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| 21 | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?Honestly, she phrased that poorly and in a way that men would seem like a backhanded insult. I wouldn't rethink the relationship with that alone but such a comment could probably be the thing that breaks the camels back. Usually women that say that kind of shit seem to lack the proper curiosity in how men really think or respect men's emotions, at the same time as she demands that their partner care about how she'll perceive things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 02:37 PM |
| 2 | Women are championed for their preferences while men are demonizedIt's about not being an asshole about stating your preferences, and there's a gendered difference between what's considered being "assholish". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/24 04:36 PM |
| 1 | What should men do to vet if a woman is safe to be vulnerable with?Then the question becomes: what is a 'good' reaction? Her reacting positively doesn't need to be good always, IMO. There are times when a man opening up is received with enthusiasm, but she's still weird about it afterwards. She starts to assume shit about you and your character, that she might be into, but really isn't you. How do you weed out stuff like that as early as possible too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 04:02 PM |
| 5 | doing "hobbies" together?We have several couples that game together in our gaming club. I feel like that counts... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/24 01:07 PM |
| – | If Society “Doesn’t Hold Women Responsible”, What SHOULD Society Be Doing to Them?Well yes, those behaviors are bad most of the time. It's important to understand where from your arguments come from so that you can authentically convey them to others, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 07:58 PM |
| – | If Society “Doesn’t Hold Women Responsible”, What SHOULD Society Be Doing to Them?Example: Girl says something that makes the guy pull back, her reaction is "I guess he didn't really like me that much". I get overwhelmed by a sense of revulsion for her, when a woman says shit like that. She's... icky. That inability for a woman to see herself as someone with agency grosses me out first, then after the thoughts and reasons come. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 07:55 PM |
| – | If Society “Doesn’t Hold Women Responsible”, What SHOULD Society Be Doing to Them?I've thought about this and I think that a lot of men are trying to rationalize their feelings of disgust for certain behaviors from women. I think it stems from a visceral response to what we perceive as cowardice/unreliability. Talking about 'accountability' is us trying to rationalize those feelings, probably so that it becomes more valid. Don't get me wrong! Those feelings are valid all by themselves, it's OK to feel grossed out by some women's behaviors, but they are feeling and we should o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 05:22 PM |
| – | Most relationships end because men take advantage of their partner and stop putting in effort.That's true for everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/24 07:09 PM |
| – | Most relationships end because men take advantage of their partner and stop putting in effort.It's mostly down to men not having the emotional toolset, or judgement free space, to express their dissatisfaction in a relationship. There are underlying needs that aren't met, but they can't express that in any coherent way, so they just distance themselves in the relationship. Every person is different, but I think that there's a very universal need of feeling appreciated that isn't met. People that are 'chased' often miss believe that them sating 'yes' is the same as acknowledging or apprec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/24 07:08 PM |
| 1 | We're too obsessed about how to "take the lead", but there's very little about how to be the "passive" participant.What makes it bad? The same shit that makes PUA bad, it's created by weirdos that wouldn't know a healthy relationship from a hole in the ground. There's probably more dating advice out there for women than men. Right, I missed this. Woman =/= passive. Passive = passive. From my OP: Being someone that have experienced relationships from both sides, I can definitely say that there's way more info out there about how to make the passive party feel appreciated and make their experience fun than g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/23 12:01 PM |
| 3 | We're too obsessed about how to "take the lead", but there's very little about how to be the "passive" participant.While "being passive" is normally the woman's role, and they don't much trouble with dating so don't really need help with their role. Active/passive doesn't have to be gendered. Having said that, women have constant problems dating. Just because you can get dates or sex, as a woman, doesn't actually mean that you're good at dating or sex. It's just that we often assume that the blame for a failed romantic encounter or relationship lies with the man. Men don't appreciate her, instead of she's no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/23 11:31 AM |
| 1 | We're too obsessed about how to "take the lead", but there's very little about how to be the "passive" participant.What does this have to do about being passive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/23 11:18 AM |
| 1 | We're too obsessed about how to "take the lead", but there's very little about how to be the "passive" participant.Let's be real here, they're not as prevalent as for the active role. Do you think it's bad now? If you're asking if I think that the advice out there is bad then the answer is yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/23 11:17 AM |
| 1 | We're too obsessed about how to "take the lead", but there's very little about how to be the "passive" participant.Your comment indicates your issue is with passive partners in general, which is a different viewpoint entirely. I think that I'm not being clear. Being the passive party doesn't mean that you're not participating. So you're actively passive. You should still, actively, make the other person like being with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/23 11:14 AM |
| 1 | We're too obsessed about how to "take the lead", but there's very little about how to be the "passive" participant.In my OP I mentioned that there's not a lot of advice out there. I should probably edit it and add that the advice should be good as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/23 10:24 AM |
| 1 | We're too obsessed about how to "take the lead", but there's very little about how to be the "passive" participant.Sure, I like it when both people just participate and bring the same energy to the relationship. But that participation can still be shaded a bit differently from person to person. Some might be a little more passive and the other a little more active. So we still back to my main point, there's little advice about how to be passive and a good partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/23 10:15 AM |
| 1 | We're too obsessed about how to "take the lead", but there's very little about how to be the "passive" participant.I don't think just mentioning that someone can play a passive role is enough for it to be called advice. As I said, there's very little advice about this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/23 10:11 AM |
| 1 | We're too obsessed about how to "take the lead", but there's very little about how to be the "passive" participant.I mean the entire point of passivity is that you're along for the ride. There isn't really much to do per se. Nah, that's just being a shitty partner. Both of you agreed to be there, both of you would like to get to know each other and show that you like the other person. That's something you actively participate in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/23 10:09 AM |
| 1 | We're too obsessed about how to "take the lead", but there's very little about how to be the "passive" participant.But they're not actually not advice about the passive party and their role? They seem to be more about the active party, in a backhanded way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/23 09:55 AM |
| 8 | Women do not become more romantic later on in the relationship, women that say this don't actually know how to be that in a way that the other person appreciates.Nope. Sex can be romantic, but it doesn't need to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 03:06 PM |
| 2 | Women shouldn't have to pay halfWhy should women bear kids for there partner yet they dont even provide anything financially in return. If it's 50/50 then they do provide something? Most women can be broodmares, I don't understand why this should be celebrated when it's not a guarantee of them being good parents. In my opinion, women should pay what they can, in proportion of what they earn and then we should tax the total amount, from both parties together, and give it to the people that work in nursing/teaching industry. The… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 03:36 PM |
| 11 | In your opinion, is telling people not to actively search for love and let it come to you good advice?No. You should try, without obsessing over the outcome. It's more about your attitude around the thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 04:43 PM |
| 1 | There's just as many women, as men, that are unsuccessful in romance, and they are so mostly for the same reasons as men.A lot of times that's true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 04:39 PM |
| 1 | There's just as many women, as men, that are unsuccessful in romance, and they are so mostly for the same reasons as men.There are those people, sure. I just think that they don't really talk about that constantly, they just vibing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 04:37 PM |
| 1 | There's just as many women, as men, that are unsuccessful in romance, and they are so mostly for the same reasons as men.Could you expand on that? What do you mean? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 04:34 PM |
| 1 | Cmv : I now believe women are actually right. Maybe mens personalities are a bigger problem than I believedBeing your best self is and making an effort is something I always advocate. I genuinely think that a lot of men don't have any problem with your description or that it's too much all on it self. I think that it feels too much in the context of dating. I think my that if we look at the underlying factors as for why the man in your description is seen as attractive to a lot of women, we'll see why so many men might not like it. I think that you can summarize it like this: It makes their partner f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 04:33 PM |
| -3 | There's just as many women, as men, that are unsuccessful in romance, and they are so mostly for the same reasons as men.They're rejected for the same reasons. Also, setting the bar on an unrealistic level is usually a sign of poor self esteem, a way to save your ego. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 06:38 PM |
| 5 | There's just as many women, as men, that are unsuccessful in romance, and they are so mostly for the same reasons as men.In my own life, the only (straight) women I've ever met who are single are because they're deliberately choosing to be single. I dunno about that. A LOT of the women I know that have chosen to be single seem to act like MGTOWs and have made that a pillar of their personality; constantly mentioning it. They consume media that talks about how awesome it is to be single, they follow influencers that say the same thing, etc. It's like they're trying to convince both me and them how happy they are an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 06:24 PM |
| -6 | There's just as many women, as men, that are unsuccessful in romance, and they are so mostly for the same reasons as men.In most cases, they're alone because they rejected the men that have shown interest, even if that number is much lower than their more attractive peers have been getting. They rejected them because the men they wanted do not want her. More men will approach because that is assumed by men, so there will always be a lot of men that will indiscriminately approach every woman they see. The men she wan't does not want her, and it's because of the same reasons as why some men are unattractive to most … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 06:16 PM |
| 2 | Most "male approaches" are just misunderstandings from womenI was always told that women were brought up to be much more socially aware. That they could read a persons body language and tone of voice better than men. On average that might be the case, but it's extremely overstated. A lot of women actually aren't that great at picking up clues. That's why I always say to guys that they should just be more upfront, when they try to express their interest in a girl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 04:06 PM |
| 3 | Most "male approaches" are just misunderstandings from womenI’m a pretty unsafe looking guy- big, buzzcut, beard, belly, ugly permanent resting bitch face. But I’ve never really had this issue with people. Generally I can talk to anyone because I’m attentive to their feelings from the start and I have a variety of ways to disarm the tension, usually with humor. People might just be more polite to you because you look intimidating. That's my experience as a tall guy, with what others have called an intense energy. People are just more polite because they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 03:58 PM |
| 6 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?I support my kings! Be who you want to be. I... honestly don't really know what's masculine or feminine anymore. I've seen guys do shit that would be considered feminine, but they made it their own thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 05:11 PM |
| 1 | Women have an hard problem knowing what they should put effort into to be more attractive as a long term partner.While I agree effort isn’t always “pursuing” or “clingy,” it can be a delicate balance. Same for men really. I just think that it's weird to have thing kind of either or mentality. Like, you can be the one that's pursued and show effort by making it fun to be pursued, and not so stressful for the other person. It feels like people have an extreme dearth of ideas around this topic. As for manipulation, I would say this can cross into manipulation territory, when you’re talking “playing hard t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/23 08:21 PM |
| 1 | Women have an hard problem knowing what they should put effort into to be more attractive as a long term partner.We know very well what to do, it's just that some of these things sometimes are at our expense, especially when the partner doesn't reciprocate and/or seems to take everything for granted. People can be shitty sometimes, I am well aware of that, so it might be the guys being assholes. But if people don't reciprocate, it might be because they actually don't want those things from you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/23 07:46 PM |
| 1 | Women have an hard problem knowing what they should put effort into to be more attractive as a long term partner.In a long-term relationship, putting in the effort and showing care is extremely important on both sides. In the early dating stages though, it’s often useless or counterproductive for a woman to go out of her way for a man or take on any sort of pursuer role. Put in effort without being the "pursuer". We’ve been told our whole lives not to do that, and at least in my personal experience that advice is correct. It’s a “watch what they do” thing, and men do not respond well to a woman chasing t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/23 07:42 PM |
| 1 | Women have an hard problem knowing what they should put effort into to be more attractive as a long term partner.Bro's love a good pie, that's a straight fact! Works all the time, 80% of the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/23 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: an enthusiastic 3 or a starfish 10?I guess I go against the grain here and say the 3. But there are limits here, of course. Because of: feels like sex is an equal exchange? That sounds like she puts effort into making me enthusiastic, so I'll pick her I guess. Bonus questions: Would your answer change if people found out about it? Would your answer change if she texted you that missed her period? No. No. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 04:14 PM |
| 1 | Women have an hard problem knowing what they should put effort into to be more attractive as a long term partner.If you think that most men are like those here, you're sorely mistaken. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 04:06 PM |
| 1 | what do you think is the main reason for men giving commitment to one girl, but not the other?She needs to be attractive as a long term partner? Honestly, in this case, it's not that who she attracts but who she repulses. You can't be a LTR pick with "this one trick all men hate" or something. She's in the casual category due to who she is. It doesn't matter how "easy" she is, that comes down to personal preferences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 04:04 PM |
| 0 | Women have an hard problem knowing what they should put effort into to be more attractive as a long term partner.Women don't have to worry too much about that, because not many guys actually reject women and expect romance, gifts, compliments That's when you should be more romantic though? But you need to be cognizant of what he wants. That's where women trip up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 03:48 PM |
| 3 | Women have an hard problem knowing what they should put effort into to be more attractive as a long term partner.Nobody should be focusing their search efforts based on what they think the other person wants. You will always get the best results by being yourself and looking for someone who is a compliment to who you actually are. Sure self improvement is important if you have bad behaviors but pretending to be something you aren't just to get a relationship will almost always totally backfire. Yes, I agree with you. But this should be said to people that lack an identity/personality. If we exclude the ext… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 03:43 PM |
| 34 | When women say they want "a little bit of muscle" on a guy they still mean a lot of muscleI dunno, I feel like this isn't a woman only problem, or that we just misjudge the efforts for one gender. I believe that most people don't know much about how muscle-building works. How to eat, train or how to measure progress. Just look at how many believe that the sexual dimporphism in the human species is so big that each gender needs their own diet and training routine to get fit. People just don't know jack shit about this topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 02:41 PM |
| 1 | Femininity is not valued in our societyPeople seem to conflate femininity with being a child or being mentally feeble, I see. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 06:32 AM |
| 1 | Femininity is not valued in our societyI'm not talking about them though? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 04:34 PM |
| 1 | Femininity is not valued in our societySure, after she's pregnant, but if she's decided to "keep a home" before that... Nah, that's really weird. Even if you wanted to have kids, go out and work so that you can help the family save up money for the kid! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 04:16 PM |
| 2 | You get $10,000 if you can make your date reject you in under 1 minute, how do you do it? WEEKLY DISCUSSION TOPICPuke on them! Works every time, 80% of the time. Unless you're dating a freak... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 04:05 PM |
| 2 | Femininity is not valued in our societyMy maternal grandmother was also a stay at home wife and the homemaker type and my grandfather was an abusive jerk. I think that it's the abusive jerk that is important here, not your grandmothers femininity. if you don't think that working women didn't get shit on for working, you're naive My mother is an housewife and all her life she had people saying shitty stuff regarding to taking a paycheck home, she was called a freeloaders and my father's family did not want my dad to marry her for th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 04:04 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The art of approaching women really isn't that complicatedI don't know if you're a woman or not. But approaching a normal woman, as a man, feels very hemmed in. Most of the time you can't be too subtle or too frank, etc. There are subcultures that are better at this. Normally when people have dated other women and experienced how boring and unfulfilling it can be to date women that can only do so as a "traditional woman", that's where you can find people that try to make the dating experience fun for both parties. You kinda have to experience it and go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 08:05 AM |
| – | Do women want emotional vulnerability from men? If so, what do they mean by it?I think that there's a unjustified push back against the very real and valid worry men might have against opening up to women. It is of course true that some women will react badly when their partner opens up. There are 4 billion of us women, and some of us are shitty people, or traumatized people who have no idea what to do with other people's emotions, or people who lack emotional intelligence, or narcissistic people who only care about themselves. You can even see it in your post where you co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 03:59 PM |
| 7 | Any unusual flags/traits you look out for in women?it’s understandable why a lot of women struggle to navigate when it’s less appropriate to use That inability is a red flag. It will affect my life in a negative way, it has affected my life in negative ways already, so a woman that can't handle her shit isn't very attractive to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/23 08:26 PM |
| 10 | Any unusual flags/traits you look out for in women?I'm going to use a harmless example from my life: I tried to teach this woman how to correctly make a jab(the punch), during a self defense class. After a while of her throwing incorrect and girly punches, I realized that she were doing it on purpose. Maybe not consciously, but she were trying to find a way to punch in as much of a feminine way possible. I asked her to pretend to be a bag of meat, just let all that femininity wash away and then try to throw the punch, and the result was like nig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/23 08:21 PM |
| 10 | Any unusual flags/traits you look out for in women?Having a LIST. Not preferences, that's fine, but a LIST. Letting her femininity get in the way of just being a person. Being feminine when it's inappropriate. Having few male friends, or just having male acquaintances. The men in their lives aren't opening up to her or keep her at an emotional distance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/23 07:01 PM |
| 4 | Q4M: What are some positive things about modern feminism?Increase awareness about consent, sexual assault, etc. Advocating for a more sex positive society. Questioning harmful gender roles(but that's probably not exclusive to modern feminism). For dating I would say that it's helping a ton of guys reject or fight women's toxic gendered expectations. That helps guys that care to filter out women that aren't worth a damn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/23 02:53 PM |
| 4 | How could men not take being unsuccessful to heart when women keep insisting that their desires make a ton of sense all the time?Women are losers too... That's it. They make loser decisions and can be just as shitty as men. then how could we expect unsuccessful men not to hate themselves and think of themselves as utter losers? Don't be impressed by them for being women. Don't hate them either, they're not worth the energy. Don't feel that you should protect them. Don't place that much value in p*ssy; don't feel grateful or chosen if you have sex with them. Observe and spot low value women, acknowledge to yourself that th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/23 01:33 PM |
| 1 | CMV: It makes sense that men (particularly ones who had a glow up) don't treat women with much respect.What even do people mean with these guys being disrespectful? That they aren't that impressed by women anymore and that someone that's passive in dating/relationships isn't someone that they should feel gratefulness too. That, if the woman won't at least try, then why sort them higher than a booty call because how would your life be better off if you were in a deeper relationship with them? If that's what we mean with a guy being 'disrespectful' then I think people have a warped view of what dis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 01:32 PM |
| – | The main reason why men like young girls is NOT fertility/beauty.I think that society fetish youth, specifically women's youth. We have too rosy of a picture of the average young persons fitness level. *shrugs* What can you do? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 12:54 PM |
| 2 | “Children need fathers” is propaganda to push a Men Are Wonderful bias.Plenty of women stayed with abusers because they were told they should stay for the sake of the children and get shamed out of being single moms. I have a family friend who went back to her abuser due to that mindset. What happened to your friend isn't good or her or the kids. But shaming single mothers and celebrating a fathers role in a child's life are two different things. You’re underestimating how people will go off the deep end to fit a narrative with no nuance involved. Just like sayin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 12:48 PM |
| – | The main reason why men like young girls is NOT fertility/beauty.They have less signs of aging. Their tits haven't sagged yet and they have less cellulite. They, more often than not, just look fitter. That's probably the most common reason. Culturally, we also fixate on youth and innocence to an unhealthy degree. That probably plays a big role as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 12:31 PM |
| 2 | “Children need fathers” is propaganda to push a Men Are Wonderful bias.Your experiences have been different from mine, because it’s just been used to shit on single mothers by misogynists and just explain away crime by politicians, especially the conservative ones. Right, I've seen this happen too. But I think that it's them weaponizing something good. That doesn't mean that the idea is bad. A man with multiple mental illness who refuses to get treatment and has a history of violence should NOT be around his children. I feel like that the expectation that the fathe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 12:23 PM |
| 1 | “Children need fathers” is propaganda to push a Men Are Wonderful bias.Are these examples you've picked connected to some broader point, because I can't see it? Do you think that anyone here denies that there are bad fathers out there or that some people are psychopaths? What do you think people mean when they say "Children need fathers?" Ethan Crumbley having a father in his life did not stop from being a school shooter. In fact, his parents bought him the gun and ignored signs/reports of their son’s disturbing mentality. Where the fuck is the discipline? Isn't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 12:08 PM |
| 3 | Men do not respond to wordsThis seems childish and I would not react well to it at all. Better is to talk with men like they have their own priorities wants in the relationship. Don't interpret them not knowing what you want as them not caring but as them not being mind readers. Because, let's be clear, you're not a mind reader either and probably miss a lot of things that he would like to be done by you. Speak like you want to be spoken to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 11:52 AM |
| 14 | CMV: I think women on these subreddit are more likely to get men to have negative perception of women than redpill communityOne thing that always annoys me is this kind of one sided appeal to individuality, when men here want to talk about common negative experiences, with women, that they've experienced in their life. You can have threads where women(or men) can ask: why so many men think or do X? Or women can talk about something that's a universal experience, when dealing with men. These things are all OK, as they should be, because everybody are mature enough to understand that we're not talking about all men, bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 11:40 AM |
| 0 | Like Attracts Like. If you feel like you're getting the short end of the stick in your dating/relationships, you should stop going for that stick!Men don't have choice. You always have a choice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 06:09 PM |
| -1 | Like Attracts Like. If you feel like you're getting the short end of the stick in your dating/relationships, you should stop going for that stick!Your entire post is based on the ideia of that peoples find what they deserve as if the world is this cosmic balanced thing where a external power make things fair. No, I'm saying that your biases and values changes how you interact with the world and the decisions you make. That will affect who you end up with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 06:07 PM |
| 1 | Like Attracts Like. If you feel like you're getting the short end of the stick in your dating/relationships, you should stop going for that stick!You know the saying "opposites attract"? But opposites attract usually because both parties usually care about what they're opposite on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 01:22 PM |
| 2 | Like Attracts Like. If you feel like you're getting the short end of the stick in your dating/relationships, you should stop going for that stick!But... that's not what I said though? Like, you can try to build muscle but have shit genetics or some medical problem and never achieve your physique, that doesn't mean that training and someone's level of fitness doesn't share a link with each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 01:21 PM |
| 7 | Like Attracts Like. If you feel like you're getting the short end of the stick in your dating/relationships, you should stop going for that stick!Problem is, the treatment you receive also largely depends on your physical attractiveness. It's not "what you sow, you will reap" every time, not even close. I never said that it's fair or justice, I even said so. But, if you hang with a crowd that believe it's OK to treat other people like shit then why be with those people, what do you have in common with them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 11:35 AM |
| 1 | Women are valued for what they doIf I can ask, how different do you show that ? Less emotionally charged, more casual and appreciative? Hard to say exactly, it's vibes based. It's also important to note that women are flooded with compliments validating their looks. To many of us It's a drop of water into the ocean, so I can understand that they aren't really thrilled by them when its their first interaction with someone. I get that, but I'm talking about women seeing men's casual attraction and appreciation, to things outside … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 04:42 PM |
| 1 | Women are valued for what they doSure, I agree with you. But I think that there's a problem around what we think male attention/attraction should look like. If I find a woman hot, I will flirt in a certain way. If I think that something about her personality is attractive, I will show it in a different way. Doesn't mean that I don't find it attractive, but I won't act the same, because it isn't the same. I found that a lot of women view this as men not caring about their personality, which is wrong. It does show that they have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 04:22 PM |
| 2 | Women are valued for what they doDo you know what happens, a lot of the time, when I'm being friendly and compliment a woman for something other than her looks? She thanks me and is happy and I'm happy too. Do you know the best way to show her that you're flirting? You compliment something about her appearance. Do you know what often happens if I compliment something other than her looks, while trying to flirt? She thanks me, but there is a very good chance that she misses those hints. Also, there's a sizable minority of women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 04:12 PM |
| 1 | Women are valued for what they doOur personal accomplishments don’t mean shit. That’s for the girls. Most men don’t care if we do really well at work. They don’t care if we have cool hobbies. So all the guys crying about women being loved for themselves don’t know anything about the female experience. I've asked for an explanation, from several women, what men caring would look like. From the replies I've gotten, I've concluded that they want a man that gets hard because they're part of the debate club or something; it's all ab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 03:53 PM |
| 2 | What are some observable examples of desirable traits for you?What are some ways you observe these traits outside a relationship? Before choosing to date a woman? I can only speak for myself but I like women that can get over that they're women, socially, and can actually be good "partners". I like women and I like femininity, but if the fact that you're a woman is in the way of you being a good partner then you're toxic. The traits you listed, the issue lies with that there's an assumption that those come with being feminine presenting, so a lot of women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 10:13 AM |
| 2 | What are some observable examples of desirable traits for you?Can men actually tell the difference between "making sure you're actually interested before sex" and "frigid and hesitant"? It's not really my job to tell the difference between these two things. I can only go by how she acts. Personally, there's so much energy that I can give to figure out why she acts the way she does, relationships/dates with someone that wants you to be a mind reader is just not pleasant or fun. I can only signal that I'm interested in sex, and if she's down to that but late… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 09:47 AM |
| – | been on a few dates in the past couple of months and a lot of men praise me for simply not being a Western woman? i wonder what's up with that? I don't mind it but it puzzles me (MEN only pls, but women are also welcome to contribute)Yup! You do you, you seem like a good person :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 01:14 PM |
| – | been on a few dates in the past couple of months and a lot of men praise me for simply not being a Western woman? i wonder what's up with that? I don't mind it but it puzzles me (MEN only pls, but women are also welcome to contribute)I guess I don’t understand how any of those compliments matter if you are a traditional woman but yet still single. How about just being a good person? This is kinda sexist, because you're saying that women should only be nice to manipulate people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 01:13 PM |
| – | been on a few dates in the past couple of months and a lot of men praise me for simply not being a Western woman? i wonder what's up with that? I don't mind it but it puzzles me (MEN only pls, but women are also welcome to contribute)Caught you red handed huh? Anybody with a pulse could see that you were mocking her, and trying to belittle her statements, not just making a joke. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 01:09 PM |
| – | been on a few dates in the past couple of months and a lot of men praise me for simply not being a Western woman? i wonder what's up with that? I don't mind it but it puzzles me (MEN only pls, but women are also welcome to contribute)things like that. the dating pool's not perfect for both genders. i've had pleasant dates and great experiences and when it doesn't work out i break it off and make it clear there are no hard feelings. Yeah, I agree that there are assholes out there. It's just weird that they think that if men show appreciation to you MUST lead to them wifing you up. Like there's nothing else about what men or you want in a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 01:05 PM |
| – | been on a few dates in the past couple of months and a lot of men praise me for simply not being a Western woman? i wonder what's up with that? I don't mind it but it puzzles me (MEN only pls, but women are also welcome to contribute)Is this what people mean when they talk about "Schrodinger's asshole"? Like, you didn't just make a "joke", let's get real. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 12:58 PM |
| – | been on a few dates in the past couple of months and a lot of men praise me for simply not being a Western woman? i wonder what's up with that? I don't mind it but it puzzles me (MEN only pls, but women are also welcome to contribute)Maybe they're not compatible in other ways? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 12:45 PM |
| – | been on a few dates in the past couple of months and a lot of men praise me for simply not being a Western woman? i wonder what's up with that? I don't mind it but it puzzles me (MEN only pls, but women are also welcome to contribute)When a woman tells me how someone isn't like other men, and that she's grateful for that, are those men "pick me's", and are those women toxic? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 12:43 PM |
| 2 | Most women's gendered expectations of men are toxic, and it helped to form the manosphere into what it is today.The bigger question is why there are so many losers and shitty men in general? The mansphere wouldn’t exist if men weren’t treating women like commodities and objects in the first place. The men that are in the mansphere are looking for ways to get back at women or how to use them. Never to learn how to be a better person and treat women with dignity. This post is a doozy. While I agree that the manosphere is toxic, and that it teaches men to be more toxic. I don't think that most of the men see… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 12:38 PM |
| 2 | Newbie Question: Why did Roosh V and Andrew Tate only got popular after saying "Shocking" and "Controversial" statements is that a reflection as to what it takes to be "popular" in American Culture?While both Roosh and Tate got popular once they started to say offensive or shocking options. Which instead of making the manopshere look "good" it makes us look "bad." The whole "overtone" window comes into mind. Like it or not, being audacious will make people pay attention to you. Then if you sprinkle in shit that you kinda agree with, people will think you're more complex than you are and begin to feel that it's OK to stay and listen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 12:12 PM |
| – | Most men and women are really bad at detecting flirtingWhile I agree that people have a hard time with noticing if someone's flirting with them, I would lay the majority of the blame on people not knowing how to flirt. In communication, it's important to know how to listen actively, but it's also very important to understand how to tailor your message to your audience; What's the best way for you to get your message across. One thing that most people have an issue with is that they have a very unreasonable idea about how flirting should be done. It … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 12:08 PM |
| 2 | Most women's gendered expectations of men are toxic, and it helped to form the manosphere into what it is today.and frankly I don’t know why you’d want to go out of your way to seek companionship with a woman when you clearly find them to be vapid, shallow, hypergamous gold digging attention whores. Are you on the right post? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 10:12 PM |
| 2 | Most women's gendered expectations of men are toxic, and it helped to form the manosphere into what it is today.OK, why do you want to know? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 09:18 PM |
| 1 | Most women's gendered expectations of men are toxic, and it helped to form the manosphere into what it is today.How should they act if they want to be perceived as confident? two rows, two fucking rows beneath what you quoted: There's very little space there for nuance and room for a man to be seen as a unique person. If a man doesn't do X, because of his gender he's perceived as shy or timid, because he failed to do something "men do if they're confident". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 09:10 PM |
| 9 | Most women's gendered expectations of men are toxic, and it helped to form the manosphere into what it is today....but that's not what you had a problem with though, you had an issue with generalization in general. I'm actually pretty frustrated with these arguments. There are a ton of things, that are mostly based on the lived experiences of women, about how MEN do this and do that and it's generally fine. It's only when we talk about men's lived experiences about women when people, in bad fucking faith, start to whine about how not all women are monoliths and how it's crazy to even see gender in the fir… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 09:05 PM |
| 5 | Most women's gendered expectations of men are toxic, and it helped to form the manosphere into what it is today.Men still treat women like little princesses that need protection. What are you talking about. It's so laughable that you men will never critisize other men. I don't really know who you're talking about, or who you're talking with at this point. It certainly not me, because I've even stated that the manosphere is toxic in OP | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 08:54 PM |
| 2 | Most women's gendered expectations of men are toxic, and it helped to form the manosphere into what it is today.All of this is baggage given to us by people that are long dead. That doesn't mean jack shit when we're talking about how we treat, and how we should treat, each other inter-personally today. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 08:46 PM |
| 1 | Most women's gendered expectations of men are toxic, and it helped to form the manosphere into what it is today.(And we are all different. I myself expect very little confidence from my partner. He is a shy fellow and not particularly assertive, but he's exactly who I want.) *Sigh* Please don't get stuck on the confidence thing, it is an example. To get back on topic, I think that there's a difference between general confidence and what how men should act like if they are to be perceived as confident. There's very little space there for nuance and room for a man to be seen as a unique person. If a man doe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 08:41 PM |
| 18 | Most women's gendered expectations of men are toxic, and it helped to form the manosphere into what it is today.I'm trying to come up with an example that kinda captures the... spirit of my point. This isn't the only way that these things manifest though. I think that one thing that I've stopped doing is, if I've taken up some sort of hobby that might be coded as "girly", is to tell most women about it. I tell some women I can trust and I'm OK with talking with guys about it, since they'll usually just go "huh" or "weird". A lot of women, a majority of the women I've met honestly, are so fucking weird and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 08:30 PM |
| 8 | Most women's gendered expectations of men are toxic, and it helped to form the manosphere into what it is today.These are examples: The majority of all violent crimes are done by men, not all men are criminals all men aren't to blame for violent crime. Not talking about crime and not bringing that up would be crazy The fashion industry mainly see women as their market, not all women use makeup, but it's still important to the discussion about the makeup industry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 08:07 PM |
| 5 | Most women's gendered expectations of men are toxic, and it helped to form the manosphere into what it is today.A statement about what I wrote, though? Like, whose denying what otherwise? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 07:58 PM |
| 5 | Most women's gendered expectations of men are toxic, and it helped to form the manosphere into what it is today.You're not being "blamed" for anything. Also, what does it matter where these perceptions come from when I'm talking about the actions of women now? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 07:54 PM |
| 7 | Most women's gendered expectations of men are toxic, and it helped to form the manosphere into what it is today.To deny that men create harmful standards for women just as women do is to deny all of history! Am I denying this in my post? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 07:50 PM |
| 5 | Most women's gendered expectations of men are toxic, and it helped to form the manosphere into what it is today.Most gendered expectations can justly be seen as problematic, some should be seen as more problematic than others while others are bothersome but innocent/silly. Some are so extreme that they're a threat to someones physical or mental health. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 07:43 PM |
| 6 | Most women's gendered expectations of men are toxic, and it helped to form the manosphere into what it is today.Manosphere men are saying this. I'm not, and I've never heard another woman talk about men this way. Maybe you don't see it because you don't experience it? It's not directed at you so a comment might seem innocent but might bother a man due to it's implications about what "type" of man he is perceived as and what kind of treatment/love/respect women signal that they will be willing to give to him in a potential relationship, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 07:39 PM |
| 0 | Most women's gendered expectations of men are toxic, and it helped to form the manosphere into what it is today.What do you think women think confident men should look like and what do they actually look like? I used confidence as an example, I don't want to talk about confidence exclusively. But in broad strokes, what's considered as a confident man by women is extreme(almost inhuman) and needs to be maintained constantly, any little deviation from this and a woman will most likely demote him to a different caste of man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 07:28 PM |
| 11 | Most women's gendered expectations of men are toxic, and it helped to form the manosphere into what it is today.Yes, it's a societal problem. Yes, men police other men too. Yes, there are women that have healthy ideas about men. I still think that there are trends with how a lot of women deal with masculinity, that are noteworthy in how toxic they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 07:19 PM |
| 21 | Most women's gendered expectations of men are toxic, and it helped to form the manosphere into what it is today.Are we blaming women for everything toxic these days? Am I blaming women for everything toxic? Is talking about bad behavior, that women might have a majority hand in, blaming them for that problem? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 06:30 PM |
| 1 | CMV Women aren't usually lazy and entitled, they're usually just insecure (like men)This is actually becoming kinda interesting. Why will you approaching mean that the man is getting a "freebie", how can that actually happen every time you approach? Are you like those guys that're so nervous that they just agree to everything the woman asks of them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 06:25 PM |
| 6 | CMV Women aren't usually lazy and entitled, they're usually just insecure (like men)Everyone has their own story and motives. You got yours, but so has the guys that "wronged you". Maybe they're assholes? Maybe they had sex with you and later on decided that you're incompatible in different areas of the relationship? I don't know, neither do I want to know. What I can say is that people that are too chickenshit to approach, and aren't terribly introspective, usually have these kinds of lame ass excuses about how it's the other side that keeps them from initiating. It's just som… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 06:12 PM |
| 6 | CMV Women aren't usually lazy and entitled, they're usually just insecure (like men)Women don’t approach and initiate because men will take the sex and run. This is just women coping just so that they can't admit that they're too insecure or inept to approach and lay the blame of their cowardice onto someone else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 05:52 PM |
| – | CMV Women aren't usually lazy and entitled, they're usually just insecure (like men)Men see being approached as a sign of desperation, neediness, or sluttiness in women and punish them for this (often subconsciously) by either using them for sex, not taking them seriously for dating, or treating them badly within the relationship itself. This is in part to cover for their feeling of being emasculated or entirely because of that. This is JUST cope, poor social skills and insecurity. This kind of thinking stems from the individual being so much in their head or not being able to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 05:33 PM |
| 1 | CMV Women aren't usually lazy and entitled, they're usually just insecure (like men)You just need to ask women about what they consider as a guy rejecting her to see that you're right. Like, you thinking that the guy, that's busy or maybe preoccupied with his life, isn't noticing how you're hovering around him is him rejecting you is kinda wild to me. Sad and pathetic, really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 04:25 PM |
| – | Why is the question, "What do you bring to the table?" so offensive to some?If you're literally talking about the question, as it's stated, then it's because it's considered rude and blunt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 11:46 AM |
| 2 | Do you care about morals when choosing a partner?when i was 19, i didn’t care. i was young and naive. i dated a guy who bullied other people and was an “alpha male”, and kinda liked the idea of him having a soft spot for me. turns out, he was abusive. If he wasn't abusive to you and truly did have a soft spot for you, but was a bully to other people, would you be OK with dating him? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 05:11 AM |
| 10 | If women really like you they’ll approach you. How much truth is there to this?Some interested women will approach, some wont. I mean... what else is there to discuss? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 06:23 PM |
| 4 | The real reason for forever girlfriend / f*ckzoned womenWhat irks me with the "men are afraid of commitment" whining is that we, as a society, have a hard time acknowledging that it comes from women that are, quite honestly, losers. That for most of these women, that's the best they can get because of personal failings. These women are what I would classify as the woman version of incels. They're socialized to be pleasant and, due to dating dynamics, they can get a man to invest in them at first, but there's something with them that triggers men's "i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 06:16 PM |
| 1 | What's the difference between "toxic masculinity" and "toxic femininity"? Or it's just that there are toxic people?Every toxic person that I know has a sob story about why they are an asshole. It's never their fault, they have to do it because it's how the world works! They may even be right, society and their circumstances might have played a part in how they developed, but that's never an excuse. It's always dangerous to use sociological observations to justify personal failings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/23 10:58 AM |
| 1 | Are men always expected to be the entertainers on dates? Or maybe even in relationships?Mutual enjoyment of each other's company is an important part of it. I think that this is what people mean with entertainment, to put in effort to make the date enjoyable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/23 10:45 AM |
| 1 | Are men always expected to be the entertainers on dates? Or maybe even in relationships?How is asking what someone likes to do a form of being lazy, and how is answering that question mentally straining? Jeez, what does it say about someone if they have a hard time talking it out with the person they're interested in? If he’s trying to date her shouldn’t he know a little about what she likes to begin with? Knowing what her hobbies are and what she'd like to do to get to know someone might not be the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/23 10:42 AM |
| 1 | Are men always expected to be the entertainers on dates? Or maybe even in relationships?Most feminists would hate what I'm saying, since I actually think that women have autonomy and the ability to take accountability and responsibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/23 10:36 AM |
| 3 | Are men always expected to be the entertainers on dates? Or maybe even in relationships?I've noticed that the definition of 'simp' changes, depending on who's saying it. Most women don't really go for what I would call simps, only a minority of women do. Men shouldn't date those women anyway, they're usually pretty toxic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/23 10:33 AM |
| 1 | Are men always expected to be the entertainers on dates? Or maybe even in relationships?That is a women knowing her worth. If a women has to go on a date feeling worried or stress about trying to entertain HIM then she is not going to be the best version of herself. It's how she deals with the stress and worry that determines her worth, everybody's a little stressed, that's life. If the "best" version of herself is not being able to deal with rejection or nervousness, so much so that she's justifying not trying with some femcel BS, then she's bottom of the barrel. It's pretty muc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 05:04 PM |
| 1 | Are men always expected to be the entertainers on dates? Or maybe even in relationships?Men don't care about dates and they are spending money on them. What? Even if we go by gender stereotypes this isn't true. Most men I know and talk to like dating. Women like to go on dates because she is being taken care of, not because she wants to put in effort to woo the guy. I know that there's women out there that think like this, but they're usually shit partners. That was my original point. The guy is already wooed if he is spending money on a date with her and she knows that. If you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 04:24 PM |
| 2 | Are men always expected to be the entertainers on dates? Or maybe even in relationships?I don't understand what you're trying to say with this post. Are you trying to say that women don't have any reason for going out on dates, that it's only the men with agency? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 03:52 PM |
| 2 | Are men always expected to be the entertainers on dates? Or maybe even in relationships?Women, imo, normally show relationship appreciation later on in life, after you marry her. With thing like taking care of the home and chores, birthing babies, raising the children, making thanksgiving dinner, wrapping the Christmas presents..ect. The things that MEN don't put as much effort into but it somehow gets done. How she acts on dates tells you a lot about how she'll be as a partner. Even if she's into you and puts in effort for you but doesn't feel like she needs to make the date somew… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 03:23 PM |
| 29 | Are men always expected to be the entertainers on dates? Or maybe even in relationships?A lot of women do have some sort of expectation of being wooed, a lot of them also think that showing up and gracing us with their presence is actually them putting in effort, the question is how men should think about the whole thing. In my opinion men should just assume that if she expects a LOT of energy from you up front, then she'll be a shit partner over all. Even if she is putting in the effort with you, you'll notice that it's not something that she's used to and that will tell you how s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 03:18 PM |
| -3 | What is your opinion on the sub “Mens Lib”?They're pretty cool. Lately, it seems to have become a collection of articles and not a place for discussion. Maybe there should be a different sub that is more focused on discussions or debates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 11:03 AM |
| 0 | Being a bad boy is very beneficial when it comes to being respected by peers and attracting womenWhat the fuck do people even mean with a bad boy, are they talking about an abuser or a bully? So there's someone that's putting people down and making others feel like shit or they're profiting on others misery somehow, some women see this and are turned on by that. You guys think that those women are something to write home about, the fuck would you want to be with a woman like that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 11:00 AM |
| 1 | Men have to learn how to bypass the ick factor by observing the men who shouldn’t be successful*waves* Hi! So, I'm not "ugly", I think I have a ton of good qualities. but I'm fucked in all kinds of ways. ADHD, kinda shy, slight man boobs(despite being thin), have hang ups and insecurities, etc. I still do alright with women. My advice to all of you is to be authentic to who you are but calibrate it to your surroundings, and be healthily selfish and choosy. My biggest advice to guys is to follow the "Moth Method"TM Like a moth, you go near the things you like and distance yourself from thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 10:51 AM |
| 1 | Most (straight)mens relationship woes stems from believing that being choosy is being cruel/mean to women OR that you can't afford being choosy in your mate selection.Also women do bring more to a relationship then their presence. That’s all some men want and all men see though. They’re seen as an achievement and a trophy to look at. I keep hearing this. Couldn't it just be that some people aren't bringing enough to a relationship? Like, we can admit that a lot of guys do so, why is it so hard to believe that a lot of women aren't really catches as well? None of that was at you specifically. It was a royal you to people with that mentality It's cool! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 10:17 AM |
| 1 | Most (straight)mens relationship woes stems from believing that being choosy is being cruel/mean to women OR that you can't afford being choosy in your mate selection.You can still hook up with the losers, if that's what you want to do. It's usually easier, when you have higher standards, because you approach her with the right energy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 10:10 AM |
| 1 | Most (straight)mens relationship woes stems from believing that being choosy is being cruel/mean to women OR that you can't afford being choosy in your mate selection.It depends on what you're after in a partner and you individual situation, but I've found that 8/10 times, if you're a bit more choosy then you'll start to look for partners that will make you more motivated to approach and date. It'll make you more motivated to improve yourself and that will lead to more partners over all. It's a positive feedback loop. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 10:07 AM |
| -2 | Most (straight)mens relationship woes stems from believing that being choosy is being cruel/mean to women OR that you can't afford being choosy in your mate selection.You know, having good standards and boundaries would probably screen out the loser women. This will lead to meeting people that are more compatible and nicer and that will lead to higher satisfaction in ones love life, which will lead to more success, because you're more motivated in going out and trying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 06:19 PM |
| 2 | Most (straight)mens relationship woes stems from believing that being choosy is being cruel/mean to women OR that you can't afford being choosy in your mate selection.Well, I have ADHD and some of those bubbles resonate with me. If I've gotten some good advice I would've listened to them. The issue is what's considered self-sabotage, for a man, is extremely toxic. What boundaries or standards I'm allowed to have, before people start believing that I'm "self sabotaging" is extremely limited. I dunno why that is and why this issue is so gendered? Is it because we just assume that women are good partners and so there have to be something weird with the guy, if h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 06:16 PM |
| 2 | Most (straight)mens relationship woes stems from believing that being choosy is being cruel/mean to women OR that you can't afford being choosy in your mate selection.Everyone can be choosy. Also, I firmly believe that not being choosy and not having much success is connected. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 12:34 PM |
| 6 | Most (straight)mens relationship woes stems from believing that being choosy is being cruel/mean to women OR that you can't afford being choosy in your mate selection.I'm actually pretty open to criticism and advice and I'm somebody that needed a lot of advice before. This was about the type of reaction that I got, not the advice in of itself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 12:32 PM |
| 0 | What are everyone on here's thoughts on paternity testing?If it's a paternity test this year, it's a tracker next year. It doesn't end unless you treat it. Most people who cheat use protection, it's not like a paternity test actually proves anything. I agree with the trust thrust of your points. But I think you have to remember that becoming a parent, even for men, is a huge deal. Not just psychologically, I believe I've read that it triggers hormonal changes in a male body. It's a time with a lot of heightened emotions, for everybody around. Basically… | /r/ExRedPill | 26/02/23 03:09 PM |
| 0 | What are everyone on here's thoughts on paternity testing?People aren't always rational like that. They can thrust you, as a person, but not the situation that they're in. Someone can look at a partner, just casually talking with someone of a different gender and suddenly become a bit jealous. Even if there's no reason for it, because the other person is out as gay. They KNOW that it's stupid, but they still feel the way they feel. People can look down a cliff and suddenly get the urge to just throw themselves off it, even when they're not suicidal. Pe… | /r/ExRedPill | 26/02/23 02:41 PM |
| 1 | What are everyone on here's thoughts on paternity testing?People are irrational, their needs are irrational. A kid is a big fucking deal, and emotions around having one are usually high. As long as they're not weird about it, asking for a paternity test isn't a big ask. It doesn't mean that they suspect that their partner's cheating. Is it ideal for someone to worry about it, not really. But people aren't ideal and if you can't deal with a man being anxious about becoming a father, then you probably have some weird ideas about men's emotions and how mu… | /r/ExRedPill | 26/02/23 12:59 PM |
| 1 | Women actually don't like it when men judge other things than their looks.I think that I have a problem with articulating my points. I see that you focus on the interpersonal, what's going on between a woman and a man, and that's fine in of itself. What I'm trying to look at are on the societal level. These things are interlinked, but I'm trying to focus on how we talk about things - and how cultural norms shape these things - not so much on what's being said between two people. What I'm trying to say is that men, on a societal level, are discouraged to even formulate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/22 08:00 PM |
| 3 | Gender relations, and dating for men in particular, would be much improved if there weren’t so much societal pressure for men to get laidI think that there's different kinds of societal pressures, explicit and implicit ones, this might fall more on the implicit side. All kinds of subtle markers and suggestions that coagulate into expectations for someones behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/22 03:05 PM |
| 2 | Do Hallmark style romantic movies endorse TRP Views?My knee jerk response would be yes. If I step back a second and think about it, then it's a bit more complicated. He is made out to be a bad guy because he acts exactly how people in the real world behave. Yes, you need to give importance to work and can't just drop everything to satisfy the whims of the female protagonist. This good guy doesn't give the woman any excitement that she craves. Another another guy does maybe even an Ex-BF who did not treat the wlman well in the past. This other guy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/22 02:59 PM |
| 1 | Anyone notice that in a lot of male-oriented space, the general consensus is that they hold themselves accountable for their self improvement, while in female-oriented spaces, they focus on placating their members?Red pill spaces aren't as supportive, that's true. Feeling good about oneself is only allowed if you fulfill certain conditions. They are focused on external factors as well. They have an extremely narrow view about masculinity and what it means to be a man, and you're not allowed to deviate from it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/22 02:17 PM |
| 1 | Women actually don't like it when men judge other things than their looks.I mean, I dunno. I've always thought men greatly undervalued if a woman is comfortable to be around or open up to. Almost to the point of it being cartoonish. I'm thinking of the guys who seem to act like the only thing a woman can add to a man's life is sex, childcare, and not fucking other guys. Most of the time, when men discuss what qualities they should look for in women, it's always implied/assumed that a woman already have what he should need. He's doing something wrong if he can't find t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/22 02:06 PM |
| 1 | Women actually don't like it when men judge other things than their looks.The thing that gets a pushback are when men judge things like if a woman is comfortable to be around, worthy to open up with. When men start to discuss those things, it gets heavily policed by women. What men should consider girlfriend material is kept, usually by the threat of the woman being able to get someone else easier than him, artificially low, and a lot of women feel like they're allowed to cut and have a greater say in the matter than the man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 03:55 PM |
| 4 | What’s the female version of game?Depends on if you want a short term thing or a long term partner. It's in the search for a long term partner where women can have 'game'. The guiding principle would be: Don't be work, be a partner and not an employer. With that said, if you're asking yourself how to make men approach you, then you've failed because you're looking for a way for them to work for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 03:15 PM |
| 0 | Women actually don't like it when men judge other things than their looks.Believe it or not most women are just seeking out a decent partner, not hoping for some guy to be “impressed” with them. Living with this weird idea that most women are constantly conniving and dishonest must be exhausting. Less conniving and dishonest and more lacking self awareness about what messages/vibes they send to men, on this specific topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/22 04:13 AM |
| 11 | Women actually don't like it when men judge other things than their looks.Women being angry when you're not impressed by her just showing up is a pretty common occurrence. Seeing any question about what she brings to the table as a grave insult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/22 03:42 AM |
| 0 | Women actually don't like it when men judge other things than their looks.Example on what, specifically? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/22 02:39 AM |
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