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Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:53 PM
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Literally just comes down to social dynamics and societal roles/expectations. Speaking as one of these passive men. Is it "fair"? No, but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:52 PM
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I don't find myself attracted to 95% of women. Doesn't mean I don't still perceive them as women. Perhaps you mean men with options since they would have that given freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:59 AM
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Following as one of these men. Downvoted for not having female friends. Lol cannot make ts up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:03 PM
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This reads like absolute larp lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:48 AM
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Placate? We're talking about literal children from adolescence to teenaged years here lol. Any who, you clearly never were debating from a point of genuine good faithed discussion with a condescending response like that. Have a good one!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:53 PM
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Brother, you are literally aro-ace. You are the answer to your own question.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:24 PM
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IDK if I'm just misunderstanding, but people from grandparents, to parents, to random strangers, tell kids both boys and girls growing up "Oh, you'll make so and so such a happy wife/husband some day" and other generic assumed given platitudes all the time. I'm not even co-signing what OP is saying. I just think this response isn't the most accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:57 PM
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Another misnomer. Romantic Relationships are not a substitute for Platonic Relationships and vice versa. This also goes for relationships of all kinds, which really shouldn't even need explanation, but I digress. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:40 AM
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I'd say the existence of various sexual/romantic orientations and spectrums obviously disproves this notion, but we're clearly coming from foundationally opposite perspectives, so no point in any further debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:45 AM
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TY and I would argue other wise. Anyone looking to eradicate libido is someone that struggles more specifically with the lack of intimacy side of things that typically come with the ability to formulate romantic or purely intimate relationships. Which is why I made the comparison between those that frequent escorts and virginity. Getting rid of libido does nothing to solve the lack of companionship like another user mentioned. I say this as someone that identifies as being on the ace spectrum so…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:22 AM
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That would not solve the cusp of the problem for most. Not too unlike how people recommend later age virgins to just visit escorts and "get it over with".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:04 AM
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I personally wouldn’t care, but that might be a bit biased coming from a 🧙‍♂️.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:49 AM
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These things are not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:30 PM
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You realize most of us only hate ourselves, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:29 PM
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Did I hint at any such thing? I'm saying it's a weird comparison because the cause of mortality are leagues apart under vastly different circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:22 AM
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Still not a good focal point never mind the comparison itself is weird. Peak GWOT was the 00s till about the mid 10s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:21 AM
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Not the best example considering the boots on the ground effort concluded with the GWOT in 2021. That’s discounting SOF efforts that continued combatively in the years following too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:02 AM
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Even if this is larp, high probability aside, it's interesting how a certain subset of individuals tend to near always take up issue with these sort of posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:14 AM
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My bad, you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:47 PM
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She's referring to the men that register in the female gaze. Not the majority remaining lot that are just regular, average, or even worse, below average dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:33 PM
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I think for some of us that would just worsen our state of minds in the long term depending on which way we lean in terms of romanticism of course. By us, I mean those that struggle in general if not outright have absolutely nil experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:57 PM
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The men (NPCS) upset about said outcomes and the men (Perceived Characters) utilizing these strategies are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:41 AM
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2,700 =/= 4.14 billion. You might need remedial, gang. Deleted the original rebuttal after I hit the frame perfect party and downvoted me. Now that’s comedy. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:41 AM
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2,700 is significant enough of a portion size to then come to this very same conclusion for 95% of all men? That’s news to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:00 AM
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Coming to this conclusion off such a meager sample size even as ragebait (giving the benefit of the doubt) is about as unhinged as it gets. Even here of all places.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:55 AM
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Speaking as one of these demi men, I don’t think men on the spectrum are even considered as sexual beings in the first place. Most people don’t even know wtf demi or all the other umbrella terms under and adjacent to asexual are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 11:33 PM
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Respectfully, if this is what you believe and all your friends believe/notice, it comes down to the typical case of all men that register on y’alls perceived spectrum aka not the NPCs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 11:53 PM
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TY and ditto <3
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 09:12 PM
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My older brother handled that and my younger brothers will likely do the same. So in regards to lineage no it's not all that pressing. I mean my mom had mentioned wanting more grandchildren like once before, but I'm pretty sure she came to the realization that's not something I'm capable of especially with my known disorders. So I personally don't let myself feel all too bad about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 09:06 PM
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I don’t have nor will I probably ever have the career to financially facilitate one so in that aspect it’s probably for the better. Not being able to enter a relationship at all definitely sucks though. As a huge understatement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 08:53 PM
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Correction. I’ll have you know I have not even managed to get so far as a date. ☝️🤓
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 02:01 AM
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You realize men on the ace spectrum exist, right? Granted they’re obviously not the majority, but your entire post was worded from an absolute objective perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 10:15 PM
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Yes, I most definitely chose to have AVPD. Lol whole possibility for debate went out the door at introversion is a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:45 PM
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It might be a little bit presumptuous, but assuming they're anything like me, most of these same men doing the "complaining" have not even so much as gotten within breathing distance of a romantic relationship...ergo their mental state of affairs, and it shouldn't need to be stated, but that doesn't mean they haven't had or do not currently possess the rest of the aforementioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:20 AM
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The fact you posted this in the mensrights sub before here of all places makes this even weirder. Not sure what the goal is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 06:53 PM
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I’m not going to contest the bit concerning your bias and anecdotal evidence.
/r/MensRights21/04/26 11:39 AM
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Because you made a gendered difference based on loneliness. The way in which masking is received in the first place is inherently different.
/r/MensRights21/04/26 11:32 AM
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The ways in which masking is effectively applied and received varies greatly in men and women lol. Don’t even know why I’m responding to this in a serious manner.
/r/MensRights21/04/26 11:23 AM
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I've done that as well. The issue is those men are either just like me or have been met through my hobbies which are primarily male dominated. I don't think there's really any solution as far meeting women is concerned. Hasn't worked in the past in the few instances I have tried, but as far as avoidance is concerned, for sure it at least works with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 07:54 PM
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Been there done that with the military physique. Didn’t get too much attention back then online. More than now ofc. However, even then AVPD made it impossible to transition that in anyway to the real world. As for in person, it didn’t make a single difference. I’ve never been good with trying to befriend women. But who knows, maybe I’ll try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:18 AM
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I think I get what you mean, but I disagree since it's core to my personality either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:56 PM
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Thanks, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:55 PM
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Brutal realization, but yeah, you’re right.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:18 AM
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Incapable how? My question was based off your assumption that women would then decide to go for the leftovers. Never mind the fact that both men have zero reason to do what you suggested in addition to said women would not suddenly become attracted to the men they’re already not interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:48 AM
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I somewhat was because you decided to dodge my perfectly good question based off your own supplied reasoning with a deflect of a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:26 AM
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So you’re claiming your own original question is wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:19 AM
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Current empirical evidence based off the framing of your question lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:16 AM
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Ion mind, but yeah lol not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 04:25 AM
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Black/Filipino. Yeah, it’s a very contradictory sounding disorder I know. Especially with bipolar since typically the eccentricities of that disorder tend to attract people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 04:24 AM
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Oh yeah nah I gotchu on that. Just think it’s some crazy leap to a conclusion if that’s how they think it would go.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 04:13 AM
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Without getting into lookism specifics, I just don’t have any conventionally attractive facial facets at all. On top of race, but I don’t like to use that as a crutch. Just not white. I’ll say that. Avoidant Personality Disorder, Bipolar 2, Autism Spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 04:01 AM
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I’d say that’s some wishful thinking since even average men are considered a net loss with OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:51 AM
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I don’t meet the looks threshold to even do avg with online dating. I’d rate myself a 4 maybe 5 on the 10 point scale. Which even then is being generous since I consider the middle to be the average point. I don’t meet the social skills threshold due to AVPD, BP2, and Aspie debuffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:50 AM
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Online: Appearance Offline: Neurodivergency.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:27 AM
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Hypothetically speaking, what would men not hogging all the women do about said women only being attracted to that subset of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:14 AM
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I like to chime in on the inkwel adjacent topics that not many can relate to let alone even imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:57 PM
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The kind that aren’t interested in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 10:53 PM
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I forget the exact verbiage, but essentially getting off the apps in current day was equated to, just because you took yourself out of the competition doesn't mean you're not still in the race.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:21 PM
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Nope, I actually read your post in full. I just opted to go off the initial headline since it was a direct contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:46 AM
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Not at all what I said or implied. I was getting at the ability to have a dating life in the first place and not all the detriments that may or may not come with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:38 AM
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Well if we’re solely addressing the realms of dating it could be argued they objectively do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:31 AM
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No, thank you. More power to those that works for though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 05:15 AM
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Yes. Yes to sympathy no to empathy. Much more difficult to do the latter over the former. TBF though you could substitute this question with that of the avg man in mind and my answer would be the same. As for the reasoning I'd like to think I understand it completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:11 AM
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As with many of these notions, one has to pass a certain looks threshold for this to work on its own. Speaking as one of many of these types of man that has practically never shown any outward interest in women and does not talk much to begin with. Anyone that does not already know this must inherently be the extroverted, outgoing, loud/talkative type.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:13 PM
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Is it really “giving up” for those that didn’t have much of a chance to begin with? I ask this because back in the day you’d have people that claim the MGTOW label, but were clearly “sent” their own way. In which case not much change is taking place if there wasn’t any real choice from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 04:51 PM
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Disagree with how overdramatic this is worded, but also think the majority of replies thus far are either very ignorant or disingenuous to just how much emphasis society and social norms/expectations places on male inexperience in this field.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 04:44 PM
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Agree for the most part. Facial bone structure however is very genetic dependent. Even at my lowest BF% I didn't have a defined jawline or lower third in general. Likely due in part to my mixed SEA genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:17 PM
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Personally, I think everyone should express some baseline level of sympathy (like respect) for plights of all kinds, but I know that's beyond the scope or even care of most people's capabilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:39 PM
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Nah, even being me I'm cool with being a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 06:18 PM
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Yeah, forgot to mention the AVPD too so it cancels out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:52 PM
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I mean yeah sure I'd agree if I presented myself in my immediate environment the exact way I do online. If anything I'm one dimensional. My co-workers have consistently chimed in on never seeing me get upset or stressed. Hell, they've asked me if I can remember the last time I've ever cried or genuinely gotten angry at something before. My robotic tendencies are actually why I tend to be appreciated wherever I work. Point being, just because I voice something that may come across as negative on …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:07 PM
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Not sure it's one primary thing. If I wasn't bipolar, I'd likely still be autistic. If I wasn't autistic, I'd likely still be below average. It's really all substitutable for one another. I agree with the formula it's just the odds significantly multiply out of favor when so many drawbacks stack on top of each other. That doesn't even begin delve into the intricacies of lookism relative to location either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:30 PM
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👋🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:03 PM
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Generally speaking I agree. Just for me I don't have the mental wherewithal to keep trying. Too much to make up for with improbable odds to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:46 PM
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Normally don't even entertain back and forth on the internet this long. Especially, not the type that are purposely antagonistic off rip. Make better use of your time and have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:44 PM
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Reading comprehension. Give it a shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:35 PM
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Yes, been did. As in, I no longer do and not because it "didn't work" as your condescending reply implies. To genuinely answer you for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:32 PM
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You have a point. In my case though, I was still 180lbs at the aforementioned height and I was "gifted" with a wide frame. Can't really recall the last I've ever been skinny like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:31 PM
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Easily. I was 12-14% at one point @ 5'10". Credits to Uncle Sam. Forgot to mention the <7 min mile for bonus braggadocious points.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:07 PM
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If you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:06 PM
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Gym: Been did that. Socialize: Been did that. Groom/Dress: Been better than most for years. Career: Dead End. Can't say anything worked, but I also cannot say I'm like most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 07:45 PM
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I was just about to allude to the same thing. Are we talking about men as a conglomerate or the men that register on the visibly perceived spectrum aka not NPCs?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:46 AM
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Does this account for the NDpilled or nah? Serious question.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 02:05 AM
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I'm going off the implied metric presented here with ease of access for women in contrast to their male counterpart. It's all encompassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:19 PM
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If we're taking it at face value, I'm not sure we should be using OLD as the metric...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:12 PM
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I’d argue he undermined it more by mentioning being in said relationship for 11 years. Entirely different market.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:42 AM
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An old therapist of mine essentially tried to explain how she thought this was the default state most people had and was normal. Following my disclosure of identifying with demisexuality, so you might be onto something here. Even if I still don’t entirely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:41 PM
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If by choice, I’m sure it probably is. Although, I’d still argue that point is debatable given the current state of the economy in the west at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:46 AM
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This is a point that often gets ignored on both sides of this argument for some reason. From both those who lack experience and those with that are making suggestions like the post here. Doesn't make the slightest of sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:02 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:45 AM
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My XP with photography is primarily portraits. That's without even adding on my decade+ of XP with GFX playing a part. Used to do photo manipulations and commissions in my free time for others. NVM also having a solid sense for fashion, but I digress. You're likely right about the honesty aspect as that's the vibe I got. My main point was photography isn't going to do much if anything for most guys that are already putting in effort in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:25 AM
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It's funny how often the "professional photography" take gets brought up. Anecdotal, but as a mere hobbyist that's more than capable of taking photos for myself as well as CC'ing them w/ touchups, in my experience I found it had very little affect. Even had a buddy's sister offer to critique my profiles up until she saw them and ultimately had nothing to add. OFC guys should put in effort, but simply put, some just got it and more and more don't with each passing day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:13 AM
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Even though I'm a 1%'er there's still a level of relatability shared here + I like to share my input/experience on subject matter that most cannot relate to in the slightest with being a 🧙🏾‍♂️.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:42 PM
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Now imagine being neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:30 PM
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They still spouting the LEARN how to be attractive in the big twenty twenty six 😂. Couldn’t make ts up if you tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:13 PM
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These are two entirely different groups of men...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 08:45 PM
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Bro stay preaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:15 PM
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W heads up. I wasn’t aware of this. Very interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 09:41 AM
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I'm not the one that needs to be answering this question, but it brings up one of my own. What's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:14 PM
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Precisely my point, but I'm terrible at conveying my thoughts without overemphasizing on the primary matter of discussion. Like speaking as one of those dudes I can't really compound on zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:01 AM
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Is there a so called "chopped epidemic" or are most people just average and our ideas of beauty standards have been heavily influenced by ever evolving pop culture in combination with the infinite reach the internet provides?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:51 AM
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I'm more so passing judgement on the regulars I've seen this place draw along with neighboring subs and also highlighting the fact that anyone that needed to hear this in the first place was merely lacking in self-awareness. On top of also likely not being a terminally online individual that would regularly frequent this sort of place aka not here to hear it in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:43 AM
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for fewer better successes This is where you lose 90% of this sub and those whom this advice is directed at.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:12 AM
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Lol I have negative interest in escorts, but more power to those that do, and the SWs that happily facilitate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:23 PM
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No. As evidenced by my flair. Aware and that’s the extent of that. My opinion on RP is mixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:14 PM
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I also can't grasp the incel culture saying men are "involuntary celibate" but defining it as "men can't have sex". Speaking from the inside looking out, this is a point of contention that gets misconstrued by those it does not affect. Which in their defense is understandable given the definition of the word, but it's more so used as a catch-all umbrella term by those that identify with the label. Involuntary is meant to emphasize the inability to formulate intimate relationships of all kinds. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:01 PM
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men used to feel deep shame about not being able to succeed romantically These things aren't mutually exclusive. You think we're elated to be in the situation to even discuss this in the first place lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:30 AM
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The bit about being alone is a choice. How does an objective statement even get downvoted lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:11 PM
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As I will continue to spout on posts like this, relationships of all forms are a two way street requiring equal reciprocation at bare minimum, and no this is not excusing the latter half of your statement regarding manipulation before this reply gets misconstrued.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:10 PM
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I really don't think there's anything to be debated here. Speaking as one of those men too. It's a lived experience that's unfathomable for most normal/average everyday and above individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:00 AM
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Following. 👀 For obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:58 PM
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Well as far as the inkwel "community" is concerned we have always referred to it in definition by normative neurotypical means. Meaning the inability to establish an intimate and/or romantic relationship and everything that comes together along with all that period. Some do frequent SW, but that doesn't discount or negate the community understood definition of the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:02 PM
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Of the few inpatient and outpatient stays I’ve had and women I came to meet with my times there, that first point is especially true. Rarely ever met any single women in those spaces of all places and in the few instances I did it was very short lived. We’re simply playing entirely different games altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 10:54 AM
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I appreciate the honest answer for once.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 10:18 AM
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Just checking in for the future comments on this one. Should be interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 10:09 AM
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Again, much like OP this doesn’t address my question, but thank you for the reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 10:06 AM
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And what of the men I mentioned? The ones that I highlighted and put in said effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:23 AM
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Effort does not always equate to results. Sometimes these things simply just don't pan out. Of course that doesn't mean these men/men like me should not try, but the lack of a favorable outcome does not mean they have not and to continue to ask them to do so is very mentally tasking for those that have not been there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:00 AM
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As a neurodivergent below average male I don’t see much of a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 12:27 AM
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Gon fall on deaf ears, but ofc I’ll cosign this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:24 PM
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Yes. Source: I’m living it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 12:14 PM
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Already have and not out of desire for attention. I just wear lots of rings at work to begin with. Hasn’t made a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 12:07 PM
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I won't contest that point, but I just don't think the two are synonymous in that specific regard. The former can't find expressing love to be annoying if they haven't had the opportunity to practice it in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 08:27 PM
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Why are the men that can’t get with women at all in their entirety being conflated with the men that struggle with dating and women altogether? Going based on verbiage used.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:51 PM
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Personally, IDC about the V card thing, but it objectively by in large is a big deal as far as inexperience and societal norms is concerned. So I understand why my compatriots feel a lot of pressure in that department.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 06:32 AM
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I can certainly, safely, and anecdotally say no women in my immediate day to day life are interested in me. Really isn't that hard as a passive neurodivergent and below avg male. The downvote with 0 rebuttal tells me this is apparently difficult to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:09 AM
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It's also simultaneously if not more so easier to go unnoticed by women. Just takes a bit of passivity and/or not significantly standing out in the few instances where attempts are made.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:05 AM
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About to be 31. As was later stated, the normality has shifted with Gen Z, but even when I was coming up I didn’t feel late was approaching until the mid 20’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:06 AM
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Lol 19 isn't late. Wasn't even late back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 08:18 PM
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Unfortunately, I cannot just unlearn my 🧩 and AvPD as that is quite literally in the name. In fact, I’m certain I’ve hit my ceiling after years of therapy and self-improvement, but if it were so simple believe me, I would love nothing more than to just be a neurotypical average everyday human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 06:09 PM
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This is an entirely different tangent so I don't have a counterpoint to this, but yes I see the issue here in this random example.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 01:06 AM
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Victim Complex? There's men that genuinely do not make it past the initial meet and greet stage with women. Assuming they approach or even get opportunities to try and make basic acquittances with women in the first place. You seem to be implying they get shots from time to time at one point or another and just routinely mess things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 12:43 AM
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Giving chances implies going further than an outright shutout that is rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 12:30 AM
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How are people simultaneously giving chances to someone that has only ever known rejection? Serious question based on your wording.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 07:29 PM
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Nope, never got any sorts of talks beyond my mother very briefly expressing the want for more grandchildren, which my older brother already has covered.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 10:17 PM
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Posts like these are exactly why no one knows wtf the male loneliness epidemic is allegedly supposed to be about. With all due respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 08:49 PM
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I don't think this comparison works either for two main reasons. One, I would never pay for a "gourmet" date off rips as what I believe was implied. That would be reserved for someone that I've built up a repertoire with. Secondly, your average man pretty much has to pay for any form of date in the initial stages if we go off still existing social norms. That's to be expected regardless. Where as with the comparison you're drawing, no woman has to sexually entertain any man until she sees it dee…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:37 PM
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The only issue I see with this comparison is it's not an equivalency that makes sense to me in the first place. One is an outright shutout and the other occurs well after a foot has been set thru the doorway, but I don't have a dog in this fight so I fully expect to be corrected.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 08:52 PM
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Fixation on a specific individual in brief terms. Often aligning with limerence.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 06:29 PM
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By 25 is a good spot to draw a line in the sand as that’s around the age where it can be reasonably explained away by college/upbringing. By my age you’d have to get extremely lucky with a not only coming across a patient and understanding woman, but also one that will entertain you for the whole nine. At least for any male living in the westernized world.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 06:21 PM
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It's definitely as they say. Regret can be a scary thing, but for those that have the self-awareness, it can just as equally be a serious motivator. Good on you for getting after it!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:19 AM
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Not much of an artist anymore, but appreciate the notion! It's not a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:15 AM
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Initially, her appearance ofc. Like I said I don’t find myself attracted to very many women. I can recognize and acknowledge conventional beauty, but it’s rare I come across any woman I personally feel drawn to that I would like to get to know. Beyond that she was real easygoing, very sociable, not difficult to talk to, just all around down to earth. She was also the first woman who really gave me the time of day outside of just mere convenience or solely due to being in a same shared space. Ano…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 02:41 AM
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Not sure what you mean by lie, but it’s the closest I’ve ever gotten to a relationship and I don’t often find myself attracted to women in my day to day in the first place. Nor am I ever on any form of terms with women to begin with. Never mind thinking it was all actually reciprocated.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 12:52 AM
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No, I try to minimize the potential for lived regrets. In that instance I just needed an answer either way for typical closure reasons. Those on the outside looking in will understandably label me melodramatic, but the only thing I resent is nothing else has come remotely close to fueling that same sense of passion and drive. Doubt anything ever will.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:43 PM
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I’ll answer the third tier since that applies to me. Closest I can say is I have never felt more alive and purposefully driven than when I delusionally thought I had a real chance with my oneitis. That includes typical milestones such as chasing and finishing out my degree as well as my time in service. Everything else since has just been getting by because it’s what’s expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:27 PM
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Nope. You and me both.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 04:02 AM
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You ain't ask, but Ima co-sign this anyways as one of the subjects in question.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 09:25 PM
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Sorry love, as I stated in another comment, I personally don't care about the label itself and/or my personal lack of sexual experience. Thanks though!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 09:12 PM
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Couple things wrong with that logic. For one, I don’t even care about my own virginity and the perceived stigma behind it. I just care about integrity with being as upfront as possible with people. Second to that, I’m demisexual to begin with. Seeing an escort has absolutely no appeal or benefits for me. Last, but not least, that isn’t a solution for these sorts of men that will “correct”the mindset aiding in why these lot are in this situation to begin with. It’s more than just an oh the opport…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 02:48 PM
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You’re definitely not wrong. Personally, I don’t plan on ever lying not that I think I’ll even ever remotely get that far with anyone, but I’m inching closer and closer to the it is what it is pill for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:25 PM
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Well of course. I think all of us rational folk can agree with that. That said, the purpose of bringing this aspect to light is to bring attention to the fact that it’s a real and previously proven possibility. Especially as those numbers of those that fit the narrative begin to increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 12:03 PM
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And yet none of those things in any way, shape, or form subtract and/or minimize from any individual's lived experiences regardless of 3rd party perception on how severe a case they may appear to be. GG. You got a response out of me this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 07:10 PM
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Co-signed. Tired of my below average culture being appropriated. 😤
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 11:38 AM
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Not in the slightest lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 09:00 PM
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Resident wizard checking in. How’s it going?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:18 PM
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Which is why I don't even consider that late blooming anymore. Outside of regular undergraduate age, sure, even then that can still be explained away by fixation on academics. Closer to the 30s is when it gets far more challenging if not by majority improbable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 08:55 PM
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Relationships in all forms are a two way street...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:43 AM
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Stating the dating market is not any worse either which way for men or women is the most unhinged part about all this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:00 AM
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Yes. So long as they actually want to be with me. Next question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 09:50 AM
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I don’t think I fully follow this post speaking as one of these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:41 AM
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I think he more so is referring to the fact that its an iconic film easily recognizable from its time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:39 PM
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No, thank you. More power to those it works for though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 07:51 PM
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I wouldn't say it's something else entirely since romance is one of what I would consider the primary driving forces in life itself, but I would certainly agree they're looking for something altogether. This post is actually decently inline with what we discuss in the FA and Inkwel spaces that most NTs don't tend to realize if they have not had to go w/o for a significant stretch of their existence and I'm not referring solely to love when I say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 09:40 AM
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Never mind everything else. Labeling it an intelligence test is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:13 PM
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As an inkwel, how am I being worked exactly?
/r/MensRights31/07/25 08:35 AM
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Smartest comment here. Thank you for bringing the sensible mind to the discussion!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:34 PM
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No thank you, but more power to those who would find this fulfilling enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:40 PM
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I don't understand the message being conveyed here in regards to the loneliness epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 02:00 AM
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I've been on Tumblr since 2014 and still use it quite frequently. On that same note I am still an inkie since that very same time frame. In fact, the one time a woman on there reached out to me and tried to get to know me she immediately removed me after learning what I looked like lol. Still, not the worst advice. Would have been better in the mid to late 2010s though imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 02:46 AM
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The illusion of incentive has been deconstructed.
/r/MensRights24/07/25 08:19 AM
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Did the whole therapy thing for 5 years. Personally, I really enjoyed it as a man, but it's definitely not for everyone and I don't even recommend it in most cases as I take the presumed mindset of an American that doesn't like the system we have in place taking advantage of my fellow Americans.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 07:15 AM
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Co-signing as an ND male before others may or may not get around to trying to counterargue this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:14 AM
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I no longer try, but when I did it was a combination of being demi + BP2 and quite likely autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:28 AM
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Most sensible comment I’ve seen here in a min.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 07:57 AM
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Thanks, twin! I’m cured. TS never gon bother me again. 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:08 AM
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Ignorance perhaps. IDK. I'm not all men and I don't believe I know any men that would reinforce that notion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 09:50 PM
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I'll provide my obligatory answer of an additional, no, just so we've covered all pilled and social class bases. No, for multiple reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 09:31 PM
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Hello! Is this thing on?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:37 PM
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Of course. Not to say that I haven't in the past. I just rarely have since I don't often find myself attracted to any women in my day to day and in the few times I have it has not been a success.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:26 PM
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Thanks I think and nah. I don't care about sex like that. More so the relationship aspect and everything else that comes along with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:25 PM
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Co-signed. Never had anything formulate from simply not trying and I've been doing that the majority of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 09:38 AM
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Yeah, you must be an older milllenial then. Can't say I've ever known any guys like that and I've been in theses spaces for a decade. I do agree that self-investment can make things easier, but nothing externally is guaranteed to come from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:55 PM
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How do you figure? Genuine question since you stated you've never had struggles in this department. Which would imply you can't comprehend the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:04 PM
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Never. Might appreciate their beauty, but that's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 09:06 PM
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Generally speaking people are motivated by extrinsic factors such as the ones you listed or by ones that correlate such as personally driven passions whether that be their career fields or hobbies of interest. Take those away and most would struggle to see the point in doing anything more beyond the bare necessities for survival such as holding down a basic job that supports a roof over the head. Now speaking from personal experience I would co-sign this conjecture, but I'm just one individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 08:46 PM
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And that was precisely my point from the beginning. As I also aforementioned. To outright claim the male loneliness epidemic has entirely to do with the lack of a local social support network via friendship is also just as if not an even greater wrong. It's brought up entirely as a counterpoint and usually also done so in bad faith as demonstrated from the few replies I've received here. NVM the actual OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:44 PM
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Then why are there are people in relationships with whole families that express feelings of loneliness?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:33 PM
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Loneliness is not confined or fall under a preset based upon the mere style of relationship. e/ Objectively stating there's different forms of loneliness is now apparently a controversial take. This sub funny asl sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 06:39 PM
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That's seriously how you define loneliness? Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 06:11 PM
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It’s funny how the presumption a majority of the time this topic is brought up, is made from a point of men primarily being friendless, and that it’s a suitable substitute even if said men do struggle with other forms of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:51 PM
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It's times like this when I gotta remind myself the substance of the post isn't aimed at men like me and then I feel recentered and at peace again.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 05:28 AM
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The match rate on Tinder for the average man was something in the one percentile range. I don't recall exactly because it's bee a minute since I've personally been on there and it's been months if not a year at this point since the creator of TinderData switched the sub over to approved posts only. Based on this logic 99% of men are glaring misogynists and racists.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 11:58 PM
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Smartest answer here 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 08:02 PM
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You're speaking from a point of absolutes though. Just because a dude might get lucky once does not mean he's on the up and up from there on out. At that point in time? Sure, of course, but that does not coincide with the original post. That which being from a more chronic standpoint. Which was my whole reasoning for even stating it "could be" a singular event. That's not to say I don't disagree with your point though. I do think most dudes will eventually luck out and roll into a more normative…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:27 PM
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This just accounts for what could be surmised as a singular event though. OPs post is aimed at a more lifelong extended circumstance.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:49 PM
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Being able to tell it's a windmill post before clicking will never not be funny to me. To answer the question though, no. I don't perceive myself as the type women would like to receive compliments from nor do I want to risk a simple gesture working against me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:31 PM
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It's heartache either way. It's just a matter of determining for one's self which is the more bearable of the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:42 PM
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I never expect any different, yet for some reason I can't help but stop by these threads whenever they pop up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 05:43 AM
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Yes and No. Appreciate the condolences and discussion!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:59 PM
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Correct! Ironically didn’t “go” to college either. I mean I did the community thing, but social dynamics is different there. Couldn’t do university since it was too expensive so ended up finishing out my degree online.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:50 PM
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Yeah, I tried to reintegrate for a semester in Junior year, but I was too far gone atp.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:41 PM
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Think I check off a few of these; BP Type 2, Homeschooled from 14-18, and had a psych tell me I might be ever so slightly off the spectrum. To answer the gist of the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:34 PM
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Just wanted to say I appreciate this comment as one of these men. A leaning asexual one at that. Felt like that should be highlighted since outsiders tend to presume all any of us care about is sex. e/ They downvoted him for going against the common narrative. 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:20 PM
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This implies trauma is not also incurred from multiple attempts at trying and failing over and over again.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:14 PM
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JW to go against the grain of others that have replied to your comment and say I know men of all types that do and don't fit these molds that are both virgin and non-virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:21 PM
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Professional streamer tier setup. Good shit man!
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