Nail_Clipperz Archive

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1	Men Are Now Officially Second Class Citizens - So What Are We Doing About It? I also said defending. Unless you believe guilting people is acceptable, which I don't and was the basis of my argument, to defend something you disagree with is hypocritical. The post basically said "like feminist haven't guilted people either," this is accepting the fact that it was attempting to guilt people, and using the fact that feminist have done it in the past as justification for using.	/r/MensRights	06/12/17 11:26 PM
2	Men Are Now Officially Second Class Citizens - So What Are We Doing About It? I'm not saying I dismiss things people say. In fact, stories of people experience can create a fire undersomes ass they needed to get them to stand up. However, Experience is feeling based, unless your experience is supported with objective information it's nothing other than your perspective on your experience. While you are correct that it isn't going to change anytime soon, to base action on experience is a dangerous road to go down.	/r/MensRights	06/12/17 11:14 PM
-1	Men Are Now Officially Second Class Citizens - So What Are We Doing About It? Heres the mission statement of the femnist majority foundation. I agree with nearly all these points. Misandry is not exclusive to feminist so it should not be treated as such. Now, if you are referring to radical feminists, sure, I agree with you. Radical anything in my opinion is bad. But that is not the same as feminism and to equate the 2 is wrong. Feminist work for equal right of women, male rights advocates work for equal right of men. Both want equality through and through.	/r/MensRights	06/12/17 11:04 PM
-1	Men Are Now Officially Second Class Citizens - So What Are We Doing About It? What people don't like about the MRM is that it criticizes feminism, which feminists have trained people to think means attacking some. Meanwhile, feminists go attacking men 24/7 in indirect, "polite" ways. This is conjecture. Point out a double standard, that's fine, but when you imply that it's a tactic that men should utilize or trying to defend the tactic you discredit yourself.	/r/MensRights	06/12/17 10:33 PM
1	Men Are Now Officially Second Class Citizens - So What Are We Doing About It? Unfortunately relying on experience can lead to biases. Fundamental attribution error and group attribution error are 2 examples of this. We need to remain as objective as possible when speaking of problems. If we do not then what we say can be broken down and disproved.	/r/MensRights	06/12/17 10:27 PM
-1	Men Are Now Officially Second Class Citizens - So What Are We Doing About It? I agree with you on all fronts here. Everything you said is right. But where I think things need to change is the way in which these messages are presented. As unfortunate as it may be the men's rights movement is not taken seriously and for reasons that are understandable. When the top post on the subreddit is basically saying 2 wrongs make a right (referring to the post "Because femenists never guilt men") it devalues all point made following that. The men's rights message isn't clear and it n…	/r/MensRights	06/12/17 10:19 PM
0	Men Are Now Officially Second Class Citizens - So What Are We Doing About It? This is conjecture. What is your basis for this? Where does your information come from?	/r/MensRights	06/12/17 08:52 PM
3	Men Are Now Officially Second Class Citizens - So What Are We Doing About It? Alright, let me try to explain a little better. So this example it states that suicide prevention programs focus on women more than men. This however isn't true, it just so happens that the techniques used are more affective in women. To imply that women are systematically chosen over men is wrong in my opinion. Edit: I am also not trying to imply that there are not systematic problems. There definitely are.	/r/MensRights	06/12/17 07:19 PM
3	Men Are Now Officially Second Class Citizens - So What Are We Doing About It? I agree with many points made for men's rights, but at times it seems that certain points are just conjecture. For example, it states that men are more likely to die from suicide and says it's because of the focus for women on this issue. The Wikipedia article it cites (which come on, at least use the reference Wikipedia used for their info) explains that it's caused by men typically using more lethal means when attempting suicide. It then says women are 4x more likely to attempt suicide. The on…	/r/MensRights	06/12/17 06:46 PM