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And the thing is, even if it is a person, with all rights, it still doesn't have the right to use another person's body for life support. It's why I'm not forced to donate blood to a dying person, even if I was the person who put his or her life at risk.
/r/MensRights26/03/12 01:36 PM
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No, it created an advancing society which both genders benefited from. Women did not have the freedom to survive without a husband. A man didn't have the freedom to be a stay at home dad. There were huge inequalities for both. And considering that all societies have treated the average woman better than the average man Depends on how you define the word 'better'. If being a stay at home mother with the freedom to mostly take care of the family and the home, sure. But if a woman had desires that …
/r/MensRights08/12/11 09:47 PM
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Those societies advanced and prospered. Society as a whole, but it was extremely oppressive to women and minorities. Not a model I want to see utilized simply because of the balance tipping so much in the men's favor. stagnating and collapsing Eh? I'm not sure I'm following? Technology is progressing a great deal every day. And there is a large number of freedoms that weren't even considered 70 years ago.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 09:42 PM
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It worked for MEN.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 07:57 PM
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"You haven't demonstrated how these will reduce privilege to nothing" It is still a better plan for complete equality than simply taking rights away from half the population. You'll probably never have it completely equal. Yet you would be satisfied if the equality was tilted, just in men's favor. what will be different this time around? And we have already had a time when there was less rights for women compared to men. What will be different this time around? Unless you believe that it was bet…
/r/MensRights08/12/11 07:55 PM
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As for a conservative solution: you accept reality that can't be changed and base your solution around it. Which seem unbalanced and even more unfair for women than it is for men now. which will work for the vast majority of people How will it work for women not having equal rights for men? I'm not seeing this as a good compromise. And please, who are these vast majority of people you are speaking of as well as the 'not working for everyone' crowd?
/r/MensRights08/12/11 07:47 PM
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So your suggestion is to remove responsibilities from women to balance it out? Seems more unfair for women than it is for men at the present. The privilege issue has to be worked on either way, so why do you feel that it's important to take away equality first and work on the privilege later? Why not skip the step and work on privilege now?
/r/MensRights08/12/11 07:44 PM
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Where are the legally codified rights concerning murder different for men and women? Or are you planing on somehow being more equal than equal? That's the point. There needs to be codified rights concerning murder for making them equal. It cannot be a sentence that is left to the whims of the judge. As it stands right now, it is no where near equal. The laws need to reflect that. HOW? Pcarvios had an opinion on the topic that you didn't reply to or didn't notice that seems pretty sound. http://w…
/r/MensRights08/12/11 07:40 PM
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So where do you believe the problem lies and what do you see as a solution? Do you see it in the whole of the female voting bloc? The only solution I can see that won't tilt the balance in favor towards men is to socially change the mentality that women are more valuable than men.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 07:29 PM
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My only problem with the cap is the burden it places on the children of the irresponsible parents. Do you feel that this is a fair price to pay to eliminate unwanted pregnancies? I don't like the idea of children being punished for the sins of their parents.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 07:24 PM
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But in a system of equal rights, there won't be different sentences for men and women. And because women have different privileges than men, your suggestion is to take away some of the women's rights as compensation instead of trying to work on the equality issues inherent in privilege? And where does male privilege factor into this equation?
/r/MensRights08/12/11 07:09 PM
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Actually, it's the opposite. Those with degrees are more likely to be conservative. And those who are liberal, tend to have higher IQ's. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/02/100224132655.htm And how do you get that equality = female supremacy?
/r/MensRights08/12/11 06:33 PM
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Yup, bye now.
/r/MensRights16/10/11 09:24 AM
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There was no expanding of definitions on my part. Sex is determined by both phenotype and genotype. Phenotype can be changed to a very large extent by our current technology.
/r/MensRights14/10/11 07:57 PM
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Maybe you should take a biology class or two. Then you will see that chromosomes are a very poor way to determine sex. And see, born with a dick is not part of a phenotype. Having one is. A trans person who has had corrective surgery no longer has one.
/r/MensRights14/10/11 06:46 PM
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No, you don't have the right to get what you want. But you do have the right to not get what you do not want. But you did want it if you managed to sleep with the person. There are certain things that are private to the individual, past medical problems that are not contagious and not debilitating are just some of that. It is up to the individual to decide when and to whom that knowledge should go. Not yours, not just a casual sexual partner. Anyway, I would let them know if I was informed. And,…
/r/MensRights14/10/11 06:38 PM
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Do you really think it would be that interesting?
/r/MensRights14/10/11 05:58 PM
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Then you disagree with the biological, psychological, and neurological community as well. Nothing wrong with having your own arbitrary definition for things, I guess.
/r/MensRights14/10/11 05:56 PM
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Sure, you can have a preference. That doesn't mean that your preference is always justified. I could demand to have a preference for anything arbitrary. Doesn't mean I have to get what I want. It's perfectly alright to sleep with someone even though they would feel violated if they didn't know about your history? Not having that. It's not anyone's job to tiptoe around a hangup. If you have a problem with sleeping with a trans girl, it's up to you to let them know this. Well, obviously. But you s…
/r/MensRights14/10/11 03:19 AM
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Just because someone has a problem with something, doesn't mean that they are justified. If you have such a problem with having sex with trans people, don't hit on them. And by the way, I have already gone over this with the person I replied to at least three times now. I present him with facts, and he either doesn't respond or gives me shitty cop outs like this last one. We are women. We are women because of two things. Our gender and our sex. Our gender was set in our brains at gestation. Our …
/r/MensRights14/10/11 01:54 AM
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/r/MensRights13/10/11 10:32 PM
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Sure it is. I wasn't born with ovaries and a womb. If my genetics laid out my body to align with my female mind, I would be able to have children. By the way, keep this all in mind. Personally, I told my girlfriend I was trans before I even met her in person. I'm just a very trusting person and I trusted her from the start. But in the end, that was my choice. But it is always the choice I will recommend when dealing with a relationship.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 10:25 PM
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Why would it be deception. It's a genetic condition. It's no ones business but who she decides to tell. Just like with any private matter about a person's past that doesn't effect their present in any significant way. I'm not saying that it will make for a healthy relationship if she can't trust a potential partner enough to disclose this after a time. But it certainly doesn't have to be disclosed before the first sexual encounter. Especially if it's a one night stand, or just a purely physical …
/r/MensRights13/10/11 10:08 PM
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Yes, she should disclose her fertility status to potential partners, not to a purely sexual relationship. And I didn't say anything about a trans woman not disclosing her fertility status with a potential partner either. You don't have to discuss your full past medical status to say that your are not fertile. I was at the doctor when she was diagnosed. There is gender, which comprises gender identity and gender presentation. Part is a purely social construct and part is brain layout. Then there …
/r/MensRights13/10/11 09:51 PM
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Trans means to cross. We crossed from male, physically, to female, physically. Therefore, we are women. There is no distinction besides what happened in the past.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 09:44 PM
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You are joking right? Because all that matters to be a woman is being able to carry a child? That's a pretty bold statement and most menopausal women would probably disagree. So what are they now, more of a man? Some third, non-child bearing sex? She has a medial condition. Has nothing to do with arousal. But keep thinking that, if you really want to. The only troll here is you. Who believes that womanhood relies on such superficial characteristics. Conveniently, you are leaving out gender ident…
/r/MensRights13/10/11 09:07 PM
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My cousin was born unable to get pregnant. Is she any less a woman? My cis girlfriend needs lube every time we have sex, is always dry as a bone. Is she not a woman because of this? And the limit in orifice space is only limited by your penis size. And if it was too shallow, you can get grafts put in place to make it as deep as any cis vagina. Ok, then, I change my statement. A trans woman presenting as a sterile woman who needs lube for sex isn't lying. So, anything else?
/r/MensRights13/10/11 08:33 PM
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Yeah totally. If you haven't had SRS? Absolutely you should disclose that before sexy time.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 08:21 PM
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It's not an opinion. Phenotype IS superficial aspects of a person's physiology. And as such, it can be changed with the technology we have today. See, I doubt you would agree even if we got to the point where we could change it all from a genetic stand point. Chromosomes are a very small part of what sex is. And for all intents and purposes, it's pretty much irrelevant. Do you know your sex chromosome configuration? Do you demand a DNA test before you interact with everyone? Having males who are…
/r/MensRights13/10/11 06:35 PM
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Yup, that's a good argument.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 06:30 PM
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See, this is wrong. You can change most of the aspects of sex through surgery or hormones. Phenotype is just as important as genotype in determining sex. Sometimes phenotype and genotype are completely different. I was born XX, but developed completely male in my sex.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 05:06 PM
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Trans women are women. There is no deception involved when presenting as a woman. If you are so unattracted to trans women, then don't hit on them. After all, if you are so unattracted to them, you should have no reason to hit on them.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 04:45 PM
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How do you know this? Most people don't know their chromosomal makeup. Even if she did have a Y chromosome, genotype isn't the only determination of sex. Phenotype is also a valid characteristic in determining gender. I'm XX, but I developed as male in phenotype.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 04:39 PM
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That's because there is no lie in the first place. A trans girl presenting as a girl IS a girl in every way that matters.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 04:24 PM
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The only thing in sex you can't change is the sex chromosomes. And even that doesn't determine sex. Not like people wear their DNA on their sleeves. So yes, for all intents and purposes, trans women ARE women. In every single way that matters.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 04:22 PM
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Not to mention that the cognitive and judgment centers of the brain don't fully develop until around age 25. It's why teenagers make such poor judgments, on average. Even at age 18, the judgment centers of the brain are much more developed than a 15 year old's brain.
/r/MensRights04/10/11 12:23 AM
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That was just the first set of data. This is a compilation from different sources. And do you have anything with this sort of data that counters it with data of its own? So far, I've seen shady studies and anecdotal evidence.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 05:06 PM
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And yet, funny, not a single case of anaphylaxis or blood clots in anyone who has gotten a shot. Read the damned article that I posted. It shows that there is just as much fainting in the placebo. Funny enough, there hasn't been any real link with death. Nothing could be verified that any of those 30 some deaths were in any way related to the HPV vaccine. You could say, in the same way, that there were deaths related to the placebo as well.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 02:44 PM
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Oh man, just wow. It's been the opposite for me all my life. It wasn't the women who were degrading me and calling me all sorts of names like 'sissy' and things like that. It was predominantly men. We aren't talking about dating anyways. Just in interpersonal relationships and society in general. And in general, women were pretty excepting of me being a gender variant individual. Men, few and far between.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 12:50 AM
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It's normally the men who give gender-variance males the most flack in school, though. At least in my experience. The women were always more accepting. I was called a sissy or 'a woman' like it was an insult. This had nothing to do with the other women in class.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 12:44 AM
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The first study was in mice and it doesn't even disclose what the dosage was and it's equivalent in humans. If you were to review the link I posted earlier, it mentions how many cases of side effects there were in comparison with the placebo. And the second is what exactly? At best a list of possible side effects, at worst, anecdotal evidence? Hardly science. http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2011/is-the-hpv-vaccine-safe-v-2-0/ Just in case you are too lazy to look to earlier posts. Inform Y…
/r/MensRights29/09/11 12:36 AM
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The first study was in mice and it doesn't even disclose what the dosage was and it's equivalent in humans. If you were to review the link I posted earlier, it mentions how many cases of side effects there were in comparison with the placebo. And the second is what exactly? At best a list of possible side effects, at worst, anecdotal evidence? Hardly science.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 12:34 AM
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Out of curiosity, does anyone know if there was a drop in troop moral and all that when segregation in the military was removed? I'm sure it's just a temporary thing. And it's better than having soldiers' lives ruined because of who they sleep with, IMO.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 12:10 AM
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And how many has it triggered so far in the people who have had the vaccine? Being a person who has done all his research on the subject, you should be able to tell me.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 12:08 AM
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No, it's a strawman because I was referring to those websites you were wanting me to google. Then when I claimed they were conspiracy nuts because there is nothing but speculation, you claimed I was talking about people in men's rights. That is a pristine example of a strawman. I never claimed that the people who are in men's rights are conspiracy nuts. I did consider alternative views and none of those had any proof. I showed you this in my link, how there were no variation between the HPV vacc…
/r/MensRights29/09/11 12:06 AM
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And show me any study that shows any problem with HPV vaccine that didn't show up in the placebo. Any death. Any dangerous side effect at all. This is a huge claim and you need huge amounts of proof to back it up.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 12:01 AM
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Nice straw man. This has nothing to do with men's rights. This has to do with you spreading false information and just dismissing the information I posted.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 11:58 PM
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No, YOU are wrong. I posted the reason why. I doubt you even looked at it and instead spammed this crap again.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 11:51 PM
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And they would be conspiracy nuts. The HPV vaccine is very safe. http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2011/is-the-hpv-vaccine-safe-v-2-0/
/r/MensRights28/09/11 11:47 PM
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You are wrong. It's actually perfectly safe. http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2011/is-the-hpv-vaccine-safe-v-2-0/
/r/MensRights28/09/11 11:45 PM
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Read a bit about immunization. For one, there is a high chance that the immunity doesn't stick. Some immunizations have a 50% success rate. The benefit is in herd immunity. So it's not so good for the individual with the shot, but good for the individual because of the herd immunity.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 11:42 PM
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You made the assertion that there is some deception first. Provide the proof first. I provided my proof in the previous post, which you happened to ignore. And this isn't a simple matter of opinion. I have already pointed out how trans women are women. This is fact.
/r/MensRights14/09/11 02:58 PM
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waves Buh bye. One more thing, though, just a friendly reminder that we weren't talking about lying transsexuals. No one in these hypothetical situations were lying.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 09:11 PM
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Do they have the right to not sleep with whom they don't want? Sure. But it doesn't give you the right to know every past medical problem. You keep making this assertion, which you insist is a fact, but you don't back it up with anything but repeated assertion. And yet, you offer up no proof of your own as to how trans girls are deceiving. We can change anything that makes a man physically into a woman. Hormones can change body chemistry and secondary sexual characteristics. And surgery can chan…
/r/MensRights12/09/11 08:48 PM
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Your logic fails. If you simply dress up like him, your mind isn't him. And we don't simply dress the part, we change our bodies to match the mind. Making us mentally female and physically female.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 08:33 PM
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A cis woman's vagina would still be considered a wound by that logic. The only thing that keeps it from closing are the muscles that keep it slightly apart. But because it will close up isn't a good requirement for what is and what isn't a vagina.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 08:31 PM
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And why not? Where is your logic? I used to be fat, but because of this, even though I lost weight, I'm still fat?
/r/MensRights12/09/11 08:29 PM
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That's your sociopolitical opinion. Others have a different view. This isn't some poll. Majority doesn't get to dictate when something is fact or not. Who are you to tell other people how to define gender? It's up to the individual to dictate their own gender. It's for no one else. And besides, it's not an opinion. There are people out there who don't agree that a trans girl is a girl. And it's certainly their business to decide who they want to have sex with. They have every right to sleep with…
/r/MensRights12/09/11 08:14 PM
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How is it not real? It can be fucked and it still has just as much sensitivity as a cis vagina. Depending on the results, even doctors can't tell the difference. Our sex is just that, outward characteristics. Gender is in the mind. Next?
/r/MensRights12/09/11 08:04 PM
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And they use it over and over and over again. If not that then it's nothing but circular logic. Then they ask for proof, but no proof is good enough for them.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 07:38 PM
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No there isn't. In what way would she still be male? All the male characteristics are either gone or changed into female characteristics. So do, please, go on.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 06:45 PM
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These are not our opinions. This is backed up by the neurological, genetic, and psychological communities.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 05:54 PM
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God forbid a woman not staying with a man she isn't happy with. The nerve of her. No one should be forced into a relationship for any reason if either party isn't happy. Even if there are children involved.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 05:43 PM
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See, there is no deception when a trans girl presents as a girl. You have no right to know of any past medical procedure when it doesn't effect you in the here and now. It's like not wanting to date a girl who used to be fat, but is now skinny. It doesn't effect you or her in the here and now.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 05:40 PM
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See, that's the crux of the issue. There is no lie involved when a trans girl presents as a girl. No deception at all. Who are you to say that a trans girl's gender is invalid?
/r/MensRights12/09/11 05:39 PM
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Sorry, the fact that a woman births a child is unrelated to justifying why they should have all parental rights (we are not talking about reproductive rights). They don't have all parental rights. I never said they did. Just who ever has custody of the kid get's money from the one that doesn't. Ah, I see. Female entitlement :) This has nothing to do with the female getting the money from the man. It's about the child getting it. It's like you see it as a reward for the woman. It's about helping …
/r/MensRights15/08/11 09:18 PM
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Ok, you have two solutions. You can either force abortions onto women who are pregnant when the father doesn't want it. Or you can let the parent that doesn't want it off the hook for his responsibility to the child. Now, I'm not saying that having the child anyways without the consent of the father is the right thing to do. Not saying that at all. But it can't be enforced without taking away the rights of the mother to her body or the child to having the support of both the parents. You keep se…
/r/MensRights15/08/11 06:44 PM
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Yeah, both do. Women can be prone to subconscious misogynistic thoughts as men. Feminists will vouch that women play just as big a roll in the 'patriarchy' as men.
/r/MensRights15/08/11 06:38 PM
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It's a part of her body that the courts deem important enough to burden another man's life with 18 years at least of child support payments.. Yes, this choice to one's own body is the most important. More important than the lump of cells in her body. But you having to pay for 18 years is a side effect of her choice and the rights of the child after it's born. No, the financial repsonsibility shouldn't be based on some non-existent fairy tale. Women should make babies with men when they know the …
/r/MensRights15/08/11 06:24 PM
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How was there any scam? Any way you look at it, the woman's right to her body is top priority until it's born. Then, the top priority is to the child. Which means both DNA donors need to contribute financially, no matter who has custody. If he wants it or not is irrelevant. Both are the child's parents, both are financially responsible.
/r/MensRights15/08/11 06:21 PM
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I totally agree. I just don't have much to add, simply because I don't have strong enough opinions on this issue, as I haven't really thought about it before. But this whole thing has really started me thinking, so it's a start.
/r/MensRights15/08/11 05:09 PM
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You have to admit that society as a whole does look down on women, even if it is subconsciously. Stay with me for a moment. Why do you think other men, and women, tend to look down on men for doing anything girly? Like wearing a dress, or makeup, or being weak. Why does pussy get thrown around a lot or getting called a girl is such an insult? Now, if a woman dresses as a man, she might get looks, but not nearly as bad as men. My guess is that it's because women are still, subconsciously, thought…
/r/MensRights15/08/11 04:47 PM
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If it was proven, yeah, you should totally get full custody of the child. That long a time frame should warrant certain rights that are reserved for biological parents. I wonder how that would work if BOTH parents weren't taking care of the child. Maybe get two child support checks a month. lol My opinion is that if the biological father is tracked down, a paternity test should be forced. But I'm not sure on this stance. Never thought about it much. And as far as still being responsible if the b…
/r/MensRights15/08/11 04:41 PM
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Actually that is false, women are allowed to kill their kids and are punished much less harshly than men. Then THAT is a flaw in the legal system. Further, women have the ability to choose to kill the fetus, to birth it into a child and adopt it out (or abandon it), or to birth it into a child and force a man (not necessarily the actual biological father) to pay for her choice. The choice to abandon or give it for adoption should always rest in the hands of both parents. If one doesn't consent, …
/r/MensRights15/08/11 04:34 PM
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The women have the ability to chose whether the kid lives or dies because at the point of choice, it isn't a person yet. It's a part of her body. And the financial responsibility should be based on how much financial responsibility would have been provided if the couple were together and raising the child together.
/r/MensRights15/08/11 04:28 PM
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Further, women have near 100% of parental rights This is a side effect of it being her body before birth. And a side effect of the fact that, after birth, the child's right to financial responsibility from both parents are more important than either parent's right to all of their money.
/r/MensRights15/08/11 04:26 PM
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This I will agree on. Paternity tests should be given, free of charge, when there is any question of doubt as to who the father is. If the child isn't the fathers, he shouldn't have to give child support. My only question is, what if it's been 10 or so years? What if you were there for it for all that time and it knows you as the father and you treated it that entire time as your son or daughter?
/r/MensRights15/08/11 04:13 PM
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No, it's not. It is the same as telling a woman she shouldn't have sex unless she is prepared to take responsibility for the child. Her choice of abortion or not doesn't factor into the first part at all. It's a different set of choices. Once the choice is made, then you go on and say that both parents are then responsible because they shared in creating it.
/r/MensRights15/08/11 03:59 PM
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Same. Must be a cultural thing. I see it mostly used by women and men when referring to women. But I rarely hear men being the focus of it.
/r/MensRights13/08/11 04:49 PM
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Cunt, dickhead, I use both with equal fervor. lol
/r/MensRights13/08/11 04:47 PM
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But they have to have a cause in the first place. What causes the large number of occurring values? There is always a reason behind every statistic.
/r/MensRights29/07/11 04:58 PM
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Thank you so much. It was a wonderful discussion. I wish everyone was as open to this sort of thing. And about the surgery. See, for me, I don't ever plan on getting it done. It's like 20k and the amount of pain and recovery time just doesn't seem worth it. The benefits, for me, don't outweigh the negatives. My gender dysphoria never centered around that area of my body, it was the rest of my body that bothered me. And what would be the point of getting it done if I'm into women. I would just ha…
/r/MensRights29/07/11 04:37 AM
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As for your friend, the thing is, she isn't satisfied now. So no matter what she does to her body, she will probably be more satisfied than she is now. And also, not everyone who thinks they are trans really is. It's why there are safe guards in place such as therapy and standards of care. To make sure that what she/he is doing is the right thing for her/him. What I have noticed, A LOT, is that quite a few trans men, and women, try to personify masculinity or femininity. Quite a few trans men I …
/r/MensRights28/07/11 05:13 PM
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Norms can still be based on bigotry and mental hangups. It has nothing to do with being BASED on statistics. They are made norms because of society and because of the majority's opinions. The reason why they are statistics in the first place is what I was arguing about.
/r/MensRights28/07/11 12:57 AM
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Then my points all still stand. You either agree or disagree and refute them. I would love to know how it's impossible to refute. People debate opinions all the time. You stated your opinion on the matter and I expressed how your opinion is wrong. It's called backing up your opinions. Then you quit and turned the conversation in another direction without even touching what I said.
/r/MensRights27/07/11 11:15 PM
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You haven't refuted anything I've said. You deflected and ignored any point I made. Take this: "It's not about challenging societies norms. It's about keeping our personal privacy to ourselves. No one deserves to know anything about your past if it doesn't effect the person." How have you refuted this? It still stands, it's our bodies, no one has a right to know anything about our past. There is no deceit. We are women presenting as women. And yes, you better review exactly what a ad hominem is.…
/r/MensRights27/07/11 10:42 PM
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If you use an insult to point the argument towards myself instead of what I'm arguing, yes, it's an ad hominem. Learn what an ad hominem is. It is an attempt to link the truth of a claim to a negative characteristic or belief of the person advocating it. That's pretty much what you are saying by insulting me and not refuting any of my points. My points still stand.
/r/MensRights27/07/11 08:40 PM
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Your ad hominems are doing wonders for your argument. This has nothing to do with statistics. Nothing at all. I don't care about how many people feel like they deserve to know, even if it's every person on this planet. It's not about challenging societies norms. It's about keeping our personal privacy to ourselves. No one deserves to know anything about your past if it doesn't effect the person. You act like they are the victim. lol That's rich. Of what, catching teh gay, or worse, cooties?
/r/MensRights27/07/11 07:18 PM
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If I chose to, I have banked my sperm. When I'm ready, my girlfriend can still have my child. Then there is adoption. Quite a few of us feel like if we can't carry the child ourselves, it would be too hard to have biological children. I don't feel that way, but lots do. Also, sometimes a trans person is so uncomfortable in their body, that it's worth it to sacrifice having children for the sake of that. It's why around 40% of trans people have attempted suicide. As for that person in the video, …
/r/MensRights27/07/11 07:10 PM
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So anecdotal evidence is valid now? Most of the ones that pass perfectly, you never knew they were trans. What you said is really unverifiable for you. And think about it, transformation videos on youtube. If you pass and look good, you tend to not need outside validation on the internet. It's why most who get that far disappear from the web. No one at work knows I was born physically male. Just the plant manager and my team leader. Both were shocked as hell. Do you really want a detailed explan…
/r/MensRights27/07/11 04:34 AM
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I agree. There are a few things that we disagree about as far as the connection of rights and responsibility. And I respect your opinion on the matter because I agree that it's unfair for the non carrier. I just wish there was a solution that wouldn't take away the carrier's rights and those of the child, while at the same time would make it completely fair for the other party involved. Maybe in the future when technology advances far enough, there might be some evening out as to who the carrier…
/r/MensRights23/07/11 02:35 AM
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I also would support child support payments being stopped if she marries someone else who is financially stable enough to help support their family. For the man it's better, but not for the child and the mother. It's worse to force an abortion or to not provide for the child. Both should provide equally because they have an equal amount of the father and mother in the child. That's what it all comes down to. Sure, some kids don't get enough with both parents, but that's also a shame and it shoul…
/r/MensRights22/07/11 10:07 PM
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They just get to decide to have the baby or not. If it's born, they have just as much responsibility towards it's well being as the man. I never said it was fair. But it's a product of it being the choice to give birth to the carrier. I agree. The personhood debate wasn't started by me and I mentioned that it was neither here nor there is a previous post. I would argue that sex doesn't give any consent to carry the child to term. It gives consent, if it's decided that it is going to be born, for…
/r/MensRights22/07/11 10:00 PM
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That's actually a good idea that I can agree with. And honestly, I never really thought about it before. There is welfare, but I don't think it goes far enough for some people. All that you listed should be at the top of the list for the state to provide. At the very least, the basics. Even if there are two people paying into the child, the state should still make sure to step in when even that isn't enough.
/r/MensRights22/07/11 03:56 PM
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No, her choice doesn't have anything to do with who's responsibility. That is separate. It's who's DNA, who had sex, that's who's responsibility. You can't just pressure someone to have an abortion over money. It's just wrong. It's their decision and their decision alone and to put financial pressure on them shouldn't, and isn't, an option. Men, as well as women need to take responsibility. They are both financially responsible. Not just the man. A man can certainly get custody, and should half …
/r/MensRights22/07/11 01:36 PM
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Interesting. I think I had two female teachers in 9-12. Before that, they were all female.
/r/MensRights22/07/11 03:30 AM
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No, she isn't. But it's her choice and no one else, simply because she is set up to be the carrier, it's her body. If one day science gets to the point where men can be carriers too, I will support the man's decision to abort or keep. And when it's in the world, it's both parents responsibility no matter who's choice it was to carry it to term. As for your second part, yes, I agree. How would that be accomplished? I would like to hear how you would fix it. What do you think are the child's needs…
/r/MensRights22/07/11 03:15 AM
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No, but it sure brings in more money to save for other things the child needs. You think the mother should be the only one providing food and shelter for the child? The other parent needs to help pay for all that. Any parent who doesn't help contribute to their child's well being is a dead beat, plain and simple.
/r/MensRights22/07/11 03:09 AM
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Not 'yours', but partly your responsibility. You had a hand in bringing it into the world. So that means you have responsibility towards that life. To say otherwise is just selfish.
/r/MensRights22/07/11 03:07 AM
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Not the max, but the more your parents have collectively, the more you can put away for your child. Two parents contributing can certainly afford more luxury than one. I never said anything about max luxury. But it's always good to give more than the basics, more than the average single mother can give. Especially when it comes to saving for college, and things of that nature.
/r/MensRights22/07/11 03:06 AM
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Two separate things. Abortion isn't death. It's removing a lump of tissue. BOTH the mother and the father are bound by law if the carrier of the child decided not to abort. If the father was the one to give birth, it would be up to him. And if the father gets custody, the mother should also have to pay child support. Responsibility for taking care of the child financially is on both people involved. The decision to abort is up to the carrier, no matter who that is, because it is still their body…
/r/MensRights22/07/11 12:25 AM
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It was knowingly. You had sex, you donated your DNA. As did she. But it's her body, so none of that matters as to the abortion. That's for the carrier to decide on. And abortions should be legal because it's not a life. And couldn't possibly be considered one until it has a reasonably developed brain. But this is neither here nor there. I'll never say it's a punishment, because of my above statement. Did you know that the majority of abortions are carried out by women who have already had a chil…
/r/MensRights21/07/11 11:26 PM
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well, I know there was an over abundance of women from elementary to middle school. But as soon as grade 9 hit, majority were men. I wish I could see the stats for everything but K-8. Ah well. Thanks for the link.
/r/MensRights21/07/11 10:49 PM
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And you think kids "need" everything you can possibly afford to give them? Not that they need it, but they need you to provide for them. The guy needs to step up and take responsibility. You act like fatherly rights and fatherly responsibilities are two entirely separate things. They're not, as I said, they should go together. If you want the rights, you have to step up to the responsibilities-- likewise, if you abrogate your responsibilities, you should lose your rights. Oh, they are separate t…
/r/MensRights21/07/11 10:47 PM
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And you don't think your child needs as much luxury as you can provide? This explains a lot. Why not? You helped make it, it's your DNA as well. You have a certain innate responsibility to give your child the best you can. Even if you chose to cut it out of your life, it's still your responsibility because you helped create it. Nothing here says anything about forcing fatherhood. Just forcing you to take responsibility for the sake of the child. It's her choice to have it because it's her body, …
/r/MensRights21/07/11 10:01 PM
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And it's always harder without the extra income, especially because she has to be able afford a day care or just not work. The child definitely benefits from added income in the house. I don't know how you can argue with that. You don't have to be a father, but you need to financially take responsibility for your child. To deny child support is to take money away from your child.
/r/MensRights21/07/11 08:39 PM
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My only problem with that is that the child support is for the child. You are only hurting the child when you stop child support payments.
/r/MensRights21/07/11 07:14 PM
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Lack of male teachers, really? When I was in highschool, most of my teachers were male. Same as in college, 80% were men. Is there actually a huge statistical bias towards women as teachers, at highschool or above?
/r/MensRights21/07/11 07:10 PM
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Brain waves have nothing to do with it. It's how it's set up structurally. I have no idea where you came up with brain waves. lol Then dispute it. How are our bodies no different than a cis female's? XX is not the end all be all of being a woman.
/r/MensRights21/07/11 06:27 AM
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Which one? Neurologically we are female. Proved with brain scans. Physically we are female in every way as well, because of hormones and surgery. I don't see your point.
/r/MensRights21/07/11 05:47 AM
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I know it doesn't. But having the body of a woman and the brain of a woman does.
/r/MensRights20/07/11 01:58 PM
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http://www.eje-online.org/content/155/suppl_1/S107.full http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19341803 http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/2005to2009/2009-clinical-implications-hormones.html I have dozens more from all over the world.
/r/MensRights20/07/11 01:58 PM
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When have you ever asked for citations? lol Citations for which?
/r/MensRights20/07/11 01:56 PM
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As far as you know......and logically, what could that mechanism be? Seriously, don't start with that metaphysical bullshit about magnetic fields and buffer overwrite speed crap. Back your claims up with science or drop it. Even something that points towards it. Some small chuck of evidence that might lead to a conjecture. Anything.....
/r/MensRights20/07/11 03:44 AM
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I would say the same thing to you. You can believe we are men all you want, doesn't mean it's true. In every way that matters, we are women. Our minds were always female. Our bodies have been changed to female with surgery and hormones. In every way shape and form that actually matters, we are women. To believe otherwise is a mental hangup.
/r/MensRights20/07/11 03:28 AM
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Science isn't a religion. Science is about finding truth. If there wasn't evidence for us being women, I wouldn't push this argument. I wouldn't really believe we were women in men's bodies. I would still fight for my right to be who I want to be, just like I would fight for you. And no, the suicide rates are no where close to the same. It's impossible for a furry to have the same sort of disconnect with ones brain and body. It's not a disconnect, it's simply a desire.
/r/MensRights20/07/11 03:24 AM
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If I do, so what? You feel I should be denied the right to feel like that? No, you can feel any way you want. But it doesn't mean it's justified or that I have to cater to it. You keep running in circle, repeating your circular statements without argumenting at all. So let me do it too: Just because you think you deserve to force your reality on someone, doesn't mean you really do. For someone who whines how they deserve to be treated the way they want all the time, you sure like to push 'Call u…
/r/MensRights20/07/11 03:21 AM
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Some people just like to make a spectacle of themselves. Others are simply deluded, delusions can be rather powerful. What is the suicide rates among the furry community? Maybe I was a tiger in a past life and my electromagnetic field's buffer wasn't cleared before attaching to the new body? Oh please. Get out of here with that reincarnation bullshit. I deal in science. You do not have a buffer and you do not have a soul.
/r/MensRights19/07/11 02:45 PM
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It's just rather insulting to compare a want or desire to something as powerful as GID. Serious enough to cause a very large disconnect from ones body. Something that is so strong that people kill themselves left and right. If there was evidence for having a tiger brain, we would have found SOMETHING that hinted at it. We would know of a mechanism. I'll support anything you choose to do to your body. I won't believe it's a medical condition or that you are actually a tiger.
/r/MensRights19/07/11 02:31 PM
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Doesn't matter at all, unless that woman is actively hiding it. And why is that? You really need to know if a woman has a hormone imbalance or you'll feel betrayed. As I said, just because you think you deserve to know, doesn't mean you really do. Call unfair all you want, such is life. And again, that is no issue and I've had a few women like that. The issue would be if she would try to hide it from me. Who said anything about hiding it? I would come out and say it right away. Doesn't mean I'm …
/r/MensRights19/07/11 01:26 PM
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That means nothing, what's your point? Give me the mechanism that de-evolves certain strands of dna. There is no genetic manipulation. See, being trans gender is possible. There is proof and it doesn't go against common scientific sense. Being trans species is not. There is not a shred of evidence and does go against common scientific sense. I wouldn't necessarily have a uterus. Lots of women are born without a uterus. Does that mean they are not 'normal' women? No, so what's your point? There a…
/r/MensRights19/07/11 01:16 PM
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I agree, but I would say that gender presentation is socially constructed. I know personally, I didn't even transition for the social aspects. I just wanted to change my body for my own comfort. I never thought I would pass and didn't care. Luckily I do. Even if society was different and had no genders, I would still transition simply because of the disconnect between my brain and body. Unless you believe that all the biological differences between the sexes are social constructs as well. Wantin…
/r/MensRights18/07/11 11:53 PM
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I disagree with gender being purely socially constructed. There are definitely some biological components to it. Gender identity is biological, and gender presentation is social. Both sides to the same gender coin.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 11:03 PM
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I know what you mean. It took me awhile to reach this position myself. Myself, I would never go into a relationship and not tell the person before sex. But this is just a personal preference. And I have to defend the right for those who don't feel that they can.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 10:58 PM
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No, because it's all different species. There is not a shred of scientific evidence. Not even a possibility. At least with sex, we were all the same sex during development, and it was only hormone levels that direct one to be male. And we also know that there is a different mechanism for the brain and one for the body. Last time I checked, there wasn't even a mechanism for that. And as I said, you wouldn't be able to form a coherent sentence if you were a tiger or monkey.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 10:52 PM
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Why should I tip toe around norms and sentiments when they are based on bigotry and mental hang ups? I will do no such thing, no matter who's feelings I hurt. Especially if it interferes with my personal privacy.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 10:49 PM
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Lots of women have to be on hormones for the rest of their lives, does that make them any different? I don't see how that can matter in a sexual relationship, or any relationship at all. There are lots of women that have to use lube when they have sex. That is a problem easily worked around. And yes, some procedures can be just as lubricated. You don't need to manual dilate it if you have sex. And then it's around once a month. Once again, how does this effect anyone? Lots of women don't have pe…
/r/MensRights18/07/11 10:48 PM
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Some beliefs are worth ignoring. Especially if it infringes on my privacy. I not going to tip toe around something that is in their head and obviously a hang up.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 10:38 PM
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Just because society assumes you are entitled to know, doesn't mean that it's a moral imparitive to know. Morality isn't justified simply by the majority rule. But it's your job to ask, not ours to assume. Society sucks, but it doesn't give people the right to know.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 06:21 PM
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No one knows for sure. Science doesn't deal in absolutes. But things certainly point that way. Are you actually suggesting that the mind isn't a products of it's parts? How the brain doesn't influence the mind? It's why transsexuals have female brains. There are tons of studies that show this. Show me any that shows that you could possibly have a tiger brain. We aren't even close ancestors on the evolutionary tree. Silly analogy is silly.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 06:14 PM
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One and the same. Our minds are dictated by our brains. You can't have a female mind without a female type brain.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 05:55 PM
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In what way is that a big difference? We changed our bodies to be identical to a cis woman's. How does that actually effect a person if it isn't just based on hangups and personal prejudices? It has no effect on there here and now. Has no effect on how the body is and the mind is. What else is there?
/r/MensRights18/07/11 05:53 PM
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It is not current medical history. That is what "history" means. The betrayal is in your head and a hangup. You see it as manipulation, but there wasn't anything misleading in our gender presentation. What you call betrayal is something you constructed in your own mind. Just because you think you deserve to know this information doesn't mean you actually do. Want and deserve are two different things. And in what ways that are tangible are we different? Our minds and bodies can be female in every…
/r/MensRights18/07/11 05:47 PM
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In what ways are we different? Because of our past? How is that tangible in the here and now? Maybe if you tried to counter my argument instead of just blowing it off with a ROFL....
/r/MensRights18/07/11 05:40 PM
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Obviously you are suffering under delusions if you really believe you have a tiger brain. How can you form a coherent sentence? See how bad this analogy is? If you really had a tiger brain, a brain scan would show that easily enough. There is plenty of evidence that a male bodied individual can have a female type brain.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 05:32 PM
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If there is new break through studies that come out that confirm you are what you say you are, then fine. I will support you. But the analogy is poor at best. Is fursexuality an actual sexuality?
/r/MensRights18/07/11 05:17 PM
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You seem to think every trans girl doesn't pass. There are a huge number of trans girls that you wouldn't even know are trans. How else could you get into the sack and not know until after the act? Apparently they passed enough to 'fool' the person they were sleeping with.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 05:07 PM
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It's not being born in the wrong body. It's that our mental gender doesn't match our sex at some point. There is a mechanism for that in our bodies, studies back that up. There is not, however, any mechanism for changing one's species. False analogy abound. I love how we get compared to furries, like there are any real parallels backed in science.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 04:58 PM
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Just because you think it does, doesn't mean it's true. We are no different than any other woman. Edit: How many times are you going to make false arguments with me and plug your ears and close your eyes to any meaningful argument I make? Then proceed to just stop communicating because you realize you are looking like a tool?
/r/MensRights18/07/11 04:54 PM
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No one is hiding anything but past medical history that hurts no one. If you see us as different from cis women, then you are a bigot. Simple as that.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 04:46 PM
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Trans people have a right to live their lives without a label and assimilate into society. Trans women especially do not need to inflict the damage of being known as trans upon themselves if they can avoid it. Damned straight. Our gender presentation is no less justified than any other girl.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 04:44 PM
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Want and deserve are two different words and you can't equate the two.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 04:41 PM
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Just because people want to know, or feel that they need to know, doesn't mean that they have the right to know. Our being trans is no different than any other corrective surgery. It's no one's business but our own. If I am married, and I know you would not want to have sex with me if you knew I was married, so I hide that fact from you. Another straw man. Us being married effects you in many ways. Us being trans does not. It's no different than someone who used to have a cleft lip and got it fi…
/r/MensRights18/07/11 04:40 PM
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Smoking and eating meat effects you. Our medical past does not. This is the key difference. It wouldn't be a lie. We present as female and really ARE female. Just because it might be icky for you to sleep with someone who used to have a penis, doesn't mean it's our fault. This is your hangup, not ours. It all boils down to the fact that you see trans girls as something different to cis girls. We are not. For every reason that matters. Our medical past doesn't effect you. Society's bigotry might,…
/r/MensRights18/07/11 04:36 PM
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Because not disclosing really fucks people over.... Maybe society would if they found out, because of the irrational fear of finding out they slept with someone who used to have a male sex. But that isn't our burden. It's society's hangup, not ours to have to tip toe around. Misandry? In what way? This applies to female partners as much as to male. If they have a problem with it, it's their problem. We don't lie when we say we are women. And our past is our business. Just because you WANT to kno…
/r/MensRights18/07/11 04:32 PM
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And how the fsck am I harming anyone? Don't you know, we have cooties and they could catch teh gay.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 04:16 PM
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You are right. It's why we have a treatment for it. Hormones and surgery. It's only dangerous if GID goes untreated. After that, we are no different than the average woman.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 04:14 PM
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