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Sounds like this need to be reworked. I like the general idea of not disclosing a victim's sexual history, because it means that juries will be less likely to say shit like, "They're slutty, so it wasn't rape," or, "This couple had sex before this, so it wasn't rape." On the other hand, the correspondence after the alleged rape between the alleged victim and the alleged rapist sounds like potentially incredibly crucial evidence. They should find a way to protect people from unfair biases while s…
/r/PussyPassDenied22/03/16 06:21 AM
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Oh, I wasn't aware that was a real thing in place.
/r/PussyPassDenied22/03/16 04:53 AM
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It is important to be appropriately critical and ask for proof in a courtroom and respect due-process. You don't want an innocent person to go to prison. But because these practices are in place (as they should be) the whole process could be incredibly difficult for a victim. That's what I'm saying. Not that the prosecution shouldn't have to shoulder the burden of proof, but that expecting someone who's done nothing wrong to go through all that purely out of altruism isn't fair. Why should they …
/r/PussyPassDenied21/03/16 06:48 PM
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I disagree with your last sentence and the idea that pressing charges is the only way to "handle the situation properly". It's horrible enough that they went through the rape, now you're saying that they should feel obligated to go through the additional turmoil of telling and retelling their story, getting accused of being a liar, having "questionable" decisions they've made get brought up and judged, and all very likely just to watch their rapist go free. While I admire people who are willing …
/r/PussyPassDenied21/03/16 05:30 PM
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There are lots of reasons rape victims might not want to go to the people you mentioned. Going to the police or a lawyer to press charges can be in itself a lengthy and terrible experience. The victim's name gets dragged through the mud in a trial that ultimately results in no conviction. Going to a doctor for tests can be incredibly expensive and scary in an of itself. So I don't think it's fair that a rape victim "should" be expected to go to these people when they've already been through some…
/r/PussyPassDenied21/03/16 04:06 PM
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It's not a contest. These are both horrible things that can destroy people's lives.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/03/16 11:42 AM
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Why not give both parties the benefit of the doubt? Unless you have a legitimate reason to believe one thing or another, don't jump to the conclusion that the alleged victim is a liar, but also don't jump to the conclusion that the alleged rapist is a rapist. If someone tells you they've been raped or that they've been falsely accused of rape, unless you're in a courtroom, you should just focus on being caring and supportive for what they might have been through.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/03/16 11:40 AM
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I have to wonder if all of you people who are condemning these women for questioning the validity of the man's claim aren't the same people who feel the need to question the validity of every woman who ever says she's been raped. Tell me, please, why is it acceptable to say, "How do we know she was raped and isn't just lying bitch?" when a woman claims she was raped, but unacceptable to say the exact same thing when a guy claims to have been raped?
/r/MensRights12/08/11 02:34 PM
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Lastly, I was raped by a woman when I was a child, and my parents and school counselors laughed it off when i told them about it. That is seriously fucked up. People with that little compassion should not be either parents or counselors. I hope you eventually found people who properly acknowledged what happened to you. Rape is a horrendous crime and it's terrible that you had to deal with society's ignorance in addition to being victimized by that woman.
/r/MensRights02/07/11 01:53 PM
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This. I've heard there are even police line-ups where they only have one person of the race described by the victim. Pretty much setting people up to send other innocent people to jail. Sickening.
/r/MensRights18/06/11 05:40 AM
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It's a shame that some idiots who claim to be feminists but are actually just sexist bitches make the rest of us look bad. I'd like to see less of an Us vs. Them mentality on both sides of the gender line, and more working together for good causes like protecting people from rape and false rape accusations.
/r/MensRights16/06/11 04:39 PM
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Women Don't Lie About Rape. 2. False Rape Accusations are a valid tool in a "male-dominated" society. 3. False Rape Accusers should never be held responsible because the "patriarchy" is actually to blame for what they did. Well, that's seriously messed up. In any case, I'm not denying that there are some feminists out there who are fucked in the head. But you could use that same sort of logic to argue that Men's Rights advocates are "rape apologists" merely because some members of the movement a…
/r/MensRights16/06/11 04:16 PM
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You assume that just because the feminist movement doesn't make protecting victims of false rape accusations their primary goal that they endorse false rape accusations? In case you weren't aware, different movements have different focuses. You post makes about as much sense as the following: "No. Animal rights advocates heart pedophilia. They have a long history of doing so. There is a very easy way for you to prove me wrong: 1. Show examples of activism where animal rights groups decry pedophi…
/r/MensRights16/06/11 03:02 PM
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I find the implication that feminists in general approve of false rape claims offensive. Yeah, there may be some feminists who are that sick, but those are fucked-up individuals who don't speak for the movement anymore than rape apologists speak for the Men's Rights movement.
/r/MensRights16/06/11 07:01 AM
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Your opinion of what should and shouldn't be considered traumatic does little to nothing to negate the reality of the psychological harm inflicted on the victims. Torture, mutilation, rape...these are all things that can lead to long-term trauma, even if society is of the opinion that this shouldn't be the result. Furthermore, if you really believe that loss of virginity, unavoidable pregnancy, and paternal uncertainty are key factors in what makes rape so horrible, explain to me why the victims…
/r/MensRights14/06/11 07:33 AM
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But it just questions why rape is so much worse then other crimes and why rape should warrant loss of due process and presumption of innocence. I'm not sure anyone here believes that due process should ever be negated, whatever the crime is. Personally, I think that rape is one of the worst crimes imaginable, but I still think that the justice system should be fair and leave the burden of the proof with the prosecution, even if that means some rapists go free. But equating that principal to the …
/r/MensRights14/06/11 07:18 AM
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Something I wrote in another thread recently: I see nothing wrong with giving women helpful advice for ways to avoid rape if 1) it's done at an appropriate time in an appropriate manner and 2) the advice is actually useful. For example, if a woman is about to go to a party and you tell her, "Remember, never leave your drink alone, and it might be a good idea for you to carry some mace with you if you're going to walk home alone," her response is probably not going to be, "OMG, are you saying I d…
/r/MensRights11/06/11 06:14 AM
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I think it's terrible how few people seem to acknowledge that women are capable of rape as well. But to me that means we should broaden our attempts to spread awareness about rape to potential female rapists as well.
/r/MensRights10/06/11 05:37 PM
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much more relevant than the person who likened the shame of being raped (which you can't tell just by looking at someone) to the shame of having one's nose cut off. Uh...that was also me. Anyways... Believe me, I agree that it can be appropriate to emphasize that what happened to the victim is not their fault. It's very sad that some women blame themselves for what happened. And it's not fair that someone should feel less self-worth because of something they had no control over. However, you see…
/r/MensRights10/06/11 05:34 PM
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If this is an effective way of preventing rapes, then I'm all for it. But this type of education should be given to both men and women, as both genders can be capable of committing these crimes.
/r/MensRights10/06/11 12:20 PM
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(I'm just going to keep repeating this until people start wakeing up about how nasty this 'rape culture' shit is.) Seems like the wrong conclusion to draw from your statistics. Don't these findings show that rape culture is more relevant and worse than most people realize?
/r/MensRights10/06/11 12:19 PM
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Maybe you wrote this before you read my edit, so I'll post it again here: "EDIT: This is actually a good point to counter your "rape is sex" argument. For one thing, there are a lot a number of forms of rape that don't require any sexual arousal on the part of the criminal (forcefully inserting an object into someone else, forcing people to perform sexual acts on each other, etc.) as well as forms of torture that can hold the same level of shame that a woman might feel being raped (force-feeding…
/r/MensRights10/06/11 05:33 AM
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Here's an analogy for you. You are sitting at a table, and are told that you will not be allowed to get down until you eat your favorite dessert. That if you want to be able to leave, you will eat that dessert. That I don't care what you want right now, you're eating that dessert. If you don't eat it, you'll be punished by being fired from your job. Forcing anyone to insert something into their body that they don't wish to is wrong. If you feel obligated to do something to your body that you don…
/r/MensRights10/06/11 04:41 AM
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Um...I think you meant to respond to girlwriteswhat.
/r/MensRights09/06/11 09:47 PM
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Of course it's not fair for a woman to feel ashamed if she's the victim of an attack. After all, she herself didn't do anything wrong. But feelings of shame are still natural in many circumstances. Say, for example, a woman is walking along and someone decides to cut her nose off. She's rushed to the hospital and lives, but now has to go through the rest of her life without her nose. Is it her fault she lost her nose? No, of course not. But the shame she feels whenever someone looks at her may n…
/r/MensRights09/06/11 07:14 PM
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Of course the way the media represents various things are going to have an impact on the way some people perceive them. But it's also important to note that this is not the only factor at work and that some people have certain desires and emotional reactions based on what's important to them, regardless of what society says they should and shouldn't feel. You mention gender roles. Well, yes, the media does contribute to our general perspective of what a woman or a man should or shouldn't be. But…
/r/MensRights09/06/11 05:14 PM
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80% of women experience only as much violence as was necessary for a rapist to commit his crime. Where are you getting this statistic? And what makes you think that sadistic pleasure isn't also a factor in non-violent rapes? Feminist discourse on rape tells us that it is never about sex, only about power and domination, and that its roots are in the patriarchal oppression of women. Outside of /r/MensRights, I don't think I've ever heard anything about the claim that rape is rooted in the patriar…
/r/MensRights09/06/11 04:26 PM
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Frankly, I don't understand the whole "rape is always about power" mentality. Given the amount of rapes that happens it seems like there are probably a whole number of reasons it happens. Sometimes the rapist may not even realize they're raping in the first place. However, claiming that "rape is always about sex," strikes me as just as ignorant. There are a whole number of reasons people can rape. They can rape for sex. They can rape for the feeling of control. They can rape because they think t…
/r/MensRights09/06/11 03:09 PM
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I see nothing wrong with giving women helpful advice for ways to avoid rape if 1) it's done at an appropriate time in an appropriate manner and 2) the advice is actually useful. For example, if a woman is about to go to a party and you tell her, "Remember, never leave your drink alone, and it might be a good idea for you to carry some mace with you if you're going to walk home alone," her response is probably not going to be, "OMG, are you saying I deserved to be raped if I don't follow your adv…
/r/MensRights09/06/11 07:50 AM
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The image of sexual purity, the clinging to Victorian ideals concerning women's value, is WHY victims feel the degree of psychological trauma they do. You can't honestly think that's the only factor. What about men who get raped by women? Is there some sort of Victorian precedent that makes a man feel he needs to maintain his purity? Quite the opposite, I'd say. Rather, it seems that in modern society, the more women a man has sex with, the higher his social rank. So by your logic, since a victi…
/r/MensRights09/06/11 07:36 AM
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Society plays a role in both cases, and it's unfortunate that some women fear being beaten or scorned because they don't adhere to societal standards, just as it's terrible that some men may refrain from having sex because of the potential that a false accusation might be filed against them. The situations are different, though, in the level of consequences. Abstaining from sex until you find someone who's willing to let you film them may result in you having less or no sex. That sucks, but I wo…
/r/MensRights29/05/11 11:30 PM
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Hm...that makes it trickier. I would say the key difference between this and the secretly-filming-sex scenario, is that in this case a woman will potentially face significant repercussion if they reveal the precautions they wish to take before the act and then refuses the act if the husband doesn't agree to her conditions. However, if a man reveals that they're videotaping sex before the act and then refuses the act when a woman doesn't agree to his conditions, the worst that will probably happe…
/r/MensRights29/05/11 03:52 PM
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Shouldn't they admit they don't want children (or more children than they already have) rather than continue to stay married under false pretenses? Yes, they should. The husbands deserve to have that information. It can be a pretty important part of a marriage and secretly taking measures to either consume or avoid consuming children without the other person's knowledge is wrong.
/r/MensRights28/05/11 11:48 PM
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Sure. I believe that the door swings both ways. It's not specifically about men respecting women or women respecting men. It's about people, regardless of their gender, respecting the rights of other individuals. Different situations may have different nuances, but ultimately I think that if you don't have any sort of legal backing (such as a warrant) it should be your obligation as a person to respect the boundaries of others. I'll admit, it is a sad state of affairs when people legitimately fe…
/r/MensRights28/05/11 11:01 PM
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Okay, it's not unreasonable to consider that we might not be getting the whole story here. But if you're going to make the assumption that the article is inaccurate, don't claim that you have the real story it's going to be based purely on speculation.
/r/MensRights28/05/11 02:41 PM
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To some people it probably wouldn't be an issue. But to others the idea of there being a film showing them having sex could be extremely upsetting. Furthermore, you have no guarantee that the recording isn't going to somehow fall into the wrong hands. Not to mention, there are probably a lot of guys out there who would become curious and rewatch the tapes themselves. (Maybe not the guys here, but with the sort of things I've been reading, I don't know....) That's also an invasion of the woman's …
/r/MensRights28/05/11 03:28 AM
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If you're so concerned that things might to south there's a very easy solution. Don't sleep with someone unless they're willing to let you film it. You seem to be under the delusion that as soon as you're in the bedroom with a girl, you have to have sex with her. Well, guess what? If she's not willing to agree to your conditions, YOU CAN SAY NO. You seem to think that the worst thing that can happen if a woman refuses to let you film sex is that she's file false rape charges. Well, if you don't …
/r/MensRights28/05/11 01:43 AM
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Under those conditions, it perfectly understandable that men protect themselves with surreptitious recording. If you're that concerned about a woman charging you falsely with rape, the logical solution would be not to have sex with her unless she agrees to let you record it. Remember, if she doesn't agree to the conditions you lay out to have sex in, you have every right to refuse sex and walk away. And if you lay out conditions that she's uncomfortable with (such as video taping the encounter),…
/r/MensRights27/05/11 07:33 PM
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Maybe if the judge gave some plausible reason for saying that, I might buy it. But from what I read, there's nothing to actually support that claim.
/r/MensRights27/05/11 07:18 PM
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You could use the same justification to illegally wiretap someone's phone by saying, "I'm only wiretapping the phone to protect against terrorist activity, so they'll never find out about it unless they're plotting to do something illegal." Also, who's to say that your archive of tapes is secure? What if somebody else finds them and watches them?
/r/MensRights27/05/11 03:58 PM
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Yes but you don't account for how women behave. they have been conditioned over centuries to lower their sexual..literally there are women out there who would explode with desire if they were truly free. As it is, putting up another barrier in the form of a question about filming an encounter is going to go down like a cold, wet fish. So basically what you're saying is, women shouldn't be allowed to make informed decisions, because those informed decisions are going to hinder their intrinsic sex…
/r/MensRights27/05/11 09:21 AM
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Fine. Have fun in prison when a woman presses charges against you for filming her without her consent. Hopefully getting laid will be worth her humiliation and your time in jail.
/r/MensRights27/05/11 09:03 AM
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I have no problem with an encounter between consenting individuals where a woman's privacy is reduced as long as the woman understands that these are the conditions. And if women would baulk at that offer, then isn't that their right? Isn't it reasonable to allow both parties to agree to the conditions on which a sexual encounter takes place? For example, if a woman says she's on birth control and really isn't, wouldn't it be wrong of her to have kept the truth from you? Isn't it your right to u…
/r/MensRights27/05/11 08:54 AM
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Could you just tell me why you feel it's okay not to disclose the information the woman? The way I see it, if you consider video taping someone is a necessary condition to have sex with them, then the worst that's going to happen to you if they refuse to let you film them will simple be that...won't have sex with them. Then you'll have protected yourself while respecting the woman's right to privacy. Everybody wins.
/r/MensRights27/05/11 08:50 AM
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So does that mean you're a supporter of the TSA? After all, what's more important: not having your balls groped or being assured you won't be blown up in a terrorist attack? Are you a supporter of torture? After all, what's more important: one person being abused, or thousands of people being killed? Are you a supporter of locking up men who have merely been accused of rape? After all, what's more important: one man held in prison without reasonable cause, or potentially dozens of other women ge…
/r/MensRights27/05/11 08:30 AM
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Well, I guess I don't see how it's foolish or reckless either. I mean...it's not something I'd do, but to each their own. Different people are made happy by different things, and as long as you don't mistreat anyone else, I don't see how doing what makes you happy is something to be ashamed of.
/r/MensRights27/05/11 07:52 AM
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So you're going to punish all women for what some women do? Isn't that the exactly kind of fucked-up mentality that got us into this mess in the first place? There are probably women out there justifying immoral laws by saying something along the lines of: "If men don't want to be locked up without evidence, they need to stop raping women. Men caused this situation. I don't care if men hate the solution." Not all men should be punished because some of them commit crimes and not all women should …
/r/MensRights27/05/11 07:49 AM
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I live in the United States. Personally I believe that if all parties are willing (and capable of reasonably making these choices), it's none of our business what they do. If they're enjoying themselves, more power to them. They should be able to do what they want with their own bodies.
/r/MensRights27/05/11 07:37 AM
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Thanks for the citation. Yes, if the government passes an unjust law, people should speak out against it. But the way you're going about it is wrong. All you're doing here is punishing potentially innocent women who probably had nothing to do with the passing of the law. There are plenty of ways to stand up to the government that doesn't involve invading the privacy of civilians. Film cops, leak documents, engage in civil disobedience, demand change...whatever. Just don't take it out on people w…
/r/MensRights27/05/11 07:30 AM
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If all parties have agreed to the terms of a sexual encounter, I don't see how it's anybody's business but theirs. Different people enjoy different things. As long as nobody's being made to do something they don't want to, I fail to see why other people should consider a sexual encounter immoral just because it doesn't adhere to their own standards of appropriate sexual behavior.
/r/MensRights27/05/11 07:20 AM
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Well, at least you're consistent. While I do believe that it can be wise to take precautions, I don't believe that what might be perceived as recklessness in these situations make the victims in any way responsible for what's happened to them. If a man and a woman spend time alone together, there is almost always the potential for a rape or a false rape charge to be the result. But that doesn't mean we should live our entire lives looking over our shoulders. By that logic, every boyfriend and gi…
/r/MensRights27/05/11 07:16 AM
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Exactly what law are you referring to? Yeah, the government does a lot of shitty stuff...but what does that have to do with this case? What law is so corrupt that it would require filming someone having sex without their knowledge?
/r/MensRights27/05/11 06:57 AM
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Is it really all that inconceivable that a woman might just actually want to have sex with a bunch of guys at once? I hardly think every time a guy is propositioned with this sort of thing it's going to result in a false rape accusation. I mean, a lot of guys like the idea of being with a number of women at once, right? Why should it be any different when the genders are reversed?
/r/MensRights27/05/11 06:48 AM
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See, for me, this is a perfect example of why these men shouldn't be blamed. Just as I believe that women shouldn't be blamed if they get raped, I don't believe that innocent men should be blamed for being falsely accused of rape. The fault lies with the person who made the choice to attempt to ruin another person's life. Yes, taking precautions can be smart, but a lack of precautions doesn't justify blaming the victim, whether that's a victim of rape or a false accusation.
/r/MensRights27/05/11 06:43 AM
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Where are you getting this? Nothing in the article implied this at all. In fact, it stated that she was the instigator.
/r/MensRights27/05/11 06:39 AM
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What did the men do wrong? They had sex with a willing participant.
/r/MensRights27/05/11 06:38 AM
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I'm sorry, but...unjust laws? Accusing innocent men of rape is a horrible crime and when an innocent man goes to jail because of it the system has failed. And if it can be proved that the accuser was lying, they should be the one to go to prison. But this is true in any wrongful conviction - assault, rape, murder...whatever...and, sadly, the reason people are wrongfully sent to jail is because of corrupt lawyers and incompetent juries. I'm all in favor of educating juries about reasonable doubt …
/r/MensRights27/05/11 06:34 AM
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That's completely inappropriate and should be illegal. If someone's that worried about a false rape accusation, then they can just simply hold out on having sex until they find someone who's willing to film them. Otherwise it's a potentially horrible violation of the woman's privacy.
/r/MensRights27/05/11 05:38 AM
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The judge heard more than we're hearing, and apparently "mental health issues" played a part; wouldn't be unreasonable to start laying down blame when it comes to light that this girl isn't all right in the head. So by that same logic, if a guy with mental health issues rapes a girl, it's really the girl's fault for being alone with him? After all, the guy's the real victim because he's unstable, right? If you're going to excuse one crime because of "mental health issues", excuse all the others.…
/r/MensRights27/05/11 04:19 AM
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How were their actions scummy? She wanted it...they wanted it...if she hadn't turned out to be a psycho bitch everyone would have gone home happy.
/r/MensRights27/05/11 04:09 AM
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Wow...blame the victims much? It's not their fault she turned out to be nuts. The responsibility is on her and her alone.
/r/MensRights27/05/11 04:08 AM
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Only if both parties consent to the filming. You should never do that to someone without their approval. But if they do consent, yes, it may be a good measure to take to help protect yourself.
/r/MensRights27/05/11 04:06 AM
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Do you honestly think that the women you were talked to who confided in you that they were raped are a representative sample of the population? Maybe they are, but seeing as 1) you seem to feel its appropriate to guilt women into pressing charges against their attackers, 2) you imply partial victim-blame by saying that women are "setting themselves up for problems", 3) many women who still face PTSD probably don't want to talk about it, and 4) the women who have killed themselves can't exactly t…
/r/MensRights26/05/11 09:49 PM
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Please, tell me where you're getting the information that it's "not that traumatic for most women." For that matter, where are you getting the idea that it's a common perception that all men are responsible for rape? I don't think I've met anyone in my entire life that's had this delusion. Can you really point to anyone besides a crazy extremist blogger who actually believes this sort of stuff? Finally, instead of inventing a "lesser evil" how about we just strive for a solution that doesn't inv…
/r/MensRights26/05/11 07:36 AM
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Some of the only things I could imagine that would be comparable to rape in terms of cruelty would be other forms of torture, mutilation, or having a loved one murdered. When something is so traumatic that you would much rather die than have it happen to you...that the very memory of it can drive you to suicide...well...it's hard to imagine there are too many things out there more cruel than that. In any case, you're drawing a false dichotomy when you say that "I'd much rather make a rape victim…
/r/MensRights26/05/11 05:51 AM
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TIL being creepy is illegal.
/r/MensRights25/05/11 01:51 PM
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Well, that was your choice and it was a good thing for you to do. There are things each one of us can do to make the world a better place - donating to charity, volunteering for worthy causes, committing acts of civil disobedience, etc. However, would you consider it everybody's moral obligation to do these things? Because going up to a random person and telling them they're morally obligated to give up all their worldly goods to charity is potentially asking a hell of a lot less than telling a …
/r/MensRights24/05/11 10:52 PM
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Probably depends on the victim. But I imagine for many pressing rape charges would be a lot more emotionally damaging. Otherwise, why don't more people file charges against people who rape them?
/r/MensRights24/05/11 08:23 PM
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The author does a nice job of getting the audience on his side at the start of the article by taking a position I think many people can agree with (myself included) - that placing the sole responsibility for preventing rapes on men is absurd and that speaking out against sexist humor is not somehow going to end rape. Much as I dislike rape jokes, the blame for the rapes does not lie with those who just make jokes. They blame lies on those who actually rape. But then the author provides a point o…
/r/MensRights24/05/11 05:51 PM
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Wow...I'm a woman who believes that rape is one of the single worst imaginable things you can do to another person and...well, according to this list, I'm a rape-supporter too. In fact, according to this list, a shit load of people who have actually been victims of rape apparently condone it. On behalf of rational women...no, on behalf of rational people everywhere, let me just say. Fuck. Her. EDIT: I wrote something to her. Here it is: I believe that rape is one of the most horrific crimes in e…
/r/MensRights20/05/11 03:54 AM
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Just because human natured is flawed doesn't mean we can't take a stand and try to make it better. Becoming part of the problem isn't going to turn things around. And I highly doubt women will outlaw sexist humor. Freedom of speech is very important to a lot of people of both genders and not all women are going to want to apply a double-standard. And if your solution to dealing with sexism is to simply "ignore women", don't you think that encourages a rather "us-vs.-them" mentality? Why can't me…
/r/MensRights23/03/11 03:28 PM
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I could support that if it were a direct retaliation. For example, say a woman made an incredibly sexist post on reddit. I wouldn't have a problem with some guy retaliating with an equally sexist response. But I don't think it's fair to take out your frustrations on the entire gender. I'm sure many women have been victims of sexism, but that doesn't make it appropriate for them to be hostile towards all men just because some men were rude to them first. I know in this case these are just jokes, …
/r/MensRights23/03/11 03:11 PM
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Well, if you don't have a problem with jokes made about men on TV then it makes sense you'd defend jokes against women as well. If you have a problem with sexist jokes on TV, though, just remember - two wrongs don't make a right. And, to be fair, I hear that shows like Sex and the City don't exactly paint women in a good light either. As far as "What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander" goes, again, this only works if you consider these same sorts of jokes against men appropriate. But,…
/r/MensRights23/03/11 02:37 PM
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Alright. Sorry if I made incorrect assumptions.
/r/MensRights23/03/11 04:43 AM
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After reading the responses here, I want to apologize if I made an incorrect assumption that this sort of humor would offend you had it been about males. If you guys can take this type of humor in stride, regardless of the gender, it was wrong for me to imply that you held a double-standard about these sorts of things. Sorry.
/r/MensRights23/03/11 04:40 AM
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Okay...you have a point there.
/r/MensRights23/03/11 04:30 AM
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Okay, fair enough.
/r/MensRights23/03/11 04:27 AM
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I remember there was some talk show where the women said something about that a man's wife had "trained him well" and seeing someone here take offense to that. Although I suppose that was referring to a real-life situation, while the jokes in the thread I linked to were just hypotheticals, not to be taken seriously. I've also had someone get really angry when I pointed out a poster with this basic message: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__MzFldT5sxk/TNRZ9Xn-YEI/AAAAAAAAAVY/7aASsMp30KU/s1600/perfect+ma…
/r/MensRights23/03/11 04:26 AM
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Last post was submitted a month ago. Not exactly a hub of any sort of activity, much less drama. :P
/r/MensRights23/03/11 01:46 AM
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As long as you're consistent, that's cool. I'm a firm believer in men's rights and there definitely are some issues that should be addressed which generally aren't (such as domestic violence). It just bothers me that some of the people here would probably be very offended if those same sorts of jokes were made about men and not about women. You don't sound like you fall into that category, though, so that's good. :)
/r/MensRights23/03/11 01:41 AM
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No point. Bringing politics into a stand-up club is about as welcome as bringing a skunk to a wedding reception. That's valid, but I can't help suspecting that if there were an identicle thread where the genders were reversed, a lot of people here would have no problem bringing politics into a stand-up club. We do, every evening on what passes for entertainment on TV. 3) What's sauce for the goose is good for the gander. Not sure I understand what you mean by these....
/r/MensRights22/03/11 10:17 PM
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Thank you. Get some good rest. :)
/r/MensRights17/03/11 05:37 AM
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I wrote out a couple of responses to this...then deleted them. But I'm not good at letting things go, so...here I go again. Okay...so I'm sure a lot of bad shit has been done in the name of feminism. While I don't consider this to be a reflection of true feminism, let's say for the sake or argument that these sexist women who claim to be feminists really are feminists. Doesn't it seem a little closed-minded to judge everyone who considers themselves to be a feminist by the actions of some, when …
/r/MensRights17/03/11 04:40 AM
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sigh This is pointless. Obviously nothing I can change will view your corrupted perception of feminism. But if you really care about men's rights, I would highly suggest not demonizing people who may actually share your ideals. I'm willing you bet that you and I see a lot of things the same, but apparently because I call myself a feminist, you think I'm that makes you better than me. You're antagonistic attitude is doing nothing to help your cause.
/r/MensRights13/03/11 10:24 PM
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Oh, of course! Only YOU have the true definition of a feminist. No, not only me. Webster has the true definition of feminism. You're just making wrongful assumptions based on what people who claim to be feminists say that feminism is. Therefore a doormat. My dad is most certainly not a doormat. He and my mother treat each other as equals. No, that would make you a MRA. I am an MRA. And a feminist. They're the same thing. Seriously, don't you see what you're doing? How do you feel when you tell s…
/r/MensRights13/03/11 05:04 PM
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It sounds like maybe you've had some bad experiences with sexist women claiming to be feminists. But don't let their ignorance and bigotry corrupt the word itself. I'm a feminist. My dad's a feminist. And if you believe in equal rights for men and women, you're a feminist too.
/r/MensRights13/03/11 06:20 AM
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fem·i·nism [fem-uh-niz-uhm] –noun 1. the doctrine advocating social, political, and all other rights of women equal to those of men. How does this not describe /r/mensrights?
/r/MensRights12/03/11 11:59 AM
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Just because some women corrupt the word by misusing it to promote their sexist agenda doesn't change the true meaning of the word. Those who support true feminism and those who support men's rights are the same people.
/r/MensRights12/03/11 07:05 AM
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Isn't /mensrights all about equal treatment of men and women? That's the definition of feminism.
/r/MensRights12/03/11 02:07 AM
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So...you go to a subreddit dedicated to gender equality and post a song about why you criticize a particular gender? Men's rights isn't about bashing women. It's about true feminism: the desire that men and woman be treated as equals.
/r/MensRights11/03/11 04:38 PM
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He shouldn't be urinating in public, but it's hardly a sex crime.
/r/MensRights11/03/11 04:30 PM
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So by your logic, if somebody is punched in the face they shouldn't complain about it because we live in a world where a lot of people get punched in the face? You can't justify an immoral action merely because of the existence of that immorality.
/r/MensRights14/02/11 04:27 PM
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Yeah, that's incredibly fucked up. If she ever gets raped somebody needs to ask her, "Okay, now, what did we learn?"
/r/MensRights14/02/11 04:17 PM
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This is another case where I think you guys are being a bit too sensitive. If someone had said that a woman was "well-trained" I wouldn't have been horribly offended by that either. They were just joking around.
/r/MensRights10/02/11 08:21 PM
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Not if it were fan-made....
/r/MensRights07/02/11 04:37 PM
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Oh, for crying out loud. It's symbolic. They could have shown a female baby and given the same message. Lighten up.
/r/MensRights07/02/11 04:25 PM
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Oh, for crying out loud. It's symbolic. They could have shown a female baby and given the same message. Lighten up.
/r/MensRights07/02/11 04:23 PM
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Okay, I hate hypocrisy just as much as anyone, but this really wasn't all that bad. Yeah, it was uncomfortable and somewhat demeaning, but this is an instance where I actually think you guys need to lighten up. Then again, I'm guessing that a lot of women would think that I'm too accommodating for alleged "sexual harassment" of men towards women, so maybe my standards are just generally different as to what is and isn't appropriate.
/r/MensRights07/02/11 04:20 PM
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Wait...did I miss something? How does this video show that cats are our allies?
/r/MensRights07/02/11 04:12 PM
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I can understand calling them "victims" in the context of, say, a support group or among friends. But in a court of law, that sort of language really does inherently point to a conclusion that has not yet been proven and can potentially unfairly influence a jury. I think this Mr. Franklin was right and that he should extend this logic to all cases, not just rape ones.
/r/MensRights07/02/11 03:57 PM
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I came to this section to post this. You people have gotten into my brain. But, yeah, that ad was really tasteless. I don't see how spousal abuse is funny. EDIT: Does anyone else think it'd be amazing if someone made a shot-for-shot remake of this with the genders flipped?
/r/MensRights07/02/11 03:42 PM
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In the end, it's your choice, but I would strongly advise you to think this through again. I know that you're frustrated and that you want to stand up for yourself, but think about your daughter here. What effect is it going to have on her if you lose your visitation rights? How is she going to feel if she finds out you went to jail about something that's directly related to her? Kids can really blame themselves for this sort of thing. Your situation sucks right now and it may or may not get bet…
/r/MensRights05/02/11 08:49 PM
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Fucked up.
/r/MensRights01/02/11 03:10 PM
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Women like this are sick. I wonder what sorts of things were going through her head when she decided she wanted to try and destroy these men's lives....
/r/MensRights18/01/11 05:21 AM
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Yeah, I don't like it when guys put me on a pedestal. I want people to just see me for who I am.
/r/seduction13/01/11 06:13 AM
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Glad she's facing criminal charges. What a psycho-bitch.
/r/MensRights06/01/11 08:08 AM
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