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| 1 | Assuming traditional gender norms in dating, what do women offer in the initial dating stages?The initial dating stages are not about offering anything, they are about learning more about the other person, having a good time, connecting, and see how you feel about them. Many guys just go for a coffee and don't sweat about what they will get in return if they pay for it. You can even have a date without spending money at all. Jeez, what's with that economic thinking? Being with a person is so much more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 07:57 AM |
| 1 | Mens quality of life and health is poor because of women’s workplace needsIt will get better, I am sure, and I don't think that it's even as bad as you say. Female nurses and female flight attendants who know their male collegues would laugh about this bias. And office work is just a neutral job, nobody thinks anything of it. Men should stop caring about what women think about their jobs and do their thing. You love to fly and want to travel the world? Become a pilot or a flight attendant. Who cares. You will meet so many cool people in aviation and see new places. Yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 06:15 AM |
| 3 | Q4Men: For Men Who Think Most Dating Advice is "Unhelpful", What Would You Prefer?I believe they are already aware of what that blunt advice is: work on your appearance and your personality, become an interesting person, and get your life in order. What else is there to advise? Everything else is luck. Working on yourself is a constant process that requires dedication, and I can imagine that it's too much effort for some men. They go online and still hope to find an easier way or some secret wisdom. The truth is, there is no sectret wisdom, and anyone who tries to sell you su… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/23 03:42 PM |
| 4 | Dating is now framed as a “market place”. What if my value is not something that can be shown but experienced?In that case keep talking to people in RL and stay away from online dating which in fact is nothing but a market. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/23 12:51 PM |
| 6 | Mens quality of life and health is poor because of women’s workplace needsYour other points have been already addressed so I'd like to comment on this: Because if a man wants to be an office worker of any kind that’s not management he’s considered less of a man. I don't know how you imagine an office worker but a lot of men have office jobs / jobs where they sit behind a desk. Aren't most of the jobs nowadays office jobs? Nobody consideres them 'less of a man' except red pillers perhaps. Beside office jobs there are plenty other jobs for men that don't require any phy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/23 08:28 AM |
| – | I hate how society has idealized and romanticized people from bad homes as suitable long-term relationship partners.Where/how does society idealize people from bad homes? Where have you got this idea from? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/23 07:05 AM |
| 2 | Women are more logical with relationships, men are more emotionalwomen love sex just as much as men, if not more That's really true, but I'd like to throw in that women care more about the quality of sex and men about quantity. Therefore, women would choose having great sex once a week over having meh sex daily. Meh sex is even a turn off, whereas you can't get enough of fully satisfactory, amazing sex. Whenever a man complains about a dead bedroom I bet most of the time it's because of the low quality of sex (read: the man not truly attending to the woman's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/23 06:50 AM |
| 3 | Does the ages of men on TV, in the media, or in politics affect peoples preferences in dating and relationships?...often push the older man dating a young woman dynamic down everyone's throats... This! And it's not simply an older man, it's a much! older man. The propaganda is hilariously obvious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/23 09:19 PM |
| 1 | Romantic love in the West is basically full of fundamental contradictions... no wonder it is a mess.It's not only the West. The problems are global, and the reasons are of cultural, economic and political nature. Example South Korea: N-po generation movement + 4B movement Example China: The Last Generation movement | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/23 06:33 PM |
| 6 | Hypothetical scenario: You have to make the first move. Namely, verbal move (or an explicitly romantic physical move). How/what would you do?No flirting at all? Ok... Hey, on Friday I'm going to do xyz, and I was thinking how much nicer it would be if you went there with me. Would you like to? And if I don't know him at all: Hi, I'm... I hope I'm not bothering you right now but would you like to go for a coffee with me? I'd like to learn more about you. I hope it's ok if I kiss you right now. I've been thinking about it since... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/23 03:03 PM |
| 1 | Would it be a dealbreaker to you if a man lied about his height by saying he is shorter than he is?Then we have observed very different things, which is ok. Now we need some scientific studies to show us what is real. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/23 02:08 PM |
| 1 | Would it be a dealbreaker to you if a man lied about his height by saying he is shorter than he is?Cultural preferences for height can vary widely around the world due to historical, social, and cultural factors. For example, in Latin America, East Asia, and I daresay Eastern Europe (I have many friends there) there is definitely less emphasis on height as a marker of masculinity or attractiveness compared to the US. Even if a woman likes her man to be taller than herself, there is no obsession with 6'+. As for men, in Africa and Middle East men prefer their women much more curvy than let's s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/23 12:57 PM |
| 0 | There are no benefits to having kids as a womenI share your view, OP. The risks of everything that you have listed are simply too high in our current society. It was different for our grandparents. Life was different, family bonds were stronger, society was less crazy. If you found a decent man having children with him didn't feel like a death sentence. I could go on forever, but I actually only wanted to include a link to the actual birth process, for women to know what to expect, and for men to know what women go through during childbirth.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/23 09:58 AM |
| 4 | There are no benefits to having kids as a womenNeither your ex mother in law nor the other childless woman are representative or relevant, they are isolated cases. With a world population of 8 billion you will find anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/23 09:37 AM |
| 1 | Would it be a dealbreaker to you if a man lied about his height by saying he is shorter than he is?P.S. "oh no she's so much skinnier and attractive what am I going to do, noooooo" lol Men, just like women, have different types and tastes too, you know. Only because you personally prefer A doesn't mean that someone else wouldn't prefer B. Honestly, how young are you? Get some life experience and leave the childish black-and-white thinking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/23 09:10 AM |
| 1 | Would it be a dealbreaker to you if a man lied about his height by saying he is shorter than he is?I never said I wouldn't care about him being attractive. Of course I do. For a long term relationship though I care a lot about his character too, and if it has major flaws that make me suspicious I'm not interested. It's not like he would be the last or the only attractive man on the planet. Besides, the post stated his true height was 6’4”. That's way too tall for me. I wouldn't even be impressed. This is the truth, but feel free to believe what you want. It would be tragic if you realised tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/23 09:01 AM |
| 1 | Would it be a dealbreaker to you if a man lied about his height by saying he is shorter than he is?If I only want a short adventure with him, him turning out to be taller doesn't matter, as long as he is attractive and I can have fun with him for one night. Assumed however that I was looking for something long-term. In that case I become highly suspicious about how he deals with his insecurities - by lying. I would have to assume that he will lie to me about other things, too. Additionally, it's a sign of low intelligence because he should have known that I will see his true height when we me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/23 09:35 PM |
| 14 | Guys who lie about their height vs women who lie about their weightAnd from the other person's perspective, why would they want to be with someone who obviously lied to them? What a waste of time and potential. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/23 03:01 PM |
| 1 | Women would be straight up miserable if their partner refused to have sex with them, yet because it usually happens the other way around they find excuses that sex is not importantI think you are right, OP, and I won't try to change your view. I agree that sex is an essential part of a romantic relationship. If there is no sex, that relationship will face harsh times and often lead to a breakup, divorce, unhappiness, and cheating. It's also true that a woman would feel undesired and unhappy if a man refused having sex with her, especially if there is no obvious reason for that. We are used to be sexually desired, and if we are not, we immediately wonder if there is someth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/23 02:53 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What do you perceive to be 'weakness' in a man?Yes, that's the point. I won't deny that there are certain differences between 'men' and 'women', but in the end we are all individuals, and on the individual level two women can be as different as day and night, as well as two men can be completely different. Therefore we date and see if we are compatible, and it's perfectly legitimate if we are not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/23 11:58 AM |
| -1 | Q4W: What do you perceive to be 'weakness' in a man?Ok, but that's no different from how men view us. Some will tolerate more drama and emotional expression; others want a sweet, well-behaved woman. Everything is subjective when it comes to estimating others. If you are not extreme the one way or the other should be fine though, at least in the view of most of people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/23 11:34 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: What do you perceive to be 'weakness' in a man?I don't know what you mean by 'pick a lane'. Explain, please. "He can have emotions, but only when I agree with them and they must be expressed in a manner that I feel to be appropriate in the moment." I knew someone would bring that :) Look, there is a healthy level of emotions. That shouldn't be that difficult to understand. Most men wouldn't like an overdramatic woman or a woman who is cold as a stone either. The same applies to men. Easy. Have emotions but keep them at a healthy, reasonable … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/23 11:04 AM |
| 2 | Would it be a dealbreaker to you if a man lied about his height by saying he is shorter than he is?Yes, because many of us look beyond a one-night-stand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/23 09:56 AM |
| 1 | Would it be a dealbreaker to you if a man lied about his height by saying he is shorter than he is?Hahaha, that's hilarious and a clever strategy :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/23 09:49 AM |
| 1 | Would it be a dealbreaker to you if a man lied about his height by saying he is shorter than he is?I become highly suspicious about how he deals with his insecurities - by lying. I would have to assume that he will lie to me about other things too. Additionally, it's a sign of low intelligence because he should have known that I will see his true height. Very childish. I think I would spend the date with him if he would be fun otherwise, but then tell him that I'm not interested in more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/23 09:48 AM |
| 5 | Q4W: What do you perceive to be 'weakness' in a man?Child men - if I get the impression that I would need to be a mum for him, hell no. I read about a guy who was unable to pack his bags himself. When he was moving he called his mum and sister to come help him. Arrogant, self-absorbed - a huge turn off. Verbal incontinence - not hearing me or others out shows lack of self-discipline and ignorance. Speaking very loudly - makes me instantly feel uncomfortable and doesn't match my own nature. Being very passive, never offering new topics or suggesti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/23 09:31 AM |
| 2 | Advice how to be a friend to a women?You could mention an interesting documentary that you've watched and tell her a little bit about it, and ask her opinion. Another idea is to ask her advice on something, nothing too serious but also nothing too trivial. Maybe you can find something that would give her an insight into your life this way. | /r/ExRedPill | 20/08/23 07:58 AM |
| 2 | CMV - Pornography is beneficial for society - It removes undesirable males out of the dating raceIndeed. There is an entire sub of women who suffer and deal with their porn addicted men: r/loveafterporn/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 06:49 PM |
| – | Do women care about men's looks?Yes, women do absolutely care about a man's look. This has been discussed on this sub many times. If you browse a little bit you will find many similar posts here. But a woman's attraction is more complex than that of a man. To phrase it simply though, a woman's attraction is a combination of physical and emotional attraction. That's why looks matter to us, but they are not everything. A man needs to pass a certain threshold lookswise (which is individual for each woman) in order to make her wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 03:23 PM |
| 1 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?You sound like someone who should do perfectly fine, you don't sound like you would be boring at all, but I'll try to answer your question nevertheless. Boring would be someone who only talks about their job and nothing else. Or someone who never offer new topics and only passively replies to what the other person says. Or someone who is only serious all the time, without any banter in between. Or someone who is never open to new ideas or curious about other things and life, basically living in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 09:48 AM |
| 2 | What are normal jobs that give the most status to a man ?Being good at what you do is sexy. General competence is attractive, and that doesn't need to be a high-status job. If you are a lazy lawyer (a stereotypical high-status job) or an incompetent doctor (another stereotypical high-status job) that doesn't tell me anything good about you. 'Normal' jobs that would increase my respect for a man: paramedics, physiotherapists, air traffic controllers (not quite 'normal', ok, but very cool), uni lecturers... Basically jobs that require brain and contribu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 09:21 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: in a scenario in which the man is providing financially 100% for the family and the woman doesn't work, what would you consider to be the justest way to split house chores and child rearing?During his working hours she does everything around the house and child. After his working hours 50/50 unless one of them is exhausted from the day then the other one helps out more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/23 07:33 AM |
| 16 | Why are women often bothered by male attention, but men absolutely love female attention?We know that those men would catcall and touch most women. They don't see you, they see a walking, pretty piece of meat. That's not flattering to say the least. We appreciate attention given in a sweet, respectful way though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/23 04:46 PM |
| 1 | Being called a "fuckboy" is the biggest compliment you can get as a manBeing a fuckboy means I see that I can easily have sex with you but I would never bear your child. If that's the biggest compliment to you... be my guest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/23 04:22 PM |
| 12 | Would this (on the surface) be an example of Betabux? Is the wife cheating? What’s going on here…I suppose his wife has discovered what subreddits he is browsing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/23 03:27 PM |
| 1 | Do you think in 2023 we are living in a Patriarchy, a Matriarchy or a completely gender neutral society?I think it's neither. It's a question of perspective. In terms of dominance, there is still a propensity for (especially white) men being in high positions in politics and management, and they make the decisions (critical when they decide about topics like abortion). However, one could argue that women on the other hand are more privileged as they are more 'protected', get more support, can dress however they like, can express themselves more freely, no stigma if they live with their parents or … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/23 10:41 AM |
| 1 | Say No coffee dates!!!!! have standardsI'm not sure what the point of your post is, and what does the story about how you met your fiancé have anything to do with coffee dates? Do you mean that going to a cafe for coffee is not a proper date? Doesn't the company matter the most? Besides, cafes are lovely, and a walk in the park is romantic. I really don't get your message about standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/23 09:30 AM |
| 1 | How do you show men you are commitment-minded?Beside telling him directly, I show it by making plans with him, for example planning a vacation together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 09:08 AM |
| 1 | Is there a point being tall starts to become unattractive to most women?There is absolutely a limit. I'm not that tall myself, and for me 6' is the limit. Ideal would be slightly below. It makes me feel too disconnected from the man if he is much, much taller than I am. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/23 06:02 PM |
| 1 | Q for women: would you date an attractive high functioning autistic guy with a high paying occupation or an unattractive/average looking man who was in an average occupation.Ok, but you seem to know how to behave in a socially acceptable way (mask). Non-autistic people need to learn social norms as well and apply them to their interactions with others. For example we would smile and show the other person at least some interest (at least for a while) even though we would much rather walk away when we are bored and do our own thing. We are not as different as you think. People mask all the time. Acting childish sounds more concerning to me, although I still don't know… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/23 01:14 PM |
| 1 | Q4Everyone - Facial HairWomen - do you like facial hair on men? I feel neutral about facial hair. Some men look great with it, others look better without it. Whatever suits a man's face. They must decide. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/23 09:12 AM |
| 1 | There is a huge disparity between what young&attractive girls want and what PPD girls want and that's one reason for misunderstanding.Maybe knowing how 'young' the girls are who date him would explain the disparity. Women with a little bit more life experience look at a man much closer and have more complex expectations. He just comes across very self-centered. This is not a good relationship material. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/23 09:02 AM |
| 1 | Q for women: would you date an attractive high functioning autistic guy with a high paying occupation or an unattractive/average looking man who was in an average occupation.If I may ask, what do you do differently, what changes, when you unmask? Can you give an example of something that women declared childish? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/23 08:34 AM |
| 1 | Q for women: would you date an attractive high functioning autistic guy with a high paying occupation or an unattractive/average looking man who was in an average occupation.I need to see something 'special' in my man, and I need to feel attracted to him. An average/ unattractive man, even though socially highly functioning (most humans are), doesn't sound like I would be interested in him. I would be more interested in the slightly autistic guy and see if we are compatible overall. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/23 08:31 AM |
| 1 | What do you women think of a man who at the moment doesn't earn a lot of money but has a promising future?You studied hard, you have an occupation and a job, right? Why do you still feel insecure about yourself? If someone at this point still thinks that you need to 'get your life in order' they are nuts. Be proud of yourself and be good at what you do. Money comes and goes, even for doctors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/23 07:58 AM |
| 12 | Question for Women - Is it true that you find the majority of Men unnatractive?Yes, unattractive in the sense that they are unremarkable to me lookwise. Only a few stand out, and then it's like "omg, that guy is so hot!" Happens very seldom unfortunately. I have a soft spot for sexy voices though, so if an unremarkable man has a voice that is sexy to me his attractiveness increases on the spot significantly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/23 05:55 PM |
| 1 | In 2023, should men still be expected to pay for dates? Why?Thank you for agreeing with me. Some people vote emotionally and not rationally. If they disagree with you they 'reward' you with a downvote. Voting should go away completely. It only encourages people to post popular opinions for the karma, and discourages honest discussion which is supposed to be the purpose of this sub. How am I supposed to learn from others if they hesitate to say what they really think, right? One of the rules even reads: Do not downvote. That's for a good reason. But some … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/23 07:14 AM |
| 1 | CMV : I have never seen a young woman dissatisfied in a relationship with a traditionally attractive manThere are more not traditionally attractive men than traditionally attractive, right? Thus, you will see more of them than of the attractive ones. Thus, you will see more broken relationships among the not traditionally attractive ones, simply because they are the majority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/23 08:33 PM |
| 5 | We all agree that women are attracted to men who display competence and drive, but are women also disgusted by the very effort it takes to reach the level of competence they admire?I never heard of it. I personally would admire his persistence and would respect him for having come so far. He would have proven that he doesn't surrender easily. That's a very attractive trait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/23 05:50 PM |
| -4 | In 2023, should men still be expected to pay for dates? Why?I can't and I can be wrong of course. I suppose my assumption comes from how I would behave if I realised that I'm not into that guy, but you are right, there can be a lot of reasons to behave the one or the other way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/23 05:22 PM |
| -2 | In 2023, should men still be expected to pay for dates? Why?I'm a woman, and that's exactly how I see it too. If he pays for our first date it signals to me that he really likes me, and I'm more than happy to cover our second date in return. I would insist on splitting the bill though if I already knew that I don't want to go on another date with him. And the other way around, if he suggests to split the bill I would assume he isn't that much into me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/23 05:03 PM |
| 1 | WOMEN DONT ENJOY SEXThis. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/23 03:47 PM |
| 1 | The bald mans handicapBeing bald works for some men. It depends on the shape of your head, your face and your style. A 25 years old friend of mine shaves his head and it suits him, he looks much better this way than with hair.There is nothing with younger women and much older bald men. You are probably the right 'type' for baldness. Enjoy being popular :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/23 01:19 PM |
| 0 | As a man you should not date if you are brokeI can't find any information about "Chris Rockus" on the internet. Literally nothing. So where did you hear about it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/23 11:57 AM |
| 3 | As a man you should not date if you are brokeThen let me rephrase it: I'd rather be with an attractive man than a rich man. There you go. Women have different priorities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/23 11:52 AM |
| 3 | As a man you should not date if you are brokeNot single but a woman, and I look for other criteria than his finances. You can only speak for yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/23 10:26 AM |
| 0 | As a man you should not date if you are brokeWhat philosopher said that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/23 10:20 AM |
| 1 | As a man you should not date if you are brokePeople date for many reasons. A lot of men don't seriously look for a long-term relationship, even though they state it in their profiles. So their financial situation is often irrelevant as long as they are fun, interesting and good looking. Many girls look only for fun as well, so why shouldn't they date at all? However, you talk about a serious relationship where you want to build something together. In that case you will need financial resources, that's logical. Nowadays, the man and the wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/23 10:15 AM |
| 1 | A lot of women, especially those on the younger side, crave excitement and adventure, not stabilityWhy is being exciting/mysterious and stable/dependable mutually exclusive? I think most women would like stability with an exciting partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 09:30 PM |
| – | Men should not be shamed for leaving their wife for a younger woman.It's just that a 20-year-old is still exploring herself, what she wants from life, and what she needs in a relationship. She is easily influenced, more naive and exploitable. So if a much older man who has already figured all of this out is using his experience to get her, it might prompt questions. The same applies to the dynamics between a woman of 30+ and a 20-year old man. If the younger person is 30+ then who cares. People might wonder but wouldn't shame a 50+ for being with them. They are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 08:35 AM |
| 2 | Avoiding redpillThe irony is, he won't understand that it was his redpill behaviour that turned you off from him. He will believe it happened because he wasn't the alpha male any more, which will only confirm for him that redpill is right. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/07/23 07:23 AM |
| 6 | Officially lost the love of my life to redpill.Incredible how easily people give up their common sense. I'm so sorry, OP. Maybe we will see him here one day when he has realised what an idiot he was sacrificing your relationship for the illusion of being superior. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/07/23 07:05 AM |
| 2 | What are your thoughts on OnlyFans?In the paper “Nudes? Shouldn't I charge for these? : Exploring what motives content creation on OnlyFans" authors from the Max Planck Institute for Software Systems, University of Michigan and Arizona State University have explored the motives behind OnlyFans. They found: "two groups of people making content on OnlyFans, with significant overlap: those who desired to sexually express themselves, and those who needed money". They say that: "The financial possibilities of OnlyFans over other types… | /r/ExRedPill | 25/07/23 06:41 AM |
| 1 | Went full-on pick-me as an experiment and got a boyfriend within a month.While this is just a nice behaviour, you used that to pass yourself off as someone you are not. You know how this will end, right? You will inevitably disappoint him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/23 08:41 AM |
| – | CMV A man that cheats on his wife will be more respected and loved by her (as long as she doesnt find out) then a dude that doesn’t.According to your logic women will stay more attractive too if they cheat on their partners. They will keep exercising and see into that they always look pretty so they can successfully flirt any time and have fun with other guys. Additionally, cheating would make a woman's life more exciting so she would neg less and be always happy, which her partner will appreciate. Additionally, she will want more sex from her man because other guys will keep her sexually active and her hormones at the peak.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 02:11 PM |
| 1 | Why do women hold it against guys who are late bloomers?I have really a hard time believing it. I will take your word for it. I wonder though if that's a generation thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 12:36 PM |
| 1 | Why do women hold it against guys who are late bloomers?That doesn't make any sense to me. Have you observed this in real life? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 09:20 AM |
| 2 | Why do women hold it against guys who are late bloomers?This is, however, another fact that women here will deny. Indeed. I deny that. And you should ask yourself why we deny that. Perhaps because you are wrong? Some men prefer to listen to other men than to what women say, and then they wonder why no woman wants them. OP, only some women will hold being a late bloomer against you. In real life, most women won't. What counts is who you are now and what women see in you at a present time. When a woman feels attracted to you, do you really believe that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 08:56 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do you take men not dating or opting out (even temporarily) personally?It's your personal decision regarding what you want, or in this case what you don't want. I wouldn't take it personally. I would be sad if I really liked you, but I would respect your decision. It's your life, you are not obligated to align with other people's visions. P.S. Rat pets are super cute. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 07:06 AM |
| 1 | *sigh* let me try this again... "women are attracted to men with muscles"Good work! :) | /r/ExRedPill | 18/07/23 09:04 PM |
| 2 | *sigh* let me try this again... "women are attracted to men with muscles"Of course. I didn't claim otherwise. Everybody should take care of their body, and a healthy workout and diet are good for you. My point was simply that men who are given the advice to go to the gym often believe that they need to become super buff to attract women which is not the case. A fit and toned body looks more pleasing and more attractive to everyone. A super buff body on the other hand will mainly attract other body builders, but many guys believe this is actually what women want. Most… | /r/ExRedPill | 18/07/23 12:26 PM |
| 1 | *sigh* let me try this again... "women are attracted to men with muscles"Women are attracted to toned men, which includes men with some(!) muscles. Men often misinterpret it as 'the more the better' which is not true. You can compare this to men preferring slim women, which women mistakenly interpret as 'the thinner the better'. People have different tastes but it's all about aesthetics and proportions. For a few people being at the extreme end works. In general though extremes (too many muscles, too fat, too thin...) don't serve attractiveness. If you wonder, what i… | /r/ExRedPill | 18/07/23 09:48 AM |
| – | Am I being negged? I met a man who says he is into traditional gender roles and women don't like male attention anymore. Or he just thinks I am fat and not worthy.I have a bad feeling about this. I wouldn't pursue him but it's your call. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/23 07:31 AM |
| 2 | Is there certain milestones you would expect men to meet at certain points of their lives?Your goals sound great, and masters at 30 sounds perfect. No one 'should' have or be anything at a certain point. Just follow your path and pursue your goals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/23 06:37 AM |
| 2 | What causes people to do a complete 180?Ok, I don't know how it works for guys, but with women, we need to feel the chemistry first before wanting to kiss the guy, otherwise it will feel awkward and uncomfortable. And like Captain-Stunning already said, that chemistry and connection come from interactions. It can't be forced either. If it's not there it's not there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/23 05:55 AM |
| 3 | What causes people to do a complete 180?No. 3 gave you actually a good hint. There was no sexual chemistry or emotional connection. That was likely the case for all three of them. The brief kisses, kissing without tongue, and the pat on the back indicate that quite clearly. They had good time with you and had hoped for the chemistry to develope, but nothing has changed on the following dates so they decided to quit it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/23 09:25 PM |
| 3 | Is a cuckold secure in his masculinity?That depends on his motive. If he fears that not allowing it would mean losing his woman (because he alone is not good enough for her for some reason) then he is insecure in his masculinity. If he is allowing it because he simply wants his woman to have an exciting life he must be super secure in his masculinity. In my view not demeaning, as it's done with his knowledge and consent. Cheating would be demeaning. If that makes him feel uncomfortable he shouldn't accept it. It's not emotional immat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/23 07:21 AM |
| – | Question for Women : Would you accept that your Man has Sex with other women (you would be his only Girlfriend/Wife) if he would be MR Perfect?A. No doubts. He is a far cry from Mr. Perfect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/23 06:26 AM |
| 0 | Should "confidence" really be as prized, as a trait, as it is?haha, a great example! :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 05:24 PM |
| 22 | Should "confidence" really be as prized, as a trait, as it is?Real (not fake) confidence comes from competence and knowing your own value. A lot of dating advice focuses on how to radiate the signs of desirable attributes (such as confidence) rather than on building those attributes in the first place (competence). The latter gives you a healthy, convincing and long-lasting confidence that you don't need to show off as it's inherent. The former is only an empty shell that should not be prized. My own experience matches yours. The most competent and impress… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 01:50 PM |
| – | More women should value security over safety - anecdotalDo you think a woman who is 'not far behind him' in terms of finances and who likes to cuddle with him is after his credit card? The way she has been described by OP doesn't sound like that to me at all. I believe she enjoys being genuinely loved and adored for a change, rather than being a status symbol to a bigheaded, disloyal man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 12:08 PM |
| – | More women should value security over safety - anecdotal“I’ve dated the hot, tall, rich men and they all had a stubborn ego and were likely to have a wandering eye or cheat. I’d rather date a short guy who loves me more than anything in the world than a hot guy who finds me replaceable.” Good for her to have taken appropriate action. Staying away from the top 10% men is likely a good advice in general, and if I were a man I would stay away from the top 10% women as well. Although, your friend sounds lovely. I hope she genuinely loves her current part… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 11:59 AM |
| 2 | Women of PPD: if you were being as brutally honest and critical as possible what do women look for in relationshipsOk, I see the reason behind your post now. So you basically look for the secret ingredient you might have missed since it looks like women (and some friends) should be interested in you and yet nothing happens. Yes, it is certainly nuanced. I can find someone (objectively) attractive and still not be interested in him romantically if there is no chemistry. Chemistry are all those very subtle things that excite me about a man. You could try to do some research on this topic and maybe gradually bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 09:45 AM |
| 4 | Women of PPD: if you were being as brutally honest and critical as possible what do women look for in relationshipsIn a relationship: friendship, fun, good sex, good conversations, loyalty, strong emotional connection, someone to love and be loved by, someone to rely on, someone to build something with. Friendship with benefits: just what it is, friendship + sex. That's it. I don't hookup. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 07:16 PM |
| 2 | How would you feel if a man you met online turned out to be much worse looking in person?If "much worse" means that he wouldn't be attractive to me any more then I would remark that he looks much different than online and that this confuses me. I would thank him for coming and would leave politely. However, if I would still feel attracted to him I would remark the significant difference in looks and would stay to see how he explains that. If the explanation would be acceptable I wouldn't mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 06:28 PM |
| 1 | Would you lose interest if a man didn't pay on the first date?I consider his willingness to pay an indication of how much he likes me. I would still try to convince him to split the bill after his attempt to pay for the two of us, or would suggest that I will pay on our second date, and I would happily do so. However, if HE suggests to split the bill then I would assume he is not that much into me or not willing to 'invest' in us at all, and I would lose interest as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/23 04:28 PM |
| 3 | I'm worried about the future of dating.I believe the attention that dating apps get will significantly decrease once AI becomes more established. People won't trust the data that they will find online or on dating apps any more. You can already use AI to create perfect messages, and you can use it to manipulate and enhance your pictures. AI is already capable to impersonate your voice and to super enhance your looks during a live video transmission. This is what I'm taking about. I believe people will revert more to real life approac… | /r/ExRedPill | 13/07/23 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Dark Triad Traits are the best quality to have to attract women, for long term committment and loyaltyI don't know what you are trying to argue about with me. OP was talking about long term commitment and loyalty. Argue with them if you want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/23 03:27 PM |
| 3 | Dark Triad Traits are the best quality to have to attract women, for long term committment and loyaltyA known Serial Rapist and murderer, had female groupies writing to him and wanting to marry him. ... I truly pity the genuinely good guys in this world. Most of the genuinely good guys are already or at some point will be in happy relationships. Only because a few women among millions adored a rapist is no evidence for women to prefer 'evil' men in general. Dark traits are not attractive to most of us. It's just that those guys have more confidence and sometimes charisma, and seem more exciting … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 04:46 PM |
| 2 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityYou should never say never but I'd really rather not. Him being or having been promiscuous tells a lot about his character and his values, and they are not values I look for in a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 06:12 AM |
| – | I don't understand why those fake "bad boy" dating profiles workNo way. When I saw the picture you have linked I immediately felt repulsed. This is not even a 'bad boy' in my view, it's an act of violence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 12:17 PM |
| 1 | Women are more attracted to men when THEY do the chasingSome women are shy or don't have enough self-confidence to approach a man, so that's understandable. As for those who want to play power games, if their ego is bigger than their desire to get the man, oh well, their loss, no? Besides, someone who plays games with you doesn't respect you and will never be honest with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 11:41 AM |
| 4 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityWhy wouldn't we understand? I find promiscuous men repelling as well. That only tells me that he is chasing sex. So if I want more than just sex I will look for a man who is capable of being in a relationship and not for one who was only after female bodies most of his life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 10:04 AM |
| 13 | Women are more attracted to men when THEY do the chasingIt's not the chasing that makes a woman feel more attracted to a man; they chase BECAUSE of the stronger attraction. If you want like/something a lot you will naturally feel motivated to do actively something in order to get it. You reversed the reason and the sequel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 09:46 AM |
| 3 | Do men actually want love?Oof, what kind of men have you met in your life. They are not (all) like that. Maybe the 20-something are more like that, but at some point they desire love the same way women do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 09:29 AM |
| 1 | How do you like Zac Afron physique?I don't like it. His neck is too buff, his biceps are too buff, a ripped stomach on a round belly looks weird, his body looks kind of disproportional. The proportions are really important. I'm afraid I must agree with the women who told you to diet down and stop powerlifting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/23 10:56 AM |
| 12 | Feminine/Masculine energy videosI would be careful with this kind of videos. Some people who wish to become more feminine/masculine watch them for inspiration. However, they are usually meant to make you feel insecure about yourself and bring you to book their femininity/masculinity courses. As I see it, a traditionally feminine woman will attract a traditionally masculine man. There are all kind of people/men out there though. If you stay true to yourself, whatever makes you feel comfortable, you will attract someone who suit… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/07/23 09:59 AM |
| – | Does it make woman want a man more knowing other women want that man?The point is, an empty restaurant with an excellent cook may be overlooked because people will wonder why it's empty, and if maybe there is something wrong with it. And at the same time, a restaurant with let's say mediocre food may become attractive if there are already people inside. Maybe it did a great promotion campagne, or someone who knows the owner has suggested it for a work event... A lot of random reasons. Then you see the guests inside it and you see the empty restaurant next to that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 09:25 AM |
| 1 | Women, what do you mean when you say that a man’s salary doesn’t matter as long as he has ambition, works hard, and grinds?I don't care if he makes less than me. I don't care if he is in school. I would only care if he was lazy, had no interests other than sleeping and gaming, no dreams, no plans, if he wouldn't try at all. What am I supposed to do with him? Maybe imagine how you would feel with a woman who has no interests other than polishing her nails. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 08:03 PM |
| 1 | Would you be okay marrying a stay at home husband ?Thank you for the question. I never thought about that before as I never met a man who wouldn't want to work. I wouldn't want a stay-at-home husband. There is no job that would make me want to work fulltime. My goal is to keep working parttime so I can still have some time for my hobbies and other interests. And one part-time job is not enough to support two people, not to mention potential children. However, I would love for him to work parttime too so we could spend more time together. That wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 07:35 PM |
| 6 | Does it make woman want a man more knowing other women want that man?This phenomenon is called "social proof". The majority of people are susceptible to it. You can observe it with many things in life. If for example there is a line to buy a specific product, others will believe that it must be worth it. If a restaurant is filled with guests people believe that the food must be good there... Apparently this works with sexual attraction too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 12:43 PM |
| 1 | Is there even a right way to express vulnerability and self doubt with women?Well, it's ok to show vulnerability, and I agree that it doesn't make sense to have a partner whom you can't be honest and open with. Now imagine you look at your girl with sexual desires, but then she starts sharing her current anxieties, self-doubts and struggles with you. Wouldn't you supress your lust in order to offer her understanding and support at that time? What do you expect the woman to do? Ignore what you commit to her and instead keep looking at you with lust? Of course not because … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 10:02 AM |
| 1 | I'm incredibly skeptical that personality or other characteristics can "override" lack of physical attraction - please change my mind.Incredible. I thought women would be more prudent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 09:29 AM |
| 1 | Question for Purple/BP-ish: What are your Purple views?Very good points. A healthy communication is essential. We can add this to the other points mentioned above (making your partner feel desired, appreciated and excited about being with you). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 06:26 PM |
| 1 | I'm incredibly skeptical that personality or other characteristics can "override" lack of physical attraction - please change my mind.Wow, that's quite eye-opening. Never let it be said that looks don't matter. I'm just surprised as to how careless some women are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 06:18 PM |
| 6 | Confidence for men requires seeing oneself as better than other menThis is confidence to me too. Knowing who you are, knowing what you want, and not depending on comparison with others. Confident people own themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 10:33 AM |
| 1 | Question for Purple/BP-ish: What are your Purple views?Thank you :) That sounds feasible. It's astounding how easy it is to keep a relationship alive, and yet lovers neglect each others' needs more often than not. The advice to both genders should read: make the other feel desired and appreciated, and make them feel excited about getting phisical with you. I think the blue pill and the red pill can agree on that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 09:21 AM |
| 1 | Most women can’t admit that they care about looks just/nearly as much as men because they see themselves as the sophisticated and non-primitive gender as opposed to men.I don't remember what study that was. Anyway, mothers and daughters had been asked what matters more in a man; personality or looks. Both said it's personality. But then, when being shown pictures of men with a short description of their personality traits and being asked to choose a future husband (for their daughter), both daughters and mothers chose the more attractive men prioritizing looks. I don't know how to change your mind :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 10:14 PM |
| 4 | Question for Purple/BP-ish: What are your Purple views?I'm glad that insight was useful to you :) I heard that from a redpill man on this sub and thought to myself, how true! I know several couples where this has been an issue. Often men in relationships focus on the safety aspect and neglect the excitement, making their women feel frustrated. Is there something equivalent for men? What do you think should a woman consider in regards to a man's primary needs? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 08:56 PM |
| 2 | I'm incredibly skeptical that personality or other characteristics can "override" lack of physical attraction - please change my mind.I see, ok. I can tell that much earlier, but sure, within 20 minutes a woman can be quite certain about not wanting to sleep with a man. And you are right, it can take much longer to decide on a Yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 08:22 PM |
| 12 | Question for Purple/BP-ish: What are your Purple views?I'm open to anything that makes sense to me regardless of the place it comes from. What Red Pill advice, ideas, or concepts do you accept as at least partially valid and/or helpful for men? men should work on their physical appearance (lift and/or exercise) women need safety and excitement (some need a little bit of the former, others of the latter, but a guy who doesn't offer both will fail in the end) women are attracted to confidence (not to be mistaken for arrogance) I can't think of more at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 07:44 PM |
| 1 | I'm incredibly skeptical that personality or other characteristics can "override" lack of physical attraction - please change my mind.20 minutes? That sounds pretty long to me to be honest. Did you mean 20 seconds? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 07:18 PM |
| 3 | I'm incredibly skeptical that personality or other characteristics can "override" lack of physical attraction - please change my mind.I strongly disagree with no 1. A super hot guy with a personality that is unattractive to me will never be a Yes to me, and I can't be the only woman on this planet who feels this way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 07:10 PM |
| 3 | I'm incredibly skeptical that personality or other characteristics can "override" lack of physical attraction - please change my mind.Agreed. That's how it works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 07:06 PM |
| 6 | I'm incredibly skeptical that personality or other characteristics can "override" lack of physical attraction - please change my mind.'Attractive personality' is highly subjective. In my experience introverted men are not boring at all, they are just introverted. When you explore them closer you can be surprised how interesting and amazing they can be. I like their enigmatic nature. It's more atractive to me than an extraverted guy. Attractivity is subjective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 06:57 PM |
| 1 | Male and female sexuality difference?I believe the male and female sexuality is different, but I don't believe that men's sexual drive is higher than that of women. My sexual drive is always high. The difference is, with men whom I strongly feel attracted to I also strongly prefer sex with them. But if the man is only so-so I prefer masturbation. I believe a lot of married/coupled women don't feel attracted to their men strongly enough in order to have sex with them all the time, even though they might love them. I bet they masturb… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 09:53 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t cheat because they’re ‘emotionally unsatisfied’Your experience with women has certainly left its marks... Thank you for sharing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 09:48 PM |
| 1 | Women don’t cheat because they’re ‘emotionally unsatisfied’Yikes. I'm really sorry to hear that. What happened to the first ex-wife if I may ask? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 07:23 PM |
| 4 | Women don’t cheat because they’re ‘emotionally unsatisfied’A) Lack of excitement is a reason to cheat for both genders. It's not exclusive to women. B) I never heard of a woman who cheated because her man doesn't provide the desired life style. That doesn't make any sense. How is she supposed to achieve a better life style by cheating? In this case she would rather break up and leave. C) Do you mean that she got cheated by the same man that she cheats on now? If so then yes, very possible. In general women cheat because they are unsatisfied, emotionally… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 09:07 AM |
| – | PPD ACTUALLY SAVED MY LIFESo now that you understand women better, what do you intend to change in your life, if at all? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 03:11 PM |
| – | People who would generally be considered more desirable/attractive than average (height, money, personality, skills, looks etc.): would you prefer a committed relationship with one attractive person, or having casual sex with multiple attractive people?Committed relationship with one (the right) person. Casual sex is unsatisfying and unfulfilling, and with more risks involved. Not worth it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/23 05:13 PM |
| 1 | Men who believe in monogamy, exclusivity and being faithful lose in this dating market...says someone who never experienced love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/23 05:59 PM |
| 1 | Men who believe in monogamy, exclusivity and being faithful lose in this dating marketYou are comparing relationships to jobs?? Wow. The world has really corrupted your mind and heart. The partner whom I love is irreplaceable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/23 01:51 PM |
| – | Why do men think they have low standards?Men have low standards when it comes to casual sex (and this is what most men here have in mind), but their standards are much higher when it comes to long-term relationships, unless they don't have much to offer themselves. I believe for casual sex they would accept all kind of women incl. the ones they would never accept as girlfriends (and be seen with). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/23 10:40 AM |
| 1 | Female women, would you forgive if your significant other cheated on you?I most likely wouldn't. And if I did, that would only postpone the inevitable end. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/23 10:26 AM |
| – | Is there any mutually beneficial path here?They do in long-term mating. Men who display personality traits of the Dark Triad are only successful in short-term mating because they are more extraverted, charming, manipulative and assertive. In other words: they can 'sell' themselves better. This works especially with inexperienced and very young women. However, a woman looking for a long-term relationship and potentially for a father of her children will prefer kind, patient and emotionally mature men. Dark Triad men will be broken up with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/23 10:13 AM |
| 1 | Even if Female Nature is true, there's no benefit being mad at it and we must accept it for what it is:D | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/23 08:40 AM |
| 10 | Men who believe in monogamy, exclusivity and being faithful lose in this dating marketOptions are irrelevant if you have found someone you are happy with. You want to be with them and not with your options. Dating skills are irrelevant if you have found someone you are happy with. Same reasons. The goal for monogamous men and women is to find someone, not to play the game forever. The reward is to have someone who loves and supports you, who believes in you and whom you share your life with. You may not live by the same values or have the same goal, so to you it looks like a loss… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 04:33 PM |
| 1 | Is there any mutually beneficial path here?It looks like we live in very different worlds. Mine is civilised, yours seems to be stuck in "the most brutal, ruthless game". No wonder our world views differ. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 02:49 PM |
| 1 | Is there any mutually beneficial path here?An interesting point. I might underestimate the efforts that men put into 'natural' interactions. Nevertheless, the strategy thinking seems to have gotten pretty aggressive and makes people think too much in terms of markets and commodities. Approaching each other more as real humans in real life would be healthier for the resulting relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 01:46 PM |
| 12 | Let's get to the point: how do female attraction and sexuality actually work?There is no general 'how women work'. I think however that in general women's attraction mechanisms are more complex than those of men. The majority of women will appreciate a sexy body, just like men do. But at the same time, a sexy body alone is not enough, and here begin the varieties in preferences that women have, which confuses men :) Some men would like clear instructions on what to do in order to become attractive to women (Redpill's attempt), but that simply doesn't work. We like very d… | /r/ExRedPill | 08/06/23 07:14 PM |
| 6 | Even if Female Nature is true, there's no benefit being mad at it and we must accept it for what it isI wonder as well and join the question. I'd like to know what we talk about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 02:22 PM |
| 3 | Question for women: Would you submit to a rich man?Hell, no, a tenfold no. This is not a relationship/marriage. This is selling yourself as a slave in exchange for financial security. I prefer to keep my soul and my honour, thank you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 10:24 AM |
| 11 | Is there any mutually beneficial path here?It would help not to follow a 'strategy'. If men and women would stop playing games and stop following strategies like in the stock market, finding a suitable partner would happen more naturally and the relationships would be more genuine and lasting. They would be built on true connection. A connection established by games will crumble sooner or later. We need more natural interactions in the real world and less online strategies and games. When I look at your post I see corporate language: str… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 10:00 AM |
| 12 | If you aren't Red Pill or Black Pill are you Blue Pill by default ?I don't think that you are Blue Pill by default in that case. People hold different beliefs, make different experiences, have their own thoughts and draw their own conclusions. It's like with politics; If you are not right-wing that doesn't make you automatically left-wing. Neither do you need to follow any of the discussed philosophies on this sub. It's perfectly possible to look at the particular arguments of either side and decide individually who is right in one matter and who is right in an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 04:16 PM |
| 6 | With "pretty privilege" being pushed more and more by society, should it be our responsibility to simply looksmax to fit in?As men, we are already expected to make a certain amount of money andhave a certain level of social proof before we even gain any level ofattraction from potential partners or the respect of friends and peers. That's something the Redpill sells to young men in order to make them feel insecure about themselves and then sell them 'solutions'. If you want to believe a woman instead, my advice is: Get/stay fit on a healthy level. You don't need any super muscles. Just see that you don't look as if y… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/06/23 08:48 AM |
| 36 | The sleeping with 50 women theory200-300 women?? Do your friends even have a life outside sex? I would never want to be with a guy whose only purpose in life was to have sex with as many women as possible. Pardon my bluntness but this is pathetic. It's crazy how that is supposed to help with relationships. Of course it won't. | /r/ExRedPill | 07/06/23 07:34 AM |
| 1 | Marriage Rates in the USAYes, finances is an aspect, but only for a subgroup of people to whom family still means something. This is not the general case any more. Many people (with money) just want to enjoy life and not bother with the responsibility of a marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 02:06 PM |
| 2 | How many people on this sub actually want casual sex?Well, you can't love without trust. I understand that nowadays it's too much of a risk for many. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 11:14 AM |
| 9 | Marriage Rates in the USANot surprising. A few reasons that come to mind: It's socially acceptable now not to be married. People don't want to risk a divorce (Portugal: 94.44% of couples divorce!, USA about 45%). People value their 'freedom' more and have other priorities. People don't want children as often as in the past. Women don't need men for financial stability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 09:24 AM |
| 10 | How many people on this sub actually want casual sex?I don't. Sex is way better for me when love, unconditional trust and deep emotional connection are involved. I've had a FWB and the sex was 'good' but it wasn't the same. Only sex with someone I love is really, really satisfying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 08:56 AM |
| 4 | CMV: I think women on these subreddit are more likely to get men to have negative perception of women than redpill communityCan you please elaborate for me what kind of men's insecurities you address? The other issue that I see criticised in your post is the hookup culture and sexual liberties utilised by women (what about men though?) I share your concerns (I wouldn't call them insecurities) regarding the effects of the hookup culture on romantic relationships. Even though sexual liberties and hookups are pushed and celebrated as freedom, I don't think it's something positive, and I say that as a woman online :) Jud… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 01:13 PM |
| 1 | Why is being single "wrong?Being single is not wrong, and it's way better than being in a bad/toxic relationship. If you find a partner though who is wonderful, supportive and makes you feel happy and grateful for being alive, this relationship is priceless and is worth taking any risks. It's not about whether you 'need' a man; it's about sharing your life with someone you love. In the end it's only up to you what you value more. Singles can be very happy too. It's just a different life style with a different focus. For m… | /r/ExRedPill | 05/06/23 11:27 AM |
| 50 | Women over value how much their career and education is attractive to menThis means if a woman is normally a 6/10 in looks and personality , she might believe being a doctor or having a PhD makes her an 8/10. Sorry, no one believes that. We pursue education for ourselves. We may hope to be acknowledged for our achievements, but I really don't know anyone who would believe her degree will make her more attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Which Person Would You Choose To Date?For dates? Person #1 until I find my person #3. I would love to spend time with person #2, but only as friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Patriarchy 2.0 Is ComingI agree that patriarchy 2.0 is very much possible, however not for the reasons that you've listed. What we currently observe is a regress regarding women's rights (i.e. abortion in the US) and the rights of minorities in general, not least LGBTQ+. Additionally, we observe an increase of right-wing and conservative parties (look at Europe) which support patriarchy. In addition, we live in very uncertain times with increasing political and social tentions. This situation WILL get worse. All these … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 02:49 PM |
| 1 | male and female attraction are fundamentally different and that’s why things like dating apps flat out don’t workI agree that attraction is not only looks, this is being said all the time. I would argue though that this applies to both genders. I've heard from men about how a beautiful woman suddenly became ugly to them due to rude behaviour that she displayed toward others. If you had to choose between two identically attractive twins, I believe you would choose the one more attractive to you personalitywise. I can't imagine you say 'oh well, they are both equally hot, I don't care.' One would always be m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/23 04:00 PM |
| 12 | male and female attraction are fundamentally different and that’s why things like dating apps flat out don’t workWomen are visual as well, we just need additional emotional stimuli which men don't seem to need. Offering only emotions without at least a certain level of visual attractiveness won't work. A woman must be open to the man's emotional stimuli in order for them to work, and if I don't like his looks at all I won't open beyond maybe platonic friendship. Therefore, in online dating either is important - attractive looks and the ability to write appealing text messages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 09:27 PM |
| 8 | How would you raise your daughter?Try to give them self-esteem so that they don't seek it on the Internet from randos all over the planet. Jean M. Twenge, Ph.D. and W. Keith Campbell, Ph.D. have pubished a very interesting book with the title "The Narcissism Epidemic". Among others they show how boosting a child's self-esteem doesn't prevent them from seeking validation on social media; on the contrary. If you keep telling your daughter how special she is and what a princess she is she will likely develop highly narcissistic tra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 02:14 PM |
| – | Would you at least agree that the majority of women like confidence a lot?Confidence, yes. Arrogance, no. Some men can't distinguish between those two. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 03:39 PM |
| – | Observation from people watching at the airport...Years ago I had a job at a big airport too and I must agree. My observations match yours. My colleague confirmed that too. Only a very few men were attractive. The vast majority of young men look unremarkable, and the majority of older men look straight unattractive. That being said, I learnt from this sub to stay away from attractve men since they have multiple girlfriends at any given time :D | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 09:36 PM |
| 61 | Lying Flatism and Singlehood on the RiseUnderpaid, burnt out through crazy expectations at work and working hours, no hope for the future, economic and political instability, climate change... GenZ have realised that they won't be able to buy a house or even remotely have the same life quality as their parents once had. Buying a house is unaffordable, renting is unaffordable. They have realised that a university degree doesn't guarantee them a good job, and they see how their parents struggle now too. All this while corporations make … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 01:20 PM |
| 1 | "Infantile men"Sounds like an interesting topic. What did she say about infantile men? Please, tell us more. Besides, I don't see anything wrong with a group of men playing on the beach. What an odd example for infantility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 09:26 AM |
| 12 | My best friend’s boyfriend is an Andrew Tate fan, War Room member, and belongs to at least 1 red pill chat group that I know of…. Should I be concerned?Should you be concerned? Absolutely! Huge red flags all over the place. Don't pressure your friend to leave him but keep informing her about what she actually deals with and hope that she will make the right decision. | /r/ExRedPill | 27/05/23 09:18 AM |
| 6 | QW: For women who are against hookup culture, what made you not want casual sex and value sex as exclusively a romantic activity?A great take! I completely agree with you. I very much prefer a partner whom I can trust and who knows me and what I like. The quality of sex is so much better, and the additional emotional bond makes it simply incredible! You can never find that with a casual encounter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 07:27 AM |
| 11 | Does a man age matter when dating?Most women prefer guys around their own age. Besides, nowadays not even guys in their 30s have their lives 'in order'. Don't believe their IGs, it's all illusion. Just try to be your best self. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 07:10 AM |
| 24 | "WDYM?! Being rich isn't getting me autimatic HV poon?! Btw, likely not a red-piller.Funny what he means by 'high quality women' (spoiler: models). I suppose he also believes that he is a 'high quality man'. I can imagine the 'high quality' of a conversation with him. I wonder why he hasn't found any woman yet... That's really a mystery :p | /r/ExRedPill | 25/05/23 06:37 AM |
| 7 | What would happen if (X) gender disappeared?If men or women disappeared, the heterosexual individuals of the other gender would become deeply depressed. We vastly underestimate how our motivation and inspiration in life, goals and dreams come from the mere existence of the other gender. What would happen in the long run is more difficult to tell. I suppose society would adjust one way or another. Humans, men and women, are capable of incredible things when forced to act and survive. After the initial chaos there would be less conflicts. L… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 09:32 PM |
| 2 | Discussion : Whats the most eye opening real life example of TRP in action you’ve ever experienced?I admit men don't have it easy with us. What can I say... Let me just say that ordering lemonade is totally fine, at least in my book :) A random fact: in Ireland in pubs men sometimes order milk. It's not uncommon and no one thinks of them as 'feminine'. It's a cultural thing. Maybe men should start ordering lemonade and calling their mums more often until we get used to it and stop judging them :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 08:05 PM |
| – | How has dating changed substantially in the last ten years?Your last line was unnecessary. OP asked a genuine question. Why being rude? Have basic manners disappeared too in the last decade? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 12:27 PM |
| 3 | Question 4 Women: Do you value the men in your life?Of course I do. I can't imagine my life without them. It's a strange question to be honest. If you hate a gender for the gender's sake something is profoundly wrong with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 12:12 PM |
| 1 | Discussion : Whats the most eye opening real life example of TRP in action you’ve ever experienced?I agree. A 18-year-old is not an adult yet. And you are right, it's about masculinity. Calling his mum doesn't make a guy look masculine. It will depend a bit on the given situation, but in general a strong connection to his mum is something many women won't find attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 12:06 PM |
| 2 | Discussion : Whats the most eye opening real life example of TRP in action you’ve ever experienced?Opening up about your emotions is helpful to get to know you better. That doesn't mean that we will like what we see. It's similar to the advice of 'be yourself' - it's important to show the other person who you truly are if they are supposed to decide if they want to be with you. That doesn't mean that the other person will like you. That's a risk we need to take and the other person has every right not to like you. I don't see anything wrong with that. Tell me please, why this is a problem. It… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 11:41 AM |
| 4 | CMV: Women complain about the "expectation" to wear makeup even though they enjoy it.These 2 complaints directly contradict each other. Are you sure they are the same women? I think they are two distinct groups. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 07:04 PM |
| -2 | Discussion : Whats the most eye opening real life example of TRP in action you’ve ever experienced?Well, mummy's boys are a special case. Unless that would be an emergency, a guy calling his mum during a date with me would kill my attraction too :) A guy calling his sister on the other hand would earn Brownie points. Either can be considered 'soft', and yet, there is a big difference. The former gives away a vibe of 'I'm not an adult man yet and I need mummy's support', whereas the latter would signal 'I respect women and I'm there for my sister.' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 06:53 PM |
| 6 | Discussion : Whats the most eye opening real life example of TRP in action you’ve ever experienced?I am sure I read this very comment already some time ago. Did you copy it from someone or have you already posted this before? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 06:20 PM |
| 3 | Men often don’t understand that physical attraction is not optionalLooks have always mattered. What led to the misassumption that looks wouldn't matter to women is: Women were more dependent on the man's finances in the past than they are today and needed to prioritise other qualities in men than looks if they wanted a family. Media used to regularly pair up old, unattractive men with young, pretty women in movies. The more you go back in time the more creepy gets the contrast. This brainwashing continued over a very long period of time and still lingers in peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 01:43 PM |
| 1 | Women, what is your age range in men?I'm in my 30s but look much younger so men yonger than me even by 10 years regularly show interest. It has never been a handicap as long as he is mature in his thinking and his actions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 11:58 AM |
| – | CMV Eastern Europe Women care way less about looks then women in the west.In Poland, the society expect women to look pretty and attractive. Most of women there do their best to meet that expectation (no matter the age). It's just normal, something you grow up with, and no one questions it. Woman = must be pretty. There is no similar expectation regarding men for some reason so men have more liberties in not looking their best. However, it's more expected of men to have a decent job and not to be lazy. There are different pressures the genders deal with in Poland. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/23 09:06 PM |
| 17 | What are some things men & women commonly say while dating that actually mean something else?Men and women: "I'm quite busy with work these days." = You are not interesting/attractive enough for me and I will use my work as an excuse if you will want another date. Men and women: "We will stay in touch." = I don't want to see you again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 02:52 PM |
| 5 | What are some things men & women commonly say while dating that actually mean something else?That hits home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 02:43 PM |
| 3 | Do you care about morals when choosing a partner?being a good person and being confident, charismatic and strong are not mutually exclusive. Absolutely! See Marcus Aurelius. I very much care about morals too btw (to answer OP's question). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 06:58 PM |
| – | How common is it for women to get turned off if she finds out the guy she’s talking to isn’t talking to other women?I agree. I don't care if a guy has other options. Why would I care? I don't need other women to 'confirm' that a man is attractive or interesting. I'm not a child, I can estimate all by myself if he has desirable qualities (for me!) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 07:44 AM |
| 12 | Q4Women: Do you enjoy rejecting men who approach you that you don't find attractive?You've got aready enough replies so you know what's creepy about a man your dad's age approaching you (not you personally). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 02:13 PM |
| – | Opinion on dating for males- from a lonely 24MI think many (very young) people will stay single because of the current gender dynamics and the current dating culture. I don't think that this applies to 30+ people though. Men and women still enjoy each other for company and want to have someone to love and share their life with. Only because I don't 'need' someone doesn't mean that I don't want someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 09:47 AM |
| 26 | Q4Women: Do you enjoy rejecting men who approach you that you don't find attractive?I don't enjoy it at all and try to be polite when rejecting them. I get annoyed though if they don't get the message. For example, I was enjoying a sunny day by the riverside. A guy came to me and asked if the water was cold. I told him it wasn't too cold. Then he suggested to look for a cosy place together, he would have beer. I said politely 'No, thanks, I don't drink.' This is where he should have figured that I'm not interested in him. If I were I would have said instead: 'I don't actually d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 08:21 AM |
| 7 | CMV: We should have a Super Marriage concept where divorce is illegal0.04% tax break cute :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 07:09 AM |
| 1 | In dating, whats the biggest - men/women say they want X, but their actions suggest otherwise?Precisely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 08:59 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Have you ever lost interest in a man because he was too nice? Why or why not? To clarify, by nice I mean polite or kindNo. Being nice is a positive trait. I would only lose interest in such a man if I realised that he has made himself a servant to anyone and can't say No at all, as this would mean that he has no self-respect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 08:41 AM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on abortion?Good for you to be vegan! (I'm a vegetarian) According to our current knowledge, at around 8 weeks after conception, the basic structure of the brain has formed, and the neurons begin to form connections with each other (no pain sensitivity yet, no sentience.) By the end of the second trimester (around 24-28 weeks), the brain has developed the major structures necessary for basic functions such as movement and sensing. That gives us a safe period for abortions without harming a sentient being. M… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/23 08:07 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on abortion?due to things like facial expression, kicking, reaching and grabbing, shying away from harsh light, organ function, and measurable brain activity In that case, what is your opinion on killing and eating animals? They feel pain and suffer (a fetus' brain structure is not even sufficiently developed to feel pain), they are aware of what happens to them (a fetus is not), they have cognitive skills and a certain intelligence (ravens for example are smarter than young children) whereas a fetus has ze… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/23 06:37 PM |
| 8 | Q4W: Would you prefer to be a man instead of a woman?No. I think women can enjoy more freedoms, can get away with more things, experience more kindness, can have multiple orgasms, can wear any clothes and have any haircut they want, feel less pressure to 'succeed' or 'perform' (ok, but instead the pressure to always look pretty), get help easier than men... There are cons too (menstruation pain and discomfort, childbirth, dangerous to travel alone in certain countries...), but I wouldn't switch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/23 05:56 PM |
| – | Discussion : what do you think of the meme “Do I actually find him attractive or is he just tall?”If he is just tall and nothing else, he won't be attractive to me. The other way round, if he is attractive it's sufficient that he is only slightly taller than me. Too much of a height difference is inconvenient (think of spontanous kissing, whispering in the ear...) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/23 02:38 PM |
| 2 | How to stop comparing myself to other "better" men, when it comes to dating?I'm glad you find it useful :) Embrace your genetic traits, they make you unique. We are the strictest critics of ourselves, we tend to focus on our imperfections so much, whereas others always see us as a whole person. | /r/ExRedPill | 08/05/23 06:44 PM |
| 1 | Is effort a paradox in dating?Your effort sounds great. I really appreciate when men take care of themselves. But you also need to be approachable and make women feel comfortable with you/around you. If you have female friends or family members like a sister or a cousin ask them for their opinion on what impression you make on them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/23 05:16 PM |
| 2 | How to stop comparing myself to other "better" men, when it comes to dating?If you think that they are ''better', use them as inspiration and don't view them as competition. Don't forget, they have their own flaws and insecurities that they don't reveal to the public. | /r/ExRedPill | 08/05/23 04:49 PM |
| 2 | How I got into RP, did exit RP and what I learnedA very insightful post. Thank you for sharing. I especially like and agree with your last paragraph. | /r/ExRedPill | 07/05/23 02:09 PM |
| 2 | How do you guys feel about the concept of preselection?I think this is a manifestation of the Social Proof phenomenon. The majority of people are susceptible to it. Cialdini describes it in his book 'Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion'. For example, if we see that many people buy a certain product we are more likely to buy it too because we believe that there is a good reason why so many desire it. If a restaurant is crowded we believe that this is a sign of high food quality, otherwise it would be empty, right? etc. Cialdini doesn't mention th… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/05/23 09:02 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: Where would you ideally like/be open to find your partner (school, work, club, bars, apps, etc). Can you rank/score them in order of preference?Ideally a place where it would feel 'natural' to establish a connection with him (small friend-group parties, school/uni, hobbyist classes...), or a place that is not crowded or loud and stressful. In general, it's always better if there is something that 'coincidently' brings us together. A sudden, unexpected and obvious approach is always a bit weird and puts me in the uncomfortable position to immediately decide what I want to signal to the approaching guy, which, when in doubts, will always … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 11:22 AM |
| 4 | Why did your previous relationships end?He turned out to be a toxic narcissist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 11:01 AM |
| 2 | Red pill friend went full psychoFortunately, she learnt rather sooner than later what a creep he is. His brain is really messed up. | /r/ExRedPill | 06/05/23 10:31 AM |
| 1 | Would you donate an organ for your partner?I would, yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 07:53 AM |
| 2 | CMV: traditional marriage vows are too strictI agree. It might not be the optimal scheme for children. On the other hand, growing up in a household with parents who quarrel alll the time, get annoyed with each other or even violent can't do good to the child's mental health either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 07:46 AM |
| 5 | Don't feel masculine because of my average penis sizeA Google data scientist who analysed people's Google searches wrote a book about what that data revealed to him. Among others he writes: Do women care about penis size? Rarely, according to Google searches. For every search women make about a partner’s phallus, men make roughly 170 searches about their own. True, on the rare occasions women do express concerns about a partner’s penis, it is frequently about its size, but not necessarily that it’s small. More than 40 percent of complaints about a… | /r/ExRedPill | 04/05/23 02:44 PM |
| – | The decreasing value of people in todays society, especially menEVERYTHING is a bold statement. Reality check: Why are you able to listen to music on your smartphone via Bluethooth? Oh, right. Because a woman (Hedy Lamarr) had the idea of frequency hopping. The reason and her motivation behind that invention was to make radio-guided torpedoes harder for enemies to detect or jam. Conveniently it contributes to your pleasure nowadays. Grace Brewster Hopper - a computer scientist and mathematician who was a pioneer of computer programming, invented the linker, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 02:02 PM |
| – | Why do people assume that the prevalence of anti-depressant use among white women are because of the unmarried and childless?They don't know and don't bother to research the reason behind it. It just fits their idea of a woman having only one purpose in life, namely to marry and have children. Davidowitz, a Google data scientist, have analysed Google searches and wrote a book ("Everybody Lies") about the insights that they have provided. I turns out that: People are seven times more likely to ask Google whether they will regret not having children than whether they will regret having children. ... Adults with children… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 10:12 AM |
| 1 | CMV: traditional marriage vows are too strictThe vows assume good faith and are a sign of devotion, and in most cases the couple means it. If I love someone I won't leave them when they get sick or unemployed or the times get rough. If this is too strict why marry at all. The vows don't include the acceptance of abuse, toxic or mean behaviour. THIS would be too strict. I think it would be a good idea though to make a marriage valid only for five years. Husband and wife would need to renew it for another five years by explicitely confirming… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 09:16 AM |
| 1 | Looks are NOT close to the most important thing for womenLooks matter and decide about whether you will be viewed as a potential sexual partner or friend-zoned. Personality matters as well and decides about whether you will be considered for a LTR. good looks + great personality = husband material good looks + acceptable personality = material for a fleeting pleasure or a boyfriend, depends good looks + bad personality = not interested acceptable looks + great personality = you can be a friend, you can be a boyfriend, depends on chemistry bad looks + … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 08:42 AM |
| 6 | Looks are NOT close to the most important thing for womenBy showering, clean clothes and general hygiene he only stops being disgusting. This is the bare minimum that is expected from any person. A suitable hair cut can do quite a bit. However, he won't be able to change the shape of his face, the shape of his eyes and lips, his nose... so saying that 'he could easily bump that up few points' is really exaggerated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 08:04 AM |
| 3 | Defining Love.It doesn't matter what would be if we had no law and if we lived in stone age because we live now in 2023, we form relationships now, and the current (secure) cirrcumstances allow for love. Only because women inherently feared men milennials ago has no influence on what is now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 01:19 PM |
| 5 | Defining Love.Why do women fear men? That's ridiculous. In a civilised world with law to protect you from violence, rape and coercion I don't see any reason why women would fear men. We live in a civilisation where such things are rare. I didn't grow up fearing men. Did you? Sure, I wouldn't go with a random stranger since bad things can still happen, but this doesn't influence my ability to love a paticular man. This being said, love absolutely exists. Women can love men (their selected man), as well as men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 08:46 AM |
| – | Are alternative aesthetics, in terms of attraction, relevant after 25?I assent to this view. The corporate world transforms us into status quo. It depends a bit on the job, and women have more liberties, but in general this is it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 07:40 AM |
| – | The Friendzone is a thing because the average woman doesn't find the average guy attractive enoughThanks very much! I think you are right about women. And as for men, that would explain the commonly known reaction: You cheated on me?! With HER?? :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 03:32 PM |
| 1 | "People don't date who they are attracted to. They date whoever would impress their friends and family" - Seth Stephens-DavidowitzStrange. Ok, thank you. I will look again, maybe I missed that. | /r/ExRedPill | 02/05/23 03:24 PM |
| 4 | Q4M Would you trust an overtly redpill dating profile?No. Her man is right of course. And if it's two other men she will ask her man who is right :p | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 07:18 AM |
| 2 | "People don't date who they are attracted to. They date whoever would impress their friends and family" - Seth Stephens-DavidowitzOP, where exactly is Davidowitz talking about men being more attracted to overweight women? I've got a copy of his book and I was only able to find a paragraph where he says that "men, on average, prefer women who are skinnier and share their hobbies." I was able to verify the other points but not the first one about overweight women. | /r/ExRedPill | 02/05/23 06:32 AM |
| 2 | The Symbolic Death of FemininityI would like to point out that a lot of observations that you make about women apply to men the same way: Third, female existence has become so devoid of meaning that they seek constant distractions. This is true for the majority of people, men and women alike. Did you know for example that almost 50% of people don't feel that their job is meaningful? Corporations turned us into productive units deprived of all humanity. Where do you think all the burnouts come from? When was the last time you s… | /r/TheRedPill | 01/05/23 09:51 PM |
| 1 | CMV Women rating 80% of men as unattractive just proves women find different things attractiveThis is an interesting explanation that makes sense. In my case that's definitely true as I have a very distinct taste. A different explanation however could be that because we find 80% of men unattractive we have no choice but choose them by other qualities than their looks (those 20% of attractive men can't be devided among all of us). If men would find 80% of women unattractive they would not wait for their ideal princess either but rather try to find an 'acceptable' one, paying more attentio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 07:05 PM |
| 7 | "People don't date who they are attracted to. They date whoever would impress their friends and family" - Seth Stephens-DavidowitzDid Davidowitz consider only US searches or searches worldwide? | /r/ExRedPill | 01/05/23 09:01 AM |
| 1 | The Friendzone is a thing because the average woman doesn't find the average guy attractive enoughThat's a very interesting insight. Thank you. We really don't 'get' our different 'world experience'. Men end up hating women for their pickiness (even though it's just the way we experience men), and women end up hating men for looking at other women (even though this is just the way they experience us.) Can I ask you something? If you are looking for a relationship, how important is a woman's looks to you compared with the rest that she has to offer (character, personality etc)? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 08:54 AM |
| 1 | The Friendzone is a thing because the average woman doesn't find the average guy attractive enoughThis is what I've observed, and others have agreed. I don't see it as a 'me' problem or a problem at all. Just an observation. This is a possible explanation for OP's assumption. Now I deliberately left out all other factors of attraction (and they are plenty) like personality, manners, intelligence, the way someone smiles, their behaviour in general, the way they speak, their humour, their voice... Do you hold a grudge against women for their 'pickiness'? Why are you so rude making random assum… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 08:33 AM |
| 1 | The Friendzone is a thing because the average woman doesn't find the average guy attractive enoughI worked at a big airport of a European capital for about two years and had the chance to see a very large amount of men and women of various age from different countries. From my observation I can tell that the vast majority of men are not attractive in terms of looks. I casually mentioned that to a female co-worker of mine and she agreed. In the entire time I remember only two incidents where I saw a male passenger and thought to myself 'Omg, he is hot' and looked after him. Most of men are al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 02:08 PM |
| 2 | Relationships are for losersYou reduced a relationship to mere sex. A relationship is so much more. I hope one day you will realise that. People who enter a relationship only because of free sex are losers (using your wording) condemning it to fail. If you want sex only, you don't need a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/23 12:05 PM |
| 2 | help dismantle unhealthy beliefs I got from RedpillYou can use the same statistics (always check the source and the way how they have been established) to make different points and draw different conclusions. The divorce rates among our grandparents' generation were lower not because the marriages were more functional but because women were often financially dependent on their husbands and couldn't afford to leave them. Additionally, the stigma attached to being devorced was high and put you at a disadvantage in society. In some countries (i.e. … | /r/ExRedPill | 23/04/23 01:46 PM |
| 2 | Purple pill debateIt's a sub where all ideaologies (red pill, blue pill, whatever colour pill and no pill) can talk with each other, which in theory sounds like a good idea. Sometimes you can find productive debates there, but most of the time it feels like a toxic place with a lot of red pillers attacking anything that goes against their conviction. After being there for a little while I realised that it started to affect my opinion of men in a negative way, and I decided to take a break for some detoxication. I… | /r/ExRedPill | 23/04/23 12:57 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Do you actually like a confident guy if he is physically unattractive to you?Spot-on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/23 08:04 PM |
| 1 | Current dating discourse around heterosexual relationships found on social media has been coopted by political and economic interests.A very interesting point of view! That thought never occurred to me, but it sounds reasonable. There is an interesting new study that would indicate the same: When considering a potential long-term mate for daughters, both women and their parents state that a potential partner's ambition and intelligence are more important than physical attractiveness. = brainwashed? However, both women and their parents make mate choices that contradict their stated preferences, favoring a physically attractive… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/23 01:47 PM |
| 1 | Q for Women: Does it bother you, not bother you, or flatter you, or just not care if men check out your ass while you walk by? I mean if they do it discreetly, and you notice it, and not overtly ogle you like a mouth breather.I don't like to be checked out in an obvious way, but if they do it discreetly, no problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/23 07:03 AM |
| 1 | Men need women more than women need men.Female chaos and male stability - suuure, whatever makes you happy :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/23 07:43 PM |
| 1 | What to do when I’m put on the spot about my sex life?"How old were you when you lost your virginity?" - I don't remember, it was too long ago. Or if you feel more confident: Why, do you need some advice?" (present it as a joke) Or: Why? Are you afraid to lose yours? (jokingly) Who was your first partner?" - A cute girl I met during the summer break." When did you last have sex?" - I have sex almost every day, stop asking. "With whom?" - There is something called privacy (with a slight confident smile). Or: Don't worry, not with your sister. I don'… | /r/ExRedPill | 02/04/23 04:24 PM |
| 1 | M/ in a LTR Essentially. Almost all Women Love Bad Behavior but Condemn it at the Same Time - And Literally Change Their Narrative From Week to WeekBeautifully explained. We are more different on the individual level than we are due to our sex. It's something to be learned in real life by dealing with real people and not online. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/23 03:42 PM |
| 2 | Is there a net positive or negative to these discussions that we're having?It depends on the individual person and their ability to keep an open mind whether the discussions help them learn and understand something and possibly apply changes to their life or not. People who only blindly advocate their position without sparing a thought about other positions hardly contribute to a productive discussion. They only nurture the resistence and stubbornness of the other side. I understand guys who claim that we women here produce more redpillers. I understand that because th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/23 11:54 AM |
| 4 | Men need women more than women need men.I think people like to think men and women are very different but really, starting to think there's far more similarities than most people think, we just express it differently. I think so too. We may differ to a small extent based on diferent hormones and especially based on social expectations we grow up with. But we have much more in common. We easily forget about it and focus on finding explanations for that tiny part that is different, creating wild stereotypes on the way, like 'all women g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/23 12:26 PM |
| 4 | With rising AI people will use "flirt optimizers" to maximize their date counts on dating platformsYou are right. The platforms will try to turn it into a business opportunity nevertheless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/23 11:50 AM |
| 7 | With rising AI people will use "flirt optimizers" to maximize their date counts on dating platformsAI will be a big challenge for dating platforms. People will mistrust each other more (not the optimal condition for dating and flirting), ghost each other at the first sign of AI generated text, and maybe switch to video dating platforms, which on the other hand will discourage some from using dating apps alltogether. You will have to go through a series of questions, as people will have figured out what likely answers AI gives to specific questions, and see if and how yours will differ. So peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/23 11:12 AM |
| 7 | Men need women more than women need men.I suppose our hormones are involved in it, but in general hearing a male voice simply feels pleasant, and when he smiles at me, it makes me happy. A woman's voice doesn't make me feel the same way, even though female voices can be nice and pleasant too (some are annoying when they get squeaky). If a woman smiles at me it's just friendly or we laugh together. If a man smiles at me it's somehow different, with a bit of 'magic' involved. I'm not good at explaining it, am I? :) That doesn't only app… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/23 10:28 AM |
| 3 | What is the appeal of younger men (mid 20's) for older women (30's 40's)?That should be obvious. Younger men look more attractive. A lot of men, when they get older, stop taking care of themselves and get out of shape. They also become more lazy. Life seems more exciting with a younger man, and since women earn their own money now, they don't care about your earnings (you should have your life together though). Times simply change. Women are finally in the position to fancy whomever they want and don't depend on old men for their high positions any more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/23 08:45 AM |
| 9 | Men need women more than women need men.Even though it's true what you say, it's still nice to have male companionship, hearing a male voice, see a male smile when he looks at you, be able to touch him whenever you feel like, have interesting conversations and maybe hear a different perspective... Women may not need men but I wouldn't want to live without them around me, especially not without the man I can be deeply in love with. We shouldn't compete with each other, we should appreciate each other, whether we need each other or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/23 08:24 AM |
| 1 | Theory: The effectiveness of finding a niche when it comes to datingI think you are right. Instead of trying to become some 'common ideal' that most people can't become anyway, we should focus on what is exeptional or characteristic about ourselves. That would make dating much more interesting and would lead to better fitted pairings. The other day on this sub someone was telling about how popular his unique friend is with women despite being all but the believed ideal (drinker, lives in a messy apartment with spiders in his bed, tells funny sories about it, is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/23 09:04 PM |
| 8 | I recently found out that a guy I’m talking to has a high body count and I am repulsedAs a woman I tell you, trust your gut feelings. I would feel repulsed too. He will cheat on you left and right while 'waiting' for your marriage. | /r/ExRedPill | 31/03/23 01:46 PM |
| 1 | Women who can't do their makeup properly and don't have good fashion sense are at a ridiculously huge disadvantageOf course I want my man to look good for me, and I want to look good for him. Weight and fitness have nothing to do with makeup. Acne is an issue where makeup can help, sure. There are certainly issues and occasions where makeup will boost your appearance. It's just not massively important, but it's up to each woman individually how much importance she ascribes to her makeup. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/23 09:26 AM |
| 2 | Women who can't do their makeup properly and don't have good fashion sense are at a ridiculously huge disadvantage...many men say that make up is dishonest because of that; then they say they want us to wear it right? Your first video is bizarre, and the second one... gross! As a man I would be highly suspicious of women with heavy makeup, you never know :D | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/23 06:40 PM |
| 7 | Women who can't do their makeup properly and don't have good fashion sense are at a ridiculously huge disadvantageThere are a lot of examples on YT how makeup can create a completely different person: https://youtu.be/a4Ov8qvZ2_w?t=337 I wonder if men care about what a woman really looks like underneath. From what I have learned on this sub they most likely don't care at all :) I also learned that most men would date almost any woman, so why stess over perfect makeup. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/23 06:15 PM |
| 1 | We (women) wear makeup for ourselves is not 100% falseWell done! Yes, I should care less. Thanks for the encouragement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/23 12:17 PM |
| 3 | We (women) wear makeup for ourselves is not 100% falseI wear makeup only when I leave the house. In my own view I look better without it; fresh, more natural, more radiant. I don't wear makeup for men either (I might if I thought that it made me look more attractive? It only makes me look different, not like myself.) The only reason I wear makeup outside the house is the social expectation of women to wear makeup. You feel the social pressure when every woman around you wears makeup, and the default picture of a woman is with makeup, which is crazy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/23 07:03 AM |
| 6 | How are men supposed to even get a relationship nowadays?As a woman I agree. It's really ok to approach us in real life. It's not creepy at all as long as you are friendly and respectful (most men are), and not 20 years older than I or drunken like a buffalo (that IS creepy). If I reject someone I do it respectfully too, with a smile, and try to leave him with a positive feeling about having approached me. My friend's boyfriend came up to her in the underground and invited her to coffee, just like that but in a sweet way, and she said 'yes'. They have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 05:09 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women are not riding on the carousel, the issue is the men are just not worth staying withI believe women (above all teenagers and women in their early 20s) who are still 'exploring' life do indeed want to 'try out' different men. If one of them happens to be someone worth staying with they will. But like you say, most of them won't be worth it because those women haven't been selective in the first place. They have high standards regarding men's looks, but very low standards regarding their personality (due to inexperience; that changes in the 30s when women know exactly what they w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 10:32 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Most men who sleep with a lot of women are not chads they just have better social skillsin high school Teenagers :) Sweet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 09:48 AM |
| 2 | Society should embrace non-monogamyThis article (women get sexually bored in LTR) would support your proposal. However... In a stable 'western' society a woman is free to do whatever she wants anyway. There is no coercion to monogamy. She can even have children, each with a different man. That may allow to pass more diverse genes, but is it mentally beneficial to the children? I don't think so. Biologically non-monogamous relationships seem healthier, however mental health wise and stability wise monogamy makes more sence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 08:53 AM |
| 1 | Men Are Hornier than Women (Effortpost Version)For a more holistic picture I'd like to add this: New Study Shows 'Man-Children' Are Destroying Women's Sex Drives | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/23 07:17 PM |
| 5 | Talking to women "as people" first usually gets the guy friendzonedA woman needs to feel comfortable with a guy she is supposed to get intimate with. If you approach her directly with the intention of a romance it's an uncomfortable situation. I might have already decided if you are attractive to me, but I don't know you, and I don't know if you can be trusted. Trust and comfort come first, and a good way to build trust and comfort is treating me like a human being so I can see whom I'm dealing with. Nobody tells you to be a platonic friend for a year. The poin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/23 06:13 PM |
| 7 | Why does romance and sexuality come naturally to some people and not others?It's like with small talk. Some people are natural talkers and can entertain you for hours, others who are more introverted feel like they are acting and performing, and feel exhausted afterwards. Your 'problem' doesn't sound like one with romance and sexuality. You are just not a natural flirter. Don't fret. Just schedule dates and meet girls doing some fun activity where you can talk or laugh about the activity itself and don't need to focus solely on each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/23 08:06 AM |
| 0 | The “modern woman” is changing, and the “modern man” needs to adapt to the changeIt's not as simple as you believe. Womens' qualifications are often underestimated in comparison to a male applicant with the same(!) qualifications such that he will get the job and she will have to be content with a less paid one (not by choice). How do we know that? My former university conducted an experiment having various university employees assess the competence and qualifications of applicants. The male applicants have been assessed higher than the female ones. Then they mixed the names… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Does testosterone affect what men are attracted to and want in a relationship?According to this article from 2016, men who were given additional testosterone preferred feminine looking women for short-term relationships but the less feminine looking ones for long-term relationships. There was a significant difference in preferences between men with and without higher testosterone levels when it comes to short-term relationships. However, for LTR all men preferred less feminine looking women (due to lower potential of defection as suggested by scientists). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 03:52 PM |
| 2 | The “modern woman” is changing, and the “modern man” needs to adapt to the changeThanks. Your source as well as many others still show a significant gap, so it's not a myth. However, when comparing same jobs, same education etc. the gap is not that big. Some sectors look good, others not that much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 03:25 PM |
| 0 | The “modern woman” is changing, and the “modern man” needs to adapt to the changeYes, they actually do, but it's not as bad as it once was. I just checked: https://www.payscale.com/research-and-insights/gender-pay-gap/#module-11 Overall women earn less due to childcare, working more part time and doing more of the less-paid jobs (the gender pay gap that is usually discussed). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 03:20 PM |
| 0 | The “modern woman” is changing, and the “modern man” needs to adapt to the changePlease, provide a link to the study you are referring to or name the source so I can check it. There is no better way of comparison than to compare full time employees. Women working full time don't get more free time than men. Even my own company self-checked for gender pay gap and realised that women are underpaid (which they then fortunately corrected). As for negotiations, I remember an Australian study looking especially into this, and they determined that women ask for pay rise equally oft… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 02:02 PM |
| 0 | The “modern woman” is changing, and the “modern man” needs to adapt to the changeI personally don't expect men to pay for dates, but a female blogger once made a very interesting point why she still does: Gender pay gap is still reality. Men get better paid for the same job and the same qualifications. One can easily verify that by searching for 'gender pay gap 2023'. That was her reason for having them pay and not feel guilty about it. Do women really expect men to earn more? It will depend on the area where you live but in general I think this is rapidly changing, as well … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 11:41 AM |
| 5 | What are some things you like about being your gender?I like: being able to dress however I like, especially the endless beautiful dresses; whatever I wear it's always ok as a woman being able to compliment others without anybody thinking it's creepy being able to ask for help, since as a woman I don't feel the pressure to constantly show independence and strength being able to talk to my female friends about anything, not being judged for showing emotions looking pretty :) people are much friendlier to women being myself, not caring about what oth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 10:16 AM |
| 2 | Translation, part II (rape fantasies)Thanks a lot for the elaboration. I have a much better idea now what this genre is about, and good luck with your books. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 09:02 AM |
| 0 | How can a man build confidence in his interactions with women if his experience is almost entirely rejection?I know of couples who had been just friends at first. It's certainly a risk but sometimes it works out. In the worst case OP could ask his female friend/s to introduce him to other women. As friends maybe they would do it anyway. If he gets rejected all the time a female friendship might be the solution for him, one way or another. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/23 10:30 PM |
| 4 | How can a man build confidence in his interactions with women if his experience is almost entirely rejection?You could try to start with a platonic friendship. That would take away the pressure to 'achieve success' and would allow you to feel and act more comfortable around the woman or women in general. Then, when you will know each other better and you will feel confident around her you could take another step. As for your second question why it is a turn off when you act surprised, it's because being surprised is a sign of lack of self-confidence and self-esteem. If a woman is interested in you acce… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/23 10:06 PM |
| 2 | Translation, part II (rape fantasies)Thanks a lot. I don't know how much you can or want to disclose about your books but I wonder, are your male rapists persons in whom your female victims were at least somewhat interested prior to the situation in question, or are those men complete strangers or dislikable to them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/23 09:25 PM |
| 1 | Translation, part II (rape fantasies)Highly interesting. Do you have the data and can tell whether a reader is a man or a woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/23 07:40 PM |
| 1 | Western Women, how much of a turn on is it for you if a guy is rich?Yes, that's true. What I was trying to say is, if you lure women with your money you will get women who assign a high value to money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/23 10:34 PM |
| 1 | Western Women, how much of a turn on is it for you if a guy is rich?That really baffles me, but it explains the redpillers' advice to make money. Oh well, they will get women they deserve. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/23 04:25 PM |
| 1 | Most 'alpha' males are among the most insecure men in societyReally well said, OP. My view exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 10:55 AM |
| 7 | CMV Many Men cant become attractive by hard work, theyre genetic base is just not enough, and that is the brutal part of it.I believe it comes down to the attractiveness of the man's face. If his face looks attractive he can achieve a lot by exercising and getting fit or by working on his personality traits, getting a haircut, dressing accordingly etc; whatever he needs. If his face however is considered unattractive by most standards it will always limit his potential. There was a survey on this sub regarding height and fitness status and how successful PPD men and women are in their sexual activities compared to th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 10:20 AM |
| 13 | Western Women, how much of a turn on is it for you if a guy is rich?It's rather a turn-off for me since money tends to have a bad influence on people's character. Many become arrogant, and arrogance is one of the greatest turn-offs. Additionally, they may be super busy making more money, which means not having any time for me. If a rich guy is still 'normal' though (unlikely but can happen), the fact that he is rich doesn't change his attractiveness a bit. Why does the red pill emphasize money so much? - A good question! I have no answer. Hopefully someone else … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 07:35 PM |
| 1 | How do you think AI will affect dating? What effects has it already had?First people will get more dates since AI will improve their pictures and messages. Then, after 3,4,5 dates they will either get off the dating app since in RL the other person will never be the person they pretended to be, or they will switch to video dating apps where they can see through 'approved lenses' if the person from the profile is as gorgeous and funny as they appear to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 04:14 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Finding a High-Value Woman nowadays is nearly impossibleHe has a lot to learn, about women and about respect toward others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 07:39 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Finding a High-Value Woman nowadays is nearly impossibleOnce your definition and expectations of a HVW might have been the norm so it was easier to find what you wish for, but times have changed. You are basically complaining why women became individuals. Try to see it as something positive (because it is). That doesn't mean that we are not feminine any more or don't want to be. Calling women 'trash' is really harsh. You make me speechless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 04:04 PM |
| 0 | Guys. Would you date someone who is boring, timid, and not funny? Ladies, how about you?Not funny - no problem, though laughing together is nice, so he should be at least able to laugh with me about other things; he doesn't need to be funny for me. Timid - if you mean that he is less outgoing, then yes. I even prefer introverted men. But if by 'timid' you mean that he cannot stand his ground like an adult if needed, then no. Boring - no. I would like to have interesting and stimulating conversations with him and would like him to be open to do things with me. If he is 'just there' … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 11:10 AM |
| 1 | Do you see men's very low standards for sex as a good or bad thing?People will have their reasons why they chose one person over the other, so I don't care. I personally prefer men with higher standards. It wouldn't be flattering knowing that you are easily replacable by any other woman who is not straight forward ugly. I also believe that having low standards can easily lead to putting only little effort into the act since it becomes a numbers game and the man will simply move to the next best one if he can't get sex from me immediately. Finding someone attrac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 10:33 AM |
| 1 | Why aren't men's bodies lusted and desired as much as women's bodies are lusted and desired?The irony is that women don't want to be lusted after by most men and find it degrading to be objectified like that. We want to be lusted after, but only by the men who are attractive to us, which explains why we don't want to be lusted after by most men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/23 09:52 PM |
| 1 | Dating seems more punishing than ever for guys in particular, and yet you constantly meet very 'average' guys in relationshipsIn addition to all the reasons already given I'd like to say that guys who are extraordinary good looking often prefer to stay single and enjoy the attention they get from women, and only when they start looking less attractive because they get older or are getting out of shape they would start looking for a serious relationship and become available for more than casual fun. Thus, a lot of the 'average' guys in relationships might have been 'above average' once. I've seen that a lot of times in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 08:07 AM |
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