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This is what I was thinking. All throughout history dating was always shaped by what men thought was a beautiful woman (hour glass figure, slim, long hair, nice butt and breasts, young face etc). Women just had to deal with it and did all sorts of things to become more “beautiful”. Now women are doing the same, emphasizing what physical traits (Tall, big D, muscular, etc) they find beautiful/attractive on men and they don’t like it. It doesn’t feel so good when you’re treated as not enough, espe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:33 PM
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Fuck no
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:48 AM
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This is still wanting women to lower their standards. They’re still lower standards that you want women to have whether they’re realistic or not. And who is the judge of them being realistic? Some random guy on reddit? The only men who even entertain this idea are the sexually unappealing and unattractive men. Many Men have this idea that most people should be attracted to most ppl of the opposite sex and that’s not how attraction, appeal or arousal works, I blame history for this. Most men neve…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:02 PM
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Size always matters, 6+
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:10 AM
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The women that have this expectation are very attractive and as usual these men want the very attractive women to lower her standards for him. If he offers 50/50 upfront, those very attractive women are out the door so they want to shame those women with the hopes that she’ll offer 50/50 instead. This also allows for the men to maintain their dating pool size.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:19 PM
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This is one of the lamest most pathetic things I’ve ever read.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:50 PM
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Poor looks (bad hair, ugly teeth, facial blemishes, too fat, lack of muscle definition, no sense of style) has no charm, charisma or passion, can’t flirt properly (this is a big one). Awkward, socially anxious, neurotic, low self esteem (these are mostly for the younger men) Those are some reasons they’re not sexy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:07 AM
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Get some sex appeal and you’ll be lusted after. The average man doesn’t exude any type of sexiness. That alone will put a man above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:57 AM
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You’re just not sexually attractive, simple. It could be anything from your looks, your mannerisms, or attitude. Also women are typically cordial and/or kind to average men. Men see that as being invisible because they strongly desire women while women view it as indifference because the desire is not as strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:26 AM
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Look your best (clear skin, style your hair to fit your face, no receding hairlines or balding if so cut it, white straight teeth, work on your smile), have a semi active lifestyle, have interesting stories to tell, cool hobbies, dress your best (be stylish), be very charming and charismatic, know how and when to escalate
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 11:42 PM
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Probably because you portrayed yourself as confident. No woman wants a (for lack of better term) bitch. It’s arguably the worst thing a man can be in the dating world. A lot of Women will take a confident asshole over a polite pushover that displays anything a little less than ultra confident. The goal is to find a man in the middle tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:06 AM
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I think this op needs a little more substance. What exactly are we debating? We can’t debate your anecdotal claims. What propaganda are you referring to? Is there also propaganda in the countries you’ve been to but since you benefit from it, you don’t view it as propaganda?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:42 PM
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Sounds like an extremely miserable world that most of us probably wouldn’t want to live in
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:14 PM
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Men’s dating strategy has always been to somehow pressure/shame/coerce/guilt women into being with men. The wall is 1 example of that. Single woman throughout history have always been painted as the worst thing a woman could be, right next to being a hoe. What modern dating shows is that at women’s own discretion and the pressure dwindling, women would rather be single than deal with the average man and that number grows every day. Look throughout history, the patriarchy and traditional dating w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:10 AM
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Right so trying to extrapolate the normal activities in every day dating onto the casual sex scene is being disingenuous. We’re specifically talking about those who participate in the casual sex world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:52 AM
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Perhaps your world. Casual sex is a small percentage of dating anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:35 AM
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It’s only unusual to ppl that don’t actively participate in casual sex which is arguably 90% of the men whining in this sub. It’s completely normal that some ppl are arousing but not compatible in everyday life. This also exists vice versa. That’s what men here call a beta. They don’t have to rationalize anything because they’re getting exactly what they want. Casual sex with a sexually attractive man, big dick, and no attachments , no having to be his therapist, clean up after him, cook for him…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:26 AM
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A woman having casual sex with a man solely means he’s sexually attractive. It doesn’t automatically mean he’s compatible for a relationship nor that she wants a relationship with the man. A relationship needs sexual attraction and compatibility. Casual sex only meets half that criteria. Relationships actually have higher standards than casual sex because ideally you have to be attractive and compatible which most ppl can’t meet both. Most women who actively participate in casual sex have experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:28 PM
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No. Women desire men just not how men desire women. There’s a risk to reward assessment when women deal with men sexually. Men keep trying to impose their sexuality onto women and that’s the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:39 PM
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I never argued otherwise. My point is if men want women to put in effort then he’s not needed and she’ll just masturbate. They can make themselves cum without having to deal with the downsides of having sex with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:38 PM
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They’re pathetically selfish, entitled, bitter, on the spectrum and insecure all wrapped in a pretty bow. All of this nonsense goes out the window when you mention an act to them that they’re not interested in doing even though she did it with previous partners. You can say that you pegged your ex’s and he needs to bend over and let her go to town. Or that she watched all her exs fuck other men and he needs to get on Grindr and get busy. Then the excuses will come.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:49 PM
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If telling themselves that is what helps them sleep at night then hey 🤷‍♀️. I actually don’t care how to describe their social skills Because either way the outcome is the same. They’re on no one’s dating radar whether their social skills are low, poor, or “nonexistent”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:42 PM
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I guess you can say they have very low social skills and to men that have zero social skills that can be seen as socially fit. I’ve personally never seen a man with social skills be a jester because they know how to read the room and just move onto the next woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 02:01 PM
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My response is clear. Men are bigger losers/failures for being unchosen because being single to them is a death sentence. It’s not necessarily because they’re single. Society doesn’t care they’re single but they care when they make their singleness everyone’s problem because ppl get hurt. Women on the other hand accept being single and move tf on. As you can see I commented on the auto mod because I wasn’t necessarily debating against your op. Just mentioning why men are currently considered fai…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 01:24 PM
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The rock thing was an exaggeration. Point is they don’t fit in socially with most people who date. Their problem is they want to make their unattractiveness someone’s fault. It’s no one’s fault. Accept you’re unattractive and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 01:16 PM
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Because ppl that actually date know there’s nuance to it. No one cares what an incel has to say about dating, not even other men. He barely can get a date clearly but yet is the expert.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 01:08 PM
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You know you’re right. Incels are not attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 01:04 PM
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If you’re attractive and can arouse a woman yes there will always be at least 1 woman out there for you no matter if you’re good or bad. Attractive men always have options, it’s just a matter of if they’re good or bad options. Elliot Rodgers was very attractive and yet he was an incel weirdo. Incel men are just are the worst to be around and ppl would rather they go away. Not even incel women want to be around them. They’re the lowest of the low in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:43 PM
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Most of these guys are unattractive so they have no other option than to play jester in the hopes of getting a crumb of p*ssy. Then they blame women like it’s their fault they look like a troll doll and have the social skills of a rock.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:27 PM
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Unattractive men should be unselected. Attractive men should be selected. Whether they’re good or bad is irrelevant to attraction and arousal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:14 PM
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Absolutely. Women would honestly encourage men in general to instead please themselves and leave women completely out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:08 PM
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Exactly, so why would women put effort into something they can do and enjoy alone? If men don’t want to put effort into making a woman cum then she really doesn’t care to have sex with him. He’s effectively sexually useless to her. Then men would complain (like they do now) that women don’t want to have sex with men. Well yes because men don’t want to put effort into pleasing her so it’s pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 01:23 PM
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Women putting effort in to making herself orgasm involves literally herself and the man is honestly not needed. He can watch her I guess. How many men would be okay with that arrangement? Probably not many since they’re not getting anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 12:21 PM
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Men took away women’s autonomy FIRST and women just wanted that back. Men on the other hand berate, shame, and sometimes physically attack women solely for not dating them. That’s my point and it’s not the same. Your jealous rant about men that are desirable just screams bitterness and it has nothing to do with my comment. My point is Men can be single in silence and no one would call them failures, but they wont. They create 1000s of post on Reddit, Twitter and Tik Tok, shaming women for being …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:21 AM
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I think men are considered losers for being unchosen because they make being unchosen everyone’s problem and they make it seem like being single is the worse thing that could ever happen. It’s not necessarily because they’re unchosen. They have a lot of anger, bitterness and resentment towards women and usually lash out about it. That’s why currently in dating unchosen men are seen as losers/failures. I understand incel men want that narrative to be flipped which is why this post exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:46 AM
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Who’s labeling these men as decent and “the best men”? It’s clearly not the woman. Unconfident cowardly men are not the best or decent enough for the relationship they desire, that’s what’s not clicking to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:33 PM
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Nothing as long as they don’t talk to me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 01:21 PM
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Another reason why women should avoid insecure men 🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:39 AM
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Since when have men been so insecure about their own attraction? I must only be around men that know they’re attractive because this is so odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:33 AM
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I just told you why , you’re just being pedantic. Also yes , attractive, masculine, nice, caring, exciting are a few off the top of my head. Most socially adept people learn this in school.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 05:24 PM
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Because if they’re being asked what they want in a man, they’re going to say what they want in a man. Nice being a baseline doesn’t mean you have to negate it when having a conversation about what you like in a partner. Being attractive and good looking is also a baseline and many women mention that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 05:08 PM
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You didn’t refute anything. None of the unwanted undesirable men here have yet to substantially prove that being a criminal helps you in dating. You’re just another bitter unloved troll who lives for resenting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 04:22 PM
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Sounds like they need to vent to their friends because no one on the internet cares when you have to insult others to get your point across.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 04:16 PM
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It is a baseline, ppl that you meet on a regular basis are typically nice. When you go the doctor and check in with the receptionist When you work with your co workers When you meet your long lost cousin
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:18 PM
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Rarely is a man just airing out their grievances about dating. Especially on reddit, complaining easily turns to insults, belittling, and entitlement once you let these complainers talk long enough. Also, if it’s constantly, ppl in general hate complainers. Either try and fix your situation or accept it and move on. Ppl have very little tolerance for ppl complaining all the time and especially men complaining all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 02:55 PM
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I understand that the only men who truly believe that being nice is a good strategy for dating are the socially inept men and those men are generally unattractive. Most of the socially adept learned in school that being nice is a baseline for all relationships (friends, co workers, associates, classmates, family etc). Being nice is not sufficient for any relationship in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 02:37 PM
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I mean I’m not obligated to relay any info to him and I want to have a good time. I can have a good time with men I don’t like.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 03:39 PM
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Exactly because a lot of men feel very entitled after paying for 3+ dinner dates and I’m not obligated to tell you that I already knew upfront I didn’t like you but I’m only here to kill time and for free food.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 02:40 PM
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Ppl don’t get into relationships where there’s power dynamic and Considering men are free to leave relationships at their own discretion, I highly doubt that they’re in relationships with women calling shots. Just sounds like something you made up to justify your bitterness and resentment that you have towards women and dating. Your turn boo
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:52 PM
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How you know the woman calls the shots? You’re basing that off of what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:14 PM
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That’s not really power if men are in control of it. I’d argue men have the power because the dating dynamics change based on how they approach dating
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:59 PM
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Women have no power. Men can stop pursuing women right this second at their own discretion and we wouldn’t be able to do anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:50 PM
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I read it and it’s smoke in mirrors. Your post assumes men that have attractive traits such as being charming, charismatic and funny are terrible for women in the long run because they never had to work on themselves. You’re also assuming men that are boring who lack attractive traits are better for women in the long run. You use the word “could’ve”, he could’ve turned out great. He also could’ve turned out terrible. He barely acts like he likes the woman because he takes you a cheap date and do…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:55 AM
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This goal men have of trying to claim charming, charismatic and overall attractive men as being awful but portray boring (unattractive) men as the greatest thing since sliced bread just reeks of envy and jealousy. This is just another rehashed post of “choose the unattractive guy over the attractive guy”.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:33 AM
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I’ve done this by saying “you’re probably just unattractive” and they didn’t want to believe it and began berating me. Not worth the trouble, find out you’re unattractive on your own
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:15 PM
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Yes it’s not their fault a man is undesirable. Just like it’s not men’s fault a woman is undesirable. That’s just what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:06 PM
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Well this circles back to the OP about why women aren’t happy that men are trying to become attractive. Because they take their anger and resentment out on women and yes that’s pointless because it’s not women’s fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:47 PM
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I mean it’s no one else’s fault you were/are undesirable so being resentful and angry at others is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:31 PM
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No just improve yourself without being angry and resentful. Pretty simple. At the end of the day no one really cares that you’re improving yourself to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:31 PM
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Women wouldn’t even care if it didn’t also come with bitterness, resentment, disrespect, emotional outbursts, anger and in extreme cases assault. Seems like men can’t work on their attractiveness to women discreetly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:09 PM
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Why is the opposite of boring always asshole/player? There’s like an entire middle ground. You can feel the resentment and jealousy that a lot of these men have because they’re boring and undesirable but need something and someone to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:54 PM
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No, I find most men to be okay/neutral/average looking. When a man is good looking, cute or handsome it definitely stands out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:57 AM
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The problem is they’re not desirable. It’s basically a slap in the face to be undesirable to the people you desire most. Their only option is to be needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:51 PM
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Nope if that were true most women would be your definition of a “pick me” . That’s what most women desire anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:53 PM
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And they’re treated just like any other woman. They’re not given the world
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:27 PM
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There actually is. But the point is the pick me’s that do get picked do not get the world handed to them. If they did most women would be a “pick me”.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:22 PM
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I’ve yet to see a man treat a “pick me” right and I’m highly certain most women would agree. OP mentions that men “would” give the world to a pick me but if that’s the case why aren’t they doing it right now? There’s a plethora of pick me women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:58 PM
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I would imagine it means the man isn’t sexually attractive or doesn’t exude sex appeal but that makes sense in a friendship anyway. Being sexually attractive typically means you present yourself in a sexual manner to attract someone. I believe the guy most likely isn’t doing that with his friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:19 PM
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It sounds like the solution is that men should pay for it. They should advocate for getting it legalized. Men get what they want and women don’t have to deal with a man who’s just using her for her body. But instead The man lies and deceives and then women are blamed for the man’s deception. Women have to be subjected to dealing with men who are only interested in fulfilling their own desire while simultaneously ignoring the women’s desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:42 PM
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Women say this all the time I think this is fine but both parties should be on the same page when entering relationships. This is why relationships become unstable and eventually enter a dead bedroom. You should make that known to your potential partner upfront so they can decide if that’s the relationship they want to enter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:27 PM
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Maybe RP theories are the exceptions to the rule. Again y’all pick and choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:28 AM
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RP picks and chooses when to apply their theories and they ignore the real life examples that disprove their narrative. Jeff Bezos a high value man who settled down with a single mother in her 50s. Jason Momoa a high value man, married a woman who is a single mother and older than him. Hugh Jackman a high value man, married an older woman. Shannon Sharpe got duped by a teenager thinking she actually wanted him and she only wanted money and a lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:20 AM
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Men will say this while simultaneously wanting their woman to genuinely desire them. You either get lower standards or genuine desire, you can’t have both.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 09:21 PM
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The point is men have control over their own actions. You don’t have to chase women or live for their validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 05:30 PM
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Men willingly base their entire lives around the approval of women and hate that women use that to their advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 12:33 PM
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Struggling to date and get women to genuinely like them has a huge effect on the male psyche. They resent women and take out that frustration on basically every woman
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 02:54 PM
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Think you need to tell OP that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 04:02 PM
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They care otherwise they wouldn’t mention it constantly 🤷🏾‍♀️ keep the same energy all around
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 03:25 PM
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Yes. Men happily rejoice at the fact that men built the world even if they themselves contributed nothing to building the world. They’ll take credit. So keep the same energy for the men that’s also destroying the world. You gotta take the good with the bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 02:37 PM
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Women want an attractive man. Attractive ppl attract ppl. Unattractive ppl attract no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:44 PM
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I remember a couple months ago on Twitter. Men were using Grok to remove women clothes in pictures they posted. On twitter there’s already tons of porn and naked women so it’s mind boggling and sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:17 PM
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Because socially awkward men are generally unattractive. Attraction comes first.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:50 PM
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The problem is they’re not only introverted but socially anxious and awkward. Those traits work against you in the context of dating because dating is a social experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:37 PM
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Women are dating unattractive men. You guys keep trying to put all women into 1 basket based on whatever argument you’re trying to make. Tomorrow we’ll see a post on how women are only getting in relationships with men they’re not attracted to and how they’re all beta males.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:37 PM
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I mean if you were only good to get a specific outcome then you were never “good” to begin with. You’re no different than those other guys you just don’t have the privilege and courage to act upon your bad behavior and you’re envious. If a woman was to get with a guy who was only good to get an outcome, it wouldn’t end well anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:17 PM
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That’s not always true otherwise men wouldn’t complain about being the beta husband who she’s not attracted to. More than enough women don’t think with their lower parts but y’all focus on the few that do because that’s what you desire from women. Men want to be that object of desire but unfortunately many can’t. Some women get with men for their attraction and some get with men for their values. The goal is to find someone that has both but if we actually did that, most ppl wouldn’t even be her…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:09 PM
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Sounds like they’re just dating men that are attractive and that can include toxic men. Attraction boils down to what you desire and arousal. (Things you have no control over) Attraction doesn’t necessarily match your values (things you do have control over). If a man is relying on being “good” he’s going to have a hard time because it’s a neutral position, it doesn’t do anything in the context of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 10:56 AM
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Staying single is an option
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:03 PM
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I didn’t realize struggling with women would cause men to spiral so much, these posts just keep more insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 11:12 AM
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Some women definitely keep their options open and have rosters, that’s what dating is for. Until someone mentions that they want to be exclusive then they’re most likely dating around. Women rank men based on how useful men are to her personally and how good they make her feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:42 AM
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My mind goes to sex after interacting with him multiple times on multiple different occasions. I Gotta make sure I’m comfortable around him before I even consider sex. When I see an attractive man , my initial thought is wow this man looks amazing, and I just admire and appreciate sometimes compliment him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 04:57 PM
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Being too awkward and shy. Lack of charm, wit spontaneity and charisma.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 04:28 PM
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If you look good enough anything’s possible
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 04:24 PM
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Probably biological Women don’t have a sexual urge for most men like men do for women. I thought we knew this already. Women don’t even find a lot of men sexually attractive. This post is basically saying how you’ll use a woman at her lowest in the hopes that you can obtain sexual gratification from her. That shows how much men are motivated by sex, that’ll they connive their way in the hopes to have sex. Women don’t have the motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 01:35 PM
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For me it’s the man’s looks and I solely mean his face. (Proportional facial features, no significant blemishes, not balding or receding hairline, no long beard, nice teeth). If you don’t look good enough for me in the face, then it’s an automatic no. If he pushes then I’ll entertain him for a while and get to know his personality. Once that threshold is passed, he has to be charming, and/or charismatic and extroverted. I don’t like awkward shy introverted men. These lean into the personality tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 04:51 PM
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I’ve yet to see this men not approaching phenomenon. I highly doubt the men that are confident, charming and extroverted are participating in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 08:52 PM
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Men can begin to criticize women for their performance but we know they won’t because that’ll probably lower their chances of having sex which they can’t afford to do. Also, I think many women don’t care about pleasing men sexually because sex isn’t as important to women as it is to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 07:24 PM
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I’m not approaching a man that I don’t find attractive, that’s just not happening. Men can follow the same rules they choose not to and that’s their prerogative
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 01:58 PM
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I’m happy to approach, just have to find a man worthy of being approached. Women aren’t going to approach a regular joe if that’s what men are expecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:33 AM
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I agree with you. Plus women risk a lot more once she’s pregnant. If a man doesn’t love you more then he could potentially leave you while pregnant possibly jobless. Men aren’t as vulnerable in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 04:32 PM
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This argument can be made for women too. The man should be more into the woman and she won’t have to lift a finger or question her position in his life, he’ll make it well known. Naturally the women will just mirror the same energy. Only 1 person benefits from this unbalanced dynamic either way so it’s not healthy whatsoever. Ideally both parties should be equally into each other and put in equal effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:34 PM
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What are some real life examples that prove your point because this fantasy island you made up isn’t it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:25 PM
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Women standards include the “full girlfriend treatment” upfront so he wouldn’t even be her BF in the 1st place without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:54 PM
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No I wouldn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:16 PM
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The woman questions if the man even likes her with low effort and investment. Women should never go on a date with a low effort man because a low effort man shows upfront that he doesn’t take the woman seriously and just wants to waste her time. If the man wants to be low effort and investment that’s fine but stay to yourself. He should stop asking women out and stop wasting ppl’s time. No one wants to be around some low effort low investment and low value sad man. Not even men worth a damn want…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 01:40 PM
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If that was true then your entire post would be pointless because low effort/investment would be standard
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 04:46 PM
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Just like women rarely get positive returns with low investment/effort men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 04:13 PM
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This works both ways. A man that truly desires you will spend money, and put a lot of effort into trying to impress the woman. We see it all the time. Low effort and low investment just means the man doesn’t genuinely like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 04:04 PM
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Probably not
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 06:42 PM
1

I tolerate all approaches as long as they’re respectful but a guy I would say yes to is a guy with a cute face, not bald or receding hairline, not fat, No beards, some muscles, avg height at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:33 PM
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I personally don’t care where especially if he’s my type. If he’s not my type, I’ll just politely say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:04 PM
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Either earn more money or Get muscular and become extremely charismatic and charming. You basically light up the room when you walk in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:53 PM
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This whole post reeks of bitterness from someone who probably can’t get a date. You’re just looking for someone to take your frustrations out on
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:13 PM
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Fault means someone is responsible for a wrongdoing. It’s no one’s fault if a man can’t get a date. Someone being denied a date is not a wrongdoing. If a woman gets “used” this implies she was led to believe 1 thing and the outcome didn’t happen how she was led to believe it would happen. This can be considered a wrongdoing depending on circumstances and context.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:48 PM
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I believe the biggest problem with settling is sex. Men advocate for women to settle so they can get through the door but they never think about what happens once they do get through the door. That woman is not having sex with you or at the very best it’ll be duty sex like once a year. Men think women have high standards for nothing but status, ego and to show off to her friends but a good chunk of those standards is for our sexual attraction to the man and that’s just something you really can’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:08 PM
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The looksmatch thing is really nonsensical. There’s no objective way to determine one’s “looksmatch” so that makes the whole thing BS. It’s just a way for men to play victim because they feel entitled to women they’re attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 03:45 AM
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I always have a good time when I go on a date. When I’m on a date and having a good time I’m comfortable, conversation is flowing, he seems interested in my life by asking questions. I would say what determines if it turns into a 2nd date is if there’s romantic chemistry. I’m not sure if there’s a lot of signs to determine if that chemistry is there or not. I believe you’ll feel when it’s right.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:46 PM
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I don’t think it’ll work for unattractive men. Being a jerk will definitely make things worse. Also sounds like your friend was way too over invested in someone he barely even knew or spent time with. That’s a turn off. I think men put too much stake in being “nice” when that’s just a baseline of how you should treat other ppl.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:38 AM
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To answer the title, no I don’t it’s proportionate. There’s more women who desire a big 🍆 compared to the amount of men actually who have that (6+ inches). I do believe women like the idea of a big 🍆 and not the reality plus it’s a way to make men feel insecure about themselves which some women get off on
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:59 AM
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Men once again advocating for women to lower their standards and be with beta men they don’t like
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:40 PM
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It’s just a long drawn out smoke in mirrors way for men that are jealous of “chad” to blame their lack of desirability on women. Why else do you think they scream from the rooftops for women to lower their standards and be with men that they don’t find attractive? That’s the only way a lot of them would get a banging looking woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:32 PM
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I personally like a more stylish man so yes I would still care despite everything else
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 08:26 PM
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Because it’s exciting. There are men that enjoy that stuff too. Men that have a lot of motion absolutely post about it on social media. These are the men that are attractive to a lot of women because they’re exciting, social and fun. If a woman has to neg her man to get out the house that just means they’re not compatible. She likes to go out and he doesn’t. I personally love an extroverted man who loves to go out. Life is too short and I don’t really need a partner if we’ll just stay home all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:34 PM
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There’s no objective way to determine one’s “looks-match” so that already makes their argument flawed. If Billy fails to attract any women then technically all women are out of his league just like how if Sandra can’t attract Chad, then Chad is out of her league. But Billy’s failure to attract any woman is of course women’s fault. They just think it’s unfair that Sandra can probably get a decent man while Billy can’t get anyone. That’s no one’s fault, it’s just the fact that men desire women mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:56 PM
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If you’re also attractive then yes. Your dating success is based on how attractive you are, not how good you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 04:05 AM
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Now that I think about it, you’re right. Caring is just something positive about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 01:45 PM
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Yes women want the confident, extroverted, charming guy. This isn’t news. Also that man can be very caring. No one wants an insecure soft spoken (in my experience soft spoken guys are always very nervous) low confidence, low self esteem caring guy. His unattractive traits outweigh the attractive one (caring).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:57 PM
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Those guys are probably just not attractive to women or at least to the women they want. Even if those women overrate themselves that’s really their business because they can’t control who they think is attractive to them. Women want to be with someone attractive just like men do
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:43 PM
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Well you can’t control attraction and men want their woman to genuinely be attracted to them so I don’t see the problem here
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:39 PM
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They want a man who’s visually appealing, attractive personality and not a slop. Maybe those guys aren’t as attractive to women as you think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:06 PM
0

Nope, I would want to date around.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 10:14 PM
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I think “approaching” just moved to instagram and Tik Tok DMs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 11:00 PM
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The only thing I don’t understand is men want to be genuinely desired but at the same time want women to lower their standards. If I lower my standards, I’m not naturally desiring you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 01:17 AM
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I think women don’t put effort into men they don’t like and it’s a guy who kind of won’t stop bugging her (I’ve been through this). If she likes you, she’s doing everything to impress the man. I’ve seen it and I’ve personally done it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 10:31 PM
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Not my type, too bulky and usually those men have the ugliest face which is a hell no for me. I like fit but not looking like the hulk.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 10:23 PM
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I’ve never been abused but I tolerated annoyances from men that weren’t handsome. Meeting a handsome man is rare in itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 06:14 PM
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I would assume because they think a beautiful woman should be with a good looking man. There are women (such as myself) that believe looks matter the most and Personality matters once the looks threshold is passed. There are also women who believe that looks doesn’t matter and personality is the most important (my friends are like this) so it also depends on the type of woman judging.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 06:57 PM
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It’s fun. Meeting new ppl/learning about new ppl is fun. Trying out restaurants and activities with someone you have romantic intentions for is fun. Then while you’re on the date, there’s flirting, banter and escalation, sometimes you get butterflies. The whole experience can be exhilarating.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:54 AM
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They don’t genuinely want a solution or compromise just to complain and play victim. Eventually Darwinism will catch up with those ppl.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 08:34 PM
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NYC
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 03:05 PM
4

A lot of women in my city spin plates and date multiple ppl very casually but that’s pretty normal here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 02:55 PM
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B, I like being social with friends so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 05:12 PM
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Women also have eyes and they’re clearly not for you so yeah. Looks matter bcus women want to be with someone at least average looking since sex is involved. Looks contributes to a man’s overall attractiveness. That along with height, charm, masculinity etc. Men have more avenues to be considered attractive to women so if you have absolutely zero options then hey I’m sorry to hear that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:40 AM
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Maybe you’re not as good looking as you believe you are and women aren’t going to put up with an ugly man just bcus. Men put up with ugly women bcus they want sexual access as I said before. You guys pick and choose when women have these options. Men go on and on about how they could fuck women they’re not attracted to and they fuck zone women and women only have sexual options etc. So those “options” aren’t true options bcus according to men, women options are just sexual options.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 11:57 PM
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Well your looks and height are apart of you so. Men are not less shallow, men get with women solely for sexual access and they put all their cards or most of their cards into a woman’s beauty compared to women who spread their cards out more evenly with looks, height, charm, personality etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:41 PM
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Love is very conditional and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. Men aren’t out here unconditionally loving women they deem ugly so yeah. Also you do have control over your education and social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:18 PM
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So my point still stands
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:35 AM
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A lot of men do a lot of conniving things just to get sex, and women are the victims. With that in mind it turns women completely off. Wanting sex itself isn’t the problem, it’s what they do to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:45 AM
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Whether they do it before or after the relationship the outcome is the same , ending up alone. That’s my point. Not every man is desperate and pathetic enough to have a woman to the point where they’re dealing with nonsense such as this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 10:09 AM
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Projecting your insecurities onto someone else and wallowing is what ruins the relationship and that’s my point. They end up alone bcus no one wants to deal with that. It sounds like the men are projecting their insecurities and wallowing before even making it to a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 05:17 AM
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And then they get dumped when their partner finds out they’re insecure and not working on themselves just like the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 04:41 AM
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Their consequence is ending up alone
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 12:15 AM
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I think men are allowed to have insecurities but ppl expect them to be working on them at the very least. For example many insecure short men wallow in their insecurities and make being short their entire personality. No one wants to be around that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 11:32 PM
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I think that’s totally fair. I was just saying why some women do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:58 AM
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Women share details with their friends because they enjoy gossip. Yes size matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:39 AM
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Never heard of it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 02:22 PM
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It’s just overlooked and she focuses on what she likes about the man. Everyone does this because no one is perfect. Everyone (or at least the overwhelming majority of ppl) is going to have something in their partner that they won’t like and tolerate it because their good qualities/traits outweigh the bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 12:33 AM
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Yes. Also the height thing depends. If you’re good looking with a fit body and charming, social, masculine then the height will just be over looked.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:34 AM
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Well that’s what happens when you take away women’s autonomy in dating and relationships and then give it back to them. Now the playing field is completely leveled and there are no handicaps for anyone. We’re basically in a no holds barred match but for dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:09 PM
3

Based on an outdated study
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:06 PM
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I absolutely agree. Their complaints really are just noise. In real life they’re not on anyone’s radar and just taking up space on the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:12 PM
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They want to impose their sexuality on women. Men will literally have sex with anything and they want women to be the same. Desperate Men will take any relationship as long as they have the possibility of getting sex and women don’t work that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:10 PM
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The obsession with Chad is astonishing honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:02 PM
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Men complain right now about women being whores and having a high body count but honestly it’s really the unattractive men no one cares about it or likes that’s complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:28 PM
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The point is women are moving on their own accord. What unattractive men think and believe is completely irrelevant because they’ll shame you either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:26 PM
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No it seems like unattractive men are upset that they have no handicap to help them and have to rely solely on themselves to get someone to like them. There’s no more pressure from society and women can make their own money. Also, that’s not how sexual attraction works and as usual men are trying to impose their sexuality onto women. Avg and below avg women standards are right where they need to be because they’re based on what turns her on and what she’s comfortable with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:15 PM
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You can’t win either way. If women were to have a bunch of sex with every man, they’d be complaining about women’s body count and women being whores. At the end of the day ppl will have sexual relations with ppl they want. If no one wants you, sad to say you’re probably unwanted and that’s no one’s fault. It’s just what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:33 AM
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If you struggle socially, that alone makes you below average. Most of the men that struggle to date (in this sub and in real life) usually are socially inept and/or isolated. Dating is a social activity you have to socialize. The average person is not a socially awkward/inept/isolated person that can’t read the room or understand social cues. We all learned this in grade school.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 05:56 PM
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I think men should ask “what are women sexually attracted to” instead of “what are women attracted to” because that will give them the answer they are looking for. As men constantly stress, sex is important to them, ok then you have to be direct. If you ask women what they are attracted to they will give you an overall general picture and sexual attraction is a small factor of that. Men are looking for what is sexual attractive to women and that’s different. Personally I think most men aren’t se…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 03:53 PM
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All I will say is you can definitely start lying , no one is stopping you. I personally don’t think it will help because if it did, men wouldn’t be complaining about struggling so much because men are already lying in the dating market. Things like height and income being the biggest lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:53 PM
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I guess they can’t believe it because the women don’t want to have sex with them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 03:52 PM
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I mean down the road can be tomorrow, the point is you’ll eventually have to deal with it later. If that’s not incentive enough for you, then don’t do it. Look at the dating market now, men already lie and it hasn’t helped anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 03:33 PM
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I believe the incentive is not have to deal with repercussions later because of the lie. I think lying will just cause problems down the road. I rather avoid them upfront by being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 01:18 PM
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I think men and women just value different things in a partner and that’s fine. If you want hookups or fwb then you should go after that. Just like if women value a relationship she has to find a man that also values that too. This trying to convince others to conform to values isn’t going to help anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 12:29 PM
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Women absolutely do admit they care about attractiveness, looks, height, money. You constantly see videos upon videos and media posts of women admitting these things. Unfortunately this triggers men because they know they don’t fit the mold and they project their resentment and anger onto women. No one wants to really deal with that so there would be some women that hide it to not have to deal with the nonsense. If you haven’t seen it yet I’ll be the 1st to admit I like tall, cute, muscular, not…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 01:10 PM
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I always thought the idea behind “date men problem solved” is that the man never liked women to begin with and is more so an undercover gay man so he pretends to like women. A lot of women see on social media men being in a relationships with women but cheating on her with a man so that reinforces that idea. I don’t agree with the shaming but just explaining the mindset behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 12:59 PM
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Well I’ve yet to see any male advocacy. Im not sure what MRA’s are but incels are definitely not getting any compassion from women. I know that for sure. They have too much of a bad rap sheet especially nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:58 AM
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Probably not at the moment and I believe that’s due to a lack of understanding of men’s issues and sometimes being taken for granted. If men were to begin to advocate for themselves this would help women have a better understanding of their issues. With a better understanding and less ignorance, they would be more willing to be supportive. As long as men are genuine, then the support from women would grow.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:10 AM
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I think ppl have compassion for men in their personal lives. I think if men are looking for compassion in general, they would have to start with providing compassion to their own first. Women will follow suit. We should see men in power, men at the top of the food chain and men that are players providing compassion to their fellow man, then I think we can get somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 11:53 PM
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A lot of the guys that use the term “bad boy” are scared to even flirt with women so their definition of “bad boy” is extremely skewed. A bad boy to them is basically a man that exhibits the carelessness, confidence and self esteem they wish they had. He could simply be a guy in a club that grabs a woman and dances with her on the dance floor. Notice how men that aren’t bitter, actually get women and happily date don’t use the term “bad boy”.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 12:35 AM
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I never understood the “threat”. “I want to be married badly but the man I want doesn’t want me so let me get with a man I don’t want but he wants me and make his life miserable”. Is that really the outcome you guys want? Honestly considering how desperate some of these guys are , they probably think that’s better than their single life but I digress.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 08:38 PM
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Probably, I guess it’s good for everyone that women are becoming more single
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:41 PM
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I would say women crave a man that has everything she finds attractive because most men are like a puzzle missing many pieces.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:13 PM
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No one said it would be reasonable. You guys seem to have the highest expectations ever but constantly complaining about everything being rigged against you in dating. You can just not do it 🤷🏾‍♀️ Idrc since I’m not the one crying for a crumb of pussy. Maybe just give up so there’s space for the ppl that don’t have to get online asking how to get casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:32 AM
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Well you usually flirt and escalate the flirting , then when the vibe is right ppl usually start touching on each other kissing and then it goes from there. Strangers make out in the club all the time. There’s not really a manual to this , you just have to go with the flow. Oh yeah and don’t forget the alcohol. Edit: I would not recommend this for someone who is socially awkward, shy, scared of rejection, low self esteem, low confidence, autistic or just can’t read the room. Your social awarenes…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:54 PM
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Your car, the back room , the park, the bathroom. That’s usually where these drunken sex escapades happen. Sometimes ppl leave a club and go to another club bcus they know they can fck there but I guess if you live in a small city that may not be an option for you. Just work with what you have
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:00 PM
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1) buy a section it’s usually quieter 2) and 3) you don’t need to go home to do this, if you’re actually social, charming and flirty none of this really matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 09:12 AM
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Ppl literally do it all the time and you can go to the club and see ppl chatting in the club. If you can’t do that then oh well I guess. You also have the option to buy a section where it’s typically quieter and invite women over so you can chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 12:25 AM
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I think it’s best to ask a friend who knows you personally. They would be able to provide the best advice and see you work it in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 12:03 AM
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It’s not guaranteed to work for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 11:52 PM
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Go to the most popular clubs in your city, get some alcohol in your system, chat with different women, flirt heavily, be very charming and take it from there
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 11:33 PM
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Dating is a social activity. Ppl that have personality traits (introvert, shy, asocial etc) that stray them away from socializing will always clash with ppl that don’t have those traits. That’s just what it is. Ppl do give grace to those who are introverted and asocial but there’s a limit bcus it can interfere with building the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:42 PM
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In my personal experience men are the ones offering dinner dates ($100+ at least) as first dates and they’re insulted if the woman pays. Some men are just happy to treat a woman and there’s nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:00 PM
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I have never done this. If someone is nice to me (attractive or not) I don’t think anything of it because ppl should be nice to one another anyway. Plus in my experience men flirt very directly, they don’t really do subtlety so being nice wouldn’t really be flirting to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 01:09 PM
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Yall really get on here and say anything
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:04 PM
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If ppl expect natural desire and sex to happen in a relationship then all of this is really irrelevant and being single is probably a better option.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 07:38 PM
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Nope, sounds like a life of misery. Having a man has never been that important to the point of being with someone that’s sexually unattractive. That’s why a lot of women rather be single than settle for just anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 06:57 PM
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I’m not sure where this idea came from that women can’t love but men can. Men ain’t loving any woman that’s ugly or that’s not having sex with them so they’re no different than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 03:51 AM
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You’re actually right, being bald and short is not a skill issue. Having no dignity and living with a victim mentality is though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 04:50 PM
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That’s a skill issue that they need to work on if they desire certain dating outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 01:43 PM
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That’s when you leave them and find someone who’s willing to give you what you desire. They clearly didn’t like you enough. The point of dating is to find someone who’s willing to give you what you desire. If you desire sex up front then find someone who’s willing to give it to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 01:32 PM
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I think it depends. I don’t think being introverted is a deal breaker for most ppl as long as you’re a true introvert and not someone that’s socially awkward that’s masking as an introvert.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 08:40 PM
2

You explained it perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:56 PM
1

Well you have to be desirable to get someone to desire you, that was my original point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:53 PM
0

How exactly do women get away with it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:42 PM
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Is this not the case for everyone that dates? Most ppl don’t find most ppl they date ideal for a LTR. You usually have to go through multiple ppl. I personally believe most ppl aren’t even compatible but that’s where compromise comes in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 02:50 PM
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I’m not even sure how 2 equally anxious ppl would meet and mingle in the 1st place. Also I believe if you have other things going for yourself then she won’t condemn you for being anxious. But you really can’t think you can be anxious, introverted, shy, boring etc and think someone is going to like you. You need some attractive qualities to balance out the unattractive qualities. That’s for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 01:38 PM
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Resentful, Jealousy, Bitterness. A lot of insecure men don’t feel worthy if they can’t have a beautiful woman so they project that onto beautiful women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:25 PM
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I noticed a lot of introverted men are very socially anxious/awkward and sometimes I wonder if they use being an “introvert” to cover for them having social anxiety or being socially awkward. Dating is all about finding someone that matches your speed, if you like to read and stay home then you have to find women that like the same thing but the catch 22 is if you’re both homebodies then you’ll struggle to meet them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 11:42 AM
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If y’all would just date ppl that actually like you instead of groveling for a crumb of attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 11:07 AM
2

This description sounds like Chad could be someone like Drake or Jason Momoa.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 01:48 AM
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I don’t think there’s anything necessarily wrong with wanting your partner to desire you, but that’s the thing, the person has to already be your partner. I think the men that spew this rhetoric want women in general to treat the majority of men that they don’t even know like “chad” and that’s just not happening. Ppl should understand being single is always an option if you’re not getting the treatment you desire in a relationship. You can’t force ppl to treat you how you want to be treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:19 PM
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It’s not unclear, until both parties agree that they’re in a relationship then everyone is single. Your post shows bias. Women participate in the rotation dating just like men because of the less emotional investment and if they find someone worth investing in then they’ll move on with that person. Women desire sex too, especially the women here. No one wants to waste time investing in a relationship that’s probably not going to go anywhere just to have sex so the women move exactly how the men …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 01:49 AM
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I’ve lived in nyc my whole life and I can tell you the men here are mentally exhausted, anxious and jaded. This is just some selective bias because, the men that struggle in dating look up to these men. I think most women overall are more jaded from the men they actually have relationships with, not the men they’re hooking up with or go on 1 or 2 dates with. So some of them decide to have a rotation of men and continue to participate in this lifestyle where there’s less emotional investment. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:44 AM
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Men don’t hate gold diggers they hate that they can’t afford them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 11:38 PM
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If women have to drop their standards, sex is going out the window along with affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:58 PM
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It’s like every other post is a different version of “women need to lower their standards and date men they have absolutely no interest in”. The way that some folks here think you can force someone to like someone else (man or woman) is crazy and a little pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:35 PM
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The men here believe men have no agency in dating and everything is at the mercy of women. Very victimized mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 02:11 PM
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Most men are average and unremarkable just like most women are average and unremarkable
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:25 AM
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It’s not skewed because those men are nowhere near top 10% men tho. They’re not top anything. They’re average at best just like the women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:16 AM
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I def agree plenty of women are wiling to tolerate bad behavior (low standards) from men but not bcus they “look better”. It’s moreso just to say they have a man bcus women are pressured to always keep a man around. An ugly man that has a passable personality wouldn’t be on the app to begin with. Women are definitely out here dating ugly men with an ok personality, it’s way more common than the other way around. Having bad style and a bad personality makes a man less attractive. Women determine …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 02:14 AM
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The low standards is that they’re willing to tolerate very bad treatment and mediocrity just to have a man. So I guess you can say that they basically have no standards. The men that look average but have a shit personality and shit style, that arguably brings them down to the same level that women are at.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 01:20 AM
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I have and those women being obese and ugly doesn’t negate my statement that the men are very average and unremarkable. Many had no sense of style, faces were regular or just plain ugly. Many of the fit guys were ugly which I’m not surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 11:46 PM
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It’s not skewed because it doesn’t work the way men want it to work. On the dating market women determine men’s value and men determines women’s value. Men say women overestimate their value, well men do too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 10:06 PM
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Most of the men on that app from a woman’s perspective were incredibly average. All the tea app proved is that women have incredibly low standards and will put up with a lot of crap from unremarkable men. If you’re truly struggling you’re way below average and not on most ppl’s radar.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 07:42 PM
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Not wanting to go on weekend trips means he’s not adventurous and/or curious which are a personality traits. Also it depends on where you go and what you’re doing. Yes he can make time for it, ppl make time for things they want to do. Monotonous means dull and lacking variety, doing something once in a while adds to the variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 04:09 PM
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Some ideas of a family where the mom and dad works full time and still can have fun and be interesting are Weekend trips with the kids, Cooking new dishes for the family to try, trying a new hobby out of your comfort zone, DIY projects, home improvements/projects, binge watching a foreign show, learning a new skill, building upon a skill you might already have This doesn’t have to happen everyday but once in a while is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:35 PM
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Living a very monotonous life. No interest in trying new things and/or experiences. No passion and very predictable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:09 PM
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I’ve done this and turns out there’s always a reason why they don’t ask you out. In my case they’re introverted and/or shy and I don’t like those traits in men personally. I like extroverted men. Also with men constantly approaching it’s hard to feel the need or want to approach a man. Usually it just goes downhill from when you approach the man compared to the man approaching you. Another thing is for women to risk rejection they’re not going to just ask out anyone like men usually do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:05 PM
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Everyone gets shamed. Men lose their marbles when a woman says “6ft”. It’s all over the internet and there are even subs of men wallowing about not being 6ft so I’d say the shaming is pretty even.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:44 PM
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Women don’t have much motivation to sexualize random men. Especially if they’re not even sexy to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 01:14 AM
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I’m describing the men with absolutely no sexual attraction, desire or energy to women who’s desperate for women’s validation but hate them at the same time. They’re doing nothing but whining & crowding the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:08 PM
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These guys be the most awkward, shy, weak shut in with absolutely zero charisma, can’t flirt, can’t make eye contact, scared to make a move and then expect women to immediately desire that. Like what is there to be desired exactly? Do they even think about what do they have that’s sexually desirable? So much lack of self awareness and at the same time self absorbed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:37 PM
4

So just date women that desires you the way you want to be desired. Is that not the whole point of dating? To find someone you’re compatible with?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:04 PM
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Like once a year maybe. I’m just not that visually attracted to most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 08:36 AM
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I think women are just used to men’s sexuality since it’s been the standard since forever. To be fair men are also struggling with accepting women’s sexuality since women have been more open about it in the past few decades. For example the height thing literally have some men ready to kill themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 08:50 PM
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I honestly can’t tell you since I’m not a man. I think women value leadership traits in men and a lot of these qualities fall under that umbrella.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 07:03 PM
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I personally think your reasonings are fine but in general women view them as unattractive because Lack of initiative plus This is grouping all women together, how do you know she feels that way? Men don’t like to be pre judged based on what other men think or say. So that’s unattractive. Everyone gets rejected that’s apart of life. If you’re getting rejected a lot maybe he needs to self evaluate but that indicates something is off. Another lack of initiative also missed opportunity
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:54 PM
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I agree and those reasons still fall under the umbrella of “unattractive” to most women which is the whole point. Not approaching signals something unattractive about the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:20 PM
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I’m a little confused, I’m under the impression that most men initiate/approach, I mean that’s been my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 05:22 PM
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Ok I assumed approach included initiating as well
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 05:10 PM
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I think it’s just as simple as women don’t find men that don’t approach attractive because it usually signals another trait they don’t find attractive. Men that typically don’t approach don’t do it for a reason. That reason usually includes, being shy, being awkward, being afraid (women like courageous men) and just a general lack of social skills. Women in general find these traits unattractive. I’m not saying it’s right but that’s what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:34 PM
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It’s probably just as simple as she makes him feel good. Ppl that are bitter and neurotic make dating way more complicated than it has to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 01:02 PM
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Comfortable with yourself, don’t need anyone’s approval, not a neurotic, don’t feel the need to prove your worth to women, very competent, cool calm collected. Idk who Leo Skepi is but maybe he’s the type to fake confidence. There are women that still like that type of man like the Leo guy but that doesn’t negate women liking a genuinely confident man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:34 PM
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A lot of what you wrote sounds like something you personally experienced and you’re projecting that onto my comment. I’m not trying to hide anything and say something like “yeah you can be ugly and lusted for just have a great personality!” Na babe you need good looks first.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:36 AM
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I thought I was pretty straightforward. If you need further explanation please see below. Good looking face: Combination of genetics, grooming and hygiene. Somewhat fit physique: exactly what it says. That means you should be in the gym, maybe maintain a diet but woman should be able to see some muscles on you somewhere. Be confident: You accept who you are (hobbies, lifestyle, looks etc) and the woman can take it or leave it. You’ll still be happy regardless of outcome. Be flirty/escalate sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:13 AM
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I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s true
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:47 AM
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They feel entitled. Notice you’ll see those same type Of men use the term “look match” bcus they believe that they should be able to get a woman solely based on nothing. Of course their look match is determined by no one else besides him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:08 PM
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Have a good looking face, somewhat fit physique, be confident like you’re comfortable with yourself and you’re not begging for some outside validation, be flirty and know how to escalate sexually without being awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:32 PM
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All of women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 09:17 AM
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Yes that along with looking good. For me you have to have both.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 02:46 AM
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Can you link your source because it would help
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:27 PM
2

I don’t think about them at all. I would assume they’re probably shy or awkward which generally women don’t find attractive in men or maybe they don’t want to be bothered by women and dating and that’s completely fair. Regardless it’s probably in women best interest to entertain the men who initiate and approach 1st.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 06:49 PM
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I think the issue is more so getting them to go out and be social. If they were social, the setting wouldn’t really matter imo. A lot of young adults have social anxiety and are very socially awkward so that has to be addressed first.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 06:36 PM
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Probably because in general women don’t see their position as advantageous. There’s some drawbacks that women deal with in dating and they believe they hold more weight than not being able to get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 09:02 PM
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Probably the 1st one because he initiates the romance by being flirty. I assume the 2nd guy would just be platonic I guess? Since he’s not flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 04:34 PM
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Exactly, many of them believe the government needs to get involved and want women’s rights restricted all because he can’t get a date. They tend to compare not having a relationship/sex to not having a job. It’s really their mindset that’s the problem and why ppl have no sympathy for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:31 AM
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Anything abnormal I would reject. Abnormally big and Abnormally small
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 08:01 PM
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I would imagine if you’re undesirable to an extent and know that, it’s probably feels like a shot at you personally when women describe all the traits they want in a man and you have none of them. That builds resentment and they lash out by trying to shame women. These type of men would love for women to lower their standards and settle for them because that’s probably the best he can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:39 PM
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The women that are giving you advice are most likely not the same women you’re approaching. They’re different and have different opinions regarding approaching women. Maybe you should trust your own judgment (because it sounds like you’re not confident in yourself) instead of relying so heavily on random ppl who you don’t know. You need a level of discernment. Cold approaching doesn’t sound like something that you’re comfortable with so that means you should probably try something that’s more co…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:13 PM
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People are going to give advice based on their life experiences and what they think works. Advice always vary and should be taken with a grain of salt unless they’re a person very close to you. Imo ppl very close to you and actively in your life would probably give the best advice. Please understand women are different. I personally have no problem with a man approaching me in any setting (grocery store, library, club, bar, garden etc) for me it’s more about how you approach. There are women tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 04:50 PM
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I don’t think a lot will change. Maybe more single ppl and less babies but we have that now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 06:33 PM
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I believe you’d get a relationship like this as long as there’s mutual genuine attraction between the 2 partners. The problem is ppl are with ppl who they’re not genuinely attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 05:02 PM
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Men want to be naturally desirable which is fair but you need to have something that women naturally desire. That’s just what it is. A lot of these men will literally hate women because she desires a big dick and that’s the problem, she’s allowed to desire whatever and you shouldn’t take your insecurities out on the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:33 PM
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I understand that the research represents a decent amount of women. Me personally, prioritize looks. If I can’t look at you then I really won’t care that much to pursue anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:18 PM
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I just don’t understand why can’t these men just date the women without kids. Why even put yourself through all of this unnecessary mental gymnastics for someone you deem not your type? She has a kid Oh that’s not what I want so I will move on Really simple Just seems like again another roundabout way for undesirable men to blame their undesirability on women. Honestly ppl that think like this probably shouldn’t breed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:25 PM
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This assumes that women would approach men how men approach women. With women approaching men that will not be the case because women aren’t motivated by sex like men are. Men play the numbers game. Numbers game doesn’t benefit women. Women will only shoot their shot if the man is entirely worth it, like he has to be the full package or majority of the package. I don’t see how this would make men happier because they’ll just hold a lot of resentment for not being approached. Men desire women muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:09 PM
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Tall men with big dicks are always top tier.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 11:31 AM
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As someone who tells men why they’re rejected, trust me they will spiral. Even for things they can control they want to argue with you and berate you and many women can tell you that. So yes I believe if you tell men how unattractive they are, they eventually will spiral and it’s not really worth telling them. They’re on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 11:04 PM
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Most already know why they’re rejects. You see them all the time refer to themselves as ugly or hideous, short, whatever. But let’s say he doesn’t know When he goes to the gym , changes his diet and realizes he did all that work for nothing because women thinks he looks like a fit crypt keeper then he’ll definitely spiral. Unfortunately you can’t “solve” everything wrong with you and that can send ppl insane if they keep getting rejected over something they have no control over. Then that one un…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:28 PM
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Please, if a man gets rejected consistently and every woman tells him it’s his face, He’ll eventually spiral. You already see these men spiraling on the internet because of the fact they’re rejects. imagine witnessing that in person because you happen to be the 146th woman to tell him he’s rejected because of his face.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 05:50 PM
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Seems like you two are compatible and that’s the point of dating. Too many ppl want to impose on others what they should and shouldn’t want. If a woman doesn’t like coffee dates and likes an expensive well thought out 1st date then she’s allowed that desire. If the man doesn’t want that then he moves on, very simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 05:30 PM
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We talk first get to know the basics of each other, plan a proper date then go on date. I wouldn’t invite them for coffee for any reason because it’s boring and shows minimal effort. Out of all the things to do, your 1st choice is a coffee date? That says a lot about the person. Unless you live in a town where there’s not much going ok then I’ll make an exception. This is only complicated for ppl that either don’t date as much or who want to put in minimal effort because dating is a project to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 05:16 PM
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Not really. When you’re talking to them prior to the date (through phone calls, text messages, video calls) you usually ask “what do you like to do for fun” or “what are your interests”. Sometimes ppl ask directly “what’s your ideal 1st date” and go from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 04:49 PM
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Probably because they’re boring and show minimal effort. Dating can be and should be fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 04:24 PM
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If a man is this obsessed with his size then yes yours is too small. Let’s move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:57 PM
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There’s only something wrong for ppl who are undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:12 PM
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Well my anecdotal experience matches the algorithm so I’ll continue to believe that 🤷🏾‍♀️ It’s not a bad thing anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 02:13 PM
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You can easily go on a place like twitter or instagram and see women talking about how much they like a big dick. This is just a case of someone that goes down the rabbit hole searching for something and they find it. The general consensus is that women like big dicks, that doesn’t mean women who don’t like em or care for them don’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 12:40 PM
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I would take it if I can spend it to help others but since I can’t I would not take the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 12:11 PM
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Who even determines the look match? How do we know that they’re truly a look match? What is it even based on? Women and men are attracted to different things in each other so what exactly is supposed to “match”? There’s no objective scale that lists everyone and their “looks match”. I can easily say Jason Momoa is my looks match and insult him because he’s not attracted to me. That’s basically how a lot of these dudes sound. The whole concept is insane honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 10:26 PM
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Men are absolutely free to get their closest friends, make a reservation at their fav restaurant or go fishing or go to an amusement park etc and have a good time and emotionally bond.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:29 PM
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I mean is this not considered moving the goal post, the point is that it happens. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:24 PM
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He has to be at least cute for me to be physically attracted. If cute is above average, then no, being average in the face with good grooming will not make me physically attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:22 PM
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Making her laugh a lot Having a big D/Giving good oral Watching her kids/cleaning and helping around the house (she was a single parent)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:03 PM
4

Makes sense. I appreciate your input
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:57 PM
2

I just don’t identify as one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:37 PM
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I understand that and I agree with the core aspect and I still choose not to identify as one and that’s ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:37 PM
2

I’m not really interested in modern feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:18 PM
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Money is not the only redeeming quality, it’s not my problem that you don’t believe that. Understand that different types of women exist. Regardless, I was talking about what I’ve personally seen women date unattractive men for. Yes I’ve seen women date ugly broke men for other reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:49 PM
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Yes you absolutely have to be good looking in the face for me. I will not be with someone who is ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:10 PM
3

No I’m not
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:05 PM
10

Is women in group bias also innate ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:40 PM
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I’m all for men building stronger emotional bonds amongst each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:11 PM
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For me personally the physical attraction has to be there but yes there are women that will date a man who she’s not physically attracted to because he has other redeeming qualities. I’ve seen it happen relatively often.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:38 PM
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Probably for stability & lifestyle, like when a young woman marries a wealthy old dude
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:17 PM
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Well either way she’s not sexually attracted to him and that’s the point and probably why she cheated. To me personally if the sexual attraction isn’t there then she most likely settled.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:44 AM
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Trust me I firmly believe women should only be with men they’re attracted to but hey maybe the “women need to lower their standards” mantra got in their head
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:33 AM
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Maybe for the stability or for the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:19 AM
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Maybe those men aren’t sexually attractive or the man stopped being sexually attractive which is why the woman cheated, to get the thrill of being with a man they’re sexually attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:17 AM
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I think from the male pov they believe what they want in a woman is more “reasonable” than what women want in a man. That’s where the disconnect and the sense of entitlement stems from. I do agree that the market decides if you’re attractive or not. If you did what you believe is necessary to become attractive and you’re still not getting what you desire, that just means you’re still not desirable enough for the person you want. This happens for women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 02:06 PM
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Pretty rare. When I do see a man that I’m attracted to I genuinely think my eyes are playing tricks on me because it doesn’t happen often. I usually have to look at him a couple times before I confirm I’m attracted to him lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 03:50 AM
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Women only shame weirdos and creeps.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:26 PM
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I assume because he’s attractive and would prefer that over an unattractive son
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 01:00 PM
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I wouldn’t want a misogynist son so I’d choose B
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 10:35 PM
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I mean men that don’t provide also want the same things as men that provide so it’s in the women’s best interest to get with the man she gets the most out of.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 11:20 AM
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I don’t understand some men’s obsession with wanting to be settled for. It’s so disingenuous because men are always complaining how they don’t feel genuine desire from women. Understand that women are different from men and women lowering their standards means they’re not attracted to you whatsoever. There’s no amount of “women can lower their standards a little and maybe he can be 5’6” instead of 5’9” and she will still be attracted” NOPE if she lowers her standards she’s just tolerating your e…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 04:19 PM
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Women obsess over aesthetics because they want to be physically attracted to their man and strongly desire him. Without the physical attraction, there’s really no point to being with the man imo. If a “good” man is invisible that most likely means he’s physically unattractive. You don’t need to look like Henry Cavill but you also can’t look like the hunch back of notre dame. Women want a physically attractive man who is also good to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:41 PM
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You are right. “Choose me because no one else will”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 01:36 PM
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The “choose better” advice is never genuine advice anyway. Look at the ppl who give the advice. Always take it with a grain of salt. When women are told to choose better it basically means choose the ugly “nice” guy who’s awkward, shy an engineer and can’t get a girl to like him. It’s never choose the cute, funny good man who’s a store manager.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 01:21 PM
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If you’re cute in the face I can work with the lack of confidence and height but I’m absolutely not bothering with a man who’s ugly and has low confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 04:33 AM
2

Not at all
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:34 PM
2

I like excitement or intriguing dates/outings like going to the museum or the botanical garden, the library (the library always have fun events going on), roller skating, escape rooms, a jazz bar, ax throwing, arcades etc. I live in a very active city so there’s a lot to do. I don’t mind dinner neither because I like to eat. I prefer the guy makes the 1st move but I’ve had men offer a date but don’t know what they want to do on the date so I’ll offer suggestions. I always offer to split the date…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:26 PM
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New experiences & traveling and I don’t think men value the same things I do
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:16 PM
8

It’s not even just dating anymore, employers do this too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 04:24 PM
1

I agree with you, ppl are very selfish nowadays. It’s unfortunate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 04:03 PM
2

I’m not saying it’s right just why ppl do it. Ppl are going to do what feels the most comfortable for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 03:41 PM
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Ppl ghost because they don’t believe the person is worth the extra effort of ending things properly. Basically “ I don’t owe you anything” mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 02:01 PM
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Yes there are women that care about their partners. Maybe you’re not attracted to those women but they definitely exist. I think everyone only cares about their own self interests because ppl are afraid of being played so there’s definitely entitlement in both genders. Everyone wants to be the player and not the one being played.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 02:02 AM
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Absolutely nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 06:27 PM
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As someone who lives in NY, my friends and I are regularly approached (by men and women) when we go out. We went roller skating and there were a lot of young ppl interacting and having a good time, taking pics etc. I appreciate the fact that social media hasn’t ruined things too much. Don’t get me wrong there were still ppl staring at their phones but it wasn’t everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 03:46 PM
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Idc for them because idk them but some women like them because they’re basically not a bitch and tend to be more exciting, more interesting , more masculine, more stoic, confident and have more courage than your average man. Some women haven’t been exposed to a decent masculine man in all their lives so they go after easy targets which are bad men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 12:53 PM
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We like compliments, just not creepy ones. You look great in that dress ✅ Your ass is fat in that dress ❌ Also a lot of guys are just weird asf, they’ll give a compliment and will eye fuck the hell out of you. Men know how to turn an innocent interaction weird very quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 09:49 PM
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Everything I said in my original comment is researched
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 09:04 AM
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Ok and my anecdotal experience is the opposite, now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 08:42 AM
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This is true
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 03:24 PM
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Some women are definitely choosing to not date at all. It’s a slow process but many more will get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 02:50 PM
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I think women are slowly getting there, that’s why they’re probably more likely to end a relationship, the birth rate is going down and the percentage of single women increases every year.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 02:34 PM
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Where exactly? Where are the men like Jason Momoa, Chris Brown and George Clooney the top of the desirable chain with no biases and there’s substantial proof that they’re 100% desirable telling women to lower their standards? A post from an anonymous user doesn’t count because we don’t even know who you are nor do we have any way to prove your position isn’t biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 09:17 PM
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Basically you don’t need another person to make a living. Ppl have a lot more freedom nowadays to do what they want and what’s necessary to make a living. The harsh truth is that undesirable ppl are basically on their own. Most of society does not care about undesirable ppl and that will not change. They unfortunately have to figure it out on their own because dating is not seen as necessity, it’s a privilege. Dating involves the autonomy of another human being and you can’t regulate that withou…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:35 PM
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I agree, I think the “lower your standards” advice comes from a place of disingenuousness. You don’t see men that are attractive that have fun dating around, or men that find relationships with women they’re attracted to and love telling women to lower standards. It’s mostly men that struggle, resent women and are undesirable to the average woman who believe women should lower their standards. How else will they get their crumb of pussy that they can’t get on their own accord?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:45 PM
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When you think about it, dating and being able to find someone who likes you and finds you attractive is a privilege but too many ppl believe it’s a right. You can’t force someone to like you or accept you. You have to offer something that they want. If you don’t offer it then you get nothing and that goes for everyone. We’re in an era where ppl can live relatively decent on their own so no one is getting together unless you’re absolutely worth being with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:59 PM
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Weird. Prior to leaving, does the person even know for sure you like them? The gift and the departure speech is unnecessary. I don’t think relying on hints is a good idea, use your words because we’re adults. It just seems like the one with crush wants to make the other person feel bad because they’re too much of a coward to admit their feelings. It makes them feel better about the unrequited love they possess. Overall this is not the right thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 04:47 PM
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Socializing/meeting people in person is just always better. You get to see firsthand their body language, how they interact with you and others, hear their voice. It’s easier to hide behind a mask online as well. Overall it’s just a more authentic experience compared to meeting someone through a screen. So that plus everything else you listed is what deters women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:27 PM
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He’s just visually unappealing. Women befriend men that are visually stunning and that usually turns into her liking him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:51 AM
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The attraction just isn’t there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:05 PM
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Whatever you say man
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 10:31 PM
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Life is what you make of it. My life doesn’t suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 10:06 PM
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Yes absolutely! I more so don’t like that women get the blame for when an undesirable man can’t get a woman. Because some men are unwanted now those men don’t want to live and want to cause harm and ruin to civilization etc. Society is doomed and women are to blame blah blah blah. If that’s the case then Society will be doomed. If women have to be with men they don’t want for men to want to maintain society then I guess this society ain’t worth maintaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 10:03 PM
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I’m just tired of women constantly being blamed because ugly billy is unwanted. I really don’t care what men do, spin a million plates. As long as women aren’t blamed then have a blast.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 09:47 PM
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They don’t care because all they know is that they’re unwanted by women so the only conclusion is that women like terrible men because they don’t want him. Lmaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 08:37 PM
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Nothing is better than women being able to express their true desires after suppressing them for so long. Men just need to find new purpose and stop relying so heavily on obtaining women like we’re trophies. If men’s only reason for wanting a civilized society is so they can have a woman then they’re pathetic. Imagine putting so much of your sanity onto a whole other being that have their own wants dreams desires and thoughts. Then women get blamed and even sometimes killed because Billy Bob is …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 08:25 PM
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There’s not really a solution so all you can do is let them be. You can’t control other ppl. Just move on. It just comes off as disingenuous because undesirable men only want women to be more humble for their own selfish desires. They don’t actually care about the woman and what she wants. They just want to have her. It’s like saying all men 6ft+ need to humble themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:11 AM
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Sounds about right. She’s taking the 1st step to choosing better by dumping the guy she’s incompatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 04:36 PM
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Another tactic for unattractive men to try to shame their way into getting an attractive woman since they know they can’t compete for one but desperately desire one. They should take their own advice, lower their standards and get with women they deem unattractive but they won’t and it’s hilarious that they expect women to do that. These are the same guys that cry when their women doesn’t desire them, well duh she lowered her standards for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:44 PM
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I don’t get tired of them, I love them unless they’re extremely inappropriate. I’ve had some that were inappropriate but I just ignored it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:08 PM
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So accept the cards dealt to you and stop blaming women. If men will continue to blame women then women will continue to encourage men to stop revolving their livelihood around women and do things for themselves. Leave women completely out of it. If men can develop a solution that places the responsibility and blame on themselves then we’re all for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:08 PM
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Either men need to accept it by working with their nature and continue to impress women or go cold turkey, stop seeking validation from women and play video games or whatever. Either way this is a problem that men need to resolve with themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:07 PM
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Yes I agree. Men can definitely validate each other and then they won’t need women’s validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:23 PM
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That’s fine, I’m just tired of women being blamed for men dating woes. If that’s what needs to happen, I’m all for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:21 PM
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Men just need to be released from the shackles of women approval which they have to do on their own. You’ll never be happy doing things for the approval of others, whether that’s men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 01:57 PM
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I’m in nyc so that’s where I’m meeting them at.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 04:19 AM
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You’re right. Women don’t like to be commodities but unfortunately that’s not the case and will never not be the case most likely. I believe women are just reacting to being commodified and it’s men who made women commodities. Basically a chicken and egg situation. I don’t think women are transactional and therefore men expect sex. It’s the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 03:58 AM
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Well then women will move accordingly and will continue to expect men to pay. That’s just what it is I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 03:37 AM
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But the expectation is there regardless. If the expectation wasn’t there then there wouldn’t be women expecting men to pay. Address that expectation 1st and then everything else will fall into place including women expecting men to pay/being transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 03:08 AM
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Men expect sex regardless of who’s paying and how the date even goes and I think that’s the core of issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 02:44 AM
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Do you want women to give men attention the same way men give women attention? Or do you think it’s better for men to go cold turkey and stop giving women attention for nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:49 PM
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People put their own interests first and then get with other ppl who put their own interests firsts and it becomes a cycle of self absorbed behavior. That’s why dating and relationships are in the state that they’re in.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:40 PM
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I don’t think it’s a red flag. This is honestly very common for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 01:42 PM
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You’re right women have absolutely zero incentive to change. There’s always a man willing to deal with her BS. Men can just wake up tomorrow and choose not to change for women but because they basically worship sex, then that’s not going to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 11:18 PM
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I think That’s fine, men are free to invest in whatever they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:22 PM
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You’re right
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:42 PM
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Not everyone will experience genuine desire unfortunately, that’s just life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:38 PM
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I think that’s fine. I personally would not be with a man unless he’s fine cute or good looking. Unfortunately there’s going to be a lot more single ppl but hey it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:30 PM
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Modern men want to be heavily desired off their looks alone. Unfortunately the overwhelming majority of men are neutral looking (have always been and will continue to be) and will never generate that desire by existing. I believe men wanting to be desired this way is solely a modern age thing even though I could be wrong. Looks aren’t necessarily as important because if women relied solely on looks, relationships would almost be nonexistent lmao. How often do women go through life and see a man …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:03 PM
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I would do nothing. Women seem to dislike men being motivated by women because Once men start doing things solely to get women, the ones that are unsuccessful become deranged and feel the need to spread their misogynistic hateful misery everywhere. At least before the internet they would just hide in a basement now we all have to see their existence online.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:55 PM
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I guarantee her DM says otherwise. As someone who lives in a large city this is not the case for the women here. That’s why they have rosters.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 12:10 PM
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Ppl only advise self improvement bcus that’s the only thing you have control over in the dating world. If you desire a relationship or just someone to show interest in you, you have to increase your chances by self improvement. If you self improve and still struggle then the unfortunate truth is you’re not someone who’s desirable in the dating world. If you don’t want to self improve then you don’t have to, doing nothing is always an option but it comes with consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 06:32 PM
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As long as sex is involved in relationships, ppl will date according to their shallow preferences. No one wants duty, passionless, stick and board, dry as a desert, limp dick sex. Shallow preferences contribute a lot to the hot sex in a relationship. Ppl really need to let this topic go, or maybe we need a pinned post about standards/preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 03:36 AM
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Like the men do in this subreddit 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:27 PM
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Omg I’ve heard that so many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:01 PM
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You’re absolutely right.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:52 PM
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If you say so hun
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:32 PM
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Understandable. I think you can better results scrolling social media tbh. That’s why so many men seethe because women honestly boasting online about how they like tall good looking men with money and whatever other shallow traits they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:28 PM
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Wow a study done with 150 women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 02:24 PM
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Well then men have their answer on why some women aren’t honest and this op is pointless
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 02:16 PM
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The point is they exist somewhere. Idc about a weird porn obsessed subreddit that fetishize small boobs. The point is ppl have their preferences and most of us have been rejected due to something we can’t change. The rest of us just move on with life. Most ppl don’t care if you think it’s a problem because you and everyone else can’t police other ppl preferences. Go where you’re wanted even if that’s another country. Men want women to be honest, well here you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 02:12 PM
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As someone who’s been rejected for having small boobs and made fun of by men, I agree. Ppl like what they like and are allowed that. You can’t change ppl preferences. Just move on. There are women that will happily date a shorter man. Unfortunately you can’t tell these guys with low self esteem that bcus they already have their mind made up and their biases won’t allow it. They rather wallow in self pity and blame everyone under the sun. No one wants to be around someone like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 12:53 PM
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I never said it was equal nor do I or women care if it’s equal. Ppl like what they like that and includes men. Yeah it’s tough being around such men with low self esteem who never stops wallowing in self pity. It’s very tiresome whew !
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 12:34 PM
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Women admit their shallow preferences if they have them, why do you think men are up in arms throughout social media? So many examples on different platforms of women turning down men because he’s short, has no style or bald and men are ready to basically off themselves and say women will be an old cat lady. Even in this subreddit you see it. I do agree sometimes women berate men for shallow preferences but nowadays I definitely think men literally take it to the next level. Just the height thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:23 AM
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Ppl are allowed to have their thoughts, opinions and feelings and that includes RP ppl. I think as long as they don’t hurt, disrespect or insult anyone then they’re not a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:43 PM
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Unfortunately ppl will always have their opinions. In reality It really doesn’t matter what someone else thinks of your preferences. At the end of the day you’re the one who will be choosing that person to date not the ppl shaming you. Women constantly get shamed for having height preferences but they still chase after those men because that’s what they want. The shaming can only get to you if you allow it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 01:34 PM
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Yes , we can’t force men to like what they don’t like.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:18 PM
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I think the “gender war” is because ppl are policing other ppl standards expectations and preferences way too much. Ppl are allowed whatever standards they desire. If you don’t meet them or agree with them you move onto the next person. Staying single is also another option.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:17 PM
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Move on
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:12 PM
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I mean it happens to all of us, you just have to move on unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:09 PM
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So this is a matter of the ppl you want don’t want you. Ppl are allowed whatever standards they desire. The truth is you’re just undesirable to the ppl you want. This goes for men and women. Beggars can’t be choosers, maybe those who are struggling should take their own advice and go after the people that want you. Instead they want the ppl that they desire who is clearly desired by others to pick someone who is clearly undesirable and unable to compete. Makes no sense. Ppl that are undesirable …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:50 PM
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To a certain extent yes they can. Now whether you can become desirable to the woman you want is another story.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:41 PM
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Well by definition if they were actually decently desirable that means someone has to desire them no? The truth is they’re just not desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:38 PM
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It’s really simple, Undesirable ppl are undesirable for a reason. Choose better is just smoke n mirrors for “choose me” or men like me because they clearly can’t compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:32 PM
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I think ppl have their standards for a reason which they’re allowed to have. Someone lowering their standards on their own accord is fine, I just don’t like men policing women standards because they’re undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:07 AM
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I always thought it was odd that men want women to lower their standards on looks but complain when they’re not desired by their woman. Looks contribute at least 50% to your overall desire. I don’t think women (or men) should ever lower their standards unless they’re not content with being single. In that case do it so your SO doesn’t feel settled for. IMO Lowering standards just turns into resentment later. Let women have high standards and either price themselves out the market or she’ll find …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:27 AM
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I’ve already seen this happening. It’ll get more popular as more women end up single. I’ve even seen some women get together buy a house and basically live as roommates. Just give it time
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 07:17 AM
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It is possible. I just gave general examples, it depends on the woman what exactly she wants the man useful for.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 09:50 PM
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Be of use. Ex: cut the lawn, fill up her gas, pay for dinner, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 09:31 PM
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In general, someone cute/attractive in the face, masculine, confident, knows what he wants, charismatic, charming, useful, funny, caring, has a sense of style, well groomed, and selfless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 09:15 PM
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That could be true. The standard to be above average is pretty low tho. Just don’t be overweight and have a toned physique and boom you’re already above average. That’s not enough for women to not want to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 09:02 PM
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Because what they’re really upset about is them not being picked. The “women should lower standards” is just smoke n mirrors for “women should pick me”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 08:45 PM
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Women raise their standards because they want to be with the most idealistic man so the relationship is worth pursuing and maintaining. Anything less than isn’t worth it. Women don’t necessarily want to be alone but it’s the better option of the 2 worse options. If women options are be with a mediocre partner who you’ll probably have to have duty sex with and invest time and effort into a relationship vs being alone and not having to deal with another subpar person then women will choose the lat…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 08:29 PM
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The difference is struggling men haven’t even got to the point where they’re even dealing with another person, it’s literally just you. The only person that can change their circumstances is you because you don’t have another willing partner you’re involved with. Women are complaining about men they’re already involved with. The problems definitely differ so they require different solutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 02:26 PM
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There’s only but so much of the “top” men to go around, women lower their standards to casually date otherwise they wouldn’t have a date every other day. Plus you’re not going to find every standard you want in a man so lowering standards is pretty common.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 06:13 PM
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This should be a discussion instead of a debate. There’s nothing wrong with dating around because it can be fun. Maybe if those men lower their standards enough and move to a large city, they might have a chance at dating around. A lot of the women that date around lower their standards anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 05:53 PM
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If person A confess their feelings and it’s not reciprocated by person B but person B still wants to be friends, it’s person A responsibility to remove themselves from the situation. How is person B being manipulative if all person B wants to do is maintain the friendship? Buying gifts, hanging out, doing favors, giving/receiving compliments are all things done in friendships and in no way indicates someone is being manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:44 PM
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As someone who lives in a very large city, I agree that some women have basically a roster and for a variety of different purposes. It’s really only the super attractive who do have a roster though. It’s the same as super attractive men. Women are told that we should expect him to spin plates if we’re going after a good looking man over 6ft man. If that’s the case then men should also expect a very attractive woman to spin plates. That’s the game
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:06 PM
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I’m saying you can plan out a date that doesn’t require you to spend a lot of money. A picnic, a walk, a scenic drive, hiking etc. It’s always the thought that counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:47 AM
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It’s really simple, you balance a lot of things in life. From the food you eat to budgeting, your time on social media/screentime, etc. Women just want you to apply that balance to the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 01:34 AM
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I think what women want is a balance. It seems like men think it’s all or nothing. If she thinks you’re going to the gym too much, that means just balance the time at the gym with whatever else you have going on. If she believes you’re working too much, create a balance where it’s not too much but not too little. Also, dates don’t always require money, be spontaneous and plan a nice dinner date at home or a walk to the park, sitting on the beach etc. Women just want a balanced effort in a relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 01:23 AM
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I would rather mop the ocean with a strand of hair than be force to marry and depend on some guy. If the world ends because men can’t get women then I will gladly accept that fate. It’s always funny how lonely men threaten civilization and the future of society when they can’t get women. Are we really sure that men don’t need women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:49 PM
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So you’re using a small population to generalize everyone? Sounds like a sure way for one to victimize themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:33 PM
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Based off a mixer?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:17 PM
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Because deep down they still want women who are cat ladies and promiscuous to settle down with a Billy Bob so he won’t be lonely and miserable. For every single woman there is a single man. They don’t want women to be single because that means there’s a lonely man out there single and he’s suffering. You’re right they are miserable which is why they feel the need to spread it unnecessarily. If RP truly did work and RP men actually found a woman who loves, desires and cherish them, cat ladies and…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:49 PM
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How does women not engaging with men at mixers prove that women’s type is narrow?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 04:46 AM
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Idk, ask them. Maybe they’re bored and need something to do. Maybe the men at the mixers aren’t their type. I don’t go to mixers nor do I know ppl who do so I can’t give you a solid answer. I would imagine women who attend mixers are a very small percentage anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 04:21 AM
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Friendship can help with loneliness. OP even mentions focusing on friendship while embracing being single
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:13 AM
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Embrace Being single? Yes I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 11:56 PM
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Just not interested in a romantic connection. The woman that are interested in a romantic connections will absolutely engage with men with romantic intent. Most Women engage with men for professional purposes and/or friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 11:25 PM
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Makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 07:54 PM
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Well OP is encouraging men to do exactly that so we’ll see.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 07:54 PM
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To a certain extent you’re right it is coping. I think eventually once you accept your singleness then you don’t have to cope anymore. Coping is a mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 06:03 PM
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Embracing single life is exactly what it says, embracing being unattached. You’re making it more complicated than it should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 03:46 PM
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Well like I said Women are still learning to embrace singleness. It’s not a streamlined process. By definition they’re still single though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 03:22 PM
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Have you tried posting in the more older male dominated subs? To see what they think. I’m excited to see men embrace singleness, I think it’ll be great for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 03:20 PM
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I think the only way men can fight back against what society tells them is if they collectively decide to embrace singleness. I don’t believe the overwhelming majority of men want that. As far as I can tell the only men that want this is mostly younger men. You need all men onboard.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 03:05 PM
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I genuinely believe that men by nature crave women validation and intimacy and it’s not something imposed on them by society. That’s the only part I disagree with. Besides that, I do think men can learn to embrace the single life like women are doing (I think women are still learning to embrace being single). You don’t have to worry about anyone besides yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 02:50 PM
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He’s dying and he’s still worried about dating?. Lmaooo I absolutely would not help him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 06:13 PM
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Man what the hell
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:16 PM
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Understandable but you can’t project your insecurities onto someone else. I would imagine being with someone who offers no passion or little passion is depressing so the man is just torturing himself staying in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:47 PM
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Maybe it’s best these type of men don’t have Relationships and don’t have children because this is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:00 PM
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Raw desire does exist, but that’s not necessarily the point. The point is to find someone who fulfills your expectations for passion and desire. If you can’t find that, maybe you’re not as desirable as you think. No one’s fault really but that’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:59 PM
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That sounds insane honestly. They barely have any relationship experience and they’re basically day dreaming about being mistreated. I see why they’re alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:32 PM
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I would suggest just leaving the relationship. Life is too short. Go out and find someone who desires you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:27 PM
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I absolutely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:35 PM
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Understandable but the answer is incredibly simple, leave the relationship. You can’t change desire and if it bothers him to where he feels unfulfilled, there’s no point in continuing the relationship. The relationship from that point will always be unstable. He should go out and find a woman who desires him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:35 PM
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Lmaoooo you are so right!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:31 PM
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I think The only men that are worried about this are the men that are undesirable and low self esteem. They want to blame the woman because they’re undesirable. At some point these guys have to take matters into their own hands and stop wallowing in self pity. The men that know they’re desirable or even have a shred of self esteem wouldn’t even entertain this mess. You believe your partner doesn’t desire you, you leave the relationship simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:51 PM
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He should leave the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:42 PM
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This question is asked every other day. It’s like the guys that ask this are expecting some magical answer even though they already have their mind set. Why even be in a relationship if you’re so unsure about your partner’s desire/passion for you? You’re Just bringing in unnecessary stress and baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:28 PM
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No, I would just end the relationship. It doesn’t make sense to be with someone who is insecure about their love for you. I personally don’t want to deal with someone like that, it’s less of a headache to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 10:18 PM
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I think it’s because men on average are visually stimulated much more than women are. Most women are not visually stimulated by men, probably by their man but not men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 11:15 PM
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Very common. An object of desire isn’t necessary and imo sometimes pointless because it’s irrelevant to the goal. It’s like when your body itches, you don’t think about anything when you scratch yourself, you just want relief. Same concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 05:51 PM
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It’s basically lower your standards but you have to somehow be sexually attracted to the man you lowered your standards for.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:08 PM
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Women don’t care that much about dating men to feel the need to lie to them about their preferences. Men have the potential to be dangerous no matter what women say or do. The fact that it’s implied that men would become more dangerous if they learned the so called “truth” says a lot about men more than women, and is lowkey misandrist but idc I’m not a man. Women like tall successful good looking attractive men, which is why men are constantly berating women and telling them to lower their stand…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 09:55 PM
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Women don’t need to lie to men. Men that struggle with dating just need someone else to blame for their own shortcomings. This is an indirect way of doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 05:01 PM
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Just like the men that get rejected once and blame all women for his own shortcomings. Maybe just maybe those ppl are a subset of everyone and don’t represent every woman or man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 04:53 PM
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Yeah I think the woman equivalent to you would prefer to stay single because there’s no point in being around you. Women tend to be more social especially around the ppl that they like & care about. From a woman’s perspective If there’s nothing to gain in being with a man then the relationship is pointless. Not saying what you desire is wrong but expect it to be almost impossible especially if she’s attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:58 PM
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I think it’s rare for women to like and be with a man solely for his existence unless he’s some superstar. I believe even introverted women want to talk to their man and build/maintain a bond. I think even if you built a bond with this woman and eventually you guys stopped talking in the relationship, she would just leave because women typically don’t like men solely for his presence. If that’s the case most women would rather be alone tbh because what’s the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:14 PM
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Yes in regard to dating. Ppl just over complicate it and men that struggle in dating just want something to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 05:14 AM
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I think too much internet and lack of socialization in person has caused more damage. True feminism regarding dating is just women having the option to choose whatever man they desire and being able to live a relatively decent life as a single woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 04:58 AM
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But it’s okay for these men to vilify all women based on a few women complaints and some men poor experiences in dating, mhmm. This is why ppl should just mind their business bcus You don’t genuinely care , just like the rest of these guys. It’s all smoke n mirrors. You need to spread your bitterness bcus you guys so desperately need to blame someone for the resentment that you still cling to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 02:10 AM
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Who are you and why should women care about what benefits you? Lmao less crime, less taxes the way you guys indirectly blame women for everything is pathetic. No better than the women that do the same. Maybe you guys should get together.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 10:39 PM
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And you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 10:03 PM
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What they want is for women to choose them. What else do you expect from those type of men that resent women, are sexually frustrated and need someone to take their misery out on? Just do what makes you happy in your dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 06:04 PM
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Money and status only matter to unlikable guys with no motion with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:35 PM
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It’s absolutely brutal. I believe most of us is doing the best they can with the circumstances they’re in.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 03:52 AM
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And usually the cities with very low col have a dull dating scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 12:23 AM
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Nyc baby
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 12:15 AM
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As someone who lives in a city where the average rent is 4k+, living with parents doesn’t bother me too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:36 PM
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Have an attractive face and we’ll go from there
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 01:43 PM
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I really do appreciate your honesty. Most of us enjoy getting compliments from the sex you’re attracted to as long as it’s not creepy or anything. I don’t see anything wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:02 PM
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Why is this question asked so often
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:56 PM
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I’m confused. Are you talking about asymmetry in that men find more women attractive and women find a smaller portion of men genuinely attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:21 PM
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Ok I see If I had to guess, I would say it probably stems from women finding most men just okay looking. This is not enough for the modern man. As far as I can tell, Modern men want to be heavily sexualized and desired by women and women’s attraction to men just doesn’t work instantly like that. It’s like women wanting men to be attracted to their success and degrees etc Men’s attraction to women doesn’t work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:07 PM
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How do you know for sure it exists in real life ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:43 PM
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I think men outnumber women because they want the easiest and quickest way to get women. Firing up a dating app is much less effort than putting yourself out there in a bar or something. Also dating apps are strictly about aesthetics. Looking good, being physically fit or close to being, having the nicest car, having the most luxurious lifestyle or close to it etc etc. It’s basically another instagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:31 PM
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Most men are okay looking. Women’s attraction to men isn’t symmetrical to men’s attraction to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:15 PM
10

Prior to Trump winning I barely even thought about men in general. Now that Trump has won, I still think of absolutely nothing about men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 04:27 PM
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Because they enjoy wearing the makeup and it doesn’t hurt anyone. Let them wear what they want. Based on OP, You only want them to stop wearing it for your own desires which is very selfish. This is why I said you should personally encourage the women in your life, leave everyone else alone. They’re not bothering you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 01:48 PM
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I don’t think we should encourage women as a whole is my point especially those who are comfortable with makeup. Let the few ppl that it bothers personally encourage their dates, that’s your business but don’t bring everyone else into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:15 AM
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As someone who doesn’t wear makeup at all, I think the men who have an issue with makeup should bring up their concerns to their potential date. Let the men who have no issues with makeup and the women who enjoy makeup mingle and do what makes them happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 05:58 AM
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A lot of women have stories of giving the “nice” guy a chance. A nice guy and an asshole are basically 2 sides of the same coin one just is a wolf in sheep’s clothing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:51 PM
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It’s a good thing that they get the ick, you don’t need to date anyone that shallow and you cut your losses early. I don’t think it’s a good idea to lie because forming relationships on a lie is never an ideal situation. It’ll just cause issues down the line especially if it’s a deal breaker for the woman. At the point both of you will be more invested and it can get messy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 04:26 PM
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Sounds like a stunt for advertising OF. I don’t see why because some women decide to do what they want with their lives and body that we all have to suffer by going back to the rigid norms of patriarchy and religion. That’s her life and business
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:24 PM
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Negative. I think Online Dating is not worth the effort. I prefer to meet someone in person. The connection feels more genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:07 PM
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We see posts like this often. It seems like men issues stem from not being able to date and have a family. There’s not a solution as far as I know because women will only be with a man that she truly likes and is attracted to, nothing less. I think the best solution is the older generation of men should help the younger generation of men to develop a sense of identity outside of a family. Build more intimate communities amongst men and help them create a new purpose in modern day society. Societ…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:15 PM
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Clown activities
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 12:47 AM
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The women you date have nothing to do with me, please move around because you’re not even here in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:10 PM
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How are you gonna tell me what I’m attracted to lmaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 10:59 PM
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They would be extremely sexually attractive even if they weren’t famous or rich. I mean look at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 10:51 PM
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Idk Jason Momoa & Henry Cavill definitely seem like some nice sweet gentlemen and they exude sex appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 05:08 AM
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Maybe I’m misunderstanding the reason why this argument was even made but it seems this whole argument is based on the premise that wanting attention from certain people in a certain context is a bad thing. Yes women desire attention only from men them deem worthy and attractive. This post implies that’s a bad thing and that it’s something that’s not obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:20 AM
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The typical “nice guy” lacks masculinity, courage and is basically a doormat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 04:49 PM
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A lot of women have a story of giving a guy who she thought was nice a chance and it usually ends with him not being as nice as she thought. So on top of being ugly, you’re a dick disguising himself as a “nice” guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:24 PM
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You can’t improve dating sites because the problem isn’t the sites, it’s the ppl on the sites. Improve the ppl and everything else will fall into place.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:12 PM
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I’d be friends with the average person. Hopefully in my state of NY, the average person might be slightly better than the average American person nationwide. I’d argue most ppl don’t want the average person as a partner, that goes for men and women. With each generation the standard to be average gets lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:37 PM
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I think most ppl believe it’s not worth it to invest in someone else, which is why there are more single ppl nowadays and ppl just have bunch of short term relationships. I don’t think it’s just a woman thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:58 PM
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They basically want women to be shamed for not picking them because they’re such a nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:51 AM
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Doesn’t this apply to everyone? It’s basically ppl learning from their mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:32 AM
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She’s not sexually attracted to billy is my point. Men complain about dead bedrooms and will happily skate into one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 08:59 PM
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He can leave, I’ll choose social media and find another man who’s ok with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:50 AM
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I think women approach but only men they find really attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:30 PM
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I don’t see why either would be intimidating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:43 PM
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Lowering superficial standards is a great way to end up in a dead bedroom and men know that so they complain because men want to be highly sexually desirable. Superficial standards includes what you look like and how tall you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 12:55 PM
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If women go after men that’s good looking and overall attractive, then men complain that her standards are too high, women are shallow, women need to give the average joe a chance etc If women lowers their standards then she’s settling for beta billy and men still complain. I think women can’t win either way regarding their standards so go after what you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:19 AM
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Absolutely, I have no issue with men approaching me no matter the setting. As long as they’re respectful which most of the time they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 03:40 PM
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I don’t see why they would need to. I’m in a large city and If you got to a bar, rooftop restaurant or lounge, men are literally everywhere. The women are also there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 02:45 PM
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A lot of Men want casual sex but shame the woman who participates in casual sex. I don’t get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 08:40 PM
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It depends what the husband does for the wife. Like for example does he pay all the bills?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 08:19 PM
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I’m just hoping the violence against women will lessen with AI girlfriends so I’m all for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 03:02 PM
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See the conversation was going good and you had to say stfu. That wasn’t even necessary but I can tell you’re sensitive and easily offended. Hysterical.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:34 PM
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I gave you 1 anecdote to combat your 1 anecdote, I think that’s pretty even. My overall point is based on lived experiences and experiences of others and considering most ppl aren’t virgins after a certain age. I don’t think my opinion or anecdotes are more valid than others but others seem to think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:32 PM
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The guy my friend was dating was a 30 yo 6ft handsome guy and a virgin. We can exchange anecdotes all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:17 PM
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Not knowing how and don’t know where (inexperienced) can be seen as a bad thing at a certain age which is my original point. The rest is willingly choosing not to date. I believe both genders blame others for not winning.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 07:54 PM
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I guess that makes sense if you’re not interested in dating whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 07:08 PM
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It’s not usually looks. Personality & mannerisms are the cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 05:43 PM
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That’s fine, you don’t have to agree. My point still stands though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 05:42 PM
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A lot of dudes have this mentality and then wonder why they barely have a social life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 03:31 PM
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The age part is the most important. If you’re in your 20s I’m not even talking about you. I never specified the age and considering my original comment was talking about a 30 year old man, it’s implied the age I was referring to is 30+. I made sure that my comment referred to a certain age group. Usually after a certain age being a virgin is odd and it can mean something is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 03:13 PM
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We know firsthand in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 02:42 PM
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The empathy they want is smoke and mirrors. What they want is sex and for women to give it to them just because they exist. That’s why women lack empathy for sexless men. Try giving a man in real life empathy for his sexlessness, he’ll mistake it for interest and assume you want to “cure” his sexlessness
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 02:29 PM
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This seems more like a rant than a debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 02:26 PM
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And some ppl I know literally are virgins because they’re insufferable to be around. Now what? That’s why my comment specifically said “usually” and “after a certain age”. Obviously I wasn’t talking about every virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 02:19 PM
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There’s a balance between promiscuity and virgin which most ppl maintain pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 01:56 PM
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Usually after a certain age, besides religious reasons, ppl are a virgin for a reason. That reason is usually not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 01:37 PM
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He was really good looking and because he was a psycho. They only lasted like a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 01:35 PM
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I have a friend that dated a guy who was a 30 yr old virgin but she later learned why he was a virgin. He was very obsessive and insecure. He had a lot of resentment for women and was very angry. Also he was just plain weird to me and clearly lacked proper social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 12:29 PM
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Again the debate is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 03:28 AM
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The debate is pointless since men believe women are lying and already have their mind set. OP is not looking for an honest debate. Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 12:39 AM
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I believe The only ppl that can help create a safe space for young men are other men. The only problem I see is I don’t think enough men genuinely care unless they’re making money off of the men suffering. Women don’t care because they don’t see that men are making an effort to help other men and that’s why young men don’t have support.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 08:41 PM
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This has also been my experience. The truth is they don’t want the truth, just to be coddled and victimized.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 08:14 PM
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Size Matters Height matters Face matters Job matters Wallet matters Hopefully that helps
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 07:01 PM
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Because they’re miserable ppl. RP attracts ppl who are miserable, unloved and unhappy and feel the need to spread it to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 04:26 PM
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How can we even have a decent debate if you start off saying you don’t trust the women to self report? You’re not even looking to debate in good faith from the jump so this post is just BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 01:58 PM
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Women can get a lot of their needs met outside of a relationship with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:45 PM
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I personally think social media has caused the most issues with dating. Ppl lack social skills and barely want to go out and have fun. They rather stare at a screen all day and talk to AI. We’re in a transition phase where adapting is important. I think many ppl will adapt to the new dating market but there will be ppl that will be left behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 03:40 PM
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Yeah that’s not happening, maybe men could put that effort into controlling themselves instead of having women indirectly subjected to their sexual desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 03:56 AM
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So I guess women will always have an upper hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:19 PM
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Many ppl nowadays just want immediate gratification then wonder why relationships don’t last.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 04:27 PM
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Many ppl truly forget that because their bond is built on superficiality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 04:26 PM
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Whatever their attraction to the person was built on wasn’t sustainable. Looks aren’t everything and even if someone is super good looking you get tired of them if they’re not fulfilling other things
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 01:50 PM
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Every time I see a group of young men together, it always ends up being less of a support group and more of a woe is me/women bashing club. I think that contributes to the lack of support young men receive because they have a poor image amongst ppl that don’t know what they’re going through. Young men stereotypes are what’s holding them back and they have to prove that they’re not a stereotype like every other marginalized group had/have to do. I think if young men actually band together and adv…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:31 PM
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Men can stop chasing women and the upper hand women have would vanish 💨 into thin air.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:10 PM
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For the average person yes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:03 PM
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12/15 A lot of my socialization stems from effort. Once you make an initial effort everything trickles down from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:16 PM
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I’m not attracted to dad bods. I love a slim fit man that’s 6’2” and up. He’s like Superman to me lol. I don’t understand why a woman would be insecure about a man looking so good. It’s so damn hard to find a good looking man, when you do find one that’s fit and beautiful I would show him off like a trophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:20 AM
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He just needs someone to blame. If you keep running into women with so much issues going on, the only common denominator is you. It’s the same logic as when women keeps running into narcissist assholes. She would be considered the red flag. Why don’t they apply that same logic to themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 03:37 PM
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Probably can get your bills paid and the man can provide a fun lifestyle for the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:42 PM
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Tell them to get off the apps, stay out women’s inbox, and stay out the bars as well since they’re overcrowded with men and men have had enough 🤷🏾‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:23 AM
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What makes this more hysterical is many are bitter because they can’t get a date. Dudes out here are against serious topics because they can’t get a fucking date. Like wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 03:05 AM
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I’d try it see if I like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 11:50 AM
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I don’t see a problem here. Men have the option to get their money up and you can get a woman that way. The point is men would not get with a woman who doesn’t meet his standard of whatever his standard is. Now women also date with that same mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 11:52 PM
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I believe that women nowadays are more shallow and superficial but I think women just adapted to how men have moved since almost forever. No matter how ugly a man is most men before and now would absolutely never get with a woman who he believes is unattractive and could not offer him what he would want in a relationship. Now that women can pick their own partners, women adopted the same mentality. Also, if the average Billy had the options of Derek Jeter, they would plow through women too. They…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:29 PM
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Honestly I doubt it and I don’t see why they would want to. It wouldn’t make a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:48 PM
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That’s fine, we don’t really care
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:05 AM
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American Women have no incentive to change
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 11:52 PM
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Yeah you have to get out and socialize.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:31 PM
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I’m not sure if this counts since it actually went somewhere. Once in my entire life. I found this guy at a restaurant I get lunch from pretty attractive but because he was work I didn’t want to bother him. One of his co workers actually broke the ice and surprisingly they told me he thought I was attractive as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:23 PM
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A lot of different factors go into what makes men attractive. It’s not as rigid as a lot of insecure men think. 5’9 or 5’10 is usually a decent height for most women. For some women the taller the better but she’s satisfied with under 6ft if he has other things going for himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:59 PM
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I don’t understand what this has to do with anything I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:49 PM
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Yeah you’re definitely on something, not worth entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:46 PM
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That’s not necessarily a bad thing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 11:46 AM
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I don’t think that’s a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 11:46 AM
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If that’s what helps you sleep at night
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 09:27 AM
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Yes women want to have sex with men they’re attracted to. Surprise Surprise
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:00 PM
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American women aren’t changing, just date women from somewhere else that fit your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:24 PM
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Idk ask the men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 04:46 PM
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Possess traits that make you stand out and partake in activities that are exciting, interesting or inspiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 04:40 PM
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The orgasm gap doesn’t stop women from having relationships and sex with men. To a certain degree they enjoy if they keep doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 04:37 PM
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The 4B movement won’t work because women enjoy having sex and relationships with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:39 PM
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You’re either ugly or boring to the women you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 02:52 PM
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Too complex. Most of us aren’t thinking that hard because it’s unnecessary. Is the person attractive? Yes? We have sex. It’s really simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 02:29 PM
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I think they overcomplicate it because then it justifies why they’re struggling so much to get sex or get the amount of sex they desire. It’s very weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 02:24 PM
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Honestly I think it’s better for him to just leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 01:23 PM
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The 4B movement is not happening here anyway. It’s just the small demographic of very weird men & women with the loudest voices who focuses on this topic because they’re already miserable and they’re trying to make everyone around them miserable. The rest of us that actually have healthy/decent relations with the opposite sex don’t even see any potential change happening amongst the sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:43 PM
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It’s well known that women have high standards. You guys just keep changing the narrative depending on the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:03 AM
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Bruh none of this is happening in reality and if you stay in women spaces, they actually been saying stuff like this since forever. Also I thought women standards were too high before, and women needed to lower them now you’re saying women are now having standards. Furthermore hasn’t sex decreased in the past couple years? So which is it? Are we picking and choosing?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:53 PM
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I think men should be able to marry who they want, as long as it’s not exploitative. Holding them here hostage is not a good idea and it’s no different than when women were basically forced to be with a man to live a decent life. Ppl shouldn’t be restricted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:55 PM
2

Women like sex with attractive men. That will forever happen until the end of time no matter what goes on in society or in her personal life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:28 PM
2

Well hopefully the youth get what they desire now that they got the presidential outcome they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:41 PM
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Honestly I think ppl are free to have their beliefs as long as they’re respectful. I’ve never met any radical extreme leftist or conservative. The men I meet usually are very rational with their beliefs and still have respect for women. That’s all I need.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:24 PM
5

That’s very interesting and very creepy. Sounds like a great plot for a netflix series
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:56 AM
5

Omg lmaooo why the name of your town is lowkey cute. I’m in nyc 🗽
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:29 AM
1

Yeah I live in a large city of 8 million ppl. I’m pretty comfortable with the way things are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:19 AM
5

I wasn’t looking for anything to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 11:56 PM
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As a black woman that lives in a very large liberal city absolutely nothing changes for me and the outcome of the election is not surprising to us anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:44 PM
2

In my experience creepy guys can’t read the room, are awkward and push way too hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:14 PM
6

You can learn competency, it’s just means having skills knowledge and the ability to do something. You just need a basic level of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 02:25 PM
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I think women want someone that’s competent. You don’t necessarily need a degree for that but it does show a level of competency. Me personally idc if you have a degree or not, just as long as you have a high school diploma or GED and you have a basic level of competency.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 02:11 PM
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I think for ppl to decide if standards are reasonable or not they need to first decide if attraction and sexual desire is something that’s important in establishing a relationship. A lot of women standards are based on what they are genuinely attracted to and modern men want to be sexually desired. It’s easier to lower standards or make standards more “reasonable” when you take sexual desire off the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:27 PM
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When did I say women don’t date average men anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 05:00 PM
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This all sounds like a lot of cope sir. Your reply also doesn’t help.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 03:29 PM
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Lol there’s no loophole. Women just date men they’re attracted to and either cut their losses when finding out they’re not compatible or continue to deal with them. It’s really simple. Surprise! women want to have sex with attractive men lol. I think it’s neurotic that men think of these long thesis’s of how women date but can’t solve their own dating issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 03:15 PM
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Be reincarnated
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 07:31 PM
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I think you should casually date. Then if you happed to run into someone who’s worth the investment then you can move forward
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 05:45 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 05:08 PM
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I personally don’t mind. In my experience the most common thing is to buy a drink. Sometimes they’ll send the bartender and the bartender will tell me who bought the drink. As a courtesy I’ll go up to the guy and thank him so that’ll start a conversation. Sometimes A guy will sit next to me and start chatting or offer to buy me a drink. If you’re on the dance floor, men will just start dancing with you and after that they’ll start a conversation with you. You can’t really be shy or awkward in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 04:22 PM
2

I would just stay single. As a woman with no kids I value excitement & height in men a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 04:16 PM
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He’s a person who seems nice and has a base line of respect and kindness for others. A good man for me personally would be Genuine, respectful, caring, ambitious, charismatic, charming, exciting, funny, confident but I’m aware men like this barely exists especially adding in cute, tall and makes a great living. No they wouldn’t change, I would just stay single Most men I meet usually meet about half or less of the traits I would like in a man. I found some of them attractive depending on the tra…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 03:39 PM
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I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it and I completely understand. I hope be finds peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:16 PM
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Does anyone outside of this sub even know about these tiers? Dating is nuanced and the tiers are pointless. Just seems like another way to make ppl more miserable. Just go out relax and meet ppl.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 04:53 PM
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I don’t understand the point of these tiers and placing yourself in one. Especially since it’s not like most ppl on the dating market who actually date know about these tiers. It seems kind of neurotic and a sure way to make yourself even more miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 04:04 PM
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If you’re ugly, just show off your money and exciting lifestyle. If you’re ugly and boring then maybe dating apps aren’t for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 03:40 PM
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Nope, the interview style date is odd and would of turned me off immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:57 PM
0

Yes money is perfect to make up for ugliness and boring hobbies
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:41 PM
2

High value men have a lot of things women want. They have a little bit (or a lot) of everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:40 PM
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You’re right I always say you can’t have multiple struggles. You have to pick a struggle if you want to date. You can’t be ugly and have boring hobbies. You have to make up for the ugliness. Just like you can’t be ugly and broke. There needs to be a reason someone likes you and wants to be around you. If you have nothing nobody wants then you can’t date, it’s simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:32 PM
2

Men need either a little bit of everything or a lot of few things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:52 PM
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Men should do hobbies that they genuinely enjoy. The unfortunate truth is that some hobbies will attract women and some won’t that’s just what it is. In general you have to have something that attracts the opposite sex to you. The problem is men want women to be attracted to them (arguably) solely for their looks because that’s why they desire women. Unfortunately women’s attraction to men doesn’t work that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:18 PM
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Adam seems more exciting since he travels and always making plans. I Prefer him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 02:15 PM
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Yes humans can be studied and are studied. That’s not the point though. As stated in OP ppl don’t end up being friends and having relationships because they reduced each other to a science project. Also, the majority of ppl that socialize don’t do this. Suzy and Mark that’s going to the bar tonight doesn’t have a 5 page thesis about how to meet ppl. They just go and do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 08:09 PM
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There are men that think socializing and dating is fun because it is. Especially since nowadays you can do whatever you want in dating, spin plates, fwb, monogamy, get married whatever. It’s not because I have it easy per se but because you have a chance to meet new ppl from different walks of life and have a good time. Humans are social creatures so it’s something we’re born to do. Many guys unfortunately don’t know how to simply have a good time with people and too stuck in their own misery to…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:21 PM
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Can’t even Imagine being with someone who gives their money to web streamers. That’s not a past partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:36 PM
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Please don’t impose your dating life onto mine. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:21 PM
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You’re comfortable analyzing but are you comfortable socializing too?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:41 PM
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Yes I socialize the same with men no matter what they look like. I also approach men to socialize (in a social setting of course).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:52 PM
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The manosphere gets more odd each day.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:41 PM
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Like I said you guys know how to make socializing miserable for yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:38 PM
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It just shows how they view women. Don’t even see them as different beings with hopes dreams desires and emotions. Just an object that they need to study. If they just go out and actually socialize like humans are supposed to do they probably wouldn’t have to over analyze everything. Socializing & dating should be fun especially when you’re young, and a lot of these guys know how to make it miserable for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:09 PM
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I guess context is needed but When men have accomplishments they’re acknowledged regardless of what he looks like. Women don’t have that privilege. Women looks are always the topic of conversation even if she ended world hunger there will be countless articles about how she needs botox or to lose weight or she’s the gorgeous woman that ended world hunger, something related to what she looks like regardless if it’s a compliment or not. On a large scale there’s barely ppl harshly judging men looks…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 09:29 PM
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Unfortunately this is commonly talked about but I envy men Not having to worry about pregnancy. Kids are nice until you realize you have to be pregnant for 9 months and be the main parent for the early stages of their life. Pregnancy scares me. Also, I envy how men can look anywhere from super ugly to super handsome and they will always be treated with respect as long as it’s earned. If a woman is super ugly she’s harassed and if she’s beautiful, she’s still harassed. Women looks are always the …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:58 PM
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Women are delusional but average men that are overweight and balding making 50k deserve young beautiful women just because. The jokes write themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:55 PM
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Maybe you don’t want to acquire these characteristics because of your circumstances but that doesn’t change the fact that it can be acquired and or modified.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:08 PM
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Women also judge men’s Confidence Masculinity Status Charisma These can be acquired and/or changed at any point in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:27 AM
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You didn’t know? Women will move the globe for ChAd according to the guys here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:49 AM
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Not all ppl that are awkward are creeps but being awkward plus lacking self awareness would make someone creepy. Awkward ppl are very visible usually because of their body language so ppl who don’t know you are already weary of you. An example of creepiness is not giving someone personal space or constantly touching someone when they look uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:39 AM
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The jokes write themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:06 PM
3

How you hating from outside the club, you can’t even get in
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:59 PM
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I’ll be obsessed with you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:58 PM
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It’s always the wrong ppl/person obsessed with you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:44 PM
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Someone awkward who can’t understand social cues and boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:19 PM
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A lot of men don’t think it’s worth the investment especially with relationships being so fickle nowadays. Also, most ppl (men & women) move with the goal of wanting to get their needs met first and putting in as little as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 10:12 PM
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Most of these are not red flags. More like preferences. I don’t mind men under 6ft, Ideal for me is about 6’2” I don’t mind video games As long as it’s not a micro P As long as he can take care of himself, don’t care how much he makes If he’s purposely unemployed, that’s a red flag I don’t mind introverted. Extroverted is ideal for me Being inexperienced is fine as long as he’s not awkward or weird Virgin at 25 might be a red flag unless it’s for religious reasons. Love a man who’s willing to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 01:09 PM
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It’s basically dudes that’s hating from outside the club and they can’t get in.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 08:13 AM
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I assume the safe option is someone who’s not sexually attractive. If you have nothing to offer besides safety then it makes sense why you’re a safe option. Men want to be sexually desirable but have no sexual desirability. The same logic applies to women who men fuck zone because they only offer sex. I understand completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:42 AM
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Nothing. I don’t think most ppl believe this is a big enough issue to address outside of reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 06:46 PM
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Not any different than men downplaying men’s overall role in the poor dating market or putting the blame all on the mythical Chad guy. They don’t want an honest conversation neither, just want to be a victim. Women standards aren’t necessarily delusional, many men are just undesirable & unwanted. If you’re really that guy, she wouldn’t even care.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:30 PM
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Being stoic, direct, ambitious, protective & courageous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 01:55 AM
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Women have no incentive to support men if their own gender won’t even support them. Also you basically called most men awful human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 04:50 PM
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Masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 03:40 PM
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The same reason why men flash money, cars, jewelry, & expensive vacations then get upset when women want them for their money, cars, jewelry, expensive trips.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 11:11 PM
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I think ppl treat dating apps like social media so that’s probably why they upload group pics. It’s all very weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 09:22 PM
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I think it’s weird. I’ve seen men only upload group pics. How am I supposed to know which one is you? I personally think it’s unnecessary to show you have friends on a dating app. I just like clear photos of you that show your whole body and face.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 08:35 PM
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You have bars, the beach, the arcade, museums, yacht parties, brunch, roller skating rinks, food markets, Botanical garden, pottery class, concerts, comic/anime cons, go kart racing, barbecues, mini golf, books & art store (specialty stores always have events going on) . There’s endless places to meet anyone honestly. I think a lot ppl either live in a town where basically nothing happens (which this doesn’t apply to you) or they are very boring and don’t want to go out to social venues.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 07:38 PM
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The terrible pics thing is so true. I’ve seen super blurry pics, pics where guys hide their face, pics of men looking down, pics with multiple ppl in the photo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:36 PM
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This is so true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 03:57 PM
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Probably lack of effort would be the biggest red flag. If you’re putting in and she isn’t more than likely she’s stringing you along.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:50 PM
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Context is needed. Women usually have these type of responses because the guy approaches awkwardly or says something crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 04:15 PM
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At the end of the day we’re all shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 01:41 PM
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I wouldn’t feel offended. Like hey if you feel that way then do what you gotta do. Plus if there’s a lack of passion & excitement I wouldn’t see a reason to continue the relationship anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 09:06 AM
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There are ppl with low standards but they dont want those ppl. If you won’t lower your standards for the ppl that want you, why would you expect those with high standards to lower their standards for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:20 PM
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They only focus on it because it gives them something to blame for why they’re undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:53 PM
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I mean if you can change your social awkwardness, dating will get at least 5x better for you. Being socially awkward makes dating that’s already hard even harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:18 PM
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Not necessarily, I think many unattractive women know they’re unattractive so they just accept it and stay single. Many Unattractive men seem to think every man should be able to have a partner just because and that’s not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:49 PM
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If you say so bud
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:36 PM
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Yes if they’re ugly, nothing matters really.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:36 PM
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Are you saying that these men have personality traits that women find attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:53 PM
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You’re right, I always say the world will keep spinning regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:28 PM
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Unattractive men can’t do anything with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:26 PM
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The point is They’re attractive, it has nothing to do with them being a criminal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:24 PM
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It’s always so crazy how a lot of unattractive guys claim they can’t even approach women because they’re facially challenged or just overall unattractive but seem to think they can get away with treating women like shit or be a bad boy and all of sudden women will be all over them like butter on bread. I tell them to rob a bank, get a couple of federal warrants, maybe slap a woman on the street and see what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:13 PM
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Haha that is so true 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 03:08 PM
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You’re absolutely right.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 03:08 PM
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I can understand adding an inch to yourself lol. 6’2 I would say is good enough for me, 6’4”+ is a tad bit too tall but I’m not 100% against it. I have 2 friends one that’s 6’3” and another 6”5 so i have an idea of what those heights look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 03:07 PM
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You got guys that are 6’3” lying about their height, so that bar is gonna go up soon lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 03:03 PM
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6’7”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 03:01 PM
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I definitely understand if you’re like 5’8” but this guy was already tall lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 03:00 PM
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I know but when you experience it first hand it’s like wow. Mind you this guy already like 6’3”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:58 PM
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I didn’t realize there would be men that would lie about their height. I understand though. Edit: I think it’s unnecessary when you’re already tall. This guy was already like 6’3” but said he was 6’7”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:54 PM
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I only see men called incel on reddit and sometimes twitter in niche communities. It’s definitely not a popular insult. It’s also used when men are using their manosphere points as to why they’re struggling. I see way more and more support for men struggles especially if they have valid good faith complaints.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:21 PM
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Men can blame their looks, they currently do it now. Especially when it comes to height since most men are under 6ft. Honestly now since the pop the balloon shows are going viral, you literally see women turning down men for height, looks, clothes etc. Those women get dragged to the ends of the earth because men should be given a chance despite his looks. I’m beginning to see more support for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:21 AM
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Is my husband 6’4”+ cute, with a high status job, 6+inch dick, buys me anything I want, and a full head of hair?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:28 AM
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Is my husband 6’3”+, cute, with a high status job, 6 inch+ dick, and buys me anything I want?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 01:59 AM
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Is my husband 6’2”+, cute and with a high status job?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 01:32 AM
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Is my husband 6ft+ and cute?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 10:05 PM
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Dating is all about feeling someone out to see if they’re a good match. Emotions & feelings don’t care if you’re a catch or not. Also, you may view yourself as a catch but does she feel that way? Either way you shouldn’t beat yourself up because it happens with everyone. Just move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:24 PM
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I need both for long term. I think choosing one or the other eventually the relationship will fall apart
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 02:21 PM
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The gym won’t fix everything but it’s better than being ugly and having an ugly body.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 01:47 PM
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Oh is that so? Oh well
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 01:20 AM
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HA! That’s hilarious. Just let the women chase the attractive men. The world will keep spinning.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 12:01 AM
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And after you show women how shallow they are, what happens next?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 10:35 PM
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Let them be shallow that’s their business. Men are allowed to be shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:00 PM
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Women understand stats they just don’t care because being single is always an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:30 PM
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Just more tainted ppl and their unnecessary baited opinions. This is how they get you. Ignore them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 03:16 PM
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They care because it allows a lot of unloved men to shift blame to women as to why they’re unloved and unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:09 PM
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These are the same guys complaining because women settled for them and there’s a dead bedroom right around the corner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 04:35 PM
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Hey we just it accept it man. That’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 01:52 PM
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But will she actually like this man and love him long term ? Remember she had to lower her standards for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 01:45 PM
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Yes let me pair off with a man I don’t even like and grow to resent because I need him for retirement. I’ll make sure to mention that’s the only reason I’m dating him and see how far that gets me. I think a lot of us rather be broke & die than be with a man we had to lower my standards for. That’s the point. We’re not saying we don’t want a man, we don’t want a man who doesn’t meet the standards. Relationships involve sex and our lives are intertwined. Being with just any man is awful from a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 01:43 PM
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Women do not benefit from lowering their standards. Lowering standards mostly benefits men. Why would women lower their standards when they could just be single?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 10:34 AM
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If you’re broke, at least be cute. You can’t be broke and ugly, pick a struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 09:41 AM
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Many don’t deserve empathy because of their long entitled rants about how women are ugly whores who are used up after 30 and every attractive man is a 5x federal warrant asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 10:29 PM
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It’s a way to cope with not being picked as well as being unattractive to the women they desperately want validation from. “These women are shallow whores” And they don’t even know you exist Jimmy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 02:20 PM
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If he’s paying for everything, I wouldn’t even care what he did with other women. With a certain caliber man that’s expected anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 02:07 PM
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No one is forcing men to approach so they can stop and say “fuck you” whenever.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:29 AM
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At the end of the day the ones that get it will move forward and the ones that don’t will just be left behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:25 PM
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I don’t think it’s because you’re a man. But you have to self assess to understand why you’re always alone. Are you fun to be around? Do you know how to make conversation? How do people react (body language) when engaging with you? Do you invite ppl to do activities with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 05:27 PM
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I wasn’t aware of this since it’s not my personal experience. I would bet money that the reason most young men do not approach is because they’re socially awkward and lack self awareness which leads them to act very weird around women. Not because they’re ashamed of their sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 03:18 PM
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Because the point is there’s no problem with the advice. It’s with YOU 🫵🏾😂 But women are blamed because these men are struggling, miserable and resentful. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 06:34 PM
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Honestly no one cares to be genuine and help anymore because you get posts like these. The ones that are successful will continue to mate and those who struggle will be left behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 06:29 PM
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I think they’re a lost cause because of their mindset. You can be fixed but there’s no amount of advice that soothes these poor men souls until they change their pathetic mindset, so in that case yes there’s no helping you. My overall point is that women shouldn’t be blamed because you’re pathetic in dating. The advice isn’t bad, you’re just a lost cause, but yet women are once against being blamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 06:25 PM
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What differentiates bad advice and good advice if it’s possible good advice can lead to being unsuccessful.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 06:15 PM
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I personally think there isn’t much that can help these struggling men, not even if god himself gave them advice. Many of them are a lost cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:45 PM
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Maybe struggling men are the ones who need to be fixed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:26 PM
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So this argument can be applied to men as well. Women shouldn’t be singled out for bad advice. Also, if that’s the case why are they still struggling?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:24 PM
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It’s the equivalent of telling a struggling man to give flowers to a girl he likes. That doesn’t benefit him and it probably won’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:35 PM
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Tbh I don’t think this is a case of bad advice, this is a case of there’s not much that can help these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:33 PM
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There’s clearly a disconnect because all men know the struggle and men supposedly give better advice than women so why are some guys struggling still?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:11 PM
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This is true 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 12:57 PM
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I thought successful men don’t know the struggle because they never had to struggle? I’ve had men tell me that. Now you’re saying the opposite. How exactly do successful men know the struggle of a man who’s unattractive & can’t get a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 12:53 PM
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So who exactly is qualified to give struggling men advice? It seems like these men are picky with who can give them advice that’ll satisfy them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 12:42 PM
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Does it not also depend for women too or is all women advice terrible?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 12:13 PM
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Wouldn’t advice from a man who’s good with women also come from a place of ignorant privilege? Unless you plan to get advice from men in the same position as you, which would defeat the purpose anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 11:59 AM
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I would define toxic as being very harmful or consistently unpleasant
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 01:18 AM
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And almost half of women homicides are from men who she used to be involved with or is currently involved with 🤷🏾‍♀️. The point is toxic people exist everywhere. If you only attract toxic women in your home country, I think that you’re most likely toxic too. People that’s the most toxic always claim everyone or most ppl around them are toxic & they’re magically the exception. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 11:56 PM
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American Women now prioritize themselves. That’s really the basis of how women date. This causes clash (which is what men probably see as toxic) because men also date this way, the only difference is men always dated this way. This isn’t really a toxic American woman thing. This is a toxic ppl thing. Men are out here killing or physically abusing women for being rejected but using that as a basis to judge all men or American men would be wrong even though this post does the same for women. Peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 11:26 PM
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Men should do what’s best for them, the same way women prioritize themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 11:56 AM
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Nope, we learned this in school if you missed that boat you’re on your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 11:54 AM
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It feels good sometimes. They usually compliment you a lot, sometimes they buy you things. You can tell they just enjoy being in your presence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 10:20 PM
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We love to see it ✨
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 04:21 PM
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You did not say that. A diligent hard worker who is kind and loyal does not automatically mean he’s charming, charismatic funny and useful. I would guarantee the guy you’re playing second fiddle to is masculine, charming, funny etc and probably whines less and of course not boring. Of course he gets the panties wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 03:22 PM
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You can be charming, charismatic, useful & funny. These are traits that women find attractive and they don’t require money.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 01:31 PM
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You can always be more than just your money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 11:30 PM
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I always thought it was insane to play the long game, just go meet someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 11:22 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 11:21 PM
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There’s less of a safety risk when meeting women. Men are shamed much less for being single and playing the field/having multiple partners, I mean it’s a running joke that men have a 2nd family on the other side of town. Women will never be allowed that grace. I personally think men are judged less for being shallow. It’s ok for men to want a beautiful sexy cute woman who just looks pretty to him. We all know Most men will never entertain a woman who he believes is ugly. Women can’t want a good …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 11:07 PM
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You were unattractive and now you’re attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:59 PM
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Money isn’t always everything. Solely based on looks, a lot of billionaire men are average looking or just ugly. No hot woman wants to wake up next to Mark Zukerberg longer than 6 months. He looks like an alien. If you want a hot woman for long term, you being hot will get you farther than having money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 07:17 PM
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😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 06:05 PM
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If I had to guess, Like 2% of men are against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:47 PM
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Maybe the struggling men can go after a homeless woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:23 PM
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I have never hooked up with anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:17 PM
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Yes I would. There was this guy at my gym who was about that height (I’m 5’6”) and he was soooooooo attractive. He had a girl but my god he was smooth, charismatic, charming, confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:48 PM
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We’d have to go out together so I can see how he talks to women. I’d bet money it’s how he talks to women, then we can go from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:51 AM
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My comment implies that women want to be with a man by choice that she likes. Really simple. If she has no choice that means she’s forced to be with a man she doesn’t like and eventually resents, that’s why she doesn’t want to breathe near him. Whether you interpret that as hating all men is a you problem. Most women in relationships right now are with those men by choice. That’s all we want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:09 PM
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😂😂😂😂Women just want to be in a relationship with a man that she actually likes and is attracted to. Idk why this is such a big deal. Men want the exact same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:55 PM
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YAWNNNN You’re just Another SOCIETAL COLLAPSE POSTER who wants to roll back time to where women didn’t have a choice and dedicate their life to being with a mediocre pathetic man she doesn’t even like. It’s all smoke and mirrors anyway, you guys don’t actually care about society you just care that men are lonely and horny and women don’t want to be a maid sex slave for men who offer nothing substantial. Cope is waking up to a someone you don’t even want to breathe near and convincing yourself it…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:14 PM
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Ok so women will stay single, landlords will keep their apartments unoccupied and companies will hire no one, THATS THEIR CHOICE which is also an option. Clearly they don’t like them enough if they’re being ignored. It’s not self sabotage, ppl just overestimate themselves and being without is better than being with/having someone mediocre 🤷🏾‍♀️ that’s why companies, landlords and women move exactly how they’re moving in modern society. No one cares what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:03 PM
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Why should Landlords, Companies, and Women not wait for their best option? They don’t benefit from choosing someone that’s not their best option. That’s why landlords rather keep their apartments empty, companies rather not hire someone and women rather be single. Is it fair ? Nope but that’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:48 PM
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I mean if we’re assuming she settled then it’s easy to assume he settled. Simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:38 PM
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Thank you so much for this
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:23 PM
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Yayyyyyy 🫶🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:22 PM
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You’re right, it can be a hard pill to swallow
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:21 PM
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It such an insult to average men, and I thought struggling men would be the biggest advocates for average men but all they do is tear them down. How is that any different than what they accuse women of doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:21 PM
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I think i know exactly what photo you’re talking about 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:14 PM
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An ok looking face, no abnormalities, nothing on the face stands out (like perfect cheekbones or having a very droopy face). Maybe plain faced might be the wrong word
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:10 PM
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I acknowledge dating is terrible but that’s for everyone. I’m referring to men at least 25 years old because by then you’ve had enough time to settle into adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:07 PM
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Yeah I’ve seen men who’ve never had a girlfriend 25+ describe themselves as average The average man is married lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:04 PM
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I like to think I’m relatively average but I’m not overweight so idk
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:02 PM
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Maybe you should do that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:01 PM
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I can describe one for you, I don’t have a pic. 5’10”, overweight, relatively social, plain face, is married or has a girl friend, makes about 50k-60k, has a small social circle (2-4 friends).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:01 PM
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I mean he settled too
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:58 PM
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There are just certain traits about men that are objectively above average. Doesn’t necessarily have to do with being a hive mind. If I said Henry Cavill was above average and another woman said he was below average, men would seethe and never stop complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:58 PM
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Maybe for you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:54 PM
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Yeah average looking men are not ugly they’re just not cute either. Women call it “okay” looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:53 PM
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The average man is married though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:52 PM
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5’10”, overweight, relatively social, plain face, is married or has a girl friend, makes about 50k-60k, has a small social circle (2-4 friends).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:52 PM
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You’re not wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:49 PM
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Trust me we know what guys are way above average. We also know what guys are below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:48 PM
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What is that fate exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:44 PM
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Probably can’t get all her needs met in one man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:39 PM
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Do you think you’ll move eventually?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:38 PM
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It’s a shame how some guys describe the average man. Conflating average men and below average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:34 PM
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That would be anecdotal because in my experience it’s the opposite. It would be unfair to judge all women based on your personal experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:10 PM
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I definitely can see why you say that. It just doesn’t make sense to me, it just screams insecurity and misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:09 PM
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And there are women that will give wonderful advice. You could just ignore the women giving bad advice, it’s not hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:47 PM
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I think they give great advice in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:42 PM
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You don’t need to justify going after young women just do it. It’s like women making 10 posts about why men that are 6’4 are better than men 5’10. Just go after what you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:30 PM
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Anyone struggling just needs to go a place where ppl are socializing. The choice of venue doesn’t matter just as long as men and women are mingling. Dating revolves entirely around being social.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:26 PM
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There’s always going to be toxic ppl, that’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:53 PM
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I think this just explains toxic relationships between some women but it doesn’t represent all women relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:41 PM
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I think there’s no hope for struggling men. They’re not satisfied with any advice given but constantly complaining about being alone. Doesn’t make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:40 PM
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You’re right, there’s absolutely no problem & again my solution is to stop complaining 😊 I don’t really care if they accept that or not, the world still spins.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:19 AM
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Lol based on what criteria
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:01 AM
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What solution do you suggest? I would love to hear it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:49 AM
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Your personal experience just reflects you not average men. You may not even be average, a lot of guys here love claiming they’re average and they’re really way below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:13 AM
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Maybe stop complaining, that’s apart of accepting being single and they’re definitely told that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:42 PM
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Is that statement based on anything substantial outside of your personal experience
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:32 PM
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The reason why doesn’t matter because it’s not justified regardless of the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 07:26 PM
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Either accept your terrible option or be single. No one has sympathy for these men who complain later since they’re so desperate that they’ll take anyone with a pulse. You made your bed now lay in it. Also, You guys really love to insult the average man. The average man is not some desperate guy with 1 terrible option & in 5 years he’ll meet another terrible option. That’s below average men and social rejects.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 05:13 PM
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Basically If she shows red flags move on. You choosing to deal with someone toxic because you lack options doesn’t justify being with someone you know is bad for you. Everyone is told to vet better whether you have 1000 options or 1 option. No one is excluded from this criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 05:00 PM
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I think you should ask the guy above me that since he wants the playing field “leveled”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:30 PM
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Sounds like something men need to get up and advocate for.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:49 PM
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So go after average women, they make average money which is lower than what average men make.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:30 PM
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Is this a confession that men can’t do well in dating unless women are hindered financially? If so I’m glad that women have the same opportunities that men always had. For the most part this is only an issue if you’re unattractive because then you have no choice but to rely on your wallet to get a woman. This sounds like a personal problem. In modern society both men and women can now get together without having to need each other to survive and that’s more ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:24 PM
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It’s basically over for some men, due to multiple factors that range from how they look to how they act. There’s no advice on this planet that can help those guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 11:45 PM
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At least you’re honest with yourself and know what works for you. I admire that in men. I definitely wish the best for you in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 10:38 PM
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I Still prefer west because I mean the west is home and I’d be more comfortable dating where I’m from.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 09:14 PM
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Awww I wouldn’t do that because I would just straight up ask if you’re gay or not, I don’t need to imply anything. Plus why would I insult gay men like that? They’re not odd like the men obsessed with chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 08:47 PM
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There’s not enough advice in the world to help some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 04:41 PM
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The west. I can imagine the standards are even more strict in Asia because of heavy family influence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 08:55 AM
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I know that lmaooo. That’s why the rate of singles are increasing. No one wants to be settled for. Just play the field and have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:30 PM
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Happy Singles Day ! What’s your favorite thing about being single?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:19 PM
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Idk beggars can’t be choosers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:36 PM
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Not to the point where you can’t just live life because chad exists and is better than you. Men observe this chad guy then seethe because they can’t be him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:14 PM
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Of course we love a good looking attractive man. That’s what gets the panties wet. Idk why men are obsessed with another man though. Its weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:06 PM
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I noticed this too, they’re lost causes that’s obsessed with Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 03:32 PM
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You should just do what’s best for you and what works for you. If that happens to be approaching women on the street then go for it. You don’t have to take the advice that ppl who don’t even know you give. This is why it’s always recommended to get advice from friends & family.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 03:26 PM
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Leave the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:26 AM
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It’s absolutely no ones fault if you’re unsuccessful in dating. The reality is in dating you only have control over your own actions so you have to keep changing things up to see what works if you desire the outcome of having someone interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 12:12 PM
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To be honest, dating is effort and If you’re juggling multiple men it gets tiring after a while. It’s much easier to focus on one man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 11:49 PM
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Omg you mean you have to be sexually attractive to date ? Who would of thought
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 01:51 PM
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I know that lmao, it’s really all bullshit but I’m playing along.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 01:14 PM
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What I think doesn’t matter. The point is men believe you have to be a bad boy to be sexually attractive. There’s men’s answer to the modern dating game so why aren’t these men that’s so desperately struggling out here robbing the bank ? Where’s the federal warrants? Why are we even here if we all know the answer? Hmmmmmmm something isn’t adding up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 01:09 PM
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I understood you very well, but you’re just talking. Where’s the action? This sub and every other dating sub should be shut down immediately and men should be out there becoming bad boys because that’ll make them sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:33 PM
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So if we know the answer then why are we even here? Y’all should be selling drugs. Like I’m waiting. Tired of these lack of criminals
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:28 PM
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I’m still waiting for all the men in this sub and in general to start abusing women and breaking the law so they can start getting the sexual attention they claim men get because they’re bad. Women need more sexually attractive men, we’re tired of swiping left.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:20 PM
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In real life
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:06 PM
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And your proof of this is where? Please stop making average men look so pathetic especially when you’re probably below average. This seems to be a trend in this sub. Paid sex exists as an option, it’s apart of making the best of what you have to work with. You don’t have to like it but that’s not the point now is it? Most ppl that are single most likely don’t want to be but they’re doing what they can with what they got and that’s my whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:00 PM
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We live in one of the easiest times to have sex. Maybe the low value ugly awkward men are not having sex but that’s not all single men. Plus you can always pay for it, you gotta do what you gotta do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 10:44 AM
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Men’s nonconformities are not taken seriously because most men don’t even care. If men want their nonconformities to be seen as problems for society then they have to begin a movement. We already know that’s not going to happen. Whether it’s hard or not the option still exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 11:58 PM
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Nobody’s talking about Ukraine 😒. Op is clearly referring to the western society since he mentioned the western world in his post. In the western world you can do whatever you want for the most part, you personally just choose not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 11:43 PM
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I wouldn’t care if you did sir. The point is op wasn’t even talking about Ukraine and that’s not what this argument is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 11:21 PM
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Your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 11:10 PM
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Are you in Ukraine right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 10:19 PM
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And if I don’t what happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 10:18 PM
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I’m definitely aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 08:23 PM
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Sounds like they’re checking out part time. It seems like the definition of “checking out” changes depending on the argument that’s trying to be made. For me and I’m sure plenty others when I hear “check out” that means you don’t care what happens and whatever happens, happens. But if I had to guess is some men want to make it look like they’ll check out. It’s basically a threat, but no one really cares about the men threatening to check out. They want ppl to care which is why they keep threaten…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:43 PM
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So do men want to check out of society or not? They keep flip flopping. If you’re checking out then what society does after you check out is irrelevant because that’s the whole point of checking out. If you’re not checking out then this whole post is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:20 PM
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Lmao It’s barely a threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:18 PM
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Again no one is forcing you, if you decide to live your life on societal pressures that’s your own business but the point is no one is forcing you to. In modern western society, societal pressures barely exist, especially in larger cities. If you want to live a certain way and the environment you’re in doesn’t embrace that, it’s up to you to change your environment. You can always change social circles & change locations. Don’t want to be a “real man” then don’t. There’s plenty of men that don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:12 PM
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Yes. Move accordingly as in Do what’s best for you & your family like everyone else does.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:01 PM
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You only have control over you and your family. Ppl are going to what’s best for them and it’s been that way for some time now, so you should move accordingly. You can’t force them to do what you want them to do just like they can’t force you to do what they want you to do. That’s just what it is. Focusing on things you have no control over is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:29 PM
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But why do you care ? Isn’t the whole point of dropping out that you don’t care what happens to society? Let society fall, that’s not men’s problem anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:11 PM
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I don’t understand why some men act like they can’t do what they want. No one is forcing men to get married, have children, get a girlfriend etc. You can be a free agent until the day you die and no one will care. Don’t want to sacrifice yourself for women and society? Then don’t. Life is short and you should do what makes you happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:11 PM
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Welp I guess single men will just continue to suffer. Oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:38 PM
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And you’re free to think that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:33 PM
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Single men have to find things that bring them small ounces of joy in their lives. Making the most of it is just taking advantage of what you have the ability to do. Want attention from women? Go to the strip club, it’s better than nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:18 PM
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I would say a poor option is an option that lacks what you find important in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:12 PM
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I don’t think single women are happiest but they just make the best of being single because their other options are poor. Men should just make the most of being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:26 PM
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Let me see if I got this right, are you saying broke good men turn into creeps because women don’t want them due to being broke? Why would he turn into a creep if he’s a supposedly good man?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 09:13 AM
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Even if I did know the answer It wouldn’t make me feel bad because I have no shame in admitting that women like certain men and most men don’t fit that profile. That’s just what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:34 AM
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I don’t know the answer so I’m not going to act like I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:29 AM
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Idk ask them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:18 AM
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Close your ears then.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:17 AM
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Women always settled even back in the day. Nothing new.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:14 AM
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I think this is a way for unwanted men to cope. “Every woman that doesn’t want me is terrible so the men they choose are just as terrible”. They want to believe there’s nothing wrong with them and something wrong with everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:13 AM
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Just confirmation bias. The woman you want/pay attention, want the superficial qualities while stating otherwise. Just like when women complain that men only want women with the BBL, Instagram baddies, gold diggers etc when in reality the men they want, want those women. No one pays attention to the normal boring nice dude who has a normal boring nice girlfriend. Women want a good looking man who is nice, with a great personality, tall and charming. This is like a 1% man so we have to make do wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:10 AM
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Just a lot of compliments about my appearance, then he offered to buy me some food, and offered to be my friend. I appreciated the food he offered to buy me and the compliments.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 09:02 PM
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You’re better off asking your friends/family for that kind of advice. I can’t really tell you exactly what to say since I’m not a man. When it comes to dating, most ppl learn by trial and error.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 08:53 PM
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Ppl IRL don’t do it because it’s weird lol, that’s such an odd expectation. But Thank you for the clarification on what advice these guys are expecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 08:42 PM
0

Women like men that are useful, if you can’t be good looking the least you can do is be useful. An ideal man would be useful and good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 08:29 PM
2

Say what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 08:08 PM
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If you’re expecting someone on the internet to give the exact words they say to women, then maybe you should ask your friends and ppl that know you in real life. It’s weird and most ppl on the internet would think you’re crazy. I don’t think the advice is bad, the person is just sooooo low value, that nothing really can help them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 08:02 PM
1

No one on the internet is going to give you a disclaimer because it’s common sense. Advice is never guaranteed to work. That’s one’s own ignorance for believing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 07:44 PM
1

Tbh I don’t think a lot of men want to know that which is fair because like you said it does hurt but at some point you have to come to terms with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 03:00 PM
1

So at that point you have to accept that. You can’t improve anymore and you can’t get anyone to like you. That’s just what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 02:40 PM
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When I see a good looking body I admire because it’s nice. It’s that simple. Sometimes the men will make eye contact with me and depending on his face maybe I’ll entertain him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 02:20 PM
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Women complain but don’t get upset about the advice they’re offered. That doesn’t seem to be the case with men according to OP. I mean there’s really no other advice to give besides self improvement or don’t date. It just doesn’t make sense, you want someone to like you but don’t want to do what’s necessary to get them to like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 02:05 PM
2

Understandable
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 01:58 PM
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You don’t have to do anything you don’t want to. Dating is optional. I don’t understand What advice are men that complain about dating expecting? You can’t force someone else to like you and if you’re unattractive self improvement is all you can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 11:39 AM
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Men not approaching is really not as wide-scale as ppl make it out to be. It’s really only the men who always struggle with dating, low value and/or ugly that are not approaching women or who’ve stopped. No one was really expecting these type of men to approach anyway. The women complaining about approaching are just using vulnerable men to increase their views, I would bet money that they have men approaching, especially if they live in a large city.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 08:11 PM
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Rob a bank, sell some drugs, maybe start a fight in a bar, try and get a federal warrant under your belt.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:38 PM
1

I don’t think it’s that black and white. I’m in NYC which is very liberal and there’s plenty of femi-nazi’s here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:18 PM
1

You’re right
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:25 PM
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Exactly, you just have to be social, not a weirdo and get out of the house. Most ppl as long as you approach them respectfully, they’ll respond to you respectfully. The women online complaining are just baiting the men that are struggling to date because they’re such an easy target.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 02:56 PM
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Yes, usually you can tell by the tone of his voice, how he’s looking at you, if he compliments you multiple times in a short amount of time, being overly nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 01:36 PM
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I think it would be awkward but nonetheless I’ll do my best to make him feel comfortable even if I don’t feel the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 11:42 AM
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I don’t think this reflects in reality. In my city me and my friends get approached almost daily. It’s normal for men (and sometimes women) to approach women on the street, subway, bus, gym, supermarket etc. I go to bars, restaurants, parties, the park and see men approaching women all the time. I don’t think this is as widespread as ppl make it seem and I would guarantee it’s a small number of women that are complaining and small number of men who don’t want to approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 10:41 AM
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I believe men need a different approach when it comes to mental health issues. I don’t think it’s always the case that men are reluctant and that’s why it’s not taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 01:45 AM
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Is that so
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 01:39 AM
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I think the advantages are definitely being stronger on average, no periods, no pregnancy, being able to pee anywhere, you can make up for your looks in the dating world with money, charm and resources. The disadvantages are most ppl don’t take men’s mental health seriously. I don’t think I would have it easier per se but I think it would be more fun to be a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:30 PM
3

I would tell him to go rob a bank and become a bad boy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:04 PM
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Those are the most fun times to date because relationships aren’t that detrimental in your life compared to relationships as an adult. I do think it’s important to date young because it helps create the stepping stone you’ll need once you become an adult. The only ppl that didn’t date when I was in school was the anti social ppl which makes sense anyway. Even though teenagers date based on looks, Most ppl in general look good to someone. If you don’t then you’re most likely below average and you…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:18 PM
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It’s easy to leave when there’s no connection or compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:19 PM
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Even if this was the case, all you have to do is find someone who wants to be monogamous which is not hard for normal average ppl. Most ppl still want a monogamous relationship and most ppl are finding them. This sharing thing is not as wide scale as ppl think.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:15 PM
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You’re absolutely right. At the end of the day ppl are allowed to want whatever their heart desires. If that leads them to being alone, that’s their own problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:59 PM
1

Trust me I’m missing a lot more complaints if we’re talking about an almost perfect man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:26 PM
2

Cool to know
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:54 PM
2

Ooh ok sounds like a man problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 05:22 PM
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The thing is, she doesn’t even need to bang alpha men to understand when a man is mediocre.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:09 AM
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Not every woman has these high standards for a perfect man. Many are ok with a regular flawed man and that’s exactly what they got.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:06 AM
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He’d have to develop some above average qualities. I would tell him to work on his charm, charisma, intelligence & build. Also, begin networking and put yourself out there heavily.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:32 PM
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Seems like every other bakery that opens up in my city is selling penis shaped cakes. At 1st it was funny but now it’s getting old.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:27 PM
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This is why I don’t understand why men advocate so heavily for women lowering their standards. I can guarantee that you will not get the validation that you crave with a woman who lowers her standards for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:49 PM
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I don’t find dating hard personally since I just use it to keep myself entertained but the complaints I see from women are Enough men aren’t attractive so the pool is small. There’s a lack of effort whether in the dating stage or in the relationship stage. Many liars and deceivers. A lot of men can’t take no for an answer and can get aggressive. Very Boring Very Useless Very Disappointing I’m probably missing some but that’s off the top of my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 03:37 PM
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And if that’s true the only ppl it hurts is women so men can stop complaining and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 10:58 PM
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Who are you to tell them their expectations are too high though and what do they get out of lowering their expectations? The whole reason for being with someone is to expect something from them, why would I be content with someone I expect nothing or very little from? I could just be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 10:18 PM
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I don’t think women care enough to intentionally lie to men. They’re not thinking that hard about it and it’s nowhere near that deep. Women knows what she likes when she sees it and the man she wants knows what women desire. The only men that believe women are lying, trying to deceive them, omitting the truth etc are the unwanted and undesirables.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:53 PM
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Exactly you can’t be unattractive and shy, pick a struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:05 PM
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This is just another women need to lower their expectations for men but at the same time want women to enjoy being with the man you lowered your expectations for. Doesn’t make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:38 PM
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The answer is obvious, they want a girlfriend. The problem is a girlfriend has to willingly want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:00 PM
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Women are arguably mediocre too but I think men are probably more comfortable being with a mediocre woman. I don’t think women are as comfortable being with a mediocre man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:58 AM
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Yes, that’s why I chuckle. In their bio, they put more emphasis on their height. It’ll say something like “6’5” tall king looking for his short queen”. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:00 PM
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I always chuckle when men put their height in their bio, lol I don’t blame them at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:53 PM
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I really wish those that believe that becoming a bad boy or criminal would attract women would just rob a bank already.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:04 PM
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Make a lot of money
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:49 PM
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I mean you’re the one that asked. Lol like I’m not the one that needs answers about the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:44 PM
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You can always move around if you don’t like the answer
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:36 PM
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Probably because as far as I know being awkward and shy doesn’t diminish a woman’s attraction. Concerning the pay gap, I can’t answer that for you because idk. Usually the women I see argue pay gap are the more ambitious type of woman, so they’re not shy and awkward. Being the selector has its benefits. I don’t think women resent men for having benefits. I think because men benefitted for so long when women couldn’t exercise their sexuality to the fullest extent women now feel they should have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:12 PM
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I agree, men have to be masculine confident and stoic. It’s completely understandable why men such as yourself just don’t want to try anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:17 AM
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That’s understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:02 AM
1

Omg no I’m ugly 😢
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:30 AM
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I think everyone should tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:22 AM
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I thought men already did this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:49 AM
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And to add another point women are not men. For some reason men have this idea that we’re supposed to find most men attractive like how they find most women attractive. Men only find most women attractive because of the testosterone pumping through them to want to have sex with women. Most men are just neutral (not ugly but not cute) looking to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:35 PM
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Yes I agree. A lot of them need better self esteem, ignore women’s opinions about them and to do what makes them happy. Also, develop some masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:18 PM
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You mention height in any shape or form, they come seething to your post/comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:42 PM
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I was just looking at this post 🤣 This man is so beautiful
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:41 PM
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It’s really simple don’t be ugly. If you are ugly, you have to over compensate for that ugliness. If you are not ugly , just have decent social skills and a personality and you’ll be alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:34 PM
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Oh no sir I’ll happily and many others will tell you to your face that you’re ugly and that’s the reason for rejection. No one wants to be seen with someone facially challenged. Being ugly is just not always the reason though So just accept that instead of trying to make it more than what it is & move on. I’m personally not scared of judgement and will happily admit to being shallow because how else would I get a good looking man that I’m attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:06 PM
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Yes because being awkward is unattractive and ppl date based on what they find attractive in the other person. If your body language is awkward, I really don’t care about anything you have to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:03 PM
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Honesty is the best policy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 04:57 PM
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What do you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 04:54 PM
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Omg thank you !
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 02:10 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:45 PM
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Women don’t like awkward men, they’re very unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:38 PM
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They’re immediately rejected because they’re awkward. Being awkward reflects in your body language and in the 1st 5 seconds of meeting someone ppl can tell you’re awkward and that warrants for rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:15 PM
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What use is an average/slightly above average man to women If these men also desire casual sex as much as the top 10% men? Women might as well just deal with the top men because they’re overall better men and the outcome is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:03 PM
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Not necessarily. I think the only physical trait that can offset negative traits is having a good looking face. If you’re 6’4” and balding, I personally wouldn’t be interested. If you’re 5’7 and cute in the face, then I could work with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:43 AM
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This will be me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:15 PM
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Men are absolutely allowed to desire being wanted for everything. I thinks it’s human nature to want to be desired. I think the disconnect is women don’t naturally desire a lot of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:47 PM
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There’s a roller skating bar that just opened in my city and absolutely cannot wait to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:32 PM
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Women don’t resent men they just don’t think of them in our personal lives outside of the men that matter to us (Family members, Significant other, potential significant other, friends etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:38 PM
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Dating in your social circle is a suggestion. You’re supposed to do what you know is best for you to get the outcome you desire. If that happens to be dating in another culture or whatever then do that. You don’t have to take what ppl say to you so literally because you control your own life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:09 PM
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There are many ugly men out there willing to take women on dates. Women want someone good looking just like men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:22 AM
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Women in general aren’t attracted to most men, just off face alone a lot of men don’t meet the threshold of being cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:11 AM
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I don’t believe men are shamed that much. It’s much more accepted compared to women. If he is being shamed it’s for the approach and not the sexuality itself. It depends on how he goes about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 09:28 PM
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Yes women should be held accountable
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 09:19 PM
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I never said it didn’t. Also, a man will not be jailed, a lot of sexual assaults go unnoticed. Even men participate in shaming men who get groped and call them less than a man for not accepting it. Women don’t do that with other women. That also contributes to why when women grope a man, it gets laughed off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 06:52 PM
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Because it’s more so about how you go about displaying your sexuality. It’s entirely possible to be sexually attracted to women without objectifying them. When men get shamed for sexualizing women it’s always within an improper setting/context. No one is shaming men when they sexualize women in the strip club, they shame men when they sexualize women in an office meeting. Unless you’re specifically saying that men’s sexuality means that they can’t help to objectify & sexualize women no matter th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 06:47 PM
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Yes to this, it’s just common sense
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 04:20 PM
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I wasn’t really referring to extreme acts such as rape. I think men are shamed for the lengths they go for sex not their sexuality in itself. For example: harassing a woman who a man is very interested in but she’s not would be shamed. The man isn’t being shamed for liking the woman and wanting to have sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 03:57 PM
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I always thought men’s desire for women is more accepted. Men are justified in a lot of their doings when it comes to sex because society will just say men will be men. This is even more true outside of western countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 03:05 PM
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Don’t be ugly and have a decent personality. Go to local events and if you live in a small town, move.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 01:53 AM
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Dating is nuanced so sometimes you can pull outside your “league”. “Leagues” aren’t really set in stone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 10:23 PM
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You don’t have to
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 07:16 PM
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I definitely understand you. I guess it’s similar to keeping up with multiple friends. Some ppl are just very social.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 06:06 PM
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I totally agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 06:04 PM
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Exactly because he’s attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 06:00 PM
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I mean if we’re not exclusive then it doesn’t bother me. It’s pretty normal for ppl to date multiple ppl until they’re ready to get into a relationship. Honestly many men & women in my city have rosters lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 05:52 PM
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Yes if Chris Evans offered a coffee date or any low effort date she would take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:22 PM
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Sure if that’s what works for them
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:20 PM
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She would tolerate you and probably offer duty sex. Overall I agree, this is why I don’t advocate for women lowering their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 09:39 AM
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Low effort only becomes an issue if she doesn’t find you attractive. You basically have to make up for the lack of attraction. You can’t be low effort and unattractive. From the man’s perspective it’s just best to move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:54 AM
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What is up with the obsession with Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:03 PM
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I think that’s a little absurd. They act like you threatened someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 02:14 PM
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I assume most men especially as a black woman but they’re probably not going to tell me that. Yes I think I’m average looking, I’m just slim and in a very big city, so lots of ppl.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 02:02 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:06 PM
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Mine too ! I’m about to play this all weekend
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:06 PM
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Two separate occasions
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 12:59 PM
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I can’t believe some ppl think reddit is more toxic than Twitter. Twitter definitely takes the cake.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 12:52 PM
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XXXXXXXXX
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 12:50 PM
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Haha I love going outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 12:49 PM
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Thank you for this 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 12:49 PM
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At first I thought these 2 gentlemen at my job was just being very nice to me but now they both admitted they find me attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 12:44 PM
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I totally forgot about Pink’s R&B music era from the early 2000s and omg I miss that era.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 11:52 AM
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I don’t deny that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:33 PM
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No I haven’t, seems like a waste of time because what would be the end goal? Plus we already know if you’re ugly/unattractive then you’ll struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 02:50 PM
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Ok sir
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 04:02 PM
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What’s your point exactly? Even if that were true, that doesn’t make creating this fantasy any less weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 04:02 PM
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It’s a very weird assumption and says more about the person assuming. Why not just think they’re attractive and move along
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 04:00 PM
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Why do you say that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:53 PM
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If they were an attractive woman they would get fucked by multiple men? I find that interesting considering they supposedly don’t like woman who have a high body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:33 PM
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😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:31 PM
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Lmaooo exactly. I think most ppl will make exceptions for attractive ppl (pretty privilege). Of course there are a few ppl that will go the extreme route and make exceptions for a serial killer or a jail bird.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:29 PM
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You’re right, it is still hot. October is usually still warm especially the last couple years. There’s so much Halloween decorations already out , it’s crazy tbh lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:25 PM
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Why don’t you go out and have some fun 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:23 PM
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Idc to be thankful. I care that spew misogynistic nonsense that lowers the quality of this subreddit. You can debate without misogyny or misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:22 PM
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I’m ready for Halloween season. 🎃👻 Haunted Houses and Halloween parties
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:19 PM
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Anyone else think it’s weird that some guys will see an attractive woman and with no knowledge of her background make up some fantasy that she’s most likely being fucked by different men? I wonder if this is some type of porn brain thing because why is that their immediate thought
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:17 PM
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Attractive men will always and I mean always have women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:11 PM
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I just don’t care enough to be thankful
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:10 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion but nah
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:49 PM
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They’re not the same. Maybe 2 sides of the same coin. The “why” doesn’t matter because what IS that they’re still cowards. Idc why. It’s just like misandrists, no one cares why. We know that they’re miserable social rejects who are cowardly in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:07 PM
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Take what the men who spew misogynistic stuff with a grain of salt. Most of them that are hateful are actually shy cowards in real life and if a woman actually gave them the time of day, they’d probably freeze up like the awkward weirdo that they are and she could probably use him before he uses her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:44 PM
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Probably not. There needs to be a base line of attractiveness plus the emotional connection. A “vibe” isn’t substantial enough for me to want to fuck them. I’ve vibed with many men because they kept me entertained for the moment and forgot about them the next day. I personally need something more. Attractiveness is always more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:23 PM
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Attractiveness would be more important to me. Attractiveness involves everything from looks to charm, charisma, style, height, lifestyle, emotional connection etc. I can acknowledge a good looking man and not be attracted to him, I guess that would be the “prettiness” category. I need the additional traits to be attracted for sex. For the most part women’s attraction is not spontaneous. But a guy in the prettiness category is worth getting to know and sometimes being approached depending on the …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:07 PM
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As with most things in life, you have to find balance. Having your spouse be your best friend just means (from my perspective) that you’ll get along really well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:36 PM
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Social media allows her to get an idea of who you are. Also, some women like status and social media is apart of that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:16 PM
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You don’t have to lie, tell the truth and/or just leave the relationship if it bothers you. No one is forcing you to lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:41 AM
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What exactly do you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:27 PM
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They’re not trash, I just don’t find them attractive enough to approach for a potential relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:27 PM
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How’d you get all men I meet are trash from that? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:20 PM
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Not necessarily, I want to be a man dealing with men positives/Negatives. I’m currently a woman dealing with women positives/negatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:25 AM
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I don’t want to
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:20 AM
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I’ve never seen a man worth approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:13 AM
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Sure, I feel your pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:00 AM
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I understand men have their negatives and that’s fine with me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:54 AM
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That’s fine with me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:54 AM
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I understand men have their problems but I would rather deal with them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:53 AM
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I’m ok with that & thanks I appreciate the support. It’s not happening any way lol just some hypotheticals.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 04:11 AM
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This is just a battle of what you think is worse and I’m still vouching to be a man. 👨
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 03:58 AM
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Thanks I appreciate that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:05 AM
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I agree it is different problems but I was just answering OP’s question.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:45 AM
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Men have more potential to defend themselves compared to women, let’s not act like this isn’t true. A teenage Boy can defend himself to a certain degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:29 AM
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Thanks I appreciate you wishing me good luck lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:28 AM
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At least you can defend yourself. Even if it happens to women less, when it does happen, we can’t naturally defend ourselves so we’re SOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:19 AM
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You asked a question and you don’t like the answer. Whose to say you’re not looking at through a males lense, this goes both ways. Why do you think it’s so bad to want to be a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:56 PM
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Almost Every day, I just came from the store and a man stared at me while loudly saying “damn you’re so god damn sexy, I’d love a piece of that”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:51 PM
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Regardless I still would rather that than be a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:46 PM
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I just think that’s better than being sexualized. I understand men have their negatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:45 PM
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We already know men think women live life on easy mode but I Still would prefer to be a man because being sexualized is annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:40 PM
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That’s not happening and you know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:36 PM
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That’s fine with me. Men harass me constantly and say the most outlandish things because as a woman I’m heavily sexualized.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:35 PM
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That’s fine with me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:33 PM
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I would prefer that over being sexualized.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:33 PM
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I didn’t say it was an easy job. Also I wouldn’t care what’s attractive to women, it just sounds like you’re projecting at this point. It’s clear you’re not asking this question in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:23 PM
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Men & women still take hot men more seriously, their looks aren’t a priority compared to women. A woman’s looks will always be a priority no matter how successful she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:10 PM
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Become a handy man because I personally love handy men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:05 PM
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I would prefer that over being sexualized. I like money & I like to take care of the ppl around me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:03 PM
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And I would want to be useful 🤷🏾‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:01 PM
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I don’t see anything wrong with that, men have achieved great things and I would do my best to be apart of that. Then I would share my earnings with my family. At least you have control over your success to a degree. Women will always be sexualized and we have no control over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:58 PM
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Invisible in what sense? Like not sexualized? Arguably men treat women like shit (especially since a lot of women die at the hands of men) so I don’t think there’s much of a difference there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:49 PM
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I have no problem with that, prefer that over being sexualized constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:39 PM
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Yes I would, you’re seen as a human being and not a sexual being.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:32 PM
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Is it really better to have loved and lost than to never love at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 06:43 PM
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Relationships are also about sex and no one wants to have sex with someone they’re not attracted to. If there was absolutely no sex involved then I would agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:05 AM
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Women had/have no choice if they want to live a decent life. That’s why “duty sex” and men raping their wives became a thing. Those women weren’t sexually attracted to those men. Women in countries with the freedom to do so are now prioritizing sexual attraction to their man. The same thing men always prioritized in women. That is apart of why the single rates of women are going up and birth rates are dropping. Women had to put their true desires on the back burner for men for a very long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:05 AM
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The average man and woman is overweight, in debt, unkempt, emotional unstable, insecure, lack self awareness, sex obsessed, self centered and selfish. That’s how I’m defining mediocre.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 04:46 AM
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Women will stop complaining when men stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 04:22 AM
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No one’s going to therapy so sexually unattractive men can get a crumb of pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 04:17 AM
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