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-8

This is what mensrights is about.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 01:14 AM
6

same deal with /r/whiterighrs?
/r/MensRights08/10/11 03:54 PM
-1

you mean until we remove a system by which women are infantalized by society and men are put in positions of parenting them? some sort of ... I can't think of a word, maybe the greeks had one.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 02:04 AM
1

What information do you get when you go to white right's?
/r/MensRights28/09/11 12:38 AM
-2

you are the most transphobic poster and you post in this forum!
/r/MensRights25/09/11 03:24 AM
2

He portrays the exact image about what this forum is about at least!
/r/MensRights24/09/11 07:54 PM
-2

I agree forum with a transphobic mod!
/r/MensRights21/09/11 01:38 AM
-3

The part that says "we are not against the concept of men's rights" or the part about ravioli
/r/MensRights20/09/11 08:24 PM
-9

link one thing that againstmensrights has ever posted against rights of men except the title bro.
/r/MensRights20/09/11 08:07 PM
5

Go ahead, because the flair plan is stupid and useless to the extreme.
/r/MensRights19/09/11 09:57 PM
12

I just unchecked the flair checkbox for this forum, your genius plan is crumbling around you!
/r/MensRights19/09/11 08:26 PM
-3

at what point was /r/mensrights having troubles of not being conservative enough?
/r/MensRights18/09/11 09:42 PM
-2

A society where women act like children and men act as their adults? I wonder if their is a greek word for this sort of society!?
/r/MensRights13/09/11 01:23 PM
9

So do you date feminists? or are you projecting your girlfriend's books on to feminists or what?
/r/MensRights11/09/11 11:51 PM
4

you are apparently buying and reading them as well as you know exactly what they are about and feature. Or maybe you just made that up in your head without any evidence?
/r/MensRights11/09/11 11:15 PM
-1

"The more you reject feminism, the more you realize women love being raped" got it!
/r/MensRights11/09/11 10:31 PM
-4

put this in the sidebar: http://www.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/comments/k6jkg/everything_i_know_about_feminism_i_learned_on/
/r/MensRights08/09/11 01:49 AM
-4

How much are whites oppressed?
/r/MensRights08/09/11 01:36 AM
-2

beep boop, mensrights getting close to the edge of saying whites are oppressed
/r/MensRights07/09/11 09:51 PM
-5

It's felt pretty good because your growth has primarily been towards insane extremism and conspiracy theory.
/r/MensRights07/09/11 09:40 PM
-9

So by your own math women are still paid ~3% less than men just for being women.
/r/MensRights07/09/11 09:26 PM
-2

It's awesome to use the language of "whore" when talking about feminists, it's really classy.
/r/MensRights05/09/11 02:51 PM
-2

Next complain there is too few male nurses and the men have to only take stinky doctor jobs.
/r/MensRights03/09/11 02:14 PM
25

That is how you get klingon birds of pray, not women you dumb dumb.
/r/seduction03/09/11 12:37 AM
-7

I am gonna admit even I can't tell if this is againstmensrights trolling, because I mean this seems like a real joke post but everyone is taking it serious I guess? Everyone gets that males aren't MISSING from educations, they are given the best jobs. looking up england to match this study 75% of principals are male, and in the us at least only 22% of superintendents are female and of "large" districts only 9% are!
/r/MensRights02/09/11 09:52 PM
-4

If you feel strongly that bad things are being posted in /r/mensrights feel free to join in in helping downvote and argue against them!
/r/MensRights02/09/11 07:20 PM
4

pregnancy is a thing women do to men to be mean, and children are not men's responsibility. duh.
/r/MensRights02/09/11 01:10 AM
2

which year are we remembering? specifically?
/r/MensRights01/09/11 11:04 PM
-18

She has custody 35% of the time and is asking for 3% of his income. OUTRAGE OUTRAGE! http://www.tmz.com/2011/08/30/jon-cryer-sarah-trigger-child-support-appeals-court-california-appeal-court-of-appeals-8000-per-month-son-two-and-a-half-men/#.Tl_86Vmy3fU
/r/MensRights01/09/11 09:48 PM
-2

violence metaphors
/r/MensRights01/09/11 09:10 PM
1

mangina a prominent mra figure
/r/MensRights01/09/11 12:16 AM
2

If only there was a word for that! if only there was a word for a society where women are treated as children and men required to parent them, maybe we could use the word for father, maybe the greek version to class it up?
/r/MensRights29/08/11 10:25 PM
-3

You owe it to yourself to look how similar your movements are. And the obvious overlap in philosophy behind both.
/r/MensRights29/08/11 02:31 AM
-2

Again, what is your theory on why your movement is strongly allied with white supremacy?
/r/MensRights29/08/11 02:19 AM
-3

yeah, you got it, your movements are really not so different.
/r/MensRights29/08/11 02:07 AM
-3

I didn't ask if you publicly support it, I asked why you think you get so many supporters from white power racists and why you think they link to your forum, if you think your movements don't share common aims.
/r/MensRights29/08/11 01:36 AM
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What is YOUR explanation for why the white power groups all link to your forums?
/r/MensRights29/08/11 01:25 AM
-4

sorry man, it's not just some random thing white supremacists are drawn to this forum and link to it, you guys are allies and always have been no matter how much you claim you don't "intend" that.
/r/MensRights29/08/11 01:14 AM
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And just like your strong alliance with white power movements it once again shows you are doing a really poor job of seeing how your intentions translate to the real world!
/r/MensRights28/08/11 04:03 PM
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It is however a movement founded on traditional gender roles.
/r/MensRights28/08/11 02:49 PM
0

he was literally a MRA~!
/r/MensRights27/08/11 03:26 AM
-5

origin of a MRA: a woman beat you up.
/r/MensRights27/08/11 02:39 AM
-8

It's funny because there is no LAW against dressing in a dress, and if mensrights is just going to get upset at social expectations a whole can of worms opens that mensrights probably doesn't want opened.
/r/MensRights26/08/11 02:34 AM
-37

men's rights: NO FUCK YOU MOM
/r/MensRights25/08/11 01:31 AM
-23

And of course NOW you guys are gonna be all down with affirmative action and against bootstrapping and personal responsibility for men.
/r/MensRights24/08/11 12:35 AM
3

A non-conviction does not mean a person is not guilty. It means a legal case against them could not produce a verdict and may or may not mean the crime actually occurred. Who could guess a millionaire could not get a guilty verdict against them?
/r/MensRights24/08/11 12:24 AM
3

this is darling.
/r/MensRights23/08/11 07:58 PM
2

alcohol makes it impossible for another person to KNOW if you are consenting, not impossible to consent, that is the tricky point MRAs have a hard time understanding.
/r/MensRights23/08/11 02:44 PM
-1

My favorite part of this is the hints that whites are oppressed like men. Finally someone daring to stand up for white males!
/r/MensRights23/08/11 11:16 AM
1

I'm not actually against men's issues, they are real issues, I am against real problems being co-opted by another unrelated movement as ammo.
/r/MensRights23/08/11 02:50 AM
-5

It's rad to see you guys defending neonazis instead of just sticking to 'we don't understand why neonazis are attracted to our movement!"
/r/MensRights22/08/11 02:57 AM
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There is a lot of overlap in the movements so it's to be expected.
/r/MensRights22/08/11 01:33 AM
0

Not much, scifi technobabble for a silly purpose.
/r/MensRights22/08/11 12:38 AM
5

I say this as a non-troll, this is a good idea for a thread.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 11:58 PM
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It really is legitimately great though that /r/mensrights is just openly posting "women's place is ironing" and rape jokes now. It really does make it easy for people to see the ideals behind this place.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 10:19 PM
-9

is your sense of humor really "women, irons, it's a joke!"? Like that isn't even a clever joke.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 10:09 PM
-8

/r/mensrights: having sex with 14 year olds, a man's right.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 01:52 PM
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So like, if it's hot out, their choices are "burka" or "be treated like they are showing off their sexuality"
/r/MensRights21/08/11 01:07 PM
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Everywhere? men don't even need to wear shirts if they don't want.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 12:57 PM
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Mensrights: always standing up for the pedophile.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 12:46 PM
-10

The double standard is that men are able to walk around wearing few cloths and no one takes that as license to treat them as sexual objects that owe them a show. Note that you aren't being stopped from looking and your objection is that you wish to control their thoughts about you looking. That they need to submit more perfectly to you looking at their bodies instead of just physically letting you.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 12:24 PM
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You know how /r/mensrights crys and crys there is posters trying to teach men about rape? Because men already know EVERYTHING about rape. How come every thread about rape has a billion men asking questions about what is or isn't rape?
/r/MensRights21/08/11 03:47 AM
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I like it how when men are over represented in something it's a sign of the natural order of things but when it's women it's a sign of outside forces. Why should we give men affirmative action to go to college?
/r/MensRights20/08/11 09:33 PM
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I love the twist logic you guys use to both show that it's a biotruth that women are dumber than men or that there is less smart women than smart men but that colleges apparently are filling up with women to the point of bursting now that is socially allowed.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 08:58 PM
0

It's cool that when threatened r/mensrights just jumps to outright misogyny instead of the very slightly veiled kind they normally use.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 04:45 PM
2

Oh yes, calling me a woman, truly the worst insult! And as a fat I have no value! (since the value of a woman is her looks)
/r/MensRights20/08/11 04:20 PM
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This is one of those posts where mensrights isn't just against feminism the organization but actually wants women's place to go back to traditional roles.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 04:03 PM
1

/r/mensrights comes out strongly against the rights of lesbian mothers but does not apply the same to male parents.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 03:01 PM
1

Before anyone writes compare your opinion to what your opinion was on this: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/ilatb/lesbian_mother_to_remove_father_from_childs_birth/
/r/MensRights20/08/11 02:02 PM
0

I have never understood why mras are so against saying men are a powerful group but are okay if you add that it's white rich men.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 01:03 AM
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For instance, in Saudi Arabia, men have all sorts of legal rights, while women have the right to reach adulthood while still having their genitals left intact. are you really this dumb? are you really this uninformed about the world outside your own walls?
/r/MensRights19/08/11 10:45 PM
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Yes, the same social forces existed then: Paternalistic treatment of women.
/r/MensRights19/08/11 09:13 PM
0

I am enamored at the number of times in this thread the concept of patriarchal society has been reinvented by a MRA then rejected because that word makes them SUPER ANGRY.
/r/MensRights19/08/11 09:08 PM
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Give it to me, give me all your flairs.
/r/MensRights19/08/11 08:27 PM
5

I mean are you being serious? You literally deny any culture on the planet earth has women as second class citizens? Not just in the west but just... period? Like there is simply no culture on the current planet earth women have less rights than men? Not africa? not anywhere in the middle east? Not this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia
/r/MensRights19/08/11 08:05 PM
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Take your pick, even if you don't see it as having ever happened in the west there have been and are currently cultures where women have no legal standing, can not own property, are sold as property and face infibulation with excision at puberty. So I don't know? Pick one at random? Sudan in 1930.
/r/MensRights19/08/11 07:49 PM
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And what is the origin of that? It certainly predates feminism by hundreds of years. There are times and places women have had very few rights but those are not cultures they get drafted or work in coal mines. Correct? In that case it can't possibly be women who have created the expectation, correct? How could women write the laws in historical cultures that don't allow women to even write? Are you not again pointing towards a pervasive system where women are infantalized and men are treated as …
/r/MensRights19/08/11 07:24 PM
2

So again, you feel women are treated unequally but your opinion is simply that it is a deserved position that is of their own doing?
/r/MensRights19/08/11 07:02 PM
-14

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labiaplasty
/r/MensRights19/08/11 06:47 PM
1

But how? If that was the case why did the laws generally exist in the past? or in other cultures women ARE overtly second class citizens. Alimony was in the code of Code of Hammurabi 4000 years ago, it can't possibly be feminists that snuck that in.
/r/MensRights19/08/11 06:19 PM
6

Wait, so women are not currently seen as equal? So women's goal needs to be to work to be seen as equals?
/r/MensRights19/08/11 06:09 PM
4

So women should have the goal of destroying patriarchy?
/r/MensRights19/08/11 06:03 PM
-1

I have a bunch of accounts where I post agreeable stuff so I have positive history and a good reputation, do you want me to post stuff under those accounts for you?
/r/MensRights19/08/11 05:49 PM
1

Definitely, if you zapped to the 1800s or to Afghanistan or other times and places devoid of strong feminism you may see similar patterns of law and tradition.
/r/MensRights19/08/11 05:46 PM
1

So again, the issue is a patriarchal society? One that treats men as adults and women as the children in their care?
/r/MensRights19/08/11 05:42 PM
-1

How can you claim that though? The public idea of the claim that women are oppressed is a modern western phenomenon. The institutions and laws that 'favor' women pre-date feminism by a hundred years or more, and exist (more strongly!) in cultures that it would be impossible to claim feminism wields any power.
/r/MensRights19/08/11 05:35 PM
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I could easily have posted this under a throw away account.
/r/MensRights19/08/11 05:30 PM
1

So you are saying that women are infantalized?
/r/MensRights19/08/11 05:00 PM
1

I would say maybe circumcision doesn't, but other than that doesn't basically every issue boil down to men being forced into a role of needing to baby and take care of a woman? Because of historical and legal pressure to that being a man's place (and a woman's place)? A patriarchal role?
/r/MensRights19/08/11 03:30 PM
-8

Very few men's rights issues are recent in nature, of course they are related to the past. It seems extremely clear that nearly all men's rights issues are expectation that a man take a parental role to a woman. To support or defend her. That all gender imbalance stems from forcing men to take a parental role towards women. Why not, except anger towards feminists not to admit patriarchy is what has hurt men so badly? Why not admit that the goal of both men and women should be to end patriarchal …
/r/MensRights19/08/11 02:59 PM
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Would anyone be willing to start a thread about this topic? I'm troll as hell, but I'd really be legitimately non-trollingly interested in seeing a discussion on this from the other perspective. That the ultimate cause of men's rights issues almost always boils down to the expectation of men being placed in a paternal (paternal) role over women. It's really interesting to see that MRA do ultimately agree patriarchy is the source of the issues and I'd love to see a genuine conversation about that…
/r/MensRights19/08/11 02:43 PM
-5

But you do agree that patriarchy is the original source of men's right's issues? If only the uneven death of it? I feel like this is a big step for this forum. Being able to admit that.
/r/MensRights19/08/11 02:13 PM
-8

It's almost as if all men's rights problems stem from some sort of system where men are forced to take a constant parental role over women. If only there was a word for such a thing! Whats another word for father we could use? Maybe something greek?
/r/MensRights19/08/11 01:42 PM
-1

I don't understand why you can look at that situation, see a double standard and then conclude you should get to be able to rape the worman, instead of something like wishing you had equal protection against rape or something.
/r/MensRights19/08/11 11:07 AM
-5

Yeah the poor dudes imprisoned for actual rapes they committed, what a travesty!
/r/MensRights19/08/11 03:33 AM
-11

You seem pretty chill with the idea you might rape a girl because it's slightly inconvenient for you to not rape them.
/r/MensRights19/08/11 03:13 AM
-15

The only hoop you have to jump through is not jumping your penis into a woman's hoop unless she wants it there. It's not rocket surgery.
/r/MensRights19/08/11 01:34 AM
-17

Haha, does this dude have autism? Some women were being really nice to him and totally joking around with him as a total stranger and he freaks the fuck out.
/r/MensRights18/08/11 11:54 AM
-4

It seems your definition of fair is "man picks" and your definition of unfair is "woman picks".
/r/MensRights18/08/11 02:25 AM
1

So should men pay child support for donor babies or not? is your answer just "if they want to?"
/r/MensRights18/08/11 01:59 AM
8

breaking news: hitting a child is violence! how weird a decision THAT is!
/r/MensRights18/08/11 01:34 AM
0

Oh no, not a LESBIAN! (as a mensrights poster we hate lesbians, right?)
/r/MensRights17/08/11 11:41 PM
-2

It's great, every case it harms the male r/mensrights is dead set that donors aren't fathers, if it benefits the man suddenly oh, why of course they are the father. It's almost as if there is no underlying philosophy except "everything should benefit men always and doing otherwise is oppression"!
/r/MensRights17/08/11 11:24 PM
-17

Mensrights: basically just the ideology of family guy and south park.
/r/MensRights17/08/11 08:23 PM
2

Oh boy, you sure showed them!
/r/MensRights17/08/11 08:12 PM
0

r/mensrights is very frequently a pro-rape forum!
/r/MensRights15/08/11 10:48 PM
-15

men's rights is a concept seporate from /r/mensrights /r/mensrights is a weird ass anti-feminism conspiracy theory forum that happens to have picked the name of a noble movement.
/r/MensRights15/08/11 09:16 PM
0

Wait so you think it's okay to get people drunk and take their chocolate? That doesn't even sound good even if you are ignoring you are talking about your desire to rape ladies.
/r/MensRights15/08/11 07:20 PM
8

What exactly is your theory on how women are exerting this power to suppress it?
/r/MensRights15/08/11 07:00 PM
0

It's cool mensrights is posting a link that women officers are assaulted more than male officers. Thank you for a good link with an important message.
/r/MensRights15/08/11 11:36 AM
-25

Oh man it's almost as if there wasn't a rule only one group could ever have any sort of privilege!
/r/MensRights14/08/11 11:14 PM
5

It's cool that you are following the long proud tradition of having no frigging idea what privilege means and making up a definition in your own head that you really hate.
/r/MensRights14/08/11 08:43 PM
-1

You don't "trust LGBT"? What the hell does that mean?
/r/MensRights14/08/11 04:37 PM
0

It actually isn't strange at all! It's only in the imagination of MRA that feminism is some sort of devil organization trying to oppress men.
/r/MensRights14/08/11 04:24 PM
-9

Thanks for the update, would you like to say anything about the post as well?
/r/MensRights14/08/11 03:55 PM
-5

Mens rights is a valid and noble topic, anti-feminism is a dumb topic that has infested and drowned out any discussion about men and rights.
/r/MensRights14/08/11 03:45 PM
-25

It's gonna rule when someone rich rapes a lady then has a good enough lawyer to have her sent to jail for it. That's what I call justice!
/r/MensRights14/08/11 02:28 PM
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It's awesome to see r/mensrights fall apart, I promise in a week this forum will not have a single post about mensrights and only about temper tantrums at feminists. It was never a forum to talk about mensrights anyway.
/r/MensRights14/08/11 02:17 PM
3

once again mensrights gets to the edge of saying the thing they always want to say: "whites are oppressed".
/r/MensRights13/08/11 02:50 PM
-7

Check out that ruling class and get back to me with a report on how many are women (or non-whites). You may be shocked!
/r/MensRights13/08/11 12:33 PM
-4

This is a mensrights issue because this is literally what mensrights is about, it has exactly nothing to do with men and rights and everything to do with this crap.
/r/MensRights13/08/11 01:56 AM
7

The article posted is an article arguing against that dumb conclusion and it's mr taking it as supporting it because reading links is hard.
/r/MensRights12/08/11 07:10 PM
-5

Oh this is one of those fake articles the feminists post to discredit mensrights, right? Not a thing mensrights is actually dumb enough to think, is that correct?
/r/MensRights12/08/11 06:09 PM
-3

If no one makes any bad posts againstmensrights doesn't have any argument! I don't think anyone will mind if you go on a crazy person witch hunt but actually manage to kick out all the bad posters while looking for secret spys.
/r/MensRights12/08/11 04:57 PM
-13

Solution: be vigilant at downvoting bad posts in r/mensrights. Problem solved!
/r/MensRights12/08/11 04:47 PM
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Againstmensrights only links awful posts, you would do better downvoting awful posts in this forum, then there would be nothing for them to link
/r/MensRights12/08/11 04:37 PM
7

I hope the pedophile doesn't have sex with me if I am too childish!
/r/MensRights12/08/11 12:36 AM
5

thats a lot of big words for a pedophile!
/r/MensRights11/08/11 11:05 PM
15

The proper term is pedophile, you are a pedophile.
/r/MensRights11/08/11 10:43 PM
1

It's awesome you couldn't find any actual feminist to say that so you had to type into a website to make a robot say it!
/r/MensRights11/08/11 09:11 PM
38

Yeah you pedophiles are totally an oppressed people.
/r/MensRights11/08/11 07:46 PM
2

twilight zone ending: It is you who is misinterpreting the very clear text saying that you may experience non-concentual contact that could give you clamidia!
/r/MensRights11/08/11 01:46 AM
0

I mean you see the exact same pattern with blacks and all other groups that had historical discrimination.
/r/MensRights11/08/11 01:19 AM
1

I'm sorry you have so many words in your mouth but the real twist ending is that it was you who put them there.
/r/MensRights10/08/11 10:20 PM
-1

Why do you think it's a choice? It seems super weird that every group that was in the past legally disallowed from certain jobs, now still are underrepresented in those jobs. IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE FORCES THAT CHOSE TO MAKE THE LAWS IN THE FIRST PLACE DIDN'T MAGICALLY DISAPPEAR THE SECOND THEY WERE REPEALED!
/r/MensRights10/08/11 10:10 PM
-2

So you are saying it's not sexism that makes women get less pay, it's having worse jobs and educations and prospects? I see!
/r/MensRights10/08/11 07:21 PM
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I find it so hilarious that some of these “men’s rights activists” are whining over a handful of women who deviate from the norm. Keep in mind that these are the same men who seek to abolish the statutory rape laws, and many other laws that are designed to protect female rape victims (because, let’s face it, most rape victims are women). And these are also the same men who accuse women of lying about being raped and almost always engage in victim blaming tactics like “If she was dressed like a s…
/r/MensRights10/08/11 11:21 AM
-4

Psychosis is a mental illness, is that what you mean /r/mensrights? Or is the idea all women are crazy people as compared to men?
/r/MensRights10/08/11 01:45 AM
2

mensrights everybody!
/r/MensRights10/08/11 01:25 AM
5

Is there a particular reason you feel transphobia should NOT be downvoted?
/r/MensRights09/08/11 02:27 PM
7

thanks for the update on stupid things from your imagination!
/r/MensRights09/08/11 01:09 AM
-5

"Well, yes. That is what has been expected of women throughout history, that they keep their legs together when the results of not doing so would be bad. And this is precisely what was expected of George Sodini, and of men whose dates get undressed and rub their dicks and then say no at the last minute. Why is this considered such an unreasonable demand?" This is why everyone thinks you are rapists r/mensrights
/r/MensRights08/08/11 11:41 PM
1

I JUST WANT TO BE BEATIFUL. COZ
/r/MensRights08/08/11 11:26 AM
-5

The guy should also be aware that a bear might break into his house and eat him because that has happened way more times than the ridiculous paranoid fantasies you guys have of women lurking everywhere you steal your vast riches.
/r/MensRights08/08/11 12:33 AM
-12

You literally do not want a couple to have a family because you have become consumed with fear of women. Fear of an event that has happened an infinitesimally small amount of times.
/r/MensRights07/08/11 07:52 PM
-6

No it's not prudent to live your life all around trying to avoid vanishingly small possibilities of certain events happening.
/r/MensRights07/08/11 06:29 PM
-7

Do you really fear women so much? A woman could come cut your face with a box cutter any minute right now, do you live deep underground in a locked room for fear of that?
/r/MensRights07/08/11 06:14 PM
-6

Altruism towards an infertile couple?
/r/MensRights07/08/11 06:03 PM
-4

Everything has risks, but something needs to present a statistical risk to be worth thinking about. I mean you are using a computer, but some percentage of computers have started fires that killed their owner, but you as a sane person realize that that is a vanishingly small risk and not something to account for when wondering if you should have a computer.
/r/MensRights07/08/11 04:42 PM
-9

What percent of men has that happened to?
/r/MensRights07/08/11 04:13 PM
0

I'm sure that's it dude, I'm sure you totally called it.
/r/MensRights07/08/11 03:43 PM
-6

and you losers whine about /r/anarchy mods, I get banned from reddit's I never have even heard of before!
/r/MensRights07/08/11 03:33 PM
0

How come the ones that think the one thing never show up to argue with the people that think the other one? It's only ever the people that have the most convenient opinion that ever post. Women are totally different in every way if that's worse, and exactly the same in every way if that's worse.
/r/MensRights07/08/11 03:20 PM
-19

/r/mensrights sure does hate those tricky lesbians! Always having babies to scam you!
/r/MensRights07/08/11 02:56 PM
0

I love that when it's any other topic r/mensrights is all evopsych bullshit that men and women are totally different mentally and that's just biotruth but if the idea is to give women any political power it wouldn't change anything because women are just the same as men. IT'S ALMOST LIKE R/MENSRIGHTS DOESN'T HAVE A CONSISTENT PHILOSOPHY AND JUST THINKS WHATEVER IS MOST CONVENIENT AT THE TIME!!!
/r/MensRights07/08/11 02:32 PM
4

Check out which bros set the place up, you'll notice a few groups and interests represented a lot more than others.
/r/MensRights07/08/11 05:02 AM
1

Yeah, ladies gotta shut their yaps about being denied any say in the founding of this country and it's basic attributes, constitution and laws. When will they get over the fact their rights are things that had to be voted on while men's rights were just divinely ordained, we voted for them already sheesh!
/r/MensRights07/08/11 04:07 AM
-3

Make a subreddit about how feminism killed your dad if you want, this one is for talking about men's rights
/r/MensRights06/08/11 03:46 AM
-1

Do you think I am like the boss of all trolls or something? Do you think I am ordering around every single troll in here? More than one person has come to the conclusion this is a bad forum!
/r/MensRights06/08/11 01:56 AM
0

but but but banning is censorship, remember when mensrights got banned from anarchy and had a huge hissy fit?
/r/MensRights06/08/11 01:16 AM
-1

I say it every time: AMR only links to quotes MR actually makes, stop saying stupid crap and you guys won't have to worry about people linking to it.
/r/MensRights06/08/11 12:37 AM
-14

You don't need to, you invaded the conversation of mensrights to help drown out the talk of mens rights and instead make it a movement to topple an imaginary feminist empire.
/r/MensRights05/08/11 05:24 PM
-19

clearly I am! And since you guys made such a stink that you guys got banned when you were the ones invading other forums I probably will be for a long time!
/r/MensRights05/08/11 05:10 PM
0

Yeah bro a great way to start an article addressing feminism is totally a picture of fists with the word's "beat down" on them.
/r/MensRights05/08/11 05:07 PM
-5

Is /r/mensrights against this for some reason?
/r/MensRights05/08/11 04:59 PM
-6

Only men are citizens of this country so I can't see how...
/r/MensRights05/08/11 04:59 PM
-28

Is r/mensrights still doing that thing where a rape case not going to trial or not being prosecutable is counted as a false rape because man you guys are really dumb about that.
/r/MensRights05/08/11 04:52 PM
-2

"These are movies made by mainstream modern directors that Joseph Goebbels would not change a frame of. "
/r/MensRights05/08/11 11:50 AM
1

bleep bloop kloo2yoo once again suggesting violence against women detected.
/r/MensRights05/08/11 11:15 AM
21

r/Mensrights is a MASTER at using misogyny to shout down the opposition.
/r/MensRights05/08/11 11:09 AM
11

he literally grabs her butt and tells her he wants to get hard.
/r/MensRights05/08/11 01:09 AM
9

Yes, imagine Regis flirting with a girl on tv! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw3sGowUIXA&feature=player_detailpage
/r/MensRights05/08/11 12:37 AM
-1

I see what it is now, awesome.
/r/MensRights05/08/11 12:16 AM
-4

What is this /r/mensrights? What is this? Downvoted!
/r/MensRights04/08/11 11:56 PM
8

Thanks for clearing that up!
/r/MensRights04/08/11 09:41 PM
40

I have a genius solution: stop saying idiotic shit and shit reddit says will be powerless to quote you guys! Really I would think actual men's rights supporters would be the people most focused on expelling the misogyny, ignorance and hate out of the movement. And would be the FIRST people that want to laugh at the idiotic stuff this forum so constantly feels the need to vomit forth onto threads that should be talking about the actual problems men do actually face in this world.
/r/MensRights04/08/11 09:25 PM
-8

Can you guys give me a reminder what percent of rape accusations r/mensrights think is false again? like... 90% wasn't it?
/r/MensRights04/08/11 08:50 PM
1

Everything you wrote in this is unironically 100% correct.
/r/MensRights04/08/11 06:13 PM
-5

Take them on what? Almost all they do is just link posts you guys make, you could shut them down in thirty seconds if you stopped saying/up voting idiotic shit. There is no one in AMR that are against mens rights, so start talking about mens rights and stop being weirdos that call women cunts and men manginas and live under weird conspiracy theories and they'd run out of crappy posts to link and go away on their own.
/r/MensRights04/08/11 05:37 PM
0

BUT HOW DO WE KNOW HE ISN'T FAKING THE ACCUSATION BECAUSE SHE WOULDN'T LET HIM HAVE ICE CREAM!?
/r/MensRights04/08/11 05:26 PM
-5

You get that this article doesn't debunk the wage gap, it explains it. It doesn't say that women REALLY make what men make, it explains that women are often stuck in worse jobs working less hours. The men still are getting more money, it is saying why, not that it doesn't happen. If you have to control for education to make two groups equal all you have done is shown one group is undereducated compared to the other, if one group gets less because they do different jobs all you have proven is the…
/r/MensRights04/08/11 05:15 PM
2

it's this, this is what gets upvotes in mensrights, fetishizing rapists/determining rape tragedy by rapist hotness.
/r/MensRights04/08/11 05:04 PM
0

link me up to you attacking one.
/r/MensRights04/08/11 11:21 AM
-12

oh you woman I divorced! I hate you! therefor somehow I will take this out on my children by depriving them of money from their father!
/r/MensRights04/08/11 01:59 AM
1

I am glad to help you resolve your community, if you resolve to go the way of being a good community fighting for mens rights and expelling the nonsense anti-woman/woman conspiracy members that is awesome, if you cement your community to being a bunch of bat shit insane idiots that no sane person will ever think is actually about mens rights that is cool too. either way is really fine to me.
/r/MensRights04/08/11 01:39 AM
2

On the flip side is the disease androgen insensitivity, they are XY males with normal female anatomy, mostly normal vaginas and breasts, and are well known for it being a "super model" disease that creates tall hairless women, almost all of them live their entire life not even realizing they are not 'real' women and that their ovaries are nonfuctional testicles and a huge number only find out due to being infertile.
/r/MensRights04/08/11 01:20 AM
1

He was raised a girl by some of his family and not from others, he was also given very poor gender reassignment surgery because of the damage and was constantly reminded he wasn't a real girl and was also molested repeatedly. He was not exactly some ideal test of gender theory. It was a kid who had was tortured his whole life then killed himself.
/r/MensRights04/08/11 01:18 AM
-3

So does that apply to men or just women? Mensrights complains about things being in equal for men but should it not? If there is no law specifically causing them?
/r/MensRights04/08/11 01:13 AM
0

blacks got rights through demonstrations, and I know you'll hate this but so did women. In the opposite direction and in more recent times gay's got rights and then lost them because of popular movements of terrible people and ballot initiatives in several states.
/r/MensRights04/08/11 01:11 AM
8

Racial bigotry: a solved issue.
/r/MensRights04/08/11 12:57 AM
2

No I see a mensrights advocate who once again uses rape analogies for some minor point they are making.
/r/MensRights04/08/11 12:52 AM
-18

doesn't have to pay for the children he had, have a party WOO!!!
/r/MensRights03/08/11 10:08 PM
0

Oh hey mensrights is being transphobic again!
/r/MensRights03/08/11 08:33 PM
2

Why are you sure that the movement you are in is the one that is the one that escaped the matrix and sees through real lies with real eyes?
/r/MensRights03/08/11 08:22 PM
-1

Mensrights: mostly we just don't want to take care of our own children.
/r/MensRights03/08/11 03:26 PM
-3

Is that what mensrights is? wishing to not have to pay for your own children? Like I vaguely get being upset about the rare case of having to support non-biological children, but being upset you have to pay for your own children? Is that really a goal of this mensrights group? Because what a terrible group!
/r/MensRights03/08/11 03:18 PM
2

What would a male dominated society would even look like? what a wild dream that would be, having men running all major institutions, controlling the majority of the money, I wonder how things would be different?
/r/MensRights03/08/11 02:36 PM
1

If there was no capitalism there would be no money problems! (and now you point out why that claim is dumb but lack the ability to see the same in identical attacks on feminism)
/r/MensRights03/08/11 02:30 PM
-2

I am for national socialism, doesn't mean I am a national socialist, mensrights is a good cause, /r/mensrights is a bad forum.
/r/MensRights03/08/11 02:04 PM
0

(THAT FORUM IS /R/AGAINSTMENSRIGHTS)
/r/MensRights03/08/11 01:24 PM
0

maybe someone could make a whole forum linking them....
/r/MensRights03/08/11 12:45 PM
1

But it's clearly just spite, capitalism leads to the money problems that effect men but this isn't an anti-capitalism forum, it over focuses on feminism out of misplaced anger and just ends up consuming the ability of mensrights to be approached by anyone but extremists, which is deeply unfortunate.
/r/MensRights03/08/11 12:01 PM
-6

It's good mensrights is starting to admit they hate women. even if they are saying "it's because those awful women made me hate them"
/r/MensRights03/08/11 11:51 AM
1

condoms are free already at pretty much any sort off office that has anything even remotely related to sex. Go to an HIV testing clinic or planned parenting or anything like that and they will have just jars of condoms you can grab and will give you more organized packages of them if you talk to them and ask.
/r/MensRights03/08/11 11:48 AM
-11

You know what would totally mess with /r/againstmensrights real good? If r/mensrights stopped posting hilariously ignorant and hateful stuff so they ran out of hilarious links to post to comments from this forum!
/r/MensRights03/08/11 11:42 AM
1

It is the people who take mensrights away from the topic of mensrights that are the people who are trolling the movement!
/r/MensRights03/08/11 11:40 AM
1

Cool, you see structural flaws in (some formulations) feminism, there isn't anything wrong with that. That is a thing that can be talked about or discussed, mensrights absorption in to just being anti-feminism does nothing but make it look bad. Take this example: Are there mens rights issues that have to do with money? Yeah, there are, but if the whole forum is not soaked in anti-capitalist rhetoric, there is no "so you are a capitalist" on the sidebar and "heh, capitalists" on the title, nor sh…
/r/MensRights03/08/11 11:36 AM
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this is a fictional tv show sorry you get your information about feminism from 80s sitcoms but it explains a lot!
/r/MensRights03/08/11 03:33 AM
1

bro I think you missed and posted a thread about women's rights in a mensrights forum, easy mistake. Oh, I get it you are complaining about women having rights, I see.
/r/MensRights03/08/11 03:31 AM
0

I don't understand why you are saying feminism only promotes females so it should be called egalitarianism to show it's promoting both but then have a group called "mens rights"?
/r/MensRights03/08/11 03:28 AM
-1

No, don't explain how you know feminism is evil because some random whatever, that is great, have your opinion, but why weaken mensrights by tieing a separate issue to it? There are real issues and all you do is hurt the movement by tieing some rage against feminism subtopic into it. It's awesome if you think feminism is the problem, but make a forum for that, make this a forum for discussing mensrights and if feminism comes up discuss that, but why have the title and sidebar be so soaked in one…
/r/MensRights03/08/11 03:24 AM
0

Why does the mensrights forum need to be anti-feminist at all? Like sure I get some people think that is a problem or whatever, but why bind two topics so people who are pro-mensrights can discuss mensrights issues without needing to take the additional mantle of fighting feminism? Why not a forum for people that want mensrights?
/r/MensRights03/08/11 03:21 AM
-1

Sorry the government makes you pay money for the children you have bro, it must be super rough!
/r/MensRights03/08/11 01:16 AM
-6

So if the parents are married why is the kid worth more than other kids but if they are divorced the kid isn't?
/r/MensRights02/08/11 09:22 PM
-5

So are you communist in all respects or just when it comes to paying for your own children?
/r/MensRights02/08/11 09:01 PM
-9

This is why it's "mensrights" and not "boysrights" because sure does hate having to pay any money to raise children they have; boys or otherwise!
/r/MensRights02/08/11 08:56 PM
-2

so basically no, you have not actually read even one book about feminism and literally do not know what you are talking about.
/r/MensRights02/08/11 01:26 AM
1

Yeah, they were probably drinking too much had sex with a man, regretted it and then called it rape so their friends wouldn't think they were fffffffffff
/r/MensRights02/08/11 12:35 AM
1

awesome, it's great you believe whatever it is that you believe but by binding that into mensrights you are only harming progress of mensrights by excluding people. There is no reason mensrights should be the anti-feminism forum. I am sure you should have the right to have an anti-feminism forum but there is no reason you should use men's right and hijack the cause to serve that and damage it in the process by making it exclusionary.
/r/MensRights02/08/11 12:29 AM
5

SOMEONE HELP ME! A BINGO IS OPPRESSING ME!!! A BINGO!!!!!
/r/MensRights02/08/11 12:05 AM
7

mother in laws are feeemale you doofus
/r/MensRights01/08/11 11:43 PM
1

Okay, all my questions are answered!
/r/MensRights01/08/11 09:40 PM
3

Why do their averages differ? How do they differ?
/r/MensRights01/08/11 09:31 PM
6

What does biology say about whites, blacks and asians?
/r/MensRights01/08/11 09:19 PM
9

How many of those men were making false accusations though?
/r/MensRights01/08/11 08:20 PM
2

I am going to admit it's rare, normally these biotruth threads go to the idea men and women are different and have different strengths and weakness and then see claims that they mysteriously line up exactly with white western modern American gender roles. It feels rare to see this, outright claim of across the board male superiority.
/r/MensRights01/08/11 07:19 PM
3

Are not traditional gender roles the cause of mens damaged rights? Is it not an equally strong argument against mensrights advocacy?
/r/MensRights01/08/11 07:04 PM
-1

How can you be sure then that men deserve equal rights to women? Do you mean men should get quotas for things they are biologically worse than than women? or is your claim men are better than women in all possible areas so that could never happen?
/r/MensRights01/08/11 06:21 PM
2

Then why is this posted in mensrights? Why is this stuff CONSTANTLY posted in r/mensrights? What is the goal of it?
/r/MensRights01/08/11 06:13 PM
2

Is there any 'men's right" that you would drop if it turned out it was biologically counterindicated? Or is it just women's rights biology can show shouldn't exist?
/r/MensRights01/08/11 05:45 PM
4

Why is mensrights always trying to prove gender roles? Doesn't it just reinforce that all the idea that men should stay in their masculine place and not get the rights they are fighting for? That if it's a biotruth women's place is raising children that women SHOULD get custody and that if it's a biotruth men are manly and tough that men should work in coal mines and so forth? What is the exact fascination with proving gender roles in /r/mensrights, it totally undermines any of your claims by ma…
/r/MensRights01/08/11 05:05 PM
3

No one is misconstruing you to say that you are using this forum as a platform to attack feminism at the expense of talking about mensrights. You have issues with hotpockets? and you want to talk about hot pockets? great, start a hotpocket subreddit, don't shit up a forum with an important topic with your pet project.
/r/MensRights01/08/11 04:57 PM
2

Hey kloo, aren't you the mod? it's in your power to remove the "this is antifeminism" and just have a forum about mens rights, then you could make a new forum for your cause that doesn't have to fuck up a real cause with an imagined one.
/r/MensRights01/08/11 04:48 PM
-1

Can you name some feminist literature you are referring to? Can you even name a feminist from the last 20 years? You are saying a lot about 'feminism' but what are you drawing from as sources? Which feminists do you disagree with?
/r/MensRights01/08/11 04:45 PM
1

They are literally completely unrelated, it is literally a parasite on the movement that has nothing to do with the primary goals and does nothing but to push it into an extremist territory. All it does is require the acceptance of an extremist philosophy to talk about a reasonable set of goals. It does nothing but hurt the movement to tie the issues into a totally separate issue. Maybe you hate feminism or don't understand it, or whatever, talking about rights for men should not require anyone …
/r/MensRights01/08/11 03:49 PM
1

It'd be real cool if there was a forum for mens rights and then a totally separate forum for fighting feminism because mensrights is an important issue that maybe shouldn't get drug down by some totally unrelated topic. There is no mensrights and also hotpockets forum, there is no reason to damage the mensrights movement by sticking a bunch of gender war crap in. It's great if you hate feminism or love hotpockets, but can't there be a forum for that topic instead of taking over a topic everyone …
/r/MensRights01/08/11 03:28 PM
3

Pretty much no hint of the subject being mensrights is left, everything from the sidebar to the posts to the forum caption is more and more exclusively "we hate feminism" or "women are bad" and very little about anything to do with mensrights.
/r/MensRights01/08/11 03:05 PM
-1

This has not been a mensrights forum for a long time, the focus of the forum has been anti-feminism for a long time, mentioning mensrights is secondary, there is no mens rights forum on reddit.
/r/MensRights01/08/11 10:46 AM
2

list of fields in lowest to highest pay order
/r/MensRights01/08/11 01:25 AM
2

okay, so what equality should men get and what should women get?
/r/MensRights01/08/11 01:22 AM
2

that definition has been around for a year, this one is something this guy just made up, which one is the real definition?
/r/MensRights01/08/11 01:20 AM
1

no but you see this guy has his own definition of why it's okay to insult men by attacking their masculinity and calling them a vagina!
/r/MensRights01/08/11 01:18 AM
2

I don't think there was even a time in history blacks weren't allowed to earn wages, even in slave times there was the concept of free slaves, women were outright legally disallowed to earn money or hold property.
/r/MensRights01/08/11 01:09 AM
5

how about I watch starwars and the smurfs movies if your source of history is movies.
/r/MensRights01/08/11 12:47 AM
1

mensrights doesn't hate women! They just think they are inferior to men!
/r/MensRights01/08/11 12:28 AM
2

Oh, I seem to remember mensrights having a different definition of this last time they posted about it! http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/f8uz2/reminder_lets_keep_this_place_classy_rmensrights/c1e82g8 Q: What is a mangina? A: A mangina is an emasculated male who defers and caters to women. He has no spine to tell a woman NO. He feels ashamed of his sexuality and often condemns other men on behalf of women. Mangina symptoms: You can't say NO to women You rarely confront a women or stand…
/r/MensRights01/08/11 12:26 AM
7

That is historical fact! Women could not own property in America, or take wages, they could not vote, they did not have any rights independent of their husband or father until the lat 1800s. They were literally property.
/r/MensRights01/08/11 12:22 AM
1

don't you want equal rights? not mens rights?
/r/MensRights31/07/11 11:56 PM
6

Yeah the real difference that mens rights opposes feminism but feminism doesn't oppose mens rights.
/r/MensRights31/07/11 11:48 PM
4

I am literally just copying and pasting arguments this forum has made against feminism
/r/MensRights31/07/11 11:32 PM
7

if you are talking historically then yes, women were literally owned by men.
/r/MensRights31/07/11 11:23 PM
2

Honestly it would be so much better if there was a forum for mens rights and then a forum for anti-feminism, because the two are totally separate issues and it just hurts mensrights discussion that it is mixed in with a pretty extremist philosophy.
/r/MensRights31/07/11 11:18 PM
6

men literally owned women! It was not like slavery, it was LITERALLY SLAVERY.
/r/MensRights31/07/11 11:16 PM
3

You made up a hilarious super specific definition that you have mental problems if you think everyone else is using the way you use it instead of the obvious and simple "it's the word man + the word vagina"
/r/MensRights31/07/11 11:14 PM
5

Not following your logic bro. Why don't you call for equal rights? not just mens rights? Why not fight for rights for everyone?
/r/MensRights31/07/11 11:10 PM
5

So feminism has to be called egalitarianism but mens rights can be called mens rights? Whats the logic of the double standard?
/r/MensRights31/07/11 07:53 PM
4

Why does this forum get such a hard on for "don't be a feminist be an equalist" but then call the forum "mens rights"?
/r/MensRights31/07/11 07:40 PM
12

Also use phrases like "all whites are created equal" then just have black people assume maybe you mean them too.
/r/MensRights31/07/11 07:34 PM
1

It passed congress already, It got 35 states to vote for it and need three more. There has been several large pushes in individual states most recently in Florida. And it is re introduced because it's unclear how amendments that have partial votes work, and that is why there is now a bill trying to clarify that votes don't expire and only 3 states are now needed instead of having to start from scratch. There is still a ton of activity on this stuff, just because you are ignorant of it does not m…
/r/MensRights30/07/11 11:01 PM
2

At the start of the 112th Congress on January 6, 2011, Senator Menendez, along with Representatives Maloney, Jerrold Nadler and Gwen Moore, held a press conference advocating for the Equal Rights Amendment's adoption.[37] On March 8, 2011, the 100th Anniversary of International Women's Day, Representative Tammy Baldwin (D-WI) introduced legislation (H.J.Res 47) to remove the Congressionally imposed deadline for ratification of the Equal Rights Amendment.[38] Bill co-sponsors include Representati…
/r/MensRights30/07/11 09:54 PM
-1

Yeah, it's a legitimate question because you are too dumb or lazy to look up if it's still being lobbied for, and instead of looking up any information you just made an assumption no one lobbies for it anymore and then went on to make some conspiracy theory explaining why it isn't. When instead at least 3 bills have been introduced JUST THIS YEAR trying to help it's passage. And in fact it's passed the point it needs "a vote" and instead is looking for individual state support, which it continue…
/r/MensRights30/07/11 09:19 PM
1

On June 22, 2011, ERA ratification bills were introduced in the Senate (S.J.Res. 21) by lead sponsor Senator Robert Menendez (D-NJ) and in the House of Representatives (H.J. Res. 69) by lead sponsor Representative Carolyn Maloney (D-NY).
/r/MensRights30/07/11 09:12 PM
10

Does r/mensrights ever acknowledge that child support is for children? EVER? That it's not something women steal from men, it's money to pay for sustaining the life of your god damn children?
/r/MensRights30/07/11 03:12 PM
2

You are really this attached to the word mangina that you aren't going to admit that calling men pussies probably isn't the best way to fight male stereotyping?
/r/MensRights29/07/11 08:36 PM
4

Do a scavenger hunt for me, find 3 examples of the word being used in a mensrights post that is using it the way you claim the word is defined. It's clearly just another way to call someone a pussy.
/r/MensRights29/07/11 07:56 PM
5

I am not sure you got the best strategy to end stereotyping of men by using a slur like that. I mean the idea of calling men feminine is just reinforcing the stereotypes.
/r/MensRights29/07/11 06:54 PM
13

It does describe what you mean, attacking men for not following a specific conception of masculinity by calling them feminine. Like I get this isn't a forum that is going to get upset at using feminine as an insult, but you'd think it would be a forum that at least supported mens rights.
/r/MensRights29/07/11 05:24 PM
22

You say that in a thread full of people calling other men 'manginas'.
/r/MensRights29/07/11 05:05 PM
18

You guys sure are gonna have to get busy downvoting bad posts to counteract this! that will show them!
/r/MensRights29/07/11 03:57 PM
1

This forum only lets me post once every 10 minutes so this isn't really a forum that supports not using technical measures to suppress dissent.
/r/MensRights29/07/11 04:05 AM
-12

yeah a lot of the people hate women then too, you are right.
/r/MensRights29/07/11 03:49 AM
-15

Nah, this isn't a forum that hates women, it's a forum that loves women who are fuck toys or stays in their proper gender roles.
/r/MensRights29/07/11 03:16 AM
-4

Mensrights you can't possibly be defending this, this is the dumbest possible thing to defend, do you guys even try not to look like idiots?
/r/MensRights28/07/11 04:52 PM
15

/r/mensrights sure isn't the right forum for you if your of the opinion that men aren't SUPER OPPRESSED. Maybe make a forum for the stuff you are talking about and kick out the horrible people that have rotted r/mensrights into what it so often is.
/r/MensRights27/07/11 11:33 PM
62

Surprise! a group of people who have lived as both men and women doesn't share the opinion that men are the super oppressed group in this society!!!
/r/MensRights27/07/11 10:22 PM
5

see, this is why everyone thinks menrights is a forum devoted to saying women are inferior to men. (because it is that)
/r/MensRights27/07/11 02:14 AM
0

mensrights views rape as valid punishment for drinking alcohol, super!
/r/MensRights22/07/11 08:20 PM
0

Get raped? :picture of a girl: Sorry it doesn't count because you drank!
/r/MensRights21/07/11 02:30 PM
38

"It is a subreddit to wallow in persecution complexes and indulge in hatred." you mean r/mensrights?
/r/MensRights21/07/11 01:44 PM
-1

A society where nearly all position of power are filled by men: Not a patriarchy.
/r/MensRights20/07/11 09:30 PM
-5

and blacks and asians and hispanics and disabled people and nonchristians and gays and transgendered people? What about them? All are also vastly under-represented in position of power. Is it just that white straight christian men want it most?
/r/MensRights20/07/11 08:56 PM
1

So again, you are saying patriarchy is real, it's just what women want? Also you realize that not all positions are voted on. private sector, religious, and appointed offices of power are also male dominated. What there?
/r/MensRights20/07/11 08:46 PM
0

Again, that isn't saying that men DON'T have all the power, it's saying it's okay. The argument then shouldn't be that patriarchy doesn't exists, but that it's awesome and what women want. Or whatever.
/r/MensRights20/07/11 08:32 PM
-1

So again, you are saying patriarchy exists but is great and just and great for women? That men hold all the positions of power but that's taking the burden off all the ladies from having to do it?
/r/MensRights20/07/11 07:48 PM
-1

So basically you are saying that patriarchy doesn't exist because while it's true a vast majority of all leaders are male that is just and fair and women get to be moms instead anyway? And yes seriously popes. It's an organization of a billion people. Headed by men called fathers, pope literally means father.
/r/MensRights20/07/11 07:33 PM
-1

Presidents, popes, generals, ceos, governors, congressmen, police chiefs, middle mangers, pretty much anything that directly leads other people.
/r/MensRights20/07/11 06:53 PM
-4

On the other hand pretty much every single position of concrete power in our society is held by men.
/r/MensRights20/07/11 06:10 PM
1

That is not the feeling I would ever have picked up from the articles posted or the comments. Men's rights the forum seems dead set on innate traits and biological determinism as well as the importance of traditional gender roles.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 02:52 PM
-4

but again, saying "two extremes" very strongly paints a gender binary, is that the case? Excluding by definition the intersexed, gender queer and so on.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 06:37 AM
5

You have given at least 5 examples of things that could change your opinion, how does a person know what information they need to give you ahead of time?
/r/MensRights18/07/11 06:34 AM
-1

Well saying "both genders" certainly supports a specific view of gender.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 06:22 AM
-11

check the faq on why you are not wanted here I suppose then.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 06:21 AM
2

I did not ask you to tell me if they were welcome, I asked because I would like to see men's rights define what it means when it says "men", who are the men that get these rights? You can't just say "all men" since even that cries for a definition of "all men" and who is or isn't in that group.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 06:18 AM
-5

the game of having studies to back up your opinions? That can't be what you mean.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 06:14 AM
-1

This seems an awful lot like you are saying it's not true consent unless you have every bit of information possible, that seems at odds with a lot of the posts in this forum, in which the idea is that if two people want to and do have sex that that is always full consent and nothing less.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 06:14 AM
-5

(the FAQ is very clear you can not be in favor of men's rights and a feminist)
/r/MensRights18/07/11 06:10 AM
-2

Well again, a basic issue of men's rights would be defining who is a man to begin with to know what a men's right is.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 06:06 AM
6

If you mutually wanted to sleep with each other why does it matter?
/r/MensRights18/07/11 06:03 AM
-1

Well, yes or no. Feminism has said a lot on the construction of gender in our society, are you generally in the opinion they are correct or wrong. What is you base theory on gender in general. Is it innate? is it learned? is it binary? Is it in physical appearance, genes? What. At a basic level as a mod for men's rights you should be able to define who or what is or isn't a man. And what "man" means.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 05:47 AM
2

Oh, all that seems to say is that they are welcome, not any elaboration of your opinions. Feminism generally has a lot to say about gender issues, do you generally agree with their conclusions on the matter?
/r/MensRights18/07/11 05:24 AM
2

What part particularly?
/r/MensRights18/07/11 05:18 AM
5

Well mensrights certainly has a unique view on gender in our society, there must be more to the opinion of "I don't mind them" around how they fit in and their place in rights and so on. For example, through your understanding of gender in this society what reason would you give that transwomen are generally more common a target of scorn than transmen who while not beloved are nearly invisible in lay discussions of transgender?
/r/MensRights18/07/11 05:17 AM
-14

she was drunk! she was drunk and says she would not have done it not drunk! that is why you don't rape drunk people!
/r/MensRights17/07/11 07:33 PM
-8

did you read the 3rd panel?
/r/MensRights17/07/11 07:20 PM
-14

How is having sex with a woman that doesn't want to have sex with you ANYTHING but rape?
/r/MensRights17/07/11 06:10 PM
-3

So your response is that men should get government and CEO positions exclusively instead?
/r/MensRights12/07/11 03:47 AM
-4

are you saying only (white) men have more merit and deserve these jobs just inherently?
/r/MensRights12/07/11 01:51 AM
-1

Only 16% of congress is female, 3% of fortune 500 ceos. One would think 50/50 would be a pretty reasonable expectation. Or at least something that hits the margin of error 50/50 would expect.
/r/MensRights11/07/11 11:59 PM
-1

pretty literally every single one that pays large salaries.
/r/MensRights11/07/11 11:49 PM
-1

This seems to be just a random bunch of people you are labeling "feminists" just because. hitler liked men's rights, so therefore mensrights wants to kill jews. am i rite?
/r/MensRights11/07/11 11:21 PM
0

Because having little or no representatives in a large number of fields is also sexism and one worth ending more urgently than the need to end the framework to heal that inequality.
/r/MensRights11/07/11 11:07 PM
1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIJsEGKUl0U
/r/MensRights10/07/11 12:54 PM
-1

Again, which feminists? You can't say "feminists do X" without naming which. Have you ever even read any feminist literature? Can you even NAME any without going to google? Just the fact you list that list of quotes as "feminist leaders" shows how totally out of it you are, sharon stone?
/r/MensRights09/07/11 09:17 PM
-1

how do you definite "looking carefully"?
/r/MensRights09/07/11 08:42 PM
-1

it blatantly shows the cards of this forum, that it is an anti-feminist place and anti-woman, that things like this have nothing to do with the stated goal of the forum but everything to do with the actual goal.
/r/MensRights09/07/11 07:49 PM
-4

the fact this has any votes is pretty much literally why men's rights is a terrible forum and a disservice to anyone who is legitimately concerned with the issues men's rights pretends on the surface to talk about.
/r/MensRights09/07/11 06:39 PM
3

wait what?
/r/MensRights09/07/11 06:23 PM
0

yeah man, there has literally never been a show on tv that objectify women, EVER! Totally couldn't happen, am i rite?
/r/MensRights09/07/11 05:02 PM
-1

the status quo!
/r/MensRights03/07/11 11:04 PM
-10

You really show your motive by having such a scatter shot topic.
/r/MensRights20/03/11 03:27 PM
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