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i honestly don’t understand how a man can have sex with someone whos only doing it for money and not actually desiring it. i could never enjoy that, id feel awful
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:15 PM
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getting off the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:30 PM
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because some people are serious about each other even if they sleep with each other straight away .
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:29 PM
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this sounds unhinged and conspiratorial
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:47 AM
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i dont know if it classifies as casual but i did sleep with a friend of mine after my first breakup. i was shattered and he really helped me out. we hung out, he cooked for me, we smoked, drank, laughed, talked shit and cried together and then we did what we did. it happened i think around three times. i knew he cared about me and i knew he wouldnt get attached, and that was what i needed at the moment, thats why i did it. i didnt really enjoy it (nor did i dislike it), despite him being a good …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:43 AM
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same but a woman still has to be my type. for example, i found those picks icky, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:56 AM
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also, have you noticed everyone staring in a weird way? its perceived as so weird because it rarely if ever happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:49 AM
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usually? obviously not. as someone else said, you love someone you choose to date more than someone you chose to leave. are you just a placeholder for your partner? this, we cannot know, and gender is irrelevant, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:45 AM
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as a bi person, this is true
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:40 AM
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very well put, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:34 AM
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i agree with everything else you said, but not with this. some people jump in a relationship while also jumping into bed together practically as strangers. and then they date and they’re actually into each other so they are “serious” about it. for a while, at least. does it usually last? obviously not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:31 AM
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you get the house and the roof together. you dont get the roof as soon as you visit the house, before even deciding to move there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:27 AM
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it is revealed to you in a dream
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:11 AM
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not before we build up connection and chemistry. waiting boosts that, and i love it actually. the tension, trying to resist each other, the dry humping. yall should try it. its also more special because then you only end up sleeping with people youre actually into and not everyone you ever go on a date with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:10 AM
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he doesnt, but im not obligated to date a man who sleeps around. its simply a turn off. we can stay friends at that point
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:07 AM
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of course not. why would i hand you the cheat code on how long youll have to wait just to risk you might decide im hot enough to endure that period just to sleep with me? i also dont even know exactly, i dont have a rule, i just wait until i develop feelings for the person because i dont want to spoil them and i dont like sex without feelings. its what work best for me, the fact that it pushes every man thats not serious about me away is just an added benefit. and also, it lets you build a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:05 AM
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wow you really went completely off the rails
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 09:35 PM
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because men weight looks more on average, and more women than men dont care about looks when choosing a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:40 PM
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but women are less shallow. who signals for being the farer sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:35 PM
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because its obvious. do you like people you find ugly or people you find hot? also there are women who dont even consider looks in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:33 PM
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but it is a limiting factor in dating. if youre not a good person, its unlikely youll find a good person to date and if you dont, its unlikely youll have a good relationship. but sexual success is not tied to morality, thats true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:29 PM
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you’ve clearly never been in love. if you were, you would have experienced wanting to treat her like a princess. in my opinion its stupid and pretentious to say “only princess treatment”, just like its stupid to put any other thing like that on your dating app bio. i like women as well, and i would never swipe on someone that pretentious. i treat my partner like royalty though. you should simply not date people who dont meet your standards instead of proclaiming them to the world. i would not da…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:09 PM
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why is it so hard to understand that some women may also want to a partner thats attractive to them, like literally all men do? not even all women, but some of us also have aesthetic standards. in this sub it seems like something thats seen as a given in men is unacceptable for women. my partner is both attractive and good (and other things too), just one thing would not have been enough for me to date him. maybe i would have just slept with him if he was only attractive, but im not really the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:02 PM
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most men dont tend to take seriously and value the women they didnt have to put in effort to get, though. they end up being treated worse compared to women who are “hard to get” (and i dont mean playing games or acting mean) even with men they’re interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:54 PM
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as she said, vaginas are really stretchy. my partner is really big and if we dont get intimate every day we need to be extra careful because it will hurt more. they stretch back rather quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:41 PM
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the smaller the better. as long as its not a pathology, obviously. im tiny! but for some reason i havent been lucky on that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:38 PM
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ive never really slept around, but i did sleep casually with a friend of mine after my first relationship. personally, ive only been attracted to my long term partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:35 PM
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in which occurrences is it seen as permissible? by whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:32 PM
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thats because theyre incapable of being happy on their own. its hard to learn to be alone and its also hard to have to settle because you cant handle that. you have to choose your hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:30 PM
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what are you trying to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:54 AM
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the type of men that commits to you is the type of man that wants to commit though. a man that doesnt want to simply wont, no matter how hot or amazing you are. you cant control other people
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 12:15 AM
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exactly. i actually think people should raise their standards instead. only date someone if you adore them, or stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 12:13 AM
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of couse thats not an acceptable or useful behavior. but it makes no sense to compare an apple to an helicopter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 12:06 AM
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idk, not me for sure. maybe some women? just dont date someone who doesnt make you feel like youre the hottest man alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:59 PM
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you know what? chads for me dont exist. ive read about this figure many many times but they just dont. is it the men ive been most into? then my bf and my ex. is it the men my female friends sleep with and then they treat them baldly? most of them are ugly, and the ones who are physically attractive are just so uncharismatic and i dont feel this pull towards them at all. if my bf would have complained with me about me waiting a month or two to sleep with him and done this whole chad talk i would…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:54 PM
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that only works if shes stupid and/or traumatized and didnt do the work. a confident, average iq woman does not find those annoying games attractive. but thats not the target of most red pill men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:44 PM
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okay so you did compare the two things. thats a crazy take, i probably would have lied too if i was you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:36 PM
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the rage that makes me feel scares me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:33 PM
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of course. thats what you want though, not what you actually need. a therapist can help you be happy with yourself and your life even if its not perfect, and also to use your energy to improve it instead of wasting it on feeling like a victim, complaining, feeling bad, etc. (absolutely not judging you or anyone for feeling like this, its a normal human feeling, but its not a feeling that you should hold on for a long time, as it will consume you and ruin your life. ask for help if you find yours…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:31 PM
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then why did you talk about a woman rejecting guys based on physical attractiveness?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:29 PM
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if youre in a shitty place mentally reddit or any part of internet is not going to be good for you. you should ask for help if you need it. not to strangers online.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:22 PM
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love your flair
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:19 PM
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im sorry, are you comparing an individual promoting lying to people to take advantage of them and sleep with them under false pretenses to another individual rejecting people they dont find attractive? i hope i just understood it wrong because its a truly unhinged comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:17 PM
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whats a “first choice” to you? is it the person you like the most (or the only one you like, at least in my case) in the moment or the first person youve ever liked or something else? im referring to the former, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:11 PM
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because its not helping him out at all, and in fact its only making it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:49 AM
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we can say all people end up dying at some point
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 11:15 AM
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no
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:31 AM
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not really, isnt the sub about “sex and gender issues”, meaning not exclusively about sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:29 AM
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the issue, my friend, is i can just ignore him and its going to be easy, but he has to live the rest of his life with himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:25 AM
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suit yourself then, but stop complaining about the consequences of your choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:08 AM
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you may not want it, but a relationship would not be possible in the first place without emotional labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:19 PM
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most underrated work is totally emotional labor, not mental labor (making doctor appointments etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:17 PM
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yeah they eat so much! my man eats at least three times what i do. hes the one cooking usually, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:16 PM
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its because men on average dont invest as much as women do in friendships. oh and also, at least in the past generations, the wife was basically a live in servant while also bringing home a salary. that surely makes your life easier. i may always have a choice (because i became attractive, not because im a woman) but id always choose nothing over someone i dont like. no matter whos coming next or even if theres someone coming next. options are irrelevant, id be picky regardless. you dont need to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:09 PM
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its not that women dont care about losers. i mean, maybe some dont, but the majority of people is capable of empathy. so, if youre a loser in life, people are sorry for you. if you cant find friends, or someone that loves you, people are going to be empathetic about it. but empathy alone wont make someone fall in love with you. obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:01 PM
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its about not being attached to the outcome. its about being enough by yourself. its about actually loving yourself and preferring to be single than to be with someone you dont like. and being single does not mean dying alone in the slightest 😂 i have done it, other people have done it. its hard and many people, just like you, wont feel like doing it. but then dont complain if you keep being desperate since thats what you chose to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:55 PM
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those who treat women as less than get accused of misogyny. *
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:50 PM
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im sorry that happened to you, internet can be a dangerous place. regardless, you should not date people youre not into.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:49 PM
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yes it will. if you actually decentered sex you wouldnt equal not having sex to dying alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:48 PM
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so, dont you think men should decenter sex and women from their lives and start having standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:26 PM
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idk, ive only dated men who were my first choice and i am my partner’s first choice. if i could not afford that id rather step out of dating altogether. i couldnt be happy being someone’s “better than nothing”.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:16 PM
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bro i dont know who you think youre fooling. your whole “i can fuck everyone i want but if a woman has ever had sex shes impure and unfit for me” is never going to be fair. maybe youll find a (not very bright) virgin woman thats okay with the way you are, tho. bad for her, i guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:49 PM
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yes i totally made it up, theres not every other man talking about BC and calling women used up on this sub. i dreamed it tonight and it was totally my original idea. ill make a movie then
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:35 PM
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but if i jumped in bed with every man then you would have called me a slut that no man would ever settle for. damned if you do and damned if you dont. maybe never liking anything a woman does is the actual comphet tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:33 PM
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no. it is a rather weird perception of interpersonal dynamics, and if the man sees it that way ill never have sex with him. it grosses me out. its supposed to be for both, not a favor i do for him. for me to desire and enjoy sex with a man, i need to have feelings for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:28 PM
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no. you got it backwards. you have more chances of getting with a woman if, in the chance shed reject you youd be okay with it and move on. because independent people who aren’t desperate are more well liked than those who are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:46 PM
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earn it by?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:12 PM
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its fair to want someone with a similar experience to yours, imo. i dont date men with high bodycounts either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:59 PM
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well if you need help on a specific topic you just have to ask for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:58 PM
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for example, the same care in pleasuring her during sex, the same amount of acts of services (like cooking for her, driving her places, helping her out do something, etc), the same treatment overall (like taking her out to eat, spending time with her besides just sex). were you equal to all women in your life in all these fields or did some get the stacy treatment while others didnt?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:57 PM
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men dont leave after hooking up if you dont hook up with them. they either leave because they just wanted to hook up or date you because they actually liked you. lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:53 PM
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alright, so im consistent. but are you? since you care so much about consistency in women then you must be. have you treated every woman youve dated or slept with in the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:52 PM
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never seen a man being mocked for desiring to be a woman’s first choice. that’s perfectly valid. perhaps youre disingenuously referring to other claims, like wanting a virgin while having a high BC. and don’t quote me if youre going to change what i write. i explained my point - an obvious one, even - extremely clearly, if you didnt get it, thats on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:51 PM
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sex is not a reward, it is something special i only share with someone i feel deeply connected to. youre free to sleep with everyone you want, and im free to not do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:48 PM
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sex is not a reward, it is something special i only share with someone i feel deeply connected to. youre free to sleep with everyone you want, and im free to not do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:48 PM
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why are you so arrogant? chill bro, relax. i know its good advice, im great at vetting out guys who are into me just because im attractive. oh, by the way, for the women reading, another great tactic is dress cute, not sexy, especially on the first date. for example, my breasts are one of my strong points, so you’ll never catch me on a first date with them in sight. ill wear something large that wont give my date any additional reason to pursue me beside my personality. anyway, never fucked up a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:44 PM
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if thats the word you want to use, i guess. its literally just the basis of any relationship worthy of this name. actually loving and cherishing your partner, and them being your first choice, your dream boy/girl. otherwise youre just wasting each other time. but yeah of course she doesnt want “”desire””, i.e. getting him to fuck her, because most men wouldnt say no to the chance to get off inside of a vagina, and that means absolutely nothing. duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:34 PM
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you didnt understand the question. she didnt ask what are the sign a man youre hooking up with is sexually attracted to you, she asked for signs a man you start dating is not settling for you but actually considers you his dream girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 01:29 PM
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this is an extremely realistic risk, as many men tend to settle for the girl that wants them because they want a relationship to get sex out of it. in my opinion you have to look closely and objectively at the way he treats you. not what he tells you, how he treats you. how considerate is he of your feelings? how patient? does he put in effort to make things work between you two outside of sex? does he look at other women? does he treat you with respect? if you still cant tell, ask a friend you …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 01:27 PM
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yeah, ive also never seen a woman here say sex isn’t important in a relationship. the point is some men here make everything revolve around sex. not only their relationship but their whole fucking lives. and thats so fucking icky, id personally never give the time of the day to someone like that. theres other stuff more important in life, and if you enter relationships just for sex, where are your values, really? some men arent operating on a normal biological urge,they have become obsessed and …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 01:01 PM
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its a popular sentiment among stupid people who have shitty relationships, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 06:13 PM
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bro over there has some crazy views like “an ugly woman should be appreciative that i did her a favor dating her despite shes ugly and unworthy of me” and doesnt even notice. why would someone be grateful or even just okay with their partner thinking theyre ugly and that theyre doing them a favor? just date someone you like or stay single. learn to be alone, boys, for god’s sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 04:11 PM
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no, i think men do this because i see them do it here all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 04:08 PM
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it depends. is there an authority/a culture/something external that could be influencing this group? in this specific case, when talking about people considering a specific person unattractive, especially if this person is not working on themselves (does not groom themselves regularly, put effort into their style, take care of their skin/hair/etc, take care of their health and body by exercising and eating well, working on their personality and charisma, …), then probably the group is not wrong.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 03:14 PM
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im sorry, what did you prove? that convicted felons reproduce at a higher rate than the average man, and the most violent reproduce even more? if you can, link them here as well, please. anyway, it seems realistic, since violent crimes are more frequent among less educated and poor populations, who are also more likely to end up pregnant because of riskier sexual behaviors. and women dont commit crimes at nearly the same rate that men do, even with the same socioeconomic situation. it doesn’t in…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 03:00 PM
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yeah, theres always the 0.00000001% possibility everyone is wrong. but isnt it more reasonable to accept criticism, question yourself and try to better yourself instead of hanging on to that tiny percentage and claiming everyone else is wrong? and if you wont do it because its more reasonable, think about what option will make you happier in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:42 PM
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again, if everyone smells someone and thinks they smell, then probably the smell isnt in everyone’s nose but that person smells. does it make sense to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:29 PM
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you cant tell the difference between something being objective and people being a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:20 PM
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so, you admit you want a desirable woman, but the fact that that desirable woman may also want a man that she desires somehow baffles you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:18 PM
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thats not how the burden of proof works. do you have reliable, statistically significant, peer-reviewed evidence that all women are like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:15 PM
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if i have a car and i try to sell it or rent it but no one is interested and everyone prefers other cars, is everyone monolithic or perhaps the issue is my car being unfit to being sold or rented? always having an external locus of control isnt helping you, at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:12 PM
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a relevant point she made was that men tend to hyper focus on their type. meaning, when thinking about patterns of women’s behavior, they dont think about all women, they only think about the women they are attracted to, which are either super attractive or someone they feel drawn to because their unhealthy patterns feel familiar to them because of their own history and wounds. for example: its not that women only like attractive men, its that the women you notice, who are the super attractive o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:04 PM
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omg and you didnt walk out?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:14 PM
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im sorry but this argument keeps seeming disingenuous to me. ill still try to explain it to you regardless. its just like a tall, broad shouldered guy with a big nose is considered hot because tall and broad are good attributes for men and no one minds if a man has a big nose. but his tall broad shouldered sister with the same big nose is seen as very ugly. of course a curvy short woman, whose curves include butts and boobs, is more attractive than a curvy short man, whose curves includes a beer…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:10 PM
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did they tell you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:51 PM
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so youre against the popular belief that women are the gatekeepers of sex and men of commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:27 PM
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what
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:57 PM
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yes, the same 50 men for all the subreddit. maybe its just 5 people who keep changing outfits and wigs
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:56 PM
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i agree with that. but i do think as a woman finding a guy to peg is way harder than finding a woman to fuck as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:54 PM
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not at all, women on this sub have slept with 50+ men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:53 PM
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oh… :( is it the way you cope with everything else or do you imagine it would make everything else better? i used to feel this way about having a bf when nobody liked me as a teen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:52 PM
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its not that hard to get laid as a guy then
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:50 PM
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what about men talking about how shallow/bad/toxic/crazy their exes were or that they cheated? they knowingly chose to date them. most people bring out their flaws later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:48 PM
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yeah just like being funny asf wont make avocadolanche3000 be head over heels in love with you, if you look like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:46 PM
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because being sexually desirable is of little value. theres plenty more things more valuable in life. like, people actually giving a shit about you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:07 PM
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how many men do you know who want to be pegged? how many men do you know who want to be pegged by a casual partner? how many women do you know who have had casual sex at least once?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:03 PM
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does doing something not everyone can do make you superior in every way, regardless if that something is good for you or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:02 PM
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if you were a woman, how easily would you let yourself be fucked by a random guy knowing you probably wont enjoy it that much, you surely wont finish and you risk stds and pregnancy? not to mention the social stigma everyone keeps pushing on women who sleep around and all the dangers of getting alone with a stranger that can easily overpower you. how much of a good deal does it exactly sound to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:58 PM
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non-familiarity per se doesnt make it exciting for me. like, of course sense of novelty makes things more exciting, but it doesnt make me like something.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:28 PM
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the issue is: theres no magical way to make you become a playboy chad if youre unattractive physically and your personality is too. if you want your life to change, you have to change. its not that dating advice is useless, its that you want some magical formula that allows you to bed 10s without any effort on your part. and that doesn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 01:57 PM
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what do you mean with “non-familiarity” in this context?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 01:54 PM
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as i already said, its reductive to say “women are given more leeway”. it may be that men give autistic people more leeway than women do, but its a mix of that and of other factors, like: autism in women manifests in a different way and women mask better. autistic women, in fact, often really struggle making and maintaining friendships with their female peers, especially during teenage years. i think its because reading social cues tends to be essential in female friendships, and if youre not go…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 01:36 PM
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but from someone youre not even into? damn human sexuality is so interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 12:29 PM
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i dont agree with your perception
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 12:26 PM
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how does that work? how can she get turned on by two people of a gender shes not attracted to in the slightest having sex? genuine question
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 12:24 PM
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sadly you missed the point. but i was expecting that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:10 PM
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people have no idea how much. the way i pull now that i worked a bit on myself compared to when i hated myself? crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:52 PM
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the best dating advice i give to both men and women is stop obsessing over having a partner. learn to love your life by yourself and make it the fullest you can. try new things, learn stuff, do things you like and get to know the more people you can, try to make meaningful connections not in hope of getting some sex but from a place of loving people and spending time with them. and i know you really dont want to do it and just want a bf/gf but this is really the only way to truly be happy in my …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:45 PM
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more than one thing can be true at the same time. another true thing is that the criteria and data for autism are based on men, and women are also harder to recognize and diagnose in clinical settings.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:34 PM
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yes, 100%. and as a young woman, the only young women entertaining old men - which are in fact not attractive at all, especially to someone younger than them - are pitied by their peers, because we know they do it because of some issues (be it self esteem, daddy issues or others), we know hes using her for sex, and we also know she will realize it later and most importantly, regret it. there are always exceptions, of course, some age gaps relationships are genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:49 PM
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i didnt go only for looks, but i picked men that in my eyes were not only beautiful, but the most beautiful. yet, they had way way way less options than me. easy, my point is red pill theories are misguided and only apply in few cases, when toxic and immature people date toxic and immature people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:43 PM
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my SMV has always eclipsed the one of any partner ive had. this has always been obvious. and it is like this for most women. but im not trying to build a harem with the most options possible from both my pool and my partner’s so i dont give a shit if other people have bad taste and dont want to fuck the person im with. i dont like at all the men most of other women like, so thats reassuring actually. they must go for personality and thats sweet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:22 PM
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cant that axiom be applied to a man as well, though? “he was never yours, it was only your turn.” men cheat and leave for better too, and not at a lower rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:19 PM
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while some women surely pursue men considered HV and some even act like simps to them, most women date down, not up. i do think hypergamy exists though, but it is intrinsically human, not female. theres plenty of people who monkey-branch and treat relationships in a consumeristic way, and plenty of people who are willing to humiliate themselves and run after someone they perceive as HV while compromising on their needs and values. its human to always want better, and its human to not value yours…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:16 PM
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yeah this is the downside: as a man, the woman youre dating has picked you among other options including staying single, so you know with reasonable certainty she actually wants you and not just a partner. as a woman, you dont really know if he picked you because youre the one for him or if youre just the only one who was down for it, the hottest one who was down for it or the first one. to the very least, you have to be crazy selective.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:06 PM
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youre right, true alpha straight men only give oral to men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 05:41 PM
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this can only be said by someone who is not capable of love - or simply hasnt been yet. i would not kneel to propose, but i would kneel to declare my love or for a poem. i cant explain it to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 05:40 PM
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yeah selfishness is the reason why most people have sexist beliefs or behaviors. its simply convenient to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 05:31 PM
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this is not a good look on men though, do you not think men love someone regardless of how useful that someone is to empty their balls and fill their stomach?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:42 PM
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i agree with you, obviously. i was saying men dont accept some women have some preferences too, despite what you just said
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:20 PM
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youre not crazy for having specific standards though. why can men have types and not women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:06 PM
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what if i never had any issues finding a partner since becoming a legal age? are my standards still unrealistic? i think men should just work to improve their looks and desirability just like we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:52 PM
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on the apps? anyone nice and fun, im trying to make friends too. and i replied. i found very few attractive men on tinder. idk, maybe 3. i told you the quality is shit. okay, you can have your pick in an all you can eat buffet, but its all foods you dont like at all. be happy, come on, be happy!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:40 PM
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idk i have many autism traits (undiagnosed, but as said, crazy common in women) and men seem to adore most of them and dont mind the bad ones. but i dont do casual so that might be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:37 PM
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i did it with all the men and women that seemed nice and fun (so obviously, not weird, not pushy, not sexualizing, etc.) i did not end up sleeping with any though, so i doubt youll be happy about it. i disagree with anyone treating others as less than human just because theyre not attracted, although ive seen it done mostly by men. but, to answer your question, women match out of desperation. the quality of men on the apps is incredibly depressing, so you have to compromise to put at least some …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:33 PM
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women on average mask better, in fact many are undiagnosed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:22 PM
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what?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:12 PM
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i would also like to add that its incredibly enraging when men then go on and complain about some women having (the lowest possible) aesthetical standards, and call all women superficial for that, despite men’s situation, which op just described.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:10 PM
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why would i eliminate my feeling of disgust towards it? i think its completely fair and rational. why doesnt it line up? i really think it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:53 PM
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wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:33 PM
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ive read plenty of times short men saying tall men should leave short women to them and only date tall women. the opposite case - i.e. short and tall women arguing over tall men, does not exist. reword the rest of your comment please, it seems incoherent like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:26 PM
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on what basis should we be not allowed to feel disgust towards two siblings having sex with each other? i agree that it should be legal if consensual, but demanding people support it and find it wholesome is a bit much. there are people who like to play with feces while having sex, and thats okay between two consenting adults, but the average person will still find it disgusting and its their right to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:24 PM
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im talking about my peers, i dont know that many middle aged or old women and the ones i do know are family or family friends, and are married. im in my early twenties. tall women may argue with short women for tall men, just like short men argue with tall men for short women. but who do you think tall men prefer?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:18 PM
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so you dont because you dont see them doing so on reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:42 PM
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because most of you are from usa. and there overweight women are the majority (70%), while tall women are a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:26 PM
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they simply dont consider them as potential partners. i have had many tall friends and none of them, despite being all mildly to very attractive has a easy dating life. mine is immensely easier, and not because im the hottest girl in the world, but my frame is just smaller and for men that means the world. im not even kidding, ive had men pick me, while i was acting uninterested and literally not talking, over my super funny extroverted friend who was clearly hitting on them and is really hot, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:11 PM
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how do you know that only a small handful of feminists advocate for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:52 PM
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she would have less success (or at most, the same) as a conventionally attractive but unusually short guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:51 PM
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“men are not a monolith, but most men are similar enough. it is that simple.” do you agree with this as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:23 PM
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you see, in order for a person to flirt with you and have witty banter you need two things: them to want to flirt with you, so they must be interested in you them to be capable and liking witty banter one or both of these things are missing in op’s matches. i personally always had witty banter when dating, but in most cases i was the one trying to make things playful. some people wont go along with it, and if you find them boring you simply stop talking to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:22 PM
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literally true but ok. do you think i can tell if a man is 175, 180, 185 or 190 cm? its all the same to me. i see you as “generally tall” until i see you as “way too tall for me”. we just notice if youre about the same height as us, or shorter. and many women still dont mind! and its way more women, than men who are happy to date a woman thats taller or the same height as him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:15 PM
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yes, and its also in no way comparable to “men feeling like the less desired gender”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:09 PM
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look up a word before giving it a fantasy definition. there are ways feminism aims to help men as well (for example: their mental health and emotions, which is unfair men are taught since a young age they can only suppress or they become “less of a man”.) and none in which it aims to hurt them or give them any disadvantage. a high or low sex drive does not make you good or bad. your choices, beliefs and behavior do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:02 PM
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was this supposed to be a funny remark or a thoughtful advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:01 PM
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i was not talking about transactional relationships where sex is payment for finances, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:53 PM
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its everywhere on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:45 PM
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i mostly read men talk about sex in this way online, so i don’t know those people beyond what they define themselves as.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:43 PM
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everytime i read “nice guys” posts that talk about how sex is something the woman does for the man, a reward/favor for him it makes me want to never have sex again. i dont blame women for not fucking them irl since a post is enough to make me want to be chaste forever. the way men talk about sex matters, at least to me. they frame it as something dirty, wrong, something the man takes from the woman, or a service; instead of an act of love two people share, and it makes me feel dirty.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:45 PM
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because we’re talking about the female experience right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:25 PM
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you overestimate benefits and underestimate downsides. its understandable since we all tend to do that with things we didn’t experience firsthand.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:04 AM
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what does that have to do with tinder working exactly like grindr does?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:39 PM
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women invented looksmaxxing. yall just invented the word recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:38 PM
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men get away with many things women dont, like being assertive, thats unfathomable in a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:38 PM
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the bare minimum is to be like a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:21 PM
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i dont know what youre talking about, i have never even seen in real life a woman 100 pounds overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:19 PM
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women do not put these social standards on themselves, but they do enforce it too. we all do, and thats why its so hard to change a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:18 PM
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i told you already its not even about being attractive or not. if you dont conform with standards, you wont be considered attractive,,, ok sure, id be okay with that. but i cant even go out with my hairy legs in sight just because im a woman. if i was a man itd be okay and normal, but since im a woman its disgusting, icky and dirty. if i do, people will stare and comment on it unpleasantly, not simply reject me if i hit on them. even doctors will tell you to shave if you didnt, even if you are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:50 PM
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men get away with a lot of things women dont. for example, a man can be assertive and hes a born leader, an assertive woman is a “bitch”, “bossy”, “frigid” or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:46 PM
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“being unattractive is acceptable and fathomable” doesnt mean “the other gender is sexually attracted to you despite the fact youre unattractive.”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:44 PM
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average women get treated fairly okay, and in fact they are attractive to some degree and to some people. but ive seen the way everyone treats truly ugly women without even noticing it, and its truly awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:07 PM
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its not difficult to find a man willing to fuck you, not to be sexually attractive. two different things when it comes to men. you cant even walk around with hairy legs as a woman , without even talking about who will find you attractive and who wont. its not that you wont be found attractive, you will be found disgusting and made fun of. you have to pretend you dont grow hair, or at least that they are thin, scarce and blonde. as a bare minimum to exist as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:05 PM
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does it really, or does it superficially?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:43 PM
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of course they want to. but women need to, a woman thats not considered fuckable doesnt get respect or consideration in most areas of her life. thats why virtually no woman considers herself ugly, its simply something unacceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:37 PM
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i dont know if its normal, but i did feel it and when i opened up about it i found out many women felt it too. im at peace with my body and my femininity now, but it has been a war for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:11 PM
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some women just like flirting for fun
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:09 PM
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because its acceptable and fathomable for a man to be unattractive. a woman has to at least be fuckable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:01 PM
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bro i keep repeating: it might happen but its not as systemic as it is for women, and also since a young age.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:57 PM
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you just see attraction from your own lenses. its not that women are ace, but for women attraction simply works differently than it does for men in general and for you specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:54 PM
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“women are not into men” and “women are not men” are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:52 PM
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1 no to all points, i already went through why its different for women and men dont go through the same thing and other commenters did as well. 2 so your answer is: “i was never insecure about my body.” thats already very interesting. how often can a woman say the same thing? 3 this is completely offtopic. nowhere was it ever stated that no woman ever criticized a man’s body, nor was anyone talking about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:46 PM
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i found that out progressively from 11 to 17 though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:30 PM
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yeah, boobs (big but also perky, obviously), ass (big but fit but also soft), and not just “generally thin in the stomach”, but a small waist, which is entirely genetic and depends on your bone structure. at least this, growing up, got better, but when i was younger most teens and preteens were awful about this. i still hear acquaintances comment on these kind of things on other women’s bodies from time to time, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:27 PM
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no, boys dont. when did you first start being insecure about your body, how old were you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:24 PM
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this, exactly this. like, me and my peers started having these thoughts and issues when we were 10, stop saying its easier for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:02 PM
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no, the same does not happen to men as a whole, some men may experience it in some periods. and.. society??? have you ever read a female magazine? or even a teen or child magazine? movies, tv shows, the behavior our parents and family have, our peers. the slutshaming since a young age, the obsession with being thin enough but at the same time curvy, and especially around middle and high school boys and girls will criticize your body if it doesn’t look like famous models. then you grow up, start …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:01 PM
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me too honestly. its a turn off for me as well. but i have a very low bodycount, so it makes perfect sense. do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:50 AM
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yeah and it goes for women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:48 AM
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men dont got through nearly as much what women go through with their bodies. women’s bodies are constantly watched, judged, rated, sexualized, since they start developing at a young age. we’re taught since we are kids that our bodies need to look a certain way or theyre not womanly enough, and at the same time that they must be covered up because they are intrinsically sensual, intrinsically dirty. and we’re also taught to enforce these norms with oneself and each other. im considered very attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:15 AM
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i think they also depend on age. i think im way younger than you, im in my early twenties and no one in my circle is getting married
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 04:20 PM
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i think they were referring to the way in a relationship the man often gets kind of “built” by his partner. for example, ive helped my partners become better men, but ive never felt they did the same on me. might just be my personal experience though
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:39 PM
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tell that to a judge in a court💀 you sound insane
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:20 PM
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are you seriously not understanding? if shes cleaning for both shes making a service. if they split the areas of the house to clean equally then its just normal adulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:24 PM
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its their house, shes cleaning it -> thats a service. acting like a normal nice person is not a service and feeling like it is usually is a sign youd benefit from therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:18 PM
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your own house? do men live in the streets?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:15 PM
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are you dense? being “nice and good” is not an act of service. everyone expects their partner to be “nice and good” or do you like people “bad and mean”?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:04 PM
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yeah but also many women date and sleep with very unattractive men at some point or even often, so some probably arent that superficial in filtering and value other qualities more.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 01:40 AM
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it may not be for men but it is not for (idk if all but surely many) women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 12:26 AM
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if thats how you want to see it… but most men cant do anything to be liked by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:47 PM
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thats great actually. an added benefit to this is i get to vet out men like you and dont waste neither of our time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:43 PM
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speak about yourself. i do
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:37 PM
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as i was saying, no man is a “yes” from the beginning, at most he can be a “maybe” and then become a “yes” over the time of us dating. this being said, i wouldnt say the men who got a “yes” from me are equally attractive. only speaking about physical attractiveness, i like my current bf’s features more than i used to like my ex’s when i was dating him. my ex was more successful with women though so yeah, its subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:36 PM
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i think people who buy sex are usually not desirable at all, or they wouldnt need to buy sex. and having sex to someone youre not attracted to or perhaps even disgusted by is not better than having sex with someone youre not attracted to because theyre not the right gender. id never stop feeling dirty and violated. well, talking about myself, different people may feel different.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:30 PM
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what? do you mean men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:14 PM
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attraction for men is binary for me as well. theres “no” and then theres “maybe”. i vet the “maybe’s” and if i can see myself ending up with one of them i keep dating them, then we make things official (or they end because one person doesnt like the other anymore) and then its a “yes”. now, my standards are high compared to most women, and this works well for me. but different women might experience things differently and have different goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:07 PM
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many young boys or men have been victims of trafficking or other horrible things. wtf are you saying
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:54 PM
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then maybe it doesnt really make sense to complain about it as if it was this great thing you wish you could do but cant. because you can. you just don’t want to do it, just like most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:42 PM
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why not? plenty of men are gay. ive even heard there are more men’s feet fetishists than women’s feet fetishists
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:40 PM
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i dont sleep with men on the first date, nor any other following date. so thats just normal. just weigh how much you like me, and if you really like me - so my personality as well, not just my body. and youll know: if i dont like you ill simply end things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:35 PM
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why only if you were gay? you never said it was a good way of living, but its easier than working for things, right? then, by all means, give out blowjobs for benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:31 PM
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that might sound like a good way of living to you, but it doesnt to many women. and btw, you can give out blowjobs for favors and show off your holes for money as well, no one is stopping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:21 PM
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ive paid for many women, its not a big deal at all. you sound hysterical, its literally just paying for a date. invite her to coffee or to drinks if you cant even afford a dinner for two with someone you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:43 PM
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and thats according to whom? “just being cute and nice” would be the standards a lesbian has for her partner? does that sound realistic to you? and again, according to whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:43 AM
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thats deep
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:31 AM
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so youre saying women have standards that are too high, but actually not all women, just straight women while lesbians have low standards. why do you think this is the explanation and not men who complain about this simply not meeting normal standards? since its not a issue everyone has with women, women dont and not all men do, then maybe the issue is not where you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:29 AM
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i got women as a woman on tinder, it actually surprised me how easy it was. i dont think being a man and therefore having a larger dating pool would make things harder
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 06:22 PM
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hes two years younger than her (so shes 30, hes 28) and “hes barely a man” and also “borderline teen looking”? i sure hope you keep up the same attitude for age gap relationship where the man is the older one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 10:49 AM
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you do know that not every woman thats not a virgin has hookups, right? theres plenty of women who just slept with people they dated, and yall are shaming them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:06 PM
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men should learn to go without sex as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:50 PM
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the thing is, if someone is ready to be alone and wont complain about it, theyre allowed to have absurd standards. they just wont date. and that’s perfectly fine, i actually support that position. if i was ugly and couldn’t land someone i was into, i wouldnt date at all and just focus on friendships instead of dating someone thats ugly like me. but i wouldnt complain about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:48 PM
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attractiveness makes it easier to land people at first, an attractive man with a shitty personality will still land some (not very smart or selective) women, while an ugly one with the same personality won’t. and the same is true in reverse. but if we’re speaking longterm, then attractiveness stops holding value. being hot wont keep you a partner if your personality sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:45 PM
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this is true, but ive never witnessed someone feeling bad for their looks and saying “yeah since im ugly its only natural that attractive people won’t date me” its always about the crazy standards hot people of the other gender has. average people have average standards, but thats not who people who complain about them want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:40 PM
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yeah most people are delusional about their attractiveness, of course. and they would rather tell themselves other people have crazy standards rather than admit to themselves theyre not so desirable. and with desirable i dont just mean physical attractiveness but overall desirability as a partner/sexual partner. you dont think so? EDITS
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:35 PM
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i think its just that both men and women who talk about this have in mind an extremely desirable man/woman’s standards while they themselves are not. theyre not thinking about the average man/woman and theyre projecting their experience in dating - which reflects directly how desirable they are to the other sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:29 PM
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then you have no reason to want to date virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 04:56 PM
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if you can grow sexually with someone so can a woman whos not a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:43 AM
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she can feel exactly like you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:43 AM
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by your logic you should never blame women for any of her sexual choices, since its men defining sex for them they should be the ones to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:32 AM
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on online spaces, women “defend” it and men dont because women are the only ones being aggressively shamed for it? what to you seem a “defense” is actually just calling out the hypocrisy of men who shame women for having a high body count while they themselves do as well, we just want to be judged equally. ive never had any interest in casual sex and i dont think it does good to most people, i dont hold hypocritical double standards like that its okay for men and bad for women. however i dont ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:29 AM
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then if its so important in a relationship, why do you find so unacceptable that a woman might have met another person she liked before she met you? especially when you have too, presumably several times.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:21 AM
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more like worlds smallest brain lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:45 AM
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im in a loving relationship and even when i was single no one ever could hit and quit shit with me because i dont sleep around, you are projecting. also, good luck with that shitty karma of yours, and merry christmas EDIT how are you such a loser that you completely change comments according to what i replied to it with
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:41 AM
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then they should have sex among themselves or be santioned legally when doing it with women if its so bad for women as you say
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:37 AM
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what if she feels the same about you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:34 AM
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grow with you? so you’re a virgin too?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:31 AM
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newsflash, jealousy is not exclusive to men, no one likes thinking about their partner with someone else. well, except non monogamist or those who have a fetish, but you got the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:28 AM
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and they still date you? damn where do you find such losers
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:25 AM
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it sucks for her than she couldnt have someone not easy and more open bc they havent been broken in the past, someone with whom the sex has more meaning bc its not something he just uses to get off, he actually wants you bc he loves you and youre the only one he lets his control down, not just one of many, the only one dumb enough to be down for this position.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:22 AM
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and thats exactly what they want. sex performed for them by someone who was trained to please them specifically, and on nothing else
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:19 AM
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if being with a virgin makes everything so much more magical why dont you save yourself too so she can have that experience as well? why would you get to fuck many virgins just to then get bored and get another one to “ruin” according to your ideology. you just want to be special and in a position of power towards her, while shes just another body to you, who probably lost your ability to love genuinely at the first/second girl because you just kept jumping into a relationship after another, a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:14 AM
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how can you say for certain its because women rate men more harshly and not because women are more attractive than men because they put more effort into their appearance? obviously someone who invests more time and money into their appearance is likely to look better than someone who doesnt, look at celebrities for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 11:35 AM
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its like not using cars or planes or trains because you can have accidents. you can do it but it will seriously limit your life
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 07:09 AM
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just treat them normally and dont hit on them? the only options arent “ignore and avoid” and “hit on them”.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 07:04 AM
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still not answering. anyway, youre proving the point of people making that kind of videos. if you think rapists rape because they lack self control, then it makes sense to say “look, even dogs can control themselves.” and you should not feel attacked if you can control yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:42 PM
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with “we” you mean you, you mean men or you mean everyone? i dont relate to this at all, theres plenty of reasons why i dont murder, steal, rape or commit atrocities. anyway, you didnt answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:37 PM
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“sex is something people need (..) so taking sex by force is a matter of lack of self control.” so youre saying the only thing preventing any man, whos not currently having sex, from raping is self control, is that exact? what percentage of men do you think possess this kind of self control?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:29 PM
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as women we’re more socialized to give back. as a woman id feel guilty (and probably would be judged harshly) not doing so, while my male partner feels less pressure in returning favors/gift/support to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 09:40 PM
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i think most people who love their partner if they could comfortably afford to would let them not work
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 09:29 PM
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easy, it depends on whats your goal and how dependent you are on the outcome (getting a serious/casual partner). most women want a quality relationship which you need to be extremely selective for - implying that you must be okay with being alone. you want sex, no matter with who and youre not okay with being alone, therefore you have to settle for whatever goes. women tell you to be more selective because they cant fathom how you could be so desperate that youd rather a rando than being alone. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 09:11 PM
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this makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 08:14 PM
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wasnt this stat taken out of okcupid or something like that? even if it was accurate, itd mean women see 80% of single men as below average in looks. it would make sense that the better ones and the ones who actually take care of themselves (something all women do but only few men do, and this also heavily influences disparities in attractiveness among the genders) would be taken already. i dont think thats accurate though, ive always witnessed women having really low standards for men’s looks. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 07:45 PM
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mhm. so what dont you agree with
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 07:40 PM
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thats below average men though, if youre average youre not unattractive but somewhat attractive/decent
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 08:56 AM
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so you agreed with me when i said i agreed with you? is this satire?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 08:55 AM
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some women may do that, but dont some men too? they are old and they want young women, theyre unattractive and want an attractive woman, etc. some men will claim to want love and a healthy relationship but then go for the hottest woman they can land even if shes stupid, crazy or mean. why do men on reddit always have to act like all women are the same and fake and stupid and hypocritical and everything you men always say while all men are moral, mature and only date women based on personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 06:27 PM
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just because some people are so desperate that theyll take anything it doesnt mean everyone should or that it is even a smart thing to do. i think theyre doing themselves and the people they date a disservice, it is preferable to be single than to settle for anything thats available no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 06:20 PM
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agreed. thats what i always did and i dont believe im a unicorn, i think most emotionally mature women do it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 06:18 PM
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exactly, ive never met any woman who had a 6 feet tall standards for the men she dates or sleeps with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 06:07 PM
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men dont have lower standards than women for what is considered a pretty face.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 06:04 PM
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hence, below average, and still gets laid with hot women. the issue might be personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 10:05 PM
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well how are you expecting anyone to get laid without both looks and personality
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 10:02 PM
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or, aesthetical standards for men dont matter that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 09:58 PM
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for the personality? damn, is having a nice personality enough to be above average? you might be giving men too little credit
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 08:07 PM
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hes about 170cm, doesnt work out, face below average. really nice personality though
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:56 PM
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how would i only be surrounded by above average men? no, its all type of men. for example, just recently, a below average friend of my bf scored two of my hottest friends
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:46 PM
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i dont feel its harder for men at all among my peers, im from europe
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:38 PM
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idk im from europe, i rarely see obese people and i dont pay much attention to who they date but reading your post two things come to mind: 1. objectively speaking, considering balance a standard of beauty, (on average) an obese woman looks way better than a man whos just as obese as her. simply because her physique is likely to be more balanced, since women have breasts and ass that balance the figure. 2. there are men who fetishize obese women, like there are who fetishize most other types of …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:18 PM
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and that influences their overall attractiveness. you just don’t notice whats wrong consciously.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:12 PM
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its not just hygiene and style. women (on average) do so much more for their appearance since basically teenage years, its obvious that they end up being way more attractive (on average). what you invest in grows.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:10 PM
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not yours nor men’s for sure. then whom? other women? yeah, probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 12:39 PM
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excuse me, are you name-calling just because i disagree with you? it baffles me how arrogance, ignorance and rudeness always go hand in hand. and the way this same kind of people always mistakes politeness - because they lack it - for occasion to bring someone else down. its never the sharpest tool, but it always think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 05:52 AM
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okay so with “men are socially engineered to feel empathy for women from childhood” you just mean that acting aggressively towards women is frowned upon? well, that makes sense, and id rather argue for it to be more frowned upon in general, regardless of gender; instead of that its a privilege coming from the extraordinary empathy given to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:27 PM
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genuinely asking, can you elaborate on the social engineering to feel empathy for women from childhood? i have not observed this among my peers
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 06:45 PM
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i just think the comparison highlights the way this person views women and intimacy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:31 PM
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you didnt answer my question. also empathy from whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:51 AM
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thats not a point. do you feel empathy for women and their struggles? do you think most men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:28 AM
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youre not only having great sex with your partner, youre also confident in yourself and not insecure at all. what should we think? youre really cool, shes a lucky woman
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:04 AM
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the men complaining about a lack of empathy have no empathy themselves for other people, and surely not for the people they demand empathy from.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:01 AM
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toys? why not going through childhood without love? why toys?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:24 AM
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oh no its not. most high earning women dont mind, but their partner do and are much more likely to cheat on her
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:22 PM
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ok, if you insist. lets stop at your first “fact”: literally never heard it offline. you know what ive heard a lot though? men taking about them not caring enough about eating a woman out. and the social backlash? none. also feel free to ask women you know how many of them have met this kind of men. happy now?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:16 PM
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how are you still missing the point? pornography as a whole is extremely catered to men’s desires, some lesbian porn is the only offer on the market that can cater to women’s desire. so something remotely involving her own pleasure and not just pain/manhandling/strangling her and whatnot. also the vast majority of men do not get off on a woman getting pleasure, or porn wouldnt be the way it is. lets not get ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:24 PM
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find one thing that makes sense is the real challenge
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:22 PM
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i dont know because its not me, but perhaps most of the straight women watching lesbian porn just prefer it to most straight porn thats on the market? like, the woman doesnt get manhandled and actually gets pleasured? maybe they just like that, like men like watching bj scenes?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 05:26 PM
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yeah, ill just say its not true, theres no point arguing further for me if im doubting your reality testing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 05:13 PM
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man youre rambling
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 05:07 PM
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this is just not true
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:46 PM
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then why complain about anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:44 PM
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two things can be true at the same time, yknow. if it was reproduction centered why would escorts exist? why would casual sex? blowjobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:43 PM
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everyone needs to be nurtured at times. dont nurture your woman and shell look for it elsewhere. wtf is “a mans power”?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:40 PM
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we should start shaming men for their bodycounts like they do with us. best case we all start accepting each other, worst case they stop treating us as objects and all people date their bc match. when i was single i would reject men who didnt have low bodycounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:36 PM
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see, you proved my point. as a woman blowing is essential, exactly. while theres plenty of men who wont go down on their partners, and their partners are just ok with it and still blow them, because its normalized. but which gender mostly doesnt finish from anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:32 PM
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yeah, it is extremely hypocritical. but its not illegal, people are allowed to be hypocritical at times.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:30 PM
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and then said man dates said virgin, then gets bored and wants diversity, drops her and by his logic shes now spoiled forever and he can go and spoil another virgin. i hate this view they have of us, its so consumerist and we are the objects they want to consume. we’re not objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:28 PM
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as if most men didnt stop loving women after his first relationship gone bad. at least women on average work more on themselves and get over heartbreaks better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:25 PM
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off topic, but i learnt at uni that this and fear of women are the most frequent reasons many pedophiles are attracted to kids. just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:23 PM
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exactly. the point is not their preference we couldnt care less about, the point is 1. the reasons why they want said virgin, which are often rooted in insecurity and wanting to control and manipulate their young and inexperienced partner. 2. the underlying conviction they spread about women losing value by having sex while men only acquire it. women are just as human as men are and a woman sleeping around is exactly the same as a man doing so. women are not a commodity, theyre people. we should…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:21 PM
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its not just that. the way we view and have sex is very male-centered. just think about the fact many people dont even consider foreplay sex, just PIV - which the majority of women cant orgasm from. just think about how many women dont do blowjobs - very few, and man can finish from many other things - and how many men don’t do cunnilingus - way more, and most women only finish from it. theres even more to the topic but i think this is enough to make you understand its not just a matter of biolo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:15 PM
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more than “too much to routinely handle” id say many men cant be bothered
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:09 PM
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not all nerdy guys are scared of women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:15 PM
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second one. id assume he wouldnt be desperate for sex since he has plenty and it wouldnt occur him to rape me, especially if i took steps to make myself unattractive on purpose. (sorry)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 01:35 PM
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there are so many things unfair in life, why is this the only one youd be mad about
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 12:27 PM
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if the average man took care of himself and invested in his appearance as much as the average woman does dating would be the same difficulty, or even easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 12:25 PM
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men dont decrease in attractiveness with age? 😂 i didnt know having a Y cromosome made you immune to mortality and getting old
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 12:50 PM
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a woman over the age of forty also has less options
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 11:51 PM
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not the op
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 02:08 PM
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not having options doesnt make one loyal, just like a life without danger doesnt make one brave.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 02:06 PM
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i dont think thats what she meant to say. being cheated on and breaking up always sucks, but “okay, he cheated and its over. at least we had good times together and it was nice while it lasted.” is way better than “okay, he cheated and its over. why did i have to date him when i dont even like him and he still went out of his way to cheat on me, i just wasted my time and i feel like i disrespected myself”.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 02:04 PM
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i dont see this dynamic making a healthy relationship though, imo both partners need to be somehow similarly attracted to each other, especially if we’re considering the weight it has on effort and caring.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:57 PM
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i can be attracted to a person others find ugly, but not to someone i find ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:54 PM
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yeah, everyone has the same chance to disappoint you so you should pick someone you actually like and feel connected to and feel its easier to trust etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:53 PM
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im not sure loving oneself counts as loving men :( anyway its great that you do, most people, especially here, especially men, don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 03:53 PM
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oh yeah? name one man you love more than i do
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 03:46 PM
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no i actually love men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 03:26 PM
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because they all think theyre the magical special exception, the girl thats so mature despite her young age, the one thats different than the others - and i get it, we all deep down want to be special - until the relationship inevitably collapses and she finds out hes just a perv and was using her and then she goes around complaining about it, online and irl, to people open to listen, like myself. what men dont understand is that we’ve all been preyed on by older men, and we’ve all either been t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:58 PM
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yeah, im obviously judging both of them. her as naive and him as a bad person. and its not because women my age are children, its because young women in age gap relationships are often being taken advantage of and are not realizing it until its over and they matured a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:38 AM
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i explained it in another comment
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:13 PM
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first of all, it wont be effective until february, if its approved by the Senato. background: a change was necessary because of the convention of istanbul, which commits the signatory countries to criminally prosecute those responsible for sexual violence, fundamentally defining it as ‘non-consensual sexual acts’, where consent is defined as follows: “consent must be given voluntarily as the free expression of a person’s will, and it must be assessed in the context of the surrounding situation.”…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:10 PM
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its not a feminicide law, its about consent and rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 02:19 PM
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exactly. also by this logic, how are women even friends with each other
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:49 PM
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if you’re boring you are unpleasant. you have to be able to have at least a somewhat interesting conversation with another person in order to develop healthy friendships and relationships. its really not something absurd nor impossible, just like its not impossible to become a bit more extroverted. i did it, every introverted person who wanted to adapt into society did it. everyone is bettering themselves, you just dont notice it. and you cant do it (change, better yourself) because you’ve convi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:57 PM
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bro but if youre ugly and unpleasant to be around why would anyone want to date you, its pretty unreasonable to expect people to. you either improve yourself like proactive people do or give up like passive people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:48 PM
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but you are tall
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:46 PM
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so “the dream” would be to date for example your ex right after her relationship with you, who had a relationship but one where both people werent into each other and therefore didnt have sex. thats a weird thing to want in a partner imo, and i would not define it as “relationship experience”. of course she wouldnt have had the experience of being in a relationship with someone shes into (and its reciprocal). so itd be a first time for her and she obviously wouldnt know how to act and deal with …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:00 PM
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you see, even this argument is illogical, unless we’re talking about teenagers, and i surely hope we are not. an adult who has had relationships has also had sex, unless theyre not into sex for any reason or they are waiting for marriage, but in both cases they dont fit men’s fantasy, as they wouldnt have sex in a relationship with you either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 01:13 PM
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this. men want the young hot girl who never had a relationship and then are shocked when she turns out to be inexperienced at relationships and overreacts like everyone did when they were young and inexperienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:04 AM
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i definitely dont think thats what the average couple looks like, have you read it on a study ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 11:59 PM
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i think youre too biased. if your reasoning is that people date who they have fun with, money has a bigger influence on how much fun you can have and what you can do to have fun than looks do. money also isn’t necessarily something “you get from your partner”, i assume in most financial-gap relationships its more like something shared, something you use to spoil your partner. instead, beauty can be seen as something you get from your partner, and it is a very materialistic thing ti look for, its…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 07:34 PM
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from a rational perspective: money is someone’s attribute just as much as beauty is. with the difference beauty is just luck and not merit, while money is often merit, and having made it showcases a list of desirable attributes in a partner (hardworking, smart, ambitious, etc.). imo as long as both people gave their informed consent it is okay, the issue is when youre tricking someone into thinking you love them when youre just after money or just like fucking their body. i would never compare d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 07:00 PM
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first of all, tone it down. we’re not talking about me here, i date for love. but you should stop moralizing other people for doing the same thing you do. debatable, but dating for looks might even be worse. now ill leave you alone to realize the women saying they dont need men are different people than those dating for money who are also different people than women just dating men they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 06:01 PM
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dating for money is no different than dating for looks. both are okay if the other part consents, do it, but you shouldnt feel superior for wanting a hot body to those wanting a good lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:06 PM
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there are middle steps between being a pushover and walking away immediately
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 12:45 PM
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many men dont respect themselves enough and many women can, on occasion, be out of pocket or cruel in the worst cases and thats true. but i also think on average men tend to put so much less effort into their relationship than women, especially on an emotional level. and extended periods of time of neglecting and ignoring your partner’s feelings and needs can disrupt your relationship and also, their behavior towards you. im not excusing anyone, but i think youre oversimplifying this topic and y…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 12:44 PM
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it would make sense to shame them equally if it was a symmetrical power dynamic, but its not, its asymmetrical so obviously the one with more power gets shamed more. do you also believe we should critique men for being aesthetically hypergamous? surely if we shame people for being after money we should also shame them for being obsessed with looks. even more when money at least are useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 12:36 PM
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i dont know, do we have any data to assess that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 06:16 PM
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thats a whole different topic
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 02:40 PM
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domestic violence is not an indicator of sexual assault towards other women in general
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 02:37 PM
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no, i know. most often theyre people i know, and even when its a half-stranger, i notice when someone is attracted to me or if its just a straight girl being friendly. women have the privilege of being considered safe because they assault each other at a incredibly lower rate than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 02:27 PM
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would i go to war to stop men from randomly slapping butts jokingly like women do? definitely no
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 01:47 PM
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were not okay forgoing consent. but it is in my power to give an advice for this lady, it is not in my power to make all women stop slapping each other’s butts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 01:34 PM
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i get it, im that way as well. but her life is going to suck real hard if she doesnt learn how to put up boundaries, despite being timid and non-confrontational.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 01:32 PM
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but you dont have to. if her friends are making your gf uncomfortable she should talk to them about it and explain how she feels, if theyre decent friends theyll care and take steps in order to stop making her uncomfortable, otherwise she should stop wasting her time and energy on people who dont care about her. might be hard to both speak up and (perhaps) distance herself eventually but in both cases its actually a win.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 01:27 PM
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she should speak up
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 01:21 PM
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i thought the gf was uncomfortable with it but now that im rereading the post it doesnt say that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 01:20 PM
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normal where i live as well. it doesnt really bother me when its done to me because i know their intent isnt predatory but i find it a really odd behavior. id feel super weird doing it myself
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 01:18 PM
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absolutely first option. id assume you know what you want and you know whats good for you. i find it hard to believe someone else would assume the second option (i dont find those “bad hot” people hot tbh, i believe attraction to them mostly comes from unresolved insecurity/trauma) but perhaps im influenced by the fact thats my case - we all tend to generalize our own experiences. EDIT: () these
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 12:50 PM
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its not hard, its just that many people (because both men and women can happen to do it) are not so emotionally intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 12:33 PM
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this is a good idea, but id add the requirement that for it to be possible the man must have protected sex, as far as he knows at least. either shes on the pill or he uses a condom. and then if something goes wrong he can have the paper abortion the woman was already aware hed be getting. ideally we want to avoid the situation where the need to abort altogether arises. the only issue with this is that sex would still be way riskier for the woman, but its reasonably fair until we find a way to ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 11:20 AM
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i have no idea where you got these takes from, what is it that i said that you interpreted this way?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 11:11 AM
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i personally dislike the entitled, women-hating ones. nothing against chill people, no matter how attractive or not they are. i dont bodyshame people, but most times i see it done on men its because they previously did it themselves or said another disrespectful thing. people tend to do it when arguing when one or both have already crossed the line, not randomly out of the blue. it also happens almost exclusively online. still wrong to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 10:47 AM
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totally agree with your point. also, why wouldnt the solution to “no one wants to date me” simply be “i have to make myself more desirable”? why must we always scream against the wind instead of changing ourselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 11:58 AM
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a lot of ladies already do go for 3s and 4s. they vastly overestimate men’s attractiveness and also want us to go for 1s too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 11:56 AM
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youre misinterpreting this situation. lets say you hit on a friend of mine and she rejects you. if later on you hit on me, i probably wont even consider you an option, not because youre a creep for hitting on my friend, but because i dont want to be with someone who considers me the second choice. would you love being with a woman who was previously into your friend? its not even the act of her rejecting you that disqualifies you, its the act of hitting on her. even if she accepted your advances…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 11:50 AM
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thats the thing though. youre allowed to breakup for any, no matter how petty, reason you want, and people are allowed to judge you for any, no matter how petty, reason they want. sometimes you may be in the right, sometimes in the wrong, but at the end of the day it is your job to make yourself happy. just try to hurt as few other people in the process as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 11:37 AM
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i disagree with you. i cant make the comparison with before Metoo because i was way too young to be approached, but right now, i get approached often enough. i dont see any disrupted social interactions because of deeming them “inappropriate”. most men are respectful and able to interact in a positive way with women (too), while others still arent able to. it might be neurodivergence, faulty education, chronic usage of social medias, antisocial tendencies or mental health struggles but if it was…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 11:34 AM
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because no one likes who does. but if you dont care about being liked or manage to not get caught, well, ts your life
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:34 PM
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“Finally, if a woman would only have sex with a man if he gives her companionship in return, then that means she's not really attracted to him anyway. So she's already lying to him by omitting her lack of attraction. So his own disonesty is retroactively justified by hers.” or maybe she just has a normal relationship with sex instead of a crazy obsessive one, and she wants to do the most physically intimate thing with someone she has a bond with and not some rando she feels nothing for. it seems…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:28 PM
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no, youre just talking about extremely specific situations that (probably) happened to you, but that you cant generalize. both cases are about reading people and social cues, something everyone needs to be able to do in order to live happily in a society with other human beings. this ability is also needed with your friends, at the workplace, at school, at social gatherings, when travelling, etc. we can argue some cues are too hard to read or not explicit enough, especially for people who arent …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:15 PM
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just like women have to be “mind readers” and just know if a guy is actually into them or only wants to sleep with them. except its not mind reading but simply understanding other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 04:56 PM
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im a woman and i never got this talk. its easy, when you were lucky enough to have good parents, to assume all parents are like yours but the truth is just that you lucked out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 12:35 PM
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im not complaining because i essentially dont care, but its not a secret schools and workplaces are the principal places to meet new people. or at least hobbies attended by both genders. also, most people, especially if theyre single, tend to focus on their career and education, not spend all day at parks and restaurants.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 08:23 PM
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when did i ever say that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 02:49 PM
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you dodged a bullet because it would have been worse if she still dated you. imagine how much hurt a relationship with someone who doesnt like that thing about you would have brought you. also, imo, if a person rejects you its always for your own good, if its not the right person its just not, the sooner you know it the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 09:13 AM
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everyone is equally valuable, we should strive for an egalitarian world and we shouldnt judge people by appearance and everything, but if people have to pick you as an exclusive life partner or even as someone to have sex with - which is obviously something intimate - of course they have to be attracted to you in all cases and deeply like you as a person in some cases. dating someone youre into is not, in any way, judging everyone else negatively. its important to be a good man, or person, but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 09:06 AM
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yes of course
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 10:50 PM
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youre twisting things. the average man consumes too much porn, addicts arent some, they’re worryingly too many. how often do you think consuming it is okay? how about in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:49 PM
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if you look at systematic reviews, watching pornography may be a healthy phenomenon if it is occasional, not impairing the personal and social life; however, it can become pathological if watched excessively and impairs the individual’s functioning. so yeah, it makes sense even on a scientific level not to want to date a porn addict man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 02:53 PM
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why would a cheating bi man give you more STDs than a cheating straight man?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 12:03 PM
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just because you made a comparison it doesnt mean that it makes sense. also, youre kind of missing the point here. you said only unsuccessful men speak up when they see other men prey on date significantly younger women. i told you thats not true. yeah, many men suck like that, im aware because it happens to me as well and if they werent so so many we wouldn’t even be talking about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 11:57 AM
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youre just proving me right at this point. you said its for better “looks” - so a younger hotter girl to fuck. you said with “less baggage” - so them having had few or no relationships. so, also easier to mold to your whims since with less experience youre less likely to know what you like and what you dont and to have the confidence to stand your ground when youre not comfortable with something. its clear as day you do not view this kind of “partners” you pick as your peers or even as partners …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 11:49 AM
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actually, porn damages your sexual life, your brain, the way you view women, your ability to for relationships and so on. if you dont think so, just do a quick little search online.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 11:38 AM
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the conversation wasnt about welfare
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 08:06 PM
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i dont, they shouldnt be.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 08:05 PM
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its a ridiculous argument to make. i wont date a man with a porn-rotted brain so you wont pay your contries taxes? we probably dont even live in the same country, but even if we did itd be hilarious. anyway, go on and enjoy what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:18 PM
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what is even his argument? “if you don’t want to date someone with a porn rotted brain then i dont want to pay taxes in my country anymore”?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 08:57 AM
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agreed. but its still better if you dont watch it. you dont really need it afterall
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 08:04 AM
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you think so? when have you ever been expected to pay up for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:25 PM
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pardon, how are you expected to pay for my wellfare?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:10 PM
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i do indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:09 PM
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and this is why id rather be alone than date a desperate and/or porn addict man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 09:19 PM
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this. op is missing the point when he basically is the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 09:17 PM
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why women? most people have a issue with taking any kind of criticism
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 06:52 PM
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yes they are. being satisfied with your life doesnt prevent you from having a moral, id argue it makes it easier instead. congrats for not caring but thankfully there are people who do, and some of them happen to be successful men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 06:33 PM
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i dont think you quite grasp the difference between “studies findings are currently mixed so its not fully supported by the literature” and “illogical”. it is logical, you just dont like it. why else would you only date significantly younger women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 06:30 PM
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yeah, this sucks but its kinda obvious. i thought we all had to come to terms with it like in middle school? im appalled by how some people are still so shocked attractive people get more attention than unattractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 05:18 PM
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you have a twisted conception of settling. anyway, if not picking an hypothetical better looking stranger rather than your partner because you prefer your partner is what you intend with “settling” then “settling” is a great thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:19 PM
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people dont work like ai, it doesnt matter that it seems like a better option.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 12:20 PM
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no??? people arent interchangeable, hes not a bag. why would i prefer a stranger, even if he was the most handsome and charming man ever, to a man i deeply trust and built a relationship with? when you’re in a relationship youre supposed to also build a friendship with that person, would you exchange your best friend youre also in love with for a stranger who seems to have the same personality but is better?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 12:15 PM
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then yall are doomed to settle as low as the options go.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 12:08 PM
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theres always someone objectively better than you in something, but if you love someone other people cant compare to you subjectively
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 12:07 PM
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no, its right to be honest about it, but this is not the experience of the average man, its yours. its not about being butthurt, but i would never date someone that feels that way about me and him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 09:50 PM
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imo good choice, dont close yourself off were you to meet someone you actually like though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 09:05 PM
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has nothing to do with options, i talked about being fine with being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 09:04 PM
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you cant be sure of anything in your life, but you can be pretty sure of many things. im pretty sure. he has not really liked a girl before me, only had a couple crushes that came and went over the years for the most decent girls there were in his class, his words not mine. but checks out. he doesnt have a celebrity crush, he cant for the love of god tell me the name of a woman he thinks is hot, besides jennifer aniston, which he liked when he was like 8-10 years old. i have no one to be jealous…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 06:32 PM
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i never liked the idea of being outcome independent either, but had i not tried to be at least to some extent, i would have killed myself already. i envy your life, it must be really good and you must be really lucky if you can let your wellbeing depend reliably on external stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 06:28 PM
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but if youre detached to the outcome - meaning you’re ok with ending up alone - youre going to be okay either way. the mindset you should have here is “id rather be alone than with a woman that doesnt make me happy and isnt right for me”. if thats not true then youre never going to not settle. yeah, rejection can hurt but i dont see how its related here unless youre suggesting someone might settle just to avoid being rejected more, but id say that someone shouldnt live his life for fear. there a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 06:10 PM
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no, i didnt
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 06:06 PM
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i dont understand what youre trying to say here im sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 05:52 PM
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im pretty sure he didnt settle, his behavior shows it. hes also the selective type, like me. everything keeps circling back to my point: jt makes sense to compare a job to a relationship only if you have the same scarcity and desperate mindset: you need a job to survive so you take the best you can get. but you dont actually need a relationship to survive. you could do just fine being alone. the people who realize and believe that have a better time dating than anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 05:50 PM
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its the same thing. if men were okay with being alone they wouldnt lower their standards
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 05:46 PM
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thats not what my comment was about
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 05:19 PM
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the fact that women pick is not based on having a roster, its based on being willing to stay alone. most men are not, thats why they have to settle. like in every negotiation, if you dont truly need the other part you have more power and will walk away with a bigger win.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 05:16 PM
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sorry, didnt see quotation marks
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 05:13 PM
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and thats right. women are valued on desirability only on looks. the solution isnt to hate on pretty women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 05:12 PM
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why do yall care so much? shes famous, and like every famous person does weird shit she can afford to do just because shes rich and famous. and shes nice to look at. whats the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 05:11 PM
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well done then. more men should aspire to be like you, youre the proof its possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 05:08 PM
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but thats just him after having worked on himself, not someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 05:05 PM
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you could start doing that. might be little but its going to be something. start with trying to build a support net with your friends you all can rely on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 05:02 PM
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slowly opening up does not necessarily mean settling. me and my bf slowly opened up to each other, but we didnt settle. theres not only two extremes - only raw passion and settling for the most you can have. we both feel we’re not only partners, but also friends, which is think shows its a good balance. of course, a relationship its never going to give you the tingles forever and thats normal, but it doesnt mean you have to settle for someone you dont think its the best person ever. besides, whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:57 PM
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i cant imagine someone better than him
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:50 PM
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well, if were going with “happy satisfied and in love” then thats cool, but we were talking about men settling because they cant have someone better. thats not the same thing. the mere act of wishing for someone else denies love for your partner. unless youre poly, ofc. i dont understand your second paragraph. no i would not want someone who obsesses or even desires celebrities or other women. thats why i told you it sucks to date someone whos with you because they cant have better. i want someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:49 PM
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i disagree with you. i think we should all strive to be better. not just materialistically, but overall. if i let my bf waste his life away thatd mean i didnt love him. and i would have done a disservice to many people he will help in the future. hes great and can do amazing things, why fucking not theres nothing worse than to remain the same your whole life. its a wasted life. become smarter, kinder, calmer, stronger, more confident, etc. the real challenge is with yourself. also, a job is a jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:44 PM
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“men hardly ever divorce”, because theyre more likely to cheat or to be separated at home, because its comfortable to have a woman who does stuff around the house. those studies do not account for that, nor for the fact that women just filed the divorce, but we dont know who took the decision and delegated it to her, or she ended up doing it for closure after being separated for a while. women tend to do this kind of invisible labour. ill tell you, in the best relationship both need and love eac…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:37 PM
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you’re making a petitio principii. anyway, the crucial difference between women and men, is that women (not all, most, or anyway more than men) are willing to be alone if they dont find the one they want. this, in any negotiation gives you immense power, especially compared to men - who are usually not willing to stay alone and eager to lower their standards or do anything just in order not to be alone. theres your issue. its like women are selling cigarettes and men are smokers, they can put th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:27 PM
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how
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:19 PM
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in your case it might be more related to you than to the people you were dating, afterall. even if im wrong, which i might very well be, my point is that its false that everyone settles. to reply to your question, he does try to an extent but he tends to be too accepting/coddling of my weaknesses/flaws, and i really wish he did push me more to be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:18 PM
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thatd be the ideal relationship for the man, not for both.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:13 PM
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a relationship needs balance. if he has more power than her in most cases its going to be a shitshow. yeah, physical power, or perhaps money, authority, but surely not power in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:11 PM
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ill give you an example. my bf is not perfect. the first time i saw him i knew he was the person for me, and it was the same for him. hes not objectively the hottest man in the world, but i personally think he is. he has always had many good qualities i really liked about him, but he was awful at communicating, which incidentally, is crucial to me. it made us argue many times, but we also talked a lot and in depth about it, and he worked on it with me helping him how i could. with time hes becom…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:08 PM
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why would a man need to have “more power” in the relationship in order to protect his partner? the optimal situation is obviously one where both cherish each other, a 60/40 relationship where both try to be the one who gives 60. dont you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:50 PM
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1 content is not love, and its taking away your chance at love. not to mention, dating a man that doesnt love you can be an awful, stressful, anxiety inducing and depressing experience. 2 dating a man whos content with you is one thing, but we are talking about dating a man whos content with you because he cant have better. why would you give your whole life and love to someone for whom youre a “better than nothing, at least shes better than my hand.” every person is worth more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:48 PM
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i disagree. me and my bf did not settle for each other. he was the one i wanted and i was the one he wanted
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:31 PM
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thats really sad tho
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:30 PM
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are you suggesting women in relationships should only please their man and it shouldn’t be mutual?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:29 PM
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if a man is just “content” with you, trust me, youre never going to be happy. dating a man can be amazing, but only when he’s actually into you, otherwise its hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:28 PM
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has it ever occurred to you that a self loving person may not want to be with someone whos “content” with them because they cant have better?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:24 PM
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no, someone else said this, at least read the username. also, that doesnt even say all men are awful. whats the point of your comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:20 PM
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im not, im also attracted to women myself
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:03 PM
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exactly, people attracted to men have a bigger access to sex than anyone else, because men tend to have a bigger need of sex on average. it makes no sense to compare and it makes no sense to complain, since you dont want to sleep with men too. okay, then stop putting women on a pedestal and higher your standards, i think its a good idea and thats what i suggest to men in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:02 PM
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its a whole different argument than the ones redpill carries, but you could argue that in a post.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 02:57 PM
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i never said other men are awful, are you hallucinating?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 02:54 PM
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i dont want you to turn a switch and become gay, i want you to realize that women have sex easily because youre referring to straight women, who have sex with men, with whom its easy to have sex with. you wouldnt want to have sex with men, so its stupid to complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 02:53 PM
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i didnt suggest you to be gay. i suggested that its stupid to complain straight women have it easier than straight men when theyre sleeping with a different demographic. its easy to sleep with men, you just arent willing to do it, and its fine, but dont complain because others are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 01:43 PM
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women can have sex with men virtually whenever they want. but men can have sex with men virtually whenever they want as well, so its not about being a woman, its about wanting sex with men, who usually have low standards for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 12:15 PM
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yes, women who have dated older men’s experiences and literally what those men say here on reddit themselves. also we’re not fucking stupid, if you only date women in their 20s at 40s its fucking obvious. im convinced some of you are under the impression you were the only person to ever be born with a brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 12:04 PM
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i have, men in my circle are decent people
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 11:26 AM
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the point is that it is wrong because in most cases the man is dating younger because he wants a younger piece of meat to fuck thats also easier to mold to his whims, but there can be exceptions where the two people who just happen to have been born several years apart actually love each other and have a good relationship. those exceptions are never the men who consistently date younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 11:24 AM
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not the win you thought it was. im not projecting, unfortunately, i dont date older men, but they just love hitting on me, and they often already have a young gf i feel extremely sorry for. and i dont think its an original experience only i have
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 11:20 AM
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somehow theyre also rarely, if ever, loyal to their ~daughters~ partners. more often than not he just sees her as a piece of meat and shes too inexperienced to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:56 AM
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i disagree. its fine to hit on someone at the coffee shop or at parks or whatever, as long as you do it respectfully and dont act pushy if they arent interested. i find it inappropriate to hit on someone whos working though. obviously you gotta have common sense. if you work/go to school with a woman and you start talking often, she clearly feels at ease with you, she looks/is eager to spend more time with you and you think you might realistically have a shot its totally fine to ask her out. jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 06:20 PM
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maybe single women are studying and working instead of fucking around, and doing so maybe they meet men who are likeminded.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 06:03 PM
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i have a better question: how can we, as a society, help men care more about meaningful social bonds and about how other men feel rather than superficial things like pussy and porn - i.e. their sexual urges? youre way more evolved than that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 04:46 PM
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just think about it with the roles reversed, so perhaps its easier. men for some reason, always seem so appalled that if theyre ugly most women wont be attracted to them, but they’re not attracted to ugly women either. so: theres this woman, you dont find her hot but you dont find her ugly either. she has rizz, so it may work. but take a woman you find really ugly, would you become interested in her because she has rizz?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 04:42 PM
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if i were you id personally pick option 1 i wouldnt date neither no
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:27 PM
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turns out you totally dont have to settle though. its just that most women dont care about their partner’s looks or have different standards or tastes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 06:31 PM
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personally, i was scared. the market is so inflated right now with all ugly to mid guys dating hot women, and i was scared id have to settle for someone i wasnt into as well
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 05:47 PM
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why do you believe thats what women want? do you have a source?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:55 PM
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how old were you when you took TRP? you had never seen/known of a rich man dating a much younger and hotter woman? i don’t know..i can’t recall how young i was when i found out but i feel like ive known it forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:30 PM
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wasnt that (as in dating someone whos actually into you) intuitive though?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:25 PM
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but none of that is men’s prerogative. people happen to have trauma and disorders, not just men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 08:18 PM
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can you elaborate more on why you think men are more affected by it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 08:16 PM
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does he own a painting depicting an older version of him?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 04:07 PM
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unfathomable painful to look at has me giggling
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:35 PM
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dont they obviously look better when theyre younger rather than later on like everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:05 PM
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are you implying men never have a prime?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 12:08 PM
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i dont believe oppressed people have a right to be morally bankrupt but i do think having morals is a privilege. those who can’t afford it, though, are people whose circumstances have stripped them of safety, stability, and choice — people for whom survival becomes the only moral framework that makes sense. so definitely not the case of the average woman cheating on her husband. its not my business or anyone else’s what others do in the bedroom; non-monogamy in any of its shapes is fine, as long…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 10:48 AM
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yeah the part about cucking her husband was weird. are we supposed to think thats cool or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 10:22 AM
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i find you funny
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 09:04 AM
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you either think most women have a terrible personality or you dont. its stupid to say it out of spite
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 09:01 AM
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then just dont perform? say fuck it and spend on stuff that matters to you. and were you to catch a woman’s attention, shed be more compatible to you this way. but thats not the goal, the goal is to do what you want with your life instead of trying to appeal to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 07:41 AM
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ill say this holding your hand: i know youhave the best intentions, but youre actually just misled. the notions you believe to be facts are prejudices that are holding you back from looking at things rationally. and youre enraged about it, and nothing like being enraged stops rational reasoning. “The irony and lack of self-awareness to go "you really suck at putting yourself in other people's shoes" only to then go on a self-indulgent diatribe about how the good-looking man you fucked only wante…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 01:10 PM
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if your only reason to do anything in life is the hope to get sex, you have a bigger issue than lack of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 03:10 AM
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you really suck at putting yourself in other people’s shoes. ive never lived it in first person, but i have friends who have, and its usually like: “i met this guy, he treats me really well and is super nice, i think i really like him. we keep seeing each other and theres a connection so we sleep together. oh! hes suddenly become so cold! why is he treating me differently? i really care about him now, weve known each other for a while and weve shared experiences so it really hurts to find out he…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 02:48 AM
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not really, it doesnt make sense to play “who has it worse” but if you really insist, she is actually right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 10:37 PM
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aside from being “nice” which everyone is valued upon, why would you rather be valued on something that does not depend on you and will also inevitably quickly depreciate over time - like attractiveness - instead of your accomplishments, your choices and the life you build for yourself? furthermore, people tend to invest more of their time on what theyre valued most, since we are social animals; so on one hand you have a woman who spends all her time and money trying to look good - shaving, make…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 09:47 PM
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i wouldnt know, im european. however, whether you live here or in the usa or anywhere else, it heavily depends on your age: the older you are, the more likely other people in your age bracket have children. also, outside of reddit, many men wouldnt view dating a hot single mom with a good personality and good qualities as settling. she may be a widow, or she may be way hotter than him, they may even actually fall in love. again, it depends on a lot of factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 08:15 PM
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obviously women and men are still valued by the vast majority of people on different things. rarely if ever men care about what job a woman does/how much she earns; women are still valued more about how attractive/kind/supportive they are and much less about the things they accomplish in life, like degrees and jobs. and althought it may seem like a good thing to be in that position, it really isnt. anyway, whether she’ll find an “8 man”, whatever that is, mostly depends on how hot she is and if …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 04:34 PM
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i mean, there are surely people who think like this, but why would you even want be friends with such judgemental people? good people exist, and im sorry your experience leads you to believe they dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 04:45 PM
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if people know without you telling them its a warning sign you might be acting a lil too weird
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 02:22 PM
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thats not true? my man has a friend whos a virgin (or two? im not sure, and this shows how relevant it is) and a brother who also is. theyre not looked down upon in the slightest. not by him nor by the rest of his group.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 02:21 PM
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i dont mind how men dress. be clean, dont stink and dont be obscene and you can wear anything you want. so yes to chest, arms, legs, belly but no to genitals. i wouldnt consider it cheating if my partner went naked to a nude beach i consider all of my partner’s complaints valid, i care about how he feels way more than i care about whats “objectively” fair. we both go out of our way to make sure the other one feels safe, comfortable and heard. we usually are on the same wavelength on things thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 01:18 PM
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istg it does actually feel already too obvious. but once.. oh, once i actually exaggerated. night in with a group drinking and chatting, i was cold, so i got a blanked, but instead of putting it just on myself, i also put it partially on the guy i had a crush on (i previously had even the guts to sit next to him). then i put my hand beside him for him to take if he wanted to. like someone else said, plausible deniability. but i still genuinely felt so slutty in that moment, and so embarrassed. a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 09:43 PM
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the women you grew up among viewed themselves/their gender as superior? i do understand it has been distorted and radicalized, especially in usa, and thats a huge shame, because we owe so so much to true feminism. in europe the situation is not the same, there are of course some ignorant people who use the term improperly and some women who resort to hating on men out of negative past experiences - similarly to how online incels do, actually. but its a minority, and its often people with lower e…
/r/RedPillWomen19/10/25 08:52 PM
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my point is exactly that feminism is not antithetical to rp or trad life (again, freedom of choice), so it does not require any defense. its beyond me why, when speaking about feminism it wouldnt be allowed to define and clarify the term youre using. it feels like the only thing we can say here is “yeah feminist women are so wrong and weird and its impossible to talk with them”. also, i just want to point out that “all feminists are bad” sounds really similar to “all men are bad”.
/r/RedPillWomen19/10/25 08:28 PM
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im perplexed, feminism was the topic brought up by op, and i was just clearing up that its not about hating men. other people also referenced freedom of choice. but youre the mod, you decide. i dont think the no true scotsman fallacy is relevant here though.
/r/RedPillWomen19/10/25 07:32 PM
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femminism actually is about equality - not meaning men and women are identical, but meaning theres not one thats better or more worthy than the other and no one should be considered less than based on their gender. so the “feminists” you talked about are actually not feminists at all, they in fact keep playing into the patriarchy by believing men to be all bad and believing women to be either good or pick me/brainwashed/stupid. and, like i was saying, it is about choice. were there never feminis…
/r/RedPillWomen19/10/25 03:58 PM
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yeah me too, because feminism is also about you being able to choose the life and relationship you really want. so why would they disagree with you making use of that choice?
/r/RedPillWomen19/10/25 10:09 AM
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no i act as if youre advocating preying on 11 year olds. get a grip
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 02:58 PM
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thank you. now, since you know what you’re talking about, please illustrate where on the study it says the percentage of young men who are single are such against their will and not because they prefer to be for whichever reason, including but not limited to engaging in casual sex. on a side note, did you not happen to notice the striking percentage of older women who are alone? its pretty much the same as the percentage of single young men so why are you considering just one of these two datas?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 02:09 PM
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youre just pulling claims out of your ass, great argument to you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 01:41 PM
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“Another problem is that the modern western world has basically outlawed 90% of young men's dating pool. Women desire older men (3-7 years older than them), this is a problem for men 18-22 because it's illegal for them to reciprocate interest in the women most likely to be interested in them.” are you really complaining the law prevents adults from dating 11 year olds? you’re cooked
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 01:39 PM
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my peers are not struggling tho
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 01:36 PM
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again, its not ugly men, its ugly people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 12:05 PM
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i didnt say women are brainless and are attracted to people despite them being unattractive. you have to take care of yourself and work on yourself and doll yourself up while putting up a pleasant personality like everyone else, try to have something going on for you for which people can like you. you dont like people who dont put in effort either, no one does.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 01:58 AM
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people arent attracted to traits, theyre attracted to another human as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 11:52 PM
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grew up female, i do know how much we are judged based on beauty very well and how those standards are totally not realistic. however we were talking about ugly people, not ugly men and pretty women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 07:17 PM
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only if youre not the sharpest tool in the shed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 07:10 PM
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if anything its going to be harder for a woman seeing how tied to her beauty her value is according to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 07:09 PM
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i really hope not :(
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 07:02 PM
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but like, do you genuinely love her and would prefer her to anyone else in the world no matter how hot and amazing?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 07:01 PM
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how are “the ones who made it” just normal people in real life and not internet radicalized subniches? you see the reality of how things are outside, not online. so you think its impossible for a ugly man or woman to find someone whos genuinely attracted to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 06:58 PM
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exactly. also who is super attractive to me may not be to you or someone else. my friends do not find my boyfriend attractive but hes genuinely the hottest men ever for me, and the same goes for me towards their bfs or dates. i rarely find even kinda cute a guy a friend finds hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 06:54 PM
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but thats obvious. of course you want someone youre at least decently attracted to + certain moral and character qualities. who in the right mind reads “i want a man/woman who’s kind” and understands“i want a man/woman i find ugly and who’s kind”?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 06:50 PM
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except for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 06:47 PM
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how would it be survivorship bias? however, we were talking about being single, not physical attraction. but lets talk about it. i dont personally know whether really ugly people are actually attracted to each other - although ive always wondered - but if you were right and it was impossible to become attracted to someone deeply unattractive then… whats even the point of discussing it? all we could say if that was true was “well it fucking sucks to be ugly so you have to settle with someone whos…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 06:33 PM
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some people like to be liked by everyone and the idea to be “unforgettable” for the ego boost. you should definitely move on if the person youre into is not interested
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 06:21 PM
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you know, i always wondered that! did ugly people dating each other actually choose each other or did they just settle? do they actually think their partner is the most beautiful and amazing in the world? and if so, is their love somehow less than those who are attractive and got the chance to actually pick each other because they were not the first choice, but the only? what do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 06:18 PM
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premise: im not sure where you’re getting this data and i would like the source if you have it, however, for the sake of argument lets take that data as good. thats what im saying; men who are incapable of dating are not just that ugly (1), they also lack ambition and motivation (2) to make plans or work towards elevating their status, are socially incapable (3) so also do not have any meaningful friendships, have awful personalities and morals (4), bad hygiene and manners (5) and if that wasnt …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 06:14 PM
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but it is true. most unattractive and low status men still have relationships, if they have a good personality and are socially capable (for the record, the ones you meet when you log off and walk around, not the ones you meet online).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 05:58 PM
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dont many men think that way too tho
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:02 PM
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its the opposite. what do fuck buddies LACK that prevent them to be chosen as husbands? perhaps its easier if i put it this way: a woman chooses a man for a ONS -> she wants to fuck him one (1) time, perhaps shes attracted, perhaps mostly because she wants a distraction or to feel desired. she definitely doesnt want to only have sex with him nor to have it forever. a woman chooses a man as a husband -> she wants to fuck ONLY HIM for THE REST OF HER LIFE. thats way more fucks than 1 and way more …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:55 PM
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im not sure who you’re talking about, theres no man in the whole world that, if i wanted a relationship and he didnt, id even start having sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:48 PM
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exactly what would happen, because op’s kind of reasoning stems from seeing men as people and women as bangmaids commodities.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:05 PM
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you forgot the part about chaining women up so you can sell and buy them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:02 PM
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because women are not gold stars for good boy behavior but are… just other people? its like saying society owes you friends for paying taxes and having a job. it seems like you want to live in the truman show
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 04:22 PM
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from your dating track record it seems itd benefit you to work on your vetting, im pretty sure there are great sources about it on this sub. other than that, i imagine its hard given the social context you talked about, but do what you can to up your chances in person; keep working on yourself physically while developing confidence and self esteem - it impacts a lot of the way you carry yourself which impacts the way man view you and the rate at which they notice you. work on your femininity all…
/r/RedPillWomen14/08/25 03:32 PM
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i feel like most older men who consistently (keyword; im not talking about people who just happened to fell in love once with a younger woman and otherwise date their age) go after younger women do not care about “talking points” or “intellectual compatibility” because someone looking for that vets for women similar to him, not for young/attractive as the top characteristics in his partners. this may sound disgusting and it is to me as well, but theyre seeing younger women as hotter pieces of me…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 02:41 PM
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thats totally a size fetish thing tho
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 02:35 PM
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to not commit to what?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:08 AM
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bro youre the only one talking about your feelings, op brought some points.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 10:25 AM
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then why dont you suggest her opening the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 08:32 PM
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i only know 1 woman whos not like this
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:21 PM
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i do personally care too, but the super vast majority of women i know dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 12:51 PM
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not true, youve just been looking at the wrong people. i, for example, dont like when my partner brings me an expensive bouquet. i like flowers, but i dont like him spending so many money for something thats supposed to be free and will die in a couple of days. but i love when he takes a trip on a mountain and brings me back some pretty flowers or a pretty rock he found. it feels so much more special. id also love if he grew flowers for me (like buying the seeds and watering them until it blooms…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 12:49 PM
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i thought most women didnt care
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 12:24 PM
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im in my early twenties smartass.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 12:12 PM
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and thats why many men go after young women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 11:40 AM
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so now, correct me if im wrong, you love her, trust her and are sexually attracted to her but you still see other women in a distrustful and negative way? or is it just distrustful but not necessarily negative?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 11:39 AM
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what do you mean with that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 11:33 AM
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i imagined a violent scenario like that about men who molested me/followed me home sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 11:30 AM
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dating a younger woman feels like she does not have experience or knowledge about what love is, standards for a relationship and the ability to vet and not to be manipulated. while an “older” (if we can call “older” 26+) woman usually wants an actual connection, a meaningful relationship and wont fawn over you like a girl at her first crush (because you’re not her first crush). literally, duh. this was so obvious from the texts you showed: - a 19 year old who “doesnt even know what love is” fawn…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 11:25 AM
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i wonder how you look at yourself in the mirror knowing youre doing various things which if your partner did to you youd be crushed. or you wouldnt be hurt? do you just not love her, do you think different rules for you apply or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 11:17 AM
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if when you started off you didnt love her, didnt trust her and didnt have the hots for her, whyd you continue to pursue that relationship? was there something that made you feel she was “right for you” or “supposed to be your wife” despite not feeling that way? not trying to attack you, im just genuinely curious why you made that choice despite the way you felt. (and im happy for you it ended up well btw)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 10:58 AM
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why would you downplay your n count?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 10:54 AM
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yeah, fuckboys are obvious. i get the vibe just by seeing one in person
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 10:51 AM
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the fact you equal who you are to the body says a lot to the kind of person you are and the kind of relationships you have. a person is their values, their personality, their choices, their memories, etc., not the vessel they inhabit. if that was removed from them, it can challenge the love you feel for that person, or change the way you love them. if their body changes, only lust will be challenged. if you identify a person with their body, love for the body is lust. the fact you dont think wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 03:40 PM
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youre welcome <3
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 01:58 PM
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youre being disingenuous by making false equivalences. you can’t lose your genes, you can, however lose your beauty (aging, accidents, illness) and remain the same person. conclusion: its better to be loved for who you are, the choices you made, the personality you built, what makes you actually you and will never be taken away from you. it also motivates you to work on yourself on all levels so it directly benefits your life, surely way mote than just being appreciated for a beauty which only p…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 01:25 PM
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beside the fact you have completely twisted view, like i anticipated; do you realize or not the genes you inherited do not depend on you in the slightest. its like being judged for the money you inherited.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 12:26 PM
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and ive never seen an ugly man that had a healthy body and good grooming habits
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 12:25 PM
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or im not
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 12:13 PM
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whatever, then *who got lucky and inherited good appearance from their parents. this better?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:20 PM
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he sees it as “women just need to exist and be a decent person” but like, thats the ones who got lucky and had great genes, just like men who got lucky and were born rich. and the other women though? what can they do to be desirable and appreciated? is it fair that men’s traits have to be earned and women’s dont? why cant we, too, be evaluated basing on the person we are and not the genes we inherited? but they only notice the women theyre attracted to, and every other women doesnt exist to them…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:16 PM
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well said
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:13 PM
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in my personal opinion, it wouldnt necessarily be cringe or unfeminine but itd be really weird to expect him to pay for the date you asked him to go on with you. he may still insist to pay and itd be very elegant of him, but you should expect to pay or to go 50/50. also, in that specific scenario you made, i dont think your odds with that man would be optimal.
/r/RedPillWomen11/08/25 05:27 PM
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“just because shes difficult for you doesnt mean shes difficult for everybody”. i get what you mean but im not sure thats right. mentally stable women either like you or dont, so its either easy or difficult depending on the woman, and impossible/you feel like youre forcing her because you are and she doesnt like you. thats how im wired, if i like you, its hard and i may change my mind while vetting. if i dont like you, its not hard, its impossible. “we have to be sure before anything even happe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:13 PM
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is eugenics thinking stupid people should not procreate?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 03:39 PM
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thats true and i think it has a part, but im also sure about what i said. and your last sentence is relevant i believe, as most men want that. if she hits on you how do you know she actually wants you and does not just hit on anyone? the impression the average man gets is that shes “easy”. while if shes reserved and you go hit on her and she lets you court her, it feels to most men as if theyre special, the only one who could manage to get that specific girl who only let them court her. the impr…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 03:37 PM
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and thats precious. talk to your peers, spread the idea that its ok for a woman to fuck around, to be sexual like a man is, and speak up when you see something thats not fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:59 PM
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most men need to pursue you in order to value you. unfortunately whats given easily and freely is taken for granted. that, of course, varies depending on the type of man. i asked this to my man time ago, and he said if i was the one who approached him we would obviously still be together, but he probably wouldnt have taken me as seriously in the beginning, wouldnt have fallen so fast, would have been a bit less smitten. and hes a sweet sweet soul, most men are not my man. the general impression …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:56 PM
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went way too well for some specimen
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:50 PM
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other men do though. perhaps you should start advocating against shaming women’s sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:47 PM
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its fair to have preferences. then dont ask out the passive ones. go for women who are proactive, or better, let them go for you if they will.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:42 PM
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yall shame the ones who do tho
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:40 PM
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sounds like a toxic relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:33 PM
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what? not pursuing men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:31 PM
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but who said women arent going to do much to maintain a relationship with someone theyre in love with? thats false. of course theyll express interest but towards who they like, and most (not all!) wont pursue them but let the man pursue. Edit: spelling
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:15 PM
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i feel i am kind of male minded and i understand to a certain degree the way men lust over women, the way theyre attracted to our bodies, the way they enjoy and use porn. if i was a man i, too, would like to fuck every somewhat hot girl. and thats why id never be okay with my man watching porn or fantasizing over other women. its normalized in our culture but its everything except normal. i refuse to be the sexual object to satisfy the urges, so its either you and me loving each other, connectin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 04:29 PM
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chad is a mythical entity thats everything and nothing at the same time, depends on the context and on the meaning you want to give it in the moment to support your argument online
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 01:30 PM
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youre hysterical. i never talked about hate, nor do i hate men. i even have one at home! the amount of people lacking reading comprehension on social media is astounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:49 PM
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maybe because you keep contradicting yourself? make your mind up
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:14 AM
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i was talking about sex because YOU said men should not go on dates with women before having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 10:27 PM
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“lead on for 2-weeks” and its just getting to know someone before doing the most intimate thing you can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 10:24 PM
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“These women offer you absolutely nothing compared to what you're giving them” if this was true youd stop bitching about women and just stop dating them. but thats not, is it? you need a woman, way more than the average woman needs a man, so it appears in fact they offer you more than you give them. btw, as long as youll be desperate for something youll never be able to set some standards for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 10:20 PM
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bro wtf, stop writing fanfictions here
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:19 PM
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i never said its not real, i said its something a tiny toxic fraction of the population does. these two dont seem like an average couple to me. but how did you find out she didnt sleep with him to manipulate him and not because she didnt love him anymore and was in love with her side piece?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:23 PM
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and thats the dangerous rapey narrative yall are pushing. “shes not saying no because she does not want to have sex, shes just doing it to spite me even if she doesnt admit it”. also, if they dont admit it, how would you know? mindreading powers?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:20 PM
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that can also happen, sure — but like, how often does that happen? have you heard of many women that while being turned on try to restrain themselves to punish or manipulate their partner? i agree that manipulating people is bad, whatever means you use to do so, but the vast majority of times women are said to “withhold sex” they actually just dont want to have sex and are not forcing themselves to be used for the man’s pleasure. when this is the norm and withholding maliciously is extremely rar…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:15 PM
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the point is.. how many people do that? is it common among women or most just have sex when they want it and dont when they dont want it and incels just interpret it as withholding sex because they need it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:05 PM
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yeah but thats different than someone just not giving me their money or just not having sex with me because - the audacity! - they dont want to
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:03 PM
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i agree. and elon musk is withholding his money from me, i feel so.. what were the words?.. oh yes, blackmailed, teased and bullied. why is he punishing me by withholding something i desire? its not fair to use this mechanism of domination and control against me!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 02:17 PM
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well, the fact that him being an abuser is a universal issue is a given, dont you think? a woman may not care for real love, but even if shes after money to the very least she’d still rather not be abused. so shed be settling for a rich man whos an abuser instead of looking for a decent man whos also rich. but, the same woman whos just after money, with a not abusive man thats rich but sleeps with other women, would not be settling because she got what she wanted and most importantly, she does n…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 02:02 PM
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exactly, dating someone like andrew tate is big time settling. (not familiar with chris brown despite him beating rihanna but i bet hes not a great catch either). settling for a mediocre man, who’s abusive, has issues with the law or whatever (havent really been following his story but specifics are superfluous here), who holds demeaning views of women (so also of the person hes dating), whos incapable of loyalty, and on top of that, hes also unattractive. he’s really funny and good at talking t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:16 PM
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what? do i think women reject attractive guys? whats the relevance with settling? an appropriate question would be “do you think many women settle with a man that does not make them happy or have important qualities required for a partner or treat them right? and do you think they settle because of a variety of reasons which include, but are not limited to, not having enough self esteem, not being able to stay alone, being shit at vetting, thinking every man suck to some degree so theyll never m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:59 PM
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even if that was true, why would whos given more advice even matter, it just means theyre doing too little atm
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:53 PM
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oh right i forgot, its written on reddit so it must be true
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:50 PM
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It’s incredible you’re missing this, but the purpose of advice is to correct someone’s behavior — that is, to tell them to do something they are not currently doing. for example, women are told not to settle because they usually tend to do so. this little misconception on your part invalidates the whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 11:57 AM
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i mean, being good in bed, funny, kind, chill and decent looking, may get some female friends to choose you as a fwb. line of people waiting? no. theres no real life scenario where this ever occurs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 01:18 PM
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who’s “he”? i don’t understand what youre trying to say exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 12:46 PM
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you watching some really dramatic tv shows
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 02:43 PM
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tell me where i said “only”.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 11:25 AM
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you dont deserve love because of your accomplishments. you deserve love like anyone else does, so you don’t. you deserve to be respected and appreciated, but to be loved? that can just come or not come. and you can be sad about it, and talk about your feelings, but you cant stomp your feet and say youre being denied something thats rightfully yours because you earned it. well, you can, but people will rightfully laugh at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 11:24 AM
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but its like… the complete and total opposite. women really often grow an attraction over time with personality influencing feelings and even perception of beauty, while men don’t, they either find you fuckable or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:00 AM
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should people get anything they truly want just because they asked nicely?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 06:56 AM
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are you producing a tv series about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 06:52 AM
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perhaps youre not getting kicked hard enough
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 06:47 AM
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i don’t know what to tell you, you can only control yourself, not the rest of the world. most people learn this by the end of their teenage years. ill sign your petition for a perfect world where everyone is happy but other than that i can only advise you to take matters in your own hands to be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 10:55 AM
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for me social validation started when i started accepting (or validating or loving or valuing, or whatever word we wanna use here, but its basically the whole package) myself. and even now, its far from costant, sometimes its social invalidation instead. and im conventionally attractive and live in the right place, so many people may have it harder than i do. and many people may have it harder than you, reader, do. but your self esteem cant depend on other people validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:38 AM
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what you’re describing is lust, not love
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:30 AM
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while the fact that sex is way more accessible for women is true, and that could contribute with being on average less obsessed with sex, the rest of what you said is misleading. women are not men who get sex, they just dont obsess over sex the way men do. for example, was i to break up with my s/o, i would be ok not having sex for the rest of my life unless i find someone else i fall in love with. i would sometimes think “oh itd be nice” but thats all, it wouldnt impact at all my quality of lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:29 AM
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where do you get this data from?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:12 AM
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you see thats why men and women dont see eye to eye on this. men equate relationship = sex, women dont. most women dont struggle with the lack of sex, but with the lack of love. and with that, platonic relationships can help a lot. if sex is your issue with being single, its actually good that you are single and you should a. stop obsessing over sex for the mere act itself or, if you cant/wont work on yourself, b. pay for prostitution where its legal. a relationship wouldnt have been for you any…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:19 PM
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youre amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:13 PM
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its not that you’re not good enough. you are good enough, even if no one is choosing you. you gotta love and value yourself independently. a relationship may or may not come, but you can only control your own actions and thoughts, so do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:54 PM
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marry your bar then. youre not fit for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:49 PM
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if they act like theyre doing you a favor they probably do not like you, dont ask for favors and go date someone who is interested if it suits you more
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:16 AM
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from this appears you know a lot of super self observant , introspective and self critical men and im really happy for you because in my experience most people have this issue, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:09 AM
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bro you should be talking to a therapist not strangers online
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 06:06 PM
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if sleeping with other people actually was no big deal he would let you do it as well.
/r/RedPillWomen26/07/25 01:33 PM
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my brother i never talked about hedonism, what you talked about is actually a dissertation about what happens when you seek relationships from a place of lacking and need.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 10:53 AM
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but thats a good thing. people shouldnt pair up just because they cant handle loneliness, its good to be happy on your own and want someone who makes your life even better
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 12:19 AM
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why did you specify you arent paying anyone and not that youre not forcing them? lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 01:06 PM
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if something costs 5€ it costs 5€, if you have 2€ you cannot buy it. doesnt seem subjective to me. how money doesnt make happiness and billionaires have so much they dont value it is a different topic, if you cant afford something you cant afford it period, and its different from what partner your looks or whatever can “afford” you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:39 PM
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what do you want from him? i assume to just give you those advices in a kinder and more gentle way. if i were you id verbally appreciate and thank him EXPLICITLY for how helpful hes being and all the advices hes giving you - because hes actually right about a lot of stuff and its lovely of him to put him effort to help you out - and then “but you know im sensitive and youre really important to me, so the way i perceive you treating me really matters a lot to me, i really wish you could talk to m…
/r/RedPillWomen26/05/25 08:36 PM
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too bad money is objective and beauty is for a large part subjective
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:58 PM
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its totally fine for you to have that preference, just dont date a woman who wants to be a SAHM
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:55 PM
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europe is big and varies greatly, so it really depends. we surely hit on men significantly less than american women do. here its unusual, but still happens to hot/average but charming guys. (it doesnt work. i dont personally advise it) i doubt standards can be lower than american women’s as us dating pool seems like a nightmare you either settle or choose not to participate in. but, like the men are healthier on average, women are as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:53 PM
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you mean complaining they cant find a man? although i find it rare irl that women aim for men who are more attractive than them, it happens yes but it happens more frequently the opposite. at least in my circles where there are more attractive women than not. women who complain men are trash are not vetting the men they date/sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:02 PM
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filtered for 5’10, which is the lower side of average for a man in my age group, at least here. being obese is super rare too. im from europe, i understand we have a way better dating pool here
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:53 PM
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as long as you dont complain about it totally fine by me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:45 PM
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i cant imagine any person whod ever be in an arrangement like that, unless they were forced to or payed incredibly well. it sounds too unbelievable. thats why its funny when paired with criticizing women who want a tall partner lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 01:32 PM
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itd be unreasonable if men cared about how tall women are or how much they make. most men dont, or even prefer women who make less than them or are the shortest height possible; so as much as it may seem greedy and unnecessary to anyone else its perfectly reasonable for example for a super short girl to want to date super tall men if shes attracted to them. she wont probably have any issues finding a match, therefore its even realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 01:28 PM
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why is it an unreasonable standards? plenty of guys are willing to be providers. a woman who wants that is just not a good match for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 01:24 PM
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that website is straight up gaslighting, if i select a man my own age range, not being obese, not married and having any income (20s can be for studying as well) i get 3/5 aspiring cat lady lmao. should young healthy women date old obese and married dudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 01:21 PM
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i mean, i wouldnt be bothered if you only wanted to date a woman like that. id only be bothered if you complained you cant find one like that that wants to be with you and acted entitled about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 01:16 PM
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“age gap, harem” im sorry that keeps making me giggle
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 01:13 PM
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yeah why would you date or even marry someone youre not into just because you dont want to be alone? no one deserves to be someone’s backup plan without even knowing it. i dont respect those people at all, theyre the ones that as soon as someone better comes along they leave, or the ones that hit on/try to cheat with hot people they meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 11:02 AM
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well, he believes that and he may not ever change his mind. are you fine with him continuing to believe it? are you fine with him telling that to your daughter? teaching her her sexuality is wrong but her future bf’s is normal? idk perhaps you could try bringing him to debates or making him read some material but its going to be a long and difficult road
/r/RedPillWomen26/05/25 10:21 AM
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idk, perhaps to marry your rapist
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 10:18 AM
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same, my partner is the absolute best to me yet im his first girlfriend; so no one that fit his standards before me thought he was the best. should he have settled for someone he wasnt into instead of waiting for a girl hes head over heels over?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 10:11 AM
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but is it though? isnt it in the right of any human being deciding not to settle? deciding they either get the perfect partner for them or stay single? it may not be realistic, but its not unreasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 10:08 AM
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yeah like id be worried hed teach your kids to hold men and women to these different sexual standards as well
/r/RedPillWomen26/05/25 12:26 AM
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no the fact a lot of lesbians are biphobic is the only true thing op said. at least online
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 12:17 AM
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so youve been suffering from dryness since you started dating your s/o? has anything beside that changed in your life (medications, stress, relationships with friends and family, work, etc.) ? is it just dryness and are you mentally turned on when you have sex or you cant get turned on at all?
/r/RedPillWomen25/05/25 06:15 PM
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how long have you been having these issues
/r/RedPillWomen25/05/25 04:18 PM
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is it a new thing or has it always been like this for you? are you in a relationship?
/r/RedPillWomen25/05/25 03:04 PM
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even if what you said was true, so 25-30 men cant find women their age group because those women date older, then why dont the men date older as well then?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 04:20 AM
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“For most men, the kinds of women who are most capable of building and maintaining connections over time, they're doing that. They're in relationships and they are likely to stay there until their partners either die or screw up.” thats true for everyone thats over 25-30 and single, both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 12:51 AM
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true, my mother had my brother at 44 without even trying to get pregnant. he has always been perfectly healthy. besides that, op, do you know how to cook? if not, i advise you to learn to and learn to love it. thats a huge pro to most people especially when paired with your good looks
/r/RedPillWomen25/05/25 12:27 AM
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thats just not true 😂 people dont cheat that often, its just what cheaters tend to believe
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 06:38 PM
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no i never said there arent people sleeping around casually, like you do. but its not the vast majority. it may be the vast majority or even your whole circles but people always tend to surround themselves with people like them and then assume everyone must act and think like they do and you make no exception. the one that “gargled on you yesterday while being in a relationship” is a girl who may be shy but surely was never big on morality. you and your group were fucking almost every woman you …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 06:36 PM
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i dont know what you want me to tell you, people like sex and in this day and age most like casual sex, what a discovery! some of these women you talk about were cheating while others were single and just wanted to fuck you like you wanted to fuck them - nothing wrong with that, anyone can do as they please with their own body when theyre not hurting anyone else. doesnt prove every woman cheats or lacks morality just because you get hit on, and only a fraction of the times by women in relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 01:47 AM
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sounds lovely but thats not what those verses say
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:24 PM
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the point is literally flying over your head. ive seen men act awful just to try and get into my panties but ive also known (few, but there are) amazing men. i can realize people are not all so great without thinking there arent any exceptions, one of them being my bf. ive also never been out there being promiscuous or cheating, and im not a unicorn. so you’re under a wrong impression. the girls who aren’t cheating aren’t at the clubs you attend or if they are, theyre not talking with you. the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:22 PM
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you clearly did not read or did not understand what you read. one thing is if you say “its fair, women are inferior and should be treated as such” thats an awful opinion but at least is coherent with what i wrote, but your reply just isnt, its just not true the only requirement is not to do certain things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 03:51 PM
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"Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord." (Ephesians 5:22) "But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband" (1 Corinthians 11:3) "so train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands" (Titus 2:4-5) "the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:51 PM
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i know you’re replying to op’s question that’s exactly why i dont understand why youd believe in the red pill because of women’s hypocrisy while aknowledging its not ahout women but about humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:50 PM
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thats an abuse of the term though, having a preference does not make you shallow. everyone wants to date someone they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:24 PM
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i dont think so, because a bigger size isnt better for every woman. ive actually always wished for smaller ones than my partners had
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:18 PM
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with emotionally available i actually mean “will process its own emotions and concerns and bring them up maturely to me, when he has trouble doing so he’ll ask for my help figuring out how he feels instead of waiting for me to guess what he has or that he even has something” and also “will be mature enough to understand i will sometimes be misguided and make mistakes and help me see it calmly instead of escalating the situation and starting an argument until i am lucid enough to solve things. un…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:15 PM
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shallow and picky does not go hand in hand in my opinion. i define shallow as someone who is unable to see in a partner something thats not superficial, who doesnt really create connections with people and therefore treats them as exchangeable, someone unable to go deep. the issue isnt being picky, everyone should be picky imho
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:09 PM
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why are you so against oral with a woman lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:05 PM
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they always act like someone is stopping them from having preferences, but we are not, we’re just saying you’re hypocritical or a bad person or an idiot. but you are allowed to be all that stuff just like im allowed to think you are!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:04 PM
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the issue with this is that women keep complaining theyre judged about their sexual past and men are not all while they keep not judging men about their sexual past, and not even judging men who judge women about their sexual past. as a virgin/low bc woman you should not date a man who wouldnt date you if you had a different sexual past, not ignore that just because its not an issue of yours. nothing will ever change until women’s behavior about this will collectively change.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 01:58 PM
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the point is not ALL girls are like that (and not even JUST girls). so there in fact are cases of no mismatch between what a girl says and what she actually does, you may just be dating/meeting the wrong ones. didnt you say thatd stop making you believe in the red pill? or do you just believe all women are hypocritical? if youre sure its a human issue why saying its just women, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 01:47 PM
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men in relationships hit on me since i was 15 but i dont think all men are pigs? isnt it possible good girls just arent in your field of vision because why would they be? of course your fboy friends only date fgirls. birds of a feather flock together.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 01:19 PM
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are you actively looking for girls who believe in consistency? a lot of people are hypocritical , its a human issue more than a women’s one i believe. its one of my biggest pet peeves ever
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 01:14 PM
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its naive to think the bible is fair with both genders while its unbalanced, stricter and more punitive towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 12:39 PM
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this. i dont feel like i need men in my life, but i WANT them. i like having that energy and presence around, i like how it makes me feel, i like the way they are
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 12:35 PM
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all this while men are taught “dont hit women” and “dont use her for sex” and op still complains
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 12:33 PM
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i know very few guys who meet all of those “super easy” standards you mentioned. besides that, isnt it fair to want to be attracted to your partner? thats not comparable to demanding a victoria secret model. why are men so offended when women dont want to date someone they find hideous, when men are the first to want a girlfriend thats pretty? well, women dont even want him to be hot, they just want him to be attractive in their own eyes. and have you ever had a walk outside? you can see so many…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 12:26 PM
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yes and no. most men women complain about don’t actually use women, they just want to have sex and the woman hoped for more without there being the basis for it. and i believe the woman is in the wrong, having sex with someone without a connection wont make a connection magically appear and if you expected sex to turn a stranger into a lover youre just naive. but there are also men who lie to get sex, and those are the ones who use people and frankly suck. but youre wrong on sex being a “test” f…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 12:20 PM
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i really struggle with the way he always escalates arguments, either shuts up or talks only to say something bitchy, never apologizes and even when he does after hours of fighting its extremely poor like a two-three words apology. refuses to aknowledge evidence that contradicts what he said, in fact he straights up lies in order to avoid conflict - when saying “oh sorry i didnt mean to” has always eliminated any conflict with me, but this behavior from him makes me so mad and makes me lose all r…
/r/RedPillWomen23/05/25 03:53 AM
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can you suggest a safe place to?
/r/RedPillWomen22/05/25 10:45 PM
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i believe the only way to be genuinely happy in a relationship is to be okay with being alone if you never meet anyone whos right for you. its also true that the right one may not be as obvious for every woman, so ill add: figure out rationally whats really important for you in a partner (is it empathy? connection? willingness to try to better himself everyday? is it forgiveness? loyalty? being attractive in your eyes? all of the above? something else? something more?) and never settle about wha…
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/25 10:58 PM
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even if that was true, have you never been misguided? also, how can you not see he’s losing interest in her: even if he stopped, he wanted to check other girls out, was he enamoured with her like he probably used to, he would not want it, nor would he consider his sex life as something thats just his and not something to be shared with his woman. him considering sex something FOR HER is also a major alarm bell, just like him masturbating right after sex when she leaves the house, and preferring …
/r/RedPillWomen17/05/25 02:24 PM
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idk perhaps making sex more enjoyable for him? making herself more attractive in his eyes? if your man is not attracted to you anymore and sex has become a chore seems clearly like an issue on itself to me. probably the controlling behavior had a big part in causing it but i doubt just stopping will magicaly fix their problems and he will want her again without her specifically addressing the issue. her having had a bad behavior does not mean we should condemn her. she came here asking for help …
/r/RedPillWomen17/05/25 02:11 PM
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are you reading my comments? i did not say shes right, i repeat, shes clearly acting controlling and not doing anyone a favour. but backing off (despite being the first step) wont be enough to make their marriage go back to great.
/r/RedPillWomen17/05/25 01:59 PM
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again i agree sex off the table is not a good idea and is controlling, like the rest of OP behavior, but the real issue is more like a vicious circle than just OP being controlling. it is way more complicated than that and backing off alone wont be enough: it may make her SO feel better but wont help OP nor the marriage. they both ALSO need to do some serious work in order to reconnect emotionally and sexually, the sooner the better.
/r/RedPillWomen17/05/25 01:56 PM
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i agree with you, but it also really sounds like hes getting bored with her and would prefer getting with other girls online, if only he had the chance to. it doesnt feel like hes just after the “easy release without all the work”.
/r/RedPillWomen17/05/25 01:43 PM
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i already mentioned what i think she should implement but i’ll take the occasion to spell it out even more clearly. first step: figure out if the issue is that he’s not attractive to her and never will be - in that case if she wants to still be in the relationship despite that, your advice is a good one. … or figure out if the issue is that she’s just not enjoying sex right now. this seemed like the case from the context. second step (assuming it’s the second case): why is she not enjoying sex r…
/r/RedPillWomen06/02/25 01:27 PM
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but he wants her to actually want sex with him, not to fake wanting it. i’m really not sure lying about something so important is the right way for a happy honest and loving relationship. i know there are few things that would hurt my man like knowing i was just pretending to be turned on to do him a favor. i doubt a lot of men would say otherwise. and saying he won’t know doesn’t really make it different. unless she finds him impossible to be attracted to but still wants him to believe she’s ac…
/r/RedPillWomen05/02/25 06:30 PM
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i focused more on the aspect of her feeling pressured into sex because she feels it’s her duty to him instead of a mutually enjoyable activity they do because of what they feel for each other. and from what i understood that is the reason she doesn’t enjoy sex. which makes sense, especially since they’ve been through a rough period. i also remember her saying something like she used to enjoy the sex in the past or something similar. but if, like you are suggesting, there’s more to it, like an in…
/r/RedPillWomen05/02/25 06:23 PM
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i don’t think she should fake wanting him, in the long term it won’t help their connection and just make her build resentment towards him. she should learn to say no when she doesn’t feel like having sex. sex is not a chore and it’s not a favor or a duty you’re doing for your man, it’s something for the both of you to enjoy your connection. in this, he’s right to say he wants to feel wanted. when she do feel like having sex - try to actively put herself in the mood instead of passively waiting f…
/r/RedPillWomen04/02/25 09:47 PM
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being vague Is never a good sign, hes either not serious about you and buying time like that, or he doesn't trust you enough to be clear on the situation. you should talk to him about how this vagueness makes you feel and about your concerns, figure out why hes delying what you two already decides for a whole year, perhaps theres a valid reason. dont be accusing or confrontational, be worried and seek for his help in explaining things to you and reassuring you. if he were to keep making you feel…
/r/RedPillWomen20/01/25 05:16 PM
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Absolutely dont answer to his calls when you feel busy or overwhelmed, its Better to have a pleasant call later than a stressing One in the Moment. when you do that, in order not to make him feel ignored, send him a text, something like "Hey, im extremely busy at the Moment, but ill try to free myself as soon as possible, i cant wait to talk to you, i miss you so much! are you free in xx time?" that explains your situation and makes him feel appreciated, respected and missed at the same time, wh…
/r/RedPillWomen19/01/25 08:34 PM
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imho they should discuss in depth what "privileges" they both expect from each other at this stage, and see if Its fine for both of them. and then how theyll evolve in the next stage - if theyre both Open to One. OP needs to make sure if hes onboard with her expectations about a man.
/r/RedPillWomen19/01/25 06:34 PM
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thank you for replying, i Just wanted to Say off the top of my mind, that i dont think thats how "women act with you" but its Just how women you usually date act in general, i do not believe people have a set "effect" on others like a super Power that makes them all act the same way with them, so It must Just be your type of woman.
/r/RedPillWomen17/01/25 09:21 AM
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what i think youre getting wrong here Is generalizing. its nice to think like you do, but not every man - or even woman - Will see things the same way. and thats totally fine; some people May not care and others May care a lot about stuff like selectiveness in Who you sleep with and body counts. thats also true in your speech about how long a woman takes to sleep with you - It doesnt necessarily mean shes not into you, or unhealthy, She May Just be different from you or the women youre used to m…
/r/RedPillWomen23/12/24 04:27 PM
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most women youd call easy actually feel or think they feel a connection with the men theyre sleeping with straight away. so your point Is that its okay as long as the man feels a connection as well, and i agree on that, but its not something women can control or know for sure - unless good at reading people. solution: get to know each other Better so you solidify that connection, make It grow, and are sure It exists in the First Place.
/r/RedPillWomen18/12/24 09:43 AM
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while you can totally do It After already sleeping together, it Will make It harder and automatically rule out a portion of men Who Will not change their mind about you once theyve seen that youre Easy.
/r/RedPillWomen18/12/24 09:41 AM
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imo once or twice doesn't change much tho, i dont think how many times you do It Is that relevant, especially in a situation where hes Just After casual
/r/RedPillWomen14/12/24 11:02 AM
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sounds like a fwb situation where you didnt understand that It was a fwb situation. he was clearly not interested in something more to begin with - at least from what you told us in the post, you havent mentioned him talking about commitment or pursuing you seriously so im assuming he didnt do It. i also dont undertand why youd tell him you dont want to be seen as an Easy girl while sleeping with him, saying something like that Will absolutely do nothing in order to make you look like youre not …
/r/RedPillWomen14/12/24 11:01 AM
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among others, i use a shortened version of the nickname everyone uses for him, it sounds sweet and a Little bit childish. he loves it
/r/RedPillWomen08/12/24 02:52 AM
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why isnt emotionally detaching from him an option? you said he has a fiancé, you overthink all the time while hes out and you know hes not the One. you could finish your studies there and then find a job and move out to live on your own and find your husband.
/r/RedPillWomen08/12/24 02:25 AM
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never had any issue getting commitment, i think the secrets are a good understanding and empathy about how men work, not sleeping around, great vetting and being detached crom the out come (aka abundance mentality). what are your political views/the topics youre passionate about? what do you mean by being Independent? every adult has to be so im really confused when people self define as such. what type of men do you go for? how long Is It before you sleep with them? how long before you get atta…
/r/RedPillWomen05/12/24 07:52 AM
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youre not only choosing the wrong men (not marriage minded or qligned with your goals), youre also sticking around after they have shown theyre not that into you. a man has to be passionate about you at the beginning, head over heels even. learn to vet better and find someone that really likes you. also, Red pill Is a guide but It shouldnt substitute your personality, let the men you date get to know the real you, or theyll feel It.
/r/RedPillWomen17/11/24 06:51 PM
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but you have been stern and you may not be able to physically push him off as he’s likely stronger than you
/r/RedPillWomen22/10/24 12:51 PM
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it sounds like he did a lot of good for you and your life, and you should shower him in gratitude for that. i think gratitude is really important in a relationship- both gratitude (to life, to your god, to the universe, or what you feel comfortable referring to) for having found your partner and gratitude to your partner. that being said, it’s unfair for him to keep resenting you for the past. he chose to date you once and he chose to continue dating you every day for 2.5 years, you surely didn’…
/r/RedPillWomen22/10/24 11:04 AM
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this settlement can’t work out at all: you either take on traditional roles, so you take care of the house without working and he provides 100% for you; or you both pay for rent and expenses and share house chores. he can’t have it both ways.
/r/RedPillWomen20/10/24 09:16 AM
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my man’s friends love & respect him, and would never hit on me or even look at me that way. any true friend is like that. so i’m extremely chill with them and just engage like we were family, because i don’t feel sexualized at all and i’m not afraid to be. in fact i love spending time with them (together with my man obviously) because it feels really safe and like i’m only judged for my opinions and not how good i look. however, if both you and your man are comfortable like this, i don’t see why…
/r/RedPillWomen18/10/24 04:30 PM
2

the vast majority of men will see VS models and get slightly turned on, or at least be attracted by them. it’s normal, they’re super hot and if you’re attracted to women you can’t exactly help it. note that he loves you, but aesthetically wise most women can’t compete with VS models. so if the thought of your boyfriend feeling/thinking like this about other (probably hotter than you) women bothers you, don’t put him in that position just for you to feel bad about it later. if it doesn’t bother y…
/r/RedPillWomen18/10/24 04:26 PM
3

great post!! i’m generally great at being cutesy and childlike when it’s time to, but the childlike anger is the one thing that doesn’t come natural to me at all; when i was a child my parents were kind of abusive and i never got angry like that as i was always feeling in danger and my anger was meant as a protection - or at least an attempt at protection. i still feel anger the same way, despite my man being the most loving and amazing and gentle person when i’m mad i go full attack mode on him…
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/24 10:33 AM
3

i personally would not date someone who broke up so recently with their ex; i did once and it didn’t end well. but since you are already dating him and you like him so much… just see how it works out. worst that can happen is you get your heart broken and then you get over it. which can happen in any relationship really, it’s just a little more likely, but if you like him so much you’ll feel it’s worth the risk. but stop asking him if you’re a rebound, it’s completely useless: if you are, he may…
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/24 09:55 AM
1

this is so insightful and your self-improvement journey was admirable. i was particularly surprised of the wonders shrooms could do for your depression, were you taking about Psilocybin?
/r/RedPillWomen14/10/24 08:43 PM
3

really happy for you! how’d you cure the BPD symtoms though?
/r/RedPillWomen14/10/24 05:37 PM
3

it seems you’re already putting in a lot of effort, but off the top of my mind you could try writing him love letters (if he needs more emotions and sensibility) or you could try to cuddle up to him when you get the occasion to. like, let him wrap his body around yours and feel like he’s protecting you, or hang to his arm while you walk together. these are subtle ways but can feel really nice and shift the energy in a way that he may like and you may be comfortable with. it’d be surely more help…
/r/RedPillWomen05/10/24 08:09 PM
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i think the answer you’re looking for is that women don’t like it when you reek of desperation. a woman wants to be pursued by you because you like her, not because you want a girlfriend and are asking everyone out in hope someone will say yes. we can always feel that.
/r/RedPillWomen05/10/24 08:03 PM
1

yes yes yes no no
/r/RedPillWomen01/10/24 12:36 AM
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it depends on how you personally feel attraction. i’m one of those people who feel attraction over time opposed to straight away - i’ve never felt sexually attracted to any man, no matter how hot, upon meeting him. but, the attraction develops in 1-2 months tops and, despite not being sexually attracted i was aesthetically attracted since the beginning. there was never a time where i convinced myself to like someone i didn’t already like. the connection on the first time meeting has always been …
/r/RedPillWomen30/09/24 09:08 AM
2

this, try to fix the situation and be open to coming back together but if he’s not down for it, do NOT act like a girlfriend without being one.
/r/RedPillWomen28/09/24 09:35 AM
1

context clues: saying “i have a job that pays little and not a bright future ahead” and then “i want stability from a man” will be in most cases interpreted as “i want a man to take care of me financially because i can’t make enough on my own”. that’s why mentioning how little you make its kind of weird imo. things you like don’t have to be generic and obvious, but i guess it depends if you actually have passions or not. also the only time i’ve seen men worry about jobs is when the woman works t…
/r/RedPillWomen28/09/24 09:27 AM
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the only thing you can do in this situation is make clear to him how you really love him too much to lose him and that’s why, when you have reason to worry, you do. ask him to be careful with his life cause its precious, with time, knowing how it would break me if he got hurt, it made my man stop putting his life in danger.
/r/RedPillWomen27/09/24 02:57 PM
2

i didn’t criticize what she wanted, i suggested a better way to phrase it, a way men will read how she wanted them to receive it.
/r/RedPillWomen27/09/24 02:15 PM
1

not at all, it is explicitly stated.
/r/RedPillWomen27/09/24 02:14 PM
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it tells exactly the same things, but instead of saying “i will do this for you” which sounds like a trade: money for labour/sex, it says “i like doing this” which implies = i’ll do this for you if we’re together. it’s basic interpretation that most men won’t have an issue doing, and it feels more genuine. how can you say “this is who i am in relationship with you” when you don’t even know who he is since you’re putting an ad on dating apps? it looks like you’ve already decided what your relatio…
/r/RedPillWomen27/09/24 02:12 PM
1

as i said it depends on what you expect to get out of it.
/r/RedPillWomen27/09/24 02:06 PM
0

there are many things that are true, but not all of them need to be explicitly stated at all moments. also there is a significant difference between doing it for any relationship or doing it for any white man willing to take care financially of you. in one case you do it out of love and respect, in the other case you do it in exchange for money without needing there to also be love and respect. why would a man want to be in that position when he can be in a position where he’s also loved and res…
/r/RedPillWomen27/09/24 02:01 PM
2

would you do it for anyone willing to take care of you financially ? if yes, would you say that on the first date with someone? how would that make you look like?
/r/RedPillWomen27/09/24 01:53 PM
2

if a friend of mine came to me with this specific ad asking for my help i would suggest her something like: “im a 5’4 short woman who likes to do sport/attend the gym/run/whatever you do to keep in shape. im 30 and i’ve always been a very artsy and social person, in fact i love planning and carrying out dinner parties with family and friends, attending work & social events. i love cooking and taking care of the house, and family is one of the values i deem more important in my life.” i would the…
/r/RedPillWomen27/09/24 01:49 PM
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shouldn’t the transactional aspect be more subtle and not explicitly put? im afraid that this kind of ad would target more towards men looking for a sugar relationship and not encourage that much those looking for an actual LTR. of course it depends if the goal is just general stability or a LTR which provides stability. also most men would rather take care of a woman they think is willing to do all those things just for them, not for anyone willing to step up.
/r/RedPillWomen27/09/24 12:04 PM
1

okay, i understand. a fantasy as in something to fantasize about, acting it out does not make them stop being a fantasy (in fact many men get off on previous sexual encounters) as long as it still stimulates his imagination
/r/RedPillWomen25/09/24 02:55 PM
1

what confuses you?
/r/RedPillWomen25/09/24 02:36 PM
1

this makes no sense in response to what i was saying but ok. what kind of change would you make in yourself to stop predatory behaviors?
/r/RedPillWomen25/09/24 10:16 AM
3

totally! a man needs a fantasy, so you either give him that fantasy (and you’re off to a good start) or you accept he looks elsewhere. also try sending him explicit messages about what you want to do to him or what you want him to do to you, works like a charm. for the pictures look for boudoir poses and play around with transparency and light/shadow. have fun!
/r/RedPillWomen24/09/24 05:05 PM
1

narcissists and predators don’t make up the majority of population and aren’t really prone to examinations of conscience, so holding each other accountable actually works best in these cases.
/r/RedPillWomen24/09/24 04:28 PM
2

i admit its very weird that he forgets things so important about you, like the color of your eyes. unless he has some serious memory loss issues, a man in love does not forget this kind of stuff about his woman. i didn’t understand from your post what the break would be useful for. my advice is to be explicit with him on what you feel is missing from your relationship and be clear that those are non-negotiables for you to be happy and satisfied in this relationship. make him open up about the sa…
/r/RedPillWomen23/09/24 10:59 AM
6

not even just to a blue pilled man, theyre awful also to the women who end up being friends with them. but most of the time their behavior goes unnoticed or completely excused, just because they’re female. as a collective we should start looking for predatory signs in women like we do in men.
/r/RedPillWomen23/09/24 10:40 AM
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i’ve being doing this for years because i like to joke around with friends of any gender but i’m ultimately a good girl, and had no idea it was a tactic to be liked. i’ll be more careful doing it around men now
/r/RedPillWomen21/09/24 05:21 PM
1

well he’s your partner. you can trust him with your feelings, and you should. if i was you i’d just talk to him in a moment when we both are calm and have time and tell him something like how i was sad that he forgot our date because i was really looking forward to going out with him. qnd that it made me worry that he doesn’t care much about it since he forgot, is that the case or did something else happen? i would not frame this conversation as a discussion or as an argument, just talking about…
/r/RedPillWomen21/09/24 10:24 AM
1

i hear you, but i also provided a different solution than leaving. OP was also the first to mention divorce. anyway its my opinion that if something is dangerous to your (or your children’s) physical or mental health or it is making you extremely unhappy its fair to yourself to leave. do you not agree on this or do you think OP’s post is not the case?
/r/RedPillWomen18/09/24 06:32 PM
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you want to know why he does it despite everything you do for him? he does it because you let him. it doesn’t affect you doing things for him, nor you having sex with him or giving him bjs. you don’t leave him. so why would he stop? maybe he has always been as ass, and you just always downplayed it because you didn’t want to see it, or maybe not: most people won’t respect your boundaries if you don’t reinforce them. what should you do? you should leave him. unless you’re into his behavior, which…
/r/RedPillWomen17/09/24 04:48 PM
5

because you are choosing to be perceived as sexy by your husband. choosing is the key word here. someone seeing you on the street and cat calling you is seeing you as a mere sex object, something to only project their fantasies on without caring about your desires or if you even feel desire. while for your husband you are a sex subject, capable of desiring and being desired. that’s being sexy. its being capable of seducing someone you desire. it can also work between boyfriend and girlfriend or …
/r/RedPillWomen15/09/24 02:47 PM
3

those behaviors are people objectifying women, totally not okay and different from being sexy which absolutely doesn’t imply being objectified. quite the opposite.
/r/RedPillWomen15/09/24 02:35 PM
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when you turn someone on they are perceiving you as sexy/attractive though. when they perceive you as adorable it triggers the attachment motivational system, not the mating one.
/r/RedPillWomen15/09/24 02:22 PM
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ideally you want to be perceived as both, depending on the situation
/r/RedPillWomen15/09/24 01:05 PM
0

not talking much isn’t that much of a problem as long as you listen. consider that most people prefer to talk than to listen. get a new therapist you vibe with but the most important thing you can do for yourself is to build your self esteem.
/r/RedPillWomen14/09/24 09:51 AM
2

i do. and then we laugh together about it
/r/RedPillWomen12/09/24 03:18 PM
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‘cause men don’t work like that. a woman who fucks him well will always be just a woman who fucks him well. one of the women, most probably. a man will only act like you say they do if they’re in love with you, but fucking them wont make them fall in love, quite the opposite. then, if a man loves a woman, and she also fucks him well, that’s a great relationship. but he has to love her before that. locking him down with sex won’t work. i’ve never seen it work, anyway. maybe if the man is a virgin…
/r/TheRedPill10/09/24 03:31 PM
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i’ve never heard about any girl successfully convincing a man to date/marry her by having even good sex with him. thats actually the best way to NOT lock that man down.
/r/TheRedPill10/09/24 03:24 PM
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i thought it worked on no men, i’m astonished it works on betas. don’t women do that because it works with them since they (most of them anyway) get attached after sex and all that?
/r/TheRedPill10/09/24 03:22 PM
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how can they think they’ll lock men down with sex? does it ever work?
/r/TheRedPill10/09/24 02:19 PM
2

i think there’s a bit of misunderstanding here: i’m not saying that what you’re saying is wrong, at all. you are right, when it comes to women with a high BC. that was not the demographic i was talking about, though. the drawback in dating someone who fucks you straightaway is that they’re the type who fucks easily. they will probably also fuck other people they got the hots for easily while dating you. if you know that and are willing to put up with that it’s fine, but you shouldn’t be super su…
/r/TheRedPill10/09/24 01:58 PM
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you’re getting really emotional over this one. it’s relevant to point out and know that not all women will fuck anyone straight away, because the ones not doing it are the most serious and loyal ones. therefore, if you’re looking for a LTR, they are your best option and if you’re looking for casual sex, they are wasted time. knowing the difference is important. it wouldnt be that smart to date someone who usually fucks on first dates. what you said about them being ugly or non-sexual is totally …
/r/TheRedPill10/09/24 01:30 PM
10

some people just don’t do casual sex, how can it be so difficult to imagine?
/r/TheRedPill10/09/24 01:16 PM
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stop settling for people that aren’t what you are looking for. but you have to be ready to be alone in the case you won’t meet the person right for you, otherwise you’ll end up settling. and while you wait, keep bettering yourself in any way you deem important.
/r/RedPillWomen10/09/24 08:24 AM
0

i know it wasn’t what you meant, but that’s a logical doubt to have when presented a point of view like yours
/r/TheRedPill09/09/24 03:26 PM
1

a stupid question as the answer is already kind of obvious in your post but: you never loved her, right? she doesn’t sound like she’s missing the d but you, she probably always was really head over heels for you.
/r/TheRedPill09/09/24 11:04 AM
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if he left thinking he can do better, that’s the way he thinks. he’ll always be looking around for the better option until he finds it, not worth it to be the safe option keeping him company in the meantime.
/r/RedPillWomen09/09/24 10:51 AM
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no. any person (man or woman) should be head over heels about their partner. that’s what happens if you love someone, that’s what i have with my partner. otherwise you’re just wasting your time with casual sex disguised as a relationship. and you should compromise yes, but not on things that feel huge to you.
/r/RedPillWomen09/09/24 08:10 AM
0

so you imagine to just stop dating every girl you’ll date when she turns 25? are you leonardo di caprio?
/r/TheRedPill09/09/24 08:08 AM
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you should totally not get back with him, a man that makes you feel like that so strongly that you’re scared to date even a different man, is surely a man not worth the time. not all men are like that, there’s plenty of loving ones that’ll make you feel like the most beautiful woman alive, just because they’re in love with you. you should aim for that, and in the meanwhile, focus on yourself and on healing your perception of men.
/r/RedPillWomen09/09/24 07:50 AM
6

the advices on repairing your relationship with your father and finding a “very alpha” man are good, but you should also learn to lean into your femininity. notice how i didn’t say “become feminine”, you are already feminine, you’re just not leaning into it. think about the things you like about being a woman, spend time doing activities that make you feel a woman (dancing, art, yoga, or whatever works for you), and reflect on the benefits in letting go of control in favor of someone else’s taki…
/r/RedPillWomen09/09/24 07:45 AM
4

because men dating way younger are not looking for a committed relationship, they’re looking for “hot”
/r/RedPillWomen09/09/24 07:40 AM
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there’s a great difference between being blunt and direct and just blatantly arrogant and disrespectful. he’s the second one, at least that’s what it looks like from what you reported on him. not only that, he was saying that to convince you, so in a way, he was also being manipulative. you can see that when he says you won’t find anybody else taking care of you like that, that if you were 30 already you would accept, that you won’t get wet and have dry sex for the rest of your life (the languag…
/r/RedPillWomen08/09/24 01:56 PM
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there’s not a right answer for everyone on this. some people are willing to share when in love, some aren’t. i would personally never be okay with these terms with a man i love, while if i gave up on love and just saw it as a transactional relationship i’d be able to share. but i don’t know if i’d be happy, it is really unlikely i’ll put myself in that situation anyway. if something isn’t okay with you straight away it’ll probably never really will, you can at best get used to it. so your choice…
/r/RedPillWomen08/09/24 12:55 PM
5

basically what one time was courtship. reaching out, inviting out, expressing interest with words first. just subtly let him know, and when he offers you a hand, if you want to, follow, like a dance.
/r/RedPillWomen07/09/24 02:31 AM
6

i hate to be the bearer of bad news but if you feel the need to keep the situation under control, you’re likely not detached from the outcome. that’s not necessarily bad though. it makes total sense in your situation, as it’s rekindling an old relationship and not starting a new one. back to the point, you can give up control when you can trust the other party. unfortunately that for some people takes way more work than for others, as some have a harder time trusting. my piece of advice on this …
/r/RedPillWomen07/09/24 02:23 AM
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initiating an interaction can mean very little. it doesn’t really matter who initiates the single interaction. you should not pursue a man though, just let him understand that you’re interested. most men don’t like being pursued, and even the ones who say they do, usually actually don’t. by not pursuing of course i don’t mean to let him chase you while you act disinterested, it’s more about energy and behavior.
/r/RedPillWomen07/09/24 02:09 AM
2

again, sounds serious. this could be above what you can do, you should suggest him to look into therapy and talk with someone trained for these situations. and keep loving and supporting him.
/r/RedPillWomen07/09/24 12:46 AM
2

it sounds like there’s something serious going on with him, haven’t you asked him about it?
/r/RedPillWomen07/09/24 12:08 AM
4

i doubt copying femininity videos on youtube will actually be helpful. if you want to become more feminine you can’t fake it, you should connect with your own feminine side inside you. as masculine as you feel, everybody has a feminine side, you just have to connect to it and cultivate it. i suggest you try dance classes, yoga classes, spend time in nature, experiment with your looks, meditate also but not only on the sides of you you feel less comfortable bringing out and why, reflect on what y…
/r/RedPillWomen07/09/24 12:05 AM
4

he said he’s not looking for a relationship, and he means it. he’s probably still interested in having sex with you if you’re down for it. if that’s not what you want, drop the relationship or just be friends. do not count on him changing what he wants.
/r/RedPillWomen05/09/24 03:10 PM
3

don’t be defensive, that’s always a bad idea. acknowledge the way that must have made him feel, 2. show that you’re genuinely sorry for any inconvenience or stress he may have had, 3. provide a reassurance on the fact it won’t be likely to happen again as you’ve “learnt your lesson”/will be careful. remember that the point isn’t who’s right and who’s wrong but that he’s your partner and you didn’t want to cause him harm as you’re a team. i think this can be safely applied to any time you do some…
/r/RedPillWomen04/09/24 11:16 PM
1

it’s clear that you’ve had really bad experiences with women that led you to this point. and if you never want a serious relationship again and will be happy like that, you should totally pursue it. but if this part of you saying “isn’t there more i’m missing?” is loud and convincing and it makes you curious, then maybe, if you’d like to, it’s worth finding out. there is more behind the shallow relationships most people have, some people find more. perhaps it’s the ones that look for it or they’…
/r/TheRedPill04/09/24 08:39 PM
1

of course a perfect person can’t be perfect like a machine would, i thought it was obvious that as living human beings, we’re bound to have flaws. the best possible choice isn’t the same. it implies stone cold logic and confrontation between possible options available to you. it implies settling for the most tolerable person who’s up for tolerating you. its the opposite of what i said.
/r/RedPillWomen04/09/24 08:33 PM
2

the point is you can find someone “perfect” for you. because for somebody to be perfect for you, they don’t have to be perfect, they just have to have all the qualities you value the most and their “cons” have to not feel much like “cons” to you, or be so insignificant when compared to who they are as a person, just to you, not objectively. and that happens when somebody (actually) falls in love and cultivates that feeling. and unless you find that, you should not date someone, i’d rather be alo…
/r/RedPillWomen04/09/24 07:25 PM
1

that result is of course under the influence of the fact that most people that test the paternity do it because they have reason to suspect they are not the father, while most loyal couples don’t have the urge to test the paternity of the child therefore don’t do it. but it’s nonetheless interesting that of those who do the test, a percentage that high find they’re not the father.
/r/RedPillWomen04/09/24 06:56 PM
0

not wanting to settle for less than perfect (perfect as perfect for you) isn’t necessarily bad. i don’t think you should settle in dating, it’s better to be alone than to have a relationship with someone you don’t absolutely adore. no one deserves to stay with someone who’s with them just because they didn’t find better. you either love someone or you shouldn’t be dating them.
/r/RedPillWomen04/09/24 06:46 PM
1

i’m an extremely curious person, i like reading theories and points of view and finding out the way other people work, which is often different from how i work
/r/RedPillWomen04/09/24 06:03 PM
1

and why don’t you want to marry?
/r/TheRedPill04/09/24 02:52 PM
12

the part about dropping your male friends… just treat them like a men would and not flirt. which is easy if you’re actually just friends with them.
/r/RedPillWomen04/09/24 02:21 PM
1

always because it was better being alone as the person wasn’t someone i’d align with anymore
/r/RedPillWomen03/09/24 11:31 PM
2

reading this made me realize exactly the feeling hypergamy must be. i have not once felt that push (is it a push?) in my entire life. i’ve always struggled to comprehend other women jumping ship, it has always been hard for me to wrap my mind about what was happening in theirs. i always had trouble leaving a relationship, i never felt like filling a place left empty with somebody else and i always took that “you can do better” literally and in a motivational way. and after reading the post and t…
/r/RedPillWomen03/09/24 04:23 PM
5

i find sometimes shock can be misleading though, as you can’t unfortunately assume everybody is smart enough to read between lines, understand what’s an hyperbole, and use logic and common sense. it’s best to mean exactly what you say and say exactly what you mean, unless you’re talking with someone you know for sure will understand what you meant.
/r/RedPillWomen03/09/24 04:17 PM
1

not all women are unable to compartmentalize sex, just most
/r/RedPillWomen03/09/24 04:13 PM
3

this seems to be true for most men and women, but not for all. i would like to know if the author of the theory acknowledges exceptions (or if he believes they don’t exist and every woman and man just acts out this script) and how he would explain them. is it high iq? is it attraction to more than one gender that changes the rules? is it real love? does this theory imply that absolutely no couple at all can have a happy and loving relationship without the woman jumping ship the second she finds …
/r/RedPillWomen03/09/24 04:11 PM
2

only if she doesn’t respect herself
/r/TheRedPill03/09/24 03:51 PM
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i’d like to add, give the girl the time to be into you before dirty talking. doing it straight away could gross her out when otherwise she may have been down to. it should still be done tastefully and when it’s the right time and place (basically: read the room). itll also make her feel like you’re doing it because you’re attracted to her instead of you being desperate for sex (its crucial that you don’t make this impression). however this could be really hard for inexperienced guys.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/24 03:50 PM
2

monkey branching and hypergamy don’t seem something relative to women as much as they are to human nature; i have, in my experience, always seen and heard of these behaviors by both men and women
/r/RedPillWomen03/09/24 12:23 PM
2

as you said, people find time for those they are interested in. and not only that, most men would have asked you out themselves. usually with men this rule goes: if you’re wondering whether he likes you, he doesn’t. whenever it’s confusing, it’s actually a clear no. cut the losses and move on
/r/RedPillWomen02/09/24 07:34 AM
0

not every girl gives free passes though
/r/TheRedPill01/09/24 07:34 PM
1

take 6 months MINIMUM to yourself where you don’t engage romantically with other men (and if you’re part of the vast majority of women who get attached after sex, not even sexually. even if not, i don’t generally suggest much of it.) use that time to pour all the love you once poured onto him onto yourself. better yourself physically and psychologically, read, learn the most you can, expand your friendships. don’t feel rushed to move on, it’ll happen naturally when it’s time. just focus on yours…
/r/RedPillWomen01/09/24 11:13 AM
1

you should believe your intuition, this man is probably not right for you, you can read between the lines that your subconscious already feels this even if your conscious mind doesn’t want to accept it yet.
/r/RedPillWomen01/09/24 10:57 AM
1

i think it’s very tacky and unsexy to tattoo a full name. i’d suggest you to rather get his initial in a sexy spot, like bikini area or butt. but even better: get something that symbolizes your love or him. an animal that reminds you of him, a symbol, a place, a sentence, surely there’s something relevant and special about your relationship that’d look amazing on your body.
/r/RedPillWomen01/09/24 10:55 AM
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this feels really fishy. however, i support your philosophy or trying everything first before giving up so here’s my piece of advice. - men don’t tend to respond well to nagging, however they love to take care of a woman (one they love, at least). you should avoid scolding him and instead start triggering the parts of him that could really answer to your needs, instead of the ones that respond with aggression and dismissiveness. when he does eventually call, make him feel how much you missed him…
/r/RedPillWomen01/09/24 10:49 AM
2

there are ways to make your man feel sure about you, even if you spend time or dance in front of other men. if your loyalty and you being unobtainable to anyone who isn’t him, is out of question, there’s nothing he will prohibit you from doing. jealousy and possessiveness can be talked about and eased. that assuming he’s loyal.
/r/RedPillWomen01/09/24 10:37 AM
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