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AWALT is a generalization not meant to describe everyone. I think about it more in terms of any woman can be like that and that’s enough for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 03:25 PM
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Don’t swim where other men have drowned.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 10:46 PM
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...pouring oil on your motor.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/05/20 03:28 PM
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For me it depends on the setting. If a woman is crying over something relatively minor at work I shy away. If it’s someone I know personally I wouldn’t behave that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 06:10 PM
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Probably. Imagine if you had a woman who was willing to come by once every week or two and let you blow her back out. Even if you were looking for a relationship with her you would get confidence from the fact that she was willing to be intimate with you and spend time with you. Such is the relationship with the 49er and Chad/Tyrone/Abdul/Enrique/Nguyen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 05:38 PM
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Feminism struck first and has political and media power. Enough power to successfully erroneously label the MRM as a hate group with no mainstream pushback.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 05:33 PM
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If the goal is to bring back marriage and families then traditionalism is the only thing that works. Men at work women at home so that each needs one another and they have to decide individually to fill their own role for the good of the family. Right now neither needs the other and both are being influenced to be unattractive by getting away from masculinity and femininity for men and women, respectively. This leads to our current situation where men and women don’t want or need each other. Res…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 05:31 PM
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I think the idea is that women are culturally pushed to be masculine and men are supposed to man up and accept that nonsense. That’s what feminism tells women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 05:27 PM
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I think "appropriate" might be defined differently by the average man and average woman. I think it is okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:46 PM
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Right on. Sounds similar to my life approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 02:03 PM
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Serious question about incels. What is the purpose of using them as a punching bag? One thing I like about MGTOW (which is my preferred redpill option even though I am married and not eligible) is that they advertise to incels to deprioritize women so that they won't be angry. They tell them to find other things that they enjoy in their search for happiness. I'm not sure what the success rate of that recruitment strategy is but it seems way better than calling them smelly losers. What do you thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 01:04 PM
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Probabilisticly speaking this has to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 01:00 PM
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Edgy. The thing is that AWALT is a principle more than a quantitative proof, aphorism, or statement of fact. It really means "all women can do that to you and there is no way for you to figure out if she is going to do that to you until it's too late". The actions taken in response to understanding AWALT are the same actions taken if you understand the quoted text. AWALT is just much more handy and concise. It's good branding.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 12:46 PM
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NAWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 10:41 PM
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My bad. Good catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 10:41 PM
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The power of statistics is that you do not need a comprehensive sample to glean information about the population under review. There is error associated with extrapolations derived from the sub samples but this does not invalidate the statistical approach as long as appropriate assumptions are made known and the conclusions are adequately caveated.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 10:39 PM
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Humans exist in nature. All rational philosophy stems from the observation of natural phenomena and applies logic thereto.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 10:37 PM
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That works. I have no interest in what women do on their own time I only care about simps being cleanup men and covering up for their mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 08:43 PM
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Yes this is true. I think it is because men have to work pretty hard to get laid and so low-lying fruit becomes attractive. Also the stakes are much lower for a man than a woman regarding potential unwanted pregnancy and STD transmission. Plus, unless it is unhygienic, pussy is pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 01:10 PM
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They like the sensitivity because it indicates the man operates in an emotional frame which gives the woman an advantage over him because he should be operating in a logical frame.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 10:47 AM
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I’d guess maybe more. All pussy is roughly the same. Seems like there’s more variance in dicks so maybe a woman would be intrigued by shopping around. I think the drive for men is hardwired as a fix for scarcity and probably covert (sometimes overt )hierarchy signaling depending on cultural influences and norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 01:39 AM
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Agree. Probably time to walk away. It’s actually very efficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 01:35 AM
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I see what you’re saying but I think it all depends. People aren’t obligated to stay together so they can pull a “you do this or I will leave you” if it’s that serious to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 01:31 AM
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Feminism removed all incentives for men to modify flaws in their behavior for women. Almost no woman is a catch (though some are prettier than others...looks always fade) so a man should not stress himself for her benefit. Also, I am not divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 01:27 AM
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Right on. Threat was not a good word to use. You should communicate what you find acceptable and allow them to make the best decision for themselves and the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 01:22 AM
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That’s their right and they shall do so at their own demise. Relationships are dead and feminism killed them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 12:04 AM
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Fair point. My point is that the people who buy into that and go to their “dream universities” and travel abroad are women (significantly more than men).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 09:26 PM
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What more are people than a summation of characteristics?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 09:13 PM
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That’s the exact point. College is hit or miss but women go in droves (2:1 ratio compared to men) and saddle themselves with debt which makes them less attractive despite their heightened educational level.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 09:12 PM
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70% of student loan debt is held by women. It is quite gendered. Women tend to study less lucrative things (things that they feel are more fulfilling) as compared to men, on average. I’d rather be unemployed without $30k of student loan debt than with if I had to choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 09:04 PM
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I do not disagree with those two statements. You still have not addressed my original comments about women’s education and their relation to relationship value. Why would your ideal good guy go for that “smart” woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:57 PM
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When you look at the so-called student loan debt bubble, underemployment, and unemployment it is rational to conclude that taking up those costly studies tends to not work out for a significant proportion of those women. Hence, gullible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:52 PM
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I’m not really following what you’re getting at. What do you mean by guys who “matter”? I have two engineering degrees, I assume I make the cut. It’s not that education and job choices are disqualifies but they are not positive discriminators when comparing between who to pick. Other characteristics being roughly equal I’d date the more attractive woman who is less professionally accomplished before the less attractive women who is more so. I don’t need a woman for money so it makes perfect sens…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:50 PM
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College is dominated by women at the graduate and undergraduate level.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:45 PM
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/r/whereareallthegoodmen and bolde.com contain many artifacts (dating profiles and articles) demonstrating this behavior. Also, any feminist magazine will tell women that the CC is their birthright and to miss out on it will be forever regrettable. Personally, I know women who are long term single who do not sleep around as well as women in their twenties who are quite whorish (bang married couples from Tinder level whorish). Externally they are indistinguishable thus the prudent man assumes AWA…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:39 PM
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Nope. Definitely gullible. Look at who owns all that student loan debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:31 PM
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No worries. Most people think it’s half of government spending overall because it is half of discretionary spending. This misconception is not an accident. With that said, I won’t say that we don’t spend too much money on the military...just not nearly as much as most people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:30 PM
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When you factor in all their student debt and consumer debt that they accrue it’s even worse than a used car vs new car.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:28 PM
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How does that make her more attractive? Have you seen the educational areas that women tend to spend time in? Hint: they are not boner inducing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:26 PM
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No woman is intimidating beyond being super attractive. Even then, it’s the guys she is capable of getting attention from that would be actually intimidating, not her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:25 PM
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Yikes. Those women aren’t more mature, just better actors after many years of Chad and error on the CC. They are piranhas who will bait and switch you with their knowledge of how to be chameleons. Once women sexually mature and the simps arrive they don’t grow again until they are no longer on easy street.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:22 PM
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👍🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:17 PM
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Dread game just uses the irrational biological imperatives of women to ones advantage. Nothing wrong with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:02 PM
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Threatening to leave your partner to enforce arbitrary boundaries is completely okay and the only way to protect yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:01 PM
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The 31% is not just military spending. In the link you posted (which is correct), the 31% includes military and non-military discretionary spending. That’s all the money that is debatable year over year. The remaining 69% is some form of welfare that are considered entitlements.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:59 PM
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Military spring is about 15-17% of government spending in a given year.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:54 PM
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That could happen but what I’m advocating is not sustained misery but sustained work to keep from being miserable. That is assuming that you want to have kids. If you don’t want kids and you want to get married then you’re a crazy person, or a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:07 PM
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If you think welfare spending (assuming you’re talking about the US) is paltry you need to do some research. The overwhelming majority of government spending is a form of welfare.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:05 PM
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I’m a word, yes. Put the kids first and figure out your problems with that in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:02 PM
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Feminism is Government sponsored LARPing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 12:16 AM
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They are THE problem. I don't blame women for anything. They've never raised an army and taken anything by force. It's been all the beta simp sabateurs and enablers that are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:17 AM
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Similarly, women have no power unless they are able to strip it from men through the magical power of vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:52 AM
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If you better yourself for any purpose other than internal validation then you're probably doing it wrong. Learn to be comfortable alone and home skills that interest you. Reject consumerism and get yourself financially in order. Take care of your body so you are healthy. Cultivate positive relationships. Women will be waiting at the finish line. Don't wife them tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:46 PM
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Those are actually some good and reasonable reasons. Thanks for the chat. Cheers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:42 AM
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This is true. Almost all women believe feminist concepts whether they know it or not. A prime example would be the notion that men and women are, on average, equal. They say that while living in a world where the number one person at a given thing is invariably a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 07:42 PM
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I'm with you man. I take Coach Greg Adams advice and take control of my thirst. Unless I happen to catch a woman give me a kind eye (in which case I will return the gesture) I make it a point to not check them out. I double down if they are rolling braless or doing the booty out of the shorts thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 07:38 PM
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What are the benefits to spontaneous platonic coed friendships? I can think of one-sided sexual feelings being a huge drawback. What's the good thing that is going to balance that out?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 07:33 PM
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Regardless, the plural of anecdote is not data.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 01:04 AM
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Never trust a woman’s words because the truth of her claims is rooted in her transient emotional state.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 01:01 AM
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I don’t think a man talking about his feelings shows weakness unless it he whines or gets emotions incessantly. I think that men understood this innately and can separate the strong from the week in emotional moments. I think that women cannot comprehend the degree to which men do not experience emotions (the frequency, duration, and intensity of emotional experiences by men as compared to women). This misunderstanding of the natural differences is a lead-in to the incorrect notion that men “sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 01:00 AM
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That’s a pretty awesome outcome. The only related problem I could ever see maybe happening is when your sex drive dies down as you get older (which is the norm) he could inadvertently factor in your past negatively when he is mad about not getting enough sex. That is avoidable tho if you have good open communications. That scenario hinges on many assumptions that may or may not be applicable (assuming his libido will outpace yours, for example).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:55 PM
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I like your attitude about the whole thing. What rubs me the wrong way is when women do stuff like that and then say that men are insecure for asking about it and not accepting it willingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:26 PM
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Neither of those things are normally contracted in the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:17 PM
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I think it is because there is an overt push to destigmatize slutty behavior. That coupled with the fact that there is no true way to tell how slutty a woman is or has been makes it hard to figure out how to operate in the dating landscape (this is an assumption on my part since I am not dating).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:16 PM
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I could do an FWB with a cheater because the premise of the relationship does not imply monogamy. I could never commit to anyone who is a known cheater. To be fair, a lot of guys I know are not as sensitive to lascivious behavior as I am so I may be in the minority opinion concerning sex clubs and the like. Also, I don't think there is anything wrong with a couple swinging if they want to do that sort of thing together. That's just not a lifestyle that I would be comfortable with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:13 PM
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I agree with you that the more women you sleep with the more it detaches a man from sex. There's something about cracking the code and realizing that AWALT that sort of ruins the illusion of women and sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:02 PM
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26 in 5 months, many of which were at a sex club. This is a bright red flag and the type of behavior that brings in the visceral disgust that is often referenced in this subreddit. Personally, I could not even participate in a FWB arrangement with someone after they told me that information.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 02:58 PM
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion as to what they find attractive. It seems as though men do not generally find women who are built like that to be attractive enough for commitment. Of course they will still have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 02:52 PM
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This is correct. Women are measurably worse now then before. The average American women is 5'4" 168 pounds (according to the CDC).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 01:39 AM
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That is an arbitrary opinion that is easily dismissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 11:07 PM
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The real question is.... What does the cohort of older women have to offer established men? The younger women are hotter and a guy who is older and established knows how to do everything in his life already. He clearly seeks three younger women because they are the superior choice sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 10:51 PM
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My wife and I have been together since about that age (for 20 years). While I agree with you that a traditional relationship create pressure for both participants I think it is actually a good thing, long-term. The traditional dynamic creates a necessity for one another which I argue can be a good thing. That way, when things inevitably get tough then both people will have to weather the storm and figure things out. Contrast that with an egalitarian marriage where you essentially have two indepe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 02:02 PM
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Oh. You guys are probably actually happy then since you're still young. Congrats. Here the MRAs lobby against circumcision, for family law reform, and for shelters for male victims of domestic violence (the are two I think in the entire US... This may have recently improved). I'm sure there are some very angry men in their ranks that you could find quickly but those are some of the main issues I'm their sort of official platform. I'm not sure what studies you're asking for but advantages that wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 02:43 AM
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In the US still is very much a predictor of failure. The majority of drug addicts, alcoholics, mass shooters, criminals, prisoners, abusers, etc. were raised by single parents (usually single mothers). I know there are significant societal differences between the US and Russia and I will not push back against your experience therein. I will only say that, on average, women in the US have it better than men and have a multitude of Government sponsored programs for them that men do not. Lastly, do…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 04:19 PM
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It might be a difference in locales then. In the US divorce rates are super high and single motherhood is the biggest predictor of failure. I am very skeptical about your abuse claims although feminist have managed to classify almost anything a man does that approximates enforcing standards as abuse or "controlling". If you live in a Muslim country the I won't argue that point. I still stand by my point that egalitarian marriages are useless to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 01:50 PM
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I know (probably) more couples with a SAHM than the average 30 something,but I have friends that are SAHD as well. I don't really think it is fair to discount religious people in the discussion since (the prevalence ok r absense of) religion plays a significant role in how norms are defined. I would argue that the feminist/leftist attack on religion is coincident with the decline of the family/society and that this occurence was not an accident. I think you are correct about this being a transit…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 12:31 PM
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I was just trying to say that if women weren't riding the CC then red pill men wouldn't waste their time running game but would pursue more worthwhile interest. As far as the "prize" remark that was unrelated but I do think that the people who are the 1% that have a functional, happy, rewarding marraiges probably do have a prize. Plus, as much of a biological need as relationships are, I'd argue that when someone can find another that they like and start a relationship with them it is reasonable…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 03:11 AM
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I find it interesting that you claim that must people don't want to return to the 50s (in regards to gender roles) but I wonder how you know what most people think. It's especially tricky because it is politically incorrect to hold traditional views on gender norms. I agree that the message being shouted from media, entertainment, and academia would reflect yoursentiment. The trends regarding women's happiness, marraige rates, abortion statistics, reproduction statistics, divorce rates, and sing…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 03:00 AM
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Gender roles. Women as homemaking nurturers, men as strong breadwinners. Males and females having their own spaces that are separate from one another. Prioritizing the welfare of children over the emotions of adults. Shaming things that are degenerate and out of the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 12:35 AM
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It is disingenuous to straw man him and narrow it down to only women he knows. Statistics exist and tell a story that confirms his claim. Also, doing forget about alimony (93% is payed from men to women). But yes, society is structured to cover for poor decisions by women and punish poor decisions by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 03:59 PM
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I think it depends on his age and experience. As we get older the hormones slow down a lot. When I turned about 34 I suddenly stopped evaluating every woman in sight as sexual. Also, after having sex with a variety of women you realize that they are basically all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 03:47 PM
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I actually meant to say “women like that” instead of “women like you” because I don’t know you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 03:20 PM
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That’s a fair opinion. I’m all about individual freedom so I don’t generally like top-down rules, especially enforced by the government. I do prefer the tenets of patriarchy (which arise from nature) to the current set of arbitrary norms but wouldn’t really deride anyone for taking an opposing point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 03:18 PM
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There isn’t much benefit to settling down with one woman over a long period of time in that scenario. As that guy you have to spend a lot of time compromising and sacrificing time to maintain access to a depreciating asset. If one does not want children it is obvious to not get married, but the extension of that is to also not get involved long-term because that to is a losing situation. It makes way more sense to have the fun and then move along on a self-improvement journey and then get a bett…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 01:42 PM
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Be more successful and well-rounded. Women aren’t a prize, they are giveaways.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 01:25 PM
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Women like you shouldn’t be punished but you should also not be considered for LTR commitment because your sexual history brings no potential positives and some potential negatives. It’s really just that simple. Unless you are going to contend that getting ran through makes you extra good at laying on your back and putting your legs up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 01:20 PM
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Yes. This is the longtime strategy enforced by all patriarchal (aka successful) societies. It is obviously not all fun or fair but works best for society building at the trade off of short term individual happiness of the young.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 01:11 PM
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Ironically, lesbians have the deadest bedrooms. I would guess it is because neither of them can consistently initiate. Just a guess tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 01:09 PM
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This is the exact reason not to commit to a woman. If she’s with you for emotional reasons then the second the emotions wane she will begin to swing to the next branch. The prudent man keeps things casual and occasional and enjoys her for sex and company under conditions that benefit himself. Even though the man has the so-called upper hand because he does not have a biological clock, hat is not the point of this strategy. In today’s relationship game where men and women bring mostly the same th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 12:59 PM
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I tend to agree with your ideals on the subject personally but I don't think this point of view is scalable. I think another problem with this as a general approach is that it implies men and women are the same. They are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:21 PM
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I guess where we disagree is in the use of the concept of "deserve". It doesn't make sense to me that preferences would be impacted in this situation. If someone has a high partner count they can still prefer someone with a low partner count. I don't think that like necessary prefers like. Now, with that said, I do think it is not okay to lie about ones count in an effort to decieve a potential partner. If there is full disclosure then everyone needs to be prepared to be subjected to the other's…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 09:56 PM
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Couldn't agree more. That type of woman is viscerally disgusting to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 07:13 PM
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It's up to women. There is no double-standard because there are two different populations judging. If women (or a woman) have standards that they prefer men who don't sleep around then their actions should reflect such. It's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 07:12 PM
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In my experience, the more you have sex the more you realize it is overrated and not worth the emphasis people put on it or the risks people take to get it. It's obviously fun, for what it is, but it is easy to get and not worth any fuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 07:05 PM
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I think the idea is that the characteristics that the man posseses that allow him to sleep would make it likely for a woman to overlook his sleeping around. I'd add that women don't seem to seek out sexually inexperienced men and instead look for men who can satisfy them (which takes practice). It does not take any particular skill level to satisfy a man sexually (i.e. laying on your back or getting on all fours, etc. is easy).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 07:00 PM
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You're correct that these women do not exist. The correct conclusion based on that would be to not marry (and only commit to younger women who aren't run through yet).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 06:56 PM
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Coming from the perspective that there is nothing that marraige exclusively provides to benefit men I'll say that I agree with the conclusion of the OP. People are saying that correlation does not equal causation which is statistically true. However the data does indicate an increased risk of failure based on a woman's promiscuous failure (which isn't to say that a woman who has ridden the carousel will always be a bad choice). Additionally, a woman's experience getting pounded out by a bunch of…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 06:50 PM
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