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This is what people aren't understanding.. if she likes you, you don't get a hint. Women will often tell you 😂
/r/MensRights27/06/23 07:47 AM
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Actually, they don't like it. Actually. I can confirm. Yes we do. You know there are just normal people out there.. who have boyfriends/husbands/even one night stands..who they have sex with, because they want to
/r/MensRights26/06/23 05:00 PM
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You know women like sex too right?
/r/MensRights26/06/23 04:53 PM
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But who are you asking? Strangers? Or people you already have a friendly relationship with?
/r/MensRights26/06/23 04:33 PM
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It is difficult, as men and women are wildly different in this. Example: I might find someone physically attractive, but I don't necessarily want to date them. Whereas men, are far more likely to want to date someone who was "hot" right. But I am speaking from experience. If a woman has romantic interest in someone, she will make it be known. Like.. if you're online dating. If they reply they like you. Obvious. If its a friend. If you ask for their number, they say yes, you text, Obvious The onl…
/r/MensRights26/06/23 02:58 PM
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If a woman likes you, it will without a doubt be obvious. If it isn't. She doesn't like you that much. As for you. You know what you want, and feel you’re very clear about it. But it is probably not clear to someone who doesn’t know you, or doesn’t know you well. Please bear that in mind. I have never and would never, go on a date with someone who I don't know/doesn't know me. I see women say similar "how do I know he likes me", "he blows hot and cold". The answer to all questions is... they jus…
/r/MensRights26/06/23 02:41 PM
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In the UK we have a thing called "clean break divorce". Most people opt for this. It baffles me that some parts of the world don't have that.
/r/MensRights26/06/23 02:13 PM
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I'm saying.. An exmaple: if a women has an OF account. They shouldn't be shocked that people only see them in a sexual light. The same as if a man offers over his wallet to a women, he shouldn't be surprised he is viewed as a bank account If you don't want to be taken advantage of, you sometimes need to look at how your actions are perceived So to answer your question. Yes. I would say the same about casual sex
/r/MensRights26/06/23 02:02 PM
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Where/when did I argue?
/r/MensRights26/06/23 01:13 PM
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I don't say it was a wrong Obviously both should be jailed.
/r/MensRights26/06/23 06:05 AM
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Well excuse me for trying to learn about men's right. Can't win with you people 😂
/r/MensRights25/06/23 10:15 PM
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?
/r/MensRights25/06/23 10:09 PM
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I'm still not convinced the ones that actually did it get jailed. So god knows about them guys
/r/MensRights25/06/23 09:40 PM
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Men are too tbf
/r/MensRights25/06/23 09:23 PM
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What's that got to do with cheating
/r/MensRights25/06/23 09:16 PM
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More than before. But not more than men lol
/r/MensRights25/06/23 09:10 PM
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No. Literally every stats on the topic says the same. Not just feminist ones. Women are more likely to have an emotional affair. And men more likely to have a physical affair
/r/MensRights25/06/23 09:07 PM
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To generalise people just by their gender is so stupid. "Men are x", or "all women think x". Has never made much sense to me
/r/MensRights25/06/23 08:59 PM
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Ye my bad. I did correct to SA & harrassment somewhere round here.
/r/MensRights25/06/23 08:50 PM
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Ye true. So thats 2 so far.
/r/MensRights25/06/23 08:49 PM
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People can make whatever conclusions they want. I'm not here to invalidate anyones experience. And I don't blame them.. I don't wanna marry either. In general, western women are not trustworthy in 2023. Basically, I just don't see the point in saying this 🤣 The internet enabled these men to share their experiences and to go “hmmm, so it wasn’t just me all along; you guys are ALSO dealing with that shit from women? Seems to be a widespread phenomenon.” I dunno man. This is basically what feminist…
/r/MensRights25/06/23 08:38 PM
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That's a very toxic attitude though. It isn't fair for young men to read that and to discount any hope of a relationship based on someone else's bad experience. I could easily say men aren't trustworthy. But I wouldn't. Because obviously some are
/r/MensRights25/06/23 08:27 PM
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That women cheat more. Women are guilty of a lot of things. So should be easy to find real examples, lol
/r/MensRights25/06/23 08:21 PM
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I'm googling. But honestly struggling to find videos of women a man
/r/MensRights25/06/23 08:16 PM
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I'm not here to complain about men lol Just don't like it when people lie, and worse..people believe the lie.
/r/MensRights25/06/23 08:11 PM
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I'm not sure that's true though. I've been googling this now to check. And I can't see a stat anywhere that says it's around the same
/r/MensRights25/06/23 08:07 PM
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OK.. but that doesn't mean women cheat more
/r/MensRights25/06/23 08:00 PM
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Ye that's a good explanation. Like society is over compensating
/r/MensRights25/06/23 07:58 PM
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You can cheat on your partner with someone who is single.. I'm sure if I understand your question
/r/MensRights25/06/23 07:55 PM
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Data should include single men too who has never been in relationships. But why lol. Because obviously they've never cheated or been chested on. Well we know who makes these stats I think all research has the same conclusion. It isn't like 1 or 2 rouge feminist studies. It's all studies. women also tends to like men who are likely to cheat because they only list on men who are popular among other women. It's how that works. Hm..I think we'd all prefer partners who didn't cheat 😂
/r/MensRights25/06/23 07:53 PM
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everyone else completely tolerates her behaviour. In that video. Ye. But that wouldn't always happen lol Not to defend women. But women are risk adverse and less likely to put themselves in harms way. Men are far braver.
/r/MensRights25/06/23 07:45 PM
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But statically.. men still cheat more than women do. Right
/r/MensRights25/06/23 07:41 PM
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Ye that too. I can't think of a time, sexual assault in the workplace has resulted in prison.
/r/MensRights25/06/23 07:39 PM
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Not all women would tolerate that. I could pull as many examples of that happening with the genders reversed Im not sure what it proves honestly
/r/MensRights25/06/23 07:24 PM
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Sorry. I replied to the wrong thread 🤣🤣🤣 ignore my comment
/r/MensRights25/06/23 07:23 PM
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there's literally no negative connotation with being seen as a victim. It's literally you being told that you deserve to win at life, and currently there are forces which have nothing to do with you preventing you from reaching your rightful place among higher society. You're too good to be a loser. There are lots of people out there who really really don't want to be seen as a victim though. Can't discount that. Like me..I wouldn't want special treatment for being a legitimate victim nor would …
/r/MensRights25/06/23 07:22 PM
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Some guy I used to work with got let ago for harassment. He's not in jail lol There will be examples where it does happen. But it won't be all the time.. and I imagine it happens less than more Edit: I replied to the wrong thread lol ignore this
/r/MensRights25/06/23 07:19 PM
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In fairness.. i don't know that many men are jailed for workplace harrassment either
/r/MensRights25/06/23 07:14 PM
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Right. But not everything is that black and white. What I said isn't true for everyone. And neither is this 👇 It's "men are privileged, men are better at making friends, men hate women and reject them from their sports and video games club". "women hate other women, women are nice and giving towards men and men treat them like crap" Everyone has a different experience which leads them to have different opinions It's good to come up with simple ways to describe the actual reality that people see …
/r/MensRights25/06/23 07:00 PM
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No. But you wouldn't call a wildly successful man a loser, would you
/r/MensRights25/06/23 06:58 PM
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I've noticed for a while that benevolent sexism in feminism creates weird traps for women Idk if its soley feminism. I think its always be true.. women not wanting to be seen as victims I mean. Mainly, I'm thinking of how Clinton billed herself as a loving mother and grandmother. This seemed contrary to feminist thinking, but yet she used it because she knew it would play out well in the polls. Depends which type of feminism you're talking about 😂 in their defence.. some are legitimately in favo…
/r/MensRights25/06/23 06:57 PM
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I mean.. I guess it makes sense in a way. Men fight for women's attention. And women don't really want men's. Not saying its right. But it "makes sense" Men see men as competition, so men don't like men. And women definitely prefer women.
/r/MensRights25/06/23 06:51 PM
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I guess the difference is.. people can break away from that "loser" label if they're lucky. But victim kind of sticks with you for life
/r/MensRights25/06/23 06:48 PM
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Ye. As much as people here say women are privileged, its also no fun that people assume we're all harmless little delicate butterflies 😂 I think we need more people saying these notions of power dynamics are overly simplified personally. And yeah. Totally agree.
/r/MensRights25/06/23 06:46 PM
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I don't think it's a matter of liking women more. Rather than all men are viewed as a threat and women viewed as harmless. a man could physically overpower most women, and on average, half of all men. Whereas women can maybe take out half of all women.. on average. Like men are the top of the food chain, strength wise
/r/MensRights25/06/23 06:43 PM
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Oh right. So "why wouldn't they succeed, they have all the advantages" kind of thing. I don't really agree with this, but that's the general assumption I think. Ye ofc. Women can be losers and men can obviously be victims Honestly, what op said, is also kind of offensive to women. I don't want to be viewed as a victim just based on my gender.
/r/MensRights25/06/23 06:38 PM
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I'm out of ideas then 😂😂
/r/MensRights25/06/23 06:32 PM
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I imagine just the actual physical statue of some men makes a huge difference in how their perceived. My partner is a big bloke... no one ever fucks with him. Being a woman is good and bad for this. The wind would win in a fight against me. So I'm not a threat (so an easy tagrey maybe), but then again, maybe I'm treated better because of that.
/r/MensRights25/06/23 06:29 PM
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Firstly.. I do actually totally agree. But what do you think causes this? Why does society have a higher expectations of men? I don't believe people want men to fail. Truly, I don't. That's not in anyones best interest.. so what is it 🤔
/r/MensRights25/06/23 06:23 PM
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Well done to that man for sharing his story 👏
/r/MensRights25/06/23 06:20 PM
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No, it's not totally true. But its definitely is a factor. I'm female. I don't feel "more welcome" at drive thrus either, though, lol I might be mixing up 2 videos 😂 one where they were homeless, one where they had tattoos ha I have visible tattoos, and I'm a woman too. Not sure where that leaves ue 🤣
/r/MensRights25/06/23 06:15 PM
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I dated someone once, who was very dependent on me financially. It wasn't an problem. But when he kept getting into debt, and also risking me getting into debt... it became a problem So, yes, fair enough. I'd rather someone who was independent due to bad experience. But my current partner also wants me to be independent (which i am) Whats the problem with that
/r/MensRights25/06/23 06:13 PM
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??? You can't expect someone else to fix everything for you. That's like me saying "so women can't count on men?" I would absolutely attend anti draft protests or whatever. But I can't turn the draft down, I'm not drafted lol.
/r/MensRights25/06/23 06:11 PM
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I watched a video once. It compared people who have tattoos and looked basically homeless vs people in suits/office wear. Almost all people were nicer to the ones dressed better. Men and women.
/r/MensRights25/06/23 06:07 PM
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As a man no one is really happy to see you when you pull up to a drive through window or go to the store. Pull up with a female in the car and watch people’s eyes light up and the atmosphere totally changes and becomes light and friendly. I'm maybe too British to understand this. No one who works a customer service jobs eyes light up, ever 😂
/r/MensRights25/06/23 06:06 PM
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well we could talk about the draft/conscription is part of gender roles... Men need to he louder and more defiant. I know in some counties you can go to prison. But they can't imprison everyone
/r/MensRights25/06/23 06:03 PM
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Not all women
/r/MensRights25/06/23 06:01 PM
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Ye. I do agree. I feel like women have done more to embrace the rejection of the norms/stereotypes. Men seem more resistant to letting go of them for some reason
/r/MensRights25/06/23 03:45 PM
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I'm anti marriage lol
/r/MensRights25/06/23 03:30 PM
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Men/women on the right want traditional wives/husbands. People on the left are more, well, liberal
/r/MensRights25/06/23 03:04 PM
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This is probably over simplified, but something I've seen.. Breaking the expectation than men should be "manly". Men on the red carpet in dresses. Nail vanish whatever. Well, that's being going on forever, and has been credited to the "woke". But either way, they have adopted it
/r/MensRights25/06/23 12:48 PM
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I think there are a few different types of "feminist" The teenage girl who needs to feel as though they "belong". It's a very easy thing to get invovled in The extreme left, (woke people) - which can actually benefit men.. bear with me... it gives people license to break gender norms, if they so wish to.. but ofc is also very dangerous. Depends who you are Men who think it'll make them attractive to women People who are actually feminist.. and ofc within that, there are different types of femini…
/r/MensRights25/06/23 12:18 PM
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I wouldn’t agree that womens issues are unilaterally mocked or said to not exist here; this sub is far more moderate than that. Ye ok haha. I have seen with my own two eyes people here say "women are privileged." "Women have no problems" "women want to enslave/kill all men". men’s issues are glaringly obvious in the media alone, let alone within social media and general discourse. They are wilfully ignored, and usually pushed aside in favour of discussion of women’s issues. Theyre obvious if you…
/r/MensRights25/06/23 10:54 AM
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And true in all of mine.
/r/MensRights25/06/23 10:05 AM
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Women actually aren't that complicated... if they like you, they'll say yes. If they don't, they won't
/r/MensRights25/06/23 08:11 AM
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I absolutely love to work from home all the time 🤤
/r/MensRights25/06/23 08:06 AM
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I'm anti draft. Neither men or women should do it. But... men are physically stronger. And women bear children. So it makes sense that historically men were the ones who went to war. But, again, it shouldn't be a thing at all.
/r/MensRights25/06/23 08:04 AM
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Try another of those amiugly subreddits. Women who are 4/10s get on there and get thousands of upvotes, people telling them they’re beautiful. Ooooh. So you don't mean an actual compliment. You just mean any kind of positive attention?
/r/MensRights25/06/23 07:47 AM
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Sure....ok. age was a weird example to use tho
/r/MensRights24/06/23 09:45 PM
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Uk is so dumb. Right now it's 10 degrees less than Greece, but 20% more humid. I feels like I am sitting in an oven.
/r/MensRights24/06/23 09:25 PM
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Youre encouraging your daughter to date older men that have money? I'm confused
/r/MensRights24/06/23 09:22 PM
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In my life. Men talk about women's issues in a mocking tone. On here, they say they're don't exist. Clearly, me and you have had a very different experience of this sub/life 😂 Men's Rights still have a long way to go before society at large recognizes that there's even a need for this conversation Ye. But at a minimum, people should be encouraged to talk about the problems. Because exactly as you say.. it isn't even recognised as a problem. But imo, it's because people don't see it/haven't been …
/r/MensRights24/06/23 06:07 PM
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Sigh Change the record pal. I haven't said anything disrespectful to you. I wasn't even talking to you. You just want to pick a fight because I'm female. Go annoy someone else
/r/MensRights24/06/23 05:42 PM
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What does respecting men or not respecting men have to do with standing up to women? 🫠 And where did I ridicule you? 🫠
/r/MensRights24/06/23 05:38 PM
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Erm...ok?
/r/MensRights24/06/23 05:34 PM
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Duh. That was my point
/r/MensRights24/06/23 05:30 PM
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Maybe it's the "men can't hit women" "women can't hit men" thing. There's more fear when we get into confrontation with the opposite sex
/r/MensRights24/06/23 03:41 PM
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Women have a hotter core temperature. Which is why they feel the cold (arms and legs ect). There is research to suggest women suffer more from heat stroke. Higher mortality rates. But alas. This article is still dumb😂 Side note. I hate the heat. Personally, I suffer in 22 😂
/r/MensRights24/06/23 03:38 PM
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Weirdly. I find it easier to stand up to other women than I find it to stand up to men. Maybe this is a common thing
/r/MensRights24/06/23 03:27 PM
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No. Not that I can remember. But I wasn't taught "womens" problem either We all learn from experience right
/r/MensRights24/06/23 03:20 PM
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Some of it is the usual “grass is greener on the other side of the fence” stuff. But there is a great resistance to accepting that men have any real issues at all. As someone who floats around and tries to listen to both sides. Men say women have no problems. So you almost can't blame people for retaliating with a "idc attitude". Not saying its right... but it'd kind of understandable. Even a lot of men tend to shrug them off, until they get hit by it themselves. Well exactly. So how can people …
/r/MensRights24/06/23 03:18 PM
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Ye and you raise a good point. But its probably a good start to at least talk to friends/family about stiff. Op inferred that No women give a shit. Look closer to home first I get what you're saying, honestly. But fear of being shut down shouldn't stop you My issue with feminism and mra is the constant belittling of the other side.
/r/MensRights24/06/23 03:08 PM
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It's happening right in front of your eyes daily. Hollywood, marketing campaigns, political campaigns and women. All regularly, openly, and shamelessly indulge in insulting men. Well yes duh. But again, you're assuming all people are tuned into it. I am, I'm online. But not everyone is/pays much attention. I have a brother in his late 30s. He barley watches the news. I probably know more about men's rights than he does. Completely ignoring that maybe men are just exhausted, emotionally and physi…
/r/MensRights24/06/23 02:58 PM
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Alrighty. I was only trying to help bridge the gap. Highlighting that men need to actually talk about their problems. But ok 👌🏼🤣 Most people don't live on the Internet. Are busy, work/kids ect. They don't sit around and dwell on the problem men/women face globally. People only care about anything when it affects them. Youre ignorant to think otherwise. I love my partner. I obviously very much care about his problems. People care about their dads/sons. But generally speaking.. no, I don't care if…
/r/MensRights24/06/23 02:48 PM
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Sure, there are some who won't be okay with it, but unless they voice this at some point or you ask them, how are you supposed to know? You can't just assume no one wants it because plenty of people hook up with colleagues, so the only option left is to find out. Or cross it off an ever growing list of places you're not allowed to approach women I'm thinking back over all my jobs.. and maybe this is just my experience, but I think those people make themselves known. "We're going for drinks later…
/r/MensRights24/06/23 02:41 PM
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I am criticizing the supposed ignorance you assume women possess about men's problems. These problems are understood as a natural part of what man must suffer. See, you say that. But I'm here in this sub, partially to learn things I don't know/wouldn't even think to look into. I'm not a man, therefore wouldn't dare suggest I understand what it's like. I am taking the time to learn.. but many don't even know there is anything to learn. do you see that attractive and successful man? I do not see t…
/r/MensRights24/06/23 02:37 PM
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But not all women are disinterested in being friends or meeting with people outside of work hours. The question is, as men who are expected to make the first move, how else are we supposed to know unless we ask? There will be some who are ok with it. Just saying I'm not, therefore imagine others aren't. This guy's mistake was continuing to ask after he was told no the first time. In his defence.. it was partly the girls fault too. She made an excuse rather than just say "no". Messy situation for…
/r/MensRights24/06/23 02:25 PM
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man's problems don't matter a shit to a woman as long as it's not a problem for herself. Youre ignoring what I'm saying. Do the women in your life actually KNOW the problems? You can't say they don't care, if they don't know And those who know, inherently either tell us that "a man's suffering is part of his attractive masculinity", Who has ever said that? I'm not talking about feminist. I mean normal, regular women
/r/MensRights24/06/23 02:22 PM
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Everyone has kind of missed my point Lots of women likely won't know the issues men's face because they've never been directly told. You can't judge someone for not knowing something that never been explained to them
/r/MensRights24/06/23 02:15 PM
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Women’s issues aren’t invisible to anyone; unless you’ve been living under a rock, you can see it in the media the globe over. Well.. kind of. It can be talked about, but some people willl just dismiss it as women complaining or something. I've seen it said here that "women don't have any problems, they're privileged ect"... so the media can't be that overwhelmingly for women Ask (yes), believe (you mean confirm or validate here right?) And ye I guess. The same goes for women understanding men's…
/r/MensRights24/06/23 01:53 PM
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The same reason womens issues are invisible to men. Unless you ask, and believe, no one will ever know anything
/r/MensRights24/06/23 01:40 PM
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This isn't about women controlling you. It's about men needing to compliment other men Most compliments women get are from other women
/r/MensRights24/06/23 12:01 PM
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Any time a woman wants an ego boost, all she has to do is say she feels ugly. She’ll get SWARMS of people telling her she’s beautiful. ??? Who are these swarms of people 😂 1 I compliment my boyfriend almost every day - but granted, you probably aren't talking about people in relationship 2 Getting matches on dating site, is not the same as being complimented Its hard for a woman to compliment a man without him thinking she's flirting. I don't want to appear like I'm flirting ☠️ Men need to compl…
/r/MensRights24/06/23 11:59 AM
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Mra may have a stance. But there will be individuals who think outside of that Like the commenter above. No one should have to do it. You shouldn't be complaint women don't. You should be complaining you do
/r/MensRights24/06/23 11:10 AM
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Exclusion of men from women's so-called "safe spaces" is a particularly feminist way of thinking, no? Walling out men and considering them subhumans unworthy of engaging in a particular activity doesn't exactly sound to me like the mindset of a rational ideology. Well no... because men can do it if they want. What is the 99% male targeted marketing re weights machines called? MRA ism? Of course not ha Then who is? Whoever think women are willing to pay the money for it. Companies target to whoev…
/r/MensRights24/06/23 09:16 AM
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until fairly recently been considered laughable. Well thats no good either though ha This is the trouble I guess.. if women started doing yoga in Indian were shunned and probably considered to be "encroaching" on men's space.. its hard to know how hard to push the issue No exercise / meditation should be gendered. It is weird the more I think about it ha But when my family came the the US, we were all weirded out by the fact that yoga studios were so exclusionary towards men. Feminism really is …
/r/MensRights24/06/23 09:06 AM
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It sounds messy right. Op said he messaged her. Did she give him her number? Bit of a grey area. If I were the woman, I certainly wouldn't have put a complaint in. She could have just said "no thanks" instead of making up excuses - adding to the grey area Ness of it Best thing OP can do now is probably just focus on himself at work. Say hello if he thinks it's worth it and whatnot. Ye totally. Always sound advice. Workplace romances don't often go well anyway 🤣
/r/MensRights24/06/23 09:02 AM
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It's a shame to think that stereotypes, such as the yoga thing, would stop people. "Gender norms" is a powerful force unfortunately
/r/MensRights24/06/23 08:58 AM
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how would you fix the wage gap? Some of it is impossible to fix.. People will make the choices they make.. But, one big factor is surely better paternity leave & better child care i would ask you to take a look at luxembourg and their policies as they have a gap of under 1%... I'm googling. I'm getting the impression they pay women more per hour? Still googling...
/r/MensRights24/06/23 08:57 AM
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I kind of get that. The same as the weights bit in a gym. It's 99% men, which is intimidating for women as it isn't marketed towards them, they don't feel welcome. But, saying that, f1 & football is marketed to men. I still watch. Stereotypes shouldn't stop you doing something you really want to do
/r/MensRights24/06/23 08:51 AM
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To be fair. With the yoga thing. I've been to yoga classes at they're 99% women. So unless you stage some photos... you're only going to see women
/r/MensRights24/06/23 08:47 AM
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I still don't have the heart to report him. It would ruin his career. He isn't even the worse one 🤣
/r/MensRights24/06/23 08:40 AM
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Wait. You asked 1 girl out. Why did 3 complain? As a female. Who is disinterested with being friends with people I work with.. id recommend not suggesting meeting people outside of working hours/talking to them outside of working hours. It's good that nothing "formal" happened and your job is saved. But, be mindful that its awkward when anyone gives you "special" attention at work. I've had a guy ask me about 1000 times at work. I keep saying no. I wouldn't report him. But I can see why someone …
/r/MensRights24/06/23 08:25 AM
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Be the reasonable person.. When you think she is being unreasonable.. don't stooped to her level. Always make sure you're putting the kids best interest first Best of luck
/r/MensRights23/06/23 06:17 PM
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Comparing the MRAs and the feminists is like comparing a newborn baby to an 800lb gorilla. Feminism is institutionalised: virtually every university has “gender studies” or “women’s studies” departments. Oh. I agree. Don't misunderstand me. Feminism is out there, and accepted, laws are passed etc. And this is just academia. Feminism has the DV industry: heavily funded and with massive lobbying power. And large organisations which are probably the most influential political lobbying groups outsid…
/r/MensRights23/06/23 02:00 PM
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Well I’m specifically talking about all this “toxic masculinity” garbage. In truth is really means what feminists dislike about men (which is usually just about everything), or indeed simply saying that men are toxic. I don't know.. when I hang out in online feminist spaces.. there does need to be an understanding than Toxic Masculinity is specifically about a trait, rather than a person/gender. Women can have toxic masculinity traits right. Some, you're right, they just bash everyone, but... I …
/r/MensRights23/06/23 01:24 PM
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As someone who is neither a feminist or an mra. I can/try to, see it from both sides. will quickly retreat to the mott and once again assert that it’s “only” those “unfair expectations upon men”. I see this happen on both sides. Not all the time/everyone, but a lot.
/r/MensRights23/06/23 01:09 PM
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This might be a silly question. But what happens when a woman harasses a women? How is that viewed? I'm uk, and I feel our mainstream media is "ok" on these topics. Women and men alike will be in the news - whether vicitim or perpetrator. It seems pretty widely accepted that anyone can be a either. Some disparities- where a women is accused of stalking, she's a "crazy obsessed ex". When it's a man, it's doesn't get the same negativity, instead theyre a "jilted lover" or something. But.. female m…
/r/MensRights23/06/23 09:33 AM
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Example: "Toxic Masculinity doesn't mean, men are toxic, instead its about the gender norms / roles imposed upon men which are harmful to themselves and society" This specific example is interesting. When I say toxic masculinity.. I mean this 👆 But then people here say "it isn't real". Confusing "The Patriarchy hurts men too!!!" This too. Without a doubt the patriarchy used to exist. And still does in some places. But it's to benefit rich men & their families. Not all men 🤣 I don't get into many…
/r/MensRights23/06/23 09:23 AM
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Female perspective vs male perspectives Perspective is reality for most people. Women have to be told what men's problems are and vice versa. It's just then whether the other side chooses to listen
/r/MensRights23/06/23 09:13 AM
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If women are to be worthy of governing they must a) be forced to defend just as men are, and b) as many women lives must be sacrificed as men died through the history. Untill then, there is no real equality. ...so you are in favour of the draft? You're the first person here I've seen say that... If my country were at war. I'd probably stay (I'm female) BUT, I don't have children. If I did, I would probably leave. Lot of men have escaped Ukraine. And good for them. We shouldn't victimise people w…
/r/MensRights23/06/23 08:35 AM
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I'm Europe. And no one here talks about the pay gap. As the other person said.. it was long ago debunked. People do talk about the wage gap... and fair enough
/r/MensRights23/06/23 08:31 AM
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Ye. The last vote.. the male only rule only won by a slim margin. It's ultimately up to the members. Would be a shame if they were pressured into it though.
/r/MensRights23/06/23 07:48 AM
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Lol ok 🤣 I've done it at least twice. But ok
/r/MensRights22/06/23 07:27 PM
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......... accept the countless women who support their husbands/partners if they lose their job🙃 I said very similar words to my partner a few weeks ago. He wanted to go for a promotion but is already stressed enough. I reminded him, non of it really matters. I'd live in a cardboard box with him. Idc
/r/MensRights22/06/23 07:08 PM
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It applies to a lot women too you know
/r/MensRights22/06/23 07:05 PM
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Ye maybe. This sub doesn't go this wild when a man kills someone. This is a stage place Sorry: can't reply. The guy above must have blocked me ha
/r/MensRights22/06/23 06:10 PM
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Well duh. I didn't say I cared. Fucking hell. You guys go crazy at everything 😂
/r/MensRights22/06/23 06:09 PM
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If I killed someone because I panicked. I'd feel pretty bad. Wouldn't you?
/r/MensRights22/06/23 05:04 PM
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How so?
/r/MensRights22/06/23 03:53 PM
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The women I don't imagine it was pre meditated. Sounds like panic. Edit: it goes without saying it's obviously worse for the victim and family
/r/MensRights22/06/23 03:47 PM
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Oh man. That's terrible. She must feel awful
/r/MensRights22/06/23 03:03 PM
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It's illegal. There are companies that break the law. I have known it happen. But, no. Generally speaking, people will get paid the same amount when they have the same job The reviews might be referring to men being in senior positions. Idk
/r/MensRights22/06/23 01:35 PM
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Hopefully they'll vote "no"
/r/MensRights22/06/23 11:49 AM
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Women at are attractive by default Just because you find all women attractive. Doesn't mean women find all men attractive Everyone has a preference. It's kind of odd that you don't
/r/MensRights22/06/23 11:45 AM
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Men and women alike.. there is a weird ick about going "too" young imo. Youre chasing youth/dating their age, rather than the person. Adults should be able to go with whatever adult they want. But.. I think too big of an age gap, when one is under 25, could and maybe should raise some eyebrows As I've gotten older, my age bracket has aged up with me. I'm 27f, and like older dudes
/r/MensRights21/06/23 09:54 PM
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I could think someone is good looking right. But I don't necessarily want to sleep with them Whereas men... even if they hate the women, they'd do it
/r/MensRights21/06/23 09:17 PM
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I always put out first date 😂 so unsure how to answer But they wouldn't have gotten the date if I wasn't into them.
/r/MensRights21/06/23 09:16 PM
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I am trying to explain how female attraction works. I am no expert.. but I am woman, and I knows lots of women. You can't say "wrong". .. youre not a women 😂
/r/MensRights21/06/23 09:12 PM
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Thats exactly why they want you. Women love the chase as much as men do
/r/MensRights21/06/23 09:09 PM
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Are we talking sex, or love ? If its sex. Then sure. I'll go for the "hot" guy. (Whatever that means to me) If its love. Idgaf And no, I am not "wrong" biologically speaking, testosterone causes men to go for physical attractiveness. Whereas it takes a lot more for a women to be attracted in the first place. Good looking doesn't mean attractive for women
/r/MensRights21/06/23 09:03 PM
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"Back of the net"
/r/MensRights21/06/23 09:01 PM
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Ooh right ye. I agree. But same goes for online imo I had someone message once saying "hi, I've seen you around, etc etc" gave me mega creeps. Guys might be different.. or maybe I am just getting old. But having a conversation with a stranger, where you know the reason it was started is because theyre sexual attracted to me, is very very uncomfortable
/r/MensRights21/06/23 08:53 PM
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You mean when people "slide into dms" ? Ha
/r/MensRights21/06/23 08:49 PM
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Oh ok. But if a women brings up a very legitimate point.. she's what.. lying/exaggerating? What
/r/MensRights21/06/23 08:40 PM
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Dating sites are hell. And totally agree.. worse for men. The most ideal way , it the old fashioned.. a friend that turns into more, or a chance meeting. It is hard though
/r/MensRights21/06/23 08:33 PM
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But you can only speak for yourself not most women Well, ok. I speak for me and every woman i know. Only anecdotal. But still. I’m pretty sure the issue is a unknown person sending you messages. Would you classify that as a unsolicited messaging? Exactly.. no one likes being "approached" by a stranger. Whether it online or irl. That’s unless this person sent an engaging message that piqued your interest? I’d have to learn towards no It's not happened yet 🤣 I’ll be blunt. You’re not a man. You ca…
/r/MensRights21/06/23 08:31 PM
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I see western men call themselves oppressed every single day on this sub 😭 What's the difference Everyone's a hypocrite man
/r/MensRights21/06/23 08:17 PM
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For real.. where are you getting this information on women? For one, women do have to try. Not everyone wakes up beautiful. For two, there are lots and lots and lots of women who do not like gym bunnies. Including me. I'd rather a man be chubby than have a six pack
/r/MensRights21/06/23 08:13 PM
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Oppressed western women don't grasp what being oppressed is. Especially compared to the rest of the world. Pot calling the kettle black.
/r/MensRights21/06/23 08:10 PM
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Zach Galifianakis ❤️
/r/MensRights21/06/23 08:00 PM
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I may only be speaking for myself here.. but most women don't like being "approached" For example. If someone I don't know messages me with something like "hi", it's an instant red flag, no matter what they look like And being physically attracted to someone is important, of course. But women have a broader view of what we find physically attractive. Personally.. I like overweight men 😅 but another women might find that "ugly". The "ugliest" of men becomes attractive to a women when he has certa…
/r/MensRights21/06/23 07:45 PM
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Because most women aren't attracted to most men. Male and female attraction is insanely different Men = looks Women = everything except looks
/r/MensRights21/06/23 07:33 PM
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Speak for yourself. My sex drive is extremely high. My boyfriend can hardly keep up
/r/MensRights21/06/23 07:27 PM
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I've never really thought about this issue in much detail. But also assumed it was because mtf were far more vocal online, therefore were an "easier" target. The "woke" and "left" and many feminist are generally accepting of trans people.
/r/MensRights20/06/23 03:50 PM
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Oh ok. Ye true
/r/MensRights20/06/23 03:26 PM
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Are you a woman? Do I know you? My point still stands
/r/MensRights20/06/23 03:11 PM
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Did you just say that men being sexually assault by women is a competition? I actually said the opposite of that. You people here very often play the victim Olympics "we've had it worse wa wa wa wa"
/r/MensRights20/06/23 02:55 PM
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Why is everything a contest 💀 You have totally missed my point
/r/MensRights20/06/23 02:45 PM
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Why would questioning a study make someone pro rape?
/r/MensRights20/06/23 02:34 PM
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You seem to assume that women are blindly listened to. Most women I know have a story like this about a work colleague Whether they're listened to or not depends whether the company do/or don't want to get rid of said individual
/r/MensRights20/06/23 02:27 PM
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Do you have any credible (multiple) sources to back any of this up please
/r/MensRights20/06/23 02:26 PM
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He may be innocent of the accused crimes, ye But, regardless of thar... just from the craziness he has posted online, I don't like him😂 Definitely puts off a “I go to the club way too much” vibe. Yes he is the kind of men women mean when we say "we don't like men" 🤣
/r/MensRights20/06/23 02:15 PM
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He was under investigation back in 2016. This has been going on long before his internet infamy
/r/MensRights20/06/23 02:03 PM
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I've honestly never know a woman say "we should be cautions of men in the workplace"
/r/MensRights20/06/23 11:33 AM
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I totally understand that too. I much prefer working alone to with people. I'm pretty envious honestly. I miss the days when I could. But that's my point.. a women could make me feel as uncomfortable as a man could. And a man could make you feel as uncomfortable as a woman. So to blanket blame women for the actions of a few women, is ridiculous
/r/MensRights19/06/23 07:09 PM
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Like I said you don’t understand, and your insistence on arguing with me highlights that fully. So because I disagree, I don't understand? 🤣 Trust me. I absolutely do understand as a late 20s women, who has been often/continously harassed in workplaces. I have seen women complain about men and the women are taken off projects etc. Yes, false sa happens and its awful for the victims. But to blame an entire gender like the ex-tesco boss is ridiculous and totally a step in thr wrong direction Is he…
/r/MensRights19/06/23 07:05 PM
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Yes and that's wrong. But I'm female. And I have 100% had a similar experience but with a man. "Stay away from him, he's creepy but harmless" even when he very clearly isn't (referring to a current work colleague.- he touched my hair, backs me into corners as a joke.. I have never put a complaint it BECAUSE men would literally say "men still stop hiring women" etc. Its rampant everything, male or female Another "jokingly" SA me in front of other staff. It's the same both ways
/r/MensRights19/06/23 06:59 PM
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The only time an allegation of SA against a woman would be taken seriously was if made by another woman or minor. Unwanted touching by women to men is seen as harmless fun You know this for a fact? If a female boss touched a man and made them feel uncomfortable, it would absolutely be taken as seriously as the other way round. I don't know where you people work, bit jeez, you need new jobs And this wasn't even my point. To blanket say "stay away from women" is ridiculous when the problem was a h…
/r/MensRights19/06/23 06:55 PM
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To say you're cautions about working with women is so stupid. The issue was how the board/committee decided to handle the accusations. A man could have just as easily accused him of something, not necessarily sa related. Yet again, blaming women. I understand the point he is making. But it's aimed at the wrong group. To say "women" is so short sighted Would it be OK if a woman who was accused of SA said " Women should be cautions to work with men",
/r/MensRights19/06/23 06:43 PM
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And I agree. People should be try overcome whatever issue they have, of possible
/r/MensRights18/06/23 09:58 AM
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Right..but if all spiders looked the same. There's were millions on them everywhere. And you were told 10% will fuck you over. You'd probably be caution of all of them. Right?
/r/MensRights18/06/23 09:57 AM
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I always organise birthday cards and clean the office/desks. But I don't care..
/r/MensRights17/06/23 03:46 PM
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Ye ok that's a reasonable point. But in fairness, everyone is bias towards / against something. As a women, I can understand people who "fear" men. Generally speaking, biologically speaking.. even the weakest of men, would be able to overthrow me. It's not irrational to avoid danger. And ultimately, society has taught us to fear each other. It's such a throw away comment too. Even if I said I fear men, i obviously wouldn't be talking about alll men. It's the same as saying I'm scared of spiders.…
/r/MensRights16/06/23 03:42 PM
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But.. are you also suggesting a man, whom may have been victim of trauma from a woman, should be forced to engage with women? 🥲 It's not the healthiest of mind sets, no. But it's also not fair to victim blame either. I am someone who has been victim of a man. I'm not scared of all men. But generally speaking, I am more trusting of women. But thays biology, its innate in all of us to stick to what we know. We should absolutely try and challenge our bias. But it's not as easy as you make it sound
/r/MensRights16/06/23 02:42 PM
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Right. But everyone experiences trauma differently/goes through a healing process differently. If I, for example, didn't want to engage with men at all based on xyz. I don't see how what affects anyone other than me. And same goes for anyone who wants to ignore/not engage with women It's not to say i/you hate each other... just that we're in a process of working through trauma. And well, in the defence of the feminist in ops example, they didn't say they hated men. Just that they're cautions of …
/r/MensRights16/06/23 01:04 PM
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I suspect you’re referring to those who say they’re MGTOW and marriage isn’t worth the risk. It’s not quite the same. No, not specifically. But the feminist the OP was referring to tries to claim she “doesn’t hate men” but “loves men”. But if her exact same logic is applied to black people, she regards it as horrifically racist - ie bigoted. But she refuses to see the obvious: her views on men are also horrifically bigoted. Right. But it's a weird, flawed example. If I said, someone with a knife…
/r/MensRights16/06/23 12:56 PM
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In the west at least - anyone who is a wage slave is oppressed.
/r/MensRights16/06/23 09:01 AM
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Oh ok. Thanks for telling me what I'm here for 👍🏻 you're clearly very very smart Trauma isn’t a valid reason to ignore Men & Men’s Issues. But it is OK to ignore women when you have trauma from women? Got it 👍🏻 🤪
/r/MensRights15/06/23 10:28 PM
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Did you miss the bit where I said people should ideally try and overcome it? Or are you just choosing to ignore that? Secondly, I was actually, technically, also standing up for the men in this sub who fear and avoid women - I was agreeing it is totally rational Thirdy, I don't have untreated trauma. I'm unsure where you're imagining I said I did Are you dense
/r/MensRights15/06/23 10:20 PM
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Ye. No. I didn't say that I said choosing to avoid/ignore a group based on past trauma is valid, whether its against men or women. But ideally, one would want to overcome that You can't use quotation marks when I didn't say it 🤣
/r/MensRights15/06/23 10:06 PM
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Huh? What? When 🤣
/r/MensRights15/06/23 09:31 PM
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Sigh. And again you remind me why I don't engage You take everything as a personal attack
/r/MensRights15/06/23 09:30 PM
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Oh, hi, stalker. Check my comments like you normally do. Around 2 hours ago, someone said they distrust all women.
/r/MensRights15/06/23 09:16 PM
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Exactly 👏
/r/MensRights15/06/23 09:05 PM
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Surely, wealth is the biggest factor, no?
/r/MensRights15/06/23 08:44 PM
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I've seen many here say they don't like women. Trauma is a valid reason to want to ignore a group. Of course we should try overcome it. But it is valid..
/r/MensRights15/06/23 08:42 PM
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I don't think many men or women would deny it either 😂
/r/MensRights15/06/23 08:40 PM
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OK for real though... in the west, I don't know any man who spends that much money on a woman. I have been with my partner for several years. He occasionally buys me a drink when he go out haha.
/r/MensRights15/06/23 06:45 PM
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How did you come to that conclusion based on what i said?
/r/MensRights15/06/23 11:09 AM
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It's unclear..do you have kids? Are you in a relationship?
/r/MensRights15/06/23 09:23 AM
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"Why is there an issue with that" OK ye. You're just stupid. You can't pick a random line out a random comment in the thread to "use it against me" 🤣🤣🤣 You started whining at me before I even said that. Empathy has no value Crazy person
/r/MensRights15/06/23 08:39 AM
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You just confirming being a part of it. How. What did I say that confirmed this? I was actually saying, I empathise with what you guys go through, as it happens to me, alot. Is English your first language? No problem if not. But your reading into something that isn't there
/r/MensRights15/06/23 08:31 AM
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I didn't say there was a problem haha wooooow I was actually agreeing with OP. You guys are crazy
/r/MensRights15/06/23 08:24 AM
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It's exactly the same as OP said haha. Just the women's equivalent. Why is there an issue with that. Youre alll so sensitive
/r/MensRights15/06/23 08:10 AM
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Right. So how would any workplace ever allow that ha. The notion that anyone / anywhere would be OK with it is wild
/r/MensRights14/06/23 05:59 PM
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Do you have a source for this? I've never heard/ seen this Thanks in advance
/r/MensRights14/06/23 05:18 PM
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Well... there's only one way to solve it. Start a/get involved in a male driven body positivity movement
/r/MensRights14/06/23 05:16 PM
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Strippers at work?! Wtf? How is that appropriate ?!
/r/MensRights14/06/23 05:14 PM
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When I stand up for my rights, I'm called a "feminist" as an insult. Even though I am not one lol
/r/MensRights14/06/23 05:07 PM
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In fairness, as a women, no one has ever said it to me
/r/MensRights13/06/23 06:21 AM
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It's just an option for a private carriage. It's not a seperate train. We get seperate spaces for other private things, bathrooms. So why not privacy to sleep lol
/r/MensRights13/06/23 06:09 AM
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I can't tell If your accidentally, or intentionally agreeing with me
/r/MensRights13/06/23 05:56 AM
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What's the biggest difference in how people treat you now vs then
/r/MensRights12/06/23 10:04 PM
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Definitely a no no in Scotland
/r/MensRights12/06/23 09:50 PM
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Of course men can be masc or fem. They are both represented in the media, a lot.
/r/MensRights12/06/23 09:45 PM
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Well, if they want to, I suppose they can. Medical or not..but people should be able to choose - without external pressure
/r/MensRights12/06/23 09:34 PM
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It sounds like this is in reaction to some SA that's happened. But..in fairness, it isn't forcing people to be separate. Just giving the option on overnight trains. There should be another option for male only carriages too.
/r/MensRights12/06/23 09:22 PM
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My boyfriend manipulates me by withholding sex. It works too
/r/MensRights12/06/23 08:53 PM
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I've told female friends I am proud of them. My boyfriend has said he is proud of me once before. He was the first and only person. Honestly, I've never said it to him. I don't know why. I am often very proud. I'll be sure to say it
/r/MensRights12/06/23 08:51 PM
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I think there are some medical reasons, but I thought generally it was a religious thing? As someone who sees men, I have never come across a circumcised penis. So I don't have any first hand accounts. But same as anything, people should be able to have the choice. So to do this to child is fucking weird.
/r/MensRights12/06/23 05:49 PM
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women then say "but it's by another man!". I think the reason women try "turn it back around" as sometimes i feels women, or more specifically feminists, get the blame for mens wrongdoings/ their ongoing problems Youre right in that no one should victim blame. Its just a knee jerk response to often being told women are the problem. And often, at least in this sub, some men turn shared problems into a contest of who has it worse. Which is just silly.
/r/MensRights12/06/23 04:30 PM
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Ye. And I honestly cannot even imagine what it's like. I can only sympathise and hope / help try be part of the break down of any stigma
/r/MensRights12/06/23 04:18 PM
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1000% agree. But you forgot a bit.. but men are often treated with suspicion rather than openness by women. & men
/r/MensRights12/06/23 02:01 PM
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I find this topic interesting. I'm female. So have very little to no reference points about male friends/male loneliness. I have 2 very good friends. Both female. And an extended friendship circle of men and women, whom of which the men are closer with each other.
/r/MensRights12/06/23 01:56 PM
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I found one of these groups last night. Joined to have a look as never come across one before... The names and locations were blurred out.. It was just a photo. Is this maybe an OK middle ground? I found one for AreWeDatingTheSameGirl too. I didn't join obviously. I think these things will always be out there in some for, so regulations regarding screenshots would be the way foward
/r/MensRights12/06/23 01:35 PM
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Women think we must be sad because we don't mind being cut off from the hive. They need constant reassurance. I'm confused. Men complain their lonely, but equally, you're happy to have no friends?
/r/MensRights12/06/23 01:26 PM
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No friends is better than fake friends ha
/r/MensRights12/06/23 01:10 PM
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Why aren't men friends with other men then? This article has really confused me.
/r/MensRights12/06/23 01:08 PM
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A free pass to men.. but she won't have many females friends
/r/MensRights12/06/23 01:06 PM
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Oh god ye. I bet social interaction as a woman is far easier. I wouldn't call random conversations with random people "friends", but we are generally far more chatty and open to speaking with other women. I'm assuming he is having trouble making male friends? Most friendship starts in school right? If you don't make friends in school, you're screwed for life. That goes for men and women though tbf
/r/MensRights12/06/23 01:02 PM
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Doesn't matter what they call themselves, the institutional line is heavily feminist. Right.. so what about someone like me? I'm not a feminist as I can reason that the movement has done harm. Yet, I am someone who in lifes trys to make a solid effort to stand up for men, and women. If you caught me standing up for women on one occasion, would I be labeled in this group? It's not just London. True. If you're trying to say that media is everywhere. But you can choose what you engage with... Reall…
/r/MensRights12/06/23 10:28 AM
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Hahah welcome to my world 🤣🤣 But whenever I try to make a point about things men suffer with, online, I get treated like I just said "women deserve to be violated in both holes with a baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire". Swap the genders the other way and that's exactly how this sub reacts to me! Obviously no all, but the majority.
/r/MensRights12/06/23 10:18 AM
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Its not a thing compared to what other countries have to deal with. Only 30% of women consider themselves feminists here. And again..I was talking about my personal experience. I'm not from London ha exclusively on, and takes huge advantage of, any female tragedy and takes any opportunity to use that to call out men as violent or complicit? Bit of an exaggeration pal. What about the dismissive attitudes every time a male issue comes up in parliament? Trust me. I don't like uk government. But I d…
/r/MensRights12/06/23 10:05 AM
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Yes. But if you can't even sway me. Someone who mostly already agrees.. you really need to sharpen up some arguments. I'm suggesting we all get a little better at working together...but I'm a pushed back every time I say it. So I/outsiders can't help if we cant even engage
/r/MensRights12/06/23 10:00 AM
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I don't buy into all feminists = bad. Nor do I buy into all mra = bad. There's nuance. And let's be real. Most mra/feminists become one when they have a negative impact (perceived by them to be based in their gender) I don't have an issue with separating it where needed. Eg, a man can't be expected to know/understand the emotive impact on abortion for example. And women can't pretend to understand whatever for men But where there is crossover. Suicide, homelessness, sa, dv, why bother with the w…
/r/MensRights12/06/23 09:14 AM
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Ye. Its almost impossible to measure from a data perspective. The logic women say to men is - "when in doubt, dont". But then womne fail to follow that too
/r/MensRights12/06/23 09:10 AM
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Yes but. How can they believe you're after equality when you don't believe they are. Everyone should just drop the labels ha
/r/MensRights12/06/23 09:08 AM
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OK. They probably do, yes 😂 But who other than a feminist says that Maybe I'm spoilt. Feminism isn't a thing in the uk in the same way it is in other parts of the world
/r/MensRights12/06/23 08:31 AM
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Men and women are obviously different. Hence why I said "shared" issues lol
/r/MensRights12/06/23 08:30 AM
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Yep. People label something bollocks and never stop and think about it again🤣
/r/MensRights12/06/23 07:35 AM
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Carful. You'll get downvoted 🤣
/r/MensRights12/06/23 07:34 AM
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You knows what's really fun. At no point have I said if I agree or disagree with anything in this study. People have just assumed as always 😂
/r/MensRights12/06/23 07:17 AM
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Oh ok. Thank you
/r/MensRights11/06/23 10:20 PM
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If you assume everything is bias, how can you trust any source. If a source said "men are the most marginalised in something blah blah bla" would you question is so harshly
/r/MensRights11/06/23 09:18 PM
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But that still doesn't solve the fact that men may just not want to do that job. Men would find entry into a school that consists solely of female teachers difficult But why. With respect, when women entered the workforce and in lots of industries now, that's what we face. Yet we are told to just do it. Men are concerned about false accusations. Spending your life, scared of something that probably won't happen, is a waste.
/r/MensRights11/06/23 09:16 PM
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Well.. it is. You can question the entire study/question parts of it But if you think it's bias, you can't pick out bits you agree and don't agree with you suit what you want it to say. many organizations that specialize in women and girls do demonize Ultimately, if x or y or z women issues is the result of men. DV, SA or whatever.. then "men" obviously wouldn't come out great in any report. But same goes for anything pro man.
/r/MensRights11/06/23 09:05 PM
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OK... if men wanted to do that job. They should just do that job. You can't force people. And please don't come back with "women push them out" nonsense. Women say the same re stem and such, and men don't take thay seriously. So please no hypocrisy in your reply. Thanks It would be great if more men were teachers. I never said it wouldn't
/r/MensRights11/06/23 08:56 PM
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What about university professors? Only around 30% women. Totally irrelevant Just because you say it is, doesn't mean it is. You can't pick and choose where yoi want equality
/r/MensRights11/06/23 08:43 PM
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1000 people surveyed is usually enough to get a clear representation of the population at large. I didn't look at the study enough / thought maybe it was in German.. did it say how they selected the participants? Lots of things can cause "weird" survey answers. Online vs in person etc. I have no evidence that they are lying, but I also have no evidence that they aren't. Well, ye. That's fair. But in fairness, if they asked 1000 people. That's 1000 people more than I've asked. Given that the surv…
/r/MensRights11/06/23 08:36 PM
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Hm yes and no. A group or charity "for men and boys" wouldn't be anti equality / anti women In some areas women need a little extra support/charity, and other areas men do. Supporting one isn't anti anything in principle But I do agree and see your point. I don't like the constant separation of gender on shared issues. Muddies the waters imo
/r/MensRights11/06/23 08:32 PM
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If i say "no" you'll say I'm proving your point If i say "yes" you won't believe me ha It's good to question the source, of course. But sometimes things are just true. I'd be more interested in what the results were like if they questioned more than 1000 people.
/r/MensRights11/06/23 08:29 PM
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Being "for women and girls" doesn't inherently mean you're anti man Also, to trust the first half, and call bullshit on the second half is a little contradictory
/r/MensRights11/06/23 08:23 PM
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Ye.. but if that's true.. I've never known anyone say misandry doesn't kill men? Who says that
/r/MensRights11/06/23 08:03 PM
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Out of interest, which country you from
/r/MensRights11/06/23 07:39 PM
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I think they're rarer than people here seem to think... but not rare rare, no. With a fraction of a fraction proven false and a whole lot of "unproven one way or another" But ye. Exactly that. You can't fill in the gaps yourself based on assumptions.
/r/MensRights11/06/23 07:33 PM
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No, exactly. You can't assume anything. Assuming they were telling the truth = assuming the men were guilty Well, no.. they may not have caught the right person. Insufficient evidence doesn't mean innocence. Yes, sometimes women lie. But there are other factors which must account for some of those numbers. I stil stand by my comment.. saying there's a chance that 98% are false accusations will put people off coming foward
/r/MensRights11/06/23 07:15 PM
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We live in a society where the accused is innocent until proven Yes. Of course. But that also implies you shouldn't assume that these women are guilty of false accusations...
/r/MensRights11/06/23 07:09 PM
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Fair. But without an outsider perspective..youre all just agreeing with each all the time. And wheres the intellectual fun in that
/r/MensRights11/06/23 06:47 PM
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Did you read it?
/r/MensRights11/06/23 06:15 PM
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Same reason you are. But with a different perspective and lived experience. And people really don't like that
/r/MensRights11/06/23 06:07 PM
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I wasn't strictly speaking about you. You could be from anywhere I'm just under the impression that the majority of this sub is US
/r/MensRights11/06/23 05:47 PM
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Trust me. I would have still been downvoted. People argue with me even when state I 1000% agree 🤣 maybe it's the usa/uk lost in translation
/r/MensRights11/06/23 05:44 PM
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It should be news, you don’t get to dictate shit News as in "new". I'm not saying it shouldn't be news worthy. I'm sure you people can't read. You lot aren't complaining that there aren't enough male cleaners. Men might not want to be teachers. Same argument. Very hypocritical of you guys honesty
/r/MensRights11/06/23 05:36 PM
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I find it a little weird that you and your mother are so involved/know about his virgin-ness But I am a stiff upper lip brit But now that you are involved... maybe invite him out with you and your friends. Get into into a new social circle. Set him up on a date if you know any single women. Dating apps can be ok sometimes. Or.. if he is happy being single, and a virgin. Leave him alone.
/r/MensRights11/06/23 05:29 PM
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Ye, so? There are loads of sectors dominated by women. Thats not news
/r/MensRights11/06/23 04:40 PM
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It's always been there. But since the 60s women have been allowed to voice it.
/r/MensRights11/06/23 03:50 PM
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Generally I think it's strange fir a family to not sit together Ye it's a weird family dynamic clearly ha. But, someone in the family getting something extra isn't wrong. I recently bought my boyfriend some golf clubs, trying to encourage him to take it easy on the weekend. I don't think he'd have an issue with me taking x amount of the bank to go on a spar weekend for example I'm just unsure why the person tried to link it to feminism at all. Clearly a strange woman
/r/MensRights11/06/23 03:14 PM
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they’re not moving against AWDTSG are they. And yet they can hardly say they’re unaware of them. OK. But who is "they"? Who do you think will fix this for you. Men being against it clearly isn't enough. You need to get women on board. There is a dual standard here, and you know it. Yeah..am I'm not disputing that. Men and womne are held to different standards for everything.
/r/MensRights11/06/23 02:52 PM
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may slip under the radar Yeah.. so why not tackle the entire problem and not just the big pages? They'll only pop up again called something else.
/r/MensRights11/06/23 02:38 PM
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What do you think their intentions are
/r/MensRights11/06/23 02:37 PM
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Right. But my point is, how can this be tackled
/r/MensRights11/06/23 02:31 PM
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But again. Why are we so far off topic ha do you think Facebook would long tolerate a page dedicated to doing that about women? And no probably not. Neither are ok. What's your point? That Facebook is misandric
/r/MensRights11/06/23 02:25 PM
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“Am I dating a hoe”? No. But in fairness these aren't called "am I dating a man slag" either. Where random guys put up pictures of women from dating sites and then proceed to say all kinds of s#it You can't deny this happens though.. but just on a smaller level. Neither are ok. It’s not just the women who join those pages that are man haters!! I accept that these pages aren't cool. But can also reason that not everyone on them is a man hater.
/r/MensRights11/06/23 02:24 PM
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The article is stupid and has nothing to do with feminism. The fact she had the more expensive flight isn't even the problem for me. If thats fact people feel the need to post about such crap
/r/MensRights11/06/23 02:17 PM
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If you hadn't ignored half of my response.. I HAVE seen this happen to women. But also said, not to the same level as you guys. Again... how do you stop it? You can tackle the big groups. But I'm suggesting it happens in small ones too.
/r/MensRights11/06/23 01:54 PM
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I didn't say what these women are doing is ok 😂 Jesus christ With photos, bio and chats? I'm sure it happens, yes. In fact I have seen it. A screenshot of some women's tinder profile. They just don't appear in groups that are obvious. Have you ever talked about a "crazy ex" to your mates? It's the same. Except this is on a wide, more public level. Women are more drawn to these kinds of interactions... kt doesn't make it right. But how do you stop it? And again... why did you go wildly off topic?…
/r/MensRights11/06/23 01:40 PM
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Is this not misandry to you? For one. I never once said women aren't misandric. Dont make things up. It's silly and just proves to me and everyone you have no real arguments For two, its probably misandric yeah. But then, therefore, so is every man who publicly talks crap about a woman. Your comment hugely sidestepped anything I said. Why try strawman me? 🤣
/r/MensRights11/06/23 01:34 PM
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Right. But we were talking about which is more likely to kill/hurt feelings. I'd say men and women both demonise each other You have kind of proved my point.... The issue is, op kept saying "they" do this to men etc. Everyone here says "they/society"... not realising YOU make up 50 %. Its honestly confuses me who the "enemy" is
/r/MensRights11/06/23 01:23 PM
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So me suggesting that some men, don't like other men...makes me feminist Explain please
/r/MensRights11/06/23 01:18 PM
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Maybe. Who knows. But two things can be true. More women can hate men, and men can have internalised misdandry. But in fairness.. some of ops examples. Men are more likely to send men to war.. not 100% true ofc. But more likely yes. Mens loneliness isn't solely womens fault either . Suicide.. access to help is a problem of course.. but then you have to look at who is in you government. I don't see how misandric women are more can fault than some of these men
/r/MensRights11/06/23 01:16 PM
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Internalised misandry
/r/MensRights11/06/23 01:00 PM
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But.. I'm right. All you guys say is "Society hates us, Society loves women" But for that to me true you're suggesting men hate men. You might be right.. but is that misandry? I'm not a feminist, but maybe they got a point lol.
/r/MensRights11/06/23 12:53 PM
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Erm. I mean, you're right. Kind of Does it really count as misdandry if men make other men go to war & men impact others' men's loneliness, etc. Internalised misdandry maybe?
/r/MensRights11/06/23 12:47 PM
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Oh ok. You can't answer, so you run away. typical woman. Again.. there is no such thing
/r/MensRights10/06/23 12:02 PM
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Please show me where I said men don't struggle
/r/MensRights10/06/23 11:53 AM
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And here you are laughing at it. Sigh. You're not worth talking you The avarage men's experience is far worse than the avarage women's I specifically wasn't speaking about "average." And even with you throwing the word average in.. its still impossible to measure. Unless you have data on All people in the entire world. We are more lonely, people keep distance with us, we're faced with immidiate contempt, rejection and outright hostility Well.. all those things are true for women too. So what met…
/r/MensRights10/06/23 11:47 AM
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Even if she was treated worce (Norah vincent) ... that doesnt prove the very important All part 😂 Watched redpill. Again... doesn't prove the all part
/r/MensRights10/06/23 11:36 AM
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That's a dumb take
/r/MensRights10/06/23 11:16 AM
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To blanket say All women are treated better than All men is a wild perspective
/r/MensRights10/06/23 11:14 AM
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What's wrong with the word female.
/r/MensRights10/06/23 11:13 AM
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I can't dispute that. My known experience is the same
/r/MensRights09/06/23 11:13 PM
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🤣🤣🤣
/r/MensRights09/06/23 10:20 PM
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So I am probably a troll, because I probably like to have fun. I haven't done any manipulating whatsoever. And I'm surprised you think that's even possible. I do like to have fun
/r/MensRights09/06/23 06:03 PM
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Oh ok. And why would someone do that ha
/r/MensRights09/06/23 05:25 PM
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You know my age.. Deffo a stalker
/r/MensRights09/06/23 05:10 PM
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🤣🤣 Not you again. My stalker We were mates the other day, wat happened For your information, reddit does not equal the internet
/r/MensRights09/06/23 04:23 PM
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No they’re not an MRA by default. Women are human. So a feminist who only cares about women can claim to be interested in “human rights Good point, even if a little pedantic 😂 Honestly, I steer clear of labels. No group can represent my views fully. So I just say I'm trying to help everyone 😂
/r/MensRights09/06/23 03:46 PM
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The worst part is that people actually believe that the one study or article that they cite is irrefutable evidence,and that there is nothing to debate. Oh man, yeah. Extremely frustrating that they think a little Google and a quick share means they have "won". It's scary to think other morons click those links and believe them. I think it is fine if people want to cite an article or a single study,but they need to be able to understand the strength of the evidence that they are providing.The ar…
/r/MensRights09/06/23 03:30 PM
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Well exactly. Anyone who is interested in humans rights is by default an MRA to some extend. But talk is much different to action. People need to work together across the board on the big issues that affect everyone.. Look up the honey badgers, Karen Straughn, Erin Prizzey, Janice Fiamengo just to name a few. Also, thank you. Also happy to learn something
/r/MensRights09/06/23 03:26 PM
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I made this point earlier today. But I didn't say mra should join with feminism. But mra should join with women and female activist. Not all women and equally, not all people who fight for women's rights are feminists I feel building on existing momentum parts of women's movements have can only be a positive thing. E.g, "end women's homelessness" just becomes "end homelessness" There are groups out there that aren't full of feminists, and would be sympathic to mens issues. There's an awful lot o…
/r/MensRights09/06/23 02:36 PM
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Yep. 1000% agree. Most links shared on the Internet are total shite. You can "prove" 2 opposite ideas are true in a few clicks. I saw someone link their own comment once as "evidence". Unfortunately,I also think people forget 2 things can both be true. Me say x doesn't mean your y isn't true. People take everything as an attack
/r/MensRights09/06/23 02:33 PM
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Sure.. but people have emotions that are connected to household tasks. Stress
/r/MensRights09/06/23 10:59 AM
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Why don't men complain about emotional labour then? Or if you prefer "household duties". I'm not talking strictly about housework. If you don't know what I mean, it's because you don't have any emotional labour. Looking after a sick relative, keeping track of fam appointments This isn't a feminist thing. This is just a thing,
/r/MensRights09/06/23 10:50 AM
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Whining about manual labour is very much a MRA trope. Who gives a shit. If its valid, its valid
/r/MensRights09/06/23 10:40 AM
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It's emotional labour if you assume you have to do these things to benefit the other people in the house. Taking kids to school, washing clothes, booking appointments.. making sure people get to said appoints, meal prep..shopping I'm not saying any of it is hard. But it is more things that one person has to think about on top of working themselves. Surely splitting it up is better lol. I didn't realise that would be controversial 🤣 It is emotional labour. All people need a break. One person gets…
/r/MensRights09/06/23 07:49 AM
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I think emotional labour IS a valid point, occasionally. As you could argue the man in your example was also suffering under emotional labour I know a couple, disabled kid. Both parents work, both have "safe jobs", the guys job IS more stressful, but again, most similar The woman, takes on all responsibility for the kid, the housework, the diy. This isn't heresy, I have witness this The man's excuses is "he works around 15 more hours a week at work". Maybe their relationship is just shitty. But …
/r/MensRights09/06/23 06:49 AM
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I didn't say totally eradication was possible. But the attempt to avoid is possible. Just a random example that's I've come across. Pro lifers will say "ban abortion ban abortion ban abortion" campaign against it etc But.. less effort is put into "free contraception", "sex ed", or whatever.. In the west, its absolutely possible to house the homeless. We choose not to. But it's also possible to build society in a way which is less likely to cause homelessness..
/r/MensRights09/06/23 06:43 AM
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If you were a little passive guy, you would probably experience the same thing a woman does: it's not because they are women, Ye I do agree. But if the same women were to forcibly speak over a man, she'd be called bossy. But i agree..being talked over is exclusively female Men are competitive by nature most women just aren't in the race. I agree with this too. We work differently, therefore approach these things differently. not something done maliciously Agreed Trans-men obviously take on chara…
/r/MensRights09/06/23 06:28 AM
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But you're also making the assumption that all women seek help Again.. youre focusing on the wrong thing
/r/MensRights08/06/23 10:17 PM
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Trust me. I hear what you are saying But why are we also so focused on the symptom and not the cause. It shouldn't be a contest about who gets more support after something bad happens. Its should be a collective effort to reduce the bad thing
/r/MensRights08/06/23 10:06 PM
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What arena specifically do you mean though? I might agree. I don't know We were talking about OP. Man doesn't like woman because of bad experiences That happens the other way just as much..
/r/MensRights08/06/23 09:44 PM
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Yeah, absolutely. Suppose it's an issue when you're not passive and still talked over. A lot of it is, of course, down to individual personalities. I could say it happens because I'm a woman (the only woman in the room, and the only person it seems to happen to) but I'm not certain it's because I'm a woman. It could be other factors
/r/MensRights08/06/23 09:41 PM
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Ye. Even the negative things I mentioned above.. I don't believe it's even intentional half the time. I probably treat men differently to how I treat the women I work with.
/r/MensRights08/06/23 09:23 PM
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Truly I wouldn't know if that's universally true. Just a theory based on other jobs I've had. The meeting topic might be relevant too. In my experience, women are better at details and men are better at bigger picture stuff.
/r/MensRights08/06/23 09:18 PM
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Remember that avrg women are better looking than avrg men. Yes to be fair. That's a very very valid point. No offence guys 🤣 with make up, and hair extentions, we have it FAR easier there. Create dating profile with avrg men and see how easy it is. I mean real avrg dude I am really sympathetic to the trouble you have dating. Me and a friend tested this. I got 1700 swipes in a day.. my friend got 10. But.... there IS a downside to that. My friend knows those 10 really like him. Men swipe everyone…
/r/MensRights08/06/23 09:14 PM
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I think it depends who holds the majority. If there are more women, men will get spoken over and vice versa. I think herd mentality I can only speak from experience, but I will often be the only woman on the room, middling level in hierarchy. Sometimes the boss takes the boys under his wing, so he will encourage them to speak. As the meeting continues, I haven't got a word in. Also, unsure if relevant, I physically take up less space, I am peitie, so I have less of a presence. The talk football,…
/r/MensRights08/06/23 09:03 PM
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Depends where you work. I work in a place where men apologise for swearing in front of me. I find that way more offensive than the swearing. Sometimes its pretty obvious I am treated differently to the dudes. Talked over in meetings, told to make teas and coffees etc Obviously I'll do as much as anyone to chip in. But times where it is blatantly because of my gender, I stand my ground.. and get called "aggressive and bossy" But I have also worked in places I am 100% treated the same as everyone …
/r/MensRights08/06/23 08:39 PM
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Youre missing my point Whether you like to acknowledge it or not. Lots of men's and womens issues overlap. So to pretend this is a Man thing is dishonest, and frankly, pointless
/r/MensRights08/06/23 08:28 PM
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catcalling It happens to me occasionally. Less and less as the years go on 😂 I personally didn't have a problem with it tbf. But I GUESS some people might take issue. mansplaining But christ.. I dont know if I just happened to have worked with some morons or what..but trust me, there are some men who do this. Or they'll talk to my boyfriend past me like I'm not capable of grasping the concept. These men are the outliers. So I don't blame "men" I blame THOSE men 😂
/r/MensRights08/06/23 08:06 PM
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I'm not a feminist. the "good" parts of feminism no where near outweigh the flaws But, as you say, men and women are absolutely treated differently, because we're different. Sometimes how we are treated negatively or positively impacts us. And often the negative stuff feels unfair and we blame it on how people perceive our gender. But we forget how privileged we can be because of our gender. It's all relative. I have seen real world sexism against men and women. Usually the sexist is a moron, so…
/r/MensRights08/06/23 07:58 PM
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Being legally tied to someone kind of ruins the romance too. I'd rather stay and be together out of love, not a contract
/r/MensRights08/06/23 07:43 PM
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To your first point, yes, because empathy for men is severely lacking Ye.. women, as we know, are pretty active in the arguing for women's rights thing. So they already have the platform to build on. And most reasonable people understand that rape and homelessness and other things affects everyone, not only women. Having a separate day, event, talk, whatever for mens this, women's that, is good in some ways as each topic individually gets the same attention. But it also distracts and people divi…
/r/MensRights08/06/23 07:42 PM
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Well it’s important because men’s issues get next to no attention in the media and attention needs to be drawn to issues men suffer from disproportionately But wouldn't the issue get more attention if included in whatever current momentum there is for women If the issue is on principle, then fair. Have a seperate man and women's everything But its its to legitimately help people, then you surely should want to do everything to highlight it to everyone Not saying women’s issues are not important …
/r/MensRights08/06/23 04:45 PM
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Right.. but it's doesn't account for or even attempt to explain the increase of Trans Men. You can't say feminism is the cause of Trans Women without addressing the Men
/r/MensRights08/06/23 04:16 PM
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My post was actually about how all people judge and label each other too quickly. Men and women have more in common that we think when it comes to these issues. I don't see the problem in extending my empathy... but I guess you do. So fuck me right
/r/MensRights08/06/23 03:29 PM
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Men date and marry avrg women, just look around. Women marry and date Men, but you'd argue women don't care about men. So I'll rephrase. Do men, generally, as a group, care about average women? Yea. Internet and cheap transort doesnt give you biggest bufet you can imagine. Same for men though
/r/MensRights08/06/23 03:20 PM
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My argument would be that those are things where men are overlooked. Ye I agree. They need to be advocated and "uplifted" more. But I still don't see the argument for separating it..
/r/MensRights08/06/23 02:06 PM
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10000% agree.
/r/MensRights08/06/23 01:58 PM
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I don't even understand her response 🤣
/r/MensRights08/06/23 01:54 PM
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Lol duh. But not according to OP Unless it's Gender dysphoria for Trans Men and Feminist for Trans Women.
/r/MensRights08/06/23 01:49 PM
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I have a question. You said this ; Men's rights also include specific issues that affect men disproportionately or exclusively, And then went on to list some things that are "shared issued" Male rape, domestic violence against men, male suicide, male homelessness, Can someone help me out. What is the necessity of trying to affect change for these only for men? Isn't it more beneficial for everyone to fight fight for everyone? Please understand, I would say the same to a feminist who only advocat…
/r/MensRights08/06/23 01:32 PM
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He is suggesting that feminism is actively in pursuit of male genocide. But he is ignoring Trans men to make him argument.
/r/MensRights08/06/23 01:19 PM
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But when women doesnt want to date, they are told that they are too good for all men, while for men - they are told to pick better and level up to find right one. Women will back up women. And men will back up other men. That's only natural. Imagine having countless options and still not be able to pick any decent men. There is no supprises in this. Women don't all have countless options... Difference is that women usualy dont care about avrg men, so in their mind they have much worst, beacuse t…
/r/MensRights08/06/23 01:09 PM
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Ok. Now explain the existence of Trans Men
/r/MensRights08/06/23 11:57 AM
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Women are supported in opting out. Women have support when they are victims, men must "men up" and find "right" women who he would praise and give her even more. Yes, I understand what you're saying to be fair. We are more likely to be "accepted" for our views. But, on the flip side. We are also called spinsters/crazy cat ladies/we're overly sensitive Even if there would be called man hater, its from small group. That group is bigger than you might think...
/r/MensRights08/06/23 11:30 AM
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deliberately manipulated for ideological reasons, which is why nearly everything in feminism does not stand up to scrutiny or empirical evidence. We are agreeing. But I'm also stating that everyone does this. Not only feminists. I check out most things I am told to check it out. Often, the person on the other side is talking shit. It happens in this sub a lot.
/r/MensRights08/06/23 10:56 AM
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But that's the thing... if someone wants those qualities, how does that impact anyone else? They can ge delusional all the want. Who cares? There's a stereotype than men want a skinny, long brown hair, virgin etc. Even if all those things were true, who cares... someone's preference doesn't impact me at all
/r/MensRights08/06/23 10:35 AM
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Just don't try to extrapolate it to others, thereby invalidating their lived experiences I agree. No one should do that lol. That's my point Even then, the entire situation is an appeal to emotion, which is the cornerstone of feminism, and seems to crop up in a lot of women's thought process. That, and projection 🤣 And my other point - stats and figures that cannot be proven/are bias, is as good as anecdotes. Whether it be a man or woman saying it
/r/MensRights08/06/23 10:26 AM
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Yes, but "exceptional" and "average l" is all relative too. I might think someone is average, and someone else thinks their hot af
/r/MensRights08/06/23 10:24 AM
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Ye I get that. But, men are allowed to have preferences too And we are allowed to accept or reject people based on whether they do or don't meet preferences And personal preference is just that, personal I know you didn't say this but - if I've slept with 10000 people and I'm 6fti I can't change that to try be accepted by someone I like 🤣 the idea of shaming phyaical preferences is crazy to me
/r/MensRights08/06/23 10:17 AM
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People here have attempted to use stats to tell me my LIVED experience is wrong and I therefore must be lying. Avoid stats all you want I don't avoid them in the real world. Just when speaking to people online. You can prove anything you want if you Google enough
/r/MensRights08/06/23 09:58 AM
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Usa is weird. Common law doesn't exist the in UK
/r/MensRights08/06/23 09:04 AM
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True enough. But no one is calling the feminist movement a ‘hate group’. You can’t so much as participate in discourse on this subreddit without getting banned from many others because they consider it a ‘hate group’. Ye that's a good point well made. Men are blamed for practically every relationship issue, even in cases where the woman in said relationship cheats. If a man cheats, he’s an ass. If a woman cheats, he’s an ass. There is a sick notion in society that somehow women can do no wrong a…
/r/MensRights08/06/23 08:39 AM
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My point is, it's relative Women will have it harder in X Men in Y This entire sub is men saying women have it easy, while their life sucks. And it's ridiculous. Was just checking you were one of those I suppose 🤣
/r/MensRights08/06/23 08:36 AM
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OK chill. I didn't disagree that men have it bad in many areas. Was just wondering why you seemed to say women have the perfect life... you were comparing the two. Not me
/r/MensRights08/06/23 08:31 AM
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I'm sorry.. but someone needs to say this Yes, it sucks ass that the women you have encountered have been terrible. And it's good that you want to overcome trauma and move on with your life. But. Its worth noting. That women also face this, so this isn't strictly a man's issue. A woman can have awful experiences with men, and therefore want to avoid them/dislike them as a group. And when they express this, they're labelled a "feminist man hater" People are too quick to judge other people. Dont w…
/r/MensRights08/06/23 07:48 AM
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I'm sorry.... but who cares about what someones height preference is? And I also don't understand why society is obsessed with bc.
/r/MensRights08/06/23 07:12 AM
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Men here don't like the hear the FACT that women attempt it more. It doesn't fit with their world view.
/r/MensRights08/06/23 06:49 AM
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No one has it harder. The world is bad for everyone except the rich and powerful
/r/MensRights08/06/23 06:48 AM
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Or are the qualifiers different between men and women? Duh. Of course 😅 Like if a man calls and says "Im going to kill myself unless we get back together" - do they count that too? Ye.. People here like to pretend that doesn't happen. But it really really really really does.
/r/MensRights08/06/23 06:46 AM
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Ye.. most people I know Reference for the below, I'm female, and lots of my friends are I don't have kids. But my parter does. We're not married. All 5 of my siblings, have children with their partner, non of them are married. In the past 12 months, 3 of my friends have had babies with their boyfriends... no weddings. I am late twenties. And hardly anyone I know its married. I am going to a wedding next month, for a Co worker. All of the older ladies are flapping and excited. No one under 40 giv…
/r/MensRights08/06/23 05:56 AM
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Because resources for men are officially scarce, and, in practice, not available Yes. I agree there are far more services for women, which is really fucking bad and stupid But that doesn't prove anything. It proves society cares less, fine. But it doesn't prove women don't need those services at that level My point is.. let's say everyone had total equal access to help. That would increase men getting help, but wouldn't decrease women using the services. The fact that is affects men. Doesn't dis…
/r/MensRights08/06/23 05:50 AM
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Sidestepping the main issue here almost entirely... Its funny to me that anyone brings up stats. Someone will find a stat to prove their world voew. And when presented with a stat that doesnt prove their view, its labelled bias I avoid stats like the plauge.
/r/MensRights08/06/23 05:44 AM
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Sigh. I just dont think you guys just don't like the idea of women getting promotion or employed. You seem to be arguing how it's basically "ok" if a company discriminates against them on this topic.
/r/MensRights08/06/23 05:35 AM
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And yet I don't see feminists complaining about how men are "forced" to work in physically intensive / demanding / dangerous / dirty jobs Technically speaking. No one is forced to do anything. We have free will We are using the word "forced" differently I am saying women aren't given a choice that they're discriminated against (being discounted from employment/promoting at risk of them getting pregnant) But technically no one is forced to work in the west at least. Women are more likely to work …
/r/MensRights08/06/23 05:32 AM
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OK. So where do you think school shoots come from. Whay causes them I don't know why you're so scared about someone saying that there might be a link. Or would you say "that's one woman who committed one murder, she cannot possibly represent the whole of womanhood"? I'd say why the fuck are people trying to make excuses for murderers. Man or woman
/r/MensRights08/06/23 05:26 AM
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Sigh. Do you know what would justify "looking into incel groups"? I didn't justify anything. Just that that's WHY it happens in response o the original post. I didn't say I agreed with any of it. Chill out
/r/MensRights08/06/23 05:22 AM
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Youre definitely on the list now then 😂
/r/MensRights07/06/23 10:33 PM
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I'm not even sure what you're argument is. Do you think "social rejects" - your words, engage in incel groups and/groups used by incels or not? You've contradicted yourself a few times. Do you know what's radicalised means? Are you ok 😂 My original comment was regarding the government looking into incel groups. By trying to disprove me, you're by extention trying to disprove them. So you're going to need a stronger argument than "🤡
/r/MensRights07/06/23 10:16 PM
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No. They meant to use quotations "...." or similar acorss that entire sentence. English isn't their first language
/r/MensRights07/06/23 10:11 PM
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citation needed] Not a great source, but still - https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jan/03/glorification-plymouth-shooter-incels-prompts-calls-for-action I'll keep looking though. Asking for citation is valid. As I understand it, a lot of these shooters are social rejects, so is it any wonder that they would find their way to a forum for other social rejects? Well ye.. thats what I said. Social rejects go to incel forums. Blaming school shootings on incels because the …
/r/MensRights07/06/23 09:56 PM
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I understand that you're saying Men are disproportionately affected in this as women cry harder. BUT. That doesn't excuse anyone doing it to anyone
/r/MensRights07/06/23 09:41 PM
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I kind of agree.. but most of the time, these groups label themselves. And the others side end up using that given label as an insult.
/r/MensRights07/06/23 09:40 PM
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Yeah. I actually don't disagree. But again... why do you think staring/being stared a is ok? Lol
/r/MensRights07/06/23 09:35 PM
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Why You might be right, but I wanna know why you think that
/r/MensRights07/06/23 09:28 PM
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I agree with 98% of what you've just said. Hundreds of thousands men die on ukraine vs russia war? no one cares. Except this. People really really really do care. The left the right, hell, even some feminist care. There are lots of anti war people out there regardless of other political beliefs. And people/women care about men we know. Eg, my brothers, father, partners, friends. The empathy gap, I think, comes into play when it's about men we don't know. For exmaple...Stats that show Men are unf…
/r/MensRights07/06/23 09:22 PM
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You mean the woman's reaction, or general society? You might be right. But it doesn't excuse intentionally making people uncomfortable. I get that discomfort is "their" problem and not "yours". But what good reason would you have for staring anyway? When someone is minding their own business But I'm sure you can picture a situation where you feel anxious because someone from across a room is staring at you. For no good reason. If you can ignore them, great. But lots of people can't. And all peop…
/r/MensRights07/06/23 09:05 PM
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Divided and conquer. They love it when we don't agree. Means we throw stones at each other rather than point the finger at them Unfortunately, most people buy into
/r/MensRights07/06/23 09:00 PM
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So are feminsts groups terrorists? I didn't say incels were terror groups so thays an unfair comparison. Just that those who engage in Terror have a cross over in some of the extremist in there. I'd therefore also say that extremists in feminism, may have terror overlaps. I wouldn't say the groups themselves are dangerous, more than they can harbour dangerous people in them.. as they find others who uplift them and validate their crazy views
/r/MensRights07/06/23 08:57 PM
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You're totally correct. The "left" has huge spectrum of views. There's a ultra woke crowd who usually get wrongly labeled feminist, which is equivalent to the ultra right (racist, homophobes etc) There's middle left, central left etc. There's so much cross over in the middle both sides re policy. But only the extreme get media attention/are therefore also loudest online... causing more people to hate the other side.
/r/MensRights07/06/23 08:54 PM
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Woman is uncomfortable No, not women. ANYONE. A man can stare at a man, a woman a woman. A woman a man. But it's fucking creepy This isn't all about men looking at women. It's about respecting the fact people don't want to be watched. It's weird and unnecessary. Especially when someone is just minding their own business
/r/MensRights07/06/23 08:43 PM
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This issue is consent. If I go to a gym, I don't go to flirt with men, I go to exercise. A guy looking at a girl's boobs is "creepy" yet if that same girl went around literally groping random guys on the street, no-one would care That's true. But it's doesn't make either of them right or OK.
/r/MensRights07/06/23 08:40 PM
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But why would you want to do something that makes another person uncomfortable?
/r/MensRights07/06/23 08:31 PM
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In fairness.. school shooters are often radicalised by incels forums. Its a thing. They mix in those circles. The group who is most likely to be radicalised is young, under socialised men. It's how those how government terror agencies work. They pump funding and special op resources where a problem might occur. Like Minority Report
/r/MensRights07/06/23 08:26 PM
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It‘s like a backhand defense of corporations. It lets them off the hook, by making them out to be irrationally sexist, rather than you know, after our money. Most of this sub is basically this 😂 men blame women, women blame men, when in reality, it's them companies and governments with power that's the problem.
/r/MensRights07/06/23 07:49 PM
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A glance is one thing But staring is strange. A woman staring at a man would be equally creepy.
/r/MensRights07/06/23 07:08 PM
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You think depression and suicidal thoughts only affect men.......?
/r/MensRights07/06/23 05:29 PM
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Ye I understand you. But my point is.. its not a bias any woman can tackle, unless she is "too old". Even if someone didn't want kids, they'll always be an assumption they do or "they'll change their mind". It's something women can't escape. It's not the same as having Wednesdays off. It's a woman being directly, financially penalised for - even often when it's a family choice to have a kids. I get what you're saying. It's 1 factor in a million. But it's such a big one
/r/MensRights07/06/23 03:38 PM
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Sorry.. I meant what I said. Let's assume I am StrongER than a man. But of child bearing age. Who would you hire?
/r/MensRights07/06/23 02:49 PM
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But what about your truck analogy? You seemed to suggested men are always preferred?
/r/MensRights07/06/23 02:47 PM
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Does that prove there is a wage gap? Sure So.. as part of your responds to "easily disprove" the wage gap. You have admitted it is real And somehow this has become proof that women everywhere are discriminated... This is where we're not agreeing. I don't know anyone (even feminist) who say everyone woman is affected. They're clearly not, even based on questionable data.
/r/MensRights07/06/23 02:31 PM
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Ye totally. There are some jobs that require xyz trait, or wheres it is advantageous at least But in my scenario. I could be a strong woman competing against a weak man. And the man would still get it. Based on the fact I am a womb
/r/MensRights07/06/23 02:26 PM
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OK serious question now. I'm not trying to "troll" or whatever you think I am Do you think that women of child bearing age, shouldn't be employed? While simultaneously asserting there is no wage gap?
/r/MensRights07/06/23 02:07 PM
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I don't think you understand how business works.. There is no "wrong truck"
/r/MensRights07/06/23 02:01 PM
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Deflection. I told you about that yesterday You said you could "very easily disprove it". So I'm unsure what's stopping you
/r/MensRights07/06/23 01:58 PM
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It's impossible to answer without going deeply into morality politics I think the state has a duty to house, feed, and keep its citizens healthy. Regardless of social status. And part of that, is funding child care, which allows and helps people (yes, men too) into work Companies have a duty of care to its staff. Legally. H&S being a huge example
/r/MensRights07/06/23 01:52 PM
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Funny you should mention that specific situation, because I am experiencing it right now. Ooh spooky. Sorry to hear that, honestly. I am very much on the side of workers rights. Always. Glad to hear they're getting sued. A company doesn't make a woman pregnant, that's her choice. But the company IS responsible for making the workplace safe so you don't get injured. Youre right. But, a choice to have children, shouldn't mean you can't earn good money. And like my example, this happens even when w…
/r/MensRights07/06/23 01:47 PM
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Truck A has a history of breaking down and therefore being unable to be used. I then need to rent another truck to do the job and pay for the repairs as well. Truck B has a reputation for never breaking down which means I will save the cost of repairs and rental. Which Truck would it be Insane to purchase? This is EXACTLY the same situation for the company as your example. Being a woman, doesn't mean you will have children. So
/r/MensRights07/06/23 01:44 PM
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OK. Disprove it
/r/MensRights07/06/23 01:43 PM
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Maybe it is sexism?! Again, where have I suggested it isn't?
/r/MensRights07/06/23 01:41 PM
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Woman hatinf and a Conservative. How cliché
/r/MensRights07/06/23 01:39 PM
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Right.. so. Let's say you have a senior role in a company. You have a life changing injury which makes you less ideal (mobility issues) to do your job, but still capable.. its a companies duty to make reasonable adjustments to help you fulfil your role (in the uk that's true at least). Let's say they don't do that, and just fire you instead ... you'd be ok with that? It's these sorts of decisions businesses have to make. Haha yes. I am aware🤣 And what about my situation? A woman, has no desire f…
/r/MensRights07/06/23 01:32 PM
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But.. is that also to suggest that someone who has additional needs, mobility say, shouldn't be hired/promoted as they may cost more money? And also to suggest that women of child bearing age shouldn't be given opportunity out of risk they'll have a child? That's insane
/r/MensRights07/06/23 01:24 PM
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That is not a unconscious bias It literally is. It's making an assumption based on identity.. t looks like a cold hard look at the costs of promoting someone that is potentially not going to be there doing the job they are paid for, which will lead to their duties being passed onto someone else or needing to pay a temp to do the work. Yes. But that contributes to the wage gap... And IS discrimination. Technically and legally I for example, have no children, and don't intend to any time soon. If …
/r/MensRights07/06/23 01:06 PM
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Sigh. At no point did I say "men shouldn't have a page" "men should get less funding" At every single point along this thread, I have very much been in agreement with everyone.
/r/MensRights07/06/23 12:55 PM
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I agree with your comment, mostly. Youre right that's its down to chosen careers and working hours. And I agree it isn't a huge issue. But.the problem comes when women aren't given the choice. E.g being "forced" to work certain hours because the public child care system is so badly funded. Or unconscious bias - in my work place, I have legitimately heard a senior staff member say they were concerned about promoting someone as they had recently had a child, and would likely have another soon. Imp…
/r/MensRights07/06/23 12:17 PM
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The point being "men mean it, women do it for attention"" right. It's horrendously offensive whatever way you look at it.
/r/MensRights07/06/23 09:07 AM
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No, of course not. For one I said Western medicine. And secondly, it's a valid point, in a later thread I did correct myself to say "most", instead of All. But generally speaking, in the western world, men, have been the primary target of medical research and therefore funding and testing. To clarify, I haven't said if this is right or wrong. Instead it's just a statement lol
/r/MensRights07/06/23 07:46 AM
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Right so please explain slowly. Which gender do you think medicine historical used to test on? If you say men, you agree If you say women, you contradict your previous comment
/r/MensRights07/06/23 07:03 AM
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I'm not sure I do. You appear to be agreeing with me.. but that can't be right
/r/MensRights07/06/23 06:58 AM
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You just said it was the guinea pig and men...? Which do you think it was? Very little of it was voluntary. I never said it was voluntary?
/r/MensRights07/06/23 06:06 AM
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In fairness to you, I grabbed the first thing Google threw up. There was ALOT there to choose from. I didn't painstakingly look over the source. My point was mostly that there is a lot of sources out there to look at. And funnily, but unsurprisingly, you did exactly as I predicted. Labelled it bias. female authors This doesn't make something unreliable. If it did, is that to suggest I should discount what men say? Just look into it on your own.
/r/MensRights06/06/23 11:23 PM
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OK. Go ahead. What would you like me to prove.
/r/MensRights06/06/23 11:08 PM
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The fact you're too lazy to use Google.... Whatever I share will be labelled feminist crap or bias. Please don't rely on people sharing link to learn stuff. Independent research is a good idea..
/r/MensRights06/06/23 11:07 PM
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Well, I can share dozens of links easily, for example https://insightplus.mja.com.au/2021/39/why-are-males-still-the-default-subjects-in-medical-research/ But whenever I do that, people then accuse those sites of being feminist. So to avoid that, I'd recommend you look into it. "Only cater for" was probably bad wording. "Mostly" is probably better. I think feminist history begins to be perceived as “common sense” and gets taken for granted like the wage gap even when it’s still just another clai…
/r/MensRights06/06/23 11:04 PM
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OK ye. Youre 100% a troll.
/r/MensRights06/06/23 10:54 PM
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It's fun that you're not addressing anything I actually say.. instead just harassing me.. I don't believe you actually have anything to add. So why are you here ?
/r/MensRights06/06/23 10:53 PM
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Typical deflection.. It's interesting you say that.. you harassing me, even though I haven't disagreed with you. Your picking out the irrelevant parts of my text to make what point? more projection from an emotional child. You said in another post yesterday, that I made you emotional... I'm confused ha No, I'm presuming that based on your idiot comments. Your interpretation isn't necessarily factly accurate. LOL, you're in our space so GFY. Fair point. But I'm unsure why you're choosing to troll…
/r/MensRights06/06/23 10:51 PM
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This is a strange question. What's the intention? To see if people value pets above men? Has anyone ever said Pets?
/r/MensRights06/06/23 10:47 PM
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OK. So why do you think there is a women's site and not a Man's? And please spare me the obvious "Society doesn't care about men" stance. I'm actually starting to think you're a troll
/r/MensRights06/06/23 10:37 PM
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Maybe you should dig deeper before voicing opinions... That goes for me and 99% or this sub in fairness. People seem to make assumptions and get mad about them I also didn't say at any point that there shouldn't be a Man's page, or they shouldn't get more funding. Youre assuming I'm an idiot. Move along
/r/MensRights06/06/23 10:35 PM
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But how can you assert that? For hundreds of years, only men were catered for in medicine, all funding and research went to men, and women were locked away in asylums ha. I know we're after equality for now instead of looking back, but it could be women's research needs some catch up time, hence a seperate site. Men suffer more illness than women, women have natural stronger immunity. So it makes sense to fund men's health more.. but women were lacking for hundreds of years, which is eons in sci…
/r/MensRights06/06/23 10:18 PM
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I think a site dedicated to men would be a good thing. However I wouldn't say the absence of one is malicious. I just did some googling and very quickly came across a lot of studies linked to the main site regarding- fixing any health funding disparities between the genders (eg, making sure men's funding doesn't suffer while women's funding increases) I am uk, and of course Google first highlighted uk sites, and I was actually pleasantly surprised to see Male specific things come up. So I can un…
/r/MensRights06/06/23 10:12 PM
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I have noticed this before. But assumed it was because the Male body was the default in medicine throughout Western history? Therefore Women/women's medical groups set up a place to combat that in the late 80s? I might be wrong, I don't know. I just wouldn't jump to conclusions. I'm not sure it proves much
/r/MensRights06/06/23 09:56 PM
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Not to sound too obvious... just rather than just waiting for the men in our lives to spontaneously open up to us.. we need to be more proactive in asking them how they are, and checking in on them. Some people are more introverted and generally less likely to open up on their own.. those are the ones we especially need to check in with. It's incredibly difficult to admit we have a problem and even more difficult to ask for help.. For anyone having ongoing problems, I'd recommend speaking to a c…
/r/MensRights06/06/23 09:31 PM
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Every self harm /suicide attempt/ cry for help - should be taken seriously, man or woman. Doesn't matter if its 1 man in a billion, or 1 woman in a billion billion. Everyone matters My father and grandmother both have attempted suicide. My father tried via pain killers. Was he attention seeking? No. How dare you.
/r/MensRights06/06/23 06:56 PM
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Yes.. we need to stop automatically thinking SA is a woman's problem. It affects everyone, equally. And it's equally as awful. I am not saying "believe all women", but we should absolutely foster a society that encourages people to step forward
/r/MensRights06/06/23 06:51 PM
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I have no issue with the fact this is a men's right group and therefore men's right issue should be front and centre. But it too often turns into man vs woman. And when it's something so sensitive as this, I personally just think it's uncalled for
/r/MensRights06/06/23 04:36 PM
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Have you read all the comments...? If they aren't celebrating, it's at least instead "idga mentality". This is an incredibly serious subject and that apathy in this sub is very grousom
/r/MensRights06/06/23 04:27 PM
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I have a long term partner.. we just won't ever get married. What's the question
/r/MensRights06/06/23 12:10 PM
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No. You can be in a relationship and not marry Yeah, the more I've learnt about it, the stupider it seems..I'm glad it's not a big thing in the uk
/r/MensRights06/06/23 10:36 AM
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Youre right. I wouldn't. I never intend to get married. I'm uk, alimony and prenup isn't massively common. So my views aren't concrete
/r/MensRights06/06/23 10:26 AM
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The downvotes youre getting... thats scary.
/r/MensRights06/06/23 07:51 AM
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I don't think it's ego. Men and women are biologically different ~ different brains means different way of going about things.
/r/MensRights06/06/23 07:44 AM
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I read somewhere that the rate of Attempts is the same, but the end result of death varies.. where men are most affected. Something to do with how they go about it.. men is more violent like a gun (no coming back from that), and women is drugs/medication (so more likely to be saved from)
/r/MensRights06/06/23 07:41 AM
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I've heard "respect your elders" or "respect their office", but never "respect women/man". I call bullshit on the elders/office thing. So agree, its about individuals, its not some automatic right.
/r/MensRights06/06/23 07:38 AM
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Right.. but that isn't to say she won't have? I don't know your circumstances, but I assume.. that she will be contributing financially to the household? I agree it's a little questionable that she threw a fit.. but I don't know how I'd react if my partner, whom I was promising, legally, to spend my life with, didn't want to leave everything to me (in the event of death).. regardless of how much they had. (The prenup I understand and is reasonable on your part)
/r/MensRights06/06/23 07:17 AM
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I know she has less, but has she said what she'd do with her assets?
/r/MensRights06/06/23 07:10 AM
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Why do you “love immigration”? It’s one thing to not want it restricted, but to love it in and of its self is frankly odd. Immigrants themselves leave family and friends and their social network behind. I didn't say "I love when people leave friends and family". People who willing want to migrate, should be able to is all. Most peoples heritage was immigration lol So unless that’s all been destroyed by something already it’s a wrench for them to shift even if they think the opportunities are gre…
/r/MensRights06/06/23 06:47 AM
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Most false rape accusations are done with malicious intent this is just what reality is. I didn't say they weren't?
/r/MensRights06/06/23 06:44 AM
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Yet he still should not have access for both savings. Any household spending its menaged by women and done mailny for women. If those savings was done for home then probably you would have final word in most parts, beacuse you put more money. Oh I see. Well, we're all young and dumb at least once. I had my own seperate savings. But I felt I could trust him enough.. obviously wrong 😂 & yes, most houaehold money is spent by women, but there weren't children involved, so it's all relative. but wome…
/r/MensRights06/06/23 06:31 AM
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No. That's a false negative. You would need to prove the false allegation percent. For example, even if you proved only 50% was real. That wouldn't default mean the other 50% is false allegation.
/r/MensRights05/06/23 10:33 PM
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That's a very dodgy thing to say... lots of times there is a huge backlog in dna that hasn't been processed. It's not that they haven't reached a conclusion, more than its hasn't gone to court/someone hasnt been caught. Yet You cannot surmise that SA doesn't happen 98% of the time. There a fine line here.. you don't want to put off real victims (men & women) coming foward.
/r/MensRights05/06/23 09:38 PM
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This has happened loads now. People keep blocking me, therefore I can't reply. Why do yall do that 🤣
/r/MensRights05/06/23 09:34 PM
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I dont know single happy married couple You could have just stopped there 🤣 When women say that their exes earn less than them they never been maried and she dumped him for guy with better income In your defence. Finances WAS one of the reasons the relationship broke down. But not because he didn't pay. But because I had put loads into our savings (for our future) and he kept spending it and getting into debt ha. Traditional its also manual work, but if men are doing X its expected for other per…
/r/MensRights05/06/23 09:23 PM
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Yes. That's fair. Having never seen into these groups, and not having been the victim of them. I have never stopped and thought about it. So I suppose you're right
/r/MensRights05/06/23 09:16 PM
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Thats why when you pay for men they are your exes. Lol no. Are you suggesting women don't stay with men who dont pay? Abaut physical labour its stupid take: When for me to carry X take 20% of my max, while for you its 60% its stupid for you to do so, purly from economic POV. Its the same when I ask my stronger friends to lift something. When it comes to relationship its nothing wrong to use other person positive traits to make your life easier, like: I can carry this, but you have more style, so…
/r/MensRights05/06/23 09:09 PM
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I think we can all agree, social media is the cause of a lot of men's & women's problems lol
/r/MensRights05/06/23 09:04 PM
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If you could find a page that shows a positive then sure I’d take a look but I wouldn’t change my mind because one news story isn’t enough to justify what’s been happening on said pages. Have you ever been on one of these pages? I haven't, so I am legitimately just trying to figure out via this chat if they're bad or not 😂 I know nothing bad other than what's been said here. So I am absolutely coming from a place of ignorance. Its why I like men's groups like this, makes me think about things I'…
/r/MensRights05/06/23 09:03 PM
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Of course it’s all we’ve heard because NOTHING positive has been shown about said groups. Right. So if I could find a positive news story, that would change your mind? I think not ! Said groups are nothing but harmful and actually discourage men from entering the dating scene altogether I know this might sound stupid - but perhaps men should be a tad pickier about the women they date 🤣 don't go after women who clearly spend 99% of their time on Facebook/posting crap.. that must cut the risk by a…
/r/MensRights05/06/23 08:55 PM
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I get that if it happened to you, and you were innocent, it would feel insanely awful and yall probably dont have a healthy relationship to being with. Fair enough. But women Do have a hive mind, and do look out for other women. I wouldn't have thought they were set up to be malicious. It's modded properly they could be a helpful tool still right? I can't see how this wouldn't be a good thing for men?
/r/MensRights05/06/23 08:51 PM
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If it’s apparently helped people then how come we’ve heard nothing positive about said groups? All we’ve heard is it’s exposing dating Profiles and personal details to be laughed at and judged. Of course that's all you've heard. You spend you're time talking with other angry men 🤣 Also funny how you say “men should too” if men did this sort of thing too there’d be a helluva lot more backlash than it is now. And ofc the media would make it a bigger thing since men are doing it You can't get angry…
/r/MensRights05/06/23 08:48 PM
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...you really think women care that much/have all this spare time on their hands 💀 It may have legitimately helped some people in bad relationships. Men should do it too
/r/MensRights05/06/23 08:43 PM
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....this was my first thought too. The people in prison may have been wrongly convinced, but likely just arrested in error and the criminal is still out, uncaught. Loads of people admit to crimes they didn't commit based on dodgy deals, often due to policing targets and bad justice systems. It doesn't mean a crime didn't take place. Women absolutely DO lie, but 25% sounds like a justice system problem rather than a women lying problem. Prisoners = 💰 Mra/anyone, feeding into the "all women lie th…
/r/MensRights05/06/23 08:37 PM
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How so? most How can you quanitiy this? Everyone is an individual. Every single relationship you have is wildly different to the previous. I've had boyfriends where I have paid 80%, I've had them where they've paid 80% (example) I don't understand where you're coming from. Regarding physical labour. He is twice my size, so offers to do things for me. But I always decline. "Tradition" doesn't really exist in most adult relationships. It's whatever those 2 people want it to be
/r/MensRights05/06/23 08:25 PM
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Wait. I'm confused. Legitimately not understanding. There are pages on Facebook where women post "are we dating the same guy", I know that. But what's negative about them? Wouldn't it actually be beneficial to men if there was a female equivalent? Am I missing something? I've never been on one of these pages, maybe they're really bad. But I'm not computing
/r/MensRights05/06/23 08:17 PM
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I'm confused. You Rightly challenge misandry.. but in a misogynistic way. Dont you understand that you're part of the problem? If you saw similar on a feminist page you guys would lose your shit.
/r/MensRights05/06/23 08:14 PM
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Ye.. I sit on the fence. 1. I love immigration ha. 2. You have to fix the economic climate to fix the birth rate, in my opinion
/r/MensRights05/06/23 03:48 PM
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OK I've been googling
/r/MensRights05/06/23 03:46 PM
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2 people now have whined about me in this thread and blocked me so I can't reply lol snowflakes
/r/MensRights05/06/23 02:24 PM
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Is that the UK too? I didn't see that when looking it up. But admittedly, I didn't look too hard so I'll take your word for it.
/r/MensRights05/06/23 02:23 PM
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Ooh ok. That is interesting. I didn't know those particulars. It may mean that in reality, its even less than 30% then... but as you say, all depends what was asked
/r/MensRights05/06/23 01:57 PM
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Yes. You think I'm virtue signalling. But I have no idea why ha LOL, of course I'm emotionally affected.. that's you projecting, and more proof of your victim mentality. It's weird that you're "emotional affected".. but whatever 🤣
/r/MensRights05/06/23 12:47 PM
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Well i am not a woman and i have never considered being with a man so i don't know how men are as partners to women, if they are really as bad as most women are to men than it would be more than understandable if they don't want to engage in a relationship with men Yes. Exactly. I wouldn't pretend to know what women are like either. So I have to assume both men and women are valid in complaints. I have experienced men, some great, some terrible. People are people. law and society against you and…
/r/MensRights05/06/23 06:36 AM
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I don't have great reference points for this. My mother and father divorced, he didn't want to see us, nor did he pay. My sisters and her partner broke up, he doesn't pay for his kids, but does see them. I've mostly experienced men not getting involved financially where there has been a break up) Also, I don't know which country you're from. But it's not a huge amount of money in the uk anyway. Like.. it really isn't a career path for a women if you see what I mean
/r/MensRights05/06/23 06:20 AM
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So that makes it OK?
/r/MensRights04/06/23 11:02 PM
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I really don't know what you're talking about Are you mad that I have a happy relationship? Are you mad that I have opinions? Or are you just mad that I'm a woman?
/r/MensRights04/06/23 11:02 PM
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You know... I am a person, who exists in this world. I am allowed to have opinions and views.
/r/MensRights04/06/23 10:28 PM
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In the UK, around 30% of people call themselves a feminist. If you assume some of them are men, and some of them aren't extreme... its still a huge majority of "normal" people. Feminism doesn't necessarily equal bad partner either. Emotional suffering from a bad relationship is the same risk women have when entering them. And financial risk, just don't marry them/and do use contraception. The birth rate is dropping, less women want marriage and kids than ever... if that's a concern. Relationship…
/r/MensRights04/06/23 10:05 PM
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I know I'll get downvoted.. but someone needs to say this Not all women are bad. There are many men in successful, happy, intimate relationships with normal, loving women. It does happen. It can work. It's not a fantasy or fake. Me and my boyfriend took it very slow in the beginning. He was very much a lone wolf (divorcee, so not keen on commitment) I stuck it out..I waited for him to be ready. And ever since.. neither of us have ever looked back and we're very happy.
/r/MensRights04/06/23 09:38 PM
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Hm ok. I can see where you coning from. Yes.. maybe the media/general society are more "ok/understand" of abused women whom are angry with men. However... I would argue that men (for example ones in this sub) get annoyed that women say this. That women fear men. So I don't believe what you're saying is universally true. But generally true, ye
/r/MensRights04/06/23 07:58 PM
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The law is actively rewarding women who rape. I understand why it looks that way. But more and more women are being charged with false allegation and with sexual assault. If you say 5% of women are being charged. That's still only the same as male perpetrators. So the numbers may look bad, but it's bad on both sides. Granted that doesn't make it right.
/r/MensRights04/06/23 06:08 PM
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Negative experience and/or sexual assault. Is that better. But same still applies. Let's say 50% of womne and 50% of men have been sexually harassed in some way by the other. It's not healthy to tell them that they should hate all who belong to that gender. I'm sorry you're American It's the same as men raping women, then being pro life. I get whay youre saying. But it's not a healthy mindset. But if you're insistent on having it, yall need to respect women who don't want to interact with men. R…
/r/MensRights04/06/23 05:57 PM
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But.. by your logic... anyone who has had any negative experience of the opposite sex, should therefore hate the opposite sex? That's basically all people
/r/MensRights04/06/23 05:47 PM
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Oh ok. Silly me. Hate women if you want. Idc
/r/MensRights04/06/23 05:45 PM
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Oh ok. So you're from a country where you have the draft. That's a shame. But no, my comparison works. I shouldn't only care about people in my neighbourhood. I should care about everyone's rights, everywhere. Men & women At no point have I said I am a victim lol.
/r/MensRights04/06/23 05:28 PM
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Totally agree. This isn't a war of men v women. Feeding into divide and conquer is silly.
/r/MensRights04/06/23 05:26 PM
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I'm not a feminist. But yes. Your point isn't invalid. But you cannot ever talk about Ukrainian men & their war if you're not from there then If you can prove to me, that men have it worse than any other demographic, then ok. I'll conceed. But until then, I'll assume everyone has it bad
/r/MensRights04/06/23 05:19 PM
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Aye. Take this out on OP not me. He suggested it
/r/MensRights04/06/23 04:56 PM
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To be fair. Almost everyone, across the board, hates women centric remakes. The audience has spoken.
/r/MensRights04/06/23 04:30 PM
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Well, in these women's defence.. do you stand up for them in your subs Solidarity in spirit is a good start, even without action... better than nothing. In irl, I defend whoever I think is right. Man, woman, gay, straight. It doesn't really matter..
/r/MensRights04/06/23 04:25 PM
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Well.. its my "reasonable summary" that you in fact are. Fuck off troll That's not very nice, is it. Ouch. I'm offended hahah
/r/MensRights04/06/23 04:21 PM
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Ahhh ok. So when I say I will offer some evidence. You don't want it. Classic mra.
/r/MensRights04/06/23 04:19 PM
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You say I am name calling.. but then you are attempting to insult me by calling me a child. You're a very hypocritical fella
/r/MensRights04/06/23 04:18 PM
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To be fair. I wasn't strictly talking about this sub ha. Unless you're suggesting men & women can't ve sexist? Never heard of sexism? But ok, the next time I see something, which I'm sure won't be too long, I'll share it here
/r/MensRights04/06/23 04:17 PM
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Lol ok. Ignorant
/r/MensRights04/06/23 04:14 PM
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You also find views such as "women should do the cooking and cleaning" across mra. Again, it's irrelevant ha. Both movements are stupid.
/r/MensRights04/06/23 04:11 PM
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Aren't you the same guy who admitted we shouldn't blame feminism for everything on a different thread? Now you think they wanna enslave men? Let's be real. Men and women both have to go to work and pay bills. And cleaning, that's down to individual couples to divide that work. It's has nothing to do with anyone else. If they're happy with it, it's no one else's concern. I agree that feminist is stupid. But I doubt she speaks on behalf of feminism
/r/MensRights04/06/23 04:07 PM
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Because I don't agree with everything you saying = I must therefore hate men. Wow And actually... at no point have I actually said I don't agree. My issue is this weird victim Olympics people (all people) play You are talking mostly of America. You have no gauge of anything outside your little bubble
/r/MensRights04/06/23 02:51 PM
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Men are funny. Think everything is an attack on them. It's the entire issue with mra. You cry wolf and blame women/feminists. When often men are to blame for their own problems
/r/MensRights04/06/23 02:46 PM
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I would insult feminists too. Don't flatter yourself
/r/MensRights04/06/23 11:25 AM
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I didn't say men have it perfect. Chill out. I know all of the above. You dumb fuck I literally knew someone was going to respond with a big list
/r/MensRights04/06/23 10:53 AM
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In what way are men second class citizens? I get men have it tough in some ways. But worse than women? Are you crazy. Women aren't even allowed to drive in some countries. And yall really think - women crossing the road/not smiling at you is equal to women getting stoned in the middle eazt
/r/MensRights04/06/23 08:57 AM
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We're you trying to convince me of something? What your argument? Mev v women. Racism. Illegal immigration. Its just a distraction. I actually feel sorry for people who don't know who their enemy it. So... awwwww blessssss
/r/MensRights03/06/23 08:36 PM
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How isn't it the same thing? Please explain It's legitimately like you are angry that I compliment him. I cannot win
/r/MensRights03/06/23 08:32 PM
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My boyfriend isn't here to answer. So I answered for him. It's the same thing anyway Why does me complimenting my boyfriend make you mad
/r/MensRights03/06/23 08:28 AM
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Honestly can't be bothered to reply to all that nonsense, i don't have time, maybe ill swing back later.. Except this My point, was that you can be a "woman's rights advocate" and a "men's rights advocate" at the same time, This view is very much outside of the "standard" mra view. Mras usually think, feminism = bad. The fact your saying that means your not the usual mra.
/r/MensRights02/06/23 04:42 PM
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Ooh good one You're missing my point. Spending time blaming someone else is wasted engery. Put it into actually resolving issues. Most people agree that circumcision is bad, conscription is bad, mothers getting majority custody is bad. The audience is there and ready to hear it.. But no, y'all hurt your cause as alll you do is whine about them pesky feminists
/r/MensRights02/06/23 04:28 PM
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Mostly because MRA doesn't actually advocate for anything. Instead just wasting you're lives crying into this echo chamber about how much you hate feminism Also, before you put words in my mouth. I am not pro-feminism. Or pro-mra
/r/MensRights02/06/23 04:23 PM
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That's not what MRAs are advocating for, I didn't say it was..I am merely suggesting people who support MRA may also simultaneously hold misogynistic views. The same goes for feminism. Also, the % of men and women opposed to abortions is roughly similar. Your argument is non existent. And I know. Youre misunderstanding me or you can grasp concepts. Idk which
/r/MensRights02/06/23 04:19 PM
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There are loads of men who are opposed yo women getting maternity pay. And women even having the vote. Doesn't mean women hate mra lol. So dumb
/r/MensRights02/06/23 04:08 PM
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And if you didn't agree with anything, would you still support them? If they have 1 bad idea out of 100, sure, that's no good reason to throw them out... but 1 good idea out of 100? I get what you're saying. But they can't even agree on everything and figjr amongst themselves, hence the different strands of Feminism. If they can't agree, statistically it stands to reason I must agree with some of them on some things. MRA 1 says x MRA 2 disagrees x If I agree with one, and not the other, am I ant…
/r/MensRights02/06/23 03:44 PM
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Feminism ≠ Women. You can criticise Feminism without attacking women. No, I know. I mean I would defend MRA and feminism. I wouldn't write an entire group off on the basis that I don't agree with everything. Given that Feminism is built upon a foundation of anti-male sentiment... My point is valid. There are many group/ things people do, such as animal welfare activism, climate change protesters and such, where the foundation is "anti people". That doesn't mean I and/or they dislike all people
/r/MensRights02/06/23 03:28 PM
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I think you can be a feminist and care about men. I can care about animal rights while acknowledge people do animals harm. While simultaneously fight for human rights. Men harm women, women harm men, one way or another. It doesn't mean a group isn't worth defending
/r/MensRights02/06/23 03:05 PM
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I tell my boyfriend how attractive he is at least once a week
/r/MensRights02/06/23 02:59 PM
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