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It's not just using homophobic language to complain about straight men, women will very clearly make the most homophobic statements about gay and bi men with the most obvious and explicit hate and nothing will happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 06:18 PM
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Only if I thought I were able to do it. If I were lacking the money and time I doubt the child would be better with me than with an adoptive family, but I would at least try.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:19 AM
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Savage men do rape, yes...in any civilized country where they get some education they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 01:57 AM
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For the same reason women say they want genuinely nice guys but end up dating assholes...because there's no relationship without some degree of physical attraction, and nicest people tend to be less physically attractive (here we could talk about what makes a person become nice and what makes a person become an asshole)...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 04:13 AM

Ugly in a subjective way, yes...I have seen many, but ugly in a conventional way...only when they date ugly girls too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 01:19 AM
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It does work in some cases, but said jerk should also be charming in other ways, like being good looking, for instance...just being a jerk is far from attractive. Being a jerk also works really well once she's into you, in a relationship or after a hook up, whatever...but being a jerk without being physically attractive, cool or fun? That doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 09:55 PM
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Depends on the woman...not every woman or even half of them prefer jerks. What doesn't work is being kind but utterly boring or ugly...kindness is really important but it's not the only thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:55 PM
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Attractive men fall in love too, you just have to no delude yourself into believing that a man who doesn't love you actually loved you. Regarding the last question, I dunno, most women get partners if they can so I have to guess there's something desirable about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 01:47 PM

It's legal and if they both want it then it's fine...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 12:05 PM
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Simple. If their flaws aren't equal or bigger than the flaws of those they reject, they are quite right when they complain. That said, a flaw is subjective too. A single mom can be single for many valid reasons, honestly, and while the kid diminishes her value in the market, it does not diminish her value as a human being and potentially amazing partner. A fat woman can be the nicest person on this planet, which might be irrelevant at certain ages but trust me, plenty of people end up hoping to …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:59 AM
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You know what the difference is...? Because it has been said a million times but it seems women tend to forget it all the time: women have plenty more options when it comes to dating. The man dating a horrible woman often can do that or be alone. The woman dating a horrible man often can choose a good and decent looking man too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 12:39 PM
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You say relationships are a different thing with pros and cons but I honestly don't see how being in a relationship with a man could be harder than being with a woman, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:13 AM
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A relationship without friends is the fastest way to loneliness, trust me... I don't entirely disagree with the premise because at some ages it's really difficult to keep a friendship but a man with friends (and frequent communication with them) shouldn't feel too lonely unless he obsseses with the idea of the romantic relationship (which can be understandable, though).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 02:26 AM
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The asshole who left is not worth discussing because he left, it's clear thar he's an AH. The post can be interesting since it adresses the fact that the mom might have been raising the son wrong, intentionally or not, due to other factors, like her theoretical selfishness or a wrong idea of positive masculinity. The way it's written sounds a bit malicious like everything here but it's still an interesting idea worth discussing, Imo. Do women raise their sons to be succesful in the dating market…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:46 PM
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Everyone involved is responsible, I'm not excluding the absent dad...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:56 PM
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That's never going to be (and shouldn't be) an individual choice. If a woman wants kid or simply allows the partner to cum inside (and allows unprotected sex) she's responsible of every consequence too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:15 PM
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No...he's responsible for his upbringing too, not just the absent father who clearly failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:08 PM
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Oh, wait...so they can simply chose to nut in them, just like that...? I have never been with a woman (who didn't want kids with me) telling me that nutting inside was up to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:04 PM
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They do indeed choose poorly, their pickiness is beyond irresponsible, they rarely are picky when it comes to personality and values, often they only are picky for other stuff 🤷 Men make their mistakes too...if you aren't 100% sure about your feelings, use contraceptives, don't get her pregned...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:00 PM
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To be fair it's both's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 06:58 PM
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To both parents, I would say... Though it's interesting how some parents (mine included) never gave any sort of advice regarding dating, relationships and genders. I think mothers don't prioritize the son's early sexual success, just personal success or becoming a potential responsible husband, at best. They project. A good husband studied hard and got a good, stable job, is not violent, and not much more, apparently... I wouldn't necessarily say they raise their sons the wrong way, but teaching…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 06:57 PM
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If the current partner wants it then yes, she would be devaluing him. I'm glad you understand this fair concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:14 AM
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You are trolling, but it actually applies. I know a guy who is into that shit and he specifically looks for that in a relationship, can't have one without that kind of kinky shit. So, as a kink, it would apply to the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:08 AM
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All kinds... If it's relatively infrequent I guess I could tolerate vanilla stuff when we are far from each other, but really, if you have a partner just don't watch porn or at least try to not do it frequently... Also, if you are into kinky shit that you know your partner wouldn't like, don't let her/him know. People nowadays talk about it like it's just funny harmless stuff for the relationship but I know plenty of women who stopped seeing someone because of his fetishes and kinks (kind of por…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:47 AM
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It's not that they don't do it, it's that they don't need it (to find a partner) so they don't do it as often.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 06:36 AM
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Jesuschrist...did you just say that men are attracted only to top % men? 😅 It's honestly offensive when people reject reality just to be right, you knew (and probably have always known) that men are physically attracted to a lot of women not just the top %.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 09:28 PM
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No, not really... The moment Chad stops texting back and the moment you can't get one to commit you end up crying, joining a pseudo cult, doing drugs or whatever crazy thing and feeling deeply unhappy 🤷 (probably just uploading around 30 daily images/texts about self love, not needing a man, and so on...) There's no FemChad, the female version is Stacy and she's not hooking up frequently. Why? Because men and women are different. Stacy is serial dating, not hooking up. Now, regarding the hypocri…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 09:17 PM
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Already very good answers here but I just want to add that your statement about lonely women isn't true, and you probably know it. Most women I know (over 30) are far from happy being single and far from not caring or ignoring men. I even know many who date non stop in the hopes that someone sticks. As other people pointed out, though, the main difference is that women at least 'chose' to be single (or to not settle) while lonely men feel like they don't even have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 09:02 PM
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Very wrong. That's not what society was telling men, it was certainly centered around personality and kindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 12:47 PM
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Agree but to be fair, when we men talk about women we tend to ignore the highly unattractive women too, they are mostly invisible too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:52 AM
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If I have to give an answer, based on vague stereotypes I'd say liberal women are more 'attractive' since they should hold more positive views on sex in general... But I don't think it's really a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:46 AM
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Exactly, accountability isn't oppression. That's something feminists should learn to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:43 AM
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I hope you understand that's exactly how feminist women make us feel...dehumanized.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:09 AM
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'emotionally exhausting...' that's an hilarious concept that I keep hearing from women on reddit. I mean, it's usually me listening for hours to whatever my gf or female friends need to express...but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:07 AM
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Attracted to youth= pedophile, apparently...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:57 AM
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That's the most sensible response and I'm surprised this isn't more common in this thread. I would never cut ties with a friend just for their political beliefs, that's almost entirely irrelevant to our friendship. If it was a relationship I'd still feel confident about challenging their beliefs with my example.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:52 AM
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Reasonable response but I don't think you understand some concepts (at least the red pilled version): hypergamy isn't exclusively based on money. If your friends married a more physically attractive man than they are or the 'best in general' among their options (based on status, money and looks) or dumped someone to get with those men...then it would prove hypergamy. Promiscuous past have some implications like the emotional baggage, red flags, unenthusiastic about a new partner...it isn't a rul…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:47 AM
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If she can make some jokes or at least understand mine it should be ok, but conversation is very important long term, is what a couple do the most, talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 06:04 PM
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Attractive, kind hearted and easy to get along with? That's more than enough, yeah. Pronhub+fast food sounds like you are talking about a man, though...but if despite the fast food she's in amazing shape then I guess it's ok, as long as her health is fine, otherwise I'd be worried for her. I date people to have fun, share life, connect...I don't need her to pay my stuff. There's a big issue for me here, though. Not the brightest bulb... Is she good at talking and does she make decent decissions?…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 03:54 PM
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Ok, not a 'basic' quality of life issue, but clearly a symptom of a worsened society for them, so they are right to complain (at least in a good manner). If for the same effort and similar qualities as previous generations your life is considerably worse, you can complain, Imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:33 PM
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If, with the same qualities and for the same effort, they are getting less than what was usual for many generations, they are right to complain (at least in a healthy manner).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:24 PM
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Asking for the basic quality of life people used to have isn't entitlement... Women married for many reasons not just survival, and yeah, being rude is wrong and a problem, we agree on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:30 PM
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I understand. I guess they get fooled. Some men and women are generally nice and empathetic towards everyone, though...those are the ideal partners, Imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 02:28 PM
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Takes some care of her body/looks, is emotionally stable and laughs at my silly jokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 11:57 AM
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I sometimes end up apologyzing for things SHE has done to me 🤷...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 11:45 AM
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Yeah it's frustrating for them. I don't think they care about looking more unattractive on the internet, they probably are smart enough to not do it on a date or to write it on their profiles. If you mean becoming more unattractive by lacking empathy, I'd agree, but unfortunately totally unempathetic men are being chosen as romantic partners by women, so if that's really a problem women should stop dating assholes and start dating good men...not necessarily ugly men, just those who are good inst…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 11:31 AM
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Doesn't sound like entitlement to me... The dating market kinda should indeed be easy if we apply (wrong) logic or look at past generations. For instance, if you think people date based on their looks match or sharing hobbies, then you will be dissapointed. If you are more or less like your father (who got married) and you expect yourself to achieve the same in 2024 you will be dissapointed. The dating market is super difficult, but it wasn't like this, and they know it, and of course they feel …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 11:23 AM
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Ah, sorry... Well, you can be happy without a man though I think you shouldn't give up if you think you would be happier with a decent man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 01:34 AM
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Exactly. Nature is soul crushingly unfair 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 01:09 AM
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Well...I understand what you mean. It's not that difficult to get a relationship for a woman, though, it gets way more difficult to find a lasting, healthy relationship. Sex can be the door, or the first step to get into that relationship...so there's that. The more effort she puts into herself and the relationship, the more chances it works, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 01:07 AM
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Come on...I'm almost 39, I know what you mean, but that was too much 🙈 Glad you found the decent man, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 01:00 AM
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I honestly can't believe that 99% of your options are the equivalent of that...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 12:30 AM
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Ironically, they often prefer the guys who do drugs...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 12:29 AM
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I wouldn't so freely cheat on my partner, honestly...not every man would, though of course it would be very tempting. People (men included) can feel guilt and can have values.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 12:24 AM
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It's because the market fucking sucks, simply put. Those guys know that most fat girls would be dateable enough if they weren't so fat. They also know they wouldn't be so fat if they had a harder time in the dating market, because currently they can find a low self esteem man to date who might even be a perfectly fine and caring man, while most average guys struggle with dating. Same for single moms, and a pletora of traumas associated with the guys dating life. Now, I know that sounded awful an…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 12:19 AM

It won't work...? It won't even happen. People will have sex with the same frequency.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 11:37 AM
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'deserve to have both like men do' because physically attractive women tend to have amazingly wonderful personalities...right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:47 PM
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Well, to be fair, even if she sees no future with her current partner she might still be emotionally attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:20 PM
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To be fair, a red pilled man is supposed to move on after the first rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:18 PM
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Sounds like (for whatever reason) she wasn't interested enough to make an effort. On the topic, though, man that takes the lead is code for man who will make most of the efforts (driving, finding a cool plan, introducing her to a new social circle and so on...) People advice avoiding 'feminists' and I agree to an extent, but a princess might be even worse... Best women to date are relatively balanced in that sense, and when they don't take the initiative at least they are reasonable and understa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:15 PM
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Agree, group pictures in the right context are a different thing, and everyone will draw the line in a different place.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 01:10 PM
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Well, no need for any sources, you know there are couples stuff and single people stuff, there always have been. Not every person who is single goes to clubs, but most people in the club will be single. The same way most adults watching a conventional Disney movie in the theatre are parents or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:37 AM
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Posting certain kind of selfies while being in a relationship is completely wrong, though. People on these threads pretend it's a possesive toxic man vs a poor girl trying to empower herself...it rarely is the case. Again, those pictures are useful when single and unneccessary while dating someone. It could very well be considered disrespectful or an attempt to attract a new partner. Big difference between pic after the hairdresser and pic of your ass in the gym 'never miss the training💪' text, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:33 AM
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No...I understand that not everyone is like that, but my point is that most single people are like that, so looking for unicorns isn't really a great idea... The few exceptions I know in my area are some religious women from conservative families. Personally I have never been interested on clubs or dating apps but I admit it's stuff I have done because I literally can't find many more ways of navigating current society (can meet potential partners in healthy environments and activities like hiki…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:21 AM
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Because they pursue those women DESPITE those traits (scarcity, sex drive, sexual attraction...) and because those traits or lifestyles have always been considered traits and lifestyles that you get rid of once you enter a relationship. Current woman I'm dating was going on a lot of Tinder dates before meeting me. Deleted the app when we started dating eventhough I didn't even suggest the idea. Did the same with other dating apps I didn't even know she had been using. Not to put her as the examp…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 12:52 AM

Shut down social media and dating apps. Problem solved. Impossible now, right? Well, let's educate both women and men so they become more humble and understand the other gender better? Everything would be pros, no cons.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 01:34 PM
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This is not wrong, I can definitely see how conventionally unattractive women's experiences often flat out suck. It's the average vs average where you see those privileges. Ugly guys have it worse, though, at least in the sense that they get used for other reasons when they get attention instead of used for sex (which I understand is not a good deal for women, but you still get some of the pseudo relationship stuff). Anyway, wouldn't really want to make a competition to see who have It worse... …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:04 PM
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In my case I NEED the physical attraction to have, in person, the chemistry and emotional interest, otherwise it would be just a friend. As for the preference for FWB/hook ups...not in my case, I prefer a girlfriend who is there to support me emotionally too and who values me in general. (And gets the same from me, obviously). Lots of men prefer this (LTR), but those men often can't get into a fulfilling relationship...and this is the part when I talk poorly about women...if you reject the not s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:39 AM
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To be fair, even when right (which is almost all the time) they tend to go to the extreme cases and also put it in the most pedantic way or with a boot camp flavour, when not low key bragging or overcompensating their own insecurities. It's easy to dislike the way they say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 02:32 PM
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Bullshit, sorry... Never had a big issue with that as I mostly do what you call 'basic work' but I call it bs for two simple reasons: the physically attractive and the relatively rich men get away with plenty of those icks. Women give a crap ton of them and the vast majority get away with it just by virtue of being women (believing in irrational shit, being moody as hell, acting crazy, communicating like they are allergic to honesty, chosing utterly wrong styles and clothes for certain events an…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 02:27 PM
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Troll post, I guess...but to explain (not justify) it: men aren't supposed to need looks, just money and be willing to work hard in whatever they are doing. Women's value was directly related to their looks (and still is despite feminism). To make it worse, men are supposed to not get hurt by words, women are supposed to be the sensitive gender. So men are shamed everywhere more often while women are only shamed nowadays on some of the internet. Let's not forget they are considered 'victims' or …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:50 PM
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No, though I would definitely not settle for less than a woman I really, really like in a healthy relationship, which is probably what happens to a lot of attractive men with a reputation of being players... I'm not saying there aren't players, lots of them, but women also give this reputation to men who just decided they weren't interested enough on the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 01:15 AM
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You are the first man that I hear claiming something like that... What would be the reason, though? The way she changes in the relationship once she feels 'superior'? Do you feel like you lose your purpose in the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 02:35 AM
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For making more money than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:34 PM
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What's the question then? The implication of op's post is that men feel bad about their partners out earning them. I believe that's not true, they love them the same, and apparently you agree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 04:28 AM
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Nothing wrong with high standards as long as you deserve it. Otherwise, it's ridiculous and has an impact on the sexual market... Obviously, you shouldn't be dating people that you don't like, but there's definitely a problem when you only like the people who will never commit to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 12:22 PM
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Yeah, sometimes, honestly...but still, if I put on a balance the dangers...feminism is so big nobody goes against it, so it doesn't seem to make a difference in that sense, might as wel vote left for their other politics. Edit: not American.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/24 12:19 PM
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True though not all feminists hate men and not all feminists share the same exact ideology (which is one of the things that make it so ridiculous). Most feminists don't hate men, they are just selfish and/or live of politics... Some of them are just confused since that's the narrarive they have been fed, and some certainly have had their own negative experiences with men and gender roles... I agree with your conclusion though, no man should support modern feminism. Equality is where the line sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 11:25 PM
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Would you love your woman less if she started making more money?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:41 AM
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Well...there are many too potential reasons why he did that, one of them being that he was an asshole 🤷 bullet dodged?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:28 AM
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Make no mistake, they go for the most narcissistic guys with the biggest egos and most childish brains...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:21 AM
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Very insecure man but think of why he did it...he basically realized he had no chance (or so he thought). Also, honestly, there's a chance he just wanted to leave for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:17 AM
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Now that you share it I have just remembered the woman I dated for 10 years dumped me for being a loser shortly after doing a course in her name and passing the exams too... 🤔😅 Ironically I then started making more money than her, though I never contacted her again so she doesn't know. Anyway, it's just funny in a fucked up way...just wish I learnt all the lessons when I was much, much younger, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:14 AM
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Can you girls please stop projecting...? A man is going to love you the same and perhaps even be happier for both if you suddenly start making more money. Keep it under wraps...? What do you mean, hide it to your partner so he can keep spending more and feeling like a provider and bread winner while you save that money for yourself?🤣 Hope I just misunderstood that expression...it would be damn awful to do that... Best advice I can give is stop pretending the most handsome Chads will commit to yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:06 AM
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Honestly, even if your partner is amazing you should just have it, just in case...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:00 AM
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I would love it but it sounds like a terrible idea based on my general experience... Women can appreciate it and many other options as long as they are fine with you and the relationship. If they stop being fine whatever the reasons, it will only add salt to the injury and make them resent you. I give here the same advice I give to women: avoid becoming dependant. You can be a stay at home mum/dad, but don't be one for longer than necessary. You don't want to be left with a huge hole in your cur…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:58 PM

You don't support it then, which is fine. Look, you can want protection for those women and a better life for them, also respect for them as people, but still not support sex work. Not supporting sex work is absolutely an option and not a bigoted ultra conservative mysogynist one if that's what worries you...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:20 PM

It's unpopular... apparently, if you don't support sex work then you don't support sex workers. That's not necessarily the case, but it's why so many people don't dare saying they don't support it. It's as fucking easy as saying you want the sex workers to be safe and to be offered different options, and that you want them to be respected as people despite their role, while being against the job itself. Surely this goes against sex workers' interests, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:16 PM

Treat others as you would like to be treated= fat women should date fat men too, they rarely do and never go for them as a preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:23 PM
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Lost myself too, I have 'powerful' extremely low in my list of qualities I appreciate in other people, so to asnwer the op question I had to consider the positive version of a very vague and wide trait: powerful... Hitler was powerful. Your selfish unempathetic boss is powerful. A muscular tall but brainless man is 'powerful'. A guy who inherited obscene amounts of money/assets could be powerful. A psychopath is powerful. Surely there must be a positive version of the word which would be basical…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:08 PM
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No...I'm affraid it was language related, which is particularly frustrating as I'm trying to improve my English but my reading comprehension clearly is lacking... I'm concerned about hypocrisy and treating others like I want to be treated, as long as those are concerned with hypocrisy and treating others like they would want to be treated too, if that helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:54 AM
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What if those terrorists were originally child soldiers and know no other world...? Anyway, I understand what you mean, I'm not disagreeing with anything in your comment. Glad you agree that the need of violence is very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:43 AM

The war between bridge trolls and blue haired cultists will never end...what should end are fat women using excuses, going for non fat guys and then crying about the result.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 10:52 AM

No empathy when she could just stop eating fucking cheesecake between meals and enjoy a happy romantic life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 10:40 AM
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Yes we all are AF and BB...but that's not what I'm questioning. I'm talking about consistency. Be the 'ruthless killer' when it's time to be the compassionate man and you will be seen and felt like you are clinically insane. Your case is very exceptional (and your discourse makes me wonder if your empathy can be global or is very limited to your circle, in which case you'd be reinforcing my point. Are you sure you have been killing 'terrorist' and not rebels with a family or people who had no ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 10:26 AM
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That's a cute story, hehe...well, the picture with the redfish sounds very funny, and being so upbeat always helps a lot, people would naturally want to spend time with you! I agree conventional beauty usually gets you in the door, and from there it's a matter of personality too. Also yes, most men wouldn't care that you have money, we appreciate more other things in a partner. I'm a teacher myself but I don't know if I'm still sweet, I think have become too cynical 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:03 AM
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I see you have a really traditional way of looking at things and judging people's nature which I don't really share, honestly, but that's perfectly fine. Doesn't sound like a bad man to me, anyway. Glad you two are happy together, seems really genuine 👏👏👏 I'll just add that secure men don't need to use violence because of their presence and nature(we agree there), but a great presence is not necessarily physical, it can be great in other ways, it can even be the case that it isn't great until st…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:24 PM
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Jesus christ...utter bullshit you think?🙈 I don't want to be rude so sorry for this, really, but your partner sounds like a grown kid...so basically he's prone to violence with those who wrong him in some minor way like being rude...? And idolizes you and those he care about, of course. Girl, be sure that if you ever break up (wish you the happiest relationship though) it's not cause you are cheating on him, and be sure you don't start dating anyone inmediately, because I might be wrong but your…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 09:43 PM
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What a terrible choice of word, though...the implication is that if he perceives (wrongly or right) that he has been offended or is somewhat in dange (he or his position in society or his job) he will react being dangerous in whatever way necessary. Doesn't sound like a kind, sensible man to me. 🤷 Anyway, women want assholes let them have them all...but I'm not interested on the female equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:08 PM
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It was used in the description of the man they want several times. Edit: 'benevolently dangerous'...what a concept... 'Let me be an asshole who provides for you and makes you dependant on me', basically...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:24 PM
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Then your partner is faking being bold and alpha or tender...and if he fails at being tender when needed but stays bold/alpha then he will seem a total asshole. Men aren't that moody or inconsistent. The kind man is kind most of the time, the bold man is bold most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:23 PM
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Why the heck would I want someone dominating or dangerous around...? Ok, in your example she's also 'caring', responsible and strong in a positive way. That's something most men would like and respect, nothing wrong with that. There's something very funny about the type of man they want. It's almost never going to be the good man who is strong, dominant and leading when necessary. People can't be everything and adapt perfectly to every situation. If you want the caring man with a soft side, he w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 01:54 PM
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I'm affraid I don't get your point... With that example of the blue haireds I just see their hypocrisy (they will still go for the dangerous dominant guy if possible) and a wrong generalization, not all men are trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:48 AM
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Therapy mostly consist on telling someone what he/she wants to hear... Unless the therapist is really good, of course. So no, it rarely works well for men, men want to solve their problems not to pretend they don't exist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/24 02:22 AM

Would love to disagree but often seem to be the only reason many otherwise perfectly fine men struggle to be succesful in the dating market and relationships. It doesn't help that in other areas of life it's proved to be a considerable disadvantage...I mean, quite literally, there are studies about it. However, I would also say that like it happens with every unfortunate trait, you have to compensate it... If you are short you need extra money, extra game, extra something...can't just be 'fine' …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 12:22 AM
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I don't care about that specifically but it shows a really fucked up aspect of women and the nature of attraction for them, the serial killers case just being a extreme one, of course (most women wouldn't even want to be near a serial killer). It's undeniable that women feel attracted to dangerous dominant men, that's what I don't like any bit. They complain about toxic masculinity but they only reinforce it by dating/fucking those stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 03:24 AM
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Well...you honestly aren't wrong, though the impact is not necessarily that bad. I mean, depends on how you do it and what that circle means to you it could be problematic but it shouldn't. Among mature adults, and I guess among young people too, there's nothing inherently wrong with a subtle approach and rejection. It won't necessarily lead to people thinking you are a creep or a loser, though depending on how mature they are, they might perceive you as less attractive, but in that case you are…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 04:18 AM
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Mainly due to the luck factor, which is vastly understimated here... I remember going out a night after months of barely leaving home due to an injury. That night I slept with a woman I met during dinner... Then a year later I'm looking my best, doing better in general, going out a lot and no't getting any women... Shyness/inhibition/introversion play super hard against your chances. Women tend to not initiate and to not give super clear signs, if you are high inhibition and have been educated t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:14 PM
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You are being too sarcastic but I can't disagree with you... I just want to add that women sometimes have very poor communication because they want to avoid something, and it might be avoid hurting you, yeah, but often it's more selfish and just want to avoid revealing their true nature. There's a massive global effort on that specific issue, they absolutely don't want to put in words the way they work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 12:30 AM

It's not necessarily me because eventhough it's not apparent, my health is quite poor. I'm educated, decent looking(just average Imo), considered kind, generous and sensible, also inteligent and funny (I question many of these things but it's what I have heard about me, I guess it depends on who you ask). What do those better men look like? Probably what I described in the previous paragraph but more finantially stable than I am and certainly with better health. Look, as long as they stop active…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 10:20 PM

Which better man? If you are talking about the ex, she didn't leave me for anyone...we just broke up (I didn't find her compatible with me, she didn't find me serious enough). If you mean a generic man, yeah, that's my point. What does he have that I don't? What do I have that some virgins or less romantically succesful guys don't? It's stupid, because it's mostly about luck. Meet the right person in the right moment and you might reproduce (if you want). Socialize a lot and highly increase the …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:01 PM

Dude...at times of my life where I have been useless I have been 'chosen' by some women (though I didn't want to reproduce), at times when I have been my best version they have gone for the genetically gifted asshole who looks like he has a really bad addiction to hard drugs. The fat naive motherfucker who inherited properties and a job at dad's company is not the 'worthy' or who mother nature has chosen to reproduce. 'Reactionary mysogynistic forces'...so if I want them to chose better (not nec…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:47 PM
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It's BS but even if it was true I couldn't fucking care less about positions for 0'000001% of the population... Besides, again, it's just BS, look at the richest people in the world and most important CEOs, some are women, women who had a good idea and worked really hard to make it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 01:48 AM
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From what I've heard they aren't very different from European women, and from what I have seen/heard, Asian women (and from other cultures) are just as toxic in their own way, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 01:26 AM
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Short relationships aren't necessarily bad or low quality eventhough it can feel that way when you are looking for something serious and stable. A woman in that situation could simply lower her shallow standards and focus more on the less shallow aspects (less attractive but more gentle and caring vs more attractive but less emotionally available, for instance). Of course I'm not implying they should date people they don't find even remotely attractive, though. I would agree if the only option i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 03:09 AM
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There's no way you believe that NO relationship/sex experience at all is just different and not worse than struggling with relationships. I get that both things can be hearthbreaking but that kind of loneliness is a very special kind of hell, and I can see it eventhough I sometimes get into relationships (rarely though). Would be awesome if women could admit some of their advantages/male disadvantages from time to time, honestly...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:12 PM
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Struggling to keep a boyfriend vs never ever even getting the chance of a relationship 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:09 PM
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'combat incel theories'...? Look, I'm not an incel technically speaking, have and have had girlfriends before, but you fight incel theories by proving them wrong, not by dating assholes who are just one inch taller, or by demonizing ugly men around for being 'creepy' when they attempt to do what every other man around is doing in the same exact way. You fight them by not dropping your husband when he loses the good job and gets a worse one... What are the incel theories? Are they mixing incels w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/24 01:49 PM
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We should. And no, they aren't doing any work if you ask me, they are exploiting people and taking advantage of a shitty system in decline morally and economically. Also, in case you were wondering, no I'm not religious. Edit: work should be honorable for the person doing it and appreciated by society when it isn't. Should be always reasonably well paid and not a harmful product or service to society. The porn industry doesn't just fill the demand of a product, it also creates or foster such dem…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 10:39 PM
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Funny how I know plenty of women who love being exclusively around men, a full room if possible, just to get all the attention and be the special snowflake around... Yeah, they are so terrified of men they often get absurdly drunk and walk back to home at 4pm like there's no other entertainment option... Women aren't nearly as scared of men as they pretend. They are attracted to some types, feel safe around many types too, or fairly neutral. Yeah, a big ugly weirdo staring at them in a dark alle…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/24 10:36 PM
1

Reddit truly is a whole different universe if you think that most men (or a significant %) are consuming OnlyFans or even paying for porn anywhere... Also, despite the hypocrisy, you can be against something that you consume, partially or even entirely against it. I smoke cigarettes and I'm against its whole industry but you won't see me quitting yet, unfortunately. I'm against sports being so important (apparently) to society and moving the money they move, but I do watch some from time to time…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 10:27 PM
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'Work'...making of the world a better place and supporting society, I guess...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 10:14 PM

Cannot really agree with your logic, honestly...you obviously just want to bash men and defend women... The point of that revenge is to make her feel used and manipulated too, to cause emotional pain too be it by getting dumped, disrespected, ashamed, whatever... It's very unlikely that he's being used for sex. He's most likely being used for dates, stability, emotional support and some sex too, of course... I don't know if that man could ever find happiness but I doubt a cheating woman can (ass…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:13 PM
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The cheater is the one who dodged a bullet? 😅 Anyway... it's about context, about emotions and feelings. His point (not mine) is that she might back to him, not for sex but to keep the reliable guy after cheating, just to find out that she's being treated as a girl that you just fuck without putting any care or love on anything else. That situation would confuse and hurt her, yes, and he will get something out of it (sex and a passive aggressive revenge). I'm explaining why he plans to do that, …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:09 PM
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Having sex with is worse than just a break up because of the downgrade... She goes from gf to fuckfriend (without the friend part), so she's getting fucked by someone who despises her and doesn't love her anymore, downgraded to a sex only woman... Only sex is ok, it's not degrading per se, but that's only if the initial deal or dynamic was only sex. If he started with dates, attention and a solid intention of being committed and now treats her as sex only material, that's degrading and a downgra…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:15 PM
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It's about the downgrade. Without the dating part, if it's only sex, it means you aren't worth any love, only the sex, which she might or might not enjoy but would be considered a selfish act from him, generally. The 'revenge' is the downgrade.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:03 PM
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What a terrible take on his intentions... The 'punishment' is to stop loving/caring, reducing her to sex only which isn't degrading in itself but the downgrade (from dates to just booty call) is. I think sex with women can be sometimes about degrading (there's a kink for that) or even inherently degrading since the man is supposed to dominate and be the active one though that's very debatable because for every position in bed where the man dominates there's a position where the woman dominates..…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:01 PM
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Yeah, I mean in that hypothetical scenario. If you move on too quickly from a break up or divorce, inmediately dating someone new, getting external validation from men you are sleeping with, going on first dates where the man tries to impress you and treats you like a queen and so on... If she had any flaws negatively influencing the outcome of her marriage (divorce) and totally worth fixing, she wouldn't realize it, she would be hearing how amazing she is by guys who just want to get under her …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 02:53 PM
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Sounds like she wouldn't learn anything from the experience...so she would likely make the same mistakes in her next relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 01:41 PM
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Of course you do...I'm just pointing out the eufemism. Do we really mature that much or is it just that our needs change?? Women seem to consistently date based on what they need and how the potential partner fits in what she has planned. This is why the young women don't care much about perfectly fine average guys and instead prefer the more social party guys, and suddenly when it's time to settle they prefer the nice stable guy. Men aren't very different, they always want the physically attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 11:51 AM
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It's a blessing that now they can do it online, honestly... I mean, I have never tried online with random people outside Tinder, I would feel super embarrashed if using any social media like IG, FB or TikTok, whatever...but if I know the woman (or is tinder) it's much easier than approaching in person. I have seen some of those threads/posts I think but honestly the women complaining seemed to know it was good bait, they get massive attention for posting something like that. I don't think they c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 09:39 AM
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It's pure narcissism... They wouldn't go to dance in the clubs if not for the men watching. They know they are attractive, they know they are attracting those men even if they don't approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 09:35 AM
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A lot guys did it for sure... that's how I experienced the late 90's and 00's too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 09:32 AM
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You like the same girls you liked a decade or more ago. You now have different needs, it's not semantics, you know the woman being hot is not 95% of the deciding factor cause you know she will need other qualities for what you want to do with your life now. Most men want the same kind of woman they always wanted but you were the party type it seems, so yeah, maybe you didn't give a fuck about their personalities, values or goals, now you do. I don't call that learning, growing up, maturing, disc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:25 AM
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Very exclusive advice for women... A man knows what he wants and who he is at 16, not at 30... The amount of supposed confusion among women is unbelievable. Your preferences change as you age, that's not learning who you are or what you like, that's you now having different needs that will be fulfilled by a different kind of man. At the age of 30+ they want a socially active and finantially stable responsible man who just isn't disgusting to be around. Doesn't matter if he has silly hobbies, no …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 01:09 AM
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Honestly, if you are succesfully doing the self improvement they will eventually come to you as long as you have a minimun of social life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 01:01 AM
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Even better, a woman who happens to have enough stability by herself (good job and so on) will still be looking for the 'fun to be around guy', so she won't have much interest on the nice guy. Then there's the over 30 market which is mostly single moms and lost causes... By that time, if you get a childless woman, she will basically want you to be 100% available for her and have the exact same goals she has, she won't even care much about your 'personality', will just care about compatibility (l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 12:56 AM
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Such bs...it's more likely to be the opposite due to entitlement unless we are talking about very young kids, when girls 'seem' to be quieter and better at following rules and at social skills. Teenagers for example I don't think the boys are nearly as selfish as the girls, and adults would be freakin obvious...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/24 08:15 PM
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Attractive is something that blue and red pillers would define differently if they had to describe the attractive man in more detail. Confident is one small step below being an asshole, most sensitive and empathetic people tend to not be super confident, and plenty of confident people are assholes. I'm not disagreeing with you though, I think it's common sense, but I think there's a lot of confusion nowadays about how an attractive and confident person might look and behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:35 PM
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That kinda is what the blue pill is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:31 PM
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What if he doesn't like those things though...what if he isn't into sports or doesn't need muscles just a relatively healthy body? You are essentially telling him to not be himself. Thought a blue pilled premise was being yourself. He might like less masculine fashion styles and having less serious/cold social behaviour or personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:30 PM

You really are understimating the capacity that shitty people have to associate with other shitty people. What percentage of men are shitty? Way too many fucking men are shitty. How many women would do what you are describing, though? How many women would force prime Brad Pitt or Chris Hemsworth to have sex with them? Perhaps even more than the men who would 'rape' if there were no consequences. We live in a time of moral decline. Many people would steal, become a dictatorship, rape, perhaps eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:15 PM
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They definitely are more bigoted, women do virtue signal a damn lot...they like looking like that, giving that impression, and I guess there's plenty of social pressure too to make them act like the empathetic and compassionate gender. The truth is, you can't fully empathize with someone struggling if you have not struggled too in at least a remotely similar way. Men know way better what not being accepted is. We used to be bigots but that's now on a very superficial level, we know well that thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:35 PM
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It's also related to economy. In developed countries people have children if they can afford it and if they can provide what they consider the right education and resources...and well, I guess it's cultural too, plenty of people nowadays don't really want children or marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 06:54 PM
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That was the model for centuries... it's certainly going to take a while, but it's also not really viable, a society needs new members. This is only sustainable because of inmigration from countries/cultures where marrying and having children is still the model.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 06:36 PM
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I can agree only to an extent, it's way more normalized than it would've been some decades ago, but that doesn't mean it isn't a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:48 AM
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I don't know if it's sexist but it surely is convenient for her and ill intentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 04:36 PM
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Well that's very strange as what you describe is basically women behaviour (I said no but it's a maybe and want you to try harder...). Anyway, he's mad cause he wants to get some action but he isn't getting any sex from you, that's why so many men are 'players' or liars...they know if they are honest they aren't getting much casual sex, only committed relationships (at best). Let's just accept that male and female sex drives are drastically different.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:24 PM
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I don't really have much experience on this subject, all I can say is that, apparently, from what I have heard and seen, bi men should probably not let a straight woman know they are bi...unless the guy is ridiculously attractive they tend to dislike them once they know. It also seems men have finally developed the empathy and respect to not have much of an issue with that, or maybe they are too affraid of showing themselves as homophobic, racist, and other politically incorrect things, while wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 12:51 AM
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Hypergamy. We are trading monogamy for hypergamy, and yeah, that's often midery for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 11:10 AM
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If he's not happy about his partner and is insecure it might happen, yeah... but I see it more like a consequence of the lack of experience. He thinks he can do better but he doesn't even know what is out there...what you describe is the kind of man who ends up dating a golddigger without even realizing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:45 PM
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Nah... I mean, sure, nobody should manipulate or lie to anyone, of course...but those guys now have success and little past experience, they want to have their fun to. I'd feel bad about those women, but they couldn't value that kind of man before when he actually had a better heart and some nice potential. Now they are suddenly attractive because a bit of a glow up physically (at best) and a lot of a glow up finantially speaking...? Let's be real, they probably aren't lying to these girls, they…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:40 PM
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You might mean the revenge motivation of 'living your best life' and self improvement... Some guys rejected or dumped in their 20's simply use those emotions to movitate themselves, sometimes leading to improvement. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger... If you don't end up alcoholic or depressed you might actually become much better due to the previous failures (focusing on career, gym, saving money...)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:35 PM
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I have more success in my 30's but that's probably because I spent my 20's with one girl, so I didn't know much about the dating market, honestly... What revenge? What are those narratives? If you mean those where the invisible man now gets the attention but those previously attractive women are now overweight single moms and invisible to him... that's not happening to me but it doesn't feel like it's intentional, it's not a revenge, it's a guy genuinely not feeling attraction or enough interest…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:30 PM

They just ask for the best, doesn't mean that's the only thing they could ever like.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:50 AM
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In the end it's just, once again, women lying about what they want (understandable I guess, since it would directly put them at risk of predators). Sure every woman is different and sure it depends on the specific partner, stage in life, last song she has listened to, last movie/series/book she has watched (50 shades of Dick, for example) and if she trusts you and genuinely feel attracted and comfortable... The fact that you can control yourself and be respectful won't necessarily play against y…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 08:27 AM

Ok...what when he ages a bit and loses hair and gets an uglier/older face? Sex will become bad then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:15 AM

Yeah, because it's natural, before and during marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:14 AM

I didn't say what they do or don't deserve, I just listed a bunch of potential issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:02 AM

I'm sorry to inform you that most men don't consider anal a 'extreme kink'. I know what you mean and sounds good, but realistically it also sounds like tons of duty sex and a tendency to manipulate through sex (denying it or allowing it according to rules instead of sex being just natural).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:00 AM

Wait...your sexual skills are based on his face being prettier or uglier and attraction...? So what when you aren't feeling very attracted for whatever reason other than looks, like a tough day at work, potential hygiene issues that you won't necessarily find out before sex, a micro pennis, a completely different preference for positions and sexual activities, spending too much time together and so on...? What if the niceness he has out of bed is nowhere to be found in bed? What if your sex driv…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:51 AM
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I understand some aspects of the fetish but I don't understand why would anyone think it's ok to say that, honestly... I of course defend men on many male issues and struggles we are facing but it's ashaming and even infuriating that some of us are such fucking dumb animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:55 PM
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I admit I'm a bit surprised with these debates lately... I guess it's just a cultural thing. For a western man (or at least for the vast majority of us) there's nothing to discuss there: we aren't marrying someone we have not been intimate with, it simply doesn't make any sense. Not only you don't know if you will be sexually compatible but it's hard to believe the woman would be attracted to you and genuinely like you when she doesn't even want sex with you, so why marry her. Anyway, as I said …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:52 PM
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Would you like one? With heels, some sort of wig and lots of make up, also an abdominals shaped undershirt and a girdle to look more stylized...?oh, and socks inside the trousers like a rockstar.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:06 PM
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Wtf...when was the last time you liked a guy in heels...?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:35 PM
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Reddit's censorship, yeah. Btw, to some extent it's true despite Mens rights spirit and rules. This sub is a shelter for any man, and some people here is too fed up at this point so they won't be saying exactly nice things about women here or anywhere. It's sad that anyone could think that isolating and shaming them would be helpful.
/r/MensRights01/08/24 04:06 PM
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All the time. The nature of love is that if someone feels madly in love with you, you problably are the prize and not the other person, at least from SMV perspective. Life is more complex though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:56 PM

Well, agree, but that's also why they should have not banned certain subs. Now everything is mixed in the same spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:41 AM
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Oh that's my mother's favourite book and movie... Well, whether we agree or not with their life styles, old generations had practical advice, based on evidence and experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:31 AM

Sorry, that's not what I was implying, I'm talking about genuine and sincere love/attraction. If a good man is who you admire, respect and feel attracted to now that's perfect. Heck, even the opposite is right as long as you are genuine... If you resent your good partner and want an asshole because that's what you like then go ahead and stick to that kind of man. It's just that men are a bit scared by the idea of women using them and not genuinely loving them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:11 AM

Oh, sure, I didn't know we were talking about American men trying to purchase a wife in traditional countries...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:05 AM

Wow...that sounds dystopian 😅 a simple internet search and you have access to such personal information?! Well, I guess we just want women to like us, not our money, but that's reasonable and acceptable if it was always the case. If you go from dating the assholes to dating the good providers, though... that's what we don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:02 AM

That sounds really niche... I mean, in some countries might make sense, in other countries asking for those papers honestly sound a bit too crazy. I guess it's very different in Russia. If it happened to your 4 sisters then I understand why you won't trust them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:52 AM

So your friend doesn't feel attracted to him and there's no passion there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:47 AM

At this point it includes way too many things...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:45 AM

That's just being hurt for rejection, not being mad for the modus operandi you are describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:44 AM

There's a fucking lot of room between fucking any player in the first date and making someone wait until marriage...why the hell would you wait until marriage to know if you are sexually compatible?? Let's accept that sex is a very important part of men's needs. Men have to consider their needs too. The equivalent is a man refusing to talk to a woman about his job, career, assets and money before marriage, in the most literal sense. You won't know if I'm a bartender, unemployed or a CEO until we…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:42 AM
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Would inmediately make you worry about something else because that's how the brain works for many of us, but that else would probably be something much easier to get for the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:28 AM

Aha...so again, why aren't women asking to do the same as men there? It's still a job. Btw, feminism, drafts and wars aren't exclusive to the US...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:00 AM
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Men don't have those ridiculously effective tool, it would make the opposite effect. Noticeable make up, heels, showing skin with a slightly overweight body...that only makes it worse for a man. The equivalent is stylish clothes, a recent good hair cut, or expensive stuff. Oh, and hitting the gym like there's no other thing in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:56 AM

It's sometimes ridiculously easy...they even use external aesthetic indicators to tell you the kind of person they might be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:42 AM

Change men for women and sex for money and it makes the same sense. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:54 AM

Is it encouraged enough...? I mean, cheating is seen as wrong (though not universally, it's now very easily justified and often even promoted...) but divorcing/breaking up for shallow or weak reasons is not seen as wrong when the standards are so low that nothing seems shallow or weak enough as a reason to divorce. All the opposite, divorce and breaking up are now encouraged very freely and commonly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:06 AM

Who cares...? I want everyone equally to not die in combat but a potential invasor won't ask me what I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:00 AM

How is that not advancing towards equality...? Someone has to fight in wars as long as there are wars, and trust me, if a neighbour country decides to nuke your town and invade the territory to pillage everything and attempt to impose their own government there's gonna be a war, you just can't tell them 'no no no... that's not the right way of solving a problem, let's just talk it out' cause that won't work. So again, assuming a war can be unavoidable, when it's time to defend yourself, how is w…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:58 PM

I agree it's not appreciated, just parenthood in general. Even worse, there's a trend of people just hating on kids as members of society. 'kids are the future' is not a joke or a pointless metaphore. It's pretty literal. There's no future society without kids, there's no young doctors, nurses, scientists and workers in general without kids. Now...a few interesting points for discussion: Women could afford being mothers when monogamy and stable marriages were encouraged and even indirectly enfor…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:48 PM

There's a difference between forcing and encouraging. People in general (not just women) were encouraged to be monogamous and to have patience with their partners. Among the reasons, you didn't have an efficient dating app in a portable device that you could fit in your pockets, so you'd think twice before dumping your partner for the dumbest reason. Loyal and stable people were considered more trust worthy and reliable, which let's be honest, makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:21 PM

This can be witnessed as early as highschool where most women go for the 'top' 20% (though those aren't necessarily top, mostly a certain type or style but still, usually more physically attractive and socially succesful than the others). I have seen it and also experienced it myself... It's what it is, but it doesn't necessarily mean that the remaining 80% become totally invisible or are doomed. Average and even slightly ugly guys can find a partner too. The 20/80 thing is quite logical: most a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:13 PM
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Not controversial or unpopular, it's well known and researched... Fuck, I was a very attractive boy in my early teen years and developed a massive depression for years after going from being hitted on pretty much daily by literally every average and even beautiful girl to becoming invisible. As a man I don't think it's totally ego driven, we really, really like pretty girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:23 PM

Not necessarily exclusive but the main trait was insanity and explains what he did a lot better. A sane person doesn't do that no matter how entitled he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:03 AM

That actually makes sense, though I don't think enough men would pay prostitutes. (Legalizing and normalizing aren't the same...maybe if it was more normalized it could have that kind of impact).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:58 AM

Not entitlement, that guy was insane, come on...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:51 AM

I really hope those rare cases weren't just sexually frustrated... Majority of incels want a partner not just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:50 AM

I don't see how a prostitute would alleviate anyone's loneliness...I also don't think men would stop playing anyone, I know a few guys who pay for that and still play women... Also, not every man is fine with paying for sex (though most of us end up 'paying' one way or another but that's different). I agree it should be legalized and regulated, though. They would pay taxes and be safer, ideally.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:48 AM

Yeah but as I said, even if not golddigging. Most women want their partner to finantially contribute the same they do or to still improve their lifestyle (for their kids too), so if a guy has an amazing house in the beach that's still better than the guy not having it... she's still going to enjoy that house even if it isn't hers, right? Also best schools and college for the kids, best health insurance, safer and more reliable car, quality food/groceries (why would the guy with money buy the low…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:38 PM

It happens for a variety of reasons that have already been mentioned, but I'd like to point out that women check out of the relationship before breaking up and usually have the next guy lined up, so they basically don't spend much time being single in the market unless it's a 'hoe phase', where most of them mostly are short term serial dating to find what she wants rather than really just hooking up for the sake of hooking up. Men, on the other hand, can spend a very long time single between rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:57 PM
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Those are different topics, Imo... Perhaps the effect of social media and dating apps on women should start to be taken more seriously, I see your point and the similarity but I don't think the effects are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:03 PM
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Well, I became much more rimantically succesful in my 30's and I get what you mean but normally you'd want a quiet and nice life at that point with a good partner, not to be fucking scorts and Instagram 'models'... Anyway, if a guy wants to do that it's his business. I don't think a 'hoe phase' makes any sense for both women and men unless it's just to try to discover your smv...why would you go through the hoe phase if you found a good enough partner? Are we pretending the young instagramers an…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:51 PM

1, 5, 4, 3, 2... I don't care about the money she makes or her social status but I don't like that she's overweight and sees no reason to change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:04 AM
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I'm not even talking about narcissism or stereotypes about pretty/ugly...I'm talking about motivations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:40 PM
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Because it's easier to be nice when you aren't worried about the relationship working or not working...those attractive guys who treat you particularly well for a Summer and then dissapear or suddenly ghost you (once they have finally met someone they like enough) only want to seduce you and make you feel comfortable for the sex, that's all they want. Please note that I'm not implying that an unattractive asshole treating you poorly would be right. What I mean is that the less attractive guy mig…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:13 PM
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Sure, attractive people tend to obsses about keeping their attractive image.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:02 PM
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Exactly...he wants something serious with you: a partner he can be proud of. The attractive guy instead doesn't even show you to his friends/family and doesn't want you to introduce him to yours 🤷 Of course there are toxic and healthy ways of doing this and I think that if you aren't 'good enough' for someone then you shouldn't be with that person, but it's the reason they seem more toxic, they actually want you to put effort and to become your best version so they can have a serious relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:01 PM
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Why then?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:16 PM
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Who's fault? Mine or no one's fault if I'm struggling to orgasm...however, why is she stopping? Am I not supposed to keep touching her if I'm done and she isn't? She should do the same...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:30 AM
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Look...you know why that happens? It's because the attractive guy doesn't take you seriously, while the unattractive guy would want a serious relationship with you so he wants you to improve, to work on yourself. (And he might be supportive or just an asshole about it).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:44 AM
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Attractive people have no reason to be rude, they generally are treated really well and accepted at least among grown up adults. Unattractive people experience a very different life in that sense and certainly develop other traits. They tend to be more humble than attractive people, but they can also develop worse traits due to frustration, social isolation, envy/jelousy, and so on...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:39 AM
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But it has looks, height and n-count all over the post...🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:18 AM
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So it's thapeutic...well, it kinda made me value my relatively single life a bit more, honestly. What a bunch of walking nightmares are those women from the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:17 AM
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Kinda, honestly, though at some point they all realize it's better to be miserable alone than being with someone who will 100% make you extra miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:10 AM
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What kind of fucking nightmare written in black pill language is this shit... Ohh...I see, it's irony...at first I thought it was a serious thread. Dude, it's amazing that some of those examples could be real. Edit: Alexandra could be the best if you find a way of avoiding whatever STDs she has. Perhaps that shut in girl with hygiene problems but decent potential if you are allowed to help her and make her work on herself without being considered an evil manipulative cunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:09 AM
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Sure 👍 Just take those comments as a red flag, honestly... If the single parent is genuinely interested on the potential partner for the right reasons, then it's almost as good as childless partner for different reasons. Personally, I really like kids and work with them (teacher) so that's perhaps a plus for me but I think I would prefer the childless partner since I'm childless myself (so it would feel more equal and also could have my own, though I'm getting too old for that...) and for casual…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 09:35 PM
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I honestly hate how they actively chose the fucking worst kind of men to associate with (specially sexually/romantically) and it's, somehow, not only not their fault too but also your fault...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:35 PM
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It's very sexist indeed and in this case, assuming a woman wouldn't be dangerous in any way would be wrong too... As a school teacher myself I find it funny, the vast majority of male teachers I have known would never hurt a kid and instead would go out of their way to ensure that the kid is safe and in a healthy environment. Most female teachers too though some of them are honestly way too childish and toxic towards kids but still of course wouldn't physically hurt them. Based on stats, though.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:30 PM
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Men tend to be hornier and more interested on casual sex indeed but that wouldn't justify unethical behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:20 PM
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I agree with some of the generalizations but the title shouldn't be worded that way, honestly, let people date whoever they want... And single parents aren't always the worst, that's more complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:10 PM
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Depends, they become more desperate which translates as both extremes: high effort into getting a new decent partner / low effort into getting just any partner (desperation).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:08 PM
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Everyone is the cuck now, honestly...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:06 PM
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It's a woman, so... It's interesting how they just don't conceive male sexuality, that sex isn't remotely worth it without a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:59 PM
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Are only good for sex doesn't really mean that they are good for sex, it means they aren't good for a relationship. Also, single moms are (sometimes) desperate, so they try hard in bed, or do it for whatever psychological reason like spitting on the ex. You have to understand what they say from the perspective of someone who would actually go for sex whenever there's a chance (men, at least most of them).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:57 PM
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Depends on stage in life and experiences, also life style but to give a number, 10 would seem the limit to me. Youngest I have dated was 6 years younger (32 and 26) and wasn't a problem at all. Now it's 5 younger (38 and 33) and again it's not a problem at all. What's more of a problem is my health after an accident and serious injury, even people my own age find me too old 🙈 but I also find people who's interested so it's fine in that sense. Oldest I have dated was 3 years older than me, again …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 12:29 AM
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Well I had a neighbour who was a doctor...and a wifebeater 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:30 AM
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Feminism does actively ask for benefits and privileges (which are described as compensations for supposed disadvantages). An example of this is how they ask for representation in higher paid fields and studies. The governments provide the companies with tax reductions, money or preferences to work for the state when they hire women. In my country for instance they have to have at least 40% of female employees when the company has 100 or more employees. The opposite isn't a thing: 100% of the emp…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:21 PM
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Their standard mood might seem 'bad mood' for you, but we are emotionally consistent in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:42 PM
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God...what did I read, is this intentionally awful and unrealistic...? Ok, Mary: 50$ a month is nothing unless you are still studying. Low sex drive means what, once a week? Twice? You won't have sex until you marry her... that's absurd, you won't even know if you enjoy sex with her until you marry her? Susan: when was the last time you met someone addicted to a substance (like weed) who did it once a week, and how would that be a problem...? Also, addicted to social media and slept with a numbe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:35 PM
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It's not revenge, that's just one of the supposed reasons for its existence but women were oppressed almost as much as men, just in a different way. Society made sure to demand what it needed from both women and men. The end goal of feminism is greed. They already have a lot and will forever ask for more, creating fake arguments if needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:12 PM
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Before answering the main question I have to tell you that you don't need money to go from fat to fit and to lookmax to a reasonable degree... Anyway, I dated a 30yo virging when I was 34. She wasn't ugly or unattractive at all initially but I soon started finding out why she had been so unlucky. She had some degree of autism/asperger or something like that and was like 800% more cringe than anything I had experienced before. Seems she could 'mask' that thing long enough to at least get asked ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 11:11 AM

But dude, there were a few self proclaimed incels school shotters among how many...? Millions of incels? What I have read about Elliot Rodgers in incel communities is that he had no reason to be the way he was and that he doesn't represent them. Most of them are harmless sensitive guys feeling lonely and hopeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:34 AM

That's only for some of them, but many definitely have their experiences with bullying and double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:07 AM

You can't be serious...they are ignored or bullied and double standards are applied not just in dating but in general. They aren't stupid, you can't tell them all their struggles are with dating. I'm not saying they don't do anything wrong, I'm telling you non incels do something wrong to them for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:04 AM

Why is the looks thing pointless? Anyway, they are not a culture or community, by definition it's just an involuntarily celibate which might or might not have a lot of common with other people in the same situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:37 AM
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Would you still be trying to find a partner even if she isn't pretty? I'd say it's fine then, if that's unfortunately the only way you can experience sex with another person then go ahead...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:21 AM
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I used to think it was really wrong... now I'm older and it would just disgust me to do it because there would be no genuine attraction, love or healthy motivation. I used to think it reinforces prostitution which often is wrong but the reality is that many women actually prefer doing that rather than working a shitty job (depending on how much money they make), with just one customer, at least in my country, they make around the same money an average job provides in several hours or a day. So w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:16 AM
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Do it then, go live in a luxury location with a good partner... But are you sure? Not being sarcastic here. Are you sure you can do that and make it work? Is your partner going to be happy enough for long enough with you? What's a good partner there...is he attractive, makes you feel attractive and valued in general, makes you happy...? Sure, if that's what a woman can have then she should go for it but I'm going to be a bit skeptical about the abundance and availability of relatively rich, hand…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:14 AM
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Why not? Your partner can make less money but be supportive and funny, for instance. It doesn't need to be someone better than you or a net positive to your life for non emotional aspects. At least that's how a man would see it...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 11:10 PM
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From a male perspective, when it comes to values they might be, yeah...but my point is that men don't really have a problem with that, they have a problem with the problem it causes...because women hate it when they make more money than the man since it seems we are here only to improve their lives and not to share experiences, support and a connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:36 PM
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Wonder why they wouldn't like it...?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 11:36 AM
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Literally all men can handle a woman making more...it's the woman who seem to not be able to handle making more than her partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:20 AM
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That's still extremely shallow as logical as you want to put it. The guy might still be making money even if it's less money and have many other qualities. I wouldn't value a luxury location more than a good partner in my life but well...I'm a man. Edit: btw some people without diplomas or anything are very intelectual while plenty of people with the highest studies are actually freaking dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:18 AM
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No, there are very few instances where a man can be considered a rape victim, it's not contemplated by the law and society in general. You would need super clear evidence and some special drama behind it, like kids being affected, guy got drugged, wife is devastated, whatever... You can't just claim you have been raped as a man and much less claim you have been raped cause you were drunk, police/courts will at best laugh, they might even get angry at you for your blatant trolling and wasting the…
/r/MensRights26/06/24 11:45 PM
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Feminism will help no one in a first world democratic country, not even the women... Some of the stuff feminism is against can only be fixed by women chosing to not reinforce that stuff. I'm talking about bad boys for instance, to put it lightly, or what they call toxic masculinity (which is only toxic when they want). Feminism was very important and can still be really important in some places, but it's completely irrelevant and harmful everywhere else. It's also creating a silent opposite move…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:40 PM
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I don't really expect any luck, honestly, though I'd like a cute and good hearted life long partner and a pet (ideally a kid but I might be too old and with health issues now, and I already work with kids so they are part of my life). The irony is that I already had that in the past and for many years, but I fucked up by not working on the relationship hard enough while she did it. After that my longest relationship has been 4 fucking months so...not very hopeful anymore lol...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:33 AM
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Not so much but there's certainly some hypocrisy about it, just like how 80% men are invisible, a big % of women are relatively invisible too. Men can definitely fall in love very easily with a 5 or 6 though (personality included), and many won't feel like they are settling. Plenty of men will bed a 4 or even lower but not that many will want the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:55 AM
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Not men in general but bitter men who have been hurt badly or experiencing non voluntary loneliness for most of their lives. Doesn't really make it right, though, they shouldn't react like that. Btw, I know many relatively happy single over 30 women (I'm 38 myself) but if I'm honest most of them (and most men too) are actually miserable about it and absolutely want a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:37 AM

Well, it would fix the market quite a lot. Men would be pickier and have relationships with women in their leagues. Women wouldn't be tricked as often into pseudo relationships (though I don't want to make it sound like that's men's fault exclusively).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:12 AM
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Without a f*cking second of hesitation, yes... Women struggles dating are caused simply by believing the players above their league might want to seriously date them. I'd just be realistic and pick among 300000 realistic but good options instead of hoping Chad committed. Or just hook up with a different Chad every day 🤷 much struggling... Also, the risks are sometimes the same and sometimes different...please let's stop pretending every man out there is a wife beater or a rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 10:11 PM
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A very irresponsible and unstable women almost got me crippled, needed surgery, but whatever...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 10:07 PM
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There's something which kinda helps and it's the fact that whether we want to admit it or not, the same woman might like you enough in a different moment or a similar woman to the one who rejected you might like you. Then there are also the reasons you don't necessarily agree with or share: 'he's a loser'. That's subjective and not as important for everyone. 'he's too short'. Again, something all women care about to some but not the same extent, plenty of women are fine with dating someone the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 09:42 PM
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Desperation can actually help a lot landing the wrong relationship or hook up, yeah... The advice is to keep higher standards and because confidence (and seeming to have high standards) is attractive, but ironically sending the signal that you are not succesful, confident or picky might actually help, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:12 PM
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Well, my parents and also grandparents have been together all their lives, cero abuse or violence. Grandpa could work and support grandma to be a housewife, she prefered that too. My other grandma choose to work, and that was fine too. They all could affort a house, car, kids and a relatively humble holidays. Sounds good to me, but what was relationship specific: no cheating nearly as often, respect, working as team, no using people (as often), stability...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:51 PM
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You can't. It's very simple. The amount of vulnerability you can afford is proportional to how much above her you are in the dating market so to say... She will still see you like a good catch and use your vulnerability to support you and become more important to you. If she doesn't see you as the better catch (better than her or better than her other options) she will like you less for whatever your vulnerabilities reveal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:39 PM
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By pure logic, finding a compatible partner would be even harder simply because you'd be attracting less potential partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:49 AM
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Some do, that's true, though many men do it too, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 01:13 PM
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Well if it's instinctual it's not something to call you bigoted...you will get out of that stage once you start meeting more good men and having closer relationships with them (and boyfriends too, I guess, assuming they are good bf).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:43 AM
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I don't 'think' it, I know it well. To be fair, they do a bit more than what people think. They have to put themselves out there in social media or social settings and then answer the messages but yeah, that's everything, though they put effort on their profiles and how they dress/make up/hair... Many women approach men, ask them out if necessary when they feel there's some interest but the guy is shy. They don't need it though.
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/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 10:30 AM

/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 10:24 AM
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Priorities. Those abusers have other stuff they like way more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:31 PM

Some of them care and some don't, but that's not an indicator of positive qualities at all. I'm a teacher and know many teachers, for instance. You'd say they have to be caring and empathetic to work with children but at least half of them hate their job and can't stand kids or teenagers... The construction worker with no career and other blue collar proffesionals can easily have a more humble attitude and empathy. There's no rule, but if there's something close to a rule I have found out it is …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:14 PM

Physicians in particular tend to be the least empathetic people of all the high status proffesions... They usually chose that (difficult) career for money and status not to help anyone. They don't have to be good listeners but the opposite, the ability of not giving a crap, because often they won't even have the resources to help everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:10 PM
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Disciplined and capable yes. They have higher ambition and sometimes is their way of coping with stuff they were lacking (see some of the workaholics not even knowing what to do with the money and not having a social/family life). Social success is not necessarily an indicator of positive character traits, not in our current society, at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:44 AM
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I didn't know being a psychopath or a narcisist was considered a positive character trait...I mean, that's most of what you find at the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:34 AM
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For a much younger person yes, depending on the day (good sleep, clothes...) but for a teenager...? No way. My opinion is they are delusional 😅 I have some female friends in their late 30's who actually would pass for 20something but that's it, and it's vey rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:59 PM

Might be true, honestly. I think women are a bit more careful online with how they are perceived while some men just completely remove the filter and unleash those emotions... In real life not many women or men seem to be hating anyone even if they sometimes express some frustration, so it's difficult to know what's the real extent of that 'hate'.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:55 PM
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But women often date up...don't they? That's when you end up being used by a player. (Talking about standards)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:34 AM
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The latter. It's about motivation. Men want to have a home and to form a family too but not with someone 'lesser' as you put it. It's an awful way to see it but it's what it is. The feelings are mostly based on attraction, at least initially.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 09:23 PM
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Like women, men don't want to settle down, and men value looks the most (though of course personality matters). If he's motivated enough about the woman he will want the same things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:36 PM
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If he's in a similar league looks wise it's most likely a very safe option, honestly. I understand they have it hard in other ways though, yes...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:20 PM
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Nah...give it time, dude, lots of fucking weird and unpopular things are now normalized enough. This one will be super cringe for 'cool' people but so widespread it will be normalized relatively quickly. What porn is lacking, mostly, is the emotional part. If you can have the porn + the romance (in a limited way, of course) all in one, though... I don't think most men will be happy with that because they will feel like massive losers and loners, but some will and as it gets more popular and norm…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:06 PM
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Oh I know it's absolutely happening soon, and I find it super disfunctional and sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:00 PM
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That's almost like...the number or women who approached me over 30 years 🤔 Seriously not to start the crying but it's such a different universe depending on gender I honestly don't see how anyone could claim women have it hard with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 07:57 PM
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I used yo avoid rejection mainly cause my feelings not to avoid embarrashment, can't say I have seen that happening much from women or men...most people tend to be empathetic enough, rejection is already bad without embarrashing anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 07:51 PM
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Depends on your age but generally it has always been a way. If you are asking if that's the only reason or main reason they go to clubs...well, depends on the person, I have known plenty of guys who did it 100% for that reason. Regarding forbidding it to a partner, it's either dumb or smart depending on how you look at it but a happy partner won't cheat on you and if the partner is looking to meet someone better or to cheat on you then why would you prevent it...? That person doesn't value you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 07:48 PM
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It honestly depends on who is more interested... When a woman is very into a guy she's definitely doing all what she's asked, expected, and more than that... It wouldn't be fair to claim they don't. A woman not putting enough effort and being very demanding is a massive red flag about that relationship. It's usually determined by early dynamics and attraction disparity. That's why the best relationships happen when both are very genuinely attracted and like the partner, and not when she's just s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 04:37 PM

It has been a funny meme for a while but just in case and to be clear, almost not a single woman on this planet would chose the bear and if anyone would that only means she's insane. Also, I don't think even as statement most of them chose the bear, it's just the feminist echo chambers, as you said, as a statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 03:02 PM
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A gf like that ruined my life with her irresponsibilities, quite literally (accident)... You are married and have children so I won't tell you what to do... I'm just very sorry you are going through that.
/r/MensRights14/05/24 12:29 AM
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Who the hell would chose the bear...I mean, imagine you are alone in a forest with a hot woman 🤔 Joke, obviously. Yes, it's all absurd... hating on men that way will only get women into trouble and not because of men or bears... Being irrational and making poor decissions is just dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:30 AM
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Well...yes, besides some instincts and physiological stuff nothing innate can define what's a social construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 12:32 AM
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What would innately femenine/masculine other than genitalia and physiology, though? By your logic nothing a person can do is masculine or femenine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 12:27 AM
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It totally is conventionally femenine, which doesn't mean you should stop doing it if that's something you like, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 12:22 AM
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'Just be yourself and be honest', that way it's easier for her to compare you to the thousand other options and decide you are not what she wants. Later you will see she's dating someone far from perfect who at least managed to hide the flaws well enough for a while until she developed feelings 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 10:36 PM
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Because I don't like her enough, and it's the same reason women won't commit. And since I don't like wasting anyone's time I'm done with dating until I find someone I like enough, if I'm lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 03:40 PM
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You know she's lying when she says she doesn't care, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 03:39 PM
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Depends... Narcisists are also the quickest to label other people as narcissists. Narcissism would be most of the old school red pill advice advice on dating, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 03:31 PM
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Because it depends on what you mean with 'good'. If 'good' self esteem is being demanding and constantly implying you are superior, for instance, that's not good self esteem, that's narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 03:29 PM
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No, we do it to ourselves. Plenty of men end up dating almost anyone just to not be alone and have a sex life, plenty of men hook up with literally anyone.
/r/MensRights08/05/24 02:11 PM
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Good self esteem=/=narcissistic behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:09 PM
1

How do I feel about pick Mes? Well, I almost have yet to meet a girl who isn't a 'pick me' for the guy she truly likes, just how men become simps for the girls they like. It's a bit cringe if you don't like her and cute if you like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:34 PM
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Thank you, man 👍 wish you luck too!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 02:49 AM
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38 here and, well, I had the chance, some chances, but wasted all of them and now I'm starting to feel like I don't really care anymore... If you want some hope, I'm sure that if you look nice or at least have an easy going and kind personality and you go for certain type of men you could still get that. Players won't marry you and won't be good fathers, even worse if they do because that almost always ends bad. Married with a family isn't necessarily the only (or even the best) road to happines…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:46 AM
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Depends. First I'd have to ask her what does feminism means to her... If it means that every shitty decission SHE made turned out poor because some mysterious patriarchy then nope, because I'm done dating irresponsible women. If it means she should be acting like she's single despite being in a relationship then again nope. Other than that, it shouldn't be a problem...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:47 AM
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Women of all ages in general do actively try to date the men they like, I mean, they even humilliate themselves for those...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:39 PM

It's social media/smartphones what ruined it, for decades before, they were chosing normal men and being very happy with that. Now they seem unhappier than ever just like how men are unhappier.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:57 PM
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Depends, because there are different reasons for that and also extremely different kind of incels, but overall they often are dealing with some serious problems (usually mental illnesses) and in need of help, and I'm not talking about therapy but also, mostly, human compassion and empathy. I remember as a teenager I wasn't having many sexual experiences and, eventhough most of the problem was in my head and I actually had options, it felt truly awful... couldn't be more unhappy. I don't blame wo…
/r/MensRights03/05/24 01:53 AM
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Damn it, man...I was so attracted to this girl, thought I had finally found the right one but it turns out she has a good education and career and I'm more into iliterate broke unhappy with their career kind of girls because otherwise I get too intimidated 🤷 Ok... now more of a serious answer. It would be written by a woman cause they value the partner's career and education a lot more so they actually feel intimidated sometimes when approaching succesful men. Also, career oriented usually means…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 05:35 PM
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Instead of wasting energy try dating someone compatible enough...dunno, just a crazy theory.
/r/MensRights17/04/24 01:50 AM
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If you date someone 10 years younger just don't rush into having kids and be sure she's doing what she truly wants to do considering her future too (career, kids/no kids). Other than that, just don't worry and do whatever makes you happy, society and internet aren't the same thing, people don't really go crazy about certain age gaps. I'd recommend a late 20's if possible, early 20's she's going to be extremely inmature even if she doesn't seem to be.
/r/MensRights12/04/24 08:33 AM
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Well, it's just something 'funny' they say but yeah, this is no longer funny in 2024.
/r/MensRights11/04/24 08:04 PM

They won't acknowledge anything that could even remotely make them look like they have some power or privilege, though to be fair there are plenty of idiots here justifyng their cheating and shit with 'my testosterone/high libido curse'...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:42 PM
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To be fair, if you aren't very attractive it's better to at least be genuinely nice, it actually increases your options, and society still prefers decent people not assholes. I agree with your point, though, what works in your adult life isn't exactly being nice, kindhearted, humble, sharing...or better said, it doesn't always work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 11:58 AM
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Agree, a solid relationship would have some lead swapping.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 09:05 PM
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Making the decissions but also most of the efforts, like elaborating/finding a plan... Anyway, it's too vague. Leading in bed (taking the initiative)? Telling your partner what you are going to do in general or having your opinion being more important? I think no one should lead. People will have different levels of motivation for different things, and sometimes a partner won't know what to do for holidays, for the weekend or whatever, but sometimes will definitely want to do something specific.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:56 PM
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Those are exagerations and you made them even worse... Do tattoes women sleep with more men? Yes, tattoos are a sign of impulsivity and usually a sign of a more open and modern mindset so that includes modern dating dynamics and sex positivity. A lot of deductions from just some ink in the skin but yeah, overall it tends to be the case, same for piercings. Can they be faithful if they had many previous partners? Yes, they can have plenty of past partners and not have cheated on all (or any) of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 03:18 AM
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The reason would be that life with an introvert has absolutely nothing to do with life with an extrovert. Different plans and social circles, different pace, different hobbies...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:01 AM
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Girl, you like extroverts or you like introverts, those are completely different and incompatible lifestyles...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 11:25 PM
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It's an opposite. Blonde and redhead aren't opposites.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 10:37 PM
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That's a bit like saying 'I'm attracted to everything'...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 09:58 PM
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Conventional introverts do literally just stay inside, for the most part. Edit: no...going anywhere with your wife is not adventurous, I'm not saying it's wrong or uncool, of course it's fine, but it's not adventurous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 08:56 PM
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Travelling to different countries alone or with company doesn't sound very conventionally introverted. Also, going anywhere with your wife is the opposite from adventurous, you are doing it with one of the persons you are supposed to trust the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 08:11 PM
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I agree as a relatively introverted person myself, but you do realize that's not the conventional definition of those traits, right...?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 07:10 PM
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How the heck did you manage to slip introvert in a list of extrovert traits... introvert but adventurous and funny? For real?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 06:13 PM
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The irony...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 06:11 PM
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They do put them in categories too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:42 PM
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Yeah I think almost everyone is nice to some extent, if you think about It, it's a smarter social behaviour, being nice should work better than anything... But being nice can't be everything, if you are nice but boring you aren't getting many friends, if you are nice but unattractive you are also not getting girls (though I insist niceness helps in general, it's just not nearly as important as people would like).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:22 PM
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What I understand from my experiences (also reading but let's be honest, personal experience in dating is more important) is something very, very simple...also very, very annoying and somewhat unfair. What women want isn't a lie, they want all men to be 'nice', respectful, educated...even the men who they want to hook up with or date, but they don't want that to make you attractive, they want that to make the world better for them, simply, and that includes dating. Here is the thing: that won't …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:34 AM
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Never...?
/r/MensRights07/04/24 03:32 AM

Because offer/demand ratio, basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:46 PM
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Regardless her attitude if she's unattractive she's going to be single unless she lowers her standards. Having what you call a pick-me attitude won't really change anything because that's like being a 'nice guy' but worse, because nice guys can still be providers if they have the resources but women mainly have to be attractive. That said, a kind attitude helps a lot just like a bitchy attitude will repel most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:28 PM
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I partially disagree, you will definitely know she's into you and she will definitely have some patience to not just flake all of a sudden. This is not a fake statement, it's the truth and it applies to most people. The problem is that nowadays people go on dates for the wrong reason, specially women. If she's using you as emotional support/ ego boost while the Chad of her preference is semi ghosting her, she will eventually ghost you, and of course she won't tell you specifically what's going o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 03:23 PM
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If you can't find love in your own country whatever the reason and you find the relationship/marriage abroad...well... It's most likely transactional and based on economic reasons, but that might make both persons involved happier I guess. It also seems that people are more attractive the more exotic they look...like, I'm often more succesful with tourists in my country than with the locals, honestly. (Me being European and tourists being Europeans too, to give some more context).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:45 AM
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You definitely lose them for taking things slowly, they feel rejected/consider you uninterested or see it as a waste of time. Like you do, I also mock and cringe about those sending dickpics and oversexualizing everything first minute. It's best to fall in a middle point. Anyway, there's a very simple rule for me. If a person loses interest because it's going slowly or is juggling many options, then that relationship wasn't worthwhile. If you missed a hook up, well...that hurts us a lot but hey,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 01:00 PM
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You know why... Anyway, a woman who wants to settle might be a better partner and you will have more in common (supposedly), but no, it's not that they suddenly genuinely like you despite never liking you or people like you enough for like 20 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:33 PM
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The fact that they are picky proves that they aren't that much into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 07:27 PM
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Where did I say it was wrong to want sex with people you are attracted to...?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 05:57 PM
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It actually tells them to go an insane self improvement route that isn't really reasonable for everyone, since we all have different potential and different qualities, but it's still good advice in that sense. Regarding the hate/self defeating side of it, yes, I think it's only hurting them. Women looking down on them even more? Like the average woman have a fucking single reason to look down on anyone, honestly...and that's not the 'hate' speaking, that's very objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 05:39 PM
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Nope. More like... 'damn, how the f*ck do I get to the appointment without a car😑 public transport is annoying and for losers...oh, I know! Will casually start a conversation with that friend who's absolutely crazy for me and let him know I don't know how to get to the appointment!'
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:42 PM
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I'm sure it's not his fault, she could always refuse to accept the favours. Again, I'm telling you in the example that she's already seeing or dating a guy and is using the 'friend' to make this guy jelous, not the other way around. It's not about entitlement... Sounds like a woman in that situation would be using excuses to take advantage of the 'friendzoned' guy by pretending she doesn't know what he feels and what he's doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:30 PM
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No, I mean using him to make another man jelous, like talking about him to the guy you are seeing to make him jelous for the attention he gives you, for instance. No, it's not their fault, if she's accepting favours and taking advantage it's still her fault, she's chosing to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:18 PM
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That would be 100% fair, at least when it's true. Not so fair when you are taking advantage of those feelings to make him drive you to the airport, invite you to new expensive restaurant, fix your computer/car, feed your ego and boost your confidence when you have been dumped, to make jelous the other guy that you actually want to date...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:52 PM
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Of course, that's fine, just don't come back to date them when you suddenly need a nice guy to help you with your problems, and don't lead them on to get favours... Real friendship is good, polite rejection is the right thing too, but that should be all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:49 PM
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Yeah man, I don't know how there's such a massive difference in the perception of short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:46 PM
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Well, it is not that it isn't real, it's that women hate admiting it cause it paints them under a bad light since some certainly take advantage of the guy's feelings, and then there's also the fact they love the idea of sexless/romanceless but happy guys who feel fulfilled enough through friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:49 AM
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Yep, age is definitely a factor for that. And in your case I guess you are attractive then, also college is a very particular environment, young students think they basically have to do it, that's uncool or weird not having many ONS. Heck, I got one of the most randoms ONS in college with a girl I had never talked to and suddenly out of nowhere she's inviting me to her beach house...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 02:30 AM
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Hey being short I have been with very attractive women a few (very few) times... For a 'short' time, though 🤔😅 Anyway, I'm definitely dating women my height or shorter if possible and that is. I'm not going to date obesse or very ugly women just because I'm short...ffs...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:42 AM
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Somehow it's men's fault again for protecting someone 🤷 Anyway, jokes aside...yes, it's men who enable their 'easy mode' lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:12 AM
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Funny...really...she looks a lot like a female friend who liked me...she showed to me conversations she has had on Tinder and guys she had hooked up with (to make me jelous I guess, and I know she wasn't lying cause our friends confirmed it). The guys ranged from average-ish to good looking gym dudes, one of them who sent her dick picks was married to a beautiful woman and the guy had lots of money...(Most of them more attractive than me I think, honestly) Like, I understand we don't blindly tru…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 11:39 PM
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Lol no... Men (most of them) have very low standards for casual sex, but better adjusted standards for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 03:59 PM
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Which proves they aren't all that into casual sex as you think. Finding sex appealing only with attractive men or when they have feelings is very different from how men feel about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 03:14 PM
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'Most men'? Average men definitely have low chances of just casual sex if being honest. They still should be honest, though, and eventually if you socialize/party and try you might find yourself getting casual sex but it's not common. The majority of women will only have sex with an average-ish guy if she thinks she has a chance of a relationship with him and wants that relationship. If a man tells a woman, in a polite enough way, that he likes her for sex but only sex, he's probably not getting…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 02:00 PM
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Yes, of course, specially when I was younger but eventually you learn to deal with it. Rejection, specially from a woman, is complicated subject, because the same woman that rejects you today could've accepted you yesterday, their attraction/interest is changing, she won't tell you she's actually seeing someone if he's not the official boyfriend (and they are always seeing someone...)and many other factors could make her attracted or unattracted, not just your looks, status or personality...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 11:20 AM
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It would be good if women didn't become so shallow. Outrunning a bear is literally the most useless skill you could have in the current century. I'd be ok with that logic if they married Chad instead of rotating to date the same few (% speaking) guys... Heck, I perhaps could even be ok with being 100% lonely instead of played by a woman who thinks has the right to use me or cheat on me cause Chad did the same things to her 😅 Anyway, I guess the awkard dude did his job inventing automatization, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 03:23 AM
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Let's not delude ourselves... No, the fact that women think men do all of that just tonsurvive is the problem. They do way more than necessary, you don't need half the stuff they do just to survive. How is the body of a person an appropiate reward? Good question. How is it appropiate? It seems to be, considering that women gravitate towards succesful men when their hard work translates as wealth, status and quality of life. I of course am not talking about the system forcing women to satisfy eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 03:10 AM
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You don't want to understand what I wrote... What I'm saying is that men (and women too) work thanks to motivations and rewards, you need both things. A very intelligent and curious man might invent something and work hard on it like you work on a hobby, and certainly a man will work to avoid starvation and dead, but a man won't work hard enough to achieve anything special if he isn't getting a reward or even expecting it (motivation) and you need lots of men (and women) working hard enough to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 09:58 PM
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I also don't like that expression (it's not fair) but you are delusional if you think most of those inventions, buildings and work happened just to buy groceries and pay bills... Depending on the economic and social system, men did most of those things to contribute so they would be part of a system they were interested on. Human history is really, really long... Men provided for their families, women provided too in many ways not just by giving birth, and they all, despite what feminism claims,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 09:20 PM
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I'm not currently diagnosed that I know, but often (specially when I was youger) I was suspected by proffesionals to be ND...in a few ways to at least some extent (last I heard was that I might be bipolar, and certainly have a tendency to depression which has been diagnosed). For me, dating has been possible, even a few hook ups despite looking sverage-ish, but it also became a main reason why my relationships failed. I honestly don't believe much in the NT/ND dichotomy...I believe there's a fuc…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 04:45 PM
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To be fair, while it's true that they gravitate towards assholes, if you are the one breaking up / rejecting her or just an ex she's no longer friends with, you become automatically the asshole, even if you are actually quite a decent guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 02:44 PM
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It was infinitely better. You wouldn't have such an abundance mindset so you'd be more patient and work extra hard on your relationship, so relationships worked better and for longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 12:55 PM
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They are and, indeed, when proffesionals have to diagnose it, it's way higher on men... Know what? Because they use a different metric, like with autism. By default women are relatively narcissistic and men are relatively autistic, so those two things aren't diagnosed following the same standards for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 09:54 AM
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Insecurity and other traits, yeah, they hate it, to the point they sometimes even mistake them... Has happened to me too a few times, if she thinks you are too scared of anything, unless you are still her best option she will lose all interest. One of them rejected me for looking insecure about where to get dinner, she thought I wasn't assertive and told me so. The truth was that I didn't give a shit about the dinner place, couldn't care less but since it was a date in a vulnerable time of my li…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 05:56 PM
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Ahh yes, another case of 'men's feelings don't matter'... Look, they are not going to stop until they get us all cucked... I don't even care what it means, I know it's human and even sometimes a good trait to be insecure, it means you see reality, it means you are humble enough to understand many things that other people would even avoid thinking about. Do the opposite, go watch porn in a relationship or tell her similar comments, specially if the woman doesn't look remotely like her, see what h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 12:46 PM
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My opinion is that like mgtow it isn't going anywhere... You don't give up on those things as a movement, you get them (if you can) or you don't because you can't or you have different priorities. That's not really a movement, a movement should be fighting for something, should be trying to change something. What you are describing doesn't make sense in any feminist country.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 04:26 AM
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Nothing to debate, this is well known. Perhaps it would be interesting to talk about the opposite case when a woman doing/saying the same thing is seen as creepy or wrong, if that happens, and to what extent. A man is considered potentially dangerous physically speaking, and is also assumed to have worse instincts. 'Creepy' is also one of the main shaming words to use against them when you want their attitudes corrected, so yeah, it's seen as more creepy. That said, I think it's also universally…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 03:21 PM
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Differences in life style and economy reasons, mainly.
/r/MensRights23/03/24 05:24 PM
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Nothing wrong with asking her to be your gf, it's just that they rarely are emotionally available because they see so many guys and fall for the one who doesn't want her. Until they get over that guy they aren't ready for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:56 PM
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Yeah man, I think the same, first I would like to get a girlfriend or a real relationship going on, then I'd travel wherever they want but that's the order for me, I'm not travelling anywhere just to seduce a woman, it's already a red flag if that's what she needs to like me. Regarding exclusivity, if I have slept once or twice with the girl and want to see her more then I don't even bother with other girls. If she needs more time then again she just doesn't like me enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:40 PM
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And you wouldn't believe the amount of girls subtly telling me that we would hook up if we travel...like, they just don't give a shit about most of us, it's just about what you do for them. Sure, it's not technically prostitution but if you like me enough to travel and fuck but not enough to just fuck then you don't really like me and you are trading sex for a (potentially expensive) experience. Then there are those who will expect you to go to restaurants and wait til the last second to see if …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 08:51 PM
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Lol not me...though I certainly get some matches 'easily' and sometimes go on dates. Improving my profile (specially pictures) helped inmensely. I look like a decent person in most pictures (little they know about my twisted patriarchal mind and the empty hollow where a heart is supposed to be) 😐 Jokes aside, yeah, I look like a somewhat trustworthy person, I'm not intimidating at all despite not being particularly femenine or anything like that. I filled all the picture slots and, while it's no…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 06:34 PM
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No, it doesn't work and won't work. At best, if it somehow becomes socially accepted and not an embarrasment for everyone involved, it could kinda help slightly with the sexual frustration but it's not the same without feelings and validation, and it's not cheap so it wouldn't mean having sex regularly. If anything I suppose it makes lonely men feel worse about themselves and about everything. Virtual waifus, sex bots and shit like that won't help much either, for the same reasons. 'Going your o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 06:02 PM
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Mostly used against men, yeah.
/r/MensRights21/03/24 02:43 PM
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I think women overstimate their social skills and downplay men's psychological knowledge...we chose (mostly out of niceness and empathy) to not tell you how we perceive you. If you are insane we know you are insane, if you have a huge complex with anything we realize it too, and if you are autistic there's no way you can hide it being in a relationship, it becomes obvious enough, but the man might chose to accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 12:20 AM
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The issues didn't become apparent enough to me until I started dating an autistic woman, and wasn't really much different from dating supposedly neurotypical women though certainly harder. The reason you see more autistic women in relationships have been explained herena gazillion times: women have a much easier time finding a man(although not necessarily the partner they want). The autistic guy has to offer something else than just sex and companionship. Supply and demand too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 12:16 AM
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Everyone have noticed that, and yet it can't be changed. Women hold ALL the power regarding dating, it's the way they want it to be, because they are valuable (sexually) by default. Only the most attractive and rich men have power...the average guy won't be deciding the rules. Can you chose to not play the game then? Not really, cause you have a sex drive and you also don't want to be alone. If you want it to benefit you, you have to set your own rules and assume the lower chances doing it that …
/r/MensRights18/03/24 01:56 PM
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True, as many or perhaps even more due to certain trends that tell them they are queens whatever they do...the difference, and I have female friends that are 'low quality' (don't like calling them or anyone low quality, honestly...), is that they are constantly being hit (only for sex usually) on media and Tinder. Theh truly just can chose who to fuck, honestly, not who to have a relationship with but certainly who to start fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 11:40 AM
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It's always something you notice initially, but it's not everything about the dynamic with women. As for 'caring' or not about the friendship, that depends on how funny, supportive and demanding she is as a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 08:19 PM
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What does going redpill mean in this context...? Sounds like just some sort of mysoginy, which I guess is technically accurate... Anyway, if you meant becoming jaded and cynical then yes. If you meant applying redpilled dating tactics, they already do that in their own version, the redpill dating advice basically sums up as manipulation, lies + self improvement to become more attractive, that's something a lot of women do too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 02:29 PM
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Attractive men can get away with anything, basically, sometimes even with cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:45 AM
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You are understimating many factors there, though you aren't wrong, it's in their hands and they have to keep trying to socialize instead of isolating more, but it absolutely works differently for men, we all know that, we can delude ourselves all we want but we know it's different and extra hard for men. I'm social enough and have friends, have had relationships too, I tend to isolate myself a bit but my social skills are actually quite good. Can tell you that male and female autistic people ar…
/r/MensRights10/03/24 12:22 AM
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Yes, there is, no time to watch the video now but the real reasons are mainly related to the economic crisis and feminism, to give a quick answer, and just in case anyone suggested it's men's fault for their bad social skills or whatever bs...
/r/MensRights10/03/24 12:13 AM
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'before anyone starts it's not a trans' 🙈 why...I mean, really🤣 Anyway, I'm very sorry as I guess you cought some feelings if you were chatting for months... Has she tried being romantic in some way? She should be talking to people around her age or at least not so much younger. How did her profile look as the catfish? Was it a random picture or did she really tried to pass for a much younger person? Asking because if that wasn't some sort of accident (that she prolonged for attention/entertainm…
/r/MensRights05/03/24 03:59 PM
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This is what we get when a society is so ill... Mental illnesses everywhere and inmoral behaviour. Imagine the grade of selfishness to murder your partner and blame it on your teenage child...
/r/MensRights02/03/24 03:53 PM
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That it obviously could hurt the self esteem of a partner is what I'd say, and I'd add that attraction to your partner diminishes the more porn you watch, there are studies about that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 01:59 AM
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Because it shouldn't be necessary in a relationship and likely would hurt the self esteem of a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:07 AM
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Bad, and I wouldn't want her to be fine with me watching porn either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:45 PM
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Well... that's just dumb girls acting dumb but men the same age could be doing something similar and we wouldn't be complaining, unless I misunderstood the video that's just a bunch of girls dancing and pretending to be empowered (if Chad doesn't call the next day she's depressed and crying in bed).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:27 PM
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You know that for lots of people somehow she's a victim, for whatever bs reasons.
/r/MensRights01/03/24 11:20 PM
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I'm an introvert but had to reinvent myself a bit and adapt better (and yeah, that got me dates and relationships, sometimes). The world is not for the introvert and dating certainly isn't. It's what it is, I hate how important it is for women but that's what it is (and it honestly makes sense). Look, it's not just about meeting people. Women feel very unattracted to introverts, in general, and if you end up dating someone she will find out and will hate it, whatever they tell you here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:53 PM

It's not necessarily something to bring to the extreme, I know that a man can find general kindness and sometimes even romantic love without working ultra hard for that or faking an entire personality, but the premise is there... The 'self flagellation' is also awareness. Men should be aware so they can make the right decissions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:49 PM

Men can't be 'loved' for who they are, but for what they provide (not talking about money exclusively). Women aren't loved for who they are, that's what it seems, but they aren't. Women are valuable by default (sex value and can have children), that doesn't mean that, even if you 'fall in love' (chemicals) you would permanently love her if there are many personality traits that you don't like. Eventually you'd stop loving her if that's the case. There are, as you say, a few personality traits th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:46 PM

They are valuable by default, would be a better way to put it. Nobody is unconditionally loved, maybe kids and pets but not adults, and women ironically struggle a lot with being used without commitment (meaning their personalities are sometimes the problem). A woman with a good personality and attractive body can very easily get a man to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:39 PM
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Well, it's the same for me now (late 30's), have been dating many years and had some casual relationships too but I just don't have the energy and resources anymore, at least not for a remotely attractive woman... they can just date a different guy every month so they won't settle for just a decent man, if they can't have the best then they can at least have several first dates with as many average dudes as they want. My last 3 relationships failed for that reason, no energy anymore for what the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:43 PM
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Look, 'personality' means an almost completely different thing for women than it does for men. Personality is mainly providing fun, positive experiences (or not so much, but at least fun) and no toxicity. Values, for instance, are by far the least important factor. They'd fall more often for their male friends if they stopped providing what they provide as just friends, and these male friends might work mostly as a safety net or healthy circle, that's not attractive. What people have to understa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:40 PM
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You are, a lot, indeed. And I remind you, I said truly single women, not those going on dates and maybe sleeping with someone...a real single woman over a certain age is absolutely miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:27 PM
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That's what my friends admit to me🤷 single men are miserable too so I don't think it's surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:00 PM
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Hey the looking stoically into the distance with sunglasses kinda look fine to me, is it really a bad thing...?😅🤣 I think one of the problems is that even when we do cool stuff, we don't really take many pictures so it goes unnoticed. Anyway, I have been making some changes to my profile lately and am going from an unexpectedly high rate of matching and dates to almost no matches 😑 I think it's because I'm starting to use pictures where I think I look better but don't necessarily inspire anythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 05:56 PM
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Real single women aren't happy, at all... Women in situationships with Chad might be happy, dunno, but single women definitely aren't, they are, indeed, absolutely miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 05:41 PM
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You are being very technical with the term logical/illogical there... When someone acts based on emotions or makes long term decissions based on a shortsighted impulse/feeling, for example, is what we call illogical. Acting according to your 'needs' or desires doesn't make you logical. I get you could say there's logic because certainly she's following a rationale, a toxic and delusional one (if she's being called illogical). Getting pregned by the bad boy you like to trap him is actually very l…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:48 PM
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It's something that happens more often than people will admit. It's the whole concept of settling or dating down, and depending on how you word it and express it sounds almost cute or shitty... Women often give the 'ugly' (just unattractive) guy a chance, and it's idealized as the guy winning her heart through his 'personality' (attention and things he provides). Men often end up doing the same, the mostly unattractive but wife/relationship material woman. Again idealized, as the woman winning h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:11 PM
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It's not a lot to me either, it's actually around my number, but I don't see how something being normal or accepted would be the reason when the mentality is that you are at such risks. My point was that it seems a bit contradictory, unless the reward is perceived as much more likely than the risk, which is how I think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 09:25 AM
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Regarding your last point why would they engage in a lot of casual sex considering the previous points? Wouldn't it seem like a bad idea for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:07 AM
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It's tough at first, the community is very heterogeneus despite what it may seem, but the mods and other users do their best at keeping it healthy enough. Keep in mind that the way you understand modern feminism is not how we understand it, for instance. However, in case you end up debating, I'm sure you will manage to convince people about some of your points and provide a different perspective too.
/r/MensRights12/02/24 01:27 AM
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Yes, they are allowed and welcome, though you might find the debates particularly unpleasant since MRA clashes with Feminism at some points. Btw, you might get banned from several subs just for joining this one.
/r/MensRights12/02/24 01:21 AM
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Certainly you have to go out, mainly to where people are partying or socializing too. If it's for casual sex definitely bar parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 01:40 PM
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It's masochism at this point...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:45 PM
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That popular study has been removed. To be fair, it was led by a dating app/site so it's not necessarily how women would feel about men in the world... However, I have to say that many women admited that to me, not 20% but a more generic 'I find most men to be unattractive' where most men admit to find most women attractive. It's also common to hear from them that they find men more attractive once they know them better, though it rarely ends up with the woman dating the man. I see it as a perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:32 PM
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I have learnt other perspectives and how most of our issues are just in our heads. Btw the sub isn't supposed to be just about the redpill, right? It's purple for a reason 😅 understanding the redpill is very easy, it's evolutive psychology and scientifical data (often taken to the extreme but that's the premise). Edit: I come here for entertainment, though it's so depressing and offensive I often regret it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:23 PM
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I'm an old millenial and have become kinda jaded and disillusioned myself but it always surprises me how 'redpilled' are the younger generations...it shouldn't because divorce became far more common and many of them experienced it as children, but it's still sometimes hard to believe. I mean, normally you'd have to go through some bad experiences yourself and not just read about hypergamy or redpilled stuff on the internet...but it seems they are seeing it everywhere when not experiencing It dir…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 02:26 AM

We are stating facts, not criticizing. We are critic towards the hypocrisy of some posts, though. The masculine negative version exist. It's not being physically attractive, it's being toxic and competitive with other men to impress women, putting down other men to look better and seeking attention becoming the protagonist at every turn. Have you seen those idiots playing loud awful music at the worst time in their cars doing nothing but driving around where the girls are?? Have you never seen o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:45 PM

God...they don't do it for every man out there, they do it in the hopes of attracting a man they like. Honestly, it actually is for every man... though they like the attention, not the harassment. You can't look at the unfortunate results and say 'that's not what I wanted, so that's not why I did it'. A woman who dressed attractive wants attention from men, specially attractive men, but also want it to be manifested in respectful enough way... Obviously we understand the hot 25 girl dressed prov…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:54 PM

Well...I guess it's not the healthiest place.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:44 PM

This shouldn't be a debate at all. Of course they do it for attention, like men dress the best they can to try to impress others. It's not exactly the same but yeah... Women indeed do dress up very provocatively for attention since very early ages, to the point they actually would look much better if they toned it down a bit, honestly. (Imo).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:43 PM

It absolutely is for men. 100% is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:41 PM

What...? Why would the men here call him a cuck for liking you dressed up to look hot...? At worst he would be a simp but not really, that's just normal mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:39 PM
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Because men are generally assumed to be dangerous whereas women aren't, and because if it' was for women, men wouldn't have the right to say or complain about anything in relationships, it's their domain...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:50 AM

That's the most obvious (and reasonable) conclusion you could come to, but it's actually a bit more complicated in some cases. See the most radicalized feminist forums? Well, many of those women (when it comes to hating men) are essentially hurt, dissapointed and ostracized women or at least that's how they feel, and they probably had good reasons to feel thar way, but they are mostly venting, sharing their frustrations with other women who have had similar experiences. The Manospherian subs, in…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 09:16 PM

Perhaps it's not so much the specific advise but the tone what helps. Hard work and failure are necessary for improvement, failures teach us, though it's sometimes nearly impossible to recover from it. There's a reason why men hate hearing that, they feel like they have to work extra hard without much of a real chance of getting what they want. I don't think life is easy for anyone but it's definitely a feeling among modern men, that they are required to put more effort than ever for less reward…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 08:04 PM

Yes, many men need acceptance not just sex (though sex too to varying degrees). I don't disagree with your points but it's precisely my inside what's 'wrong' without being 'bad'. For example I force myself to be extroverted, ironically I have very good social skills, but I'm quite an introvert. I have insomnia and a tendency to depression, that's not something anyone is going to accept, that's something you try to compensate for and hide for later, so I better focus on showing my exterior or my …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:12 PM

There's some useful and realistic advise there, though, without breaking your moral code, and it often prevents you from getting manipulated against your best interests... Though I admit it's not a tenet and the redpill becomes extremely toxic if you overthink its phylosophy... Anyway, where would you want men to go for knowledge or functional advise...? Can't say it worked or didn't for me, but I only had succes when I looked the best I can and had the best status I could. My kindness brought m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:47 PM

Be your best self in a blue pilled version is be yourself while smiling... The redpill is extremely toxic if taken to the extreme and entirely disregarding some of the bluepilled philosophies that aren't wrong. Personality, for instance, matters, not in the way we would like but it matters, a lot. The bluepill is ineffective and even counterproductive if, again, taken to the extreme and negating the redpilled useful knowledge. Looks and status/money, for instance, matter far more than your perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:26 PM
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Don't justify it, if you want to do it that's your decission but a moral man with values and honor won't justify betrayal and lying.
/r/MensRights07/02/24 06:19 PM

Believing the redpills to sadly be true doesn't imply you becoming ammoral or manipulative. If there's something I can exploit to get a girl I like more interested on me it will depend on what it means morally too, but that's something everyone does to some extent, unconciously. I'm redpilled and the last 3 relationships I broke I did it exactly to not hurt anyone when it clearly wasn't going to work. It would've been easier and better for me to keep them as sexual partners. If we are looking at…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:15 PM

All those listed things, are good as they sound, are absolute dogshit advise or good advise depending on the details. Personality doesn't matter unless you are goddamn awful, and even then, a too peaceful and 'nice' personality is considered boring. It's all about not being a massive asshole with cero hobbies/interests to share and no social skills. Obviously, the more of the attractive personality you have, the higher your chances. Same for respect. Yes, they want a minimun of respect, of cours…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 05:59 PM

Be yourself. The right person will appear when you least expect it. Don't judge your date and be nice, in a 'just don't care about the obvious red flags you are seeing'. Looks don't matter. The problem with blue pill advice isn't that it's wrong. The problem is that, from blue pilled sources, the nuances won't be explained because they aren't always nice and everything is just sugar coated. Be yourself: if yourself doesn't entirely suck, and only once she's at least a bit seduced and impressed b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 05:47 PM
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Where the heck do I have to sign to get my male privileges? Cause so far life isn't easy at all...
/r/MensRights07/02/24 03:53 PM
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That's a bit complicated because it might not be intentional, by hitting too much on women and being a player, you give them all the ammunition they need to cancel you if they want. Not hitting on them gets you less sexual/romantic succes. What I do now (though I'm older than you and in a different context) is simply reading their interest well and being careful. Not asking out many women and not if I don't see a few signs... Anyway, you are not a menace if you know you aren't. You are not going…
/r/MensRights07/02/24 02:26 PM
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Yeah, that's all I can do now, for better or worse. And experience is so valuable to find the best and most compatible partners, so at least I get that from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 03:57 AM
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But that's the way, not giving up, man. I understand it's not a choice autistic people make. In fact, I highly doubt anyone choses to be the way he is. Change takes lots of effort and time and is sometimes really small. What can change, however is the environment, though it's a bit difficult in your area it seems. I know an autistic guy who suffered from bullying and currently has a very nice social circle, I went to have beers with him a few times, and to watch football though he knows about pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 03:52 AM
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Thank you, I sometimes have to remind it to myself. As I said, she's not a bad person, it's more complicated than that, so it's a pitty that it went that way but I think she needs someone better than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 03:42 AM
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Oh...I see. So you are smiling and listening, that should be almost good enough. Try to have an opinion on those subjects too, or maybe a joke, you have to be nice and funny, and of course try in different places if one doesn't work. It also helps knowing about current trends and topics to have something more to talk about. In a low population place that's a lot more difficult, it seems to me that's the main problem, like 100% sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 03:20 AM
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It has been two months for me and I'm terrified...you have her at home every day and sleep together but only fuck once a month...I hope we are talking about really long and crazy sex sessions, because if it's literally just once it sounds like a nightmare, imagine the self esteem issues too...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 03:13 AM
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Hahahaha I honestly love these threads 🤣🙈... Jokes aside, the 2nd woman main potential danger for a relationship is that she has options, and the 1st one is that she's kinda boring and you get sex once a month, essentially a dead bedroom at many ages and specially when starting a relationship... I'm insecure myself but the 1st one isn't even a real option with the once a month sex, honestly...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 03:10 AM
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I totally agree, it's different for every case. This one in particular was quite normal in general and high functioning, but it felt like it wasn't going to work long term and we would have hurted each other. My problem is that I'm very patient and nice, to a remarkable level, until I'm not...and then I say things which could hurt anyone. As I said, I'm quite flawed myself too. In retrospective I think she's more functional and potentially a better partner than I can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 03:05 AM
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Hey, I'm way more succesful with women in my 30's than I was in my 20's, and I know some autistic guys who made wonderful social groups, don't lose hope! Habe you tried MeetUp or a similar app? There are Facebook groups too in pretty much every town. It's difficult, it certainly is, I moved to a new town in my 30's and it's damn difficult for sure but you can do it, just try to be nice and funny/Interesting in conversations(as much as you can).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:35 AM
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I dated an autistic woman for a few months, it wasn't terrible but it takes some humbleness to admit that it's really difficult, it's basically a very toxic relationship where a partner doesn't even realize he/she is toxic. That woman dumped me twice in a month due to her insecurities and me being overworked, then wanted to get back with me, which I refused for a couple of weeks...what she did after the break up was really annoying and the few times I tried to carefully and kindly explain it to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:31 AM
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Kinda, but it's a joke that you point to hygiene or extreme social anxiety...what you guys did and I have been doing too when succesfully dating is socializing. Most women certainly are out there in the 'real world' and not playing video games. Those 'normal' men are indeed way too normal, to an almost worrying level if you ask me, and forgive me if that's rude to say, I'm not saying I'm better. The moment you want a truly balanced relationship, certain degree of security, enough time for yourse…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 12:16 AM
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Exactly.
/r/MensRights06/02/24 11:26 PM
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It's actually 99% related to being a rich male, but there aren't that many rich males...
/r/MensRights06/02/24 10:42 PM
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Male privilege kind of exist...it's experienced by 0'0001% of men out there, if not less, but it exist. We must fight it with all our strength so a random woman with enough talent and experiencie to become the CEO of a random company in a 3rd world country achieves that.
/r/MensRights06/02/24 09:52 PM
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For jobs that aren't about physical strength they are a bit better evolutively speaking (multi tasking, social skills). I don't think that alone makes them better however, they tend to be toxic in work environments compared to men, who are also better in other tasks. And just like that, good and negative things could be said about men in different contexts. The genders are complementary with potential to do essentially the same things, men are usually slightly better at some stuff and women are …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:38 PM
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Incels are pretty much people with mental illnesses or too ugly/unattractive. That sounds to me like people who would need help and support instead of hate. I'm not an incel but I share some of their feelings, I tend to be lonely and dislike how society works, and I'm insecure despite having had relationships...so I visited their forums too. They are certainly weird and cynical but that is. Elliot Rodger and Minassian don't represent them at all, those are two guys out of what...hundreds of thou…
/r/MensRights06/02/24 03:11 PM
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Majority of incels aren't white, dude...
/r/MensRights06/02/24 02:59 PM
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Because they are gay and men. Tolerance for gay men is a thing from the past, from the 80's and 90's...when men weren't yet considered bad by default. Lbgt rivalizes with feminism despite their supposedly similar role as 'oppressed minority'. On top of that, women consider them of no use. Finally, despite straight men becoming more tolerant, there are still many who love watching lesbians (seen as something exciting) and hate gay men (seen as something rare).
/r/MensRights06/02/24 03:42 AM
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It has been my case a few times but not for the best. As a man, if you want something you work to get it, and you get better or worse reward depending on your work+inherent value, that's all. When I say work I also mean enabling the situation (socializing, meeting new people...).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:58 AM
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I'm not even reading it, honestly. Paternity test ASAP, in case you are the father which I doubt, you decide how much you want to be involved... though your money would certainly get involved whatever you decide.
/r/MensRights06/02/24 12:18 AM
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No, not at all, it doesn't make you less of a man, it makes you more of a human.
/r/MensRights05/02/24 10:50 PM
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Ufff... that's ok if you really want to do that but I'm not sure it would be healthy for the kid. Also, I got subtly proposed something like that by a career oriented girl who was getting pumped and dumped by every Chad in town. I honestly felt super offended... Ironically a few years later I ended up hooking up with her, I guess she was desperate. She was really akward and I honestly would've hated dating her or sharing any responsibilities with her... Mentally healthy people in our culture (as…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 10:38 PM
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Well, that is, what is funny or sexy can be cringe or creepy if you aren't attractive enough. It basically applies to everything not just fetishes. Feet is considered a fetish because most (or just many?) people don't care about them whereas the majority notices other parts, but ultimately it's just a body part too so nothing particularly rare with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 10:07 PM
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It's not how I decide or how I make it look, I'm talking about the 'rules'. The rule is that anything straying from what's considered 'normal' and 'very common' gets labeled as weird, creepy or cringe. Feet in particular isn't super bizarre or rare, but still is considered a cringe thing when it's not subtle and complementary, as you explained. Most people find feet in general to be ugly or disgusting and not much of a sexual thing. Personally I think some look nice but I'm still not sexually at…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:33 PM
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There's a bit of a difference between a fetish and a preference, though I understand and agree with your point. The thing with fetishes is that they are supposed to be less accepted or weird. Like, loving boobs and ass is fine, being obssesed with feet looks weird and cringe, and that's a light one... Chubby/obesse fetish for instance is usually a guy who would want to fuck those women, perhaps even prefer those women, but often still not date them, I have seen some of those. Anyway, there's cer…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:46 PM
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If it's wrong, morally speaking, it mostly depends on the other person being fine or not with the idea of not being what you wanted but what you could get. Personally I think it's a bad idea, and I have decided to not do It eventhough I'm single at the age of 38 (though I sometimes date, casually and more seriously). I'd rather be lonely, bored or whatever...I think a relationship is way too much work and stress if you aren't feeling it. Also, already kinda did that in the past and was perhaps o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 01:40 AM
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Look...you can work on your personality just like you can work on your body, to an extent it can be improved or simply changed...not that you'd need to do that, but if you think there's something you'd like to change, give it a try... I went from introverted to a more mixed style, became a bit more proactive too, and more difficult to annoy/hurt. Became wiser (age helps with that too)...and I wish I could change more things. Your personality is very difficult to change or to adapt, but you can d…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 04:59 AM
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It already kinda is, a depressing one, but plenty of people relies on the internet and media/games to socialize. That kind of man (perhaps any kind of man in a similar situation) would be much happier with that, depending on the quality of the advancements they make. If it's anything like JOI from BladeRunner it could work, if it's just a Tamagotchi with a waifu then I guess it won't be enough. I don't think we should be talking about replacements. As you said, there's no replacement for human c…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:20 AM
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Yes, absolutely, and I don't want it neither I need them (so far) since I'm lucky enough to get some dates from time to time...but it makes all the sense. (Don't get me wrong, I'm no Chad at all) What I also think is that long distance relationships are similar, you could have a distance GF to chat or phone from time to time, watching movies together through skype, for instance, maybe sexting if you like that... Still, people will definitely go for a developed enough AI that looks gorgeous, desi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:14 AM
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You havn't seen dark humour until you hear a woman talking about the guys she rejects and her reasons...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:47 PM
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We truly are doomed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:44 PM
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The idea isn't entirely wrong but the way it's worded is. Women have way higher standards for attraction and satisfaction than men. Attraction (to some extent at least) is absolutely necessary for a relationship in the modern society. Pets and children are supposedly loved unconsitionally too, yes, but that's not always true and is a different subject. The spirit behind the idea simply is: men have lower standards, generally speaking, so they don't ask for much, just regular sex, a nice enough p…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:22 AM
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For...? For not believing the current world is fair, for not agreeing with whatever ideas you have or just due to whatever crazy assumptions you are making...? Enlighten me, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 11:26 PM
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Well, that's a very respectable approach, though I'd rather find a way of fighting an unfair society, if only by whining and complaining, honestly...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:23 PM
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You can actually fight against an unfair system but if I'm honest I don't see that happening, yeah, I guess we all will be just adapting to eating grasshopper flour and owning a bycicle at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:51 PM
2

Poverty spreads itself...in those countries they migrate to wealthier countries, it's called inmigration and that's what it usually is: a poor person trying to find a better life (or even sustain his/her family) in a decently wealthy place. The cultural problem with inmigration is that when 80% of your population is, for example, muslim, you can't really ask them to become feminists, they have no real reason to accept that or any new values/philosophies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:42 PM
2

Just rot at home, you meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:35 PM
3

That's exactly what they are doing, glad some people here realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:33 PM
0

That's exactly what the elites won't be doing: living an 'easier' life with only what they need. It's you who is going to be ok with just having food, clothes and owning nothing, not even a flat or a car. Depopulation is necessary, every few years we destroy more jobs due to technological advances, and the elites don't want a poor angry population, they want us happy enough. I honestly doubt the elites would brainwash society into having more children...they already use inmigration for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:31 PM
0

100 years...! Boy, if you asked 10-40 years then maybe, but 100 years is impossible to know...in 100 years people might be dating AI waifus/husbandos and reproducing in laboratories... Ok, I'm gonna try... In 100 years population will be lower because clearly there's no job for everyone and resources are limited. There will be artificial wombs and will be used mainly by women to avoid pregnancy. . Social media will be even more developed and integrated into our lives due to technological advance…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:26 PM
-3

Because it takes her like 5 minutes in Tinder to find a bunch of potential new boyfriends...and well, cause relationship dynamics too, the man usually has to adapt to the woman or she becomes too unhappy for the relationship to work. That said, many women are subservient to their husbands too, specially when they havn't been shown healthier relationships (mainly by their parents) or when they are with a gigachad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:06 AM
1

Every country should be responsible for their fights and every citizen should be responsible for his goverment. You can't play the 'look how evil they are' card to commit a genocide for your economic interests and pretend to be morally good. Morality should never be utilitarian, that's the definition of fake morality and an evil thought in itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 03:24 PM
1

USA learnt very well from the British, they do what almost everyone else if not even worse...but makes the best propaganda and spread it everywhere even outside the country. I'll concede there are worse countries, yes, and well, the citizens are allowed to be skeptical because that's what keeps an illusion of freedom. I question to what extent we truly are voting for independent people in democratic countries, honestly, but yeah it's better than in other authoritarian cultures. I hope you unders…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 03:07 PM
1

I definitely treat kind people the best I can and even am more attracted (or better said, romantically interested) to them, but I guess that's not how it works for most people, dunno. Something I can say for certain is that if you are just sverage-ish and you fail at being kind you are probably losing the girl. Anyway, regarding the initial premise, as long as you believe that everyone should be kind (doesn't mean you have to be boring all the time) and you are nice to women who aren't intereste…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 03:54 AM
1

Men don't have anything against it but it's kind of bad/situational advice. I think some women like it because it makes those men more manipulable, it's a way of getting them emotionally attached, that's how they stop calling just for sex and start developing feelings. Other women probably just consider It healthier.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 03:30 AM
1

Hahahahaha...ah, shit, I need some breath... Do you really think your country (or any other country) 'fights evil'?? Your country, like every country, makes bad propaganda about their next target...it's, btw, particularly to blame for supporting dictatorships in other countries. The intervention in WW2? That one which came unneccessarily late and had to happen if they didn't want a much bigger rival in a few years? You guys have been justifying decades of selfish inmoral wars with WW2 excuse... …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 12:06 PM
1

What do you bomb, my much wiser friend...? I may even have much better understanding than you but hey, I'm willing to listen and learn. Try to be objective, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:51 AM
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That's for you, man, not everyone is ok with keeping intentions hiden...I may even do other things wrong, not saying I'm better, but being dishonest with women that I'd only have sex with isn't something I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:39 PM
1

As much as I'd like to do it, I'm not really into casual sex because I feel like I'm manipulating them against their best interests. That said, I have had a few hook ups and flings, but always open to give them a chance for something serious (and expecting to be given a chance too). Sex zone would be for someone undateable for me. Undateable for me is someone I'm definitely not physically attracted to, I can't help it...it just doesn't work, I don't find enough motivation and the relationship tu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:35 PM
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There are, whether we like that or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:26 PM
0

Wait...it was out of need?? USA needs to bomb countries...? Because if it wasn't for fun or need, then it was power, money or control...and you can't be an example of positive masculinity then.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 02:08 PM
1

Well that might be the case, I have not read/listen most of his work but what I remember was mostly pure motivational bs to get you in the rat race for a couple more weeks. It certainly have 'backfired', but wait, did it...?with the current cersonship levels, only an idiot would openly (and wrongly) go full caricature of toxic masculinity, but there's always an idiot, like Tate... More intelligent and subtle approaches like J.P's get shut down very quickly, if someone is going to speak against m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:49 AM
2

It's just a funny way of saying women hate unambitious men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:36 AM
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Honestly...I'm not American and I understand what you mean but I think it's wrong, if he can't change or at least fight the 'tradition' of bombing poor countries then it simply can't be a good man. The context being terrible wouldn't make him a good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:00 AM
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I like most of what he says but that man is there to make business, not to help anyone, just like all the coaches on this planet. Showing empathy to the incels (which is right, Imo) is the smart move... it's a growing demographic, it's the kind of vulnerable people who would listen to motivational coaches, of course he did that...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 02:56 AM
2

Now imagine having a gf and declining the offer to be king...she would be so mad she would throw you to the volcano with the ring...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 02:51 AM
4

You'd have to define early dating... I honestly hate it, though I understand it's not cheating if you are still just going on dates to keep knowing each other but nothing happened yet. A relationship doesn't become serious the moment the couple decides it's officially serious. It becomes serious the moment it becomes intimate and there's an intention of eventually dating. You can't just tell me 'we weren't serious yet' and expect me to be fine with you sleeping around...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:06 AM
1

It's kinda funny because I know some cases where the woman wasn't cheating, but as soon as they broke up, she fucked at least one of the orbiters and the guy usually knows which one. Basically, if you decide to break up, you know she's going to be fucking someone in no time, but you probably know specifically which one...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:11 AM
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Not very worried at my age anymore, but some people are more extroverted and need more social life. If you get to a point where she decides to go out without you when you are too busy, tired or not really in the mood...then I guess you could worry. It's not always like we refuse to socialize together or anything like that...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:00 AM
0

There's a difference between what I consider cheating and what I'm willing to endure in a relationship with s modern woman. Flirting is cheating on a certain level and I won't tolerate it. Relying on another man for emotional support could be emotional cheating too, though it depends on some factors (their status as friends, time they spend, subjects...). Attention seeking is...well, how the f*uck do you stop that without becoming the abussive asshole...?? I know plenty of women who admit how ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 03:56 AM
1

They do it too, though if you want to remark the hypocrisy then yes...age gaps are demonized for stupid reasons and mainly jelousy (though there are solid arguments against it too). Wealth gap is only a problem when it's over and he doesn't hand her half his stuff so she can have basically the same life being single or with the new man. The man being abusive taking advantage of her finantial vulnerability is a concern too but it's not as common as a subject as the older guy somehow having more p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:14 PM
1

Yes, undoubtedly... Most men aren't naturally 'ambitious' but relatively humble. Most men don't idolize travelling to the degree women do, that's rarely the main motivator. Hobbies can be for a while but don't really compare to women in that sense unless you are lucky to find a new hobby that you love every other month. Most have plenty of hobbies, though...but it's more than documented that romantic loneliness leads to depression, which mainly consists on losing motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 11:34 AM
1

Depends. I agree it can be a red flag, but stepping out of the dating market because you have no friends...? I have been there after moving to a new city (as you already included in your exceptions) but even here after making many friends, I'm a bit introverted (with good social skills though) and don't have much interest on the majority of people I know, so I don't keep all my friendships unless they trule were friendships. Doesn't mean I'm too good for them or that I don't give a crap about an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 01:05 AM
1

You didn't want to hear it but yes, they mainly like it when it's someone attractive... though not being entirely creepy is enough to make them like it as an ego boost, assuming they aren't interested on more. Anyway, approaching is something we still do, though now it's easier with dating apps if you don't want to do it face to face. It's not necessarily frowned upon but it can be mocked or used against you at some point if you don't know how to be subtle (and friendly) enough. Male sexuality i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:55 AM
2

Because sex and romantic relationships are a really big part of life. It's indeed everywhere. That said, plenty of unexperienced people seem to thing it would solve most of their problems. The truth is that a relationship is extra work unless it's a really good and motivating relationship, and that's very difficult to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 05:09 AM
1

My point was that you can be relatively healthy and not be enthusiastic about certain lifestyles, by discarding those so quickly you are reducing your dating pool. That's what I meant when I said there's always something. That's a case of ridiculously high standards for compatibility. What if the guy likes exercising but doing different activities? What if he liked travelling from time to time but not whenever there's a freaking chance...? It's perfectly valid to not date them then, but let's no…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 10:12 PM
2

Really...? You just told me that woman is amazing, but you didn't tell me if she's happy or feeling romantically frustrated... Could it be that she has ridiculous standards because she's attractive? I'm 38 and have met some apparently amazing women in their 30's. Some certainly are amazing, and rarely single. Some of them discard otherwise perfectly fine potential partners because those were wearing a not so cool shirt, aren't particularly enthusiastic about specific activities like dancing, cro…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 05:15 PM
2

Could be, but you are judging by posts and pictures, you aren't interacting with them...they usually become more reasonable, are tired of games and want less toxic or more positive stuff in their lives, by experience they have learnt more about themselves and life. As I said though, you might find out why some are single...some will be just like aged teenagers who learnt nothing and some will be completely disfunctional after going through rough times. We can't generalize... Now, if you are talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 03:34 PM
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Depends...some 30's single women are single for a reason, and you will eventually find out... That said, everyone is better in their 30's, you become much wiser and experienced, and learn to value things differently. In that sense, women become better because they learn to value stability and a nice personality. Make no mistake, though, deep down they still respect more and feel sexually attracted to strength/power/looks. The older they get, the more they value funny and nice people in general, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 04:51 AM
1

The vast majority of men admit it, we know it. The way you elaborated the post...those redpillers are awful, what can I say... that's an awful example of why redpillers do or don't do anything... As for the sob stories...we have seen a more nuanced truth about those stories, we have learnt to empathize with them too, we have learnt to question the woman unless there's solid evidence and to see how most likely both of them were toxic/made mistakes, and lastly, we know they won't get any kind or s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 01:01 AM
3

There are female serial killers and they don't commit more crimea because they have more resources to avoid it (Imo).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 12:56 AM
0

Ok, first of all, if he's a cheater he can't be a 'top tier' man... Well, there kinda is 'justification' to the notion based on higher (and usually constant) sex drives, certain gender ideologies, even biology...but that's very minor, men can easily be monogamous and respect their partners. A man usually cheats for the sex itself, not for emotions or feelings. A woman usually cheats for more complex reasons...which doesn't make it any better, btw. I would consider it 'less harmful' for the relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 03:55 AM
1

Not much, honestly, because what I bring is mainly what a good friend brings, and that's not good enough even when there's whatever degree of attraction... I've been told I'm empathetic, honest, loyal, educated, good, handsome and funny. My life is quite a mess though, so... Even if it wasn't I'm sure they wouldn't find attractive long term, what I expect from a relationship is too peaceful to be attractive. Edit: would love to say something deeper and more unique that 'I want my partner to be p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:36 PM
2

Is this real...? I don't follow any streamers and I don't consider open marriages part of any pill, they are just an awful idea... One specific situation doesn't prove anything, that's not how science works, but we have seen it so often that we can certainly assume the redpill theories aren't wrong (though I find them exagerated, it's not all black or white).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 10:48 PM

You know what? Might be because I'm a man too, but I find it very easy to identify the kind of personality that other man have. Love bombing and attention in the short term is very common, and means nothing about how good or bad a partner might become. Women are attracted to qualities which often are an indicator of a not so good potential relationship. If he's dominant, if he's hyper social, if he's extremely competitive and ambitious, if he's shallow... isn't that a hint? Men choose really poo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 09:39 PM

In case of men, because of censorship, it's almost never a good idea to speak 'against' women, no matter what they do. Some are also stupid enough to believe feminism will get them laid, which indeed can happen but is still very dumb, just be nice and polite, you don't need to defend stupid stuff to be likeable enough... In case of women, because they have an insane allergy to agency and have been given a million excuses and encouragement to never be responsible. Ironically, that doesn't mean th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:11 PM
2

I don't disagree with your main point, this is something I realized some years ago way too late in my formerly blue pilled life, the 'ugly', rude, stupid assholes and so on that the women around decided to date always had something else that made them attractive and it wasn't just 'masculine energy'... It's a bit complicated because it's probably a less genuine attraction, Imo, compared to men with looks or a more attractive personality (not saying personality beats money+status in general, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 06:02 AM

Men aren't allowed to take power by their own hands (figuratively speaking), they will only have as much power and rights as they are allowed to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 05:53 PM
1

Intelligence, depending on how it manifests (speech, culture, navigating through life, money, status...) can be more or less valuable though it's certainly less valuable nowadays for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 02:37 PM
40

Benefits the most attractive men who now don't need to cheat on a wife or marry at all. Benefits average women who just wanted to hook up with Chads and hopefully end up dating someone above their league. Hurts attractive women who just wanted an attractive and loyal partner. Hurts average and below average men whose selling point was, at least partially, their loyalty and values (women don't need a boyfriend/husband when they can get a new man so easily).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 02:24 PM
2

Please enlighten me...how does a good jawline improves the species? Heck, even height would be questionable for the modern world...it comes with a number of potential issues. I could've 'reproduced' despite my genes but I didn't, I didn't think it was a good idea with how my relationships were working, but I have met plenty of not very fit guys who had several kids, men who are a mess and miserable now... It's very easy to reproduce if you want to. Heck, I'm not even ugly, perhaps more on the de…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 01:36 AM
1

Even knowing how the real world works, the vast majority of men still want a decent relationship or at least a sexual partner... What they might chose is not flirting or hooking up with a coworker, not having children with toxic women or not getting married too early, but as soon as he's attracted enough to a woman who wants him, you know he's going to fall for her, unless she's such a walking red flag he gets too scaried to take her seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 04:58 PM
2

I used to think that way but bad relationships can turn into really bad relationships... Some people are undatable even if you see them in a relationship. I know I'll eventually settle for a while, I always do when I go for too long without a relationship, but I also can't take advantage of anyone's feelings, so if the woman loves me and I don't then I'm leaving so she can find someone who loves her, so for me it's very long periods of loneliness and short failed relationships/hook ups here and …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 05:10 AM
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Choosing, sure...😐 Most guys would rather be in a decent relationship, those who truly don't want a relationship are the Chads who, like women, can have several pseudo relationships/sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 05:04 AM
13

That I'm not surprised at all, that's what I think, and yes, it's both downplayed and underreported by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 03:25 AM
2

If there's a woman I'm trying to seduce then I definitely feel 'threatened', but men are socialized differently, you can't be an asshole to that man because you will look ridiculous. There can be competition but it has to be 'fair'.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:13 PM
4

I'd spell that 'high value' as 'attractive'...I'd hate to call 'high value' the retards they decide to date in their 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 12:05 PM
4

They certainly are...I'm now single in my 30's and the majority of women I meet have some kind of very worrying mental illness or unbelievably complicated personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 12:03 PM
0

Because often those partners have at least some of the attractive traits and might be also handsome enough, so just like men end up wanting to date pretty girls with awful personalities, women want to date those guys. What I honestly don't really get is why they find certain traits so attractive... Excessive confidence always seemed to me like a lack of self awareness and humility... excessive assertiveness or any degree of dominance always seemed to me like being a major asshole, if you want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:52 AM
5

Social media, smartphones and economy...well, I guess cultural changes too. More than going wrong, as much as I don't like those changes, I guess they are simply how society is evolving, there always were changes to societies, they never are stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 07:15 PM

That's true to an extent but don't understimate your ability to hold an interesting conversation or make good jokes...I'm shy and introverted (though not so much lately) and have been told plenty of times that my social skills are great, it's something you can work on or develop. What I have experienced is that women initially consider me very interesting and fun to be around, until they realize I'm actually introverted and not going out literally every fucking chance I get, and that's a big tur…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 07:05 PM

Introversion in any country is a really big 'flaw' no matter what some introverts tell you...I was very introverted and became reasonably extroverted in my 30's, with a lot of hard work, my life changed in all aspects, for the better. If you are shy and introverted but independent and happy with an introverted lifestyle then that's ok, but if you want something different...most women find those men boring and being boring is a major deal breaker for them. Most coworkers won't give a shit about y…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 06:29 PM
1

That should be obvious. I don't think most women are perfectly normal, though, neither men, not at my age anyway (30's)...but yeah, for that kind of content they are gonna bring the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 01:53 PM
0

Damned if you do and damned if you don't...?for real... what's so wrong with taking your relationships seriously in your 20's? Your boyfriend/husband is not going to be against you partying in a reasonable way and doing pretty much anything you want, unless what you really want is to ride cocks (sorry to be blunt).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 08:01 PM
4

Wtf...is that true? 25% aren't straight? Doesn't bother me but that's kinda crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 01:50 PM
2

Ironically they kinda have a moral obligation to support their home country, I mean, every citizen of a country...but that's patriotism/nationalism I guess and that's very old fashioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 01:49 PM
3

Usually a terrible idea, I have done that to a degree, it doesn't make the relationship better or more likely to happen. It's never for good reasons... Last 'friend' I ended up dating was just using me for a while to feel better after a break up that I didn't even know about. We don't really talk anymore. Didn't even lead to a FWB relationship, just ackwardness, she probably doesn't feel very comfortable about it and I feel manipulated, so the friendship is ruined. Other men I know that have dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 04:28 AM
6

Based on what 😅 accepting reality has caused many men to become cronically depressed, jaded or even suicidal... It's not necessarily easier or harder for any gender, if anything, women seem to not need sex that much (though they might need romance more?). Life is hard for anyone who doesn't fit and also for those who lost the genetic lottery or were born in shitty families and shitty places... You have to fight that narrative, though. Who says you aren't valuable enough? The internet randoms who…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:36 AM
1

Almost nothing that women consider empowering is actually empowering, honestly...unless we remove dignity and morals from the picture then I guess whatever gives you an advantage in life is 'empowering'... Regarding sex work in particular, it's literally the least empowering thing a woman could ever do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:18 AM
6

There's something that the redpill kinda does wrong, though, which is underrating and even ridiculizing or shaming what 'beta' men do and represent while idealizing redpilled traits to the point both betas and alphas look like a caricature... I think this is why some bluepillers insist on their 'fantasy', because to some degree it's also true but also because the redpill basically insults them. Well, there's also the fact that many people will defend their 'value' in a competition no matter what…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 02:38 AM
4

Kinda living in their own fantasies I think, or ignoring what they don't want to understand. The world isn't entirely red/blue though, just like men aren't fully alphas or betas, everything is mixed and more nuanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 02:14 AM
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Confirmed it, but that's also because we focus on the redpilled side of the story...they also confirm some blue pills, it's not everything as extreme. However, I have to say, that for the most part it confirms red pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 01:59 AM
3

Thank you, that's very kind, I'm glad you found someone worth marrying! Guess I shouldn't give up and keep trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 06:34 PM
13

Guess I'm extremely unlucky or doing something really wrong, but it's definitely not in my head...I get used, dumped, rejected, etc, all the time...I agree subs like this make it sound like everything is crazy out there for everyone and that's clearly not the case, but it's obvious that average men are struggling a lot nowadays when it comes to dating and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 03:33 AM
6

Plenty of registered cases... A guy with an skateboard got killed fighting terrorists who were attacking women (yeah that actually happened), the Titanic, where most men were willing to sacrifice themselves and even the few who weren't got shamed to no end for the rest of their lives, and plenty of cases where a man gets killed trying to protect a random woman from an aggresor...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 03:27 AM
-1

You aren't wrong and that's practical advise, but that's not really how men work, at least not the men who are somewhat romantic, the concept of love implies sacrifice, which is also what sometimes makes people stay longer than they should in toxic relationships. I believe it happens to women too in smaller proportion. Edit: in smaller proportion nowadays. In previous generations women used to sacrifice a lot for their partners and to be willing to do it, for better or worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 03:22 AM
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As opposed to what any relatively idealist or even just traditional man would do...? I mean, while instinctually you might not easily try to stop a bullet aimed at your girl, there's still a good chance you'd do that instinctually or rationally, even for women who aren't your girl...and if you don't believe or feel like that, there are plenty of registered cases. Right off the bat I remember a Spaniard who fought with a skateboard armed terrorists in England to protect the random women around (o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 03:18 AM
0

Women can get many things for free, specially average and attractive girls but it depends on your attitude and the kind of people you associate with. It's not necessarily a good thing, it implies a lack of responsibility and maturity. It can be good when it comes from your partner who provides the best he can but also gets your love, not in exchange, but because you both like making each other happy. In the context of dates, it usually implies dating several people so you go to many 'first dates…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 02:47 PM
17

Men don't want that...they want a woman who loves them that they can love too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 08:07 AM
6

Hehe yeah Well, you know, everyone is both beta and alpha, depends on what aspects and social contexts we are judging 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 08:06 AM
14

I guess I fit in that beta male description, to an extent (seems being patient, empathetic and kind makes you 'beta' nowadays?) I sometimes prefer the woman to lead since I'm usually not super interested on the stuff around (which restaurant to go, which hiking route to chose, which movie to chose among a bunch of clearly awful movies...). Can tell you I like all types of women but of course prefer soft and nice, and I hate bossy people in general, not just women. You want to act like the boss y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:51 AM

'if muscles don't matter...' they do matter, looks in general matter, a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 06:26 PM
1

Those I met were getting attention, validation, some free stuff...I don't think they are the same but it's still a female player with a harem of men, betas or whatever...and it's really disgusting when you find out you are just part of the harem if you are a relatively emotional man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 04:01 PM
1

Because apparently they can't get the girl they want. Also, let me say that players aren't only men with harems of girls...I've been unlucky enough to date female players with harems of men, all of them had something in common, somewhere out there a guy they wanted ran away from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 03:44 PM
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I still haven't given up completely, but every 'relationship' ends up being a source of anxiety, stress and dissapointment and working without much to support feels particularly empty, that's true... I'm 'lucky' enough to get some hookups but I'd rather have a healthy relationship. Seems that's too boring for women or I'm not Chad enough, whatever...I'll surely be giving up in a year or two, the more I try the unhappier I feel.
/r/MensRights21/12/23 03:41 PM

I have never met worse men than aggresive self proclaimed male feminists... It's fine when an idealist man thinks he's feminist or what he understands to be feminist (for him, a fight against inequality and discrimination), but you have to be a particularly bad motherf***er to go full manhating radfem with cero empathy towards men. Ironically, those tend to sexualize, objectify and patronize women non stop, also displaying narcissistic behaviour in their relationships and applying equality based…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:20 AM
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And thank you for yours!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:10 AM
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To me it sounds like your husband is a very good partner so you don't need him to be making more than you, and it's impossible to deduce that no one wanted to be with you based on that detail. Most women I know don't care much about that, they want the partner to contribute finantially too but I think it's not the massive turn off some people think it is, it depends on age, goals and other factors, sometimes it doesn't even seem to matter. It hurt your feelings because that's what he wanted to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:56 AM
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Your post is very accurate and empathetic despite you feeling burnt, you summed up the core problems from which other problems are derived... We are living in a world which lies/makes no sense regarding masculinity and gaslighted/censored when expressing our discomfort. From there, every other problem can be easily explained. I understand that some of us are way too extreme (at least with words) to inspire a kind answer, but I believe those men will really appreciate a post like yours and hopefu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:37 AM
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Sounds to me that a certain kind of man is just invisible for you...you are describing the traditionally masculine (with a degree of toxicity) man, that's not necessarily your average man nowadays. Plenty of men are VERY interested on love, not just sex. Plenty have really low self esteem, and plenty are very affraid to take risks in general, specially those with very logical thinking, which is common.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:23 AM
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Did you just describe the average woman...?😅
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:07 AM
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Can't believe how hateful you are towards men...you assume the very worst from the gender with such extreme generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 03:47 AM
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Lucky you...I'm not a wife beater but emotional, vulnerable and open, that has been a turn off for many women I dated, even those who looked for those traits ended up coming back with the assholes. Maybe are the women who have outdated stereotypes?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 03:45 AM
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Redpill, makes me jaded but also makes me understand where I fail and what I do right. Keep acting/thinking purplepilled cause I was initially blue pilled...but that's ok, it works for balance. How has it improved my life? In the last two months, for instance, I hooked up/dated a bit with two girls, both were crazy, shallow, attached to their exes and made me hate myself and dating. That's supposed to be a win cause one of them was really hot and got sex with a variety of women eventhough I now …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:57 AM
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Not in my case, my grandparents admit they are tired of each other but they also claim to have lived very happy lives and happy marriages. They don't understand what's going on nowadays in the dating world. Most of their grandchildren are married and have kids so whatever is going on must be working right... Then they look at me and don't understand, because I'm the one who was going to do all of that first since I was dating the same girl, my first gf, for 10 years but now I'm the only one sing…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:48 AM
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I love your take, can't be boring if you bring funny stories, know how to listen and are easygoing! at worst it would be personalities clashing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 10:39 PM
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Interesting take... I have become more extroverted during the last years but I'd say I'm still mostly are introvert. This made me more interesting for extroverts but I feel like I end up dissapointing a lot in that sense, I'm fine with night clubs and big groups/crowds but definitely not with the frequency that extroverted partners wanted and that made me 'boring'. I can adapt and show my most extroverted side but is that my real self...? Is it so wrong if I prefer (and find more exciting) diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 10:35 PM
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Honestly...the last two women I dated kinda dumped me for that reason eventhough people tend to consider me great for conversations and very funny. What I realized is that my lifestyle/plans are actually boring and sadly have to be boring, since I'm struggling with health problems and can't really have a very exciting and active lifestyle. I mean, can do some cool stuff but not everyday anymore. On the other hand, one of my best friends has always been considered 'boring' yet he's dating a beaut…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 10:27 PM
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Honestly, it's mainly about money/stability... I have a career and my brother is always willing to work hard but in my country it's just very difficult to find finantial stability (Spain in case you wonder). I realized I'm only offered a serious relationship by women who are already doing great in that sense, sometimes wealthy women like business owners or doctors...but we have standards and an idea of how a healthy relationship should be, I might be inmature or part of the problem, but I need t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 03:15 AM
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My parents know I'm sometimes dating and know I'm a decent guy, they also know my problems in general, they probably aren't surprised when I get dumped or when I dump someone... It sucks because I'm old and my even older brother is struggling too but they seem to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 01:53 AM
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I know an autistic guy who is super succesful in dating...he's good looking and tall, tough maxed and does drugs...so basically a bad boy. Dunno if that helps, it shouldn't, but it's the case I know...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 03:23 PM
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Clearly there are more lonely men and they experience a deeper loneliness... however, in favour of women I'll say that completely unattractive men offering sex to them don't really make women less lonely, and those willing to date the women don't do much again. Women want to date someone they truly want to date, or at least someone they like enough. 100 unattractive orbiters she's not interested on dating won't make her feel a lot less lonely, though it's still much better than no woman giving y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:17 AM
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Evil...? Not at all, come on... I mean, yes, in an overpopulated world literally everyone who wanted to be parent should adopt, ideally speaking, but if not adopting is called evil then pretty much everything is evil, and that's going too far.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/23 04:07 AM
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The difference is that men are generally considered potentially violent while women aren't, eventhough plenty of men are harmless and plenty of women are very dangerous (physically too). What I don't really understand is why women showing off their bodies is still considered empowering...made sense when there was too much control from men on how they dressed or how they behaved but they have been doing whatever the fuck they wanted for decades now. (In western countries/cultures, I mean). It's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 03:42 AM
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It's 'better' but it's also up to you and your values. You should probably show your best side and avoid certain subjects that might make her reject you too early, but if it's serious stuff it's going to become obvious at some point down in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:53 PM
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Loneliness can happen to anyone but it's more prevalent among men. Ugly women also have to deal with degenerates who want to use their bodies with cero intention of knowing the person, yeah, but overall, social networks are easier to build for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 01:23 AM
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For the same reason we look at a hot girl and think 'damn it... she's living in easy mode', but we don't look at the nice but obese (for medical reasons) or severely ugly girl that no one gives much of a shit about. When it comes to average people, you have to consider pregnancy, hormones and periods when thinking about women, and they just think 'that average guy is physically stronger, he's lonely cause he insists on dating instead of building friendships, and only wants to date pretty girls'.…
/r/MensRights23/11/23 03:17 PM
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I can't bring evidence, other than red pilled evolutionary psychology theories about manliness, protector/hunter roles and so on... however, I have to say that almost every time I made myself emotionally available and vulnerable in a relationship it ruined it, making me a little bit needy or dependant with its subsequent insecurity. My personal theory (just my theory), women want men they are dating to be vulnerable so they can be manipulated and to make them more dependent on the woman, it's a …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 03:52 PM
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Women occasionally 'date' men who they aren't attracted to, which tends to end badly but yeah, women date men for several reasons not just attraction.
/r/MensRights20/11/23 02:58 AM
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How ironic...being a man, last week I got dumped by the girl I was sleeping with cause I wanted something serious and she didn't...she now ignores me but texts me pointless stuff every other day just to mess up with my emotions even more, I guess. Made the mistake on jumping back to the market to see if that would help me forget her. Got asked by the next girl if I would be ok with an open relationship... Look, plenty of guys prefer LTR, plenty of guys catch feelings too and don't want to be hur…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 02:38 AM

In the first world women need a man less than ever, so their standards often are unreasonable, you basically have to be fun to be around, physically attractive, good in bed, emotionally strong, making good money and so on...and you'd say that's basic but it actually isn't, not just among men. Most people are far from perfect regardless if they exercise, read, develop hobbies, look fine and are social... there's always going to be something, and that something might turn into a deal breaker for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 05:50 PM
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I have found myself to be way more succesful in person and during conversations (in my native language)...it's important to identify your strengths. Also, and you guys won't believe it, just by selecting better profile pictures I went from almost no matches to wtf is going on (even very attractive women). It eventually led to real dates and sometimes even sex/relationships, which I regret because people in dating apps are nuts but that's another story...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:03 PM
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I think there's definitely too much resentment from failed relationships where some bad stuff happened (cheating, addictions, abuse...) although there were good moments too, it made me cynical. Oh, and a lot of exposition to redpilled media as a cope which honestly might be affecting my mindset or at least my speech more than I expected. Feeling better now that my best female friend just have told me she doesn't consider me a mysogynist at all, but she knows me very well so I'm still worried abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 09:54 PM
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I see. Guess I'll have to not overthink these issues, there are many things I like about women and some I don't, also other things I don't like about men but it would be better to avoid the subject in general if it's just going to make my life more difficult, it has been very painful losing someone I cared about mainly for giving those vibes. I don't consider myself misogynistic but it's not worth arguing about that stuff if that's how it might impact my relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:14 PM

I think we killed male spaces, most men don't seem interested on the idea nowadays, men want to get laid/meet women...at least the majority of young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 11:46 PM
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Do you not see all what you assumed from my post...? According to you, I despise women and consider them horrible in general (can't I feel jaded about some women like most women do after bad experiences with men? That doesn't make me an enemy of all women out there) My behaviour was calmly and kindly explaining with arguments (without being condescending and after listening) to a woman I was dating that men aren't always the root of all their problems and face their own struggles too (without ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 11:14 PM
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It should be obvious. Women strongly hate monogamy if you aren't the best option around.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 05:53 PM
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Only once I have been rejected for that reason, and I'm pretty sure it could be translated as 'you aren't a good enough slave' in that particular case... couldn't even have my own fucking opinion about any subject, not just those regarding women. You women truly don't understand how fucked up it is nowadays, went from 'be open minded and empathetic' to 'don't fucking say a word about anything we do/say and be ready to be blamed for literally everything wrong in the world'.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 05:25 PM
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Depending on how you understand misogyny, but no, they don't really spend much time 'hating' women in friend groups and it usually just comes up as a joke or someone who has gone through a bad experiencie opening up. Constant and pointless misogyny isn't welcome in most friend groups, for many reasons.
/r/MensRights13/11/23 05:14 PM
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They stated long ago that any problem men are struggling with has to be causes by other men or the patriarchy, and even went as far as also stating that feminism is the answer to those issues, since feminism is about equality and about fighting the patriarchy. Among those problems we find traditional masculinity roles. So theoretically women were going to help femenine men... Too bad that in practice they won't feel attracted to these men and will even lose respect or quickly get fed up with the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/11/23 04:46 PM
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Lonely means they can't get a relationship with someone they like. To be liked by a woman you have to be average or above (depending the woman, some only like 'Chads'). This includes personality and status. If you are lonely as a man, you are probably average looking for average or maybe you are below average looking for something similar. This makes sense to you, sounds rational and fair...but women don't give a crap about what's rational and fair, they just like you or don't like you, dependin…
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 04:28 PM
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Opening and being emotional likely means displaying some of your insecurities, it's ammunition that can be used against you at some point during the relationship. Those insecurities might also turn into deal breakers early during the dating phase. Overall, the best a man can do is showing maturity and emotional intelligence...but that doesn't necessarily mean opening up or being entirely sincere. With the woman I'm currently seeing (who is honestly incredibly judgemental about her previous exes)…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 02:46 AM
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Women always have higher SMV, at all ages. It's career and money what made 30+ men higher smv but that changed decades ago. The wall is real but it applies to both genders and women remain attractive enough for people their age (and even younger), the wall is actually what we call aging... The extreme version of the wall is just another redpill exageration.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 11:06 AM
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Once you are in your 30's you will understand why you don't really want to hit on much younger women, at least not for a serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 10:56 AM
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This has always been misunderstood... As a man, you can be emotional and show weakness, what matters is if she perceives the weakness to be a potential problem for specific issues: 'I'm never going to land a decent job/ never going to finish this career'... What if he's right? You spread your insecurity and she might consider those things of crucial importance. Often, women will want you to open up and become emotional so you become more manipulable and dependant, it throws you off your position…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 01:51 PM
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You are exagerating a lot...the guy isn't attractive at all, but he doesn't seem particularly disgusting or anything like that, we were supposed to believe that a relatively ugly/unattractive man had a chance. Best I can do to defend his case as something normal and reasonable is bringing the personality argument. If he's a massive asshole and he let's them know early in the conversation then I could understand why he never had any luck. To be fair, I know some fat women who openly admit that th…
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 02:00 AM
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Omg...is that true? I mean, I know he isn't 'attractive' but the guy at least looks nice smiling and all of that...fuck, I'm probably below average too and I get matches (which rarely get anywhere, honestly...) That guy is easily a decent looksmatch for some women I've met there... though I guess looksmatch is a 'silly' concept nowadays, since it simply doesn't apply... I'm 99% of the time against the darkest and most pesimistic complaints from the blackpillers but if this guy truly swiped an in…
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 01:52 AM
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There's a considerable amount in all those places (MRA included) compared to any sub or forum non manosphere related... however, in MRA, it's a lot less ans better managed than in typical redpilled/incel/mgtow places. It's understandable that jaded men end up there too and showing some misogyny, I honestly don't think it should taint the whole reputation of those forums (specially MRA) the same way a crazy radical feminist won't taint the whole reputation of a mainly female space. To all your qu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/23 01:38 AM
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Men look for different things on partners or, better said, apply different values to those things. For the most part, women can compensate many flaws by being pretty and satisfying his sexual needs, but as always it has to be balanced. You can't just be boring, clingy, irrational, unreliable, rude...and expect the relationship to last forever just because you look ok and have enough sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:42 AM
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Depends, it could be a reason to not start dating her if she doesn't compensate with kindness and looks. If we are already dating then no, not a reason to break up, unless it implies conversation is always boring and uninteresting. If you meant hobbies and activities then I think it isn't a big deal, most men can find fun by themselves, we already have our hobbies and friends. I can see it becoming a problem if she is clingy and can't be alone, if you have to spend all the time with her and she'…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:37 AM
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Internet groups (hiking and other activities...) That's how I did it and how I also met women I dated... Far from perfect but it works. Other than that, if you work on yourself, some women won't care that much about you not having particularly big social circles as long as you show good social skills around her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:24 AM
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Because alpha fux beta bux theory, yes... It's insulting, and perhaps feels insulting for those 'alphas' too since they often aren't considered relationship material for not making the money the beta can make... Sadly, the theory is very true for a good number of cases, however, you have to remember that every man show traits from both roles, you aren't always going to be beta or alpha, depends on her options, yourself, age, her needs...
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 12:47 PM
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I wouldn't blame everything on the women, those men are often pretending to be interested and open to the idea of something more, though I know often they are honest and the woman still thinks she can change his mind through sex (sorry, that's not how it works...). If they sometimes damage themselves beyond repair that's not exclusively their fault, though I think it takes some instrospection and work to realize that those players are above your league, using you and will be at best settling for…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:34 PM
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I honestly could be fine with her past if it didn't 100% of the freaking time be a clear sign of unstability, to not use an uglier word. Have met too many of this kind to know it's always a terrible emotional investment at the very least, they are just too damaged and I hope they can heal but the first step is realizing what went wrong...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 03:14 PM
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Starting to wonder...? It's a curse, has always been, societies are more social than ever, everything you say, how you look... everything matters more than it should.
/r/MensRights27/10/23 01:05 AM
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'sexual assault of heterosexual men is largely perpetrated by heterosexual men...' Are you sure those are heterosexual men...?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 02:11 PM
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Do many guys put in their profiles that they want a non date date?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 02:07 PM
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Why the fuck do you go on 'dates' with cero intention of anything further and why on Earth would you think that's fair for the guy...?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 02:06 PM
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The irony of this comment...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 02:03 PM
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I feel tempted to say bad manners/angry attitude, but I think being 'weak' or too vulnerable might be more unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 01:17 AM
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I'm a leftist myself but I'd say the right actually cares more about you as a man than the left... Though obviously there's always going to be disagreement because of all the other subjects and some radical views on the role of women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/10/23 05:05 PM
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Equal treatment, rules and expectations would help. It's when these aren't equal that both men and women feel disrespected. From my experience, women tend to respect decent men who aren't trying to be romantic with them as long as they don't get in an argument. Women respect attractive men who are trying to seduce them (as expected). At work, women seem to respect highly educated/high earning men/men in high positions. Men seem to not respect lazy women though they seem to be a bit more tolerant…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:15 AM
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Those guys tend to be better looking...
/r/MensRights23/10/23 01:25 AM
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Keep it in moderation though, you are giving up but you never know...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:23 AM
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Dude, porn is just bad for your brain and for your relationships, as simple as that, it's not pseudocience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:20 AM
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I somehow became better even as my life was getting shittier and I was becoming older... I think that social skills matter way more than people here seem to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:19 AM
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Cool pictures fir their social media updates and party mode without witnesses (easiest hook ups in my life, honestly)...
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 10:50 PM
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If this is not a troll thread then at least change 'men' for 'most men on this particular sub', but also reconsider if what you are saying makes sense and is remotely fair... Single moms: I'm just terrified by the fact they wouldn't have given me the time of the day before becoming single moms... Does me wanting someone who genuinely likes me make me picky?? I get that people make mistakes or are unlucky, plenty of reasons a lovely woman could be a single mom, I personally might be ok dating the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 09:29 AM
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It's probably too late to fix it in your home, and perhaps too late for society too. It's a power trip, women are more powerful and privileged than ever and they will basically disrespect or verbally abuse any man to keep it that way. Seems you married someone who would do such things and then allowed your daughter to do it too, and it's reasonable, understandable, you love them, you love your wife and daughter, they know you love them, why would they disrespect you and not care about what you h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/23 02:09 AM
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It's simple. If she shows interest on you or is nice to you, you very slowly scalate it and measure her answer just to know if she's truly interested on you in that sense. Basic interest and interaction doesn't mean attraction, though. However, there are very early rejection signs too that you shouldn't miss. You tell her to share number/IG whatever social media and she comes up with an excuse or seems uncomfortable... she's not into you. You ask for a date (not necessarily calling it a date) an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 01:24 AM
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I don't know if more men than women do that, but I know that I wouldn't like that for myself and I think most men with a sense of dignity would rather date someone less hot who truly likes them. At some point in life, though, it's more about the personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 12:20 AM
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Recently I had big argument with my brother, he told me I'm a mysogynist... I asked him why he thinks that. Couldn't give me a proper answer, 'I'm... just sure you are, cause things you say'. Turns out, the things I sometimes say are never against women but pro equality...so eventually it was just left at 'you are mysogynist because when you get out of a relationship you say bitter things about dating women' 😐 Moral of the story, you can't support men's rights or openly ask for equality, that ma…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/23 03:01 AM
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Women are way more emotional, not just in the way they react (men can be very emotional too) but also in the way they perceive reality. Women will be likeable or unlikable depending on how she sees you, and how she sees you can change for the worse in a matter of minutes, because it's emotional. Anyway, lately I'm a bit tired of promoting the anti women speech...so allow me to defend them here with this theory I have: women have 'the shittiest traits' as you say, and I agree, those are traits th…
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 02:41 AM
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If that's what it shows then I probably didn't understand the post. What girl would want to be with such man...? Dunno, those I dated in the past? Those I'm matching and meeting with from Tinder? Those I meet in real life that are receptive enough to go on a date with me...? You made too many assumptions about me. Average girls see me as that, something interchangeable that she's settling for...now, how am I, according to you, supposed to see them? I treat them with respect and honesty, that's w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:07 PM
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Depending on how shallow they were, because there's a good chance at some point she might get fat again...I wouldn't blame her if she doesn't want, it's why I don't date fat women, to let them lose that weight and chose someone deserving of their love...😐 Edit: seriously now, a previously fat woman shouldn't try to date the shallow men who rejected her...maybe if there was one who treated her particularly well and had a connection but It's an stretch, just don't date people who thought were too …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:48 PM
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That makes my 18-25 past self feel a lot better about his self imposed limitations, honestly...
/r/MensRights09/10/23 04:41 PM
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Nah...just call it empowerment or something like that...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/23 04:28 PM
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Absolutely... Wish I understood when I was much younger. I think we always had that knowledge around even in media, but we were also given other versions that were nicer and choose to believe those instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:08 PM
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At 17 my gf dumped me cause a medication made me fat. Could only get a gf after losing the weight. The three next girlfriends I had, cheated on me. The irony is that before all of that shit I was really good looking, and you wouldn't believe how it was...I was instantly liked and it was even uncomfortable, they wouldn't respect my space at all. Losing what I had and the way it was... It honestly was traumatizing, though I kinda moved on at some point, I guess. I don't know if blackpilled is the …
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 04:02 PM
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We were talking about what's more attractive, not about what's easier to improve. There's no improvement for height, not even complicated and risky surgery... that's expensive, painful, and most likely not worth it if it usually comes with health problems for your future. Face can be improved in some ways, good slept, surgery, maybe accesories like piercings, a different hair style/hair transplant...not much to do about height in an effective way.
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 03:24 PM
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Honestly, times have changed and I think perhaps we even forgot how it was before... I would say young men are exposed to the internet since childhood, so they are more aware (or simply influenced by), but what are their chances of having divorced parents, for instance? From what I have seen it isn't rare even for average young men to have had a beautiful gf and at some point get totally friendzoned for years, expecting she will be reasonable and listen to her hearth...stuff like that makes you …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 01:21 PM
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That doesn't make them sound more 'human' in a positive sense, makes them sound opportunistic and implies she would kinda stop loving you the moment she stopped needing you... Anyway, you got many downvotes for saying something TRUE, but people here are talking about real physical attraction, not just relationships (which may originate for one thing or another).
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 01:13 PM
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It's very, very difficult to compensate, this is something that people need to understand. Ugly faces are deal breakers for everyone... it's the most important perhaps, but there's a threshold you have to pass in other aspects too, and if you don't, compensating with other traits is very difficult. For example, if you have an ugly face and want to compensate with money, you better have fucking loads of it, not just 'above average' or 'twice the minimun wage'. Tall men clearly have it easier but …
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 01:06 PM
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When everything is mysogynist nothing is mysogynist... This kind of silly articles only hurt women.
/r/MensRights08/10/23 12:42 AM
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Women are way more concerned about status, and race sadly still plays a bit of a role there. They however will virtue signal tolerance at every chance, but adopt a racist mindset when it comes to dating. It also makes sense if men are less racist when dating, since men mostly care about finding the woman attractive and most men find most women attractive enough.
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 12:37 AM
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Because there are differences, though personally I think promiscuous men are very harmful to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 12:31 AM
1

You would feel better if you achieved it, and healthier, and that might trigger other changes in your life so why not trying...?
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 01:35 AM
2

The way you are perceived and how attractive you are seen depends also on the place and time, with all what it implies...but I see that your point is that attractive men play with a completely different rules set. There's nothing to challenge there, I guess, you can still fuck up even if you are attractive but almost everything is allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 01:22 AM
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You know it's completely fucked up when a terrible thing is seen as some sort of privilege... So with my shitty health and almost 40 if there's a war I have to stay to die or miraculously survive hell, but that's somehow a privilege...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/23 12:59 AM
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Is it really a thing already...? I can see how a more developed AI maybe attached to a realistic doll becomes some sort of world changing event (in the dating scene) but in its current state shouldn't be enough to make it preferable.
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 02:17 PM
1

No gf currently but those I dated or had something with...had no idea about repill/manosphere stuff, some didn't consider themselves feminists and some did but couldn't explain what it meant. Wouldn't want to swap roles and considered life as a woman easier (not kidding you, all of them said this). Some didn't have anything to say (or didn't want to say anything about it). All of them prefered working with men, and most of them prefered having male friends (guess they loved attention). Anyway, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:07 PM
1

Depending mainly on your money. In theory, you have been advancing in your career, so by the age of 35-ish when you are still relatively young, decent looking, you are making more money than ever and you are experienced, wiser, likely with x5 better social skills than what you had in your early 20's... However, if that's not the case, you should be actually struggling more than before. (Though some women your age are quite desperate). Women have plenty of sexual options for most of their life, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:05 PM
1

Plenty of heterosexual incels are the same situation where the incel lesbian is, if anything, both groups should be empathetic, they are basically the same thing based on what you describe. I'm understanding that you would date anyone, regardless how she looks...right? If so, are you in a proper place to meet other lesbians, not just online but preferably in person?? I always thought (and I might be wrong here) that due to scarcity, lesbians and gay men would be more likely to date out of their …
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 12:51 PM
1

The ugliest lesbians I know have beautiful or average looking girlfriends, though I honestly don't know much about dating for lesbians. Harder than straight ugly (and non rich) men? If it truly is harder then I'm really sorry for them.
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 12:44 PM
1

Fat (depending on how much) isn't even a deal breaker for many men, but there's a limit to everything. Personally I'd say that an ugly face is worse than being fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:42 PM
1

1- The AI, as something artificial, wasn't entirely real, it treated you like a woman won't, because the AI is not a woman. If you want a woman to treat you that way (in the context of dating) lower your standards a lot and see what happens, she won't care much about your money and lifestyle... not saying you should do this, just telling you how it is. 2- Men chosing to go their own way...wtf... seriously I know it sounds cooler than 'men sent their own way' or 'men with such awful options they'…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 11:46 AM
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It's because those men would be out of the market if they started dating much younger girls, whereas older women have way less options (in theory, because now young men are dating older women too).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:01 AM
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So only the Chads and high tier normies will remain in the dating pool... I doubt women care about losing all those men that they didn't even want to date to begin with...
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 01:56 AM
1

It's true that porn harms relationships in that way, though I don't think it's the reason some men are lonely, at all, I'd even say it probably makes men more interested on sex when it isn't there, and less interested when the girl has to compete against it for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:43 PM
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Wth is cOrN...is it porn? If so, no, porn is definitely not the reason they are lonely, though porn will affect your relationships in a negative way and should honestly be avoided when dating (and even single, it still has a negative impact in your life, though you won't get blind or anything like that...)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:39 PM
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Exactly, man, it's not even entitlement, it's literally the best for everyone...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:27 AM
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Same, I'm 37 and that's what I have been doing for years and still do, eventhough life isn't easy being single at my age, I just refuse to date people I'm not attracted to. Did it in the past and it's easily one of the worst things you could ever do, in the end it's s waste of time. And that was dating someone pretty with some good qualities too, but you just can't force it, if you don't feeling consistently since the beginning then it's not happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:01 AM
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Hypergamy. Average men can date below average girls but not average girls in general (exceptions aside).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:36 AM
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This.
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 01:30 AM
1

There's something weird about painful truths. They make you miserable and can even delude you into believing that things are even worse than they actually are, but they also make you feel...wiser, more mature, and like you are on the right path of self development even if painful. Living a happy lie sounds better to me yet I don't think I'd like that for myself, out of dignity I guess.
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 01:28 AM
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Made me even more insecure, but the rage also made me work harder on myself, so now I'm more succesful dating but still not enough for the kind of girls I like (just a nice average girl, honestly, I'm not asking for more...but I still only get the types that I'm not attracted to and when it's a girl I like it's just a hook up if I'm very lucky because she isn't even staying in my town/country...those are always easier to game. Overall, I think a 'bro just try harder you can do it' would've had t…
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 01:25 AM
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Thanks. Yes, I'll keep that in mind, plenty of good women out there too, it's just people in general who can be shitty, though I don't like some of the feminist trends but as long as they have morals, empathy and compassion they are good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:11 PM
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If it's all about exploring sexual desires then it will be more complicated...if she feels that you want a serious relationship you might have a better chance. Anyway, copes are ok but you can't do that forever.
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 03:32 PM
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I can't answer for him but I want to point out that men don't look in women for the same things they look in other men, and a romantic relationship, even if casual, is mainly based on attraction. The young girl can be attractive, older women can be attractive too. Also, I suspect plenty of older men wouldn't mind having young guys as friends, and plenty do it, but it's kind of ridiculized sometimes and the older guy could be seen as childish or unable to fit in groups his age.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:58 PM
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I have no interest on them but I don't get your theory...the 18 woman is hot and young, and likely funny. The 18yo guy is perhaps too inmature, so is she, but I wouldn't be dating her for her maturity, wisdom, cooking skills and knowledge about reforming the dinning room. Btw, I'm 37 and friends with 18yo men (sons of my female friends), I can teach them some things and I absolutely beat them in any video game, I'm too childish myself 🙈 The truth about age gap relationships is that they are less…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:52 PM
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Women will always ask and demand for more because doing so is free, you lose nothing, and they have heard so many times they are princesses who deserve a prince that it might be true...but they aren't stupid, eventually they more or less know what their value compared to other women might be. This is particularly obvious online but not so much in real life. In the end, plenty of women are ok dating someone who initially wasn't what they claimed to want, they just do that...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:42 PM
1

If it's to live on easy mode then straight woman. I'd chose straight male though since that's who I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:57 PM
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Artificial wombs, sex bots, gf AI and shit like that...they don't matter, those things are Mgtow stuff and 95% of them are incels in denial, those were ignored by women to begin with, of course artificial wombs won't hurt women, if anything, they will help the women who want to do it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:46 PM
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Any feminist speech where they deserve/need privileges that men don't enjoy, supposedly to compensate, though the issues they compensate are imaginary.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:41 PM
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Same with women, if you had to lower your standards for her the relationship is not really going to work and eventually will fall apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:39 PM
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Seems that you are very happy not being married, so don't marry, I guess. Edit: just please...do not look for a husband if something goes wrong in your life, ok? You should marry for love and companionship not to improve your life, that's what we expect so don't use us, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:35 PM
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Lol ironically I even selected a couple feminist subjects at college and passed them with the highest grades. I remember making a job about how women had been discriminated in the past in the science and arts fields, and another one about mysogyny on Tv ads... It's funny that I turned in such a villain in the end. No laboratory accident, just a cheating gf, a female drunk driver, an abusive gf and the one who was my friend but got me kicked from my job by convincing the other guys they would hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:01 AM
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Sounds like you are going through the experiences of an average man...
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 03:54 AM
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Oh well, you are fast learner, took me 30+ years interacting with women to understand them (and disagree with most of their feminist beliefs)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:51 AM
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Yes, that's quite literally what most definitions claim it to be about, and definitely not what feminism is about...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:38 AM
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I do say it here in case it helps preventing those things to happen... I can't ask that to my friend females, they already think I'm a mysogynist (not sure why they still hang out with me if that's so bad) but all I do if they come up with abuse stories is support their views, they are my friends, I'm not supposed to tell them ugly truths or 'I told you's, I'm supposed to support them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:38 AM
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Don't you girls leave the feminist academy being fully and permanently indoctrinated about the evil gender?? Didn't think it required some maintenance, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:25 AM
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You aren't a feminist then, and that's not a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:21 AM
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That's not what feminism is about, sorry...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:21 AM
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Well, that's probably one of the reasons though hopefully not the only one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:19 AM
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Watch out, the next time you have consistent social communication at first you might accidentally talk about Chads, Stacy, pills, incels, heightism and average faces or something like that. The good thing is your friends won't even understand what you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:18 AM
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That's not what I would tell them AFTER getting raped, obviously, I'm not a psychopath. I would certainly regret not telling them that BEFORE, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:37 AM
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Men don't rape women. Some (few in civilized places) rape. You can try to avoid those men and those situations or you can go and tell them to stop being like that if you spot them. Saying that men in general are rapists when the good men are actually the only reason you can have a relatively safe life (because let's face it, they are the reason the rapist is not going to your home) doesn't sound like a great idea. Every day, I see more and more good claiming to be fed up with radical feminism, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:16 AM
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I'm telling you ugly truths, I'm warning you about human nature (or male nature here specifically if you prefer) when morals and conscience aren't there, when people chose to be animals, or to be humans in its worst and most primitive aspect, to be selfish to the point where everything and everyone else is just a tool to be manipulated and used. Essentially, what truly makes a person evil and bad for any society, a society which is lacking more discipline and sense of community every year, a soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:01 AM
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I never said that being a rapist was better than being a perfect victim... I do treat rapists as rapists, but I need evidence to treat anyone like a rapist... I lecture both, if I see a man being a rapist you can be sure he is not getting away with that...just let's not lecture men like they are rapist until they prove to be rapists, ok? I never said I liked the way the world is, I'm just being realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:31 PM
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It's hilarious that you made so many assumptions about me just for being a man...for your information, in the past I was SA (violently) by a woman. I have been robbed at knife point by men like...3 times when I was under age...and I could go on but it's ok. I get that you want to have fun and of course it's not your fault if there's a criminal. The problem is that we give you realistic advice and you girls still want the world to be lala land... it's not, sadly it's the way it is. And something …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:26 PM
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Yeah well, I don't really see much difference between average looking girls nowadays but of course going for a different type would be better if possible if only to try something new which might work...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:19 PM
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Come on...if that's what's going on at the frat parties why the fuck would you go there without a good friend or avoiding drinking too much...? Yes, I get it, no one is saying those criminals shouldn't be punished, we are just saying you should not fucking do that (go alone to a frat party and get super drunk).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:01 PM
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So what's the plan...getting raped and then complaining about men in general? No, sorry, go ahead with that if you want but don't put any responsibility on me and my gender, put the responsibility on the criminals and realize you should've done things differently. I'm not saying they both (the victim and the criminal) are responsible, there's no crime without a criminal, but stop being dumb feminists and start realizing how the world works, ffs...I get no benefit from that, it's 100% sincere adv…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:58 PM
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Ok, I'll stop raping...will also tell my brother, my father, my uncle and my friends to stop raping...happier now? It's a bad decission to rape someone. It's also a really bad decission to go out there like rapists don't exist while simultaneously complaining about so many men being rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:51 PM
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I'd execute him IF GUILTY, what's so difficult to understand?? Also, no, it's not a crime, it just has a relatively high chance of being a bad idea, can't you just avoid bad plans and stop complaining about how you are not having a life because of evil men...? There's a really amazing place near the sea I can't visit because of evil men living there...do you know what I do? Yeah, I avoid it, I go to a different cool place. Frat parties can be ok if you know the people you are partying with, take…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:46 PM
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Kinda wrong there about pedophiles, not really the vast majority though most of them are (and they'd be more if they were typically working with kids). Women rape too, though I'm ok with making it mostly gendered, just don't pretend that's something 'men' do, the vast majority of men don't do those things in civilized places.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:27 PM
1

Do you mean lowering physical beauty standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:25 PM
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Both, the irresponsible girl and the caveman who I'd have executed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:23 PM
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Hahahaha...🤣 that's exactly the opposite of what would happen!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:06 PM
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Men in general don't rape, some men (and some women) in particular, do rape. Don't generalize men being rapists, that's unfair, stupid and unacceptable, and if you believe we are then be careful and sorround yourself with good, trust worthy people?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:02 PM
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It does indeed answer your question. You want no consequences for women in specific circumstances, and punishment for whoever did wrong...but you are being delusional if you expect that to work in every context. If I wear a gold watch, unnarmed, alone in the worst neighbourhood, I'm probably getting robbed, and perhaps getting stabbed. I can then demand justice (if I'm alive) but justice is very unlikely to happen, they probably won't catch the criminal, not find my watch and won't get any sort …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 01:59 PM
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This is what they simply refuse to accept. They absolutely have to drunk hook up with drug dealers in a neighbourhood where the police don't even dare patrol, and if something bad happens it somehow is men's fault because the psychopathic piece of shit she ended up hooking up with is a man and we are just victim blaming if we explain that we don't hang out with those guys in those neighbourhoods because bad stuff would happen to us too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 01:51 PM
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You are comparing having a console to get drunk as fuck in a frat party around men you probably were interacting with. Live her life... ok, look, you are not special. The world wasn't made for you. You have no more rights than other people. There are consequences to our bad decissions and if something bad happens, all we can hope is that there's justice, but you should prevent bad stuff from happening. You can live your life without getting drunk as fuck and hooking up with randoms in an after, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 01:47 PM
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Consent, which doesn't need to rely on the word 'yes' (if I think I should kiss a girl and she kisses me back she's is consenting, unless I somehow have intimidated her, and that's the difficult part to prove and where it gets more nuanced, it's often why men play safe and ask or wait til the signals are really obvious). Mistreatment, if a woman wants to have sex with me and then I decide to be an animal and treat her like my sex slave, then despite the initial consent, I can see how she would f…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 01:25 PM
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Many, many things... In the 1st world, most of their benefits come from the fact that many men support feminism, and this is mainly due to how, in one way or another, most men are manipulated by women. If the truth was revealed, everything, not just dating but everything would have to change since the support from men (the rest of society) is necessary.
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 03:27 AM
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In my case because it took me too long despite all the clues being there. I avoided reality and that made me a coward, not to mention the pain after the failures and the wrong decissions. My life would've been different and better if I knew and the fact that society sent mixed contradictory messages didn't help but it was me who wasn't smart and brave enough. In general terms, though, manipulation of the individual is despicable and questionable when the goal isn't necessarily good, eventhough a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 05:42 PM
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I'm no incel or IncelTear bully but I'm pretty sure that's exactly who they are, men who should've been incels but settled for whatever they managed to find and are absolutely terrified of being considered incels.
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 03:37 PM
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I don't know most of those but I can see how it's certainly finished. Everything has been said and people are increasingly aware of the redpilled theories.
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 03:24 PM
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If it's not a downgrade then why do most young and attractive women prefer to date the bad guys and usually only settle with the nice guy much later in life when she wants a family? Wouldn't this confirm some red pill theories?
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 10:52 AM
1

Well, no, actually your own government will force you to protect them in case of war and there are already longer sentences and different legislation to ensure they are better protected than men. It's also supposedly a way of attracting them (it's not, though) so men will just do it.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 10:45 AM
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There's a limit on how much I can change to become more attractive. I got in good shape, started dressing better, developed social skills, I'm relatively popular in my social circles. I learnt to dance music I don't like. I learnt to like places and activities that I didn't like. I stopped doing things I liked... I keep attracting the below average women with severe mental issues, I now just get some more attention from average women but not enough to date one. There's nothing else I can change …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 02:52 AM

Musical chairs... Time to settle and rise kids, this docile functional and attentive man will do. Don't understimate a very valuable trait that people here seem to mock all the time, servilism or submission. If he's willing to paint the house, do the groceries, cook, do the laundry, bring some more money to the table, find cool movies and series to watch, get you the drinks in the pub, drive your bestie home because she can't drive (and has no intention of ever learning) and pick up your parents…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 08:34 PM

Where did you get the 'women aren't worth the effort' and entitlement part...? Most guys seem quite desperate to be romantically involved with a somewhat attractive woman (not just sex). If anything I'd say they idealize women... Also, modern women being worth the effort is honestly very questionable when they demand so much and sacrifice so little...You might be perfectly fine with sharing the chores and not being controlling, yet expecting the bare minimun from them seems like asking for a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 07:42 PM

A functional adult my ass... there are plenty of adult women and men without a house (their own house), without a reliable car, without good social skills, without culture, fat, poorly dressed and so on...even a mix of all of that. The average guy isn't enough because the average guy hardly could improve her life in the most basic or superficial ways since it takes nowadays two salaries to pay the rent...if she can pay it herself, she'll look for someone hot with better social skills. If she can…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 07:37 PM
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'Just be yourself ' = be honest and transparent so you can be rejected faster but also be spotted easily by the few broken women looking for a broken man, though hypergamy still applies there. That's how it's both a good and a bad advice. People should learn to create nice profiles for dating apps and social skills for both dating apps and real world. It's not about being yourself, it's about showing the best version of yourself. Let's say you spent the whole day playing video games, but yesterd…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 01:33 AM
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Why that obssesion, though? Unless it's very closely influenced by your religious beliefs a woman with a relatively low number of exes should be fine, if not ideal... Anyway, the only virgin I dated (we were 30, btw) was a nerdy girl who happened to have some autism and anxiety problems... apparently I was the first man to make her feel safe enough. Her issues made her dump me a couple times in a row and when I warned her there wouldn't be a third and she still did, she spent a year trying to ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 01:15 AM
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Good luck trying to stop one of the most powerful industries in the world... I agree with most of what you say, and men should definitely quit porn and gaming for absurd amounts of time, among other things they should stop doing...but more than the cause I think this is the effect, and only they can stop those copes, telling them won't have any effect.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 01:07 AM
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NO to... everything, right...? So what's even the point on pretending to care about men's struggles?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 08:51 PM
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I have had women pressuring me to not accept specific men in our social groups...you girls are just way too fucking awful to men that you don't like in one way or another... Male loneliness is mainly a male romantic loneliness epidemic, it's not just social networks, family and friends, it's going for years without romantic relationships (and no, I'm not talking just about sex). Edit: what we expect women to do? To consider dating normal guys too? To not waste our time so we can find someone who…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 07:35 PM
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It's because women always have options and, while not necessarily great, those probably are still much better options than what average-ish men get (not to mention real incels). I get what you mean and understand your frustration, dating someone who feels disgusting or even dangerous and makes you feel totally uncomfortable shouldn't be considered an option...but still, it's just a whole different universe. Some of my female friends pretend to be some sort of femcels while getting attention from…
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 07:21 PM
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That's just a misunderstanding. A femcel is a woman who perhaps could get sex but what she wants is a committed relationship. A woman who can't keep any man, IF she has tried with below average men too, is a femcel. A woman who fails at making slightly above average men date her is basically the equivalent of a 'volcel'.
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 07:04 PM
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Hmm...as a good amount of them for sure, yet most men seem to have a bit more of variety when it comes to hobbies, tastes and opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 01:06 AM

Used to think I'd sacrifice myself if necessary, but nowadays I will just help anyone the best I can without risking much. I do believe a good man should help a random woman, but that's also what my brother believes and he now has a broken jaw and the woman he helped keeps fucking and dating her abuser, so... well, definitely not the time to have this kind of mindset. As a man you would probably forever remember whoever risked his life to save you. Pretty sure the modern women would forget about…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 01:04 AM
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Be glad we don't care who a woman is at all because if we did...god, I'm just gonna stop here, but open your eyes and mind and realize how many women are generic, superficial and irresponsible as fuck... And no, we don't care much about your money and career, we should if we were more evolved but sadly we aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 12:53 AM
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You know that plenty of decent men will absolutely idolize her if she's just beautiful, and endure all sorts of drama and boredom if necessary. That's, in fact, your average young woman: beautiful with barely any personality and hardly fun to be around. And this is not my mysogyny speaking, you know this is true... can in fact be applied to a lot of men too, those who have like one social hobby, watch generic mainstream stuff, listens to what everyone else's listens to and maybe read a best sell…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 12:50 AM
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The spark is, as you said, just attraction, but it's more nuanced in women because factors like money (fun, safety, stability), social circle (again more fun, stability and opportunities)... most men, on the other hand, won't care much if her social circle is big, small or nok existant, if she makes lots of money or few money... So the spark is: I want a relationship with this man, or just sex if he's only physically attractive and I'm in that mood. Men who fail at seducing a woman aren't always…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 12:45 AM
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Because some exceptions aside, they usually don't look conventionally attractive in the way a white man would look, and I guess conventionally attractive depends on how men look on magazines and movies, where you mostly see white people or mixed races.
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 03:14 PM
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2,3,4 and maybe 5th are potentially the same guy. It's just attractive men vs unattractive but dad-husband material men. (Provider).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:52 PM
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Is this serious...? I used to blame my luck, then as I grew older I realized those men often had a good job and were willing to totally adapt to the girl (travels, luxuries, doing most of the chores...) also, he probably met the girl at the right time so there's definitely some 'luck' involved. Regarding your last question I don't go for women who already have a partner, that's shitty, though so many people do it lately I think it's stupid and naive from me but I'm not going to change my values …
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 12:41 PM
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Games are addictive and take a lot of your time, women want your attention and time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:19 AM
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Doesn't really matter if they position themselves in the left or right spectrum, no side is offering them a solution. Eventually they will chose whatever side and physolophy fits better with their ideals and goals, and equality won't be a factor to chose. The right has a similar speech regarding men's issues or at least a similar conclusion: it's your fault for being yourself, you should be more X and less Y, stop doing A and start doing B. And it probably won't change anything. Now, if you see …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/23 03:10 AM
1

Most women need attention and validation, though not necessarily from men and by posting selfies on IG.
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 02:43 AM
1

Within the next decade it's probably going to be the same. For a change we would need to revert the current factors like the state of economy, social media, feminist policies... The things that I'm expecting to eventually happen, at some point, which might influence dating, but will likely take more than a decade: technologies like virtual partners (I'm talking about very advanced technology) and widely accepted polyamory.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:41 AM
2

Exactly. And women are allowed to react in some extreme ways if feeling threatened...
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 11:54 PM
2

Society didn't condition women to be particularly nice to ugly or average men. Men are told to treat women well, and to be particularly empathetic with less attractive but still emotionally vulnerable women... We could also get into a 'redpilled' discussion about instinctual behavior, attraction, evolution...but that's not necessary, it's enough by knowing what happens to a man who hits another man and a man who hits a woman (not saying we should be allowed to beat them, just providing a extreme…
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 11:53 PM
7

Ugly men are in fact more likely to value their partners as long as it's someone he remotely liked... if you meant an ugly guy having a chance with someone attractive for the first time in his long life then I guess they'd be more likely to cheat...?
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 11:48 PM
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Women are kinda allowed to be even racist and homophobic if they want, at least in some context.
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 11:45 PM
1

Because for the most part it doesn't matter and it doesn't fit with the conventional beauty standards. A woman looks well in heels, a man looks weird with giant boots. A woman looks well with make up, a man looks weird and less masculine. Other things like surgery or hair transplant work well, though it's judged if you reveal the truth, I guess. There aren't many options for men unless we are talking about surgery. What a man can do, however, is wearing expensive stuff like a gold watch, an expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 11:43 PM
3

Do they? I'd say regardless if they are made fun of or not, it's effective. A woman with breast implants becomes more attractive, for example (at least visually).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 11:37 PM
1

Purple pilled.
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 03:38 AM
1

More like a tactic to convince them about monogamy and commitment, Imo. As a tactic it simply doesn't work, women just lie about it when they are interested on the guy, and don't care much about what the other guys could say. Ultimately, a man will date a woman he likes and is physically attracted to. Nothing else matters unless it's something very extreme, a having a number of past sexual partners isn't too extreme unless you want to marry her, and if she's attractive, funny and fucking you rig…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 03:16 AM
1

Very few men truly have good options, the majority of men just get what they can and promiscuous past won't make you think 'fuck...I liked her sooo much... now I'm disgusted!' Women are doing everything they nowadays because they can get away with it, they have power to do that, it's how it works... Also, don't understimate sex, it's perhaps the most convincing argument to get into a relationship. All those examples you are giving...were they single moms or just had had previous partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 08:36 PM
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If their solutions are 'cope with walks', ''cope with sports' and 'text a friend' I'm not surprised there isn't much activity... Not necessarily wrong advice but that adds nothing and isn't very thought provoking.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/23 10:10 PM
1

You know that some people's brain just don't work the same way...it you remove their places, their 'safe spaces', and censor their speech (though certainly some extremes are unacceptable) you will only get them more frustrated and that's bad for everyone.
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 03:07 PM
1

Why would you take those words seriously...and why do you reduce it to sex...? I'm no incel but it's not difficult to understand that they are frustrated people, and that's how some frustrated people speak. Sure, some will be violent and dangerous, but most won't.
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 03:01 PM
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I suppose it exists though it's sometimes difficult to identify and isn't for everyone. Anyway, is this thread serious?🤣 'I'm only looking for love...just need a 7, I don't care about big boobs and ass'🙈 (nothing wrong with this but it just sounds funny)
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 11:47 PM
1

It's a way of potentially causing a first good impression, assuming you know what you are doing, and show yourself as available and sexual. There are many contexts where you don't want to be flirting, though, so I'd say you should only flirt with your targets and in moderation. Much PUA advice is shitty or designed to work with the lowest education girls around...being always flirting could repulse a girl you otherwise had a decent chance of seducing, though I guess it won't be worse than never …
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 04:03 PM
1

Not the same potential danger short term, honestly...imagine getting pregned from a guy who doesn't give a shit about you and is using you for sex. I don't know who complains more, though, we both do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 10:59 AM
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To be fair, Stacy and even Becky get away with all sort of stupid and unethical behaviours... I get why it is more annoying in this case but still.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 09:21 AM
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Well, if you are perfect and understand her and every situation 100% right, you won't get divorced...right? Or at least there will be a lower chance, so... Yeah why the fuck no, let's put some more responsibility on ourselves!! (And then we wonder why male suicide rate is so high...)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/23 08:17 AM
1

I'm not surprised by the looksmatched couples, I'm more surprised (not really at this point) by all those couples where the guy is a Chadlite and the girl is invariably fat with a relatively ugly face...
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 11:11 PM
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Try telling to people in person...almost everyone, like 99% of them, will agree it's very real. Even a lot of women will agree it's real. Go check on social media, Tv, big companies, governments...there it's where misandry isn't real. The people in power are the only people who disagree.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/23 11:04 PM
1

Women often make the first move or at least make it clear so you can make it, but this is when they are truly interested.
/r/MensRights30/08/23 12:40 PM
1

They remind me what I lost or what I can't find, it's complicated.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 12:26 PM
2

Yeah and that's cute, my parents do the same, have been together for about 40 years, but it doesn't mean there shouldn't be balance. My father has plenty of time for his hobbies too, and my mother reads, watches Tv or hangs out with her friends, they still have time to share life and be a couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 03:55 AM
1

I'm not an incel but I'm relatively unsuccesful in love and both songs and movies about love are painful to me.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 03:14 AM
3

The murder part is called 'extended suicide' by the media in my country when a woman does that...and of course it's always considered a victim of abuse/mental illnesses.
/r/MensRights30/08/23 03:10 AM
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That's not always the case... Men are basically forced to compete with each other for everything they might want. What happens is we have some sort of code, of widely accepted rules (women too but their code is different)... A man won't allow himself to treat a new man as competition just as early, and won't allow himself to use dirty tricks and lies. Also, a man can empathize more easily with other men. When they aren't competing, a man can learn from other men and can form a very healthy frien…
/r/MensRights30/08/23 03:00 AM
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I was talking about dedication in a relationship, asking a partner to 100% focus in the relationship is too much, there should be balance, time is valuable and everyone should keep most hobbies. Regarding sex, there are ways to make it less risky.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:58 AM
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Of course, that's totally understandable... though I believe plenty of men see the person sooner than later when interacting with other people, women included. Anyway, not sharing your life with people who don't care is the right move.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:55 AM
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Supply and demand, yeah, but I would never mistreat a woman like that, treating her like a product or an employee... Glad your vibrator is so efficient, I guess, but I'm sure you'd rather share your life with someone who cares about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:42 AM
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I see nothing wrong with that...but we are asuming here everyone respects everyone else, why is the man expected to seduce her by making her the only priority literally every week for the rest of his life? Balance should be possible but women often push way too far when it comes to the man having his own time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:25 AM
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Jane gets sex, companionship, emotional support and, to an extent, financial and other forms of support too. Not every man can be rich...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:15 AM
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There's a difference between things you enjoy, things you absolutely love, and things and you'd be doing forever whenever you had the chance. Men don't necessarily lie about what they like, and knowing if he's lying is very simple. Anyway, it's funny to hear this from women when they are the ultimate chameleons... 'yes I'm a gamer girl' (plays Sims and mobile games 15 minutes a week) 'yeah I'm a rock & roll girl' (listens to the most mainstream music 90% of the time, wears a Metallica T-shirt to…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:11 AM
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Do you realize he might enjoy those things but also other things too...? At some point the sense of own self, the individual, has to be in balance with the relationship. We aren't slaves and you are being way too greedy if you expect a man to be the perfect boyfriend for several years, at some point he should also have room to be himself and to have his preferences. Doesn't mean he shouldn't be doing things you enjoy too, but it's just how you should have the right to focus on different things f…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:53 PM
1

It would explain a smaller disparity but not a massive difference. The Chads' harem actually makes way more sense than 'my bf doesn't know we are actually dating', that's insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:25 PM
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Those women would've to be literally insane to believe they are dating a guy they havn't have had sex with (heck, or at least kissed...?). The answer isn't elusive at all, the answer is just ugly... It's likely that many women are dating the same top 20ish% guys, knowingly or not, and it usually takes no time for a woman to get into a relationship. Often, they won't even break up before finding the new partner. I don't think that age gaps and LGBT relationships would explain such a big disparity…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:23 PM
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Is there any data about that? I mean, it surprises me a bit that men are more likely to not report relationships when they also brag more about having a sexual life, which a relationship would prove. Wouldn't men happily claim to be in a relationship when asked? Specially if they don't have to explain who they are dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:15 PM
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Well, men 65+ die much earlier, it could explain it. Jesus...if we have to wait to be 65+ to see some sort of balance...🙈🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:13 PM
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That's definitely therapeutic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 10:58 AM
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Does it make a difference...? It's good to know most aren't ugly but women clearly go for the better looking guys (no personality bs here, please...). I know I'm not ugly but that doesn't change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:28 AM
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How is that not a massive privilege...? Of course the outcome in the worst scenario (not even trying to please her) isn't desirable but it's still a privilege that you have so many options (there's a chance some of those are actually good options).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:24 AM
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Men and women aren't the same, we tend to do things differently, though it's not true that men don't do what you described, many of them do it. You considering friendships more meaningful than relationships already speaks volumes, honestly, a relationship is supposed to be a friendship with sex, romance and shared responsibility, that's by default way more meaningful than a friendship... There's also the(usually) higher sex drive... Your advice is good, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:56 AM

Yeah it's how you say, man... When I see women online essentially describing me, I always try to remember that those women are probably telling the truth but probably aren't swimming in attention unlike more attractive women. It would make sense then that they wanted an average good guy... Though there's also a good chance they just vastly underestimate men in general and slightly more attractive men are still almost invisible and not very valuable for them...to be honest, most of the attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:46 AM
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'Dishonest' relationships cause DB but also routine. If you are only having sex with your partner to make him/her happy, eventually you'll stop doing it, specially when you are married with children and It feels like you have finally beaten that relationships game. Marriage with children seem to be a completely different game. Attraction is key, we all know it's key for a working relationship it has to be there to at least some reasonable degree. Unless both are perfectly fine with the situation…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 04:07 AM
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More like humble bragging she's likely just resentful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 04:00 AM
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1- Plenty of men settle for the first woman who wants to be with them. Being in a relationship with literally anyone isn't difficult unless you are incel, and average =/= incel. 2- Plenty of seemingly average men are actually very wealthy and you won't necessarily see it. This could be the early 20's guy with a massive house in the beach (owned by his parents), a car he doesn't pay for and a flat/house in the best spot in the city. 3- yes, some average guys are lucky enough to be with a decent g…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:56 AM

That's interesting...I agree women seem to be way more independent in that sense while we keep chasing the carrot at the end of the stick. Is this really a bad decission or just something natural and relatively unavoidable from men, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 02:41 AM
1

If you were bisexual (consciously or not) I guess it can make you turn more on the gay side... Despite that porn, do you find men in real life attractive? Do you find masculine men attractive...?
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 01:22 PM
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Around women who need empathetic men around, yes. Around everyone else, you won't get very far.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 11:55 AM
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Dude, it really is frustrating sometimes...like you can see yourself in the mirror before leaving the house that you are kinda fit, have decent face and hair, nothing unattractive to remark, got new cool clothes and women talk to you, laugh at your jokes, seem to give you attention over the other guys around, yet they are almost never interested enough. That's, of course, after doing daily exercise, a healthy diet, studying/working, developing decent of even good social skills, maybe some hobbie…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:56 AM
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This is honestly a big deal...I'm glad for them, they have that tool to wildly increase their attraction level, but if it's seen as a competition it's basically a cheat code (doesn't necessarily have to be seen as a competition, though). I agree not enough attention is given to this subject.
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 12:38 AM
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You don't really get that far with that blue pilled attitude. Being able to provide 'fun' is inmensely more valuable than providing extra empathy. Attractive women are getting more than enough empathy for free. Sorry, can't buy your argument. I have volunteered, displayed empathy and helped people in need plenty of times in my life...it only helped seducing (as a side effect, that's not why I do those things) insecure women, it never seemed to help seducing an average or moderately attractive wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:34 AM
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Not necessarily easier for ugly people but considering yourself to be objectively and moderately attractive yet invisible is a freaking pain. Moderately attractive women are going to show interest at some point and then be flaky, and if you fuck up a relationship or a good chance you are 'forever' going to feel sad about it because, well, it's not really forever, but it can still take really long to find someone again. It just feels like that kind of happiness and satisfaction are right there in…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:26 AM
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This is a very interesting theory and I agree with it. Being slightly above average obviously isn't hell and is still much much better than being below average, but it brings its own set of problems that often go unnoticed or underestimated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:19 AM
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Trust me... sometimes they approach simply for attention and ego boosting, it's unbelievable...if you look like a 'safe' guy who won't hurt them they will do it a lot. It's also a way of collecting orbiters that can eventually be upgraded to boyfriends if necessary.
/r/MensRights24/08/23 12:51 AM
3

Of course there is, you will eventually find yourself again and you will realize you are even cooler than before, man, you got this 💪
/r/MensRights24/08/23 12:49 AM
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Top 10% men know very well what they can get away with. No reason to marry for them, their partners can beg for marriage and nothing will happen if they refuse. Top 10% men play with a different rule set.
/r/MensRights24/08/23 12:40 AM
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Many of them would still date if they could, but they can't or their options are atrocious. In that sense, many aren't honest about it. This doesn't mean they aren't right when they say dating has changed and might not be worth it nowadays, though I wouldn't say it isn't worth it, more like it most likely won't be worth it unless you are lucky, and luck here is a wide concept because it's not just your genetics or being in the right place at the right time, there are many things, some of them ou…
/r/MensRights24/08/23 12:37 AM
2

For a relationship yeah, for a hook up, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:22 PM
1

I was 'a Chad' when I was really young (til 15yo) and then became average-ish... I'm 37 and I'm still kinda traumatized for losing that power... I wouldn't want to be Chad for a day and then get back to my normie boring life, honestly.
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/23 10:42 PM
1

I don't think those men are wrong but I think they (purposedly) worded it wrong. Women, generally speaking, don't want to be with guys who make them feel unsafe, but a dangerous (to everyone else) man can be attractive and it certainly seems to be considered masculine... What makes a woman feel safe? A man who knows how to listen...? A man who wouldn't hurt a fly...? An intellectual with a good heart...? A physically weak but loyal provider...? Seems to me that women like men who are perceived t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 10:31 PM
1

It can be, depends on the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 11:36 AM
1

I don't know if I'm ready but I assume it's most likely my fate. I have had partners, for many years, at different points of my life, but those weren't what I wanted for a relationship and now that I'm older and my situation is worse I'm starting to think that I should stay true to my ideals, not gonna make anyone waste her time and I'm not going to waste mine, whatever awful future that means. I'm not settling out of fear, I don't even find it ethical even if the partner is fine with that. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 03:42 AM
3

Men probably do a lot more or 'emotional labor' nowadays in relationships...
/r/MensRights16/08/23 03:20 AM
2

Why would they go against their own interest?
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/23 01:44 PM
1

Not reading the article...I already know she's just demonizing all men to try to sell something and make money.
/r/MensRights10/08/23 01:40 PM
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Now reverse the genders and realize the massive hypocrisy of current society... Also, yes, it's sexual harassment, and her pride is now hurt cause she feels now rejected so she's going to try to make you feel pressured for a while and then miserable. Look at the bright side, though, at least you aren't the husband...
/r/MensRights10/08/23 09:20 AM
1

It works how it works, but I'm not a big fan of having almost no power by default and having to jump through hoops just to be in a similar level.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:12 PM
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I know, that's why I worded it that way. If there's some level of interest then no, but if you are sure about it then it's an annoyance at the very least. We all know that attraction changes all the rules. Prime Brad Pitt could be doing literally everything wrong and most of those things would be considered cute. A handwriten poem from fat sweaty coworker? Creepy as hell. Same poem from attractive fit new coworker? So cute...! It's how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 11:32 AM
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And neither of those but I prefer the youth of the 20yo... I'm 37 so both 20 and 50 are kinda far from my age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 11:28 AM
1

Fat 20yo and it's not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 11:25 AM
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I'd feel lucky? Edit: playing hard to get and making everything more subtle triggers more attraction, but in the end, the relationship will be the result of your real personalities, experience and compatibility. By making it so obvious, she's saving me time and drama, and boosting my confidence. If I'm not interested, though, she's being creepy and annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 11:06 AM
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The irony is that when women are treated like equals they fall into the deepest depressions...
/r/MensRights08/08/23 04:53 PM
6

Sounds very good to me but I'm affraid plenty of people won't even try to understand... Be safe, and congrats anyway, I admire your commitment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/23 12:20 AM
1

Results...? I hate men comes with supportive articles and threads. I hate women comes with thousands of articles telling you how wrong you are and how it's everything your fault. Could aswell generate cero results, would be healthier.
/r/MensRights08/08/23 12:14 AM
2

Well, that's true. I know some white girls who claim they would never date a non white guy, though ironically a few of them ended up dating non whites...
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 11:29 PM
2

Technically it makes you racist (I don't think you are, but you know how it works...) It goes beyond the preference, it's also the stereotypes that they have but won't admit in public.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 11:20 PM
2

Depends. Those women want the white man because of the supposed wealth he has or a passport to a rich country. If the guy fails to look like he can provide those things, he's not getting a relationship or sex unless she's a prostitute... I admit it would be very easy though, you just have to act like you'd marry her, that's all she needs to be interested, you don't even need money.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 11:19 PM
2

They are actually very secretly racist... Edit: most won't admit the preference. Virtue signaling.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 11:11 PM
1

You need some money (or lies)for that, it's not by their looks that they get laid.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 11:02 PM
0

Come on...😅
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 10:59 PM
3

'Just stop going after White girls' you nailed it, white women are incredibly picky...
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 10:58 PM
2

Didn't need statistics to know this.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 10:52 PM
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Worse...men like your father are now considered pushovers/doormats and even mocked by some girls.
/r/MensRights07/08/23 09:46 PM
1

Yeah I have been robbed with a knife a few times since I was 15 in my first world country...I'm not sure the walking alone at night without pepper spray works...heck, had I used pepper spray I'd probably be dead by now.
/r/MensRights07/08/23 07:51 PM
2

Well, I agree we have high standards for different things...
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 06:25 PM
2

Like something personal, intimate and relatively unconditional. Relationships lacking those things are still relationships but they aren't 'real love'.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 06:05 PM
1

That's wise 👍
/r/MensRights06/08/23 05:50 PM
3

How do you accidentally legalize prostitution lmao... Anyway, if prostitution helps with anything...then it should be legalized, with decent working conditions,a safe environment, taxes...much better than being ilegal or forbidden but still happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 05:49 PM
1

I honestly don't remember the details😅 you could perhaps ask him...probably said trans can't be men or something like that if it got deleted by reddit.
/r/MensRights06/08/23 05:46 PM
3

If I end up roping it will be because my health issues, not because of how the world works.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 05:38 PM
5

God...I'm so worried about those kids... Edit: did I read more rights?🙈 Omg...
/r/MensRights06/08/23 05:34 PM
2

This could be good, though...she makes valid points and people could empathyze better with men in a similar situation after reading her.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 05:25 PM
5

God...I can't believe this level of self delusion...almost not a single woman on Earth thinks that men have higher standards than women.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 05:24 PM
1

Basically that he wasn't welcome here.
/r/MensRights06/08/23 05:14 PM
2

Kinda 😂 standards are crazy nowadays...
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 02:10 PM
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Context/environment matters, that's for sure. Anyway, I had your age when I got into my first serious relationships (hadn't really done much before that). It mainly happened because I started socializing more and stopped caring about girls, virginity and considering myself worse than the others. Ironically, I regretted that relationship which lasted many years... Don't give up, but don't obsses about it, it's not worth It.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 02:08 PM
5

You aren't wrong but op isn't either, due to how markets work, women (in higher demand than men) are higher SMV.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 01:13 PM
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Not really, all things considered. There's a higher demand for women and men value sex more, and relationships perhaps to a similar degree.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 01:11 PM
6

Well, that's true, by default they have more SMV.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 01:10 PM
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Their lack of relationships is as voluntary as the lack of sex for incels. A femcel doesn't consider herself unable of getting sex, but committed relationships, and I guess they have at least some standards like many incels.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 01:09 PM
3

One of my best friends recently started therapy, the idea came from his new gf because he's too jealous... apparently. Anyway, he of course went to a female therapist, I asked him why and he couldn't give me an answer. The advice she gave him isn't necessarily wrong, Imo, but still, why not going to a male therapist who can probably empathize better with you (who have the problem)?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 12:21 PM
1

Men need to be in touch with their emotions only if they have the tools and support to manage those emotions. If that's not the case, better to be stoic and not allow your emotions to affect you much, because as a man, you probably are pretty much alone. Anyway, the be in touch with your emotions is code for be easier to manipulate...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 12:17 PM
0

If he considers himself a man and is treated like a man by pretty much the whole world...don't you think he would share our view and exoeriences on many subjects? Besides, we welcome women and gay people here too, why on Earth wouldn't we welcome a trans?
/r/MensRights06/08/23 10:07 AM
2

Welcome! Of course you fit here, but be warned, since there are all kinds of people here and there's free speech, you will eventually find some transphobes. There's also a left wing male advocates sub which is very similar, though I think some of the beauty of this place comes from its diversity.
/r/MensRights06/08/23 09:59 AM
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There's a Spanish movie, 'Las brujas de Zugarramurdi', directed by Alex de la Iglesia. Two guys failed at robbing a bank and scape, kidnapping the taxi driver who happens to be fed up with his abusive wife. The group is composed by a stupid toyboy, an attractive divorced man and the driver and to avoid the police they get to a forgotten village ruled by women, who are also witches and for a ritual want to eat these men alive. The characters constantly complain about their wives/ex wives, the toy…
/r/MensRights06/08/23 01:18 AM
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That's a good movie, I remember watching it after a break up, it can be truly therapeutic.
/r/MensRights06/08/23 12:59 AM
1

Relationships don't always work well, if you get into a relationship, you get knowing what can happen. Wish I understood sooner, would've saved me much hearthache.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 12:57 AM
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I'd not tell her through the group chat and if they laughed too much about it I would definitely feel disrespected and potentially break up. Now, you could say I'm then not worth it but that's were you'd be wrong: I do have a past like everyone, but my past proves a different set of issues and also a variety of good qualities. I wasn't the best partner in my past and I wasn't the most responsible man, but I still wasn't too bad. Anyway, to make it clear, my feelings can't be a fucking joke to my…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:46 PM
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It's probably not about the red pill documentary but the red pill physolophy from the manosphere...in which case, I understand why they brought it up and I also disagree with them (I'm kinda redpilled myself). Anyway, you know how this works...don't feel attacked because they aren't attacking you, MRA's, redpillers or manospherians, they are just attacking all men in general since their privileges are based on the premise that they all are victims and men are inherently evil/mysogynists. It's no…
/r/MensRights05/08/23 11:35 PM
1

Problem is they barely can tell the difference between an average guy and an ugly guy because both are relatively unattractive, at least initially. Also, inflated ego through media and simps, they get so much attention they consider themselves a seven if they have something remotely attractive like a nice hair or a decent face (with make up, dressed for party...)
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/23 11:25 PM
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I'm sure they are more than happy with your friends, but it's not something you'd just say 'hey I wish you didn't have that past', and they probably don't care much as long as those girls truly want a different lifestyle and it's not just a new phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:22 PM
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It kinda does that, though, I'm not trolling you...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 09:27 PM
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I'd give him advice, lots of it, and I'd tell him he's great and all the awesome qualities he has. I'd feel particularly sad if he was incel and particularly worried if he was mgtow. I wouldn't worry much if he was red pilled, though. Unsure about being terminally online on PPD lol...that could mean so many things!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 09:26 PM
3

They definitely play in a harder difficulty.
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/23 08:39 PM
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Not sure but let's be real, they are kinda seen as lower tier than white women, right? That has to be annoying...
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/23 08:37 PM
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Because they mainly won by constantly claiming they were losing. There's now too much to lose.
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/23 08:23 PM
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It can make you bitter if you think too much about the reasons same it could make you bitter in your 20's. In your 30's, you probably aren't doing better just because of your money and their desperation for stability, but you might realize those things play a big role and you were a B plan for decades when you needed them the most and now are expected to just be really glad she's dating you... I think it's a bit stupid, if you are dating a wonderful woman who makes you happier then just be glad …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:57 AM
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Nah... that's easy to believe but no, eventhough most men aren't particularly attractive, socially skilled or rich, it's not men failing as men. The world economy sucks right now and there's feminism. Men aren't making enough money and women don't need it that much, they make their own money. They have less reasons than ever to date average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 05:21 AM
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Ahh, I can imagine...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/23 09:49 AM
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Yeah, agree, better to not seek it and just be open to the idea if it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 12:06 AM
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Isn't narcissism a bit more common among women? Anyway, that kind of propaganda seems super useful and definitely will help with the issue...yeah, why not...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/23 11:57 PM
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Well, I was talking about LTRs more than just banging those attractive guys but you do you 🤣 I feel the same, but it's not necessarily the juice not being worth the squeeze, I'm affraid I'm just feeling too old for that (health problems don't help), I do match in Tinder and know women in person from time to time but it just feels like I don't really have the time and energy. It certainly feels stressful. I know some women who are too happy being single to start dating again! However, from experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 11:55 PM
1

So is it finally women's fault too now when nations go to war or...?
/r/MensRights03/08/23 11:40 PM
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I'm 37 but I know older women and you can absolutely date again if you want. I know how awful it's dating at these ages but as long as you keep socializing and meeting new people from time to time, it might just happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 11:35 PM
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I don't see how porn can be used for companionship and emotional support, honestly...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 11:29 PM
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A femcel is an unattractive woman who can't get commitment from men, even if some femcels are actually in relationships, fwb or voluntarily sexless. They don't always feel sad for not having a bf but always feel bad about how they are treated compared to average(Becky) and attractive (Stacy) women. Like incels, femcels often struggle with mental illnesses and there are many autistic unattractive women. They use similar lingo. They can be violent but overall never joke about applying violence. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 11:27 PM
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Your old post sounds polite and reasonable enough, though that one is short. Hopefully it won't get twisted into some sort of hateful speech.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 11:04 PM
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Romantic movies did so much damage...it's amazing that when he admits what he planned, after years of being comfortable and happy with him, he's now seen as a weirdo.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 10:45 PM
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WTF... Didn't she beat him to death?! 🙈🙈🙈
/r/MensRights03/08/23 10:08 PM
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Doesn't it make less sense to highly value a relationship when you have had plenty before and know well that you could have many more if you wanted? I know...if the relationship is super special and your partner is unique and wonderful (for now) you will value It, right...? Let's be real, relationship experiencie will make you discard relationships faster, and you will think twice before allowing yourself to bond, whether you have been hurt before or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 10:06 PM
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All the women I dated with more experience in dating (which implies more sexual experiencie) were more cautious about catching feelings and fully committing, but that's just my experiencie. It makes sense that someone (regardless the gender) with experience won't work as hard in a relationship when necessary when there are other options. Pair bonding requires time, it's not about the initial infatuation. To me, it makes sense that someone who has done that a few times before becomes a bit numb i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 09:45 PM
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It's more about the girls valuing the relationship and being committed, it's also about pair bonding. And yeah, to an extent, I guess it's also about insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:26 PM
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It's just that at some point they are scared of not being seen as marriage material. It's both clever and stupid. Most men wouldn't really stop dating and falling in love with a woman who has been promiscuous in the past unless she provides way too many details. The men who would truly care won't buy the 'phase' excuse, in that situation lying would be better, unless he already knows many of the previous partners. It's basically women avoiding, once again, responsibility for their actions and a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:24 PM
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Yeah, had an ex who I dated for many years and she couldn't stop yelling at almost everyone...I know what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 06:03 AM
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I let them know what I think about certain subjects and then politely express my discomfort when they attempt to cross my boundaries. Context was I had been complaining about a common female friend who used to go on dates with cero intention of giving the guys a chance, just for the fun, food, free travels, whatever, while also hooking up very often with more attractive men. So I guess that made me look mysogynist, though I got called it when I didn't want to get back with her after she broke up…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:34 AM
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Exes, 'you are too machista'.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:19 AM
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Most of the men I know in that situation have relatively high standards and are ugly/unattractive to some degree. Then I know some broke motherfuckers with beautiful girlfriends and very stupid, dumber than a rock guys but conventionally attractive with nice girlfriends too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 11:48 PM
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Sounds a bit like depression, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 11:44 PM
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Wait... aren't most men CEOs and succesful businessmen?
/r/MensRights01/08/23 11:39 PM
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Well, something as simple as expecting her to show up for the date she proposed instead of falling asleep cause she drank too much before with her friends, for example. On the controlling/jealous side, expecting a gf to not entertain random guys who she never had met before and clearly tried to flirt with her. I see no reason to stop talking to other people, men included, just because you have a bf...but when what they want becomes so obvious and you don't even attempt to stop it... Another one …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 11:37 PM
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'Healthy boundaries'...what are those? In past relationships I've been called mysogynist and similar stuff for setting very basic and reasonable boundaries. The problem is that my boundaries as a man are going to be accepted if she values the relationship and respects me, and they will be labeled toxic as soon as she's no longer very interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:31 PM
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I'm overall more attractive in my 30's than I was in my 20's but that's mostly because I was a mess in my 20's... What people seem to not understand is that men in their 30's tend to have more money and status and that certainly plays a big role when attracting women. Looks can be great in your 30's too, but this is all if you did things right in your 20's. Also, perhaps more important, men in their 30's have a lot more game, confidence, social skills and experience... Women do certainly hit the…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 10:10 PM
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Be responsible, independent, and someone who fix problems instead of being who creates them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 09:43 PM
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Ah well, reread your comment and yeah, I kinda mock the victim mindset from women because I consider them more in power to decide who to date and overall in a better place in society (I don't believe there's a patriarchy unless that means very few and absurdly rich men ruling). Still, I try to be ironic and not too serious about it when discussing with the women in my life. I'd never tell someone struggling with an ex that he/she must have liked it and shitty boyfriends don't seem like Chads to …
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 06:18 PM
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Men and women mock each other too often nowadays, specially on the internet... If I mock a girl it wouldn't be when she's around or when that could hurt her reputation. That said, I try to not mock other people, it makes me sound whiny and overall a not very good person.
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 06:11 PM
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Not all men think that way...and even when they do, I feel like they might just be venting (in a very childish way).
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 06:08 PM
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I kinda am, though the way you put it sounds quite insulting... Not technically an incel but currently single (not my preference) and my past relationships all of them made me feel a bit like a victim, yeah.
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 06:06 PM
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I know an autistic guy who has a different gf every month...the guy is 18 and I honestly don't know how he manages that, I don't even think he's attractive but clearly he is, otherwise it wouldn't make sense. Also know two autistic girls who have had lots of boufriends and hook ups but being women...I'm not surprised. I don't disagree with your claim, though, being autistic is hell for many things, dating included.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 04:08 PM
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Nothing to challenge here but let's remember that we also treat hot women a bit better than average women and we treat ugly women embarrasingly bad in that sense. The rules definitely are different based on attraction regardless the gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 12:50 AM
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Biology, sense of romanticism, goal of creating a family, need of sex and companionship, internet and almost literally every movie, series, song or book selling you directly or subtly the idea of sex/romance, plus women trying to look attractive (which we can't really blame on them).
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 12:44 AM
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Try to be a good, honest and caring person, regardless your gender and concept of masculinity, that's all... I have heard from women that I'm too soft, too macho, not masculine enough, a feminist, a mysogynist, a communist, a conservative...have heard so much stupid stuff I don't really care anymore, honestly. To be fair, I don't even think they cared, it all came from friends or partners that at some point wanted to be right during an argument or something like that.
/r/MensRights31/07/23 12:39 AM
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Whenever a man hurts a woman, he's officially the asshole, that's all and that's never going to change, sadly. However , a man who pretends to have more interest than he has or even says he wants something serious with her when that's not true is actually an asshole, and other men should understand that. What does revoking consent for a committed relationship even mean? You are not revoking consent, you are breaking up, unless you mean he truly changed his mind early before becoming an official …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 12:33 AM
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Everything men do can be considered bad even if it needs some twisting for that. Everything women do can be considered good, even if it needs some twisting for that. I hope that one day we at least get to fully understand why this is happening and being encouraged. Irresponsible women and scared men... This benefits who? Anyway...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:24 AM
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It's just someone relatively clumsy or even slightly 'creepy' (yes) trying to be nice to someone (in his own way), Imo. Pointing out his potential creepiness just seems unnecessary and a bit rude to me, honestly... I see where you come from and I get it, though, but let's assume people here just do their best.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 02:44 AM
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It isn't wrong and those women exist, but the things you listed are a bit superficial. Most of what you described isn't rare, anyway. More than submissive I'd say you mean a 'cute' girl who is attracted to a conventionally masculine man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 01:57 AM
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Kinda, but creepier to reply to an obviously kind comment with a creep accusation...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 01:50 AM
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One year for killing her own dad over such a meaningless thing...? Really?!
/r/MensRights28/07/23 01:30 AM
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I have seen a few, though the attractive man has to fuck up big time to make her unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 01:29 AM
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The nurturing side of women is very attractive (not in a sexual way) for men, so I guess it's a matter of balancing it. That's why I said that often it's a situation caused by the woman, they sometimes start the relationship sacrificing themselves to be valued by the new partner and he gets used to that treatment... This happens mostly to inexperienced men, since that's a mistake you might make in your first relationship but not later. It wouldn't be fair to blame it on women, my point is that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 12:50 AM
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Wait...what? I don't know if he did or didn't do what he was accused of, but his career and reputation are certainly ruined.
/r/MensRights28/07/23 12:32 AM
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Because 20/80 wasn't depressive enough...come on, 5/95 sounds way too crazy to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 12:30 AM
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Seriously, I know you made lots of research but we really need a tldr... Also, I'm pretty sure it's usually the 'same' men (attractive, confident, extroverted men) having numerous relationships and sexual partners. We now live in a more connected and visual society due to social media, it only makes sense that these men (often players) are getting now more partners than before.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 12:28 AM
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The first one already read it when they posted it. Not sure what the point of the second thread is...do you agree or disagree with liberal progressives looking down on weak men and having traditional expectations? Is it the part about promiscuity what bothers you? You have to realize that some threads here are too extreme or personal and don't really represent reality. If I was out earning a partner, I wouldn't expect her to do more chores just because I make bigger money, that's psychopathic to…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 12:21 AM
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I spent more time than I should reading incel communities and those are depressing as hell... F*ck...I'm not even technically an incel since I have dated many years but sometimes still identify with some aspects like the general loneliness, frustration and hopelesness, and it truly gets even more depressing despite the funny lingo. Personally I don't even consider them obssesed with sex or romance, they truly are living relatively shitty and pointless lives for the most part and never deserved i…
/r/AllPillDebate28/07/23 12:04 AM
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Often that's the case but of course it isn't all the time... Seems like those last boyfriends you had weren't interested enough or just were that kind of men. You might want to be more careful chosing future partners (not saying it's your fault, though). Remember to always communicate properly with men, because we sometimes have different standards and expectations regarding some stuff like home chores. While it could be said it proves inmaturity, sometimes it's just as simple as stating that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 11:59 PM
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Something about toxic masculinity, I guess... Btw it's not just the US, similar trend in the whole Europe and probably other countries.
/r/MensRights27/07/23 11:48 PM
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The irony about those man children is that women, most likely their current partners, made them that way at some point of the relationship, usually at the beginning when they are trying to be extra supportive to be seen as gf/wife material.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 11:46 PM
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Opening up as a man? Good fucking luck... that's only advice given to manipulate men, if she's not interested on you she will be cold as ice, and most other men won't really bother much.
/r/MensRights27/07/23 11:42 PM
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Not entirely bad advice if you learn to handle rejection and see it from a healthier perspective (it wasn't the right time, she already has someone, I said/did something wrong but won't happen next time...) Otherwise constant rejection might murder your confidence.
/r/AllPillDebate27/07/23 11:35 PM
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It's funny how we still would hear how women are as interested on sex as men are... Here it's clearly not the case. Not saying it isn't reasonable that being so tired after 2 jobs she doesn't have the energy, but a man would still do it.
/r/AllPillDebate26/07/23 10:01 AM
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Pretty sure they already knew it...those men were sent to a war.
/r/MensRights25/07/23 08:53 PM
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Not much really, it would be great to simply identify and aknowledge all those things that make men feel miserable in the current society. If we talk abour rights specifically, some of their privileges could clash, like the rule to have at least 50% of female employees for relatively big companies and public jobs in some countries, but generally speaking, it's possible to have equality without giving up their rights.
/r/MensRights25/07/23 08:51 PM
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Emotionally available= easy to manipulate. Emotionally intelligent= has money and spends it on me.
/r/AllPillDebate25/07/23 08:40 PM

You have to look as cute or attractive(in a self respecting manner) as possible and try to connect with 'good' men, most of them will be totally open to the idea of commitment/marriage. If you are struggling differentiating the good men from the not so good men...hint: the good men usually aren't the most physically attractive or super confident men, they do have many other qualities and aren't necessarily physically ugly, though. They tend to try to not look intimidating, they seem to have stro…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:35 PM
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Powerful men aren't even 1% of the male population... Institutions are no longer exclusively controlled by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:01 PM

Find the men who actually value you and don't want to just 'play'? I'm not saying it's 100% women fault there, but it's at least partially their fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:00 PM
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Wtf...do you really believe men created gender roles? Even the things that were created by men were created by a really small minority of powerful men. Those don't represent 'men'.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 06:54 PM

Are you saying they can't enjoy the hook up culture+ social media/tinder era well into their 30's and then become suddenly a traditional wife for the rest of their lives once they say they are ready?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 06:18 PM
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Your work place and even randoms on the street will expect you to be traditionally masculine to at least some degree...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 06:16 PM
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I'm not particularly traditional but compared to the most recent trends I guess I am... What do I demand? Equality when possible and respect when not possible. The girls I date can dress provocatively and have male friends. There's just a context for everything and there's common sense. It really shouldn't be explained. I really shouldn't have to explain what's and isn't appropiate. Am I ready to be traditional myself? If that means being generous with my money and even fully supporting her when…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 06:13 PM
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Age gaps aren't good in general, they cause lots of relationship problems, so it's normal that most people aren't really willing to expand the age ranges. Would it help people finding 'more' partners? Of course, lowering your standards or expanding the age range would help you with that...should you, though? I'm not particularly worried about age gaps at this point in my life but I don't think drastically widening the range would be a good idea for those who want something serious and more likel…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 05:56 PM
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Not me, though I certainly regret it when I had very clear chances and stayed loyal (considering many of my exes turned out to be cheaters or not so respectful towards me and the relationship). IIrc, the % of cheating is about the same for both genders (around 20%) but it was lower for women many years ago and has been increasing in recent years. To the question 'would men cheat if there weren't consequences?' I believe it mostly depends on feelings for the partner. If he's infatuated and in lov…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 05:50 PM
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That's true, and very sad, but it's not better than dating a less perfect man, it's just that single women get the best from all words: the beta pseudo boyfriend, the occasional hook up, the casual fuckboy relationship or fwb, male attention everywhere, 'dates' that aren't official dates until she decides so... Not surprised they become unhappy in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 01:53 PM
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Kinda, but I don't see how it relates to my point or op's...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 10:23 AM
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Only going to challenge one thing here: 'people who make them happy'. I have almost never seen a woman happy with her partner not matter how much he apparently meets those standards and, in fact, those who seemed to date with reasonable standards seem considerably happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:58 PM
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It isn't, but the fact you are so worried sounds a bit weird, honestly. Why do you even care? Don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:56 PM
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Waiting for sex is perfectly fine, both persons should feel comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 01:27 PM
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Is this real or trolling...? Waiting a couple months can be ok, so is waiting for the 3rd date only, but I don't see what's pick me there, I'd rather date your 'pick me' version if that means: I'm getting my sexual needs satisfied, feeling appreciated and attractive, can listen to you but also talk about myself, feel the potential relationship would be safe and stable, don't have to be constantly thinking on ways to keep you entertained. Actually, might be just because I'm a bit old, but I would…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 01:25 PM
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Wish they had illnesses making them gravitate towards lonely kind men lmao... Anyway, thanks for the detailed answer, I see your points and they make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:19 PM
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Van Gogh likely had very serious mental health problems, he even spend a year or more in a mental hospital, and wrote letters to his brother admitting he had no friends and people seemed uncomfortable around him... He also became famous only after his death, wrong example. Tesla wanted to fuck a bird or something like that...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 02:05 PM
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What does extremely ambitious mean for you? I guess it's not just having a decent job, a house and a car...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 02:00 PM
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I don't think it, I know it, and I'm sure there are studies proving it. Btw, status mainly make men more attractive, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 01:56 PM
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What kind of mental issue makes you gravitate towards assholes...?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 01:52 PM
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Manipulation can be a good thing for your relationship if that's how you fix what needs to be fixed, but communication should be the main tool. However , if you need to constantly manipulate your partner, it's clear that partner isn't for you, or you aren't the right person to date. Manipulation is bad in general since it usually implies being dishonest and selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 10:10 AM
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You aren't wrong, though I doubt anyone will listen to the advice. Women will pick whoever seems more attractive, and let's be honest, men will do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:46 PM
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Well...going to throw a blue pill here and say those things are a bit shallow when there's a reason for the negative changes. Life happens. Health issues, depression and other stuff might happen too, and facing those challenges as a team is actually what makes it a good relationship. It's actually the people who leave as soon as things aren't as perfect as they used to be who can't maintain a relationship, Imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:43 PM
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Boundaries don't really need to be very reasonable (though they should), they are just the limits you set in a relationship and should be clear as soon as possible. There's a line between boundaries and abuse, though. Personally, I don't really believe in the usefulness of boundaries, though. People in love endure all kinds of abuse and bs...they basically become addicted to another person, ignore every red flag and don't really set any boundaries at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:37 PM

They are mainly hypergamous, they wouldn't cheat more often, they'd cheat when given a chance to secure a 'better' partner, they already do it but they'd feel better about it if it was socially accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:21 PM

Woah...women having high morals...are you a time traveller coming from the 20th century? Other than that, you are kind of right, men are projecting a lot because many would do it if they could.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:09 PM

That reduces the pool of datable women in the West by 95% if not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:06 PM

Pretty sure we aren't yet at that point where people would defend the girl from your example...but yeah, this is very simple: women are totally in control of sex and relationships, they set the rules. It's like jobs, the employer will set the conditions and only the most valuable employees will get to negotiate good conditions, the others can go live under a bridge and beg money/food if they don't like the job conditions. Women will keep asking for more and more because asking is allowed and fre…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 09:58 PM
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Sad, infuriating and ridiculous...
/r/MensRights22/07/23 07:54 PM
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Yeah well, last girl I liked and asked her for her number and went to a date still frienzoned me, also became a toxic friend 🙈🤣... Jokes aside...the more people you know, the better in general for your life...I dated some women through friends. Anyway, if you can handle it emotionally then it's fine I guess. Personally, I hate it when a girl who gave me mixed signals or I even dated for a while sticks around my social circle because getting over her becomes more difficult and hurtful, but with y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 07:46 PM
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At least in their context (their country) they shouldn't be competing with the Australians too often...but yeah, I get your point.
/r/AllPillDebate22/07/23 07:39 PM
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It could be then that we have to suffer now, hopefully in exchange of something good at some point...but I'm not really a religious person and lost my faith and spirituality long ago. From a more logical approach, it all comes down to potential and luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 07:34 PM
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That can be true from a religious or spiritual perspective, yeah. Though in that case, if we consider there's a master plan, it's supposed to be the best for everyone, right...?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 07:19 PM
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They'd be taking advantage of you if they pretended to want a relationship with you but only wanted to hook up. As I said, if you initially find them attractive enough to believe there's some potential for hooking up/relationship, then it's fine I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 07:14 PM
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Can't tell you if fate is real but that kind of mindset can be very dangerous for you, since it might make you consider giving up. A more realistic approach is that some average men will find happiness (in the context of dating) relatively early in life, in their 20's for instance, while other less lucky average men might find a good partner later in their 30's or even 40's. I tend to have negative views on the subject but it's always better to be optimistic when possible. The one who found some…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 07:12 PM
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That's why it can't be much of a solid reason, it often isn't communicated, and doesn't even need to be as big as cheating, abuse, neglect... Sometimes it's just routine. Obviously it's subjective to a degree, the smallest reason for someone can be a big one for another person. Edit: anyway, as you say, there's no certainty.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 06:58 PM
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Depends... If you know they have some expectations, like a real chance with you, but you know you don't want anything romantic with them, then you probably should let them know or simply don't go on a date with those. The problem is that you might be taking advantage of their naivety and that's wrong. Don't get me wrong, if you are open to a more casual relationship with them, then it's fine too. My point is that people shouldn't go on dates for fun when they know there won't be romantic interes…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 06:53 PM
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Luck is basically the main deciding factor for average men when it comes to dating and relationships. Other average men are also working hard, they all look 'average' and they all have some positive qualities and traits, so basically you have to be in the right place at the right time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 06:39 PM
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People go on dates to see if they connect, to see if there's attraction, to eventually start a relationship (though some only want sex/fun). You are making it sound like a privilege and I'm sure you are amazing but you should see it as two persons looking for those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 06:29 PM
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Their existence is basically as necessary as everyone else. If you meant that they are less likely to find happiness, then yes, they themselves will feel like their existence is pointless. Average men have to do their best and hope to be lucky when it comes to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 06:20 PM
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Irl is more effective for obvious reasons but it requires a context that might or might not happen. Online dating seems as easy as matching but then it's lots of relatively boring and akward chatting unless you know how to do it, and even then, you never know what will happen. I mean, in real life the potential attraction and connection happens easier and is far stronger. You should probably try both things if you have the time and energy, not really much reason to chose one. Personally, I go wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 06:07 PM
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Good to know, congrats!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 02:22 PM
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Do his height and belly matter, though?😅 I mean, you clearly were in love at that time, so it's understandable... I think that 'money' specifically doesn't matter all the time, depends on the girl, her needs, stage in life...it's more about providing what she wants and money usually helps with that but if you somehow can fulfill those needs without money then it's fine. Anyway, we all made mistakes in relationships, myself included, try to avoid men who don't respect you (seems you already know …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 02:18 PM
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I'd need to understand why she was in an open relationship (was she coerced into accepting the deal when she was infatuated? Was it actually her idea...?) It's a major red flag, though, it can't be denied.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 02:12 PM
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What you say isn't wrong but I have to disagree with your conclusion. Sometimes not as much and often not for the same reasons. With the right person, they will certainly want and enjoy sex, but sex will still be used as a way of bonding and fulfilling emotional needs in the relationship. Men do that too when in love but mainly we want the sex for its most simple benefit, physical pleasure. The are other differences but what matters here is the fact that there are differences, it should prove th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 02:07 PM
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I don't know what to think about physical types but what really, really confuses me are the 'personality' preferences... sometimes I see women complaining about/rejecting a type which should (Imo) tick most if not all of the boxes, and I can't help but think lately that 'personality' is mainly about money and fun in whatever proportion, and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 01:56 PM
1

Not just men. Aside from those divorces where women get a lot of benefits, a failed marriage/divorce just seems a bad deal for everyone more often than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 01:35 PM
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Who wouldn't want to marry the right person...? Now, how do you know she's the right person when she can go from being your #1 fan, best friend and supporter to become the person who hates you the most in this world for not much of a solid reason? Obviously you did something wrong if you get to that point, but relationships are difficult no matter how nice and dedicated you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 01:33 PM
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It's something that usually happens naturally, you meet those friends of friends in a social event, something like a birthday party for example. I think it's a good idea, the problem I see with a truly blind date is that it would feel uncomfortable if called a date since the beginning, and there's a huge chance your friend sets unrealistically low standards for one of them. It's like 'hey you are lonely and my friend Emma is lonely too, you'd probably get on well!' , then she's 3 times bigger th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 12:08 PM
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Not much to argue here, honestly, unless you are really unlucky chosing the girl to cold approach or you are absolutely awful chosing the place and time, consequences are never going to be worse. I guess the potential negative consequences can be worse for cold approaching, but they are far less likely to happen or require you to fuck up royally. Edit: btw silly simp me recentely decided to turn into a warm approach what was going to be a cold approach... She lost interest (initially had) got my…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:46 AM
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To a relationship yes, but sex is a part of that relationship. When we say no sex we are saying no relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 02:42 AM
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Something I really hatr about sex is how not so important It is when I have it almost every day and how ridiculously important it becomes when I'm on the longest dry spell. That shit even messes with your confidence, mood and self steem. Whoever says it isn't important is a very particular case or a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 02:38 AM
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That's true, though red pilled advice with poor understanding of the context can be really bad too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:35 PM
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If you wrongly assume that the red pill is all about self improvement then ok... but cold approaching, sexualizing conversations, spinning plates and playing mind games don't seem like a great tool for them. Blue pilled advice is generally trash, depending on what you want and your age, but it can also work. Self improvement + blue pilled niceness will get you much further in your 30's, maybe late 20's too if you are lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:09 AM
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There's a concept though you won't like it: useful fool. Plenty of women (not always the best looking women but overall many women) at some point want/need someone who is nice and a yes man. So outside of hookups, a lot of women marry vulnerable, easy to manipulate hard working pleasers. Not necessarily ideal or what you want for your life, but it's basically like beta buxing for a relationship, even a marriage. That's where the blue pilled advice might work. Now, if you want a more desirable sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:08 AM
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I agree TRP is a lot more specific on what it advices. The blue pill is a bit like setting a trap and waiting for a prey to step in. Might take some hours, days, weeks...perhaps never happen if you aren't lucky. The red pill can be a bit too brutal, those who aren't attractive enough to succeed in the current market can lower their standards and apply blue pilled advice too, though technically the red pill advice can be 'work extra hard, forget about women, and come back later in a year or two'.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:56 AM
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Autistic men should probably ignore most of the red pill and stick to blue pilled advice. Blue pilled advice works too, not as often as red pill advice, but the effectivity of any advice will depend on the target. If my friend is a bit fat, I think confidence will work better than anything else, but if he's very fat, niceness will probably work better. Might meet a girl who wants a nice, stable guy with emotional intelligence even if he's fat. He should aim for different girls, though. Physicall…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:48 AM
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Far more useful advice than usual blue pilled advice, but I think blue pill also gave some of the advice you listed in a different way. The main problem with the blue pill is that it gave two options, and men chose the most comfortable for them: - be confident (very effective but incredibly hard to achieve for many) vs just be yourself (which often translates as be vulnerable, and might or might not work depending on your luck but more often than not it won't work). Both be confident and be your…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:40 AM
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Therapy is considered potential blue pilled brain washing, but the RP was never writen with autistic men in mind. A neurotypical RP could benefit more from other activities, an autist would probably find therapy far more beneficial than extra lifting/gym time, extra socilizing or whatever the neurotypical would do with that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:29 AM
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'curvy' from your examples, but that's not really what most women mean with 'curby', it's usually a relatively 'fat' woman and you call her curby to avoid using less respectful words. Anyway, I have been with both types and I prefer the curby or even slightly overweight body because there's like more of everything, if that makes sense... 😅 I don't know if prefering slim or curby matters, honestly. A cute face+ hair beats everything else. Probably similar with guys, the man with the attractive fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:13 AM
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I see... Well, for men like me who wanted to be dads it's not so great, though for non dad it's definitely much better. I became part of the latter group since my serious relationships always broke up before that point and I wouldn't really mind it, I like kids, but with single moms you never know the true reasons she's interested on you, I wouldn't want anyone to date me just because I'm fine with her situation, you know...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:49 PM
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Almost only nobility was (not anymore) inbred in Europe and poor families didn't really do many of those political marriages, they were all poor as shit and wouldn't gain much of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:32 PM
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Underrated. So many people (often the guys) pretending to be in committed LTRs while actively looking to cheat...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:29 PM
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Can't see how that is better in general if like 80% of guys are struggling (it's not like 100% of women are doing better now)... No one wants a woman to be with a man to avoid poverty, we all want them to be safe, but going from that to 'only casual and only with top 20ish% men' sounds like an awful deal to me, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:28 PM
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I honestly don't think that people struggling with or somehow negatively affected by dating apps and hook up culture are secretly wishing to abuse anyone. Can already tell you I'm perhaps too patient and good with my partners and kinda hate this culture eventhough I have had a few hookups and relationships. It promotes more real and instinctual yet shallow relationships, Imo. I guess 'losers' and 'winners' of this game will have different opinions, but not necessarily influenced by potential of …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:22 PM

Have met a couple of female Uruk Hais apparently not partaking in hookup culture...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:02 PM
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I have met a big number of people who adopted the hook up physolophy only when OLD and smartphones with social media happened, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 09:59 PM
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1- because it's often exagerated. Looks matter the most but everything plays a role. 2- because it goes against the current narratives in society and points out nature's unfairness in a bitter way. The last thing that good looking people and npcs want to hear is that they are lucky and permanently mistreating you and making you feel miserable just by existing and living their lives, they don't want to solve your problems and they know they can't even if they wanted. 3- because, being exagerated …
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 02:30 AM
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That happens too, a lot, sometimes you don't even have to 'do' something offputting, just her knowing more about your life can be enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 05:16 PM
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Ehm...dunno, I won't pretend the guy is wrong when it was the girl who did something disrespectful. Men are entitled to their sense of pride and dignity. Sure, would be better for him if he could just forget it but since average men tend to have less dating experiences it's normal that he remembers something that happened years ago and perhaps still makes him bitter to an extent. Therapy is recommended too lightly and respect disregarded too easily. Though I suppose he's just using it as an exam…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:47 PM
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Just don't let them know, lie about it... I disagree with needing experience with sex, she might have expectations but sex isn't too complicated and every individual has different preferences in bed, experience is good but not nearly as important unless you are particularly clueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:31 PM
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I do know a few autistic people who get laid. They are above average in looks and, yes, also akwardly confident despite their autism, but they definitely get laid because of their looks.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 01:27 PM
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Hahaha oh well...you are right but let's be honest, it's not the money but the humilliation and disrespect.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:17 PM
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Certainly, not just as an ATM but faking potential romantic interest for whatever benefit, even if just attention and ego boosting, is essentially the same, it's using sexual/romantic attraction to manipulate someone. Personally I don't really mind inviting a girl in a date but it's not offensive only if she was willing to pay her half. It's then when I tell her I'm paying. Cornering someone into paying the bill or making an scene is particularly disrespectful. I suppose using someone for sex ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:15 PM
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Yeah there are exceptions like Newman, though my point was that older people can date other older people and looks still work there. A 50yo woman who looks attractive for her age can date younger or around her age, her beauty still works. Same for men. Now, if it's for attracting people in their prime or mid 20's, your looks as an older person probably won't be enough, but most people prefers dating within their own age range. Looks become less important with age but if you happen to age well, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:37 AM
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It is. There's one argument, however, which is that dangerous men exist and women are particularly vulnerable, but this is usually not understood properly. Dangerous men aren't there in highschool (or most other places) to assault, sexually or physically, a woman. Assuming that a male class mate or coworker is potentially dangerous and that women are always victims is the problem. As a teacher I remember some years ago when two kids were fighting and one of them was a girl (they both aged 12). W…
/r/MensRights06/07/23 01:44 AM
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Self improvement won't necessarily do much for some, but it's probably worth a try.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 01:17 AM

It's not just confidence, often they are a bit more physically attractive and that's enough to beat the competence, also their perception of 'fun'. Fun isn't a clever joke or an interesting conversation, fun is being loud, drinking, smoking, dancing to shitty music and fucking in the toilet at a party, well and other similar stuff. Good guys are boring to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:10 AM
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Look...you aren't wrong, but that doesn't mean they don't struggle. Really low smv women often end up single moms, used and abused. It's a different struggle. A similarly low smv man is completely doomed, though, but that's a different subject.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 12:46 AM
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Girl...I have been dinning vegetables the last three nights and took me 5 minutes to prepare it. That's not confusion, that's probably anxiety triggering an eating disorder if you are eating too much or not healthy enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:38 AM
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Not necessarily if it's 25-30, most likely would stop finding her attractive if it's more than that, and first and foremost, I'd worry about her and try to help her because clearly she's going through something dangerous like a really bad depression or physical health problem. I wouldn't break up without seeing what she's going to do about it and definitely not before telling her that I have an issue with that and how important it is for me. I'd be patient and give her enough time for treatment …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:25 AM
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This is the right answer. Eventually you'd find someone you truly love and loves you too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:10 AM
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The 2nd one leads to the 1st one too, so basically everyone should chose the 2nd one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:09 AM
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Definitely the first if I'm attracted and love that person too. Weird way of asking monogamy vs hook up culture, btw, I guess that was actually the question. Most people will probably chose the first but they will have some sort of idealization in their mind: a partner who's cute and overall good and loves you completely the same way you love him/her. In real life, you are extremely lucky if you find that. Being realistic, if you ask me 'a partner who loves you completely but you don't like too …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:05 AM
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That applies only to some people. I mean, some age particularly bad but if that's not your case then you can be dating at all ages, not really much reason to be alone if you are 'attractive' for your age.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:59 PM
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Not if you live in Alabama...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:57 PM
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Twitter isn't workint for me lately but I believe you. I'd need context to know if he truly was attacking the fat girl or trying to convey a different message... anyway, you'll eventually discover that older people are mostly just like younger people with worse health and different responsibilities 😅🤣 though tweeting something like 'Die CNN' is certainly pathetic and I agree and adult has to put more effort and intelligence on what he writes...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:14 PM
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If it helps, I thought almost all those you mentioned were Americans... 🙈 Probably not much difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:55 PM
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Is he really doing that? I'm no expert on the subject but don't remember him insulting fat women or sounding particularly inmature... He's all about motivation in a fairly cringe way, just listen to the music in his videos...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:52 PM
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Jordan Peterson actually wants money but yeah, at least he does It by using motivational speech. Tate is just a massive loser pretending to be cool. Nothing personal but that man truly is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:49 PM
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This is what I hope too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:47 PM
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Hypergamy, beta bucks, 20% rule, its theories on attraction and its relationship advice, gynocentrism...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:46 PM
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I don't think so, though of course you should make her feel safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 03:26 PM
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They end up with rich and decent looking men if they need it or with equally hot men with a nice personality if they make their own good money. Well, or a combo of all of that if she's lucky to find such man. Often they end up with someone who can also boost her career directly or indirectly through contacts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 03:25 PM
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Call me shallow but I wouldn't want my wife to become unnecessarily ugly/unattractive... You become a mother and stop using make up, start eating sweets and carbs like there's no tomorrow and you never exercize unless it's a family hiking every other week? I mean, if the looks faded with age and the body changed with motherhood that's perfectly fine and reasonable. If you stop giving a shit because you already have the ring and signed the papers then don't pretend I'm being shallow...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 03:21 PM
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Why not? They are already dating way above their league whenever they want as long as they look average-ish...might aswell openly go after unnatural body builder types too. With how broken the market is in its natural state (women in extremely high demand and men having next to no standards) they can start thinking that me being in my adequate weight happened after three weeks of not eating fast food, or that a bulky body builder just have been hitting the gym for half a year and avoiding fats..…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 03:01 PM
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They probably believe some of what they say but definitely not everything and they know they are exagerating or simplifying too much some of the concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:10 PM
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It has become a business, those podcasters will exagerate some truths and pretend that their method works for every man, which is never true... The red pill isn't even about male enpowerment, it's about self improvement with the goal of becoming more attractive to women. It's the opposite, it's about stopping being yourself (that's not enpowerment at all) and change pretty much everything about yourself, even things that are actually good and valuable but decreasing your odds of dating a relativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:06 PM
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Those 'romantic' movies are porn for women the same way full action movies (stuff like John Wick) are porn for men. Can be used as example of what they find romantic? Sometimes. Women find it romantic when they are worshipped by high value men in a creative (although still expensive) way, and the nice things those men do are actually romantic for women, the key is, as always, that those men are attractive (at least to the girl).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:28 AM
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Not at all when you have it. Can become way too important when you don't have it, same for romance in general not just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:28 PM
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It technically is 'higher' even if just for how the 'market' works.
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 09:10 PM
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Not a women but I want to answer here: almost all places are acceptable as long as you are ready to overcome potential rejection and shame (which you should if you want to date). Don't push too far and try to read her reaction the best you can, and of course remember that certain situations can be just a bit too creepy. Ideally you would approach women who aren't physically isolated or anything like that. You should start your approaching after you feel like she's comfortable enough around you, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:54 PM
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Well, for empathy I'd like my partner to be happy with her job, but I don't see how would I love or care more or less about her due to her job being better or worse or for unemployment, though I understand how chronic unemployment could be a problem, though it could also not be a problem depending on other factors (can I support us? Is she going to be a housewife then? Do we have kids...?) If you like money a lot, then it makes sense that your partner wants you to make money since that means you…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:10 PM
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How can you be fine with your partner staying or leaving based on your finantial success, though? When love is so conditional... I honestly don't like it, but I guess I live (and will die) in Wonderland. Anyway, I certainly didn't bring data, show data about it long ago but was specifically about attraction and not the likelihood of staying in a dead marriage. You have a point though, I suppose a lot of men stay in loveless marriages when their alternatives seem to consist on mostly 'same loneli…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:57 PM
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If we go to the extremes and super rare cases, then everything is possible whether we talk about men or women... We should talk about averages or relatively common situations. The question would be, do enough men care about a partner's degree? Does the average man considers her income when deciding if starting a relationship with her? And we could even be more specific with age demographics... Do men in their 20's care about degrees? Do men in their 40's care more? I honestly don't have the scie…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:39 PM
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I know several male doctors who married nurses, but female doctors rarely do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:23 PM
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That's not what men do, in fact, that's more common from women but it's not necessarily a gendered thing, that's more personal. Some people stay in dead relationships for a variety of reasons... Your average man doesn't stay in a shitty marriage because 'house is bigger/holidays in more exotic places'. Might stay if the alternative is going homeless, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:21 PM
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I agree to an extent. You said she doesn't need to be beautiful, just make herself attractive. So I guess you mean wearing make up and nice dresses on weekends, but looking fairly unattractive the rest of the time while being lazy and uninteresting... That's something that sometimes works with some guys, but generally speaking, below average looking, lazy and boring girls can't always sustain a long term relationship with just becoming attractive from time to time. Men standards are low, but are…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:39 AM
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That's what I have observed from other men in general. For example my friend engeneer married a waitress. A programmer married an unemployed girl, and so on... Of course, other men here on the internet might have a different opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:26 AM
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Might matter for the future but not to decide if the relationship is serious or not. Might matter when deciding if having children and how many, buying a nice house or a more humble flat, and so on... When I was making over twice the average salary in my country, I dated a woman with a very good career, because she liked me and seemed nice (had a really difficult personality though, so I had to break up). The girl I wanted to date before meeting this one wasn't a waitress, she was unemployed wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:11 AM
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We certainly can't fuck your degree and it won't make you hotter or nicer. Might make you more 'interesting' but you could just develop a personality regardless career. Women should pursue a career for their own good, it's a great thing and I encourage them to do so, but no, it doesn't matter when it comes to dating, the benefit is so negligible we could say it doesn't matter. Women and men are different in that sense. Your money and career might matter once you are already in a serious relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:54 PM
1

Aim higher, don't settle for hands on shoulders and instead get a girlfriend, try to be your best version and believe in yourself, don't let loneliness distract you from other goals and eventually you might get what you need.
/r/AllPillDebate26/06/23 10:41 PM
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Not if he left, specially if he left for another girl. Unless you mean that loyal=best or compatible=best, or you are implying she would never have allowed him to leave?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:50 AM
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Not necessarily the person or the 'memories', simply the fact that he was the 'best', and a similarly good or even better new partner would be enough to heal but the 'alpha' was so good nothing comes close.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:32 AM
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Because, as usual with trp, it's misstitled due to silly enphasis on masculinity (always asociated to alphas). The alpha who forever stole her heart might actually be a nice guy with relatively femenine traits who gave her good sex, was absurdly caring (best birthday parties, love letters, romantic details...)smily, intelligent, always knew where to get her to in the weekend, great cook, made her feel emotionally safe and loved, was super social and loved by everyone around, family, friends and …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:15 AM
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You didn't understand the concept I think. It's not about getting hung up on a specific person, it's about comparing the next partners to an ex who was much 'better' and how that ruins the chances of the relationship working, but not because of the ex in particular but the fact that he felt considerably and consistently 'better'/much higher value. I have seen guys in a similar situation though, despite getting sex and a nice partner they compare with the super hot, funny and caring ex and as res…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:04 AM
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Just today I was hanging out with one of my divorced friends, she often talks about her ex husband who cheated on her, and again, as she has been doing for years, literally told me that she regrets divorcing him and was the perfect man, that nobody compares to him. She might be an exception but it's crazy, after divorce she dated a number of very wealthy, handsome and caring men and never seemed to fall in love with any of them... Ironically, I'm pretty sure she felt something for me at some poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:54 AM
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Honestly I'd rather have a sad sex life than being that guy 🙈
/r/AllPillDebate25/06/23 01:00 PM
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Connection matters too, of course, but men are mainly attracted by looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:59 PM
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This is the right answer. It's not that they are ugly, it's that they aren't attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:58 PM
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Where? Many of them don't even go out and try to remain invisible and unnoticed. There's also some projection there, because we tend to not treat ugly women the same way we treat pretty women, so we assume it's the same for us (and sometimes it is, specially in the context of 'approaching'/dating). I do think, however, that the bar is just incredibly high. It's not that all those men are ugly, it's more that they aren't attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:55 PM
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I already did that though I wasn't aware of her criminal record until she committed a new crime, and she wasn't hot (though my naive stupid younger self thought she was funny and trustworthy). I guess this is a troll-ish thread but anyway, that was the worst decission in my whole life. In the end, apparently she was legit in love with me but still, freaking biggest mistake in my life, wish I knew earlier... I suppose everyone here will answer they wouldn't date such woman, and really, then be co…
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 01:25 AM
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They do care a lot about looks, but at the same time and specially at some ages, they also care a lot about personality and status/money. Not sure if they are intentionally lying, I honestly think they basically can't tell the difference between a 4 and a 6 or even a 7, guys below a certain threshold are kind of invisible. However, with time, sometimes too much time, women can start appreciating and even liking men that they didn't appreciate before, not just for beta buxing, they might end up g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 12:59 AM
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Develop game and keep working on your self improvement. If you don't really have solid potential for looks and money, then 'personality' is your best bet, not nearly as efficient but it works too with some girls worth dating.
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 12:51 AM
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You don't, you work on yourself the best you can and then wait to be found by one of them.
/r/AllPillDebate20/06/23 09:22 PM
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Aahh my bad then, sorry...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:02 PM
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I like my partners to not be constantly fighting or giving strong opinions with cero information on the subject (basically because that makes you stupid), but submissive?? Who wants a 'submissive wife' and why would you want that...? Sounds boring and unhealthy. Perhaps they mean 'supportive'? Anyway, I guess you could see her as 'filling her traditional femenine role' and not necessarily as inferior. That is, if you consider traditional roles to be just specialized roles and not a hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:21 PM
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This is just a joke video, not something real happening... though hypergamy certainly is real, way too real. Edit: I mean, don't go out thinking into hypergamy and stuff like that, it will only make you feel miserable.
/r/AllPillDebate20/06/23 03:17 PM
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You can see it as romantic love and desire to build a family to protect if it makes it less pathetic, though it's still looks/sex related and pathetic to an extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:38 AM
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Oh, average looking without mental illnesses I have met, but despite what seemed initial interest they always discarded me, so they are out of my league.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:17 AM
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