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Not every man you encounter but most men who want to be your "close friend".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 03:02 AM
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You say women have a strong preference for female friendship as if men don't prefer other men as friends lol (which is fine, idc). But this is usually true. Plus I don't agree that they make the same effort. I think some of them are not that concerned about friendships in the first place. They see their friends once in a blue moon and they don't feel as comfortable talking about their feelings or opening up that much and they are okay with this, or they seem to be (they prefer to deal with probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 02:48 AM
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Lmao there are many many deadbeat dads. Child support doesn't even compare to the responsibility of actually being a parent
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 01:57 PM
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Also wait till you find out not every man has the same libido either
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:57 AM

I've had long dry spells with my bf and nothing happened. Guys like you exist in large quantities but you're projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:54 AM
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See thank u for proving my point, idk why op acts as if guys like you don't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:48 AM
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Not all of them ofc, but don't pretend this isn't a thing after reading tons of men confirming exactly this, the red pillers, etc etc. there are in fact a lot of men like that who don't really like women beyond sex and don't enjoy spending time with them really And I'm not inventing this, I'm just repeating what they say
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 06:05 PM
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Not all of them ofc, but don't pretend this isn't a thing after reading tons of men confirming exactly this, the red pillers, etc etc. there are in fact a lot of men like that who don't really like women beyond sex and don't enjoy spending time with them really
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 06:04 PM
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Or maybe you're just not compatible with that woman 🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:56 PM
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Yeah if you think like that, definitely don't commit! You're doing women a favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 12:02 AM
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Yep I'd say it's mostly just lust
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:31 AM
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Both end up settling a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:28 AM
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Even a guy my size or short would have a physical advantage over me (most of the times)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 02:02 PM
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Yeah I agree that it's very uncommon and difficult to prevent. I'm sure the girl would have never imagined that it would happen to her, specially surrounded by her friends and in broad daylight. Even if he was a weirdo she wouldn't have expected *that. Maybe insults, him being disrespectful or aggressive but not pulling out a machete that he was hiding. It's difficult to know what correct answer is with someone that unhinged. Maybe even saying she had a bf would have sent him into a rage spiral …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:28 AM
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It might be my personal experience, but it seems that some of them respect more a hypothetical man that my "no"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:14 AM
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Tbh I still don't judge them for lying. I think that if they do it, it's because they're either avoiding an uncomfortable situation with a stranger (which is valid to me) or they felt something was off for whatever reason. Maybe their judgement is wrong but hey. Trust your intuition if you get a bad vibe. It depends on the context too (if you're in an unfamiliar setting, alone, if it's someone you know or not etc). Being wary of strangers in general is not that unheard of either. You don't what …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:13 AM
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Saying the wrong thing in the wrong situation to the wrong person can get you killed, I think that's a fact, you know that. Not just in this btw. And it's not her fault because she couldn't possibly know or be a fortune teller. She didn't know the guy had a machete or was a psychopath. Aren't you being a little disingenuous here just to defend women always being honest and avoid giving false hope or something? Idk. I'd say that if a woman feels unsafe or threatened for any reason, it's ok to mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:02 AM
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Is it really unkind if he's showing sings of belonging to that minority? Because I doubt that a guy that is capable of murdering someone with a machete because of rejection is a well adjusted individual
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:51 AM
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Tbh nothing is risk free if that guy is actually a creep who doesn't take a no for an answer. But from all the options I feel saying that it's safer (if I felt threatened for some reason). Some of them respect that more than any other excuse
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:47 AM
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Right. I wouldn't give a fake number, I'd just say that I have a boyfriend/husband. It's more effective and safer
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:39 AM
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It depends on the situation. If you feel unsafe for any reason it's ok to lie (it doesn't have to be life or death, it could just be that it's a stranger and you're not getting a good vibe from him, or you're in a setting that it's unfamiliar/alone). Also a stranger doesn't give a shit about you either. He'll be fine. I believe it's ok to be a bit selfish and put yourself first.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:34 AM
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She has the right to reject him. He can be on "her looks level" but still be boring, have 0 chemistry with her, and not feel him at all. What a weird way to see relationships
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 03:12 AM
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Then you can say it's true for both
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 09:02 AM
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Yeah but it's true that if you're ugly you'll have more bad experiences and more men will treat you badly Like it's a real phenomenon even if it doesn't apply to everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 04:59 AM
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I'd also say there is a decline decades later, from 30 to 50/60
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 04:20 PM
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Yeah it makes sense, I commented too quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 05:00 AM
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That makes more sense But at first it sounded like that was their general peak in life
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 04:59 AM
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Yeah... But even money is not the only thing when it comes to desirability. I think women will prefer a younger dude who is kind of well off, a middle ground. At my age I would not consider dating a guy in his 50s, just too similar to my dad. In his 30s maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 04:55 AM
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They're wrong. There are many attractive guys in their 30s and even 40s, but in your 50s the decline is evident, sorry, even if they're rich
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 04:53 AM
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At 50? That's way too old. I'd believe it if it was their 30s or something, but not 50s lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 04:52 AM
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But then why do you criticize women for their superficial standards? Aren't you doing kind of the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 04:42 AM

I wouldn't call rom coms or other romantic books realistic, we're often told that life isn't a Disney movie. I think men are more "passionate" (a lot of the times it's lust, infatuation or obsession), but not necessarily the true romantics. Women fantasize more about the ideal love, the perfect prince charming, and the proof is the millionaire industry of romantic novels written by and for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:15 AM

I don't live with him so idk. But it would affect my mental health negatively
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:12 AM

Are those men settling down and actually dating though? Because many go there just for fun
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:09 AM
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He's handsome but I just can't be with a person with those views, sorry. Not long term or for marriage, I would get too angry and we would have arguments. If it was any other disagreement maybe, but that issue makes me specially mad so no. We're just fundamentally incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:28 AM

Then if that CEO doesn't want to want to contribute to the house in a significant way or at all, why would I be struggling in my shitty job? It'd be more fair to me and that CEO if I become a SAHM (or work part time, way less hours etc). I mean, he can definitely support me and that'd leave me with more time to dedicate myself to the domestic sphere. But working 12 hours and doing housework alone is ridiculous. Either that, or he gets a partner within the same earning wage. Or option 3, they hir…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 08:40 AM

Like I get what you say but the low earning partner would get the short end of the stick, at that point I'd rather become a SAHM
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 08:32 AM

I'm talking about hard work, not necessarily the efficiency There are people with comfortable government jobs that'd make way more than the cashier, even if the cashier works way harder, is more stressed out etc. That's why dating someone within your earning wage is a good idea
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 08:23 AM

I think if they both work the same hours there needs to be a fair division of labor and childcare. More or less. It's really not fair on the other partner. And earning more doesn't always mean working more or harder. They can always date a person who earns the same. But I don't like how mainly men are excused for being neglectful parents because of this sorry. Those are his kids
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 08:06 AM

Because that's equity. Why would the partner who earns less pay the same? That way they never get to save their own money while the other partner benefits at their expense. I'd agree that it the partner who earns less works less hours, then they should spend more time on housework. But what if they work the same hours or even more? Then both need to contribute or one would get burned out and overwhelmed while the other rests.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:44 AM

Listen if she works outside the house many hours, there needs to be a fair division of labor. Even if she earns less. It's not an excuse to be a subpar dad. Even if he does a little more housework, he needs to contribute too. Specially with his children, he's the father as well. It's just not fair to dump a huge amount of housework/childcare on top of her job outside the house. She deserves to rest as well. You realize that you would be making her work way more hours than you? I get it that if s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:42 AM
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I'm not saying it's the same, but it does limit you. Not just in dating too. Friends, opportunities, work
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 07:51 AM
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Being shy limits you sooo much. And I'm not talking of being a little bit shy around strangers, I'm talking social phobia level of shy and shit social skills. Even as a woman it does limit you a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 01:45 AM
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If someone gets the ick because of the way you sit, or anything on that list, I'm afraid the relationship was not very strong to begin with, or her feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 09:22 PM
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I think a lot of them want the "status" (to put it some way) of getting a girl, the satisfaction and validation of being able to score, maybe a feeling of power. The sex is secondary to some of them. Not saying it's your case though, just something I've observed
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:22 AM
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About the last part, I just feel that in general, a lot of psychologists are shit. I've been to several therapists and no one could help so I get it. I'm sorry but I feel a lot of them are scammers. It's difficult to find a good one that actually helps
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 01:57 AM
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Being able to communicate or express emotions doesn't mean you're depressed, "mentally weak" etc don't get it twisted
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 01:52 AM
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I'm just too shy for that, it's not even about the gender roles
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:47 AM

I mean you said it, you shouldn't expect it in return. Fair, but she also can do as she pleases. If she does the tit for that maybe she doesn't enjoy the act either and only did it because she expected it to reciprocated and nothing more
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:43 AM

You mean like settling? I think a lot of people settle in some way in general, or start looking for a partner in a more rational than emotional way when they want to settle down
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:24 AM

Both should be vetted but it's true that women are more vulnerable when it comes to that and face greater risks
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:17 AM
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You don't know if she really gave it up quickly. Maybe she wants some commitment to have sex, and doesn't really enjoy casual sex with people she doesn't know much or isn't familiar with. And she might be thinking "if I have sex too early I might cause a bad impression" But you're not forced to stay with anyone. You can have your rules and leave whenever you want. But to me it makes sense, I wouldn't like to have sex in the first date. Maybe in the following dates after I'm more familiar with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:52 PM
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Only in clubs/discos Other than that, no
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:02 AM
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They're definitely way more open minded
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 03:56 PM
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Men are usually more assertive and put themselves first/choose themselves. More self respect at times
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 03:56 PM
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Joining a debate/discussion forum and saying ppl are bitter because they write comments and argue lol. I'm not attacking OP I just fail to see the problem bc of what I said before
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 03:51 PM
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What do you propose to ease this "disadvantage"? Like what is the solution. Prostitution already exists
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 07:51 PM
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I don't have such cynical view of relationships tbh. Yes all relationships are transactional to a degree, in the sense that I'd leave if none of my needs are being met (if he doesn't support me emotionally, doesn't pull his weight in his assigned chores, treats me badly etc), you usually want to receive the energy you give. But there is more in a *good relationship than attraction. There's supposed to be a bond, a friendship, two people genuinely liking each other for who they are and enjoying e…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:40 PM
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Exactly lol and we have weapons now, we don't need to start a fist fight with a bear That might have been true in prehistoric ages but now it's obsolete
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:10 PM

If they didn't protect us from themselves, what would they protect us from? Bears? The wind? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:55 PM
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It's not about being cOmPleX, it's just that there is diversity in life iykyk
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:50 PM
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Not even about looks, but if you think coldly, maybe you or your partner are not such special people (personality wise). But it's ok because that person is special to you, they're your person with whom you have built many memories and have a profound connection. As long as he finds me beautiful, compliments me, loves me, idc. He doesn't need to compare me to other women either, these things are better left unsaid, but yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 07:14 AM
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What you say is true. But in some cases attraction isn't always about looks, although ofc it's easier bc of looks. But we've all seen a guy who was not a looker being able to pull a pretty girl because he was confident, funny or intelligent enough. Or maybe he had some status. I get it but there's more nuance though
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:52 AM
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It's so funny to see people realizing that women like attractive men and looks do matter as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:42 AM
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Isn't was this sub is for? Debating and rambling? Hm
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:39 AM
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I don't think we're 100% freed. Sure independence is way more encouraged but for example when motherhood enters the picture, things change a lot and a lot of women will end up doing the traditional role of caregivers. Imo that's a role that is still imposed on us more But I'll say that I agree that some women are less progressive in some of their actions and expectations of men even if they don't admit it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:38 AM
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I just don't get why op is bitter at this. He frames this as if it's all giving and no taking. Yes this role exists and some women can be "taken care of" or have a provider, so what? But as he points out, this can become commodification. Nothing is for free. I also don't think all these things are that accessible to every woman at all, it's just not as easy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:22 AM
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He thinks having this possibility is a privilege and says women wouldn't want to trade roles when he wouldn't want that either. Also having someone take care of you can be comfortable but comes at the expense of your freedom. Also it's stupid to think men get nothing out of transactional relationships (and these traditional relationships are transactional)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:42 AM
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People engage in behaviors that don't make sense "biologically" all the time, it's nothing new
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:39 AM
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This is just untrue. Absolutes are always simplistic and reductionists. My mom loves my dad to death, also very emotionally dependent on him, and he was a sahd (also had stuff and invested on the side), but she was always the one with money. You're generalizing a lot and there is diversity. You're not gonna convince me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:37 AM
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In a survival scenario I doubt the man would "provide". It will likely be self interest since humans are selfish beyond anything. I just remember those kids lost in the Colombian jungle, who were able to survive thanks to the older girls' knowledge about nature and survival lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:38 AM
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This all powerful and almighty biological hardwire also fails for men as well. Domestic work is often not valued that much and some men (shared experiences of Sahms who're married to shitty husbands) feel resentful because they work a lot while she stays at home, become stingy and mad when she uses *their money. Some call them "mantenidas" (maintained, idk how to translate it), are paranoid about women using them for their money etc. It's not always black and white. Financial abuse is also real.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:29 AM
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It's a fact that some men feel uncomfy when their wife out earns him. Which wouldn't add up if they thought of her as an equal person. It would be irrelevant. Some women want providers, true. Some women are fairly traditional in dating whether they admit it or not. But it's not true that all career women hate their husbands if they earn less because they're "biologically hardwired" or that this is an inevitable reality because biOloGy. Specially that part is bs and humans are more complex than t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:09 AM
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Why do you create multiple responses to the same comment? Is this what being with an "educated" woman involves? - Extremely stupid ad hominem comment lol. "Ouuu you're a strong independent woman??" Get some new material. I don't believe women are hardwired to be "supported." We have worked as teams and this notion of men as the sole provider is relatively modern anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:05 AM
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What I'm saying is that some people believe women are biologically hard wired to be "submissive", and that's just not true Some men feel lesser than if they're not the "providers", which is true. The breadwinner dynamic doesn't have to have any feelings attached, but people attach them anyway. Traditionally, the breadwinner was seen as the head of the house and the leader. It was not me who invented this notion. Ideally everything should be more neutral
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:01 AM
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Men as the "good provider" https://pressblog.uchicago.edu/2019/03/13/womens-history-month-lets-talk-about-sexual-division-of-labor.html
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:58 AM

We're talking about this workaholic career woman, not the average woman who most likely doesn't out earn her husband, specially when she becomes a mother and she makes most of the sacrifices And maybe you should read more because working class women have always worked and brought food to the table, not to mention pre industrial societies. Again the exclusive housewife who just was at home was never the norm throughout history lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:39 AM
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It might be less common but I've seen it, you never know! My dad decided to be a sahd for some years. Idk if he was taken care of but didn't have the expected role either
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:37 AM
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"Mythical insecure and emasculated husband" who doesn't feel right when his wife out earns him since he doesn't feel like a leader anymore is totally unreal, but the girlboss career woman boss babe slay queen evil manhater who just likes Chad (6,6, millionaire with chiseled jaw) is absolutely common and not a caricature
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:36 AM
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It's the men who feel emasculated. I wouldn't use that as an insult because I don't believe it should be a concept in the same place, nor do I believe being feminine or similar to women to put it some way is demeaning. It's them who think that and you know that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:29 AM

The so called protection usually came with loss of autonomy, control over or own lives and less rights. It was not for free! We were conveniently seen as less capable (many misogynists say women are like children) so paternalistic sexists argued that women couldn't vote, own property or make certain decisions for themselves because we didn't know better, so men had to lead us. They do not have a natural instinct to protect women as a whole, they protected what they thought was their property. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:28 AM

And because they don't like a woman who they feel is not beneath them. She has to stroke their ego, not make them feel smaller. How can she do that if she's more successful and has more money than him. He needs to be "on top" Sometimes she's not even a workaholic with no life outside her job, just a woman with a nice job, good salary, or just more well off than them. The career woman is a caricature atp too, for some it's just a woman who works and is single.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:42 PM

These evil women "hating" their husbands because they earn more money sounds like a rage fantasy tbh. Based on the insecurity of these men because they feel emasculated (and when they're insecure and bitter they also tend to not treat their wives well)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:35 PM

The average person is not a workaholic, man or woman. We just work to survive, most don't even like their jobs that much. The thing is there is more backlash to "career women". 🤷🏻‍♀️ It's uncomfortable for some conservative people and we know why
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:31 PM

What is the biological reality of having a career in a corporate job? Maybe it's more "biological" for men to hunt animals and go to war I guess lol. A lot of our modern lives are not "natural" and it doesn't matter. We have more options now and what was necessary before to survive, isn't anymore. Therefore even if there is some instinct I don't have to partake in whatever role was designed for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:28 PM

If we're talking about men going to an office job and bringing money to his family... yeah those concepts are social and "invented" lol. We're social creatures. It's like monogamy, it's a social strategy. But there were other systems as well And in some societies it was mainly women taking care of babies while men took little responsibility as fathers, children were more communal. And you talk about being a provider for a family. As if women didn't work or provided resources for the community in…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:07 PM
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Throughout history, we were basically second class citizens, treated as property and the man was the authority, simple as that. We were seen as secondary, an auxiliary role and a lot about traditional femininity is centered around "serving" and being submissive. The man was head of the house and he had the final word and more control over the family. From an article about sexual division of labor: "In England (and later its colonies), married women were subject to coverture, a legal provision st…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:30 PM
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I'd say a person who prioritizes career over any aspect of life. Their hobbies, free time, family, friends, romantic life etc. Not necessarily bad, you have to know your priorities. And also someone who talks A LOT about their job, thinks and investigates about their job even when they're "off duty", kind of like a workaholic Yeah I think even if it's your priority, you need to be careful and have something else going on as well. You might loose that career, who knows, and it can become a way to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:55 PM
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Oh yes I'm aware that many women pursue that, but how many will be successful? I think many will end up with a man within their own social class. Or slightly above her economic status. But it's rare that a trailer park woman bags the super rich guy. As I see it it's mostly a fantasy that only lasts for so long. Nowadays it's difficult to maintain kids and a household just with one salary, even if it's a decent salary from a middle class man
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:51 PM
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That provider thing is not as available as it used to be anymore. Now most houses need 2 incomes unless you're able to meet a man with a lot of money. And let's be real a lot of women don't have access to these men because they tend to move within their own social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:33 PM

And btw they're not biologically hardwired to do that, it's mostly a sociocultural phenomenon. This was just an useful strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:32 PM

Huh some modern men definitely make their careers their identity or they're very focused on them, on money, social status etc. They're ambitious and their drive is not just procreating and providing. They're individualistic and self centered, they put themselves first. Some of them not even have families either. But for some people, an ambitious woman who puts family in a secondary place is an uncomfortable reality to them. And I could say the same about goofy men in this sub when they talk abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:17 PM
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Is it that crazy to want a partner who shares my ideas? Hm. Why would a MRA want a feminist anyway. Being neutral or less into these issues but still egalitarian is the compromise here
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:00 PM
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Work for me? Maybe, if I become a SAHM, but unlikely with Spain's economy. But if I'm staying at home, I'm also working, just domestic work. And let me control him? Idk about that, that's more about the character of each person
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:05 PM
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I've seen that it has become quite popular in TikTok and social media (shera7 for example). It's a weird concept of women empowerment but at the end of the day it's just sugaring and depending on a man financially, plain and simple. Just the usual fantasy of finessing a man and living a soft life. A lot of these women are just tired, are living in times of precariousness, unmotivated with their jobs... It's normal in modern society. I don't know how many women are actually able or cut to live th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:51 PM
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Maybe boss babes are just not compatible with traditional men who want a housewife who takes care of them. It's pretty simple, actually. Also not all men want kids. It's ok if a woman doesn't want to make marriage and kids the center of her life. We have to know our priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:40 PM
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What's wrong about talking about social issues, politics, justice etc. If equality is a topic that interests me, it's ok. I'll find someone who's not triggered by this topic. Also it was us women who got the short end of the stick (in money, positions of power, rights, social status and hierarchy etc) until very recently. Now there's more nuance but not perfect. But yeah being a feminist why would I date a MRA? They're usually very against feminism and hostile to women/women's issues in general.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:32 PM
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"Preach about equality" good for them! Nothing wrong about that. By any means if you don't want a "boss babe" it's up to you, but I don't see how being really focused on a career is bad. Men can do it and make their career their identity, no one complains. But women are expected to centre family and kids in their lives I guess. Anything but themselves. Maybe some dads should also centre family more
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:27 PM
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But you seem to frame these traditional roles as a privilege for the woman, but tbh you probably wouldn't want to "trade roles" either. These very traditional roles are transactional and the man is also getting something out of the equation. Whether it's housework, some type of service, sex, the kids being taken care of, idk. Tbh I prefer a more egalitarian relationship anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:54 PM
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Would you like to be "led" and let a woman take control of your life and decisions? I bet you don't. My boyfriend doesn't randomly give me money either lol but good to know
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:05 PM
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Uh that's what I said, that they settle. Read better. But even if you settle for appearance, you shouldn't accept a bad partner/a partner that treats you badly, that was my point
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:03 AM
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I'm from Spain. I think for some people it might be easier to meet new people because we tend to be more social than in other places, go out more etc. Ppl might be a little bit more open. I met my bf through a friend of mine etc. I don't think men here are very chivalrous or have a traditional provider mindset. Sometimes they'll pay for the first date if they are the ones asking you out, but nah, pretty much 50/50. But tbh I have not been in the dating scene myself because I've been in a long te…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:23 AM
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If you think these women talk down on men you should see how incels talk about women in their forums, or your average misogynist. They're usually more aggressive and resentful
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:36 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:20 AM
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Tbh I think many women settle for guys that they're not super 100% into. But maybe they get guys wanting to hook up but not settle down. And sometimes you're also looking for someone who could be a good partner even if he's not that hot (personality wise, a good person) but that's difficult to find too. Other "femcels" are too shy with terrible terrible social skills. That limits you if you want to meet people. They get stuck in their comfort zone
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:14 AM
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I guess some want to feel desired and also problems with their self worth, perceived status, etc. They want to feel normal?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:48 PM
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I think a lot of women say that it's icky to date their friends and if they're really friends, they don't really see them that way. Doesn't apply to all of them, but I think it's kind of true if they have been friends for a long time Hence why you see men complaining about the friend zone
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 03:04 PM
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Of course women are not entitled to your "friendship" or whatever. The door is open and no one is obligated to stay. It's best for both parties if you cut ties. But be honest, most of the times the guy in question did not really value the supposed friendship very much and thinks it has no value if he's not gonna get sexual/romantic gratification. It is what it is. If we're being real most guys just don't want to be friends with women, that's why I prefer girl friends or gay friends in any case
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:29 AM
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If you really like a woman, presenting yourself as a "friend" will not be very wise. Better be pretty clear with your intentions, flirt etc, that's not incompatible with getting to know someone. If you're very sneaky about it, I mean. You risk being put in the friend category/box
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:26 AM
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I never said you can't
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 01:17 PM
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Sometimes they just wanted sex since the beginning. So it's upsetting because it's fake and disingenuous. You thought you had a friend but he never valued your friendship and would never consider spending time with you if you weren't attractive to him. You can say it doesn't happen but it does. I know there is more nuance this but this definitely happens. So no, sometimes it's not just "a genuine friendship and then feelings appear organically." Those men can't see you as an individual beyond th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 05:51 AM
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And that doesn't mean you don't like what you have. You do, but maybe your fantasies are models etc
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:51 AM
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In committed serious relationships, women settle. A lot
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:49 AM
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Yeah, but it's work and more stress, having to think and deal with that. For example my mom used to remember all the birthdays and buy gifts for my father's relatives. It does benefit my dad because he doesn't have to worry about it and he gets to maintain those social networks and be seen as considerate (even though they know it's my mom controlling that stuff, the gifts are in name of the family so). It does benefit the husbands as well. If they (the husbands) want more social connections, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 06:22 PM
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I'm 23, right now it is. Maybe later in life, with different circumstances (who knows if I'll get divorced or whatever) who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:49 PM
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Nah, shy women struggle a lot too. At least in finding a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 07:45 AM
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True but that's assuming that woman in particular has many suitors. He doesn't have to be model material or even conventionally attractive, or be her ideal man, but at least she has to feel some chemistry with him or attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 04:27 PM
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Maybe. But it's a price you have to pay. They'd feel something at the back of their head all the time. Also having to be fake sometimes etc
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 05:05 AM
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It's so funny because I said that women should not settle and one man told me "ok then enjoy your miserable lonely life with cats as your only companion, while your friends have grandchildren" Oh, excuse me? I thought we were evil for settling sith the "beta" provider man, or whatever. Also, when women are treated badly by men, they told them that they should just have chosen a better man. But if we raise our standards, they get mad. They're so hypocritical and manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 03:30 AM
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I think you would have likely felt trapped and uneasy after a while. And you'd be more annoyed by them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 12:30 PM
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Settling for someone you don't like is how you find miserable men in marriages making those "I hate my nagging wife" jokes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 09:50 PM
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I'm in a relationship already, but thanks for your concern. But what I said earlier is true. Being with someone you're not attracted to at all will only lead to resentment and a feeling of being trapped.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 09:48 PM

Personally I wouldn't have a man's kids without being married. Specially if I plan on staying home. You can't expect women to be housewives without any security. If no kids, then sure, I wouldn't mind not marrying
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 09:05 PM
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It would have been fun in theory but I don't know... Knowing myself it would have caused more woes than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 09:00 PM
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I'm from Spain. Here it's difficult to get a stable job for most people my age. I'll need some stability first and I also need maturity. I'm not ready emotionally or mentally for a kid at 23. I'd marry at 25 or 26 with no problem, or settle down. But you overestimate how hard is raising kids. Imo it's better to do it after 25 when you're more mature. Personally I'd do it at 28 minimum
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 08:59 PM
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Exactly. I also want to live some years and spending time on myself before I do that. I've barely tasted freedom and independence at 23, I want to be able to enjoy my freedom, my own money and autonomy before. Then at 28 or so I'll consider it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 08:56 PM
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Settling for someone you ultimately don't like or you're not attracted to is a route for misery. It's better to be single than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 08:46 PM
2

Khmer culture comes to my mind
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 03:11 AM
2

In real life, people don't care as much. Not all men are trad either. However one thing is not being a virgin and another being hypersexual and very promiscuous. But the promiscuous woman will likely get someone anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 02:56 AM
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You can't prevent circumstances like this from happening, so don't marry
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 02:54 AM
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I think there needs to be equity. If your partner is an specially vulnerable position, you pick their slack and support them. It's not about breastfeeding being hard work, but she's recovering physically from labor, than can often be very tough on women. You can't be 50/50 with a woman that gave birth days ago, it's not fair. Let her rest for some time and then when she's healed you can go back to the previous arrangement. Same thing if the husband gets sick and can't work
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 02:51 AM
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They really don't know shit about postpartum. They can't even help their wives out while they're recovering from C sections and severe tears. Making them overwork themselves physically means less recovery and issues in the long term. If he's on paternity leave that's to take care of the baby too
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 02:47 AM
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My mother for example couldn't walk for a whole month. But you expect her to do chores as usual. Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 02:43 AM
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It depends on the kind of labor. If you have a C section or a 3rd or 4th degree tear, best believe you're gonna need way more rest and support. At least in the first stages she shouldn't do much around the house and other people should help with that. It's a moment in which the dad needs to step up
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 02:42 AM
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If you want something beneficial for you, you won't find it in a guy who agrees with even some of the red pill. It's 90% misogyny. A normal guy is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 02:40 AM
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Red pillers aren't usually interested in dating women and getting committed to them. They're usually too resentful of women to do that. They prefer to focus on themselves, money etc And idk who that man is (the husband of the woman of the screenshot) but I'm happy for her. She deserves to rest after giving birth
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 02:38 AM
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