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Had the people surveyed ever been to therapy? There's a difference between imagining what therapy is like and actually undergoing it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/10/22 05:58 AM
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Do you think men are biologically better at suppressing their emotions than women? These are the societal expectations that I'm referring to. I wish they would go away.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/22 06:26 PM
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In a perfect equal world, being a man would mean the exact same as being a woman. The problem is that traditional expectations of masculinity are extremely alive today still, and that at the same time secularism is pushing against those traditions. It's such a double bind that even the people advocating for equality still hold deeply traditional expectations of masculinity behind closed doors. I don't think the solution to this confusion is a redefinition of the concept of masculinity. There's n…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/22 02:50 AM
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Holy shit. Very powerful comment, man. I've had a similar journey with feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/22 10:30 PM
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Damn, that sounds juicy. Do you think you could find that source again?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/22 07:15 PM
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But does the baby's wellbeing make it ok to harm an innocent person? If there's an orphan in need of care, is it ok for me to grab two completely random people off the street and force them to care for it? Because "the baby is owed parental support?" I don't see how a mother's mistake or a baby's wellbeing make it ok to put that weight on a guy who had no say on the matter.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/22 12:46 PM
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If abortion is legal and freely accessible, then the woman is the one who decides whether the future kid exists. In other words, the man isn't being forced to support the kid, he's being forced to support the woman's decision to have a kid, which is wrong. If she wants to be a mother she's welcome to, but I don't see why a man with no say on the decision would be forced to pay for what she wants.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/22 12:41 PM
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Would this lead to an increase in fatherless children? Probably, and it sucks, but I don't think the solution is to force men to become fathers. Especially if women have the power to prevent the existence of these fatherless children through abortion. I don't see why you would put this at the feet of anyone but women if they are the the ones with complete power over whether the child is born or no. Something I've seen mentioned before is also the sort of opposite of paper abortion: instead of si…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/22 11:00 AM
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44% of women voted for Donald Trump in the 2020 US election, which is actually up from the 39% of women who voted for him in 2016. All of the millions of people who were harmed by Trump's presidency would not have been harmed if not for these women. How would a left-leaning woman feel if I blamed her for the actions of these female Trump supporters? How would she feel if I grouped her with said women simply because they happen to share a gender? How would a woman struggling to get an abortion in…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 07:44 PM
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That's a tremendous generalization, dude. Women are no less capable of analytical thinking than men. To me, the issue simply comes down to feminists being no less capable of selfishness than anyone else. The issues with feminism aren't due to "thinking with emotion," but rather the completely predictable human tendency to be shitty and selfish sometimes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 07:08 PM
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Dude, beautiful question. It's especially poignant when in the context of the "original sin" that a lot of feminists accuse men of. According to some feminists, "men" are to blame for the historical oppression of women. Because of this, if a woman makes hurtful comments towards men, she's simply "striking back against her oppressors." So the question becomes, at what age do men suddenly become guilty of this original sin of being oppressors? For example, these feminists are comfortable assuming …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/22 05:10 AM
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I hope you understand why it feels a bit dismissive and frustrating when a man is suffering at the hands of a woman and you say "ah yes, clearly the patriarchy is hurting this man." Patriarchy means rule of fathers and this situation is anything but that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/22 08:18 PM
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Hypocrisy of whom? No one here ever said that they are in favor of the mistreatment of women in the way you described. The original commenter saying that he wishes men were valued as people doesn't imply that he doesn't want the same for women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/22 11:56 AM
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What were you trying to say with your previous comment then? Sorry if I misinterpreted it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/22 11:50 AM
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I feel repulsed by the right and patriarchy, and I feel hated and alienated by the left and feminism. Manosphere red pill sexists want me to feel ashamed and "weak" because I'm not buying their scam courses, and radical feminists want me to feel guilty because ... idk, I guess I'm a man. Wow! I want to frame this and put it on my wall.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/22 10:01 AM
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I think you're trying to imply that it's somehow justified when women do it to men, but best case scenario, isn't that just revenge? Is that what feminism is about? Also, it's important to realize just the preposterous degree of collateral damage you're inflicting with this vengeful strategy. When you say hurtful things towards men, little 10 year old boys also hear it. How is a 10yo responsible for "the way some women have been mistreated?" Is it fair to hurt him just because he happens to be a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/22 09:58 AM
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As soon as you say "learned how to be successful with dating" it poisons the rest of your post and gives off redpill vibes. You're making a lot of assumptions. What if it was "learned how to be successful making friends?" Would you still consider it inherently problematic? Just as it's possible for a good person to struggle with making friends, it's possible for a good person to struggle with dating. Also, just as it's possible for someone to learn how to make friends in a healthy way, it's poss…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 07:38 PM
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A woman in basically any setting where it doesn't seem like she's searching for a partner? Don't hit on her. Lol, that's ridiculous. You're expecting men to be mind-readers because not even at bars and clubs is everyone "searching for a partner." This is especially bogus because for every woman who says this, there's another woman getting married to a man who asked out on the street or at her job. Often they're even the same woman! The way I see it, as long as you don't ask her out in a creepy w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 02:26 PM
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A lot of advice is from people who haven't actually struggled. And just assume struggling is due to a moral failure when it's often much more complicated. Beautifully put. "How to date ethically as a male feminist" is great and all but the guide they're really looking for is "How to get a date" and if toxic communities are the only place that gives them a functional guide, that's where they'll go. The frustrating thing is that while a community of "dating advice from male feminists" would be ide…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 02:16 PM
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Which is, of course, how you get progressive egalitarian antifeminists like myself, and presumably other gents here. The worst part is that this is also how you get a bunch of boys flocking to more extremist misogynistic positions. Sad.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/22 02:31 AM
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If you imagine that a kinder, softer version of the MRM would get a better reception, then I suggest you cure that fantasy by learning more about the experience of Warren Farrell. Can you explain? I looked up Warren Farrell's wikipedia page but didn't see anything about negative experiences.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/22 08:39 PM
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People often point out Incel mass shooters, but I find the action of grouping Incels and MRAs together very misleading and simply just unjust. Let's not forget that most incel mass killers kill men as well as women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/22 07:58 PM
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So, I recently stumbled on this post on r/AskFeminists, and while I disagree with most of the comments, it really did provide a valuable perspective on how the MRM is viewed by people. Here is why. Keep in mind that out of the 242 comments made on that thread, a whopping 83 were deleted by the moderation (including automod). While it's true that almost every reddit community is an echo chamber in some way, things become a lot more extreme a lot faster when the moderation cultivates the echo cham…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/22 07:56 PM
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This proves that wealth is a factor for men associated with greater sexual success, but it doesn't prove that it's the only factor. Human attraction is more complicated than that, and it is possible for a poor ugly dude to do well enough with women if he's exceptional enough in other areas to make up for it. Like, say, social skills.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/22 03:28 AM
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Do you want to date these types of women? they sound like a nightmare. Not really. Plenty of these women will treat you perfectly well for your whole life if you meet the criteria they're looking for. Just because a woman expects more money or education from you than from herself doesn't mean she's a "nightmare" in a relationship. If would be wonderful if life were that simple, but it ain't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/22 03:13 AM
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It's well documented that on average women have a strong preference in marriage for men with an equal or greater salary/education than themselves. The same isn't observed in men. This of course doesn't mean that all women are like that, but it's obvious that financial struggles will make dating as a man substantially more difficult. Ask any pizza driver or janitor how most of his dates react when he mentions his profession.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/22 01:42 AM
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Oof. I appreciate that your intentions are good with this advice, but it is wholly insufficient for the men who struggle with dating. "Being yourself" is literally the first thing that everyone tries. If it works for you, it's because you're lucky enough to have lived a life that gave you all the things you needed to succeed in dating without you having to go out of your way to learn them. If a dude is on the internet asking for help, he wasn't as lucky. "Just being you" is never going to help s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/22 01:32 AM
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Economics are not the only factor. You can make up for it by being exceptional in other areas – which is definitely a lot easier said than done. But yeah, it sucks and it's not fair. A depressing amount of feminists are completely fine with traditional gender roles when those gender roles happen to suck only for men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/22 12:05 AM
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I agree with the following statements: Both LGBT sexualities and pedophilia are genetic and outside of a person's control. The difference between an offending and non-offending pedophile is self-control. However, what's the difference between LGBT people and pedophiles? Simple: romantic and sexual relations between adults are not inherently harmful, while such relationships between a child and an adult are. If there was extensive and substantial evidence pointing to homosexuality and the such be…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/22 10:53 PM
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It wouldn't surprise me if the boys in those communities suffered extensive sexual abuse as well. They definitely deserve help, as do those poor girls. What can be done?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/22 06:35 PM
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Uh, sorry, can you rephrase your comment ? I really couldn't understand anything of what you were trying to say. I'm not saying this as like a confrontation or anything, I just really couldn't make heads or tails of what you said. I agree that just because the "founding fathers" didn't foresee something it doesn't mean that that something should be banned, sure. But how does that relate to the discussion of pedophilia, or the discussion about men?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/22 06:25 PM
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You're right. I often have to remind myself that people on the internet are not an accurate representation of people in real life. Most people in real life aren't as extreme as the ones on reddit – on either side of the spectrum.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/22 04:50 PM
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Well, it's no wonder you get screamed at when you say stuff like this: I foresaw the same arguments that legitimized homosexuality being used to try to legitimize pedophilia. Show me where anyone in the world tried to use homosexuality to legitimize pedophilia. No offense, but this is total nonsense.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/22 04:40 PM
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stop calling all shitty things women do feminism I guess that's fair.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/22 03:54 PM
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Like using drugs? Anyone of any age is allowed to use drugs. Not according to the law, and not according to the scientific data that shows that underaged brains are less capable of making logical decisions. The same data shows that underaged brains are more susceptible to severe permanent damage, making such "decisions" even more harmful to a teenager.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/09/22 06:17 AM
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There's a reason underaged people aren't allowed to make certain decisions for themselves (like using drugs). They're too young to "know what they're doing."
/r/PussyPassDenied11/09/22 03:05 AM
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feminism is incapable of understanding the evils that women can perpetrate, EXCEPT as a response to their own oppression. It doesn't recognise men as abuse victims, except as a fig-leaf to then be immediately dismissed as we talk about the important kinds of abuse, the abuse of men against women. Modern feminism has constructed man as a monster, inherently and systemically. And where contradicted, has told women to deny the evidence of their own eyes: Even if you think the men you see around you…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 01:15 PM
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but with modern day feminism there is no 'nuance' there is only judgement and scorn. Feminism expects men to see the 'woman's perspective / experience' on things.. but at the same time it refuses to even acknowledge the man's perspective / experience on things. Beautifully put. Either you agree wholesale with the feminist narrative, in which case you're good and smart and virtuous, or you disagree with it even just a little bit, in which case you're bad and stupid and evil. Literally no nuance, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 01:04 PM
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Male therapists are better for male patients for that reason. I've only been to one female therapist, so my perspective is limited, but she was the only therapist I've ever been to who spoke more than me during sessions. All the other therapists asked more questions and went out of their way to let me speak, and to try to understand my problems before trying to address them. I wouldn't go as far as to say that that female therapist was sexist, but she seemed to think that she understood my probl…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/22 04:00 PM
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That video only cites one book as a source. I looked up on reddit what those same authors had to say on another book of theirs (the Rape Investigation Handbook) and here's what I found: "Ultimately, we are left to conclude that there is no published study or data to support any claim that the false rape allegation rate is or was ever down around 2%; not anywhere, even from those who cited that number originally. Rather, it comes from a judge giving a speech to some attorneys almost 40 years ago …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/22 03:35 PM
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Holy shit, can you imagine? You're in need of psychological help, so you spend your hard earned money on a therapist, only instead of receiving help, you actually get a lecture about the ways in which you can help others. And you're paying for this!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/22 10:17 PM
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Well, getting rejected most of the time is completely normal, there's not a man in this world who gets accepted more than rejected. Do you have any idea why women might be ignoring you so hard?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/22 05:12 PM
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Huh, how often would you say you get rejected?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/22 04:42 PM
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I've been seeing this idea, that "women shouldn't be expected to act as therapists to men" I've always taken this with a grain of salt. Some of the women saying this are perfectly content crying their eyes out on their boyfriend's shoulder, but the moment he so much as shed's a tear she takes out the "I'm not your therapist, don't throw all your burdens on me." A lot of women have that double standard, so you can't always trust them when they say that men expect "too much" emotional labor from w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/22 03:51 PM
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Well, I'm sure your looks and height played no small part in how these behaviors were received. I doubt Mr. Average would have identical results. But still, the principle probably still applies. I guess men should try to be as "toxic" as their looks allow, within reason. It's kind of fucked up to me that things are like this, I'm not gonna lie.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 12:09 PM
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I mean, I do think they are somewhat attracted to assholes. Try reading romance novels written by women for women and you'll see the kind man they often fantasize about. The dudes portrayed as most attractive are almost always the avatars of toxic masculinity. Also, I don't think feminism intentionally asks men to be boring yes-men. I think it's an unintentional side effect they didn't see coming, and still haven't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 10:50 AM
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I doubt feminists, or even most women, are aware of this, although from what I recall there are some studies that show that both "benevolent sexism" and "toxic sexism" are more attractive to women than their absence. Out of curiosity, can you give some examples of the most toxic behavior your tried that was still rewarded by women?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 10:45 AM
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Shit, really? Link those sources, please, I wanna see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 11:16 PM
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Those two send completely different messages though. When I want to say "not all men," the goal is to make it clear that such generalizations against an entire gender are bad. "Too many men" will not be interpreted in this way by any feminists who hear it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/22 07:44 PM
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In my experience, men like you simply don't realize the ways in which they are attractive. I'm guessing you never struggled with confidence, extroversion, social skills, or with having a social life. Also guessing that you're not short, not overweight and generally not ugly. You probably have a decent career, a higher education, and your own house or apartment. Finally, I would guess you have no mental illnesses and no disabilities. How much of this is accurate? Edit: Oh, and to be clear, let me…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/22 06:39 PM
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Fuck me, dude, beautifully put. Feminism would be ten times more popular if it didn't blame individuals for things that have been in place since long before they were born.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 02:06 PM
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Most men systemize dating, since they have to be the ones making it happen. I assure you that most of the "extroverted, intuitive men with good social skills" that you meet have put some amount of deliberate effort into understanding the system and excelling in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 02:01 PM
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Red pillers, much like broken clocks, are right every once in a while. I don't think you should swallow the pill but I do think you should lie about being a virgin. It's a harmless lie and given your unfair circumstances I think you're allowed to make a few harmless mistakes. You won't have to keep telling this lie forever.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/21 07:37 AM
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If it's due to a health condition I would stay with her because that's what I would want her to do for me. It would be an extremely unfortunate situation but I would stay. On the other hand, if the lack of sex is within her control and she is making no efforts to improve it, I might leave. It depends on how much I love her, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 10:34 PM
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But he wasn't much of a fighter. He was physically weak, not his fault. Not everyone's a fighter. But Sarah was brutally beaten and almost raped because of the fact that her man couldn't defend her. He tried, but he just didn't have it in him. He didn't have that killer instinct to take on a dangerous perpetrator. r/iamverybadass This is the silliest thing I've ever read. What if the rapist had a gun? What if there were multiple rapists? What if the boyfriend wasn't there when it happened? What …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 12:12 AM
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Where do you live??? I would love to move there. US or Europe?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 07:42 PM
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