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This is one thing I kind of wonder about, not that it's generally true that women consume anti-men stuff, but it used to be openly accepted when women trash men on legacy media. And back then, no one cared because it was just "women being women" talking about how they don't need no men. I just wonder how much of that culture has passed down onto social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 07:31 AM
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A solid 2 incher cooter punisher and a whole lot of insecurities to burden the woman with. Jokes aside, I think the answer to the question is rather pointless unless it can be generalized because I don't see the point in listing out shit that I'm capable or I think I'm good at unless I'm trying to advertise myself on Reddit of all places, like what significance does that even hold. That being said, the most generally true statement that can be made about what one party could offer assuming the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 01:55 AM
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"I'm doing this for the good of average women, because you won't admit it, I'll have to say it for you. Most of you average women are lonely and suffering just as much as chronically online loser men who has never seen a hint of a grown woman's nipple. If you just come out and admit that you're desperate, mate with us, agree to everything we say and disagree to everything that other women say, we'll finally have the power to defeat the deep female state that's led us into this desperate and deso…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 09:35 AM
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I can second that atleast with my experience. My relationship with my ex, who I still to this day believe is the best person I could ever be with, our relationship had its rocky patches but after while we've made compromises for each other and it really started to seem like nothing but good things to come. Long story short I started dabbling into RP because I was always insecured throughout the relationship and it actually ended up killing the relationship entirely. It offered false sense of sec…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 04:11 AM
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Any women in RP perspective is a paradox, a schrodinger's hoe that is both a hoe and valued woman simultaneously until an observer has observed their state. On one hand, they are valued because they are married and ideally, serving their traditional role as a wife. The same RP folks will then tell you, she's a hoe who's married to some chad only for his money and looks. Don't try to understand RP, it's just cesspool of bitter unhappy folks affirming and validating their negative bias view of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 10:35 PM
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LOL the fact that there is some level of "selection process" whether naturally or cognitively in terms of attraction obviously highlights there has to be some criteria, therefore verbatim a standard existing in attraction itself. I don't see where the "blurring of the line is," and in fact they seem kind of hand to hand with each other. Again, most people don't find random strangers to be attractive unless they have the quality they're looking for whether cognitively or subconsciously. It's kind…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 10:18 PM
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Wouldn't you think that a deal breaker is just a subset of a standard? Because a standard is what defines the deal breaker, if you're not to par of the standard of somebody and then rejected, that is still including of cases like deal breaker. It's still indicative of a standard. But money? For what end? If you’re looking to start a family then money absolutely should be a dealbreaker if you don’t make enough. But if you don’t want a family then it’s delusional for that to be a dealbreaker. If y…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 05:22 AM
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I suppose you don't have any rebuttal for second part? I don't know how you're even just figuring "most people who exercise have probably played video games" LOL, like I dk how that'd even be substantiated. Either way, I think you're missing the point, having the mere "experience" is not actively engaging in a hobby where the person spend a significant portion of their time to it. There is no actually TELLING whether if they have or not in the most general view, hypothetically there's no reason …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 10:27 PM
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There are ways the standards are set to cater to chemistry. Such as certain hobbies are green/red flag, a frequent gymrat who hikes a lot might have a standard that they won't date a gamer. Conversely, a gamer would ideally date a gamer themselves. Not wanting to be with a cheater is also a standard. Having a superficial, financial, or even status standards are also objectively seen as understandable subjective gauge that people have. Even average people tend to have superficial standard, becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 09:31 PM
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These shadowboxing in generality just doesn't do anything for anyone men or women, it actually makes them worse. It allows nothing but the room for people blame and attribute their failures to the most these vague notions that are rarely indicative of their exact failure in that instance. Some men try, some men don't, some women's standards are too high, some aren't and they will never know who they're encountering until they actively are interacting with one. People need to make it a problem wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 10:55 AM
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LOL I guess it's parallel reinforcement to what we know at least in whatever little perspectives I can think of. For example, women being picky or the "stingy gatekeeper" is kind of iterated through evobiology where because pregnancy is costly for women they kinda have to be stingy gatekeepers. Even for other species, males have to do all the wooing shit before they're selected by females. And it isn't uncommon where even now days, variation of such notion is told as a joke by comedians and in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 10:33 AM
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But I don't want to be settled with Q_Q T^T :'( :'( :'( :'(
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:55 AM
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Lol I mean I guess you have small penis equivalent of insult for women like "hotdog in hallway" or whatever 🤣🤣🤣 I'm unsure though what you're exactly trying to address, is it that insecurity is normal? Or that there should be some pardoning understanding toward inexperienced men and/or men who are incompetent in bed? For the former, I mostly agree, though imo insecurities are very likely to go wrong for people who hasn't experienced it before. Not just feeling of insecurity but actually failing …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 08:15 AM
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"Any street interview" meanwhile all those videos put together I doubt the unique individuals comes even close to a fraction of actual population of approximately 175 million women in the US alone. It's very ironic you say men "generally have a more grounded and realistic self-perception" unaware of completely one sided bias you willingly engage in. You're generalizing a population predicated by some fucking youtube videos you've watched just like many other chronically online and bitter PPD man…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 09:17 AM
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Because both are true generally at random precision. It never comes to fruition until one has interacted with an individual and informatively decide that they're either the former or the latter. And both cases are so general that both are understandable. It's like why wouldn't you take their word for it? With an intellectual honesty, anyone would admit that the best and reliable source of a person's thoughts and belief is after all, that exact person, over what other people may speculate. On tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:22 AM
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He's saying women lie and say these shit to save face, he said nothing about your rainbow colored pills. Seems like you're the one talking besides the point. Personality is definitely a factor in dating, and morals are used to gauge someone's character, no ones lying about that. In fact, you can change your personality more than how you look so even if they are lying it's practically applicable, though this is actually besides the point. Attraction is the most obvious quiet part here, a common s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:47 PM
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Damn man, is your flair suppose to be ironic? 🤣🤣🤣 It's common sense, you're not dating someone because they're morally good and therefore deserving of reward by virtue. It's because you find them attractive. Doesn't mean all that other shit don't matter. Even the average chronically lonely man would not settle for a landwhale even if they met all personality criteria, traditional value, faithful especially if she feels she's punching above her weight etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:40 PM
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Why is 34 the cut off when you can always improve unless you're like literally physically incapable in your 60s? People in their 40's get together just fine, 34 certainly isn't "too late."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 08:14 AM
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I believe any general notion doesn't mean it is applied to you and I at every instance. This is why I think "general application of statistic" is kind of unhealthy, it makes people equate their failure to those stats which enables the victim mindset where they think they're afflicted by some vague outer force that's intangible. A healthy way to accept stats as a person who doesn't do stats as a job imo is saying ok whatever I guess that's true somewhere and just going about your day 🤣🤣🤣. With th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 04:02 AM
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It's subjective isn't it? Given that you have a stable job and isn't taking all first dates out to some crazy course of cruise to michelin star restaurant to trip to Paris, some lunch or dinner date 50 bucks isn't too tough. But also there are people who can't always afford that. Nonetheless, it doesn't always have to be some grand display of financial capabilities, simple coffee dates work for some people also.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 02:51 AM
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It's kind of weird, only in that I still live by traditional expectation and I'd just volunteer to pay for first date, but I'm not taking anyone to some michelin star restaurant for a first date. Her explicitly stating it would make me question as to why she's explicitly asserting it. I'd say something like #1 would make it believable if she were to say that. But I'd take it with grain of salt, in that at least in my experience first dates and initial phases are usually filled with exaggerated s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 02:42 AM
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I think it's matter of perspective. If you frame it from convenience, then sure, women do have an advantage. Frame it from risk assessment then men have way less to risk. Generally though convenience I don't think is a real flex point. It's like "hey look at me I have it wayyy easier." Conversely I think managing that same outcome with more challenges I guess has to speak positively about the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 02:42 AM
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Did someone try to swipe on you and their hands bled? Telling I guess 🤣🤣. Its funny when you talk as if with 0 information on who I am LOL. Thx though I'll make sure to uninstall when I come across someone of your stature 👌👌👌
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 07:00 AM
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Nice one, a "no u" 🤣🤣🤣. Yea man think what you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 06:48 AM
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This reads like its written by a hopeless person who's convinced that they're forever alone, so they think other people shouldn't even try 🤣🤣👌 People want something, it may be surprising to you, but the only way to get that IS to try at least a lil. I think that so long as it's not harming others, they should try and there's nothing wrong with trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 06:38 AM
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Obviously not
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 05:24 AM
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Nahh booboo, you the menacing tiger, the dragon, the lion, the eagle, the platypus, you see your prey you pounce for the neck. Out the gate guns blazing cannons firing horns screaming drums rumbling and ask for her number, if she says no? Turn around walk away real fast and make sure to stomp your feet cus you powerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 12:49 PM
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Dude, you can't in good faith just disregard what I say and say "everything you have just said has nothing to do with the application of the principle" without engaging in why. I told you something like racism would obviously call for more justification. I told you why it would. The two separate unequivalent positions cannot be justified with the same principle because one requires way more justification. The point wasn't "the reason the data exists," point was that (2) We know through factual d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:48 PM
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Because there are difference in reasoning and how reasonable they are. Understanding women are more vulnerable justifiably, reasonably and overwhelmingly accepted notion. There's no actual outwardly bigotry, to women who fear men, men are an environmental factor that can possibly cause them gravely harm. It is a defensive and passive manifestation of belief, not an active application of belief. Conversely, racism for example is an active antagonization entailed with offensive actions that most p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:55 PM
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It's not a moral grand standing, when something as common sense point as to why some women are afraid of men, is met against with argument that compares an extremely unequivalent example as racism, it's hard not to suspect that you are at the least trying to antagonize the point especially given the nature of this sub. I did assume the nature of your comment to be some type of way, so out of good faith I'll admit that I did get lost in the sauce and assumed your character lol, my fault on that. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:38 AM
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Well, it depends, if you're getting laid for it you might not think that way 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 06:36 AM
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The two aren't even remotely the same. Just because you can vaguely define the line of thought, does not mean it's the same, applicable nor the outcome. Can racists fear the people they hate? I'm sure, I won't deny that, but even then there's no real way to prove that fear is what caused the discrimination or discrimination is what caused the fear. The overwhelmingly proven cases of racism are rooted in the belief of racial superiority and inferiority, therefore active antagonization and relegat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 06:34 AM
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I agree in that from a moral standpoint, no one deserving of bad things should get those bad things. I disagree in realistic standpoint where unprompted criticisms and antagonizations will be hurled at one regardless of deserving or not, whether it'd be by girls they have crush on, their family, boss, or even complete stranger, so it's best to have that experience and learn how to deal with it. Also being crushed by such is telling in itself and it indicates perfectly why such experience is need…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 03:34 AM
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No telling what kind of talks they actually had or what was actually expected, but generally desire for "stability" in 30's I'd say isn't necessarily shallow. Stability necessarily includes income, but wanting stability isn't JUST wanting the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 10:14 PM
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RP and feminists. Same coin different side tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 08:45 PM
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Loneliness is normal though, it is part of human beings and it doesn't need justification. What does need justification is why this should be everyone else's burden because these things are expected to be individual responsibility as one has the most direct agency and impact on it. How would the anyone else even fix it for you? Make societal and political changes that obligate the everyone to be friends with each other like that's ever feasible? Obligate women to date someone they're not attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 08:41 PM
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Well how are they going to earn their validation in form of Reddit upvotes that literally does not matter in real life, other than an ignant gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:15 AM
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True-ing queen
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:06 AM
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Anytime a post claims that there's only one type of way that a person is acceptable and right, it needs to be immediately discarded and disregarded. It shows lack of experience, nuance and frankly lack of insight. One doesn't need worlds experience to know that people are different, it's one of the first things one ideally learns as they grow up and socialize in school. People are different, they act differently, they have different approaches, views, beliefs in life, and it all manifests in dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 08:08 PM
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They also externally empathize to cases they see on internet, which in a bigger picture is a mere fraction, however in a person's eye is tremendous, which further reinforces or even fosters biases against women. Problem with this is that empathizing really isn't about having the actual experience of it, but the feeling of it is just as if they have experienced it because they can see themselves in it. More than that, especially for folks who are inexperienced with women are certain to have doubt…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 05:51 AM
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Lol yea it's true that its women's standard and it'd also mean the number of how many would vary based on who. Your reply makes it sound like you're just making an authoritative assertion that because this is a topic about women whatever any one woman says is absolutely right when the numbers can obviously vary. 3,6 or 9 maybe too early or too late based on who.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:06 AM
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You have to realize that the number of men who are dropping out of society in many forms, whether it'd be in dating, jobs, education etc, is still not even close to majority. Imo this only indicates that people who are still in the playing field, which ARE the majority, are now going to be offered with higher default value and better and wider opportunities, same goes for immigrants especially in a country that is as desirable as US, so long as they're legal I suppose now 🤣🤣. Basically "people a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:04 AM
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It seems like through out the post, you do admit that you care to have someone in your life. It's just that the next best choice in case that you have no prospect is to not care. Fact of matter is that you have a challenge that's clearly hanging in front of you, you either give up and convince yourself that you don't care or you try until you succeed. It is not going anywhere, it's right in front of your face until you do something about it and in fact it's the most likely the way you'll achieve…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 11:07 AM
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What really needs to be pointed out is the authenticity behind it. First off, I agree with your general premise about nice vs doormat. However, it should be pointed out that it's the authenticity that matters. Authenticity matters because when people adopt an authentic and honest attitude with their naturally inclined trait, whether it be nice or asshole, they will bound to build experience from society which in turn change and shape it in a way that is acceptable, useful and even attractive. Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:17 AM
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The real selling point of TRP is that it validates chronically lonely men's negative emotions and assumptions about women. It's not about context, it's not about the so called "philosophy," it's not about when it's applicable or how to even apply it, it's about telling those men they're right to feel and believe the things they do. And it is nothing but detrimental to their cause. It's nonsensical to think that embracing toxic generalization about the exact people they actually want to be with i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:27 PM
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I agree, it's always the expectation that it WILL lead to a romantic relationship where the downfall is. However it's never that it WILL, it's always that it can. And the proper and honest attitude therefore is in fact admitting that there can be friendship that may or may not lead to love, which is an undetermined variable unique to the instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:06 AM
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Aggression is already mentioned in other comments, so I'd say next thing in line is emotional unawareness. This usually plays in part to aggression, but also manifests in other psychological ways such as depression, anxiety and being insecured. Moreover, it even influences their direct environment as emotional fluency is necessary for average folks to be leading a successful social or even generally life, this is a bit of vicious cycle as some aspects of emotional fluency has to be learned and r…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 11:51 PM
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I mean, it kind of matters, just in a self actualization kind of way. Goal is never to "become an asshole" especially in context of relationship, no matter how losers will argue "ohh girls only love assholes," it's never true in generality or in long term, especially if a relationship is pretty much on an equal standing where looks aren't overwhelmingly one sided, one party isn't financially dependent, or for some reason one side is insanely,madly or desperately in need and/or love. Relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 08:34 AM
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To me, it's honestly simple, lot of women are usually looking to be accepted as person themselves, a genuine emotional connection. What they specifically don't want, is a systemic judgement of who they should be as a person or a woman and what they're expected to be, which at this point it becomes glaringly clear that general RP tendencies can be literally antonymous to such notion. Because also, tell me how this isn't what most RPers aren't arguing for? Most complaint made by RPers is this arbi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 10:15 AM
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Impacted by or other wise just involve, both are the cases. It's not like all men just overwhelmingly want to avoid parenthood, not like they don't look forward to the kid they'll have with the mother, they do adopt, so in all forms circumstantially involve men. That’s how most things work? Doesn't mean it's arbitrary, and that's why changes are called for in the first place, murder impacts people, we don't just chop it off as that's how most things work. If my partner decides to get a vasectomy…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:52 PM
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Abortion, miscarriage circumstantially involve men, parenthood overwhelmingly, which offers no again agency to men involved, which I have been saying but for some reason it has to be broken down into rudimentary sense for you. Edit: in fact all of them circumstantially involve men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 09:58 PM
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You keep missing the other part where pregnancy leads to an obvious and necessarily an outcome that does involve 2 parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 09:45 PM
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What a nightmare of circular reasoning, yes, after which follows my comment of the obvious problem where such agency for women dictates men's outcome while they themselves are given absolutely no agency of the circumstances pointing at obvious inequality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 09:20 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion! Doesn't change the magnitude of stupidity behind of your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 09:05 PM
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What does child support even have to do with what I'm saying? I'm not even mildly alluding to it LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 09:03 PM
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You also keep trying to introduce pregnant men as if general consensus or even just about the context of post somehow is regardless of gender when it clearly outlines men vs women dynamic. But I know at this point is an obvious bail. Also, no, agency for women to avoid ramification while men not being provided anything such, which your argument actually implies that men should not only lack but also face direct ramification BASED on women's agency. Just tap out bro, I know you're cooked with all…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 12:09 PM
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If the child doesn't exist, they don't have to be taken care of. Again you keep saying these one liners thinking you're being critical, unaware of the duality of meaning it implies. The problem is within this duality is of the dynamic that only provides the woman with the agency of either oblige or disregard the outcome, whereas the man is given no agency and dependent on solely the woman's choice. Appeal to "epidemic" about how you're so high and mighty while blatantly disregarding half the pop…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 11:54 AM
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Oh? Ok then? Since pregnancy is applicable solely for the one who is affected that has nothing to do with the who is involved with the parenthood, why not then also disconnect the fact that there has been two parties involved in the sex, since pregnancy is solely about women, and therefore no application of responsibility upon bearing of the child? Just as people don't always WANT a child every time they have sex, a person doesn't want a child every time they get pregnant. Which you seem to agre…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 11:32 AM
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Having and raising a child only happens after pregnancy. Parents lives can get absolutely trashed from being responsible to having kids, seems like there are things bound to get trashed either way so what's the point? And why do you folks talk as if like they're separate when parenthood and pregnancy are literally in tandem? Like sure have a chicken but not an egg LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 11:17 AM
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This is probably one of the most ignorant comment I've ever heard, and I've been around on PPD for while and that really says something LOL. Like hey, you smoked your cigarette, who cares whether you put it out or not, the forest fire is completely something else. Why not also separate sex from pregnancy then therefore no responsibility of conception? Since pregnancy is solely applicable to women? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 11:00 AM
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So then you also admit that abortion rights in fact address nothing about men who also obviously face ramification of having and raising a child? Because people see having a child as life changing regardless of the gender, whether it be physically, financially, mentally or socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:42 AM
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Literally projection from them, because not a single second of my life will a woman ever convince me to hand over my pizza for sex. I'd take longer eating the pizza anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 11:25 AM
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What kind of male archetypes are equivalent to "sirens and witches?" Fucking werewolves? Also wouldn't "androgynous archetypes" be the perfect fit as your argument is about equality as it indicates both parties are capable of the same thing? And this is the case. Men can also leverage seduction to pull whatever on women. Just because some folks aren't able to doesn't mean it's not a thing 🤣🤣🤣. Men are by far have been overwhelmingly in position of power and have been found plenty times to levera…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:22 AM
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Wow this is almost the same idea about men hating someone who is uncontestedly better version of themselves named Chad that will score with every single one of those women who hate the idea of sex robots. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Can't refute with Youtube videos that is algorithmically driven and catered to viewer's choice and 5000 out of 8 billion people in the world to support it!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 10:37 AM
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I've dated a girl with history of abuse. The relationship with her in hindsight definitely had more challenges, but she also was by far the smartest person I've ever dated. I won't claim an intellectual myself, but her tendency to think deeply about her past, and application of such "deep thinking" to lot of unrelated things, makes me think that her experience is what makes her so smart. All that to say, it would not affect my decision what so ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 08:41 AM
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Is that even a real stat? 60% women in US for example would be 90 million women, there's no way all those women have even been on record to state that they prefer bear over men. Regardless, sure, misandry is a thing, but it's not about assigning blame here. If we were talking about women, I'd still say the same thing. Embracing toxic generalization about the person they want to be with is probably the most ass backwards thing. Does that change anything? Just because there are misogynists, doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 07:02 PM
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Some people can't see the irony in wanting to be with a person while embracing toxic generalizations about that exact person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 10:14 PM
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In all honesty, So it should actually be, men prefer women to wear some makeup that makes her look good, but not so much that I can notice it (meaning you can get away with a lot actually). sounds ideal to me. A little to do with looks of course but more so it tells me how much they are occupied with trying to look good and how others see them. By extension, plastic surgery is a no go for me as it seems like a further reach than most makeups. And generally I do believe they should tell especiall…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:25 PM
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Lol same reasons as to why women crave love and intimacy. It's part of our general being, men now days just have harder time finding it or have next to 0 experience of it even.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:59 PM
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Ya as far as she knows 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:50 AM
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Personally I don't prefer liberal women, I mean I don't think anythings wrong with them but generally my experience is that the more liberal the woman seemed the harder the relationship was for me. This was really reflected even in platonic friendships. The biggest problem is always the "feelings are important" kind of mindset, because in my experience when they said "feelings are important" they really just meant only THEIR feelings were important. I tend to vibe better with people who can gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 05:36 AM
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Internet is a good emotional outlet, you'll always find someone who agrees with you and validate your experience and feelings. Hence shit like echo chamber etc. Nonetheless, it's not really about debating, it's just about facilitating their psyche.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 03:50 AM
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Personally as a man, I don't think there's a real inclination of masculinity unless prompted by social situation, as generally I believe gender roles are somewhat of a societal norm. I never felt as though I needed to assert or display my masculinity in anyway, and the times I felt prompted to do so would be usually dictated by social norms such as standing up for girls being targeted by guys or whatever. Other times I felt prompted was when I felt insecured with ideas such as "am I coming off a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 03:10 AM
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Generally when men do cater to women, it's because they want to get the women to like them or because they're taught that women are to be cared for, whether if it's because they're more vulnerable, whatever virtuous notions. Latter becoming probably an obsolete but still relevant tradition. I dk if women are more "in demand." I heard women themselves complaining about being single, or "good men out there," none which I care to argue for or against just that such sentiment is relevant somewhere. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:43 PM
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Typical RP "I'm a victim" mindset :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:01 AM
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It's a detrimental ideology. The advice they give are very commonly found in society and have been prevalent for a long time, whether it be success, self improvement or being more attractive whether it be fashion or fitness, traditional notion of masculinity or what have you. What makes RP actually unique is the misogynistic quality, by preaching shit like "hypergamy" which generalizes and implies all women to have the qualities that the society deems immoral. Because tell me why then these men …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 03:00 AM
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Literally wiki it and research it, I know you have 0 clue about it because it has 0 ties to sexual behaviors or women. 0 ties, and if there are, prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 06:21 AM
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Because Pareto's principle has nothing to do with women or sexual behavior 🤣🤣literally go look up what it is. And no, you can't just "clear how that's going to end up" without actually representing why or how, the variables and measurements. I mean if you want to prove your case, provide a scientific literature that has been reliably peer reviewed. Even if there exist a study, it is not a statement of general truth unless it actually reflects general population. Which most studies/stats just are…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 06:10 AM
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Lol why would you assume them to be right to start with? Something like 80/20 is a misquoted idea, which the origin I believe is Pareto's Principle which indicates that 80% of outcomes are affected by 20% of causes, and have little to no prove it being relevant to mating in any shape or form. And it is not intellectually honest to refer to already existing studies or researches, make additional hypothesis or claim without testing the notion, and claim that that's real. Again, whatever little goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 10:07 PM
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Sure there are thin lines through out the collective, but they are still collective and have echoing views and tenets they follow such as women are hypergamous. It obviously points out some commonality between the believers, and those tenets specifically are what makes it toxic. I won't argue that there are hint of good in RP, but those things are found in society in general. People didn't and don't need RP to tell them that money is one of the indicators of successful life, nor working out will…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 07:15 AM
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No u.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 04:21 AM
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Right, the same men who are crying about standards being too high and having 0 chance with women because they only want chads, I'm suppose to believe that they have overwhelming experience. RP isn't about shared experience because most of RPers don't have experience. It's about validation of their negative emotions from failure with women for one reason or another, and the confirmation of their baseless suspicion by echo chambering with each other. And I'm not BP, BP doesn't exist, it was defaul…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 02:52 AM
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I'm having hard time how that indicates that chads are the only ones matching. Especially given that ratio is higher on men than women, that only proves that there exists a gender ratio. For example if a 100 women were present, and 275 men are present, it only indicates that there are 175 men left over after matching. I don't see how this actually implies an attribute, while it refers to clear difference in genders to start with. I guess a proving factor would be just how many people are conside…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 11:06 AM
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 whoever ms painted this is great, the variables are significantly misrepresented, bar and through friends are misrepresented by 15% in 2020. Though the generalization that online is increasing in trend while other methods are in decrease is definitely correct, seriously asserting the false graph as if is honestly bit telling. You can find the actual graph by searching M.J. Rosenfeld and the title.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 10:35 AM
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Never thought I'd agree with the point written by red flair, but you do make a good point. The chances are at best in irl when they're people who aren't absolutely above average. I'll admit that I don't really have lot of experience with online dating, but I can guess that it has very strict limit on how much of a person is portrayed. Whereas in irl, a person can be spoken to a length, by how he carries himself, what he says and how he says it, body language etc, there's lot more factors to be c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 09:31 AM
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It doesn't have to be verbatim. You look at portrayal of men in movies, it doesn't literally TELL you to do those things, it is implied that certain traits are supposed to be displayed by men. Think about being attractive. Do you really need one to tell you you can work out to make yourself look better and more attractive? Because these things you don't need someone to tell you, all it requires is for you to read between the lines. If you couldn't figure that out yourself, it is actually telling…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:14 PM
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"Accepting the fraud" is just one of the ways to frame it, which happens to be obviously negative. What if it was framed as "opportunity to invest in future" or "willingness to compromise?" Obviously that sounds way better. Though I guess you could still argue the division of perspective between women who are subjecting the men to such, and men's decision. The few single mothers I've known, as far as I can figure, seem to understand that it is definitely a burden in someways that doesn't entitle…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 09:16 AM
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I'm sure personal experience can vary, but I would find the notion that your experience is actually a reflection of general to be doubtful at best. In my experience I was taught the such notions rather quickly it was enforced all around me even as peer pressure as my friends who were in same age bracket would understand and conduct themselves with silent but obvious commonality. What do you suppose then? Do you think it is a ground breaking knowledge that only came about in last 5~10 years? That…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:57 AM
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It's an obvious underhanded way to implicitly view all women to what the society deems to be shameful qualities. That they only want men with money, that they only want men who are superficially superior, that they have shamelessly high standard etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:35 AM
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Conventional wisdom. Which RP mainly consisted of, with exception of generalizing women in degrading way such as them being "hypergamous." Which is its actual main catch given that RP advice such as working out, making money, being successful, or even the stoic masculinity is NOT a groundbreaking knowledge. So why don't men flock to the knowledge, the conventional wisdom, that was already given to the point of cliche? What makes men choose RP? It's probably the thing it is actually unique for, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:40 AM
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Sure call it an anecdote but you aren't providing anything that's on par to anecdote as to why it isn't true. I argue at least tiny bit of validity in such anecdote as if there were to be any real studies on sex and its impact on bonding, pornstars are sure to be an exemplified variable, therefore their anecdotal inputs to reflect relevance. Second, when you reframe my point to yours, sure, however we're talking about "ran through" and "pornstars," the common ground being some level above averag…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:23 PM
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Pornstars for example, there are few instances where they speak about relationships and specifically about hardships they have forming bond with someone else, on interviews podcasts or what have you. Now whether this is a cognitive defense mechanism or actual repercussion from neurochemistry, I can't really say, however with whatever little I believe I know about it, to me sound sensible that too much sex can indeed cause problem in bonding.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:54 AM
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Well there's recent development of "self improvement" as some sort of internet/gender phenomenon, and there's general self improvement. I don't know why it became a term that coins the former when the concept itself has been around for all eternity for all we know. People used to just self improve. Somethings they're not good at, they practiced and worked at it, getting an education, working out, better job, refining their craft or passion or whatever, it's something that has always existed. I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 06:51 AM
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They aren't. The claim is that because men, in order to be with lot of women, must be some sort of exceptional that it interpret to value when they do or have. By extension the value of the man can be proven by how many women they have been with. But the real catch in that statement is to covertly lace and claim that only certain types of men are successful with women, which is a reinforcing notion of their belief that society and women are some sort of ways and they're the victims of it. Basica…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 08:19 AM
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It's pretty simple in statistics, variables must be relevant to the hypothesis. Simply stating that from a male set that there exist jobs subset and paternity subset, doesn't actually prove the overlap of the two. Can I possibly fathom that some of those men who died were fathers? Sure. Does that necessarily mean that they died from being a father? No. It's like saying that because there exist men who are murderers who happen to eat pizza, men who eat pizza are murderers. There is no direct conn…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:55 AM
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Yea no kidding. I have never seen such comparison, but seeing it for the first time already makes me tired too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:30 AM
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Chemistry is natural inclination, while environment is more determinant of personality. While I believe there are definite overlaps between male and female, chemistry and environment, generally interaction between people are probably lot more environmental factors than the brain chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:28 AM
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I kinda do, but when I do the focus isn't to determine whether if she's a romantic prospect, but more on trying to be aware of how I'm going to approach the relationship. Generally when meeting new people, 1 of the 3 cases are usually relevant, where someone is instantly attractive, someone I want to be friends with, or someone I might dislike. All of those things I have experience of being actively unaware but also passively pursuing through actions, I guess feelings at play, which the outcomes…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 08:57 AM
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Nah, my standards are unrealistically too high and that's why I don't ever get matches ever and end up deleting them :')
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 09:34 AM
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Nope. But apparently I'm supposed to jump in and block the shots for her and I got a pretty big head so she probably doesn't have to worry about that, unless she's getting one by Brock Lesnar or something in which case I'll be calling the funeral home.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 09:19 AM
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Lol sure if you believe that. I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 08:28 AM
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True, sex will be billion times better with someone you love than not anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:26 AM
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I actually can't think of anything, as a man I've never had shortcomings that was ever gender specific, and I don't believe gender ever got in my way. I never felt a direct relegation due to gender, I've never experienced being the parent that's less appreciated, I don't care that women have friends because I have my own friends, same for sex or whatever else you have. Whatever they have/don't have, doesn't affect me. My life is mine with its own ups and downs and it has lot of things but it als…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 08:28 PM
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Isn't the argument that most women don't love most men in relationships? Because women are "some sort of ways?" Don't get me wrong, I don't agree planck's constant worth of measurement with them, but I also don't think it make sense that anyone would argue or even heard arguing about everyone not loving everyone else 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:56 PM
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You're saying that women can change those, but upon making let's say a reasonable 100% proven judgement that a woman with a high count is also a fat single mother who has tattoos, they're already those things that they're being judged for, and no one can really go back in time and change the past. So it's your claim doesn't really entail feasible difference, because they are in fact being judged for being those things they can't change, exception of being fat. And yes, you can draw more benevole…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:26 AM
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The whole "submissive" focus is the weirdest shit, even the traditional roles aren't "submissive" in that they're accepting the role of some sort of servitude, or somehow giving it all up to the man, it was just separation of different roles. I can't possibly fathom being with a woman who wants to do nothing but serve me, might as well be dating a robot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 11:10 PM
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It's that one song by Radiohead
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:23 PM
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Genuine kindness
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 05:52 AM
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 04:31 AM
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The argument is against the generalization, not that whether it exists or not. Obviously, you can pick out some 10s, 100s, 1000s of videos of women saying this women saying that, same for the so called "statistics" usually limited to some hundreds of sample sizes. That is not a sufficient enough evidence to generalize the population of women in US for example 150 million. Therefore to claim that it is a reflection of general population, is not an honest point to be debated. What you see on the i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 01:51 AM
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I dk, are they good people? Usually virginity is rarely telling about their personality, maybe their approach in relationship is different, then you can say that though they themself as a person might/might not be desirable, maybe their approach of relationship just isn't for everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 11:57 PM
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Yea man, then find a person who will meet that standard!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 08:57 AM
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It's one of those things where the boundaries are different based on the person. I've dated girls who both didn't care I watched porn vs who only wanted me to nut off to her pictures. So if you walked in on your SO slapping her lady parts with synchronized rhythm to the video of some gigachad with mega inches drilling some girl that is playing on her screen, would you actually be ok with it? Personally my answer is no and therefore no porn (as far as she knows).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 08:17 AM
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I've dated a submissive woman before and I don't think I'll ever date one again. I need a woman who can be eye to eye with me and speak her opinion instead of just folding every given chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 01:44 AM
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Because in echoes of traditional societal norm, any kind of attention seeking behavior in our society are deemed needy, shallow, or otherwise juvenile behavior to display. In that same traditional scheme women generally aren't taught to take the initiative to men they like, and so they generally result to sending "hints" or trying to catch attention, as they probably usually feel like they don't have the option of initiative. It's as same as men's right activists and RP losers' claim that societ…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 11:16 PM
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I'd definitely outwardly support her and pay her legal services. I'd also remind myself that I don't know the future, I don't know what happened, I don't know everything and anything is possible. But I also don't have daughter or a kid right now, and my guess is that really being in that situation is going to be whole lot different than I imagine it to be here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 08:50 AM
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how many women are demisexuals?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 06:05 AM
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Personally no, I don't think my emotional depth and capabilities are sufficient for a child's need. Let alone healthy even. I tend to be very "pull by the bootstrap" and while I might be able to raise my kid to be disciplined, emotional capacity and sociability is also something the child needs to learn and be facilitated for, which I feel less capable than your typical average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:31 PM
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I can only think that people who has legit emotional hatred against the mere concept of sluts aimed at the general world, while having no experience with one or are actively being affected by one, probably one way or another are trying to facilitate their emotions rooting from shit like inferiority complex, by expressing how bad those people are and how much they hate them. You know, the misogynists. I don't particularly agree with the lifestyle and I find it to be a bad trait for a person to ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 09:59 PM
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He probably did and it's probably why you wrote this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:49 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 09:02 AM
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I'm not getting the connection here. Yes, crime is illegal and is considered a bad thing. Also yes, people (as a whole) still commit crime. Unless we're connecting a lack of authenticity to crime, I don't get it. What I'm pointing out is that bad outliers such as liars and frauds exist Hmm...on the subject of authenticity, couldn't it be said that even folks who pretend and lie are able to be successful? I'd assume if that was the most critical factor, then it would be more unlikely to see these…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 11:02 PM
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Well it probably matters the point of perspective, if you were to objectively gauge what works and doesn't, of course there would be case of outliers. For example, you and I and probably most people can agree that maybe murder is the worst of the crimes. Doesn't change that it happens and there are even cases of like minded people banding together such as gangs. Also when you take it into your own personal level perspective, can you honestly believe that you'd willingly give liars and frauds a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:15 PM
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The whole nice argument needs to die. There's never going to be specific formula that will work 100% for everyone because everyone's circumstances are different. What matters the most is the authenticity. Nice is totally fine with most people so long as its authentic, as much as bit of machiavellian qualities are also something people find charming, so long as it is authentic. That's why people need to stop theorycrafting on internet and build some actual lived experiences because that's how one…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 06:59 AM
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Yea, I'm prone to believing that most of these guys who say women this women that, probably has next to 0 experience with women and are afraid to try because of they think the bad examples of women they see on the internet is whole of the world, when really it stands for small probability they'll encounter. Ironically, one does need an experience that tells them otherwise to not generalize that way, but because they're so scared to get to know a woman, they'll likely to never come out of their s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 06:15 AM
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By "fair game" straight criminal shit? Probably not. But adjacent, definitely. I remember there was an instance where this guy claimed that they have slept with a girl with such reputation, only for it to turn out that he was lying and was just reinforcing the rumor of her being a slut because she turned him down. They definitely weren't seen as equal as other girls either. I remember there being many instances of how guys would banter, talk shit about them, and sometimes actually try their shot…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 12:58 AM
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Bit off on tangential but they should still self improve, just not with the goal of being with someone because it still doesn't guarantee them a 100% chance that they'll score with the girl of their dream, hence the bitterness out of possible failure. It's like scratching all the lotteries you can find in your near vicinity thinking you WILL win the lottery. When you happen to lose all those lotteries, your investment now feels or at least in case of lotteries is a waste. Obviously "heightening"…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 10:49 PM
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There are different point of views. When one party specifically asks for a test, sure, that is accusatory or otherwise some sort of insecurity and sometimes maybe it's the case that the man actually has some sort of proof to lead to that in first place. However for people who are asking it to be some sort of mandate, the point that is most frequently brought up is about protecting men from serving a child that isn't even his, which the scenario does not involve a specific party in individual ele…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 09:44 PM
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I'm prone to believing that most people would find it to be tasteless, but also it's not inconceivable for it to be a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:22 AM
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I think for most people love, sex, and the drive for it are all natural and go hand in hand most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:21 AM
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Because it was their chance to shed that friendzoned nerd off their back finally
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:17 AM
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You're saying I'm wrong but you're not saying how I'm wrong on what I'm wrong about. Nothing what you said after really contradicts what I'm saying. Seems like in one of your replies to me, you say that women do have something to get out of sex, therefore an equal trade of bodies and nothing lost and that women love casual sex, but apparently in this comment it's something only they can provide. So I'm really not sure which one you stand by. Nonetheless and no offense, just based on the nature o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:10 AM
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It isn't that they want to be loved the way they want to be loved, it's specifically that men want to be loved for the person they are, which is something women also desire. In fact you mentioning how women want to be loved emotionally and intellectually and not for sex, literally points out that women do desire to be loved for the essential and intimate qualities as a person. It is the same thing for men. I also don't know when all women have just accepted the notion of being used for sex, last…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:05 PM
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Guess you conveniently skipped over the part where the OP asks for thoughts and I directly give me opinion about the subject matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:24 AM
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I'm not aware of such "magical" phenomenon actually if you could lead me to it. I vaguely remember hearing something similar, I'm just not sure if it's the same thing. I think sudden improvements are definitely possible as have proven in many other techs, but for AI's I wouldn't believe it to be on RizzGPT, though I may be underestimating our fellow ninja geniuses who are in unfortunate circumstances that render them unable to attract any woman and therefore their goal. Though from what I know, …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 07:44 AM
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I'm interpreting "valued" would imply an outer view towards them that defines the value, in which case I'd honestly disagree. Something like chivalry where courtship and "respect for m'lady" were very relevant for a long time, same for tradition. I'd argue more people complain about women now than eever, which then means that obviously those "outer views" of it to be lesser view toward women. But I also understand that fucking fart jars are definitely indicator of something. But I attribute that…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 07:28 AM
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Contrary to the popular belief, AIs aren't as sophisticated as they're thought to be and have many limitations. It can literally hallucinate to provide a result, and it does it very frequently because it is meant to generate a SOME kind of response while lacking the innate complexity to actually filter out for answers. I don't know if you know the extent of AI hallucinations, but iirc ChatGPT had a scandal for falsely accusing a real person of a sexual harassment, which they had no history of. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 07:06 AM
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Well it kind of does because any kind of formula usually are there to PROVE a point, theory or a concept. You aren't proving anything when you're just relaying to a common sense. It's just an attempt at sounding more sophisticated or more intellectual, when literally everyone knows. Which leads to next problem in that you're laying out the common sense which are all about pregnancy and one about muscle building and nothing else. It's a reductive way to pass the whole of your point that includes …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 06:45 AM
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Actually you are kinda right for the first half, still doesn't change that most of what you're providing isn't really a formula. For example Want to have offspring? Have sex with women who can reproduce isn't a formula because you aren't defining any kind of relationships, variables or constants, and why it results to having an offspring. I can't say "what is rain?" And say that "rain is when water is dropping from the sky" and call it a formula. I guess what I mean is that calling most of these…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:45 AM
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Well usually formulas are mathematical and entails specific notations. Here's a formula for power rule for derivatives. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:20 AM
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Idk, seemed like it was a trend so I just tagged in
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:41 PM
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Straw herring
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:11 PM
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Ok, I just looked again and the referred part is actually just one step of many steps of building their "GDI" and entails lot more steps than just ratios.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:59 PM
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No. Men really live 82.5 and women 87.2, the real ration is 82.5 / 87.2 = 0.946 Yea we're saying the same thing, that women live longer than men. Where did they post the ratio?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 08:08 PM
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I didn't really read the whole thing, just the part where you mention the "lie" and what they say in the document. Isn't "adjusted for 5 years" referring to why female values are at 87.5 while male values at 82.5, which actually means they are counting women to live longer if I understand correctly, and its reason probably being men just generally having shorter life cycle which has lot of statistical backing? I guess it's unclear to me how this is some sleight they're pulling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:18 PM
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Well no one's really born with decent communication skills either. They kinda have to have SOME experience before they realize the decency in it. Obviously some people might be natural, but I'd assume a naturally skilled orator is probably not the most average, and most people aren't born gifted and tend to need some sort of experiences in life to learn and self reflect.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:08 AM
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Yea, I think he's right, whining won't make the problems in your life go away, blaming the world and hoping the world changes around you won't happen either. You yourself can own up to your problems and make it go away. Also what exactly am I sacrificing here? My time to get a better education that will heighten my chance of more capable, successful life? Holding down a job to feed myself and buy myself new pc, guitars and shit? How am I a sacrificial lamb of society? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 11:13 PM
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Who said that? Did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:59 PM
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I think the stat you mentioned alone tells you that it doesn't measure up to a generalization. What do you think sample size for the stat is? How do you think it actually measure up to 4 billion women? LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:02 AM
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Wow, one stat based on speed dating, dating back to 2016 to rule all 4 billion women in the world! 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:39 AM
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I'm sure in general cases there's different perspectives and explanations, in the particular scenario you've mentioned, the woman might not even care that they've been relegated to sex. But in the man's perspective they were no longer considered a loving partner, but someone to be used for sex which is quite literally degradation, in their perspective. So that's one part. I guess also because generally it is a hurtful notion to be pumped and dumped in most regular~adjacent relationships, they pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 06:13 PM
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No, I don't think she should be entitled to family income unless the man is also funding a private account because alimony and child support exist specifically for SAHMs who are in such scenarios where they were financially dependent in the marriage. For example, the state of California defines up to 40% of spouse's income as alimony for dependent spouse, which is nearly a half of their income, and also the fact that alimony and child supports are two different things. I think keeping a private …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:23 PM
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It's one's trust in themself to show up when called and see it through. That's why authentically facing challenges and the experiences matter because it will literally serve as evidence to your confidence that you know to be completely true because you're the one who did and will be doing all that shit. You don't need others inputs to know that you had your own challenges. It's also why sometimes clueless douchebags are misinterpreted as "confident" because they do and say dumbshit without a car…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 11:57 PM
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The "sharing" or polyamory is remotely not big enough phenomenon to be causing problems in modern dating scene in wide scale. Monogamy is still the majority expectation of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:33 PM
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It was pretty common sometime ago, some bs about how all women are only willing to date anywhere between top 20% - 1% guys and therefore only some 10000 alpha chads are banging all 150 million women in US LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:31 PM
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fuck that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:42 AM
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I agree for the most part, luck definitely plays a role. But it's also reductive to pin everything to luck because people have free will and agency. They can literally choose to go do push ups instead of finishing the post or my comment. They can go out tomorrow and start talking to people, whoever, make friends and meet someone new. Obviously, one's successes and failures are reflected usually by both luck and their actions. And I think it will be utterly helpful for people to realize that one …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:06 AM
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It's always trying to fit some narrative imo. By appealing and fitting to an existing sentiment of "men are this way" or "women are this way," they implicitly feel supported since for such sentiment to exist in some level of consensus in the first place, there must exist people who must share the same sentiment. It's also probably why there's so much generalization with gender talk as single person's experience can rarely if ever actually reflect a whole of gender correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:36 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:42 PM
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For both sides, whatever "evil" they can conceive usually isn't a driver of a regular person. No one normal wakes up thinking "I'm going to do the world bad today."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:32 AM
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Because it's antagonistic notion to their belief that they're just being treated unfair and the world is against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:19 AM
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I think you make a great point. Most men here want to externalize their problem so that they don't have to face it, whether out of fear, insecurity, hate, and probably usually good mix of them. Ironically the more they try to argue certain things to be one way and embrace it as a mindset, the less likely their chance of success as they tend to incrementally and logically build and envision every hypothetical step of being with a women and in a relationship, that they'll be absolutely thrown off …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:10 AM
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Whoever seriously believe such statement probably aren't well greased between the creases of their brain, if they have any. And in fact probably the statement is mostly used purely to antagonize and get a reaction out of whoever falls for it 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 05:39 AM
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Sure, crudely put a 0/10 worm has no chance of entertaining women he have no intention with, but as anything outlier goes, it probably isn't the most general. Probably your general average people do have the option, what actually varies in that term is whether their standards will allow it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 05:28 AM
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LOL yea you just know all 4 billion people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 04:45 AM
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In my experience, the relationship was most turbulent when I was with someone I loved the most. While both of us had our failures, I can say with confidence that my problem was my insecurity. Especially because I had such a strong feelings for her, it brought out all kinds of sewage lurking under myself to try and get a hold of her by whatever ways I thought would make me feel secured. Though I didn't leave her for another relationship, my contribution of downfall with someone I loved the most w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 08:45 PM
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Constant vigilance by possibility is a detrimental endeavor whether in terms of relationship or even the person's well being itself. Paranoia is literally a considered a mental illness. By shadowboxing what's not there one will not only negatively affect the relationship but themself and their partner as their behavior, actions, pov, and approach will all reflect such stance that is by purely possibility basis. Best approach is to self preserve when preservation is prompted.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:04 PM
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I probably wouldn't care for the gift such as flowers, but I also think more than the gift it's about the gesture.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:37 PM
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Yea yea you're a heartless calculating machine that can't feel nor need love, most people want and need love.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:10 PM
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If a man were to hold such belief, probably first of all it'd be hard for him to get into a relationship, and even if they got into a relationship, he'll end up being paranoid and distrustful at every corner about whether if she really loves him. Which obviously is an unfair circumstance if the said woman actually loves him, because why the fuck would you be in a relationship in the first place, and generally spells for a dysfunctional relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:53 AM
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Probably because the standpoint of being sexually desired differs from men to women. While I believe it can definitely be nuanced, on the simplest terms, for men it's in scarcity while for women it's in abundance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:40 AM
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I don't like pinning men as somehow the victims of it. Sure, some women MIGHT believe in it, but my psyche isn't so fragile that because some women think that it'd hurt me. Just as much as most men aren't criminals, most women aren't weirdo extreme fems who think these tings on daily basis and embrace it as their spiritual animal aligned with Venus's anus. Not to mention the hyperbolic and borderline satirical nature of the subject at hand in the first place, amplified by borderline autism induc…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 07:40 PM
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They aren't obligated, but shouldn't one feel as though they should express their advantage, such as physical prowess, for the better outcome in reference to morals? Like helping elderly carry shit, mow the lawn for your ill neighbor, breaking up a fight whatever. It shouldn't be for some sort of reward, some sort of pandering appreciation, it should just be that a person's orientation should be towards more virtuous outcome. I wouldn't go as far as jumping in front of a gun for random ass girls…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:22 PM
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Their desire for women is separate from what they dislike. It's like they don't like certain qualities of certain women, so their ideal women would be one without those qualities. Though I'd question the source of such, or how related it is that the dislikes are to inner processes and bias, that's beside the point I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:42 PM
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I think it matters how and in what context it's being said. Also generally I don't actually hear it to be a "gendered" term, more so whenever I think of the term it's about bracing up for whatever challenges ahead, so I don't find it to be sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:50 PM
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There are lot to be said in nuance that may change the outcome for someone who has delightful personality. Whether they didn't have the initiative, the girl didn't find them attractive, the general claim of "personality doesn't get you anywhere" doesn't paint the full picture. Therefore to pass it as if personality isn't an important factor, is probably something majority of people would agree to be a misnomer. It's a very intimate way of how most people gauge anything in concept of socializing …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:08 PM
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Necessary awakening? Red pill encourages and magnifies negative emotions they have toward women whether that's stemming from their experiences or inexperience, and failure with them. It does nothing but tells them to sleep and drown in their own pool of toxic shit. What they need is encouragement and realize that their attitude towards the whole thing is wrong so they can start trying and try again until they do meet their one and be genuinely happy. Many other problem exists for them, but open …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:15 PM
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I've been friends with girls while they were dating before. Generally I never had any interest in them, few cases when I did I just stayed way the fuck off and kept it in friends boundary as they were taken. With that experience in mind, I think and know actually that there other men who operate on such boundaries and same for girls, so I think they definitely can be just friends. Ngl though, with my ex anytime she was around any guy friends, I did feel insecured, and I probably will feel insecu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 04:33 AM
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I dk how common it is to ask the bartender of a stranger's name now days, I'm a boomer now and asking the bartender for a strangers name already sounds kinda unhinged in my experience LOL. Only acceptable way would've been to going up to her myself. I don't mean to demean your experience, I don't doubt it. It just doesn't stand to prove the point that you're trying to make, because you're just stating that specific things have specific outcomes. Especially in a bar with all those characteristics…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:34 PM
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Neh, I'd rather do good things. Even if that's somehow that I'm stuck with some girl with twisted drives, I'd try my best. Because if it were to be any impressionable, which if you really think about it, being good is one of the best ways to be impressionable, then I believe it's a seed and example for change for the better. And should you justify by "well other people are like that other people do this other people only care for themselves" and meet them at that line, you yourself now are inclu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 11:07 AM
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You're not wrong in that you'll always find SOME malicious people regardless the gender, it's only problematic if you start generalizing all women from with just those few instances.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 08:43 PM
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Maybe not literally my mommy, but mommy like i dk, goth mommy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:58 AM
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Well hopefully guys who are in their 30's are grown up to realize whatever experience or lack thereof isn't actually every women's or anyone for that matter aside from very specific people in their past life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:35 AM
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I dk where you hailed from, I myself was surrounded by feminist adjacent girls literally watching Depp vs Herd together daily, where they did nothing but shit on Herd, what a karma. And while I fucking hate using internet as the example, it seems pretty overwhelmingly majority that people thought Herd was shitting the bed. That being said, false allegation with intent to antagonize the character if proven, should definitely be criminal and it already is in some countries, South Korea for example…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 10:48 AM
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Yea, if I had to really give a strict answer, I think I'd probably the say the same thing you're saying. It's like sure, there is a bit of disconnect that maybe money can be argued as a strictly secondary characteristic that isn't necessarily residing in the person, but same can be levied against that beauty, even though it does reside within the person, it isn't strictly ABOUT the person. I'm prone to believing that push back against such notion is because until now, financial capability was so…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 10:32 AM
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You're not reading correctly if you think that's what OP is claiming. They're saying statement such as "but men worked hard for their money, while all women did was being born" is an anticipated argument against their claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:33 AM
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Oh yea, 7 year old article which the hyperlinks all leads to other articles from the same website which none of it leads to a reliable and meaningful stats. And it's suppose to generalize a 4 billion people in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:16 AM
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Nope, I'm sure a very positive characteristic can be made from it, I'm not even saying they are materialistic. What I mean by "materialistic" is that it is a secondary characteristic that doesn't necessarily reside within as an essence of a person. Ex, a high achieving rich person, regardless male or female, can still turn out to be an asshole. While something like personality, connection, is probably arguably the closest of those "essence of a person."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:14 AM
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Sure, but you're obviously introducing some sort of a context by applying characteristics. I can do the same by saying that I don't care for a woman's hobby, career, education, etc so long as they have a great personality. Now the statement obviously can be spelt out the same thing but meaning of it miles different. Hence why context matters in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:07 AM
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I don't see why it's abnormal. What if they value chemistry? Personality? Character? Emotional connection? Tbh if they value that over any materialistic qualities, to me they sound like they'd be a great lover if they aren't just falsely trying to convey such characteristic. Which is why OP should have, but probably also willingly dodged to introduce any context. It matters what kind of context because same words spoken can have different meaning based on the context. Also even though I myself p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:06 AM
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I think you're just being silly but I'll take your word for it nonetheless. I can still infer from the post that at least this is spoken with relationship as a context. So when they say "they don't care about women's hobbies, careers, education, etc," they're talking about how they don't need those things to love someone. In their perspective, those things are not essential qualifier of whether the person is lovable or not, therefore it makes no difference whether someone has those traits or not…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 08:26 PM
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So you mean that guys just flat out say that "I don't care about women's hobbies, careers, education, etc?" And not "I don't need a woman to have hobbies, careers, education, etc for me to love them?"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 08:02 PM
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Men as a whole repeatedly say they don't care about women's hobbies, careers, education, etc. I see this as an admission they don't generally care about women as people. Isn't this being said without context? I don't really even care to dispute the claim itself, I guess I only care for honest portrayal of the claim which in this case is that the more "checkmark" one has for anything other than the person in essence, is a step away from the person themselves, therefore not really loving the perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 07:51 PM
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Makes me think of all these handsome ass male models and celebs out there that girls are just dying over. In fact, it's almost like, sexual power is not exclusive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:27 AM
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Yea, that includes just about any pill or reference to pseudoscientific evopsych. I've been that loser but at least been lucky enough to get with girls, and there was always at least one instance of me just projecting my insecurity one way or another. Not one of them cheated on me, ever talked to other dudes some sort of ways (if they did I sure as hell had 0 evidence), and I always thought they were good enough to find the better guy than me. It always manifested in controlling behavior if not …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:14 AM
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What kind of "power" exactly are you talking about? The power to leave the relationship the easiest and fastest? If said someone was willing to conduct themselves as such, why get with them in the first place? There is a reason why people shit on hoes, no one likes hoes and ones who do are just as dysfunctional as them. But realistically no one should be delving into a relationship thinking about escape plans and who has power over what.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 07:06 PM
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I mean yea, I think based on who it is sometimes it is realistic to think that for them that is the best they can get. Seems pretty straight forward tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 09:00 AM
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It certainly isn't a friendly statement lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:03 AM
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What really irks me more than anything is people assuming to be their right to violate others and offend for the sake of, well "rights" and freedom. Sure, you can have the rights and freedom, but shouldn't you in right conscience and mind CHOOSE NOT TO do so by extending SOME level of understanding for others? Because one's action is what makes them in the first place, and "freedom to do whatever I will" in violation of others, justification always being that it's "constitutional," that it's the…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:54 AM
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When's the last time when you or anyone's initiated or chosen a land whale on the basis that "well maybe she's a nice lady maybe we're compatible maybe her personality is really nice?" With a dime next to her at that? You know that to be absurd because like it or not we do take in consideration of looks, at least a little. Good news is that even that is relative and people do have chances of punching up, especially men, based on their economic, social, otherwise personable capabilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:18 AM
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Most people in this sub interpret as 80/20 as "well I liked a girl who liked a hotter guy than me." And presented with a best option, why would one not pursue it? Especially the setting of it being a "dating event," of course everyone would try to orient their goal to be the best option. I could say the same thing about men, I've seen plenty guys chase for one hottest girl in the school, in the town, at a house party. It's normal to fond over the best. That being said, I've seen many girls with …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:56 AM
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Yes in form of education, which honestly is more of suggestion than an indoctrination, and doesn't have to be kids in uniforms and enforced by law. What would be the problem aside from far fetched conspiracy adjacent assertions like "government will use it to enslave people?" Which turns out is your point. Well I mean tell me, what are these basic moral principles? How is it suggested or enforced according to your claim that it already exists? Or even accepting the premise that it's an "ideologi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 04:19 AM
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Moral ethics philosophy and basic stats. Especially if in US, we can use some standardization of morals and ethics, instead of everyone just believing whatever the fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:06 PM
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No ones saying that those men are unqualified in those arbitrary subjective standard. The view is simply that the better they're off, the better their chances are in dating. If you look better, if you're living better, if you have a better education and career and therefore higher standard of living, if you're a better person, if you know how to socialize better, your chances in dating must also get better. This does not IMPLY, that their position right now is lacking or that they are doing some…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:39 PM
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What are you even trying to gauge OP? One is obviously more generous than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:24 AM
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Yea, Ronaldos been playing soccer for longer than some people here has been alive. Ngl mans probably sick of making goals lol. Realistically, what else can you do though? Loneliness sucks, I've been there, but if one can't realistically get out of it, what else can you do other than trying to be happy whatever ways they can and break out of the loneliness?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:11 AM
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No, self improvement is a realistic way to better not just dating but most all aspects in life. You can't morally blame women for not being attracted to someone they just aren't attracted to. Would you date an obese land whale? Probably not (unless you are in which case at least lot of other men wouldn't) because you aren't attracted to them. But what if they lost weight? Then maybe someone will find them at least superficially attractive. Self improvement is a great way to raise your chances wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:31 AM
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If you think you have a point, I think articulating your argument instead of baseless posturing would be more useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:18 AM
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Nope. As a circumcised male, it has never bothered me once. Not having the minuscule step of reaching under to clean it out honestly seems like a fair trade for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 11:41 PM
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I probably don't have the experience of a beautiful male model, but I did have few girls approach me or throw themselves at me before. While I'm really not all that, for the purpose of the point I have to make a bit vain statement that none of them were at my standard that I believe to be at. So it does display bit of high risk high reward type of mentality where they'd have more to gain. Which in my guess at least for women, is probably more modern phenomenon than not. You're definitely right a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:03 PM
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Well I think your experience does matter. I did say attraction is subjective so maybe I'm just measuring per situation wrong. Regardless, imo it's better to speak from experience than getting butthurt over some theorized bullshit that one hasn't even experienced. That being said, as much as I endorse your experience, I also respect other people's experiences and just for the sake of the point, I ask you to do the same. Do you honestly think that's the first time and I'm the first person to itera…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:19 AM
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Static? Not so much, there are lot of things you can do to change your standing in terms of attractiveness. You're also ignoring that attractions subjective, that's why you see girls with beat up dudes as much as you see ugly dudes with a beautiful women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:58 AM
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It's such a weird proposition that doesn't make sense though, what are you even sampling as the number of "high status men" that all these women chase after and date? Like how many of them are there and let's say in US, how are approximately 150 million women all dating these same guys? Or do you reduce it by introducing features on those women? How many examples do you have? Reasonably I gotta think that the actual number of women who are strictly in the domain of how you defined them, are actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 05:29 AM
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Yes, in fact protest for meaning in spite of a person's own life is told so many times over, are you not familiar with such? Sure, it definitely can be EXPLAINED through evolutionary scope, but there also exist a sentimental scope that people tend to overwhelmingly identify themselves with in the first place. Do you claim objectivity of comparing people to bees to be an objective view? Or do you think what people view as objectivity, to be objective? Why do you think you're a mind reader? If you…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:28 AM
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Oh I don't know, the same reason why when you are thirsty it feels good to drink water. You want something in life and you get it, that just feels good, just like how some people tend to answer questions they can answer based on their view. What kind of question is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:10 AM
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It does feel good, to live in a bigger house, to buy whatever you've wanted to for long time, to live the life the way you want and actually be able to afford it. Where is the involvement of "others" when you can do things for yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:00 AM
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You do, though. If biological blueprints were to be literal restriction, you wouldn't see self immolating Tibetan monks, you wouldn't see self sacrificing mothers, you wouldn't see brave soldiers, you wouldn't see people who literally do overcome those bounds of flesh and bones, blood and neurons just for meaning. Again, just because you aren't willing doesn't mean others don't. For someone who's "science pilled," you seem awfully unobservant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:42 AM
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Dissolution of feminism and TRP. They're literally the same coin different sides. They all impinge on magnifying emotional relation by extreme examples while inlaying a vague relations as if the listeners are all victims of such when their literal lived experiences don't actually even come close. It does nothing but allow people to live in their made up suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:37 AM
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The whole point is to transcend over it. Just because you set the restriction on yourself within it, doesn't change the fact that we look up to people who go over and beyond it. That's why we admire out of characteristics people in the first place, the fact that there exist people who regardless transcended over those physical and biological bounds for mere "meaning" of our morals. We tend to call those people heroes, or otherwise at least a memorable person of our time. Keep blending yourself i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:59 AM
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Sure I agree, take it to extreme and it definitely is an absurd notion. What you may have overlooked is that improvement probably includes social aspects of it too. I'd argue that social aspects should definitely be a goal for people to improve and achieve in, but this does not come from only by being the "best person in their eyes." Because it also matters to have some level of disagreeableness, if that is within you or if life prompts you to at some point because those things and experiences t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 09:13 AM
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I don't think self improvement is just about appearance, but sure if you're talking just about improving appearance, then appeal to others is obviously a better outcome for yourself, but also self reflected endeavors like confidence. What matters is the frame of perspective. If you're doing that with yourself betterment in mind, great. Making other people the goal and putting their opinion is the problematic part as you'll never have a consistent opinions of others of you, and whatever you have …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 09:02 AM
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Ok, so your disagreement isn't against a smarter and general betterment, you're just saying that there's a sweet spot for it. Do you believe most people are already in those sweet spots in all of those fields in the first place? I'd have to assume that most people are lacking in some if not the most, so most generally any type of applicable improvement is, still applicable. Also my response few of the things you've listed, but probably more of side notes then anything. I think you're overlooking…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:47 AM
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You don't think its better for people to be smarter? More informed? Healthier? Comfortable secured life? I guess you can call it whenever you want to, it can only get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:13 AM
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Personally, if I'm settled with someone then I'm just settled. I'm gonna get old with them so why bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:01 AM
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Because it's SELF improvement, it's for your own development and no one else and putting other people's subjective view of you makes it a pathetic one because people will see you some sort of ways regardless. It's a spineless one because the real goal and the frame it holds is that you are conceding all the aspects of yourself to how others view you. Which arguably if you're looking for a better chance in dating, you'd probably want to get comfortable in your own skin first before anything as gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:20 PM
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Well clearly if a cataclysmic event were to happen, the condition of survival and priority in life must change, what kind of bafoonery statement is that? Who would ever lift when you got lava flowing onto your foot?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:50 PM
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Self-improvement shouldn't and doesn't involve anyone else. It's for your betterment, no one else. It's such a spineless and pathetic point of view to do all those things just so that one can appeal for a "better chance" with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:07 AM
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My man you are lost in the sauce 🤣🤣. Gorilla comments only there to display that even at extremas of physical difference, physical difference must not make a difference which I assume is the original comment's point, therefore, physical difference between men and women are not a big of a concern. The contention still strictly lies within of men vs women. To which my response that you've generously quoted, which if you are unaware, the contention still being men vs women. The problem with introdu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 09:53 PM
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It seems more likely that is a lot of words you can't comprehend. When you're comparing apples and oranges, why would you compare an apple to an apple and assert the difference between the two as if it's applicable to difference between apples and oranges? You are taking the quote out of the context, the whole point, between the original commenter and my response, is to compare men and women in the first place. It has nothing to do with what men can do to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:33 PM
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Sure, if you were to ignore women as a variable. The whole point is what women themselves can do to minimize the physical difference that resides between men and women. Your point does not take in count of such, and in fact the leading perpetrators of violent crimes, are men. It's kind of irrelevant to bring up the fact that men can harm other men, when the point of contention is about men vs women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 10:20 AM
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Yea, I guess, but men and women live daily lives to each other whereas casual gorilla encounter is less of a concern. I'm just not too sure what you're proposing, to me it seems obvious that the fact that there is physical difference is literally part of the reason why women are vulnerable to men. Is that not the case? Or are you proposing that women have an equivalently advantageous measure that renders the difference to nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 09:05 AM
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I believe this is at least half the reason why women tend to think men only want sex. I've known few people who were like that including myself. In my experience, I had the tendency to view girls exactly how you mentioned it, and when I finally achieved some level of intimacy with them, I always came to realize that I was never really into them or the way I idealized it to be in the first place. And while it really wasn't my intention to use anyone, I can also see why it'd come off that way. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:46 AM
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3 is worst imo because in my experience, it's ingrained in their personality and world view and they have no middle grounds for it with no compromise. People I've known who were like that were by far the people I had the worst experiences with. 4 is also pretty bad because more than impulse buys, I see it as a characteristic of someone who's focus in life are materialistic and superficial notion. All the others are pretty manageable and isn't comparable to those two imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:01 PM
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4b.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:42 AM
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I think you're just being dishonest, OP makes enough sense that understanding his point isn't impossible. But you're probably offended by the notion he's trying to convey and decided to antagonize him the cheapest way possible. Or maybe your english isn't as good as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:35 AM
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Ah yes, the classic "answering a question by asking 2 more, one of which being a full 0 to 100 out of buttmad." Well from my experience, most women I dated liked me (afaik) and I didn't have money, still kinda don't actually. Hbu? Have you had any experience with women who were after nothing but your money? Are you a divorcee? How are you quantifying, let's say women in US alone, 125 million women to be the way you think they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 06:24 PM
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Avoid marriage, because men lose a lot of leverage against their partners when they do, men generally have more to lose in a divorce, and women initiate most divorces. Avoid investing too much in women, to avoid making them view you as a provider, financially objectify you and essentially treat you like an ATM. And to filter out those who would. Prioritize your own interests(career, sexual satisfaction, etc.) over your partner's interests when they conflict. You really don't see the problem in e…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 05:55 AM
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Some probably think that sex is a value they can provide and they don't like it that men can get it some other ways. Some probably think that it says lot about the character who would go that far just for sex. Some might feel as if it's a reinforcement of nasty notion of "men only want sex." Imo it's equivalent to why men tend to hate gold diggers, there's a value to be had and gold diggers will try to exploit it by any means necessary, and only seeing that "value" rather than the person is a di…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 05:22 AM
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I think it's a pointless endeavor to try and quantify "who likes who more" because it's already a step in the wrong direction. It shouldn't matter and in a perfectly healthy relationship it doesn't, because they just love each other, they do things for each other, they fuck and move on about their healthy couple ways. So the action of "quantifying" already signals a problem within the person who does so or of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:07 PM
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It probably depends on the person, I could see someone thinking maybe they aren't doing enough in bed to keep them satisfied, as much as someone who just doesn't care, maybe he'll even tag in on it. But honestly, this is probably no different for women, some I know feel insecure about it for the same reason as much as some just don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:01 PM
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Considering that mating is a phenomenon observed in many different species, love and longing for one is probably one of the biological mechanics to drive us into mating in the first place. Which obviously is natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:21 PM
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Yea, feels good to be a gangsta tbh. Every rep of my bicep curl is fueled with the hint of thought that a woman could never
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:56 AM
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What you're calling "intuition" in nuance is their tendency to sense the abstract aspects of socializing such as body language, expression and tones. Generally women tend to have robust sense of socializing, dictated by societal and environmental influences, they are just taught to be more social and they have innate tendency to be more social. This isn't to say that it's something exclusive to them as if a man was raised in those exact conditions that lot of women are, they'd probably be just a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:49 AM
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I would say so, just for the simple fact that when we tend to look into morals the usual outcome is that there is no level of materialism that should come over a human life. For example, prostitution. The defense of it can allude to lot of different points, usually comes down something like to having a child to feed, as a last resort, as the only option available to sustain life, and some other silly ones on this sub. I'm not even arguing the validity of such arguments, all I'm trying to give at…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 10:22 AM
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The real question is why does it even matter? Does it somehow makes you feel wronged as if they shouldn't be wearing whatever for whatever? Or is it your feelings about it that's supposed to be dignified and validated? Real answer is it is all of them, there exist all kinds of people including girls who wants to dress certain ways to catch attention, girls who dress certain ways because society encourages them to, and girls who wears for the comfort. What about this changes anything to you? That…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:51 AM
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No, the word holds negative implication to most people, which is probably one of the most valid ways to call something objective. You can call the moon a "Shaksisaiyah," most people call it the Moon. Most people use the word whore as an insult for a reason and it is communicated that way for a reason. But "it’s reality through your own lens" really explains a lot as to why some people end up in shit like RP. Live your truth queen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:17 AM
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It has nothing to do with pc, it's you literally defining every possible women you'll ever come across as a "whore" without having to meet them that makes it the problem LOL. I mean let me ask you, how many women out of approximately 4 billion women in the world have you met to generalize that that's how most women are? Let's say 50% so 2 billion. Or even more generously, how many out of approximately 125 million in US? I'll tell you the answer, your experience is near null and will never even b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:56 AM
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No pills are its own philosophy because it's just a collection of ideas that are already found billion times before in society, with extra sprinkle of shitting on women. RP for example, make money, look better, act better, whatever RP preaches, it's already a common sense that such qualities define success in life. None of the tenets it spew are actually original ideas. Therefore nothing about it stands out aside from the fact it validates feelings of bunch of losers who are touchless for one re…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:20 AM
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No way you'd hear pillers utter those words, their whole shtick is to mimic someone who can convey charisma by acting as if they have it all figured out, keeping their cool and "logically sound," while it's all a cover, this sub for very painful example LOL. And surprisingly lot of them know enough about how small dogs bark the loudest, so they try not to be seen that way. I think its a phrase is mainly relevant to girls, probably because there's a remaining image of tradition that women were de…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 08:58 AM
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They won't ever believe it because the real core of their ideology is serving as manlet pacifiers by telling them how bad women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 06:29 AM
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Before RP was a thing, "blue pill" was never a thing it was just default state of being. The terminology is exclusive to the RP, near baseless ideology that manifested by amalgamations of manlets and incels who are bitter and angry about their circumstances with women. Seriously, their so called "belief" is so flimsy that even they themselves don't have an agreement of definition. Blue pill is not a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 06:27 AM
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Kinda relevant because people who displays the trait mentioned in the post in my experience, also displayed this one specific thing. They have the tendency to stress on emotions verbally, they either by action or words obsessively talk about emotions. These types of girls are trouble because when they talk about being emotionally understanding or feelings oriented, what they really mean is that their emotions and feelings are what matter the most. There's a difference with women who are mature b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 06:19 AM
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Who the fuck even says that, women who says that and the men who believes it are all insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:25 AM
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Considering people do it to stay healthy already, yes they would, why would they not? Again, looks aren't the only benefit there is to working out. If you really want to maximize your chances with women, try becoming comfortably in your skin, while working out and making money or whatever, instead trying to solely focus on what they think about you LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 03:24 AM
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No? Why would being in better health be for anyone other than me? Sounds like you're the one in fairy tale lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 01:34 AM
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So being healthy, being fit, isn't for your own good? Even looking better IS for your own good, that should be the focus, not what other people thinks of you from extension. I workout and eat healthy for my own benefit of feeling healthy, sure I look better as a side effect but certainly not a goal. But I have a suspicion that you're probably very young, so keep in mind you're gonna be with yourself until the end, people will come and go.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:34 PM
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Since when did self improvement involve what other people think of you? It's so weird to think that one wants to be better only to be viewed better by others. You work out, you look buffer, your body looks better and you're healthier, that's just good for you. Work out is also great practice tool for pushing yourself which is another good and imo a necessary trait. Money, looks, whatever, I don't think anyones ever going to be guaranteed feeling of achievement and success if their goal impinges …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:52 AM
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Few ways to make sense of it at least in perspective from a man myself. He's always had some sort of suppressed feelings for you. After divorce was of course a convenient time. Was it an attempt for a callous rebound? I can't say. It's possible that he's never seen that kind of support except from his wife and family. In which case, interpretation in his perspective based on that experience can only be that you showing that kind of support made it an intimate case. It does sound weird that men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:31 AM
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The one where it keeps her eating to obesity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 09:41 PM
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Commitment stems from the fact that usually a relationships spoken with monogamous assumption, commitment is required from both sides and entitlement of it given to both sides, just from the fact that it's a monogamous relationship. If for some reason a woman is withholding sex under usual cases of relationship, then most people would agree that it is a justified reason for the man to leave, thus no longer required to commit. But if it happens so that there's already been an agreement that there…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:43 AM
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No women will say those things because in general eyes she'd look absolutely insane. Insane women might claim that and I'm sure you've, what, 10 youtube videos to back that up. But keep in mind there's about 350 million people in US alone, and 10, 100, 1000, even 10,000 is a mere fraction. You don't know most people, and the speculation such as this is probably more telling of your feelings and outlook to the world than objective reality. You'll come to see it isn't really all that. No matter ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:17 AM
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It does happen and I believe, the better looking the guy is the more likely. However, I think usually guys level of that kind of physical attraction are very rare and therefore it still is a rarer occurrence than not. On the other hand, I've known girls who expressed their frustration of not being able to approach the guy they like, and it's usually about hoping that they just like them back and make a move one day. So it will make some things better if they learned to approach, but women in gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 05:48 AM
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That has always been the case. Every RP preachers, all telling them men are victims of the society and shitting and blaming women so these inferiority complex ridden manlets who are bitter about their terminal virginity and loneliness can feel validated of their negative emotions and biased opinions about women. It's no coincidence that RP is synonymous with misogyny, and it's literally feminism for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 12:28 AM
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I'd have no problem in established relationship and people going 50/50 is usually a first date kind of scenario, because usually they don't know how things will turn out with the other person in which case they don't want to feel as if they just wasted their money, and women now days can afford just as much as men. In fact I've known girls who prefer 50/50 as a no strings attached type of deal, and I don't really see any connections between 50/50 and feminine or masculine capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 12:17 AM
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Sounds like that's the Briffault's Law, not RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 06:43 AM
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Referring to tradition though, that's what men are by the definition of society. They must be daring, ambitious, fortified, resolute and poised, at least more than women. At least in my experience, that's something that is still expected of men, they rarely if ever want to approach and still rely on hints like breathing in their general direction from a mile away. The point being that they still want to be approached. But this also implies women are still willing to play that role of ones being …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 06:39 AM
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LOL if I had to rate my sister it'd be in negatives so maybe OP isn't lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 06:28 AM
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If that's the argument you think I'm making you need to read it again. None of what I said addresses WHETHER if women are certain way, it only points out how RPers see and demean them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:32 PM
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Right, really respond nothing to what I've addressed as a counter point to your post, and just make your own assertion. You really are doing the service for TRP here buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:25 AM
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I don't, it's in response to the comment that I'm responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:08 AM
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No I do not, at least not in the extreme sense of an average guy dating a homeless woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:58 AM
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Nope, as it stands the core tenets of TRP claims that men are valued for their materialistic capability and women are attracted to it. You'll convince me when I see RPers call men hypergamous and materialistic, but even then these words being used towards men vs women already refers to a different quality. This is because those two are entirely different frame as materialistic capability in society as we have it is not a trait to be shamed, where as selecting a mate, aka gold digging, on the bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:22 AM
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Nah, because by claiming that women are naturally hypergamous, it's already lacing that they are materialistic by nature, which is a characteristic that is negatively seen by society. Just look at this sub and RPer posts, it's all about "logically breaking it down" while the underlining is just shitting on women. At core the advice that RP gives is already advice that's been given billion times over in society. That means there's only one characteristic left to stand out which is them implying w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:04 AM
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Yea, some people can afford options that others don't have. Fact of life, truth we all face sometimes, it won't change though it's ok because that's life
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 06:01 AM
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As a Korean native, I can confirm and agree to what you're saying, though the interpretation of pay gap is still open to interpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 06:10 AM
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Yea, money and status by itself isn't. It's the fact that it potentially speaks to the capability of person that it's sometimes interpreted as an intimate characteristic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:15 AM
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Some girl in highschool wanted to have sex out in the woods next to the school where all the cool kids hung around at the time, I said no and she called me an asshole. Another instance was where this girl I knew just by association was insistently touchy and huggy with me at a party, in front of her boyfriend at that, while I was absolutely plastered. Sometime went by and one of my friends asked me if I was going to fuck her at which point everything snapped into place. I just started distancing…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:49 AM
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The second study is based on population of "Dejen townnship" which I can only find it to be in Ethiopia, with a sample size of 430 people. I really doubt he read any of these himself, he just vaguely referred to it probably to justify a belief which he himself can probably recognize questionable at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 05:13 AM
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It's because what it implies rather than what it is. I believe it is probably an accepted notion all across the board that women to a degree seems to take in material capability in their equation of choosing a mate. But is this because they have innate drive towards owning as much of material as possible to fulfill some sort of void from daddy issues they have? Or is it other interpretations such as they're looking for a mate who can sustain the lives of the family? In fact, such notion is so de…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 08:52 AM
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I don't think what you're describing is self improvement. It'd be called improvement for better chance with women if they're only doing it for girls. A genuine self improvement imo is a philosophical and shift of a person's view on themselves and their life which can include working out or making money, but they are never the goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 09:00 PM
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There's lot more things you can communicate within minutes of cold approaching than you'll ever be able to through dating apps. Demeanors and gestures, body language, personality, tone, everything is lot more visible and therefore possibly be an appeal factor than you can ever possibly convey with pictures and texts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:33 PM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:02 AM
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Well yea because we were talking about female circumcision that's really only found in small cultures of Africa. Unless I'm not aware it's very popular. But if you want to relegate 1/3, a pretty significant number in terms of population representation, a small subset then you do you. Kind of ironic that you'd say they're small percentage of the world, while mentioning figure such as 1/3 lol.
/r/MensRights01/05/24 08:07 PM
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I mean sure, but still doesn't mean that it bothers or hurts me lol.
/r/MensRights01/05/24 06:36 PM
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I mean when one's making dumb arguments such as eyelids to foreskins, I just find it to be dishonest and politically charged in which case of course I don't flat out just want to accept it. But I agree, there's no reason to really just take it.
/r/MensRights01/05/24 06:34 PM
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Yea, I mean that's sensible enough, if there's no real benefit of return why chop it off in the first place. And at the end of the day just taking it away from babies is still nonconsent.
/r/MensRights01/05/24 06:29 PM
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I'm not sure what I'm denying, there's just been no noticeable downside. It doesn't hurt, it serves its purpose to the fullest, it is literally easier to clean just the fact that there's 1 less step to it and it doesn't involve risks like infection due to foreskin.
/r/MensRights01/05/24 06:27 PM
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Yea you right
/r/MensRights01/05/24 06:22 PM
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Well said! I'm glad that you're not making a nonsensical argument such removing eyelids. I understand the equivalence in that there's no consent and that is problematic, but imo removing eyelids are such an ordeal at many greater magnitude compared to removing foreskins.
/r/MensRights01/05/24 06:21 PM
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yea, but unlike clit there's no discomfort from me having circumcision, it doesn't hurt or bother me
/r/MensRights01/05/24 05:53 PM
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LOL you might as well be one of 3 people who actually responded without any political charge behind. With that being said, no, I've only genuinely cared to ask what the problem is which in return what I got was mostly ridicule or, politically charged, and ridiculous claims about how foreskins are supposed to be equivalent to eyes. Which of it all I only cared to meet the energy they were approaching with, ridicule or ridiculous. I can assure you, my ex doesn't live in my head because in fact the…
/r/MensRights01/05/24 11:06 AM
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Well, I really can't imagine what it's like to lose a clithood so no I can't imagine. I can imagine that such phenomenon is a very small subset of humanity vs something like circumcision.
/r/MensRights01/05/24 09:12 AM
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I dk brother, sex feels great to me. So I don't know what I'm missing. In fact, I jerk off almost daily, have 0 problems. So what am I really missing without foreskin? Also I think you should really check on the hygiene part, there's one specific problem that foreskin can cause that without foreskin, is not a problem what so ever. It's actually mentioned in my post. Mutilated penises look like someone dipped them 1/3rd of the way in acid, their surface looks drier than the Sahara desert, their s…
/r/MensRights01/05/24 09:03 AM
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Well it's just that with foreskin, there exist an extra obstacle to clean it. I'm not really arguing AGAINST foreskin, I'm just wondering why it's a big deal. No because unlike foreskins vision is something that is shared across all our species, in fact it's shared with most animalia of kingdoms to come. I think it is very apparent why something like vision has way more precedence than that of foreskin. I know for fact I see through my eyes which is way more important than 5 minutes of grace I h…
/r/MensRights01/05/24 08:47 AM
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It is a weird claim for sure, that women who aren't attracted to certain people should be attracted to them. Down right stupid claim tbh. But then again prostitution doesn't solve the problem. I think most of lonely guys are lonely not because they can't get sex but because they're literally alone with no one to love them, which sex sure is part of but not the whole. Prostitutes I doubt are a solution for such.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:20 AM
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Ya, smart mommy me ooga bunga :)))
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:07 AM
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Not at all. As a guy who has experienced being both social and antisocial lock away, the main difference imo is the "feeling of masculine" is actually feeling of wanting to being seen as masculine to other people, or being called to the social expectation of being masculine as a man, which are all involved with social settings. And in my experience it makes perfect sense to me because I never actually felt as if I felt masculine when I was antisocial and mostly by myself. Because nothing about m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:22 PM
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Bro, what "particular" respect does anyone ever need? People just fucking live. Those things don't make you special to any degree. Ones not even looked down upon because they have those traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 10:27 PM
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The only reference I can think of is to Pareto's principle which states that 80% of outcomes are affected by 20% of causes. Iirc hearing that there are weird places where this seems to be true such as in economics but I do not know in depth of such claim. And it is ofc not to say it's reflective of 80/20 in terms of how its being used in dating/piller scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:55 AM
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"Female women?" LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 09:20 PM
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I dk about empathy, certainly sympathy. I'm a 6ft, 210lbs guy who regularly works out. Not so low body fat but generally I'm considered buff and actually helps me look bigger. But just being in close proximity to other guys who are bigger than me always makes me think what if these dudes just decide they'll fight me. I might have a chance, I certainly have a past so I know I can stand my ground, but just the imposing physical difference is glaring even to someone who is physically confident like…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 08:52 AM
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I see where you're hitting at. In the strictest sense of the social schematics they probably didn't have much choice. Something like having a job, having a meaningful capacity to sustain is more recent development. But that's like arguing in order to live you have to have a job. Sure, you can not have a job, realistically you're not going to live if you don't have a job. Which I'll add that men are no different in that they had to work to sustain those family in those traditional settings you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 01:03 AM
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Meaningful choice in what sense? Whether they get to reproduce? Choose who they're dating? I mean what do you think happened, were women just forced to reproduced and raped at all times to perpetuate humanity?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 11:04 PM
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Well congrats you might just be the first man on this sub to post about women in a not misogynistic way LOL. I think you're onto something with the post, but they're not all the same either. In the end there is not one formula to just surpass all the problems and to rely on. Some do prefer less manly, some do prefer less status, it's just all subjective and unique to individual, as your circumstances will be to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 08:30 PM
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Women are trying to resolve in most cases very real trauma and difficulty surrounding the fact that (and I don't say this with all the mean implications) we have to date our biggest predator. We have to make ourselves vulnerable in an extreme way to something which can and often does overpower us. This isn't about resolving some penis envy or insecurity or something. This is dealing with the realest fact of our lives, we have to seek love from that which can harm us very easily and worse....ofte…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 08:20 PM
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I thought it was an obvious satire
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 09:04 AM
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LOL trueeee
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 01:34 AM
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I wouldn't because I'm from a very traditional background (east asia) and I have lot of sense of pride in how I hold myself, and what I'm putting out to the world. Basically no dishonoring the famiry. Just being celebrity crush isn't enough as to me I only know them on surface level, while the SO I have already have deeper connection and shared experiences. The closest scenario to cheating for me would be if I knew 100% at full capacity, and knew the person very deeply and in belief that we're f…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 01:23 AM
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I'd never assume a girl is just up for sex based on what she's wearing. I personally think not-slutty to slutty slider bases on exposure of skin. I guess something that looks like a net that barely covers their skin in my head spells slutty.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 12:56 AM
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Blue pill isn't promising anything, blue pill is not a thing because it was THE default state of being, until RP came along and claimed some sort of division. And even now, RPers tend to call everything that isn't to the definition of red pill, blue pilled. Believe what you want man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 01:33 AM
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No, I never identified just how masculine or feminine a woman is in order for me to like her, and generally isn't reflective of how regular relationships work with exceptions to examples such as transgender which I don't find attractive anyways. I also don't particularly feel that I need to be treated some sort of ways to feel like the world sees me as a man. Such concepts are probably relevant to people such as RPers, feminists and incels who are preoccupied with such notion who are in need of …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 01:28 AM
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Aba and Preach and Healthygamergg.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:34 AM
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A man because I have way more chance to stick my dick in him than it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:30 AM
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It seems pretty straight forward that it doesn't have much adherence. Most people make connection to RP to facilitate their negative emotions, so lacing their subjective interpretation seems more than plausible. I suppose also why there's a difference in their so called "tenets" is because it's more based on words of their figureheads, people like FnF, Rollo Tomassi and whoevers, so it's inevitable that at some point different people end up saying different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:11 AM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:40 AM
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I agree, the bar isn't as high as some chronically online men want to make it out to be. With that said, there is definitely no downside on gaining either. The real problem with RP is that it's just collection of so commonly given advice laced with toxic generalization about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:36 AM
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I tend to think it's misogynistic because of the fact that all of the advice given by RP are already advice that's been given plenty of times without RP. However RP also preaches notions about women that degrades them. Take example for saying that women are generally hypergamous it's obviously a way to say that women are materialistic which is a trait that's with negative connotation. Sure you can find the same thing on extreme feminism, but that doesn't affect what RP is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:28 AM
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LOL is this generally aiming towards women of this sub?? Or is this like a rant? What's the context, like how popular is it even? I mean you're right, I just think that's a contention you'd take with the person who said that. But yes I agree, fuck bears I'm terrified of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:19 AM
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I believe the practical benefits in everything entailed in process of trying to find a girl, socializing, learning failure, working out, studying, getting a better job, has lot more to offer than just easily finding a girl. So I believe the struggle is worth it. And even if that doesn't necessarily guarantee finding a girl, I'll still be able to afford comfortable living, I'll probably have a decent boulder of a head between my shoulders, I'd probably be healty, all of them are still benefits so…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:02 AM
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Good point, it definitely misses nuances. I intentionally wrote it in rather extreme and disregarding of nuances, just to highlight the whole "agency" thing in a blank slate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 10:07 PM
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LOL i dk what about it is suppose to get me some pussy, it is not my intention and honestly I was expecting for it to piss off the feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 10:05 PM
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In my experience the men I was most interested in were too shy to shy to take things beyond friends without me giving them a signal. However they indicated to me that they were thankful I showed interest because they said it gave them the confidence boost they needed to pursue Yea, it is one of the nuances that I didn't add, just for the sake of the point, but definitely valid. I do think now days such mindset can help as more men are seemingly becoming withdrawn and reserved.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 10:02 PM
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Yea, but it definitely isn't just zero results, even now men can approach, can be and some are successful doing so. Maybe it happens less and less now days, but I still think the traditional view is very much relevant, hence the post. But this advantage is not free and comes with a cost. You have to grow balls, develop better social skills, grow thick skin, handle rejection over and over again, risk public humilation, and generally invest a large amount of time in approaching/pursuing women. I a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 09:57 PM
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Yea, ofc not all women would just reciprocate, I jsut think the agency already speaks volume in that they at least have a chance at it vs bounds of who you can go for.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:31 PM
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Lol good point, I've never heard a man being called a "pick me" EVER. Something about imagining guys being a "pick me" is hilarious to me honestly LOL. I do think there is an equivalent recent emergence in the word "simp." Which leads me to wonder whether if it relates to development of equality. I agree with you! I do believe more women should be upfront, and in the least of my experience, some women have. Though I must be honest, such experience has been eye opening in that most of those women…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 07:53 PM
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Yea good point. That's why I don't deny claims like women's biggest threat are men, because men's biggest threat are also men LOL. For some reason this gender politics tend to throw out all the nuances that need to be considered and it's so common to see "OHOHERGJSNKAGRE:NS YOU SAY MEN K:AWENF:WE:FNAWE IM MEN WE KINGS GKNWAGFNAWEF." Like bro we're not the same people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 09:45 PM
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Yea for sure, just not all. Something like perspective and traits they learned along the way probably sticks for while. Which is why something like RP is a problem, because maintaining a relationship is whole different set of challenges than just finding one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 05:18 PM
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Yea, there's definitely overlap, but just because they do the same thing doesn't make the same people with same "reason" or characteristics then obviously distinction is natural. I just mentioned two kinds that I've seen. No boy grows up thinking "I'm going to stop growing at 5'6", masturbate to porn all day, and hate women for no reason!". I agree, I believe to heart that no one really expects and want things to go bad for themselves. But I don't know what point your making with that statement …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:10 AM
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I think it's the combination between the ability to maintain anonymity on the internet rarely resulting to consequences, spread and echochambering of misogynistic ideas and rapid increase of bitter lonely men who are afflicted. I know it has been thing for while, but the numbers are actually surprising lol. On one hand, I do think there are people who genuinely care about men's well being and I suppose those are ones with good will. On the other hand, "men's rights" also has been a cover and bre…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 04:38 AM
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It's kind of weird statement to say that there's "bluepill at first," because before RP came about, there was no blue pill, blue pill was just default state of being and there's no actual precedence of RP. These terminology really exist exclusively to RP. With that being said, as my flair indicates, I was all kinds of pills before, including RP. I chosed it because the love of my life broke up with me and I thought it was offering me a way out. It wasn't. It gave me nothing but further my inferi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 08:46 AM
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I think its more of "getting what you can get where you can." Really, do you believe if those men were to have someone that's a real human that can fulfill such role, they wouldn't take it over the AI? This is obvious underlining that because men now days aren't able to find such person, that they are resulting to AIs. Meaning we know to as priority ourselves that these kind of AIs as of right now, are just fall backs. It will not solve the problem :) Even in distant future where AIs are advance…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 08:14 AM
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Not necessarily, I think it's one of those things where one could blame the environment/circumstances that made the person vs person themselves. And really, what's to even "blame" because at the end of the day it only matters if you want to change that or not. If that's something you want to change then you could try and reflect on it as you'd be the only person that can derive an answer as to what the problem is. Or if you don't care whatever man live your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 06:55 AM
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I think one of the biggest difference in men vs women when it comes to relationship is who they get to be with. There's difference in approach, traditionally, women get approached while men does the approaching. This results to women having "options" however, not always the option of maximum desirability. Meanwhile for men, they usually get to shoot their shot with their most desired, if they so choose to. I suppose purely by numbers, women do have easier time finding someone, whether that's som…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 03:09 AM
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Well said OP, it's disheartening to see both sides of the gender being at each other's throat, because I believe it's an indicator of afflictions on both side. And the blinded, one sided and inconsiderate discord they love to engage in does nothing but perpetuate and worsen the vicious cycle, so such balanced take imo is a necessary. Though I doubt it'd be heard in any measure for people who are already on far end, as it'd only call to their ego to defend their "brave victimhood."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:19 PM
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Yea, I think that pretty much sums it up. Whenever I did notice that girls weren't interested and weren't able to say or didn't really want to talk, I just thought they didn't outright say it because it was either kinda daunting task for them, or they thought it's a nicer way of going about it, but that's just my assumption. On very rare occasions, there were few who were giving it a mild go, so it's not nonexistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:30 PM
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Nope, imagine Henry Cavil was 5"2 looking the way he does. Would he still be attractive? Yes. Would he be as attractive? No way. It is therefore an implied scale and height is literally a physical look at that, so they are the same thing. I'd argue personality is mostly self driven and environmental, at least more than genetics. If you got any articles feel free to link it away. Even at that, the notion that people aren't malleable and personality is a fixed and immutable imo is pretty ridiculou…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:28 AM
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Because "just be chad or you're doomed" isn't even a practical or feasible advice. Meanwhile encouraging and being optimistic will lead to at least some motivation to improve as you don't see the world so hopeless. Improving somewhere, anywhere, is way better chance than no where.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:03 AM
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Looks and height might as well be a single category. Personality, you can definitely control, same for traits such as socialization and therefore charisma are all learnable. Plus you're ignoring the fact that different women have different priorities. The problem with these blackpillish proposition is that it's the most reductive and impractical view that's rarely actually helpful, even detrimental as it is nothing but discouraging. Obvious examples are all over this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 04:41 AM
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Is it not a point that is articulated by some women also? I swear I've heard few instances that they want a man who can lead in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:56 AM
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I think the problem is that "nice" is almost just a blend trait that lot of men kind of default to, whether if it's because they're doormat or are genuinely nice, it honestly isn't a trait that's so sought after. Plus I do think there is a connection nice and doormat, even if it's genuine, which probably is a turn off for most girls. I guess with that point, a nice guy should at least have a backbone. I tend to think "nice" is a few steps below good, and good isn't just about "caring," sometimes…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:45 AM
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As far as I can tell sugaring has the same connotations as gold digging, I don't know whats the difference aside that it's spelt differently
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 05:49 AM
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Feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 05:48 PM
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I think the narrative exist because there exist circumstances where some men do mistake women's generosity as something else. The real problem is with the perspective of totality. There exist nice women and there's been men who mistook that as something else. But obviously some women flake, there's no way that's not true, and there exist men who's been recipient of such. ALL of these are true, they coexist, they're not mutually exclusive that because one is true the other cannot be.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 05:43 PM
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Well more than looks, they're also judged by their personality, how they spend their free time, sometimes they're even judged for how they dress or what they like. I honestly think women aren't too different in the conditional love department, perhaps in different terms as men but I don't believe anyones just unconditionally loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:56 PM
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I agree I don't think generally most people ever even come to think about the woes of their own masculinity. Life sucks, but it sucks for everybody. People have more important shit to do than sit around philosophising about what their gender means to them. Shit that means they get the freedom to just be whatever they are without worrying about it. There are lot of freedoms in life that people can choose to delve into and live it the way they want with some limitations to the point where other ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:40 PM
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It's probably important to state exactly to what extent right? Because saying "some extent" only make it seem like it's aim to generalize. It's too much to generalize some millions of people by showing couple of videos as if that's correctly exemplifying some majority of women. And I'm not saying the interpretation is wrong, she imo does seem entitled and condescending to me too. But that's JUST her, and unless there are millions of unique individuals showing similar behavior, I think it's best …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 09:31 PM
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Because those men have misdirected anger towards women in general. Most of these ideas that "women are such ways" are ideas stemming from dogshits like RP that implies that women in general are immoral and therefore women are rightfully to blame. In tandem with retardation stemming from pursuit of becoming some sort of "hyperlogical aggressive sharp edgy lonely alpha male wolf of cold city night," of course they'll do nothing but rabidly blare why women are shit on reddit. What they really fail …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 03:57 PM
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I agree with none of these
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 02:28 PM
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You'll probably have a hard time maintaining relationship where there's an imbalance of effort between the two parties, not just sex. Obviously it is a problem if one side isn't able to or aren't willing to even try.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 01:59 PM
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"I have a boyfriend," "I only like you as a friend" and some other generic rejections because for the most part I think that they're trying to be amicable / diplomatic, and some girls in my experience were really nice about it at that. Though I would prefer if I did hear some honesty, maybe some of the reasons they said no to me might be something I can improve on in general, constructive criticism imo is way kinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:16 AM
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Well we know who watches FnF
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 01:20 AM
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I suppose anywhere internet it's always best to approach with grain of salt mindset, there exist all ranges of men and women and not all of them can be just great. Also 120k members, probably fractions actively participating so what you're seeing isn't generally applicable to outside, if that's of any consolation lol. Curious though what have you read that made you feel depressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 05:30 AM
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My experience with girls are outside online dating, but these all are great advice in general imo. Especially 2,3,4, they all help to ease the situations one may find in dating and not to get bitter. It's why something like social fluency and experience are told as important factor in dating and body language and social queues are probably the best thing to know with girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 05:22 AM
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In my experience girls were way easier to get along with, they were more accepting at least in face value and typically I found that guys were lot more standoffish if I was the new one of the group. With that being said, opportunity for new friends in general isn't the easiest thing to find unless you really do put yourself out there through hobbies, interests and social circles you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:10 PM
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LOL maybe some women in their 50's are finally waking up to their insatiability for bad boys. Yea with the experience I have now, I'd generalize that for women around early 20's, something like a man's social fitness and potential which are quite the opposite of antisocial traits, becomes valuable rather quickly. It makes sense when you take in the tandem with the fact that women generally are aiming for long term relationships, and so gauging for necessary traits that's supportive of future see…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:58 AM
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They're all very easy to find and available on Youtube. Fresh and Fit, Rollo Tomassi and Andrew Tate, they're all of the biggest names for RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:31 PM
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Lol yea I understand, looks like I was on the right type of "bad." Also in regards to your edit, I don't doubt it. I think most people who's had a relationship realize just how important personality is in a relationship. Even if they didn't, typically I think it's morally appealing that personality > looks. Edit: So if you want your brain's magnetic poles to shift upside down, check out some of the RP contents and how they describe modern dating dynamics LOL, you'll realize why I suspect such be…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:19 PM
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Well you have described two different types of bad boys, one who cheats and one who rides motorcycle. Former being the one who cheats.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:09 PM
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Mmm yea I suppose I didn't make that distinction, however I was addressing in former form of bad boys not the latter. In RP sense, the guys who can cheat and make their women feel unsafe IS desirable to women because in his action of cheating it's also displaying his capabilities to have and exercise options of other women, and the "unsafety" feel from such is a natural outcome that also keeps the woman dedicated and trying harder for his dedication. It is almost verbatim spoken as a point by on…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:04 PM
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It's typically some subpar RP belief about how "bad boys are sign of alpha male" and that women just aren't capable of thinking for themselves and are only slaves to their desires, therefore they only chase bad alpha boys because it's somehow desirable even though it's bad for them. As a past "bad boy" myself, I definitely caught attention from girls during highschool and early college, but I'm unsure if that was because I was a bad boy vs because I was popular, imo it's the latter and I must ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:54 PM
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It is unfortunate but women shouldn't JUST disarm their barrier because the threat is still real. Fact of matter is the variable of am I gonna get killed tonight resides mostly in men and they themselves don't know who's all good men bad men. There's never a guarantee that the next man they meet is or is not going to be that person. It's like playing Russian Roulette with way more chambers. The chance of getting a real bullet might be low, but if you had the option to just not play it at all, ob…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:14 PM
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I think it's an echo from traditional standpoint where girls were more valued for their looks because their usual path of life was to be good looking so they can get married. For men traditionally had more wiggle room based on how successful / financially stable they were. Which I mean, is still probably true just to lesser degree than before and I would agree that the trend will soon or later change.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 10:16 PM
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I'm pretty sure there's even commonly referred stats that shows such, but to bitter single men only consider some stats are relevant and not others lol. Also, lot of those men refer to their experience on online dating only, where superficiality is probably valued the most, where as irl there's generally lot more chance to appeal with personality, sociability, humor etc. Bu in my experience, difference of physical attractiveness between couples seems to just vary. I've seen couple where I though…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 10:08 PM
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I'm sure something like social hierarchy is a well accepted notion, but alpha isn't used along in the terms of leaders or group leaders because it's a specifically relaying to genetic determinism of societal hierarchy which foregoes notions such as parental / environmental influence which arguably is bigger factor than genetics. Especially in RP it has little to do with being a "leader" and has more to do with "chads"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:54 PM
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Because alpha and beta dynamics in humans isn't a thing. No scientists of any field has ever seriously put forward the notion and got approved by academic community because it's silly. TRP comes up with the most ass backwards way of defining it too, like sure take all the good traits in a man with a mix of traits like "aggressive," put it in a conceptual collection and call it "alpha" traits as if that proves anything LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:33 AM
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I believe RP is far from "the truth" but I digress. I guess few of the core tenets of RP such as high value man, work ethics, discipline and self improvement would cause lot, well all men to be at least physically, materialistically and visibly a well made men. I'm pretty sure there's some sort of economic theory or principal that says there's only so many people that can be the richest, I suppose it's also by common sense, so some sort of financial hierarchy would still exist. On the other hand…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 06:46 PM
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I think most people naturally has some longing for love, but with enough negative experience or convincing they can relegate it out of their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 12:17 AM
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It's really the same for beautiful women, there exist beautiful women who are treated different because they're beautiful, they're sought after by many guys, hell guys on internet just throw money at them and they probably live one of the easiest life ever. And I'm sure many average girls at some point may feel that it's unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 09:47 PM
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Well tell us than how does those stats reflect to reality? How does it work?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 01:21 AM
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Lol I really didn't think it was necessary. Plenty examples of posts usually implicating them of superficiality, or behaviors that mirror something of a gold digger where they are only willing to compromise for materialistic means, complaining about women's standards, ability to self reflect such as how even landwhales only want "chads," them being "too emotional" list goes on for PPD and plenty RP preachers like FnF and Rollo spew the same points, they're probably the origins of such points any…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 01:28 AM
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I think most of pilled men here hold some sort of prejudice or negative assumptions about women but that's because most pills preach such. RP preaches that by nature women are immoral or other wise conduct themselves in moral wrongdoings, blackpill assumes women are superficial to the core. Though I have seen at least a small subset of RPers who admit and relegated misogynistic parts of RP so I suppose there can be improvement at the least. But I'd argue at that point that's just self improvemen…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 11:40 PM
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Well somethings are vs aren't real, alpha isn't real but those traits are real and probably desirable for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 09:47 PM
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Alpha-beta dynamic in human beings has never ever came even close to being proven by any scientists in any fields and it will never be because it's not a thing. What you mean to say is those are reasonably desired traits to have in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 09:39 PM
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Nope. TRP is a recent phenomenon that was only coined as the "RP" last what, 5-10 years? You won't find the term "TRP" in history books because it's a recent phenomenon. I can label tradition as The Loser Pill, doesn't all of sudden mean that tradition that existed before the term is all part of The Loser Pill and that The Loser Pill has existed all human history, pretty brain dead logic ngl. Blue pill doesn't exist because it's another label RPers to describe anything that is outside or antagon…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 09:33 PM
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Well it seemed you were willing to share your experience as supplemental point to your claim, I only decided to share mine as sharing experience seemed to be in context. And ofc, it would if it was only based on teenage experience, however I did clarify that "and with the experience I have now" so even my adulthood has been proving that for me. In general there are lot of perks to be had by being liked by others. Though I agree, I'm not here to convince you based on my experience and I can see t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:28 PM
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I'm not sure what the first point is suppose to address. I'm not arguing that appearance is not a factor in dating, I'm arguing that people knew it was a factor long before RP. Again, a fat guy realizing they may do better with girls when they are skinner, buffer, is just common sense that people didn't need RP to realize. The motivation for this can be anything, and sure RP can be one, but those motivations existed long before RP anyways for the same reasons. Just as an additive, I had complete…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 01:08 PM
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TRP is actually more antagonistic to men getting laid because it makes claims that implicates women of immorality and drives the believers to hold prejudice toward women. I don't know if this has to be spelled out, but women probably don't like men who innately believe that all women are incapable of conducting themselves in a moral way or morally evil or both. Fact is that the good advice of TRP already existed LONG before TRP and does not belong to TRP no matter how much they try to make it th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:52 PM
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Imo there are so many unnecessary and invalid nuance you seem to be putting forward to validate the RP views. Take for example the whole thing about working out as dating strategy, it's so counterintuitive to common sense. Like say as a fat guy, wouldn't you NATURALLY think that if you're closer to some buff male model you see on internet or TV, your chances would be better in some regards? People already KNEW if they LOOK better they'll probably HAVE better chance and such notion holds preceden…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:36 PM
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What the fuck are you even talking about CLEARLY the context is the original post and how RP actually affects one's dating / sexual success, then obviously you'll have to talk about what parts of RP affects positively and negatively towards that point. Bro reread the original post, read the parent comment and read the comment I left. If you can't understand why I'm saying the things I'm saying, then it is not worth talking to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:23 PM
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yea you as well
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:16 PM
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Because that's the fundamental idea of RP, it not only preaches some generalized advice about self improvement that's SO COMMONLY found everywhere way before RP, but it also implicates women of moral wrongdoings or otherwise moral evilness. Do you understand context?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:13 PM
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It has nothing to DO with the word "patriarchy" the simple context here is that RP literally preaches ideas that implicate women of moral wrongdoing or otherwise moral evilness because that's how they earn attention from bitter lonely men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:09 PM
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That word means nothing to me. Well that's clearly the problem with RPer isn't it, when something on par to racism doesn't mean anything to you, it's probably why most girls don't like it 🤣 Yeah. Women fucking hate fit, confident, well-groomed, masculine men who have their lives together. I mean, how many women have ever wanted that? Sure mislead the point, obviously girls usually find it disgusting because it generalizes them in a toxic manner by implying most women are morally evil or at least…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:05 PM
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Nope, and I never seen it irl I believe it's strictly internet phenomenon for someone to actually represent something like RP. Maybe possible if they hide the fact that they're into something like "RP." Also I noticed in comments RPers are trying to take ownership of "working out, good career" but such advice existed way before RP therefore precedence before RP. For the reference there was a post showing a pretty buff, mediocre faced redpiller and asking women of this sub if they'd date the guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:52 PM
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Conveniently leave out the part where it's borderline misogynistic and girls usually find it disgusting unless they're desperate for superficiality lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:36 PM
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I don't think it matters the gender, I think most people given the chance to be with a beautiful person in their eyes or date "up," they would. But probably more men are chasing after such than women and honestly if that isn't common sense I don't know what is, I mean it's almost historical and has been a consensus that's been passed down centuries where men are chasing down some beautiful damsel lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 01:58 AM
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No?? Credible means literally that, credibility. Useless idiots like you wouldn't know about it because you believe your point of view is the ultimate point of view at all times without realizing just how shortsighted you are and so it doesn't matter the credibility so long as it's something YOU agree with. Kind of ironic that you made such point as "what I have personally decided to believe" LOL. So go head, find a scholarly article on Alpha Beta dynamics that's been peer reviewed and robustly …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 09:19 PM
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Yea, sounds like great traits to have in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:28 PM
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The former as women would let them know if there needs to be a rapport first or even are willing or not for such which can save a lot of time and emotions and sometimes undeserved entitlements lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:14 PM
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I'm going to uni and I would go out a lot but I really did not find almost any people that fit the common RP stereotypes out of all of the friends that i made. Good observation, RP really fails to reflect on reality while claiming that it is the ultimate reality. The real reality is that not everything can be worked out with some vigorous logical exercise they do on reddit constantly, especially if it's people because people aren't all robots who can be solved out into some logics. Also damn, I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:06 PM
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Therapy , mental health awareness are more normalized than ever. Yet the suicide rates are not getting any better, are they? Yea because they aren't in touch with their emotions and aren't willing to admit that they have a problem rooted emotionally so will deny to see a therapist LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 10:51 PM
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No credible psychologists, sociologist, biologists, neurochemists, and anthropologists has ever confirmed "alpha-beta" dynamic in human beings and they never will because it's not a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 10:49 PM
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Imagine this, you go out on a date and you show her this post you wrote on Reddit. She will definitely say "no spark, not enough chemistry and not feeling it," and not finding you sexually attractive will be part of it, but it won't even cut close to the whole reason why she said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 10:42 PM
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Really had to selectively read to pick out something to be critical about. Though I did also clarify there are probably atleast 2 visible types, in which obviously the "pinning blame" is the latter type, lazy logic spewer of reddit. I agree, self-improvement is one of the pillars, but it's not a misnomer to say that there exist RPers who just doesn't do anything but blame women because you even see it on this sub. And while you yourself can claim that women are not to blame, and that it isn't th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:23 PM
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There definitely is increase in women who are in some sort of adult work, but to call that the "modern women" as if that's the majority of the case seems bit misleading. Though I agree, being a woman in modern days is probably the best time to be a woman, just because in past they seemed to have gotten the shit end of the stick lol. In my experience, lot of women seem to want kids at some point of their life, in which case they'll probably follow some lifestyle that resembles a traditional woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 04:01 PM
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Well not really, matter fact I don't think I've even come close to meeting people that I've described. I'm saying that's how RPers tend to view women, while they still desperately want to get with them. Though I did believe similar things during my RP phase. FnF Fresh and Fit, one of the examples is the "80% divorces are initiated by women" stat, they constantly mention it on their podcast whenever the topics about marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:36 AM
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It matters how they see it imo. I dk about you, but believing that girls I desperately want to get with and be loved by are all manipulative, materialistic calloused evils who will never love me for who I am and the only way to be with them is by being some materialistically or superficially valuable dude, is a pretty harsh pill to swallow. Thankfully for me my experiences have proven that that's not the case. Regardless, whether if the RP points are misguided and invalid doesn't change anything…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:20 AM
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When you realize Reddit is a portal to alternate universe 👀
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 06:26 PM
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It's definitely both, however the standard being higher is rarely the problem compared to men giving up so easily now days. I think it has come to a point where it's becoming more common on internet where men just accept they're the victims when they really aren't. This is by far the most detrimental because now they assume the world is against them and they themselves can't change it and so they just whine, blame everything and everyone and rid of their own power to improve themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 02:52 PM
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Mmmm it's pretty reductive to only point at sex. The biggest thing behind sex is usually there's an emotional context which is love, it's in tandem with eachother. Anyone who's had sex with different people can tell you that sex with someone you genuinely love is infinitely better than ONS or someone who you're only kinda into. So I guess the argument that can be made is can people love without sex and I believe the answer is no because I believe it's part of our biology, both love and sex. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 11:32 PM
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We're on PPD ok, any worst claim or representation shown by one gender applies to all party of the same gender even if they themselves didn't say it. Get with the program!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:40 PM
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Or just find another attractive guy or less attractive guy but on par or better personality, fall in love like normal people do and try out for a happily ever after. Not every girls implied shallow whore for being born a girl lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:27 PM
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Even more reason to assume that they probably don't even know such possibility
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:14 PM
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Yes but in RPer's point of view, women would not be establish such in the first place is where I'm getting at
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:28 PM
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Yes you should clarify it for me but dont take the thought away from me
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:22 PM
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If that's what RP is about, count me back in I'm down to be used and taken advantage of like some helpless sex slave worth nothing by some powerful pussy powered woman in position of power. But seeing that RP is a basically copium power trip for afflicted and desperate men, I don't believe they even think a "Romanesque civilization" under women especially would even be possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 11:01 AM
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Autism seems to be weirdly trending now days, one of my ex who was clearly not autistic, socially robust and well adjusted with average intelligence, started claiming that she might be one after being balls deep into Tiktok for few months. For her and some others I believe it's to appeal to some quirky cutesie shit just like how people used to try to pass anxiety and depression as one. In other cases generally on internet it seems to be thrown around for things like calling names or for people t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 10:26 AM
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Womaning up
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 12:49 AM
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Bedroom maxxings probably the closest thing to being objective good LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:56 AM
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Yea, I don't subscribe to RP notions of anything, imo the points they make are only there to appeal and facilitate victimized mentality for men afflicted with inferiority complex. 3 is probably not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 12:16 AM
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I mean that's pretty much implied that you'd have to do it in some level of excess as the crux of the point involves sex addicts and pornstars. Is that not relevant to the notion of rode the cock carousel or riding the pussy train? And then again I'm not sure of the exact mechanics, if I had to guess it's some where between affecting the release of oxytocin during such acts, psychological reception of oxytocin and desensitization to it or lack of after excess release of such? Not too sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 11:56 PM
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I don't know why you're framing this as So, which is it? Does the past matter or doesn't it? as if it's the women on PPD are the ones directly contradicting themselves. Obviously the opinions expressed by different party and has nothing to do with whoever says what on PPD or Tiktok since they're different people. They probably disagree with each other lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 10:31 PM
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It sure is a convenient path to be able to sit back, blame everyone else and the world instead of putting actual effort lol. And yea, I believe that's why some men now days need to experience humbling hardships so they can be in a place where they can admit that maybe they really aren't shit in the bigger picture and they don't know what's up and down. I do agree that socialization especially is harder for men for those reasons. And because whatever examples they can gather is relatively localiz…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 10:25 PM
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I disagree with the redpills reasons for how it can affect marriage, however I believe it to be a thing for different reason. I can't recite the where exactly from but I heard that this is a phenomenon observed by pornstars and sex addicts where obviously they have lot of sex and so they get used to and desensitized to release of oxytocin which is called the "love hormone." Not only does it release when feeling love towards someone, it also releases during sex, and so eventually they'll come to …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 10:08 PM
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Yea, but have you also notice that those two claims are blatantly contradictory most people realize and probably doesn't come from the same girls? LOL it is sucha problematic approach when you take two obviously opposite opinions of within one category of people, put them into one bigger category such as girls and then bash them a whole as if that'd achieve anything. Not every girls the same 1 girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:57 PM
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Nothings ever 100% true when you talk in general sense about people, and for sure some girls will be ok if a guys creepy but hot. From my experience, lot of girls irl refer to their intuition and the guys vibe for first impressions which usually reflects from the guy's social demeanor and body language, which is what makes guys come off creepy in first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:45 PM
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Good way to catch a charge, "hey I'm attractive let me make sudden sexual advances" LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:40 PM
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Good point, that's why social competence is brought up as a factor but some people are willing to deny it to their grave. Without it, the hottest man can still come off "creepy" to a girl. Though, I also do believe they might get a second chance if they're good looking enough LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 10:15 AM
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Problem with the 100 dudes number is that when you scale it into realistic reflection, the number of 6'5 goodlooking millionaires or near ranges become extremely thinner in comparison to average. Because those extremes are way less likely to be the case, relatively speaking an average men probably never even come close to having to compete with an actual millionaire that is 6'5. I'm unsure of the exact number, but my guess the percentage of men who are near 6'5 ft is probably under 5% range, mil…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 10:07 AM
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The "submissive women" concept I think is usually referred by RPers as ideal image of women, typically claiming that a moral, or biologically / evopsychly "sound" women are suppose to be submissive but modernity has ruined those for women. But I've honestly never heard any real points other than that "for a man and woman to have a good relationship a man is suppose to be the leader and the woman is suppose to submit." Though I don't agree with RP's notion of submissive, I do think generally wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 10:52 PM
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good call lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 10:15 AM
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Not too sure what exactly is the image of these women you're really referring to, I'm just not familiar with it, but I'd have to imagine if they hate kind men, they probably just hate people in general. But as a guy I can't say I've encountered someone like that, and it's probably a very rare occurrence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 09:42 AM
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Yea, that's why social experience is important because they can learn quickly that being so hung up on logic usually make them look like losers in most social situations, not some "strong intellectual alpha wolf of cold city night" they envision per post LOL. But a lot of them lack social abilities and so they can't even consider something like social prowess to be a factor if not a completely inconceivable concept to them. Which in many instances I can't blame them for it, but they are to blame…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:23 PM
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No way, most TRP related posts here always frame women and dating to be some sort of ways without a hint of doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 10:46 PM
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I think the bell curve observation also points to that there maybe variables such as relativity of attraction that causes those outliers within the "average" category. I'd also guess that most person's "average point of comparison" is in fact themselves, not that everyone rate themselves as a 5, but for example for a 7 would likely encounter and consider some ranges between 5 to 9,10 and so it can be a sliding scale based on the person. So really anyone with a solid gauge on how themselves are o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 01:53 AM
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Would you shame a woman for leaving for more successful man?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:20 AM
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Don't you think that's a bit counterintuitive? If you want to specify the difference between the two, generalizing into one thing that it's "controlling," wouldn't really do the job right? Because again, there's at level at which a person acknowledges that willfully they can accept or cross a boundary of another persons which is the initiative of the person. Like by semantics, that is "control" but it is not "controlling" in the sense that the person is always relegated to someones boundary, bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 10:30 AM
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I don't know if it's correct to call boundaries controlling. I could see why you would say that as if someone liked someone else they wouldn't "test" their boundaries, however the control of one self still lies in one's self and they can conduct themselves any sort of way they wish to even if it meant foregoing the relationship with the person. Say a boundary was tested then it means there was an initiative from the other side that set off such boundary, so it is totally dependent on what others…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 09:55 PM
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Don't you think RP and manosphere is already a proof to man's space?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 09:12 AM
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Well, not all dates end in marriage or kids, and my guess is that stats would reflect that majority of dates have more chance in not ending in marriage. Any points about kids are basically moot point with that in mind and with birth controls having up to 95% success rate last time I googled, and even if there was a kid men are just as accountable for the kid under law as women. As far as we know it, having a man around is a best way for a woman to have a child. It's not an ADVANTAGE you just ear…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 08:57 AM
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All the points you're making are only one of the possible answers to questions that can have multiple different answers. Except the gorilla thing, we're not gorillas or living in a tribe first of all lol. Sure you can say "she didn't truly choose them" but also women are human and she could have chosen them and can just fall in love, but I suppose that's just too unrealistic for it to happen in the world if it hasn't happened to you. Raising someone else's "legacy" doesn't matter because it only…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:17 AM
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Considering someone who's a 40+ years olds now were in their 20's at 2000's, I don't think it would reflect currently modern women's standards in comparison. I'd say for someone who is in their 40's now it's probably little more likely that they're married or divorced, and still followed the traditional blueprints of "womanhood" when they were in their 20's. I say this because my guess is that it's in 2010's when there was drastic shift towards the modernity we see now days through the massive d…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 10:53 AM
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Something I've anecdotally heard is that lot of dating apps have predatory algorithm and are designed to lead users, specifically men, to paying for their app to see success. Which honestly make sense in the standpoint of the companies, they aren't out there trying to be matchmakers out of good will, they are there to make money. Also there exist inevitable bias that most dating apps are used by more men than women. There are definitely improvements that some men can make. But at least in terms …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:45 AM
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Lol do you think possibly, women also have sexual desires and needs or are they just all calculating whores that use everything they have to their advantage at all times?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:27 PM
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Well I guess the "beta bux" is a recent phenomenon that didn't exist before, was not at all relevant consensus when for people back then was probably a norm and lived it as it was just a normal thing to their environment. Even for RPers, it's an innate paradox because first of all no RP is done without some sort of generalization about women, talking about "what women based on 'evopsych' are programmed certain ways" and that by being successful the provider is how men will attract these generali…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:14 AM
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True I think men who conduct themselves in such way know and intuitively feel it but in an unarticulated way so it manifests in wrong and toxic way to fight for this "power" by trying to be control and be authoritative over others when really that power resides within them and they only have to keep it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:59 PM
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You've already missed your own point, how women are rating men has nothing to do with whether if men are fine with mid ass looking women, nothing about women's rating stats prove anything about men's stats on whether if they're ok with mid ass looking women or their own standards. And no, not "every" study I doubt you've looked at one study on your own let alone whether if you can even distinguish what is relevant or not. Just because FnF and Rollo Tomato said so doesn't make it true young blood…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 11:38 AM
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I don't know about specifically this sub but at least what I see from online, I think one of the reasons why there's rise in number of single men are because of standard that is unrealistic or isn't set with a reasonable self reflection. Also because they're so used to seeing egirls and IG models, they don't even consider the possibility of conjuring back the average women they themselves rendered invisible to their own eyes. How ironic is it that those are the people who are also blaming and sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 04:15 AM
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LOL wtf how much experience do you have with women to formulate a conclusion on their mind and train of thoughts based on what kind of kiss?!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:43 PM
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Lol are men just buncha big ol babies needing women to defend anything for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:16 PM
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Being attractive only because building a career is something you can work towards
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:19 AM
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Yea, they're just too tunnel visioned on bad examples on internet because that's all they see. Women generally aren't into totally shaming and shitting on dudes for trying their shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 10:28 PM
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I don't think it's a specifically phenomenon that happens with women, I've had plenty time waiting in line, in elevators and just generally in public where older men crack random ass jokes out of the blue or try making small talks. I guess it's just old dude thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 08:43 PM
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Lol I mean failed relationship sure, I don't think that necessarily indicates one's fuck up or quality of the person. And that's not the trade off I find the reason to be preferable, the reason is in experience because personally I don't think relationship is something easy. Plus I don't think there exist a person who's "no fuckups" ever in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 05:25 AM
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Yea, obv if they had like billion relationships it'd indicate something about them, but I think it's also unrealistic to think that you just meet someone and they're always going to be a perfect fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:52 AM
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And you my dearest friend, I simp you. Is what we're gonna hear when gen alphas grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:18 AM
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Honestly little bit desirable quickly put off by that they're probably also inexperienced relationship wise, since I'm guessing not many guys are willing to stick around when a girl isn't willing to put out for long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:09 AM
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And what points are you refuting that men say about relationships and marriage? The article talks about how porn CAN encourages self-gratification, destroys consumer's value, ED, social isolation and that it doesn't inspire goal setting. I have heard porn's impact on ED and gratification by other sources that I trust but I'm still unsure how it correlates, how those points take away from one's ability to think, judge and make valid input about relationships or marriage. Also change your subconsc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:21 AM
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Exactly what points are you refuting that men say about relationships and marriage? I'm just honestly unsure. If you mean the threats, yes I think lot of men who has their head on straight would probably also disagree and wouldn't conduct in that kind of threat, honestly it reeks of loser to even threaten someone with THAT LOL, but you also mention the study so I'm still unsure what your actual belief about it is. Is it the threats or is it the study? lol because if the men reciting the same or …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 01:05 AM
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Yea and the word radical existed way before and you're dismissing the common usage of the word to pull an "actualllyyyyy" about it. It's pretty counterintuitive to communication in general to expect everyone to only speak at utmost depth of every possible academic field per definition when there exist a common consensus definition that people use. Especially public forums like these where it's a guarantee that not everyone's a feminists or some sort of sociology degree. I mean yea, that's litera…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:18 PM
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Yea I've had my face for 30 years and been on the dry spell just as long, dk what's wrong :l
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:52 PM
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Cold approach is fine, some women will act like that while other women will actually be nice about it. Friend thing is lil different as if you start a friendship with the goal to bang the hoe, well it will shift the context and dynamic of so called "friendship." But if you catch a feel to a friend that's just natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:44 PM
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And what is radical feminism? Again obviously the scope of context isn't specific subsets of any feminism because I wasn't talking about specific subsets of any feminism nor was I speaking in regards to sociology or political science. So nothing really prompts for specific definition of such. By definition the word radical is synonymous to extreme, people understand what I meant when I said "radical feminist" in the context of how I used it that I'm describing someone who's extremely into femini…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:36 PM
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If you mean as in actual term that might be used in i dk sociology or political science then no. Though the word radicals commonly used synonymously with word extreme, which obviously is the context I'm using to describe. You know, the one's who are misandrists, commonly can be identified by blue hair screaming "down with patriarchy" while walking around downtown naked as if that's gonna solve anything ever LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:31 AM
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Not many people care about other peoples problem at all LOL. I mean since when did men were so violently in-tuned with women's problem that they're focusing all their psyche away from their natural operation to fix themselves in a way that is more aligned with women's problem? There exist understanding and being empathetic towards such problem and experience is one thing, how it manifest from guys and how that is going to be perceived by women are different thing. I can't remember last time anyo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:03 AM
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LOOOL this is by far the funniest shit I've read here, you legit cracked me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:59 PM
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Online misogyny stems from mainly the fact that chronically online men usually have next to 0 experience with women which grows their dissatisfaction and questions as to why, which leads to some sort of abstractedly or articulated negative feelings about women based on what they see on internet. It's like they got the question "why can't I get any attention from women?" And then they get hit with egirls simping over some 15/10 chad on some Tiktok or Youtube short and assume that it's because the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:35 PM
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I guess you've stumbled on such occurrence on internet which I'd like to remind anyone who are chronically online that internet rarely reflects a real life interaction and usually reflect an extreme level of minority in population. Something like an extreme radical feminiist is a very rare occurrence that's just easier to see on internet or through Tiktok. Generally you're chances of meeting a nicer person is way higher when it's a woman than man. Ofc I don't imply that men are subpar in such de…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:19 AM
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My best friends are guys, but I've also had pretty close friendships with girls before, and I'd say purely by numbers I've had more friends who were girls than guys. It is definitely possible and I know for most of them for me there was little to no feelings towards them except for like 2 girls. For me naturally regardless of gender most of my friendships just kinda drifted apart as we grew older. I don't know if any of them had feelings for me though one girl did get weird and pushed me out aft…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:59 AM
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Considering autism usually comes with some sort of social ineptitude, RP is definitely not the best option. It is obvious that it's an ideology for people who lack social experience and therefore lacking tools to view society with any level of realism or fair reflection and fully self absorbed view that has next to 0 consideration of others. The only consideration it does have for others is that "women are whores they're evil they're gold diggers" when in reality they're just bitter that they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:25 AM
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No, in fact I secretly feel incompetent and insecured about the industry I'm in which is definitely male dominated. A woman that I can share my struggle, and even help me get better I feel like is more than I could ever ask for in a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:01 AM
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Yea, and those guys take it as if it's some ultimate truth when it doesn't even come close. It doesn't change that it is very subjective a 117k (being generous) out of 350 mil subjective take atleast in context of US population, but the population factor is underestimated considering that Reddits popular with Europeans also. Basically, denominator is bigger than 350mil, while numerator of 117k stays the same which means the percentage of people holding such opinion in reflection to at least some…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 10:49 AM
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Probably be more straightforward in expressing their feelings toward guys they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:41 AM
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I think RP anything is problematic, because good advices that RP makes such as working out, discipline and work ethics are common advice that can be found anywhere and have been given way before anything like RP. But it also comes with making points about women usually in a derogatory manner or implications of how and why they're immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:58 PM
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There are very few valid refutations of red pill ideaology, only insults and ad hominem attacks I swear almost all RP believers are stunted to irony LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:23 PM
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I think it serve as SOME measure, because it does reflect as to what or just in totality do others see something in someone that is attractive. It's like.. a total 10 of a dude might not really chase after a 5, which I must clarify I hate the whole out of 10 rating shit, but there is some abstract level at which generally people agree that one person is more attractive than other. So in that case obviously the 10 has more value in attraction than 5. Ofc, that is not the WHOLE of one's value and …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 08:13 AM
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I'd argue that that's the biggest thing they're missing now days. Relationship, sex and love all kinda go together, I guess there's no real reason to separate them unless it's special cases like people who enjoy one night stands or casual sex. Which I don't have the stats but common sense says they're probably minority in numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:43 AM
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I've had exactly the same ideas floating around for while, though you articulated that way better than I'd ever have lol. That's why I hate RP and manosphere, it's so counterintuitive to what they want to achieve in the first place and they just get stuck in it by blaming women and the world as if that'd change anything ever. Something like working on their personality, themselves, and not being blatantly misogynistic gives them a way greater chance at punching above their weight class.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:50 PM
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Yes Captain Obvious attractive people exist, ironically you've proved my point as the problem I had with the word "Chad" is the attempt at adding the meaning that women are "minimal effort" towards men who are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:54 AM
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Oh so they only have the hive mind quality over men? "Chad" isn't a thing, it's a meme at best that bitter single men online took it up to extremes to try to serve as if it's some valid premise that girls are calculating whores and that men are victims. Not so alpha male of them very small dick energy imo. So whos Chad? Literally any and everyone that is a bf to a girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:03 AM
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Lol damn I was starting to doubt the hive mind women theory (HMWT for short) when I went outside and realized literally all of them were wearing in different styles with different shoes with different hair with different make ups with different cars with different preference to men with different cultures with different hobbies with different jobs with different personalities, you've reaffirmed my belief in hivemind women theory. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 12:38 AM
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Traditionally, men were the ones who worked or with career, while women would stay home and took care of children and what not. In this case, men for sure should pay alimony as they've been building a career or at least experience that can be seen of value in job market, while stay-home mom is probably serves next to no value and the financial impact for her would be devastating compared to the impact it'd have on the man. But I guess for "rest of his life" might be too much if that's ever the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:41 PM
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Probably in both, but more likely I don't see people who are unsuccessful with getting any kind of relationship be successful with casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:58 AM
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Nehh, those women the purpose is pretty clearly pump and dump, no men will take them seriously in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:18 AM
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Well both are good to have for sure LOL. Former matters the most for me
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:44 PM
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I think better way to put it is generally chronically online men are lacking the ability to self reflect. Because they will instantly get triggered by some sort of generalizing statement "all men are this and that." But red or black pills usually assume women to be some sort of ways and imply negative traits and faults on them, as if that's the holy grail to eventually earning them lol. Like do they not see how counterintuitive it is to rock some sort of toxic generalization about the exact peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:29 PM
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Don't see why not, for them if they are truly happily married, why not try to throw out some inputs that they think are going to be helpful? Or even argue and debate for what they think is better approach? After all happily married would indicate some level of success at least in comparison to desperately lonely and blackpilled. Not everyone operates under strict gains but then again I guess one can argue that at the tiniest microscopic level, they're somehow still gaining something like self es…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:14 PM
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Ironically this post would reflect part of the title about men having inflated self image, as this post seems to prove that you believe in yourself to have made correct and precise speculation about such a big topic. Even statisticians and psychologists would have hard time coming to a generalizing conclusion and would usually disagree with eachother even if there was one. I'd never trust my IQ to be that high or I have even the capacity to make correct diagnosis or speculation of problem that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:36 AM
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LOL the one and the only stat always brought up by RPers
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 05:36 AM
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It was very much internet phenomenon and the number of women that made fun of him probably is a minuscule fraction. I'd say that isn't the most accurate generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 07:49 AM
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That you don't need shit like RP to get anything in life. Those wisdoms were present in life before RP, it's not like before RP people weren't disciplined, successful, hard workers and all and in fact those specific traditions ARE what RPers refer to meaning it takes the precedence and have existed before RP. The problem of RP is that they blend the good and bad teachings of life into the one thing to consume, and this is problematic as it assumes the both good things and bad things to be true, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 10:21 AM
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The friend zone was created by men who usually tried disguising friendship as a means to achieve romantic relationship with someone and failed for various reasons, whether if they weren't confident enough to actually make a move, they weren't attracted, etc. Though there probably also exist cases where women do take advantage of this kind of situation for whatever self serving reasons but I believe this is probably minuscule in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:19 AM
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I tend to shit on RP but there are somethings that RP does get right and this is one of them, however I think it's articulated wrongly as the point of it should be not what RP preaches. The usual RP line I hear is that men should try to stick at all women at all times because... kings or natures or what have you LOL. Either way those kind of tendencies are not good blueprint for stable relationships. But it is still good to move on, for woman it can be a bother and burden and for man the longer …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 07:31 PM
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I think something like range of femininity / masculinity in a person depends on more than one factor. You can definitely be raised and taught to be one way, however there is also nature as you have mentioned. So my guess would be that most people have at least some mixes of both, and being on one extreme ends are probably rarer.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 07:18 PM
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I'm 100% sure you are incapable of making any solid points without ad hominem. Yea you'll "compete" alright. Actually, I'm 100% sure you are incapable making any comprehensible point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:39 PM
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I must applaud you, good job writing like a middle schooler with their first english essay. Spoken like a true sheep, I bet you have 0 clue where those numbers came from or read it yourself. Also what, F&F and Tate didn't preach you these "solutions?" Have you even READ the post? Kinda funny how much of a joke RP has to be for one RPer to contradict another RPer in their own post talking about how great the RP is Your friends, your mentors, your father, all those people you'd call "competition" …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:17 PM
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I've yet to hear anyone attribute their success with women to RP except for people who PREACH the RP. Those advices are given without redpill. Like yea lil bro? You lookin better, you in shape? You holdin yourself up in life and isn't a manchild? OFC girls are going to be way more receptive towards that man than the man who smashes his keyboard over League. You doin better in life but you couldn't take the advice "do better in life." I think RP is popular for specific group of men, men who are c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 09:34 AM
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I've seen cases where a woman seem totally content with a husband who'd be considered subpar in terms of physical attractiveness and vice versa so I guess it's not UNTRUE but definitely rare case. It's probably safe to say that most people do care for physical attractiveness at least a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:51 AM
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Yea, I think you are lol, but don't mind it I don't think I wish to continue this convo :) Best of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:15 AM
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Yea but just how much of those things carry over real life? If it was so real that women are just dying left and right and in fear of their life, they obviously wouldn't use online dating apps but they do? So what then are they just crazy and stupid and don't care what happens to them? NO, it obviously isn't as big of a deal and common as you're trying to make it out to be. Mean while there literally exist statistic for how men are getting shafted on these apps. So then it cuts down to what happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 09:35 PM
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No but with an overweight man for sure, everyday I have to put myself to bed and it is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:05 AM
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Everywhere, the amount of unfortunately structured faces of people who are gendered female I see around campus and walmart is pretty nutty.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 05:54 AM
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I mean call it whatever it still doesn't change that having some success is probably better than NO success what so ever lol. Ya they send you a shit message you block them, what's the big deal? What is the poison? Is it really THAT hurtful that some stranger talked about his dick to you online? I'd argue that's miles better than feeling like you're chronically ugly and forever alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 05:33 AM
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I think RPer would argue that if a girl needs to spend that much to look good, they're not worth dating in first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 05:14 AM
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Think about it this way, when you can choose from HUGEEEEEEEEEEE basket of fruits blind, your chances of picking rotten one is proportionally way lower. Compare that to an empty basket LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 05:10 AM
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I think talking to women "as people" is a good advice in a different way. When a guy is nervous / gets some sort of way talking to "the girl he likes" or his "crush" it definitely shows especially to women, vs talking to like they would to their guy friends there's less of that fidgety nervous anxious thing going on. And ofc women are not mind readers and don't know every thought process of every men they come across, probably why some women generalize it as "creepy." Friendzone is not a bad way…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:10 AM
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Claim that most guys in relationship are not valued for who they are, is probably a claim that is hard to substantiate and toxic not only for others but for yourself. Also, yea, men or women if they're dating someone who makes them feel bad, they shouldn't be dating them and most do not. If the feelings just neutral you might as well be friends and implies no real romantic feelings. Making each other feel good and appreciated, because you WANT them to feel happy, is probably a good premise for r…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 05:42 AM
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Based on the girl imo. I had a girl chase me outside the restaurant that me and my family were eating at just to get my number, she was giving me the death stare the whole time I was eating. I've also had a girl who basically told everyone at a party that she was going to rape me, but I think that she didn't know how to go about it, and given the state I was in, it was probably something along the lines of "I wanna bang him but it'd be a rape." Some girls who hasn't approached at all but looking…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 02:05 AM
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Not at all, RP has different attraction for different people. I could already come up with few reasons, they had shitty experience with women, they have NO experience with women, they have preconceived notions about women that makes them perceptive to RP view of women, they could be unsure what or how or who is masculinity daddy, they could even be strictly chasing after the recipe for success, they could be looking to fill insecurity by following the blueprints they are given. I could see why o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 01:58 AM
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It's different life, different challenges. It is one of the perks of being women that they can get laid easier, but if you were to align men and women's life in parallel, there are things that men get way easier than women. For example SA, not to say it doesn't happen to men, but equivalent case exist for women where a woman is chronically unattractive and out of shape and collect nothing but dust and cobwebs with next to 0 attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 01:18 AM
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