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NarniaFox/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 01:31 PM
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Question For MenNarniaFox/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 12:07 PM
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DiscussionNarniaFox/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 04:19 AM
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Purge Week!NarniaFox/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:09 PM
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Question For WomenNarniaFox/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 11:04 AM
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DiscussionNarniaFox/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 05:54 AM
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NarniaFox/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 01:19 PM
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DiscussionNarniaFox/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 02:51 AM
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DiscussionNarniaFox/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:24 PM
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Purge Week!NarniaFox/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 02:50 AM
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NarniaFox/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:42 AM
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Purge week!NarniaFox/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 08:41 AM
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DiscussionNarniaFox/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 04:04 AM
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It's still men getting into fight. Don't be idiots and don't date dumb chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 05:02 PM
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Thanks for the recommendation :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 04:28 PM
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Ooohh, I had no idea there was a show. I should watch it!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 03:58 PM
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Well, you've also come to the conclusion that you're attracted to a certain type of women. Women who tend to behave this way. These things also aren't rare, sure, I guess lots of people experience them. I doubt that most of them have similar bad experience though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 03:35 PM
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Whatever your gender is, if you repeatedly get bad results with dating, chances are high you're the reason for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 09:24 AM
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What advice would you give to a woman in your situation? If you repeatedly get bad results with dating, chances are high you're the reason for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 08:55 AM
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I hope Annabelle will be alright. You're doing great job, I wish you all the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 05:36 AM
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I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 05:33 AM
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I did say that it's the consequence of men and women maturing later in life. Most people aren't ready nor they want to marry early, so consequently most meet their spouses after their teen years/early 20s. It's still possible to prioritize marrying early if you're really into it, but you don't have any guarantee you'll succeed. You do have to make your priorities straight though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 05:10 AM
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Men: Imma pursue a virgin with traditional and deeply religious upbringing. Also men a few years later: Why doesn't she want to have more sex? Why isn't she adventurous in bed? Putting cheekiness aside, yeah, I get what you're talking about. I'm egalitarian, so I was looking for someone with similar beliefs. My husband and I split the costs of the first date, he bought tickets, I bought us some food and the fact that he wasn't against or offended with me paying for our food was a good sign in my…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 05:04 AM
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I'd guess that some women can have issues with identifying a father. If she's into casual sex and doesn't remember surnames of all her lovers, it can be a task. I'm in for the idea of DNA data base for a bunch of reasons though. It would be easier to find criminals, relatives/siblings, stem donors, conduct DNA-related researches etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 05:02 AM
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I'm late to the party, but: Why is it fair that the average man meets their wife after their wife has left her prime in looks so to speak? It's the consequence of both men and women maturing later in life. Most aren't ready to get married in their early 20s, most also can't get stable LTRs from the first time. If you want to meet your wife in "her prime", you should have started dating seriously when you were a teen. Not a lot of chances to succeed, but, well, it's your choice. My husband and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 04:59 AM
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Not really. Men can decide what attractive is, but femininity is inherit to women. Just as masculinity is inherit to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 01:17 PM
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Pretty much this. Traditional femininity isn't really beneficial for women. If you are docile and meek, people will just eat you alive. You have to be able to protect your boundaries, have your own goals and courage to work on them, be assertive and self-reliant, whatever your gender is. And, well, I don't really agree with traditional femininity either. It's "biblical womanhood", not femininity imv.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 12:34 PM
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Besides universal responsibilities like abiding to the law and keeping basic decency, any duties should be discussed by people dating each other. There are people with very different expectations for dating and although there are some things that are common among them, I think they should be specified and discussed in each case in particular. If you want to talk about general expectations/responsibilities, well, it's expected from women to take care of their appearance, be neat and good-looking.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 02:25 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 01:33 PM
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You're welcome :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 01:33 PM
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That says more about you and women you hang out with. As I've said women you've successfully postponed most likely aren't really "relationships material". Also why are you into it? You could be working on getting together with a woman you like instead of just spoiling it for others and wasting your own time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 08:22 AM
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I'm being snarky here, the OP asks men why they don't decrease women's chances to get a good partner. There's a huge difference between these two.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 08:16 AM
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It isn't about considering yourself as a prize, it's about filtering the options. If a woman is at least average and has a decent social circle, she usually doesn't have issues with getting a partner she's at least somewhat satisfied with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 08:15 AM
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And men claim women are the petty gender. OP, you do realize most women have little issues with getting into relationships? The one you can successfully hold up probably aren't "relationships material" to start with. They'd had issues without you messing around with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 08:10 AM
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Start dressing and behaving like a weeb and always have your pillow with a loly with you. You won't be hated, but you will repel most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:58 AM
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Money - I'd be okay with a man who has slightly lower income than I do. When my husband and I met, we both were broke students. Neither had issues with it. I wouldn't compromise on dating someone who had dangerous job though. Not my cup of tea. Height - I think I could possibly date a man who's at least of my height or a bit higher. I'm 5'2. Muscles - as long as he's at his healthy weight, I'm totally fine with it. In fact, I'm more into lean/thin look. Again, when we met, hubby was closer to "t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 06:16 PM
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It does depend on one's age, sure. It's far less common not to have any public pages for the folks in their 20s. There's also a whole range between having a page with some info and posting just everything about your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 03:44 PM
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It highly depends on the context. Claiming not to have any social medias can add up to the suspicion that a person isn't entirely honest and is overly secretive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 02:29 PM
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Men who think virginity/low n-counts guarantee them something should be more careful. They can get fucked up as well. And vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 07:45 AM
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You're free not to give your social media information and others are free not to date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:09 AM
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Adding it into equation and trying to find someone with similar values is smart. Turning n-counts into your personal obsession, the main or only filter isn't. I wouldn't date or marry a person who was fetishizing my virginity/low count, as I don't hold traditional views on sexuality/purity and I find it rather demeaning. I did look for a partner with similar low/zero experience though and who shared my views and had compatible beliefs. So neither my husband or I really planned to marry our first…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 04:58 AM
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I want to get to a good level of income and to fulfil our long-term plans with my husband. I don't want a wife though, I'm already married.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 05:42 PM
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You haven't read till the end of my comment, have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 05:25 PM
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Do you plan to move out? And I agree with the other commenters, you might be getting scammed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 05:24 PM
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It's more about the fulfilment of one's long-term plans and having the stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 05:23 PM
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I'm jealous of the place they're in right now - they're financially stable, they know what they're doing and they've fulfilled lots of their plans. But yeah, I'm not jealous of her life situation overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 05:21 PM
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I follow one YouTube blog of a women from the UK. She makes videos about LGBTQ+ rights and history, disability community and just her family life. Her wife and she have a kid, they're lovely. I really like her videos, but also I think it's the only YouTuber I watch and feel jealous of from time to time. Mostly because her wife and she are in their 30s, so they're at the point where they make good money and can afford building their own house, have a kid a travel around. It looks...very nice. I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 05:02 PM
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How old are you? I guess the knee-jerk reaction to is - "You solve it by moving out", but I have no idea why you live with your parents, whether you can afford moving out etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 04:56 PM
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Generally, both men and women and their behavior change in long-term relationships, but it usually has more to do with time passing, living together, having kids and not with them "dropping the mask", because they think they've secured their partner. I'd guess the scenario you've described is more common among women and men who see marriage as the end goal and they don't care much about who they actually are going to marry. There aren't a lot of them in my social circle. Most couples I know clos…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 10:06 AM
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I got what you're talking about. At some point I got really into Russian branch of feminism and it is rather...depressing in a way. After some time my news feed was full of news about some women getting raped, mutilated or killed, just discriminated in the best case scenario and some part of it also was about just hating men, because we have a lot of radical feminists or at least women who call themselves so, but I believe they just hide their misandry and misogyny under it. It didn't make my an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 04:50 PM
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They have some catchy phrases, you can't deny them that :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 04:31 PM
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Yep, pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 01:14 PM
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Conventional attractiveness include being skinny, yes. It doesn't mean all men are into skinny girls though. Find the proof that most marriages have it strictly 50/50 during all their lengths. More and more men are single and struggle with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 12:49 PM
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I mean that people, both men and women are expected to look as if they don't age, don't have normal skin texture and are ripped/extremely thin. Not like they're porn actors though. Ask the men, they will tell you. So no proof and your statement can be just dismissed. It is for you, it isn't for most other women. You can't change it it. Whatever, you've already agreed he's low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 12:35 PM
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Not really. There's a certain push to look like you're wearing filters, but not really to look like you're a porn actress, it's still considered rather cheap. Ohh, I think you might want to ask local men how cheap is dating and marriage for them. Find the proof that most marriages have it strictly 50/50 during all their lengths. He just leeches off you and your mother. You can call it commitment if you want, but it isn't the form of commitment most women look for or deem acceptable. We're talkin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 11:47 AM
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I'm not going waste my time on video, it isn't worth it. And we've already discussed it - watch what they do, not what they say. As long as most men have no issues with dating, having sex and marrying average/close to average women, it's clear they have no problems with the way these women look. The majority of women still gets married without much issues. Also you aren't in the position of talking about commitment, considering your husband prefers to fuck with other women and isn't invested int…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 11:31 AM
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Appearance makes up a good part of women's SMV and RMV, but I don't agree with your idea that 80% of women are low in looks. If you're average, you're fine, you can find a niche abd/or improve what you already have. Men have various preferences and as long as you're good at grooming and aren't significantly below average, you probably won't have much appearance-related issues with dating. Also, so you do agree your husband is low value because he doesn't have a job? Edit: also being average does…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 11:04 AM
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What are crow's feet?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 05:21 PM
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Physical qualities? I'm demi, I don't find almost all people romantically/sexually attractive as it is. A lack of attraction isn't something I'd be able to compromise on. Money wouldn't help with it, I don't want to do sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 05:10 PM
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It's just a nice opportunity to spend some time together and have fun. Although it is heavily commercialized, I agree with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:55 PM
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Not even some good take-out?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:38 PM
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Why do you think she's an average woman? Edit: I also wonder whether he's talking about his wife or his ex-wife. If he gets to see his kids only on weekends, I'd guess they're divorced. Still not an okay thing to say though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:22 PM
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I think older women have no issues with complimenting younger guys tbh. And agree with the latter, but the user was talking specifically about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:01 PM
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I hope he'll get better! You have a whole week for him to recover before the 14th :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:00 PM
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That's kind of what I was trying to explain to you in the other comment. Both men and women's behaviors depend on each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 02:59 PM
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Or if they're both married/in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 02:49 PM
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I tend to agree here. It's a vicious circle of "any positive attention means romantic interest, because no woman does it for no reason" and "I better avoid being overly friendly or he'll think I'm into him". And I'm not sure what the solution is here because being nice and just politely rejecting works as long as you don't get yourself a stalker or just a very persistent guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 02:43 PM
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And where have I said that she shouldn't reciprocate? You're reading stuff that isn't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 02:40 PM
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Sure. I just seem not to be able to share this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 02:38 PM
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Why? Being initiative doesn't turn a man into a simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 02:37 PM
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You can easily filter out idiots who tell on themselves, but you can't be sure you aren't dating someone who's smart enough to bite his tongue, so a better check would be whether you're okay with how he treats you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 02:35 PM
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I guess because here we've never had anything close to the US 50's gender norms. Women also worked hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 01:46 PM
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What are your plans on the Valentine's day? We usually don't do much, but I want to bake a cake or at least a pie. Hubby wants to cook some fancy-ish dinner. We usually don't go out on the 14th, as all cafes and restaurants are full. I'd buy new stockings, but with Omicorn we don't really go out at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 01:43 PM
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You can easily filter out idiots who tell on themselves, but you can't be sure you aren't dating someone who's smart enough to bite his tongue, so a better check would be whether you're okay with how he treats you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 01:41 PM
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I haven't said "more often". I've said "Does he call, write you first?"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 01:32 PM
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I guess he's somewhat right with his numbers, but I also think it's been getting better among younger generations, where a lot of people marry because they want to and not because it's expected of them or because they want to have sex. Plus, therapy and family counseling are far more common nowadays and it's also a positive change. I'm from Russia, we have even worse divorce rates. I know lots of contented married couples though, but I get that my social circle isn't the norm or even close to av…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 01:16 PM
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Because only simps call and write a woman they're dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 01:01 PM
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You can easily filter out idiots who tell on themselves, but you can't be sure you aren't dating someone who's smart enough to bite his tongue, so a better check would be whether you're okay with how he treats you. Does he respects your boundaries? Does he keep his promises? Does he call, write you first? Does he answer to your messages? Is he enthusiastic about spending the time together? Is he interested in you, your life, your well-being? How does he behave when things aren't going his way? D…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 12:51 PM
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Keep it for religious folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 12:46 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 12:37 PM
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I get that it's a joke, but I also can't find it amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:12 AM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 08:03 AM
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You're welcome :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 08:03 AM
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Thanks :) I've just copied all my saved links.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:53 PM
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It is applied to women though. Young men and women might get treated differently, because for women their virginity is till a "badge of honor" in some way, but the older you get the less difference there's between male and female virgins, because most people do assume that there's a reason for keeping your virginity. Whether it's religion, anxiety, low/non-existent libido, issues with forming any meaningful connections, a lot of men and women do think that virginity is a yellow flag if you're cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:42 PM
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Yes, because different women have different complains. Some complains come from the same women, sure, but as I've said people suck at being consistent. Both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:35 PM
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My point is that there are different women and that both men and women's behavior depend on each other. I'm not sure what you don't understand here. Neither men and women are a hivemind, so you shouldn't be surprised that there are a lot of contradictive complaints and inconsistency.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:16 PM
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Don't worry, I don't takt it personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:57 PM
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I don't think there's any way to say for sure how many men and women prefer traditional gender roles, as it depends highly on one's sample. I generally hang out with women who are more career-driven, so they aren't really into traditional family structure and they don't want to be SAHMs. But I get that my sample is very different from a general one, as most of them are highly educated and rather progressive compared to the rest. Subjectively, I think there are more men. I've seen more men than w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:04 PM
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Men still choose who they approach and date. And their behavior still affects women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 02:25 PM
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It doesn't really work like this neither for men or for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 02:22 PM
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I get what you're talking about, but male and female behavior still depends on each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 02:21 PM
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Take a break. I'm sorry my comment has made you feel disgusted and I'm sorry that you're under extreme stress right now. What usually helps you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 02:18 PM
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There's a difference between a huge age gap and the types of men/women you are into. Men aren't really great at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 02:15 PM
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Well, if you put all women in one category, you shouldn't be surprised or question why these women have different opinions and preferences And both these behaviors are still dependent on each other, aren't they? Men approach, so women just don't really have the need to do it. My husband asked me out before I had any time to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 02:14 PM
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Thanks! I do think that male DV victims and male rape survivors are heavily underreported.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 02:07 PM
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Neither men or women live in a vacuum. Behavior of both depend on each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 02:06 PM
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I'm sorry you feel this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 02:05 PM
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Thanks for the links! I should save them for the future. I think male victims often go underreported as well as male rape survivors.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 02:04 PM
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Yeah, that's what I'm talking about and it's awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 11:20 AM
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In a lot of cases they're different women. Plus, people in general aren't really great at being consistent. Both men and women. You also can turn it the other way around - women's behavior is the flipped side of the coin of men's behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 11:18 AM
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That doesn't mean they're "willing" to get raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 11:15 AM
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You do realize that your study about the willingness to sleep with a stranger doesn't mean anything in the context of rape, don't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 11:00 AM
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They are very different and I don't think we should compare them or downplay the harm of either of them. I'd guess male rape survivors would argue with you here. Being penetrated and penetrating are different, sure, they're both traumatic if you're being forced into it. Men can't get pregnant, but they can get their rapist pregnant and they also will have to pay child support to her and know their kid is raised by their rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 09:35 AM
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Female perpetrated equivalent of male perpetrated rape is female perpetrated rape. Men also can get raped and it can be as traumatic for them as it is for women. Paternity fraud is awful, sure, but it's very different to rape and I don't think we should compare the harm of these two.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 09:20 AM
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They're free to choose for themselves. I get why marriage isn't everyone's cup of tea and why a lot of men and women choose not to get married. I wouldn't date a man/woman who didn't want to get married eventually though. It would mean we have different values and plans on the future and we'd better look for partners who would share them. All in all, there are few marriage-specific benefits and you can live without becoming official, just with shared/split budget, a written will etc., but I see …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 09:06 AM
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And as you've mentioned 50 shades here, there was actually a study showing that being a fan of 50 shades correlates with some issues. BPD women are into masochism more often than women with other disorders Men who are into BDSM have higher suicide attempts rates Women who are subs in BDSM relationships have lower empathy Trauma-related symptoms (PK) predicted both high-risk and low-risk S&M behaviors, across sexes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 07:13 AM
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It usually works the other way around - a person forms their worldview basing it on their life experience and beliefs they find rational/practical/etc. Then they look for studies confirming their beliefs and few can change their worldview even when they're presented with studies and stats proving them wrong. Well, anyway, here are my links: Pregnancy and giving birth are risky. Cheating leads to breakup and divorce. I'm not sure who exactly needs it's proven by stats, but here you are. Not surpr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 07:11 AM
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She can do whatever she want, sure. I still find huge age gap relationships disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 06:20 AM
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I'm glad you're okay :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 06:05 AM
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What one's sexual preferences have anything to do with their maturity? You can be into casual and be mature functioning adult, whatever your gender is. It's like saying that men never grow up, because they don't thirst for a short, fat Indian janitor who is a solid girl otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 06:03 AM
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Men being attracted to much younger women and actually acting on it even when a girl is a minor. When she isn't a minor, but he's closer to her dad's age, it's still disgusting though. It seems there are more rapists and pedos among men, but it also might be the result of boys and men not going to the police, so I'm not sure about it. Men are so horny, that lots of them have no self-respect. Some of them also do weird shit like fucking a seashell. And, yeah, I know that women also can put weird …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:13 PM
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There is always going to be a small minority of men who do those things We can do out best to reduce their numbers. Sure, we won't be able to eradicate these things, but we can reduce the incidents of them. Could you elaborate? It's about hiring and promoting bias, although to be fair it isn't always bias. I'm aware about that Australian report, but there's also been a study about blind orchestra auditions and women did better there. All in all, we need more data about the topic, as the last tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 03:56 PM
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If I get it correctly, the study hasn't really searched for any pattern. What they've found is that a third of women has done it at least once and I can agree with this statistics. I can't agree with your claim though. I have no idea who she is, so your point just missed me. I can get how being obnoxious is irritating, but for a woman to be obnoxious it's often enough not to be highly agreeable and as pleasant as it's expected from her. What would help is to deal with the issue of poverty, provi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 03:37 PM
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Your claim is false though. A new study published Friday in the Society for Personality and Social Psychology journal found that a quarter to a third of heterosexual women have gone on a date with a guy they weren’t interested in — just for a free meal. If a woman has done it once, it doesn't mean she dates only for food. It means she's done it at least once. It's still a shitty thing to do, don't get me wrong. About communication styles... As u/GridReXX said it multiple times, men really don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 03:15 PM
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I guess men and women are exposed to the worst of each other, because they tend to date each other and they don't get as much batshit from their own gender as they do from the opposite gender just because they never form close romantical relationships with them. We also tend to listen to stories from our own gender about the opposite and not vice versa. So I wouldn't really argue that men or women are more toxic, I believe both genders suck, but there might be some differences in details. Have I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 02:41 PM
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With accusation that his post about her copying others' works has almost driven her to suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 02:27 PM
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Do you think men don't do it? You aren't as great as you might think.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 02:27 PM
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It isn't about them dating, but about him accusing her in copying others' works.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:09 PM
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When they got together she was just a beginner and he brought her to their local community. They broke up and later on her copying became a problem in this community, so his timing wasn't malicious, it was the order of the events.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:03 PM
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She has her share of followers, what surprises me is that how blind they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:01 PM
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I'm on his side here. He was accused in driving to suicide over something that happened 8 years ago. Was he supposed just ignore it? Nah, screw it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:00 PM
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I doubt that, as in their community lots of people knew she was copying their works and they were trying to do something about it. He didn't start the scandal, just put his 5 cents about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 07:04 AM
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I think I get what you're talking about. I'd say that both men and women treat each other in a way they deem it appropriate according to the treatment they receive themselves and it's one of the reasons why changing social norms and expectations is so hard. For example, women do more housework and child-rearing while men work more. Men can't do more chores or spend more time with their kids, because they tend to have longer hours as they're expected to provide for their families. Someone does ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 06:02 AM
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Well, I think he had the need to reply to the accusation of driving to suicide and I support his decision. Just ignoring the issue wouldn't help either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:39 AM
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I don't think I've ever seen turnips in real life tbh. I'm sure it's tasty though. Ah, it's редька. No, I've seen it. It's a bit weird, I have no idea how to cook it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:23 AM
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How do you make the sauce?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:23 AM
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Oh, we need to buy some salmon :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:22 AM
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It isn't really about their breakup, but about his post about her copying other author's works and her recent post that this accusation almost made her commit suicide. He's happily married btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:16 AM
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There's a little local online scandal among two poets, they were dating a long time ago, she cheated on him with his friend, they broke up amicably. Later on he wrote a small post about her copying parts of other authors without giving any links, as it was a problem in their community of poets. This year, 8 years later from the first events she writes a post about how harmful his behavior was and how he almost caused her to commit suicide. He writes a response trying to explain the situation and…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:56 AM
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TRP preaches non-monogamy and cheating, as well as keeping things casual. I've never done casual and I wouldn't date a man who was dating several other women. Nor I'd stick to a man who'd cheat on me or flirt with other women. TRP promotes cold and hot games, negging, dreading etc. All of it is a major turn off. If I don't feel safe and secure, I don't feel any attraction either. There's marriage TRP and it's even worse than regular one. I wouldn't build a family with a man, who considered me "t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 03:53 AM
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My husband. Jokes aside it's pretty much my answer here. If you want a more generalized one, it'll be emotional connection and smell. But I also get that it isn't a useful answer for you, as most women aren't demisexual and can feel attraction to men they barely know for various different reasons. It doesn't work this way for me though, I see almost all people as totally non-sexual beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 06:00 PM
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Tex mex?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 05:53 PM
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What kind of soup is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 05:53 PM
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October?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 05:51 PM
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No, just have a lot of assignments and exams these days and food helps me to keep working.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 05:51 PM
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Oh, that's sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 05:14 PM
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Not cannibals, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 04:49 PM
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Had lasagna for diner today. Calorie dense and delicious. What about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 04:45 PM
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Oh, got it. I guess you have a higher "believing" threshold for male victims than you do for female victims. It's still kind of confusing though. Sure, there are liars of both genders, but I wouldn't say that male victims' stories are significantly different to female victims'.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:38 PM
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Thanks, you've made me chuckle :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:30 PM
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Do you have sex only when you want to have a baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 11:42 AM
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We have somewhat healthy bodies, but we aren't gym bunnies. You should look for someone else to get impressed :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 11:09 AM
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Are you interested in opinions of non-FDS users? I'm into egalitarianism, I prefer to split chores evenly. It isn't realistic to split everything exactly 50/50 though and my husband and I strive for improving each other's lives, not to exact equity on paper. So we usually split chores in a way, so both of us would have enough free time. If he has more university tasks and working hours, I do more around the house and vice versa. If we're both loaded with work, we have a takeout and do the bare m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 09:23 AM
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It's an extreme. In the same way the idea that sex is always procreative. You still haven't answered my question btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 09:04 AM
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Nowadays people have sex outside of relationships as well, so your question doesn't make much sense. I've also sad that sex is a) a leisure activity, b) a bonding activity, c) it's an important part of romantic relationships. Sure, biologically its main goal to procreate, but the OP asked about our personal definitions. Considering that my husband and I aren't planning to have kids soon and we do out best not to get an unwanted pregnancy, sex isn't really procreative. We do everything so it woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 07:56 AM
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Sorry, I was talking about general situation. Taking aside this particular case, why do you think men can't be victims?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 06:37 AM
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Do you have sex only when you aim to get kids? Even if you do, it isn't what most people practice. Now sex is mostly a leisure activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 06:01 AM
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I've copied the part you seem to miss, you've already copied my comment whole, I see no reason to do it again. And the part of calling the op of the original question about your partner size? I am 6.5 not micro although viewing how most men are invisible. It seems you've assumed I thought you have some size issues. Not attraction, but connection. These are two different things. And I've developed this kind of connection with other people as well. I think my school crush was somewhat shorter than…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 06:00 AM
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Not really. I don't enjoy this kind of content, it makes me feel physically sick. I've always been rather cautious with men and what did make me become even more cautious is a few unpleasant experiences with them, like getting followed, stalked, groped etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 07:28 PM
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He poked a box with a needle I guess. I haven't seen the video, just the description.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 07:25 PM
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Because you've already pointed it out, haven't you? I've copied the part you seem to miss. Once again, do you think I got into him the moment I saw his dick? We were dating for a few months when we started doing anything sexual and I got a chance to see him down there. I got attracted to him before that. Demisexuality means you don't feel any attraction without emotional connection. Not that you can't be glad that your partner doesn't have any issues with his penis. I'm not saying you have size …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 07:20 PM
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I have no idea what was the situation at your husband's job, but I can't share your attitude here. I'm not sure why you think men can't be victims. Can you elaborate it? I've seen enough shitty stories about male victims, starting with some fraud victims and ending with paternity frauds or serious physical harm like getting stabbed, poisoned etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 06:48 PM
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Some Russian "blogger-pranker" posted a video where he just pokes condomes in a shop with a needle and pits it back on the shelf. It's a good thing we never buy condomes in supermarkets I guess, but what the hell is wrong with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 06:45 PM
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Thanks, I feel nauseous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 06:36 PM
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And yeah, we did have issues with getting it in. I guess you've missed the part "I think I was more terrified than pleasantly surprised". Still glad he didn't have any issues down there. Plus, we both were virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 05:12 PM
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I'm not sure why you think being demi would mean you can't be glad to see that your one and only partner is well-endowed. By "tiny penis" I mean really small dicks and micropenises. Being glad that my first and ever partner doesn't have any issues that would stop us from having penetrative sex doesn't mean I'm not demi or that I've chosen him because he has a big dong. I hadn't even seen this dong when I fell for him. u/WilliamWyattD, if you didn't get enough action in that discussion, here's so…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 05:10 PM
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What. The. Hell. Mental health is important. Men's, women's, kids', everyone's. I'm a feminist, I do think that men's mental health is an important issue, it makes sense to discuss it, raise awareness, help men to actually get help. It isn't the contest, trying to decide who is the biggest victim here will never lead to anything productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 04:32 PM
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It also can be one's poor vetting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 04:17 PM
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Neither is getting rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 04:16 PM
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It seems that others did recognize that I wasn't talking seriously, as they replied in the same manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 03:58 PM
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I'm not saying that Jim got his ass whipped, I was joking about people arguing with each other and feeling the need to keep doing it even in a completely different thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 02:49 PM
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It's a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 02:45 PM
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I guess higher than the odds to find an egalitarian non-homophone, non-sexist guy in Russia who I also manage to form emotional connection with and who would be okay with waiting for a few months. I'm demi, I still can see that for men it's better to be tall and have big dicks than not. Because most women aren't demi. Or so I've been told. Demisexuality means that you need emotional connection to feel any kind of physical attraction. So most people aren't really sexual beings for me, I feel noth…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 02:44 PM
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Pretty much. In the same way I think that the phrase "emotional labor" is a bad choice of wording, as it doesn't really explain the concept behind it and you have to explain it over and over again. "Toxic masculinity" also doesn't seem to be very helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 02:09 PM
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As I've said, you guys tend to have different definition of AWALT that changes depending on the context. So it's rather hard to "know" it, I usually just ask what definition a user uses so we'd be on one page. I guess your answer to the problem is that AWALT is not binary, but it's a gradation. That's cool, it explains more than "you're lying", which is a far more common answer here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 02:00 PM
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Okay, I'll keep it in mind :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 01:55 PM
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That's a fair point - I'm talking about TRP members who spend their time here. I'm not interested enough in it to lurk their subs, it's a waste of time. Where have I implied here? Saying that RP guys fail at internalizing their own concepts doesn't mean I think these concepts are true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 01:52 PM
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I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about this kind of question she has to TRP guys in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 01:49 PM
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I guess the key issue here is how common this kind of behavior is. TRP guys seem to think it describes the majority of women and I'd argue with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 01:49 PM
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By a generalization I mean your claim that dating a tall guy with a big dick supports TRP. These are good traits to have, sure, it doesn't mean TRP is correct, as TRP has far more claims that just "be tall and have a huge dick". Moreover, TRP seems to claim that one's game is more important than physical immutable traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 01:47 PM
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Which ways?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 01:43 PM
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The issue is that most users who subscribe to TRP seem to fail to remember this definition themselves. They use a rather simplified version of it, change it here and there and in the end you have just "women are evil bitches cause nature" kind of argument which is pointless to argue with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 01:42 PM
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I'm saying that if you take very large and vague generations, anyone can fit anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 01:36 PM
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Well, give your definition of AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 01:35 PM
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The problem is that each red pill user here seems to have their own definition. It seems to be very contextual.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 01:33 PM
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I think I've written the same comment to you yesterday. This question has been the topic of several Q4W and no answer really satisfies men like you, because you're seeking the one saying "nothing". That's what you believe in. The issue is that there's nothing we can say to make you believe us and no one will date you just to prove a point. And we can't really post comments from our partners, because even if we asked them to do it, any new user saying "hey, I'm ___'s husband and these are things …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 01:33 PM
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You can also argue that, well, I'm a woman married to a man and that makes me fit TRP. I'm not talking about very large and vague generalities though, I'm talking about hypergamy, branchswining, shit testing etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 01:29 PM
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Chasing to whip someone's ass is different from chasing someone romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 01:11 PM
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I wasn't talking about a particular user, but rather about people who subscribe to TRP in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 01:09 PM
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u/OfCatandPagan, you won't get any proper answer. Each time there's a woman/women who don't fit into TRP narrative, they explain it by a) this woman is lying, b) she's lesbian, c) she isn't fitting only for now, she will later.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 01:07 PM
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Men who struggle struggle for a reason. Not all of these reasons are fixable, so some of them will never get this "Chad treatment" they want. If they wanted just sex, sex workers and dolls could do the trick, but lots of guys here claim they want intimacy, a partner to love and be loved by. Neither sex workers or dolls can provide these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 01:01 PM
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Women barely have any orgasms from casual sex. And a random dick isn't really worth it. Most straight women aren't like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 01:00 PM
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You can use toys with your partner, you know. Also finding casual sex for a woman is easy. Go on Tinder, check it out. A woman can get casual without any efforts. Lots just don't find it worth the time and risk and stick to toys. Because toys give an O each time you use it, while statistically casual sex usually isn't satisfying for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 12:12 PM
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Considering that there are men who don't seem to have much issues with getting sex and/or relationships, I wouldn't claim that the issue is in women having lower libido. If one person can get something and you can't, well, probably you have a lack of certain traits. It isn't necessary your fault and, unfortunately, it isn't always something you can change. Having lower libido doesn't mean you have no libido or aren't interested in sex though. Women's libido is usually responsive and highly conte…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 12:08 PM
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What's fun in it? I can't feel attraction to strangers and I'd imagine that sex without attraction and physical arousal is rather close to rape. Painful and disgusting. Makes you want to throw out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 12:00 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 10:41 AM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 08:11 AM
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It's a leisure and bonding activity I prefer to share with my partner. It feels great, it's fun, it bonds you with your partner, it's an important part of romantic relationships. It also puts you into a highly vulnerable position, so I wouldn't have it with someone I didn't trust and wasn't in exclusive relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 07:53 AM
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It might be true for women obsessed with Instagram, maybe some influencers or wannabe influencers etc. They don't make up for all women or even for the majority of us. Not all women even have Instagram and not all of the women who do use it post their photos. And from the ones who do post not all are obsessed with it. Overall I'd guess it depends on your social circle. I have an Instagram page, but it's empty, I use to follow pages I'm interested in. Most my cousins post a few times a month or e…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 07:44 AM
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And that's partially the reason why so few women approach men. The problem is that a lot of men won't reject them although they clearly have no desire to date them, so they could get some sex out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 04:39 AM
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Ask some of the women who have experienced it I guess. It doesn't have to be "the first time you meet a guy" though, it can be a person you've known for some time and approached to ask out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 04:29 AM
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I'm talking about the situation where a woman approaches a man and he takes advantage of her giving the false premise they'd date and have an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 04:27 AM
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I don't conflate these two, my point is that there are more assertive women among the vindictive ones. Personally I don't any woman like this close enough. I'd guess they tend to hang out with women who share their ways at least in some way. I do think this kind of behavior isn't acceptable though and should be treated this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 04:23 AM
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Considering there are less women who approach men, there are also less women who get rejected harshly. There are still there though. There are also women who don't get rejected, but get used for sex and I'd guess it happens less often to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 04:21 AM
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No, I wouldn't be okay with it. Marriage is an official way to confirm your intentions and make the law and other people see you as a family unit and not as just two people cohabitating. It is also a safety net in case of divorce, kids, serious illnesses, death etc. My long-term plans aren't compatible with cohabitating and in case we decide to have kids, I'd never have a child from a man who wasn't ready/didn't want to marry me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 03:52 AM
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Men who really do offer these things usually don't have much issues with dating. The ones who struggle with some aspects of what they're expected to bring to the table, whether it's social skills/appearance/having your shit together or something else, tend to have issues with dating overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 05:51 PM
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Feminist men don't necessary have sex only with feminist women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 05:42 PM
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Well, there are both men and women who have issues with taking some criticism. Men do suck at taking hints. It doesn't mean there aren't any women who don't have the same problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:44 PM
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I guess they interpret it as conservative men having issues and not doing anything about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:38 PM
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I think there's a difference between crushing into despair and becoming vindictive. I guess vindictive women are overrepresented among women who approach men because they tend to be more assertive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:36 PM
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I provide value for my husband without having to show or prove him something. But I wasn't asking about general terms, I was asking about you. Why do you have to show or prove him something? Does he think you don't provide enough as it is? So he doesn't love, does he? Are you okay with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:20 PM
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I'm not sure that it makes you high value in men's eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:06 PM
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There have been several posts about it. Whatever women list, men either just don't listen or aren't okay with the points. I guess if you believe that we don't offer anything, there's nothing we can say to prove you wrong. Because we won't date you just for the sake of argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:02 PM
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You need better female friends. Men have the right to reject women, don't want to have sex with them at all or just at this particular moment. It isn't only women's prerogative. Whoever thinks otherwise, should pay more attention to the concept of consent and free will. I think a part of this problem is the belief that a man, "a true man", is supposed to want to have sex and be ready to have sex all the time. Whether he's just from a night shift, gym, has broken his leg, whatever, "a real man" i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 03:58 PM
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In this context it just makes you a free lay. Easier for them, more convenient, sure. It doesn't make you a higher value though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 03:51 PM
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Why do you have to show or prove him something? Does he love you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 03:49 PM
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Why do you want to be better than the other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 02:39 PM
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Do you prostitute yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 02:29 PM
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So...it's garbage argument then, because even you yourself are unable to find the links.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:11 PM
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Ah, I see. Well, this post is an awful example of citing. Analogies aren't really a good arguments when you're trying to prove your point right. They're good when you're trying to explain something, but they often miss the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:16 PM
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Women fight with child abuse as well. We can't really fight for men's custody rights instead of you though. We all should hold each other accountable, but I doubt it works with people who abuse kids. They should be dealt with by the law, not just by some shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:12 PM
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You should check the stuff you copy. Also I've posted another comment about a few other claims and links from this list, you might want to check it out. Drunk driving shows much higher accident rates. Single motherhood doesn't. I agree that women can and should vet. So do men. You have the choice of who you're dating, who you marry and have kids with. It's men's responsibility as much as it is women's.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:08 PM
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63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes (US Dept. Of Health/Census) – 5 times the average. (US Dept. Of Health/Census) Where's the link for this claim? "US Dept. Of Health/Census" isn't really a link, there's no even a year or the name of the article. I've found another study and there doesn't seem to be an increase in suicides among children from single parent households, although there's an increased mortality from accidents: Our analysis indicates that within-state increases in the pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:05 PM
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I agree that it shouldn't be this way. That's why men have to push for their rights and for legal changes. Create more precedents should help with it, as well as changing the way society sees the role of a father. You aren't helpers, you're equal parents. It's hard to change stereotypes though and it takes time. I'm afraid women have their own hands full. Can't say for the US, but in Russia we have our own things to push for and against. Like anti-choicers movement or a lack of domestic violence…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 03:53 PM
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So at least one of your claims is false. Children raised by single parent have worse chances to get fucked up. It doesn't equate to get fucked up in 100% cases though and we still don't have enough studies to claim the latter. I guess I got your message correct - you think it's women's fault that kids are raised in single mother households? In my view it's 50/50 and there are cases when a mother or a father is at fault. Actually being present, good, involved father is men's responsibility though…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 03:48 PM
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Don't get me wrong, I don't excuse women who do it. It's awful, they hurt everyone and they're the reason kids are traumatized. My previous comment still stands though - men have to push for their own rights and fathers who can't see their kids have to go into courts. There's no any other way, no one will do it for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 03:42 PM
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I might be wrong, but as far as I remember most fathers don't even try to fight for their custody, do they? You can justify it with the courts being biased, but no one will fight for it instead of them. They have to make more precedents and push for their rights, especially if they claim that it affects their kids negatively. I'm sorry you have to go through it and I wish you all the best. More men should do the same, if they want to see any changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 03:34 PM
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Considering your first claim - where's the link to the source? Because it seems that Elliot Rodger was living with his father after his parent's divorce. Harper-Mercer's parents had shared custody. William Edward Atchison lived with his father. Nikolas Jacob Cruz parent's didn't separate, at least I can't find anything about it, they died, the father in 2004, the mother in 2017. Alek Minassian lived with his parents. I do agree though that ideally children should have two involved caring parents…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 03:15 PM
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Yes. I liked a boy in middle school, started hanging out with him and was giving him hints that I was into him. I started with just being friendly and ended with sitting on his lap. I was clearly violating his boundaries, but he never said or showed that he was against me being affectionate. In the end I just asked him out, was told that he saw me as his friend and that was it. We kept being friends, I got less touchy with him and after some time I lost any romantic attraction to him and we real…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 03:08 PM
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Let's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 11:04 AM
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My floor is my own height I guess. I'm 5'2. I think it's rather short for a man though, but I could fall for him if we developed emotional connection and I liked his smell. It's short for a woman as well, but I'd date another shortie woman with no issues under the same conditions. I haven't met a man shorter than I was, so I'm not sure that I could find one attractive. I haven't met any guy of my height either tbh, but at least a few who were barely taller than I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 11:02 AM
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Once again, advice like "lift, get your stuff together, stop simping for a girl who's clearly isn't into you" doesn't necessary come from TRP. Bluepillers can give them as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:43 AM
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It sounds bizarre as it is, but even more if you've read that study about intelligence being inherited from mothers, not fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:41 AM
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Appearance matters. How many women really disagree with this? We usually just note that personality matters too and if you lack one of these, chances are high you'll struggle with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:39 AM
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Red pill doesn't have copyright on common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:35 AM
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Considering that bluepill includes everyone who isn't into TRP or black pill, blue advice can be very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:33 AM
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If I give examples of different sorts of advice, it doesn't mean I support them. I don't think that advising to get any surgery is okay in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:28 AM
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Ah, so we have a very different understanding of bluepill, okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:42 AM
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Considering that bluepill includes everyone who isn't into TRP or black pill, blue advice can be very different. There are very different people out there and some do advise getting a job done.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:41 AM
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Considering that bluepill includes everyone who isn't into TRP or black pill, blue advice can be very different. Starting with "just be yourself" and ending with a list of what this particular person should do to get better results including braces, nose job etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:35 AM
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Do you have any issues with taking it? It seems too big tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:25 AM
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Okay, it's pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:57 AM
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I'm not surprised that you think she's lazy and you seem to be not aware about tearing or postpartum depression. And no, depression isn't cured by sport.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:44 AM
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If the birth was a hard one and she got massive tears, a month isn't enough in any way. They both clearly have issues with adjusting to having a newborn, they need help. Either a nanny/cleaner or a relative to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:35 AM
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It's grey area and people like using it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:18 AM
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It depends on how hard her birth was and there's also a possibility of her having postpartum depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:17 AM
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It's really hard not to be an asshole in the situation when your partner has recently given birth and you "lost temper a bit and yelled at her and said she needed to take more responsibility."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:54 AM
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It's okay to breakup when your needs aren't met, sure, it isn't okay to use it as a bargain chip in hopes that they'll give you what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:51 AM
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Using breakup as a bargain chip is inherently manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:31 AM
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Considering that my husband's dick has been the first (and only) dick I've ever seen in the sexual context and right in front my face, I think I was more terrified than pleasantly surprised, although a part of me was glad that he didn't have a tiny penis or anything like this. I verbalized my concerns that it wouldn't get in. I guess he took it as a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:14 AM
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What size is considered huge?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:11 AM
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There's a difference between having boundaries and using breakup as a bargain chip. The latter is still manipulative, as you're clearly aware that she doesn't want to do anal and does it only because she doesn't want you to leave. That's not a good ground for any sexual practices.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 03:11 AM
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That's interesting. I've usually fallen for people I hanged out for some time and my husband wasn't an exception. When he asked me out, I was already curious about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:41 PM
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How long does it really take considering that you're extremely thin already? If we're sharing the news, well, I'm going to start preparing for job interviews when I finish my exams.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:40 PM
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Is you husband into you fucking other men? A lot of them do. Swingering is a niche kink. They might want it, lots won't be ready to practice it in real life with their LTR partner though. With strangers - sure. I think there are enough men who won't be really okay with it. Men can get jealous over their partner having fun with women too. My partner doesn't demand it and I'm pretty sure he never will. He likes being exclusive and he likes us being special, as neither has had with anyone else. Aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:38 PM
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The couple who I used to look up to divorced due to husband's gambling addiction. That was...kind of shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:34 PM
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Just pointing out that it isn't really realistic for a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:31 PM
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18.8 is almost the minimum bar of normal weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:27 PM
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Both news are great.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:25 PM
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Have you started dating them before you got attracted to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:21 PM
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You can have a threesome with another woman, you know. Without other dicks. I'd guess that most people who want to have a threesome do it with strangers, not when they have an LTR partner. Because it's something that can wreck your relationships, so most prefer not to take these risks. First of all, watching a certain genre of porn doesn't mean that you want to practice it in real life. There are people watching hentai with tentacles or monsters, it doesn't mean they'd want to fuck an octopus. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:20 PM
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No, it doesn't really depend on one's gender, men and women can do both things maliciously or genuinely.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:04 PM
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What good news have you had recently?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:02 PM
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Enslaving women isn't really an option either.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 03:59 PM
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There's a difference between a gangbang and a threesome. You can have exclusive polyamorous relationships and have threesomes with your two or more exclusive partners. That's cool, it doesn't prove your point. It was 4th most popular for men, it didn't make into top three. Also fapping to thressomes in porn doesn't mean that all men will be happy to practice it in real life with their LTR partner. And? Oh, it would be cool if it was true. In reality men find all kinds of women arousing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 03:57 PM
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It matters, because it's different relationships paradigm. It also isn't the most popular genre. Oh, watch me not doing it. Not really. Being a doormat just makes you a doormat. Again, not all men are porn-sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 03:19 PM
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Not really. You can have a threesome within polyamorous relationships or with your LTR partner and a constant FWB who you're both into. It also might be a one time thing. We also know lots of stories about couples breaking up after a threesome because one of the partners wasn't really okay with seeing the other fucking another person. Nothing buys lifetime commitment, bending over backwards for it doesn't insure it either. You don't actually listen to men, don't you? I guess everything that goes…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 02:28 PM
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If a woman says "oh, you're so sweet, but I'm not sure that we should date" and keeps expecting you to court her, that's being vague maliciously. If she says that and treats like you like a friend, it isn't malicious friendzone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 02:14 PM
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Cool, it doesn't prove your point. Threesomes are still not gangbangs or swingering, moreover, the majority of people won't be okay with having one with their LTR partner. And not all men are into it nor all men would like their partner to look or behave like this 24/7. There's a difference between sexual fantasies and everyday life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 02:11 PM
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I'm okay with men having whatever preferences they like, I might find them hypocritical if they aren't consistent though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 01:59 PM
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Only the person who's saying it can, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 01:55 PM
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And it's on the 4th place, not on the first. The most popular genre is amateurs and it makes sense, because people want to watch more realistic sex, not porn-like parody. Also threesomes aren't gangbags or swingering. Sure - some. The classic porn-like look isn't everyone's cup of tea.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 01:53 PM
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It's on the person, sure, but if they were vague on purpose and pretty much lying, it's one them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 01:47 PM
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That depends. If they didn't bring up their intentions and hid them on purpose giving you vague answers, because they thought you'd change your mind, it's one them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 01:42 PM
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There's enough porn that isn't about gangbangs or swingers, there's porn about vanilla sex and kinky sex between two partners. Not really. Most men wouldn't want to date a porn star, although some probably would like to fuck her. It isn't a high bar or something to strive for.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 01:35 PM
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So I guess you agree with me. Both complains are valid as long as you were led on and weren't an idiot who thought that they could change their mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 01:22 PM
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No, if you talk about morals. Even if you specify that casual is immoral for women to do, by having casual sex with women you make them worse LTR partners in the future and that's immortal according to your own beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 01:08 PM
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Again, not all men are pornsick. Some are, sure, and I see no reason why any women would want to cater to them, maybe besides the ones who want to make money on them. Again, not all men are pornsick.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 01:07 PM
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There's malicious friendzone and genuine friendzone and there's malicious "fuckzone" and genuine one. Genuine friendzone means that the other person really does see you as a friend, they enjoy your company and they want to be friends. They might know or not know about your romantic feelings and if they do know, they've let you know that they aren't interested. Malicious friendzone means that you're getting used by the other person and they give you false hope on purpose and they know clearly tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 01:04 PM
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Still, not all of them are pornsick nor all of them watch gangbangs/swingers' porn. In fact, most men don't want their partners to have sex with other people. I'd guess that a good share of them is married. Also I think you've missed my main point - there's more to women than their appeal to men. Not for you, of course, but it's true for other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:57 PM
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So you base it on anecdotal data and not study or stats. That's telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:55 PM
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No, that's creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:51 PM
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I can rephrase it - I find hypocritical if a person thinks that having casual sex is harmful or detrimental in some way (might be religious but not necessarily), but they still do it themselves and expect a virgin/low n-count partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:51 PM
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Prove to this number? Also what would you define as "significantly"?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:49 PM
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That's fair, I don't have issues with n-count preferences as long as a person is consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:48 PM
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Not all men are pornsick and expect their partners to do everything that someone has done in porn. Not all men even watch gangbangs or some swinger porn. Well, I see men calling women sluts and whores for having lots of sex or wearing reveling clothes. I don't they should do it, but there's no consensus on how a woman should look like or what she should do, there are men with different preferences and values. I wouldn't want to appeal to men who pay sex workers. Nor I really want to be checked o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:45 PM
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I don't have any issues with people having casual sex, I was talking about men who do find it immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:14 PM
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My point wasn't about the preference itself, so you've tried changing the topic to discuss the one you're interested, but you haven't bee successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:13 PM
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I like how you don't have any real arguments, it's all about how others see you. The problem is most people have different morals and values from you and what you see as a positive is often negative for the majority of people and vice versa. What you call frigid or boring, most people call faithful and respectful.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:10 PM
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You haven't spent a lot of time on this sub, have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:08 PM
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You do get that they're harsh on purpose. Because they're offensive, they get negative reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:05 PM
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No, I see no reason to have sex I don't want to. Or more general to have sex with anyone besides my husband, that's just disgusting. Not because I'm against sex without marriage, but because I don't feel any attraction to anyone besides him and I find cheating morally wrong and one of the worst thing you can do to your partner. Oh, my husband loves me being "boring". So...any other reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:05 PM
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I suspected it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:03 PM
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Ah, I see why you've ignored my question. By "women worth dating" you mean poorer women who'd do sex work for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:02 PM
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Of course people say things a lot more harshly/bluntly online than they otherwise would. So they insult others, then make a Pikachu face.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:01 PM
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And you can not want to have it right at this moment or with this particular person. In your eyes, but not in mine nor in my husband's. So, again, why would I?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:00 PM
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Let's wait for his answer, maybe he has some kind of reasoning behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:55 AM
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No. It isn't about liking men, it's about one's libido and desirable frequency. Why would I try it? I find it disgusting. In the same way I don't have to try to eat dog poop to know that it's disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:55 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:54 AM
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Still I think he'd spend less money if he just travelled to a bigger city.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:53 AM
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I'm talking about the way a person words their preferences. You can make it insulting or not. Men here often prefer to make it as insulting as they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:52 AM
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You don't have to move to find people from different cultures when you live in a very culturally diverse country. You also didn't answer my question, I wonder why.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:51 AM
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More doesn't mean better and "more" isn't something the majority of women strive for in terms of sex. That's just the conditions you put yourself in. You do it, because you're into it, not because you have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:49 AM
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No, if you talk about morals. Even if you specify that casual is immoral for women to do, by having casual sex with women you make them worse LTR partners in the future and that's immortal according to your own beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:47 AM
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You don't have to give them a specific answer, you can leave them with a vague one. If it isn't something that greatly hingers their dating success and something they can change, there's no much point in giving it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:46 AM
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It also can seem to be hypocritical, if a person deems casual sex/high n-counts immoral, but is promiscuous themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:45 AM
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If you claim that something is immoral, it's hypocritical of you do indulge in it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:45 AM
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It isn't similar yo "I'd never date a slut". The equivalent would be "men under 5'xx aren't real men" or something like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:44 AM
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You can say that you have different values and you don't find hers compatible to yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 10:55 AM
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You don't have to be a pickme to have sex. In fact, most women aren't pickmes and most of them don't have any issues with having sex. Not when you look at the full picture - you leech off your mother, you hire prostitutes for your man, he doesn't bring anything to the table besides his dick and even for this you have to devalue yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 10:48 AM
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There's a difference between values, morals and physical preferences. If you think that casual sex is immoral, you shouldn't have it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 10:37 AM
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Hello, sorry, I prefer not to talk about politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 10:34 AM
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The reaction you get when you list your preferences/standards depends on what standards you've listed, what's your reasoning behind them and how you've worded all of it. From what I've seen men who get a strong negative reaction tend to form their points close to "I'd never date a slut/No hymen, no ring" etc. It's just rude. You can have preferences without name-calling people who don't fit them. It also can seem to be hypocritical, if a person deems casual sex/high n-counts immoral, but is prom…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 10:33 AM
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Are you planning to marry a foreign woman or just have flings? I'd also imagine that there are lots of women from other countries in Canada, you have good immigration policies.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 10:24 AM
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You might be stuck in a negative loop - you feel ignored, you ignore others, treat them poorly and in return you really do get ignored and treated poorly. You might have been not popular among women before that, sure, but your current attitude just makes it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 10:09 AM
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What for again? I really doubt that any woman looks up to you. There's nothing admirable about your lifestyle or achievements for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 10:08 AM
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What for? I'd guess that women who really do follow your content, do it because they like getting cringed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 08:52 AM
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What? I'm not a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 08:27 AM
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"I avoid women of my age, troll them, inconvenience them, think they want to manipulate or use me" - are you really surprised that you don't have any positive experience with them? If you really can't help but feel used/manipulated, I'd advise you to go on therapy. It seems similar to the problem when a person thinks that everyone laughs at them, everyone is here to get them etc. You aren't as important as you think, most men and women usually don't care much for others they don't know well and …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 06:08 AM
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The OP asked for details, I've given them some.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 05:45 AM
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Have no idea what it is. We've only recently started getting some "fancy" beers here, so the range is very narrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 05:45 AM
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Thanks :)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 05:43 AM
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I wouldn't be okay with it. Sure, it's a robot, not another human being, but it's a robot that is a very good imitation of another woman/man. Considering the specifications you've given, this robot can have a personality, keep a conversation going, all in all imitate a human being with the caveat that you have full control over it and its own goal is to please you. I also doubt that our brains will be able to differentiate between the two and that people won't start falling in love with their se…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 05:36 AM
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He'll either eat you or turn into maniac.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:04 AM
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"I'm fine, thanks. I don't see meeting anyone new though, my husband will be there in a minute".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:01 AM
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Okay, I want beer. But I know that I'll make a few sips and that'll be it and hubby won't drink it as he isn't into beer. I guess I should look up some fancy craft beer in those small bottles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 07:23 PM
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No and no. I'm demi, sexual attraction for me comes only with romantic one and they both are based on emotional connection and smell, not purely on one's appearance. So if I find a person romantically attractive, I find them physically attractive as well. I wouldn't date someone who I wasn't into, because what for? I've also never developed attraction to a person who got more attractive over time. If we haven't developed any connection and/or I don't find their smell attractive, them losing some…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 07:16 PM
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I hope it is. I also think she might have been ignoring some sings here and there and now she's got the one she can't just close her eyes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 06:20 PM
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It isn't really about a light switch, it's about his expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 06:20 PM
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It greatly depends on the context. There are petty people of both genders who have issues with getting or staying in relationships, so they encourage others to break up/cheat/treat their partner poorly. Misery loves company. But they're a minority in my view. I'd say that more often women look out for and take care of each other. It's often easier to see red flags when you aren't the one dating them. I was advised to date around a bit by my older cousins, when it was clear that my first relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 06:19 PM
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Great. Also maybe a culture difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 06:02 PM
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I don't think she wanted an uncaring partner who thinks that nothing will have to be changed now that she's pregnant and later on when they'll have a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 06:01 PM
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Also might be a lack of experience and sample bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 06:00 PM
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He isn't really doing his part as a loving and caring husband father-to-be.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 05:58 PM
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Well, whatever their reasons are a lot of people prefer not to air their dirty linen to their friends and family. I'm not sure why it surprises you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 05:57 PM
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Ohh...you've reminded me the time when I was accused of being anorexic and not eating properly when I had fainting issues and those crappy doctors weren't able to find what the hell was wrong with me. And I wasn't anorexic or starving myself, I was just a thin pale teen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 05:55 PM
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Because they know they can give wrong impression. Also because not everyone is comfortable to wash dirty linen in public that actually knows them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 05:52 PM
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So it's another reason why a lot of people choose not to talk about it with their friends and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 05:50 PM
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I hope it's just some fictional writing, but holy shit. You don't start trying for a baby without discussing in all details how you both are going to adjust to you being pregnant, possibly feeling shitty for a few months, having complications, having a newborn in your home etc. You just don't. It also seems like a good moment for reconsidering this pregnancy altogether if she isn't really comfortable with the idea of becoming a single mother one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 05:49 PM
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It depends. You can have minor issues, but if you always talk about them with your friends/family, they can get worse ideas about your partner than they're in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 05:42 PM
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No, it's more about not creating a bad image for your partner. I get it although I think that it can be harmful, because if you're getting abused, you might ignore the red flags and your close one could help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 05:32 PM
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From what I've seen a lot of people prefer not to discuss their relationships issues with their friends or family. You might solve your issues with your partner, but your friends and family will still remember about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 05:28 PM
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That's good news. Sorry you've got your DM full of assholes, hope next time you log in, there'll be less of them. Wish you all the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 04:07 PM
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I have 7 points though :) But yeah, love languages are a neat way to discuss the ways you want your partner to express their love and admiration and how you can make feel loved as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 02:55 PM
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There is spontaneity and there's irresponsibility. I don't really agree with the OP mixing them up. Sure, spontaneous decisions can be irresponsible, it doesn't mean that all of them really are. If you're a student on a summer break, travelling to a nearby city on a whim or even to another country if you can afford it, is cool. If you're a parent, it's another story. Having an LTR/marriage/kids, sure, means that you can't be as spontaneous as you used to be and if you can't or don't want to adju…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 02:53 PM
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Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 08:28 AM
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Did you have a father in your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 08:24 AM
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That would concern me, but I wouldn't date a guy who has had flings to start with. That's not really my cup of tea. I also think that deleting any nudes/videos you've got from your exes is a decent thing to do, although you aren't obliged to. It's decent towards your exes and it's decent towards your current partner. Would you be okay with your partner keeping her exes' nudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 07:35 AM
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One can't get attracted by sheer will power. And if a woman isn't attracted to you, it doesn't mean she's the problem. Or that you're the problem. Often people just aren't compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 05:51 AM
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If I were her, I'd consider divorce. I'm not sure how one can recover from this, it's very similar to cheating but also worse in the sense that he violated her privacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 05:45 AM
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I'm not sure it was a smart move from the boyfriend telling her he faps to his friends' photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 05:43 AM
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I wouldn't date a person who wasn't planning to relocate as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 05:26 AM
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Total offtop, but I'll answer your other comment about marriage tomorrow. Yesterday got tired and today just forgot, sorry!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 06:51 PM
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I think both men and women with acute FOMO syndrome aren't seen as good possible partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 06:34 PM
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I used to study in a field with lots of women. I think there was a fair share of girls who were in LTRs or got into one fairly quickly. They just didn't do casual dating and some of them got married soon after the graduation. Both girls and boys who seemed to be a good catch got into relationships without any issues. There were quite a lot of girls who just refused dating though, as they were planning to concentrate on their studies and lots of them wanted to move to another country or at least …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 06:23 PM
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Most care only for human beings. Interesting, I've seen it more about being compassionate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 06:18 PM
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She'll never understand animal rights activists who support abortions, but I guess she has no clue that sometimes when volunteers get a cat/dog from the street and it has an early/middle pregnancy, they often spray it aborting its pregnancy by doing so. That's a pretty common practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 05:58 PM
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It is :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 03:58 PM
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A lack of communication and a lack of exploration and caring for each other can cause it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 03:57 PM
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Yep, got downvoted too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 03:49 PM
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I've had 2 exams today and baked some bread to take my head off university tasks. Kneading dough is relaxing and the smell of freshly baked bread is one of the best in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 03:48 PM
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I think it took a few months for me and my husband to figure out how I can get mine each time we have sex. The idea of women not having any orgasms or barely any during most of their sexual history is just sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 03:45 PM
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I feel so sorry for women who can relate to her. Sex without orgasms seems to be rather...dull. Sure, it's cool if you enjoy it, emotional connection yada yada, but I'd imagine that without consistent orgasms it isn't going to be that fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 03:40 PM
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In the context of dating they often change each other. Also hard preferences probably can be counted as requirements, but in this case OP's question doesn't make much sense, as all non-negotiable preferences turn into requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 03:31 PM
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Pretty much the same, although we have different sets or requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 03:12 PM
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Combining penetration with external stimulation gives you higher chances to have an orgasm. Do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 03:11 PM
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Physical touch and not just in a sexual way. I'm extremely cuddly, I need lots of hugs, kisses etc. Emotional needs. Getting support when you need it, being heard and understood. Being able to open up and be vulnerable with them. Experience my partner's vulnerability as well, them being able to communicate their worries and feelings, allowing me to support them etc. Quality time. We need to regularly spend time with each other either doing something or just talking. They should enjoy it as well …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 02:36 PM
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It's cool :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 11:28 AM
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I don't think that people eat out much right now, but it's a fun way to have a break from your routine, enjoy the company and good food you didn't have to cook yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 11:27 AM
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I don't have much of visual preferences, they're pretty much "don't be deformed/ugly", but I have a lot of preferences in regards of one's personality, beliefs, future plans, age, educated etc. and most of them aren't negotiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 11:13 AM
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We usually change face, hands and intimate area towels each 3-4 days, feet towel in a week or two, because it's used just to stand on after shower and bath towels get washed after 3-4 uses.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 12:55 AM
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I think a lot of these women could do more by putting their efforts into something else...besides becoming prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:28 PM
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I hope not, but I guess I'll know in a few hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:24 PM
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From what I've heard some model and escort courses are pretty much the qualifying round to become a high-paying prostitute/sugar baby. Some girls get there by mistake and can't leave as they own these schools/courses money, some do their best to get there. I have no idea how common this shit is though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:21 PM
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I'm tired to the point where I start feeling nausea. Or I've got food poisoning and I'm gonna take 2 exams tomorrow holding a bucket nearby.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:19 PM
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Not sure about the US, in Russia these coaches push more the idea of being a "bitch" or just teach women how to be high-paid prostitutes, so I think at least some their students do know what they're getting into. 50's stuff is mostly taught by religious and/or tradcon coaches and it isn't really about wealthy men, but just about men in general and often about saving an existing marriage. The worst thing is that they often preach to women who are clearly in abusive relationships or in relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:07 PM
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My husband: he's confident, can easily talk to strangers, has a good sense of humor. He dives deeply into his interests and hobbies and it fascinates me how he seems to know everything about music and can find an old song just by my awkward description of a video to it. He's fast to learn and makes you believe that he can do anything given enough time. He makes me feel at ease just by being present. When we just met he also was my "guide", as I didn't know the town and he was living there for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 09:23 AM
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Not when one is a minor.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 05:19 AM
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The concept has far wider meaning rather than the parts of the word. Feminism isn't against marriage, it's against women not having the choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:53 AM
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Admitting that there are some things that still get taught generation to generation doesn't mean you don't take accountability. In the same way men are taught to tie their value to their sexual and/or financial success, don't show much emotions etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:44 AM
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I'm not really sure that I got your point. I think you can be very warm and responsive with your partner while not being easily manipulated, swayed or influenced by other men/women. My husband is like this - he's almost always there for me and he's almost always glad to spend time with me, whether we're doing something sexual, just cuddling or something else. He's rather restrained with others though and he doesn't let people affect him easily. He has healthy boundaries and he's never made me qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:08 PM
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I think it might be a cultural difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:49 PM
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Unfortunately, it doesn't always work like this, but I'd prefer not to talk about politics tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:48 PM
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There have been massive strikes. They don't help much.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:47 PM
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I guess they didn't want to end up in jail. No one wanted to take responsibility. So the woman is dead now. It isn't really their fault, it's the fault of the government, church, people who supported this law.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:42 PM
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I don't think that women nor men deserve this shit just because their government is deeply religious one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:40 PM
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And another Polish woman died because doctors didn't take out a dead fetus out of her in time due to their religious laws. At the end of December, a patient, Agnieszka, who was pregnant with twins, was admitted to the Częstochowa hospital. According to the clinical report, a few days later one of the twins died, but according to Polish law, the extraction of a dead fetus is prohibited. A week later, the second of the twins died, and only two days later the doctors were allowed to perform an abor…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:35 PM
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I think a lot of people here move to study in other cities, but their parents keep providing for them financially and/or there are college dormitories that are very cheap to live in. So people older than 16. No, a woman dating a teen doesn't sound any better. I think adults shouldn't date teens whatever their genders are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:30 PM
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Keep telling it yourself I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:28 PM
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They can do whatever they want as long as it's legal. I'm free to feel disgusted by it though, it doesn't mean I'm gonna stop random old men from dating some random young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:27 PM
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I don't think that the desire to have an orgasm is the same as desire to have sex. And for libido the latter is more important. Even asexual can masturbate and have orgasms, it doesn't prove much.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:26 PM
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I think it's more about your own struggles rather than about objective harm. Although in this regard it's hard to estimate it, so it's all purely subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:21 PM
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I'd guess that less men than women live up to this age to start with. So I wouldn't call this difference a big one. Factor men who are just above poverty live as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:20 PM
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Thanks. I don't think it's based on something logical, although I can see lots of downsides of such relationships. It's mostly due to my bad experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:18 PM
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I think there's a huge difference between a 16 y.o. and a 20 y.o. Not sure about the US, but in Russia a 16 y.o. is still at school. They live with their parents, who are still responsible for them. A 20 y.o. is at university, army or is already working. Far more of them live on their own or in students dormitories. They have far more freedom and more experience than teens. Sure, there's a huge difference between them and people in their 40s, but they at least carry some responsibility for thems…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:13 PM
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If she starts it, an adult should reject her, that's simple. Not fuck a teen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:09 PM
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No, it's just the argument that a lot of men use for justifying their own cheating that I don't really agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:04 PM
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You really don't get it, do you? Older men hitting on me disgust me because I've had bad experience as a teen. Seeing much older men with young girls disgusts me for the same reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:00 PM
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It's an interesting take. Had you planned to date them long-term? I'm not sure how one can treat as a not big of a deal if they were deep in love with each other tbh. I'd also like you to discuss the rest of my comment besides the first sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:55 PM
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I guess I have a strong aversion towards older men now due to my bad experience as a teen with that grooming attempt and a few cases of adult men sexually harassing me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:50 PM
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Get cheated on and then report us about how non-traumatizing it is. If you really want to have an honest question, it is mostly about trust, intimacy and security. If you can't trust your partner to hold their word and promises, if they've cheated on you once, then there's a life of suspicion ahead of you. Do they really have a lot of work today or are they fucking someone? Do they really have to go on a work trip or are they fucking someone? Maybe they have kids on the side you have no idea abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:50 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:42 PM
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Where have I said it's grooming? It just disgusts me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:40 PM
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Sure, it doesn't make it any better for a 20 y.o. to date a 16 y.o. There's still a huge gap between them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:39 PM
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A bit bigger than that. It's too much for me, so he has to be very careful in this position.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:34 PM
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I'm sorry for your experience. I think you've misunderstand my point though. I don't have issues with older men. I have issues with older men hitting on young girls and older men hitting on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:36 PM
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Look at blackpill and u/gimpgirl555 content.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:34 PM
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So at 20 you were far closer to it than at 16.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:10 PM
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Well, I'd expect that you were less naïve at 20 than you were at 16? I guess it depends on one's experience, but I think at 20 I was pretty much an adult. I got married a year later. But at 16 I've just moved to another city to study and was very inexperienced, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:05 PM
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No, I'm 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:04 PM
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They're free to do whatever they want, sure. I still can feel the disgust, just like I can be disgusted with some sexual kinks or preferences. As I've said in my other comment, it's most likely the result of my bad experience as a teen. I've never dated an older man, but there was a guy who tried to groom me. Nothing bad happened, I just got my scare. Plus, there've been a few instances of much older men harassing me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:00 PM
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They're closer to an adult and they're an adult legally.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:00 PM
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I don't think it has much of a logical reasoning under it. I'll copy my comment if you don't mind. I've been in the position of a teen who an adult tried to groom. Fortunately they weren't successful. And I'm still in the position of a young woman who gets hit on by much older men from time to time. Both situations give me the same disgust, but I guess I have a strong aversion towards older men now due to my bad experience as a teen with that grooming attempt and a few cases of adult men sexuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 01:58 PM
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I've said that the first one is worse, haven't I? Emotionally-wise both these situations disgust me. I'd be far more worried for a teen though. I've been in the position of a teen who an adult tried to groom. Fortunately they weren't successful. And I'm still in the position of a young woman who gets hit on by much older men from time to time. Both situations give me the same disgust, but I guess I have a strong aversion towards older men now due to my bad experience as a teen with that grooming…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 01:57 PM
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Pretty equally, yes. Why do you think it's insane?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 01:50 PM
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The first one is worse, because a 16 y.o. teen is still a minor and they've been groomed by an adult. A 45 and a 20 y.o. is creepy, but it's at least legal and a 20 y.o. has more chances to be their own person at this age. Both make me disgusted though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 01:26 PM
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Both married men and women tend to do better financially. Older single women tend to do somewhat worse than older single men, but the difference is 6.9%. There are enough older single men in poverty as well. https://www.economicpolicyresearch.org/media/k2/items/cache/8f704c6e91e045c72378c71d940a59ce_XL.jpg?t=20190404_205634
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 10:47 AM
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There are far more older single women than younger ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 10:33 AM
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It seems there are far more young women who struggle financially rather than older ones. https://www.statista.com/statistics/233154/us-poverty-rate-by-gender/#:\~:text=In%202019%2C%20the%20poverty%20rate,65%20and%2074%20years%20old.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 10:19 AM
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Depends greatly on the age we're talking about. Older women usually have been married/in relationships and lots of them choose to stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 10:08 AM
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Sure, there are lots of women who settle, there are also lots of single women who choose to stay single. More than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 09:31 AM
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Without some serious changes in male biology, I doubt it will ever happen. Men are bad at pushing for their own rights when it requires them to reduce the amount of sex they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 09:28 AM
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The issue is that an average man would rather have sex with a partner he's mild/neutral about, but an average woman would rather stay single over settling with someone she doesn't find attractive and suitable for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:39 AM
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Patriarchy isn't just about marriage, it's about men having the power over women in the first place. Whether in marriage, society, politics or economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 07:24 AM
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Okay, you deleted you account and I haven't had time to answer you, but maybe you'll read it from your alt. Tangible effects on women can be found in stats about women getting killed by their partners, getting stalked, stats about sexual violence etc. Not sure about the US, but in Russia the practice to hire and raise men over women is still rather common and popular. There's still a strong push against abortions and it does affect women's lives and well-being, some people also want to make it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:24 AM
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Depends on a woman. For some it might be too much to take in this position.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:18 AM
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Thanks for kind words :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:04 AM
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Suki and Katara. I wish to be more like Suki - strong, being able to protect your loved ones. I like that she has her sisterhood, it's something I aspire to. I think I have some common traits with Katara though, like the strong need to care for and support others.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:54 AM
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Aragorn, because he's loyal beyond any measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 05:29 PM
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I'm giving you an argument against your claim that for something to have a tangible effect, it has to be written in the law. Will you admit you're wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 05:28 PM
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It's 1.12 for us. I guess I'm shorter than average though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 05:21 PM
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You can believe that it doesn't have much of effect, just like white people might believe that there's no racism in the US. I'm arguing with your claim that for something to have a tangible effect it has to be written in laws. It's clearly not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 05:18 PM
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I think age gap relationships might be risky for the younger party. It doesn't mean they should be illegal, but people should be warned about the risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:54 PM
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So they are disadvantaged although it isn't really set anywhere in the laws. So women (and men) can be disadvantaged because of certain beliefs common in society. Or people of color are disadvantaged due to racism although it's clearly not in the laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:53 PM
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I'd prefer them to ask for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:49 PM
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You haven't answered my question yourself. Do you think that short men are disadvantaged in dating? It isn't really written in law anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:47 PM
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Okay, you seem to be unable to debate in good faith, have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:45 PM
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Again, you're either debating in a bad faith and deliberately misinterpret my point or you can't comprehend it. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:41 PM
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Well, do you think that short men are disadvantaged in dating? They surely are, but it isn't written anywhere in laws. The thing is that when or if a belief or preference that comes from this beliefs are common and wide-spread enough, it doesn't have to possess any legal power, it still can affect you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:38 PM
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There are lots of possible complications, of course, not all of them are tied to one's weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:21 PM
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Belief doesn't have to be a part of the law to be common in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:19 PM
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Because fathers-in-law had all power over them and they almost never got punished for raping these girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:18 PM
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Does it make any better for his bride? I think you're missing the whole point of snokhachestvo . She was getting raped by her husband's father.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:15 PM
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Because a single woman usually has far less chores than a married woman with kids. Or even a woman who cohabitates with a man who doesn't do his share of chores. Also when you're the one doing everything you start feeling resentment towards your partner or even just your roommate who doesn't do their share. If there's too much of it, sex gets out of the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:13 PM
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Do you think men here don't downvote? Really? Also where have I said that women always debate in good faith? Are you debating here in bad faith yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:11 PM
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It doesn't really refute the point that men fought against other men. If you want to praise men for protecting others, you should also admit that it was men killing others and each other. I'm alive because my ancestors, both male and female, worked hard for their survival. The cost wasn't paid just for women's rights. It was paid for freedom of both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:11 PM
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Are you asking for specific countries or specific beliefs? If countries, you can look at countries closer to the end of the list. If you're asking about patriarchal beliefs in Western countries - there are lots of people who share deeply patriarchal beliefs like "women should stay at home" or "women's main purpose is to give birth and raise kids" or "women are too emotional to make decisions for themselves". These people are a minority, sure, but a very loud one. Less extreme, but far more popul…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:08 PM
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Yeah, I've seen that study. I'd guess it's heavily tied to religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:55 PM
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Nope, but thanks :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:54 PM
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Yes, finding someone who you "click" can be very hard, especially if you don't meet new people very often and don't really develop any connections with them. That depends greatly. From one hand, some women fetishize men in uniforms and they view military guys as very masculine, organized etc. I guess there are also some financial benefits, as military families get rent-free apartments/rooms in dormitories, I might be wrong, but I think people who have worked a really long time in the army can ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:54 PM
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Would you say that slavery isn't all bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:43 PM
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I'm not really in favor of quotas, it's surely not the ideal solution. It might somewhat help the minorities, women, the old, whatever group they favor, but it also makes anyone related to one of these groups seen as if they got their job just because they have this one traits, whether they're a woman, a PoC etc. It isn't a good look. From the other hand, we don't really live in meritocracy. People do favor candidates that share their background, their race etc. I think a better solution might b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:42 PM
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System as it was before doesn't exist now, sure, we still have lots of patriarchal beliefs in our societies. There are also deeply patriarchal societies worldwide. I compare your logic to logic of people who say that if you don't like racism/slavery, you should go back to your home country. Not a lack of rights to slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:38 PM
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Men fought with other men. If you want to count men dying, you should count men killing as well. Also women in Russia got most if not all their rights before the WWII, thanks to the Revolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:34 PM
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Our society isn't as bad as we might think especially if we compare it to our past. Patriarchy is oppressive though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:33 PM
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Some women, sure. I wouldn't generalize all of them and just because there are so much more men here, we see far more bullshit from them than from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:32 PM
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Yep, been there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:30 PM
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You might think you're reasonable, it doesn't make you one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:22 PM
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It would be interesting to see a study controlling for age of marriage, n-counts and religiosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:13 PM
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I can get why people might block you - debates with you are rarely in good faith. But it seems blocking is against rules now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:12 PM
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It happened a few times when I was single. I always said that no, I had never dated anyone and got even more questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:48 PM
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Not really sure about long-term, as early marriages seem to have higher divorce rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:28 PM
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That doesn't work like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:27 PM
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If you're a a man and want to marry a virgin, you have more chances if you start dating and marry early. It doesn't mean that your marriage will work long-term.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 06:10 AM
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Why do you think his wife doesn't know his height? She might not know the exact number, but she has eyes, doesn't she?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 05:58 AM
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I guess for a person who doesn't know me at all I look like a normie. Although they can notice my ring and then they have questions about my age, as a lot of people still take me for a teen. I'm in my middle 20s. Again, due to rather early marriage and the avoidance of reveling clothes most of the time, people can think that I'm traditional. I'm not. If they talk a bit to me, they might think I'm somewhat nerd-ish. I study IT, play computer games, read comixes (not about superheroes though) and …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 05:22 AM
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I'm okay as long as they're attracted to me and find me attractive. I don't see any reason to strive for their ideal, I want to be comfortable in my body and be able to like it myself. Having said that I guess I wouldn't date someone who was heavily into a completely different appearance and wanted me to fit their standard. I don't let people decide how I should look like and I'd consider this kind of behavior is controlling and in some cases borderline abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:56 AM
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I'm not sure that it's necessarily tied to one's genetics. There are lots of possible complications.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:03 PM
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So neither tools nor conditions for performing a surgery are natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:57 PM
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Most non-feminist countries still enjoy benefits of feminism and women's rights. Also China has its share of feminists, but they censoring them heavily.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:57 PM
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Well, women who care because it can happen to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:56 PM
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I find it interesting that you think that female teens getting raped by their even younger husbands' fathers were less affected somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:55 PM
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No, I'm making a comparison. There are people who use the same logic in regards of slavery and racism. I'm thankful to people who kept pushing our development further. Not to the system that kept women in the position where they didn't have most rights and opportunities men did.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:52 PM
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Your argument makes as much sense as the argument "oh, you don't like slavery and racism? Well, go live in _put a country or even just a continent here_!" although a person was born and has grown up in the same country as the speaker. Development goes spiral and we generally don't abandon everything we've learnt and developed when we're trying to change some parts of our society. We keep the good and discard the bad, not just return to caves and start again trying another route.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:38 PM
6

I've read a completely opposite opinion several times here. Some men were saying that ugly/average women compensate for it with bitchy attitude and more attractive women are nice, because they get treated well by others as well. I guess it's mostly the question of one's sample.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:32 PM
4

Usually women came to live to groom's family and not vice versa. Because as far as I remember young wives were seen as additional labor force that grooms' families got and their position in hierarchy was the lowest. Also considering the article we're discussing, I doubt that if grooms were coming to live with brides' families, their fathers could rape their brides in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:23 PM
5

I'd guess it's what a lot if not most women mean by this phrase. I'm not into casual and I still can use this phrase, because imv it means someone who you find attractive and suitable for an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:16 PM
1

Not sterile scalpels though. I'm sure you wouldn't want to get your abdomen cut open by a rock.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:12 PM
3

I might be wrong, but I think these grooms just kept living in their own families. It isn't okay, sure, but in this situation both a groom and a bride are victims. When it's reversed, a groom is most often a perpetrator, as well as her parents of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:11 PM
2

Are you surprised?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:07 PM
4

It doesn't mean that, sure, but if you're unlucky enough you can get life-long health issues that might affect your weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:06 PM
-1

"Keep society running" - like medical and educational fields for example? Or taking care of the small, old or ill? Also service jobs do keep society running at least economically-speaking. And depending on the country women make up for a good share of farming workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:03 PM
1

Tools are human-made though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:50 PM
1

Linking to a subreddit isn't really elaborating, but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:47 PM
1

I guess by "natural" people usually mean something that can be found in the nature. Not human-made.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:39 PM
1

I'm afraid her dude is unable to live on his own now. I doubt he can do the taxes or anything that an adult is supposed to do
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:56 PM
1

It's understandable that if you're pissed with your partner, you don't want to fuck them. It doesn't mean that you're punishing them or treating sex as a reward though. Not being in the mood != punishing your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:48 PM
1

It depends greatly on how we define "natural", sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:47 PM
5

I'm pretty sure that slicing your tummy to fish and cut out appendix isn't really natural. As well as doing it in a sterile environment, so you wouldn't die from sepsis later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:46 PM
2

That's unusual.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:38 PM
8

Not dying from appendicitis or stroke is also not natural. I doubt you want to live in the woods with no medical care though. So whether something is natural or not isn't really an argument for or against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:36 PM
2

Thanks for the info :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:34 PM
1

From licking hair?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:34 PM
1

Don't really get you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:29 PM
1

I guess when it's on one's jaw chances of migration are lower than if it's in lips or under eyes? I've read a bit, it sounds terrifying tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:26 PM
2

Hair makes it harder for your partner to give you a head.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:22 PM
2

Fillers are known for their ability to migrate. I'm curious to see what u/SmurfESmurferson will say though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:20 PM
1

Again, if you aren't in the mood, it isn't really a punishment. Not wanting to have sex is okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:17 PM
1

Can you elaborate on your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:16 PM
1

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:45 PM
1

That means he can't be called a "lone wolf".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:20 PM
16

Because I was talking about women being repressed, wasn't I? And I was clearly talking about it negatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:20 PM
0

Your man is literally a kept man who most likely wouldn't be able to survive without you and your mother's money at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:10 PM
1

It definitely seems so.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:09 PM
24

If you're into that, it doesn't mean that the majority of women are. Most people don't share your kink, whether you're ready to admit it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:08 PM
5

It's great for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:07 PM
12

Because we had men who took care of us. Imagine trading that for the vote. They did a rather bad job, so women decided to take care of themselves, well, themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 12:57 PM
22

I guess you want to talk purely about sexual freedom, as in terms of social hierarchy women were lower than men during most part of our history. I'll copy my old comment if you don't mind. Note that I'm gonna talk about Russia. Also note that by "students' the author means only men. In 1909 in Moscow a brochure was published with the results of a statistical study conducted among students of Moscow State University. The results of the survey showed that about 60% (almost two-thirds of students a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 12:56 PM
5

They don't really beg people, it seems they want countries to change their policies. He stressed that the priority must be on supporting countries to vaccinate 40 per cent of their populations as quickly as possible, and 70 per cent by the middle of 2022. I really doubt it's going to happen though. Humanity isn't really great at helping the ones in need and I'd expect countries to prioritize keeping their own rates lower even if it prolongs pandemic worldwide.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 12:36 PM
1

Women are free to find men's preferences disturbing and vice versa. You're free to have whatever preferences you want and others are free to judge you for it. Of course, you can judge them back. I don't really want to read and count all 780 comments in the thread. Do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 09:54 AM
1

I've got through comments diagonally. I've done it again, so out of top 10 comments 4 can be counted as somewhat negative. I'm sure there are women who got offended over it, but it doesn't mean that the majority of us shares their views.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 09:22 AM
3

Of course, they are. She hasn't said anything otherwise, she's talking about her feelings about it. Not sure about all comments, but the top ones seem to be decent. What comments do you have issues with? I'm sure there are women who got offended over it, but it doesn't mean that the majority of us shares their views.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 09:03 AM
5

What does it have to do anything with "my body, my choice"? She isn't against men having preferences, she's self-conscious.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 08:37 AM
1

I don't really get "sleeping on the couch", but I think you're conflating events here. It's understandable that if you're pissed with your partner, you don't want to fuck them. It doesn't mean that you're punishing them or treating sex as a reward though. Not being in the mood != punishing your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 08:34 AM
2

Okay, let's clarify it - most women don't treat it as a reward and sex shouldn't be seen as one. Sex is a mutually pleasurable bonding experience, not something women have to give men for being good boys. Choreplay doesn't mean that she gets turned on by you doing the dishes, it's bullshit. She has more chances to get into the mood if she isn't exhausted though and it does make sense both for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 08:32 AM
2

What has feminism to do with it? It's always been this way, women had little bargain power though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 08:26 AM
2

We see that men disagree. It doesn't mean we'll start treating it as a reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 08:25 AM
0

Again, I'm not going to convince men that they should change their mind, I was explaining my own point of view. Men do the same all the time, there's nothing wrong with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 08:25 AM
1

Thanks :) As I've said in the other comment, it's not that we have ideal relationship, we just both try to make it work. Having similar values and plans helps a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:16 AM
16

I don't think that life-long relationships are really "natural". It doesn't mean they're bad or you shouldn't strive for them, but it means that you have to put a lot of efforts in it and at times probably work against your biology and urges. Women overall have lower libido, I guess after the initial stages of dating full of lust and great neuromediators, everything just returns to normal. For some this normal bar is extremely low, for some it's just right. It often goes lower than normal though…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:56 AM
1

Because it seems that men clump everyone together.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:39 AM
2

I don't think a good therapist would necessarily start bashing FDS seeing that their client is clearly deep into it, even if they found it unhealthy and toxic. Also not all therapists are good therapists. You should seek the one that can help you. There are lots of bad doctors in all branches, it doesn't mean that we should treat themselves with herbs and manure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:36 AM
1

Can't speak for the US dating market, but I wouldn't say that there are a lot of good options in the Russian one. There are enough of them, but that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:33 AM
4

A lot of women by "B" mean that there are enough decent options, but they aren't really options for them for various reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:31 AM
2

I think on out first or second date I told my husband that I support LGBTQ+ community, don't eat meat and I'm into feminism. I named things that objectively could scare him off considering that we're both from Russia and people here are rather homophobic and conservative. I wanted to be upfront, so he'd know who he was going to date and if he wasn't okay with it, neither of us would waste our time. I guess if I had high n-counts, I'd include them into this list of necessary info as well, but in …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:28 AM
1

I don't think that she's a feminist though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:14 AM
2

I guess you don't deserve them then.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:03 AM
5

It's B for me with the twist that I realize there are enough men who could be decent options if I didn't have extremely narrow preferences combined with demisexuality. Although I guess most of my preferences come from the latter and it's not that I can actively ignore them. Most people don't even get on my "radar", I feel zero attraction probably to 99,999% of population considering that I've ever got attracted to less than 10 people. I wouldn't say that there's an abundance of good options. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:59 AM
4

This is why I have a zero tolerance policy with cheaters and “ex” cheaters. Agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:58 PM
2

What's worse is that one of the girls is marrying a guy she's cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:56 PM
3

This video makes me nauseous.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:28 PM
3

Cheaters want to justify their lack of character and morals by whatever means possible. Of course, she says she wasn't loved enough and what not, but she's a bad guy in this story imv.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:17 PM
0

I think it rotates.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:36 PM
-1

They can be upset over the phrase all they want, it doesn't mean that women will stop using this phrase.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:25 PM
1

They can, you have to look for the approach and therapist that will work for you. Also you should put in real efforts and not do it just to prove that they don't work, as the latter just turns it into self-fulfilling prophecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:25 PM
2

It's still toxic and pathetic, it isn't a norm either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:13 PM
15

I have no idea why it's still a thing and I'd never do this to my child without a medical need. If there's no health issues, it should be considered as a genital mutilation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:10 PM
2

That's great, but it also doesn't really change my views on this desert. You can have it, but don't expect me to share it with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:07 PM
1

You can change "neither of them" with "most". Does it change things much?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:06 PM
1

So where am I wrong here?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:04 PM
1

So am I wrong and there are men who like jumping for sex like little puppies? I guess there are some kinky guys who are into this, but I doubt you'd argue that they're the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:02 PM
1

My perspective is that some men view sex as a reward and some don't. Neither of them likes jumping for it though and they prefer to be desired over rewarded. Where am I wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:59 PM
1

And did anyone really stick to it? It's utterly ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:56 PM
1

Well, you have to take the other person's perspective, don't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:56 PM
1

So I assume it's attraction. Like for most men. And it's exactly what I'm talking about - men don't like being "rewarded" with sex either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:53 PM
2

No, this isn't really an answer to my question. So is it dishes or attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:51 PM
2

Some women do use it as a leverage and it isn't healthy in any way. It doesn't make it a reward though, it just makes them kind of pathetic. My point is that this phrase can be used outside of the context you're giving here. Some women are strictly into LTRs, so it's either LTR/marriage material or nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:50 PM
2

So you would prefer her to have sex with you for dishes and not because she finds you sexually attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:47 PM
3

We can see that men view it as a reward and still don't treat it as one. And I'm sure that a lot men prefer it this way. You don't want your partner to have sex with you for doing dishes, you want her to desire you for who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:43 PM
5

Why exactly should we care that men view sex as a reward?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:38 PM
1

I got far more attention in China as a teen than I was used to normally in Russia, but it was mostly due to fair hair and skin. It's interesting to see how different cultures fetishize different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:28 PM
8

I'm sorry for your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:22 PM
6

Some women do and I find it unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:19 PM
8

Great and I'm saying that it's different for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:16 PM
1

I've never even heard about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:14 PM
6

The issue is that women don't share this view.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:13 PM
8

And it isn't for women. Most of us don't think that they "reward" men with sex. I have sex with my husband, because I want him, not because I want to reward him for being a great husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:09 PM
2

I'll just copy my old comment. Love. Loving and being loved feels great, gives you lots of these good neuromediators that turn you all warm, fuzzy and happy. Partnership. Having common plans and working on them together can be more efficient than working on everything alone. You also have someone to rely on in case of emergency. Companionship. You have someone to share good and bad times. Watching films, playing games, just walking around with a person you love makes everything better. And their…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:07 PM
8

Sex isn't a reward. Also this phrase and its variations can be used by women who aren't into casual scene altogether. For me it's either LTR material or no romantic relationship at all. Would you get offended over it as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:04 PM
1

No, if a person expects to be eaten out, they have to be clean. I'm not sure why I have to spell it out for you. Do you expect to get your dick sucked without washing it first? Women generally are more self-conscious about their smell.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 02:37 PM
2

*some women I'm not sure that it's something that all women experience, as I've genuinely thought that you'd made it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 02:30 PM
1

I think it might depend on the weight and how big one's butty is. No, if she's just out of the shower, it still doesn't make much sense. You're free not to do what you don't like in the bedroom, you don't really need justification for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 02:25 PM
1

In this case, yes, I agree with you. If you don't want/can't fulfil basic emotional needs, probably you shouldn't be dating altogether or should stick to flings/FWBs without any attachment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 02:09 PM
3

I usually read this phrase in the context of mental issues. If you're depressed, have PTSD etc. you need and should seek professional help. Expecting your partner to be your therapist is both dangerous and stupid. They should support you, sure, but they can't do therapist's work nor they can be in this supporting position 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:58 PM
1

What. The. Hell. I've had no idea it was a thing nor it's ever happened to me. Okay, I guess I should say sorry for not believing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:40 PM
1

Because you have a fixation on how disgusting vaginas are for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 12:22 PM
1

Some of them - maybe. But, again you need to provide a tangible proof for this claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:34 AM
4

With your mother's money.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:32 AM
4

Both of you are your mother's dependents.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:26 AM
2

Some women do it. As well as some men pursue (and marry) clearly not-for-LTR-women, gold diggers, women they know were/are cheating on their partners etc. BPD seems to attract a fair lot of men as well. To put it short, there are both men and women who willingly fuck themselves up. It doesn't mean they're the majority or that we should extrapolate their dating patterns on everyone else. And if you want to claim that it's true for most women, you should prove it not with an anecdotal evidence, as…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:26 AM
0

As I've said in another comment, we have our own issues. It isn't all good, but it's good nevertheless :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:15 AM
3

You do you, but you can't call yourself a provider. Both of you are your mother's dependents.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:15 AM
8

Sure. To claim that you're a provider, you should have your own income that is sufficient for your family.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 09:32 AM
1

It isn't much when you share the load, it can be a lot if you have to do it for your partner and kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 09:16 AM
2

You still have to manage them and remind your partner about the dates and what and when they should do. Also an app won't make a doctor's appointment, remind that the formula is going to end soon etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 09:01 AM
5

You pay for everything with your mother's money.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 09:01 AM
7

You aren't a provider, your mother provides for you and your whole family. Also what does he do as a househusband if you do all chores and have a nanny?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 08:36 AM
1

For this a person should share the belief that most men fall in AF or BB position.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 08:03 AM
2

I think it helps with having no worries or baggage of past experience, but I don't think it affect bonds much. Imv you bond over shared experience, being open and vulnerable with each other. Not over not having fucked others before.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 07:56 AM
1

Oh, I've watched it on YouTube! They're great.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 07:47 AM
1

That's great. I think most people might not get your position, so they think that it isn't really a safe option for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 07:45 AM
5

Narnia is dead. The last book has fucked me up as a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 07:44 AM
2

Well, we don't have a virgin marriage, as we didn't wait. What are the benefits though?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 07:44 AM
14

Thanks :) Tradcons can't deal with egalitarianism, as most of their beliefs are built on "men lead, women follow' premise. I find it rather ironic that I can possibly fit their mold in terms of early marriage and all, but most my beliefs will piss them off. I'm an egalitarian feminist, agnostic that have never shared Christian beliefs and was brought up in a Buddhist family by a single mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:54 AM
4

Some women are born without one, some lose it due to cancer and chemotherapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:46 AM
5

What are your plans on the future? What are your plans in case of break-up/him losing his job/getting ill? From a viewer it just doesn't seem safe. You depend on him bringing in money and without proper education and work experience you'll have hard times living on your own if something bad happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:45 AM
1

I'm demi, I've never got attracted to someone instantly, it always grows over time. It's the combination of attractive smell and personality. If I like them, if I find them interesting, I enjoy spending time with them and I'm into the way they smell, chances are high that I'll fall for them eventually. All people I've got interested in were kind, good at self-reflection, well-read, passionate about their work/hobby/study.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:41 AM
2

Thanks :) We have our own issues, I guess almost everyone has. For example, his family is far more conservative, it's a constant stress-inducing factor. But we manage it. I'm talking about it just to clarify that we don't have ideal marriage or anything, there are lows and highs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:38 AM
2

Emotional labor means not just meeting your partner's emotional needs. It's also (and maybe mostly) about domestic chores, child raising and especially managing and micromanaging the household. It's women who usually remember what a kid needs for school, the schedule of their vaccines, their food preferences, birthdays of husband's relatives and what they'd like to get as a gift, what groceries should be bought, how much clean clothes is there for husband to wear, when his doctor's appointment e…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:35 AM
2

A lack of vagina, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:29 AM
1

Thanks for the explanation! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:28 AM
1

Oh, I like dark mint chocolate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:28 AM
14

I'm in egalitarian marriage and my husband is my first and ever sexual/romantic partner. We aren't conservative, religious, we didn't wait till marriage nor we share the belief of some sacral value of virginity or pair bonding over having low n-counts. We're family-oriented though and we were lucky. I don't think that it goes much against the grain of blue pill, but it doesn't seem very common to marry early and your first partner. We got married at 21. I agree with the general advice that peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:17 AM
1

That was a joke and a smiley face was hinting on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:02 AM
1

I'd rather outsource this noble task to someone who can enjoy it to the fullest :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:00 AM
1

Well, it's rather hard to prove or disprove. We can say that there are men who claim to care about it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:43 AM
1

Don't have a dick, but can catch you up with a guy who doesn't mind fucking other guys, if you're interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:42 AM
1

Because your claim is utter bullshit. I also find your fixation on how disgusting giving a head is rather curious. Maybe you will enjoy sucking a dick more?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:39 AM
0

Yeah, all these angry and bitter guys would feel much better, if they got well dicked :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:23 AM
1

No, there are a few male users who admitted that they do think like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:12 AM
1

I guess it isn't necessarily justified, but it isnt surprising. He broke the rule "don't stick your duck in crazies" and now faces consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:10 AM
1

Sorry, don't really get you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:32 PM
1

Pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:26 PM
3

Of course it would be easier to push women in the role of constantly pregnant SAHMs, if they all shared Lori's brunch of Christianity. Thankfully they don't. And for agnostics/atheists the argument "but Bible says so" doesn't really work. Edit: this is even better. I guess she doesn't know that abortions were always a thing. Women used herbs, knitting needles, horse hair etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:25 PM
1

You should get a consultation from a specialist, I'm afraid an online test won't really clear things up for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:19 PM
1

That's a really long journey. And I thought that flying to Moscow is a long one, when it takes around 6 hours maximum.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:15 PM
1

I'm sorry you feel this way. Have you ever tried seeking professional help? If you suspect that you might have a spectrum, you might want to try to get a consultation with a specialist who works with non-neurotypical adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:13 PM
1

That must be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:07 PM
5

So you can't extrapolate it any further, okay. What are your chances to date a slim woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:03 PM
2

It isn't really the logic behind her choice here. She didn't say that she'd have sex with a guy she didn't like, I guess it's more about making a good impression or something in these lines. Personally I've never had casual. For me sex is one of the most vulnerable things you can share with another person, so I don't treat it lightly. I get that a lot of people feel the other way though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:02 PM
3

Can you extrapolate it any further?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:57 PM
6

And what should they learn instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:52 PM
1

They're great :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:37 PM
3

Can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:36 PM
2

Okay, thanks. I was confused with this word for some time :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:27 PM
5

Ugh, not the style I find visually appealing and I find all possible surgeries side-effects and complications concerning. The only thing I keep in the list of possibilities is doing something with my breast after we have kids. If we have any. Styles I like are all over the board though, starting with very feminine dresses and ending with tomboy Korean style. There are also Japanese Lolitas and naturecore in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:26 PM
2

Pickles mean everything pickled, don't they? Or are they just cucumbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:22 PM
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Yeah, that's why I added the second paragraph. You seem to have some great issues with weight as a nation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:18 PM
1

Well, at least you live in the same country. How long does it take you to travel to her? I'm planning to move eventually and I'm in the process of convincing my mother doing the same. For now the best working point is "what if you get grandkids".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:09 PM
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I'd guess the plan is not to let him know that she can be "easy". It isn't honest, I agree with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:02 PM
1

Sounds tough. Do you live nearby?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:01 PM
2

Btw, I got a craving for peanut butter, when I was in the middle of graduation exams. Ate a whole jar of it in two weeks and it never tasted better.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:00 PM
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If you're slim yourself, have good social skills and at least decent-looking, I don't think it should cause you any trouble. Because lots of young men don't possess these traits either. But then again I hardly can grasp the weight issue you seem to have in the US. Most girls in their 20s here are slim, so I guess young men don't really have much troubles at least with finding someone who has similar BMI.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 03:46 PM
1

I'm so happy to hear it! I guess she got treatment very early on? From what I've read it seems time is the key part in case of clots.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 03:44 PM
1

Okay, have no idea how either of these things taste. Should add to the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 03:41 PM
2

Maybe you needed more calories? My cousins told me that babies literally suck you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 03:40 PM
1

No, this chain is about labor division.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 03:39 PM
1

Okay, now I also want a hot dog. How's your mother now? Blood clots are terrifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 03:39 PM
1

I hope we'll move this year :) It'll depend how all this stuff with omicron will go.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:58 PM
1

Have never tried them either. Seafood isn't really popular here, the best way to try it out it to travel to Vladivoctok and it's like...a full journey.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:53 PM
1

That sounds tasty, but I've never tried one. I guess I should next time I'll get anywhere near ocean :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:49 PM
1

That's why some women prefer to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:49 PM
2

What do you sometimes crave in terms of food that you don't usually have a taste for? For some reason I really wanted some beans in tomato souse today.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:39 PM
1

I think you've mixed two discussions here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:36 PM
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Men who decide that if a woman has sex with them too soon, she's not a wife material.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:15 PM
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You won a wealthy mommy, that's all. I'm gonna listen to people who have actually achieved goals similar to mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:14 PM
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Women are still taught that men will see them "easy" if they have sex too soon. For me this dichotomy doesn't make much sense, as I wouldn't date someone I couldn't imagine as my long-term partner, whether a wife or husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:10 PM
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Oh, there are enough men who absolutely do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:07 PM
1

Whatever, you still leech off her. You aren't in any position to teach others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:58 PM
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Not I, but the author of the article. As I've said in the other comment, the issue isn't really in more hours, it's in their division. She wanted to work more, but her husband wanted her to do more chores and child raising. She couldn't just drop chores and kids and she wasn't okay with being a SAHM. So she dropped him instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:58 PM
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Well, they'll get at least somewhat fucked up. Still there'll be enough middle class and rich guys who can't be bothered with using condoms or vetting out crazies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:41 PM
1

I'd guess most men don't want to get jailed though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:15 PM
2

Don't men get jailed for not paying child support in the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 12:59 PM
3

So you've made it up. As well as her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:31 AM
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I was talking about Russia and no, it's rather hard to find stats as there are several reports with rather different numbers. Plus, a lot of cases don't get counted as murders. For example, if someone pushes a person from the stairs, they get into ER and die later on, chances are high that it will be classified as "wrongful death" and these cases often don't get counted as murders for some reason. I've never claimed that more women get killed than men, my point was that higher percent of women g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:26 AM
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You never know, maybe one day you will use it. Your husband can lose his job, get ill, cheat on you, leave you or die. It's better to have a plan B.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:57 AM
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Most women work because they have to. Some also want to combine it with what they're passionate about and there's nothing wrong about it. What do you find creepy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:55 AM
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That...doesn't really happen. Have you just made it up? As well as your GF...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:53 AM
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That's a great answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 06:44 PM
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I'd guess that women who care about n-counts tend to be either traditional, religious, low n-count themselves or something close to it as well. I'm not sure that they're the majority. I'm close to demisexuality, I have exactly one "count" and he's my husband. When I was looking for a partner, I was looking for someone with similar values and (a lack of) experience. It worked beautifully for me. Also a lot of women just want to avoid men who are into casual. It can be worded as caring for counts …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 06:41 PM
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You're welcome :)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 06:00 PM
2

Agree with this as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:58 PM
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It's a thing in some communities and a traditional-ish division of labor is still rather common. By this I mean men working longer hours and women doing more child raising and domestic chores. I don't think that hard core tradcon-ism is wide-spread though. And, no, u/geyges, being married to your first and only partner doesn't necessarily turn you into a trad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:57 PM
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Agree with this. Both men and women have issues tied to the same reasons - poverty, debt, a lack of social security etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:53 PM
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I don't like insects, but I can deal with them on my own. As well as with gutters. Don't have a car though, not even a license. I don't really trust my eye to hand coordination tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:52 PM
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No, I'm talking about times when collectivism was in the picture. At least in Russia. Women still were the ones responsible for kids and domestic chores, although kindergartens did help at least partially.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:16 PM
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It's still leeching. Lots of parents "get" grandkids without their kids leeching off them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:11 PM
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Turned out that ignoring women's issues doesn't really help them with getting equal division of labor. For some reason it's one thing to proclaim that men and women are equal and expect that women should work on par with men and the other to expect men to do their share of child raising and domestic chores on par with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:01 PM
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It is leeching if you expect your mother to provide for your whole family.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 04:52 PM
2

Cool, you still leech off your mother. You can't really argue with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 04:36 PM
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You can, I know similar stories though and I don't think they're that rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 04:21 PM
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I'm sorry. Now it's stuck in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 04:06 PM
2

I'm saying that men being more picky would actually help them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 03:58 PM
2

Sure, but we still can discuss it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 03:57 PM
1

Yep, you'll never know in advance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 03:05 PM
1

Well, if there are some people who are into eating shit, I'm sure there are some who like chewing a piece of period.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 02:59 PM
1

I'd guess that it has more unpredictable results though, as not all kids support their parents later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 02:55 PM
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Exactly. When I read it first time, I was both feeling deeply sorry for his victims and so fucking perplexed with how easy it was for him. They just took his invitation, they took drinks from him without even thinking that he was far too friendly for a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 02:51 PM
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What people talking about drinking period blood always forget is clumps in it. It's blood with shed uterine lining.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 02:46 PM
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I don't think that we realistically can do anything about it. Although maybe having kids will be more reliable form of "pension" any time soon. We gonna live in very interesting times.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 02:42 PM
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Yes, and I think men should be warned about it. It seems that they're either more reckless overall or that they aren't really aware about the risks. I still remember that story about a gay rapist from London, who raped more than 100 men. They all took an invitation from a total stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 02:25 PM
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u/LetsDelveIntoIt1, I wanted to answer to your question, but didn't have time at the moment, so I'll repost it here, if you don't mind Q4 all those in LTRs but have single friends who complain about dating issues: What differences do you see between yourself and your friends who're also in LTRs and those friends who're single complaining about dating? A lot of husband's friends are single and have lots of complains about dating. He says it's mostly due to their own choices. One always falls for …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 02:24 PM
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Oh, we wanted to get something like this, but we've eventually figured it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 02:14 PM
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I was talking specifically about murders committed by sexual/romantic partners. Men have higher rates overall, women have higher rates in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 02:01 PM
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You've chosen not to, so now you can't. Your mum is mommy for both of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:49 PM
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I don't think that very low statistical probability of something to happen means that you shouldn't be aware about it or be cautious. It makes sense to fasten your belt, it makes sense to avoid violent men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:47 PM
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It would be really interesting. We rarely get to hear both sides though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:45 PM
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I've answered.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:45 PM
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I doubt her stats, but her personal problem wasn't really in her working more overall, it was in the division of labor that didn't work for her but worked for her husband. He assumed that she'd better leave her job if she can't do the majority of chores and child care, but she wanted to prioritize her career over being a SAHM.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:44 PM
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I think our economic system isn't sustainable in a long run. We'll face the crisis sooner or later and I guess it better be economical and not environmental.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:43 PM
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I'm sure in my husband. He's better with kids than I am and he has higher cleaning standards, so we don't have much issues about dividing chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:42 PM
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I'm not saying that all standards are achievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:41 PM
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Men not reporting female violence and the system ignoring it is also the issue. I don't think that statistically they have the same rates of getting murdered by their partners though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:41 PM
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I doubt her stats, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:39 PM
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I think it'd do good for a lot of men. For now there's a surplus of male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:39 PM
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It seems you've read something that isn't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:38 PM
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She hoped it'll get better. It didn't. I'm not sure why they had the second kid though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:37 PM
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As I've said multiple times now, it's more about how society treats and teaches girls that their main value is their sexual appeal. It isn't really healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:37 PM
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I think it's pretty accurate. I don't think she meant literally everything, but that quite a big chunk of our life is seen mainly through male lenses. I also find her notion of a internal voyeur. A lot of women have him and it can be extremely hard to get rid of this guy inside of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:35 PM
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I don't think they posted pure numbers, as the stats were collected from legal cases. They analyzed more than 2000 cases. Pure numbers tend to differ greatly though. So for 2018 we have one stats with only 253 killed women, another report talks about 3173 women and there's also a report with 8300 women. And it's only murdered. It's even harder to get official stats about domestic violence, especially after the changes in family laws that decriminalized battery to some extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:33 PM
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Ugh. I guess we'll deal with it when/if we decide to have kids. We're on the fence. I can't tolerate loud noises very well, I have no idea how I'll manage it with a small kid around.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:25 PM
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You still leech off her, so you can't say that you provide for your dude. Your dude leeches off your mother as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:24 PM
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And leeching off your mother, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:38 AM
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It depends on the context, I guess. Again, it's a very unfortunate choice of wording. I can get why some women don't want to fulfil their partners' emotional needs. It can be exceptionally draining, if your partner has mental issues they refuse to acknowledge and treat. Your partner isn't your therapist, they don't have the qualification nor enough energy for it. Sooner or later they'll get burned out and then you'll have two people with mental issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:08 AM
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Because you popped out a bunch of kids and put them on your mother's shoulders as well. And because neither you or your partner can provide for themselves and the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:06 AM
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I was so glad it was over by the end and I could go back to work. I think a lot of parents who stay at home and take care of their toddlers share this sentiment. I'm really glad to hear a first-hand experience of a man who got his leave though, thanks for sharing :)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:05 AM
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Because they do find them worth enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:01 AM
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So you're the right, but men who disagree with you are led by society. That's convenient. The problem is that most people (both men and women) have the need for company, touch, emotional intimacy etc. You've said in the other comment that you hate intimacy and physical touch - that's no the norm, you're an outlier. And it's okay, you don't have to push yourself to do things you don't want to. You're wrong about the majority of men sharing your point of view though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:00 AM
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Emotional labor isn't really about emotional needs. It's a very unfortunate choice of term imv. Emotional labor is micromanaging the household and your relationship/marriage. Being the one who remembers, plans, organizes etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 04:55 AM
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If you have this attitude, it doesn't mean that the majority of men agrees with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 04:54 AM
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So because men don't owe women anymore, they should completely opt out from having relationships with them? You're telling on yourself here. You and men who share your views definitely should opt out. Avoid women at all costs, please. What you're missing here is that a lot of men do want to have romantic relationships. They see more value in them than just having a live-in maid that you don't have to pay and who can't leave you. There are emotional needs that get fulfilled in close intimate rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 04:31 AM
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We usually just stop the water running and call the master. It's easier and safer this way, as here if you fuck up with your pipes and flood your neighbors, you'll have to pay them for renovation. If you have a paper saying that the master did your pipes, you can negate the costs and they'll be paid by the home management company that sent the master. I guess the only gendered task is heavy lifting, but that's due to my health condition and not me being a woman, and it happens fairly rarely, as …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 04:24 AM
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Oh, I've missed the question. For me it would be "have you answered the previous question truthfully?"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 03:53 PM
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Instead you leech off your mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 02:51 PM
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And you both leech off your mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 02:41 PM
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When I was a teen and couldn't open that one jar, I just made a hole in the lid with a knife.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:03 AM
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I guess it depends greatly on the kid. How did you manage it with your first?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:37 AM
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Considering my cousins' experience, I'd guess that the period of half of year - year seems to be okay. I can't imagine myself breastfeeding though, I hate overstimulation in this area.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:39 AM
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Reposting this article, because I've found it for some other user. We’d moved to Cedar Rapids for my husband’s dream job in 2005, and the plan was always that, eventually, we’d move for me. But each year passed and we never did. Once we had kids, even though his job was flexible and his boss was accommodating, I realized it would never be my turn. So I began freelancing like a maniac: sending late-night pitches to editors, conducting interviews while my whining toddler chased me around the park,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:33 AM
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It's great that the risks are low, they aren't negligible though. I'm also not sure how the US stats compare to Russian.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:23 AM
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In Russia you can get up to 3 years of paid leave. Sure, they don't pay you as much as you could earn, it's around 40% of your salary if I remember correctly, but depending on your and your partner's income, it can be enough. We aren't wealthy in any way, but we plan to make savings beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:23 AM
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Have I claimed that extremist feminism is the real culture though? I'm not sure whether you've misread me or not. By culture there I've meant that part of it that is about sexualizing and objectifying of women. And it's ingrained in our culture, yes. Also it isn't necessarily a power fantasy. The author talks about male fantasies about women overall and I'd assume that not all of them are about power.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:19 AM
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In what way do you think we can reconcile it? You're free to have your sexual desires and express them in a legal way. So are women free to give you negative reaction towards it. Although it isn't just women, there are enough men who find other men's desires concerning and "icky" as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:09 AM
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I was just hoping some cute girl would want to smile at me and take her clothes of for me, because that would have been a really big deal in my life at that point. For a lot of people, especially for the ones who close to the age of this girl themselves or who have kids close to this age, it still sounds greatly off-putting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:48 AM
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Also here's the article I was looking for for you to see how a lack of support can look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:42 AM
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I'd guess that most women would be delightful to date men doing their fair share of domestic chores. It would nullify lots of relationship issues before they've even had the chance to appear. In Russia you can split your leaves. I guess splitting it in two, so both would spend around a year at home would be more practical than one partner taking a long break. I'm also not really fond of toddlers, so I view it as win-win.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:38 AM
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You could pursue her and get rejected. And other people could react negatively on it, because she was half of your age, wasn't she? You're free to act on your urges, others are free to react to theirs as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:15 AM
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I'm into egalitarianism, so I prefer to split responsibilities evenly. My husband and I usually divide chores according to our working hours in a way that leaves enough free time for both of us. So it isn't strictly 50/50, it fluctuates week to week. I'm not sure that I got you correctly, but I wouldn't want to have a househusband. I'd prefer my husband to take paternity leave for a year or two though, but not to be a forever SAHF. The ways partners can support each other: Ask how they feel, be …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:59 AM
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Have no idea about Canadian woman in 2010s tbh, I didn't speak English back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:44 AM
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Not sure about the US, but in Russia there's stats showing that a half of killed women were murdered by their partners. These men are a minority, sure, but it happens more often than one would think. Also it isn't just about violent men or men who have issues with the law or addicts. Someone who you'd expect to be violent with their partners. No. There are men who hide their tendencies (as well as women) and keep the face of good family men. Later on you read about them in some newspaper and how…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:43 AM
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Don't women have higher rates of victimization by their sexual/romantic partners? It isn't just about a violent man attacking you from bushes, it's about domestic violence as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:29 AM
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Because one story beats whole culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:24 AM
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Again, I think it's more about how society treats women through male perspective. It would be nice if girls weren't taught that their appearance is the most important thing they have or that they're responsible for men having sexual fantasies about them. Also that our value, our whole existence should rotate around men or a man. We can see these changes nowadays, there's more representation of women as not male partners, mothers or sisters. There's body positivity. There's very strong feminism m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:22 AM
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It seems men don't do well when they're hold to visual standards themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 04:58 AM
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I think this quote is more about the level of objectifying and sexualizing that women and girls experience. It's so deep, broad and ubiquitous that we grow with this male lens in our heads that can be very hard to get rid off. It's the consequences not of just male fantasies, but also of society massively catering to them. I'd guess men might experience something similar, but I doubt that they do it to the same degree. Otherwise, they wouldn't struggle so much with learning and accepting what wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 04:54 AM
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Male fantasies, male fantasies, is everything run by male fantasies? Up on a pedestal or down on your knees, it's all a male fantasy: that you're strong enough to take what they dish out, or else too weak to do anything about it. Even pretending you aren't catering to male fantasies is a male fantasy: pretending you're unseen, pretending you have a life of your own, that you can wash your feet and comb your hair unconscious of the ever-present watcher peering through the keyhole, peering through…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 03:52 AM
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I'm talking about Japan and South Korea because their birth rates are already much lower than what we see in the US or Russia. And they don't seem to do anything drastic about it, so we probably can expect similar course of actions where we live. China is a different story though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:07 PM
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By doing fine I mean that they aren't facing immediate collapse right now. They do have a bunch of problems and even bigger problems lie ahead of them. I'm really curious how we all gonna deal with the population crises. I doubt it'll turn into force breeding, but the old will be fucked up. Maybe these old will be us.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:00 PM
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Look at Japan or South Korea, as they have far higher singleness rates. They're doing fine, but they're facing consequences of low birth rates. We all will eventually, I'm not sure that it's tied to men's rising singleness rate though, as even most married couples choose to have 1-2 kids and there's the rise of childfree men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:31 PM
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I think the key feature of sex/romantic bots will be the illusion of companionship and love. Not just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:37 PM
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Exclusivity makes sense even without kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 12:46 PM
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I have a feeling that you want to troll her by deleting your comment when she does give you an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 10:07 AM
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She's gorgeous and I find this song strangely sweet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:36 AM
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No, the OP talks about another aspect of it: I've mentioned this exact story before where I mentioned - or it was clear from context - that I'm not a woman, and never received the kind of criticism/pushback I got this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:02 AM
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I get what you're talking about, but I also get that people have very few incentives to stay with a person who doesn't treat their mental issues and instead develops unhealthy coping mechanisms including lashing out on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:56 AM
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For now this tech doesn't even exist and it's just fantasies. It would be rather nice for sexless men to get sex bots though, but it seems that for you it's more about revenge fantasies. How old are you? Chances are high that you just won't live long enough to see any of these. It might be a surprise for you, but hitting people is illegal. Whatever their gender is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:24 AM
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The key point is "if you're wealthy". Most men aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:16 AM
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I know some of the stories similar to what you've described here. I don't get offended, but I feel sorry for these men. There are jerks and assholes among both genders. What's curious about the OP's story is that it was a very new relationship, there's no indication that she caused his issues, but men still attacked her for not sticking to the dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:14 AM
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Sure, but his side doesn't seem to hold up. He still rejects the idea that he has an addiction, although he already gambled everything he'd had and now he's deep in debt. I'm curious when we hear that he got his arms or legs broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:12 AM
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If you don't want to deal with women, it doesn't mean that the majority of men agrees with you. And, well, even nowadays men can get sex and kids without "having to deal with women". Sex workers and surrogate mothers exist, but you have to be very wealthy. I don't think that highly developed sex bots or artificial wombs will be any cheaper though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:06 AM
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If sex bots could change real human beings, I'd imagine there'd a market for ideal husbands as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:04 AM
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We can't wait for them to appear on the market. Although I guess at first they'll be even more expensive than the services of surrogate mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:02 AM
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I find it really interesting how many men got offended over your story and assumed that you were the cause of you ex issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:00 AM
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I think it's the result of religious beliefs, monogamous marriage, the feat of paternity fraud and losing your partner and resources with them. Plus, STDs. Nowadays the risks of STDs and unwanted pregnancy are far lower and neglectable for some people, but these changes are still rather recent. Social norms take lots of time to change, especially if we're talking about something so deeply rooted in our culture. Having said that, I see nothing wrong in expecting exclusivity and vetting for partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:46 PM
1

Well, you should at least send her an email saying that she's an ex now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:35 PM
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Sure, there are lots of them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:33 PM
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Ah, I see. Men are hornier. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:33 PM
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I'm married and I want other women to do what they want. They should marry if they want, but they should vet their partner really well and not rush into marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:32 PM
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The Orthodox. There are far fewer Buddhists. Also Buddhism considers abortion as a negative act worsening one's karma, but doesn't prohibits it, although it depends on the branch.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:31 PM
1

So you've changed your mind about making it easier for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:26 PM
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People have created all these tests for a reason. It makes sense to avoid bringing into this world a person that will suffer here more than it's already necessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:21 PM
1

Sorry, still don't follow. Doesn't it prove your initial point wrong? Both siblings don't seem to have any issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:19 PM
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Write her an email then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:18 PM
1

...and your point is?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:17 PM
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No, you aren't really answering my questions. It's okay to talk about personal experience btw, it isn't against rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:16 PM
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I might be wrong, but I think there are more tradcon content creators that women can follow, as they eagerly follow both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:13 PM
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If you have a suspicion that you're toxic, chances are high that you really are. Get help, improve yourself, do better next time. You don't owe her closure or any justification, it would be nice of you to talk to her in person or on phone trying to end things amicably. Or at least send her an email. Let her know that she's an ex now at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:11 PM
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Because she cates to tradcon men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:08 PM
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A Russian blogger posted her story about going through IVF and learning that the fetus had Down syndrome. She terminated, as she didn't want to give birth to a kid that most likely would have life-long issues. To no one's surprise she got a massive backslash from religious people. What was a bit surprising is that one publicly known mother of a kid with the syndrome got deeply offended and took it as propaganda of getting rid of special kids. Considering that the woman already has 2 kids and tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:08 PM
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No, you told me about manosphere. But what offline spaces? Who stops you from seeing your friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 04:39 PM
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One of my friends divorced her husband, because he developed gambling addiction, refused to acknowledge and work on it while their kid got sick and required somewhat pricey treatment and lots of attention. She said she couldn't pull both and she prioritized the kid, not the man. The dude got significantly worse. He lost the access to her income and got into deeper debt. He couldn't keep his work due to worsening of his condition. In the process of trying to separate from him, she had to tell his…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 04:34 PM
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No, how women stop you from spending time with your friends? How do they stop you from getting together and doing what you like?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 04:14 PM
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Nope. I'm married and I wouldn't give this advice to anyone, it's terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 03:20 PM
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I think it's bad in the long run. Human beings need company and we tend to make more kids paired up. It seems that the bar for getting and staying in relationships got higher as we've lost the need for marriage, but a lot of people haven't developed the skills/traits needed for healthy LTRs. Both men and women, but women are more comfortable with staying single. So as a result a lot of people are single whether they choose to be or not and probably not many of them work on their lack of what's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 03:19 PM
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Or to drink with people who you trust. I get drunk from a few glasses of wine, so I never drink with people I don't well and generally don't drink anywhere besides my own home.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 03:11 PM
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Once again, there's a difference between hanging out with your friends and doing something and having institutionalized male-only spaces. How do women stop you from getting together with your friends and do what you like?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 03:09 PM
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There are far more tradcons than you think, I was rather surprised myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 01:35 PM
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Being single doesn't equate to being alone. Also a lot of women choose to be single and it seems that there are enough men pissed about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 12:48 PM
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My point is that not having institutionalized male-only spaces doesn't stop men from hanging out with each other whether women really interfere with having these institutionalized spaces or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:07 AM
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You can hang out with your friends and do some activity. I'm not sure what the issue is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 08:41 AM
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I was talking more about hanging out with your friends. Neither men or women really need men-free/women-free places for doing it, you can hang out at your place, at a café, go on picnic etc. Male/female-only institutions is another topic though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 08:33 AM
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Can't watch a video right now, can you sum up what she's talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 08:07 AM
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In what ways? Last time I checked men hanging out with their friends isn't illegal or prohibited.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:30 AM
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The problem of online communities that although they have the potential to become places where a person can find people with similar issues and experience, share their stories, get support and help needed, they often just devolve into echo chambers full of crabs. I'm also not sure that venting online really helps. Two studies were conducted to explore how people experience and express their anger on a particular type of Web site, known as a rant-site. Study 1 surveyed rant-site visitors to bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:48 AM
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Not the user you were asking, but yes, women I know and who are single also have reasons for it. What is different is that a lot of women choose to stay single, especially the ones who have kids. Not just because it's hard to date as a single mother, but because it isn't really safe to bring a new man into home with kids and they often get used to their family structure as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:14 AM
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It depends on the individual. Some are more okay with giving and some with passively receiving.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 07:54 PM
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No, because PIV puts you into a far more vulnerable position. I guess it can also make one feel used, as if their partner just used them as a sex doll. Giving head or handjob is a more active position and gives you more control. Also doesn't require this level of vulnerability. Plus, having sex when you aren't aroused can be painful.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 07:27 PM
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Last time it took a bit less than a year to find a person who I developed emotional connection and mutual romantic interest. I'm close to demisexuality, so it can be a quest, as I don't consider almost all people as possible romantic partners, I just feel zero attraction to them whatsoever. And if it wasn't enough, I have extremely narrow preferences, especially for a person living in a somewhat traditional society. So looking for a partner who would have similar values and plans on the future a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 07:22 PM
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Some people don't like being passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 07:14 PM
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If sex is about lying on your back, I'm kind of sorry for your partners. For a lot of people it's a far more intimate and involved process.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 07:05 PM
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For you. Not for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 06:13 PM
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Well, it might not work this way for you, but it does so for some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 06:08 PM
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I think it's common among virgins. Also you can give a head if you aren't exactly in the mood for sex, but still want to do some fun for your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 06:00 PM
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Well, at least she's aware that you don't want to date her. How old are you? You might be giving wrong vibes or you might be not seen as an LTR material yourself. It can happen to men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 05:45 PM
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A Catholic church in Poland has asked a court to determine whether a Polish man who was sexually abused as a child by a priest is gay and whether the sexual contact may have been pleasurable for him. The man, Janusz Szymik, who is now 48, was an altar boy when the abuse began in the 1980s. Szymik sued the diocese of Bielsko-Zywiec, in southern Poland, in a civil court last year. The priest, who has been identified only as Rev. Jan W., admitted to the abuse. Szymik is now seeking 3 million zlotys…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 05:30 PM
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I hope she does know that you don't view her as LTR material and that she doesn't fit your preferences. Considering your theory, chances are high that she might have an insecure style of attachment and you not having any plans to date her up just does the trick for her issues that make her attracted to you. Or she's genuinely into you as a person, although you seem to be a jerk. If you want to have a long-lasting and stable relationship, I wouldn't advise you to fish for partners with an insecur…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 05:17 PM
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It's very hard to give any advice for a person in a vacuum. Each case is different and I doubt that there's any universal detailed advice that would work for everyone besides "learn to be okay on your own and try to find content and happiness in things besides dating". Also "spend your time on developing deep and meaningful relationships with people outside of romantic context". Personally I don't really know a man who has issues with dating for no particular reason. They might look perfectly ok…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 05:11 PM
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Well, agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 05:07 PM
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They don't have to be the majority of the overweight for others to accept that there are various reasons for weight issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 05:03 PM
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You overgeneralize. You might never know what is the reason for a person to overeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 04:57 PM
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Nothing really. I don't think that some kisses into cheeks that I was getting as a preschooler from boys (and some girls) can be counted as n-counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 04:54 PM
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I don't think that all overweight people were abused, but I think studies showing that there's correlation between abuse/sexual assaults are enough of a reason against fat-shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 04:47 PM
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There are studies suggesting the link between obesity and child abuse and sexual abuse. Do you want to discuss it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:02 PM
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I think food addictions/eating disorders can have very different causes as well as PTSD or trust issues. It doesn't make much sense to overgeneralize them. A person with PTSD can get bad eating habits as a way of coping with their problem, it can be a result of child abuse etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:55 PM
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Well, you got my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:46 PM
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The funny thing is that I don't have mental issues nor I've ever been overweight. I know lots of people who struggle with mental health and it isn't their fault. It's their responsibility to work on them though. For example a rape survivor isn't at fault for their PTDS, but no one besides them can make them treat it. A person who got out of abusive relationship isn't at fault for having trust issues, but they're responsible for working on the issue etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:45 PM
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I think by saying that men are more visual people mean that it's often enough for a man to just look at woman to get horny. It isn't that common among women. Women care more about visual aesthetics though, I doubt that anyone would argue about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:40 PM
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I think there's a major difference between fault and responsibility and merging them together isn't a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:36 PM
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A person isn't at fault for their mental issues. It's their responsibility to treat them, but it isn't their fault that they have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:08 PM
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I'm not sure that they can be called failures, but maybe it's the language difference. In Russian it usually assumes that you're at fault for failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:03 PM
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It can be a various of things, but shaming usually doesn't work well. Depending on one's situation it can be the result of mental issues, bad coping mechanisms, bad learned food patterns etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 01:54 PM
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There's a difference between thinking that overeating isn't okay and considering it a mental failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 01:43 PM
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Were you mean first and then fat or vice versa?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 01:10 PM
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Yep, I've seen lots of people similar to you. They lost weight and got rather mean towards other fat people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 01:08 PM
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Thanks! It could be better if I spent more time checking my grammar and spelling. And I did it when I'd just started using reddit, but got lazy after some time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 01:05 PM
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I find it rather perplexing how a lot of fat-shaming people are fat. Can it be a variant of internalized hate?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 01:01 PM
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I'd guess a good nutritionist and a fitness trainer would be a better option.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 01:00 PM
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It would be wholesome, if you weren't a pickme.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:01 PM
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No, I'm just teasing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 11:12 AM
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Nah, if you're like this, it doesn't mean that the majority of women are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 10:32 AM
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It's the problem of online communities. From one hand, they're great for finding people with similar values/experience/issues and creating safe spaces, getting support etc. From the other, they often end up being echo-chambers full of crabs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 10:28 AM
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I think women who date jerks usually get pitied and looked down at, not approved or validated. But I guess it can depend on one's social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 10:19 AM
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Unfortunately, no. Oh, fuck, I haven't asked about riding a horse. I'd guess it's a no in terms of the possibility of falling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 10:17 AM
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Thanks for a compliment btw :) Yeah, he had this attitude close to "don't be an idiot, take care of your eyesight".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 10:17 AM
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It's the same issue that MGTOW community has. Lots of them (if not the majority of the ones present online) concentrate more on women and how they hate them because they're bitter and angry for various reasons than on their own well-being.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 10:15 AM
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One would think so, but it seems that any issues with eyes put a major no on heavy lifting and combative sports. When I was at the doctor's office, there was another one treating a man and explaining him pretty much the same prohibitions. Man: So...like I should avoid these things for some time or forever? Box? Judo? Doctor: Do you do any of this? Man: No, but what if I want to start? Doctor: What for? You have only two eyes and one head and they aren't given you for getting kicked and hit. I ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 10:09 AM
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Ohh, I didn't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 10:06 AM
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For a lot of people there's more value in relationship besides their partner's appearance, money or sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 10:05 AM
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Are you talking about gimpgirl? I'm not sure who else would PM nudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 10:03 AM
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It can, but I feel that a lot of them feel that it's a lose for a woman still.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 10:01 AM
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I did some minor eyesight precaution procedure and the condition that caused the need for it means that I should avoid heavy lifting/getting hit so it wouldn't relapse. It isn't that restricting, but it's something to be careful about from now on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 10:01 AM
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No, there are men who think the same. They can't wrap their heads around the fact that marriage isn't the end goal of all women or that women might pursue sex and intimacy without wanting/expecting commitment "in return".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 09:24 AM
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So I was told that I should avoid lifting things >10kg, do sports with a lot of jumping in it, do any combative sports or heavy lifting which makes sense because of the first point. It isn't big of a loss for me, but it's a bit weird that now I can't lift the bag of my cat's litter which comes in bags of 15 kg. And these are life-long restrictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 09:23 AM
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They can't accept that other people can enjoy relationship format they think low or feel some kind of disgust/contentment towards. Also thinking that FWB is a win for a guy and lose for a girl is very common.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 09:16 AM
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If you can cook, but prefer to order a take out, it doesn't negate your cooking skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 04:43 AM
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I'll try better next time :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:26 AM
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Link to the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:16 AM
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It seems OP is talking about this sub in particular and here we discuss preferences in details. It makes sense to state them clearly whether it makes you arrogant or not. Also it would be good for everyone if more men shared this point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:16 AM
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Being capable doesn't mean that you shouldn't just pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:07 AM
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So I don't think that it explains high divorce rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:07 AM
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Thanks a lot for taking your time to explain where I was wrong and analyze the data, I really appreciate it! :) So neither mine or the original commenter claims have much ground underneath.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:04 AM
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Yeah, that's a bad phrasing on my part, I should have done it better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:02 AM
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Ah, got it. Yes, I agree, it's a wrong assumption. I'll return to it tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 05:01 PM
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Percent-wise, not in pure numbers. Because red states lead in the list. It doesn't necessarily mean that more conservatives than liberals have kids out of wedlock, as I have no idea what is the population of each state in particular.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 04:26 PM
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Why can't people call services?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 04:09 PM
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I was pointing out that top states with the highest percent of single motherhood are almost all conservative ones. It can mean correlation, but I'd have to do more research on it to claim it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 04:07 PM
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Well, I guess lots of them are desperate. They still want to sound edgy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 03:49 PM
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I was arguing with your attempt to disprove it. Even if we look at 2020 list of red and blue states, still conservative states lead in percent of single mothers. Whether these mothers themselves are liberal or conservative is another question though that I don't really want to explore right now, considering that it requires far more time than I'm willing to spend. Cherry picking means ignoring a significant portion of data that contradict your point of view. If you have issues with it, you shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 03:48 PM
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I've never claimed that it does. It was a cheeky answer to a cheeky comment. It wasn't supposed to be holistic in the first place, I'm not spending my time on calculating stats in the other country. All three times you're talking about I was posting something in the megathread, no under a post discussing something in full seriousness. It's a place to chat and I bring in information I find interesting to discuss. Cherry picking, from the other hand, is done by both parties. Whether it's TRP, blac…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 03:37 PM
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I don't really think that most women talk about the latter when they're talking about rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 03:33 PM
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It's true for some, but others just find it entertaining and try to be edgy on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 03:32 PM
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the guy they were hooking up with kept fucking them when she didn't want to anymore I think it's an assault as well. You can revoke your consent at any moment and your partner has to stop, as if they don't, it turns into rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 03:11 PM
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Some are meaner than they are in real life. Anonymity can bring up the worst in people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 03:10 PM
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You can't really against the statistics showing that conservative states have higher rates of single mothers. Whether we look at divorced or never married mothers. My point was that even back then people abused drugs and women were prescribed more mood-correcting pills than men. The trend is still there, accompanied by different pills. I'm disagreeing with your conclusion about my lack of perspective. I can understand her view, I still find it nuts. What's the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 03:09 PM
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Importantly, results show that although women are better at recognizing emotions and express themselves more easily, men show greater responses to threatening cues (dominant, violent or aggressive) and this may reflect different behavioral response tendencies between men and women as well as evolutionary effects. https://pure.uva.nl/ws/files/1808658/120946_Kret_de_Gelder_sexdiffs_neuropsychologia_2012.pdf Results showed that there was no significant difference between the genders on their total …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 03:04 PM
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Some people get triggered when they see dating standards they don't fit in. Both men and women. I guess because there are far more men in this subreddit, we usually see more men getting triggered. Don't pay much attention to it, they're just troubled.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 02:44 PM
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We have 50/50 division of community property, that's still enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 02:42 PM
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Thanks for a compliment :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 02:39 PM
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Provide yours with a list or a named map. I'm not that good at states to know each. Here's another site with data based on the 2020 election if you're curious. The lists doesn't change much if at all. Red stated still lead in the ratio of single mothers. Considering meth - that was a joke. Considering abortions - I don't agree with you on this topic, that's all. And considering conservative states and single mothers, it seems that you just don't like when people post stats that contradict your w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 02:38 PM
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I've answered to your previous comment. Also your graph is outdated.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 01:41 PM
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Oh, I see, I used 2018 data. So if we look at 2022 lists, we'll get a bit different picture. Also there's stats aboutchildren born out of wedlock per states. Top ten in 2019 were Mississippi (with 54.9%), Louisiana (54%), New Mexico(51.5%), Alabama(48.3%), Nevada(48.1%), Delaware(47.1%), Arkansas(46.8%), West Virginia(46.7%), South Carolina(46.7%), Florida (46.6%). So out of top ten conservative states are Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, Arkansas, West Virginia, South Carolina and, surprisingly…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 01:41 PM
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Also there's stats aboutchildren born out of wedlock per states. Top ten in 2019 were Mississippi (with 54.9%), Louisiana (54%), New Mexico(51.5%), Alabama(48.3%), Nevada(48.1%), Delaware(47.1%), Arkansas(46.8%), West Virginia(46.7%), South Carolina(46.7%), Florida (46.6%). First two are conservative, NM is conservative-leaning, Alabama is conservative, Nevada is "about average", Delaware is "less conservative than average", Arkansas is conservative, WV and SC is are conservative and Florida "ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 01:33 PM
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That's why I attached this site.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 01:22 PM
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Does it matter whether these women are divorced or have never been married? Conservative state still have more people on welfare. Also New Mexico seems to be leaning conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 01:07 PM
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So your example isn't valid. She's clearly wealthier than most people here. Again, you know nothing about how most people here live. I plan to provide for my mother later on. So I could repay her everything she's given me. Not the other way around. You don't. Your relatives aren't good representatives. A lot of young people move to Moscow/St. Petersburg, because they can make more money there. But, of course, it depends greatly on one's education and field. Some guys don't. Some do. No, not all …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 01:06 PM
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Yes, because the average salary outside of Moscow is around 20-30k rubles with some exceptions. How much does your relative get? No, thanks, it's a terrible advice. I prefer to have my own money and not beg for it. They're expensive and they have higher salaries, that makes sense, doesn't it? We're planning to move this year, I'll write how things are. There are enough men who still want to have monogamous relationships. In fact, most men aren't into the idea of their wife having sex with others…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 12:17 PM
5

I don't think it's the reason against, it's just something to be aware of.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 12:01 PM
4

Sure, I haven't seen any stats that can support either of the claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 12:01 PM
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It isn't, because most people's parents aren't that wealthy to start with. They just can't afford providing for a bunch of adults and their kids. You're never gonna be financially independent in a major city. Why? I'm changing the field, I'll have far better salary in a bigger city when we move. Monogamy is in. I have it already. As well as financial independency in some way, I'd just prefer to have far higher income.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 11:49 AM
10

Have no idea, but Russia has higher divorce rates than the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 11:45 AM
3

Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 10:47 AM
10

It depends. If he plans to bring her to the US, chances that they'll divorce are rather high. Most men aren't ready to immigrate for dating nor they really can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 10:40 AM
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Your whole worldview is based on your kinks and the fact that your mother is willing to provide for you and your whole family. What you preach isn't realistic nor desirable for most people. Personally I prefer to listen to people with who have achieved things I strive for. Good education, financial independency, monogamous partnership etc. Your lifestyle isn't what I want to do myself, it's something I view as a nightmare.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 10:36 AM
5

In general, when you have to choose who to listen, listen to men who care about you (more than about male imperative). But I'd advise to listen to both men and women who do know and care about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 10:12 AM
7

No person should ever take advice from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 10:09 AM
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It's usually what people assume in this context. Men go to poorer countries, so they could compensate their lack of appearance/social skills with their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 10:02 AM
1

It depends greatly on the age group we're talking about. There was a study in one of Russian regions about BMI, gender and age. Among 20-29 age group 51.9% men and 64.2% women have normal BMI. In the same age range 31% of men are overweight and 11.5% are obese, while only 14.3% women are overweight and 6.2% are obese. There are more women who are underweight (15.3%) than overweight or obese women and men. It gets worse in older age groups though, but women catch up with men only around 50s with …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 10:01 AM
1

It's interesting to know, I've had no idea about it. Do you think it's similar in some other European countries? In Russia women clothes is more expensive and is often made worse than men's. I've seen studies showing that it's somewhat true for the US as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 07:44 AM
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It seems that there are more single mothers in more conservative states. Also these states have more people on food stamps.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 07:41 AM
2

Where? Because the one mentioning of a doctor is here "She easily could be making more than a doctor from gaping her asshole on onlyfans but instead she chooses to carry drinks..."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 07:33 AM
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Thanks! I think it's the difference of learning language as an adult using mostly written sources. If you learn language "naturally", you might have more struggles with correct spelling/grammar, as you've learnt it from oral speech and you don't give much thought to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 06:01 AM
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I think it's this: The wage gap between men and women did not shrink between 2014 and 2016 but young women do now earn more than young men in the early stages of their career, according to new calculations by national statistics office CBS. https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2018/11/pay-gap-stops-shrinking-but-young-women-earn-more-than-men/#:\~:text=The%20wage%20gap%20between%20men,by%20national%20statistics%20office%20CBS.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 05:58 AM
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Here's a chart. Here's a bunch of stats. It's interesting to see that single men and women have very similar spending levels. Women spend more on groceries, clothes (and women's clothes is pricier than men's), pets and healthcare, toys and accessories. Men spend more on vehicles, lunches, "audio and visual equipment and services".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 05:41 AM
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Not only groceries, but also pretty much everything for kids and that can cost a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 05:28 AM
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Easily :) My first degree is languages. My English isn't that good though, I often notice mistakes when I reread my comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 05:12 AM
1

Goodbye Earl
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 04:44 AM
2

When I used to study offline and the campus was in a shitty neighborhood, we used to share. I think we'll share again if one of us has to travel alone. Not because we're jealous, but because we're both high in neuroticism and it feels safer this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 04:36 AM
9

So he has to compensate for his weight. It means that women aren't into overweight dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 04:28 AM
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It can work in some cases, but it has its own downsides and possible side-effects a lot of men romanticizing foreign women seem not to be aware about. First of all, as a foreigner in another country you get heavily targeted by women seeking visa/wealthy partner. Your chances to end up with a gold digger get higher and due to cultural differences and language barrier it might be harder for you to see that your partner just pretends to like you. Secondly, as I've already mentioned - culture differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 04:24 AM
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I have a rather specific appearance I guess. Petite, fair-colored and Asian looking, don't look my age and don't really put much efforts into my appearance. I wear comfortable clothes, don't put any makeup, don't do fancy hairstyles etc. So this combination is either hit or miss and I get that I don't really fit in most modern beauty standards. Plus, not looking your age can be beneficial when you're in your late 20s and older, but it also caused me having no attention from my peers till 16 and …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 03:28 AM
2

Hubby said the same. I guess it's the question of one's preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 05:32 PM
1

Dude, there are a lot feminists in Eastern Europe too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 05:32 PM
2

I couldn't find a photo without makeup in her profile, they were all videos, so I just googled it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 05:20 PM
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I think she's above average even without makeup. She has good facial features, nice hair, pretty smile.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 05:13 PM
2

It makes sense. I can't eat some sweets I used to love, because now they taste as pure sugar for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 05:05 PM
2

Not too sweet sparkling wine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:32 PM
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Sure, there are women who date much older men, they're the minority though and I'd guess that a lot of them date older guys for financial reasons. Consistent with previous findings, women preferred partners of their own age, regardless of their own age and regardless of the level of relationship involvement. And another one: "Over the investigated age span, women reported a narrower age range than men and women tended to prefer slightly older men. We also show that men's age range widens as they…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:28 PM
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Not all of us are 30+ women here. I'm 25 :) Edit: also aren't fresh and fit were exposed for making women sleep with them for participating in their show? I think this alone filters for a very narrow sample.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:09 PM
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Statistically women prefer to date close to their age, no younger/older than 5 years. Also most marriages are between people with very little if any age gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:08 PM
1

I wouldn't call it success.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:04 PM
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I'd guess it depends greatly on one's social circle. How old are you and where do you live? I'm in my middle 20s, there are lots of happily married people and people in LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:00 PM
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Moving away can be hard, especially if you've lived all your life in one place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:57 PM
2

Oh, we're almost of the same age :) I can relate to issue with getting shit together. It can take more time than you hoped it would. Have you thought about moving to a bigger city? I think if I had stayed where I used to live, I would have been single still.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:12 PM
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I don't use this phrase. I don't think that good men have gone somewhere, I think there always were not that many of them to start with, but women used to settle with other men nonetheless for various reasons. There are several reasons why this phrase is used: People tend to romanticize the past. It seems that quite a lot of people are nostalgic over times that we've never really had. It heavily depends on one's social circle. For example, if I stayed in my village, my dating pool would consist …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:10 PM
2

As a person living in the region where it can get lower than -30C, I can say that you're wrong. Keep your smart head warm. It loses lots of heat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:43 PM
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It seems that obesity is very common in the US. And, well, mature guy in his 20s sounds almost like an oxymoron, but there are some. Do you live in a small town?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:41 PM
2

It seems they push the idea "better be single than with a LVM" and it can make sense depending on one's definition of LVM.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:26 PM
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Seems pretty reasonable. How successful have you been so far? I'd guess that people with such beliefs tend to date inside their churches/communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:05 PM
2

Well, agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 02:04 PM
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If she doesn't agree with you, it doesn't mean she can't be feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 01:58 PM
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Considering that she's religious, I'd guess that sharing her religion. Also being okay with waiting till marriage, being mature, taking responsibility for yourself and your actions etc. u/LillthOfBabylon, what are your standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 01:44 PM
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Arguing with you here doesn't mean that we have awful personalities. Some can be mean, sure, but I'd say there're a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 01:42 PM
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She's pretty much the traditional feminine woman some of the guys here seem to dream of. The issue is that girls like this have their own standards that most of these men don't pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 01:36 PM
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Well, guys have to choose between pursuing some foreign GFs/wives and opting out. Also the more of you do it, the higher competition will become.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 01:34 PM
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It seems there are more women who are happily married or are in relationships than men. At least some of them seem to be rather nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 01:32 PM
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Well, compatible and decent. Although two assholes can live happily together, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 01:32 PM
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No. He brings up that by getting on OF she could make more than a doctor. Not that she could be one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 01:14 PM
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I guess you wanted to say "you're getting some not because you're somehow special". Also successful LTR does require a decent personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 11:50 AM
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One has to have money for travelling. If men really start opting out and stop pursuing high-paying jobs, foreign GFs/wives won't really be an options for them. And if the majority of Western guys starts marrying abroad, there soon will be a lack of young marriageable women in the other countries. Western men will have to compete with local men and with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 11:22 AM
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You're clearly reading something that isn't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 10:30 AM
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Not really. He isn't surprised that she's not a model or influencer, someone who uses their appearance for profit. He's amused that she isn't a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 09:17 AM
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Almost a quarter of U.S. children under the age of 18 live with one parent and no other adults (23%) It doesn't look like the US is "a single mom country". Sure, single parent households have become far more common nowadays, but they aren't the majority. It also seems that you assume that it used to be better before. Why? There are lots of older women who can tell you a bunch of terrible stories as well. The fact that more of them are/were married doesn't mean that they are/were satisfied with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 09:13 AM
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Have you read the post? The dude doesn't understand why she just doesn't do some sex work and get "more than a doctor".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 07:14 AM
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Eunuchs were strictly forbidden to marry in the early Ming Dynasty. But starting in 1402, Yongle violated his father’s rules to repay eunuchs for their significant contributions in Jingnan Campaign. From then on, the marriage of eunuchs had legitimacy because it had the tacit approval of the emperor. Yongle Emperor even awarded wedding to eunuchs who made significant contributions. After the loosening of policy, the phenomenon of eunuchs’ marriage didn’t disappear until the collapse of the Qing …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 07:13 AM
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I don't think that a lot of men share his ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:58 AM
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If women who are involved into sex work are the most visible for him, he probably has some issues with porn consuming.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:29 AM
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So women are bad for profiting from thirsty men, but they also aren't supposed to work, because they can profit from thirsty men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:14 AM
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I don't think that your example with eunuchs proves that all men want to have a wife or an LTR partner. I'd guess eunuchs were supposed to be married, it was a social norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:04 AM
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so what's your excuse ? Excuse for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 05:38 AM
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I really doubt I'd notice it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:09 PM
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There's no such thing as subconscious eugenics. And if you want to talk about risks and cruelty, I'd suggest you start with some heritable conditions people are aware about, but still choose to have kids. Being short or average height isn't an illness though, so it's okay that people don't filter it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:46 PM
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It heavily depends on your culture and social circle. In some European countries going Dutch is more common, although it's still expected that men pay for dates. It doesn't mean that men always pay though. I'm from Russia, traditional gender roles are still rather popular here, but I prefer to pay for myself and I know a few other women who do. When my husband and I started dating, we paid in turns, there were no issues with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:45 PM
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Because most people don't subscribe to eugenics.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:39 PM
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Okay, I've made a relatively big university project in 3 days, when I was supposed to make it in a few weeks, but fucked up with deadlines. I feel both proud and stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 02:41 PM
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And sex can't really be a part of this duty. The unfortunate thing is that these people won't believe you. They concentrate on sex so much, because it's an easily-tangible solution and they can ignore all other ways to help themselves if they're convinced that only sex can fix them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:57 AM
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So all men are pedophiles, gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:51 AM
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It would be interesting to dig this topic, as I'm not sure you're right. After having a few arguments with them, it seems that at least some do believe that fetuses and born people are equally important. I think that there are cases when killing is justified, including abortions. Because I value one's bodily autonomy over fetuses' rights. Although they don't have any in most countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:50 AM
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It isn't a new thing, there are lots of vaccines that need boosters. I'm not sure that any needs to be boosted so often though. Tetanus shot should be got every 10 years for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:46 AM
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It still can kill you in some cases and food allergies often are mild and don't always cause throat swelling. And they can be inside you :) What I find worse than food allergies is pollen allergy. Or cat/dog allergy. Anything that you inhale. You feel shitty just due to your immune system going crazy. Compared to pollen, it's easy enough to avoid food allergens.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:44 AM
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Can I user one example of a male child molester to say that all men are pedophiles and rapists? Because that's what you're doing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:41 AM
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From the moral point of view, anti-choirces consider fetuses as important as already born people, don't they? Over all the side-effects of pregnancy and giving birth. Those aren't just inconvenience, those harm her health. So a life of a fetus over her daughter's health. Also education, financial perspectives and chances to start her own full family at some point later.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:40 AM
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I think there are a few reasons for it: Some women really can't have a discussion without crossing the lines Some men consider that any woman disagreeing with them is a bitch by default. Men often take it worse being corrected/disagreed with by women than by other men. If as a woman you use the same words and intonation as your male friend, you can be viewed as if you were a bitch although this male friend is viewed as a reasonable person. As a woman you often have to use far more "I think/I bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:37 AM
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No, I understand her reasoning, I still don't agree with it and think that she's nuts. Just like I can understand why some parents choose not to vaccinate their kids and I still consider them idiots. I get that from her point of you, fetus is as important as her daughter. I can't relate to it though, as if I had a daughter, I'd prioritize her over a fetus for various reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:34 AM
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I'd assume that her changing actually does benefit for these Asian guys she's dated and the one she's dating now. Because relationships are beneficial for both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:31 AM
1

So agree to agree then :)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:29 AM
5

I've seen most of this advice in Reddit as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:29 AM
1

Acute appendicitis seems to be the result of a primary obstruction of the appendix. ... The causative agents include bezoars, foreign bodies, trauma, intestinal worms, lymphadenitis and, most commonly, calcified fecal deposits that are known as appendicoliths or fecaliths. No, you didn't get me. You can get a random hole in your lung at any moment. I don't think that having lower chances with introducing food early means that you necessarily had any chances to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:28 AM
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I understand it, I still think she's total nuts. There's a difference between a living human that hasn't been born yet and a born human being. And, well, if I had a kid, I'd imagine I'd love them more than someone I haven't ever met.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:22 AM
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I'm interested in discussing what kind of advice women usually get Also if you haven't noticed, I don't think that most advice I've listed are really helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:21 AM
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Agree to disagree I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:20 AM
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I've heard it a few times in real life, but the guys were total douchebags, so it wasn't surprising in any way. But I was talking mostly about this sub in particular, I've had a few discussions about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:20 AM
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If the story about Asian men struggling with dating is true, I highly doubt that women like this will have any issues with finding a few interested in dating them. But I agree that people shouldn't be pissed if others don't want to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:18 AM
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It reads as fake, but I know a few stories from real life about parents going no contact with their daughter who got abortion. The girl from the story is lucky to have at least a supporting father and siblings. Not all her whole family is nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:11 AM
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Not really. You aren't obliged to do it, but you can choose to help other people. It's still on you though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:09 AM
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It doesn't matter. You still don't owe her sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:05 AM
2

Well, appendix is inside you and still can kill you any day. As well as clots. Your lung also can get a whole in it for no particular reason, there's heart attack and strokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:03 AM
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Well, agree to disagree I guess. Again, it might be a cultural difference, in Russian "be wise" in the dating context has a terrible meaning behind it. But haven't you ever seen a guy justifying his cheating with "male nature"? There are a few users here who tried to argue that women shouldn't break up over being cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 03:49 AM
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Our bodies are rather weak and unpredictable at times. You can die from appendicitis or choke to death, before mass vaccination you could die from a scratch.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 03:46 AM
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Maybe you haven't heard it, because you're a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 03:35 AM
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I lurked FDS a bit to see what they're talking about, but I don't think I've seen much advice in lines of what I've listed. Red pill women are more into this kind of stuff besides open communication aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 03:35 AM
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It seems that in the US both men and women have terrible relations with food. For an outside it's hard to say why the hell food fucks you up, but I'd guess that bad eating habits, a lack of regulations and capitalism do the trick.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 03:33 AM
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Yes, if you look at it closely, lots of it is about manipulation. It isn't healthy or helpful imv.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 03:31 AM
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Most of this advice doesn't make much sense and do more harm than good. They're very popular in Russia (besides open communication) and we still have higher divorce rates than you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 03:30 AM
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There are enough men parroting the same advice as well. "Be wise" in the context of women and dating doesn't really mean actually being wise, it's about manipulation and letting him walk over you. Because that's what a wise woman does, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 03:28 AM
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The thing is that it was on your free will. You didn't have to do it and she didn't own you having sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 03:18 AM
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I've never felt romantic/sexual attraction to a person I've just met, it always takes quite a lot of time and "all starts should align" - we should have enough time, some common interests and I should find their smell attractive. Appearance and income don't play an important role in it, I've fallen for very different people looks-wise. It isn't only "beyond" their looks though, if I'm falling for someone, I start seeing their beauty more vividly as well. I can't say that appearance doesn't play …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 03:12 AM
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Sure, the advice "play dumb" usually goes with both things though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 05:23 PM
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So it's bad when women don't date Asian men due to internalized racism, but it's also bad when they realize it and change their ways. Edit: also it seems that she isn't married, she's dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 05:21 PM
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I don't agree with your premise, but I'm interested in discussing what kind of advice women usually get. And we get a lot of them. I'll list a few, feel free to add others. Some of them contradict each other, because they tend to be given by different people: Be pretty. That's pushed the most and truth to be told I've seen and heard a lot of women saying that it's the most important advice for a woman, as lots of men don't really look past one's appearance. You can be dumb as cork, but if you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 04:30 PM
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I have no idea who these men are, so I had to google them. I can't get attracted to strangers, but I can say that they're close to conventional attractiveness. Not sure what makes you question it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:55 PM
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They are. In my view the issue isn't so much in OLDs, social medias or beauty standards, but in the fact that overtime a lot of people stop "keeping the spark". They let themselves go, they don't romance/seduce their partners, they don't try out new things in their bedroom etc. Routine eats them up. Keeping attraction take time and efforts. Some enjoy it and don't view it as a job and they're the lucky ones. Others have to do conscious efforts. Lots just don't care enough. Another important note…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:53 PM
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A huge number, but a low percent, so nothing in your story makes sense, maybe besides the idea of making a fetus out of two eggs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:42 PM
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I think she means things like "all men cheat" or "all men think that women are inferior" or "all men would trade old wives if they could" etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 11:09 AM
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You've created your own horror story to fear of. Most women aren't bi/lesbians and they date and marry men. End of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 03:49 AM
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And even if it's true, it's still smarter than doing it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 08:18 PM
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I don't have past traumas related to dating to start with. I've just never dated anyone besides my husband. I did have unrelated to dating shitty experience with men though, like sexual harassment, groping, stalking etc. I also know a lot of stories about domestic abuse and have been around people who have experienced it or who had partners suffering from addictions or untreated mental issues and for some reason more often in the role of abuser/addict was a man. I don't extrapolate this stories …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 08:17 PM
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PC.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 07:20 PM
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Because not all women have PMS or have mood swings during it. Also because women aren't always the reason of the conflict and if they think that they're in the right in the moment, assuming that they're overreacting or can't think logically due to some hormonal changes won't help to solve the issue. Edit: considering your personal issues, PMS shouldn't be the excuse for abusive behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 06:51 PM
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It would depend on the context. If a woman has asked you why you don't want to date her or what you think about her appearance, telling her that she's kind of...too fat is okay. I don't think that you should remind her that it's unhealthy, fat people know it, they're fat, not stupid. About clothes - again, if it was asked for. Giving unprompted negative comments about someone else's appearance/health is just rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 06:47 PM
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What the hell, it's awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 06:40 PM
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It's going to take a really long time to get somewhat settled again, considering that femininity has been changing since feminism became a thing and we're still in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 06:38 PM
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I don't think that normalizing obesity is the opposite of shaming. The opposite of shaming is acceptance. People can look differently, we shouldn't shame them for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 06:35 PM
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Society needed a long time to start recognizing that shaming women for the way they look doesn't really help anyone. I hope we'll get to the point where this sacred knowledge will be applied to men as well. We can do our part in it by raising awareness and talking to people about male issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 06:04 PM
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It can be your sample, yes. Things also have might got worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 06:03 PM
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According to a 2018 Pew Research poll, about 29% of American adults now believe in astrology. Likewise, the poll found that women are more likely to believe in astrology (37%) than men are (20%). Astrology isn't exclusively male. I'd guess that "male astrology" nowadays is a chunk manosphere content like PUA, TRP (at least some parts of it), black pill etc. In some way, much higher rates for crime committing and incidents of any sorts can indicate lower IQ. I think you have to be rather stupid t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 06:02 PM
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The adult age group least likely to be obese is 16-24 year olds, with 56% at normal weight and 37% overweight or obese. Still more than a third of young people is overweight. Stats are better than in the US, but still not very good. And in the next age group (25-34) more than a half are overweight. https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn03336/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 05:47 PM
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Masculinity has been changing, as less men want and can adhere to traditional masculine role and because more people have started recognizing that some parts of what we consider masculine do more harm than good in the context of modern society. In some way it is a crisis. There's a conflict between the old view and modern one and a lot of uncertainty and vagueness, as we haven't formed yet our understanding of masculinity that would work well both for men themselves and for society they live in.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 05:44 PM
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The obesity prevalence was 40.0% among adults aged 20 to 39 years, 44.8% among adults aged 40 to 59 years, and 42.8% among adults aged 60 and older. And another one: Nearly 40% of American adults aged 20 and over are obese. 71.6% of adults aged 20 and over are overweight, including obesity. (National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey, 2017-2018; Harvard School of Public Health, 2020). It doesn't seem that younger people are doing that much better in terms of weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 05:19 PM
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I'm glad we've cleared things up :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:00 PM
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I'm sorry you have to go though all this. I hope it'll get better with time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:55 PM
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I'd support UBI for everyone, not just as a way to help incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:53 PM
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I'm not sure how a study with a rather small sample about male and female roommates proves that men are better friends. Okay, I see your point. We got confused, because we mixed casual and LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:49 PM
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No. I've been there for my partner when he needed me, I've seen him in various emotional states. This kind of shared experience has deepened our bonds, not the other way around. I value the trust he has for me and his ability to open up and talk about his feelings and worries. I think emotional vulnerability can be a turn off both for men and women that a) have issues with emotional intimacy themselves, b) are into traditional gender roles or at least some parts of them, c) aren't that into you …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:05 PM
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Can confirm, although my sample is literally one. I think I've also heard about it already.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:45 PM
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Can't watch the video right now. Can you quote the numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 11:54 AM
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Sorry, sloppy reading is sloppy. I can't find current stats though. Google gives me about students: Annual prevalence of Adderall use within grades 8, 10 and 12 in the U.S. 2009-2020. As of 2020, the percentage of 12th grade students that had tried Adderall within the past year was around 4.4 percent. And at least among them it doesn't seem to be much higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 11:34 AM
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Taking the sample in these studies as representative (as the investigators intended), between 2% and 3% of the total population must have received amphetamines by prescription in the course of a year. This, together with the 0.2% of the general population identified as “habituated or addicted,” implies a dependency rate among past-year medical amphetamine users of 6.7% to 10%
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 11:22 AM
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"Women were happier when they were housewives! And now they're all depressed and take antidepressants" I'd guess that it's better to take antidepressants rather than meth: According to FDA manufacturer surveys, by 1962, US production reached an estimated 80000 kg of amphetamine salts, corresponding to consumption of 43 standard 10-mg doses per person per year on a total-population basis. Thus, in amphetamine alone, the United States in the early 1960s was using nearly as much psychotropic medica…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 07:43 AM
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Considering that an average man (and woman) is overweight and broke, I'd guess that their best shot is to get fit and wealthy. If you're interested in casual scene, you should concentrate on improving your appearance and social skills. Get and stay fit, get a good haircut, clothes that fit you, a good perfume, learn to be comfortable around people, make people feel at ease around you etc. Casual scene is harder for men, because there are far more demands than offers. Less women than men are inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 06:39 AM
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I've seen a few users here who said they're into short guys. And I know one woman in real life, who likes fragile-looking boys. But overall, I guess it's rather rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 05:15 AM
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Please, don't generalize what she's saying to whole Russia. She's delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 05:06 AM
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"Hubby" is just a sweet word. Like wifey.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:49 AM
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Sorry, I don't discuss politics here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:48 AM
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What's demeaning about "my hubby"? And there was another male user who was pissed with women not calling their husbands "hubby" and calling them partners because he thought it made it closer to a business deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:43 AM
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I suspect that a lot of trolls do use their own views but exaggerate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:42 AM
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I'd say women tend to have deeper friendship bonds, it doesn't mean they don't want to develop them with their SO. Romantic relationships are great because they can provide you with all benefits of all other close relationships. So you'd have sex with a woman who you wouldn't enjoy spend time outside of having sex, but for an LTR you do want someone who'd provide friendship benefits as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:41 AM
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For now you can't really prove yourself right.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:36 AM
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I think the ideal variant is when both partners have similar income. A significant difference (either down or up) makes it harder to match lifestyles without getting a dependent partner or becoming depending on them. So yes, as long as they could afford similar comfortable lifestyle and I didn't have to support them. Yes, if there's a big difference but they're working on their career and are okay with me earning more. No, if they expect me to provide for them and they aren't planning to climb t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:34 AM
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I'm really not sure that most men are like you. It's kind of...sad, I guess. Also you contradict yourself: There's obviously requirements I expect of anyone that has access to me (bringing peace, basic compatibility, being a friend) but none of those things require sexual exclusivity. The ONLY reason to be sexually exclusive to someone has to be sexual in nature. So would you or wouldn't you date someone who didn't bring any friendship benefits to your relationships and who you wouldn't enjoy sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:54 PM
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Sure. There's nothing to call her out for though, as this kind of answers aren't that rare (at least in this sub).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:51 PM
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That's great. I wish we had something similar here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:47 PM
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Not this again. You can read my discussion with the other user about "low salaries are because of women participating in labor force". Considering girl/boy game, I'm not convinced at all. Birth rates are dropping everywhere and some Asian countries have one of the lowest rates. The USSR got a massive drop in birth rates after the war and it's understandable, but it never returned to the previous level and I guess you won't claim that it was due to Americanization or something like this. The same…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:45 PM
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She can focus on whatever she wants and ask appropriate questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:34 PM
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Men are free to vet for a partner who is consistent in their values and plans.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:34 PM
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Most women and quite a lot of men. I guess I should have specified that most people wouldn't date such partner long-term. Men are okay with banging whoever is willing enough even if they hate this person's guts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:27 PM
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I'm talking about posts where people ask for preferences. The OP has seen answers like "hot and agreeable" most likely in some of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:27 PM
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I've probably heard most of them already. Men here jump to either "you're lying/coping" or "you must be ugly". Also "you're lesbian".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:26 PM
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My husband and I use reusable towels and shopping bags. We want to install a bidet and I'm curious about composting, but I'm not sure that it's possible living in a flat. We recycle some things, but here it's rather a task, as it isn't really developed or wide-spread, so there are few collecting spots and you have to drive to most of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:25 PM
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If you claim that trad marriages are about kids, my husband and I don't qualify because we don't have any. If you don't count our cat as one, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:31 PM
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Right now I'm not really arguing about marriage as a concept, I'm arguing with you calling me trad, because I don't qualify according to your own definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:08 PM
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So is trad marriage about kids or not? How can we be trad without kids? We're in our middle 20s, even if we decide to have kids, we won't till 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:15 PM
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Interracial and intercultural marriages are on the rise due to globalization and higher rates of immigration. It also seems that it's more common among men rather than among women. Intermarriage rates in Sweden have risen continuously since the 1970s, and the increase has been somewhat steeper for men than for women. Between 1990 and 2009, the share of immigrant-native marriages increased from 8 to 13 percent for men, but only from 7 to 9 percent for women (Elwert 2018). Previous studies have sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:14 PM
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Do they have a good lifestyle and would you be comfortable being one of them? The numbers I found are about Germany and it seems that having kids is still rather costly there. I'm really glad that your mother is good at budgeting and that she married a good man. It doesn't mean that one example overrides the statistics. Considering that ~50% marriage end in divorce and that women suffer worse consequences of it financially, also that educated women have lower divorce rates, it makes sense that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 02:48 PM
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I highly doubt that these men complain about birth rates, most likely they look and find women interested in having kids. Because quitting and complaining surely won't help them building a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 02:26 PM
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So it isn't about low birth rates, it's about women not settling for men they don't find attractive. The difference is that I think it's okay and you think that women are entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 02:24 PM
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Men are free to seek women who do want to have kids and provide for these women, so they could have a bunch of kids. "Wanting" doesn't mean actively pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 02:22 PM
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Okay, so you're a person who the OP talks about. You don't see any value in romantic relationships outside of sex and duties and that's why this question confuses you so much. Most people aren't like this and you can see it by reading other comments. No, these reasons don't have to be unique for romantic relationships. Once again, she isn't asking for unique reasons, but for all of them besides sex and duties. A lot of people wouldn't date a partner that didn't provide them with benefits of frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 02:20 PM
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Whatever, they claim that AWALT is AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 02:07 PM
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You've just said that marriage is about kids. We've been married for more than 3 years now and we still don't have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 02:06 PM
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When you're asked for your preferences and you say something in lines "hot and agreeable", people can interpret it in a way that you don't care about anything else. Not that it's the bare minimum, because you weren't asked about the minimum, you were asked about your preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:52 PM
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I'll try again. Would you date someone who wasn't providing you these things I've listed? Would you date a romantic partner who didn't love you, didn't made you feel loved, didn't enjoy spending time with you and didn't want to do it outside of sex or chores? The OP isn't asking for unique reasons, she asks for reasons besides sex and duties. If a reason isn't unique for something, it doesn't mean that it stops being a reason for it. I think most people value the things I've listed both in frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:49 PM
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Do you think it's something no one has ever told me? Men here oscillate between "no one but Chad can get pussy and be loved" and "your partner is a soy beta boy".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:45 PM
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