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Context seems to have been lost along the way somewhere. The post was a refutation of the concept that "men feel entitled to sex/relationships" with the implication that this entitlement is socially enforced somehow, thus contributing to "patriarchy" or "rape-culture". "At the very least" seems to be in place to indicate that reactions to such ideas in society are at least rejected, if not outright attacked. Maybe I'm misreading the whole thing, but I'm not seeing any support of entitlement ther…
/r/MensRights26/05/14 03:42 PM
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why be married? Good question.
/r/MensRights20/02/14 03:49 AM
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I love the part about all the "sexualization" of women's diseases, particularly breast cancer. "Save the boobies". Okay, how about "save the ballsack"? Maybe "save the assholes" for male-only cancer? Oh wait, that probably wouldn't work. I guess "save the cute butts" works, since I've heard that from plenty of women who thought they were being discreet. 5 feet away from me, gawking over some musclebound guy with a chiseled jaw. "Save the package", perhaps, and put on some guys with impossibly-la…
/r/MensRights15/02/14 07:41 PM
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I'd just like to point out that it's not just MRAs who are outspoken in their criticism of wacky feminist theories and actions. There are plenty of other people, especially the aforementioned skeptics, who question these things. People don't have to be on board with the MRM to find issue with feminist ideology. The best example I can bring up is the Amazing Atheist. As much I can't really stand most of his videos, even the feminism videos, he is still questioning and outright refuting the same i…
/r/MensRights07/08/13 08:55 AM
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Thank you. I felt something was a bit off.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 09:03 PM
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Being truly progressive means changing with the times, not sticking to outdated, proven-useless ideas. Neither party is progressive anymore. Progressive ideas are beyond anything that typical party politics can imagine.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 11:36 AM
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Stop being so meta, dammit!
/r/MensRights30/07/13 06:36 AM
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To be fair, I've not yet heard of any feminist authors talking about the reverse either. Perhaps this could be a gender-neutral fight that the MRM could take up? It's certainly an issue for both men and women that Feminism doesn't seem to be fighting.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 06:18 AM
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Not only that, but he's the fifth bad person! This is just getting to be too much for me!
/r/MensRights30/07/13 06:16 AM
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Freddie wasn't bitchy! He was magnificent.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 06:02 AM
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Except only the second part of that is true.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 06:01 AM
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Yet another sign of a cult. Cults tend to think of anyone who they should typically identify as fellows but doesn't fit with their world-view as being brainwashed slaves. More to the point, it's very conspiracy-theorist. On a website that I am pretty sure (though can't be absolutely certain) is a very convincing parody of conspiracy theorists, The Flat Earth Society, the members consider everyone who isn't part of their group to either be uninformed, working for the conspiracy, or brainwashed. T…
/r/MensRights30/07/13 05:54 AM
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A very progressive way of doing things. I applaud NC for this, at least. I'd like to see all states adopt this method. Brings the "work" side of "equal pay for equal work".
/r/MensRights30/07/13 05:23 AM
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By "slicing the genitals" I meant the vas, not the scrotum. It's certainly no less invasive, but it's far less destructive and it's reversible, which is the main point to me. Don't get me wrong, it'd be nice to have a very highly-effective "male pill", but this outpatient surgery seems like a much better option to me.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 06:44 PM
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This is exactly right. Attempting to talk the man down from his suicide attempt could have simply made things worse. Untrained people playing negotiator are rarely a positive addition to a bad situation.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 09:58 AM
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I've never felt comfortable at World Market. I always feel like people are staring at me.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 09:53 AM
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2015 can't come soon enough for me. Finally we'll have some freedom without having to slice our genitals in a process that only gets less likely to be reversible as time goes on. I'm really looking forward to getting this, though I'm sure it'll turn out to be a $500+ surgery, not covered by insurance, with no government subsidies or places to get it for cheap/free. Still, even a grand is worth the price of not having unwanted children.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 09:50 AM
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And such businesses simply don't exist. If all the employees are working part-time, the owner is likely working 14 hours straight every day and paying himself out for maybe 6 hours of work, if that. This is the restaurant industry in a nutshell, actually, especially smaller, newer restaurants owned and operated by a chef. These people do a shitload of work and hire for as few hours as possible at first to keep from going straight under.
/r/MensRights08/06/13 08:07 PM
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Gordon Ramsay, Simon Cowell, Donald Trump, all extremely critical, all very successful. In fact, those three are also quite capable of taking credit for their victories (and why shouldn't they?), Gordon "creates from a transactional perspective" (watch Kitchen Nightmares, nearly every change he makes to restaurants, including the menus, is done to improve customer turnout, not make something artsy), they all talk about people, both privately and to those people's faces, exude anger when appropri…
/r/MensRights08/06/13 07:09 PM
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Yeah, when you make up a tiny minority of a customer base, it makes it difficult to justify shifting design from your majority base to cater to the minority.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 10:18 AM
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I think, in a way, this is where the idea of "patriarchy" stems from. It's really the only way to reconcile the idea of equality with the fact that so few women actually bother working toward building games with strong female leads. If you believe that just as many women want to be game devs, writers, project managers, and presidents of game companies, you would need to accept that there's some alternative reason that they're not. Obviously, if we take the false premise that this isn't due to pr…
/r/MensRights28/05/13 09:16 PM
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True, though that's far less common than a judge vetoing a sentence.
/r/MensRights09/05/13 02:38 AM
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I think the "somehow" is a good indicator there.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 09:53 PM
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Well, again, they were saying this before the verdict was delivered. It was a prediction, and a correct one. Maybe it's fallacious, but these are both fairly experienced people, one of whom was a prosecutor. I know that in the past, I've seen TV trials, as well as others, that were deliberated in similar amounts of time come up with a guilty verdict. Of course, you're absolutely right. You never know how a verdict is going to be made until it's made, and predicting it is little more than educate…
/r/MensRights08/05/13 09:48 PM
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In these kinds of discussions, you have to start small and lead the other side to coming to the same conclusions you have with the same facts you saw leading you to them. This is a problem with holding any non-mainstream point of view. We've taken the time and found ourselves open to these ideas. We saw little hints and clues early on that led us to explore further. We challenged our own beliefs due to these smaller revelations and began to question the nature of our situation more deeply with e…
/r/MensRights08/05/13 09:44 PM
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It's my understanding that death would be up to a jury to decide on. Of course, the judge can veto a death penalty decision, I believe.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 09:28 PM
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I agree with you. I disagree with the death penalty in our current justice system, but she deserves the harshest punishment available.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 09:21 PM
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The talking heads on Fox News (A former judge and a former lawyer) were both agreeing that the deliberation was actually pretty short, and a good sign of conviction before it was actually revealed.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 09:19 PM
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This is one of those difficult situations for me when I compare my Libertarian stances with my Men's Rights stances. In this situation, we're talking about government intervention of a private company, dictating its policy and pricing decisions. I'm an American, so, while this won't directly affect me, it does set off some warnings in my head, and causes a conflict. It makes me ask why I should even be in favor of this when I believe that government intervention of private companies should almos…
/r/MensRights08/05/13 08:06 PM
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Actually, the first chant is kinda hard to understand but the second one has better cadence. "MRAs, spreading lies, we can see through your disguise" As laughably idiotic as the content is, the cadence is pretty good!
/r/MensRights05/04/13 07:19 PM
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I gotta admit, they have a catchy, though baseless and idiot, chant at the beginning there. Other than that, just annoying noise trying to drown out free speech.
/r/MensRights05/04/13 05:41 AM
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Worse: She physically beats you and then claims that you raped her.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 08:15 PM
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Honestly, I think the involvement of any government when it comes to romantic relationships is a problem. I know it's a very radical notion, but I honestly believe that marriage should be something for churches, synagogues, temples, or even individual religious leaders to handle, while the idea we currently call "marriage" should be handled by the state, if at all. We talk about fairness when it comes to marriage, but it neglects the fairness of asexuals and people simply fed-up with the idea of…
/r/MensRights29/03/13 06:11 AM
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It was suggested that a new sub be created and promoted to provide an alternative to /r/mensrants with a less problematic title and as a drop-box for content that is in-line with /r/MensRights but isn't exactly right for the sub. It's a place to post your Facebook, Tumblr, SRS, and other screenshots. As with /r/MensRights, I would request that there be no direct links to these sites/subs, no calls for downvotes, and no illegal/violent activity done or suggested. Memes/Rage Comics will be allowed…
/r/MensRights29/03/13 05:24 AM
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Oh, I agree. While the law would consider it rape if it happened to a woman, I sincerely disagree with that definition. I wasn't raped (in that case), it's just extremely annoying. If someone doesn't want sex and it's pretty clear, it should end.
/r/MensRights29/03/13 05:11 AM
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Maybe I just have my blinders on, which is entirely possible, but I've found that /r/mensrights is almost entirely comprised of the moderate, logical people, with the fringe typically dismissed and brought down. I know I've seen some downright offensive, misogynistic stuff posted in the comments section, and even upvoted, but I just don't think that they're more than outliers. The mainstream voice of the Men's Rights Movement is equality from the point of view of restoring and gaining equality f…
/r/MensRights29/03/13 05:11 AM
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First thing that struck me was that she prefers Manischewitz wine... just.. ew.
/r/MensRights29/03/13 04:44 AM
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I'll concede that it's a useful term, at least in the case of brevity. I don't think it's as necessary of a term though, as you could just as easily use "biological" or "bio" to signify the same thing. Bio-male works pretty well. In any case, you get my upvote for throwing some good reasoning behind it, and I do agree that at the least, it's a useful term.
/r/MensRights29/03/13 04:34 AM
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While I don't quite get the reason for it being offensive, I try to avoid using the term unless I'm searching for porn. And porn is where things get... difficult. The myriad terms there is far greater than actual descriptions. On the other hand, I don't understand a LOT of PC terms either. African-American doesn't mean someone who comes from Africa, it means someone who has brown skin and doesn't originate from the Americas. Basically, you can't be Afrcan-American if you're not black, so while t…
/r/MensRights29/03/13 04:29 AM
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He never mentioned that he found her attractive in any way. She could be a horrifying hambeast with more metal in her face than Pinhead. The fact that he felt uncomfortable about it and told her directly to stop, to me, means that he doesn't find her attractive. Even worse on the double-standard scale is the question of "what if he was gay?" Think about that. This kind of behavior is socially-accepted, even if the man being harassed is not attracted even to her gender.
/r/MensRights29/03/13 04:15 AM
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U.S. too, in most states. Spitting on someone can be assault in the U.S.
/r/MensRights29/03/13 04:09 AM
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And what about her laying her hands on him, physically striking him? Is that not aggravated assault?
/r/MensRights29/03/13 04:07 AM
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You have a point, but part of the contention with these unattainable ideals includes photoshoppery. Yeah, drawn men and women have physical ideals that are simply physically impossible, while most photographs are just statistically impossible.
/r/MensRights29/03/13 03:47 AM
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Looks pretty Photoshopped to me.
/r/MensRights29/03/13 03:30 AM
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Not to mention, there are places for activism on our topics here. AVFM and Community of the Wrongly Accused are both activist sites. I'd say that part of the difference between this sub and, say, SRS and Tumblr is that we don't necessarily have to be organizing activism here. Keeping that separate from discussion and news is a somewhat important thing to have, I think. That doesn't mean it has to be that way, of course, but I like having a place where logic and proper discussion can happen on a …
/r/MensRights29/03/13 03:14 AM
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I only wish that those kinds of feminists were relegated to the fringes like the WBC, with all the other well-known ones calling them the bigoted idiots they are.
/r/MensRights29/03/13 02:44 AM
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Hence the Australians having an upper-hand here. Though, I have always called large shrimp "prawns".
/r/MensRights29/03/13 02:35 AM
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But as a college aged woman, I've veryyyy often been dating a guy (always nice guys)... end up alone and making out... I'm not ready to have sex with him, I say so, he keeps going. Not raping or trying to rape me... just keeps kissing, touching, not letting me diffuse the situation. Not a great thing to do, that's for damn sure. I've actually had something similar happen. A woman says "I don't feel like it tonight" then goes back to making out and fondling me, though I've also had the exactly sa…
/r/MensRights29/03/13 02:33 AM
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What's funny to me is that a good chunk of males on Reddit probably are heteroflexible at best, and certainly not gender-normative. Of course, if they're not, they're automatically neckbeard shitlords that live in their mom's basement. Never dad's basement of course.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 08:18 PM
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Plus he looks like Jonothan Frakes. Make it so.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 05:19 PM
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I agree. I just thought there was an equivalence being made.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 04:47 AM
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I think it would be more appropriate to say that being anti-black panther party should not be illegal either. Feminism isn't the voice of women, it's the voice of feminists. Being against feminism doesn't mean you're against women or even the feminine.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 03:02 AM
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On the titleix.info page, under the athletics header, there's a pretty humorous little editorial error: Before Title IX Things were different. The primary physical activities for girls were cheerleading and square-dancing. Only 1 in 27 girls played high school sports. There were virtually no college scholarships for female athletes. And female college athletes received only two percent of overall athletic budgets. Since Title IX Things were different. The primary physical activities for girls we…
/r/MensRights20/03/13 11:16 PM
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Okay, I really don't see the men's rights issue here. People have the freedom to work or not work. If she feels that it's her job to be a stay-at-home mom and he agrees, what's the issue here? It's a good thing to have a parent at home. If, maybe, we had some contrast with her complaining about how evil men are or just proclaiming some feminist ideals, then I could see it at least being fodder for men's rants, but this just doesn't really concern us, especially not without any kind of context.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 10:37 PM
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Not everyone is going to be this way, of course and The problem is, not everyone likes it, especially not all the time, and even more so when the relationship is past that phase. People are different. You don't like it. I don't always like it, and at this point in my life, I pretty much never want to deal with it anymore, but for many people, it is a very good thing.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 08:44 PM
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That's pretty much culture anywhere. Some people call it "the chase", some "hard to get", but it's part of the fun of a relationship. Not everyone is going to be this way, of course, but a lot of relationships begin with one person "chasing" the other. Being pursued is wonderful. The few times I have had good memories of relationships were when they started out with both of us teasingly walking away. Hollywood likes to show the "two people running toward each-other on the beach, ending with a lo…
/r/MensRights20/03/13 04:21 PM
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Don't just dowvote ignorance, people. Educate instead. I'm guessing the problem that a few people are having with your comment is that trans men consider themselves to be men born without a penis, or rather, men born into the wrong body. Words like "biological" are useful here. There's politically correct and then there's being specific. I think in this case, it's being strategically specific in your words. Perhaps "I figured it was a big deal because he was biologically and mentally a man born …
/r/MensRights19/03/13 08:45 PM
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I've worked in the janitorial field a few times, and I'll toss in another counteraction to this experience. Granted, I've never worked at a gas station, but I've worked in food service and factory janitorial, and both led me to believe that the women's bathroom is a horrifying place to clean. Maybe there's something about gas station bathrooms that bring in the worst men or something though. Different industries = different experiences.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 09:56 AM
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I gotta admit, it's pretty kickass for trans men in the first place. It's also kinda nice to see some info on the process for trans men, since the process for trans women is far more widely-known. Yeah, it sucks that it's taken this long for this kind of thing to become public, but at least it finally has.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 09:49 AM
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That kinda feels like a bit of a non-sequitur. We should definitely not define ourselves as the gender-reversal of feminism.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 09:44 AM
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I'm pretty sure we actually have the same category of assault, "grievous bodily harm", and it's probably the same as yours with a few exceptions. If I were less cynical I might assume that she was charged with it, but it just wasn't mentioned. I'm not less cynical though.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 04:38 AM
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If you're not from the U.S. I can understand this, but if you are, you really need to read up on some legal information. A homicide, at least in the U.S. and by dictionary definition, is any time one human ends the life of another human. In the case of unjustified, pre-meditated slaying of an innocent person, it is called "murder". This is almost universally a felony conviction which can lead to anything up to the death sentence in some states. An understandable but still preventable in some way…
/r/MensRights19/03/13 04:34 AM
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Agreed. I just think that it's somewhat antithetical to even have a sexist men's rights advocate. Sure, there are plenty of people who come onto this sub and enter men's rights spaces on the internet, claiming to be MRAs but espousing strongly misogynistic ideas. There are also a lot of live-action shows on Cartoon Network, but that doesn't mean they're cartoons. Like the people who espouse toxic ideas in MRA spaces, the live-action shows on Cartoon Network spring from a similar source and are i…
/r/MensRights19/03/13 03:39 AM
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Gotta be someone out there with a mix of "no taste" and "can't stand the sound of CDs".
/r/MensRights19/03/13 03:26 AM
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Traditionalists and PUAs. Those are the crazy groups you're thinking of. Edit: And they are not MRAs.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 03:11 AM
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He said the argument escalated, and that Hayes began to slap and punch him about the head and back. She bit him on the left forearm, and grabbed his testicles and began to twist them. She's being charged with simple assault. According to the legal dictionary (not Wikipedia, though they pretty much agree here, and the legal dictionary is actually easier to understand): At Common Law, an intentional act by one person that creates an apprehension in another of an imminent harmful or offensive conta…
/r/MensRights18/03/13 11:13 PM
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To be fair, I'd support her taking out a Taylor Swift tape and throwing it...
/r/MensRights18/03/13 10:50 PM
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I don't really see anything in there that indicates that there will be male/female matchups, but I suppose it would be inevitable. I don't watch UFC, but I would assume it's a laddered approach.
/r/MensRights18/03/13 06:25 PM
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Honestly, I think paternity tests should be mandatory in any cases of child support. If the child is revealed to not be biologically related to the father, he can choose to support the child, but it shouldn't be the default.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 02:18 AM
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The problem with that is, it gives the woman many more months to waive parental rights and responsibilities, including after birth. In most states, she can surrender the child, legally, and be off the hook even a fair amount after the birth. I think if a woman can surrender her rights and responsibilities, the man should be able to as well, for the same amount of time. I will agree that if a woman chooses to proceed with the birth, the man should be on the hook for extra expenses during the preg…
/r/MensRights16/03/13 02:17 AM
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Withdrawal is better than nothing, that's for sure. There's also the "rhythm method" which is surprisingly effective when used correctly with a woman who has a stable period. I remember reading something like a 98% effectiveness rating overall for that method, 99% when used "perfectly".
/r/MensRights16/03/13 02:12 AM
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If we include vasectomy and withdrawl for men, we should include tube ligation and withdrawl for women as well.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 01:45 AM
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I think it's just assumed that almost everyone on Reddit has seen at least Clerks, but I get that it's a bit of a stupid assumption. If this had been /r/movies, there might have been more chastising over not providing a source, but I agree in any case. Out of context, this looks like one-way shaming, but the shaming is thrown about all through the movie. I'm not saying you were wrong for judging a situation based on the out-of-context quote. We all do it, and it's almost impossible to break ours…
/r/MensRights13/03/13 02:01 AM
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The responsibility typhonblue is talking about is conscription, mainly. From the advent of women's suffrage to today, women have been granted the right of the vote without the responsibility of conscription. Even as it stands now, women are given the choice to serve in the same combat roles as men (with largely reduced physical requirements), but do not have the social and legal responsibility of Selective Service. I could even go into the outright hypocrisy of the early suffrage leaders trying …
/r/MensRights13/03/13 12:09 AM
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The scene in question was a lot deeper than "women shouldn't like sex". There was a lot of things covered in there. In fact, when they were first discussing his sexual past, she says "You men make me feel sick. You'll sleep with anything that says yes." His total? 12. After the revelation that he'd slept with 12 different girls, she gives him a "playful" slap, then goes into the "men are pigs" mini-rant. One quote was "You only slept with three different people?" "I'm not the pig you are!" The p…
/r/MensRights13/03/13 12:03 AM
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I've found that a lot of people tend to focus primarily on Judaism when talking about circumcision, but with Islam being pretty much the largest religion in the world, I think it deserves at least a side-note in these discussions, as both religions believe that circumcision is necessary and positive. It can be even worse in Islam, because the circumcision is often done much later than it is in Judaism, with boys as old as 15 being expected to undergo the procedure. It is still performed shortly …
/r/MensRights12/03/13 11:36 PM
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I just want to say that I love the innocence project. It has done a LOT of good, and there's not really any negative consequences to their actions, other than the possibility of some frothy-mouthed zealots getting their feelings hurt and the court system being shamed. What sickens me is that this man, now exonerated, is still going to be punished for a crime he didn't commit. He has already been basically forced to leave his home in Oakland, and is still fighting to get his name off the sex offe…
/r/MensRights12/03/13 11:22 PM
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I think it is more problematic than how you portray it. If we hadn't colonized as much of the planet as humans have, I'd be more inclined to agree with you, but we're at a point where I just don't think that a decay in reproduction is bad for the human race. I agree wholly with the idea that a reduction in reproduction is a good one, but it should definitely be something temporary that society can fix in a couple thousand years as lower birth rates with each successive generation begins to dwind…
/r/MensRights12/03/13 09:23 PM
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I read it before finding the MRM through GWW, but I already had a pretty good idea of how idiotic most of this is. I sorta independently realized how full of shit feminist theory was long before all of this, but everyone comes to this realization at their own pace. Still, the few bits that may have made me go "heh" in the article before definitely don't now. Reality does suck the fun out of comedy sometimes, I agree.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 09:09 PM
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The worst insult that boys and men can use with each other is ‘girl’. Or variations thereof. No girl is going to be much bothered by being called a boy. I just... wow. This author doesn't get out much. Boys don’t … wear dresses, put on makeup, play with dolls, do ballet, collect Barbies, share clothes, cry, kiss their friends and so on. Whether girls choose to do these things or not – or are told or not told to do them – the terms are generally how girls are described. They describe to a boy of …
/r/MensRights12/03/13 08:52 PM
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I think that the average person on the street, who if cornered, would say "yeah, I guess I kinda am a feminist" probably has a certain ideal of feminism in mind. The popular understanding of feminism is the old quote of "Feminism: The radical notion that women are people", but people who specifically and routinely call themselves feminists go much deeper than this basic idea. As a concept, I always believed that feminism was basically what we'd call "gender egalitarianism", or more simply "equal…
/r/MensRights12/03/13 06:58 AM
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I'm incredibly torn on this video. I don't like Hannity or any other right-wing (or left-wing) pundit. I am, however, in favor of the second amendment. The problem is, however, that many second-amendment supporters, including myself in the past, have used the "a gun equalizes women" argument. There may be truth in that, but it is a tiny bit sexist, in that it assumes that only women are raped, and only men do the raping. If a woman is raped by another woman, isn't there already equalization? If …
/r/MensRights12/03/13 06:43 AM
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I realized something early on when I first started drinking: I'd take a napkin from the bar, run a wet finger over the rim of the glass, lay the napkin down on the glass, and let a wet ring form on it before leaving my drink anywhere. If I had to leave my drink, I was making sure, as much as I can, that it wasn't going to be tampered with. If someone pulled the napkin off to stick something in the drink, it'd be pretty rare for them to figure out they needed to put it back on exactly as it was, …
/r/MensRights11/03/13 05:47 PM
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Just added my sig. Also tweeted it.
/r/MensRights10/03/13 06:44 AM
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TIL porn stars are mentally troubled. Gail Dines, Diana E.H. Russell, and Andrea Dworkin would probably agree with that assertion.
/r/MensRights10/03/13 03:05 AM
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Men ge thanked everyday for their work.. so I just think that having one day for us is a great thing Left in the misspellings and grammar errors. Seriously, how do men get "thanked" every day in a way that women do not? Mostly the thanks are just payment for work done, not the boss coming out, ignoring the women in the room and just saying "You men did great today, thank you for your hard work. As for you women, I'm not impressed. Get back to work".
/r/MensRights09/03/13 12:36 AM
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There are certainly times when emotion and relative morals are bound to be relevant, but most things in this sub can easily be debated with logic and facts. I try to preface things that are purely opinion with "in my opinion" or "I believe", though I forget to lay those cards on the table sometimes. Keep in mind that several of the men who visit these boards, as well as a significant number of women, have been very much wronged by the system and belittled by women who call themselves feminists. …
/r/MensRights05/03/13 02:01 AM
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This sub largely welcomes feminists to debate topics, so long as things are kept reasonable and fact-based. One of the problems I've seen with many debates with feminists on here is that the concept of "patriarchy" is almost universally rejected here. I've seen intelligent members even debate over that topic. It's not off-limits by any means. The sub is open to anyone who wants to debate, but when things steer into fallacies and downright lies, the discussion ends and the insults begin. Honestly…
/r/MensRights04/03/13 08:26 PM
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Understandable. Honestly, if I ever do get a phone capable of posting to Reddit (basically I'd get myself a Droid Razr of some sort) I'd probably use the voice to text most of the time, just for that reason. I've had very few major issues with that function.
/r/MensRights04/03/13 08:12 PM
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Y'know, this is the kind of thing that makes me love this sub. When she did hop on top of you though, that is a big no-no iny book and needs a serious talking to about how it hurts you. See if she can see if you did that to her, how bad it would be. If she continues, Italy be time to get counseling or eve police intervention. Maybe not the best-worded response, but the point shines through clearly. Come onto Men's Rights and be told that you need to talk the situation over and try to find some u…
/r/MensRights04/03/13 09:42 AM
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Jesus Christ. Not only was she DWI, in possession of drugs and paraphernalia, and driving on a suspended license, she also assaulted three minors with a deadly weapon. Courts are insane.
/r/MensRights04/03/13 09:27 AM
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The /r/MensRights subreddit is for open, clear, free discussion of men's rights and collaboration. There are many examples of actual activism pointed out here, many of them through other websites such as AVFM Community of the Wrongly Accused. This isn't really a meeting place for calls to action. There have been many calls to action in the past and they have done alright. The basic purpose of a forum like this is to educate, inform, and debate the topics at hand, figuring out what we need to tak…
/r/MensRights03/03/13 01:44 AM
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I believe the federal age is 18 to prevent people going to different states for younger girls outside of their own state. You're probably right about that being the reason for the slight misunderstanding though. The "three year" rule seems to be basically what you're saying there. From what I can find, it seems that it lowers the offense when prosecuted, and it's not a "sex offender registry" kind of crime at that point, but it's still illegal, just as it's illegal when both parties are underage…
/r/MensRights28/02/13 07:33 PM
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Well yeah.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 04:13 AM
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Ignorance isn't an excuse for men, it shouldn't be for women either. I once got into an argument with a feminist who took the side of tossing a guy in prison for many, many years for having sex with an underage girl. I asked "what if she lied about her age? Should guys have to check a woman's ID, even if they meet her in a bar?" She basically said "yes, they should". I then asked "what if she has a fake ID?", and she still said that it should be prosecuted. This was all part of an overall conver…
/r/MensRights28/02/13 04:02 AM
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California's another 18+ state, believe it or not. Funny thing is, right across the state border in Nevada, it's 16. It's always made me sigh that a beautiful, loving relationship with two consenting adults becomes rape due to stupid, artificial boundary lines. Admittedly, 18 and 16 is fine in California, so high-school sweethearts don't have to worry, but it's still odd.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 03:58 AM
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That's not going to happen. Men who are the biological father rarely get even shared custody. That ain't gonna happen.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 03:49 AM
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Ah, for some reason I seem to have conflated the TNG episode with the Enterprise episode. Both incredibly good episodes.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 08:06 PM
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Poor choice of words, but a good question. The crew's bias could be somewhat excusable because they're friends with Seven. It's still bias, but it's in-group bias of a different sort. Having a bias toward your own social group is pretty much expected, though the crews of the various Star Trek shows have been forced to side against each-other in different ways in the past. One of the best examples of this, to me, is the trial regarding Data's sentience. Picard was Data's advocate, while Riker was…
/r/MensRights25/02/13 08:03 PM
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I vaguely remember that episode, but the one I remember best is the episode that had a race with three genders. The male and female genders were equal in every way, but the third gender was treated as little more than a commodity. Because the third gender is so rare, they're basically a product for couples to use to conceive. I'm not entirely certain who the real-life parallel is for that episode, be it simply an inventive racial oppression story, or something deeper that Roddenberry etc. wanted…
/r/MensRights25/02/13 07:57 PM
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You were thinking of a different case than I was. I know, this is a pretty late reply, and I'm sorry about that, but I wanted to point out the relevance of what I was talking about. Mary Kay Letourneau. Short synopsis: Adult teacher had sexual intercourse with a 13-year old student, raping him under the legal definition of the law. This resulted in a total of eight years imprisonment (she was originally only sentenced to six months in county jail for the rape of a 13-year old boy, earning the re…
/r/MensRights25/02/13 06:24 AM
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I've reported this video for hate speech.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 05:44 AM
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My local police update posted this about a man who had been charged and refused bail for murder a woman, most of the replies were like this! "Wonder what happened there.. Maybe the woman was violent and he self defended himself but still not excuse for murder.. This world is a sad place to live in." "Ur a tool" "She must have done something awful for that to happen !!" "Agree ^<sup>"</sup> Feels a bit different the other way around.
/r/MensRights23/02/13 05:16 AM
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Er, was it also inconvenient that the boy was underage?
/r/MensRights22/02/13 03:34 AM
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This is one of those things where there are no acceptable casualties. I support anonymity for the accused in cases of rape for the same reason I am against the death penalty. Even one innocent person is too many. The punishment for the wrongfully convicted is bad enough (sent into a prison environment with the knowledge of what he was convicted for being enough to likely have him killed while incarcerated), but being absolved of the crime by the criminal justice system doesn't really help matter…
/r/MensRights21/02/13 11:03 PM
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I'd like to see this as well. These are not people we want associated with the MRM.
/r/MensRights21/02/13 04:43 AM
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Maybe that rape is on par with murdering a fellow human Well shit, that means there are a lot of people in prison who have been virtually murdered. Maybe we should take a second look at our penal system. Oh wait, that won't do. That won't do at all.
/r/MensRights21/02/13 04:42 AM
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Well yeah, he's basically a fame-hound. His whole schtick is mainly that he's a celebrity.
/r/MensRights21/02/13 04:26 AM
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As do I!
/r/MensRights21/02/13 03:37 AM
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To lazy to respond to everything you said. Far more honest than I've been in many cases. I'll level, I'm about the same. We're both pretty much on the same side of things here, and I really don't want to earn an enemy, so I'll let it all go. I do try to be logical and proof-heavy when I can, and I'm glad to know you are the same. Well-spoken and argued, I'll concede.
/r/MensRights21/02/13 03:29 AM
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Huge difference between lying and being snarky or sarcastic. Emotional responses are different too. There's a lot of integrity that I will not let go of, but apart from lying, why do we have to be consistently dispassionate when our opponents are making headway using weapons we refuse to touch? We're not fighting for imaginary internet points. We're fighting for rights, and sometimes you need to appeal to people's emotions to get things done. You don't have to, and I find it distasteful, but if …
/r/MensRights21/02/13 03:01 AM
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Maybe for intellectual debate, with people who have a solid grasp of dispassionate rhetoric, but let's be honest with ourselves: Logic is always trumped by passionate, emotional fallacies in everything, even jury trials. More importantly, fallacious arguments win political debates on the level where things get real. Presidential candidates don't win by being logical. They win by appealing to authority, appealing to emotions, or just plain lying. Propositions aren't rejected or accepted on the lo…
/r/MensRights21/02/13 02:37 AM
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The one shitty option, which should be pointed out can actually cause permanent sterility, and requires major surgery to reverse, and isn't even close to 100% effective. That's right, even barring botched vasectomies, the procedure can still fail to stop a pregnancy. It's exceedingly rare, but it has happened.
/r/MensRights21/02/13 01:14 AM
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All it does is give men some of the same choices that women have. FTFY. We still can't abort or surrender the child for adoption.
/r/MensRights21/02/13 01:03 AM
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You know, I'm upvoting you. I agree with the sentiment. I just have to mention that this kind of remark feels a lot like the sort of things some feminists say. Maybe that's a good sign. We're getting to the point where we can be snarky about stuff. "The Men's Rights Movement is the radical idea that men are people." Though, we need our own snark.
/r/MensRights21/02/13 01:00 AM
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Physical signs of trauma, presence of coercive substances in the system, and corroborative statements from witnesses can also really help in finding a conviction. Unfortunately, these aren't always present after a rape. Sadly, that's why some rapists will go free, but the radfem idea of assuming guilt in all cases of claimed rape is ridiculous.
/r/MensRights20/02/13 08:08 PM
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Well fuck, the chastity belt could easily prevent 100% of HIV, HPV, and, hell, ALL STIs for that matter. Not to mention it would be a wonderful protection against the possibility of physical trauma to the genitals! It'd even be a great way to eliminate the introduction of foreign contaminants, which can cause yeast infections and even lead to many other diseases, including cancer! Forget anti-masturbation, the female chastity belt is awesome at preventing tons of problems for women. Since it isn…
/r/MensRights20/02/13 06:42 AM
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This is an issue about men's bodily integrity. We live in a society where men have part of their fucking genitals cut off at birth. Male babies are given no choice in this matter. This is the place for this discussion. By shoving this important debate off to the side, we ignore it, telling men that it's not important. This is a men's rights issue. It's a very important one. See you're still debating it. Debating this issue just divides men who should be uniting. Seriously? We need to be unified …
/r/MensRights20/02/13 06:38 AM
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All it would take is a medical exam and a DNA test. That only proves that the pair had intercourse, not that it was rape. Rape is undeniably difficult to prove. That's why there are so few convictions. It's certainly not a conspiracy by the patriarchy to keep rape convictions down or something. It's just a fact that it's a very difficult crime to prove. As a very unfortunate consequence, men and women who are raped have a very hard time proving it.
/r/MensRights20/02/13 03:48 AM
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Again, it's not due to the genes or biology that you're forced to live with others being so afraid of the consequences of being associated with you. You're a victim of the idiotic modern ideals that make men afraid, just as we're victims of society making women afraid to be around us alone. It's nothing to be ashamed of unless you joined in and helped create it. It's not your fault, and it's obvious you want to help fix both problems.
/r/MensRights20/02/13 03:07 AM
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Judges also said that the acquittal of a man charged with rape was enough to clear his name and reputation. Aside from the gendered wording in this, there's also the fact that we know for certain it's an untrue statement. One big recent case is the Duke Lacrosse team. God, that kind of thinking just makes me sick. Thanks for bringing this up.
/r/MensRights20/02/13 03:04 AM
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Do not be ashamed to be female because of idiots like this, please. Just pity and despise her. Just because you have the same genitals doesn't mean you're anything like this lying, manipulative monster. Just be proud that you're a sensible human being who has the mental capacity to understand these things being wrong and pity her for her idiocy and cold-heartedness.
/r/MensRights20/02/13 03:00 AM
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Honestly, you have a pretty good perspective on it already. Sometimes it takes an outside view to fully grasp the scope of misandry and the idiocy that surrounds our legal system. This is the real reason I like women in and around the movement. A woman who has seen through the bullshit is much more likely to have a level-headed view of the issues that don't directly affect her, though in your case, most of them seem to have directly affected you. One thing I love about what you've said is that y…
/r/MensRights19/02/13 10:12 PM
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Yep, and it's wrong here too. I voted to abolish the death penalty in California. That one didn't pass. Guess the care and compassion disappears when you're talking about killing another human being in this state, but God forbid we make some chickens a little uncomfortable.
/r/MensRights19/02/13 09:18 PM
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It's an all-or-nothing gambit for a lot of people. Between the trolls who want us to look bad by creating and upvoting horrible comments and the people who understandably aim for the final goal while ignoring intermediate steps, this sub has a lot of weird up/downvotes. It also has a bit to do with the impossible dichotomy that people stick themselves with when something like my comment is presented. Parsing it out, it feels like "if you upvote, you agree with castration and torture because I sa…
/r/MensRights19/02/13 10:59 AM
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I'll agree with Sharpedgs here, I guess clarification was necessary. It seems this whole thing is just filled with "needs clarification".
/r/MensRights19/02/13 10:53 AM
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Well, I certainly don't agree with the idea of torture or castration for these crimes any more than the death penalty, but I guess that's a tiny bit better.
/r/MensRights19/02/13 05:26 AM
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Well, she is parroting the patently false claim that men are almost never raped, which is proven to be a complete fabrication when you actually look at the data from the CDC.
/r/MensRights19/02/13 02:16 AM
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Women’s groups are objecting to provisions like making anti-sexual laws gender neutral, Dipshits. keeping marital rape outside the purview of the Act, Okay, that's kinda fucked. Raoe is rape, regardless of where it happens and who does it. I'll give them this one. impunity to police and public servants Yeah, cops shouldn't be allowed to rape people and get off with any less punishment than civilians. They got me here. and the death penalty. I still can't figure out what exactly is going on with …
/r/MensRights19/02/13 01:20 AM
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Very well-put. I was raised fairly similarly actually. My mom always basically told me "never hit a girl unless she can take it like a man". A bit of sexist wording, but the meaning is still the same whether you make it PC or not. I am the type of guy who won't escalate to physical retaliation unless said physical conflict is already at hand, and even then I'd rather find a way to just stop the fight before it begins. If I'm being wailed on, though, I will fight back. I'm usually a person who gr…
/r/MensRights18/02/13 10:21 PM
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I'm sure that if more men actually reported the abuse, the number would raise significantly. Not only are men not supposed to hit women, they're supposed to shrug off being hit by women.
/r/MensRights18/02/13 07:19 PM
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It'd be interesting to review the statistics as age increases. First, break down the 18-28 demographic into 1-2 year smaller demographics, then move up from there. We could see if age has any effect on reciprocal violence in a domestic setting. I have a feeling it would show that there is an increase in reciprocal violence in relation to a decrease in one-sided violence. My reasoning for this hypothesis is that I believe that the longer men are away from home and in their own chosen relationship…
/r/MensRights18/02/13 07:18 PM
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But that's what the military is to men and they're even more underpaid and overworked. And very important to note that until 1970, men could be forced into taking on that "career". We still have a law on the books that says men have to sign up to be eligible to be forced into that job, but we have no similar responsibility for women.
/r/MensRights18/02/13 08:29 AM
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We don't have the squads of rampaging crazies to upvote damaging comments on their boards.
/r/MensRights18/02/13 07:35 AM
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Aaaaand now I have to go watch Dr. Strangelove again.
/r/MensRights17/02/13 08:03 PM
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I can understand it, it's just so rare for someone even just in a rural community to have never been on a 4-wheeler of some sort. This is coming from someone who was raised in a rural community himself. I pretty much know nobody within about 10 miles who hasn't at least been on a four-wheeler once. Even the majority of people in town have probably done so, despite not living on a farm or even veyr close to one. Admittedly, I've been on more go-karts than farm-related vehicles of any sort, but I'…
/r/MensRights16/02/13 06:00 AM
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Already did! But keep working on this.
/r/MensRights15/02/13 05:13 AM
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Somehow I just came up with the way to frame this argument properly and give voice to exactly why all this concentration on women's issues is bad for men's issues. Simply put, there's no such thing as an infinite resource. Public funding, charitable donations, and an individual's time devoted to causes are all limited resources. The finite nature of resources means that the more resources are taken up by women's issues, the fewer resources are available for men's issues. Even the human capabilit…
/r/MensRights14/02/13 09:53 PM
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The mighty roar of a river can carve out mountains, slamming through hard rock and shaping canyons. A single, quiet drip, whose sound is lost in the thunderous report of the river, can wear away at the side of a canyon over ages, eventually forming a crevice through which the river will take preferential course. Over time, the path of the river can be changed by the subtle, patient, quiet influence of the drip. When viewed later, it appears that the river has had its way. The river pulverized th…
/r/MensRights14/02/13 09:11 AM
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Something being rare does not make it less serious. I can't believe this is even a question anyway. "Male rape isn't as bad as female rape" and "MGM isn't as bad as FGM". 6 kids being murdered in high school isn't as bad as 27 being murdered in an elementary school. Is this true? Debatable, but ABSOLUTELY IRRELEVANT. Incomparable? Psychological trauma is universal.
/r/MensRights14/02/13 06:48 AM
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Stop complaining that feminists aren't doing your work for you. All we ask is that feminists stop saying that feminism helps men too, if that's a requirement. Either mainstream feminists need to stop saying that feminism is helpful to men, or they need to start doing what they say they're doing.
/r/MensRights13/02/13 08:53 PM
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That number seems low for MGM.
/r/MensRights13/02/13 10:28 AM
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"Another editor slapped a guy when 'he told me he thought he had breast cancer' (Okay, that one made us laugh really hard.)" Okay, no. No funny retort. No well-reasoned comeback here. I'm just going to say FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKING SHIT-SUCKING PIECE OF GARBAGE. That isn't fucking funny by any means. There is nothing humorous there. It's not okay. Forget the sick, socially-accepted abuse. This is fucking wrong. Men. Get. Breast. Cancer. It is a serious problem. It is a killer, and almost no man is w…
/r/MensRights13/02/13 10:10 AM
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I got to "sausage fest!" before I gave up. This was the third comment at the time, mind you.
/r/MensRights13/02/13 09:04 AM
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Yeah, it makes it a different story when it's something I want to hear about and it's a beautiful person saying it. Not only is she worth listening to, but she makes you want to listen and look.
/r/MensRights13/02/13 12:30 AM
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Oh, very beautiful. It's just, there are tons of beautiful women out there who don't have that kind of personality. Honestly, I care more about the fact that she's so passionate and awesome with what she's talking about. I probably wouldn't have said "I think I'm in love" if I weren't physically attracted to her as well, but I figure that's a given. I love GWW too, even though I'm not physically attracted to her, but the way she says things isn't attractive to me. It's awesome and clear. I admir…
/r/MensRights12/02/13 09:46 PM
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It's also possible that the Germanic mythological Santa Claus was based on a real German man!
/r/MensRights12/02/13 07:28 PM
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That's not queer. That's batshit insane. You get an upvote, if for nothing else, putting up with four hours of that inane blather without screaming.
/r/MensRights12/02/13 07:23 PM
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So.. myth confirmed I guess.
/r/MensRights12/02/13 07:07 PM
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Aren't the anti-MRM people always saying "oh come on, it's not like women are going around stealing sperm and getting pregnant!" and the like?
/r/MensRights12/02/13 07:21 AM
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I think I'm in love. Passionate, clear-headed, intelligent and she sticks to her guns.
/r/MensRights12/02/13 06:54 AM
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Good God I hope this is just a troll. If not, you are seriously messed up.
/r/MensRights12/02/13 06:19 AM
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I'd be pretty surprised that someone who grew up on a farm never rode a four-wheeler too. Kinda like being surprised that someone who grew up in a big city has never taken a ride in a cab.
/r/MensRights09/02/13 06:46 AM
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I think a lot of people consider that rape, especially since it's the only form of female on male rape that's accepted in the FBI's statistics, as well as the CDC report. Rape is largely about power and control. That's pretty well-known. Penn Gillette made a pretty good point about that. "Fucking isn't the fucking point".
/r/MensRights09/02/13 06:42 AM
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As much as some feminists have a lot in common with MRAs, I honestly disagree that the majority share a lot. I do want it known that I think that while feminism may help men out in some areas due to sexism affecting everyone, I'd say that MRM is the same way. Take, for example, the issue of the draft. It's pretty heavily debated here, and I admit I'm somewhat undecided on the issue myself, other than believing that it should be the same for both sides. If men are to be drafted, then so should wo…
/r/MensRights09/02/13 06:39 AM
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They included the rape statistics for lifetime though. That's what I don't understand. I get that they discounted the "forced to penetrate", thus bringing the statistics for rape in general down by a lot for men, but they simply put stars for the forced penetration, attempted forced penetration, and drug/alcohol coercion.
/r/MensRights09/02/13 04:22 AM
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Agreed, it's irrelevant as to the morality and reality of forced sex by a woman on a man. I just think that these points need to be addressed, if for no other reason than to show how desperate some people are to keep men's victimization suppressed. All this stuff does is lead to division in genders. I've had, on more than one occasion, a woman cry out that I have no idea what it's like to be raped because I'm a man, despite having been technically raped on several occasions. I'm not limiting it …
/r/MensRights09/02/13 04:15 AM
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I'm upvoting because you're questioning things, and without questions, there are no answers. I vehemently disagree with you, of course, but that doesn't mean I'm going to tell you that by downvoting you. That crap needs to stop, otherwise we end up with just a circlejerk with no dissent. You brought up the idea that circumcision may be transference. It's a valid hypothesis. It is, however, irrelevant to the morality of the practice. This board concentrates heavily on body integrity. It's a basic…
/r/MensRights09/02/13 03:43 AM
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I'd like to point out that while a penis rarely tears, it can be injured in many other ways due to rough, non-consensual sex. The tissues can be permanently damaged if the penis is bent, which can lead to not only the inability to ever have sex again, but also urinary issues and further complications. This happens, and it's horrifying to think about. It can happen even in consensual sex, though rarely in that case. I've seen porn outtakes where it's happened, and it is absolutely horrifying.
/r/MensRights09/02/13 03:23 AM
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Also, the CDC report that was referenced does not actually support the statistics. The report table lists "completed rapes" separately from "forced to penetrate" by putting the latter under the category of "other sexual violence". In 2010, men who were forced to penetrate is nearly equal to the total of entries in the "rape" category. Simply put, the equivalent numbers are: Completed forced penetration: 620,000 for women. No statistics gathered for 2010 for men, apparently. "Made to penetrate", …
/r/MensRights09/02/13 03:22 AM
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In what way has feminism helped to change that? Breaking out of traditional roles and societal preconceptions is one of the primary tenets of the MRM. All I've seen from feminism of the past was feminists fighting to allow women to serve in atypically female roles. We've seen the great advances that feminism has brought to women. Nobody laughs at a woman who wants to work 40 hours a week. It's completely acceptable for women to wear pants, have short hair, wear no makeup, and still not be questi…
/r/MensRights09/02/13 01:43 AM
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I don't know how exactly to describe it, but there's a little line of skin going from the head to the shaft basically, that sticks out a little bit. It's the most sensitive spot on the whole thing by far, and yeah, it's definitely not as elastic as the rest.
/r/MensRights08/02/13 04:26 AM
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Hey, here's an idea! Go head to a discussion thread on SRS involving female genital mutilation and say "don't be such a pussy". See how that works out.
/r/MensRights08/02/13 03:44 AM
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I have the same issue. Generally the soreness happens on the underside of my glans just below the head, where I still maintain some of the internal nerves from having my foreskin as a newborn.
/r/MensRights08/02/13 03:42 AM
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This is just sick. I can't really elaborate any more, because it just seems it should be pretty obvious why it's sick.
/r/MensRights07/02/13 10:48 AM
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Of course not, and I'd hope that nobody on this sub would want to see a legal claim dismissed because of statistics saying that it's more likely to be false than true, especially with that margin. You've gotta keep in mind, however, that individuals may dismiss such claims with such a large number of people "crying wolf". This board is largely comprised of men who have been severely burned by the system in some way, many who were falsely accused. The emotions of this conversation are impossible …
/r/MensRights07/02/13 05:22 AM
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I just wanted to butt in here: where either you throw all men in jail or question the accusations from all women. Replace "women" with "people" and you've got my belief. That's how the justice system is supposed to work. All accusations of all crimes are to be questioned. The defendant is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Be it rape, murder, theft, or graffiti, I don't care. The presumption of innocence is key in the U.S. court system, and that presumption means questioning both the alleged…
/r/MensRights06/02/13 10:29 PM
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I'm reserving up or down votes for this one. This is where Poe's Law comes in. In either case, this shouldn't be downvoted. This is either someone's genuine opinion or a funny (albeit scary) sarcasm post. If the former, it's simply a symptom of everything we work against here. If the latter, it's far from the worst /s post here.
/r/MensRights06/02/13 10:24 PM
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That's the problem with these comparisons. Dilution of terms means that using a hyperbole becomes less impactful over time. "Godwin's Law" may only imply that bringing up Hitler and Nazism is a bad thing, but it's pretty obviously true. Comparing a perceived lesser evil to Hitler or Nazis brings the apparent evil of the latter down and the former up, but the net result is a loss of power of the words. It's similar to saying "shit" on T.V. The more it's said, the less people care. Look at South P…
/r/MensRights06/02/13 05:17 PM
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Yeah, I've stuck with MSE since I found out about it and installed it. Really, the only reason I'd ever use anything else is if I were to put a Window XP partition on here, but I don't feel any real need to do that, as I can just use Virtualbox.
/r/MensRights05/02/13 11:26 PM
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At least one every party, but they rarely get it. I've been that one before, the first time I got plastered. I drank WAY too much and ended up making quite a mess the next morning. I probably had alcohol poisoning, too. Luckily I survived and had some friends around to make sure I didn't do anything too bad.
/r/MensRights05/02/13 04:13 AM
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Honestly, I have reasons for believing in mandatory testing. My half-brother's paternity was questionable for a long time and he even suggested a test, but when my dad actually went through with the testing, he got pissed off and still refuses to keep in contact with us. It can be a little hurtful if the person who raised you questions your paternity. It was a minor question, but it was still possible. A mandatory test would take any blame off the father and place it on the state. That way, if i…
/r/MensRights04/02/13 10:30 PM
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At the very least, I think paternity tests should be mandatory before any child support payments are required. Not just in the case of suspicion, but in all cases. If the child is shown to not be the man's, child support should be automatically denied.
/r/MensRights03/02/13 09:52 PM
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Y'know, aside from the potential for cancer, non-genital warts can be pretty damned annoying at the very least. I somehow picked them up when in was in Jr. high (6-8th grade here) and they got really bad up until about 11th grade. Freezing, paint-on medicine, cutting them off, scraping them off, none of it worked. They eventually faded on their own, but that was a long time to have to hide my hands. I also have irreversible nail damage on both thumbs, my right middle and index fingers, and a sca…
/r/MensRights01/02/13 02:04 PM
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That's the thing though. This sub understandably compares and contrasts itself to feminism, and with it, we get all the polar opposite version that aggressive and misandrist (a word I had to add to Firefox's dictionary) throw at men. The biggest differences there are that we're supposed to be different. We're supposed to be about equal rights for men. We're supposed to be creating more liberty for both sides, not just taking it away from one. Sometimes, you have to do the negative to draw attent…
/r/MensRights01/02/13 01:22 PM
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That kind of thing is the main issue I've seen here and with a lot of videos involving the MRM. The problem is, there really isn't much of a hivemind when it comes to that. We have many users who are normal, understanding people, but we also have a small, dedicated group of people who are more about swinging the pendulum back toward men, rather than trying to stop it swinging at all. It's a problem that's impossible to really avoid when talking about these issues. We have some issues that draw i…
/r/MensRights01/02/13 12:27 PM
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Yeah, that's just a case of going way overboard for sure. In that case a student could have even been taking advantage of the teacher's attraction to possibly get a better grade. Both sides of the equation can be guilty of abusing something, so the shitstorm is kinda too much. Still, reasonable and understandable are two different things.
/r/MensRights30/01/13 09:48 PM
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More importantly, when discussing Olympics, is that coed events are nearly nonexistent. Equestrian, mixed doubles and boating events, only one of which is more about athleticism than skill, are the only events in which men and women co-compete. So, as you implied, more American women are better than women in other countries than American men are better than men in other countries.
/r/MensRights30/01/13 09:47 PM
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In the case of a young teacher and a barely younger student, as you describe, the shitstorm is somewhat valid. Without the age difference, all you're left with is the potential abuse of power inherently possible in teacher/student relationships. It's bad to assume any misconduct, but it's certainly possible.
/r/MensRights30/01/13 09:18 PM
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I agree wholeheartedly, just playing devil's advocate a bit. I very intentionally used the word "rationalize" here.
/r/MensRights30/01/13 05:41 AM
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I wouldn't say that most men wouldn't have admitted it, but I would definitely say that its likely that a significant number wouldn't admit/realize it. I'm sure a lot of guys actually rationalized their rapes after the fact by saying that they were just hesitant at first. I know with my own experience that the couple of times I've said "no", I started to enjoy it partway through. For the longest time I just figured it was just that I wanted it and didn't realize I wanted it. And of course, there…
/r/MensRights30/01/13 03:32 AM
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Honestly, if you express an unpopular opinion here, the worst the majority of subscribers here will do is pull out the facts and lay them out to prove you wrong. This tends to be a pretty open group of people, and discussion about why certain statistics are skewed tends to remain civil. Once in a while we get assholes who say some pretty mean things to dissenters, but the majority don't. This all may have to do with the fact that a lot of MRM issues have to do with regaining lost rights, rather …
/r/MensRights30/01/13 03:24 AM
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I can't believe you like money too. We should hang out!
/r/MensRights29/01/13 10:02 PM
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GO 'WAY! 'BATIN'!"
/r/MensRights29/01/13 09:11 AM
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Same-sex marriages would eliminate the difference between male and female No, no it wouldn't. Gay couples and lesbian couples tend to be very different, statistically speaking. If anything, it exaggerates the differences somewhat because you have two people of the same sex/gender. Completely false. Is same-sex marriage like interracial marriage? In short, the answer is no. Okay, true, but they're not expounding on why they're different, in terms of the objections to them, and they're using the d…
/r/MensRights29/01/13 04:53 AM
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You find me a university that isn't supplied with government funds, either state or federal, and I'll give you one that may be okay to use these bullshit ideas. Still looking? Yeah, thought so. They just don't exist. Even if it's a tax break, it's effectively government money, by the rubric of "lowering taxes increases government spending".
/r/MensRights29/01/13 04:13 AM
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Now, I know this may not seem necessarily like a men's rights topic right off the bat and is only exciting to gamers, but I think we've all watched the videos and to some extent, experienced the gender gap in primary education at this point. Something like this implemented in schools, especially in high school, could heavily encourage boys to act in a manner more consistent with today's teaching methods while maintaining the less competitive structure that girls, on average, tend to do better in…
/r/MensRights29/01/13 04:08 AM
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Is it weird that my first thought on reading this is "I seriously hope this guy isn't friendzoning his best friend"? This is the first time I've ever considered it, too.
/r/MensRights28/01/13 09:42 PM
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Seems to me that most atheists I've heard from would be more apt to say "I am sufficiently convinced God doesn't exist".
/r/MensRights27/01/13 10:39 PM
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I apologize. I think I should have used the word "personally". It was a pretty messed-up, insensitive way to say it. My lack of clarity has been a problem in the past. I still think the self-interest part is difficult to achieve for most people, not because it doesn't affect them in a direct way, but it's a lot harder for people to get excited about other people potentially dying than it is for them to get excited about themselves potentially dying. It's an understandable way to feel, but it's d…
/r/MensRights26/01/13 06:20 AM
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I would rather see it eliminated entirely, but like I said, it needs to be an issue for both sides before we can ever count on feminist support of this. Things must be equally bad before they can become equally good. It's a ridiculously sad way to go about it, but to change such a strong violation of human rights, it's going to take a lot more than just one relatively small activist group. We're going to need consensus that it's bad, and we have a century of proof that progressive feminism isn't…
/r/MensRights26/01/13 01:26 AM
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I think it was Penn and Teller who asked "aren't all violent crimes hate crimes?"
/r/MensRights26/01/13 01:07 AM
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One step at a time. We can't expect others to fight for something that isn't in their self-interest. We can certainly hope they will, but if this becomes an issue for everyone, regardless of gender, it becomes an issue of self-interest for everyone. Making the draft a real fear works a lot better than waiting and trying to shame feminists into siding with us, because at the end of the day, that's not going to work at all. If it becomes more obviously a human rights issue, maybe feminism will tak…
/r/MensRights25/01/13 11:04 PM
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I agree.
/r/MensRights25/01/13 03:18 AM
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For the second part, I more meant the school tests. Military tests should be the same requirements for all, specifically the current standards for men.
/r/MensRights25/01/13 03:02 AM
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I know they're not "sissy" at all and that they're just using different muscles, but that's what the other boys and even the gym coach (a 5'2 musclebound traditional kinda guy) called them. I really think they should share equal use with regular pull ups because those muscles need working out too. And yeah, I think that utilizing the hang rather than pull ups in school is acceptable, because it allows for the natural biological differences to be accounted for. We're not looking for the "best of …
/r/MensRights25/01/13 02:51 AM
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And thank you for sharing your side. I think the variety of ideas on this sub are important. Kinda shows that while we're all for better rights for men and women, we have widely varying ideas in other places. Just shows that the MRM isn't about political parties.
/r/MensRights25/01/13 01:32 AM
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Which always bugged me a bit in school, but at least there it's understandable. The whole idea there was that everyone had to be as physically fit as they could be, so girls had to do hangs while boys had to do full pull-ups, though to be fair, we could choose to do "sissy pull-ups", meaning putting the knuckles on the other side of the bar.
/r/MensRights25/01/13 01:28 AM
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Exactly why things need to change. Yank the rug out from under those who are peeing on it.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 10:50 PM
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Hard to say. We've got yet another president with a happy spot for war, so there may just be another draft. I think at 30 with my terrible physical fitness, I'm relatively safe, but I don't really want to see anyone being forced into fighting and dying for a cause they disagree with. Like you said, it's not likely, but it could happen. If the selective service were to only be used in the case of an invasion, then it would be valid. People can disagree with political motivations for war, but when…
/r/MensRights24/01/13 10:50 PM
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And while I don't like the idea myself, I do know some people who've been able to separate the ridiculous racial component of national socialism from the core ideas of the system itself and support the system without the racist tendencies. I'm very much a fan of democracy and would like to see America become a direct democracy, as well as a fan of capitalism. But this is kinda wandering off the topic of this sub.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 10:44 PM
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There's almost certainly some understandable feeling of disrespect for women entering male-dominated fields due to the quota ideas and the bred-in nature of feeling like it's impossible to really become successful. Some of that is due to the existence of quotas and being told that men will never accept a woman as a valid peer by feminist groups, while some is a little bit of reality. It's impossible to forcefully change the way others think of you, and entering a female-dominated workforce has a…
/r/MensRights24/01/13 10:41 PM
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And see, there's always going to be people who take advantage of any system put in place to protect others. The difference is that while some assholes out there will take advantage of a fair system by simply skirting the child support payments, the vast majority that I've known are just incapable of stringing together enough cash to meet the requirements put on them, and that kind of debt can have serious ramifications for education and jobs. One friend of mine was actually so deep in debt to hi…
/r/MensRights24/01/13 10:38 PM
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I understand. I know a lot of people dislike them, but I still wear mine because I like the way it fits and I feel it looks better than most hats ever do on me. I need something to protect my bald head if I'm going to be in the sun for extended periods of time!
/r/MensRights24/01/13 10:17 PM
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Well then, as I said, please disregard!
/r/MensRights24/01/13 10:16 PM
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Obviously not proof, but it certainly doesn't help defend my weird idea.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 10:10 PM
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I honestly don't know where I picked up that bit of false trivia.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 10:09 PM
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That was my feeling as well when I was reading the article. When you've got something to prove, you do your best not to screw up. Male scientists are definitely overrepresented, so they don't feel it as necessary to be as honest. It's a sick thought process, but it's there. I will say that I believe it may be a bit of both, though. The gender card is out there and can be used, but it's pretty much impossible to prove in a study like this.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 01:24 PM
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Once again, these issues are difficult to sift through because feminism will bend the truth or outright lie about the situations involved. Men are raped, plain and simple. Not just by other men, but also by women. If "no" means "no", then it means it regardless of the person saying it, and there are many men who don't realize that they've been raped. Men's bodies, just like women's, can be coerced into acting as they would during consensual intercourse, including erections and orgasms, but these…
/r/MensRights24/01/13 01:20 PM
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I think both this article and your response are a bit off-base for this sub. I agree that the predominant gender roles were determined long before the feminist movement, and even long before America. In fact, much of the issues outlined here are issues that have existed throughout history, and many of them are opposed by feminists as well as MRAs. Calling it "slavery" is a bit of an extremist view, and something we absolutely don't need to do if we're to achieve any level of parity. Many of our …
/r/MensRights24/01/13 01:19 PM
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Well, nobody said it was going to be as easy, but I have insane amounts of respect for anyone who joins the military, male or female. I might have a slight amount of additional respect for a woman who is physically capable of doing the same tasks as a man, but since I know I can't do them, it's gotta be about the same.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 01:18 PM
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That's definitely a good point, but as far as I ever knew, these timed runs were done without extra weight added. Correct me if I'm wrong.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 11:29 AM
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Careful now. That same study could easily be turned around to point out how the patriarchy has influenced the media to cause humans to objectify women. but because both genders do it, "the media is probably a prime suspect." And we all know that the media is controlled by the patriarchy. /s
/r/MensRights24/01/13 11:09 AM
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It is a shame, but the comparison is far too often abused. Picking the ultimate villain to compare someone to is simply breaking the rules of intelligent debate. Bringing up the atrocities of Nazi Germany is distracting simply because the mere thought of those is enough to shift the focus from the argument at hand into an entirely new argument. Discussing that period of history should be perfectly acceptable, as should discussing any period of history. Even invoking the trends that led to Nazi G…
/r/MensRights24/01/13 10:45 AM
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He was a dietary vegetarian at the behest of his doctor, as far as I understand. He didn't hate meat or killing animals for meat. He just had digestive issues, most likely. Of course, him instituting a slew of animal protection laws doesn't make animal cruelty laws invalid today, nor does it even make him an animal rights activist. Nationalism can exert itself in some unusual ways.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 10:35 AM
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You really should, because the two terms have become interchangeable in public discourse. A lot of people even use the word "fascist" in place of "nazi" to avoid Godwin's Law.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 10:32 AM
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Do the requirements for women running even make sense? I was always under the impression that, statistically, women have higher stamina than men when it comes to running. If that's not true, disregard, but if it is, then the standards for women should be higher. Of course, this is all pointless, as the same duties should be required of all Marine infantry, regardless of male or female. Thus, the physical testing should be identical as well.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 10:11 AM
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Many people feel the draft is against the nature of our country, while some (somewhat incorrectly) say that it is unconstitutional. Vaguely speaking, it is. The 13th amendment is loose with its words so as to avoid bullshit loopholes, but it effectively outlaws the draft. I suppose if we take the spirit of the amendment and not extract any kind of extra meaning from it, we can simply say it means "no more slaves or indentured servants", but parsing it as most other amendments are parsed means th…
/r/MensRights24/01/13 10:05 AM
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Highlighting and pointing it out are good things, I'd think. Maybe if it were more common knowledge, it could be fought against popularly.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 09:39 AM
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There's a lot of promising research being done on adult stem cell research, far more promising than any embryonic stem cell research, in fact. I get that you're not advocating unwilling circumcision, but to me this is pretty much neutral information at best. I also find it more than a little offensive that this article basically is equating the foreskin to the umbilical cord, something that absolutely must be severed after birth. Again, no hate to you for playing devil's advocate.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 09:07 AM
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Which they could do with the foreskins of the few men who voluntarily have theirs removed later in life when they're 18 or older.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 08:45 AM
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Really? The pill and the new IUD are linked to a good chance of losing reproductive capability in the long run? Or are you just saying "these women are giving up the ability to be pregnant while they're in service, but they can stop taking the pill and have kids shortly after leaving, so the same should be true for men"? A vasectomy is not meant as a temporary birth control method. It's also less effective at preventing pregnancy than the pill, due to possible failures of the doctor and regenera…
/r/MensRights24/01/13 08:22 AM
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Funny enough, the guitarist in my band that was actually awesome was the one who wore a fedora at times. The one who was about as good as me never wore any headwear, never played "Wonderwall", and certainly didn't think it would get him laid. I'd argue that it probably did, though. At least, playing guitar in a band did, in a roundabout way. The awesome guitarist had his girlfriend crash his car while drunk. So... breaking even between the two I suppose.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 08:08 AM
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I occasionally wear my trilby too, mainly because it's the only hat I've ever found that I felt comfortable in. I put it on, it fit perfectly, and it didn't make me look weird. It wasn't until recently that I found out that it's "unacceptable" headwear because some men who are disliked wear them. I say to all that "fuck it" and wear what I like. Loose pants, big t-shirts with band logos, all that stuff. I dropped out of the "trying to please others' expectations of clothing" a while back. If I n…
/r/MensRights24/01/13 08:05 AM
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That depends on what the definition of "is" is.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 07:06 AM
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The overall chance of men being able to reverse their vasectomies, when averaged out, is about 50%. The chances are better the sooner it's reversed, but we're talking about a minimum three-year commitment, with a man being unable to reverse it if he decides to re-up. The chances of conceiving after the vasectomy is reversed is 75% within three years, and it drops from there down to 30% at 15 years. This means that men would sacrifice a 25% chance of being fathers for the lowest enlistment period…
/r/MensRights24/01/13 07:04 AM
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The answer's simple then: Raise the female requirements to be the same as men's.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 06:46 AM
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I was a scrawny 16-year old male. I weighed 147 pounds at 6'0 in high school. I had extremely low strength and terrible self-esteem. I joined a weight lifting class for a semester and spent a good three months working only somewhat hard to improve my physical capabilities. After three months of training that's nowhere near as rigorous as boot camp, I was able to lift about 220 pounds or more (on a good day) on bench press. I don't remember how much weight I gained, but it wasn't much, and I stil…
/r/MensRights24/01/13 06:41 AM
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I think the big question now is "would it be considered fair to require women in combat to use these IUDs?" I'm not asking if it actually would be fair, obviously, because I'm pretty sure that requiring troops to be fully combat-ready at all times is pretty fair, regardless of what they need to do to become so.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 06:31 AM
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Nail, head. I'm all for opening up combat positions to women in the military. I'm also for completely abolishing selective service for all people in the U.S., as to me, it's little more than slavery, or at least indentured servitude with no choice to enter it. That said, physical requirements should be the same across the board. And you know what? The current physical restrictions would certainly bar me from joining the military, especially in the infantry.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 06:21 AM
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Or getting pregnant by another, less well-off man and using your ability to generate revenue to take care of a child that isn't yours without your consent.
/r/MensRights23/01/13 09:01 AM
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Male strippers are part of the patriarchy too. They are there to force women into objectification and take away their hard-earned money. They know perfectly well what they're doing, and as soon as the women-oppressors in that filthy strip club are taken down, the resistance will take those shameless rapists called "male strippers" down. /s
/r/MensRights21/01/13 12:26 PM
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