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| 0 | Question 4 Women: Has PPD and TRP made you less trustful of men or dislike them?Come up with better lines apparently….. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/23 11:04 PM |
| -2 | Question 4 Women: Has PPD and TRP made you less trustful of men or dislike them?I find it humorous that this implies either that I’m wrong or you don’t care yet would if it was misogyny. I’m finished bruh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/23 10:45 PM |
| -2 | Question 4 Women: Has PPD and TRP made you less trustful of men or dislike them?You’re a misandrist. Didn’t the sarcasm make that obvious. I thought that’s what /s meant. Huh. Anyway yh you’re misandrist for that line of logic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/23 10:31 PM |
| 5 | What would a Red Pill alternative from a leftist perspective look like?The best take I’ve seen to answer this question honestly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/23 10:04 PM |
| -3 | Question 4 Women: Has PPD and TRP made you less trustful of men or dislike them?Misandry is super based guys /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/23 09:59 PM |
| 7 | Red Pill is a Cult that is brainwashing young men to be misogynist.Okay but the difference in something like that is atheists have to know an innate understanding at the very least enough to convey they understand Christian’s. To even debunk Christian’s to moderates. Again I’m a good example of this. Literally agree with you on the red pill grift element and pipeline to misogyny yet I understand why and what social/cultural observations of which are real lead down to a path of self hatred and misogyny. You refuse to acknowledge any point no matter how true to r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/23 07:40 PM |
| 6 | Red Pill is a Cult that is brainwashing young men to be misogynist.Let me ask you a question. What’s the point of these posts? You don’t take in any information or alternate points of understanding from the men here red pulled or otherwise and continue to try and repost the same narrative that isn’t convincing and at times misandrist. If you were really interested in good faith discourse instead of recapitulating the same narrative. You’d see a difference but it’s literally the same. Red pill is a grift and men who aren’t having sex/relationships with women are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/23 07:20 PM |
| 3 | We need to start teaching young men a philosophy of "persistence" instead of "success", this would drive a lot of young men less crazy and actually show them the very important of patienceI’d say it’s a healthy mix of self acceptance/love, self awareness. And persistence/perseverance | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/23 12:11 PM |
| 1 | The Red Pill Rage LoopThat’s half of it yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/23 12:07 PM |
| 1 | The Red Pill Rage LoopCase and point. You’re arguing from experience and just denying their reality as bullshit rather than them taking their trauma the wrong way | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/23 12:06 PM |
| 2 | The Red Pill Rage LoopThis is basically the equivalent of answering the question correctly but not understanding the question itself and doing your work. That metaphor sounds screwy as hell but what I’m saying is. Not bad advice. Not gonna help most men here by not looking at the problem in terms of the experiences being reflected. Not red pilled minded myself I think it’s a grift but these answers always fall short at taking into account said experiences properly. Like this super abstract “take a step back” analysis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/23 11:14 AM |
| 2 | Q4Women and for Blue pill. What do many or most women need to improve or fix about themselves?Completely agreed. And u especially hit a good point about the race aspect there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/23 07:46 AM |
| 0 | Honest and genuine question. What is it that women actually want?No just work on reading comprehension since one and actually now many others understand. Again. Sounds like a personal problem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/23 07:17 AM |
| 1 | Honest and genuine question. What is it that women actually want?I think the issue here maybe that you personally don’t know or haven’t observed how these conversations go down here. They’re often use to dismiss experiences men go through as less important since they’re the inherent exception to the rule. That’s why I’m saying it’s likely to be dismissed here and in general just to a less direct sense. This is how these experiences are talked about and maybe not you exactly, but women do tend to do this when discussing why guys have problems dating. “I’m an i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/23 07:17 AM |
| 1 | Honest and genuine question. What is it that women actually want?Thanks bro. Like I really hate how ironically. This is a general trend I’m seeing with women. Especially here. It sucks especially since it will only cause ppl to treat them in generalities since it’s obvious that their testimony, so to speak, isn’t accurately talked about in conjunction to wider reality. Gender norms exist and whether they like it or not. It intersects into other things and isn’t just. Women are individuals and you only chose the wrong ones. Definitely got wilfully obtuse vybes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/23 07:11 AM |
| 6 | Average men gain nothing from being sex positive and against purity culture.Yh I’m really starting to be sceptical toward traditional in this context of saying not meaning anything than just “back in the day shit was easier as it was expected, so my problems will be solved regardless of the other shit that will be objectively worse because of it” I can respect traditionalism and a person or partners choice to engage in it if both are autonomous or free to do so. Shouldn’t get judgement tradwife and tradbros. Wishing y’all well. But I only ever hear to return back to it.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 03:40 PM |
| 1 | Honest and genuine question. What is it that women actually want?Dude all I’m saying is. Say women are individuals but don’t use it to dismiss when ppl say that’s a unique experience and not a trend. Every one of those examples are valid yet broadly speaking are different in relation and as such should be recognised. Why is this so hard to understand. Most ppl for example enjoy sports. I’m generally not a fan. Yet I can’t use that experience to say that sports are dumb and nobody likes them. Even if there were like 3 or 5 hundred ppl like me. It’s not a justi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 03:36 PM |
| 0 | Honest and genuine question. What is it that women actually want?So u. Unlike the many others who could understand what I’m saying. Magically don’t. Sounds like a personal problem, the guy literally below me understood and re explained so…🤷🏾♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 03:21 PM |
| 1 | Honest and genuine question. What is it that women actually want?Exactly. Though I fear you will be not understood aswell lool since we basically are saying the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 03:21 PM |
| 14 | Average men gain nothing from being sex positive and against purity culture.Exactly. This take (OP) just screams of “let’s go back to the good ol days, since my experiences are shitty right now therefore everyone else is suffering”. Everything you’ve said here detriments men if not allowed to be open. So this is really a complaint of control rather than sex positivity being bad for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 11:14 AM |
| 0 | Honest and genuine question. What is it that women actually want?Ironically this is literally a thought terminating cliche. As the OPs gender. If you’re referring to me, I’m a dude btw, has nothing to do with what he said about generalities. It’s a non response | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 07:36 AM |
| 0 | Honest and genuine question. What is it that women actually want?Okay yh it’s pretty clear u didn’t get what I said lmao. Literally nothing to do with what I said to the point where I have to wonder if it’s intentional. All I’m really saying is that all ppl are individuals. Yet also act in trends of which when women (men too but to be relevant) deny and use their experience to undermine others of which show what women act like in said trends towards let’s say. Short guys. Or men in general really isn’t enough to be meaningful at all. It’s useless. And whilst … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 07:31 AM |
| 1 | Honest and genuine question. What is it that women actually want?I would refer you back to my original response. Again. I began with saying that I don’t like the inherent cope and fatalism through perpetual victimhood the more common and socially disconnected men here use to never be consistent or accept reality on their end. Especially that last point since I did go on earlier to say that men do this to ok this sub to find any excuse in the world to justify their pessimism. But again these aren’t the representative of the issue and why I’m saying it’s dismis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 05:11 PM |
| 3 | Honest and genuine question. What is it that women actually want?The problem is the wider context. Women will represent themselves as individuals and when these trends are mentioned, use their singular experiences as a norm by rejecting the experiences of others as not valid. You’re experiences and tbh mine are contrary to the perspectives the male and more incel/pill minded suggest like height or individual variation past extremes being more acceptable. But I can at least understand and see the reality i oh f which their living. There’s not a denial due to a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 03:33 PM |
| 1 | Do you really struggle with dating and what is your relationship status?Bros going through his whole character arc in real time. Seems the sea rocks easy for you for now brother. And I hope it bears itself fruitful for longer. Gotta respect the ebbs and flows. Kind of the archetypical dating average here I actually assume for most guys and gals who got their shit together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 06:50 AM |
| 0 | Honest and genuine question. What is it that women actually want?Agreed. No lies here though I do think this is a problem when they define standards for the rest of us. And it becomes this gender war fuckery of resentment and denial on both ends since they’re not getting what they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 05:43 AM |
| 14 | Honest and genuine question. What is it that women actually want?True but not useful. This is basically the reason for all this turmoil. Women are individuals fundamentally like all ppl. But this is meaningless when like most individuals. They generalise toward certain trends and can’t be honest about it without denying or going to true but non answers like this. Like for example. These guys will get frustrated at not getting a chance to talk to a woman since they’re short. Then u get the “women are individuals” take that really amounts to nothing and default… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 05:11 AM |
| 6 | People on this sub over exaggerate height too much CMVU need to talk to the men in your life more frankly. And again. It’s not gonna be mentally and emotionally starved loners on Reddit that works best in seeing the reality of the situation. They more than likely have conversations relating to this. That are likely less explicitly said than online (regardless of opinion or pilled or whatever) like it is here. But they probably don’t mention it to you or ladies often due to the denial tactic. I’ve been in. And heard a lot of these conversations myse… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 02:57 AM |
| 6 | People on this sub over exaggerate height too much CMVWell I’m thinking more so past this sub and real life or even just the wider internet too loool. The trust and dismissing whether right or wrong, comes from a place of ignorance toward the experiences in the issue. Or at the very least not representing it properly. It feels like lying for the sake of bias. So if this demographic is “making up reality” they can honestly say the same for your perspectives equaling the majority. It’s giving “I’ve never been hungry since I’m rich so I can’t understa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 02:45 AM |
| 7 | People on this sub over exaggerate height too much CMVI say this as someone literally agreeing with the Op and has experience specifically in being short and in this regard being an exception to red pill logic. I understand why they dismissed you. Since honestly women aren’t honest or good at giving a good representation of the experience most short guys face with women without a denial of reality. Like “oh women and ppl are individuals, your choosing insecure toxic ppl”. Like yes. No shit. But if most short guys are telling u most of the women and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 02:19 AM |
| 1 | Benevolent sexism is underreportedLiterally the most banal take “ARe u OP’s BurnER”… but sure okay. This is all in bad faith and addressed in the previous response I made above. The onus is literally just the burden of proof of which I’ve even lowered for you by just asking for a more meaningful non logically deficient analysis in your response. If your counter to that is seriously just prove it back. After reading everything I’ve just said, ignoring the fact that I didn’t even say I agreed with OP. I only took issue with your l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 01:46 AM |
| 0 | How are short man supposed to date?Don’t forget good ol resentment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 01:03 AM |
| 1 | Benevolent sexism is underreportedOkay I know you’re trying to say anecdote and I won’t take u in bad faith, just letting u know to avoid confusion. But A) he didn’t but the point is U couldn’t. Since U were making the claim. Now u can argue he didn’t too and that’s fair but it’s pretty easily done. I mean. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect a quick google can find evidence of the women are wonderful effect for example. U didn’t do any of that nor provide substantial enough logic to even trust ur claims i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 01:00 AM |
| 1 | Benevolent sexism is underreportedI genuinely can’t understand what you’re trying to say here. What persona? But yes. Idk y that’s a problem. If you’re making a claim and only use personal experience but no evidence or even logic past your experiences. It sounds meaningless and bitter. I literally negated everything you said by accurately pointing out that you didn’t say anything past your personal experience, strawmen and a vague point at the end about nature. Of which the latter was the only real point you had about the topic … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 12:40 AM |
| 1 | Benevolent sexism is underreportedMa’am your entire response was just your projected resentment. Ah yes. Because u had a bias for ur father. Means that OPs entire post is wrong plus that end part makes strawmen of all ages and sizes agree has too much straw in said argument. Literally the only thing of useful discussion is the last line of nature and it wasn’t even explained. So yh just reads as bitter can’t lie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 12:31 AM |
| 0 | How are short man supposed to date?Yep. Not to be that guy. But. It worked for me even acknowledging all of this beforehand. Self confidence. Awareness and social adaptability helps too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 06:31 AM |
| 4 | How are short man supposed to date?Taking good advice that accepts = being blind to reality. Make it make sense man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 06:29 AM |
| 4 | How are short man supposed to date?You seriously can’t take parallels from fiction and apply the observably realistic and helpful advice of accepting one’s insecurities they can’t control. That’s stupid if something is right who cares where it’s from. So what you’d reject the advice of not drinking water because u heard it on Dora or something… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 06:28 AM |
| 3 | How are short man supposed to date?Bruh he had rizz and literally only got cucked because he was on trial like what. Plus he got his get back anyways lmaoo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 05:45 AM |
| 9 | How are short man supposed to date?This is the way. Tyrion Lannister it and you’ll succeed. “Never forget what you are, the rest of the world will not , wear it like armour and it can never be used against u” Genuinely helped me through this in my life and succeeded since the confidence and ability to learn through other hobbies and skills a proper foundation for who you are is amplified with that confidence which women will be attracted too. Or if your red pilled minded. It’ll help replicate chad status even if not immediately a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 05:19 AM |
| 3 | Young men will always follow people like Andrew Tate and those like him so long as women discriminate based on things men can’t control more than things they canWhy not both. You’re both right | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 04:59 PM |
| 3 | Society handicaps men where women are trained to be independent.Nw! Glad to see good faith ppl here and I hope u enjoy the insight as unfortunately kind of true to the points mentioned up in my list. It isn’t taken seriously | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 10:35 AM |
| 3 | Society handicaps men where women are trained to be independent.A) being taken seriously in terms of emotional needs and ability to “maintain strength” by being stoic. Mental health is trivialised constantly under the make experience by every part of society whereas women can have their insecurities and mental health validated. Women are allowed to have sympathy for and freedom to express this without judgement. Yes society trivialises womens mental health too. But it’s less accepted. It’s cool to make fun of a guy for having a small dick or height or things… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 10:16 AM |
| 3 | Guys. Would you date someone who is boring, timid, and not funny? Ladies, how about you?U like putting fish sticks in your mouth genius? No but how are u so sure of this past assuming women are just less intelligent. If it’s just your experiences with then fair enough. But you’d write them off entirely in that way. Does seem genuinely misogynistic. Not the ppd woman “ I’m offended that I can’t deny reality and make myself the victim since I take offense” sort of misogyny. Like deadass misogyny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 08:34 AM |
| 2 | Society handicaps men where women are trained to be independent.A) women do this too and society is more lenient at the expense of men. Such as with DV and rape. Trivialising male victims for the sake of more sympathy in their end B) they’re talking about the societal reaction to them opening said feelings. They say that it’s feminine because women are openly accepted being free and emotionally fluid whereas for men. Slightly more variation in emotional expression and trauma being accepted in more fashion is a very modern cultural development. Why would thes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 04:05 AM |
| 3 | Society handicaps men where women are trained to be independent.You’re inconsistent biases are showing. Again confirming my theory that your clear disdain of those perpetuating the offence is blinding you from realising why these takes don’t appropriately address the issue. It’s misandrist to expect gender roles to deconstruct only tot the benefit of women and not holding the women not doing so accountable in this equation. Do you care about solving this problem. Or just want to preach to those who disagree with u how patriarchy hurts them for the millionth … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 03:53 AM |
| 1 | Young men should gravitate to aba and preach/Destiny if they are so desperate for a father figure online.Child marriages to fully grown adults are not a timeless staple or a perfect standard for humanity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/23 10:18 AM |
| 2 | Young men should gravitate to aba and preach/Destiny if they are so desperate for a father figure online.Ok…Most ppl are followers. This doesn’t mean anything. It’s just you being mad that the situation is how it is. U can’t fix the problem by showing us destiny and aba and preach as cure-alls when they’re not. If most men are followers. And giving them role models that aren’t going to be listened to or even were supposed to be/wanted to in said fashion. Is just setting these men up to fail in parasocial dynamics that don’t benefit them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 07:22 PM |
| 1 | Young men should gravitate to aba and preach/Destiny if they are so desperate for a father figure online.It’s not my fault your answers are non answers. Like your complaining about ppl not listening to those they respect which is true. Like 2+2=5 even if hitler says it. But if anything UR maintaining the status quo by not actually giving advice or avenues to solve the problem past stereotypes. Look. These boys and Men aren’t going to listen to ppl they see as cucks. And basing your opinion on the extreme who genuine or care about that stuff past just receiving the information ain’t some ancient sop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 07:13 PM |
| 2 | Young men should gravitate to aba and preach/Destiny if they are so desperate for a father figure online.Those older men likely have seen return investment when it comes to not mentioning these wants and needs. They kind of just dealt with them in reality since society would reward them in other means. Remember. Society informing cultural desires entailed toward the genders like high value women and men. Only comes as a reaction to the social situation that initiate it. So however true or false a community views societal trends and the problems associated with them. Their condition and aspirations … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 06:28 PM |
| 0 | Young men should gravitate to aba and preach/Destiny if they are so desperate for a father figure online.Just a top basing your opinion and audience off of obvious stereotypes and extremes like this guy. Also most men won’t accept or respect polyamory and u can’t force that so said role models would need to emulate characteristics of respect men can relate to. Even though this guy like I said doesn’t represent the issue properly, he’s talking to an issue aswell from these choices. Do your choices provide examples of men or ppl in general that can represent and provide an ideal for the male experien… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 06:16 PM |
| 2 | Young men should gravitate to aba and preach/Destiny if they are so desperate for a father figure online.Agreed. Also historical figures in general don’t tend to hold up. Doubly so for religious figures. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 06:11 PM |
| 3 | Young men should gravitate to aba and preach/Destiny if they are so desperate for a father figure online.Except aba and preach have explicitly stated that they shouldn’t be looked to as a source of wisdom. I remember vividly one of the jokes being “n*gga go see a therapist”. They like destiny have decent takes but forming parasocial relationships with regular ppl commenting on sociopolitical issues outside of the extremes of the manosphere content. Along with the aformentioned fact that they themselves don’t want to be responsible for that dynamic. This reads and feels like someone trying to find s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 06:10 PM |
| 7 | Who should men be listening to? For advice, direction, understanding.Should’ve told that to these men and also the women actively denying reality or giving this bad advice then, huh? Would’ve prevented a whole lot of sexism. Also most ppl aren’t naturally sexist. So saying “don’t be sexist” is like saying “aww jeez fellas. Don’t be evil. Be good! Then life will be perfect”. The evil or sexist ppl. Won’t care or listen so this advice is just a vague aphorism designed to feel like it’s solving the problem by involving equality ethics. When in reality it’s not. It’s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 09:40 AM |
| 0 | I keep seeing " I want a traditional woman like the 1950s" when they were economic slaves. Women were dependent on the men financially, couldnt unilaterally divorce until Reagen no fault divorce,no birth control and average age women married was at 20.So…. U don’t believe in consent? This response is weird since ur appealing to the rights fought by ppl like they weren’t fought to be made sustainable and unchanging? Like this is the equivalent of saying because x amount of ppl fought for this thing and it’s normalised now, doesn’t mean it can’t change. Which isn’t wrong. What’s wrong is assuming that to be the case by simply following through in what the movement advocated for. Again women having the “choice” is most important. And has been cu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 09:35 AM |
| 16 | Who should men be listening to? For advice, direction, understanding.They asked women. They gave them bad answers that didn’t help or represent reality. That turned them bitter to them assume most women are like this. And since nobody addresses it without defaulting to sexism. Women generally still act in contrary to what the advice they say works, should work. So they stopped asking. And stopped listening. That’s the honest reason why past agendas | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 09:07 AM |
| 2 | I keep seeing " I want a traditional woman like the 1950s" when they were economic slaves. Women were dependent on the men financially, couldnt unilaterally divorce until Reagen no fault divorce,no birth control and average age women married was at 20.Yeppers. Also less money and time means less patience so it’s easier to generalise ppl and view them as a role within society of which u react to. Meaning the other choices ppl are also free to make, impact u more personally since u start to view ur lack of freedom with society propping up others as a trade off. And since apparently I speak Martian to ppl on Reddit who misunderstand or fail to understand what I’m saying even if it’s obvious. Tell me where u didn’t understand what I said. I’m jus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 09:04 AM |
| 2 | I keep seeing " I want a traditional woman like the 1950s" when they were economic slaves. Women were dependent on the men financially, couldnt unilaterally divorce until Reagen no fault divorce,no birth control and average age women married was at 20.Ultimately if you believe in autonomy and everyone involved is fairly critiqued about it but free to consensually interact with each other. U can’t really determine what should or shouldn’t be normalised without being biased can you. I agree with u btw but not allowing that choice and belittling the explanation to be just “muh ur describing a child’s role in a relationship” isn’t going to stop women and men of which have every right to interact in dynamics they see fit. I would emphasise a finan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 09:01 AM |
| 1 | "Men are allowed to have preferences, just don't be rude about it" Is A LieApparently it is so hard to say….. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 08:08 AM |
| 1 | "Men are allowed to have preferences, just don't be rude about it" Is A LieWhy can’t both of what you’re saying be true. Lmao ur both talking past each other but basically admit that men and women do the exact same thing. Yet u wanna bitch about misogynist incels online I actually can’t with this sub😭😂. Like is it so hard to say that men and women can’t be generalised yet so act in certain ways generally speaking. U can mention these things without defaulting to generalisations and this discourse proves that. Yet u were so focused on making a point to shame one side lm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 03:59 AM |
| 3 | You should "choose better" aswellI can see that but like I said it’s a perspective thing. To these guys it’s at least something to stop the feeling of drought. Of which u don’t value since it’s chlorine to u. Though u could argue on both sides that it’s like that at its worst only. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 05:09 AM |
| 4 | You should "choose better" aswellWhat you described as your situation. A plethora of chads to choose for sex on tinder. Is an example of crappy options being a perception problem. Not an example of poor success to these men. The reason why is in the original response of which again I don’t know what you’re struggling to see really… I even put that metaphor of water to make it clear but regardless | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 04:49 AM |
| 1 | Women approach vs Men approachThese already rely on social conventions that are awarded to women more than men by this point. What if your social circle or environment where you can meet ppl isn’t very gender diverse? This conversation shows that you have a limited framework of the diversity of social dynamics and possible context of which change this dramatically. Like location and luck when it comes to both public perception, employment and age. All of which whilst again I’m sure men should and would implore accountability… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 04:47 AM |
| 1 | Women approach vs Men approachAlso what if they “just want to be left alone” to dance, drink or whatever. This is arbitrary. I get that it’s based on who make u most comfortable and you’re safety. But this isn’t a good distinction either. Fact is most ppl. And in this dynamic, women will be receptive to this on a case by case basis, if you look approachable, friendly, etc etc. Guys often time react poorly outside of just being a creep or psycho, due to this. A more honest response would be just don’t approach unless you get … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 04:41 AM |
| 6 | You should "choose better" aswellJust reread what I’m saying it’s clear and I believe in your ability to comprehend the paragraph. I refuse to believe u read that and didn’t understand a single word and can only interpret it as “muh sleep with Chad” since that’s obviously not what I’m saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 04:30 AM |
| 1 | You should "choose better" aswellDude the fact that u said that last sentence is exactly the problem. But this sub is just both genders being in denial (usually the women posters) and trivialising the experiences men are going through much like the classic bit u out at the end there saying “sex is not a right use your hand” like I seriously think the men in this sub are just gonna spread open every woman’s cheeks and sell them off. That denial goes hand in hand with more of that resentment in terms of a cycle on this sub in ter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 04:28 AM |
| 2 | You should "choose better" aswellBut men aren’t critiquing women at large to change in regards to this without added motivation such as feminism and gender equality increasing over time in general. Feminism is the initial variable of which mentions how women are treated poorly in relationships, therefore most of not all gender rights progress is anchored around woman’s rights one way or another as a means to mention and discuss relationship problems. Men choosing crazy women and not talking about it due to toxic masculinity was… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 04:23 AM |
| 1 | You should "choose better" aswellReality only exists because I say so cliche. It’s so ubiquitous that u actually have to start calling it a cliche now | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 04:15 AM |
| 9 | You should "choose better" aswellWell…. that’s what they’re pointing too as a value. They’re not even introduced properly in the dating market and are unseen by most women. Whereas having ppl. Even those u may not choose first, appear at all. Yet get rejected. Even if it’s constant or not to your standards. Is still better than what they’re describing. In terms of value. So it may not be what women want but it’s a reality of which men can see and not appreciate since to them it seems like whilst their dying of thirst. You’re th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 04:14 AM |
| 5 | You should "choose better" aswellIt’s more so a lack of perspective. Women tend to not view sex and physical attraction only as the goal but as the means to justify attraction hill off of emotional and personality connection. These dudes haven’t even gotten a positive interaction with women to even introduce themselves to the dating pool and as such when they see women reject choices of which prove that empirically. There are suitors willing for them. It appears as being privileged and rejecting s lack of good options for “Chad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 04:11 AM |
| 5 | It’s in western men’s best interests to just go overseas versus trying to convince American women to change CMVI genuinely don’t understand what u mean by that. What part of my response was wrong with what u originally said | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/23 10:54 AM |
| 5 | It’s in western men’s best interests to just go overseas versus trying to convince American women to change CMVThen what’s the point in mentioning it. It didn’t matter here to him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/23 10:51 AM |
| 3 | Are women worse off if they follow traditional gender roles?Thank you for putting into words what I’ve been thinking for a while. Just didn’t know how to express it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/23 10:50 AM |
| 2 | It’s in western men’s best interests to just go overseas versus trying to convince American women to change CMVI would really like to know this one since it’s claimed so freely | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/23 03:16 AM |
| 7 | It’s in western men’s best interests to just go overseas versus trying to convince American women to change CMVTbf. He didn’t play to any moral or social justice arguements. He was honest in his intentions of just maximising dating efforts and not really caring about the lack of egalitarianism | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/23 03:16 AM |
| 0 | It’s in western men’s best interests to just go overseas versus trying to convince American women to change CMVThis is true tho. OP has massive self delusions of grandeur even if what he’s saying is true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/23 03:15 AM |
| 4 | It’s in western men’s best interests to just go overseas versus trying to convince American women to change CMVCompetition is an illusion of success for something u often time would’ve been content in achieving if you valued it less. All these standards are arbitrary af and twisted to suit ur own narrative and not the inherent logic. The only difference in moving abroad to succeed is intentions. As long as they’re not generalising the entirety of the situation according to their own experience like what this guy is doing (OP) then who cares. You’re like the drunk baseball dad upset at his son for wanting… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/23 03:14 AM |
| 7 | The current dating situation is the result of women's free sexualitySo fuck men basically. Idk why this discourse has to be “date me now open ur legs let’s go back to the good ol men” or “men don’t have a right to this problem since they’ll start suggesting that” when the mere fact of this disparity is mentioned and offered to circumvent in an ethical way. We normalise and culturally decide attraction int tens of perception and access toward faucets of said perception all the time. For its worse elements look at foot binding in China and colourism as a whole ove… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 07:59 AM |
| 2 | The current dating situation is the result of women's free sexualityBtw I don’t relish this point and do think sexual freedom for women is key but it did shock me into realising it’s true. We pretend that it’s not but it’s true. Hopefully not in this day and age but. Damn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 07:50 AM |
| 3 | The current dating situation is the result of women's free sexualityThis is the worst idea possible and wouldn’t benefit u at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 07:49 AM |
| 6 | The current dating situation is the result of women's free sexualityIt’s not all sunshine and rainbows for everybody and that’s the point. Look there is no part in that response i disagree with. I disagree with the context. It’s not just a sexual liberation of women it’s also the lack of sexual liberation for men. And whether or not these things are mutually causal or even beneficial it doesn’t change the fact that discounting the male experience nor the woman’s (historically) is needed. Why can’t we empathise with each other and recognise we need to work togeth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 07:48 AM |
| 8 | The current dating situation is the result of women's free sexualityWhy is it never women? Why is it literally always dude. It’s like that it’s Agatha all along bit but it gets even less funnier each time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 07:42 AM |
| 6 | The way men get porn brain, can women get “attractive guy they had sex with” brain when it comes to sex with future partners?Exactly. It honestly is refreshing to hear honest answers without condescension or an agenda to blame the entirety of another gender. Or they’re super pc or not true to the actual situation to save face. This is Just reality which I appreciate | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/23 07:20 PM |
| 10 | Why do you think male loneliness and decline in dating is finally getting mainstream coverage?Your simply serving the revenge fantasy by making fun of it. Even if easy and justified this just causes more of the problem. Also it legitimises the problem by not taking the wider issue seriously. Hence the reason for this post in the first place | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/23 05:06 AM |
| 1 | Women getting all these degrees is really just intrasexual warfare the upper classes and beta males trying to take all the women.It’s squiggly space lines guessing ppls personalities vs cringe dudebro revenge fantasies. They’re both pseudoscientific nonsense that dictate the brain rot of the ppl who use them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/23 12:35 PM |
| 6 | Women getting all these degrees is really just intrasexual warfare the upper classes and beta males trying to take all the women.This shit is funnier than astrology signs women use as life guides ….. okay nearly as funny | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/23 09:11 AM |
| 1 | The short king phenomenon, what caused it ?You seem to conflate every mens issue toward unjust inceldom. I’ve noticed that a lot and this is a perfect example bruh. Saying short men don’t experience on average this so called push of acceptance is basically wallowing (and u ain’t directly saying that but it’s clear u think it’s unjustified crab in the pot mentality in regards to success in aspects of dating perception) is like saying colourism/racism doesn’t exist since ppl fetishise dark skin from poorly made modelling campaigns or in th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/23 05:45 AM |
| 1 | CMV: men should have the right to opt out of parental and financial obligations for an unwanted babyNo. Respectfully I just don’t think u understood what I originally said. I was making the case that due to men being biologically incapable of being pregnant unless they’re trans. It would just make the inherent logic of men expressing their autonomy in literally the only way they can by physical means which is access to resources and participation. There is literally no other way. And the logic itself makes enough sense without even going as far as discussing unplanned pregnancies | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/23 04:39 AM |
| 1 | CMV: men should have the right to opt out of parental and financial obligations for an unwanted babyBut they’re judged and forced a lot of time to even do so making this an illusion of choice. Also that is literally like saying you should never eat solid food since there’s outliers of ppl choking on it. It doesn’t matter since the general logic and empirical reality differ from that As the saying goes. “It’s just the exception, not the rule” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/23 04:36 AM |
| 15 | The new era of gender identity, new gender roles and new ideologies associated with life, family, relationships and social constructs.Not to be that guy but it does sound like u need to catch up with the times old man. Especially if your problem is vague appeals to a different era where ppl feel less free of which doesn’t really concern how u live your life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/23 03:42 AM |
| 1 | CMV: men should have the right to opt out of parental and financial obligations for an unwanted babyThat is literally the opposite of what I said | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 03:31 PM |
| 0 | CMV: men should have the right to opt out of parental and financial obligations for an unwanted babyI don’t even think u need to go that far. The practicality and inherent logic should be enough since men biologically unless trans. Are incapable of having any right to autonomy by virtue of their existence and as such to be fair money and action is just as applicable of an infringement of bodily autonomy. If we’re being fair here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 12:59 PM |
| -2 | CMV: men should have the right to opt out of parental and financial obligations for an unwanted babyIsn’t bodily autonomy defined by extensions towards time and money. There’s a difference but a very meaningless one when mens righrs of autonomy are manipulated by virtue of time and action. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 12:57 PM |
| 1 | CMV: men should have the right to opt out of parental and financial obligations for an unwanted babyYou say this like the logic and conclusion are wrong just because of the example. U don’t need to find average examples to logically make the case which is fair unless u believe in the double standard inconsistency and if U do then the burden is on you to prove why it shouldn’t be challenged or changed. Men exercising their rights to leave if they opt out of pregnancy. Both logically and empirically is the point. Not the obscurity of examples of which can be countered with other obscure examples… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 12:56 PM |
| 1 | The short king phenomenon, what caused it ?….. so more denial then. This is basically like telling a person who’s depressed and agoraphobic. Hey we live in a more safer world than ever before just go outside and be happy. Of which they do and get worse to which the person then gets the response of “you just don’t want to be happy” Also as someone short and black this doubly sucks. I’ve actually been pretty lucky and adaptable toward that advice you’ve suggested. But it’s still denial and so tone deaf to pretend that minuscule campaigns o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 06:11 AM |
| 1 | Redpillers make women not want to date menAnd thus. The cycle of resentment continues onward. As a new generation of women are burdened with the resentment felt by these to dudes from being typecasted but society and so forth and so forth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 08:53 PM |
| 4 | RP men don’t like women, they’re just attracted to themJealous? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 08:47 PM |
| 0 | RP men don’t like women, they’re just attracted to themone of us one of us | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 08:47 PM |
| 6 | The short king phenomenon, what caused it ?It’s always denial bruh. Like idk why ppd women don’t accept situations as happening just because of clear outliers. Just makes the situation seem less truthful to reality | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 08:35 PM |
| 2 | There is no easy way to get women other than going after very unattractive womenBut we don’t behave so sexually dimorphic and in line with said purpose of biological sex drive. Just because an animal is designed to fuck and it feels good for example on a basic level, doesn’t mean it’s existence is predicated toward maximising that goal. Humans maximise that goal due to our intelligence so we optimise sex as much as possible. To say women will have a terrible existence end of due to the mechanics of sexual dimorphism being different is like saying men are bound to be rapists… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 06:28 AM |
| 2 | There is no easy way to get women other than going after very unattractive womenI feel like you’re experiences are blinding u toward the feasibility and fairness of what you’re suggesting since this is so far removed from a cishetero man’s experience and is really only accommodating toward a very niche type of person. I say this since it skewers itself so much to the point of being misandrist in this issue. Long term pair bonding gets judgement from you, yet cohabitation within non Hetero relationships only work due to their shared libido? (Again in context toward the conve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 06:22 AM |
| 2 | There is no easy way to get women other than going after very unattractive womenThe misandry element is the prescription of the problem being inherently a male thing and rather an aspect of which can be controlled or expressed healthily. It’s why I’m personally a fan of not shaming ppl who use sex toys and that sort of technology to deal with this sort of stuff. Male libido if to men seems to be a problem because of its existence then it’s ok then like if a woman wanted a higher libido. However the misandry stems from this expectation and isn’t consistent like how I mention… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 06:13 AM |
| 4 | There is no easy way to get women other than going after very unattractive womenWhy should men have to change their libido to entice women or rather be judged for it even if it’s majority if not all rather than women be judged in not keeping up with it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 03:09 AM |
| 6 | There is no easy way to get women other than going after very unattractive womenI just find it funny that the inverse ur not considering due to your very clear biases away from the male experience. The fact that u use essentialism to typecast all men as horny ooga booga cavemen and that sex is inherently just a male thing already tells me that ur perspective is misandrist. U didn’t say let’s get women to have a higher libido drive to accomodate for men. Or say the neutral and more fair/non unhinged take of just saying libido is fine just don’t expect women to accomodate for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 02:38 AM |
| 2 | Dating is just a waste of time and money these days.Oh. That’s a refreshing surprise. Nice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/23 02:15 PM |
| 0 | Dating is just a waste of time and money these days.See my reply above. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/23 02:12 PM |
| 1 | Dating is just a waste of time and money these days.U want to know what’s wrong with dating. U and the other American weasel dude. Delegitimising each other’s issues and treating them as saccharine. On ur end by boiling it down like that you’ve inevitably just chosen to feed into his resentment rather than actually solving the problem. And on his end he needs to realise the world is unfair and maximising your chances and accepting what’s been given to u isn’t something women can control in a way that’s satisfying or for your personal growth. Thou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/23 02:12 PM |
| 2 | Men will be at a disadvantage with dating until the interest gap closes or reverses, which might actually happenExactly And becomes like this I’d say over time. Which is why immigrant populations in the west tend to have longer cohabitation and marriage rates at least partially. In our community it becomes clear to see how these variables interact. Like religiosity in the black population. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/23 06:12 AM |
| 3 | Men will be at a disadvantage with dating until the interest gap closes or reverses, which might actually happenYep. The shared experience as both an established minority but still systemically affected by tickle down issues makes pair bonding past independent variables like culture remarkably easier id say. At least from looking from the inside out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/23 05:27 AM |
| 3 | Do you believe a woman should compensate you with affection just because you were dealt a bad situation or bad genetics?No. Being ugly doesn’t mean one should lose their autonomy. I don’t feel pity for these ppl. However I empathise with the shit hand they’ve been dealt with and hope they learn to value other parts of life to give them vitality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/23 11:20 AM |
| 2 | Incel and white knight mentalities both stem from the same blind spotExactly they don’t humble themselves or accept their situation yet feel entitled to said attention and the ability to be successful. Which is why I think these dudes should try and focus on valuing themselves. Mgtow without the resentment but that’s honestly pretty emotionally taxing which I can empathise with, but it’s lowkey what they have other than circular victimhood of which the majority of ppl can never really empathise with. I guess the issue is the scale and numbers since these guys are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 06:38 AM |
| 2 | Incel and white knight mentalities both stem from the same blind spotA bit generalised but I agree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 06:34 AM |
| 1 | Would you be happier with women making the first shot at this point?Idk man this seems like over assuming when most women feel uncomfortable in starting relationships with men past areas of comfort. Like I agree but this ain’t how it goes down since a lot of times where men and women can meet it’s not enough time for this to consistently be the norm. Not enough women do this generally speaking. Though it is true and far more than what ppl are saying here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/23 05:22 AM |
| 2 | Would you be happier with women making the first shot at this point?Yh y’all generally speaking don’t take the rejection well tbh… there’s a sense of entitlement due to the expected dynamic. Of which we all agree is being demonised unfairly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/23 05:19 AM |
| 11 | Would you be happier with women making the first shot at this point?For an entire generation…. Again | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/23 05:18 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill Lies/ exaggerates the Evils and Problems Women Allegedly causeYes because suicidality isn’t a common side effect and is quite drastic. However the mental strain toward that end in these conditions show discrepancy. So definitely does show evidently that in DV gendered violence is a misnomer due to underreported statistics in a universal setting wherein reality it effects the genders differently and the overwhelming narrative of male on female violence is true in context to the stats but only toward a single variable of study. My point ultimately is that un… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/23 01:08 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill Lies/ exaggerates the Evils and Problems Women Allegedly causeFirstly I mentioned “feel rates of suicidality”. Which is why I mentioned the rates of male suicide in general. My point is that it’s likely that suicidal ideation is of course connected to abuse both physical and mental. So men very likely do feel the brunt of partnered violence just differently. So the 7x rate of what is reported is just the reflection of the most common dynamic investigated which is male on female DV. Of which does show more frequency but from a skewered lense. It’s likely mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/23 02:33 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill Lies/ exaggerates the Evils and Problems Women Allegedly causeOkay but men that are DV victims to women feel rates of suicidality higher than women victims at 11% to 7%. And since men commit suicide more successfully than women. Along with said underreporting means that the impact of the rates of DV is likely a cause of the suicide epidemic facing mens mental health. So we can play this game all day. Doesn’t change the key fact if underreporting framing these stats as correct but not a purely gendered issue of which is equally represented https://www.ncdv.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/23 12:57 AM |
| 0 | The Red Pill Lies/ exaggerates the Evils and Problems Women Allegedly causeGonna repost this comment.… The main problem with this post is that you vastly underestimate the likelihood, to the point of double blind cherrypicking underrepresented aspects of rape but not false allegations and women criminality in general toward men, of false allegations being much higher and more damaging. Women can use and are more likely to use weapons like pots. Pans. Shit that can do serious damage. Also men not being taken seriously when discussing these issues such as and in regards … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/23 10:56 AM |
| 2 | The Red Pill Lies/ exaggerates the Evils and Problems Women Allegedly causeThe problem is that you vastly underestimate the likelihood, to the point of double blind cherrypicking underrepresented aspects of rape but not false allegations and women criminality in general toward men, of false allegations being much higher and more damaging. Women can use and are more likely to use weapons like pots. Pans. Shit that can do serious damage. Also men not being taken seriously when discussing these issues such as and in regards to the women are wonderful effect | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/23 10:52 AM |
| 5 | The Red Pill Lies/ exaggerates the Evils and Problems Women Allegedly causeExactly ppl act like underreported stats aren’t the key variable here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/23 10:48 AM |
| 1 | Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bashIt’s anger to just want consistency? Ur part of the problem misandrist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 08:30 AM |
| 0 | Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bashI’m not sure I buy that especially with how normalised it is compared to the over highlighting of male perpetrators. It’s normalised to an extent with male perpetrators but not nearly to the same extent | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 08:24 AM |
| 6 | Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bashExactly. It’s a clear sociological phenomenon that impacts this greatly. It’s the part of toxic masculinity nobody wants to talk about in the mainstream. The general societal pressure men face not just from men. But women and society plus media. That states that women can’t harm them and be predatory with the added societal stigma of it not being taken as seriously of which reinvigorates the need for men to reveal themselves as victims. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 10:23 PM |
| 6 | Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bashTwo words after these five…. Underreported statistics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 09:40 PM |
| 5 | Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bashLike women here do play this pretend denial game to hide their misandry and I’m tired of it OP. The men here cloud their biases and misogyny aswell and they’re not much better but coming from a place of introducing the problem of which most individual men aren’t participating in. Especially here. Is annoying. We should be seeking moral consistency for the sake of innocent individual men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 09:33 PM |
| 6 | Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bashWhat lesson? That resentment breeds resentment? Because that’s how it’s turning out. You’re only proving to ppl like me who have no pill or gendered agenda other than consistency that you’re dragging the problem down further. Everybody feels like they’re the rabbit with a gun until u realise who they’re pointing it at. Is the hunters son who saw his dad get shot and pushes the problem. Men aren’t going to run to rape apology land by just showing consistency. Your just showing that you don’t care… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 09:15 PM |
| 9 | Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bashTwo wrongs don’t make a right. Do better if you’re raising the problem. I will never understand misandry as an excuse for misogyny esque reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 09:05 PM |
| 4 | Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bashSome I find to be a little bit of an understatement. It’s quite underreported. Female perpetrators of abuse on men but yes I agree. Should be sued. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 08:32 PM |
| 9 | Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bashI do find it interesting that I haven’t seen many women here disavowing this with the same energy they would if it is reversed. Not to play into any biases but this lack of representation at least on this sub speaks volumes in terms of denial. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 08:29 PM |
| 47 | Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bashIf there’s not any other context to this story. Just an example of double standards of female predatory nature on men. Of which I’m glad is highlighted. That’s all really | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 05:25 PM |
| 7 | What do you think is the best way to deal with shit tests that are coming from women?Underrated comment. But back when I was in relationships. I just went with the ignore route. Worked everytime. U don’t get access to me if ur fucking with me for shits and giggles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 01:25 PM |
| 1 | Women Tend To Change Their "Tone" As They Lose OptionsOkay. Then the women are actively in denial which is just as bad since it fuels the resentment. But also it’s definitely not static | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/23 05:18 PM |
| 1 | Women Tend To Change Their "Tone" As They Lose OptionsOh said it before me. Nice. I like how u handled that. Since we can’t ignore the causality of why this happens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/23 05:17 PM |
| 1 | What is the point of debating the pills when nobody will change their minds?And boredom. Go hand in hand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/23 11:44 AM |
| 2 | Keeping interest & attraction alive.Unexpectedly mature and well rounded advice. Very true! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/23 04:11 AM |
| 1 | Age gaps between men and women have been shrinking. How does the Red Pill explain this?My guess is probably the 80s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/23 03:45 AM |
| 2 | For more traditionally minded men, dating other cultures should be more mainstreamed and acceptableIt’s refreshing to see how u approach things here ngl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/23 03:38 AM |
| 1 | Women Tend To Change Their "Tone" As They Lose OptionsFair enough but even with that in mind. Rough sample study but proves my point past the context u describe. Jump on aita or true off my chest and read the difference in response when it comes to men and women being responsible for choosing or enabling shitty partners. Keep in mind I’m talking in generalities. I think OPs example is laughable at best. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/23 03:07 AM |
| 14 | Women Tend To Change Their "Tone" As They Lose OptionsIt’s literally just resentment and denial. Take ur pick between the dudes and dudettes. It’s really interchangeable | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/23 02:55 AM |
| 1 | Women Tend To Change Their "Tone" As They Lose OptionsOr. Fun thought. Maybe we all stop choosing shitty ppl and excusing it. Though I will say there’s a point to be made about a woman’s choice in dating being forgiven and empathised more with than men. Not in every level but enough to where whilst this post is a bitter one sided caricature. It holds that truth to it. We do tend to as a society infantilise a woman’s responsibility in choice by being more forgiving than we do with men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/23 02:55 AM |
| 1 | Dead bedrooms explainedHonestly not the place for u if you’re frustrated at ppl complaining about this. They’re not looking for easy answers. They want to debate on their current condition and why it is that way without admitting that it’s based mostly on hurt or ignorance for both men and women respectfully. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 01:49 PM |
| – | This is why women have become more choosy (from the perspective of studies and experiments).Interesting to just see the raw data on this. Wonder how the biases ppl hold here receive this information to be like conclude it to be. Denial. Acceptance. Over-assuming anecdotes are worth more than they are? Let’s find out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 08:56 AM |
| 2 | Modern Women are Self CenteredThis sub reminds me that snarky self importance disguises itself well underneath hurt and resentment. Though to be fair I have noticed a trend of women here not being really either honest or just out of touch when it comes to awareness of general advantages and privileges society reflects through dating to double standards. But I keep seeing resentment from ppl here trying to hide it so desperately with large overgeneralised claims preaching to other mostly miserable or miserably bored ppl. Wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 05:58 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: How do you define 'power imbalance'?U do realise u making a point of knowledge over someone who is ignorant is the definition of a hollow victory. I literally don’t know what you’re referring to so your sarcasm has no value to anyone but yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/23 06:45 AM |
| 0 | Q4W: How do you define 'power imbalance'?we find out that not everybody is aware of what that means and as such would need more than just snarky reference to understand, after be sure to watch the 8 o’clock news with James! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/23 06:07 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: How do you define 'power imbalance'?This is what happens when two ppl talk pst each other with completely different paradigms but are unable to communicate to each other what they meant past assuming the other person is in bad faith. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/23 05:27 AM |
| 0 | I think a good solution for women would be to stop having sex with men.Very good musings on the actual heart of the problem. What I will say tho is that unseen factors such as generational resentment and sociocultural connotations of standards being ingrained for past a generation now makes the task of attraction and empathetic connection genuinely harder the longer it goes on | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/23 05:20 AM |
| 9 | Study finds that being muscular does not increase attractiveness for short men.I want to say that you’re wrong. But……. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 07:44 PM |
| 2 | MGTOW men of reddit, did you feel fulfilled in life without a partner?We are small but present. And like to see the world around us burn loool. No but we are here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/23 10:15 AM |
| 1 | MGTOW men of reddit, did you feel fulfilled in life without a partner?Honestly. Yes. But tbf I’ve become majorly misanthropic over the years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/23 10:14 AM |
| 2 | Besides sex, do you even like women?It’s more prevalent in clear double standards. I offhandedly reference statistical bigotry of which is accepted in one instance than the next. And men can see this not being addressed. It’s a small example but we can talk about things like how DV and rape are treated differently with women. And how men aren’t generally empathised with when it comes with this stuff. Those are the clearest at least to me but I’m sure there are other examples to point to It’s not right but resentment exists due to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 10:57 AM |
| 3 | Besides sex, do you even like women?I’ll leave it here then as I’m sensing that u don’t want to continue. Which is perfectly fine btw. Great conversation. Made me ponder my points quite a bit. But I guess it all comes down to whether the fringe dynamic represents a larger pipeline or if it’s just the dying gasps of the entitled. I disagree with ur perspective due to the limited framework but like I sed I do agree with a lot. But seconded. Great conversation. Hopefully we see more of this type of stuff on this sub. And I wish u wel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 07:38 PM |
| 7 | Besides sex, do you even like women?How much of this is based on associating inceldom as self perpetuating. Like ur analogy with the man and his wife works since the causal and correlative pipeline is cherry picked to ignore responsibility. Of which I agree. But this is only the case as an isolated incident. If it was an epidemic of men murdering their wives. Is that still just men being psychopathic? Or is the route cause that’s leading to these men, whilst not purely based on societal outcasting, more based upon a societal dynam… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 06:28 PM |
| 10 | Besides sex, do you even like women?I guess this boils down to the chicken and egg because I don’t disagree with ur take on incels at all. I just think they become like this and form this ideology due to being pushed away first. And in the same direction. Not a perfect analogy but think of nazi germany. The nazis ran with the narrative of fear and insecurity. If u manage to scare and manipulate the Austrian/German population into antisemetic nonsense it really has power over ppl pushed into accepting anything other than their curr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 05:24 PM |
| 3 | Besides sex, do you even like women?Agreed my focus is on coherence and understanding. I can respect ur opinion on that though, since I was like that a few years ago until I personally didn’t really care for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 04:39 PM |
| 17 | Besides sex, do you even like women?I mean. I’m still here, not to toot my own horn. But I try my best to consider the whole pie. And yes it’s really clear in terms of incels showing up and talking nonsense. But you’re kind of already missing the point. Those men are in that misogynistic mindset due to being pushed away like this. I tried to apply the analysis toward the underlying feelings men have on this sub from not just their vitriol but really the resentment that causes it. Now like I mentioned. I don’t support them by any m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 04:32 PM |
| 5 | Besides sex, do you even like women?Convenience. I say U. Instead of you. For convenience since most times it doesn’t affect what I’m saying to ppl | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 04:27 PM |
| 3 | Besides sex, do you even like women?😂😂😂. Im sorry that made me laugh a bit since I was typing this on mobile and tend to use text talk a bit more. And I’ve got big ass thumbs But Hopefully ur still able to understand what I’m saying. But yes i’m a native English speaker. Don’t know any other language | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 04:26 PM |
| 3 | Besides sex, do you even like women?I have a strong suspicion that If we talked more we’d get along quite well lmaoo Completely agree and it sucks that ppl just gaslight that into not being an aspect that is vital in this discourse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 03:30 PM |
| 1 | Besides sex, do you even like women?I understand. I’m not sure if I am since I wa never diagnosed but I’ve expected myself to be autistic since a lot of the stuff described applies to me pretty well like that bluntness. Also my brother is Asperger’s and it kind of reads how he’d talk. And I do respect that empathy and believe u care. It’s just that sometimes how ppl say things actually matters as much as the things they’re saying sine he didn’t receive the message as it was intended. And I think lowkey and again not specifically t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 03:15 PM |
| 4 | Besides sex, do you even like women?Not that I think u were wrong for pointing that out. But it did come across as a little condescending considering the bulk of what he was saying was based in his experience being left behind and lonely in the dating scene. Not to attack u personally and don’t take this the wrong way. But this is another example of men just not really being empathised with. Hence this self fulfilling prophecy of a lack of genuine care for their emotional well-being. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 03:06 PM |
| 16 | Besides sex, do you even like women?Lmaoo I try to be holistic and fair in terms of reading these situations. Appreciate u reading friend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 02:51 PM |
| 4 | Besides sex, do you even like women?And to answer ur questions. For me. None of these things are an issue. I genuinely if I was still dating, just want another woman on my vybe and mentality who’s empathetic. I don’t care for equal house chores being a dramatic thing and just care about making this life worth it with that woman. But also I’m not blind to reality that these men do speak to and mention of which again I’ve seen myself and whilst it can be denied by basing it down to “do u actually see women as equals?” Or the housewo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 02:36 PM |
| 78 | Besides sex, do you even like women?Not an exact representative of the ppl you’re asking. And I’m not gonna speak for them as they are their own ppl. But if I were to hazard a guess it’s resentment. Not to pull a sob story but one more to the reality these men likely feel. Resentment not of women. But of the societal privileges they have that aren’t able to be talked about in the mainstream at all really. Along with and constant demonisation of male expressions of sexuality as predatory and a lot of what society has deemed to be u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 02:33 PM |
| 9 | Promiscuity should be frowned upon by both sexesThis is a measured and holistic response to the issue not based in stereotypes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 09:33 PM |
| 3 | What other inequality do you care about besides sex/attractive inequality?I just don’t want ppl laughing at male victims and excusing women by stupid excuses that don’t link toward anything Case and point. Women raping/SA a man. “No. That can’t happen or isn’t as high in numbers, no no u see it’s toxic masculinity. It’s really mens fault” That logic bein defaulted too and not called out so easily is frustrating Oh but no no. It’s just men can’t stick their dick in women. Please. This shit is the problem. Muh incel instead of accurately and consistently working on gend… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 10:33 AM |
| 0 | What other inequality do you care about besides sex/attractive inequality?The double standards of criminality and demonisation. Women clearly have a historic experience from dudes doing this. But I’m concerned as a society that we haven’t learned that hypocrisy isn’t the right way to go about it. The same ppl screaming about consent. Would bend over backwards with excuse after excuse of women having the societal advantage to rape and DV men with it being laughable or not really their fault or some other bullshit excuses. All based on resentment because women weren’t l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 10:32 AM |
| 6 | The fall of Afghanistan: an analysis of gender relations between men and women in Afghan society pre taliban take over and its consequences on societal integrityIt does speak to the resentment and narcissism on these subreddits as if they have meaningful impact. I wish the conversation was based on addressing actual double standards like women getting away with rape and dv on men more often. Not how u being sexless translates to society being doomed for giving women autonomy. Now. Let’s not delegitimise the position as only being this. But posts like these like to make grand points of feminism causing the downfall due to stratification in the dating mar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 07:29 AM |
| 6 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveYes. Because the whole world can be broken down and analysed effectively through homeless shelters. Ur experience in one of the worst conditions for sample sizes doesn’t mean a whole lot when I can tell you stories of women feeling uncomfortable with other women because of toxic subcultures surrounding them like mean girl culture for example. It’s obviously not as destructive of an example nor is the fear surrounding men from women entirely unjustified. But u speak as if this experience is enoug… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 07:24 AM |
| 6 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveBut….. they probably do. Most of these things are massively underreported and misrepresented of which feeds into this hysteria and justification of treating men like shit. Men and women act behaviourally different. But the behaviours of women are allowed to let slide when they’re toxic. Absolutely way more than men. So this again is just bias. Just because men need to work on this shit doesn’t mean women should get a pass and we should ignore that they do. Fuck misandry and misogyny of whoever i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 06:33 AM |
| 5 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveU had me in the first half and the general point is correct. But holy smokes Bateman and Batman. if this isn’t the problem in real time. This is just so biased and blinded toward a one way perspective that I almost can’t take it seriously Literally every interaction displayed here has been accepted by mainstream society by some extent when it comes to women. Female on male rape. DV. If the point of societal sympathy is based on men needing to do the work of support systems. Which is where I was … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 05:42 AM |
| 3 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveAlthough I agree with u and u are more correct. This snarky self importance gotta go. There are biases that women have that society doesn’t want to acknowledge enough and whilst the experiences and logic OP is using is framed upon a flawed understanding of what society is like and how responsible it is when it comes to how it develops. But this attitude. Especially the end part about making life shittier for everyone just pushes more men down this rabbit hole since u decide to delegitimise any a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 05:34 AM |
| 2 | Entitled sex starved men, sex is not a resource. It’s like asking women to let you eat them just because you’re starvingCan’t say ur wrong and that I haven’t learnt that from this story tbh…. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/23 09:53 PM |
| 15 | Entitled sex starved men, sex is not a resource. It’s like asking women to let you eat them just because you’re starvingIf ur only take away from this response and any critique is that men are rapey. U are part of the problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/23 09:24 PM |
| -1 | Entitled sex starved men, sex is not a resource. It’s like asking women to let you eat them just because you’re starvingThat really does suck. Maybe she’s asexual? And trying to hide that away as she doesn’t understand or know it? Again I know dick about the situation but it’s sad and I don’t want my inner optimist to be killed by Reddit. So I do hope in time it does work out. But. Damn man If both sides could stop overemphasising this need to delegitimise the others perspective and strawman it into guilting the discussion or (to be fair to women in the dynamic) justifying predatory behaviour. Maybe we wouldn’t b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/23 08:31 PM |
| 13 | Entitled sex starved men, sex is not a resource. It’s like asking women to let you eat them just because you’re starvingWell if u advocate for it like this. Then I don’t blame them. U can’t communicate this tone deaf and offensive message and expect it to translate to most men taking the red pill and obviously not (in most cases) wanting their partner and the situation to translate like that anyway. It just leads into the inference that any complaint men have in being in a sexless or unhealthy relationship with affection, isn’t allowed or is even offensive to do so. Why can’t we all act like adults and communicat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/23 08:27 PM |
| 1 | Entitled sex starved men, sex is not a resource. It’s like asking women to let you eat them just because you’re starvingIt sucks because it just breeds resentment which will worsen issues. I wish the best for your brother and hope he’s able to work it out with his wife and she’s able to empathise past over assuming offence. But we are more influenced by group settings than we’d like to admit as a species. And those aren’t great signs… Not to pry into ur business though. It’s just a story of which doesn’t even need to set the stage up to be this hostile and unproductive of the issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/23 08:24 PM |
| 0 | Entitled sex starved men, sex is not a resource. It’s like asking women to let you eat them just because you’re starvingThis is what I tend to think of these problems as when I hear them too. Not just. Men bad. Entitled. Want woman to open legs now. Of which is reductive. I can’t call it reductive ad absurdum since it has credibility. But. Not by much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/23 08:15 PM |
| 26 | Entitled sex starved men, sex is not a resource. It’s like asking women to let you eat them just because you’re starvingYep. Like I have no skin in any pill race but this just reads like somebody who assumes any problems that mention autonomy mean that they’re advocating for it to be stripped away to base the problem down to a dismissive straw man that characterises ppl feeling this very real and fair feeling as selfish and entitled losers. Sure. Obviously the incel stereotype exists for a reason. But it’s just super tone deaf to reduce critique like this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/23 08:14 PM |
| 2 | Women who make negative generalizations about men and defend it by saying “if you’re not one of the bad ones, why do you care” is as bad as making negative generalizations about a race and saying “if you’re not one of the bad ones, why are you getting offended”.Besides punching up and down isn’t static. It can change in different social directions not necessarily the same as how it translates systemically | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/23 07:49 AM |
| 3 | Women who make negative generalizations about men and defend it by saying “if you’re not one of the bad ones, why do you care” is as bad as making negative generalizations about a race and saying “if you’re not one of the bad ones, why are you getting offended”.Not to as a black man this… But this is a perfect time for it so what the hell As a black man. The minute I call our societal hypocrisy is the minute u get 13/50 racists hiding in 1 in 6 women will suffer a sexual assault misandry from feminists. And it isn’t amusing at all. It’s pretty fucking annoying actually to get it from two fronts as a minority. Even though I’m not going to appeal to that mostly following urs and some other reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/23 07:47 AM |
| 3 | If a guy had 'gay' experiences...This. A lot of these problems are societal double standards of privileges ppl don’t want to talk about or honestly admit. And I gotta say this is happening a lot more with the ladies in society ngl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/23 05:40 AM |
| 7 | If a guy had 'gay' experiences...Lmaoooo it’s bullshit now because he came with receipts and answered ur challenge. U just proves him right. I never had any stakes in this conversation but damn. Talk about ask and u shall receive. It doesn’t surprise me though since bisexuality is notoriously discriminated against from all sides unfortunately for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/23 05:37 AM |
| 1 | The bluepill is too difficult for most men to swallow“We all wear masks Spider-Man, but which one is real. The one that hides your face. Or the one that is your face” Green goblin - Spectacular spider- man Everyone by ur logic is masking something. We aren’t authentic 100% of the time. What matter is if our confidence in said presentation is real and not fake. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 07:13 PM |
| 6 | The rise of Andrew Tate is sad, but not surprisingIt’s how it translates to ppl tho. Ur message of addressing toxic patriarchal behaviours society accepts in gendered roles. Isn’t helpful. It’s turning these men that these behaviours don’t accurately describe fall into that self fulfilling prophecy like tatebros. Or to be alone and desperate with shit advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/23 06:50 AM |
| 3 | The rise of Andrew Tate is sad, but not surprisingBut why is only one perspective being emboldened by society and media. And I feel like if these philosophies of masculinity were so diverse and effective and not how previously described it wouldn’t devolve into just not being in toxic cave man mode or listen to everything women say regardless to the point where the advice is self defeating and not helpful to even instigating/maintaining problems that are faced when ignoring the masculine perspective. Mainstream society overwhelmingly makes this… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/23 06:48 AM |
| 1 | The rise of Andrew Tate is sad, but not surprisingPretty much my view of the situation minus the personal experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/23 06:31 AM |
| 3 | The bluepill is too difficult for most men to swallowYour so obviously conflating what u think redpill is. I’m not even on the pill shit but ur interpretation is clearly mired in biases and preconceptions of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/23 06:19 AM |
| 4 | The bluepill is too difficult for most men to swallowI don’t think u know what game is. True game isn’t superficial. It’s confidence in oneself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/23 06:15 AM |
| 4 | The bluepill is too difficult for most men to swallowIf ur receiving women who reciprocate and respect that. Then yh it improved the personality from what was once before. U don’t like it. Fine. But it can and does work for ppl | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/23 06:14 AM |
| 1 | There are 50/50 male/female to hookup with each other but somehow there's a mass of men that are struggling but women are chilling. How does this make sense?Again. I feel like ur intentionally looking at every single time where it would be reasonable but ignoring even the likelihood that women can just be deceptive and lie for unjustified reasons. Which. Is just demonstrably false. And again. Not saying ur wrong. But ur not approaching this holistically and fairly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/23 09:57 PM |
| 8 | Q4Men: why don’t you prefer relationships?Yh ppl tend to forget. This is a Reddit sub. Not reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/23 09:34 PM |
| 1 | There are 50/50 male/female to hookup with each other but somehow there's a mass of men that are struggling but women are chilling. How does this make sense?It could mean that. Ur just simply looking at the times where women have good enough reason to reasonably get men who can’t say no to piss off without fearing for their safety. Everyone can reject anyone for any reason. But yes. Men and women can be duplicitous and use relationships and another one I’ve personally heard is to co opt asexuality. Of course asexual women exist mind u. But more often than not it can signal that a woman’s just taking the easy route in saying ur not good enough to tal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/23 01:14 PM |
| -1 | There are 50/50 male/female to hookup with each other but somehow there's a mass of men that are struggling but women are chilling. How does this make sense?And also importantly. This too which ppl don’t want to talk about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/23 09:00 AM |
| 1 | There are 50/50 male/female to hookup with each other but somehow there's a mass of men that are struggling but women are chilling. How does this make sense?This | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/23 09:00 AM |
| 2 | There are 50/50 male/female to hookup with each other but somehow there's a mass of men that are struggling but women are chilling. How does this make sense?Yh exactly I’m tired of the sympathy bullshit when men have this over their head literally everywhere bruh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/23 08:59 AM |
| 1 | There are 50/50 male/female to hookup with each other but somehow there's a mass of men that are struggling but women are chilling. How does this make sense?U responded without the context. Women who say they’re dating as an excuse instead of an actual communication of their relationship status. It’s not make up your mind. It’s contextual differences. Y’all talking about different things but speaking facts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/23 08:59 AM |
| 1 | PPD Men desire submissive partners because they can use their relationship as an ego stroke.Interesting and I do agree that I may have overassumed how well it can work and ur knowledge of the bdsm community from what I can tell sticks. To some degree. Like constant scene dynamics regardless of whatever within the ever changing bounds of a relationship is unrealistic and can lead to abuse. But sustained play or exploring the concept of mutual roles that have a clear sense of leading is possible need this regard. Just would need to be tweaked. Little uneven is all. Let’s say for example … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/23 02:18 PM |
| 1 | PPD Men desire submissive partners because they can use their relationship as an ego stroke.I would suggest the bdsm community for this. Whilst obviously not confined toward traditional dating/relationship dynamics the roles of Dom and sub are respected and taken seriously. Again under the context of sexual exploration but it’s dynamic and features I think match well with respecting the subordinate who would have equal role. I know I asked u but u think that would be a good example…. Just want to see what ur parameters are for perceiving inferiority Also yh I wasn’t actually thinking o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/23 01:11 PM |
| 1 | When is being vulnerable/open too much for a man dating a woman?This is true tho a lot of men don’t understand trauma dumping on women ain’t the move | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/23 08:58 AM |
| 3 | When is being vulnerable/open too much for a man dating a woman?Super great advice. Again not really on u. As a person but society and feminist narratives. U see these responses from feminists of which asked society to open up in this way then when it inevitably does and there are cans of worms. Those same ppl have no real solutions or care…. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/23 08:57 AM |
| 3 | When is being vulnerable/open too much for a man dating a woman?Then why does society not take responsibility for telling ppl to allow men to open up their emotions in the right ways. Especially in this dating dynamic with women. It’s encouraged which is great but then when opening up to the ppl asking they overwhelmingly don’t reciprocate. Ur correct but this view is myopic of the issue since it does cause resentment as ppl are sweeping away the issue by denoting it only to be a bad person problem and not an accepted cultural problem. Yet men have to acquie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/23 08:53 AM |
| 1 | PPD Men desire submissive partners because they can use their relationship as an ego stroke.I feel like this simplifies the position based on its audience. There’s nothing wrong with inherent gender roles if both parties agree to the logic beforehand. The concepts mentioned of deferral or dynamics of respecting authority aren’t just the machinations of Reddit pillers online. Women and society perpetuate them into thinking that their position is ultimately only there’s to fix, of which whilst ultimately true. This opinion of power fantasies leading to ultimately be a case of “control wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/23 08:45 AM |
| 1 | PPD Men desire submissive partners because they can use their relationship as an ego stroke.Also this aswell. It’s awkward social frustration that’s been drilled into them through echo chambers and society that they’re worth of need is dictated through this fantasy submissive stereotype of a woman that is always going to be transient if it at all exists. And they need to accept that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/23 08:41 AM |
| 3 | PPD Men desire submissive partners because they can use their relationship as an ego stroke.So basically. I know U did it. So I should do it. Why are gender discussions exercises in generational resentment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/23 08:39 AM |
| 1 | PPD Men desire submissive partners because they can use their relationship as an ego stroke.I feel as if this is the crux of why the responses are like the way we are since we talk and think about extreme interpretations of those traits. It doesn’t make dominance or submission inherently bad when looked at through nuance however men on this platform that likely feel attacked due to the presence of mainstream feminism being counterintuitive and aggressive toward male expressions of sexuality from a feminist paradigm. A paradigm of which has weight but fuels the counter cultural and red … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/23 08:35 AM |
| -1 | CMV: Women would not date or marry at all if presented with the same options as modern menYh when u deny male false rape cases when it’s one of the most underreported stats and ignoring male affects of systemic injustice is not only demonstrably wrong but unironically fuels more resentment and lack of empathy/attention to womens issues | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/23 05:05 AM |
| 2 | What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife?Again proving u are not actually here to debate. Disingenuous as ever. There was no argument but doesn’t mean that there is no discussion for enquiry. I’m interrogating ur lack of response I mentioned ur ignorance toward the bdsm community and how ur response is essentially just bait for anti feminists. There is debate to be had if ur acting in good faith. Address the arguments properly not mired in ideology. Me pointing out ur poor response doesn’t make it personal. I’m not attacking ur charact… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/23 04:52 AM |
| 1 | What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife?So ur really going to type that out like u haven’t been the most snarky and used the most misrepresented arguments to make it all about misogyny everywhere….. This is really stupid because ur basically infantilising women as a whole if ur representing them as ur disagreements when they’re irrational and biased to all hell. U should take responsibility for ur own pov and not use women as a scapegoat to try and be clever | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/23 04:49 AM |
| 5 | What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife?There wasn’t other than to point out how lame ur response was. There wasn’t an argument past u answering this in the worst way and being misinformed based on ur analysis of the bdsm community. Respond properly and not with bias. Is what this response and the other are | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/23 04:46 AM |
| 2 | What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife?So Reddit snark pretending to be intellectual debate. Brilliant! That hasn’t been done before. Also that’s fine as a debate style but u got to be able to have good arguments if ur going to be that confident in ur analysis being good enough to poke holes out of in this way. And the severe lack of nuance and ideological bias preventing u from seeing the nuances of this issue. Isn’t a great start I gotta be honest…. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/23 04:34 AM |
| 4 | What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife?Yada yada patriarchy and misogyny. That’s literally all ur responses like in this argument. So basically all female subs are working through trauma and ppl are taking advantage of them and their consent. All porn is misogynistic. Basically you’ve been framing the bdsm community which relies on respecting consent and autonomy of all participants very seriously….. as just a bunch of vulnerable infantilised women and creepy rapey dudes. Like I’m trying to find an argument you’ve suggested that actu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/23 04:32 AM |
| 1 | What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife?This is really what it is when U get past those who just want a sexy secretary vagina. It boils down to respecting need. Holding women accountable for utilising resources and behaviour that is alway combative and regardless of gender/sex having equal communication and ability to respect each other’s roles in the dynamic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/23 04:26 AM |
| 1 | What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife?I think the double standard is causing the issue of ppl not agreeing. Because leadership whilst typically seen in relationships as deferring decisions to the man. Doesn’t mean that it’s a causal relationship rather than correlated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/23 04:21 AM |
| 0 | What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife?I gotta ask why are u here. Why engage when u already have ur opinions and aren’t willing to debate or discuss properly…. U see every man here who’s answered this as basically the same person who just wants a female lapdog when the answers are more nuanced than that so again I ask. Why are u here…? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/23 04:19 AM |
| 4 | What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife?Exactly. Very interesting switch up. Men want to feel needed and respected and women want emotional stability and availability. These can naturally occur more often than not and shouldn’t be judged but deconstructed gender roles being more open in society is also okay too. Let’s not play schrodingers woman victimhood and be consistent | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/23 04:12 AM |
| 1 | Oh no sisters! we got too cocky..We don’t have stats and I don’t doubt that there’s some that may. But a lot of ppl don’t want to be trapped into raising someone that they think is there’s and that’s fair enough. U can’t expect ppl to do that especially when adoption is more often than not voluntary | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/23 03:07 PM |
| 1 | Oh no sisters! we got too cocky..Yh it is if u don’t want and actively didn’t want to be a father to a son that’s not yours. Doesn’t mean u can’t have a relationship but ur being obtuse here. That’s not a reason most men and women would accept. But men here to stay on topic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/23 08:59 AM |
| 5 | TitleSounds like copium | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/23 10:16 AM |
| 1 | How do women tolerate getting complimented all day? It sounds horrible and oppressive. Men wouldn’t last a day.Completely fine with me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 08:47 AM |
| -1 | Men are becoming less masculine and women are to blameEhh selective empathy maybe. Embracing both aspects of gender isn’t bad. But again. Most men choosing to be masculine isn’t really making them happy if the topic is about concern. Having a healthy mix of both traits toward ur specifics as an individual to love ur happiest and best life is great. But not when it’s a societal trend that a good portion of ppl don’t feel represented by. Again I can tell u care but not specifically which is why this is more selective. U seriously don’t see how these … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/22 12:54 PM |
| 0 | Men are becoming less masculine and women are to blameU don’t realise how it’s unfair that men in of themselves have to kowtow their masculinity, for societal trends because U feel that they need to. As long as men and women aren’t engaging in toxic gendered norms at the expense of themselves and others. Being traditionally masculine for most men and women too, decreasing is a valid concern that can’t just be erased as “I mean, men need to be more feminine because I want them too, even tho most men in the example I mention aren’t represented since … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/22 11:51 AM |
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