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Feel attraction is different from “being attractive”… I think I am attractive. Does that mean I am lusting after myself and that I am going to grow a penis and have sex with myself?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:26 AM
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Ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:20 AM
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Yes… it is just bad all around and there really is no need for it. Men just push it out of some kind of sick dominance or a need to conquer a woman’s entire body.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:56 AM
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So, if you say another man is attractive, that means you desire him?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:51 AM
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This. Men have changed “attractive” to mean “I want to have sex with that person” when it doesn’t mean that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:49 AM
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Lol at the pregnancies but that is right which is why I find it ridiculous when men keep claiming that women instantly get turned on just by looking. If that were true, most women would have five kids by the age of twenty and not know who the fathers were since they had sex with every handsome man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:48 AM
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No. Women say lack of options when they mean “no men of good character and ambition”… meaning all men available are jerks or they are kind but live in their parents’ basements.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:55 AM
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No. The “hoeflation” as you call it is caused by men, but it is by men’s uncontrollable desire and obsession with sex. If you require every woman who goes on a date with you to have sex with you, then overtime, that creates a LOT of women who have no husband but a high body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:53 AM
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Pegging is anal sex… you just don’t like it because your penis would not be pleasured as you dominate and torture someone else… but don’t ask for it if you can’t take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:17 AM
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It’s gradual confrontation… you keep bringing it up to slowly eat away at her until she makes her body available for you to torture. This is why I wouldn’t even entertain it. I would just immediately dump and block that man - no matter how “non-confrontational” he thought he was being.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:11 AM
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Those men are never going to have a relationship if it starts with “tell me all of the sex acts you’ve done with your ex so I can demand that you do them on me”. I’m a virgin and would leave a man who said that due to the principle of him trying to blackmail me into doing something that he thought I didn’t like while telling me I’m “lying”.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:33 AM
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So then you would suddenly not want the same kind of sex act she did with her ex because you don’t want to be penetrated in the butt but you wanted her taking your penis up her butt and expected her to be okay with the torture?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:09 AM
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Exactly. The whole reason that men were expected to “provide” is that women were going through torture giving birth, having kids, and being left alone to raise them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:04 AM
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Exactly. They ask a question disingenuously and then frame every answer around “women are lying”.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:03 AM
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No, but ChatGPT did 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:01 AM
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Thanks, ChatGPT.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:01 AM
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So? She still doesn’t want to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:00 AM
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If you can trust her, why are you having sex? Stop and leave. It’s not about trust though. You are hanging on to “could be lying” as a way to force someone into an act that they don’t want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:00 AM
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Even if it’s a lie, she doesn’t want to do it now. Let it go.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:58 AM
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Why is a man telling what he did privately and how do you know he’s not lying? An ex will say something salacious to cause a break-up on purpose and claiming to have received wild sex acts is one of the main lies used.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:58 AM
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Probably anal… that’s the main one that hurts women and many won’t do it so men dream up every scenario to either get her to try it or force her to keep doing it if she already tried and hated it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:56 AM
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You didn’t answer the question 🤷🏼‍♀️ If it turned out that she penetrated her ex instead of the other way around, would you be mad that she’s not penetrating you? Unless you just want women to be uncomfortable…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:54 AM
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Something is wrong with them. I am waiting for marriage with most things, but a man I was dating wanted to get married, so we talked in theory about what we would do sexually. I am as vanilla as you could get and basically said I would only consider PIV but if there are unusual positions of that out there, I would be interested. He brought up anal sex and said that he wouldn’t try it unless I took a bath. I said I have no interest in anal sex and that it sometimes causes health issues. He kept s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:51 AM
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This. All you have to go on is her word. If she said she didn’t enjoy it then she didn’t. If you don’t believe her then buzz off and stop trying to have sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:44 AM
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It shouldn’t matter even if she enjoyed it with someone else. The length of the relationship matters as well. If she was with the other person eight years before trying a bizarre act but she’s only been with you one year, then the level of trust is not there. But, really, relationships have different dynamics. As a man, you are not doing everything you did in your last relationship. You may have married your ex but you’re not marrying your current girlfriend. If you base your happiness in what s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:38 AM
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Unfortunately, they stay because they see it as a game of control - like “I will make you do what you did to him!”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:56 AM
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I’m saying that they might be autistic because of the rigidity. They keep repeating that women enjoy ALL types of sex, even obviously painful kinds like anal and the only reason she wouldn’t do it is that the man is not hot - despite being told otherwise. Being rigid about a stupid belief despite being repeatedly told otherwise is a sign of autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:47 PM
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Exactly. When I was in high school, low class boys who were not going anywhere would deliberately have sex with upwardly mobile girls and refuse to use condoms or use a broken one with the intent to get her pregnant because he wanted proof that he’d had sex and license to then exaggerate the number of times and the kinds of sex had.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:44 PM
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This and it could be plausible that the women refusing may see other ways he is careless in his life that points to him being clumsy and possibly hurting her in the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:36 PM
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Exactly. They do it all of the time and we just deal with it but, if sex is involved, then they have to beg , pout, and make multiple posts. And it’s completely acceptable for a man to say “I was married before and didn’t like it”, even if that’s a lie and he marries the next person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:31 PM
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For a man demanding it from a woman, it is going to involve him inserting his penis somewhere so the question still stands. If you were gay and had previously tried all of the sex acts, would you lie naked in front of your new partner and give blanket access for him to penetrate you anywhere, even if you didn’t like it with the old partner since “you could be lying and you found him hotter”?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:28 PM
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This! I don’t want that hot I want your body type of love because, one day, they are going to be used to your body or find it not as hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:26 PM
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But men are claiming women had better do every sex act, especially if she has tried it and they have the privilege of saying this because they are going to be the one inserting, so I am asking if a man would do the same and make every hole on his body available when there is a penis involved. So far, not one has said they would. They can’t get hurt much by a vagina or butt so that’s why they make so many demands on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:24 PM
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Yes!!! They say that they can’t date in their social group but, if they weren’t, how would this even be an issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:17 PM
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This. These kind of posts also ignore that each relationship is different and no one does everything they did in one relationship in the next because relationships take on different aspects and dynamics naturally. I bet the men aren’t saying “I bought my last girlfriend a car so I am going to buy one for this one as well”.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:15 PM
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Requiring a sex act because it was done to another man is illogical from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:10 PM
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This. The tropical beach example was so stupid. If I want a man to take me to a tropical beach, I want that from the start and not only after hearing someone else went. That was their relationship dynamic. My relationship with a man is going to be different than any other relationship he’s had and that’s how it should be. A man can’t require a woman to do everything she did in another relationship because each relationship has its own dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:09 PM
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If you were a gay man and your male partner, who was a top, presented the same logic to you - that you had to allow his penis to penetrate every part of your body because you had done so with another man and any excuse was you “lying to yourself”, would you do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:05 PM
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This… and they keep saying that they hear it if she dated other men in their social group but men frequently, VERY frequently lie about what a woman has done with them and if she liked it because that makes them look good to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:01 PM
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Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:56 PM
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Listen to what the particular woman YOU are dating is telling you without trying to guess if she is lying or lying to herself. All women are not the same and having an “all women do X” attitude is going to keep you lonely for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:54 PM
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I honestly think women should tell men who demand this stuff that they want to see them do it first… so these men have to have anal and oral with another man while she watches so that he knows how that feels. Maybe then he would see why a woman would try it and then back out and not want to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:52 PM
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If that’s how you feel, then don’t even try to have sex with her. Also, is it so hard to believe that a lot of women hate anal and oral sex that you have to pretend you’re a psychologist trying to “see if she’s lying to herself”? Do you think you would like something being shoved up your butt or a schlong in your mouth?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:49 PM
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You keep saying they were hotter! None of the women are saying this. Men are so insecure if the only reason they can mentally process is someone being hotter when women are directly telling them THAT IS NOT THE REASON 🤦🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:46 PM
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I would leave, but I think I am in the minority. Women forgive this too much. There is no excuse for cheating. That being said, I don’t consider just kissing to be cheating but that does mean that something needs to change because he is close to cheating. However, if he had sex or they were naked, etc., I’m leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:42 PM
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Exactly… they are also thinking that all women like ALL sex acts simply because most acts for men do not involve penetration so there is less risk and less pain involved but a lot of women do not like all sex acts due to risk and injury.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:39 PM
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This. Men are creating this situation in their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:36 PM
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The second part is relevant. You are expecting women to make every hole on their bodies available to every man, despite level of trust, level of enjoyment, etc. just because she did that with one man that she trusted - when men can really damage women with penises. So, would you make your body completely available like this if women had penises and you could get hurt if something went sideways?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:36 PM
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If he doesn’t trust her, why is he even attempting any sex act with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:30 PM
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The problem is, an egotistical men like the ones who have this concern in the first place is going to hear any response as the last one: “I don’t want this act with you” and is going to dig and dig, ask past partners, etc. until they think they have cornered her with that as an answer, even if it wasn’t. Also, a person could have enjoyed an act in the past but not want it because of new information. For instance, too much anal sex can cause you to start pooping on yourself. She could have found …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:29 PM
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Exactly… even if she is dating someone “safe”, it might be because she doesn’t want to be coerced into acts she does not enjoy and if you turn into that weirdo, then you are getting dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:17 PM
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Nope. You don’t know WHY she did it. You are assuming she found him hot. That may not be it. That’s the point. She may simply have tried something and just decided that now she doesn’t want to do it. The problem is that men have the organ that causes the most damage, so they constantly want to look for justification to stick it in anywhere. If women had penises, this discussion would not exist and you definitely would not demand that she sticks her penis in you everywhere that she did on other g…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:14 PM
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Getting the truth is not the point because she can still decide against it at ANY time, yet, you are so focused on what another guy’s penis did instead of your needs independent of that. If you need semen swallowed (which is disgusting and egotistical if you ask me and does nothing for a man) and she doesn’t do it, then leave - but leave because YOU need it - not because of another man’s penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:08 PM
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The point is, she does not want to do the act now… so even if she did enjoy it back then, she may simply not want to do that act anymore. People can decide against an act for any reason. Your decision should not be based on if she’s done it but do YOU require it to feel satisfied and, if so, then leave. I have heard men use the same argument against women who had sex while not married and then joined a religion where sex outside of marriage is not allowed - and they try to tell these women they …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:49 PM
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Well, why aren’t you getting hot and putting in the work if you really believe that mess? And, I think I speak for a lot of women when I say that my biggest crushes were NOT in any way hot in the conventional since… and I mean big noses, short, bald headed, big stomachs, etc., but they were kind (not nice) and providers (they tried to look out for family members or any woman they were trying to get). I have turned down guys who were hot (and I mean guys that looked like Fabio and constantly work…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:39 PM
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Multiple sex acts does not mean she was more attracted… if anything, it could mean she did not feel safe to say no in that relationship… but you’d rather she’d reluctantly give you anal sex and cry the entire time just because that’s what she endured with someone else, for your stinking ego, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:33 PM
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But multiple sex acts doesn’t mean the sex was “good” or “superior”, especially if she is saying she didn’t enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:30 PM
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Flip the script and let’s say women have penises. Now, are you up for anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:16 PM
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It could have literally made her sick. Suppose we flip the script and the woman in question is a trans woman who hasn’t had bottom surgery and she says “I am going to do everything to you I did to other men” and proceeds to insert her penis everywhere. Of course, the man would be shocked but she could then say “haven’t you performed oral sex on vaginas? Performing it on my penis is the same”. The opinion of men would change the moment that they are not the one yielding the organ that causes the …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:35 PM
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I would be fine with it and glad that he is being honest 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:28 PM
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There are some acts that people just HATE. They should not have to endure torture to prove loyalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:25 PM
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Women will start lying to avoid blackmail if they have done an act they hated and their current partner is trying to press for the same act.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:22 PM
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Perfect!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:20 PM
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They are so upset over not wanting to have to be a good person. I travel a lot and I see a lot of happy couples, many who are married, and most of the men are NOT cute at all but lot of the women are gorgeous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:19 PM
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The problem is that any man who filters this way is filtering for sex and not a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:13 PM
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Exactly. Nothing except we would end up stuck with cute loser who pretended to be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:12 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:10 PM
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Wrong. Looks do not do anything for us alone. Being pleasant is great, but we have to be able to tell if he will be a good father, can he provide, and if he has toxic views about women. Yes, we can work, but pregnancy can also take us out of work. Men filter for looks because they filter for themselves only. Women are filtering for their entire families that they will create. We also do not get turned on just by looks because we are wired to filter for an entire family.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:09 PM
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Keep lying if you want to… but most women aren’t just saying “here’s my body. Rape it as you please.” There are women who wait for marriage and only do traditional acts
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:47 PM
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He could also be lying about what she did to get a certain reaction from men like you so that she ends up breaking up with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:45 PM
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The post was about sex acts, so if you weren’t talking about that, then you commented on the wrong post. Otherwise, you’re gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:24 PM
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It only gets out if a man is telling, so he was a scumbag anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:23 PM
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Cool… then leave 🤷🏼‍♀️… and a man threatening to leave if a woman doesn’t do a certain act is rapey unless he actually just leaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:22 PM
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Nope. Sex acts do not equal enthusiasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:20 PM
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Exactly, which is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:20 PM
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Men should not be telling what they do with other women anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:19 PM
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No sex act is ever “necessary” to maintain anyone’s affections.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:18 PM
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Exactly… it is very common.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:10 PM
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Exactly and these people are missing the forest for the trees. If she is telling him details about her past and what she likes and doesn’t like, that would actually mean she is more comfortable with him, likes him, and trusts him more than the other person with whom she just cried through the acts while afraid to say anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:08 PM
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Unfortunately, it is the average experience which is why women refuse certain acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:45 PM
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I used the correct meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:44 PM
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This and if I married a man who said that he tried oral sex with someone and hated it so much that he would never do it again, I would be okay with that. I would actually feel as if he liked me more since he was open about something like that with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:44 PM
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Nope… being coerced into an act and crying while deciding you are leaving and then never trying the act again have nothing to do with how much you like someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:40 PM
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Okay… well, they are raping.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:39 PM
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Men keep making it about looks when the most common scenario is the one I gave… a woman being coerced into a sex act that they hate in a relationship but they are afraid not to do it because he gets angry, stomps, stops communicating, etc. so they do it in tears but plan to leave the relationship. In the next, they set the boundary early that “I don’t do X” and then he wants to try to blackmail her with “have you ever done X?”… “Well, you have to do it with me.” What’s going to happen is women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:38 PM
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That’s fine. I know you thought you were getting smart with me, but that would be fine with me. I would just take it that you learned something on all of those vacations, money spent, etc. that made you no longer want to do those things and that’s okay. I’m an adult… I’m not going to say “😢but you did it with her” like some of the dumb babies here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:31 PM
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Sex acts have nothing to do with being the second choice. If your partner did anal sex while begging and crying and asking the person to stop in their last relationship but loves to do PIV with you, who is really “second best”?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:29 PM
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Nope… that diatribe had nothing to do with the post. If you don’t like the kind of sex you are getting and there’s no compromise, then leave based on what you’re not getting and not some idea of what you think your partner did before.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:27 PM
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Pushy behavior can border on rape because, once someone says they don’t enjoy or want to try a certain act and you try to convince them, threaten to break up, etc., then that is sex by coercion. In some countries, that is a crime. The moment that someone says “I don’t want to do that”, the conversation ends. If you want to actually break up because of it then do that but don’t just threaten to break up thinking that it will get you the kind of sex you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:25 PM
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Exactly… these men have to be autistic because nuance doesn’t exist for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:13 PM
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What? Cheating has nothing to do with that person’s comment because that would be done during the relationship and not before.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:12 PM
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Exactly and whether or not someone did certain sex acts has no bearing on if they like you or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:59 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:58 PM
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“Enthusiastic” and which sex acts were done are not the same… she may have been crying and begging him to stop during anal sex but would love the idea of having PIV sex with you. You are equating number of acts tried with enthusiasm when those are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:36 PM
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You implied it 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:27 PM
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I don’t understand most of the acts you mentioned, but I am assuming those are homosexual acts. Sexuality is different than comparing an act that was done, was not enjoyed, but saying you want the person to do it to you despite the fact that it was not enjoyed. If someone engaged in acts of a completely different sexuality, that should be discuss regardless of what the person is consenting to do now because having been a different sexuality or hiding sexuality in relationship is detrimental to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:27 PM
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Reality and rapey men should be in jail then 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:18 PM
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Exactly and these men keep begging for sex from every woman on the spot and don’t realize that they are essentially creating this outcome… women having had multiple partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:18 PM
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Exactly… he thought he made a contradictory point when that is the actual point intended.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:13 PM
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No kidding!!! And they always claim they want a woman who knows what they want but then get mad and try to factor in what another man wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:13 PM
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Exactly. They are using conspiracy logic to essentially rape women by enforcing certain acts that they don’t want.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:51 PM
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That’s a very rapey way to think about it though… and the pushy man is more than likely not trying to sustain a long-term relationship, so he doesn’t mind coercion (suited here) or bordering on rape and then the next man wants to continue to border on rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:49 PM
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Wrong and that type of thinking is a personal issue. I never said she was a victim, but men will play games in an established relationship and beg women to try things but then won’t stop if she doesn’t like it so she leaves the relationship, learns from it, and refuses to try things. People who think like you are rapey because you don’t want people to enforce stronger boundaries so you frame it as anything that was tried before has to continue or else she “doesn’t like” you - which is essentiall…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:44 PM
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No. It could be (most likely) that she was coerced into certain acts in another relationship, like it started with “just try anal” or something like that. She hated it, but then he turned to “you did it the last time so you have to keep doing it”. Afterward, she realized how unhealthy that mindset is and decided that she would put boundaries up front the next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:09 PM
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Exactly. Dads show up for the fun, easy moments and that’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:36 AM
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I don’t agree with the physical peak because I think people have different ones depending on how they take care of themselves, but I agree with the personality peak. As soon as I hit mid 30s, all of the women either wanted to talk about childbirth, perimenopause, or doctor’s appointments. You can’t finish a discussion without “did you get a mammogram?” and if anyone says no, then the entire discussion becomes “mammograms”. Everything gets blamed on perimenopause and “everyone” has symptoms even …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:03 AM
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Gross… you are obsessed with comparing penises. That’s not what this discussion is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:47 AM
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This… he is also obviously using that person while stalking to see who she had before, which is gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:46 AM
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Exactly. We’re talking about kids and he’s still mad that men are horny and women have vaginas.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:45 AM
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We’re talking about kids and you’re essentially saying that men are so horny that women are free to have sex with them… not even the same topic. Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:44 AM
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I didn’t say cheating alone was the problem. Everything I typed are the problems, but I agree that the deck is stacked against women and as soon as women started demanding more support or questioning it, then men suddenly didn’t want kids. They were fine though, as long as women kept accepting it quietly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:00 AM
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They do have a point though. Most of us are here because our parents liked to have sex. Few actually loved each other because most split after the baby is born.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:22 AM
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Exactly… the man who commented obviously didn’t get it. It’s not men and women not needing each other. It’s women deciding that they don’t want to do all of the work if the man is going to leave and go after a perfect bodied-woman who didn’t have kids BUT when women started putting their foot down and demanding fairness, then the men started to say “well, we don’t want kids now”, since they would actually have to do work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:19 AM
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Exactly. I honestly think most of the men in this group are autistic because there is a severe lack of understanding nuance and they want everything to be rigid and gamified. “If I wear a green shirt, she will have sex, because all women have sex if they see a green shirt” and then look 😵‍💫 when it doesn’t work. Real life has nuance and can’t be gamified.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:15 AM
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Most women are not doing this. The only time I have seen this happen was during scandals where it was difficult to prove if the person did it. I have seen, in certain communities, ALL adults get together and protect the obvious culprit because they are a friend or family member.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:11 AM
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The problem is women are seeing how it was stacked unfairly where they have the kids, ruin their bodies, change all of the diapers, and have to give up most of their careers while the men don’t or even leave for a woman who has no kids to have the best of both worlds. When women stopped agreeing to do all of the work, then men had to step up but, as it turns out, they didn’t want kids if the wife wasn’t going to be the slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:08 AM
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The “political correctness” around being trans. People expect the person to select the transperson to avoid being called “transphobic”, which puts both people in a bad position.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:43 PM
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If you look through my comments, I never said women don’t make bad decisions. What I did say, is that they get rid of the scumbag when they see who he is. You desperately want an excuse for why you can’t get women and you need the lie to stick that only obvious jerks get women to make yourself feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:21 PM
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Literally that they put someone in the line up that was highly likely to get rejected and even the most polite way of rejecting still would have been hurtful but accepting the date would have been hurtful to the man if he only desires cis women. The producers created a scenario where one person would have been hurt or humiliated either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:52 PM
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I actually agree with this that he wasn’t wrong to turn the person down, especially on a show that is supposed to be about cis women and cis men. However, he should have just been respectful and addressed it with the producers backstage since they were the ones that allowed the line up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:46 PM
1

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:18 PM
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Keep making excuses for bad behavior 🤷🏼‍♀️ It’s still not going to get you any sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:17 PM
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But it’s fake confidence. Narcissism causes a fake confidence to hide insecurities, which still means she’s out once she sees it 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:15 PM
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This. And while some do, they don’t maintain relationships long unless the woman is afraid to leave by that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:04 PM
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Wrong. Psychiatrists struggle to diagnose psychopaths, so how could an unlicensed woman do so? Yet, as soon as they see that something is wrong, they get out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:03 PM
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Women do not confuse anything. Psychopathic men pretend to be confident and even psychiatrists have trouble recognizing psychopaths, so how could a random woman do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:02 PM
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Yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:00 PM
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Exactly… and they still keep thinking they can scheme the system and somehow get sex without a relationship when that rarely works unless they lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:56 PM
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Blocked
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:53 PM
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Nope. Women keep telling you that hot men do not automatically make us override everything else the way that it does for men. Get that through your head or else you will be here whining for the rest of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:53 PM
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I think you are finally starting to get the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:50 PM
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Because you are faking it. Kindness is a character trait. Either you have it or you don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:44 PM
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Nope. Wolves in sheep’s clothing… so many women get killed by men and you want to think “wow. She let him kill her because he’s hot”. That’s not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:42 PM
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It has nothing to do with appearance. Why can’t men get that through their heads? Those men were not hot and, even if they were, that’s not what got them “in the door”. Lying or being a psychopath got them in the door and they were kicked out as soon as she saw it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:41 PM
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I agree and they still don’t realize that all of the fake niceness and expecting women to have sex on the spot makes them the a55hole they are claiming not to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:37 PM
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That’s just men being disgusting and lying to get female attention. That has nothing to do with the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:32 PM
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I can’t tell if they are mentally disabled or if they are just “overthinking” on purpose at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:31 PM
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This. So many men come here giving plans about what toxic behaviors they want to do but still believe that some woman will see it and think “wow, that turns me on”.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:55 PM
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Wrong. I know myself but you are obviously projecting because you don’t know yourself. It’s okay. You can get help.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:44 PM
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Well, stop and actually break things off if you think they are not going well, but playing some kind of childish game like OP isn’t it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:43 PM
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I know myself well and I study psychology… that requires you to know yourself and you start to know everyone around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:39 PM
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This is likely satire, but coming from a woman, it’s true. Women hate kissing or being intimate with men they don’t like, so many will tell you. However, if they don’t and they actually DO ghost you and you are sure of it, then yes, leave them alone but NOT as some stupid game to try to make them run back. Actually end things and leave her alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:38 PM
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I do… I guess you can’t wrap your head around women knowing real men 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:35 PM
2

The men that I see in my community that have real relationships with women or are happy alone and are not crying about their penis not being in a vagina or making posts about playing mind games to see if women will chase them and shower them with sex… those are real men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:16 PM
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That’s bizarre if your privates control you to that degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:11 PM
1

Exactly. Real men aren’t even on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:10 PM
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When these guys stop getting sex altogether because women are just blocking them instead of falling for their manipulation, then they will listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:07 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:05 PM
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Manipulation at its finest. Just be a man, ask the questions, and end things. Men that go silent on me to indicate “other options” without talking get blocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:05 PM
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This is why men like you will never get anyone. You’re still children.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:38 AM
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You are reacting to perceived slights and assuming loss of interest and then running off like a little boy to see if she chases you, which is stupid. Be a man, ask if she lost interest, and then end things. If you can’t do that, you definitely don’t need to be having sex since you are still a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:37 AM
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And mind games if you can’t announce it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:20 AM
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Great. Announce the break up and give them space. If you can’t announce it, you’re not an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:19 AM
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Exactly. They want some kind of formula to guarantee sex upon just meeting but most women do not want instant sex, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:18 AM
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None of that works. I don’t have sex until married. No matter how cute, popular, etc. a man is, it doesn’t make me want sex in a STR.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:16 AM
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Move on after breaking it off like a real man. Don’t move on by ghosting like a coward.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:14 AM
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Exactly. That’s what this is… mind games so that a woman has to shower them with constant sex or else he is going to shut down
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:13 AM
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So you are ghosting to manipulate her? And these guys wonder why they are single 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:11 AM
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Exactly and they think they are punishing her for starting to lose interest by ghosting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:10 AM
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A random person begging for sex and a married woman complaining that her man is using her body for his pleasure only is not the same… and the man is probably the same kind of dufus who was begging for sex years earlier only to use his wife’s body like a human sex toy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 05:31 AM
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The type of guys who would need one only want sex anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:05 AM
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This. They want someone to desire them in a real relationship while they only care about sex with that person. A robot wouldn’t work unless it was somehow programmed to beg the man for a relationship while he used it for sex. I guess we would constantly see used robots on the side of the road because men “used them for sex and dumped them” since that’s what men really want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:04 AM
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There must be something wrong with who you are as a person, if that’s the case. Even if there’s not, showing a “gym bro” façade when that’s not the real you and then showing the real you would cause anyone to run because they feel like you hid who you are from them… like a bait and switch.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:51 AM
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Women are not saying they want one thing and going for something else. Men just are not trying to hear women because they think that using man-logic works. Niceness is not something that you put on. Chivalry is not something that you “use” to get a woman. Chivalry should be a part of your character and something that you practice even if you don’t care for the woman… like an elderly woman entering a drugstore. This is why “acting” nice or “putting on your best face” doesn’t work. We can see thro…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:48 AM
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The problem is they are presenting niceness as a act when women want a kind man who does these things because of his character rather than doing it in a transactional way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:42 AM
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I keep saying it has little to nothing do with money but it’s like talking to a stupid rock. The people who get it, get it. The rest will just have to look stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:33 AM
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Wrong. Most of the women I know are putting in work or already have; they just don’t like bums who haven’t expecting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:21 PM
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Exactly… it would be funny if everyone collectively blocked men who say illogical things like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:19 PM
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Exactly. Also, women are far more realistic. You would never see a homeless woman who needs a bath approaching a rich man who is kind with good hygiene for a date with a promise of sex on the first date and then ranting on Reddit about how it didn’t work. Women rarely approach men in situations or ways in which it obviously wouldn’t work. LVM are illogical but HVM can sometimes be illogical (going after very young women who may not want them and not reading the room), although I would question r…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:18 PM
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My comment was in agreement with her, but women also need to put in serious work. The problem is that the women who have put in the work are the ones that the men who haven’t put in the work expect to have sex with them and take on all of the risks with no strings attached. Men who still need work almost never ask women who still need work for instant sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:49 PM
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I never said very successful. That’s why I keep saying you are not listening. The lower job is a symptom of not being motivated to do self-improvement, which means it is going to leak into everything, even your attempts to connect with women near your social group. Then, you get desperate and start begging random women for sex. Men who do self-improvement often have better jobs, better personalities, and are better connecting with women in their social group - so they start long-term relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:21 PM
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It’s the men who can’t distinguish which one they are displaying and are quick to try to guilt trip women into accepting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:06 PM
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This is an example of men not listening.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:03 PM
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And some of that “sex” is rape 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 09:18 PM
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Actually, it DOES matter if they are real or fake. Women are not dumb. Kindness is not a condom that you put on when you think you are about to have sex and then throw out when you’re done. An actual kind man will date women within his perimeter that match him and try to develop a relationship. A fake nice man tells a lot of lies to random women to try to see if they will have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 09:17 PM
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Umm… those norms include ruining my body by having his kids, having my vagina ripped apart during labors, taking the most risks for contracting STIs… nope… norms are not in my favor 🤷🏼‍♀️ You also missed my point. The men who are begging for sex have to do so because they are not in a relationship. The reason they are not in a relationship is because there is serious work they need to do on themselves that they are not doing, hence the reason that they have jobs as technicians, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 09:08 PM
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Exactly and they claim “sex is like a handshake” when they want women to give it up, completely ignoring the exchange of bodily fluids, but if they meet the rare woman who also thinks the same then she’s “gross” and “giving away something sacred”, which shows that they know sex is serious and sacred but they just pretend it’s not when they want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 09:06 PM
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This… they also don’t understand that kindness is a character trait and not something that you wear to get sex and then take it off. Women also do not suddenly want sex because of someone’s looks or money - but they can’t see that because they think with their private parts so they can’t imagine sexuality actually being controlled by someone’s brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 09:04 PM
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I work in a field that is male dominated and real men who have decent jobs are not begging for sex. Most of them just ask women out who are in their social circle, start relationships that don’t begin with sex, pay for dates without expecting anything, and eventually get married. It’s mostly the lower class technicians or men who are struggling in some way that beg for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 07:10 PM
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This. They don’t actually want a relationship with women which is why they detest paying for dates (even though that is a small investment considering that she would be having his kids and taking all of the risks during sex). They just want women to immediately make their bodies available for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:13 PM
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A lot of times, if you ask those hurt men if they have ever dated, the response is “yes, but it didn’t lead to sex”, which means these men are crying over sex and sex is not a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 04:29 PM
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This. They do act entitled when they act like a woman who has had sex must continue to do it and include them or a woman they went on a date with MUST have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 04:21 PM
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Similar. I have a type and try to keep myself looking attractive in case my person appears, but I don’t obsess over it and I have built myself a decent single life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 04:05 AM
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This. Women are going to have to withhold sex until casual sex or first date sex becomes obsolete.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 01:12 AM
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If women start withholding sex, it will force men to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 01:10 AM
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And that type of man will never get what he wants if he is walking around muted until he gets sex, because the sex that he wants carries too many risks for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 01:09 AM
1

This!!! The risks are stacked against women and sleeping with a guy for the 5% chance he might stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 01:08 AM
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Exactly and men lie to get around the hypervigilance of these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 01:03 AM
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This is why I don’t have sex before marriage. It removes 99% of the chance of a man doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 01:01 AM
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This. A lot of men dangle the carrot or are vague about their intentions in purpose and then, bam, they call it off immediately as soon as they take their penis out of the vagina. Women are not stupid. If he’s calling it off just seconds after sex, then he was using her for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 01:00 AM
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