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Not any guy. Top 1% guy (in looks) can get several booty call within a day using apps. I don't disagree that however women have it easier in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 11:37 AM
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6'4 is not uncommon in nordic countries. Objectively I would say he is within top 2-5% maybe. But any way, he is just a "hot guy", not unicorn (as you are stating with your 0.000001%, lol). A fat chick can't LTR a hot guy, and will simply get perma pumped and dump if she aim too high - and hot guy can land hot chicks for both casual and LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 06:52 AM
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I'm a guy, one of my best friend is 6'4, has the body of an underwear model, when he was single a year ago I can tell you he was drowning in matches / dates / sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 06:03 AM
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agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 08:29 AM
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"dating" is not a natural form of relationship between man and woman to begin with. What's natural is for the two to come together, get married, and have kids. "Dating" is a modern concept of a hedonistic society. But bro, nowadays dating is the one relationship that come closest to a natural form of relationship between a man and woman. Besides arranged marriage, it's the only gateway to marriage. So not sure about your argument
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:18 AM
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Friends and family will never be really honest about stuff like that, strangers and bullies will though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:05 PM
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But do you find him ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:58 AM
1

So Chris Hemsworth is "ugly"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:48 AM
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Plastic surgery, for 50k-100k you can do wonders nowadays. The real hard one is if he is too short - that ain't easy change short of going through a gruelling process with huge risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:42 AM
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Lack of confidence Lack of vibe
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:40 AM
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If she is calling me ugly, old fossile, she is not appreciative enoguh - even if she isn't saying it to my face - as someone else said, if she break the illusion, she fails.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:50 PM
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It's all about what options you have. In any case, for all men, I believe having a partner that's really attracted to them is "the dream", but for those who can't get that (due to various bad cards dealt by fate), the next best thing is to buy the illusion and try not thinking about it. Very few would put up with someone who actually don't allow them to live in this illusion (so ie. very few would put with a young girlfriend that's telling them to their face that they are unnatractive, or lettin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:51 PM
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Well, he isn't dumb - he knows that. For rich, old guys, giving a fraction of your NW to get laid and with a hottie at that, is an acceptable trade-off. Only the most delulu would think they can get to date a woman 40y their junior only thanks to their personality and looks. What's criticized about average BB is that the men are delulu, providing for the girl while thinking she is the One, despite her not only reciprocicating, but not being anything special her self.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:22 PM
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They don't deserve word of kindness because they are fat, ugly or old? And because they want to find someone who will give them a chance despite how they look? :(
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:44 AM
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It's no more exploitative than having to work 8-6/5 to bring money on the table to be able to actually live your life. World isn't a fair, ideal place. And if those girls make those decisions, they probably weighted the pros and the cons, and are happier to have this option than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:39 AM
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Of course
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:28 AM
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The "fear" of BB is about being taken advtange. Men don't want to BB for a 40y woman who doesn't genuinely respect them or "thirst for them". It's easier to accept your girl is thirsting over Chad if she is 40y your junior lol, you still get the benefit of having sex with someone much hotter than yourself, so all good, you are not taken advantange of. (only if she stops putting out, and start refusing having sex). At least that's how I would feel in that hypothetical scenario . Not that I would …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:17 AM
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So love is never for personality :(
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:05 AM
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So you married someone with a similar situation to you - good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:05 AM
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BB when you have the options and when you are "wining" is fine. We are not talking about BB to fuck a 40y women as a 40y man. Here they are talking about fucking 20y-30y as a 60-70y man. Also, the guy still hold the power here provided he has a prenup. He can break up with her any day, and with his money he would be able to find someone in a heart beat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:03 AM
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Commented the same lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:59 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:58 AM
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I would dump her, because if I have enough money to attract a 20y something as 60y, then I have enough money to attract many others that will at least be respectful and a bit more appreciative. Hence why prenup are important when you have money.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:57 AM
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To be fair, it can happen. I have seen pics of guys that went from 3-4 (non masculine, childish face despite being 25+) to 7-8 (basically the most handsome in a group of 10-15 random guys). Plastic surgery is starting to pick up... but it's costly in both money, and more importantly time. Also the risks are non trivial (if you don't heal well, or if your surgeon botch you completely and you have to do a revision).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:11 PM
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You are obviously implying what people should do if they have 2 brain cells.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:42 PM
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"Maybe her divorced friends are whispering that she can do better than an old man." Fair enough, but then she is just dumb if she believes that. A 40 something with kids is very very rarely gonna attract the cream of the crop.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:41 PM
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Agreed!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:34 PM
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haha ... :cry:
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:45 AM
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One hundred percent agree with you OP. People don't like thinking of love as transactional, because of course, it hurts their feeling, and their idea that their relationship is "special" and their partner is the One. People like believing in destinity for a reason, it's romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:23 AM
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Because in the media, and everywhere else, love is sold as "non-transactional". People bashes on gold diggers, on people marrying for improving their social situation etc... and will usually say "ah but you should go for true love, in stead of money".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:22 AM
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Same, and in retrospect it was mostly "infuation". Just me having a built a perfect image of who she was, of our future, rather than knowing who she really was - that plus her being very physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:20 AM
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Without the hormone there is no romantic love. If you find them ugly at the beginning there is no romantic love. Even later, 10 years later there might be a strong friendship, but its closer to kinship due to years spent together, rather than a strong romantic love (unless they are still physically attracted to each other).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:17 AM
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Exactly. Usually and primarily induced by strong physical attraction, which you think may be reciprocated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:15 AM
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An average american income goes way further in Europe than in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:07 AM
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But often what you have, is who you are. I mean, the only thing that's "internal" is your moral compass and your values to a certain degree. But, let's be real, someone can have a great moral compass - if you don't like how they look or find them ugly looking, you won't fuck them. Let's be real, if someone has a great moral compass, great values that aligns with yours, but they are in debt or quite poor, and you want to raise a family... they also won't be your first choice for a relationship. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:04 AM
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It is a brutal but fair opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:00 PM
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I totally agree with you. But the true blackpill is simply the acknowledgement of evolutionary biology, and that there is little "magic" to romance, that attraction can be predicted mostly by physical features. And that little can be done by an individual to change it (short of surgeries, which can work for some, but not for all). This is the true blackpill. Beauty is simply a proxy for health, we are attracted to beautiful features and people for this reason alone. But being cognizant of it is …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:37 PM
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Of course, but the impact of being delusioned when reaching adulthood can not be under-estimated. And as the guy said above, it's perfectly normal, once your world view collide with the reality you experience to seek answers, and those are simply provided through the blackpill or the redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:35 PM
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Yep, this guy clearly shows a great lack of empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:28 PM
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Your parents are never going to tell you "my son you are not good looking, please be preapred to struggle with dating because of that", instead they will say "have a good job, focus on your studies, you will find someone, there is someone out there for you don't worry", or "there is no issues with how you look".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:27 PM
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The talk about "immutable traits" is more about blackpill than redpill. (I have nothing against it, I am blackpilled).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:22 PM
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It may be. But at the time they became red-pilled they were most probably their girl second-choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:13 PM
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Not listening your parent on something inconsequential is fine. If you don't see the difference, you clearly have a problem. I wouldn't be mad at my kid or emotionally hurt long-term for something so irrelevant. If they make a random party at my house, despite me telling them not to, and ruining my place...then yes I would be MAD. But then again, it's a shitty behaviour from the kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:27 PM
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I don't disagree. But let's stop the cope about uglies having a chance, and people not placing looks at the highest criterias when coming to sexual relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 12:50 PM
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This is totally dumb... I'm actually not sure to understand the analogy. When you lend your friend your Xbox, you are not hurting your parents. When you steal you fuck your friend's girlfriend, you are actively harming your friend and causing him anguish.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 12:46 PM
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Also, bro. You are basically advocating the "Oh if he left the door of his appartment open, I am not in the wrong to go in and rob him".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:30 AM
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The real problem is always that the guy is ugly, right. Not that she doesn't know him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:20 AM
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oops, I don't know why I went on to talking about this. Probably because of some of the other comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 06:50 PM
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You are never the better option, no matter what you do, there is always a better option out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 06:49 PM
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Uhhh. What about all the couples that would have stayed together if a third wheel didn't come between them? I think it's the exact definition of a home wrecker. Whether or not there was cracks mean nothing. I don't necessarily disagree with you, that if you look at things realistically, you gotta do what you gotta do. At the end of day, life is a brutal competition thing, and so is reproduction. But from an ethical point of view, it's first of all, not great to "steal" someone away from someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:07 PM
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I didn't say there are no women that would not date him. I said in comparison to a hot girl flat-chested girl, he would be way less popular with the opposite gender. I agree with you that having a micro-penis is a disability, and not really comparable to being A-cup girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 01:15 PM
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In other words if you have other really good things/features going for you, you don't need to care about one bad thing/features. Uhhh, what a news! :roll_his_eyes: Also being flat-chested, isn't the same as having a micro-penis. Most guy will still happily bang and date a hot gal with A-cup. For some reason, I don't think the same isn't true of a hot with a micro-pennis.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:42 PM
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How the fuck would that happen? Everyone is now "equal"? This will never happen. Unless some kind of AI overlord takes over, and even, I'm not sure it would discard a hierarchical structure. I mean, it's nice to dream....but being delulu has its limits.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:14 PM
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It requires work under a scalpel and in the gym. And probably fixing their money problem if they have some. Sometimes even work won't help, but that's pretty rare. Although not impossible. In which case my prescription is not playing the game and use alternative tools/venue to get what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:12 PM
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This is bullshit. You are not a below average man physically speaking, so you talk out of your ass. But thanks for your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:10 PM
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yep
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:09 PM
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This idea of "soul mate" is extremely childish. Albeit romantic, I'll concede.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 06:20 PM
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yeah but most girls will give you a chance to date. When you have plenty of options "a crush" rejection doesn't matter that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 05:46 PM
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It's more like it's can be very "easy money". Example: a Russian girl who could have a job and survive in Russia, albeit would have to work years to see her plans come to fruition, could just decide to work a month in Paris and clear 15ke (nets, untaxed). Which would be the equivalent of 2 years of saving for them. For a portion of those women, its not financial despair per se. But more like it's just very easy money and they can kickstart their plans (travel, moving away, studies etc...) But at…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 10:44 AM
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"""" I've seen him retweet and talk about how men's value grows as they age while women's values decrease which I find depressing he thinks my value as human being declines with age. """ Don't misunderstand things: value ON THE DATING market of someone, is different from his/her "value" as a human being. It has nothing to do with each other. And saying that women's value on the dating market decrease with age is NOT wrong. You will attract less partners as you are past a certain age, it would be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 10:13 PM
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Not bad, I mean in my opinion there are only three categories as I said waste workers, sex workers (ie. you would rather NOT tell people about) normal jobs (office workers, trade professions, personal trainer would be here) prestigious jobs you can brag about (lawyer, doctor, surgeon, politician)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 07:26 PM
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Uhhhhh. Yeah, sorry that we don't live in a disney movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 06:36 PM
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Uhhh. I mean, are you living in a different world? As individuals, I'm not looking down on them or anything. But there is a clear structure to our society, in terms of what's "respectable" : waste collectors, sex workers < menial jobs, desk jobs < doctor, surgeons, lawyers, politicians. I'm pretty sure you would more "proud" to say to your parent you are dating a surgeon than telling them you are dating a waste collector, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:49 AM
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I don't believe most feminist would seriously consider waste collectors as their "dream partner".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:56 PM
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Being a garbage man is different lol. It's basically the bottom of the society. Any other job is fine if you have pretty face, trade jobs, desk jobs, whatever. But a waste collector is of course a no-go for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 03:16 PM
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I would only procreate either naturally with a good looking woman, or through surrogacy with eggs of a good looking and tall one with no genetic defects, enhancing chances for my children to be attractive as much as possible. And I would consider the risk of them coming out ugly or ill to be fairly negligeable at that point. Besides, I'm only intending to have ones when I have enough money to FIRE (or when I am very close to it). As far as I am concerned if you are born rich + good looking + wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 08:23 AM
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Nop For a 4/10 (not so good looking, 5'9 - ) to compete with 8/10 (good looking, 6'2 +), the first guy would need to be a decamillionaire or way more. And even then, second guy would pull way way more on dating apps (and he would pull girls that actually want to fuck him, rather than seeing him as a meal ticket/SD).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 10:38 AM
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I'm a bit taller than you, but still below average in height where I live, and I came to the same conclusion as you did. At the worst if I want children later, I would use surrogacy with a tall egg donor (5'10/5'11+).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 10:36 AM
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We may not have the same definition of "obsessing". Anyway, how are you feeling now? Is it still a good time? And are you happy with never having gotten with a woman? And knowing that you will probably never will? (past is usually a good indicator of the future, for individuals, although not always).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:35 PM
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Why are you telling I'm dork when I'm just you a question? Sounds like you are the one who is the dork. Anyway my "Why" question was valid, albeit a bit unexplicit. I was commenting on "Because that's a much more level playing field than moving to a poor country so your automatically seen as rich." And what I meant was "Why is it a much more level playing field?". Anyway, coming to your answer now. """ No one deserves anything but good looks are actually innate and a accurate measure of sex appe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:56 PM
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Once again, are you one of them? Because if you are not, you can't speak for them. You don't know of their struggle, their obssessions. As if they would share their most intimate thoughts with someone who can't relate. I didn't and I doubt most would. But yes, I was undoubtly weak at the time because of this, and of other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:50 PM
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You haven't really answered and side-stepped what I said. Do you deserve your "good looks"? How is being "good looking" more moral or fair than being "rich"? """ Because that's a much more level playing field than moving to a poor country so your automatically seen as rich. """ Why? Explain to me please.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:48 PM
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I mean, I don't disagree with you. Marrying a girl after a few weeks only, or even you months, it's just a lot of risks you expose yourself to. Financial risk to begin with. Some people are just too inexperienced/too horny/too idealistic (possibly all of them together) to think things through.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:43 PM
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Note, that I disagree with the "pussy is not in top 10" of things in life. Having a family / a wife is easily one of the top "life goal" for most men on earth. I mean, it's the milestone than defines most men as grown-up. Having your very own family is a unique experience, which can not be easily discarded. I agree however that there are things that can come close, and you can have passion, and stay alone for the rest of your life and still be happy. But needless to say, it's not for everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:37 PM
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Not getting pussy often and not getting pussy at all are two concepts. I mean, I agree with you. But only because I quenched my "thirst" and got pussy ( If I may say so). But before then, I was obsessed by it. I mean, it's so typically human, to chase after / want the things you can't get. Therefore I can understand them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:31 PM
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Nop. Why do you attach more morality to looks over money? Why is it more moral for people to use their looks/dna to be able to get pussy? There is nothing moral about getting a mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:25 PM
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Why? What's difference between "looks leverage" and "money leverage"? At the end of the day it's a market. One is not more "noble" than the other. I don't get why people attach more moral ground to DNA than money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:23 PM
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Pussy / companionship is an important part of life. It's easy to say that it's not important when you have it in abundance, or at least when it's not such a struggle for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:20 PM
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It's not that they are weird, but that their smv is lower than their girl. And once there is no strong financial insentive for the girl to play nice anymore, or she has other better options (in looks, or money), than she will of course start to cheat. Previsible. It's just human nature, most people are selfish to a degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:17 PM
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How is just reading the title an "inapproriate" conduct? Seems harsh. Also, the question does stand on its own even without the additional context of the corpus.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:24 PM
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Crimes would reduce, but they wouldn't go away. Power and money are not inherently amasssed only for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:53 PM
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The difference is that even the weakest man is intelligent enough to plot and kill the strongest man alive during his sleep using some kind of weapon (let's say a sharp stone). The "alpha" hierarchy based on physical characteristic only worked before because the species that followed it were not intelligent enough to : use weapons or do some elaborate plotting. So, by virtue of "strength" alone no man could enjoy all resources. That's why kingdoms with duchies and nobles were created. To spread …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:25 PM
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civilization only works because everyone gets to have a share of something (men nowadays still have hope of attracting a mate, of having a decent lifestyle etc...). When there is no hope (desert island or some other apocalyptic scenario with constrained resources), the worst of mankind would become common sight.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:19 PM
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You would probably be traded around. Even a strong male alone is not enough to overpower several grown men by himself simulatenously. So him keeping the only female on the island for himself would probably not happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:47 PM
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Yeah, but the truth is liberating. Pros and cons everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:02 AM
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I doubt 500 pound landwhales are being simped by athletic guys (at least not tall athletic guys, or handsome athletic guys)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:00 AM
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Yep. As you say it's also unfortunate for the men who don't meet bar, by no fault of their own. Just because of their dna. But it is how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:57 AM
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It's not a heart, it's the brain. Since everything is visual. Let's stop romanticizing things which inherently are not. It's all about hormones, physical features, and neural nets that are specifically made to detect healthy mates. :shrug:
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:55 AM
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As we say: "Only a fool can be happy". (I'm not denigrating blue-collar jobs, but indeed, there is a lot of information on the internet, and sadly sometimes knowing too much, can make you fall into a rabbit hole, even if it's the truth).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:58 PM
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Obseneleny beautiful women, as you, only compare themselves to other extremely beautiful women. Their standard of beauty are on a different level from the mass.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 01:59 AM
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People don't want acknowledge that looks > personality, it seems to rub them off the wrong way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 01:56 AM
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Still, I would trade being ugly for being attractive any day of the week.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 01:53 AM
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But once again, it all depends on how hot the girl in question is. We all tend to make compromise for people we really find physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 06:49 PM
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yep
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 06:41 PM
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I think for women who have this problem, they just aren't as beautiful as they think they are. Often it's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 06:38 PM
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Where was it said that he was entitled to her from his action? OP is just underlying the fact that personality and actions matter very little in front of biological imperative, and that only outsized amount of success and wealth can tip the balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 03:57 PM
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Uhh? I doubt bluepill was ever talking about the concept of leagues from a purely physical standpoint (which is what looksmatch is about). In any case, nowadays, "looksmatch" is central to the blackpill ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 11:32 PM
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How can you be bluepilled if you acknowledge the concept of "looksmatch" ? What you are saying in your post is closer to blackpill than anything else... (I'm blackpilled and it's funny how often people don't realise they are actually blackpilled as well)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 04:25 PM
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Blackpill = people will treat you differently depending on how you look. And an ugly looking guy can never ever compete with a handsome fellow. Blackpill = personality matters, but only after looks. And without looks, personality doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:40 PM
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But your beliefs seem closer to blackpill than bluepill.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:13 AM
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I didn't say it was kind or polite, it just is an accurate description of the reality. You can't force everybody to sugar coat their word? That's what would be delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 09:56 AM
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How is saying "hit the wall" being a dick about it? I think it's a fairly accurate representation of losing a sizeable amount of options after a certain threshold is reached.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 06:37 PM
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Oof
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 11:00 PM
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I agree with you, unfortunately some people have two choices, realistically: 1) Settle 2) Stay alone forever Not everyone is attractive enough to land someone they are attracted to in their lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:57 PM
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I think the "just-world fallacy" applies to this perfectly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis Would explain as well why blue pillers are blue pillers, they don't want to believe the world is actually not "fair" because acknowledging that would torment them and their higher moral standpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:39 PM
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You are deluding yourself if you seriously believe a hot dude couldn't pull that or more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 09:21 AM
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Not nowadays though, you just can use surrogacy if you really want children - long run it's much less costly than a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 09:01 AM
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When you are rated as 8/10, you should read it as, "Women believe I'm a 8/10" - what they believe is gonna be your dating reality. You believing that you are 8/10 doesn't make it true. I mean, it's like going to an ice-skatting contest, and telling the judges "no, you can't give me 7/10, I deserve 10/10 !!".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:47 AM
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Whatever helps you sleep at night. At the end of the day, everyone can have their own preferences. Who told you she choosed you *just* for being a certain ethnicity, and it wasn't one of her many criterias?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 09:00 PM
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" I broke up with a woman last year because she revealed that was obsessed with my race and fantasized about having mixed kids. I didn't get an ego boost, it wasn't satisfying. Hearing her weird ass proclivities was devastating because I was in love with her. It clearly wasn't reciprocated the same way. " What's wrong with fantasizing about one's race? Are you of those that really believe looks don't matter? :roll_eyes:
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 07:14 PM
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Attractive men get to do the ghosting as well, hence by your words, "substracting" validation. It's the same for both gender. The most (physically) attractive people have it better, nothing new (except for blue pilled people).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:39 AM
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Losers = guys who can't get a girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:01 AM
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"I know TRP likes to pretend there's an algorithm that will get all women but spark and chemistry are unquantifiable (at least with available science) and that is what is lacking. If it's picky to not date someone you don't want to sleep with then, sure I guess I'm picky." You must not have been reading on much science to say that. There will be of course some degree of "randomness" from person to person, but for most people spark/chemistry/sexual tension is almost exclusively related to physica…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 07:39 PM
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He must lack some other dimorphimic features (voice, shoulder broadness etc..), and you must be quite picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 06:18 PM
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Then what's the difference between a No and Fuck No? You haven't answered in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:18 AM
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Depends. Some people can move from "yes" to "fuck no". So the only difference between a "no" and a "fuck no", is a that yes can move to only "fuck no"? A yes can not became a "no"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:33 PM
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It doesn't matter. The goal isn't to please most women. If you some average to below average looking guy, in any case you would not match with top tier looking women. So you might as well increase chances of punching above your league artificially.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 09:28 AM
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I never it said it would, the only thing that can lead to physical attraction is physical attraction, if you are not hot, not matter what you do you won't be, personality doesn't matter either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 09:26 AM
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I agree there are women that will want money in any case, but for some if your lifestyle is way way above average (something that noticeable when being in the mid 8 digit range NW) women will hang with your for free. Hot gold diggers aiming for the final goal (marriage). As for being labelled as a douche bag - yes you will labelled as a douchebag by some, maybe a lot, but you will attract some fish in the end still.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 09:24 AM
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Well there you have your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 11:19 PM
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Yeah I guess so. The SMV boost is probably a lot smaller than I initially claimed. But to be fair it's effect are mostly seen if you dated below your socio-economic class (for example a bartender girl or starbuck girl would probably swoon over a not too bad looking, average height lawyer/doctor).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 11:01 PM
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Very well put. Unfortunately, as an unfortunate looking guy, this place of abudance is quite far and difficult to reach. Not everyone can become a billionaire or even simply a decamillionaire. And honestly below decamillionaire, unless you are moving to a third world country, your wealth would not allow you to have an "abundance" mindset, and you would probably end up unhappy at the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 10:57 PM
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I'm unfortunate looking, and I agree with you :) A while ago, I acknowled this truth, and it freed me. Love and romantic relationships are nothing specials at the end of the day if there are conditionals on a few millimeters or centimeters of bone. Everything dictated by strands of DNA. There is no "magic" to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 10:48 PM
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Have a lifestyle they can be proud of and show off to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 10:44 PM
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Lawyer, doctor, surgeon etc... are the kind of jobs that can indeed give you a good SMV boost thanks to the status halo.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 10:41 PM
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People love to brag, not just women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 10:39 PM
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Right, but at least you get into a relationship with a hottie, potentially have kids, and not stay alone. Better than nothing :shrug:
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 10:39 PM
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Show off your 5 sport cars on tinder (say "I love racing!" on the photos), and come back to tell me you aren't getting dates with hotties.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 10:35 PM
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The deadbedroom consideration is an important one, but at the end of the day, if you are a very rich guy (not simply "rich"), you have a lot of options, so if it goes in that direction just say "bye bye" and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 10:34 PM
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If you have an extravagant lifestyle, you can absolutely use your money to date out of your league : if you live in a beautiful penthouse in NY or in Paris, if you have a few sport cars, post photos on those on tinder and come back to tell me your number of likes didn't increase by x10. I mean at the end of the day, women will still be with you because of the money, but yes a looot of the money can attract even if it doesn't exchange hand directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 10:30 PM
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Once you have been a relationship with someone making you feel miserable, and you have had the opportunity to reflect on it, then it's much easier to appreciate being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 07:41 PM
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Exactly (I was writing that before reading your comment)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 12:56 AM
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exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 11:44 AM
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Great take! I would argue money can help jump league however. The money however must be made apparent, the lifestyle must be apparent. And the only way for money to be apparent in the US/Western Europe is to have a networth of high 7 digits at the very minimum. (basically enough to Fatfire).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 11:31 AM
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Having "one" sugar daddy also exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 11:23 AM
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Agreed - I also think the new "wealthy" is starting at Decamillionaire nowdays.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 11:17 AM
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There is threshold above which it money helps. The treshold after which your wealth is completely apparent. I would say being a decamillionaire can bump significantly your league. If you can show off your 2-3 sports cars, good chances you will get a lot more matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 11:14 AM
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If you are hot it doesn't matter what your socio-economic status is, you will smash :) If you are broke, but not hot - that's where it becomes tough. IMO : hot & rich > average & rich > ugly & very rich > hot & broke > ugly & rich > average & broke > ugly & broke
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:07 PM
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Your understanding is wrong. Blackpill != woman are evil Blackpill = looks are everything (or almost). If you are an incel, meaning you can't a date for the life of you, or your advances were never reciprocated => you are very probably just ugly, and it's not your fault. Blackpill is just there to protect us poor souls from the otherwise gasligthing we would receive ("oh it must be you personality"). That's first part of the blackpill, that if you are ugly , good luck. The second part of the bla…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:52 PM
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I'm obviously talking about physical appearance. And yes someone who looks good enough to be in modelling agencies (tall, beautiful) has superior genetics. Someone that everybody wants to have sex with has superior genetics. Behaviour is mostly learned.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:11 PM
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Ah. You just don't see them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:00 PM
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If you are attractive, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:58 PM
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Yeah, well, for me it is. Relationships can take many forms. And I'm pretty sure opening a dictionnary will simply confirm what I'm saying ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:10 PM
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No we are not all monsters when we are living in a system that makes it hard to do the right thing in regard to basic necessities. Here is a novel idea for you: Sex, skin contact and human touch with the opposite sex is actually a basic necessity of life for humans (at least it is, if you consider having shoes as a basic necessity). And sadly many men (and maybe women) can not get that nowadays, because the "system" made it so. Gross yourself! I'm not saying I'm a saint, but I'm saying you are n…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 12:09 PM
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But still, you are a buyer, a consumer of the many "industries" that exploit them though? People buy prostitutes' services, just like you buy the services and goods provided by many, many unfortunate people in third world countries. How does that make you any different? Why do you perceive yourself as having a superior moral compass? Also, what about the men date? Do they also buy only second hand furnitures? Do they grow their own fruits? Because if they don't, you are dating monsters, exploite…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 11:49 AM
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Providing a "lifestyle" upgrade that would attract a hot, educated woman with a good career, require being a decamillionaire in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 11:02 AM
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I would love the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 11:00 AM
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Try being short, bald, neotenous looking :) Clothes don't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:59 AM
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What is the definition of a "real" relationship, pretty please? DNA-only attraction/exchange ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:57 AM
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Superior genetics for your children - but at that point I guess you might as well consider surrogacy + eggs donor too (which is a fair option, all in all).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:57 AM
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What about all the products that end up in your plate - I'm pretty sure, half of them or more have dark stories of exploitation, of tears and pain behind them. Same with your clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:54 AM
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If you are ugly, you are ugly. No need to waste your time hoping to find a unicorn :)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:52 AM
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Did I said you did? I said " 'if' you view it", meaning, I was offering a potential explanation, I never claimed anything. Yep, that's a service. And services are paid, I'm fine with that. But to be fair everyone pays one or another, some with their beauty, some with their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:34 PM
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You sound very mono-dimensional. What is sex? Who said sex should be anything, who said it had be mutually enjoyable? I'm plenty sure there are species in the natural world which don't "enjoy" sex but do it for a variety of reasons (read, other bio-mechanisms). Anyway, in our particular case two parties who partake in sex decide what they want, and a third wheel like you shouldn't be judging the decision of two consenting adult who know what they are doing? (A sex worker completly forced into th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 08:41 PM
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The sex is consensual, even when paid for. I'm not forcing her to take my money at gun point. You should review the definition of consensual. You are making it sound like it's more noble to have sex with someone because of their DNA (physical attraction), than for money. I beg to differ. There is nothing noble about it in any case. It's an exchange, yeah, I can't exchange raw attraction, because I don't have the DNA for it. But I make it up with money, and I'm plently cognizant of it, cognizant …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:49 PM
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Bullshit :) "would use another persons body for their sole pleasure" : mehhhhhhhhhhhh, as if all the people who hooks up really care about their mutual pleasure. 🙄 Anyway, it's easy to be judgmental when you come from a place of privilege. It's very simple, quite often people who resorts to prostitution have no alternative, often for no fault of their own. If they were able to hit it on tinder, trust me they would use it. But we are not yet in control of genetics, so things are how they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:36 PM
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You don't need a networth of 100s of millions to use your money for this. 5M NW is enough to main one or two, hot, model looking young women (sugar babies). Which is achievable by 60 if you saved all your life and you have an above average white collar job in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:54 PM
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Even if you need children, you can use surrogacy/egg donor to do that. And you get to have top of the line dna quality for your future children as well :shrug: Honestly would love to see services catered towards helping single dads / people wanting to become single dad, and helping them navigate the initial struggle with all that. Might be a big thing in the future. Feels a bit scary to raise a child alone, but we are starting to have plenty of example of men doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:52 PM
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Usually it's because there was some kind of investments (emotional, financial) in the relationship, and men will try convince themselves that this can't be reason 1) or 2). Coming up with bullshit excuses not to succumb mentally "oh maybe she is really tired... maybe she isn't really feeling well those days" etc... Emotional investment can be having kids, knowing each other family quite well, etc... Financial can be marriage, having given her rather expensive gifts... etc. Basicaly sunken cost f…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:46 PM
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Agreed, and it should be fair to dump someone for having an unfilfilled sex life. Nowadays we still feel like leaving a relationship because of lack sex is a "shallow" reason. Lots of men will talk themselves out of it. Try to be "patient" blablabla, expecting things to get better blablabla. Also, another part of the equation, is that quite often (but not always) people who rage about getting told "no" are those who feel they don't have (better) options. As simple as that. Someone who has option…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:39 PM
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I think having sex 5 times per months is a minimum, below that there is simply something wrong with the relationship (or with your health). Also when you reject someone you should be definitely be the one initiating after.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:34 PM
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You sound dumb. Also, it has nothing to do with "player" or "nice guy". It has do with the degree of hotness of the guy, as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:48 PM
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How is it more ethical to be discriminated based off your appearance than using money as a mean to compensate for that? People involved are consenting adults, and passport bro do not make the women involved life more difficult or worse - if they did, they would not get with the gals to begin with. Honestly don't see what's wrong with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:20 PM
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Yes, they will laugh at you, and still tell you with a straight face "oh but personality is what matters the most, and if you are not getting laid it's probably because of that".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:49 AM
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If they are inviting you to their place and not to a restaurant/coffee shop to have date, they are not serious about you, as simple as that.
/r/RedPillWomen18/02/24 01:07 AM
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The blue pill basically tells you personality > hot and you can get anyone if you are lucky, and that leagues doesn't exist...which all people with a minimum of life experience (and who are not hot themselves) will know it's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:57 PM
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It's not about the Western countries giving them too much power, it's about the sexual market being completely different - once you go back with her to your country, you will be competing with local men from a rich country. You won't be 10X time richer than the average male, like you were in her country, you won't have a particularly "niche" physical appearance like you had in her country. That's why bringing back a girl as a passport bro is dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:30 AM
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You can't force someone to want you. Maybe you could solve this whole issue if you developed nanochips to override sexual desire based on physical characterics, but otherwise this is a pipe dream. Life isn't fair and never will be -> 100% In 1000 years from now (if we are not extinct) there will still be a hierarchy, leaders and followers... just as it was 1000 years ago, 10000 years ago. Unless we somehow get to have an AI overlord ruling us all. In that case, it will be "fair". There will alwa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:10 AM
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Whatever you say bro, I'm in the 4/10 category (not millionaire on my way there in the next few years) - I have come to the conclusion that I shouldn't be taking things personally, I was dealt bad cards in life, so be it. I'm totally fine with using money/lifestyle to attract a girl, I mean this is just a "modern" tool to use. I know I will not elicit true raw sexual desire from a beautiful woman, and I am fine with that - it's evolution at play. As long as she treats me right, I don't really ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:05 AM
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I'm a blackpiller, and I agree with the title. Most blackpillers also acknowledge the fact that normies have overall no problem getting into relationships (albeit it's a bit harder than for Chads). We are however very aware that dating become a problem when you are in the bottom 10-20% of the barrel.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 11:58 PM
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black pill doesn't say "all women will find Chad attractive", it says "most women will find Chad attractive". And as a matter of fact yes, there are tons of studies that shows attractiveness is objective, not subjective, and if a women find a guy highly physically appealing, there are good chances the woman next to her will also share the same view. What does Chad look like in practice? 6"+, broad shoulders, not balding, good jaw, symmetrical face, wide smile/lips. That is the recipe for a conve…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:57 PM
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Amen, the harsh but real truth :)
/r/RedPillWomen06/02/24 05:03 PM
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yes but it's an extremely good proxy for "value" in the real world. If something is not sought after by others, then it's probably not valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 10:36 AM
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Probably the case
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:32 PM
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Honestly I disagree, if you are born as an average to above average looking guy, and you get yourself an average to above average career, you should be doing just fine. Usually people who struggle have something that's holding them back (that, or their standards are too high for what they have to offer, in which case I would advise to either increase their SVM, or go to a market where their SVM is higher like in 3rd world countries).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:32 PM
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Love your comment! Let's keep some empathy though, it's understandable that initially when you realise the world is not the fairy tale, and it can be fucking unfair or even gruesome out there, you might become depressed a bit (or a lot). But I agree, that one should just strive to the best of their ability, to live the most fulfiling life that they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:23 PM
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A bit extreme in the way you said it, but I roughly agree with the spirit ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:16 PM
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We want to have what we "can't" have, it's very much human.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:13 PM
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Unless you are <5'7, provided you have a lot of money, you can beta bux + do plastic surgery to increase your smv + get shreded at the gym, you should be able to lock at least an average looking girl. If you don't have a lot money, well that's one thing to work on (if you still care about landing an (attractive) partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:09 PM
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Amen!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:03 PM
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Sounds weird, if you were good looking + 6'5, you would have dozens of matches (or more) a day on tinder. You wouldn't lack the opportunity to meet a gal. So either try that, or if you tried that but it didn't work out, you are probably not that good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:03 PM
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I believe this was induced by the poll itself. If he had put a 6'2 option, it would have probably induced more women to ask for a minimum 6' height as it would have seemed more reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:42 AM
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There I'm changing it for you - Most people in relationships just happened to meet each other, find each other physically attractive, and vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 07:48 PM
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Being wealthy certainly can "buy" you a woman, and a pretty one at that. But beyond, I think it's personal preference. I am not wealthy, but I make quite good money for my age/location (110ke, after tax, in Europe). I was never a good looking guy, (I am balding and short, things on which I have zero control), never had much success with dating , but last year I did indulge myself with sugar dating ... but after meeting half a dozen chick, talking with probably a hundreds of them ... some of bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 02:40 AM
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Depends, you can't really compare a single dad who is wealthy and wanted to become a parent with a single mom living in poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 06:58 PM
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You know your stuff. However, you got something wrong. (actually several things). We don't believe it's all women. However we do believe the rules you described hold true for a majority of women. Also : Believes most women are inherently solipsistic - Hmm, yes. But true blackpillers understand that this is no different for men. Looks matter for both women and men, and they can be selfish about it, if only subconsciously. Men with options most of the time won't commit to girls they don't find rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 05:11 PM
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The "Looks" part you are refering to is more related to the blackpill than the redpill. Blackpill is about the fact unchangeable traits (without surgery) of your looks matter much more than things you can change - ie. a skinny, handsome, tall guy has a much higher smv than a normal looking, short/average height guy, but jacked guy. So one aspect of the blackpill : Unchangeable traits >> Changeable traits Also blackpill basically says that Looks >> status or money ... while the redpill makes aver…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 04:51 PM
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It very much depends of the level of satisfaction you have with your current partner. If I have been with a "8" girlfriend for several years, have my life path kind of setup with her, why would I want to mess that up? On the other hand, if I'm with someone I kind of settled for, so <7, then yeah I might probably try monkey branching. But to be honest, I would prefer staying alone than settling in the first place, life can be great even as a single guy, when you have a good career, make good mone…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 01:04 AM
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You just have to be rich enough for this to not happen till she is 50, after that, regardless, it wouldn't matter :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 10:14 PM
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Judgmental. Those guys (I'm among those) are not going for 10/10 only, duh. "Pretty girls" in general are above average (so it starts at 6< ), but if you are below average as a guy, it means your dating market does not naturally intersect with this category of women - bummer - you can only go for girls you don't really find physically attractive, in other words you can only settle. Or, you can do like the gentleman above suggested, which is using "modern tools" to increase your reproductive fitn…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 10:11 PM
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For me how I see it is simple: if you are a below average guy (say <5'9, not particularly good looking), you must make x4 times the median salary to compete with an average looking guy on the dating market. At 10X the median salary of your country you have the dating power of an above average guy. 20X and you have the dating power of Chad (aka you can find literal models willing to settle down with you, it will probably be costly but you can afford it - don't forget a good prenup and not seeing …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 09:58 PM
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Running a company (aka being CEO, or C-suite exec) is not what I qualify to be slightly better than the average LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 09:51 PM
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Aw. Apologies, just read diagonally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 08:09 AM
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https://www.theverge.com/2017/4/25/15421734/artificial-womb-fetus-biobag-uterus-lamb-sheep-birth-premie-preterm-infant ​ Therefore, I don't think an artificial womb for humans is a pipe dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 08:02 AM
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Blue pill - checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 02:12 PM
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"delulu" I love this word haha
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:31 AM
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You are right. Blue pilled + sunken cost fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:28 AM
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She knows and she doesn't give a shit. People can be insanely selfish if they believe there will be no repercussion from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:25 AM
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It's sunken cost fallacy. To protect his mental health, he has to make himself believe that he didn't drop tons of money on someone who doesn't give shit about him. That's why he acted cold and hot. He realised he played himself, but couldn't accept the reality so he gave it another try. It happened to me a few years ago, albeit with much less money. In the end all of this stem from lack of options, experience, and idealizing someone. No guys with options will simp, and therefore put himself in …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:23 AM
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Don't forget about never to bring them home unless you have had kids with them (will lower by a lot the chance of them dumping you ... and if they do, well you have beautiful kids at least). Ah, and don't marry or don't marry without prenup.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:56 AM
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It's soul crushing when you know every girl you are interested in romantically will never reprocicate you. As for traveling, once you have traveled quite a bit, it becomes boring and sad because you are all alone, and seeing those couples have cute dates wherever you go. The only way not to care sustainaibly about women and romantic relationships, is to have had enough, or to know that you have the options to get one whenever you want, or that you know you can make it happen with some effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:51 AM
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Extremely judgmental ;) As if being selected out of the gene pool is a choice. For the really ugly, the really short, no matter what your personality is like you are selected out of the gene pool, defacto ... regardless of what you do. Only thing that matters at that point is willing to burn money to increase your SMV or go the surrogacy way. But personally I think two ugly people should not reproduce. If you are ugly, you owe it your children to have at least an average looking partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:46 AM
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Do 2, or 3 home parternity tests, with different brands. Still a risk...but kinda low, I would assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:06 PM
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Exactly. Women will judge you for the truth. Just lie, like they would lie. Do not give them the respect they would give you. Atleast this way you are.on a level playing field. It's okay. Once you *know* for a fact the child is not yours, you can just lawyer up and force her to let you do a legal parternity test.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 05:44 PM
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Why would they go out of their way to have platonic relationship with you without being phyisically attracted to you? Are you special? What's your job? How tall are you? Otherwise what you are saying seem just implausible to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 06:51 PM
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This only happens in case of mis-matched "leagues".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 05:28 PM
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You are only objectifying her if she is hotter than you. If not, it's game-on and there are no rules :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:05 PM
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You are indeed above average. But if you go for above average women as well.. and a good physique/face is the only thing you have, you are of course going to struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 07:44 PM
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handsome, with a decent financial situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:08 AM
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I don't think you are above average then. (or you have some obvious personality issues).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 09:10 PM
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It depends on the age of the people involved, on whether the man is more attractive than the girl, or whether or not they have children already etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 03:09 PM
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The only people who have a fair shot at having a relationship with their "physical ideal", are people who are above average physically themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 09:33 PM
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This is absolutely well said. Nothing is for free and you have to put in some work. Become a boss of your own world, which is done by increasing confidence by getting shit done. Chicks don't generally care about the looks, if you are interesting enough. LMAO. Keep dreaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 09:57 AM
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Come on bro, how can you compare a 50yo to a 25yo man ? In terms of sexual attractiveness, it's not even close. The only advantage 50yo have is in terms of money...but at that point we are talking about sugar relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 01:50 PM
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exactly the conclusion I was coming to. To be fair you don't need be in the top 5%. But, I guess top 20%, yes. Anyway, this thought just reinforce my idea of playing at "eugenism" to get to have beautiful children, who will have the potential to live a fulfiling life in every aspect, and not be restrained whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 10:31 AM
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I agree. But then again, it depends on what you want in life. To be honest, the main reason I would be looking for someone is to have a family (a bunch of kids), as I think raising them alone would be hard. So being with someone who is not 100% into me in order to have kids, is a trade-off I would be willing to accept. (at least at the moment, to me, going through the process of finding a surrogate and being a single parent sounds difficult and very tiresome).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 08:33 PM
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I agree with that. But being "in love" is not necessary to have a happy life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 01:39 PM
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You grossly underestimate what it's like being physically below average. And for those below average people who want an option "better" than themselves or that they find attractive... well, they could have to wait a lifetime. Or more. Being a novelty, or exotic does increase your svm slightly (having blue eyes, being white) in those countries. Besides, moving there gives you financial leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:45 AM
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It's creepy when she isn't attracted to you. If she finds you hot, and actually wants you, then it's a different story of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:15 AM
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Yep, with 1M a year you should essentially be set and be able to date models even while being below average (sugar babies, but still). The great equaliser.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:20 AM
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It’s because of evolutionary biology and sexual selection. Women want manly, tall, masculine, strong, dominant, high status men. Duh. Alpha fucks/beta bucks, alpha seed/beta need, cads vs dads, R/k selection theory, call it what you want. But it’s blindingly obvious women across cultures that women are more attracted to a certain type of man. People fail to truly comprehend just how much of our behavior is shaped by evolutionary biology and sexual selection. Totally agree. To be fair it's also t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 01:18 PM
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Or consider egg donor/surrogacy. You can get eggs from models/athletes, guaranteeing your offsprings from being healthy, and more happy life than yours at the very list.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:46 AM
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Totally agree ! But BB doesn't necessarily mean being a step father. If you BB correctly, you can have biological children with a hot woman while being below average. Of course, it means not just being able to provide, but actually being rich/wealthy (top 1% or more). But I guess, at this point, money would be much better invested in surgeries to go from being a 3-4 in the woman eye to a 5-6s. And being really "acceptable".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:42 AM
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Agree ! BB doesn't mean accepting non biological children though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:35 AM
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Mostly agree with what you are saying except the step father thingy... Why the fuck do I have to raise someone else child if I decide to betabuck ? LOL If what you are essentially opting is the "gold digging" option (which you are opting for, which is totally fine ), you can absolutely find attractive women that will be okay to give you a child. (if you are rich enough).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:34 AM
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Fair fair. I think I got confused reading all the different threads. Totally agree that wealth != "physical attraction" (which, let's face it, is what attraction is mostly about ). Nonetheless, you could argue that in a sense it increase one's "datability" , since more people would want to date you (above a certain threshold of wealth ), which by extension mean you are more attractive to the opposite sex. I guess the term attractive is a bit overloaded here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 11:00 PM
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You are purposefuly ignoring the fact I pointed out there are research papers, randomized studies, etc... showing that those features matter a lot by themselves ;) ​ I'll recognize I'm a bit biased nonetheless. I guess, it's time for me to do some AI learning, spin up some Convolutional Neural Network and "extract" beauty from hundred of thousands of images taken from social networks. This way, the obective truth would emerge. Getting images of "beautiful" people wouldn't be hard, but finding an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 10:54 PM
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To be fair, you may not be attracted to money. But 90% women, would more than likely give a fair shot, to a guy they are not that attracted to, but who is loaded. (By loaded, I mean really loaded, like tens of millions + ).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 08:19 PM
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He values his time more He is 170cm / not that good looking, some even if he was not paying them, you would know why they are with him (aka. his money and lifestyle ). So there is no really difference between him giving them money directly, and him just using his lifestyle to tempt them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 08:06 PM
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I don't know him either. But to be fair, I don't know that many rappers, so if I did, he would have to be a pretty big deal and be very famous (like say, eminem, who has a networth of 300M+ ).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 08:03 PM
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Except attractiveness can’t be measured that way and there’s no way of knowing how much the respondents are influenced by unknown variables. Quantitative studies only look for what’s already known, meaning there could be loads of other factors involved that’re simply unknown 🤷‍♀️ There are a lot of studies on the subjects, if you are really curious. I won't waste my time arguing with you, I spent a lot of time looking at faces and bodies of models, of ugly people (hundreds of them), and my findi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:24 PM
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Oh ok. Still reminds me of that guy who sent $200k he stole from his family to some European cam girl, he ended up murdering his whole family. You don't understand that for the rapper we are talking here, 200k is nothing. Not the same as a poor guy spending his lifetime savings. My take is, if you have the money to make your life enjoyable, go for it. (by the way, this rapper is 170cm, and not very good looking, he wouldn't be banging models if not for the money :) )
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:10 PM
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Estimated networth 10M. With interest alone, he is racking 600k+ per year. (And his income is probably 1M+) 200k is simply nothing over several years to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:07 PM
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​ Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:04 PM
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Because the price tag offered is not high enough and the stigma is quite huge. I wouldn't do gay porn. But if someone came to me with a reasonable offer (1M+ and some discretion guaranteed ), I would probably accept.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:59 PM
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A spades a spade, she charged for sex. Lol, I'll bet you would reconsider real quick if someone gave you a 1M offer, for a one *discreet* night, no string attached without any chance of anyone finding out. Basically saving you several years of work, for what ? A night of penetrative sex. Sounds a good deal to me. (I'm not gay, and I have a well above average income, and I would still consider it ).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:56 PM
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Oooh well I’d think people that want to be left alone would seek out a friend with benefits arrangement. Or make it known it’s just a fling. Yep, except I'll bet you wouldn't be able to bang models left and right. And that's what money (lot of money) gets you :shrug:
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:42 PM
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Because those things are the main features that help classifying people in the good looking category (or ugly looking). When we speak/think of conventionally attractive men they tend to have a well defined jaw line, a good eye area (meaning no sclera show, no negative canthal tilt, no extreme upper eyelid exposure), have good/dense hair, are reasonably fit, and are reasonably tall. You can still be good looking / attractive to a lot of people if you one your feature is below average and the othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:30 PM
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A significant portion of blackpillers do, take a look at any looksmaxxing forum and you'll see what lengths they go to in order to improve their appearance. Real blackpillers don't any of this shit. The main focus, is hair (if you are balding) / jaw surgery / eye surgery / gym and for extreme cases leg lengthening. All the things that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:46 PM
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it Also saying looks can also attract women is not being blackpill because RP always has said looks are important but not the only thing which separates it from the Blackpill Blackpill doesn't say looks is the only thing LMAO. It simply says it's the most important thing and the first hurdle to overcome (ie. if the girl isn't attracted to you physically, then 99% of the time there is nothing to be done to change that, no personality, no shower, no "having your life in order" will help with that)…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:25 PM
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agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:27 PM
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Why are you so much against surgeries ? Are you afraid of it ? Do you feel it's "cheating" ? What about all those people who are handed a golden ticket in the dating market simply because of luck ? ​ In any case, you do you. While I respect your decision, there is small chance you can compensate lack of looks with only gym or finance (unless you somehow end up with several M$ and relocate to somewhere you can be considered as "wealthy", so at least upper middle class).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:56 PM
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Have you thought of accepting the blackpill ? If you have the money for it, and your base is not too bad - one or two surgeries could change your dating life (or the lack of it) altogether. The truth is your problem is most probably coming from looks. I'm willing to bet, you are probably below average looking or short. One or the other. ​ ​ <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:49 PM
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My two cents, no he won't commit and you can't make him change his mind. A guy who finds a girl he is really interested in, will commit to her immediately, whether or not he is an "alpha".
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/23 03:25 PM
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Guys don't have more muscles on their faces than women lol. So it would equally hurt. How would you like being slapped by a girl you are talking to, just because she needs to get your attention ?
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/23 03:16 PM
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I think OP is using the wrong words: it's not so much people having a price, as people having value. But his point remains. You yourself said you want an "equal" - which means you acknowledge you have a certain "value", and that you only want people with a similar market "value" (or more). This is still an exchange of value for value. Wanting that is nothing wrong in itself. Everyone wants the best they can get for themselves. But OP is pointing out rightly that this still means relationships ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:34 PM
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I roughly agreee with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:23 PM
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Why are you on PPD if you feel really "in love" right now. I really can't imagine for the life of me, why someone who is in love with their partner would spend their time here where most people hold a very cynic, and unromantic view on relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:22 PM
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When they have kids together yes. ​ Now add aging not so nicely (badling, getting fat) on top of unemployment, and I bet the number of people that would leave the other partner would go through the roof.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:19 PM
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her comments said it’s not all glitz and glam. However if you want to live a good regular lif If you dated a little you were not that unnatractive ^^
/r/RedPillWomen06/07/23 06:37 AM
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A high value man is a man high in demand and with women vying for his attention. If the only thing that you need to be high demand is a very handsome face - you are a HVM.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 03:19 PM
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A 5 is a plain looking girl. Just average. Given that a 10 is model-looking teritory, I think that yes, I would opt for the hedonistic way of life and go for a daily rush of dopamine everyday. But if the 5 is a 7, it's different already. It means, you can find her attractive when looking at her, and that makes all the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 09:15 PM
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Yes, and this is a niche. I did say "most clients". I am talking about the "sex market" as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:56 PM
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​ Not being attractive looking is what holds back most people. As an attractive, guy, you can mess up, 1 time, 2 time, 5 time with different women, at the end of the day - you will learn and correct your behaviour if you aren't dumb (sorry about that). An unnatractive guy can not change his prospect unless he is willing to change himself physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:54 PM
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Nop, most client of prostitutes want to fuck a hot/younger girl that they wouldn't be able to hook up with on Tinder, or get a match with on Bumble. As simple as that. Otherwise, who would want to pay for something they could get for free ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 09:15 AM
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Hey bro, let's be honest, if at 33yo you haven't been with any women - it's not because you are dumb, or that you haven't luck, or that your "destiny" will appear to you later. You are either too ugly, or your dating standards are too high. But yeah, you are probably just not attractive looking. At that point, you can just : 1) accept it, stay alone for the rest of your life 2) accept it, but still explore sex through paid options 3) accept it, but try doing surgeries to look a bit more attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 08:57 AM
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If they have had kids together it's fine. Plus I don't think guys have the same libido past 50yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:38 PM
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I would indeed always pick a 10 over 5, irrespective of what the 10 or 5 do in life and their intelligence. ​ But if you say 7 (still above average) with an interesting career / hobbies / personality, I would pick her anyday over a dumb 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:30 PM
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Even you do to a certain degree. You first are going to consider someone you consider visually attractive / appealing to you, and then if his personnality match yours and there is a meaningful connection it can build into something. But you are never going to give the time of day to someone that you don't find attractive. (I'm not talking about just "normal", I mean really someone that you really don't like looking at). And the looks the threshold / requirements are what you use the filter on 90…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:41 AM
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I check out 4 of those haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:38 AM
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I see what you mean. Yes a platonic friendship cannot be a source of sexual fullfillment. But consider the merits of have a social circle, which would increase the chances of meeting the right person. The friends of you friends will likely possess similair values to you, since they are, after all, a close compainion to people you are well familiar with. Studies have shown us that people of similair values can grant a healtheir relationship. As a direct consequence, friendships cannot solve sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:38 PM
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Do you feel that having solid friendships helps to lessen loneliness? Yes and no. It's very much a "starvation vs. malnutrition" kind of problem; someone who lacks protein but survives on carbohydrates alone has a better life than someone who doesn't get enough to eat at all, but at the same time, no amount of carbs will make up for a lack of protein. I do believe that romantic love and sexual attraction is fundamentally unique and irreplaceable. agreed ! It's an essential part of experiencing h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:35 PM
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I can feel from you a lot wisdom and experience. As an unattractive looking guy, I totally found/find myself in this mindless pattern of hedonisticity (I'm earning good money ) ...and exactly as you said I'm realising that what I really would be to find "love". However my own experience makes me resentful about not being handsome, because of all the rejections I encountered during highschool, university - wondering what was wrong with me. So I know that I would never wish on my children to be ug…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:45 PM
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You would be surprised
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:44 PM
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The key thing is, evolution is what drove human to bond and "fall in love". And evolution has yet to catch up with the fact we are no longer in a society where lifespan and the ability to protect offsprings are determined by height / bone density / special kind of bone structure suggesting good health. Which is exactly what people find attractive nowadays. Maybe in another 100 000 thousands of year things could change again ? (In any case, the attractivness issue shouldn't be around in a few cen…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:29 AM
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A kindred spirit. I have had this thought multiple times, and I have also posted a similar a post a few months ago. In the end we will all agree, as guy, we would prefer to be 1) because it gives much more leverage ... Also note that, it's extremly hard to get a girl significantly more attractive than yourself...because the truth is, if you know she is more attractive than you, chances are she knows it. Knowing she can do better. So unless the long-term financial security/compensation you are br…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:21 AM
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Unless you are really rich (in the tens of millions or more) money doesn't matter. Because the amount of money you will have to spent to maintain the hottie you are with will burn through your savings otherwise. The same girl that would simp for a 6'6 chad with a normal job.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:11 AM
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If you were just tallish, indeed, it wouldn't be much help versus a guy who is average looking but is GREAT at a lot of other stuff. If you were tallish + handsome, even back in the past, there is good chance the results would end up being the same (provided the girl really thinks he is pursuing her).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:26 PM
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I’ve heard this said many times: sex drive affecting the general pursuit of success for most men (i.e. more success leads to more sex) Some poor losers are born with lucky genetics. And that matters a lot more than any amount of money :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:04 PM
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In other words, you want a harem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:45 PM
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If you are also 6ft tall+ and decently looking, not surprising at all, I would say. But even, better to wait for the marriage / the kids before being able to cry victory.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:03 PM
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Man...sorry to break it to you ...but the confidence you are talking about has nothing to do with the confidence of being able to romantically attract a girl you are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:56 PM
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I reallly like this comment, my life experience resonnate so much with this ...ahah (in a kind of sad way).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:47 PM
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Completely agree with your post, there is an interesting article on wikipedia regarding "self-esteem" being simply a by-product of mate value (which is in the end simply related to attractivnes), see : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate\_value
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:38 PM
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This is an exceptional case. You are talking about Mike Tyson. Random joes on the street are not him. And you are probably not him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 09:36 PM
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Come on bro, an untrained 5'9 would be absolutely demolished by an untrained 6'6 dude. It is how it is. No need to whine about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 03:17 PM
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You can have children with surrogacy, if all fails. (Or adopt, but I feel in that case I would prefer staying on my own, lmao ).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 02:03 PM
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disclaimer : I'm not in a relationship whatsoever, never been married. But I would say communication is important. Be proactive, dress up sexy for him, be flirty for him, see if he begins reprocicating. Tell him it's important for you to feel he desires you and that there is romance.
/r/RedPillWomen10/04/23 07:41 PM
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Not ugly and short guys. If you are > 6" or 5"11, you can afford to be ugly. Otherwise you better be cute, because it's tough out there. End of the story. And yes, there are men who are < 5"11 and not good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 07:51 PM
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Very interesting. I have been half-tempted for a little while to create a topic on the subject of lust/money/prostitution/relationships etc... For example why is prostitution seen has something worse than hookups ? When the later is not any more "noble" than the first, as it basically just lust for each other because of our "dna".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 07:33 PM
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I don't think so. At that point other factors would start to matter more (ie. Wealth / Intelligence / Values / Shared interests ). Even now, if a girl had a choice between a chad that shared her values and was wealthy versus a "mega chad" that doesn't share much with her, I'm decently certain she would choose the first guy 10 times out of 10. Who wouldn't ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 09:17 PM
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Maybe they are a bit ugly, but I bet they are at least tall and with an impressive body (understand above the averge ). Some girls are alright with a ugly but 6"4 broad-shouldered boyfriend. Otherwise, I don't see why a hot girl, who could literally have anyone she wants would choose someone : ugly, short/average body, and not wealthy. I mean, people want the best for themselves, that's literally as simple as that. It's not magic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 08:34 AM
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lmao yes ! Add to that a nice jawline, and your every movement feel imbued with confidence and charisma.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 08:27 AM
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well said
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 08:16 AM
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In the end, the current state of the dating market is simply due to an inequality in genetics. If most people were handsome/beautiful, the dating market would be much much different. (PS : most people whinning here, or elsewhere are simply below average or barely average in looks. And are not okay to date down. It has most of the time nothing to do with lacking social skills. That's how it is. I am slightly below average myself. )
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 11:42 PM
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It's okay, at the worst I'll have surrogate children or adopt. Or I'll just resign myself and live alone in the countryside. We have so many options, don't despair people !
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 08:18 PM
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He is above average in terms of face.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 05:06 PM
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Nop, you only need to be attractive physically, all the rest is bonus, as long as your personality is decent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 10:11 PM
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Don't even try ? People who whine about it most definetely tried. ​ No one is saying women are evil. Men or women, deep down everyone shallow. I think people who understand this, and are vocal about this, are just trying to spread the truth :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 04:03 PM
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I guess it's about making sure everyone is aware of how shallow this is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 03:57 PM
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No, no, no. Guys that are struggling are simply ugly / below average average looking, or average looking with below average height. As for hygienne (not saying this is not important), going out, being shy, blablabla, that's non sense. I know a girl (and she is pretty pretty, not quite model territory but not far) that dated a handsome guy for months, that not only stayed in-door most of the time playing video games and did absolutely nothing with his life, but also cheated on her. The catch is, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 03:43 PM
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I agree. Just pointing out though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 11:25 AM
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There is cut-off for the rich (10M+ in USA/Western Europe) after which you are rich enough for your lifestyle to speak for itself, and it should become easy to get a girl once again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 09:36 PM
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Agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 08:50 PM
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It's just geographic arbitrage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 06:39 PM
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How would the 5/10 educated woman fare against a pretty 8/10 walmart girl ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 06:28 PM
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Although it may not seem like it, but "Love" is, deep down, an economic and very transactional game. We all hope for the best for our live, whatever that means for you (attractive looking partner, above average economic status) etc... And for that reason, moving abroad for men, is just a way to enhance their edge in this game, that's all. It can allows you to become above average in economic status, becoming more attractive because of your exotic ethnicity, or simply because males are less attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 11:47 PM
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Yeah, it just means you yourself are not physically attractive. Physically attractive guys, have zero problems getting physically attractive girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 03:58 PM
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In other words they believe in "randomness" ? In a perfectly "equal" world ? All intelligent people know there is no such a thing (I'm not one to be disdainful usually, but here I am).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 09:00 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 11:18 PM
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Well ... isn't the "subjectiveness" and "fluctuation" simply the variance you spoke of ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 10:23 PM
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Nop. Being ugly is an automatic disqualifier. I know several "Chads" who bang and get fwbs on tinder, despite being low income.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 03:48 PM
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I guess it depends, but I know that if you get a nice education it might make it more likely.
/r/RedPillWomen18/02/23 03:17 PM
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Interesting take.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 02:58 PM
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A) False. I won't argue much more than that, but we all know this is not true.Simply by virtue that all people will reach out for the best that they can get, if a girl can date a handsome guy with a good personality or an ugly/below-average guy with a good personality, well, 99 times out of 100 she will go for the handsome guy. There is nothing shameful in admitting that. (PS : by handsome, I also incorporate body attributes, if the guy is not "handsome", but is broad-shouldered and 6"3 he will …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 02:30 PM
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And yet, all seem to indicate it's real. How many times in high school, or in college, would you see the "hot" girl with an average looking or below average looking guy. (taking into account both face/height), not many times at all...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 11:37 AM
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I agree. Nobody owes you a damn thing. So you need compensate if you want to get what you want : doing surgeries, being rich, being fit, etc... etc..
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 11:34 AM
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The key thing isthat those informantions are unknown at the start of a dating relationship. All that matters at the start is attraction (aka physical attractivness, and to a very lesser extent "personality"). For all you know, by the time the woman dating him knew about this, they might have been dating for months or even years, by that time I doubt she would break up over him for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 05:54 PM
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If you are rejected.. well, you are rejected, not someone else. So it stands to reason it's something personal. While the reason you are rejected might be outside of your control, the rejection remains a rejection of you and of what you offers (physical attributes, personality, experience, wealth, etc.. ) : your package isn't wanted, at least it isn't at that moment, by that person. I know seeing things like this and taking rejection personaly is not necessarily healthy for one's psyche (as it t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 08:16 PM
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Rejection is always very personal. But I understand it helps saying it is not ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 07:10 PM
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He said "they wouldn't hesitate to provide" as in "they wouldn't hesitate to provide if they are financially able to".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 06:35 PM
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I never said it was. Although the process is random, by its nature, it will tends to select the most beneficial traits for survival of the species. It absolutely will equip your species with the feature necessary for survival and procreation, that's the whole concept of evolution. However, regarding contraceptives, I do see the point that you are making. Up until sex and procreation were tightly linked and therefore our urge for sex, was inseparable from an urge to procreate. In that case suppos…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 09:32 PM
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Given that the only way to pass on genes is to procreate, I'm pretty sure evolution made it so that even women have the same innate desire to procreate (with the right man). It would make no sense from evolutionary standpoint if it was not so.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 10:02 AM
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The evidence is called "the theory of evolution". Have you heard of it ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 01:13 AM
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Agreed, what is exchanged is simply dna / sex appeal, usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 12:17 AM
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He isn't bad looking, he just needs hair, to be honest. (or to shave completely).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 11:21 AM
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What about all age-gap relationships ? It seems to me you are angry at age-gap relationships where the older partner is significantly uglier than the younger one. Doesn't seem like you would be saying the same thing about a hot-handsome 40 something hanging out with a 20 something.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 11:18 AM
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No real love is when a girl stay with a guy if becomes broke and ugly. Oh wait...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 11:15 AM
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In the end, the only reason why guys go to prostitutes rather than find a FWB is (mostly) because they weren't born genetically lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 01:52 PM
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I think it might just be a similar phenomenom at play than when girls use other girls to filter if a male is worthy. A girl who had tons of sex often mean several things : either she is extremely promiscuous and she didn't want a relationship (kinda fine), and enjoy having a harem.Or she wanted a relationship with her hookup guys, but none of those men wanted one with her (/or the relationship died down very fast ). Imo, none of those things are particularly good indicators for a LTR. PS : It do…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 01:49 PM
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It's about debating to change your mind or reinforce your beliefs - changing other people beliefs is pointless. For me, having a clear construct of the world, where I understand why things happen the way they do helps me and sooth me. It provide guidance as to what I should do to reach my goal and be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 11:46 AM
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I think you got the wrong definition for the word complacent. He hopes to make her not complacent
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 10:11 PM
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The day women want a "nice and respectful man" then the whole world will burn Bullshit. Unless by desire you mean simping behaviours, but even, the guy is just being taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:06 PM
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This is not so. The attraction is genetic, mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:35 AM
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Very interesting ! Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 10:53 AM
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Confidence in finding a partner != confidence in your career, unless you have high status career (ie, doctors, surgeons, lawyers etc...). The truth is to have success in dating, you must be confident in your appeareance (ie. be phyisically attractive ). All the rest is non sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 10:30 AM
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couldn't have said it better !
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 09:16 PM
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Yep !
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 09:12 PM
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I like having the last word, I guess ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 04:33 PM
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I am not talking to you about 3 persons. Expand your experience to 10, 50 people who never made you feel better or happy after you helped them - with a thank you or with a genuine smile. Would you still be inclined to continue helping ? Try to imagine. If you can't, you lack imagination, what can I say. Or else, you must be one those of mythical character I talked about ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 04:14 PM
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"Physical attraction does not matter most to most young women" .. but it matters for you. You said as much when you said it was the basic qualification. As for your analogy with jobs.. it's just like saying "a degree is not the most important thing for getting a job" .... but if you don't have one, there are tons of job which are simply closed forever to you. No matter all your other aptitudes. Being physically attractive will not get you in a relationship with a girl, true, but not being phyisc…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 04:01 PM
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It's not only being compensated, it's simply about being rewarded with a simple genuine thanks. If none of the strangers you helped, one way or another, never genuinely thanked you... I bet you would stop pretty quickly being altruistic. On the other hand, even if only one or two among them showed you that they genuinely appreciate what you did, and you felt it.. then you would be much more inclined to continue your altruistic endeavors. That's what I mean by "being good being rewarded". (althou…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 03:47 PM
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Maybe in 30 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:36 PM
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Sexual value is what kind of mate you can attract for ons and ltr. That's your market value. An ugly overweight girl, is never going to attract chad 6"2 ripped muscular chad, because his sexual market value is way higher. Likewise, an ugly, short guy, is never going to attract stacy 5"11 who does modelling on the side. Markets values differ too much. (unless he is rich as fuck or has some very special status).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 09:24 AM
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Amen, I like hearing the Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 09:16 AM
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You miss her point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 09:15 AM
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Lmao ... you just said that looks get you the door open. In other words, 100% of the guy you dated, you dated them because their looks passed your "threshold". And most of the guy who didn't get the door open was because they were ugly. ​ I don't understand how people can say that looks don't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 09:12 AM
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The problems happen when you are never compensated. We don't live in the teletubbies world. It's much easier to give freely and not expect to be compensated, when you know that you will probably be "compensated" at some point, by someone. In other words, "being good" being rewarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 09:09 AM
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I actually agree (I am a guy, blackpilled). Kinda. Honestly, I wouldn't mind dating/marrying a well above average woman (so nearing model category) in her 30s. (as she would still be able to have children, in any case).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:36 PM
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Isn't our personality what's supposed to define us as us though ? If not, what does ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 04:54 PM
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There is always variance associated with surgeries of course, and risks are unavoidable. At that point, you need to weigh the risk/reward ratio. If a certain surgery could give you +1 or +2 appearance on 1-10 scale, for less than 5% chance of being botched... it's worth considering, let's say.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 11:28 PM
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Agreed !
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 11:03 PM
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I've learned to accept myself and my shortcomings. Instead of beating myself up that I'm not some Chad and I don't have the perfect physique or facial features or height, I just accepted that I have problems. I got problems socializing, I got money problems, job problems, problems getting my dick up, health problems, everything. The second I accepted that, those problems stopped bothering me. I stopped thinking about them because thinking about your problems means you are ashamed of them and not…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 06:07 PM
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There's being physically average to unappealing and confident - the confidence will make up for it. Nah. If you are staight up unappealing, I guarantee you the "confidence" will not make it up :D Either she finds you attractive, or she doesn't. If she doesn't, she doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 06:04 PM
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The truth is if you go with top surgeon, most of the time you will look better/much better. Top surgeon != good marketing of course. Of course, there are risks to everything. But if the risk of being botched with a top surgeon is 5%, 20% no change, and the remaining % is the chance of looking better, it's still worth it imo. PS : No need to discredit me by saying "nice try". I'm decently sure she didn't go with a top surgeon. I didn't say not going to Mexico. I said going to the best expert in y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 05:49 PM
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look worse it's due to having cheap procedures with back alley surgeons in Mexico or elsewhere, overloading She didn't research enough. If you don't spend a few months doing research and reading on the subject, as well as booking consults with the best surgeon(s) in the country : the fault is on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 12:14 PM
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This happens indeed. But it doesn't change the fact, that usually the hotter the girl, the higher her "barrier to entry". Some people are defacto excluded, just because of their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 11:57 PM
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They need to look decent enough in the first place. Which may vary hugely depending on the girl - typically, the hotter the girl, the more you need to be handsome. What this means is, that the initial baseline for a relationship is always physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 12:36 PM
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You can do that as Chad, not when you are subpar. Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 10:55 PM
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They "next" a guy because of his looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 10:52 PM
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Or maybe not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 10:49 PM
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Completely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 07:52 AM
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I didn't say I was (although it's true I kind of implied it. Career-wise I am, but I am held back by my looks). My username was randomly generated by reddit ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 07:45 AM
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Yes, for average it does happen. I did say it could happen, it's just that most of the time it's not the case. The scenario you describe of meeting through college is a bit special. At that point in time, the guy isn't "high value" yet from a career/money point view, but he might be from a physical point view. Most of the time, the most handsome guy of the class is going to go out with one of the hot girl of the class (if not the hottest) - and you are delusional if you think this is not the cas…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 11:18 PM
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I'm not. (I'm top 1-2% earner in my city, but physically below average). But I know some. Successful attractive men are not with overweight / average looking girl most of the time. I disagree with what the guys are saying here. Successfull attractive guys have tons of options, and they will not go for average girls. If someone is successful and attractive .. and can land only an average or overweight looking girl .. he is either not successful or simply not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 10:53 PM
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Let's be honest. A high value guy (aka, a guy with options), would not bother to date a girl who would make him wait for 6 months or until marriage to have sex, ... unless she was virgin (thinking of Adriana Lima ). And no, IDGF about virgins, but I know I wouldn't put up with this behaviour in any other cases lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 06:43 PM
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Personality, mostly, doesn't help in landing the initial date. Just be physically attractive to the girl, have a decent personality and show you are interested ... and you get your date. Afterwards, yes, personality will begin to matter much more. Usually, once you have the first date, there is a decent chance to enter in a relationship (25% +), if you aren't a bloke and you are a minimum interesting. (still provided the girl find you sexually attractive). So what does all of this mean ? That ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 11:44 AM
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GPT is completely bluepilled. Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 11:39 AM
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Is it ? Girls will be 10 times more receptive to you initiating contact with them if they find you attractive (and by that I mean, physically attractive ).I don't understand how someone can even argue that a girl not finding you attractive will not reduce to almost 0% your chance of romance with her. Now of course, in absolute, looks don't matter that much once you are above "the threshold" (which is that she finds you attractive, sexually speaking). But below that...ehhh... you can be funny, gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 09:44 PM
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At the beach, in a bar, in a club, etc (basically all place most probable to spur a romance)... you also get judged mostly on your looks lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 07:37 PM
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Wrong. If you are really good looking, provided you are not homeless, you can just open tinder, put an empty bio, and you will get tons of matches. (and that even if you have a boring, average job. And not super exciting hobbies ).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 05:00 PM
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My point is : being hot >> being funny
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 04:04 PM
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Not true. A lot of blackpiller have a growth mindset : ie going to the gym or having surgeries. ​ Blackpill is about understanding and accepting that physical apparence is the most important feature in mate selection for humans. Simple. Blackpill is about opening your eyes, and seeing that guys that do well with beautiful women, are handsome and tall men themselves. Lmao. You just need to stop being blind. It's about understanding that beauty is mostly objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 01:40 PM
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Of course, looks trump everything. Wealth can influence if the woman is from poor background and you are relatively rich. If she is from a middle class background, you must be rich rich for it to matter (7 figures yearly salary).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 01:32 PM
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Great definition ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 09:20 AM
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6"1 +, broad shoulder, strong jaw, wide lips, masculine gaze, perfect healthy hair. That's Chad. As a blackpiller, I would consider Chad someone nearing male model level of physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 09:12 AM
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Not so common. I see that very very rarely in the streets.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 09:09 AM
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Very interesting idea ! You could make a book on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 09:08 AM
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I would gladly die at 80 instead of 85, or 75 instead of 80, and have 3-4 more inches.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 08:54 AM
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If he is hotter than her, she wouldn't turn him down.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 08:50 AM
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Yes, and they swipped right on hot guys who didn't have anything in their bio :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 08:47 AM
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You are not doing the right comparisons. There is a threshold above which status matters / money matters again. Redo your comparison with with 100k/y vs 1M/y or 2M/y. But below huge numbers, yes I agree, girls are mostly going to for the most physically attractive guy they can get (provided he is not homeless) and money doesn't influence much their decision. As for personality, and humour... You are seriously over-estimating those things. Put 3 three people in a room : A hot guy (6"2 +, handsome…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 08:19 AM
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lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 08:56 PM
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The "feel good" from sex is nature's incentive for us to have sex, and thus have children. I think what OP is saying makes a lot of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 08:01 PM
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lmaooo
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 02:54 PM
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lmao exactly my thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 08:51 AM
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But the truth is you probably would make an exception if she was way above your looksmatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:20 AM
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If you are 6"2 + broad shouldered. Even if you are overweight/fat, or whatever, you are going to have exactly 0 problem dating. You don't even need to be handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 12:42 AM
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lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 12:25 AM
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That's such an interesting take. I guess the only "fair" dating scenario, would be when we actually let go completely of our physical reality, and we become just a brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 12:22 AM
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And how about, maybe, accepting that height and facial attractiveness is all that matters to initial interactions when it comes to dating ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 12:18 AM
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Not even a baseline. The true baseline, as being shown here, is : be physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:47 PM
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If that would make you happy, so be it. I personally couldn’t exclusively bang someone I found ugly though. How can you date someone you would describe as a "gollum". FYI, I'm also blackpilled, and I have lack of dating success because of height/face, but I would never stoop so low as that. It would just make me insanely unhappy. I'll try doing some surgeries and improving my networth and reassess the situation in a few years. If that doesn't work, I'll go through with surrogate mother to at lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:08 PM
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He is probably not "quite attractive", or he is simply shooting above his league. It's very simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:55 AM
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I would prefer having a gay son. Thot daughter means my parenting really went wrong, gay son, not so much (I have a gay friend, who is a really wholesome person). What would really bother me, is if I didn't have any other kids ( as I would really want grandkids of my own, I think ).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:22 AM
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My understanding is that it has nothing to do with being nice. It's just that usually guys *have to be nice* to compensate so other lacking feature (physical traits usually), because for example, an average looking or below average looking can't afford to be someone with a bad caracter. Unlike a handsome looking guy. On the other hand, most guys we are refering to has having a bad and wild caracter, and having success in dating, are confident people who have options and who know it (even if, sub…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:12 PM
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Out of desire for your appearance. Most likely :) And your apperance = dna . A set of proteins combinations.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 09:24 PM
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You might not be staying with him because he is hot. And you might stay with him even if he suddenly became quite ugly. However I'm pretty sure you would not have ended up with him if you had met him as an ugly guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 06:41 PM
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I agree about the cause-and-effect thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 06:37 PM
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Tinder or meetings in real life ? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 08:50 PM
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That's right ! Completely agree with this. How I wish I was born chad though :(
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 05:06 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 09:00 AM
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think frat boy vs emo boy vs body builder etc)? Physical attractiveness gets you date As long as you are not psychotic, if the girl/guy finds you physically attractive, you will get your date.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 08:56 AM
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I don't believe your friend is with an attractive looking woman, while being both not good looking and not tall. But maybe. There are exceptions, but the exceptions only confirm the rule. 95% of people in the street are "looksmatched". ​ Also it's not really about being "shallow". It's in our dna. That's how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 06:53 PM
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Completely agree. ​ PS : I work in a FAANG (or equivalent :D).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 06:38 PM
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Several rejections in a row is enough to destroy most men confidence. All the more when one of your prospect tells you : "Sorry you are not tall enough and attractive enough" :D Of course you can't understand. You were handed over a plate, a childhood love / university love. Things came to you naturally because women were attracted. You would not be with your wife with 7' or 8' less inches lmao. (I mean she would not have dated you to begin with. I don't mean that she would leave you now).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 06:17 PM
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Of course it's rare. It's an uphill battle against evolution. So you need at least that - or relocate to LCOL. Compensating with money in HCOL is tough. About the "kids would be ugly" thing. I believe if you find an above average looking or very attractive partner, chance are your children would at least end up average or more. Otherwise, just like you, I would also prefer just staying single ;) Come on, the number of people being sued by their own children isn't that high haha. Or if you meant …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 08:15 PM
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I was of course referring to a situation where you are single with no debt. If by HCOL you mean New York, Paris, London, etc... Then of course to own 3 appartments, you need to earn 1M+.It's most defintely enough to get 3 appartments within 10-12y with this kind of salary. (I'm not talking about penthouses of course).Otherwise for all other cities, 500k is enough. ​ I was mostly ironic when saying "who cares". Mostly out of tiredness and general acceptance.The truth is if you are looking for rom…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 07:58 PM
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sorry couldn't post my message
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 07:55 PM
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Above 500k, you can start "flashing" your money without it hurting you longterm networth growth. At 1M, you can definetely do whatever you want. I don't know how much you are earning to be able to say 1M is not a big deal. If you have an expensive car, and beautiful penthouse somewhere nice, that'll definetely help. Or if you say you own 3+ appartments. All of this kind of thing helps. Of course, you are mostly attracting gold diggers (by definition - attracted to your financial status, not your…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 07:33 PM
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He must be physically attractive. Same for those guys. At least they must be average to above average. If you are below average to ugly, this does not work :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 07:26 PM
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I think so. If you aren't interested, it just mean you already have a good standard of living, and you are not interested or do not need to be provided for. And that's not a problem. You just have different priorities. Plenty are interested though. The problem though is to be "impressive" in Europe/USA is quite tough (I would ballpark a start at 500k/y). So of course easier to lower the threshold by going to the East. Going East would lower the threshold by half or more. I would assume more than…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:36 PM
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Okay, I'll backtrack a bit. Indeed lawyer/doctors still have a halo effect associated with it. So in this regards social status still matters a bit. But by "social status" I meant what OP said, aka having an active "social life", or a work where you meet people. I don't think it comes even close to physical attractiveness/money when deciding to enter in a relationship/mate selection :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:10 PM
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Overall I do believe there is a salary threshold after which your level of attractivness rise up dramatically, even if you are not physically attractive or you are ugly. I would say, nowadays, this number should starts around 500k, in Europe/USA. (But may go higher in HCOL cities, like NY, Paris, London, like 1M ). Woman do not care about "social status". Their main criterias is physical attractivness, and then financial status. As everyone should.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 05:35 PM
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I've had the opposite experience attractive women have treated men like shit compared to average women What would made you fawn on an ugly guy ? If you find him ugly , no way in hell your body language is positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 03:27 PM
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A lot of interesting stuff in this thread. I definetely believe that your looks do influence hugely the way you grow up and behave. Long term social feedback will mold your personality for sure. There are some exceptions of course. But those are exceptions that prove the rule. When you are ugly, or below average looking, and you are being told that, you will tend to isolate yourself much more. You will be less confident when it's time to speak up, because of your past experiences. Likewise, if f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 03:21 PM
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Thank you for seeing this - I feel it's more about "a rich" man from a "better country" having an economic power over a woman from a "poorer" (less developed) country. Because that way he might have better chances with maybe more desperate women ;) It's uneven in its core. I'd feel worse in such a relationship. ​ Money/Status is the only way to compensate for looks. The more beautiful the girl the more even is the relationship (in the case the guy has financial leverage). People not condoning me…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 01:10 PM
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When we’re talking about countries like the Thailand and the Philippines these women are living in states of such extreme poverty that they are desperate and that’s what these western men are taking advantage of How is it any different than people who use their looks to get dates ? It's very easy to give lessons when you have things going for yourself. People who are ugly, and who don't want to compromise on their partner looks, need to resort to such tactics. Some people can afford to be all na…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:29 AM
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No one wants an ugly subservient man. This is not a selling point. I can cook and I enjoy cleaning, so I rather do it myself than have an ugly grotesque man near me. I agree. It simply is human nature and years of evolution at play.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 04:36 PM
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Of course they would. That's human nature, and market dynamics at play. ​ Women are not supposed to do anything. Everyone ought to act in their own best interest :) ​ PS : I don't know what's your thing with "loyal servant" though. If anything, if a woman settled for someone from a lower league in terms of physical attractivness, she should expect him to be subservient, not the reverse (unless he is bringing something to the table, or has a substantially better social situation ).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 10:19 PM
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Not worship, lmao. Just envious. Most of people who are chads, are just genetically blessed. Nothing worth worshipping lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 09:31 PM
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literally The selling point is actually the reverse : you can marry him and he will be your slave (since he has no options, besides you).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 09:23 PM
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What is loving someone as a person ? When you delve deep inside how things are ... most things are pretty superficial. First and foremost, you are with your partner because of how you looks (something you literally have no control over). Then, as second reason because of your personality, hobbies. So there is a huge part of loving "dna" really. It's a pretty shallow world we are living in. (What I am saying, is that if you had been born 3 points "less" attractive that you are in this life, you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 09:20 PM
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Personality does not matter. Do you think that for some reason women are stupider than men ?And can't understand bad versus good personalities ? This is not the case. The real situation, is that if a woman is attracted to a guy, but this guy is hot enough / attractive enough, then they will promptly ignore the red flags and try to ignore his personality. This happens for all gender. Dude, most women are intelligent and sane beings :) You should really stop writing such broad, generic and obvious…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:38 PM
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This is not true. The overwhelming majority of girls are attracted to men they find hot/handsome :)They DGAF about your personality unless you are hot. And then, if you pass this threshold, if your personality is good bingo ! And if you personality is shit, but you are still hot enough to compensate, that's a bingo too. Isn't it very simple ? I don't see why guys here overcomplicate things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 08:00 PM
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You are taking a lot of very weird examples ... Your premise is that we are talking about young beautiful women but : Is a muscular woman (not toned but muscular) considered beautiful by most ? If we are talking about steroid kind of strongwoman .. then most definetely no. Is an obese woman considered beautiful by most ? (literraly obsese, not just with shape or a bit overweight). The answer is objectively no. Beautiful single mother, or tall woman would not be a problem in dating. I would date …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:21 AM
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I prefer honesty, but use "not my style" or "don't match my physical preference", rather than "you are ugly". It's really the same deep down, but at least it doesn't cast an universal kind of judgment on the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:02 AM
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"Sorry, but you are not my style. That's how I feel, I hope you accept my decision". ​ I guess it's pretty mild and yet leaves no room for discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 09:57 AM
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"Second, I have dated broke and conventionally unattractive men before. I have even been the one to offer to pay for the meals many times." Did you date someone who was at the same time broke and conventionally unattractive ? It would be very surprising to me. Unless you are yourself conventionally ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 08:54 PM
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This happens for both gender ... when there is power imbalance in the relationship (aka. different leagues, different status ). Because the one with lower level believes his/her partner is the best he/she can achieve. And they will start making compromise and ignore red flags, in hope of having a happy story later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 07:37 AM
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Remove the high status part. He becomes average :) Risk taking without success is useless. I don't know why it's so difficult for people on this sub to accept that what women like and want to see in a man is mainly two things : 1) a physically attractive appearance, 2) a succesful man. If you are "risk taking", a "bad boy", but on the other hand broke, emaciated, and ugly ... guess what ? No normal woman is going to find you attractive. 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 03:16 PM
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You are misunderstanding : The issue here is not dating down with regards to your own league. It's dating down with regards to your standards/requirements. Those are two different concepts. However when your league is below your requirements, you do have a problem. If you don't want to change your standards, the only way, is to bring your league up, that can be : surgery, becoming rich, being jacked (but the last one can only help to a certain degree, if you are ugly, you are ugly not amount of …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:37 PM
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It depends on how tall you are dude. If you are 5"9 and below you can't lie about your height. All the more if you are in a public setting and there are real 6" guys around, who tower over you lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 06:13 PM
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Yeah until you arrive at your date, and the girl is actually wearing heels and is your height. LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:45 PM
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Wtf is this comparison. You can lie about your count, but can't about your height. I don't even get what's the thing about people on this sub who thinks they can distinguish girls with high N-count or not. If they lie about it or don't want to tell you a specific numbers, you have absolutely 0 way of knowing in any case.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:48 PM
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That's not how this works. Unless we are talking about top 1% earner brack earner, going from broke to just being average in terms of income, will not help you at all with dating. At least not with dating 18-25 yo women as 35+ yo guy lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 07:57 PM
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I call on bullshit :) When you have someone objectively physically ugly and someone objectively physically attractive standing next to each other, you know who is more "beautiful" in a split of a second (aka - phyiscally attractive). I don't know what's up with people saying such obvious non-truth like this. If two people, are quite near in terms of phyiscal attractivness, then yes it becomes subjective, but otherwise beauty is mostly universal and objective. It's just the way we are wired, real…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 12:41 PM
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60% rejection means you are objectively quite attractive lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 08:31 AM
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Yeah an ugly but massive/tall guy can get pretty girls too. But if you don't have anything going for yourselve physically, you can bet money is the only way forward lmao. "Game" won't save you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 08:29 AM
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I didn't read everything, but this part triggered me : "including models and recently a 5'10" woman who has 600k subs on YouTube" . I'm pretty damn sure that if, given your physical appearance, you don't have a well above average lifestyle, you are definetely not going to hang out with/ date those kind of girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:36 AM
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Also, where are you living ? Maybe eastern europe ? (From what I know this is a bit more expected there).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:44 AM
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Feels like a weird relationship dynamic. I mean, in special circumstances it would be natural to help out, like having to help for very urgent/critical things : ie. not getting evicted from one's appartment, some medical bills, etc.. But in this case, she is basically asking to bail her out of the bad decision she made regarding her ex. She is in debt, so what ? ​ How about you ask her to simply move in with you, at least she wouldn't have to pay rent. That would make sense. Also how long have y…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:43 AM
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Is she hotter than you ? (important question). Are you living together already ? ​ IMO wouldn't pay any significant debt until we are married and have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:23 AM
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How would you know when they are not even aware of this themselves (except for those who make a point of consciously analysing their choices/thoughts).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:17 AM
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. "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting the same result". ​ What you are saying is all well and good, but for someone who has experienced rejection after rejection, and can not seemingly get into a relationship with someone he finds attractive, adapting is the only rational way forward. If adapting means trying to understand human behaviour, and rationalizing human choices as a market, then so be it. But I do hear what you are saying though. Sadly some of us do not have the l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 09:54 PM
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Come on man ! You gotta task risk in life :) On a more serious note, it does work, and there is only 5% risk, I think (if you go with a top surgeon). You can gain more than 8cm, but then the risk increase exponentially. Like even up to 14cm in total. If I didn't have to be bedridden for 6 months, even for a 5 cm gain, I would still gladly pay 100k$ or more for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:20 PM
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I wasn’t intending to specify the standards, only acknowledge that there’s only a hand full of options and changing the standards aren’t one. You can comply to the standards and get the quality partner you desire or you could be stagnant and see what fortune just maybe has in store for you, which more than likely will be nothing. A man complaining that women only want rich men won’t benefit him, nor will a woman complaining that men only want feminine women. If you want it, just comply Get a LL …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 04:37 PM
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