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Yep. Men must be rocks, strong and unshakeable. Anything less is not masculine. Now there is a time for vulnerability, but only in rare/infrequent situations (such as trusted male friends).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 08:41 PM
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Yes rules 1 and 2 go both ways imo. I finally understood how girls felt after the first time a girl I considered very unattractive grabbed at me in a club. Disgust is probably the word here. I probably wouldn't have felt that way if it was a hot girl that did that to me, although I've pretty much never had a hot girl make the first move, it's always been me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 04:16 PM
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Agreed, though not necessarily ugly, more of the forever-twelve type of babyface. They way I saw her sexualized in one of her music videos almost made me gag. I can't stand her voice either. But I'm sure she's a nice, sweet girl in person!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 05:33 PM
4

Great self awareness here. Don't settle for BB though, AB do exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 04:00 PM
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Now, to nurture my gf's self esteem to the point where this is a possibility...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:21 PM
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I personally prefer slutty halloween costumes, just sayin'
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:02 PM
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Responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 06:46 PM
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While I don't think this is necessarily a bad strategy to avoid being BB'd (especially if you hide your finances from whoever you're seeing at the time), I would write off people you haven't slept with just yet. My gf was a virgin when I met her and made me wait several months into our relationship before giving me her virginity. Given her inexperience, the wait was worth it and justified. Of course, if you're dealing with someone that isn't a virgin or has been with a few guys, being made to wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 10:59 PM
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You hold yourself accountable in becoming the vest version of yourself (that which is in your control). Whether someone is attracted to you is outside your control, and thus you should not hold yourself accountable to that. Attraction is non-negotiable and schotastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 04:42 PM
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Small son sorry. Make sure you eat more meat.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 07:54 PM
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This is gonna sound real crass, and while I do care about my partner's pleasure and do my best to get them off, all the girl has to do is face down, booty up - I'll do all the work. I'm a simple man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 06:38 PM
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In China, boyfriends are literally called women's wallets. So yes, it does happen at scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 02:49 PM
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While your points are interesting, particularly that of aliens, I'm more inclined to believe in the stability effect of marriage as a means to control and channel men's effort in building bigger and better societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 02:47 PM
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I'm curious as well here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 02:45 AM
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Boko haram
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 02:10 AM
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Religious doctrine and beliefs. Have you ever read The Bible before? Monogamy evolved in many cultures where the Abrahamic religions had no hold. Additionally, why did religious doctrine and beliefs evolve? Specifically, why did religious doctrine evolve to mandate monogamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 02:05 AM
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It didn't exactly "evolve." It was decreed as the standard and enforced via punishment for people who didn't adhere to it. Everyone else just followed suit. Ok but why was it decreed? Most species do not mate for life exactly, and most species only the alpha males of the group breed at all. What makes humans the exception in that the majority of males are desirable to breed with?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 01:08 AM
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Yes like I said i think the real disparity is less than that. But still doesn't answer the question, why did monogamy evolve in distinct, dominant cultures around the world? In the majority of the mammalian animal kingdom, only a small portion of males within a group breed. What makes humans different?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 12:25 AM
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It's not about the contributions of individual savants, but the overall motivation levels of the worker population that matters. I do agree that automation and technological advance could potentially prevent a society from being left behind or at least delay its decline. If polygamy ever becomes the norm in such a society, we'll find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 12:13 AM
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The 80% comes from a few different OLD studies wherein women find only 20% of men attractive, whereas men find about 50% of women attractive. In reality the disparity probably isn't as great, but nonetheless it exists. Just look at the phenomenon of leftover women in China.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 12:09 AM
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China is still a monogamous society. All top men in any society have multiple women, that's a given. It's only widely polygamist societies that are worse off comparatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 12:02 AM
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Sure, but look who's still thriving today..
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 11:44 PM
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You underestimate the power of male sexual need. 80% of the population is no joke. Why did monogamous societies evolve in vastly different cultures around the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 11:43 PM
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That's the exact video I was thinking of. Amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 11:41 PM
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It's very difficult to automate innovation. Your rivals will outcompete you still.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 11:40 PM
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That's true. Like the whole dad-bod = sexy meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 11:10 PM
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Yeah I think that's the way to go. Won't be able to afford a wedding anyways, have a mortgage coming up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 10:58 PM
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It is conjecture, yet we see the most successful societies today are all monogamous. The theory is believable and I wouldn't risk society to test it. Additionally, it's not necessarily about self worth, but rather primal need. Sexually unsatisfied men with no hopes of procreation do not make the best worker bees.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 10:57 PM
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Yeah this is what my gf wants. I'm ok with it but I think somewhere in the back of my mind I'd like at least a small celebration with close ones. She's just very averse to being in any spotlight.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 10:53 PM
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80% of men being celibate will lower the productivity of a society significantly, resulting in being out competed by rivals societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 10:51 PM
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Ive definitely encountered the idea of Patrons/Endorsers/Advocates for yourself.. looking forward to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 10:39 PM
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Okay, but what about the other vast majority of world changing men/kings/leaders that weren't celibate?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 10:33 PM
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This would ruin society though, with 80% of the men de-incentivized to work hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 10:24 PM
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Absolutely. Edit: as I'm no longer a student and well into the corporate world, I looked through your post history and remembered your CorporateLand series. Looking forward to going through them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 10:16 PM
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Oh my god she's a keeper!! 🥵🥵🥵
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 10:01 PM
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Men = wallets, workhorses, expendable cogs in a machine, beasts of burden. List goes on really. Can't count how many times I've been asked to move heavy shit just because I'm an in-shape man - I'm just a set of muscles to do manual shit huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 09:50 PM
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The legend himself Vasiliy is here on this sub?! I read through many of your posts back in the day dude. Good stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 09:44 PM
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Of course, hence why I stated at the very beginning that this what some men, who do care about sexual past, think. You're more than welcome to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 09:36 PM
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Your posts are missing the points of mine entirely, I don't think we're even talking about the same things here. Stop taking my examples literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 09:31 PM
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Ok interesting take, I don't agree but let's settle at that. Again please don't miss the forest for the trees here. Stop taking the example literally, maybe I should give you a less-triggering one instead: Someone that doesn't give a thought about littering = bad character = '' '' ".. etc. That work better for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 09:29 PM
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The definition of pair bonding is usually described in the intro sections of those studies. That is what those RP are referring to. Not sure what you mean by romantic bonds being formed solely by sex repulsive either. Nobody said that was the only metric to judge a woman, simply a vital piece of the larger resume. Visceral attractiveness is what causes men to chase women, not some recently discovered indicator of fertility. Attractiveness is only related to fertility in that what was evolved in …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 09:24 PM
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I think you meant misogynist, not misandrist here. The point was not the literal example, but an analogy to drive the point across. Let me put it this way for you, for some men: High n = indication of bad character (low inhibition, mental instability/other issues) = bad potential partner/mother/nurturer. Felon = indication of bad character (low inhibition, criminal, probably unreliable etc) = bad potential partner/father/provider. Makes sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 09:14 PM
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https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/67765169381354300/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 09:05 PM
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That's sad. I'm almost certain we'll be seeing near perfect androids one day in the distant future, if the non-progressives don't stifle it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 09:02 PM
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😏 you know what kind 😏.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:59 PM
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You find out (directly or indirectly) to gauge that compatibility in the first place. That what I've seen happens most of the time anyways. If it happens during the relationship, then the relationship breaks down or continues depending on the outcome. You see it all the time over at r/relationships or r/relationship_advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:54 PM
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Always nice to meet a fellow data nerd 😊. I think it's mainly the younger guys. I know I became more honest about my beliefs the older I got.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:53 PM
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I generally follow catch and release as well. I especially like spiders as they kill other insects so I don't have to. Mosquitoes can go extinct, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:51 PM
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Yes. Just do what you feel like. I can only take so much shoulder crying from a platonic female friend, albeit it was never happened often anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:48 PM
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It's either a potential go signal or simply an attention grab. Go for it if you're inclined (though I wouldn't).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:45 PM
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Seen this in action so many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:43 PM
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Roast beef, the thick meaty kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:42 PM
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Sure, then you and I have quite a bit in common. I too work in data and analytics, and of course you can never discount intuition and business acumen/experience. That being said, it's also wrong to assume all/most guys in this sub are using stats simply as a cope. It's valid evidence that supports a valid argument. I can think of many successful business decisions made on the basis of the numbers and against intuition that were spectacular successes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:38 PM
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Some do, some don't. The ones that care do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:26 PM
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People do research all the time to build evidence to support some observed phenomena in nature (i.e. a hypothesis). Many research areas are controversial due to conflicting studies in that field. I agree men bring up the stat as a way to justify their primal disgust (I know I do). I think however, you downplay the role of science when it comes to decision making. If science showed me that women with high n were not less able to pair bond and such, I would certainly reconsider my preference for l…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:25 PM
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Yes, I think he meant "time+putting the other person..." as indications you loved them in addition to sexually (i.e. enjoyed their company/personality enough to want to spend time, valued them as a person to be able to put them at the top).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:14 PM
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Neutral to slightly negative. Assertive without undermining me constantly/embarassing me is fine, although I prefer to lead. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:11 PM
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Low effort shot at pussy, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:10 PM
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I think it's a mix. Muscularity may be more cultural, whereas fitness (i.e. not being fat, and healthy) and height are likely evolutionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:07 PM
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I never denied not liking it personally, and the stats support the sentiment. You're using anecdotal evidence to support your claims, which is fine and all, but that allows me to do the same. In my experience, the girls I've grown up with that started dating early/dating a lot of different guys, were the ones that also exhibited undesirable traits mentioned above (i.e. manipulativeness, tendency to dump easily, dislike children, etc.). At the end of the day everyone is going to have to make a de…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:01 PM
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Your knowledge of TRP is lacking. TRP never claimed to be new. The entire premise is that it's locker room talk that has been passed on from father to son, teammates and brothers. Now all condensed into a single online forum. The analogy of the Matrix is fitting, precisely because it's not new. The "lie" covered the old truth from before the influence of Disney and 3rd wave feminism. The red pill is the reintroduction of that truth to the mainstream. Like how the Matrix is a lie that covered the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 07:55 PM
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Agreed, it's a difference of opinion, like how I won't try and convince you to care about n count either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 07:53 PM
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Sexual attraction is a prerequisite for romantic love. In both sexes. I wouldn't call it sad (though some idealists might), simply nature. Accept it and be at peace with the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 07:48 PM
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As others have said, learn to reject/accept it or change your behavior and become standoff-ish. The male counterpart to your plight is the #metoo movement, where many males in the corporate world (especially those in power) are actively avoiding 1:1 situations with women or taking on female proteges. In that example, they have picked the second option and learned to avoid the issue entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 07:45 PM
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Sure, but it left mainstream when Disney and 3rd wave feminism came into media power. Nobody is saying TRP is new, it's simply a channel for re-popularizing truths that were repressed after the turn of the 21st century in Westen society.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 07:41 PM
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They find out, indirectly if necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 07:36 PM
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Which is exactly a valid reason to use n count as a potential barometer for these undesirable traits. I've never met a mentally healthy girl with like a 20+ body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 07:36 PM
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The average man has much lower n count than the average woman. The top men have much higher n counts than the average man and top women. It's the 80/20 statistic in action.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 07:35 PM
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No, less. Because it's much more difficult for men to get sex as it is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 07:30 PM
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As is most of red pill, now. Absolutely not the case 10-20 years ago. Hence our point exactly, TRP works.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 07:28 PM
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You make yourself look really stupid when you resort to ad homs against people you've never met.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 07:26 PM
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The problem is, n-count is related to all those other "great LTR" traits because they value n-count in a woman like that. High n-count = likely to be poorer mother, disloyal partner, "bad"(values) person. Whereas having a low n-count is related to the opposite. Think if it like considering dating a felon. Do you think a felon would have "good" fatherly/partner/employee traits as well (i.e being a good person, being a strong father, nurturer etc.)?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 07:22 PM
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"if going to the gym regularly and exercising were effective at improving quality of life, health, and preventing all the major terminal chronic diseases (CVD, diabetes, cancer, etc.) Then it would be the greatest product ever and mainstreamed." Yet from my experience as a personal tainer and long time gym enthusiast, this is not the case. Although, like TRP, it is gaining popularity in the mainstream precisely because it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 07:13 PM
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Correlation is not causation agreed. But I'm going to take the safer road and look for someone that doesn't rank highly on this correlation, after, it's my precious life and time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 07:09 PM
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A house that's been viewed by 20 people and not bought, makes me question the value of the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 07:07 PM
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Here's the thing. In my experience nearly all guys care. But I'm sure some "don't" or at claim not to care. Either way high n count women can find these guys to marry. It's very difficult for a woman to accept that it does matter if she's been taught by Western culture that it doesn't matter. It may never bite her in the ass, or it may. I don't have (or even know of any) stats on that. All I can say is that personally, I care, and it has led me to reject a few interested girls. These girls are i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 07:06 PM
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I'm satisfied, I understand them better now and life goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 06:51 PM
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Count me out, I think you're alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 06:49 PM
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Yes, RP's first and foremost piece of advice is that it's your own goddamn fault and you need to take ownership of your own masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 06:36 PM
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Good job dodging the question, I'm still willing to hear a logical response from you. No pressure 😊.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 06:32 PM
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Yes this is true, but he would've eventually found out anyways no?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 04:34 PM
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I take ownership and do what I can/want. If I want to outsource it and pay someone using the money I earned, then I do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 04:20 PM
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🤣🤣🤣 that's hilarious dude. Honestly if he could get hard fuck it. He's already willing to take the risk with a cheap hooker anyways right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 04:16 PM
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You gotta tell me this story, what was the catfish exactly? Was she just a completely different person, or was it a case of goods not as advertised?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 04:13 PM
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Can't say I relate to this, when girls tell me their sexcapdes I usually just laugh because I find it so funny. Like when a friend of mine told me that she felt like such a ho after having unprotected sex with this guy after the condom broke, I just laughed and said something a long the lines of "nah I'd do the same, except I wouldn't have used a condom in the first place. I fucking hate condoms.".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 04:05 PM
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Jesus you're bitter. Do I sound like an incel to you? Maybe I should assume you're a multi-coloured hair feminist landwhale in return? Legalization of prostitution has nothing to do with self respect, people should be free to choose what they want to do with their bodies. Isn't that what abortions are all about anyways?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 03:57 PM
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It was a disrespect that made me laugh out loud
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 03:56 PM
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So she shouldn't have slept with him is what you're saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 03:53 PM
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It's joke, I thought it was a sick burn
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 02:51 AM
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Male relatives I get sure, but these friends that can't handle it just seems off to me. I've been good friends with high n count women that had no problems sharing with me their sexual experiences. Why would I care about a platonic friend's body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 12:15 AM
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I'm curious though, why lie/dodge answering at all? Why not just filter out the men that care/make a big deal of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 12:12 AM
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Yeah it definitely goes both ways. Some guys care, some guys don't. It's the same for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 12:10 AM
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Thanks for the tip, I'll definitely check out that blog. I've heard good things about the wand, which is why I wanted to try it out first.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 09:52 PM
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Yeah I'm trying to get my gf comfortable with the idea of toys. I want to get a magic wand asap, and then slowly work up to bondage stuff (nothing crazy, just restraints and stuff).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 09:35 PM
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Not a woman, but I had friend who wanted a relationship with this Chad FWB. Chad rejected her with something along the lines of wanting to marry and have kids with a proper woman (she was high n). As a friend I felt really bad for her, I think she was quite sad about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 09:32 PM
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2 hours of foreplay, how does that work? My fingers get tired after 20 minutes of rubbing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 09:25 PM
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Life's tough, those are rookie numbers I agree. That being said, I won't claim to be some 20 approach a night dude either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 09:13 PM
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Have my upboat brother
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 09:06 PM
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My pecs and arms. GF always keeping me grounded says I need bigger shoulders though. Time to blast some test I guess :).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 09:02 PM
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Damn you killed her dude 😔😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 09:00 PM
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Great response.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 08:50 PM
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I can sympathize, but I'd rather the truth over ignorance any day. And over time, my happiness has returned to normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 08:48 PM
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TRP is definitely too extreme in a lot of cases. Marriage is a bad deal (financially) yes, but that's moreso to do with laws/sexism than women, for example. I like MRP's approach better to LTR/marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 08:47 PM
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I've noticed this as well. Disney rom-com bumbling beta Bob is no longer considered canon for real life male female dynamics. RP truths are seeping into the mainstream more and more every year..
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 08:43 PM
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Honestly maybe it's been too long since my RP "awakening" but it just isn't that big of a deal for me. I don't long for BP days, it's a dog eat dog world in every sense of the phrase and women are no different. Maybe people like us are the exception rather than the rule, I'll never know for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 08:38 PM
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She mentioned first/only dates as well, don't understand your assumption here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 03:01 PM
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I wouldn't sell sex for money even if I were female. I have too much self respect for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 02:49 PM
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Guys that care will find out somehow before committing to, or very early in, a relationship. Guys that don't care will also probably find out at some point, but due to natural conversation as opposed to concerted effort. What is you mean by "know the difference" here? Are you referring to a man's inability to tell n count just by looking?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 02:45 PM
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I date for compatibility/attraction. Unfortunately high N-count lowers both of those qualities in women for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 04:28 AM
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Yes this is me, I tell myself that every year as I'm 26 this year 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 02:01 AM
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It's not just about being fat/fit. What about finances? Wealth/assets? Ability to support a family? Mature mentality (whatever that means, subjective to a degree)? As females age past their mid 20s and are looking to have children, they're much more concerned about the finances/stability as well as all the other qualities. That suddenly makes the early 30s guys with their shit together a lot more attractive than the mid 20s dudes still in grad school or entry level job. The early 20s guys I was …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 10:53 PM
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Not talking about marriage, I'm talking about late 20s/early 30s single dudes with good jobs, body, and general life maturity. There are also (albeit less) younger, 20s males with the same qualities, I guess those are what FDS would call "HVM".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 09:07 PM
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😂 Damn I literally did this at 22 and met my gf of 3 years at 23.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 08:46 PM
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Yes, you're right. It's just that older men typically have their shit together (financially/maturity) moreso than younger men. And I'm talking about younger women. Men hit the wall as well, not like most 45 year old single ladies are chasing 60+ dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 08:24 PM
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People envy what they don't/can't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 06:13 PM
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Men would prefer younger, women older.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 06:11 PM
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I'm biased in that I have a tattoo, so I find them sexy. However, I would definitely consider multiple tattoos a yellow flag when meeting a new girl (I know, the hypocrisy!!1).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 06:10 PM
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It's not just pessimism, it's facts and stats. I'm an optimist and even I understand the financial risks with marriage. Marriage rates are on the decline for a reason. Until our sexist court systems and antiquated divorce laws are changed, marriage will continue to be a bigger financial/emotional (i.e. custody) risk for men on average than women. People would do well to take the experiences of those older than them into account when making life changing decisions like these.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 03:05 PM
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He's got a point, it you're living in the west and make significantly more than your fiancee, you're at risk. Not to say you shouldn't do it - just understand the risks are real. I plan on getting married as well as I desire children, however, I am fully aware of the risk I am taking to do so (Of course, not like my future wife isn't taking any risks either, as no one wants to be divorced and a single mother). It helps that she makes comparable income to me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 03:01 PM
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My apologies then, I interpreted your response as that you don't give a fuck about spreading the pandemic and thus don't adhere to safety practices (i.e. distancing, masks, group sizes, etc.). There are way too many idiots doing that so pardon me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 02:49 PM
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Sure bud. This pandemic has made me more grateful than ever that I understand science, and that I don't live in America or the EU.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 02:46 PM
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It's not dying, it's the permanent lung damage/scarring I'm more afraid of.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 04:55 AM
1

Tons of recorded instances of permanent lung damage in recovered cases. You feeling lucky?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 02:53 AM
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I'm extremely healthy at 26 as well. If you're serious about your views, people like YOU are the reason this pandemic hasn't gotten better quicker yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 02:52 AM
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Hope you're staying safe during covid buddy. I'd personally be too scared to bang randos rn.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 02:48 AM
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What do you mean? I lose interest unless the girl is actively seeking me. Doesn't matter how many orbiters she has.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 10:37 PM
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😂🤣. Hope you're having a great day!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 05:29 PM
4

Incels are celibate. Buying pussy is a legitimate way for rich men to satisfy their needs without risking their assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 04:19 PM
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Was guilty, but I got better. Leaving dirty clothes around isn't good.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 04:17 PM
2

I can't imagine, as an adult, not caring about how my parents feel about my life choices or how my actions would make my parents upset/sad/etc. I suppose not everyone has the privilege of having a great relationship with their parents though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 05:17 AM
1

You're good at evading and throwing ad homs, anyone ever tell you that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 05:01 AM
1

What do repercussions have to do with anything? The issue is a man's honor/shame from having a ho daughter. I'm Canadian, as is my gf. What colour is your hair?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 04:08 AM
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It's not about money though
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 04:04 AM
1

I'll answer your question when you answer mine?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 03:54 AM
1

I have the perfect answer for you. You need a MTF trans child!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 03:18 AM
1

Something I'll never understand really. If I can't come up with a good rebuttal I'd rather say nothing at all than make myself look a fool and resort to ad hom..
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 03:09 AM
1

What repercussions does a person have for fucking an animal? Or cousin?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 03:02 AM
1

You're a fucking KING my dude, fuck da hayters
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 02:57 AM
3

Personal insults are always classy in debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 02:57 AM
0

Everytime I go to a music festival/rave. All of these girls are someone's daughter 🤣.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 02:51 AM
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Agreed. If I'm not #1/being chased I'm not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 02:32 AM
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Depends on the person. For someone like myself and my gf, who are more traditional, being a ho is almost as bad, if not as bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 02:24 AM
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We share housework/cleaning although she generally does more. Don't have kids yet but will be 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 11:12 PM
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If my daughter has slept with 15 men by the time she's 22, it's really not that different for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 09:12 PM
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Yup. But hey if you're ugly, being rich will stop you from being an incel at least!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 08:05 PM
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Yes that is true. There are men who don't care. But how many men are okay with their daughters doing porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 08:03 PM
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BBs still get sex.. right? Just look at rich Saudis shitting on instagram "models" 😝😏.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 08:02 PM
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My gf is a prime example of this though, and we have a very happy relationship. I find it audacious that you're telling me that I'm taking advantage of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 07:37 PM
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That is exactly what I'm talking about. And of course the outcome of my children would be part of my self worth, what parent would want their children to grow up to be failures? It would be my responsibility as a father to give my daughter the best possible conditions to not become a ho when she grows up. And that's all I can do, nothing is guaranteed which is why it's such a big fear for most fathers. No man wants to wife up a slut, just like how no father wants their daughter to become a strip…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 07:35 PM
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Yes, I agree. The problem is western society as a whole, sexual liberation and all. I wouldn't teach my son to indiscriminately sleep with as many women as possible, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 07:31 PM
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Nice honest answer right here. Money and status help, though only if you're okay becoming a BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 07:23 PM
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I never said that once, I would appreciate it if you didn't put words in my mouth or make assumptions about a person you've never met before. I wouldn't really want my son to be a fuck boy either, but I would want him to have the skills and abilities to attract women he wants. Once I got better with women, I could've exercised my ability to become a ho, but I didn't really. The high of wooing and winning a woman over fell off pretty quickly for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 07:19 PM
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Mine, and I don't think happy/healthy girls sleep around. Not from my experience anyways. The high n count women always had some deeper issue (daddy issues, loss, depression, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 07:16 PM
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I disagree about the 35+ thing, there are many quality male celebrities/rich executives that aren't married by 35. Even amongst young male professionals making 6 figures there's a trend to hold out on marriage till later.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 07:14 PM
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It goes both ways. There's also men who embrace masculinity, ownership and being the protector/provider while maintaining his wife's attraction/sex. These are high value dudes that rightfully expect those things from his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 07:11 PM
1

Hey now that's a bit too much even for me. I'm okay with 7-9 times a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 07:08 PM
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Agree on this one, prime example is my gf. Girls like this exist, and once you've experienced it as a guy you can never go back to having to "earn" a girl's affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 06:56 PM
2

It's not about stigma, it's about pride and personal integrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 06:51 PM
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Much rather incel son, which is changeable, than ho daughter, which is forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 06:49 PM
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I would love to have a daughter. It's just that raising a daughter comes with so much more responsibility and risk than a son. Every father's worst fear is his daughter growing up into a ho.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 04:11 PM
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France and Germany, literally a nation of cuckholded men 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 04:09 PM
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I would honestly be a man, life is harder in the west, but I think the rewards are greater if you succeed. Also I don't ever want to pop out kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 04:06 PM
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It's "toxic" because of the language used and the fact that it doesn't fit the feminist narrative. However, it is very effective at producing results. But don't let the secret out, not everyone can be a winner ;).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 02:39 AM
1

I do enjoy duck as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 05:02 PM
0

Sounds delicious, I want that calf for breakfast
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 03:18 PM
2

This is true, it goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 07:36 AM
2

I work in analytics/data science. It's pretty much the same thing. AI is a broad term for many things, ML is a tool used in AI. As for ML, the L really depends on the ML task at hand. If you're using labelled data and working on a supervised task, then the machine definitely "learns" via the model it produces in its predictions. In an unsupervised problem, say clustering, the machine still "learns" various clusterings of data based on the parameters the human sets (i.e number of clusters, distan…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 11:02 PM
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The first AI algorithm was developed in 1956, it was called the Logic Theorist and was created to mimic the problem solving skills of a human. Geoffrey Hinton, one of the pioneers of Artificial Neural Networks, completed his PhD thesis in AI in '78. AI as a concept is much less complex than people think. Depending on the application of the AI, it's supporting Machine Learning is often nothing more than complex statistical modelling processes. Supervised ML is quite literally complex statistical …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 10:18 PM
1

Not having autism, that hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 07:52 PM
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The 20%/80% number comes from a number of OLD studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 06:59 PM
1

Maybe I haven't sifted through enough of the crap, in my RP reading days I only saw dudes committed to self improvement. Especially those in the MRP sub, where the #1 rule taught is that it's all your own fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 06:56 PM
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Please correct me if I'm wrong here: so what you're saying is that men gravitate towards RP because it's an excuse (i.e. "women are the way they are") and relieves them of personal fault in their failures. Anyone that knows RP knows this is the complete opposite of the truth. RP explains "the way women are" but challenges men to take ownership, and blames men entirely for their own mistakes. If anyone is gravitating towards RP as an excuse and not working on themselves, then yes, they are not us…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 05:12 PM
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Yeah I agree. Although I consider myself red, I don't agree with some of the extreme views TRP sometimes takes (i.e. that ALL women cheat/will cheat. There are attractive women capable of agency and self control just like how there are attractive men capable of the same thing). I understand that a lot of the hyperbole on both sides comes from ignorance and bad experiences, so I can sympathize. And yes, I doubt that views will ever be moderate/egalitarian in the majority, as most content is creat…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 04:56 PM
1

Does a fish know how to teach a fisherman?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 04:50 PM
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People like you set a great example and I hope you inspire many women to be like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 04:47 PM
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I think this is the only female response I've seen in this thread that is as unbiased and accurate as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 04:42 PM
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RP content is probably censored by all the big search engines.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 04:36 PM
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I think one of the most important RP concepts, and one that should be taught earlier rather than later, is that attraction is non-negotiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 04:34 PM
1

Empirical data collected over years of observation of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 04:33 PM
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AWALT and AMALT are both valid heuristic approaches to intergender dynamics. Keyword: heuristic, not dogma.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 04:30 PM
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That can't be further from the truth though, and makes me wonder if you've even bothered to go on the subreddit in the first place. RP is all about self improvement and ownership. RP doesn't blame women for anything, it teaches men the nature of women and that it's all your own damn fault for not being attractive. I really can't say for sure how many RP guys are 'rolling in puss', but it wasn't a problem for my friends and I.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 04:28 PM
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Terrorist organization, that's a yikes from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 04:21 PM
1

Yeah the blatant double standard is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 04:20 PM
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I find MRP to be a great resource for men in committed LTRs or marriage. The DB sub does confirm a lot of RP ideas, and from what I remember, was actually a feeder sub for a lot of MRP folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 04:19 PM
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Agreed. Red pill isn't new or revolutionary, like how AI was invented in the 50s yet everyone thinks it's this cutting edge new thing. RP concepts have been thrown around in locker rooms, bars, and boys' clubs for centuries. Entire cultures still hold RP beliefs. My own GF is an RPW even though she's never been on any of the pill subreddits.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 04:14 PM
2

Textbook advice, great to hear it verbalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 07:11 PM
2

Small loan of one million dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 05:40 PM
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Unlocking the lock refers to sex here. It's easy for a woman to get sex, hence why she is a shitty lock if she lets any man have sex with her. It's hard for a man to get sex, hence why he is a master key is he can have sex with many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 04:14 PM
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Sex and commitment are two different things though, who cares why the chick wants to get with you when you can get your dick wet?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 03:55 PM
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The lock here isn't a woman's orgasm, it's her allowing the man to have sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 03:51 PM
2

Have ever been friends with any of these folk?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 03:36 PM
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STDs and pregnancy risk are big ones for me. I fucking hate condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 03:34 PM
0

but in general red pillers are a misogynistic bunch who view women as a means to an end not as romantic partners. This mindset has never made anyone worse with women though.. as a matter of fact, most guys I've known that slept with a lot of women have this exact mindset. Anyone can make any claim about someone they've never met or seen from an online community. My life experience with several friends that went through RP together is that it undoubtedly makes one more successful with women. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 03:11 PM
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Nice cock bro
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 03:44 PM
1

Are you a man or a woman though?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 02:30 PM
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I wouldn't want to know everything about a woman's life on first meet either, or man for that matter. In an LTR relationship though, I couldn't care less about my GF being mysterious. It's a neutral trait for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 02:27 PM
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From my experience I find women value this trait much more than men in the opposite sex. No man I've talked to has brought up mysteriousness as a positive personality trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 02:20 PM
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This a million times. Are you me? You articulated my thoughts perfectly. I'm not an asshole or nice to women by default, I'm whatever the fuck I want to be. Usually for hotter women, I tend to be more cold/indifferent because I know they've been getting tons of male attention their entire lives. It's actually a huge turn off for me, especially if the woman has an attitude that shows she's aware of this. This has almost always resulted in a positive response from the woman, even if she doesn't fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 02:14 PM
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Sure, if you put it that way. In reality this does happen wherein being kind can be taken as a sign of weakness, so obviously you adjust as needed like any normal person with social tact. However, in many situations I could give less fucks about whatever "rewards" people "get" from being kind/unkind. Like I said before, I tend to be kind/nice because I feel like it. I'm not doing it for some "reward", there's no covert contracts delusion going on in my head. If someone disrespects me for my kind…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 04:44 PM
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You're living a fairytale dream that "it won't be me.". The fact is the odds are stacked heavily against you. Now the question is, do ya feel lucky, punk?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 03:44 PM
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Being nice does not improve your odds of sex. The relationship is non-existent/insignificant actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 03:07 PM
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The problem with "nice guys" is the expectation of a reward for being nice. I've been universally told that I'm a "nice", "good" and "trustworthy" guy by people I know. I'm this way because I want to be, its just how I was raised. On the other hand, I don't ever expect niceness/favors/sex in return for my behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 03:01 PM
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Speak for yourself man, I'm hard as diamond.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 02:53 PM
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I'm sorry this happened to you, that bitch is fucking disgusting. I have seen similar behavior myself and frankly it disgusts me, especially when the guy is a nice, amicable dude who's usually just minding their own business. Sounds to me like she's pissed off you never pay her any attention or something..
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 02:29 PM
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Your comment is a painful reminder that all raves were cancelled this year, with no end in sight.. Anyways, my observations have been similar, looks don't really generate disgust/disrespect as they do apathy. It's only when someone's personality stands out (either negatively or positively) that there is any reaction from the girls. Although my experiences may be limited as I've never been on the receiving end of this alleged ill-treatment towards conventionally ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 02:13 PM
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From my very middle-upper class upbringing and experience in my teens and twenties, socioeconomic class does not correlate with tendency to ride the CC. Rich or poor, casual dick is being rode everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 02:00 PM
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Exactly my implication.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 05:04 PM
1

Relax brother. Thousands of young men have gone through what you're going through right now. The pain of truth can take a long time to heal. Unfortunately, there's no easy way around it, you must go through it yourself in order to emerge a better man. First of all, the fact that you are in a position where you're still attracting girls is a great thing. This gives you an opportunity to overcome your personal issues quicker. While I would personally stay away from single mothers, there's no reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 04:25 PM
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"The men I met from my mid-20s onwards seemed to delight in wooing and dumping me. I suppose if I'd been born in another era, men would have had to commit to marriage before they had sex, which might have meant I'd have got the children I yearned for." Straight from the horse's mouth...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 02:41 PM
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He's saying the opposite, that men's looks are just as important as women's.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 03:32 PM
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Yes, in theory a civil union or common-law relationship is ideal from a financial perspective. Unfortunately, in most of the Western world, these types of relationships are essentially proxy marriages in how similar their financial consequences are. As we move towards a society wherein the earning potential of women matches that of men, we need to seriously rethink the financial penalties of divorce/seperation. If divorces were as financially straightforward as run-of-the-mill breakups, its decl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 11:36 PM
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I think you hit the nail on the head here. If you head over to the married RP sub, the first piece of advice given to newcomers is that it's all your (the man's) fault. Men cannot expect a wife that would like to willingly submit/surrender to them if they themselves are not a walking bastion of masculinity! It's equally ludicrous as as 35 year old overweight, unfeminine and bitchy woman expecting a tall, rich, handsome, and no baggage man to choose them for an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 07:25 PM
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This is one matter I'm not an expert on, but from some of my readings in the past the way I understood it is that marriage in the past was a system designed to allow a stable society to flourish. Here's a decent summary I found from an old post (link): " Western Lifelong Bilaterally Monogamous Marriage 1.0 (which is what we are focusing on here) is sexual communism. Both parties sacrifice their optimal strategy in return for a safety net, and a stable society. " Men must sacrifice their urge to …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 06:41 PM
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Never seen any meaningful LTR come out of a dating app.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 06:08 PM
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Yes, men are just as guilty of AMALT are women of AWALT. For example, unless you're some extreme outlier, on average, men will universally have higher libido than women (AMALT). Conversely, women on average are universally more emotional than men (AWALT). Anyone that assigns extreme negative aspects of AMALT/AWALT (i.e. Rape/Branch Swinging) to 100% of one sex has missed the point of these heuristics completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 05:39 PM
2

This. Money is probably the worst predictor of a fulfilling marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 05:28 PM
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This is correct. TRP's stance on marriage is that it's a horrible deal for men, and should only ever be considered if a man desires children. Even in that circumstance, it's still not ideal and thus TRP heavily advises against marriage at all costs. Now if family/divorce laws were to change, that view may may also change..
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 05:11 PM
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Agree & Amplify.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 07:23 AM
1

Agreed, although I also like STFU, AA and flipping the script in passing shit tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 05:47 AM
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We have a winner folks!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 07:43 PM
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Of course, hence why I think the anger is misdirected. However, what may have been blatantly obvious to you in your experiences with women may not be the same as others, even many other outgoing, socially smart and well-adjusted men. I knew many guys growing up that were very socially adept in all ways except that of women. Calling these men 'delusional' is too narrow minded a view coming from someone who understood these things earlier or more organically than they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 05:21 PM
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Once you internalize RP enough, it's very hard to distinguish a learned man from a natural. Keep at it brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 03:26 PM
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There are controlled studies (RCT even) that support TRP concepts though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 03:24 PM
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Yes, the "truth" I was referring to isn't a blanket statement for how ALL women (or men) think 100% of the time, but in my experience, it applies to most, to at least some degree. I think AWALT is taken to a hyperbole by RPers when AMALT is just as valid (again, not all women, or men, exhibit all AWALT/AMALT behaviors/thoughts, nor to the same degree. We are all different. There is enough similarity though that it has become a decent heuristic for me in navigating intergender dynamics). As a you…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 03:17 PM
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Yes, if you can sift past the hate and misogyny, it's a gold mine of good, actionable advice. In my experience, the male friends that went through the RP journey with me have no anger towards women. Once you accept the truth about women (and men, it goes both ways), anger becomes understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 02:30 PM
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Good point, and I agree with you. It's never black and white; if I followed TRP to a T my current relationship would not have lasted as long as it has. TRP is and should be used as toolbox: take what is useful (for the given situation) and leave the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 02:16 PM
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There's a lot of anger from young men who've been rudely awakened to female nature on there. This is not to defend or legitimize the hate, but to inspire understanding. My own experience is similar to yours - observations on reality and RP were just too damn close to ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 01:56 PM
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And they themselves likewise aren't laughed out the door by RPers?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 01:53 PM
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How would you suggest men operate when presented with a new woman then, should he rely on his past experiences which worked, or try something completely random/something that failed repeatedly on the past? Anecdotally what worked for me from TRP worked on nearly all girls afterwards ..
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 01:50 PM
1

The Matrix 4: Tik Tok Wokening
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 05:33 AM
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I dunno, I found that meme hilarious 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 02:27 AM
-1

I think 5 in face was the lowest for me. At least she was 7 in body though (DDDDs 😂). My first LTR was actually probably only a 6-7, looking back now that the rose tinted glasses are off.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 02:22 AM
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Bang - 5+ LTR/Marriage - 7.5+
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 12:41 AM
1

I'm tired of arguing with you, your view on what TRP is very black and white which is a real shame. There are studies that support, compliment or contradict RP views just like how there are studies that support or contradict anything, like global warming or cardiovascular disease risk factors. I can only experiment and apply the various takeaways from each study; ultimately whatever ends up working for me and making me happy is what I'll believe in, just as it is for you. In science there is nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 12:31 AM
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I agree - everything in moderation. TRP was a positive influence on my life because it helped me make sense of everything conventional logic could not - women. The reactionary hate can go overboard and is what gives TRP a bad rep.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 10:57 PM
1

I mean, I could present you with a ton of scientific studies (gold standard, RCTs) supporting red pill beliefs, like the ones floating around here recently about n-count. This is why I was averse to answering your question regarding what I considered "red pilled". To be honest, I thought your question was with respect to someone who rejected all TRP beliefs with the exception of the lift/groom thing. I can only speak for myself, what's "red pill" to me might be run of the mill common sense to so…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 10:44 PM
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The thing is, the very fact that TRP is a toolbox contradicts your grievance about TRP being dogmatic. There are many things TRP gets wrong and thus I reject them. That doesn't mean I don't agree with a large part of it's philosophy though. To your point about confirmation bias, that's present everywhere, across all beliefs systems and empirical science. I could say the same thing about your beliefs borne from your experiences as well. Of course, I'm open minded to even better 'beliefs', should …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 10:23 PM
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I don't claim to consider anyone "red pilled" without themselves identifying that way to me; how stupid is it for me to put a label on someone that might've never even heard of TRP to begin with? Sure I get that you personally find it "cringey", you're entitled to an opinion, after all. For me, this "reality of how all women think" has made me more successful in women, life and general happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 10:01 PM
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That's a straw man argument, there's no reason I can't pick and choose what is a useful "tool" (i.e. action) and a useful "revelation" (i.e. observation about the world). I've never considered things like lifting and grooming the exclusive domain of being "red", not understanding where this idea is coming from either. TRP is a package of a lot of things you can find elsewhere on the internet/in locker room discussions. What is a revelation to me may be common sense or something you were taught g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 09:47 PM
1

Ah well. More action than I ever got in grade 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 09:42 PM
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There's a bucket full of nuance being missed here. It's not simply the self improvement, but the revelation to the true nature of women which most young men are clueless about. Things like dual mating strategy, watching what a girl does over what she says, validation/attention seeking, attraction etc.. the list goes on. Revelations like this are rarely taught to young men as they grow up. Revelations that level the playing field for men, and provide explanation as to the why things like lifting,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 09:36 PM
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So did you smash?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 09:11 PM
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The difference between "creepy" and "cute/romantic/endearing" is just a masculine jawline away. As men we bear the burden of approaching women, and thus any man, even the hottest male model, has almost certainly been considered "creepy" by at least one woman at one time in his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 08:34 PM
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I'm on the old side of my 20s (26 😝). Yes, things are definitely not black and white as some people may suggest otherwise. Despite being extroverted and much more experienced with the opposite sex than my gf, I actually much prefer her to be more "boring" with low/no n count than extroverted/adventurous with high n count. I've had my share of the fun party girls who are probably every bit as cool as the girls you know, but it never crossed my mind to consider those girls for an LTR. To each thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 08:21 PM
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Pretty close to yours actually, as I'm high on the extroversion scale myself. These girls I'm referring to are young (early 20s), attractive (fit/gym), social (parties, clubbing, raves, hikes, whatever), and adventurous (travelling, etc). My own girlfriend is much more of an introvert but we do all these "cool" activities together. How do I know they're low N? Many of them have been with my friends since HS. Many were friends with each other since HS, and can vouch for each other. My experience …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 07:35 PM
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Right, because your comment above bears those qualifications, right? What sort of descriptions are you looking for? Characteristics that qualify these girls as "cool"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 07:29 PM
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It certainly has become more widespread recently. A lot of what you wrote (which echoes much of RP thought) isn't intuitive nor taught to many young men, at least not in my experience growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 07:24 PM
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Of course, except it wasn't branded that until recently. Many were sold on the BP fantasy of JBY (just be yourself), of which rules 1 and 2 contradict.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 07:14 PM
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It's incredible to see some core concepts of RP seep back into mainstream and re-branded as "blue pill" here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 07:10 PM
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For many, rules 1 and 2 are actually RP concepts that society did not teach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 07:08 PM
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The essence of TRP isn't a religious doctrine; it's a toolbox. I read theory, I observe reality, I apply and experiment, I observe again, and so forth. My experiences and what works for me may not be the same as your experiences or what works for you. However, a significant portion of what I found on TRP was replicable in both real life and science, hence why I align myself with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 07:05 PM
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I pop the hardest boners after a big meal, fr.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:17 PM
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Yeah, I would thank my lucky stars if I'm able to travel next summer. Have been disconnected from most of physical society since March. Just recently got back into home lifting, but I really should've bought the gym equipment right when the pandemic hit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 04:32 PM
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You got one thing right at least, my partner and I do intend to take classical dance lessons together after covid 👯👯.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 03:34 PM
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All the cool, socially adjusted girls you're actually attracted to (i.e. the AW in AWALT) are out living their best lives and having sex with attractive guys. Most of my high N-count friends have settled down with their "alpha bucks" after their ride on the CC though. We'll just have to disagree here as my experiences don't align with this. I know many cool girls that are low n, most of my friends are dating one such girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 02:58 PM
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Hence why married men must strive to be a combination of Alpha and Beta. Using sex as relationship currency is a sign of a regressing man or declining relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 02:52 PM
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Zoomers like you hit me with the "Ok boomer", I hit them with my car. Not even a boomer by the way, I'm in my mid twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 02:49 PM
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I wouldn't lose any respect - it's just casual sex after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 02:40 PM
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That's the main selling point of TRP. I can easily condense any advanced level post secondary degree/graduate degree into simple combinations of online material (for free). Does that mean there is no value to a curated program? Lost men fooled by Disney/society/Hollywood are everywhere, and TRP is like a one stop shop for helping men regain or develop masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 02:36 PM
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Men that can't do any better have no right to complain. Either don't play or get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 02:18 PM
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Good luck on the journey brother. Seems like you are already well on your way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 02:14 PM
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You son of a gun, it's all clear to me now. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 02:09 PM
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And what, pray tell, was that picture bruh?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 02:04 PM
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As often as men here say that it's easy to be top 20% today because the bar has been set so low, it's also kinda easy to be a top 20% wife for the same reason. Can't argue with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 02:01 PM
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Bragging about being married - that's a good one 😂!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 01:59 PM
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Imagine shaming other people for their interests and hobbies. What's wrong with enjoying video games?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 01:58 PM
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IF, like many other weight loss strategies, is predicated on a low calorie diet. As such, it's not necessary to fast for that long to achieve results. Simple calorie counting and low carb/sugar intake will result in consistent, steady weight loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 01:34 PM
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I'll just leave this here: https://www.vice.com/en/article/bm9w7v/why-are-so-many-women-searching-for-ultra-violent-porn. From my experience, women enjoy at least some degree of roughness (being restrained, squeezing, choking, etc) during sex. Non judgemental discussion with female friends revea similar preferences. Of course, YMMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 01:26 PM
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Absolutely, and men wouldn't be subject to their wives' whim for financial ruin either, in that scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 07:00 AM
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Right, but you would be given alimony for several years (am not too familiar with how much exactly, but i usually see numbers in the 10+ years range), buying you time to get an education and back into the workforce.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 06:58 AM
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I'm not assigning blame to anything, and in the situation I described (wherein you became a homemaker/SAHM) you would certainly not be paying your husband a cent. This was my initial argument to your point about being at the financial whim of your husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 06:54 AM
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Thank you, although I am red pilled I lean towards optimism in LTRs, maybe I'll get bitten in the ass one day but it's a necessary risk for anyone looking for a long, fulfilling relationship. I think holding out for virgins is an extreme case, most guys are happy with low n-count (say single digits) as a realistic measure of a non-slut. Perhaps being a full virgin is a liability, I haven't seen it myself but I can definitely see some guys preferring at least a little experience on their women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 06:52 AM
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I'm Canadian as well. I think you're missing the point about divorce rape, wherein IF you were to become a housewife and lose said opportunities, should you and your husband get divorced, not only would you be getting alimony (and our country is very generous to the financially dependent party on that), but also child support should you have any children. You would never be destroyed financially "on a whim" as you described.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 06:40 AM
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I'm providing a counterexample to your anecdote for the sake of discussion. But funny you should ask - that guy is me with my GF of 3.5 years. I wasn't a virgin at the time either. She made me wait ~6 months and it was worth every second.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 06:35 AM
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My experience as a man growing up in Western society has been the complete opposite. In all cases it's double digit n-count = auto dismissal for LTR/marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 06:15 AM
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You have to understand where the anger and resulting misogyny is coming from. Most of the guys coming to TRP were rudely awakened to the true nature of women due to how our culture and media portrayed male-female relationships. The unattractive beta male does NOT get the smoking hot bombshell, and being "nice" and "chivalrous" only works with physical attraction as a baseline (and even then, its only neutral points at best). Most guys, myself included, were sold on stereotypical BP bullshit and …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:31 AM
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I've always liked the mantra of "TRP is a toolbox, take what is useful and leave what is not." mentality of the sub. There was never anything forced down your throat and differing viewpoints were debated rather than shot down or blocked. The results spoke for themselves and validated my trust in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:21 AM
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There's a theory out there that men and women develop a "type" at a young age. I'm fairly certain I developed mine sometime in early high school (around the same age, 14), as most women I find attractive tend to have the same body type and proportions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:00 AM
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And these "self-proclaimed" red pilled guys have not fully grasped the concept of AWALT or internalized RP to its true understanding. TheJim66 puts it perfectly; virgins are as slave to biological instincts and attraction as high n-count women, but its much easier for a man to keep her loyalty. Any man that thinks he can relax and become fat/lazy/beta after getting the virgin is doomed to a miserable awakening in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 04:49 AM
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My experience as a man growing up in Western society, having been part of numerous male social circles (sports teams, gym groups, university social circles, work groups, etc.), is the complete opposite. People in these groups were from varying cultures and backgrounds, although the majority of them were born and raised in generations of Western culture. The consensus is that high n-count (and this is variable depending on the dude, but generally anything double digit is considered high) women ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 04:33 AM
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Hello, ex-lurker and RP-aligned dude here. I agree with you in that the pedestalization of virgins/low n-count women contradicts the idea of AWALT. I believe many of the posters pedestalizing these women are also young men still in the throes of anger and have not fully understood the concept of AWALT. AWALT does not discriminate based the number of partners that a woman has had. She is still susceptible to hypergamy, tingles, branch swinging and the like. Despite the fact that my (virgin before…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 04:20 AM
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