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It's for a few reasons. It's easy for one hateful person to spread their hate far and wide, hurting people they'd never interact with in real life. A small group of passionately hateful people can make an opinion seem much more prevalent than it actually is. People with more moderate opinions tend to be more silent about their opinions. Which indirectly gives the lunatics more power. Crazy opinions get clicks. Which, thanks to the Almighty Algorithm, makes it more visible. Echo chambers make cer…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/24 03:07 AM
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I'd say it's probably more likely that those testy guys are throwing wide nets, causing more women to encounter them. It's like that story of a group of women who were comparing the worst boyfriend experiences they've had, only for them to realize their "worst boyfriend" was the same guy for all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 09:15 PM
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This man is out here outing his entire friend group.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:02 PM
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What was off with the formatting? Apart from the title, it looks like a copy-paste.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 06:52 PM
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People can already choose the gender of their babies. It's called Gender Selection. It's not perfect, but it's pretty dang successful. And while American law doesn't require that information on what genders are chosen is made public, it seems to be heavily (and proudly) biased towards girls over boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 06:34 PM
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If at first your post gets removed, try try again, huh? Well, you do have a better title this time. I'll give you that much. The content of the post still makes me want to leave this sub and never come back though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 06:07 PM
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Whoever is initiating has the responsibility of getting their partner turned on so they're in the mood as well. Seems like that's usually the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 02:09 AM
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That's definitely not true. Maybe it is of the sort of guy you become friends with, but it's definitely not something you can generalize to men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 12:49 AM
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Eh. Neurodivergent guys (and gals) have it harder, no doubt about that. But that's not the same thing as losing from the start. It just means you have to work harder. Of course, not wanting it badly enough to put in that effort is something else altogether. It's not a bad thing. You just need to be honest with yourself that it's not not about being unable. It's about not caring enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 12:47 AM
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I dunno, I'm pretty content with it. I'm not sure what I'd do if women suddenly started paying attention to me. Honestly, it'd probably freak me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 12:43 AM
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I swear there's been an uptick in the number of women doing this. I didn't see it at all before, but I keep running into it this month.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 06:33 PM
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Ok then. I'll start. But I'm a guy, so I'll be chopping off things that would be bare minimum for a woman. If I don't mention a point, that means I'll leave it as it is. Intelligent? How about "not stupid"? Confidence isn't a bare minimum requirement. Also, it's the same thing as your has a backbone point. Funny.... I do want it, but I don't think it qualifies as a bare minimum requirement. Maybe say "sometimes funny". Can hold a conversation is meh. It's a good requirement for a standard list, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:40 PM
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It's less about the points and more about how "bare minimum" is supposed to be something where you've lowered it down the absolute lowest standard you'd find acceptable. This is not a "bare minimum" list. It's just a list.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:50 PM
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That's a long fuckin' list for bare minimum standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:43 PM
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What feminist subs? I don't hang around in any, but I'll occasionally go poking through a handful of the obvious ones like askfeminists and I've never seen anything like this on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:02 AM
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A bit old fashioned of you. And not in a good way. I'm not a proponent of sleeping around. But I apply that standard fairly; I'm a virgin myself. So I feel perfectly fine in wanting my partner to also be a virgin. What you're doing is a double standard - one where you can sleep around and still have the same value, but where her value drops if she does the same thing. It's not exactly fair, you know? Even then, it's one thing if you just prefer women to have less experience. Everyone has their p…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:53 AM
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Look man, she's not dating any of those guys anymore. They're in the past. Just like you aren't dating any of your past girlfriends anymore. As long as she doesn't cheat on you, what's the difference between her and someone who's only slept with one or two guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:44 AM
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The mental gymnastics here are crazy. Actually no, it's the unrepentant sexism that's bonkers to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:41 AM
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It's hard for me to take anyone seriously when they start blaming things on The Patriarchy. It gives a powerful sense of just wanting to blame men and let women dodge all responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:30 AM
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"so prove me wrong or gtfo" Gee, with an attitude like that, I sure do think it's worth the effort
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:27 AM
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Wouldn't that same logic be applicable as a reason why guys shouldn't approach women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:23 AM
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I'm sorry for your friend. Most women don't feel like prey animals either. Hence why I said it's probably good to look into therapy for this. That you're already seeing a therapist makes that even easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:48 PM
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People online tend to be younger. So odds are actually pretty good that most of the people saying that are reasonably close to that age themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:58 PM
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Probably B. A can definitely be attractive, but B seems more likely to get and keep my attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:54 PM
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The real problem with TwoX and askfeminists isn't misandry. It's a problem, sure, but not the big one. It's that they focus almost exclusively on bad things about men and almost never mention anything good. If that's all you're seeing, it's going to leave you with a worse and worse impression of men. And like I said, it's perfectly valid to be wary of strange men. It's just that the way you described it sounded more extreme than a healthy wariness. Plus, when I checked out your profile to see wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 01:33 PM
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Blunt answer? Yeah. It's easy to see if you switch this to something like "is it bigoted to be scared of black people?" Frankly, it sounds like you need to see a therapist. Living in fear of half the population is a very unhealthy way to live. I'm not trying to say it isn't valid to be wary of strangers or disgusted by creepy old men. But from the way you've described your feelings and reactions, you've crossed the line from reasonable doubt into outright paranoia. Those comments of "men have it…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:37 AM
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She took advantage of him being so drunk that he didn't even remember what happened when he woke up. Seems like pretty obvious sexual assault to me. The only thing concealing that is him being twice her age. But it's not like she's a child; 18 years old is more than old enough to know better.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 11:13 PM
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It's not even just about the woman herself being a false accuser. It's really easy for someone else to see a situation like that and start spreading rumors that could get you in trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:15 AM
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That... Actually sounds rather unpleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:28 PM
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I'm not sure what you're talking about. I only see women in the comments hyping other women like that. When I see men in the comments it's usually them saying things like "fat cow" and stuff like that. But then again, this is half remembered stuff from Instagram. And I'm not on that app very often.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:00 PM
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Interesting how all the men are saying it's a good idea and all the women are saying it's unnecessary. I grew up with my dad telling me to take precautions like this since rumors are dangerous, powerful things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:56 PM
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Nah, the question sucks too. It's intentionally ambiguous so that two different people can imagine wildly different scenarios when asked it. That ambiguity is why everyone is arguing over it; clarifying the question almost immediately kills all the bickering. Yes, I understand the ambiguity is supposed to be the point. "Look how women are so afraid of men that they imagine the worst case scenario!" But that's an idiotic measuring stick of how dangerous men actually are to women. Perception of ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 02:23 PM
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That's just not true though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:57 PM
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Most women I've met are pretty bad at recognizing misandry. So they don't understand why there's a rising tide of men (especially young men) who are a bit miffed at the way they're being spoken of/to. Still, most of those guys don't fall into the manosphere. They're just silently disgruntled. It's just that when there's more men like that, there's going to be more who do get pulled into the orbit of the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 08:59 PM
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I donno whether I'd find you pretty if I just looked at you - I'd need to actually see you know that. But if I liked you as a person, then I might start finding you physically attractive even if I normally wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 09:42 PM
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Huh. Turns out I'm a solid Democrat overall. Thought I was a centrist. Though, well, I guess I am in the center on the "right vs left" bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 09:26 PM
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I think he wanted confirmation of his bias, yes. Hence why he asked Red Pillers, since they're the most likely to share his viewpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 04:58 PM
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If you can't find any good men... It seems like the logical conclusion would be that it's a you problem, right? Either it's actually you who's the shitty person or your taste in men is trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 04:55 PM
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Even the most advanced AI is still just an input/output machine. So your "relationship" is just it giving automatic responses to your inputs. If you fall in love with something like that, you've hit rock bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 03:00 PM
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How could you not? I mean, look at him! <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 05:54 PM
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Regardless of whether you mean it that way, that's how a whole lot of men are perceiving it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 05:43 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 05:39 PM
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I agree, but it's also just a murky situation. Like, the other person doesn't know how drunk a person is or how different their choices would be. (At least, assuming it's not intentional, but I feel like we can all agree that getting someone drunk because you know you can get drunk-them to have sex with you when sober-them won't should be some sort of crime.)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:45 PM
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Which consent poster was that? I have a vague recollection of it, but I can't remember what it actually said.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:07 PM
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I see the problem. He was talking about having no agency over the child being born. You took it as him it being no agency over the child being conceived. At least, I think so. u/PsychologicalEbb4277, is that what you meant?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:58 PM
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Your argument, as I understand it, is this: Men can choose to wrap their dick or use other birth control. They can also choose to just not have sex. As such, if they get someone pregnant, they've done it on purpose. Or at least have to be responsible for it. After all, they did fuck that woman. Why should they be allowed an opinion over whether an abortion happens? Or be allowed to walk away? . But that argument can very easily be flipped back into women. They're the ones who let the men stick t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:51 PM
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I think the point he's making is not to get with someone who might decide to retroactively withdraw consent. Or hey, maybe I'm totally wrong and he wants to pressure people into sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:44 PM
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Women also have agency over letting people ejaculate into them. By your logic, only rape victims should be allowed abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:40 PM
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I think the difference is mostly a subreddit culture thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:51 PM
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I knew what to expect from the title and I was still flabbergasted
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:40 PM
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So you're saying she's a wonderful lady, but I don't have a romantic attraction to her? Saying I'd "bail" isn't the right way to put it. But it wouldn't be fair to her or me if I forced myself to marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 05:03 PM
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That right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 04:20 PM
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Oh. You mean cocaine. We meant the drink. It's a soda.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 04:03 PM
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I think it's a wonderful idea. But practically speaking, it seems like a much better plan to actually make sure you and your partner are sexually compatible before getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:42 PM
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B, since she'll accuse you of harassment. Always choose the option that leaves you less vulnerable to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 03:58 AM
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...the fuck do you do with your cokes? Drizzle them on your pizza?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 02:51 AM
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<image> But look at how adorable he is! He's just a big ol' chunky boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 02:45 AM
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Surprise! It's the step family!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 02:30 AM
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I bet she watches porn. Or maybe she reads smut and thinks that's not porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 02:29 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:33 PM
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There's truth to both. Women shouldn't need to fear being attacked. (No one should.) But that's not how the world works; there's people out there who'll hurt them. They need to make responsible choices that help avoid those people. Is it always possible for them to avoid the predators? No. Sometimes you'll do everything right and still get hurt. But I find that those aren't normally the people having stupid arguments on the Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:27 PM
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I read it! But rereading it again, it does look like you picked the bear. I only know you didn't because I read a comment you made.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:19 PM
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It shows the exact same trends, but stops at 2017 while his stops at 2020. It's completely the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:45 PM
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...Did you even read your own post there? They say the same thing as the other guy's chart, just with less dramatic numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:15 PM
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Damn, what an incredibly bitchy response.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:02 PM
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The definition of rape requires forced penetration into the victim. So while women rape most certainly do rape men, it's not called that because they're forcing men to penetrate them, not the other way around. That's the same reason why headlines of female teachers grooming and raping male students will just say things like "teacher has sex with student". Because it's not legally rape even if it's obviously rape, same as it would be if a male teacher did that to a female student.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:54 PM
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I hear he's calling himself an influencer now
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:56 AM
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I'd honestly be a little frightened for her mental health. That's just not normal behavior. And if she's faking it... Well, that's still concerning, but for me this time. Being with someone like that doesn't sound healthy for me. I probably would take a while to notice though. I'm not an especially demanding person. At least, I don't think I am. And the idea that someone is changing everything about herself to fit me... It just isn't something I'd consider to be a realistic possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:20 AM
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I mean, I only got that far in the first place because my best friend at the time blackmailed me into it. It was actually one of the reasons that we started drifting further apart... In hindsight, she probably wouldn't have followed through on her threats. But at the time, I didn't want to put that to the test.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 11:34 PM
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This sounds so fake. But I'm going to choose to believe it anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 11:31 PM
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What's cobalt blue pill? The extreme version of the blue pill? Actually, back up a second. What does the blue pill even stand for in the first place? I'm not entirely sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 11:29 PM
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I've seen three posts on three different subs in the last two days where women were asking why men weren't approaching women anymore. The comments from men were almost identical to this. I'm not sure if the data actually backs that up, but I wouldn't be surprised. I've seen a few articles about how men are avoiding women in the workplace (with research data to back up the claims), but I don't know if that extends to everything. Not like I'd have any personal experience though, given that I haven…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 11:28 PM
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well built black man predominantly white community Yep, the data checks out. Still sucks though, even if it's not exactly unexpected. I hope you find a good community for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 11:23 PM
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All it took was some grooming Man that caught me off guard. Did a full on double take before rereading the sentence and realizing what you meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 11:20 PM
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I don't know too much about it. I just know that the first video was supposedly a guy going around asking random women on the street if they would choose a man or bear. I watched the video on one of the news articles I read when I was originally trying to figure out what in the world bear vs man was.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 10:08 PM
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I've actually had a lot of fun reading the befuddled reactions of women who chose man as they see so many other women choose bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:09 PM
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(The question was actually invented by a man. It was just spread from there by women.)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:05 PM
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The single biggest problem with the bear question is that it vilifies men in general, not just the predators. Basically, when women have to say "not all men" whenever they answer/explain their answer, that means it's just a bad question that provokes bad answers. Also, it was incredibly frustrating how agreeing would mean admitting to being a problem and how arguing would get me the "guess all the women you know would choose bear, huh?" There were so many women whose smug condescension was just …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 07:25 PM
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Yeah, that's the big take-away I have from this. Like, is it irrational for women to be wary of strange men? Not at all; men are usually capable of overpowering women if they want to. I'd be wary too if I was alone with a person I didn't know who could do what they wanted to me and I couldn't stop them. There's nothing wrong with that. It just needs to be tempered by the knowledge that the vast majority of men aren't actually going to do anything. Thing is, that's not the sorts of things they're…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/24 11:34 AM
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What's SMV?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:43 AM
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I mean, if I can have that exact encounter where it's terrifying but turns out fine in the end, I'd absolutely take it. It'd be an awesome experience in hindsight and great story to tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:15 AM
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I mean, women are too. Less so than men? Sure, for violent crimes. But still not even in the same ballpark are bears. Yet the vast majority of women picking bear would pick "woman" if that was the other option. Which brings us back to how they're picking "bear" for emotional reasons, not rational ones. I don't really blame the women, mind you. It's a terrible question designed to make it easy to imagine the worst outcome for the man and compare it to the best outcome for meeting a bear. The more…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:03 AM
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I didn't. I went straight to the comment section with my metaphorical popcorn. But I'm not actually answering the question, so that's fine for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:00 AM
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What's idpol?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:58 PM
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Sorry about your mom man. I hope it's as painless as something like that can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:51 PM
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It's a pretty rotten question that's designed to support imagining the best outcome for the bear encounter paired with the worst outcome with a man encounter. The minute you start clarifying the question so everyone has the same situation in their imagination, it becomes dramatically less divisive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:39 PM
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I'm bearly holding onto my sanity with all these damned bear posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 05:01 PM
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In conclusion, social media sucks. Now that's a perspective I can get behind!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:54 PM
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No. Let me do it like this instead of a sentence: Feminist: "men" and "women" <-- I don't like this Normal Person: "humans" <-- I like this
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 05:45 AM
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Nothing. You read the sentence wrong - I said they treat it as "men" and "women" rather than as "human"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:45 AM
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I mean, the only reason a man would pick a woman over a man in this situation is for sex. So it's not exactly surprising that the ones saying "woman" are saying it's for the sex. But the vast, vast majority seem to be saying "man". At least, so far as I've scrolled. I haven't reached the bottom yet, so maybe there's a pile of men picking women down there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:21 AM
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What I'm seeing in the comments goes something like: Men: "Yeah, it sucks." Women: "I don't care. Even if this is true (and I don't think it is), women get worse from men." Geez ladies. I've seen precisely one of you actually sympathizing with OP's situation instead of dismissing it or jumping into a lecture on how bad men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:54 AM
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I'm not actually convinced of that. Jocks don't train to punch people in the face, knock them to the ground, and beat the devil out of them. They might have greater physical fitness, but fighting needs more than that. But either way, that's not the comparison I'm making. I thought I'd been clear on that. I'm comparing average/strong women to weak/average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:42 AM
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Isn't it just "I really liked this thing, so it was hard to move on"? But I donno. I've never had sex, so maybe I just don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:40 AM
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You're talking averages. I'm talking individuals. On average, yes, you're right. Men are stronger than women and that's just a fact. But an individual woman can be stronger than an individual man. An easy off the cuff example is that I'd get my ass beat by a female MMA fighter. As would most men. But the woman doesn't need to be a trained fighter to be stronger than a man. Going to the gym and getting in good physical shape has a very solid chance of leaving her noticeably stronger than men who …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:35 AM
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I've never actually met a woman who does that sort of thing in real life though. The closest I've gotten is women making jokes about it. Social media isn't a perfect representation of the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:26 AM
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Uh, you're sort of right. Think of it as staggered ladders. One ladder starts higher than the other and goes to a higher spot. That's men when it comes to physical strength. On average, the rungs for that ladder are absolutely higher than the rungs for the other ladder (women). But say those rungs are labeled F to A, with F being the bottom rung and A being the top. Man's F is higher than Women's F. Men's A is also higher than Women's A. But women's A is higher than Men's B. Their B is higher th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:21 AM
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Nah, that's an idiotic thing to say. For one, plenty of women are stronger than plenty of men. For another, the woman doesn't actually have to be stronger in an absolute sense. She just needs to be strong enough to bully the man. Even beyond that, most rape cases for both men and women aren't situations where the victim is being beaten and pinned to the ground. It's things like getting them drunk, drugging them, or using threats of social consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:12 AM
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I think hi meant it as a single point, not two. That shouldn't, for no reason, be able to end a marriage and take half your partner's assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:07 AM
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Are we saying she introduces herself as a feminist in the first minute of meeting her or that, if asked, she would say she was? Because the two are very different. A whole lot of women would call themselves feminists if asked. Maybe even a majority; I'm not sure. But what they really mean is that they support women being legally, socially, and culturally on a level playing field with men. I consider that the default, so I don't give myself any special label. The same goes for most people my age,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:49 PM
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This is probably the best answer. Besides, women have always had certain standards for men. That they had less control over their lives didn't change that; attractive men always got more attention from women than unattractive men. Now, with social media and porn and all sorts of other media, women's standards are being affected just like men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:16 PM
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Probably because a lot of the time, the lesbian relationships are being presented as sparkly and better. So people bring that up as a "well, no, they're just normal relationships with all the same problems."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:55 PM
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As a male you would rather fuck an animal than nothing at all. Helluva claim. Especially given the huge numbers of men who are adult virgins. Myself included.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:19 PM
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Wouldn't being small and non-threatening make you easier prey?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:30 PM
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Guys care more about muscle than women do Kinda sorta. A very large number of women absolutely prefer a guy to be fit. And a very small number prefer a guy to be genuinely overweight. Basically, you don't need to be built like a Greek god. But being in decent shape will help out a lot. You know, casual gym goer sort of fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 12:43 AM
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20s is roughly "young adult" area. 30s are where you start being just "adult"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 06:26 PM
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Why not give her a chance to prove you right (or wrong)?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 06:22 PM
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How so? I've seen it a few times now, but I've never been able to find anything about how it was actually generated.
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