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| 6 | He said he would wingman but he fucked her instead?I've gone out alone and gone out with friends. I think things go better when you're with friends (as long as you aren't sticking to your group of friends). I think women see you with friends and think "oh, he has friends, so he must be somewhat normal" and things go better. Also, chatting with friends puts you in a more social, talkative headspace. When you're out alone, women might think you're a weird loner, that you don't have friends, or wonder why you're going to bars alone. Overall, women … | /r/seduction | 12/10/25 05:38 AM |
| – | Literally every male in the history of existence has wanted to have sex. Women should stop acting like a guy it’s disgusting for wanting to have sex.No, it's not just lying and manipulation or caring about them purely sexually that they don't like. Look, I get that women are put off my men who are trying to get sexual too quickly - for example, bringing up sex on a dating app or sending dick pics. And YES, even when that doesn't involve lying or manipulation or just caring about them sexually. The reality is that women are off-put that men often want to move quickly with sex while she often wants to move slowly with sex and she's annoyed tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 05:38 PM |
| – | Dating is insanely inequal and unfair for men, yet no one’s adressing it even though it affects fundamental humana concrete action to take that would make it fair I think it's completely unreasonable to act like a problem isn't a problem unless they can propose a solution. > without compromising on the free will of people to choose the partners they'd want to be with. I think you could use that same argument about a lot of things. Racism? You can't complain about racism unless you violate people's free will to think bad things about other races. Sexism? You can't complain about sexism without violating peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/25 07:55 PM |
| 21 | When did the narrative shift from "it's your personality and misogyny that keeping you single" to "ofc women love attractive men, are you a stupid shut in!!" ?The general vibe I get is that women say it's about personality and misogyny when they feel attacked and want to make the guy look like the reason for his own problems. It puts the blame squarely on the guy for his dating problems. It puts no blame on women. This allows women to look good maintain the moral high-ground. But in cases where it's undeniable that women go for the tall, attractive guys, they admit that looks are important - "and you're an idiot for not knowing that". The "you're an i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/25 08:29 AM |
| 2 | When did the narrative shift from "it's your personality and misogyny that keeping you single" to "ofc women love attractive men, are you a stupid shut in!!" ?In general, that's not true. And it's only true for men with "extreme" looks - like a guy who's into punk rock or has tons of tattoos. That kind of guy might look great to a woman in a similar subculture, but would look terrible to a lot of women, too. There was an OKCupid study a while back that talked about this. Basically, some people were rated, according to other people, much more variable than other people. People who looked fairly "basic" tended to get rated the same by most people. Peopl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/25 08:14 AM |
| – | Do men care about confidence in women?Yeah, I don't believe that's what most women mean by confidence. If women just wanted men who weren't insecure, they should simply say "men who aren't insecure". It's like - if women said they wanted "tall men", that doesn't mean "women want men who aren't short (i.e. 5'6" or shorter or something like that). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/25 06:53 AM |
| 1 | There is no such thing as an "invalid" or "shallow" reason not to date someone, every single dating preference is valid.Any you only need to win the lottery once to have all the money you need in life - so just keep pouring your money into lotto tickets, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/25 06:34 AM |
| 1 | You're not an "average" guy if you struggle in datingStudies show women are "less likely to overestimate their own level of attractiveness." Yeah, I'd like to see that study replicated before I believe it. There was a study I saw a while back that asked men and women to rate themselves relative to the average person of their own gender. [Women] will consider herself as being more attractive compared to a (hypothetical) average woman in 94% of cases (compared to a probability of 78% for men). https://www.researchgate.net/publication/329327914_Almos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/25 06:29 AM |
| 1 | Autism is the biggest barrier to dating and social growth and highly prevalent online. Most PPD content misleads this proportion of men to focus on the wrong things.While I agree that these are problems for autistic men. I disagree that you can sum up the dating crisis as "men being autistic". If you look at the marriage rates, they are in steep decline for decades. If you look at trendlines, the boys who are about 10 years-old and younger right now, will have around a 50% chance of ever getting married by age 40. That's NOT because of autism. That's the biggest problem I have with this post. It whitewashes all the reasons that dating sucks for men with a s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/25 05:19 AM |
| 3 | lusting after a body =/= unconditional loveNo, that's incorrect. There have been a number of studies on this, and they do not support the claim that men leave their partners more often when they are sick. Source: https://youtu.be/M8iVWjrgizY | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/25 05:02 AM |
| 4 | lusting after a body =/= unconditional loveAlso one study shows that men are far more likely to leave their partner if she gets cancer or some type of serious disease. That's not true. There have been a number of studies on this, and they do not support the claim that men leave their partners more often when they are sick. The results are all over the place. Source: https://youtu.be/M8iVWjrgizY | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/25 05:01 AM |
| 4 | lusting after a body =/= unconditional loveThere have been a number of studies on this, and they do not support the claim that men leave their partners more often when they are sick. The results are all over the place. Some found that women leave sick men more often than men leave sick wives. Some found that both men and women are more likely to stay with sick partners than healthy ones. Some found that men and women were more likely to leave sick partners than healthy partners. The array of studies that have looked at this absolutely do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/25 04:59 AM |
| 5 | lusting after a body =/= unconditional loveThere have been a number of studies on this, and they do not support the claim that men leave their partners more often when they are sick. The results are all over the place. Some found that women leave sick men more often. Some found that both men and women are more likely to stay with sick partners than healthy ones. Some found that men and women were more likely to leave sick partners than healthy partners. The array of studies that have looked at this absolutely do not support the idea that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/25 04:57 AM |
| 17 | Women don't reserve casual sex for top % men because those are the only ones we're attracted to.Some of this post just sounds like the "spotlight effect" - i.e. a person thinks that everyone around them is watching and remembering everything they do. This is especially common in younger people (especially elementary though high school). The spotlight effect is a psychological phenomenon where people overestimate how much others notice them, their actions, and their mistakes. It's a form of cognitive bias that leads individuals to believe they are under constant scrutiny, like they're alway… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/25 04:09 AM |
| 1 | Divorce rate stats are misleading on on purposeNot sure what you're talking about. The lesbian divorce rate is higher than the heterosexual divorce rate. Gay men get divorced less than heterosexual couples. I have no idea where you came up with the "90% success rate" thing because it's not true. That stat might be correct if you asked "what percentage of gay marriages are still together after three years" or something like that, which is obviously a misuse of statistics. A 2022 study of Norway, using data up to 2018, found that divorce rates… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/25 04:23 PM |
| 1 | CMV: requiring women to make the first move with "choosing signals" is just more emotional laborI agree. Asking women to do anything beyond lay in bed and rot is proof that the patriarchy has total control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/25 12:23 AM |
| 3 | The men who don't want to approach don't understand that approaching is a priviledgeWhen women approach men they get labelled all sorts of awful things. Men do not respect women who approach. I don't believe you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 10:51 PM |
| 10 | What Cheating Statistics Tell Us About RelationshipsIt's easy to argue that serial monogamy is probably the most "natural" way. Besides, it's not a question of "whether monogamy is the natural way", but rather, is it the best of all the flawed systems? As someone who has known people in poly relationships, I can tell you that it is a shit-show. The amount of jealousy and hurt feelings is crazy, and I'm sure it's worse than monogamy, with all of it's flaws. I also don't think raising children while living a poly lifestyle works very well. Which is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 04:08 PM |
| 4 | CMV: men push this narrative that older women are less attractive but they have it backwardsWTF does "Knowing what you want" have to do with attracting the opposite sex? Plus the fact that "knowing what you want" is generally a euphemism for "entitled and demanding", which definitely aren't attractive traits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/25 04:14 PM |
| 4 | The Power of Being InterestingI doubt that you know enough from people's comments whether they are "boring af". Seems like you'd need to at least be in the same room as them to know that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/25 11:29 PM |
| 1 | The Power of Being InterestingYeah, he was cheating on his wife a lot before they got separated. But he was leveraging his fame and women's desire to be actresses in order to get laid. He was telling women that he'd put them into a starring role in some project that he was working on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/25 11:27 PM |
| 3 | The Power of Being InterestingThe short, bald, overweight Indian janitor? Yeah, we've all heard about him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/25 11:24 PM |
| 67 | Why do men interpret women’s disinterest as hostility?When someone doesn't want you, and especially if you repeatedly fail with the opposite sex, it can easily be interpreted as "they think they're too good for me" or "I'm not good enough" which is an insult. This can be especially jarring if you feel like she's "on your level", rather than a woman who seems out of your league. Someone not wanting to date you is still a rejection. Overall, I think men get very few compliments and lots of rejection. This can also put men on edge because that ratio o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/25 11:39 PM |
| – | The internet’s height fetish for men is completely made upI've seen way too much evidence to the contrary to take this post seriously. It's not uncommon to be out at the club, and I'll notice that all the prettiest girls are paired up with the tallest guys there. That's no coincidence. My super pretty former neighbor got a boyfriend last year. Any guesses how tall he is? He's about 6'6". About one in a thousand men are that tall. But by pure coincidence, he ended up with this very pretty woman and vice-versa. I've also heard plenty of women mention how… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/25 11:59 PM |
| 1 | If the roles were reversed and women were held to the same dating standards as men they would be just as hateful and bitterit's evolution via sexual selection driving the dating issues for men and women. No one is at fault for that, it's just the way the world evolved. Assuming that's true, there's still reasons why people should be allowed to complain about it. If men evolved to be brutal to women - domestic violence, rape, etc - that doesn't mean women should be okay with it. Heck, in quite a few species, the males will kill the infants of females (from other males) in order to drive the mothers into fertility mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/25 03:37 PM |
| 10 | The best way to attract women is to not try.It's true. I know that guy. He doesn't even swipe right on women. They see his profile, swipe right, and then track him down in real life because he isn't matching with them. Each night, he has two or three women outside his window holding a boombox playing love songs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/25 04:42 PM |
| -4 | She Was a Feminist. I Told Her I Do Daygame. Here’s What Happened…One of the girls turned out to be bisexual, and also very into feminism - two things that, for a lot of guys, would instantly trigger a “uh-oh, this won’t go well” reaction. But guess what? Not sure what you're talking about with the bisexual thing. Men generally don't care if a woman is bisexual. However, I could see the feminism thing as being a problem, since women who are outspoken about being feminists are often combative, and that can be annoying. | /r/seduction | 19/06/25 07:15 PM |
| 4 | Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enoughThat may be true, but it still side-steps the problem that, if men are judged more harshly (by women) than women are judged (by men), it leads to a bad dating market, and I think men are justified in complaining about it. It signals a disfunction in the dating market. Let's imagine we were talking about race. Let's say you live in a horribly racist society, where a white person is judged to be twice as competent as an equally competent black person. Employers come along, and they ignore most bla… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/25 04:30 PM |
| 9 | Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enoughMen do prioritize looks while women prioritize wealth. It's not some redpill bull I can drop the study if anyone wants. These aren't the same. A man in the top 5% of income is definitely NOT seen as being as attractive as a woman in the top 5% of physical attractiveness. Sure, it makes some difference, but people really overestimate how much wealth plays a role in women's attraction, especially in 2025, when women earn their own money. Speaking of this topic, I remember seeing a study where wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/25 02:54 PM |
| 18 | Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enoughWhile I agree with the general point that men can find a girlfriend if they lower their standards enough (just like anyone could get a job if they would just lower their standards to working minimum wage), it side-steps the question of the unfairness of the dating market to men. So instead of constantly complaining about women's standards and who you deem they should settle for, then maybe you need to drop your standards a little, to women you aren't attracted to. Because that's what you're alwa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/25 02:43 PM |
| 25 | If women actually had such good personalities - men would just hire them to ghost write their dating profiles and chats.A number of YouTubers and TikTokers have done experiments with this - where they would have a female friend run a man's dating profile and try to get dates. Women find it unbelievably difficult, and they start to engage in a lot of self-doubt. They thought they were getting dates as women because they had such a great personality, but couldn't understand why, when pretending to be a man, they fail. Even if they get matches, they get tons of non-responses and ghosting. It really made them questio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/25 04:49 AM |
| 2 | Grandparent Love Was Survival Not ChoiceWomen have had property rights and bank accounts for FAR longer than you claim. In 1848, New York State passed a law that gave married women the right to own their own property. ... Alllll the way back in 1862, California became the first state to pass a law that explicitly allowed women to open a bank account in their own names — regardless of marital status. So even married women could participate independently. https://femmefrugality.com/myth-busting-womens-banking/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/25 12:00 AM |
| 0 | Grandparent Love Was Survival Not ChoiceThat may be, but I have two objections: First, I remember seeing my grandpa flirting with my grandma on several occasions. They were in their 80s at the time. Just because people were married in the past doesn't mean it was an unhappy marriage. Second, human psychology is weird. We are far more social in poverty than in wealth. Maybe it's driven partly by the subconscious knowledge that if anyone gets into trouble (injured, lost job, disability, etc), they will have to rely on their friends, nei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/25 11:56 PM |
| 0 | Only Women, Children and Pets Are Loved Unconditionally.Trust me - NOBODY is worried about "the rate limiting factor in population growth" on a sinking ship. That's absurd, especially when 99.99% of people aren't on the ship to begin with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/25 11:42 PM |
| 3 | Only Women, Children and Pets Are Loved Unconditionally.I agree with that. However, I also think that children are closest to being loved unconditionally. I have a friend with an autistic child. He is low-functioning and she has to watch him constantly because he will do things like put his poop on the walls. He has also hit her so much that she has lots of bruises. But, she still loves that kid. It really says something about parents loving their kids. I also think that men are more likely to love their wife despite her flaws (compared to a woman an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/25 11:37 PM |
| 2 | Only Women, Children and Pets Are Loved Unconditionally.I think the general idea is that, once a man does love a woman, that his love is unconditional. Admittedly, I don't actually believe anyone loves unconditionally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/25 11:28 PM |
| 12 | Misogynist young adults get more sexHaving grown up religious, I don't think this is the reason. I didn't see crazy high rates of sex among my peers. If anything, it reduced the amount of sex because both boys and girls were warned against pre-marital sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/25 04:40 PM |
| 0 | If we remove finances men have nothing to giveThere are plenty of things that men provide (with the exception of the bottom of the barrel men). I think the problem involves women not appreciating men. Sort of like how you can do everything for your teenager, and they still treat you like you're a burden on their lives. 50/50 is the norm in most western countries. Maybe a guy pays for a date here and there but that's nothing like how the men of the past payed for everything. I don't know where you live, but I pay for 90% of my dates. The oth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/25 10:31 PM |
| 9 | Men need to stop chasing women.Yeah? And that's why Western women love to call foreign women gold-diggers? Because they're so concerned about these victims that they have to insult them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/25 04:27 PM |
| 4 | Men need to stop chasing women.In my opinion if 10-15% of men would start completely ignoring the existence of women... I think what would happen is that more men would be dating multiple women. It would still have an effect on society, though: a larger percentage of kids would have an absent/deadbeat father. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/25 04:22 PM |
| 6 | Men need to stop chasing women.I think you mean John Nash, not Adam Smith. https://plus.maths.org/content/if-we-all-go-blonde YouTube: "A Beautiful Mind (2001) - Ignore the Blonde Scene" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6eK0yiw9t0 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/25 04:20 PM |
| 1 | Is being too nurturing a turn off?It has nothing to do with an axis of "submission" or "dominance," it's not "submissive" to constantly be bothering me, it's just annoying. Those constant texts could just as easily be "where are you right now?" And "when are you coming back?" And "who are you with right now?" That's not "submissiveness," that's controlling, and honestly frequent "I'm thinking about you" texts come across as manipulative in a passive-aggressive way. I feel like you pulled that interpretation out of thin air. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/25 12:09 AM |
| 2 | Is being too nurturing a turn off?people pleasers are the same level of assholes as assholes are lol, they both have the same goal (i.e., getting what they want irrespective of others) but just take opposite routes to get there. Do you think that people who work for a living are the same as thieves - they both want money but take different routes to get there - and that makes them the same level of asshole? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/25 12:07 AM |
| 2 | Girls do well in school not because teachers prioritize them, it's because the female "nature" is more suitable for that environment than the male nature is.Maybe there could be parts of the school-day that are segregated and other parts that aren't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/25 08:38 PM |
| 1 | Girls do well in school not because teachers prioritize them, it's because the female "nature" is more suitable for that environment than the male nature is.I'm a man. I always did well in school. Yes, I had a lot of those traits: being quiet, sitting still, doing as they're told/following instructions, working in a group. I did great in school - a straight-A student. You know what those traits aren't good for? Getting girls. I have to assume that there's some kind of either evo-psych or simple psychology going on where loud boys who demand attention are the most likely to get attention from the girls, so they are incentivized to continue acting tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/25 08:37 PM |
| – | I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realiseactually means "no sex", and then I gave up. So one dude argued that it's just about sex, and you threw in the towel? Good job. /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/25 04:51 PM |
| -1 | Raising children an unpaid job!You're right. It's well known that slaves in the Antebellum South drove SUVs and had lattes every morning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/25 05:25 PM |
| -6 | Raising children an unpaid job!I'll be sure to tell my sister-in-law that she's not a real person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/25 05:23 PM |
| 8 | Raising children an unpaid job!No court would seriously uphold the claim that it's all his property. It doesn't matter what this hypothetical man says. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/25 05:22 PM |
| 15 | Dating men are NOT better people than VirginsOh man, you reminded me of an instagram post the other day. ProfG was talking about the male loneliness epidemic and dating problems, and the whole comment section was full of upvoted comments by women talking about how terrible men are, and how men deserve it. It's pretty mainstream. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKATfCOi-nz/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/25 04:07 AM |
| 0 | Dating is garbage today due to the rise of Asymmetric CourtshipI'm not sure what you're talking about. Your post explicitly said "relationships". "Dating is garbage today due to the rise of Asymmetric Courtship" ... "from any man who is entering a relationship with them" Some commenter pretends it's just about casual sex, and you agree with them. But your post wasn't about casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/25 04:34 PM |
| -1 | Women will never understand male plight and vice versa.I don't agree with that. First, I'm sure there are FAR more books written by feminists in the past 50 years than by MRAs or RedPillers, so being able to cherry-pick books where women are concerned about men is naturally going to be a lot easier since there are probably tens of thousands of feminist books. I'm also not sure why MRA and RedPill are seen as the natural counterpart to Feminists. Prof G does a lot of talks about the problems of young men. He also bends over backwards to agree with th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/25 02:21 AM |
| 1 | Men would not make the decisions they want women to make if they were us.First, I disagree with the claim that most men would do this. There's always a vocal minority online. Plus people pay more attention to voices that irritate them than voices that agree with them - i.e. men who say absurd things will be remembered better than ten men who say reasonable things. Second, some of what you're seeing is a guy imagining how easy sex would be if he was a woman combined with his high level of male horniness. Men also correctly notice that female sexuality is far more valu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/25 03:59 PM |
| 2 | One of the biggest problems in dating is men *think* they want easy sex.I wonder if people got confused and thought the question was "has over a million dollars of net worth" rather than "earns a million dollars a year". There are approximately 22 million people in the U.S. who are considered millionaires, meaning they have a net worth of $1 million or more. That would be much closer to the truth - 22 million out of 340 million is 6.5% | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/25 11:14 PM |
| 8 | It's very dangerous seeing all these female dating experts using male loneliness as a way to bash men when there's literally no co-relation that lonely man=bad men.Spoiler alert: Lift_and_Lurk is Steve Maraboli, and he's making these quotes up on the fly right before he posts them. /jk | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/25 05:37 PM |
| – | Women are emotional geniuses—and most men are stuck pretending not to feelWomen are absolutely not emotional geniuses. I've talked to women who openly admitted that their ability to pick men is exactly backwards: ignoring the good guys and picking the bad guys. But eventually, the fact that they're bad guys eventually catches up to them. They understand how to use love, affection, and emotional presence in ways most men don’t even notice. Not because they’re evil or manipulative in a malicious sense—but because they had to learn emotional nuance to survive in a world … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/25 11:37 PM |
| – | Women are emotional geniuses—and most men are stuck pretending not to feelits not a feature to runaway from your emotions. You should channel you emotions not hide them, or live in denial of them, or flat out disregard them them. In certain contexts, it is adaptive to runaway from your emotions. Dogs pretend they aren't injured because they know it will be worse for them if they show they're injured (other animals or other dogs might take advantage of the dog's temporary handicap). It's the same way in dangerous situations - like prison. I'd never want to show any kin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/25 11:22 PM |
| 2 | Do Android phones really make you less attractive?So you could do A/B testing on dates? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/25 07:26 PM |
| 2 | Do Android phones really make you less attractive?<image> | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/25 07:24 PM |
| 1 | The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences“At least” once a year. if the 80 plus percent are getting some. That’s the average. Those numbers are based on all people in that age group - meaning it combines people in relationships and people who are single. But here we show an 80 plus percent chance at getting laid and somehow “that’s not good enough?” Because those 80% odds are based on everyone, and the people in relationships are obviously going to be getting laid, we know that people who are single have less than an 80% chance of gett… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/25 12:42 AM |
| 1 | The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiencesIt looks to me like those numbers are based on everyone in that age group. Obviously, people who are in relationships are going to be getting laid (except in the case of the very worst dead-bedroom relationships). There's a gap between the percentage of people in relationships getting laid and percentage of people who are single who are getting laid. OP is obviously in the "single" category, and it's incorrect to act like 80% of single people got laid last year. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/25 12:40 AM |
| 24 | The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiencesPosts like this are basically saying “there is absolutely nothing about me that anyone could like.” I don't see how you could've come to the conclusion that he was saying that. Many men are frustrated because they know they have something to offer, but the dating market treats them like they have nothing to offer. That gap fuels frustration. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/25 12:20 AM |
| 9 | Most people who complain about shallow people would be just as shallow and picky if they had the chanceI don't think the "you'd do it if you could" argument holds much weight, and I'm not sure why people think it does. First, it requires a level of mind-reading about people would hypothetically do. Second, it's not even a good argument. If I said "If I was a white man in America 200 years ago - yeah, I'd have slaves! A bunch of free labor to make me rich sounds great." or "If I was a monarch, of course I would not have a parliament or freedom of speech. Whatever I say is law. I can kill anybody I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/25 04:37 PM |
| 3 | Women lie about their "low" standards and the bar in hellAttraction is subjective. It doesn't seem to be as subjective as people say it is. On Hinge, the top 10% of men receive almost 60% of likes from women. The bottom 90% get the other 40% of likes. To put it another way, a man in the top 10% is 12.5x as likely to receive a like as a man in the bottom 90%. It seems like there's a pretty good consensus on what women (and men) find attractive. Source: https://senseoffairness.blog/2020/02/14/the-unfairness-of-online-dating/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/25 05:08 AM |
| -3 | Fierce Competition Is an Underrated Reason Behind Modern Dating StrugglesExcept that women are holding out for "what she deserves", which is a subjective evaluation based on the attention she gets. It isn't as simple as "do you add value to her life?" - the question is "do you add more value to her life than she'd get from some other guy?" It's about getting the highest tier man from her available options. And many people on PPD would argue that this should be rational and uncontroversial for her to do this. (I'm not arguing whether or not they are correct, just poin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/25 12:29 AM |
| 2 | The biggest issue in gender is simply that men die faster single.To be clear: BOTH men and women die faster when single. Between 65 and 85 years, married men and women had a longer TLE (total life expectancy) and ALE (active life expectancy) than unmarried men and women. For example, at 65 years, TLE for married men was 18.6 years, 2.2 years longer than unmarried men, and ALE for married men was 12.3 years, 2.4 years longer than unmarried men. Similarly, at 65 years, TLE for married women was 21.1 years, 1.5 years longer than unmarried women, and ALE for marr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/25 03:12 AM |
| -1 | We should stop using anecdotal “just look around” arguments to combat current dataA woman was not allowed to have a bank account in the United States till 1974 That isn't true, even though it's constantly repeated. What happened was, in 1974, the Equal Credit Opportunity Act (ECOA) was passed which made it illegal to discriminate against women. That doesn't mean that every bank was discriminating against women. 1862: First state allows women to open bank accounts regardless of marital status. That’s right. Alllll the way back in 1862, California became the first state to pass… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/25 03:03 AM |
| 5 | Why do PPD men tell women to ignore red flags then turn around and complain that we date criminals and bad people?This post just looks like "push polling" - the attempt to assert something as true, but framing it as a question. Push-polling is much too common on PPD. I reject the whole premise of the post because I don't think there are a bunch of men saying to do those things. Once a guy here insisted women should be willing to date a man who makes $14k a year because he can use that income to help with rent and groceries. Once? That seems like a shaky foundation to claim that lots of men are claiming this… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/25 01:00 AM |
| 0 | “Men are looking for clean water in a desert while women are looking for clean water in a swamp” is the most misandrist analogy I ever heardThey might not even be doing self loathing. They might be doing something along the lines of: "yeah, almost all men are trash... but not me! I'm one of the good ones. I'm not like the other guys!" as a way to validate women's feelings while also elevating themselves above other men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/25 06:02 PM |
| 20 | “Men are looking for clean water in a desert while women are looking for clean water in a swamp” is the most misandrist analogy I ever heardAccording to the metaphor, all or most men are trash. I understand they might not argue that 100 out of 100 are trash, but the argument is still that most men are trash. If someone said, "Trying to find good women employees is like trying to find clean water in a swamp" or "Trying to hire good black employees is like trying to find clean water in a swamp", everyone would recognize the analogy as sexist and racist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/25 05:58 PM |
| 9 | “Men are looking for clean water in a desert while women are looking for clean water in a swamp” is the most misandrist analogy I ever heardCompared to young men, young women typically... While I think some of that is true, you still need to find an explanation for men who do those things and still end up with a crappy dating life, and worse dating life than women who only do half of those things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/25 05:20 PM |
| 4 | “Men are looking for clean water in a desert while women are looking for clean water in a swamp” is the most misandrist analogy I ever heardMen can solve the problem by decentering women, quit dating and especially online dating. Don't seek marriage. Don't seek attention of women. Fixing balance starts with YOU stopping chasing women and inflating their egos That works on a group-level, but it requires getting billions of men to cooperate. And the men who stop doing that stuff end up being the most likely to be alone. So, the advice doesn't help the individual guy. But that individual guy who goes MGTOW can be a martyr to improve th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/25 05:16 PM |
| 18 | “Men are looking for clean water in a desert while women are looking for clean water in a swamp” is the most misandrist analogy I ever heardWhy would an average woman give an average guy a chance when she has already matched with over a dozen significantly-above-average guys this week? This sentence is in contradiction to the "swamp" metaphor, though. The swamp metaphor is that a woman gets 100+ likes, but all of those men are trash. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/25 05:10 PM |
| 17 | Men not getting matches on dating apps makes senseI disagree. I know plenty of guys who meet those criteria, and still have crappy dating lives. Based on your theory, guys who meet that criteria should be swimming in options. I'm pretty skeptical of your story, especially the part where you say watched her swipe on Tinder for two hours. Most likely, she was left-swiping on most guys simply because they didn't meet her physical attractiveness threshold. Over 185 cm tall (Makes sense in Scandinavia) That's 6'1", and it's definitely above the aver… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/25 11:54 PM |
| 18 | Men need to be aware that they are easily replaceableThe only part I disagree with is that "so many men on here who seemingly are aware of this". I've long argued that women have enormous dating privilege, and that, from a power dynamics standpoint, women have most of the power in dating. Recently, I was dating a woman for a couple months, and she said that "All you need to be successful on a dating app is a vagina". So obviously women know it, too. I've known very average women who can easily score lots of dates on dating apps. One friend of mine… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/25 07:53 PM |
| 8 | The true problem with today's society is women have been radicalized far more than menDon't forget that it was Trump's appointees who overturned Roe v Wade. Women have plenty of good reasons to hate the Trump administration and vote against it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/25 06:28 PM |
| 2 | Male sexuality prevents men from being suitable life partnersHere's another one that shows that men tend to message women around their own age: <image> | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/25 03:08 AM |
| 3 | Male sexuality prevents men from being suitable life partnersAnd did you look at the other charts? Here's one. It shows that men's age-range settings tend to be around their own age. <image> And here's another one that shows that men tend to message women around their own age (graph in the next comment, since i can't post two images in one message). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/25 03:07 AM |
| 1 | I am sick of hearing about being stuck in the FRIENDZONE from menAnd it validates my policy of never fully trusting a man, first encouraged by men Can you ever fully trust anyone - man or woman? Women will also stab you in the back. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/25 02:41 AM |
| 2 | The resentment for women will grow drastically in years to comeLol. Enjoy having a daughter that gets used and abandoned by men, then. Those men won't ever invest in those kids. They'll learn to be assholes who make a lot of promises and then ditch her the minute that she's no longer a net benefit - which will probably happen because those guys will start banging some younger woman. Meanwhile, she'll be poor and overworked. Basically, life in the ghetto. Congrats on driving women's lives into the ditch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/25 10:51 PM |
| – | Women don't "owe" men relationships...But it's reasonable for men to be upset about not having themWhile I agree with that, it tap-dances around the issue. If I took away someone's job, it will increase the odds that they go and start committing theft. You can't make someone's conditions worse and then be surprised when they act-out in unhelpful ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/25 04:11 PM |
| – | Women don't "owe" men relationships...But it's reasonable for men to be upset about not having themIf it really was just about being short, short men wouldn’t be in relationships. But millions of them are, all despite them being short. It's a weird argument to say that "because I can find examples of X, then things aren't bad". I can find examples of women who are CEOs or in management positions. So, let's stop complaining about not enough women in leadership roles. I can find examples of black people with jobs, therefore, we should stop drawing attention to the fact that black people are dis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/25 04:04 PM |
| – | Women don't "owe" men relationships...But it's reasonable for men to be upset about not having themModern society is FAR more fair to women than primitive cultures or the animal kingdom. In many cultures and the animal kingdom, women are left to raise children on their own - maybe with their mothers contributing to child-rearing. In the modern world, my sister in law lives in a giant beautiful house where she raises my nephew and my brother pays all the bills. She hasn't had a job in over a decade. Life is SOOOOOOO much easier for women in the modern world and men are required to pay child su… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/25 04:00 PM |
| 23 | The WEF Gender Inequality measurement is knowingly biased (against men)So it's only a problem if there are legal roadblocks to it? That seems like a pretty shaky position to take, since gender inequality can exist without roadblocks. Back in the 60s and 70s, feminists thought it was a really big problem that there were more men than women going college. But there were women in college - they weren't barred from going. So, I guess it wasn't a problem, then, correct? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/25 04:27 AM |
| – | "I see far more attractive women than men" shows that beauty standards for women are not high"If the poor workers are unhappy with their pay, they should blame other workers, not the rich owners. If all the workers refused to work for any less than $40/hour, then everyone would get paid at least $40/hour. This is the fault of the workers." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/25 02:16 PM |
| – | "I see far more attractive women than men" shows that beauty standards for women are not highThat's true. Although muscle also contributes to BMI (BMI doesn't differentiate between fat and muscle). If the average guy has 5 or 10 pounds more muscle than the average woman, then more men will cross the BMI line from "average" to "overweight", even though it's muscle that put him over the line. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/25 02:13 PM |
| – | "I see far more attractive women than men" shows that beauty standards for women are not highYour comment reminds me of that old Jenna Marbles video "How to trick people into thinking you're good looking". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/25 02:09 PM |
| -15 | Q4M- Why don’t men believe the women who express that the fit and strong photo on the left is sexy, sensuous, sensual, broad, masculine, and generally better looking and more arousing to her than the photo on the right?What's her BMI? Because I have a suspicion that fit chicks prefer the guy on the right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/25 05:31 PM |
| – | Q4M- Why don’t men believe the women who express that the fit and strong photo on the left is sexy, sensuous, sensual, broad, masculine, and generally better looking and more arousing to her than the photo on the right?I think this "survey" is bullshit. I understand that the guy on the right might be a little *too* shredded and his shorts could be a little longer. Also, women have a strong tendency to make negative assumptions about men - "oh, he's in shape? His whole life probably revolves around the gym and eating chicken and broccoli. He's also probably full of himself. Maybe he's gay." It would also be interesting to see the breakdown in what women preferred which body type. My guess is that overweight wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/25 05:26 PM |
| 4 | Q4M- Why don’t men believe the women who express that the fit and strong photo on the left is sexy, sensuous, sensual, broad, masculine, and generally better looking and more arousing to her than the photo on the right?itd be like making drivers be cyclists first, it would improve the whole world !! They probably don't want to be cyclists because then they'd lose weight and get shredded. They're obviously working on their dad bods by driving around in cars all day. They know what attracts women. /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/25 05:01 PM |
| 6 | You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious.Cinderella is pretty as soon as she gets a makeover. She's basically the equivalent of that shy, glasses-wearing nerd who walks down the stairs after a superficial makeover, and she looks amazing. "Oh, all I needed was to take-off my big glasses and let my hair down, and I'd be the hottest girl in school?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/25 05:07 PM |
| 7 | You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious.I see a lot of people blaming Disney? As a guy....WHY did you let disney inform your world view anyway? I thought the argument was that Disney was informing women's worldview, not men's worldview. As in: it conditions women to expect to get the tall, handsome, wealthy, high-status prince and to see themselves as the princess. Heck, I have friends with daughters who insist on wearing the Disney princess dress everywhere. She very obviously identifies with being a princess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/25 05:03 PM |
| 5 | What is wrong with modern menWhere are you hanging out OP? Because I hear far more complaints about men than women. The only time I hear complaints about women is in this subreddit and occasionally a YouTube video. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/25 01:33 AM |
| 3 | "Chad" is less likely to be misogynistic than a sexually inexperienced man: A study found that the more sexually experienced a man is, the more biased he is towards women."Chad thinks the same thing about women that we do" which is nonsense I don't know. I'd be curious how they actually tested this. Because from my understanding, men's opinions of women seems to follow a "U" shaped curve. Guys with no luck hate women. And guys who sleep around a lot have a low opinion of women (that they're easy, replaceable, dumb, cheaters, etc). In other words: both of the extremes have a low opinion of women, but it's a different type of criticism. That explanation seems to ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/25 05:43 PM |
| 0 | TV show Adolescence gets the pipeline completely wrongThere's a interesting recent podcast episode critiquing the "Adolescense" show: There’s a mystery of violence swirling in and amongst the kids these days. Especially boys. What could it be? Snapchat? Video games? Andrew Tate? A hit Netflix series points to issues, and policy. But is it pointing in the right direction? Today we’ll look at “Adolescence”: the origin story, the strengths and liabilities of its one-take technique, and its deceptively conservative messaging. Should it be shown in Parl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/25 05:16 PM |
| 9 | Older millennial women are turning to same-sex relationships while men are going back to church.I've definitely seen an increasing number of women in same-sex relationships. I don't think they're lesbian, but they are bisexual. And I also think women's standards for men are much higher than a woman's standards for women (for example, women don't require women to be tall), so if a woman is bisexual, it's easier for a woman to meet her standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 10:41 PM |
| 2 | Older millennial women are turning to same-sex relationships while men are going back to church.Also gay men vastly outnumber lesbian women The number of lesbians has been declining over time. However, the number of young women reporting that they are bisexual is skyrocketing - vastly outnumbering the number of gay men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 10:39 PM |
| 7 | Older millennial women are turning to same-sex relationships while men are going back to church.There's been a huge increase in bisexuality among young women. I don't believe this trend is a result of past repression. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 10:38 PM |
| 5 | Women are largely correct in complaining about the average quality of men as romantic partners.Lol. A few years ago, I got covid. I notified some friends (roughly the same number of male and female friends), especially anyone I had seen in the last week. Guess the breakdown of the male and female friends who offered to help if I needed anything (e.g. groceries, medicine, etc). It was two men and two women. Men and women were equally likely to offer help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/25 05:29 PM |
| 1 | Cold approaching is the answer to every man's problems when it comes to dating but most men don't want to put in the work it takes to get to the point of being able to do it.I've approached easily hundreds of women. The success rate is awful. Some women aren't interested (like giving minimal answers and acting like they could not have less interest in you) or have a boyfriend or whatever. Other women give you their number or instagram and then never reply when you message them. Some will send one or two message replies and then ghost. (The women you like most tend to do one of those previous things.) And then sometimes I'll get a woman out on a date, and she's not i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/25 04:01 AM |
| – | I've tried helping a few younger guys get dates, something is wrong here.I’m an older gen z girl, right in the middle of the age range you named. Every guy I know that wants a girlfriend or wife has one, and every guy that wants to be single is single... Your experience is wildly out of touch with the rest of the country. EDIT: Also, the gender ratios in South Carolina are not normal. In most parts of the state, there's not enough men, which would certainly affect the dating market. https://www.states101.com/gender-ratios/south-carolina | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/25 07:02 PM |
| 7 | What do you think of the Washington Post Op-Ed: "Why can't we hate men?"The sad truth is that Feminists must adopt a very careful approach to speaking to men about the horrors of being a woman. Sometimes lashing out has the exact opposite desired effect. It's not just about the horrors of being a woman. There's a problem with with general antipathy towards men by feminists. This is fueled by stories about how terrible men are or were in history towards women, but the result is a general dislike of the average guy and an expectation that the average guy owes them som… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/25 01:12 AM |
| 27 | CMV: Inter-sex Resentment Is Caused (at least in part) By How Both Sexes Have Irrational/Contradictory Desires For The OtherI don't think the desire for chaste women is anywhere near as strong as people on the internet think it is. The large majority of men don't expect or require that a woman is a virgin. They just don't want her number to be well into the double-digits. Also, men and women want to feel special. They want to be seen as special by their significant other. Sleeping with someone who hasn't slept around with every guy is a compliment to him - it says that she has high standards and he met them. What do … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/25 05:33 PM |
| 9 | A lot of men participate in casual misogyny and then turn around and get upset with casual misandry.I came to say the same thing: everyone does this. And it's not just about gender. It's about race, religion, politics, whatever. But those same people who mocked that other group get offended when their own group is mocked or attacked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/25 02:54 AM |
| 9 | One of women's biggest advantage: In-group biasI've said it before: the whole concept of "the patriarchy" serves to get women to work together against a common "enemy". It also reduces in-group competition ("we have to work together against a common enemy"). Destroying the concept of the patriarchy, or if society reaches a place where women no longer believe they are oppressed by "the patriarchy" (which will probably require a massive pro-female bias in society before feminists actually believe it is "equal"), will result in much of women's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/25 04:47 PM |
| 1 | Todays world is perfect for men"Men are not usually submissive in bed in general so it shouldn't even apply" Yes, it should apply, even if we're just talking about 25%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/25 03:19 AM |
| 18 | Men should stop lying about having low standardsLol. It's funny how many women responded to you saying something like "she probably more attractive than you realize" and "he's probably less attractive than you realize". It's weird that women would deny the massive imbalance in the dating market. I've seen the same thing. It's so obvious that dating is on easy mode for women and on hard mode for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/25 03:12 PM |
| 4 | Men should stop lying about having low standardsIt's more complicated than that. It's not as simple as there's one man for every woman, therefore dating is equal. If that argument worked, you could say the same thing about casual sex: "there's one man for every woman, therefore casual sex is equally easy for both" which is obviously a false statement. Overall, I'd say that men like women more than women like men. This unbalances the dating market even if the gender ratios are 1:1. Imagine that there's a room with 10 men and 10 women. Let's sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/25 03:09 PM |
| – | The real reason behind the male loneliness epidemic is that there are more happily single women than menNumber of friends for men and women, in 1990 vs 2021: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4uySPxXEAElPBM?format=jpg&name=large | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/25 04:01 AM |
| – | The real reason behind the male loneliness epidemic is that there are more happily single women than menI don't know that I buy it. According to surveys, 57% of teenage girls report "persistent feelings of sadness or hopelessness". Chart: https://eastxray.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/3-Persistent-Sad-Hopeless.jpeg Article: https://eastxray.com/2681/in-depth/in-depth-depression-in-teen-girls/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/25 03:58 AM |
| 18 | Silver divorces are more common among couples where women have health issues. Does your personal experience support this study's findings?There’s a video that looks at a bunch of these studies. They’re all over the place. Some of them found that divorce was more common when the man was sick. Others showed increased divorce regardless of which one was sick. Others showed a reduced chance of divorce for both genders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/25 07:33 PM |
| 4 | Marriage and kids benefit men more than women(Reposting this without links because it was shadow-banned, and maybe it was because of the links I included.) Paul Dolan, happiness expert and professor of behavioral science at the London School of Economics, says women who are single with no children tend to be the happiest. He explains that while marriage benefits men, the same cannot generally be said for women. (Psychology Today) This isn't actually true. Paul Dolan messed up the analysis because he misunderstood the data. Source: In his n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/25 06:43 PM |
| 3 | Dating Apps Will Never "Fix" Themselves—They’re Built to Make Sure Men StruggleWouldnt there be some kind of "fix" if men stopped bein simps and started swiping more selectively themselves Considering that there are more men than women on dating apps, that's a difficult thing to actually make happen. Because of gender-ratios, women will still have the upper hand. And because women have the upper-hand, men will be incentivized to "date down", and some men are going to take that option. Which puts us right back in the current situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/25 01:48 AM |
| 3 | CMV: "women are less likely to date bisexual men" is just an attempt to frame us as homophobicThat's not true at all. I've had bisexual girlfriends. I was not fantasizing or trying to get them into a threesome. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/25 11:39 PM |
| 1 | This is why women find most men unattractiveHe's talking about the OKCupid study, which men-rating-women did have a roughly bell-shaped distribution curve. https://www.threads.net/@sukumar/post/DExfE90Pccl | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/25 12:52 AM |
| 2 | Since ageing is inevitable - why are women still being pushed to marry and have children young?It's always a moving target, but it's currently at a 56% fail rate. Do you have a source for that? Because the numbers I've seen are lower than that. Estimates say 41% of first marriages will end in divorce As many as 60% of second marriages won’t make it Third marriages end in divorce 73% of the time Source: https://terryandrobertslaw.com/blog/divorce-rate-facts/ Also, there are things correlated with higher or lower divorce rates. Marrying young results in higher divorce rates. Women with coll… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/25 04:03 AM |
| 3 | There's really no proof that men love more unconditionally than womenA while back, I looked up people who died in mass shootings, trying to protect people. What I noticed is that it's almost always men. There was one case where a woman died trying to protect her students, so it wasn't all men. But it was very disproportionately men. They were teachers or other students at the school. In some cases - like the Aurora Movie Theater shooting - men were shielding their girlfriends. In other cases, teachers or students were protecting random people - whether barricadin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/25 11:58 PM |
| 4 | There's really no proof that men love more unconditionally than womenThere's been a lot of different studies done on this. Men aren't more likely to leave when their partner gets sick. There was one study in 2009 that said men were 6x more likely to leave, but no other studies have found anything like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/25 11:46 PM |
| 1 | There's really no proof that men love more unconditionally than womenThat's not actually true. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8iVWjrgizY | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/25 11:42 PM |
| 2 | I’m a man and I can see it. Why are women’s standards considered problematic and isnt it hypocritical for guys to complain about them ?There are fewer abusive men than is commonly imagined. Additionally, I know quite a few good guys who do have dating problems. And I can often figure out why they have dating problems - it's because of superficial traits they have and can't change - like balding or short. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/25 11:37 PM |
| 24 | I’m a man and I can see it. Why are women’s standards considered problematic and isnt it hypocritical for guys to complain about them ?Yeah, OP is a little confused because he seems to conflate two different things under the banner of "standards". There are standards that women use when deciding who they're attracted to (6 feet tall, etc), and they have standards for keeping themselves safe (which you mentioned). He's basically arguing "it makes sense that women only want to date a tall man, because they don't want to get murdered", which have nothing to do with each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/25 11:28 PM |
| 16 | I’m a man and I can see it. Why are women’s standards considered problematic and isnt it hypocritical for guys to complain about them ?I think maybe you think Michelle Brandes was a woman who killed a man she met online. Steven Gress and Michelle Brandes were both involved in the killing of Miranda Corsette. He's asking why Michelle's name was left out of the murder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/25 11:23 PM |
| – | CMV: The world would be a better place if males adapted to how women handle problemsNope, they get diagnosed more because they actually care to seek for help instead of doing something stupid When doing surveys of the general population, women do report having more depression problems. Example: Graph: https://eastxray.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/3-Persistent-Sad-Hopeless.jpeg Article: https://eastxray.com/2681/in-depth/in-depth-depression-in-teen-girls/#modal-photo Graph: https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/FT_19.07.09_TeenDepression_2.png Article: https:/… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/25 03:53 AM |
| 9 | As a bi woman, dating women is way harder than dating men.For instance, in one case it was noted that there were twice as many lesbian divorces as there were with gay men, without mentioning that twice as many lesbians were getting married, so this was absolutely not surprise at all. What study was that? Because every study I've seen about this talks about the divorce rate - which implicitly takes the marriage rate into account. Here's a place to start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce_of_same-sex_couples There's a section titled "Divorce rates". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/25 07:20 PM |
| 4 | "A woman's loyalty is tested when her man has nothing. A man's loyalty is tested when he has everything.""Study linking divorce to illness retracted due to error" https://www.today.com/health/study-linking-divorce-illness-retracted-due-error-2D79603843 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/21 08:13 AM |
| 23 | "A woman's loyalty is tested when her man has nothing. A man's loyalty is tested when he has everything."many. judging by the high number of men who abandon their wives when said ladies get sick/cancer. That study retracted. The researchers made a mistake when doing their calculations. We need to do more work shooting down claims based on that erroneous study. "Study linking divorce to illness retracted due to error" https://www.today.com/health/study-linking-divorce-illness-retracted-due-error-2D79603843 The sad thing is that this myth will continue to exist in the internet and will be repeated fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/21 08:10 AM |
| 39 | "A woman's loyalty is tested when her man has nothing. A man's loyalty is tested when he has everything."Aren't the statistics showing that women cheat as often as men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/21 08:01 AM |
| 13 | AskMen post discussionI agree that women do put in effort, but not in the initial stages of a relationship. But in the middle and later stages, yeah. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/21 04:04 PM |
| 4 | AskMen post discussionYour response didn't even really address the original post. You just talked about the first date, not paying much, and having an exit strategy. Those aren't the things that make dating hard. The original post was about romance more generally over the course of at least the first few months or years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/21 03:57 PM |
| 3 | As a man with low libido, my dating experience is way better than a normal man's.I'm sorry if I think this post is dumb. There is no sexual leverage Having a moderate libido or having a high libido is different from allowing yourself to be manipulated. They aren't mutually exclusive. I've turned down women who were pretty forward about being down for sex, but I don't have a low libido. I cannot be manipulated. First, there are other ways to manipulate people other than sex. Do you think that women with low libidos have never been manipulated in their entire lives? And, secon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/21 06:09 PM |
| 1 | What behaviors or habits scream low self-esteem?To have a habit (and not as a rare occassion) where you revert to instant gratification (porn, instagram, reddit, masturbation) the moment you are faced with negative feelings. I think this can also be a result of feeling overwhelmed and unhappy. | /r/seduction | 06/04/21 07:53 PM |
| 1 | Why most men in history did not reproduceThat's not the reason men had multiple wives. Also, that doesn't change the facts about whether women or men were more likely to procreate. If one man has four wives, it also means that three men had zero wives. Those are men who failed at procreation. Death in childbirth doesn't change the mathematics of whether men or women are likely to procreate. As far as the rate of death in childbirth, I'd imagine it was something similar to the worst maternal death rate in the world: which is Sierra Leon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/21 10:31 PM |
| 1 | A question for all these guys who constantly whine about women having high standards and never giving them a chance: Wouldn't you do the same thing if you were in a position of that woman or a high value man?This makes me think of the analogy to a rich factory owner. Yes, someone might argue "if you were a wealthy factory owner, wouldn't you also want to pay the minimum possible wage you could? Wouldn't you want to get your employees to work overtime? Wouldn't you want bad working conditions - so you could make as much profit as possible?" Even if someone said "yes, I'd do the same thing in that situation - I'd try to exploit the workers to make as much profit as possible". That still doesn't allow … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/21 06:14 AM |
| 1 | Why are seemingly all women bi?Some charts, in case anyone is curious: Showing the proportion of men/women in from 2008-2018 who said they were bi. There's a big increase among women. https://cdn.thegavoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/2.png And by age group - there's a big increase among young people: https://cdn.thegavoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/age.png And a big increase among black women: https://cdn.thegavoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/race.png I'd imagine is higher among urban than rural people, too. If y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/21 09:40 PM |
| 5 | Why are seemingly all women bi?There was a survey a few years ago where the results were that 2/3rds of women said they wouldn't date a man who dated men in the past. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/21 09:32 PM |
| 2 | [Q4All]How successful does one have to be to credibly give dating advice in your opinion?Below average and average men who are successful would give the best advice because most of their success would be based on their behavior instead of their looks. I guess that might be true, although I can think of lots of ways it would still be incorrect. If a guy is super funny, popular, rich, or whatever, then he might be successful for reasons that he might not understand or that would be difficult to reproduce (e.g. becoming the funniest guy in the room isn't easily replicated). Edit: I jus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/21 10:13 PM |
| 9 | Having a difficult time even justifying the effort of romance or dating.That seems overly harsh, although I do agree that online dating is much easier for women than men - at least in terms of getting likes and matches. Just before covid, I was at a bar, struck up a conversation with a woman who had just gotten done with a "boring" date (her words) from an online dating app. At some point, I mentioned I was on 3 dating apps. She looked at me surprised and said that would be exhausting - because she got 80 likes from men within the first two days that she created a p… | /r/seduction | 15/03/21 06:00 AM |
| 2 | Bad boys are part of the Nice Guy fantasy, not the female fantasy.Believe it or not, some people feel shitty for making other people feel bad. They can't simply change their morals and feelings the way someone changes their clothes. If I told you that you could be rich if you'd just steal an old retired woman's life savings, I bet a lot of people still wouldn't do it because they'd feel shitty about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/21 07:26 PM |
| 6 | "Being nice doesn't get you laid" and "Bullies have more sex partners" does not translate to "ALL WOMEN LOVE ASSHOLES! NICE GUYS FINISH LAST!"It's about more than that. Women are looking for subtle cues that he's a desirable man. This includes a number of traits, including preselection (do other women want him?). Over time, women notice that being an asshole is correlated with guys who have too many options with women, can treat women badly and get away with it (they'll still come back for more or there are a dozen other women that still want him), and treats her like he's too good for her (he can get better than her, therefore, she'l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/21 07:21 PM |
| 3 | There's more male virgins than female virgins, but there's also more male sluts than female sluts.I've heard that it's really hard to make friends there, and that everyone basically keeps to their prexisting groups of friends - which is why there's a big overlap between friends and fuck buddies. If that's the case, it sounds like it's be difficult to sleep around because every woman would basically be like "If we didn't meet in childhood, then I'm not getting to know you (not friends, not fuck buddies, no relationship)". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/21 08:55 PM |
| 3 | Seduction requires nothing but showing vulnerabilityHim: "To be honest, I'm kind of lazy. I don't like my job, and I mostly just play videogames with my free time. I know that not every girl is cool with that, but I think it's a pretty cool lifestyle." Victoria Secret model: "Wow, it's so refreshing to have a guy is so secure in himself." | /r/seduction | 23/02/21 08:09 PM |
| 1 | Women have more freedom than they’ve ever had in history, but they still choose to sell their bodies for incomeSo one of the negative externalities for men is that women are dropping out of the dating market for sugardaddies. As we bemoan the fact that money rules everything, we inch further and further to a world where money rules even more, even as income inequality grows. What a dystopia were creating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/21 02:15 AM |
| 3 | Women have more freedom than they’ve ever had in history, but they still choose to sell their bodies for incomeSame with drugs, right? It should be legal to sell heroin or opiates like oxycontin and fentanyl, the Pharma companies did nothing wrong. It's the users who should be locked up? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/21 01:50 AM |
| -1 | Women have more freedom than they’ve ever had in history, but they still choose to sell their bodies for incomeSo long as a profitable demand exists in the market, someone seeking profit who can supply, will. You speak about accountability but only complain about the suppliers, not the population who demands and pays for it. I wouldn’t blame fast food places for existing On the topic of illegal drugs (e.g. heroin, opiates), do you believe that sellers should be free to sell drugs, while users should be the ones punished? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/21 01:47 AM |
| 2 | Women have more freedom than they’ve ever had in history, but they still choose to sell their bodies for incomewe as a whole society tend to put the responsibility of gender identified issues mainly on women when both genders are collaboratively creating the “issue” or situation. That's BS because as a society we blame both. The current trend in society is to blame men for the ills of the world and paint women as victims of everything and therefore not held responsible for anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/21 01:44 AM |
| 4 | Women have more freedom than they’ve ever had in history, but they still choose to sell their bodies for incomeWhat do you mean, "as usual"? People put a lot of blame on Johns, and see them as disgusting. If you asked people "what do you think of guys who visit prostitutes" everyone would think badly of them. You will get put in jail for soliciting a prostitute. Police do stings to catch Johns and put them in jail. Not sure what world you live in. When it comes to drugs, we blame the seller, and not the buyer. Some countries have decriminalized being a buyer (e.g. having to go to rehab in you'rea drug us… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/21 01:41 AM |
| 2 | As the average American woman is 171lbs @ 5ft4 is wanting a slim girlfriend under 140lbs now considered "high standards?"Another example of "cannot handle the truth" I don't know that it's "guys can't handle the truth" so much as "look at these stupid preferences women have". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 01:37 AM |
| 5 | What's the average body count for men and women?This isn't a question that you're going to get a good answer to via some random forum on the internet. There's a lot of variation - some of that being rural vs urban, liberal vs conservative, religious vs non-religious, people who married young vs people who have never married. Heck, there's even a difference based on what generation you're asking (i.e. boomers vs hippy generation vs gen-x vs millennials). And your friends aren't a good indicator of anything. It actually reminds me of a story I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 03:04 AM |
| 0 | Hold up...isnt EVERYONE Hypergamous?In my opinion, saying someone is hypergamous is like saying someone is greedy. It exists on a continuum. At low levels, it's not a problem, and I wouldn't even call them "greedy". At high levels, it's a problem. You could say the same thing about greed: everyone is greedy - i.e. everyone wants more money. If you define greed that way, then yeah, virtually everyone is greedy. The thing is - whether someone's "greed" is a problem depends on things like "are they happy with what they have, or are t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 02:19 AM |
| 6 | Women bully each other into hypergamyNah. That's not true. This part reminded me of stories I'd heard from my female friends - and it happened when these women were in their late 20s. In one case, my friend started dating this guy who was overweight. Her friend (who she had also been in a sorority with), would make negative comments about him, and it seemed like she didn't think this guy was good enough for my friend. She seemed to be actively trying to get her to break things off with him. They (the two women) ended up not being f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/21 11:07 PM |
| 5 | "Watch what women do, don't listen to what they say" doesn't work because you're not observing women in general. You're observing the women you want and the men you envy.Yup. The first time I read her post, I was trying to figure out if she was providing an example of looking at a small sample of men and concluding things about men in general. In other words, doing the exact thing that she was complaining about men doing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/21 02:00 AM |
| 11 | MathBam! You just busted his whole argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 06:17 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Most women lack self awareness about their unearned privilege when it comes to sex, dating, relationships and socializing.No it doesn't because if men are 4x as likely to be murdered as women, then men should be 4x as afraid of being murdered as women. It shows that men experience a much more hostile world than women do, but women are still acting like they're so victimized while men's problems are trivial and stupid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 05:37 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Most women lack self awareness about their unearned privilege when it comes to sex, dating, relationships and socializing.Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them. I hate that quote. It's basically a justification for women to feel victimized by the world. The problem with the quote? The likelihood of a woman getting killed by a man is pretty slim. About 3000 women are murdered each year (compared to about 12000 men, about 4x the rate of women). About half of those women were murdered by their ex or significant other, so 1500 a year. There are 150 million women in the U… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 05:32 AM |
| 4 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaBeen in a lot of vaginas (/r/ihavesex) and its pretty rare that one is better than the other in terms of sensation, at least to me. I definitely wouldn't say that. They do feel different. There's some women I've been with that felt wayyy better than other women. And the woman can also be better or worse in bed. With some women, I've always had a great orgasm. With other women, it can be frustrating to try to reach orgasm, and when/if I orgasm, it's always a weak, disappointing orgasm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 05:45 PM |
| 5 | Men are approaching way less than people here thinkNot sure what that's supposed to prove. I'm one of those guys that does hit on women out in public. I've got plenty of positive attributes (good looking, smart, educated, fairly wealthy, etc). I haven't had any real horror stories about women turning me down, but the vast majority of women aren't interested in me, which is a pretty shitty experience to go for long stretches of time without even getting a date out of it. It can be downright exhausting to approach so many women and get so much dis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 12:58 AM |
| 5 | Men are approaching way less than people here thinkYou know that your argument is essentially "I've never been terrible to guys who have hit on me" and then concluded that "therefore other girls aren't terrible to guys who hit on them"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 12:52 AM |
| 1 | The Real World Doesn’t Care About Your Feelings About Birth ControlI actually agree with your opinion that it's better for society to pay for birth control. I think it prevents problems with unwanted pregnancy that lead to other problems (unwanted children often turn out badly and a disproportionate number ends up in the criminal justice system). But, merely saying that there's a cost savings might not be enough to convince someone. Generally speaking, all actions have multiple effects, and depending on how those effects play out, you might oppose the action. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/20 06:49 PM |
| 2 | Unlike men, women are exceptionally more likely to initiate contact with opposite sex individuals within the top percentile(s) of physical attractiveness in online datingThe online dating system wasn't a "match before you can message" system. This was based on data from 2003, back when anyone can send anyone a message. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/20 06:48 PM |
| 5 | Unlike men, women are exceptionally more likely to initiate contact with opposite sex individuals within the top percentile(s) of physical attractiveness in online datingNot sure what thinking badly about someone has to do with having something to prove. I also doubt mysogyny has any effect on a man's dating life, except maybe with very feminist women. It sort of feels like r/gatekeeping | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/20 05:36 PM |
| 3 | Is she “playing games” or is she not that interested?I'm a man, but I would be wary of accepting gifts if I knew that it's likely to lead to expectations of reciprocity in some way. Don't accept favors from people if it's going to result in expectations that the favor should be repaid. I wouldn't accept an offer of free drink from a gay guy or a woman (who I'm not interested in) who was looking to initiate something with me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/20 10:35 PM |
| 1 | The western world is actually the best and safest place for menSomeone could question the entire framing of your argument. One of the things conservatives in the US will say is that Black people have it better in the US than anywhere else in the world - particularly better than if they still lived in Africa. They then use that to claim that Black people shouldn't complain. They've got it soooo good here, right? Even if there are problems with racism, it's still better than elsewhere. Would you accept their argument? Personally, I don't buy that argument fro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/20 07:10 PM |
| 10 | Asking for consent is sexy, change my mind.A few years ago, I asked a woman I had known for a while about kissing her. She told me not to ask, that it was a mood killer. Different women are different. And some women think it's cringey and weak if a guy asks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/20 07:43 AM |
| 2 | Is the truth becoming politically incorrect or controversial?I think most guys wouldn't say "I like your friends cause she has a great ass", but they would say "I like your friend" or "Your friend is hot". None of those are incorrect, even if they leave out specific information. On the other hand, "she's a nice girl" or "i like her personality" are being intentionally deceptive and I really don't see guys stating it that way. Guys are pretty honest. It reminds me of that study they did where they asked men and women about the number of sexual partners the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/20 10:42 PM |
| 1 | Are the online dating profiles of men that much worse?Yeah, I've seen quite a few women's profiles with those group photo pictures, and some women have no pictures of just themselves. So you end up playing this weird game of "spot the one person who's in all of these photos". And god help you if they changed their hair color, hair length, or gained/lost significant weight between the photos. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/20 05:46 PM |
| 9 | Do you think misandry is rising in our society? Do you think that a lot of the hate out there makes a great deal of men feel ashamed of their masculinity?I don't think you succeeded in changing any men's minds because berating people makes them reflexively oppose whatever you're saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/20 08:58 AM |
| 0 | Why does TRP sphere celebrate bachelors but acts like being a spinster is the worst thing ever? (even RPW)Lol. The world likes the average woman more than the average man. I don't know how anyone could dispute that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/20 03:15 AM |
| 6 | Many mental disorders more negatively affect a man's fertility than a woman's (some to a significant extent)Not that surprising. Essentially what it tell us is that: If we want to be judgemental of women: "Women are more judgemental about men's flaws than men are about women's flaws." Or, if we want to be judgemental of men: "Women are more concerned about the genetic flaws they might pass into their children than men are, while men see pussy as so valuable that he'll overlook (more often than women will) the genetic problems he's setting his children up with." Or, if we want to complain about the lac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/20 03:28 AM |
| 3 | Many mental disorders more negatively affect a man's fertility than a woman's (some to a significant extent)But I'm curious why they seem to use the term "fertility" equivocally with "reproductive options/success". "fertility rate" (or " fertility ratio" in this case) is fairly common as a way to indicate the number of children in scientific literature, even though we normally think of it as "whether or not someone is capable of having children". For example, "fertility rate" is the number of children that someone has, and they use it to talk about the number of children a population has, on average, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/20 03:09 AM |
| 7 | Men go into tremendous detail to prove the wage gap is not real, yet overuse vague statistics for divorce stats against women. Why do you think the details for initiating divorce doesn't matter?The fact that lesbian marriages divorce at twice the rate of heterosexual marriages, and gay men have slightly lower rates of divorce than heterosexual marriages gives us a hint that it isn't as simple as "men are stupid and ruin their own marriages". My interpretation is that women are more difficult to please than men are, and therefore ruin their own marriages by being demanding and wanting things "just so". This isn't to say that there aren't shitty men who deserve to get divorced, but prete… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/20 05:58 AM |
| 1 | Female privilige≠pretty privilegeEpstein was paying lots of money for high powered lawyers. In some cases, he was getting some of the biggest, most expensive lawyers in the country to defend him. It was crazy how much legal firepower the guy had. At one point, he even gave a ton of money to a town where the police were looking into charging him. He was let off with a slap in the wrist. And there were some suggestions that he was somehow connected to the CIA. It's possible that either he had embarrassing videos of important poli… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/20 07:29 AM |
| 6 | Female privilige≠pretty privilegeI'm a little confused about your argument because you say "Don't get me wrong. Female privilige does exist." but later on you say it's really about attractive vs unattractive and rich vs poor. Female privilege does exist and it exists for unattractive and average women. And it's not just about lifting heavy boxes "because society perceives me as weak" (that quote makes it seem more like you're trying to pretend your privilege is really an obstacle, so I disagree with that framing). Studies of pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/20 06:33 AM |
| 2 | Do you honestly get annoyed when people say “looks don’t matter, personality matters more in men”?Of course mothers say it to their sons, lmao. I don't understand. You're replying to someone who posted a video of women on the street saying that personality matters more. But your counterargument is that only mothers are saying it to their sons? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/20 05:31 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Why isn't Jo Jorgensen the perfect candidate for American President?That's because the rich know that even they can't push forward a libertarian candidate when the two parties are defending their own turf. One of the (ultra wealthy) Koch Brothers (David Koch) actually did run for president in 1980 under the libertarian ticket. He got 1.1% of the vote. Since then they setup a bunch of think tanks (Cato Institute, Americans for Prosperity, etc) and other tools to influence politics in a libertarian direction. They were a major force behind the "Tea Party" movement… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/20 03:49 AM |
| 4 | Has your sex and romantic life improved as you've gotten older?I'm not going to answer the question because there's a glaring problem with your post. I think it's fair to simply ask how people's dating life has changed, but the unnecessary and additional claims you make in the last two sentences are pretty suspect. Okay. Let's take a look at this. Recently you said: I'm a solid 5 with no game and I do alright. In this thread, you also say: I know I'm a catch so I can have any woman I want. So you're a 5 with no game, but you can have any woman you want? Sou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/20 11:54 PM |
| 3 | Has your sex and romantic life improved as you've gotten older?He got laid twice in a month, and now he thinks he's the greatest man to ever live and women are bowing down at his feet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/20 05:21 PM |
| 5 | Q4W: Why isn't Jo Jorgensen the perfect candidate for American President?Because libertarianism is a poorly thought-out economic theory that's mainly just a justification for rich people to get more power by paying less in taxes and hobbling the government. These two things result in money being the main source of power, which is why the rich like it - it increases their own power. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/20 07:18 AM |
| 3 | WIC/etc is an effect not a causeCohabitation exists Not very many of those single mothers are cohabitating, though - not in the US. Only 25% of single mothers were actually cohabitating. The whole "cohabitating" idea is a red herring. The numbers: 21% of children are with a single mother. 4% with a single father. 7% with cohabitating parents. 21% is 3x larger than 7%. This means 75% of children in a "single mother or cohabitating parents" situation are actually with single moms. Source: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/20 07:06 AM |
| 2 | What do you guys think of the 'hypergamy movement'?Probably because marrying into money is a lot less work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 08:15 AM |
| 0 | What do you guys think of the 'hypergamy movement'?Huh? It's a while lot easier to marry into money than it is to go get an education and work the hours that makes you rich. Option #1: Marry into money. Option #2: Get lots of education (e.g spend years to become a doctor, and then a few years working 80 hour weeks as a resident) and then work lots of hours every week for the rest of your life to be rich. Yeah, option #2 is safer in that someone can't take it away from you. But option #1 is a hell of a lot less work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 08:12 AM |
| 12 | Why do so many men believe that women prefer partners that treat them bad.I feel the same about women. So rare for me to feel attraction for a woman. Even worse, the attractive ones seem to get so much attention that they are over privileged and stuck up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/20 08:53 PM |
| 1 | The cock carousal is awesome.Thanks, Albert. You've sold me on going gay. Edit: Alberto. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/20 08:07 AM |
| 1 | I'm an INCEL AMAIs it really a worse quality of life if you're getting laid there, though? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/20 12:56 AM |
| 0 | Is pr omiscuity between the sexes equal?He has 6 kids from 6 women. And possibly two more. Also, he doesn't seem to be doing a good job paying child support, as one of his baby momma's is suing him for not paying it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_(rapper) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/20 12:45 AM |
| 1 | Is female dating strategy just full of black women? Apparently it isThe problem is that quite a few black guys are chasing white, Hispanic, or Asian women. This skews the ratio of single black women to single black men, which disempowers black women. When you've got 10 single black women all competing for 7 single black men, they can treat black women badly and get away with it. You can try to come up with strategies to win at the dating game, but the playing field is fundamentally skewed. The only real solution I can see is that black women need to date outside… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/20 12:27 AM |
| 1 | Every MGTOW on PPDWow. It's been ages since I've seen Strindberg and Helium. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/20 12:15 AM |
| 1 | Why is the fact that abortion is a massive conflict of interest never talked about?Lol. You mean that everyone in each of the political parties isn't a one-issue voter based exclusively on the abortion issue? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/20 12:07 AM |
| 6 | 51% of men in the 18-29 age group are single compared to only 32% of women in that same age groupUh, no. The average age of first marriage has a two year gap between men and women. If a guy marries a significantly younger woman in his second marriage, that isn't included in that calculation at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/20 10:45 PM |
| 1 | There are three, and only three, sources of value in biological reproductionNone of these apply in modern western societies. Nah. You're describing why we reproduce. OP is describing who we reproduce with (more accurately, factors that influence why we choose the people we reproduce with). You're not even answering the same question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/20 04:48 PM |
| 0 | There are three, and only three, sources of value in biological reproductionProvisioning resources is a bit vague. In general, people assume it means men bringing resources to women and their children. Men also want women who will provide value in raising children. This is both for labor reasons (if he has to raise the children himself, it's more work for him) and benefits for the children (the children would be better off with two parents than one). If a woman has children with a man, but runs away, is incapable (e.g. alcohol or drug addiction), or refuses to do any wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/20 03:41 AM |
| 3 | Getting to the point on online datingWhat's wrong with a self esteem boost? In a vacuum? Nothing is wrong with it. If that's someone's only reason for being on a dating app, that is wasting people's time. No one is wasting men's time on dating apps because women don't owe anyone our time. "Women don't owe anyone our time" isn't wrong in general, but it is wrong to pretend you want something (Dating) when you're actually using it for something else (your own emotional benefit). It is wasting men's time. Also, if you submit job appli… | /r/seduction | 13/10/20 08:02 PM |
| 2 | Do you believe that the female sex drive is as high as the male sex drive on average?If that were true, we wouldn't expect women to take longer, in average, to cum than men. And quite a few women can't cum from piv sex. They need oral stimulation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/20 03:05 AM |
| 14 | Do you believe that the female sex drive is as high as the male sex drive on average?Makes me think of that This American Life episode all about testosterone: Act 1 - A man loses all his testosterone Act 2 - A FtM talks about getting large testosterone injections https://www.thisamericanlife.org/220/transcript | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/20 02:59 AM |
| 9 | Women are 1,000x more sensitive than men to economic status cues when rating attractivenessSo, if one day - if men ever start earning less than women (which I highly doubt will be coming anytime soon) - I hope men will chuck the numbers in their face with equal ignorance these feminists have displayed. Nah. That won't happen. The thing is, the people who talk about the gender wage gap also talk about the racial wage gap. They'll trot out numbers about how white men earn more than, say, black women or Hispanic women. But they ignore the fact that Asian men earn more than white men. It'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 12:14 AM |
| 3 | Popular fake news debunked : men leave sick wives, college educated women divorce 90% of the timeIf she was consistently biased, she'd also argue that "women who get sick for a reason. They lived unhealthy lives, were fat, didn't exercise, etc. Getting sick in the hospital was just "the last straw" for a man who was tired of her crappy lifestyle." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/20 06:02 PM |
| 1 | For those who have a tall preference, what does seeing a tall guy feel like to you?Ha ha. I guess that explains the username. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/20 01:15 AM |
| 2 | For those who have a tall preference, what does seeing a tall guy feel like to you?Eh. The word "subjective" has more to do with having unique, unpredictable, non-universal preferences, not about being the subject. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/20 01:09 AM |
| 2 | Why do some guys complain about women having it easy for being hot but then are the same people who give them attention online?I think women (particularly attractive women) have it easy. And I'm not talking about women that are social-media famous. I guess this makes me a complainer about how easy women have it. But I don't follow any instagram models or tiktokers. I never give likes to any woman online that I don't know personally. And even then, I don't give likes to any picture that looks like it's an attempt to harvest likes by showing off her body. So I'm an example of someone who thinks women have it easy, but not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/20 07:55 PM |
| 14 | Why do some guys complain about women having it easy for being hot but then are the same people who give them attention online?I don't buy it. Men go for women out-of-their league all the time, because they are in denial what league they are actually in. If you look at actual dating data, that's not true. I wish people would stop saying it. For example, in this paper, see table 4: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4043335/ This table shows that men are more likely than women to send a message to someone at our below their own level. Women were more likely than men to send messages to men above their level. Fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/20 07:43 PM |
| 1 | Why do most women lose the desire for sex after they have a child?I have to wonder how much selection bias there is in that. In general, I'd bet that women are more likely to write into an advice column. Women discuss relationships more often, and are more likely to solicit advice on relationship problems. And I'm guessing they'd be more likely to write a post about relationship problems like dead bedrooms. If that's true, then counting up the ratio of women who wrote posts and men who wrote posts would give you a skewed idea of the ratio of women and men in g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/20 08:44 AM |
| 1 | Why do most women lose the desire for sex after they have a child?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovulatory_shift_hypothesis#Meta-analyses I mean - the link you provided doesn't say that it was debunked. It says that researchers are arguing about it. Some on both sides. Full text: One meta-analysis and several reviews of the literature have been conducted on both published and unpublished data that support the claim of the ovulatory shift hypothesis that women experience changes in attraction preferences at high fertility.[3][33] However, another meta-analysis a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/20 08:32 AM |
| 1 | You guys are missing the whole point of FDS, the point of FDS is NOT to solely attract men. The strategy is to WEED out men they don’t want.Any time you slip up and don't do just the perfect thing to please her - LVM peace of shit. Makes me think of a line from a popular song right now: "I'm not one to stick around. One strike and you're out, baby. Don't care if I sound crazy" Arianna Grande No wonder people have a hard time finding anybody to marry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/20 01:20 AM |
| 1 | Why are so many Red Pillers anti-abortion, when banning abortion will probably force more men into marriage or child support?I agree. And this is why we should ban all safety devices. No seatbelts. No helmets for anything. Those little fuckers need to learn some ReSpOnSiBiLiTy! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/20 08:01 AM |
| 2 | Why do so many women now have children outside of marriage? Does it matter?Of children 18 and under right now, 65% are with married parents. 25% are with one parent. 7% are with parents who are cohabitating. Source: https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2018/04/25/the-changing-profile-of-unmarried-parents/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/20 04:59 PM |
| 2 | Why do so many women now have children outside of marriage? Does it matter?That's not how it is in the US. Of children 18 and under right now, 65% are with married parents. 25% are with one parent. 7% are with parents who are cohabitating. Source: https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2018/04/25/the-changing-profile-of-unmarried-parents/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/20 04:57 PM |
| 2 | Why do so many women now have children outside of marriage? Does it matter?Is there information available on how many of those unmarried parents are cohabitating? Yes. The answer is "not many". Of children 18 and under right now, 65% are with married parents. 25% are with one parent. 7% are with parents who are cohabitating. Source: https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2018/04/25/the-changing-profile-of-unmarried-parents/ (If you're wondering why the 65% number and the 40% number quoted by OP doesn't add up, it's because the 65% number is based on all children currently und… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/20 04:53 PM |
| 1 | Women dont want less sex than men. They want less sex with YOULol. Your study ( https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22552705/ ) said that testosterone didn't seem to be correlated with sexual desire in men, but you skip over this finding: "Men showed higher desire than women". So according to your study, men have higher sexual desire than women, but it's probably not because of testosterone - rather, some other factor is involved in explaining why "Men showed higher desire than women", which undermines your post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/20 07:09 PM |
| 1 | Women dont want less sex than men. They want less sex with YOUWhat's up, bros? Man, it's exhausting dealing with all these horny chics, amiright? I had two new hotties begging to join my rotation. And, i keep having to turn them away cause I've already got six chics already on rotation. Even worse, I'm all anxious because I haven't had sex in the last 24 hours because I accidentally stepped on my dick when I got out of bed yesterday. Man, if there's a God, he made it way too easy for men to accidentally step on their big dicks. It's always getting in my wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/20 06:47 PM |
| 2 | Women dont want less sex than men. They want less sex with YOUSpot the logical error: "I'm a tall woman. Neither of my past boyfriends were as tall as me. This proves that women are taller than men." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/20 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Women dont want less sex than men. They want less sex with YOUConsidering that your post is basically one big ad-hominem against any guy who disagrees with your argument, he's only fighting fire with fire. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/20 05:49 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: How often are you complimented for your looks?Female strangers. Never Male strangers Only gay men, and maybe only once a year. Female friends Rarely. Maybe once a year. Male friends Never Women you're sleeping with/dating. Frequently | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/20 06:49 PM |
| 3 | What do you of this thread? Women making fun of a poor guyFrom my experience women shit on “low value men” when those guys attempt to hit on them because in their minds it’s him signaling that he believe they are on the same level. It looks to me like they're complaining about a tinder bio, not a guy who is insulting them by hitting on them. The only thing he's doing "wrong" is looking bad and being on a dating app. As a side note, I'd be curious what these pictures look like. Nobody can see the picture unless they're logged into the website. Edit: Acc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/20 06:10 PM |
| 1 | Is there a gender difference when it comes to male and women and how they feel about compliments on appearance?because it inflates their ego. Yeash. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/20 03:52 AM |
| 1 | Do you think women's standards for men have become too high and their hypergamy has got out of control?I mean - is possible for both to be true at the same time. I.e. it's possible to have standards so high that you're unlikely to meet them and also manage to meet them out of luck. I could also say "don't gamble in casinos, it's a waste of money" and then when someone wins at the casino, they tell me that I was clearly wrong - even though it's true that gambling casinos are a bad strategy to get rich. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/20 05:25 PM |
| 3 | Higher N-Count = Better PartnersAre my views going to be dictated by studies form strangers I don't know? So, you want anecdotes from strangers you don't know, instead? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/20 01:48 AM |
| 1 | Does effortless dating work?Libertarian ... Basically if everyone does their thing and doesn't really do anything negative to other people, then everything works out just fine. I don't understand what that has to do with libertarianism. Libertarianism means the government isn't going to interfere. So if companies create a monopoly or colludes to fix prices and get rich by screwing over the general public in all kinds of different ways (monopolies, price fixing, polluting the air/land/water, selling products that kill peopl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/20 09:54 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men are far more into casual sex than females as noted by casual sexual outlet ratios with far more men than females1.Stds:Equal-Both groups have to worry about stds false. the vagina is more susceptible to STDs due to cum being left inside it and the simple mechanics of sex & presents worse symptoms in case of contracting one. Not sure if that's true. You have to take into account other factors, too. Because women get STDs from an STD positive person more easily than men, it results in more women than men having an STD. This means that the odds of a man accidently having sex with an STD positive woman is hig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 08:10 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men are far more into casual sex than females as noted by casual sexual outlet ratios with far more men than femalesThis one? https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-10.xls It shows the relationship of the victim to the perpetrator (see footnote 1 in the table). Victim to perpetrator profiles. Husband 119. Wife 519. Boyfriend 210 Girlfriend 531. So "119" under "husband" means that in 119 cases, the victim was the husband and the wife was the murderer. "519 wife" means that the wife was the victim in 519 cases and the husband was the murderer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 05:51 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men are far more into casual sex than females as noted by casual sexual outlet ratios with far more men than femalesI don't know who you're responding to because you're not agreeing or disagreeing with me. Did you respond to the wrong person? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 05:46 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Men are far more into casual sex than females as noted by casual sexual outlet ratios with far more men than femalesCan you post a source. The ncbi article you linked to is only an abstract and it contains no information that supports the conclusion that women will sleep with their friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 05:43 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Men are far more into casual sex than females as noted by casual sexual outlet ratios with far more men than femalesExcept that lesbian women also have lower sexual frequency and fewer sexual partners. This suggests that it's not about men. It's about her sex drive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 05:39 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men are far more into casual sex than females as noted by casual sexual outlet ratios with far more men than females70+% of women don't orgasm during PIV sex. That seems "overwhelming" to me personally. Where did you come up with the 70% number? Prof. Kontula found that in 2015, only 6 percent of women said that they always had an orgasm during penile-vaginal intercourse, 40 percent said they had an orgasm nearly always, 16 percent of women had an orgasm half the time, and 38 percent had one infrequently. A total of 14 percent of women under the age of 35 had never had an orgasm from intercourse. According to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 05:36 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Men are far more into casual sex than females as noted by casual sexual outlet ratios with far more men than femalesThere are roughly 15k homicides a year in the US and roughly 1,500 of the victims are women. Nope. You must've been looking at the statistics of women killed by their intimate partner. There were over 3,000 female homicide victims out of 15,000 homicides. The 1,500 number (which is 50% of 3,000) would be about the number of women killed by their intimate partner. You can verify what I'm saying here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicide_statistics_by_gender | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 09:13 AM |
| 7 | CMV: Men are far more into casual sex than females as noted by casual sexual outlet ratios with far more men than femalesYou're right to question the "38-40% of female homicides are from an intimate partner, 7% of male homicides are from an intimate partner." statistic based on the fact that male homicide victims are more common in general than female homicide victims. But the numbers you used "There are roughly 9x more male homicide victims than women homicide victims" is incorrect. In the US and in the world in general, 80% of homicide victims are men. That means there are 4x as many male homicide victims as fem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 09:06 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Men are far more into casual sex than females as noted by casual sexual outlet ratios with far more men than femalesoverwhelmingly do not orgasm through any various sexual encounter. The adjective "overwhelmingly" seems rather extreme. Women are conditioned from a young age to fear men (look up statistics regarding the percentage of women sexually assaulted by men), are shamed for their overt sexuality, and overwhelmingly do not orgasm through any various sexual encounter. Women masterbate less frequently than men, as well. It's not simply a function of seeing men as dangerous. Here's a chart: https://plutoni… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 08:59 AM |
| 7 | Women Should Demand That Their Husband Get A Paternity Test For Every Kid, She Should Pretend She Trusts Him, And She Should Refuse To Discuss Why She Wants ThisShe's intentionally being unreasonable in order to lampoon the viewpoint of paternity testing your own children. She won't acknowledge that they're vastly different situations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/20 04:11 AM |
| 5 | Women Should Demand That Their Husband Get A Paternity Test For Every Kid, She Should Pretend She Trusts Him, And She Should Refuse To Discuss Why She Wants Thissome study sprinkled with one or two stories of a guy who knew a guy who knew a guy, whose kid that he thought was his wasn’t. I hate the way you're framing that. I'm not one of those guys who thinks men are constantly being fooled into taking care of someone else's kid, or that universal paternity testing should be mandatory. False paternity is only around 2% as far as I can tell - which isn't high, but it's still 1 out of 50. But at least argue against the "universal paternity" viewpoint witho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/20 04:06 AM |
| 1 | CMV: looks are subjective in the same way taste in music is subjective - very littleDoes "trap" means "trans" in english? Bud this gets better and better hahaha. No. I think it goes back to the idea "you pickup a woman at a bar, take her home, and it turns out she's a man." It's like a trap, where you got fooled into something. That's my guess about the etymology of the word. I think it was also used as a slur against transvestites. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Trap | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/20 10:11 PM |
| 2 | CMV: looks are subjective in the same way taste in music is subjective - very littleI had to look him up to verify. His instagram is eckoyg. He's definitely not the way you describe him. He doesn't look like a chimpanzee. He basically looks like a bad-boy mixed with a boy band look. He's certainly not ugly. I wouldn't classify him as a "10" but whatever. He's above average in looks, particularly if you're into the latino features. He dances, he's famous, he has status, and lots of young girls love a young bad-boy / boy-band looking guy. He's about what I would expect from a 21 … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/20 07:41 PM |
| 1 | Does the idea of OnlyFans feel kind of unsettling to anyone else, especially in the context of growing male sexlessness?Yeah. They always take a cut. Camgirls (and camguys) typically get a 50% cut of what people pay. I expect that OnlyFans is probably taking somewhere between 30% and 50%, leaving the performer with 50-70% of the money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/20 08:09 PM |
| 2 | Does the idea of OnlyFans feel kind of unsettling to anyone else, especially in the context of growing male sexlessness?This probably deserves its own post, but a few months ago, I saw a YouTube video about men who spent money on OnlyFans. It's called "The Lonely Fans of OnlyFans". Thought it was interesting, and worth a watch. https://youtu.be/djMojvschs0 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/20 07:59 PM |
| 2 | What will be the societal changes as more and more women (and men) exit their fertile years with no children?To be more specific, these are: Poor countries. Sub-Saharan Africa has crazy high fertility rates. Some countries average over 7 children per woman. (This happens in both Christian and Islamic areas of sub-Saharan Africa.) Last I checked, the population in Sub-Saharan Africa is going to multiply by something like 4x by 2100, while many countries (like Italy, Japan, South Korea) will see their population cut in half. Cultures that put women in subservient gender roles and push having lots of babi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/20 03:48 AM |
| 1 | Are men really the gatekeepers of relationships?Pretty much every study done on the topic shows that men benefit more from marriage and family than women. Sources needed, of course. They do less child care And men provide more financial support. I don't know why people talk about how women spend more time doing child care and then ignore that he's paying big bucks for that child. Not sure what the latest number is, but I had read a long time ago that it costs about a quarter million dollars to raise a child. and men like being in a relationsh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/20 09:18 PM |
| 3 | Are men really the gatekeepers of relationships?Women are the gatekeepers of both. But they are in a stronger position when it comes to sex. The reason this is the case is because women have more options than men, men like women more than women liked men, and because women have higher standards about who's good enough to marry. Also, women often don't trust men, so he has to do more work to actually prove himself. If you were to look at it on an individual level, there are cases where the woman or the man is the gatekeeper of the relationship… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/20 12:27 AM |
| 1 | Are men really the gatekeepers of relationships?Therefore men control who women select. Yeah, but you're saying that men collectively control what women find attractive. The individual man is still under the control of billions of other men. That's still not a position of power. This is similar to the way that voters control who our politicians are, but an individual voter has essentially zero power. Also, men don't have total control over what women find attractive. There are some guys that seem to do well with women even though they don't r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/20 12:03 AM |
| 1 | Are men really the gatekeepers of relationships?Think about who does the proposing and who waits in hope for the proposal? I don't understand what that proves. Are you saying "men are the gatekeepers of relationships, and the fact that men propose to women is evidence for this"? Men approach women for sex, too. So does that mean men are the gatekeepers of sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/20 11:58 PM |
| 2 | CMV: "Looks" aren't something that people "offer" unless they actually worked for, or put in some considerable effort to obtain themWe don't choose male priorities. Men themselves put a high value on female youth and beauty, and as a direct result, many women do use it to our advantage; we are rewarded enormously for doing so. Men place high value on female beauty, but we are frequently degraded for possessing it, I'm not sure why you're talking like this is a "men" thing. Women reward men for being physically attractive, too. It's a human thing. That "hot convict" guy (Jeremy Meeks) was born that way. He still got plenty of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/20 04:41 PM |
| 2 | If men magically turned into women for a day, they'd do the same thing as us and deny casual sexNo. This is why attention from some men is worthless. Most men will not fuck anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/20 05:28 AM |
| 2 | How is FDS manupulative?That happens because, according to Models by Mark Manson, the men emotional investment in a relationship decreases after having sex, while women's increases. Can you wrote the passage? I don't recall reading that, although it's been a while. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/20 05:24 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women don't really want "good men"I was thinking the same thing when I read this post. Intermittent reinforcement is why gambling is addictive to people. It's also been shown to be more powerful than consistent rewards. Quite a few videogames use (or attempt to use) intermittent reinforcement to get players to keep playing. That's what loot boxes are all about. For example, on a continuous reinforcement schedule a mouse who pulls a lever would receive food (reinforcement) every single time it pulled the lever. On an intermittent… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/20 12:52 AM |
| 1 | Most women have guaranteed options in both sex and dating; a lesser proportion of men do in both areasDating studies have shown that men date-down more frequently than women - it's not a huge margin, but it's true. So, no, those complaints don't ring true. Although it is true that lowering one's standards will result in more dating options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/20 07:18 PM |
| 2 | Most women have guaranteed options in both sex and dating; a lesser proportion of men do in both areasFor the record there is no species of mammal (and then some) where this isn't the case. The next question should be: should we expect men to not complain about it? And more broadly: if someone is disadvantaged in the dating game for whatever reason (genetics, accident, poor childhood environment) should we tell them that "that's how it is, so suck it up and don't complain"? Also, I'm not sure if this is true among all mammals. Pair-bonding species (like some species of new world monkeys) tend to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/20 06:35 PM |
| 1 | A man's best chance at a sexually healthy relationship is one in which he is far more attractive than his partner.Get the fuck outta here with that BS. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/20 05:42 AM |
| 4 | Interesting information about commonly used statistics for work distribution between men and women, sexual slavery in the United States, domestic violence, sexual assault, and gender wage gapIt didn't help that Obama and other democrats have said in speeches that women make 77 cents on the dollar for every dollar a man makes for doing the same work. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/jan/29/barack-obama/barack-obama-state-union-says-women-make-77-cents-/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/20 12:58 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The manosphere greatly underestimates female-group preference and intra-male group aversionTo some degree, that's true in the sense that it's not going to make an ugly guy suddenly desirable. However, studies have shown that women find men more attractive if they tell these women that he's not single. (Yes, there were studies where they showed women various men and changed various attributes about him, and asked women about their desire to date him. Being taken was one variable that made him more desirable. The same study with men made showed no difference between single and taken wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/20 07:45 AM |
| 4 | Every Single PPD Woman Would Be an Incel if She Was a GuySo when nuns are celibate, what exactly is that supposed to mean now that we're changing all the definitions of words? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/19 09:01 PM |
| 10 | CMV: Being fuckzoned is worse than being friendzonedonce he makes a move on her, and she rejects him, he pulls away and the friendship dies out. So in a sense, the friendship never existed and he had her in the fuckzone Nah. You're just making that up in order to make women look like bigger victims. Sometimes you don't want to be around someone who rejected you. Sometimes it feels awkward to be around someone who turned you down. Sometimes it alters the friendship. Sometimes it pains you to see her with another guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/19 10:56 PM |
| 3 | [CMV] Porn and sexual repression lead to MTF and AutogynephiliaSome failed men (mistakenly) think that they’d be better off if they tried to be a woman Some men are better off as women - as long as they're dating men, and they're just interested in sex and having people make an effort to be with them. For that matter, gay men have a much easier time finding sex than straight men do (again, because they're dealing with male sexual partners). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 08:12 PM |
| 4 | Men need to stop putting down gold diggersIf you're 45, making $60k a year, and demand a 25 year old to be your life partner Filed under: shit that doesn't happen, but people on PPD think it does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 08:03 PM |
| 10 | Casual sex is easy to attain, yet at the same time it is hard to believe guys have casual sex?I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue here. At first, I thought you were arguing against the idea that men can get casual sex easily. Average guys that are groomed and have an interesting personality can get laid easily. No. Casual sex isn't that easy to obtain for men. The problem is that women: have high standards, don't want to look easy, often want a relationship (so they avoid guys who seem like they want to hookup), and most of the women a guy meets are likely to be in a relationsh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/18 10:33 PM |
| 4 | The manosphere is just a reaction to the massive female privilegeGive me a break. If the genders were reversed, and a guy's wife was murdered, and he said it's worse for him than his wife, everyone would accuse him of "making it all about him" and "look at this guy's staggering amounts self-centeredness". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/18 05:50 PM |
| 4 | The manosphere is just a reaction to the massive female privilegeAre we seriously going to argue this now? This is absurd. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/18 05:49 PM |
| 4 | The manosphere is just a reaction to the massive female privilegeTRPers are whining about female biological privilege now? Seriously? To be fair, I've heard feminists complain about male biological "privilege", too. For example, complaining about how they are more vulnerable (read: smaller, weaker) than men and how women can't walk around at night. I'm never sure how to respond or how to "fix" that because apparently, it's a "male privilege" unless they can get on muscle-building steroids or live in a society with zero crime. https://www.google.com/search?cli… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/18 05:46 PM |
| 3 | The manosphere is just a reaction to the massive female privilegeYou all know "women and children first", but this doesn't even have any basis in maritime law or customs. I doubt that. On the Titanic, one side of the ship was observing the "women and children first" rule. It's the reason that women were far more likely to survive the Titanic sinking than men were. Specifically, 75% of women on the Titanic survived. Only 19% of men on the Titanic survived. Source: http://www.icyousee.org/titanic.html | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/18 05:19 PM |
| 1 | I really don't like deadbeat dadsI think that's a dumb viewpoint. There are situations when non-parents should be speaking up for kids in bad situations. Do you really think that if some parent beats his kid that non-parents are supposed to keep their mouths shut? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/18 05:07 PM |
| 1 | Do you have an example of institutional or widespread sexism that is prevalent today?edit: here's an example. Fair point. I thought most of that "women did something dumb" stuff went out with 1950s sitcoms or Three's Company. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/18 12:34 AM |
| 3 | Do you have an example of institutional or widespread sexism that is prevalent today?i think being unable to fix things or failing at cooking have both long been jokes made at the expense of women. i see this more in things like sitcoms and tv shows I feel like those kinds of jokes at the expense of women haven't really been socially acceptable or common since the 1980s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/18 10:28 PM |
| 3 | Do you have an example of institutional or widespread sexism that is prevalent today?a local car commercial I think a lot of guys watching car commercials are going to see men as an authority on cars (especially trucks), since those men are stereotypically the authority on automobiles. But, I think there are more commercials sexist against men than women. It's generally considered acceptable to make men look like bumbling idiots. I remember a few years ago, there were a series of Wendy's commercials on the radio that always contrasted an intelligent woman with an idiot man (the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/18 09:00 PM |
| 9 | Why do we talk about sex like men are getting something, and women are giving something up?That percentage doesn't tell you how afraid you should be of it. You could also say, "Of people who are killed by bees, 100% of them die from killer bees". That doesn't tell you how afraid you should be of killer bees - obviously the likelihood of being killed by bees in the first place is part of the equation (just like the odds of getting murdered should be part of your equation, and women don't have high homicide victimization rates). The odds of winning the lottery in my state is 1 in 5.2 mi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/18 12:31 AM |
| 5 | Why do we talk about sex like men are getting something, and women are giving something up?My point is that the fear of murder is not in proportion to one's chances of being murdered. If I walked around being afraid of killer bees, black widow spiders, and sharks, it would be fearing something disproportionately to the chances that it would actually harm or kill me. We Fear the Wrong Things | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/18 12:23 AM |
| 8 | Why do we talk about sex like men are getting something, and women are giving something up?The odds of a woman being murdered is roughly the same as winning the jackpot in the state lottery. (And, no, I'm not making those numbers up.) When women spend time being worried about being murdered, it's not a reflection of a likely reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/18 08:47 PM |
| 9 | Why do we talk about sex like men are getting something, and women are giving something up?To women bad sex means ... possibly death. No, it doesn't. It’s like that Atwood quote that men fear women laughing at them, women fear men killing them. You mean that ridiculously hyperbolic quote which exaggerates women's problems and dismisses men's problems, so that men's problems (as usual) can be belittled and ignored? But anyways, sexual strategy is a social construct because human behavior is learned. No, because social behavior amplifies biological realities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/18 08:27 PM |
| 7 | Why do we talk about sex like men are getting something, and women are giving something up?eople were asked about toxic femininity, it was just another "bad things women do" post. When feminists talk about "toxic femininity", it means "terrible gender roles that are forced/indoctrinated on women that hurts them". (The victim narrative) When feminists talk about "toxic masculinity", they talk about all the terrible things men do to other people. (The oppressor narrative) You'll note in the example above ("Things like agreeableness to sex acts (consenting when the female doesn't truly w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/18 07:19 PM |
| 1 | More men marrying up: Reverse HypergamyI wonder how that affects the chances of divorce. http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article148558804.html | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/18 07:04 PM |
| 2 | [Discussion] We all agree that it's harder for guys to get casual sex, but is it harder to get a relationship too?So, if there are also male only scholarships, what's the issue? They're far less common than female-only scholarships. They're also much more controversial, and much more likely to be criticized or challenged in court - as indicated in the article. I also don't know a fuck ton about scholarships, but aren't they usually started by a person or foundation who decides "who" gets them? Yup, but if you can paint that person as sexist or racist (for example, if there was a white-only scholarship) then… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/18 10:18 PM |
| 3 | [Discussion] We all agree that it's harder for guys to get casual sex, but is it harder to get a relationship too?Getting a relationship is equally difficult for a guy and girl, because supply and demand approximately match. I feel like there are more complications than that. One could point out that: There are 105 boys born for every 100 girls. There's a high demand for 20-something and 30-something women, but the men tend to occupy a larger age-range. So, guys from 20-50 are all trying to get girls in the 20-39 range. That results in high competition for women in their prime. (Case in point: my last girlf… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/18 08:55 PM |
| 3 | [Discussion] We all agree that it's harder for guys to get casual sex, but is it harder to get a relationship too?If you ever hear a man say "I dont want to sleep around. I am looking for a serious relationship" it is ALMOST ALWAYS because they dont have the choice to sleep around and are trying to position themselves from a moral high ground because it's the only high ground they have. A fair point. It certainly sounds like me when I was younger and sucked with women. Although I wasn't looking for the moral high ground. I mostly just wanted to be done with the whole dating game because I wasn't good at it.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/18 07:26 PM |
| 4 | [Discussion] We all agree that it's harder for guys to get casual sex, but is it harder to get a relationship too?A lot of things on PPD are hyperbole. It's clear that women don't getting scholarships simply because they are women - they need other things, too. Although, I do think it's easier for them to get scholarships. Yes, there are scholarships specifically targeted towards women because there was a time when women were severely under-educated. Well, yes, but women and men started getting equal numbers of bachelor degrees back in the early 1980s (35 years ago!). Now, women are earning 58% of bachelor … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/18 07:19 PM |
| 1 | Your experiences with men/women are what causes your opinion of them, but your opinions aren’t true for all members of the opposite genderI have a different theory. I think a lot of the SMP/RMP has to do with the environment you're in. I grew up in a small midwestern town. There was a limited set of boys/girls in this environment. Women had more options than men did, but it was a limited set of people, so women's ability to "date up" was pretty limited. I felt like things were okay there for the most part. However, growing up, I was shy and quiet. This harmed me to some extent, although I did manage to get some girlfriends. After … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/18 05:57 PM |
| 8 | Do you feel more appealing to woman as you get older? [32yo male]I'm not sure that counts as "being more attractive at 45". It sounds more like "Here's some women who had very high standards who have, through many years of experience and a declining counter on their biological clock, have taken a second look at men they passed up". I know from dating apps that the most attractive women who match with me have kids. I understand why that's the case: they become less valuable in the dating market with more kids, so they're willing to give "lesser" guys a chance … | /r/seduction | 02/02/18 04:52 PM |
| 1 | Women want less sex in relationships because men don't put nearly as much effort into being sexually attractive.This is so ludicrous. Let's be honest - this is a rant that's disconnected from reality. For one thing, it exaggerates the efforts that women put into their appearance (e.g. "Women are literally saving for 100s of thousands of dollars in expensive and dangerous surgery to look attractive to the average man." - really? Hundreds of thousands of dollars in surgery? To look attractive to the average man? and "They are throwing up full meals in the toilet and not eating for weeks to be attractive to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/18 07:20 PM |
| 3 | Women want less sex in relationships because men don't put nearly as much effort into being sexually attractive.As a guy, I can absolutely tell you that it's 10x easier to get a guy who wants to sleep with me than finding a woman who does. It's stupid that people on here are pretending that it's all about men not caring about their appearance. I also have talked to enough gay men to know that they plenty of fat gay men get incredibly easy hookups on Grindr. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/18 06:49 PM |
| 1 | Women want less sex in relationships because men don't put nearly as much effort into being sexually attractive.https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/7tq3kd/women_want_less_sex_in_relationships_because_men/dtf9c4p/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/18 06:44 PM |
| -1 | Women want less sex in relationships because men don't put nearly as much effort into being sexually attractive.Many women like it Only a small subset of women will like it, and they tend to be in very specific subcultures - e.g. goth. so it requires (and demonstrates) a certain level of confidence, and a willingness to put time and effort into your appearance. Bizarro rationalization which simply isn't true in 99% of cases. Edit: Oh, look. An emo girl liked it. How predictable. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/7tq3kd/women_want_less_sex_in_relationships_because_men/dtf0pab/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/18 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Women want less sex in relationships because men don't put nearly as much effort into being sexually attractive.And by 100% correct, you must mean 0% correct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/18 06:36 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women Get More From Men than Men Get From WomenAlso, the fact that women tend to be much pickier on dating apps implies that women get less, since they aren't as desperate and can be choosier. I think that's mostly due to the fact that there are more men than women born into the world and the fact that women are highly valuable in the 18-35 age-range, and that men from 18-50 are fighting over that limited set of women. I also think that expectations play a big role in this. If I convinced group A that they should be earning $30,000/year out … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/18 07:10 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Women Get More From Men than Men Get From WomenThe biological investment is unequal so calling it a mutual benefit is stupid. Just to be clear: you are admitting that "Men get children from women which is to say the future." was exaggerating since you're not including the fact that women get the same benefit, now you're stepping back to a lesser claim that women invest more in producing children. Of course, you're also ignoring the fact that men are expected to earn money for the family. And a family's income is mostly controlled by women: "… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/18 07:06 PM |
| 7 | CMV: Women Get More From Men than Men Get From WomenNah. There's definitely a higher expectation for men in relationships. In general, it seems like women expect me to handle my own emotional problems, and act like her "rock". Meanwhile, I have to be sensitive and understanding of her emotional problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/18 06:59 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women Get More From Men than Men Get From WomenWhat you're saying is that women WANT more from an ideal man than what men want from an ideal woman, that doesn't mean they GET more from a man when they are in a relationship with him. Which probably results in women being resentful that she had to compromise more than he did. I can't help but think this is behind the fact that women initiate most divorces, and why lesbians divorce at twice the rate of everyone else. I know I've had my share of relationships where women seemed to be incapable o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/18 06:51 PM |
| 8 | Why can't women just tell guys what they want?If the guy wanted to do it then he would have done it on his own. This is such a non-sense justification. There are plenty of times when I have no preference or only a weak preference. If my girlfriend has a preference, I'm happy to take that into account. For example, if I don't have a preference for pizza or a burger, and she does, then I'm perfectly happy going with her preference. To say, "If the guy wanted to do it then he would have done it on his own" is BS, because I might pick pizza, an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/18 09:16 PM |
| 10 | Why can't women just tell guys what they want?I could've predicted how this conversation would go. One constant is that women don't like to see anything approaching criticism of the things they do. As a result, most of the upvoted comments (upvoted by women) will be comments which defend women's actions and turn it around on men (if women say what they want, men won't listen, men will get angry, men will resent you for having a preference, etc etc etc). It's annoying, but society and women will not let you criticize women. I can't fully ans… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/18 09:10 PM |
| 9 | Why can't women just tell guys what they want?Likewise, it would be a female fantasy to hear/see a man say/do everything she wants him to say/do without out her telling him (i.e., mind-reading powers). Just like a romance novel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/18 08:56 PM |
| 10 | Why can't women just tell guys what they want?I'll say what everyone else is thinking: this is bullshit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/18 08:53 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Would you date a man who is bi?[Not a woman, but] There was a Cosmo survey done a while back. Something like 65% of women who voted in their poll said they'd never date a guy who has dated other men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/18 05:21 PM |
| 1 | Porn addiction: how prevalent?He didn't say that he's not motivated for sex. He said it's less work for porn. I suppose it could get compared to restaurants. There are restaurants with good food. There are fast-food places with crappy food. People still go to fast food places because its: cheaper and faster. Restaurants take longer and cost more money. Porn is the fast-food option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 08:13 PM |
| 10 | Do men like female personalities?I feel like that's another example of "women are wonderful". If a guy says women are useless except for their vaginas, my first thought is that they've probably been screwed over by women. I think society would generally see this as sexism. By using the term "sexist" we put the blame on the men. If a woman says that men are useless except for their dicks, my first thought would be that they've probably been screwed over by men. I think most of society would agree, and place the blame on men for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 07:57 PM |
| 1 | Do men like female personalities?I suppose it would be a woman who's very into female relationships. Maybe women who encourage women. Oprah is kind of a "woman's woman". Women who are really into feminism. Women who succeed. It's weird to me how many women think Beyonce is great. I think maybe she's a "woman's woman". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 07:51 PM |
| 4 | Legalizing prostitution?Libertarians have never been big on caring about anyone (except themselves, of course). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/18 05:59 PM |
| 1 | Legalizing prostitution?those agencies are unconstitutional, imo You're not supposed to be arguing that they are constitutional or unconstitutional. That's a dumb argument because it's irrelevant legalistic nonsense. If you're a libertarian, you should be arguing that it's better that the government doesn't regulate it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/18 05:58 PM |
| 0 | Legalizing prostitution?I care about the fact that the government shouldn't be allowed to regulate private Commerce I think that's just a lazy libertarian response. I don't even think it's well thought out. I think it's an easy, lazy way to think about any marketplace. What could be easier and lazier than just having blanket statements like that? It saves you the effort of thinking through the pros and cons of different systems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/18 05:54 PM |
| 2 | The Sugar Boom - How To Survive The Coming Explosion Of Casual Mass Prostitution - The City BachelorI have a female friend in college who recently joined SA. She said quite a few of her friends in college do it. She even showed me pictures of one of her friends with that girl's sugar daddy (a decent-looking guy in his 40s, although that guy has way too many selfies on his instagram). Also, if even a small number of women avoid real-relationships in favor of sugar-baby relationships, it skews the dating market even worse against young men - it means that men will be fighting over an increasingl… | /r/becomeaman | 16/01/18 05:21 PM |
| 3 | The Sugar Boom - How To Survive The Coming Explosion Of Casual Mass Prostitution - The City Bachelor(1) I doubt it. The market for male prostitutes has never been strong. Most male prostitutes service male clients. A male sugar-baby is far more likely to be getting money from a gay older male than they are from a straight older female. (2) The demand for women is much higher than the demand for men. I've had enough experience with Tinder to know that women get 10x to 20x as much interest as a similarly attractive male. | /r/becomeaman | 16/01/18 05:20 PM |
| 4 | Why do people take issue with being in a relationship?As a guy, I know a lot of guys (women too) who think the idea of being in a relationship is terrible and that they are better off without a significant other. Personally, I don't see much of a problem with being in a relationship, especially if you connect with the person you're dating. It's possible I have more anxiety than a lot of other guys, but here's why I think this: [list of reasons] I was confused reading your post, because at first I thought you were listing reasons why guys might not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/18 06:43 PM |
| 14 | Dave Chappelle accurately describes the experience of being a woman in new Netflix special.So basically: "Men are doing shitty thing to get sex from women" - is to be treated as an accurate statement, even though it's only a subset of men that are doing creepy, shitty things to women. "Women are trying to get money from men" - is to be treated as totally unfair because only a subset of women are gold diggers. We should maintain some consistency here. (Not that I'm a guy who goes around complaining about gold-digging, but at least we can have some consistency. I get tired of statements… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 06:40 PM |
| 8 | Dave Chappelle accurately describes the experience of being a woman in new Netflix special.And on the flip side, the fact that you have 25K to begin with is pretty damn amazing; it certainly puts you in a much better position than all the poor people around you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 05:17 PM |
| 24 | Dave Chappelle accurately describes the experience of being a woman in new Netflix special.Reminds me of a post a while back - there was a blog post written by a woman talking about this, but also talked about the opposite side of it - the tremendous amount of rejection men have to go through. At least she expressed some sympathy about the shit that both sides have. One phrase that has been crossing my mind a lot lately is: "If a man wants to eat, he has to hunt"; by which I mean "If a man wants to date/have sex/etc, he has to do all the work while women don't". I don't like it. I don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/18 04:55 PM |
| 3 | Q4All: Why do so many men have such low self esteem about their looks or personality and what can we do to fix this?I'm not going to accuse you of lying, but I have a hard time believing this. There's actually another thread on reddit right now where a woman setup a dating profile and didn't even include a photo. She was still getting plenty of messages: From my experience I learned that women get a lot of messages and couldn't respond to all of them. I never put a picture on my profile, so my appearance doesn't have anything to do with all the messages. It makes me think that either: you didn't setup a datin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/18 09:06 PM |
| 3 | Yes, Complimenting Women Works and It Is AttractiveI generally agree with this. I also think that less attractive women are much more likely to accept a compliment on her appearance than an attractive woman. A less attractive woman is going to think, "Oh, thank you!" An attractive woman is more likely to think, "I hear this all the time. This guy likes me. Now I have to adjust my behavior according to whether I like him or if he's another guy I need to brush off." But when you're told something from authority, you're far more likely to believe i… | /r/seduction | 09/01/18 08:06 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Men arguing that women should pair with lower status men are a threat to the fitness of the human genome.I would agree with that if it went both ways. The reality seems to be that: Men are under much stronger selection pressure than women. There's no good reason for saying that (disproportionately) men, but not women, should bear the burden of improving the gene pool. If we decided that the bottom 50% of men and the bottom 50% of women were not fit to reproduce, there would at least be some gender equality here, and we could see the benefit to the gene pool. But, if we say that the bottom 30% of me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/18 07:00 PM |
| 2 | Do you know any example of chick lit/romance novel where the male character is the opposite of dominant?you can hardly find women interested in submissive partners whithin the BDSM community i can't speak to that community, being far, far outside of it, but from what i hear submissive men are fairly common. You're not even addressing the question. Yes, male submissives are common. He said that women interested in male submissives are rare. Those are two different things. BTW, I have heard of female doms who will get involved with male subs, but I've only heard of it in the context of him paying he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/18 10:38 PM |
| 18 | An alternative way to find girlsI joined a salsa class last summer. Too many men. In any given class, there were usually about twice as many men as women (often about 5 women to 9-10 men). I saw the same thing at a bar that had "salsa dancing night" a few years ago. Way too many men. I decided that the whole dance classes thing was too much of an open secret and the dance classes have gotten flooded with men looking for women. | /r/seduction | 03/01/18 05:19 PM |
| 1 | Why is homosexuality a taboo in many societies and cultures?Would you like a little more cheese with your whine? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/18 08:47 PM |
| 2 | Why is homosexuality a taboo in many societies and cultures?Because societies seek to make themselves stronger, and because the continuation of one's culture, national identity, religion, etc are the closest things that humans have to immortality. (See "Terror Management Theory"). Homosexuality doesn't lead to reproduction. A lack of reproduction leads to a decline in the number of children in the next generation, which leads to a weakening of the nation and culture (fewer soldiers, less dominate culture, etc). It's the same reason that women are sociali… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/18 08:36 PM |
| 2 | Women don't have "casual" sex. They just have sex when they feel aroused and enchanted enough.Put it this way, if some woman wanted you to wine and dine her for a month before sex, would you be game for it? I'm not sure what you're arguing here. If I didn't enjoy her company, but was physically attracted to her and wanted to sleep with her, there's a limit to how much time I'd spend with her to sleep with her. If she wants me to spend an hour or two, that's fine. If she wants to go on 10 dates first, then I'll just skip it and go somewhere else for a hookup, especially if I don't enjoy h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/17 05:55 PM |
| 1 | Hypergamy is a thing, but it's disappearing17:1 is about persistence of uniparental lineages I wouldn't take the 17:1 number completely seriously, but the fact that female uniparental lineages are soooo much more common than male uniparental lineages tells you that there was a lot of inequality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/17 05:44 PM |
| 3 | Hypergamy is a thing, but it's disappearingNo, men want sex more. Women want men more. Don't be ridiculous. Men want women more than women want men. However, women will certainly complain about it more. A man complaining about his luck with women is lowering his own SMV, so it's always in a man's interest to pretend he doesn't have dating problems; that everything is going great. All my male bachelor friends are very happy with their lives and have ample sex. Obviously your male bachelor friends are not typical, are lying, or you're exag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/17 05:40 PM |
| 3 | Hypergamy is a thing, but it's disappearingWomen aren't selecting feminine men. They're accepting feminine men. The preference is undisputed. That's not entirely true, though. I've seen studies about what women preferred in men. One thing they found was that in more economically equal countries (like Scandinavian countries), women has a weaker preference for male-typical attributes (muscles, big jaw, etc). In third-world countries, women had a much stronger desire for those male attributes. (I think you can see that play-out even in the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/17 05:34 PM |
| 5 | Women don't have "casual" sex. They just have sex when they feel aroused and enchanted enough.They are not more excited or validated based on how soon they can get a guy to have sex with him... how quick you can get laid is not built into what a female yearns for with sex and pleasure. Kind of a weird definition for casual sex. I'm a guy. I like casual sex. I don't like casual sex because I'm validated by getting a girl into bed quickly. It's because sex is a fun activity, even with women that I'm not looking for a relationship with. It's like - I like getting a massage. I don't necessar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/17 08:29 PM |
| 2 | A man politely compliments a feminist woman at a grocery store and, in an attempt to escalate and get her phone number, he asks if she has a boyfriend. How should she view this interaction?I expect that she wants something frome me (my help, a favor, money, company) - humans are selfish. There is such a thing as mutually beneficial relationships. Not everything is a zero-sum game where people are trying to gain something by taking something from you. Also what else would the guy want if he is asking if she has a boyfriend? Because sex is the only possible explanation for asking if a woman has a boyfriend / asking her out? Seems pretty obvious to me that he's hitting on her... if a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/17 09:25 PM |
| 0 | A man politely compliments a feminist woman at a grocery store and, in an attempt to escalate and get her phone number, he asks if she has a boyfriend. How should she view this interaction?Because people don't like being shamed, and it's important for society to combat this kind of nonsense by invalidating it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/17 06:32 PM |
| 1 | A man politely compliments a feminist woman at a grocery store and, in an attempt to escalate and get her phone number, he asks if she has a boyfriend. How should she view this interaction?Because when unreasonable people become the norm, it destroys society. We should police unreasonable viewpoints. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/17 06:30 PM |
| 7 | A man politely compliments a feminist woman at a grocery store and, in an attempt to escalate and get her phone number, he asks if she has a boyfriend. How should she view this interaction?I don't think the average woman would/ should feel flattared by it - it's just another man who wants sex Your comment just goes to prove my point that the way that we shame men in society is to make assumptions about wanting sex. Just goes to prove how we always assume the worst about men, meanwhile, the "women are wonderful" effect is in full force. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/17 06:29 PM |
| 2 | A man politely compliments a feminist woman at a grocery store and, in an attempt to escalate and get her phone number, he asks if she has a boyfriend. How should she view this interaction?There are definitely some crazy, high-strung feminists out there, though. I've even heard the argument that a wedding ring is a sign of ownership that a man has over a woman. (Of course, I'm betting that the same woman does not maintain consistency and claim that the wedding ring a man wears is a sign of his wife's ownership over him.) Example: Not long afterwards [of my engagement] a work colleague, who was fairly new to the company and barely knew me personally, asked me if I felt uncomfortabl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/17 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Please Explain: Men Hate Golddiggers and Career Women?If you have traits that made you rich and successful she’s probably attracted to those traits. At least that's what women and everyone else tells themselves so that they can maintain the illusion of "women are wonderful" even in cases where it is absent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/17 06:14 PM |
| 3 | Please Explain: Men Hate Golddiggers and Career Women?Who is this mysterious core being everyone keeps talking about? I can tell you what it's not: I am not my money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/17 06:13 PM |
| 1 | Please Explain: Men Hate Golddiggers and Career Women?I feel like this is a failed attempt at a "gotcha". I dislike career women because they are overly focused on their careers - climbing the corporate ladder, working long hours, pre-occupied with work even when she's not working. It's almost like she was only given love by her parents when she was high-achieving, and she's forever trying to chase that "high-achieving" high. As for gold-diggers, they don't love a man; they love his money. She'll bail if you run into financial problems. Her love is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/17 06:09 PM |
| 16 | CMV: Male cheating is worse and more hypocritical than female cheatingMost of them were cheated on once, probably because they were a massive loser at the time The bias inherent in this comment is why I have a hard time taking people on this subreddit seriously. So, men who get cheated on are probably massive losers. But, women who get cheated on ...? I can't imagine most people in society making the statement that women who get cheated on are "probably massive losers". That sounds like the kind of BS that only someone like Trump would say. But, we're supposed to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/17 06:11 PM |
| 4 | CMV: most are foreveralone due to not getting out enough.It's also not about missing verbal cues. The fact of the matter is that women are pickier than men. As a result, men face a lot more rejection than women do. The fact that men face more rejection is part of the problem, because it can destroy someone's self-confidence, which then compounds the problem. There was a speed-dating study a while ago where they talked about the number of "likes" (for lack of a better word) that each of the men and women received in the study. (After the end of the spe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/17 07:16 PM |
| 4 | If almost 4% of US fathers are victims of paternity fraud, isn't this a large scale abuse against men?What I understood is that they do allow testing, but it has to be part of a judicially relevant process. That means that mothers can force men to take a paternity test in an effort to make him pay child support. Basically it's for situations where a woman says, "He's the father and needs to pay child support." And the man says, "I'm not the father, and I shouldn't pay child support." The court steps in and forces a paternity test. If he's the father, then he's on the hook for child support. In o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 08:47 PM |
| 8 | If almost 4% of US fathers are victims of paternity fraud, isn't this a large scale abuse against men?Yup. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 05:40 PM |
| 2 | If almost 4% of US fathers are victims of paternity fraud, isn't this a large scale abuse against men?I think the "without her knowledge" could be tricky. I don't think there's any law against doing a paternity test on "your own child" -- at least not in the US. If you're the presumed father, then you have rights to make medical decisions for the child. It doesn't require consent from both parents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 05:39 PM |
| 3 | If almost 4% of US fathers are victims of paternity fraud, isn't this a large scale abuse against men?I don't even understand your argument. You're arguing that it's not a problem that needs fixing unless it's systemic? There are lots of crimes that aren't "systemic". That doesn't mean we ignore them. There's also the fact that sexual harassment is a little different than the burden of child support and labor for 18 years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 05:36 PM |
| 12 | If almost 4% of US fathers are victims of paternity fraud, isn't this a large scale abuse against men?Yeah, that'll happen. [/sarcasm] There are two big obstacles to this: Who's going to pay for it? The government (through tax dollars)? Insurance companies? The presumed parents? How much controversy will it generate? Some people will want to "let sleeping dogs lie" by not telling the "fathers", will want to "keep families together" by not telling the "fathers", and women's rights advocates looking to maximize female control. (The "keep the families together" argument reminds me of when the US go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 05:29 PM |
| 1 | Who are the real romantics?I think women are practical romantics, and men are more fantasy romantics. A lot of men get caught up in the idea of "the one," the perfect family, etc. Some of the biggest players I've met IRL are players because they refuse to compromise their romantic fantasy for a woman who doesn't measure up - so they Chad around while continuing their unending quest to find their perfect Playboy Bunny / Mensa member. I don't buy that. I know quite a few men and women, and it always seems like it's the wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/17 07:31 PM |
| 6 | What's the deal with Elon Musk?I looked up Elon Musk because of this post. In one article, his first wife talks about how he was always trying to get her to change her hair color to a brighter blonde. "And no matter how many highlights I got, Elon pushed me to be blonder. "Go platinum," he kept saying, and I kept refusing." http://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/a5380/millionaire-starter-wife/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/17 09:34 PM |
| 4 | What's with this sub and chest beating, self-congratulatory circle jerks and dumb gotcha trap questions?I'm pretty sure median and average are the almost exactly same in this context, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/17 08:03 PM |
| 1 | [Question for RP] How many of you believe in evolutionary psychology? How many of you don't believe in it at all or prefer to take it with a grain of salt? why?Perhaps they lack a more specific term for it, so they use the overly general term "tiredness". There are a lot of situations like this. We also have lots of infrequently used terms for different emotions, but we use general terms (e.g. "anger") for something that could have a more nuanced name (e.g. "indignant", "furibund", "irate", etc). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/17 05:48 PM |
| 0 | Q4Men: Why do men say money doesn’t matter to them?Trollin' trollin' trollin'. Keep those doggies trollin'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Why do men say money doesn’t matter to them?There's a tendency for some women on PPD to try to paint men in a bad light. I think they feel personally offended by some of the things that guys say about women, so they're looking to attack men in retribution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 11:26 PM |
| 6 | Q4Men: Why do men say money doesn’t matter to them?What? Sorry, you're wrong. I don't really care how much money a woman earns. Here's the thing: I don't want to date/marry a woman who just wants to leech off me because she's too lazy to work. However, if she's at home raising the kids, I don't care whether or not she works. I can point to specific girls in the past to illustrate this: Girl #1. I never dated her. She lived in my building and we'd occasionally hookup. After a while, it became clear that she had a hard time holding down a job. She… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 11:18 PM |
| 0 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?Women on here who think men are more negative than positive are “trolls” whereas men on here who think the same thing about women are “just being realistic.” Guys who walk around complaining endlessly about women are also trolls. The only reason you're saying any different to to play the victim and complain about double-standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 06:11 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: What do you think about Tinder?I think it got worse because women started abandoning it. I know a lot of women who tried tinder for a week or two and then removed it. (Their profiles also stay active unless they go and actually delete their account. Which means you might be looking at profiles of people who deleted the app months ago.) This results in a problem where there are more men than women on Tinder (like this), which results in women becoming extremely picky, which means that: Men have a harder time getting matches Me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/17 09:06 PM |
| 3 | Q4Men: What do you think about Tinder?(I assume that if you have high SMV you won't get rejected.) Nope. There's lots of evidence that high SMV men get rejected all the time. For example, this video where they created fake Tinder profiles of a male model and a female model. The male model is only getting 27% match rates. I bet a lot of those matches also wouldn't respond if he messaged them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY8rzo4Ik4M | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/17 08:57 PM |
| 1 | Q4WOMEN: What do you want in a male partner?not friends with women What? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/17 05:20 PM |
| 1 | Social Stress Testing: Shit Tests -- with bonus Christmas AnalogyFTFY: Yeah that definitely happens between immature, idiot guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 11:23 PM |
| 1 | Social Stress Testing: Shit Tests -- with bonus Christmas Analogy... doesn't pretty much everyone shake gifts around? No. I never shake the gifts. i'm pretty sure he jokingly picked up the box and shook it a little, even. Jokingly shaking the gifts around is making a joke, because that's seen as a stereotypical thing that people do (whether or not they actually do it in real life). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 11:20 PM |
| 3 | Which gender do you think is the most dominant “enforcer” of monogamy?Definitely men, the whole purpose of the patriarchy was to socially enforce it to reduce competition for mates to increase co-operation in order to advance as a society. You don't think that impoverished single motherhood is a terribly shitty way to go through life? Sorry, but there's plenty of benefits for women, too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 10:10 PM |
| 1 | Which gender do you think is the most dominant “enforcer” of monogamy?Yeesh. Nobody has yet mentioned the fact that a single woman trying to raise a bunch of kids, and earn enough money to survive and feed them is a complete shit-show at any time in history until the last 50 years? There's a lot of different factors to evaluate in answering this question, but these answers are all pretty shallow. I'm not going to bother going through all these factors, especially for a post that's not near the top of the page. But the fact of the matter is that impoverished single… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 10:09 PM |
| 3 | If RP works, then why do so many RP men here complain about the dating scene?I'm not really RedPill, but it's obvious that knowing it and pulling it off are two different things. If I told you that being really, really funny allows you to get the hottest women (and let's assume it's true), it still doesn't mean you can consistently pull-off being really, really funny all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/17 07:03 PM |
| 4 | Man swipes right on 200,000 women with no successGuy uses fuck-app to find serious relationship A lot of girls on Tinder are not using it as a fuck-app. Maybe there are plenty of guys trying to use it that way, but the way that guys are using it is largely irrelevant since he's a guy looking for girls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/17 11:13 PM |
| 16 | Man swipes right on 200,000 women with no successThe men they consider men do have infinite choice. Maybe they think men do, but they don't. I remember one Tinder experiment a while back - they created two fake profiles. One was a male model and the other was a female model. They right-swiped on 1000 people. The female model got way more matches than the male model did. I think the male model was only around 25% match rate. The reality is that the dating market is skewed heavily in favor of women. Women might think that a hot guy has as many o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/17 10:22 PM |
| 3 | Why is it so hard for our society to deal with the fact that sex can have a transactional nature?Oh, give me a break. You know exactly what you're doing. How do you think it would sound if you said, "Especially after seeing the pictures of the Jewish man physically throwing her into his limo, while she grimaces." (and Weinstein is Jewish, not that you would ever point that out) or if you described the Bill Cosby thing as "We found out about that Black man drugging and raping girls". It would sound rampantly racist - as if somebody had an ulterior motive to disparage Jewish and Black men - t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/17 04:51 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Patriarchy theories are simply projection by women.The number of women marrying far above their station would have been few. Oh, you're changing it to "far above their station" now to avoid being wrong? Women could do little to change their place in society. A large percentage of men, however,... Somehow, the poor people of the Middle Ages disagree with you. Not sure who to believe. Someone who existed at the time, or an armchair commentator in the 21st century with a point of view to promote. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 10:55 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Patriarchy theories are simply projection by women.and it does tend to be primarily men in the case of rape specifically Maybe. Maybe not. I think there are quite a few women who sweep that under the rug, too, they just might not be so vocal about it. Example: http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/rape-study-shows-female-dominated-juries-dont-convict-58929.html | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 09:32 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Patriarchy theories are simply projection by women.Men of the past weren't oppressed by gender and they had much more ability to rise up and become 'someone'. At the very least, they could at least work and support themselves and a family. In the Middle Ages, poor families preferred to have daughters (instead of sons). The reason was because women could marry up into a higher social class. Men were pretty much stuck where they were. It was only the upper classes that preferred sons (because men could retain their high status). This idea that men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 07:32 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Patriarchy theories are simply projection by women.Men won't defend men as a group? You ever been to a thread about rape accusations or sexual assault? It's literally just dudes saying, "She's probably lying." Statistically, women are more likely to disbelieve another woman who says she was raped. There was a study done a while back showing that women jurors were less likely to convict an accused rapist. Here's one source for that: http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/rape-study-shows-female-dominated-juries-dont-convict-58929.html | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 06:43 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Patriarchy theories are simply projection by women.ever heard of Jerry Sandusky? Harvey Weinstein? Roy Moore? Louis C. K.? Kevin Spacey? you really think their actions were super secret and the people in their respective circles had no idea before they were news? lmao. KrispyMcSockington is right. It wasn't men in general who were protecting these guys. In these cases it was people close to them who either feared what might happen to themselves if they spoke out (e.g. an actor/actress who feared for their career if they spoke up), or people in r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 06:34 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Sexual liberation benefits everyoneYou posted a link to the romanticism artistic movement as a rebuttal to that video? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 06:22 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Sexual liberation benefits everyoneThey will only disappear if women no longer need, or think they need, a male partner for social and financial support, which would then prevent men from being chosen purely as providers. What? Surely you must know that this is wrong. If any person A makes more money than person B in society, or if person B dislikes working and wants someone else to earn money which they can live off-of, then there will always be a potential for person B to seek-out a beta bux. A few years ago, I remember a girl … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 06:10 PM |
| 1 | The OkCupid data does not reflect reality.I'm unclear on your point. You compare female attraction to men with video games. I'm unsure what to conclude about that. Should I conclude that video-game desirability / trendiness is also completely out of whack? I don't think too many people would have a problem with that conclusion. Also, if female preferences are normal or expected, then I had to wonder why don't we see the same shaped curve with men being attracted to women? When it comes down to actually choosing targets, men choose the m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 09:02 PM |
| 1 | The More Evolved a Socioeconomic the More Dominant Betas AreThere may be some data to support this view. I remember listening to a Robert Sapolsky lecture (professor of Stanford) on human behavior, and in one of his lectures (maybe the one linked below, maybe a different one) he made a comment about how socioeconomic status was connected to female preferences in men. In particular, Swedish women tended to prefer males who had the weakest secondary sexual characteristics. Meanwhile, in societies with low income, the women preferred men with strong seconda… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/17 10:19 PM |
| 9 | Thoughts on this?“They focused on the importance of the equality between men and women as a core component of female pleasure. Some even argued that men need to share housework and child rearing, otherwise there would be no good sex.” Wasn't there an article that came out a few years ago showing that egalitarian couples had the least sex? I remember that article saying that couples with the most sex had more traditional/conservative roles in the relationship (e.g. women did the housework, men did the lawn-care a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/17 11:43 PM |
| 1 | Do unemployed/underemployed men have it harder to be respected than unemployed/underemployed women? If so doesn't that explain what feminists call a "patriarchy"?women they don't respect Seems like an extreme way to frame it, since it sounds like you're accusing them of dis-respecting these women. I'd say it more as "For men, a woman having a job plays a smaller role in building respect than it does for women." I would also say that women have the upper-hand in the dating market, and that leads to them being more choosy about men than men are about women. When you're poor, you're less picky about the quality of the food you're getting; you're happy to ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/17 05:31 PM |
| 1 | Why are men out of touch with what women want.What? Obstacle #1: Getting friends who do well with women. (It's kind of like saying, "Just get in with the popular kids!") Obstacle #2: Don't be discouraged when they're doing well and you aren't getting the same results. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/17 04:54 PM |
| 13 | What are your experiences with women who are voluntarily childless?My experience with women who are voluntarily childless is that they get all the female privilege of being a woman in the dating market, but none of the problems/pressure of finding the "right man" and "her soulmate" in time to have children. They're basically on the top of the dating hierarchy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/17 07:31 PM |
| 5 | Only unsuccessful men think that women's attractiveness is all physical looksdismiss shitty behavior if a bitch is hot. That's also true of women dismissing men's shitty behavior if he's hot. Of course, it doesn't mean that either of them have an unlimited capacity for putting up with shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/17 07:16 PM |
| 2 | Only unsuccessful men think that women's attractiveness is all physical looksI don't believe that anybody actually believes that a woman's looks are the only thing that matters. It's obvious from the "Manic Pixie Dream Girl" that it's more than just physical appearance. I think TRP would be much happier with a girl who does lots of great things (like cooking great dinners, is interested in sex) than a girl who's a nightmare to be around (self-centered, cheats, lies, etc). I don't think this CMV is actually shooting-down anyone's actual views (which is different from what… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/17 07:14 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men want to feel sexy toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1ZJiBHh-Yw | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/17 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Are women actually accounting for make-up/style when they rate themselves as more attractive than men?If you actually read the whole study, you'll realize that men messaged the top women while women messaged guys they rated as a 2. No, they didn't. The messaging patterns are quite similar. The author of the article was putting a "women are wonderful" spin on it. Looking at the data, it's clear that it doesn't support that claim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/17 06:26 PM |
| 1 | Are women actually accounting for make-up/style when they rate themselves as more attractive than men?Except that's wrong because they reproduced the same results using random photos of men on social media. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/17 05:48 PM |
| 2 | Are women actually accounting for make-up/style when they rate themselves as more attractive than men?Except that's wrong because they reproduced the same results using random photos of men on social media. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/17 05:48 PM |
| 2 | Are women actually accounting for make-up/style when they rate themselves as more attractive than men?Textbook example of "confounded data". They verified the same results by using random photos of men on social media. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/17 05:48 PM |
| 1 | Are women actually accounting for make-up/style when they rate themselves as more attractive than men?80% of men on OKCupid in the middle of an obesity epidemic. Source: Pulling facts out of one's a**. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/17 05:47 PM |
| 1 | Are women actually accounting for make-up/style when they rate themselves as more attractive than men?It is not a scientific source, which might be why it's off. I believe that okcupid based this study on its quick match feature, which used to allow you to see a guy's photos and a few lines from his profile. They verified the same results using pictures of random men on social media (Facebook, I believe). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/17 05:45 PM |
| 1 | Are women actually accounting for make-up/style when they rate themselves as more attractive than men?You aren't competing against woman so it doesn't matter that the average rating for women is higher than the average rating for men. What matters is where you stand in relation to other men. No. That's wrong. You are competing on an absolute level of attractiveness, as well. There are plenty of women who aren't attracted to the guys who are attracted to them, so they choose to stay single "because there aren't any good/attractive guys out there". If a dozen women were stuck on an island with a d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/17 05:22 PM |
| 1 | The assertion that men can easily live without sex and romance is not validReminds me of this: https://www.sharecare.com/health/kids-teens-health/lack-of-touch-failure-thrive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/17 05:49 PM |
| 2 | [Shower thought] When a man achieves a college degree, his dating pool increases. However, when a woman does it, hers shrinks.http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/why-not-both-animated-gif-7.gif | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/17 05:43 PM |
| 2 | [Shower thought] When a man achieves a college degree, his dating pool increases. However, when a woman does it, hers shrinks.Reminds me of an article I read a while back. A bunch of male MIT students were standing around talking about their dating options. They started thinking about the number of women that existed in the Boston area that would fit their criteria: single, within their age-range, educated, etc. Their female professor walked in. She was the head of her department at MIT. She said one of her requirements was that the man that she dates is more intelligent than her. The journalist pointed out (quite righ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/17 05:41 PM |
| 11 | The assertion that men can easily live without sex and romance is not validYup. If you want to frame men as the bad guy, just throw around "wants/demands sex" as the impetus for his actions. Both men and women do this to vilify men - this method of vilification is rampant: e.g. "He just wants sex", "Nice guys think if they insert enough 'nice' tokens they'll get sex", etc. It also sends the implicit message that male sexuality is bad and disgusting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/17 05:31 PM |
| 1 | "Game" doesn't really work.But casinos are stupid My comment was from the perspective of casinos, not from the perspective of the players. If a casino wins 51% of the time, and allows the player to win 49% of the time, it works out well for the casino. They don't need a 100% success rate to be "successful". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/17 05:07 PM |
| 1 | What women want in their romantic relationships with men.She's a 20 year old singer/songwriter who seems to understand more about her sexuality and wants than I surely did at her age. I should point out that singers often don't write their own songs. Even big stars outsource the songwriting to other people, while focusing on their core strength: being a singer and front-person. Example: http://nypost.com/2015/10/04/your-favorite-song-on-the-radio-was-probably-written-by-these-two/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/17 09:58 PM |
| 1 | Discuss the notion that men see sex as a "conquest"Men have basically stopped improving since the 1970's. https://www.brookings.edu/research/trends-reduced-earnings-for-men-in-america/ You're using information about earnings trends to conclude that men have stopped improving? (As if earnings are a reliable measure for something as broad as "improving". Further, there's been a solid increase in the number of men getting higher education over the past 50 years. I count that as "improving" -- although the rate that women have been getting degrees h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/17 08:21 PM |
| 4 | "Game" doesn't really work.Let's put it this way: If you were to buy a car, a luxurious fast car like a Ferrari or a Lexus, but with the "drawback" that the car would not start in 95-99% of the times, would you buy it? What a stupid analogy. You can't compare situation A and situation B. If we really believed that totally different situations are comparable like that, we could come up with all kinds of stupid conclusions. There are situations where you "good" means 100% or near 100% success rates, and there are situations… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/17 05:41 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Evo-psych needs to be based on facts and not on feelings.Of course they were. /s https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/17 07:17 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Evo-psych needs to be based on facts and not on feelings.Yup. I would've written a comment to him, but you pretty much nailed it. I would add that I've read "The Ethical Slut". There's a whole chapter (the second-longest in the whole book!) that talks about jealousy and how, even the authors of the book constantly struggle with jealously, and ways that they try to distract themselves when their partner is on a date with someone else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/17 07:12 PM |
| 3 | (CMV) It’s a man’s world: The Dating ApocalypseNah. The hierarchy is: Hot women > hot men > average women > average men > ugly women > ugly men The thing that makes dating hard for women is the long list of requirements they have for men. Women see their requirements as "just having standards" and can't figure out why they can't get guys who measure up to all of them, perceiving this as "dating is hard for women". Meanwhile, men are getting rejected left and right and being told that they have the upper-hand in dating (they don't, unless the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/17 04:45 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Evo-psych needs to be based on facts and not on feelings.Yes you said that, but anthropological data shows that this isn't universal. The fact that something isn't universal doesn't prove anything. There are multiple influences: genetic, society, personal variation. It's possible for society to counter-act genetic programming. You could also argue that the existence of suicide proves that humans have no innate (genetic) drive for self-preservation. You'd also be wrong. You can't prove that there is no genetic influence for something by simply saying, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/17 04:31 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Evo-psych needs to be based on facts and not on feelings.So how do you account for hundreds of hunter-gatherer tribes who don't have a bias against sloots? You should provide a source for that, not just make an assertion. There's also plenty of misinformation about this (and the misinformation is designed to push forward a particular narrative). For example, Sex at Dawn is pretty heavily criticized by anthropologists for not telling the truth about these societies. In hunter-gatherer societies, males will generally take care of a child if they had sex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/17 04:27 PM |
| 1 | [Q4ALL] What assumptions, if any, do you make when a person says they do not want to be exclusive with you?"faithful" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/17 09:16 PM |
| 2 | [Q4ALL] What assumptions, if any, do you make when a person says they do not want to be exclusive with you?Seems weird to believe that attraction is the issue when they're still willing to fuck you I don't know why you think that's weird. It means you're attractive enough for sex, but not attractive enough for commitment and they want to keep their eyes open for something better. Part of the reason people jump to this conclusion is probably because they've had this thought about other people of the opposite sex. I've certainly slept with women that I wasn't attracted to enough to want to make it an e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/17 09:14 PM |
| 1 | How I know if a dating culture is out of whack.I don't know what you mean by splitting hairs. I'm providing an explanation as to why there are something like 20% more single men than women among 20-somethings, but among 50-somethings, there are something like 20% more single women than men, as indicated here: http://jonathansoma.com/singles/ If you have a better explanation than "men marry younger women" as to why there are excess 20-something single men and excess 50-something single women, go ahead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 09:56 PM |
| 1 | How I know if a dating culture is out of whack.lol nope. Average marriage age says both marry in their late 20's. "in their late 20's" is an awfully vague way to say it. Americans are getting married later and later. The average age of first marriage in the United States is 27 for women and 29 for men, up from 23 for women and 26 for men in 1990 and 20 and 22 (!) in 1960. https://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2013/03/getting-married-later-is-great-for-college-educated-women/274040/ It varies from state to state, but there's a persistent … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/17 04:57 PM |
| 1 | How I know if a dating culture is out of whack.Dating sucks for unattractive people, my friends and I have no trouble dating my man. It's not the culture, it's you. I doubt that. There are plenty of guys I know who have trouble dating. The guys I know who don't have trouble fall into one of three categories: very attractive and entertaining (like top 5%), low standards (I know a few guys who date girls that I'd consider to be below them, but they seem to be blissfully unaware; one of my guy friends talks about unattractive/overweight women l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/17 09:37 PM |
| 2 | How I know if a dating culture is out of whack.This map shows you how many excess men or excess women there are per 1000 singles. http://jonathansoma.com/singles/# I think the original guy who posted it posted a weird link that lead to absolute numbers rather than relative numbers. (I've seen the map before, so I didn't notice that it was on some weird version of the regular map.) If you hover over the cities, you'll see details like "Las Vegas, NV 48 unmatched men" (meaning that there are 48 unmatched men for every 1000 singles, or 476 wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/17 09:19 PM |
| 0 | How I know if a dating culture is out of whack.As I researched this more closely I'm finding it's the mother that's teaching the girl "you need to find a man who will take care of you." It's also usually the mother telling the girls "you don't need to take science because you can just find a rich man to take care of you". I think that's a horribly sexist thing to teach a girl. I don't know. I feel like both patriarchal and feminist viewpoints are hostile to young men. Patriarchy is a bunch of dads protecting their daughters from those bad gu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/17 07:09 PM |
| 1 | How I know if a dating culture is out of whack.That's why these discussions are difficult to have - people will always accuse the OP of being ugly (especially if he's a guy). Guy: Dating is hard. Internet: You must be ugly. You should feel bad about that. Girl: Dating is hard. Internet: Aww. Yeah, men are terrible, aren't they? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/17 07:04 PM |
| 2 | How I know if a dating culture is out of whack.I still don't follow what you're saying. The circles are either-or. Each circle should have 2 colors representing percentages of men and women. The circles represent the ratio of single men to single women in each city. If a city has 55 single men and 45 single women, then there's an excess of 10 single men. You only need one circle to represent the scale of the imbalance and a color to indicate who it favors (men or women). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/17 06:51 PM |
| 2 | How I know if a dating culture is out of whack.Yup, I'm the same way. Female friends tell me that I'm really attractive and have my shit together. Terrible time dating, though. A few days ago, a female friend of mine was shocked at how terrible the dating world is for me when I was describing my experiences with women. Also, I'm out all the time meeting new people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/17 05:29 PM |
| 1 | How I know if a dating culture is out of whack.What? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/17 05:27 PM |
| 1 | How I know if a dating culture is out of whack.No, it doesn't for the reasons I explain in my earlier comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/17 05:24 PM |
| 1 | How I know if a dating culture is out of whack.That's a bad source because you're only counting up the total number of men and women, not the number of single men and women. Here's why you can't just count the number of men and women alive in a population: men marry younger women. This depletes the number of younger, single women. Here's an example I've used before: imagine 20 people in their 20s (10 men, 10 women; one man and one woman at each age 20,21,22,...29), 20 people in their 30s (10 men, 10 women; one each at ages 30-39), 20 people … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/17 05:22 PM |
| 0 | A few clarifications about the notion of men having a higher libido than women.Most people in the Middle Ages did not live in cities. The people who wrote things down (from which you're drawing your source) disproportionately lived in cities. I'm not talking about actual women as they actually exist. I'm talking about a historical perception of women which existed in the minds of both men and women up until the Renaissance. And, you're trying to draw a connection between what people believed and what was actually true. I'm pointing out why drawing that connection is wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/17 09:26 PM |
| 3 | A few clarifications about the notion of men having a higher libido than women.There's always outliers. Let me explain it this way: men, on average, are 5 inches taller than women. The fact that you can find tall women - women taller than most men - does not validate any argument you might put forward that "women are as tall/taller than men!" The fact remains: there are some very tall women, but men, on average, are still taller than women are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/17 07:46 PM |
| 1 | A few clarifications about the notion of men having a higher libido than women.I still say that's nonsense. For one thing, I can see reasons why men who are sleeping with women would shift the blame to her ("she came onto me") as a way to deflect blame for sex outside marriage (or for cheating on his wife). Secondly, it's well knowns that in medical cities, women outnumbered men. Basically, a lot of men stayed on farms and worked the fields. Women disproportionately moved to cities to do some manual labor of various kinds. As a result, medival cities had excess women (some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/17 07:43 PM |
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