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I agree that there’s common ground, however one of us is actively involved in Feminism, and I can tell you these are things that are being discussed and fought for. The label is called “toxic masculinity” not because it’s toxic to women, but because it negatively affects the lives of the men who are taught it.
/r/MensRights19/07/25 12:46 AM
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Circumcision should be performed electively once a child is of age to make their own medical decisions. I think no human being should be forced into participating in an entity whose nearly soul purpose is destruction and death. Barring that, women aren’t drafted because of a history of sexism, and that should change. We should really stop teaching men that their success is linked to their value as a person. We should de-stigmatize therapy and other institutions for men and women alike, but espec…
/r/MensRights14/07/25 08:57 PM
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I forgot that wanting to have a legitimate conversation is something that beholds negative consequence. That’s on me, I guess human interaction is actually bad now
/r/MensRights14/07/25 08:46 PM
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Hey, just finished reading it, I’ll look into the sources later bud for now taking OP at face value. Several of the later studies (hmm odd they’re so far down there) do in fact show women at a greater likelihood of being SA’ed. some of which are twice as likely. Here’s a stat for you “Nationwide, 81% of women and 43% of men reported experiencing some form of sexual harassment and/or assault in their lifetime.” https://www.nsvrc.org/resource/facts-behind-metoo-movement-national-study-sexual-haras…
/r/MensRights13/07/25 10:26 PM
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I never said I was here to change minds, I’d argue it’s more about curiousity. I wanted to see if the picture I had of the MRA community was accurate, and ngl it was. I got immediately hatemobbed and downvoted
/r/MensRights13/07/25 10:11 PM
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Different points of view are often mocked. I was called a plant, a femcel, and (derogatorily) a woman as soon as I answered the question calling myself a feminist. Someone made a PSA long before I posted on r/feminism. You’re the one being completely disingenuous. I didn’t take a mocking approach until people started hurling insults my way. If you want to start over and have a pleasant discussion I’m open to that, but I have zero patience for people who demonize those fighting for equal rights a…
/r/MensRights13/07/25 10:09 PM
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Is the evidence in the room with us?
/r/MensRights13/07/25 09:54 PM
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Sure bud, it’s far worse for men. Funny you mentioned SA there. Where’s the justice for women who were “asking for it”? Why do women need to be protected from violence? Why are more men murderers than women? Why did men elect that only other men be conscripted? Seems like the call is coming from inside the house 🤔 Not to minimize what men actually experience at all btw, it just seems these issues are caused by other men. And if you think feminists en masse hate stay at home dads idk how to help …
/r/MensRights13/07/25 09:46 PM
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Uhh because I got hate swarmed! Because you downvoted a person asking questions to oblivion, and I thought the response was funny? I love that you think your some sort of sleuth. Yeah I posted about an anonymous poster on an anonymous app who was saying weird shit. If you’d actually have a dialogue, you’d notice there are 10+ comments I didn’t post on there!
/r/MensRights13/07/25 09:39 PM
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But assuming any feminist trying to talk to you is a plant absolutely is. Kinda gotta read context there bub. It’s whatever, have a great day
/r/MensRights13/07/25 09:36 PM
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Ah so you don’t know what words mean, got it! Go ahead and look up the definition, I’ll be waiting with a smirk on my face
/r/MensRights13/07/25 06:56 PM
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Ah yes, your failure to explain yourself is my fault, or forgot that you can do no wrong! Here’s a hint: you claimed that I was inconsistent. That’s making a claim. The burden of proof is then on you to explain the inconsistency. Failure to do that is on you. It’s ok, just say you’re set in your ways, that you read something I said, made a false assumption, and will die on said hill. That’s fine!
/r/MensRights13/07/25 06:09 PM
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That’s BS. You ignore in the college gap that in the 1970’s women were actively discouraged from attending college, while ignoring that men nowadays aren’t getting turned down from college due to their sex: they’re choosing not to go. Men are the ones doing the murdering, so there’s that. It’s not women killing men it’s majority other men, so that seems to be another area in which men need to talk and improve each other. The suicide rate is due to society in general encouraging a man to be purel…
/r/MensRights13/07/25 06:01 PM
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It’s ok buddy, explain more to me how your algorithm serves you up rage bait. Have a great day, this conversation is so trash, not worth either of our times. You’re gonna assume you’ve seen every leftist meme
/r/MensRights13/07/25 05:53 PM
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I didn’t say it was lighthearted fun, I said that jokes exist and that reading these as serious is absurd. They can also be harmful, but I’m not sure we can agree that jokes can have harm. You’ve still failed to explain the inconsistency.
/r/MensRights13/07/25 05:51 PM
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Where in the world did I imply that?
/r/MensRights13/07/25 05:48 PM
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Yeah man, all men are just so repressed now, suuree. I find it absurd that you haven’t listed a single bit of evidence for your little “men are taught to hate their masculinity” tangent. I thought facts didn’t care about feelings?
/r/MensRights13/07/25 05:47 PM
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I don’t lack consistency. I use r/whoosh because everyone here is acting as if humor doesn’t exist, and that these people actually want to see men fail. It’s literally condoning nothing. Please check a dictionary.
/r/MensRights13/07/25 05:45 PM
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Wrong again, and wow you’re so good about making sweeping accusations! Is this your day job? If not you should go pro. Did I say that ALL intersectionality was race and sexual orientation? No I didn’t, I used them as examples. Really good try though. Don’t bother responding, since I don’t wanna educate you!
/r/MensRights13/07/25 05:43 PM
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I’ve literally never insulted a man on here, idk where you’re getting that. Do you want me to just assume that men are these all-good people who can do no wrong? No? So maybe, just maybe, as a man I can talk about the behavior of men?
/r/MensRights13/07/25 05:39 PM
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White bigots for Trump, amirite!
/r/MensRights13/07/25 05:37 PM
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Literally don’t. Keep huffing that copious though, meanwhile the entire sub is crashing out cause they’re unable to accept there are rational actors on the other side of things.
/r/MensRights13/07/25 05:36 PM
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Identifying the cause of an action isn’t excusing it, that’s absurd. Do police excuse murders, or do they identify motive? Edit: got it, so attempting to empathize with the cause of an action is ignorance, rather than truth-seeking, while sticking your head in the sand is based actually.
/r/MensRights13/07/25 05:32 PM
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Aww poor buddy thinks I care what a little freak says about my masculinity! I’m more masculine in my little toe than you are anywhere. It’s ok, keep overcompensating. What’s feminine about noticing an entire sub crashing out over a difference of opinions? Fellas, is freedom of speech “feminine”
/r/MensRights13/07/25 05:30 PM
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Read my above comment more slowly. I’m a masculine dude, I’ve never once had that threatened. Recognizing that you can do toxic things isn’t throwing the baby out with the bath water, it’s bettering yourself.
/r/MensRights13/07/25 05:27 PM
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Good Christ. Ok so this may come as a shock, but I never claimed feminists comprised half the global population. By your logic, we can make generalizations about all Christian’s based on other Abrahamic religions. Feminism is a broad encompassing term, and by definition only means you believe in equality amongst men and women. That’s the ONLY necessary condition. You can believe literally any other subset of beliefs, and your giant reply seemingly does the thing I accused you of: making a large …
/r/MensRights13/07/25 05:24 PM
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“The fact that you condone this behavior” I literally said I didn’t. I said I could understand it. You literally admit that I said I didn’t think it was good, that’s unequivocally the opposite of condoning it. If you don’t like it, quit interacting with it. Guess what? The algorithm will stop giving you rage bait.
/r/MensRights13/07/25 05:19 PM
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Brother I don’t use TikTok, and I LOVE an anti feminist telling -me- what feminism means. I’m sorry you don’t understand speaking in scopes, but I’m not gonna bring conversations of race into ones explicitly about gender. There’s space for intersectionalism, but bringing in race or sexual orientation when the conversation is about men and women in general is absurd. Here’s an example: This subreddit -in general- is so sensitive they can’t condone anyone having an opinion that isn’t “us men have …
/r/MensRights13/07/25 05:17 PM
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Do you think those are the only men I’ve talked to? Brother for 1. No it’s not and for 2. We do events all the time with alumni, much older than 20. You assume that because I used one example my sample is biased, meanwhile the comment I replied to had the same sampling error.
/r/MensRights13/07/25 05:13 PM
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Lmao Yeahh sure you see right through me, im sure you know my intentions exactly. I’m so sorry I thought I could come get understanding. Literally 0 substance from anyone here, all downvotes and ad homs with the exception of OP.
/r/MensRights13/07/25 05:11 PM
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“This is practically a fact” No bub it’s an opinion. Do you know the difference?
/r/MensRights13/07/25 05:09 PM
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Brother he said they took my balls. Quit trying to take the high road when you’re this biased. I came here for a legit conversation and I’m being downvoted because I… had a difference of opinion? So much for free speech ig
/r/MensRights13/07/25 05:07 PM
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It’s ok, keep feeling like anyone who disagrees with you is part of a conspiracy. Super healthy
/r/MensRights13/07/25 05:06 PM
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Oh wow how shocking that this subreddit has n@zis
/r/MensRights13/07/25 05:04 PM
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It didn’t hurt my feelings, and I’m a guy. I’m also not a r@pist. (Not saying you are ofc) It just means it’s not about me, and I’m also not gonna approach a stranger at the grocery store and have an expectation of them responding to my satisfaction
/r/MensRights13/07/25 12:11 PM
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Bro I literally don’t care, it just seems that by attempting to pin me as a ‘concern troll astroturfer’ and @ing me in a comment you’re fishing for something to get me to stop talking. It’s really coming across like you don’t care at all! Re: “oh boohoo” It’s called setting a boundary, which you don’t seem to understand. I’m sure you don’t care to have a conversation, since you’ve gone to some lengths to discredit me in the comments, and that’s fine. No skin off my back. But I’m not gonna waste …
/r/MensRights13/07/25 11:38 AM
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Again, an astroturf is a targeted marketing campaign. Me replying to comments on 2 posts in this sub isn’t astroturfing, it’s a difference in opinion. Quit trying to get me banned and participate in the discussion, or I’m done replying to you. I have no interest in hostility, only talking with people.
/r/MensRights13/07/25 11:27 AM
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Context: the person I replied to said “r/ask feminists is an echoe chamber and that’s all they do. I replied, asking how what they were doing was any different. Re: your first reply: If all you’re going to do is go “nuh uh!!!!”, I don’t see how this is a helpful dialogue.
/r/MensRights13/07/25 11:26 AM
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Astroturfing would be if I were presenting an information campaign. Please read definitions of buzzwords before you throw them in. I’m not “concern trolling” im participating in discussion. I do think it’s funny that you’re this threatened by another man daring to have a different opinion, and best of luck, can’t wait to see if the mods ban me for a difference of opinion.
/r/MensRights13/07/25 11:23 AM
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RightCantMeme would be more accurate, it would seem. Bro replied in emojis, what is chatGPT down?
/r/MensRights13/07/25 11:21 AM
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For sure!! Trust me, I know there are some insane feminists out there too, lol. I’m glad you’re willing to hear a more rational one out, and trust me when I say there are a lot of people like me out there self-policing far more than we try and police other people. We just unfortunately (much like many MRA’s i assume) get drowned out in all the noise of hate.
/r/MensRights13/07/25 11:19 AM
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A lot of people in general -here specifically some men- don’t really want understanding. They see a term they don’t like and instantly downvote, rather than hearing the person out. I appreciate you reading what I had to say. That’s admirable, truly.
/r/MensRights13/07/25 11:16 AM
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Pt 2 so you don’t have to reply to both since they’re different in substance: It’s super parasocial for you to claim they “need therapy” for making edgy jokes when 1. Maybe they’re already in therapy and 2. Maybe they enjoy edgy humor? Doesn’t make the jokes “right”, but when men have literally had a stranglehold on most job markets, I can understand coping through humor
/r/MensRights13/07/25 11:12 AM
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I mean I think they’re off-color jokes, I certainly wouldn’t make them or laugh. However, I’m also not gonna laugh at “femcel” jokes or “feminazi” jokes either. I just think it’s real weird to be so exhausted seeing… sexist jokes? Like you realize a lot of famous comedians got there because of anti-women humor right?
/r/MensRights13/07/25 11:10 AM
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Bro you got the whole squad laughing. Keep up, we’re having a legitimate conversation. Why you so interested in my genitals? Maybe quit being so sexually repressed, you’ll stop thinking about other men’s genitals so much. It’s ok, some of us don’t need to hate women to feel masculine ;)
/r/MensRights13/07/25 11:08 AM
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“I have no response, so I’m gonna try and insult someone by stating they want equal rights for women and men, and also saying they’re a girl”
/r/MensRights13/07/25 10:59 AM
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I’m a man, and yes a proud feminist. It’s not a plant, it’s called entering an echo chamber to start a dialogue. Does everything have to be a conspiracy by the “woke mind virus?” Maybe just have a human conversation with someone you disagree with? Maybe address my argument instead of attempting to discredit me, seemingly because I dared disagree? Maybe just realize that your sample size is skewed, and that women aren’t just magically these impossible to please, non self reflective people. Edit: …
/r/MensRights13/07/25 10:58 AM
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R/whoosh It’s almost as if jokes exist. I think you’ll be ok if you let women be proud of actually having opportunities, after being sequestered to the kitchen and from speaking in church for generations. It’s almost as if we put a burden of excellence on women for decades, only to get mad when they finally break out of the chains we put them in.
/r/MensRights13/07/25 10:54 AM
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“I find men more…” is a description speaking on gender as a monolith. However, we can chalk that up to skewed sampling/vaguely. It’s absurd that you, as a man, are making claims about the ability of women to self-reflect, all while ignoring the difference in social conditioning. Do you think that men and women in general. are taught to act the exact same way? Do you think their patterns of reflection in general span the same across gender? If not, don’t you think it’s possible that women self-re…
/r/MensRights13/07/25 10:52 AM
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That’s an absurd statement. It seems you feel attacked by women stating that they have problems.
/r/MensRights13/07/25 10:47 AM
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I’m sorry, and where are you right now? In a boys’ club echo chamber? Have some ability to realize you’re doing literally the same thing.
/r/MensRights13/07/25 10:46 AM
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Buddy as a man this is absurd. I was in a fraternity, and I can tell you firsthand that a lot of men (we aren’t a monolith just as women aren’t) have 0 self awareness. It’s “this thing made me mad so I did x”, rather than “I was angry and as a result I allowed myself to x” that’s not accountability, that’s excuse.
/r/MensRights13/07/25 10:45 AM
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I love that you’ve essentially implied that all men are the potential victims of some evil woman out there who -GASP- won’t interact with them outside of a gas station. Here’s a thought (admittedly several): are you trusting of every stranger ever? Would you teach your daughter to walk around like Snow White, blind to a potential risk factor? Are you aware that it’s better to be cautious when meeting people for the first time?
/r/MensRights13/07/25 10:43 AM
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Don’t you feel like you’re making all of feminism -based off of your skewed view of some weirdos on redditors, I might add- into a monolith? As a feminist (also a man), I’ve never once used femicide. Murder is murder, but I’m also not gonna ignore that men murder far more often than women. That doesn’t take away from men who are murdered, even if by a woman. It’s just a fact. We should be building bridges of communication, not sitting in an echo chamber. This includes both the “men are evil” cam…
/r/MensRights13/07/25 10:40 AM
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Speaking from the perspective of a male feminist who is active on Reddit: don’t get your views on feminists from the weirdos of reddit. It’d be similar to coming to this sub with the presumption that MGTOWs are a reflection of all men. To answer your question slightly: you made the feminists’ point for us. Men (as a result of societal normalization and the “boys will be boys” mentality) tend to commit a much larger amount of violent crime specifically. No studious feminist would use this to demo…
/r/MensRights13/07/25 10:35 AM
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