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I mean you could just not get married. A lot of the couples I know in real life are only married in spirit only. They have been together for years and have children nearing teenage years but they aren't married. Even women are getting soured on marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:03 PM
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Some loser make themselves very apparent.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:01 PM
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That is the answer. Women can answer no but that's not the complete answer. If we all have the same universal scenario of an annoying guy asking 10 times in a row then we would all say no. But add nuances and that changes the answer. Is killing people wrong? What if the person you are killing was fatally attacking you or your family?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:36 AM
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Fun fact, I've reversed the genders and asked this of women, and the vast majority didn't require any additional nuances, they were able to say "no" right away. Because without nuances you can say asking your girlfriend if she wants to have sex 2 weeks after you asked her before is coercion. Which everyone can agree is ridiculous. Why? Marriage does not supersede consent. If it's coercion for unmarried people, then it's coercion for married people. The old Missing the point on purpose trick eh? …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:15 AM
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If a man asks a woman to have sex 10 times and the woman says "no" 9 times before finally saying "yes" on the 10th, did she consent? I would say it depends on nuances not elaborated here. If a guy was married and he asked his wife if she was interested in sex every night and she said yes on night 10 then yeah she clearly consented. If a guy is with a girl he barely knows on a date and he asks consecutively in the course of an hour than that obviously a bit dodgy. the recurring theme is "what if …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:11 AM
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You misunderstood my question. I saying if he was the sole provider and she had been out of work for years as opposed to being a 50/50 where she is still in the working world and he left. She would be worse off
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:41 PM
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I guess it depends on who you are listening to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:47 PM
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So him being the sole provider and then leaving her after she's been out of work for year taking care of the children would have left her in a better situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:46 PM
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Sure but that's like besides the point. This story didn't happen because a guy went 50/50. This happened because the guy was a stingy and unhelpful deadbeat. What universe does it make sense for clean baby clothes to be labeled a her expense instead of a universal household expense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:56 PM
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Just to be clear I wasn't accusing you or the women on the topic of bad faith. But moreso the men replying that you are virtue signaling. "If you just treated women like human beings they would like you more" is virtue signaling. Saying "I like short guys" isn't IMO The men who were calling you a liar on the topic probably would have said so no matter what preferences you listed. Unless it was the exact rhetoric they can weaponized for gender war.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:15 PM
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I believe most of the people here debate in bad faith. They just want to hate on what they deem the opposite side.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:00 PM
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Thank you for your reply. To me his humor, plushy skin, nice pecs, his charm, the whole vibe, he's an extrovert. Seems like a valid answer. I could understand bitterness if you virtue signaled or something but that was a completely fair answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:29 PM
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Yes I agree. But woman's advice usually doesn't help with that. I personally think because a lot of women can't relate to trying to approach and court women. Women's advice isn't wrong or bad just not really that applicable to where men struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:13 PM
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Same Issue, If the women aren't giving you a chance you can't show off those qualities. Most men struggle to get their foot in the door. Navigating the inside is difficult and this is where women's advice is super useful but navigating the inside of the castle is useless for men who are struggling to get inside the gates.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:39 PM
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Women give great dating advice. The problem is that women give dating advice for the wrong stage of dating. The part of dating that men struggle with isn't really something most women relate to. When ever I hear women's dating advice it was advice that was amazing... IF I was already dating the girl I was interested in for 10 years and wanted to reignite the sparks that kind of faded. I can't do more domestic labor for women I don't live with because I haven't asked her out yet I can't show emot…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:06 PM
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So what is the point here? That we should be more patriarchal and just have men pay for everything? When I advocate for 50/50 it more that I am advocating for a dual income household. Not splitting every penny for every bill in half. Just an arrangement that makes sense for whatever our earnings allow. Plus this scenario would be ten times worse if the guy was a sole provider and left halfway through her pregnancy, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:48 PM
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Their is a difference between men can be bad people and men in general are bad people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:18 PM
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Being a Stay at home dad is my dreamjob that sounds amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:03 AM
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For me women are already bringing what I want to the table. Good company, honest intentions, willingness to cooperate, Able to behave like an adult. Not really expecting that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:44 PM
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I can appreciate that. Thank you for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:37 AM
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Sure, but If a woman does all that stuff it's the same thing. I've never heard or seen a woman doing all that and someone go "She's an alright mom I guess, She's just doing the bare minimum." perhaps they don't say anything and that feels like women aren't being praised.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:42 AM
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On the parent thing I feel like most parent man or woman are called great parents if they do the bare minimum. Only time someone is called a terrible parent is if their kids are neglected or abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:19 AM
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I agree. No idea why people have so much casual sex especially women who have so much to lose and not enough benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:25 AM
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I can agree with this to a certain extent. How good of friends? Like most men I know would agree that they have friendly female acquaintances. I myself have a couple of female friends but I can't imagine my best friend in the whole wide world being a woman unless she was like my wife or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 06:05 PM
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That's not a real answer. And I don't even think you are reading my comments. You keep saying Again, if you want to be a creepy weirdo. Go forth. Have fun. When I already elaborated that I wouldn't date a woman 3 years younger than myself. I want to have a good faith discussion with you about this topic and why you feel the way you do. You're being vague and dodging the giving real answers to justify your stance. Well, thank you for your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:04 PM
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Okay then please answer in depth. What about age? Before you said it was tied to life experience but it the 30 years old with varying life experience thing doesn't count. What exactly makes it creepy? Because you personally didn't think your 25 year old self was mature? Because it's just is? Because ThatBitchA knows the maturity, bodies and minds of every 20 something year old better than they know themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:55 PM
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Amusing. How old do you think I am? P.S. Interesting dodge on my hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:43 PM
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I personally wouldn't date a woman younger than me by 3 or 4 years(I prefer older women). It's not about me wanting to to be a "creepy weirdo" it's about the absurdity of the argument. I don't understand how a full grown 26 year old getting with a 43 year old is harmful to anyone. And how far does this go? Would a 30 year old who has traveled all around the world and is more well read about the world be creepy dating a 30 year old recluse who doesn't know much about the world? Or is it specifica…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:38 PM
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It's only creepy if the younger person is like under college age. I can't imagine a fully grown 26 year old person who at that age is most likely 4 years past secondary educations can really be taken advantage of because of life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:30 PM
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What percentage of men are doing the things you mentioned if it anything lower than 100% you just contradicted yourself. That is how you proved my point. I have no problem calling out toxicity and misogyny but that doesn't mean people are allowed to say hypocritically dumb stuff online. The point you proved is that "It's a small percentage" isn't applied to men even though it is for some reason prefectable reasonable to apply to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:34 PM
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Exactly. You just proved my point. Women are just more worried about it. (Which is fine.) All the stuff you mentioned can and does happen to men. But I'm not going to take those minority of times it does happen and use it to villianize the gender. That would be dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:16 PM
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But the logic isn't acceptable for men. A small percentage of men are represented in those statistics the only reason to make a claim like this is gender war nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:37 PM
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The problem is It's always a man claim implies that it is never a woman which just isn't the case. It turns out women can be bad people too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:05 PM
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Always a man except when it's a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:21 AM
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Damn were getting old. It's a pop culture reference. It become a trope to call you apprentice young grasshopper in kung fu movies and show.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:01 PM
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By what metric? I never heard a single man complain about the supposed "Male Loneliness Epidemic" outside of this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:35 AM
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And then everyone else is entitled to call out the whackadoodle standards as whackadoodle.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:25 AM
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Not according to what we hear. Women complain about the men they are choosing not single men who don't meet their "standards".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:48 PM
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if women's standard were based around men who are easier to live with you might actually have a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:40 PM
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The problem is this isn't how attraction works. 10 being 10's doesn't make 7's unattractive or ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:21 PM
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The whole point is that they are superficial and artificially created. You really believe a 5'2" woman can tell the difference between 5'10 and 6 foot at a glance? And don't get me started on stuff about money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:27 PM
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Again it's not about Standards being lower it's about them being less superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:13 PM
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Most Black Red pillers I see are leftist and red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 01:06 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:55 AM
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What would you say about a man who walks his girlfriend/girl platonic friend home at night or at least keeps an eye on them entering their homes if he drove them home, a man who donated to breast cancer and domestic abuse shelters, a man who calls out misogyny when it happens in front of him but thought the Man vs Bear debate was dumb?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:00 PM
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Men have sympathy. The problem is your definition of Sympathy means "agree with all the dumb/offensive stuff radicals say about men".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:45 PM
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I agree. Women who make a big stink out of going Dutch usually aren't that interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:30 AM
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Lol perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:20 AM
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I wouldn't mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:40 PM
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I think people here are underestimating how much easier a man in a woman's body would get along with a man. I think the biggest hurdle would be finding someone who wants to commit and isn't just trying to smash.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:48 AM
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- 60% are genuinely good - it depends on what you mean by have their shit together - No one on this sub except for me seems try to debate in good faith. I don't think good guys come into the sub to share hope and good vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:41 AM
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This is untrue. Even the non sexual intimacy is way different than being with friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:40 PM
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Just date sane women bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:41 PM
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Dating is hard all advice is going to be useless to some people. Blue Pill has the added challenge that they have to be politically correct. The politically correct opinion and harsh dating realities don't always align.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:15 PM
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I remember back in 2018-2020 me and my friends were convinced we would die alone if we didn't enjoying "hiking" and put in in our dating profiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 10:24 PM
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Of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 10:20 PM
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Yeah exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 10:19 PM
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Men and Women can absolutely be just friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 10:18 PM
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Most men do have both passions and hobbies. It's just sexism deemed stuff men are into as not real hobbies. Think like Video game discourse or watching sports discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 09:37 PM
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Women don't like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:59 PM
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Do think think women today are being trained to specifically hate men. Man hateyness is trending and pointing it out as hateful or sexism is fought against. That being said I'm not sure feminism is too blame. I think social media and changing social/economic environment all play a factor. Economically simply getting married and buying a house has turned into a herculean task.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 04:35 PM
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The orgasm gap is a women have different bodies and aren't as easy to get off as men thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:51 AM
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But more do so this point is moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:50 PM
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This isn't about ME in particular. I personally would rather swallow glass than approach women. That being said, the facts are that people both men and women want to date. It's a totally human and normal thing to desire human romantic companionship. Saying "Just shut up and sit there and do nothing about your love life" is in no way a sane take. Some women have a problem with it but other women don't so if you desire a relationship then something has to give.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:41 PM
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Women didn't have right and needed men in the 2000's and 1990's?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:15 PM
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I don't mind women not wanting to be approached. but there is a catch 22 here since women also refuse to make the first move. Something's got to give. Either woman making the first move needs to become the norm or we have to ignore woman's preferences about being approached or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:57 PM
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I guess bullying doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 02:52 AM
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The fact that had kids proves most women don't have that much difficulties finding partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:02 AM
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The old argument shambles. First the bar is in the basment now they have to put in a little bit of effort? Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:52 PM
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You're experience isn't universal. Most men will have to fight for options. It's not the herculean task people here will make it out to be but there is clearly more to it than existing and being social or else incels wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:48 PM
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It's not easy to date. You're luckier than most.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:46 PM
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Life is cool but not that cool I'm just trying to do my 80ish year and clock out and meet God.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 07:44 PM
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We will all be old and ugly one day (hopefully) kindness is going to matter
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:10 PM
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Foolishness. Young, pretty, thin. Nothing else matters to men. They dont care who a women is. This is false. Your personality, how nice you are, how compatible you are and if you and him are into the same things matter. No one stay young for ever and older woman are still in relationships/married. Almost no one in America in thin and most are still dating. Don't belive red pillers when they spout dumb stuff like "The Wall" Her achievement or passions. Pretty much all men would choose an immature…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:10 PM
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Sex isn't a tv show you watch. This is the equivalent of saying eating tasty food is boring now because the novelty wore off.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 05:42 PM
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You have bad sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 05:20 PM
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No. Sex isn't a need but most men want sex because SEX IS FUCKING AWESOME. No one sane is diving into puss with the intention of impressing other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 03:43 AM
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Not true. Women don't need relationships and sex like that. No amount of "Attractive" men going mgtow would change anything. They don't care. Nor should they care. If Men want to mgtow they would actually do it. It's just pathetic as a treat same with 4B "If you don't shape up I'm taking my jaded ass out of the dating pool" isn't the horrible threat people seem to think it is. I support MGTOW and 4B whole-heartly. If your incapable of being a normal human being and connecting with the opposite g…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:32 PM
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Dating is mostly about luck. Most advice you will get is trash. Most advice I've gotten in regards to women was pure garbage. it mostly consist of "Change every about yourself until you please women". That being said I understand where the advice is coming from because in the end you can only control your own behaviors. Dating advice isn't meant to solve gender issues. There is more to it than simply making women more accessible to men. Like with the standards things. The original argument was t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:25 PM
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If they are complaining and want to make a difference in their dating life then sure. If they aren't complaining and are suffering in silence then I'm okay with them not changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 02:58 PM
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It is but they'll pretend it isn't the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 02:55 PM
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They are the ones complaining about dating. Women and men both complain liberal amounts. Pretending that women don't complain about dating is a laughable take.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 11:08 AM
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I don't believe people can really believe this logic and not be racist. They is like no way right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 02:53 AM
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Personality. I feel stupid asking women out and women usually don't initiate anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 02:08 PM
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Women don't need it though. They get turned on without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:29 PM
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Not really some women are turned on simply because it's Wednesday. If a man has to initiate sex every single time that isn't the usual. Atleast not in most relationships I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:18 PM
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That's what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:12 PM
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Women only have a responsive desire here and there. I have had some who initiated hookups and sexual stuff without me doing anything. Women only have a responsive desire if you happen to be into them when they aren't in the mood. But if a woman is actually into you simply being yourself and doing basic romantic stuff should get her going. If she's fighting you every step of the way and people are just like "she has a responsive desire" it's more likely that she isn't that into you. Men have no i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:59 AM
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On the internet it's crazy. In real life most the women and men I know are sane and don't hate the other gender... usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:10 PM
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I said that we shouldn't treat sex as a prize. Anything else you made up for a fictional argument. Why would sex being more about connection and feelings be cheaper than a guy putting "romance tokens" into a woman and getting sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:42 PM
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You're barking up the wrong tree. I didn't say any of that nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:29 PM
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what does A have to do with B?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:33 AM
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Yall just comment to disagree at this point. I already said sex SHOULDN'T be a prize. We are on the same side. ThatBitchA is saying it should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:14 AM
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It means doing it because you're both feeling romantic/passionate. What do you think sex is a prize for?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:06 AM
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No one is acting like sex should be given because you want it. We're saying it should be more naturally occurring. Not good boy points for doing the right thing or spending the right amount during a date. Think of sex as a prize men have to earn can lead to toxic mindsets.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:45 AM
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Why? Instead of connection it turns into a prize you earn?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:17 AM
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Its not that sex shouldn't require effort but it shouldn't be a prize you have to win.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:14 AM
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Kissing and hugging I can accept that. Not kissing 5 dates in, would be suspect. But for sex that's not that weird at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:28 PM
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It makes no damn sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 05:53 PM
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But people don't view sex the same way. If she is more chaste of course she isn't going to be sexual right away. Same for demisexuals
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:08 AM
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I feel like the people here live in another reality than I do. If she is putting in effort and willing to spend time with you without money being involved your good.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:58 AM
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the problem is that fat, single mothers, and feminist date pretty frequently and have only slight problems dating. same with older women. To be fair I don't think female are as picky as the internet makes them out to be either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:38 PM
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Interesting stuff thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:25 PM
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Yeah I wouldn't mind. I mean it is not like my sexual past is devoid of hookup or stripper sitting on my lap.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 07:30 PM
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I said probably because I was talking out of my ass. If research says otherwise please share I'm interested. Because I know doctors don't do vesectomy's on young men sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 04:10 PM
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I'm sure they do but a good number of men don't approach. Some men definitely still approach but a good number of men stopped a while now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 04:02 PM
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You should read the thread you are replying to. Reread the title and get back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:15 PM
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I have an idea. I've done research and talked to my friends who are mothers. I know it's not all rainbow and sunshine. I know pregnancy is really arduous. It's just pure idiocy to say there are NO benefits to being a mother. Plus you guys imply and a woman who adopts and doesn't go through pregnancy can't have an opinion on motherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:05 PM
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Nope. I don't understand women at all. They might as well be an alien species.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 12:11 PM
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I guess it depends. What's your job? I'm listening to screaming idiots all day at work and these are grown adults. Me personally I wouldn't find work more fulfilling unless I was curing cancer or slaying dragons.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 12:11 PM
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They probably get a wave of women who are angry with them later in their lives. "I was a 23 year with an undeveloped pre frontal cortex when I made that decision Doctor! Why'd you let me do this!"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 12:00 PM
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Irrelevant it's still a benefit 3. Nothing is a gaurantee but it's highly likely more people love thier mothers than hate them Raising kids is more rewarding than being a wage slave at a job that doesn't care about you at all. 5, Maybe undisplined kids but it is a dice toss BUt their is joy and it is a benefit SPecial treatment from other feels better than "special treatment" from your self No you're right fair enough I was joking with this one soryy I couldn't resist Of course it is but that ir…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:58 AM
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Don't be dense dude. We didn't stop approaching because of MeeToo. We stopped approaching because we saw it didn't work. We stopped approaching women because it made us feel like jester performing for her attention We stopped approaching because it made us feel like we were stupid for being human being with the audacity of having romantic or sexual feelings We stopped approaching because it was just a lot of effort and social energy just to end up getting ghosted. We stopped approaching because …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:53 AM
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Enlighten him anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:42 AM
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Wrong their is at least 10 benefits to having kids as a woman. Taxes Love Family that you love you back Create and build something tangible as oppose to making some CEO rich Someone who can help you with chores. Children can be a joy. You get special treatment on Mother's day Someone to help you as you get older Break from Periods while pregnant If you choose to be a Stay at home mom and get divorce that basically free money with Child Support.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:41 AM
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To be fair men also give other men trouble dating advice quite regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:21 PM
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Rape is bad is the default standard reaction men would have to this. If they didn't speak out specifically just assume that this is the take they have unless you see them support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:39 PM
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This was warped from the original argument. That regular men don't need their wives to be high earners. The average guy is okay dating a guy a walmart girl making 30k a year. High earners are a small part of the dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 09:05 PM
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No he explicitly says "I feel like women don't understand how mentally draining it is Especially when you're the only one planning the dates."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 06:26 PM
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Exactly from both partners. Which is what OP is complaining about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 03:20 PM
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Flawed argument. A woman should be a partner not maintenance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 02:19 PM
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Common sense. If I asked "Can I ask you about your body count" is going to be not much different than asking "what's your body count.". If the lady is uncomfortable with me seeing her sexually at this point it would still make her uncomfortable to know I'm thinking about her in those terms and that I just vocalized it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 02:14 PM
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Asking for permission would have the same effect as just asking the sexual thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 10:36 PM
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A lot of women wouldn't be settling that's the best they could do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 09:32 PM
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Men don't think men are predators more so we acknowledge that men can be predators.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 02:15 AM
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No is a challenge the claim is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 02:05 AM
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No his point is that social media and porn might be artificially warping what people find attractive. Not that women should think really hard about it and lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 12:58 AM
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Crime statistics are a flawed way of viewing misogyny. All the stats say is that men are commiting crimes not their why their are commiting those crimes. Men are most likely to be the victims of violent crime. It proves that male humans are more violent but not inherently misogynistic
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 12:08 AM
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I agree that Women are more attractive than men but it has nothing to do with Make up or any of that other stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:57 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:24 PM
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I think these men were blackpilled because the same message in reverse meant that a man was "Pornsick" if he didn't find average women attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:54 AM
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Incorrect. Most men dating right now weren't alive when our grandparents were dating so most of those concepts are foreign to modern men. They see couples in public and other guys in relationships today and realize these guys aren't millionaire buff guys who dress exquisitely. Yet, they are able to get into a relationship. Fat people are dating, poor people are dating, people who are shy and bad dressers are dating. The idea is stupid when the red pill tries to paint this picture and it's equall…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:29 PM
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No the hardest part is meshing with each others lives after you've been dating for a while and things are getting serious. Keeping that spark through out the years is way harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:35 AM
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The later stages should be but getting your foot in the door I'm not sure if it would be worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:09 AM
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Are you single?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 02:45 AM
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It's more like they want a chance for simply existing. Some people find love naturally so saying "You have to exert 10 million percent of your energy and change every aspect of your existence to even stand a chance" doesn't really seem appealing. Getting a date shouldn't have to feel like or be a herculean task to be pulled off.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 02:42 AM
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Well if you don't know him then yeah he could qualify as a random man in that scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 01:32 AM
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What character green flags or red flags did you look for?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 01:05 AM
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Are you advocating for men to not care as much or to just not simp? Those are 2 different things in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:54 AM
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Yes, hence the post Please answer the rest of that question
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:48 AM
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But they do care. They want to marry women and have a companion to face life with. How would you propose that some men turn off their very human desire to be with a woman? They dont actually have to try. They just think they do and insist on trying to the point where some men dont like it when women take the initiative and approach them. Not true. As a man who currently doesn't try all that happens is nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:46 AM
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Not really not caring just means you'll be alone forever. Men have the unfortunate disadvantage of having to try romance doesn't just appear out of thin air for most. They actively have to look for it if they want anything to happen ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:39 AM
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Honestly think you should approach whenever and respect the no. Worst that will happen is you annoy her slightly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 01:02 AM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:32 PM
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Nah, I feel like people here are just determined to no listen to the examples we list. Everything from "She wanted me to spend all my money on her even though I don't know her" to "I rescued her pet from drowning and she called it the bare minimum" is on par with spending time and talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 03:23 PM
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This is a foolish question.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 09:54 AM
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At what point does self-development stop being growth and start being performance? Whenever you stop improving things you actually believe are deficiencies and start improving things that some internet guy said you are a loser for not improving.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 12:28 AM
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That's all you need to do if she's attracted to you I agree. But the OP was advocating for more referring to it as competition. I specifically said being a jester is a bad idea did you even read my comment Ms. Catpics?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 11:38 PM
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Women who like you reciprocate effort. As opposed to taking your effort and then calling it the bare minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:05 PM
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No competing like that is like trying to negotiate attraction. If a woman likes you who don't have fight for her affection. Giving up ego is one thing but turning yourself into a jester performing for women is a terrible idea. A balance of give effort but also expect her to give equal effort is the best way to go about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:59 PM
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I like this idea. A guaranteed check vs hoping the father isn't dodging child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:12 PM
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I don't hate planning and all that I would just like reciprocal effort from women. If wanting reciprocation is not liking women then we are doomed as a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 05:26 PM
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The problem is that men do all that stuff and it still isn't enough. They're is probably a lot of goalpost moving with people who let their standards get in the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:00 AM
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How did "I didn't like the way he ate" eat?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 03:58 AM
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I think this doesn't matter. Why do people care whether men approach or not? At worse men approaching means some lonely people but at best women finally stop getting harassed. Let cold approaching die.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:31 PM
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Interesting! Some genuine follow up questions. Not a gotcha or a trap I'm seriously interested in your perspective Do you have any male friends, coworkers, acquaintances, or family that would meet your definition of a good person and inversely would you consider a majority of women good people? You said in your story that a friend asks why you don't date guys who don't insult you. That implies you either have a female friend who this is an alien experience for or a male friend you would consider…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:53 PM
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How are we defining good and bad? Is good in you mind only perfect behavior and any flaws constitute "Bad men" I've seen you call getting call average an insult so I'm wary about that paragraph. It isn't normal to constantly insult your partner man or woman we shouldn't tolarate this behavior. And I don't mean light hearted ribbing but actual insults especially in early dating is an instant ender of a relationships. Sexual assault thing is unfortunate, I'm sorry you've been through that. This is…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:36 PM
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It's not that men will treat the lady worse it just that it's nice if the effort is reciprocal. Jumping through hoops just to get ghosted is tiring. Plus a normal relationship the courting should get more advance the more you grow as a couple. I'd happily without complain "Jump through the hoops" for my girlfriend of 5 years knowing she'll appreciate it. but it being a requirement just to get through the gate is tiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:02 PM
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Dating is hard people just don't seem to want to connect or even try.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:48 PM
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We need deradicalization on both side tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:37 AM
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Absolutely. But I don't think it's as simple as treat women like people and you get a gf. There are a lot of factors, main one being luck. I never think radicalization is the answer and I always laugh when people try to convince me that only 6 foot millionaires are getting dates. but, we can't pretend the only reason someone struggles with dating is just because they are a terrible person or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:24 AM
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Meh I've always treated women as people. It's mostly comes down to luck I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:21 AM
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These are the people you guys are letting black pill you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 11:58 PM
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I disagree. A lot of women will just lump ordinary men with the radicals. A lot of radicalization only happened in the first place because being an ordinary man wasn't enough to please most women these days. I hope we can stop radicalization of men somehow and have a brighter dating market in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 11:55 PM
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You're half correct. The main problem with discourse online is that there are bad actors on both sides that are just being shot stirrers. There are plenty of women who have no interest in engaging in good faith but want to spread their man hating agenda across the forums. Read any post from Lilith and tell me she's arguing in good faith and interested in creating fair dating discourse with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:49 PM
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I disagree. Back when I was dating "Hypothetic girl will really admire my six pack" wasn't good enough motivation to keep me working out. However "If I keep at this and eat healthier I'll feel better, I'll have more energy to do the things I want." it what gets me going even today after I've given up on dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:35 PM
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Modern dating is a topic that interest me. I like discussing dating dynamics and pointing out the flaw in peoples logic when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:56 PM
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So then love and affection aren't needs either. development is irrelevant here survival is all the matters. People who try to moral grandstand about love and affection are being selfish and entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:09 PM
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Nope. If we're using Lilith's logic Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs doesn't apply. As long as that child is alive developing properly doesn't matter. Affections and relationships aren't needs you can live with out them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:44 PM
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She sees them just doesn't consider them hoops. In her mind men should have to do 1001 things to get a into a relationship while they just happen naturally for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:10 PM
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Pay attention to what i said and stop dodging. I said from the start I don't think sex is a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:18 PM
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Yeah I don't think it's a need but neither is love or affection. You understand why humans will always have an extreme want for love and affection? Can you answer my questions? Why do people wanting to have sex with their partners bother you? Why isn't your same logic about sex not being a need apply to anything else humans have a want for?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 05:24 PM
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thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:39 PM
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It might not be a physical needs for them but maybe an hard requirement for a relationship. Imagine being friends with someone and every time you asked to hang out they said "No hanging out isn't a need". Well yes its not a need but what the point of being friends with were aren't going to enjoy each others company?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:37 PM
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I didn't call sex a need. Why would it make it harder to keep society when it comes to love and affection but not sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:20 PM
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People don't need love and affection either. Why is sex being singled out as unnecessary but not hugs, kisses, dates, complements or anything else when it comes to dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:12 PM
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You'd be wrong I was willing to do work but their is no reciprocity and then I would feel stupid for trying so hard. I'm okay with being single forever. Women simply aren't worth dating right now. Unless something fell into my lap I'm kind of done for the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:36 PM
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Hoop 1: Initiating. I needed to come on strong but not too strong. If don't initiate and mind my business nothing ever happens dating wise Hoop 2: Texting, Its seems like it is a game of some sort now. I'm not much of a texter but I've met women in person, gotten their numbers and then only texted to set up a date but then I got ghosted even though giving me her number was her idea. Hoop 3: Planning, I got to plan dates and for some reason asking for her opinion is some sort of taboo. So all the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:38 PM
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I agree that we should stop arguing with women. But I disagree that "doing the work" will change anything. Most of the people who struggle with dating aren't even "losers" they are ordinary people, who have a slew of positive and negative traits just like the women they try to court. There needs to be some middle ground. You have to give out effort but your entire dating experience can't be the guy going 100% always trying to be the most attractive to impress women. For a productive relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:13 PM
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You are showing your ignorance of male dating experience here. If a guy didn't initiate, and suggest a meetup and even have some banter they'd be ghosted in about 3 messages.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 08:55 PM
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The whole point of the first couple of dates is like a trial run. if she's boring you during the date then the date is fulfilling it's purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 08:49 PM
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So if I have experienced SA from women before (I have) it is completely ok for me to hate women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:09 PM
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So hatred and fear of a group is valid and justified if members of that group have wrong you or your friends before? Is that the message we want to send to the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:50 PM
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Lol the image that forms in my head is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:13 PM
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Pretty often. I hate blowjobs so I usually tell them not to do it. I don't really expect to come. As I matured I realize orgasms aren't really the best part of sex but a fun and optional part. What I would consider the best sex I've ever had I didn't reach climax. (Maybe too much alcohol or death grip syndrome). Women aren't mind readers sometimes they go too fast and it's more uncomfortable than pleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:55 AM
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No point women do what they want and don't appreciate having their values changed or challenged.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:13 PM
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Sorry, One Piece is peak.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:32 AM
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All the blue piller is the comments now swearing that kindness is attractive in the comments now are going to be the same ones agreeing on Liliths next "Nobody ever said that kindness would get you a girlfriend." post. I love it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:24 PM
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It makes sense online talk and my real life often have different dynamics. It how you can tell a "this person needs touch grass" opinion. Like when Red Piller be saying only 6 foot millionaires are getting dates right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 08:49 PM
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It's a good idea in concept but it counts to women as initiating. And women would rather die than to be considered the initiator.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:17 PM
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That's why you've had to clarify multiple times in this thread? But to address your post most people can be good partners but just not compatible with you specifically. There are indeed tons of men who would make great husbands (kind, funny, loyal, interesting, a blast to be around, etc.) but you wouldn't date for various reasons. Just because someone isn't great for you doesn't mean they won't be great for another woman. One woman's trash may be another woman's treasure very much applies here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 01:52 AM
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It's relevant to this debate. As we need define terms to understand what you're ranting about. It might be a reason to look inward. If I was trying to date women and I only ever seem to get to the attention of vapid wannabe sex workers who are only interested in my money then I can look inward and think "Maybe, I should stop leading with my wallet and looks for other characteristics in women other than a big booty."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:54 AM
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Because there are. Most people aren't violent or intentionally trying to harm people on the day to day. Good men and Datable men might be 2 different things that occasionally overlap to women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:44 PM
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"Women are trying too hard to be in the same place as men where they can interact and make friends with them. That makes men lonely" is what it sounds like his take is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:19 AM
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The male loneliness epidemic isn't women's fault because the male loneliness epidemic isn't real. It's a mixture of of people misunderstanding that one stat that said most men didn't have sex that one year and a loud minority of incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:00 AM
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It's an over-exaggeration. Most men do have standards it's just that the standards are super meetable to any average woman who is a human being and not insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 12:21 AM
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Pendulum swinging. This idea caught wind because blue pillers were saying Women's standards were based on virtuous things like character and kindness. Whereas everyone knew men had shallow (but still easy for most average women to meet.) standards. So they point out women having equally shallow standards to prove men and women are on the same level in terms of morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 06:05 PM
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To believe this is to believe men aren't human. Men and women are capable of immaturity, jealousy, manipulation, and everything else that causes dating problems. Please touch some grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 01:08 PM
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This gets overstated. I agree that men aren't less shallow than women are. Men are definitely less picky. Yes they still care about personalities, values, interest, etc. It just a lower bar for all that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 05:27 PM
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Objection! Do whatever you want in your relationships but only if you want to. I mean if I had a long term girlfriend I'd cook for her on occasion just because she's my girl and I assume I would like her. So I would do random nice things for her whenever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 08:37 PM
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I don't disagree completely but self improvement was always talk about in red pill circles. But you can't sit here and tell me that bluepill and feminist don't shame men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 05:07 PM
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I don't think we misunderstood at all. The point is STILL offensive. That is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 05:04 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:08 PM
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Nope. But it does tell you that if you want to date you need to level up and that being yourself isn't enough anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:08 PM
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Exactly. So I had it right. This is just you aren't good enough. Not saying it's wrong but that's pretty much what we tell men. You need to do more to be attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:08 AM
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Set me straight what does the blue pill tell men who are not proficient to rizzing up women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 01:41 AM
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I'm not sure I understand what you mean. I never said that the action of others affects me. The question was are red pill influencers mentally abusing their audience by saying mean things to men that listen to them and I thought about it and said if that is abusive then I don't see how it different than the other ideology pretty much telling men the same things. Could you explain what you are referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 11:26 PM
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Neither. I'm just trying to live my life. I'm just commenting what I observe and add to this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 11:12 PM
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Sure but this messaging is everywhere not just Redpill. From Redpill, bluepill, feminist, regular women and people on this sub the messaging for men is always: "You aren't doing enough" "You aren't good enough" "Maybe you're just a loser" "Women would rather get mauled by a bear than withstand your genders presence" So i don't see what makes the Redpill approach any more abusive than anyone else's. Especially since most of the time the redpill say with an asterisk of "but you can improve!"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 11:08 PM
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And we would still be entitled to call out that those women's standards are delusional and harmful to a productive and non toxic dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 10:10 PM
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It's not about forcing women to consider you. It more about people admitting that these superficial trait don't matter that much. It easily understood by everyone when men are the one being superficial. If a guy came on here talking about how he's not going to date a totally amazing and attractive woman because she only has C cups instead of H cups breast. We suddenly understand why being superficial hurts the dating market. Not to say they should date someone they aren't attracted to, but more …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:18 PM
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It's not about only having 2 options. In my example the good life partner would be attractive too but women dismiss him because of a superficial or unrealistic standard. I'm not saying women should force themselves to date Ogre men they don't like. Just be realistic. I know too many people who let rich losers ruin their dating lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:56 PM
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High standards and unrealistic/superficial standards are 2 different things. If you noticed your sisters were dismissing pretty good men for a serial cheater who is abusive because he had more money than Guy A you're telling me you would be ok with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:17 PM
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This might be the first time I agree with a Lilith post. Glad to see her shift from the only reason men are lonely is because they are secretly bad people take.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 05:02 AM
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I don't want to. The juice isn't worth the juice. The show isn't worth the price of admission. When I used to approach something inside of me felt really stupid regardless of how well the approach is going. It make me feel like I am a monkey dancing for a crumb of women's attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 12:13 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:16 PM
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It sounds like it but it's true. You can become really good at sex with one person and then the next person doesn't like any of the stuff the other girl liked.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 08:57 PM
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No, it will ruin their ability to pair bond and then they have commitment issues. Plus getting good at sex is pointless through applied practice. Because every woman is pleased differently. So even if you had a lot of sex you wouldn't even be good at pleasing a specific woman in future.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 07:24 PM
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This comment isn't really about me but I agree. This comment was moreso to get Lilith to admit that their are factors other than morals or perceived morals when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 06:54 PM
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Let's just say they attempt a social life and are interesting and good according to your definitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 06:39 PM
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How do you explain people who aren't assholes and are good and interesting people but are still alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 03:53 AM
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The other one doesn't sound like a relationship I'd want to be in. Peace sounds more enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 09:51 PM
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Peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 07:32 PM
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You just did the thing I was talking about thank you for proving my point. I made multiple points about caring about company and love and intimacy and life goals but it you dismissed it just narrowed it down to "You're just horny".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:39 PM
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You JUST made it about sex. Because it is about sex. My point isn't that sex doesn't matter just that it isn't the only thing that guys care about. Simply hugging a friend wont help with the lack of intimacy in question this isn't a gotcha it's you only half paying attention to the comment your debating on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:33 PM
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Because it is important? Did you read my comment I already said it's important.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 04:56 PM
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Go make friends, get an apartment with your friends. Why do you need a wife if you're lonely? When I was lonely hanging out with my friends usually was cool but didn't fill the void. It would make the loneliness worst when I retire to an empty apartment and some of them retired to a home with their families. You dont need kids to not be lonely. Go talk to your friends. Completely irrelevant to what I said. Go hug your friends, Hugs from friends and hugs from a lover are different. The same way h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 04:56 PM
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Men constantly show they have other priorities it's just dismissed and label "Oh you just want to have sex then." Men can say "I've been so lonely, I wish I had a wife at home who cared about me, I always wanted to be a family man, I've been so touch starved for 5 years" and women will hyper focus on the touch starved bit and then counter "See, you only care about sex." Sex is of course a big part of it and I will never believe women when they try to be asexual for some moral high ground. But Se…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 04:39 PM
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I mostly agree. most nice guys are teenagers in high school. thats why they get angry when people explain that good people dont expect rewards for their good actions, outside of gratitude. Here is where I don't agree. Nice Guys usually don't either but when they ask for dating advice there usually met with "Just be a decent person the only reason a man would struggle with dating is if you a super misogynist!" then they usually bring up nice guy finishing last and the misogynist that have no prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 01:22 AM
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I don't think so Women have been working since World War 2. I don't think today's generations can consider it new when most of our mothers and some of our grandmother have had careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 06:38 PM
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The answer seems to be rooted in the American "I live to work" mentality. Men seem to consider a job to be something you do for work but American women consider it a major part of a person's character.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 06:12 PM
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There is a thing called arguing in good faith. You can't just claim that men voting for trump did so as an anti feminist move. So it makes the entire "debate" pointless. Why counter an imagined made up position?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 07:02 PM
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It's interesting. In that first video, if those stats are accurate then it would imply that the patriarchy is dead. Women are just doing so much better they are getting more higher sought after jobs and more college education.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 03:45 AM
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I don't don't give a fuck about that I'm talking about the flaw in your post. You can't frame men voting for trump as men standing up to feminism. People voted for that idiot for multiple reasons I'm sure feminism was on the bottom of the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:31 PM
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We still pretending women don't vote maga?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:15 PM
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Because of love? Men are willing to deal with it because at the end of the day performing emotional labor "Caring about your partner" is a minor inconvenience at best when you weigh pros and cons.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 12:37 AM
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We need to make a Community Wide PSA to Ignore Lillith of Babylon and Windmill_Flowers post.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 12:32 AM
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Why did you even make your post if you already understand the answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 12:27 AM
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yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 12:17 AM
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Windmill your bait is getting weaker. Obviously people only spend money if they themselves or a love one gets something out of it. No one throws money into a bottomless pit for no reason. That doesn't seem generous at all - it seems a little selfish. Who says spending money is about generousity?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 12:16 AM
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"You guys" You wish is granted a lot of men already don't do those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 11:48 PM
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I hate it when us men are facetious with women when they say this. They clearly mean that they don't need men in their personal/romantic lives directly to be satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 11:47 PM
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If youre around people who are totally fine with being around awful people, that means you choose to be around awful people and people with untreated trauma. This isn't about me personally just about facts of life. Your premise only works if women were perfect paragons of virtue instead of human beings. Which we know women are simply human. Plus child like constructs of good and bad don't fit most people in real life. I could be nice and kind to my loved one and then a complete dickhead to peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 03:38 PM
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Somethings they aren't the same men They only look down at them on certain topics like if he was asked to marry a sex worker but otherwise has no problem with them existing or beating his meat to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:19 AM
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Your first mistake is believing morally is the primary factor when it comes to love or relationships. Men who are lonely range from violent misogynist incels to kindly and pleasant incels. Selfishness has NEVER been seen as masculine. one of the core tenant of Masculinity is sacrificing your own happiness or well being to keep other safe and happy. (E.I. going to war to protect your family, or putting your self in danger hunting to provide food.) Teamwork and cooperation are usually described as…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 06:03 AM
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The problem is these societal issues have nothing to do with their dates. rape, sexual assault and harrassment happen to men too, so whose paying for their bill? Workplace discrimination most likely not my dates coworker why would I be responsible for that? Affirm abortion access, 53% of white women voted republican last year. Abortion isn't man vs woman it woman vs woman. If women want their abortion rights back they should ask their sisters why they vote republican in 2016. And generally treat…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:59 AM
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I've always said the male loneliness epidemic was people misunderstanding that one stat that said 60% of men under 30 hadn't had sex or were single in a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 03:15 AM
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You have the same dating pool as everyone else. Date a man who makes less than you and isn't insecure about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 01:40 PM
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DCM
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 08:14 PM
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This doesn't prove anything. Women get more upset at people telling them to smile but I'm saying people telling others to smile in the first place isn't necessarily because they are a woman. Like I said people tell me to smile or that I should smile more all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 08:11 PM
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I don't think this is as gendered as people make it out to be. People tell me to smile all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 07:32 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 10:46 PM
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Why do you put and sort of significance in this "System" and why aren't escort also a part of this system you mentioned?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 01:26 AM
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I thought the "He doesn't do enough chores" thing was disproven by multiple accounts for men putting more effort into the household and still not seeing an increase in sexual activity with their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 04:32 PM
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Yeah that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 12:40 PM
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It doesn't benefit your dating life but it does benefit your general personal life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:10 PM
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It doesn't get you anything dating wise. But there is no resason not to try to be an amazing person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 04:12 PM
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I think both are demonized in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 12:05 AM
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I disagree. I've known guys who are over 6'0" that get turned off when a girls dating profile mentions that they have to be a certain height. Same way women would be turned off if a guy had a cup size and weight requirement that she met.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 05:13 PM
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Here is the thing. Men don't want you guys to have lower standards. They just want the standards to not be superficial. They want you to lower standards for stuff like earnings and height and start having standards for guys who are misogynistic and have cheated on their last 17 girlfriends. People find the standards troublesome because the way they are now is that women will let tall, rich loser ruin their life but keep out loving and good men from potential relationships. Imagine a water filter…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 11:42 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 12:02 AM
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You misunderstand the statement. "Don't care about a women's career" Just means having a high status job doesn't make her more or LESS attractive than a women with a mediocre one. most of the time the discussion is happening people ignore the Less part of that equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 09:52 PM
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I doubt a majority of men want a traditional relationship. They want to split housework and bills. Most relationships I see in real life are are normal equitable relationships. I just don't understand how it's the generation of men who: - View women as human beings not objects for sex or political gains - Willing to have their women work a career they are passionate about - Open minded about relationship dynamics - Willing to occasionally let women take the lead. That i guess not only deserve a …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 03:59 PM
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Which is irrelevant. Those POV's exist and I also hear women talk like this in real life. Which is my point. Men in this generations are the most feminist in history but it's somehow not enough and men need to change more to avoid a deserved male loneliness epidemic? Like what deficiencies do a majority of men have in your opinion makes it so that they aren't worthy of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 06:47 PM
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I'm probably the only person in this sub who argues in good faith. If you disagree please tell me why.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 06:34 PM
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Not to my face directly but women openly post their POV all over the internet and speak like this in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 06:29 PM
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women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 06:21 PM
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There is no change that would satisfy the women saying that in my opinion. A good number of men are decent people who want women to have equal rights and treat their partners as an equal and it's still not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 06:17 PM
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Simple and also pointless You're still miserable and you're life is worse? Devolving into complete degeneracy for what is essentially a very childish mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 09:08 PM
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The thing that caused the frustration is still in place and your opponents might retaliate to make your situation even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:58 PM
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This is a massive waste of time especially since you wouldn't be doing any better so you would still be miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:52 PM
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You were talking about sex and I'm asking about Masturbation, Porn and Sex Workers because it's all related.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:37 PM
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How do you rationalize men masturbating more and watching more porn or hiring sex workers more when those things don't raise your status?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:33 PM
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No the simple answer is that sex feels good and we as a species are programmed to want it. When I see a hot girl with large breast I don't go "If I seduce her my status will rise" I more so think like "Holy cow she is so hot". That being said I can see that maybe a small minority of men do view sex for status but the vast majority just enjoy having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 04:26 PM
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It's mostly about desire and horniness. Women have a bad tendency to blame things men do on ego when the simple answer is the truest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:27 PM
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White women owned slaves btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 01:55 AM
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I enjoy the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:29 PM
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I don't why they should but they clearly do. Women have casual sex. Women on here say they like sex just as much as men. I thought the days of pretending that most women are asexual being that reluctantly deposited if they were convinced were past us miss gecko.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 06:34 PM
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If you want to be in a relationship it's pretty much your only option if you are a guy. I can tell you from personal experience that as a man if you sit around and mind your own business a relationship is highly unlikely to fall into your lap. So you have to pursue as a guy if you want a relationship romance doesn't just happen you have to make it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 02:50 PM
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I do not believe that nice guys are destined to "finish last" as you say. But it has been made abundantly clear that kindness and niceness hold no weight in dating unless a woman already likes you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:35 PM
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Ah yes the average "Men aren't doing enough of everyone in order to win the heart of the middest women" take. I haven't seen a funny one in a while thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 11:18 PM
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The Job market aint that great. The Idea that I could quickly get another job especially one that pays a livage wage doesn't seem as easy. But assuming alimony isn't a thing I'd assume it would still be easier than finding another spouse on the fly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 10:50 PM
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Oh I'm sorry. In that case it's up to the person. Jobs will fire you in an instant over bullshit just like a spouse will cheat at random. In the end nothing is really guaranteed
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 08:56 PM
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Yes. I'd rather be a stay at home husband/dad. This career shit is for the birds.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 08:53 PM
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I mean yes. I would much rather spend my day raising a family and and looking after my house.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 08:18 PM
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Bi. Cheating actively hurts our relationship and her being bi just is sort of a fun fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 02:12 AM
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It isn't a threat. Most simply don't see the value in marry such a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:20 AM
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Work on superficial and unimportant things and earn more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 03:51 PM
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That's like saying I stubbed my left toe but you stubbed your right toe so you'll never understand me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 12:25 PM
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I think it's more of a counter against your men don't understand what women go through comment rather than an "I suffer more so shut up" comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 11:30 AM
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No. My stance is moreso I wish it was more natural and less artificial effort. Kind of like how it feels making friends. I certainly don't want to act like a dancing monkey trying to get women's attention. Me making an "effort" to improve every aspect of my life and a woman just kind of being herself doesn't feel like love. It feels like woman being a prize for being successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 11:34 PM
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I'm not saying it's a huge problem I'm just arguing against the people saying it isn't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:55 PM
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Ok what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:49 PM
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I'm glad someone understands what the sentiment means.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 07:35 PM
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Shared interest isn't the problem. the problem is that the early stages of courting are all on the man. Dates don't fall into your lap you as a man in today's world have to pursue and once you get to the point (After a ton of hard work that women don't have to do) then you can decide on share interest and values.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 06:39 PM
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Maybe dudes should hold women to a higher standard Like women and there standards it's not really something I could turn on or off. If I don't need a bunch of bullshit to be attracted to a women then all I'm doing is artificially denying women over attributes I don't really care about. You should want a partner who actually has some kind of substance - whether it be as simple as ‘they know how to have fun’ or something more than that. Here is the problem. I'm not psychic, I have to get to know h…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 06:37 PM
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If the people I know in relationship are real people none of this is a requirement for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 06:33 PM
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I want modern women to help carry the burden. Traditional Women suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 04:11 AM
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I don't think you understand your own hypothetical then. Because your response to my first comment said It doesn't assume that it's a confirmed experience. When I said "This assumes that everyone who lust over you also hates you". So it's either a confirmed experience or a it might happen sometimes experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:50 PM
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No it doesn't. Because one of the experiences in inevitably a possibility rather than an absolute. Would you rather live through life knowing that bad things of random severity might happen to you or would you rather have never existed at all? Would you drive a car knowing accidents are possible or would your rather never set be able to use a vehicle. if you asked me being lusted over by people who hate me is 1000 times better because it means it possible for me to find the love of my life and l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:39 PM
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Maybe not that extreme. If you wanted a real analogy you would have said the possibility of being lusted over by people who hate you is worse than not being sexuality desired. There is an underlying assumption that it's guaranteed that you will be lusted over at least once by someone who hates you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:28 PM
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This assumes that everyone who lust over you also hates you. there will be plenty who lust over you who you'd want them to lust over you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:24 PM
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Whoever wants it less has more power.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:20 PM
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There is a tenderness and intimacy there. Cuddling with my friends and watching Daredevil would be cool but it wouldn't feel as safe or intimate as with a romantic partner. Have you considered maybe your aromatic?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:34 PM
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Do you agree that romantic love and platonic love are different things? If you don't there is no point to this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:39 PM
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My stance isn't that women are attracted to bad men. My stance is that women don't care about morality as much as they pretend too online. Hell "If women don't like you it's because you are secretly a misogynist who kills kittens for fun and women can detect that" is a very common stance in dating discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:25 PM
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I disagree slightly. I think male sexuality has definitely and still is demonized among the general public.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 08:34 PM
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Notice she never replies to people who take her argument seriously and point out the flawed logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 01:15 AM
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I don't know. I mean do you need hugs and affection or emotional support or dates or romance? None of that stuff is a "need" but we all would agree a relationship without that stuff would be a little ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:18 PM
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The reason they're so pleased is because it wasn't expected. She just did it and he really appreciated it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 12:24 PM
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This assumes those men voted specifically to harm women. If I was A trump voter I would be one because I thought he could fix the cost of living and give more job openings. I wouldn't waste a vote just to spite women on issues they care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 08:48 PM
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It's just a nice gesture. You can only call her a pickme if you think doing nice or thoughtful things for your loved ones is wrong some how.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 08:27 PM
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I think it's exaggerated by a lot. I also think the reverse is equally exaggerated. As a guy when I'm out and about I definitely see women I would consider attractive but I also see a ton I wouldn't touch. Women in dating discourse are known for being picky so I figure that aspect of it is exaggerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 03:15 PM
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I didn't have a problem with the passport bro movement when it was just guys going over seas because because dating was easier. Back then they would show themselves actually getting matches on tinder and going on dates. Now a day it seems like it's about money.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 08:12 PM
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lol "Not all women"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:23 AM
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Wouldn't you like to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 05:23 AM
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To be fair you're opinion is just as empty as mine is since you also provide no proof and it isn't support by reality. Let do an experiment then. Make an Alt account and post I was SA'd by my boss when I left work late today. In an unrelated neutral subreddit like Off my chest or somewhere that post is allowed. and let see what the comments say. If it's a bunch of men calling you a stupid bitch for staying at work late I will literally hate men forever regardless of anything any man including my…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 12:48 AM
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Incorrect. A wave a sympathy and horror is usually the first reaction to SA. No one ever says it's purely a woman's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 12:23 AM
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"Men can be horrible and she should be careful" is the default and how every already feels. You can think "Theives shouldn't steal my stuff" And "I'm going to lock my door" at the same time. But you can only ever control your own actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 12:12 AM
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Makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 02:03 AM
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I think these are bots. Any username that is (word) dash or Underscore (Word) and then numbers is suspicious to me right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 10:01 PM
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men have to approach because women don't want to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 03:24 PM
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A few things here. A woman’s standards aren’t “too high” just because they’re higher than yours. Of course not most people who say this are saying it because women standards (Atleast the ones the spew on the internet) are ridiculous. If most women turned into men overnight they wouldn't meet their own standards. A lot of women standards are the equivalent of a man going "She needs to have H cup breast and be a brain surgeon but have infinite free time to spend with me." I can agree with the rest…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 03:24 PM
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The solutions are for you because your the one who said we will see more post from lonely men complaining. Them being lonely isn't our problem but hearing their drivel is. The solution is too the drivel.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 12:47 PM
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Easy Solution: Ignore those posts Medium Solution: It depends on what "standards are being raised" If it's stuff like Make more money or be taller than eh. But if it's stuff like "I'm not going to have sex with you after the first date" or "I don't date guys who don't respect me" Then fuck those guys. Hard Solution: Debate the men in those post and let them know that the standards set forth are reasonable and/or necessary for successful dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 11:53 AM
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I mean you would rather have 10 liter of drinkable water than 50 liters of polluted water. These men would probably be lonelier than ever in a relationship were they are automatically the bad guys in any situation and they have to fight against there "girlfriends" feelings for basic love and affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 11:15 AM
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Nah trust me if woman who believe men are incapable of being gentle and kind were dating they would just loudly complain about that instead. It's very healing for the dating pool if women like this 4B themselves out of the dating market so that people who are open to love are the only ones left.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 11:05 AM
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I would like to thank you. We really need women like you to remove themselves from the dating pool in order to make room for the honest women out there looking for love. It's perfect when duds remove themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 10:39 AM
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Men aren't that picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 11:03 AM
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Okay and there are Good men who groom themselves and are interesting people. There ain't no rule that says if you're not a cheater or a liar that you can't comb your hair. My main point is just that being a good person doesn't really help or hurt your chances when it comes to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 04:07 PM
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replace they words bathe and my point still stands
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 12:25 PM
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Yeah sure but you had to make it seem like good men don't actually exist or that if they do they are ugly. There are plenty of good men who aren't cheater and bathe regularly the same way there are women who are nice and warm and aren't expecting a mans money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 12:19 PM
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You have to make up things about them to justify women picking cheaters and liars.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 12:14 PM
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I disagree I think society in general is very vocal about how much sleep you lose when you become a new parent. Plus you got stuff like first full time job and Summer Vacations ending to train people in a sudden end to a large amount of free time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 10:46 PM
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I'd never let my Girlfriend cook. I'd kick her out before I let her handle my designer knives. (Not relevant just a side note)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:52 PM
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I guess that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 05:07 PM
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No panties in a bunch just disagreeing. And fair enough you did say that. But I doubt that clean men are such a rarity that none of them like the women or vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:32 PM
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Bullshit. There are slob women and there are hyper clean men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 02:52 PM
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I don't understand Naggers why not just date cleaner men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:34 PM
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So most men? Only a small percentage of people in general let alone men are socially awkward dirty losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:42 AM
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I see. Let me ask you what should men be offering women if it's not a job?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:37 AM
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Want to expand on that thought?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:35 AM
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The answer is a job, because stuff like love and affection and good company is scoffed at. Women don't value a human connection with men anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:33 AM
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No it just means men don't want to have to fight and earn every piece of affection they ever get.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:59 AM
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It makes perfect sense. A lot of women themselves view sex as a favor they do for men as opposed to intimacy shared between two people. So a s a result a lot of women will weaponize sex for control of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:03 PM
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The circus from both sides is pretty amusing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 08:31 PM
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Yeah women in general tend to ignore good men. Not on purpose most people just don't value the positive traits as much as we pretend too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:56 PM
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that sounds reasonable most of the time the standards that people want women to lower standards like "Must be 6'2" or "Make 100k". Nobody wants them to date emotionally unavailable men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 10:58 AM
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It depends on what standards we're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:03 AM
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Love and companionship?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:09 AM
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I don't know. It's not guaranteed to fail but it isn't guaranteed to succeed either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 06:02 PM
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Maybe for men who are in relationships and struggle to keep them but most men today can't even get a first date out of women. When would these guys have even had the chance to showcase any "empathy" skills? Honest Question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 02:20 AM
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I'm not disputing that. I'm not a fan of cold approaches I'm saying they were more effective than dating apps for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 05:45 PM
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I don't want it to. But dating it's going to have a high rate regardless of method
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 11:02 AM
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the era where it's the most common method is the same era where there is a male loneliness epidemic. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 03:28 AM
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There is no courting contract. It doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:46 AM
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There is no contract. If women want boyfriends and men stop approaching just start approaching men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:37 AM
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Probably not and it's goes to my point. Dating apps are poo for most men. You even admitted that you never went on any dates with your matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:01 AM
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In theory? Sure. in actuality? your profile get swiped left before she reads your bio because the first pic wasn't a professional headshot. When communicating real life it's harder to blow them off because of a little thing like that. When I was on dating apps I hardly ever got matches but I can remember countless time where I could casually drum up conversation with people in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 01:52 AM
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They work more often than dating apps you can showcase more of yourself more than in a dating app.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 01:43 AM
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Yes but Dating apps are poo for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 01:14 AM
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This is only applicable if there was an effective alternative for non creepy guys to approach women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 11:19 PM
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Yes I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 05:39 PM
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Not true. I don't care and it didn't make me more successfully. The upside is that well I don't care. But it's not like you become a chick magnet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 05:40 AM
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Too be completely fair. This stage of dating it's not like he's asking for intimacy off rip. Even if girl 1 said yes it's not like it would be a guaranteed successful dating experience. You have to get to know her first and you can't do that without asking her out. It's not like there is some special spark you need before you ask a girl out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 05:37 AM
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It's mostly luck. It's never happened to me when I was actively trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 11:47 PM
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Even though it's not a right people are going to be miffed if they put there all into it and can't get any of it. Human's are social creature and wanting a life partner/mate is literally hard-wired in our brains. You can't talk people into being happy without a partner if their dream goal is to be married with children eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:06 PM
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The burden of proof would be on you since you and OP are the ones making the claim. We are refuting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 08:50 PM
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That very unfortunate series of circumstances aside, It's still true that people did get together for love
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 08:49 PM
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Being nice is not the bare minimum since people aren't nice and still get into relationships. The word Minimum means something guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:34 PM
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No, 80% is a lot especially consider that nobody is perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 08:07 PM
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Everyone shits on deadbeat dads. They just don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:16 PM
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I think some would be pleasantly surprised and some will be disappointed
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:00 AM
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No one has said nothing about needing women to be happy. Just that as a man you have to be intentional with dating. If I decided I wanted a girlfriend right now I would still have to put in that work even if that means acting nonchalant about it. I know because I don't need women to be happy now and women haven't swarmed me for a relationship. I'm just as single now as I was back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:48 AM
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No I didn't. I admitted full stop that dating is easier for women than it is for men. I was saying scoring a a high quality boyfriend (Whatever their definition of that may be) would require work on their end. Some effort that it isn't easy was people in this thread are making it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 07:20 PM
1

Who said they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 07:12 PM
7

You have to be intentional the whole way through or they call it a lack of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 03:16 PM
11

Yes and the middle ground is actively initiating dates and trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:21 AM
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If we are talking pure dates and hookups sure. I'd agree. If were talking getting a boyfriend then not quite. My argument is that women do have struggles in dating to find relationships. Even ones with realistic expectations are going to go on dates with guys who turn out to not be interested, guy who just want to have sex, guys who they have no chemistry with, Guys whose personalities they don't like. That being said Men have to deal with initiating interest AND everything else women have to de…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:15 AM
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Yes. Like I said dating is harder for men. We both agree on this. But that doesn't mean women have it easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:03 AM
-7

I guess it depends on your definition of success in dating. Simply getting dates and having hook ups is one thing but scoring a high quality boyfriend/girlfriend is another.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 09:56 AM
-2

I disagree. Women certainly have it easier than men do but it's not easy for them either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 09:47 AM
90

From personal experience this just sounds being being single and hoping a relationship falls into your lap. Men have the disadvantage with having to be intentional with their dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 09:20 AM
1

Maybe your life sucks but mine is pretty all right.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 09:08 PM
1

Info: So you're disagreeing with other women on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 08:21 PM
2

I have fun entertaining trolls sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:55 AM
3

EVERYTHING? You honestly believe it's the only thing that matters when dating? Your character? I'm honestly asking here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:43 PM
8

Bitter misogynist date all the time so I doubt that. Success is mostly based on Luck and Exposure. Assuming misogyny is the reason men fail is flawed because it also assume that women date purely on moral character or that not being misogynist would automatically grant you success in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:38 PM
6

Like I said. They don't get out enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:24 PM
13

Highly unlikely women prove everyday they don't mind dating misogynist. The most likely reason someone doesn't have a girlfriend is that they don't get out enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:19 PM
4

They'll never see the hypocrisy, They make up some bs logic that justifies it in their minds. and they doesn't mean just women it means people with this mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 09:52 AM
0

I disagree. I'm a man and wasn't socialized to see women as subordinates that needs to be dominated. Outside of internet Red pill not many people in real life I met think like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:50 AM
1

Lol that's what I get for making assumption but the point is I need women who think like that to leave the dating market so honest men and women can date in peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 10:25 PM
15

If you honestly believe this please 4B yourself. Decenter men whatever it is just remove yourself from the dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:14 PM
4

Yes my point is that it is possible to be in a relationship where both people are attracted to each other and love each other. Your point is that women won't ever like men except in extremely rare circumstances??
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:14 PM
2

Straight women aren't attracted to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 04:07 PM
12

What's the alternative? Bad sex with a man you keep looking past to the better looking guy over the street whilst the baby cries in the background? Can you blame them for wanting to skip that? The alternative could easily be a loving husband who meets all your emotional and physical needs but let just assume every relationship any woman will ever get into will be bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 04:06 PM
13

Is there anything else woman also offer greater than this? Let's see: Love, Family, Companionship, teamwork, Emotional Support, Marriage, and maybe a dual income. The real reason women hate these things isn't because they want a monopoly on sex. It's because they have been raised to believe male sexuality is inherently bad or misguided. Most of the things men will find sexy will be seen as base and dirty.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:31 PM
3

She said yes and then ghosted me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 09:33 PM
1

Yes if they were great company I would date an asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:00 PM
3

This is a slightly different case. It's interesting that their personalities are good enough to call them a friend but when they ask them out they say no. Which would mean that even though their personalities are up to scratch for companionship but not a relationship. It just means the women in question isn't interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 12:09 PM
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This is a result of how men struggle with dating. Most who struggle aren't going on dates with women and then turning them off that way most are struggling to even get their foot into the door. Most guys who have trouble are being eliminated BEFORE they even had the chance to show off any sort of personality or emotional intelligence. Which is why when most men give advice it is more about how to get your foot in the door rather than how to keep a woman who is already interested. Unfortunately t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 01:27 AM
1

I feel like people in the comments are purposefully misinterpreting Chris Rock's meaning. It's wasn't to say that women and child will be loved no matter what they do. It's just that being loved and valued is their default state as human beings. essentially that unlike mean women and child don't have to earn their spot in the family like men feel like they have to. As a man in this society it feels like if you don't provide or protect or whatever else you're chopped liver. Edit: Downvotes instea…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 11:01 PM
1

Well if a paternity test pans out it doesn't confirm that the woman didn't cheat it just means the child is his and he isn't raising another man's kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:26 AM
2

Well besides love, companionship, good feelings and warmth what else would you want from men? Men are human beings and last I checked humans are social animals theoretically simply existing near other people in a friendly manner give off some kind of value, let alone them being a loved one, like say a boyfriend or a husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:59 PM
1

This won't work all it does it makes men who want relationships lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 05:41 PM
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To be fair this post specifically asked what is men's role.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 05:37 PM
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Which is completely irrelevant to what I asked you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 08:48 PM
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Okay, what about the thousands of video footage of women playing games on twitch, YouTube, e sports?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:36 PM
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No offense but this is a very touchy grass opinion. I know tons of women who play videogames. My cousin was the one who introduced me to Grand Theft Auto. And I was just having a conversation with my coworker about Mortal Kombat.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:36 AM
1

Does it feel twisted to anyone else that we are at the point where people are saying raising their own children is less rewarding or compensating than wasting your life away at some corporate office doing things that won't matter in 10 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 01:45 AM
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May I ask why drinking and going out to concerts is the bar for being interested in stuff? What if these men find other hobbies more enjoyable?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 01:28 AM
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Yes No No Yes Maybe it depends on her personality No No It depends. If she just selling bikini and feet pics or make 10 millions dollars then yes. If she is getting the stuffing pounded out of her by other pornstars then no. Probably not but again if me and her just click that well then maybe. Also If i'm like 50 and she's like 50 and her kids are grown or nearly grown this changes the answer. Sure Sure Yes I don't think so. Absolutely. They call me Superman because I leap tall hoes in a single …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:51 PM
9

I do. I don't support internet feminism but women's rights like voting and healthcare have my full support.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:41 PM
1

So YOU stopped it instead of continuing to have bad sex interesting development.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 12:49 PM
9

Stop caring about annoying women. It's the only way to date peacefully
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 12:06 PM
12

Men aren't the one who say thing like "Just be a decent woman". So your point is moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:05 AM
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Because men don't want to beat up women. What kind of question is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 11:30 PM
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Thats the part where they open their mouths and talk. If they are married I'm assuming they are on a conversational basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:49 AM
1

What was the tactic of you don't mind me asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:45 PM
4

Like I said sex is a 2 person activity not something men do to women. So if sex turned into chore sex they played a part in that 9 times out of 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:44 PM
4

Well I don't I'm not as fortunate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:03 PM
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Women's behavior. If you aren't sexual you don't elicit that spark relationships and dates need in order to be interesting. You just get friendzoned. Which I don't really have a problem with but if my intention was to date then it doesn't really help to completely remove sexuality and flirting when interacting with potential dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:15 PM
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Women don’t find playing the roles of mom and dad fulfilling, either, that’s why they eventually leave. So it sounds like you agree with me. Being in a modern relationship where the other expects both traditional and modern behavior is unfulfilling. It's not like women are toughing these relationships out you said they are leaving. So why would it be unreasonable for me to say that men or women shouldn't be held to this? Are you saying that instead of women only playing one role men should join …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:09 PM
1

See you think like I do. Women who have dumb standards and then come onto the internet to complain about how men are trash when it backfires are my pet peeve.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:56 PM
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Women play multiple roles daily, but men are somehow incompetent and incapable? Yes I want women to stop doing this they are only hurting themselves in the long run and going against feminism. Men? no. Me personally? Yes. Some men want to be glorified wallets and emotional punching bags under the guise of Traditional masculinity. It's not about incompetent or incapable. It's about being unwilling. I would never find a relationship like that fulfilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:53 PM
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Do you see red or black pill in my tag? What's their dumbass arguments got to do with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:41 PM
2

Exactly. And then imagine if my clearly stupid standards just gaining traction and other men started thinking like that. Honest average women who are super datable would be stopped at the door to relationship by a foolish standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:39 PM
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Women have been playing both roles for decades. The competent parent, competent employee, competent student, the person who manages all the practical and essential chores of raising children and keeping a home. Completely irrelevant to me. Since in any relationship I am in I would also be doing this. While also maintaining a feminine countenance, typical feminine behavior towards others in familial and social situations, the careful and attentive social planner, the person who knows all the favo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:35 PM
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People want what they want but standards can definitely be unreasonable. If I said women need to be able to a triple backflip and have N cup breast that would be a ridiculous thing to expect women to live up to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:23 AM
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- Paying for everything right off the bat when I barely know you - Needing to be at 120% percent and the second I dip below that "He's not putting in effort anymore - I need to do all the planning, initiating, and leading and will be admonished it any of it is wrong - Needing to simultaneously be sexual but not sexual at the same time because it can easily be objectifying - Wanting to treat her as an equal but also wants to shove me in a traditional male gender role.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:21 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llGvsgN17CQ
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:49 AM
11

I definitely would.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:47 AM
3

Right. The word Minimum means something. If you really require more than that than it's not a minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 10:31 AM
3

The bare minimum would be the very minimum would have to achieve to be datable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:37 PM
2

It's not a magic up up down b cheatcode that will make a girlfriend materialize out of thin air for you. Then it isn't some bare minimum like you're trying to push in your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 07:33 PM
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If simply being a human being was all you required insults wouldn't exist. Do you guys even think before y'all type bullshit like this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 07:25 PM
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Wrong. Some women aren't datable but have enjoyable company.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 02:25 AM
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Me personally I have healthy supportive platonic male friends, it's just that platonic friendship never helped with my feeling of loneliness regarding wanting a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 11:54 PM
3

Get laid? You guys know how hard it is to even get regular dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:38 PM
1

There would be more competition but that's not a problem. The relationship would not be worse it would be about the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 10:22 PM
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Of course they are. Men are the Initiators and women are the chooser 9/10 times.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:00 PM
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Of course it will work. It has before. But not really my point. My main point is we can't be surprised when we let this bullshit reign and then be surprised when the dating market is shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:08 AM
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I disagree. It would lead to a cultural and far reaching consequences is this bullshit becomes normalized and infect the dating market. We shouldn't be complacent and then be surprised when the dating market is complete bullshit where being an ordinary person leaves you at a disadvantage. It would be one thing if a select few thought like this and it were fringe. But, it being normalized or "we shouldn't shame it" can be detrimental to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:04 AM
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The problem isn't high standards but superficial ones that stop you at the door before you get a chance to show off your real qualities. I hear women all the time talk about how they want someone who is kind and attractive and blah blah blah and then NOT date that guys and continue to complain about how there aren't good men. How easily women get the ick is also a contributing factor in people perception of this problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:55 AM
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Sincere maybe but ultimately useless advice to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:09 PM
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The advice is useless and framed in a hurtful manor most of the time. It's less advice and more people trying to prove a point. this is a quick summary of the advice people give men on the internet. "Obviously you have to change you're entire shitty personality. Why would a woman whose allowed to have flaws be ok with you if you have a single flaw and aren't constantly self improving? Also, Stop being a misogynist women hate misogynist and will only date a good person. If you're single that clea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:00 PM
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Stop caring about making women uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 11:22 AM
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There are so many normal people out there. It kind of astonishing if EVERY guy someone dates is an abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:44 PM
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Yeah, I'm asking what the differences would be. I know tons of people who can make friends quite naturally but aren't good with even getting dates from women. What social skills are they lacking would you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:40 PM
1

What social skills exactly is he lacking?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:22 AM
1

What would you say about a man (who pays escorts) who has friends and is like well by coworkers and acquaintances?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:02 AM
1

No one is imagining a utopia. It's obvious to anyone with a brain that relationship take hard work. All that considers platonic friendship don't cover up for a lack of romantic success.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:34 AM
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I don't see why I would care too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:54 PM
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How can licking doorknoobs be illegal on Zelzaban 8? They don't even have tongues.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:42 AM
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Or I could just meet people on real life
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:53 AM
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I don't really care about rejection so I'm not worried about that. I'm not paying for professional level model photographs just to continue being ignored I prefer real life. Also I was not showering or anything and women could smell me through the phone. /S
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 05:51 PM
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Pictures are fairly decent. Yes I get ignored on Instagram and super ignored on Facebook. Face to Face is just so much easier. You can easily show off more of your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 05:43 PM
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So instead of having meaningful conversations at parties I'm fighting to not get ghosted 3 messages into an app. Don't see the improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 05:36 PM
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Not a victim but you are allowed to feel bad about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 11:36 PM
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You aren't listening. I already HAVE good Friends. I have the best friends honestly. They are some of the light in my life. It DOESN'T help. I have family who tell me how amazing I am all the time. It DOESN'T help. pretending not to care about it doesn't make men less lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:02 AM
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It's not a depression. It's a very natural sense of loneliness. I wasn't suicidal back then just the occasion loss that my life didn't have anything I really valued. It's not rocket science, I was a family oriented guy and way of thinking. It's obvious why a lack of a romantic relationship made me sad when my biggest life goal was to get married and have kids. I'm not saying it's on anyone. Just that "Lol make friends and spend time with your family and you won't care about a lack of romantic su…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:51 AM
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Incorrect. Friendship don't make up for the loneliness you feel when you want romantic attention. I sometimes felt lonelier after a day of hanging out with my friends and then coming home to an empty apartment while they all went back to wives and children.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:35 AM
2

There are multiple examples of animals cleaning themselves in nature
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:34 AM
5

Wouldn't someone who is more aggressive in interest and in pursuit be more likely to be dangerous than a guy who lets relationships form naturally?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:32 AM
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The problem being that there is plenty of regular non E. coli pizza that women are ignoring and then are purposely choosing the E. Coli pizza anyways. And then coming on the internet to say things like "Does choosing better pizza mean there is an abundance of cheese pizza."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:09 PM
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Lol what makes more sense. That there is a deficit of ordinary guys and that a vast majority of men ever is a master manipulator or that women are choosing vapid guys that make a good first impression over a solid option.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:00 PM
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I don't think women are being manipulated into sex. Sex is a 2 person activity not a thing guys to to women. Women are choosing to have sex with these guys and not to strive for commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:15 AM
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We don’t exist purely for men. Women’s point of existence isn’t being your mate. Biologically speaking this isn't correct. The only reason sexes exist in the first place is for reproductive purposes. Men are literally made for women and women are made for men. Socially you are correct. Anyways on to my main point. Cold approaching is sometimes the only viable option. As a guy I've discovered not talking to woman because I might make them uncomfortable is pretty much a recipe for being single for…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 09:34 AM
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When I gave up on dating it was stuff in my real life that made me do it not anything on twitter. I was just tired of the nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 08:48 AM
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There are plenty of good reasons not to cold approach. It's unnatural It puts you and the woman on the spot It rarely works all that time could be put to something more productive like learning piano
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 09:02 PM
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Nah the bar for "Looking Good" is a lot less for women when it comes to dating. Most of the stuff you pointed out is stuff women do for themselves anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:20 PM
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Let pretend that's true. You're post is still heavily flawed. You're Fictional Feminazi Party is doing much more than Trump is doing to women. Trump hasn't - Had women pay a tax before sex incase of pregnancy - Not allowed women to reproduce if they hadn't paid certain child insurances and earn a certain income - Had Women without partner made to have less educational, social and economic opportunities - Had women submit to a biweekly egg test so that women with bad eggs can have less social sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 09:51 PM
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Is this some fictional universe where women didn't also vote for Trump?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 09:02 PM
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No they don't. It's victim blame as hell to insinuate that men cause their own muggings or murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 08:31 PM
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The whole thing about being used is objectification. If she is genuinely enjoying herself and they are indeed FRIENDS with benefits that she isn't being used for her body. Sex isn't something that men do to women it's a mutual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 07:07 PM
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What's that got to do with what I said? If I disrespect women because I think they are inferior then I would be misogynist If I disrespect everyone and sometimes women get caught up in it. I'm just a dickhead. When men are attacked by other men it's not because he's a men. So it's not proof that men are misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 07:05 PM
1

Being cheated on has nothing to do you your value and everything to do with your partner being a degenerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 12:48 PM
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I think trying to make men providers is a good way to uphold the patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 12:46 PM
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This logic presents the same problem that "Black on black" violence presents. In that when men attack other men it isn't for gender motivated reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 12:16 PM
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Modern. I don't want to pay for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 12:37 AM
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Women aren't psychic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:54 PM
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I agree I'm not saying date ugly guys. I'm just saying these ladies need to stop letting pretty losers ruin their dating lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 06:10 PM
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It's not that less attractive men have better character it's that women have been known to ignore character entirely in favor of vapid characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 12:21 PM
2

Because lower standards doesn't equal worse treatment. Where did you pull that bull from?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:44 AM
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As long as you're not the ones complaining about not being able to find a good man this isn't an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 03:35 AM
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"Guys upset that most men can't get away with being human beings."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:36 PM
3

Personality - Is likable and doesn't turn everyday into a headache. She has a heathy amount of hobbies away from that I don't have to be apart of and let me have mine. Ideally we'd meet in the middle for something we can both enjoy together but still have our alone time. Education - I don't really care. anything is fine as long as she isn't purposely ignorant. financials - has a job so we can go 50/50 social status - social status is irrelevant to our relationship. The most valuable a women can …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 03:38 PM
1

Looks and confidence are only a piece of the puzzle. I found that the main factor is luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 01:08 PM
1

Why not? I know a couple with a dynamic like this. The woman works part time and is an amazing woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:22 AM
0

Chose better means stop picking men who abuse you just because they are rich and hot. Not dating a kindly man because he poor is the OPPOSITE of choosing better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:12 AM
1

You should feel shame. Why even get married if you feel like leaving on a whim like that. The vows you speak when you are on the alter should mean something. I don't even understand why someone would leave a marriage if NOTHING was wrong. Even falling out of love with your partner is a major problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:35 AM
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It's honestly whatever feels right. Always a little weirded out by people who say they need to bang within the first 3 dates or so. I'd be okay simply waiting months even a year before intimacy but it has to be like natural waiting. Simply not having sex even though we knew we like each other and trust each other is a bit daft.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:52 PM
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Eh it depends. A winning personality and a modicum of charm isn't enough sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 01:05 PM
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The only problem is are those men actually better? Does having more money or doesn't walk funny but abusive make him a better choice than average guy with a limp or a low salary who is an otherwise grand boyfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 03:34 AM
7

Dating older women has always been a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 02:48 AM
1

So like women today?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 08:22 PM
1

I already answered this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:35 PM
2

Money is an individual thing. Same reason I don't think teeth fillings and half of your hair should be collected.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 04:28 AM
2

Half of the real assets like a house sure but not actual money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 03:28 AM
3

It should be legal. unless the money was taken from a joint account.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 01:49 AM
5

When I was lonely I didn't want a girlfriend because I wanted validation or because of ego. I was just tired of coming home to an empty apartment and wanted someone I could hug and cuddle with at the end of a long day.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 07:19 PM
3

I actually agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:10 AM
8

I only ever say that if the lady in question has a habit of dating abuser and then wants to mouth off about how all men are like that. Pure foolishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:24 AM
1

But you're judging the promiscuity for different reasons under different contexts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 12:26 AM
1

Common misconception that's not a double standard. Heterosexual men don't date other men so they don't care about body counts of other men. It would be up to women to care if the man they were dating dicked down every woman in a 50 mile radius. It would be a double standard if Bisexual men cared about a womans body count but not a men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 08:04 PM
5

I don't see how hobbies would mean you struggle with hookups. I can understand relationships since you are getting to know the person. But how would lack of hobbies stop you from hooking up when the whole point is that you both just want sex and don't really care deeply about the others personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 04:02 PM
0

Her being horny and liking you sometimes isn't enough. Sometimes you have to wine and dine her. Sometime you give her the ick by text too quickly or too slowly. Sometimes she gets into her own head about insecurities and flaws she perceives from the guy or from herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 03:57 PM
1

You said "Why would I have to jump thru hoops to get someone who wants to fuck me to do what they want" What I mean is that sometime it feels like you have to jump through hoops to get to that point where the woman wants you back. Sometimes doing something you both want is like pulling teeth with women. See the infamous "where do you want to eat" thing people go through with their girlfriends. You also said "Do women not get horny themselves in this imagination land" Which has nothing to do with…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 03:50 PM
1

I think you replied to the wrong person your reply makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 03:32 PM
1

That's you projecting. I'm not mad or upset at all. I personally think women being the gatekeepers works fine. It does feel a little like as a man you sometimes have to jump through hoops to get a chance but such is life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 03:26 PM
1

This doesn't change anything. Women would still be the gatekeepers. All it means it that Women primarily are the one that decide. If I wasn't invited to a lavish party. Me deciding not to go doesn't suddenly make me in charge of invites.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 02:14 AM
4

It's not a narrative. It just the stone cold truth. If I wanted a girlfriend or even a hookup there are a mountain of hoops I've have to jump through just to get a foot in the door. Women will be picky and guarded regardless of any narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 01:58 AM
0

Congratulations. I'm proud of you. So now you know that choosing better man does work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 04:33 AM
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Women will really do anything but be in a loving and supportive relationship lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 07:01 PM
1

Yeah sure but we'd have to date first.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 07:04 PM
7

I don't think it's wrong. it would be wrong if he posted to the Internet. But you're saying the wife posted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 06:57 PM
3

It depends on the context. "I got knocked up by my high school boyfriend and I was too young and poor to take care of a child. Giving them up for adoption seemed like the best option at the time" is going to play out a lot differently than "I just didn't feel like being a mother lol"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:05 AM
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You heard it here folks love is dead. Maybe it was never alive in the first place. My real problem with this is that the price isn't worth the product. The only woman I'd put in all this effort to date is Anne Hathaway 15 years younger. No other woman is worth it. Imagine me changing my entire personality to impress a middle of the road girl who would never lift a finger to try to impress me. Also mod team get your head out of your ass how is disagreeing with a debate post contentless rhetoric?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 04:01 PM
2

I would disagree with this accessment just based on the fact that most women aren't single.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:44 PM
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Removing the brainwashing would be a simple "I don't think I want kids" Being brainwashed in the other direction is "Having kids is my own personal hell. I can't imagine a worse fate in life than raising a family."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 03:42 AM
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So? What do their/my feelings have to do with you? Nothing. But the post asked my opinion so I gave. It's not like I spend my free time criticizing such movements I just think the hysteria around them are unnatural and hedonistic. Unnatural in the sense that I feel like someone or something has brainwash young people into thinking having kids is worthy of being a personal hell. Hedonistic in the sense that people would rather do vapid and short term fun things than shoulder some responsibility a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 03:20 AM
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I'm not talking about people who simply don't think kids fit in their live. I'm talking the childfree group that goes around. People who pretend having kids is the worst possible outcome for human beings. It not just women but men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:41 AM
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No but I do find this growing movement to not have kids unnatural and hedonistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 01:08 AM
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Men are radicalized because any struggle in dating they have is usually met with some serious tough love.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:16 PM
11

How is a man a mysogynist if he doesn't want to argue about every thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:48 PM
2

Let me rephrase that. What about 1-3 makes anyone a loser exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:56 PM
3

So she's a kind person and cooperative but still a loser with no friends. Plus she eats junkfood but is still in amazing shape? I don't really understand the premise what exactly makes her a loser?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 06:07 PM
1

Get rid of swiping and make it match based like a computer matches you with someone. And make it so you can only have 1 match at a time. You start a profile answer questions and picking your interest and the computer puts similiarly interested people in your area as a match. It connects you to them and are encouraged to give it a try.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 12:01 AM
1

Their point is that he only did that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:11 PM
1

That question wasn't rhetorical? He was trying to initiating sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 09:20 AM
1

If he proceeded past the initiation you would have a point. But the attempt isn't sexual assault
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:51 AM
1

If he proceeded past the initiation you would have a point. But the attempt isn't sexual assault. Him gently rubbing his wife's arm isn't sexual assault. (Remember he also can't see her face from behind so he has less body language info than we do with the side camera angle.)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 01:47 AM
1

I don't agree with this example. Random cuddles or touches in passing should be expected. Not being entitled to sex should be expected but it is completely ridiculous to consider gently hug your wife and that being sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 11:47 PM
4

Yeah totally. it shouldn't be just wives either you shouldn't touch your children or pet your dog without consent either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:59 PM
2

Context matters here. The scenario is dumb because when you come across a random man in the woods you aren't worried that he did prep time like Batman and is holding your family hostage before your encounter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 06:47 PM
5

Women are terrible at giving men dating advice. But to be completely fair men are terrible at giving men advice too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 02:49 AM
3

I chose the man. Even if he's a psycho I can beat a man in a fight. And I'm pretty confident but I'm sure that even with a gun a bear might mollywhop the shit out of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 01:33 AM
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It's not a business transaction it's human relationships. The companionship and connecting to another human is sometimes all that is necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 06:24 PM
2

Womanhood is an issue if they are straight. I'm not sure I understand you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:54 PM
1

Whatever difference the date makes depends on the woman. The point is men do it because it does make a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:50 PM
1

I found that even if the lady is open to casual sex just mentioning it like that will give them the ICK.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:45 PM
2

The only issue is assuming that men that are sad they have trouble dating are only sad because they think their value comes from women. A lot of them are sad because they desire a relationship and want to share their life with someone who cares about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:35 PM
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People are finally starting to wake up to the luck pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:42 PM
16

I'm curious, how exactly would men show off this "basic empathy" or "emotional intelligence" BEFORE they start dating women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:07 PM
3

Eh it depends. It might not be a hindrance to Brad fucking some vapid slut but would be a hindrance to David trying to date an honest women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:58 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 02:58 AM
3

Let's see here - 4B women/ sex strike women - Woman who lose their sex drive in marriages and stop being intimate if their husband slacks on chores - Women who talk about how gross they think male sexuality is - Women who make men jump through hoops for intimacy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 02:43 AM
6

I think women often forget that women enjoy sex from the way they talk about dating and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 01:48 AM
15

Nonsense. Unemployed means I can spend more time with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 12:44 AM
8

Men hire sex workers and buy porn all the time. What are you talking about about?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:10 PM
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Windwill your post are usual better bait than this. step it up girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:23 PM
3

Sounds like a great idea. Go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:11 PM
3

4,032,763,914 men. She can only reasonable say that if she has dated every man on the planet. Let me present you with this. Imagine if you will a guy who spent the last 4 months dating a stripper/sugar baby surgically enhanced type woman. A woman who goes on instagram and say a man not a real man if he doesn't pay his girls bills. And then when thing inevitable happens this guy start ranting about how Women are materialistic whore who only care about money and are incapable of feeling romantic l…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:30 PM
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The only problem is when women came back after dating subpar men and then generalize that all men are like that. If someone is in love with the cycle of going into obviously toxic relationships and and then don't come out and start talking about how all men are cheaters and women beaters then whatever. But if they do complain then there is an obvious answer choose the men who don't a.k.a better men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:06 PM
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It's not about what men think. Women have their own brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:56 PM
5

The choose better men thing is usually aimed at women who would date obviously emotionally distant serial cheaters and then when they get their heart broken they would blame all men for the actions of this obvious dud.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:43 PM
8

Which mens reactions? My reaction to this 4B movement is it sounds like a great idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:34 PM
3

I think he wants to know the logic of this. What's the point of matching then making both parties do unnecessary work for something both parties want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 03:41 PM
2

Then why did she match?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 03:36 PM
3

Sex is secondary too be honest. I wish dating itself was easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 11:47 AM
4

No, restricting who can get married to is stupid and you inevitably fuck over genuine couples because of a technicality. Are women's standards in hell? Definitely not. Women stop a lot of viable people at the gate for superficial reasons. Simply demanding men who would already meet your standards if you let them show off those qualities isn't really going to accomplish much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:03 PM
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My only problem is this line of thinking doesn't make any sense. It assume that men have voted away their rights. MEN didn't vote trump into office people both men and women did. It assumes that women's libidos/sexuality/romantic feelings is something they can turn off and on whenever it suits them plus It assumes the their libidos are mostly about morality. We know this isn't true. Men who struggle don't do so become who is the president. Conservative and misogynist get laid all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:16 AM
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Women can't complain that men voted for trump some men didn't and a lot of women voted for Trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:25 PM
1

I will continue to protect them. If I only protect those whom I like then I don't care about what is right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:35 PM
1

Not really back when I was asking advice I genuinely wanted some ordinary dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 08:01 PM
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No it's not okay. Why even commit to someone as serious as marriage and children if you feel like you should just throw it aside like garbage?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 11:26 PM
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Yo I understand that. Tending to my own children isn't work the same way my job is that. I'm way more invested in one than the other also that's really only the first few years once the kids are off to school there is still a ton of work but also plenty of idle time. I wouldn't want to be a trad wife but being a stay at home parent is practically my dream job.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:02 PM
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Waking up early to get my family ready, Cooking cleaning, dropping my children off at school, various chores. Pretty much most of the stuff I have to do know but the work will go toward something I actuallycare about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:40 AM
2

I wouldn't mind being a SAHM this career shit is for the birds.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 01:46 AM
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I'm not sure this is true. Most women I know in real life are in relationships or are actively courting people. I actually am struggling to remember when I met a single woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 11:17 PM
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But people don't do hobbies to become interesting or stand out more. Knitting isn't terribly interesting but I would never tell a woman who knits in her free time that it's not a real hobby because I don't find it interesting. Same with something like coin collecting or or hiking/walks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:42 PM
11

Video games aren't a hobby?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:36 PM
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Problem being is that people don't get into hobbies to be interesting they do it because it's how they enjoy their freetime. Plus who decides what hobbies are interesting? I spent all weekend playing videogames is equal in my mind to I spent all weekend hiking. Both aren't really that interesting to hear other people talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:30 PM
3

It's more than the current nature of dating advice is always telling them that they will never be good enough. And it's going to be frustrating to constantly hear that from people who don't know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:26 PM
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Because it's a superficial standard at best for me personally. Her hobbies and passions are hers. Most of the time it want involve me. Whether she enjoys her time knitting quietly or enjoys her time slaying dragons is usually independent of our relationship. Unless it's a shared hobby which is slightly more rare. So filtering date by their hobbies is useless criteria not higher standards
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:21 PM
1

Imaginary. But in all seriousness it depends on how she approaches men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 08:11 PM
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Me in my earlier life and some of my friends were like this. Generous, Kind, Hard working, curious, affable, open minded, wanted something real and not just use women as cumrags, no idea most of the time yeah. I never saw them ignore a sure thing in favor of a vapid supermodel.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:12 AM
2

Well average if he's talking about average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:38 AM
1

Real feminism is cool. Internet feminism is really great because it's entertaining to see the ridiculousness for my own amusement.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 11:32 PM
1

USE A CONDOM. i've had unprotected and protected sex. when it comes to pounding a chick, having a condom on doesn't really make it feel that different. I can't believe you said this with a straight face.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 11:08 AM
4

No, not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 05:13 PM
6

I just think that labeling stuff like "Approaching more" and "Paying for dates" as masculine is just a excuse so that men have to do more work during the courting stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 04:27 PM
1

No not really. That would only happen if the women I court decided to stop hanging out with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 11:07 PM
2

The don't mind is for the prenup the marriage it's self is a hell yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 08:44 PM
2

It is a hell yes though. It's just a hell yes with a safety net.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 08:40 PM
2

But he is doing half the job of raising the child. (Assuming he isn't a deadbeat) Also does that mean adopted children should be returned to the state in the event of a divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 08:27 PM
2

What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 06:11 PM
8

A man spends his labor on his children too you most likely aren't going down to his office and doing half his job.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 05:54 PM
1

I don't agree. There is a clear line between reason standards and demanding that people be near perfect. There is also the problem that encouraging such behaviors means superficial stupid standards become a cultural norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 10:58 PM
2

I love sluts. They are the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:05 PM
3

Both apply to the post I would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:29 PM
2

It's luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 10:59 PM
1

There is a difference between wanting unconditional love and not wanting to be a walking ATM to your GF.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:56 PM
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It's not ego or stupidity. It's being human. Men (And Women) won't vibe well with the idea that your one Financial decision or firing away from your GF throwing away a 20+ year relationship. What aspect of wanting to be loved for who you are an not what you provide is "illogical" for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:54 PM
3

What even is this subreddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 10:12 AM
2

Platonic social life is good. I have a lot of male friends and even some acquaintance like female friends. It's never been hard making friends. It sort of happens naturally. The only recent trouble is coordinating time together since we all have big boy jobs with different hours. But we do get together it's a great time full of laughs. Yes Not really Yes easily No making friends is as simple as exist in the same place consistently and people you get along with will be your friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 10:58 PM
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Not really I feel the same. We're out here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:09 PM
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Very interesting. In what aspectsis it degrading? It is men in general or how a certain group approach sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:04 PM
4

Maybe but there something missing in that answer. Simply being sexually active and be "Openly Slutty" are 2 different things after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 04:57 PM
11

I got a better question. Why do women believe sex is degrading to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 04:44 PM
1

That first one sounds like theft but I agree with the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:30 PM
5

THANK YOU!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 04:30 PM
1

I just mean I don't think gender has a factor in this specifically
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 02:52 AM
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I think both sexes are equally bigoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:09 PM
6

Not the same thing as being Incapable of feeling romantic love at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 11:21 AM
3

An actual interest counter point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 03:47 AM
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You would see women as subhuman if you think they are incapable of romantic love.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:10 AM
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Straight women rate ugly women higher than Handsome men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:16 PM
2

Size doesn't matter. And you won't know that until you talk to them. There is no way "Small penis and commitment issues" Is listed in their bio.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:30 PM
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They do but women will never find out if they don't match with them first.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:20 PM
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I can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:00 PM
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I'd trade my career for changing my kids diapers and doing house work in a heart beat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:45 PM
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Birth rates are plummeting because, more women are becoming childfree and modern birth control is more available. You also have to consider younger generations aren't having as much sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 03:44 PM
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We don't. They don't want to reconnect so let them fight. Ordinary people who aren't chronically online still connect in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:59 PM
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But it is entirely possible to do everything right and fail. That's just the world we live in. It has nothing to do being a "poor victim". It's how the world works. Dating in particular is mostly luck. All the charisma, and charm in the universe wouldn't help you if the woman in question just wasn't in the mood to talk the day you saw her or was wearing "Do not disturb me airpods in". But like I said luck can be a good thing too so it isn't really a doomer mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:58 PM
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It's not that nothing you do matters it's just that luck plays a huge role in dating. Acknowledging that is acknowledging reality. It's not a doomer thing since luck can be good so not sure where the mean "hur derp" comment came from.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:09 PM
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"Just treat women like humans" "Just take a shower" "Just talk to women" Advice that's is totally given. and it assume that you weren't doing that already. It assumes you are a subhuman idiot. You are literally in the same post saying "Improve yourself" in this post and then saying that's not common advice giving to men. Being told that they aren't good enough in their current state. Being boring, overweight and cringey doesn't stop most of the people I know from being married with a ton of chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:18 PM
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I'm not even sure what to say. So self unaware. Me: The popular male dating advice right now is quite literally "Change everything about your personality until you're perfect. Why would an ordinary woman whose allowed to have flaws date you if your not perfect. You: Never seen a single person ever give that advice. Also You: focused on making themselves more appealing they would be getting a lot more dates. they are braindead doomers who refuse to do anything to make their lives better because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:18 AM
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I don't know ask them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:54 AM
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I think it's because those assumptions get in the way of the real problem. The popular male dating advice right now is quite literally "Change everything about your personality until you're perfect. Why would an ordinary woman whose allowed to have flaws date you if your not perfect." Like someone else already mentioned in this thread. If you struggle at all with dating people assume you're a smelly loser who doesn't shower or leave basement with no friends. It's also a jarring thing to be told …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:13 AM
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I wish you luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:02 AM
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Maybe by parents in archaic cultures but I don't really think you're more valuable to society at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:59 AM
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Is this what people think being a man is? Going out at night safely and no societal expectations to settle down? Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:50 AM
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Feminism isn't blue or red pilled. Wanting women to have the right to vote has nothing to do with the pills. Most feminist are going to be blue pilled themselves but a red pill feminist isn't impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:48 AM
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You wont feel that way when women and children's safety are prioritized over your own. I've had people sexualized me unwanted and it sucks but it's not much better over here just different problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:42 AM
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I was unclear. I agree that women never liked it much. This generation of men are more likely to care what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:27 PM
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I agree. Never said it was. OP asked "Why aren't men approaching anymore." and thats the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:46 PM
2

I can tell the difference just fine. There are definitely those who demonise Male Sexuality it's not just nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:46 PM
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I feel like this a lame excuse. The fear of rejection would have always been a thing but that didn't stop past generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:50 PM
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No I mean they grew up listening to women and male allies basically demonize male sexuality to the point most see approaching or initiating as no different than harassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:43 PM
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Women spent the last 40 years basically socializing men not to approach women. What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:06 PM
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My thing isn't that women like bad men. Just that being a bad men doesn't stop men from getting women. And the inverse that being a good man doesn't make you more attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:48 PM
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As a man is option 1 most women pick option 2. They rather die than make the first move 8 times out of 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:53 PM
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I'm a huge pervert but I'm not a fan of the idea of anal. I've never done it so maybe it's just pure ecstasy but the idea never appealed to me. So I'd be completely okay with her not wanting to either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:59 PM
2

Men don't have a hard time making friends. Making friends just doesn't substitute the intimacy of a romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 05:28 PM
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I'm going to have to call cap on this one. I've treated women like human beings my entire life and it never lead to a relationship. Not saying to NOT treat women like humans just that it's not the only thing you need. There is WAY more to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 02:58 AM
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There is no age.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:37 PM
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Work in a restuarant during mother's day than tell me this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:53 AM
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But it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:50 AM
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If you can make friends then you don't have poor social skills just mediocre ones. Being a straight man dating in general is an uphill battle.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 11:20 PM
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No but women aren't a different species. A lot of the skills carry over and putting women on a pedestal like you need extra social skills to impress is something I disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:57 PM
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Well yes. If fat men get girlfriends then your weight is obviously only a factor out of many. If men who aren't 6'0" even get dates it means being shorter isn't some fatal shortcoming. You typed this like it somehow argues against my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:27 PM
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I'm saying they are wrong. How can it not be enough when people with worse social skills end up with girlfriends?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:46 PM
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My point being that if your social skills are enough to make friends at all then their good enough to get a girlfriend. Woman aren't mythical beings that require James Bond levels charm and intrigue to impress. If you can be friendly with normal men you already have the social skills necessary to date women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:50 PM
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People project what they expect. "He has horrendous social skills" but he's friends with you? So his social skills are clearly adequate. Most perpetually single men aren't so flawed they can't get a girlfriend or else flawed people wouldn't be in relationships. It's mostly about luck. Being in the right place at the right time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:36 PM
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When I was fiending for love and a girlfriend this logic didn't work because it wasn't an ego thing. I didn't feel like a failure I just wanted a girlfriend. Someone to hug at night. I was always happy being single but I WANTED to be in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:51 PM
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I don't know I wasn't trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:39 PM
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I would say that standards are indeed high if you think the average human being has nothing to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:30 AM
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I'm sure it's Do more chores if your a guy and Dump him he's probably a porn addict if your a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 10:54 PM
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Both statements are true. She should be able to wear what she wants but wearing something that will attract attention means the possibility that some creep will leer at her. People only tell women A because you can't control what other people will do but you can lower the possibility. I should be able to leave my door unlocked and announce that I'm going on a 2 week vacation and still expect not to be robbed. But alas there are people out there who take advantage of innocent occasions to their o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:25 PM
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For me it's about effort. It is feels like I'm doing all the work it feels more like I'm trying to convince you to give me a chance rather than us dating to see if we like each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:11 PM
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MGTOW = Men Getting Triggered Over Women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:01 PM
4

I would say they overestimate how predatory it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:34 AM
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I first thought this when I heard the advice given on the internet. Advice given to young men today (Both red and blue pill) is pretty much "Change every about your personality and maybe a mediocre woman will give you a chance." It made me give up on love. Mainly because that sounded so artificial and not like love.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:21 PM
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It's hard to explain. Men have a wider variety of what is considered attractive. You can think Sidney Sweeny is hot and also find that random waitress you saw at Chili's cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:24 PM
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You're a highly educated scientist that makes six figures and has extra free time to travel the world and a bunch of different hobbies but also think you're not an outlier? Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:13 AM
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Sure, but this is still in the stage when they are trying to find out if she is disinterested or just playing hard to get. If I approached women I would always take the first declination at face value personally. But I assume others have had positive results with persistence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:53 PM
0

Some women like it when you fight for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:46 PM
3

Same reason we don't learn kung fu from action movies. It's fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 04:55 PM
1

Dating has nothing to do with if you're desperate or not. It's mostly about being in the right place at the right time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:17 PM
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Not really. I just don't need a supermodel to be happy. It doesn't mean my standards aren't high enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:25 PM
1

What is the purpose of this question?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 05:27 PM
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B. She's mature which means she wont be childish about things, and Secure so I don't have to deal with any insecurities in our relationship. Option A isn't unattractive she just doesn't have anything that puts her over option B. Being gullible and naive and inexperienced don't really do anything for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:00 PM
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B.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 03:51 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 11:54 AM
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Cheat but don't get caught.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:46 PM
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The woman. I'm not trying to fight any bears.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:36 AM
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I think the "Women's standards are too high" discussion and "Traditional Women are awesome" discussion are separate talking points.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 01:50 AM
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Yeah but you're still giving up family, jobs, friends, culture and much more. But like I said if it works then hey.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:37 PM
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"I live near the border and can visit Mexico" is different than "I'm uprooting my life by moving to Japan just to make dating easier."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:38 PM
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A bit extreme but if it works then it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:23 PM
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I don't know anyone personally though I never asked. I've heard random men say it ever once and a while in real life or on the internet. I have no idea if it's a majority or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:56 AM
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Hell nah, The chase to me sounds like "I do all the work wooing women while they just exist.". And oddly I don't talk about dating with my friends so I don't know how they feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:54 AM
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Social Skills is too vague. I never understood why people who struggles, have enough social skills for the friends and family and coworker to like them but not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:38 AM
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Some men do and most don't. It's the difference between Hunting for fun and hunting because you need to feed your family.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:33 PM
1

Some hobbies or activities can take up your time but you can send text through. I've texted while at the gym or out with friends before.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:26 PM
1

3 for most 4 for friends 5 for family and stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 01:42 AM
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It wouldn't change anything. People would still shame others for partaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:54 PM
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So you're doing it on purpose gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 06:55 PM
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It's a non answer because I wasn't answering anything. I was asking if you were being obtuse on purpose. That is why it ended in a question mark. An answer would have been something like "Men mostly approach and women mostly choose between those that approach. Men pick who they approach but that doesn't make them selectors since those women have to pick them once they approach. People say women are the gatekeepers of sex and that men are the gatekeepers of relationships. But that's nonsense. Men…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 06:48 PM
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You're being obtuse on purpose?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 06:39 PM
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There seems to be a miscommunication between us. I'm disagreeing with OP's bs that women should be allowed to be pornsick and should indulge in inflated superficial standards. I don't believe in the 80/20 rule personally. But I do think it's ridiculous if average women don't find average men attractive and vice versa. If a woman is a 42 year old woman getting with a 40-45 year old man isn't ridiculous. I also agree with what you said aging isn't a flaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:49 PM
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The principal is similar but the scale is off. Most women aren't obese. Most women don't have hideous faces. The Main point being that men are still attracted to the average woman. What I'm more against is this nonsense idea that the average guy with no real apparent flaws other than he isn't a 6 foot millionaire shouldn't be attractive to some women. Like I said that would be the female version of porn sick men that won't consider a women without breast smaller than a basketball or with some bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:56 PM
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This lie that women didn't marry and date for love in the 1900s has got to end. The problem with "high superficial standards" is that we're letting women be the feminine version of what "Porn sick" men are. Can you give me a good reason why a 5'3 mechanic isn't a good lover, husband, father, provider or whatever?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:47 AM
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I don't understand the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 04:09 PM
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You can't be attracted to Sidney Sweeney and cute dark skin latina women? What foolishness is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:19 PM
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The men that want commitment aren't getting far enough to ask for it. The guys you swiped left on some of them want commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:10 AM
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A high value man wouldn't be a cheater.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:06 AM
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Being a good person isn't really something you can demonstrate to others. Especially not in the early stages of just meeting someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:21 PM
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I guess it is different. I've heard my female friends talk about it on occasion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 09:30 PM
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You've never heard women say stuff like "Don't approach women outside bars" and stuff like that? Not being facetious I'm genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 08:58 PM
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Normal women say stuff like that all the time. Next your around any women talking about dating listen to how they talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 08:34 PM
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Women themselves pretty much say the stuff you hear here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 08:24 PM
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The problem is most men are usually competing against their own desires. A part of them want to be hedonistic as possible and another part only wants to commit to one woman. These 2 halves clash in the mind. The men who complain about promiscuity and are also sleeping around usually lost that battle against their desires and let the hedonism win.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:41 PM
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Interesting. Is any weakness unmasculine or is it specifically him being cold in warm weather? I can't imagine there is no person in the universe with no weakness in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 01:31 PM
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It doesn't make you a man hater but why do you hate weakness?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 01:27 PM
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Not on a minor scale but if she was a billionaire most men would care.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 11:36 AM
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Problem with this is that it punishes the innocent too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 09:15 PM
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What positive result? A discussion with you. I consider that a positive. I'm not being reductive. I genuinely don't agree with your logic there. I like talking about it which is why I responded despite the topic being 2 days old. I apologize if my statements rubbed you the wrong way. But I am genuinely commenting in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 08:22 PM
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No this is where we acknowledge that asking people out is a part of being social. If she says no and you keep bothering her that's when it becomes a problem. It's not entitlement to ask people out the same way it's not entitlement to ask someone for directions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 08:00 PM
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You don't need justification to be social my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:24 PM
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An ick is a turn off but a turn off isn't an ick. Icks are small insignificant things that turn a woman off. The distinction is the severity of the flaw. A guy who sneezes funny is an ick. A guy with a reputation for never bathing is a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 05:29 PM
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Red pill trad lovers maybe. But most ordinary couples are going to have the husband and wife working.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 05:11 PM
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But that assumes youre the only one working.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:51 PM
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It would make a difference. I've heard many women upset that the guy they liked never asked them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:35 PM
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I don't know about asking women out but it definitely hurts something when I was job searching and getting constantly rejected. Even for jobs I was completely qualified for.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 12:50 PM
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If looks are all the 8 and 9's have then I imagine I would totally go for a 6/10 especially if it leads to happiness and great relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 05:26 PM
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This is assuming the tradcon or red pillar in question does actually hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:57 PM
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Very flawed logic. That would mean animated hentai isn't pornography.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 11:17 PM
2

How is it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 05:55 PM
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Written Erotic novels and drawings have probably existed for centuries.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 11:12 PM
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Ideally she wouldn't just strip naked and hop on my genitals. We would date for a while and continue to do more intimate things as we got to know we other.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:57 PM
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Men have standards. Just not exceedingly high standards or icks or anything like that. An sane average chick has a good chance if she has the right personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 08:38 PM
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Which pornstar?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 04:41 AM
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I honestly don't think too much about my friends. Who ever I connect with and hang out with turn out to be my friends
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 11:28 AM
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If I was person B and I didn't work at all I would just clean the house. It's not about if Person A is a excused from chores it's more so I'll do what I have time for and Person A will do what they have time for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:15 PM
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Sure. I wouldn't really care if she checked all the other boxes for relationship for a partner. even if she didn't i can't see myself caring.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 01:25 AM
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But I'm not blue pill. Dating or marrying like this is marrying with the intention of getting divorced one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 12:26 AM
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You miss understand. I'm saying you're qualms about marriage are really about divorce. The real answer here is just not to marry a woman whose making you do all the work in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:54 PM
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This sounds more like Divorce is a net loss not marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:12 PM
2

yeah I'd say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:46 PM
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No. It's more about intentionally engaging in it. Seeing someone and thinking their hot isn't the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 10:49 PM
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I'm not asking women to do nothing. Just saying that dating apps are doo doo butter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:34 PM
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I mean if both parties agree with it then pr0n is fine for a relationship. But in other cases I personally find it weird to be sharing your sexual energy (best word I can think of for it) with someone who isn't your partner. I won't go as far as to say it's cheating. But it is weird. I wouldn't watch pr0n in a relationship but totally would if I were single.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:25 PM
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I wouldn't like it. I wouldn't watch porn if I was in a monogamous relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:02 PM
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Dating Apps are garbage. Dating apps women are too pick and don't really try to at all. In real life they will atleast know how to carry a convo. But still it's the difference between nothing and less-than-nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 12:37 PM
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If these men want a clean house, they assume that any woman they get with will be capable and willing to do the bulk of the domestic labor. Toilet stinks? "Eh, she'll do it when it's bad enough". Dirty dishes? "Eh, she'll do it when she's tired of seeing the sink full." This is false. Most of the time the real reason isn't to force women to do anything but rather the guy is comfortable with his home being that untidy. It's not a manipulation tactic. the guy is just sloppy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:57 AM
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I don't want my boyfriend getting off to other women because he is in a monogamous relationship with me, and if he doesn't agree with this, he can leave. Those are my terms. This make complete sense and is the only thing I agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 11:15 PM
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I don't know about awesome, it's just a thing I'm not against. Let me ask you this would you be ok with other people kissing each other vs being ok with your boyfriend/husband kissing other women? If not does that make you anti-kissing? So your mom, sister, aunt, Yes it'd bother me but only because family and sex is always icky to think about. Female friend I wouldn't give a fuck whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:10 AM
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Not really. It's about boundaries and how view sex itself. Being not okay with people dicking down your SO on camera is pretty reasonable. Being ok with other people filming and uploading their nudes to the internet. How would that make you anti-porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:55 PM
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I would. If I'm looking for a date instead of a business partner I don't see why I would date this women if she is enjoyable company.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 11:49 PM
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A 50k earner can have spending money. If they live reasonably within their means. A guy could be a 200k earner and need 190k of it to go to bills and debts and not really have much to spend on leisure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:32 PM
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I don't even understand why there is an agenda to this. Like if you posted "Women have longer hairstyles then men usually" would they argue? Would they bring up women that have short hairstyle? I don't get it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 11:34 PM
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Women are not just as horny. Not to say women aren't horny at all but nowhere near as men are on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:57 PM
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Would you be ok with a guy watching Hentai or reading pornographic comic books?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 12:48 PM
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I struggle with communication because I have to walk on eggshells not to be misinterpreted. Every conversation feels like a game I really don't want to play. If that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 12:27 PM
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First things first cheating isn't about you so don't say stuff like but still I wasn’t enough? And Second. Yes there are loyal men. A lot of people don't cheat i promise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 02:54 AM
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You pretty much described me. My parents moved out to the suburbs when I was like 11 and I spent my teenage years not being able to do anything interesting because you needed a car to go anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:23 PM
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Welp, women have that luxury. It's best not to dwell on that or try to win them back.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:52 PM
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It's not. Simply being attracted to women and wanting to have sex isn't predatory, no. But even outside this sub it's demonized. Like that discussion where people were saying men liking shaven women was because it reminds me of children or some rubbish.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:08 PM
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You misunderstand what's really being said here. It's not that women are loved unconditionally. (Most guys would agree they wouldn't date an axe murdering cheater who takes astrogolgy seriously.) The idea is that women are liked for being normal human beings meanwhile as a man you have to go above and beyond to be worthy or love. Or at least it feels like that for some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:00 AM
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Male sexuality is seen as predatory. So the assumption is subconsciously going to be that he prefers that for negative reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:52 AM
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Not that I don't believe these totally made up statistics. But I would appreciate some credible sources
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:49 AM
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Many people erroneously confuse being nice with having no confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 03:42 PM
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Sex zone is really only really hot but like awful personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:42 AM
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Me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:56 AM
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I disagree with this. As a former Nice guy myself it's more like "I'm being nice to you because I want sex but I also want to know you and endear myself to you."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 06:10 PM
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I've seen women who settle down with low body counts start to be promiscuous and cheat because they feel like they missed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 11:30 PM
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I don't know because all 3 are unrelated to each other. Being a criminal doesn't stop you from playing videogames in your downtime. Do you think they get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:47 AM
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No, it isn't. A degenerate is like someone who beats up old people for their money and break in to people's cars for fun not a guy who enjoys relaxing with a harmless video game.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:31 AM
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You were a degenerate because you played video games and masturbated?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:13 AM
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I think both men and women demonize male sexuality. Other men definitely perpetuate the negative stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:25 AM
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I would love to keep talking to you about this but I feel you're quite plainly not replying in good faith. I've said about three times that the act of making friends alone is no big deal but this thread is about approaching. Have a nice evening.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:56 AM
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The part where you make friends isn't more difficult it's the act of initiating the process especially as a man where the difficulty comes in.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:24 PM
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Whether it's for a new partner or a new friend the point being the approaching people and making conversation is becoming more difficult because of up and coming societal pressures.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 10:50 PM
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I can't see guy 2 existing in good faith. Why would she love guy 2 but make him jump through those hoops. In this example she doesn't really like guy 2 and just wants his resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 10:35 PM
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Male sexuality is demonized. All one would have to do is open their eyes. Outside of like 2 scenarios simply finding women attractive has been turn into "objectification". Male's sex drive are seen an filthy and demeaning. It's in the language people use. In the assumptions people make when you're a guy who asks for dating advice. Male sex is for some reason seen as predatory. I'm not saying any of this to feed some gender war or to saying woman are no better. But just an observation from how pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 10:25 PM
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There is also the small problem that you have to approach and talk to new people for them to eventually become your friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 10:13 PM
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Who ever invites the other on the date should pay. If you meet on a dating app yall should split.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 01:08 AM
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You're missing the point. That guy is a stay at home husband. The women in that comment section are just saying they wouldn't hate having a partner that does all that stuff even if he had no job and they were the breadwinners.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 02:36 AM
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The Average guy gets desired. Do you guys really live in a world where only rich guys and models have girlfriends?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 01:57 PM
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It's a gradually buildup that's only really relevant when sex is involved. It's not like if I hadn't nutted in a week, I would make stupid decisions about which groceries to buy. So it isn't constantly. It would matter more if I was on a date or trying not to be seduced by a female coworker where I might make the screw up. So a PNC pill would be useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 12:31 AM
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Your name is goose boy so I'll assume you're a man. Do you like women? probably not every woman but definitely like some women and are indifferent about the rest as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 08:08 AM
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In my experience women like being submissive. Being able to rely on a capable man and follow his example turns women on. Edit: i'm being downvoted but the top comment on this thread is pretty much saying the same thing I'm saying. Reddit is a clown site.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:04 PM
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See you just fell in my trap card. I pulled this example from an old reddit thread. I switched the genders and the woman was claiming it was rape. It's not always clear cut.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 03:50 PM
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it's not so black and white your example is too clearly rape. What if a guy and girlfriend are canoodling while her parent are downstairs and then when she tries to escalate, he expresses discomfort in doing it while her parents are home. She then proceeds to tell him "Don't worry about it. We'll be quiet." and continues. During the sex he seems like him going along with it. Is that assault?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 03:42 PM
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drunk sex isn't rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 05:42 PM
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Sorry to hear you went through that. Thank you for sharing though. I imagine that there are a ton of stories like yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 05:32 PM
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I mean were you asking out cute girls in the library?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 03:33 PM
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I think it's a mix of both. When people think about rape it's usually some scenario were some random guy pulls an unassuming woman into the alley and forces her. But we know that most scenarios actually play out more subtly than that. There are a percentage of men that know using your strength to overwhelm a woman is 100% not consent but maybe don't understand doing there girlfriend while they are sleeping could count or that coercion is only really technically a yes and not actual consent. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 12:45 AM
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It's also easier for women to date and get into relationships imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 09:19 PM
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I'd do it. It's a lot but I would love more time cooking and with my hypothetical kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 09:09 PM
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I don't know woman aren't really initiators like that. And if this guy reapproaches and gets a positive response then it's more complicated than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 04:02 PM
2

So you'd be ok with your boyfriend or husband uploading problems he has with you to the Internet behind your back? Making fun of you to a bunch of strangers? Not coming to you directly but passive aggressively roast you for likes and views?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 03:05 PM
2

How many people talking online are abused and how many are just upset their husband is doing enough laundry for their liking?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 10:15 PM
4

What is the risk exactly. What does herpes actually do to your body?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 08:54 PM
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I mean if sex isn't something you can earn why does it matter that men don't need to "grow as a person" or commit to get sex. I hear women enjoy sex too. So it's probably not really a positive or negative for anybody in particular. It all depends on the individual man and woman in each case.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 06:08 PM
2

Let women get divorced for frivolous reason if they want and if she wants to take my money I'll help her look for it. because I don't know where it is either lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:46 AM
1

Male 25, How they make me feel Positive personality Looks/ Shape Willingness to please sexually Money they make All that other shit is equally unimportant to me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 03:17 AM
9

No, just don't mention or make a big deal out of the lack of experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 01:57 AM
2

I'm not really capable of telling if another man is more attractive then me. I'm not a good judge on men's looks as a heterosexual man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:51 PM
26

D. Wanting to have sex with me isn't an insult to me. I guess I'd feel bad for not liking her back but forcing some kind of connection would be worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 01:57 AM
2

Mediocre is starting to mean 1 date every five years it feels like.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 01:58 AM
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I think it is but would like a formal answer just in case I'm mistaken.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 12:34 AM
2

Why wouldn't women want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:42 PM
2

from an outsider looking in. Emotional Intelligence sounds like some gen z buzzword people came up with so that people can be mad at men for not reading minds. Maybe I'm wrong though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 10:25 PM
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Video games aren't the problem. The problem is that everything is becoming further apart and more expensive. Me and my brother grew up playing video games and we aren't desperate losers who don't know how to talk to girls. I personally think this "Male loneliness epidemic" is overstated. A combination of growing up and all your friends are busy with work plus people here in the west have overcomplicated dating way too fucking much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 02:38 PM
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men stop asking women "wyd" every 5 minutes. make a genuine effort to get to know her. holy shit. i've never seen a more "wyd" generation of men. Okay, maybe a foreign concept to you. But what if you answered if what you were doing and the conversation evolved from their? "What are you up too" "Whats up" "How do you do" It's been effective communication since 382 BC but now it's bad form?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 02:02 AM
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The Dadvocate on tiktok. She's sane and supports both men and women's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 11:21 PM
3

If she wanted to she would.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:09 PM
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Nah you're tripping homie. A hedonist isn't someone who simply has sex for pleasure. Sex serves multiple purposes. Reproduction, Bonding, health benefits, intimacy This would mean everyone who does anything pleasurable ever is a hedonist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 09:50 PM
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I think a better answer is Average people are better than this sub give them credit for.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 10:48 PM
0

What the fuck are you waffling about mate?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 10:36 PM
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The woman in that video doesn't even seem unattractive. I think she's just looking for an excuse. She's probably making things harder on herself some how.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:47 AM
2

How tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:08 PM
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The whole point is trying to get women to realize that short guys can still be sexy and great boyfriends and generous lovers and all that crap. Not forcing women to date unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 04:03 PM
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I think different people have different clocks. I don't think 3 dates just the standard. If you are not a huge slut it might take longer than 3 dates to be comfortable with sleeping with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:08 PM
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It's less about women need to lower their standards and more so about getting women to see that certain standards are superficial and don't really define a relationship. Mostly thing like height and income. Stuff like character and interests have been taking a back seat they feel. There is also a element of realism here. If a ordinary man wants a a busty blonde super model tier woman with pornstar grade curves and he's just a guy no one tells him that "His standards are fine or else he'd just to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:03 PM
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I wouldn't care. It'd actually be a funny story.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:30 PM
1

but not because of the n count. mainly because of it sounds like she would do most of the annoying stuff I hate about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:29 PM
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Ladies and Gentlemen I present to you "How to make sure you are single forever."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:55 PM
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Do you have a link to that post?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 11:06 PM
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No date a woman who didn't go to college.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:30 PM
3

No but we can emphasize that being beautiful is a superficial quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 04:27 AM
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More men are willing to be house husbands. Not saying every man would be but I could hardly imagine women actually being okay with their man just at home cooking and cleaning but not making any money.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:59 PM
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Easy solution for the dating apps. Only swipe until you have 5 matches instead of 1 hundred.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 03:04 PM
1

So what you're saying is just be yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:04 PM
3

they are probably Alpha bro types that are trying to sell a course to gullible guys
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:50 PM
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Convenient. From your post you volunteer at soup kitchens so you're not a total degenerate. You should give yourself more credit. but even if you are shitty you said shitty people find dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:45 PM
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Ok but WHAT personality and personal choices exactly. Your own words are saying it's not about Mental Illness or Financial success. It's not about hygiene or being smart. So what exactly do you lack that a obese mentally ill guy doesn't exactly is the question here. From your world view it seems like it's just stray luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:23 PM
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Now I’m terms of romantic relationships and dating, I do agree… it’s not difficult whatsoever. Even if you’re shy or introverted, it’s not impossible. It seems like all these people who complain online want to blame society and don’t examine their own personalities / behavior / attitude. I disagree with this bit here. Having a good personality and attitude don't really guarantee anything and lonely people are the nicest and greatest people I met. I personally think dating is mostly about luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:15 PM
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How can you not see the the cognitive dissonance in you own post. Let me ask you this and I want you to be completely honest and vulnerable with me on this. You say Go outside and you'll see all types of people in relationships. You'll see pretty and ugly people holding hands, thin and fat, tall and short, well-dressed and poorly dressed, smelly and perfumed, smart and dumb, kind and cruel. I occasionally volunteer at a soup kitchen and I literally see homeless men and women in relationships the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:03 PM
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I don't know why the women here act like they don't care about body count either. If they met a man they really liked I bet it would be a very unpleasant surprise if they found out he fucked every woman in their neighborhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:10 PM
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But poor men still got married. If you look at literature through out the ages you hear stories of romance where the women are willing participance. I'm just shooting down the "Women had no choice at all in the matter" because they had some wiggle room to not date an undesirable man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 07:57 PM
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No necessarily true. Woman throughout history could choose. Only women who had their choses taken away were usually high class or royalty. Poor people with no assets didn't have arranged marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 07:51 PM
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There is no magic number. It depends on when both you and him are ready. There is a balance. Most guys don't want to date a slut that's going to fuck anybody but also aren't going to want a woman who think sex is a disgusting act and barely tolerates it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 06:44 AM
0

But that's his point too no?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 01:18 AM
0

For me specifically. Blue eyes weird me out sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:47 PM
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These aren't really standards they're icks. Innocuous things than can turn me off. It doesn't even always have a 100% chance of icking me. Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:43 PM
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- Women who hate chocolate - weird laughs - blue eyes - short nails - likes sports - open toed shoes - Too much make up on eyelid - Complains too much
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:17 AM
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His point is that this "Self Improvement get rid of every flaw you have" mentality is toxic and that guys don't need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:46 PM
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What factors specifically are stopping you getting a girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:04 PM
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There is no age. Being a virgin itself isn't a red flag. If you're spewing incel rhetoric that's a red flag. If you act like a normal person most people don't even realize you are a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 06:51 PM
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I would say. Just date like a normal person. Being a successful stock broker or whatever doesn't make them any better than a janitor or anything. Most men won't care about their job. But that not a negative it just means their personality and how much they enjoy their company matter more. Only thing I would take special care to is to vet out insecure guys who think men are supposed to be providers and your a beta if you girl makes more money types.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 02:57 PM
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Why is it so hard to just date as a successful woman. What makes you different from any other woman exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 02:37 PM
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Do men you're already sleeping with really call you a whore if you tell them you prefer it slower in bed or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 11:15 PM
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but still valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 10:47 PM
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I'm 25 now I think the oldest I willing to go is 34-35.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 07:08 PM
2

You posted evidence in your own post and then ignored it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 07:36 PM
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The word "Average" means somthing. by definition a vast majority of people are average and 2's and 3's are outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 05:14 AM
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These men also bring up how women have tons of matches on social media while failing to realize the majority of these matches mean nothing because maybe 1 out of every 10-15 matches is actually someone a woman would want to date. Which is better than a mans usual zero options. These same men are those who probably aren’t swiping yes or showing interest in women that are actually within their league. Men only focus on the top 30% of women and completely ignore the rest. This is cap for several re…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 05:12 AM
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Just because a man shoots his shot with a 10 doesn't mean he wont pursue a 6 or a 7 he finds attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 03:31 PM
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Speak for yourself I've never looked a a stepdad or a guy who dates a single mom like this,
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 08:05 PM
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It's not uncommon. Dating is hard and mostly based on luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 08:28 AM
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ordinary women do this all the time. They call them icks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 07:27 PM
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I don't see the point. Why does it matter if the woman is 18 or 21? 18 year olds are fully capable of making adult decisions. The only reason one might not be able to is because we as a society have started babying your youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:01 PM
3

You need help.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:54 PM
4

Tales of love an romance date back to as far as the beginning of humanity. This has to be the stupidest post on here including all the stuff Lilith and the red pill spew.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:50 PM
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Yes but having sex isn't really a high bar or some grand condition. Pretty much anyone can have sex. I would consider that to still be valued for who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:38 PM
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Dating is like 96% luck. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:06 PM
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What men here have to say don't matter. There are millions of examples of Step parents happily being step parents and normal parents that adopt kids. Your argument simply has no legs to stand on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 05:28 PM
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Many do raise step children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 05:20 PM
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women arent cared for being "who they are" either. When men hit on women its because of what they think the woman can give them (sex) not because he intrinsically values her for who she is. is. I disagree here. This only applies to men seeking hook ups but people in relationships like their girlfriend because of who she is as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 05:20 PM
1

I get a good laugh out of it sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:40 AM
1

Because Modern men haven't changed much. Men today still have to work to provide for their families, and fix all the broken crap around the house. The Only difference now is that women also have careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 01:52 AM
4

Hey Coaches don't play.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:41 PM
4

I personally shave my legs. but I don't think I'd mind hairy legs that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:35 AM
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ALL MEN, no exception, are very sensitive to physical appearance. Except Blind men no? But on a serious note. I think you are making a mistake. Men do indeed appreciate High tier beauty. But that doesn't stop them from appreciating Mid tier and low tier beauty as well. Scarlet Johansson in $10,000 worth of make up is indeed a 10 but the cute girl I saw at Walmart earlier today is still also attractive. Men care about looks above ANYTHING else. Depends on the man and what he wants. Obviously men …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:33 AM
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No silly. I'm saying if she were limited to everything I do I'd be ok but I still want her to shave her face meaning I don't want a bearded lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:02 AM
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Other than Shaving her face then I wouldn't mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:29 PM
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Ok i got to ask. 2 questions Are You guys who get virgin shamed walking up to women and randomly mentioning you're a virgin? Are you ashamed yourself of your virginity. I'm only asking because I don't really see women virgin shaming guys all that often.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 09:27 PM
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Men go after all kinds of women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 12:43 PM
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Virgin, Small Penis and Low sex drive don't make sex bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 10:05 PM
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No. Most male dating problems come from how much effort it takes to woo a lady. this pills would solve any problem so much as just delay the moments between when guys cared about the problem again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 09:03 PM
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I would say that if you need alcohol to be social you're the one who can't socialize normally.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:46 PM
5

I think you deserve sympathy too. Someone clearly hurt you in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:40 PM
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You should feel bad for them because their options were ass they were screw from the beginning and thats a little tragic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:36 PM
3

Well lets see. Men have to be the ones to initiate everything. - You got to hope she finds you attractive - When you approach to got can't just be yourself. That too boring you got to have james bond level charisma and swagger but you can't come on too strong and scare her away. - You can't get too sexual too quickly but you still got to excite her to the possibility. - You also have to keep her entertained and interested through out the night - Note that some bullshit ick or red flag can ruin e…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:06 AM
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The world used to be like this and then human decided it was better to work together in communities rather then savage your neighbors.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 03:24 AM
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Because they're stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 03:19 AM
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Most men agree. A women being carreer focused is not a negative. We just make a point to point out that it's not much of a positive either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 12:56 PM
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The juice aint worth the squeeze. I more complain about how much effort has to go into a relationship just for me (the guy) to get just a little bit of attention and appreciation. I don't mind not having a girlfriend I moreso dislike how much effort is required for a bottom of the barrel relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 02:19 PM
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I feel like if women think most men aren't sexual attractive they are whatever the female version of porn sick is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 08:16 PM
3

Lowering standards isn't about dating people you find unattractive. It's about not letting superficial standards rule your dating life. Think about it like this. If a women only dates 6 feet men but there are a ton of 5'9 men (Still taller than her probably) that would love and cherish and treat her like a equal partner. No one is saying you should be dating neckbeards just that a lot of men get stop at the door for something that didn't actually matter when it comes to relationships. and that a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 05:22 PM
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Why cant we as men do the same? Men don't have the options. If we become picky and eliminating women based on things that don't matter a ton of men would never find love. There is a certain trap with standards too. If they are too high you eliminate a ton of great women over stupid things that don't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 05:09 PM
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No, My parents met at the gym. My dad would have been socially obligated to not make the best decision of his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 05:06 PM
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No mans sees all of that happen and then thinks it's real. People CAN tell the different between fiction and reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:54 PM
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It's not comparable because a woman could discreetly cheat and keep it a secret and have you living a lie for 30+ years. Murdering your spouse is in no way discreet and illegal where cheating isn't so people wont have the same moral boundaries. A person is more likely to cheat than to commit a felony.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:41 PM
3

This is a reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:38 PM
2

If most of the people in this sub aren't 13 I'm actually surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:17 PM
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There is a third option. Date an man you're attracted to who wont cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 01:08 PM
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For once you raise a good point. Nice job.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:58 PM
6

If you have to put conditions on it than they aren't hornier.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:28 PM
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Why don’t you try genuinely treating women like human beings who you are interested in just being friends That's all well and good but it won't get you a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 02:14 AM
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