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if women are capable of running society like feminists claim then this is a non issue.
/r/MensRights31/05/25 08:22 PM
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agreed would love a good source for that claim
/r/MensRights31/05/25 08:21 PM
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fair
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 09:23 PM
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agreed, and it’s why you will never see me calling myself red pill even if we agree on some things. i hate that red pill is viewed in alignment with conservative bc it rlly has nothing to do with principles let alone religious values bc the ppl who practice those beliefs would never step foot in a church they should be more honest and just say that they are mostly lashing out against feminism in response to perceived gender inequities- but none of their tenants stem from the bible or prioritise …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:57 PM
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definitely part of it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:48 PM
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i don’t necessarily disagree but there has to be a more efficient way to communicate this, cause the thought of waiting to “hit your peak” is just not rlly useful to the way ppl experience life. doesn’t help cope whatsoever with current pains and stressors, and to some extent you have to be a bit privileged and living the life you already want to live to value the future so much that you accept your current circumstances
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:44 PM
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yep, it’s similar to the nietszchian concept of master vs slave morality. the only function of many of social discourse abt appropriate behaviour is to make rules for average ppl to engage with other average ppl. there should never be any assumption that non average ppl will ever be beholden to said rules, as part of their quality is a conscious decision to do whatever the hell they want anyway bc they have the means to manifest their desires
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:40 PM
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as the saying goes, takes one to know one lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:36 PM
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i don’t understand what part of that needed to be responded to with a “counter”… lol? the woman’s perspective and reason for being with him is not even relevant to him having a preference for similar experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:35 PM
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i imagine the men that marry virgins are in environments (like churches for example) where they’re expected to be virgins themselves, so this change in reality wouldn’t universally affect everyone. for myself, i am decently attractive and had no problem getting casual sex in my late teens, but i wasn’t greatly interested in it partly bc of the environment i was in and seeing all the drama that came with it in my friends’ lives. i valued having a relationship first if i was going to have sex, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:33 PM
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yeah i’m not sure what they meant by that either
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:09 PM
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she should buy me a car? not necessary cause she has one, but it’s a very low to the ground thing and i’m a tall guy so if i’m gonna drive i’d pref have one i’m comfortable in
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:09 PM
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funnily enough, i got the same msg from my wife but she phrased it as “feeling feminine being driven and feeling masculine doing the driving”. okay, even if that were the case- strange thing to harp on when i get around perfectly well with public transport and only get in the car with her when she offers but that’s just the way it is with women, broadly speaking. they are far more deconstructivist of feminine expectations and reinforcing of masculine expectations and you just have to accept the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:11 PM
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that’s what research is to these ppl, confirming biases by treating the few ppl they know as representative of broader collectives. same logic trains used to justify racism and other forms of prejudice
/r/MensRights08/05/25 11:34 PM
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unfortunately so
/r/MensRights08/05/25 09:39 PM
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pure evil. the judge should be should be imprisoned himself
/r/MensRights08/05/25 07:44 PM
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good stuff
/r/MensRights08/05/25 06:09 AM
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will fall to the culture like the rest
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/25 10:27 PM
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there is absolutely nothing rational abt being afraid of your bf being dl as if it’s a common occurrence. all this is propagate biphobia and normalise the homophobia in women that you want to pretend isn’t real for obvious reasons (you’re homophobic)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:20 PM
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needs to be talked abt so much more how many terms have been debased by feminists. language has power and they understand that well
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/25 06:56 PM
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terrible analogy. a woman never has to worry abt the race of her child for obvious reasons, so from a man’s side if your child is a different race then it implies some form of infidelity outside the case of unlikely exceptions as a woman, your partner not being straight does not imply literally anything abt them or your relationship. if you never ask, you could have a completely “normal” relationship with a bi man happily for your entire life without it ever presenting any sort of issues for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:10 PM
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thank you for this reply. it’s insane how many ppl think gay = guaranteed to have stds, straight = no stds, nevermind how little most men are educated on sex ed in general. ppl assume so many inappropriate things abt gay men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:04 PM
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yep. not to mention that to use a feminist lens you have to accept the narrative that gendered oppression was always one sided men abusing women for basically all of human history until recent times, so writing the wrongs of history could never be abt making things equal as much as it is receiving women their time in the sun so to be pro man is to contribute to perceived historical inequalities bc men ought to experience whatever disadvantages they experience if it means taking away perceived po…
/r/MensRights07/05/25 04:10 PM
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well stated as per usual from this user. there are so many reasons ppl get into relationships and how they succeed, i get that OP is young but that reductive lens just speaks to a lack of experience dealing with other people
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:25 AM
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most women who primarily use feminism before any other lens are absolutely pretend progressives bc the aesthetics fits their narratives and serves their goals, but their thoughts and actions are entirely and super regressive
/r/MensRights07/05/25 12:46 AM

“A society that claims to support “mental health advocacy” stills turns its back on the ugly, violent side of mental illness”- cannot be understated. there’s a lot to say abt it so i don’t want to go on a tangent, but relating to what you said at least, it needs to be talked abt more how many of these things are the reasons men are seen as undesirable i think viewing it as a matter of fault is unhealthy and harmful, but it still is the case. i think that generally speaking- a regular guy is much…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:27 PM

depends on the city, but i definitely felt that way in DC! just more comfortable than other cities i’ve lived in, and it felt very easy to go to like a rock show or a house party or whatever to meet new ppl and immediately click and become friends- moved away and don’t go back enough to keep in the circle so suddenly i’m in need of friends again 🤷🏻‍♀️ i grew up traveling a lot and continued to travel a lot as an adult bc my career field, and the world is so nuanced that i don’t get why ppl (not …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:01 PM

this is what ppl who larp online instead of actually dating think. doesn’t reflect reality whatsoever. the reasons why one person might rent you could very well be the reason someone else adores you. the reasons one person might consider you horrible may very well be the reasons tens of other ppl think you’re amazing. perspective is everything. you could be alone bc you moved to a new city and the things they got you success in the past don’t work in your new environment, or bc you’re actively p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:48 PM

mostly agreed, but i think it’s a bit strange to define mediocre as all the ppl making exclusively poor choices. just takes away from the nuance of average ppl- who can and will make a series of terrible and amazing choices throughout their lives, with a general bias towards good choices that are self serving. whether or not you are mediocre is entirely relative to the collectives you belong to, just changing your environment by itself can have a huge impact on your desirability
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:34 PM

this isn’t entirely honest and you know that. horrible ppl end up with horrible ppl- whether or not you end up alone in life has nothing to do with if you’re horrible, saying things like this just demonises single ppl for very literally no reason when that doesn’t even reflect reality
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:26 PM
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yes, and easier to have a man murdered at the hands of “vigilante justice” when the woman is white and the man is a minority.
/r/MensRights01/05/25 02:39 PM
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completely agreed. similar to the double standard where when men are responsible for something we say men are responsible; when women are responsible for something we say society is responsible using sexism in lieu of misandry when it’s warranted just euphemises and allows bad actors to continue using language that removes accountability for specific harms. it’s important to proclaim the narrative that misandry is real- you’re not getting nowhere just saying sexism when women are still going to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/25 02:06 PM

true. i’ve commented the same thing like 3 times today at least; it’s frustrating cause i feel like the ppl who come here airing out their grievances are legitimately distracting others from exploring some really important discussion topics… then i’m like? who cares? disappointment cannot exist without expectation to feed it- and some things/ppl simply aren’t worth having expectations over. gotta care less and not get caught up in admittedly trivial ego contests
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:23 PM
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feminists love benevolent sexism. they welcome infantilising as long as it means they get what they want
/r/MensRights30/04/25 08:59 PM
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i don’t disagree- it’s insufferable how many disclaimers and how much self flagellation you have to do in this sub to some ppl to engage with your points with intellectual honesty, just for them to call you a misogynist anyway bc you disagree or are unconvinced by their arguments. it’s just a lazy way of hand waving away rhetoric you aren’t fit to combat if you think it’s wrong, so idky bother responding to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:17 PM
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never been the case and never will be the case. both genders generally extend empathy to women and conditionally extend it to men to be frank i don’t know why men do it bc they do it with women outside of their personal lives like strangers and ppl they will never see again so i can’t imagine it’s purely motivated by lust the way a lot of ppl think, but for women their strong female in-group bias motivates generally extending empathy to other women and tbh i don’t ever see a world where society …
/r/MensRights30/04/25 07:44 PM
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there is no such thing as natural charm or confidence. these are learned traits reinforced by consistent and intentional efforts and practice, anyone who views it as natural just is not perceiving the learning process and is pretty ignorant imo as a man, i wouldn’t mind talking to a woman who took those classes. if anything i’d probably be more interested in talking to a woman who took those classes than man one who didn’t for the same reasons i’d prefer a woman who grew up with a father to one …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:35 PM
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i appreciate that women generally care abt including everyone more than guys tend to- so at work when it’s women running a meeting i don’t feel like i have to “compete” to be heard if i have something to say, i’m invited to speak as everyone is
/r/MensRights30/04/25 06:22 PM
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for what it’s worth, the negative reactions to that second story doesn’t mean you should stop helping women in need. do the right thing because you believe it should be done, not for reward
/r/MensRights30/04/25 06:21 PM
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i’m inclined to agree which is why i always specify america when i’m generalising, and even then that varies heavily by region and if you’re in a town vs city etc. like you can live in a blue city where there’s a planned parenthood next to a high school, and not have to drive very far before being in a town where literally no one thinks abortion should be a right feminism is definitely prevalent in the west, but in the global south i think some cultures are extremely sexist in a way that harms w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:37 PM
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it would appear that i am illiterate
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:48 PM
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small thing! that’s is a huge overreaction and conversation worth if it happens regularly, what a strange thing to say to your husband
/r/MensRights30/04/25 04:46 PM
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been there. i used to feel guilty for having a crush on my friend thinking she would be disgusted by it or think that i only befriended her to try getting more- i rlly shut it down and cause i grew up in a religious household i would pray that i stopped having feelings for her. found out years later after moving to another country that she also thought i was cute and would be said yes if i asked her out, but i wasn’t self-aware enough at the time to realise it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:29 PM
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am i stupid or are the first and last link not referring to the same study
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:00 PM
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good post
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:49 PM
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to your edit, ppl will always take general criticism like this as personal or respond like the point of them is to blame. understand that this is the same thing feminists have been dealing with for decades when constantly being told “not all men” in response to claims they’ve made and misogyny to the point where “not all men” is a meme you see all the time online in saying spaces/conversations for what it’s worth, a lot of the observations and arguments you’re making are in line with things femi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:30 PM

there’s a lot going on here that makes it difficult to talk abt. it is true that feeling like a “downgrade” is an insecurity that you owe to yourself to seek therapy for and deal with bc you’re not going to have a healthy relationship with a woman if she needs to validate your unheard feelings… that being said, there’s a separate conversation here abt not wanting to date someone for their sexual history that is generally fair it just stops being fair when THAT’s the reason you give for it. you t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:54 PM
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i don’t think any amount of conversations you could have with women you know would be more than a reflection of you and types of ppl you engage with, which would not necessarily reflect a survey on american women’s general opinions on bodies. again i don’t deny you or anyone you’re referring to believes that, i’m certain MANY do, but many isn’t most. that just doesn’t reflect the realities of how most women express their preferences on male bodies, and i think it’s a bit dishonest and unhealthy …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:21 PM
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thank you for sharing fearlesssea, and i believe you in your preference but i was responding with a generalisation relevant to the generalisation op made. i don’t deny that you like this, but i also don’t think this is what most women mean by dad bod, and agree with op that most women also prefer marvel bod chris pratt
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:43 PM
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i’m so pissed i just wrote a detailed reply to this and the app crashed to update itself :/ anyway, my point was never that looking for traits outside of physical attraction is opportunistic, but that opportunistic intent is opportunistic- and from the perspective of a man there are a lot of reasons why it can and will be difficult to decipher opportunistic behaviour from women, but one good way of protecting yourself from that is to make sure that she is physically attracted to you bc that’s le…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:32 PM
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most women admittedly are not even picturing the same thing that men are thinking of when they use the term “dad bod”, so even if it applies to the woman you’re replying to, it wouldn’t be a general standard. the average woman’s idea of a dad bod is an objectively fit guy who just isn’t cutting and isn’t dehydrating himself to exaggerate muscle definition, but the muscle under their “fluff” doesn’t grow on accident and takes years of dedicated training to achieve those builds
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:14 AM
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also truuuuuuueeeeeeeeeeee abt the sheet hogging holy heck, their tiny bodies have an insatiable appetite for warmth! constantly trying to steal your body heat and covers like heat vampires… ladies, stop putting your cold feet on your husbands!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:11 AM
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i am not anywhere near blackpill, but i’m starting to recognise more how strangely dishonest ppl are abt how much physical attraction and sexual compatibility matters to relationships. i don’t know how the narrative spread that women don’t care abt looks or are less shallow than men, but imo being willing to tolerate and date guys you aren’t interested in physically bc they provide some other form of value in return doesn’t make you not shallow, it makes you calculated and opportunistic in ways …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:10 AM
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cook
/r/MensRights27/04/25 12:22 AM
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there’s a strange use of language here. being in a state of suffering does not a victim make; ppl should be able to acknowledge the abject negatives of reality without other ppl interpreting it as an accusation of being a victimiser. tl;dr - you not being responsible for someone’s suffering doesn’t diminish their suffering
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:13 PM
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inclined to agree
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/25 12:00 AM
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it’s almost strange how disgusted straight women are by bi men in particular, even if they are fine with gay dudes. most women will not consider dating a bi dude even if he has no experience being w men, it’s just an outright red flag to them
/r/MensRights24/04/25 06:49 PM

i mean “no means no” for my generation at least means after being rejected initially to stop continuing to pressure bc even if she agrees later if it’s arguably under any form of duress then you are committing rape which is not something ppl want to do for obvious reasons go fuck yourself. not even “remotely common” is you doing exactly what i said happens and diminishing men’s experiences for no reason other than your preconceptions can’t even allow to fathom the idea of something that women bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:18 PM

completely agreed esp w the last paragraph, it just is what it is and i wouldn’t want to go in the past. i just wish this “progressive” culture would actually hold itself accountable for regressive standards like a lot of women are told and broadly believe that a man not accepting their rejection for sex is spousal rape. on the reverse? men aren’t allowed to reject women w/out fear of some form of retaliation from their intimate partners- accusing them of being gay, assuming infidelity, or just …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:06 PM

i believe men and women tend to be closer in personality than ppl acknowledge, and long standing social narratives have hurt our ability to understand each other women straight up are not nearly as empathetic as they like to present themselves as. if you understand them as you understand yourself you find ppl simply doing what is in their best interest regardless of other ppl involved, which should be expected. the idea that women are generally more compassionate or emotionally intelligent than …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:53 PM
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agreed. be vocal and be vigilant
/r/MensRights24/04/25 02:57 AM
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i will never understand why ppl reply just to tell you things you’ve already said. what did you think i meant by “not to be a grammar stickler”? i made it more than clear that i wasn’t critiquing it, just pointing out and laughing at it cause it stands out to me. “might be an ocd thing lol”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 10:19 AM
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yes this is true in general- when ppl interact w strangers we often don’t view the individual and instead view the collectives they are apart of and assume they are representative of said collectives. this naturally leads to a lot of misplaced anger and assumptions that are reinforced by confirmed biases unrelated, but it rlly bothers me when ppl start sentences w conjunctions. not to be a grammar stickler when i don’t even have auto caps on- it just mentally tilts me to see “but” or “and” start…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:42 AM
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yeah np, that’s what i assumed but didn’t want to comment on it in case i was overthinking lol. i grew up in haitian ghettos and bounced around multiple countries as a kid, so to be completely honest i wouldn’t even say i’ve fully engaged w the african american experience until my teens and now as an adult living in baltimore and learning the community here there’s a lot to say abt it, but i am undoubtedly in favour of reparations for african americans households that were disaffected by governm…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:25 PM
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there’s nothing ironic abt it- bc if you had underlying qualities that make you dateable then it ought to reflect in your dating experience the same way. the analogy holds and it’s interesting how that’s the only part you replied to, nevermind the fact that i stated numerous times that it’s a universal mindset. can dating not be compared to ANY other aspect of life, like from your perspective it’s so unique that you won’t acknowledge the overlaps that successful ppl acknowledge? also, i think yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:13 PM
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i think you misunderstood me, i wasn’t comparing my dad to african americans. i was using him as an example of someone who stood out compared to his OWN family. from a poor area of an already poor country and he did what he needed to do, which was just leave the environment if he couldn’t thrive in it. that’s the point i was making which is a universal truth- why i mentioned in my other comment that it bothers me that (at least online) so many incels tend to be young and i can tell when they’re …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:05 PM
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been there sis. and what’s unfortunate abt black culture is seeing so many well meaning ppl making no attempts to move out of ghettos bc they adopted the opposite self defeating mindsets. i would argue that mindset is the number one thing keeping ppl in bad lives, esp if you’re privileged enough to live in america where you have so much power to manifest your will or take advantage of opportunities my father immigrated here from haiti and enlisted in the army as his means of lifting my family ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:28 PM
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i knew i clicked w you 😎 funnily enough, i made the exact same point in my reply. it’s always the same and you see it everywhere if you’re a well-rounded individual who cares abt their experiences instead of just “letting life happen” to them. you can complain all you want if you need to vent bc shit happens sometimes still, what are you doing abt it? none of this is unique to dating whatsoever, and i imagine the reasons someone is unsuccessful in dating probably overlap w their lack of successe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:20 PM
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no one can define something that is unique to each person. what can be said though, is that having no experience will literally always be worse than a little experience. i don’t know abt you in particular, but i see from a lot of black pill ppl that many of them are too young to not view the world outside of the school paradigm- that’s an example of not trying. simply put, the adult world and the world of teenagers are not the same, and believing you won’t have any success as an adult bc you had…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:15 PM
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that’s true but ppl are dishonest and absolutely do moralise romantic failure.. another thing to add tho, i get the sense that the ppl that complain abt it the most literally don’t try enough to even know their patina to be successful. they assume they’re unattractive cause love hasn’t fallen into their laps, but they’ve never actively sought it out enough to know if ppl find them attractive or not
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:55 PM
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sacrifice yourself for their benefit is what it means.
/r/MensRights22/04/25 03:21 AM
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it is the same for men. without thinking abt it too deeply, occam’s razor tells me it’s just a jealousy thing? idk if it’s a great example but you see it w the way ppl talk abt celebrities- the things men say under the comments of like megan fox for posting she’s dating mgk. even though they’re both celebrities and of high status, they’re just commenting she shouldn’t be with him bc they think he’s ugly seemingly personally offended at the thought of an attractive woman being w a man who’s “lowe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 01:38 AM
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it’s always the case w topics like this. you ask the same questions abt misogyny to men and it’s like okay we are having this conversation bc it needs to happen for a reason- flip the convo to be abt misandry and suddenly you can’t have the conversation without also laying a detailed roadmap to solve literally all of the political and socioeconomic issues in the world
/r/MensRights22/04/25 12:15 AM
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people always project who they are onto others in relationships. whenever someone is paranoid abt cheating like that, they’re usually the ones that plan to
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:07 PM
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it’s a bit immature, but some ppl are immature. esp at the start of a relationship where you don’t completely know your partner’s insecurities or what makes them uncomfortable, better to take the sage round and assume they wouldn’t be comfortable with it unless they’ve said so still, doesn’t need to be a “rule” unless both partners want to proudly be immature together lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:56 PM
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no
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:15 PM
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thank you! i’m not a super huge reddit person so i get a bit confused navigating, i saw a notif you replied to one of my comments the other day but i couldn’t figure out how to get back to it to reply lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 11:37 PM
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i’m really struggling to understand the question here… i wish these terms were defined lol, literally what do you mean by things like “stacy jr” ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 11:35 PM
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mostly agreed, you just have to know tired and what you want from other ppl. ppl HATE being uncomfortable and thinking can be uncomfortable, some ppl literally avoid thinking abt their goals in a relationship and prefer to exist in chaos where nothing requires commitment i am married and my female friends have never been an issue in my relationship w my wife bc she knows them the way she knows all my friends. one of my female friends is currently pregnant and considers my wife and i like uncle/a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 09:53 PM
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i just reread the first reply and i still have the same question 🤣 what is the purpose what is the goal
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 06:19 PM

thank you. like next question pls lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 04:15 PM
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perhaps
/r/MensRights19/04/25 01:06 AM
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oh i misunderstood what you meant- yeah i would agree but that’s what i was referring to when i said the part abt manual labour. you will definitely get fit, but doesn’t mean you’ll get toned as it relates to muscle definition even being in the military environment around tons of fit ppl, i can tell you the guys that are toned are the ones that actually spend time in the gym consciously working on their muscles
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:30 PM
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i work in the fashion industry as a male runway model and none of those things are objectively true, they’re just social narratives like the original point i made. fashion has always varied for men being less explored mainstream and more so with subcultures, but it’s undeniable that mainstream pop culture that men engage with have grown more in aesthetics and what clothes are socially acceptable. famous hip hop artists from 50 cent all the way in the early 20s to the likes of kanye and young thu…
/r/MensRights18/04/25 10:27 PM
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pardon?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 05:44 PM
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: )
/r/MensRights18/04/25 05:31 PM
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i think just for social narrative reasons ppl had the idea for the longest time that men aren’t into fashion, but that’s definitely changed w Gen Z esp has fashion has moved away from being associated w subcultures and more mainstream popculture like rap/hip-hop fashion etc
/r/MensRights18/04/25 05:12 PM
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love the honesty, but i don’t rlly understand the second sentence… what’s ideal abt not working out? i don’t figure you’re even capable of being toned without working out, unless you mean a guy that does manual labour and it’s like the equivalent of a guy saying he likes “natural” makeup on a woman lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 05:07 PM
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are you a believer of the theory that feminists, specifically radfems, are primarily right wing reactionaries and not truly indicative of the left
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/25 03:13 PM
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interesting, never heard of that. assumed UK’s government would be more progressive than america’s for some reason
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/25 03:08 PM
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i don’t know anything abt the UK, what exactly happened w trans rights? also there’s a lot to say abt american feminism, but from a black perspective i will say i’m glad the black community never fully adopted it even in lieu of things like womanism bc its never been lost to me that feminists have largely always represented the interests of women in higher tax brackets and not working class women lol. beyond just representing interests, doesn’t even take their material realities into account
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/25 03:03 PM

depends on where you live and skewed even more by age. there are a lot of beautiful young women on dating apps bc that’s just what a lot of young adults do in school environments, regardless of if they’re ltr minded i think if you live near a college you’ll find those types of women on apps and from a guy’s perspective it’s all relative anyway, i wouldn’t expect to go on hinge and see non beautiful women cause when i walk around in my day to day i think most women are pretty anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:47 PM

yes, but probably not for the same reasons they’d discount it. i think lot of women view it as a lack of credibility on men’s part in a very literal sense, you have never tried it so you can’t understand it so even if you’re well intentioned you’re too ignorant to say anything meaningful abt it. i think women think themselves to be misunderstood by men broadly from this line of thinking, similar to say that a man shouldn’t have opinions on abortion bc he can’t get pregnant- or the ones that take…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:13 PM
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important to note that this article is not and cannot be used as a source itself to validate that claim, and one would need to dig thru the handful of references listed in it to check for credible methodology or see if any data is being misrepresented. i don’t rlly want to do that right now, so taking it at face value that is an extremely higher percentage than i figure most ppl would expect to hear, but it is still a minority demographic and a subset of women. replace “those” women in my first …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 12:25 PM
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where did you get that number and is it for the usa? first i’ve heard of it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 12:04 PM
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i was hoping someone would say this, you’re already selecting for a minority personality type that wouldn’t be representative of females as a collective. so it wouldn’t say anything abt women, it’d be abt “those” women and what makes them atypical to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 11:46 AM
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none of this is making an attempt to engage w op. no one’s making a generalisation abt violence in media having specific material outcomes. it’s specifically asking why (assuming it’s even true) there would be an observable parity between which the genders watching violent porn, especially given that one would naturally assume men would be the ones doing it given the male proclivity to physical forms of aggression and being more likely to watch porn anyway. idek what op’s supposed to gain from t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 11:36 AM
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haven’t seen anyone make this point before… i gotta think on it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/25 03:24 AM
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agreed. and the men they glorify are never the ones who seem to prioritise family values- fatherless behaviour from women yet you’re out here trying to figure out how to get laid without commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:22 AM
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idk if i agree w every claim, but i will say i relate to the experience of being a shy and typical bluepill guy in my late teens to becoming a pretty socially confident man who has no issue getting casual sex- and it doesn’t get talked abt nearly enough how much the scarcity thing fucks w your psyche like genuinely so many men who don’t get women are delusional abt what it actually takes to get women, and unless you’re a sex addict you’ll quickly discover how unfulfilling it is anyway. idk what …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 03:14 AM
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completely agreed with how you put everything, and there’s a great irony in how the thread ended lol. i figure she would’ve paid more attention if she was reading the words of another woman that she could relate to, and not a worldview that comes off as foreign
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:57 AM
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i love the part you added abt emotional labour cause it’s apart of a larger insidious phenomenon (imo) that men broadly don’t speak up enough abt. as women over time have started to occupy more and more masculine spaces alongside growing in their efforts in academia, there’s this strange thing where they will experience something then give it a title as if to novelise it as a new thing when it’s something men have experienced forever but never intellectualised part of being the “provider/protect…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:50 AM
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ngl, using the military for any sort of post and regular society is always just gonna result in weak examples. when you’re a soldier you’re no longer a civilian with agency, you are a tool of the state. the state has plenty of reasons for all the various standards they have over ppl’s bodies and soldiers volunteer to give them autonomy over their bodies. like how does one engage with this specific standard other than to say, “if you want to paint your nails, don’t join the airforce”. i come from…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 09:01 PM
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first time i’ve ever seen someone make that point from the child’s perspective, and you know what, fair enough. unfortunately most of these conversations are around the couple specifically, and ppl who want kids definitely don’t give enough thought to how their lives will affect their kids lives. it’s probably objectively true that you’re being unfair to your kids by having them at an older age, so if you’re gonna do it anyway just acknowledge that outcome y’know
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:50 PM
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there was a post in a different sub abt how some a lot of basically bad actors in feminism are just conservative right wingers co opting the movement, and though i don’t completely agree and want to absolve the left of any of their responsibility- i will say these past 10 years it seems as if feminism has started to not just be progressive and adopt a lot of what would’ve been considered conservative attitudes in the past. idk when or where the shift happened, but in plenty of open internet spac…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:24 PM

occam’s razor is absolutely not assuming someone is neurodivergent when they are talking abt very specific experiences and not general lack of social cue understanding. if anything, this post is very literally the opposite bc these are things you recognise when you are hyper aware of social cues. i don’t know how to quote ppl the way i see others do on this app, but your first paragraph is literally just speaking to his point abt entitlement. not asking for something and still expecting for it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 07:07 PM

i understand what you’re saying, but i feel like you are disagreeing with conclusions that are not relevant to the premises. like yes to that thing abt the elderly, and i can say yes it’s not a “female trait” if that makes it less disagreeable, but it is a trait women express bc it’s human behaviour. like we understand these things when being gender critical under the lens of expectations men have for women broadly. consider when women talk abt the expectation of politeness, which i as a man ful…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:59 PM

you not believing something doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. i as a man have experienced this plenty times and it’s a super common behaviour when traveling that isn’t even problematic in most cases cause most ppl respond to it if someone indirectly wants help for something they’ll probably look around to see whomever is looking in their direction to make eye contact with, and with ppl who are direct the eye contact is usually the signal that lets you know they are available to ask for help. assum…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:48 PM

if it’s “an expectation in many cultures”, then that would directly serve the entitlement reason btw
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:32 PM

i think you are missing in his examples that he perceived passive aggression (or even direct aggression but escalated is used pretty vaguely by op) by the women after not helping them. the implication being that the women were absolutely expecting help bc they got angry after not receiving it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:31 PM
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i wish males had a strong in-group bias like this. just to see what it feels like to be delusional
/r/MensRights16/04/25 04:18 AM
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feels like radfem narratives that would’ve been niche a decade ago are becoming more and more prevalent in mainstream spaces
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/25 04:17 AM
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this is the opinion of someone who stays inside all day getting radicalised by the internet hivemind to the point of being completely divorced from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 04:12 AM
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perfectly stated. sexist women like this know full well how the gender differences manifest in society, but pretend to not understand what’s happening specifically when talking abt male violence. any woman that’s been the bullying victim of another woman knows that aggressive women still are not physically aggressive, instead it’s the social games they use to dehumanise ppl and signal for collective violence in the exact way op is doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 04:09 AM
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it’s gg go next (lifetime)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/25 03:56 AM
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i’m recently married but i will say before my wife and i started dating, i approached abt at least 3 women a month with varying results, just nothing resulting in anything consistent or long term until my current partner. some friends turned casual hookup, some dated with this rlly sweet girl that unfortunately had a lot of sexual trauma and baggage from her past relationship i wasn’t equipped to deal with so didn’t last very long, and to my memory only 1 real rejection from a cold approach at t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:06 AM
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“hate is useless”- wonder woman from zsjl
/r/MensRights15/04/25 09:57 PM
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huge
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 02:31 AM
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beyond lazy, it’s just pure dishonesty that they aren’t expecting anyone to be intelligent or well-read enough to fact check. many ppl treat their intuitions and experiences as objective reality. they’re not making unsubstantiated claims thinking in their head that if someone asked for proof they could easily prove it and justify themselves, they’re literally just stating their subjective beliefs as objective reality without any acknowledgment or regard for truth seeking and fact finding. that’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:05 PM
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“trust should be built on honesty, not blind faith” - i replied to a different post saying basically on this and never had more ppl disagreeing w me lol. insane bow i know if the contexts were change this would be a no brainer for them, but bc men are the ones being harmed here obvs women don’t empathise
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 02:22 PM
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completely agreed. gendered double standards will never change bc the fight against sexism was always abt misogyny exclusively, women prefer to live in a world where they can be sexist to men and act entitled to it
/r/MensRights21/03/25 03:23 PM
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this might be the dumbest thing anyone has ever responded to me on this platform. good luck in life
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:45 AM
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reread my post and i don’t think i said that? the point was that women broadly speaking select for guys that are proven to be dominant which includes being aggressive towards other men and them- at most i guess the implication is a lot of unsuccessful guys are less aggressive and likely similar in temperament to the average woman, so they’re the type of guys women would be friends with in the way they are friends w other women which you would assume means they treat women well to even be friends…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:43 AM
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Thank you for sharing mr. Cloth
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 05:40 PM
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recognise that throughout all or human history, only 40% of men have reproduced contrasted to i believe 89% of women. not meant to admonish women whatsoever, but it should make it clear as a man that most men to have ever lived have always been invisible and died alone. so no you’re not coping to acknowledge basic realities like dishonest framings which ik aren’t necessarily even intentional by ppl that do it, like the idea that men broadly not treating women well is why they are alone. men that…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:07 PM
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not even close to true. idky so many ppl lie abt this. you can take a society like iraq and see that in the 70s/80s women were broadly more liberated, but due to structural collapses those ppl ran to religion as a means of control and as a result were oppresive modern day. their history, like everyone else’s, has always been a matter of back and forth. it’s not like humans just happened across feminism 100 years ago and the world has been nonstop progress since then. at many points in history th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 12:56 PM
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fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 11:58 PM
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i don’t think any of this adds or modifies much to the convo? i understand all of that, but for good or bad as a society we have arbitrary decided on 18 as the legal age of adulthood, and it clashes with culture where ppl are delaying typical life milestones then infiltrate shifts, but still entirely expected to meet the legal expectations. all the conversations abt brain development and 25 all that stuff is fair enough, but i think it implies some stuff abt society that everyone is uncomfortabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 11:11 PM
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we all have our crucibles
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:11 PM
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happy to read how it worked out for you. i was also a nervous wreck as a teen so i can relate to your story, its hard to be confident but it does become easier as an adult
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 02:23 PM
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and i think i should add, the only reason these conversations even matter is their relevance to gender roles as they exist in dating. being that as we grow more progressive women they are less expected to uphold “traditional” roles which includes spending time educating themselves to compete equally with men for jobs, but these same women broadly still hold regressive views towards male gender roles and expect their man to be more successful then them so they straight up reject the idea of an eq…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 01:11 PM
1

to i agree w the title statement and think its generally uncontroversial, but the second paragraph makes no sense to me at all. wanting someone similar to you definitionally is not hypergamy and ESPECIALLY not gold digging. like this entire point would be a non sequitur if the goal is to argue against statements abt hypergamy or gold digging bc those terms literally have nothing to do w what MOST ppl do (commonly marry someone equal to them and more similar than different), those terms are used …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 12:59 PM
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you can definitely take it further and say gen z as a whole is overly infantilised. ppl treat college as an extension of youth and refer to them as “kids” up until their mid to late 20s, always been the the implication that they do or should have lesser agency then they ought to for being 24 and not 26. women in particular have the whole “20 year old teenager” that going on as a meme, but there’s always a bit of truth within jokes like that. as a society we are just delaying adulthood despite st…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 12:12 PM
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mostly agreed, but these suck in different ways. i don’t know why ppl have no problem admitting this for every facet of life except for dating, but being the pursuer is always going to the less desirable position in that dynamic. ppl understand this with friendships, with work, or even platonic friendships. i don’t think the answer to men becoming more vocal abt that is “women have it hard to” bc it’s not like any man has never not known the difficulties women face. even in the most conservative…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 11:14 AM
2

talk that talk papa
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 03:28 PM
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that other guys is actually the problem validating your point
/r/MensRights17/03/25 02:42 AM
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your last two paragraphs are very important, and i have zero fucking clue what we will do abt it. if there’s anything we can do abt it
/r/MensRights17/03/25 02:28 AM
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looking at court sentences for these cases are legit so depressing. these predators never get the time they deserve
/r/MensRights17/03/25 02:27 AM
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completely agreed. esp if they’re extroverted, they will never make an effort to understand neurodivergence bc it’s so foreign from them and how they exert their will onto others around them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 01:23 AM
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i can’t speak for that other woman, but i imagine she would say if you were a woman that you would’ve written it in a way she doesn’t see as infantilising
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 12:34 AM
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i see your point on the phrasing and how it can be interpreted as infantilising. how you put it in your first paragraph makes sense to me, i don’t assume he meant to phrase it in an “issue” way, and i’m trying to think of how i would word if i was trying to make that point properly… either way i see as well women don’t want to be talked at abt this stuff cause obvs they know it, but still good for men to read abt cause i think a lot of men lack awareness abt those things and let them become issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:24 PM
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which part was misinfo and what is the harm? genuinely asking cause i’ve talked abt this w my family (i’m married and have a lot of sisters in my nuclear family so my mother would tell my brother and i abt women’s health stuff to keep us educated), and nothing stood out at a glance to me. i would like to know if there’s something i should be aware of from this post that’s harmful 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:48 PM
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this feels like an ai ad, but it’s strange to me that the first reply i read immediately made it a fault thing. i’ve seen and heard plenty women say this same thing before so it’s cool to see a man just trying to spread awareness of it. not everything is worth fighting over i can say for my relationship w my wife, in our first year of dating she had me download an app that tracked her cycle and it helped me understand her better. i don’t know if this next thing i’m saying is fact or not, but i a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:20 PM
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i believe in the goodness of ppl and i’ve met far more good women in my life who are caring than ive ever had to interact with selfish and proudly misandrist women. it’s good to not get too attached to the internet stuff and recognise that conversations are just conversations, it will only effect you to the extent you let it extent you. many ppl are lost and social media/technology has exacerbated this problem, but they’re still trying. regardless of what i believe, as men i think it’s good to r…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 07:41 PM
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i echoed similar sentiments under that post. a lot of women speak in a way that’s weird to me where they kind of just say they expect men, or at least their man, to be a better person than them. i’ve never understood and i don’t think i’ve spoken to a woman who has articulated where that general sentiment comes from, but i think that’s what they’re mainly hitting at when they talk abt vulnerability. a man under that post replied to someone saying he didn’t appreciate how she was basically treati…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 07:08 PM

hope to god i never have to encounter this in my life. there’s nothing wrong w it and i wouldn’t shame anyone for saying like this, but they are such a minority. feels like despite their best efforts, most of their relationships will be rife w heartbreak until they find someone that sees it the way they do
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 04:08 PM
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agreed. if women generally believed this then it would generally align with male experiences anyway, but that has never been the case. you can and should be vulnerable with A woman. i choose to be vulnerable with my wife after knowing her as the person i’ve come to know over our decade of being in each others’ lives, and it has never been an easy choice- always a conversation. be vulnerable with your women, but never try to make it some sort of blanket advice for men to be vulnerable with women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 12:48 PM
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even if it was true it hardly means anything in a society where ppl are encouraged to take on massive debt the moment they turn 18, join the military or take on strenuous jobs that will weaken the condition of your body long term, drink do drugs and fuck frivolously with their peers, and generally just be as hedonistic as you can with your money w zero regard for long term planning. the things that ppl are expected to have done by 25 as cultural landmarks are genuinely kind of insane; dating som…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 11:44 AM
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yeah i’m leaning mostly toward this. the guys with options will always have higher standards anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 12:52 AM
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true. very least we could do as a collective rn is just start talking abt the problem honestly, but that would require valuing the truth over ego
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 12:48 AM
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i wish society could start to progress away from online dating and find ways to innovate meeting in-person, but likely won’t happen. and even if it did, the type of guys that grew up on online dating might not even be comfortable enough with rejection to start approaching women in public in their 20s. gotta be something that can be done to improve the landscape, but i have zero clue
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 12:11 AM
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it’s harder to feel attracted to ppl thru dating apps than is ever acknowledged. ppl will mistake it for lust and assume it’s easier for men, but not rlly. plenty of women that a guy would have a lustful reaction to on tinder, but still swipes left cause she doesn’t spark anything in him. even if we can’t do anything abt the barrier of touch, those apps should do more to incorporate your other senses by having ppl do short tiktok length into videos w their pictures just introducing themselves. i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 11:59 PM
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completely agreed on every point, but regarding their dms being completely “undesirables”- it’s like they never consider that a guy could be more attractive than a woman who is into him, and still date her if she expresses her interest because he’s willing to get to know her. even in cities full of the most shallow ppl you can find like miami imo, it’s not difficult to find a ton of couples where the guy has a nice paying job whilst the woman is still in school working part time, and is in bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 11:56 PM
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your last paragraph says it clear as day so idk what the confusion is. a lot of het women enjoy being a challenge/mystery sexually for the men they want to attract, so they simply won’t even accept an invitation for an open conversation abt what good sex means to them before doing it, they just want to explore w the man and have him discover in the moment. that means they get some other emotional fulfillment from it and will often finish having “good” (to them) sex without orgasming. how can you…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 11:52 AM
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the person you’re responding to does not engage in good faith, don’t bother
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 11:38 AM

you don’t know me lol. not sure what you meant by that, but i’m the last person responsible for anyone’s social programming given that i keep to myself
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 11:30 AM

that’s always gonna be the case lol, as a collective they never fail to remind you that they see themselves internally as lower than you and therefore shouldn’t be held to the standards they expect from you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 11:14 PM
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real
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 12:05 PM
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some would call it detachment, others would call it emotional maturity. regardless of how it’s phrase- imo most ppl act in a way that innately agrees with this principle
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 09:48 PM
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