" as a smarter sounding and more percussive version of "me no likey". Which is fine, you don't need…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 01:33 PM
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So you think of yourself as some sort of a judge assesing others how good they are at sex rather than seeing it as two people relating to eachother with their peculiar quirks and all That's probably the weakest attempt at malicious re-framing I've ever seen. Firstly, if you drop the psychopathic wording, then you basically asked me whether I think I can assess whether I enjoy having sex with someone. Like... yes? I have things I sexually like, and I'll be looking for those in a partner. That's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 12:38 PM
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No, your analogy is nonsense. Hungry is a feeling, you either feel it or you don't. It would be analogous to say "having sex to find out if you're horny is absurd". Meanwhile, eating something to find out if you like it, especially if you're signing up for a catering service of only that one thing for your entire life, is a wise move. If you can't estimate someone's compatibility based on seeing their face, hearing them laugh, watching them move through everyday life with you and finding that li…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 11:03 AM
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why are we not seeing economically stable women dropping everything and becoming prostitutes Aren't we seeing them becoming adult performers?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 04:44 PM
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Look, I'm not saying this is a silver bullet sollution, especially if someone has mental health issues. I have some of my own, and I won't bullshit you and tell you that I can poker face my way through a full blown dissociative panic attack with my hands shaking like I'm having a seizure and my airways constricting to choking levels. I can't and it sucks. I'm glad you got your anxiety under control and I think everyone should concentrate on mitigating mental health issues first, and on self-help…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 01:57 PM
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No one chooses to be shy, akward, funny, outgoing or extroverted. I'll disagree with you here. I'm shy, awkward and highly introverted. Those are the feelings I feel in regards to social interaction. However, I'm very outgoing and outwardly confident. Those are the actions I choose to take in social interactions, because know that sadly those behaviours are gonna benefit me in life more. You cannot force yourself to feel confident, but you absolutely can force yourself to act confident
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 12:53 PM
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talking about the positive things done invalidates said acts That's a very silly claim
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:59 PM
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I work in social services, volunteered at a legal helpline, I try to help pretty much everyone who needs casual stranger-help (as you said, elderly, animals, kids etc.). But all that stuff is pretty much incidental. Most of all, I try to actively make lives of people around me better. I invited two colleagues to hang out tomorrow, after noticing they're spending their weekends alone and seem more depressed lately. I try to uplift others at my workplace indirectly and point out to my boss wheneve…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:56 PM
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Same. I don't know how common it is, but I've never had any good effect from it , and I've tried it a bunch of times
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:30 PM
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Alcohol never gave me any of the "good" effects, no courage, no ego boost, anything like that. After trying it a couple dozens of times in my teens I never tried it in any significant dose again. Ten years later I drink about 3 beers a year. I don't feel like I've been hampered in my social or sexual success (modest as it's been) by not drinking alcohol. Honestly, up until reading your post, I've never even thought about it as a factor in my dating/romantic life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:27 PM
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Doesn't that make those men "free prostitutes" as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 11:56 AM
9

Have you ever thought that maybe... different people are posting those differing opinions?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 04:40 PM
1

Would you say you're making a sort of MGTOW/black-pill-lite sorta argument then?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 02:56 PM
1

Your whole assesment seems to not be "the pros vs cons of porn" but more like "the pros vs cons of men watching porn while abstaining from interacting with women". And that's some tiny majority of people tbh. Most men watch porn casually in the evenings and jerk off for a few minutes and that's it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 02:42 PM
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Basically the kind of guy that a lot of guys in the manosphere tell women to go for if they want a loyal, loving partner. I mean yeah, a guy like that can cheat on you, a friendly granny from the house over might poison your children and you might choke on a grape and die after abusing heroine for decades. It's not a guarantee, nothing in life is. But I bet you'd still say it's safer to eat grapes with a friendly granny than slam heroin with a local dealer. Similarily, even if the latter is "suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:53 PM
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No. It's just that the non-attractive women get treated like men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 09:28 PM
0

I don't think lying is morally bad by itself. Lying that causes harm is, but otherwise, no
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 05:50 AM
2

Who are those examiners and how do they determine that? What is your source for any of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 09:56 PM
6

Choking someone absolutely leaves marks. Source: years of bjj
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 09:31 PM
2

What. No, I'm not "denying his suffering". I'm saying it's inapplicable to the vast majority of men, since they already spend every day of their lives not getting personal attention and artistic renown.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 10:58 AM
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Do you think most (non-rockstar) men have their feelings and goals or artistic achievements affirmed/encouraged by strangers? I mean, nobody cares about me either way, if they could not care and appreciate my ass it would be nice in contrast.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 09:45 PM
2

Just selecting for sex and hotness seems de humanising to me Why? You're boiling someone down to if you want to f*ck them by looking at them and that's it? Yes. If I'm looking to talk to someone, I won't say to them: "sorry, you don't have a degree, I cannot talk to you" or "sorry, you're too poor, I won't talk to you". This would make me a massive piece of shit who sees humans as some show ponies that need to check arbitrary boxes in order to be "worthy" of my time. However, if someone is a bad…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 04:11 PM
4

I've been hit on by gay dudes and it was an amazing compliment
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 04:04 PM
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Even if I was the most attractive man in the world, I cannot fathom rejecting a woman for not having a car or not being willing to fight for me, or not having a career. It just sounds... dehumanizing. Like these things have nothing to do with sex. Hotness I get, that's kinda needed. But all these other things are just bizarre
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:37 PM
1

Having sex with adults is pedophilia?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:38 PM
1

Dating apps are garbage for most men, I agree. Out of all the things I probably had the most results from the cold approaching, including one relationship and like 4 long time friendships. Also it made it far easier for me to act like I'm a master goddamn car salesman whenever I'm on some networking events at work. So over all that was a good time investment. I disagree with you on that last point. Depending on the friend group, you might simply not have enough people for that. For instance, des…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:05 PM
1

This month? None, my girlfriend would be furious. But during my years-long loneliness I'd say it kinda depends on what you mean. Approaching a total stranger at uni/library/bar etc - probably about 3 a week on average. Asking out a work/uni/hobby colleague - about 1 or 2 a month as not to make things too weird within my friend group
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 01:54 PM
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I've yet to see a guy who's fit, has a career, socially adept, emotionally mature struggle with women. Hi
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 12:44 PM
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Literally the same as the woman. Being a loving partner with all that comes with that. If someone legitimately asks you that question on a date, you should thank them for the date, pay your bill and leave to never see them again. Humans aren't show ponies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 12:38 PM
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No, because it's not a fight. It's a cooperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 12:31 PM
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Isn't that just FOMO? I think all media gives people FOMO, maybe save for horror movies or sth
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 12:27 PM
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There's no good evidence to determine that. There is evidence that there is a corellation between being addicted to porn and having some changes in the brain. That's all
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 12:23 PM
4

I didn't get much in that regard honestly, but I didn't interact much past checking whether they weren't bots and were willing to meet. It was an experiment I did with a female friend and I wasn't invested enough to roleplay a woman for an extended period of time
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:56 PM
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I met mine at work. Since that (6 years ago) I've never again worked with another woman in my age bracket. So I couldn't even give that advice to myself
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:43 PM
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Also, would men be willing to surrender other advantages over women like?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:40 PM
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I did this once, I got hundreds of matches while exhibiting the initiative and intellect of a literal houseplant. My conclusion is to be highly succesful in finding dates, women have to at most exhibit the initiative and intellect of a literal houseplant
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:35 PM
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Because it's obvious and exactly the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 08:13 AM
1

Those are ultra rare life circumstances
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 06:29 PM
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How many man can relistically "work on status"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 08:18 AM
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Most men are treated the same, just without the physical appearence mattering
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:20 PM
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Hi, that's me. I'm pretty fine actually, just doing my thing. Honestly, now that I graduated and have a (more than) full time job, I don't even get much time to feel lonely or anything. Just go to work, get home, cook and do chores, play some games for an hour and repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 09:47 PM
1

you mean any?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 11:42 AM
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Women have way more options for a relationship so why should they pick OP? Geez, idk, because not every single woman is a psychopath that sees other humans as products with a list of features to be compared on a spreadsheet? I never had to "spit game" or fight anyone etc. to be in any of my relationships and I never had a bad one
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 11:28 AM
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It's related to the source of income
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 11:13 AM
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What do you mean "woman gets nothing"? She gets a... partner? A relationship? Literally the same as OP gets? OP just wants to be on equal grounds as the woman he dates, not to be expected to act like a beggar. Do you think lesbians get nothing out of their relationships unless one acts like a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 11:01 AM
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What does the woman have to offer him? Do you think they women OP talks about are all CEOs with riveting hobbies?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 10:11 AM
1

Well the budget was indeed pretty tight, but my office is luckily opposed to the ruling conservative party
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 06:04 AM
1

Poland
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 05:41 AM
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If two willing people have sex, who exactly is "being used"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 05:40 AM
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If your having sex with someone at least be stand up enough to see the person as a friend or worth fighting for. I just said I have the same standard for friendship and sex. If someone thinks they're gonna make some kind of a contest for me to win their favor, that's a massive red flag. You just admitted that sex isn’t important enough to fight for Of course not. If I want to have sex with someone and they do too, that's when it happens. Not because I "fought for it". therefore your saying that …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 09:58 PM
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If there is a constant legal discrimination, then yes. It's kinda like with insurance. I'm paying for insurance because *in case* my house burns down someone will be obligated to help me with that. Being in the constant state of pending obligation is in itself an obligation that's put upon someone. The difference here is my insurance company freely agreed to take this risk upon itself. I never agreed to take on the risk of being sent to war just because I have a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 07:59 PM
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If men are conscripted I’m fully for women Also being conscripted. Cool, so am I. And if women are not conscripted, men should get compensation for being discriminated against by the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 07:43 PM
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Sure, you can reframe anything like that. But what is actually the goal? People complain about draft, an obvious instance of blatant gender discrimination and you... what, pull out a completely different topic? I was comparing it to the fact that women risk their lives to maintain the population levels but no one’s arguing that women should get more rights than men for it. Wtf are you on about? No, they should not get any special right, because they're not given any obligation. Government isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 07:31 PM
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But I don't wanna compare unrelated subjects that way. I don't care whether the outdated road width and curvature standards in the US cause even more deaths, even if it truly does. This post is about the sexist inequality in case of war. Pregnancy doesn't have shit to do with that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 07:06 PM
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thinking I’m dumb for not leaving If you've been hit by someone and you legit cannot escape, you're not in a relationship anymore, you're being kidnapped and should do whatever is needed to survive and flee. If you've been hit and you chose to stay because "you can fix him" or "but he brought flowers after" or "he didn't mean it", yeah, I think you're dumb. And for your weird incel comment, I have a gf. Funnily enough we talked about this subject a few weeks ago and I told her if I ever get a tu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 04:48 PM
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My friend died to the semi-draft (forced to stay in the militarized zone because of his sex) a few months ago. Just because he was born a man. I don't give a shit about your imaginary examples
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:51 PM
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No, it was a country-wide legal service.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:45 PM
1

I'm sorry, but your comment is incomprehensible to me
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:36 PM
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I don't give a shit about the 70s. We're talking about right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:23 PM
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Where in the world are you forced by the state to become pregnant?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:06 PM
1

One summer I worked as security in a clothing store. We didn't get a single theft that summer, but I still got paid. I was paid for being available in case of theft. I was putting myself at risk, and even if I that risk never happened, it was worth something. I don't get what's so hard to understand for you here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 02:56 PM
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Where exactly have I ever claimed that "abuse only occurs in certain classes or situations"? No, we had clients from all classes and backgrounds. I'm saying that abuse follows patterns, regardless of your class or whatever. And one of the patterns I've seen is victims putting up with blatant abuse for years or decades and ignoring thousands of red flags. Literally just a simple rule of "if someone hits you, break up" would've saved hundrends of women I talked to from years of suffering. And it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 02:37 PM
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No, OP want's some compensation for being considered a disposable cannon-fodder and having to drop everything and die if specific circumstances arise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 02:32 PM
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I'm not talking about the ones that want. I'm talking about being forced. If you're doscriminated against and have less rights just because of your sex, you should at least be compensated for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 01:58 PM
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Men are forced to stay in an invaded country, correct? Women are not forced to stay in this invaded country, correct? Men had their basic right taken away on the sole basis of their sex, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 01:57 PM
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Rather than trying to get a leg up over women simply for signing up for the draft why don’t you argue to allow women into these roles and sign up for the draft. I do both
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 01:46 PM
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No, in Ukraine, during the ongoing war. But keep playing word games while people suffer because of the way they were born
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 01:42 PM
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No, I wish it wouldn't be so. My family is trapped there. It fucking sucks that people are treated like pieces of meat because they happened to be born with the wrong chromosomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 01:35 PM
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You seem to be looking to make life harder on women so we’re forced to be under mens control again. Wtf are you talking about? No. I'm for full gender equality. I think no law should put an extra obligation on a citizen purely because of their gender/sex. Same goes for race, ethnicity, orientation etc. You are not better than anyone just because of your genitals. You shouldn't get any extra treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 01:20 PM
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Well most middle class people aren’t smoking crack Sure, they're drinking chianti and doing columbian coke and then beating their wife on a weekly basis. I'm not talking about the aesthetics of abuse, but about it's mechanism. And in reality it almost never is just an out of the blue sudden fit of rage that your completely normal partner falls into after a decade long marriage. It's usually a sea of red flags, thousands of acts of abuse so laughably blatant that a cartoon villain would find them…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 01:16 PM
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If some men want sex yet are unwilling to even work or fight for it.. nor do they respect women, what makes them think they are entitled to it? Sex is a voluntary activity between willing participants. I don't work or fight for sex the same way I don't work or fight for friendship. If someone required me to perform labour or compete with other's to "win" sex/friendship from them, they're the type of person I wouldn't like to touch with a ten foot pole
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 01:09 PM
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You are so misinformed it's not even funny. Men are prohibited by law from escaping Ukraine. Women are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 01:03 PM
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Is there a class of people who are exempt from taxes just based on their body characteristics?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 01:00 PM
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so... they haven't, with small exceptions
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:56 PM
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Were there forced to be there? Could they escape?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:55 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:54 PM
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I can be literally sent to my death in the event of war with no decision. I am the property here, as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:53 PM
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Yes, because none of that is mandated by the state. You don't wanna become a nurse and have children or whatever? Just don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:51 PM
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Since when is pregnancy forced by the state in the event of war?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:48 PM
1

But if someone is literally just abused once and then leaves (as one obviously should), then it isn't much of an abusive relationship, right? And while your framing makes it impossible to determine the percentage, I don't think it's a common scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:40 PM
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I've worked in social services (legal counseling) for a few years and I can confidently say that 90% of cases of domestic abuse that landed on my desk were like: "Well he often came home drunk and sometimes on crack, and he did beat me up about once a week, and it was like that for 10 years, but how could I possibly forsee that he would try to kill me after 10 years of happy marriage?"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 09:13 AM
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Fairly simple. Any act of physical violence against anyone is an instant break-up. Any lack of self-control over substance abuse is an instant break-up. Just applying these two brain-deadly simple rules would prevent the majority of abusive relationships that women report. that's absolutely not all, but it's a very simple, easy start
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 09:08 AM
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