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LOL. The burden of proof is on you if you're implying that you know me better than I know myself. I've got nothing to prove to anyone. I shouldn't have expected better than ye olde TRP response of "I know more than you about your own mind, reptile-brained female, because anything that challenges my version of reality proves me wrong, and that is unacceptable" ... but alas, I can browse corners of the internet such as PPD and come out of it with my faith in humanity unscathed. It's both a blessin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 07:08 PM
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Pfft. Right. Because you've known me since birth, haven't you. Look, it is what it is, whether you believe me or not. If my only option is a good-looking dude with a honestly repulsive personality, I'd rather go home alone. Meanwhile, a just-alright dude can make himself attractive by being great to be around. Again, looks matter. Yes, I was more receptive to good-looking dudes when on the dating market. Also yes, if a guy was physically unattractive to me in all ways, then I wouldn't consider h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 12:12 AM
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"Looks don't matter" is such a lie, and as other women have pointed out, it's one we have been taught to tell ourselves from a young age. And we do get such contradictory messages too! On one hand, the Chads are always the villains of most romcoms... On another hand, have you met a romantic hero who hasn't been described as dashing, charming and handsome? Bonus points if said romantic hero is also an asshole, which of course he is, because what is healthy conflict even? So yes, I think this is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 08:58 PM
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I, too, am hot for the five-headed Chad-snake. No one can resist him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 06:43 PM
2

Because you end every sentence with "m'lady"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 09:22 PM
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I enjoy 3D-modeling and 3D-printing stuff, but I was taught how to do it by men (or women who were themselves taught by men) so it doesn't count either. And I can't name all the kinds of printing filament that exist so I guess I'm a fake fan.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 08:57 PM
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Are you suggesting men should treat women like people? How dare you. I tend to agree. The best flirts I've met had great social skills otherwise - funny, witty and genuinely interested in other people, be it men or women. There's something really earnest about good flirts that men who are faking emotional interest cannot emulate. Might as well be, you know, honestly interested in interacting with a woman beyond fucking. I don't know, just a thought. But I do think it's different. Flirting is not…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 08:52 PM
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While I agree the historical power imbalance between men and women plays a part when it comes to unwanted touch, I do find that it is a double standard, and one that drives me insane. I hate being touched by strangers, ergo I do not touch strangers. It should be that simple. I'm not sure why some women think that touching someone that doesn't want to be touched is appropriate at all - just because the power imbalance works against you it doesn't mean it's okay. Now about that girl - her reaction…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 01:55 PM
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I get why women want older men, and why men want younger women. But I still raise an eyebrow because dating as you put it is more than sex. When sex is all said and done, there's all the other time you spend together and if you're willing to put up with poor companionship just to have somewhere to stick it in (and/or an in-house maid?) then yes, I will judge you. That's what I always wonder when I see relationships with a large age gap (assuming it's legal, otherwise their problems are greater.)…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 10:48 PM
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Many of us don't actually consider it a privilege at all. It comes with a great deal of negatives. I'd gladly trade the ease with which I could have sex if I wanted it, for knowing that all men around me see me as an equal and take me seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 07:19 AM
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These movies are usually produced, directed, and written by men, so blaming that narrative on anti-redpill ideology and/or feminism is definitely a reach. Persistence being enough is far more of a male fantasy than it is a female one. Men want to believe that it really is that easy, that there is a formula. There is no formula. What works on one person will not work on another. People looking for some sort of detailed manual need to earn some social skills ASAP instead of trying to use the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 08:59 PM
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We're talking about women in relationships here, which I'm not sure any dude who calls himself nice should be trying to have sex with. If the argument these guys are using to justify their goal is that they are "nicer" than the other guy, then the very fact they are trying to get two people to break up should clue them into the fact that they are not as nice as they think they are. And what has this got to do with the blue pill, exactly? The women often tell these guys in no uncertain terms that…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 01:34 PM
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It's a bit of a reach to pin this on blue pill. It's not them telling dudes that they are entitled to sex if they just try hard enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 05:50 AM
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That is a problem for sure, but not what's causing beta orbiters to harbor the fantasy that a pretty girl will break up with her boyfriend for them. These dudes tend to believe they are entitled to the girl of their dreams, and it's not the woman's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 05:47 AM
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Look, some women do love pretending that looks don't matter - but that's not the problem here. It's still bold for these guys to assume that their personality is somehow "better" than that of the girl's boyfriend... all the while pining (at best) and trying to get a happy couple to break up (at worst.)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 09:00 PM
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The language behind the titles is part of the reason why I don't want to get married (to my bf of almost 8 years) - in my language they translate to "owner" and "woman" and I find that incredibly demeaning. My boyfriend does want the titles because he doesn't think about that kind of thing that much, and I suppose we'll probably get married at some point or another for financial reasons. But I'm not as big on the institution of marriage as most.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 08:33 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 06:32 PM
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Most guys would only give me the time of the day when I was willing to dumb myself down and downplay my successes. Not doing so was the best way I found to throw out the trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 05:15 PM
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There we disagree. I've seen plenty of women harassed in both. But on one account you might be right - women try to gravitate to online spaces that are less hostile to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 08:27 PM
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You're seeing the reality you want to see. Women are consistently harassed in certain online spaces - incels and misogynists are everywhere. Not to say there is no misandry online, but to imply that women are free to be online happily without any backlash and that men only find shaming and criticism is disingenuous at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 08:08 PM
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Women are encouraged to display emotion from childhood. Men are told to repress their feelings. I think that's all there is to it, in terms of your anecdotal evidence. I think men and women lead fairly similar lives nowadays in developed nations, so I'd imagine the incidence of unhappiness (be it depression, anxiety, etc.) would be similar as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 08:29 PM
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No matter how many insecurities you have, if you see the best in yourself, you can make that part of you more evident and women will notice too. If you feel unlikable, that's what you'll project, and viceversa. I know this seems like cliche and feel-good advice but I find it to be a pragmatic approach. Also, I hate to say this (and it's not personal!) but perhaps you'll never get your shit 100% together. You can't stop living your life until some invisible milestone happens. If my insecurities h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 07:33 PM
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The Chaddiest dude I ever had a thing with had awful game (due to his being so gorgeous that girls just flocked to him - as I did) but was all around a good straightforward man. The reason it didn't go further was that we both agreed it wasn't what we were looking for (yeah, really, I was not impressed.) Not all the Chads are nice - I have met hot men so disgusting in their personalities that they end up being repulsive. But for that reason I find it hard to think of them as Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 06:29 PM
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You're trying to make sense of pedophilia and sexual assault. I'm not sure that's how it works. I want to believe cases are reported more as of late because now we understand it to be just that (pedophilia and rape) but I fear I am being optimistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 08:09 PM
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Not with that attitude. If you don't believe you're worth a girl's time, why would she? I've met guys that I personally would have never gone for in a million years, who are happily married or in LTRs with pretty, funny, charming women. They know what they have to offer, are confident about it, and know what kind of woman to go for.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 09:14 AM
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What status quo? I don't quite understand the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 07:13 AM
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It's not a men vs. women thing, give me a break, men tell white lies too. But for argument's sake - Why not both? I used to say just no, but some dudes have deluded themselves into thinking I was playing hard to get. So the lying started. It used to be that I'd let men down gently at all occasions because it's easier than trying to determine who is dangerous and who isn't. Easier to just assume (in that situation alone) that all men have egos the size of an elephant and that they will only leave…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 10:37 PM
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Yes, she is. Melanie is a woman who supports other women, shows courage in the face of adversity, is 100% loyal to her husband and other loved ones, sees the best in everyone, and often ignores her own needs to help those in need. She does so with zero expectations of the favors ever being returned. She makes her marriage work (though she frankly deserves better than the people around her) and raises a well behaved little kid. We all have met women like this. Let's not pretend they don't exist. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 09:14 PM
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If anything this shows that TRP is stuck in the 1930s (if not the 1860s) Also y'all discussing Scarlett as the epitome of womanliness and selectively ignoring Melanie, who cares little for the frivolities that occupy Scarlett's mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 07:30 AM
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All women become their mothers, that is their tragedy. All men do not, that is theirs.. I wish I was half the woman that she is. I particularly admire how calm and collected she is in any given situation and how she's so open minded and continues to develop new hobbies and learn well into her 60s. I've inherited my dad's neurotic tendencies (I love him and also admire him tons, but really, his mind puts him through a lot of suffering) and have spent my entire adult life trying not to become him.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/19 10:13 PM
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We're living in times in which people can no longer entertain themselves and continuously push that responsibility onto others. Change is a pretty easy way to keep things "exciting" as it goes, but there is plenty of excitement in stability too - stability doesn't have to mean monotony. There is something extremely cool about discovering new things together, working toward shared goals, and learning new things about each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 09:43 PM
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It's the other way around really. Why would I even go for them? These men signal quite clearly that they don't want to get serious. Why would I pursue such a man for a LTR? Why would anyone do that to themselves? It's not fear of being hurt but common sense. These men are not inherently better than the more stable/loyal dudes in any way, so the choice is obvious. That is also to say, if a man had his playboy days but then decides he wants a LTR, then that is entirely different. It's all about be…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 09:33 PM
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If I went for a player (which I did in the past) it was when I was looking for something casual and would have assumed he and I were on the same page. It's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 01:34 PM
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Short and wiry joke's on you I am 5ft tall. Seriously though, it depends on much more than that and on the individual woman's taste. Even if he were shorter than me I would prefer that. I never found either short men or skinny men as unattractive as other women seem to. In contrast, a chubby/fat man has to be extremely charming for me to find them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 10:07 AM
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In broad strokes, these dudes want children because they get to be dads, not moms. If they had to handle what we do, many of them would nope out. Society/gender roles still tie women more closely with managing a household and raising kids, so this is why childfree women feel the need to be louder. Men don't get the pressure that we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 02:14 AM
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To be really fair, that comment alone would make a lot of women not want to date you. Beyond the bartending thing, perhaps your views and your personality are not compatible with those of the women around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 05:33 AM
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You're probably naive if you think of this as more than just a song but I'll let you dream. Otherwise, no sane person is going to say anything about you fantasizing over a 17yo that sexualizes herself, as long as you're not being an active predator. Whatever happens in your head is yours alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 09:24 PM
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I'd say "no, thank you," but some men think this translates to "not now, try harder."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/19 06:18 PM
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Both of them sound like awful options to me, but if I had to pick then #1. He at least is the straightforward, open, honest kind of douche. No man is under an obligation to "wait for me" if our relationship isn't working for them (though I seriously doubt I'd wait) and as long as they break things instead of ghosting me then fair tbh. 2 sounds like the sort of "nice guy" douche that is unable to assert himself yet complains that he never gets the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 06:24 AM
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I would. Not sure my boyfriend would be into that. I'd honestly prefer the proposal to be a pragmatic gesture rather than a romantic one (mind you, I am generally a hopeless romantic, but I feel like for such a momentuous step there needs to be more than feeling.) We have talked about it and we want to stay together forever, so everything else is noise to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 12:25 AM
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Keep in mind I am speaking of behalf of my past self here, been in a LTR for over seven years so all of these experiences are drawn from before that. I suppose it's less "good enough for me" and more "we're fundamentally incompatible." Had a one-night-thing with men who were cool, but still didn't feel like it would work out. Had one-time-things with total douches too. Had some men try to pursue more than that but I didn't go to pubs to look for LTRs. Now with my bf, we had a friends-to-lovers s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 11:48 PM
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Why? (I ask because this mentality is the default to me so I struggle to see things differently.)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 11:28 PM
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I perfectly understand that a man who feels like this is not worth my time. And to answer the last question in your post - yes, that is exactly it. For argument's sake let's say sex is transactional - The one-time dude is only worth a literal single fuck. A long term dude is worth every fuck I can possibly ever have.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 11:25 PM
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The thing is, I have neither the time nor the energy to debate feminist discourse on a thread about male issues, and a response of mine that deals specifically with the role of patriarchy perpetuating them (regardless of the way this system came to be, and regardless of whether I think it's right or wrong; that is absolutely irrelevant in this context.) If you want to say something about my main point instead of forcefully try to pull me into a tangent I have no desire of discussing, then let's …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 07:40 PM
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if you don't see yourself being in LTR with this person, you probably shouldn't be having sex with them. Who is any of us to judge? I don't need you to answer that (please don't) but I'd like you to ask yourself why do you think it's okay to put these limitations onto other people. Unless they are lying about their intentions, they aren't hurting anyone. If you don't want to have sex without a connection, that is great! You do you. Some people want to enjoy sex without committing, and that doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 05:59 PM
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It's kinda funny that of all points of discussion on the subject of men's rights, you're trying to take me on this massive tangent (still putting words in my mouth that I clearly did. not. say.) Not doing this. Have a lovely one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 05:28 PM
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A long way to go in achieving equality in terms of who's in power (inb4 "but women can be in a position of power too!") You are putting a whole lot of words in my mouth that I did not say.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 12:42 PM
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All I am saying is that these systems that oppress men are upheld primarily by men. Not sure how hard that is to grasp. Women might be complicit - they are, and toxic femininity often takes advantage of situations in which men play a losing game. But saying that the position men find themselves in it's 100% women's fault is shortsighted and disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 09:09 AM
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I'm not your personal dictionary, go look at one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 06:24 AM
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Institutions of power are still largely run by men. Executive/judicial govt systems more specifically. We've gone a long way, still have a long way to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 06:09 AM
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Men trying to place the blame of this on women alone, as if this hadn't been a thing before feminism... That is some impressive mental gymnastics right there. Western societies are still largely patriarchal. We are all raised this way. It's not just women rolling their eyes at men who get raped, or female judges being more lenient in sentences where the perp is a woman, or deciding dudes in the US don't need paternity leave. Men are still largely in charge and y'all need to learn some accountabi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 03:38 AM
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A good-looking man is good-looking no matter the race. Some of those dudes are damn fine. Now K-pop diehard fans can take everything out of proportion, but that is a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 09:07 PM
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I've read too many crazy ex-girlfriend stories to count. Abuse, infidelity and lack of consideration can go both ways. But for smaller "crimes" - notice when you listen to both sides of any story, everyone wants to believe they are the victim. It's also easier to place the blame on others than to place it on ourselves and it takes a lot of honesty on both sides to figure it out. Unfortunately, there isn't always enough to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 08:58 PM
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I will admire a good pair of arms (my own definition of good - and hey those you can show off!) and will stop on my tracks for a beautiful face. This doesn't mean I would like to fuck them though - just that I find them aesthetically appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 06:15 AM
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I've met perfect 10s look-wise that end up being a total 1 as soon as they open their mouths. Many of my biggest crushes (both as a teen and early adult life, before my current partner) were below average on a hotness scale but had other traits I appreciated (sweet, clever, funny, etc.) I think of my partner as a 10 all around but I am obvioualy biased. And I learned the hard way never to go for a perfect 10 if you just want to fool around. They get girls easy so they do not make the effort to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 11:26 PM
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A woman would have still been shamed. Not called an incel but definitely desperate, etc. I can't speak for Americans since I am not one, but I'd say sex/romance while traveling is quite a niche interest. Pubs and bars and parties will advertise themselves to the demographic they want to catch, which does not mean most travelers will participate in those activities. Many travelers are in groups or with a long-term partner or simply do not care for that life. But I will review what we both have sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 09:10 AM
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You'd be surprised. Either way, my point was that it wouldn't have been appropriate had the genders been reversed which makes it not a gender issue. But for argument's sake let's pretend a woman was asking something more aligned to what RPers believe to be feminine sexual nature. Let's say she was asking for advice on how to get a boyfriend when traveling. I find that dating advice would still be inappropriate for a travel sub, because most of those people are not here for that. At best she woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 08:52 AM
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I think men should probably be taught to have a healthier relationship with emotions, both their own and in general. But this has little to do with any support network they might or might not have.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 02:30 AM
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I just think it was an inappropriate question for that particular subreddit. If it was a woman asking the same question, the topic would have been controversial all the same, so I'm not sure the gender really matters. Bars/pubs/parties are a good place to meet women, perhaps the only one in which a certain level of sexual advances is acceptable. Or you can always download Tinder I suppose? Heard stories of people using it successfully while traveling.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 08:13 PM
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He knows my reddit username, but he doesn't care enough about gender issues to come looking around. I wouldn't care if he did.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 12:04 PM
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I find the assumption that this is may be biological a bit outlandish. I think it's how we're socialized. Men are punished if they complain while women are usually rewarded. If I complain about something bothering me in my relationship, it's usually in the line of thought that it's better to have it all out in the open than to hold everything inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 06:23 AM
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Okay, but OP doesn't get why this is hurtful. Even without ill intent (not always the case) it's still hurtful to lose a friend like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 08:02 PM
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My n-count is a bit fuzzy to me - went home with more than a handful of dudes even when sex didn't happen, I cannot recall honestly how many of these encounters turned sexual in some manner, or if it counts. Penetrative sex would be one (just my current partner) other forms of sexual activity would be between 2 and 4. Didn't want to have my first time peopwr with a stranger for fear of pain (I was still a teen.) Boyfriend has a low n-count too - two that I know of. Wasn't a "pick." I care little…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 11:41 PM
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Dude. OP is clearly TA and needs to get out of her friend's case. They just fucked. Friend used dick for a ride. Sex doesn't need to be a statement on social justice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 10:43 PM
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An active role in her life would be nice - as it would for every uncle (and sibling.) You have zero obligations here though. No responsibility at all. I'd even recommend keeping some strategic distance so the child does not get too attached that they want more from you that you can give.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 10:11 PM
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I'd argue that "not-like-other-girls" nicegirls are going through their anger phase. I know I did, and I wish I could apologize for it - though I don't know if I did any damage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 11:22 AM
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Men as a whole need to want this change. So far, the idea of some expressions of masculinity being toxic (to themselves and other men as well) offends them to death. Not going to happen soon, sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 08:55 PM
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I find fuckboy to be an extension of the term dudebro but with a sharper connotation. Men, usually misogynystic, with the mentality and priorities of fourteen-year-old boys. Men who use n-count and drunken escapades to measure their own worth and are otherwise horrible people. Definitely a shaming term, sure, but not in the way you think. Men can sleep around without being fuckboys and I've met plenty of fuckboys who can't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 05:36 AM
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You are taking your personal experience, your tastes in women, and your assumptions about what women want, and interpret it to mean that the dating world is on a crisis for all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 04:24 PM
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Dudes can make clear that they are interested without being clingy. Makes life far easier than trying to guess. It's when they fail to see rejection cues that it becomes an issue and this applies for women too. I don't see how this fake double standard applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 09:42 PM
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Yeah, that's an unhealthy behavior. You don't want to be with a girl, you want to play games.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 07:13 PM
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It's an idea too deeply ingrained in pop culture for us to get rid of it in only a few years. You will see this mostly in media geared toward men - men "gets" the girl with little to no effort, sex is a recompense for him saving the day. In media targeting women, the woman's sexual desire is generally acknowledged and the relationship builds up so sex is a moment of connection rather than a reward for anything. So I definitely agree there is a disconnect in how men perceive female sexuality and …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 06:43 PM
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All hypothetical but still opinions. Hardcore childfree. Don't want em, never have, never will. Hypothetically, if the kid was old enough that they wouldn't bond to me as a parental figure, I'd consider it. So basically not a kid anymore. Kid or no kid, I'd judge them for having an affair either way and would say they are 100% not LTR material. But that's not on the kid at all. In the case of divorce, not at all. To me the fact that the man is divorced would in general raise a red flag until I k…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 05:00 PM
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None of what you wrote makes any sense. If all you want is sex, no need to pretend to shoot for a LRT - use tinder, go to parties, find women who are specifically looking to fuck. They're plentiful if you know where to look. If you want a LRT, do you really want to achieve that by lying about who you truly are and/or abusing your partner? If a man can't ever make it past the second date, he is clearly the problem. No need to become an even worse person past that. Question 1, I don't think lettin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 04:34 PM
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Even if I were single and this were applicable, I wasn't put here in this world to be a homewrecker. Plenty of fish in the sea, etc. I did hold attachment to guys who entered LTRs after I'd become interested, but that faded away quickly enough and I didn't do anything to break them up. I have seen this, however. I think we all have. Not sure if it's that big a trend but it definitely happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 08:11 AM
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If I were suddenly single I wouldn't be interested in a relationship at all. I don't think that makes me "special" but it's definitely not a mentality adopted by most people I know. I loved singlehood. A LTR was never a lifelong goal for me - I just happened to run into someone whom I wanted to make this work with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 04:09 PM
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So we're talking social skills here. Nothing else. And I'd agree men with social skills know what red pill dudes have to fake if they want to get laid. All that without the sort of misogyny that is rampant around TRP. Women today are not the same as we were historically. We have rights, and a different set of values. Using historical examples of behaviors that appeal to women doesn't quite cut it. The whole idea that women say no to play hard to get, or that a "real man" should be forceful in ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 07:13 AM
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I, for one, am extremely glad that we can be more self-aware than ever in the way we analyze our own behavior when dating. It allows us to set boundaries and recognize toxic behaviors (and good ones.) You seem to be surprised by the fact that ethics in dating always existed, just like with any other interpersonal relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 10:18 PM
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The subreddit became visible to me when they started brigading r/amitheasshole. Not a good first impression. Now I am all for men going their own way but there is no need to be a dick about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 10:11 PM
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You'll need to define toxic femininity for me to answer. I do nothing that I would personally define as such... I don't abuse men then claim to be the victim, and I don't play weak or dumb to get others to do my job or to attract dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 01:10 AM
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I worked customer service. Dudes flirting when I was working and had to be nice to them was a nightmare. When I worked call center in my early 20s, there was a regular who would usually call and said lewd things to all of us girls. Lately it happens a lot less but in my childhood (!!!) and teen years it was really common to get catcalled, stared at, etc. Male classmates would feel free to touch any girl if they knew they'd get away with it. No matter who you were as long as you were a girl. I wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 04:15 PM
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In other words, there is no one type of man that appeals to all women, and women actually do have rather broad tastes. I mean, no shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 07:45 AM
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Dudes will go for it, but in the end it's no different than paying for a sex and they know it. Only this sex worker is more akin to an anime body pillow with fake feelings and holes you can fuck. Nothing wrong with that. I suppose this will do it for some men, but we are humans and most of us actually do want more than that. ETA - Not to mention that if they pass the Turing test, perhaps you'll find yourself in an Ex Machina sort of situation. Perhaps they can decide to go against their programm…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 07:16 AM
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Neither of us are jealous people, but neither of us have raised massive red flags for the other. I had two male roommates for a year? No prob. He constantly gets hit on by women at his previous work? That shit is hilarious (validating even.)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 12:50 PM
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I grew up in a third world country where machoism was the law of the land and waw was definitely a thing. It seems to me (observation alone) that the less egalitarian a patriarchal culture is, the more waw you'll see - seems to stem from the fact that men perceive women as being far more different from themselves than we actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 09:52 PM
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The tone is abrasive to make members feel better about themselves and to make the ideology far more circle-jerky than it's healthy. Same can be said about radfems, before anyone says I am targeting unfairly "something that is not for me." If the movement was genuinely about men's rights (to anything other than to fuck) I'd take it far more seriously. As it is, it's the male response/equivalent to the radfems who have ruined feminism and given it a bad name. (Edit: typos)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 09:30 PM
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Well, yeah. There I definitely hear you. Thin women get a lot of crap, and most of it come from people who are jealous of their small size (doubly so if staying thin takes little to no effort.) I don't think that women speaking of their bad experiences with achieving the ideal body type means that all thin women have had an awful experience in that sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 10:15 PM
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You're down from "women treat men like crap so why shouldn't I treat them like children?" to equating this to a performance in which you tell yourself "women are like children" so you feel like you can talk to them eye to eye. I feel like it's two different worlds and sentiments altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 10:08 PM
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I used fully established in this case to mean having stable employment with long-term prospects. And I am not talking about LTRs but marriage as a contract - I'd ve wary of entering an arrangement like that with someone who isn't financially stable enough to support themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 03:26 PM
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Fall for a hard-working person whose life goals don't require mooching off of you. Don't marry before you're both well-established in a career path. Goes for both genders, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 09:16 AM
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I think the irritation is at the notion that it's always soooo easy to be a skinny woman. True that for some it does come naturally, but breaking bad habits and addictions (which food/sugar can be) is far harder than "just keep your mouth shut." It's kind of like telling a depressed person "go do yoga you will be fine :)" or to pretend that quitting smoking is simple. If it were so easy for all, no one would have shitty habits.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 01:48 PM
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Lol because obviously your experience can be extrapolated to all women./s Some women have a faster metabolism and better genes - good for you! Other women don't have it so easy and have to be far more mindful of what they eat. It's that simple. How about we don't generalize?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 01:33 PM
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Not putting someone on a pedestal is very different to infantilizing them. You might be the most good-looking man in the entire world - for all I care (and I know I am not alone) holding ugly opinions is a strike against you. I've met good-looking men that I came to perceive as repulsive after some conversation, and you have said nothing to make me trust you on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 10:00 AM
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Women already consider most men to be below them. So treating women like children/teenagers really just seems to make sense at the end of the day. Source? Women already consider men without money below them. Yeah, I tend to be judgmental of single adults (men or women) who cannot earn enough to support themselves (or aren't otherwise on their way there - college, etc.) Then again, I'd say that's a rather low standard. Women already consider short men to be below them, both literally and figurati…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 09:53 PM
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The times which I spent counting calories were the most miserable of my life. I was doing all to feel better, but the more I tried to fit into an ideal the more I felt like shit. Try having parents who called you fat since you were a child, making you feel like all your worth relies on your looks, micromanaging every bite that comes into your mouth... Try to do that without developing a fucked up relationship with food, exercise and weight. (I was not fat - i look back at pictures of tiny!me and…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:43 PM
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The fact that so many men have jumped to deny female beauty ideals being hard to attain blows my mind. You are all doing the same thing OP claims we do. Just because thinness is the only requirement for you to consider someone attractive doesn't mean that is the ideal. I am also baffled some men think they have to be ripped for women to notice them. Most women I know honestly do not care. They like a six-pack and some muscles, maybe, but it's very rarely a must-have.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:04 AM
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The ideal of female beauty includes far more than just being skinny. If a woman has small breasts and butt, she is compared to a 12yo boy. No. She has to be skinny with "meat" in the right places - but fuck gravity, your big butt/breasts better be perky because otherwise ew, what are you, a grandma? Have a broad or big nose? Tough luck, better start saving for surgery. Big curly hair? Straighten it up. Too short? Good luck in being treated as an adult woman altogether. Too pale and/or refuse to …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:57 AM
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I have seen people questioning the 80/20 theory on PPD precisely because no one can back up those numbers (and I have been here for around three days.) No one can be expected to come into a sub centered on gender debate and immediately accept a baseless claim as fact because "this is how we do here." Until I am shown some reasonable numbers from a legit source, I will think of it as TRP dogma that I am under no obligation to take seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:44 AM
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I definitely look. I don't stare or make remarks, but an appealing face (male or female) is hard for me to entirely ignore. I never want to fuck these people at all. They are just great to look at. Still, would never make it obvious to my boyfriend that a gorgeous man just passed through. That would be disrespectful.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 11:13 PM
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Funny claim coming from a subreddit so obsessed with men's wealth acquisition and how women supposedly negatively impact it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 11:05 PM
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Sources for all your claims? A man doesn't have to look like the supposed ideal to be considered attractive either. Different people find different things attractive. When a woman says "muscled but not gym-obsessed" she might mean more things than you realize. Perhaps she likes just a bit of muscle, or just feels gym selfies are a step too far, or fears she'll be misinterpreted as favoring hardcore body-builders.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 10:54 PM
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I think that trying to cage either men or women into a single group and making blatant generalizations about them is just silly. I've met plenty of both solipsistic and nacissistic people of both genders. I've met empathetic and self-sacrificing people of both genders. Perhaps the difference is that, if wr talk about how we are socialized, women often get the message that their value is tied to how attractive they are - and therefore feel more pressure (or need) to showcase themselves as attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 10:42 PM
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You put it in words. Thanks. This is how I feel about how this sub treats gender in general. I think socialization plays a rule in certain trends which need to be acknowledged for both men and women. To try and turn them into general truths and life philosophies is just too much though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 10:25 PM
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First of all, both sets of characteristics aren't mutually exclusive. Some of the loudest guys I've met are also the most loving boyfriends. A guy who presented himself as quiet and sensitive and totally my type ended up being manipulative and emotionally abusive. And I wish I could say I only fell for that sort of bullshit once. But I made the same mistake twice because things are more nuanced than TRP would want to believe, and there is no cookie-cutter mold for terrible people. We all want a …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 10:21 PM
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The ideal of male beauty (which I personally don't find all that attractive) is difficult to attain - but the same can be said about the ideal of female beauty. These women also spend hours at the gym and religiously watch their diet. I am not sure this is a gender thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 09:59 PM
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What is so feminine about caring for things? All the men I know 100% care about things. Whether it's their gadgets, action figures, books, wristwatches, living space, automobiles... we all care about different things and I see no harm in using our expendable income to procure ourselves a healthier/better standard of living. I am confused as to how this is considered a "corruption." This upwards mobility is a natural and expected trend, especially when both halves of the whole provide and advance…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 08:57 PM
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I was never groped by older men as a child, and if my friends were, they never mentioned it. We were lucky to grow up in a sheltered environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 08:24 PM
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By the age of 13, all of my friends group had sexual harassment stories to share, many of them including groping by peers whenever they could get away with it. It's depressing, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 08:16 PM
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The last time any of this truly applied was when I was 15 and had a lot to learn. Do I compare myself to other women? Sure thing. Most women I know are skinnier than I am, for example, but they have made healthier life choices so yay for them! I have learned from their habits and tried to adopt them but, well, I don't see it as a competition. I want to look a certain way and that has nothing to do with them. Regardless of attractiveness levels (which are subjective) I think we can all afford to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 07:03 AM
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Women seem to be more selective with partners, which is why the status quo is what it is. Men express interest whether we want it or not. Women tend to be seen as ugly or desperate if they initiate things too often. If this were to change with the new status quo, I'd trade in a heartbeat. But well. To me the ideal world would be one in which none of these stigmas existed and neither gender would have unfair expectations placed on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 06:49 AM
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If you take any of the 20 year olds that you seem to be sleeping with (you said you are in college which is why I am assuming an approximate age) I would agree they'd make bad wives, not because they're feminists who enjoy casual sex, but because they are 20 and in college. It's not like you are husband material right now, right at this very minute - and it's fine. A lot of women will cheat, and this has nothing to do with their views on sex. The same goes for men. Men who have had their fair sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 06:38 AM
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I don't think it's a gender thing. Higher earners are at risk. Victims of abuse are at risk. Younger people are at risk. People who jump into a marriage and do not realize what it entails are at risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 09:17 PM
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1) Fuck yes. 2) Some women do, some don't. It's more nuanced than that though. There are some telltale signs of a Nice Guy(TM) but it's not always obvious at a glance. 3) Genuinely good guys come in all forms and shapes and it has very little to do with looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 09:10 PM
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