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It’s more beneficial for women to latch onto one guy who loves them back just as much and stick to that relationship, because of uncertain paternity. This pattern of behavior lead to civilization and just about everything we know, good and bad. Having sex with too many guys would mean none of them would take care of the kid lowering the chances of survival considerably. As unfortunate as the mismatch in libido might seem, it makes sense for our species’ survival. That mismatch tends to close whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:07 AM
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One answer is that maybe she wants a kid. In this difficult economy, she needs someone who can hold things down until the kid is in school for a full day. The one exception to this is the initiating sex. That sounds like either she’s not attracted or she waits for a sign, by which point he already initiated sex. There’s nothing wrong with telling her you’d find it hot if she takes more initiative there. Personally even though I am a little more traditional, I can’t imagine not initiating sex wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:42 AM
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She learned something about you that makes you incompatible or unattractive to her. Personally if a guy says or implies he doesn’t want to get married, seems like he doesn’t pull his weight enough or doesn’t take much initiative, I move on. He can be the most attractive guy, but it doesn’t matter if those three standards aren’t met from the get go. I’ll just be disappointed and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:26 AM
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If my future daughter did that, I would give up any hope for her future and just help take care of my grandkids financially since I’m not confident the father would do enough for them. Honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:22 PM
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No it’s because these women play the victim all the time, start problems with other women and are generally problematic people. I don’t put even 2 seconds of thought into most single moms I’ve met, the only ones who do are the ones who start trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:21 PM
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A lot of us could resemble one in a good marriage, but in a casual or non exclusive context? No chance, I want to be loved, appreciated and taken care of in a loving way. I’m not doing anything that’ll put the entire burden on me and that’s what ends up happening with the chance of getting pregnant. It means I’ll have to put in a lot of work and money to that end. That’s only worth it if I’m married to the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:39 PM
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Women are more promiscuous when single than they were in the past, but that doesn’t mean that women who have no or low body count are lying. Not everything in life falls in the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 01:59 AM
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It must be miserable to feel like you have to go to parties to feel alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:43 PM
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No I’m not worried about that. Most western countries had more progressive policies much longer than the U.S. did and the majority seem to agree with most of them. In the U.S. I can’t imagine that’ll happen because the entire reason the country changed is out of fear of losing its superpower status if it didn’t double its workforce. Rolling back certain rights (like abortion) could happen, but on a full scale level it would be really bad for the country if it suddenly lost half its workforce.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 11:52 PM
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But if you’re not then that’s the next best thing. And even hot people can have trouble getting with specific people like crushes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 11:47 PM
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They don’t and shouldn’t expect to. They approach a woman and put in effort to get to know her and things proceed on their own timeline.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 09:25 PM
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If you want to date complete strangers then you’ll have to signal to the general public that you’re serious, friendly, nonjudgmental and don’t expect too much from them (I’d argue meeting through friends, family and proximity doesn’t contradict that wish, but regardless) You can do this in OLD too but it’s going to be more difficult to turn those into dates since women have a lot of experience with men misrepresenting themselves online and any woman that’s a 6 or over already gets a lot of offer…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:24 PM
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Depends. If she was from a big city then that’s a possibility. Point is that in most places in the US women couldn’t have their own income or realistically or legally own property. No, it’s just easier to continually abuse someone when their only options are to put up with the abuser or live in poverty for the rest of their life. That doesn’t guarantee abuse, but it was common enough for women to protest and legislate for their ability to make money and own property.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 11:43 PM
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The place your mom lived in was much more progressive than nearly every other location. Being stuck in an abusive marriage was much more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 06:46 PM
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I’ve never seen a benefit to having sex before marriage. Guys who are easy on the eyes never tempted me. Using my body to get money or stability is also abhorrent to me, I worked hard on getting a college degree, improving my skill set and have made a lot of sacrifices so I don’t have to do that ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 11:50 PM
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Yes both of those apply very well. Eggs went from $2/dozen to $10/dozen and that’s just one example. Our atrocious healthcare cost wipes out any savings a person might have, which a lot of young people don’t have to begin with. I’d recommend learning more about this country before making assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 03:13 PM
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It was definitely one of the more fascinating things I learned in history class since I’m wasn’t used to hearing about women’s fighting capabilities. Apparently women might be better than men at using a lightweight gun, but I’m not sure if it’s true. It’s somewhat believable though, women have always been good with long range weapons. Even the ancient Greeks recognized that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 02:14 AM
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I lived with 2 women over the summer in college that did more than 4 guys in 3 months. Women with no/low bc tend to not live with men outside their family so that tracks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 11:44 PM
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Ah yes this elusive stable economy where the majority of people 37 and younger don’t own any property at all and a car accident or incident of cancer will set you up for a lifetime of debt to the medical system. So great to live in a stable economy where the majority of young individuals have zero stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 11:19 PM
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That’s probably the safest bet if you haven’t met them on a respectable dating site, in a bar or club. I can tell you I’ve never once considered signing up for Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 10:53 PM
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Why do you care? You’ve already said you don’t care to meet them, so you don’t know anything about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 10:19 PM
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I’m not sure where to find women with that low of body count That’s by design. Intelligent women with a backbone don’t want to deal with men who expect women to be subservient to them in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 10:12 PM
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The only examples of women being more evil than men were the snipers in the war with the Soviet Union, but that had more to do with the fact that there was more talented with a sniper, smaller and eat less than men so they could hide in tighter crevices for longer durations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:39 PM
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Most men aren’t waiting for signs though. They have to go out there and take initiative to kickstart anything. If you don’t have to, you’re already doing better than most.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 04:05 PM
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Because it’s never productive to do so. Every attempt at doing so goes badly, so you get creative about making the desirable effect happen. I wish being direct ever actually worked for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:41 AM
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No, those tests are useless since having anxiety increases the odds of it showing any of your answers as false.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:55 PM
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No. As much as it sucks, abortion is a separate discussion from having to pay for the kid. Legally the one getting the abortion is 100% responsible including pay for the abortion, so there’s no discussion to be had about fairness. Everybody is responsible for their end. Another point is that and I’m pretty sure most people, don’t want to live with the consequences of men being able to abandon their own kids without being forced to pay for them. That means an increase in poverty and children drop…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:47 PM
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From hookups it’s nearly 0%. The vast majority of women have kids within marriage and marriage rates and much lower among the working class than they’ve ever been, so there’s a direct lnk between the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 08:25 PM
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Birth rates indicate widely that modern women aren’t having kids. A large percentage aren’t even having sex. Child birth is less dangerous now but the permanent issues pregnancy causes haven’t been addressed still and the amount of medical debt you’d accumulate if even the slightest thing went wrong makes it still too risky. Of course some women don’t put much thought into it and just have them anyway but that’s increasingly rare now and confined to communities of very conservative people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:54 PM
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It was very rare in those days though. Natural birth control/abortion took knowledge of the plants around you and access to them. We can’t be sure our pre-human ancestors and early humans even knew about the pull out method. They most likely did whatever felt good without thinking too much about it. Our modern way of building strong relationships including marriage dates back at least 100,000 years of recorded history. Hookups weren’t really in women’s (and the illegitimate children’s) favor unt…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:48 AM
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That’s never going to happen in the US. Employers balk at the idea of having to work with a mom with young kids at all here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 11:50 PM
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I live in a suburb in SoCal. Despite having buses and metros you still need a car to get anywhere in a reasonable amount of time (to use the metro I’d have to drive there and park for example. Everything is too far apart here so you need a car. The guys I’ve dated were gentleman but even then you’re still expected to have a car because you couldn’t really do anything without relying on others driving you (or spending hours on the bus for something that’d be a 20 minute drive).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 11:46 PM
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People making enough money to make a purchase on a single family home in their area, receiving pensions, paid vacations, paid lunch, etc. was all made up, news at 11. This is just sad to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 08:16 PM
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No they weren’t. Pregnancy was more deadly and painful before modern technology so women definitely weren’t risking their life without marriage. My family is from a country that’s still old school and that’s basically what happens. The guy likes a woman so he gets her approval from her family and marries her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 08:07 PM
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All except one guy I dated expected me to find my own way to the location of the date. This is not common anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 08:02 PM
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We could argue that the easiest life is dual income that is high enough to afford helpful services. If you can afford the best childcare/ education/ housecleaning and yard work That’s if they’ve both paid off all the debt necessary to acquire that kind of income by the time they have kids. I’d prefer to be much more realistic and say that working while having a baby that needs to be watched over 24/7 doesn’t really work logistically, which is why the birth rates around the world started to go do…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 07:58 PM
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They’re miserable when their husband isn’t making enough to support a family. If your whole life is about work with no way to entertain yourself or build your own identity because of a serious lack of money, then it’s going to be a bad setup. That’s why there’s the option to have your own income, but that can also bring its own set of problems since the way most jobs are setup, you end up in the same scenario anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 07:47 PM
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Once in a while is fine but not every single time we go out. He needs to have some sort of independence from others to start.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 07:39 PM
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Seems feasible for a trust fund baby to marry a guy above her league. She wants beautiful and healthy kids like anyone would and she doesn’t have to rely on the father to provide for them since she has enough money. She also wouldn’t have to worry about a divorce cleaning her out since had her money long before she got married and most of it is under a trust, so there’s not much of a loss for her in this arrangement. I don’t see how it’d be unnatural.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 11:07 PM
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I’ll check out a nice car but I don’t care much for who’s driving it. Most are gas guzzlers and not worth the insurance premiums you’d have on one. Just have something that gets you from point A to point B without much hassle and isn’t obnoxiously loud. Could be a 90s Corolla. Don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 08:54 PM
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Having a car where I live is a necessity in life because everything is so far apart. If he doesn’t even have a car, how will he meet me to date? Does he expect his mom to drop him off or does he expect me to go to his place to pick him up? No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 08:47 PM
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Not every woman wears her heart on a sleeve with a man she hasn’t gone on a couple dates with, especially if he hasn’t said anything. These guys are just going to be writing off a lot of women who are more anxious in dating or just has strong boundaries with men she doesn’t know well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 08:39 PM
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Kissing someone you don’t really know is also pretty gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 08:36 PM
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I think that the benefit of marrying an older man would have to outweigh the cost that you outlined. Yup exactly. Loneliness in old age is terrible so it would have to be worth going through that later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 08:09 PM
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I’d much rather be spending my last years with someone who’ll likely die at roughly the same age as me. I’ve never actually made a platonic connection with strangers as an adult that stuck, so I’m not confident that’ll change down the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:00 AM
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Marrying someone in old age makes it so much more likely that you’ll be living out your golden years alone. I already worry a lot about how the loneliness will affect me as I get older, so marrying someone much older will just mean more people to grieve over.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 08:26 PM
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The question is only difficult if the man makes enough money to give me and my future kids a comfortable life and actively wants to take care of me. But in any other scenario, I’m fine staying single.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 08:12 PM
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That’s a difficult situation. I’ve spend 6 years lusting after a guy and wanting to marry him badly but he was too busy focusing on other women so at some point I felt I might have to move on emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 03:34 AM
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Now a guy asking to hang out on a dating app implies hooking up not actually getting to know each other. This is why it’s better to meet someone organically. You actually get to know them and then date.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 06:29 PM
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Girls weren’t like this before because guys were more of gentlemen by default, wanted to make the woman they were dating happy and marry her by default. The worlds more brutal and disconnected overall today.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 07:11 PM
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People still do this sometimes, but it’s usually if you meet someone at school, work or through social circles. It’s nice expanding your dating options because you meet different people than the ones in your immediate area and that can be fun. A lot of the guys I dated were much nicer and gentlemen like than the guys that live close by.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 07:05 PM
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Maybe the ones who are young and naive do. But complaints about dating usually stem from nothing working despite being realistic in who they’re dating and the self improvement they’re going through. A lot of women are frustrated just like guys are. Some just have bad luck in dating for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:34 AM
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Women’s complaints are usually solved by don’t date players. If he has lots of dating options, you’re an option. This is your moment to humble yourself and realize that you’re not as special as you think you are to demand the most in demand guys into commitment. I don’t really understand the point of this complaint. If there are any women who are delusional about what they can get, they usually learn with experience and find their match by their mid to late 20s. I think women’s dating problem ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:37 PM
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I don’t disagree with any of that, I’m just listing off the things I’d pick at Build a Man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:49 PM
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Humans have difficulty child rearing because of the large brain our babies have, so yes it’s significantly easier for bonobos. I’ve been fascinated by bonobos ever since watching a documentary on them in an anthropology class. Their appearance, behavior and ability to learn how to perform more complex tasks is eerily similar to humans. They give us a good reflection of what our lives would be like in your scenario. The theoretical scenario pretty much already happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:45 PM
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Even in a world where abortion was fully legal, this lifestyle continuing on over the course of generations would lead to a world where women can’t have kids without putting their lives in danger. This would lead to more committed couple having kids and society circling back to where we are now, because that’s just what works best for our species.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:36 PM
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If you want to see what happens in such a world, look at bonobos. But we are built differently from bonobos so it wouldn’t happen. Pregnancy is still a huge risk. If guys didn’t settle down, th mother of their kids and their kids themselves would be in danger. That lifestyle doesn’t work for a species that needs high commitment to raising kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:37 PM
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Initially it was a religious thing but I continued with that goal after turning into an adult because my attraction to a guy is heavily emotional. I’ve never fallen for a guy just from seeing him or learning about him in a detached way, it’s only happened when he broke down walls and got me comfortable so it makes the most sense to me to save myself for marriage. But what I dislike about some parts of modern culture is heavily that some people think it’s a goal to constantly get a new partner, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:50 PM
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Well I am saving myself for marriage and while I don’t necessarily expect him to be doing the same, I’d much prefer a guy who doesn’t treat sex as a casual thing. I wouldn’t necessarily write off a guy who has though. I do understand a large number of guys do have a very strong spontaneous sex drive so I know it’s not going to be the same experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:56 PM
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Hot, deep voice, highly intelligent, rich, super ripped and strong, has eyes only for me, his only partners were LTRs, marries me quickly and goes out of his way to make me happy. I might be forgetting a thing or two but that just about covers the ideal man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:24 AM
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I don’t necessarily believe that most women use their bodies to land guys out of their league. I think for some women, they decide they want to have sex with him and hope he commits despite the odds. With birth control and possibly legal abortions, the stakes feel pretty low for them so they can make these decisions that would’ve ruined their life in the past. But even that’s uncommon. Women aren’t as conservative about their sexual habits as they were in the past, but that doesn’t mean that mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 11:44 PM
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Most women learn what their options are when they are children, intelligent women learn even younger than average. The women who decide to sleep around do this knowing it’ll get no where with the guy unless they grew up in the wrong environment where nobody clued them in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:24 PM
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People are homeless for all sorts of reasons. People with mental illnesses are so hard to deal with, even a depressed girlfriend can be an effin nightmare. True but some are much more difficult than others. A depressed person will often be negative, unwilling to go out and do things and be avoidant. A person with different kinds of mental illnesses might lash out and break things often. Plus depression and anxiety are relatively easy to treat by a specialist but some mental health issues are ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:08 AM
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I’ve seen a decent amount of attractive homeless women. The reality is if she has so much PTSD or other major mental health issues that she is difficult to be around and can’t hold down a job, men aren’t really going to tolerate her, especially when they live in a really expensive location.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:31 AM
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Guys are worried that the reason she’s behaving like that is that she’s trying to lovebomb him and lock him in before making his life hell. Whereas the prude is behaving in a more natural way towards someone she doesn’t know and trust. She’ll likely treat him just as well if not better once he breaks that barrier.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:31 AM
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Move past it as in stop bothering yourself with what they’re doing and trying to get their attention. The reason they go after the top 20% of men is because they are the 20% most attractive women. You’re wasting your energy chasing after women who’ll just take what you offer and give you nothing in return, same as the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:25 PM
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I understand it, I just think it’s dumb to focus on what the top 20% most attractive women are receiving in life instead of just focusing on improving your own life. Obviously the most attractive people in society will receive what they want in life, just like the rich. That’s common sense. Move past it and live your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 09:44 PM
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Pretty much all the guys I’ve dated and been friends with were average and below average height. The one exception is a friend I’ve had since I was a child but he was the one at my armpit back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 10:29 PM
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Honestly the preference for tall guys is greatly exaggerated. Nobody can deny that women don’t want a guy shorter than them but personally I don’t want a guy who’s much taller either. Being able to see his face at a relaxed position is important since the face of a man you trust is a source of comfort. That’s not going to be as easy if the guy is much taller. There are other ways for a woman to feel small next to a man than him being much taller like having a lot of muscles and being very strong…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:16 PM
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If the guy is crazy into me and wants to make it happen I don’t see why not. Having enough money for 100 retirements doesn’t mean you don’t want to fall in love and build a family naturally. That’s the kind of man I want to have kids with, not someone I’m detached from.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:58 AM
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Life always has ways of throwing curveballs at you. A woman’s husband could just as easily cheat, abuse his wife and leave her while she’s dependent on him. But I think people should take a chance on love even if there’s negative possibilities. Of course it’s up to you to decide that for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:02 AM
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I hate getting out of the house so I can’t relate to any of that. But I still have think if a woman can’t stop flirting with other men while in a relationship the guy should focus entirely on the push part, as in get out of there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 11:29 PM
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No, I enjoy all the advancements in technology and medicine that made that lifestyle possible, even though I absolutely despise that lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:31 PM
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Women are afraid of commitment when you use tricks from the psychopath playbook like “push and pull”. No one wants to commit to someone like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:28 PM
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You don’t have to tell me twice, it’s nearly impossible for me to stop loving someone whether that’s romantic or familial love. As you get older, you’ll lose more and more people that you love, so it’s important to keep the connections you do have as long as they aren’t actively harming you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:30 PM
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How a person behaves is pretty indicative of how the relationship will go in the long term. If they are a pretty stable person, that relationship will be stable. If they are too much of a wildcard, that relationship will probably get rocky at one point. I’ve never seen boring couples get divorced, it’s always the ones where at least one spouse wants attention from everyone and willing to go to great lengths to get it. That could be the wife or husband or even both. That’s why you get to know the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:14 PM
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Thank you for admitting that. Some men do in fact select for women who will ruin their lives. So women aren’t the problem it’s the train wrecks and their bad choices. Your average woman is cringing from afar at these people often with their boyfriend or husband who they are enjoying a nice and peaceful relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 07:55 PM
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Ngl if I was attractive enough to do so I’d probably marry a guy who’d make me a housewife or at the very least gets me enough clout or business connections to get ahead. But we can keep dreaming like the guys who want a girlfriend who’s above their league lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 09:22 PM
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Barstool conservatives, Rogan conservatives, small town working class conservatives, previous model religious elitism Romney type conservatives. I guess elderly people are the peak of attractiveness now lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 06:43 PM
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Sure but a lot of women are intimidated by attractive men and date guys who are much more average. So there’s that perspective in mind. The women dating attractive men are usually very attractive themselves. Some women are ok with being potentially used by them to try and land a relationship but I don’t think that’s what happens on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 02:03 AM
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Maybe fear is a strong word here but it’s always on my mind that a guy might
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:10 AM
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I think it should be done in one of the legal ways given.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 08:25 PM
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The number of women who want to take part in that is much smaller than the number of men, so the few women who do want to take part can afford to be extremely picky about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 08:14 PM
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It’ll go about as well as it did in Poland. Women will just stop pairing up to continue their career trajectory.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 08:05 PM
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Then I’d just go back to playing console games like I did when I was a kid with no internet access.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 08:00 PM
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This is the best answer but also the most difficult one to implement. The rich people running our government aren’t just going to allow this to happen easily. They make too much money causing mayhem for the rest of society. One example is the increase in property values. We’d need them to go back down to pre pandemic levels but property values going down would mean less property taxes collected so they’re obviously not going to allow any legislation that would bring property values down to a lev…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:53 PM
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Mostly just spending more personal time with the other person and get to know them on a deeper level. You’ll realize they’re not that different from you and your friends. They’re also insecure about themselves, afraid of the worst possibilities and burned out from their experiences with dealing with other people both within dating and out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:41 PM
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You could also just double up on birth control and condoms if you have to take antibiotics if you’re against abortion. However most of the women making these kinds of decisions aren’t necessarily against abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:47 PM
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I don’t have any respect for women who have the kid when the father didn’t want them. Not getting an abortion isn’t a badge of pride. They made the life of an innocent person more difficult knowingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:23 AM
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For getting hired at nice offices I believe it. For getting promoted though, it wouldn’t take very long for the CEO to regret making a bad decision in who should be management. That could be the difference between making a good profit and getting a lot of repeat customers and sinking in debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:30 AM
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Watching her get promoted and respected in your workplace because she’s pretty. This is the only thing I disagree with. The women who get promoted are the ones who are above average intelligence and responsible. Running a business these days is too expensive to focus on anything else but the bottom line.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 01:48 AM
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That’s not as uncommon as people think but meeting the women who are like this is the difficult part. Unfortunately women with public social media and online dating are going to have more visibility by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:17 AM
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Love at first sight is amazing when its mutual and that’s not something you ever really forget.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 02:31 AM
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It can go either way in Arab culture. Some moms sabotage their sons like this, but there’s just as many who raise their sons to be responsible gentlemen while also teaching them to be discerning about who they spend their time with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 02:02 AM
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No but I’ve seen the way some boys were raised by their mom or conditioned by their friends. I’ve even argued with one of those boy moms when she was flat out putting down women while hanging out with a bunch of women no less. Difficult to imagine why both of her sons are still single.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 12:08 AM
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Keep in mind in those generations there were also a lot of women whose work was going unnoticed too. Women were doing all the work in the home and with childcare. Being unappreciated and put down when you’re already exhausted for essentially no pay was enough for many to say “you know what, this isn’t worth it” and just get a job in factories to support themselves. Don’t get me wrong there’s plenty of shitty and plain evil women out there in a large numbers I’m sure, but I think the average woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 02:26 AM
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Lol fair enough. I think growing up in a society where you’re conditioned to never ask for you want seriously fucks you up in life and I genuinely believe that’s why we’re having so much difficulty transitioning to a post boomer retirement and aging gen x society. We have an entire group of people 40 and younger who’s been made to sideline themselves and never be direct about anything and it’s preventing them from growing up properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 11:48 PM
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I think guys like this had an upbringing that caused them to believe women should do everything for them and that obviously sabotaged their chances at getting in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 11:06 PM
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This is the way to go. Attractiveness doesn’t last. What do all these guys who marry women for their beauty do when the inevitable happens? I always wonder that, I don’t want to be married to someone who’s only with me for my appearance. That marriage wouldn’t have a foundation to stand on. That’s probably why divorce rates are so high.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 06:43 PM
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War makes everything much more difficult, but I’d be happy to still have him around even if he’s not in one piece.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:44 AM
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Nah I’m good. I need a lot of intellectual stimulation in my day to day life and reading a book written from one person’s perspective and biases just doesn’t do it for me. I’ve already done that in high school and college and I absolutely hated it. If there are some good books though he can share.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:39 AM
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No that’s boring. I use Facebook for playing games too so that’s taking away a source of enjoyment. Also I enjoy using these kinds of websites to read people’s takes on certain topics. If he doesn’t like that I use social media/reddit that way we were never compatible to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:28 AM
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That’s fine too. I might be a late college student too one day for similar reasons. Point is more that he has to be improving himself or actively searching if he was unhappy at his last job or was laid off.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:21 AM
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It’s pretty important in that I’m not dating a guy with no job, but it’s not like I’m deciding who to date based on who has more money either. I look for a guy who loves me a lot first and foremost and then see if he has enough to at least take care of himself or at a minimum going to college for a good degree, but I’m in my late 20s so most likely the guy I date isn’t in college anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:10 PM
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If you’ve ever made the mistake of drinking tap water from a country like Egypt, you’ll quickly realize why nobody wants to spend their life there. In a society where women are beaten down, there’s even less effort being made because the women aren’t contributing anywhere near as much to making the society better. Society is better when all the intelligent and skilled women are able to use their talents and not just raise kids all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 09:24 PM
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Governments in countries with a birth rate of 1 kid per couple are already trying this, but it’s not getting anywhere when the population is complacent and doesn’t really want to put in a real effort. For thousands of years, the standards I mentioned were the norm and in many places men were expected to marry a woman very quickly. So they were successful in building a family because they put actual effort into making the women they were with happy. If a woman is working 8-12 hours a day or more …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 09:15 PM
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The vast majority of men can get a woman, they just have to pursue women in their league and show a willingness to get in LTR and marry eventually and provide for their family. An increasing number of men aren’t putting the right kind of effort for the women they can realistically get, which is women in their league and within 5 years their age. Nobody is going to make things happen for them, they’re going to have to take charge of their life. Starting a revolution because of your own bad decisi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 09:01 PM
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They value different kinds of women at different points in their life. They’d prefer the first when younger since most men don’t want to get married until their late 20s or early 30s. But it’s pretty clear which one is getting the better deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 11:51 PM
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It’s true that people might act out in different ways when severely depressed. I know that since I’ve gone through my own set of problems and have acted out in ways I wouldn’t have otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 07:37 PM
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That’s true, snakes are one of the most terrifying animals that the average person has proximity to, so no shame in throwing a bucket over it and calling a professional.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 06:52 PM
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But that’s not true. There’s a difference between being a human being with a sexuality who occasionally has dirty or even downright depraved desires and acting on it with men you don’t know and being a pushover about it. Plenty of women have the self respect and discipline to not act on that, even if you personally haven’t seen much of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 06:49 PM
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I like picking up insects with a paper and watching them so this is a tough one for me. But a snake or rat I’ll definitely leave to the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 08:27 PM
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Jars hurt my wrist even when I can open them so this is definitely one I’m fine with 😂 The other two are just parts of my personality traits to a point that I had to train myself to contribute ideas with my friend group more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 08:23 PM
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Looks like I’m already ahead because this is definitely stuff I already want to do one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 08:20 PM
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Some of us might end up going through the artificial Darwinian way. My life is already difficult enough as is and it’s already way too crowded where I live, why would I bring kids into the mix? Modern conveniences it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 01:37 AM
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Existence for every organism seems to be rooted in conflict. In our species case, we have a strong desire to build lives and families together but are built to have conflicting interests. It makes our lives more difficult than it needs to be, but at the same time civilizations all over the world wouldn’t have reached the level of impressiveness they have without this natural conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 01:11 AM
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It’s crazy to me the kind of reactions interracial relationships and especially marriages get. Most agree that racism is wrong until people pair up with who they love and then there’s suddenly a problem. I can’t wrap my head around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 09:40 PM
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Women who want to get married need to stand up for themselves instead of assuming the guy wants to marry her because of their age gap. She needs to tell him that if he’s not interested in getting married “right now” then she’s not interested in being with him right now. Close mouths don’t get fed. Stand up for yourself and what you want otherwise any guy would just walk all over you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 07:27 PM
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I’ve never heard of a woman being referred to as a white knight but sure, you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 06:30 PM
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Some do, but unfortunately we can’t wear the truth on our foreheads. You just have to get to know them to learn if they’re that kind of person or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 06:25 PM
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I wish it would so you red pillers would realize how wrong you are and stop making this stupid argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 06:10 PM
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It’s easier for men to find someone to marry than it is for women so that’s not difficult to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 05:52 PM
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Most of my friends are married or engaged. That’s just reality once you turn to your late 20s if you were even remotely serious when younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 05:34 PM
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If you look at the guys I’ve dated since I was 19, it’s mostly average looking and average height or even shorter than average. There were two guys who were maybe rich, but to be fair one of them I didn’t even know about until the actual date and he was the one to insist on continuing to date. I just want to get married before 30. Obviously dating men who have way too many options and don’t show a strong interest in me would make that impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 05:19 PM
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In this case marriage is a compromise that allows both to be happy. The problem becomes when men think they should be able to get what they want from women from a lopsided deal where the women is expected to be vulnerable on very shaky ground. If a guy insists on this, he can focus on finding women who agree with his approach instead of trying to get more traditional women to change their mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 07:10 AM
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you can never trust a woman who wants to immediately walk down the aisle. Depends on your own circumstances. If she’s aware you have a lot of money, it might be a good idea to give it a year or two of getting to know each other. However for the average guy who makes 30-50k a year, there probably won’t be any other reason for her wanting to get married quickly other than love and a boost in status. Married women have more status, especially if they marry a hot or rich guy and are a housewife/SAHM…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:42 PM
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The fact that he openly wants to get married is more important. The amount of money that’s important varies by location but it’s more about whether he makes enough for her and their future kids to feel secure and enjoy life as much as they possibly can. In most places, you don’t need 20 mil in liquid cash for that, but it helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:19 PM
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Yeah of course! Those animals aren’t aware why they’re attracted to those traits, but those reasons are etched into their brains overtime through evolution and natural selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 06:51 PM
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Nah I like being settled into a routine. Life being a little more predictable and having someone to enjoy the little moments with is worthwhile. I never get bored of the people I love in my life so I don’t see why that would be any different in a romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:30 AM
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There’s actually a good reason for the females of a species having a less assuming appearance though. Usually their appearance helps them mitigate risk in ways that makes sense for their species. With lioness, since they are the primary hunters their appearance helps them blend in with the tall grass. With beautiful bird species the females tend to blend in with their surroundings so they don’t give away the location of their young and themselves. The males find them attractive because their app…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 02:26 AM
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But often the things that women find attractive aren’t about physical characteristics at all. If your goal is to get sex without making the kind of commitment the woman you like wants, then yes you’re fighting an uphill battle. Even women who are ok with casual sex often don’t have it unless they feel they can get something important out of it. Many of us feel a natural repulsion to the idea of having sex with a guy we don’t have an attachment to. There was even a point in my life where the idea…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:28 AM
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There’s a difference between wanting to be with a guy who you have at least a little attraction towards and throwing away your dignity to be with a hot guy. Intelligent women I know tend to be in a LTR or marriage more often than not. Of course they’re not exempt from making bad decisions, but no one is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 05:42 AM
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Maybe women who aren’t particularly intelligent would compromise on those things to get a hot guy, but women who are highly intelligent certainly wouldn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 05:14 AM
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Because they think differently than I do? Maybe they like hooking up with guys or don’t mind the idea of being a sugar baby or have any sort of transactional sexual relationships, so their priorities are simply different.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 03:41 AM
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Makes sense. A guys who is hot is simply easy on the eyes, that doesn’t do anything for me. On the other hand, if a man demonstrates that he really loves me through both words and actions including wanting to marry me, showing a strong willingness to be a provider instead of expecting me to pay for everything and had a sweet personality on top that, he’d capture my attention and lust forever and it’d be obvious to everyone around him which may or may not include him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 08:22 PM
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The only “advantage” of being a woman is getting sex more easily. There are no other advantages that aren’t tied to your attractiveness, charisma and wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:44 PM
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Not at all, but it’s easier to assume things about women by looking at them than actually getting to know them. I’ve always had a small group of friends which have moved to other states. Dating has been tough for me and I haven’t had any luck. But some dudes will claim I’m lying because they know more about my life than I do clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:45 PM
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At a young age public perception is really important. It probably doesn’t matter as much once you reach 40, but people at younger ages are more self conscious. If a guy was satisfied with his sex life but his wife always stood at a distance from him, gave off cold body language and wasn’t somewhat affectionate in public to the point where his friends think he’s getting played, it’s going to matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:00 PM
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Attempting to date might feel good Is it supposed to? Dating is exhausting and stressful. That’s one of the appeals to marriage is you never have to go through this bullshit again.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:06 AM
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We haven’t “been there, done that” it’s just that we know a bad deal when we see one. Men want women to be exclusive with him, behave lovingly and give him the look in front of his friends and other men in general to make them jealous and make him feel loved without the promise of marriage or anything worthwhile. At that point it’s better to stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:55 AM
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If you make the assumption that the other person doesn’t need much effort on your part to be happy, that will lead to them feeling neglected and unloved. A lot of young, inexperienced people make the mistake of thinking this and causing a downward spiral.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:08 PM
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As someone with family from a more traditional society I’ve heard plenty of times that keeping a man’s stomach full makes him happy, but that requires marriage and being the sole provider so it’s not common in western societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 06:58 PM
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I don’t know if it’s equal but I think making any assumptions on this is what leads to problem in a relationship and marriage. Making the other feel loved and happy is a constant effort that should be made. If I had to guess who’d need a little more, it’s probably the woman because of pregnancy and child rearing is an exhausting effort, but I think even then it’s important not to lose sight of the goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 06:39 PM
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I’d like to think that’s not common but it might be more common than I think. I’ll just say many of us are still hopeless romantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 05:10 AM
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True, there definitely is social decay that’s growing in American society. It makes me sad for my country.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:59 AM
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Sure men putting women on a pedestal isn’t good necessarily, but neither is men being very paranoid about women either. I don’t think most women are out to take your money in some marriage scheme and leave you in ruins. Yes that happens way more than it should but I don’t think it’s something your average woman is plotting against men. Women want to be taken care of but they also want to love and cherish their man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:13 AM
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Yes at least it seems like it. I’ve had hot and even wealthy men approach me for sex, it doesn’t really mean anything. The guy who dotes on you, is a complete gentleman to you and puts a beautiful lifelong ring on your finger will be the hottest man alive even if he’s much less impressive than those guys on the surface.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:17 AM
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Well pregnancy can be scary for those of us with conditions that may interact badly with pregnancy and put us more at risk. But that’s by far not the only reason. Personally I’ve always been pretty anxious about the idea of my first time having sex and being sexual with a guy. Sex seems scary for a bunch of reasons, but the possibility of pregnancy is definitely the main one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 06:32 PM
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He’s now married with 2 kids and is a stay at home dad. Damn where do I sign up for that? Not having to get up early in the morning and deal with people is the dream. But yeah I’m sure plenty of hot guys only took care of their appearance so they can use as many women as possible who decided to be willing participants in a bad deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 04:13 AM
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It does but it’s more of a gradual process. It’s difficult to say when the feelings go from simple attraction to love, so for many it can feel like it happens quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:48 PM
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It depends what you mean by top option. If a woman is in love with a man she won’t date others because she can’t fall for two at once. However that would require the man to actually bond with her on an emotional level, she won’t just look at a lineup and decide she’s not dating anybody else but one guy based on nothing but appearances. That would be very inefficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:18 PM
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No guy is going to any middle eastern country for casual romantic options. I’m pretty sure it’s the same for China and the majority of the continent of Asia, but I’m less familiar with modern dating practices in China.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:02 PM
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Often. I’m not too picky about who I get in a relationship with and that includes permanent health conditions (I have some too so I cant judge). However it’s mandatory that the guy approaches me. I want to know he likes me enough to approach and ask me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 06:47 PM
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they don’t suddenly mind being alone. You’re in for a surprise then because not all women feel the need to jump in a relationship (or something else) all the time. Being in a good relationship is better than being single but plenty of women are very patient for that. These days there are plenty of distractions from loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 11:52 PM
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My reason for being lonely is simply because I couldn’t find a guy who’s compatible (for example one guy I thought would be a good match wanted 5 kids and I definitely don’t). I gave up on dating and haven’t dated anyone for years. Is my loneliness because of feminism? I don’t think so unless you think women having any sort of requirements or preferences for a relationship is something caused by feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:43 PM
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That’s fair enough. I behave a little differently when I first date someone, but that’s more because of my fear of vulnerability and love I have difficulty getting past.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:41 PM
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Exactly! I’d only trying something if I was into it or neutral about it, but if it seems terrible, there’s no point in doing something I’m not going to get any enjoyment out of. Violent stuff is completely out of the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:24 AM
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I know there’s a big difference between dating and making friends, but even still I find it strange that a lot men have so much trouble dating women with good personalities when I’ve never had any trouble meeting those kinds of women. Makes me think something is driving away those women away.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:01 AM
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Women don’t want to approach or chase men. Women put an overwhelming amount of effort into their appearance and personality so they won’t ever have to be the one taking the initiative. It just doesn’t feel natural. Look in the wild, it’s always the male animals trying to go after a female even when they have a lot of options. The opposite happens but it’s rare and an individual thing on the female animal’s part.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 01:44 AM
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There’s a lot that goes on behind the curtains. That’s why women were having 12 kids before birth control. Women who are LTR oriented will show some appropriate displays of love in public, but never more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 08:11 PM
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We will, just not in public view. That’s why it seems that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:02 PM
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No strings attached, so casual sex or short term relationships and other types of arrangements where women will have sex with men without the expectation of love or marriage or anything substantial.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:43 PM
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The odds of that actually working out are really slim, even if your self improvement is substantial enough to compete with other guys. The ratio of women who want nsa sex to men who are chasing after it is really low.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:41 PM
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If you’re self improving to get NSA sex, you’re wasting your time. The number of women who are open to having sex without love is a really small percentage and most of the time the guys getting casual or short term sex are good looking and very rich men who actually have the time to focus on that. However even those men have a lot of competition for the few women who are ok with this kind arrangement and a lot of the time they can’t get the women they actually want to be with. High quality women…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:52 PM
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Women won’t do this as an organized movement but more as risk-vs-reward assessment. They won’t give it a political-sounding name like 4B and will instead call it “living for themselves”. It’s basically a coin flip whether a young woman I meet is single or not. A lot of women are already choosing to focus on making as much money as they can and nothing else. I imagine that number will grow if more laws pass that threaten women’s livelihood since women are overall more risk adverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 03:29 AM
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I’m pretty sure these are just bots designed for engagement, but obviously that’s not ok and a very bitter way to put that. It’s ok to have a preference but it’s not ok to push it onto other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:50 PM
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Being chased is reserved for very attractive women or women who come from wealthy backgrounds, but there’s a difference between a guy being the one to approach and make his intentions clear initially and being actively pursued. I personally don’t want to be actively pursued, I’d rather a guy just behave naturally, ask my number/social media and message me from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:43 PM
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The general rule is at least 3 inches taller than her, so at your height you should be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:09 AM
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That’s always been the case for casual sex and short term relationships. Marriage traditionally requires the man to initiate it while women patiently wait on it, so that’s usually in men’s control with few exceptions. Women just don’t really have the sex drive men have, in general. We’ve evolved to be picky since we have high mortality rates in pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 05:26 AM
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The vast majority of women aren’t going to be able to match men in this regard. The best a guy can do is be attractive to her and behave in whatever way makes her hot and bothered.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 03:03 AM
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