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NYE Purge Post!NOTSM/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 07:17 PM
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Ability to fill an archetype is important here. As a fellow short dude I struggle less largely because of the rest of my looks and vibe all time up with your standard Jersey boy and women that like that tend to not care about height as much. If I tried to pull off the pretty boy look at my height I’m sure I’d struggle. Location also matters for a similar reason. Certain types of girls like me way more than others, being in an area with enough women that like the type of dude you are is important…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 07:51 PM
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If you view child sacrifices as late stage abortions one could argue they’d have more reproductive rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 01:46 AM
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There is no freaking out about the future, I know that I don’t want a future with this person. Normally the chick is cute, cool, fun to chat with and I fully believe would be a catch. But I don’t want to date her and I never will, it could be for a whole host of reasons. The bar to be the chick I occasionally fuck and grab drinks with is way lower than the bar to be the chick I want to commit to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:04 PM
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Only if “I don’t like her enough to actually formally date her” is considered a psychological condition
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:19 PM
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I’m sure it isn’t But as far as I’m aware nowhere in the OP did she talk about the gender flipped version. Admittedly I didn’t, and won’t, read all that text
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:01 PM
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Men aren’t going to view it that way
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:37 PM
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I’ve found it’s easy to find women that claim they’re down for casual and I’m sure many of them really think they are. But give it a few months and she’ll start pushing for a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:25 PM
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Most of the time the man isn’t actively trying to trick the woman into believing he wants to marry her and start a family. Instead it’s the woman that’s convincing herself this is the case, normally by ignoring all the signs that he isn’t that into her and desperately looking for signs that he is. Sure, often times there is no overt, direct and repeated comments from the man that he will never marry this particular woman and I’m sure women would love for every man they come across to fully lay t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:22 PM
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Catholicism doesn’t have a ban on drinking. And from a cultural standpoint alcohol is a key part of catholic family celebrations
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:34 PM
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You’re right. But you’re forgetting that women are retarded when it comes to evaluating men they love. As long as you’re not actively terrible she’ll convince herself that you’re the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:07 PM
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Get as hot as you reasonably can Download some dating apps and/or go club hopping Hit on women Fuck the women that are feeling you and shrug off the ones that aren’t. Done
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:00 PM
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It’s not that I can’t find a more attractive women to date. It’s that the more attractive women isn’t in front of me at the given time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 02:56 PM
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Because she wants kids and a family and she tries to make it work. Have you ever been with a woman that was crazy about you? Or seen how your chick friends treat the different dudes they date? It’s so extreme it’s impossible not to notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:54 PM
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Because she doesn’t respect the Mr. Nice guy and her treatment of him will reflect it. The way women treat men they’re crazy about be how they treat dudes they’re meh about is night and day. Also why are we assuming the AF dude is going to die alone? Dude will probably have a wife, kids and a happy family.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:48 PM
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It’s not the norm. You’re attracting and selecting for that type of woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:41 PM
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Some people definitely give off prey vibes. Im not sure if it’s posture or build or what, but you just know they’d be an easy target before you’re even spoken to them. But don’t worry about that too much, because the reality of the situation is no matter what vibe you give off people will always test you and will push you if they think they can. You need to do 3 things. One is develop a backbone, push back when people try to get you to do things you don’t want to do. Two is to stop framing situa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:23 PM
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Never had an LTR with a woman but claims dating women is easy. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 04:52 PM
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It’s not about designer brands or fancy cars. The neighborhood they live in, their hobbies, the bars/restaurants they frequent. Now it’s physically possible for a man to be filthy rich and still have none of that, but that’s not the guy gold diggers would want to target anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 05:07 PM
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It’s probably not a gold digger question as you don’t need to explicit ask to figure out what economic bracket someone is in. It’s normally pretty easy to figure out from their dating profile
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 04:17 PM
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This is the sort of thing people don’t rank in a strict hierarchy, and people overvalue their partner. Taking those two point into account the end result is that as long as you’re good enough in bed there’s a good chance your partner will consider you “the best” even if it’s not objectively true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 09:47 PM
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If we start arresting every single women that says “omg I like totes never do this!!!!!!!” We’re going to have to build more prisons.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:34 PM
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The quick and dirty definition is when she goes along with your sexual escalations and/or escalates the situation herself. This is the sort of thing that’s obvious 99% of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 06:11 PM
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Very similar in most regards. Middle class whites that run in similar social circles and have <5 year age gap. Only real difference is that she’s around 5” taller than me and I grew up poor before making the jump to middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 05:01 PM
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Attraction isn’t just triggered by traditionally attractive physical features. Using the example in your post the terrorists extremely violent masculinity is probably what triggered the “spark.”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 06:04 PM
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This would freak most women out, and rightfully so.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:45 PM
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I love these sorts of threads. Watching women do a complete 180 and start parroting a bunch of pro-life talking points will never stop being funny to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 01:08 PM
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In the OG redpill alpha was just an adjective used to describe a trait/behavior that women found sexually appealing Alpha trait: One that women find sexually appealing Beta trait: One that gives off provider vibes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:12 PM
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Social Circle A friend of a friend is a great way to meet women. Conversation comes naturally, everyone is already having fun, probably drinking and women are more open to a dude that’s been socially co-signed by one of her friends. But I’d avoid fucking/dating in your immediate friend group, it always gets weird. Old You should have this as it’s low effort, but don’t make it your primary. Approach first You should still do this. Cold approaches with randos in a grocery store probably aren’t wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:33 PM
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Number 12 is such an important point. The difference between a woman that’s legit excited about you vs one that’s whatever about you is night and day
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:26 PM
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I think the disconnect stems from the phrase “feel unsafe” I don’t know any woman that would happily date a dude she felt physically unsafe around. However I do know plenty of women that have dated a shit bag or two. Don’t know what you want to call that sort of behavior, it’s not unsafe but it’s also not selecting for kindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:11 PM
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Man and old. It’s happens because women lie about what they want and/or have a complete lack of self awareness in this area. Especially when young. For your sweet 5 vs batshit 9 I’d take the 5. However I know a lot of dudes that would go for the 9 and young me would have too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 03:28 PM
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Of course. If we’re done with kids it makes more sense for me to get the snip than for her to continue to fuck with her hormones
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 08:56 PM
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The vast majority of couples I see are looks matched. Women do this thing where they over rate other women due to traits men don’t really care about. Stuff like a cute outfit or artsy makeup. I’ve also never heard a woman give such a caveat. What I have heard about is variations of “he’s so bad a taking photos, he looks so much better in person”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:32 PM
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In that environment you’re not tracking people’s movements and conversations or anything like that. Bill would probably have no idea she was vibing with some other dude earlier in the night to the point she’d have no interest in dancing with someone else. Hell there’s a good chance bill wasn’t even aware of her existence 30 seconds before his approach
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:44 PM
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Because she’s in a club. Dancing with randos on a crowded dance floor is the the reason people go to clubs It’s really not a big deal
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:44 PM
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If you want to be valued for more than sex then provide value beyond just potential sex
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 03:23 PM
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When women say they care about personality more than looks they’re not lying, they really believe that’s true. But what actually happens is women see a guy they find physically attractive and then project a bunch of their desired personality traits onto him. All the while believing that these projected traits are what truly attracted them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 06:57 PM
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Quick google search says are over 350k breast augmentations in the US per year. Total the number is well over a mill
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:11 PM
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Women that check all those boxes account for considerably higher than 1% if the dating age population. Hell some of those, like makeup and shape wear, are used by 99.9% of dating age women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:56 PM
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Fake tits, Botox, makeup and shapewear aren’t enough to make most women “too hot” for men. Those things are all fairly common and most women that go that route still don’t end up will 6’4” models with trust funds.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 01:33 PM
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There is definitely a subset that shoot themselves in the foot with their obsession with a specific number. But it’s not the ones setting their height filter at 5’8”, it’s the ones setting it at something ridiculous like 6’3” and cutting out 99% of the male population.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 06:07 PM
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From what I can tell most women that engage in it love it There is a select group that come out in the other side bitter, namely those that can’t lock down a man during or post hoeness. But that has nothing to do with the actual sluttery
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 06:25 PM
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I’m not reading all that, but I can assure you women lie It’s roughly 83% of what they do
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 05:32 AM
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It has more to do with the gap in attractiveness than the man’s objective attractiveness. If the man is noticeably more attractive then what you say tracks. If they’re equal of if the woman is hotter then it’s up in the air
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 03:21 PM
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We’re about to find out the age range of a few posters
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 05:58 PM
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Adhering to social norms doesn’t signal desperation. If you only pay for the date if you’re vibing and want to see her again you won’t be paying for women that are aren’t interested in a second date too often. If you limit your first date spot to a bar you’ll filter out the free food women before the first meet
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 04:38 PM
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I’m a dude and I believe that if a man wants a second date he should pay for the first. I signals an interest in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 03:39 PM
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Broke men will stop dating the second women stop fucking broke dudes, and not a moment sooner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 08:03 PM
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Most of your male incel tears posters are self described incels. They’re just seeking acceptance by signaling that they’re still a good little feminist. And the “incels” on the right aren’t actually incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 06:50 PM
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Yes Skill issue if you can’t
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 02:00 PM
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Then maybe club game isn’t your strong suit. No shame in that But if you get rejected constantly in every medium then you need to focus on self improvement
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:13 PM
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You’re absolutely right that you’ll poison the well with repeated rejections in a club setting, but only in that club and only for that night. You can simply move to one of the other 30 clubs on that block or try again next weekend and it will be like it never happened. And given that approaching is required for most men to get laid you’ve got to do it and accept that you’ll strike out. The upside of doing it in a club is you still have a fun night hanging with your friends
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:32 PM
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It’s when a man doesn’t do exactly what a women wants exactly when she wants it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 02:58 PM
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This chart proves that women are the real incels. Maybe if they took a shower and stopped being so sexist men would date them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:58 PM
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Women Does my post history not make that obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:03 PM
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Dont you mean tricking woman into the s word
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:48 PM
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I hope she sees this bro
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:45 PM
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Once women go to AI, they will experience a relationship where they are in control but the Ai can give the illusion of being dominated, where it intuitively gets that she is not 'in the mood' and will never push for sex when she isn't. Angst filled discussions on how he or she doesn't feel desired will be a thing of the past when your partner intuitively adjusts to what you want and will never forget. Women who are increasingly burnt out by the men they pursue will migrate over to AI chatbots be…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 03:27 PM
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It’s a guide for average dudes on how to bang more skanks. All that extra stuff that got added in is just worthless jibber jabber.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 06:52 PM
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THE HOCK!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 02:40 AM
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Are we not talking about women feeling entitled to relationships after sleeping with men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 02:44 PM
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Women need to stop being sexists that treat men like objects that they can just put sex coins into and get relationships out of
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 02:37 PM
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This is how I know being gay isn't a choice Real tired of dealing with these hoes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 04:37 PM
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How can I possibly argue with such impressive credentials
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 03:43 PM
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I admittedly didn't watch the video. But the images in the thumbnail are absolutely sexual and go way beyond normal workout gear
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 03:38 PM
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It's awalt not aawalt. TRP doesn't differentiate by looks when it comes to female nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 06:12 PM
2

Still red on dating/sex and probably always will be. It worked for me and it fits the relationship dynamics I see in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 04:01 PM
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Found it way back in the day on the bodybuilding misc forum. I wasn't a complete loser with women when I found it, but I wasn't doing as well as I wanted. It wasn't presented in the same way reddit trp is. More casual bro talk and less specific terminology. Felt more organic
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 03:25 PM
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The one without kids and it's not remotely close
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 04:22 PM
2

I'm currently living with the woman I plan on marrying
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 07:26 PM
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Romance isn't dead but stuff like writing love letters and giving gifts after a few dates is. And good riddance, I don't want to have to do any of that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 06:25 PM
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30 currently dating a 28 year old. Single age range would be roughly 23-32. Although women on both ends would come with potential issues. That age range has, and will continue to, shift over the course of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 04:26 PM
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They do because they're right, if a man isn't interested enough to approach then he's not truly interested in her. Sure maybe they approach a man and can change his mind. But why bother with that when she could just pick from the men that have already made their interest obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:36 PM
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In theory most men would be fine with a loner girl and a huge chuck would even prefer it. However in my experience loner women are alone not because they want to be, but because they're incapable of maintaining healthy relationships of any sort. Something that will eventually turn into a deal breaker
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:27 AM
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Probably not, after all you don't look for solutions to problems you don't have. That being said my sex/dating views and behaviors aren't too far off from my natural player friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 06:47 PM
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Yes to both I'm over this whole 9 to 5 thing tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 05:22 PM
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Yeah, that sort of thing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:40 PM
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Basically a willingness to make generalizations/minor stereotypes based on gender
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:10 PM
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Casual sexism is normal human behavior and doesn't imply hatred of the other gende
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:11 PM
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Some of you have partners who I assume are on board with your RP ideas? Do they know? Depends what you mean. Do they know I talked about banging sloots with socially maladjusted weirdos on a body building forum? No Does she know I used to sleep around and can be casually misogynistic at times? Yes Will you only consider dates with RP women? No, I am currently dating and always have dated normie chicks. Will you hide your RP past? See first answer I’m just trying to understand how you think it wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:50 PM
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You seem to be coming from a position of framing a relationship as a competition with a winner and a loser. This is what those dudes are trying to avoid. Personally I'd find such a relationship to be exhausting, as would many other men. I view my relationship a team that works together. So, when disagreements come up, we work together to solve them we don't fight to exert our will on the other. I get enough of that at work and the real world, I don't need it at home from the one person that is s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 03:19 PM
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There's also fuck with their heads, being dickmatized is a real thing. And most of my orgasms had zero chance of causing life, unless toilets or mouths can get pregnant
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:58 PM
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even the male orgasm is far stronger on the male body than the female orgasm, that's why we hear about post nut clarity and how abstaining from ejaculation gives you way more energy What? Women's orgasm will have their brains shut off and their legs turn to jelly, ours is just a 5 seconds grint.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:49 PM
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I'm an old man at 30. What are your thoughts on step parenting? Would you ever consider becoming a step dad? Or is a woman already having children to another man a 100% dealbreaker? This is a complete deal breaker for me right now. But I could see myself doing so if I find myself single with kids of my own. If you would like to answer further questions on the topic: Do you think that being a step dad conflicts with conservative values? and if so, do you look down upon men who are step fathers? I…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 05:17 PM
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I don't doubt that women hold out hope that the dude they're fucking will magically change his mind. I've been on the other end and I've seen some of my chick friends do it. But it's not overt manipulation by the men, it's women letting their desire cloud their better judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:24 PM
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How is a decade of no effort and no commitment not a clear sign? Especially when it followed an overt statement from the man. I don't get why women would assume the male behavior you just described implies he would want a relationship in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:12 PM
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For the most part we really don't. Some women just lie to themselves and convince themselves that there's more to the relationship than there actually is. When the reality hits them they have a tantrum, its incelesque behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:52 PM
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Reading between the lines here but it seems like you view a casual hook-up where the man has no interest in progressing things to a relationship as some malicious manipulation. That's not really how it works. Normally the chick is cool and we just casually hookup until one of us gets weird and/or finds a long term partner. This whole thing can last a few weeks, be an on/off thing for years or anything in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:48 PM
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How many men actually admit to potential dates or even family members, co-workers etc that the follow the red pill? Zero if they have an above room temp iq Are you proud to follow it? If by this you mean am I vocal about it then no Would you say it helped or hindered you in dating? Definitely helped Do you think women are attracted to men that follow it or is it meant to be a private journey? The end result is attractive Would you be honest if you were asked or would you try to hide it? I've nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 05:08 PM
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What specific issue, that men are more violent than women? That will never change. Best we can do is crack down on violent antisocial behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 05:09 PM
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Involuntary single men are considerably more violent than their female counterparts. The same is true for voluntarily single men, men in relationships and any other demographics you can think of Men are just straight up more violent than women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 04:59 PM
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I definitely don't want to settle down with a woman that has killed her family. I get it, don't judge a woman by her past or whatever. But that seems like a solid red flag
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:03 PM
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So she picked 18 immature and irresponsible guys and I'm supposed to believe she suddenly wants the opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:48 PM
9

Option B's inability to keep a man around is concerning
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:40 PM
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I'd advise him that if he has to "date down" to get a girl he's not actually dating down. He's dating at his level while suffering delusions of his own value. So either improve or accept his current level
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:10 AM
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-Struggles with women and is bitter about it. This dude will throw you under the bus for a sniff of pussy -Overtly feministy. Predator in disguise -Struggles with banter. Doesn't mean they're a bad guy, it just means we won't get along. -Doesn't ask questions during conversation. Same as above -Gives off a "fake" vibe. Everytime I've gotten this vibe off a guy he's turned out to be a raging asshole, so now I trust my gut on this
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 07:47 PM
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That seems more like a self soothing delusion than it does entitlement. Just a way to convince themselves they're not SMV losers. It's possible to be in demand at 35, but you've got to put the work in and the age range you'll attract will be more like 23-30, not 18-25.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:44 PM
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Hitting the wall refers to a hard drop in sexual desirability due to aging. Unattractive broke dudes didn't have any value to lose and no one cares about them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:33 PM
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I'm a sex on the first date kinda guy. But I get your confusion as trp has become schizophrenic on this issue. There is a sizable subset of trp dudes that want to use trp to find a trad con relationship straight out of 1953. Personally I find this group to be delusional and out of touch with normal western values, but they're who are driving a lot of the disconnect you see.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:41 PM
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I live in the US. Not sure how other countries handle it, nor do I really care tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 09:02 PM
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Even after controlling for economic level single parent homes still result in considerably worse life outcomes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:57 PM
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Only in the short term. In the long term it results in exponentially more kids in single parent homes. And a large amount of those kids will go on to be criminals and/or reliant on welfare themselves. Or we could stop rewarding this behavior and watch it stop
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:25 PM
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We already throw deadbeat dads in prison, I'm not advocating for a change to that policy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:22 PM
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The solution on the woman's side is to not get knocked up by broke losers that don't care about you and won't care about any future kids The solution from the government's side would be to stop giving single moms endless gibs and watch the problem solve itself in a generation
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 07:35 PM
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Yes, I've already said that the majority of leeches are women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 07:32 PM
-7

No, the benefits are going to the women. If they weren't given free housing, food, healthcare and a whole host of other benefits then they'd have to find other ways to get them or go without having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 06:43 PM
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OP is referring to an issue on a mass scale. My response specifically mentions being on a mass scale. Yet in comes the "on an individual level that's not always true" response
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 06:23 PM
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On a population level this isn't true. Men pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits while the opposite is true for women. Men are subsidizing women's existence in the US, and I'd imagine this trend holds true for other western nations.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 06:07 PM
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"women that are attracted to men are actually bisexual" Interesting thesis there
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 04:50 PM
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Anyway, what I'm trying to say, is while I'm appreciative of people risking their lives for the safety of others who don't have to go out and fight, most if not all war is over women. I mean, why do they want the extra land, money, minerals? To get the most p*ssy. It sounds rather absurd until you try to disprove it. Lol, 6000 years of human conflict and achievement can be boiled down to "muh pussy." What level of narcissistic drivel is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 05:11 PM
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Since it's easy to figure out no amount of "well actually studies show that only 19.73% of women can cum from vaginal intercourse" is going to convince a woman that's orgasmed from vaginal to stay with a dude that can't make her cum. I doubt there is strategy at play here. The users in those subs probably want to act like they're sexual geniuses for knowing what foreplay is
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:26 PM
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This seems easy to figure out. If a woman has been able to cum from penetration with other men then it's on the dude if she can't cum with him. If she's never been able to cum from penetration then it's on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:35 PM
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Because they don't
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 06:34 PM
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All women are "bi" in the sense that they engage in behavior that would get men classified as gay. Like make out with another women for attention or get a lap dance from a female stripper Very few are "bi" in the sense that they would actually fuck and/or date another women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 05:59 PM
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Literally the only way for a woman to be good in your eyes is to be asexual or 18. That's just not true. I'm misogynistic towards asexuals and 18 year olds too
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 06:44 PM
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So instead of having a pointless relationship with a average looking guy, I was able to have super good sex with hot guys that I didn't have to see any potential with. So no serious relationship experience, little to no future time orientation, but a history of taking a million dicks. Sounds great But seriously this has to be a larp designed to get men here reeeeing. Even the more extreme red piller examples of af/bb aren't this on the nose
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 06:13 PM
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. I have fat guy friends, short guy friends, guy friends that are 3/10s on their very best day and I have guys that can’t go out in public without getting hit on by at least one girl. But all of these guys date very attractive girls. If all the uggo men are dating hotties then the hot men must either be single or dating uggos for the numbers to work out. Seems more likely that you're calling below average to average woman "very attractive"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 10:34 PM
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It's the same guy. Just one short, fat balding Indian janitor running around fucking all the women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 10:31 PM
2

There isn't and there never will be. Because women are incapable of giving men solid dating advice, harsh or otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:07 PM
1

Dude even if you find a partner legally you're still.open to getting fucked. She can still wear a ring on her finger. This will make you common law a lot of states. My lifelong partner would have 0 DNA and 0 legal parental right to them. This won't matter if your partner takes on a parental role. She'll still be able to sue for custody/support. And if you're wealthier and have been paying for 100% of her living expenses she'll get it. Just marry and knock up one woman like a normal person. Cutes…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:42 PM
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First of all studies are for nerds Second of all the claim is 20% of men are having 80% of the casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 02:58 PM
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Would if I could
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 06:48 PM
21

They both fuck a lot and have happier relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 05:06 PM
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If however the tables were turned and the average guy had literally hundreds of new Woman available to him at the flick of an app every single day; wouldn’t he simply be swiping on the hottest ones? We already know what would happen, just look at gay dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 02:12 PM
13

Maybe if you virtue signal harder you'll finally get the girlfriend you want
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:51 PM
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I've done a few of these. Photos of your drinking and smoking at the club (just feels trashy to me) My chick friends love to take photos every time we go out so they had a bunch of me drunk off my ass. Trashy sure, but it probably helped me filter my matches for the low inhib party type. Awful gnarly hobo beards! (You know that one that is just a pile of neck beard pubes that screams "I ran out of usable razors a month ago and gave up!") I once made a profile that was just one photo of me lookin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:50 PM
5

When I was young I was super social, active on dating apps and had no qualms about dumpster diving
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:52 PM
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Most men care for 2 reasons, neither of which have anything to do with insecurity It's just gross on a primal gut level There is definitely an overlap between being high n and having unresolved mental issues. Even if it's not always true our brain recognizes patterns and makes assumptions Both of which are easily worked around and why you won't see most men reject a slut that treats him like a king. If it was really some personality defining extreme insecurity then you'd see your average man wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 08:47 PM
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So no. It's fine, I have close chick friends but I don't pretend they don't talk differently when it's just the girls. Especially when it's a topic I clearly have strong opinions about
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:59 PM
13

You privy to bro only talk often?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:47 PM
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Most men care to some extent in the sense that if everything else is equal they'd take lower N But I also don't think most men would leave a happy relationship with a woman that treats him right just because she's fucked more dudes than he'd prefer
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:14 PM
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Being in different life stages can pose challenges. While I don't view a 30 year old dating a 20 year as "predatory" there are real practical differences in their life stages The 20 year hasn't graduated college and should be looking to keep their options open professionally, which means being open to moving, not thinking about kids and starting to build a strong financial base. While I'd expect the 30 year old to be more stable and looking to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:31 PM
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They absolutely do. Even if they don't have to, I had women that clearly felt the need to "complete" against imagined hoes that didn't actually exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 06:56 PM
6

Because some of those men are hot
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:20 AM
17

The majority of those insults are basically saying "you have a lot of sex with a lot of different people" and that will never be insulting to a man
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:19 AM
13

I hope she sees this bro
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 11:13 PM
5

I can change him
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 06:47 PM
37

I'd support this. Dating is drastically different based on life stage and the advice I'd give a 20 year old is drastically different from the advice I'd give a 30 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 05:29 PM
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Fat chicks and skinny chicks don't play in the same league and anyone telling you that they do is delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 03:44 PM
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A normal hairline makes you look more youthful and a hotter face which is what matters in your 20s, not your job, status, money, or any other compensation for being fat and/or bald. Good hair is a plus but you're drastically overestimating how important a good hair line is. It's not even in the top 5 physical traits
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 04:44 PM
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Men's issues with high n women come from 2 places Subconsciously we have an automatic disgust reflex. Consciously we see that having a high n is usually a symptom of some sort of mental issue. That being said if a high n woman treats her man well most men won't really care all that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 03:31 PM
4

The average dating age woman (18-35) in the US has a BMI of roughly 27, which would translate to 5'4" and 155ish I don't think the average slightly chubby dude would have an issue dating an average slightly chubby woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:15 PM
78

A hot man with glasses
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:59 PM
15

Chad isn't a boogeyman, he's an ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:45 PM
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You should absolutely treat strange men as violent savages
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:36 PM
24

They like the personality traits dudes that engage in that sort of behavior often have. Unfortunately if a man is a dick to everyone else he'll also be a dick to you. Something that seems to shock most women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:59 PM
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In this context it's mostly used to refer to dudes that are shitty in relationships. Be it cheating or constantly lying or undermining her or starting fights for no reason or just not pulling his weight.in.the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:31 PM
2

OLD if you just want to get your dick wet. A friend of a friend situation is still the best way to meet high quality girlfriend material women Can't join groups with the goal of asking them out.(and often there are basically rules banning it). Who cares about the rules? Don't ask some woman out day one of joining, but if you chill for a bit and vibe with a girl in the group ask her out anyway. Even if she turns you down chances are she's not going to flip out and try to get you kicked from the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:47 PM
7

Let's break down your sex requirements handsome in the face: genetic fit: obtainable but not enough on it's own financially successful: the level you need to reach for this to be attractive for just sex is astronomical. A 400k a year salary isn't getting panties wet interesting, intelligent, and kind: most women don't give a fuck about these for casual sex Our "best self" as you've described it doesn't do much for our chances to get laid. In fact that seems to be where most of the angst comes fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:09 AM
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What was your ratio of time/effort:new partners from cold approaches? For most men it's going to be abysmal and they'd be better off meeting women by other means
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 02:06 PM
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One party gets financially rewarded the other gets fucked I doubt women that are in a position to pay child support file for divorce as often as the average woman
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:18 PM
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A hard limit on the number of right swipes a man gets per day and a limit of the number of active matches one can have. This will force men to be more selective, men's lack of selectivity is a huge driver behind OLD being so lopsided
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 05:20 PM
5

I'd agree with the idea of "manufacturing the moment" Get him alone, touch his arms and giggle at his jokes. But I still think the first explicit move should come from the man
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 10:55 PM
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I think the group of men that ask her out has a considerably higher percentage of men that are legitimately interested in dating her than the group of men that don't initiate does
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 10:38 PM
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Sure men could say the same thing, but if a man never approaches he'll probably die alone
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 10:13 PM
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Yeah both sides deal with it, but only one side is going to die alone if they don't ask people out
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:58 PM
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Is "willing to ask a woman out" now the bar to be considered a player
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:50 PM
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Dudes not overly interested but isn't going to turn down a girl hurling herself at him. So they hang out and fuck for awhile but, because of the aforementioned lack of interest, it never turns into the relationship the woman wants
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:43 PM
10

This seems like a good way to get pumped and dumped or strung along. If the man was really interested he'd make it known
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:15 PM
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what am I supposed to do as a young 20 year old man? Get abs Take shirtless photos Download tinder Use said shirtless photos Shits not rocket science
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 03:05 AM
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Chill with the neuroticism and learn to make a decision and stick to it. As for my gender we really need to stop being so desperate to bust a nut.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 10:49 AM
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For example, girls suicide attempt rate has been up 70% since 2001-2010 for ages 15-19, in comparison to up 25% for men. This really isn't the stat you want to use. Male adolescents kill themselves over 3 times more often than female adolescents. But to your main point, if you're not insta model hot then don't expect a super hot boyfriend. If you're average go after average men, stay in your lane and you'll be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 02:06 AM
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Because I was drunk, horny and she was there Because she can suck a golf ball through a garden hose Because she'll come over at the drop of a hat. Because she doesn't ask stupid questions like "what are we" Basically they make it easy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 07:23 PM
5

Yet, you call women plates , whores, sluts. That's not fair and just patently untrue I call women much worse
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 06:50 PM
2

Thanks, growing big shoulders is easier than growing a decent personality
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 10:36 PM
8

He had coke
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 06:43 PM
2

I would be extremely impressed. So impressed that I'd poke holes in the condom
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 06:18 PM
3

The real take away is that if you want to run around gargling on the cocks of invading men that are killing your family and country men you better be sure those invaders win.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 02:39 PM
5

I like being approached by all sorts of women, ugly or hot doesn't make a difference to me. It's flattering and flirting in fun. However I'll only actually go out with women I'm actually interested in. No amount of approaching first can change that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 01:20 PM
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If we're talking about some Minority report situation where we caught everyone we're all going to prison. Most common lie: "I'm single" Most common women specific lie: "I never do this" For men: "I'm 6' tall"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 03:12 PM
1

I'm saying it's that way in both the US and in Europe
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 05:00 PM
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If you go to a club and just stand off and talk to your friends of course you're not going to see it. You're a man, you've still got to actively look for it You've got to go to the meat market type places, you've got to be social and actively try to meet new women and you're still going to go home alone more often than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 04:11 PM
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It's there if you go out and actively look for it. Go bar hopping or clubbing every weekend and filter for sluts on dating apps and you'll see it. But the same is true in Europe
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 03:51 PM
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In my view this pressure will just make you feel like she's fucking you for the wrong reasons and isn't really into you. This is the exact reason they don't want to be betabucks. They don't want to be with a woman fucking them in exchange for being provided for, they want a woman that'll fuck them because she's sexually attracted to them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 07:34 PM
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Because women think they want it. It's not a test, these women really believe that they want a man that's emotionally open. But then reality hits them in the face and they might not be able to handle it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 08:07 PM
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I don't think it's an attractiveness thing. My generation just doesn't really so condoms. I can count on one hand the number of woman that have wanted me to use a condom, normally protection doesn't get brought up at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 03:25 AM
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I just had this argument with my gf about a colleague of mine I think is hot Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 03:59 PM
4

There is an strong sense of revulsion at the thought of fucking a dude. But a lack of complete disgust doesn't mean there is actual attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 10:24 PM
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What's your advice for women to vet men out who aren't interested in them as a person? Make him actually invest in you, don't date newly reformed party boys, make him take you on three or four dates first and I mean real dates that require actual effort and planning, ask yourself if you really like him for him or if you just like the way he looks, actions>>>>words, don't fall for obvious bullshit. At least you get to have an orgasm. And that's the thing with always getting one, we don't really v…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 09:38 PM
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Men have to be somewhat sexually attracted in order to perform (right?). I promise you I'm not sexually attracted to my hand. This is something women will never get about us, we don't have to be sexually attracted to fuck a woman If a man has awesome sex (common) he makes excuses not to commit to her and ensure he can continue having awesome sex. "Awesome sex" is incredibly rare for men as well. Passable sex is extremely common
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 09:27 PM
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Have you tried telling your hoes that time isn't actually linear? I always found it interesting how promiscuous women who dated me would get upset that "all I wanted to do was fuck other hoes" but....that's all they did before they met me? Like damn hypocritical much? We only experience time in a linear fashion due to the limits of the human mind, so you fucking other hoes while in a relationship is exactly the same as her fucking other dudes before she met you. Start enlightening your hoes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:00 PM
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Personal experience shows me that women that have a large amount of casual sex with strangers tend to also be bat shit insane and have other underlying issues It's not that having casual sex means they don't value themselves, it's that women that don't value themselves may seek out endless casual sex to get that validation. I'd say the same is true for men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 09:40 PM
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You don't have to have close contact, just look at the average dude under the age of 40. men who don't shower, don't wash and change their clothes, don't leave their game consoles long enough to even take a walk, and more horrifyingly, don't even wipe their asses properly. Also this wouldn't horrify or drive you away you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 03:45 PM
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Or you could just go outside Just look at the millennial/gen z dudes. Do they look or smell like men that never shower or do basic hygiene
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 03:25 PM
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Do you really think those stories are true? The idea that there is a sizeable number of men that don't shower, don't work, don't wipe their ass and have a girl friend that takes care of everything for them is insane and completely unbelievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 03:14 PM
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men will fuck anything that moves This combined with the fact that women are turned on by power and status in a way that men aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 12:30 AM
12

Could you elaborate on traditional values Standard family oriented traditional western ideals. Focus on family first, high value placed on personal responsibility and loyalty, willingness to work hard, duty to contribute positively to society instead of just leeching off it and all that jazz. As for if my kids should get married, if they want kids of their own I think they absolutely should. It's mainly to give the kids an increased sense of stability when they're young and to demonstrate that h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 07:36 PM
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Because I want kids Once you have kids with a woman marrying them adds verry little additional risk. It's going to be near impossible to find a high value women that has traditional values and will be okay with never marrying. Sets a good example for the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 07:09 PM
4

Hyper masculinity is also relative, and depends on cultural standards. Physical dimorphism is largely dependent on genetics. That takes generations upon generations to change and is still subject to human limitations. For example no about of genetic gifts will make a man as muscular as Arnold without lifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 07:15 PM
1

"alpha" is relative
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 07:05 PM
14

Women I don't have an issue with a woman's sexual history, unless it's super extreme. But I'd be very concerned if her sexual history was predominantly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 01:24 PM
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I'd like commitment, not a guy spinning multiple women for shits and giggles, in a way it feels pretty degrading. Then filter for guys who want to commit to you. Only go out with men that take you in real dates. Don't date newly reformed party boys. Make him wait a few dates for sex. Take a step back and ask yourself if you really like him as a person or just the way he looks. Be careful about guys that promise too much too soon. Also watch out for men that are altering their personality for you…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 01:21 PM
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Women are taught almost from the day they're born to change. From childhood onwards we see ads for weight loss pills, Botox, body shape changing braces. Tween girls use creams to lessen the stretch marks that come with pubterty, high school girls are already trying to prevent wrinkles. Most girls start doing makeup before they start puberty. Anorexia is a crisis in teen and young adult women. Most women paint their faces on a daily basis. 67% of women are overweight. So there's clearly not that …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 09:19 PM
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It's more about the lack of intimacy and romantic connections than it is about just a lack of sex I completely agree that sex/intimacy/romantic connections aren't needs but wants. But in our culture other wants continue to be pushed as major issues that need to be addressed, so it makes sense that men that have this want are going to start speaking up
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 05:45 PM
5

Then why move there? If the west is equal to or worse than their home countries why are they moving to western countries?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:41 PM
10

The tone is positive, I purposefully picked a pro immigration source. But the number speak for themselves The public sector costs resulting from this inflow remain high. Federal expenditures allotted to asylum seekers stood at €20.8 billion (USD$23.6 billion) in 2018, or a little more than 6 percent of the entire federal budget. While between 8,500 and 10,000 refugees entered the German labor force each month in 2018, researchers project that some 50 percent of the recent refugees will still be …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:04 PM
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https://wenr.wes.org/2019/08/the-state-of-refugee-integration-in-germany-in-2019 Come on now
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:51 PM
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They've made it very clear that they only care about what's in the woman's best interests and couldn't care less about how it impacts any man This seems consistent with that mission statement
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 08:29 PM
3

You've never seen men mocking mumble rappers or idiots with face tattoos? I mean that rapper specifically is mocked incessantly for being a snitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 08:24 PM
3

Old people like to make fun of pop culture aimed at teens It has nothing to do with wanting to bang middle schoolers, that's insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 08:18 PM
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Would this indicate that for a their talk of career women actually prefer staying at home if it was practical Wouldn't everybody? There is a certain point that one partner is bringing in such a low percentage of the household income that it doesn't make sense for them to work. Even if the man makes the 1% minimum of 420k and the woman is pulling in 100k, she's still making less than 20% of the family's total income. Is it really worth it for her to work full time instead of taking care of the ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 02:46 PM
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All the pills are drastically over complicating things Get as hot as you reasonably can, do cool things and don't be afraid to make a move on women you're interested in. That's 99% of the equation
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 02:33 AM
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It's just a case of women wanting it all They want a man that has all the positive traits of her current husband/boyfriend plus he cooks and cleans and does all these extra things. And they believe it's society's job to provide them with such a man
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 11:11 PM
1

Am I missing the graph were it breaks it down by married breadwinners with children? I'm seeing age and country filters but nothing like that. That site is freaking out on mobile so I may be missing it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 10:53 PM
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The only studies I've seen on that counted single moms as breadwinners
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 10:42 PM
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You making the point that women are a net loss to society with the amount they take out. My point is, perhaps women can start paying more taxes if men actually pull their weight in the domestic sphere. I think you're putting the chicken before the egg. Women do more, especially in regards to childcare, largely because they make less than their male partner. So when it comes time to take off work to do personal family tasks it makes sense for the partner that earns less to be the one to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 09:45 PM
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I think it's just an example of a woman wanting it all. "I want a man that has all the positive traits my husband/boyfriend current has plus he cooks and cleans and does all these extra things. And I want society to step up and provide that man for me" And I'll hold you, but only if you do half of the dishes after.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 09:25 PM
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We're just talking past each other at this point. I get that women do more housework than men, no dispute there. Here's the point of contention, I don't think the personal decisions of how to split the chores in a relationship is something that other people should care about or have a say in. So what steps do you think society should take I regards to this? Because I don't see one that isn't a massive governmental overstep
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 09:21 PM
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You aren't listening. I am listening to you. I just don't consider other people's personal relationships to be any of my business. Women do TWICE the amount of unpaid labour as men. That is a personal decision these women are making about their personal relationship. Cleaning up someone ELSES mess, doesn't benefit me AT ALL, DUH. Then don't do it. No one is holding a gun to your head. Given how much this affects women and the relationship between the sexes, I'd say it is a societal one. Do you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 08:54 PM
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Yes, doing housework for the house you live in is a personal thing that you directly benefit from. If you have a problem with how the housework is distributed in your relationship that's a personal issue not a societal one. Other people aren't going to pay you an allowance to pick up after your significant other
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 08:37 PM
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How women choose to spend their free time is up to them. I'll never understand why women think society at large should pay them for doing things that benefit themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 08:17 PM
10

Let's not blame children for women being bums
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 08:11 PM
8

What does this have to do with anything I just said?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 08:10 PM
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How do you subsidize the female gender? By being net tax gains while women are net tax burdens we pay taxes too You take out a lot more than you put in our health insurance fees pays for viagra which you now need under 30 as porn addicts, It's the inverse, men subsidize women's healthcare. It's actually codified into law and that's not to mention all the jails that have to house and feed u bc you can't calm down. And even with that men are still net tax gains Your little few dollars to a woman k…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:05 PM
11

Once the future net tax contributions of their children are accounted for Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:00 PM
14

But he was really tall and handsome
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:19 PM
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Nowadays though, women can make their own money Awesome When are y'all going to start actually doing this though? I'm getting tired of having to subsidize your gender
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:19 PM
1

What? She's worth 85 mill, of course she's high value
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:22 PM
1

net worth of 85 million Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:19 PM
3

It's a direct response to the mainstream culture continuing to expect us to care about increasing stupid social "issues" Keep screeching about problems no one in their right mind should care about and other people are liable to start doing the same
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:36 PM
2

It's not like finding a unicorn. Over 90% of people get married at some point in their lives. And what "I'm afraid of commitment" actually means is "I don't want to commit to you specifically"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:07 PM
3

A chad-lite with a great personality can get a giga-Stacy wife in a heartbeat while most giga-Stacies have to struggle to get commitment, emotional support and loyalty from their looksmatch A Stacy on the other hand don’t have have an army of chads and high tier normies that will fight to be chosen as her caring, sweet, protective husband Average looking men can also easily get commitment and love from women that are just 1-2 point above them and they know it I think your perception of attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 02:57 PM
0

I have. They put up with being treated like shit because all of their standards were appearance based
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 03:45 PM
1

having low standards or a bad 'picker' Their problem isn't having "low" standards, it's having the wrong standards. Their standards ara sky high, just in the wrong areas
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 03:39 PM
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You explicitly asked them to tell you what your flaws are. Of course the men were "critical" you asked them to be. I don't know what you expected to happen
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 02:53 AM
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I know the whole "will fuck but won't commit to a black woman" is a thing too
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 10:53 PM
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Black women don't struggle because they're black, it's because they're the fattest female demographic Fit and sane black chicks have zero issues
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 10:39 PM
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It's appropriating Jewish culture
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 09:54 PM
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I'm shocked that a man that looks like that would do such a thing If you can trust a man with ratty facial hair, forearm tats and bead bracelets then who can you trust
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 07:13 PM
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Everyone knows you don't mock women about how much sex they've had You mock them on who they've had it with
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 06:34 PM
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That is always the answer for you isn't it. Yeah, I'll tell anyone that's never been on a date that their standards are too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 06:06 PM
3

Spanish Give me a Latina women that'll wave her hands in my face and cut me off mid sentence by saying "no no no you are such an asshole no"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 05:57 PM
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It's because they drastically overestimate how well their male friends do and underestimate how much effort they put in. My chick friends think I'm some Casanova thats just naturally like this. They don't see the times a strike out horribly, the times I feel alone and they have no idea the amount of effort I put into myself
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 05:50 PM
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Numbers say white women. Personally I'm more of a Latina or middle eastern kinda guy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 05:46 PM
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I'm very slim and I have never had a date. Sounds like your standards are way too high if you've "never" been on a date Or every man on the face of the Earth is a racist One of the two
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 05:18 PM
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That's not because of "racists" It's because black women have the highest obesity rate. Fit black women have zero issue finding a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 04:46 PM
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ATTRACTIVE man of color and he'd still fall all over her lmao. moc are the ultimate simps The amount of good looking black dudes I see with below average white women is insane to me. I legit don't get it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 04:41 PM
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If wild vs vanilla sex doesn't matter then why not just do the wild shit to keep your man happy? It's all the same after all
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 04:03 PM
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White men typically look like raw chicken cutlets naked You say that like y'all don't love chicken
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:49 PM
2

Are you implying that I'm not a real woman sharing her real thoughts and opinions? How dare you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:19 PM
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What was your best sexual experince with a man and what made it so good? What did he do that was mind blowingly incredible? He was hot What is the sexiest thing a man has told you inside the bedroom and outside the bedroom? I'm 6'4" and make 243k. What is something that a men did that was a huge turn-on to you? Not be poor and ugly ​
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:13 PM
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most liked to be dominated in the bedroom. That's all women, feminist or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:03 PM
4

Tell me more about how I'm basically Vegeta
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:00 PM
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As a woman I am entitled to every single penny a man makes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:05 PM
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It's wild to me that your purge posts are indistinguishable from your normal posts
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 08:01 PM
10

By then the guy has more than likely said something to turn her off, or she had sex w him sober and realized he's horrible, etc..... I hate what he says, how he fucks and can only stomach him when I'm shit tanked. But like why doesn't he want to have a close intimate bond with me you guys
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 07:05 PM
3

Wait do men actually fall for the "babe, I'd love to but you're too big for me teehee" line
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 06:53 PM
1

I went to college at a state school, I've been out of that closest for a while now
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 06:52 PM
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It was really brave of you to come out of the closet like this! You have my full support
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 06:45 PM
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((American))
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 06:30 PM
20

Incels are super left wing. They're basically sexual communists
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 06:27 PM
4

The overwhelming majority of visits were done via mobile devices. With 76.6% of all visits done via mobile device. Visits via computer dropped 18%. This is weird as shit to me. Why on Earth would you watch porn on your phone instead of your computer?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 06:02 PM
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A part of being socially aware is being able to see what people around you are doing right and copying them. That's actually part of the problem. They try to copy the attractive men and it doesn't work because they're not attractive. Ugly man game is so different than hot man game But why is he blaming his superior intelligence for his failure with women? Because it makes him feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 03:48 PM
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I agree that nerds don't struggle because they're too smart. However they also don't struggle because they lack social intelligence. They struggle because they're physically unattractive and don't enjoy going out. So you've got an ugly dude that doesn't put himself in a position to meet single women, of course he struggles
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 03:33 PM
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Do you think their is a gender difference in how mentally unwell men and women are treated and how their partners handle it or is it more to do with the individual? This really depends on how the mental instability manifests itself. For example a man with anxiety will struggle romantically while a man with anger issues won't have any problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 05:08 PM
2

5'6"ish barefoot to 5'10"ish with lifts
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 01:36 AM
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Three to four inches for the most part. It really depended on the shoe though, some styles can handle a lot more lift than others
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 01:11 AM
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It had nothing to do with confidence, in fact I was probably less confident at first. They're a bit weird to walk until you get used to it People were nicer, I got service at bars faster, I had small things like coffee or parking comped, a bunch of unsolicited compliments, women would instigate flirting instead it having to be the other way around, women would also come up with excuses to start conversation with me and a whole bunch of other benefits. Really opened my eyes to just how important …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 01:10 AM
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I own shoe lifts. Originally got them for job interviews but I have used them for dating. They make a world of difference and not just in dating but in how people treat you on every facet of life. I wouldn't recommend them if you're looking for a long term partner, but if you're just looking to get laid then shoe lifts are single biggest way to raise your smv, nothing else even comes close.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:30 PM
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Guys will put effort into banging hot women Guys want to bang hot women at 9:30pm not just 2:30am
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 05:24 PM
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It also covers making impulsive decisions. Which is what banging an uggo was
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 05:19 PM
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You're mixing up low inhibitions and masculinity. When I was younger I'd have no problem railing some uggo if no hottie was available. But it wasn't because I was some super manly man, I was just super impulsive and the uggos required zero effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 05:08 PM
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This comment is just wrong because it acts as if every guy, except for the “hot” ones, are nice, normal human beings. The man's "hotness" is completely irrelevant to his point. He judges women for consistently choosing assholes, that has nothing to do with the man's physical appearance
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 06:14 PM
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I want to clarify something I do think disrespecting a short guy is unacceptable. This is what most non incel types have an issue with. I don't care about women's height requirements. I do care when they go on and on about how short men are disgusting or not real men or how they think we shouldn't be allowed to be seen in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 02:28 PM
1

So what all do I owe a woman after sleeping with her? Is there some comprehensive list
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 03:50 PM
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Sure they're discussed more But what percentage of men actually dig into and obsess over women's issues more than incels? Some of these dudes spend hours every day talking about women and feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 07:51 PM
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Yet this idealization of physical beauty is something that many other countries and societies find vain and superficial. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 07:35 PM
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On the flip side wouldn't that mean that the incels care deeply about women's issues? Not that it really matters. Incels want women to romantically love them, and nothing else will ever get them to shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 07:00 PM
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I wish both genders would care more about vetting who they have kids with, having a reasonable amount of kids and start putting a real effort into raising the resulting kids. This wouldn't do much for me immediately but long term it would do wonders for society as a whole. Poverty and crime rates would free fall
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:15 PM
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Aggression and dominance are highly rewarded by society
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 07:07 PM
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Their girlfriends. I've only heard women describe women as intimidating
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 07:04 PM
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I tend to date type A women with good careers that fit the "intimidating" label. It's not that men are intimidated by them it's that they can be very difficult to deal with if you're not used to it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 06:55 PM
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And you won't pay it if she makes a comprable income The rule isn't "don't get married" it's "don't marry a broke bitch"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 05:07 PM
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Kids? You can have kids outside of marriage without being social ostracized like in years past - PLUS, you won’t face the threat of alimony and having half of your assets gutted in a divorce if having children is what you REALLY want. Remember: 50% DIVORCE RATE - 70% OF WHICH ARE FILED BY WOMEN If you want to have kids and the mother is in a similar economic situation you're better off getting married. You won't get gutted or have to pay alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 02:52 PM
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It's a waste of time when one party thinks it has potential to be a long term relationship while the other party knows it's not going to happen Male late 20s red
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 05:30 PM
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The way I'm using the terms Dating comes with the possiblity of a long term relationship Hanging out doesn't
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 03:07 PM
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Relationship guy:whole package Fun guy: hot but insufferable or not attractive enough to date but good enough to fuck and fun to hang out with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 02:26 PM
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I'd lose respect for her because I can't respect people that have zero respect for themselves. I'd cut things off for a few reasons. The aforementioned lack of respect, the fact that she's probably a mentally unstable ticking time bomb and because she's clearly very attracted to abusive men and I'll never be that. As for not doing anything to the guy why would I?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 02:07 PM
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If you dated a woman whose ex-boyfriend used to punch her in the face (hard), and she stayed in the relationship and never reported him (because she "loved" him, not out of fear), would you lose respect for her? How serious of a red flag is it? I'd lose all respect I had for her and I'd immediately cut things off. This is one of my few hard deal breakers And, if you knew who the guy was, would you do anything about it? Lol, fuck no
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 01:55 PM
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Yeah, they jump from short "relationship" to "relationship" and tend to constantly complain about how "men ain't shit." If someone, of either gender, can't lock down a long term partner it's almost always because they're delusional about their relationship value
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 11:59 PM
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I get that's how a lot of women treat each other, but men aren't women and you can't treat us like we're women. Just like I can't treat my chick friends the exact same way I treat my male friends. Try to rip down a man's emotional walls and he's either going to withdraw or fall in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 08:27 PM
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Some combination of Dumping your emotions and problems on someone too frequently Pushing the other person to open up more emotionally
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 08:01 PM
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“hey, how are you, how are the people in your life, what have you been doing?” Yes, that's exactly what I mean when I say "crossing emotional boundaries." Thanks for the good faith input
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 07:28 PM
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The second paragraph seems to imply that it’s the woman’s fault for treating you cordially, thereby causing attraction from you, I.e., we should not be friends/friendly to men we don’t want to fuck. How did you get that from. If you can't keep any platonic male friends it's probably because you're constantly crossing emotional boundaries. Women that are constantly complaining about their male friends falling for them also tend to be far too emotionally open with their platonic male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 07:22 PM
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It's an interaction involving two people
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 06:50 PM
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So if I enjoy a woman's company, find her interesting and think we'd be a good fit romantically why wouldn't I want to fuck or date her? If you can't keep any platonic male friends it's probably because you're constantly crossing emotional boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 06:20 PM
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Male sexism against women, even just perceived sexism, is reviled and shunned. Blatant female sexism against men, on the other hand, is celebrated by demented feminists and pushed into the mainstream. Yeah, so you do get why most people have an issue with trp.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 05:52 PM
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From the side bar Women, the most responsible teenager in the house How to train bitches It's considered sexist to expect women to pay taxes on shit they buy and people are wondering why trp gets the reaction it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 05:16 PM
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It's a big deal because of all the blatant sexism. I'm a redpiller but let's stop being purposefully obtuse about why people have an issue with us.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 04:54 PM
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A lot of people say that women aren't visual aroused like men are What this actually means is that women project all sorts of positive traits onto men they find visually appealing. They then claim it's those projected traits they're actually attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 01:28 PM
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Get laid: 95% Effortlessly spin plates: less than 5%
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 01:52 PM
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No, I wouldn't date an unhinged lunatic. I've dated similar and it's exhausting. Also these types of women tend to be the opposite of "ride or die" they're as fickle as their emotional stability. But some men do prefer less extreme versions of the woman you're describing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 04:35 PM
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a Chad with a shit personality would do worse than a 7/10 with an amazing personality. This is what he's talking about. The shit personality Chad would drastically outperform the 7 with an amazing personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 07:42 PM
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Do whatever, be as selective or as indiscriminate as you want. I just don't want to have to foot the bill for her shitty choices in men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 09:05 PM
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Yeah, women will always have an easier time getting laid. Has anyone ever argued differently? I myself find older women extremely attractive- they have a different kind of curvaceousness going on. Side question, what's with all the closested lesbians posting here?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 07:56 PM
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I know right That's a surefire way for your wife to find out about her
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 08:16 PM
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I don't have an insta so my input is a bit biased, but I've found it's normally because they want to make sure you're actually single. However the influencer type you're describing may just be fishing for followers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 08:13 PM
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That's a fantastic opinion and I fully agree Let's stop subsidizing women and let natural selection fully play out!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 05:47 PM
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if the slut dresses trashy, or sleeping with guys in an insanely short amount of time You're right, slut shaming someone because her skirt is too short is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 02:16 PM
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More like If the government is going to redistribute by money by force I'd rather it go to universal healthcare and education than wars in the middle East and corporate hand outs
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 01:47 AM
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Make her laugh Doesn't matter Make her comfortable Also doesn't matter Make her want your validation Make her want to be special to you. These can be summed up as "make her want you but making her want you"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 08:27 PM
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I got bored of it in my mid twenties. Although it wasn't the hooking up that got boring, it was the lifestyle that came with it that I got burned out on. Although I was always more about short term flings than strictly one night stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 03:16 PM
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Makeup sure Flattering hair and clothes, obviously not
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 02:32 PM
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The average woman is definitely not well dressed
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 02:16 PM
2

And what do you think the average woman is?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 01:57 PM
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You're drastically overestimating the quality of the average woman. An average woman, while not a supermodel, is still a woman. She has breasts, curves and softness; all universally pleasing to the eye. We have an obesity crisis, the average woman's body isn't "universally pleasing to the eye"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 01:56 PM
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I sort of agree, just making good money doesn't do much unless you're stupid rich. But having some extra cash to throw around and do cool stuff with definitely helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 05:30 PM
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Your title is on point But the rest of your post is chock full of crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 10:27 PM
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It's because the cool pretty boy look is extremely reliant on genetics while the generic macho man look can be built It's like the "lifting is overrated" threads that pop up sometimes. Sure there are other more important traits but theyre genetic so you either have em or you don't
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 04:09 AM
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But that's in the past, isn't it? What can she do so it stops being gross? Yeah and if I decide to go out and roll around in pig shit tonight it'll be something that happened in the past by tomorrow morning. That doesn't make it any less gross I've seen 3 of my classmates who followed and have a wonderful relationship with their families and don't story of any sorts of abuse and mind you that one of them is muslim, now let that one sink in. And?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 12:44 AM
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Why is it gross? Because choking on the cock of any man that's willing to throw you a few bucks is gross How can you just assume that they are fucked in the head? Because most are, and that's before you get into the substance abuse issues that often accompany the lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 12:24 AM
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I'm not sure why you're putting slutty women in the same category as hookers and pornstars. But the answer to your question its because it's gross and the vast majority of them are fucked in the head
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 12:11 AM
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Most male social circles aren't strict hierarchies, so there is no such thing as "clearly better." We all have roles and we know what they are
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 11:11 PM
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This isn't how men work, we don't look at other men and think "he's better than me in every way" "Chad" is clearly better than me at getting women, I'm better in other areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 10:58 PM
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I'm a 7 on this scale And so is 95% of the population
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 06:19 PM
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"Do exactly what I want"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 07:21 PM
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It's just that most single mothers live in dysfunctional neighborhoods and in cycles of poverty There are plenty of studies that control for those variables.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 11:55 PM
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OP is about mothers But what about the men!!!!!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 11:53 PM
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Did you just skip the first three words of my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 11:47 PM
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So you do get why it matters
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 11:19 PM
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Why we think roughly 25% of kids being raised in a dysfunctional environment matters? Look at the stats for children from single parents homes. Shits horrifying
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 11:05 PM
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making sure you dont end up with a dysfunctional human As a whole single mothers do a terrible at this part.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 10:54 PM
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A lot of men posting here are younger so they're more interested in casual flings than long term dating. Add to that they also don't have a lot of dating experience so that haven't actually dated a hot but bitchy woman. Do that a few times and most men learn that the juice isn't worth the squeeze
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 05:33 PM
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Women drastically overestimate how much looks matter and underestimate how much personality matters when men pick long term partners
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 03:18 PM
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Most men end up having kids So both above and below average men reproduce
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 03:13 PM
3

By being hot He's terrible at giving you advice because hot guys operate with a different set of rules
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 10:04 PM
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Then there is a decent chance he'll get tired of putting up with your outbursts further down the line Only mentally unstable men can flourish in an unstable relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 07:29 PM
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Slight nitpick. We want chill low maintenance girls, but we can start to take them for granted in a way the crazy high maintenance girls won't allow us to do. But from a women's perspective that's a meaningless distinction I’m not sure that this is sustainable, but when I’m upset, even if it’s unreasonable, I let him know and it feels good This however is a real downside. It's not sustainable for most non crazy men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 07:14 PM
20

Why do so many posters here insist on shoehorning rape into every post?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 06:03 PM
10

Exactly right. The male physical body on its own is not attractive to most women. The sex act for women (unlike for men) is a very holistic experience, in the sense that it involves the whole body. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 04:17 PM
5

Not at all, it's the right move
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 06:33 PM
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They got lonely and thought they could use you for entertainment until they found someone they actually want to be with That's it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 06:21 PM
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Because women's definition of "good man" is what trp would call alpha bucks. How many alpha bucks do you know that want to settle down and haven't?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 10:25 PM
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She's right When men describe a good man it's about morals, or at least the morals men value When women talk about good men they mean a man they'd want to marry It's just different definitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 09:26 PM
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Drastically different definitions of what constitutes being a "good man"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 08:54 PM
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I agree with your overall premise. Women love to act like out of shape tall men are these super powerful freak athletes. But these aren't the best examples. These are fit dudes that are dehydrated, have a pump, some make up and are shot under great lighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 05:51 PM
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I'd also like to add that taking advice from crazy misanthropes isn't the best idea
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 10:58 PM
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Assuming you mean physical attractiveness that's off base I'm fact being nothing more than a pretty validation machine with no spine is a great way to get stuck in a relationship of convenience
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 10:35 PM
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This is not very important because culturally, what matters to men is something drilled into women since they are little girls. What do you think matters to men, by that I mean what do you think we value when it comes time to picking a serious long term partner? Because from what I've seen most women don't really get it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 10:06 PM
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There is a huge gap between "not being forthcoming" and being bitchy or two faced. I can only speak for what I've seen as a third-party observer. Maybe your experience has been different
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 10:03 PM
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In what ways is FDS bad? Overall it's good advice for what the women claim they want, although I have my doubts they actually want a "hvm". But it does have two big weak points. They have a tendency to go overboard and over correct for their past behavior There is little to no attention paid to ways a woman can make herself more attractive as a partner. Although this point is only a problem for some of the posters
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 09:58 PM
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Some men are just assholes that lash out when their egos are hurt That being said the only women I know in real life that complain about this happening constantly are women that are bitchy and two-faced themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 09:26 PM
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It's the exact opposite. These women spent their whole lives desperately hurling themselves at men that didn't care enough to put in any effort This is them trying to rewire the type of man they want
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 05:41 PM
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Their problem isn't being ethnic, it's being fat. The reason black women are disproportionately represented is because they have the highest obesity rate amoung dating age women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 04:37 PM
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She's got glasses, and a ponytail. Ugh
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 04:48 PM
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Katie Holmes or Cariad Lloyd (a british comedian) are middle tier in SMV (about a 5/10). As a lean/normal weight guy who is a 5/10 Here's your problem. I don't know what you look like but I promise you you're not on the same tier as Katie Holmes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 04:09 PM
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You don't get to decide whether or not to consent to a baby after you make one And we're back to "that slut should have kept her legs shut" for men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 02:19 AM
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Man you not only missed the entire point of my comment you reenforced it Are you forgetting that you put your dick between her legs and shot your sperm at her eggs? Maybe it's you that should have kept your pants zipped. After all, you are the one who isn't willing to care for the baby that results. I was highlighting the absurdity of your comment, either consenting to sex is consenting to a baby or it isn't. You don't get to flip flop based on the person's gender If she has the baby she will lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 11:02 PM
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Like be in a weird subculture, dye my hair, stuff like that? That's one way to do it. One of my buddies for example is handsome, tall and built but has a high and tight hair hair cut with tattoos on the side of his head. The other way is mostly genetic, I'm short and I've had my fair share of women that were down to fuck but would never date me because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 10:56 PM
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Uglys the wrong word "attractive and interesting in a socially unacceptable way" is a better way to phrase it, but that's so long to type Celibacy it is. Sounds like a measured and healthy outlook
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 09:34 PM
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Be ugly but fun Or hot but insufferable
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 09:27 PM
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It's artificially reduces the cost of having a child she can't afford with a man that doesn't want it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:58 PM
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I'm not sure encouraging women to kill their fetuses if they can't afford to raise kids is good policy. Seems better than actively encouraging them to have kids they can't afford with a man that doesn't want them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:50 PM
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The bottom line here is that you have chosen to risk becoming a father. Now you have a kid, and it's not ok to abandon him/her Aka, the slut should have kept her legs shut. I love watching women suddenly start spouting hardcore pro life rhetoric the second they think they may lose access to a man's money
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:45 PM
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In accord with current legal reality
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 07:56 PM
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Women's "courting strategies" seem enigmatic and confusing to guys like me Then don't worry about it so much. If your interested make a move and see what happens. Don't get all caught up in the internet hype. Most women have zero problem with a man showing interest as long as he takes a no and moves on
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 07:19 PM
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You say that like women don't have complete unilateral control on what happens post pregnancy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 07:16 PM
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That argument would hold water if women don't have complete unilateral control on what happens post pregnancy. Women want full reproductive control then they should get the full responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 07:16 PM
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It's not that they suck, it's that it not going to be consistent. I've had women that made out with me that had zero interest in me. And I've had women actively avoided me who turned out to be interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 06:55 PM
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I understand that expecting women to take responsibility for their actions instead of relying on men to bail them out sounds ludicrous But what can I say, I'm full of revolutionary ideas
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 06:50 PM
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The status quo has men paying more in taxes and women taking in more in government welfare. Convient for women to ignore systematic issues that just so happen to drastically benefit them. Yet when the shoe is on the other foot y'all have meltdowns
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 05:29 PM
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Stop with the constant wealth distribution from men to women. Cut back the gibs for single mothers Make women pay their fair share in taxes Stop making men subsidize women's health insurance
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 05:06 PM
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Approaching no Chasing yes Can't hurt to shoot your shot, but continuing to chase after being rejected is a waste of time
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 03:49 PM
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Neither, it's just part of modern dating. You win some and you lose some
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 02:42 PM
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I'm willing to guess the real baby daddy was broke as shit The government wants it's money and doesn't give a damn about fairness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 06:09 PM
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Don't go over the top hot Dress in a way that both fits the vibe of whatever bar you're going to and highlights your best physical features
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 05:32 PM
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The two classics After you've chatted him up a bit pull him away to dance Tell him you need to step outside for some fresh air or to smoke
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:58 PM
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Being that explicit from the jump kills the fun
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:52 PM
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Five steps: Dress hot Laugh at his dumb jokes Touch his arms Compliment him If it's a friend group thing find an excuse to get him away from everyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:48 PM
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Other than liking dick there is no difference between the gay dudes I know and straight men Not every gay dude acts like an extra from highschool musical
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:15 PM
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mainly date weirdos with deeply troubled relationships with their fathers This explains so much about why you view men the way you do
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 03:42 PM
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I'm short
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 02:45 PM
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Absolutely My biggest weakness is something that doesn't matter for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 02:23 PM
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I've dated 4'10"ish on the short end to 6'3" on the tall end. There are some up and downsides to dating different heights, but as a whole I don't really care
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 03:05 AM
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It's hard in your age in the college environment. Most the "relationships" at that age are just 3 month long flings anyway. But if you're curious here are a few other potential reasons. You're fun to be around but not attractive enough to put a label on Conversely you could be hot but insufferable You're going after women that only want the party life right now
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 07:05 PM
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I’m a 20 year old college guy There you go
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 06:57 PM
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Male looks are more based on genetics than women's So some guys are going to have it super easy while some will have it much harder
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 08:48 PM
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Let me rephrase this Why do men not want to date a woman that isn't attracted to him and won't respect him?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 07:22 PM
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Yes, that is the correct interpretation of my comment
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 09:55 PM
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most people who can't get a good partner can't because they're typically just not good people. This isn't the reason In 99% of cases if someone can't find a partner it's because they're shooting out of their league
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 09:50 PM
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Using someone for sex is more immoral than using someone for dinner That's an awfully convenient stance for women to take
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 09:07 PM
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Dude it's perfectly fine That's just how the game is played. Don't let people shame you for leveraging your strengths
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 08:51 PM
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Most of them don't enjoy going to bars/house parties/concerts/places women go to act slutty. It's easy to be a manwhore if you enjoy the process and are going to have a good time even if you don't take anyone home. But if you don't enjoy going out then the juice doesn't seem worth the squeeze
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 04:02 PM
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I did It's 7 hours a week, not a day. You overstated it by over 40 hours a week. And the divorce rate is less than 56%. So even if we assume every marriage ends because if the husband's porn addiction, which is an insane assumption, you're still off
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 12:56 AM
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on average we spend 7 hours a day on video games, increasing 20% from last year This isn't true. 56% of marriages also ended due to porn addiction in 2019 and we all know men are the porn users here. This is isn't true either
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 12:33 AM
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there are many men who can only live at their parents house or whatever new girl theyre with, cant hold a job, and spend all their time and money on porn, fast food, and video games I'd love to see the statistics on this
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 12:03 AM
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any real life examples where you´ve observed this? A few. One of my buddies is ugly and very reserved, I've heard him described as "creepy" numerous times. I've also heard women say bald/short/black/fat men are creepy as a general statement. would you be creeped out if a women with unusual look started following you or stare at you without breaking eye contact for really long? I've had women follow me or stare at me before. I've also had strange women grab and grope me. I wouldn't call my reacti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 07:49 PM
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They can be, but it takes a lot Black pilled" men often say that creepy means unattractive, as if they never felt uncomfortable or scared of someone. The uglier you are the easier it is to be called creepy. If you're ugly enough some people may be creeped out simply by your existence
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 07:24 PM
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I'm assuming they fixate on online dating in their posts because there is a bunch of data about it while you can't really crunch the numbers on nailing club skanks. There's also some self selection going on. Some guys do better online and some do better in person, but those guys just shrug their shoulders and focus on the avenue they have the most success in. However you also have dudes that are too ugly and/or awkward for either and that's the type of dude that's constantly complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 06:50 PM
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Sure In this case the obese girls problem isn't her entitlement, it's her weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:40 PM
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Yeah, they actually do things. What do you think entitled people do? If you feel entitled to something you're going to go out and try to get it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:24 PM
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They could still find autistic women to be with them. No, socially retarded women still get plenty of attention. Unless you mean clinically autistic, in which case the ratio of men to women is 4:1 WRONG. They're not motivated to actually be better people. We're talking about doing better with women not being a better person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:16 PM
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Those dudes can't get laid for completely unrelated reasons. Mainly being socially retarded and/or ugly. Entitlement kills self doubt, increases motivation and often comes across as being extremely confident
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:03 PM
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It's exactly the opposite Feeling entitled to women only helps
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:47 PM
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Lol These are fantastic
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:42 AM
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Any theories to account for this? They're women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 12:48 AM
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This thought process is true on a macro level, if you can't get anyone to commit you're shooting out of your league But it falls apart on an individual level, just because one particular guy won't commit to a woman doesn't mean he's out of her league
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 10:34 PM
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It normally not lying. It's projection by the woman, the man just doesn't bother to correct her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 07:53 PM
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You're right, that's normally how things start now. But a woman can easily shift things back to dates first and sex later.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 03:37 PM
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I've ignored obvious warning signs for a hot chick before, I know how it is. But it's also not some enigma, I just need to stop thinking with my dick. Just like women need to stop thinking with their pussy if they're so opposed to getting pumped and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 03:15 PM
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It's so obvious to us when another man is just looking to use a woman for sex. It's so obvious we have a hard time believing the woman didn't see the same thing, that's why you're going to get these sorts of answers
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 02:53 PM
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If you really don't want to get pumped and dumped you should wait more than three dates, and I mean real personalized dates that the man is taking the initiative to set up. The problem is most of y'all throw all that out the window when you're really attracted to a man
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 02:51 PM
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The while idea of faking being "dark triad" is dumb, regardless of what the guy looks like. A key part of the whole "dark triad" thing is how charming, charismatic and well adjusted these men seem at first. So instead of trying to cosplay as Patrick Bateman like a weirdo just work on being more charismatic and welcoming. Then flash an edge everyone in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 09:13 PM
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It's amazing how common this thought process is amoung the "men are trash crowd" You'd think one of them would be able to but 2 and 2 together
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 07:34 PM
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Common complaint, I hear it all the time. That's why, like the pink tax, major news outlets are regularly reporting on it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 06:26 PM
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When it's pointlessly gendered for women it's because the evil patriarchy is conspiring to charge women more for no reason When it's pointlessly gendered for men it's because men have fragile egos that must be catered to Thems the rules
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 06:11 PM
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Being tall is desirable for two reasons It triggers feelings of dominance on an instinctual level There is constant social reinforcement that tall is good and short is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 05:25 PM
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Relationship from meeting in person normally start by hooking up at a party or bar and then taking things from there Relationships from online dating normally start with a date or two before having sex. But a date or two isn't nearly long enough to know if I want to seriously date a girl
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 08:08 PM
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By displaying your interest in sex early, you are not playing the dating game. Thus, you are not actually participating in dating - a pre relationship courtship phase. You jump straight to fucking. Thus, probably only fucking. Like I've said, that's not how dating works now, you fuck first and then figure out if you like each other later. But if you're not American maybe your dating culture is different I said simply desire sex (by itself, without a relationship). No one said otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 07:58 PM
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holy shit it was ASTOUNDING how often I saw couples where the woman was thin and smoking hot while the guy had a dad bod at best (usually had a straight up beer belly). Pretty much every girl I saw who was with a man, was with someone who would definitely be considered unattractive by PPD standards Man I need to move to wherever ppd posters live.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 07:21 PM
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Enforced monogamy is a necessity. Projection of monogamy is part of it. Monogamy is enforced for relationships, not early stage dating. My go to line is "I would love to see you naked in my bed". This does nothing to differentiate women you just want to fuck and women you actually want to date. Women start in the first bucket and then some eventually move to the latter Just because your blue pill beliefs don't allow you to think that women can also simply desire sex, doesn't mean they don't. Whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 07:05 PM
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You don't have to be an autist to be open and upfront, but you do have to be one to say "for now all I want with you is to have amazing sex" completely unbidden. We are open and honest. Sometimes y'all just don't like the answer so you project your own desires and weird rules onto us. We live in an enforced monogamy society. Monogamy is the default state of sexual relationships. If you are not letting her know that you are not seeking a relationship you are giving the impression that you are. Li…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 06:51 PM
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Internet 10% body fat is real life 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 06:36 PM
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If you are not letting her know that you are not seeking a relationship you are giving the impression that you are. She then projects her desires onto the man and ignores all signs to the contrary. Lol, there it is Let me ask you this - why do you think most men are not saying to women "for now all I want with you is to have amazing sex"? Because most men aren't autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 06:33 PM
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So why would you promise or give the impression of a relationship if you don't know anything about your desires in that direction? I don't an neither do most men. What happens is the woman wants a serious relationship with the man while the man is either unsure or doesn't want one with the woman. She then projects her desires onto the man and ignores all signs to the contrary. There is no lying or manipulation, it's just a side effect of the modern dating scene. I've been more into women than th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 06:18 PM
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That completely ignores how dating works today. I'm getting to know and sleeping with multiple women at once. I have no idea if I want more than just sex until I've gotten to know the woman better. Once I figure out what I want I push the relationship in that direction. And women are doing the exact same thing on their end. I get how this can result in mismatched expectations and cause hurt feelings, on both sides, but it's not manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 06:06 PM
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The posters
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 05:21 PM
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What about it is manipulative? I get the feeling we have different definitions of "spinning plates"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 05:19 PM
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How important is it to be naturally attractive, without even trying at all? It makes things at lot easier, and those sorts of men will have much higher ceilings. When it comes to physical appearance I have friends whose floor is higher than my ceiling, but that doesn't mean I'm hopeless. You gotta maximize what you have. Does trying hard make you LESS attractive, instead of more? It only makes you less attractive if she knows you're trying to impress women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 05:14 PM
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That's just how dating works now. You casually date multiple women until you find one you want to seriously date. Sure trp are being needlessly douchey and autistic about the whole thing, but what else is new
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 05:01 PM
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It's not real. Women definitely use men for sex, but they almost never say it straight to the man's face
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 09:41 PM
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Both As a general rule men chase and women chose from amount the men chasing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 08:39 PM
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Lol "If you'd fuck her you'd also better be willing to raise another man's kid or you're a hypocrite"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:12 PM
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Men are definitely the gender behind most of the evil in the world. We're also overwhelming responsible for most of the good.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:09 PM
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Fds is just chick locker room talk. The overarching theme of their advice is solid and will work. They just get a bit too caught up in the "yo go girl" aspect of it and go a bit over board sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 09:42 PM
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Only 25% are completely shit out of luck on tinder. Not being attractive can be worked around by highlighting your positive attributes and having your pictures project a certain image
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 03:11 PM
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/economy/2019/03/20/how-much-federal-funding-each-state-receives-government/39202299/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 06:02 PM
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Cali now costs more in federal aid than they pay into the system
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 05:50 PM
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The neckbeards cosplaying as women in rpw are probably c cups at least
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 09:50 PM
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Lol, sucks to be ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 08:49 PM
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Poor white people
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 07:38 PM
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First you start smoking weed Then you try one of your buddy's thc pods Next thing you know you're vaping mango flavored juul pods
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 07:31 PM
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Because incels only want Chad. They've been very clear about this
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 07:02 PM
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I'm pretty sure it's because Asian men are short and black women are fat. The tall Asian dudes and fit black chicks I know have zero problem dating
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 07:01 PM
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How on Earth does women wanting to fuck a super hot pilot go against anything trp says?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 06:56 PM
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That line in particular would never work
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 06:09 PM
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If it make you feel better I just assume the woman was over exaggerating when describing the man's behavior and completely leaving out her own shitty behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 04:48 PM
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Men don't think only Chad's fuck women over. Men think that only Chad's can consistently treat a woman like shit and have her stick around
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 04:42 PM
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Where are you going to meet women right now, are you going to bars in the city or are you going to places in the suburbs?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 01:33 AM
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Nothing below the belt, no eye gouging and no grabbing the cage. Standard domestic violence rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 12:23 AM
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They will if they had fun and want to see her again. Sure she'll have a hard time getting hotties to wine and dine her. But she could get a fellow uggo to no problem
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 11:09 PM
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Why the fuck did this suddenly become a thing people argue about If I want to see a woman for a second date I pick up the tab. If I don't want to see her again I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 11:01 PM
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Three things The saying is 20% of men get 80% of female attention. Not 20% of men are fathering 80% of the kids. Basically everyone reproduces, there is no culling mechanism. Alpha vs beta is relative
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 10:17 PM
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Being handsome absolutely helps with locking down relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 02:53 PM
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I can give you the ugly but high status male view on this. I pick the pretty women because why wouldn't I. I'm not sure why you think unattractive women are more successful or self sufficient than attractive ones. I've found that young driven women also tend to take care of their appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 02:49 PM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-50805822 Earlier this week
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 06:09 PM
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Man, you think I'd put up with these hoes if I had a choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 04:53 PM
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I have zero interest in dating a lesbian that's been forced into the closet via extreme social pressure
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 06:22 PM
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Lol "You're so mature for your age" and "age is just a number" all in the same comment
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 02:47 PM
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have daddy issues or are sluts who will fuck any dick. Don't threaten me with a good time
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 02:33 PM
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By how she treats him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 07:25 PM
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Tldr: REEEEEEEEE
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 02:19 PM
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Men and women were also pretty close in agreement on ideal male body shapes. The images you see at the left of each pair, above, were designed by women. They set a preferred ideal man at a BMI of 24.5, a waist-to-hip ratio of .86 and a waist-to-chest ratio of .77. The ideal set by the men (not shown) was a BMI of 25.9, a waist-to-hip ratio of .87 and a waist-to-chest ratio of .74. Men seemed pretty spot on here
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 08:33 PM
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That's a lot of words to say "no we don't"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 06:21 PM
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You pick men that treat you like shit. And until to come to terms with your picker being off nothing will ever change. You'll keep doing the same shit and dating the same type, only difference is you'll get a few free meals along the way
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 06:11 PM
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Do y'all take responsibility for anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 06:07 PM
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Y'all's definition of high value and the red pills definition of high value are so far apart it's pointless to have this talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 04:39 PM
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So women aren’t allowed to learn from their experiences? Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying. Thanks for your good faith input
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 08:26 PM
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Ah yes, I completely forgot about all the men out there complaining about being used for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 04:15 PM
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Or she's realised being single isn't the end of the world. Being single instead if dating you isn't the end of the world. Being single instead of dating her ex was the end if the world. Or that she has value outside of sex. This is actually worse. If it took her this long to have value outside of her holes that's a glaring red flag. Or that sex should be pleasurable for both people. I do shit I don't enjoy, both in and out of the bedroom, because I know my partner enjoys it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 04:01 PM
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She doesn't hate it enough to not do it for a high value man
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 03:14 PM
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She's scared of losing man a but not man b. So it's a fair assessment and to say she sees man a as high value and man b as low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 03:12 PM
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She couldn't have hated it that much if she used to do it. It's like finding out your man used to take his ex on extravagant romantic get aways. But now that he's with you he can't be botheted to take you out on a decent date
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 02:32 PM
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Are your not reading my entire comments before responding or can you really not put 1 and 2 together?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 06:57 PM
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different priorities don't mean they'll find men more or less attractive. I still don't understand. That's exactly what that means. Different priorities means they'll find different men desirable. I've talked with a lot of older women that told me to fasten my seatbelt because the amount of men giving us attention will not go down. This is about as delusional as the trpers claiming they're beating off younger woman with a stick.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 05:59 PM
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40 year old women have different priorities than 22 year old women. Men dating at 22 have more competition than men dating at 40
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 05:09 PM
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I didn't say they became more attractive objectively, I said they became more desirable in relation to their age bracket. The 22 year old is obviously more attractive than the 40 year old, however he has a lot more competition
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 04:33 PM
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It's a good thing I said the exact opposite then
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 04:23 PM
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What, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 03:51 PM
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Its just a revenge fantasy thing. The reality is that men get more "desirable" as they age but only in relation to their age bracket, ex a 40 year old man is more desirable to a 40 year old woman than a 22 year old man is to a 22 year old woman. But this doesn't mean 22 year olds want to date 40 year olds. Not sure why the'd want to date that young anyways, I'm in my late 20s and the idea of dating anyone under 24 sounds awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 03:06 PM
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The women I know in real life that spout fds type stuff are. They just chase men that clearly don't care and then act shocked when things don't turn out like a fairy tail Some learn and get shipped up, others decide to keep banging their head against the wall. But if I had to guess I'd say most will probably fall into the second category
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 09:33 PM
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I'm sure a huge chunk of the women there are probably cute and have decent careers, they just decided to hurl themselves at men that don't give two fucks about them. The ones that can actually change their picker will happily be off the market in short order The rest, that are either delusional about their relationship value or unable to stop chasing fuckboys, will remain single and grow increasingly bitter
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 09:28 PM
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Glad we agree it's in the man's best interest not to wait
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 06:40 PM
3

I fail to see what that had to do with men's revulsion to being used as a warm up act for some other dude
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 06:34 PM
4

It's not a man vs woman thing in this case, I don't care if men do it too since I don't date men. I'm not particularly interested in being the dude that buys her dinner before she goes off and fucks some other dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 06:26 PM
5

Yes, if you can't talk about and give examples of your skills to a prospective employer then they don't really matter. And no shaking your ass for cash isn't a transferable skill. Any half decent company is going to do a follow up on your entertainment company. You can't pretty up being a stripper into being relevant experience
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 05:43 AM
4

And you're referring to your career as? Spin only goes so far, most employers aren't going to buy it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 03:31 AM
7

What are you calling stripping on your resume?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 11:44 PM
29

The main reason is it's debasing. But it's also not as lucrative as you claim. The only "sex work" I'm familiar with on an economic basis is stripping so I'll focus on that. "We don't have sex we just talk/cuddle" is a lie. If they're getting extra money on the side they're taking some dick Ugly women aren't making 100+ an hour. Young pretty women can make that plus have men pay for their housing and buy them gifts, but it's a short career with no real transitional skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 10:01 PM
17

15ish times, about once a week with a couple of double thrown in. But you are aware a lot of men actually hang out with female friends at least weekly and pay for coffee/drinks, etc Lol what
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 09:52 PM
2

Women are not (generally) attracted to other dudes than their men. Lol what
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 09:06 PM
2

It's only wimpy if he's not attracted to dudes A more apt comparison would be asking the boyfriend to rail a chick much hotter than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 08:56 PM
0

I'd didn't say she was unattractive I said her experience indicates she's not as attractive as she thinks
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 09:39 PM
3

I meant there is a disconnect between how attractive you think you are and how attractive you actually are. For example 3 that knows they're a 3 will do fine while an 7 that thinks they're a 9 will struggle. Then this probably isn't your problem. So basically be don't obese, smelly, under 5'6" or have a deformed face. That's a bar most men clear, so it may be your non-looks standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 09:23 PM
5

When someone asks why they're chronically single this is the explanation 99% of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 09:06 PM
3

You see countless of hot women with average/below average men Man I've got to move to wherever all the ppd posters live
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 08:32 PM
10

It's one of the following You're not as attractive as you think you are. You're super anti social. Your definition of "very unattractive" is super broad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 08:20 PM
2

I only notice guys after they've been really nicr to me. My love languages are acts of service and quality time. So whenever I spent a lot of time with a guy who makes my life easier for me, I become attached. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 05:26 PM
8

Because women's complaints tend to result in social action and government intervention further down the line
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 05:18 PM
4

Is a 20k difference really dating down? I consider dating up or down to be dating someone from a complete different class. 20k a year doesn't seem like a big enough difference to really matter
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 04:32 PM
6

My only regret is that I didn't get it done sooner. My advice is to find a great surgeon and tell them what you want and why. Mine talked with me about a few different options before we settled on chin implant. Also keep in mind that over all facial harmony is super important, make sure a larger chin will play with your other features.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 04:28 PM
6

Chin implant. It was small enough that even people that had know me for years couldn't tell but it made a noticable difference in how people treated me. Wouldn't tell my partner because 99.99999% of women wouldn't be okay with it, regardless of what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 04:12 PM
43

Women don't need to do anything Society just needs to stop taking women's complaints about this so seriously. A chicks delusional view of her relationship value should be a personal problem, not something men need to step up and cater to
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 04:10 PM
8

Attractive is attractive, I doesn't matter how they got there. Although I've had plastic surgery and I'd never tell my partner
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 04:05 PM
11

I'm a short uggo and can't remember the last time a woman wanted me to use a condom. I think it's a risk tolerance thing. Women with a higher risk tolerance are more likely to hook up and less likely to be worried about getting an STD.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 10:58 PM
11

You'd be much better off watching women then asking How people think they act and how they actually act are normally different
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 06:36 PM
8

The really good looking men I know that "see women as filth" are like that because they got burned by a manipulative bitch. If you think women go crazy when a normal dude breaks things off, you haven't seen anything until you see how they act over a super hot man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 06:21 PM
5

If you just happened to be two inches taller, would that really then count as a more meaningful positive trait than lifts? From what I've seen height is extremely meaningful. But I also went from super short to average with my lifts so maybe that's the difference really just can't see lifts as any different as getting a good haircut or buying clothes that make you look good. The fact that one needs to be hidden.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 10:20 PM
6

I went from 5'6" barefoot to a hair over 5'10" in shoes, so about 3" from the lifts. I bought a bunch of dress boots with slightly larger than average heels and used removable lifts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 10:11 PM
10

For relationships I'd rather find a woman that knew I was short and saw enough value in my positive traits that she was still crazy about me Don't want nagging thoughts and doubts about the woman I'm seriously dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 09:44 PM
24

I wore shoe lifts at my first job out of college and it made an astronomical difference in the way people treated me. I still have a bit if a chip on my shoulder about it tbh. As far as dating is concerned shoe lifts are a great for casual flings but terrible for long term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 09:25 PM
1

Then post the metrics publicly. Make life easier for everyone if 99% of cases are really decided by a simple formula I'd love to know why I'd have to pay a woman 36k a year in child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 08:17 PM
0

Man we're a long way from "there's a simple formula"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 08:12 PM
0

The system that has a vested interest in increasing child support payments would only raise they payments to "make it more fair" I've checked what I'd be paying my ex if we had a kid. For my state it's between 2 to 3k a month, thats a fairly wide range.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 07:55 PM
2

We went from "clear formula" to "legal guidelines" I've checked my state, I'd be paying between 2 to 3k a month in child support if I had a kid with my last ex. That a pretty big range
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 07:52 PM
-1

So it's not a formula, it's up to a judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 07:48 PM
3

estimate
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 07:45 PM
2

It's an estimate, a judge can alter the payments.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 07:44 PM
0

If child support was actually calculated using a clear formula like that men wouldn't take such an issue with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 07:40 PM
2

I'm a light makeup kinda guy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 07:20 PM
1

That's why I said focus on your career, money will fix all that shit man. The amount of social acumen it takes to overcome the physical weakness you've described isn't something you can develop in 4 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 07:09 PM
11

As long as the work is well done it's not a turn off in the slightest
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 07:09 PM
2

I've found being super short to be one of those things she's either okay with or she's not and never will be. Maybe there are some women that are on the fence about it and could be won over. I tend to focus on the ones that are clearly interested so those women wouldn't show up on my radar
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 07:04 PM
2

Unfortunately though, frat dues are pricey and if you don’t pay, then you’re out I was Greek and my chapter cut dues for members that couldn't afford it. If we wanted a man to be a brother and thought he'd add value to the fraternity we'd make it happen regardless of his financial situation I know dues for my chapter were a few grand a semester but I don't think I ever paid more than a few hundred.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 06:54 PM
4

I'm that dude 97% of women would have absolutely 0 interest in him because of his height. It doesn't matter how jacked he gets, how funny he is, how much money he makes or how well he dresses. The good news is the remaining 3% will go absolutely crazy over him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 06:49 PM
5

I see fat chicks fawning over skinny dudes all the time. So not very hard
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 06:08 PM
6

unattractive/ugly women and hot women are two totally different animals with very different behaviors Funny, I had a completely different experience. Hot or ugly it's all the same shit
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 05:46 PM
0

Women also pay taxes Not as a demographic, women are a net loss
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 02:55 PM
2

I'm not sure why people here act like women hate rough sex and being dominated. I can't think of a woman I've been with that didn't like a bit of choking and hair pulling. Of course you've got to mix it up, you can't caveman fuck her all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 02:03 AM
10

They wouldn't rape anyone We'd have mandatory government programs that ensured all women had a Chad dick to ride.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 08:09 PM
3

A few inches, I'm 5'6"ish and I've been measured at 5'8" before. I've also had numerous people insist that I must be taller than I actually am. Combine that with most men adding an inch or two to their heights and I can see how men would honesty start to believe they're taller than they really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 07:47 PM
7

I've been measured at a few different heights. Most men probably take the highest measurements they've ever gotten and roll with it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 07:35 PM
91

Sounds about right And since being audacious and over confident consistently pays off for me I'm going to keep doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 07:34 PM
2

No, this is not correct. You don't owe alimony if you just cohabitate. Look at the relationship between alimony and child support. In the absence of alimony child support payments increase. And that's arguably a worse spot for the man to be in, child support lasts a lot longer than alimony in the vast majority of cases
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 10:51 PM
2

Now in front of the law you're also responsible for her, in case of divorce you have to maintain her current lifestyle. In case of divorce you can lose half if not more of your possessions. It is NOT the same. If you're cohabitating with your baby momma both of those things can, and will happen, when you split up. Why is it a stupid decision? If you're with a woman and you're in a stable relationship, I don't see how marriage can better your position. It can't worse it and provides material bene…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 10:42 PM
7

Once you have a kid marrying the baby momma carries little to no additional risk. In fact I'd argue that having a child with a woman you're not already married to is a stupid decision
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 08:17 PM
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I don't think anyone says dead beat dad's don't exist, they clearly do. What I see people take objection to is the narrative that the mothers are sweet innocent angels that were tricked by these evil dead beat dads
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 07:08 PM
1

I get that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but it seems wild to me that anyone would put Lena Dunham and oscar Isaac on the same level.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 06:05 PM
5

It’s obvious to me why men find most women attractive....because they are! Do you think men find most women "attractive" as opposed to just finding most women "fuckable if I'm horny enough"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 05:06 PM
5

Men who rated themselves as more attractive were more likely to rate others (both women and men) as more attractive. Women, on the other hand, showed no such difference. There was rating inflation going on from men across the board
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 04:20 PM
9

What's that quote about checking your shoe if you smell shit everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:42 PM
8

This sub has a hard on for the femaledatingadvice sub right now. Porn is evil is one of their talking points
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:28 PM
7

They must have gotten it from watching porn It's rotting women's brains
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:27 PM
15

Female body and male brain sounds like the dream partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 03:43 PM
27

It's mostly from women that have let themselves go to the point that their man would rather jerk it than fuck them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 05:50 PM
6

My view was I wanted them to actually leave their boyfriends first They're not going to leave until they're convinced your branch is safe. What are you meant to do in these situations? If you don't want her just never make a move. If you do escalate in a way that things "just happen" Do women really expect you to actively ask them out when they have a boyfriend? Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 10:14 PM
9

Men, unlike women, do not diminish their pair-bonding ability as a result of a high N. We absolutely do
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 03:14 PM
2

The freedom Not having to work and having enough cash to reasonably do whatever I want means I'm free to pursue my hobbies and interests to my heart's content.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:29 PM
1

Rich. Even if we kept sex and romance on the table I'd still take being rich, and it's not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:04 PM
2

Premise 2: A Fair Game is a game where there's transparency of information, the rules are pretty much clear to all participants. I disagree that this is what makes a game "fair" This game is clearly super lopsided, but that's just how life works.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 06:29 PM
8

This revenge fantasy is one of the stupidest parts of trp and is completely divorced from reality. 10 isn't the cut off for high n count though, not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 05:01 PM
0

Well, we keep trying to chief but of course men keep throwing tantrums and destroying society when we start trying to thin the gene pool. Lol, did you just call me cheif? Come on now, you're not fucking Brad the bum to prevent the down fall of Western Civilization, you're fucking him because you want to definition, average man is average. Women get a lot of social conditioning and bullying early on to tether ourselves to these losers. It’s called patriarchy Most men are average and most women ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 04:18 PM
3

When I decide to drop all of them because I want to be serious with one girlfriend, the girlfriend loses interest. That's something a lot of men talk about. Now that you've recognized it as one of your problem areas you can alter your behavior going forward. I’m just gonna cheat on every girl now because that’s what they seem to like, if you care about them and want them to be the only one for you, they’ll see that and think it’s unattractive. Glad to see you found a healthy middle ground. Hate …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 08:38 PM
2

That's how I'd sum it up
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 07:53 PM
3

It wouldn't be, because only a small subsection of women want that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 07:37 PM
17

"We should do whatever is best for women."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 07:22 PM
23

It's a pro woman special interest lobbying group. Basically AARP for women instead of old people
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 07:14 PM
2

It works because patriarchy laid the groundwork for you by socializing women to think they’re supposed to be subservient or defer to men and not trust their own intelligence. Men stop caring at "it works" stop rewarding that behavior and men will stop. That’s why you hate older or well accomplished women and go for young naive waitresses - A smarter more self assured woman develops the ability to recognize most men are painfully average, less intelligent than they claim, and FOS. This sort of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 07:07 PM
3

TRP teaches men to mimic influential men because they’re clearly not attractive enough to get pussy on looks. This is completely true. Legitimately hot men don't need trp, or anything else, to get pussy Women with weak boundaries and no sense fall for it. This however isn't, being kind of a dick and playing games works with all kinds of women. In fact it's one of the easiest ways to artificially inflate your value
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 06:50 PM
7

That sub is hilarious and I love it. It's also a better advertisement for trp than the actual trp sub could ever hope to be
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 04:47 PM
7

You can tell shortly before the meltdown. They both ramp up their efforts to win you over and start with constant comfort tests. The best part of this whole thing is that if at some point you do change your mind and decide to seriously date them you'll eventually find out that they didn't actually want you, they were just upset you didn't want them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 03:31 PM
2

Because in this context they always say they're cool with keeping things casual, then it goes one of two ways. First being that they're actually cool, in which case it didn't need to be said. The second, and more common, outcome is they were lying about being okay with keeping things casual. They then spend the next few weeks to months trying to get you to change your mind before eventually having a complete mental break down.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 03:20 PM
17

Can you imagine a presidential debate going on and a bunch of journalists are writing about whether Donald Trump or Bernie Sanders "wore it the best"? That literally what happens when female presidential candidates run. I easily can. Kennedy vs Nixon is a prime example of this, Kennedys looks are the reason the audience that watched the televised debate thought he "beat" Nixon. Switch bodies and Nixon wins that election. I am not talking about some gold digger relationship. There are plenty of o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 07:23 PM
33

Why is it different with women? Why is it seen as a fatal flaw or destruction of a woman's character if she is not sexually attractive? It's not different for women. Ugly people are by and large seen as worthless unless they accomplish something noteworthy. Heck, outside of actors and sports stars, a lot of male celebrities aren't that great looking either. They still attract women though due to their wealth or reputation Rich and famous women could do this too, they just aren't as interested in…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 05:52 PM
29

The purpose of 1-10 is to measure mass appeal while your ranking is basically"will she fuck me or not." They serve two completely different functions
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 02:37 PM
3

Really, seems like trp and that sub prove each other. On one hand you have women that got burned by Chad countless times in their youth now venting their frustrations out on the hapless beta's they are now trying to lock down. Trp is a bunch of men talking about the best way to turn women into plates. They flow together seamlessly. The only thing I don't get is why the each side seems shocked that the other acts the way it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 06:47 PM
6

"yaas sis, you used him for dinner then ditched him, luckily you have 2 more dudes on hold" What about this isn't feminist and empowering for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 06:43 PM
2

The whole nice guy thing covers more than just this, but you've definitely hit the a key aspect of it. So where does the truth lie? Is male sexuality and the gendered roles and expectations wrong and does this dynamic make it imposing on women? It's not "wrong" but it's going to be imposing at times. But, like you said, men need to just suck it up and take the rejections when they come. I also think that a lot of people, both men and women, are becoming increasingly anxious, avoidant and lacking…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 05:26 PM
6

That's a whole lot of words to say yes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 03:08 PM
6

This is like that Louis ck bit about McCain in the hut vrs Jane Fonda on a tank. No one's arguing that an individual woman can't be hornier than an individual man at times. But from a high level and long term view, this is super lopsided towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 08:58 PM
56

It's just that we don't want it with low quality losers who have nothing else to offer. So not nearly as horny as men. Look I like mocking the uggos as much as the next guy, but there is biological backing to men being hornier than women. Testosterone is one hell of a drug
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 08:39 PM
2

So you see the difference. Women do this thing where they overcorrect after getting burned. You can't reasonably expect a man to agree to be exclusive, and honestly mean it, with a woman he's never fucked, the vast majority won't go for it. Find the middle ground between raw dogging randoms and your current state.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 06:17 PM
1

Are these men making you wait for sex now?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 06:06 PM
3

You can do whatever, your body your choice. But you're asking men to commit to a newly reformed party girl they haven't fucked yet and have only known for a month. That's insane and men won't go for it. So either wait longer for both the title and sex or start putting out sooner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 06:02 PM
8

Just because you’re my boyfriend, doesn’t mean if you aren’t feeling it 5 months later you can’t end things with me! But I'll have to stop fucking other women during those 5 months. And these guys don't want to do that with you But good for you for not giving them a second chance, they'll never change and you're doing the right thing by telling them to get lost. More women should do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 04:28 PM
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I'm sure this is gonna make me sound like the old man I am, but I blame social media and the current state of news reporting for this. If there is one thing women love to do it's worry. But now they get browbeat by news narratives that paint a much bleaker picture than the reality of things. And then they go to echo chambers of worry where people constantly shout about impending doom. It's not healthy for anyone, let alone women that are more prone to extreme anxiety than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 08:07 PM
7

This is exactly what it means. But I'm looking forward to seeing the crazy spin that gets put on it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 02:23 PM
15

I too am incapable of empathizing with the opposite sex
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 09:44 PM
14

5'6" in real life and 5'8" on tinder. Hookups and short term things have always been super easy for me but real long term relationships have been exceedingly difficult. I'd be lying if I said it's not frustrating at times how much weight women out on height when it comes to the men they put a label on. I've seen women gleefully brag about dating abusers, homeless men, obese men, men with multiple baby mamas. But getting to be more than a fun distraction at my height is a near Herculean feat. One…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 09:09 PM
5

What else am I supposed to do at work?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 05:49 PM
1

Do they though?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 05:26 PM
3

I meant an upgrade in comparison it the current state of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 05:16 PM
14

Going in completely blind would be an upgrade for most men. They'd see the truth for themselves soon enough, it's super obvious Getting beaten over the head with the message that women are wonderful perfect angels that must be taken care of fucks dudes up. That's why so many redpillers go off the deep end in the opposite direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 04:53 PM
3

He disagrees with me on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 09:13 PM
2

You didn’t say “the children” you said she should stay with you. If she can't take care of the children without my money then they can just stay with me until she can woman up. I get it, everyone lies on the internet. But let's keep those lies to things that can't be easily disproven by scrolling up a few inches. And I say that as a 7 foot tall millionaire model with 8 pack abs
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 07:24 PM
3

I'm meant "woman up" by making enough money to support her kids. If she can't do that then my kids can just stay with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 07:13 PM
7

The very first line of my first comment explicitly said I don't think people should be required to stay together
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 07:04 PM
2

Same way I do now. Pick a career path I don't hate that lets me make decent money
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 06:47 PM
1

Of course they won't be invisible, you'll never be perfect but it'll be a huge improvement. Is this a parody post of incels that claim that since they can't be super Chad they shouldn't even try? Because if so bravo, it went way over my head
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 06:44 PM
4

I never said anything about not providing for the kids, I just don't want to provide for the woman. If she can't take care of the children without my money then they can just stay with me until she can woman up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 06:42 PM
2

I mean if you're talking about shit like muscular dystrophy then I guess my answer is who cares I'm gonna die at 30 anyways. But if you're not talking about stuff like that then just eat right, work out and get a little surgery if needed. I'd tell am ugly dude the same shit, get fit and have a little surgery. You don't have to have the ass of a Latina Instagram model for it to stand out. Just like men don't have to be build like the rock for their muscles to stand out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 06:40 PM
16

Conveniently ignored child support and the division of assets and debts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 06:29 PM
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Personally I don't want kids. But you got to know that "just never have kids" seems like insane advice to 99% of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 06:26 PM
2

Yeah I'll still be ugly, but noticably less ugly and every bit helps. And not just romantically
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 06:21 PM
29

Of course not, that's insane. What I want is to not be forced to provide for a woman after we've divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 06:19 PM
1

Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 06:18 PM
2

Make sure I stay reasonably lean and work on building a nice ass and thighs. Be pleasant to be around and fun to talk to. Get good with "natural" makeup Pick up a male dominated hobby. Pick a career path that'll let me support myself. Learn to cook. Sleep around with men slightly out of my league when I want to and then find a nice and financially secure dude that's a bit less attractive than me when it comes time to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 06:14 PM
3

If a filth rich ugly women wanted to find a hot sugar baby she'd have no problem doing so, wealthy women are just less interested in that sort of arrangement. When you're stocked with cash social rules stop applying to you. I don't think those sorts of people are a good way to determine how life works for most people
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 06:09 PM
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because a man's worth isn't mediated by his appearance, he's less affected by ageism or lookism, and a man can compensate for shitty looks or low height with money. Women cannot do this. If she looks like a bridge troll there's no amount of money that makes her fuckable. People love to repeat this but it couldn't be farther from the truth. Looks are extremely important to a man's worth and I'm not sure why women like to pretend that's not the case
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 02:22 PM
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Absolutely I'm sure there are some exceptions, but shit bags come with glaring red flags and you ignore them at your own risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 10:12 PM
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Won't someone please think of the gold diggers!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 04:03 PM
3

I was more talking about the impact of cutting the workforce in half.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 03:00 PM
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And if women didn't work average salaries would sky rocket
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 02:39 PM
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Sort of but not for the reasons in your post. Growing old alone with no one to help me out is the only thing I'm afraid of. I love being a bachelor with no kids but that thought does scare me a bit
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 12:13 AM
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I do think a list of hard nos would be very useful for some people
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 06:57 PM
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Most people that claim to have a checklist of requirements will throw them out the second a hottie hits on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 06:25 PM
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Vet a guy before dating, ie as his friend/acquaintance. Aka avoid online dating Both types Only have sex after an established relationship, bf/gf labels I don't think this is an alpha beta thing. This would mainly attract religious men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 04:20 PM
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I don't trust people that don't get along with their own gender. They're manipulative shit bags 99% of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 08:35 PM
3

That's a very convenient stance for women to take
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 09:49 PM
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So women don't pull their weight financially and that's all fine and dandy out when a man doesn't pull his weight when it comes to chores suddenly it's an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 06:04 PM
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Where are all these women that make just as much as, if not more than, their man and still do all the chores around the house? Women are constantly complaining about this but I've yet to see it in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 04:54 PM
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I don't know why people are acting like that sub is some new thing. It's just a return to traditional dating advice for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:57 PM
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Why would a man date a woman exclusively for months without sex? When it comes time to pick a woman to be exclusive with I'm going to go with the equally as cool, interesting and hot chick that I've been fucking instead if choosing to continue to pursue the woman that's shown no sexual interest in me. . You're free to wait till exclusivity by a lot of men aren't going to wait that long, because your competition doesn't make us wait that long.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:36 PM
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Why would be exclusive with someone that won't fuck me? That sounds insane
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:15 PM
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I've found that if we don't have sex by date 4 we're never having sex. So continuing to go on dates is just a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:08 PM
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Rich men don't have a wall
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 04:21 PM
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I've had a few women flip the script on me. After I rejected them they acted like they were fine with it and then went around telling our mutual friends that I was the one that was secretly in love with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 10:12 PM
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That sub is hilarious, I really hope they don't ban it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 02:05 PM
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The same reason I'll choke a woman in bed but not in a Starbucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 06:00 PM
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If you don't look like breakfast at Tiffany's era Audrey Hepburn don't even talk to me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 11:41 PM
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Don't be fat and be fun to be around is 90% of what makes a woman attractive to most men and I think it's always been that way. What you're describing is what it takes to be the kind of woman men do crazy things for and other women are jealous of. Sort of like how most men want to be the kind of man women desperately hurl themselves at. But that doesn't mean if a man isn't at that level he's automatically ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 09:14 PM
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Yeah he was decent looking, but how do people with such shit attitudes be so successful? The more attractive you are the more red flags people are willing to overlook
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 09:04 PM
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And yet according to some of y’all on here, the ability to have six minutes of dry rutting by a 19 year old drunk frat boy with a pencil dick makes this all worth it. This isn't why people say being a woman is "life on easy mode."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 06:06 PM
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(22M) YTA
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 08:08 PM
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Unpredictable manual labor is the hardest thing to automate
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 07:01 PM
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How is "buy drugs and then invite club skanks to do said drugs with you" an elaborate scheme? Shit goes down all the time I do not want to have sex with a woman who is in any way forced, coerced or pressured into sex with me. What are you talking about man, no one is being forced into anything
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 05:15 PM
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6 foot So manlet
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 04:40 PM
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Manlet in denial spotted
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 04:33 PM
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raped, assaulted, and harassed by? That's what they call it when a non Chad looks in their general direction
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 04:02 PM
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You’re leeching off of other people money because you cant afford yourself Naw, I pay way more in taxes than I'll ever take out in benefits. Atleast the children will become the future workers that will pay for old people If they come from single parents they probably won't. They'll end up worthless leeches, just like their worthless mother What are you doing that’s so special? That's just it. Being a productive member of society isn't special and is incredibly easy. Yet so many single mothers f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 12:17 AM
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Plenty of parents in two parent households pay more in taxes than they cost in benefits. That's not true for single mothers, they are all but guaranteed that be failures and leeches. The same holds true for their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 11:06 PM
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We've been calling people we don't like virgins forever. Incel just rolls Nazi and virgin into one word. It's convenient
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 10:03 PM
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Because that's not true Single mother households are much larger net losses
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 10:01 PM
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If I had the choice to not have to work ever and still have a relatively high quality of life, over working a normal job... it’s a no brainer. The ability to marry someone (as a woman) who makes a fair earning ($60k+ a year) is available to a majority of woman Bruh 60k isn't providing a high quality of for a family of 4 in most cities. In the places that 60k would allow a family to live a comfortable life there aren't a lot of jobs paying that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 08:25 PM
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Ah so you're ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 06:19 PM
2

monetized Insta or Snap Why do you hate free money?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 06:01 PM
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Man I wish this was true. I'm tired of my tax dollars supporting single moms and their spawns. Especially because her brats will probably end up as abject failures that leech off the system just like their mother did Seriously stop scraping the bottom of the barrel when it comes to the men y'all get knocked up by. Put some effort into making sure the genes your fuck trophys inherit aren't completely worthless
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:35 PM
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I've dated women before So the under control part would be a nice upgrade
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:50 PM
2

We should blame women for everything
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 01:56 PM
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Lol at acting like women aren't just pathological liars
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 10:54 PM
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I've always taken that to mean don't fuck over your friends for a woman. That I do agree with, I'm not making moves on my friends girls. But if I don't know the guy she's fair game
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 04:23 PM
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Some are too scared to actually make a move and are just using her relationship status as an excuse Some are just lying, it's super easy to be a paragon of moral virtue on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 03:55 PM
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Since when do men respect "boyfriend and girlfriend" status? Hell most men I know barely respect "husband and wife" status
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 03:48 PM
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Dating over thirty is a better advertisement for trp than the redpill sub could ever be. It's hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:14 PM
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Bruh they were out of eggs today so I had to eat my burger today without a fried egg on top Me too
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 06:15 PM
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I never thought I see someone get so indignent over men not wanting to fuck middle schoolers But here we are
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 05:57 PM
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Nice try FBI
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 05:37 PM
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Online I completely agree, the average woman that posts a selfie online is leagues above the average man. But in real life the two genders seem to be equal looks-wise. Women tend to look worse in person and men tend to look better
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 05:08 PM
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Because all women are above average That's not how "average" works Most of the people, of both genders, that posted their pic were average looking. Just like real life most people are going to be average, or at least close enough to it, with a few hotties and uggos thrown in. I have no idea when people started taking the whole "every woman is beautiful and gorgeous" thing seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 04:32 PM
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I have zero actual stats to back up my theory. But from what I've seen white man/black women couples are almost always between two educated and middle class or above people. That's probably why the divorce rate is so low and the satisfaction rate is so high.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 02:39 PM
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If a man has a healthy social life, healthy esteem and a well rounded individual, he's in a much better position in life than a looksmaxing guy who's running from his demons. He should do both. Besides being more attractive makes every aspect of life easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 02:21 PM
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He was a rich and beloved athlete and people still freaked out when he went public. The argument isn't "no one cares about aids" it's "as a whole the attitudes towards aids was a lot more relaxed in the mid to late 2000s than it was in the early 90s"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 06:07 PM
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I doubt evangelicals are driving the boom in raw dogging. The op was about American millennials as a population, by the mid 2000s the fear toward aids had drastically subsided in comparison to the early 90s. Look at the whole magic Johnson thing as a prime example.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 05:57 PM
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Anortion is easy? It's gotten easier Also in the early 90s people were still afraid of HIV. The age group in the op were born in the early 90s. Look at the attitude toward aids in the mid to late 2000s when they actually started having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 05:39 PM
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As a dude in that age range I can't remember the last time a woman wanted to use a condom. I don't think it's an alpha/beta thing. This generation doesn't remember the aids panic and access to abortion is the easiest it's ever been.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 05:21 PM
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There is definitely a number that would be a huge red flag for me. I can't give you an exact cut off point but hearing a chick has 100 partners would definitely be a red flag
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 05:01 PM
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has the dating landscape changed in a way that requires more effort of men (in general) than it did for their parents' generation? I think it’s harder for men to find a relationship but it’s easier for attractive or social men to sleep around. I’d also say the same is true for women. And if it's more work now, is there also more reward now, or is it like the broader economy where we're all forced to be increasingly productive for relatively decreasing pay? Obesity has dragged the average payoff …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 09:12 PM
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Scrolling through the top posts shows very little actually advice. It’s mainly memes about how women are queens that should never settle
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 05:28 PM
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I do value the relationship market value of her previous partners. Losers can have high smv after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:04 PM
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I’m a straight man and having attractive ex’s has definitely helped. It’s been enough to shift me from “fun drinking buddy” to “dude I want to fuck” on a few occasions. I don’t care about the smv of a woman’s exs. But I refuse to date women that have a history of dating losers and/or shitbags.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:01 PM
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Not gonna happen. The only people that are angry about this are low value men and no one cares what they think. Imagine all those women's magazines or those progressive newspapers like The Guardian, The Huffington Post, Salon etc. inviting their female readers to be contented with what's available and not being too picky. These outlets make money by telling women what they want to hear. It would be like a magazine about trucks trying to shame people over poor fuel efficiency.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 03:18 PM
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It was all relationship focused, normally it was for specific scenarios with specific women. But I’ve also asked “why do all my relationships fail and what am I doing wrong” I don’t think I’ve ever asked a woman how to just get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 10:29 PM
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A lot of times women give crappy cliche advice because they don’t want to be judged. There are two women I know that I can get real unvarnished advice from. In both cases it’s because we’ve known each other for a long time and they know I won’t judge them or get angry when they tell me something.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 10:24 PM
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Ladies, don’t use this lie if you get busted doing this with the man your dating, he’s not gonna buy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 09:01 PM
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Let’s reverse roles here - if you had developed romantic feelings for a girl who you later realize has been faking romantic interest just to sleep with you and has no intention of dating you, would you be hurt? I’ve been there and it hurts. Most frustrating part is that if these women had told me they just wanted to casually fuck and that I wasn’t boyfriend material I’d have been perfectly fine with it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 04:57 PM
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If they’re in the US they’d have an easier time simply because there are more women that look like that than there are skinny woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 01:53 PM
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I’d find them someone with those traits that’s in their league lookswise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 06:41 PM
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28
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:30 PM
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It just spit out 1566 for a 5’4” 135lb woman that wants to maintain and doesn’t work out. Did you pick the comatose option for activity level?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:09 PM
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If you’re 5’ then that makes sense I’m sure it’s hard for really short women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:02 PM
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If you’re the size of the average American woman and are gaining weight at 1500 your either not counting correctly or should get your thyroid checked out. There’s a chance your metabolism is just on the absolute bottom of the normal range but I’d get checked out regardless. Could be a sign of something more serious
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:00 PM
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No man, that’s for a 5’4” woman that has a sedentary life style. So with that in mind, the healthy meal you just suggested, is one meal, that takes up half of the daily calorie intake. So she would have to eat only twice a day, and both meals had to be completely healthy. No starch, no bread, no cheating. That one meal is large and nearly completely fills her protein and fat requirements. Meaning she can have 800 cals worth of whatever shitty food her heart desires. Hell she can cut out the alco…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:47 PM
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Really? Because I just check a few TDEE calculators and 28 year old 5’4” 135lb woman with a sedentary lifestyle was consistently around 1500
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:41 PM
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Once again some more diet advice telling me to do what's already a given... Get something reasonably healthy and hope they don't drown it in oil Cool, so walk me through why that’s some insurmountable test of will. The hard part is the fact that to be society's acceptable size 4 max, you need to spend part of every single day hungry. Is this the chick version of dudes that claim they need a six pack to get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:31 PM
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1500 Assuming she doesn’t work out
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:28 PM
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Do you have any concept of how many calories certain foods have? That’s only 600ish total calories
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:27 PM
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I’ll add the caveat that it’s difficult for very tiny women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:25 PM
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You legitimately think we don't know that a sugary cocktail is like 400+ calories? No, but I think you don’t get how easy it is to order a low cal meal. An 8oz ribeye with grilled asparagus and a vodka soda is only 700ish calls and full of protein. Get a leaner cut of meat and go even lower. Oh and the other thing is there's this weird pressure on girls to be skinny without trying. Like if you get a salad or eat at home first so you don't order anything... people will tell you that you need to e…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:16 PM
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Did you read what she just said? I did, she’s being melodramatic It's not even "not eating out all the time". It's basically "never eating out at all" Or she can order something that’s not 1000+ calories or she can and just not eat the whole thing eating the whole thing or she can eat a smaller lunch and then pig out at dinner
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:11 PM
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So don’t over eat and chug sugar filled cocktails. I have sympathy for the amount of makeup and hair bullshit y’all have to put up with, but acting like not eating out all the time is some Herculean task is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 03:48 PM
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I’m aware of what women claim But that doesn’t line up with what they do
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 05:22 PM
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But women being "overwhelmed" by some guy's appearance only is not really a thing for much longer than 15 seconds or so. This isn’t true. The amount of bullshit a woman will put up with from a man she finds physically attractive is staggering
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 05:10 PM
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We don’t, Men are just more violent than women so we’re much more likely to commit physical assault. I could turn around and act like men are more accepting of the queer community because we’re less likely to refuse to sleep with someone that’s bi than women are
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 07:57 PM
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Her, the children and our tax dollars make an adorable family
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 06:04 PM
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Op is talking about average men and women. The average American is broke as shit
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 07:25 PM
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The desire for financial stability in the face of no more free government handouts is the incentive Women already marry men they’re not particularly attracted because they want stability. They’re not suddenly going to stop because being single just got considerably worse for a large chunk of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 06:06 PM
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When the incentives change, the behavior changes. It changes in line with the incentive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 06:01 PM
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You’re delusional if you think women will suddenly do an about face and act in a completely different way than they have historically
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 05:55 PM
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Current day women have already show a willingness to marry average dudes for increased financial security. Take away government hand outs for being a single mother and the number of women marrying average men will rise
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 05:50 PM
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Actually the contingent of women who can't afford to raise kids without state support would just stop having them. Like in the old days. You originally claimed broke women didn’t have kids in the “old days” glad we both agree that’s a bogus claim. Youre fucking delusional if you think we're ever going back to that. It’s a good thing I never suggested that then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 05:35 PM
0

Historical fertility rates tell a different story
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 05:24 PM
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but anyway the problem with this suggestion is that there's no way it passes and gets implemented. women are the majority voters and pissing them off is not helpful If you’re looking for a bill that could reasonably get passed in the US then the only answer to this question is nothing can or will be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 05:15 PM
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What social policy/program do you implement to get men to improve themselves so that women will want to have sex/start families with them? I’d do the exact opposite and get rid of a lot of entitlement programs. Make it so women can’t lean on the state for their financial needs and marriage becomes a more appealing option
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 04:56 PM
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This underlined his point. It’s not a particularly funny quip but if the woman finds him attractive she’ll still giggle and play along
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 06:22 PM
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I’m on board with the title, men will pick the hot bitch of the average looking nice girl. bitchy somewhat spoiled prude, most times not a very attractive women always have an endless amount of guys after her. When the calm, understanding, "nerdy, average" girl is complaining about the assholes she meets or men who do not notice her. But this is where you lost me, men aren’t passing up average looking women for unattractive bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 06:19 PM
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A dude
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 10:05 PM
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Obviously not, test is a hell of a drug. How can this be if women are not as sexual as men? How can there be women willing to sleep with me so quickly? I have met women at the bar who were down on the same night. Tinder too. (I'm not complaining! I don't WANT to wait 3 months). Just because women don’t have as high sex drives as men doesn’t mean that their sex drive is non existent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 09:58 PM
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Isn’t telling women to not have sex also a form of YOU denying them control over their bodies? Doesn’t this also presume that all women are straight and [cisgender]?” Preston Mitchum, chair of the Washington Bar Association, responded on social media. Lol, I like this guy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 04:57 PM
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I only comment if they explicitly ask for my opinion. Not even her family or friends can show her the way. If enough of her chick friends disapprove of her man there is a decent chance she’ll dump him. But that rarely seems to happen with the actual scumbags
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 03:47 PM
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A lot men will have sex with an ugly woman but they will not enter into a committed relationship with one. This is only true if they insist on aiming at dudes out of their league. She should find a fellow uggo and settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 05:38 PM
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Women are attracted to men that they deem to have good character Why on earth would you believe women when they say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 03:44 PM
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Oh really? Like what ways? We just went over this, abortion abandon the baby at the hospital, leave the child at a safe haven. Medical debt drags you down and doesn't let go. It’s discharge able via bankruptcy, most hospitals will also accept pennies on the dollar when they know the person can’t otherwise pay. And that’s assuming she gives the hospital her real personal information.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 04:00 PM
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Can’t get blood from a stone, if she’s too poor to afford a few hundred bucks for an abortion the hospital won’t be able to get anything out of her. She has a bunch of different ways to get rid of her responsibilities if she makes the decision to carry out the pregnancy and keep the child then it’s her responsibility to care for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 03:46 PM
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Hospitals can’t turn away a mother giving birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 03:37 PM
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there are multiple ways for a woman to give up her baby, and all the responsibility, that don’t involve abortion. You can’t just skip over half my comment
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 03:23 PM
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So we should expand access to abortion I’d be in favor of that. , and in states where women don't have enough, men should be held responsible? Abortion is legal in every state and there are multiple ways for a woman to give up her baby, and all the responsibility, that don’t involve abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 03:06 PM
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Her body her choice her responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 02:55 PM
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Nobody's signing up for single motherhood to get all those sweet welfare bux No one is saying women become single mothers just for welfare. But welfare and forced child support does artificially reduce the costs of being a single mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 02:29 PM
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Joggers and a t shirt will look good on a fit dude That causal athletic wear look is mildly popular right now
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 03:53 PM
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Having a flattering hairstyle is super important, no question. But fashion is super overrated. Get in shape and wear clothes that fit and you’ll have women complimenting your “style” regardless of how low effort your wardrobe may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 03:39 PM
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I’m a dude and a few of my buddies are hot enough to be able to do this There’s a point where looks trump everything else. But most people aren’t genetically gifted enough to ever reach that point
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 02:09 PM
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They can just sit at the bar or against the wall of a club and have women coming up to them all night. Legit hot dudes don’t have to try
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 01:45 PM
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They focus on that because it’s more controllable. I can’t make myself 6’5” or give myself a model face but I can be more flirty and social.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 01:43 PM
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You’ve already asked me this question like 3 comments ago
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 08:57 PM
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Nothings wrong with it, you’re the only one trying to make this some sort of moral judgement thing. Reality doesn’t care if something is right or wrong, it just is. And in this case she’s aiming too high
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 07:49 PM
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If you’re talking about more protections for workers in general I could get on board with that. The way welfare is calculated in the US results in single mothers getting more money than married homes. Instead let’s hand out a regionally adjusted set payment per kid to everyone below the poverty line and limited the benefits to two kids. That way having a father that sticks around and is a net financial benefit instead of a net loss and the benefit cap would encourage women to be pickier about wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 07:48 PM
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You keep saying things like that but the reality of the situation is that she’s been alone for years. She’s pricing herself out of the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 07:37 PM
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she’s been single for years. The dating market has spoken
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 07:29 PM
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women, married and single, are heavily penalised financially for having children By who? We should really be investing in programs to help change that instead of simply continuing to subsidise. That sounds like more subsidies but with a different name tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 07:26 PM
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Why do I think she’s too picky? Because, according to you, she’s been single for years. Why should she settle way down? I didn’t say she should “settle way down” I said she’s over estimating her value and being pickier than she can realistically afford to be
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 07:24 PM
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Some can be Your friend is clearly too picky and demanding for her own good.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 07:00 PM
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I don’t think women should change, I think the government should stop subsidizing women that make shitty life choices. We’ve artificially increased the value of losers, deadbeats and abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 06:55 PM
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Sounds like these women are picking shitty men tbh. The whole “dating is sooooo much harder for gender X” thing that pops up on here normally boils down to people having bad pickers or unrealistic expectations. Women get used. I mean men lie to them. We string them along, and quite deliberately, by hinting that the "relationship" is going somewhere. Women who constantly fall into this trap are just lacking in basic social skills. Guys can and do pressure girls into doing all kinds of crazy sex t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 09:33 PM
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In this area men are undervaluing hotness and drastically overvaluing valuing things like being supportive, kind and responsible
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 07:20 PM
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Because men and women have drastically different definitions of what it means to be a “good man”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 07:06 PM
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It depends on your location But in most major American cities it’s closer to late twenties/early thirties for women and mid thirties for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 06:11 PM
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Thing is though, if a commenter actually knows what they claim to know, it shouldn't take much more than 10 seconds to find the study on Google. I'm not sure where the extra effort comes in, unless the person making the argument has never actually read any studies, and has to actually search for one to support their unsupported ideas. There’s more to it than citing a single website. A person would have to site multiple corroborating sources and then the reader would have to go and read all the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 07:03 PM
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One cannot make a sound argument without referencing peer-reviewed studies and datasets. Sure But I’m not gonna put together a bibliography for my Reddit comments. That’s way too much effort
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 06:22 PM
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You’re talking about dating, op is talking about one night stands
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 08:29 PM
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For easy casual sex you do Or you could be rich or deal drugs
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 08:18 PM
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Be hot Get on bumble and hinge Make a profile that gives off a fun if slightly douchey vibe
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 08:09 PM
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Because when not taken to an extreme it’s a zero effort way to increase your perceived social value. So naturally some people take it too far
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 10:37 PM
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Their are plenty of lonely desperate girls at my age (18-25 range) they just aren’t the perfect princess hollywoods promised so they are ignored. Are there though
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 02:00 PM
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Why on earth did you make the jump to murderer? There’s this whole spectrum between nice guy and cold blooded murderer
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 09:41 PM
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Where does the idea that men hate sweet, caring and supportive women come from? I agree a lot of men aim out of their league and will put up with a lot of shit if the woman is hot enough. But we don’t get turned on by a woman acting like a raging bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 09:29 PM
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“Nice guys finish last” has nothing to do with looks and everything to do with behavior. I’m not sure why you keep on trying to tie it to physical appearance And, when used in the dating context, it’s all about women’s interests because it’s advice aimed at straight men. Why would I care what other straight men want romantically, I’m not trying to attract them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 09:20 PM
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That saying is all about women appreciating a certain type of personality
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 09:03 PM
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If he wants to date you, he will put off sex until 2-3 months or whatever in Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 04:04 PM
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Most young women have the same issue you’re having. The only difference is that most of them put out so the men are willing to drag things out a little longer, but the end result is the same. Dating is a slog but, given your stated goals, you’re doing approaching things the right way
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 06:59 PM
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If you found a girl who slept with 20 dudes but was down to have sex with you on the first date, do all the nasty things she did before and be loyal/faithful to you... You wouldn't have a relationship with her? Sounds like most the girls I date. Most men would be perfectly fine with this arrangement
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 10:43 PM
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It would also be completely unrelated to the topic at hand
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 04:08 PM
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He is a freak athlete that is capable doing things the human body shouldn’t be capable of But he’s not muscular, which is what op was talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 04:38 AM
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https://reddit.app.link/3IbgerI2yT Even Lance Armstrong isn’t noticeable musclar Maybe your husband pushed himself harder than Armstrong did
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 12:17 AM
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their routines are functional of course. Their whole routine is based around excelling at one thing that humans are naturally terrible at and has nearly zero practical functionality. in many other places the food is healthier and people take the bike more so they naturally develop a more functionally muscular physique. This is exactly what op is talking about. Cycling to work isn’t going to make you noticeably muscular
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 10:54 PM
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being a male feminist isn't connected to "white-knighting" and the similar clichés, and in my opinion it is absolutely okay to be a male feminist. I assume the op is referring to overly vocal male feminists, the kind that shoehorns the topic into unrelated conversation and make a point of proving how woke they are Those men tend to be shit bags and should be avoided
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 09:30 PM
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There are levels to being a “bad boy” Convicted felon is a few steps too far
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 08:16 PM
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Yeah, I’m a man after all
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 08:14 PM
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A history of making really shitty life choices mostly
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 07:50 PM
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History of abuse Broke Felon No male friends Was a “party boy” less than 2 years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 07:46 PM
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Or we could expect other groups to start pulling their weight If we weren’t overly reliant on a subsection of the population to subsidize the rest population shrinkage wouldn’t be such a big deal
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 05:12 PM
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Why is it ok for a individual who is part of the problem to complain then? For two reasons The first is because people do this shit all the time. It’s like saying if you’ve ever been in a motorized vehicle you can’t complain about global warming. The second being that I know my demographic is the one that’s going to be called on to fix the resulting mess like we always are
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 04:26 PM
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Because we’re still going to have to deal with the economic fallout and having a few kids of our own isn’t going to change that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 04:10 PM
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Because men don’t get social points for bragging to our friends about getting hit on by “creeps”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 06:26 PM
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That’s just not true, there is no way we’d leave money after.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 08:07 PM
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I can't imagine women would be into sexual degradation of their own volition Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 07:15 PM
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Plenty of family law attorneys work on commission You don’t have to pay them shit until you start getting those child support checks
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:20 PM
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If this is a real story your attorney was horrendously incompetent
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:19 PM
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Sure, she has to put a minimal amount of effort in to get the money
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:16 PM
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Dad can quit his job or cancel his bank account or work under the table and bye bye child support. If dad doesn’t care about his credit, he’ll live in a trailer with thousands in arrears and not give a single fuck. If dad makes a couple hundred dollar payment twice a year, the courts will say “he’s trying” and he’s off the hook again. Men get thrown in prison for that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:12 PM
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Depends How hot is he?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 09:24 PM
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It’s a numbers thing As people age the ratio goes from favoring women to favoring men. That and women’s desire to date older skews this even more, the 50 year old man is an option for women in her early to late 40s while the 50 year old woman is only an option for men in their mid 50s and up
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 03:42 PM
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After two months in the relationship, we began to get sexual and she shared that she had never had sex before (neither had I) The problem here isn’t that promiscuous women are inherently undesirable, the problem comes from from two distinct issues. One being that little Mrs. I love filming gangbangs here made him wait two months the fuck, don’t be a slut for other men but a pride for your boyfriend. The second being that she repeatedly lo d to and attempted to manipulate her boyfriend. If she ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 07:22 PM
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So a random state rep is now representative of the Republican Party. Does that mean pedophile mayor Ed Murray now represents the values of the Democratic Party?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 03:52 PM
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Your comparing democratic talking points, many of which they do nothing about when they’re actually in power, to the craziest side of the Republican Party That being said most people vote on feelings rather than facts. The feelings men vote based tend to be different than the ones women vote based on
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 02:29 PM
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By being ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 02:22 PM
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Assuming she's reasonably attractive, pleasant, and otherwise a good relationship prospect, would you consider her for a committed relationship? I’d be down for that as would most men. But I do want to clarify something. RP men love to talk about CC riders that "age out" and decide they're ready for commitment A lot of the animosity is because some of these women suddenly become prudes. I have no problem dating a former slut but she better be my slut when we’re in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 09:56 PM
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Videogames aren't as dangerous as I've decided relationships with women are. I've sworn off cocaine and heroine. You completely missed the point. How much time do you spend researching, thinking about and discussing cocaine and heroin? For people who want people to be healthy doctors sure talk about diseases a lot. For people who want to be free of addiction alcoholics sure talk about the negative affects of alcohol a lot. Both these groups would admit that disease and alcohol are a huge part of…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 06:28 PM
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No one is saying “all” we don’t think you’re super humans that never need to sleep. The term I used was “a lot” I spend some time on videogame forums but I don't spend "all my time" obsessing over videogames The difference is you haven’t sworn off video games and claimed they have no place in your life. Unless you are claiming that posting or engaging in a subreddit constitutes "unhealthy obsession" in and of itself? I’m saying that for a sub entirely dedicated to wanting nothing to do with wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 06:17 PM
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MGTOW spend ALL their time obsessing over women instead of actually going their own way Judging from the sub y’all spend a lot of time obsessing over women Watch what they do not what they say isn’t just applied to women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 04:54 PM
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I don’t get what the tweet has to do with your question If you’re asking if there is anyway she increase her value to the point she can bag a current nfl Star the answer is no If you’re asking what women can do to increase their relationship value then they can do the obvious physical improvements of hitting the gym, getting better with makeup and wearing more flattering clothes. They can take up a male dominated hobby, work on her sense of humor, improve her career, be fun to be around, learn t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 02:10 PM
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constantly asking “where’s my” whatever is missing at the moment When we ask this we’re not asking you to help look for it. We just want to know if you happen to know where it is off the top of your head
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 03:55 PM
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I only have one real beef with women when it comes to a ltr They’ll pick stupid fights over minor things but when it comes to real problems they suddenly develop this crippling fear of confrontation
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 02:50 PM
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Q4All: Why do you think American opinion has shifted against "victims?" Here’s your answer Rather than breaking along gendered lines, the #MeToo divide increasingly appears to be a partisan one. On each of these three questions, the gap between Trump and Clinton voters is at least six times greater than the one between genders. It’s because the movement has become a political weapon.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 06:37 PM
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It’s not a social contract when one side is doing all the sacrificing, it’s exploitation
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 06:19 PM
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Your fourth point is closest to the truth. He agrees with redpillers about most issues regarding dating and social issues. However his proposed solutions run counter to the ones proposed by trp. He seems to think men should step up, be good men and try to “fix” a society that’s turned it’s back on them. Trp on the other hand is all about “enjoying the decline” and sees Peterson’s proposed solutions as pathetic, why sacrifice yourself for others when they wouldn’t do the same for you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 02:08 PM
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Men who self describe themselves that way are anti social weirdos 99% of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 06:44 PM
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There is a huge array of careers between truck driver and hedge fund manager
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 07:29 PM
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Thanks but I’m far from hedge fund level That’s the sort of thing you need an Ivy League mba for
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 07:10 PM
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Probably a lower percentage than the general population. Men who grow up in that environment tend to be good at emotionally manipulation and they certainly don’t need the internet to tell them that not all women are perfect little angels. It’s considerably more likely they grew up with an over protective mother than an outright abusive one
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 07:09 PM
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The apples to apples comparison for a median truck driver is the median programmer then. 79k. Not even six figures. That’s double the salary for less hours and better working conditions. For the prestigious ones Sure but the vast majority of people aren’t angling for super prestigious careers Define "normal." I’d consider my path to be fairly normal. I’m a finance nerd that went to a state school, my career path isn’t super prestigious but still let me clear six figures by my mid twenties and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 04:11 PM
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JB Hunt just announced another round of wage hikes. One more and it will beat the COL adjusted income of a finance job. According to the labor department the median truck driver salary is only around 40k. get a white collar job, you must get into a prestige school, preferably Ivy, and make nice with professional networks. You can practice to improve your skills. You can't practice into being a Harvard grad. Do you really think the only way to get a white collar job is to go to a prestigious Ivy …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 03:07 PM
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That is one rough looking 24 year old. I’m shocked someone like her could pull in 900 for a single night
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 02:57 PM
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This is what everyone does on a subconscious level. And not just for sex/relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 02:33 PM
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A feminist wants men to bend over backwards to accommodate her demands and proctect her from consequences, seems pretty standard to me
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 02:28 PM
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He doesn’t look like a gladiator in the slightest Women that are gushing over John Hamm aren’t doing it for his body they’re doing it because he’s John Hamm, a tall rich actor with a handsome face. Same for the other examples used in the article you linked to like office era Chris Pratt.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 06:05 PM
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Dude google dad bod and the first two examples you get are Adam Sandler and Seth rogan. You shifting the definition of dad bod to something it’s basically never used for. Can you show me any examples of gladiator looking dudes being described as a having a dad bod in main stream culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 05:43 PM
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I prefer dad bods means “if a man had other desirable traits I’m fine with him being a little paunchy looking” Your selection of Putin underlines this. Women that find him attractive aren’t getting turned on by a old balding manlet they’re in it for his power and dominance
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 04:51 PM
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There are definitely diminishing returns. There are but to get to that point requires years of dedication and some chemical assistance
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 02:46 PM
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You’re doing it for the wrong reasons if you’re doing it for women plus you’ll be eye fucked by dudes way more. You’re right that you’ll get a lot more straight up compliments from dudes. But you’ll also see a huge uptick in attention from women even if they don’t explicitly say it’s because of your build. Fat soft guys get laid all the time Sure but they’d get laid more and by hotter women if they were built.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 02:02 PM
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The guy you’re describing is above average but I get your point. If he was actively looking for hookups/casual sex how successful do you think he'd be? Would he get a new girl once a week, once a month, once every couple months, etc? Depends on his standards. Other than my height, super short, I’m what you described and can easily average more than one new girl a week. But that’s when the only standard I have is “attractive enough to fuck.” Girls I’d want a recurring thing with is closer to once…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 05:14 PM
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There is definitely some sour grapes going on with some of the red pill types. We're allowed to decided what we want because that's how freedom works and there's no reason that all guys have some kind of god given right to get their dicks wet. I mean I get that it sucks or whatever but it sucks a whole lot less than us getting raped, married off, or emotionally manipulated rp style so that this small minority of guys can get laid. But here is where we differ, you have more than just freedom of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 08:55 PM
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Who’s gonna financially support all these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 06:12 PM
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Better idea we keep the baby killing and drastically reduce welfare
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 09:38 PM
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Can’t* be proven to be a false claim
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 09:20 PM
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Proven to be false The no or not enough evidence cases would be part of the 86% that don’t result in a conviction but can be proven to be a false claim
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 09:13 PM
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By that same standard women only have a 1 in 16,400 chance of being raped in a given year
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 07:51 PM
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There were roughly 96k rape charges filed in 2016
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 07:29 PM
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I agree with your overall point I thought I was helpful to give more solid numbers and highlight the fact that provably false claims happen at a similar rate as provably true claims
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 07:13 PM
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According to the fbi roughly 8% of rape charges are later proven to be completely unfounded
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 06:59 PM
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Yeah, but that’s not really relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 03:55 PM
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Voluntarily raising someone else’s kid isn’t what’s being discussed in the OP Paternity testing isn’t needed if you already know you’re not the father
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 02:45 PM
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women who love kids (this is most women) love all kids, If this was true hospitals mixing up babies wouldn’t be such a big deal there are enough guys who adopt due to infertility or become stepfather Doing it willingly and being tricked into it are two very different scenarios
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 02:37 PM
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Mandatory paternity testing is an awful idea. I don’t want to give the government the ability to force needless medical testing on people. also wanna know what you think about people who make the argument that it shouldn't matter whose child it is These people fully understand why a man wouldn’t want to be tricked into raising another man’s child. They’re just focusing on what’s in the woman’s best interests
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 02:32 PM
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I’m not gonna hold my breath waiting to see if the dominant views in academia suddenly do a 180 and shift back towards a more egalitarian position. In fact to only thing the opposing view points seem to be used for currently is as a shield against criticism
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 11:44 PM
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But they have little to no political sway I’m talking about feminist movements that make a real impact on society
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 11:22 PM
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Because the difference between marrying a woman that makes 90k and one that makes around 120k isn’t all that big Now if we’re talking about a woman that’s clearing 300k then I’d start to care
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 08:16 PM
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If everything else is equal I’d obviously take mrs phd. But it’s not really all that important of a factor
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 03:16 PM
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Still not seeing how you made the jump to your whole super alpha male thing. If she repeatedly hurls herself at abusive men then there is clearly something about that dynamic that she is extremely attracted to. Nothing in my comment talked about what that dynamic is like or why she was so drawn to it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 08:55 PM
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Where did you get Uber alpha sexy manliness out of my comment
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 08:43 PM
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Okay, but in their demonization of the average joe, they are ultimately discouraging joe from acting that way. Therefore, they are still doing a disservice to women at large. They also shame men that aren’t bs, see all the talking points about how your average man needs to step up to stop insert feminist issue here. Which circles back to my last point if they can get men to continue to engage in bs behavior but act like women are equal, which seems to be one of feminism’s goals, women get to hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 04:27 PM
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For the first point it sounds like we’re mostly in agreement. think they are absolutely discouraging women from dating men who express "an affectionate but patronizing attitude that treats women as needing men’s help, protection, and provision (i.e., as being more like children than adults).” I the main purpose of feminism trying to demonize bs is to paint all men as misogynistic oppressors. This is their way of claiming your average joe is somehow part of the problems that feminism is rallying …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 04:05 PM
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I was recently told that a requirement of feminism is a belief of equality or egalitarian attitudes (if I am incorrect in this view, please change it). That’s where the miscommunication is. Feminism in the West isn’t about egalitarianism, it’s a pro woman lobbying effort. Feminism does a disservice to women by discouraging them from preferring mates with benevolent gender attitudes. Feminists would argue it’s about giving women the ability to choose what kind of man they want. Besides if feminis…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 03:40 PM
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It tells me there is something about the sorta man that would be willing to beat the fuck out of her that she finds exceedingly attractive and I’m never gonna be that guy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 06:26 PM
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Presumably we’d both be involved with chores and child care
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 05:54 PM
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I wouldn’t date someone that absolutely despised their job or someone that was obsessed with work to the point it completely dominates her life. But as long as she’s not on one of those extreme ends of the spectrum I don’t really care. But as for your last point I’d refuse to take care of a stay at home partner
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 05:40 PM
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Withdrawing attention is a pretty effective way to deal with lmr and kicking her out strikes me as a more extreme version of that Personally I doubt telling her to get lost would work most of the time but I could see it happening on occasion
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 05:04 PM
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If she has a history of dating abusive men Cheating on other partners in the past
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 04:42 PM
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TRP has decided women are lying instead of the simpler answer: men have trouble relating to the female experience. The reason we assume women are lying is because what they say doesn't make sense and doesn't line up with what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 04:34 PM
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Naw, that's just a trp revenge fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 07:12 PM
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Women are people, and like all people, they want what's best for them. Everybody wants the best partner they can get, and most people agree that it's absolutely normal to date around in search of this best partner. The biggest complaint seems to be with women still actively looking to upgrade while in they're in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 08:34 PM
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I'm going from what I see me and my friends do, I'm a medium smv dude that has zero problem having a few medium quality fwb. The key is to not waste time on women that are looking for a boyfriend and instead focus on women that are also looking for something casual. I'm not claiming I have a different girl for every night of the week but also I don't know why anyone would want more than 2 or 3 fwb at a given time. And while casually hooking up is much easier for women it's not nearly as lopsided…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 03:49 PM
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High smv men can spin high smv plates Medium smv men can spin medium smv plates Low smv men are fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 03:17 PM
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You mean the account that's only 2 months younger than yours
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 08:57 PM
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I also grew up poor and the subset of women that hurl themselves at scumbags seems to include the majority of the female population. It's a cop out to say only mentally disturbed and maladjusted women are attracted to thugs
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 08:51 PM
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fit, attractive, independent guys Men aren't surprised about this, we don't get why women are so attracted to wife beaters, gangbangers, rapists and other shit bags.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 07:59 PM
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The amount of unnecessary detail in these things makes me feel like I'm talking to a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 08:30 PM
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I'm a red piller Writing up some super detailed, and quite often fake, novel about banging some chick will always be awkward and cringe inducing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 06:33 PM
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All of the field reports are cringy as fuck So is the rage bait
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 05:21 PM
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have another person hold me in such contempt that I'd become either an ONS or a plate. This idea that plate spinning is the man being disrespectful and manipulative is really far off base. Most of my one night stands and flings knew what was up and were looking for the exact same thing. Feelings almost inevitably got involved later but at the beginning we were both on the same page and I didn't hold them in "contempt." In fact I actually really liked most of my flings, just not enough to date th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 02:20 PM
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Sounds like you agree with op then
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:42 PM
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I've heard this said a few times and I have two thoughts about this One is that the examples used of "saving men's feelings" are often just the woman not being a raging bitch. The other is that this is a result of the apex fallacy. Women really do bend over backwards for the small portion of men that are either attractive, dangerous or powerful enough to warrant such behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:29 PM
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doesn't the fact that women are horrid, despicable creatures bother you? That's not a red pill thing. Besides women can be a lot of fun and add real value to a man's life. They key is to find women that are worth the effort and to be willing to walk away
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 03:11 PM
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Young Putin would have been seen a sexually appealing because he was dangerously
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 06:29 PM
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When you're short any sort of confidence, assertiveness or displays of competence are going be labeled as having a "napoleon complex." It's a bullshit label used to shame short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 06:28 PM
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That's debatable, especially when it comes to teaching it to adults. And even if you can having rape classes isn't going to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 07:46 PM
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Guys know we're not supposed to raw dog it in some chicks ass without warning. It's not a lack of education it's a lack of empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 07:34 PM
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I'm using the examples provided in the op
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 07:26 PM
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When you're short a lot of guys will try to put you in your place or try to put you down to raise there own status. It happens to everyone but shorties are often seen an easy target and have to deal with the whole short man syndrome stereotype when they push back
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 02:59 PM
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mild social phobia First thing you need to do is fix this. Be it therapy or forcing yourself to go into uncomfortable social situations or whatever else it takes As a fellow short dude I'm going to tell you that the keys to success are getting in fantastic shape and being social
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 02:21 PM
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If they've jumped through enough mental hurdles that they've managed to convince themselves that pinning a woman down and forcibly penetrating her or having sex slaves doesn't count as rape no amount of education is going to get through to these people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 02:17 PM
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He straight up told her he didn't want to date her in the beginning. While he eventually said he want to b with her the fact that this woman claims she "doesn't remember what happened" combined with her past erratic and crazy behavior makes me believe she did something to end the relationship that she doesn't want to admit to
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 07:03 PM
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He once swung by my place as another guy was leaving You did say you're a serial monogamist," my relationships almost always overlapped I'd find ways to blatantly dangle other guys in front of his face, as in, "You don't want me? Well, here's someone who does." She's a psycho
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 06:57 PM
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Do you not see the difference between someone who slept with the whole town saying "I want a virgin partner" and someone who saved himself for marriage saying "I want a virgin partner"? Both of these are perfectly fine. People are free to have whatever dating requirements they want
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 06:21 PM
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It doesn't make her all hot and bothered but occasional displays of acceptable weakness from an otherwise strong and masculine man can really strengthen her attachment to him
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 06:02 PM
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Ugh, chicks that want to carry the whole D/s thing outside of the bed room are exhausting. I'll be your daddy in bed but not out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 07:34 PM
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This is actually good advice depending on what you mean my "low" My best relationships have all been with women that, while still attractive, were a little lower on the attractiveness scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 03:18 PM
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There are a bunch of other reasons people have sex beyond just reproduction, physical pleasure and validation are common reasons. Men are almost universally exclusively attracted to young, fit, fertile women. The likelihood of me cheating on my gf with a 80 That helps explain what men are attracted to not why men might cheat. do you think my girlfriend would cheat on me with a man who is worse partner in all objective measures If she found him attractive and was bored/angry she might.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 04:05 PM
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People's obsession with using evo psych to explain infidelity is weird to me. Most cases of infidelity have absolutely nothing to do with passing on your genes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 03:40 PM
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It's also easier to just state the commonly accepted myth that "looks don't matter" and hide behind the women are wonderful effect than admit they do and lose potential reputation point I don't think it's malicious, they're just following social norms. If you're on good terms with a woman and you jokingly give her a hard time when she says something like this she'll normally acquiesce and admit she likes hot guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 03:38 PM
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That accounts the the vast majority of the times it gets said Another common scenario is a women defending her decision to date a hot shitbag
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 03:28 PM
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So she got drunk and cheated on her boyfriend yet somehow she's the victim
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 05:30 PM
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Scientific studies would beg to differ There is definitely a point of diminishing returns when it come to testosterone levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 08:00 PM
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If you mean a study where they pumped dudes full of test and then no, for obvious reasons. However the effects of estrogen in men is well documented. And the go to fix for being emotional while and testosterone is to get your estrogen levels under control
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 07:55 PM
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What you witnessed was an asshole using the fact that he was on gear as an excuse to be as asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 07:52 PM
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It's the estrogen fluctuations that do that Roid rage'' isn't just an urban myth. It doesn't exist the way most people think about it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 07:24 PM
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This isn't on men as a whole, it's on shitty parents. Children shouldn't be allowed to pump them self full of hormones and make such a drastic life altering decision at that age. Parents that allow that to happen should have their kids taken away
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 07:05 PM
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Adding six inches to your height will dramatically increase your sexual appeal. But that being said if you are "undateable" you probably have more serious issues than being short. Work on those first
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 06:16 PM
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Yeah, if you get to the point you've grown tits and extra chins you should lose weight. But that's not the body type in the op Tall scrawny guys are going to look "less big" than a 5'5 guy with big bones I said overall size. 5'5" is gonna be hard pressed to be fit and over 165ish
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 06:20 PM
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So objectively overweight by bmi with little to no muscle. The average us male is fat so yeah, I'd say it fits the bill
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 05:57 PM
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I'm still vascular and have big shoulders and arms, in fact my arms are actually bigger now. I lost abs and look softer without a shirt but look more muscular with one on despite it not actually being the case
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 05:52 PM
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You were also drastically over weight
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 05:50 PM
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Then go get a Victoria secret model and come back to me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 05:08 PM
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Better fitting clothes aren't going to show off abs and striations Unless you're just walking around with your shirt unbuttoned
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 05:06 PM
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Those women are just batting above their league
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 02:48 PM
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Overall size is very important to women, this shouldn't be a shocker to anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 02:25 PM
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I'm not sure why that don't change things up, you'd think after repeated failure you'd try to switch things up. I get that everyone is telling them to be nice and kind and all that jazz but at a certain point it's on them to see the world for how it really is. My problem with this definition is that guys are often labeled evil manipulators when they are just clueless, hurt and frustrated about failing. It's a good analogy. And just like in real life at a certain point you gotta wonder why he kep…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 01:11 PM
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Naw, if she wants a real relationship she needs to be the one that pushes for it. The onus is on the party that isn't okay with the status quo to take initiative and change things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 10:59 PM
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It's the same thing guys do when they avoid the relationship talk and conceal his intentions in order to keep getting sex without commitment These come from the same place Men who complain about the friendzone are the same as women that complain and being used for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 08:54 PM
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Your boy Patrice O'Neal would say it's on the men to nut up and tell the woman to fuck off
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 06:06 PM
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She wasn't getting those kinda guys regardless of her partner count But the only guys she can get to pay full freight are the less attractive men. This is true but it has nothing to do with her N count.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 05:09 PM
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That's just a result of women being sexual attracted to a smaller percentage of men, nothing to do with how many dicks she's sucked
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 04:51 PM
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The slut - stud double standard is OK. It's hard to be a stud. It's easy to be a slut. Being a stud requires skill, hard work, and more than a little undeserved victory at the genetic lottery. Being a slut is as easy as having a functioning vagina and a pulse. 100% agree Being a stud doesn't seem to fuck guys up. The worst it does to them is bore them and cause them to move on to other things. Slutting it up seems to either fuck women up, or more often, exacerbate things that are already fucked …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 04:16 PM
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It's that they are trying to take the same line of attach that feminism took and it's not going to work. People don't care about men's so a bunch of men talking about their problems is just going to be seen as whining For all they talk about how men are seen as disposable they don't seem to take that into consideration when it comes to advancing the men's rights stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 09:36 PM
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an X factor -- stage presence, charisma, "coolness." I agree with this but that's not femininity which is what op was talking about. Bruno Mars is 1000x more talented than Ed Sheeran and yet doesn't seem to have the same sort of devout, shrieking female fanbase. I'm sure both of them have their pick of the litter when it comes to women. But if we're being honest I don't think I've heard either of them referred to as hot and eds inclusion on ops list is confusing to me. I do believe he got laid I…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 08:01 PM
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Okay but that's literally what Ed Sheeran's career started out as, he was a small-town musician playing open mics and coffee shops and shit. Then he was discovered, signed and catapulted to fame. Someone did give enough of a shit about him when he was playing sappy songs in a local coffee shop to give him a record deal. We're talking sexual appeal here. He wasn't signed because he's hot, he was signed because he's talented Do you really think women were holding him up as the pinnacle of desirabi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 07:47 PM
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Doesn't look all that different No one would give a fuck about ed sheeran if he was a nobody playing sappy songs in a local coffee shop
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 07:19 PM
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They focus on it because there is nothing you can do to get Renaldo's face or sheerans fame But you can become more masculine and women respond well so that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 07:14 PM
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This is actually super telling If this is what bluepillers view as feminine no wonder they insist that women want feminine emotional men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 06:55 PM
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All of them expect for edd sheeran, who is insane rich and talented, are also exceedingly attractive. If you're hot you can pull off the pretty boy look if not you better be rich or masculine. I also take issue with you calling pro athletes, porn stars and terrorists "feminine"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 06:36 PM
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can tell you there's plenty of men who find masculine women unappealing This is absolutely true his dramatic illustration of how women don't like feminine men is offensive and most probably inaccurate His statement however is not. Effeminate men struggle unless they are extremely attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 05:00 PM
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The feminine male and it's not even close Men that deviate from the norm in an undesirable way will always struggle more. romantically than women that do the same
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 03:26 PM
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It's a thing that people say but once they put actual numbers to it it turns out men are held more accountable than woman See prison time as a prime example
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 02:34 PM
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f 2 boys fight in school, the teacher might say "ah, just ignore it, it's what boys do". Women are expected to behave at all times and get called out for not sitting still in class. Now you're just making shit up Show me a school where boys are allowed to jump people but girls get punished for not sitting still
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 08:18 PM
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Society is naturally aggressive towards males, and protective towards females. This is true This will continue to benefit females in this age and deteriorate male This is not. Men and women are threaded differently and have different expectations placed upon them, this sort of treatment doesn't hurt men it prepares men for the real world whom which love and support are derived from accomplishment, as females receive this by default Yeah you have to prove your worth as a man. Isn't that like trp …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 06:58 PM
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Dodging accountability Women get away with it more because society handles them with kid gloves but men would be just as bad if we could get away with it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 03:53 PM
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what is keeping it illegal is that a politician pushing for the idea aggressively would look very odd This is exactly why it's illegal. In most states in the us a politician that was pro prostitution would get eviscerated come election time
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 01:40 PM
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That you should hit on other women. You've talked to this girl once, who gives a fuck what she thinks
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