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Question For WomenMydragonurdungeon/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:12 PM
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It's kind of misleading to lump these all together, also most bi women are the kind who like find some other women hot but wouldn't date them. If you were right and women were such amazing and superior partners why is the lesbian divorce rate so high?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 12:55 AM
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Yeah the issue here is that she's recognizing chad doesn't settle for ugly chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:14 PM
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Women would pick the more well behaved guy if they had two equally attractive options but they would not sacrifice one iota of attraction for better behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 01:04 AM
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From observation is just as likely to be valid as experience, especially because peeps are likely to be biased about things which they feel personally effect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 05:43 PM
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An idea either stands on its own merit or it doesn't. The genitals of the person expressing it is irrelevant and it's sexist to suggest otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 05:37 PM
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Again, you're phrasing it dishonestly. It's not about rewards. Women just don't care about behavior if there's a lack of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 04:34 PM
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The better way to phrase this is, work don't care about good behavior. Let's remove the reward talk. Women simply value attraction over behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 04:08 PM
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And women do the same to men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 03:26 PM
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Witholding doesn't have an "if you feel like it" clause to the definition. That's like saying if I have a kid and I'm not feeding him it's not withholding if I don't feel like feeding him
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:45 PM
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I want to have sex with people I find sexy So you realize you can have sex with someone who you appreciate in other ways you just refuse to. So you could have sex with the guy who ticks all your other boxes you just refuse to. So this whole post is toast then. Men expect you to be able to lower your standards and still choose to have sex with them. You refuse to choose, you want to be a reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:15 AM
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You have sex with him because looking at or engaging with him makes your genitals react to him. That’s what sex appeal is. If he doesn’t elicit that feeling, why would I want to have sex with him? So you are just a reactionary creature with no free will? What happens if your partner is maimed in some way? When I’m 70, I will likely want someone who is around 70. I am aware I am speaking for myself, but the fact remains that it’s a mistake to assume old people don’t find each other sexy. I didn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:04 AM
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You're not making any sense. If you're in a romantic relationship with somebody, romance and companionship is expected. The idea you can just go "oh no we are in a relationship but I don't want to see you or have romance with you" is absurd. You're not making sense. You have sex with him because you like him and appreciate him. You think old people stop having sex when they are both ugly? No. Because your view on this is bafflingly nonsensical. You're acting like you can only do things in reacti…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:45 AM
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So, why would I have sex with or hang out with him? Because you're in a romantic relationship with him? These things are exactly treating him like shit. In a relationship withholding physical affection and avoiding him like the plague is mistreating him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:35 AM
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Why would a woman not treat her man well? Like the idea there is that you're making it obvious that you are settling for him on purpose? Why on earth would you do that? You're telling me that you simply cannot imagine yourself not treating this imaginary guy poorly? This is some wild shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:26 AM
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You're right, killing it is worse
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:27 PM
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And outlawing abortion is how you force women to remain pregnant when they don't want to be. That's what we're talking about, remember? Abortion? Not giving someone an abortion does nothing to them. Me not giving you what you want isn't force
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:45 PM
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We are not talking about rape. (not being forced to remain pregnant). Abortion has nothing to do with how someone gets pregnant. Getting pregnant is what forces you to be pregnant. Somebody not killing your child for you isn't force. They are doing nothing to you. Someone not doing what you want isn't force. Someone doing to you what you don't want is force. Rape is force, not raping you isn't. Killing your unborn against your will would be force, not killing your unborn for you is not force.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:23 PM
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You can't force a woman to be pregnant. If she has sex and gets pregnant, nobody is forcing her to be pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:17 PM
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I didn't claim otherwise? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 07:31 PM
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I didn't say anything about a system
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:57 PM
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So if anyone doesn't like you it's your fault? There's never been somebody who didn't like somebody for no good reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:56 PM
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How's that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:08 PM
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It's a moving target that frees women from having to examine themselves at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:48 PM
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Ah yes just pull yourself up by the bootstraps.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:28 AM
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Not all manual labor is back breaking
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 04:13 PM
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Please describe where in the process the back breaking occurs
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 11:47 PM
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Describe where the back breaking is occurring
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 10:49 PM
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Yeah, not back breaking labor
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 10:01 PM
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Doesn't look back breaking in the slightest
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 09:25 PM
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Back breaking to do laundry? Lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 04:26 PM
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I don't understand what this means
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:28 PM
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How do they know that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 09:34 AM
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If a man doesn't mean to neg he's not. Negging is intentional.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:57 AM
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Women have been conditioned to see everything less than worship as negging.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:44 AM
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It's not that men are wrong, because for that to be the case you'd have to believe that women dictate what is objectively good looking etc. Men and women seem to just see things differently. The same way that men can be happy with a sparsely furnished apartment, and a few buddies to have some laughs with. Men rate other men and women higher than women rate men and other women. So it seems men just see everything in the world as more beautiful than women do. It's kinda sad for women honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:13 AM
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I didn't ask!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:23 PM
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It's incredibly important to children and family as a whole
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:14 PM
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Why wouldn't you want to marry someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:03 PM
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You're attitude of if you are going to get married you need to be paid indicates society isn't doing enough to encourage marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:55 PM
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Society should be oriented towards encouraging marriage and relationships, i don't think he's suggesting that we literally pay people
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:44 PM
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It's not wisdom whatsoever. It's like playing a basketball game and going "unless you stop defending me I'll take my ball and go home!" It's juvenile nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 04:06 AM
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Being settled for is a yes or no situation but that doesn't mean there are not degrees of settling. 99% of people settle because they can't get the most attractive scarlet Johansson prime Megan fox hybrid Natalie Portman that is their ideal. And less than ideal is settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 09:17 PM
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I don't feel like arguing emotional logic. Yes it is. By definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 09:12 PM
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Not in those terms but you have seen women say things like "i wouldn't want a man with no other options because I don't want to be settled for" which amounts to the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 08:29 PM
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That's literally how they complain. "If i can't get what I want I'll quit the game!" Is complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 08:28 PM
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When women talk about not being treated like Stacy they say they would rather stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 03:52 PM
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Well it is shallow. It's just understandable
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:23 PM
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They are the ones who claim they can read men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:51 PM
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I mean, if a woman doesn't want to have sex because she's mad at you for x vs doesn't desire sex at all is really irrelevant. End effect is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:28 AM
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It doesn't change whether or not it's witholding by definition though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:08 AM
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Due or desired. Do you know what OR means?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 08:31 PM
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Yes? Not wanting sex is withholding sex. Are you seriously arguing that if you don't want to give someone something it's not withholding? Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more withholding /wiTHˈhōldiNG,wiT͟HˈhōldiNG/ noun refusal to give something that is due or desired. The definition of withholding doesn't care about whether you do or don't want to give something. It's withholding regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 06:55 PM
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I didn't say they can't just not want sex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:31 PM
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This is some nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:19 PM
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Are you simply suggesting there's no such thing as objective?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:13 PM
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If we can't agree on language we are going to keep talking passed each other
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:11 PM
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Who said anything about owed or on command?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:08 PM
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Be we must agree on definitions in the most objective way possible. "Im not withholding sex I'm just purposely not having sex because I don't want to!" Distinction without a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:07 PM
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No you're suggesting that men having homosexual men interested in them is the same as a straight woman having straight men interested in her. It would only be the same if men could choose to be gay
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:06 PM
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This is literally completely different. You're using homophobia. Women are straight not chadsexual
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:03 PM
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You can't choose to be gay. This is very homophobic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:18 PM
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Not wanting sex with your partner when there's a controversy is withholding sex im not understanding. Seems like one of those things women insist is different because it feels different to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 07:27 PM
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Women don't restrain their sexuality when they are attracted. They just find everyone and everything in the world uglier than men do
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 01:51 PM
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It's an example of the exact thing I'm replying to
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:36 AM
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It really doesn't. In fact it holds men to a higher standard because women are seen as being guidance
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:17 AM
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Of course they were America was very religious at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:02 AM
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Sorry. Women seem to like to believe that all men had affairs back in the day, but we don't have any stats which prove that to be the case. Most men worked ungodly hours in factories and mines etc they didn't have the time to have multiple affairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:57 AM
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There's zero evidence that this was the case. Women seem to like to briefed it is, but we have no stats on that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:53 AM
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You should read more about human brain and how much of an animal we all are. What our group thinks about us is important for our well-being because it used to be one of key conditions of successful survival. This is what I'm referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:16 AM
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I didn't say anything of the sort. Please point out where i did and actually respond to what i did say instead of what you imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:01 AM
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It isn't a basic need to not use higher thought in favor of acting on instinct. We should not say it is, we should not glorify it or sanctify it. When we can't overcome our instincts we should feel shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:00 AM
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It very well could. People value that which is scarce. Men who have an abundance of options know they can just get a new girl to his house the next day.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:43 AM
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Cool really don't care don't understand why you think this conversation is about you. We are discussing men and women generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:42 AM
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We have largely grown as a species to the point where that's not really the case, especially to the extent that women engage in it. Humans in modern times need to adjust to life in modern times and not just behave like animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:40 AM
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No we don't, I want someone who has the option to be promiscuous but chooses not to That's what you want ideally but that person doesn't exist. A woman being a virgin is attractive to men because no other men have had her not because she had some willpower.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:37 AM
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A man having options does not make him more loyal nor does it mean he's going to end up with his ideal woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:34 AM
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So you like a guy he's perfect you get along and you're attracted to him etc. But you find out he has no other options and you're suddenly not attracted to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:33 AM
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Men limited themselves to one woman a piece when they were in power despite that not being their natural inclination. Are you saying women are not able to overcome their instincts as men were? Or that they could but they don't see the point to not behaving like monkeys rutting in the mud?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:31 AM
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By every metric women are less diverse
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 12:31 AM
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Its based on statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 12:16 AM
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This isn't based on observation though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 12:08 AM
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AI Overview +9 The Greater Male Variability Hypothesis (GMV) posits that males show greater variability than females in many physical and psychological traits, including intellectual abilities. This means that, while the average male and female scores may be similar, there will be more males than females at both the high and low extremes of a distribution. In essence, it suggests a greater spread of male traits, leading to more "exceptional" individuals (both high and low performers) among males…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 10:22 PM
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I think the more extraordinary claim is the idea that there is no variance in variability.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 08:07 PM
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I didn't say there wasn't variety. I said that they vary LESS
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 07:15 PM
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The only stats I would call into question are surveys. Both men and women lie on surveys. But the stats relating to IQ etc are not self reported i don't think but if they are then they at just as flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:28 PM
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Interesting isn't relevant. It just means there’s a wider spread in certain traits, not that women are all carbon copies. I didn't say women were carbon copies just less variable. More similar to men. The whole post is suggesting this is not the case but we know it is. We can't use anecdotes or speculation to ignore the stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:27 PM
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What stat did I say was fake?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:25 PM
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Yeah I didn't mean to imply there's no ways in when men are similar just that even when men are similar it is less similar than are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:17 PM
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You can speculate about why the stats are the stats but thems the stats. And yet, so many men fall into a set of stereotypes themselves. What are you basing this on? Because it seems like you're arguing that we can ignore the stats in favor of your anecdotal point of view which I'm sure you can see why that is problematic
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:16 PM
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Sure in that specific category men are similar, but why are we only considering that point category?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:04 PM
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I'm talking about statistical facts. By every metric men vary more. IQ, height, hobbies, income, education etc. What are you basing your opinion on?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:02 PM
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The idea that we cannot generalize anything is just absurd. Course there are trends, and by every metric, women are more similar to each other, and less variable than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 05:58 PM
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Completely speculative nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 05:16 PM
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This only works if you assume employers look at a highly qualified woman who is the best candidate for the job and goes "but yucky vagina!" If a woman is the best candidate for the job, why would she not get the job? All dei and quotas do is mature it so that employers cannot choose who they employ solely based on merit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:55 PM
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Gender and dei quotas are preferential treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:58 PM
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They can do so on their own merit. Why do they need preferential treatment?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:10 PM
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Effort doesn't necessarily translate to success.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 05:39 PM
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Well you don't really know the follow through you can't predict that kind of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 05:27 PM
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I don't really understand the question because if it's medical she's still got a mouth and a butt why can we not try alternatives?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 02:16 PM
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Or, women be crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 04:38 PM
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Why are you making things personal? Did something in my comment make you feel attacked so you felt the need to attack me?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 07:16 PM
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Examining how much you value something isn't pretending people work in a way they don't? Yet again, whether you feel it is useful or natural, examining what you value and to what extent is useful what is your emotional issue with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 06:10 PM
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This is just a false binary. You're oversimplifying the paradigm to the point where it sounds reasonable. Men are saying women want perfection to an extent which is unrealistic. You simply really passed that point to make it that women are just some innocent angels who simply want men they are attracted to. The issue being pointed out is that the standards of what women are able to be attracted to are increasingly unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 06:04 PM
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How is trying to understand yourself arbitrary?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 04:51 PM
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He's asking you to do that though. You don't think it could be useful to understand and actually reflect on how much you value these things? Women seem content to just feel their way through life and get mad when men suggest they actually consider things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 04:14 PM
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I'm not comparing being in a relationship to food I'm illustrating the concept of choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 03:36 PM
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Women are heterosexual (for the most part) not chadsexual. Homosexuality isn't simply, part of the group I'm attracted to but not fitting my criteria for attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 03:34 PM
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An option you don't like is still an option. If there's 5 colors of shirt there's five options even if you don't like seafoam green
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:56 PM
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It's still a fallacy, yes. You believe you got the best because of your methods when it could have been in spite of. And I'm not interested in discussing your personal life. This sub and conversation isn't about you and that's likely why you can't discuss things generally you seem to misunderstand that you can't base everything you think on your own experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:54 PM
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Just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:50 PM
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Just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:49 PM
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Nope. You can't choose to be homosexual and it's pretty homoph9bix to imply you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:46 PM
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That logic doesn't follow. It's them wanting the best of the best which is causing them to be single. The cause of their desire for the best has the effect of them being single. That does not in turn cause them to be deserving of the best of the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:40 PM
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This isn't about what one considers an option they are factually objectively options regardless of if you consider them options.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:39 PM
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Men want them in spite of them being bad options.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:13 PM
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37% consider themselves single is what he said, this does not mean they are not actively dating or trying to find dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:10 PM
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Most women are in a relationship or actively dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:09 PM
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Women on this sub say they are overwhelmed by dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:07 PM
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Options you don't like don't cease to exist. If you have the choice of spaghetti or pizza for dinner you have two options. If you don't like spaghetti it doesn't cease to be an option, it is just not an opinion you're likely to choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:06 PM
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It's counter intuitive because that's ridiculous what makes them think they deserve the best of the best?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:05 PM
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You seem to not even be addressing what's being said
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:04 PM
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Women are "lonely" due to their own absurd standards. Men are lonely because they actually have no one interested in them. Very very different situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:51 PM
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You're not making sense and you bringing up the jews is very weird
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:25 PM
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Men do that. Then women bitch about being left out and invade the space. Next. This is what he said. Then she said to get a different woman. He didn't say his woman was doing anything. Just women generally. So how is telling him to get a different girlfriend helpful?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:15 PM
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He didn't ask for advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:03 PM
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He's talking about men generally while you are giving him individual advice. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:38 PM
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Take your own advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 10:25 PM
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What's the insult
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 01:50 PM
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She just wants to be mad and purposely misrepresent you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:50 PM
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* I don't think women understand at all how this works. If he's not watching his eating he would not look like this. His arms look reasonably large, there's no pooch in his belly, he's not fat. The lack of cut definition is not an indicator that he's fat, you don't get that cut definition until you're below 15% body fat *
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:18 PM
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I don't think that's common
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:03 PM
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<image> He looks to be at around 15% according to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:43 PM
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Yeah but why would we compare him against those who actively attempt to look good and leave out those who don't when we are considering what percentile of man he is in terms of body fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:40 PM
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Where are you seeing chub specifically in that picture?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:40 PM
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Absolutely not 25% you aren't seeing those cum gutters and you're getting flab
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 03:15 PM
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Contextually he's comfortably in the top 10 to 15 percent of men in terms of fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 03:15 PM
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Relatively speaking he's in the top 10 or maybe even 5% of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 02:55 PM
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You can see the definition of his cum gutters for Christ's sake that dude is around 15% body fat. Describe to me what is fat? He doesn't have a gut at all. Just the lack of defined abs?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 02:44 PM
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That is not a dad bod that is a very fit man
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 02:40 PM
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I think we are defining options differently. I'm defining it as partners interested in dating them. Not simply members of the opposite sex existing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 10:08 PM
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I didn't claim that women are crazy nor that their craziness was what limited men's options. I claimed that men have limited options, and that their only option is a crazy woman often because despite many non crazy women existing, because they don't have many options to begin with. If one woman likes a guy, and she happens to be crazy, the options are either be with the crazy woman or be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 09:50 PM
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I didn't say anything about myself why are you making things personal?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 08:39 PM
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Yes it is true? The education system does not directly generate revenue in the same way as a sports team does. You can speculate the amount of money that they generate but it's very hard to put a number on it. There are a lot of college professors and private school teachers that do make a lot of money. And why do you not do your job for free? Same reason professional athletes don't
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 08:02 PM
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Men have extremely limited options. It's often either crazy bitch or forever alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:59 PM
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It's about the letft's infantile sensibilities. Vance is pretty bulletproof in terms of criticism so they photoshop him looking ugly and then make fun of the photoshop they made. Utter childish nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:55 PM
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Why would they be paid that much? Professional sports players generate revenue which is comparable to what they get paid. You don't just go "i think I should be paid millions!" You can negotiate higher pay or decide not to work that job. But you're not a victim for choosing a low paying career and accepting a salary that is below what you desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:45 PM
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No. Just deciding to stop hating each other would work a vast majority of the time barring serious betrayal. They simply do not wish to stop. They look for reasons to be mad and stay mad. Again, you're coming entirely from an anecdotal perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:43 PM
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but I dont feel an "instinctive urge" to reject men. Well obviously it's not like your instincts announce themselves as instincts and you would obviously try and rationalize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:26 PM
3

So women are beings of pure instincts whose higher thoughts are meaningless?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:24 PM
1

See you're being too anecdotal and surface level. We have the stats which say married parents kids do better. It's obviously impossible to see how the kid would turn out of their parents were divorced then rewind time and see how they would do if they stayed married, but that doesn't mean we should not encourage the statistically significant. but would the kids prefer living with parents who hate each other Why would they hate each other? Seems like they need to stop hating each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:23 PM
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Yes it's settling and yes I'd happily settle
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:17 PM
1

What? How does this follow? Women agree to do x job for y pay, its only their job to negotiate better pay if that's what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:16 PM
1

Oh shoot you're right sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:10 PM
2

But are kids from wealthy divorce doing better than kids from wealth whose parents are not divorced?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:10 PM
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Being married is just an easy stat in which to associate with less poverty in children. Obviously we cannot screen each individual for being a good parent, so we have to use generalities. This is not propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:09 PM
1

Trying to be in a committed traditional relationship is hedonism but the hook up culture of current times isn't!?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:04 PM
0

Feelings as in sensations and emotions are two different things
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:07 AM
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No but I've seen it. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:40 PM
0

I don't know what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:33 PM
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She tells the people that you "made her feel uncomfortable" and they don't at all attempt to suss out whether or not the woman's feelings are based realistically on anything you did. They don't go "well maybe he didn't mean to?" Or ask "so all he did was ask you out?" That's sexist because you are supposed to just shut up and believe women without question.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:01 PM
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Your car is an actual object or thing. You feeling sad is not an actual thing outside of your perception. The emotions don't exist in any objective way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:43 PM
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Yes and none of those things are actual things either. Just feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:27 PM
-5

Beginning to decline in 2050? So what? Still will outcast western nations. Then we will have Pakistan here in America instead of the western values because women refuse to use the freedom given to them in a way which ensures the next generation of humanity will enjoy the same freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:48 PM
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If they do not use their freedom in the correct way, those other options are inevitabilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:46 PM
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Love isn't an actual thing. It's piffle poff. It's just a way to describe a feeling you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:44 PM
1

Those who support Trump think the civil liability is meaningless due to lack of evidence other than "trust me bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 05:52 AM
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I'm trying to understand you here. So because a man said it, it is male entitlement? If a woman told you to examine your attractions it would not be male entitlement? You should, men should, everyone should think about things and not be freaking instinct driven monkeys. Humans greatest asset is and always have been their minds. Going "i shouldn't examine my monkey instincts and telling me i should is male entitlement" is absolutely fucking wild. My nose isn't plugged just because I am not attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:48 AM
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It's male entitlement to prescribe what women should or shouldn't do wrt what we find attractive, yes Nobody said this. If we had a problem with our preferences, then we would be the ones changing it of our own accord. But you wouldn't because you said that why examination would be male entitlement. So you refuse to examine yourself and your feelings and then you go "well we aren't the ones with the issue with it!" This is the equivalent of saying you don't have an issue with the smell of your f…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:37 AM
2

Wait it's male entitlement for women to even examine themselves? Jfc The phrase "a life unexamined is not worth living" is a famous quote attributed to Socrates, emphasizing the importance of self-reflection and critical thinking for a meaningful life. Socrates believed that without introspection and questioning one's own beliefs and values, a life is devoid of purpose and value. Examining and thinking critically about yourself has nothing to do with male or female entitlement. It's female entit…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:20 AM
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If not, its due to social media and yaas kuween culture. People used to pair up to marry (when being married young was a thing) just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:44 PM
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Sure. I don't see what the point of that question is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:57 PM
2

Why would that be the distribution? I'm not 70 and maimed
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:32 PM
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Individuals might have issues with x y or z. But society as a whole has no such issue. Whereas a man who is unsuccessful for whatever reason is facing the opposite, society frowns upon him, but Individuals might sympathize.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:43 AM
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It seems to me only men are expected to be better than their desires. Women can F a guy every day of the week, get as fat as she wants, etc and society will just applaud her and call her brave. Just like you did when you framed this as men being mad women have sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:24 AM
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Women are not taught self control from a young age, or at the very least don't need to practice it in the same way. There's nothing women want to do that society frowns on generally speaking. And they are more agreeable by default. So you're kind of not really addressing the actuality of the situation. A tiger who is told he can't eat carrots is not exercising self control by not eating the carrots. This is like women. They are told not to fight etc but generally speaking they don't want to anyw…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:22 AM
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It would not be fair if sex is equally distributed, as this neglects if people WANT to have sex with the people they got distributed to Why wouldn't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:18 AM
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Yeah that's the weird part. It's just nonsensical from a man's perspective because it's not based on any logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:27 AM
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What you're missing about these scenarios is that women will move from "issue" to "issue" it's not one thing. It's a never ending shit test spree. Then once a man finally goes "you like to vacuum every day I do it every third day if you want it done that frequently you do it" suddenly she's a victim and she tried to salvage the relationship and he just wouldn't listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:55 AM
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But they don't help. I've had some success with women I'm married but I don't respond to every post with a weird anecdote about how great I am. I recognize I'm lucky being 6'2 etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 08:24 AM
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And people will suffer during the overhaul.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:51 PM
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I don't think you're stat fits your conclusion. Birth rates are an issue because social security relies on taxpayers. If not enough people pay taxes, people who need Medicare will die in poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:25 PM
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This is about antidepressants exclusively i said anti depressants and/or anti psychotics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:05 PM
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These are facts. Up to you if you would like to believe them or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 03:48 PM
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You're looking at things from an individual level vs societal. It doesn't matter that a woman dies alone. But once they becomes frequent enough it becomes a societal level issue. Depression (more women than ever are depressed and one in three are on some kind of anti psychotic or anti depressive) for women and for men is on the rise due to this. Birth rates are plummeting. Single motherhood is on the rise which is terrible for children. You can't look at things in a vacuum.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 03:25 PM
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It is women that rate their looksmatch poorly. It's women who think they should never settle. It's women who argue that you can't negotiate attraction. So in literally every possible way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 12:26 PM
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Men not dating equally unattractive women is the fault of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 12:23 PM
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Men want young thin busty women with specific hip-waist ratios. This is the same as desiring tall broad-shouldered dudes The difference is men want this preferably whereas women want this exclusively
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:59 PM
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It's not sexist it's just reality
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:57 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:56 PM
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No you don't get it you're speaking factually they are speaking emotionally. The fact that everyone settles factually doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:56 PM
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Things like murder, there's laws against it because the constitution protects the right to life as well as if we did not have murder laws society would not be able to function cohesively.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:17 PM
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Then provide an example. A law that has no factual reason to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:09 PM
2

Nah we don't. Please provide example.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 02:56 PM
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We don't base policy on feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 02:52 PM
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No he didn't lmfao. Do you not understand the difference between saying " in my experience x" vs "you (person I don't know) are y"?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 03:10 PM
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Nah you made an absurd assumption
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 03:04 PM
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Yes but your strawman was it was specifically about him and himself being rejected by a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:17 PM
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No it's not. Your experience also includes observation. You know, friends family strangers reading women's posts here. All of those are in the purview of his experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 01:26 PM
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But most fathers do that. They are not outstanding at all. That's what the average father does.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 02:47 AM
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Outstanding is not a synonym of good. You've listed celebrities and YouTubers. But the dad working 40 hours a week to support his family is a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 02:40 AM
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You're mistaking things here. Average is good. Most men are good people generally speaking. Just because he's not standing out doesn't mean he's not good. We don't seem to be using the same terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 02:29 AM
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The qualities of not doing harm to others first off. The exact qualities that make each and every man good in ways that aren't general are going to be different from one to another. If we are speaking generally we have to focus on what they don't do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 12:34 AM
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The way I see it, if someone chooses not to yell at me when they’re upset, they’re not promoting good towards me, they’re simply not promoting evil. But by having no impact on you vs actively doing harm to you, they leave you able to be happy. I’d see not evicting a tenant who is struggling as a good action That contradicts your previous point of not doing something is not good, but you must actively promote goodness and happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 09:59 PM
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It isn't incompetent to not want to admit something because it damages your position, in fact it's very competent
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 09:53 PM
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Nobody said anything about "special cookies" besides yourself. And yet again, what is this nonsense? Unless you want to freely admit that you are terrible people Why would men doing that make you think they are good?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 09:51 PM
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Reread your comment and come back and apologize
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 09:50 PM
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Nope. Neutral is a dnd alignment not a human.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 09:45 PM
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What? Yes selfishness is under our control, and it's good to control it! Why would it have to be that men are more animalisticin order for it to be good that they are not giving into their lizard brain instincts? Men and women both have the urges. Society glorifies women acting selfishly more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 09:44 PM
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If it is bad to do x, it must be not bad to not do it. When something is not bad, it is good. Yes there are neutral actions but those don't involve anyone else. Things like not evicting a tenant who is struggling with work, is doing nothing. But it's still good. It's neutral in that you did nothing, but it's still good.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 09:39 PM
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So you can be good and do nothing? Huh thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 09:33 PM
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Nah women know it's the case they simply refuse to acknowledge it because then they would have to acknowledge most men are good and that shatters the feminist narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 09:33 PM
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You're not really addressing the lizard brain aspect. It's an instinct all people have.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 09:31 PM
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By definition it isn't. It is a positive to not be evil. It is a neutral alignment, but every time a person chooses to not do evil things that is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 08:48 PM
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Men having the urge to be selfish doesn't mean women don't have that urge.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 08:45 PM
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Everyone has the urge to be selfish etc. It's called your lizard brain. Look it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 08:44 PM
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Is it not good to not be evil?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 08:43 PM
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Who says men don't have friends?! Nothing you're saying is grounded in anything but bad faith interpretations.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:51 PM
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Can men not see what happens with their friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:36 PM
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I don't agree. He certainly could have had some wife. Him being stuck on one women is stupid, but not incel. If he was an incel he would have tried a bunch and failed
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:00 PM
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I think if you've been in relationships you know that everyone seems interesting in that first stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 02:54 PM
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I'd say you're splitting hairs here. Finding a spouse is not just about locating someone you think might fit but them wanting you as well. When people say they found someone they don't mean a crush.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 02:41 PM
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I'm not alone and even if I were it would be irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 01:22 PM
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Then you feel bad for 99% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:02 AM
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I've pointed out that you can enjoy someone's company just fine without them being your bestest best friend in whole world! Childish nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 12:46 AM
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You can find a powerful meaningful best friend love connection in reality to if you are a half decent person and look for it. I simply don't agree. It won’t be perfect but Then it's not what you describe it will be far more worth the time, the stress, the memories, the potential years of your life, than someone you don’t feel that way about. In theory it would. But it doesn't exist. Both relationships will cause most likely the same amount of stress, or at least hold the potential too, but one o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 12:39 AM
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What you're talking about is storybook nonsense. I'm a realist. This isn't about what I'd rather do but being realistic. If I believed for a second what a child believes, then I'd be all for trying to find this mystical connection. The fact of the matter is it's nonsense and not only that but it cheapens relationships to think that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 12:31 AM
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You can enjoy the company of someone just fine without it being some soulmate bestest friend in the whole wide world.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 11:50 PM
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Marriage is not some poetic best friendship. It's two people willing to put in the effort for each other. Whether or not you like other men or women is completely irrelevant to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 11:18 PM
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But it seems he never found a woman he was interested in having that long conversation with. Leading one to wonder if marriage would exist at all if men had that criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 11:16 PM
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K your argument is shit. Better? Can you address that your argument is shit now?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:23 PM
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I didn't ask how long it was around? The US being newer is not equal to being less stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:13 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:12 PM
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Let's say this is true. Doesn't this imply women can relate to men but not the opposite? Meaning, is it not possible that women are not as relatable as men are?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:14 PM
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I do not have to disprove an appeal to nature fallacy. You have to find an argument which isn't inherently fallacious.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:09 PM
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Yes, and would you say Islam is as stable as the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:05 PM
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No they really don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:48 PM
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Polygamy is not stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:00 PM
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Fun and easy is not the goal. That which is the greatest good is more often not fun and easy to obtain. None of the things which humans can be proud of were fun and easy. It's greater to suffer through hardships and honor your commitments than it is to flake at the first opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 03:58 PM
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We aren't talking about a type of logic though. That is meaningless. Everything operates on some type of logic. We are talking about what would be logically superior. It's probably the consistent highest "return on investment" for social effort... otherwise it wouldn't BE the default. That's the appeal to nature fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 03:30 PM
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Yes those things are due to religion and monogamy. The degredation of those things are due to people thinking like you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 03:04 PM
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I've just done it? Being healthy leads to better outcomes, doing what leads to more positive outcomes is logical. Unless you're arguing being fat and ill is logical I've got no idea what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 03:02 PM
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That is due to the degradation of strict monogamy though? When people married young they had plenty of kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:57 PM
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No it didn't? The failing of humans to live up to their higher thoughts is not proof that appeal to nature fallacy is not a fallacy. And these instincts have not had enough time to have been removed or altered. Evolution doesn't care about logic, therefore, you can't simply state that there is any logic to following instincts outside of using circular logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:55 PM
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Logical for humans. Logically producing the best outcomes for humans. You're doing the appeal to nature fallacy and assuming what would be logical would be to follow our instinctual urges and desires just because those desires exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:52 PM
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Christianity is not one thing and I think you will find that most sects of Christianity do not simply think women should be "forced" to do anything. They often do believe a woman would be happier at home with her kids than forwarding emails.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:50 PM
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Yes it does? You think about what is better, being fit and healthy vs being fat and unhealthy. Logically you would rather be healthy than unhealthy. So you choose the path that will most likely lead to that outcome. That's logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:48 PM
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Social chaos for supposed evolutionary benefit is not a good trade off
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:47 PM
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Is life better in those Muslim societies? More prosperous? The system of monogamy has brought about the most educated and prosperous societies to ever exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:46 PM
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What is logical about that situation other than satisfying your animal desires?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:43 PM
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No they are not lmfao. Increasing technology making many resources easier to access doesn't automatically equal more prosperous. For example, you used to be able to afford a house on one parents salary. Can we do that now? No. Children are not more educated now something like 30% of kids aren't reading at grade level now. Children of single mothers (basically nonexistent in yesteryear) are more likely To be less educated impoverished and criminal than kids with two parents which used to be the n…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:42 PM
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Didn't say anything about guaranteed. But yes you can analyze your desire for fitness vs your desire for lazyness and choose to go to the gym after weighing each idea logically.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:39 PM
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In theory if it worked that way in practice it's just men and women constantly switching groups not monogamy plus one or x number of people. There's much less cohesion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:38 PM
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Yes but is being socially monogamous logical just because it seems to be the default?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:37 PM
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Don't you get it? Any expectation of women is bad and immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:36 PM
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Nope, neither directly or otherwise XD
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:32 PM
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Never said that bro you're reaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:31 PM
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There is no benefit to species survival for what you described over monogamy in modern times.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:31 PM
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You made the argument religion limits diversity of action. I'm simply pointing out that's often a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:29 PM
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It's definitely possible for nearly everyone but it's not always fun or easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:28 PM
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He's talking about what makes sense logically not what is the instincts from when we were monkeys rutting in the mud.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:27 PM
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It also produces better social cohesion and better outcomes in children. The single largest factor in poverty of a child is being the child of a single mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:25 PM
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You're straddling a weird line. What is true of us in an evolutionary sense is not inherently logical for us as beings with higher thought who are supposedly better than our instincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:24 PM
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That's the appeal to nature fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:22 PM
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And are we more prosperous currently than when marriage for life was the norm? The answer is no. Are children growing into better, less criminal and more educated adults? Nope. By every metric, the new system is worse. Now, your argument appears to be an appeal to nature fallacy. That it is better to do as we would in the wild because reasons. Mate guarding is a remnant of primitive behavior, just like cheating etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:22 PM
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There's nothing religious about what he said
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:18 PM
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You can certainly act out of logic in harmony with those other things and act illogicaly within emotional confines as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:17 PM
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Some things simply work better than others though. The idea that unlimited freedom brings greater happiness than structure of any kind is completely false by every metric. It feels true, but it isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:15 PM
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That’s the fact. But the idea that “women file more so it must be their fault” skips over why they file That's irrelevant to the point. The concept of the person filing not being responsible for filing is an emotional thought process.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:50 PM
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That's not at all what any of these studies claim. They claim that the marriages end. Not that men are leaving. You're inserting your own interpretation of what's happening. Women initiate over 70% of divorces. There's a very distinct possibility they are the ones initiating these divorces too!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:06 PM
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Having cancer or some disease is not necessarily actively dying. But yes I'm sure some do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 08:36 PM
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I'm skeptical of these types of studies. First, how is the data being gathered? Are they simply asking? Because if so, that's not very accurate. Second, they simply say the divorce rates increase not who is initiating the divorce. It could very well be women initiating the divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 08:15 PM
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Yes your friend is by definition someone lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 02:56 AM
2

Are you honestly suggesting right now that it's impossible to not know if someone is interested in you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 02:46 AM
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You're not deciding you know what's best for her by thinking you'd be a good match And how can you be a good partner if she isn’t romantically or sexually attracted? How do you know if she is or isn't until you shoot your shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:15 AM
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They don't hate everything about her because she complains to him about her current bf because he wants to treat her better. What things does he supposedly hate?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 03:23 PM
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How does he know this? Has she said so? It seems like he doesn't know this until he asks. If you're arguing he should just know that which is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 02:48 PM
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I asked a pretty straightforward question. What is it about this supposed man that is so anathema to her happiness?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 02:21 PM
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Men don't date women so they can be used for rides labor money and to listen to women cry over the men using them. If she was with him though? It would be them going to that place together, it would be their money, the work he did would be to build a life together and she wouldn't be crying about other men because he would treat her right. So the idea that this indicates he doesn't really care about her doesn't seem to ring true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 02:18 PM
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That's a pretty big if. What do you mean exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 02:16 PM
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I don't understand this at all. You are friends with a woman. You develop feelings for her because you feel you have a strong bond, share common interests etc. To dare to shoot your shot and express that proves you don't care about her desires at all? Can you not think you'd make a good partner to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 02:11 PM
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At what age are they mature enough then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:39 PM
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Legally? Yes? Morally? Also yes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:35 PM
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Men are attracted to women unfortunately all of them being shallow doesn't make him suddenly a sexual or homosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:53 PM
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You don't just get to go "the answer is over there, I won't be more specific and if you don't see my points proven over there it's a you problem" Specifically which of the recent p posts are you taking issue with and what does it have to do with our discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:42 AM
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I think that's partially true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:33 AM
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You have no idea what the video says you're knee-jerk reaction to any criticism of women is to call them an entitled man that thinks that somehow women are supposed to live their lives in a way that benefits men and is upset that they don't. As a way to shut down any discussion. This isn't the place for that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:12 AM
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I'm not seeing the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:11 AM
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That's not a valid answer on this sub. It's literally the point of this sub for us to discuss these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:38 AM
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That's fair
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:55 PM
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Similarly, I was raised Christian and taught that it is my responsibility to not tempt men, since you can't really expect them to behave better than they do. That's not what Christianity teaches. It teaches not to tempt men because there will always be bad people both men and women and it's best to protect yourself. Similarly arguments regarding male nature are not "it's okay men do this because male nature" but the same lesson I just espoused, that good (people) men can control their inner anim…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:34 PM
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And that's a perfectly reasonable opinion to have as well, but you're strawmanning. Myself and others don't have issues with dating but we can recognize the way society is headed and not like it regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:54 PM
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No though it isn't. Men hitting on women seems to get more of a negative reaction than women hitting on men. If the exact same situation occurred and one time it was a man saying x to a woman and the exact same situation where it was a woman saying x to a man the man hitting on the woman would get a more negative reaction than the inverse. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:17 PM
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Why? Who made that argument and what does it have to to do with the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:15 PM
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That was a specific experience which led to him formulating this question but the question is not about that event specifically
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:50 PM
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K we are not talking about hitting on people in the wrong context or with offensive language
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:48 PM
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Consent has nothing to do with hitting on someone, up until they say no or leave. It's that area he's trying to discuss. You don't walk up to a woman and say "excuse me may I have consent to hit on you?". You try and get shot down and walk away. The question is why are women so rude and vitriolic about being hit on?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:40 PM
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He literally says in his experience and you ask him for a source? How is he supposed to source his own experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:37 PM
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This is a meaningless statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:35 PM
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You can't justify the shaming of men who are hitting on women by suggesting that they might not take no well because some men out there don't. Absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:34 PM
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Yeah when I said that I meant relatively I thought that was obvious. You really think I thought that zero women had jobs and then the next day 99%of them did?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:06 AM
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I didn't say they didn't, but women did join the work force as a whole pretty suddenly relatively speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:02 AM
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I didn't say I had struggles nor that women are the cause of struggles I didn't say I had I think it's pretty rude to put words in other people's mouths but I guess it was probably just the patriarchy that did that, not you. Men are hornier than women biologically we know exactly what causes it, testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:13 AM
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Yes even when they are selfish they are the victims of the patriarchy! Is there any time where women can just be x more than men if x is not a generally good thing? Men can be more horny than women and that is generally seen as bad but women being less horny? Oh well of course that's just society or whatever. Does that not get tiresome? Why is it men can have generally negative traits but women can't?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:01 AM
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If their behavior and thought processes are deeply and inherently self centered, as what you described is, then we must not shy away from calling it what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:52 AM
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Men make more because they take on more dangerous and physically challenging jobs. Not because they are just given money
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:39 AM
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That's not how that works... she's still dating someone who makes just as much as her
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:31 AM
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I disagree with the concept entirely. If women didn't join the workforce and double the workers over night men would still be able to afford to support a family working at a gas station. Men are working just as hard for less than they used to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:36 AM
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Yeah I'm not into the whole "let's explain things in a way which always excuses for women" any time anyone dare suggests women might have a negative trait it's always "but they are weaker" "but patriarchy" "but society!" I agree with the latter part completely though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:34 AM
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I think it's very possible they are just inherently more self centered. For better or for worse. I'm sure this will get deleted because any mention of women not being spectacular beings of pure light seem to be frowned upon here, but it's certainly possible that they are not photon based perfection.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:13 AM
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Not at all in the same way that women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:09 AM
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Men didn't shed it though women still want men who make more than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:09 AM
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I'm glad for you and it's fine to want that, but most people ain't all that special.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:51 PM
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I think you're misinterpreting me. I said men only care about being with women they desire. I didn't say women don't care about being with men they desire, but also that woman like to use the partner they get as a way to boost their ego in a way men do not. This is to say a woman might be with a man she doesn't find super desirable if he is rich or famous or in some way boosts her reputation in some way. Men do not seem to do that nearly as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:53 AM
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This doesn't address what I've said at all. I didn't say men want to feel settled for but it's a completely different topic and for completely different reasons than women. Men say women don't give them enthusiastic sex etc if women settle for them. That's not what women say about why they don't want to be settled for. It seems to be just a blow to their ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:23 AM
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I said perfect in his opinion aka his ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:03 AM
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What terms did I change?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 12:56 AM
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How would you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 12:54 AM
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By definition if they are not you're ideal, you're settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 12:54 AM
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You are similarly those things, so why are you in any better position than me?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 12:37 AM
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How can that not be? Either you are the pinnacle of perfection in that man's opinion, or they are settling for you. Aka taking what they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 12:29 AM
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Why are you, a woman, telling me, a man, how men think?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 12:27 AM
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getting an ego boost by being chosen by someone with the most positive bonafides. That's everyone This is what I'm responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 12:26 AM
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I didn't suggest they don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 12:26 AM
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val·i·da·tion /ˌvaləˈdāSHən/ noun the action of checking or proving the validity or accuracy of something. "the technique requires validation in controlled trials"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 12:25 AM
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This has not been my experience whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 12:24 AM
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Men want to get with women they find attractive because they gone them attractive not for an ego boost.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:50 PM
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Men do not look to get with women in order to get an ego boost.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:49 PM
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So women really believe that some guy out there will think that they are the pinnacle of human evolution? Like every woman thinks that they are that woman and they just need a guy to recognize it? Because that's narcissistic to a ridiculous degree. Most peeps aren't that special.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 10:58 PM
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No it's really not
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 10:57 PM
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This doesn't even really specify what it supposedly found. They have a group bias for women? Everyone does. It's been proven before that this is the default case.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:41 AM
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That's not the kind of loneliness that's being discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:02 PM
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It's one of the most researched psychological phenomenon in existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:40 AM
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Halo effect begs to differ
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:27 AM
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So it's a just world fallacy no matter what? If you think people get what they deserve and if you think they don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:14 AM
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Until you get to things like "contentless rhetoric" which has no specific guidelines and is completely subjective. That of obviously just their way of controlling the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:36 PM
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I think there's a significant difference between dead bedroom and just not as often as you'd like
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:34 PM
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.... I'm saying when women commit violence against men it's less frequently reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 03:45 AM
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I think you need to understand that when you're talking about these stats these are the numbers which are reported. Women report partner violence more often than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 03:42 AM
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Ah I see the confusion. I'm talking about sex. What is their size during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:56 AM
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What is it with the women here? So you think every vagina is exactly the same size?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:53 AM
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Why do you keep bringing up tampons
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:31 AM
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Vaginas have natural variability just like a penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:01 AM
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Look, there's a million things you can measure in a woman's body, just don't choose something that can stretch x5 times a big dick We aren't talking about how much it can stretch, but what it's default state is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 11:03 PM
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How would the latter paragraph be "just"? The reason what you're saying is the just world fallacy is that you're assuming that bad things happen to bad people and good things happen to good people. You assume everyone gets what they deserve. That's fundamentally the just world fallacy, and also fundamentally incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:46 PM
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The rates at which men leave their wives thing was debunked by the peeps who performed the study
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 02:39 PM
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This is just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 02:20 PM
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There's no reason to think that a virgin would be bad in bed. It's not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:11 AM
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I didn't say that others could. I said women decide what they themselves will tolerate and will leave if you cross that threshold. I'm not saying men should or should not conform to these expectations, just that the expectations exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:29 PM
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What are you talking about? How does acknowledging a woman gets to decide if she feels a man is too emotional indicate a lack of self respect and why are you so mad here?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:25 PM
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Why are do many of your comments some passive aggressive nonsense?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:22 PM
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Oh well case closed if you're experience isn't what others experienced they are wrong and you are right! Wtf. Who decides what a normal healthy emotional display is. Let's not be nebulous and dishonest and say "society" or something. Within a relationship, it is the woman deciding what is an acceptable display of emotion. When we look at it this way, your post is pointless because you're going "if you display emotions in a way acceptable to the woman you're with, she will accept that!" Which is …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:20 PM
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The "required" work? Required by whom and for what? I've always done fine with women, while not doing most of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:13 PM
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Every person, man or woman, has their own quirks in bed, turn on and offs etc. A woman with relatively little experience would actually be more likely to try and figure out what yours are vs a woman who has been with a ton of men and will simply try that thing some other guy liked.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:10 PM
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There's no evidence or any reason to believe women get better at sex or are more eager to have sex if they have more partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:16 AM
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But nearly all men are attracted to nearly all women. So it's not a problem they have. It's very easy and convenient to say you'd give the same advice if the shoe was on the other foot when the other foot is a wing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:33 AM
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Yes men will do everything except make a strict diet plan exercise religiously alter their entire personality get a whole new wardrobe and find a new job all new hobbies which women approve of. Just to maybe get literally any female interest whatsoever Damn lazy asses!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:30 AM
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What the fuck? Why would this be about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:16 AM
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Well they all do. The real issue is they all will go after those guys and then when he just screws them and never calls them again? They are such victim. Such hurt. Men are such pigs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:13 AM
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What would they need at university? Very few men went when women couldn't go. You went there to get a job and they thought women shouldn't have to work. Women chose who they husband's were. "Positions of power" which also required stress etc? Yes men thought they were protecting women from that. Now you can argue they were wrong, and that wage slaving has made women's lives better, but to say that men didn't have what they believed were the best intentions in mind is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:50 PM
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The patriarchy doesn't mean men don't like women. Men felt they were protecting women by not forcing them to wage slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 09:43 PM
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I didn't say humans weren't social creatures. That's not at odds with my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 09:03 PM
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You are telling me that you can't make friends with other men? come on No I'm not telling you that I didn't even suggest anything of the sort. I said men can't bro their way out of the innate biases that exist. It's a studied phenomenon that subconsciously men and women both have a bias towards women. Either it's biological or so ingrained in our society that it even occurs in children. It's probably due to how mothers are closer to their children with breastfeeding and giving birth to them etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:10 PM
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Agreed it's general vs personal. Men other men know personally they like over random women. Women side with random women more than women they know. Pretty strange
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:39 PM
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Not for lack of effort
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:29 PM
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I'm sorry did you not ask what innate was?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:08 PM
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Yes according to everything I've seen. Women naturally seem to prefer women over men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:06 PM
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innate Overview Similar and opposite words Usage examples Pronunciation Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more adjective inborn; natural. "her innate capacity for organization"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:01 PM
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Then you've never looked. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.cbsnews.com/news/solar-eclipse-shooting-spree-taylon-celestine-shoots-drivers-claims-god-told-her-to/&ved=2ahUKEwjvpdX2iMuMAxWrGjQIHe1nM-cQFnoECCAQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1W8jbkBddjn94eMKDQQKp3
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:36 PM
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We are talking about inherent innate subconscious biases men can't bro their way out of these inborn traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:32 PM
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Are there women who didn't know they were pregnant until they farted or a baby or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:46 PM
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The women don't need a lawyer the state will do it by themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:35 PM
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I didn't suggest otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:25 PM
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This isn't about attractive men being bad or good. It's simply about the reality that is a 9/10 is hitting on a 6/10 she should be able to understand that he's likely just trying to get in her pants. This isn't saying all attractive men are bad, just that there are attractive men who are bad. It seems women don't think this is possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:25 PM
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You can also pay for your child. Did you not read where i said The only way to avoid it is
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:28 PM
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That was clearly a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:24 PM
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Plenty of people go to jail for not paying child support. And they will literally just take it out of your wages if you don't pay it. The only way to avoid it is to not have a job or work under the table and if they catch you doing the latter you will go to jail
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:23 PM
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Women die in pregnancy and childbirth, it crushes your organs, they lose gallons of blood, they scream while in labour, they need morphine for the pain, you basically have a baby-sized parasite feeding off you for 9 months that you have to carry inside of your body. You must be a troll because your comment is the most ignorant thing ive ever read. How do some women not know they are pregnant until they fart out the baby if what you're saying is the norm? There is massive biological difference he…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:21 PM
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Why would the woman put the peanut tube in her mouth in your analogy?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:10 PM
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For agreeing with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:49 PM
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He's responsible for his end, and she's responsible for hers. The issue is we are all responsible for our own body. Let's say your allergic to nuts and i offer you some. I can have nuts, I'm not allergic. I can enjoy nuts. You can't. You have to refuse. Because I'm not responsible for you. It's not my job to not offer you nuts (sex) if you don't want to have a reaction (get pregnant) it's your body which can't have nuts without having an allergic reaction. Therefore you are responsible for sayin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:48 PM
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I don't see any hatred here. Please point it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:46 PM
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Yes. And I think many men here are. It's a cheap cop out to just proclaim they don't know what they are talking about because they aren't in relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:44 PM
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How's that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:41 PM
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They are responsible for not putting the sperm tube which produces sperm into their body lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:41 PM
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Not only would men not be for abortion if they got pregnant, it would never have been a thing in the first place All this hemming and hawwing about pregnancy and how hard it is, is nonsense. There's women who don't even realize they were pregnant until they fart the baby into the toilet. And the whole "clump of cells" thing is a misnomer, we are all clumps of cells. Abortion is the killing of a human being in the first stage of life. There's no significant difference biologically speaking than k…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:40 PM
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This is absurd and robs women of agency. Women saying yes to putting a sperm delivery system into their baby making hole are just as responsible if not more than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:35 PM
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I was in the same situation as you until i found out it was my mom lying the whole time and he had always paid support.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:32 PM
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They don't do that because the government daddy doesn't accept that and they are still going to get thrown in jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:30 PM
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You think none of these men are in relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:26 PM
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Damn nietzeche hyperbased. Ahead of his time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:25 PM
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By looking at the man. Is he way more attractive than you? Then he's lying to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:23 PM
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If it seems too good to be true, it is. Women get fooled by chad despite not being Stacy A man who is fooled by a woman who claims to want a traditional relationship and does all the right things to create that illusion is being tricked on a different level. Because she's not clearly out of his league. If she is then yes I agree it's his fault to a degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:23 PM
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Saying you've heard something is much different from telling a full blown story about yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:49 PM
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I didn't say otherwise. I said even if they had done the same thing, it would be viewed differently. But I'd suggest to you if dude cheated on you he wasn't as ugly as you thought. Also, I'd suggest correlation is not causation
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 07:40 PM
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You believe that you are immune to the halo effect?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 07:37 PM
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Don’t you think some women are just simply too unattractive to you and their complaints come off as whining? Nope. I don't consider someone's features or theorize about how attractive they are when I read or hear an opinion. Why are you upset about this? I didn't say I was. Don't pull nonsense like telling me I'm upset for disagreeing please. No she did not and even if she did you didn’t answer my question She very clearly did or why is it relevant to this post? If she isn't calling this person …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 07:23 PM
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The halo effect occurs when our overall positive impression of a person, product, or brand is based on a single characteristic. If our first impression is positive, the subsequent judgments we make will be colored by this first impression.Dec 2, 2022 https://www.scribbr.com What Is the Halo Effect? | Definition & Examples - Scribbr It's a phenomenon which occurs when someone is very good looking their actions are viewed through a filter and are seen in a more positive light. An ugly man doing x …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 07:17 PM
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Handsome people came be insecure?! The fuck are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 07:13 PM
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She didn't say sometimes this happens. The implication is clear that she is implying any and all opinions she disagrees with here are just the rants of ugly dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 07:07 PM
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I didn't ask. This is a general discussion about the dating market not a place for you to tell personal stories
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 07:05 PM
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Why is the default assumption the woman is more attractive than him? And what I'm saying is that a guy being overly protective of his girl will be seen differently when it's a handsome man vs an ugly one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 06:50 PM
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You're welcome to disagree but I'm not saying every woman does anything I'm saying that there is a concerted effort of some women to increase their collective bargaining power via "yaaaaaasss kuwweeeeerrn"ing each other into borderline psychotic levels of deousion in terms of their standards and what they can demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 06:36 PM
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I'll have to disagree, I've seen women complain to their gfs about how they think they can get a better looking man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 06:26 PM
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So yes or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 06:08 PM
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That's not referring to health.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:54 PM
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I really am not. I do fine for myself, always had a gf etc. But i see my friends struggling, good men who are interesting and funny who are involuntary celibate for a decade now. I see the dating atmosphere as very flawed because of that. Women seem to think that anyone who complains is doing so because of something effecting them personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:50 PM
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No. That's not a fact. Your opinion is not fact. It's not a fact that anyone who complains about dating is not romantically successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:44 PM
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I don't see how that point is made by insinuating the author of any comment you don't like is a meaningless rant from an undesirable man
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:34 PM
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The misconception is that women will care about - much less adjust our behavior based on - the tantrums and rants of undesirable men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:33 PM
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Yes for a lot of people the body fat percentage to have visible abs is like 12% which is unhealthy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:17 PM
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At the point where abs are showing there's no significant advantage between that and fit with no abs
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:05 PM
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This doesn't address what I've said at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:04 PM
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There's no gymnastics involved in pointing out that age does not equal maturity. It's a straight forward fact
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 04:28 PM
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I didn't say otherwise. But even if they hadn't you'd still insist they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 04:27 PM
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The halo effect dictatesthat a hot guy displaying the same behavior would be seen more favorably
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 04:12 PM
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Improve themselves? How is a man with a six pack improved from a man who doesn't have one?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:48 PM
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The misconception is that women will care about - much less adjust our behavior based on - the tantrums and rants of undesirable men So if you found out the man that wrote this was desirable it would change things?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:47 PM
5

This isn't an argument. It's a grab bag of insults and misnomers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:46 PM
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Of course there's a mass conspiracy among women. All this "yaaaasss kuween!" And "never settle no matter what!!" Stuff is a massive group effort by women to enhance their bargaining power whether it's consciously done or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:45 PM
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The suggestion is not to fuck a guy they don't want to. If you see a guy you find attractive and then a guy walks up next to him and you find him even more attractive, is the first guy you saw ugly all of a sudden? No. The advice is to just go for the slightly less attractive guy, not a misshapen hump backed dwarf.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:44 PM
0

Halo effect and a ridiculous sample size issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:41 PM
-2

Halo effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:40 PM
1

Aging does not necessarily mean maturing. In fact some people become less mature. Especially if they come into money or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:20 PM
2

Absolutely not. There's 40 year olds who are less mature than 20 year olds and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:18 PM
2

K we will have to agree to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:02 AM
1

Are talking about relationships with consenting adults
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:01 AM
1

It's impossible for all men's preference to be a red flag
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 11:10 PM
1

I'm sorry, I was just told that women have some mystical instinct to prevent being fooled. And we are talking about abusers not cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:07 PM
3

So women are being tricked by incredibly rudimentary tactics? All a guy has to do is go "no way I'm not an abuser!" And a woman is fooled lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:00 PM
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That's simply not reality. The idea that all abusers are Hannibal lecter level masters at hiding their abusive nature is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:38 PM
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What
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 06:30 PM
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Men are not trying to lower women's self esteem by trying to make them think realistically. And they are not always thinking of things personally. The way you portray men is as if they can only see a problem if they are effected by it. No They can see problems they are not effected by. Men can see the dating game is fucked even if they are winning
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 06:29 PM
-1

If all men like younger then dating a younger woman is not a red flag
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 05:59 PM
-7

All men like younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 05:45 PM
1

Women here both mischracterize the message men are trying to get through to them and then mischaracterize the men based on their emotional reaction to the strawman they themselves created. Fascinating
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 05:43 PM
-4

Chicken or the egg though. If women were simply nice all the time men wouldn't get confused. It's because women are so rarely nice to men that them being nice to men seems like such a clear sign of interest
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 05:26 PM
-1

We both know that's not the case
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 03:23 PM
3

This fundamentally seems your question is not can you be an alpha male if ugly but can people see you as an alpha male if you're ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 12:58 AM
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He became known as a great painter after they started liking his work, but nothing fundamentally changed about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 12:11 AM
1

That doesn't disprove my point. Unless you're suggesting the real stat is "men get custody more when women agree to give them custody"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:45 PM
4

The studies done on cheating are usually self reported. If they are reported by the partner that's not a very solid foundation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:25 PM
0

I think you're ignoring that it makes them feel these things relative to how they'd normally feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:20 PM
2

The fallacy is correlation equals causation. When men ask they get custody more assumes the asking is the cause of them getting custody, ignoring other factors which are numerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:20 PM
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No. That's a fallacy. Men are told by their lawyers when they have a good chance to get the children and they act on that advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:17 PM
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Men are programmed to be good fathers or good at things which a man would generally be good at. They become less competitive aggressive etc when they have kids which makes them a better father but that has other effects in their lives
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:16 PM
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*Men admit to cheating more
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:14 PM
5

A woman who cleans and is sexually attracted!? Oh my. Those dirty dogs
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 02:25 AM
-1

Why would a woman resent a man who makes more?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 05:29 PM
1

K
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 04:58 PM
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Because women can't win cash prizes for divorcing someone who makes the same amount as them. I said this. You responded to this with "because they are happier". How is that a response to what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 04:09 PM
-1

You're not making sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 04:00 PM
-2

What ? If they are happy why divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 03:41 PM
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You're assuming by default that which makes the women sympathetic and paints them in the best light. Do you think that's an honest way to assess things?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 03:06 PM
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Happiness** comes from whether you feel valued and supported in your relationship, This is what I was referring to. And your original statement seems to be a correlation vs causation fallacy if achieving great success destroys the paradigm.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 03:04 PM
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So success contributes to the happiness in marriage until you get very successful?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 03:03 PM
2

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://leitner.yale.edu/sites/default/files/files/Folke%2520Rickne%2520Single%2520Ladies%2520Nov%25202018.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj11oSHqYeMAxXwATQIHZWZKFQQFnoECBYQBg&usg=AOvVaw3wVW30TpIWHhI3qOiGzq0p
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 03:00 PM
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Promoted women get divorced at twice the rate of non-promoted women, resulting in a 7-percentage-point divorce gap three years after the election. https://leitner.yale.eduPDF the Single Ladies: Job Promotions and the Durability of Marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 02:59 PM
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If that's true why is it women are more likely to divorce when they get a raise
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 02:47 PM
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Because women can't win cash prizes for divorcing someone who makes the same amount as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 02:46 PM
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No they don't have Dawgs in them there
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 03:26 PM
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Some people just got that dawg in em.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 02:03 PM
1

Yes both why do you ask
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 09:02 AM
1

What are you talking about? It is not exactly the same, but the labor involved, if we are talking about strenuous physical labor, is comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 10:19 PM
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Society needs your jobs to function.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:46 PM
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You're not contradicting what I'm saying. The point is, if a man or a woman is going to have a physically demanding job it would be the man 99% of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:31 PM
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What is it you think you're proving? Statistically the women who work hard manual labor jobs are a tiny percentage. You're anecdotes don't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:21 PM
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Biased perspective. A small proportion of slavery is slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:19 PM
1

But most physically demanding jobs are done by men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:17 PM
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No. It's not okay to kill other humans. Stay out of women's uterus
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:16 PM
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I was speaking generally
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:15 PM
0

Sure? I think you missed my point. That women complain about the labor they do for incubation and birth but they don't complain on behalf of men who do physically demanding jobs for YEARS to pay child support. They demand if a woman doesn't want to have the kid she should be able to kill it to avoid the pain of the labor and inconvenience of the incubation because her body her choice. The man who is doing back breaking labor to earn his money gets no such choice though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 05:30 AM
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I said generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 05:27 AM
1

Women do not, generally speaking, do the physically taxing jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 05:19 AM
2

Again, these jobs are necessary for society to function.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 05:04 AM
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The purported rises are a correlation causation fallacy and even if we are to believe the numbers we still come out in the green in comparison to abortion. Because a human dies every time an abortion is done. And women die from abortion complications as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:59 AM
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Red herring nonsense. Hikes in infant mortality? 99.9999% of infants die in abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:46 AM
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99% of women are vying for office jobs. The tough shit has to be done. Men are the only ones willing to do them. Pay gap has nothing to do with it. If women were willing to do the hard jobs that keep society going more men could forward emails in air conditioned offices. They won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:45 AM
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I'd question the source of that stat. And no. Not killing the unborn doesn't cost more lives
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:39 AM
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Women don't work the physically demanding jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:38 AM
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You only give birth once, the man works 5 days a week, sometimes very back breaking work, to pay. Some women don't even realize they are pregnant until they give birth. So I'd say that's easier than working on an oil rig for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:35 AM
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"Terrific expense to your own health" is hardly a given. In fact studies have shown that the more babies a woman has the longer she lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:33 AM
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Don't do anything to harm the offspring. That's it. Just like in life. Don't harm other humans. Abortion is a tricky topic and not one I feel like debating about here. But please be aware that telling a woman she must be pregnant and give birth is not asking her to “do nothing” No no no. You misunderstand. The point i was making is there's no force involved in not killing the unborn.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:59 AM
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The offspring isn't your body. Leave it alone if you value bodily autonomy. Force is something done to you. Not giving you an abortion isn't force. It's literally doing nothing to women to not give kill their offspring for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:49 AM
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The men who do not want their offspring killed would be happy to do so and usually are splitting the cost of things with their gf I don't understand your point. This gotcha is bunk
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:45 AM
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This should say a man demanding a woman donate her body as an incubator for 9 months No it would be demanding she don't kill their offspring. The law being for child support proves men are not even seen as human.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:34 AM
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It is still offspring. Then stay out of our bodies. That's exactly what I'm suggesting? To not fuck with the offspring lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:33 AM
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Do you think being gay is simply enjoying anal? The fuck are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:28 AM
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How is demanding child support totally acceptable but a man demanding a woman not kill their offspring isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:25 AM
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Gestate for nine months at terrific expense to her own health*. Haven’t seen a conservative man yet willing to offer his kidneys for dialysis of another patient for nine months, have you? Not only is this inaccurate but it ignores the work, often very physically taxing, men do to make the money to pay child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:24 AM
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But then the human race would end.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:45 AM
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I don't really know how that addresses what I said or even makes sense as a response
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:30 AM
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Men chasing women is the only reason the human race exists. It's about time women came to understand this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:16 AM
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Are you familiar with the halo effect?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:35 PM
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Nope. They will take any and every opportunity to negatively label a man. Let me ask you this, is a guy who loses his cool once not actually nice?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:09 PM
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The objective was to push the idea that men who say they are nice aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:02 PM
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It's been made mainstream by women with an agenda
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:52 PM
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Having opinions women don't like doesn't mean you're not nice. You're proving my point
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:51 PM
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I think it's more that women simply do not want a man who has emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:40 PM
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Pure anecdotal speculation and the demonizing of men who have been hurt and spurned.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:38 PM
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The issue here is the supposition and labeling that sincerely nice guys don't exist. You can't even say the term nice guy without women thinking it is code for a not nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:35 PM
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I think that most cases where women label men fake nice guys its an excuse to dismiss them without seeming shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:34 PM
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Why would there be guilt or pity? Can you not actually like a nice guy? It seems to me if those same guys were super hot, you'd have no issue with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:33 PM
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Oh that old lie. Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:13 PM
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I'm just confused at the phrasing which seems to imply men who are not traditionally attractive are default less or inferior to men who are attractive. Just interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:13 PM
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How is a nice guy "less"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:05 PM
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Women who fit the criteria of the women I described.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 04:19 PM
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They literally say it is how they work. The idea that it's men's fault they didn't know that was a lie is absurd
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 04:14 PM
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When women say the factors of their attraction, they just everything as if they have equal weight. This implies they could be attracted to an ugly guy if all the other stuff they claim to want is met, like if the guy is funny well groomed makes money self sufficient etc he can be fugly. But the reality is that they are not attracted to those secondary features
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 03:48 PM
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The truth though is they only care about other things once their looks standard is met. So it's looks first all else secondary
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 03:39 PM
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Near as I can figure
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:50 AM
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I simply don't agree. Men are much happier settling for average looking women than women are doing the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 12:15 AM
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I'm not sure of your point here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:56 PM
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The idea that all bad men are these master manipulators is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:46 PM
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Men do not prioritize good looks as much as women. But every statistic men find the average woman more attractive than women find the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:44 PM
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Why would we suppose they are not compatible?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 05:12 AM
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No it's not nobody is suggesting women date men who are absolute dog shit abusive one toothed trailer park inbred midgets. It's literally saying to lower your looks standards slightly to get better treatment where applicable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 04:45 AM
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This isn't about you personally. You keep saying it's not a good idea, but you won't say how. This indicates to me that this is not a logical thought process, but a feeling you have. You feel like women shouldn't listen to this because you feel like it would be bad. Likely because you feel like you don't need this advice and you feel like you can therefore speak for all women. That's a whole lot of feelings which amount to jack shit. There's a reason after women get knocked up by the player they…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 04:17 AM
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I didn't suggest that was the case, but that point has been discussed to death. People with more options are less likely to care about any single option. That's not up for debate. It's reality. The principle of scarcity is not up for debate. Women pretending it's not real are just denying reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 04:07 AM
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This is a weirdly self centered way to discuss this. This isn't about exactly you and exactly your situation. It's about women in general. as I am the only one who determines what a successful relationship is for me and what I want out of it. I have standards and boundaries that I do not budge on and that's fine. Nobody said that wasn't fine? You're not making sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 04:06 AM
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You're simply stomping your foot and saying you're right you're not explaining how. Broccoli is an analogy for a man who would be good to you and a great partner in every way except in raw appeal. How would it not be smart to go with a guy like that vs a more appealing guy who might not be good to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 03:59 AM
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How would eating broccoli be harmful? Sure maybe it doesn't taste as good as other foods or seem as appealing but it's good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 03:52 AM
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I don't see how it's unhelpful. It's like telling someone who claims they want to be healthy and tried brocoli when they were a kid and didn't like it, to try it again. Then the women throw a fit about how broccoli doesn't taste as good as mcdonalds
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 03:48 AM
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Just world fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 02:30 PM
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Yes because the whole thing is make them wait. Well they aren't really waiting. They are just fucking other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:27 PM
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Dating someone does not mean you can't date others
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:21 PM
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Which is why I said and.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 06:39 PM
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So then he will just string her along while texting and dating other women until she has sex and then dump her
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 06:06 PM
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Societal pressure would be like being shunned from society if you don't do it. Not just "could make some money".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:54 PM
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That's not society placing pressure on them, that's them wanting cash prizes for looking hot
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:46 PM
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Men will happily date down. Women are shallow because their standards are so high they can't be happy with the level of men they would naturally be able to attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:45 PM
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If women don't want to shave anymore, they don't have to. Yes they won't get access to the men they want, that's the issue though. It's not society, it's them trying to out compete other women for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:13 PM
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I simply don't agree there's that social pressure on women to do any of that anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:49 PM
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I'm aware of how shallow and vapid women are. The only reason why women do this with the level of neuroticism they do is they want to shoot out of their league in terms of the guys they can attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:29 PM
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I don't believe that is the case in studies I've seen men prefer women and women prefer women in terms of inherent biases I'd be interested in seeing a source
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:06 PM
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Women have an in group bias and yaaaz kweeern! The shit out of each other. And men are just hornier
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:06 PM
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Women have an in group bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:04 PM
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The discrepancy comes from how horny men are and their hormones more than any effort women put in.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:59 PM
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You believe the average woman is 100x more attractive than the average man? That would indicate if the average man was a 5/10 the average woman is a 500/10 which is obviously impossible, or at the very least imply the average woman is a 10/10 which is obviously wrong. The average woman is more desired by men than her counterpart is desired by women because men have more testosterone and are hornier. It isn't because they are objectively more attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:49 PM
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And yet isn't nearly 100x more attractive. And they only do that so that they can try and shoot out of their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:45 PM
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No. No it does not. Men being more willing to sleep down doesn't mean these women are more attractive it just means men are hornier
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:45 PM
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Just world fallacy. The men a woman desires is not her level for some mystical reason. Plenty of women desire men out of their league
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:36 PM
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Just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:36 PM
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Women are not more attractive than the average man, but they do every single thing in their power to create excuses to believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:29 PM
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This isn't about me. Why would a woman lose respect for the man she loves because she had to pick up her phone?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 09:25 PM
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Yes that's pretty basic though I doubt that in reality very many men are that stupid. Like 1% of men without learning disabilities might leave cups and bowls up. But if you ask women it seems to be nearly every man
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 07:21 PM
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I didn't bring it up as a pejorative lmfao. Why bring it up? Because it's relevant to the discussion honestly what the fuck are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 06:44 PM
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I didn't suggest only women could have a preference in the way the washer was oriented. I suggested they were more likely to have a preferred way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 06:32 PM
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I don't understand how this response relates to what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 06:03 PM
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How is asking person x incompetence but asking person y isn't? It's the same freaking thing lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 05:54 PM
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I'm asking why it's such an inconvenience. Simply going "Hey baby near the eggs! Thanks love you!". There's no world where I would consider that an inconvenience. It's fucking absurd. And nobody said he couldn't ask a stranger but why not call the woman he loves? Women need to stop with this victimhood shit. "He calls me and asks me questions I know the answer to!!??" Meanwhile she expects him to listen to all of her problems every day!? Lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 05:47 PM
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Part of figuring it out is asking someone who knows
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 05:27 PM
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You can't speak while you cook?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 05:25 PM
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No the assumption is, women have preferred ways they would like to see the dishes loaded despite it not really being any more efficient, or negligibly more efficient, to such a small degree it is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:49 PM
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He's getting the stuff they both need at the store?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:36 PM
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Don't project.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:32 PM
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But who are you to decide it's not both?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:30 PM
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Why ask a stranger instead of hearing the voice of the person you love. You keep framing this as a competence issue when they completely understand they could ask a clerk but would rather speak to the person they love than a stranger. Respond as to why that's so awful or absurd
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:27 PM
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Yet again, they could ask an attendant, a stranger. Or get to talk to the person they love, ask what they are doing etc and get the answer from that. Why is that so wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:22 PM
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Or they could figure it out themselves but they just felt like hearing their spouses voice?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:16 PM
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I've never once had someone complain of an allergy in my home maybe you should worry about why that happens to you LOLLLL!!! LMFAO. 😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🥰🤣🤣😍😂 TELLING ON YOURSELF!! LMFAO
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:12 PM
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I honestly don't believe these things, except possibly the last one, happen with any sort of frequency. And the last one is really not cause for concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:58 PM
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Answer the question. The weaponized incompetence is her having to go through the agony of ....? "Hey babe! Oh yeah they are over near the bread. Make sure to grab x brand. Thanks!" That's the diabolical and unfair labor he's hoisting on her? What a terrible burden to bare! The humanity!!! What the fuck are you guys on about
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:51 PM
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Yet again, being at the store ten times is not equal to knowing where every single item is at the store
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:48 PM
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I'm not understanding the anger here. Why is it so inconvenient to simply press the talk button on your phone and speak?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:48 PM
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It's not the norm because men are not as neurotic as women by nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:47 PM
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No. I said you had to learn something 10 times to retain it. Like where things are at the grocery store.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:46 PM
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He is helping her out. He's at the store. How is literally just speaking such an inconvenience?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:45 PM
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Then I said I was speaking GENERALLY which I assumed was OBVIOUS. LOLLLLL!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:45 PM
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They do have a standard, it's just not as rigorous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:44 PM
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Because the question is not have you been to the grocery term times lol going to the grocery ten times does not equate to knowing where every single item is at the grocery
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:43 PM
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You're making a very generous assumption. Couldn't it be women simply have a habit formed preference?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:42 PM
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But they do care to try and make men clean beyond the men's standards when women would not care to clean passed their own standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:41 PM
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Yet again, not cleaning at all for a week would make the house dirty by the men's standards and allergies are a very specific circumstance I'm speaking generally obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:41 PM
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Why would you rather believe he's got some secret plan to annoy her so much by daring to call her vs he just likes to talk to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:40 PM
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To find the exact specific thing the wife wants? Men are simple. They likely know where the beef and donuts are. But the specific spice or coffee creamer the woman wants? Probably not
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:38 PM
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I'm not seeing the weapon. You know something he wants to know, he loves you and would rather talk to you than some stranger and that's an attack on you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:36 PM
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Men like the house to be clean by their standards no men care if it's cleaned beyond that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:35 PM
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Describe to me how that's the case. The only think I can think of is leaving bowls and plates face up
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:34 PM
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What is the spoons oriented correctly or the specific spot for the bowl? These are preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:33 PM
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Women are more neurotic genetically and therefore their standards are higher because they literally worry about it more
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:28 PM
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There was a study where it said it takes someone learning something ten times for them to fully retain it. This is why there is so much repetition in school. And where is the weapon in calling your wife to ask where something is in the grocery store? I'd suggest the people here trying to suggest their spouse not being good at something is somehow an attack on them are the ones trying to cultivate a victim narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:26 PM
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What does it mean to be bad at loading the Dishwasher? They don't do it the way you would?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:24 PM
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What does your homophobia have to do with being all men's spokesman?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:17 PM
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Your homophobia isn't relevant here
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 02:01 PM
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I have no idea what you're on about. The topic is unwanted attention. And how you think it's "self control" for men to not express their attraction to women. But in reality, the only reason men would not do this is because women react negatively to men freely saying what they think. So the "self control" just so happens to in this case, mean do what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 11:29 PM
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It has zero to do with what others want. You seem to be defining self control as simply others not doing the things you find undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 08:22 PM
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The issue is that the definition of expressing your attraction in the wrong way is usually just doing it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 07:41 PM
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Self control meaning? Do what you want without needing to be asked?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 07:21 PM
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I think it's creepy to get mad at others for using their freedom of speech to express their attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 07:16 PM
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So you want to control others freedom of speech
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 07:02 PM
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If you’re having sexual thoughts about kids, you need locking up This is what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 05:49 PM
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You seem unable to articulate the difference. This is a you issue
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 05:06 PM
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Hahaha HAHAHA! Really good one!! Now explain why
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:58 PM
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So? You accuse me of pedophilia and say I belong in jail and all you can say is "so?"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:46 PM
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No. My response was about sexualization generally speaking and your comment towards me was extremely out of line.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:38 PM
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I don't see how or why.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:32 PM
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It's 100% your problem if you get offended by sexual attention. See? Same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:32 PM
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In what way is that not the same? They are both happening in public. But women want to be able to control what men think and say. Men don't want to do that to women. So there's an imbalance. This whole "social skills" angle is simple shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:09 PM
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The issue is, you can't, and shouldn't seek to, have control over what men think of you. That's dehumanizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:03 PM
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In what way is it creepy? You're simply using the same social media as them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:01 PM
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But most men exclusively want to fuck human women. So thinking women are for fucking is treating them like humans
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:00 PM
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Why on earth would you say that to me? I said nothing about kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:59 PM
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So. Men need to watch what they say in order to not cause discomfort to women. What do women need to do to not cause discomfort in men? Because if it's suggested women dress more modestly, women tell men to fuck off and stop trying to control women. So why should women control what men say, and not be told to fuck off and stop trying to control men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:59 PM
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But men want to have sex with human women, so how is it treating them like an object?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:52 PM
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Ugh so many creeps in my dms! Is something I've seen plenty of times
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:51 PM
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Being sexualized happens in another person's thoughts though so you're basically felt like saying men need to have consent to have thoughts about you which is crossing the line into controlling others
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:46 PM
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Men are flattered by attention from women they don't find attractive. Women are disgusted by it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:43 PM
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Men cannot impregnate unless a woman makes the decision to allow his penis in her. It starts there. With her decision. And yes the one who gets pregnant is uniquely responsible for her own body. Imagine you have a peanut butter allergy, and someone offers you peanut butter. It's up to you to say no. Just like how you have a reaction to semen. It's up to you to say no to avoid that reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 07:54 PM
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It's this exact argument but for women how can you not understand it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:28 PM
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This doesn't make sense. Take away the fact that precum is a thing, and that sperm can hang around on or in the dick for some time, and that some men prematurely ejaculate. Women have 100% control of whether a dick enters them at all. So why is the onus on men? Don't put the sperm tube in if you don't want the sperm. Very very simply. No birth control method is 100% effective including pulling out. That's just not how things work. It isn't men twirling their mustaches and going "mwahaha I'm goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 06:45 AM
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The issue here is that it would be comparable to going to a restaurant that doesn't list their prices. Yes in extreme circumstances it's obvious that some women are out of some men's league. But often it is pretty ambiguous. And women seem to rate men very low, on the ok cupid study for example, where the majority of men were rated below average and none were rated as above average when men were rated by women. Whereas when women were rated by men, you see the expected bell curve of most women b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 03:27 AM
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It's my choice to eat a sandwich. It's not my choice if the sandwich can say no. Then it is the sandwich who decides if it gets eaten
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 03:03 AM
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That doesn't make it his choice because they say yes or no. They have to try a lot because most who he asks say no. What you're asking doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 02:36 AM
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Men scattershot approach and have to choose from the very few who are willing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 12:36 AM
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Men don't have anywhere near the same amount of options. Let me use an analogy. Let's say a woman and a man both have a library card. The library will loan the woman her choice of a hundred different books. The library will only loan the man his choice of two, three if he's lucky. If he wants to read, he's gotta choose from the three he's offered. If none of them are good, how is that his fault? The woman has her choice of one hundred, many good, but purposely chooses the bad one. Do you see how…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:59 PM
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If I said "I like girls who look Asian but don't act like it" would that not just be liking Asian girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:17 PM
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Isn't that just liking bad boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:10 PM
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How would you get in a relationship with a man if he won't pay you any attention I asked this. You provided no satisfactory answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 12:06 AM
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You're not making sense. The man would just ignore you. That's what you said you wanted, unless you already had a relationship with him he'd just ignore you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:23 PM
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How would you get in a relationship with a man if he won't pay you any attention
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 09:56 PM
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So you don't want attention from men you find attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 09:34 PM
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This is exactly why men think child support is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:57 PM
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Are women adults or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 01:28 AM
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You're not understanding what I'm saying. I understand why the morality is important I'm saying when women talk about their advantage morality isn't relevant all the sudden. So why can't they understand why that's a bad argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:54 AM
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What is your obsession with this 600 lb Amy person?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:53 AM
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What is your obsession with this 600 lb Amy person?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:48 AM
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I didn't say anything about force so no not my premise and I didn't say women didn't get to choose either so double strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:35 AM
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The amount of women a man wouldn't just have sex with or at least get a blow job from is pretty damn low. Orders and magnitudes more rare than the inverse. So again, it's not really a relevant issue to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:33 AM
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But the likelihood that a man doesn't want to have sex with a woman is very low so it's not really an issue that the woman has. How is it equally an issue for you when you don't want to go to begin with? You don't want an apple and I do, neither of us can have an apple, who is inconvenienced by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:28 AM
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This is what I'm saying that women's attraction doesn't line up with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:22 AM
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This whole "women can't date without consent" is irrelevant because women are the more appealing sex to the people they wish to attract. It's like if you didn't want to go somewhere and I did and you were like "don't worry I can't go to that place either so equality!" Except you didn't want to go there in the first place. So it's no sweat off your back.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:21 AM
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This is borderline religious magical thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:18 AM
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I didn't say there was a gender difference in the sense you're explaining
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:18 AM
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You guys are just uncomfortable addressing my point so you'd rather strawman and moralize
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:17 AM
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Men never stole anything. Women didn't used to have rights which were taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:14 PM
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It's not as simple as that - no one is obligated to give up anything to maximize happiness for all, but everyone is obligated not to abuse others Except they aren't. In other countries men are not obligated. There is no magical obligation. Men decided that for the good of all it was best to limit themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:47 PM
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80% of men can't be below average. That's not how average works
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:46 PM
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Basically. And the fact that there's no expectation of women to use this in a way which is moral when men are expected to be moral
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:11 PM
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I disagree that something can't be advantage just because it has drawbacks
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:06 PM
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Agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:02 PM
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I didn't say any of that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:54 PM
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No I didn't say that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:53 PM
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Didn't say otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:53 PM
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I'm not proposing that. I'm proposing people be societally expected to love and marry reasonably
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:36 PM
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Natural selection would be he died at birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:34 PM
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You're not making sense. Recognizing that rights are only as good as your ability to defend them is slave owner talk?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:32 PM
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Natural selection would have killed Steven hawking
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:32 PM
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Why would you marry someone you don't love?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:23 PM
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You created a strawman argument assigned it to me and then got angry at me for it!? Lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:22 PM
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Don’t be coy. Your argument still is that low-value men will use their physical strength to control and force women if women don’t accede to their demands. “Do this or I will make you” is absolutely force. Absolutely fucking not and I won't engage with someone who is being this dishonest about my point
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:20 PM
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Why wouldn't you love who you married,
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:17 PM
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Which is why i said 2 or 3 is basically
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:16 PM
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I never said the two were morally equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:16 PM
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Someone dying is pretty much the biggest deal of a person's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:16 PM
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And...? Of what relevance is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:14 PM
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When did i say I want to live in a world with no options for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:13 PM
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They can, but they are bad at it and it is not their natural advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:12 PM
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Hormones make men hornier just like hormones make women weaker than men. There's biological aspects to these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:12 PM
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Men and women have different natural advantages so what using that advantage would look like would logically be different. Consent autonomy and freedom etc are moral issues but they are not the sole issues that can be moral in nature
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:10 PM
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It creates a birth rate epidemic and an increasing group of lonely people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:08 PM
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Women’s “natural advantage” doesn’t dominate others by force. Yes exactly. So women are held to no standards in terms of their natural advantages right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:05 PM
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Men gave up their strength advantage to take what they want. That absolutely assumes both that men no longer rape and that men want to rape but are choosing not to for the betterment of society. No it implies at some point men started policing each other on it. The idea that men now not wanting to do it means there's no sacrifice is wrong. Look at other countries where women have no rights. What's happening over there? Rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:04 PM
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I didn't say anything about me and hormones dictate men are hornier there's literally nothing men can do about it and desire is not men's fault any more than women's lack of strength is theirs They are both differences due to hormones.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:01 PM
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I pointed out specifically that rape and freedom were not morally comparable and I was not making that argument. Why are so many people saying this when I literally specifically said I'm not saying they are morally comparable?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:00 PM
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Is it a sacrifice when a woman shits after she eats too?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:59 PM
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You said even when you are totally alone. I assumed you were totally alone in a house. I'm sorry that was too large of a leap in logic for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:58 PM
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Of course we are talking about men as a whole. Men complain about women settling because women are doing so unhappily.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:58 PM
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It's not just men that are supposed not to be violent - women as well. Women by their nature as a whole cannot inflict violence on men so they are not making any sacrifice here, in fact it disproportionately benefits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:56 PM
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I'm just giving my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:55 PM
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Becoming the sex toy and incubator of a man who isn't interested in who she is as a person, doesn't solve a woman's loneliness though, on the contrary. I'm interested to hear how society can help them then. But until then, helping some is better than helping none.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:55 PM
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Yes but having 2 or 3 is basically replacement the ones having zero are the problem, again, on a grand scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:54 PM
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You claim women have an "advantage" because they have ownership over their own body, and have the right to not have sex with (certain) men and not get pregnant No. No I didn't say that literally at all. Their advantage is they are desired more. They're freedom is a result of the inhibition of men's advantage of strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:51 PM
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And?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:47 PM
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You think women must give up their rights Where did I say this? My point is not using your natural advantages will look different based on what you're natural advantage is. So yes men and women are held to the same standards. That's the issue. The advantages are different so what giving up your advantage for the good of society is looks different
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:46 PM
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Yes there is, if one sex is expected to give up their natural advantages for the good of all, why isn't the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:42 PM
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Then we just disagree on the philosophical basis of what is moral, but regardless, we can agree men are not able to use their strength to their advantage because it's bad for society. Why are women not expected to do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:40 PM
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Whats immoral about women choosing who they date? This is a strawman. It isn't about women having a choice in the 50s women had a choice and yet 30% of men weren't single and lonely and there wasn't a birth rate crisis. So it's not the choice that changed but the expectations society had of women to be relatively modest and get with their match and marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:39 PM
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This is mens problem, not woman’s. Invert this for men's strength. It's women's problem so who cares? No. That's not right. Neither is it in regards to women's strength
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:36 PM
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No it's not. Women are free to maximize their sexual advantage which is what they naturally desire to do. When a man wants something and that lizard brain says to take it, he's expected to be better than his instincts. Why. Aren't. Women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:34 PM
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I'm not seeing them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:31 PM
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Why does that matter in terms of the point of my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:29 PM
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It literally assumes none of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:29 PM
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I don't know what gave you the impression this post is about you specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:28 PM
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No it's not. Doing heroin every day for example is considered immoral even if you have all the money in the world and do it alone in a cave.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:28 PM
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What other explanation for women not having is there other than women not having kids? What explanation other than women not wanting to date their looksmatch is there for the fact that 30% of men are not dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:26 PM
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Nobody said anything about slavery. Just about not being killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:23 PM
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And they settle happily
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:21 PM
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Moral is not solely defined as doing whatever the individual wants
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:16 PM
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Women exercising their choice to choose a man who is attractive to her is not immoral because it does not strip any man of his individual freedom or autonomy. Men and women have different natural advantages so what using that advantage malt would look like would logically be different. Consent autonomy and freedom etc are moral issues but they are not the sole issues that can be moral in nature
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:13 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about? Yes I'm countries where women do not have rights and men do, it is the men who do not grant the women rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:12 PM
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Women being desirable is a natural advantage. I didn't say anything should be taken from women I said they should be expected to use that advantage morally.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:11 PM
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I didn't say women were doing those things. I said women were being immoral, those are not the only types of morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:10 PM
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No it's the one you're interested in
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:09 PM
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People doing what they want and not doing what they don’t want is good and moral Again, no it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:09 PM
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Men are becoming increasingly not interested just means the number is rising. Not that most don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:06 PM
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Not by any metric. Low birth rates will deplete social security and the elderly will either work till they drop dead or die in poverty without food or Healthcare if they don't get help which is paid for by the younger generation. How is that great? The loneliness epidemic will and has already resulted in young lonely men lashing out. How is that good?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:06 PM
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Dude, did you not read the context? I fully agree consent is important! I'm asking for an explanation as to why it's important IN THE CONTEXT OF WOMEN SAYING THAT THERE IS NO MORALITY IN DATING ETC.*
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:04 PM
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You didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:01 PM
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Women are the only ones who can produce babies how can anyone else be responsible for women's bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:59 PM
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Completely irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:59 PM
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I didn't say it did lmfao. I was addressing your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:59 PM
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Why haven’t you addressed the fact that lower-tier men will be thrown into the meat-grinder? Why would I address that? It's irrelevant to the point. Women being forced to appease those men with sex and relationships will not make the women happy, and it will not protect those men from exploitation and destruction by powerful men. Nobody suggested force. Why do you assume undesirable men want undesirable women? Men overwhelmingly are not picky. Undesirable men want pretty, healthy things, feminin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:57 PM
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This isn't about desire. You're strawmanning
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:53 PM
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This comment doesn't address anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:52 PM
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Rights are determined by those with the power to do so. In what way is acting in a way which is detrimental to all people as a whole moral?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:52 PM
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Please quote me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:51 PM
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Not in the paradigm which you set forth lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:47 PM
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Please quote me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:45 PM
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Might makes right is a concept in and of itself. It doesn't need to be specified, but it is by the following bit
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:45 PM
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They are desired more. You know that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:44 PM
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Morality matters is my point and position. Now why are women not being held to a moral standard? Please note that what a moral standard would look like would be different as the advantages they have are different. A woman being moral with her power of desirability looks different from a man being moral with his power of strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:43 PM
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I never said men should be able to do that. Address what I'm saying. Why should only men be held to a moral standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:41 PM
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How does shooting men serve their nature? Their nature is to take advantage of their desirability to get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:40 PM
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Irrelevant to the low birth rate crisis
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:39 PM
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How does a man alone in a house benefit from strength? How are women using their "advantage" according to you? The vast majority of women are not porn stars. Women as a whole are causing a low birth rate crisis as well as a loneliness epidemic by attempting to leverage their naturally superior desirability to go for men who are tiers above them. This is immoral as it is detrimental to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:38 PM
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Morality is what is good for society. Low birth rates and single lonely men are not good for society and will cause suffering. Roughly 30% of men are not able to get relationships. Why are the undesirable women not dating these undesirable men? Men are expected to not use their natural advantages for the good of society. Why are women not expected to do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:36 PM
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Roughly 30% of men are not in relationship. These men are likely undesirable. Why are the undesirable women not dating these undesirable men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:34 PM
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If morality is irrelevant which you're insisting it is why is it not equivalent? My position is that morality is relevant and neither sex should use their advantages immorally. Your position is what? That women can be held to zero standard of morality?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:33 PM
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I'm using morality as a proxy for what is good for society. Women being picky is not good for society. Women only chasing top tier men is not good die society. Men were expected to stop using their natural advantages for the good of society. Why aren't women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:31 PM
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Irrelevant if men didn't care that same proof exists in countries where women have no rights so the difference is in the men and their morality. This is objectively true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:30 PM
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Why does that matter if morality isn't an issue?! Address the fucking point this is tiresome
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:29 PM
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Women are more desired by the opposite sex. That is their natural advantage. When men would kill each other with sticks and stones women would usually be spared because they were desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:28 PM
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There are equivalents just not comparable in the one aspect you're focusing on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:27 PM
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But why is morality a valid concern for men if it isn't for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:24 PM
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When did I say that I was fine with men taking advantage of women? I didn't! I think men should be held to a standard of morality. I'm asking women why they don't think they should be held to any standard. What about this is hard for you to grasp?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:50 PM
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Why does any of that matter of morality is meaningless in the use of your natural advantages? Or are you saying there is or should be an expectation of morality? Because that's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:49 PM
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You're equivovating based on consent. I'm equivocating based on natural advantages. A woman does not need to violate consent to use her natural advantages.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:48 PM
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I'm not sure of your point since my entire point was that women seem to think might makes right but only when it comes to them and the might they wield.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:45 PM
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Please quote what you're referring to. I think you're confusing morally equal for rough equivalents
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:44 PM
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Women's sexual advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:44 PM
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Your proposal is basically to threaten women that they should fuck men they don’t want, or else men will force them to fuck those same men… No. I think women can be happy and attracted to their equal they just want top tier men more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:43 PM
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They are more desired by men than the inverse. Men are stronger than women. Those two are roughly equivalent. But only men are expected to not use their advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:42 PM
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You are saying we need children for economic and national security. Great. I then get to choose which sperm I want - from an attractive strong man with no family history of serious health conditions, mental health issues, addiction, etc. There is no need for me to even partner with a man I don’t like. Just give me the sperm that is the best for the continuation of this country. The idea that women can know what this looks like is dead wrong. Steven hawking would certainly not be chosen in this s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:41 PM
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I don't think that's accurate. I want women to want to date and fuck their equals, and I think that is totally possible, they just want to fuck top tier men more. And because of their natural advantages, they can likely get a one night stand with chad. But if we are to expect men to behave in a way which is good for society, why should women not be expected to as well? And resist the urge to go after top tier men and instead date their equal because with great power comes great responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:40 PM
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Nothing. But you seem to think I'm advocating for this. I'm not. I'm saying this is how women behave in terms of dating, that might makes right. That they should not be held to any moral standard and be allowed to maximize their advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:35 PM
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And the libido/investment disparity is neither immoral nor an injustice This is exactly what I'm talking about. Women enjoy this advantage naturally and there used to be parity. Men couldn't use their strength advantage and women were expected to be modest and realistic about their standards. Now only men are held to any form of standards while women fully take advantage of their advantage to maximize everything in as ruthless a way as they want
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:32 PM
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This paradigm benefits women more than men to a large degree. Largely women can exercise their natural advantages with no expectation of morality in a society you describe. But that's not equality when only one sex is expected to behave morally.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:31 PM
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Just because it's your choice does not mean it's moral. I'm using the word moral as a proxy for that which is good for society. And the ever increasing choosiness of women is harming society. Increasing unhappiness and loneliness of men and the below replacement birth rates are immoral because they pose a significant threat to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:29 PM
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But that form of morality doesn't inhibit women from using their advantage at all. It only inhibits men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:27 PM
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I don't think it makes a better system it's women who think this but only when it comes to them and how it benefits them. My entire point is to try and get them to understand how short sighted that is. And it seems you agree
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:25 PM
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But my point is not that these things are equal, but why does it matter if they are equal? If women are not expected to be moral with their advantages why should men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:24 PM
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That runs contrary to every study ever and I prefer the numbers to your anecdotes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:23 PM
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Thank you for understanding a lot of other peeps only seem interested in strawman. Do you not find it odd though that the paradigm of society allows for women to take full advantage of their natural advantages but not men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:22 PM
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If might makes right, which is what women say that their natural advantages justify using those advantages to the maximum with zero concern for what is good for society then it quite literally does
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:18 PM
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I didn't say women are taking rights away. I said why does it matter if there's no expectation of morality?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:17 PM
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I'm not understanding your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:17 PM
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Yes but women were expected to understand this and limit it to the best of their abilities in modern times women understand it and use it to their maximum advantage
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:15 PM
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No they aren't. Women are not held to any standards for theirs. They can freely exercise their advantage to the fullest extent and if the birth rate collapses and over half of men end up single oh well
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:14 PM
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I didn't say they were the same thing. I specifically addressed this when I said that if there's no expectation of morality for women why should there be for men. It's pretty convenient that in this discussion women seem to be taking the position that they should not be expected to be moral with their natural advantages because using their natural advantage is viewed as not taking advantage of someone. So only one sex should be allowed to use their natural advantages?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:11 PM
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Why should men care about that if natural advantages don't carry the expectation of morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:08 PM
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A man raping a woman is illegal. A woman disarming a man with her good looks and then stealing his wallet is illegal. The equivalent would be relationship tricking a man and constantly asking him for money which is very much legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:07 PM
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I'm having trouble with this phrasing. What?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:06 PM
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Men absolutely by every survey want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:06 PM
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No I'd prefer they use their natural advantages morally as men are expected to. Please notice how men not being able to use their natural advantages is not framed as some injustice because it is for the good of all but when it's women we are talking about suddenly there's moral outrage. Why? Why are only men expected to reject the advantages nature gave them for the good of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:04 PM
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I explained this very specifically in the previous comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:02 PM
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It absolutely can be taken away it doesn't exist in many areas. And if there's no expectation of morality in terms of using the advantages nature gives you, why would men not take you'll if it benefits men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:01 PM
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Women are more sexually desired so they increasingly are only going for the top men. Having upwards of 30% of men be single is terrible for society. Having below replacement birth rate is awful for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:59 PM
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now to keep woman second class was equivalent to slavery. So men allowed them to have rights lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:58 PM
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A man using his capacity to take rights away from people is extremely different and extremely amoral compared to a woman using her capacity to choose who she has sex with. If there's no expectation of morality at all why does it matter? How is a woman choosing her sexual partner at all related to morality? I'm having trouble understanding what you mean. How is women's rights a morality issue? Because we as a society have decided it's good to have rights and the ones with the might allowed it. No…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:53 PM
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By every survey women find average men to look below average. So it's kind of hard to figure out whose standard is correct. Knee jerk I'd say the average men you see are probably above average but when it gets into the anecdotal it's hard to find a consensus.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:46 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean here
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:39 PM
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Very unhinged response which does nothing to address my point. Why are only men expected to use their natural advantages morally?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:39 PM
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I didn't say that it was. That situation is kinda outside the realm of the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:38 PM
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It looks like it used to, pairing up because that's what is good for society, relative chastity because infidelity is bad for society. Undesirable women get with Undesirable men etc. Look at the birth rate which is below replacement, this is bad for society. It's bad for everyone, but women are not expected to make any sacrifice of their natural advantages for society the way Men were. This is seen as a violation, when men did so willingly
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:37 PM
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you take advantage of your natural advantages up until you are forcing someone to do something they don't want to do and violating their legal and physical rights. Rights are given by those who have the might. Men are naturally strong! If a man wants to lift a woman up to show off, and she's okay with that, they can do that! If he wants to have sex with her and she says no, he should stop! Yes this right here is my point. Men are expected to act morally with their natural advantages, which I agr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:35 PM
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I didn't say anything about men's desperation or what the standard of behavior is. I don't know where you're getting this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:33 PM
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Nobody has the right to have sex with you if you don't want it. Rights can be given and taken by those with the capacity to do so. This is circular logic. Using your advantages to date who you want, even if it's only high quality men, is not removing the rights of anyone else. I didn't say it was, I said that if there is no responsibility to use your advantages in a moral way for women, why should men be expected to be the only ones who restrain their happiness for the sake of morality? Because …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:32 PM
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And obviously only the individual can decide if their happiness outweighs their suffering in life. Such would indicate that the only moral thing to do is have children because only the children can decide. The nature of life imposes suffering. Blaming the mother or father is Illogical in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:28 PM
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Why would consensual matter? Natural advantages are amoral good and to be taken advantage of to the fullest I thought? Seems an awfully convenient position for women to take, since it is what lends itself to their advantage in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:25 PM
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I addressed this. I didn't say they were the same. I said if the usage of your natural advantages is amoral what difference does it make? And by necessity nothing occurs in a vacuum.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:23 PM
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So, if you decide to create a human, you guarantee that they will suffer, but you can't guarantee that they will also be happy. Even more, you can't guarantee that their potential happiness will outweigh their guaranteed suffering. You can decide to give them a happy life and work towards that goal. Who are you to decide now much happiness outweighs one sad moment?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:15 PM
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I don't believe at all this is how conversations go here. The women here are so sensitive they see anything short of yarss kuween slay!!! As an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 02:52 PM
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Do you think it makes sense that women will be honest if they are called lustful shallow gold digging whores? If that's what they are, why would they care?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 02:11 PM
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I used that terminology to illustrate what occurs is a natural bodily function.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 12:51 AM
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Why is the default assumption a man doesn't have a job and is drug addicted? The fact that nature chose women to be the one to fart out babies does not mean their standards cannot be too high that's absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 12:05 AM
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It doesn't answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 11:26 PM
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You're the one who made the claim. Why would just a normal dude be default undesirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 11:24 PM
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Why would they by default bring nothing to a partnership or fatherhood?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 11:15 PM
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Why would a person as they are be worth nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 11:06 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 10:14 PM
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Think of every moment of happiness you've ever had. That's what you're saying no other human should ever get to experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 10:10 PM
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Well sure, but the Red Pill foundation is essentially “for four easy payments of 9.99, you too can find out how women’s software works!” It’s the monthly subscription version of dating
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:26 PM
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I really don't care how you want to phrase it the point is it's not being paid for
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:51 PM
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Yet again, men in Japan want families.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:22 PM
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Utter nonsense men rate women on a bell curve while women rate everyone under an 8 undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:13 PM
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The issue is that's not the case anymore. Undesirable women no longer seem to want Undesirable men. That's a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:07 PM
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Who is collectively choosing it though? It seems like most men want families.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:01 PM
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I'm not sure how it makes you a simp. So the only way to not be a simp is to be broke and physically unappealing?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:56 PM
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Nothing wrong with the extinction of the human race? That's principally the most wrong thing which could happen to humans. What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:55 PM
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And it used to be that not very desirable men would get with not very desirable women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:54 PM
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They are simply using the type of bait the fish they'd like to capture prefer. Please note this is an analogy, not meant to suggest women are fish.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:50 PM
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Who is paying for red pill knowledge?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:48 PM
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Women are performatively empathetic. They make a show of it. They might even actually feel worse. But they don't actually do shit about it. Empathy without action is empty and performative. Like a guy will hear a woman is having problems and offer to help her move, give her a ride etc. Women will not do these things for men. Men give more to charity, as another example.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:05 PM
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I don't subscribe to the trust your gut thing it implies some sort of psychic potential in women which does not exist and things like the halo and horns effect are exacerbated by this kind of thinking. So choose better is never good advice
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:41 PM
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Relatively speaking, if an average woman gets on a dating app, she has so many options that they are functionally infinite. Because she can't possibly converse with and meet up with as many guys as would respond to her. Women keep saying the advice to choose better is bad advice to women. So what would be good advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:32 PM
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Stop consuming RP content online. Learn about media literacy. Learn about confirmation bias. Stop blaming women for everything and do a little introspection. This isn't saying what advice they should be giving. Women don’t have infinite options compared to men. Disagree. That doesn’t even make sense. How? They might have more options, but it doesn’t give men the right to blame all their dating woes on women and absolve men of responsibility for shitty behaviour. This is not about man's bad behav…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:16 PM
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Yes but one is more attractive. Now does the second woman stop being attractive because the first one is more attractive? This is relevant because the idea that the issue is not being able to force attraction implies that the only men women can find attractive are the ones they date or pursue. But I'm suggesting a lot of time it's just the hotter of two guys that they are pursuing. So it's not that there was no attraction or whatever, more so that they go for the most attractive regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:13 PM
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And I clarified what I meant in the second comment. Now, does one woman stop being attractive all together when the other is more attractive to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:48 PM
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Men don't have nearly as many options
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:20 PM
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Yet again, one time they "slum" likely ever so slightly below their standards, they enter it with the same preconceptions as you, and they self fulfill the prophecy. A good looking man cheating on a woman will be seen as better then a less good looking man bringing her flowers due to the halo effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:14 PM
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I'm having trouble keeping up. How could one be true but not the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:12 PM
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Do you believe your experience from an incredibly limited sample size is the universal experience of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:07 PM
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Doesn't that defeat the contention of women that there's no such thing as objectively attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:53 PM
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What are you talking about? Your perception that men in here "talk shit" about women is flawed, but even if we aren't talking specifically about the men here
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:51 PM
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Someone who feels they don't got any options will make things work which comes at a cost. Which in the long run will result in things that a lot of people here seem to fear. Stuff like dead badrooms for example. That is not a direct result of the man being willing to do whatever it takes for the relationship. but there are many cases which are way milder but still go in the same direction. And yet this logic doesn't apply to good looking men? Like your argument is fine and all if you just want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:35 PM
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I literally just said that you found the person attractive. Are you having trouble reading? If you see two hot Girls and one is a bit more attractive, is the less attractive but still hot of the two suddenly completely unattractive to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:18 PM
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He could, but he also could be really appreciative and that quote is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:16 PM
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Why would you bother looking for his insta or browser history and why would you assume a good looking guy doesn't look at porn? You'd be more tormented by a good looking guys insta because he actually gets messaged by the women so they can come blow him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:16 PM
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That's actually about an action though? They want enthusiastic sex. This isn't an action you're talking about, it's an idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:15 PM
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Ugly men are upset they don't get a chance. Hot men get other men's wives throwing they're pussys at them despite them being in relationships. Now, if you give the guy upset he doesn't get a chance, a chance, he could respond positively. But why would the hot guy think better of woman's nature after seeing women willing to blow him in the club bathroom are married with kids at home? I'll tell you, he doesn't think women are better than does the man who didn't get a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:14 PM
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I would argue those who know their worth are way better to date. Because they won't bs around as much. If things aren't working out then they aren't as likely to waste everyones time. Another way to phrase this is they are unwilling to put in any effort. If things aren't perfect, they can drop you and have another girl over in 20 minutes. And if you want to argue that uglier people develop better personalitis by necessity, I will counter it that they are as likely to become bitter because they t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:12 PM
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I've heard this before, so it seem like women don't really care about being cheated on and care more about their own egos. Because if she gets cheated on at least the guy was hot
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:04 PM
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Based on what? Attractive men don't have bad experiences with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:54 PM
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I don't understand here the attractive man is less likely to cheat because he has plenty of opportunities to and the less opportunities you have the more likely you are to cheat?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:51 PM
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If someone said "you keep eating from food trucks and you will get what's coming to you" are they threatening sexual assault? No they are warning you eating from food trucks is a bad idea. Similarly it seems likely to me he is warning you the outcome of choosing a man who doesn't care about waiting for sex will not be a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:37 PM
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I don't even know how you'd verify that scientifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:33 PM
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I don't really know what you mean. You never thought to yourself "she's all right looking but I could do better"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:32 PM
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Women can actively pursue men, men will happily oblige. I've been hit in by women beneath my standards before, and spent the night with them etc. But women seem to view men below their standards hitting on them as an insult and go out of their way to try and humiliate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:32 PM
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Every woman has these anecdotes but statistically speaking 30% (and rising) of men can't get relationships. Fully one third of men are not chosen by default. And of the remaining men, the majority seem to struggle and maybe if they are lucky get into a relationship. It's only like 20ish percent of men who have it easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:30 PM
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Women have functionally infinite options compared to men so it isn't a double standard because all else isn't equal. But let's say this is a real issue. What advice should men be giving?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:27 PM
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A person who can take any car off the car lot at any moment is less likely to value their car. A person who has a used Honda but that's all they can afford will value that car more. That's human nature. A man whose phone and social media is full of women eager to blow him at the drop of a hat is not as likely to value any one specific woman as much as a guy who doesn't have that going on. This isn't about better personalities (although the argument could be made that uglier people do develop bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:26 PM
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and I felt like I could do better I would suggest that this means you didn't really give him a fighting chance. It's about percentages. The idea that men who don't get picked hate women more than men who see women's nature is bunk. Very very handsome men get hit on by women in relationships all the time for example. How would this not result in a less positive view of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:20 PM
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The halo effect likely clouds women's perception on the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:17 PM
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Not with that attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:16 AM
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"you're going to get what's coming to you" sounds a hell lot more like "you're going to get whats deserved" rather than "you'll end up with someone you don't like." Contextually no it does not. And the guy who waits patiently sounds like a guy who is unwilling to take charge and go for what he wants. Or maybe low sex drive, or doesn't find you that attractive etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:36 AM
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"you're never going to be successful with this strategy, and if you keep trying it, you're going to get what's coming to you." So essentially, If I make men wait I'll get raped and deserve it. What the fuck? Why do you assume he meant you would be raped? And not that you would not like the guy you'd end up with?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:22 AM
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Being a bit insecure is natural. If you are utterly secure you don't feature improvement. Being a bit insecure leads to people trying their best to keep their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:32 AM
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I think being a bit insecure is actually beneficial for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:23 AM
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When I say that I'm referring to when the women near them are actively sad and complaining about being used. Would she choose to fuck a man she’s attracted to or would she choose to fuck a man she’s not attracted to? Nobody is suggesting women fuck men they are not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:07 AM
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They are more likely to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:03 AM
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Nobody disputes that. It's about percentages.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:03 AM
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You seem to be going off on strange rants instead of trying to have a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:59 AM
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Pick people you're attracted to. But being attracted is a spectrum. And am what men are suggesting is if you're being used and mistreated, if you go for men on the lower end of the spectrum of people you're attracted to, you might have better luck because those men will appreciate you and the relationship more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:57 AM
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If you read about the halo effect, men that are seen as handsome tend to treat people better cause they don’t have a chip on their shoulder or the urge to compete with one/compare himself to one That is not what the halo effect is. It has nothing to do with not having a chip on your shoulder or not being competitive. He knows he’s competing against other men in the dating market, not the women themselves. I have no idea what you're talking about here. Average men understand they are competing ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:55 AM
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What does this have to do with my comment? And men do not have the options women do. It's get with the women who show interest in him or nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:41 AM
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Yeah I don't believe I said that. They can be losers though despite all the advantages they get. Regardless often when women talk about their deadbeat boyfriends they are losers from the point of view of women and relationships specifically because they will not do what is necessary to make the woman happy or make the relationship work. Specifically because these men are so in demand they could replace the woman easily. Their phone is full of dms of women who would come to their house and blow t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:39 AM
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How's this about me?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:34 AM
9

Whereas your anecdote was chalk full of value
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:29 AM
16

There's a difference between taking care of your appearance and being a 9 or 10 out of 10. You can't shower and groom yourself into being that attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:29 AM
5

Lmfao. Sure. And pigs fly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:25 AM
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This is a weird take. When men say not to pick losers they are criticizing women who choose losers because they are handsome. So the message is, give a decent looking bloke a chance. The message women strawman this into, is "men told us to be pickier!" But then instead of prioritizing positive aspects over looks, they simply keep their looks standards and add more standards on top of that, which further narrows the pool of men they are willing to date. Men are telling women to widen their scope …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:19 AM
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Go ahead and report me lmfao me saying how i interpret your statement, even if you think I'm wrong, does not break the rules of this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:32 PM
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Didn’t say that But if they are unhappy only they get to decide. That's my point. You're attitude means you support all of the things I suggested. You don't need to explicitly say you support these things, these are the implications of what you support.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:15 PM
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Yeah that's just what I said in less detail.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:02 PM
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Being gay isn't a choice homophobe
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:04 AM
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This attitude doesn't make sense. The moment you're unhappy for any reason it's the nuclear option? People are unhappy from time to time in their day to day life while they are single. The idea that this ceases when they get into a relationship is dog water dumb. So you have a bad day, you just feel unhappy, but you knee jerk blame the relationship? Everyone is responsible for their own happiness. Barring some very obvious problem, the first reaction to unhappiness should be to take responsibili…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 09:29 AM
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You decided this off of one example in your life? Nobody said all men are great leaders.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 02:41 PM
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I asked you why he would do that. Your response was you like to do that. Not why he would.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 06:39 PM
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That's not really an answer though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 06:29 PM
3

Why would he be exclusive to a person he is not in a relationship with yet
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 05:35 PM
1

In what way
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 07:26 PM
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I remember my own points. Just don't see how these relate to my points.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:56 PM
2

Not really sure what your point is here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:17 PM
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Men learned this from women. Women don't value men who are of no use to them either! Men used to go out of their way to help women young and old indiscriminately. Society shifted when women demanded it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:48 PM
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No. Not after that long and 4 kids. Even if that are true, you seem to agree it's not his fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 01:10 PM
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Not at all. Men pursue (hunt) women simply sit around and take their pick (buffet) its not a double standard because it's not the same action.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 02:05 PM
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I tell you why the double standard you claim to not understand exists. You do not address the explanation I've provided at all. Y.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:56 PM
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But by every statistic men do so happily. It's not the settling that's the issue so much as women's inherent dissatisfaction with settling
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 09:08 PM
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You tell me that women are not crying in "situationships" and prefer to share a man in public? This is what I'm responding to. Obviously women do not prefer to share men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 07:27 PM
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Be that as it may its not relevant to my point, which is explaining why there's a double standard. Because men are expected to pursue (hunt) and women are passive it's like the women are at a buffet. And if they eat too much at the buffet they becoming metaphorically fat. Now picture a very fat woman smacking her lips at her tenth tray of food, gravy dripping down her second chin onto her moomoo. This is the equivalent of a very slutty woman. It's pure gluttony and it's disgusting to people. Whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:30 PM
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Men don't have functionally unlimited options. That's the difference. Women can find the kind of guy they want by being discerning. Most men cannot afford to be discerning because they get so few options
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:18 PM
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There's entire websites dedicated to women making sure they aren't sharing the guy they are sleeping with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:15 PM
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A man who gets a lot of women is like a good hunter. A woman who sleeps with a lot of men is like a fat woman at a buffet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:40 PM
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You're the one dodging the point. The minority of men had them. So the idea that women were being discriminated ignores that most men were unable as well. This is the apex fallacy. Only the business owners and people who made lots of money could get them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 06:16 PM
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Very few people had credit cards in the 70s this is apex fallacy nonsense. And this post is not about feminist victim porn
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 06:03 PM
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This is just hysteria
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 03:35 PM
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I don't understand why they do this but I do not believe that they actually think what they are claiming it's like some weird compulsion for them to lie. It's like they are so emotional about the topic that they cannot even begin to live in a realm of facts. Pretty wild to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:55 PM
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This implies that there is no nurture aspect. If you're never taught or exposed to the concept that cheating is wrong, you may not realize that it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:29 PM
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You seem to want to use ad hominem instead of address what's being said. Why do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:19 PM
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I'm sorry? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:14 PM
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We can't simply assume that because we know it used to happen, that it was always occurring at the same rates. If you think logically, shaming reduced the frequency because the social stigma had a greater impact when you got found out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:14 PM
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What is?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:13 PM
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The assumption that any and every complaint about the dating world is based on sour grapes is an anti intellectual way to dismiss people without having to address whether they are right. It's a pre-emptive ad hominem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:12 PM
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The idea that since cheating still happened shaming was useless is absurd. Cheating happened less frequently when shaming was a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:11 PM
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Sigh. This nonsense again. Nobody is saying women need to give their bodies to men who they are not attracted to. But even if they were, men are willing to sleep with women they aren't attracted to so you're wrong both ways
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:09 PM
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Why would the same not be true vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:19 PM
3

Yes, society and it's gynocentric nature make their lives more difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 03:01 PM
1

Agree to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:47 PM
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Men are not broken women. They do not bond like women do. They do not socially interact like women do. This is not selfishness. Because it is simply the way men interact. Men see the way women interact and think it's flawed and broken in comparison but they understand women are not faulty men. Women are just so gynocentric they cannot fathom that their way is not the only way and men aren't broken women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:14 PM
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Boring means none of her friends find him attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:11 PM
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Well of course because women would not describe what they want as drama it's all about perception but a lot of what women want in men's point of view is drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:10 PM
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Again, you're not privy to what happens in people's bedrooms
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:38 PM
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Completely speculative you don't know what hat happens behind closed doors
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:32 PM
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Complete speculation
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:27 PM
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Maybe they experienced it or witnessed it in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:27 PM
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How are you so sure it's because of porn and not simply something they wanted to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:26 PM
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And what did you read that led you to that conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:22 PM
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What? How did you come up with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:14 PM
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Yes because it could be for any, and no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:30 PM
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That's the point though. If we can agree that a problem is still a problem if it doesn't effect the majority of people, then we need to not dismiss the struggling single men based on amount. We need a different argument. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 12:58 AM
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The point of comparison is the frequency. If something isn't a problem unless it effects the majority of people, then rape isn't a problem. If something is a problem despite not effecting over half the population, then the dismissal of single struggling men is inappropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 12:51 AM
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... The comparison is people act like rape is a huge problem because it happens so often and the amount of men being single is not important because most people aren't single. So the comparison is that when it's x it's a big deal despite not effecting most people, and if it's y it isn't a big deal because it's not effective most people. It's selective outrage. Rape is seen, rightly or wrongly as a problem with effects mostly women. Therefore it's a problem regardless of it effecting the minority…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 12:08 AM
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Debate your imaginary women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:48 PM
2

Again, I literally pointed out it could be for no reason what so ever
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:29 PM
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``Sometimes you can do everything right and still lose. That's not weakness, that's life.'' - Captain Jean-Luc Picard. Therapy I guess might help to accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 07:00 PM
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``Sometimes you can do everything right and still lose. That's not weakness, that's life.'' - Captain Jean-Luc Picard. You can through no fault of your own not succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 06:56 PM
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I'm simply saying if it's not therapy won't help, not saying I have the solution
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 06:28 PM
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This assumes that the reason for the loneliness is within your control
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 06:27 PM
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It's not being compared to rape but the way rape is discussed
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 04:45 PM
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But... you don't get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 06:00 AM
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You say you understand but you're still insisting that he's doing something he's not. And what is this good luck and carry on nonsense?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:54 AM
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Again, the issues themselves are not being compared merely the way the two are discussed. Being single and rape are not being compared. What is so hard to understand about that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:48 AM
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The comparison is way the two are discussed, not the two events. Can you not understand that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:42 AM
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I thought that men that were honest were successful as long as they were honest? And if a woman gets used for sex by a guy she doesn't find attractive her standards are completely broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 05:25 PM
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But the way to avoid losing value is to have sex only with those who intend to commit so what you're saying makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 05:22 PM
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It is 100% not at all what he said
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 05:13 PM
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Women live longer than men so they are more than half the voting block.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 03:13 AM
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I have never been concerned if other men find my gf attractive in fact I'd rather they didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:51 PM
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This is simply false. There's no reason for the court to do this especially if the mother says no to it. Child support enforcement desires money and nothing else. This threatens the flow of money to the mother, so it would take something extraordinary to do so. Just because it can and has happened, doesn't mean it is something you can just do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:19 PM
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The court cannot order this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:15 PM
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And the woman can refuse that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:11 PM
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The woman can simply refuse the test
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:49 PM
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Third is not separated by age. But 5.17 million more women, with the difference projected to decrease to around 3 million by 2027. How can men out vote women when there's 8 million more women? Lmfao. No. No fault divorce helps those who want to divorce. Which statistically is women between 70 and 80% of the time. I swear if you guys spent a fourth of the time you spend on here actually researching these topics, it would go a long way in your lives. Please find a way to stow your condescension.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:25 AM
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Yeah that's a separate argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:20 AM
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Women live longer and the voting age difference is greater. None of those things you mentioned help men. Men want to stay married.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:19 AM
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Yes sorry if it wasn't clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:10 AM
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Definitely but women can refuse so we need to make it automatic and illegal to refuse. But women will never agree to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:09 AM
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Your second paragraph is nonsensical in terms of the topic. I'm not suggesting this is happening now. All I'm suggesting is that for it to ever work, when it becomes a vote, women need to vote with men, or it will never happen. And it likely will never occur if women do not express a willingness to work with men. It costs money to put forth a bill etc and if women express they don't want to support this, nobody is going to waste the time and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:08 AM
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How is that rightful? Just to ensure you're not raising another man's kid is despicable?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:04 AM
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Women don't need to organize anything. They simply need to vote in line with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:00 AM
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They will simply do so for you to know how fucked you've been.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:57 AM
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Nope. The courts will not accept non court provided tests and even when paternity is proven you still have to pay child support because fuck men lolz
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:53 AM
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The woman can refuse. And you will still need to pay. Please read.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:51 AM
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Okay. So...?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:51 AM
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Most useless comment so far! Bravo!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:46 AM
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Women outnumber men as they live longer which results in them being a larger part of the voting block. I don't think men are choosing to die, so the issue isn't one men can voluntarily solve. And please notice yet again, the complete unwillingness of women to do literally anything to help men. It's all on men to solve any and all problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:45 AM
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Yeah... if your name is on the birth certificate you gonna pay. And to do a paternity test before that is risky so they will not do so. So you'd literally have to refuse to sign the birth certificate which if it ends up being your kid, I'm assuming the woman is going to be pretty upset about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:41 AM
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I'm not sure what me trusting anything has to do with anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:39 AM
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Women are majority of the voting base. Men can do nothing without women approving. Women didn't rally together to do shit except bitch. Men listened to women. Women got what they wanted by complaining and men listening. Women will not listen to men. Women do not care about men. Your comment proved this when you said "why don't men fix this?" When women wanted rights they said "men need to fix this." When men need women's help? It's also men need to fix this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:34 AM
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I literally just said they still don't care and you will still pay child support. And if the woman refuses the court will absolutely not force her. So even if that could work women would just say no
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:27 AM
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Nope. The courts will not accept non court provided tests and even when paternity is proven you still have to pay child support because fuck men lolz
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:23 AM
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Why not? Could it not be men are more likely to value keeping their word? I mean the society where marriage was the norm was patriarchal right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 03:21 AM
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Dude yes. Don't get married if you're not sure and not willing to take the hits. You're exactly right
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 01:38 AM
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I mean, do vows mean nothing? If you swear to stay for better or for worse etc, then when the going gets tough you split, isn't that problematic?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 12:48 AM
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You're correct but also ignoring the point he's making, why are lesbian divorced roughly 3x higher than gay men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 12:47 AM
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The only difference is you think one is bad and the other isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 05:16 PM
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From a married lady of 15 years in a very happy, equal and complimentary relationship. Oh such proof!!!! Lmfao. Being submissive does not mean you can't be a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 04:01 PM
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Two people on a tennis team are partners but one may always vastly out score the other be more offensive, while the other plays passively and does better on defense. They are partners and they compliment each other by one being the dominant and the other being the defensive. But by your estimation, they aren't partners unless they are both equally offensive and defensive, score exactly the same amounts etc? No. In real life partnerships made out of different but complimentary roles are the reali…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 03:40 PM
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I mean, you can, since you just said you might cut a kid off if you felt it was for their own good
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 03:30 PM
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I do imagine the parents in these situations believe it's a for their own good situation. Like if they cut the kids off, they hope it will stop them from being gay which the parents believe will benefit the kids in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 03:22 PM
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I don't really see these things as unconditional. If someone is actively harming you, it isn't conditional in any logical way to remain with them. But there's a GIANT leap from that to gold diggers and the general way modern women behave where it's not about avoiding active harm but maximizing value in a shrewd calculating manner. There's nuance here
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 03:20 PM
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part·ner1 noun 1. either of a pair of people engaged together in the same activity. I think where you're getting confused is that's not what partner means.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 03:16 PM
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You can have a submissive partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 03:14 PM
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I addressed that when I said her experience isn't universal, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 09:21 PM
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Of course there are women with particularly large breasts that make it impossible to conceal them to any reasonable degree. But that's not a universal experience and often women purposely accentuate their breasts. His comment seemed to be referring to the latter while you want to make it about the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 02:01 AM
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How can I argue with someone's unproven unprovable anecdote?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 12:46 AM
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Please reread my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 12:46 AM
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I didn't claim a t-shirt did anything. Of course there are women with particularly large breasts that make it impossible to conceal them to any reasonable degree. But that's not a universal experience and often women purposely accentuate their breasts. His comment seemed to be referring to the latter while you want to make it about the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 10:05 PM
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I haven't imposed any ideas on anyone. And if the sexual harassment is saying things like that, that is not the harassment to which I refer, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 09:44 PM
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Doesn't really matter. To come on a post about men's and women's issues broadly and go "well me!!" Is not really on topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 09:43 PM
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They most certainly are falsely labeling a man hitting on them or even making an off color joke sexual harassment. There's so many millions of possible interactions asking me to list them would be a complete waste of time. If a guy asks you out and you say "maybe some other time" and he asks you out again later, not harassment. If a guy asks you out and you say "never in a million years" and he asks you out again, that's harassment. Of course there will be so many scenarios in between these two …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 09:40 PM
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As any sane person would. Repeated attention which is inappropriate after it was made clear to the person the attention was unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 09:31 PM
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That's not at all what I asked. You said "not at my job" and explained how you would react to the situation. Now, do you think that experience is universal? Try thinking about someone other than yourself and what you would feel and do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 09:17 PM
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Islam has cultural differences it's silly to suggest that the only correlation there is the way they dress.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 09:00 PM
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Why is it when these topics come up women always go " well I!" This is not about you. Maybe you have a unique experience. Try and think about how your experience might not be universal for half a second.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 08:58 PM
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Let's not make this exaggeration. Getting attention because of how you're dressed is not harassment and it's not victim blaming to point out the correlation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 08:57 PM
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Do you believe your experience is universal?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 08:56 PM
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Your words don't describe me at all. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Look at the words I'm saying and the point I'm making. Either it's right or wrong. Whether you think you're psychic and you believe x y or z about me or anyone, doesn't change that either their points are right or wrong. Address the points like a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 02:12 AM
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They see themselves as essentially blameless, and it's the world around them that is against them. They are permanent victims and take no responsibility for the part they play in their own struggles. This is not a description of a good person. Their opinion did not indicate any of this. See this "struck a nerve" nonsense? This is the kind of stuff I'm talking about. I disagreed with you. You didn't "strike a nerve" just because I think you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 01:33 AM
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At the end of the day, every single one of the posts on this sub make it entirely evident why the poster struggles the way they do. It's made evident in the views they have and the lense in which they view the world through. They see themselves as essentially blameless, and it's the world around them that is against them. They are permanent victims and take no responsibility for the part they play in their own struggles. Why do you even feel the need to wonder about their personal status and liv…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:51 PM
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The point is the point regardless of my personal situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:00 PM
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This isn't about me. And women have control over their fertility without abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 02:03 PM
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I said it was not an argument and you claimed it was now you're claiming it's not and doesn't need to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 01:32 PM
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"Good thing you don't make the law" is not an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 01:26 PM
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Not an argument
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 01:24 PM
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It isn't force to not do something. Force must be applied. It's force to give someone an abortion they don't want. It's not force to not give someone an abortion they do want. Because you're doing nothing to them and doing nothing to someone isn't force. If a wife wants a hitman to kill her husband, and he refuses, is he using force on her? No he's doing nothing to her. If a man wants sex from a woman and she refuses is she using force on him? No she's doing nothing to him. So we can now see tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 01:11 PM
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That's completely false. My wife pursued me. Men don't care about that stuff. Correlation doesn't equal causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 02:18 AM
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If a woman gets used for sex multiple times it's because she's shooting out of her league. Statistically speaking the vast majority of men want a girlfriend and eventually a wife and a family. If a man is using a woman for sex its because he does not want to make her his girlfriend or eventual wife. Likely because she does not meet his attraction standard. So women need to lower their standards if they are looking for a relationship and they are getting used for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:12 PM
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It is not black pill woe is me or incel to say that there is a large genetic component to attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:45 PM
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Yes exactly which is why if men became more picky and less attracted to women, human kind would cease to exist. Men are keeping the species alive. And you're shaming them for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:35 PM
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Yes we are lmfao we are currently at below replacement rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:29 PM
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The issue is that a lot of men would have to go for a woman they aren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:26 PM
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If men stopped being attracted to women society would die out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:07 PM
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Be better is meaningless when the criteria is largely genetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:04 PM
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Please provide actual examples of said safety nets and leeways and explain how they statistically impact the majority of the female gender differently than the male gender because we’re gunna need an actual demonstrable argument here to take your claims seriously If you took the time to read this is what I was responding to. Also it's easy comparative to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:14 AM
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Again, it's one example of an advantage not the thing which the entire claim hinges on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:04 AM
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It's an example of a safety net men don't have to nearly the same extent
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:47 AM
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Nobody said women don't face hardships at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:56 PM
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Homeless and abuse shelters that cater specifically to women outnumber men's specifically. Safety nets? Check Women get less jail time and less severe punishments than men across the board. Leeway? Check. And these are just two examples off the very top of my head. There.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:56 PM
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Here we go again. Men's problems are for men to solve and women's are for everyone!!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:54 PM
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Wait when it's both sexes are equally fat it's okay but if it's women who are fatter suddenly it's boohoo to me? You think the only reason it's an issue to be morbidly obese is that men don't find them attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:20 PM
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Yes let's disregard that it's both more frequent to be overweight in women and more severe with women because reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:56 PM
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It is true pretty much twice as many women are morbidly obese than men statistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:51 PM
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Fast Facts According to 2017–2018 data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES) If you click the link i supplied this is the first thing which it says.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:50 PM
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prevalence of obesity among adults ages 20 and over, by sex and age: United States, 2017–2018 Where are you getting twenty years?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:49 PM
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More than 1 in 3 men (34.1%) and more than 1 in 4 women (27.5%) are overweight. Also from the study so women beat men by proportion and severity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:46 PM
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity%23:~:text%3DThe%2520percentage%2520of%2520women%2520who%2520have%2520severe%2520obesity%2520(11.5%2525),have%2520severe%2520obesity%2520(6.9%2525).&ved=2ahUKEwiPvpfZtqqKAxXiMzQIHcN_HhYQFnoECBEQBQ&usg=AOvVaw2nLjkRz0spv97n1RP836aM
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:46 PM
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The percentage of women who have severe obesity (11.5%) is higher than the percentage of men who have severe obesity (6.9%). https://www.niddk.nih.gov › over... Overweight & Obesity Statistics - NIDDK Basically twice as many women meet the mark of morbidly obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:42 PM
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While the proportion of people are similar, the severity is very different. The men are mostly just passed the bar for being obese while the women are severely obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:24 PM
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Good is women not sleeping with you and you still putting your life on the line. Bad is woman sleeping with you apparently. Also bad is you not putting your life on the line. So she wants men sexless and dead. That is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:21 PM
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What the fuck? White people stoke tech from china!?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 05:14 AM
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K
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:05 PM
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What
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:05 PM
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I didn't suggest anything of the sort wtf are you talking
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:01 PM
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I'm not taking issue with women who say they don't need a husband or boyfriend just those who say women don't need men. It sounds like you'd rather assign a point of view to me than engage with my actual point of view
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:51 PM
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I don't care if they mean something else. What they are saying isn't true. Maybe what they mean is true. But what they are saying isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:45 PM
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Women don't like doing backbreaking labor because it's difficult and they can't keep up with the expectations because men will work circles around them when it comes to moving heavy things
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:36 PM
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Ah what ridiculous nonsense. Women's rights only exist because good men allow it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:33 PM
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Women would rather not do the backbreaking hard labor, because it's backbreaking and hard. And they can't physically keep up with the men doing it so they all only slow down the labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:31 PM
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I think the argument is more that there's nothing a woman can do that a man can't outside of reproduction. There's jobs that are absolutely vital that women in general literally cannot physically do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:23 PM
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