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| 2 | A lot of women reject bisexual men because femininity is the only leverage they think they haveI agree. It's the female version of "if I can't force women to date me because they need my money/ need a man, she'll just leave me / there's no point of trying". Some people struggle to see their own value beyond just gender, and that produces lot of men who are terrified by women who don't need a man, as well as women who are scared of and avoid men who don't need a woman. Also, many people don't really want to form friendships with people they are dating and give their loyalty to them individ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 08:19 PM |
| – | It's weird to date a gender who's general impression of dating your gender is mild disgust.This is even visible in lot of the openings of this sub, men feel almost if not fully equal aversion towards "dudes" they don't know as women do, so they should understand why we feel it. That applies especially if the dude is considered fundamentally different than them and they don't consider themselves equal and similar to that man so that they can project their own selves on him and feel secure in "brotherhood" established by similarity. Men come to this sub constantly to complain about how … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 04:57 PM |
| – | It's weird to date a gender who's general impression of dating your gender is mild disgust.Writing here because I don't disagree with you Op but if it's weird to date people who are differing levels of disgusted and horrified by you, have you thought about how weird it's to date your own biggest predator? Just walking into cages of wild beasts blind never knowing what might happen and if they are hungry or something clicks in their mind and they take it on you (because sick men, so so often hurt women and you never know who gets sick). It's like keeping a tame tiger in your home, you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 04:35 PM |
| – | What Aspects of Men's dating life do you have find yourself getting jealous of?That's true. I'm extremely late to the train but I would not trade my sexuality for men's. Getting fast food on demand is very nice but if it means you can never have full Michelin star meal it gets old fast. Sure men have higher libido for most of the month (and I'm sure better orgasms on those days) but for about 3 days each month there's nothing that can compare to how good even single self love session feels to a woman. And then I get relative peace for rest of the month. I don't think pleas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 04:02 PM |
| 4 | What Aspects of Men's dating life do you have find yourself getting jealous of?This is my list too. I also like the idea I can achieve something that I'm driven to do like learn a new skill and if I get my moment of shine with it people of opposite sex actually admire it and feel something because of it, instead of just seeing me as pussy on legs to which all other qualities are secondary. I'd like my humanity, part of which I see my drive as, loved as part of me the way women love such things in men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 07:45 PM |
| – | In my opinion, it’s pointless to blame women for their dating standards.Well. She could but getting that stuff everywhere else requires it's own effort so if you can genuinely make her life better (and aren't overlooking how much you are actually putting her down or causing her hurt and effort) then you are still decently good deal for her. It is true you are not just competing against other men but everyone else she can reach for things like human connection and genuine support aren't necessarily better at it than you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/26 07:16 PM |
| 0 | Older men don't understand how undesirable they are to younger womenI wasn't talking about the women who are going for those old guys. Your comprehension is severely lacking. I have ADHD and even I feel sorry for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 12:44 AM |
| – | If you were born male, do you think you'd be doing better than other men in areas that you criticize men for?I agree. I'm absolutely certain I wouldn't be better about it because even growing up as I did I was a handful to raise, and was unfortunately not very good person in some regards in my early teens which could and I believe would have gotten out of hand if I was male and enabled even a little more. And unfortunately my mother while otherwise excellent mother makes lots of excuses for boys and men and, in my opinion, isn't helpful to her friends son that she has occasionally babysat as a favour b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 12:35 AM |
| 2 | Older men don't understand how undesirable they are to younger womenI think that's it. Men tend to prioritise themselves way above prioritising what's going on in someone else's head - a quality that in my humble opinion women should learn too. And no I'm not telling women to start hitting on people their children's age because honestly that's gross done by either gender. But the part of focusing on what one is getting from relationship and whether they are happy right now, rather than obsessing over someone else's internal world is honestly healthy. It protects… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 10:35 PM |
| – | You have to be comfortable with the idea of getting cheated on to be in a relationshipYeah gotta love the fucking biphobia. I defend women who want to hit bars with their friends but I myself hit them only with my boyfriend because I'm just not extroverted enough to enjoy them. I also hate most romantic attention much more than some married women who are able to laugh at it or even sometimes take it as compliment. In the meantime I'm horrified if a person I don't want to interact with remembers I exist for any reason. The wild bisexual of the bunch is my home sitting ass that rel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 07:00 PM |
| – | You have to be comfortable with the idea of getting cheated on to be in a relationshipI agree. I've come across to plenty of couples who are absolutely cool with flirting with other people in each others presence. Some use it to put new people on ease, and others do it because their partner loves the idea of their partner having attention that leads to nowhere because it makes them feel like they are constantly winning something that's wanted by others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 06:54 PM |
| – | You have to be comfortable with the idea of getting cheated on to be in a relationshipThis. This why I love red pillers who are the actual red pillers rather than whiny babies. Answer to "can this thing happen" is always gonna be "of course it can" for realists and you just have to take care of yourself if it does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 06:51 PM |
| – | You have to be comfortable with the idea of getting cheated on to be in a relationshipI think he just means ones partner cheating without having sex, like light flirting or not rejecting attention from opposite sex. Basically something that they wouldn't do in front of their partner but that doesn't quite form into a competing relationship. I think it echoes manosphere belief that women who go out with their friends can't possibly be trusted to rebuff attention, which I think is probably projection because if those men themselves would rebuff attention without any question they p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 06:49 PM |
| – | You have to be comfortable with the idea of getting cheated on to be in a relationshipOr you need to learn to love without thinking the next day is guaranteed because it never is. There's been ton of times in my life I have lost someone I loved (not just romantic partners) one way or another but each time taught me more about myself than about other people because I used that time to pick apart different reasons it hurt and learning to be more self sufficient in some of them. Loving people without needing to own them is like skating - you can't stop falling, and you will always f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 06:37 PM |
| – | You have to be comfortable with the idea of getting cheated on to be in a relationshipThat's it. You can't treat relationships like you are always guaranteed another day. Getting cheated on is just one of the many ways you can lose a person overnight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 06:21 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Good for the collective of men perhaps. For majority of women and most often the children either things have never been good under patriarchy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 12:54 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Look. Human children need consistent effort for at least 15 years to stand even minimal chance of becoming successful enough that you actually get grandchildren. That means that successful reproduction (for our specific species) doesn't only require that you pick the healthiest possible candidate to conceive with, but that you also secure partner who has the personality and skillset to tend to the child/children for the next fifteen years. This is so profound in our entire evolution that it fact… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 12:50 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Not granting you ownership of another human being just so you can have sex is not treating you like disposable tool. Wars on the other hand were orchestrated by other men so maybe you should take your beef on them instead of blaming women for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 12:32 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Should other previously oppressed classes of people also thank you for not enslaving them or are women the only class of people who owes thanks for having basic human rights? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 12:13 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?What do you think should be done about that then, throw women to the wolves? Make women suffer behind closed doors in hopes of placating disruptive individuals like in the past just so rest of the society doesn't have to deal with the problem? Those men had the choice to try to become better partners that a woman would want and these "model citizens" chose to spit on people's faces instead, how can you think that they would treat their assigned slave wife well and improve her life when they alre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 11:50 AM |
| 16 | If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman providesMany people have tried it with the result that: when mom was home watching the baby she tidied up and maybe washed load of laundry when dad was home watching the baby he made a giant mess and the mom had to clean up in a little while the dad started doing distant work/ hustling / playing video games in addition to making a giant mess because watching babies gets mind numbingly boring after a while and many men are not familiar with sacrifice that caretaking entails so they assume they are just s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 10:17 AM |
| 5 | Most women have someone.You don't have to "know everything" in order to not be anxious mess. Nor do you have to "know everyone". People who are secure and have optimistic outlook on the world and other people are calm and willing to learn without hangups even when they are faced with new situations, and they meet new people with grace. Most people want that kind of partner because it improves relationship and both parties health and because (if accurately detected and not confused with narcism) it tends to reduce the r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 09:13 PM |
| 1 | Most women have someone.That's bullshit. Nice hair that's not plucked nearly nonexistent length because the guy wants to save effort and not get it cut as often already makes him look so much better and is rarely seen. Skincare products and pants that don't hang loose as if one just came back from doing something sweaty further improve looks no matter if starting point isn't great. A guy that thinks those don't improve his looks is probably trying to cater to male eye by looking like one of action heroes geared towards… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 09:08 PM |
| 1 | Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different.The low value men try to treat their relationship matches like casual sex matches, get rejected by them because she is their relationship match rather than casual sex match so should be treated as one, and then whine loneliness when those matches also show no interest (in a man that wants to treat them poorly despite that it's 1:1). Usually that guy even knows those women could get 9:1 instead of 1:1 if they wanted to be sex zoned, but he's too busy being bitter and trying to revenge his situati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 04:12 PM |
| 5 | Excluding sons, do you have little to no sympathy for men?Also it's usually siblings that ends up having to tell you the things you don't particularly want to hear but that are the truth of the situation. I know my sister is the first person to approach my problems from the perspective of "well, how did that work out for you?" but that's not because she's out to mock me, it's because she as my sibling is one of the very few people who can skip the pleasantries and go straight to the core when it's obvious I've fucked up. Ops sibling telling him to go t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 07:48 PM |
| 10 | Excluding sons, do you have little to no sympathy for men?It sounds like they are just tired of your sexism. You are stereotyping women and making lot of assumptions about reasons you got rejected and that would make me exhausted too and want to shut conversation down. If you don't even respect women enough to listen to them - which would give you an idea women want somewhat different things, some of which aren't ultra masculine qualities you are imagining - how do you expect women to keep putting up with your rants. I highly doubt your sister has ever… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 06:58 PM |
| 6 | CMV: women find male sexuality disgustingThen substitute women with someone who you don't want to have sex with, because that's the situation for women. Imagine gay men treating you the same as you treat women and it'll dawn on you why that's disgusting when people you don't want to have sex with do that to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 06:32 PM |
| – | Do youn think artificial wombs would solve the abortion issue for everyone?I think not completely because you would still be subjecting the woman in whose body pregnancy takes place to invasive procedure in order to transfer the pregnancy, ... so if you are still in medical abortion area of pregnancy it would make sense for the pregnant body's owner to say no to any kind of surgery. You'd still need her permission. That applies majority of abortions because they happen early enough to only require pill. But I think it would lessen the inherent inequality of childbirth … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 03:57 PM |
| 1 | Men don't understand what women want because women have been sending mixed signals, not because men have poor understanding.True. The times I thought I'd found my dream man (happened more when I was young and naive) my appearance preferences flied out window except for one eye colour that I can't stand. The other way around is rarer but I've had two experiences of really liking someone's looks and general vibe so much that I wouldn't have initially asked as many questions about who they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 06:08 PM |
| 4 | Men don't understand what women want because women have been sending mixed signals, not because men have poor understanding.To be fair he doesn't sound like redpill to me, just someone who is either on the spectrum or from family that produces lot of people on the spectrum. I'm both so I'd know. Just sounds confused to me about what ideal man is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 06:06 PM |
| 3 | Men don't understand what women want because women have been sending mixed signals, not because men have poor understanding.There are people out there for detached people but you unfortunately do need to learn some small talk and tolerate hanging out with people in order to find out who else is detached enough to want to ride into (mostly) people free sunset with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 05:40 PM |
| 2 | Men don't understand what women want because women have been sending mixed signals, not because men have poor understanding.That's true too. I used to want a man that is super flexible until I realised I accidentally bulldoze over super flexible people and then I end up feeling bad. Now I'm with stubborn guy who cares ton about what I prefer to do so he'll see how what I want could happen but if it gets massively inconvenient for him he's like a wall that won't budge and I have to do it alone or drop it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 05:32 PM |
| 8 | Men don't understand what women want because women have been sending mixed signals, not because men have poor understanding.Yes. I'm fine with a man who cries when he sees a bee but most women who say they want emotionally expressive man mean different things with it than me. One might want awfully even tempered man who is never on fire about anything but she wants him to be able to express when he is cold or hungry or wants to go home instead of sulking about it. If he starts quoting Robert Frost while raking leaves she's out. Another might mean she wants to be able to have deep conversations about feelings and plan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 05:17 PM |
| 2 | Men don't understand what women want because women have been sending mixed signals, not because men have poor understanding.I think you are confusing feedback from several different women. People here like to claim women go for same percentage of men, but I think it's mostly illusion caused by several factors 1) Women tell you guys over again that photos do nothing for them, yet studies are typically conducted using photos, leading to what I think is most women predictably experiencing no attraction and just flagging some photos instead of none because they feel pressure to pick something 2) There's a significant num… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 04:31 PM |
| 9 | why cant you lust after average men?Yep. Our desire is just as significant to us as yours is to you. Men are not the default humans. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 04:52 AM |
| 14 | why cant you lust after average men?That exactly. Even in my peak libido which was pretty high in amount of effort I had to put in helping myself I have still never channeled it towards random men because there's no benefit in that for me. You described exactly why. Random men are just more effort with little to no reward since I'm better with myself than someone who hasn't invested time in getting to know me on every level. And the risks are abysmal. Also, I'm just not into them until I know the guy quite bit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 04:40 AM |
| 10 | why cant you lust after average men?And haircut makes their head look like potato because even with extreme cheap costs it takes to maintain men's hair they are too lazy to go more often than absolute bare necessary so they get the hair cut as short as possible even if they are the kind of guy whose head looks like a knob as result. Zero self awareness about it most often. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 04:27 AM |
| 7 | why cant you lust after average men?Women who have higher sex drive still often channel the attraction end differently and don't lust after random men without reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 04:23 AM |
| 15 | why cant you lust after average men?No. It's how half of the planet works. It's literally normal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 04:20 AM |
| 5 | It is infantilizing to women to say that women who have drunk alcohol cannot consent to sex, while nothing is said about men who drank alcoholIt was criticised by everybody. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 01:59 PM |
| 4 | It is infantilizing to women to say that women who have drunk alcohol cannot consent to sex, while nothing is said about men who drank alcoholThat was viciously criticised by feminists so obviously it's not in line with feminist beliefs. Can you just admit you dug out something 20 years old from manosphere forums and you were mislead about what happened because there was missing context of feminists pushing back against it that you didn't get together with the poster? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 01:52 PM |
| 6 | It is infantilizing to women to say that women who have drunk alcohol cannot consent to sex, while nothing is said about men who drank alcoholNo but I have taken all rape victims in my life serious whether they are women or men so why would I break the pattern when it becomes to people who were drunk? It's against my values. I've encountered man who was raped under influence online thrice, and I have never blamed those men or upvoted any comments that blame them or are unkind, which is in line with my values and beliefs. I don't believe and have never believed that people of any gender should jump on a person who is either too drunk t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 12:42 PM |
| 6 | It is infantilizing to women to say that women who have drunk alcohol cannot consent to sex, while nothing is said about men who drank alcoholSure, there are too little of them. I think it's also possible that some of the people who work with rape victims would need an inclusivity class to stress the point across to them that men can also be raped, since it's against stereotypes and sometimes people react badly when suddenly confronted with situation that goes against stereotypes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 09:42 AM |
| 1 | It is infantilizing to women to say that women who have drunk alcohol cannot consent to sex, while nothing is said about men who drank alcoholThose codes should change because rape isn't just penetration. Moreover I have read an account of a guy who was in party drunk just lounging on a couch in some room or another when some girl he didn't know climbed on top of him and somehow managed to make his equipment work, but he was too drunk to think about it so he "went along with it" out of inability to come up with coherent thought about what's happening and how to stop it. The experience caused massive damage to his life and relationship… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 09:34 AM |
| 4 | It is infantilizing to women to say that women who have drunk alcohol cannot consent to sex, while nothing is said about men who drank alcoholBingo. The point where one can see the potential sexual partner is not really there anymore it turns into rape. You should not "be having sex" with someone who is so drunk they are struggling to process what's even happening let alone form a response to it. Regardless of the person's gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 09:21 AM |
| 3 | It is infantilizing to women to say that women who have drunk alcohol cannot consent to sex, while nothing is said about men who drank alcoholThank you for commenting. I believe you when you say wealth was a defining factor, and also when you say lot of people posing as feminists don't actually have feminist values once they are tried. Also, thank you for reporting your assault - I can see it cost you ton personally but it's so important for people to recognise this type of thing can also happen to men. Sure, the rich are ultimately running the show but sometimes rest of us manage to push back a little. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 09:00 AM |
| 5 | It is infantilizing to women to say that women who have drunk alcohol cannot consent to sex, while nothing is said about men who drank alcoholSame. The dreaded feminists are actually 90% of people who bother to comment on those cases and assure the man that what happened was actually rape and not his fault because feminists are used to be vocal and talk about uncomfortable topics. Other men are rarely even seen in those conversations let alone offering any kind of support to the victim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 08:50 AM |
| 6 | It is infantilizing to women to say that women who have drunk alcohol cannot consent to sex, while nothing is said about men who drank alcoholAnd almost all the victim services that accept men are originally founded by feminists. But I guess it doesn't matter because they didn't exclude women from them, which seems to be the only way these dudes ever recognise anything anyone does for them. It's so petty and gross. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 08:42 AM |
| 9 | It is infantilizing to women to say that women who have drunk alcohol cannot consent to sex, while nothing is said about men who drank alcoholI am a feminist and I would absolutely take a man who got raped under influence serious. A blackout drunk man cannot consent. You just hate feminists and demonise them so of course you aren't engaging in good faith. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 08:38 AM |
| 4 | It is infantilizing to women to say that women who have drunk alcohol cannot consent to sex, while nothing is said about men who drank alcoholThere are cases of women being forced to pay child support to their rapist, it's not exclusive to men. If you actually care about rape victims having to pay child support rather than care about dunking on women you should care about all the rape victims and try to change the law. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 08:32 AM |
| 4 | Why are there so many career driven woman that still expect a very wealthy man to provide for their lifestyle with no sacrifice whatsoever?I'm so tired of these "think pieces" that come from people watching too much Tiktok that encourages 20s attention span and lack of depth and then filter rest of reality through Tiktok brain. Watching 30min YouTube video where the person talks in depth about their thoughts gives you opportunity to try to gauge little bit whether the person is actually serious or faking it for clicks based on how much thought they put in the video. In the meantime Tiktok doesn't have similar filter because shots a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 08:23 AM |
| 3 | Why are there so many career driven woman that still expect a very wealthy man to provide for their lifestyle with no sacrifice whatsoever?"Judging someone solely based on their success when some people have way better support networks than others isn’t always the most fair way to look about it". It is a fair way to look at it if what that particular woman wants is money. If she wanted a man who hypothetically could have gotten rich but never actually will, she would say that. If I continuously watched content by incompatible men and drove myself nuts over everyone who doesn't want me because they want something else I'd be stupid.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 08:12 AM |
| 12 | Why are there so many career driven woman that still expect a very wealthy man to provide for their lifestyle with no sacrifice whatsoever?Didn't think you'd actually admit you watch Tiktok all day, but it's already so obvious based on opening. This is what happens when you want to have 20s attention span in media - you get rage baits, because 20s is too short for nuanced conversation about what people actually think | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 07:56 AM |
| 4 | Have you ever asked yourself why the patriarchy and hypergamy exists and why were they created?This is true but even though I don't believe it emerged out of malice, it doesn't change that for thousands of years both malicious and non malicious individuals took advantage of it. A man trying to survive may not have thought "I have the power therefore I'll use it to oppress my wife today" but practically if he was hungry he could take food from her and his children's mouths and feed himself while telling himself all the others are actually fine and don't need that much, and there'd be nothi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/26 12:52 PM |
| 1 | Have you ever asked yourself why the patriarchy and hypergamy exists and why were they created?They were. But after changing climate changed how resources could be obtained and populations maintained (grass fields disappeared, big fauna became rarer and many other changes occurred), we were cornered for a long while in a system where it was actually difficult to extract living for everyone and the children they birthed. So it's sort of "understandable" that while cornered and fighting with each other over resources we came up with not so great system that's less communal, values individua… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/26 12:45 PM |
| 6 | Some women are avoiding relationships because of social anxietyIt is lot of work. I spent six years going on dates meeting new people before I could find a man that didn't raise any yellow or red flags. Most guys lasted 1-3 dates before they did something selfish or dismissive that raised enough doubts that I couldn't trust rest of my life on them. I'm introverted and last thing I really wanted to do with my precious little freetime was having to meet yet another guy next weekend, yet I still did it because I was taught to not give up on first hardship. I c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/26 11:47 AM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Exactly this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 01:17 PM |
| 4 | Are women really don't like male attention only because of safety issues?Right, I don't really mind if I'm complimented or gawked at when I'm dressed to impress certain assets ... but I have to be able to credibly assume that the guy thinks I want to hear what they are saying rather than pushes random things on me without care about whether I'm receptive, so if they continue the interaction past the point where I'm obviously not interested it gets quite upsetting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 09:06 AM |
| 9 | Are women really don't like male attention only because of safety issues?I'm going to piggy back because I agree with everything you guys already said (turns out sometimes women really are a monolith). When I have been hit on by lesbians or other bi women there was never quite the same air of fragility and possibly impeding aggression to the interaction because I knew that the moment I say "no" I'm free of the woman without burden of having to manage her emotions. Including not having to feel guilty for supposedly crushing her or any such shit. I know if it goes nowh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 08:54 AM |
| 3 | If feminism and patriarchy didn’t exist, but you had to choose between marrying the love of your life and being a homebody all day and having no friends, or being a career women yet never meeting the love of your life or getting in any serious relationship, which would you choose?Career because kids are wonderful but they also get very very tiring on their own. I'll even pick mediocre career over being stuck with just a man. One man won't be able to fill all my social needs and substitute for me having a life. I know I'll end up hating him no matter how wonderful he is because of the circumstance of feeling stuck with him too much. Also he has all the power and I'll inevitably start leaning into it and expecting him to fix more problems than one person is actually capabl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 07:53 AM |
| – | The 50/50 Rule: Reclaiming Men’s Self-Respect and Autonomy.True but it makes sense to start from things you actually want and that you can control like sufficient education and maybe even experience to parent in the first place. And if you know for sure you don't want a partner for whatever reason and still want to parent there's nothing wrong in working towards that goal as long as you actually work and plan and don't just whine because families can look in many kind of way and maybe you find your own support network while you work on the skills for it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 07:33 PM |
| – | The 50/50 Rule: Reclaiming Men’s Self-Respect and Autonomy.Tbh working towards goals you say you have is pretty good help in stabilising at least some mental health struggle you might be having. Not without medication and therapy but alongside those things. And it takes absolutely nothing to start reading about common child rearing issues or even watch YouTube videos of them while you work on the mental health. I agree legacy sounds like some manosphere bullshit rather than mission coming from someone's heart. But I'd judge that based on effort invested… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 07:25 PM |
| – | The 50/50 Rule: Reclaiming Men’s Self-Respect and Autonomy.Finally one thing you wrote that I can agree with. No one should make themselves dependent on another person, that fosters nothing good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 07:22 PM |
| – | The 50/50 Rule: Reclaiming Men’s Self-Respect and Autonomy.Even if Op wanted bio kids, starting from getting the education about how to parent and maybe fostering wouldn't be bad idea. But usually men who keep going about wanting kids haven't even read a single article about babies and kids psychology nor do they know even simple things like how to break up fights between children or how to teach them emotional regulation in age appropriate ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 07:17 PM |
| – | The 50/50 Rule: Reclaiming Men’s Self-Respect and Autonomy.Right. Like, things I do for my boyfriend and don't expect back are not necessarily even gendered things, it's just that we are two separate people who need and value different things. Some of the dynamic is gendered according the "usual" norms and some is reverse from how genders would suggest but you absolutely cannot "dance" the dance that requires two people if you are paranoid, fearful and zealous about every single difference even if it's just temporary one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 07:08 PM |
| 3 | Q4women if your long time bf/husbands sexual orientation slightly changed after years together would you break up?This is so weird to me and honestly reads as internalised misogyny because being dominated and "serving" other people isn't inherently inferior in any way. Nor is it only limited to women if one actually has healthy attitudes about it. Do they also think their man making them a sandwich or pouring their bath is icky and unmanly, or going down on them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 07:53 AM |
| 2 | What do you think about young men feeling abandoned and demonised by left?The resources are income based so they actually disproportionately go to men per actual headcount that's benefiting from them exactly because men are the biggest group of people in poverty so much more likely to qualify for benefits. The financial aid that goes to children tends to be roughly 50-50 genderwise because kids tend to be roughly half boys and girls. It gets listed under their mother because no one is going to hand food stamps meant for 13 year old boy and his sister directly to the k… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 11:49 PM |
| 2 | Woman, would you date a detrans man? Why or why not?You haven't. People just catastrophize things around gender beyond what's actually reasonable or has any actual effect on reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 09:52 PM |
| 2 | Woman, would you date a detrans man? Why or why not?I think for a lot of people the default thinking process goes "I wouldn't do that and there is nothing wrong with me -> There must be something wrong with people who do it." But as far as things that could be "wrong " with person go, having a bit more introspection is rather benign. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 09:47 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about young men feeling abandoned and demonised by left?"Women cannot love, date, marry, sexually satisfy, explain, forgive, or politically accommodate men into becoming safe." Exactly. And we can't stop anger issues these men keep having from being profitable grift and stop every outlet from making money on that & make it possible that those men don't have to fix their emotional issues themselves. That includes both rage baity Tiktoks and manosphere. People threatening women with even more violence are also getting same reception from me than they a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 09:31 PM |
| 0 | What do you think about young men feeling abandoned and demonised by left?Weak men receive care same way weak women do: by looking pretty and keeping their mouths shut. Unfortunately they are not good at either and people in general don't like weak people with that exception. That goes doubly for destructive weak people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 09:19 PM |
| 2 | What do you think about young men feeling abandoned and demonised by left?Also stopping Tiktok from posting content that enrages people is not realistic because that reaction makes them click and those clicks directly translate into money. People have to gain media literacy or else that problem won't go away, and men, despite how resistant they are to learning things in general especially as it pertains to controlling their anger, are not exempt from having to learn it. Not because there is a plot against them spesifically but because it's the current reality for ever… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 09:06 PM |
| 3 | What do you think about young men feeling abandoned and demonised by left?I agree. The feeling they are not important is probably burdening and making lot of men angry for reasons that, if those weren't affecting their voting decisions, I could come to understand. But at the same time vast majority of women feel betrayed enough that they don't have any interest in doing what for them looks like excessive coddling of men's feelings and they also have lot of reason to treat any rhetoric that sounds like that with suspicion. So changing rhetoric much isn't really an opti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 09:04 PM |
| 12 | What do you think about young men feeling abandoned and demonised by left?That's exactly my beef with it too. Left is doing plenty of things that directly improve young men's lives but apparently because they are not excluding women from it it's not good enough. If the only way anything can be "for men" is if it has the subtext of excluding women, even if it's directly tending to those men's actual needs, then the issue isn't "you don't do things for me" but "you don't abuse women enough so I'm going to ignore everything you are doing for me". Even most social securit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 08:38 PM |
| 3 | Most Lesbian or Bisexual women do NOT have more game than straight men. It is simply easier as a girl to date.Exactly. It could be that what's my nightmare is your experience of being appreciated and vise versa but in the end the end goal is the same and the leading thought is to find out what the other person feels is appreciation and do that so they know they are valued. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 08:26 PM |
| 2 | Woman, would you date a detrans man? Why or why not?Yes I would. I don't care. I'm bisexual not straight I don't know if that plays a role but I don't generally care if people inspect their gender identity or even count it positive that the thought has entered their mind. Also, I wouldn't hold it against the guy or think he's inherently more feminine than some other guy because I believe all people have mix of stereotypically feminine and masculine qualities. In regarding other comments here because I find them shocking: I think it's super close … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 08:13 PM |
| 7 | Most Lesbian or Bisexual women do NOT have more game than straight men. It is simply easier as a girl to date.I don't really expect to be popular for my take in this but I think women are simply missing a culture on how to make moves and escalate romantically. I think it's similar to how men might find it hard to picture themselves being a parent in comparison to women, or how they might default to thinking their significant other is the actual parent even in situations where they themselves are doing most of the work and deserve credit for it. I think women have major difficulty seeing themselves as pu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 07:56 PM |
| 3 | Most Lesbian or Bisexual women do NOT have more game than straight men. It is simply easier as a girl to date.In the meantime, to help you make the point, I'm definitely flowers kind of gal. Spare the words because how do I even know if you mean them (and definitely don't spend my emotional bandwidth with excessive texting!), but flowers are something pretty to look at that reminds me someone went into that much extra trouble for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 07:47 PM |
| 2 | Most Lesbian or Bisexual women do NOT have more game than straight men. It is simply easier as a girl to date.I love kdramas exactly because of that (since I'm not a fan of instant exchange of body fluids) but lol that's so accurate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 07:43 PM |
| 7 | Freedom in relationshipsI personally require a lot from my partner in this regard because yes, technically speaking having friends of different gender does make it possible that some sort of emotional affair could occur. But in my mind - and mind you I also happily allow female friends other way around - eliminating that risk completely isn't worth it compared to how restrictive and frankly in my opinion ridiculous life gets if you are supposed to sort people into two baskets and treat one of them like bomb based on ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 03:42 PM |
| – | The media narrative about AI girlfriends and AI boyfriends is oppositeIt's not in any way pointless to learn social skills. A human being without those skills is like one that doesn't know how to eat or drink or sleep and needs help every time - learning social skills is of key importance for a human to lead healthy fulfilling life. If Ai starts encouraging people to stagnate in helpless state it has definitely formed into a problem of it's own. I expect to be unpopular for this but rather than let people use AI as full copium that resigns them to illusion of conn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 01:11 PM |
| – | The media narrative about AI girlfriends and AI boyfriends is oppositeThe only part I agree with is that journalists should do better than be blinded by cultural bias. Unfortunately small club of billionaires in varying trench coats own all the press and as result press simply writes what makes most money. That in turn tends to mean that whatever narrative is easiest to stomach for your average citizen gets written, and that narrative tends to fit right in with cultural bias of how each gender is perceived. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 12:56 PM |
| – | The media narrative about AI girlfriends and AI boyfriends is oppositeIt's not a bad thing for either gender if they actually understand what they are getting into and stay emotionally clear about what those companions are and aren't. But it's absolutely a bad thing if you start living with delusion it's real in some way that it isn't. Then it becomes sort of ozempic of relationships - you think you are fine because the hunger has been artificially killed but you aren't getting the nutrients. Brains need things too and one of those things is meaningful human inter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 12:34 PM |
| 1 | Being confident doesn’t matter if you’re not seen as competent.Doing your best for first impressions in situations where it's expected that you are doing your best is different from lying if that's your point. Just because depressed person might struggle to shower every day doesn't mean they should show up to job interview unshowered, and showering beforehand isn't deception. That doesn't mean the warehouse they are working at necessarily considers them a bad employee once they have passed the interview and gotten hired. No new people want to learn the very… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 09:33 AM |
| 1 | Being confident doesn’t matter if you’re not seen as competent.Nah it's like telling depressed person to not cry on plain sight of bunch of people they are meeting for the first time. Taking care to come across as confident as you are able to and not deliberately portraying worst of your insecurity is just common sense when you are looking for opportunities | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 08:33 AM |
| 1 | Being confident doesn’t matter if you’re not seen as competent.I agree. Confident moron will be tolerated a lot less than meek moron, but he'll appeal to only subset he has any chance of appealing in the first place much better than if he's a part of tolerated wallpaper. Yes, it will be other morons but being wallpaper will do away with that too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 08:29 AM |
| 2 | Men fail to understand that women want to be chosen, not settled for.I think every gender should value being chosen for serious commitment by someone who treats them well, and not obsess over whether they were first choice or not as long as they are treated well and commitment seems real. Otherwise it's just gonna be endless loop of people making themselves crazy over peanuts instead of focusing on the happy relationships they could be building together. Both genders have ability to commit to someone and not try to monkey branch into better options if they want t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 02:12 PM |
| 5 | Men fail to understand that women want to be chosen, not settled for.I agree with you. I think people who don't want to be the "good enough" option are projecting a bunch of additional and mostly unrelated fears on the relationship. I think they are treating being the Magical Unicorn that supposedly beats all the other options in whole world as "solve it all" solution that frees them from having to fear anything else. Reality doesn't work like that though, because even if you were the magical unicorn all the other things that can go wrong still can go wrong and m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 02:01 PM |
| 1 | Men and women do not live the same lifeMen also have, on average, riskier reproduction strategies. Women (and some men but not all) tend to invest their 100% on keeping any kids they already have alive which is the safest way to ensure you have some grandchildren, some great grandchildren and so on. While many men are either partially or completely focused on chasing new women at the cost of their existing families and have high likelihood of abandoning the kids they already have. In trying to win lottery they often lose the bag they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 04:34 AM |
| 0 | Men and women do not live the same lifeMaybe it's pity, plain and simple. I wouldn't have heart to delete Ops post either | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/26 04:12 AM |
| 6 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonWhat does "seeing men as people" mean to you? Look, every woman in our lives adds something to it. They don't decrease our quality of life or they would also be out of our lives. Does that make them accessory too? I feel like, for you, "women sacrificing their quality of life to increase men's " is the only way we can "see men as people " somehow. We don't even do that for other women but are supposed to do it for man or else it's a proof we don't see him as a person? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 11:33 PM |
| 15 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonAll those other options didn't love him either because the only reason he had more options than modern man is because those women were dependent. It's like you going to poor country on purpose to look for love, you will know from the beginning that main reason women are interested is your wallet. Taking advantage of someone that's not your equal is not conductive to "finding love". You may find it accidentally but most likely you just don't. This still applies even if you appear to have "lot of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 11:14 PM |
| 14 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonYou are thinking morality in terms of black and white. Research consistently shows most people can be bought or pushed to do things they would normally not do. Society where adult people are dependents equals to extreme amount of pushing. It doesn't mean every single grandma who actually hated her husband was immoral through and through or had no other principles they held to. Our grandmothers didn't cheat on their partners and ones that were repeatedly raped or threatened with violence usually … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 10:57 PM |
| 2 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reason"The idea that Grandma or great grandma didn't really love their husbands, they were just with them for survival." It's not just "an idea", it's what we heard from women that became before us and had to suffer oppression. They married because they were expected to. Sure, they tried to choose men they at least liked but the men treated them poorly (another function of patriarchy) and they ended up not liking them. We know this because we know our grandmothers and our mothers know theirs. Those ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 10:31 PM |
| – | Women appreciate compliments, just not from guys who obviously want sex as a thank you.Sure that's definitely true! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 09:12 PM |
| 7 | The reason men and women can't empathize with each other's dating woes is because we are experiencing fundamentally different realities.That's so true. Relationships take time and effort to find and inbetween relationships there aren't many people with both the capacity and willingness to entertain you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 08:50 PM |
| 1 | The reason men and women can't empathize with each other's dating woes is because we are experiencing fundamentally different realities."Today’s young men face much more risk of getting publicly labeled as creepy or even accused of harassment. " No they don't. What has changed is actual harrassment is forbidden and women don't have to take it and downplay it anymore. Even then the consequences for men are practically nothing anywhere other than places like work, and latter is fair considering that it's cornering ones victim in situation she can't easily escape. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 08:34 PM |
| 12 | I find women from other countries respect men more than in USA?Yet men say the same about Asian women. When you don't know the culture you don't understand the underlying dynamics. Sometimes that's refreshing at first, because it doesn't ruin first impressions, but there's no free lunch for anyone so ultimately you are going to have to contend with all of the same stuff as with any other woman, whether it's in exact same form or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 05:16 PM |
| 9 | I find women from other countries respect men more than in USA?And I'm cis. She's just as valid and speaks for many. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 05:07 PM |
| 6 | I find women from other countries respect men more than in USA?No you should not ignore them. Those women are not inherently more worthless and if they want a relationship with someone who wants it with them then they deserve to have it. They also deserve to be appreciated for everything they do, even if it's saying thank you for bothering to do your half of housework because that is still something extra they are doing for you. But it's good to understand you are benefitting from their oppression and not minimise it. A thing can be good for you and not mak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 04:57 PM |
| -1 | There is no real evidence men struggle more in getting sex/relationshipsTrue some of it is definitely man flu phenomenon of one of the genders simply being more fragile overall. And it's not the gender that was historically branded as fragile, that was switcheroo to conceal the truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 03:11 PM |
| 1 | There is no real evidence men struggle more in getting sex/relationshipsI agree that when we are talking about hardship it should be defined in what's minimum viable options for the person. We all know, even manosphere men have concept of it, that lot of men are as appealing to women as gay men are to straight men so it's pretty cruel to treat that as those women having options when their "whole wiring" is at odds with touching those men. It's not pride or deliberate insult and humiliating or oppressing a woman doesn't get rid of it, it's simply the result of being … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 02:54 PM |
| 2 | There is no real evidence men struggle more in getting sex/relationshipsI have nothing against Op. Pissing off bunch of men wasn't illegal the last time I checked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 02:44 PM |
| 2 | Women appreciate compliments, just not from guys who obviously want sex as a thank you.Ouch my bisexual self is feeling the sting here. Just because I'm not straight doesn't mean I don't understand value of good outfit choices or effort and money it takes to have your hair done | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 01:20 PM |
| 6 | There is no real evidence men struggle more in getting sex/relationshipsExcuse me, what? I assume you are trolling, have good go at it I won't ruin it for you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 12:54 PM |
| 2 | Solo travel is a completely different experience for average men and womenInstinct or not, the people who are in best position to not treat unknown men as "some dude" (insert certain tone of voice on the word "dude") are the other men. There's much less physical danger involved in simple chatting, and it makes a world of difference you aren't just ignored (plus, he isn't gonna grope you or SA you just for talking). You can then access if the person is safe and drop them if they aren't without getting violently assaulted like women who say no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 06:12 AM |
| 2 | Solo travel is a completely different experience for average men and womenExactly. Many women would love the freedom he has and would sign over their perceived privileges for it overnight. But he'd be surprised how much it sucks because it would essentially just be strangers wanting to hump his tight for their pleasure while avoiding touching his peen and no orgasms ever, with the caveat he has to cover his cup in every bar he goes or else he's drugged and raped within a week & lot of places are completely out of question for same reason and even then some of the dang… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 06:00 AM |
| 2 | Solo travel is a completely different experience for average men and womenWhy are men who are interested in talking to you "below" you? Why don't they count as people to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 05:30 AM |
| 4 | Solo travel is a completely different experience for average men and womenI love it how men routinely criticise women's tendency to value social cohesion and even brand it as stupidity even though it doesn't have any negative correlation with overall intelligence, but then when they get lonely and want to feel included and looked after suddenly women are supposedly "privileged" because other dudes treat them coldly or nonchalantly or they don't want to take part in pissing contests. It's almost like they don't want to put in the effort to provide other men the experie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 04:55 AM |
| 0 | Solo travel is a completely different experience for average men and womenI'm gonna go out for a limb and say that while it might be technically true, most people in Europe don't count Eastern Europe as part of "Europe" as a concept unless we are spesifically talking about "Eastern Europe". Americans might. But for an European if we discuss Europe we aren't talking about Russia and the like. It might be same continent because of technicalities but there's an invisible yet generally recognised line. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 04:46 AM |
| 3 | Solo travel is a completely different experience for average men and womenHe only needs to prove that because he doesn't want to socialise with other men. Women also run into problems if they resent other women and only approach men for company. There's no world where a man or a woman can preemptively judge and completely ignore their entire own gender as potential social prospects and not suffer for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 04:31 AM |
| 5 | Solo travel is a completely different experience for average men and womenYou are literally afraid of other men and refusing to approach them or even put yourself in their vicinity, while complaining about perks that women who are not afraid of other women get by approaching those women. Maybe you have your reasons to be scared of other guys but then also, you sound like you blame women for your problem instead of the guys you are literally afraid of. Even blaming guys in motels for it preemptively when you haven't even tried it sounds like overreaction on your part. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 04:13 AM |
| 0 | Do abusive men have good personalities?Simon from Detroit become human video game. I value "one for the group" and "helping people around me to be best versions of themselves they can be" mentality as well as recognising other people's emotional needs and tending to them swiftly. I don't like grandiose visible personalities, I like one who is in the background and sidelines but who is without fail there for their friends and family and who is creating a encouraging warm atmosphere for everyone and taking care everyone feels like you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 11:07 PM |
| – | Does Saying “Women Don’t Need Men Anymore” Imply That Men Were Mainly Valued for Providing Resources?I like men who can behave themselves and who are reliable same way women in my life are reliable. I don't like ones who constantly spew crap and are irresponsible and destructive, and who think being any other way is for women. It's complicated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 10:57 PM |
| – | Does Saying “Women Don’t Need Men Anymore” Imply That Men Were Mainly Valued for Providing Resources?If you had come across attractive (to you) man who has the social and emotional skills and level of cleanliness and care about his environment to be a homemaker ...but he failed his education for some reason that isn't just laziness and doesn't lead to being obtuse and uncivilized (for example, phobia of crowded places) and can't make much past minimum wage, would you have considered him as dating prospect despite knowing that his contributions are going to be emotional/social/home related rathe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 10:46 PM |
| – | Does Saying “Women Don’t Need Men Anymore” Imply That Men Were Mainly Valued for Providing Resources?I think the context gets like that because saying something like that in social media would be way too deep, that's reserved for heart to hearts with other women or very small company to hear because it's exposing and vulnerable and even women don't want to be that vulnerable. It's like wife guys don't advertise they are wife guys, you typically find your person first and then you confess thinking like this. For above reasons the subtext when most people talk isn't what you'd want love of your l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 10:23 PM |
| – | Does Saying “Women Don’t Need Men Anymore” Imply That Men Were Mainly Valued for Providing Resources?Yeah. And we wouldn't think that if we didn't hear that from those women, our grandma's, and what their mothers told them. It's the consequence of creating unequal society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 10:13 PM |
| 2 | Why do many women find it unacceptable if a man has paid for sex in the past, but are fine with a man who has slept with hundreds of women through regular dating?It's all of this for me. Most men don't engage in prostitution ethically, or even try to engage it in responsible way. They operate from assumption that the moment something is about sex only their dick matters, but there are people involved on the other side. They get caught up to their money only and forget other side of deal isn't like buying a bucket, or even cheapen it on purpose. If they were really only paying for sex it would be one thing but they tend to be paying for perceived right to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 10:48 PM |
| 2 | The attractive=asshole strawman that people here are starting to parrot meme needs to dieI haven't spesifically made choice to exclude them but since people who use money wrong in general inspire disgust in me, and I'm leftist, I am sure there's a limit after which my attraction plummets.. unless I can see them continuously investing in social causes in significant amount. But that's not likely to happen and if they are just trying to get richer I view it same as I would any hoarding behaviour. Also I tend to value certain understanding that life isn't cakewalk so if that's some per… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 09:43 PM |
| 1 | Women here keep doubting (or feigning ignorance) about the acceptability of virulent misandry in mainstream feminism, so here's a feminist YouTuber/Substacker/Podcaster who advocates forced vasectomies for young boysThere's kinda two possibilities here. Number one is that just like you missed the whole genre in video you started with was satire, you might be missing on or overreacting stuff that is reactionary or contextual. If you truly consider your friends good people you can't possibly believe they'd want world where you follow draconian laws - are those likely in the genre of venting because it could never become reality and they've seen women mistreated so much that they are blowing off steam. Or, num… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 07:40 PM |
| 1 | Women here keep doubting (or feigning ignorance) about the acceptability of virulent misandry in mainstream feminism, so here's a feminist YouTuber/Substacker/Podcaster who advocates forced vasectomies for young boysSchool aged girls your bros date are neither your friends nor great representation of feminist values. Wait you are out the bag and actually try to listen to feminist women who don't enrage you, algorithm will pick you ones who it knows will rub you wrong so you may need to ask for reference or Google for leftist feminists that aren't terfs ... else every single one will be whoever wins the short term award for annoying most people in general because of the algorithm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 07:28 PM |
| 1 | Women here keep doubting (or feigning ignorance) about the acceptability of virulent misandry in mainstream feminism, so here's a feminist YouTuber/Substacker/Podcaster who advocates forced vasectomies for young boysI guess lack of education in places like US is big explaining factor in how you guys come up with your "misandry" claims. This is satire. People in places with good education learn to read it and recognise it by about 14 or 15. I thought you were all just looking at fringe Tiktoks that exist for rage baits because that platform has no depth and encourages grifting on quick reactions... but apparently you can grossly misunderstand common genres of communication even when that's not the case. Wher… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 07:16 PM |
| 0 | Women here keep doubting (or feigning ignorance) about the acceptability of virulent misandry in mainstream feminism, so here's a feminist YouTuber/Substacker/Podcaster who advocates forced vasectomies for young boysDonating kidney or even some of your liver doesn't kill you, should you be forced to? Harvesting your organs after you are already dead doesn't kill you, should anyone have right to even if you and your family said no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 07:08 PM |
| 0 | Do Women Understand How They Help Power Red Pill/Manosphere Content?Then we agree in spirit behind because I also don't think people who I'd define true leftist are biphobic if I was doing that without having to consider US entire existence and believe their dems are left. I think with US screwing the equation if we define dems left then there's unfortunately plenty of biphobia. I understood you don't view it like that and I can see why. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 06:44 PM |
| -1 | Do Women Understand How They Help Power Red Pill/Manosphere Content?You are correct I defined them left because they are dems. But you have to understand from my view point almost all Americans are conservative so if I don't then US has practically no left and we are talking about 300 million internet users here so defining them all conservative will basically define most internet spaces conservative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 06:34 PM |
| 3 | Do Women Understand How They Help Power Red Pill/Manosphere Content?I hate saying this, because I don't think it's majority of leftist women, but I used to hang out in ex twitter with some women who played Sims or Wow or dragon age. This was all before Elon ruined it. I had big community of them and they were all left as far as I know, and I did have to unfollow multiple of them because over the years biphobic views reared their heads and as someone who is bi I'm not comfortable hearing that shit. This was only fraction of women I regularly interacted with but t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 06:28 PM |
| 3 | Do Women Understand How They Help Power Red Pill/Manosphere Content?Yep nobody wants to date someone who posts "girl.." with their mascara flowing with tears across their cheeks every other day, who are passive aggressive and petty, always in drama and no relevant life skills. Well, some men might be desperate enough but if they have equivalent woman who is not a loser they aren't picking the diva over her. There's certain kind of brand of self loathing stupidity and self destruction that's more traditionally seen in women because men have traditionally more pow… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Do Women Understand How They Help Power Red Pill/Manosphere Content?That's conservative mentality in nutshell though. Lot of it centres around wanting to do the things "the old way" because of way is predictable and has benefits you are used to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Men aren't more critical of women ,we are just treating you equally and you don't like itNo there isn't. Big brother or other reality TV crap isn't representative of most healthy women out there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 05:14 PM |
| 3 | Men aren't more critical of women ,we are just treating you equally and you don't like itIn things that are actually irrelevant maybe, like getting carjacked sure. But if a man got beaten to bloody pulp you aren't going to march to ICU and lead with "what were you wearing". Rape is the latter category, in fact you constantly see number of women (not all of them but significant number) that would rather die. Victim blaming fails to put it in latter category. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 04:44 PM |
| 1 | If a Straight Men's Attitudes Towards Other Men Were Like Most Women's Attitudes Towards Other Women, People Would Conclude the Man is Gay (or Bisexual)If it seemed hot to you then you didn't really see it as innocent. You just thought you could benefit from someone else's sexuality, that you were aware of if hot crossed your mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 12:26 AM |
| 2 | If a Straight Men's Attitudes Towards Other Men Were Like Most Women's Attitudes Towards Other Women, People Would Conclude the Man is Gay (or Bisexual)It makes me think how some people seem to attract bisexual people in general, maybe op is one of the people whom for whatever reason appeals to bisexual women. That being said I'm a bisexual woman and not only can I not imagine single friendship where we'd take showers together (or know of any friendship like that among women), I'm actually more uncomfortable rather than more comfortable with letting women I'm friends with sit on my lap. I saw some women do it when we were younger but they were … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 12:15 AM |
| 1 | Men Care Way Too Much About Female ValidationSex work under capitalism has a lot of issues that need to be looked into, and because of those links to things like survival lot of it is actually problematic. But on 1:1 level in the best case where she's not going to starve and has other jobs available that she can do for actual living, don't you think a woman who says yes to sex has a right to say yes for whatever reason she wants to even if the reason is "this person gives me money"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 12:10 AM |
| 4 | "Liberal feminism" subsidizes extremism, claiming that feminism wants equality is fraudulent, and if you associate all men with violence, you are hypocriticalAlso whole poisonous bag of M&Ms thing can be (and to my experience usually is) about personal risk analysis when women are trying to defend their personal life choices that shouldn't be under scrutiny in the first place. If it's about that it has no connection to trying to silence or dismiss anyone else, except if that person vehemently opposes what you have decided to do to stay safe for no real reason. It's usually not "let's take random guy from the street and attack him pre-emptively just i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 05:53 PM |
| – | The lower birth rate in places like Sweden is good. Psychologically unhealthy individuals shouldn't have children.Bingo. I think you hit nail on the head. I've had these same thoughts. If we were actually underpopulated let alone in crisis, we'd worship the ground under feet of all mothers and fathers and everyone who is willing to put in effort to raise children, and nobody would be complaining about "someone else's kids" or about being expected to participate in society and pay some money for the next generation. Complaints about paying persist because those additional kids aren't actually our future that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 11:19 AM |
| – | The lower birth rate in places like Sweden is good. Psychologically unhealthy individuals shouldn't have children.One could argue that the genuine desire for the children that follow the act of procreating (something humans also feel) is a version of healthy human instincts because we have always been aware of the connection so it has always helped us if we actually want the end result. Some folk that weren't fit to that same degree just got dragged along for the ride until now because sometimes sex instincts did the job without that additional motivation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 11:10 AM |
| – | The lower birth rate in places like Sweden is good. Psychologically unhealthy individuals shouldn't have children.It's economically viable because you get large chunk of your income compensated. Not necessarily economically comfortable but there's nothing preventing taking the leave at same time. But, if the problem is already "everything that happens to someone else than me doesn't really exist or if it does it wasn't really that hard" then uneven workload is typically only going to get worse if both halfs of couple are taking leave at the same time because then no baby related work "actually exists" it ju… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 10:56 AM |
| 6 | There's nothing morally wrong with the af/bb strategy.I wasn't telling you that you should take something that is worse than being alone over being alone. I don't tell that to anybody. I was quite frankly simply asking you why you assume every relationship like that will be abusive. Why it's an automatic that (non abusive) woman who wants a betabux will abuse their betabux? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 10:36 AM |
| 2 | There's nothing morally wrong with the af/bb strategy.And how does it follow Ops logic that you are being abused in scenario like that. If we are going to assume every woman who changes priorities actually betabuxes a guy wouldn't it make sense she picks one she at least likes? So why the jump to assuming it's going to be abusive? Not that I disagree alone is better if you are being put down or hurt in some way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 10:21 AM |
| 1 | There's nothing morally wrong with the af/bb strategy.Neither do I but I'm arguing with them for fun because it's always hilarious to see what brain fart pops up next when you point out obvious flaws in their reasoning. One can argue in hypotheticals that they don't believe in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 10:17 AM |
| 3 | There's nothing morally wrong with the af/bb strategy.Nope. If you are going to look for sex from more women than one why shouldn't she also look for provisions from more men than one? Either you are the only business partners to each other in this exchange or it's uneven. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 10:13 AM |
| -1 | There's nothing morally wrong with the af/bb strategy.That's fair but every relationship bases on being able to make each others lives better in some way, so why is relationship that has high chance to rise that guys quality of life one where he's the victim and not all the other ones in his life where there is also give and take dynamic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 10:07 AM |
| 4 | There's nothing morally wrong with the af/bb strategy.As long as she also gets to cheat on you. If you want monogamy you have to provide monogamy, regardless of what else is exchanged. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 09:53 AM |
| 2 | There's nothing morally wrong with the af/bb strategy.There are many more reasons why Billy might not want to have that conversation. Let's assume Billy knows that Suzie has more than likely slept through football team because it makes sense considering combination of her personality and looks (decent looks, likes sex a lot and is adventurous, extroverted) and Billy isn't idiot. Suzie starting to go on about all her past lovers adds nothing useful to the conversation and it just proves she's still thinking about all those men. Whileas if she shuts … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 09:50 AM |
| -2 | There's nothing morally wrong with the af/bb strategy.Why would the woman in this scenario automatically hate her partner? It really sounds like you guys are just scared and trying to justify your fears so that you seem less scared to yourself. Either that or you know you are bad partners and actually have reason to fear but don't want to attribute the fear on the real reasons it really stems from. People tend to like people who are net positive in their lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 09:35 AM |
| 0 | If women treat sex as a reward, men should treat his money as a reward.I honestly don't even think women whose men actually can afford to pay them for another full time job are always averse to it. Some might be because we all value our freetime differently but I bet there are a lot of women who gladly do the bangmaiding if it means they can spend on lavish vacations, spa, vehicles, hobbies etc for the actual monetary worth of extra duties. Issue is most men who want it can't afford it, and aren't honest upfront so that women who rather keep their freetime can opt … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 01:25 AM |
| 3 | If women treat sex as a reward, men should treat his money as a reward.And a common cause of filing is he cheated, so it's the same thing. He just didn't bother to fill up the paperwork. Better have your own money than be required to stay in that humiliation ritual as a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 01:16 AM |
| 1 | If women treat sex as a reward, men should treat his money as a reward.Okay so we are earning the same and if I'm a good partner I get to spend like 75% of the money cause I get to spend mine and then half of his? Sounds good to me. And during the times I'm being bad partner I still spend 50% because it's my money. Sure sign me up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 01:01 AM |
| 6 | 🔵BP/Feminism pushes for equality in all aspects of society, EXCEPT dating, (where it arguably matters the most), shows that its destructive for societyThat sounds like you think people will accept inhumane solutions you are proposing if you can somehow make them admit there is a problem. Because if your solutions were actually acceptable in the first place, you could start from them. FYI, it doesn't work like that. Population decline is a serious problem but it's not a serious enough problem to overwrite anyone's right to safety, which body autonomy is inherent part of. Existing humans right to not suffer horribly will always overwrite hypothe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 06:04 AM |
| 1 | 🔵BP/Feminism pushes for equality in all aspects of society, EXCEPT dating, (where it arguably matters the most), shows that its destructive for societyI agree people not dating and forming families is a crisis. But also, there really really isn't discussion to be had about it that goes anywhere good until there are solutions that we are ready for. It's my belief we do have solutions that embrace rather than threaten anyone's autonomy, but because they all require one to actually prioritise existence of next generation over keeping the life as we are used to it, I don't believe people are ready to look at it like I do. Not even women. It requir… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 03:04 AM |
| 3 | Radicalization of men is only way the change will occur.No they are not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 02:56 AM |
| 7 | Radicalization of men is only way the change will occur.In my mind it's not "we don't give fuck about men's problems" if we say we are focusing on womens. In my mind that's more akin to a situation where women's day is celebrated in particular social group because women of the group are organising it, but men's day isn't because men each "don't know how" or "are busy" or "not good with this kind of thing". Where the problem isn't that if men organised to celebrate themselves that women would stop them and block it, or not be supportive of it. Or that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 02:10 AM |
| 1 | You cannot convince me that most men deserve women's submissionI think we may have slight disagreement because I don't think "men are predators" is an view that can only exist in patriarchal mindset. The mindset occurs if the next step is "therefore we need benevolent protector of father or husband to protect women from other men". For example thinking there should be publicly funded law enforcement to protect people from violence isn't inherently patriarchal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 01:56 AM |
| 13 | Radicalization of men is only way the change will occur.Kamala would have been less socially detrimental so even if she didn't spesifically embrace men as a demographic her presidency would have helped them compared to Trump. Being in poverty without medical aid and food stamps won't help low income men or all the boys that were only eating during critical developmental years because their mother was receiving food stamps. It won't help all the government workers who are men who got laid off to do better at life, lot of them were veterans. Do you thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 01:34 AM |
| 6 | Radicalization of men is only way the change will occur.They want women to do the work of figuring out their life problems "or else". If they wanted political support like women then they would see the effort. This akin to toddler screaming and trying to destroy places until their mom figures out if they are dressed too hot or too cold or are too hungry or too tired. That's how they view women, collectively we are supposed to be their mom "or else". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 01:13 AM |
| 3 | Why do women on social media say that ghosting is safer?Depending on the guy they will respond hearing a no the same as they would being punched in the face, as in they take it as an active act of disrespect towards them and respond with rage they would if you did something really really outrageous. Sure there is no guarantee that ghosting them will go over any better but if you have experienced a guy flying into dangerous rage over hearing "no" couple of times it makes sense you don't want to press the rage trigger. I don't think being on the distan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 01:04 AM |
| 0 | You cannot convince me that most men deserve women's submissionI feel like we have more heteronormative and less heteronormative people in this sense. I sometimes wonder if me lacking the desire to look him up and not even really caring about if he's actually more stupid than me is because of nature or nurture. I grew up in household where my mom was the powerhouse in both book smarts and know how, there's nothing that woman cannot do. Okay, she did ask my dad to remove spiders sometimes but that's about it, even all handiwork was her. My dad in the meanwhi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 06:21 PM |
| 1 | You cannot convince me that most men deserve women's submissionYeah I actually understood it and agree with it. And expecting women to hold onto their end of bargain and not use being housewife as an excuse to not do ones best for family isn't bad. I actually think that's part of respecting women as equals who should in fact contribute. As long as you value their contributions and listen to them that's a great thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 06:08 PM |
| 2 | You cannot convince me that most men deserve women's submissionI assume you started from assumption she's stay at home spouse. If that's true then cooking dinner is the minimum. If both work though, then whoever gets home first starts it and partner who arrives later helps and does dishes. I also think in good relationship both partners view their partner as desirable and want their best. I think actual sex as result of that desirability is more complicated though. If it's always a blow job for him and nothing for her, it could get grating to lot of people … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 05:44 PM |
| 5 | You cannot convince me that most men deserve women's submissionNo it makes sense. If you are supposed to put your partner on special pedestal and act around the clock like he's better than you, then he better actually be better than you. Otherwise how grating it would be. I'd rather not act like that in the first place but if I had to then definitely I'd rather defer to someone who is more capable than me than a person who is equal or even sometimes worse but that I have to pretend is better. That would amp up how draining it is x10000 because he is actuall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 05:27 PM |
| 10 | You cannot convince me that most men deserve women's submissionAll people in society need and deserve some protection, that is pretty much basis of social contract. The issue with patriarchy is that the "protection" is done from unreasonable and usually incorrect gender expectations and roles. For example most fathers may mean well but many peoples father's are insecure, fearful and ruled by their emotions which creates tyranny and suppression and overall results in worse life for people they are ruling over. It is essential that both sons and daughters gai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 05:15 PM |
| 4 | You cannot convince me that most men deserve women's submissionNo, deserving is wrong word for it because nobody is owed it. But at least those men are worthy of it. Replacing deserving with worthy I can see the logic and I even agree. I do not think women should be required to be submissive but if we are viewing things in that sort of framework then man not being half worth it because he is actually less emotionally stable and thinks about other people around him less than his wife destroys whole system even in theory. Many married men will even admit lot … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 04:56 PM |
| 5 | Men have so it so easyMost women want kind man too and we still deal with all the additional crap on top. Can't even know if person we are dealing with likes us or hates us because we can count on 90% of people to be willing to manipulate us, imagine trying to constantly gauge that.. because you can't trust it if someone wants to spend time with you or even if they seem to enjoy themselves because they could still hate you. Kind people are rare even without everyone else trying to pose as one because somehow it's soc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 04:47 PM |
| – | Have you (as woman as a group) more influence on the Dating market then you think?Damn you have low bar, I can't wait to see how thrilled PPD men are to hear that :'D | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 04:18 AM |
| – | Have you (as woman as a group) more influence on the Dating market then you think?I read some threads about (straight) trans guys trying to date women, because I'm a person who will stick their nose to anything and everything for no reason (as evidenced by me being in PPD). It's one of the least popular groups of men when you take surveys about what women want, or don't want in this case. So I assumed it must be madness trying to date women who aren't also something along LGBT lines. I assumed they were all alone or with bi or trans women, because at that time like 99,9% of w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 04:09 AM |
| 1 | Have you (as woman as a group) more influence on the Dating market then you think?I think I accidentally made someone shave their beard (well, a resemblance of it) when I was 16. I wasn't shitting on his beard or even talking about him. I was talking to someone else and I just said that I didn't like beards for whatever stupid reason person that young might discuss things that are unnecessary to say (I think discussion was about her boyfriends shaving habits). I hope next day when he showed up without it was a coincidence. I thought he was kidding at my cost because he always… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 03:50 AM |
| 1 | Do you have any kinks that do not involve your partner being in discomfort or pain?I agree. If it's "accept me and my body because I love to feel accepted" thing it's different. If it's some version of cheapening ones partner it's completely another thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 03:26 AM |
| 1 | Do you have any kinks that do not involve your partner being in discomfort or pain?I think anything that has very high chance to turn you on and that you are into even if it's the tamest most uninteresting thing qualifies. As long as it's sexually turned on and not entirely "this person was nice to me so I felt more positive about sex". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 03:13 AM |
| 1 | Do you have any kinks that do not involve your partner being in discomfort or pain?That actually sounds fun. I can't imagine she's too unhappy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 03:03 AM |
| 2 | What do you want to be valued for?Okay honestly I can follow up with your logic because in theory someone could like everything about you and hate having anything to do with your plumbing. Sure it can also happen they like everything about you and that makes them like the plumbing. But how do you tell these two apart with scientific certainty? They could look alike if she's worlds best actress and really cares about convincing you. Likely you could tell but what if you can't. So if you want to be sure sure, not just "trust peopl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 01:31 AM |
| 1 | What do you want to be valued for?Me. I'm taking that bet. That's how I plan to make it to early retirement | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 01:15 AM |
| 6 | If you think “husband material” is an insult so is “wifey material”Except they do. They aren't writing those posts about guys they don't like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 12:38 AM |
| 0 | If you think “husband material” is an insult so is “wifey material”Maybe they don't but that doesn't change that the thinking that corners them into scenario where every outcome justifies hating women (even one that chose you for life) is misogynist thinking. The point isn't she should date the misogynist who goes on about how he should be hookup material, point is pointing out that guy is inherently misogynist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 12:30 AM |
| 4 | If red flags are so easy to spot, then there's no need for prenups and paternity testsWomen who are visibly mean to other women and treat other women like shit also get plenty of dates with the extremely predictable result they treat him like shit eventually because that's just how they treat people. Yet you hear men whine about end result and even try to rationalise going for those women. I don't see how him thinking he was special exception to rule because of his gender is any different from women who are going for bad boys thinking they are different, in both cases you believe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 12:16 AM |
| 34 | If red flags are so easy to spot, then there's no need for prenups and paternity testsAnd ignoring how much men love borderline personality disorder women (until they don't) because they too make you feel very special in the beginning. Also, lot of successful narc women, it just gets pinned on "but he gone for her loooooks not her personality" while they still complain about outcome and blame women for it (looks are not even separate from narsissm on related note, it's well known narcs work more on improving them). But that doesn't count because see, he was making completely rAtI… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 11:51 PM |
| 1 | If you think “husband material” is an insult so is “wifey material”Okay but nothing she does is ever good enough, he will be upset no matter what and rage about women being awful in internet with above logic. Sounds a lot like issue is persistent misogyny in men who say that since every outcome somehow ends with an excuse to hate women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 11:44 PM |
| 12 | If red flags are so easy to spot, then there's no need for prenups and paternity testsThen why do men need prenups and paternity tests. With same logic you should be able to ask women about whoever you are dating and that should clear whole thing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 11:37 PM |
| 1 | If you think “husband material” is an insult so is “wifey material”Okay but most women don't strip their clothes on the sight of a guy so for like 60%-80% that means he'll never truly be "hot enough" because they don't roll like that and he just hates how they work | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 12:42 PM |
| 14 | If you think “husband material” is an insult so is “wifey material”That's exactly how lot of women think. Plenty out there that talk about waiting just so they aren't seen easy. If you have ever opened a singular woman oriented advise forum you'll easily find dozen threads that are someone asking "how much should I wait" because they want to sleep with the guy but feel like they'll be seen easy and they view him as a serious prospect so they are counting dates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 12:38 PM |
| -1 | If you think “husband material” is an insult so is “wifey material”That too is stupid because plenty of women out there who just don't like nor want hookups, so should they forgo sex for the rest of their life just because no man could possibly feel "really" desired by them. It just sounds like one hates women, or at least majority of them, for being "too much work". Also that they simply hate female libido. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 12:27 PM |
| 1 | Sex is a reward (and men know it)My agreement or disagreement with you depends on what extent one practices this. If that means they will be performing sex robotically based on reward system or controlling their partners with it when disagreements happen I don't like it. For example if there's an argument about hobby equipment that's blocking the entrance room but she still wants sex when night comes, she should not tell him no just to control the argument in her favour because that's controlling. If it just means horny woman w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 03:56 AM |
| 5 | The idea that men enjoy the chase is completely made up.I'm posting here because I agree for most part people are probably not enjoying any of that hassle. I think it's like how some people play hot and cold or some other stupid manipulative game on other people and then because their target gets manipulated (who'd have thought) they conclude they must "like" it "because it worked". The logic is one sided "because this worked for me it must have been pleasant for you" even if you actually put person through significant hardship. Prolonged chasing wor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 08:17 AM |
| – | How did you acquire your GF / wife / casual relationship? (or your last one)Hopefully not before she'd got her coffee | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 08:09 AM |
| – | Would you consider a man entitled for wanting a romantic partner?Fair. Blaming the world or life in general for being unfair is different from being hateful and blaming other people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 04:10 AM |
| 3 | Orgasm gap is not caused by men, its caused by women because they don’t close the gap of effort gapNo they aren't. Most women don't orgasm from penetrative sex. The best positions work for small minority that orgasms from being penetrated to improve rate they orgasm in but it isn't the main way women orgasm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 07:48 PM |
| 15 | Orgasm gap is not caused by men, its caused by women because they don’t close the gap of effort gapMost of the women don't orgasm from being on the top that's porn brain thinking. Most women need clitoral stimulation so if she was really focusing on HER orgasm that whole time like you suggest, sex would just involve him watching as she pleasures herself with something that offers clitoral stimulation, not her cowgirling because that won't even help vast majority of women in any way. Do you think that would be fun, just watching as she uses magic wand next to you? That's the version of sex you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 12:07 PM |
| 10 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.That's it, clear and concise. It's definitely bigger embarrassment for a girl to be wanted by no one, but it's not failure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 05:53 AM |
| 1 | There's a difference between "Women Are Wonderful" bias and "Women should be wonderful to me" bias.And what's best about it it's maintainable without contact, which further reduces odds you miss step and trigger someone. Neutral is the safest when ones main priority is just keeping everyone else around, even the passerby, from trying to guess if they are a threat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 01:59 AM |
| 2 | I am pretty sure the women have a misunderstanding about pornography.I agree with the general sentiment that you should hold onto your own standards but I think if it manifests in trying to control ones partner rather than in finding a partner that's already compatible, it becomes control rather than boundary. Sure you can let people who you have just started seeing or are in talking stages with know you don't want relationship with person with certain habits and let them choose can they live with it or not, but you can't make it an ongoing endless battle in exis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 01:27 AM |
| 2 | I am pretty sure the women have a misunderstanding about pornography.Yeah specific porn tropes usually feature a certain type of woman. And I think average porn user is probably just looking to get the job done so they can go sleep or whatever so the priority is probably in avoiding turn offs rather than in searching for ones perfect combo of turn ons | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 01:21 AM |
| – | How important is sex?Virtual reality is good. It's pretty stupid honestly that we continue to be defined by houses and cars and whatever and that our existence sometimes gets reduced to stuff that's just.. well, stuff. I think people already connect better in virtual realities anyways so I think it would even help with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 04:20 AM |
| – | How important is sex?So basically just be less harsh and remember it's cutting to their ego | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 04:16 AM |
| – | How important is sex?I guess that's the difference. I turn it on or off based on whether there's sex involved and anything else would feel like I'm barking wrong tree so that's why I don't think it's that different. For me marriage would just make it family relationship, in addition to being friendship and sex. But if romantic component (that for me follows sex, logically in my opinion) gets taken out family component can still stay. I never said I'd kick him out of the house we call home or leave myself, or that I'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 04:10 AM |
| – | How important is sex?I might "stay" in a sense that I wouldn't change legal or housing arrangements that we are comfortable with for an accident that he couldn't do anything about but I just can't see how is he my romantic partner after that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 04:04 AM |
| – | How important is sex?I'm the exact same way. I think it's not weird at all. After all if you walk past same shop couple of times but it's never open you lose interest, or if you thought it sold ice cream but it's instead sushi you start seeing it as a sushi place and simply don't think about ice cream when you pass it. It would be dumb to not adjust. If a place used to also sell icecream I guess I'd almost order ice cream couple of times but eventually I'd come to regard it as another sushi place because I can't hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 03:49 AM |
| – | How important is sex?I don't claim to love him more than a friend. That would be really shitty comparison to make because no person in my life is meaningless just because I'm having sex with someone else. Ten years of supporting me through shit and being reliable doesn't turn worthless (or less worth!) just because I'm not fucking the person. If it did, that is what would be depressing. I love him in a different way because he is my sex partner in addition of being a friend which tends to lead to family which in tur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 03:42 AM |
| – | How important is sex?If we could correctly identify the people who are struggling to date, I think we could maybe send them to a government funded camp where they get classes on maximizing their looks like what hairstyle and clothing work for different body types, get an exercise regime tailored for them, study basic social etiquette, study conflict resolution, difference in constructive criticism and just picking on someone etc. Maybe how to approach, take rejection and de-escalate after it, seeing as fearing being… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 03:16 AM |
| – | How important is sex?Did it actually happen to you or is it what you fear would happen? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 03:05 AM |
| – | How important is sex?That may be a bit too hippie to resonate with most folk here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 03:03 AM |
| – | How important is sex?If it could become conscious we would run into same problem though because then we would need to give it a right to reject the undesirable men if it wants to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 02:58 AM |
| – | How important is sex?That might be true but do you really think women would date men if they couldn't have sex with them? Because I don't. When heterosexual women say orientation isn't a choice they mean what you do but in reverse | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 02:56 AM |
| – | How important is sex?You don't survive without housing and healthcare. And the main reason education should be covered isn't social contract or charity like it's for survival needs, it's that economy benefits when there's educated workforce to run it so not covering it would be like not paving any roads in your country. It's as "unfair" to impose tax on companies for keeping people in environments they operate in educated than it's to impose one on them for maintaining the roads - so not unfair at all. You can make … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 02:36 AM |
| – | How important is sex?I think there's a lot of defensiveness going on that gets misinterpret as bootstraps message. Mostly the obvious: there's no way to address the problem that doesn't involve encouraging the sexless person to improve. We could give it condolences but I doubt it really helps because empathy tends to get interpret pity in situations like this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 02:30 AM |
| – | How important is sex?For me, he'd become a friend that for a little while I see as more than a friend despite that he actually isn't, because my brain wouldn't catch up fast enough to the fact we are no longer a couple. In the meantime I'd probably still keep daydreaming about having sex with him until it finally sinks in for me that I can't and that our romantic relationship is over. It wouldn't stop him being important even after my brain eventually catches up and updates him from romance to friend because friends… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 02:19 AM |
| – | How important is sex?Safety nets are basic function of functional society. This is because you aren't supposed to starve, freeze, get fatal infection or face preventable danger in civilised society. If you don't like that, move into a jungle with guys who hate civilisation as much as you do. Guarantee they aren't going to be the safest people to reside with but you get what you deserve if you don't value living with normal humans who think social contract is a thing of value. Everywhere else we value human life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 02:02 AM |
| – | How important is sex?Yes. Personally I don't think it's as important as housing because humans need shelter to survive. Or healthcare, for the same reason. But if someone wants to argue it's important for their sanity, and seems like non-insignificant number of people says that, then I'm willing to put it to some of the following tiers of needs. The problem is 100% that there's no way to address it without hurting someone in the process. Generally if there's a viable solution that improves large number of people's l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 01:53 AM |
| – | Why do many men find a clumsy, socially awkward, maladjusted woman acceptable for casual sex, but women don’t?You literally call women being attracted to some men and not other men "ruthless and despicable". Can you hear yourself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 06:28 PM |
| – | Why do many men find a clumsy, socially awkward, maladjusted woman acceptable for casual sex, but women don’t?I actually agree with you at least for what you typed just now. A desirable man, even a desirable man she's "in love with" and is convinced is her "soulmate" because he has enough social skills to create and maintain connections with other people is still, in the end of the day, a man. He's no less dangerous. And lot of women get way way too naive about it when the connection has been established and she feels some kind of way about him. If women didn't assume that connection they are feeling me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 06:20 PM |
| – | Why do many men find a clumsy, socially awkward, maladjusted woman acceptable for casual sex, but women don’t?Nope, most of the time women get STDs it's not because they slept with guy who has good luck with women. It's because they slept with a loser who is desperate enough to also jump at any other opportunity for sex no matter the context and risks involved, and do it unprotected just so they can squeeze that little bit of extra validation out of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 06:06 PM |
| – | Why do many men find a clumsy, socially awkward, maladjusted woman acceptable for casual sex, but women don’t?I agree completely. If you know someone you know where they were coming from with something slightly awkward so it doesn't necessarily ruin whole vibe but if you are having casual sex then you don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 06:02 PM |
| – | Why do many men find a clumsy, socially awkward, maladjusted woman acceptable for casual sex, but women don’t?No. Anyone can learn it. Ones gender just affects how likely it's that they got familiar with it either as a child or later in life. But it's not some mythical witchcraft that you need to be woman to practice. Saying men can't do it would be like saying women can't change wheels or hold a hammer, in both genders it's about whether it has occurred to the person to want to learn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 05:55 PM |
| – | Why do many men find a clumsy, socially awkward, maladjusted woman acceptable for casual sex, but women don’t?I think you are going to get a statistical average of women performing better in this skill, but I think it's like most differences and that gender isn't the only or even necessarily the biggest predictor of it. It's traditionally women's skill because traditionally they have been expected to manage the emotional atmosphere in the house, including dealing with both her own and their partners moods and getting to the bottom of his problems for him. That shows in averages. But ultimately it's like… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 05:51 PM |
| – | Why do many men find a clumsy, socially awkward, maladjusted woman acceptable for casual sex, but women don’t?It wouldn't though. Men will always compete in sexual conquest, the competition just moves into next level when they think they have ticked off the previous one. Guys who have never had sex think it's cure it all but it actually doesn't do jack shit about hierarchy driven rage on it's own if they are the underdog and if they are coping with it poorly. The only way to actually placate the underdogs (that aren't dealing well with being underdog) is throwing women under bus completely and assigning… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 05:14 PM |
| – | Why do many men find a clumsy, socially awkward, maladjusted woman acceptable for casual sex, but women don’t?The only super high body count woman I know well enough to say for certain is just fearless, plain and simple. It's not even just in that regard or I would doubt it, but she's possibly the least neurotic most brave person I've ever met including all the men. She's always good mood and radiates confidence, comes out unfazed from anything life throws her and doesn't seem to think about it more than five seconds later or at all, and she's wildly successful in all fields of life. The other two I don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 05:03 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: Is attraction fixed, or does it adapt to what’s available?It depends what version of attraction we are talking about because even sexual attraction has some layers. Imo there's the base layer that's invisible to most people most of the time and rarely experienced because just like our actual need for food over preferences it only surfaces in certain circumstance. I think that level defines the absolute rock bottom we are capable of being attracted to but usually we don't notice it (I think born men and women despite what men like to claim) because lot … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 03:27 AM |
| 8 | How often do you want to go on dates in a month?I think it's potato vs potato honestly. Either case we are women who don't think we need to actually fight over stuff that we argue about in PPD because we have figured it out one way or another. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 03:01 AM |
| 7 | How often do you want to go on dates in a month?Lol you had me at that. If anything I'm varyingly either the main provider or an equal participant in my relationships. More commonly equal but I have dated down my income bracket at times. My family does not have women who don't work outside home (and earn while doing that) not even in my grandparents generation. So quite possibly even though I answered I'm unable to truly understand gen Z housewife wannabe mindset with all of the intricacies of what they want from their men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 02:55 AM |
| 3 | How often do you want to go on dates in a month?I agree with this. I also replied my expectations are getting special attention once a month and having functional partnership outside of it. All of the good relationships I know about in real life (which are very few in the first place) have undergone a transition from constant wining and dining into cheaper outings that are more practical for the couple. The point is your attention is on your partner and that they feel important, not the $$. I live under impression lot of women are wine and di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 02:45 AM |
| 3 | How often do you want to go on dates in a month?I don't personally care about expensive dates as much as I care finding care and effort for each other. I think expensive dates are one way to message "you are important" through actions but it's not the only way. That being said, having my partner focus solely on me once a month (while maintaining decent behaviour rest of the month) would certainly be more than enough for me so even though I can't answer for other women I'm going to say it sounds good. I don't think I'd even put the bar in week… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 02:22 AM |
| 1 | Red pill isn't as manipulative as I thoughtI don't mind core tenets of redpill. I do dislike most redpillers because they are misogynist, hateful, do not maintain tenets of democracy or acknowledge things almost everyone in society does that whole thing bases on or benefits they are themselves enjoying because of that and would most likely be dead or even more miserable without, and because they are irrational emotional and destructive and because above all they are lazy in a way that I don't tolerate from either men or women. They are t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 02:03 AM |
| 5 | Women have unintentionally made the decent men leave the dating poolRespectfully, I read it and I see where you are coming from but I don't think women approaching is going to work in practice because women are way too happy to spend long stretches of time without men even if they are somewhat open to possibility. I understand it's not that every guy wants to approach either but there's larger selection of things (most) men value that they can glean from a woman without knowing her well that they can use as some sort of motivation to approach. I think solution f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/26 12:59 AM |
| 8 | Women have unintentionally made the decent men leave the dating poolEspecially if it's women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/26 12:41 AM |
| 6 | Women have unintentionally made the decent men leave the dating poolExactly. If they did not think women are either some immutable goddesses or evil witches, they would not get scared of and over generalise every single thing women say. We are just people. We speak from our view point a lot, we are not there to provide anyone "fail free" guide to life. I understand overthinking but truth is if you take group of people and instead of trying to understand where they are coming from you treat every word out of their mouth like it came from bible, it leads nowhere s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/26 12:37 AM |
| 48 | Women have unintentionally made the decent men leave the dating poolThat problem is much larger than the contributions of women you are blaming for it. It's actually perfectly reasonable to not want to be constantly approached anywhere and everywhere you go. It's reasonable to not want to be on the market 24/7. The real problem is everyone is busy with their lives and acceptable venues for meeting people barely exist. Even social life exists less because there are rivals for it that can be accomplished by holing up. So in most situations there's hardly any peopl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 11:07 PM |
| 3 | Are men justified in hating women?He should report someone breaking law about equality at his work place, not try to convince me that misandry is a thing. One of those is much more productive than the other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 09:19 PM |
| 5 | Are men justified in hating women?Also, if almost every single of your grandparents fathers used his power to abuse women in the family in some way, even ones that were occasionally kind to their daughters, how are we supposed to know that the current generation of men is different and less self centred than all the previous ones? Those men weren't monsters either, they actually had multiple sides to their personality except that they all abused "their women" so just because you look like normal person to us doesn't mean that we… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 08:48 PM |
| 2 | Are men justified in hating women?That man should report it to HR and possibly governing bodies. Law is law and if law says you aren't allowed to discriminate against someone based on gender, then you aren't. I hope that if this is some dumb genZ woman unable to distinguish workplace (where people including that man go to earn living) from her Tiktok, someone in there can speak her some sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 08:15 PM |
| 6 | Are men justified in hating women?What does hating "equally" mean though? Does it mean you stop giving crap if women die because they were trying to birth next generation of citizens and something went wrong but they can't abort the pregnancy when it's still safe? Because if it does you have already by far exceeded any amount of hatred even those women have for men. Equivalent hatred would be women who are majority of blood bank contributors refusing to contribute to blood banks until they can restrict the donation from being us… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 07:48 PM |
| 4 | Are men justified in hating women?Not even targeting other people's human rights right? Because we are now talking about actual equivalent to women's hate of men that at it's worst pertains leaving men alone, right? Answer to that question defines whether it's justified or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 07:42 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualEven if somehow it was "jUsT bEcAuSe wOmEn cAnT cAuSe dAmAgE bRuH" when they certainly can, how would it change the reality that you are still going to be the partner that ends up with broken bones or ends up dead the moment something goes wrong? What if it's true she was drunk and yelling at him, does she deserve to die for it while equivalent man wouldn't? Does it mean that getting together with her murderer was worth it for her? It's not even true. Women are fully capable of shooting their pa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 07:05 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualEven if they go on same number of dates when you count all the dates women gone on and all the dates men gone on together, it still doesn't mean that if majority of women are passive and doing none of it while men are more active and thus rotate same minority of women between them , it can't occur that you get average guy who is going on more dates than average woman because average of both genders is whatever is true for most women or most men rather than their genders average date number. Thos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 06:37 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualMen and women are probably not fundamentally different to a degree that would matter for this topic. But I think men are allowed to and even encouraged to project their bad feelings outwards in form of causing destruction and that shows in the outcome so it's not directly comparable. Nodana listed some of ways women get hurt to a point where many would rather choose death, but they still don't measure up in the amount of destruction inflicted upon world so I don't think we should take it as proo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 06:10 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualI was just thinking "finally op managed to put together three sentences without accusing women for something tone deaf that shows he doesn't even listen to women" and then I realised you are not Op but someone else. I can get behind point that being invisible and excluded from something other people are doing tends to be massive hardship to humans. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 06:01 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualI just imagined you wearing a hat that makes your head look like a knob, nose red and little bit ashy from the campfire, dressed in baggy army green or brown clothing and wondering "hmm wonder why every man I talk with immediately says he's taken". Probably not the reality but thank you for the laugh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 05:51 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualAnd it still doesn't mean survey that asks them about going on dates is necessarily inaccurate because we are talking about dates rather than getting laid here. A guy could be going on 100 dates and doubt he'd tell about it to friends to brag unless those dates included sex. A woman could be going on 30 a month and she wouldn't hesitate to laugh about it with her friends because it doesn't make her slut. If she sucks 30 dicks we might see more hesitation or glossing over details. I didn't ignore… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 05:44 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualNow we are arguing in the area that it's not true because you don't believe it to be true, instead of arguing in the area that it's not mathematically possible. My argument was it's absolutely possible on level of numbers. If we are just going to assume all people who answered survey are liars or inaccurate then we need some reason why we would assume that other than "of course they lie". To my experience most women sit home. They see their friends but if there's a man approaching he gets shooed… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 05:33 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualIf 20% of women goes on all those dates with 80% of men then average woman is someone in 80% of women that don't go on dates at all, while average man is someone in the 80% that goes on dates with the 20% of women that still go on dates. No need for misinterpretation to get average man whose one or two dates with minority of women who date at all is more than average woman counterparts zero. Of course the overall number of dates will match but because of distribution average men and women can en… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 04:50 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualNot you again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 04:27 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualWe are "suddenly immune" to more than half of our safety issues when we are not dating so actually the overlap where they are both dating issues and safety issues is huge. It's so big that lot of women are improving their safety by not dating at all. Often those are women that are already mothers and have to think about their children, but some are childless women who opted out even though they'd like to have sex simply because the risks outweigh having to be horny or hormone induced "lonely" so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 04:23 PM |
| – | Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere EqualYou'd get more sympathy for some of the points if you weren't trying to turn it into "women are picky and basically causing all their problems to themselves by being stupid". Lot of relationships, short and long, are horrible for women. Framing that as "lack of ideal outcome" is pretty horrible honestly. You don't need to understand how something that looks good to you actually isn't good for women as actual lived reality... but you should listen them at least enough to know reasons they don't w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 04:02 PM |
| 4 | Women, that defend feminists as not hateful/misandrist/biassed, have you asked them any questions on reddit?No. In democracy your human rights are not supposed to be under scrutiny at all, because whole idea of democracy is making people equal decision makers. If they are it's because number of people are engaging in criminal activity against society and against democracy and they need to be treated as criminals. That's not something you vote about. It's on par with using democracy to vote tyranny on it's place, it destroys a basic tenet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:05 PM |
| 3 | Women, that defend feminists as not hateful/misandrist/biassed, have you asked them any questions on reddit?If someone comes to your house repeatedly to threaten you is your response groveling and pleading that they stop doing that? Someone repeatedly coming after our rights as human beings is no different. We know you don't care that we would like to exist in our lives without being constantly threatened, just like criminals don't care that you would like to exist in your house without being constantly threatened. Your argument that any of this would improve by groveling is bullshit. All it does is c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 02:53 PM |
| – | Women, that defend feminists as not hateful/misandrist/biassed, have you asked them any questions on reddit?Eat shit. You know which, and the list isn't short. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 02:47 PM |
| 2 | Women, that defend feminists as not hateful/misandrist/biassed, have you asked them any questions on reddit?Women have never been unable to poison, shoot or kill men in their sleep. None of those things require physical force. Yet it tends to only happen in niche cases because women don't choose to, and even the niche cases don't tend to feature woman who felt justified to do it with as little reason as men do. There's no true epidemic of systemic hatred and dehumanisation towards men that would make women think that taking their partners life is reasonable or even justifiable. If there was, women wou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 02:41 PM |
| 1 | Women, that defend feminists as not hateful/misandrist/biassed, have you asked them any questions on reddit?As a feminist if I saw women trying to exclude diminish or downplay a dad who is trying to take care of his children doing normal dad things, I'd go off on them. Or if I saw some other way to address issues like this. I may be little bit mean if an internet random comes to me demanding I care about "misandry" in return of them supposedly caring about womens humans rights (spoiler: they don't and never will, it's a blackmail tool), but I'm just as mean to women who pull gendered nonsense. Like if… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 02:21 PM |
| 2 | Women, that defend feminists as not hateful/misandrist/biassed, have you asked them any questions on reddit?I'm arguing that if bonding over shared activity rather than shared experience as men is the point then it should be irrelevant if it stops being male only space because you don't seem to need nor appreciate having one, at least not as much as women do. Yes men can invite their coworkers to hobbies and if that really becomes everyone in the workplace then that's an equality issue, but if it's just few coworkers rather than every single man in there then honestly I don't see it that way. Like sur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 02:09 PM |
| 5 | Women, that defend feminists as not hateful/misandrist/biassed, have you asked them any questions on reddit?Then the reason they can't have those spaces isn't because we oppose any kind of support for men based on gender but because they insist on creating spaces that create another social issue. How about hobby groups? I know many hobbies eventually link back to possibility of making money but it's still not the same thing than 15 men or 15 women majority in work place creating a club that further excludes the 3 women or 3 men that are in minority. Like if you are in glass blowing groups I'm sure som… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 01:54 PM |
| -1 | Women, that defend feminists as not hateful/misandrist/biassed, have you asked them any questions on reddit?This is my answer too if you dive deeper into what I actually believe. But it doesn't mean I'll entertain any assclown that's trying to frame it as an issue comparable to women losing their human rights. Ops opening made me believe they are exactly the kind of person who is mainly asking to have excuse to oppose women's human rights. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 01:47 PM |
| 4 | Women, that defend feminists as not hateful/misandrist/biassed, have you asked them any questions on reddit?If no one gets to make gendered spaces around work then what's the issue, you can still run plenty of organisations which support men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 01:39 PM |
| 2 | Women, that defend feminists as not hateful/misandrist/biassed, have you asked them any questions on reddit?Exactly. It's ridiculous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 01:35 PM |
| 0 | Women, that defend feminists as not hateful/misandrist/biassed, have you asked them any questions on reddit?Or they don't care because terfs and other human scum is minority of people who call themselves feminist and rest are just people who believe in human rights and equality for women. If you don't know if someone is terf you can google it easily and they are shunned by rest of the feminists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 01:35 PM |
| 4 | Women, that defend feminists as not hateful/misandrist/biassed, have you asked them any questions on reddit?So because you see some mean Tiktoks and we refuse to yield and lick your shoes over it it's off with our human rights next? It's pretty despicable way to think and in all honesty you would probably effectively hate us anyway if that little hardship makes you want to be absolute monster to half the human population. Doesn't sound like you would be in any way reliable ally even if we campaigned against mean Tiktoks, it sounds like you'd just come up with more demands all the while you hold our hu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 01:26 PM |
| 5 | Women, that defend feminists as not hateful/misandrist/biassed, have you asked them any questions on reddit?Then you mitigate those issues by not making gendered spaces around work, for either gender and especially not one that's overrepresented on each professional circle. If 90% of leadership is already male though, I wouldn't be too worried if women have one. Same survives gender flip if you bring that to areas that have majority of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 01:20 PM |
| -5 | Women, that defend feminists as not hateful/misandrist/biassed, have you asked them any questions on reddit?Way to throw everyone else under the bus just to try to win allyship of someone who uses any excuse to tear down your human rights and defend people who kill your gender en masse. He cares about mean Tiktoks so much that he's ready to ignore all that (the deaths, the loss of human rights), do you think he'll care about your life if you grovel enough and play his stupid game? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 01:14 PM |
| 3 | Women, that defend feminists as not hateful/misandrist/biassed, have you asked them any questions on reddit?Misandry doesn't exist. Men are not dying en masse because of targeted hatred or being targeted by violence by women. Your body autonomy is not threatened. You see mean Tiktoks sometimes and that's the extent of your problems - yet you want to play whataboutism and compare that to other people's lives and human rights that are in jeopardy. Not kindly, fuck off because that's irresponsible af and just can't come from good place. I don't play your game where you try to diminish other people's enti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 01:11 PM |
| 1 | Why can't men be marketed to women as sexual objects / receivers of desire?That makes sense. Also I've come across some media written by other male sex workers including strippers and the general idea is women may need specific circumstances to feel comfortable enough (for example it helped stripping men to learn to have conversations about other people rather than themselves, and I mean helped to actually sell their services and sometimes get crazy high tips for something very explicitly sexual) but after that rest of the deal isn't that different from men because wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 03:17 AM |
| 5 | Why can't men be marketed to women as sexual objects / receivers of desire?Woman but this stupid subreddit hates me so answering here. Men are sold as sexual objects all the time. They just usually come with some other skill or hobby or half excuse that fills in enough that the woman who is thirsting after him can develop imaginary persona to accompany the pretty face (and honestly most cases more than face) but in effect it's the same. The popstars that can sing just enough that you can't exactly say they lack the skill but not well enough that they'd normally be famo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 12:52 AM |
| 1 | Why can't men be marketed to women as sexual objects / receivers of desire?I agree with that. This is what happened to me when I was experimenting watching porn back in my early adulthood. I ran into dead eyes on her in every fifth clip and that combined with masses of men who are happy to masturbate to it no matter that you can see something isn't alright turned me off so badly that I couldn't enjoy the other clips that aren't like that. Asked some men about it answer was "oh it never happens, everyone is there with consent" but I know those clips are common so instea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 12:17 AM |
| 9 | Why can't men be marketed to women as sexual objects / receivers of desire?Even outside extreme examples, most men in public eye in profession that requires them to be attractive do wear makeup exactly because they are trying to be attractive, it's just subtle. It might be just colouring your eye lashes brown instead of see through colour you were born with, and not "extra thickness" mascara that women use that cakes up in lashes, but it's there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 12:04 AM |
| 3 | Why can't men be marketed to women as sexual objects / receivers of desire?Maybe it's because of what some guys here say, that men put other men in categories of guys like them, losers not to be touched and rivals. Maybe if there's a high chance your commander is going bald you do better in his troops when you keep your hair short. Maybe the pressure to register "just like you" is higher when you are trying to avoid getting rivalled. Mens fashion does seem to always end up being more monotone, even when it exists and is extravagant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 12:00 AM |
| 6 | Why can't men be marketed to women as sexual objects / receivers of desire?You are wrong about that. Lot of women don't mind pursuing men in fictional reality where they are either a man or some mythical creature, they just don't like the baggage that inevitably comes with that in actual reality where they are perceived as women and expected to fit women's behaviour patterns. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 11:55 PM |
| 14 | Why can't men be marketed to women as sexual objects / receivers of desire?Has it occurred to you that men never get shamed for same behaviour so the mere existence of shaming creates huge difference in experience that you perhaps can't imagine | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 11:49 PM |
| 3 | Feminists expect male "allies", but have no interest in solving male-specific issues or even recognizing themI don't personally oppose any redistribution of resources as long as that's related to basic needs such as healthcare, food, roof over your head, clean clothes. The issue of "whose fault it is" goes extinct if you believe all people have right to not actively suffer from something that's easily preventable, and don't believe they deserve to be maliciously punished for perceived laziness or whatever else. If you believe in human decency for everyone then you don't need to read thoughts and it sto… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 11:30 PM |
| 14 | Woman of Reddit. What is your usual response or reaction when you hear guys say "Women are too much work"?Same. I genuinely don't think anything of it. It's like stranger telling me they gone golfing and didn't like it, that's not something that affects my life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 11:06 PM |
| 16 | Gen Z men who want to get married, if you are not competing for the female fantasy, why do you still wish to get married?He just hallucinated whole lot of crap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 10:28 AM |
| 2 | Men and Women Often Fear Opposite Forms of RejectionI think lot of the upset comes from that some people want to get the flower first and then build the greenhouse to protect it while some would prefer to not go through series of dead flowers because greenhouse wasn't built in time. But ultimately everyone will need both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 08:01 PM |
| 3 | Men and Women Often Fear Opposite Forms of RejectionHow many attractive women are poor? Yet if I refuse to get a job or don't show up to work that still doesn't mean that I can blame not having money to pay a bill on not being hottie. "Your honour it's not that I kept racking up debt, it's that I wasn't born with big enough eyes." Just because top 1% hot men and women sometimes get things others typically have to see effort for handed to them for free doesn't mean your personal responsibility ends there and things you haven't done to improve your… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 07:51 PM |
| 3 | Men and Women Often Fear Opposite Forms of RejectionI think lot of men and women don't actually believe they deserve "more" from relationships than bare minimum so instead of looking for someone they click on personal level they go for superficial things that they think they "can put up with" in absence of connection. That leads to women being seen as sex receptacles and men being seen as employees whose function is providing all sorts of things to the woman and potential children. Those things are the lowest hanging fruit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 07:44 PM |
| 3 | Sex and relationships are mostly an Esteem need, not a Love & Belonging need. Conflating the two makes the surrounding discourse a lot more confusing.But Op does not, he's talking about people who put it on love and belonging rung whom he doesn't agree with because he thinks it belongs on esteem rung. You are missing point here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 03:23 AM |
| 3 | Sex and relationships are mostly an Esteem need, not a Love & Belonging need. Conflating the two makes the surrounding discourse a lot more confusing.He is not saying that anyone should have sex with someone that they aren't attracted to, he's saying that only being attracted to super hot people tells something about how high the need for sex is in Maslow's hierarchy. If you agree you can fill the previous tier (love and belonging) without having sex with super attractive people, even if that means you are just using your hand in your sex life, you agree with him against people who are claiming that their need for sex resides on that rung of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 03:16 AM |
| 2 | What is the average female sexual experience like?I said that then realised it's unfair exaggeration so I edited it but in the end of day body fluids are body fluids so saying you won't have sex with your partner because it involves body fluids is just abhorrent to me and not something I would listen to especially if it conveniently seems to lead to situation where only one partner is ever pleasured. I can understand point about needing to make preparations. Could maybe even understand extreme neat freak freaking out over body fluids because me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 02:10 AM |
| 0 | It's not a hot take to say that most women (doesn't matter if they conservative or liberal) don't like pegging, feminine men, or bisexual men.I don't think it's fair to blame women for something that most cishet people struggle with. Men are also pushing against any sort of freedom for men. The situation has been similar any time society tries to change: small subset of people have to start it and push for it while majority drags their feet or actively oppose it because majority of humans do poorly with new concepts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 01:52 AM |
| 1 | It's not a hot take to say that most women (doesn't matter if they conservative or liberal) don't like pegging, feminine men, or bisexual men.Probably because they are minority among committed relationships if that's the context. The whole "why more bi men end up with women and more bi women end up with men" has been asked many times and it tends to come back to that the bi person in equation just had vastly more options in the opposite gender and it's easier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 01:38 AM |
| 5 | It's not a hot take to say that most women (doesn't matter if they conservative or liberal) don't like pegging, feminine men, or bisexual men.To be fair the sub of any act does have "the real power" in a sense that dominant partner that's in charge is catering to them and typically has to act with their partner and their comfort in the focus whether it looks like that or not. Saying they are dominant or masculine because of it is hogwash indeed (as you point out that's not even the point) but they do have the power if it's actually mutual act where they play submissive role. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 01:33 AM |
| 6 | It's not a hot take to say that most women (doesn't matter if they conservative or liberal) don't like pegging, feminine men, or bisexual men.I was gonna point this out. I know zero bisexual men who are as miserable and hung up on stupid shit as average het man seems to be. It's clear they didn't lose out in equation in any way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 01:27 AM |
| 1 | What is the average female sexual experience like?It's actually normal to squirt even with strong abdominal muscles if certain parts of the vagina get stimulated so it's just as likely he was poking areas that cause that to happen if you press them repeatedly. Him finding it gross is still rich, seeing as men expect women to be chill with cum all the time despite that some of it is inevitably pee and rest is body fluid just like pee is with no magic properties to make it inherently more sanitary of pleasant. If he doesn't want to deal with body… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 12:47 AM |
| 5 | What is the average female sexual experience like?The secret is not caring if they think there's something wrong with you. Mens opinion isn't that valuable. Lot of the way we are socialised as women leads us to think that if we feel something for a guy that makes everything he might think super meaningful and important for our lives, as if now there's a crack in the harmony of our happily ever after just because a man had a thought. But it doesn't. Stupid shit is gonna cross his mind 12456633 times a day and it has no bearing on you unless you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 06:27 PM |
| 6 | Basing off the 80/20 theory- for those of you in the 80% would you rather not have sex or be alone?I don't even think I would experience it as fullfilling emotional relationship. It would be more like "why is that person even in my space" if I'm getting rejected 24/7 all days of month all months of year. I don't want a roommate and they are not my child so what are we doing. The slot for that sort of relationship just doesn't exist in my head. I think only asexual people and extreme romantics have that slot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 06:07 PM |
| 6 | Basing off the 80/20 theory- for those of you in the 80% would you rather not have sex or be alone?I wouldn't. I would feel frustrated even if he was the only man in the world that I can have relationship with and otherwise perfect, because I don't want a man for that. I'm a whole person by myself, not one half of a couple that has to exist at cost of massive frustration. I'm on exact same page about it as someone who commented before, I'd rather have honest friendship than pretend we are a couple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 05:46 PM |
| 2 | What is the average female sexual experience like?Okay I'll try to answer that but there's quite a lot of nuance to it. Also my current partner never actually gets soft doing any of that and he's easy to fire up with dirty talk so it's never been issue with him. But in theory: If he went flaccid suddenly I'd want to check if he's okay. Then I'd go based on what he actually says. Still wants to continue? We are good to go. Something ruined the mood? We can stop or take break or whatever. If he was half hard and no other signs of issues on sight … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 03:21 PM |
| 5 | What is the average female sexual experience like?Yes it is if society decides it is. It's called sex for women every day. Should we be arguing semantics and battling the definition of word sex for you to understand our dick is not getting touched in it. So it's like ton of women offering to hump your tight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 03:11 PM |
| – | What is the average female sexual experience like?You wouldn't be cumming that's the deal. Your dick wouldn't even get touched. Lol. Why are you so slow | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 03:09 PM |
| 2 | What is the average female sexual experience like?If the women are humping your tight you are not getting much pleasure and sensation either though. Does it still sound good, just having tons of women offering to rub themselves to your tight but never touching your dick and expecting you to be done and content when you are sitting there with blue balls | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 03:08 PM |
| 6 | What is the average female sexual experience like?That's you. Unfortunately for women who want ONs most guys are needy with women, including the guys who don't want to see effort to be in relationship where they could get those needs met. Real ONs guys are only fraction of pool that claims to be one (or even believes they are one til she actually doesn't care and he can't handle it). Good for you for being able to handle it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 03:04 PM |
| 5 | What is the average female sexual experience like?That's such a weird question. Are you asking me whether I'd offer to get him hard if it happened that he isn't, or asking me whether I'd flip the shit out if his penis isn't in exact position I want it. Since neither has anything to do with topic I'm going to assume you are frustrated because I dare to want something from my sex life instead of putting up with being used and you are looking for something that you can use to attack me, because that's what weird off the topic questions without exp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 02:51 PM |
| 6 | What is the average female sexual experience like?They realise the downsides that's why they are trying to avoid effort by being ONs. What they forget to think about are downsides of being ONs and if that actually suits them. It's "I don't want to see effort but I'm forgetting to think about and don't realise that I myself need effort". To make balanced decision you can't only think about what you yourself don't have to provide but also what other party doesn't either. It's the same reason guys who aren't fit for open marriage open their marria… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 02:38 PM |
| 9 | What is the average female sexual experience like?Men who think they are on board with casual are much more common than ones that actually are. Thinking process is typically not "I have thought long and hard about whether I'm a relationship kind of guy or ONs kind of guy and what fits my current life, personality and goals" it's usually simply "I want sex but I don't want to do all that for a woman". So every guy thinks they are ONs guy even if they aren't simply because they want to avoid effort and want sex. Most men want the woman they are f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 02:02 PM |
| 11 | What is the average female sexual experience like?How about not orgasming at all and suffering long stretches of time with blue balls. And all the sex happens without touching your dick, they are maybe humping your tight but your dick never gets touched. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 01:15 PM |
| 3 | What is the average female sexual experience like?Same with my bad lays. I saw good sex life with the last one mainly because I typed out since beginning that sex is not happening unless I get what I want because otherwise it's frustrating to me and I don't want to feel used. Otherwise he'd have continued to think it's not that important and that my pleasure is optional, not even out of malice but some sense of "this is how everyone does it, caring about women is circus tricks and modern foolishness like avocado toast, not another trend again w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 01:07 PM |
| 6 | What is the average female sexual experience like?They talk like that because they want to sound like they are manly and capable ... to other men. That doesn't mean they are actually good with women or even care about women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 12:58 PM |
| 10 | What is the average female sexual experience like?I personally stopped doing that. Told him clearly "I want these things or [sex act] is not happening because it's not fun to me and just makes me feel frustrated". He thought it was "so much hassle" because it never goes like that in trash TV he watches that's 40 years old because our national TV doesn't want to pay for new series and he doesn't want to go to internet to make up for it - but I just shrugged and left him to process it. For some reason I don't feel any insecurity that he leaves me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 12:50 PM |
| 2 | How attracted are you to a guy you “settled with” at age 30 compared to previous flings & relationships?Right, I shudder to imagine | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 12:54 AM |
| 2 | How attracted are you to a guy you “settled with” at age 30 compared to previous flings & relationships?Aww thank you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 12:50 AM |
| 2 | How attracted are you to a guy you “settled with” at age 30 compared to previous flings & relationships?I don't really want to talk one on one with anyone whose hobby is being mod to ppd just not brave enough but thank you for general Reddit advice | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 12:49 AM |
| 2 | How attracted are you to a guy you “settled with” at age 30 compared to previous flings & relationships?Yeah so clearly it's censorship and it's my honour to cause disruption without flair because shit subreddit forced my hand. Thank you for putting up with piggy back | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 12:47 AM |
| 1 | Heterosexuals: would you date your best friend if their personality was put into the body of an attractive member of the opposite sex?No. They are my friend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 12:45 AM |
| 3 | How attracted are you to a guy you “settled with” at age 30 compared to previous flings & relationships?Anything. I've tried anything yet it gets stuck in waiting for approval so I gave up after three or so times because clearly it's just personal and point is preventing me from talking so that incels can have more space. Even tried preset flairs and same thing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 12:40 AM |
| 8 | How attracted are you to a guy you “settled with” at age 30 compared to previous flings & relationships?I never did flings and my exes are not attractive to me anymore because our relationship is over and I don't want to think about them in that context at all, at this point it's disgusting. But, if I was going to try to give people numbers based on how they'd probably be perceived 1st ex = 2/10 2nd ex= 6/10 3rd ex= 8/10 4th not an ex in my 30s = 7/10 Piggybacking because this sub refuses to approve my flair and I refuse to get censored just because my flair is rejected every time. Point is I don'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 12:35 AM |
| 1 | The manospheres biggest lieI can agree with you on that. Sometimes people who are in their 30s or early 40s rush into it together because they met and have otherwise great chemistry and it's their last chance together, but I don't think men especially search out their exact age match or prefer her. Whole 50y was just because I wanted to point out men have cap too and depending on their shape finances and other desirable qualities it comes some time between 40 and 50 so it's like ten years later but it happens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 12:19 AM |
| 2 | The manospheres biggest lieWith all his money even if some said no, he could easily get surrogate if he wanted to. Same applies every guy who is rich enough to hire someone else to do the childcare - they are rich enough to hire surrogate. Which leads to that all the guys you see going on about artificial wombs are either too poor to make anybody else do the actual childcare for them and will end up parenting, or - if they are wealthy enough to afford childcare - they are lying out of their ass about needing artificial wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 09:54 PM |
| 3 | The manospheres biggest lieElon can already hire surrogates without any problem. And the eggs aren't out of his reach either because people quite literally sell them. The artificial version will only bring the option to guys who are not able to hire women for actual raising part because 100k for surrogacy is nothing compared to years of around the clock baby sitting. Guys who can't hire surrogate now can't hire woman to do parenting in their stead even if artificial womb makes becoming single dad option for them - they ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 09:41 PM |
| 1 | Women Generally Can’t Distinguish Between Confidence and NarcissismCheck your local politicians and then check who men voted for. Men fall for narsisstic people plenty, they just imagine they are competent and that it's rational decision. All people are trying to vet for competence, it just varies how well person can tell confidence apart from it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 09:35 PM |
| 1 | Women Generally Can’t Distinguish Between Confidence and NarcissismThere's even plenty of evidence that dark triad women are also successful in dating. Men may not frame what they seek as confidence but nobody likes insecure energy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 09:28 PM |
| 2 | Do most men here come from married two parent homes?But, child support is result of having children rather than dependent on whether you married or not so wouldn't that just have warned you to not have kids? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 09:17 PM |
| 2 | Do most men here come from married two parent homes?The red pillers probably. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 09:11 PM |
| 1 | Do most men here come from married two parent homes?So all my male relatives are stem betas according to red pill because they don't go out, sit on computer a lot, don't have girlfriends and are in engineering like rest of the family. I feel like you just described average introvert. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 09:09 PM |
| 1 | Older women are in high demand with younger men. Is this a good thing or a bad thing?That's important if they are your old friends or family members but I can see how it wouldn't matter if you are the type of person who hits big gatherings of people for bit of interesting and energizing company because then you wouldn't really be there for each other but for entertainment that boring discussion ruins | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 08:50 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: What would you do if your partner cheated on you? Would you immediately leave them, or would you give them a chance for forgiveness? Do you think there's a gender-based difference in how people react to being cheated on?Does not sound terrible. You found out nobody else is looking out for you (and I really mean, not even on basic human respect level) so you looked out for yourself and made the best of it you could. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 08:26 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: What would you do if your partner cheated on you? Would you immediately leave them, or would you give them a chance for forgiveness? Do you think there's a gender-based difference in how people react to being cheated on?Women are more forgiving because women get judged on their family lives more so initially it's the easiest solution to pretend it didn't happen so that you don't have to be the woman whose "man keeping skills" are bad because she let one slip through her fingers. Just like men get judged as less capable by toxic peers if they fail to hit on woman on their sight, women from patriarchal mindsets will judge other women for "failing to keep a man". This is something that lives under surface in many … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 08:19 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: What would you do if your partner cheated on you? Would you immediately leave them, or would you give them a chance for forgiveness? Do you think there's a gender-based difference in how people react to being cheated on?You are like me. The cheater didn't respected cheated partner enough to communicate anything so transparency isn't owed, they deserve a surprise too and you can only weaken your own position by letting them know about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 08:04 PM |
| 3 | The manospheres biggest lieI don't think so because first of all those men don't want to see all the effort of parenting so a lot won't go through whole thing. They like to bark a lot just like they bark about men supposedly going their own way but that's anger to women, not true willingness to follow through. Guys who can't even manage to schedule their own doctors appointments aren't becoming parents by themselves any time soon. They imagine women are too stupid to see through it but it's obvious they don't want to wake… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 07:22 PM |
| 1 | The manospheres biggest lieI think it'll make society unstable for a little while but then most likely evolution will start correcting it because even though kids no longer die en masse before age family lines still also end to combination of dysfunctionality reaching critical level and/or remaining family members realising they are a part of trainwreck and opting out. Birth control has only existed for ~100 years which isn't even a blip for evolution, it makes sense that eventually people who have tons of kids because th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 07:10 PM |
| 3 | The manospheres biggest lie30 year old women aren't going to queue to marry a man and have his kids once he's 50. At best most ordinary men have ten years extra compared to ordinary women before they can effectively kiss goodbye to family plans because they might be able to pair up with 40y old woman in their 50s if reasonably lucky and in shape financially and physically but after that their time window is pretty much gone. Rich people are their own count but that applies to both women and men because surrogacy and froze… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 06:40 PM |
| 3 | The manospheres biggest lieI agree. I have also been following technology around keeping 23 weekers alive because it's fascinating to me that babies so young that just couple of years ago parents would have been hard pressed to find hospital that's even willing to try have become (compared to past common) patients that sometimes make it and it's just now in recent years slowly becoming possible for them to have chance. The idea you could backtrack that even for a week let alone months is absurd and far away from being att… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 06:15 PM |
| 4 | Q4All: What would you do if your partner cheated on you? Would you immediately leave them, or would you give them a chance for forgiveness? Do you think there's a gender-based difference in how people react to being cheated on?Over. I'm not even super jealous about other women, it's just that I believe in reliability and partnership over all else and this is one of the best ways to show me that you 1) like to lie to me 2) are not building together but prefer one sided deals / whatever you can get at my cost 3) don't respect my autonomy or you'd give me a choice None of them make great life partner, it's more like playing bingo about what way I'll get backstabbed / used into one direction/ ripped off my autonomy next. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 06:53 AM |
| 1 | How to correctly interpret the fact that most find most women attractive, but most women don't find most men attractive?I think women operate differently and lot of men are either angry about it or unwilling to accept it. Men are pretty decided on their attraction from moment one while most women (this obviously doesn't apply to all) are unable to simply see a guy and feel something. Lot of women can tell who they aren't attracted to and maybe point out "objectively" good looking guy but otherwise initial looks do next to nothing to a woman one hasn't even spoken to. Men tend to interpret this as "no attraction" … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 05:37 AM |
| – | Would you rather have primary custody or 50/50 and pay child support?I was like "what's that, sound logic I can follow up with, resonate with and see the point of in PPD" and then I saw you are autistic (too) so of course you'll cut through the bullshit to the point, good for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 11:32 PM |
| 11 | Would you rather have primary custody or 50/50 and pay child support?I feel like the fact I laughed means this is enough internet for me for the day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 11:29 PM |
| 2 | Men should not be approaching women.I actually think it would be fun to flip this other way around for a year or so if we ever possessed power to do so and watch men fork up 200e a month for doing their hair, get a wardrobe and actually start using skin and hygiene products so that they don't get regarded as worthless slob and never approached anyway while enjoying the supposed female benefits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 11:06 PM |
| 2 | Men should not be approaching women.The problem is those guys they are going feral about are in most if not all of the cases guys that approached them and not guys they were drooling over and going feral about before he approached and made good impression. Women sitting there hoping particular guy approaches them are rare and limited almost completely to rockstars, everyone else including the guys you see them going feral about has to impress them in the beginning or it's not happening. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 10:49 PM |
| 2 | Why do some feminists, especially on Reddit, so vehemently deny they don't hate men but do nothing to stop and even justify hateful comments of men in their subreddits?Black guys need to recognise their male privilege and white women need to recognise their white privilege. 2/2 those needs to happen or someone is being an asshole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 10:32 PM |
| -1 | Why do some feminists, especially on Reddit, so vehemently deny they don't hate men but do nothing to stop and even justify hateful comments of men in their subreddits?What should you do about system that rapes abuses and exploits your whole gender and regularly debates their human rights then? "Aww shucks but not all mennnnnn" ? Way to centre yourself in someone else's problems | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 10:27 PM |
| 2 | Why do some feminists, especially on Reddit, so vehemently deny they don't hate men but do nothing to stop and even justify hateful comments of men in their subreddits?Female to male murder statistics versus reverse. The way womens human rights are constantly treated like they are up for debate (if you pretend blind to that this convo is over because debating with liars leads nowhere). Clearly one of the forms of "hate" is just mean words in internet while other is an actual violence epidemic against everyone on individual level based on just their gender | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 10:24 PM |
| 1 | Why do some feminists, especially on Reddit, so vehemently deny they don't hate men but do nothing to stop and even justify hateful comments of men in their subreddits?If you ask women who helped them when they were about to get raped, they'll all tell it was other women. So clearly you don't care that much because none of you ever shows up, notices what's going on and interferes. You are all more concerned about assuming best of other men than you are about womens actual safety and that's why you are conveniently never there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 10:17 PM |
| 2 | Men Confuse Women Wanting Confident Men With Wanting “Assholes”Everyone is typically better judge of people of their own gender. I've commented on this discussion that the reason lot of ordinary guys don't read as confident to women is because lot of ordinary guys are quite comfortable conducting their friendships in a way that reads hierarchical to a woman and when they start trying to date they just replace their social group leader with her. That makes it easier for manipulative guys to read as the confident ones because they already have the module for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 03:42 PM |
| 1 | Men Confuse Women Wanting Confident Men With Wanting “Assholes”I think it's because lot of men conduct themselves hierarchically in their friendships without recognising it's a hierarchy so for them trying to be in balance with someone rather than under or above them reads as being asshole because you are breaking the social rules they are most comfortable with. Lot of them, not all of them, are not able to tell their friends "no" in any shape or form because the way their friend group functions is you are supposed to go along with everything, where certain… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 03:30 PM |
| 1 | Can women really not understand where Nice Guys come from ?Because, something your ilk hates admitting but it's the actual why in this case, lot of men aren't nice (among unchosen ones, as even the fuckbois are nice to a degree if we are talking about men who get chosen). If most cars you encountered at the dealership refused to start you'd probably think about mentioning to the seller that you are looking for a car that starts and when they walk you to one that starts then you'd start asking yourself do I want this car. That doesn't mean it's a great s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 03:12 PM |
| 1 | Can women really not understand where Nice Guys come from ?This. Why is women understanding why men are doing thinking wrong and where the logical mistakes lie, suddenly an equivalent that we should be queuing to teach those guys how to not do it wrong. Surely the fact we aren't queuing to tell every idiot that they are being an idiot is not evidence we don't see how their "thinking process" went. And, them already misunderstanding something women have been saying isn't some shiny advertise for why we should talk to them even more, it's the opposite. Wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 02:52 PM |
| 1 | Why do Men degrade and insult Women who have sex with them?They are pretty wrong though. Even if something is scarce, you still indulge when you indulge, it's not going to make the act inherently more disciplined or less "dirty" if that's how you have chosen to view indulging. I think thats why when those guys actually get laid the rhetoric lessens significantly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 01:47 PM |
| 2 | Why do Men degrade and insult Women who have sex with them?Even though they are often referred as forms of hatred, I think that framing misandry or misogyny only as active angry hatred in ones mind are how you end up missing them. A grandmother telling her granddaughter to cover up because her fear is that she's being indecent (even if she doesn't fear she will be assaulted) is unlikely to hate her grandchild in the emotional capacity we would call hatred, but she can still act out of internalised misogyny. She can still think her own gender is impure f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 01:35 PM |
| 2 | Why do Men degrade and insult Women who have sex with them?I think that's one of 10/10 observations on this topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 01:29 PM |
| 3 | Why do some women, especially on Reddit, instantly assume that men who simply vent about dating struggles are entitled to a relationship?Everybody here knows this sub is unhealthy lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 01:16 PM |
| 2 | Why do some women, especially on Reddit, instantly assume that men who simply vent about dating struggles are entitled to a relationship?That's a shitty person in my book, at least if really you kept it to "haven't seen success" rather than to "all women are going for chads buaa". One should not ask someone why they are single if they can't hear "my dating life sucks and I'm getting tired with it" in response. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 01:13 PM |
| 1 | Why do some women, especially on Reddit, instantly assume that men who simply vent about dating struggles are entitled to a relationship?Well. I wasn't born hating it. You can see my response for more details if you want to but generally listening to any whining men pans out very poorly for women even if there's no instant gut reaction against it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 12:41 PM |
| 1 | Why do some women, especially on Reddit, instantly assume that men who simply vent about dating struggles are entitled to a relationship?I think that's true for some people. I personally don't mind listening to any people whine but I had very bad experiences with men doing it so now unless I know them for a while for example through my gaming hobby unfortunately I approach with extreme reservation. The three topmost issues that occurred were 1) Feeling entitled to my time. That's, as soon as it's detected I'm woman the worst problem I have isn't even people hitting on me, it's that they kind of see me as buffet of services overal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 11:46 AM |
| 1 | Mens' sense of security with a woman does not come from the relationshipI think you lost people in whole "raising other dudes kid" part because it sounds like regurgitating most toxic and nuance ridden manosphere points. Lot of people you need to successfully go on about your day and have society are people who don't share the little subset of DNA that sets us apart with you and they are still allies so it's not inherently against your success or wronging you that you are raising one whether adoptive parent or stepparent. Dropping that attitude rest of the point is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 06:10 AM |
| 2 | Mens' sense of security with a woman does not come from the relationshipRich man in romance novels is like labiaplasty in porn. Most men don't in any shape or form require your privates have undergone plastic surgery nor do they care, but because there's a fragment of men that does care it gets done anyway because every little bit more to popularity is still net positive. So it becomes less about that majority needs it and more about that some people do and rest don't care one way or another. If there was significant number of women that find money unattractive, or … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 05:43 AM |
| 1 | Mens' sense of security with a woman does not come from the relationshipThat's the only part I wanted to correct you on really because I don't like disrespect to any kids and I think it borders on contempt in some places and it definitely does not come from biological incentive because humans are social species that benefits from having community and bonds as long as it doesn't mean they don't have kids their own (or endanger those kids, but it usually does opposite because their siblings have strong incentive to help them). Otherwise we wouldn't be as keen to adopt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 05:15 AM |
| 1 | It's fine to have a type. Just admit that you do.Upvoted for consistency, not because I massively disagree with Lilith or think your view point is the only one. But your case makes sense if one believes it's the exact way you describe it is. I once thought I wanted to wait until marriage. I got pressured but I broke up with the guy. Same day he's crawling back intent on waiting until marriage. What you say might be true for some men. It was overall pretty stupid relationship and I got horny so I didn't wait for anything in the end, but some gu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 12:44 AM |
| 1 | Mens' sense of security with a woman does not come from the relationshipDude, agree with you in everything else except "raising another dudes kid" because that's not what fear of paternity fraud is about. In the end it doesn't matter much if you raise, let's say, one kid she had previously but she still desires you so you know that any current ones from your relationship are really yours. In scarcier times that would have been one of most likely at least ten children you are raising so it's a blip (plus they are farm labour for your house that's likely to stick arou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 11:01 PM |
| 1 | Men "lying to get sex" is a manipulative blanket narrative.Autistic people do plenty of things right. We just get hyper focused on when we either do something wrong or don't match someone's expectations because it's unexpected to others. For instance, I'm not comfortable with abortion on myself. I get to decide that because in the end no one gets to choose how I should deal with medical condition. I started my sex life at 16 but I sat my boyfriend down for very autistic conversation about it where I laid out expectation we have a plan in place beforehan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 09:46 PM |
| 2 | Men "lying to get sex" is a manipulative blanket narrative.One guy I know complimented the jeans of girl I know and her and her bestie decided (in my view and hear) that this meant he's really into her as relationship prospect. Which is a singular event in like decade and half of being adult, but people really do not manage their expectations in reasonable way what becomes to romance sometimes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 09:43 PM |
| 2 | Men "lying to get sex" is a manipulative blanket narrative.Yeah we know we can't be cold hearted bitch with attachment issues (just described myself) and expect someone to jump in with both two feet. I personally think you both should put effort in letting other person know where they stand in their relationship with you as it grows. New boyfriend is right to start from assumption he means nothing. I think expecting women to put out is pretty poor bandaid for what's really going on in that stage of dating though because it does not actually assure or gu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 09:36 PM |
| 2 | Men "lying to get sex" is a manipulative blanket narrative.This conversation is making me feel glad I'm autistic because I made everybody have that conversation in length simply because it seemed reasonable thing to do, and I don't give fuck that someone thinks I'm not romantic because I lay things out in the clear. I will conduct cross interview if I feel like it's necessary for both parties protection. This covers everything from what's expected from the encounter to how we will discuss it if something goes wrong and also the birth control. I think it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 09:13 PM |
| 2 | Men "lying to get sex" is a manipulative blanket narrative.None of that makes it their responsibility to know for sure if they are fucking a wrong dude, that's impossible. You are talking like it's their fault someone chose to be piece of shit and it never is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 08:49 PM |
| 0 | Men "lying to get sex" is a manipulative blanket narrative.They were responding to your horrible last paragraph not whole point. In my opinion. I don't see them claiming poor communication is only on one party even though they suggested ways to bring it up | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 08:46 PM |
| 1 | Men "lying to get sex" is a manipulative blanket narrative.I agreed with you until last paragraph. It's not women's responsibility to have crystal ball and always know without failure whether someone else is manipulative asshole or not. Being wanted doesn't in any way give you that ability and even listening to your intuition only brings you so far. That's absolutely absurd expectation and blaming them for existence of shitty people after they've done their best just isn't okay. Other than that, if conversation didn't happen of course it's possible both… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 08:41 PM |
| – | The "Choose Better" debate always seems to devolve into defensive and/or deflecting off-topic discussionsThat and other women, vast majority of women, are almost always telling their (wayward) friends to choose better but because it's not public humiliation of women that fullfills revenge fantasy these men have in their heads it doesn't even count even if they are let know it happens. In the contrary if they find out about it they become enraged because now it's viewed as a personal attack against them instead of women caring about other women. Also, men who say this have tendency to admit if you p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 08:07 PM |
| 2 | Boys are not being treated like defective girls (because girls shouldn't be treated that way either).It's both. It's privilege when the laxness protects you against internalizing a lesson you are always evil if you make mistake at young age. It's a curse when the flipside of relative indifference means you don't get taught or parented at all. Both can apply same person at the same time because this isn't competition where negatives and positives cancel out each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 04:04 AM |
| – | The blue pill argument that women only care about men's personalities and do not care about a man's looks/status/money goes straight out the widow the second the man turns out be an abuser.Looks "don't matter" for most normal looking people if all you need is ONE person who will find you appealing and if you have big enough reach of people. I put not mattering on ""s because that's one way to view it, not absolute truth in the way you are taking it. If you want large number of opportunities and don't want to spend shit ton of effort looking or if you are trying to impress someone right now then I'm sure those people would agree it matters for your overall odds. They are looking at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 02:11 AM |
| – | The blue pill argument that women only care about men's personalities and do not care about a man's looks/status/money goes straight out the widow the second the man turns out be an abuser.Everybody knows ugly people do worse in dating. But if you go around making exaggerated overly emotional claims like "women will always choose the wife beater" because you are bitter and want to see women "get what they deserve" for not dating the uggo, you'll face pushback because that's emotional rant/ exaggeration. And also if you make claims like average men don't stand a chance because again that's going on tirade based on emotion and plenty of average men are in relationships. Just don't b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 01:54 AM |
| – | The blue pill argument that women only care about men's personalities and do not care about a man's looks/status/money goes straight out the widow the second the man turns out be an abuser.Right. Worst abusers I've known of were social underdogs who needed someone to be below them so they targeted someone that loves them because it's easy and convenient. Not chad types. The most successful women I know in terms of avoiding abusers for over ten years and myriad of relationships are the ones with least empathy for men because they don't "give chances" and treat insecurity like it's a bomb. Reverse is also true in my experience. Not every empathic and agreeable woman ONLY catches abu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 01:39 AM |
| 1 | “Be yourself” is the best adviceOnly two, really? What happened to doing your best to fix your flaws while you find someone who likes whatever isn't flawed. Working on a flaw isn't lying, it's making yourself change through actions . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 12:08 PM |
| 1 | “Be yourself” is the best adviceAutistic people can be themselves too. Them being themselves just gets conflated a lot with not bothering to learn any social skills - those should be learnt by everyone whether they are natural talent or not. But even if you aren't going to be a stellar 10 in social skills and even if you will inevitably infodump on your date at some point of the night, it's good idea to find out who can actually put up with your infodumping and who'll get too overwhelmed and confused because you just can't hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 12:04 PM |
| 0 | Men are shamed more for sexual freedom nowadays than womenWhere did it "spill out", was there a specific target for it and if yes, was that target a person whose wants were given consideration before any of it "spilled out"? Everybody regardless of gender should be shamed if they target a specific person whose wants they don't give consideration to. Including drunk women who harrass men at the bar. This is not on par with singing about your sexuality in general because no one is being targeted spesifically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 01:02 AM |
| 1 | Men are shamed more for sexual freedom nowadays than womenSounds almost like they are being shamed for wasting people's time, rather than for wanting to have sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 12:59 AM |
| – | Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATIONThat's the reality. What I'll do too, is make sure people know their rights. I would also never approve or support anyone who actively pushes against things like homeless shelters anywhere where there are people who are otherwise sleeping on the streets even based on formalities like where it's going to be placed because whether something is primarily for men or not, I believe and live by the belief that a persons basic needs dump all other concerns. I even talk to other women about things like … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 02:33 PM |
| 1 | Men need to stop trying to get women to like them.I just feel like they are kids so I look at it like ducklings wobbling around. If you don't stop when I have said no, you get a mommy lecture about either consent or whatever else you did wrong. It's hard to think with two braincells most teen-agers are allotted. It has worked. Not saying anyone should have to, it's just my personal preferred method. I have MUCH harsher attitude with 25 and up | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/26 03:59 PM |
| 1 | Men need to stop trying to get women to like them.Hard agree. When one has disadvantage of any kind it tends to grow big in ones mind and cause insecurities and it may feel like you have to "compensate". But most of the time other people are not even seeing it or if they are it means nothing to them. They do see it if you constantly bend over backwards to make yourself small though and nothing good comes out of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/26 03:53 PM |
| – | Anti-feminist views of young men positively correlate with dating, negatively with gaming and social networksUK gets called terf island for a reason, including by feminists anywhere sane. I don't think you have stopped being feminist if you don't identify with terfs, I think you have just discovered bunch of nutcases and I really hate calling other women that... but whole this thing of hating people literally for having one differing body part is out of hand. I think everyone sane hates them. And no one likes people whose principles are paper thin and who don't actually take them serious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/26 09:33 AM |
| 9 | Anti-feminist views of young men positively correlate with dating, negatively with gaming and social networksSince we are talking about very young people, it could also be that devaluing women helps them to hit on women because often guys who see no success are not putting themselves out there to begin with. Rejection is less scary if you tell yourself tale where other people who could reject you aren't human the same as you and your friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/26 09:20 AM |
| 2 | Why do men accuse women of having high standards, then the same men proceed to shame women for marrying guys they aren't attracted to?I think it's more malicious than that. I think they don't care about being beta buxes because they feel like they are revenging something to women back home by beta buxing for someone else. If you took that out and if you could make them believe women back home don't care about it (at least not for the men it involves) they'd soon complain again. It's why they cling to every time passport bros are diminished or concerns are raised about exploitation and why they have to pretend that's alllll the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/26 02:55 AM |
| 0 | Women not needing men is a good thingNothing about species survival requires all men or most of them to succeed in dating. I think we just need to rework the family structures to support women's newly found freedom and maybe change society a little bit in general because the core of issue is probably we just don't value human babies and children enough and tend to not give them enough priority in society to make it worth for someone to make them. Maybe humanitys numbers need to come down lot more before we find that value again and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/26 02:37 AM |
| 1 | Women not needing men is a good thingI think answering that question as if you were desirable man that can have her is your answer. If your answer is you are not leaving your old less shiny partner for new option, then you are just person who really values loyalty at heart and need to find someone who feels similar (if you can do it, she can do it). If your answer is of course you are jumping the boats, then what you deserve is women doing the exact same thing and since you don't deserve better it's not worth complaining about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/26 02:21 AM |
| 1 | I think a large percentage of men are dropping out of dating because there is no love at the end of the tunnelIt amuses me to think Romeo and Juliet was more than likely written from slight parody angle and it's thought earliest audiences laughed especially at the balcony scene which is cheaper poetry than Shakespeare's usual level and likely intended to make them look extra bratty while they make the world burn but now people don't see it that way anymore. I can agree for all of our existence we did form some sort of relationships even if they don't match directly how love is thought these days, and si… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/26 02:02 AM |
| 1 | I think a large percentage of men are dropping out of dating because there is no love at the end of the tunnelI tend to agree with most of what you are saying. I think their life hardships did play a part in how people formed ties with other people. I think it extends to more than romance because the concept of growing up with someone then falling out because you both got different hobby would probably not have occurred to someone who knew they would need whole their village and more to survive in next blink of an eye. Certainly, not needing "ride or die" people in general has affected how people meet a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/26 01:42 AM |
| 5 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationI think op might be one of those people who can't tell when someone doesn't want to talk to him, if he even goes out in the first place. So when he's being stonewalled he thinks it's a conversation and then he gets surprised when flirty compliment (on what's already ongoing rejection) is taken as creeping. And reee now it must be because he's ugly and not because the "no" was already there in interaction record before he made ill fated decision to escalate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/26 12:34 AM |
| 15 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationNot a guy and I think you summed it well. In my opinion lot of the problem in understanding this comes from thinking women like game where you are supposed to prove something as a man and every hit diminishes your value or woman skills in some way. If you accidentally hit on someone when they aren't receptive, to what I've seen young immature guys make fun of you or assume you aren't capable because you "failed" so it feels like failure, like proof you aren't good with women because you hit on o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/26 12:12 AM |
| 3 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationIt's as if we knew the same guy. I knew one that looked like 90s teen heartbreaker, blonde, glowing tan, softly muscular, "cute" smile. And he was the dumbest donkey on earth and unaware of it. Always found someone willing to have him but not for long and even that was because everyone involved was 16 and some girls didn't realise how much work he was before experiencing it. Creeped out everyone who didn't know enough to know he's simply an airhead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 11:48 PM |
| 3 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationDid you basically feed someone til he married you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 11:26 PM |
| 3 | I think a large percentage of men are dropping out of dating because there is no love at the end of the tunnelYou don't even believe in equality but want someone to throw their everything and make the giant leap to love you. Have you heard angels don't live in hell. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 11:20 PM |
| 2 | I think a large percentage of men are dropping out of dating because there is no love at the end of the tunnelMedieval peasants didn't think about love like we do today. You can see the concept getting invented and inflated. People had marriages and familiar bonds, not romantic love. Some wrote about infatuation or lust and of course you had to also marry someone in order to keep your life rolling, but that's different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 11:08 PM |
| 3 | I think a large percentage of men are dropping out of dating because there is no love at the end of the tunnelI have and I agree with op on the definition at least in above comment. Love is focusing on what's best for someone else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 10:47 PM |
| 3 | I think a large percentage of men are dropping out of dating because there is no love at the end of the tunnelWhat do you think 2 year old will be able to do on their own. Supervise themselves? What planet you live on? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 10:32 PM |
| 3 | I think a large percentage of men are dropping out of dating because there is no love at the end of the tunnelI don't think anyone knows what love is anymore or even pursues it. I don't honestly think people did in past either, they were just more tied to each other so sometimes they figured it out by accident. Yes we live in hedonistic era. In my own opinion investing in love has always been risky especially for women (both but especially women) because both parties get their heart broken but the physical dangers and hardships from sex and domestic violence fall more on the women so it's an additional … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 07:33 PM |
| 5 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationLook, if someone offers you tea when you are sitting down enjoying your afternoon and leaves once they hear you say "maybe not right now" you won't feel pestered. But if someone blocks your way when you are on your way to somewhere and starts asking you about tea and when you say "bit busy" they are "yes life is busy but how about some tea" which you reply "I don't have time " and they start insisting on knowing when you'll have time and try to make you decide on the spot that you'll want tea la… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 06:37 PM |
| 14 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationIn no culture do masses of women who aren't specifically seeking for casual sex or seeking to hustle (a small subset) welcome objectifying attention from strangers. Even most of the women who look for casual sex will balk at some point at blatant objectification too early or too obvious. You are supposed to create person to person connection first with most of them, even if it's flimsy for ones that look for something casual but it's there anyway. Good looking guy who behaves like creep isn't ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 06:12 PM |
| 5 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationThat's idiotic. When did you last go out of the house seriously. Stop dehumanising other people and you might actually be in better touch and not sound like donkey | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 06:03 PM |
| 2 | Women Deceive Themselves About Bad Men, Then Blame All Men.Lots of mature women see it, realise Meg has issues and still feel bad for the person who got cheated on (maybe more so because it looks like there are issues) so they stay out of it because all you can really do about whole thing at this point is hurt people who were already hurt even more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 12:27 AM |
| 1 | Women Deceive Themselves About Bad Men, Then Blame All Men.Deliberately stupid then | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 11:59 PM |
| 0 | Women Deceive Themselves About Bad Men, Then Blame All Men.I agreed with you until you got to bear because that's not what bear is about. Bear has nothing to do with cheating or with men you are in relationships with because whole thing is about encountering a random stranger in isolated location and that's so painfully oblivious view that I would honestly have thought you are being stupid on purpose if I didn't read rest of the comment first and already agree with everything until that point. It also has nothing to do with men being cheaters or with po… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Women Deceive Themselves About Bad Men, Then Blame All Men.You can be sad for people whose specific life choices you wouldn't make. She may have issues with choosing men but she's still not the aggressor of those situations so feeling sad for her doesn't make you a bad person like it does if you empathise with someone who themselves is hurting other people. It doesn't make any women who vet better suddenly worse at vetting either, it's just empathy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 11:18 PM |
| 6 | Red pill men: what turned you red pill?That sounds so much like how many couples that I saw in highschool broke up. He was smitten, she was happy. He needed outlet for his emotions, sometimes around the clock - she just existed. Sometimes the guy broke it, sometimes the girl but the core issue I was seeing was some variant of "yes he's awesome and I love hanging out with him but does he have to be so much all the time" cause it's so normal for women, especially young women who don't know about this yet, not anticipate the loss of tim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 10:48 PM |
| 2 | Red pill men: what turned you red pill?I agree. People who sit around expecting their soul mate to show up, notice them despite being a slob because they expect to be linked by fate and who don't deal with realism aren't going to have very romantic lives at all. Understanding that for most part people follow reasonable factual patterns that have little do with magical romance is a key to getting to have romance at all. It even applies to both genders even though womens version isn't called red pill. Most single women I know are happy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 10:18 PM |
| 0 | Red pill men: what turned you red pill?Putting other people on pedestal is so toxic. Everyone knows it wouldn't create even a good friendship, and it's not going to create any healthier one when that's your partner. If you always bow out of the way even when something is important because "wow, I can't believe this [cool, better than me] person wants to hangout with me" you become invisible, small, angry and lose yourself and it's guaranteed nobody will like you more for any of it. People hate or in best case pity people who victimis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 09:46 PM |
| -1 | Red pill men: what turned you red pill?Lot of divorced men claim it came out of the blue and believe they are the victims but in reality odds are strong they already mistreated one partner for years or decades and are angry that she left instead of putting up with it.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 09:41 PM |
| 5 | Red pill men: what turned you red pill?I have seen it happen to at least two boys for whom being bullied and popular among girls happened at the same time and heard about many more, it doesn't even require separate timeline. Sometimes other boys dislike or look a boy down, but he's popular with girls including ones wanting to date him. You can be outcast for one gender and be liked by other. I grew up with guy who when we were younger cried a lot, was definitely clingy with his friends (all girls) and mostly liked reading. He wasn't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 09:19 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityI tend to agree with actual red pillers, not the whiny manbabies who larp as one, on so much that I have started thinking I'm probably red pill woman myself. I have never been fan of lot of sugar coating and I don't believe that peoples natural impulses are inherently evil or that they need to be dampened down except if they use them as excuse to be shit humans. For example it's okay to admit women are more valuable evolutionally speaking. This isn't scary because it does not need to mean we can… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 01:34 PM |
| – | Men often look for a stable relationship in order to have a regular sex life.Are all the thousands of bird species and critters that also evaluate the nest male has built and effort that has been put in it as part of their attraction to him also shallow then? Does caring about next generation - the origins of this behaviour - make one shallow? Lot of the things men tend to register as good vibes serve exactly the same purpose as things you are judging as shallow when women are doing it. For example her moods, temperament and general level of positivity are things with st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 02:07 AM |
| – | Men often look for a stable relationship in order to have a regular sex life.I think that's only because these intentions tend to include offering her a bad deal where she benefits less than other party and gets dehumanised disrespected and shown less care about than a hobby friend or a long term business partner, or any other person who he needs. If there were fewer fuck bois and more men who understand they have to offer more than dick for the privilege (just also voicing the truth) and who were proactively trying to do that regardless of why they were drawn to make co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 12:12 AM |
| – | Men often look for a stable relationship in order to have a regular sex life.I think people polarise this too much into "either or" extremes. Yes most men would rather be partnered than not, even to women who they don't have fairytale love kind of feelings for because sex is a thing. But that doesn't mean those guys fundamentally can't be good partners, can't commit, cannot also care about other things or are doing something wrong. See, we all seek out other people for many kinds of "selfish" reasons and then we build relationships with them so that people who used to be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 11:18 PM |
| 1 | Do Women Actually Believe Men's Dating Struggles Are Real?As a woman I agree we certainly know and we do not care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 01:00 AM |
| 2 | Do Women Actually Believe Men's Dating Struggles Are Real?This is super controversial, like actually controversial, but I actually think that's part of the reason why there's so many mental health issues and suicides among gay men even beyond what their female counterparts face. I think if you are socialised like that and you get faced with universe where suddenly you have unlimited access to sex for many people it means that you go a little sex crazy, fuck through world until you are all spent and find yourself entirely without meaning because where y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 12:48 AM |
| 1 | Do Women Actually Believe Men's Dating Struggles Are Real?I agree. I used to be a little snow white that was pure at heart and absolutely adored most people of both genders, especially fellow gamers because finally I had friends who understood my hobbies. I listened to everyone, I believed people when they told me about their experiences, I cared a ton and I was the opposite of cold and standoffish. But then once when hanging out with whole bunch of my friends one night, a guy who had always been weirdly withdrawn started sexually harassing little 14y … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 12:21 AM |
| 2 | Do Women Actually Believe Men's Dating Struggles Are Real?I just didn't believe it until I realised that my Scandinavian view point is not whole world and lot of places including US have ton of areas that truly do see men as the default providers and even though that's supposed to be only married men, the leap is way smaller from there. Even then my brain refuses to process it, it's like you told me that there's some distant Island culture where they eat kittens for breakfast, it doesn't compute. I can only imagine married women with small children goi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 11:32 PM |
| 1 | Wanting female treatment while not doing what women do is stupid.Lilith is a perfect angel stop talking shit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 09:12 PM |
| 4 | Women Keep Bringing Up Rape to Shut Down Male ConcernsAnd generally don't build atmosphere where it's easy to start escalating violent, manipulative or degratory behaviour towards women. Because it's slippery slope of acceptance and every time you accept more of it you make it easier for people who are going to go further than some hateful speech to hide in plain sight. If you bond with other men over hating women or intentionally being shit to women you are contributing to how problem stays hidden (and to how you & many others remain ignorant of w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 07:00 PM |
| 32 | Women Keep Bringing Up Rape to Shut Down Male ConcernsI think he's doing some reaching and equating "nobody is obligated to fuck you" response with complaining about existing rape, which it's not. I don't know how he's reaching that conclusion but it's what it appears based on how he wrote about it. (Obviously, that line isn't there to suggest that every lonely man is out trying to force someone, but underline that 99/100 all attempts to "solve" loneliness for men always come back to restricting and coercing women in some way therefore it's a topic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Women "love" men for what they do for them, not who they are.I believe in God and I believe something in you is resisting being in peace with it because you haven't done the thinking and growth to arrive at peaceful conclusions by yourself in your own pace. The task God gave you is still a work under process and forcing you to accept conclusions someone else grew into wouldn't be the same as walking the road yourself as he intended. Just my 2 cents from another religious person. Sometimes he doesn't want you to reinvent the wheel but go through your own j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 04:29 PM |
| 3 | Women "love" men for what they do for them, not who they are.Probably they don't want that with him. In which case it's fine to acknowledge his reality and pay for sex so that the both parties get something out of it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 04:23 PM |
| 3 | Women "love" men for what they do for them, not who they are.Agree. It sounds like fear fuelled extreme and not how love works or has ever worked between adults | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 04:08 PM |
| 3 | Women have no idea what an average man isYou assume that women have to manage to chain down Chad in order to deem their endeavour worthy. You think failing to secure him in relationship means they'd rather have dated Bob. You only seem to think this because if they could get him commit they would, but that's like saying that people who also want dessert after already eating satisfying meal or who'd rather be restaurant owners but can't be are failing because they don't visit local bar for french fries and stale pizza instead (the bar i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 10:17 AM |
| 1 | Women have no idea what an average man isAnd it's probably not any of the groups of easily visible, seemingly available women either. Most normal women (in sense of stable, reasonably happy women without ulterior motives) don't chase male attention and don't actively put themselves in places where they are extra visible to even more men. It'd be like someone in Sahara signing up for sand buying websites and hanging out in places sand sellers frequent. If you can find her and see her easily, she's much more likely some sort of grifter b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 09:30 AM |
| 0 | Q4W: Do men who speak out in favor of men's rights and issues and object to misandry deserve to be canceled?I don't know if you will get cancelled honestly. You might get targeted by same folk who are trying to chase incels posing as men's rights activists out, or you might not because mobs of people tend to do broad swipes and Tate bros existence is doing this topic no favours. I personally hope that when you dare to, you will still express your views. MRAs do get associated with misogynist shit a lot but that will never change if it's the only exposure anyone has to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/26 08:29 PM |
| 7 | What *specific* social missteps are common among romantically struggling men?One of the central ones is learning perspective. This is something that people who haven't been under intense pressure to learn social skills from early enough age to get used to it tend to hate because our brains don't like to be challenged in conflicting ways that seemingly "threaten" our perceptions (they don't), but rare things you think are objective are actually as objective as you think. That thinking isn't natural to me as an autistic person and it took me long time to actually get so it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/26 07:52 PM |
| 9 | Heterosexuality in women should be stigmatised as much as homosexuality in men is in our societyEasy agree on that. It almost seems like someone was using this sub to test some form of artificial intelligence because no way did an actual human hallucinate that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/26 07:28 PM |
| 1 | Yes, some women actually want to be single and childlessYou really should pay more critical attention to what you watch from TV. Bechdel test got famous for a reason. That reason is badly written female characters in about 90% or more of media mostly ever talk about men - but we wouldn't call them badly written and hold failing it as a standard between good and bad quality writing, if the reality most actual women live in didn't conflict with it hard. It doesn't produce believable and life like characters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/26 06:22 PM |
| 2 | Yes, some women actually want to be single and childlessI don't think your comment should have been downvoted. There's nothing controversial about it, you just shared trends that have been true around you in your life. This place is weird sometimes. You just said women and men around you tended to stay single for different reasons, where for women it was more general life plan and for men lack of inspiring enough opportunities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/26 06:16 PM |
| 1 | Yes, some women actually want to be single and childlessAs if. Has it occurred to you that a man can't change who a woman is as a person just like woman cannot change who man is as a person even if they fall in love? She won't magically become someone who prefers being in a relationship if she never preferred it. Do you also think men who love to sleep around and have always found the idea of commitment stifling somehow stop thinking about other women just because they fell in love? Do you also think their partner is just not the one for them if they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/26 06:08 PM |
| 3 | Yes, some women actually want to be single and childlessIf it wasn't that way for men, they'd actually participate and do it more consistently. Instead they are the most common parent to avoid their duties and pawn their children off to female relatives if they are expected to watch them. It's laughable you suggest men have ever had anything to do with duty when the duty part is consistently carried out by someone else. Men want children like children want puppies, there's nothing about duty involved when they are not counting on doing any of the wor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/26 05:53 PM |
| 8 | Women, especially women aware of their privilege, have made it abundantly clear that men have no reason to harbor even basic goodwill towards them or regard them as potential allies in any endeavor.Otherwise much more unwanted and useless husbands would have been poisoned in the past when it was difficult to prove and rare organisations cared if it happened or not. Instead poisonings of even abusive husbands are mostly limited to extreme cases where everyone else's survival warrants it. Actually forget about past because in many places you still only sit measly few years for a murder if you are first time offender who is generally good at following society's rules. If women only cared abou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/26 07:48 AM |
| – | Men should be taught that they are most likely going to be aloone if they don't improveMen being lonely is not womens problem to fix just like women being lonely is not men's problem to fix. One problem exists plenty more than the other, which is why men get the suggestions to improve. Agree on the decentering, it's not healthy to focus on someone else that much and there's near zero chance that energy is ever returned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/26 05:57 AM |
| – | Men should be taught that they are most likely going to be aloone if they don't improveAlso looks only get you in from the door but that's equivalent of receiving apprenticeship. Getting to have sex might look like big deal and compared to not having any it probably is, but one won't be getting laid very frequently if they fuck up their relationship(s). Like sure they could stay single and hope that there's someone in the bar every night to take them home just because of their looks but realistically it's probably only going to be the weekends and maybe biweekly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/26 05:48 AM |
| – | Men should be taught that they are most likely going to be aloone if they don't improveI agree. The only valuable part is possibly that men should be openly told by everyone including their mother that unless they see ginormous effort or epically luck out there is huge probability that they might end up being single for most of their life or all of it. They should know women are picky because that's literally the reality and always has been. It's nice coating things on fairytale dust and assuming there's someone for everyone and that it will just happen but it shouldn't lead to an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/26 05:37 AM |
| 3 | Having hobbies is essential for having individualality and being interstingI agree. To me Op sounds like he has trouble connecting with people in general and needs them to be constant broadcast of stuff in order to find something about them special, like another tv or radio. If one is actually interested in other people rather than only interested in their own interests it's not that hard to have good conversation with about anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/26 08:48 PM |
| 1 | Having hobbies is essential for having individualality and being interstingLosers or old and long since paired up. I browse this sub because it kind of amuses me and brings back memories. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/26 08:41 PM |
| 1 | Younger women are just more attractive.I also think that lot of men are without realising it attracted to women who already have children, like their expressions voice and body shapes. A lot of features that are amplified by having had pregnancy that didn't kill you are almost universally attractive so I do think there's something about our ancestors liking partners who had already proven it (at least before farming communities and increasing importance of ownership changed dynamics around how children are raised and how important it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/26 02:46 PM |
| 3 | 2 core problems with modern dating: no more clear rules, and expecting immediate “magic” attraction.I think that's actually important one. Even if you open TV it's full of women without agency in their own lives and men who just appear and sweep them off their feet. In fact many female characters aren't built enough to actually exist on their own or have plans and preferences before that happens, it's like the guy they fall for because of his "excellency" makes them come live and get dialogue and "personality" that they otherwise don't have. Whatever that does to relationship dynamics is certa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/26 09:34 AM |
| 3 | 2 core problems with modern dating: no more clear rules, and expecting immediate “magic” attraction.I think common folks too saw their parents, relatives and friends getting involved more in finding them a partner. Which isn't necessarily bad, I think we are missing on something that could make life easier there. But I also think lot of that was driven by actual need to pair up and procreate for things like social status, care during your elderly years and basic life being structured around gender roles in a way it no longer is. Basically if you were single in the past you didn't live alone an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/26 09:27 AM |
| 3 | Why do toxic guys always seem to have girlfriends, but normal guys struggle?You covered the hard forms of abuse well. I think it's also that when it comes to milder forms of toxicity like not actively abusing partner physically but absolutely exploiting them for free labour, not doing your chores and generally not thinking about them as much as you should, lot of the guys who hear women talk about it think "if I had her I would treat her better" but that's only because they see her as an unicorn that's going to solve all their problems and give them motivation that they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/26 08:27 AM |
| 2 | Men complain about “women being able to detect bad men” when they are considered the bad men.Also why'd you assume that having intuition, something that's pretty normal human quality, means that you'll somehow be immune to being fooled by anyone at all. Nobody claims that and bending and twisting what women are actually saying into something insane on purpose just so they can get to call women stupid is misogynist and hateful as hell. That's like taking a guy who successfully dodges two bad situations because he gets a feeling something isn't right but gets robbed once and saying that h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/26 01:08 PM |
| 2 | Is it wrong for men to learn social skills to become more attractive to women? If so then what should these men do?And my experience is the exact opposite of yours. Why would you, as a man, know the best what women will find creepy and off-putting? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 08:07 AM |
| 6 | Women hypocritically dismiss men complaining about not having sex, yet get angry if a pro life person tells them not to have sex.Womens ire doesn't come from that you want sex, it comes from that you threaten their autonomy and expect them to solve it for you. Even seemingly benign talking points like wanting to create better sex robots usually get mixed up with aggressive misogyny and desire to punish women for not wanting sex with all the lonely males. If you didn't fantasize about punishing all women for practicing body autonomy in same breath you talk about solutions you wouldn't be met with hostility. But because you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 06:06 AM |
| 3 | Is it wrong for men to learn social skills to become more attractive to women? If so then what should these men do?That ignores that male side of dating apps is actually 90% full of catfishes, prince of Persias illegitimate sisters, abandoned profiles and women who are not sure they would even like to start dating or who dislike apps because it doesn't line up with the actual romantic experience they want (which means they'll inevitably end up not wanting it at all) but who were told to try them and who will disappear after two conversations. Also women who are not at all ready to start dating but who regist… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 05:08 AM |
| -1 | Is it wrong for men to learn social skills to become more attractive to women? If so then what should these men do?And trust your female friends when they tell you to choose the photo you hate where you got the "goofy" smile that's actually cute instead of the photo where you are tensing your jaw to make it look bigger and (unknowingly to yourself) look like creep. Looks matter but just like you can't make chocolate ice cream appear like it's peach and you'll have really poor results if you sign it up to category meant for chocolate ice cream, you can't simply choose to look like the guy you adore and look u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 04:40 AM |
| 0 | Is it wrong for men to learn social skills to become more attractive to women? If so then what should these men do?First, the issue is like others have pointed out misogyny. In effort to boost the confidence of men who are - I say this without disdain or inherent moral value attached - simply too weak to approach women, it puts women down, grossly. And that's more than just a PR issue, it causes real world problems that don't evaporate after few months when you have got the help you needed and are beginning to get unstuck. I want to emphasise that my issue isn't that those men are weak (in this one extent). … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 03:48 AM |
| 3 | There are a FAR too many cons than pros for dating for men.Virtually no woman wants pregnancy whether they want kids or not. I know you are exhausted because PPD gets busy but you could try a little | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/26 11:20 PM |
| 1 | There are a FAR too many cons than pros for dating for men.It's easier for both genders to be alone. You may not see it from the other side even though you have made some effort to understand but relationships in general just add unwanted difficulty to everyone's life. If we were actually wise we'd lock men in one portion of planet, women in other and bisexual/gay people in third while trying to figure out how to stop the bisexual/gay section from fucking each other. Unfortunately (or fortunately depending how one looks at it) people are less rational t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/26 10:31 PM |
| 8 | There are a FAR too many cons than pros for dating for men.Nobody would consent to pregnancy if one could have same end result without it that's my point. Those women don't want the horrifying body modifying experience any more just because they want the end result, it's still something they have to put up with just like you have to put up with your problems and it's a huge thing to put on anyone. Can you see how from that perspective it would look like incredible advantage that you can technically have same end result but without all the horror? Treati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/26 10:22 PM |
| 7 | There are a FAR too many cons than pros for dating for men.Look at those videos and tell me if you would want that to happen to your body, can you even imagine it. Chances are other people don't want that either. This is the developing empathy I spoke to you about. And don't half ass it, actually view it with thought. It's actually horrifying. If you were woman you'd have grown up hearing from everyone in your life that's been through it that it's horrifying and that they never would have repeated the experience for second child if they didn't forget so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/26 10:10 PM |
| 10 | There are a FAR too many cons than pros for dating for men.Pregnancy is always bad and unwanted you dear summer child. The resulting child isn't. But nobody wants their insides rearranged (look actual video what happens to organs if you can without throwing up), their teeth suffer, their feet swell and their blood pressure do numbers that would get you sent to ER in any other situation. If you think for a moment there'd be women queuing to be pregnant if there was an option for it you are delusional. That condition is only ever liked for end result. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/26 10:03 PM |
| 8 | There are a FAR too many cons than pros for dating for men.You are also only speaking for yourself. Nobody is ditching guys they were interested in left and right because they didn't dance correct steps, they are doing it because those guys did stupid shit. This is common and we know there are social reasons for it. And realising you did stupid shit takes learning finesse which is hard work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/26 09:55 PM |
| 10 | There are a FAR too many cons than pros for dating for men.I've ditched nobody in my life because they sucked at seduction. I've ditched plenty of guys for actually being selfish. I could write bible about it and maybe it's ruthless because yes some mistakes are small... but actually spending significant chunk of your time into developing your skills in empathy would have fixed every error that led to me discarding a guy I was interested in. Notice I'm not saying natural talent because it doesn't matter (in this context) if you feel empathy if you are u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/26 09:40 PM |
| 3 | Men that want to be seen as "hookup material" should only date women who hookup with themFinnish men do just that. Kinda proud of them because the practicality of finns shows up in doing this one obvious thing just as the sense would suggest. Out of women I have known since we were teen-agers roughly 1/4 just kept fucking their way through bar until one morning both parties decided they have someone they don't want to throw out and they just didn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/26 08:34 PM |
| – | fat women are hypocritesI only knew one woman like this in my life and she was 19 at the time. Dunno if she still has same priorities but somehow I doubt. Being a teenager / young adult just sucks because everyone is projecting their own insecurities on their partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/26 08:29 PM |
| 4 | Always wanted to know - What do men mean exactly when they say "Women have the power to destroy society?"I was going to point out it's true but it doesn't justify actively attacking someone's human rights because one who gives birth gets to decide whether they do it or not and if you aren't happy then you need to invest in research and give birth yourself instead of abusing someone whose only crime is existing (because that's what it is when you treat other human like commodity). The solution to not being able to create is not destruction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/26 08:08 PM |
| 1 | Women's biggest blind spot is other womenMy problem with criticising and calling out women is that I can't do it in a bubble where misogyny doesn't exist and where there aren't multiple misogynists plus ton of well meaning but ignorant community members ready to jump throats and blow it out proportion. If I'm able to do it privately I will call them out. But after seeing how smallest roast over something like dodgy finances can even destroy woman's whole career while in the meantime men in same position get to be pedophiles, oppressors… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/26 09:54 AM |
| 1 | Women need to embrace, modernity all the way.Both of you have point because value of man to woman and woman to man will never be same no matter what we do... and at the same time at least in relationships one should aim for balance as much as they can simply because those relationships aren't just mating arrangements that base solely on sex but also human to human relationships built and maintained consciously where both "builders" should want each others best. In hook-ups and short relationships I'm inclined to agree it's just nature's or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/26 09:34 AM |
| 2 | Women need to embrace, modernity all the way.Ones head over heels in love because then the giving becomes about your person rather than being socially obligated to or having to do it to keep them (because it's true we are well aware we don't "have to" as he could be king of Persia and we wouldn't need him for being a man). But for most people of both genders that kind of "throwing all of myself in" attitude stops after first few times of getting burned in love when you realise there are so many users looking for person just like you withou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/26 09:22 AM |
| 2 | Women approaching men should be the norm.Asia has cultures where women approach men, my Philippino friends get approached because that way around is normal for them. It's not impossible, it's just very hard to implement and sometimes it feels like you guys don't want to hear how attitudes men have like whore Madonna complex which is less Asia thing and more western Christian culture thing (not talking about religious people but how culture was shaped which affects everyone) contribute to the problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 10:09 AM |
| 3 | You're just not that guy. Its ok. There's nothing wrong that.I kinda agree with you but it would require people to much more consistently to be much better people. One guy one gal reduces drama any time idiocy occurs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 06:10 AM |
| 3 | Straight women’s homophobia toward men gets excused way too easilyYeah and the obsession with their partners asses too (notes: someone else's ass that's not their property). God forbid straight guy has figured out they enjoy fingering themselves and hell is loose because it's dirty, which is just another word for gay because it's obvious based on circumstance that it's not really about hygiene because nobody is actually discussing washing. So it's not even just bi guys who get the hate and get their sexuality stomped over and controlled to point they are terri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 06:00 AM |
| 8 | Straight women’s homophobia toward men gets excused way too easilyAs a bi woman I join your bi camp of agreeing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 05:58 AM |
| 9 | Straight women’s homophobia toward men gets excused way too easilyI have actual two friends who are gay men and the number of times they feel objectified and harassed by straight women who have ton of assumptions and who are not looking to appreciate them for people they are but are trying to use them as next accessory. Not talking over them, that's something I've heard from both separately in number of different incidents. One puts up with some amount of being called a girl for fun or some other weird stuff from people he just met because he is just persisten… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 05:54 AM |
| 3 | You're just not that guy. Its ok. There's nothing wrong that.You sound like my ex who once came face to face with idea that it's possible for more than one woman to like the guy at same time and got absolutely horrified about mere idea how much trouble that would be. And no I didn't prompt that conversation, I can't remember what did but I do remember the genuine abject horror because he really likes his life easy, simple and logical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 05:49 AM |
| 3 | You're just not that guy. Its ok. There's nothing wrong that.I'm a who knows what pilled woman and I honestly agree. If you feel resentful because your partner might be less attracted to you than some other guy that they have seen or fucked at some point, and if it's a constant competition where you have to one up that guy but you never can, then relationships are not for you. You aren't going to "win" by twisting the fundamental rules of how life works so you have to make your pick what you can personally make peace with. Rare of us are supermodels or ex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 05:01 AM |
| 1 | Why exactly is women wanting money from men worse than men wanting sex with womenNothing is "being taken" passively from men who pay for things to get and maintain attention of women either. It's being given voluntarily, just like time invested in (bad) sex is being given away voluntarily. This is true whether the additional motivator that makes the person bother with less than satisfying sex is attention, company or being done other favours back. Just like men paying for things is done voluntarily regardless of what's motivating them. Your argument only works if you allow e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/26 04:29 AM |
| 1 | How do women view friendship with men?It's a bit too much to give up half of ones lifelong opportunities to connect with other people just for the sake of theoretical sex that could or could not happen if all chips fell into place. It's like one can't see anything else except sexual context in life if everything has to first pass series of who would fuck who tests that likely will never matter in practice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/26 04:42 AM |
| 1 | How do women view friendship with men?I agree that's the real issue lot of the time. I got more than one friend different gender from me with whom we had to almost stop being friends because of that. In my opinion it goes best if people just admit their significant other is is the problem, make it clear they don't blame their friend for it and make mutual decision to loosen a little bit in keeping contact.. because then both people in friendship know 100% what happened and if the romantic relationship either doesn't last or the pers… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/26 04:30 AM |
| 2 | How do women view friendship with men?I feel the same as you. I think it's down to me being autistic though because I just have zero chance of predicting what's going to happen next and what someone is going to make out of something that never even occurred me as a thought. Also, it's so much harder to go "oh poor baby how could your hotel bed be too uncomfortable" when you aren't putting up with being uncomfortable 24/7 all your life while getting zero condolences for it. I do not think men make better friends, I can appreciate the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/26 04:22 AM |
| 1 | How do women view friendship with men?My bisexual perspective is the same as yours. Oddly, before I even realised I was bisexual I was already indifferent to and pretty indiscriminate about whether my friends are same gender as me or not. All I ever cared was loyalty and shared hobbies | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/26 04:12 AM |
| 2 | If your bf/husband died how would you react? How would it impact your life and how long would you wait before moving on?Look if you can't separate love and sex from each other (are you demisexual) it's fine find someone who agrees with you, but the reality is that this planet is full of people who can and you don't get to impose it on them. I'm saying this as a person who actually is demisexual, though my flavour of demisexuality isn't romantic and I literally throw up at concept of soulmates or any of that shit. You can be as you are but it's just wiring one was born with or not and you don't get to moralise it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/26 08:22 PM |
| 1 | If your bf/husband died how would you react? How would it impact your life and how long would you wait before moving on?I don't think I'd move on but it's not because I'm romantic, it's more that practically I'm of the age where it makes more sense to get donor conceived babies than start gambling the remainder of my fertility window to find a guy who I simply do not have time to make sure deserves to be anyone's parent. That kind of sense is easier to predict than ones actual emotional reactions. But like you say I'm not 100% sure because it could be that the grief from him suddenly not being there might mess wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/26 07:57 PM |
| 2 | So how do you know that a guy is not a fuckboy?You are probably not predatory fuck boy which it seems whole thread is about. Fuck boys who look for win win with similarly attuned women are really just a benefit that everyone loves exists whether they admit it or not | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 08:30 PM |
| 4 | So how do you know that a guy is not a fuckboy?How do you know if people in general like you or just want to use you? You don't. Your best bet is listening to your intuition. And then remembering that even people who genuinely like you aren't always good for you. It fails sometimes and you don't detect someone wants to use you instead of liking you. Those cases you just adjust accodingly (believe people when they show you who they are) and move on with your life. I think making biggest threat about sex is pretty misleading because in reality… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 08:25 PM |
| 1 | Men often don’t really know what they’re attracted toYour explanation is pretty good. There are inevidable gender dynamics that come from broader cultural context that can make conversation between two people which would be fine if it was isolated from culture we live in actually not fine because in the end we don't exist in bubble. The existence of abusive men, and how common they unfortunately are does make it pretty hard for a man to jab back once the conversation has crossed certain subtle lines from being fair criticism to character assassina… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 08:06 PM |
| 1 | This question is primarily for men, but open to anyone. If you woke up as a straight woman, what kind of partner would you go for?I'm bi and it's the same for me. My type in any gender is pretty much the same. I want a support player not central stage star, and I tend to like people who are pretty rather than handsome or beautiful. I don't care about muscles in any gender. I'm probably so monotonous in my preferences that it's weird but then again no matter who the other party is I'm still me so it makes sense nothing too wild is happening in my preferences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 03:19 AM |
| 1 | Men should date conservative women instead of wasting their time online arguing with self-proclaimed liberal womenWant or are happy enough to have are different things. Conservative men are going to make those women gag much harder than being one of two women in a stable polycule formed by one guy and two women. That's hardly a harem nor is it impersonal in any way, some people even sleep in one big bed where middle is for person with two partners and sides for each partner. You just live with your partner and a good friend who is also their partner so not bad arrangement at all. And for liberal women not f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 02:59 AM |
| -3 | If women treated men like men treat women we would love it.And Volvo's aren't inherently ugly but penises absolutely are. Eww | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 01:26 AM |
| 2 | The courting process never ends for men.I would be cynical too if I had your experience. I don't think most humans mind is meant to process self centredness that exceeds limits we are capable of fathoming and results in complete disregard of someone else. So when that happens we try to cope any way we can some of which might turn into unhealthy outlook | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 02:06 AM |
| 1 | The courting process never ends for men.Maybe Op just hasn't met a person whose company he enjoys like that and other way around and the stifling feeling is actually coming from awkwardness that comes when you try really hard to do something and somewhat enjoy it but overall it's just not for you because you are trying to make yourself do something that doesn't come naturally. Enjoying right persons company comes naturally to most. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 02:00 AM |
| 1 | The courting process never ends for men.What that sounds like to me is "I want a new mother but one that also fucks me" and inability to move past vision of one and exactly one existing female role in ones life that is ones mother or copies of it that every consequent woman has to fit or aspire to fit. Peer relationships are transactional and if they compared her to their friendships with other men they'd land closer than just assuming she's there to fill their moms shoes because of gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 01:45 AM |
| – | If women were physically stronger, we'd be seeing a lot more cases of female on male sexual assault.Well genes correlated with almost anything except very very narrow number of things mostly related to having penis basically have to be in X chromosomes because that's only chromosome that by itself is remotely compatible with forming anything necessary for life. Y is like browser add-on while X is the whole initial software. Which I guess does lead to inevitable conclusion that everything humans are capable of including capacity to extreme evil is well within limits for both genders. Can have c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/26 01:24 PM |
| 3 | Men should date conservative women instead of wasting their time online arguing with self-proclaimed liberal womenPeople come up with solutions. You know it's not rare for a liberal man to be part of non monogamous arrangement. Sometimes that's open marriage, sometimes it's polycule. Either case more than one lady gets entertained. There's also that liberal men and women divorce too so if he divorces regularly every 10 years even though he's monogamous with each partner there are still 4 different women who get something by the time he's 60. Assuming some of those are 20-30 woman, 30-40 woman and 40-50 woma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/26 01:10 PM |
| 5 | Men should date conservative women instead of wasting their time online arguing with self-proclaimed liberal womenThat's true. Liberal women have big range of men they accept as a person and in general but don't want as a spouse, because their standards get narrow only when it concerns their own life. Conservative women are more likely to align in who they accept in general and would accept as a partner, although both of those standards are narrow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/26 12:53 PM |
| 2 | Is there a way to make dating fair for men ethically - without reducing the rights of women, or challenging the autonomy of others?If it actually worked and created more wellbeing and happiness, using taxes to pay for it shouldn't be out of question because taxes and things like government exist to make society better for people. Question is would it work though, because it doesn't appear existence of prostitution actually does anything to make incels less of a problem to society as it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/26 05:37 AM |
| 2 | Is there a way to make dating fair for men ethically - without reducing the rights of women, or challenging the autonomy of others?This. Treating people like meat in supermarket doesn't help our society in any way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/26 05:33 AM |
| 1 | Is there a way to make dating fair for men ethically - without reducing the rights of women, or challenging the autonomy of others?I think AI girlfriends could actually also help in eventually making humans meet each other better, as long as people actually stay clear headed about the difference .. and as long as we can regulate the use of them enough that it doesn't become just another way to exploit existing discrepancy. There are lot of grating conversations that AI can handle with lot more grace and patience than humans, particularly stuff that comes up with people who have never dated anybody before. I know I'm looking… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/26 05:17 AM |
| 2 | Is there a way to make dating fair for men ethically - without reducing the rights of women, or challenging the autonomy of others?As if there aren't options between what he suggested and the fear mongering extreme you jumped into. Making rich pay actual taxes doesn't mean technology suddenly stops existing, and income transfers and other things government is actually supposed to manage actually boost the economy because people who need that money for living are less likely to sit on it. Rich might not like the initial stages of that rearrangement but it's much easier to produce technology if vast majority of people can aff… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/26 04:58 AM |
| 1 | Is there a way to make dating fair for men ethically - without reducing the rights of women, or challenging the autonomy of others?Being shadow banned by algorithm that thinks you are ugly doesn't improve situation much, he has some kind of point. Realistically if a woman looking for date has to swipe away from three more guys that she is sure definitely aren't for her, she's probably not going to die or (if she's serious) quit looking because of it. If that keeps those guys getting exposed to more women that don't want them, I see no harm. I know it's complained about a lot but we all know women who are looking for long te… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/26 04:50 AM |
| 1 | Is there a way to make dating fair for men ethically - without reducing the rights of women, or challenging the autonomy of others?I like your ideas. Women shouldn't be forced to choose men they are not attracted to but also neither women or men should have their dating choices filtered by unnatural and restrictive capitalist system that keeps putting people who belong to lowest rank of desirability hierarchy into positions with enough power to ruin several other people's chances. And algorithms and fake female accounts exploiting desperation of men who already struggle is absolutely last thing we need | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/26 04:38 AM |
| 8 | Is there a way to make dating fair for men ethically - without reducing the rights of women, or challenging the autonomy of others?That's the truth. There's nothing we can do to fix the inherent lack of biological value (not to be confused with human worth) a man has in comparison to woman. That difference occurred when first living organisms lost their ability to become pregnant and became sex that can only provide genetic material, not multiply it. That change happened to benefit both the species as whole and the top performing individuals, because it forms bottle necks that in natural setting prevent next generation from… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/26 04:13 AM |
| 6 | Is there a way to make dating fair for men ethically - without reducing the rights of women, or challenging the autonomy of others?If you hate women more than you want to help yourself, perhaps you should rot in misery because you are just a bad person. One that needs to stuff wool in his ears just because women are talking about their issues and he doesn't care about half of humankind enough to listen (& is so hateful he makes active effort to not listen just because they are women) doesn't deserve better life anyway and I'm out of giving fucks about him. You can spoon feed it to basket cases in form that they won't refuse… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/26 03:47 AM |
| – | Do woman care how many Partners a Men had before?I thought you were discussing this in good faith and even made mistake of upvoting you. But nope, you just want to go around and troll a Reddit whose name is debate without occupying your actual brain. Try do something about why you are like this because it's bad for you and everyone else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/26 09:30 PM |
| – | Do woman care how many Partners a Men had before?It's same for me. It matters less how many times anyone did the deed than what they thought about it at the time and maybe afterwards. For me my exes are mistakes that I made because at the time I was in love with them, and now that I'm no longer in love with them and know they weren't my person I'd happily erase those memories and actually effectively have because not thinking about them ever has basically made them fade so much that I would be hard pressed to remember anything about those enco… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/26 09:10 PM |
| – | Do woman care how many Partners a Men had before?I disagree it's actually important by itself but I can also see that it could become baggage because there are men who start for example resenting their more experienced partner out of the blue in otherwise happy relationship even if they knew beforehand she has a history, because they can't deal with theirs. So it's potential issue that one should probably try to make sure they themselves don't have issue with so that they can assure their partner that it isn't. It's same as with short men - le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/26 08:58 PM |
| – | Do woman care how many Partners a Men had before?I don't think anyone truly applies double standard. It's just that because of misogyny we assume for a good reason that someone out to police women's choices who to sleep with isn't in actual reality extending same level of effort into shaming men for it because it would cost them more socially to do it or because it just won't occur to them to. Or because they consciously hold double standard and are open about it, but it's rarer than the previous two where treating people with double standard … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/26 08:49 PM |
| 2 | Men falsely claim that women lie about their preferences because they believe men are great.Some truth to that statement because almost every woman wants a guy who is able to go with flow and do fun and spontaneous things like have a tiny dance in the park at midnight or inspect the nearby industrial area together even if "it's not normal to go for a walk there" (provided it's safe). We want certain amount of "boundary pushers" what becomes to unnecessary norms and do not appreciate partners that are anxious about doing the "correct " expected thing all the time for no reason because t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/26 01:33 PM |
| 2 | Dating for Women is Not Like Looking for Clean Water in a Swamp; Rather, it is Like Looking for Healthy Food in a Grocery StoreHard agree. It's more like going to grocery store every day for six years but never buying anything and having to resort to farming in your backyard because there's never food that isn't outright poisoned and isn't junk food on any of the shelves. Until one day there's a single item that won't destroy your health and you buy that. Every woman who has reliably demonstrated they are able to pick well will tell you the same. Every woman who has no problem resisting salt and sugar or detecting poiso… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 11:46 PM |
| 2 | Men created the “high maintenance woman” they complain aboutI think it's both nature and culture. In Nordic societies education and healthcare is free and daycare is high quality and cheap so being saddled with babies doesn't mean automatic financial ruin. We also have multiple months of paid maternity leave that can even be extended on a year so women don't have to pick partners based on finances. That does effect how people date. For one it almost gets rid of age gap relationships compared to US or even South Europe. It also means first, second and thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 11:10 PM |
| 3 | Women have more bodily autonomy than men.You are confusing autonomy with ability. Mens bodies cannot produce children just like womens bodies cannot gain absurd amount of muscle without significantly higher effort. The sexes are different and even though we should aim to improve it for both - for example, we create technology that makes excessive use of physical force less necessary in everyday life, and we are working on growing human fetuses outside women's bodies - until we accomplish those things it's what it is. That's not a perso… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/26 01:12 PM |
| 7 | "I'm not going to date anyone I'm not attracted to, even if I die alone"Women married to men are unhappier, have less self confidence and less free time. If anything is mental health issue for women it's being with a man rather than being single. Ever wondered why most cherished romantic lovers of all times in fiction are men who die tragic deaths in the end, preferably while on noble cause, or who go away to war or get wrongfully imprisoned? Because, deep down, most if not all women who are paired up wish they could have had romance of a lifetime but without a resu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/26 08:30 AM |
| 1 | If attractive men use women as disposable with all that entails simply because they have options, then logically any man who will have options will behave like that, and others will just quietly want to, what makes a man a desirable to have in woman's life?I didn't insult you in any way. I even upvoted you initially because I thought you were just not noticing it. Turns out I wasted my breath on someone who is not arguing in good faith. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/26 06:51 PM |
| 13 | If attractive men use women as disposable with all that entails simply because they have options, then logically any man who will have options will behave like that, and others will just quietly want to, what makes a man a desirable to have in woman's life?Don't you think that might be projection on those guys behalf for same reasons that they are convinced all attractive guys are self centred? It seems to me that if they assume every other man is a jerk and his ability to do harm is the only thing keeping him from hurting people, and they assume same about women (only, this time women do have the ability so they assume every woman is using it) then the most likely person to actually be jerk are not all the women and all the other men but the pers… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/26 02:33 PM |
| 1 | If attractive men use women as disposable with all that entails simply because they have options, then logically any man who will have options will behave like that, and others will just quietly want to, what makes a man a desirable to have in woman's life?Seems like everyone is in agreement here though. We should steer clear of men like him because he is angry and it's unattractive, and he steers clear of relationship dynamics because he doesn't like those. Prostitutes don't account for their own desire as much as women outside that trade are likely to do, so if he wants to be equal with Chad then that sounds to me like good solution because his money is equal in that address. Me personally I'm fine with this thought process because either way th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/26 02:28 PM |
| -3 | If attractive men use women as disposable with all that entails simply because they have options, then logically any man who will have options will behave like that, and others will just quietly want to, what makes a man a desirable to have in woman's life?First solid argumentation in this thread by a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/26 02:23 PM |
| 4 | If attractive men use women as disposable with all that entails simply because they have options, then logically any man who will have options will behave like that, and others will just quietly want to, what makes a man a desirable to have in woman's life?I think it's okay to give cheaters crap though because either way that's a horrible choice. Otherwise no guy in their 20s should expect to have girlfriend that doesn't cheat on him because women in their 20s also have attractive men willing to move mountains for them throwing themselves at them. Multiple times a month I even got hit on at bus stop even though I barely gone anywhere, or even at car stop picking milk and some groceries. And yes I know it's for short term in most of those cases but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/26 02:20 PM |
| 2 | If attractive men use women as disposable with all that entails simply because they have options, then logically any man who will have options will behave like that, and others will just quietly want to, what makes a man a desirable to have in woman's life?Which actually makes men with no options riskier and not safer as incels try to argue, since they might just be wanting a mattress / bangmaid out of you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/26 02:10 PM |
| 1 | If attractive men use women as disposable with all that entails simply because they have options, then logically any man who will have options will behave like that, and others will just quietly want to, what makes a man a desirable to have in woman's life?I think what you describe is also scarcity driven. These days most men genuinely believe women are the ones that are being rewarded by a ring, just as you pointed out in your way, even in age groups where women commonly don't want to marry and may not even want to date. But in demographics where there are significantly less women than men, seen in some immigrants where gender ratio is screwed, men are the ones who value commitment and see it as a trophy and achievement for themselves. Wish I cou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/26 02:07 PM |
| 0 | If attractive men use women as disposable with all that entails simply because they have options, then logically any man who will have options will behave like that, and others will just quietly want to, what makes a man a desirable to have in woman's life?True. There's non insignificant overlap between PPD and 4b women for a reason. People's sexuality tends to fuck with their head especially after a while of being celibate so that every guy suddenly looks better and they are more inclined to assume good about random men they encounter. That's bothersome when one is committed to 4b for their own continued wellbeing. In those moments it's very useful to have place like this and remind oneself why dating men is actually bad idea compared to just usi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/26 01:56 PM |
| 1 | If attractive men use women as disposable with all that entails simply because they have options, then logically any man who will have options will behave like that, and others will just quietly want to, what makes a man a desirable to have in woman's life?Just comes to show orientation isn't a choice 🤦 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/26 01:51 PM |
| 0 | If attractive men use women as disposable with all that entails simply because they have options, then logically any man who will have options will behave like that, and others will just quietly want to, what makes a man a desirable to have in woman's life?I feel like you are "not all man" -ning the Ops argument. Just because the shoe doesn't fit you and your buddies (be glad it doesn't) doesn't mean that the argument didn't come from and isn't most commonly coming from men - or at least Russian bots presenting themselves as men, gaining friction from dumbass men who listen to anything any guy has to say especially if it's disrespectful to women. I will say, in normal subreddits most of the men are probably not upvoting that kind of rhetoric, but … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/26 01:47 PM |
| 0 | Common dating advice straight up doesn’t work for the average guy struggling with datingAnd ones that don't initially choose it tend to embrace it anyway instead of centralising it. The ugliest woman I know is the mother of one of girls I grew up with & our family friend. She turned it into victory. Focused on her studies, made plenty of money, skipped all relationship drama and has huge number of good friends. Did not get left by a deadbeat or mistreated by man who barely bothers just to have a baby, unlike all better looking women who are now divorced or wish they never married -… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/26 02:59 AM |
| 3 | Common dating advice straight up doesn’t work for the average guy struggling with datingI decided to upvote because I agreed so much to everything you said until that point but as autistic woman hearing you say women hate autistic men sounds like you are being unnecessarily hateful towards women as class instead of NT people as class, and blaming women for what is NT people's fault as whole even though autistic women are suffering from same discrimination from NT people as you are. Their dating life might not stop at it on initial stages but they are much more likely to suffer abus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/26 02:36 AM |
| 4 | Vague language is necessary for women’s world viewYeah there are even podcasts for people for whom reading isn't the strongest suit so no more excuses for lazy boys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/26 09:36 PM |
| 3 | Vague language is necessary for women’s world viewWell I guess that to make things truly equal, someone has to take it upon himself to be the himbo. (Here I am always trying to look at the bright side?) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/26 09:34 PM |
| – | Women feel free to blatantly disrespect Men they are not attracted to because of FeminismFor someone who denies rape culture and thinks men should get to speak lot of rapey trash with their friends and never get shunned for it who doesn't think this will protect predators who actually go on to rape someone and who is ready to treat any rape victim like liar under investigation you sure think a lot about your value to very people who you endanger by being willfully ignorant. Why would they want you in their lives ignoring the danger and claiming they are liars when worst happens to t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/26 09:09 PM |
| – | Women feel free to blatantly disrespect Men they are not attracted to because of FeminismNot being attracted to someone isn't disrespect. It's not even doing anything to the person who one isn't attracted to, it's just existing without being attracted to the person. Now, if one is shouting it from the rooftops seeking to insult ALL the people who they are not attracted to without any other reason than that they aren't attracted to them and now everrrryone is forced to hear about it in hopes that it hurts someone that you have no business chastising, sure we have reached the level of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/26 08:40 PM |
| 9 | What do you like about men?That's it for me too. Not experiencing attraction without interaction doesn't mean that I'm unattracted. I just need to talk with him and experience his voice, interests and personality for the part that makes it to the interaction. I need to hang out with him and experience I can have good time with him. After that I can start appreciating the chest hair, the shoulders, the manly angularity and other attributes alike. Without interaction the pull (to look at those things, to feel excited about … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/26 12:10 PM |
| 5 | Men know that they have to compete but when it's time to act they give up to their egoYou do not and cannot have "equal right" to someone else's body. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/26 09:49 PM |
| – | Male sexuality just seems borderline antisocial to meYou wrote what I as a woman in my 30s was way too lazy to write. Relationships and attraction manage to exist between extreme end parameters just fine. I think you and me are probably older than lot of people of both genders who are freaking out over shit like this in purple pill debate and it probably explains why I couldn't agree more with every word you just wrote. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 04:54 PM |
| – | Male sexuality just seems borderline antisocial to meWhich shouldn't be demonised. Because in the end the men's "wide net" guarantees that when a woman has time, resources and willingness to raise children she can easily have them and be selective with whom because large number of men will have at least some interest. Women may get blamed for chasing Chads and men may get blamed for trying to be a Chad, but in the end both dynamics exist to give the next generation best shot at working immune system and overall good health. It's inherently good th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/26 04:35 PM |
| 2 | Sought after men's behaviour is making it hard for normal women to get an LTRI just sussed out they are troll. And it turned out I'm right too because it you use search for their posts they are conservative Muslim man pretending to be a woman. You guys just really believe anything even if it makes no zilch of sense and is obvious incel fever dream. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/26 03:59 PM |
| 1 | Sought after men's behaviour is making it hard for normal women to get an LTRThose pressures apply on women too yet somehow they manage to do their homework. Vast majority of 18y old girls don't even get married the moment they hit the age and most households are dual income. They do not have more opportunities, they use them better. Now, boys being lazy is an issue that needs to be looked at but nobody is discriminating them based on gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/26 02:05 PM |
| 2 | Sought after men's behaviour is making it hard for normal women to get an LTRNo but it does usually filter for basic stability because studies take too much a toll on people to have untreated borderline personality disorder or something similar. Nothing is 100% idiot proof but I believe odds are heavily on side this is a troll because it sounds like incel fever dream caricature of "a woman". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/26 01:58 PM |
| 1 | Sought after men's behaviour is making it hard for normal women to get an LTRIt's not about IQ, it's about not having serious personality disorder like borderline personality disorder or some other severe destabilizing factor. Those do tend to reduce chances you get higher education because lack of stability tends to drop you from pursuing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/26 01:54 PM |
| -2 | Sought after men's behaviour is making it hard for normal women to get an LTRBecause I have never seen it and I know huge range of professional women due to my own social background. Studying in high pressure environments doesn't filter out all the "bad people" but it does tend to filter out people who are mentally extremely unstable at least if they are this unstable while still at school. I just can't imagine any of the hundreds of high educated women I've come across to utter half of this, it's not on brand. Something isn't right here. I vote incel who is trolling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/26 01:49 PM |
| 6 | Sought after men's behaviour is making it hard for normal women to get an LTRPreach! On very slim off chance this is a real woman and not an incel revenge fantasy, some serious reflection is in place because whole piece was horrifying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/26 01:45 PM |
| 1 | Sought after men's behaviour is making it hard for normal women to get an LTRI'm a woman and I'm like 99% sure it's incel revenge fantasy troll because no woman is that miserable. It isn't even about men truly, it's about basic independence so that you don't start whining and take it personally when someone doesn't want to date you because of [list of qualities] . It goes for both genders but I'm having really hard time believing an academic woman who is mentally well enough to study in high pressure environment would write that rant. Sure she could be a marginal case bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/26 01:38 PM |
| 2 | Sought after men's behaviour is making it hard for normal women to get an LTRAs I've said elsewhere I don't believe it's even woman. Sounds like incel troll spreading some revenge fantasy. Whole my family and extended networks are full of academic women and I have literally never heard them complain about fuckboys or get competitive over some random Nigel. Financial independence tends to help with male centric toxicity, not make it whatever Op is on about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/26 01:28 PM |
| -5 | Sought after men's behaviour is making it hard for normal women to get an LTRHow are men in "systematic disadvantage" when whole education model was literally designed for them and hasn't changed much in last multiple hundred years. If you mean "boys not bothering to do their homework" that's an issue but not systematic disadvantage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/26 01:24 PM |
| – | Sought after men's behaviour is making it hard for normal women to get an LTRI think it's incel troll because no woman is that stupid | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/26 01:20 PM |
| 1 | “We want consistency” is a lie. If it wasn’t about immediate sex, you would never require it.I can't name one single thing because personal chemistry is complicated but I have noticed that I get along better with people who are either neurospicy (autism or ADHD) or have that in their family even if they themselves aren't so I guess it's about being on unusual wavelength. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/26 03:22 AM |
| 3 | “We want consistency” is a lie. If it wasn’t about immediate sex, you would never require it.Makes sense. I have to vet in different order because I can hardly tolerate most people in my surroundings for longer than two hours without being exhausted beyond belief even if I don't hate them. This creates obvious big barrier for creating relationships in my life. In the meantime I'm relatively indiscriminate or at least not picky about sexual chemistry among people I actually like enough on person to person level and I've never had problems with it. I mean, I haven't ended up in dead bedro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/26 08:34 PM |
| 2 | “We want consistency” is a lie. If it wasn’t about immediate sex, you would never require it.Well I have to fix my statement a little I don't think it's only specific to you and no one else in the world, I just mean that it probably comes down to your personality as what sounds like rather extroverted and people friendly person. I have to admit when I read your comments in other threads I first thought "wtf" .... But when I read this and started understanding you frequently hang out with lot of people and don't have much problems getting to the "this person likes me and I like them" sta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/26 07:56 PM |
| 4 | “We want consistency” is a lie. If it wasn’t about immediate sex, you would never require it.It honestly sounds like this is a situation specific to you. You get along with and have good friend chemistry with so many people that it's not something you take extra effort to prioritise vetting for in romantic relationships. Which isn't the same thing as that it doesn't matter to you, it's just it's plentiful and you don't need to search for it spesifically. So what that leaves you with is vetting all the people you already have great friend chemistry with for ones that you have the stronge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/26 06:39 PM |
| 2 | “We want consistency” is a lie. If it wasn’t about immediate sex, you would never require it.I think it's small subset of men and that it will solve itself because wanting things that typically aren't on the table with women and refusing to understand why will get them with women who aren't typical, which will get them about 99% split of unstable women and 1% of the unicorn they were chasing at the cost of all other variables. So either way they'll be away from bugging rest of the women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/26 06:28 PM |
| 1 | Women do not deserve betterThat's a lot of words for that you want to be selfish shit who doesn't give crap about other people. Sure nobody can prevent you. But then don't cry when being selfish shit comes with consequences or when you get called out for it. Many people aren't as rotten as you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/26 06:15 PM |
| 5 | Women do not deserve betterThat's an incel fever dream. At no point in thousands of years of history have women made or attempted to make a single law to force men to be with them. It's not even talking point that exists. That's completely delusional. If men cannot control themselves even so much that they don't tear down society because they didn't get pussy, they belong in prison like every other person who can't control themselves enough to live by social contract for whatever reason. The solution isn't mandating them … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/26 06:07 PM |
| 10 | Women do not deserve betterWhat avenues for men to improve themselves have feminists taken from you? I simply don't see this happening unless said avenues somehow involve coercing women to participate romantically and sexually, but those "avenues" were obviously not removed to spite men but in attempt to end the using because women are people too. Waiting you to name some avenues that don't involve holding other people in a bind | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/26 05:58 PM |
| 1 | Does reasonable expectation of sex exist?Why wouldn't you be able to masturbate if you are in relationship, and why you need an agreement for it? That's genuinely weirdest thing I've read today and this is Reddit. Your body is your body even if you are committed so how come you couldn't touch yourself if need to | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/26 04:10 AM |
| 2 | Does reasonable expectation of sex exist?No they don't. Sex can't be owed and no one is doing anything wrong by saying no. It can torpedo relationship but they are still within their right to say no, unlike someone who owes to debtor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/26 04:03 AM |
| 4 | Asking women out is a brutal processYep. Attraction has expiration date if it's not fed and fuelled, and presenting oneself as a friend (especially for two years) is almost guaranteed to do the opposite and suffocate any spark as people sort you into permanently nonsexual category and get used to you without even considering that option. I would be surprised if woman one had two years of platonic friendship with said yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/26 02:26 AM |
| 1 | Asking women out is a brutal processYou have a good point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/26 02:13 AM |
| 2 | Asking women out is a brutal processI confirm. I got blue eyes and blonde thing going on for me, my skin is usually clear and I don't look gross but I'm not supermodel. But whether I was skinny or fat (been both) I've always received attention whether I want it or not. Gaining weight cut it to maybe 1/4 which is the only side about being heavier that I actually like, but I still get approached plenty and my latest dating experience was same overwhelming chaos of men every other woman experiences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/26 02:07 AM |
| – | “Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger.I think you are discovering most women don't think this way. The everything or nothing mindset is male typical thinking - I know you are going to hate me pointing it out - so is intense insecurity that shows up in the very beginning of relationship (before much of a relationship exists) in ways you describe. Only men start making it so personal so quickly. Talking about normal average people you'll find way less women who get overly concerned about a man they just started dating or take it deepl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/26 01:07 AM |
| 9 | Ladies, when having sex with a guy for the first time, is there an ideal size that you're hoping for when you take off his pants?It sounds like that's exactly what she's doing tbh. Which makes sense if it's important | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/26 04:35 AM |
| 3 | Do women really sleep with the “hot guys” first and marry the average ones later?But he's making it sound like the guy you don't want to have fling sex with is unattractive to you or like you don't "really" want to have sex with him when he could be your 8/10 but you want 10/10 because risks of the casual sex are just too high to do it otherwise. Why'd one behave like reason why women aren't willing to drop their pants are as simple as attraction when everything literally suggests it's about costlier risk analysis, even basic sense. It shows either complete ignorance or will… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/26 11:11 PM |
| 4 | Are there men who want a traditional family, but also can have a healthy amount of emotional intelligence?You want a man who is willing to miss on lot of time with his kids so that you can spend more time with them, yet you also expect him to be nurturing. Because unless he's rich being a sole provider means working a lot. It means spending a lot of time in corporate environment that famously does not appreciate emotional intelligence or let you use it. At best it even punishes for coming across like you have too much people skills because you get branded million things feminine that get associated … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/26 09:44 PM |
| 3 | Why should "consent to sex isn't consent to Parenthood" only apply to women?Yeah but if he can paper abort a baby that she cannot physically abort without suffering horribly for rest of her life because it's against her values then what pain do we administer him to make it equal? Shouldn't we either equip him with device that shocks him with pain equal to hers for the rest of his life or, if she does give birth but he aborts his financial responsibility and she gives the baby up for adoption, make him go through pain equal to giving birth to actually make it even. I don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/26 12:11 AM |
| 1 | Why should "consent to sex isn't consent to Parenthood" only apply to women?In ideal world efforts would be seen to locate the father and if that's successful and he wants to raise the child as a single father then she should pay child support. I don't see why would you think any differently in any good faith. A child has right to a bio parent that wants to raise it and it has a right to child support from the other parent. It's really simple. Those measures don't exist to free either gender from child support, they exist to prevent murder of newborns. If the father phy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/26 12:03 AM |
| 1 | Why should "consent to sex isn't consent to Parenthood" only apply to women?Women are also financially responsible for children conceived under rape. Currently the rapist can even sue for custody and she can be made pay child support to the rapist. The only protection she has in reality is hoping that either her values let her abort - which isn't all the women - and that laws let her abort - which is even less women - and if she's unable to either because of her values or laws then she has to just hope he never finds out about baby or else he can both sue for custody an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/26 11:56 PM |
| 3 | Why should "consent to sex isn't consent to Parenthood" only apply to women?And if she doesn't want to go through abortion not because she wants a baby but because of her personal values then what do we administer to him to make him suffer as much as she is suffering? If financial consequences are not acceptable surely we need to put him through some sort of pain simulation that mimics either pregnancy and labour or mimics the pain of living with horrible guilt for the rest of his life. Some sort of electronic shock machine maybe that makes sure he will either go throug… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/26 11:38 PM |
| – | Apparently women are going on dates with men who ask them no questions backIt changes nothing and I already "admitted" (what the fuck because I was never saying anything opposite) to it. So unless you are waiting for some sort of plea on my knees that I'm wrong about something that I never claimed in the first place and that's entirely off topic then what the fuck do you want. I don't want to go to your preferred off topic because I'm discussing my own comment that it isn't remotely related to. If you cannot stop trying to manhandle me into different topic then you'll … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 08:33 PM |
| – | Apparently women are going on dates with men who ask them no questions backEven if that were true, which in my particular case it's not, it changes nothing about point. Which is women go on first dates with all kinds of men. All sorts. It also doesn't change they don't have crystal ball to tell which guy is boring. It doesn't change first date is not some trophy or some mythical one off over any other guy because she doesn't even know who you are, and that (for the same reason) there's no conspiracy against guys who can converse. Because: at that point She. Does. Not. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 08:04 PM |
| – | Apparently women are going on dates with men who ask them no questions backAny I could see myself being attracted to yes, and I did. Dates are for getting to know the person so there's really no reason not to. I believe it's the same for most women - you only get rejected if they think there's zero chance for sexual chemistry, or if they are not looking to date at all (the latter is a big one). It's really stupid (and frankly, completely clueless) to mystify first date as some sort of prize when first dates are plentiful and easy and mostly lead absolutely nowhere exac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 07:31 PM |
| – | Apparently women are going on dates with men who ask them no questions backWe end up on dates with all kinds of men. It's not rocket science. Dates happen when someone asks woman on date and she figures out who the guy is on the actual date. We don't have crystal ball to tell us who the guy is before we say yes or no to the date - the date is for figuring that part out. If it turns out he's boring and only talks about himself, next date won't happen. But we'll still complain because we spent our night getting bored to tears. There's nothing more to it, no secret operat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 06:47 PM |
| 2 | How would you live if you decided not to ever use contraception, birth control, sex toys or any synthetic/human-made sex-related technology? Just you, no other products at all.Celibacy. I believe it's most of the women's solution. Nobody would be having sex because women would just put off dating until they feel ready to start families. The correct time to start family has moved up because it takes people longer time to financially establish themselves thanks to capitalist pressures. Even in past in poorer places such as Ireland ordinary people didn't have sex life before they were 30 and got married (yes it happened late) because it took that long to be financially s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/26 03:06 AM |
| 6 | "Missing out on being a hoe" - is this real?This is it. People here trying to make understanding women whole science when in reality it's just "constantly having lady version of blue balls sucks and over the decades it tends to make person angry and frustrated". Who wouldn't regret having partner that you don't even orgasm with, it's so understandable those women ask what if. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/26 11:35 PM |
| 2 | "Missing out on being a hoe" - is this real?That's a load of bull crap. Women in cultures where they have less pressure to get married in general have absolutely no issues separating sex and feelings. If anything women who are truly financially independent are way better at staying unattached than men because financial aspects removed men benefit more from having a woman and are more focused on women than women are to men. You glorify the past and act like having happy long term relationship was more common, but ignore that in the 50s lar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/26 11:20 PM |
| 1 | No way most men are friends with a rapistYou should stop worrying about that because what becomes to real life generally people are very good at knowing when someone cares. I'm not believer if fairytales but we (as humans) have billions of years evolution behind us and intuition definitely is a thing. It won't make everyone trust you because it's not perfect but you will find your people. And it's not like people who don't trust you for 100% actively actually think you are rapist, they are just being cautious in general | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 10:42 AM |
| 0 | No way most men are friends with a rapistI think conversation kinda offrailed a lot from what the point of that statement is because the point definitely isn't that you shouldn't have close human relationships with people you call friends and trust. I don't think you have to believe your friends are rapists. I think point of the claim is simply that since so many men are dangerous you shouldn't let guard down completely so that other people won't pay for it. Ie should watch out for inappropriate "jokes" and other rhetoric that people u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 10:35 AM |
| 1 | To many women, male attention is low value.I don't really have data from my country because I'm lazy to find it but given that age differences between couples become super small in places where education is free and daycare substitized and grow rapidly in places where idea is "everybody pays for their kids" because it practically tends to translate to "women pay for all the kids by default or are forced to use their sexuality to rope some guy in for paying some", I would assume that lack of communal responsibility is a factor for why dat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/26 05:48 PM |
| -1 | Some people are not meant to find a partnerAnd to me it's scary how much folk that is against human rights congregates under that pill, so I guess that makes us even in the front of scaring each other | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 11:21 PM |
| 1 | Some people are not meant to find a partnerI agreed with your previous statements on principle but being blackpill incel doesn't really help build trust that you don't plan carving out that space at cost of our human rights. Another thing that adds to mistrust is that we don't currently have that many victim free ways to help you. So if, despite having nearly no victim free venues to help, the topic is discussed too much and gains too much validity of course we fear (pretty basedly) that someone will end up as a victim. If I don't suspec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 10:56 PM |
| 5 | Some people are not meant to find a partnerI think the modern selection is pretty polarised. There are a lot of good stable people who pick other good stable people to have 2-3 kids with and raise those kids successfully together, but outside that vast majority of reproduction is happening in a way that has little to do with ideals. Other than eugenics it's difficult to see what we can do though. Other than maybe try to be as positive towards parents and children as possible and vote in a way that makes raising families less expensive. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 10:39 PM |
| 1 | Some people are not meant to find a partnerI think you have point in a sense that modern society should care about those who lose reproduction game, but it's quite dangerous to go there as topic because that can not and should not involve using other human beings in any way that disrespects their autonomy. We don't currently have the means to hand you an opportunity to have your biological children without women so even if we mustered all the empathy for the issue what could we do? We may be rich on the level of all the other stuff like … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 10:05 PM |
| 4 | Some people are not meant to find a partnerYou could also return to men murdering each other en masse and women poisoning some of the remaining ones when they stop being able to take it, but I don't think full breakdown of social contract is in order simply because some people cannot get laid. Shouldn't even be part of discussion. If they can't follow contract that also protects them from violence because of sexual frustration, in our modern system they belong to prison, not to be appeased by unwilling people who weren't born indebted to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 09:50 PM |
| 1 | Do you think attraction is a choice?Has it happened to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 03:25 PM |
| 1 | Do you think attraction is a choice?If you swap porn consuming gluttonous behaviour to your first point and insecure behaviour that makes one prone to fall for bad intentioned characters while being blind to genuine affection to second, and keep third point largely the same, you have arrived to the majority of male population. So how fair is it really to expect anything else back. Nearly nobody in modern society is living in a way that guards their natural range and feelings of attraction from rot. Yet some people like to balk onl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 03:19 PM |
| 1 | Women who have traits that would be undersireable in men should not bear sonsIf we weren't dabbling with eugenics here, which is generally a bad sign and means you have gone step too far to the dangerous area in trying to be practical, I would sort of kind of see your point.. Why? Because we all know maladjusted males make up for large portion of disruption in society. And we all know men generally react poorly, violently and destructive to adversity. So if you are going to have a child that might be in some sort of disadvantage, in theory you should select for a girl so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/26 01:39 PM |
| – | A not insignificant number of takes and opinions on here (and a lot of other places) are formed by online opinions, imagined scenarios and ragebait, rendering them fundamentally useless to any productive discourse.I don't know any women who wax or shave their lady bits, and thanks to our sauna culture I can pretty reliably tell that. It evidently hasn't killed all attraction. I'm not denying that many guys absolutely have interest in shaved down downstairs but it's a bit of chicken or egg question about what came first with porn featuring it and it being something some guys want, because generally people like novel things that they don't see every day or that are hard to come by. From where I view it that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/26 12:51 PM |
| 5 | Why do you think that widening male gender roles wouldn't lead to wider female preferences?No but that is very connected to that other equality matters have also not reached their maximum level of actual equality yet. The change is slow on both fronts but it doesn't mean it's not happening. It's widely recognised even in this sub that Scandinavian women put way less economical pressures on what it means to be a man or man enough for them. But that's because they aren't tasked with bunch of childrearing related costs that by default fall on them while men's participation is optional de… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/26 05:54 PM |
| 8 | Why do you think that widening male gender roles wouldn't lead to wider female preferences?My experience as Finnish woman is the same as yours. Much more women either approve it or like it when men push past their gender norms than what most men are comfortable doing. I've literally seen how dressing in more colours than black, brown or blue and having feminine coded interests got regular looking guy who men thought was weird hippy and would have called gay if he wasn't surrounded by so many women, laid on the regular. And being egalitarian in how bills are split is the default. I hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/26 05:09 PM |
| 8 | Most male-female friendships are built upon a foundation of female deceptionI have male friends, though they are mainly through MMOs, and my relationship with each has been pretty equal give and take. No one has paid for outings alone if we happen to be on same side of world together, and it's been pretty easy to split the expenses without making it issue, it has followed exactly same script as with my women friends which is that everyone pays for themselves or if I'm crashing on someone's couch then I get breakfast because I have been taught common courtesy. Or if plac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/26 03:46 PM |
| 9 | What's With the Sudden Increase in "Women Being Lead?"That doesn't prevent young women who don't know any better from flocking to it and thinking it's soft. It's probably even easier to sell them that because many of us have seen our mothers and grandmothers suffer in their marriages before us, while those young women's grandmothers and mothers had careers that pay decent, laws that protect them and were able to get divorce. They are less likely to have seen extreme examples of what happens when you count everything on a man than we are because tim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 05:29 PM |
| 1 | What's With the Sudden Increase in "Women Being Lead?"They are selling their content, in a sense of gaining exposure and then money. Making tradwife content is a way to make lot of money working from home while keeping your clothes on. That they also sell toxic ideas of unrealistic lifestyle that they aren't themselves living is a byproduct of having comfy work from home job with relatively lot freedom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 05:23 PM |
| 2 | Women ghost because it's convenient, not because they're afraid of men getting violentYes. Men are dangerous to women and everyone agrees that, yet significant amount of earth's population is risking their lives and more for dick every day. Don't pretend men would perform any better put in same position. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 05:01 PM |
| 1 | Should couples who don't have kids and don't want to ever have them do 50/50 by default?Then, you are correct. Scandinavians do tend to split costs equitably which usually lands near enough 50-50 because usually there are no huge differences in earnings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 04:47 PM |
| 2 | What makes a man creepy? Is the term creepy overused, or is it warranted?I think you are right that most of the people who are around you in your daily life don't want to be bothered. I think you are just surrounded with busy young people most of whom are not enthusiastically gunning for relationship or if they are then it's not in environments where you meet them. I'd love to be able to tell you what the solution is but all my friends got their partners from bars or hobbies and I, as an introvert, got mine from dating site after 6 years of headache over it so it's n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 02:06 PM |
| 1 | What makes a man creepy? Is the term creepy overused, or is it warranted?And that's on autistic people to remember when they approach others. You cannot just say "oh I'm autistic" and sign out of social responsibility of minding how your actions affect others. That's called entitlement and it's bad. Lot of unfair things aren't rights that you are owed compensation for. If you aren't, as autistic person, sure how badly something will be received you just have to simply not do it. It makes you lose opportunities everywhere in life whether it's friendships or romantic o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 01:40 PM |
| 2 | What makes a man creepy? Is the term creepy overused, or is it warranted?If you can't approach someone in a way that won't make them intensely uncomfortable and you already know it, then you shouldn't approach them at all. Socialising requires two yesses and if you already know one of those is a no then you should stop immediately even if it's before interaction even started. Being autistic doesn't excuse being a jerk and I hate it when autistic people are dragged in to defend intentional asshole behaviour. It's not impossible for most autistic people to read the roo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 01:20 PM |
| 3 | What makes a man creepy? Is the term creepy overused, or is it warranted?Bullet point one would be that socialisation is a two yes -type situation. That's one way or another in the core of every other complaint that makes person creepy. Usually the person had some extremely probable reasons to at least strongly suspect that you don't want to be approached and did it anyway. Or they approached you in sincere faith that they were offering something you might want and were genuinely mistaken - but instead of owning up their mistake "sorry shouldn't have asked that, have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 01:09 PM |
| 0 | What makes a man creepy? Is the term creepy overused, or is it warranted?Agreed. Besides only players I know are willingly entertained by women that get with them because those ladies are also looking for something less permanent, so at least in those guys case even though they are sexually loose and not serious dating prospects for anybody, they aren't creepers because they are looking for willing audience and are extremely good at entertaining it. I know manipulative and coercive people exist but a guy who wants you for life can sometimes be the creeper while as on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 12:43 PM |
| 1 | Should couples who don't have kids and don't want to ever have them do 50/50 by default?I agree with your addition. Marriage is reasonable precaution before you start splitting anything equitably. That being said, if you are not doing equitable split because you are not married, you should go with lower earning partners lifestyle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 09:54 AM |
| 2 | Should couples who don't have kids and don't want to ever have them do 50/50 by default?I'm Scandinavian and nobody is going 50-50, they are splitting bills in proportion to income. If you earn 60% you pay 60%, if you earn 30% you pay 30%. This is usually done through shared expense accounts or, like my parents case, higher earning partner just grabbing roughly 60% worth of bigger bills and paying them and lower earning partner paying whatever smaller bills arrive after that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 09:48 AM |
| 1 | Should couples who don't have kids and don't want to ever have them do 50/50 by default?I think all couples, regardless of if they have children, should split shared expenses in the proportion of their income. If you earn 50-50 you go 50-50, if you earn 60-40 you go 60-40. I think this is a good system because for shared expenses like housing usually also the decision making process is shared and if they were alone the lower income partner would probably choose something less costly than where shared decision lands. Always going proportional to income is fair and - most importantly… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 09:27 AM |
| 2 | Do you genuinely expect your partner to lay down their life for you if push came to shove?Same. Well, for me it also kinda depends on the childs age and circumstances around who is doing the majority of putting them to bed, waking them up, helping them to brush their teeth etc & who's the parent the child tends to go to first. Because while I can be reasonably certain that I'll be the more likely parent to breastfeed and because of that more likely parent to be the childs primary bond between 1-4 when the effect of that still lingers, I'm autistic which makes me get tired somewhat ea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 08:57 PM |
| 11 | Feminism indirectly stole masculinity from men and disturbed dating in its own wayOne thing you should not forget either is that during that time other women weren't holding the freedom fighters hands in solidarity, they were actually writing angry articles to newspapers and pushing back. It wasn't rosy time of women coming together for common goals but ugly time of isolation and being spit on by both men and women for wanting to do things different. So when other men think that freeing gender norms aren't for them and they are just naturally limited and they see you as a thr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 01:59 PM |
| 1 | Men are more violent than women, not more abusive.You mean the broken homes where women are overwhelmingly the parent who stayed instead of the parent who buggered off and caused the abandonment trauma of his children? Why exactly would one argue in any good faith that it's on women to solve that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/25 11:38 PM |
| 1 | Men are more violent than women, not more abusive.Only upvoting because while I don't agree with the pile of hogwash you wrote, the reasons you wrote it make sense and you have explained them well in this comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/25 11:35 PM |
| 6 | Why do men think there are so many good menHaving a job is one of bare minimum quantities and it doesn't make person a good partner. You should respond with what exactly do you think all the men you know and assume are good would be doing in relationships that makes you conclude they would be good people to date and partner with. If you have read the complaints women have about countless of unhappy relationships they are in, this should be easy task because I assume you think those men would do something differently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/25 11:18 PM |
| – | Gifts, favors, rides, clever comebacks, jokes, being funny, being a good person, game will NOT generate attractionProbably with lot of older ones too because "why are all the good men gay" is age old complaint echoed through time and it definitely refers to attraction and unwanted longing and not just being some variety of Mr nice guy. I think men just don't want to acknowledge it for understandable reasons because it puts them between rock and a hard place regarding their attractiveness to other men (not as romantic partners but as friends, business partners and social currency which then has significant e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/25 11:08 PM |
| – | Gifts, favors, rides, clever comebacks, jokes, being funny, being a good person, game will NOT generate attractionOppressing people "for the sake of civilisation" is not alright. If what you call civilisation requires rape then it should die out because there's nothing worth preserving. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/25 11:03 PM |
| – | Gifts, favors, rides, clever comebacks, jokes, being funny, being a good person, game will NOT generate attractionI'm getting so worried about how many answers I write in this subreddit end up aligning perfectly with redpill identifying people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/25 11:00 PM |
| – | Gifts, favors, rides, clever comebacks, jokes, being funny, being a good person, game will NOT generate attractionI agree with you completely. Amping up ones game whatever it means in any individual case can't generate attraction from below zero scores but it can definitely work like advertise for any attraction that already exists but isn't being acknowledged or considered. World is full of that kind of unacknowledged attraction because we as humans are complex and have many layers of consideration, lot of it subconscious, that have an effect on what we experience as raw physical attraction (it's why when … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/25 10:52 PM |
| 6 | Many women see men as just a means to an end.He can't because that would mean he would need to imagine himself in the literal shoes of woman (the horror) and look at her like person who has actual wants and needs instead of being stuck only thinking about his own wants. Many men are literally incapable of empathizing with women hence why this kind of idiot statements surface. Ten seconds of thinking about the supposed "gain" from her view point vs the cost (like she's an actual human and not a con-npc placed spesifically to ruin him by ask… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/25 07:10 PM |
| 1 | Women have a heard mentality and because of this they don’t do things in their own interest and are very performative.The phenomenon you describe happens because fundamental truth about interacting with men as a woman in bar or party settings is that every look and word you give some guy is a risk that could inspire really unpleasant behaviour. Some guys take literally any perceived encouragement and imagine themselves whole list of rights to you, and whole list of conditions that you need to fill in order for them to not assault you in some way, whether it's a small or big assault. They can fly off handle for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/25 09:54 PM |
| 3 | Women have a heard mentality and because of this they don’t do things in their own interest and are very performative.It's time we start poisoning men again, since we are so adamant about ignoring other people's human worth and using brute strength to force points. Our rights are not yours to give or take away, this should be a simple feat to understand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/25 08:54 PM |
| 11 | QFW: Assuming you’re talking to a man who is level headed, genuine, and wants to engage in an honest discussion, how do you respond if he believes that “women have it easier in society nowadays” and in turn, “men face way more discrimination”?I agree with you but I also think that's why it's a project for his family members and any men he is friends with and not for unrelated women because the amount of tiring grating laborious hours, the hurtful trash (even without intentional insults) that makes it so mentally draining that you can get burnout from it etc are really big ask to ask from stranger for free. Like 10000000 too big. And on top of that in most cases there's a reason why he is able to so blatantly ignore what happens right… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/25 03:31 PM |
| 6 | Why do so many women exaggerate about their standards?Women say it to men who are whining about being alone, not to any man who is single for any reason but not being pitiful about it. That's quite important context. They are not telling that man to lower his standards because they think other women are entitled to him or that he should date them for the sake of those women, they are telling him that because he's complaining and claims his life is ruined without a woman. This and saying other people should lower their standards just so men who don'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/25 10:09 PM |
| 1 | Age gaps can have a power imbalance that favours the younger personIs Playboy magazine what you read to learn about reality? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/25 05:51 PM |
| -1 | Age gaps can have a power imbalance that favours the younger personThem "knowing what they are doing" doesn't remove the power imbalance in any way though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/25 05:29 PM |
| 1 | Age gaps can have a power imbalance that favours the younger personThere's no evidence on the existence of wall. Parroting manosphere myths from grifters doesn't make you unique or even realistic really, it just makes you whiny | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/25 05:27 PM |
| 0 | Age gaps can have a power imbalance that favours the younger personYoung man in relationship with old woman doesn't have more power in anyone's opinion unless you are deliberately obtuse and it's a case where intersectionality affects the outcome but you are denying it so you can go reeeeeeee in the internet. Moreover most women are extremely judgmental about 18-25 guys being hit on by 50+ women, you just don't see it as often because less women are disgusting enough to do that. But when it does happen you see real quick nobody thinks the near child in question… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/25 05:20 PM |
| 4 | Age gaps can have a power imbalance that favours the younger personThis is what I was struggling to explain because I was struggling to understand how anyone even came up Ops conclusion and losing brain cells trying to imagine what Op imagined. Power to leave or attract someone else are external forces that has zero to do with power within relationship, because both parties can do either of those and it's holding them above other partner that turns them into manipulation, not existence of them. To utilise ones presumed "power" to leave one would need to keep th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/25 05:11 PM |
| 4 | If stealthing is legally considered rape, so should lying about birth control be treated as reproductive coercion and be equally punishedUpvoted not because I'm completely convinced that LPS should be a thing but because the argumentation is VERY convincing when put like that. In many ways when stakes get high like this people need protection that's actually accessible to them, especially when they might already be a victim of some combination of manipulation and coercion. Making them prove they were abused often ends up with having no protection at all for people who were. And since we now know men are not invulnerable, your arg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/25 05:41 AM |
| – | If stealthing is legally considered rape, so should lying about birth control be treated as reproductive coercion and be equally punishedI agree. Consent to sex isn't consent to reproduction and the second thing happening with only one party's approval is a very bad thing that's weaponizing something deeply personal and intimate that wasn't consensually shared against the person. It's extremely disturbing. I think it should be punished, and it's not a civil matter because it's far too serious. There are certain things about people and physical reality of existing as human that should be completely off limits, untouchable and alwa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/25 04:53 AM |
| – | “Male loneliness crisis” gets the attention it does because society fears lonely discontented men more than it fears lonely discontented womenYes but that's not the reality we live in and in this reality the remaining grandpa's do have the advantage. All the could have beens and would have beens don't change that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/25 10:03 AM |
| – | “Male loneliness crisis” gets the attention it does because society fears lonely discontented men more than it fears lonely discontented womenIt's just my guess but going back to early 1900 century and earlier I think it's because they had way too many other problems to focus on chewing out women, and they had been facing concept of adversity since childhood so they were familiar with it and not afraid of it. That and people just died easily and who is going to end up in accidents easier than someone who doesn't listen to anybody else and who doesn't have skills to make other people care for them. I don't think those generations of me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/25 10:53 PM |
| – | “Male loneliness crisis” gets the attention it does because society fears lonely discontented men more than it fears lonely discontented womenJust because they refuse the advice doesn't make it piss poor. It just makes them stupid and unable to learn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/25 10:40 PM |
| – | “Male loneliness crisis” gets the attention it does because society fears lonely discontented men more than it fears lonely discontented womenBy being violent and destructive and hating sharing and building their communities so little that any time resources are spent to them they help no one else and community either gets either worse or stays the same? There's a reason charities had to start focusing on women and that's because when men were focused on everybody else just stayed in misery because they don't share or solve any shit beyond their own nose. The rare individuals capable of breaking that rule are mostly busy trying to rem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/25 10:24 PM |
| – | “Male loneliness crisis” gets the attention it does because society fears lonely discontented men more than it fears lonely discontented womenMisogynist men are angry because women won't fuck them. Misandrist women are angry because men will abuse them. There's a difference. One of those groups wishes to rape and abuse other, while one of them just wants the other group to not be active danger to them. Why would you not hope that life of someone who isn't looking to hurt you in any way improves, and why'd you ever compare that to people not wanting to have empathy for their would be abusers? This is why you guys can't be trusted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/25 10:13 PM |
| – | “Male loneliness crisis” gets the attention it does because society fears lonely discontented men more than it fears lonely discontented womenCare homes for elderly are actually the place where grandpa is likely to get more action than in half of his life combined because gender ratio gets screwed in his favour. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/25 10:07 PM |
| 1 | If a man with options will cheat because he can, a man with no options is only with you because he's desperateIndeed lol, even my mom is still laughing about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/25 07:00 PM |
| 3 | If a man with options will cheat because he can, a man with no options is only with you because he's desperateI'm absolutely a member of Men Bad! -club yet for once I agree with you. There's nothing preventing a man from keeping it in his pants if he wants to, and it definitely comes down to who he is as a person if he will. I'm a daughter of very very good looking man who I have plenty of reason to dislike and you better believe nobody in my family is naive or looks him through rose tinted glasses. Yet I know he never cheated and no one has any reason to question that. In his youth he couldn't walk thr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/25 02:28 PM |
| – | What do women think when men say "women don't take accountability"?I agree Nia. I honestly think if everyone's DNA was on file it would be great equaliser in many ways, and that people have too much fear mentality what becomes to having it shared anywhere even in theory. I think part of this is America specific and is because morale of police is so miserable if not nonexistent and there are too little safeguards in place for who gets to be a cop and training is practically nonexistent compared to countries where that system actually works. But, even if everyone… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 07:45 AM |
| – | On “Financial Abortions” and Unequal Rights to “Walk Away” from Parental ObligationsIt's not, no. I think general vibe of this sub is much more likely to get to allistic people and drive them away from even entertaining the types of conversations that happen here because "what bullshit is this" (rightfully) .. but when you are suitably ND anything is just food for thought and it matters less if you are talking with an idiot than that that you are talking and may still get interesting new ideas and connect dots no thanks to your conversation partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 05:38 AM |
| 2 | Men are not less shallow just because they claim “I’ll take any woman”.I kinda agree with the opening by Op and I agree with you. My life experiences connect with both sorts of thinkers. I played MMOs for fifteen years and I met For one: Huge number of men who will hit bars on the odd weekends (usually once a month) and they would spend hundreds of euros per "gig" to pay for lots of womens drinks, taxi, you name it. Because every other weekend or so they managed to get someone to go home with them and sometimes date for a little while. I was in those games to play … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 05:03 AM |
| 2 | On “Financial Abortions” and Unequal Rights to “Walk Away” from Parental ObligationsIf I were to guess I'd think you are at least a little neuro spicy, whether it's enough to actually have label or not. Because your communication makes sense to me and clicks without effort and I don't get the "deciphering foreign language" vibes that I'm usually getting trying to define what NTs think is relevant to discussion. Then again knew you for like three days in internet so no way to know but I'm usually good at locating and hoarding non NT people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 04:39 AM |
| 1 | On “Financial Abortions” and Unequal Rights to “Walk Away” from Parental ObligationsIf we funded a health service that deals with an issue that 99,9% deals with something mostly men catch but in 0,1% cases it's a woman they would also be allowed to use it, that wouldn't be gender specific service only for men. Rather, it would only be service provided for everybody that you are lucky enough to usually not need. But your luckiness isn't negating that if and when you need it it's there for you too. You can be left with an infant, and men have been. It's not biologically impossibl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 04:28 AM |
| 3 | On “Financial Abortions” and Unequal Rights to “Walk Away” from Parental ObligationsThat's correct. I also believe that until we can actually create public system that actually picks up the duties a parent deserted, we don't even have second option for real. The system is already failing to pick after parents that fully intended to be there but succumbed to their inability, so how could any freedoms be extended on people who are capable but just don't want to. If manosphere dudes really cared about their own rights to sign out of (singled out) personal responsibility for childr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 04:12 AM |
| 1 | On “Financial Abortions” and Unequal Rights to “Walk Away” from Parental ObligationsAre you autistic because I absolutely vibe with how you chose to answer and agree all your points, but arriving at them probably requires quite a rabbit hole of thought because although those are separate issues, the current clash in our current reality is making them seem like same issue. At least until you think about all the examples where child's right to care is clashing with parents right to pick and choose exactly when to parent, that exist outside abortion debate and after the child alre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 04:01 AM |
| 4 | Women are denied the gift of failureRight. I actually made it to my late 20s without having clue how to hit on people. In fact that even affected my relationships a little bit because instead of putting on a good game I just started vaguely dragging the guy in the direction of bedroom and even though I didn't realise it then (because dragging sort of worked) lot of fun was lost for no reason for not knowing how to flirt. I actually wondered couple of times why my relationships aren't very romantic without seeing the connection bet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 12:59 PM |
| 1 | Women are denied the gift of failureOr the male bird that built the best nest, some species do that too to lure a partner, and the nest needs to be intricate or the girls won't like it. Some check if male can provide by literally requiring gifts. Birds are pretty awesome Completely off topic but fun still even though I can't remember what bird it was other than some type of sea bird, there are birds where males will try to build nests to attract a mate and meanwhile females who already have chosen a nest with a suitable bachelor i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 12:49 PM |
| – | Explaining why an issue exists is not an excuse for the issue to keep existing.Thing is any guy can claim connection with you and then feel entitled to your time and resources because they just one sidedly decided there's a "connection". Are we also going to have to emphasise with every guy on the bus stop we accidentally looked in the eyes, or do you need to talk with him before he has right to claim connection rights? Dance? Fuck? Where is the limit after which you owe him your time and resources. What about whether she agrees there is a connection, don't connections nee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 07:49 AM |
| 6 | Explaining why an issue exists is not an excuse for the issue to keep existing.It's not only from women. Everyone gets their heart broken and that doesn't mean it's excuse for treating anyone else shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 07:47 AM |
| -1 | Explaining why an issue exists is not an excuse for the issue to keep existing.What's the accommodation though? Free pussy for everyone regardless of what owner of body wants? Whining and blaming women because you lack social skills isn't something being autistic justifies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 07:45 AM |
| 0 | Explaining why an issue exists is not an excuse for the issue to keep existing.That's neither revenge nor patriarchy. Just because you think women's contributions are worthless doesn't mean shared marital assets are only yours alone. They are taking a half, not "everything" you dumb ass, do some maths and stop letting your emotions dominate you to this extent, it's embarrassing. The only way you could be temporarily withheld more than your half is if kids you created are currently living in the house, which also makes you extra cheap for whining. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 07:39 AM |
| 1 | Why do women say men are single because they are bad/misogynistic. But tons of bad and misogynistic men have tons of women?I'm kinda proving the point looking it through my life experience but I assume some of those men are like my ex from my very younger years who was unable to see those men because world filters installed by his dad who was was wildly misogynist man with a relatively good woman prevented him from seeing anything that conflicts with his early experiences. The dad had some money, not a lot of it but enough that combinations of that and living rural where life is cheap allowed him the rare chance to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 10:54 AM |
| 0 | Why do women say men are single because they are bad/misogynistic. But tons of bad and misogynistic men have tons of women?I think we all see that and it's not a mystery to us how toxic dumbasses (even if it's just youth) end up with more toxic dumbass attitudes. But curing that in a way that won't negatively affect other people even more is next to impossible because not only are those men usually already equipped with tons of attitudes that don't make them safe around women at all, they certainly won't listen to us and it's better for most women to not even try to warn them way we warn young women about toxic trap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 10:24 AM |
| 0 | Why do women say men are single because they are bad/misogynistic. But tons of bad and misogynistic men have tons of women?I think that's because of mix of misogyny in whole culture (not just toxic men or whatever simpleton dumbass young men think bad influence means) which encourages one to think women as interchangeable and that love makes them all behave certain way so you can pick based on looks and still have dream romance as long as she just loves you enough + plus young people in general thinking they are invulnerable so even some that realise she might come with issues just think it's fun bit of extra challe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 10:15 AM |
| -1 | Why do women say men are single because they are bad/misogynistic. But tons of bad and misogynistic men have tons of women?Vance is also rather rich again so you'd have to look at the marriages of republicans on the ground level to see what's drawing their wives to them and if those wives are attracted to them. I think there's actually some there to support the "being bad person in general doesn't help you in dating scene" because of those surveys that have found young republican men (who are likely to be poor and not very influential) struggle with dating massively. I'm sure that some of the republican men who aren… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 09:25 AM |
| 1 | Why don’t women like passport bros?I think it's a mix of infinitely worse and a lot better honestly, but that it leans on the side of lot worse. Reason I think that is that my gaming hobby has given me big communities of friends and acquaintances all over the world and it sounds to me that in certain countries men think about and treat women a lot more positive on the surface but when you dig deeper into why that is it's the same reason everyone likes a free ATM except that instead of money the resources they are expecting to hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/25 12:23 AM |
| 1 | Why don’t women like passport bros?I'm glad you are trying to help us understand how the thought process might go because I spent lot of my life wondering same thing these ladies do. Then I realised lot of guys actually come to their pants if you whisper them couple of compliments in suitably sultry tone because thinking about complimenting even men you find hot isn't something that's often thought about. So at least for a chunk of them what you say might check out because how do they all have such a praise kink otherwise. I don'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/25 12:10 AM |
| 4 | Men are lonely because women are changed.I can hear you and I'm sure there's sizable part of male population that's just like you. I don't think you are all lying or even that majority is. But I still think OP has a point because even though lot of the guys she talks about certainly genuinely believe they are being romantic and that they just want someone to love them, what it means upon closer inspection if you managed to make them make itemised list does include a lot of starry eyed idealisation from the past that's more of a surviva… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/25 10:43 PM |
| -1 | Men are lonely because women are changed.Are you saying women should be grateful to men because you didn't rape and oppress us even further? Because nothing stopped women of past chopping off all of your dicks in your sleep and poisoning your food either, yet it only happened in marginal cases. If we are playing gratefulness game, you have lot more to be thankful for. The only reason men could have anything at all is because most women actively didn't choose violence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/25 10:04 PM |
| 5 | Why does it seem that women's feelings override any normal relationship boundaries?I didn't say half was nuts. Why are you twisting my words? If you are here to use people as punching bags because you are angry, you need to go to therapy because that's not debate, it's abuse. Hope you are not channeling same energy in your dating life because I think I just realised why all the women around you are crazy and no longer wonder where the discrepancy to general population comes from. Thank you for satisfying my curiosity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/25 12:23 PM |
| 6 | Why does it seem that women's feelings override any normal relationship boundaries?No. Majority of women aren't nut. Half I could guarantee are not this way, another half not sure about but I really doubt. Is it at all possible - and I do not mean to blame you but make some sense out of obvious discrepancy - that since you are so used to women trampling your boundaries home, you are subconsciously drawn to the same type of women? It might not affect your preference in men if men you grew up with weren't same way. I've met some clingers in guys, the type that actually calls me … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/25 11:27 AM |
| 1 | Men need to go their own way until women fix themselves.You can work on that anger in therapy. I'm not your therapist | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/25 07:29 AM |
| 1 | Men need to go their own way until women fix themselves.Neither of those makes anybody automaton or parasitic. Those instincts exist for a good reason. You are just angry and it is showing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/25 07:25 AM |
| 1 | Men need to go their own way until women fix themselves.As a woman yes it's in the fundamental nature. If you just don't like women you absolutely should start from yourself and go your own way because one thing women do deserve is being rid of people who just want to hate on them for being women and not automatons put on this earth to entertain your existence in terms you like it. Women have billions of years of evolution to try to make sure that any offspring that's born gets something concrete for their other half of parentage. One could even try … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/25 06:06 AM |
| 2 | It doesn't make sense to ask women to lower their standardsI think it's because of bad self esteem and socialisation that tells them they are supposed to be the main prize, rather than supposed to be happy. And what a better way to prove that you absolutely are the prize (in dysfunctional mind driven by fear) than "stealing" someone else's man. I think their goal is the stealing part much more than it's the having the guy so they "have to" believe he's going to leave because just going for someone else that's his equivalent in every way that matters and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/25 05:10 AM |
| 3 | It doesn't make sense to ask women to lower their standardsRip my coffee because for a moment I thought you meant this sub | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/25 05:00 AM |
| 1 | Claiming "Sex isn't the only thing men care about" only works when men show they have other priorities.Men don't only care about sex. If they did life would be a lot easier on this planet. Majority of women who suffer the worst exploitation on this planet are in relationships, and not insignificant number of them are in unhappy ones that haven't seen sex for years. Yet their relationships haven't stopped to exploit them in a ton of ways, or guys disappeared and left them heal from the mistake of being with a man in the first place. Unfortunately men get into and stay in relationships for ton of t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/25 10:21 PM |
| 0 | As Gender Equality Grows, So Does Women's Prison PopulationYes I agree that in some cases responsibility comes with being viewed as a human being with her own agency and not object whose wants and desires can't effect the outcome or create decisions that matter. But that's a good thing for feminism and for equality. Nobody benefits anything from relating to the rotten apples of their gender over victims. And we benefit even less of all the objectification that led to less criminal responsibility in the past. Those things hurt people who aren't criminals… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/25 09:52 PM |
| 1 | Apparently women turn “demisexual” around average menBut you can't attribute that completely on attraction because for majority of human history women needed to pair up with whomever was available for them. In my opinion that I don't expect to be popular but that I hold regardless part of the reason less men are represented in ancestral gene pool is at least partially because they tend to take more risks with reproductive behaviour in hopes of big gains. Chasing after mistresses when you have children has potential to land you with more children i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/25 05:24 AM |
| 1 | What would it take to heal the divide that has seemingly arisen between the sexes so that we can all move forward together, against injustice?Two things need to happen. One, children need to be centred in society and more social resources dedicated to families because it's good stable families that raise people who are able to stand up against assholes everywhere else in life. Women aren't choosing the bear because every singular man is a bad person viewed as an individual. If you take almost any typical individual man they are probably not demon spawn from hell. But there's something badly wrong in the kind of culture both men and wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/25 05:02 AM |
| – | Cuck men are embarrassing…That's actually smart suggestion because I feel you might be right on the money. She shouldn't push him to work beyond retirement years but it's true that having your partner just kind of mope around like sad puppy drives you crazy sooner or later. Hobbies could solve the issue without having to either bend over backwards to do exactly what wife wants or endanger ones peace. Redpills like you remind me how being redpill can either mean being extremely grounded in reality and not prone to focus o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/25 10:11 PM |
| – | Cuck men are embarrassing…I agree. I have little respect for either half of couple that behaves like that. Men should learn to pick up after themselves so that they aren't dependent on whichever woman will take them, and pushing another person to their limit with no concern for what is best for them makes one a monster. And since this is an argumentative sub, if he does pick up after himself and is simply stuck because abusers abuse and not because he feels entitled to a woman to do things for him (the whine about sex no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/25 10:01 PM |
| 0 | The lesbian divorce rate debunks a lot of the complaints wives have about their husbandsYou can't prove it in majority of cases so that's just disingenuous and means no divorce and leaving whole families to suffer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/25 10:00 AM |
| 0 | The lesbian divorce rate debunks a lot of the complaints wives have about their husbandsI did read but you also say if divorce is even possibility don't get married. Don't see that fitting in with "of course we are ditching the cheaters". I personally think there should also be room carved for all sorts of abuse because living with constant financial, verbal, physical or emotional abuse can endanger whole family, destabilize things badly for everyone and lead to weakened wellbeing and much more severe consequences. I know someone whose sibling is dead because one parent was more in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/25 06:53 AM |
| 1 | The lesbian divorce rate debunks a lot of the complaints wives have about their husbandsLot of words to say you cheated and are angry because women no longer have to put up with you breaking all your vows and somehow still keep theirs in one sided deal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/25 06:24 AM |
| – | "DoorDash Girl" is proof that women's spaces will not hold women accountable.Are you cross examining the person who comes report the mugging though? Do you hold them at the station to figure out if it's possibility B they are lying or do you go after the mugger? You know that's not what happens. You might ask them some questions but the undertone of that conversation isn't aggressive and the purpose of that conversation isn't trying to determine if they are lying. They aren't being accused because even though you are going to investigate, on some level you are assuming t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/25 04:32 AM |
| 1 | "DoorDash Girl" is proof that women's spaces will not hold women accountable.When you have accusation against someone you have two options that have their drawbacks. One is treating it with suspicion. The drawback in that one is huge because being treated with suspicion targets victims who are coming forth with real accusations that are already hard to talk about. The other is starting from place of believing that when someone says they were targeted by crime they were actually targeted by it. If someone comes to report they were mugged you wouldn't begin the investigati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/25 03:20 PM |
| -2 | "DoorDash Girl" is proof that women's spaces will not hold women accountable.I wouldn't say purely accidental flashing makes you a criminal but it certainly makes sense why it created misunderstanding with how much SA and harrassment women are targeted with. Then it's just unfortunate that she uploaded stuff to internet before whole thing could be cleared out. But neither she nor two X could, if one actually approaches it in good faith, have known that. I think men who demand 2X talks about this episode after it's become apparent it has nothing to do with systemic inequa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/25 12:40 AM |
| 2 | Women are awful in relationships; Men need to be given more advice for itWell duh, of course following someone who was hitting on you and asked for one on one time is, if not cheating, at least bullshit behaviour that isn't fair to ones partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/25 03:40 AM |
| 1 | Women are awful in relationships; Men need to be given more advice for itI'm not trying to tell you to give up your boundaries, I'm just saying that there's a fine line there where it becomes controlling if the purpose of your boundaries becomes making other people submit rather than protecting yourself. I believe that's where accusations are coming from. Also you should recognise that even though you have right to your boundaries the definition of cheating differs by the couple. Both me and my partner of ten years have hobbies that involve spending time with people … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/25 12:53 AM |
| 1 | Women are awful in relationships; Men need to be given more advice for itBoundary is something you set for yourself and maintain by leaving. It's not something you can use to make other people submit to anything, nor should they. If you use it that way then you are indeed sexist and controlling because the idea of boundary isn't that you make other people do something they simply don't want to do. You can refuse to be part of something someone else is doing, that is your right. But if in the afterwards you go around telling that they should have "submitted to your bo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/25 11:36 PM |
| 1 | Women are awful in relationships; Men need to be given more advice for itI think you are taking half of the equation that's true and then projecting your own fears or internal coping mechanisms on other half. Because it's true having a man is something that's expendable to average woman, which is the half you are correct about - but it's not true that translates to no need for self improvement. It doesn't even translate to missing 90% or 80% or any significant motivation to improve self. I understand that knowing that having a man is expendable to her is scary when h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/25 08:34 PM |
| 2 | Women are awful in relationships; Men need to be given more advice for itIt's not just because of that though. Lots of male typical coping mechanisms create issues to other people and - in modern society where consequences are starting to enter equation because women no longer smooth them over - the man himself. The psychiatric definition for whether something is healthy or not tends to base on whether it's causing harm in your life, and it just so happens most healthy coping mechanisms have expressing emotion as at least part of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/25 08:17 PM |
| 2 | Women are awful in relationships; Men need to be given more advice for itMore like women don't give crap about their market value. -> You are supposed to be into her and be what she wants or you can go. <- You can name her a 5 or 10 in your head but fundamentally that doesn't change because it's not how women work. The points game is in your head and it's wholly meaningless to her because woman needs a man like fish needs a bicycle, so trying to "win" by rigging it is surefire way to self destruction because then you are following imaginary choreography in your head … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/25 07:56 PM |
| 8 | Threatening that you aren't going to marry isn't as scary as you think to womenMaybe it's both because the man they want doesn't exist. Most men make okay company as friends or associates but pretty crappy romantic partners so it might not be that those women are vehemently against the idea of marriage as theoretical concept, might be they are fine with it but just don't want what men actually offer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/25 11:28 PM |
| – | Sex is a need, and men are losing today because they are not needed, which is a result of the Industrial Revolution.No, working on yourself is what you do in life to reach goals. Sometimes that's just a goal of being invited to hang out with your friends more often because you are spending less of their energy (no shade to anybody), sometimes it's a goal of being invited to share a bed or even a life. There is no magic core of yourself that shines light on it's own and makes you irresistible to everyone who is currently considering who to invite to an outing next weekend, or grab a coffee with. All of the thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/25 02:29 PM |
| 1 | Men should take up their issues with the women that caused themYou are giving them helluva lot benefit of doubt assuming their original goal wasn't just hating women. Because you know what vast majority of "crazy" women have in common? A man that hates women and is making her crazy. Hate me for saying it how it is all you want. But I'm not going to believe some man's account how they got targeted by a crazy woman unless I really know significant number of details because we all should know by now what the emotionally volatile crazy gender actually is. Do yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/25 03:46 AM |
| 1 | Women’s vetting does filter out the majority of menI think you have half a point in that women's perception of fuck boys is probably more fuck boys than what's actually real. But I don't think they are still that rare because lot of the men who don't in fact have real means to be one are still trying to be the fuck boy. It doesn't end up working out and actually he just gets repeatedly left and ends up looking and feeling miserable so no net gain for him and nothing he can boast with but if a woman goes through 5-6 of wanna-be-fuckboys before fi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/25 04:46 AM |
| 1 | Women’s vetting does filter out the majority of menFull agree. My filters used to be quite different because I don't give rats ass about having style and I can deal with awkward just fine as long as they still open their mouth and talk so it's not like I'm sitting there alone. For some reason I don't really mind whether or not there's lots of laughter either, it's not my measure for having good time. But even with some of filters you are applying dropped out, my list of filters would be so long that nobody would even get to halfway of it. I also… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/25 04:30 AM |
| 2 | Women over exaggerate their concerns of their safety.Bingo. There was stats that I'm too lazy to dig out that basically show that the reason men are over represented in homicide statistics is basically the same reason they are over represented in all other early death statistics. Vast majority of those is gangs killing other gangs or people who tend to start fights starting one with someone who goes too far. In the meantime vast majority of women who are murdered or SAd are just trying to exist and often taking every precaution already, which make… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/25 03:48 AM |
| 17 | Women over exaggerate their concerns of their safety.Yes but SA is still plentiful even among strangers. Make no mistake getting SAd by someone who you actually know is much more likely, especially getting SAd by partner or a family member, but some statistics also include creeps that harrass you at job or bar as "knowing" which may affect some statistics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/25 03:38 AM |
| 1 | Men need to be more composed, to attract women.I accidentally read the title as "composted" and thought to myself "that's probably true, everybody likes some nice soil for their flowers". Maybe that's enough Reddit for today | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/25 10:55 PM |
| 2 | Looking through the wrong lense: Which issues do men and women get wrong because they assume the other sex thinks like them?And you are super sympathetic and sweet and smart and awesome | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/25 10:22 PM |
| 3 | Looking through the wrong lense: Which issues do men and women get wrong because they assume the other sex thinks like them?I agree. I kinda agree with rest of his point but leaving women out of equation and not understanding we too have optional evolutionary strategies to monogamy comes across pretty ignorant. Wtknight should consider what would happen if a woman invested everything in one man, was loyal for years, had ten of his kids with nothing on the side and then it turned out he has genetic defect that kills (or sterilises) all of his offspring at about 13-20 with little warning. Even if there were already a g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/25 10:12 PM |
| 1 | Looking through the wrong lense: Which issues do men and women get wrong because they assume the other sex thinks like them?True. Lot of grifters out there that many older and happier guys already know are just trying to keep everyone unhappy, and lot of confusion over advice that's extreme or only applies spesific situation. The befriending one is strange one but I also think it has something to do with how women aren't either entirely on or entirely off attraction wise aka the big key misunderstanding. I think those guys introduce themselves as friend and when she does what good friends do and doesn't lust after th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/25 09:39 PM |
| 4 | Looking through the wrong lense: Which issues do men and women get wrong because they assume the other sex thinks like them?I think the misunderstanding contributes to lot because men hear what women are saying in many other connections, miss that crucial component for how it makes billion dollar difference and then "try to make sense to" whatever women are saying literally any other way than believing it because "that doesn't make sense" without the key component of understanding women are capable of going from attraction level of "invisible" to "billion" without some evil plot or overcomplication. So many men there… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/25 09:30 PM |
| 6 | Looking through the wrong lense: Which issues do men and women get wrong because they assume the other sex thinks like them?Attraction if we are generalising really hard, because obviously that's not gonna apply to every single woman. I think men underestimate how much and how genuinely into them a woman who initially wasn't can get. I'm not saying stalk someone who said no, or pressure women who are not into someone give them a chance or some crap. I believe there can be off-putting qualities that make a woman know immediately it's a definite no. But what becomes to attraction after "definite no's" and outside stalk… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/25 09:19 PM |
| 3 | Women are more replaceable than men in datingI have often thought about it and it's true. Not everyone finds a partner easily but the cost of trying to find new one is just some dates or conversation with mostly normal people if one is dating women. And yes it means that even if a woman is a good partner it's not shining "won the lottery" experience it is the other way around | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/25 10:48 AM |
| 0 | CMV: The reaction to the Tea App leak shows that western women don't like being held accountableWhat the fuck. Women are trying to not get killed or abused and you think doxing them is accountability? Hope you make sure to share this thought gem to any woman who goes even near you, since you are such a big fan of accountability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/25 09:35 AM |
| – | Under what circumstances would a younger woman be willing to realistically date an older man?I agree this is it. If it's not a pattern and you believably "click" over things you have in common as separate individuals, it doesn't creep me out. Guys in my hobby circles might have had a chance if it was really good fit otherwise. But one that's already in their 30s does have to have their shit together in general and not be insecure, controlling or unpleasant personality or else it will sound some alarm bells much much faster. And the ones that I saw visibly going after other young women w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/25 04:50 AM |
| 2 | A lot of women's ideals and opinions are contradictory and don't make sense.I agree. And in Finland we don't really talk about casual sex because it is everyone's own business but we are sort of open to people having it for most part, as long as they keep it to settings where it's appropriate. Ie most parents will provide their kids birth control just in case and it's not a huge deal. Young people will go to bars and leave with someone who they think is attractive, which has got weirdly puritan cultures like US actually slut shaming our women, and assuming they are all … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/25 02:12 PM |
| 8 | CMV: BetaBucks is framed too beautifully. The reality is that when a woman settles in looks for a less physically developed man, she infatilizes the man, treats him as a child without a sex drive and also puts impossible labor demands on him, like a toxic mother-son relationship.I agree. The way to avoid being subjected to power differential is not enter a relationship that has an inherent one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/25 01:55 PM |
| 8 | Another blue pill lie: The romanticization of "blended families"It has nothing to do with female centredness, as both biological parents, one of whom tends to be male, have potential of leaving the relationship. Unless you somehow think it's better for the kids for their mom to be essentially sex slave and maid in desperate attempt to "purchase" the other party to stay against his actual will, and even then it doesn't necessarily work. I honestly doubt that's the point anyone in their right mind is trying to make, cause obviously that's not healthy for anybo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/25 01:48 PM |
| 2 | Women don't move on faster after a relationship ends. Men are just easier to replace.Well romantic past at least, sure. Don't think there's any woman who is nostalgic. It ranges from amused but not that interested in it at best to mostly commonly either mildly annoyed or relieved. I think Op is kinda wrong though because even though women have options, they aren't really that much quicker to jump on those options and women who stay single for some time after breakup still cope much better, it might even increase their happiness because statistically women are better off single o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/25 07:23 PM |
| 3 | Q4M: When you hear women say they want to feel "protected", what does that mean to you?Yeah I agree it isn't. Not disagreeing with you there | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/25 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: When you hear women say they want to feel "protected", what does that mean to you?I kinda agree with this. First things first we both are gonna run because there's no point escalating situation. And it's not because I'm coward, it's because I think people are more important than belongings. If one of us stumbles the other helps them up, and if someone is caught then calling for help is priority for whoever wasn't. In my life experience, and many other women's, it's always other women who protect women. If you ask almost any woman they have zero examples of men actually protec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/25 06:40 PM |
| 20 | Q4M: When you hear women say they want to feel "protected", what does that mean to you?He didn't claim they didn't. He just said that's what he hears / assumes when woman says she wants to feel protected | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/25 06:22 PM |
| 1 | Should women be “giving guys a chance”?I'm glad they haven't. I'd probably sound like former stray cat in need of rehoming. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/25 01:44 AM |
| -1 | A noticeable amount of women care more about hating men than they do about helping womenTrue but don't act like you can't imagine what sort of stuff that particular commenter was referring to. I don't need extra X to think so I assume you can too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/25 05:20 PM |
| 5 | A noticeable amount of women care more about hating men than they do about helping womenAgree. Only organisations that actually help men in situations MRA likes to scream about are founded by women. Usually same women they complain about because "ouch my hurt butt how dare women bring up they are being exploited and not try to obscure who is doing the exploiting, how about meeeeeeeeee". World would be helluva lot better off in the hands of "mean feminists" and I have seen zero of them take delight about imagining other human beings being eaten by bear just because those humans don'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/25 05:11 PM |
| -1 | A noticeable amount of women care more about hating men than they do about helping womenWay to confess to your lack of reading comprehension, I wonder if you are really that stupid or if your boys vs girls pipe brain is making you look like simpleton. Either way result isn't pretty. To take pity on you this once because I'm bored enough (and you are probably some poor woman's son that I pity more than you) in latter paragraph we are very obviously talking about gaining support for being shitty person. Surely nobody who actually uses their brain to comprehend what they are reading t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/25 05:06 PM |
| 2 | A noticeable amount of women care more about hating men than they do about helping womenAnd almost every instance of women getting help or intervention before they are harrassed to death is from other women, too. I think by and large women care about women and thinking every feminist is an exception to it just because they are also rightfully pissed at men is grasping straws | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/25 04:57 PM |
| 2 | Some guys really need to sexualize interactions with women moreI don't think they are leading them on either. There's just big variety in what different people consider friendship, some are just bad match and some have poor social skills despite being women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/25 07:39 PM |
| 5 | Some guys really need to sexualize interactions with women moreI think he's just trying to say that it's easy to end up having bad friendship with someone who isn't willing to invest in you genuinely and that it's easy to be spineless, not know how to navigate out of those situations and end up complaining online.. instead of dropping people who either don't truly see you as potential friend or aren't good fit for you, and solving the issue. At least that's what I read there. I thought it was on the side of "explanations" rather than "excuses". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/25 07:29 PM |
| 2 | Some guys really need to sexualize interactions with women morePretending to be friend and then being sad she "doesn't feel the same way" when all you ever presented yourself as was a friend. You can't go around offering people snacks and then get offended they didn't insist on ordering whole lunch when nothing about your approach said it was even in the menu. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/25 07:24 PM |
| 2 | Men simply want virgin women because of security and feeling of being special.I'm last person to give anyone relationship advice except if it's to leave asap, but I personally don't believe men like to hear about other guys at all no matter if context is actually favorable to them and sometimes not even if neither relationship is romantic. But I agree that particular part of her situation is absolutely something to not disclose especially if the reason to missing ten percent is something physical that can be worked around but not really altered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/25 01:45 PM |
| – | Men are not upset about not being able to date, they're upset about not being able to participate in hookup culture.Oh my long term partners brand of annoying is not annoying enough to actually drive me out of my mind. The dude microwaves his coffee and sent me a video of it when I was lucky enough to not be there to see it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/25 01:32 PM |
| 3 | Men simply want virgin women because of security and feeling of being special.I think culture is really huge part of it. All mammals have body hair and I'm certain that part of the reason it got demonised was the need to polarise things into extreme masculinity (and paint it inherently gross) and extreme femininity that is it's opposite because otherwise it just makes so little sense to resent someone for not being a lizard, plus up until at least 70s we all had remarkably different attitudes to it. And the missing hygiene standards are, as you seem to have recognised (no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/25 01:02 PM |
| – | Men are not upset about not being able to date, they're upset about not being able to participate in hookup culture.I rarely agree with stands defending men but I think this is it. I play video games, I'm ex raid leader and through them I have known and sometimes even befriended plenty of men. What you say checks out. I often pity myself and rest of the women for having to put up with it so I hope nobody takes me for a bleeding heart softie here but usually when you feel urge to over simplify men you are wrong simply because contrary to popular joke they are actually people. Very annoying people if you try to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/25 12:51 PM |
| – | Men are not upset about not being able to date, they're upset about not being able to participate in hookup culture.I think it's also not really a bad thing if one is using it as motivation to maximise their true potential, and not to whine for things out of their control. We wouldn't have bird song if birds weren't trying to get laid, and it's all in the best interests of next generation because those efforts help us to vet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/25 12:38 PM |
| – | Men are not upset about not being able to date, they're upset about not being able to participate in hookup culture.I think it's a bit more complicated than that. It tends to be main complaint related to being "husband material" is not that they don't want to marry, it's just that many dudes feel unwanted and gross and want women to validate they are good enough, and because of how men view sex they want that to be by instant lusting. I think every gender has some fantasies of being wanted so much that all sense leaves ones head, but those dudes you hear whining are already bitter with very bad self confidenc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/25 12:27 PM |
| 5 | Men simply want virgin women because of security and feeling of being special.Yeah well they aren't but I get your point and agree. I think it's because key aspect of patriarchy is making men believe they are filthy and undesirable with no inherent value because how else are you going to keep them prioritising kings over their actual families. It just seeps into many things from there. I think people of both genders would do well to remember that male and female genitalia aren't really that different once you look past obvious structure differences that are required so th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/25 10:19 AM |
| 9 | Men simply want virgin women because of security and feeling of being special.I don't know any women who actually bother to think back to their past sexual experiences, because once the bond that made them do it is gone so is the attraction to that memory. It's not validating to them, it's just unnecessary. I am sure that if you took a poll, mere mention of their ex's bits is going to make most women heave. And I realise this (very obvious) bit of info isn't as clear to men as it is to women because I can see by their behaviour that they assume that same things about them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/25 10:08 AM |
| – | On passport bros.Remember that women from other cultures are just humans. They are not a cheat code to get away from dealing with full package of having to deal with another human being, and we as women should not ever believe they are that because it's a form of objectifying "those other women" in itself. They also have same rights in divorce than any other woman once they are in the new country, and they are further away from influence of anyone who might judge them for it so it happens a lot. Those passport b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/25 09:51 AM |
| – | On passport bros.This is the best answer. There's no cheat code in life but generally whatever motivates people to get off their ass and try is better than staying where they were. And the foreign women are, in the end of the day, just humans. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/25 09:37 AM |
| 2 | We should start sexualizing menIndeed. Also trying to make men give consideration to if they actually like someone before trying to get with them and assuming women are interchangeable with each other | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/25 07:08 PM |
| 1 | I don’t think men are “intimidated” by strong independent womenYou should read it again. Because you got it backwards and arrived exactly to same misconception I was accusing short men of getting to and continuing to get rejected. You projected exactly opposite of what I said into my comment because of your own misconception that's exactly like those men's | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/25 05:58 PM |
| 1 | We should start sexualizing menWell yeah women aren't monolith and can have flaws that don't make them great partner in one way or another. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/25 03:30 PM |
| 8 | We should start sexualizing menRight. Sit on coffee break with sufficient horde of women and I guarantee conversation isn't pretty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/25 04:37 AM |
| 9 | We should start sexualizing menThe number that spoke behind your back and tried to collectively figure out every single thing about you was likely even greater. Sources: having sat on coffee breaks with hordes of office women who aren't even shy about it There is an accountant in my work place that has naturally very authoritarian melodious deep voice. One that you think when you think about hypnosis Iol. It works on customers but it appears that's not the only group it works on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/25 04:33 AM |
| 11 | We should start sexualizing menRating.... What... Are you serious 😭 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/25 04:31 AM |
| 1 | "Every woman is unique in their taste in men" lol no they aren'tYeah and that tends to be pretty universal woman experience. In high school I thought I had crush on best looking boy on our class level. Until our class went camping and very giggle filled sleep deprived hang out with 6 or 7 of my peers revealed they thought I was faking the crush because in none of their opinion he was even handsome. Turned out that I was one of five or so girls out of 100 on our class level to ever have any sort of interest in him. Sure that's enough girls that if he targeted… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/25 04:15 AM |
| 2 | "Every woman is unique in their taste in men" lol no they aren'tYou are kinda right in that venues for dating have disappeared and just approaching women in places where they are to work or something else is pretty bad idea. I know I'd let the HR do the talking for me unless I knew the guy extremely well because the odds he throws a tantrum that affects my work in some negative way are just too great. I think it's also why HR is interested in it. Too many men handle rejections poorly and you have to have your own back in case it escalates. That doesn't neces… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/25 03:55 AM |
| 1 | "Every woman is unique in their taste in men" lol no they aren'tThat's it. Some qualities are near universally liked but that doesn't mean that there's zero market for anything else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/25 03:38 AM |
| 1 | "Every woman is unique in their taste in men" lol no they aren'tNo woman would ever register to app that dictates they have to be with a man. It's good as an option not as expectation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/25 03:35 AM |
| 1 | "Every woman is unique in their taste in men" lol no they aren'tI honestly think you have to either stink (perhaps even literally) or be overdoing whole friendship thing to point where they have no clue you are interested or realise it too late for it to count. Someone who might be Dr Nerdlove but I'm not 100% sure has a great article called Attraction has expiration date about it. Usually if you are whatever local population for most part is not, you get some bonus points to looks because (at risk of sounding too clinical) one of the things that has evoluti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/25 03:22 AM |
| 2 | "Every woman is unique in their taste in men" lol no they aren'tIt's fun isn't it, how every incel bro uses tinder because they want to instant filter women based on their looks more conveniently but then whine when it works that way other way too. It's almost like there's a cause and effect between that and going for people who are fine with that sort of filter system. And no I'm not "looks doesn't matter" kind of person but there's a lot of middle ground between that and needing to see whole screen size instant photo of someone else designed to drown out e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/25 03:02 AM |
| 2 | Men are angry about the current dating dynamics because they don't want to feel cucked.I think you summed up feelings that go to it rather well. And all of those are human emotions that make sense. Put like that I don't have much against the point. Of course in reality reasons why people do things at certain points of their lives can be more complex, and none of that does anything to justify treating ones partner like crap, but those emotions can exist without toxic fantasies contributing to it. Maybe only very minor thing I don't like about post is the expression of give sex beca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/25 11:55 PM |
| 1 | I am tired of people pretending there are no drawbacks to having kids later in lifeI think having kids is just one of those things that's a lose-lose. I mean no matter what you do you can't win. Teen parents may not have maturity but they have unparalleled energy, and they still have time to mature before they have to outmatch their own teenagers in logic because you typically start with toddlers and babies where main challenge is something like "keep alive" and bonus points are for functioning half decent on little sleep. So I think we should support them. Large part of reaso… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/25 05:45 PM |
| 1 | I don’t think men are “intimidated” by strong independent womenI agree it's wise to leave "winners" of certain fields of competition alone. Because you win by conforming and unfortunately conforming in many toxic environments means stereotypical gender roles for both sexes. And also because above certain threshold rich people tend to suck especially if they were born to it (and they won't admit they were, they will say they saved up when in actual reality their parents made it possible). I think issue is it doesn't apply to every single individual so even p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/25 05:16 PM |
| 3 | There nothing wrong in a 30 year old man dating a 20 year old girlI think we have to think positive because thinking it will all go to ruin means we can accidentally dampen each others fighting spirits and give up more than we intended to! Women dying when angry men have backlash over loss of their privileges (to abuse women) has sadly always been the case. And every time we make headway with people's rights, backlash is prone to happen. But that doesn't mean we can't endure the backlash and build better future. I'd argue it's more important than ever to belie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/25 04:45 PM |
| 3 | There nothing wrong in a 30 year old man dating a 20 year old girlRight. Because when someone is in a bad way as person and severely lacks coping mechanisms, last thing they can take is being wrong. So when they hit their 30s with career, medieval political beliefs, lots of misogyny and confidence in their social standing because they can impress dudebros who think like them AND it turns out women either don't care about their money or want a lot more of it to go for guy with no social skills and even more awful personality than he had before, they get even an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/25 04:04 PM |
| 1 | There nothing wrong in a 30 year old man dating a 20 year old girlOnce read a blog of guy complaining in around 2010 about women turning his life into hell because they are generally unreliable, have unrealistic expectations and ghost him often. And that "women" gossip to their friends and are rude and ridicule him and pull childish shit. Lot of emotional text about how he's ready to get married but no one has any wife qualities and he's scared because everyone is so unreliable and flimsy, you can't take them for their word etc. Lots of being baffled of women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/25 03:54 PM |
| 0 | Women dont view having access to causal sex as a benefitBullshit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/25 04:07 PM |
| 5 | Women dont view having access to causal sex as a benefitBasically what you are imagining in your head is princess fantasy where guy is both rich and nice and happens to want to take you on date of your dreams exactly as you are. First of all, most do not even pay whole date where I live, that's an American thing. Secondly the women don't gain anything more than date from that (or else there would be queues of them trying to get on date with every guy, just use your eyes that's not happening) because the simple upkeep to get kind of experience that ac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/25 11:53 AM |
| -3 | Women dont view having access to causal sex as a benefitOnly if she does what your lot call gold digging. Otherwise she doesn't even get money in exchange for misery, and most women don't even think that is worth it (which is why you see more and more choosing to stay single). I would personally not shorten my life and fuck up every other life quality measure for money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/25 11:46 AM |
| 9 | Women dont view having access to causal sex as a benefitHow does this reply relate to my comment? It looks like you just came here to spew some random brain mush thats not even reply to me or accidentally posted under wrong comment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/25 10:08 AM |
| 2 | Women dont view having access to causal sex as a benefitBecause it's stupid. As a woman I often actually know roughly how many people someone has slept with and all the so called low body count women also despise you for objectifying them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/25 10:03 AM |
| 4 | Women dont view having access to causal sex as a benefitMost women lose their virginity in a way they regret and resent, as you'd learn if you went and frequented spaces where women talk to other women to have heart to hearts and vent about pains of living. They fall in love and are exploited for it, often through heavy manipulation. It tends to happen earlier than they are ready to take that step. Women in their heart are lot more chaste than that statistic says and it's often bad memory to them that they are actively trying to forget. As for relati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/25 09:51 AM |
| -5 | Women dont view having access to causal sex as a benefitI wouldn't call it having "more privilege" because relationships in general suck for women in every other measure in a way they don't on average suck for men (statistics confirm my life experience there) but what becomes to validation yes women have a privilege in that area because common dynamic is they are the sex that's being courted. If men weren't so abusive (and women so socialised to tolerate all kinds of exploitation as long as it's "not that bad") it would probably translate into happin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/25 09:35 AM |
| 9 | Women dont view having access to causal sex as a benefitPrecisely. I know plenty of extremely low body count women who are extremely annoyed when that's brought up. It's not that they want to have casual sex or that they have lot of experience in terms of numbers but whole idea is gross and objectifying even if your count is literally just your first love that you dated for a while. One doesn't learn about that if they are up in arms about numbers because last thing any woman wants to do is disclose that info to someone who is already being gross. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/25 09:19 AM |
| 1 | How Can Women Complain When They're So Privileged By Default?Oh you went off big time then. Statistics don't lie, you can disagree on reasons but men shit up women's happiness. In virtually all of the relationships. If it's majority of the women in relationships then it's not the problem with women not picking the only apple in barrel that's not rotten but that the whole barrel is so rotten that it's not worth risking it or even sticking your hand in. That's not entitlement issue, it's rotten and life dangerous barrel issue where only thing you have been … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/25 08:48 PM |
| 1 | The majority of Red Pill men are incredibly insecureI don't care if I prove your points. I'm here to discuss. But no I don't really agree it's necessarily net negative because as I said somewhere between wall of text it's not about how many times certain emotion shows up or how long it lasts but about what you do about it when it does. If it's demanding other people separate potatoes and sauce for you so that you can deal with your issue, yes you are going to lose out by revealing you think that's the solution to your problem. Because as I have p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/25 06:56 PM |
| 6 | Apparently women just magically turn “demisexusal” around average menIt seems to have something to do with dragons, this is suspicious | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/25 06:39 PM |
| 1 | How Can Women Complain When They're So Privileged By Default?Women suffering in relationships is simply statistical data. Compare any two women who are otherwise equal and in 9/10 cases the single one has better self confidence, more free time and is happier overall. It's not my fault you don't like the truth even though it's easily observable if one is bit more smart than a boot. That's not up for debate at all and I'm not talking with science denialists. But once we have established it's what it is, I think it's multiple reasons that make sense if you l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/25 05:43 PM |
| 1 | The majority of Red Pill men are incredibly insecureIt's not a fact at all. Look closer and you see from very same study that the only reason lesbians come on top on most domestically abused women is because they included abuse by past partner's who were men. So, men are abusing them even more than they abuse straight women but in statistics it gets listed based on abuse victims orientation and not by who abused them. Simple Google would have told you that once same data is rearranged by perpetrator, men are doing vast majority of abusing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/25 03:16 PM |
| 2 | The majority of Red Pill men are incredibly insecureIt's only sexy if he can stay on top of his emotions. Not my measure so don't shoot the messenger. You know as well as I do that from sexyness point of view women do not want their men to remind children so when they want to see you show emotion that means emotions you are dealing with better than a child would. Yes, one can say women want you to show emotion and then succeed through it when they are asking you to share your emotions. Or at very least be dealing with it in mature way. So no angr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/25 11:44 AM |
| 3 | The majority of Red Pill men are incredibly insecureBecause many parents have the archaic idea boys raise themselves. This is why we had studies in past decades that showed gross differences in how much each gender is for example talked to as children. Some parents have moved on but it's only been 30 years since this was pointed out and there have always been idiots who don't believe in science especially when it says they are neglecting their children. You still hear lot of parents saying things like boys are easier to raise, only for it to come… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/25 09:06 PM |
| -7 | The majority of Red Pill men are incredibly insecureThey said emotion, not attempts to control whole world around you according to your emotion. One of the main reasons why showing emotion is sexy is because admitting to it without needing to lash out shows strength. It goes doubly because anger is such an easy emotion to escape to after you feel embarrassed or anything uncomfortable if you are a man. We don't like easy, we want to see you squeeze yourself through what is actually hard and come out on the other side undamaged. If you can't all go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/25 08:37 PM |
| 0 | The majority of Red Pill men are incredibly insecureYeah if they actually feel that way before relationship and it's not a case of "catching" someone then coercing them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/25 08:32 PM |
| 1 | The majority of Red Pill men are incredibly insecureI think there are many ways to live successful life and it may even be better that one doesn't try to force romantic components to be core pillar of it. Making friends and family the focus is not a bad plan. I don't do blatantly transactional relationships in the sense that's being discussed here because it's just not something I find worth the hassle for me honestly but I can see there are some positives to them. For example you don't ever have to hurt inside because you don't know how to suppo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/25 08:24 PM |
| 0 | The majority of Red Pill men are incredibly insecureFor as far as I'm concerned your strategy is valid considering what you want. It sounds like you have pretty high looks requirements, whether you recognise them as high or not. And you know yourself that you want women to put in some significant effort to how they look. Which has the positive that you realise it's effort for them and you aren't sitting there demanding it for nothing in return. Your tactic might be a bit cold and you might rightfully be called shallow but the most important thing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/25 08:08 PM |
| 3 | How Can Women Complain When They're So Privileged By Default?Thank you, I know I'm a delight <3 I think they just don't want to face that their fellow men are piss poor partners and one night stands no matter what they have been told and that even ones that are capable of being good friends can badly suck as partners, even in basic things one would take for granted as same dudes friend. It would mean confronting so many of them are outright lying to their face with what seems like straight confidence. Or process that amount of effort they have been taught… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/25 05:01 PM |
| 5 | How Can Women Complain When They're So Privileged By Default?That. Just look at how women receive orgasms alone and with other women but almost never with men. How can anyone say women have any kind of advantage in dating when we cannot even squeeze one orgasm out of it and several statistics show it weakens our self confidence and life quality compared to staying single. So we get endless opportunities to what, be miserable? It's like saying that because raccoons can always eat trash they have it better than people because people can't always order a res… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/25 01:33 PM |
| 1 | What’s the point of marriage and having kids with men?And there's also that using donor you can improve not just efficiency and emotional wellbeing of everyone in equation but ideally things like eye sight or health by choosing a good match unclouded by emotions and restraints you get with the traditional family unit. Of course that's not better than involved parent because nobody can replace value of someone who loves you and consistently shows up for you. But if you really don't want to gamble it and don't like the odds of finding such person for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/25 04:54 AM |
| 1 | Advice geared towards men is circular and designed to drive you insaneHuman interaction is too complex to be summed up in cover it all dating advice. People have preferences that aren't the same between two individuals. Additionally people spend a lot of time chasing things they don't need and that don't end up even being things they wanted, as if individual preferences didn't muddy it up enough from the view point of wanting to make it follow one set of previously defined rules. Nobody designs it that way, life is just infuriating and you need to stay focused to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/25 03:15 AM |
| 1 | If women are kind of disgusted by male sexuality by default, then they really shouldn't be so shocked that men too have negative feelings about theirs.Yep the little thin thread in their post that was genuine and not conflating thoughts and (nonconsensual) actions with each other has kinda made full circle there. Because yes people date annoying people who they hate all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/25 02:57 AM |
| 1 | If women are kind of disgusted by male sexuality by default, then they really shouldn't be so shocked that men too have negative feelings about theirs.I'm going to be on your side if I'm ever at the bar watching that sort of complaint being dismissed. Maybe I won't be able to do much but I'll say something like "Wtf you just let customers grope others here without their consent? Is anyone safe in this place?" Some women behave disgusting and shouldn't get away with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/25 02:55 AM |
| 2 | The average man cannot set healthy boundaries or feel at ease and comfortable in a relationship because he’s so replaceable she’ll just walk awayThe point about living life wasn't advice for keeping a woman. One should live their life and try to be good person for themselves, and not bend over backwards for dating. Thank you for clarifying your point! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/25 06:28 AM |
| 1 | The average man cannot set healthy boundaries or feel at ease and comfortable in a relationship because he’s so replaceable she’ll just walk awayThe point is you add nothing necessary to her life even if you are rich and famous so you shouldn't take up uphill battle of trying to be something she needs. Even if you were most brilliant funny and resourceful person in the world it's possible one day she decides she just doesn't like who you are. Instead you should live your life, try to be good person in general so that you can face yourself in the mirror and not bend over backwards for someone else chasing for level of security that doesn'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/25 09:25 PM |
| 6 | Assuming you'll never enter a romantic relationship should be the default rather than a "worst case" outcome.It would also restore some respect to marriage. And I don't mean in old fashioned way of glorifying it as life goal but respect of people actually being able to assume you love your spouse and that there is no way your union isn't special and important. Nowadays when I see couple marrying my thoughts are "here we go again... hope you didn't plunge yourselves to debt for this". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/25 01:59 AM |
| 8 | Assuming you'll never enter a romantic relationship should be the default rather than a "worst case" outcome.Full agree. People should start from assuming they won't ever have partner. That would be healthier for both women and men for partly same and partially different reasons. It would increase safety and self confidence, remove need for lot of negative interactions like hitting on or being hit on by people you aren't meant to be with and allow everyone be more comfortable around each other. Less rejections too because it would take longer time and some actual mutual compatibility before people jump… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/25 01:45 AM |
| 1 | What do you think about the idea that most women won’t date a bisexual guy? Do you think it’s true?They can't anyway though if we follow same logic because with that logic even the genitals of people of same sex are wildly different from each other, especially women's. And that's before counting rest of the body and how much that varies. Scents aren't same either. So I have never understood how with that same logic they are not depriving their spouse of all the people of their own gender and failing to offer them things, if the idea is that one person should be able to offer everything. By th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/25 01:36 AM |
| 1 | What do you think about the idea that most women won’t date a bisexual guy? Do you think it’s true?What thoughts you think I'm accountable for and to whom? I don't need to avoid accountability for my preferences because I'm accountable to no one to begin with. Just say you like to whine and be emotional and don't care about logic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/25 01:25 AM |
| 2 | What do you think about the idea that most women won’t date a bisexual guy? Do you think it’s true?Plenty of women also simply feel inferior to men. It's not nice to talk about it or even acknowledge it but if one feels inherently less important it's easy to understand why they'd feel threatened "having to compete with a man" whether they are a lesbian not wanting to "risk it" with bisexual woman or a hetero woman refusing to date bisexual men. They assume at least on some subconscious level that they can never compare to a man so their partner is inevitably going to choose one instead of the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/25 01:21 AM |
| 3 | What do you think about the idea that most women won’t date a bisexual guy? Do you think it’s true?I agree with all that. Also "dude" is often used in a way that in itself implies disgust. I personally think making men think themselves as disgusting things that can never be truly desired or wanted at all without being part of power is big part of how men were persuaded, all through history, to put king's before their wives and made easier to control. Never realised that intense hatred and dismissal of male body made it to wedding dress code. But it makes sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/25 01:13 AM |
| 4 | What do you think about the idea that most women won’t date a bisexual guy? Do you think it’s true?I think only reason women judge man on masculinity more than men judge women on femininity is because masculinity is overall seen as more valuable quality. It's the same reason why tomboys are considered cute or only a little annoying at most and make up so big part of heroines, but flamboyant boys are considered "fags" and get to be the villain or their sidekick. Femininity is seen as mildly entertaining or worthless and inherently a little suspicious. Other men judge men for being too feminine… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/25 01:02 AM |
| 0 | What do you think about the idea that most women won’t date a bisexual guy? Do you think it’s true?Because it is. The idea that it's bad for man to "be like women" and that it's one of most cheapening, weak and suspicious things for him to remind women in any way comes from deep rooted misogyny. Some women might want a man who has high status and that might not be patriarchys fault but conflating things like power, significance and strength inherently with "being as far from woman as possible" even at the cost of ones humanity is patriarchal value system for determining status. And you'll fin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/25 12:55 AM |
| 1 | You cannot make comparisons between sexual autonomy and freedom and taxation/monetary system/currency/resources. They are morally unbound and any attempt to compare them is sickI really don't think it's even that close honestly because even though it's exchange you can have seemingly or even exact same thing and have "the value" of it be wildly different dependending on recipient, while generally (mind you, generally) you can only ever sell same toy for close to similar price. Like sure you could get bucket of apples for it but probably not trade it for a goat all that easily. There are plenty of people who I think are really cool but can't talk easily with for example… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/25 11:58 PM |
| 1 | You cannot make comparisons between sexual autonomy and freedom and taxation/monetary system/currency/resources. They are morally unbound and any attempt to compare them is sickI'm just saying that the transactionality isn't similar to money which whole your comment seems to agree with. I'm also saying that because we can't quantify it outside what you just yourself pointed out, the participants will, we cannot tax it or force it because the will of participants is the only reliable measure we have. So taking that out of equation would leave us fumbling it. The first line in my comment is basically what whole comment is about and rest is just expanding it for good meas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/25 04:50 PM |
| 5 | You cannot make comparisons between sexual autonomy and freedom and taxation/monetary system/currency/resources. They are morally unbound and any attempt to compare them is sickAnd birth rates don't matter all that much when lack of human rights makes wellbeing in your country disappear. If you believed in rebirth, how many months as raped and abused woman would you be willing to suffer for one year you get to spend as an average man? If answer isn't roughly 1:1 in terms of time then by having such county exist you are increasing suffering more than you are increasing joy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/25 09:39 PM |
| 1 | You cannot make comparisons between sexual autonomy and freedom and taxation/monetary system/currency/resources. They are morally unbound and any attempt to compare them is sickSex can't be really redistributed in the sense of increasing fairness either (which I think is the intended angle of opening) because the woman is one of the people who have account in that redistribution, by a virtue of being human. We would need to be able to qualify what she is giving away in a way that is fair and then we would need to qualify what the recipient is receiving. To put it in extremes is the woman who is immediately killing herself after the encounter giving as much as one who i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/25 09:25 PM |
| 6 | You cannot make comparisons between sexual autonomy and freedom and taxation/monetary system/currency/resources. They are morally unbound and any attempt to compare them is sickIt's not transactional in the same sense money is because it's part of the person, ultimately unquantifiable and cannot be separated from it's source. You don't wake up in the morning and think you should give your friend three hugs in exchange for one bowl of pasta, and those are the easiest things to quantify. You wake up, go about your day, you friend shows up and invites you to eat and they look like they need an extra hug so you hug them. But there's no exchange ratio that defines whether t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/25 08:47 PM |
| 2 | Most people nowadays enter relationships like a contract, and then they try to find any loop hole in them to get what they want from them, no matter if it hurts the other person involved.I think it's not for omission of truth in same sense lying or misleading intentionally is. Rather I think it's "omission" in "if nothing is agreed it's best to assume we are following don't ask and don't tell policy" according those people's logic that's alternative to your monogamous one. As in if you raise the cat on the table you can't put it back so to protect themselves against jealousy or other relationship-y stuff (because they are not in one yet and assume neither party wants to deal wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/25 03:42 PM |
| 3 | Most people nowadays enter relationships like a contract, and then they try to find any loop hole in them to get what they want from them, no matter if it hurts the other person involved.I don't actually disagree with you but I can think plenty of reasons why people might not want to start out from assuming monogamy. For one not discussing other partners you are entertaining keeps focus on the relationship you want it to be on and person you are currently spending time with, and many people might not even want to know. I think 3 months is quite long to not have that conversation at all but I understand why people might not want heavier topics like exclusivity talk in the middle … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/25 03:31 PM |
| 2 | Most people nowadays enter relationships like a contract, and then they try to find any loop hole in them to get what they want from them, no matter if it hurts the other person involved.Right. There are many things that might make one good or bad parent so someone isn't doomed because they fall short in one thing, but overall dating makes helluva lot more sense of once one gets rid of main character syndrome and accepts that primary purpose of human attraction isn't supplying everybody with spouses but supplying next generation with parents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/25 03:26 PM |
| 1 | Men’s lives don’t suck because men repress their feelings or hide them, men’s lives suck because society doesn’t care about themIt is emotional labour if you expect same person to take care of all your emotional needs or always go to women with them. It's not healthy or fair for the people who end up being targeted. I know your point was they don't have better options but it still doesn't change that it creates situation where the targeted person/people are carrying disproportionate load. Recognising emotional labour exists and adds to inequality is not targeted attack or character assassination, it's perceiving reality … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/25 12:42 PM |
| 2 | The best way to attract women is to not try.That there is the key if anything is. The men who I have seen in my life who had lot of luck with women (if we exclude ones that are obviously riding on their looks or money) have had like two things in common and those are being happy and relaxed and being a shameless flirt / easygoing dude who doesn't withhold positive attention from anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/25 12:24 PM |
| 3 | The best way to attract women is to not try.To be fair I have always thought "hard enough work gets nerd the girl that is just not attracted to him and suddenly makes her want him" fantasies were for men to feel like they have hope with whoever they want rather than for women to enjoy because I have never seen not heard of a woman who likes continued attention from someone who just doesn't know how to give up. I always saw it like every horse book aimed at teenage girls ever where they are not allowed to have a horse but then the horse sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/25 12:10 PM |
| 1 | The best way to attract women is to not try.Nobody likes a floor carpet or unhappy person. You should treat people fairly, grow as a person where you can and not be an asshole, but bending over backwards for someone will just make them either take advantage of you or pity you, both of which are uncomfortable. And if you lose yourself doing that then there's nobody there for them to fall for because then you are just exactly identical to every other person who is just trying to give them correct answers all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/25 12:06 PM |
| 1 | Should women only befriend men they are attracted to in order to avoid manipulating men?Why do red pillers in this sub either have the sanest or most battshit crazy takes on every topic and never anything in between. Your comment is summing up my entire life experience spot on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/25 08:26 PM |
| 3 | The average man cannot set healthy boundaries or feel at ease and comfortable in a relationship because he’s so replaceable she’ll just walk awayYour worst competition isn't the other men. It's her, the woman herself. The reason there's so little attention from women as large group is because lot of women are very content by themselves and already consider you extra to their life to begin with. You are never, ever, going to find balance by trying to avoid everything that might make her leave you because if she wants to she will. It will apply all your life and almost with every woman because you can't change the fundamental dynamic that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/25 07:26 PM |
| 1 | Men who pay Child Support - What do you pay per month?Same. Every time this comes up I see ton of men bitching about amount they have to pay solely because it makes their life hard, without taking into account children are expensive to raise and they are not even paying for the cost of daycare. I used to fall for it because thousands seem a lot... until you realise that daycare alone eats up all or most of it, it probably won't even cover food after it (at least not unless the mom is expected to put in more unpaid time she doesn't have) and that th… | /r/Divorce_Men | 06/06/25 01:09 PM |
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