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She's Catholic and insisted at the beginning of the relationship that even though she's had sex with a handful of guys in the past, she decided right before she met me that she wants to suddenly start following her religion and wait until after marriage to have sex. Once a slut, always a slut. Nothing's changed at all. You just need to provide the context to let her hamster get to work and then she'll start fucking you, but don't commit until you've fucked her.
/r/askTRP21/02/15 11:21 PM
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I'd consider not texting her for a day or two and then saying something like, "Oops, had some other shit going on."
/r/askTRP21/02/15 11:16 PM
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I would never trust a woman with that kind of power over my physical well being.
/r/askTRP21/02/15 11:14 PM
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It seems un-alpha to me that you would enter any social situation and say whatever the fuck you want at the risk of being socially ostracized. Then you don't get the concept of being alpha yet. An alpha is his own man who makes his own decisions and pursues his goals. He's not living for my approval, your approval, her approval, or anyone but his. He's just himself and strives to be the best him possible. TRP theory and the experiences of those of us who are alphas, shows that this will usually …
/r/TheRedPill21/02/15 10:40 PM
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I talk that way because I want to and because I don't give a fuck if it offends people. TRP grows just fine without pandering to the masses.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/15 09:58 PM
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When we get a world without alcohol, I'd let you know.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/15 09:57 PM
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One of the big ideas of TRP is abundance mentality. Would you have gone back to a chick you emasculated yourself in front of, with probably no chance of sleeping with, if you had 100 women hanging off you? If not, you at least didn't do the wrong thing. Losing a chick is much less harmful than over-pursuing or emasculation.
/r/askTRP21/02/15 05:21 AM
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The important thing is that you're not orbiting her anymore. The fact that you posted this and were involved in the comments shows that she's still not irrelevant to you. That's not shitty of you or anything, it's probably expectable all things considered, but you stood your ground. Don't worry about plating her. Don't worry about exactly how you look. The important thing is you're not being a pussy beta orbiter for her anymore.
/r/askTRP21/02/15 04:20 AM
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What your source said: 18.3% of women are raped and 4.8% of men are forced to penetrate in their lifetimes. In the year studied, the amount of women raped and men forced to penetrate in the previous 12 months were the same. I also pointed you to the figures which show the same number of rapes as made to penetrates. Again, 2.1 and 2.2. I said cases were equal, not victims. I'm assuming you're talking about the increased risk men face of assault or homicide. Talking about all violent crime includi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 02:15 AM
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The most recent DOJ report says 1/166. Not sure if that's campus or the general population but since campus is better off than the general population, that's the worst the number could possibly be.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/15 12:34 AM
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So you're saying that the same men are repeatedly victimised to the point where despite the fact that four times as many women as men are raped/forced to penetrate a roughly equal number of incidents occur? I can't say I see any evidence for this at all. You would need multiple years of data showing this to even begin to make that kind of speculation much less call it fact. But I literally cited a source. If you want to disregard the entire study then I'm down because I think it sucks but whatev…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 11:19 PM
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I didn't say you'll impress women within hours but you'll sound okay with just a few chords, good enough to enjoy yourself and not sound too obnoxious when people hear you practice.
/r/askTRP20/02/15 12:39 PM
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Yeah, learn three chords and a small bit of rhythm.
/r/askTRP20/02/15 12:38 PM
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Play the guitar. Women love it, you'll sound at least okay within hours, and you can take it really far.
/r/askTRP20/02/15 05:21 AM
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He's shit testing you. Handle it like any other, but do keep locking your doors.
/r/askTRP20/02/15 05:10 AM
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Part of being a beta orbiter is actually orbiting. If you don't constantly give them validation, you don't act as their emotional tampon, you don't pedestal them, you don't buy them shit, you don't white knight for them, and so on, then you're not an orbiter. TRP doesn't preclude you from talking to women who you aren't fucking, it just doesn't emphasize it.
/r/askTRP20/02/15 04:58 AM
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There is no fixing this society without removing women's suffrage, and there is no removing women's suffrage without revolution. Nahh, you just gotta get rid of the white knights and get men to act in their own self interest. If mensrights ever catches on then there'll be some hope.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/15 04:53 AM
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TRP isn't about seeing yourself as the prize. It's about actually becoming the prize. It's a long road of self improvement. Towards the beginning, all you get is a dream.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/15 04:47 AM
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I lay out a pretty large case if you read the thread but otherwise to respond, I can only do that if you have specific stats in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 04:29 AM
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Many of the women in that study also had multiple perpetrators. Source for it being the same number of abuses? Figures 2.1 and 2.2 show 1.7 million rapes of women and 1.67 million made to penetrates for men. That's less than a 1 in 300 difference which isn't statistically significant. It should also be noted that it's consistent with the reality that women are vast majority of those killed by domestic violence I'm not commenting on Australia. In the US, it's not that way according to most studie…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 04:29 AM
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From the original comment: "There literally isn't one quantifiable way in which women are worse off that isn't silly horseshit like manspreading or catcalling, or issues not caused by sexism such as periods and pregnancy." I'd say that if this is a political move rationally supported by many perfectly capable women then it counts as not due to sexism and would fall under the category of periods and pregnancies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 04:01 AM
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It's not relevant that shit loads of women support restrictions on abortion? How exactly do you come to that conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 03:42 AM
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Not according to pro-life women. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/08/02/guess-who-likes-the-gops-20-week-abortion-ban-women/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 03:12 AM
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Yeah, it's spread across fewer men but it's the same number of abuses. I don't think any of us are in a position to say if it's better to have two get raped once or one get raped twice. I screenshot'd the tables from this study for both the women's lifetime domestic abuse victimisation rate and the men's. As you can see, men commit the vast majority of severe partner violence (nonstraight people are in there but are a small minority), with the difference becoming bigger as the violence becomes m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 03:11 AM
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Not a hamster, this one's straight forward. First, the typically cited study finds NO verifiable gap. Second, you laughed at me for the daily mail and now you're citing The AAUW? You do realize that's a large organization of radical feminists, right? Not exactly unbiased or trustworthy. What kind of hamster do you have that says this isn't hypocritical?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 03:08 AM
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I'm agnostic about the rest of the world. Very few people, myself included, seem to know more about it than media headlines. Moreover, those headlines really ignore men's issues. The amount of sex slavery, rape, castration, and so on is just enormous. Being forced into fighting in war and so on is just terrifying and I don't know that it's easy to say without much more research than most privileged nation dwellers (including myself) are more willing to do, that one gender obviously has it worse.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:57 AM
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So you not only don't know the definition of "quantifiable", you also don't know the definition of "inconsequential". No, I know these definitions. I'm saying the CV study shows something that's quantifiable but clearly not disadvantaging women because of what the others studies I linked to show. Women must have some reciprocal advantage making up for it. Inconsequential doesn't mean "doesn't exist", it means "not important". 0.1% interest on $10 is inconsequential but you'd by objectively wrong…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:55 AM
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Lol how is abortion not a gendered issue? Meaning it's not split by gender who believes what about the issue. I only debate people that can reconcile new evidence with their previous assertions. You didn't provide new evidence in this comment. You just asked what I meant by a term.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:47 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:46 AM
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That's besides the point! It's quantifiable! I said quantifiable disadvantage. If it's inconsequential then it's not a disadvantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:46 AM
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91% of rape victims are women. Just noting that in another comment in this thread, you took back this claim after seeing contrary evidence. Abortions are illegal in certain states like North Dakota Many women do not want abortions legal. It's a genuine controversy that doesn't fall on gendered lines. 77% of single parents are mothers. This doesn't take into account how many men try and fail to get custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:44 AM
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So when you said "There literally isn't one quantifiable way in which women are worse off" you didn't actually mean it. I offer you studies and studies and you counter with "It really just seems very likely...", as if that's a valid response to a quantifiable statement. Seriously, what's your definition of "quantifiable"? Not sure why "seems likely" doesn't apply. Literally all of empirical investigation goes by what seems likely. You didn't present the methods but for some reason you're boldly …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:40 AM
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I don't think my evidence was weak. I gave good evidence that one phenomenon wasn't sufficient for another. By definition, that means you cannot conclude solely from it that the other applies. it's possible for red pillers to be full of it based on their thinking women have it better, yet not wanting to be women. This isn't at odds with what I said. I said that you can't conclude it solely from the one condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:35 AM
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You're dismissing cognitive psychology though. A person's happiness level is largely innate and stable throughout life. Bad events can make it drop for a while, but it usually returns to baseline. Good events can make it increase for a while, but again, you adapt. That's why some people are somehow just so happy all the time and some people are miserable no matter what. None of what I'm suggesting is inconsistent with this though. I'm just suggesting a higher baseline for women. No one is happy …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:21 AM
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I don't think that's an accurate representation of my argument. I said that figures in the ballpark of this study usually get their data on arrests but that arrests aren't the thing to measure for well known reasons. It's hard to say if I'm right since you only linked to a summary of the study but based on what I've read, it seems very likely that this is a study measuring arrests. Adding support to my point, a lot more sources that don't rely on arrests from non-biased institutions are consiste…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:18 AM
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Well sure, that's easy. An argument "from that" would be a conditional argument in which that is the antecedent and that TRPers are full of shit would be the consequent. So then an argument solely (another word you should have bolded) from that antecedent would have to be sufficient. However, a sufficient condition must guarantee the necessary condition rather than just leave it open as a possibility. I'd start reading here since it's pretty basic stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:12 AM
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Wow, I forgot to reply to it. I could swear I had written a reply. It's hard to really look at how specifically they got the 85% stat since you didn't link to the full study. Usually stats in the ballpark of 85% come from arrests and not from reported violence. Since it's currently true that men who are getting abused are more likely than their abuser to get arrested, even if the abuse is one way and the man is the victim, that's just not a good way to judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:08 AM
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If you cite the primary source I'll believe you https://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2009/data/table_07.html http://ojp.gov/programs/pdfs/prea_nprm_iria.pdf Second topic, LOLDAILYMAIL. Although they source the department of justice I can't find the actual link. If you cite the primary source I'll believe you, but the official records I found indicate the opposite with 95% of rape victims being women. Considering the the Daily Mail has a long history of misconstruing facts I'm not going to believe their …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 01:58 AM
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I think there's some confusion here. The premise I'm challenging is that women aren't happy all the time. I think it's really more that when you're life gets easy enough you think manspreading is oppression and that the "problems" you face are real. You feel something but since you've never felt what someone outside the machine has felt, you mistake it for unhappiness. So you're in the machine but just with a different vocabulary than I have. If you stepped out of the machine for a day then you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 01:47 AM
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Sorry, can you please just quote the absolutist claim for me rather than speaking of it in the abstract? I've said multiple things and it's hard to tell which one you're discussing. The video was to establish a possible alternative explanation other than being full of shit, namely that of valuing the life one actually does live, for why TRPers wouldn't want to wave a magic wand and become women. Can you please just quote the relevant text?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 01:38 AM
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I guess in response to my question, you were saying it's easier to get a STEM job as a woman because more women go to college? So it's easier for me to get a job in STEM based on the fact I went to college alone? That's a huge part. Don't rule this out like it's nothing. That's actually absolutely enormous in every single way. It's practically unfathomable. You know there are 50% more women in college than men? Just consider what a big help you may have already gotten. It might already have lite…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 01:35 AM
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I do read a lot of philosophy including some logic so I'd be happy to show you some support for any kind of inference I made, but I'd need you to supply me a quote. A categorization like "weak evidence" that I myself wouldn't agree I used, especially considering how vague a reply that is, is kind of hard. If you get more specific though, I'll gladly help.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 01:32 AM
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Domestic violence? Swing and a miss. Rape Strike 2. Btw, men are sentenced 60% more than women for the same crime so if you take that number and multiply it by .6 just for the rape victims who 'don't deserve it' (some people I say this too rationalize it by saying the inmates are criminals) then it's still much higher for men. Being represented in government? And strike three but this one needs more explanation. First, it's not fair to say women aren't represented just because there are fewer wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 01:29 AM
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Not sure what you mean. You gave a logical principle and I'm asking for a citation to see if it's an actual principle that people knowledgeable about logic would back. I'm not saying that no position is defensible without first being reviewed by logicians but if you're speaking about how logic works then it'd be very nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 01:24 AM
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Both men and women have unique problems in society so playing this pity party game of "it's harder to be on my side!" is really pointless. Let's have one thread without any bullshit. There literally isn't one quantifiable way in which women are worse off that isn't silly horseshit like manspreading or catcalling, or issues not caused by sexism such as periods and pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 01:21 AM
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Okay, lemme try again. saying something is impossible is an absolutist argument and thus is not logical... unless you have overwhelming evidence which the evidence you presented hardly qualifies as. Can you cite any prominent logicians who hold this position?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 01:19 AM
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Imagine you haven't been born yet. You're just a soul without a body. Someone tells you that if you're a woman than you're way more likely to get into college (the difference is 50% more women) and thus eligible to try to get a STEM career. You're also shown some studies 1 of women in academia (because pragmatically speaking, that's the easiest demographic to test) are not discriminated against at all. You're also shown studies that your salary won't be any lower. Don't you think that'd influenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 01:18 AM
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Aside from the not so subtle insult and belittlement, what's your point here? I'm pointing out why you don't see the analogy to the experience machine. It's because you've never been out of the machine and had to struggle in the real world. My point was, if I switched to being a girl, I don't know if I'd be happy, even if things were objectively better for me. Being an unhappy spoiled brat still means you're unhappy. The only variable that really matters is happiness. It's like saying "If you co…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 01:14 AM
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For me, this doesn't compare to turning into a girl, because I don't know what it is actually like to be a girl as a girl. To be fair, you've (probably) never been a man so you've never really known hard work, real rejection, true stoicism, pain, or whatever. You've probably felt some kind of watered down counterpart but not the real thing. However, girls do not seem to be subjectively that happy about this fact. Therefore, it's a moot point. All that matters at the end of the day is your subjec…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 11:58 PM
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saying something is impossible is an absolutist argument and thus is not logical Can you cite any prominent logicians who hold this position?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 11:06 PM
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Well sue me for using a cell phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 11:05 PM
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There's nothing in modern life women don't get a better deal at, except getting a job in STEM fields. Still probably easier if your a woman. We've gotta account all the men who don't even make it into college due to their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 10:48 PM
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so red pillers that are poor want to stay poor? or red pillers that are ugly want to stay ugly? what about short red pillers, do you want to stay short? or depressed red pillers? I think this is a fundamentally different thing. These things aren't logically necessary to your identity. impossible sounds like an exaggeration. i'm willing to agree it's possible to conclude some trpers are not full of it because they don't want to be women (even though they argue women have it better). Not an exagge…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 10:47 PM
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How do you distinguish between 'true' rape accusations and ones where the plaintiff had a good lawyer?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 10:19 PM
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What is the advantage to this supposedly coveted victim status? As a gay guy, thus far all I can think of is some niche social groups, mostly online, will be more likely to take my opinion seriously when it comes to homophobia. People who know I'm gay in real life aren't any nicer to me. You got it wrong. You need both victim and victimizer status to make it work. You have two thing, gayness and maleness, working against you. You don't get anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 10:04 PM
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Why would being objectively awful be the only reason to protect your identity? Even MRAs who are pretty confident that they're doing the right thing don't want to be associated with it due to shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 04:49 AM
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Because whether or not we think we're doing anything wrong, it'd be stupid to say people in general don't think of us as doing something wrong and TRP is a stupid thing to stick your neck out for. After all, we're not a movement and we're not trying to change the world. We just want to live well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 04:47 AM
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It's a nice feel good truth. If you're a woman, just exist and you get wonderful prizes including all the money you need, respect from everyone, to fuck every guy you want without consequences, alimony, easy access into engineering or business schools, and all other shit. You also don't need to do housework, raise kids, accept blame for your actions, or have anyone think of you as weak. It's a pretty sweet deal really. Meanwhile if you're a man, you don't have to work out. You can feel like you'…
/r/askTRP18/02/15 10:51 PM
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-I already occasionally lurk on the roost v forum. I think you misunderstood my post, I agreed with you that I would get banned on r/feminism. TRP/the manosphere is definitely a circle jerk though, "community beliefs" are just the misogynistic version of a "safe space". TRP probably fits this. We're not interested in outside opinions, that's why I come here. In fact, people aren't even too concerned with truth in the "capital T" sense". It's just intersubjective agreement of likeminded men. If i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 09:07 PM
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Yes, I like responding. As a member of the manosphere, I like to engage with outsider. Ironic, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 08:53 PM
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How could anyone argue with you though? You're not especially susceptible. You: The manosphere will just ban you. Me: Here's a place where they won't. Go talk to them. You: No. Me: Okay well at least acknowledge that they won't ban you and are thus a counterexample. You: AVFM would ban me. Me: No they wouldn't. You: ... I mean seriously, how am I even supposed to respond to this? Your mind is made up without any desire to check the evidence or any skepticism about your own opinion. How the hell …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 08:24 PM
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No, they'd be fine keeping you around just like mensrights. How about you test these hypotheses of yours or shut the fuck up? Also, aren't you arguing with the manosphere right now on a sub that won't ban you for doing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 08:18 PM
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I'm sure they'd ban me because they're shitty circle jerks, just like the redpill reddit. But they're not. Go look at them before generalizing. This argument is circular as hell. You're concluding that the manosphere is a banning circlejerk based on the fact that they'd bad you and that they'd ban you based on the fact that they're a banning circlejerk. Either have no opinion or test it out. TRP is the exception here and /r/mensrights doesn't even like TRP. Too lazy to link right now but I remem…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 08:17 PM
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Are you trolling? Read the thing I specifically labelled as: "Not my point:" and then notice what I labelled it as.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 08:13 PM
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The Red Pill isn't an academic philosophy, so the lack of discussion on the nature of truth and knowledge shouldn't be surprising. Also, TRP isn't obligated to have any standards of truth or objectivity at all. As long as they are minding their own business, they shouldn't have to justify their beliefs to the rest of reddit. However, I'm still bringing this up because I find it a constant source of confusion between TRP and the rest of us. After we find out that TRP doesn't literally rape women …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 08:06 PM
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You're missing my point entirely. I'll state it very clearly: My point: If someone wanted to argue with the manosphere, there is plenty of place to do it. This is very much contrary to anything feminists offer. Whether or not you choose to do it, you ought to acknowledge that this speaks well about it that you could if you wanted to. Not my point: Go argue with the manosphere!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 08:01 PM
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So you're literally arguing against TRP by citing positions that aren't TRP? Why not just replace every TRP tactic then with, "have another holocaust except make it worse than Hitler's" ? I mean, if you're not going to pay attention to our methods then you might as well go all the way with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:48 PM
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That's fine but at least acknowledge it. There's literally one men's space on the whole internet that is as you describe and plenty of places, even in the manosphere, for you to argue. Now find me a feminist sub that does that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:41 PM
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First off let me say when I say I'm a feminist it just means I'm liberal on most social issues pertaining to women: abortion, the wage gap, LGBT rights, etc. I'm definitely not a fan of the SJW/Jezebel scene, I'm just pretty consistently liberal on "women's issues". So that means I find TRP ideology pretty fucked up. Not only is it misogynistic, it's pretty much misanthropic. I mean these guys hate everyone: women, non-"alpha" men, LGBT folks, liberals, conservatives, uppity minorities, etc etc …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:41 PM
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TRP is the exception, not the rule. Head on over to a sub like mensrights if you want to discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:36 PM
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It's not the blue pill. It's their red pill. Meh. We at least try to go for things that are true.
/r/TheRedPill17/02/15 05:30 AM
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feminists hate women’s sexuality even more than Conservative men do. And that's why they hate us. Think about it, feminist theory is almost 100% predicated on women having a nice responsible sexuality. If women want men to be nice to them, women want to take charge, women want that testosterone rush of competition in the workplace and to come home to a beta who worships them, then feminist theory would make so much sense. It would allow women to fight on even grounds with men, take up the scienc…
/r/TheRedPill16/02/15 01:34 AM
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It's not up to her to make you one unless you let her. An assertive man won't be a beta-orbiter and won't need to ask. However, if you need to know then here are some questions. 1) When you hang out, is it obviously a date? By obviously, I mean that NO ambiguity. Any form of "It's complicated" or "I wouldn't use that word directly to her, or if I did then I wouldn't be 100% confident she already knew" counts as a no. 2) Have you fucked her? If no/no then you're done. If yes/yes then you're good.…
/r/askTRP16/02/15 12:29 AM
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It's a fuzzy logic, and my axioms are paired with a probability of being correct rather than as an absolute which also trickles down to a level of uncertainty in my conclusions. A few issues. First, you've yet to define the parameters of your fuzzy logic. Which conclusions are excluded? Secondly, your usage of probability is nothing more than an excuse to beg the question. Let's consider two points of views, yours and God's. From your point of view, you've got a solid record of arriving to work …
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 10:38 PM
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Remember, they'll forget about this in a week. Use the time to speak up in class and assert yourself. They'll remember what you're like but nothing else. This is nothing but a billboard.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 09:45 PM
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1) It takes an hour minimum to travel to work in optimal conditions. 2) This morning I left 1.5 hours before I had to be at work. 3) This morning I was on time for work. 4) Therefore, had I left an hour later I would have been late for work (follows from 1 and 2). Stop, already went wrong. You're using axiomatic statements again which is fine for abstract cyberspace but doesn't work for the real world. Premise one can be rephrased as the conditional statement: "If I go to work, it takes at least…
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 09:19 PM
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That and I enjoy pedantic discussions about logic. In that case I'd like to make the pedantic point that you didn't show verification above. A proof is something that can just be done on paper like math. Verification is shown empirically. You didn't do anything resembling a verification above. "If I had left an hour later this morning I would have been late for work" which is a pretty damn verifiable logical sentence. How on Earth would you verify it? You can probably verify that tomorrow you wi…
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 08:04 PM
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You take a lot of words to say very very little. Who are you trying to impress? Any women who come across his reddit account. If there's no actual women doing it, he'll imagine some or at least boost his ego by imagining how proud they'd be if they knew but keeping it a secret because he's a genuinely good guy.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 06:41 PM
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Here, let me answer for him. Why are you here, again? Oh, well you see I've internalized this feminized society's message that anything masculine is bad. I've also read that you gentlemen will respect me just for my genitals so I came here and figured you'd instantly make me your leader and respect my viewpoint and figured I'd cash in for the sake of the womyn. Awkward run on sentence. Oh, and your gynocentrism is showing. Oh no, don't misunderstand me. You see, the theory I've read says that so…
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 06:40 PM
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I was eating some peanut butter when I made this account, but I might.
/r/askTRP15/02/15 02:56 PM
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The forum doesn't claim to be perfect. It's the imperfect substitute for the male role we never got to view growing up.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 02:55 PM
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This place actually has a lot to offer other than knowledge. Where else can men get together and discuss things that matter to men? I'm not referring to things like sharing our feelings like has been made permissible to feminism and like what you find on r/oney. I mean actually discussing masculinity and not censoring ourselves.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 05:04 AM
1

What happens if you use a word like Freudian to describe different fields of feminism that are more essentialist, psychoanalytic, and mutually exclusive with Marx?
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 05:00 AM
1

Feminist theory was created by dope smoking hippy anarchists copying Lenin's writings on the family. In the early 1900's, Lenin modified Marx's writings (from the 1880's) on economics and applied them to the family. A lot of feminist writing isn't Marxist and I don't know of any evidence that Marx was a potsmoker or a hippie. I'm the last person to defend feminism but at least get it right. Whether they are pot smoking anarchists or cunning polemicists, they are devious and each and every one of…
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 03:58 AM
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I'm done. This is hopeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 03:56 AM
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I don't care for them. Some of it seems like common sense, some of it seems probably true but too far from my personality to instill while not necessary enough to make the adjustment for, and some of it seems not really useful.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 03:46 AM
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I just didn't get why he grouped it together with everything else rather than creating a clear separation between feminism and the green movement. Remember that thing I said about a clumsy copy/paste? Well try to remember, it's kind of important. I'm not about to assume an opinion someone expresses is a mistake, which is why I fucking asked the question. Well from time to time you might want to consider it. Staying faithful to a mistyped thought is just bad as strawmanning via making arguments t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 03:42 AM
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Monk mode is really only for absolute fuck ups. If you're a complete omega who's spent the past five years playing WoW and have literally no stories that don't involve fictional swords and you make an idiot of yourself like that then go into monk mode, read, exercise, and do what you've gotta do. If you're just low SMV and want to practice then don't worry about it and do shit. I just swallowed the pill. Rather than being too fat, I'm too skinny. It doesn't work well. I look good in clothes but …
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 03:39 AM
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"Your purse would look better with a peace sign." Great post but I could never say this with a straight face.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 03:23 AM
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He means that feminism is a movement dedicated to improving the lives of women no matter the cost to others. There's an implication that he believes feminism has a cost on others such as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 02:57 AM
1

And that is why no one will remember your name. No, it's not. The reason no one will remember my name is because people who if they work as hard as possible every single day of their lives and waste absolutely no time will become special are at best 1% and those who actually get special are at best one in a thousand. You're probably not special. This is the red pill. It's seeing reality for what it is and then adapting to be the best you possible and being happy. It's not a different feel good t…
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 02:29 AM
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I'm actually not doing that. I'm using specifically the example you gave. If you gave me the example of your favorite professor or something than sure, aim high. If you're aiming at Arnie though, then just accept that you won't beat the guy. He might be an ideal to structure your life with the assistance of, to emulate in certain practical ideals, and so on but to actually think you'll beat him is ridiculous. And yes, I do think you (or at least most) would stop trying. Aiming for Arnie is not e…
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 01:55 AM
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Look buddy, that's the game. Either adapt or quit and never get laid. TRP isn't about changing it. It's about learning it. Sorry if you're frustrated but just try to learn.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 01:42 AM
1

So how close are you to beating Arnie?
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 01:30 AM
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You don't get it. You're talking specifically about someone who's basically an archetype. You're conflating passable mentor and Arnie and then when I say something about Arnie, you comment that it doesn't apply to the passable mentor. Makes no sense.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 12:29 AM
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Quit bullshitting. You knew what he meant. The copypaste was just a bit clumsy. Why not respond to the actual meaning?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 11:35 PM
0

There's already an opportunity. All of his stats and records are posted. Quick, compare your stats before you lose your gains! We're you close? No? Then shut up and quit talking big.
/r/TheRedPill14/02/15 11:12 PM
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It'd be nice to see but ultimately I don't really care.
/r/askTRP14/02/15 10:27 PM
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Did anyone expect Dr. Phil to be TRP?
/r/TheRedPill14/02/15 10:09 PM
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Sounds good but means nothing. Maybe if you're going to be some mythical man then go ahead but if you're happy to strive just for success, sex, happiness, status, and so on then you need something to emulate or else you're just reinventing the wheel.
/r/TheRedPill14/02/15 09:58 PM
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universal truth of AWALT This phrase makes me laugh.
/r/TheRedPill14/02/15 09:52 PM
1

Yeah, but if you give corporations too much slack they will have no issue driving the rest of the country into poverty while their profits continue to rise. I have a good education and don't plan on having kids. I don't care if the rest of the country goes into poverty and have no stake in the future.
/r/askTRP14/02/15 09:50 PM
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I think pushing the Democrats to the right too much would seriously give up ownership of the country to corporations. Good. Corporations want workers. It means they'll want a critical mass of people who can work, at least until India and China get their education systems good enough to compete with the elite US citizens. Corporations also have serious financial incentives not to give into feminism, even if they kind of do. They haven't given in as much as other organizations such as schools have…
/r/askTRP14/02/15 09:13 PM
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Maybe but I do believe that you can push the nation to the left or to the right by voting. I feel almost like there's an abstraction of each party existing independently of policies and candidates and we vote for that.
/r/askTRP14/02/15 09:01 PM
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First, check the edit. Two seconds ago I just put important info in there. Second, talk about the perks she might get out of flirting with him back. Encourage her to go after those perks, whatever they may be. If there are no perks, bring up the fact that there are no perks so that you can make fun of him. And then encourage it some more. If there are no perks then say that at the very least, it might be amusing.
/r/askTRP14/02/15 09:00 PM
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I hate them both. The democrats are better with principles of equality and helping the poor but they're corrupted by feminists and SJWs. The Republicans are better with individual rights and not man-hating but they're corrupted by the religious, corporations, and racists and homophobes. I'm gonna vote Republican in 2016 just in order to try and push the democrats to the right. Or maybe I won't vote.
/r/askTRP14/02/15 08:56 PM
1

Here you go.
/r/askTRP14/02/15 08:54 PM
1

You did well. I prefer one liners though since there's a bit of luck involved in whether or not your LTR would set herself up like that. I would have replied, "Well since they have it, it'd be difficult to see what the world would be like if they didn't." I'm in a different position because philosophy is one of my interests and I probably would have already explained how necessity and counterfactual are such that she'd get the joke. I'd stick to the idea of one liners though for all shit tests. …
/r/askTRP14/02/15 08:49 PM
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-F.O.R.D (good things to talk about) -Family, Occupation, Recreation and Dreams -R.A.P.E (would not recommend using these as talking points) -Religion, Abortion, Politics and Economics If these weren't famous acronyms then I'd have no idea what the hell he was talking about.
/r/TheRedPill14/02/15 08:27 PM
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If I can construct a proof of the counterfactual, then it is verifiable. For instance: In the space of abstract logical entities then sure you can do anything but there's no way to translate it into the real world. For any actual historical instance or current actuality, you can never say "Had X happened instead, then this would follow."
/r/TheRedPill14/02/15 08:22 PM
1

I know she had one but I'm not sure what about it is relevant.
/r/TheRedPill14/02/15 06:48 AM
1

Yeah, but it is interesting to consider the effects of each.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 04:09 AM
2

The concept as utilized by contemporary feminist theorists which trickles down to tumblr/Jezebel was first formulated by a theorist named Simone de Beauvoir. Nuggets of the theory do exist from the women who were precursors to feminists and goes back to the colonial era, but the centralizing and robust formulation of it comes from Simone. She wrote about it in her book The Second Sex which is basically responsible for feminism as we know it. She was big on Marxism but not on anarchism and I don'…
/r/TheRedPill14/02/15 01:23 AM
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an unfalsifiable theory created by pot-smoking couch anarchists This isn't actually historically accurate. I'm all about bashing it as the worst idea ever but I like to stay accurate when I do.
/r/TheRedPill14/02/15 01:15 AM
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I'm not about controlling women. It's not my goal, my actions don't support it, and I do nothing to stop women from seeing other men. If I met a polygamous woman who wanted me to be part of her polygamous relationship, I'd consider her a plate and nothing more while not really understanding the SJW language there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 11:47 PM
1

Exercise groups do that, are they a movement?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 11:44 PM
1

What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 11:30 PM
4

A codified lifestyle isn't a movement. For instance, hasidic judaism is a very codified lifestyle, much more than TRP and they're so not a movement that they make it damn near impossible to join them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 10:54 PM
1

I overcame depression too. I also did it without drugs or therapy. Doesn't change the fact that it's a real illness with real cures. Tell me though, what do you think the difference between depression and a 'real illness' is? Physical symptoms, phenomenal symptoms? Depressions tot all that shit.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/15 10:31 PM
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TRP isn't a movement though. It's a phenomenon that accidentally became political.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 10:29 PM
1

Feminism is a feel good message. Feel good messages appeal to the masses. However, they only work for women. Women have everything handed to them as the dominant class in society, men do not. Thus, the feel good message keeps women happy while they are fed and it keeps men too passive and useless to react.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 08:54 PM
0

I believe there's a good antifeminist argument to make, MRAs give it a good shot but ultimately only TRP has the balls to make it. For that, were rewarded with explosive growth. Sex is inherently political.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 08:52 PM
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I believe there's a good antifeminist argument to make, MRAs give it a good shot but ultimately only TRP has the balls to make it. For that, were rewarded with explosive growth. Sex is inherently political.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 08:51 PM
1

Being BP for so long is my fault but only because the buck stops with me. I am not the one who set the context of my life since infancy such that it seemed like a reasonable inference that BP was the answer. Making a deduction off of your surroundings is not stupidity. However, now I'm off on my own with different context so I made a better inference, because the buck had to stop and I had to stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 08:50 PM
1

What you've just written is the red pill version of a feel good truth that doesn't solve the problem but makes you feel warm and fuzzy. As someone who used to work at a suicide hotline, there's a lot of good science of how to understand and help suicide victims. In terms of understanding them, they're going through a legitimate illness with real cures. In terms of handling thwm, a good and charismatic shrink curing a suicidal is is like a muscular and wealthy alpha trying to nail a chick. They'r…
/r/TheRedPill13/02/15 07:49 PM
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I didn't use gendered terms. Feminists aren't all women.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/15 02:11 PM
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Take it one step further and realize that you DO already know her. Women generally work the same way and TRP tells you what that way is. Nothing to pretend.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/15 07:24 AM
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The problem however, is that what these women refer to as strength and confidence is usually just arrogance and selfishness in disguise. It's actually more than that. Feminists have been telling women for decades that they'd be scientists, world leaders, astronauts, and so on if the patriarchy weren't keeping them down. As result, these feminists don't really try. They do their women's studies major or english or sociology, or whatever else doesn't matter, and then bitch about the patriarchy. Yo…
/r/TheRedPill13/02/15 06:52 AM
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-Women tend to gravitate towards helping professions, specifically things like service to people who are living in extreme poverty/homelessness (a majority male population); social workers are something like 80% female Doesn't count for anything. That's all nurturing, not empathy. Empathy is seeing you as an equal eye to eye with your problems to lend support. Nurturing is looking down on the poor lost kitten. -Research consistently shows women to be equal (or superior, depending on the study) t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 04:11 AM
1

Many jadeds get upset about how it's repetitive or no longer fun once mastered.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 11:01 PM
1

That's fundamentally misunderstanding the red pill. TRP is not a shoot for high SMV. That's something that comes as the probable but contingent consequence of handling the real world. The jaded part comes from seeing that the real world and the SMP aren't as happy as our feminized culture tells us. And that is good reason to be jaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:18 PM
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Okay, but she made it a reasonable thing for him to do.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/15 03:59 PM
1

That's not a paradox. That's straight forward. Many TRPers don't want to be TRPers. They grew up beta and thought that seemed like an honorable, desirable, and honest way to date. They spent years or even decades comitting to this and then learn they've been lied to. The men are almost universally willing to do this but the women make it impossible. So, we adapt stoically and become the men who can be successful, but we kind of dislike it. In fact, many TRPers consider "jaded" to be the sixth st…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 03:52 PM
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Feminists hate him! Well, they do...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 04:42 AM
10

Also a nice dose of high-n-mighty for those who feel like a "sexual underclass." TRP isn't a dose of high and mighty. As a new subscriber, I get none of it. In fact, I need to own up to my faults and properly identify my still low SMV. What TRP offers is an explanation for why your life is a certain way and advice on how to make that explanation no longer apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 04:42 AM
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Thank you, I appreciate all the help today.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/15 09:14 PM
2

That makes a lot of sense, just like women do get something out of sex, men do get something out of commitment. Being all alpha all the time is probably exhausting and difficult when doing it alone. Do you know of any good reads on that balance? It seems easy to fuck it up. Without any knowledge, my hypothesis would be that women would still be doing shit tests and other manipulative shit in a LTR to challenge you, except now you've got a much more difficult tight-rope to walk.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/15 07:09 PM
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I don't think a source is needed It is if you want to say it's proven. Saying this is your theory is another story but saying it's proven, that needs a source.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/15 07:03 PM
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Can you cite a source on that?
/r/TheRedPill11/02/15 05:20 PM
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What's the relationship between TRP and LTR? My current understanding is that there's a sort of competition between women and men where he tries to grab sex and she tries to grab commitment. She loses if she gives up sex without receiving commitment because then she's only a slut. Getting the valuable thing she has to offer is not easy so she must not be valuable. If he gives up his commitment without getting sex then he's a beta orbiter giving up what's behind his gate for free. But in this thr…
/r/TheRedPill11/02/15 04:11 PM
2

Again, I'm very new to TRP. I'll specifically answer what I do but I won't comment on it's relationship between what you should do, the ideal, or anything else. Around here I see a lot if people go for agreeing and amplifying but it doesn't work for me. I'm not TRP endorsed, I'm not jacked, and I'm new to game. I need to fight to be taken seriously. I believe that agreeing and amplifying would for me only serve to validate what she says and even reward her socially, as assistant comedian, for sh…
/r/TheRedPill11/02/15 03:53 PM
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Frankly its not a great market, because as OP noted it's filled with single mothers and aging harpies who didn't have the good sense and upbringing to marry a good man during their peak years. I'm not old enough to experience this market at all but why's it bad? A lot of the 28+ women I see still look pretty attractive. I'd think that their being desperate would just make them sexually available and there'd be shit loads of sex. What happens at that age? Am I the only one who still finds them at…
/r/TheRedPill11/02/15 03:34 AM
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Preface: Still new to TRP but I've done a lot of reading. There's a group here that seems to think if you become alpha enough, if you learn how to be incredibly assertive and decisive that a woman will revert to her innate female submissive nature. This has not been my interpretation of TRP. My interpretation has been that women are already submissive always. The question is not how you turn her submissive but rather how to make her submissive to you personally and not to someone else. Her game …
/r/TheRedPill11/02/15 01:05 AM
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Preface: Still a TRP Padawan. "I'm tired of girls only on here looking for a quick hookup. I'm here to meet someone special. If you are just looking for some hookup, please swipe left.. I'm a strong, independent, gentleman who has self respect and am looking to meet someone special." I think your causation might be wrong here. I don't think it's the strategy, you must either be very good looking or have your BMW in the background. Here's my understanding of TRP, please someone correct me if I've…
/r/TheRedPill11/02/15 12:49 AM
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Definitely been the case with me. The word "shit test" has changed my life. Now, I've only been actively trying TRP for two weeks after reading everything I could find to read, but it's really an eye opener. At first I heard it and didn't think such a thing really even happened but now I just see it everywhere. Every time a woman says something not nice, disagrees with me about something other than ice cream flavors, tries to bring up her area of expertise that I don't know shit about, I just se…
/r/TheRedPill11/02/15 12:37 AM
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Preface: I'm still a RP padawan. However, I'm pretty knowledgeable about the philosophy of language and this is incredibly in line with many well known academic viewpoints. Philosophers have always asked about the relationship between language, meaning, and the conceptualization about our world. Socrates famously showed that many words everyone uses (justice, friendship, knowledge, etc) have completely unknowable definitions. Of course, you can give one but it won't hold to scrutiny. The philoso…
/r/TheRedPill11/02/15 12:14 AM
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I didn't read it literally. You responded to: "pretending not to care is an intensely difficult thing to do for those that care the most." Presumably, you meant that you don't advocate wishing that you actually don't care but rather that you have the strength to pretend. I contention is that it requires no strength. You just need to authentically not care and the way to authentically not care is to see what TRP's been saying all along. Individual women do not matter even if you can care about wo…
/r/TheRedPill10/02/15 04:07 AM
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Doesn't take broader shoulders in this case. It's just got to be the right kind of indifference. Seeing women as a dime a dozen, and I mean actually seeing them that way without any self deception, allows you not to care about any particular women even if in the abstract you're busting your ass at work and the gym for them.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/15 03:35 AM
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