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| 1 | CMV: Women sexually assaulting men is (almost) never as severe as men sexually assaulting anyoneIn terms of simple physicality, I suppose that's right. I've had women physically attack and just "swing for the fences," but I've never felt in fear for my life. On the flip side, if I were to cut loose like that? Obviously, that's gonna get really ugly. But putting the physical (and logistical) issues aside... Maybe using your example of groping as a more universally applicable circumstance. I think that could be taken as more psychologically damaging to men. Only because the prevailing attitu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/25 10:21 AM |
| 1 | Unwanted men are criticized whenever they try to passively drop out of the dating marketI have seen a fair amount of criticism in the media about this. My guess is that it's due to the impact this tends to have on society as far as maintaining social support structures into the future. Apart from articles, I see politicians and even guys like Elon Musk addressing this issue on occasion. As for more "general public discourse," perhaps it's because this is such a primal drive. It's like something we're almost biologically driven to talk about. From video games to movies to music. We … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/25 01:25 AM |
| – | Red Pill Rhetoric: A Cheap Show of Insecurity and FearI think you're right about a bit of it being simple showmanship. Obviously it gets attention, but I think that's a conscious decision in how to play it (for media types). I suppose akin to how military basic training tends to seem over-the-top where the "seasoned soldiers" are much less "theatrical" in their interactions, if that makes sense. Still, I think a lot of that expression is probably a reaction to how "blue pill" (not sure that's quite the right term), people approach their redefining … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/25 10:25 AM |
| 1 | Women can seem unapproachable these days hence why we don’t do it.Don't think you have to do 200 all in a day, but the ratio sounds about right (assuming "average guy"). Never actually made a successful approach myself, but about 1 in 10 will give you a number or contact info. Then about 1 in 10 of those will actually return your calls. So, maybe it's more like 1 in 100 will have some limited potential. I'm still 0 for about 40 (gotten a few numbers, but never actually had anyone call back). I guess if you can approach 200 women a week... I imagine the law of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/25 05:05 AM |
| 1 | Investment in Dating: Men Should Copy Mid/Ugly Women’s ApproachI think you might be on to something here. Not that this would actually help normal guys get dates, but I think you may have actually hit upon something of a solution to the bigger issue plaguing modern dating. If it's true that average looking women are unnaturally raising their standards due to the fact that they can still sleep with exceptionally good looking (or rich/famous/whatever) men, is it possible this also works in reverse? That more "mid" guys approaching beautiful women would get th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/24 03:46 AM |
| 4 | Society can actually fix dating. And this can happen voluntarily and does not require violenceI think what you mentioned about trust is probably true. People always say that is kind of the reality of marriage. Give and take. Compromise and all that. Sadly, I think the era of marriage is over. Not sure about the personality trait thing though. I actually thought it was more "normal" to be attracted to bad boy archetypes as they are generally more willing to put themselves ahead of everyone else at the expense of others. Using even unethical means to get what they want. A nice guy might ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/24 04:20 PM |
| 1 | Has Mandatory Use of Dating Apps Changed the Game?No, I found a job at another company and left. She didn't tell HR. But we were a fairly close knit social circle. She's actually the one that invited me in when I started there. Just a bunch of 30-somethings that would go out after work and occasionally celebrate holidays together. That's why I mention the social groups. If you're "in" that group. Everyone hears about it. The guys were okay. They laughed, but it was kind of like ribbing a friend. The girls got really uptight about it. Like I'd c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/24 02:08 AM |
| 5 | Has Mandatory Use of Dating Apps Changed the Game?Just to be clear, I didn't kiss her. She was just standing really close and staring, and I thought that was supposed to be a "signal." But I understand that it's stupid to assume anything. Although, I'm not sure saying, "Hey, I really like you" would have gone any better. Rejection just automatically destroys your social standing among social groups (at least for men). At least I wouldn't risk it again. In outside social circles or work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/24 09:27 PM |
| 8 | Has Mandatory Use of Dating Apps Changed the Game?I can provide a personal example (though it never amounted to "harassment" or disciplinary action). Just a girl I liked at work. We hung out socially. I bought her coffee a few times, and I'm sure she knew I was interested. One night after a company dinner, she wanted to hang out. We went "window shopping." Got her more coffee... We were gonna see a movie, but nothing was interesting. And at the end of the night I walked her to her car. She stared at me strangely so I leaned in and she freaked o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/24 09:00 PM |
| 7 | CMV: Males should stop dropping out of the dating marketThat "putting in effort" thing sounds like it makes sense, but I'm not entirely convinced it makes much difference in reality. I think most men that aren't having any success have already gone through variations on this process (and there will still always be something you need to fix). In my experience it doesn't seem to change anything. I'd guess a fair number of men share this experience. Meanwhile, I do hear women complaining about how the "bar is on the floor." I'm not sure the effort put i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/24 01:40 AM |
| 1 | In your experience, are women on Reddit representative of women in real life? If so, what motivates you to still participate in dating?It's kind of a mix. About half are pretty much the same as they were. Just cool chicks. Dating standards may have changed, but that probably has more to do with the ubiquity of dating apps. As for the political angle, I think I know 2 women that openly support Trump. The rest range from moderate dislike to what appears to be mental illness (I mean that seriously, like believing and spreading sometimes preposterous stories of death camps and imprisoning reporters). The unfortunate thing is they a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/24 08:42 PM |
| 58 | “The bar is on the floor” for the men women consider their dating pool, which is always men above themI'm not sure about the confusion regarding why "high value" men treat them that way. Isn't it the same all around? Same game they run on guys, right? "The bar is on the floor, I'll literally give any guy a chance (to buy me drinks and dinner, and then I won't talk to them ever again)." For the guys, it's "The bar is on the floor. I'll sleep with pretty much any halfway decent looking chick (but I won't talk to them ever again)." Man, someone needs to figure out asexual reproduction. Human reprod… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/24 10:07 AM |
| 1 | Men are the biggest hypocrites when it comes to women’s dating choices.Is it that bad? I'm a little surprised. I've seen those images and usually I can see what people are going after, but I don't get that one. Lol! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 05:09 AM |
| 1 | Men are the biggest hypocrites when it comes to women’s dating choices.I haven't seen much interest in my circles about "The Doll," but in fairness I do remember some people being a little weird about Kim Jong Un's sister. Not sure how widespread that was either, but I did hear some people making jokes about it. I don't think it's hypocritical though. Just different interests explored a little differently by each gender. There certainly is a long standing tradition of women finding criminals really attractive, but I think that's "normal" to some degree. Isn't that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 04:18 AM |
| 1 | Older men are just not able to meet standards of women their age.I think most men would say it's almost instinctive. A kind of biological imperative, but admittedly, most people tend to agree with you. So perhaps, you're right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 10:40 AM |
| 1 | Older men are just not able to meet standards of women their age.Fair enough. I thought you mean to imply that simply desiring a beautiful woman was shallow. But, maybe none of it is shallow. Your needs simply change. And we're always going after that thing we truly want/need. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 10:36 AM |
| 1 | Older men are just not able to meet standards of women their age.I think people's needs change. Men and women. If you're young and you need a partner to build a life. I think that's very normal. There's probably a good reason we make divorce so difficult. You've built a life. But if we're talking older men with everything they want or need. Well, sexual attraction will probably always run rampant. Women's needs and desires might differ slightly, but I think you could probably argue that a lot of women kind of want that same thing. It's not someone to help the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 10:26 AM |
| 1 | Older men are just not able to meet standards of women their age.I think it's just a natural part of growing/getting older. Do women need men? Particularly older women? I see many women with the same attitude. They'll date a hot successful guy. But they literally don't need some average "nice guy." I think it all works the same way. It's just difficult for us to see when we're doing it ourselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 10:16 AM |
| 3 | Older men are just not able to meet standards of women their age.I would guess that at an older age, it probably is. Younger men need a life partner to grow and build a life with. I would assume that an older man is primarily attractive for his resources. If he's already "got it all," there's probably not much incentive to date anything except very attractive women. I'd even go a step further and say that high profile men want "trophy wives" specifically to impress all the other "ballers" they associate with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 10:03 AM |
| 1 | There's no reason a modern woman SHOULD date in her league. Men need to quit complaining about it and accept reality.I think you're going a little extreme, but I don't completely disagree. I think we're increasingly seeing this play out in real time. This may be a weird spin on it, but it kind of feels like we're returning to our "natural way." Just behaviorally speaking, hasn't this been the norm forever? Usually the "king of the tribe" banging all the women? I think monkeys do this too, right? Or maybe various other species. Marriage and committed relationships are probably a human construct designed to curb… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 01:39 PM |
| – | The discourse around male romantic loneliness is utterly ridiculousLol! That's an interesting way of putting it. That does kind of ring true. I assume the perception is that Republicans have money and they generally look down on those struggling? I think I'd agree that it's the same dynamic at play. It is harsh, but those rich kids are never gonna want to play with the poor guy. They're probably much more inclined to bash him incessantly in front of all their friends. Make an example of him. Show him where he really stands. Still, times change. the rich can fal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 12:25 PM |
| – | The discourse around male romantic loneliness is utterly ridiculousI think that's just the default mentality when it comes to people struggling. I guess the, "if you're poor, get a job" mindset. Still, underlying that, the stereotypes may be toxic but they're probably true to some degree, right? Maybe character flaws, bad personality, you're fat, or just downright ugly. I don't know if it's fair to slam people for that, but you can't force people to look past your flaws. An individual might be willing to give someone a pass if they perceive themselves as being … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 12:00 PM |
| 2 | Guys could put more effort into their dating profiles, pictures, and conversations to get better results. They are their own worse enemies.That's probably true. The vast majority of men I know post these same pictures on social media. I think it's just because it's not something at the forefront of who we are. But the guys I've seen on youtube that do those "tips" for men generally take photos that look like alcohol advertisements. They look like they're all CEO's drinking expensive whiskey at a high end bar or something. Guys really do need to understand what they're competing with. Not sure about personality and all that. From wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/24 12:54 PM |
| 5 | If you are a late bloomer / socially stunted, you may never fully catch upI don't know the demographic makeup of redpillers, but I take that first rule to imply that you need to stop doing useless stuff and make money or work out or whatever they recommend. I always thought videos games were hugely social. Do people not engage in it like a normal hobby? I mean, nerds do nerd shit, but they're still social aren't they? I always thought redpill was more singularly focused on attracting women through self improvement, no? So, video games are great, but that's not super a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/24 12:32 AM |
| 7 | Some men should stop wanting women to "lower" their standards to meet them.I don't mean this to be rude, but is it fair to say your wife "settled" for you? Her friends seem to think she can do better? Do you believe there's no one she finds more physically (or materially) attractive? I think everyone settles in some way, and I don't think that necessitates resentment. I think a guy would be happy, and maybe he'd go out of his way in the same way you do to express that appreciation. If she still resents that, I don't know what to say. I know people can be like that, but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/24 02:08 PM |
| 2 | The reason women don’t value sexI think level 3 might be more about acquiring status (or just having something others find desirable). I don't think men generally look for money in their partner. That probably explains the classic "trophy wife," (or hot young girlfriend if you're really big time) where you just want someone that looks good and, to a lesser degree, presents themselves well to friends and the public. Not sure on sexual desire. I think what you said plays into it, but I've always thought women were naturally less… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/24 10:00 AM |
| 2 | Men are just as irrational/emotional as women. (If anything, they are arguably more so on average.)I do wonder. I just have no idea what the consensus is regarding physiology and sexuality. Is it okay to suggest there maybe a biological reason, or is it considered strictly a matter of preference (or even social conditioning)? I actually think it's a good question. Just not sure anyone would want to touch that one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/24 02:37 AM |
| 4 | Men are just as irrational/emotional as women. (If anything, they are arguably more so on average.)Interesting. Is that for 8th grade through college? I was thinking it was more prevalent among women with elementary school age children (that's why the physical disparity thing). Although, I imagine there are even fewer male elementary school teachers than across high school and college, so data might not be reliable. But, I appreciate the info. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/24 02:06 AM |
| 1 | Men are just as irrational/emotional as women. (If anything, they are arguably more so on average.)Would it be more correct to say that it matches rates of male on female domestic violence, in that case? Would that suggest that given similar circumstances, a straight man and gay woman have about the same rate of abuse, while a straight women is more typically abused in a hetero relationship? I think that still suggests the same thing. That in a situation where they perceive themselves to be physically as strong as their partner, their rate of aggressive behavior mirrors that of men. Would tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/24 01:33 AM |
| 5 | Men are just as irrational/emotional as women. (If anything, they are arguably more so on average.)Just on the violence/crime issue, I think a lot of that is due to the strength/size difference between men and women. I only say that because I heard the rate of domestic violence among lesbian couples exceeds that of straight couples. I don't believe that's the case for gay men. Another loosely related issue may be the sexual abuse of children by teachers. Again, I think that's linked to a kind of strength/power dynamic. Not as directly (as it's a sexual crime), but I guess that is to say that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/24 01:15 AM |
| 3 | A lot of people who self-identity as having low SMV actually have a problem with having their standards way too highThis kind of makes sense though. These men sound pretty close to "top tier" guys. Maybe it does feel weird go out with what I'm assuming is average women you're pointing them in the direction of? I actually thought it was more common for (more desirable) men to just keep average women around as "situationships" until they could land the show-stoppers. Maybe it's good that they're holding out for what they think they deserve. I say it makes sense though, because dating markets currently seem heav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/24 12:48 PM |
| 1 | It doesn't make sense that men complain about promiscuous women but also complain that women's standards are too highThat might be the same women at two different points in their lives and speaking of two different kinds of men. Someone already elaborated on that. The comment about how hot guys don't have any requirements, but the average guy needs to provide everything. I think I actually see this among my own friends. They used to be a little cocky about the guys they'd get, but coming up on middle age, they are far more vocal about their demands for men (and have somewhat extreme reactions to rejection/chea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/24 08:03 AM |
| 4 | Women generally don't want us men to try to be friends with them, so it's up to us to act accordingly and listen to them.I don't think I've ever "approached" someone for friendship, but I actually think the dynamic here is exactly the same as approaching for relationships. I saw a video comparison of a good looking guy doing "cold approaches," and an ugly guy doing the same thing. There were no techniques or anything involved. Just very basic introduction and request for a phone number. The interesting thing is the good looking guy (obviously) got an almost universally positive reception. Even women turning him do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/24 09:36 PM |
| 11 | CMV: Nice guys don't finish lastLucky guy. I wonder if she has any kids he could raise too. How awesome would that be? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/24 05:16 PM |
| 1 | Most women don’t pick men based on their status or moneyI saw some study that was semi related to this. Something about how the best looking men get a significant increase in "desirability" vs status/money. I suppose that sounds stupid stating it like that. That's probably obvious. But I think red pill people throw status/money into the equation for exactly the reason you stated. For a woman that doesn't have those things it remains a significant factor in the decision making process. I guess women are a little different in that way. If desire is out… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 01:19 AM |
| 1 | Women SHOULD only aim to reproduce with the top 20% of menYeah, that's why I mentioned "personality defect." These were very normal, kind guys. It's just that those circumstances would certainly change how even a "nice guy" views his life choices. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 06:34 PM |
| 3 | Women SHOULD only aim to reproduce with the top 20% of menNot sure that would create a scenario with a lot of well adjusted men. Just from personal observations, the couple of guys I know that get a lot of women tend to not care so much about the women they sleep with. Not really due to a personality defect, but it seems like a product of simple excess. I guess like free markets, a surplus kind of lowers the value. I'd say the one common trait they've shared is the desire not to have children or engage in committed relationships. Actually, I hear that'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 04:51 PM |
| 2 | The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit ItI'm not sure that bit about women not understanding the difference between entertainment and relationships is true. I thought that was sort of a natural mating strategy. Women getting impregnated by the best physical specimen and using a "lesser" man to provide for their lifestyle. If you look at it in that way, most of this makes sense. Maybe women aren't trying to lock that guy down. There's just a biological drive to get knocked up by the hottest man that'll get up on them. Then a natural inc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/24 06:29 PM |
| 2 | American women are way more toxic than most other womenI sometimes think focusing too much on self esteem generally leads to poor behavior (for men and women). I do think that's something fairly unique to American culture. We seem to really fixate on pumping up egos regardless of achievement or success. I think that's a product of the culture and megaphoned by "influencers," and (to me) looks very tightly intertwined with social media trends. I've spent some time in Japan. This was a while ago with relatives, and I feel like the cultural dynamics ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/24 09:54 AM |
| 1 | Only telling men to self improve is bad adviceI don't know. I feel fairly average. I'm about 0 for 40. Got 4 numbers, so kind of a "1 in 10 guy," except nobody ever returns calls let alone goes on a date with you. I suppose I could just keep going but, for me, that kind of constant rejection does get into my head to some degree. It's not that I don't know how to turn off my feelings, but I am impressed that there are men that don't feel that at least a little inside. That said, I understand the idea is akin to "exposure therapy," right? I'm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/24 07:35 AM |
| 2 | Only "Successful" Lives are ValuedI don't think you should have excluded people that are drawn towards others for money or sex. Not sure if you meant that in a dating context, but I'd guess that the exact same rules apply. It probably seems crass to say you're primarily drawn to those things, but that's certainly a big motivator for a lot of people in personal relationships. I suspect that feeling likely spills over to how society perceives someone. I think the term for it is the "halo effect" (which I believe is mostly based on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/24 03:23 PM |
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