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Anyone who is denying the disparity of online dating must not know a lot of women IRL who use apps. It's shocking how easy it is for mid women to have harems of guys out of their league. Meanwhile the guys out of their league have harems of mid girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:20 AM
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Nope somewhere between 20-50 years ago was better. The rise of online negativity and obesity has made things worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:15 AM
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He's appealing to populist fantasy, even though he is a rich, famous, tall and muscular guy who has no issues with women he wants to act like he can relate to the struggles of an average joe.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 09:00 PM
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It would make sense for a woman to be supportive of their right to vote or access to contraception, which is also something that feminists support. But saying that you are a feminist means that you you identify with the same people that brought you #freethenipple #metoo #believeallwomen #killallmen. A significant proportion of vocal feminists are literally man hating misandrists that put down and mistreat men and do much more harm than good. A woman calling herself a feminist means that she spen…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:58 PM
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Im not British but Tate was smart when he came up with the concept of “escaping the matrix” This is a basic red pill concept, in fact the whole red pill/blue pill name comes from the matrix. He didn't come up with it and he didn't come up with the majority of the things he says. He's like a human red pill handbook with a lot of the low quality comments getting scribbled in.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:36 PM
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Many blue pillers are also delusional, like the people who many not be actually successful but they still support the system. I know guys who are virgins into their late 20s who are bluepilled. They are just like the guys who will never be wealthy but think that elon musk is a relatable genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 07:03 PM
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Most women that have high body counts are girls that are not very desirable for much outside of sex and have mental/self esteem issues. Most women who have lots of casual sex are rarely normal, that's just the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:58 PM
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It's just like the economy, should have been born 10 to 20 years earlier
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:11 PM
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Women in this sub pretend like most women aren't shallow like this. There's a reason why women who call themselves feminists or talk about height and other superficial preferences are red flags. Aspects of feminism appeal to all women, but a woman who would tell a guy she is a feminist shows a lack of basic social skills because feminists have been and always will be a controversial and unpopular fringe group of weirdos and saying that you are one of them means you believe in a whole bunch of cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:09 PM
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Whether men are RP aware or not I think most men who do well never really needed it in the first place and most men who struggle will continue to struggle. Even TRP communities acknowledge that most guys can never become an HVM, most guys will never truly internalize RP and actually improve dramatically. A lot of guys might try to deny this in the RP community, but most guys will never be alpha or Chads and based on what I've seen irl it just seems these types of guys are angrier and more frustr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:10 AM
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Dating apps are probably the worst way to meet girls. Clubs are probably the second worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:25 PM
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He said he's been blue pilled his whole life but is starting to see red now
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:50 PM
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None of the black pill women seem to actually be black pill
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:34 PM
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The fact that all women have the option to deliver men like pizza just shows the abundance of options they have. Doesnt matter how much of a loser a woman is, she has more options than she can handle.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:10 AM
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Self reported surveys are bs, my lived experience shows unless you're talking about Chads women cheat a lot more since they have more opportunity to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:45 PM
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A lot of women have no incentive to self improve because no matter how obese, mentally ill, broke, mean or other bad traits they have they have a ton of options due to dating apps and social media. They can literally order men like pizza except they have a free trial for unlimited delivery for life. Its probably never gonna happen, but if all of a sudden all men on the planet boycotted low quality women (or at least in the west) men would have a better experience with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:15 PM
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I doubt men cheat more
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 05:34 PM
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That's the last number I heard, is that incorrect?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 05:29 PM
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You really think this explains why 90% of the time women file for divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:42 PM
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You really think this explains why 90% of the time women file for divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:41 PM
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Wife falls out of love with husband, wife files. This is the likeliest explanation for 90% of the time women file for divorce Wife cheats on her husband, husband files. A lot of women will cheat and leave and still be the one who files since 90% of the time women file for divorce Husband abandons wife, wife files You really think that this is going to be a huge proportion of divorce filings since This is the likeliest explanation since 90% of the time women file for divorce? Wife beats husband h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:41 PM
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Redpillers used to call blackpillers and mgtows guys who just gave up. I think blackpill wasn't even a term until more recently because they would be shunned for not wanting to try and put in work at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:16 PM
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They were blindsided because their wife was internalizing her emotions and refusing to communicate and instead of working on the relarionship built resentment and disgust towards their partners. By the time they bring it up to their partner they already made up their mind a long time ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:13 PM
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That's really stupid logic that's being parroted in this sub constantly. "just because almost 100% of divorces are initiated by women doesn't mean women divorce men more!!!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:12 PM
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Judging by other comments I'm not the only one who thinks you talk like an older lady
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:47 PM
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I am your generation
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:10 PM
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If you talked less like the average woman on this sub that are married and going through menopause and more like someone your own age they might not think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:17 PM
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No they are older and married and bitter
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:16 PM
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The men are young and single, the women are older and married
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:57 PM
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Young college guys can have harems of older women who satisfy them while they study for an adult job or work on their own business and then once they are in their late 20s or early 30s they can find a younger girl to start a family with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:33 PM
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Most women are not ok with dating men significantly younger than them, especially most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:50 AM
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They will be dominated by the top men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:25 PM
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Feel whatever way you want, it probably won't stop the men on the island.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:03 PM
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Most of redpill theories align with conservatism and a lot of the values from the abrahamic religions align with that. TRP doesn't explicitly align to religion however and I agree that the overall stance on dating (dont get married, theres no point) isn't compatible with those religions since they highly value the institution of marriage. However there is a "but if you do decide to get married" part of TRP where they discuss what the best way to handle an LTR/marriage should be if you are alread…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:02 PM
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If there is anarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 08:50 PM
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It's worse when you consider that women tend to be slightly older than men due to longer life spans so the discrepancy between men and women within a realistic dating age (remove all people above 50 or 40 depending if you can handle how bad the real ratios are for young men since younger men have worse ratios than at older ages when more men have died off)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:31 PM
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Women frequently date, marry and hook up with older men. For every 20 year old girl hooking up with a guy just one year older or more, that is a 20 year old guy whose dating pool shrinks because women rarely want to do anything with younger guys. A 20 year old girls dating pool can be anywhere from 20 to 39 but a 20 year old guys would be 18-20, potentially 18-22 if you assume some older women are ok with a small age gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:28 PM
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Why do you keep copy and pasting this shit
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:20 PM
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Who says they get a choice on an island with no rules?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:18 PM
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Top 5 men rotate the top 40 women. Next top 15 men rotate the next top 40 women. The bottom 80 men would be fighting for the bottom 20 women who will rotate through the men until all the women on the island hit the wall, so some of the bottom 80 men will get to land some of the upper 20 men's sloppy seconds. The bottom 20 to 40 of men will either die virgins or have long dry spells as the post wall island women who refuse to settle either continue to date and extract resources between men of a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:17 PM
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There's a lot of overlap between liberal with bluepill and conservative with redpill so I will use them interchangeably. There is a culture of distrust and weariness of strangers pushed by libs. The bp response you always see about dating advice for men is to go on dating apps, go to bars, or something very general and vague. They won't tell you to work on yourself to get more interest from the opposite sex and they puah this idea that there are a million situations and places where it's not app…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:05 PM
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LA and Miami are more looks focused and definitely full of red pilled dudes. Places like the PNW and the Midwest are much less looks focused and blue pilled. I don't see why you think it's hard to believe that there aren't tons of blue pilled men and women out there who believe this because there are tons of ugly, fat, and poorly groomed people dating each other depending where you live.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:13 PM
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Some guys might be satisfied but I think a significant group if not the majority of men have a lot of dating struggles. That doesn't mean they never get girls but the quantity and quality of the relationships they have are lacking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:57 PM
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He cold approached you, that's not exactly blue pill
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:52 AM
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No, blue pillers do believe that looks aren't as important as they are to most people and a lot of blue pillers are actually ugly out of shape people who date other ugly out of shape people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:22 AM
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Red pill is a reaction to the part of left wing and feminist ideology that seeks to destroy traditional gender roles/dynamics. Blue pill ideology tells us men and women are the same, gender is a construct etc but in real life most women especially liberal ones still follow traditional dating standards and men in real life are confused. They see women say one thing and do the opposite and came together to take notes and the red pill was born.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:18 AM
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What a lame reductionist take. A lot of guys in high school and college and even older are into RP stuff because that's when they start trying to get girls and start noticing a difference in what they were led to believe about dating and how it is in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:13 AM
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TRP would say most people have some amount of "red" in them. Blue pill is usually reserved for the type of people like destiny who are the furthest example away from red pill possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:10 AM
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Blue pill refers to most women and non masculine men who do not follow TRP ideas of dating norms and strategies. The TRP view implies most straight men naturally lean towards their views and they say women unwittingly act in accordance to TRP theories. They also talk about BP men as being men who are "delusional about female nature" and do not believe that money, looks, "game", and status are very important towards dating success for men as much as being a good person. Look at the blue pill guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:09 AM
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Not everyone is in a niche hyperliberal queer community that only runs in certain areas of large cities and not everyone is attracted to those types of people. For the vast majority of people who are less promiscuous or more monogamous, straight, and moderately or leaning conservative politically, it is a much different experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 08:50 AM
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It's crazy when women here act as if having basic hygiene and life skills will make you a girl magnet but a lot of guys who lack those things get plenty of girls and all of the girls on PPD and irl will have multiple exes who lacked these things. I know a guy who got fat because he would only ever eat out and would buy new clothes instead of doing laundry. He would go home so that his mom would cook and do his laundry for him. He's also rich 6'3 and white. Most guys who do well with women seem t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:27 PM
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Ive seen tons of women like this but never men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 01:20 PM
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The worst women on this sub are almost always engaged/married. The ones who are not tend to be a lot nicer and less hostile somehow. It's almost like a huge contingent of women who are looking to get married are parasites needing an emotional/financial support to leech off of, and the women who aren't like that just don't care as much about being marriage (because they actually don't need a man).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 01:19 PM
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Its not bad advice, its useless advice
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 01:07 PM
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Women in this sub say stuff like this but irl most women are the opposite. They would rather date a guy outside their (large) friend group they barely know but is far more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 12:58 PM
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You ever seen those girls who are just one of the guys? I would bet they're more likely than average to be autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 12:54 PM
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Men are usually diagnosed more than women because the most obvious sign of autism is the struggling to fit in with peers. This has to be noticed at a young age, and by far autistic men struggle more socially. Not just dating, but making friends in general. I don't think the ability to mask better explains it the gap by itself, men are penalized more greatly for social ineptitude. Since a lot of people are commenting on the dating aspect, the fact that it's so much easier for an autistic woman to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 11:50 AM
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Yeah I should have said socially stunted
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:02 AM
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So many girls carry pepper spray and crocodile tears
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 05:47 PM
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I've met too many socially stunted dudes for it to only be 1-2%. Women are more easily forgiven for social ineptitude/anxiety and they aren't checked as often.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:59 PM
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In the early 2000s it was considered a joke to be a feminist and now in mainstream media it is assumed to be default. Life would be better if we can return to those days when feminists were recognized as the lunatics that they are
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:23 PM
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The amount of 1% men with horrible dating lives I've seen irl is funny. It's always some 6'3+ broke Chad working minimum wage jobs that have harems. "you're telling me the guy that makes life changing money but spends most of his waking hours hanging around men all day isn't getting tons of women?" The idea of doctors getting all the girls is a long gone myth, most doctors are not banging girls left and right and definitely not the hot nurses. The nurses would more likely bang the (jacked) male …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:16 AM
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When I wear $400 designer brands, it's always guys that compliment my clothes. But when I've gotten complimented by women, I was wearing $10-$20 shirts/jackets.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:11 AM
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It's funny how the idea that looks are extremely important is a controversial one these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:10 AM
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You live in Chad central, you should get out of there
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:05 AM
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There’s a lot to unpack there but statistics don’t support your argument that most women don’t care about education or career. Women are now more college educated than men are. There's a few things the statistics say from the US census data- Based on bachelor's degree or higher - In BIPOC communities, women are more college educated than men. For White communities, educational attainment is about equal, and in Asian communities educational attainment is higher for men than women. At all educatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 08:33 AM
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you guys specifically focus on the trashiest examples you can find. My point is many people who value education/career don’t behave that way. You don’t have to be rich. Most women ARE trashy. Most women DGAF about education/career. Most women are dumb, uninteresting, mentally ill, irrational, toxic, promiscuous, lack morals and do not think about the future beyond what they're going to eat for dinner. Most men are not any better either, but for men who DO care about education and career, their f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:28 PM
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Ugly couples are usually attractive people that got old and fat. They were usually attractive when they got together.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:09 PM
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So then you're privileged and out of touch with how most women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:18 AM
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A lot of men could say the same about women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:34 PM
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In some ways being able to manage a huge part of your social life especially your dating life through text can make it easier than having to become a good conversationalist. But the bar is low for women. It is hard to find women that are interested in taking care of themselves and others and most are highly addicted to self satisfaction and hedonism. Partying, alcohol, eating garbage food, not taking care of themselves, binge watching Netflix, scrolling through social media constantly. It is har…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 09:20 PM
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Tl;Dr if looks status height and money aren't the most important things to women than what is? I don't fully agree with the rp/bp/mgtow perspectives because that would be like taking every opinion from those spaces as factual and leave no room for critical thought. But bluepillers never give good alternatives or counterarguments. They always say that "TRP is wrong about this" but then never says what the right thing or solution is. My life experience shows that height, attractiveness, and status…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 09:07 PM
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Based on aging genes in my family I would probably look young even in my mid to late 30s and if so I'll probably still get interest from women 18 to early 20s. The problem is that any girl under 23 looks too young now so who knows how it will be then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 08:37 PM
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I am saying that people who age shame just don't like the reality that tons of young and attractive women date and sleep with men 5-15 years older and that it's more common than they like to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 06:08 PM
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It seems like the regular male posters here are more level than the ones who post less regularly and are mostly lurkers, but it seems like the regular female posters here are crazier than the ones who post less less regularly and are mostly lurkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:35 PM
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Those aren't the only criteria but they are by far the most important. Money is probably the least of those criteria and is enhanced with status.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:32 PM
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This is probably the worst place for dating advice, but the way people with extreme views act irl isn't always the same as what they say here. Straight people who complain about the opposite gender still want to date the opposite gender, but they are mostly frustrated that there are some obstacles that make it harder to have a satisfying dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:06 PM
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What ive learned in this sub: most peoples opinions are based on the reality they want to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:04 PM
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When I was in school they always talked about the declining middle class, stagnating wages, higher cost of education and housing, and all these issues that also were common in the media but I didn't really understand it until I started working myself so it was lost on me. Now it seems like those talking points are all considered radical communist propaganda
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:59 PM
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You're one of the few old guys in here who get it. Unlike the delusional ones who say "even though I've been out of the dating game for 20+ years I know I would be killing it if I were single again, you kids have it so easy"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:56 PM
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If you want to laugh at people at a low point the NoFap sub is there. The amount of dudes that can't stop beating their dicks 3-5 times a day until their skin peels and they get ED in their teens and early 20s is sad
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:54 PM
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I've learned that women have extremely high expectations from men but that was from real life experience and not this sub. The women on this sub are not normal. What the women on this sub have that isn't abnormal is complete ignorance towards men's feelings and experiences and an unwillingness to learn. They often go as far as to bully them and deny their reality. Tl;Dr if there is anything that can be learned about women based on this sub is that women live in a completely different reality and…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:46 PM
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If you had the average man's libido and testosterone it would make more sense. It's an extremely powerful biological urge reinforced by society. Long before the pill stuff and even from a young age it's clear that in society there is a hierarchy for men based on the women they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:39 PM
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This seems to be inevitable of any sub as it grows. The quality declines
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:17 PM
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The first one is the easiest, the second one can be worked on but isn't easy, and the third one is probably the hardest because there's no straightforward path
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:13 PM
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That's fat as fuck. Bloated round face, pot belly, jiggly butt and child bearing hips with noodle arms physique.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 10:38 AM
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Suburbs are the reason insells exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 10:36 AM
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The smv difference changes more for women than men. It's like he said, the hottest women in the Midwest are average in a big city, they have more competition. Even though there might be more Chads, there are way more hot women to go around and they are not as special as if they were the hottest girl around for miles.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 10:35 AM
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Is this procedure a thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:13 PM
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Is this procedure a thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:08 PM
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It's reality ive seen it. Not across the world, across a few borders. It's not like these men are looking for a wife, they're probably traveling and looking for hookups. Rich and famous men have always had harems, and now Becky is part of them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:16 PM
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I don't know why some people here have this weirdly optimistic prediction, the trends point to things continuing to get worse than they are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:05 PM
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Dude I've seen extremely average girls get arheleted/celebrities from other countries slide into their dms
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:58 PM
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You need to give the TRP Field Report ™
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:57 PM
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I was also in a very conservative religious community, that's considered conservative by other religiously conservative communities Jehovah's witness? In those experiences, the beta guys in their communities face the same outcomes as beta guys in the larger community. The same applies for beta guys outside of those communities, trying to date within those stricter communities. The outcomes are going to be harder when you're the outsider. Part of why those communities are more accepting towards b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 05:36 PM
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What do you think trust fund babies are spending their money on?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:24 AM
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Shes more likely to make it out of the projects than 6'3 225 lbs 11% bf Tyrone who is always one career ending injury away from making it into the NFL
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:23 AM
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Certain types of people might be more likely to use dating apps but its not self reported. Its harder to make a meaningful study based on meeting in person because collecting that data is much more time consuming and prone to error. At least by seeing who women actually swipe more on than who they claim they would swipe on we can know an objective fact, versus relying on what they say. Some woman on this sub was trying to argue against guys who said that an objectively obese guy would struggle t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:20 AM
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If I could somehow get access to official data from dating apps and back up my claims you would still find a reason to deny it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 05:35 AM
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You said you're not attracted to him, you're just virtue signalling. How many fat dudes have you slept with anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 05:33 AM
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There is actually such a movement, it's called modern dating. Im surprised there hasnt been a study already, not that they're reliable, but I'm sure a much greater percentage of men who struggle to date are at or below average height than above.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 05:08 AM
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5'4 is bottom 1% height in men and 5'11 is half a foot taller than the average woman, 3-4 inches taller than the 90th percentile of women, and is actually taller than about 75% of men. And this is why we can't take women seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:10 PM
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He's fat enough to have health problems
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:56 PM
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White westerners are so desperate to find a replacement for the lack of culture they grew up with that they become very extreme when they find some form of spirituality to cling to. Many people who were "born" into the religion and even still identify as a Muslim will suck, fuck, drink, smoke and eat pork, but these converts are interested in joining because they are drawn in by the extreme stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:17 PM
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It sounds like to me you need to suck, fuck, drink, smoke, eat pork and move on from your childhood trauma. It's survived this long and I don't see any reason it won't continue to survive much longer as the #1 fastest growing religion in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:15 PM
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This is what you don't get. People who are born and raised in societies with such different social and cultural norms behave very differently. Women might still have hypergamous instincts in a more restrictive/religious society, but they will be suppressed and they will have much more realistic standards and are actually required to uphold some standards themselves. They are much more likely to actually be virgins at marriage and not have ever slept around, willing to compromise and not leave th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:56 PM
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A lot of redpillers might be shocked to learn that sayings like "her money is her money and his money is also her money" didn't come from feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:46 PM
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It's not just about trying to get laid, but these white converts tend to be really extreme. It's so weird seeing all the manospherians who worship the ideals of muslims being strict and disciplined or something (like Andrew Tate saying Muslims actually practice their religion unlike christians) but really they are just people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:44 PM
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My sister who is a doctor married a man she loved so much when she met him through Islamic dating that they waived the bride price. This dude was a 5 foot 7 lower level white convert corporate who made half her salary mind you. Is this why you are obsessed with white converts?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:29 PM
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moreso if you're white man Where do you keep getting this idea? A girl who is not really religious might tend to want a white American partner, but most of the girls are more than happy to go with their own. Especially when you consider there is no shortage of tall Arab chads and some even look white.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:19 PM
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I don't how some of these dudes function after years or more of no action or having someone to love. Most will be married in their 20s and some might have a low sex drive. A lot of religious dudes are actually pretty alpha, but the difference I've seen is that beta males are more accepted in religious circles if they fulfill the provider role and other duties. Versus for non religious circles a lot of dudes are actually really beta but not as accepted, and what's considered alpha and admirable i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:17 PM
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I see these ginger neckbeard converts snagging good looking middle eastern muslim women when I used to be a muslim who went to mosque in my youth. Ive seen Asian converts attend mosques regularly be suggested a marriage of convenience to muslim girls within the same Islamic community. I've never seen such a thing . I agree that most of the time religion is the only thing that works against the kind of immoral dating culture we have today, and most of the time when you see a not that great lookin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:04 PM
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Newsflash: Most "religious" people do
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:45 PM
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Maybe the women at sephora think you're gay too
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:05 AM
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He looks like a Dyke, and without his shirt he looks like an albino beached whale
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:04 AM
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Because the bar is low for women. They live unhealthy lifestyles that take a toll on their appearance and use makeup to hide it. A lot of men especially these days live lifestyles where they workout, avoid drugs and alcohol, get good sleep, drink water and eat healthy but it seems that level of real self care in women is a lot less common if a man didn't teach them to be disciplined.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:03 AM
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Not at all, lots of girls underrate men's fitness level because of all the huge ripped dudes on gear on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 07:48 AM
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It is if he's 6'4"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 07:47 AM
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WOC have it significantly easier than MOC.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:55 PM
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This sounds like some kind of small business in the South or a 3rd world country
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:59 PM
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Men can never date up. What's interesting in the west is that women have a much higher ability to date up due to a relatively low supply of viable women. Meaning that a lot of women who would be considered undesirable in many parts of the world (poor, unattractive, unfeminine, and it is politically incorrect but darker skinned women are considered less desirable) can find a partner much more easily in the west and even date up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:57 PM
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This isn't true at all. In middle class families, both genders have much more strict expectations on them than in the west but women still receive a lot of coddling from their parents especially their dads. At least men receive some benefits too, like receiving respect for being providers. But in poorer families/areas where women might be treated poorly life for men is extremely harsh. The life of the average man is working hard physical jobs 12+ hours for pennies an hour as little kids for the …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:53 PM
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He is saying that most discrimination he will face is based on mostly race and not so much his gender, but for women they would face discrimination from their race and their gender
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:11 PM
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Did you just say nobody benefitted from slavery in the long run in the US? What the mother fuck? The entire history of the US is based on the oppression and exploitation of black, white, native/Latin, and Asian people alike. God fucking damn the women of PPD are rewriting history now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:07 PM
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The average male lives a sad, pathetic life. A guy already debunked your points, but younger generations have smaller social circles than ever, do less drugs/alcohol (less socialization opportunities), and he also made some other points. Most men do NOT have a big circle of buddies who have the means, money, and reliability to go on vacations with, party with, who have a big circle with single women to introduce to them, etc. Only a small proportion of guys in my circle have solid careers and ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:53 PM
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You're describing the life of a significantly above average male tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 04:28 PM
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The suburban sprawl of America is the sole contributor to a lot of problems, especially socially
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 04:23 PM
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Redpill is just the male counterpart to feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:26 PM
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Most women make awful partners and are chad obsessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:52 PM
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The vast vast vast majority of teachers especially in soft sciences that are more subjective are women. It was very easy to see how much they favored female students especially ones who looked like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:49 PM
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It's weird how if someone who is in their early 20s wants to join the military and die for their country, drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes, get high, take out hundreds of thousands of dollars of loans for an education without any possibility that they can ever afford to pay it back, and do a whole bunch of other irresponsible and harmful things that are legal not only would nobody care, but most people would support their decision. But if someone in their early 20s is making the choice of who the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 09:56 AM
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Dating = sex unless you are dating for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:02 AM
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Same thing at that age
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:50 AM
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Basically mean girls are sluts and sluts are mean girls, at least at a young age.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:23 AM
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This is a load of crap. At 5'6 you're smaller than 90% of men. At 6'2 you're bigger than 95% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:16 AM
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That's exactly OPs point. The guy looks like a dog but is tall and white.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:37 PM
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Barry keoghan made that movie what it was
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:34 PM
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You just said they're unattractive, how are they hot?
/r/ExRedPill29/01/24 05:29 PM
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This would also kill the motivation for any men to contribute to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:07 AM
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The bay area is the economic capital of the country. It's not practical to move to cities with far less opportunity (especially Minneapolis, what a shit hole) but are basically just as expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 11:57 PM
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Westerners are aging and need immigrants to do the hard work while they enjoy the fruits of imperialism. It's not an accident.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 11:55 PM
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Westerners are aging and dying because they don't want to have big families. Young able bodied men are imported to keep society running. There's no reason to import females because men who are sexually satieted are less incentivized to work hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 11:49 PM
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There's pretty much nowhere in the world has a surplus of young women. Any country with a higher ratio of females are including 50+ age groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 11:46 PM
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Western nations are aging and require able bodied younger men to keep society running.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 11:45 PM
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Hamza has some wholesome content, but he also has some really weird and unhinged moments. Like when he was talking about how he got an erection simply due to the height difference between him and Thai women being inherently attractive.
/r/ExRedPill26/01/24 08:42 PM
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I think the popularity of the red pill would make this obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 12:39 PM
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More like 1%, probably even less
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 06:31 AM
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I've been talking with a couple LARPers in this sub claiming to be really rich or that they know something about making it rich. Capitalism and dating are very similar, IRL I noticed guys exaggerate their monetary status just like their bodycount.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 10:30 PM
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I would expect that guy to be like the wizards on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:15 AM
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These older women are not understanding at all, they are cyberbullies
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 02:59 AM
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That's the reality of it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 02:58 AM
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I've probably spent too much time on this sub then, but I also spend too much time on the toilet
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 10:22 PM
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So should I type lies instead to spare your feelings? Reddit is very male dominated, and most of the types of women who do come onto reddit are not normal. A huge percent ARE sex workers, many are trying to promote their onlyFans, and there is TONS of porn on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 09:46 PM
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You are one of the most dishonest people on this sub lol. Most of the women on this sub are really dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 09:44 PM
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I'm not the same person who called you a hypocrite, I was agreeing with you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 09:39 PM
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It's bitter, antisocial, angry men arguing with bitter, antisocial, angry women. It just makes them more bitter and angry. This same phenomenon applies to politics on social media too. Most of the men are young virgins and the women are older and married. Go figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 09:29 PM
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Isn't it weird to you that this sub is mostly older married women who are scolding men young enough to be their kids for being virgins and struggling to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 09:29 PM
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Most of the women on reddit seem to be promoting an OnlyFans, and many of the women on this sub are either 1) literal karens (older white women, based on a demographics surey this sub is disproportionately young male virgins being condescended to by women old enough to be their moms) 2) extremely unattractive and fat (based on conversations) 3) literal sex workers (based on conversations 4) severely mentally ill (based on convos, I ran into this girls who said she had BPD and her profile would a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 09:28 PM
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Hot losers get laid the most. Guys who are successful don't have the time and energy to date around as much as losers and they also wouldn't have the looks to pull it off as well either so that's why they became successful in the first place, haven't you seen the "what no pussy does to a n1gg4" memes? This is what I've observed many times. The guys who were tall and desirable to girls early on had the least motivation for "self improvement." Most guys who are "successful" are workaholics with de…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 09:21 PM
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You either have dudes who go for the most hideous, fat women and have no shame or standards, or you have the Chads. The guys I know with the highest body counts basically all look the same, 6'2+, lean, handsome, full head of hair, white or white passing as a bonus, and probably party a lot. They don't even need to be the most socially adept guy because this is virtually ALL girls' ideal. Pretty much all the girls girls with a high bodycount I know are extremely mentally unstable and awful partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 09:13 PM
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Dating norms now days are weird, people think them seeing other people during the dating phase isn't disrespectful but it is Most people are self absorbed and narcissistic (which cheaters tend to be). They feel like they should have "power" in their relationships by keeping options open at all times.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 08:57 PM
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most women are trying to date someone while fucking someone on the side. I’d say that’s even rarer than what I do. Nah most women have a category of guys they prefer fucking and they just use, they aren't that ethical that they don't take advantage of that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 08:54 PM
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I'm surprised anyone who isn't really religious or above the age of 17 waited that long
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 08:52 PM
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They were 4-6 inches taller than you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 06:04 AM
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Maybe it's because you're short
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:28 AM
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Dated d-cup and up before, this is definitely not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:24 AM
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No shit, a hijab stands out in the west
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:20 AM
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Says the woman who can't do math
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 11:16 PM
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Doesn't matter how great of a guy he is if a woman isn't physically attracted, she's not gonna fuck him just because he's a great guy. In fact women fuck unlikeable guys all the time because they're physically attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 07:52 PM
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Yes it is, the above poster is spreading just world fallacy nonsense as usual
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 07:14 PM
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My timing for Real Estate wasn't ideal, nor was it a reflection of anything from 2008. The buisness is simple. Buy a list with filters that indicates a need to sale (e.g. Recently divorced, tax liens, fire damage... ect), The timing is exactly why you did so well. Many people in 2008 lost their jobs and were forced to sell their houses that lost a huge amount of their value and owed more than it was worth. I know lots of people who were working in real estate during that time and they made out l…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 12:35 PM
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I debunked that study you are quoting. By that definition, a man can earn 50% more than his wife and that's considered "equal". $70k/$47k, $100k/$67k, $150k/$100k. In those scenarios but especially the closer to average they are, the woman benefits more than the man does from the additional income, and arguably there would be far more couplings on the "egalitarian" side where men are earning more than the women because so much anecdotal and verifiable evidence points to women prioritizing financ…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 08:49 AM
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I agree. I know a lot of guys with tight knit circles, some small some a bit larger, and they might not go out of their way to socialize with everybody but they are picky about who they want to be around and do not easily add new people to their crew. It might be a bubble, but these guys seem to be the most comfortable with themselves and not clingy because they always have someone they know they can text or call out or hangout with at the drop of a dime. If they are a part of a very "popular" s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 07:39 AM
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They might not be going after ultra rich people, but the vast majority of women are married to a man that outearns them or have a higher earning potential in general. Financial stability is clearly a huge incentive for women to marry and has been cited as one of the main reasons for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:54 AM
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If you're talking about a guy who is making $100k+ by the definition of 80/20 you're right. But in the vast majority of marriages men do earn more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:52 AM
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I rarely see men being the ones to make fun of other men who struggle to date or rarely get dates, have been single or sexless for years if not a lifetime. Its usually women who shame men for not being successful with women, which shows how much respect they have for most men. I've heard that analogy countless times around these spaces and its wrong. Let's assume there's validity to it - water can be separated from salt by boiling it and collected through condensation. Then you can save the salt…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 01:17 AM
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You misrepresented your own source. In 6% of marriages, women are sole earners, 10% are breadwinners (make over 60% of household income), 29% are egalitarian (no partner earns more than 60% of household income), and I would assume that in most egalitarian marriages the man still is the higher earner. If a man makes $70k and his wife makes $47k they would be in this category. 31% of marriages men are the breadwinners (60%+ of household income) and a whopping 23% of marriages men are the sole earn…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 01:03 AM
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Men struggling with dating = starving and being locked outside of walmart. Women struggling with dating = choosing to starve inside a walmart. Women can easily get sex AND relationships of better quality AND quantity than men can, dating is just easier for women and youre either stupid, oblivious, evil or all of the above to deny that. Women can have legitimate struggles but they are in a completely different reality than most men. If you don't think so it's because most men are invisible to you…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 12:25 AM
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I know very social guys that get no women. As in mid to late 20s virgins. It's funny how a 5'6 or shorter man is about as uncommon as a 6'3 or taller man but so many girls have 6'3 boyfriends and not 5'6 ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:23 PM
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Its easier to have a large circle as a girl. Even a lot of highly anxious, mentally ill and introverted girls have decent sized circles and in the worst case scenario they can still get a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:14 PM
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That was hilarious. It's the thought that counts right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 03:13 AM
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Isn't that where the whole "where have all the good men gone" and "all men are trash" narratives come from? The really attractive guys that figure that they can get frequent casual sex from a variety of women without putting effort so they don't? Meanwhile some 5'3 asian nerd with a lisp is graduating with top honors in a really difficult subject and landing 6 figure jobs out of college/grad school/med school and getting 0 girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 11:08 PM
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Ive seen plenty of Chads stoop very low to get their dicks wet. Girls exaggerate how hard it is to get a guy to commit, those are just the ones that want to keep hopping from bf to bf or they refuse to lower their physical standards (the preference many women have for tall men which seems to be 6'2 or above proves the 80/20 rule, in this case its the top 1%)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:30 PM
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But women raise standards for casual. Its not hard for a man to get in a relationship because girls are willing to drop their physical requirements for a relationship. A guy who can't get casual sex could still get a relationship with a decent enough looking girl. A guy who can get casual could get a relationship if he wanted, he just has to be willing to be tied down in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:19 PM
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Tons of people buy stuff from girl scouts
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:16 PM
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But if he wanted to he would more easily be able to get in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:53 PM
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The phrase "you told on yourself" is one of the dumbest memes that PPD women are obsessed with. More stupid shaming language. I've said this elsewhere, but its clear that women like you just want to maintain power over men in dating by artificially limiting their opportunities to approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:52 PM
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Based on conversations I've had with women I've been with who gave signals, it seems like a lot of the signals they throw out are not conscious, so if a girl is giving them to you, they are very likely to be enthusiastic about you approaching and a girl that is giving very standoffish vibes is more than likely going to be very unpleasant. Sometimes girls won't give any signals and seem very neutral until you approach them and actually talk to them however.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:32 PM
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I wouldn't want to waste my time on a pompous and snobby woman who thinks they are too important to have a short, casual conversation. Good thing they are usually easy to tell because their body language is as unpleasant as their attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 12:37 PM
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I feel for you that sucks but honestly I only have a finite amount of time to myself in my day and I don’t want to socialize ya know. Bar/club/party is different but if we’re talking like in the grocery store or on a train my mind is just not in “let’s flirt” mode Bar/club/party sucks for men. Women are more defensive and less approachable, many are looking to reject men or already have boyfriends, and there are tons of tall, good looking and fit dudes for them to choose from. Dating apps are ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 11:57 AM
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Even the mere act of approaching a woman you don't know conveys so much in that mere instant, that you are otherwise undesirable, that your social network is lacking, etc. It's just an immediate ick. Approaching a woman at a bar or a singles event is a completely different story. That's socially acceptable. You just said you don't want a man that can't find a woman in their own social network, so how is a bar or singles event any better? How is it better to cold approach at a bar full of alcohol…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 11:51 AM
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Sounds like a lifetime of missed opportunities young women have plenty of opportunities
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 11:45 AM
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A lot of career focused people either don't date or stay with one person for a long time. They don't have the time and energy to go on lots of dates and meet new people all the time, so either they stick to a loyal and stable partner or they don't put effort at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 11:32 AM
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If you are a woman, it is easier to get casual sex than a relationship. If you are a man, it is easier to get a relationship than casual sex. Any man who has a lot of casual sex doesn't get into relationships because they don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 11:31 AM
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At that point they didn’t even know who each other were, mistaking each other for dead spouses from decades ago. It’s literally never too late until your genitals give out. You talk about it like this is a desirable outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 11:25 AM
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You had to work a salaried job for awhile, but most of your success is based on the year and location you were born since it meant that your prime working years coincided with a huge economic boom and you were able to get into two fields that, like anything lucrative, have become increasingly competitive and harder to break into. If you told someone to do what you did, which was become an RN, start a real estate wholesale business, and invest in crypto, they would never be able to make the money…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 11:18 AM
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This is the only sub I have seen on reddit where there isn't a single hivemind circle jerk. You have the feminists, the blue pillers, the BPs and RPers, and different sides that clash and don't always agree but you see both sides of the argument unlike the rest of reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:42 PM
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There are nerds who look like this American Idol Season 9 Andrew Fenlon - House of the Rising Sun (youtube.com) I hate regulars that do nothing but gaslight men here and think they're too dumb to realize what's going on
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:29 PM
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If you never got lucky from crypto you'd still be grinding. Plenty of smarter and harder working people never got lucky. Plenty of dumber and lazier people did.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 07:59 AM
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I mean you as a "professional" are discriminating against potential clients for being single men. I'm the furthest thing from a feminist, that's the actual correct use of the word sexist. It does seem to generally be the case that men are less interested in owning a home if they are not also settled down, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 05:27 AM
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Youre just making sexist assumptions
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 12:10 AM
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Do you have evidence parents are more likely to help women than men? They definitely have a bias towards women, but parents who actually have money will help out their kids regardless of gender. Why do you think that? In the years after buying a house when rents go up and up, she will be paying much less cash on shelter than she would if she rented. So it might make her low on cash at first, but within 5 years she’ll have more cash than any of her friends who are still renting. Most parts of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 01:33 PM
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why?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 12:37 PM
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As for Hollywood men, perhaps explain who is using steroids. It is such a sweeping statement with zero basis in fact. Leonardo dicaprio- nope. Tom Hanks-nope. Tom cruise-nope. Brad Pitt- nope. Chris Pratt- possibly but not long term. Chris hemsworth-possible but because of his role. I could keep going. And majority of these stars are no where near 6ft. Some are over but most are not. All those actors you listed are 5'11 -6'3 except Tom Cruise, who is exceptionally short for a leading male in Hol…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 12:34 PM
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There are plenty of men who are uglier and have less money than Jeff Bezos with better looking women. Lauren used to be a stunner but her looks have seriously faded. I've seen a lot of wealthy, older men who have been able to use their money to attract younger, good looking women and they aren't even close to Jeff Bezos' wealth (obviously). I have known a lot of fairly wealthy people (think 10s of millions and could be retired in their early 40s level of wealth) and the truth about these guys is…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 12:19 PM
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I don't think any guy can handle an open relationship if they can't accept the fact that pretty much any girl will be able to more easily find partners than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:44 AM
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An economy that decouples the value of labor from wages and social media are much greater contributors
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:25 AM
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Mmm I've been around older and younger men (friends and acquaintences), neither care for themselves that great tbh. IME there's certain guys that can get away with being losers and still gets girls. Guys who are tall, rich and popular, specifically. Yeah true then they would have to just try to beat the war of attrition and try to keep the girls interest for the longest. Instead they have to be able to win over the girl with a few minute interaction, text over a few days or weeks, and go out on …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 09:58 AM
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Men tend to not look after themselves as much as women tbh. Women tend to have some skincare and drink less, have less worse habits. The older generation of men definitely, the younger generation seems to care a lot more about this. I think before you meet them its about looks, but once you meet its less about looks. Unless you find them repulsive lol. I agree, but that's why it's harder these days. Most people aren't getting the opportunity to platonically hang out as much as they used to, so i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 09:43 AM
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Dating is never easy as a man, but it is generally easier for those reasons for men that make the best of their situation. I disagree with you on 1, if both men and women take care of themselves and especially if men don't go bald they age far more graceful than women (because they weren't "beautiful" to begin with). For 3 most dating today is much more looks focused because there are fewer opportunities to let women get to know your personality so that their interest can grow, and instead it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 07:51 AM
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This is why debates go nowhere in this sub, nobody especially not the women even bother reading or understanding the very basics of red pill/manospherian ideology. 1) men's looks improve with age, as they grow more facial hair, become more muscular, dress better, etc 2) financial success becomes more important for dating success with age, for many men they are in a much better position later in life and are able to leverage this 3) as women get older, they prioritize serious relationships more a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:42 PM
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BB is the norm in the east, the difference is that you get a better deal for being bb than in the west where many men are bb without even getting the girl
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:17 PM
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Luck is the most important factor in making wealth for average people. I know many younger people who "made" money (anywhere from a few hundred thousand to about a million) from crypto/stocks during that time and most got wiped out. One guy made nearly half a million but lost it all and owed taxes on it (-$200k+), one guy made a few hundred but after taxes it wasn't much ($150k), another guy made a million, cashed out a bunch and lost some when crypto fell but still made out with a decent amount…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:59 PM
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You're evading the question, what did you do to retire at 31?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:04 PM
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Seeing the dorks with money that have trophy wives, this is complete nonsense. Most women in all of history including today do not marry men that fit their physical ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:00 PM
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I agree, he comes across as being immature for his age. I noticed he changed his post but I dont think someone who is in their mid to late 20s is too old to party.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 09:05 PM
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Older women who are interested in younger men have to feel that they aren't actually younger. Having muscles, a deep voice, chiseled face, facial hair, being tall etc and also being more mature and having your shit together than the average young guy is required. As far as cougars go, it's just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 08:05 PM
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I know a guy making just above $100k in a lcol area where the median home price is around twice that who is under 5'9 and 250 - 300 lbs with a legit 7. Go to any rich area and compare it to a poor area and youll probably notice that the richer areas are full of guys with wives and girlfriends who look noticeably better than them while in poorer areas or college towns you see girls choosing men for their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 07:21 PM
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For an individual earner, $100k is very comfortable. $200k is probably enough for a family of 4 to be very comfortable. $400k is definitely much more comfortable than $200k, but is much harder to get to and besides saving for retirement faster it doesn't make your lifestyle drastically different the way going from $50k-$100k or $100k-$200k might.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 07:14 PM
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1974 women had the right to open their own bank account. That was thanks to 2nd wave feminism, which as I said did good things for women while 3rd and 4th wave feminism has mostly been radicalization. There's no good changes for men due to 4th wave feminism, and paternity leave was never a feminist cause, it was championed by MEN. I'd argue there's still tons that are needed to be done for parental leave rights anyway. Marriage rates are the lowest they've been in decades and average age of firs…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 09:32 AM
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They already had a choice in 2nd wave feminism. The difference now is that 3rd and 4th wave feminism tells us to "believe all women" and puts men down.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 06:37 PM
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Which alternate dimension do you live in where you think a short, out of shape non white man can just go out to a club or bar and women will just offer to sleep with him? I really wanna know because either I can go up there and pick up a new girl every weekend or trip out on whatever it is you're taking
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 04:52 PM
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Maybe relative to 1930, but not relative to the 1960s
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 04:42 PM
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Casual sex was easier before dating apps and social media (for most men)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 04:39 PM
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It was one factor, but there were other important factors like the invention of the birth control pill
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 04:38 PM
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Theres a big difference between 2nd wave feminism and 3rd and 4th wave feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 04:23 PM
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1 and 5. Most of these are debateable but I'm shocked 1 isn't unanimous (especially from men).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 10:34 AM
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That's not the problem, the problem is that the 5'2 and below women want a guy at least 4-6 inches taller than her. Women have very superficial requirements for men, including that the guy has to be much taller than them. Everyone in the comments would be raging if men talked about women the way women do men and their bodies, and rejected them based on their boob size, ethnicity, vaginal tightness, butt size, hip width, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 12:53 AM
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Classy is not the word I'd use to describe most of these women, trashy is more appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 12:45 AM
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I have a friend who is extremely awkward but if a girl likes him they'll laugh at his lame jokes. I always knew it was obvious when girls would laugh at my lame jokes, but he's so weird that you know that the girl is just too attracted to realize how lame it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 11:49 AM
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Yes, most women have very poor social skills and exhibit antisocial behavior but still have lots of options
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 11:47 AM
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Maybe she's your coworker, or your friend's sister. Or a stranger. All of the above would respond similarly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 04:03 AM
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Fair enough. I had this one 5'2 friend who had a naturally aesthetic shape (v taper, forearms, etc) and I was surprised (back when I never lifted) that my forearms were bigger than his despite having no visible mass. He also had some of the most impressive calves I have ever seen on a natty, but he actually worked for those.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 03:02 AM
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Its not random strangers, its women you want to date, men who try to intimidate or disrespect you, etc. Having a worse body composition makes you less attractive and people wont say "oh he must be struggling to put food on the table or have some kind of disease, thats why hes skinny!" Maybe the guy is just a lazy loser, which is much more likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 02:57 AM
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Different gyms have different demographics, but if you look at the overall gym population across all the gyms they shouldn't even bother because they perpetually just look like skinny fat or fat dudes who've never seen a gym before. The worst part is that I've seen a lot of dudes who are able to get respectable numbers on the bar (225 bench, 315 squat) and they still look DYEL because of bad genetics or excess body fat. Leanness is a huge part of looking good too, but a lot of the people who loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:23 AM
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People don't really give you a pass for that. They care about results. That applies for anything including school and the workplace. They don't care what obstacles you face, just that you give them what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:14 AM
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Yeah similar to tall men without steroids. Much easier to look thick and muscular below 6' without steroids than above
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 09:36 PM
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How old is the general population? It seems in under 40 populations there are a lot more tall men and in older ones I see much more men that are average or below height.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 09:35 PM
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Dated tall women with great curves. However it's easier for smaller women to have proportionately fat tits and ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:02 PM
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Beards are natural and makeup isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 03:59 PM
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If it were so easy it would be more common. The average dude at the gym is a 25%+ body fat permabulker and few guys are jacked. And btw 18% is still much leaner than the average dude, it's not as fat as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 03:55 PM
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I think a genuine 6'5 is quite rare, but in a big city on a night out is not that hard to find. It seems everyday I see 6'3 guys though. Looking at the height of the average guy who girls tend to date/fuck/orbit though you would think the average height is 6'2 or taller. Everytime I see couples I swear most of the dudes tend to be well above 6' and a lot of the time when I see groups of single dudes they're all under 5'10. Rarely do I see really tall dudes without a girl in public unless they're…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 03:52 PM
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I've known tons of guys who can chat up strangers, have large social circles and female friends and have been single for many years. I'm talking guys who are in their late 20s and still virgins. And then are the guys who have few friends who are even worse. I've always been someone who never kept a lot of friends but would meet new people constantly, and despite a non existent social circle that didn't make talking to girls any more challenging. But these days I guess you can say I'm more like M…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:58 PM
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I could tell you as far back as middle school how obvious this was. Before middle school, most boys and girls played separately. Now all of a sudden boys are interested in hanging out with girls. What changed? Puberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:41 PM
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It's basically Karen vs Incel
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:34 PM
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That's so succinctly put. Women's minds are an obstacle to their bodies. Frankly when I fully realized "women are people too!" and that I hate most people, I lost a lot of interest in pursuing women. The difference however is that if I don't like someone, then even if they are physically attractive I don't want to touch them, and I am more attracted to someone who might not be as physically attractive if I grow to like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:33 PM
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The worst women in this sub are the married ones, they're just as unempathetic as all the sex workers
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:28 PM
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I've known feminism was bullshit for a long time, just surprised people can still buy into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:26 PM
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A lot of those men would hide it from you and not tell you about it IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:21 PM
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This is how I feel about the women. So many of them are unempathetic to lonely men and they bully, mock, and put them down. Not even the extreme ones, just guys who say "I have a really hard time dating even though I am college educated, have my own place, a decent job and lots of friends" and then get attacked by harpies who insist "oh you must be a misogynist who deserves it because all normal men get to have lots of sex with beautiful women because they're good people who are kind and deserve…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:20 PM
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Hypersexuality is actually a symptom of childhood trauma - isolation, neglect, emotional and physical abuse, etc. If you were to know people like this IRL the commonality they tend to have is that they had a bad childhood and little positive social interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:14 PM
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Having met these type of dudes IRL some are so far deep its not really possible to help them out because they just drag you down with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:11 PM
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Pretty high sex drive guy here - I still have a high amount of desire but also disgust now because of socializing with women and understanding their mindset. Now I see them as not that different from men and am actually not so interested in even interacting with women much at all. Let me tell you, I agree that IRL I've met some really sex obsessed men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:08 PM
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I expected when you started to acknowledge the disadvantage that short men face that you would be more aware of why it isn't that simple for men to overcome loneliness, but I'll come back to this and give you a longer response of you're interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:04 PM
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As an average height man, it's very apparent how being 6'+ (really 5'11 barefoot) is an advantage and every inch above that only seems to increase the advantage. I want to say that I've never experienced any issues as I've dated from 4'11 to 5'8 and I am taller than most girls (90%+) but I won't deny that the percentage of girls who are interested in me is much higher at smaller sizes. The height preference in women is very shallow and bothers me because dating is the only factor in my life wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 01:50 PM
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Even in the mainstream media, CNN of all places, they are talking about how men are struggling to date these days. On this sub and irl however it seems like most older married men are very ignorant towards young men's plight.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:51 AM
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What do you mean he thought they were actors?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:43 AM
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My inbox is blowing up with female android users, but no marriage proposals yet (jk)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 09:07 PM
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Why did you switch
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 07:31 PM
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Are you into gaming?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 07:26 PM
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They all look and act very similarly but fewer of them are likely to have some kind of niche interest that they are interested in. Youll probably see more gym rats, gamers, skaters, surfers that are men than women and theyll also have a look related to that interest. Most women arent as interested in things like that and are less likely to have a style specific to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 07:24 PM
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I think you dont have to apply all those things exactly as stated - the general idea about most women being basic people who listen to basic music and have basic phones still applies
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 07:15 PM
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Redditors are not normal people
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 07:12 PM
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I like avocados too
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 07:11 PM
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Yeah in the states everyone is obsessed with iPhone but in most of the world Androids are the norm because people dont want to pay double the price for the brand
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 07:10 PM
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Most women aren't in CS either
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 03:51 PM
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Being in the US is the most likely reason someone would be on a pill sub
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 03:44 PM
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That's cause you guys go after the same exact type of woman every time whether you realize it or not People keep mimicking this as a response but no one says what this type is or how to actually find the other types of women. If you want a gamer girl ,they are still a minority of women and are not likely to advertise that so how do you actually find them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 03:44 PM
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Most women are basic, so you're more likely to run into basic women than ones who are not
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 03:42 PM
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Women on Reddit are definitely not normal women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 03:40 PM
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Cause not that many woman have Instagram young women are disproportionately the main demographic that uses social media (more in the states) and Instagram is one of the top 5 most used social media
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 03:34 PM
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Don't think I've met a female android user now that I think about it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 03:31 PM
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I have, and I'm not really looking for one anytime soon. I appreciate that you have an unusually upbeat and optimistic spirit around here, especially because it seems like a lot of the married women in this sub just like to bully the men here. I'm not the most cheerful person but the doomers on reddit and especially this sub are a whole other thing. Hope they don't get you down because more positive people are good to have here. Im always curious how some people seem to be in such high spirits a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 12:03 AM
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The red pill community has a much more realistic perspective on dating than the blue pill/main stream media narrative. I don't say that I am a red piller because in the late 2010s as it started gaining more traction I started seeing a lot more people IRL who openly use those talking points, and it's pretty clear that those people who have taken anonymous posts from internet strangers to heart like a Bible verse have some screws loose. Now it's so mainstream it seems like most younger men are rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 10:16 PM
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A less predictable one
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 10:10 PM
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You seem to care a lot about what a stranger thinks despite what you say. You're also incapable of processing humor and are easily offended like most women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 10:10 PM
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I've never seen a relationship that is as egalitarian and ideal as you describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 10:08 PM
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I always thought mid sized towns were the best middle ground. In small towns the lack of anonymity seems to limit hook ups and the competition and angriness of city people also makes it challenging. Mid sized cities are nicer than big cities and more anonymous than small cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 08:04 PM
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Typical NPC response from a ppd woman. It would be easy to make an AI that can generate 90% of the nagging and nastiness of the women on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 07:57 PM
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Most people in the world have that view of relationships, and those relationships tend to be more successful
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 07:34 PM
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If there's anything I've learned from interacting with lots of people is that most people really are NPCs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 07:33 PM
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So nothing a dog can't provide
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 07:24 PM
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This generation is incredibly antisocial
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 07:04 AM
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Age gap couples are very common. 3-7 years is pretty typical especially as women enter the 25+ range, and even 10-15 year gaps aren't rare either. I've seen gaps as large as 13 years where the guy didn't even look like an older dude. What's rare is seeing couples with large age gaps where the dude is obviously older.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:32 PM
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There's always signs from the beginning and it doesn't take that long for more to keep showing. The vast majority of the time they are just ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 05:20 AM
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The planet will be just fine. Whether we are able to live on it or not is another story, but the planet will still exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 09:22 PM
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It clearly didn't work for you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 09:17 PM
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You're describing them as being above average physicially and assuming they are the cream of the crop in terms of social skills and charisma. The disingenuity of women here is appalling.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 06:58 PM
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The OP was parroting a talking point about how its capitalisms fault dating sucks, my point is that a man's economic status isn't that important for dating success and women themselves should have more personal responsibility because they make things suck for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 06:56 PM
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It's not just working, it's living in an aging society where there are more middle aged and retirement aged people than teenagers and college age people and most of the country is just a very spread out collection of loosely tied suburbs where you have to spend hours of your life alone in a car to get anywhere, and as a result there's few places where you can live, go outside and walk around and be surrounded by your peers and make friends and meet partners organically instead of from the intern…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 02:59 AM
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I disagree on most of this. Most dudes out there getting with a lot of girls don't care about stability. Theres two kind of broke dudes, neither care about the future: the overweight, unattractive man child who lives at home and has no life, probably watches too much porn and masturbates a lot and plays video games or smokes weed. And two, the attractive broke guy whose only difference is he puts in effort in the gym and his appearance and his free time is spent chasing girls and getting laid. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 02:55 AM
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Don't see a lot of info from OP but it sounds like his wife isn't very into him so I agree he should leave
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 02:43 AM
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Being a good person is the least important factor in attracting a partner. Looks is easily the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 02:33 AM
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It's funny how hard women IIT are rationalizing that there has to be something wrong with Dan if he struggles to date, but the truth is that Dan is the exact profile of most guys who struggle. They refuse to acknowledge that women are incredibly harsh in evaluating men and ironically they are all going out of their way to criticize a guy who doesnt exist, which shows their disdain for the majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 02:00 AM
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That isn't what OP described. They said someone who is more average than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 01:46 AM
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It's mostly about location, meaning you go out a lot and live in an area with a lot of young, attractive single girls. But looks are a huge factor too, meaning that being a very good looking guy will mean a lot of girls that wouldn't have been interested otherwise are very open to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 12:19 AM
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I've gone from not to hot and back and forth and the way women treat men that are hot is way different than 90% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 06:03 AM
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This is reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 06:02 AM
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Yes, but no. Since more men compete, the bar to be above average is higher. A lot of girls with nice bodies don't even go to the gym. Im above average in most respects except height (average) and dating as a man is a race to the bottom just like every other part of capitalist society. Even if you win, you're still a rat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 06:00 AM
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I already said the girl wasn't that attractive. And it's like I said, the guy has a scarcity mentality and will be alone for a long time if he leaves the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 10:26 PM
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You do realize at 26 a six figure salary is basically top 1% for your age?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 09:08 PM
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In NYC the odds are better because of raw numbers. Other parts of the country where there's a higher ratio of Chads to Becky's are much worse because there aren't enough Becky's to go around for Billy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 09:04 PM
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I think that women who deny this either have little to no interaction with average men, or they have little to no empathy. I described it to a girl this way: If you don't walk past a guy (or on dating apps, scroll past him) and immediately think "he's cute" or "I'd date him" (or swipe right on him), then most other girls probably won't either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:54 PM
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Yes I fetishize women who are the same race as me and hate American women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:35 PM
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That's why its on women's terms, they can cheat and leave for another man even when they have a loyal provider who treats her like a kween
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:28 PM
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White savior complex at its finest
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:11 PM
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In the real world I see average men who get turned down constantly and stay single for long periods of time unless they're willing to enter a long term relationship on women's terms
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:01 PM
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She's a stripper who wishes her dad would die, that's why (literally)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 05:13 AM
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You don't need to share what your therapist tells you with me
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 05:04 AM
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Being a snobby bitch doesn't make you right, it just makes you a snobby bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 03:50 AM
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Religious women in the west are not an exception to the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 06:00 PM
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Look at the ratios by location.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 05:30 PM
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Women: It's a red flag if a man doesn't love his mother also women: it's a red flag if a man loves his mother more than me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 10:47 AM
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Autistic men and women are not the same, and autistic men especially tend to be mentally far behind their peers. Meaning, shut the fuck up and let him enjoy his relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 10:43 AM
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Her bf is also autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 10:42 AM
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What does similar place in life even really mean? I know women 10-20+ years older than me with a fraction of the mental maturity, and I've known women several years younger than me with more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 10:41 AM
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But even religious women (other than Islam maybe) have a nonzero amount of bodies. So do religious men. American women are American women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 10:30 AM
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The western US has to be one of the hardest places to date for men. Bad ratios, huge surplus of extremely rich people and super good looking dudes, really spread out, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 10:20 AM
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I was surprised when she said she was 38, I thought she was much older
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 06:09 AM
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Your data shows there are more men than women. Because the population is so big, there are literally millions more dating age men than women in the states, and due to geographical distribution the ratios are even worse, I'm not reaching you're just another gaslighting woman in PPD who hates to acknowledge the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 06:07 AM
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Not exactly, go filter out the US census official data by location and age. Certain regions are more even and some have more women. But in other locations and overall, there are more prime dating age men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 05:54 AM
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No, there are more young men than young women. Since men are disproportionately the victims of premature deaths/violence the populations starts shifting towards more women around the 40s or 50s and after that there are more women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 04:38 AM
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Relationships are work, and being in a committed relationship means giving more power to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 03:25 AM
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They are obsessed with it in this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 03:23 AM
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Most young girls date behind their parents' backs anyway, even the most goody two shoes religious conservative girls often date guys their parents don't approve of. Besides, most dads wouldn't approve of most men for their daughter anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 03:23 AM
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I’m happy to continue to support, protect and warn young women off creepy old men who target them for their naivety. This narrative of old men "targeting" fully grown adult women and being manipulative predators is a joke. Maybe, younger women are more attractive and men of most age groups are just inherently interested in them over women who are older, less attractive and more unpleasant?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 03:21 AM
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Your last sentence is the reason why the west is falling apart, no kidding
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 11:23 PM
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A woman who is 50+ isn't inherently smarter or more mature than one half her age. Old women complaining about men dating younger women is nothing more than gatekeeping.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 11:21 PM
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The power imbalance thing that libfems on the internet keep complaining about is a load of crap. Younger women have the most power in relationships while they are at their most desirable, unless you're talking about a middle age retail store manager dating a 16 year old cashier this is monsene.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 11:14 PM
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If older men can easily get decent women 5, 10, or even 20 years younger then why would they want a woman their age who is washed up? The old bitter hags hate having to think about how low their real value in the SMP is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 11:11 PM
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As if the old bitter women are the ones who can afford to be picky
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 11:05 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mhdvqm43m_M
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:58 AM
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A lesbian comic made a joke about neither her nor her date wanted to pay for their own meal at dinner
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:31 AM
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One of the ways you can tell if you're in a nice neighborhood are the type of dogs people have.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:38 AM
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Yikes they really shouldn't allow just anyone to have pitbulls.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:35 AM
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Its true theres more risk now to getting women, but that means people with low inhibition like criminals and sociopaths are more likely to get action than a nerd in an office
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:58 AM
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Men used to be valued for being a provider. Now they are used for being providers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 02:51 AM
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She has a point - to survive as a worker bee you have to be a spineless bootlocker, and in today's economy there is more stability in being a worker bee vs a risk taker
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:28 PM
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I explained this to a woman in this should and she kept trying to argue against it. A lot of people can't handle the truth, which is that there are hundreds of millions of men on the planet that will probably die alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:18 PM
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Some rich men lead with their wallet because they have been conditioned to believe its what they're supposed to do. Other rich men are more protective of their wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:13 PM
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I'm sure a lot of these guys are probably already hitches and/or aware of the gold diggers strategy to meet rich men at expensive places.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 08:17 PM
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The problem with approaching at the gym I generally see: 1) gender ratio 2) most of the women are taken 3) it's hard to tell the high school girls from the college/post college girls apart sometimes 4) gym cliques can be hard to break into 5) girls don't typically use the same equipment as men because they have different workout goals, so less opportunity to interact 6) I think a lot of people don't go at the exact same time or skip days, so I don't always see the same girl often or more than a …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 08:16 PM
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People underestimate how often non famous, regular cute girl next doors fuck really famous celebrities.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:03 AM
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Every Time Naruto Says "Believe it" in Part 1 Naruto (youtube.com)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:50 AM
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You didn't answer my question
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:27 AM
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I've lived in different areas where the average age was very young, very old, and in the middle, and by far the #1 factor that affects women's looks is their age. Women really do age like milk.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:26 AM
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The hardest thing about being "ex-redpill" is that the more actual "touching grass" I do and experience with women/age I get the more it confirms that a lot about their beliefs are spot on. It's crazy seeing how those hot party girls that used to exclusively date 200+ lb white meat heads in her prime years is now going for a pudgy dad bod Asian guy now that she's getting older and looking to settle. By the way she has 6 figures of debt and hates working too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:23 AM
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A 35 year old with plastic surgery doesn't look as good as a 25 year old does naturally
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:59 PM
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One way dating as a man gets harder is they're expected to have their shit together more as they age, but women are not
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:03 PM
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How short is too short? Most people are painfully average. Let me explain. As someone who has spent a lot of time around smart and well off people, meaning successful millionaire next door types, the vast majority (men and especially women) are physically unremarkable. Maybe tall or short, but someone who you would probably walk past in public and not notice. The main thing is that they usually don't have good bodies and are out of shape and everything else follows - their style, posture, etc. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:05 PM
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When people see unattractive guys with attractive girls, what they don't see is the bus load of Chads she dated and slept with before that guy. After realizing that she won't get the relationship she wants with Chad, she lowers her looks standards while increasing others (money, respectfulness, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:51 PM
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Yes in the US there is a weird dichotomy between the extremely conservative and religious people who get married young (Utah which is dominated by Mormons has the youngest marriage age in the country) and the people who don't want to settle down and want to get multiple degrees and have a career first. Most of the US is also rural/suburban sprawl, so the opportunity to meet partners for a lot of people is much more limited.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:47 PM
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By what she says it sounds like she's refused to pay at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:54 PM
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American women are the lowest quality with the highest entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:50 PM
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Some men don't realize that it's not just women who can be gold diggers, men can be too. Except most men are willing/expected to pay for their women, while most women aren't expected/willing to do the same even if they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:46 PM
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She was blueballing him for commitment. Don't be stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:04 PM
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The signs are usually obvious, it's just that pretty much all women have some amount of red flags so finding a girl that has enough signs that point to yes is hard
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:26 PM
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The first scenario happens today, I know guys who died not knowing they raised Chad's bastard child. And you're assuming women cant have their cake and eat it too, they will cheat on you, take your money, and leave you to take care of the kids while getting fucked bareback by Chads using your money. That shit wouldn't have happened back in the day the way it does now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:24 PM
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There's a higher chance of being cucked today then back then. I don't know why you think girls have the decency to break off a relationship where they're getting all the side dick they want and enjoy their loser husband's money who keeps her around because divorcing her will mean he loses all his money anyway. I've seen this so many times. At least back then it was possible to find a woman who wasn't cheating and had less opportunity/incentive to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:22 PM
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Are there girls who are in their 20s and older who are virgins and who aren't talking to a bunch of guys? Yes but the vast majority of girls are not and it's silly to assume you found the exception to the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:59 PM
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It's not as if cheating didn't happen but there's no way that today where there's no consequences and it's easier to cheat than ever that it isn't happening more than it used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:55 PM
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No, now they cheat divorce their husband and leave them for the guy they were hooking up with and their husband's money.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:53 PM
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If women didn't want attention in the gym they wouldn't be wearing butt enhancing shorts/pants and sports bras
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:48 PM
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Still not enough chairs to go around for all the single men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:09 PM
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So you're saying most women are trash
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:58 PM
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Dating for men is like a game of musical chairs. Women are the chairs, and there aren't enough for them to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:12 PM
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Within about 2 generations the current marriage rate is a bit more than half of what it used to be. A good amount of those not getting married are having kids out of wedlock, but I'm not sure why you're so stubborn and defensive when your (false) worldview is challenged. A good amount of those getting married are more likely to be religious than people who don't get married. TBH in a society like a few decades ago when everyone was getting married and traditional expectations were enforced, it m…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:36 AM
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So you're saying the cause of male singledom is... male singledom? Do you have any logical explanation for why men cannot or do not want to get into a relationship with women interested in them or do you have another roundabout answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:10 AM
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Age of marriage is going up and rates of marriage are going down, so no they're not
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 10:18 PM
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So most women are not worth getting serious with
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 09:15 PM
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It's a big part of it. What's your explanation?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 09:13 PM
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The problem is that there are more young men than women and there are more men "grinding" and self improving. Many more men are into sports, working out, and are working on their career. Most women dont do any of those things, and it is very hard to find a woman that is attractive and has anything to offer. A lot of women aren't even attractive but still have nothing to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:55 PM
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If a man "ruined" a woman and wast caught hooking up or got her pregnant, he was usually forced to marry her. But there have always been kings and emperors with harems and figures like Rasputin that were powerful and influential and had as many women as they wanted. So the dichotomy between HVM and LVM always existed, low value men were always shamed while high value men did what they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:40 PM
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You can literally fill multiple continents the size of Australia with the amount of excess dating age single men that exist in the world. It's definitely a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:35 PM
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Why would anyone want to get serious with a non religious or traditional woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:11 PM
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5'6" is tall for a woman, short for a man. You would probably unalive yourself if you tried to date as a man like Norah Vincent did. She was a 6' tall lesbian woman who tried to date as a man to expose male privilege and realized women are actually the privileged ones and struggled with depression as a result of her experience for 15+ years before she ended it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:00 PM
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The founder of the eugenics movement was a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 07:53 PM
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Translation: the men you want don't want you and you don't want the men that want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 07:47 PM
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It's funnier
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:12 PM
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At your height and weight you can definitely bring those numbers up but those are already fairly decent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:43 AM
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Not a literal mommy, a figurative mommy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:42 AM
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You only know the truths you can observe to be true. A muscle mommy is a jacked woman because that is rare, since you said you lift daily and are like 5'9 165 that makes you one. You're also apparently 55+ so you're definitely a mommy. What's your total on the big 3?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 12:06 AM
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That's rough. Even now it's still hard for Asian men, the main difference is that they are working harder to compensate so a lot of white girls and kpop obsessed POC would take them over a mediocre white guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 12:01 AM
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Part of the problem is that nobody can see you or the women and men that exist in your life so they may as well be fictitious. How do I know that you're really a muscle mommy? How do you know I actually have vascular arms and a chiseled jaw? The majority if not all of the western relationships I have experienced and observed in others can be explained by redpill concepts, so it's very hard to believe that you can reliably prove that it is not that common place when I can't see the evidence for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 09:22 PM
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I'm not surprised either because most hapas I've known have racist white dad's and self hating asian moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:57 PM
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If anything the minority of women here are extremely vocal
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:56 PM
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Too many FDSers/feminasties in this sub for that to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:56 PM
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This is a minority of the population though (people who have advanced education).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:53 PM
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You have to be above average as a POC man, because the average and below average POC women with inferiority complexes would rather have a mediocre white man than a mediocre POC man. When you see good looking white women with a black guy, they're always with a 6'3 muscular BBC, but they're also open to a 5'9 skinny fat white guy. Same thing with other POC men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:46 PM
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My friend is in his late 20s and is a virgin with a very ideal view of women. He has been in the friend zone for over a decade and he introduced me to her platonically. I always told him he needs to stop being so emotionally invested in her. After a few months of meeting me she wanted to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:38 PM
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So similar to the average redditor
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:31 PM
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Not 80%, 80 out of 294
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:29 PM
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No, 80 out of 294 respondents. That's about a quarter of them. I'm surprised how many married/ltr are here tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:26 PM
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Game is bullshit. All you need are looks and confidence, with looks being much more important. If you have those, then you have your pick of women and really only have to compete for the best quality ones. For people who are not genetically gifted besides being a celebrity or something else that is nigh impossible for most people, you have to really drop your standards. I knew a guy who was facially really ugly even with some cosmetic help, but regularly got laid. He was a smooth talker and real…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 09:37 AM
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I've realized by talking to older people that some parts of human nature are very hard to change - life has always been hard especially as a man, in dating, financial success and other ways. Men have always had to prove themselves to society. The problem is that in the past few decades society has changed in such a way that men have to work harder with less opportunities, steeper competition and less reward. This really stuck in my head when looking at the kind of opportunities that the older ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 09:33 AM
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You don’t have to be terribly attractive, you just have to be willing to fuck a man or a woman even uglier than you. That’s literally all. The obstacle is all mental. Anyone can do it if they have no standards at all FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:58 AM
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Most unmarried families don't really resemble functional two parent households. Good for your friends for having it work for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 01:01 AM
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Right but most people don't want to, and most children are born to unmarried couples
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:53 AM
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Didn't that generation have huge divorce rates?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:53 AM
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This isn't true. Lots of women who do long distance relationships with men who are providers/coparents do this. It's more common in BIPOC communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 10:08 PM
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Lots of foreign workers pay into social security that they aren't entitled to ever receive. Social security pay outs are going down and contributions required are going up. Meaning that the current working generation is paying to a system that benefits the current retirees more, because we need young people to keep working and paying into the system for the current generation of retirees to get paid. Social security is a ponzi scheme, instead of being subsidized by our powerful government we spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 08:50 PM
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This is already what's happening in the west. Import younger immigrants who will work and have kids to support the aging white population.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 07:50 PM
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You really have no clue if you think girls don't keep side dick. If anything girls do it more than guys do
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:47 PM
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Ive already been asking you about how she holds men accountable and you've never given an example. Its very difficult to want to respond to women in this sub when the conversations are so one sided. But I will start with the entire premise of her post that if a skinny guy wants to date a skinny girl that's entitled being completely absurd rather than a reasonable preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 06:13 AM
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This is very vague and I disagree. She frequently makes out of touch and bizarre takes that make me wonder if she even talks to men irl
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 11:16 PM
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Holds men accountable for what? In western society women lack accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 09:33 PM
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This is something I've been seeing for years. I've always believed for men's own sake that avoiding porn and masturbation is best, as young men today are bombarded by porn constantly. But the mainstream narrative against porn is all about how a very MALE problem affects WOMEN, that women are the real victims in all this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 08:33 PM
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Most of the men you've been with were probably sluts too. Most men with lower N counts and even some with higher ones don't want a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 08:30 PM
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Male genital mutilation is huge in the states, and in any country that practices female circumcision men are also circumcised.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 08:07 PM
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What comment are you talking about? Lilith is an infamous poster in this sub who consistently makes bad takes and stonewalls constantly to any opposition to her stupidity
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 07:58 PM
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Nope there's just a shortage of quality women. In the states, there are more than 2 million men in excess of women 18 to 55. The younger the age group, the greater the surplus. Certain regions have more noticeable disparities than others. Men are literally fighting for scraps.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 07:51 PM
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Doesn't help when all women under 30 are addicted to their phones and use social media/ dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 07:20 PM
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I have a friend who has only been with his long term gf in his life and stayed with her for nearly a decade, and he said he's not tempted to break it off to explore because he sees how all of his average and slightly above average male friends who are perpetually single struggle. Knowing average or slightly above average women is a completely different experience. They get so much male attention and often from dudes physically out of their league and dry spells for them do not exist. I used to r…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 07:19 PM
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Most of PPD at this point is literally just a bunch of awkward virgins being gaslighted by man hating SJW feminists I swear. A lot of men are "maybes" to women. They have to convert that "maybe" into a yes with some effort. Women also care a lot about what their friends think, they are extremely hive minded. Meaning if a girl gets approval from their friends, then a guy can go from a maybe to a yes. But if a girl doesn't get approval from their friends, then the guy can go from a maybe to a no. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:36 PM
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The guys who get the most action are usually losers. They're just good looking and have the free time to chase girls. There are more men than women below 50 so if everyone woman paired off there would be many men who would still be alone. Women have an unfair advantage in dating and the women in this sub who deny that are either stupid or evil. Probably both.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:31 PM
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Pretty much all middle class educated societies have some amount of pushback on gender roles these days
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 09:40 PM
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Much of NC has more women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 07:34 PM
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Engineering schools have at least 2 guys for every girl, and some classes are 90% male or more. And there are hardly any girls that are single/attractive anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 07:31 PM
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This isn't true. I get approached by women a lot and I've never found them unattractive and am always impressed by their willingness to overcome their social programming to try and talk to me, even though it's usually awkward. My longest relationship was with a girl who was direct in her intentions with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 07:29 PM
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Male competition in Cali is much higher than female competition and out of the million and half or so extra men in prime dating ages than women 25% of them are in Cali.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 07:13 PM
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Not anymore than normal. Where are you located where this is happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 07:11 PM
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Omfg why hasn't OP been banned this is actually one of the dumbest threads I've seen on this sub and that's saying something.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 06:18 PM
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This is hard to come by in the states. What cities did you have in mind?
/r/ExRedPill19/11/23 12:41 PM
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Yep the wage gap is a myth. In all major cities women make as much as men, it's only in less educated poorer areas where women don't have access to cush jobs filling up a seat where most of the economy relies on hard physical labor do women earn less than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 12:39 AM
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You have to get them young, otherwise the pool dries up fast. Smaller towns seem to have a higher percentage of perpetually single dudes, and when those same dudes move away to bigger ones they tend to finally meet a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 12:09 AM
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In such countries the gap between the top and bottom men are even wider.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 10:06 PM
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I already did. Are you gonna counter it? Women like you describe a fake reality and blame men for losing in a world rigged against them. Why are you telling men to get ripped and rich just so they can fight over broke girls who don't go to the gym? Because that's what the reality is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:56 PM
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And they don't understand why their ideal man won't commit... Because being an ideal man is hard work, and every woman wants that same ideal. He's not gonna just let any basic Becky lock that down.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:43 PM
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You litter this sub with useless posts and stonewall 100% of users who try to engage with you. You're a clear cut example of what's wrong with western women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:42 PM
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If 9/10 apples in a basket are rotten...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:38 PM
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But women still expect men to be white knights in shining armor who have the keys to the kingdom just for their special kweens who are totally not NPC bots like all the other kweens 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:56 PM
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It's very damaging because it's subtle. Most cartoons and shows aimed at children were never overtly focused on romance, but Johnny Bravo stood out because it was a recurring gag that he would flirt/hit on every attractive woman that existed and that was almost always met with very negative reception. I actually really like the show as a fan of 90s cartoons, and maybe part of the humor is that the kind of guy that a lot of women IRL would find attractive (a narcissistic and tall, well built blon…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 07:53 AM
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That reminds me of Johnny Bravo, a cartoon about a muscular Elvis impersonator who lives with his mom who would consistently get viciously beaten/attacked for hitting on attractive women. Growing up with content like this is it surprising a whole generation is afraid of approaching women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:53 PM
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Any other cool stories about Hollywood you care to share? Is it as crappy as people make it seem?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:43 PM
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Schrodingers chadlet
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:03 PM
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Suburbs can be walkable. For example in the suburbs I grew up in, the 70s and 80s construction homes are actually very walkable to grocery stores, schools, parks, etc. But newer constructions are built much further away from the centers of the area.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 06:30 PM
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She's been pumped and dumped too many times by Chad and won't settle for Billy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 11:32 PM
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Women very rarely become surgeons or pilots. Even in 2023 when they have plenty of advantages.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 10:18 PM
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How would you know? I doubt you spend that much time around men in their early to late 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:34 PM
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I had the misfortune to be born into a family full of severely mentally ill, narcissistic, selfish, ungrateful, hypocritical, disrespectful and toxic women. I don't know what a "good woman" looks like because I never had a good example of what that looks like. And the women that I have been with have pretty much all been toxic in one way or another. All women (AWALT as they say in the manosphere) have some combination of toxic traits, but until I can figure out where I can actually find a woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:27 PM
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Few women in my life has ever been a good woman. No matter what positive qualities they have, they are greatly overshadowed by their horrible ones. Parents, siblings, cousins, girlfriends, even my female friends who are good friends I recognize would probably not be good partners for me either but we get along because I avoid being romantically involved with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 07:21 PM
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I made a distinction between virgin and inexperienced. A guy who had one or two one night stands in their early twenties or one relationships that lasted a few months is still inexperienced if he ends up sexless for the next 5 years especially relative to the women of his age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 07:05 PM
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Women want men to commit, but don't want to be committed. They aren't loyal. Women tend to leave relationships when they get hard, and after a long enough amount of time they get bored and leave. I can't tell you how many women I've seen who are are as old as 40+ or 50+ just decide to cheat or up and leave their husband and kids. There's no real reason, they just decide they don't "love" their husband anymore, or decide to leave for another guy. It's rare for the reverse for a man to leave his w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 06:50 PM
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You realize this is the west elm Caleb girl right? She is literally famous for complaining about how she chased a 6'4 muscular white guy with options and got pumped and dumped, and I can assure you that for nearly 100% of women complaining about not being able to find a man, they are Chad chasers like her. They want the top 1% of men and their ego can't accept that they aren't the top 1% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 04:13 PM
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Marriages have been becoming less and less common. BUT also divorce rates for millennials have gotten down to 45% from the 55-60% we've seen from the generations before. That's still pretty high, especially considering that reduction is only because of the cultural shift from marriage being an expectation for everyone, which means there is no pressure for many people who would have not preferred to be married (like closeted gay men, asexuals, etc). Now the majority of kids are born to unmarried …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 03:45 PM
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Thanks for sharing your story, it was interesting to read
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 07:20 AM
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Af/bb is probably the most realistic part of the manosphere, except what you misunderstand is they don't recommend being a BB. Your conclusion about inexperienced men reeks of just world fallacy. I know plenty of men who are social, some extremely so, who are inexperienced/virgins well into their mid to late twenties. I know a guy who started a charity, volunteers, is athletic, has a large social circle and is in medical school in a big city, but has never been with anyone since HS. Oh, and he's…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 04:43 AM
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I strongly disagree that 2023 is the best year ever and your followup is factually incorrect. Marriage and dating has been on the decline for a long time. You sound really young and sheltered to be this optimistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 04:20 AM
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That's like saying a man can believe in feminism and body positivity for women but still want a hairless girl with quadruple D tits and a bubble butt and flat stomach. It goes against a bunch of the mainstream feminist rhetoric to expect women to conform to conventional beauty standards because they spend so much time saying its misogyny and the patriarchy to hold women to those standards. Women can like tall men with big muscles and big dicks and designer stubble but they should not be surprise…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:02 PM
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Not necessarily where I live, but many parts of the states is full of extremely obese (300+ lbs people) people, and where many of the women specifically who never went to college and has multiple kids from one or more men she may or may not have been married to
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:15 AM
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The women on this sub like you are really sick misandrists with no empathy. It's ironic that men who say we need to return to traditionalism, which means removing women's sexual freedom and privileges they enjoy today, would be considered misogynists. But women suggesting that we should dedicate scientific research and innovation towards altering men's biology? That's a great idea! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:52 PM
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I don't think you're the best judge of normal, and most people in this sub that have seen your posts would probably agree
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:20 AM
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What does a middle class lifestyle look like to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:00 AM
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You said people you knew who didn't live on campus and lived at home but still attended social events. What I said is that situation is a huge uphill battle and I've seen many people who may have started college shy and awkward but lived on campus away from home who blossomed from having that opportunity to be on their own and have proximity to their peers. There are so many people who forever struggle and never come out of their shell because they missed out on that experience and that is more …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 11:18 PM
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Which is more normal than living in a high income low crime neighborhood area where I currently live. The median individual income is less than $50k, which is not enough to be comfortable in such areas
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 11:14 PM
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My cock is rock hard QFT
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 10:14 PM
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Dating is really hard for men. Even for the guys who get a lot of girls and have great genetics it isn't just handed to them, there's still some effort required. The question is if you are willing to try and make the best of your situation or just be someone who complains for years without getting action because you don't want to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 10:01 PM
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Based on demographics this is actually closer to normal than a woman who is fit, mentally stable, and educated who has reasonable and healthy standards and boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 09:56 PM
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The vast majority of college kids don't get the "college experience." The vast majority are commuters like the above poster. One of the most social guys I knew was a commuter but he was definitely an outlier. People who lived on/near campus generally had far more robust social lives than those that didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 09:30 PM
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This country is now only a country of the top 10%. If you’re in the bottom 90 things are getting much worse and fast. Most people IRL don't seem to have niche opinions like on reddit, maybe because they live in bubbles (either rich or poor bubbles) but having lived in rich and poor areas I've seen that this is reality. Any place that has more available "3rd spaces" is usually in a very expensive area where most people can't afford to buy a home or rent. Very few areas outside of college towns an…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 08:22 PM
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Most people live in suburbia, or exurbia, or whatever you want to call it where there's little to do and/or few people in certain demographics. Living in a safe suburb might be fine in high school, but not in your 20s where everyone moves away for college and/or work. Most places where this isn't the case are expensive to rent and the spaces to socialize cost money.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 08:01 PM
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Meet at parties or bars. Flirt. Hook up. That's where most of the work comes in. Socializing is a skill. It takes time and effort to pick up and you don't realize it's work because you were already putting in the work. This generation for many reasons already discussed to death started pretty far behind and many of them get stuck and never improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 08:46 PM
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And lots of women see men as only one dimensional NPCs that are either useful or useless
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:53 AM
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It's the truth ¯_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:06 PM
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This isn't always true but I know most women assume this, just never say it aloud
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 05:00 PM
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That's major drawback, even 2 or 3 inches of height and life would be exponentially better.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 04:56 PM
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Are you in europe? Where did the islam thing come from? Immigrants are needed in canada/europe/america because yt ppl have so much excess wealth, they just party and fuck endlessly and don't care about working hard or settling down until it's too late (only poor white people still work hard and have kids). The west relies on importing poor immigrants who don't have wealth who are willing to work hard and make babies but once those immigrants become wealthy they stop making babies and the few bab…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 04:53 PM
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This is wrong. Poor people are having tons of kids. It's not the cost its the ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 04:48 PM
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I've seen lots of broke dudes who hide their financial situation by going out of their way to pay in the beginning. Then you get in a relationships with them and the truth comes out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:59 AM
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I know many men who are absolute catches that at a minimum look outside their cities and often outside the country for a spouse because decent quality women are hard to come by.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:44 AM
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You seem to want to justify porn use, if you want to feel good about beating your dick like it owes you money then justify it however you want. I would never advise or recommend to young boys and men that it's a good outlet for their sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 04:46 PM
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My parents didnt influence me directly but there was a lot of pressure to be successful. Ive been a top 1% earner through most of my 20s. Sometimes jobs that pay more are less stressful than lower paid ones, but there is a lot of competition that makes it hard to get those jobs in the first place. As long as you're dependent on the check for your lifestyle, there's always the fear that you can lose your job and never make the same again. Imagine you're in your 50s making $500k+ and then you get …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 04:44 PM
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If you need someone to validate your desire to endlessly beat your meat have fun
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 04:29 PM
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That was the most bs article ive ever read. None of these guys had substance abuse issues nor were overweight/sedentary. What they all had in common was porn abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 04:19 PM
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Since men who transition to women rarely pass for women the way women who transition to men do, they receive more external pressure that makes them want to detransition. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 04:07 PM
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You act like a high paying career is a cake walk. You have to put in the work, and the reward is a job where you have to put in more work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:55 PM
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Theres a reason theres so many more MTF and so many FTM detransition. IRL this is my observation too. Your post reeks of bs, men do not get respect by default, they have to prove a higher bar for competence. And most straight women would not date an FTM who no male genitals even if they pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:40 PM
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I like how the benefits of men are you assuming that you're a built high testosterone chad instead of a 5'6 low T nerd.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:36 PM
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Being gay is acceptable for men too since they're not interested in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:33 PM
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Im sure there is some studies out there. But if there isn't, I've known many young guys (early 20s) that are porn addicts and they all have erection issues or other sexual dysfunctions (and many girls end up dating these guys) and that is enough evidence for me to know too much porn use is very bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:28 PM
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Similar to shows like Friends where completely average dudes are dating a new hottie every week. It's not the over the top adult rated content that was deceiving, it was the more innocent seeming stuff that made a fake reality. Everything in the media points to high school and college being the best times of their lives, but nobody talks about how many kids are really lonely and have a hard time dating in college, and many are just trying to copy what they're told is having a good time when they…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:15 PM
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Rent is affordable in the middle of nowhere, yes. And trades are definitely not appealing to most people and are definitely not viable for women. And yes women get more financial support than men and if not they are more willing to take on debt to live it up. Big cities have always been expensive but even young experienced professionals have been priced out with the crazy rent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 07:14 PM
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Not as much as I used to but I go pretty consistently. DYEL?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 06:49 PM
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Most gyms probably not
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 05:30 AM
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I've met people at the gym and know other people that did too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 05:30 AM
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Sounds like a good time for some people
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 05:07 AM
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/u/TSquaredRecovers Either she has parents that support her financially, for example a lowly paid PhD who buys expensive luxury items and lives in an expensive apartment she couldn't afford without her parents help, or she has guys who pay for her dates including drinks, meals, drive her around (there are so many girls who refuse to drive and get free rides from friends/dudes) and if they have a boyfriend, he pays for a lot of her stuff and all of their dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 09:07 PM
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A good amount of middle class girls working fairly low paid jobs or are studying have a lot of financial support, if they don't they're usually more willing to take on debt than guys. Their parents don't even have to be ultra rich, just rich enough. The double standard I see between girls and guys in this respect is that the girls don't feel pressure to give their parents an ROI on their money and guys often do by working towards a very high earning career path. Most very high paying fields are …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 07:29 PM
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I don't understand the antisocial basement dwellers on reddit who think like this because many people who go to the gym make friends there, and many people go to the gym mostly to socialize. And yes some people meet their SOs there too. I don't know what kind of awkward socially stunted person thinks "I hope nobody tried to flirt with me in this space full of young sexy fit people!"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 07:10 PM
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You look like Matt Damon's autistic little brother you undersold yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 07:06 PM
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Which would be good advice except this generation is priced out. Harder to get into a decent job/career that will pay well enough to afford rent and save for retirement and it usually requires more education than before and school costs way more than it used to. So people start making money later and make lower real wages with more debt. I know tons of people who make decent money but they still live at home. Girls tend to go to cities more because they have someone funding their adventures and/…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 06:54 PM
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I agree. The problem is that the opportunity to live in cities with a high % of young people with busy areas like gyms, restaurants, events etc to go out to, aka 3rd places, is diminishing in the states, thats part of where the struggle comes from in dating for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 06:28 PM
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When you're a teenage boy who's never had a girl touch his penis before you think about it all the time. After you're older and have experienced women and understand the world better its easier to control your urges even if you're still pretty horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:24 PM
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Look at her reply. The girls he gets with are also fatties.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 03:35 PM
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You should have mentioned this earlier. Your brother is going after girls just as unattractive as he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 03:35 PM
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Never seen anything like this irl. Also don't know what these women look like
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 03:34 PM
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Not to mention that plenty of guys who watch porn are still interested in girls who are average/normal looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 05:43 PM
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Apex fallacy - most women when talking about men are thinking about the "elite" men because most men do not exist to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 05:15 PM
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Not as palpable as the irony of you being yet another NPC PPD woman trying to use shaming language because she has no actual argument!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:51 PM
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living in the most passive aggressive part of the US. Where would that be?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:48 PM
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Men bring everything to the table, and women can't take enough from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 04:37 PM
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This is the comment to end the whole sub
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:39 PM
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You just described all women minus the suicide part
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:37 PM
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I've known several guys that had a gf in high school an even many years into adulthood never had a relationship since
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 10:28 PM
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That's the gaslighting we always see in this sub. Always assuming the men HAD to have done something wrong because WOMEN are so virtuous and pure and innocent! They can never be in the wrong!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 10:22 PM
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You were trying to deny op's original claim, and I found in your article evidence supporting the idea that FAR MORE YOUNG MEN ARE SINGLE THAN WOMEN
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:37 AM
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Where did you find the time to get 3 degrees and make a 7 figure networth by 24? Have you ever been skinny?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:28 AM
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Young men going back as much as 40 years or so haven’t wanted actual relationships. They want to “sow their wild oats,” to speak. This hasn’t changed recently. A lot of 22 year-old guys just want to fuck around and party, for example. I would argue the same for many young women, too, although I think this is far more prevalent amongst young men. Marriage sucks. Especially for men. If girls were classier, could cook and clean, and didn't just chase guys for their looks then maybe there would be m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 02:09 AM
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Now it makes sense why you have such weird takes. You're an old lady. You would have to link that data but theres a big difference in being able to have sex one or a couple times a year and having sex on a fairly consistent basis (multiple times a month). Only having sex a few times a year is only slightly better than no sex at all
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 06:53 PM
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People like you (mostly women) want to believe in a just world where everything is righteous and fair, because you are sheltered and insulated from how most people's live are and can't handle the truth. I do not make baseless assumptions on random people I know nothing about. Knowing many, many relationships, every toxic, abusive and unhappy relationship on the outside if you did not know those people personally looks normal to bystanders. You might see an ugly guy holding hands with a prettier …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 06:49 PM
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Cities like LA are the reason the redpill exists
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:35 PM
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A quality woman is rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:36 PM
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No true scotsman fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:35 PM
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A feminist woman from the middle east is still better than a feminist in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:22 PM
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Its way way higher than that. Nearly all girls 13- 25 are on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:20 PM
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I skimmed through that very long article, and everything I saw clearly supports my pov more than yours. "Among men, those younger than 30 are by far the most likely to be single: About half of men in this age group (51%) are single, compared with only 27% of those ages 30 to 49 and 50 to 64 and 21% of men 65 and older. Women, by contrast, are by far most likely to be single later in life – roughly half of women ages 65 and older are unpartnered (49%), while those ages 30 to 49 are the least like…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:15 PM
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Exactly. I know one guy who is average height, bald and fat and his gf is conventionally attractive. He lives in a relatively cheap area and makes good money ($150k+). The way they scream and yell at each other is scary. She stays because he can provide a good lifestyle and he stays because he gets to parade around having a hotter gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:04 PM
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Many people here lack nuance. Maybe in some areas like small town america in the middle of nowhere where most dudes are 5'9 and not rich. Some areas on the other hand there is such a high percentage of very rich, very tall, and good looking dudes that average men suffer. Like in many rich areas there is no shortage of 6'2"+ dudes and even literal celebrities living there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:01 PM
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Girls I know are ready to drop even a good boyfriend of several years for the slightest thing they dont want to compromise on. Too many women on this sub keep reviving the same stupid points because they never listen to the men. They think because "ive seen an ugly guy walking around a store with a female, that must disprove red pillers!" But what they dont consider is that in many hetero relationships, men get disrespected, cheated on, and are expected to put in more work than their female coun…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 02:45 PM
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Many people stay in bad relationships and do not get divorced or break up when they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 02:41 PM
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Most men you see dont have a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 02:39 PM
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You sound like the other NPC women on this sub giving fake pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 10:21 PM
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This sub has been overrun by delusional women similar to yourself, there's definitely a lot of people here who also disagree with you. I only feel the need to comment because your stupidity would otherwise go unchecked. Im slowly making my way out of here otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 08:36 PM
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You frequently say stupid stuff in this sub, so I was telling you that your advice is useless. And by the way, its not an accomplisment as a woman to be able to attract men or get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 06:40 PM
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If Sean O'pry is a 10, then there is no shortage of male 7s, 8s and 9s. I see no shortage of chiseled, 6'2" guys with full heads of hair. The female equivalent is very very rare. Say a 5'7"+ woman with at least a c cup a gym body and thick legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:29 PM
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It's the opposite. Hot guys are such a commodity that it's not special
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:24 PM
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Seeing you post here all the time, it's definitely you, not men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:13 PM
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Go outside, to Walmart, Disneyland, or to a public college campus if you don’t College campuses are the best example of seeing girls chase men out of their league
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 07:41 AM
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That's cheap AF. I forgot tho not everyone has $120k salary like i do There's nowhere decent where you only pay $800 a month with roommates. Sucks to be poor lol You tell me, $120k isn't really that much
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 07:35 AM
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They get attention from different women than the roided dude and for different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 07:29 AM
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In some nice places single men are not allowed where famililes and women go
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:45 PM
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What city would that be
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:31 PM
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It's not because they live with their parents. It's because most people can only afford houses where there isn't an abundance of hot girls. If you parents own a home in the middle of nowhere with no major universities nearby of course you won't get girls because they don't exist. If your parents own a place in a big city/college town then you're better off living at home and bringing girls over.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:30 PM
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This is one of the most real posts I've seen in this sub where I can see that you aren't just making stuff up. If you make $100k-$200k as a single earner you don't stand out because the concentration of high earners, multimillionaires and billionaires in that area is amongst the highest in the the country if not the world. You can't compete with all the business owners and people who have made hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars from real estate there as a guy just making $100k-$200…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:29 PM
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Money only matters to the extent that it helps you meet women. For example if you are a 6'2 jacked broke dude but live with your parents in NYC where there's tons of women then you'll get more girls than a nerd living in the Washington suburbs making 10x as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:22 PM
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This. Girls hate nerds. Only guys who have the motivation to make a lot of money are nerds, because most guys are too horny and restless to do what it takes to go to a good school, get good grades, and land a solid job so instead are screwing around and just looking for a good time. Most people who make money, do it later in life (early 30s or older). Young guys who do it are usually from conservative/traditional/religious backgrounds who believe that being financially stable before marriage and…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:20 PM
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Hahahaha only $800 a month hahahahahha
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:14 PM
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It's funny how hard women IIT are fighting against OP when he's right. PPD has pretty much been overrun by woke feminists and is dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 04:49 AM
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You really don't understand anything about averages. It varies greatly by location. Average in some places might mean that most people don't have above a high school education and they make $15 an hour working at a factory. Average in others might mean that most people went to college and are making six figures. Average might mean that most people walking around have grey hair and big guts. Average might mean that most people walking around are in their 20s and fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 09:59 PM
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Thank you. You might see an average couple and these people assume because they exist they are happy and functional, but what you don't see is: they were both more fit before marriage, got fat later on, no longer have sex, the woman feels like she settled, cheats on her husband, he found out, is staying for the kids, they threaten to divorce, etc. The worst most miserable relationships and couples I've ever known, might still occasionally go out and hold hands in public. But you do not know the …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 09:52 PM
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It's not. I guarantee nearly 100% of girls interested in me IRL would have never picked me on Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 09:43 PM
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Don't forget virtually everyone was thin
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 09:35 PM
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Where in the south would this be? ATX?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 09:27 PM
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So is the average woman, but that doesn't stop them from having an active dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 09:26 PM
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The vast majority of people never move on from emotional trauma in early life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 09:10 PM
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I spent too much time worrying about school and working hard. Turns out luck has been a bigger factor than my own hard work in my success and its had a minimal impact on my quality of life. Getting girls was simpler when I was broke because I was around girls more often, and ripped. Muscles, money, drugs, looks and many other things attract girls. But the very thing that girls almost universally cannot stand are nerds. All those guys that think that the reason they are getting no girls is becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 09:01 PM
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It's funny a lot of guys will go for fat chicks thinking they're easy and because they have big boobs and butts. Then these girls think they're too good for average guys. This is why dating is messed up for average guys, average girls want hot guys because there's not enough hot girls to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:01 AM
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Girls will go to a broke college students dirty apartment to hook up and even hookup on an inflatable mattress if that's all the guy has. But tbh I've seen that if a guy can flex money it's a legit strategy and frankly the quality of girls will be better. The guy hooking up on an inflatable mattress was banging extremely obese (300+ lbs) girls. The guy with a dirty apartment was better looking so the girls were a bit more attractive but not knockouts. I knew this guy who was basically born with …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 02:57 AM
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If all it took to get a girl was a house then it was definitely easier back then
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:50 PM
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She's chubby
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:37 PM
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You're an average chubby woman, getting lots of interest from horny men isn't the flex you think it is
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:37 PM
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They're not bad people just because they're older and married, but you can't date or be a close part of their social circle as a young single guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 06:37 PM
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Typo I meant early to mid twenties but even up to early 30s these days
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:19 PM
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Not always Chads, just the guy that already had a girl coming into the venue. Meanwhile I've seen guys who fit blackpillers wettest dreams looking desperate because there are no girls to meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:18 PM
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Even worse, in many areas you won't see many women who aren't with guys already and the amount of guys there drastically outnumber the girls there. And the dudes are always better looking and more fit than average.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:01 PM
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Old people don't need to worry about making wealth like young people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 03:59 PM
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1) choice of industry is gender specific and 2) young people are the smallest group in the aging western nations that import young immigrants to hide how bad it is really is. Meaning once you leave school where you were constantly around your peers your whole life, you realize this. The median age for example in the US is above 37 for men and just below 40 for women. So you graduating college and being surrounded by people much older than you is a common experience for people in your age group, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 03:58 PM
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Because all the major religions and cultures in the world believe in some form of fairness and justice that everything that happens, is as it should be. Karma, heaven and hell, all that. If you're a good person you earned it if you're a bad person you deserve bad things to happen to you. People don't want to admit that life isn't fair and is often random and due to chance more than just the result of our individual life choices. When you look at the reality that there is and for the foreseeable …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 03:39 PM
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Unless you have low testosterone you don't need juice to get a body women are attracted to. A lot of it also has to do with being lean to show your facial structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:06 PM
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I'm saying you're dead wrong, having a casual conversation with women is not the same as dating/hooking up. It might make you feel like you know something about dating and like you've still got it to chat up random women but unless you're bringing them to bed you don't know what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 11:07 PM
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In bigger friends groups nobody is close with everyone and someone hates someone else and there's always arguments and drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:06 PM
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His entrance to the circle in the first place was that he already had a woman. It's a known thing that society is more welcoming to partnered men, because partnered men expects less from society and contributes more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:04 PM
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Big social circles don't like having single dudes in them. Single girls are accepted though, and they mostly don't date dudes in their circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:01 PM
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Enough with the gaslighting. There's a lot of social double standards men face and we don't need more people trying to bury that fact with useless platitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 07:48 PM
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Overall, the younger generation is socially stunted, but younger women are more so. Young women are especially undisciplined, not hard working, unempathetic and full of disdain for others. But they are more easily accepted for their shortcomings by virtue of being young women. Young men have to prove themselves to be considered worthy of others time. In order for young men to be accepted, they have to go out of their way to be all the things most women are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 07:45 PM
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For every guy that is afraid to approach, there is more than enough guys "shooting their shot." and there's a big difference between a girl being open to conversation and actually being attracted to you and hooking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 07:36 PM
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You mean you want to be the person who is less invested in the relationship so that the power imbalance is in your favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:58 PM
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You mean you don't want men to treat you the way you treat them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:50 PM
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You mean you don't want to lose the upper hand that you have as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:23 PM
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Doing well in your 30s means you likely are in great shape and not broke. You're more established and have more time and the means to date more easily than when you were younger, unless you were a star athlete or trust fund baby. When you're in college you're competing with tons of high value dudes even though they tell you it's supposed to be the best time of your life for dating. Most guys in college still have to work on their physique, looks, style, and their career, they won't have as much …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:50 PM
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I'm seeing this too. The conversation around age gaps is just bitter girls shaming men for having the opportunity to explore options and make them settle down sooner. I get older but the age of girls interested in me is the same, however girls who have lots of debt and have to work to pay rent start becoming more interested in settling down, usually around the ages you mentioned. Girls who are more jaded and have less to offer are more "selective" because most men aren't financially suitable for…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:44 PM
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A lot of famous people get convicted and more often than not they actually did it. But there have been many famous cases of average Joe's who go to college and were falsely accused whose lives get ruined, and in real life I have seen many times where a guy is falsely accused and the excessive power the police state exerts over them all because a girl cried wolf (some of the girls even admit they lied about it, like a spiteful girl who was dumped by her boyfriend) and as a young guy I would have …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:19 PM
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Lots of injuries and deaths at my college happened from hazing. Some of the worst assholes I've seen in college were frat boys but it's funny because they still had girls coming to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 06:48 PM
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The negative reputation frats have doesn't change the fact that plenty of girls go for them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 06:46 PM
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He's fat with facial hair and thin hair. And I'm older than him and don't have lines the way he does in a photo when I raise my forehead the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 06:38 PM
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I slur = incel r word = rapists bc in this sub they are used to stigmatize men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 06:06 PM
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The average 45 year old white person does look like a 60 year old compared to other races tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 06:06 PM
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That guys an exremely bad example. He looks like a 40+ new dad. But that 22 year old looks 30+ and tons of white kids look like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:59 AM
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Dude you need to get off the internet and work on your self esteem and sexual guilt. Your post history reeks of why you're still a virgin and you badly need to heal
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:54 AM
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These days you have more coomers than the I slur and R word. If anything so many men are highly motivated to work hard because they have a high sex drive and no outlet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:52 AM
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I said this same thing in a much nicer way lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:50 AM
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A lot of guys talk about sex amongst one another, but a guy who would insult you for being a virgin is not your friend. Most conversations with guys are pretty easy going and in a lot of circles guys are even accepting of virgins. Girls might not judge you to your face, but things would be very different if you were trying to be romantically involved with them. Girls judge men's performance in the bedroom very harshly, and the reason girls are stereotyped as being gossipy more than men is becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:49 AM
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The other day there was a girl with a double digit body count under 25 saying women shouldn't be judged for their body counts in this sub.Her post history was crazy, talking about having bipolar and seeing posts ranging from her severe self esteem and fear of abandonment and then to erotica about her getting fucked by a tall bearded jacked younger guy she just met at a bar
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:39 AM
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He looks like he could be in his 40s, he's not a good example. On the other hand I've seen guys in their mid 30s who look younger than the 22 year old OP showed us
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:08 AM
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I see plenty of 22 year old white kids who already have forehead wrinkles and crows feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:07 AM
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How tall are you? If you're lifting the same weight, I would imagine you as a shorter guy would look more built than him. Just IME the guys who have the holy trifecta (height face and build, I guess hair too maybe) seem to have the best luck, if you're built and handsome I'm not sure why there'd be such a disparity between you two. I get picked over a lot of guys who are taller and more built than me (6'1+) but average looking in the face. Its pretty rare for really short (5'5) to do well with g…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 10:53 PM
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You know now that I think about it as an average height man I think it's mostly insecure 6'+ guys who comment on my height and with girls (even girls my height or slightly taller) it's never once been an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:20 AM
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If he's getting that much attention he's also probably pretty good looking/muscular otherwise, height alone is a plus but definitely isn't the full story.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:18 AM
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You know I want to say as someone under 6' that height isn't as big a deal as black pillers say it is, but I see so many people on the internet that know many mythical "chadlets", and frankly I have rarely met a guy who is very short and fairly successful with girls (emphasis on rarely) to the point its disingenuous to say that height isn't a fairly important factor in dating. Being tall is an advantage, being average sized is default, and being much shorter than average (in the west 5'6 and und…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:16 AM
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That's most women these days
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 08:23 PM
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This. If women want to screw around and rack up scores of partners that's fine, but they shouldn't wonder why marriage minded men who didn't rack up bodies would prefer a woman with more similar values and lifestyles.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 08:20 PM
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I don't think more men care about self improvement, I just think that the difference between those who do and those who don't are more extreme. Guys today are using steroids, hair regrowth medication, and doing more than ever because they have to compete. But overall more of the population is obese, fewer men can afford their own place or have a decent paying job, and now there's a growing group of guys who just refuse to participate in the system altogether. I have realized awhile ago and now i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 09:11 AM
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That's nearly 1 in 3 men, what would you call it if we hit 40% or 50% in the future?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 08:43 AM
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It's like I said, social circles are dying. You're more likely to meet a girl at some concert than from a friend of a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 08:33 PM
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Same to you, and get a grammar book.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 07:20 PM
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Where do such women exist. It feels like 90% of the time even when girls hookup they want to trap a guy in a relationship still
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 04:46 PM
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Cold approach works better than social circle in most cases, unless you're very well connected. Social circles are dying out these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 07:31 AM
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Whatever guy is with you is definitely not the winner
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 01:51 AM
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No I am agreeing with you! I am quoting someone above you who was saying that they met high earners at a bar and implied that means they are meeting high quality people. But as you pointed out, bars are full of alcoholics. and as I mentioned, a lot of high earners that are alcoholics are still alcoholics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 10:05 PM
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They said "I ’ve met tons of men and women who make 100k+ and are well adjusted people in these sorts of venues. " And I'm pointing out many high earners are functional alcoholics, doesn't make them a catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 09:10 PM
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Most men are not as sociopathic as women are
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 06:57 PM
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This is why they say not to listen to women for advice about women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 06:55 PM
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"Yall like I wanna be treated like a queen BITCH you better act like one" - Hopsin
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 06:44 PM
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Exactly. Most women with high body counts seem to be tinderellas who are severely mentally ill who just don't understand why they keep getting pumped and dumped but refuse to change the way they approach dating. The vast majority of the time extremely promiscuous behavior is tied to problematic personality traits and non sexual behavior. I know one obese, unpleasant, stupid, etc pretty much every negative trait in the book in one girl who racked up 25+ bodies in one year on Tinder letting all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 06:06 PM
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Dating apps are a scam. From my experience and others you are much more likely to meet girls in person even in 2023
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:14 PM
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My friend started doing a dance class. He said 8 out of 10 people are girls and half the guys are gay. He was talking to a girl near him and she gave him her number after class.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:13 PM
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Plenty of high earners are functional alcoholics, to counteract the above persons point
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:11 PM
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It's ironic because sometimes it feels like in recent years there is a greater obsession with virginity and prudishness is on the rise
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:10 PM
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People keep bringin up sexual dysfunction. What age is that happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 02:30 PM
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What age does the ED thing happen
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 02:27 PM
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Correction: women don't need to step up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 09:42 PM
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That sounds like some boomer pull yourself up by your bootstraps bunk. Just blindly ignoring reality and thinking you can do anything if you just put your mind to it. And then you go on and make exaggerated comparisons. Fact of the matter is most men are never gonna be charismatic or good looking enough (nor in a good location) to make meeting girls in public places viable. Other means like school or extended social circles would be. I have seen how easy it is for a vindictive girl to get her ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 09:29 PM
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Good for you. Nobody is saying it's impossible, but 1) the standards for a "cold approach" are definitely higher than meeting girls outside that. Like the OP mentioned, he's talking about average guys. 2) unless you're talking about shitty minimum wage jobs full of aimless druggie and alcoholics, most workplaces that require an investment in education and skills actively discourage it, and the stakes are higher. Meaning that they care more about "sexual harassment" and if a workplace relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 08:31 PM
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I didn't read OP but this isnt what I think most people mean when they say workplace romances are taboo. If you're working a shit restaurant or retail job it's common to hook up with coworkers. It's low stakes and nobody cares. But the kind of careers where people invest a lot of money and time into a college degree and spend years to get raises and promotions are very different, and this is what most people likely mean. Some job at a gym where I'm paid $16 an hour? Sure. A job as a lawyer makin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 08:20 PM
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I made a comment before but men in their 20s are like women in their 40s in terms of desirability - it's the age where they struggle the most to get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:33 PM
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Seeing women act exactly the way the redpill describes them before even knowing redpill is what redpilled me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:28 PM
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I mean most girls eventually learn men are horny, but somehow don't want to recognize that the way they are dressing is literally provocative.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:26 PM
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This is depressing. I have a couple of friends like this and wonder if they are doomed to being a virgin forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:22 PM
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A girl that thinks that has to be truly ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:19 PM
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Maybe you should... Touch grass like everyone tells men here to do.. And actually approach guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:17 PM
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Girls would take a downright ugly overweight 6'2 guy over a good looking under 5'5 guy the vast majority of the time. The difference between 6'2 and say 5'9 isn't really that dramatic so that might be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:15 PM
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Average is mediocre. Most guys failing at dating is the average, not the exception. All those TV sitcoms where completely average dudes are hooking up with a new model every episode is just fiction. There is a big difference between the guys who don't even try, who are short and ugly and just play video games and watch porn all day and never leave their room, and guys who go out and are ambitious and actively trying to meet people, and people who go out and are actually successful in meeting peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:13 PM
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I think it would have been more accurate to say that most people are not very unique looking and have typical features for their ethnicity. For example most Chinese men are going to have relatively the same eyes, nose, skin tone, proportions etc as the vast majority of other Chinese men and only so many like Yao Ming will have standout characteristics like his huge frame while the rest of them blend into a crowd. Same thing for White women, black men, etc. Even more broadly, someone withing your…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:57 PM
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This is spot on. A failed relationship has every much to do with the other person and not just you. Some people are bad partners no matter who they are with, if you end up with one then it doesn't matter what you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:49 PM
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It's not so much that the majority of men will never reproduce or have the opportunity to reproduce at all, but that in order to do so for most men that means entering relationships where they are treated poorly or with women who feel like they are settling for them and end up miserable anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:46 PM
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Body language and a look on your face that looks like you will kill the next person who comes near you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 10:52 AM
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You realize you just gave a justification for OPs point
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 06:13 AM
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You're probably like most women at clubs, unapproachable and unfriendly
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 05:51 AM
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If you didn't fuck those guys shorter than you everything you said is bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 02:14 AM
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How can you be a 6'3 virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 02:13 AM
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The vast majority of "ladies men" I have known are 6'2 or taller. Few under 5'9 and only one really short one around 5'5 or shorter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 02:12 AM
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Not just short, but average height guys. The vast majority of men are 5'7-5'11, actual 6' guys or taller are actually a small percentage of men. When I see most younger couples the vast majority of the time the guy is at least 6'2 if not much taller. Regardless of race this is only 1-10% of men. In a richer area this is likely much higher, I can only guess but it seems more like 25%-33%. IRL most guys I see struggle are below 5'10 and I myself around 5'9 get a lot of attention because I am facia…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 02:05 AM
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It's crazy how much girls worship height. I see fat ugly 6'2 dudes that do better than 5'7 thin decent looking dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 01:56 AM
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You misunderstood. I don't actively go out of my way to only date younger, but it usually ends up happening that more younger girls are interested in me than girls around 25+, since they are looking for much more serious relationships or marriage and I am just not there yet. A lot of older 40+ women are interested too who are past that stage in life but I'm generally not interested. I don't necessarily like the idea of being with a girl that has a long history and being the last guy who gets to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 01:41 AM
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I can't speak to the other guys, but Will Smith is one of the wealthiest, most successful actors of all time who had dozens of lead roles type casted as a macho stud with the peak of his career lasting at least 15+ years. He had apparently really gotten around during those years and apparently was an actual sex addict, so I am sure that promiscuity is something that he wouldnt mind in his partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 11:53 AM
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Tldr it negatively affected things between us. Most guys who are ready to settle down young either slept around a lot already or they are religious. The most common issue I always hear between couples and from others talking about dating is that girls always want more from the relationship and want to take things further while guys are not ready. The reason for this is that girls start getting attention much sooner and have experience much younger. I would say that the average difference is easi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 11:39 AM
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1) engineering is much more mentally and time consuming - it takes up a lot of energy outside of core work hours. In construction work stays at work. Same goes for engineering college curriculums generally being the most demanding. 2) a lot of engineers are abnormally short, ugly, poorly groomed, etc. It isn't surprising that I knew a guy who was living at home in his late 20s, was a 5'4 pudgy Asian guy who couldn't even be damned to shave his chin pubes, and was still a virgin. If he shaved, wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 11:00 AM
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I think most people are miserable in general. Haven't seen a non miserable spinster, but being married and having kids wouldn't make them a happy and pleasant person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 08:19 PM
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Definitely a lot of average dudes who won't settle for average chicks and only want hot ones. It's fine to have standards but in this environment beggars can't be choosers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 08:17 PM
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That's your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 10:56 AM
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my dad also tells me every now and then to find a girl in Poland Might still be viable today, but I don't know a lot enough about Poland to say
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 08:54 AM
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Female confirmed
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 03:22 AM
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The first girl I was with expected me to have 4-5 already
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 03:21 AM
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This why they say not to tell women you're inexperienced. Women generally get around a lot more than men, by mid 20s most decent looking girls have double digit body counts if they aren't married yet. Meanwhile most guys don't have that much experience. The first girl I was with was younger than me but more experienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 03:16 AM
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Attractive women do approach believe it or not
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 09:31 PM
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What OP is saying tons of guys with gfs it will be obvious they are together but on the gfs page it is not obvious because she hides him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 05:48 PM
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It definitely isn't. LinkedIn isn't very useful beyond applying for jobs, and even then it's dogshit for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 05:46 PM
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Your comment made it click in my head why it's so hard to date as a man. Women have way more options and control in their dating lives no matter who they are or where they are, while men do not have a lot of universal or general advice that broadly applies to them. Think of older men who have been with a lot of women versus the ones who have been with the same woman forever. The first man might be able to help you meet women and sleep with them, but not how to keep a relationship with one for li…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 05:38 PM
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One of my older relatives thinks that online dating is like ordering stuff from Amazon and that it would be easy to line up dates and pull girls from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 05:15 PM
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There are more than 2 options, no need to jump the gun there. Women have an unprecedented level of freedom, privilege, and entitlement today to walk outside naked and talk down on men publicly and receive praise for it. Anything less than that is now "sexual slavery" apparently. Society once had checks and balances for men and women that placed certain expectations and societal norms for them to follow. Men wouldn't go around the way they do pumping and dumping and abandoning their kids now, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:09 PM
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I think that everyone would ideally want to be partnered up. People who stay single have mostly just given up. This seems clear to me from seeing older people who are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:56 PM
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This is a very individualistic western mentality. You wouldn't exist if women before you thought this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 02:23 PM
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It's a mental issue. Most women are like kids in a Candy store with infinite options. But they are so picky that they can't decide on just one option, or want to try all the options and get a toothache. Women generally have a ton of suitors, women who are always single are either way older women who aged out of their options and let the candy store run low on stock or they're just women who are never satisfied with what they can get and so "never settle", or whatever excuse they have to disguise…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 02:18 PM
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they are competing with the single life, which for women is often pretty good. I don't think I've met more miserable women than ones who are permanently single. For most women, at least while young, being single means still having the option to enter a relationship or hookup whenever they want, and they will still get constant attention from men to keep them from feeling lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 11:57 AM
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A man with the same mentality would be called a manchild, but all women are children so there's not equivalent for womanchild.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 11:46 AM
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A growing group of men who feel angry at the fact that they aren't getting their fair shake is never good for society Women's main role is to birth and raise children. Men's main role is to take care of them and endure hardship on their behalf. Now we have a society focused on enriching a small exclusive club of people where most men are still expected to take care of everyone else but they get no reward for it, and many are opting out of participating instead of being exploited.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 11:44 AM
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Women don’t care. We’ve had to sacrifice sexually for all of human history by being with men we don’t find attractive. You had one job Let the birth rate go down. Let lazy and entitled white people fall off the face of the Earth and make more room for brown people
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 11:41 AM
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An average woman is not a queen, but thinks she deserves to be treated like one. Since the average man is not prince charming she refuses to take what she can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 11:39 AM
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There are some genuinely spiteful dudes out there, but it pales in comparison to the misandry that has been normalized in mainstream discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 08:15 PM
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It's just one example. And big is relative, if you have a baseball bat in your pants it might be obvious. But is 7 inches really enough to punch her cervix and make her scream? These types of things would be especially confusing for a younger dude who has heard even from Hollywood movies about coke bottle dicks and 8 inches+.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 08:06 PM
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The problem with white lies is that I feel like women do it so much that you begin to question what she really thinks about you. If she does it very frequently then it feels like you are just being settled for. And whether or not she even likes you. For example, if a girl has smaller boobs than my ideal, I know that won't make me like or enjoy her body any less, but I know I wouldn't communicate that or make comments on her body. But if a girl tells my I have a big dick, I don't know whether she…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 05:05 PM
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My first and second boyfriends had dicks thicker than my wrist, and one was exceptionally huge and perfectly shaped. This is always hard to imagine but then I remember that women have considerably smaller wrists than men Boyfriends 3 and 4 insisted that I must be a virgin for reasons, until each discovered how tall and huge my first two boyfriends were. (Well over six feet) I don’t miss any of them and resent the hell out of their insecurity. Insecure in what way? That you had bigger boyfriends?…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:54 PM
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In small cities people pair off young. Extra guys that aren't already hitched or in a relationship are SOL because theres no girls to meet. At least in slightly bigger cities where people are more open to meeting strangers these guys have a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 08:34 AM
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Major cities and probably the areas adjacent, not just directly in those cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 08:21 AM
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Tempe is not a small city. It's more like medium. And I know a guy who went to ASU who only hooked up with one ethnic chick 5'2 and 220+ lbs
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 08:11 AM
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Living in a small city is really not great as a guy either. It seems like mid to slightly larger cities are better, but I haven't lived in an extremely big city so it's hard to say. It seems that no matter what women have options regardless of city size from my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 08:04 AM
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Men's looks definitely peak later (developing muscle mass, growing more facial and body hair) and are easier to maintain longer. Women's looks decline sooner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 09:26 PM
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Girls have more experience with the opposite sex at the same age. Girls date guys their age and older and don't generally like going younger. Even if not a 10 year or even just 5 year gap, the vast majority of girls are open to 2-3 years older. When guys are about 18-20 this means a lot of guys are left with fewer options. In high school younger girls were interested in me, but I was 18 and they were 14 so that wouldn't have worked out for obvious reasons. But in college when I was a junior and …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 09:23 PM
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It's funny how subtle their signals are. I was sitting next to my friend on a train where a girl across from me was eye fucking me hard and moving closer to me. I mentioned it to my friend and he didn't even notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 10:19 PM
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Very few women are as blunt as the ones OP mentioned, even if they're attracted to you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 10:16 PM
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Reddit is a widely popular site, unfortunately a non significant proportion of women irl are female redditors. But I agree not to take what they say here seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 10:10 PM
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Are you really a 38 year old virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 09:25 PM
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Today at least we now have tons of content pushing back against the misandry of the 2010s, but today the misandry has really gone full force
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 08:13 AM
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There's nowhere in the US I don't see asian women with white boyfriends everywhere, except in Hawaii.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 08:12 AM
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I think that didn't have to do with the overall dating culture so much and more that Asian Americans as a whole hadn't been as accepted. Now they have more generational wealth and things like anime, kpop, even bollywood has made Americans fascinated with Eastern cultures and at least more young people are open to it. Its sad when I think of older Asian men's experience compared to now it was definitely a lot worse, my friends dad who is in his 60s and still ripped struggled dating in his youth a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 07:51 AM
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They can't complain irl
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:30 PM
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Women are manipulative no matter what part of the world they are from. That's just in womens nature. At least a non American woman has upsides too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:28 PM
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Some people deserve the receiving end of my toxicity. Some people don't. So yes and yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 05:30 PM
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That's what I mean. It's dog eat dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 05:29 PM
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This was just one group of people. He had plenty of other friends besides that group, too. They are pushovers, but you don't need to feel bad for everyone. Some were decent dudes whose kindness was taken for granted, others were enablers - they wouldn't call out his bad behavior because they like him, but would have no problem calling me out for minor details, as an example, as they didn't care about me personally like they did for him. They would never call him out for anything problematic that…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 11:28 AM
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There's a reason there's a stereotype of napoleon complex. Small guys have to avoid getting trampled on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 09:49 AM
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He's ugly af, but JBW I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 09:48 AM
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This is why I didn't bother to answer. You're only interested in having a one way conversation and being "right". You haven't even given a counterargument or definition of masculinity yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:54 AM
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You asked for the difference between the two, not the definition. It's been talked about to death especially in this sub, but a man who is masculine is in control of his emotions, is a leader, competent, looks manly and not feminine, and serves as a good role model and benefactor to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:40 AM
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This guy is a real version of the wojack meme
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:37 AM
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The difference between masculinity and toxic masculinity today is that - Everybody today expects men to be masculine, men and especially women alike. But toxic masculinity is shaming language used to diminish the reward that men get for being masculine so that both men who are not masculine enough stay in their lane and that men who are masculine fulfill their expected roles without expecting anything in return (so that others can take advantage of them).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:30 AM
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Are people supposed to know who those people are? They are talked a lot about on reddit. You can do a quick google search too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:04 AM
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If you're "toxic masculine" and you look like Kyle Rittenhouse women won't go for you. If you're west elm Caleb it won't matter how much damage you do
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:02 AM
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Being toxic isn't binary. Pretty much everyone has toxic traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 01:55 AM
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You can definitely see the effects of this on each generation of women becoming lower and lower quality
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 01:49 AM
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Most "milfs" in porn are still 35 or younger. And absolutely do not look like the average woman their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 08:27 AM
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Inherited wealth goes much further, and most people studying stem do it because it can make their kids rich some day. True upper middle class is generations of wealth that have accumulated and appreciated, which most stem lords do not have, especially because most of those fields are not as mature. I know families who are upper middle class who inherited plantation money, and of course they justify why they deserve their wealth. None of those people study stem, they just study whatever they want…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 08:25 AM
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It's really a matter of luck, but more often than not clubs/bars are packed with dudes. Once in awhile when the stars align there might suddenly be a decent ratio of girls in a venue but ive gone out enough to say most places you go anywhere in the west young single guys significantly outnumber women and you're likely to be surrounded by them on a night out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 07:09 AM
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Middle class but not truly upper middle class. The old money 6'2 born with a silver spoon in their mouth good old boy types will go into finance, law, etc. Stem is mostly immigrants and their kids who were educated and middle class from where they came from but not wealthy by American standards who make most of their wealth by working. Guys who are extremely short, unathletic, autistic, antisocial, poorly groomed etc tend to go into stem and similarly for most of the girls too tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 07:03 AM
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Above average in intelligence yes, above average in other ways, not necessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 05:42 AM
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There are more men than women in the world under age 50, when all the men prematurely dying evens the ratio out
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 05:25 AM
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Blue collar work, physical labor in retail jobs, many many many fields are male dominated.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 05:24 AM
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It's not dating apps, it's social media and texting. Women don't even need dating apps most of the time to find people
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 03:38 AM
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That's everywhere. Women get into more exclusive house parties and most men are excluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 03:36 AM
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Right but it's another explanation for what a lot of people here claim, which aligns to my own experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 09:15 AM
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Is that the largest word in your vocabulary?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 09:07 AM
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It's weird that what TRP preaches is very consistent with my life experience. You see people matched with their own "SMV," or people with similar value. 20s girls with 30s guys (when men and women are at their highest value) and 20s guys with 40s women (when men and women are at their lowest value). I've known plenty of college girls dating or sleeping with guys in their mid to late 30s, and definitely many that are in their late teens with guys 5+ years older. The age gaps between younger men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 09:05 AM
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I’ve never met a guy that has multiple women all thinking they are in a committed relationship though which is what people are implying when citing this study. Sometimes the guy himself isn't pretending to be in a relationship. The girl assumes that they are in a relationship because they're sleeping together.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 08:53 AM
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Hes extremely fit. Something everyone can do, but youre all just too lazy to do it. Goes back to my self improvement argument. Most people will never get extremely fit. As someone with visibly vascular arms and a prominent V taper that shows in clothes and who has gone to several gyms on and off for years now most people will never stay consistent long enough nor have the genetics for it without steroids to ever get an impressive physique.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 08:44 AM
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The question you're not asking is what do the girls look like.... but OP said below that his friend is jacked, and also 5'7" isn't that short either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 08:37 AM
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If you can't figure out how to not be poor and unhealthy and ugly Can't tell if you're playing along or serious anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 08:08 AM
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Height isn't even the best example of sexual dimorphism. A muscular big boned 5'7 man with thick facial hair and big hands absolutely is more sexually dimorphic than a 6'2 fine boned smooth faced man with small hands. Not to mention penis size isn't always correlated to height.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 08:12 PM
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Not people, just women. It's amazing how frequently I've seen men empathize with womens struggles, but never in my life have I seen women have any sympathy for men's struggles or even recognize they exist. And on top of this most women demonize men for complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 08:07 PM
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I can think of two guys off the top of my head, both have very active social lives. The one who is more extroverted and confident hasn't had a gf in years but the other guy, who is very shy with girls, has been with a bunch of girls from the same friend group. The first guy is a <5'5" Asian dude and the second one is a 6'3" white dude. The guy calling you delusional is disingenuous
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 07:47 PM
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You're right bro just pull yourself up by your bootstraps bro you can be a millionaire if you just stop drinking $10 Starbucks
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 07:45 PM
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This is wrong. I've known obese women who have no problems dating. Age seems to be a bigger factor against women tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:22 AM
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Seeing your comments it's not surprising
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 10:51 AM
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I wish the taken girls would ditch girls nights. It's annoying to approach a group of girls and half of them have boyfriends. Younger girls this Gen blur the line on boundaries way more than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 10:50 AM
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More effort than you put in.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 02:32 AM
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That's just not true. The majority of people let themselves go
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 09:37 PM
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Don't see that either, but I do see black dudes trying to sell random stuff like shoe polish
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 09:08 PM
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1) often the unkempt messy couple looked better when they were younger and got together. Now they're gross and not attracted to each other 2) being in a marriage or relationship like the average person is not a desirable outcome
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 09:05 PM
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That's blue pill af
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 09:03 PM
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I don't see this at my mall ever.,
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 08:00 PM
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I hate seeing responses to well thought out comments that boil down to "yeah, but no." Overall, the vast majority of people these days NEVER leave with someone they didn't come with, and only a small % of people leave with someone they just met.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 05:00 PM
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Because dudes outnumber girls in nightclubs by a wide margin.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 04:54 PM
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You making baseless assumptions as a response to my comment
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 04:08 PM
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It's weird that you wanna see it that way, all I am pointing out is that it is weird that someone's nsfw account decided to make a post about how they have deep childhood sexual trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:34 PM
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Quite interesting to see a post talking about sexual harassment and then seeing topless selfies and rape fantasies on their profile
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 08:35 AM
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$70k and destroying my legs to be 6 feet tall. When you put it that way it actually sounds less crazy tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 04:12 PM
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Schrodingers chadlet
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 04:09 PM
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The US is the only place where non religious circumcision is the norm. The kind of doctors that perform circumcisions are generalists, which are very well represented with women in the US. Any part of the world that performed female circumcision is getting rid of the practice and rightfully calls it genital mutilation, but men do not get the same benefit of the doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:43 AM
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That's horrible that it was pushed on your son that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:43 AM
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You mean doctors who could be either male or female? And don't make me laugh, as if there aren't more male advocates decrying male circumcision than female.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:01 AM
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Now you are insulting me 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:07 AM
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You just insulted guys in stem and I told you women in stem are just as lame. OK then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:45 AM
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Stem women are just as lame as stem guys but don't think they are because of the 10 to 1 ratio
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:24 AM
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This explains everything about you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:57 AM
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Old boys club = older white guys gatekeeping. Everyone in the corporate sector naturally sticks to their own and this is an unspoken rule, except when women do it we're supposed to be OK with that and let them trample over us while telling us they are oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:39 AM
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Not at all. See tons of (white) girl bosses who band together and demand hand outs I mean recognition for existing I mean their hard work
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:26 AM
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90% of my teachers were Karen's. It's not surprising that Karen is the #1 student today.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:22 AM
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You beat me to the punch. She's delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:19 AM
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Who pierces baby girls ears? Their moms. And this is pretty insignificant compared to circumcision of baby boys. Most of your other arguments are bunk too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:18 AM
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Florida is a bit different, especially Miami
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:06 AM
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Sex work is worse than regular work. You are giving up your body for something made up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:59 AM
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Yep, it's actually closer to a 1.5% difference in the US in the 18-39 demographic, which means 1.4 million more men than women. Also consider that the percentages are more skewed towards men in younger ages and women usually date the same age or older and it isn't until I believe 45-50 where women start to have an even ratio and the trend reverses. Also consider that gender ratios are even more skewed based on geography, for example the further west you go in the US the more male it is skewed. F…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:23 AM
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A relatively above average for an older woman is still less attractive than a relatively below average younger woman. Older women are thirsty for a reason, only a small percentage of older women are attractive, especially white women who don't get cosmetic work done.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 08:21 PM
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Because you are obese
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 08:17 PM
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The west doesn't deplore them at all, there's just more competition for lower quality and quantity rewards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 05:47 PM
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Wouldn't be surprised to see something similar in the world. Don't know for certain.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 05:10 PM
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You're wrong. Less than half of the US population work full time and women often work fewer hours at lower paying lower stress jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 12:14 AM
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Some men would take the hug but some men would try for more lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:24 PM
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My experience is that it takes a pretty long time for her to get off from penetration, if she's on top it's much easier. I don't know if overstimulation from sex toys makes it harder but I would imagine if most guys don't have the quick refractory period and stamina like I do then it would be hard for women to meet guys that can last long enough to satisfy them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:20 PM
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It's honestly shocking to me how many guys I've known in their 20s with ED issues. I think that's the most insidious part about porn and masturbating. Porn is an artificial stimulus that makes guys excited play with themselves an unnatural amount and that affects their ability to have actual healthy sex lives outside of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:09 PM
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Men have less and less to gain from approaching and the idea of having to "win" over a woman is not appealing when there's hardly a prize worth finding.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 05:16 AM
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The wall is pretty real. From talking to older women (40s,50s) who are not former models, it's not easy to date at that age. I think older women and younger men getting together is becoming more common, but it seems to me it's really more because those groups have similar "smv" so to speak. Girls in their 20s are very frequently with guys 5 to 10 years older (you usually can't tell just by looking) and visible age gaps with older men are definitely still more common than visible age gaps with ol…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 08:21 AM
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In some countries, 13 year olds are doing calculus, working full time, picking up groceries, driving cars and motorcycles. In the US, many adults in their 20s are called kids, can't cook, can't clean, can't do dishes or laundry, don't work full time etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 07:54 AM
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Many of the women here are of the two x and FDS variety
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 07:43 AM
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That's funny because more cute straight girls are at gay clubs than regular ones
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 09:37 PM
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What clubs have less than a 12 to 1 male to female ratio
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 09:22 PM
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I hate seeing virtue signaling comments like this because in real life that isn't the way you see girls choosing their partners. You mean to tell me you are the one special true unicorn snowflake fairytale princess that isn't like all the others?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 09:19 PM
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Men ages 18 to 39 outnumber women of the same age by 1.4 million. Everything you say is wrong, there's more than enough brainwashed men on a wild goose chase going to the gym and trying to become a millionaire for every "soft" man who jerks off to lesbian scissor porn in their moms basement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 09:08 PM
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the vast majority of college students in the states today are commuters.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 09:02 PM
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Who says they deserve to have their standards met? Nobody ever asks this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 08:57 PM
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Never been to Australia but I'm not surprised she's from LA. Guys are that way because the male competition is really stiff. Drinks are also way more expensive in the states, the equivalent of 25-30 AUD or more.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 08:51 PM
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You don't get the point? If all you wanna do is sit at home and play video games while getting high and eating chili cheese fries all day then that lifestyle is always there for you. There's only so much time to achieve goals like training for a competitive sport, becoming a millionaire, getting a ripped gym body, etc until you are too old and it's too late to reasonably start. Forget that second best time to plant a tree nonsense. If you want to go to a top tier university or sleep with models …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 10:16 AM
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This is like a 10 year old sentiment from NoFap, it's not an original thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 10:10 AM
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It's better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 09:56 AM
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"sex work is work." It's exploitation, pure and simple. And it's especially galling when progressives are super skeptical about modern employment but do a 180 when the job involves sex. lefties: A corporate job is oppression, but it's empowering when women go into six figure college debt for low paying corporate jobs to serve her boss rather than get married and serve her husband, but it's also oppressing how women don't get paid enough so they are forced to go empower themselves with sex work t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:29 PM
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What is more disheartening is seeing those people at the finish line and and they don't seem happy or satisfied at the end of the race.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:26 PM
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He is saying that life is too short not to explore everything it has to offer and to live an easy and simple life is a waste of the gift of living.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:25 PM
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You forgot Investment banking. Fields like accounting and tech have less in common than OP thinks with crypto scams and NBA contracts than high finance. High finance has a much higher ceiling than other fields, but is much more excusive due to gatekeeping, getting in is much more about luck and fitting in to a small subset than the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:24 PM
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Exactly. $180k in your 20s makes you a 1% earner but it doesn't make your life like a rockstar. Like I said above, you can't buy the time and carefree attitude someone who has never had to work for their money has even if they aren't billionaires or high earners themselves. The amount of time and energy it sucks out of you working full time in high earning fields and advanced education actually hurts with girls if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:20 PM
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OP doesn't realize that most salaried workers, even those making $100k-$500k aren't some kind of mystical unicorn. They are a small proportion of people, but a lot of us aren't living lives that are drastically different from the average joe. It takes inherited/generational wealth for that. It's very different when you have to work fulltime and build your own wealth from the ground up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:16 PM
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The reason the Hank Hills of the world can be happily mediocre is because they are vestiges of a bygone time when being mediocre actually earned you a respectable life. It's a much more precarious situation now. The reason most men that are attracted to the manosphere are so angry is probably because they weren't asking for much in the first place -- A decent, livable income, a nice normal family, an average partner that loves and respects them -- only to find that even those modest expectations…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 07:54 PM
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My question has nothing to do with libido, sex drive, or how difficult it might be to make that fantasy into a reality Why are you narrowing the scope of the conversation? It seems like women here like to do this to maintain the narrative that they want to believe in and not stray too far from that. I'm telling you that your perspective on male sexuality is inherently limited because you and other women drastically underestimate the influence of our sex drives on our thought processes. If you co…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 07:50 PM
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Your comment makes me wonder if you have a sister LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 05:05 PM
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Are you a woman? I don't think you understand how powerful the male sex drive is on average. I had no interest in girls at all until puberty, can you imagine what kind of influence on brain chemistry that is? If my testosterone levels remained at what I had as a child, I could easily go my whole life without interacting with a woman because I would never think about them. Now imagine going from that to constantly think about woman because of a hormone. And don't act like an MMF threesome is comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 04:42 PM
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Everyone wants something from someone if they have something of value. Men are disposable and have no value by default, but once you have a lot of money or girls suddenly a lot of people are interested in you (your time and your money). Women are valued inherently for their bodies, they have tits and ass and pussy that men want even if they have nothing else to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:48 AM
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The US is full of unhinged people, I absolutely believe it can happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:37 AM
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In the US people don't do this. In countries like Mexico, India they would. But people in the US are antisocial and selfish. At most the bouncers would step in but for the most part nobody would do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:34 AM
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The average man is below average according to you. There is a wide gap between have and have not. What an average man's dating life looks like is having a long term relationship every once in awhile interspersed with dry spells in between that can be measured in years.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 11:41 PM
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I am 100% sure you underrate those guys and if you objectively described them or shared pics they aren't actually 4/10 unless they're banging obese women, single moms and old ladies
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 11:39 PM
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Why do you stay then
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 12:24 PM
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As a married woman I feel bad for your partner
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 10:29 AM
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Most women in those classes are out of shape. Live laugh love types. Starving themselves and drinking on the weekend types.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:41 PM
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There are more men under age 50 than women. You're looking at survivorship bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:37 PM
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So basically starving themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:24 PM
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Maybe you don't live in one of the sausage fest metros (the further west from NY you go the more men there are) but this is absolutely not the case from what I've seen. Most men who are jacked are usually with women who are less physically impressive. The ones who are with bigger women are definitely more desperate than anything and usually chubby chasers are not necessarily gravitating (ha) towards the 300+ lb massive women I've seen some jacked guys with. A lot of muscular men are deeply insec…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:23 PM
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It's a huge difference when talking about 100 million+ people. And I'm also curious as to where and how those percentages were figured out, as seeing women who are actually in shape (and not just thin from starving themselves) is far less common than seeing men who are in shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:04 PM
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we started hooking up before dating since I didn't want to be in a relationship at the time. As I got to know her I really liked her more and then we started dating. Knowing that if I had decided not to date her, stay "single" and keep hooking up with her and receiving girlfriend benefits while being allowed to bring other girls in bed with us, what would you think most guys in my position would have thought? Compared to being exclusive and not being able to sleep with other girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:00 PM
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There is a distinction between overweight, obese and severely obese. Men who are very muscular and have maxed out their potential would be considered overweight even though they are fit, and obesity and especially severe obesity is more common in women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:30 PM
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Not at all. Ive seen so, so many absolute units of men with skinny fat and obese land whales of women and rarely the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:24 PM
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More men are in shape than women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:22 PM
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That was the deepest comment you've ever made
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:22 PM
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We already heard this "teach men not to rape!" crap, It doesn't work. If that's the case then really we need to hold women to higher standards and teach them to choose better, because nobody does that anymore. The prime example I can think of are those guys who sleep around a lot and catch sexual assault cases in college, but continue sleeping around because they are really good looking. Ive literally known girls who have ignored those facts and slept with those guys because they explicitly ment…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:19 PM
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I'll never understand the thought process - a girl I dated once said that she would only have a threesome with me if we were not in a serious relationship. Ironically she had very few boundaries in bed and that was pretty much the only one. Most girls seem to think like this and they don't realize that this type of behavior is off putting for people like me who would otherwise have been fine being in a relationship to realize that they get more from a girl if they avoid being boyfriend material.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 03:26 PM
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Men significantly outnumber women in the prime dating ages. There are not enough women for men. The median woman is approaching menopause, fat, has lots of debt, and children. Being a young, single, fit, childless, debt free man means your equivalent in a woman is less than 5% of the population if not much less, and there are many more men who fit that description. That's why any decent looking (but not model level or anything special) , young, thin girl can literally be fwb/one night stands/gro…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 03:22 PM
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Women are spoiled for options. When the median woman is 2.2 years older than men (roughly 40), fat, and has kids, saddled with debt and are outnumbered by men significantly in the prime dating ages, men just don't have the options. If you are a fit single childless man in their 20s in the US, your equivalent is less than 5% of the population, if not much smaller. This is before filtering for mental issues, character, and other important qualities in a woman. Compared to countries where the major…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 03:11 PM
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The odds are heavily stacked against men, it doesn't matter what they do. They either play by unfair rules or not at all, because there are literally more prime dating age men than women in the country (and the world) You can't expect men with different cultural and religious expectations to adhere to the same strategy and have a mass boycott of the low quality women available especially because of how powerful men's sexual urges are - there is always a hotter and hornier guy than you willing to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:59 PM
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Reasons I don't like to pay 1) I feel like I am paying for a cheap, trashy, prostitute to spend their time with me 2) I don't feel genuine interest if I have to pay. A lot of women won't, and that specific girl you are with probably got with another guy with less hassle, meaning if I have to wine and dine her she doesn't like me as much. 3) There's no guarantee of anything just because of paying for a date, and I don't think there should be. 4) If you go on a lot of first or second dates and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 08:18 PM
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All of these women are completely normal looking and would not struggle to find a partner based on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 05:07 PM
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From a guys perspective a woman who is too aloof or "playing hard to get" comes off as disinterested. Ultimately the relationship going nowhere is time wasted. Women focus a lot on vetting men and it's the same way the justice system treats criminals. Guilty until proven innocent, but once the man has overcome the burden of proving his innocence the damage is still done. You're free to dissect and scrutinize men for as long as you want, and I'm sorry if it seems harsh but there's only so long th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 12:58 AM
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I must be doing a really terrible job at explaining my position. That can't be true because there are other people in here who understood it just fine. I understood you just fine, and many people in here disagree with you besides me. You are convinced I have disdain for most men. I disagree but that isn't even related to the point I'm originally trying to discuss. It's clear from the way you talk you are a know-it-all who looks down on most people particularly men. It's not reasonable to continu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 12:40 AM
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In this sub having bare minimum knowledge and understanding of groups like FDS, TRP, etc should be required. That's why so many threads where people have the same circular arguments that end in stalemates where nobody is willing to concede keep happening. The whole point of this sub is to discuss the topics that those groups focus on, it's like having a religious studies group who have no knowledge about Christians, Muslims and jews but want to feud endlessly about their differences. You make th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 01:25 AM
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I'm still mostly of the opinion that looks are the most important part of the equation, but I will say that having low self esteem and no confidence/social calibration can also really hurt. Being ugly I still had high self esteem and had basic social skills and I've seen friends after high school who have physically grown up but are very awkward and unconfident and still do poorly with women. So to some extent I can see what you are saying, if you don't drop the "ugly" mindset you had before you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 01:06 AM
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Girls will mostly end up dating a guys that they don't like very much or aren't very attracted to. For most guy being extremely persistent and taking "no" to mean "not right now" or "not yet" is necessary to eventually get a "yes" because most guys are unlikely to end up running into a girl that is highly interested from the start and inclined to say yes right away. Many if not the majority of relationships, especially the ones you might see where the guy is average I know the girl initially sai…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:58 PM
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This isn't a nuanced take at all, this is literally what every FDSer believes, which is that every man needs to be heavily scrutinized to make sure that they're a "born winner" and not "self-made" and not to give men any slack or sympathy. And assumes that women themselves don't need to be scrutinized the same way :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:52 PM
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I was illustrating my experience. It seems a bit premature that you are drawing your conclusions on the impact of dating based on being fat before early high school. Most of my experience is during and after puberty. Your mental model of a socially well adapted person is someone who is genuine and kind, but my experience is that it's more about being able to fake the perception of being kind and willing to manipulate people that ends up in the best "results" - those types of people have the most…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:08 PM
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I'm not saying this isn't the case for dancing but most of the kinds of classes and established groups that are open to newcomers would mostly have dudes, or at least this wouldn't be surprising to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 01:09 AM
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You said it, women only get interested in hobbies because of a strong male presence in their life for the most part. Some hobbies might be naturally more appealing to women, but strong feminine figures to introduce the next generation to them have been declining for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 01:03 AM
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First point I can illustrate with my own experience: A lot of guys have awful body composition and because of reasons whether it be lack of motivation or something else, not everyone can or will have a fit/ripped/jacked physique in their lifetime. When I was young I was skinny fat. I was always considered smart, confident, charismatic, etc. Most of my life I got very little attention from girls, and it wasn't until I fixed my body composition that radically changed. I'm not a blackpiller, but di…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:59 AM
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I've worked full time for a long time and I make time. So does everyone else that I know that works full time. The people that don't make time are alone, single, and with no friends. Meal prep dinner, errands are for lunch/Sunday morning, go to bed on time every day, don't rely on coffee. I usually go to a class on Tuesdays (dance/yoga), work out 5 days a week and see friends Wed/Sat. My partner works 50-60 hour weeks, goes to boxing twice a week and sees friends on weekends. So many people work…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:12 AM
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You left out the money part. That is always the key factor when I see such age gap couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:16 AM
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Is a fat ugly slob on the cover of GQ? How about your body spray? The guy on the underwear ad? Your favorite tv show? Ink on paper and pixels on a screen. It's insane to reasonably suggest that people should base their worldview on fiction rather than the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:15 AM
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This is a requirement I have since I’ve seen a lot of men grow resentful or feel they aren’t masculine enough when their wives make more money than them. I have never heard of this in my life. Plenty of guys would love for a woman to take care of them, but woman hate doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:12 AM
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It's ironic that in places where it might be applicable, women dgaf. Women who are privileged and watch too much true crime documentaries are the ones who claim this, but this isn't the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:11 AM
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This is called a false equivalence
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:55 AM
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This is honestly a cop out. The real reason is that women get it easily and don't value it. Most men don't get much of it so they welcome it more. Most of the time them being disgusted with an approach is literally just how attracted they are to the guy. Them being receptive means they are attracted to the guy, them not being receptive is usually that the guy wasn't attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:54 AM
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Where do you live? Location is important
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:49 AM
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This sounds like everywhere, with the only difference being the ratio might be more favorable in some places. Even when the ratios are really favorable, hot or decent quality girls are still rarely ever single and most of the meh girls are the ones that are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:49 AM
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One of my friends is in his 40s and manages to go out with 20s single women from his salsa dancing classes. And keep in mind he’s bald and overweight. I've heard this narrative online that men in their 20s are failing so hard at dating that it's cake for men who are 40+ who just have their own place and a car and they have their pick of young women who are desperate to find a real man since their counterparts are all too busy being broke and living at home masturbating endlessly to porn. Sometim…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:47 AM
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I've seen this advice online so much but never tried it, as pretty much any hobby seems dominated by men, as most women lack hobbies outside of self gratification and mindless consumerism - they don't need to "work on themselves" because there is always a man willing to do the hard work for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:41 AM
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Oh, you're a woman, which means that plenty of people are willing to support you financially, if not your daddy then plenty of men are. I've seen many, many relationships where men who are earning well fully support their girlfriends so they don't need to work and are happy to do so. But rarely will there be a relationship in the reverse where the woman doesn't quickly grow resentful.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:38 AM
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This is hilarious. In my head I thought "watch me go to a ballroom dance class and see a bunch of dudes" reading this post. I think it's disingenuous to tell men not inherently interested in a hobby to go there just to meet women if they aren't naturally interested in going the distance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:35 AM
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You sound like you've never had to work full time. The average American Adult's life looks like this: Wake up at 6 am. Get ready for work. Leave around 7 am. Get there 7:30 to 8 am (commute is often 30 - 60 minutes, in the worst cases over 90 minutes one way). Work 8+ hours with an unpaid hour long lunch. Leave around 5 to 6 pm. Get home around 5:30 pm to 7 pm. Somehow fit everything you need to do including dinner, errands, and free time before you have to go to bed and do it all again tomorrow…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:32 AM
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Moms out here really buying their sons decent clothes, getting them hair cuts, buying them razors and acne creams, and young men are really out here hearing "just be yourself" as just being a fucking slob with no effort? You're trying to tell me moms are out there teaching their sons to shave and not their dads? Are you joking? It's insulting that you assume that by looks you think that means I don't know to shower regularly, wear deodorant, and do the bare minimum to NOT be disgusting. But that…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:24 AM
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Most guys these days, even ones who do well with women, espouse RP "tenets" but the guys who openly recite RP like bible verses I've met IRL are usually virgins/inexperienced and severely socially awkward abnormal dudes tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:53 PM
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Also I noticed in comments RPers are trying to take ownership of "working out, good career" but such advice existed way before RP therefore precedence before RP. Traditional cultures heavily emphasize the importance of having a good career for improving every aspect of QOL, including dating, but they dismiss actively dating in favor of economic stability. I see so many BP guys who have their careers in place but whose dating prospects are lacking because they weren't taught about the importance …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:51 PM
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"Be attractive and stable" isn't trp original advice, even blue pill motherfuckers been saying shit like that since the dawn of time. Blue pill advice is "there's someone for everyone" and "just be yourself" and "someone will love you for who you are" and "be a doormat for women and wait for them to sleep around with guys they are attracted to who treat them like dirt and stick around to save them from their bad life decisions" where RP advice is "if you're having problems dating then you need t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 06:53 PM
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Sure mislead the point, obviously girls usually find it disgusting because it generalizes them in a toxic manner by implying most women are morally evil or at least conduct themselves in a such. Again, I'd use the word misogyny but apparently it has no meaning to you. The mainstream narrative is that women are these perfect inherently good natured beings from a higher plane that mere mortal men don't deserve to touch. If shattering that bogus narrative is "misogyny" then we need more of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 06:49 PM
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"Only gold diggers care about money" "Only meatheads go to the gym to get big muscles"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 05:43 PM
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Implying you're a virtuous person who chooses to surround yourself with other virtuous wonderful people like yourself and anyone whose worldview differs is a bad person 🙄 you're not the first PPD woman to succumb to just world fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 10:59 PM
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IME plastic surgery looks better in person than in pictures a lot of the time, meaning that it doesn't look as fake if you don't know the signs
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 06:19 PM
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This woman still has work done, you realize that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:54 PM
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This guy below me is living in a fantasy land. In many places in the day time I see tons of guys who are shorter than me, (I am average height) pudgy or skinny fat, and not that good looking. Going out to bars you would think 6'1 is average height, everyone has 15+ inch biceps, and has chiseled faces with sharp jawlines. It's almost ridiculous that you go to bars and see the tallest most muscular and good looking guys and they still go home with their dicks in hands because those guys outnumber …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:00 PM
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This is definitely not true. The guys I know who sleep around the most treat women the worst, first of all because women let them get away with it and second (the non pc truth) that most women are mentally unstable and it takes someone who is sociopathic/manipulative to handle them. A guy who treats women well won't be able to get with most women because most women are toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 04:50 PM
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Which is true, I usually conflate race and ethnicity but even those factors like east Asian, west African, Anglo etc make a difference in others perception of you especially at a glance. I look fairly racially ambiguous to the extent many non white people are relatively comfortable with me from a distance but most black people look very distinct from most other ethnic groups, as do east Asian, etc and might be treated a certain way for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:42 AM
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Youre a woman, and unless you actually hook up with women who look like her it doesn't matter if you think she's cute when I'm the one who has to sort through overweight mentally ill women in my dating pool like her as a straight man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:39 AM
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In some ways that sounds better than the dystopia that dating is today. A lot of girls are not that pretty, but wearing a lot of makeup and showing a lot of skin makes them more visually appealing. Take that away and they wouldnt turn a head. The beauty standards pushed today for men and women are really fake, plastic surgery excessive makeup and enhanced body parts. Back then a girl like you described would have been acceptable and to be honest I would rather take a "plain" faced modestly dress…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:25 AM
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I am not overweight nor unkempt. Even a lot of younger girls today are quite fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:14 AM
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That's not true, the median age of an American in 1970 was about 28, and today is more than 10 years older than that, and somehow statistics seem to conflict but obesity is significantly higher today than back then as well. Even after liposuction she is considerably overweight and she is 40+.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:12 AM
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See above
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:07 AM
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Most women were in their 20s and not fat. As people started living on fast food and freeways in isolated suburbs and increasingly delayed and avoided marriage and having kids the median age crept up from early to mid 20s to late 30s/early 40s, and we went from virtually everyone being thin to virtually everyone being fat. How exciting is it to date as a young thin person when most people around you are old and fat versus young and thin?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:07 AM
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Sorry to hear that. You're 30+ and married now right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:03 AM
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I've seen more thin and fit dudes with fat girls than the other way around. When I see thin girls with fat guys they're usually tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 04:55 PM
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Married to your high school sweetheart... Probably not depending how old you are
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 04:52 PM
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It's depressing. Western nations are aging and growing in obesity, so the viable dating pool is shrinking. So technically you're right. But if you put her in America in the 1950s-1980s she would blend right in as virtually all women were young and thin back then. Now the Average American woman is somewhere between Amy Schumer and Rosie O'Donnell. That's the real reason dating is so bad today (especially as a man), not only is the percent of the population that is physically viable small, but eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 03:20 PM
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How come? It's the first thing most people notice about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 06:27 AM
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In the US an attractive single woman 18-28 with no kids is statistically quite rare
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:11 PM
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Most girls, even ones willing to hook up with black guys, don't want to seriously date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:05 PM
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Some parts of Europe have a higher percent of hot women compared to other rich western regions like US (and im assuming AUS, haven't been)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 07:23 PM
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American women have an unmatched quantity of hubris
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 07:16 PM
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The US has an abundance of women who are some combination of overweight, older, unambitious, uninteresting, uneducated, unintelligent, and unattractive women (with a ton of single moms) so just being young and non fat or not too fat makes you the cream of the crop. Compared to many countries where many women are young attractive and are raised with values/education, its just supply and demand really. US with not a lot of high quality women? Hard mode for guys. Country with lots of high quality w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:39 PM
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All white collar fields at the top end have the opportunity to make 7 figure incomes without an IPO, but you're right that its very rare and unlikely if you are not in a senior manager role or self employed and it's very unlikely to happen without decades of experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:58 PM
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You look like Andrew tate OP
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:55 PM
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You're in PE? I don't have to tell you there's a special place in hell for people in that line of work so if I went that route you know I've sold out. I feel that someday I'd be likely to hit the 7 figure mark otherwise but I didn't know even junior guys in PE were making that money. I definitely think that luck is the greatest factor in making a lot of money even if you work hard, which I don't think is a bad thing but I wish that people were more honest about it instead of attributing it to so…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 04:24 AM
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It is, It's been awhile but I had a hard time looking away when I read it. Their core belief is that women are inherently the prize and should be stubborn and entitled when dating and never compromise, but they never really discuss what to do to actually "level up" as they call it and they literally talk about how women bring their "feminine energy" to the table, but never anything tangible that they can do to improve as people or partners or what makes them deserve a "high value man" instead of…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 04:15 AM
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It reads as a troll post but one can hope
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 12:59 AM
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Nope, the term pick me is usually used to deride women who do anything that doesn't agree with feminist indoctrination and forces LVW to compete. "What, you aren't treating your boyfriend like a doormat and you cook and clean and lost some weight? STOP THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE NOW I HAVE TO ACTUALLY WORK ON MYSELF FOR A MAN REEEEEEEEEEE"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 12:59 AM
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Now I'm really starting to notice the cadence and tonality from that subreddit in a lots of places. I'ts pretty much 4th wave feminism on steroids
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 12:55 AM
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A sub full of angry young black and post menopause white women who hate men (I'm not kidding that this is the majority demographic of FDS)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 12:55 AM
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Women use pick me to describe any behavior that doesn't fit the feminine imperative according to feminisis
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 12:53 AM
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When i visited FDS like a while ago there strategies were the nice section . FDS is horrifying. They literally promote withholding sex from guys you are interested in having a relationship with until they commit and sleeping with side dudes on the side to satisfy their urges. There was a time I was reading their philosophy and it's disturbing that their teachings are now mainstream (even terms like "pick me," in that sub they use "pickmeisha" since there are a lot of black women there)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 12:48 AM
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And yes, I was making 7 figures. Career advice for making 7 figs at a young age? Income has very little influence on most women outside of height. Again, looks, status, and personality are far more important. (Arguably with looks being the harshest filter of them all) From older guys who are 7 figure earners (and who are probably flashier than you) it sounds like they tend to believe that money is important for dating. It also sounded like OP really flashed his money too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 12:38 AM
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Probably engineers, but some of these guys are pudgy with noodle arms, don't wear deodorant and smell bad, don't wipe their butts or shower regularly, and are severely awkward and timid (not exagerrating). The bottom end is very bad. An engineer who is relatively normal probably isn't a permavirgin but probably would still struggle dating because of a lack of exposure to girls. I have met some guys who are normal, sociable and high achieving and have never had an adult relationship (virgin) alth…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 12:35 AM
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For most women I would say you're probably right. I'm giving OP the benefit of the doubt because I'm sure most women aren't even going to pretend they have reasonable standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 12:27 AM
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The guy below is criticizing you but your standards aren't superficial. Just selecting for someone compatible with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:58 PM
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To be fair you don't know what OP or her husband looks like and whether you would even date her. Her standards are a bit picky but at least they are behavioral and not just about superficial things but things that actually select for compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:57 PM
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A 6'4 man is rare but a 5'4 man is still relatively rare
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:35 PM
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I think DD cup size is more common than 6'3"+. On a non obese woman? Who knows, but lots of tall guys are ugly too so maybe it balances out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:30 PM
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That explains it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:25 PM
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Maybe you can gain 5 to 10 lbs, but as someone who is probably a similar build as a man (average height, somewhat skinny somewhat fit) I feel skinny in the states and fat in Asia. I'm guessing you live in some suburban area or red state where most people are pretty heavy on average, it's ridiculous that the average American is built like Peter Griffin and skinny shaming is becoming more of a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 06:39 AM
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Europoors are hedonists enjoying the fruits of centuries of imperialism. They need immigrants to keep their societies afloat just like Americants.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 01:23 AM
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Women are usually the opposite, they are willing to put up with abusive jerks as long as they are hot
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 08:30 AM
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Roughly 2/3 of Americans are overweight, 1/5 are severely obese, and 40% are obese. Not sure about the exact numbers in Europe, although overall they are a bit lower and it also depends on what part of Europe you are talking about (UK is the closest to the US in overall obesity). There does seem to be more Europeans who are well groomed, dressed, and relatively fit than Americans overall, especially since there are more cities in Europe that are walkable with good public transportation and healt…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 05:25 PM
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Stop comparing a 6'3 white muscular man to a 6'2 white muscular man as an example of how diverse women's taste is, you're only proving men's point
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 04:14 PM
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Not a model but conventionally cute especially with thicker eyebrows and makeup. Being under 30, petite and white would make you above average in the US though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 04:10 PM
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"I don't like muscles. 6'0 200 lbs baby faced clean cut Chad is not attractive. But 6'4 225 lb Chad with a thick beard and tattoos is hot. "
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 03:56 PM
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Not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 03:24 PM
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Wow, women do have varied tastes in men. Instead of the 6'3 white guy who goes to the gym and takes steroids, you prefer the 6'2 white guy who goes to the gym and is still ripped! And since his body is naturally achievable he has an unimpressive "skinny" physique even though he's in better shape than 90% of men!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 03:21 PM
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It's a really egotistic attitude to think that you're above someone approaching you in public. You can choose to entertain them or not, but to call it harassment or creep behavior is just being snobby and should be called out as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 10:04 PM
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Privileged women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 10:01 PM
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He's goofy looking but Ross looks like a monkey, but both would probably do okay based on height race and location alone, but definitely not how it's portrayed on the show.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 09:52 PM
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That's what it's like for girls to be attracted to you and not just settling. I honestly feel like women are bigger perverts than men, but not in front of most men (80/20 rule which is really more like 90/10 or 95/5)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 05:31 PM
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This doesn't disagree with what OP is saying. Women only want sex with a small % of men, otherwise they do not get turned on very easily. But from the guy they want, they want it as often as they can get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 05:03 PM
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Women have way more options than men it's not even funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:40 PM
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Women do feel badly for men who are struggling and there is no benefit to lonely people in the world. But our male friends, coworkers, and classmates? Obviously women care about them and want them to succeed. Not at all, otherwise there wouldn't be so many of these struggling men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 08:17 PM
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Men having to spend money on women Note the difference Men having to spend money while dating It's generally asymmetric
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:44 PM
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Men having to spend money on women is a nearly universal component of dating, but men harassing women isn't universal. Men who are not stalkers or perverts do not experience that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:41 PM
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Sjws in some areas can go overboard, but they did and are doing much more for not just black people but pretty much all non white people than a lot of conservatives. If you've live around them or had close friends/girlfriends raised in such households its pretty crazy the way they view minorities in private. And despite being racist a lot of these women still fetishize minorities (men too)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:11 PM
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Said eloquently
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:02 PM
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It's not always bad to be cautious but you sound extremely paranoid and anxious
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:00 PM
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Most women would be offended
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:55 PM
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Not if you're a narcissistic American woman who doesnt think that's her equal
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:37 PM
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Not their first choice
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:07 PM
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Almost half of Americans are married. And many people settled in those marriages, that's not a good thing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:03 PM
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Tell me more examples, are they subtle or overt? Never lived in a rural area.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:39 PM
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Conservative women are more strict about masculinity, and usually conservative guys care more about the kind of masculine ideals those women conform to. Most hetero couples I've seen the guy is more conservative than the girl, but I've rarely seen the reverse except maybe for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:25 PM
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But a lot of the times the redpill would downplay their significance and claim that being jacked and/or charismatic enough can make up for most deficiencies. The truth is in the middle, as someone who is "average" height and not white, when I became very lean, I was turning the heads of women I would have thought to be way out of my league and even outside those ideal "looksmaxxed" conditions I can have any type of woman I would really want. But it's absolutely something I recognize to be a fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:19 PM
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Straight left wing guys who struggle dating believe that they are good guys for not being overtly sexually aggressive and harassing women and being involuntary celibate is better than flirting I mean manipulating women. That's why more gay guys are left than straight, because a huge amount of straight guys who struggle dating eventually wake up and realize they have a raw deal and gay guys don't feel those issues. Most straight guys especially these days eventually see through the gaslighting of…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:09 PM
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Feminism doesn't push men to improve, it pushes them to "do better" and sacrifice their own sanity for the sake of women. Forget being in control of your own emotions, staying in shape, and learning to read social situations and try to climb up the social ladder. You should realize your privilege as a man, let women step all over you, and feel ashamed of your sexual desires towards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:56 PM
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Pretty much from my understanding it's looks are more important than everything else, and to some extent factors like race and height that can't be changed are an extremely important part of that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:51 PM
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More than a few women judge men for this and openly sharing your lack of sexual history as a man won't help you overcome that, especially if you are 20+. Most girls overestimate the amount of experience the average guy has because of how easy it is for girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:40 PM
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Not really, guys are harshly judged for a lack of experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:33 PM
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I think it's the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:22 PM
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They're assuming the womens pov. They would absolutely prefer to have a guy that is hot and respectful, but usually have to compromise for one or the other. Its cliche but true. Usually better looking guys can get away with treating girls worse because girls are willing to put up with worse behavior from them and they have more options. Worse looking guys often treat them better because they have a scarcity of options. Anecdotally, I knew of one guy who was really good looking, over 6 foot perfe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:37 PM
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30 lbs and adding muscle is more than being a little overweight, but that doesn't take away from your point
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:22 PM
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I'm not a laborer but I admire that type of strength more than being extremely aesthetic. Most of those guys tend to be more on the overweight side. Don't know if it's a requirement to maximizing strength but being able to pick up 100+ lb furniture from the ground and carry it over your shoulder with one hand is something most gym bros can't do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:04 AM
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She was more mentally absent than physically if that makes sense. Finishing college itself isn't really an accomplishment either, there are plenty of highly educated people who can barely think for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:00 AM
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Our society pushes for us to be as incapable of fending for ourselves as possible. We don't technically need to since we live in a relatively safe society, but I don't think that's something we should strive for.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:57 AM
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It's funny that there's lots of guys at the gym that look "aesthetic" (steroids?) but are pretty weak for how big they look. But I see these laborer type guys who don't even look like they workout who lift a crazy amount of weight. Boggles my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:59 AM
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Oh wow you're an oldie but a Goldie. A rare breed indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 03:39 AM
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Yes they were actually. It blew my mind when I went to college and met girls who weren't
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 03:28 AM
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The workout philosophy those types usually preach - focus only on heavy compounds with barbells and forget about accessories and isolation exercises, no variation in intensity/volume, and the only progression scheme is to bloatmax and increase the weight as often as possible, will lead to plateaus fast. Addinf more upper body focused work, some more accessories, and a mix of heavy and light rep work and that is really all you need as long as you're in a caloric surplus long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 12:04 AM
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This hasn't been the case for decades if it ever was.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 11:58 PM
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This kind of explains your pov. Generally though most people are like your husband and not very handy at all, but a woman like you who is handy is pretty rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 11:54 PM
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The real question is where do you meet women who aren't like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 11:51 PM
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Another PPD woman womansplaining away my point of view with the patriarchy boogeyman. Toxic masculinity isn't the problem, you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 11:49 PM
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This is pretty off base. Know lots of non white not well off girls hoeing around
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 09:18 PM
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Why would they want to be vulnerable when most of the women on this sub are extremely hostile misandrists
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 09:16 PM
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Now that I think of it, nearly 100% of men I can think of have lower body counts than I would expect and nearly 100% of women have higher. As in, even guys who fit the profile of "6 ft+ ripped fuckboi Chad" might only have a single digit body count. But any regular looking girl might have dozens. And pretty much most of those guys who you would expect get little to no action, get little to no action.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 09:12 PM
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More women study in fields that are less technical, less rigorous and less competitive more often than men do, and have a lower ROI based on job prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:41 PM
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Thanks for calling out this overly emotional keyboard warrior. They're obviously not used to being called out for their irrational behavior and are used to bullying and gaslighting people and getting away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:48 PM
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Tom hiddleston is lokis actor. "women don't want a 6'3 roidhead, they just want a 6'1 ripped guy with a 6 pack"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:14 AM
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It's a joke to say that this guy wouldn't get a lot of attention from women for his looks irl.just that most guys don't look like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:58 AM
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Tomm hiddleston is still tall and ripped jfc
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:56 AM
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And im pointing out there's a difference in the way one gender is treated from the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 08:31 PM
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I'm glad you tell people to leave apps. Irl everyone says why don't you use apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 05:49 PM
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I've seen women who cheat and are forgiven frequently
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 05:47 PM
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More people will buy a Toyota than a Bentley, but people who are richer will pay more for a Bentley
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 04:03 PM
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It's funny how when women cheat nobody goes out of their way to berate them the way they do to men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 04:01 PM
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Actively hostile yes. Otherwise it is indifference
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:15 AM
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That's not the kind of socializing OP is looking for lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:06 AM
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That's over 700k 18-24 year old extra men according to OP. The odds are likely worse because women often date older, and if we increase the range to include up to 30 year Olds (keep in mind the ratio doesn't even out until around 50 and in most parts of the country the skew is drastically worse, like in Alaska, and is rarely ever even or slightly in favor of men like in NYC, which further exacerbates the 80/20 rule because some guys can capitalize on better ratios and some guys are dealing with …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:43 PM
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It's the other way around, they import immigrants because they need someone to do the work that the aging population can't/won't do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:34 PM
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Yes, the US has a declining aging population and they keep it up by bringing in young male immigrants. If there is a female immigrant then she is likely the spouse of a male immigrant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:29 PM
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A coherent argument is more effective than insults. Was that so hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:22 PM
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Being a bully doesn't make you anymore correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:21 PM
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You must not be in stem
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:36 AM
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That's why you don't see Black Karens Karens of all races exist
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:48 AM
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black pill is a very specific thing that is hyperfocused on looks and the general idea is that superficial characteristics are so important that everything else doesn't matter, and they have a pretty black and white view of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:58 AM
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Its never been easier to get around without a car now thanks to services like Uber. You can get around without a car by using someone else's car at a ridiculously high rate. You can talk to anyone anywhere, you dont need to find a space for it. This doesn't work if there are barely people around you or you live in a smallish town that isn't very transient and people have their closed off tight knight social circles. You would seem very weird for doing this. Touch grass basically means go outside…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:56 AM
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It sounds to me like you've had a limited range of experiences if you've never seen this happen. Could be. It just feels like to me the idea of being direct in that way ("You're hot" "you're cute" "you look amazing" or even something more specific to their behavior/clothes or whatever the compliment is) and it actually working goes against the entire way I've come to understand human behavior. I see most people as passive aggressive, indirect, manipulative, everything but direct. All the "rules"…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:47 PM
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I haven't seen someome compliment a girl then get with her. I've seen dudes compliment a girl and then not get with her. So it seems to me it is not what gets her to go home with you. If they're interested in you, then you don't need to compliment them to get them to go home with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:49 PM
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I did and I'm the only one outside
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:43 PM
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The relationship is the cow. The loyalty is the beef. The milk is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:41 PM
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Where as I was taught if you want it, 'go get it.' So was almost always direct. Which I think is far simpler. Not to mention efficient. Can you be more specific
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:55 AM
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Women have no problem dating out of shape 6'2"+ dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:48 AM
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I was shocked when I moved down south and a man asked me if I wanted to go to his apartment and drink wine, and that was apparently a request for sex. I have learned a lot since then haha. I thought this was universal
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:43 AM
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Height also isn't a major issue here like guys talk about - dudes in the Northeast are midgets, you regularly see men 5'5" and below with gfs/wives. Definitely haven't seen this there. Manhattan specifically there seems to be 6'4 dudes everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:42 AM
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Isn't the point to exclude married women and people with kids? If you're a young, single, fit male with no kids or previous marriages, then the percentage of similar women is very small.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:37 AM
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It's relevant and funny "Why buy the whole cow when you can get the milk for free"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:34 AM
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So long as a brother is tall and jacked That's part of the problem. Key and Peele look alikes that aren't rich and famous are down bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:04 AM
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Yeah this is actually kinda true. Non black women who go for black dudes want the 6'4 225 lbs of muscle dudes, not Key and Peele look alikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:03 AM
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I like seeing posts like this that gives specific advice, rather than the guy below who literally says just touch grass. There is a reason that we have such a growing population of men who are socially maladaptive especially in the states. Most Americans live in ever expanding rural/suburban towns that are car dependent, isolated and lack "third spaces" which makes it unnaturally difficult to make new connections with people. Not to mention that the median American is 40+, so for younger people …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:59 AM
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I feel like this is the truth for a lot of people especially in these parts of the web. Even after having close friendships and relationships after high school, I realized that missing out on normal social milestones from kindergarten until highschool is something that you don't really move on from even many years after the fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:38 AM
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These idiots somehow think that if you tell a woman that she's beautiful...these idiots think that you're sabotaging your chances I mostly agreed but haven't seen this play out well IRL. Women usually like receiving compliments even from men they're not interested in but this never seems to make a difference in actually getting them interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:23 AM
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Red vs. Blue - Head Noob in Charge | Rooster Teeth - YouTube
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:16 AM
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Are you looking for an average height man of 5'9+, aged 20-40, any race, not married, excluding obese, and with a minimum income of $0?? Your probability is listed at 20% ...so nearly triple the amount of women OP mentioned? You're just proving his point
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:04 AM
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This sounds about right, to be honest I would expect it to be a bit smaller. Age 18 to 30 is the smallest demographic in the US because it is an aging society, like most industrialized nations. The Median American is roughly 40 years old and significantly overweight. Compare this to the 50s when the median American was in their mid 20s (and skinny) or the 80s when they were around 30 (and still mostly skinny). If you are an 18 to 30 year old man based on the proportions of the population, findin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:58 AM
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That could do it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:18 AM
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This is why less guys want to be in relationships these days. Why be the guy who had to wait and be in a relationship with a girl like you and be exclusive with you when they can be the guy that just hooked up with a girl like you and move on to the next? Or not worry about talking to or being with multiple girls at once?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:56 AM
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Even average or not very cute girls get some really good looking dudes sliding in their dms. It's depressing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:40 AM
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Are you obese
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:34 AM
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As TRP would say, "straight from the horses mouth." I would hate going on a date knowing that she's sleeping with someone else at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:45 AM
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To me, it implies that women have less demand for men in general especially if majority of men aren't meeting their standards. Right. Most women don't choose self-improvement as an option because they already have options. To me it also implies that women who work on themselves generally are looking for a partner and once they are committed sort of dissapear in the background, practically becoming invisible to all but the most depraved men (I e. Men who are happy to steal women from other men be…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:12 PM
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Okay, so there is the problem - the women who are working on themselves are already snatched up. Which goes back to supply and demand - there are way more men into self-improvement than women, so women who are into self-improvment have many more options to choose from than vice versa. That's why they are snatched up. Also women don't necessarily need to go to the gym to improve themselves, you'll never see dudes in pilates , Zumba, spin class, pole dancing etc Which is true but even accounting f…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:04 AM
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There are way more guys than girls. All the girls are already with a boyfriend/husband or in a group surrounded by guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:11 AM
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There are women but in pretty much any gym ever there's nowhere near a 50/50 ratio
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:20 AM
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I feel like I live in a fantasy land if it's the norm for women to be interested in self improvement. Where im standing it's the norm for women to lack self awareness, not go to the gym, and basically stay the same year over year. This is from someone who has been on the self improvement treadmill for years, finding a girl who is on the same path is hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:09 AM
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More women graduate from college than men and in any major city there is a narrow "wage gap" if at all. You're talking about the 0.01% of CEOs and hedge fund managers rather than the guys who are on equal footing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:20 PM
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You're talking about streamers who are multi millionaires.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:18 PM
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Tons of guys think like this, wish more girls did too
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:16 PM
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Them being into sports is coincidental to them doing well with women, it isn't the reason they do well with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:51 PM
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Patronizing and still bizarre take and dead wrong. Know plenty of geeks into sports that don't score. "this guy who fucks watches sports, so guys who don't fuck must not watch sports!"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:38 PM
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This is a bizarre take
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:22 PM
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Everyone on there is thirsty. Many guys just swipe right on everyone because they know the odds of a match are low.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:19 AM
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Tell that to people on PPD and irl I know who don't use apps/are girls
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:18 AM
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What kind of whacko logic is this? You really think more often than not a guy walks up and leaves and says "oh yeah, I forgot I had a wife I wanted to divorce!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 06:43 PM
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That's the generally accepted idea but it's also hard to qualify.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 06:12 PM
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Sometimes girls report dudes for something as slight as their tone of voice
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 08:39 AM
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You're Brad martyn's dad?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 08:35 AM
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Keep in mind some universities have a 2 to 1 male to female ratio and your odds highly depend on where you go to school. Otherwise #1 and #2 is good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 08:30 AM
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This is more just world bs. Lots of girls are in relationships who are terrible partners, and lots of those girls who were snatched up young will eventually divorce their husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 08:26 AM
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So go sleep with an 18 year old
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 07:33 PM
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The idea that the peak of dating starts before most people even start puberty alone invalidates this ridiculous post
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 07:31 PM
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LA is full of old diggers tho, I see ton of noticeable age gaps there I don't see as common elsewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 07:28 PM
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It's not weird at all! It's just like the end of chattel slavery being extremely beneficial for black people, but only good for the small subset of business owners inclined to have them as customers. Most plantation owners suffered a huge downgrade to their quality of life without the free labor 😔 ... did you just imply that women were oppressed the same way that black slaves used to be? What is wrong with you? Most of the descendants of slaves are still in poverty today and many of the descenda…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:43 AM
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1) The us has grown fatter and older over time. In the 50s the average American was in their 20s and skinny. In their physical prime and in better health than today. In the 80s it was around 30. Today the average american is 40+ lbs overweight and middle aged. 2) There is a higher bar to be established, meaning college, post grad education, etc. Many young people are delaying finding a partner because people are now hitting certain milestones of adulthood much later (for example, in the 50s any …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:38 AM
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Young people are the smallest demographic with the least free time and money. They have no power to change shit
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:29 AM
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There's a reason there are more women than men in a lot of social spaces (church, gym, etc. Not at all. Everywhere is a sausage fest especially gyms. There are rarely girls that are unattached anywhere and always way more dudes than girls. Churches are mostly old people but I'm not into that anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:25 AM
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This is PC, whitewashed feel good blue pill crap. I used to be unattractive. Not seriously deformed or severely obese, just had a bad hairstyle, bad fashion, honestly the biggest part was really just that I was really skinny fat, which meant I had no muscle and had a chubby face while being small. I was always confident, I was always funny, witty, could speak in front of a crowd and knew how to articulate myself well. But I was invisible to most people particularly girls. Once I worked on my loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:18 AM
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Yes, people grow out of their toxic behavior from teens to adults (usually), but that doesn't take away the pain that was caused by inconsiderate teenagers, and how it affects someone's self esteem. Definitely not...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:08 AM
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One of the most true things that RP talks about is the tradthot/postwall/AFBB dynamic. Girl parties and sleeps around 18-25+ and as she gets older, her looks fade, and she is getting close to the age where she wants to settle down (college and credit card debt add up fast and working a 9-5 isn't fun). She suddenly realizes that her options will dwindle over time if she doesn't capitalize on them soon so she starts putting more importance on money and commitment. You are encouraging young men to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:08 AM
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Jbw
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:28 AM
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Yes and as evidenced by an ugly guy like John Krasinski that being white and 6'3" is valued over being conventionally attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 01:27 AM
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So what do you have to say when it seems like a lot of young men and women alike irl talk like the toxic content found online? That these seemingly obscure discussions on the internet are finding their way into real life interactions?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:41 PM
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I think that an income of $100k i something like top 15% -20% of men, and most of those guys are going to be 35+ and married.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:39 AM
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6'3" is top 1% in height, that is how tall he is, you hypergamous woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:55 AM
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Girls are 4-6 years minimum ahead of most guys in terms of dating experience, if not closer to 10 (many men will never close that gap.) I absolutely assure you that most older guys aren't magically some type of master manipulators and this is the weirdest most illogical thing I keep hearing radical feminists on reddit saying about age gap relationships. They just can't handle the truth, that if a guy who is 30+ is still on the dating market and is a catch, that he can get a younger and better qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:39 PM
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Ive seen age gaps as wide as 13 years and you would never know because the guy was fit, had a full head of hair and didn't look older at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:33 PM
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Women can be obese, flat chested, have a lazy eye, autistic, have hormonal problems, personality disorders, below average iq, debt, lazy, mean, any other combination of negative traits, and still get lots of attention from men. The same is not true for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:29 PM
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Many young men who would otherwise be capable of contributing to society have realized that NOBODY values them for what they do and only exploit them. Employers, women, nobody. We have an increasing amount of young men who are opting out of being taken advantage of, and if there was incentive to participate in society there wouldn't be as many of these men. When I was broke and in college, it was easier to get girls. Why? Because outside of college bubbles, they do not exist. The average America…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:17 PM
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Conventionally attractive = top 1% in height and white
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:41 PM
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