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6

Maybe you're just not as attractive as you think you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 02:47 PM
2

Oh, Addie...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 02:51 PM
6

Again, sounds like you have a pretty black and white view on human behaviour so more power to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 02:00 PM
6

I don't think that's it. I've also had a non-sheltered life and that's precisely what leads me to believe that perspectives.on what makes someone a bad boy are entirely relative and dependent on the individual and the setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 01:50 PM
3

Sounds like you're never going to be convinced otherwise, so more power to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 01:47 PM
4

I was kind of being hyperbolic but do you see my actual point where you don't have to be a gangbanging drug dealing sociopath to be considered a bad boy and it's all relative?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 01:41 PM
6

Surely being a bad boy is a spectrum that ranges from kind of edgy to literally Hitler
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 01:37 PM
1

Because we were put on this Earth to suffer
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 01:28 PM
3

I'll give you that, although I think the entire industry should be viewed positively, from johns to escorts
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:24 PM
2

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 08:02 AM
1

I really don't see how debating with interesting points of view and not caring about what that other person said are mutually exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 07:09 AM
-1

lmao I debate people whose points of view I find interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 06:35 AM
2

Clever
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 04:42 AM
7

By the same people who look down on everyone anyway, yes, but the more popular mainstream narrative is that sex work is valid and sex workers are brave and strong but Johns are human garbage who have failed as men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 04:37 AM
2

I'm very nice to escorts, I'm only a dick to everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 04:16 AM
1

I'm dismissive of everyone. Check this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 04:08 AM
3

Not really. I'm not a particularly interesting or complex man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 03:59 AM
-3

I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 03:47 AM
3

Please do make this about yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 03:20 AM
135

I don't know about better off, but I resigned myself to being alone a long time ago and I've regularly visited escorts ever since. It's a great way to clear my head, deal with the dark thoughts when they get to be too much and recenter myself on the things in life that matter. I find it very amusing how sex workers are heralded as heroes who we should support whereas their customers are unilaterally treated like subhuman filth and discouraged from using sex workers. It's an interesting bit of ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:02 AM
1

The vast majority of men do not even have the chance to "ride the pussy carousel". This is just another instance of unattractive and undesirable men being invisible in the eyes of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:19 AM
1

Don't take this the wrong way but I'm not nearly white enough for that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 04:28 AM
5

I'm sure there are plenty of men who'd like to be with that woman, they're just not high value enough to warrant a second glance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 05:30 PM
2

That's still pretty absurd compared to the average low value man which is just out of shape, short and not in a high paying job but otherwise completely normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 04:50 PM
-1

It's funny that you have to make a woman basically a caricature of a dysfunctional person in order for her to be considered low value, almost as if to prove my point
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 04:40 PM
9

Following this thread since I'm all bitter, sardonic and cold and I'd really like to know if it's even possible to be positive again
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 03:44 PM
3

There's no such thing as a low quality woman - all women are seen as valid and having worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 03:43 PM
2

Same
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 03:31 PM
1

I'm a feminine man
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 03:13 PM
0

Well I'm also black and I'd definitely say otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:36 PM
1

They're probably still given more leeway than feminine straight men or overtly feminine men of colour.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:09 PM
3

Femininity is a spectrum - all women are valid and are mostly free to define it as and how they want. Masculinity is binary - you either are a man or you're not and it's usually defined by very rigid criteria you need to meet at all times.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 12:22 PM
3

I don't think it'll ever disappear, but more illusions about socialisation being stripped away can only be a good thing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 06:14 PM
3

You have to remember the sheer number of romantic options the average woman has these days. Don't take it personally if one of them flakes on or ghosts you, she was probably fielding like 10 different men at once and you came up short.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 06:13 PM
6

People... What a bunch of bastards!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 10:15 PM
1

Well yeah, but it was sounding as if you were blaming them for getting raped or sexually abused in your OP
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 04:49 PM
5

I agree wholeheartedly. I may be a bit of a misogynist, but I don't want women to be second class citizens just because they're mean to me sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 04:47 PM
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Nah man, I don't think most women ignore significant red flag. You're awfully close to blaming them for any misfortune that they encounter romantically
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 04:46 PM
10

I'm as bitter towards women as anyone, but I think you're walking a thin line, man
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 04:43 PM
7

What are you saying? That they were asking to be sexually abused?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 04:40 PM
14

As much as they complain, women in first world countries generally have quite a bit of freedom to do what they want, say what they want, date who they want and be who they want with minimal consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 04:06 PM
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Well it's honest, at least. Strip away all the bullshit we use to comfort ourselves and we're all just breeding machines looking for the most desirable genepool to dump our gametes in.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 10:52 PM
2

No one said it was fair, it's.just how it is
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 10:07 PM
6

I guess if LVM are like 90% of the male population... Yes, according to most data and discussion around the subject, that would appear to be the consensus
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 09:49 PM
1

Nope. It's just that women have more suitors so they have higher standards and are therefore far more critical of and discerning about the quality of men. A lot of the time these deplorable, undateable, unlovable, garbage men are just average looking schlubby guys who had the gall to try and talk to a human female.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 09:36 PM
2

There are plenty of really low quality women out there. Maybe not in terms of appearances, but definitely in terms of personality. Hell, even in terms of appearances there are morbidly obese, ugly women with nothing to offer juggling five different average looking men in decent shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 09:28 PM
1

The grass is always greener. As much as women complain about men using them for sex, I'm sure most of them would eventually yearn to be used if men stopped giving them the time of day on sight. Likewise, I'm sure most undesirable men would get sick of being used and thrown away after a while
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 09:10 PM
1

I suppose the argument is any attention at all, negative or no, is better than basically being invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 09:04 PM
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The internet is more or less the only reliable method to find sex or love for most people. As much as it disadvantages most men, online dating is a massive boon for most women as it removes most of the risk, effort, time and LVM from the equation. The barriers are only steep for LVM, who are at an all time low in terms of value on the sexual marketplace and most of whom are absolutely going to die alone. HVM and women are cleaning up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 08:26 PM
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Most women have a disrespect for most men and vice versa. What tends to turn that disrespect into respect is being attractive or special (e.g. talented, rich, famous, funny, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:22 PM
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Yeah but if there were things I loved about them besides their looks I could overlook the imperfection of weight change
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 12:46 PM
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Depends on if I were only with them for their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 12:40 PM
1

Well yeah I did say it's hard for a lot of average men, but it's not the impossible feat it's played up to be and there are plenty of incels who do have silly standards
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 05:30 PM
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Anyone who identifies as redpilled, bluepilled, blackpilled or purplepilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:58 PM
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It's definitely hard for men who are average or below average - much harder than it used to be. That said, it's not the Sisyphean struggle incels make it out to be, and a lot of them could find relationships if they didn't believe they deserved (and exclusively seek out) gorgeous obedient tradwives who never challenge them intellectually, socially or emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:12 PM
1

Traditionally female sexuality has been more challenged, which has led to a renaissance of female sexual freedom mounting over the past few decades. What we are experiencing as men is just the natural consequence of women now having greater freedom to do what they want with their own sexuality, which we conflate with oppression or marginalisation since we are no longer "in the spotlight" as it were. It'll be a while before male sexuality is less sidelined, but it won't ever go back to the times …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:00 PM
2

Congratulations, this is possibly the most original thought that has ever been had
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 01:55 PM
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Yes, the word everyone wants to see in a description of what a grown man finds attractive is "childlike"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:17 AM
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You're probably unattractive. Women are always wary around unattractive men and do everything they can to ensure those men know they will never, ever be allowed to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 08:56 PM
1

Okay that's nice and all but like I said, for the purposes of this argument blah blah blah
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:24 PM
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I used to do the former quite a bit back when I was a hopeless, lovelorn beta male. Since I basically died inside and gave up on ever being in a romantic relationship, though, I've had no problem having perfectly friendly and platonic relationships with women. That said, I've found they often get curious about why I'm not making any moves on them or why I don't express any interest in women romantically/sexually. For example, I work with two straight girls I've grown close to and initially there…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:41 AM
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Looks absolutely come first. We're willing to accept this truth when it comes to men, but for some reason it's considered an affront to the very nature of womanhood if you EVER imply that they value looks over anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:54 PM
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Blue collar doesn't mean unintelligent No, of course not. But for the purposes of this argument, I'm splitting this into traditionally educated white collar men and traditionally uneducated blue collar men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:37 PM
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I only ask because I can tell from the nature of your responses that any attempt to actually debate this with you is pointless and will be met with nothing but insistence that I'm some misogynistic incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:23 PM
5

Are you a woman or a self-hating man?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:21 PM
14

Compelling
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:05 PM
10

Pretty sure it's mostly the looks and masculinity thing. You could find plenty to talk about with white collar men if you gave a shit in the first place, and uneducated women go for blue collar men as well
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:03 PM
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It's true - looks come first, always.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:23 PM
32

Most of the professional and educated women I've worked with have dated or married blue collar guys like construction workers. They don't really seem to show an interest in men on their intellectual or academic level unless they're really hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:00 PM
1

I generally agree that men are not allowed to be upset or angry because women will generally go "omg rape culture" or something and act like he's about to rage fuck them to death, but this guy did go a bit far.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 01:47 PM
9

My takeaway from this is that you think "fucking a fan" videos are real, which I know kind of ties in to your gripe about people not answering your questions properly
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 12:13 AM
1

It's got nothing to do with being the weaker sex. I'm a big black man and if someone said that shit to me if be like "haha what the actual fuck". It's just plain creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 07:03 AM
11

Playful nothing, that shit is repulsive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 02:05 PM
9

That's literally the most sickening thing I've heard in at least a month
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 01:46 PM
1

You cited a protest, I cited a protest. Neither are representative samples. Don't shift goalposts, sweetie.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 09:48 PM
1

It wasn't a complaint. You insinuated that white conservative men aren't brittle, I gave you an example of them being brittle. I mean clearly you just came to this dead thread to own the libs, but you've at least got to be semi-intelligent about it or it all falls apart. Good luck on the next one, buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 09:38 PM
1

Are you stupid or just a troll? I need to know how to react
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 09:21 PM
1

No, you just had protests because black people went to the same school as you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 09:14 PM
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Men have been losing to women and their own horniness since the dawn of time
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 10:40 PM
4

I'd say wanting to be the most oppressed is gender neutral. Men and women love pulling oppression ranks on other people. Men see female oppression as a threat to the importance of male oppression and vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 02:32 PM
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Or does harm against women not matter to you in ANY fashion? Honestly? Not really. Harm against men as a concept means nothing to most women, especially harm against men they aren't interested in. I don't see why harm against women should mean anything to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 05:32 AM
21

Why do the kids who have never even ever gone on a date with a woman like say things like, ''women are entitled to anything and to everything all the time,'' I don't know. Why do women like to assume anyone who has anything negative to say about women is just a virgin who's mad he can't bask in the glory of one?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 11:24 PM
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If the media has taught me anything, gay men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 06:47 PM
3

Well in that case I guess this is a misunderstanding
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 06:47 PM
5

Well I can accept that most men don't go, but I still feel "never took off" is a major exaggeration. It's.still very much a thriving industry
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 06:01 PM
3

You can pull the mod card all you like, but it doesn't make the idea that prostitution "never took off" any less bizarre
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:54 PM
4

That means nothing. Are you saying prostitution isn't popular? That's ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:50 PM
3

prostitutes never took off. Excuse me what?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:48 PM
2

I dun geddit...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:29 PM
1

What mean???
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:49 PM
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Women are entitled to anything and everything all the time, it's the crux of our entire civilisation
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:45 PM
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Well I don't watch VR porn but I already find it hard to connect with women in real life, so why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:33 PM
1

Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 01:26 PM
2

I chose not to fully engage with your "they don't have high expectations now" comment because I knew it'd be pointless getting sucked into a debate on the subject. My hands off "well I guess it depends" comment was an attempt to placate you but it was met by unexpected persnicketiness and to be honest I didn't know how to respond to that without being equally nitpicky and pretentious.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 12:17 AM
2

Well now you're moving goalposts
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 12:12 AM
2

Not everything. Pretty sure we all require oxygen to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 12:10 AM
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It's been pointed out to me a few times that a lot of hot dudes don't have game despite often believing they're god's gift to womankind, they're just good-looking or high status enough that women overlook their lack of charisma
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 12:10 AM
3

Well that's a case by case basis
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 12:08 AM
1

At most some average and ugly women would have to lower their standards a bit, if that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 12:01 AM
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A million thots and fuckboys would scream out in terror and then be suddenly silenced In all seriousness all the hot people would just go back to using nightclubs so they can fuck ASAP without having to talk or have personalities
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 11:45 PM
2

TL;DR
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 09:16 AM
6

To be fair you guys say that about anyone who says anything negative about women ever
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 02:13 PM
3

I'm whining? All I said is that sounds exhausting and most women aren't interesting enough to warrant it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 01:57 PM
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It's not really a question of emotional intelligence, women just are usually demanding and simultaneously boring
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 01:49 PM
2

you're assuming a lot by assuming I want to be in a relationship with a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 01:29 PM
4

I have friends and a job
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 01:28 PM
7

only extroverts are human, got it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 01:06 PM
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My social skills are fine, for the most part, I just don't want to have to dance around for someone who offers very little in return
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 12:57 PM
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I rarely talk about or think about women unless prompted
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 12:57 PM
5

Oh well I guess I suck then boohoo I won't get to spend my life constantly entertaining and providing for some princess who'll ditch me the second I fall beneath her fluctuating parameters
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 12:56 PM
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That all sounds exhausting, especially when the woman usually has all the personality of a carrot
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 10:33 AM
3

TLDR when it was posted during the purge, TLDR now
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:50 PM
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Emotional vulnerability and dependence is weakness. That makes you inferior, which means women hate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:05 PM
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Pengrant
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:01 PM
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Women hate men who they perceive as inferior. It doesn't matter what that man says or does, but they especially hate it when that man insults them by deigning to think he has a chance with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:59 PM
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Anger at being an inferior male is so 2012. Swallow the blackpill and embrace apathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:55 PM
3

Never judge yourself by what women think or do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:53 PM
2

This should be an interesting thread
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:21 PM
4

It's what comes of believing in a sociopolitical system that puts a precedent on being a traditional, masculine man while actually being a weak, cowardly and entitled one. It's like they develop this skewed perspective of the world based entirely on their unwillingness to admit that they aren't ideal male specimens.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 04:01 PM
2

Ultimately victim complexes are tied to mindset, not race. Who has more of a victim mindset than supposedly beleaguered white conservative men who believe they're being genocided because brown people have jobs or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 03:57 PM
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White men have only experienced a fraction of the abuse every other group of people on Earth has experienced for a fraction of the time and already you're falling apart
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 03:33 PM
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You can't really expect women to be reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 03:32 PM
1

I know, I was saying that you can be a misogynist without being pumped in with incels
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:53 PM
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I resent the fact that you can't just be a misogynist without being an incel
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:43 PM
3

This, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:08 PM
10

This just in - women like tall muscular hot guys
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:01 PM
0

Nobody needs any of those things either
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:17 PM
1

Man who the hell cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:44 PM
3

As with all psychological issues, there's never just one answer and anyone who says otherwise just doesn't want to think about the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:41 PM
3

You left out astrology, talking about their love life and new age spiritualism
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:39 PM
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I've met a lot of these "total package" girls and, honestly, they're not nearly as fascinating to be around as they seem to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:38 PM
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Toxic masculinity is mostly beneficial for women in a lot of ways, so it's not going anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 08:21 AM
1

They deserve it. They're disgusting, loathsome creatures who make things harder for men who respect themselves. Let them fritter away their money desperately for a facsimile of love. Let them drown in their mediocrity. Let them die with their delusions. They can rot for all I care.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 12:03 PM
1

Nothing baffling about it. Men have physical strength, agency and competitiveness Women have manipulation, emotional intelligence and peacemaking
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 12:01 PM
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If you really do live in a poor country you should know better than anyone that "fair" is just a word made up to sell products. There's no such thing as fair. Just the illusion of it. Don't even waste time lamenting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 11:55 AM
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Most men are hardwired to simp, regardless of expectations. It's repulsive but it's the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 11:47 AM
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Like all pithy aphorisms it's an oversimplification of a complex issue designed to be more witty than it is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 12:53 PM
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A lot of men want to marry, commit and provide. A lot of men want to be in a loving vanilla relationship. A lot of men don't want to waste their lives away fucking prostitutes and jerking off to porn. And most women don't want to be breadwinners. Again, you're assuming a fucking lot about how both men and women think.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 12:13 PM
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You are assuming so much
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 11:49 AM
2

Neither do most men, but I don't suppose you'll ever be willing to acknowledge that. And therein lies the impasse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 11:36 PM
1

I think women have a tendency to just view their own reciprocal and transactional relationships more virtuously than men. No one participates in a relationship where they get absolutely nothing in return for time, effort and emotional investment. Man or woman. No amount of grandstanding changes that. In your case, you receive a sense of community, acceptance and good will in return for your commitment and good will. It may not be a direct link, but it's there. To honestly imply that you never do…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 10:30 PM
1

I have no interest or stake in this particular subject
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 04:23 PM
5

If you say so
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 04:10 PM
1

Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 04:09 PM
2

Hardly, sarcasm aside. There's nothing wrong with being comfortable with yourself and not feeling a need to self-moderate for people who have already made up their minds about how they're going to approach you. Dealing with racism has already predisposed me to not caring about what random people think or feel towards me on sight.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:01 PM
1

I don't know. I couldn't care less about how my natural state of being makes women feel, personally. If you really want to know, ask women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:37 PM
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Reciprocity is simply a natural part of life. No one does something for nothing. That isn't to say simple kindness entitles a man to sex and affection, but you can't expect people to devote any amount of time or attention towards you while receiving nothing in return. That is contrary to human nature and the transactional nature of capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 11:10 AM
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From personal experience most MGTOW aren't detached from women at all - they hate women and obsess over them, which is where the problem arises.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 11:08 AM
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I won't deny that a lot of women expect men to be sympathetic towards and supportive of them while withholding the same courtesy. Personally I advocate an equal level of emotional detachment from men on an interpersonal level. Given the biological urges most men feel, however, I doubt that will ever be a widespread practice, and so men will always be more willing to exert themselves to be emotionally available towards and supportive of women more than the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 09:21 AM
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Women tend to be more passive aggressive than men as a consequence of being less aggressive-aggressive than men. A man is more likely to confront another man if he has a problem with him, whereas women are more likely to avoid that confrontation and find other methods of addressing those feelings, usually through venting to third parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:29 AM
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It's all simple perception. Men who are deprived of positive female experiences tend to develop a jaundiced idea of how women think and feel. The same tends to be true of women who are deprived of positive male experiences. Of course, most of the ideas developed under these circumstances are warped and only ever slightly rooted in truth, if that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:23 AM
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A lot of female behaviour needs to be understood in the context of women being fearful and wary of men. These things aren't done to slight us, they're simply the result of women drawing from their experiences and learning to protect themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:02 AM
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I believe the OP is probably referring to intimate emotional availability and not the more impersonal charitable spirit that doesn't really require you to be very emotionally available at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 11:57 PM
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Yes, but they intentionally close themselves off emotionally to most unattractive men in order to avoid drawing romantic or sexual interest simply because they were nice. As average men, we rarely experience female attention or affection. When we do eventually receive it, we tend to interpret it romantically or in terms of sexual attraction both due to wishful thinking and unfamiliarity. Women eventually come to understand that they can't show most men even a hint of positive attention without i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 11:56 PM
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You're right, maybe it's just because I'm not rich???
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 09:55 AM
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I mostly agree, but then I do see quite a few genuinely ugly or obese women with average dudes. I've never seen a genuinely ugly man with anyone except occasionally a very very ugly woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 09:50 AM
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Well I suppose that's the rub - it's less an issue of the fact that she's slept around a lot for most men and more an issue of what that means about her commitment to the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 04:09 PM
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That is a good distinction. You're probably right
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 01:25 PM
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I do think the rules change after a certain age when people are categorically looking to settle with someone who doesn't make them want to blow their brains out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 01:25 PM
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Women are more likely to perceive average men as unattractive, while men are more likely to perceive average women as hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 12:57 PM
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Supply and demand, mate. That's all it is. There are more desperate men willing to settle for ugly women than there are desperate women willing to settle for ugly men. Way, way more. That's why everyone only makes a big deal when it's the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 12:54 PM
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I for one have literally never cared about my girl's body count so long as she loves me and remains loyal. I'm sure plenty of other men feel the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 12:39 PM
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You'll still care though. It's how you're wired. Comparatively, women aren't wired to give two shits about men who aren't giving them something so don't expect that indifference to end any time soon
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 12:21 PM
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Women don't care about all men because they aren't obligated to do so. Men don't really care about all women either, but they have to act like they do because not caring about all women is socially unacceptable. Generally speaking no one cares as much as they like to believe they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 12:04 PM
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That is true
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 06:18 AM
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Probably. Oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 06:07 AM
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Probably
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 06:07 AM
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I'd rather not have to be reliant on women at all. My dream is to one day be completely emotionally detached from all women - to never feel for them or desire them or expect anything from them. It's a silly dream, obviously, but it's what'd make me as happy as I can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 11:01 PM
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You're right. No one's honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:58 PM
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Sometimes it's better to never know what you're missing out on than to have enough of a taste to crave it but not enough to sate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:58 PM
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Also true. But fundamentally, men are always going to crave emotional intimacy with women, and there'll always be a part of most men that jumps to "maybe she likes me" when a woman's nice to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:24 PM
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Like I said in my comment, it's perfectly understandable why women are emotionally unavailable and closed off to men who they aren't sexually or romantically interested in. Most men are starved of female attention and respond to any woman showing them a modicum of kindness or giving them a sliver of attention with head over heels infatuation. The only solution is for men to just stop expecting that level of emotional engagement from women. I think we're getting there gradually as men become less…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:17 PM
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Usually when women tell men to "uplift each other" what they mean is "I'm emotionally unavailable toward men and fuck you for expecting otherwise". Which fair enough, but at least be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:58 PM
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Bold of you to assume women have ever approached me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 11:27 PM
1

Is it any wonder? The only real way for people to meet nowadays is through fucking apps and nightclubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 01:52 PM
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God, this whole reductive, dehumanising high status low status thing is exhausting. It's no wonder so many men are just giving up on dating
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 11:48 AM
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Money is status made manifest. It's the key to everything you could ever want or need. I think most women seek out status as a matter of course, but gold digging is something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 08:25 AM
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Honestly for the most part, women don't have strict gender roles in first world countries anymore. Not that that's a bad thing, but it'd be nice if men could have the same treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 06:57 PM
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I think what you're experiencing is the vocal minority making everyone look bad by being the loudest and the most recurring. It happens all the time. I hate people, but most people are generally more reasonable than you might think based on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:29 AM
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I think a lot of women do encourage and support men who try to improve, and I think a lot of women don't want or care about male betterment and just want a scapegoat to blame for everything. In any cause or movement you'll get people who want to affect positive and meaningful change and people who just want to scream loudly from the rooftops and fling shit at the people they don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:06 AM
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Is Harley Quinn sort of a female power fantasy? Hear me out. We all know Harley Quinn has skyrocketed in popularity as of late in ways more "male-oriented" strong female characters like Wonder Woman or Captain Marvel haven't been able to. Why is that? I think I'm sort of locking onto it. Consider Harley's whole narrative - she's was an ambitious, intelligent and promising young women who fell under the sway of a manipulative and abusive lover before breaking away from that lover and forging her …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 08:01 AM
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Do women really want to be dominatrixes though? I really don't think you can call that a power fantasy, and I don't think most women have power fantasies so intrinsically linked to psychosexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 07:52 AM
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Well yeah, lack of success kind of ties into the exclusionary and streamlined nature of modern dating. All venues which would allow people of average or below average looks or introverted personalities to have a shot are being eclipsed by venues such as clubs, bars and OLD where looks and a first impression are absolutely everything and the entire system is set up to keep the average and the below average out so the fuckables can cut through the chaff and fuck each other ASAP without having to w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 10:44 PM
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Most people who think they're ugly aren't, they just have low self-esteem and warped self-images because of the overrepresentation of hot people in the media and the streamlined, exclusionary nature of modern dating dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 10:03 PM
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Why are you even bringing this opinion here is the question? Clearly you have no interest in considering or even hearing dissenting views.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 12:03 PM
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I think you need to talk to real women and stop drawing your conclusions about them from the loudest, angriest, most narcissistic examples on social media
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:58 AM
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Why are you assuming that any woman who settles is resentful? Also, how are you able to speak for most men? Personally I like my girls a little curvy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:56 AM
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Everyone settles, man. Man and woman. Very few people are with partners who they can't find any flaws or niggling complaints with
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:53 AM
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But the typical female doesn't demand those traits. I would argue that most women actually settle for much, much less than the character you've put forward as the only man they're willing to be with
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:50 AM
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Yes you never specifically wrote that, I extrapolated a hyperbolic example of what you were saying
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:48 AM
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I really don't think most women genuinely believe they deserve to be with a 6'4" 10/10 six figure salary adonis. How do you explain all the average looking schlubs in relationships with women? Sure you could say women tend to have lofty standards, but I think eventually most of them come to reckon with those standards and become more realistic about their relationships as they get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:45 AM
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Man or woman, beauty often seems to have a bit of a correlation with being demanding and superficial. It's only natural to want to settle down with someone who balances looks with personality, and if you're settling down personality will usually win out. On another note, your disclaimer seems unnecessarily pointed and mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 10:48 AM
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Women earn money because they're motivated and capable and because they can. It's not a requirement for them to be a viable romantic candidate like it is for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 04:25 PM
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Are men not seeking the same things in a woman/women? Yeah, but the difference is women can actually attain them. Even in a betabux relationship, the beta male is never going to receive real comfort and stability. He knows the moment he stops earning the drip of half-interested "warmth" will run dry.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 04:14 PM
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I think it's a matter of compromise not being worth it anymore, especially since a woman isn't necessarily expected to make any kind of compromise besides honouring you with her continual presence in the marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 04:11 PM
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The fact that women have earning power of their own is precisely why the betabux paradigm is dying out and we have a generation of men staring into a bottle over how perpetually lonely and unwanted they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 04:01 PM
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Can we just put the whole "ooga booga" sexual dynamics of it aside and put it in intellectual terms: why would anyone with even a modicum of self-respect want to be nothing more than an ATM for someone who doesn't love, respect or, sometimes, even like them? Seriously, the notion of someone being grateful to betabux is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 03:55 PM
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A lot of women are extremely critical of men sexually but then when you get them into bed they just lie there and moan. On top of that, they often suck at oral and non-penetrative sex acts too. It astounds me that so many women can just walk around thinking they're sex on legs when they basically don't even try. Kind of makes me wonder how hair-trigger and easily pleased other men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 03:47 PM
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immutable genetic traits which lead to holistic quality. It's easy to be confident, extroverted and successful when you're good looking, tall and intelligent -- all of which are inherent, genetic traits you have little say in.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 03:43 PM
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I made the case that even if betas weren't as sexually desired as Chad and got less frequent sex, they still got love, emotional support, affection, intimacy Do they really though? They often just get a hollow facsimile of those things from someone who's emotionally checked out and has basically given up on trying, which is where the issue lies in my opinion. Why settle into a lukewarm relationship with a woman who thinks she's better than you and wants you to worship her for allowing you to pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 03:41 PM
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I can't help but feel like I'd have more emotional/social support and a better chance at finding love if I were a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 09:54 PM
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In my case it's because I was an ugly, fat sperg and my single mother was just protecting me from being crushed by the reality of my pitiful existence (which was already beset on all sides by bullying, physical ailments and developing mental illnesses) before I had even hit the age of 18. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 09:53 PM
1

Why's that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 04:59 PM
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I was a nice guy once upon a time and, if the average nice guy is anything like what I used to be like, then nine times out of ten they're just shy, inexperienced and scared of rejection. Cowardly, sure, but not malicious or manipulative. Usually nice guys genuinely like the girls they orbit as people and would rather be in their company platonically than take a chance and risk losing even that. And even when the guy wants something more, he's usually happy to provide emotional and social suppor…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 10:31 PM
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Wanting something to be so but not being willing to tolerate it as an individual is pretty hypocritical. How can you expect to incite sweeping social change and encourage others to do the right thing if you're not particularly willing to stomach the right thing yourself? It's akin to openly promoting communism while happily enjoying the luxuries of capitalism in your spare time because actually living like a communist is "gross" ​
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 10:22 PM
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Seems pretty hypocritical of you. If you're unable to support your words with actions how about you just refrain from verbally espousing your virtues in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 09:53 PM
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I was just confused for a moment. I thought you were trying to paint this kind of relationship as negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 09:52 PM
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What? Isn't this how friendship works? Did you just describe how a basic friendship works in a way that makes the man sound like a monster rapist?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 09:44 PM
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Paying lip service to something because it's convenient for you to do so doesn't mean you believe it, especially if you can't back it up with actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 09:41 PM
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People have urges and sometimes their partners aren't always willing or able to fulfill them. Unless you're either constantly open to sex or otherwise open to getting your husband off with either your hand or by providing pornographic images of yourself to his exact specifications, you're going to have to accept reality and suck it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 08:39 PM
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I think the Redpill is too coloured by bitterness and misogyny to approach the very real privileges women enjoy in society and the hardships of being a modern man without making it an outright attack on anyone with a vagina. It's a breeding ground for bigots who want to reinforce their hatred with some kind of movement. I think the Bluepill is largely made up of people who are either willfully ignorant or who have lived fairly easy lives and therefore assume that that ease is the baseline and an…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 08:17 PM
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I think it's easier for people to vilify all nice guys as manipulative quasi-rapists than it is for them to admit that some guys are just kind of socially inept, romantically/sexually inexperienced and unattractive and you don't want to have sex with them because you believe you can do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 08:13 PM
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Honestly for most men I'd say it's better to avoid marriage altogether, especially in this day and age.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 08:08 PM
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I would argue that most women gain from selectively pushing gender norms. I've often found that the same women who claim that it's okay for men to be sensitive and open with their feelings are the very first to completely disengage from any man who shows any form of weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 08:06 PM
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Does anyone who's actually had sex think this way?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 07:03 PM
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