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| 1 | If you hate women nagging about cleanliness, just date slobs.Just hire a cleaning service. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/25 02:53 PM |
| 1 | Sexual Shame in WomenYeah, if you were SAd, your trauma is due to your body being objectified… it’s not that strange of a definition. It’s exactly the truth. If you had some SA kink and enjoyed that then you dispel the trauma and meaning from being objectified. Like gay men, you dispel the shame by abolishing all meaning behind sex and believing it carries no inherent meaning. Anyway, nothing is “wrong” with meaningless sex. Not sure why you are moralizing my words. I never implied it was immoral, wrong or bad. If y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/25 01:11 AM |
| 1 | Sexual Shame in WomenSure, but the context is feeling used presupposes objectification, like your body. Like my boat. I would feel used if I did something sentimental and a boat ride and then afterwards they acted like we have a superficial connection. But my boat is an object that I felt used for. You can’t feel unused without objectifying yourself. Gay men get around this by being entirely free of sexual shame. Gay men are probably the only type of person to not feel used because they truly treat sex as meaningles… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/25 12:31 AM |
| 1 | Why do you want to be in a relationship?The double income household is not really an option anymore if you want a luxurious lifestyle or to even retire. It's unlikely to be possible with a friend till death. Shit doing it with a spouse is hard enough and still those still fail regularly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/25 04:02 PM |
| 2 | Sexual Shame in WomenThe “giving your body away” language is always so telling of how they think of sex. It's oftentimes how women can feel about sex though. Women absolutely do regret the feeling of being "used" for sex. If there was truly no shame involved it would be of a similar psychological feeling of a bad game of golf or tennis between two people. Intimacy has meaning to the vast majority of people that disallows them to view sex as an experience between two (or more) people much like a game of tennis would … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/25 03:40 PM |
| – | DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵https://imgur.com/a/CglgdHh Hot as balls out here. Stay safe and hydrated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/25 03:32 PM |
| 2 | Can a LVM transform himself into a HVM?I think there are private club exceptions or something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/20 04:56 AM |
| 14 | How do you see the relationship futures of young millenials/Gen ZBlackpilled and jaded unless they are attractive men. For women, it’s also blackpilled as they become more laser focused on an extremely filtered curation of themselves that really only exists online as a brand image. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/20 04:02 PM |
| 1 | Why is being a former slut, pornstar, prostitute, sex worker, escort...such a dealbreaker for dating?It makes perfect sense that they believe those women are submitting to many men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/20 03:08 AM |
| 6 | Isn’t hypergamy just common sense?How does this logic make sense? You can marry someone despite desiring better. That’s like saying men don’t desire healthy weight women because they often marry overweight ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/20 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?No it’s not because I can leave. Coercion is a very specific legal definition which requires isolation. I am not pressured to fly to NY and speak lol not pressured at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 10:22 PM |
| 1 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?You keep moving the goalposts. It’s not asshole behavior to want to bang a girl and to show off her art in your studio. There’s nothing manipulative about inviting a girl to do that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 10:21 PM |
| 2 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?How so? If a woman asked me to come to NY to speak about my career and invited me to stay at her place to get laid, I wouldn’t consider it manipulation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 10:06 PM |
| 3 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?No? Why would my career be devalued? Then it’s her loss lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 10:04 PM |
| 2 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?Right, which doesn’t necessarily mean he’s an asshole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 09:47 PM |
| 0 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?I would think I ruined my chances somehow. I wouldn’t think she was an asshole if she invited me over for romance and then she rejected me. That’s how normal people date lol she is fully within her rights to change her mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 09:44 PM |
| 7 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?I never claimed they are the same. You are doing what I accused women of doing. Shaming male sexuality for what women can do freely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 09:42 PM |
| 2 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?I think he assumed she took the invite as an invite to stay at his place too. That’s not necessarily a covert contract. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 09:24 PM |
| 2 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?It’s a “sales pitch” to invite girls on my yacht too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 09:22 PM |
| 6 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?I have. I don’t think men find that asshole behavior. Women have invited me to help them with their homework with the hopes of forming a romantic bond of some kind. That doesn’t make them assholes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 09:09 PM |
| 3 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?No first or second. They were offers at the same time. If a businesswoman asked me to come to NY and have me speak about my career and invited me to stay at her place with the hopes of sleeping with me, I wouldn’t consider her an asshole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 09:06 PM |
| 6 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?How so? If a woman asked me to come to NY to speak about my career and invited me to stay at her apartment with the intent of sleeping with me, I wouldn’t think she is an asshole. Why is that woman an asshole? I would think she’s a slutty minx, but not an asshole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 09:05 PM |
| 5 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?Not to his standard. To her own admission he believed she thought that she was staying at his apartment. She misunderstood the invite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 09:02 PM |
| 2 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?Dude, you said getting someone all excited and then rescinding the offer makes you an asshole. This applies without speaking about the business aspect as you claimed the business aspect is one layer above that. We will talk about the business aspect in a little bit. One thing at a time. To your standard, a woman who offered me a blowjob and got me all excited and then rescinded the offer makes her an asshole. People withdraw consent for various reasons, some more valid than others. It doesn’t ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 09:00 PM |
| 4 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?He invited an artist to come smash and display her art. Would he still be an asshole if the girl accepted the offer, went to NY, smashed and had a great time? To your logic he would be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?Asking a woman on vacation. She gets excited. She explains how she is not interested in intimacy. Why am I continued to be obligated to take her on vacation? Of course I’m not going to take her. I’m not morally obligated to take someone on vacation even if they got all excited about it. Lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 08:53 PM |
| 8 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?How is he obligated to post her art? If I ask a girl to sing at my birthday party, I’m not obligated to have her sing lol The guy was being upfront about his desire. He invited her to stay at his house for the week with the added bonus of displaying her art. It was her misunderstanding that he thought she was staying in a hotel. If the girl displayed her art, got banged, and enjoyed her 1 week in NYC, he wouldn’t be an asshole. I don’t know why he would be just because it’s not what she wanted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 08:40 PM |
| 1 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?I think he just that by inviting her to stay at his place lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 08:27 PM |
| 2 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?What do you mean needs? What needs is she being denied? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 08:25 PM |
| 5 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?Yeah. Which leads me to believe it’s slut shaming of men in a roundabout way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 08:23 PM |
| 7 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?He is obligated to host her art and if he doesn’t he is an asshole? He has autonomy over his body and property. Yes he just wanted to fuck her. Nothing wrong with that. “Lure” her into his apartment? Do men “lure” women onto their yachts playing on her desire for luxury vacations? Why are you framing this as if women are helpless prey? It’s sexist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 08:22 PM |
| 1 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?It might be asshole behavior to them, I am trying to get at why they think this is. Even aside from the fact that I believe they are mislabeling it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?It’s possible to overuse such a term to where anyone who ever inconveniences you or harms you in any way is an asshole, which dilutes it’s meaning. Which is basically what I mean by mislabeling. So change the OP to state “why do women dilute the term.” And then you can answer it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 07:55 PM |
| 1 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?All good. I don’t think that makes you an asshole lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 07:53 PM |
| 1 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?Not claiming women are a hive mind. What do you mean by “fine?” It’s fine in the sense that it’s perfectly legal lol but not “fine” if it’s incorrect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 07:52 PM |
| 1 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?According to yourself atlas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 07:50 PM |
| 1 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?Well it’s certainly rare for people to have all the relevant information. So basically you are agreeing with me that people inviting someone somewhere with the hope of getting laid is not an asshole move. Yeah it seems that hurt feelings are the prime cause at least. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 07:44 PM |
| 2 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?Maybe you misread my hypothetical. She is the one who wants sex and invited the guy over by asking him for homework help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?How so? The idea that “men only want one thing and it’s disgusting” is mislabeling bad behavior. It’s not bad to only want sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 07:35 PM |
| 8 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?I don’t see how it is “not respecting her as an artist” to invite her to an art show and want to sleep with her. You’re acting like those things are mutually exclusive when they can coexist. I mean I want to bang many actresses who I respect as artists too. Why women think these things are separate and mutually exclusive is a mystery to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 07:34 PM |
| 0 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?Well obviously. I didn’t make the claim that only women do mislabel things. I am asking the question wrt to women only though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 07:32 PM |
| 1 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?Many things but certainly not merely only wanting sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 07:28 PM |
| 1 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?So a college girl invites a guy to her dorm to help her with her homework or to watch Netflix with the hope of sex happening. She is an asshole? I also think you have a more nuanced take but really didn’t why women mislabel these behaviors so often. Why do you think this is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 07:26 PM |
| 6 | Do women mislabel ‘asshole’ behavior?This is exactly what I’m talking about. That tweet was incredibly popular with women unironically. Of course it was ultimately mocked, but this mindset among women is fairly widespread. It ultimately does a massive disservice because it gives validity to the claim that only disgusting assholes get laid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 07:09 PM |
| 10 | Why do redpillers ignore the grimy side of getting a high N-Count?Yeah it’s not only well-known, but I haven’t seen any evidence to back the assertion that these things are ignored. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 04:58 PM |
| 2 | “Selling dreams to these girls with they guard down”Just explain to me why these women are assholes. I want to understand your opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 03:36 PM |
| 2 | “Selling dreams to these girls with they guard down”How is that asshole behavior? Lots of women haven’t been honest with me about their attraction towards me yet tried to hang out under the guise of friendship or to mentor their careers. I would never consider these girls assholes. Is it asshole behavior when a college girl asks a man to help her with her homework with the hopes of sleeping with him? Seems like pretty common behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 03:27 PM |
| 1 | The blue pill is the easiest pill to swallow because it wraps the whole world in bubble wrap but this isn't good for realistic self-improvement.Again, blackpill incels disagree with red pill. That doesn’t make them blue pill. Blue pill is the mainstream disagreement with red pill, not just any disagreement. Incels are not blue pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 03:22 PM |
| 1 | The blue pill is the easiest pill to swallow because it wraps the whole world in bubble wrap but this isn't good for realistic self-improvement.Yes, disagreeing with red pill and generally done by a mainstream view pint. Blue pill is the mainstream position. Why are you being so wordy? Blue pill is not any position that disagrees with RP. Blue pill is used to the disagreements that takes a mainstream viewpoint. Blackpill incels disagree with red pill. That doesn’t make them blue pill however. This is a massive hole in your argument. Pinkpill disagrees with red pill. That doesn’t make femcels blue pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 03:20 PM |
| 2 | [CMV] The Red Pill is literally encouraging men to become mentally ill; even if the process attracts women, it is extremely damaging to a man's psycheIt’s the only path to consistent sex. They should just bang hookers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 03:01 PM |
| 2 | The blue pill is the easiest pill to swallow because it wraps the whole world in bubble wrap but this isn't good for realistic self-improvement.“Generally by agreeing with societies mainstream view of these matters” It literally says it right there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 03:00 PM |
| 2 | The blue pill is the easiest pill to swallow because it wraps the whole world in bubble wrap but this isn't good for realistic self-improvement.No I’m not | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 02:25 PM |
| 5 | “Selling dreams to these girls with they guard down”How is this asshole behavior? If you were into him and he did that exact same thing, you wouldn’t consider it asshole behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 02:25 PM |
| 6 | [CMV] The Red Pill is literally encouraging men to become mentally ill; even if the process attracts women, it is extremely damaging to a man's psycheMen would have far fewer relationships if they could have sex more regularly with different people. All you have to do is look at the gay male dating scene to get a taste of what that would look like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 02:22 PM |
| 2 | The blue pill is the easiest pill to swallow because it wraps the whole world in bubble wrap but this isn't good for realistic self-improvement.It’s not useless to debate mainstream politically correct thinking though. It’s actively used by people on ppd to mean this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 03:35 AM |
| 4 | “Selling dreams to these girls with they guard down”Yeah she is unfortunately very emotionally invested in men not winning and it’s clouding her judgement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/20 01:47 AM |
| 2 | “Selling dreams to these girls with they guard down”I see your logic and it would again might even be ideal. I just don’t think that’s how people always operate. A waiter job is a dime a dozen. You can easily find another one. Being rejected at Goldman after they headhunted you (lead you on) would be worse for me. It would be like your one meal ticket to a rich life being taken away after they lead you to believe otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 09:56 PM |
| 1 | “Selling dreams to these girls with they guard down”Fair | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 09:43 PM |
| 1 | “Selling dreams to these girls with they guard down”To be clear, I don’t think it’s naivety motivating these types of bloops. More like just world wishful thinking that being a bad person won’t work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 09:40 PM |
| 3 | “Selling dreams to these girls with they guard down”I mean that’s ideal, but doesn’t mean she will feel less upset. Being rejected at Goldman might feel worse than being rejected for a waitress job. Her one chance at a dreamy life might have been dashed. That just carries the chance of it being more devastating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 09:36 PM |
| 1 | “Selling dreams to these girls with they guard down”I know that, hence the complexity of answers of the linked OP. It’s not unreasonable to assume that he believes TRP is manipulation tactics, just like nearly all bloops. I’m not sure how one could be an unabashed (1) that TRP never works. It really doesn’t make sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 09:27 PM |
| 1 | “Selling dreams to these girls with they guard down”I agree with your argument that bloops are more concerned about the moral wrongness and the ones that believe it doesn’t work, full stop, are a minority. I can’t be sure to know EXACTLY what he meant or was thinking, true. I can only use the same thought process that bloops use about the “moral wrongness” aspect of the lying and manipulation tactics advised, which I don’t think is unreasonable to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 09:21 PM |
| 4 | “Selling dreams to these girls with they guard down”Well maybe don’t. It ruins an otherwise interesting topic. Why wouldn’t it be worse if chad does it? Why would a woman care less about chad? One would think that she would be even more upset that a guy she was supremely attracted to lied to her, used her and wasted her time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 09:18 PM |
| 1 | “Selling dreams to these girls with they guard down”He dropped the convo after I asked him about all the manipulation tactics. Still, he claimed he was an UNABASHED (1), meaning TRP tactics don’t work, full stop. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 09:15 PM |
| 1 | “Selling dreams to these girls with they guard down”The OP is about all TRP tactics. I used dread as one example and followed up asking him about other manipulation tactics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 09:12 PM |
| 2 | “Selling dreams to these girls with they guard down”He said that those manipulation tactics don’t work. What do you mean? I do think dangling the carrot to maintain plates is a TRP tactic. I again, don’t believe it’s explicitly lying, it is certainly leading her to believe false hopes and dreams though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 09:09 PM |
| 2 | “Selling dreams to these girls with they guard down”Can you not read? I never said it doesn’t happen. In fact I said the complete opposite. Maybe you’re a little too emotional about the OP to have a productive discussion. Chads absolutely dangle the possibility of a relationship to maintain plates. Not sure what planet you are on but your revenge fantasy that it’s merely low value men is not correct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 09:05 PM |
| 6 | “Selling dreams to these girls with they guard down”This seems to be a revenge fantasy of yours. I’ve known many chads to dangle the carrot to keep women around. I’m not denying that low value people never lie, but to say that this dynamic is only reflective of low value dudes is just incorrect from my observations and experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 08:48 PM |
| 1 | “Selling dreams to these girls with they guard down”I used dread simply as an example. That user was a (1), who believed TRP as a whole doesn’t work, full stop. I also never claimed that most bloops believed this. I said “some.” I don’t believe it’s explicitly lying, although I do believe that TRP advises men to sell dreams to maintain plates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 08:42 PM |
| 1 | “Selling dreams to these girls with they guard down”Yeah I’ve said things in the moment that I have later realized I didn’t really mean or changed my mind about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 08:29 PM |
| 2 | “Selling dreams to these girls with they guard down”https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/8jux2b/q4bp_where_do_you_fit_in_the_hierarchy_of_rp/dz2o0og/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Usually looks something like this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 08:08 PM |
| 1 | “Selling dreams to these girls with they guard down”Huh? Those things aren’t mutually exclusive. Girls can throw you IOIs and you can sell them hopes and dreams lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 08:04 PM |
| 1 | “Selling dreams to these girls with they guard down”Thanks for the insight. Interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 08:03 PM |
| 1 | “Selling dreams to these girls with they guard down”There have been a few bloops here over the years who have claimed RP doesn’t work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 08:02 PM |
| 2 | “Selling dreams to these girls with they guard down”I don’t want to say the banned C word but this response seems to be the C word. I’ve known Chads to dangle the carrot. This idea that it’s because they weren’t hot or interesting enough seems pure revenge fantasy to me. I’m not saying it’s never used by otherwise unattractive dudes to get laid, but I think it’s far more commonly used by attractive guys to keep women around, honestly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 07:47 PM |
| 2 | “Selling dreams to these girls with they guard down”I am hard pressed to find a woman who has not had this happen to her. I’m not sure what constitutes ubiquitous to you, but men selling women false hopes to continue hooking up with them seems to be everywhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 07:43 PM |
| 3 | Do you even think it's possible for the average guy to become hot enough to be "CHAD"?It’s the blackpill women that decided to show up too lol I think the rise in FDS and other similar subs have given rise to their voice and it just kinda overflows here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 03:58 PM |
| 0 | How can women fuck you within 3 dates or on the first date even and also get a relationship/avoid getting pumped and dumped?If you believe that sex leaves women with baggage then okay I won’t try to argue that. I think that’s your subjective opinion. I don’t think it devalues women though. You can still be cautious of who you are sleeping with without believing it leaves women with psychological baggage anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 03:28 PM |
| 2 | How can women fuck you within 3 dates or on the first date even and also get a relationship/avoid getting pumped and dumped?I know most women slut shame themselves. Shame really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 03:00 PM |
| 5 | How can women fuck you within 3 dates or on the first date even and also get a relationship/avoid getting pumped and dumped?Fuck when you want to fuck. You do it by stop caring what random dudes online think. This is like the gendered reverse of a dude asking women online permission to approach women in public. Stop seeking the approval of guys online. Stop being so neurotic about being “pumped and dumped.” If sex does not devalue a woman, then there is no value loss in being pumped and dumped. You’re giving it value when it should merely be a fun night without expectations and maybe the possibility of something more… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 02:46 PM |
| 2 | Do you even think it's possible for the average guy to become hot enough to be "CHAD"?So many blackpill women here lately. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/20 07:17 PM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (12 January 2020)Peloton | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/20 03:54 AM |
| 1 | Original survey data on perceptions of "relationship value" of average man and average womanAgreed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/20 05:45 PM |
| 3 | Original survey data on perceptions of "relationship value" of average man and average womanI think men and women have different perceptions of the “average” person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/20 04:58 PM |
| 1 | Q4All Do you believe in gender essentialism?Oh there are plenty of testimonials of trans people who have started gender reassignment HRT. I have not honestly seen any study on them that has been peer reviewed and published though regarding their behavioral changes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/20 12:37 AM |
| 2 | Q4All Do you believe in gender essentialism?(1) Aggressiveness Testosterone levels are correlated with general assertiveness and aggressiveness. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4649825/ (2) Anger Higher testosterone levels result in higher rates of mood dysfunction. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21473679 (2) Competitiveness Higher testosterone increases competitive drive. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27103058 (4) Decisiveness People with higher testosterone concentrations tend to be more active and decisive, desc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/20 12:31 AM |
| 1 | Q4All Do you believe in gender essentialism?You don’t think there is science behind sex hormones? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/20 12:29 AM |
| 2 | Q4All Do you believe in gender essentialism?Yes. Gender essentialism doesn’t state that people are beholden to their sex hormones though. Just that the sexes naturally have biological influences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 11:55 PM |
| 3 | What's wrong with the trend of men who earn equal or perhaps less money than their wives?It’s not the base that’s dangerous. It’s the job that’s more dangerous than what women choose. The base was an example of moving away from your comfort zone and accepting risk, something men are more likely to do than women which you already agreed to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 11:33 PM |
| 3 | What's wrong with the trend of men who earn equal or perhaps less money than their wives?You already said that you agreed that men choose more dangerous jobs? You really want data that men choose more dangerous jobs? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 11:24 PM |
| 3 | What's wrong with the trend of men who earn equal or perhaps less money than their wives?Didn’t really think I had to. Men die at work 10 times the rate women are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 11:00 PM |
| 4 | What's wrong with the trend of men who earn equal or perhaps less money than their wives?It’s more dangerous than the occupations women choose. How is this hard for you to understand? Why do you think men die at work 10 times the rate of women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 10:59 PM |
| 3 | What's wrong with the trend of men who earn equal or perhaps less money than their wives?Correct. Those jobs are statistically more dangerous than working other jobs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 10:34 PM |
| 5 | What's wrong with the trend of men who earn equal or perhaps less money than their wives?Never said it was more dangerous than philly. I said men are more likely to choose those more dangerous jobs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 10:34 PM |
| 4 | What's wrong with the trend of men who earn equal or perhaps less money than their wives?Never said they didn’t. I said they are less likely than men to do so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 10:23 PM |
| 2 | What's wrong with the trend of men who earn equal or perhaps less money than their wives?I never said it was. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 10:23 PM |
| 5 | What's wrong with the trend of men who earn equal or perhaps less money than their wives?You work a dangerous job on an oil rig. Or live on a military base. I think men are willing to sacrifice these comforts for more opportunity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 09:39 PM |
| 4 | What's wrong with the trend of men who earn equal or perhaps less money than their wives?Why do you think men are 10 times as more likely than women to die at work? Why are you doubting that men are accepting lower standard of living and higher risk for higher pay? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 09:12 PM |
| 6 | What's wrong with the trend of men who earn equal or perhaps less money than their wives?Of course I do. Not sure how that applies to my point about the data we have on how men are more likely to accept higher risks for better opportunities even if that means accepting a lower standard of living. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 09:01 PM |
| 1 | What's wrong with the trend of men who earn equal or perhaps less money than their wives?I don’t think it means anything in isolation. It certainly means something in the aggregate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 09:00 PM |
| 8 | What's wrong with the trend of men who earn equal or perhaps less money than their wives?Yes and just like the data shows, those women were less willing to accept a lower standard of living for better pay. You’re acting like it’s some crazy claim that women are less willing than men to accept lower standards of living. From all the data I’ve seen, men are more likely to travel, take risks, accept lower living standards for higher opportunity and greater pay. Stop acting like such a claim doesn’t match the available data. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 08:33 PM |
| 1 | What's wrong with the trend of men who earn equal or perhaps less money than their wives?The dispute being you consider such concerns irrational. Did you forget your own comment? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 08:29 PM |
| 1 | What's wrong with the trend of men who earn equal or perhaps less money than their wives?lol i think it’s more of a class issue. Those types of girls typically get into that trade in late 20s early 30s. It’s not like they have bachelors degrees. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 08:27 PM |
| 2 | Men clowning aroundAgain... That’s what you call it. That’s not what other men call it. Other men believe dating ideally should be equal. Where the entire responsibility of a fun and enjoyable time doesn’t rest on their shoulders. That’s certainly not how my job is. The entire responsibility of the company’s bottom line doesn’t rest on my shoulders and that’s how many men feel about dating. And they are not entirely wrong as you even conceded the point that it’s just “simply how it is.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 08:18 PM |
| 10 | What's wrong with the trend of men who earn equal or perhaps less money than their wives?The Becky bucks is something not really talked about. Make your own OP! I’ve seen plenty of women with deadbeat dudes with inconsistent incomes, video game addictions and substance abuse problems. The women are oftentimes nurses or vet techs too for some reason. It’s not talked about enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 08:17 PM |
| 2 | Men clowning aroundWhy are we talking in circles? You already conceded the point that men are expected to lead and entertain and that’s just the way it is. To some men, that is clowning around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 08:02 PM |
| 6 | What's wrong with the trend of men who earn equal or perhaps less money than their wives?Did you read my comment? From my observations the men in my bubble we more willing to be independent and run off even if that meant accepting a lower standard of living. I think this extends to men in lower economic statuses as well. Men seem to be more willing to enlist or travel for work for instance. The data available seems to suggest my points are accurate. Men just seem more willing to accept life without social and financial support. Take more risks, accept a lower standard of living for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 07:49 PM |
| 1 | What's wrong with the trend of men who earn equal or perhaps less money than their wives?Since when are we talking about pressuring and expecting your current partner? You’ve moved the goalposts from worrying about your future household finances to demanding, expecting and pressuring your current partner. We are speaking of women wanting men who have equal or greater financial status and being concerned they won’t find that and why you consider that concern irrational. Women have completely rational concerns about significantly out-earning her spouse. Why wouldn’t she? It means she … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 07:22 PM |
| 0 | What's wrong with the trend of men who earn equal or perhaps less money than their wives?I don’t think being concerned about your future partner’s financial status is “relying” on your partner, nor “demanding” anything from them though. I’m not sure why you think this? What incentive is there to not seek a partner with equal or greater financial status? These complaints are not made solely by women who “make a lot of money” as well. If you could afford a $400k home when you are single, why wouldn’t you want to able to afford a $800k home when you are married? Of course you would wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 07:15 PM |
| 1 | What's wrong with the trend of men who earn equal or perhaps less money than their wives?Why is worrying about household income irrational? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 07:05 PM |
| 17 | What's wrong with the trend of men who earn equal or perhaps less money than their wives?I think women are particularly averse to a lower standard of living than what they are used to. I have a friend who left a guaranteed comfortable life with his parents business to move to Alaska. He lived in a dry cabin for a bit while he was obtaining a degree and certs for his career in oil. I think this is a unique case to the extreme, but the point being that not many women are willing to accept a lower standard of living than what they are used to. I don’t think many women have a big proble… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 07:01 PM |
| 2 | Men clowning aroundI’m not talking about YOU. I’m talking about myself. You told me to next them, I am asking you why not just pump and dump them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 03:16 PM |
| 2 | Men clowning aroundWhy not pump and dump them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 02:50 PM |
| 3 | Men who come here to say they don't agree with the social contract need to stop talking and actNo “moral” behavior is completely and utterly unattractive. Women bang felons and ex felons all the time. The idea that women’s vaginas have a moral compass is wrong and some bloopy just world fallacy nonsense. What feminist was it again that claimed “your vagina isn’t woke?” Whoever it was, she was right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 07:29 AM |
| 2 | disrespect for women comes with the territoryGet help | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 06:58 AM |
| 0 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.No lol nobody is using your dumb irrelevant definition to this context. Natural meaning non man made. You silly head. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 06:46 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.I think the nature that gender essentialism is using is literally biology and science, not man made. It has to relate to gender and sex, not merely natural phenomenon like lightening you silly head. “Nature” in gender essentialism is speaking of biological nature, obviously. So again: THE NATURE (of gender) is determined by biology, not cultural. I don’t know why you are having such a hard time with this. Do you want me to call you and explain it to you? Gender essentialism is the belief that me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 06:41 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.Nature [uncountable] the way that things happen in the physical world when it is not controlled by people https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/nature The things not controlled by people (about human gender) are determined by biology rather than cultural. Stop making up your own definitions. It’s getting pathetic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 06:28 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.It’s like you can read. THE NARURE is determined by biology rather than culturally. It’s pretty obvious what nature means. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 06:11 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.NATURE, determined by biology rather than culturally. You don’t understand the meaning of words. Gender essentialism is only speaking of the NATURE of the sexes that are determined by biology. You’re making up your own definitions. THE NATURE is determined biologically rather than culturally. I cannot explain this to you any more clearly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 06:05 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.DIFFERENT NATURES, determined biologically rather than culturally. It speaks nothing of differing cultural influences. Gender essentialism only speaks of the differing natures that are biological. It doesn’t deny cultural influences at all. You’re making up your own definitions. It’s like you don’t understand how words work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 05:54 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.The one that states THE NATURE IS DETERMINED BY BIOLOGY. Behaviors that are not due to nature are not due to biology. Some behaviors are determined by culture. And yet still, the nature is still determined by biology. Gender essentialism covers both. You’re making up your own definitions | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 05:46 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.THE NATURES are determined by biology. It merely claims that the nature of sex behaviors is determined by biology. The nature of hormone behaviors are determined by biology. The nature of behaviors as a consequence of testosterone are determined by biology What is your point in making up your own definitions? The definition merely states that the NATURE of gendered behaviors are determined by biology. It doesn’t say ALL behaviors and it doesn’t state that you are determined to do those behaviors… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 05:40 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.Nobody is straying from the definitions but you. You have continually made up your own definitions. Claiming that some female behavior is determined by biology is essentialism. Biologist absolutely claim that male and female behavior is determined by biology. That’s the entire premise of send hormones and behavior. It’s not FULLY determined by biology, but it biology is still responsible for these behaviors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 05:23 AM |
| 2 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.Nobody is claiming people’s futures are determined by their biology. That is gender determinism. Sensible biologists are claiming that there are real biological influences that are responsible for women entering nursing careers. Such claims are gender essentialism, not biological determinism. You are again making up your own definitions. The natures are determined by biology. Not how any individual or you behave. You silly head. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 04:47 AM |
| 2 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.They are basic qualities of men and women, such as sex hormones that do in fact determine behavior. Why are you denying this? Why deny that sex hormones determine behavior? It’s literally not what any biologist believes. You don’t have to act on your sex hormones. They don’t determine your behavior or future. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 04:36 AM |
| 2 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.No lol they are separate concepts. Men and women have different natures. Those natures are DETERMINED by biology. Evolution. Sex hormones. Etc... these differences are determined by nature. JUST LIKE NATURE DETERMINES THE DIFFERENCES IN ALL MALE AND FEMALE PRIMATES. That doesn’t mean people are beholden to these differences. They don’t determine who you are or what you will do. You’re trying so hard to conflate the two but they are not the same. How can you argue that the differences between men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 04:19 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.Yeah... People automatically hear “men and women are naturally different” and think you are defending gender roles or that women or men should act a certain way. It’s moralizing nonsense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 03:48 AM |
| 2 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.You’re literally making up your own definition of concepts. I gave you the definition per Oxford. You’re conflating essentialism with determinism. You can continue to make up definitions to your hearts content. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 03:46 AM |
| 2 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.I refuted everything you said and your made up definitions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 03:19 AM |
| 2 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.Men and women are born with distinctive different natures that are determined biologically. Just like male white tail deer grow antlers. Just how male and female primates act differently. Just how male and female humans have different behaviors. YOU need evidence to suggest that humans have somehow escaped biology and evolution that all mammals and primates share, buddy. Name a sexually dimorphic mammal species where males and females act the exact same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 03:09 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.I disagree. It’s obvious in their rejection of the possibly that women may choose certain careers because of their nature. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 03:00 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.YOU are mistakenly using the terms interchangeably and conflating them lol Look, there is female and male nature. That fact in and of itself means there is an essential component of sex that is biological. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 02:50 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.The Oxford runs a widely respected dictionary, not page four of your paper. The idea that one is fixed by their biology is gender determinism, not essentialism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 01:54 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.Biology, not an argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 01:44 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.What about combustion makes thrust? Do you not get the idea that sexually dimorphic traits in mammals have a scientific component? Call it male-ness. You seem to be hung of on the word masculine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 01:35 AM |
| 2 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.I just gave you the Oxford University definition. Stop making up your own lol Feminists, like you said, reject the idea of different psychological natures of the sexes. “Females can only gravitate towards nursing roles” is biological determinism, not gender essentialism. I don’t know what to tell you besides that you are conflating the two and making up your own definitions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 01:31 AM |
| 2 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.I think they are all academia. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 12:54 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.Why are things falling to earth called gravity? How is that decided? Why do only make white tail deer grow antlers? Of course our ideas of complex biological and natural phenomenon are constructed. That’s how language works. There is still a natural, biological component to the ideas we have constructed. Just like there is a natural and scientific component to the theory of gravity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 12:52 AM |
| 2 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.Oxford definition: https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803095846595 The belief that males and females are born with distinctively different natures, determined biologically rather than culturally. This involves an equation of gender and sex. Feminists outright reject the idea that males and female are born with different behavioral natures. It’s the idea that there are essential aspects to gender that are biological and not cultural. The idea that human females biologi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 12:40 AM |
| 3 | Men clowning aroundI think women are in more of a position to be selective. Why should men want that? Why not just be entertaining and just pump and dump her? Why should anyone do anything you tell them to do? Do you know what makes people happy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 12:37 AM |
| 4 | Men clowning aroundYeah I see a ton of bloops like this. They ultimately end up arguing against themselves. It’s kinda funny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 12:33 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.Literal biology, a weak argument lmao The idea that gender has biological components is a very strong argument. It’s why trannies take opposite sex hormones to appear like the opposite gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 12:27 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.Only if you think testosterone is constructed. All male and female mammals look and act differently. We just happen to identity those different behaviors as masculine/feminine. There are essential aspects to what we consider gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 12:23 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.I’m not attaching testosterone to masculine. That has already happened. We consider height and strength masculine, both things associated with testosterone. Biology is therefore essential to the things we consider masculine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 12:19 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.Literal evolution is the argument lol I’m not sure what your argument is? That humans have somehow escaped evolutionary pressures that all sexual dimorphic mammals show? Sex hormones influencing behavior is gender essentialism. If you accept that the sex hormone testosterone has effects on behavior and physicality we identify as masculine, then you believe gender has essential aspects. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 12:10 AM |
| 2 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.A rejection of gender essentialism IS the current mainstream academia opinion except for biologists and neurologists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 12:03 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803095846595 The belief that males and females are born with distinctively different natures, determined biologically rather than culturally. This involves an equation of gender and sex. Why wouldn’t men and women be born with distinct different behavioral natures? Sex hormones that influence behavior is gender essentialism. It’s the currently accepted scientific consensus. Of course men and women are born with different psychologica… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 12:00 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.You’re not accurate in what BP believes. BP believes that transwomen are literally women. BP rejects gender essentialism. They reject all ideas that suggest biological components to gender. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/elugha/why_do_peope_think_women_are_these_alien_creatures/fdkbhin/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Here is a prime example of how BP people act. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 11:12 PM |
| 2 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.No. BPers truly despise gender essentialism and the idea that gender differences have a biological component. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 10:53 PM |
| 2 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.No. They are saying that gender differences themselves are constructed by societal influences. The idea of EVERYTHING is constructed by society is particularly meaningless. That’s inherent to language. Ideas are inherently constructed. That’s a useless distinction. Of course ideas are constructed. What BP is saying is that gender differences in behavior are a consequence or social influence and therefore any difference is constructed by society. It’s obvious in how they speak of gender differenc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 10:19 PM |
| 3 | disrespect for women comes with the territoryI mean they still have meaning. I know many officers who have respect for their subordinates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 10:17 PM |
| 1 | Gendered stuff discussionNo. Your comment suggested that it’s all nurture if you conclude that gender neutral environments result in NO preference for gendered toys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 10:10 PM |
| 2 | Gendered stuff discussionYes, obviously both nature and nurture play a role in toy preference. That’s my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 10:06 PM |
| 3 | disrespect for women comes with the territoryYour idea that you can’t respect your subordinates is wrong in my opinion. I disagree with your implication that captains can’t respect their enlisted soldiers. Deference is not inherent to respect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 10:03 PM |
| 3 | disrespect for women comes with the territoryWhat women consider respect does not match with your idea of how men respect other men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 10:00 PM |
| 3 | disrespect for women comes with the territoryYou can have admiration for someone you lead. You can also have admiration for someone leading you. I disagree with your assumption. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 09:57 PM |
| 7 | disrespect for women comes with the territoryOkay and what men and what women consider respectful behavior from a romantic interest is different. That’s the point. You’re not the arbiter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 09:52 PM |
| 9 | disrespect for women comes with the territoryThis is silly. Many women will be very upfront about how she wants to be treated with respect and be protected and even led. This idea that you are the arbiter or what people consider respectful behavior is just wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 09:47 PM |
| 3 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.Blue pillers certainly hold the view that gender is a social construct. How could you argue otherwise? If gender is a social construct, then that means that gender is a thing that exists because it was CONSTRUCTED by society. It’s absolutely foundational in BP belief that men and women are exactly the same except for social influences. That is inherent to it being a social construct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 09:41 PM |
| 2 | The Red Pill and nature vs nurture.It is kind of the entire point of RP. The current rhetoric surrounding gender dynamics is a claim that men and women are exactly the same, except for socialization. If gender is somehow essential to biology, even slightly, then gender is not a social construct and the entire BP point of view unravels. When you go from BP “men and women are exactly the same” then you read RP’s more reasonable approach that men and women are naturally different, of course it will seem to you that they downplay the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 09:31 PM |
| 3 | Gendered stuff discussionPrimates are attracted to gendered toys. I’ve never seen any study that suggests otherwise for humans. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 09:15 PM |
| 6 | Men clowning aroundYes I agree that the expectation on men is to peacock and clown around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 06:49 PM |
| 2 | Gendered stuff discussionEveryone can read your OP. You called some of the stuff pointless yourself. Again, it isn’t pointless if it’s important to some people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 06:39 PM |
| 2 | Gendered stuff discussionThe idea itself is not pointless. It’s not pointless for someone to want identity signifiers for their identity. If it is meaningful to them, then it isn’t pointless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 06:16 PM |
| 9 | Men clowning aroundAgain, I’m not sure why you are answering this way. Firstly, why even moralize about fairness? That’s not even the discussion. Secondly, you seem to be agreeing with the clown game argument. “That’s just the way it is” is exactly what red pill is saying. You have to play the game. So congrats I guess for making an OP critical of red pill then coming full circle and just agreeing with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 06:01 PM |
| 16 | Men clowning aroundI’m not sure why you would answer this way. Women uphold gender roles just as much as men. This also isn’t really discussion of a contest on who is more boring, men or women. It’s really just matter of fact discussion on gender roles and expectations. Women expect more of a fulfilling and well-rounded entertaining experience from a date or courtship . Men simply require women to show up. Why wouldn’t women have higher standards for a date? It doesn’t make sense for women not to. Sure, it’s nice … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 05:42 PM |
| 42 | Men clowning aroundIt’s really about how many women treat dating. Always expecting to be courted and entertained. I understand how it might feel like clown game to someone who doesn’t enjoy it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 05:19 PM |
| 17 | What is "Status"?Status is merely a position within a hierarchy. There are plenty of women who fuck pro athletes without any intention of getting gold. It’s not necessarily for the clout either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 02:04 AM |
| 1 | Differences Between Men & Women and why red pillers avoid marriage.Again, gay men naturally being gay is a perfect (moral) reason that they ought to be gay and SHOULD NOT suppress those feelings. I’m not sure why you believe otherwise. That the natural aspect of homosexuality is a perfectly valid moral reason to be gay. It would be immoral to deny that, actually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 01:11 AM |
| 1 | Differences Between Men & Women and why red pillers avoid marriage.When people write normative, they are talking about what is the norm or standard. You still don’t make sense. Why should someone NOT OUGHT to be gay if he is naturally that way despite homosexuality not being normative? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 12:53 AM |
| 1 | Differences Between Men & Women and why red pillers avoid marriage.So it’s not a debate about the validity of the reason, it’s about good or bad? You moved the goalposts from the validity of the reason to moralizing. So again, why is it INVALID for a man /woman to say: “I’m gay because it’s how I always naturally felt” ?? You clearly haven’t thought this through and it’s showing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 12:29 AM |
| 2 | Differences Between Men & Women and why red pillers avoid marriage.So again, explain to me why homosexuality being natural is not a valid reason to be gay. Seems perfectly valid to me. I don’t know why you are moving the goalposts to “should,” and “good”? Stop moralizing and it is not the argument we are having. We are debating the validity of the reason for someone being gay. “I’m gay and I believe it’s because I was naturally born like this” is a perfectly valid reason to be gay. I’m not sure why you are trying to argue otherwise. It’s big yikes sweaty oof le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 12:21 AM |
| 1 | Differences Between Men & Women and why red pillers avoid marriage.That is not what you stated. Something being natural is a perfectly valid reason to do that thing. Homosexuality being natural is a perfectly valid reason to be gay. That obviously doesn’t mean you SHOULD be gay just because it’s natural, but that wasn’t your argument. Your argument was that something natural is NOT a valid reason. Which is wrong. It is a perfectly valid reason in many cases. Explain to me how homosexuality being natural is, in itself, NOT a perfectly valid reason to be gay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 12:07 AM |
| 1 | Differences Between Men & Women and why red pillers avoid marriage.Well that would hurt themselves. My comment already addressed hurting someone (including yourself). Homosexuality being natural is a perfectly valid reason to be gay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 12:01 AM |
| 1 | Differences Between Men & Women and why red pillers avoid marriage.A reason to do that. If it’s natural and someone wants to do it, then why shouldn’t they? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/20 11:52 PM |
| 0 | Differences Between Men & Women and why red pillers avoid marriage.Why doesn’t it? If there is a perfectly natural reason for the expression of ANY sexuality, then I don’t see a reason not to engage in it ( as long as that is what you want and you’re not hurting someone etc) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/20 11:39 PM |
| 2 | The MeToo movement is all about looks, change my mind if you canArgue with poppy on this. She knows more than me. The context in which she started the movement is completely divorced from what it became. What started as a way to empower minority women to bring awareness to their abuse ultimately became everything but that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/20 09:44 PM |
| 1 | What percentage of men do you think are willing to commit rape if given the chance?I said the JUSTIFICATION wasn’t a far stretch. It’s not a stretch for an invading army to justify murder of the enemy as it does rape. Both can be out of revenge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/20 09:27 PM |
| 2 | What percentage of men do you think are willing to commit rape if given the chance?I’m not moralizing on the issue so I don’t know why you are coming from the angle of “right” or “wrong.” Some armies may consider revenge against the civilian population necessary and have indeed in past wars. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/20 09:21 PM |
| 1 | What percentage of men do you think are willing to commit rape if given the chance?Really, really. Effective armies do indeed get enjoyment from murdering the enemy. Murder can be unpleasant yet necessary, but it often is for revenge and enjoyment. That’s exactly how the Soviets acted when they sacked Berlin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/20 09:08 PM |
| 2 | The MeToo movement is all about looks, change my mind if you canYep. They’ll even defend those nations as recent acts have proven. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/20 09:03 PM |
| 3 | The MeToo movement is all about looks, change my mind if you canThe movement itself was to bring light to these issues. The ENTIRE point of the movement was to bring media coverage and awareness, which ultimately only went to pretty rich white girls. The movement became strictly for the privileged. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/20 08:39 PM |
| 3 | The MeToo movement is all about looks, change my mind if you canOkay and just before it was highjacked and centered around rich white girls 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/20 08:31 PM |
| 2 | The MeToo movement is all about looks, change my mind if you canIt is strictly about privileged people as the movement was centered around actresses. I don’t remember the metoo movement centered and started by minority women who receive disproportionately more rape and abuse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/20 08:26 PM |
| 10 | The MeToo movement is all about looks, change my mind if you canThe Metoo movement is all about rich white girl performative, self-promoting feminism. None of these bitches cared when it was Mexican housemaids being regularly raped and sexually abused. They only cared when their in-group pretty rich white UMC broads engaged in quid pro quo’s in the media industry and decided that they didn’t like their cut of the bounty post hoc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/20 08:17 PM |
| 0 | What percentage of men do you think are willing to commit rape if given the chance?Assuming he’s a soldier and is justifying murdering the enemy, it’s not some massive leap for him to justify rape of the enemy either. That’s what many invading armies believed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/20 07:38 PM |
| 1 | Red pill opinion on single motherhood issueWhy are you assuming that abortion is a no go? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/20 07:29 PM |
| 1 | What is your biggest gripe with TRP subreddit?Sure and I don’t have proof that people get stuck there and never leave. It’s just a feeling I have is all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/20 06:15 PM |
| 1 | What is your biggest gripe with TRP subreddit?Fair points | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/20 05:43 PM |
| 9 | What is your biggest gripe with TRP subreddit?I don’t like how many of them stay there for so long. It’s not supposed to be a hang out club for griping. Take what you need and leave. The sub however feeds off itself and I think many dudes end up getting stuck there instead of takin the what they need and leaving. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/20 05:26 PM |
| 0 | Do Gamer Girls have higher or lower SMV than average Girls?It’s still because she has the atheistic girl image though. I just disagree that if you took the atheistic away she would have the same amount of clout. Many of these famous streamers came to the limelight for that atheistic, not merely because they were attractive without it. The gamer girl atheistic is certainly fetishized. It’s not merely fetishizing attractive women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/20 05:23 PM |
| 3 | Do Gamer Girls have higher or lower SMV than average Girls?Eh, I think there are a lot of men who fetishize gamer girls even to the point where the atheistic has become monetized by various cam girls and streamers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/20 03:07 PM |
| 1 | The social narrative around "he took advantage of her"So I disagree. This assumes that anytime a woman regrets sex after the fact, then the man has taken advantage of her. That’s just not true. In your example, a 25 year old adult who knew the risks of smoking may start and enjoy smoking only to later regret it. The entirety of his experience was therefore not enjoyable. That STILL doesn’t mean he was taken advantage of as your logic would claim. Despite the fact that the entirety of his experience was not enjoyable, an adult taking up smoking is N… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/20 07:41 PM |
| 1 | The social narrative around "he took advantage of her"We are talking about the cultural narrative of the claim, not merely the accusation from the person themselves. The cultural narrative is often used in the third party when speaking of relationships with age differences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/20 06:42 PM |
| 1 | The social narrative around "he took advantage of her"Let’s go over what you claimed: If someone said you took advantage it means it was not mutually enjoyable. Here is your claim that it is mutually exclusive. And I disagree with your claim that they are mutually exclusive. A man can bang a girl when she is grieving over her dead father AND the sex may be mutually enjoyable. However, someone may make the case that I took advantage of her grieving. A man can bang a girl when she is drunk and the sex may be mutually enjoyable. However, someone may m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/20 06:39 PM |
| 2 | The social narrative around "he took advantage of her"It’s entirely possible to enjoy something in that moment while later regretting it. Your idea that these two things are mutually exclusive is just wrong. The claim that he took advantage of her is not solely relegated to her accusations either. Her friends may make the argument that she was taken advantage of, despite the fact that she enjoyed it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/20 06:28 PM |
| 6 | The social narrative around "he took advantage of her"Those ideas aren’t mutually exclusive. If I made a pass at a girl who was grieving after a breakup, she could consent to the sex AND enjoy it. However, it could still be argued that I took advantage of her. Ultimately, the implication of such an argument is that I took something of value from her without her receiving something of value in return. It seems obvious to me that the transactional nature of the how sex should work is implied when wome use the “took advantage of me” claim. And of cour… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/20 06:09 PM |
| 2 | Why do peope think women are these alien creatures?Source this claim | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/20 06:03 PM |
| 2 | Why do peope think women are these alien creatures?No we were not. Tribes were mostly egalitarian, not matriarchal, and they differed widely in many ways throughout the world. Why are you assuming I’m using a naturalistic fallacy? The idea that men and women naturally differ in personality is not a naturalistic fallacy. I have not ONCE applied any moralistic argument to the idea that men and women naturally differ. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/20 04:53 PM |
| 6 | Why do peope think women are these alien creatures?You have no proof that humans have escaped evolutionary programming and all evidence is to the contrary. The gender equality paradox is real. The more egalitarian a society becomes, the stronger the personality differences become between men and women. Nobody has said that you are DETERMINED by evolutionary programming. That is your second strawman. How many logical fallacies are you going to use in this discussion? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/20 04:40 PM |
| 5 | Why do peope think women are these alien creatures?There’s no naturalistic fallacy here. Nobody said anything about it HAVING to be this way or it SHOULD be this way. That is your strawman you just made. Tell me if gender differences are purely cultural, then why is it that when societies get more equal, gender differences in personality increase? You can research the gender equality paradox till your eyes bleed. You have no proof that humans have escaped any evolutionary programming. What an unscientific assertion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/20 04:33 PM |
| 11 | Why do peope think women are these alien creatures?This is exactly what I’m talking about. You keep blaming “patriarchy and shit” for men and women acting differently especially with regards to sexual dynamics. This is not supported by any research. In fact it’s the opposite. People fall into gender roles more strongly when we give them the freedom to. Literally ALL sexually dimorphic mammals act differently. You keep blaming it solely on culture which implies that humans have somehow evolutionarily escaped biological tendencies that are apparen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/20 04:19 PM |
| 6 | Why do peope think women are these alien creatures?It might seem that way for you because seems because the current approved rhetoric around gender politics is that men and women are exactly the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/20 04:09 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Going on a date with a girl is consent to dating her exclusively.This post will get removed but going on a date with a girl is consent to dating her exclusively in that moment. Sure. It’s would be weird to go on a date with a girl and bring another lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/20 02:28 AM |
| 1 | Is the wall a wall, or is it more of a hill?Nobody claimed all of them are “bad.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/20 06:38 PM |
| 6 | Unrestricted sociosexual orientation predicts women's preferences for indicators of males’ genetic ftness, physical attractiveness, and social dominance relatively more. Additionally, the likelihood of having multiple, less committed sexual partners.You’re not wrong and neither are the researchers. Despite lots of hand-wringing from feminists and an avoidance of the topic altogether, wantonly promiscuous women are typically unstable and/or have some kind of mental health issue and/or have abusive pasts. Women who engage in NSA sex lean very AWALT-y. I disagree that RP is only viable for dating promiscuous women. Many women will fuck a dude with the hopes of it turning into something more serious. In contrast, a much higher proportion of wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/20 06:34 PM |
| 1 | Do women "really" hit the wall at 30?Nobody claimed all women have sky high standards. So let’s say a woman likes tall men. The marriage rates for tall men would have to be THE EXACT SAME as any other demographic for her dating market to NOT shrink as she ages. https://www.nber.org/papers/w20402?utm_campaign=ntw&utm_medium=email&utm_source=ntw We see from the available data that taller men get married earlier than other height ranges. Hence, as she ages, her dating market will get ever smaller. The same goes for men who make higher… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/20 06:26 PM |
| 1 | Is the wall a wall, or is it more of a hill?Yes this. It’s a lot of compounding factors. The most desirable men will indeed have seemingly vanished from the dating market. At 30, the dating market starts to be filled with divorcees and leftover single people no one else wanted. When women say “where are all the good men,” they are not lying about their predicament. There are indeed less good men willing to date them. Whether they are married now themselves or they are pursuing younger women, those “good men” are seemingly gone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/20 05:00 PM |
| 2 | Women (who can) only go for ‘Chads’??I think the women most inclined to go for chads to the extreme like that are average to below average women. I also don’t really think that women really have a short-term mating strategy. I also think the men they sleep with casually are men they would entertain a relationship with and are open to the idea of actually dating. That’s just my observation of my female friends who casually date. I’m sure there are a few women out there who just love NSA and I’ve met them before, but they are certain… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/20 04:47 PM |
| 1 | Do women "really" hit the wall at 30?Just read the study? Women report never being married because there is a lack of economically attractive men. Sure, there is no wall if women don’t have standards. That’s hardly an argument for the wall not existing though because women do have standards, and they should. Just because there is always a pool of interested men, doesn’t mean that pool is desirable and static in desirability. Again, how is it possible that the pool of DESIRABLE people stays static? That only makes sense if undesirab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/20 03:21 PM |
| 2 | Do women "really" hit the wall at 30?They are swimming in many options. They are women. The only thing stopping them is their own standards, really. That’s the entire point. They are however, not swimming in desirable options. Again, women claim this themselves. See here: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/jomf.12603 How is it possible for the pool of desirable people to stay static? That would only make sense if undesirable people and desirable people got married at the EXACT same rates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/20 02:57 PM |
| 2 | Do women "really" hit the wall at 30?Okay. I think women have a much higher standard for relationship than men though. Same with casual sex. Sex and relationships are just more vulnerable and risky for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 09:33 PM |
| 2 | Do women "really" hit the wall at 30?Yes, they are typically low value women themselves. That doesn’t negate my point that the dating pool of “good men” has indeed declined. Their unreasonably high standards are besides the point. They are indeed often low value women themselves. That doesn’t stop them from seeking high value men who are ever decreasing in numbers from their dating pool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 09:25 PM |
| 3 | Do women "really" hit the wall at 30?It’s correlated. It means nothing in a vacuum. It means everything in aggregate. Simple fact of the matter is that the men who women consider “marriage material” tend to have degrees. It’s just math. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 08:57 PM |
| 5 | Do women "really" hit the wall at 30?Well sure and this is true to the extreme. If you don’t have standards, then there is no wall lol Simple fact of the matter is that women do have standards and many of those men with baggage don’t fit them. “Where have all the good men gone” assumes she has standards. It’s inherent in “good men” that she is looking specifically for high quality partners. If a woman is willing to lower her standards of what constitutes a “good man” then of course she will not be troubled in dating (to the extent … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 08:54 PM |
| 7 | Do women "really" hit the wall at 30?You have been engaging in the conversation this whole time and digging yourself an ever deeper hole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 08:46 PM |
| 1 | Do women "really" hit the wall at 30?Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 08:46 PM |
| 4 | Do women "really" hit the wall at 30?This is a conversation about your comment with regards to the wall. If this conversation is too complex for you then you can drop. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 08:42 PM |
| 2 | Do women "really" hit the wall at 30?This assumes divorced people are “desirable.” And is further irrelevant in the context of “the wall” when these women hit 30 and think “where have all the good men gone.” Those women aren’t thinking of divorcees with relationship baggage as high quality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 08:41 PM |
| 3 | Do women "really" hit the wall at 30?So you’re now just agreeing with me that you were answering using your own anecdote for a foundation to explain the aggregate dating dynamics of women, precisely like I said you were doing. Why are you arguing against yourself? What’s your point here? We are talking about your comment and how it’s not representative of “women” because now even you believe the dating scene gets harder as women age. You’re the one who essentially said “the wall doesn’t exist because my friends have no trouble dati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 08:35 PM |
| 3 | Do women "really" hit the wall at 30?The OP asked what it means for “women,” not the women in your friend group. The OP was specifically asking about women in the aggregate. If you only wanted to talk about your friend group and not making any connection with women in the aggregate, then you are not answering OP’s question... I really disagree here. I think “the wall” is primarily a function of a woman’s dating pool and not her level of attractiveness. I don’t think a woman’s sexual value plummets in her 30’s. “The wall” is merely … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 08:27 PM |
| 4 | Do women "really" hit the wall at 30?I never sought out to invalidate your comment about your personal anecdote. I said I didn’t doubt your personal anecdote. This is like the 5th time I have repeated that. I am saying your personal anecdote doesn’t say much with regards to people in the aggregate. So you agree there are a reduced number of high quality people as we age, okay. That’s my point. Not sure why it took you so long to admit that. Moving on.... So when women say “where are all the good men” it is merely an observation tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 08:14 PM |
| 4 | Do women "really" hit the wall at 30?And again; I don’t doubt your personal anecdote. That however, does not disprove the idea that the dating pool of desirable men (and women) shrinks over time. You are just arguing against math arguing otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 08:07 PM |
| 4 | Do women "really" hit the wall at 30?Because we are talking about “women,” not a particular woman on ppd. Isn’t that obvious? I never said she was wrong in her own personal anecdote. In fact, I continually said that I don’t doubt her personal anecdote. Are you okay today? Can you not read? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 08:06 PM |
| 4 | Do women "really" hit the wall at 30?We all can tell you didn’t read it lol How is it your logic that the dating pool of desirable men doesn’t shrink as we age? Do you think the dating pool of desirable men forever stays at a static % of the male population? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 08:05 PM |
| 6 | Do women "really" hit the wall at 30?Not saying it’s over for women over 30. I’m saying the dating pool of desirable men shrinks as we age. This isn’t even unreasonable. It’s just matter of fact. How could you claim otherwise? You think the dating pool of desirable men increases with age indefinitely? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 08:04 PM |
| 3 | Do women "really" hit the wall at 30?https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/jomf.12603 Clearly you didn’t read it because the study is 6 months old lol published in sept 2019. You are free to think whatever you want. Nobody is claiming you’re not free to be wrong. Disagree with math until your heart is content. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 07:59 PM |
| 11 | Do women "really" hit the wall at 30?Doesn’t really matter what YOU consider high quality. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/lifestyle/fewer-people-are-getting-married-because-theres-a-shortage-of-economicallystable-single-men-says-study-221607423.html It is WOMEN who are reporting a lack of economically attractive men, not YOU lmao. Simple fact of the matter is that they are essentially reporting a lack of educated men with stable incomes which is HIGHLY correlated to education. You are arguing against math for a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 07:49 PM |
| 6 | Do women "really" hit the wall at 30?It’s just a correlation. Nobody is saying that a degree makes you high quality by virtue of a degree. It’s just correlation. It’s just math. People with bachelors make more money, on average. People who make more money on average get married more. Hence, the pool of economically attractive men shrinks every year. It’s just math kandy. No reason to be mad at it. Like I said, I do not doubt your anecdote. But it is particularly useless when speaking of aggregate populations as you seem to be imply… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 07:38 PM |
| 10 | Do women "really" hit the wall at 30?Not sure how you don’t understand the implication honestly. If you disagree that “high quality men” have educations and stable income source(s), then that’s fine, but I think most reasonable people, unlike you apparently, believe that marriage quality men have educations and stable incomes. You are particularly dense if you can’t make the connection. It’s a leading reason why never married people are not getting married. See here: https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/FT_17.09.1… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 07:30 PM |
| 20 | Do women "really" hit the wall at 30?I don’t doubt your anecdote, but that seems mathematically untrue in the aggregate. Most people marry by a certain age, especially the men who are considered high quality. See here: https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/FT_17.09.14_Marriage_Theeducationgap_2.png You will just inherently see a lower quality dating pool as you get older. The dating pool as one gets older will be increasingly disproportionately filled with people without degrees or stable incomes. That is simply ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 06:47 PM |
| 1 | Joe Biden blames English legal traditions for campus sexual assaultNo argument from me here. I don’t think it should be any different either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 04:17 PM |
| 3 | Joe Biden blames English legal traditions for campus sexual assaultWell he’s not wrong... the presumption of innocence is an impediment to a conviction for any crime. That’s kind of the point... crimes are supposed to be hard to convict. It’s why feminists so often hate the current legal framework with regards to sexual assault proceedings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 03:44 PM |
| 2 | Debunking some of the half-truths that TRP/the manosphere promoteMarried women have kids. Of course they are less happier. It’s far more stressful for women - both physically and mentally. Women are also more neurotic than men, so you can’t accurately compare levels of happiness across genders. What makes a man indifferent has a higher chance to make a woman miserable. I would also warn that happiness is not the end all be all of existence and what constitutes a fulfilling life. Do you know who is happy? Drug addicts high on heroin. Video game addicts in fron… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 02:42 PM |
| 1 | The idea that men are more likely to marry a much younger woman leaves out one glaring fact about men's attraction to younger women.*the OP. Not accusing you of being the OP. Look at my edit above. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/20 05:16 PM |
| 1 | The idea that men are more likely to marry a much younger woman leaves out one glaring fact about men's attraction to younger women.*the OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/20 05:12 PM |
| 1 | The idea that men are more likely to marry a much younger woman leaves out one glaring fact about men's attraction to younger women.I’m not splitting hairs. I’m replying to her assertion that most people met their spouses in school. I’m not supporting any narrative counter to yours, actually. I agree with your the OP mostly. I don’t agree that most people met their spouses in school. You are assuming things unnecessarily. I am only having a discussion about her claim above. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/20 05:07 PM |
| 2 | The idea that men are more likely to marry a much younger woman leaves out one glaring fact about men's attraction to younger women.Your hunch is wrong. https://flowingdata.com/2019/03/15/shifts-in-how-couples-meet-online-takes-the-top-spot/ Even in the 1970s, primary and secondary school accounted for only 10% of how people met their spouses. It’s now around 5%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/20 04:31 PM |
| 0 | The idea that men are more likely to marry a much younger woman leaves out one glaring fact about men's attraction to younger women.Again, I am saying that I doubt it is how a majority of couples meet. The data has already been presented. It’s not even close to a majority, so her claim was inaccurate. According to the data she presented, meeting in school was responsible for only 10% of the marriages from couples marrying in the decade of 70s. In 2010s it was about 5%. So her statement that “most” marriages are from couples meeting in school isn’t even close to being accurate and has never been accurate, even when study marr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/20 04:23 PM |
| 3 | The idea that men are more likely to marry a much younger woman leaves out one glaring fact about men's attraction to younger women.Yeah I thought that. You are giving too much credit to school. Primary and secondary school are pretty low on the list. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/20 04:12 PM |
| 3 | The idea that men are more likely to marry a much younger woman leaves out one glaring fact about men's attraction to younger women.I doubt that people meeting in school is the majority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/20 04:09 PM |
| 2 | The idea that men are more likely to marry a much younger woman leaves out one glaring fact about men's attraction to younger women.I still doubt it’s the majority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/20 03:02 PM |
| 3 | The idea that men are more likely to marry a much younger woman leaves out one glaring fact about men's attraction to younger women.I still doubt majority. Show data. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/20 03:02 PM |
| 2 | The idea that men are more likely to marry a much younger woman leaves out one glaring fact about men's attraction to younger women.You think a majority of people meet their spouses in school? I’ve never seen such data. Can you source that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/20 07:20 AM |
| 4 | Those who are extremely prejudice have a hard time finding someoneStereotyping women actually helps you get laid. It’s just a math equation. The woman who is into casual sex has high disgust tolerance and low inhibitions. Risk taking and impulsive behavior are simply correlated (and maybe caused) with all these personality traits. If you want to find someone for a quick lay, what’s the sense in looking in a church rather than a club? Following your logic, treating everyone as unique individuals and looking in a church would get you laid easier than stereotypin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/20 05:46 AM |
| 2 | What do men consider to be "Masculine" and "Feminine" traits?+ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/20 11:21 PM |
| 3 | What do men consider to be "Masculine" and "Feminine" traits?“Women like status” “ThEN WHy DoNt ALL woMeN LiKe PoliTicians” Haha what a bad take there. Women like status of all kinds. Including politicians. Why would women liking status mean that ALL women would ONLY like politicians? It doesn’t imply that women are golddiggers. That is your moralizing. When women fetishize doctors, they aren’t fetishizing some hard working personality. If that’s what you think then we’ll have to agree to disagree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/20 10:33 PM |
| 3 | What do men consider to be "Masculine" and "Feminine" traits?Yes, high status does show these things. What’s your point? The fetishizing of high status careers in men are not solely do to an assumption of a hard working personality. Women don’t like hard working and smart broke homeless men lol you can’t divorce the idea of the guy’s status with his personality traits. They don’t exist in a vacuum. Your argument is silly as it is wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/20 10:23 PM |
| 3 | What do men consider to be "Masculine" and "Feminine" traits?Nobody is saying it’s a conscious decision though. It’s more like “oooo he’s a surgeon” anyway. How are you even going to claim that women don’t like powerful and influential men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/20 10:11 PM |
| 3 | What do men consider to be "Masculine" and "Feminine" traits?It’s not vague at all. It means the standing of someone within a hierarchy. Women are attracted to status. That doesn’t mean women are solely attracted to money...? It’s like you hear the claim “women are attracted to status” and all hear is “all women are golddiggers.” It’s insane. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/20 10:07 PM |
| 3 | What do men consider to be "Masculine" and "Feminine" traits?https://www.google.com/search?q=status+definiton&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS725US725&oq=status+definiton&aqs=chrome..69i57.2301j0j4&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8 the relative social, professional, or other standing of someone or something. Nobody is using that word here any different than the definition. Status is merely a relative standing. It’s you that has the odd definition. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/20 09:45 PM |
| 3 | What do men consider to be "Masculine" and "Feminine" traits?A reputation is status. Status is a position within a hierarchy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/20 09:18 PM |
| 1 | Stacy Chasing is the Logical Outcome of AWALTOh idk that’s up for debate really | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/20 09:16 PM |
| 1 | Stacy Chasing is the Logical Outcome of AWALTWhoever is most desirable to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/20 09:15 PM |
| 1 | What’s the deal with Incest? What’re some repulsed by it? Why are others going for it?Which is why I asked | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/20 12:44 AM |
| 1 | What’s the deal with Incest? What’re some repulsed by it? Why are others going for it?They are explaining the avoidance by a cause of the observation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 11:01 PM |
| 1 | What’s the deal with Incest? What’re some repulsed by it? Why are others going for it?No absolutely corrects. I don’t think observed effects explain why the taboo exists. Mice have the same avoidance tendencies to inbreeding. Do you think mice observed the effects then evolved to smell the urine of relatives to avoid inbreeding? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 10:41 PM |
| 1 | What’s the deal with Incest? What’re some repulsed by it? Why are others going for it?Yeah I think that’s a strong argument. There also might be an evolutionary reason. Either way, it really has nothing to do with the observed effects. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 10:27 PM |
| 1 | What’s the deal with Incest? What’re some repulsed by it? Why are others going for it?Not really as the people above seem to be implying that inbreeding is considered gross because of the observed genetic defects of inbreeding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 10:18 PM |
| 1 | There’s nothing inherently wrong with adult men in their 20s and 30s dating adult women who are in their late teens or 20s respectivelyNobody is hounding you. Thought we were having a friendly conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 09:48 PM |
| 1 | There’s nothing inherently wrong with adult men in their 20s and 30s dating adult women who are in their late teens or 20s respectivelyhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/12/27/health/us-tobacco-age-21-trnd/index.html What’s this then? I think Texas and other states are being redundant now. Wasting your tax dollars lolol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 09:38 PM |
| 2 | There’s nothing inherently wrong with adult men in their 20s and 30s dating adult women who are in their late teens or 20s respectivelyI think nation-wide. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 09:28 PM |
| 4 | There’s nothing inherently wrong with adult men in their 20s and 30s dating adult women who are in their late teens or 20s respectivelyI thought every state just did that. It was the FDA, no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 09:25 PM |
| 1 | Stacy Chasing is the Logical Outcome of AWALTYeah, but thats not logical as per the OP’s condition. It’s logical to attempt to secure the most desirable partner. You can only do this by pursuing most attractive first. Being afraid to pursue and secure the most desirable partner because you are a neurotic bitchass is not logical lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 06:14 PM |
| 9 | Stacy Chasing is the Logical Outcome of AWALTNo. The logical outcome of the typical female dating strategy is the stable marriage hypothesis. Basically, if men are the ones who have to make a move and approach, then the most logical thing to do is start at the top and work your way down. If you have to approach anyway, you might as well start at the most desirable and work your way down. Why would you ever start at average or below average? It’s also not more or less humiliating to be rejected. The most logical thing is to not really care … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 06:05 PM |
| 7 | If you believe AWALT then you can't question the generalizability of samples related to sex/relationships.You’re taking AWALT too literally. It’s like “treat all guns as if they are loaded.” You actually shouldn’t literally treat all guns if they are loaded all the time. It wouldn’t make sense to. AWALT is a similar phrase to acknowledge the nature of the sexes and remind oneself that humans naturally have selfish desires. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 05:37 PM |
| 1 | The Madonna-Whore dichotomy, why and how to fix it? NsfwTrue, I think it’s up to the woman. If she thinks BJs are degrading and likes she likes giving BJs because of that, then she enjoys degrading sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 04:23 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Lasting, *intentional* change is not something the overwhelming majority of people are capable of.Learning new things is a literal change from the you before you knew these new things. You’re completely incorrect. Your tendencies are not the entirety of the things that define you. The difference between you as a mother and you as a single mom and you as a single childless woman are massive and completely different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 02:13 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Lasting, *intentional* change is not something the overwhelming majority of people are capable of.Lol you’re in denial. Getting an education is literally changing who you are. It’s not even about improvement. Lots of people regress over time and change for the worse. Drug addiction, depression, childbirth etc.. to act like people are the same person throughout their lives is fantasy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 01:57 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Lasting, *intentional* change is not something the overwhelming majority of people are capable of.Horrible take. You’re not the same person as you were at 18. If you are then you are doing something horribly wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 01:25 PM |
| 1 | Study: Tinder isn't effective for hookupsOkay and 20% did and 7% got more than one. It’s not effective because you’re not attractive enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 01:20 PM |
| 9 | Abandon Red pill for the start of 2020You’re not supposed to be there. Read the sidebar, get what you need and leave. The work is done outside the manosphere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 06:03 AM |
| 1 | Most of your views come from how you perceived highschool/collegeWell it’s not necessarily “formal rules.” It’s essentially just logic and manners. You’ll get the hang of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 04:31 AM |
| 1 | Most of your views come from how you perceived highschool/collegeHmmm if you don’t want to debate online then don’t do it. Nobody is forcing you to be here. Right now I’m sidetracked by the US strike on Iran’s commander. Maybe war is brewing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 04:26 AM |
| 1 | Most of your views come from how you perceived highschool/collegeNo you can’t focus on one point lol you can’t do anything without moving the goalposts. You’ve already proved that multiple times. I’m refuting your point that these women were led there from personal experience getting played. Whatever other point you make is irrelevant. That’s the claim I am refuting from you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 04:12 AM |
| 1 | Most of your views come from how you perceived highschool/collegeYeah I’m reading it and I know what you moved the goalposts to as well. I’m telling you what I object to. I don’t believe it is out of personal experience. It MAY be because of how they witnessed other women treated but your idea that it’s because of personal experience of getting played is wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 03:48 AM |
| 1 | Most of your views come from how you perceived highschool/collegeLady, your claim was that they themselves were played. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 03:46 AM |
| 1 | Most of your views come from how you perceived highschool/collegeThat doesn’t make sense in this context lady. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 03:43 AM |
| 1 | Most of your views come from how you perceived highschool/collegeExcept then you moved the goalposts to WITNESSING treatment when I brought up my points. You moved the goalposts from your original claim. The fact that your original message was different is the entire point. You moved the goalposts from your original message. We can start over if you like. You say it’s how they are treated. I say many of them femcels so they haven’t had this treatment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 03:41 AM |
| 1 | Most of your views come from how you perceived highschool/collegeLady, you moved the goalposts from your original message. That’s the definition of moving the goalposts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 03:39 AM |
| 1 | Most of your views come from how you perceived highschool/collegeSo NOT what you witnessed, but how you were treated. So are you done moving goalposts? You know you did the same exact thing last time we debated too. Your brain can’t focus on defending your point. Why is that? So my point again, is that FDS types are primarily femcels and celibate. They mostly were not treated such ways as getting played because they weren’t having sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 03:37 AM |
| 1 | Most of your views come from how you perceived highschool/collegeSo it’s not being pumped and dumped it getting played? It’s witnessing such acts? Do you always argue like this and move your goalposts? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 03:01 AM |
| 1 | Most of your views come from how you perceived highschool/collegeHow does the idea that self-proclaimed celibate women tend to not be the casual sex type? I think it’s obvious.... my evidence is sound. You made the claim though so the burden of proof is on YOU. I gave you evidence to justify my stance. Show me evidence that justifies yours. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 02:57 AM |
| 1 | Most of your views come from how you perceived highschool/collegeTrufemcels, not gendercrit. Read my comment again and then look at the link again. #1 is femcels. Don’t make me hold your hand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 02:54 AM |
| 1 | Most of your views come from how you perceived highschool/collegeFemcels and FDS have the largest overlap of any comparable sub, then gender crit. FDS was started by femcels and femcels remain the mods. https://imgur.com/a/2odSePa So I would think your pump and dump theory is incorrect. Lots of girls get pumped and dumped lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 02:44 AM |
| 2 | Most of your views come from how you perceived highschool/collegeOkay? And the FDS girls gain those arguments from reading FDS, not by going on tinder and experiencing high school. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 02:36 AM |
| 4 | Most of your views come from how you perceived highschool/collegeOk? You literally just quote above that ALL MEN HERE ARE ON TINDER. It’s clear to me that most men here arguing red pill vs blue pill have gained such arguments from reading red pill material, not using tinder and experiencing high school? Is not that obvious to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 02:33 AM |
| 11 | Most of your views come from how you perceived highschool/collegeI think you’re projecting your own anti social tendencies and atypical thought patterns. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 02:31 AM |
| 9 | Most of your views come from how you perceived highschool/collegeWhy are you speaking as if you know what we all look like or what our social circle is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 02:14 AM |
| 6 | CMV: Women are right to select for "Chad" even when it's just a ONS because low value men like those found in TRP are more trouble than they are worth.Lady, it’s not about approval. It’s about having a healthy view of your sexuality and living a life in which you are not ashamed of yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 12:16 AM |
| 14 | CMV: Women are right to select for "Chad" even when it's just a ONS because low value men like those found in TRP are more trouble than they are worth.No. Pump and dumps are often when intentions are left ambiguous and unspoken. There is no deceit if she merely assumes the man will stick around. If she is so concerned he will bail afterwards then she has just as much responsibility as he does to align intentions, expectations and ideals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 11:40 PM |
| 10 | CMV: Women are right to select for "Chad" even when it's just a ONS because low value men like those found in TRP are more trouble than they are worth.Lady, nobody is trying to shame you into fucking dudes you don’t want to or anyone for that matter lol I’m telling you that you shouldn’t feel existential neuroticism and a life of shame for fucking some non-chad dude. It’s an unhealthy way to live. You shouldn’t have so much shame about your own sexuality. Your idea that fucking someone who has a bad personality irreparably damages you makes no sense whatsoever. Your idea that hooking up only benefits men is insane. Lots of slutty women enjoy t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 11:34 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Lasting, *intentional* change is not something the overwhelming majority of people are capable of.What are you even talking about? This assumes that an 18 year old freshman in college is the same person when he graduates at 22. That couldn’t be further from the truth. Very many people make lasting changes to their being. They do it all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 10:24 PM |
| 14 | CMV: Women are right to select for "Chad" even when it's just a ONS because low value men like those found in TRP are more trouble than they are worth.This idea that fucking some person with an unattractive personality is “an insult” and is something to feel ashamed about is regressive. The idea that you should feel degraded, devalued and ashamed that you had sex is wrong, even if it’s with someone with a personality you consider immoral or wrong. Most people don’t care who they engage in casual sex with, they aren’t in it for the personality. They are using each other as masturbatory tools. I’ve probably fucked many women with ugly ass attitu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 10:21 PM |
| 2 | The Madonna-Whore dichotomy, why and how to fix it? NsfwI never said that other fantasies of women are uncommon? How does another common fantasy of women disprove that abusive fantasies are uncommon? Many fantasies are common in women. Women are allowed to have many fantasies and many are quite common lmao You already conceded and made the claim that there are A LOT of self-hating women who engage in degradation and abusive fantasies. That was my only point - that those fantasies are indeed common among women. You are arguing against yourself since y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 09:01 PM |
| 1 | What’s the deal with Incest? What’re some repulsed by it? Why are others going for it?Yeah I agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 08:29 PM |
| 1 | What’s the deal with Incest? What’re some repulsed by it? Why are others going for it?Right, which is my point. It seems to be instinctual and not based on any knowledge of the effects of inbreeding from observation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 08:14 PM |
| 2 | What’s the deal with Incest? What’re some repulsed by it? Why are others going for it?Okay you seemed to imply otherwise. If it’s instinctual then it’s not based on a knowledge of the effects of inbreeding, so knowing that children born of incest are prone to genetic disorders is wholly irrelevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 08:09 PM |
| 0 | What’s the deal with Incest? What’re some repulsed by it? Why are others going for it?You think people are grossed out by incest simply because we have observed the effects of inbreeding? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 07:50 PM |
| 2 | What’s the deal with Incest? What’re some repulsed by it? Why are others going for it?Q: why is incest considered gross? A: Because constantly breeding into your own gene pool is going to make for some genetic issues. Just look at European royals FFS So Smurf’s answer to the question of why incest is considered gross was that it is because we have seen the effects of incest and understand the effects of inbreeding from observing European royals, even if we didn’t understand genetics completely at a lab level at that time. This implies that it is gross because of our understanding… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 07:21 PM |
| 3 | What’s the deal with Incest? What’re some repulsed by it? Why are others going for it?I think that’s very plausible. The person I am replying to seemed to imply that the reason it’s gross it’s cultural and due to our understanding of the effects of inbreeding. I am suggesting it’s possible that is inherent, much like you are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 07:05 PM |
| 1 | What’s the deal with Incest? What’re some repulsed by it? Why are others going for it?Right... so you seem to agree with me that it’s possible that it isn’t merely because of an understanding of genetics.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 07:02 PM |
| 3 | What’s the deal with Incest? What’re some repulsed by it? Why are others going for it?Yeah, so it doesn’t seem to be merely because of our understanding of genetics. I would assume that this is the case or at least there are strong theories to suggest it’s more than just because of an understanding of genetics... thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 07:01 PM |
| 1 | The Madonna-Whore dichotomy, why and how to fix it? NsfwYou claimed there are A LOT of self-hating women out there. That is my claim also... that this dynamic is common. There’s A LOT of these types of women. Now whether or not that means these women are truly self-hating is a different discussion, but you already agreed that there is a lot of them. So I don’t see the point of your screed. It’s a lot of words to admit that I’m right and this dynamic is common enough for there to be “A LOT” of these women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 07:00 PM |
| 2 | She's seen a lot. Experienced. Unemployed, fat, has kids that don't live with her, and one request: 'Don't be judgemental.'Stop | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 06:52 PM |
| 2 | What’s the deal with Incest? What’re some repulsed by it? Why are others going for it?I hate this OP lol but is the genetic reason really why it’s seen as gross? Did people see it as gross when genetics were not widely understood? ... is the answer really simply because of our understanding of genetics and inbreeding? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 06:51 PM |
| 1 | California should switch to a matriarchyIts a system where the men are typically unemployed or under-employed and are generally unhelpful and unreliable in contributing financially in raising families (being a patriarch). The women (mothers) hold nearly all the financial and familiar power in the dynamic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 05:59 PM |
| 5 | California should switch to a matriarchyMatriarchy already exists in the inner city. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 05:18 PM |
| 1 | Study: Tinder isn't effective for hookupsThe amount of mental gymnastics. You basically have to believe that sluts don’t exist in order to make the claim. It’s like... they clearly exist... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 04:38 PM |
| 3 | Study: Tinder isn't effective for hookupsHow is this even an argument? Is his claim really that sex is equally as difficult to obtain for attractive men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 04:20 PM |
| 2 | Porn, FOMO and the romantically unsuccessfulNobody is claiming ALL men compartmentalize it properly. Of course there exists a portion who don’t. The point being that fantasy entertainment doesn’t produce a sense of FOMO like other forms of media do, especially ones that pursue a sense of curated reality like social media. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 02:52 PM |
| 11 | Porn, FOMO and the romantically unsuccessfulI don’t think so. FOMO seems more related to your social circle’s activities and especially how you perceive their lifestyles from what they post on social media. I don’t think porn induces FOMO to the same extent because of its fantastical elements. Basically, things that sell a fantasy seem to rarely induce FOMO. Movies, TV shows, etc.. rarely induce FOMO because it’s clearly a fantasy. It’s entertainment purely due to its fantastical elements. It’s when you believe that lifestyle is genuine a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 02:10 PM |
| 7 | Study: Tinder isn't effective for hookupsIt’s not effective for you maybe or for average men lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 12:57 PM |
| 1 | The Madonna-Whore dichotomy, why and how to fix it? NsfwThat’s a lot of words just agreeing with me that it is common for women to have fantasies about sexual abuse lol Look, from my experience, the fantasy is fairly common among women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 12:52 PM |
| 1 | The Madonna-Whore dichotomy, why and how to fix it? NsfwFrom 1973 through 2008, nine surveys of women's rape fantasies have been published. They show that about four in 10 women admit having them (31 to 57 percent) with a median frequency of about once a month. The actual prevalence of rape fantasies is probably higher because women may not feel comfortable admitting them. Degrading fantasies are quite common among women. If you met and dated many women, you would experience this firsthand. I don’t think many women really comprehend how common it is.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 04:36 AM |
| 2 | The Madonna-Whore dichotomy, why and how to fix it? NsfwIt’s good sex to some women indeed. One of the more common female sexual fantasies actually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 03:27 AM |
| 2 | The Madonna-Whore dichotomy, why and how to fix it? NsfwTrue, but let’s not excuse women’s responsibility here. Women fantasize about being degraded and devalued as well. It’s quite common from my experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 03:11 AM |
| 1 | there isn't a fucking reason to use tinder nowTo you maybe, but it remains a reason to use tinder nonetheless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 02:23 AM |
| 0 | there isn't a fucking reason to use tinder nowMore sluts on tinder | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 02:11 AM |
| 5 | The Madonna-Whore dichotomy, why and how to fix it? NsfwI think a lot of sex is about male domination. Whether it’s the woman fantasizing about masculinity in this way or it’s the way men perceive it, we really haven’t escaped such dynamics. I would guess that it starts as a young boy. You’re not really keen on your mothers sexuality. For all intents and purposes, she is asexual and the things a baby does with a mother like breastfeeding and bathing are divorced from the sexuality of the mother. Seeking another mother for your own child then subconsc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/20 02:10 AM |
| 1 | Jews?❤️jews | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/20 04:57 AM |
| 1 | Jews?K both u win 🥰 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/20 03:51 AM |
| 1 | Jews?Pastrami or die | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/20 03:43 AM |
| 1 | Jews?Calling a certain type of Jewish girls jappy? Yes... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/20 03:25 AM |
| 1 | Jews?Japppy yes... What do you think...I’m the king of jappy girls | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/20 03:22 AM |
| 3 | Is there proof and examples of women mocking a man's masculinity?Plenty of women question a man’s sexuality after rejection. How could you even claim otherwise? https://www.reddit.com/r/Nicegirls/comments/bdp26a/i_guess_im_gay/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&utm_term=link I’ve had it happen myself. Your implication that women do not mock men and uphold gender roles is ironically extremely unfeminist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/19 03:04 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Do rich playboys believe the women are there because if who they are?Agreed. It’s pretty crazy and doesn’t even feel that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/19 07:09 AM |
| 1 | [Q4ALL] Do you feel like you have a "chip on your shoulder" due to rejection from someone of the opposite sex?I understand how you moved the goalposts from mocking a guy who made a legitimate observation about the dating mArket to “put your game face on.” Good job moving the goalposts again. Yeah no shit you should stop seeing her if she’s not putting the effort in. Explaining this reservation about women in the dating scene is not “getting pissy.” Not sure why you are making that connection. The man above is making valid observations about the reservations men have with dating - as you do have admitted… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/19 06:58 AM |
| 1 | [Q4ALL] Do you feel like you have a "chip on your shoulder" due to rejection from someone of the opposite sex?Nobody is arguing otherwise? TRP acknowledges that you show up to win. Your mocking tone implies that men have no valid complaints about dating. That’s just not the true at all. And I’m still not sure why such rhetoric offends you. There are a lot of scheming women out there who don’t put any effort into dating and assume that men take all the responsibility. That fact is just completely separate from having to “put your game face on and playing to win.” Not sure why you are moving the goalposts… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/19 06:11 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: Do rich playboys believe the women are there because if who they are?“Who they are” is a rich playboy. We would take girls out on the water and have fun. They were there for many reasons, one of them being that they genuinely enjoyed our company. They could easily find just another dude with a bigger boat and they often did, but who cares? The ones that liked our company stuck around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/19 03:12 AM |
| 8 | [Q4ALL] Do you feel like you have a "chip on your shoulder" due to rejection from someone of the opposite sex?Romance is a thing women consume, but it is a verb for men. Not sure why the idea that men have valid reservations about dating expectations offends you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/19 11:49 PM |
| 1 | Study: Men who do more housework have less sexAgain, I don’t doubt there are untruthful answers. I’m just giving you an alternative explanation as to why there may be studies with differing numbers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/19 06:34 PM |
| 1 | Study: Men who do more housework have less sexI think not. Typically, they are studying 18-25 year olds. It’s just a simple fact of the matter that the numbers will differ when one group sleeps outside of the closed system being studied more often than the other group. Not saying there is no lying on these studies. It’s just that there are alternative explanations for differing numbers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/19 06:24 PM |
| 2 | Study: Men who do more housework have less sexThere are alternative explanations because they are often studying closed systems and the SMP is an open system. Ask college kids how many sexual partners they’ve had. The numbers will be different across genders. Why? Because they are studying a closed system but since people in college have sex with people outside of college, the numbers will inevitably be different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/19 06:10 PM |
| 9 | Do Women Appreciate Societal Protection from Men and What Would happened if it stopped?The waiter absolutely cares for the appreciation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/19 02:58 AM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”Ain’t nothing wrong with it as long as both parties know the deal. Many old rich men with young hotties have mutually understanding relationships. Ain’t nothing nothing with using women solely for their bodies as long as all parties know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/19 07:28 PM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”I think the competing narratives are interesting to explore. You have this narrative that “that type of guy” often hurts women and makes them feel disposable. But then you have another narrative that women should have the freedom to pursue purely casual relationships. So why doesn’t this narrative extend to men? I don’t think men are really getting a mainstream narrative that it’s okay for them to want women purely for sex. While I think women are certainly getting the narrative that it’s okay f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/19 01:21 AM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”I assume the best in you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/19 01:07 AM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”I’m not sure why would respond in kind though? It’s just mindless. The cultural reasons behind the “I’m not that kinda girl” phenomenon is not merely “AWALT” I’m assuming you are smarter than that. Don’t stoop to a level under yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/19 01:03 AM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”How is that a response to my OP? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/19 12:59 AM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”Agree to disagree about what?? I’m not even disagreeing with you yet! Where did “reasonable expectations” come from? Now you’ve changed your claim to include “reasonable expectations” and speak of it like you previously mentioned it. Lady, you were talking about limitations, not expectations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/19 12:58 AM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”Why are you being so defensive? I’m not even debating you, I’m just trying to figure out your actual position. It’s all over the place. Now you are talking about ‘reasonable expectations’??? Lady, your comment was about reasonable LIMITATIONS, not expectations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/19 12:56 AM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”https://imgur.com/a/VS4Np61 It’s exactly what you said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/19 12:47 AM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”You just said above that you don’t have a problem with it within reasonable limitations! So a trash person to you is someone who only has sex based on looks? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/19 12:44 AM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”So you don’t have a problem with people having causal sex. You only have a problem with people knowingly sleeping with trash humans. But you assume that ONS are all with trash humans. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/19 12:41 AM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”So girls who want some quick dick off tinder are trash humans? You said earlier that it’s only bad if the person is aware of their partners grossness. Now you’ve changed? Look, you can assume all people who pursue casual sex are trash humans but that wasn’t your original claim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/19 12:35 AM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”So why would it be a yes? Wouldn’t your answer be “no there’s nothing wrong with it, unless that person is gross as fuck and you know them to be” It seems like you don’t have a problem with people having ONS and pursuing people for attraction as long as they are unaware of their partners grossness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/19 12:32 AM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”Let’s try this again: Why would you never associate with type of man? Is there something wrong with pursuing sex solely for the physical attraction aspect? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/19 12:28 AM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”You’re incapable of lots of things it seems Let’s try this again: Why would you never associate with type of man? Is there something wrong with pursuing sex solely for the physical attraction aspect? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/19 12:27 AM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”Let’s try this again, the context is this question: Why would you never associate with type of man? Is there something wrong with pursuing sex solely for the physical attraction aspect? ——- It seems like you just misspoke and meant to type “no, unless that person fucks gross humans.” I’m trying to figure out why you answered “yes because some of those people are gross” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/19 12:26 AM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”You responded in the exact way in Q3. Just scroll up and look at your answer Is there something wrong with pursuing sex solely for the physical attraction aspect? You responded “yes, because some of those people are gross.” I think you misspoke and meant to type “no, unless you willingly sleep with gross people.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/19 12:23 AM |
| 0 | “Not that type of guy”Idk man. I think there are plenty of men who think that using women just for sex is wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/19 12:18 AM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”Let’s try this again: Why would you never associate with type of man? Is there something wrong with pursuing sex solely for the physical attraction aspect? Why would this be a yes according to you just because some of those people are gross humans? ——- It seems like you just misspoke and meant to type “no, unless that person fucks gross humans.” I’m trying to figure out why you answered “yes because some of those people are gross” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/19 12:17 AM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”The context is the yes or no question I asked you. Why would you never associate with type of man? Is there something wrong with pursuing sex solely for the physical attraction aspect? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/19 12:15 AM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”There's a person in there. Soms of these people are gross as fuck human beings. Your response “yes because some of these people are gross” implies this. Do you just not understand your own response here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/19 12:14 AM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”Why would you never associate with type of man? Is there something wrong with pursuing sex solely for the physical attraction aspect? READ OUR CONVERSATION. I asked you a yes or no question and you responded yes. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ef8me5/not_that_type_of_guy/fbyz7lf/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/19 12:11 AM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”Dude I literally asked you if there is anything wrong with pursuing women just because they are attractive. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ef8me5/not_that_type_of_guy/fbyz7lf/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf And you said yes because those women might be bad people. So let’s start fresh with my original response to you: Why would you never associate with type of man? Is there something wrong with pursuing sex solely for the physical attraction aspect? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/19 12:09 AM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”There's a person in there. Soms of these people are gross as fuck human beings. So again, it’s not gross to just fuck someone because they are attractive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/19 12:06 AM |
| 0 | “Not that type of guy”There's a person in there. Soms of these people are gross as fuck human beings. So this comment you wrote is inaccurate? It’s now not gross to just fuck for attraction because some of those people are gross as fuck. It’s only gross if you know the person is a bad person? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/19 12:03 AM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”So what is your claim here? There's a person in there. Soms of these people are gross as fuck human beings. If you can still have sex with a gross as fuck human being because she's hot, then I don't want to associate with you. We are talking about fucking girls without knowing who they are as people. Your claim is that it is gross because they might be bad people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/19 12:00 AM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”I agree to an extent. I do think that many men have this idea that wanting women only for sex is a bad thing though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/19 11:58 PM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”Why should I care what some girl who I will never see again thinks? So it’s about being aware the other person sucks? There's a person in there. Soms of these people are gross as fuck human beings. If you can still have sex with a gross as fuck human being because she's hot, then I don't want to associate with you. Your comment doesn’t imply anything about awareness. In fact; you are stating anyone who has sex with these people are bad regardless of awareness. Are you changing your claim now? We… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/19 11:54 PM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”Thanks for sharing! I think a lot of guys who say it mean it honestly. I’m just not sure where they are getting the idea that being “that type of guy” is anything to be ashamed about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/19 11:52 PM |
| 0 | “Not that type of guy”I can view women as individuals with differing personalities and nuances and still only want casual sex with them. I can and I have. So what point are you trying to make here? Maybe you need to re-read the OP. Your replies are irrelevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/19 11:50 PM |
| 5 | “Not that type of guy”I think lots of men befriend women only to fuck them and don’t care about them in any other way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/19 11:48 PM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”I don’t think anyone is denying there is a person in there though. Who cares what their political ideations are? I’ve slept with communist girls before who wanted to round up and shoot people with capital (me). Lots of people have sex without knowing anything about the other person. Aren’t you really young? You’re not going to have very many friends if you excommunicate anyone who has ever has a ONS. Firstly validating all their thoughts to make sure their “moral” is impractical. Secondly, you w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/19 11:46 PM |
| 2 | “Not that type of guy”Yeah I’ve seen it used as a cover too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/19 11:34 PM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”Can you expand on that? Why is it low emotional intelligence? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/19 11:33 PM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”Why would you never associate with type of man? Is there something wrong with pursuing sex solely for the physical attraction aspect? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/19 11:33 PM |
| 1 | “Not that type of guy”On a plane. Excuse me for any grammar / formatting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/19 11:13 PM |
| 2 | For straight, non-deformed people... I do believe that there is "someone" for everyoneWhat do you mean by deserving? And how is anyone deserving of someone else? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/19 09:28 PM |
| 2 | Q4A : How much time for a Girlfriend tag?Yeah and people do the same with sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/19 06:05 PM |
| 5 | Q4A : How much time for a Girlfriend tag?There is no time limit. It’s not that big of a deal to me. If she wants to date then that’s fine honestly, it’s not like the label inherently means we’re building a life together or is legally binding in any way. If sex has no inherent meaning then neither does a label. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/19 05:22 PM |
| 13 | Men can be easily manipulated through our sexuality. Are men more vulnerable to this type of manipulation than women?By the right men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/19 01:54 AM |
| 11 | Men can be easily manipulated through our sexuality. Are men more vulnerable to this type of manipulation than women?Yes. Men are very easily manipulated by women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/19 01:43 AM |
| 2 | What do feminists, BluePill, and PinkPill girls expect from average and unattractive men w/r/t sexual urges?With regards to | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/19 10:05 PM |
| 1 | Has this sub actually changed anyone's mind?Yes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/19 09:19 PM |
| 5 | Q4M: Its Saturday afternoon and you're spending time at home with your wife or girlfriend. She politely asks you to make her a sandwich. How do you respond?I’d tell her that sandwiches have too many carbs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/19 06:26 PM |
| 2 | Do men on here ever take a moment to analyze the type of women they’re attracted to?So now it’s movies and shows? Thought it was porn. I think women are mostly responsible for the porn that is online today. The majority of it is self-posts and nude selfies. Nude selfies from women seem to outweigh any high production porn films. Anyway, source your claim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/19 01:38 PM |
| 1 | Do men on here ever take a moment to analyze the type of women they’re attracted to?Source your claim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/19 01:20 PM |
| 1 | Do men on here ever take a moment to analyze the type of women they’re attracted to?Sure a lot of porn is created by men. A lot of it today is cam amateurs and self-posts though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/19 04:04 AM |
| 1 | Do men on here ever take a moment to analyze the type of women they’re attracted to?And like I said, that’s incorrect. There are multiple sources for the manipulated perception of women as women too share this incorrect perception of other women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 10:41 PM |
| 1 | Do men on here ever take a moment to analyze the type of women they’re attracted to?You literally said above it’s men’s fault that they have a warped view of women. Get off the internet. Exactly. Its men’s fault for allowing the internet to warp their perception of women. Women have been telling men to stop doing that, but men dont listen. Literally everyone can read what you wrote above. Why deny it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 08:04 PM |
| 1 | Do men on here ever take a moment to analyze the type of women they’re attracted to?Who told women to only care about what hot women are doing? Your idea that it’s men’s fault that people have a warped perception of women is wrong. Both men and women have this warped perception. This warped perception of women spans across genders and is actually stronger in women than men. Not sure how this is the fault of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 07:44 PM |
| 1 | Do men on here ever take a moment to analyze the type of women they’re attracted to?It does. You’re saying that it’s men fault that men have a warped perception of women. I’m telling you that it’s not exclusively men’s fault. Women also have a warped perception of women and this warped perception is perpetuated by other women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 07:25 PM |
| 1 | Do men on here ever take a moment to analyze the type of women they’re attracted to?Lady, I don’t know how that means this problem is exclusive to men. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1740144514001375?via%3Dihub Here’s an actual study, not a meme you just fabricated. Results showed a positive relationship between Facebook usage and body image concerns, which was mediated by appearance comparisons in general, frequency of comparisons to close friends and distant peers, and by upward comparisons (judging one's own appearance to be worse) to distant peers an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Do men on here ever take a moment to analyze the type of women they’re attracted to?Hardly. Women have tell other women not to judge their own appearance by social media standards and fail to do so. What makes you think this problem is exclusive to men? In my opinion, it’s women whose self-image and worth are more influenced by social media. Women have massively manipulated their own perception of other women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 06:27 PM |
| 1 | If Redpillers Don't Love the Women they are With why should a Woman Have a Relationship with one?What makes you think RP men want relationships? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?Idk what you’re trying to say. Stop moralizing. The question we are debating is whether or not shaming is a successful tactic in controlling human behavior, which it obviously is. Not sure what OP has to do with our disagreement or why his motivations matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 02:42 PM |
| 1 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?What? I’m saying moralizing plays no part in verifying things as successful or unsuccessful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 02:11 AM |
| 2 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?What is your point here? I didn’t say we are going back or should. However, we can’t really deny the efficacy of shaming. The church and various cultures use to great effect. Why are you denying this? Why claim shaming is unsuccessful? It clearly is successful but that doesn’t mean it should be employed. Don’t moralize. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 01:39 AM |
| 5 | Assuming that female N was actually proven to be detrimental to long term pairing, how would this change the debate?I don’t think you can make the claim that slut shaming or fat shaming is unsuccessful. Japan is wildly successful in fat shaming for instance. Shaming, social ostracism etc.. are all certainly effective in controlling human behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/19 12:10 AM |
| 1 | When is it okay for unattractive men to approach women?So not this sub lol I also don’t see them calling you a bitch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 09:02 PM |
| 2 | When is it okay for unattractive men to approach women?Can you link me to that instance of someone calling you a bitch for not wanting to interpreted mid set? I find that hard to believe. If your point is that you shouldn’t interrupt someone’s set then okay I agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 08:31 PM |
| 2 | When is it okay for unattractive men to approach women?Disagree. Chess is very mathematical. Humans are far more emotional than something that can be replicated so easily by a computer. A computer can play chess, quite well. By your logic, a computer would be the best coach at PUA too. Alas, humans are illogical and emotional. It’s nothing like chess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 08:01 PM |
| 1 | When is it okay for unattractive men to approach women?Oh well yeah obviously don’t interpret her set. But that goes for talking to anyone in the gym lol I didn’t think that was your point because it’s such meaningless unnecessary thing to say. The original commenter suggested or seem to suggest not approaching women at the gym at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 07:55 PM |
| 1 | When is it okay for unattractive men to approach women?I’m not sure what you think qualifies as an “approach.” Merely saying “hello” is approaching a woman. You won’t get kicked out of the gym for asking a girl about her workout plan and you will not get kicked out of the gym for saying hello to anyone lol Approaching women in the gym or a grocery store is different than approaching women in the bar or the club. Nevertheless, they are still all approaches. An approach doesn’t have to overtly sexual. The problem with your advice is that you are assum… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 07:53 PM |
| 2 | When is it okay for unattractive men to approach women?No? I’m likely going to marry the girl I met at the gym. Why would it have been better if I didn’t approach her? If I followed your advice I would never met my gf. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 07:25 PM |
| 4 | When is it okay for unattractive men to approach women?Meaningless statement. Literally any time any approach is successful, you have found a girl who didn’t mind when others may have said “no” because you disturbed them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 07:17 PM |
| 0 | When is it okay for unattractive men to approach women?It’s actually bad logic and doesn’t hold up. No doubt there are plenty of bad PUA coaches. However, some of the best boxing/MMA/wrestling/football/golf etc.. coaches were often not that successful themselves in those sports. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 06:59 PM |
| 3 | When is it okay for unattractive men to approach women?I met my gf at the gym and she was certainly busy working out lol You’re asking men to leave chips on the table by not approaching “busy” looking women. As long as he takes the L well, I don’t see why he should disadvantage himself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 06:06 PM |
| 2 | To what extent is sexual attraction determined by biology and society?Nobody said culture doesn’t affect sexual attraction. I said the claim that humans are attracted to gender and NOT sex is wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 04:54 AM |
| 2 | To what extent is sexual attraction determined by biology and society?I don’t know how that negates what I said at all? Do you think female primates are attracted to male primates because of their gender expression? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/19 04:45 AM |
| 2 | Girls don't keep orbiters as much as they are just being nice and preventing a guy from getting rapey on them CMVOkay, it is possible that their friendship was disingenuous for a time. That still doesn’t prove your claim that it is impossible for them to have ever wanted only friendship. They wanted friendship. Then they wanted a relationship. Then they pretended to only want friendship for a while before asking you out. Then they flip out. Even in this scenario, it is still possible there was a time he was only interested in friendship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 08:49 PM |
| 5 | To what extent is sexual attraction determined by biology and society?More than typical leftists are willing to believe. I think one of the worst takes in modern discourse by bloops is the idea that humans are attracted to gender and not sex. It’s terrible logic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 08:47 PM |
| 2 | Girls don't keep orbiters as much as they are just being nice and preventing a guy from getting rapey on them CMVEven if they flipped out on you after rejection, there still remains the possibility that they pursued friendship with you in earnest to begin with. Then their feelings changed to where they wanted to date. Then they flipped out on you after being rejected. Even to your story, it still remains a possibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 08:44 PM |
| 2 | Girls don't keep orbiters as much as they are just being nice and preventing a guy from getting rapey on them CMVI assume you are telling a story sure lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 08:10 PM |
| 2 | Girls don't keep orbiters as much as they are just being nice and preventing a guy from getting rapey on them CMVI’m not sure why you think I am arguing all men are wonderful lol I’m arguing against your premise that it’s an impossibility in your specific scenario and in other scenarios too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Girls don't keep orbiters as much as they are just being nice and preventing a guy from getting rapey on them CMVYou’re not making sense. It still remains a possibility regardless of how they handled it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 07:48 PM |
| 2 | Girls don't keep orbiters as much as they are just being nice and preventing a guy from getting rapey on them CMVBecause you may want time and space to heal and move on. Lots of people can’t move on or heal if they are close to their love interest. I’m surprised this is such a novel concept for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 07:36 PM |
| 1 | Girls don't keep orbiters as much as they are just being nice and preventing a guy from getting rapey on them CMVWhy wouldn’t they? Why would I want to be friends with someone when I no longer want to be just friends with them? Again, I am friends with a girl. I change my desires as I grow feelings and want a relationship with her. I ask her out. She says no. I no longer wish to be friends with her in order to give me space to move on. You’re claim is that the above scenario is impossible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 07:34 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP : What do the studies that show lower partner counts for attractive or healthy weight women say about high partner count women? And conversely why overweight or less attractive women show higher partner counts?The study being referenced is titled ‘handsome wants as handsome does’ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 07:29 PM |
| 1 | Girls don't keep orbiters as much as they are just being nice and preventing a guy from getting rapey on them CMVI never said a definitive statement on the men you experienced in particular. My claim is that both outcomes are possible: that their desires changed over time and that their desires did not change over time. On the other hand, your point is that it is impossible for those men’s desires to change over time. I’m telling you that this is wrong. It’s perfectly possible that even those men had their desires change over time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Girls don't keep orbiters as much as they are just being nice and preventing a guy from getting rapey on them CMVI’m arguing that you’re wrong in assuming it’s impossible for these men to have their desires change over time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 07:22 PM |
| 2 | Girls don't keep orbiters as much as they are just being nice and preventing a guy from getting rapey on them CMVLady, it is you who apparently think men are super-human with desires that never change lol You may be right about these men in particular. My argument was never that it is impossible for you to be wrong about their motives. My argument was merely that it was possible for you to be wrong due to changing ones desires. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 07:19 PM |
| 2 | Girls don't keep orbiters as much as they are just being nice and preventing a guy from getting rapey on them CMVYou can believe things should or should not be a certain way, but that doesn’t make them not that way to begin with lol Your premise, again, was that these men weren’t friends with you to begin with. Everyone can scroll up and read what you wrote lol Nevertheless, it remains entirely possible that men start friendships only wanting to be friends and then they catch feelings later. It’s also entirely possible and actually quite reasonable for people to not want to be friends with people they have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 07:03 PM |
| 2 | Girls don't keep orbiters as much as they are just being nice and preventing a guy from getting rapey on them CMVI never said anyone did anything for certain. I said that it’s possible for desires to change. You’re the one whose claim is based on the premise that those desires never change. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 06:56 PM |
| 2 | Girls don't keep orbiters as much as they are just being nice and preventing a guy from getting rapey on them CMVAgain, you say that, but it’s entirely possible that he wanted to be friends BEFORE he gained feelings for you. People want friendships. Then they may gain feelings for the person. Then they may no longer want to be friends because they still having feelings for that person and need time and space to be alone to recover. Again, desires change. Your claim assumes that they don’t. It’s just wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 06:38 PM |
| 2 | Girls don't keep orbiters as much as they are just being nice and preventing a guy from getting rapey on them CMVNobody has to do anything lol Your point was that if he no longer wants to be friends, then he didn’t want to be friends to begin with. Everyone can scroll up and read your point lol Such a claim only makes sense if wants never change. But again, they do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 06:18 PM |
| 2 | Girls don't keep orbiters as much as they are just being nice and preventing a guy from getting rapey on them CMVThat’s not true at all. Again, because it is entirely possible that your wants change. You might be friends with your spouse, but no longer want to remain friends after a divorce. You can be friends with your boss but no longer want to if he forces you to resign (due to no fault from either party). Your idea that this means that you never wanted to be friends in the first place is just asinine. It’s a nonsensical statement because the wants of people change. Your thought process assumes your wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 06:05 PM |
| 2 | Girls don't keep orbiters as much as they are just being nice and preventing a guy from getting rapey on them CMVSure they do lol I can’t even take your responses very seriously if you are claiming desires are impossible to change based on anything. Maybe I wanted to be friends with my boss. Then he rejected me for a promotion. Now I no longer want to be friends with him. Easy peasy girl. Desire changed from one word answer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 05:58 PM |
| 1 | Girls don't keep orbiters as much as they are just being nice and preventing a guy from getting rapey on them CMVAgain, you are assuming his wants never change and are forever static. It’s entirely human to want to be friends with someone and then no longer want to be friends with that person. It’s entirely possible that he wanted to be your friend. Then he wanted to be in a relationship. Then he wanted neither. There is no implication in the changing of this dude’s wants and desires that he never really wanted friendship to begin with, because again, wants and desires change. That’s called being human. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 05:50 PM |
| 2 | Girls don't keep orbiters as much as they are just being nice and preventing a guy from getting rapey on them CMVEven if he decided to not pursue the friendship anymore, that STILL doesn’t mean the only reason for his friendship was sex to begin with. Ideals, wants and needs change. And they do quite often. Your idea that he only ever wanted sex presupposes the idea that human wants never change. Your idea assumes humans are not humans with ever changing wants and needs. In other words, it’s entirely possible that he wanted friendship. Then wanted a relationship. Then no longer wanted either. Your idea tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 05:42 PM |
| 5 | Girls don't keep orbiters as much as they are just being nice and preventing a guy from getting rapey on them CMVWhy does waiting for a woman to be single mean the only reason he was friends with you to begin with is to fuck? It’s entirely possible that he liked the friendship for friendship only reasons and then wanted to escalate the friendship once you were technically available to. This idea that those two things are mutually exclusive to so many women is peculiar to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 05:28 PM |
| 2 | CMV: RedPill is a bunch of men sluts complaining about sluts.Okay well if you believe people shouldn’t be degenerate, then you do believe that sluts should change lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 04:06 PM |
| 2 | CMV: RedPill is a bunch of men sluts complaining about sluts.You clearly want them to change if you are denigrating them. Calling them degenerates doesn’t help your claim, unless you believe that people should be degenerate? Should people not be degenerate? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 03:35 PM |
| 5 | CMV: RedPill is a bunch of men sluts complaining about sluts.Why are you moralizing? What’s wrong with wanting to sleep with women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 02:39 PM |
| 6 | CMV: RedPill is a bunch of men sluts complaining about sluts.Does your husband look at porn? If so, he is seeking variety. He’s just simulating it instead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 02:37 PM |
| 2 | Only Competent Women are LTR MaterialWasn’t able to make it to the Xmas party either but I still got the Xmas gifts from the company. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/19 04:00 AM |
| 2 | Makeup is ruining womenOmg nobody is saying all women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/19 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Makeup is ruining womenI mean women do care about pimples lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/19 05:06 PM |
| 1 | Makeup is ruining womenShaving, aftershave, face lotion after cleansing scrub, sunblock etc.. pretty standard. Rest of body is exfoliate and body lotion semi-regularly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/19 05:06 PM |
| 1 | Makeup is ruining womenSo you agree with me that people care about their appearance lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/19 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Makeup is ruining womenThat has nothing to do with whether or not men or women care about their appearance haha Why are you trying to die on the hill that men and women don’t care about their appearance? It’s such a silly argument. There’s a billion dollar fashion and makeup industry. Of course people care about their appearance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/19 04:53 PM |
| 1 | Makeup is ruining womenOkay that’s good for you and I’m happy for you. You still don’t have a point here... Men and women absolutely do care about their appearance | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/19 04:52 PM |
| 0 | Makeup is ruining womenYour appearance doesn’t matter? What is your point here. Both men and women would care about their appearance lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/19 04:47 PM |
| 1 | Makeup is ruining womenNo it’s not like a car salesman at all. A car salesman isn’t using illusion as a tactic like a magician or a makeup artist lol You have full knowledge of a magician using illusion, slight of hand etc.. to make his act look deceptively real. Nevertheless, his act is still deceiving. It’s illusory. Car salesman are not illusory... it would kinda be cool if they were though ha Again, typically speaking, clothing is not providing an illusion. Although an argument can be made that certain clothing do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/19 04:46 PM |
| 1 | Makeup is ruining womenNobody claimed women are obligated to do anything. The question is why would women not care about their appearance? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/19 04:38 PM |
| 2 | Makeup is ruining womenIt’s deceiving unlike clothing. Although some clothing certainly manipulates, conceals or otherwise highlights certain aspects or provides other illusions to appearance. Conventional makeup products are literally called concealers and are used for illusory purposes. It’s deceiving like a good magic trick is. Everyone knows it’s an illusion, but it still appears deceptively real. I think if you strip the moralizing aspect of it, you can come the reasonable opinion that makeup is quite obviously d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/19 04:30 PM |
| 0 | Makeup is ruining womenHis argument is that it’s ruining the their skin right? Why would women not care about that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/19 04:25 PM |
| 2 | What leads to greater inflate or unrealistic expectations: porn and sexual imagery in the media (for men) OR zocial media, online dating, and "access to Chad" (for women)?The idea that women are not hoping for long term when hooking up is wrong. In contrast, a much higher proportion of women (64.5 percent) than men (35 percent) ideally wanted their hookups in general to lead to romantic involvement. Again, the gender difference was even more pronounced when they were asked about their most recent hookup: 60 percent of women versus 13 percent of men said a romantic relationship was the ideal outcome of that sexual encounter. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psycho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/19 11:10 PM |
| 2 | r/femaledatingstrategy posts will be removed until Monday.Their citizens certainly do. Do their governments? I think they have claimed that in the past, but again their definition of “free speech” is just simply different than ours; a definition I don’t think qualifies as free speech. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/19 04:21 PM |
| 2 | r/femaledatingstrategy posts will be removed until Monday.One of my pet peeves is this. If you ban certain ideologies, I don’t believe your country has free speech or can claim that it does. The countries I assume you are referring to also ban the communist party. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Germany#Postwar_history The KDP is also illegal in Germany along with the Nazi party. I will just never support the banning of any political affiliations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/19 05:05 AM |
| 4 | What leads to greater inflate or unrealistic expectations: porn and sexual imagery in the media (for men) OR zocial media, online dating, and "access to Chad" (for women)?This has always been my disagreement with atlas. Social media validation certainly has the capacity or possibility of inflating ones self worth. Not sure why this wouldn’t extend to sleeping with “chad” and then believing oneself worthy of commitment from him. It’s certainly a possibility and I’m not sure why she is so adamant in claiming otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/19 05:00 AM |
| 1 | Does it matter if a woman makes more money than a man?It’s more contingent on what her/his your income is than what childcare costs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/19 02:54 AM |
| 3 | Do Red Pill Liberals Exist?There are a few here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/19 04:18 AM |
| 3 | Do Red Pill Liberals Exist?Hmmm. Are “alpha’s” never mocked into proving the person mocking them wrong? Alphas never fight someone when they are mocked for being a pussy bitch? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/19 01:48 AM |
| 5 | Do Red Pill Liberals Exist?Absolutely. Many reds are “double red” too. Communist and red pilled. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/19 01:45 AM |
| 0 | The three date rule isn’t for everyone.Why not? To your logic it’s obviously behooving of this man to desire (legal) 16-18 year old virgins. Why is that so? This is your logic girl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 09:47 PM |
| 0 | The three date rule isn’t for everyone.Well make her 18. It’s also legal in some states if I’m not mistaken. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 09:45 PM |
| 1 | The three date rule isn’t for everyone.No it doesn’t lol It doesn’t behoove a man to desire a 16 year old virgin to marry just because he’s the kind of guy who wants to marry a 16 year old virgin. You would have to explain why it behooves that guy who desires 16 year old virgins. Is this practical? Is it befitting? Is it suitable? Why does this desire itself behoove him. Do you just not understand words? Or what’s the deal here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 09:40 PM |
| 2 | The three date rule isn’t for everyone.Something merely appealing doesn’t make it behooving. Again, it doesn’t obviously behoove a woman to make a man wait 10 years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 09:27 PM |
| 2 | The three date rule isn’t for everyone.You have to justify something impractical in order for the thing to be warranted. We are talking about if the 10 year rule is justified or warranted. It doesn’t obviously behoove a woman to make a man wait 10 years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 09:21 PM |
| 2 | The three date rule isn’t for everyone.How does wanting to make a man wait 10 obviously behoove her? The fact that someone desires something unconventional, doesn’t mean that thing obviously behooves them lmao You would have to justify something impractical, obviously. Something impractical must be justified and warranted to be befitting. You’re not making any sense. It doesn’t obviously behoove a woman to make man wait 10 years to have sex. Lmao that’s not obvious at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 09:17 PM |
| 2 | The three date rule isn’t for everyone.Justify and warrant them to herself. In other words, does this choice behoove her. Is the choice to make a man wait 10 years practical, suitable, appropriate or befitting. Just because she wants to make a man wait 10 years, doesn’t mean such a desire is practical, suitable, appropriate or befitting. Hence, just because it’s her want, doesn’t make it justified or warranted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 09:11 PM |
| 2 | The three date rule isn’t for everyone.You’ve never given dating advice? I don’t believe you lmao She may have her reasons but again, that doesn’t make them warranted or justified. Not sure what your point is here. “You may be a nazi, but I’m sure you have your reasons for having such an unconventional political philosophy” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 09:07 PM |
| 1 | Men's problems are the fault of men, Women's problems are the fault of societySo you’re just agreeing with me lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Men's problems are the fault of men, Women's problems are the fault of societyYou’re now just agreeing with me that demographics are a certain why because of culture and not just poverty. I told you from the beginning that you are arguing against yourself. Only you are moralizing here assuming I’m calling them greedy fat asses lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 09:00 PM |
| 2 | The three date rule isn’t for everyone.Why would you advise a woman to make a man wait 10 years? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 08:58 PM |
| 2 | The three date rule isn’t for everyone.Nobody said it wasn’t her pussy. Why do you think making the guy you want to marry wait 10 years is a good idea? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 08:53 PM |
| 0 | Men's problems are the fault of men, Women's problems are the fault of societyLmao no. Again, Japan is the nation with lowest levels of obesity. By your logic, the nation with the lowest obesity should be the poorest, but it’s not because it’s Japan. Your insistence on blaming poverty for lack of obesity is just wrong. Richer nations also often have far higher obesity. Kuwait is the forth richest nation in the world and has a far higher obesity rate than the US. Spices are cheap bro. Just because you can’t get over your (not you personally) cultural attachment to unhealth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 08:46 PM |
| 0 | Men's problems are the fault of men, Women's problems are the fault of societyLmao at Afghanistan being your source for why poorer and richer nations have less obesity. Simple fact of the matter is that nations poorer and nations richer than the US have more and less rates of obesity. Blaming this solely on income and poverty is just a massive oversimplification. LMAO at your claim that rice and beans are inaccessible. The fact that you can’t cook your own cheap flavorful healthy food is literally the problem. Dude, you’re almost there to admitting the actual problem all … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 08:35 PM |
| 0 | Men's problems are the fault of men, Women's problems are the fault of societyLol at the fact that you think that in places far poorer than the US, the people prostitute their mothers for food is hilarious. Lmao at your claim that our only choices for low income are instant ramen or McDs. Again, rice and beans is far cheaper than any of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 08:28 PM |
| 4 | Men's problems are the fault of men, Women's problems are the fault of societyYou’re just agreeing with me that’s it’s the culture surrounding food, not necessarily poverty lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 08:25 PM |
| 2 | Men's problems are the fault of men, Women's problems are the fault of societySo you’re agreeing with me that it’s not poverty, but a culture surrounding food? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 08:23 PM |
| 2 | Men's problems are the fault of men, Women's problems are the fault of societyThe cheapest food is rice and beans which they do in fact have access to. I can’t stress enough how poor=obese is such a ridiculously over-simplistic analysis. Japan has the lowest obesity rating of any country. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 08:17 PM |
| 2 | Men's problems are the fault of men, Women's problems are the fault of societyThis is a bullshit answer that dumb libs blather about. There are far, far poorer nations with far lower obesity. Also, some of the richest nations per capita in the world have the highest rates of obesity, like Kuwait which is the forth richest country in the world per capita. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 07:21 PM |
| 1 | The three date rule isn’t for everyone.So you think a woman who wants to make a man wait for 10 years is warranted and justified? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 07:12 PM |
| 1 | The three date rule isn’t for everyone.Then how many days should she make him wait? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 07:04 PM |
| 3 | The three date rule isn’t for everyone.That’s what I know lol men and women move on all the time. So again, why 90 days? Why not 30 or 180? If men will wait years like you claim, then make it 400 days. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 07:00 PM |
| 3 | The three date rule isn’t for everyone.Men will also move on. So making them wait 90 days is arbitrary and doesn’t matter lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 06:41 PM |
| 3 | The three date rule isn’t for everyone.No he won’t lol Why 90 days? Why not 30 or 180? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 06:34 PM |
| 10 | Great Expectations: do you understand how your unreal expectations - projected into people and the world - can’t be met?Black/pinkpill debate? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 03:59 AM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downDid tumblr ban fanfic along with porn? I thought the tumblr erotic community moved to a more sex-positive place or was fractured entirely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 02:44 AM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downLol nice effort | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 01:27 AM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downBruh they do. I literally just proved they do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/19 11:18 PM |
| 1 | If the poly/hyper traits in men and women are biological truths, why are they such tough pills to swallow for so many? Would the world be a better place if we all played by those rules instead of society’s?Moralizing imo. This extends to all hierarchies. Tell a leftist that income inequality is inevitable due to IQ differences. See how they react. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/19 10:18 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downYou can keep hamstering but the simple fact of the matter is that women fetishize wealth lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/19 09:56 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downIt’s one of the most popular erotica genres for women. That hardly supports your claim that women don’t fetishize the concept. Top 10 popular romance tropes: (#1) Friends to Lovers (#2) Soul Mate/Fate (#3) Second Chance at Love (#4) Secret Romance (#5) First Love (#6) Strong Hero/Heroine (#7) Reunited Lovers (#8) Love Triangle (#9) Sexy Billionaire/Millionaire (#10) Sassy Heroine It is a top 10 romantic trope according to the RWA. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/19 09:17 PM |
| 1 | The Red Pill theory is extremely Americanised, and thus not really useful if you are from somewhere else.So not RP. You’re talking about blackpill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/19 06:15 PM |
| 8 | Q4All: When was the last time someone approached youPencil skirts are nice but they show off my bulge too much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/19 05:46 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downSo like I said, you’ve moved your goalposts. Do you have anything else to add? Or another place you have in mind to move them next? Your claim was that women don’t fetishize wealth. Which you seem to have conceded and are now arguing against yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/19 03:45 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downLady it is called moving the goalposts. You claimed that women don’t fetishize wealth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/19 02:47 PM |
| 1 | Seriously: Why should men help women in the workplace when women have never helped men?My company is pushing management to mentor more women. We had a unconscious bias training and everything so that more managers help women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/19 02:39 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downI don’t know what your argument is anymore. First it was that women don’t fetishize wealth. Now you’ve moved your goalposts to erotica being a niche market lol Do you ever argue without using logical fallacies like moving the goalposts? It’s like playing whack a mole. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2773035/amp/We-sex-just-week-76-men-said-watched-pornography-half-women-read-erotic-fiction-s-economy-s-fault.html About 50% of women read erotic fiction. Hardly a niche… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/19 02:23 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downIt’s common enough to be in the best selling genres of erotica. That’s far removed from your claim that it doesn’t happen lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/19 01:00 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downWhere did I say that men and women value the same things? I said it’s possible for men and women to date down in those three measures we spoke of. You’re saying that such a thing is impossible, which is just arguing against math. Men and women can date down in looks, status and education. I’m not sure what you’re point is in arguing against math. You just look silly. Again, dating down simply means dating someone with lower education and status. There’s no reason to gender it. Both men and women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/19 12:51 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downDid you not read the OP? We are talking about dating down in education and income. Which is simply a math equation. Both men and women can date down in looks, status or money. Your logic means that a lesbian relationship can’t date down in either three and is insane. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/19 06:15 AM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downRich ones are still fetishized unlike what you claimed earlier. I never said rich ones are the only ones fetishized. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/19 02:20 AM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downLmao. Hot rich men consistently top the charts for archetypes women fetishize about. Stop hamstering | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/19 12:45 AM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downWhy would you make a claim that women don’t fetishize wealth when the top selling porn for women is literally about fetishizing a billionaire? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/19 12:06 AM |
| 1 | [Q4All] Moving somewhere or joining a large community where the supply of people who would be your competition is lowerDo it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 11:57 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downLmao! What are the top 5 lit erotica books right now? https://www.google.com/search?q=top+lit+erotica+books&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS725US725&oq=top+lit+erotica+books+&aqs=chrome..69i57.3326j0j7&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8 What is number one currently? ‘The Forbidden Billionaire’ is currently sitting at #1. How is it then that women never fetishize wealth? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 11:30 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downA man or a woman who does the same is literally dating down and that’s okay. You are moralizing this about “what a man/woman wants.” Dating down simply means dating someone less educated who makes less money. There is no reason to gender it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 11:30 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downThat’s not a response to my claim. Women don’t fetishize wealth in the erotica they indulge in because they anticipate themselves doing the dishes. Such an implication is hilarious though, thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 11:05 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downYou’re making up definitions of things. It’s clearly laid out in the OP. The generally accepted definition of dating down is dating someone less educated who makes less money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 11:03 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downGonna have to agree to disagree. Women don’t value status because they do housework lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 11:02 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downRead the study lol It discovers that women are refusing to marry because there is a lack of economically attractive bachelors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 10:53 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downWe are talking about dating down in education and income. It’s a math equation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 10:02 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downYou’re just arguing against math | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 09:54 PM |
| 2 | Does it matter if a woman makes more money than a man?I think that’s a reasonable concern. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 09:39 PM |
| 2 | Does it matter if a woman makes more money than a man?Of being a stay at home mom | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 09:37 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downLiterally read the study lol Nobody cares about the women you have met. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 09:36 PM |
| 3 | Does it matter if a woman makes more money than a man?Then don’t be afraid | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 09:33 PM |
| 2 | Does it matter if a woman makes more money than a man?Then don’t be one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 09:32 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downDating down is dating a person with lower education who also makes less money. “Dating down” doesn’t automatically mean you always get a bad deal. Stop with that nonsensical definition. It’s just math. You might date down in looks. And that’s okay too. This OP is talking about education and income. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 09:31 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downI disagree. Women’s complaints about dating men are mainstream. From fear of rape, to nice guys, to not enough eligible bachelors, women’s complaints about dating are ubiquitous and mainstream. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 09:30 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downRead the study? It doesn’t confuse correlation with causation. Women literally chose not to date men with low economic worth. Finance guys have no problem getting married lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 09:29 PM |
| 8 | Does it matter if a woman makes more money than a man?That’s your prerogative. Stay at home moms actively lose money too. Many men date women who lose them money lol At a certain point, wealth has diminishing value. Your happiness won’t increase much from $90M to $100M net worth. It will however, increase significantly from $1M to $10M. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 09:28 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downYou can keep believing that but that is not what the relevant studies show. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 09:25 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downYes she’s contributing in a meaningful and valued way. I am still however more educated and make more money than her. I am still dating down. You are arguing against math. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 09:19 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downAgain, your idea that women want rich husbands because they foresee themselves doing more housework is incorrect. They want luxuries; it has nothing to do with housework. Your idea that women desire high net worth men just because they know they’ll clean dishes is hilarious but incorrect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 09:18 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downI completely reject your assumption that women are willing to date down if men only did more housework and your implication that women date up because they do more housework. They date up because they want a luxurious lifestyle, not because they know they’ll clean more lmao When women dote on a doctor, it’s not because they know his income will make up for the housework. That’s a ridiculous claim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 08:45 PM |
| 4 | Has the shift in average been affected by the rapid rise in obesity among women?Geography | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 08:21 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downWe are literally discussing socioeconomic status. Did you not read the OP or any of my replies? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 08:18 PM |
| 3 | Women need to be willing to date downYou said above that this was your personal experience lol Now you are speaking in averages and not what it means to “date down?” I appreciate you walking back your words but you said before that dating down meant dating a lazy loser, now you are saying that this is true on average? Why do you think that the average stay at home mom is a lazy loser? The husband providing for her is dating down so why would she be a lazy loser? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 08:14 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downHow is that so? My stay at home wife is offering value, yet I am still dating down in socioeconomic status. She literally makes $0 income. It’s just math. You’re arguing against math. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 08:12 PM |
| 25 | Does it matter if a woman makes more money than a man?For some men yeah. But man I wish I had a super rich wife who would bankroll a passion cash negative business. I’d open a video game bar or maybe a scuba diving school or some other bullshit. I highly doubt you are willing to provide for a man though, am I right? Maybe it’s you that’s the problem to some degree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 08:10 PM |
| 2 | [Q4All] Moving somewhere or joining a large community where the supply of people who would be your competition is lowerWhy should you care what women think is morally wrong? People think private property and capitalism is morally wrong. Go without it and see how far that gets you in getting a gf lol To a large degree, you have to stop caring what people think is morally wrong in the dating world. It’s not going to grant you success. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 08:05 PM |
| 2 | Women need to be willing to date downYou’re projecting your experience dating down with everyone else’s. This post is about dating down. University women dating non-university men is just one example of that. University is far easier in many respects than many of the non-University routes. Enlist, go to boot, see active duty, etc... there are many instances where such routes are harder than a bachelors at a state school and your $45k year marketing assistant job. Not sure why you are even claiming otherwise. Again, you are equating… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 07:57 PM |
| 6 | Has the shift in average been affected by the rapid rise in obesity among women?Okay, it’s still in Europe lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 07:51 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downOkay and again just because the wife or gf is making up for it doesn’t mean I’m not dating down lol It’s just math. I make more money. I am dating down in socioeconomic status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 07:49 PM |
| 11 | Has the shift in average been affected by the rapid rise in obesity among women?Lol leaving the EU is not leaving Europe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 07:48 PM |
| 2 | Has the shift in average been affected by the rapid rise in obesity among women?Oh yeah lol did I miss some news? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 07:45 PM |
| 11 | Has the shift in average been affected by the rapid rise in obesity among women?Pretty sure the obesity rate in the UK is comparable, no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 07:44 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downHow so? I was clearly dating down to girls who were less attractive than me and who made far less money. I was objectively dating down in socioeconomic status and oftentimes subjectively in attractiveness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 07:33 PM |
| 2 | Women need to be willing to date downThat’s a silly definition. I’ve dated down many times without having to financially or emotionally support her. I’ve dated down to girls who worked at the gym who did not just sit on her ass all day. Just because I made more money than her, didn’t mean she was a burden to me. When men date down, that doesn’t mean the woman is a burden. Not sure why you are making that implication. What an odd world view you have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 07:30 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/lifestyle/fewer-people-are-getting-married-because-theres-a-shortage-of-economicallystable-single-men-says-study-221607423.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/life-style/dating/marriage-rates-decline-reason-economically-attractive-men-jobs-income-a9098956.html%3Famp They literally are according to many studies: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/jomf.12603 These synthetic husbands have an average income that is a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 07:28 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downAnd the second tier is a larger portion of men who are still dating down in economic status to some extent. And that’s okay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Women need to be willing to date downOkay? Good for those men. Don’t date them. A working and providing husband is inherently “dating down” to his stay at home wife. And that’s okay. You’re probably moralizing here. There’s nothing wrong with dating someone who makes less than you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 07:15 PM |
| 8 | Women need to be willing to date downYou’re literally projecting your personal experience. Again, “dating down” doesn’t mean dating a druggie degenerate. I’ve “dated down” many times. This idea that me dating down means that I’m dating a lazy degenerate is hilariously wrong and sexist. I can tell you from experience that this is not the case. Most men make more money than their wives. Most married men are “dating down.” To your logic, that would mean most women are lazy degenerates. You’re being sexist against women. Also, your ide… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 07:08 PM |
| 2 | Women need to be willing to date downI’m not that man so I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here. Your idea that men don’t date down in income is incorrect. It’s pretty clear they do. Just because women do more housework, doesn’t mean the man is no longer dating down lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 06:52 PM |
| 2 | Women need to be willing to date downWhat research are you looking at? In most marriages, men make more I believe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 06:46 PM |
| 2 | Women need to be willing to date downSo every time a woman “dates down” she is dating an alcoholic lazy degenerate? I knew you were projecting from the start but wheww, that was intense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 06:45 PM |
| 2 | Women need to be willing to date downWomen don’t complain about the lack of eligible men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 06:31 PM |
| 8 | Women need to be willing to date downExplain your implication that dating down means you are dating a loser. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 06:06 PM |
| 2 | How far would you go for a Pump and Dump?Good. I’m on day 3 peloton. Got my 3 day streak achievement lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 05:29 PM |
| 1 | How far would you go for a Pump and Dump?Thanks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 05:27 PM |
| 1 | How far would you go for a Pump and Dump?I’m not accusing you of making this up. I’m asking you to provide evidence of your premise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 04:58 PM |
| 1 | How far would you go for a Pump and Dump?Link something then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 04:55 PM |
| 1 | How far would you go for a Pump and Dump?Yeah, maybe. Although they seem to treat it like it has inherent meaning even before making it FB official or whatever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 02:34 PM |
| 3 | How far would you go for a Pump and Dump?Lol since when does anyone sugarcoat answers here. You’re projecting your lies on everyone else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 02:08 PM |
| 1 | How far would you go for a Pump and Dump?FDS just seems to be about shitposting memes to me. Can you link me the thread where they advise this? I have yet to see a single thread with any consensus advice on anything really. I’ve short term dated girls who only slept with “boyfriends.” If I was into her for sex, why not date her and see how it goes? I don’t invest too much time into it though. The women there and here seem take boyfriend-girlfriend label so obnoxiously seriously. It’s really not a big deal. It’s kind of funny that peopl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 01:59 PM |
| 1 | RP Men of this sub: Are you actually successful and/or experienced romantically and sexually?https://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/e8i2td/does_being_a_promiscuous_man_get_unfairly/fadla4m/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/19 04:19 PM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (08 December 2019)Homo 😘 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/19 02:54 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (08 December 2019)Rich with love for you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/19 01:25 PM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (08 December 2019)Ironically, I’ve discovered that the peloton is inherently sexist against men. The seat padding is way too firm. Hurts me nuts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/19 03:36 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (08 December 2019)Thanks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/19 03:17 AM |
| 4 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (08 December 2019)I got it for her but I’m trying it out too. The handcuffs they come with are too small for men though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/19 03:16 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (08 December 2019)No VR but you can definitely creep on the girls by following their profiles. Some people upload profile pics to their peloton accounts so you can see what they look like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/19 03:15 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (08 December 2019)Yes. You choose either a pre-recorded class or a live one. The live ones are only filmed in the morning though from what I saw. You can high-five people taking the class at the same time and can see yourself on the leaderboard to see how you are training relative to the other people taking the class at the same time as you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/19 02:50 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (08 December 2019)https://imgur.com/a/XEDzbLa I am doing a 14 day trial of peloton AMA | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/19 02:33 AM |
| 4 | [CMV] Social Media is to Women what Pornography is to Men.https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0306460316301095 Addictive use of social media was associated with being young, female and single. It’s morally okay that addictive use of social media is associated with women. That doesn’t make women bad people. I’m not sure what the point is in denying the association exists. Video game addiction and porn addiction is similarly associated with men. We have to accept the facts as a prerequisite to generating solutions or even discussing th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/19 08:25 PM |
| 2 | [CMV] Social Media is to Women what Pornography is to Men.What makes you think the gendered split is 50/50 to make this issue “not gendered.” We have the stats for usage rates of social media by gender. It’s not 50/50 lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/19 08:15 PM |
| 1 | [CMV] Social Media is to Women what Pornography is to Men.Girls don’t need to be famous to be vain online lol that’s where the difference lies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/19 07:50 PM |
| 4 | [CMV] Social Media is to Women what Pornography is to Men.You have to be blind to imply that social media addiction and online validation seeking is not gendered whatsoever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/19 07:06 PM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (08 December 2019)Fun | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/19 06:27 PM |
| 1 | RP Men of this sub: Are you actually successful and/or experienced romantically and sexually?I said I’d send you the links as I’d come across them considering you said you’ve never witnessed this attitude from women. You don’t see a lot of shaming because you’ve never been this man lol I’m not sure why you have to bring up the oppression Olympics over this. I said this attitude from women is what convinces many men that “nice guys” are the type of guys who don’t use women for sex. Whether or not women also feel slut shamed is besides the point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/19 05:28 AM |
| 1 | RP Men of this sub: Are you actually successful and/or experienced romantically and sexually?Why would you even claim that women don’t call this behavior assholish? Where did you get the idea what women are oh so okay with men wanting to use them for their bodies? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/19 02:20 AM |
| 1 | RP Men of this sub: Are you actually successful and/or experienced romantically and sexually?I know the OP wasn’t trying to guilt him. That doesn’t stop OTHER women from calling men who just want sex assholes. Like my claim above states, many women consider this desire asshole behavior. They are not all sex-positive women out there who don’t denigrate the men who only want sex. You live in a just world fallacy. Heck 50% of women are pro-life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/19 02:01 AM |
| 1 | RP Men of this sub: Are you actually successful and/or experienced romantically and sexually?I’m going to link you every time I see someone call a man an asshole for simply not wanting to commit. https://www.reddit.com/r/datingoverthirty/comments/e6u7yw/the_end_of_a_yearlong_nothing_situationship_hurts/f9td0nd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Here is the first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/19 08:15 PM |
| 3 | Before finding out about RP, have you ever thought about casual sex distribution?Well I don’t subscribe to that definition of Pareto. I will however, entertain your definition because I’m a nice guy. The idea that women have particular tastes doesn’t prove that women find more than 20% of men attractive. Pareto is solely about sex to me btw. I don’t think anyone but incels would claim that only 20% of men are attractive. Is there a specific user you are arguing against who said this? Can you link the comment? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/19 05:24 PM |
| 3 | Why are women sexually attracted to such a small proportion of men?Why are you moralizing? He never said it was bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/19 03:57 PM |
| 1 | Before finding out about RP, have you ever thought about casual sex distribution?What do you define as the 20% rule? Be as specific as possible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/19 03:52 PM |
| 8 | Before finding out about RP, have you ever thought about casual sex distribution?Your implication is odd to me. Just because no one is liked by everyone, doesn’t prove the sex distribution is equal. Chad is often actively disliked by multiple women, even the ones who sleep with him. How does that suggest an uneven sex distribution is false? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/19 03:44 PM |
| 23 | Before finding out about RP, have you ever thought about casual sex distribution?I stopped trusting girls who claimed they disliked those types of men. Especially if they shamed him for “only wanting one thing” or being “arrogant.” I don’t think girls and women in general realize they are slut shaming when they do this. Nor do I think they realize they are contributing to the “nice guy” phenomenon. They call men who only want sex assholes and then other guys sit there wondering why only assholes seem to get sex lol I don’t really know what you are saying though. It appears y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/19 03:13 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianI mean there are people in this thread who appear to care lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/19 12:56 AM |
| 1 | RP Men of this sub: Are you actually successful and/or experienced romantically and sexually?Slut shaming is different than calling a dude an asshole because he only wants one thing. I don’t suspect you’ve ever witnessed being a man called an asshole because all he wants is sex lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/19 12:52 AM |
| 1 | RP Men of this sub: Are you actually successful and/or experienced romantically and sexually?I’m not solely talking about shame. I’m not sure why you would anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/19 12:04 AM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianYou’ve already answered multiple questions. So why would I not think you’re interested in expanding on classism? How can I support the status quo of a classist society by advertising my products without being classist? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 10:30 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianAnd ones of lower price points? How about a $1,000 stationary bike? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 10:28 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianYou can’t seem to answer multiple questions so I’m splitting this convo up. Again, how is it possible to not be classist if advertising perpetuates and supports the very system you consider classist? How can I support the status quo of a classist society by advertising my products without being classist? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 10:05 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianI am trying to get at what degree you consider unacceptable. So where do you draw the line? At what price point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 10:03 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianYou already said the ones that advertise the products that certain people can’t afford. Which is literally all of them lol Again, how is it possible to not be classist if advertising perpetuates and supports the very system you consider classist? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 10:00 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianI am not misreading your comments at all. You already said “sure” and agreed with them. If the world is structured to be classist, how are advertisements which seek to perpetuate these capitalist structures, not classist? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 09:46 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianSo you see, you do think that it is all classist lol I don’t think the degree is greater than the jewelry advertising $20k solitaries or luxury car commercials. Obviously something more is going on here with peloton beyond advertising premium stationary bikes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 09:42 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianYou are saying that. You said it’s how this world is structured, but even before that, you claimed it was classist because there are people who see this ad who can’t afford the product. But that goes for all ads. If this world is structured classist, how is marketing and advertising which seeks to continue such a structure not classist? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 09:30 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianYou said arguably, but then you said it was in your personal opinion. So everything about the world is classist including all advertisements, which you first rejected, but now accept? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 09:26 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianWe can discuss whether or not the commercial missed its mark, but that’s moving the goalposts on whether or not it’s discriminatory. I’m not accusing you of being mad, so please stop saying you’re not mad about it lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 09:22 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianIncome equality doesn’t make luxury goods being advertised classist. Discrimination is classist. Not sure how advertisements are discriminatory. Your logic doesn’t make sense. You’re saying it’s classist because it is being advertised to people who can’t afford the item. But that goes for any item because there exists people who can’t afford anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 09:12 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianYou haven’t explained why that would mean it is classist. To your logic, every advertisement is classist because there exists people who can’t afford any of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 09:05 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianNo, you haven’t explained why seeing an ad for a product you can’t afford is classist lol Your implication means that all advertisements are classist considering there are people in the world who can’t afford any of it. So what makes the peloton one so classist? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 09:00 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianTone deaf and classist are two different things. So if someone sees an ad for a product they can’t afford then that’s “classist?” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 08:57 PM |
| 1 | RP Men of this sub: Are you actually successful and/or experienced romantically and sexually?I agree it would be nice for men to seek only one thing from women without being shamed for it. That’s just not reality. Expecting a young man to not want to settle is irrelevant to whether or not he is shamed for wanting women for only one thing. It’s not shaming though, it’s also women calling men “nice guys” for NOT wanting women solely for sex. If you don’t see this then I can’t help you. I think this attitude is quite ubiquitous. You’re gripping to a just world fallacy where men are never s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianWhy is it classist to market towards any specific class? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 08:49 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianHuehuehue | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 08:49 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianDo you think it’s classist? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 08:43 PM |
| 2 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianIs it classism to market to a market that can afford the equipment? Is it racist to market anything to any specific race? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 08:40 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianYou can keep lying to yourself that those are large breasts. Nobody is going to buy it tomorrow lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 08:38 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianLook at the link I’ve given you of her size. The primary reason men like fat women is because of their large breasts imo lol Her breasts are not large. They are pretty pro proportional to her body. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 08:25 PM |
| -1 | Men consistently overestimate things across multiple subjects and dimensions.Ehhhh I don’t know if I can hunt this boar honey. I’m just not sure about it. Looks like we’re going to starve this winter. Sorry. Seriously though, what’s the implication being made here? That men shouldn’t be this way? The implication seems to be that men are somehow defective for being confident and women are inferior for not believing in themselves enough? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 08:10 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianHehhe they are not large | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianThose pics are NOT of large breasts. Just admit defeat lmao Nobody is saying they are small. I’m saying they are not large like you are claiming all these Victoria secret models are. I’m going to write an post for you tomorrow. Ask only women if a few tits are large. We’ll see. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 07:57 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianHer no, look at the pic. Those aren’t large breasts. We know her measurements too. Some of the others, if you took their height and weight and measured it relative to her bust, then she would have proportionally large breasts. But that’s like saying a midget’s 3” penis is a large penis lmao Nobody speaks of the size of genitals relative to their hip size or height like that. They don’t have large breasts LKF, we know their dimensions. https://marriedbiography.com/behati-prinsloo-biography/ Her b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 07:49 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianLol we know the literal dimensions of these models. The pictures prove my point. They don’t really have large breasts. Or any larger than the average woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 07:22 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and Dystopianhttps://marriedbiography.com/behati-prinsloo-biography/ These aren’t large breasts lol She might have big nips though. Who knows. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 07:19 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianWe know the dimensions of these women lol they rarely exceed D. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 07:08 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and Dystopianhttps://vicsecret-angels.tumblr.com/Angelfacts Do most of these models have breasts bigger than DD like you claimed? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianWhy do you want to be wrong about this? Their breasts are smaller than the average population. https://vicsecret-angels.tumblr.com/Angelfacts We know the dimensions of these models. Their sizes are public knowledge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 06:51 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianSo then Victoria secret models have breasts smaller than the population. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 06:48 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianSo then Victoria secrets models have small breasts relative to the population. Many of those women have breasts smaller than DD. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 06:46 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianThat’s hardly a reason to single out the ad though. Seems to be a justification post-hoc, after being upset over sexism. The fact that an ad is poorly written is par for the course. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 06:42 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianWhat are you defining as large here? https://www.businessorpleasure.online/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/8f9a4b8bc0fd93a101e87d9b0f266e65.jpg Perky and fit, sure but those aren’t women with large breasts. They look fairly average in cup size to me. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.medicaldaily.com/average-bra-size-america-plus-4-other-breast-size-facts-you-may-not-have-known-365516%3Famp%3D1 34DD is the average American bra size. So in fact, those women have small breasts relative to American women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 06:39 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianThe one on the right, no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 06:32 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianMeh, not all those models have large breasts. Many of the catwalk Victoria secret models don’t. https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018108/rs_1024x759-181108173024-1024-vs.jpg?fit=inside%7C900:auto&output-quality=90 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianDo it! But I disagree. There seems to be fierce debate on this specific ad, much like the Gillette one. I don’t think it’s manufactured by the media, it is certainly highlighted and perpetuated though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 06:23 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianTrue. I never claimed there was no debate on the issue or that all was lost though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 05:55 PM |
| 2 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianIt’s the screen with live trainers. The bikes are nice but really no different than any other premium stationary bike. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 05:34 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and Dystopianhttps://twitter.com/SlipandFallsLaw/status/1202273463483977728?s=20 I believe many of the responses constitute outrage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 05:27 PM |
| 2 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianTwitter feminists live in a perpetual state of outrage lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 05:19 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianHmm we’ll just have to disagree that the responses do not constitute outrage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 05:12 PM |
| 3 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianI think discussing the outrage of an ad that supposedly promotes sexist dynamics towards your wife is fair game for the sub. Further discussing how and why this attitude is prevalent in our relationships is obviously relevant to the sub. Far more relevant to this sub than what constitutes a strong female Hollywood character IMO. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/e6a8m7/whats_your_idea_for_a_strong_female_movie/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 05:06 PM |
| 2 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianI posted my thoughts on the outrage and outrage culture in general . That certainly has something to do with the article. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 04:59 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianDid I say that was in the article? That is my interpretation of the culture responsible for this outrage culture. The outrage is indicative of a wider cultural issue that spans beyond peloton ads. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 04:51 PM |
| 2 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianOkay we just disagree about what constitutes online outrage. I believe the response to the ad is even if the NYT does a poor job giving examples of the online response. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 04:34 PM |
| 2 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianThe article discusses how the ad was criticized for being sexist and classist in various social media outlets. If that’s not “outrage” to you, then that’s fine, we just disagree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 04:27 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianEveryone can read your argument above that states as long as people don’t break laws then you should just tune them out lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 04:16 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianOh I see what you mean. The article is about the online outrage. I think the article itself maintains a fairly neutral stance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 04:13 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianYour argument is literally that as long as they don’t break any laws, then you should tune them out. I am saying that’s a poor argument for various reasons. You want proof that people are less willing to compromise for their SO’s these days? I think that’s a reasonable conclusion tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 04:13 PM |
| 3 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianJust because you are not outraged doesn’t mean others are not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 04:06 PM |
| 2 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianWrestling is indeed fun. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 04:05 PM |
| 2 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianCome on that doesn’t make sense. It’s entirely reasonable to argue the validity of race supremacy or communists. The idea that as long as they break no laws means therefore, you should tune out any debate or discussion surrounding those ideas is nonsensical. Come on poppy, even you don’t believe that. I do think that both men and women have ‘cel’ like culture brewing that this outrage is indicative of. There’s certainly a message that one should never compromise for their SO for instance that a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 04:04 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianYes. That’s the point of the NYT article. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 03:56 PM |
| 2 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianI don’t think anyone is arguing they don’t have the right to express their opinions. Nor do I believe I am outraged by them. I think this discussion has been a pretty level-headed analysis of the validity of their complaints. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 03:54 PM |
| 3 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianThe outrage towards the peloton ad suggests this. Why do you think it’s been decried as sexist and classist? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 03:51 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianI love coaching wrestling. Working out is absolutely fun. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 03:50 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianThis isn’t an argument on whether or not you should listen or believe them though. It’s speaking of the validity of their complaints. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 03:49 PM |
| 1 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianWhy do you think it’s been labeled as sexist and classist? Okay, so you agree that there is a target audience now? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 03:45 PM |
| 3 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianIdk poppy, when their outrage appears in major news outlets, I think it is more indicative than merely the ramblings of a randos. I appreciate your optimism though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 03:44 PM |
| 2 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianIt feels like this outrage culture is essentially telling women to be useless. Don't exercise, don't cook, don't be nice, never admit you are wrong, never compromise and divorce him the moment you are unhappy. Is that an unreasonable interpretation of this prevalent attitude? Why have we got here? It’s not me personally, but how men are experiencing the dating scene and women’s attitudes towards them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 03:35 PM |
| 24 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianIf they used a fat woman, there would’ve been an even greater outrage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 03:16 PM |
| 13 | Peloton Ad Is Criticized as Sexist and DystopianI do not see how it is “sexist” and “classist” because she wasn’t obese to begin with. I’m also not so sure using a fat woman would’ve been the best commercial. I think it would cause even more of an outrage. It’s a real narrative to people with money and good looking wives can relate to. Her fitness journey is just not about getting losing weight. I’m fit, but I try to continually improve my stationary bike times, leg muscles, heart rate etc... only obese people think fitness is solely about lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 03:11 PM |
| 1 | RP Men of this sub: Are you actually successful and/or experienced romantically and sexually?I’m not at all. You can continue to believe we live in a paradise where men aren’t shamed for only solely wanting sex or “only wanting one thing” but we don’t. I’m not sure of your motivation for grasping ahold of a just world fallacy so tightly. Can you explain it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 12:58 PM |
| 1 | The myth of the absent/deadbeat dad.I’m not sure why that would matter or why it would be embarrassing to sue in order to receive what you are owed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 03:23 AM |
| 1 | The myth of the absent/deadbeat dad.Okay I never said such a thing was impossible. Not sure what you are trying to say here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 03:22 AM |
| 1 | The myth of the absent/deadbeat dad.Doesn’t sound very wholesome to me lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 03:13 AM |
| 1 | [Q4W] how come jerking to porn "damages" male brains but high N-count doesn't "damage" female brains?True | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 03:12 AM |
| 2 | [Q4W] how come jerking to porn "damages" male brains but high N-count doesn't "damage" female brains?Whether or not those women are damaged is besides the point, really. There’s a plethora of them in the casual sex scene. Submissive fantasies are certainly the most popular. Far more popular than dominant fantasies for men last time I’ve seen numbers on it if I remember correctly. I’ve read research that stated women with sexually abuse trauma have the highest rate of rape fantasies. And that trauma is not solely credited to childhood trauma. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 02:43 AM |
| 2 | [Q4W] how come jerking to porn "damages" male brains but high N-count doesn't "damage" female brains?So we don’t disagree at all lol And to your BDSM-y point, plenty of women like that shit. I don’t feel it’s appropriate or accurate to solely blame men for the idea that women like that kind of play. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 01:22 AM |
| 1 | The myth of the absent/deadbeat dad.I said that present fathers are correlated to their socioeconomic status. You really need the data on the fact that poor men are more likely to be absent fathers? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 01:14 AM |
| 1 | The myth of the absent/deadbeat dad.You really need stats on how dead beat dads are negatively correlated to socio economic status? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 01:09 AM |
| 1 | RP Men of this sub: Are you actually successful and/or experienced romantically and sexually?Okay? The fact they want LTRs while the men do not doesn’t negate the fact that the women call those dudes assholes. You have no point here. Simple fact of the matter is that men who “only want one thing” are often considered assholes. It’s not universal in fact, you just admitted yourself above it’s not universal lol And that is approaching women. You can and do oftentimes approach and escalate with women online. Not sure why approaching a woman online and initiating contact doesn’t count as ap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 12:56 AM |
| 1 | The myth of the absent/deadbeat dad.Suing someone for things you are entitled to is hardly embarrassing. This kind of attitude is why Jews are richer. Be more Jewish what’s wrong you with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 11:31 PM |
| 1 | The myth of the absent/deadbeat dad.I mean that may be true but is also less statistically likely than an uneducated poor man. It’s just statistics and math at this point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 10:29 PM |
| 1 | [Q4W] how come jerking to porn "damages" male brains but high N-count doesn't "damage" female brains?That’s my point. It’s not the porn specifically as well. The mere sight of female nipples is not what is damaging to these men. Porn can be damaging for reasons beyond merely the sight of nipples lol Do you see how we are agreeing here? My focus is on other factors, not on the sex. The psychological distress from rape is not merely from a penis entering the vagina. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 10:23 PM |
| 3 | RP Men of this sub: Are you actually successful and/or experienced romantically and sexually?You may have sought men who only wanted sex in the past but that doesn’t negate the fact that many women consider men who only want sex to be assholes. Your mistake here is assuming all women have the same definition of what makes a man nice and what makes him an asshole. And you’re doing what the user is doing above in assuming you are the sole arbiter of what makes a man an asshole. Your last paragraph there is exactly what I’m talking about. I’ve straight up asked women for sex on online dati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 10:20 PM |
| 1 | The myth of the absent/deadbeat dad.Nothing can be guaranteed for certain but I think there is a clear difference between a responsible wholesome man and a gangbanger and their propensity to be present and supporting fathers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 10:15 PM |
| 1 | [Q4W] how come jerking to porn "damages" male brains but high N-count doesn't "damage" female brains?I agree that two healthy people can have casual sex without problems. I simply disagree that consensual sex never carries the possibility of harm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 10:07 PM |
| 1 | [Q4W] how come jerking to porn "damages" male brains but high N-count doesn't "damage" female brains?Okay fair enough. I think we agree here unless you have anything that refutes my point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 09:52 PM |
| 1 | [Q4W] how come jerking to porn "damages" male brains but high N-count doesn't "damage" female brains?That’s victim blaming. I don’t think it’s necessarily her fault that she has trust problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 09:35 PM |
| 2 | [Q4W] how come jerking to porn "damages" male brains but high N-count doesn't "damage" female brains?Yeah that’s a good write up but I still don’t think that only non-normal unhealthy people have mental distress from previous consensual relationships. If a woman were lied to 10 times and were pumped and dumped, I think that could negatively impact her ability to trust. If a man was “divorce raped” (hate that word tbh) he could similarly be negatively impacted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 09:08 PM |
| 2 | [Q4W] how come jerking to porn "damages" male brains but high N-count doesn't "damage" female brains?Yes I agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 08:56 PM |
| 2 | RP Men of this sub: Are you actually successful and/or experienced romantically and sexually?Lol yeah. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 08:45 PM |
| 3 | What sort of strategies to get laid are immoral or unfair?I’ve been accused of pretending to care when only wanting sex, but that seemed to have been because women misinterpret the things I did as evidence I wanted something serious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 08:22 PM |
| 3 | RP Men of this sub: Are you actually successful and/or experienced romantically and sexually?I never claimed they did in the aggregate. However, there are many girls who are into something purely casual and very much do want a FWB or a ONS with a man only looking for sex. You’re just proving my point now. There’s nothing “asshole” about just wanting casual sex, but many women (and yourself it seems) claim otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 08:10 PM |
| 4 | RP Men of this sub: Are you actually successful and/or experienced romantically and sexually?The problem here is that you are not the sole arbiter of what makes a man an “asshole.” Many women consider the men who simply only want sex to be “assholes.” Plenty of “nice guys” exist who never get angry when rejected. These nice guys are certainly comparing themselves to these “assholes” and wondering why they are not getting laid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 08:06 PM |
| 2 | RP Men of this sub: Are you actually successful and/or experienced romantically and sexually?What exactly do you object to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 07:56 PM |
| 4 | The myth of the absent/deadbeat dad.Where have you seen it stated that absent dads are a myth? I’ve seen blaming women for choosing these men but I’ve never seen someone state such men are a myth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 07:21 PM |
| 2 | [Q4W] how come jerking to porn "damages" male brains but high N-count doesn't "damage" female brains?No not at all? I’m not equating the two. I’m saying that sex carries this possibility. Especially with non-consensual sex, but also with consensual. I think people can carry baggage from previous relationships, even consensual ones. A woman who was lied to 10 times and pumped and dumped may carry some baggage and trust issues. If you believe that rape carries the possibility of psychological distress, then I’m not sure why consensual sex could never carry this possibility. Many people have been … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 06:33 PM |
| 1 | RP Men of this sub: Are you actually successful and/or experienced romantically and sexually?True lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 05:52 PM |
| 2 | RP Men of this sub: Are you actually successful and/or experienced romantically and sexually?There are indeed plenty of cringey stuff that turn off most women. Some of this stuff women advise themselves. https://mobile.twitter.com/suzannahweiss/status/1201642800418156544 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 05:46 PM |
| 1 | [Q4W] how come jerking to porn "damages" male brains but high N-count doesn't "damage" female brains?When did I say that casual sex doesn’t affect men negatively? I think both casual sex and porn have the capability to damage both men and women. People are often damaged by their previous relationships even if they were consensual. A woman who had 10 guys lie to her just to get in her pants will just have a different attitudes towards men than her counterpart who did not have that happen to her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 05:38 PM |
| 1 | [Q4W] how come jerking to porn "damages" male brains but high N-count doesn't "damage" female brains?Can you reword that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 05:34 PM |
| 7 | RP Men of this sub: Are you actually successful and/or experienced romantically and sexually?When women tell men not to sexualize other women, I think they honestly think they are stopping the man who screams ‘NICE ASS’ out his car window as he drives by. What she is actually doing is stopping a naive young boy from telling her a girl she has a cute butt in the club. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 05:34 PM |
| 2 | RP Men of this sub: Are you actually successful and/or experienced romantically and sexually?Ty | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 05:27 PM |
| 6 | RP Men of this sub: Are you actually successful and/or experienced romantically and sexually?That’s the point. The stuff like approaching women in the grocery store or the gym rarely works and is often advised against by many women, and is furthermore called asshole behavior by a non-zero amount of women. Nevertheless, I met my gf by approaching her at the gym. And I’ve met previous girls at Whole Foods lol The same men who are called assholes are the ones not afraid to approach and initiate and face rejection. It’s women, in my opinion, who have incorrectly defined ‘asshole men’ and na… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 05:16 PM |
| 8 | RP Men of this sub: Are you actually successful and/or experienced romantically and sexually?It is heavily dependent on the woman. Ive seen women seething online about how men shouldn’t approach women on the subway or at the grocery store. To a large degree, you just can’t listen to women about what defines a nice man or a man who is an “asshole.” It’s not like women are going to clarify that “nice men” are actually the very attractive wealthy men who approach me, not stinky you who did the same exact approach lol They are just going to continue saying “you’re such a nice guy, you will … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 05:08 PM |
| 37 | RP Men of this sub: Are you actually successful and/or experienced romantically and sexually?I’m pretty experienced and successful. I live a pretty fun life and have a great Gf who I love immensely. My problem when I was younger was that I would go all soft and beta after I initially gained a woman’s favor. I also believed women when they said I was a nice guy for not inconveniencing women with sexual passes or not only wanting sex. When in actuality, this just left me leaving chips on the table. Logically, there is nothing inherently wrong with only wanting women for sex, but I have wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 04:21 PM |
| 3 | [Q4W] how come jerking to porn "damages" male brains but high N-count doesn't "damage" female brains?I think I’ve been crystal clear on how it is possible for sex with 12 different men can have different mental outcomes than sex with 1 man 12 times. Your idea that consensual relationships can never cause mental distress is just incorrect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 04:00 PM |
| 2 | [Q4W] how come jerking to porn "damages" male brains but high N-count doesn't "damage" female brains?I’m trying to understand why you spin this idea that consensual sex can never cause mental distress. Seems like a silly hill to die on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 03:55 PM |
| 2 | [Q4W] how come jerking to porn "damages" male brains but high N-count doesn't "damage" female brains?If you don’t want to expand on your logic then that’s fine. I think I clearly explained to you how having sex with 12 different men MAY cause different outcomes than having sex with 1 man 12 times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 03:52 PM |
| 0 | [Q4W] how come jerking to porn "damages" male brains but high N-count doesn't "damage" female brains?Yes, to get you to admit that sex can indeed cause mental damage. Your opinion is that sex cannot damage a persons psyche. I am saying this is incorrect even when talking solely about consensual sex. The idea that it is impossible for people to have baggage from being promiscuous is just false. Whether that is mental or physical, the possibility remains for people to have baggage from past consensual relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 03:48 PM |
| 2 | [Q4W] how come jerking to porn "damages" male brains but high N-count doesn't "damage" female brains?What do you mean? Explain your logic here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 03:46 PM |
| 2 | [Q4W] how come jerking to porn "damages" male brains but high N-count doesn't "damage" female brains?I think it’s important to note because it instantly gets you to admit that sex carries the possibility to damage people. It gets you to back off from the ideological edge that sex could never carry this possibility. Now to get you to back off further, I will claim that even consensual relationships carry the possibility of leaving people with baggage. I’m not sure how this is controversial to you. It seems it would only be controversial to an ideologue desperately trying to defend the idea that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 03:44 PM |
| 1 | [Q4W] how come jerking to porn "damages" male brains but high N-count doesn't "damage" female brains?Just like the damage porn can cause is not literally about seeing a woman’s nipple, the damage sex can cause is not literally about how many times a penis enters a vagina. The reason both porn and sex CAN cause “damage” is the obsession of it or the negative effects one may have pursuing these. Your idea that even a consensual sex has ZERO possibility to inflict psychological distress is just incorrect. Lots of men and women carry baggage from previous consensual relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 03:41 PM |
| 3 | [Q4W] how come jerking to porn "damages" male brains but high N-count doesn't "damage" female brains?If rape has the ability to cause brain damage, I’m not sure how consensual sex cannot carry this ability. Maybe 12 men lied to her and pumped and dumped her. The idea that a purely consensual relationship can NEVER cause PTSD or similar psychological disorders is incorrect, right? It surely has that possibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 03:29 PM |
| 2 | [Q4W] how come jerking to porn "damages" male brains but high N-count doesn't "damage" female brains?Depends what kind of sex it is. Was she raped? I have all the sympathy for sexual abuse victims but that shit absolutely has the capability of damaging a woman’s brain. Was she pumped and dumped 12 times? Maybe she is now even slightly jaded about men and dating. Now that’s not “brain damage”, like an abuse victim may show, but it is still not ideal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 03:26 PM |
| 15 | [Q4W] how come jerking to porn "damages" male brains but high N-count doesn't "damage" female brains?So it’s not porn, it’s masturbation techniques? Would this logic extend to massive dildos and vagina blaster 9000s? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 03:14 PM |
| 1 | Women watch more porn than conventional wisdom suggests.Good guess | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 04:25 AM |
| 1 | Women watch more porn than conventional wisdom suggests.Yes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 02:50 AM |
| 2 | Women watch more porn than conventional wisdom suggests.I knew plenty of women who were regular sexting partners. I assume they were doing it in leu of porn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 02:49 AM |
| 8 | Women watch more porn than conventional wisdom suggests.I found it interesting that female pornhub viewership is lowest in Germany and highest in the Philippines. I would immediately assume it would be the other way around. I remember reading that most of the porn women consume is erotica, so I don’t believe comparing pornhub users has any real utility in discussing the frequency of porn usage between the genders. It’s going to give you incorrect conclusions if a statistically significant portion of women prefer erotica over video, which they almost … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 02:09 AM |
| 5 | To those who hate current dating scene, what prevented you from finding a significant other earlier in your life? Why did you not find someone in your social circle?This is such a weird OP with odd implications. Both men and women hate the current dating scene and had various exes throughout their lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 12:31 AM |
| 2 | Summary of r/TheRedPill vs. r/FemaleDatingStrategyIs there a sidebar for FDS? It seems to be mostly memes and YAAASS QWEEEEN comments. I can’t gain a clear understanding of what is and what isn’t FDS approved strategy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/19 08:45 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: What percentage of women do you actually find attractive?I can’t answer your question if your definition of attractive is nonsensical. There are women I find attractive who I would never pursue. Your idea that attractive = willing to pursue is nonsensical. So what do you actually mean by finding someone “attractive” ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/19 08:36 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: What percentage of women do you actually find attractive?Don’t get so offended over asking for clarification and identifying your logic as nonsensical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/19 08:32 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: What percentage of women do you actually find attractive?Or you could clarify what you mean and be logical about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/19 08:28 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: What percentage of women do you actually find attractive?I think my mother is an attractive older woman lol I find many women in my office attractive too. I would never pursue my mother lol nor would I pursue many of the women in the office, despite finding them attractive. Why would you define finding a woman “attractive” to mean willing to pursue them for a relationship or casual? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/19 08:11 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: What percentage of women do you actually find attractive?As I suspected, this is a very odd way to define “attractive.” I find plenty of women attractive who I would NEVER pursue for a relationship or casual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/19 08:03 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: What percentage of women do you actually find attractive?Attractive enough for what? When you ask women “how many men do you find attractive” I suspect they interpret that as how many men would they consider dating. Lots of women are attractive enough to me for various things lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/19 07:54 PM |
| 1 | A Review of Research on Women’s Use of Violence With Male Intimate PartnersKnowing the truth will always have utility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/19 01:07 PM |
| 1 | A Review of Research on Women’s Use of Violence With Male Intimate PartnersAre you too dumb to read the research paper and understand that it’s not merely self-reported and these studies have been further replicated? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/19 05:10 AM |
| 1 | A Review of Research on Women’s Use of Violence With Male Intimate PartnersThe research paper is sourced from about 100 different studies. Try again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/19 04:26 AM |
| 1 | Study: Women less attracted to their husband when their estrogens levels are highest.Well that’s the question I’m asking lol I’m wondering how women I’ve been with would’ve behaved differently, including sexually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/19 09:45 PM |
| 1 | Study: Women less attracted to their husband when their estrogens levels are highest.Yeah not sure either. I’m assuming behaviors would certainly be different, even beyond the sexual aspect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/19 09:38 PM |
| 2 | A Review of Research on Women’s Use of Violence With Male Intimate PartnersThis is a research paper on multiple studies which replicated similar findings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/19 09:21 PM |
| 3 | A Review of Research on Women’s Use of Violence With Male Intimate PartnersThis is a research paper of all the current studies we have on the topic from 2008. The studies referenced range mostly within the years between 2000 and 2008. If you open the study, it is merely discovered that the women who report being violent are often the victims themselves too. It’s not that they are necessarily defending themselves in each instance of violence, but that they are in mutually violent relationships. It is then suggested that it is possible that some of these women are defend… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/19 08:56 PM |
| 4 | Study: Women less attracted to their husband when their estrogens levels are highest.I’ve always wondered how differently my relationships with various women would’ve been if they didn’t jack themselves full of hormones every day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/19 08:44 PM |
| 1 | Women and their rape fantasies - All the articles are written by women, for women.Agree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/19 08:33 PM |
| 3 | So the OkCupid data is wrong, yet the Tinder CEO said women swipe right 14 percent of the time whole men do 46 percent of the time.Because they did it 14/100 times? Look, out of the 14 right swipes, maybe one or two of those right swipes were men they found unattractive but had other redeeming qualities such as: a house, a nice car, maybe he had a pic of him on a yacht, or maybe she just thought his dog was cute. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/19 08:01 PM |
| 0 | So the OkCupid data is wrong, yet the Tinder CEO said women swipe right 14 percent of the time whole men do 46 percent of the time.They are swiping right on men they don’t find attractive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/19 07:51 PM |
| 1 | So the OkCupid data is wrong, yet the Tinder CEO said women swipe right 14 percent of the time whole men do 46 percent of the time.I’m not sure what you are trying to argue. The tinder and OKC data match. Women are just marginally more likely to message men they find unattractive for various reasons. Could be a single-mom looking for a bailout for instance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/19 07:44 PM |
| 2 | Women and their rape fantasies - All the articles are written by women, for women.What I find interesting about the whole rape fantasy topic is that feminists are actually more inclined to have rape fantasies. Also of interests is that there seems to be ideological framework to defend or justify these fantasies as sex-positivity but it certainly doesn’t work the other way around. Not sure if these same women would ever defend a man with rape fantasies even if he only practiced CNC. It seems to be a fantasy that’s only supported going one direction and not the other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/19 07:41 PM |
| 11 | So the OkCupid data is wrong, yet the Tinder CEO said women swipe right 14 percent of the time whole men do 46 percent of the time.It’s odd when women here use that argument. The OKC data is wrong, women are actually more likely to message men they find unattractive. That doesn’t make the OKC data wrong. I mean, they still find those dudes UNattractive. It also says nothing about how likely they are to message these men. If men message women they find ugly 1% of the time, but women message men they find ugly 2% of the time, then the statement: “women twice as likely to message unattractive men” is technically true, but wild… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/19 07:30 PM |
| 13 | Should fashion models (and models in general) be proud of their success?There is a surprising amount of work beyond just being born attractive. Successful models are on extremely restrictive diet and exercise regimes not to mention the performance aspect to it all which is essentially an art. So yes, I think they can be proud of their success. I also think it can come off as tactless at times if they aren’t humble about it though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/19 06:40 PM |
| 27 | What is the deal with porn hate?I’ve actually went down the anti-porn rabbit hole of a few subs in particular. It seems to be based in insecurity and justified by sex-neg feminist rhetoric. What I find most interesting is that their claims of this type of simulated sex will damage a man’s ability to bond properly with his wife. However, when you turn the tables on them and suggest certain sex has the mere possibility of similarly damaging a woman’s ability to bond with her husband, they start seething. https://www.reddit.com/r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/19 05:59 PM |
| 1 | Interesting study about birth control. In other words ugly men arent wantedYeah, well obviously not. Much like the OP, it is an obvious conclusion but is still indicative of a few things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/19 04:53 PM |
| 1 | Interesting study about birth control. In other words ugly men arent wantedThis is not the chad/stacey baby I paid for... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/19 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Interesting study about birth control. In other words ugly men arent wantedOh of course. Those banks are businesses first. They aren’t charitable groups who fuel validation seeking weirdos. They are not r/rateme or gonewild. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/19 04:23 PM |
| 3 | Interesting study about birth control. In other words ugly men arent wantedI have no idea what you’re trying to say and how it is a response or refutation of my point. There’s no reason why women should choose bad genes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/19 04:10 PM |
| 9 | Q4W: What do you think is holding most men back from being Chad?Kandy is oddly blackpilled. You should’ve seen her purge threads. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/19 04:04 PM |
| 7 | Interesting study about birth control. In other words ugly men arent wantedThat’s kinda funny. The girls choose some gigachad sperm out of a catalog but end up with some sperg doctor genes? Maternity fraud is not something I’ve ever thought about really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/19 03:59 PM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (01 December 2019)Back from vacation. Did I miss anything? Took 9 days off. It was so nice! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/19 03:36 PM |
| 10 | Interesting study about birth control. In other words ugly men arent wantedReminds me of how women choose sperm donors. Basically 6’4” gigachads who went to Brown are the only men that sperm banks are willing to pay good money for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/19 03:36 PM |
| 2 | How are you with your female *friends*?It really depends on how you define friends. I think too many people are fast and loose with that word. I’m acquaintances with many women, but I would really call them friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 02:16 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?Keep believing what you want to. It’s your prerogative | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 02:08 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?Nobody is forcing you to believe anything. Other people understood and replied to my comments and OP’s reply as speaking of ones dating pool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 02:00 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?You don’t have to believe anything sublime. I gave you multiple analogies as to why one should care about ones dating pool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 01:44 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?I’ve stuck to the original premise that I was talking about the health of ones dating pool the entire time. Look sublime, other people understood it. I’m not sure why you’re having such trouble here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 01:42 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?Nobody is backtracking or revising. Other people understood perfectly that the comment was talking about the health of ones dating pool from the beginning | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 01:39 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?I’m telling you that what you think I’m trying to say is wrong. I’ve clarified that many times now with multiple analogies. Other people in this comment chain understood the comment related to ones dating pool. I’m not sure why it’s so hard for you. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/dzm4dn/why_should_women_care_about_the_sexual_and_dating/f88roou/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 01:36 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?No I’m not. I’m saying one should inherently care about the health of ones dating pool. I’ve said many times that caring is not necessary nor would caring itself widen or shrink ones dating pool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 01:30 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?Can you read? The first link: I said an unhealthy dating pool would be a detriment to your dating pool. Which is obviously correct. None of those links say that caring would widen your dating pool. The third link says it again. It would be helpful for you for if your pool widened and as your dating pool becomes healthy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 01:27 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?I never claimed that caring would widen your dating pool. You keep claiming that is what I said and I never did. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/dzm4dn/why_should_women_care_about_the_sexual_and_dating/f88roou/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Other people understood that I was talking about caring of the health of ones dating pool. Why can’t you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 01:20 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?There is no failed explanations. I gave you many analogies. If you’re a Jew, then you should inherently care if your dating pool has nazis. If you don’t like fat women, then you should inherently care if your dating pool has obese women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 01:15 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?I already explained it to you. One would inherently care about the health of ones dating pool. Caring about the health of your dating pool is relevant to obtaining a partner. Jews would indeed have a harder time dating if their dating pool was filled with nazis. So they should inherently care if their dating pool had nazis. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 01:04 PM |
| 2 | Where would you place yourself on the 1-10 scale of attractiveness, and why? how does it influence your ideas about TRP?I think 8 is fair. That’s what I’m told at least. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 12:53 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?I already explained what I meant and that your interpretation is wrong. There’s nothing contingent or necessary about it. You should inherently care as one should inherently care about the health of your dating pool as an unhealthy dating pool would be unhelpful towards you. We went over this already. I have continually explained what I meant with that. You just don’t want to believe it? Which is fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 12:48 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?Nobody said it was important to finding an attractive mate though. The argument is that you should inherently care for your dating pool as the health of it or lack thereof in this case is of concern. Is this just another day of making up implications like necessary and important? You don’t have to believe that one should care. Nobody can force you to believe anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 12:17 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?If you disagree that your pool deteriorating is not unhelpful then I can’t help you. I believe your pool deteriorating is unhelpful. Nobody is saying it is necessary but you. I think you should care about a deteriorating dating pool if you care to find a mate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 03:41 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?You should, not you will. Geez. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 02:55 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?Lol what?? It would be helpful to you if your pool widened because less men were hateful and bitter. Your pool would widen as it is healthier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 02:41 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?It would be a detriment to your dating life if your pool deteriorates or alternatively good if your pool widens. There is no “need.” It would just be logical to care about the health of your dating pool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 02:36 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?Yes it does. As I already claimed, you should inherently care about your dating pool. I never made a claim on how much of an effect it would have or how important it was. If you care to be with an attractive man, then you should care that there are more of them to choose from. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 02:27 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?I’m sorry you believe my claim was that it was contingent or necessary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 02:21 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?If that’s you want the an attractive man, then you should care. Yes lol You should care if men are bitter and hateful if you don’t want that type of man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 02:15 AM |
| 4 | Why don’t men appreciate the shit women go through with birth control and pay for dates?Imagine having so little control | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 01:45 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?You should care about hateful and bitter men if you like men that are not that. All the analogies fit into that point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 01:43 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?I said you should care if you want an attractive man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 01:37 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?My argument is that you should care about the health of your dating pool. That doesn’t mean not caring would make you struggle or that caring is a necessity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 01:36 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?So it’s now it’s not necessary, now it means that you would struggle otherwise? Can you decide on one interpretation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 01:32 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?As I’ve said multiple times, saying you should work out to get laid is not a claim that working out is necessary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 01:29 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?Your interpretation is wrong that’s for sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 01:27 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?No, it is not necessary towards finding a mate lol What a dumb thing to think I would claim. How would that even be argued? How would caring about obesity be necessary in finding an attractive woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 01:25 AM |
| 8 | Why don’t men appreciate the shit women go through with birth control and pay for dates?Imagine being so controlled by men that you take birth control not out of a desire to avoid pregnancy but to allow men to nut inside you lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 01:24 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?It means what it means sublime. If you care about finding an attractive mate, then you should care about the health of that dating pool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 01:21 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?For the first 50 comments we were talking about the OP semantics lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 01:19 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/dzm4dn/why_should_women_care_about_the_sexual_and_dating/f896pex/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf My reply to you begins with talking about the dating pool. I’m not wrong about what I implied and even clarified from the beginning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 01:15 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?Yes, you should care because you should care about the health of your dating pool. That’s the entire point of my comment lol that is what I originally argued and what I am continually arguing with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 01:13 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?You don’t have to believe anything lol if that’s what you want to believe then go ahead. If you want an attractive partner, then you should care about the health of your dating pool. That’s not to imply that anything is necessary. I’m sorry you are reading things that I didn’t write and are interpreting things I didn’t imply. If you want a healthy dating pool then you should care about a healthy dating pool. This isn’t hard sublime lmao So now you’ve moved the goalposts from necessary to at leas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 01:02 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?If you want to have get laid, then you should work out. That absolutely does not mean that working out is a necessity to getting laid. It means that it would behoove you to work out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 12:55 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?Necessity is not my premise as I’ve said multiple times. Again, you should workout if you want to get laid. That doesn’t necessitate working out to getting laid. You continuing to claim so doesn’t make it true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 12:41 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?I clarified that it’s not necessary multiple times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 12:07 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?I repeatedly clarified that it is not a necessary trait. If you care to get laid then you should work out. That’s not saying it’s a necessary trait to get laid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 12:04 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?To clarify, there’s no “need.” I said you should care about the health of your dating pool, not that you need to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 11:59 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?I disagree that bitter and hateful people never effect your dating pool. If you think that’s not true then okay. I’ll let you have the last word. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 11:56 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?Why am I wrong? Why shouldn’t you care about the health of your dating pool? If you don’t believe you should care about the health of your dating pool then that’s fine. I believe you should. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 11:43 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?You don’t have to believe me. Nobody is forcing you to do anything. One should have concern for the health of their dating pool. If you don’t care that your dating pool includes bitter people then that’s fine. I think you should. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 11:30 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?If you don’t believe that bitter men and women cause struggle in the dating scene then I can’t change your mind. I do. I have met and dated bitter women. It’s no fun. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 10:54 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?Incorrect. Your dating pool decreases with an increase in obesity and increases with an decrease in obesity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 10:51 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?I already explained the reasoning. If you want an attractive partner then you should care to minimize what makes your dating pool unattractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 10:48 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?If you want a healthy weight women then you should care about the health of your dating pool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 10:42 PM |
| 1 | On nice guys...Chemistry and tension is not physical escalation. Unless you both kiss each other at the same time as if you are kissing a mirror; someone escalates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 10:38 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?I never said it was necessary to care about fat women in order to find a wife. I said if you want a healthy weight wife, then you should care about the health of your dating pool. I’d also argue that hateful/bitter men often hurt women and may be good at masking it. Therefore you should care to reduce these hateful ideologies. Much like Jews should. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 10:36 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?So your argument is that you should only care if there is an epidemic? I’d argue differently. Women are complaining about a lack of economically attractive men. I would say they should care about this despite it not being of any epidemic proportions. I’m not premising getting an economically attractive man upon caring about the poor. It perfectly explains my logic. If you care to be with a non-obese woman, then you should care about the health of your dating pool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 10:21 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?If you want non-obese woman, then an obesity epidemic should concern you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 10:13 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?You should care if there is an obesity crisis. As one would impede your chances of finding a mate. That doesn’t mean caring or not caring would necessarily change your chances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 10:10 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?No it doesn’t. I claim that you should care. You should care about the obesity crisis if you desire a non-obese wife. The obesity crisis should therefore concern you. That doesn’t mean your dating prospects would suffer if you didn’t care or improve if you did. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 10:05 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?The argument states that Jews should care if their dating prospects are nazis. It does not imply that Jews would be unsuccessful dating with nazis. It implies that Jews should care to lessen their dating pool of such unattractive members. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 09:58 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?Well assuming a Jew wouldn’t want to live in a world where the only dating prospects were nazis, the argument still stands. One still should desire the healthiest and most ideal dating pool. Dating prospects btw are not the only reason why. You should care about the obesity epidemic in the same vein. You could care by merely supporting Michele Obama’s fight on obesity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 09:52 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?Doesn’t make sense to you maybe. A Jew should care to combat hateful ideologies. It makes perfect sense. A Jew should want less people to be bitter and hateful of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 09:49 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?Scroll up. I literally did. It makes perfect sense why a Jew should care to combat hateful ideologies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 09:46 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?Scroll up? I literally explained how combating hateful ideologies would behoove Jews and why they should care to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 09:23 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?I already did if you can read? I talked about combating harmful ideologies with many analogies. I think the how is irrelevant though. I came here to explain why you should care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 09:19 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?I’m refusing to answer your question because it’s moving the goalposts and irrelevant to WHY you should care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 09:15 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?I already explained to you the WHY. The how is your own prerogative | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 09:13 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?I don’t have to. Explaining how this caring manifests itself is irrelevant to why you should care. You could care in many varying ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 09:07 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?I already told you. Why should I care about the obesity epidemic? Well if I care about the health of my dating pool, then I should care. The how could be in many ways, but that’s irrelevant to the why. She simply asked why. And I answered. You are moving the goalposts to how. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 09:05 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?It doesn’t matter HOW. The question isn’t HOW, it’s WHY. Why should I care about the obesity epidemic? Well if I care about the health of my dating pool, then I should care. The how could be in many ways, but that’s irrelevant to the why. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 09:02 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?In the same way that I care that my dating pool isn’t filled with obese women. I already gave you that analogy that explains what I mean. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 08:59 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?You moved the goalposts to being empathetic and away from my point. I’m saying if you care that your dating pool is attractive then you should care to minimize what makes that pool unattractive. Again, it is accepting it. She’s asking why should care, and defines care by pity fucking lol I’m saying she should care and that she shouldn’t accept such a premise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?It is the same thing lol if you care about finding an attractive partner then you should care about the things that make your dating pool unattractive. If I care about finding a non-obese girl, then I should care about an obesity epidemic. Your discussion of the rhetoric should never accept their faulty premise lol that’s not how lawyers argue is it? Just to accept an incorrect premise? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 08:49 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?No it doesn’t necessitate that. If you want an attractive dating pool, then you should care to reform and combat the ideologies that make men unattractive. That doesn’t necessitate that any man you date would have experienced this. I’m not sure how you came to that conclusion. Whether otherwise attractive men fall into these ideologies or whether they ultimately escape them, you are still benefited by men being less bitter, assuming you want an attractive mate and assuming you want the largest p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 08:42 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?I never said it was implausible or impossible to obtain an attractive man who did not face those dating woes. I said that if you care that your dating pool is attractive men, then you should care because it’s perfectly plausible that some of those men would have similar dating woes that they have overcome. If you care that your current dating pool is attractive men, then you should care to reform unattractive men. It would behoove you to care. Why allow incels to define what caring means? Incels… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 08:34 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?That assumes no currently attractive man has even been bitter about dating and women, which is obviously incorrect. Many men and women go through a bitter phase about dating and the opposite sex. You also don’t need to have sex with them to care about their woes lol but that’s not stopping her from thinking so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 08:26 PM |
| 1 | On nice guys...Well that’s no different than my OP. I’m not sure where we disagree if we agree it’s imposing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 08:22 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?She’s asking why she should care. My answer is you should care if you care to have an attractive mate and now my answer to you is to lessen such hatred against you, and well look at her post history lmao that’s not the post history of someone who doesn’t care about this stuff. Okay so what if it’s no different? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 08:20 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?You should care about bitter people who hate you in order to lessen such hatred. You obviously care to begin with because you talk about it constantly, so why not channel that into something of utility? Again, both the KKK and the NAACP care about black people. In a way, the NAACP should care about the KKK because they care about black people. And I think they do. It’s like asking: Why should the NAACP care about the KKK by shooting themselves in the face (having martyr sex with incels in this c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 08:12 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?Sure it’s fair game. It’s also fair game to respond that you should care about them and not all of them are bitter or hateful towards women. It’s like asking why should Jews care about Hitler or people with similar ideologies. Like, shouldn’t you obviously care in order to lessen the hatred aimed at you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 08:04 PM |
| 1 | On nice guys...Even if you want the salesman’s goods, he is still imposing on you. Your definitions are all wonky. It doesn’t magically become non-imposing just because you want the action. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 08:00 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?Okay, then she should say that. It’s just another anti-incel post masquerading as something different. “Why should I care about mens dating success” Should not be conflated with: “Why should I have sex with incels” Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 07:52 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?I’m arguing women should care. I’m arguing she does care. But they care in different ways. The KKK cares about black people but unlike how the NAACP cares about black people. She is conflating “caring” with sleeping with unattractive men as some sort of martyr. I’m not sure why she is doing that lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 07:45 PM |
| 1 | On nice guys...No thank you to what? If the mentioned gender roles are so harmful, how do you go about changing them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 07:36 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?If someone made a post debating legal arguments wrt the 1st amendment or any discussion related to it, I would say they care about that topic. I guess we just disagree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 07:34 PM |
| 2 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?People post what they care about. I wouldn’t move the goalposts to care “meaningfully” or care “greatly” or whatever you are doing. If you find something interesting then you care about it. If I want to hear your thoughts of something legal, then I care enough to ask you. Regardless, if you care that there are less hateful men in the world, then you would care about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 07:28 PM |
| 2 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?Her whole post implies she cares. The people who don’t care about bitter and hateful men don’t make these posts or think about it at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 07:23 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?Even so, why would you not care to change bitter, hateful men? If you care that men are not hateful towards you, as she seems to be implying she does, it would behoove you to care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 07:18 PM |
| 2 | On nice guys...Your last paragraph is nonsensical. Somebody will have to escalate and incur the associated risk unless you both literally make mirrored identical moves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 06:01 PM |
| 2 | On nice guys...Good points. You appear to be agreeing with me that as it currently stands, it is the man’s job to approach and escalate. Therefore, men will have to take their chances in inconveniencing women. You say it doesn’t have to be that way. Fine. How do you change such a dynamic without telling women what they should want. Seems foundationally un-feminist to tell women what they should desire. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 05:23 PM |
| 34 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?Your premise is false at its core. It assumes the only men who need advice are the ones who hate you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 05:09 PM |
| 19 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?If you want a competent, attractive partner then you should inherently care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 05:04 PM |
| 8 | Men need to have an honest discussion about male nature.Isn’t TRP ‘how to become chad’ ? It seems most bloop posts of late have been anti-incel posts. Which fine, but it’s getting old. Incel posts are banned, so I don’t see why anti-incel posts are continually posted. It’s just symbolic of how blue pill lost the debate. Of course the best thing to do is become a man women want to be around and date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 03:29 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 November 2019)Again, depends if it is codified into an HR policy in which you had to follow or else reprimanded and ultimately fired. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/19 07:56 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 November 2019)It does if you legislate it. So women’s or black scholarship committee’s must recognize self-ID for instance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/19 07:31 PM |
| 1 | Some people take relationships titles way too seriously and it hurts dating.It gives you a little assurance so that you don’t have to get STD checked every week lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/19 05:28 PM |
| 3 | Some people take relationships titles way too seriously and it hurts dating.I’m not sure what you are getting at. I’m not circle-jerking as I understand the term. I am adding and expanding on why I believe these beliefs exists. There’s nothing wrong with short term exclusive dating. It’s far more enjoyable and safe, especially for women. It is also may be easier for men to get laid this way as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/19 04:59 PM |
| 1 | Some people take relationships titles way too seriously and it hurts dating.Honestly, I try not to brag here. I’d rather bloops consider me an incel than a good looking guy lol it’s funnier that way. You have to remember that the people you are talking to skew to the emotionally guarded and introverted types. They’ve never went to summer camp and had a gf/bf for a month. They never went to the mountains for the winter and had a snow bunny gf for the season. If the men and women here engage in exclusivity, they essentially mean it synonymously with building a life togeth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/19 04:52 PM |
| 9 | Some people take relationships titles way too seriously and it hurts dating.This comment will probably be removed because your OP will be flaired CMV but I completely agree with you. People act like bf/gf label is synonymous with a calculated and intense effort to build a life together and ultimately marry. It’s ridiculous tbh and puts way too many expectations on dating, relationships and exclusivity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/19 04:43 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 November 2019)Identity politics. Idk | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/19 03:08 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 November 2019)Same goes for any identity. The president isn’t the president just because he says he is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/19 03:02 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 November 2019)https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/18/whites-can-black-wish-says-lecturers-union/amp/ Whites can be black if they wish, says lecturers' union People should be allowed to identify as black no matter what colour they are born, a lecturers' union has said. The University and College Union (UCU), which represents more than 100,000 university lecturers and staff, set out its position on whether people should be able to self-identify as different races or genders. The debate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/19 02:43 PM |
| 1 | Masculinity is natural - femininity is artificialWhy mutually exclusive? Can they not be both? Your logic doesn’t make sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/19 02:37 PM |
| 1 | Masculinity is natural - femininity is artificialHow does that make them the same? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/19 02:17 PM |
| 3 | Why are women so triggered by sexually unsucess*cel*ful men?Analogies are not mental gymnastics. If you think so then you need to take a lit class or maybe a debate class or something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/19 02:27 AM |
| 7 | Why are women so triggered by sexually unsucess*cel*ful men?I love you too. You have to draw a true equivalence to an incel killing you because his ideology motivates him. Your husband killing you over an unnamed motivation is a false equivalence. A Muslim killing you in the name of his ideology is a true equivalence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/19 01:39 AM |
| 8 | Why are women so triggered by sexually unsucess*cel*ful men?Try and pay attention poppy. We are talking about incels. The man you’re married to is not an incel. Nor is he killing you due to ideology. Don’t use false equivalences, it makes you look bad. The likelihood of you being killed by a Muslim terrorist is far higher than an incel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/19 01:36 AM |
| 11 | Why are women so triggered by sexually unsucess*cel*ful men?Drawing an analogy is not whataboutism. And the likelihood of you being killed by an incel is far less than a Muslim terrorist. There are far more Muslim terrorist crimes. The man you’re married to is not an incel lmao I knew you wouldn’t have intellectual consistency. Bahaha lacking intellectual consistency AND moving the goalposts are we already? This is going to be a fun conversation! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/19 01:30 AM |
| 9 | Why are women so triggered by sexually unsucess*cel*ful men?Nobody is baiting. I don’t really care. Hate minorities over what a violent few of them believe all you want. I just want to see their intellectual consistency. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/19 01:23 AM |
| 5 | Masculinity is natural - femininity is artificialI always found this argument odd. Is a polar bear hunting “unnatural” because it learned such techniques from its mother? This idea that you can separate behaviors into natural and unnatural is wrong at its core. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/19 01:17 AM |
| 11 | Why are women so triggered by sexually unsucess*cel*ful men?To a far lesser degree than certain religion or races engage in violent crime in the name of an ideology or belief. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/19 01:05 AM |
| 2 | The Lonely Burden of Today’s Teenage GirlsThanks. I’m just going to let it play out. I think I said enough in the OP already. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/19 08:43 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts when you hear people say “Women dont know what they want”?The complaint is that women do more housework and the complaint is that men are not economically attractive. Wanting men to be out of the house working more conflicts with wanting them to be doing more housework. Those things are inversely correlated whether or not you continue to seethe about it. Men already work more hours than women. Asking men to work even MORE hours than women would allow them less time to be home. It’s not ONLY a conflicting desire if it is only about their specific partne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/19 06:58 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts when you hear people say “Women dont know what they want”?How are you still confused? Men are being told to do more housework AND are told to be more economically attractive. These are conflicting desires. For men to be more economically attractive, men would have less time to do housework. Those things are inversely correlated. If I told women to do more housework AND make more money that too would be conflicting. Not sure how you are still confused. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/19 06:21 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts when you hear people say “Women dont know what they want”?And again, men working to afford a housekeeper is inversely correlated to housework. How are you not following? Well it’s a problem of conflict if one individual woman is making the blanket statement that women doing more housework is a problem. Women are indeed making the blanket statement that men should do more housework. This conflicts with women who want men to be more economically attractive. They are conflicting desires. I’m not sure why you are having trouble following. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/19 06:10 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts when you hear people say “Women dont know what they want”?And it’s not an uncommon trend at large for women to desire economically attractive men. That’s the point. Again, nobody said all economically attractive men work insane hours. We are talking about the aggregate where hours worked is correlated with economic attractiveness. If you want women to do less housework, then women would have to cease desiring men who tend to work more hours. Sure most people are not wealthy. That doesn’t stop women from complaining about a lack of economically attracti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/19 05:55 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts when you hear people say “Women dont know what they want”?The discussion is here is almost never about their specific husband. It’s always a complaint in the aggregate that women do more housework than men. You are acting like the women here and feminists in general only talk about their own husbands and housework. That’s just not true. The discussion is always about women doing more housework in the aggregate per the relevant studies they cite. The discussion and complaint being that women do more housework in the aggregate. This conflicts with the de… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/19 05:33 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts when you hear people say “Women dont know what they want”?I didn’t pretend that in the slightest. I said it’s correlated which you can’t even argue. Economically attractive people are positively correlated to hours worked. If someone is working more hours (men) then that group will do less housework. When I see women here complain about men not doing housework it’s exactly that. They aren’t complaining about themselves doing more housework, they are complaining about the disparity in the aggregate as an example of female oppression. So again, if you wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/19 05:27 PM |
| 3 | What are your thoughts when you hear people say “Women dont know what they want”?It’s correlated in the aggregate. Hence conflicting desires. Don’t pretend high status jobs like doctors and lawyers are not what these women are talking about when they refer to economically attractive men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/19 05:00 PM |
| 3 | What are your thoughts when you hear people say “Women dont know what they want”?Well I’m not the one complaining about women doing more housework or the one complaining about a lack of economically attractive men. So I’m not sure how it’s my problem. women don’t know what they want. That’s inherently talking about women as a whole which is what the OP seeks to discuss. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/19 04:23 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts when you hear people say “Women dont know what they want”?How does that make sense? The idea that women message ugly men doesn’t debunk the idea that women find them ugly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/19 03:49 PM |
| 4 | Can we discuss this short story, "The Feminist" ? Tackles head-on the contradictions between feminist ideology and dating advice for insecure men.I read a part of it the other day. It just highlights how shitty feminist dating advice is. That’s not to say there is such a thing as “feminist dating advice,” but feminists literally giving dating advice. Women are attracted to the male gender role and the people into social justice are not falling over themselves at the chance of advising the male gender role, never mind any gender role. Hence the “just be yourself” and “you are perfect the way you are” advice this guy is getting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/19 02:20 PM |
| 12 | What are your thoughts when you hear people say “Women dont know what they want”?I think it’s meant to express that women as a whole have conflicting desires. For instance, complaining about a lack of economically attractive men and then complaining that women do more housework. These are conflicting desires. If women are going to desire economically attractive men then women will logistically tend to do more housework. You can’t have one without having the other. I get that it’s easier to attack housework disparity rather than attack what women desire (because feminism), bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/19 02:12 PM |
| 3 | CMV - The 'anger phase' is just a term for a particular kind of reactionary misogyny, which is part of a wider and more common form of misogyny, and the only cure is feminism.There might be blackpill people in red pill, sure. Never denied that. There are also plenty of RP men who champion non-traditionalism too. The OP and my comment is about RP, not black. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/19 12:56 AM |
| 3 | CMV - The 'anger phase' is just a term for a particular kind of reactionary misogyny, which is part of a wider and more common form of misogyny, and the only cure is feminism.My comment was about red pill, not blackpill. I’m not sure how your comment about what incels say has anything to do with my comment then. The OP is also about the anger phase of RP; not anything to do with blackpill. At least that’s how I read it. Blackpill ideologies include lookism and pinkpill which is diametrically opposed to game, PUA and RP. I don’t find any utility in the term ‘manosphere’, as you are using it, if the term includes opposing ideologies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/19 12:14 AM |
| 5 | CMV - The 'anger phase' is just a term for a particular kind of reactionary misogyny, which is part of a wider and more common form of misogyny, and the only cure is feminism.The opposite of those arguments are regularly made here by people of the manopshere as well though. I think you’re conflating blackpill with redpill. RP mostly believes tradcon beliefs are a costly lie. Or do you believe that incels are a part of the manosphere? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/19 11:35 PM |
| 10 | CMV - The 'anger phase' is just a term for a particular kind of reactionary misogyny, which is part of a wider and more common form of misogyny, and the only cure is feminism.Feminism doesn’t exclusively own the deconstruction of telling men or women what they should be like or do. That’s exactly what TRP and MGTOW are as well. One of the largest tenets of TRP is coming to terms with the fact that you can’t tell women what to do. “She’s not yours, it’s just your turn,” hypergamy and branch swinging and “you can’t negotiate attraction” are all the opposite of an attempt to control what women do. You can’t control it. You also can’t abolish the behavior. You can only w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/19 09:25 PM |
| 1 | What Do You Get Out Of This?I just find human sexual behavior interesting. It’s also taboo to talk about and especially taboo to criticize. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/19 06:16 PM |
| 3 | What is the "real" N count for women these days?I’ll make sure to ping you next time I witness it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/19 05:55 PM |
| 12 | What is the "real" N count for women these days?Man the amount of seething some people do when you source your last paragraph and claim it is also your personal experience is incredible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/19 04:42 PM |
| 1 | In most relationships women end up becoming the partner who requests and/or demands more favors, gifts and attention. You can see a sudden change in this direction right after partners start cohabitating. Do you agree? Is this behaviour acceptable?Lmao now you know? As long as you know that it doesn’t make women bad people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 06:06 PM |
| 1 | In most relationships women end up becoming the partner who requests and/or demands more favors, gifts and attention. You can see a sudden change in this direction right after partners start cohabitating. Do you agree? Is this behaviour acceptable?https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/dx96tq/in_most_relationships_women_end_up_becoming_the/f7ovhr2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf I continually said that such behavior is not bad or immoral and repeatedly told you to stop moralizing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 05:43 PM |
| 1 | In most relationships women end up becoming the partner who requests and/or demands more favors, gifts and attention. You can see a sudden change in this direction right after partners start cohabitating. Do you agree? Is this behaviour acceptable?There’s nothing I dislike about it. I already told you that this is how women act and it doesn’t make them bad or immoral. I also told you to stop moralizing on it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 05:12 PM |
| 1 | In most relationships women end up becoming the partner who requests and/or demands more favors, gifts and attention. You can see a sudden change in this direction right after partners start cohabitating. Do you agree? Is this behaviour acceptable?Lol you’re the one who already accepted the premise and said it’s because of housework. If you want to walk back your words to merely a possibility then that’s fine. It’s also a possibility that women have always asked for more favors in relationships too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 05:00 PM |
| 39 | Is the prevalence among men for liking "thick girls" related to the fact that about 40% of American women are now obese?I think people misuse the word too much. Thick is not synonymous with fat or obese. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/66/dc/55/66dc554d3d6fcf765e66d301dd0ffb15.jpg I would say this is a thick girl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 03:46 PM |
| 1 | In most relationships women end up becoming the partner who requests and/or demands more favors, gifts and attention. You can see a sudden change in this direction right after partners start cohabitating. Do you agree? Is this behaviour acceptable?No, those stats don’t say anything about WHY women ask for more favors. You’re making these up. By your own logic, single women do more housework than single men. Hence single women ask for more favors because they do more housework. Your logic doesn’t make any sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 12:11 PM |
| 1 | In most relationships women end up becoming the partner who requests and/or demands more favors, gifts and attention. You can see a sudden change in this direction right after partners start cohabitating. Do you agree? Is this behaviour acceptable?You’re the one who accepted such a premise and justified it by saying it’s because of housework. How would you know any of their motivations. You’re assuming here. I don’t think it’s controversial to suggest the typical job is more strenuous than housecleaning but if that’s what you believe then okay. My focus was always on young women. Young women do expect more from my opinion. There’s no logical reason such motivation magically changes to a consequence of housework from just a mannerism they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 02:49 AM |
| 1 | In most relationships women end up becoming the partner who requests and/or demands more favors, gifts and attention. You can see a sudden change in this direction right after partners start cohabitating. Do you agree? Is this behaviour acceptable?Housework is far less taxing than much of the actual labor men do and even a desk job. Most people would rather vacuum. All you have is subjective impressions too. You have no idea what is motivating them to ask for more favors nor do you even know that premise is true. I’m telling you from my experience that young girls ask for more favors. This is all before housework is an issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 10:27 PM |
| 1 | In most relationships women end up becoming the partner who requests and/or demands more favors, gifts and attention. You can see a sudden change in this direction right after partners start cohabitating. Do you agree? Is this behaviour acceptable?Anecdotal like I said. On what basis do you use for the motivations of favor asking? You could flip the script and claim that men ask for more favors because they work longer hours. Favors like doing the housework because they work longer lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 10:11 PM |
| 1 | In most relationships women end up becoming the partner who requests and/or demands more favors, gifts and attention. You can see a sudden change in this direction right after partners start cohabitating. Do you agree? Is this behaviour acceptable?Men work work hours what are you talking about? Again, women act like this before living together with men in a relationship. They act like this in high school and college. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 10:04 PM |
| 1 | In most relationships women end up becoming the partner who requests and/or demands more favors, gifts and attention. You can see a sudden change in this direction right after partners start cohabitating. Do you agree? Is this behaviour acceptable?You are. You’re objection is motivated by an objection to “blaming women.” Housework is irrelevant. Women do this when housework is not an issue. You’re saying women ask for more favors ONLY when housework becomes uneven and because they do this housework. That’s just not the case because girls act like this too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 09:49 PM |
| 0 | In most relationships women end up becoming the partner who requests and/or demands more favors, gifts and attention. You can see a sudden change in this direction right after partners start cohabitating. Do you agree? Is this behaviour acceptable?I think it would behoove you to stop moralizing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 08:48 PM |
| 1 | In most relationships women end up becoming the partner who requests and/or demands more favors, gifts and attention. You can see a sudden change in this direction right after partners start cohabitating. Do you agree? Is this behaviour acceptable?If you disagree that’s fine. Honestly I think such a question can only be answered by men who have dated women. If you haven’t seen it then it is probably because you don’t date women. You are moralizing. I am not “blaming women” or saying their behavior is bad, immoral or whatever negative you assign to it. It is what it is. Women just ask for more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 08:15 PM |
| 1 | In most relationships women end up becoming the partner who requests and/or demands more favors, gifts and attention. You can see a sudden change in this direction right after partners start cohabitating. Do you agree? Is this behaviour acceptable?Again, I am saying that the behaviors of adult women are no different than the behaviors of when they are in high school in college wrt asking for favors. You are justifying behaviors ad hoc. There is no behavioral change here and the reason is not due to household chores lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 07:53 PM |
| 1 | In most relationships women end up becoming the partner who requests and/or demands more favors, gifts and attention. You can see a sudden change in this direction right after partners start cohabitating. Do you agree? Is this behaviour acceptable?That’s not the point. Women ask for more favors even before housework is relevant to the equation like in high school and college. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 07:20 PM |
| 1 | In most relationships women end up becoming the partner who requests and/or demands more favors, gifts and attention. You can see a sudden change in this direction right after partners start cohabitating. Do you agree? Is this behaviour acceptable?I use to work weddings at my country club. Can’t tell you how many times a bride told a story of how her husband won her over. There’s no incorrect perception here. Women just ask for more favors lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 07:00 PM |
| 1 | In most relationships women end up becoming the partner who requests and/or demands more favors, gifts and attention. You can see a sudden change in this direction right after partners start cohabitating. Do you agree? Is this behaviour acceptable?Sure but that’s not mutually exclusive to asking you for favors though. It’s entirely possible to ask someone for a favor and want to spend more time with them lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 06:45 PM |
| 1 | In most relationships women end up becoming the partner who requests and/or demands more favors, gifts and attention. You can see a sudden change in this direction right after partners start cohabitating. Do you agree? Is this behaviour acceptable?Driving, paying for things, being with them when they don’t feel like doing a chore. Lots of things honestly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 06:42 PM |
| 1 | In most relationships women end up becoming the partner who requests and/or demands more favors, gifts and attention. You can see a sudden change in this direction right after partners start cohabitating. Do you agree? Is this behaviour acceptable?Lots of things honestly. “Babe can you come with me to the DMV, I don’t want to go alone.” There’s nothing really wrong with women asking for more favors. I wouldn’t moralize it. Girls are kinda just higher maintenance. Romance is a verb to men. For women, it’s something they consume. They ask for favors more. That’s okay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 06:42 PM |
| 5 | Woman makes more money - she carries the bulk of the financials...would you have a problem with it? Both sides speakHe should honestly just open up a cash negative business. Fuck it. If he likes video games? Open a sick video game bar and throw tournaments. If he likes scuba diving? Open a scuba school. If he likes fishing? Buy a boat and offer charters. If you can open a business and have the privilege of not being under pressure to turn a profit then you should honestly do that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 06:39 PM |
| 3 | In most relationships women end up becoming the partner who requests and/or demands more favors, gifts and attention. You can see a sudden change in this direction right after partners start cohabitating. Do you agree? Is this behaviour acceptable?From my experience it’s the truth. So them continuing that behavior into adulthood suggests it’s not because of housework. Sounds like you are justifying such behavior ad hoc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 06:35 PM |
| 1 | In most relationships women end up becoming the partner who requests and/or demands more favors, gifts and attention. You can see a sudden change in this direction right after partners start cohabitating. Do you agree? Is this behaviour acceptable?Young girls expect more favors from their boyfriends from my experience. Housework chores are irrelevant at this age. Adult women don’t expect more favors because of housework. They are just continuing their behaviors from youth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 06:34 PM |
| 1 | In most relationships women end up becoming the partner who requests and/or demands more favors, gifts and attention. You can see a sudden change in this direction right after partners start cohabitating. Do you agree? Is this behaviour acceptable?Girls ask for more favors even in high school when housework is irrelevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 06:12 PM |
| 1 | In most relationships women end up becoming the partner who requests and/or demands more favors, gifts and attention. You can see a sudden change in this direction right after partners start cohabitating. Do you agree? Is this behaviour acceptable?Most women ask for more even in high school relationships when housework is completely irrelevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 06:12 PM |
| 2 | Q4A Do you think r/love is a breath of fresh air, or filled with naive peopleLittle a little b | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 03:59 AM |
| 1 | Study: Women, without exceptions, found muscular, "ripped" men most attractive; although in social contexts they lie to avoid hurting men around them.Source? My source says women overall because social reasons | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/19 07:27 PM |
| 4 | Study: Women, without exceptions, found muscular, "ripped" men most attractive; although in social contexts they lie to avoid hurting men around them.Because it’s not the true reason men don’t like fat chicks. The truth is what you said; that women don’t like towering over men and feeling masculine. It has nothing to do with heels. I understand your reason for believing it’s not a lie. Obfuscating the truth is a lie to me. It’s okay if you disagree lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/19 07:12 PM |
| 0 | Study: Women, without exceptions, found muscular, "ripped" men most attractive; although in social contexts they lie to avoid hurting men around them.If women are indeed attracted to masculine men, then their attraction would grow during ovulation and when not ovulating, their standards of what they consider attraction would widen to include less masculine men. Or am misinterpreting that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/19 06:34 PM |
| 7 | Study: Women, without exceptions, found muscular, "ripped" men most attractive; although in social contexts they lie to avoid hurting men around them.On this planet. https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/when_women_are_more_likely_to_lie I know you operate on the women are wonderful angels effect, but on this planet women lie more. You can believe that’s not a lie all you want but I consider misdirection lying. If I told you I didn’t want to date fat chicks because they don’t fit in my car, I would consider that a lie. It’s not the reason I don’t want to date fat chicks, and neither is the heel wearing excuse the truth about the matte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/19 06:31 PM |
| 7 | Study: Women, without exceptions, found muscular, "ripped" men most attractive; although in social contexts they lie to avoid hurting men around them.I understand your point but if I told you I didn’t date fat chicks because I want them to fit in my sports car I think you would call bullshit lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/19 05:29 PM |
| 9 | Study: Women, without exceptions, found muscular, "ripped" men most attractive; although in social contexts they lie to avoid hurting men around them.That’s really not surprising. Women lie much more than men for various social reasons. Maybe it’s to avoid hurting feelings or just to appear more moral. I had have a coworker who said a dude she went on a date with was unfortunately too short. I asked her why she wanted to date tall men and she quickly answered “because I want to wear heels.” Maybe she lied for various reasons I’m not sure tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/19 04:32 PM |
| 8 | Q4A Do you think r/love is a breath of fresh air, or filled with naive peopleReminds me of young love. Am really fond of those days. Summer flings and gf’s and just being young and naive. It’s nostalgic and refreshing although a little cringey. Like looking at your high school yearbook. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/19 04:14 PM |
| 1 | (Q4Men) How would you feel if a girl you were interested in had no other men that wanted her?Yeah it does and if a girl is wanted for sex she is still wanted lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/19 04:08 AM |
| 1 | (Q4Men) How would you feel if a girl you were interested in had no other men that wanted her?So if nobody is actively pursuing her for a relationship then she is unwanted? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/19 04:00 AM |
| 1 | (Q4Men) How would you feel if a girl you were interested in had no other men that wanted her?If nobody wants a girl that means she lives in a basement or something lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/19 03:43 AM |
| 1 | (Q4Men) How would you feel if a girl you were interested in had no other men that wanted her?Man I’m trying to picture a girl that no one wants. If nobody wants her that means she’s not putting herself out there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/19 03:28 AM |
| 1 | How common is being upfront about intentions?No. You are assuming. I’m saying such would be the optimal strategy. I also still don’t understand your logic of understanding the feelings of incels means your body is obligated to them and they are entitled to yours. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/19 12:01 AM |
| 1 | How common is being upfront about intentions?Don’t moralize From experience. Again, I’m not advising such acts, I am saying they work the best at getting laid. You are operating under a just world fallacy. It’s just matter of fact. Don’t moralize on this. The optimal strategy will be predicated on your risk tolerance. And your risk tolerance is your prerogative. N count is correlated to mental illness in women. That’s what the data we have says and is from my experience. Hence, the strategies of sleeping with mentally ill women with work t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 11:44 PM |
| 1 | How common is being upfront about intentions?Casual rarely has those repercussions and these women rarely retaliate. It’s done online now and away from your friends and family. It’s also not certain the optimal strategy is the one with the lowest risk. If you can bang 100 women with a higher risk strategy then that is your prerogative. Much like investing, your optimal strategy will depend on your risk tolerance. You’re incorrect again. Being upfront and honest won’t get you casual easier and more frequently. That’s not to say you should n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 11:24 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: Why do you phrase the shift from Alpha traits to Beta traits as a good thing?They believe they are now making smarter decisions ,which tbf they might be, and smarter to them means better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 11:09 PM |
| 1 | How common is being upfront about intentions?Optimal strategy for what? That’s clearly incorrect. Lying, manipulating and targeting mentally ill women would be the optimal strategy for getting laid. I feel like your optimal strategy has different goals in mind than many PPD users here. You have to remember that many people are pursuing casual which often includes a lack of intent. It’s inherent that you don’t have clear intent. And you’re not under any obligation to clear that intent, like your original comment suggested. Nor is she entitl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 11:00 PM |
| 1 | How common is being upfront about intentions?The responses have been very interesting. It’s interesting to see how many people actually believe people have clear intent when they date. I’m actually surprised you truly believe women are entitled to you deciding intent based on a certain timeline. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 10:51 PM |
| 1 | Being an Interesting and Engaging Person is more Important than being Nice or and AssholeAgain, I don’t agree that people who don’t know what they want are an asshole though. You weren’t an asshole for not knowing. For lots of women (and men) sex itself sends a signal. You’re not responsible for how she internalizes things after you told her that you are have no intent or are uncertain about intent. I also disagree that you are under some moral timeline to decide intent. Just like women can withdraw consent at any time, you’re under no obligation for any timeline. She’s not entitled… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 09:54 PM |
| 1 | Being an Interesting and Engaging Person is more Important than being Nice or and AssholeI don’t think I ever made a claim that it is. My claim was that it is misunderstood and mislabeled that unavailable men are assholes to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 09:45 PM |
| 1 | Being an Interesting and Engaging Person is more Important than being Nice or and AssholeThat’s not rambling lol It’s like “crazy bitch” and how men misuse such terms to describe their exes. Then naive girls wonder why crazy bitches get relationships. I’m surprised you’re finding this hard to understand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Being an Interesting and Engaging Person is more Important than being Nice or and AssholeOkay, and women will be the first to call you an asshole after saying that and then dump her after dating for a little while. My point is: women consider that leading her on. If your intent is uncertain then you are not being upfront with your intent. I think you should say all that you said about not having clear intent. That is also expressing NOT knowing what you’re looking for. That’s the exact opposite of knowing what you are looking for and expressing intent. That is exactly what fuckboys … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 09:34 PM |
| 1 | Being an Interesting and Engaging Person is more Important than being Nice or and AssholeAll of the above. Women even consider men who just want casual sex to be assholes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 09:31 PM |
| 1 | Being an Interesting and Engaging Person is more Important than being Nice or and AssholeTelling women you’ll ‘see where this will go’ is not being upfront about their unavailability. Because the truth of the matter is that he doesn’t know what he wants either relationship wise or with that particular woman. Lots of people pursue casual and serious relationships simultaneously with different people. There’s no way to be upfront about their availability because their desires are uncertain and change depending on how dating pans out with that woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 09:24 PM |
| 1 | Being an Interesting and Engaging Person is more Important than being Nice or and AssholeThat’s incorrect. If they are dating someone else then they are unavailable too. You are assuming unavailable guys aren’t upfront about their unavailability. That may be true in some cases, but is false in others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 09:14 PM |
| 1 | How common is being upfront about intentions?The responses on this thread from bloops are insane. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 07:22 PM |
| 1 | How common is being upfront about intentions?Yes you do. You certainly go out on a date without deciding on what kind of relationship you want with that particular person. That’s the whole point of dating. You can’t even trust online pictures, so your point doesn’t stand at all. You’re again assuming your intent is static. Your intent can be different at different times AND be different depending on the person. I can be looking for a relationship AND something casual simultaneously. You also don’t know your intent with that specific person… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 07:01 PM |
| 1 | How common is being upfront about intentions?I never said it’s uncommon for people to lie. In fact, I literally said this in my OP. You’re saying “be upfront” like the OP, yet this is inhuman. Many relationships and marriages today are from people who didn’t know what they wanted upfront. Also, there’s no new paradigm of people suddenly figuring out what they want in life and that being forever static. Such an assumption is literally inhuman and assumes people don’t change their minds and always have their minds figured out on what they ex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 06:51 PM |
| 1 | How common is being upfront about intentions?Yes, I am talking about those same intentions that bloops consider leading women on such as saying “let’s see where this goes.” Maybe it’s lying if you don’t actually feel that way, but then to the bloop in my OP, it’s not leading her on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 06:40 PM |
| 1 | How common is being upfront about intentions?Nobody is talking about lying or disgusting intentions. We are talking about not having intentions to begin with. Plenty of couples are currently married where they started dating without any intention of marriage. Furthermore, many couples exist today with being undecided about marriage or kids. You’re assuming people know their intent. That’s not how humans work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 06:24 PM |
| 1 | How common is being upfront about intentions?I’m not saying you’re being crazy lol I’m saying that a majority of women believe “let’s just see where this goes” as leading her on. Make an OP about it and see what women say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 06:21 PM |
| 1 | Being an Interesting and Engaging Person is more Important than being Nice or and AssholeI already gave you the data. It is certainly not a handful of women who desire unavailable men like you claimed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 06:08 PM |
| 1 | How common is being upfront about intentions?It’s not only women who say this, but bloop men too. Why would I not date these women? Maybe one of these women I will be compatible with. Just because she finds “let’s see where this goes” to be immoral or disadvantageous to her or leading her on, doesn’t mean she would be incompatible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 05:59 PM |
| 1 | Being an Interesting and Engaging Person is more Important than being Nice or and AssholeI can hear what they say. I never claimed to know what they think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 05:48 PM |
| 1 | How common is being upfront about intentions?Right, I will add that people who don’t know what they want say “let’s see where this goes” or something of the effect. Which is what women consider leading her on as it gives her hope of a relationship. You can be upfront about your lack of certainty and will still be accused of leading her on. The OP’s comment implies that keeping the possibility of a relationship open is leading her on. That’s just not true imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 05:44 PM |
| 1 | Preliminary Results from my Analysis of the American Time Use Survey: Single Men are Slobs Who Don't Get Laid.Don’t feel bad about your being a little provocative. It’s gets the people going. Are these college guys? Or general pop? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 05:42 PM |
| 1 | Being an Interesting and Engaging Person is more Important than being Nice or and AssholeThere is no common definition of asshole dating behaviors but what women commonly label asshole men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 05:35 PM |
| 0 | Preliminary Results from my Analysis of the American Time Use Survey: Single Men are Slobs Who Don't Get Laid.To also note, I fully expect my gf to clean more than me if we get a larger place considering she is the one who wants a larger place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 05:27 PM |
| 5 | Preliminary Results from my Analysis of the American Time Use Survey: Single Men are Slobs Who Don't Get Laid.I do a decent amount of cleaning as I enjoy cooking. Housework though is unnecessary as I am fully content in my beautiful condo. I have cleaners and laundry is an easy and quick weekly task. Just because I basically do little housework, doesn’t mean my place is a mess. It’s actually very clean and I like it that way. Women are also kinda messy. Their makeup gets everywhere. I’ve read women’s public bathrooms are often worse than men’s and require more hours of cleaning. Women, more than men, al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 04:40 PM |
| 3 | How common is being upfront about intentions?Right... this idea that people date with clear intent is insane and inhuman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 04:17 PM |
| 1 | How common is being upfront about intentions?Sure but we are not talking about lying. We are talking about clear intent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 04:01 PM |
| 1 | How common is being upfront about intentions?True, but I think “let’s see where this goes” is exactly the strategy TRP advises for maintaining plates lol and exactly the type of shit girls get all pissed about and call leading her on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 03:55 PM |
| 1 | How common is being upfront about intentions?Correct, you can. That still remains EXACTLY what bloops consider NOT having clear intent and leading her on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 03:54 PM |
| 2 | How common is being upfront about intentions?That assumes you want to be friends with everyone you meet. That intent is often only known after you know the person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 03:46 PM |
| 3 | How common is being upfront about intentions?I see and that’s kind of my point. This idea that everyone exactly knows their intention is unrealistic to the point of inhuman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 03:45 PM |
| 3 | How common is being upfront about intentions?Friends never have the intent to be friends? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 03:42 PM |
| 2 | How common is being upfront about intentions?What makes you think I am claiming she doesn’t have that right?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 03:42 PM |
| 2 | How common is being upfront about intentions?Sure you can be honest and upfront about saying you want to date just to see where this is going. However that is PRECISELY what you bloops claim is “leading her on” and “not being honest about intent” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 03:36 PM |
| 1 | Being an Interesting and Engaging Person is more Important than being Nice or and AssholeThat’s where the confusing is coming from. We don’t have a universal definition of what makes a man an asshole and even if we did, people are going to mislabel. That’s the entire point of the comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 03:34 PM |
| 2 | How common is being upfront about intentions?Your genuine motivations or intentions can absolutely be to ascertain your intent to see whether or not she is relationship material. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 03:25 PM |
| 3 | How common is being upfront about intentions?The entire idea of dating is to see whether or not you are compatible with this person and therefore ascertain your actual intent with them. You’re putting the cart before the horse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 03:22 PM |
| 2 | How common is being upfront about intentions?So this is relationship advice and not dating advice? That doesn’t seem to be the consensus of women I’ve dated though who would get pissed at me when I ended the relationship after realizing my intent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 03:15 PM |
| 2 | How common is being upfront about intentions?Yeah that’s a good point. This rhetoric also assumes people don’t like a little mystery. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 03:07 PM |
| 3 | How common is being upfront about intentions?That again, assumes decent honorable people are never undecided about their intent. Which is obviously incorrect. It’s black and white thinking that assumes moral people always know their own desires or never like a little mystery. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 03:01 PM |
| 4 | How common is being upfront about intentions?Just world fallacy. That assumes honorable people are never undecided about their intent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 02:59 PM |
| 1 | Being an Interesting and Engaging Person is more Important than being Nice or and AssholeIt’s women who have broad definitions of asshole jerks, not me. I’m not making up any definitions, just listening to what women say. We have the data that shows women find unavailable men more attractive. Maybe present me some counter-studies on the topic and your point will be stronger. Otherwise thanks for playing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 02:56 PM |
| 18 | Why don't more older women date and have sex with younger men?Because women don’t want just sex. They want relationships. And the relationships they desire at 30-40 can basically only be given by similarly aged men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 02:40 PM |
| 1 | Being an Interesting and Engaging Person is more Important than being Nice or and AssholeWhat person is upfront about their intent when dating? Seriously, think about it. Many people start dating without even being sure the person is LTR material, never mind marriage. The idea that people are upfront about their intention or even KNOW their own intention is absurd. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 02:19 PM |
| 1 | Male aging -a red pill that's hard to acceptSure desperation is part of it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 12:41 PM |
| 15 | Men in their 40s, Women in their 20s (cmv)I agree mostly with what you say but I will say that I think people here really, really underestimate the amount of mentally ill fucked up women with self-esteem and daddy issues who bang older dudes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 04:11 AM |
| 2 | Being an Interesting and Engaging Person is more Important than being Nice or and AssholeOh I disagree. “Why fuck assholes, not nice guys” is entirely covered by my comment. She fucks a dude. Complains to her orbiter about being an asshole. Then he asks the question “why not nice guys?” Its possible that she is either mislabeling “asshole” behaviors or has a very broad definition of what an asshole is. And then he thinks any man who stands up for himself and doesn’t self-sacrifice and acquiesce to women is an asshole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 04:04 AM |
| 1 | Being an Interesting and Engaging Person is more Important than being Nice or and AssholeMaybe, that’s possible | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 04:01 AM |
| 3 | Being an Interesting and Engaging Person is more Important than being Nice or and AssholeAnd what does that have to do with what I said? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 03:55 AM |
| 2 | Being an Interesting and Engaging Person is more Important than being Nice or and AssholeTrue, but women report the SAME man as more attractive when he is unavailable and it is suggested he’s in a relationship. I don’t think this has the opposite effect on men. From the studies I’ve read, men don’t report increased attraction to the SAME women if shes in a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 03:54 AM |
| 1 | Being an Interesting and Engaging Person is more Important than being Nice or and AssholeI knew a girl named Miriam. She was from the south of France. Equally as unreasonable lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 03:53 AM |
| 2 | Being an Interesting and Engaging Person is more Important than being Nice or and AssholeWhat do you mean? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 03:51 AM |
| 4 | Being an Interesting and Engaging Person is more Important than being Nice or and AssholeI’m not sure what you’re getting at here. I made the claim that women were indeed attracted to unavailable men. Whether or not the unavailability itself is what attracts them is besides the point. I’m not sure what your point is considering I never made a claim of unavailability itself being the cause. However, some researchers suggest pre-selection is at play here and that women use other women to vet for them. That is entirely possible among many other things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 03:50 AM |
| 1 | Male aging -a red pill that's hard to acceptYes it’s because women do prefer men their age. However, the average male 50 year old will still be more desirable to his dating cohort than the average male 25 year old to his dating cohort. It’s not that he’s necessarily getting hotter as he ages, but he is finding it easier to date and have sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 03:38 AM |
| 2 | Being an Interesting and Engaging Person is more Important than being Nice or and AssholeWhy do you think women report being more attracted to unavailable men? I also never claimed causation. It’s just matter of fact that a woman will be more attracted to you if you are unavailable. And women will also then call you an asshole for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 03:33 AM |
| 7 | Being an Interesting and Engaging Person is more Important than being Nice or and AssholeI disagree. It’s more attractive to mentally ill women but women in general pre-select in that they find men more attractive when desired by other women. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women-men-relationships-more-attractive-dating-romance-university-study-a8185026.html%3Famp https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-19770-8?utm_source=commission_junction&utm_medium=affiliate Unavailable or taken men are more attractive across the board. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 03:07 AM |
| 22 | Being an Interesting and Engaging Person is more Important than being Nice or and AssholeUnless you define what asshole behaviors actually are and everybody agrees to it then yes. And it’s not only merely because what guys say. It’s already useless because it assumes women never mislabel someone an “asshole.” “Jerk” behaviors often include not bending over to her every whim. Then she complains to her little orbiter about how her bf is an asshole. I think when bloops hear “asshole” they think of a guy who literally beats his gf. When terps think “asshole” I think they are just going … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 10:53 PM |
| 52 | Being an Interesting and Engaging Person is more Important than being Nice or and AssholeYou’re incorrectly assuming: a) asshole behaviors are universally agreed upon And b) women never mislabel someone an asshole Women will absolutely pursue unavailable guys and then call him an asshole for not texting back in a certain time range. An interesting “asshole” guy will be more attractive than the interesting nice guy, simply because women so often (correctly or incorrectly) label abundance and unavailability as asshole traits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 09:39 PM |
| 2 | What hurts more, getting a tattoo and/or piercing or rough sex?Don’t have because I’m not miserable like you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 09:16 PM |
| 1 | Housework discussionI think it’s also possible that more women than men find cleaning cathartic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 08:23 PM |
| 2 | What hurts more, getting a tattoo and/or piercing or rough sex?Slutiness is correlated to lower inhibitions and risk taking behaviors. Things like tattoos, smoking, drug use etc.. will all be correlated. I don’t think it’s because of pain tolerance at all necessarily. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 08:21 PM |
| 1 | Male depression has very little to do with relationships/dating.I think men are also more likely to hire cleaners. But no, single men still do less cleaning than single women in the aggregate. You can try to hamster out of the stats all your want though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 07:03 PM |
| -2 | Housework discussionWe have the stats on how many hours of housework single men vs single women do. Your experiences are irrelevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 07:01 PM |
| 1 | Male depression has very little to do with relationships/dating.Yes I prefer 80 foot yachts and immaculately cleaned. That says nothing about how many hours a week I put into cleaning my boat. I can live with a smaller boat and cleaning it less while women can’t. Women spend 2x more hours cleaning when they are single. You can’t blame this on men lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 06:53 PM |
| 1 | Male depression has very little to do with relationships/dating.It would only tell you something if you actually LIVED up to that preference and put the hours of labor into doing it. The data we have stats that single women do 2x the amount of housework as single men. I prefer 80’ yachts. That tells you nothing about how many hours I have spent on boat maintenance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 06:47 PM |
| 1 | Housework discussionLolol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Male depression has very little to do with relationships/dating.That has nothing to do with how many hours a day single men clean vs single women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 06:42 PM |
| 1 | Housework discussionI think the graph does suggest that men compromise in marriage and relationships. It’s the women here that don’t seem to be willing to compromise down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 06:38 PM |
| 2 | Male depression has very little to do with relationships/dating.https://www.nsf.gov/news/mmg/media/images/housework3_f.jpg No. I’m making a thread about you lol Single men and single women do vastly different amount of household chores. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 06:19 PM |
| 3 | Male depression has very little to do with relationships/dating.Women do more housework than men even when single. Why should the standard be female? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 06:08 PM |
| 2 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?It wasn’t the norm but some women were afforded the privilege of being a house slave, which continues to this day as a slur to signify the easier job. Nevertheless, like I already stated, both were equally as oppressed in my opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 05:06 PM |
| 2 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?Yes, the labor is not the same which you agreed to. Male slave prices were higher because their labor output was not equal. It often was not equal. Hence the difference in price of a slave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 04:43 PM |
| 2 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?Where? All my comments continually say that it was equally as oppressive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 04:36 PM |
| 2 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?Then why are you arguing? Why don’t you scroll up? My opinion has always been that both are equally as oppressed from the very first comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 04:26 PM |
| 2 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?I don’t doubt that. But you can’t make an objective truth statement that childbirth and rape is WORSE than being literally worked to death. I’m sure there were many male slaves who would take that over being worked to death as I’m sure there were many female slaves would prefer being worked to death instead. Your attempt to make an objective truth statement on subjective well-being is inherently incorrect. You also can’t say that nobody would work a man to death that wouldn’t work a woman to dea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 03:59 PM |
| 3 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?That’s not true at all. Men were literally worked to death. Women had value in childbirth, so were not worked to death. Men were not worked equally demanding for what their bodies were capable of. They were used for their greater capacity for labor until they died from it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 03:49 PM |
| 2 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?So now you agree that it wasn’t equal lol Strength and labor doesn’t scale evenly. It’s why powerlifters die at a young age. It doesn’t make those tasks comparatively easier at all. It’s more taxing to the human body. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 03:44 PM |
| 2 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?No it doesn’t. I’m not saying women didn’t do physical labor. I’m saying the labor wasn’t equal as the source outlines. In fact, male slaves were valued MORE because of the labor they could produce. It’s inherent that the labor produced is unequal in the inequality of a slaves value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 03:32 PM |
| 1 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?You’re always free to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 04:56 AM |
| 1 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?I’m sorry you feel that way about economics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 04:48 AM |
| 1 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?That’s not true. Everything has to do with economics and it’s the only objective measure we have. The masters found slave women less valuable. Hence their abuse wasn’t worth exploiting to the extent that they could abuse the men via forced labor. However, I still believe them to be both equally oppressed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 04:25 AM |
| 2 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?How so? It’s the same exact argument as this before one. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/dvbsew/how_many_of_you_think_women_were_never_oppressed/f7ddbo7/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 04:21 AM |
| 1 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?Nobody is arguing female slaves had it easy. My argument has always been that they were EQUALLY oppressed. I’m arguing against the idea that women had it WORSE. There is no objective way to measure who had it worse. But if I had to, I would use the market. Men were more valuable because of the amount of physical abuse they could withstand and the greater amount of labor they could produce. The exploitation of women wasn’t as economically viable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 04:20 AM |
| 5 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?Correct. So how could you make a judgement that women have always been oppressed? Human rights weren’t a thing for the vast majority of the human species. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 04:14 AM |
| 1 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?Then why are you continuing to argue that the labor was equal? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 04:09 AM |
| 2 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?Do you? That source clearly states that the labor wasn’t equal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 04:06 AM |
| 2 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?All forced labor is abuse. Male slaves were abused more because they performed more labor. They were valued more because of this difference in labor ability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 04:03 AM |
| 2 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?On small farms with few slaves, women were more likely to perform the same labor as men. Usually, however, especially on larger farms and plantations, fieldwork was divided along gender lines, with more physically demanding tasks assigned to male gangs. Men, for instance, might chop the wood for a fence, while women were put in charge of its construction. Men generally plowed the fields, while women hoed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 04:01 AM |
| 2 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?On small farms with few slaves, women were more likely to perform the same labor as men. Usually, however, especially on larger farms and plantations, fieldwork was divided along gender lines, with more physically demanding tasks assigned to male gangs. Men, for instance, might chop the wood for a fence, while women were put in charge of its construction. Men generally plowed the fields, while women hoed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 04:00 AM |
| 2 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?They literally did not do the same amount of labor. The fact that male slaves were more valuable because of the labor they could produce is evidence of this fact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 03:59 AM |
| 2 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?You read the source again. Male slaves were indeed more valuable because of the labor they produced and how it was different than female slaves. It’s inherent to the different price of a slave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 03:58 AM |
| 6 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?My own source does say that labor was not equal | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 03:57 AM |
| 7 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?Yes, but they didn’t do the same work at the same intensity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 03:44 AM |
| 2 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?Despite common factors, however, the circumstances of enslavement were different for black women and black men. The first slaves to be brought to the British colonies of North America were disproportionately male. Considered more valuable workers because of their strength, enslaved men performed labors that ranged from building houses to plowing fields. When the Dutch brought African and Creole women into New Amsterdam in the late 1620s, they did so not to supplement their workforce, but to prov… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 03:43 AM |
| 5 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?You cannot make an objective truth statement on whose situation is subjectively worse. Both male and female slaves were routinely physically abused. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 03:41 AM |
| 7 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?Exactly immediately. Humans have been living for 200,000 years without rights. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 03:40 AM |
| 5 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?You can’t objectively state that forced labor to death is any better than rape or child burdens. Women were not worked to death in the slightest. Older women retired to childcare. You can’t make objective truth statements on subjectivity. Many male slaves would have rather be a house slave or a female slave, as I’m sure many women would trade places with a male slave. To say one or the other is worse, is an objective truth statement that cannot be proved. Which is the point of my argument. They … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 02:56 AM |
| 8 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?Men faced more brutal physical abuse. They were literally worked to death. In fact, female house slaves were considered the easiest job despite the rape. “House slave” is still used today as a slur to signify this. Trying to argue who had the worst position, a male slave or a female slave, is hilariously misguided. But the consensus of slaves has always been that house slaves had it better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 02:31 AM |
| 1 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?I still don’t see how male slaves were abused less by comparison. Male slaves were physically abused every day considering they were used for manual labor against their will. The idea that a house female slave was any better or worse than being physically abused in the fields via forced labor every day is hilariously misguided. There is no objective worse or better to this treatment. In fact, if we are going by common consensus “house slave” has always been considered the easiest job despite bei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 12:54 AM |
| 3 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?I don’t believe private property is inherently oppressive but feminists do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 12:44 AM |
| 2 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?The idea that you can divorce “class oppression” from gender oppression is un-feminist. It’s why current feminism is intersectional. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 12:29 AM |
| 2 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?You made the original claim. You prove that female slaves were physically abused more often than male slaves. The apex fallacy is self evident in how feminists only speak of Kings and landowner men who had “voting rights” as “men.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 12:16 AM |
| 3 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?Male slaves were physically abused far more. Female slaves also did NOT do much of the same labor lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/19 11:57 PM |
| 2 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?Slave black males were not better or worse off than slave black women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/19 11:45 PM |
| 10 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?Men were routinely expected to fight and die. With privilege comes responsibility. Men were also slaves and physically abused. This idea that “men” as a class did any oppressing as collective hivemind of “men” is just incorrect. You’re also discounting the fact that recorded history is only 10,000 years of human history. For the remaining 190,000 of the human species, we lived as hunter and gatherers and tribes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/19 11:44 PM |
| 10 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?Lmao you have a hilarious misguided view of a regular old day on the life of peasants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/19 11:37 PM |
| 9 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?Typical lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/19 10:40 PM |
| 12 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?Lol no. And men were killed more often by other men and animals and workload stress due to physical labor. This idea that privilege means you are an oppressor is hilariously wrong and most certainly is not an absolute power over the other. Women also has privileges men did not. Rape and homicide laws were enforced in many tribes and societies. The idea that a male peasant is an oppressor just because he hypothetically could overpower his wife is such a hilariously retarded argument I don’t even … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/19 10:36 PM |
| 15 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?Okay? Men being capable of doing anything is not a proof of oppression lol women are also capable of killing their husbands. This feminist logic is immeasurably retarded. I’m sure you’ll now move the goalposts like all feminists do after such dumb logic is brought to light. You’ll now say: “well men were probably more likely to kill their wives. But what a certain minority % of men do is also not proof women were exclusively oppressed, so your point is moot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/19 10:31 PM |
| 20 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?Both men and women were extraordinarily oppressed. Women gained the right to vote immediately following all men getting the right to vote. It’s all relative. Both men and women barely had any “freedoms” or “rights” until relatively recently. Governments have always been authoritarian and overreaching without any say from the common man/woman. Most men and women lived cooperatively just to survive. Both genders were indeed treated horribly. You’re falling for some apex fallacy like all men were w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/19 09:33 PM |
| 1 | Watching internet porn has created this environment of "everyone is having sex but me" and destroyed everyone happiness.We are talking about women who engage in these acts, not necessarily porn stars. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/19 07:57 PM |
| 2 | Watching internet porn has created this environment of "everyone is having sex but me" and destroyed everyone happiness.They don’t not want a relationship because porn though lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/19 06:32 PM |
| 0 | Watching internet porn has created this environment of "everyone is having sex but me" and destroyed everyone happiness.Plenty of women have sex with men with no intent of a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/19 06:18 PM |
| 2 | Watching internet porn has created this environment of "everyone is having sex but me" and destroyed everyone happiness.I don’t think so. I think self-esteem, abusive parents and general daddy issues create these women, not necessarily porn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/19 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Watching internet porn has created this environment of "everyone is having sex but me" and destroyed everyone happiness.Just world fallacy. There are plenty of broken women with daddy issues who want to be fuckholes. Your daughters might even want to experience at least once being some fuckhole for a dude. Ain’t nothing wrong with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/19 06:06 PM |
| 4 | Watching internet porn has created this environment of "everyone is having sex but me" and destroyed everyone happiness.That’s the price of freedom. The same freedom your daughters have to pursue whatever relationships they desire is the same freedom men are using to treat them as fuckholes. And oftentimes, women want to just be fuckholes too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/19 05:50 PM |
| 3 | Watching internet porn has created this environment of "everyone is having sex but me" and destroyed everyone happiness.I don’t think porn is as large of a factor as you are making it out to be. The idea that an abundance of sex is the pinnacle of the modern person is not isolated to porn - it’s mass marketed. Women are expected to put out hard and fast. And the often do. The freedom to choose your own sexual proclivities is the same freedom used to pressure you into engaging in those acts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/19 04:20 PM |
| 13 | Watching internet porn has created this environment of "everyone is having sex but me" and destroyed everyone happiness.I’m not sure where you’re getting the idea that girls don’t get ass blasted in real life or take big cummies to the face. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/19 03:33 PM |
| 4 | To a lot of people marriage still means complete and total commitment, and anyone who thinks it’s worthless is the outlier.If it’s designed to be breakable via divorce then it’s not the ultimate form of commitment to begin with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/19 03:22 PM |
| 2 | To a lot of people marriage still means complete and total commitment, and anyone who thinks it’s worthless is the outlier.Commitment when divorce is illegal or impossible. If your husband left you after 1 year of marriage to bang a younger woman, you wouldn’t think marriage is the ultimate form of commitment lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/19 02:42 PM |
| 11 | To a lot of people marriage still means complete and total commitment, and anyone who thinks it’s worthless is the outlier.Divorce existing is proof that marriage is not the ultimate form of commitment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/19 02:28 PM |
| 1 | Pop Quiz: Objectification? Yes or no.To answer your question, if a girl feels objectified then it’s objectifying. I don’t think there is some objective standard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/19 02:18 PM |
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