Msbroberts Archive

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1	Orgasm Gap - To what extent are men responsible for a woman orgasming? I have never claimed studies, you have. This is an article, cite the source. This also speaks about a very specific demographic, even if it is true.If you don’t know the difference, I stand by my deliberately obtuse opinion .	/r/MensRights	28/07/26 04:12 AM
1	Orgasm Gap - To what extent are men responsible for a woman orgasming? Cite your sources. Asking for responsive desire is communication, and those using such terminology are likely in therapy. It’s not moving goal post or wanting others, men are just not willing to put in the work. Heaven forbid his wife doesn’t center him!	/r/MensRights	28/07/26 02:44 AM
1	Orgasm Gap - To what extent are men responsible for a woman orgasming? What about asking for the things that build responsive desire; emotional safety, slow build, more non sexual touch, more communication….says that she doesn’t love him?	/r/MensRights	28/07/26 02:04 AM
1	Orgasm Gap - To what extent are men responsible for a woman orgasming? Sorry, that is such a cope. If you truly think speaking about responsive desire is spouting, then you not only don’t understand women, but you are being deliberately obtuse.	/r/MensRights	27/07/26 10:34 PM
1	Orgasm Gap - To what extent are men responsible for a woman orgasming? I think this is shifting; today I think more women are taking more agency. As an older women, that’s just not the way society was. Just as today you hear much more about the male loneliness epidemic, when I was younger women worried much more about being alone and sexual satisfaction was rare for women….it was just the way it was. If you were ‘too worried’ about sexual satisfaction, you were a slut. Do you consider bringing your partner to orgasm a burden? I would hope that mutual satisfaction a…	/r/MensRights	27/07/26 10:13 PM
1	Orgasm Gap - To what extent are men responsible for a woman orgasming? That is not true. A women can be completely in love and desire a man….but he lacks skill and the motivation to improve his lovemaking skills thus the orgasm gap. Society has long trained women and men that it is expected that a man reach orgasm with sex, and that is often the end of sex. If the women doesn’t achieve orgasm…oh, well.	/r/MensRights	27/07/26 07:50 PM
1	"Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel bad I read your posts because I can and had a feeling they would be relevant, and I was right. You really can’t hide from everyone, even if you’re actively hiding from yourself. So you lost your good job. Even if you want to hide from your subconscious, the fact remains that deep down you felt that this was one of the best things you had going for you. You mistake women who can be friends with a guy, but see that there are not the kind of man whom they would quantify as a man worth dating, so they d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/26 05:10 PM
13	"Covenant Men" idea to solve the dating crisis... not that people would sign on, but it would work Pair bonding has been disproven.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/26 03:20 AM
2	"Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel bad You seem very obsessed with this interaction. You first posted about this girl with the biter ex 9/24 and in that post you said that your date with her was about a year ago….so here it is years later and you’re still trying clinging to this one interaction? You said in your OP this is the last girl you’ve dated? If you haven’t had a date in almost 3 years, even though "I work out, I eat pretty well, I'm about six foot, I have a good job," don’t you think you might want to consider your personali…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/26 04:09 AM
5	CMV: Young women despise young men in the context of relationships I think that is changing rapidly. For the younger generations, more and more are just not interested in dating at all, I know my daughter and her peers currently feel this way. They have all had boyfriends and had such negative experiences that they are already burned out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/26 06:09 PM
6	CMV: Young women despise young men in the context of relationships A good analogy is gun safety. When you are learning to use a firearm, for safety you’re taught to treat each gun as loaded, even if you think it’s not. Because safety is the most important issue. Women have begun to feel the same. We can’t tell which men are dangerous, which men are emotionally unstable, which ones are just misogynistic, which ones are just assholes. Because there is so much manosphere rhetoric and very little push back from other men, women are going to, for their safety and pe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/26 05:49 PM
4	Why do you believe it is that when men and women have children at home, men tend to work more and women tend to work less? This isn’t a peer reviewed study. This is a biased story from 2012, citing articles and estimates. It doesn’t even compare single dads to single moms….just single moms to two parent households. "…divorce tends to double a child’s risk of a serious negative outcome. Specifically, she found that “twenty-five percent of youths from divorced families in comparison to 10 percent from non-divorced families did have serious social, emotional, or psychological problems.” "This recognition that it is eas…	/r/MensRights	18/06/26 12:14 AM
6	Why do you believe it is that when men and women have children at home, men tend to work more and women tend to work less? You are not citing a peer reviewed study. This is a biased story from 2012, citing articles and estimates. It doesn’t even compare single dads to single moms….just single moms to two parent households. "…divorce tends to double a child’s risk of a serious negative outcome. Specifically, she found that “twenty-five percent of youths from divorced families in comparison to 10 percent from non-divorced families did have serious social, emotional, or psychological problems.” "This recognition that i…	/r/MensRights	18/06/26 12:07 AM
0	Why do you believe it is that when men and women have children at home, men tend to work more and women tend to work less? This isn’t a peer reviewed study. This is a biased story from 2012, citing articles and estimates. It doesn’t even compare single dads to single moms….just single moms to two parent households. "…divorce tends to double a child’s risk of a serious negative outcome. Specifically, she found that “twenty-five percent of youths from divorced families in comparison to 10 percent from non-divorced families did have serious social, emotional, or psychological problems.” "This recognition that it is eas…	/r/MensRights	17/06/26 11:21 PM
1	Why do you believe it is that when men and women have children at home, men tend to work more and women tend to work less? Well said. It’s refreshing to see this said. ETA: imagine downvoting a man for Gasp! acknowledging the hard work his wife puts in. The horrors! I think it speaks volumes about the type of people responding to this thread.	/r/MensRights	17/06/26 11:09 PM
–	Why do you believe it is that when men and women have children at home, men tend to work more and women tend to work less? That’s a strawman argument, I never said anything about single mothers. But, let’s address it: I think you mean one study, not math, shows worse outcomes. I am aware of that study, you are parsing the conclusion. The conclusion of that study includes socioeconomic factors that states single dads have higher incomes that leads to more support via paid caregivers. As well as more social support, family members often pitch in more for single dads vs single moms.	/r/MensRights	17/06/26 11:02 PM
2	Why do you believe it is that when men and women have children at home, men tend to work more and women tend to work less? There are physical/biological reasons, there are cultural reasons, there are societal reasons, there are pragmatic/economical reasons. It should go without saying, these are not exclusive things; nor that adaptations haven’t been made; nor that everyone is a monolith…but by and large… Only women can have children, therefore they must take time off each time they have kids. Sometimes that can be minimal, but depending on their health that can be lengthy before, immediately after and sometimes rec…	/r/MensRights	17/06/26 09:25 PM
1	Why do you believe it is that when men and women have children at home, men tend to work more and women tend to work less? There are physical/biological reasons, there are cultural reasons, there are societal reasons, there are pragmatic/economical reasons. It should go without saying, these are not exclusive things; nor that adaptations haven’t been made; nor that everyone is a monolith…but by and large… Only women can have children, therefore they must take time off each time they have kids. Sometimes that can be minimal, but depending on there health can be lengthy before, immediately after and sometimes recovery…	/r/MensRights	17/06/26 09:15 PM
1	Women are larping loneliness. Nice strawman, mate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/26 12:41 AM
1	Women are larping loneliness. "Fighting a losing battle"….naw, 20 years is a drop in the bucket; beside I see no trustworthy empirical data, and no antidotal evidence that women won’t continue to use these strategie, and create more. I see a vast difference in attitude between my son and DIL and their peers (38/39) and my daughter and her peers (17). "They don't need men so they can pull themselves up by their bootstraps with their superior agency and social & emotional intelligence." Agreed "women don't value a bunch of men…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/06/26 11:07 PM
–	Women are larping loneliness. That’s exactly what not mutually exclusive means: both can be true. As far as women striving to create social support for themselves, there is a lot to factor in, including 1000s of years of social and cultural conditioning. To be fair, men are struggling with similar issues. For 1000s of years they have been the providers and protectors, but now are being asked to take equal share and responsibility in domestic labor and child rearing. That doesn’t mean that those things are not worth striving …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/06/26 09:55 PM
–	Women are larping loneliness. Those things aren’t mutually exclusive. One can feel and express loneliness from a lack of romantic love and still strive to create a life that brings them joy through hobbies, social circles, friends and family, fellowship via groups and clubs. Can both men and women do that absolutely, but women tend to do it more. Women often do have more emotional intelligence, which leads them to be more self aware and take accountability for their own happiness. Where as men tend to complain more and push …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/06/26 07:30 PM
3	Women are larping loneliness. Honey, it’s your coping story, tell it anyway you want. But, if you’re going to ignore facts that are easily proven with a 10 second search, then you’re only proving my point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/06/26 06:04 PM
3	Women are larping loneliness. I think you fail to understand that women have a heightened awareness and can access fairly quickly. Sociologist call it predictive processing, and say women have a heightened awareness of behaviors and behavior indicators. In dating apps, many women I know use the burned haystack method, where learning to watch for troubling language is a core tenant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/06/26 04:47 PM
–	Women are larping loneliness. It’s exactly the point. You provided the analogy, I was just following along. If the men on the shelf all exhibit poor behavior, including lack of self control, lack of empathy, lack of accountability, not willing to be a true partner…..then in the end they cause more harm than good and are they are not really a choice…..so, they get left on the shelf.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/06/26 04:30 PM
–	Women are larping loneliness. Of course! Because she recognizes that the All-Bran is going to tear up her stomach, and make her feel ill. It’s not really a choice, so she would rather go without.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/06/26 03:44 PM
–	Women are larping loneliness. Sadly, these days average is shitty…and I am not talking looks. I am talking, a decent human being with emotional intelligence wanting a true partnership. I am sure you consider your self at least average, right? But thinking women are larping loneliness is shitty. It shows no empathy and a complete lack of social awareness. Several women have tried to explain it to you, but you haven’t listened to a single one or even slightly considered their point of view, you’ve been nothing but defensive. Y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/06/26 01:33 PM
5	A guy can be attractive to women regardless of whether he’s actually a good person. I think they are becoming way less common. My generation lived on this mantra, some version of: a good woman can help change a man for the better. Younger generations, rightfully so are noping out of that. No more falling for ‘what a man could be’, show me you are a good human being first.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 05:19 PM
3	A guy can be attractive to women regardless of whether he’s actually a good person. Or women don’t have sex with either sexy men or non sexy men because they are not good humans.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 04:10 PM
2	A guy can be attractive to women regardless of whether he’s actually a good person. Agreed. What I see a huge difference in is…..my peer group was willing to put up with these traits, explain away unequal behavior, seeing ‘potential’, etc to be with a man; to have a relationship, get married, start families….but younger women are not. My generation considered getting married/having kids as a requirement for overall life happiness and ‘success’. Younger Women are actively choosing to stay single. They are vocal about what they want. If they can’t have it, they are ok being alone…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 04:09 PM
1	A guy can be attractive to women regardless of whether he’s actually a good person. I think younger generations are. I think younger women, by in large, are skipping sex altogether.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 03:52 PM
2	A guy can be attractive to women regardless of whether he’s actually a good person. She has had boyfriends, she doesn’t view relationships as adversarial, she just find them not worth her time and effort because it’s too often not reciprocated. I am retired now, but just a few years ago managed a team of over 100 young people, late teens to early 30s, almost all the women were single and expressed similar ideas….it’s not that they didn’t desire romantic relationship, it’s more they were resigned to not having them due to men’s behavior. They felt overwhelmed by the continued la…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 03:47 PM
2	A guy can be attractive to women regardless of whether he’s actually a good person. Do you understand there is a difference between a 2 second look and subsequent thought of…."he’s cute" or "he’s sexy"…..but then not wanting to talk to him or date him, let alone have sex with him. Women can recognize physical traits, but have not desire to act on them. More importantly, they can actively decide to live a life without men based on the way they behave.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 03:31 PM
2	A guy can be attractive to women regardless of whether he’s actually a good person. No, I said she and her friends won’t have sex with them, you conveniently cut that out. ETA: I don’t know if it was a rapid response due to looking for confirmation bias, or being deliberately obtuse. I didn’t belabor the horror she expressed when she does speak with men because I feel that’s represented often in these conversations, so I went for the more long term, underlying issue. But yes, she expressed a frustration and freighting level of misogynistic behavior in men that is off putting, b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 03:17 PM
3	A guy can be attractive to women regardless of whether he’s actually a good person. Attractive in a he’s cute, sexy way…..but not enough to have a sustained relationship way nor have sex with way. There is another recent thread about why young people aren’t having sex these days and a young woman explains it well and it echoed just what my daughter recently told me. We just had a very frank conversation less than a week ago when I was asked about her weekend plans. She is active: goes out with friends, volunteers, is part of theatre group. Enjoys hikes to a nearby river/nature …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 03:05 PM
4	The reason why young people are having less sex is pretty straight forward. u/Mysterious-Ad5785, I think this is experience is more common than you think. This is exactly what my daughter and her friends express, I detailed it a bit below. There is also biology involved in some of the reduce pure physical desire involved. There are many peer reviewed studies about the changes in gene expression due to current environmental conditions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 03:00 PM
6	The reason why young people are having less sex is pretty straight forward. This is exactly what my daughter expresses. We just had a very frank conversation less than a week ago when I was asked about her weekend plans. She is active: goes out with friends, volunteers, is part of theatre group. Enjoys hikes to a nearby river/nature area. She invites her friends home, and I make myself scarce so they can be youthful. They swim, make pizza, sit around the fire until late into the night and laugh and sing. She is not home bound, but not afraid to be at home either; she ju…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 02:56 PM
3	Some women are avoiding relationships because of social anxiety I am not sure if this has actually risen….or people are just more open to being honest about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 02:00 PM
1	Dating the ugly girl won't save you. 😂🤣 All you are quoting is all the qualifiers they have added as outlined on page 230. Like I said, I get that language like this is hard to understand, but two of us have tried to tactfully explain it to you. I don’t know if you’re being deliberately obtuse as rage bait, or truly don’t understand the science…..either way I am bored, it’s hot and I am going for a swim. I am not going silent because you are right as you arrogantly claimed before (while two people were actively debating you)….I am …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/26 08:07 PM
1	Dating the ugly girl won't save you. It isn’t peer reviewed. The author adds in subjective data, and supplements missing data for highest value’.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/26 07:52 PM
1	Dating the ugly girl won't save you. https://preview.redd.it/cziu3l7mmw6h1.jpeg?width=2732&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f0894b706bbf8e6cac04fff1ec321c3e23ab59dd This table shows all the quantifies the author added as outlined in the body text. These were not part of the original studies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/26 07:37 PM
0	Dating the ugly girl won't save you. It’s ok, I understand that you don’t know how to read an analysis, many don’t. You don’t even get that the quote you are using shows the author introduces value assigned by their own subjective opinion, "The ideal weight for men is considered to be normal to heavyweight" , "Thinness is a dimension of attractiveness for women". There is not definition or quantification where these suppositions came from.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/26 07:29 PM
1	Dating the ugly girl won't save you. Keep reading I provided the actual quote where it shows those variables were introduced as quantitative data for ‘attractiveness’. The disclaimer about missing data is just after. These tables, are the adjusted tables, adding in the new variables. ETA: The quote you provided actually is the author’s reasoning for including weight in the analysis, "Thinness is a dimension of attractiveness for women", even though it wasn’t in original ‘attractiveness‘ data, which was a self reported data point….y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/26 07:18 PM
0	Dating the ugly girl won't save you. Claims you don’t know because you couldn’t be arsed to read the actual study, you just took your confirmation bias and ran with it. I broke down above why this study is BS. Another good example of this happening is the infamous ridiculous ‘pair bonding’ study which has been debunked so many times most people don’t even attempt it cite it anymore, but it remains quoted by numerous religious organizations who paid for the study in the first place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/26 07:16 PM
-1	Dating the ugly girl won't save you. u/JollyRoger66689 and u/Somerandomdudereborn This is why you always need to read the study not an article or the quotes. You need to know the methodology, sample size, who paid for the study. In an article, you don’t even know if it is being quoted correctly. In this case, this is not a study but an analysis… The author assigns value to socioeconomic standing, college degree level, weight, and ethnicity values to attractiveness, when none of those variables were associated to the original studie…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/26 06:57 PM
–	Women find good men sexually appealing 😂🤣 Well that really wounds me coming from….in your own words, you, "struggle with basic life skills, am neet, and never had a gf?"	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 06:30 AM
–	Women find good men sexually appealing What the heck does abortion have anything to do with what I said….talk about projection. Bigots, misogynistic, homophobic, assholes are good guys?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 06:18 AM
-1	Women find good men sexually appealing For me, this is 100% true. Bigots, misogynistic, homophobic, assholes make me just want to become celibate. Decent, kind men make me weak in the knees.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 05:05 AM
1	Women aren't more emotionally intelligent. Men just complain less Nothing you mentioned her is emotional intelligence. If you’re going to to make a thread, you might want to do a little research. Emotional intelligence is self awareness, self control, internal motivation, empathy, and social skills.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 04:36 AM
0	If we are going to save modern dating, men need to experience an ego death in mass. Sorry, sometimes I forget the lay world is unaware that significant in studies means measurable difference that is not by accident; therefore conclusions can be assured. We examine this because assured measurable differences establish controllable outputs and trends. The number you were trying to recall was 18%, which is significant to me in both a scientific and lay definition. Also, for simplicity sake I went with the study that I knew you were referring to by the conclusion you were reporting…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/26 02:09 PM
0	If we are going to save modern dating, men need to experience an ego death in mass. Well, yes and no….. Both report moments of loneliness, which is understandable, everyone can feel that way at different points. But if you read the full report, women significantly seek support more often; furthermore, a significant higher percentage of women report being able to find relief from that support. It’s also noted that women find significant support and relief in same sex groups, but men find little relief with same sex groups. So, as I was saying, women are actively building communi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/26 05:23 AM
0	If we are going to save modern dating, men need to experience an ego death in mass. Fair enough. In the spirit of your response, I will answer in earnest. Comments like your original one are exactly what emotional intelligence is about. You are responsible for self management; your thoughts, feelings, and emotions. While you may feel that women are flaunting themselves…hopefully, you can be self aware enough (another aspect of emotional intelligence) to realize that is projection. You have no way of knowing why a women is dressing a certain way or acting a certain way. And it’s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/26 02:29 AM
1	If we are going to save modern dating, men need to experience an ego death in mass. Please forgive my typos…it won’t let me edit, probably due to the length. I am the worst typist!	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/26 12:53 AM
-1	If we are going to save modern dating, men need to experience an ego death in mass. Exactly, so take accountability for your ridiculous views.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/26 12:44 AM
1	If we are going to save modern dating, men need to experience an ego death in mass. And that is a valid data point in a way. Studies show that when the woman earns more than the man when she marries him, then the marriage is no more likely to end in divorce, but when the woman starts earning less than the man and then earns more than him during the marriage, it causes odds of divorce to increase. Thank you for the acknowledgement, but if your doing to try and use statistics as support, cite your sources. They say "emotionally intelligent" but the problem is, "emotionally intell…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/26 12:42 AM
1	If we are going to save modern dating, men need to experience an ego death in mass. Women are not responsible for the way you interpret the way they dress or act. You are responsible for your own thoughts and actions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 10:55 PM
2	If we are going to save modern dating, men need to experience an ego death in mass. Agreed, a true partnership includes earning a reasonable wage to one’s own socioeconomic goals. A driven, high earning woman might not need the man to earn more or even as much as themselves….but they likely want a man earning enough to contribute to their goals. But also, there are plenty of people who, want only make enough enough between the two partners to live comfortably. I thinks it’s fair to say that a woman, well earning or not, wants to bust her hump to have a lazy partner. With that s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 10:00 PM
1	If we are going to save modern dating, men need to experience an ego death in mass. Personal anecdotes, but you specifically asked…. I, in fact, earned more than my husband, by a significant amount our entire marriage (35+ years), in fact he did a SAHD gig, twice; pragmatically, it made more sense for him to stay at home while I went back to work in 2 out of my 4 pregnancies less than a week after giving birth. Also he retired early, at 56, 7 years ago. I retired early, at 57, 2 years ago. He is also only, as he jokes, "5’ 8" in high heels". I am 5’6" for reference. As a high e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 09:52 PM
6	If we are going to save modern dating, men need to experience an ego death in mass. Documented by whom? If you are going to try and assert your view as fact, cite your source. It can’t be ‘just accept my fact, because that is the way it’s always been and will always be.’ Throwing around the word documented is irresponsible and hubristic. Not to mention, this change in society overall, where women have the opportunity to earn as much as men…if not more, is in fact part of why women care less and less about men being the ‘provider’ and wanting more true equal partnerships with em…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 08:55 PM
5	If we are going to save modern dating, men need to experience an ego death in mass. But this change in society overall, where women have the opportunity to earn as much as men…if not more, is in fact part of why women care less and less about men being the ‘provider’ and wanting more true equal partnerships with emotionally intelligent men. Women, by and large, are less willing to accept men just for their paycheck. which is causing the huge gap in what women truly desire (instead of men’s projections about wealth, height, etc) and what men are willing to step up to the plate w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 08:27 PM
2	If we are going to save modern dating, men need to experience an ego death in mass. No less relevant than your personal thoughts or views leading to your point. You seem to be missing the entire premise of discussion and an exchange of ideas, points, perspective. You present your view as fact, my opposition to that posit, while highlighting my experience as support may be anecdotally, it is nevertheless very relevant to my point. You stating it’s irrelevant, does not make it so. It only makes it clear that you are unwilling to consider other’s views and perspectives. Bottom lin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 08:18 PM
0	If we are going to save modern dating, men need to experience an ego death in mass. I strongly disagree. I think hypergamy is apocryphal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 08:03 PM
1	If we are going to save modern dating, men need to experience an ego death in mass. I find this to be true, but the cause and effect are unknown. Today women are much happier to be alone rather than settle; whereas men now seem to fear being alone similarly to women of past (old maid troupe). It is generally accepted that women needing/wanting men in the past was far more pragmatic vs romantic. I don’t think men truly desire partnership with women, if they did they would be happy to do the emotional work to have one. They just miss being centered and catered to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 08:00 PM
6	If we are going to save modern dating, men need to experience an ego death in mass. Hard disagree on this one. I earned far more than my husband for the majority of our 35 year marriage…and due to my women friends often being made from co-workers, who were all high earners, many, if not most had the same dynamic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 07:47 PM
0	If we are going to save modern dating, men need to experience an ego death in mass. Except those in our social circle, especially if it’s large, which mine is, shapes our perception and views. So in my case over the course of the last decade, I have been close enough to hundreds of single young people….all of whom have shared the same thoughts. Most women are not hung up on wealth or height, but many men think they are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 07:42 PM
3	If we are going to save modern dating, men need to experience an ego death in mass. Based on my adult children and their peers experience, as well as the hundreds of young adults I managed, you are over estimating women’s desires to have a ‘provider’. Other than not wanting a man who is truly unmotivated, what women express over and over is wanting someone who is emotionally intelligent and wants a true partnership. Women is my orbit do not speak about money/provider/height and the myriad of other projections from men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 06:55 PM
1	If we are going to save modern dating, men need to experience an ego death in mass. Agreed. But one of the reasons I love Michael Polen’s ‘How to Change your Mind’.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 06:48 PM
4	If we are going to save modern dating, men need to experience an ego death in mass. That’s interesting. My boomer husband of 35+ years is the opposite, as are most men in my peer group. My boomer husband who very much waffles between ingrained social stereotypes & entitlement to very modern views (partnership and feminism/egalitarianism). When ever partaking of the occasional psychedelics drifts far more towards feminism/egalitarianism. Going so far as to saying….’men are assholes, including myself far too often’ in one variation or another during the trip and for a few weeks a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 06:46 PM
-2	If we are going to save modern dating, men need to experience an ego death in mass. Women can’t find these types of men, and are okay with being alone/building different communities/support/lifestyles moving forward rather than putting up with men that lack emotional intelligence who are seeking to be centered rather than looking for true partnership.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 06:37 PM
-4	If we are going to save modern dating, men need to experience an ego death in mass. I don’t disagree with any of this, except I would add….. By and large, (most) women are more accepting of these basic facts and are actively building communities, support, and lifestyles that mesh with these facts and preparing for what the future looks like under these conditions. Where as (most) men are longing to a return of being centered.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 06:31 PM
-9	My office door is open when I speak to a woman, and there is a third person present. This is not negotiable. Any sensitive matters may be communicated to me through email or over the telephone. 😂🤣 Are you being disingenuous or just obtuse? A ’policy’ that factually is pure rhetoric (due to it logistically never happening anyway) of a highly privileged person comes nowhere near the original concept proposed here. Dream on, but do you honestly believe that any corporation would allow a policy like this? They wouldn’t; not just because it would absolutely open them to a lawsuit (even if one believed it shouldn’t, it would)…but more importantly, it would hinder productivity and thus profit…	/r/MensRights	30/05/26 12:23 PM
-13	My office door is open when I speak to a woman, and there is a third person present. This is not negotiable. Any sensitive matters may be communicated to me through email or over the telephone. This is grasping at straws. Do you really think the average person has same latitude as Mike Pence….not to mention at the time ’Pence rule’ came out it was solely rhetoric, as the vice president would never be alone with any individual (other than personal) due to secret Service. Even before that as a US representative he would likely have at least an aid with him at all times.	/r/MensRights	30/05/26 11:47 AM
-17	My office door is open when I speak to a woman, and there is a third person present. This is not negotiable. Any sensitive matters may be communicated to me through email or over the telephone. This is a fantasy. I am prepared for the downvotes….but in any workplace that I have worked in this would be immediately deemed wasteful, unproductive, and potentially hostile and legally actionable. Can you imagine trying to explain missing a deadline because you refused to maintain productive professional conduct, because one wouldn’t be alone with a member of the opposite sex? That goes both ways.	/r/MensRights	30/05/26 11:17 AM
–	Chores are survival skills not gender roles I think teaching your children, both male and female to be self sufficient, a considerate member of the household, and to be a contributing member to that household is important. I think that is equally important socially and pragmatic. My three sons and daughter can do everything: cook, clean, do their own laundry, etc. They can also do routine car maintenance, put together furniture, do simply house repairs. And more importantly they understand how important it is to be fairly contributing mem…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 09:46 PM
11	"I'm not going to date anyone I'm not attracted to, even if I die alone" This is an outdated thought. Women these days are more and more embracing defining their own life. If love/the right man comes along, great; if not so be it. This is of course, "not all men" and we don’t hate men (as much as that rhetoric floats around), we are simply pragmatic about the number of worthy partners around. And usually the judgement is nothing to do with money, looks, or height. It all has to do with behavior. So again, if we get ‘lucky’, fantastic; why wouldn’t anyone want that….b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/26 12:13 AM
2	Never settle” has slowly morphed into “never compromise Just because you don’t see it, or can’t sustain does mean it doesn’t happen. That’s called projection.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 04:44 PM
3	Never settle” has slowly morphed into “never compromise I feel for you, I really do. Earnest question, what percentage of women out there dating do you perceive ’don’t have a bone to pick with men?’ As I mentioned I am the mom to 3 sons; 1 who is married and 2 who date, 1 of those has been seriously dating a girl for about 6 months and it is moving into more serious territory. I know my sons to be ’good men’….by my definition: truly believe woman are equals, are fully capable and willing to do household chores and carry their own mental load. On top …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 01:41 AM
2	Never settle” has slowly morphed into “never compromise Absolutely, SSRIs are a biological nightmare. Since one of the major side effects is destruction of microbiota, where a large percentage of neural modulators are created, including over 70% of one’s serotonin. And since one’s ability to synthesize those neural modulators is dependent on B vitamins, our governments misguided ‘fortified’ grains experiment has had disastrous unintended consequences. Correlation and causation is hard to quantify, especially when no one wants to study the effects, bu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 01:17 AM
2	Never settle” has slowly morphed into “never compromise Oh, and another thought: if woman will regret choosing to be alone down road, is really not part of the equation in their beliefs or behavior. Most truly believe they will not regret it; that belief drives their behavior. And like most self propagated beliefs, society(especially men) telling them they are wrong actually causes them to cling to their ideals more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 12:56 AM
2	Never settle” has slowly morphed into “never compromise That all sounds reasonable, but we just have different perspectives. I firmly believe most women will not be regretful, you think they will. Only time will tell. And the results aren’t set in stone either. The current attack on women’s autonomy may certainly play a part. Since you seem to be intelligent, I will bring up a subject most aren’t able to comprehend or want to see (willful ignorance)….our environment is causing gene expressions that are contributing to this growing lack of interest of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 12:43 AM
3	Never settle” has slowly morphed into “never compromise Sorry, but critical thinking would say that my large pool of data; as well as being a women…as well as occam’s razor would suggest my perspective is the more common one, and will continue to be more and more common, unless there is a large social shift. As I said, I can understand your personal disbelief, as well as men’s in general, but that’s pure projection. As far as missing out on a romantic connection, that’s shifting with the time. I know many of my peers in youth felt that way, but most …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/26 11:55 PM
5	Never settle” has slowly morphed into “never compromise This is where there is an odd projection of their own mindsets on to women. I have been married for 33 years, but my observations come from friends, family, co-workers/employees, business associates , and a women’s group I belong to. If I should ever get divorced or widowed, I would never remarry. My house would be empty when I wanted it to be and full of joy when I wanted it to be…..pretty much how it is now. I am fortunate to be a good cook, have a lovely backyard with a pool and pizza oven, a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/26 11:45 PM
5	Never settle” has slowly morphed into “never compromise Sure there are women who are too picky, but it’s a very small number. There are also a small number of bad faith women, but again from my perspective (including as a mom of three boys; one recently married and two dating age and their friends) that is a very low number. If some men are continually attracting those kind of women, then perhaps they should look at their own patterns of why they are attracting/ attracted to that type.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/26 11:39 PM
7	Never settle” has slowly morphed into “never compromise I am in a local women’s group where there are 2 events each week. We do crafts, try new restaurants, go to movies, plays, etc. There are also outdoor activities hiking, camping, the ubiquitous pickleball. There are also organized trips, everything from short trips to long trips and foreign travel. It’s a fairly large group of about 300 women, with an average attendance of about 75 per event, as people attend what interests them, is convenient for them. About 25% are married, the rest single. As …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/26 11:30 PM
5	Never settle” has slowly morphed into “never compromise 🤣😂 sorry, this is flat out delusional. Yes many woman are urging only choosing good men or being alone…but it’s not grifters or misandry. We, as a whole feel it’s better, to be alone than with wrong guy….and I say this as a women married for 33 years. The shift is easy to see.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/26 11:09 PM
5	Never settle” has slowly morphed into “never compromise Look into the new haystack dating, women are doing deep dives on what’s written on men’s profiles far more than their looks or claims about finances. This how women are selecting men, not some dreamed up list men use as a self protective mechanism…boo! hoo! Women don’t pick me because I am not tall enough, or make enough, or whatever their personal excuse is. Echoing what so many women have said here…and elsewhere….if love and the right man comes along great, if he doesn’t, we’ll have our nice, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/26 11:05 PM
5	Never settle” has slowly morphed into “never compromise For whom? As many woman have said over: Women are happy being single; young, old, it doesn’t really matter. If love comes along, great….if doesn’t, they are happily in control of their own lives….with clean homes, eating what they want, traveling when and where they want, have a supportive network of friends, on and on…all the while not putting up with (not all men) by a significant majority of men’s bad behavior. This is a relative new trend. But with the ability to have a well paying job, bank…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/26 10:47 PM
6	Pre-Nup vs "Stash money away" Stash money is going to be a very small amount of people and is rhetoric thrown out there a lot. Think about it logically, what percentage of people are living paycheck to paycheck, especially right now…their budgets simply are not going to allow either men or women to stash money away.	/r/MensRights	01/03/26 11:04 PM
0	Most women want Chad instead of good Guy? Nope. You failed to see my other responses to him. I explained my observations, with my own 3 sons. 1 who recently got married, 2 who are still single. I worked in a male dominated field, so have had a life time to observe men. And I think my perspective is nuanced and fairly fair. Was a bit flip, perhaps….but since I had try and explain it multiple times and he spouts off with a have a good life, it was relevant to remind him that his attitude, Is likely the issue. Sometimes, when someone willf…	/r/MensRights	27/02/26 07:48 PM
1	Most women want Chad instead of good Guy? No, not really….I engaged him in earnest, with thoughtful responses to his questions…. And then he kept making excuses and diving into rhetoric, that completely proved my initial post…Many of the people claiming to be ’good guys’ and blaming their situations on ‘Chad’s’, are not in fact good guys. He tried to write me and my deduction off with…have a good life, so I pointed out the basic facts. I do have a good life, that I built by being a decent human and raised four decent humans, including 3…	/r/MensRights	27/02/26 07:27 PM
0	Most women want Chad instead of good Guy? Nope, that’s a full hard stop no. Anyone, man or woman, that names their channel hoe math has underlying issues.	/r/MensRights	27/02/26 07:24 PM
1	Most women want Chad instead of good Guy? Because the name is hoe math….hoe is a derogatory, rhetoric slur. Truly if you think this is OK, you have found your problem. Thanks, I have a good life: married for 33 years, 4 great kids, retired early.….it’s you that asked the question and is struggling….but sure cling to…But I am a good guy. ETA: Aw, a downvote…did that comment hit a little too close to home. Poor ‘nice’ guy.	/r/MensRights	27/02/26 07:14 PM
2	Most women want Chad instead of good Guy? 🤣😂 what in the strawman projection is that? In my other response to you, I call out bad behavior, regardless of gender. As I mentioned, I have 3 sons (also have one daughter), I tend to look at people as humans, with good sides, bad sides, wonderfully intricate humans….gender doesn’t even come into play. If this had said gigilo math, I would have called it out, as well. ETA: Sure freedom of speech, but you are not free from the consequences of that speech…..and since you were talking about ‘good…	/r/MensRights	27/02/26 07:02 PM
2	Most women want Chad instead of good Guy? Shocking that women might shy away from men generalizing women as hoes! and following this kind of content! Just shocking!	/r/MensRights	27/02/26 06:51 PM
3	Most women want Chad instead of good Guy? What you are falling to understand is women’s standard, for most women, do not revolve around money or looks, they revolve around behavior. And women are done putting up with ’bad’ behavior. Sure many would rather have a partner, but they aren’t willing to put up with bad behavior to achieve that. More and more women would rather be alone than the wrong person. Men are trying increase their odds with more swipes, instead of focusing on the content of their character. Woman, by and large are unbo…	/r/MensRights	27/02/26 06:46 PM
2	Most women want Chad instead of good Guy? Well I have only been retired for 2 (almost 3 years), so the data from there is fairly new. But, obviously with my sons and their friends it’s current. The basic tenet holds out…the good people date and have relationships, the not so good one’s Not so much. And take the ‘good‘ in perspective. One son has a friend, Mitch, who I have known since he was in kindergarten. I love the ‘kid’, currently 29, but he is a douche when it comes to woman. Ironically, he probably qualifies as a chad. Fairly tal…	/r/MensRights	27/02/26 06:36 PM
2	Most women want Chad instead of good Guy? 😂🤣 I literally gave you my real world view. Yes the sample size is small, but the results remain consistent. I am retired now, but could add in that I managed a team of about 45 men and 15 women and my observations consistent over 7 years. The people that were kind, articulate, funny, etc…ie good people…were the ones obtaining dates or in relationships. The not so ‘nice’ ones struggled to get dates, relationships didn’t last, had narratives to support why other’s were the problem. This wasn’t ge…	/r/MensRights	27/02/26 06:15 PM
0	Most women want Chad instead of good Guy? This is such a false narrative. Women are literally run analysis on men’s words rather than their looks and claimed financial status. They are looking for and want good men, their definition of ‘good guys’ likely varies from yours. You can check out the Burned Haystack Method. Truly eye popping revelations and tracking of problematic men outed using logic and analysis. Women are tired of the perpetual, But I am a good guy falsehood and are approaching dating thoughtfully, with logic and support.…	/r/MensRights	27/02/26 05:48 PM
-3	My fiance called me unromantic for wanting a prenup - why is protecting myself controversial? You couldn’t be more wrong. First did I ever use the word sacrifice; that’s your projection. I simply stated a statistically proven fact: mother’s careers suffer when they take time off to give birth. As for being a SAHP, yes parent, that is a decision made between both parents, hopefully with a lot of thought. When my first two sons were born, there was no question, we both had to work and did so. By the time my third son was born, I was making enough and his company offered unpaid sabbaticals.…	/r/MensRights	19/02/26 08:57 PM
-9	My fiance called me unromantic for wanting a prenup - why is protecting myself controversial? Financial agreements, both pre and post nuptial deals with both pre-marriage/current assets and debts, but on going earnings, and future earnings. If OP wasn’t concerned about earning discrepancies why list them?	/r/MensRights	19/02/26 06:52 PM
-12	My fiance called me unromantic for wanting a prenup - why is protecting myself controversial? There are 2 sides to this and an equatable and fair way to enter a marriage and pragmatically plan if it should sadly fail. The honest truth is most prenups do not treat women fairly, which is why they are often voided. And also why there is such a visceral reason why woman balk and her family is upset. Some serious questions, that if haven’t been discussed and talked about is problematic. And if you haven’t thought fairly about these then you might think hard about why you haven’t. Are you goin…	/r/MensRights	19/02/26 06:29 PM
5	Dear women of the subreddit/female MRAs: based on your experiences of interacting with other women, how common is it for women to have compassion towards male suffering? I know this is going to be unpopular probably with both sides, but this has been my experience across multiple companies…and you did ask for our experiences. As an older women who has worked in male dominated spaces from a young age, but with some women, increasing through the years…women tend to be more empathetic to all suffering, and don’t really distinguish between men’s suffering/women’s suffering, but tend to take each situation and person individually. Men, by contrast, by and large are u…	/r/MensRights	15/01/26 01:49 AM
0	Stay at home parent Both my husband and I have been stay at home parents at different points. We both adamantly know that being a stay at home parent is far harder than any job either of us have ever had. That includes a high stress job I had where I worked 60-80 hours a week. He has some pretty labor intensive and hard jobs.	/r/MensRights	21/12/25 12:18 AM
4	In the 2024 Democratic Party Platform, the word Women appears 82 times, the word Men, 4 times. Why don't the Democrats pay more attention to male voters since they trail among them in the vote? Trump, in April '22, keynoted a Heritage dinner. “This is a great group & they’re going to lay the groundwork & detail plans for exactly what our movement will do ... when the American people give us a colossal mandate to save America." Video clip here.	/r/MensRights	04/09/24 09:40 PM
1	Annul my marriage HELP!! One would still need to prove fraud; as in never wanted children and lied about it. It’s hard to prove fraud vs change of heart. If the spouse testifies that they wanted children, but had since changed their mind….without proof to the contrary an annulment would be denied.	/r/Divorce_Men	02/09/24 04:15 PM
1	Annul my marriage HELP Although the rules vary slightly by state, they are substantially the same in that they require an element of ‘failure’ from the start…..as well as requiring residency in that state. Incest, mental capacity/ability to consent, or fraud are the basic requirements in all states. And yes, you would need co-operation from your spouse as you have to serve them and they have an opportunity to appear in court.	/r/MensRights	02/09/24 03:58 PM
3	What are your thoughts on the “mental load” debate? I am prepared to be downvoted to hell….but, in good faith I am going to answer this from my perspective (and my situation wasn’t/isn’t unique; I saw it my peers…both personal friends, and female work colleagues). Now granted I am older and I do think this has improved and I will say my adult sons are much better at this and I do think that is indicative of generational change. I think the focus and awareness of the mental load is important. This is not a victim mentality, as I fully acquiescence…	/r/MensRights	04/08/24 05:54 PM
3	What portion of men are actually loathsome slimy creepy scumbags in your experience? I just retired from retail management. Not only am I older, but overweight, I wear a wedding ring (am married) and I got ‘hit on‘ almost every day, sometimes in vulgar fashion. I think being older and in a more authoritative role, I shut them down pretty quickly and easily. For my younger female associates it was much worse. I got called over to help defuse situations at least 10 times a week, for customers. I had two promising associates quit because they couldn’t take it anymore. For employees…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/23 04:15 PM
5	Body preference, honesty and double standards I think people forget that tact and empathy go a long way. All the way around. I (56F) do not appreciate negative comments to my choices in appearance…so I take care to not make them to others, male or female. I do not like facial hair in men. Ever. It is completely subjective and I am not sure why. A few years ago my hubby of 30 years decided to grow a beard. Now, I have spoken in abstract about my dislike of facial hair for years, but either he didn’t pay attention or care about my preferences…	/r/MensRights	08/10/23 03:37 PM