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I’m a gay man so both months are important to me. Sadly I think Pride Month and Men’s Mental Health Month are both being taken less seriously. To be honest, even last year, Pride Month seemed a lot more low-key, same with this year. A large part of that is because of conservative rhetoric that Pride is about BDSM parades or stuff like that. Yes, some people engage in that, but for most of us within the LGBT community, pride is a month where there is more visibility, so hopefully less of us feel …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/25 04:57 PM
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I think what some people forget is that while feminism is a part of progressiveness, progressiveness isn’t just feminism. It’s possible to be liberal/progressive while also seeing the flaws of feminism. Conservatives do the following: - Judge men based on how “masculine” they are. They love telling men who show the slightest bit of “femininity” that they’re “not real men”. - Enforce the provider and protector mindset. This mindset is what keeps men away from their kids. Yes humans need jobs, but…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/24 02:07 PM
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You do raise some good points, but I’d like to give my reasons as to why Selective Service isn’t hugely necessary: The US government already has everyone’s data, so if a draft was ever needed, people could be called up from government records of everyone. This means that Selective Service is just a waste of taxpayers money, so even if you support conscription, selective service is not needed to bring back a draft. The US volunteer force is already huge. America is part of the five largest armies…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/24 11:04 PM
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Selective Service is one thing I’ll never understand. Hopefully one day the whole system is abolished (along with changing the definition of unorganised militia in the US code).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/24 09:30 PM
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I’m not saying women don’t face any danger. Of course women face danger! But depending on where you live, danger is much different. Me and other guys are more fearful of being beaten up, since large groups of men love to target men walking on their own, but they pay no attention to women. But women I’ve spoken to say they’re scared of being harassed by creepy old men since it’s happened to them before. It just goes to show that everyone is in danger. It may not be the same danger, but it’s still…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/24 10:13 AM
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If women talked that way? Unfortunately I’ve seen a lot of women who do talk that way to men. many people still believe that men can’t be victims of women. people already dismiss make loneliness. growing up, most of my friends were girls, and believe me, girls are just as judgmental as boys when it comes to physical looks.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/24 07:15 PM
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I live in the UK, and I think rape laws need to be changed. Currently in the UK, a woman cannot be convicted of rape, because the law states that rape has to involve “penetration…with a penis”. If the law changed to reflect that women can indeed be rapists, then maybe men would actually feel comfortable reporting if they’ve been raped. Also now exactly a law, but I think the government needs to look into how to improve the overall performance of boys in education. There’s been so much programmes…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/24 04:57 PM
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Something I’ve noticed is that even today, people don’t realise how messy life was after the Second World War (or any war really). Why? Because only the soldiers who had good experiences share their experiences. Most soldiers who had bad experiences in war refuse to discuss what they experienced. I think that’s why loads of people believe soldiers loved doing their duty and society rebounded quickly from war. Not enough people realise how horrible war really was, because they only hear stories f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/24 12:17 PM
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So let’s get this straight…it’s Men’s Health Week and they tell us to…not be violent to women? I understand the intentions of the message, but I dislike the assumptions it makes that all men will eventually become violent. Sorry if this comes across as selfish, but shouldn’t Men’s Health Week be about how men can better themselves? Calling men “perpetrators” is deeply problematic. Stereotypes can’t be broken if people refuse to let them go. I would have expected something positive to be said abo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/24 10:20 AM
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It’s so ironic because conservatives call themselves “the party of family”, yet they have no problems sending their sons off to die. I really don’t get how anyone can call themselves a parent if they’d happily let their child die because of what’s between their legs. I’m just saying, it was the (Republican controlled) House which passed the section to make registration automatic for men, so why do they stop at women? I get it, some leftists have a problem of putting women above men, but some con…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/24 09:59 AM
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This is why I don’t like conservatism. In their eyes, we’re just disposable creatures who are supposed to put women first, and somehow we’re “fit for war” (spoiler alert: humans aren’t mean for war, so either remove selective service altogether, or make it gender-neutral, because as dark as it sounds, I’m not responsible for the safety of random women I don’t know). But don’t forget though, the National Coalition for Men still has their court case, so even if the NDAA doesn’t end up requiring wo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/24 09:50 AM
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That’s a very important point! Here in England, the current PM promised to bring back national service, but loads of people have opposed it, and very few people are going to vote for him anyway. The one thing politicians care more about than passing laws is remaining in power. This is why voting and vocal opposition is important. If politicians see that a policy will cost them their positions, they’re unlikely to pass or support those policies, and if warmongering people aren’t elected, then it …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/24 09:27 AM
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The Senate’s version of the NDAA has a provision which will require women to also be registered with Selective Service, so there’s some hope that they’ll end the sexism with selective service (I say some hope because we all know what happened last time they tried adding women….)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/24 08:28 AM
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18 year olds were forced to fight in wars for centuries, yet until very recently they weren’t allowed to vote. Britain didn’t let 18 year olds vote until 1969 (which was after Britain ended mandatory national service for men). America didn’t let 18 year olds vote until 1971 (which was after hundreds of young men had been forced to fight in Vietnam). Australia didn’t let 18 year olds vote until 1974 (which was after national service ended and men had been forced to fight in Vietnam). Many fightin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/24 02:35 PM
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I do agree, and I am grateful that feminist groups such as the National Organisation for Women have indeed tried to have women included in the draft multiple times :) The issue I see though is that many feminists downplay the draft, dismissing it as a non-issue. Even though the draft isn’t currently active, it’s still an incredibly sexist law, and I understand feminists have other priorities, but it’s disheartening to see feminists say that the draft isn’t a real issue. The government could very…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/24 06:07 PM
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The funny thing is when they say “the draft won’t be used”. If it won’t be used, then why not just abolish it? And why do people oppose women fighting if “the draft won’t be used”? Also, the government already has everyone’s information, so there’s genuinely no need for collecting the names of people “eligible for the draft”. NCFM is filing a case against the Selective Service again. On the one hand, I’m hopeful this time will have better results, but on the other hand I wouldn’t be surprised if…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/24 04:46 PM
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I see this so much in the dating world. I’ll often see random men on social media being compared, usually a “feminine” man and a “masculine” man. The comments are full of women claiming “we want real men, not feminine men”. Here’s a thought…maybe men dress up and behave in certain ways for themselves and not for others? The same way women dress up nicely for themselves, men present themselves a certain way for themselves, not for others. I often see the double standard when discussing haircuts. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/24 06:55 PM
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Some societies did indeed have gender equality, for example the Vikings had both male and female warriors. However, for the most part women didn’t fight. Very early society did in fact have a lot of gender equality…depending on class, but not when it came to hunting. Generally speaking, men did the hunting and women watched the children. Women did of course hunt, but not as much as men. In early society, here’s how gender roles may have operated in classes: Upper-class: this was the class with t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/24 04:52 PM
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Three things: Men are the ones who actually challenge the draft in court. Look during WW1, WW2, the Cold War era…it was mostly men who challenged the legality of the draft. Women have been complicit in the drafting of men. Look at the white feather campaign in Britain. Think about the amount of mothers and wives during the Second World War who expected their sons and husbands to fight. Only powerful men make the rules. It’s 18-25 year olds who are most commonly drafted. In the US, 18 year olds w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/24 09:07 PM
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About your forth paragraph…wait till feminists realise men are the majority of assault victims… If I tried defending a woman from a violent situation, I’d probably end up getting assaulted because I’m not physically strong enough to fight anyone. I will help my friends out of uncomfortable situations, but I’m not dying for anyone just because I’m a man. At this point I’m convinced feminists are trying to make up their own definitions of “masculinity”, which is ironic because I thought feminists …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/24 12:41 PM
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When it comes to men and women being praised equally, it really really depends on the context. Nowadays some people praise men for the bare minimum while not praising women for anything, but other people praise women for doing nothing while criticising men despite them doing more. For example, when it comes to parenting, women aren’t really praised for being good parents because people see parenting as a woman’s duty, but men do often get praised for “babysitting” their own children (as some peo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/24 11:58 AM
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That’s very well put! I remember when I first saw online women “dating coaches”. I ignored them because they’re just random people online, but the fact that there’s so many who are really popular is quite concerning. Those “dating coaches” have encouraged women to call guys “broke” for not making 6 figures and affording expensive things, and it’s pretty obvious that women are falling for that advice. I’ve seen so many comments online of women calling men “broke” for not wanting to be a personal …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/24 11:29 AM
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The reason I’m on this sub is because I’m left leaning. Here’s the thing: men’s issues aren’t a left problem or a left problem entirely, they’re a people problem. A societal issue. The left cares about men’s issues in the context of everyone, for example, mental health. But rather than accepting the fact that men in particular are struggling, they have to make it a problem for everyone because “men can’t be oppressed”. The left has a problem of making everything about women. Remember when before…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/24 10:49 AM
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I understand that women picked the bear just to make a point about how unsafe they feel around men. I really do understand that. But women also need to accept that men are going to be annoyed hearing that. The same way many feminists hate being lumped together with misandrists, many of us hate being lumped together with misogynists. It’s possible for me to understand the intention behind the “man v bear” debate and to be annoyed by it at the same time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/24 08:06 PM
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Notice how if a man said any of that, he’d be called “sexist” for assuming women are weak and have no power. But when a feminist says it, it’s supposed to be enlightening…?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/24 04:31 PM
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That’s awful! I just quickly searched up 40 Days and 40 Nights and the reviews are a perfect example of how male rape is ignored. People call the ending “offensive” and “disappointing”, yet they don’t use the word “rape”. Another one I remembered is Whatever It Takes, in which the man is tied up and left for other partygoers to play with. It’s not rape, but it’s still disgusting.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/24 11:06 AM
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Horrible Bosses (2011) - women, who are bosses, rape their employees, men Weird Science (1985) - not rape, but a grown woman has a relationship with two teens, including giving them their first kisses, showering with them etc. No one ever seems to call that out though, the only thing ever called out is the misogyny of the film. Three in the Attic (1968) - three girls kidnap a man who cheated on them, tie him up and take turns basically raping him to the point he is hospitalised I can’t remember …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/24 10:03 AM
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There’s an awful film called Three in the Attic. Just read what happens in the plot on Wikipedia. It’s an awful film, and if the genders were reversed…well, we all know what would happen….
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/24 09:45 PM
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This sub in particular is important for three reasons: It gives us a place to discuss issues without feminism overtaking it. I’ve seen people try to bring up men’s issues in feminists spaces in a polite, genuine way, yet the comments all tend to dismiss/downplay the problems or somehow turn it into a discussion about women’s oppression. I’ve realised that men aren’t welcome in many feminist spaces. There are other men’s spaces, but many of them don’t allow criticisms of feminism or any viewpoint…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/24 11:35 AM
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I live in England, and yes things like racism and sexism exist, but wealth is the real issue. Ever since the World Wars, the British have been very critical of class divides, because that’s what really causes oppression. Of course racism exists (imperial/colonial attitudes and racist sentiments during periods of mass migration in the second half of the last century). But in England at least, people of all classes can be both rich and poor. Of course sexism exists. But again, men and women can be…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/24 09:12 PM
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I’ve done quite a lot of research on second wave feminism, and the main leaders such as Betty Friedan never blamed men, instead they blamed societal structures as a whole. Feminists who blamed purely men for everything (such as Valerie Solans and Ti-Grace Atkinson) tended to be rejected by other feminists groups. I’m with you, I have no idea why now feminists suddenly seem to think that all men are “oppressors” and women are 100% “oppressed”. When I was younger, I actually felt included in femin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/24 09:06 PM
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An example would be Islam. In America specifically, leftists are defensive of Islam. Don’t get me wrong, I understand why (Muslims still face a lot of discrimination and racial stereotypes), but quite a few leftists refuse to question Islam, either because they’re scared of being labelled Islamophobia or because they genuinely believe criticising Islam is Islamophobia. But many Islamic teachings and beliefs align more with right wing politics rather than left wing politics. As I stated, prior to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/24 09:00 PM
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I realise I worded that badly. I’ll edit what I originally wrote, apologies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/24 05:32 PM
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The worst part is if you choose to identify as an “egalitarian” instead of a “feminist”, some feminists will instantly accuse you of sexism because “feminism is already the answer”. It’s why I’m gradually leaving the mainstream feminist movement. As a man, I constantly get attacked for “mansplaining” in feminist spaces so I’m starting to give up. They can’t beg for men speak up for them and then tell men to be quiet, it has to be one or the other.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/24 05:10 PM
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Although I consider myself left wing (I’m definitely not right wing), I find it funny how many leftists will defend minorities who are ironically right wing. Minority religions and cultures are defended by the left, but I feel like if prominent right wing politicians were less racist, those minority groups leftists love to protect would all be voting for the right. In America for example, a lot of Muslims who were Republicans switched to voting for Democrats after 9/11 not because they actually …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/24 03:26 PM
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That’s why we need men fighting for men’s issues. Feminists “introduce” men’s problems if that make sense, but then abandon them. For example, they said it was okay for men to be emotional, but as soon as men showed emotions, suddenly men are “too emotional and dangerous”. I mainly find it annoying because they tell us to find our own spaces instead of discussing men’s issues in feminist spaces, but then complain “why aren’t you a feminist? MRAs are toxic!”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/24 03:13 PM
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Feminism has always been about “gender equality”. However, feminists didn’t fight for men until around the 2nd/3rd wave of feminism. First-wave feminism was primarily about giving women the right to vote. There were also social and cultural changes for women (women’s clothing changed, it was more acceptable for women to ride bikes etc.). Women in that era were known as the “New Woman”. However, this wave of feminism was quite limited. It was mainly for white middle-class women. Women of colour w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/24 10:07 AM
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Feminism has always been about “gender equality”. However, feminists didn’t fight for men until around the 2nd/3rd wave of feminism. First-wave feminism was primarily about giving women the right to vote. There were also social and cultural changes for women (women’s clothing changed, it was more acceptable for women to ride bikes etc.). Women in that era were known as the “New Woman”. However, this wave of feminism was quite limited. It was mainly for white middle-class women. Women of colour w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/24 10:05 AM
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Feminism has always been about “gender equality”. However, feminists didn’t fight for men until around the 2nd/3rd wave of feminism. First-wave feminism was primarily about giving women the right to vote. There were also social and cultural changes for women (women’s clothing changed, it was more acceptable for women to ride bikes etc.). Women in that era were known as the “New Woman”. However, this wave of feminism was quite limited. It was mainly for white middle-class women. Women of colour w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/24 10:05 AM
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The excuse the Supreme Court made back then was that they couldn’t hear the case because Congress was “actively discussing” changing the all-male requirement for the draft. I’ve had a look through the Congress website, and there is currently a “Repeal Selective Service Bill” but there’s no current bill challenging the all-male draft, so hopefully the Supreme Court actually has to take this case into consideration (assuming that by the time a ruling is decided, Congress doesn’t introduce a bill b…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/24 09:14 PM
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I remember seeing the NCFM first mentioning this on their website in January. Hopefully this case works in their favour. Even people against drafting anyone should support it, because if women are required to be drafted, it would likely increase pressure to end draft registration altogether.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/24 04:54 PM
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Instead of sending young men to fight, why don’t they open up voluntary military registration to everyone and allow anyone to sign up, including old people….you know, the ones who love war and support military service for the young despite the fact that most of them have never fought in a war? It’s crazy that after two huge World Wars and many civil wars, people still haven’t learned their lesson. People still claim that society can rebuild itself if men die but society can’t rebuild itself if w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/24 12:28 PM
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Think of it this way….men commit more crimes, but why? When other groups commit more crimes, people actually want to know why. For example, areas with high rates of poverty are more likely to have more crime than areas which are wealthy. Does that mean we suddenly hate all poor people? No! Instead we show sympathy to the poor and actually put time and effort into fixing the root causes, whether it it totally ending poverty or providing support for the poor. So now ask yourself this….why should m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/24 11:26 AM
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I’ve always felt this: if you feel like you are a man, then you are a man. I may not be a “manly” man, but I am definitely a man.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/24 12:23 PM
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Thank you very much for your comment :) I still do support feminist causes, but I do so from a distance now because very often different perspectives aren‘t very welcomed by feminists. I will continue to support their core issues, but I just don’t get involved in the movement as closely as I used to. I hope that one day the environment is less hostile so I can contribute more often without being seen as sexist or dismissive of women’s issues. Thanks again for sharing your perspective :)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/24 08:33 AM
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Oh wow, I’m so sorry to hear all that! I really hope one day you’ll find acceptance because you deserve it, and your existence is valid no matter how you choose to present yourself :)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/24 07:42 AM
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I’m a tall non-masculine man. I can say that unfortunately being tall doesn’t make life better. Us non-masculine men sadly lose either way 😔
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/24 08:47 PM
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I’m a cisgender man and I can safely say that I have never had it easy. I spent all my years in secondary school trying to avoid getting beaten up (I had a lot of socially conservative people in my school who could not accept non-masculine men). But feminists tell me that I “have it easy” because I am a man. I wish they’d understand how hard it is for men. I’m not saying men have it worse than women, but what I am saying is that men have different struggles which women won’t understand, in the s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/24 08:42 PM
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This sub is the closest but people here downvoted me for not calling myself "anti-feminist" Unfortunately we live in a world where the “if you support them, you hate us” mindset has been incredibly normalised. I hope you are able to find acceptable whether it’s from others or yourself :)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/24 08:12 PM
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I suppose as social beings we all have the desire to fit in somewhere, but as I’ve grown older (perhaps wiser also) I found it more important to be true to myself than fit in with a group. I love that wording so much! I think society has now normalised the “if you support them, you hate us” mindset. We all deserve to be treated with support and acceptance regardless of what we may identify with. I hope you’re finding happiness and acceptance in your life :)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/24 08:10 PM
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I think you perfectly encapsulated how I too feel about feminism! The problem I have noticed is that if I ever try to bring up a criticism, I’ll be treated with hate and accused of being misogynistic. It‘s a shame because feminism is still very much needed in society, but I understand why people are starting to distance themselves from the movement. I think feminists need to actually address problematic issues within the movement rather than just saying “that’s not real feminism” any time it’s b…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/24 08:07 PM
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