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They don't have time or money for a social circle, or vacations, or the gym. I work 60 hours a week and go to college as well. I have time for a social circle and go to the gym for about 5 hours a week, not to mention doing cardio on the side. They've got PLENTY of time. Anyone who says they don't is making excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 10:05 PM
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Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling Yeah thats true. Based on my experience, if you're above average as a man you can expect to get a ton of play. But that doesn't fix dating issues in the slightest btw. For example, I work at a gym as a personal trainer. One of our front desk workers is a young man, 21 years old and is very happy. He's good looking, about 5'9 150lbs, and 14% bf. He's a bit autistic, but he has a girlfriend. She's a very pretty goth girl. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:37 PM
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Can you talk with a female coworker about the girl you like? So she can go tell her that I'm creeping on her and then they can both talk about me behind my back about how I'm a little weirdo who is a freak for being attracted to her? Or maybe they can both report me for harassment. I'm good thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:03 AM
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Youre not even reciting what I said properly. You just want to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:48 PM
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I responded to the original statement which is different from the newly asserted one. Don't care about your semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:35 PM
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Notice how you just switched up to "a lot of men" instead of "more like men"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:33 PM
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Yes. But none of this is "more like men" which is what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:26 PM
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It's truly just another example of reality. Dating is about 75+% about looks. How attractive you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:18 PM
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So when woman reach that special time, they are actually acting more like men Completely false. The idea that men and women react to the same hormones identically is wrong. Testosterone doesn't make women act more manly. It makes them act different, but not more manly. And that's linked to receptors, ratios of bloodstream content, and many others. For example, its been shown in males that testosterone doesn't increase physical aggression levels unless paired with cortisol. This is an important d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:10 PM
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Women are more neurotic than men on average. That's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:08 PM
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Even women in here die on the hill that politely asking out a woman is a disgusting creep behavior, and that woman has every right to completely shit on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:22 PM
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There's this stunning girl at my work who's given me (potentially) a ton of signals she's interested in me. Pretty much everyday she compliments something about me. Usually multiple times per day. She's also hugged me before and makes really hard eye contact. And yet I can't make a move. The risk of getting called a creep, being told everything she's been doing was obviously platonic, being accused of sexual harassment and fired. All of these are awful things we have to deal with, for simply pur…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:19 PM
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are you aware that its impossible for every man to earn enough to do this? No its not. The US was doing it 60 years ago. The only reason we struggle with it now is a product of a multitude of socio-geopolitical factors that are 100% in our control. Also, just live cheaper bro. You can easily support a full family on 50k per year if you're living correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:01 PM
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Depends on the women. Majority of the time I get tired of her after 1. Many more times a few. It's been 1 woman in my life so far I didn't get tired of. Another 2 took a few months to get bored of.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 11:50 PM
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Notice how I never said that. We have now established why you have issues with communication
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:59 PM
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I feel like you're not even an English reader.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:25 PM
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Humans are designed to be able to read body language, demeanor, tone and quite literally smell other people's feelings. If you can't interpret what's going on with your partner, its a product of your own individual lack of competence (remember when I said competence is attractive) You should work to improve this skill if you lack it. It's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:19 PM
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How about people communicate their needs? Yeah but....have you ever dealt with a woman? They don't communicate their needs directly. 99% of the time she will communicate her needs non-verbally, or with innuendo. It's not possible to have a successful relationship with a woman where you rely on her being direct about what she wants. Because she won't consistently do that. Instead, learn to read her feelings and react accordingly. For one, it's a better way to cultivate attraction because the real…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:17 PM
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Well, you're a woman. I'm talking about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:56 PM
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I think its insane that we've come to a point in society where we are genuinely trying to claim that it's unrealistic to take direct action with the purpose of improving your relationship with you life partner Relationships are work Happiness doesn't just happen. Fulfillment doesn't just happen. You don't marry someone and spend 50 years together by chance, everyday just relying on no system to ensure that you always are satisfied with one another. You have to actively seek to improve the relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:05 PM
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You just did.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:24 PM
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Man should be able to support them financially 100% He should be extremely physically fit, strong, athletic and capable of violence. (Combat training+physical development) He should be highly competent and able to use his competence to solve complex issues such as how to fix a broken utility item, or how to prep the house for a natural disaster. He should be vigilant and aware, always ready to lay down his life to protect his wife and kids. He should be constantly cultivating attraction with his…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:45 AM
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Go read a book.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:22 AM
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https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/322279 males: less than 17 ng/ml Is the standard range. You have absolutely 0 clue what you're talking about. It's fucking insane how confidently you said that when you are completely out of the loop in every feasible way. Men dont produce prolactin??? Prolactin is the PRIMARY sex hormone that causes sex cycle resets in men and prevents men from fucking until they die. It's a necessary hormone in all humans, and serves many roles. Go to school or somethi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 05:21 AM
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Well my issue is less about mental fortitude and more about the reality that 95% of people will never understand why they have these issues and therefore be unable to solve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:57 AM
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I surely believe that. I know there are genuine traditional men out there, I'm one of them. But at the same time I hear so many stories from my female friends about the stuff their supposedly traditional bfs and husband's have done and it's just brutal. It's one of the few things I actually feel shame for in my gender. But at the same time, I know how hard it is to fight intense sexual urges. I've had to spend years learning about physiology, diet, and the endocrine system to transform myself in…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:48 AM
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I think the brutal reality is that even a large percentage of "trad men" are going to cheat in some form during a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:36 AM
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Sounds like a boring time
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:31 AM
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Youre wild. Even I get bored of the same pussy 90% of the time. I've only ever met 1 woman that didn't become boring after a few times. And I love her to this day. For men, finding a woman that remains fun to engage with sexually for a very long duration is very hard. And that's for numerous reasons that are hormonally charged, such as the prolactin spikes that sexual intercourse induces into men which cause us to be avoidant of women who aren't LTR potential mates after copulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:28 AM
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I seriously don't know who has started putting this idea out there. Data overwhelmingly shows that the majority of men have sex, and the top 40% pretty much have a ton of options. Have you ever been outside? Women hit on men all the time in real life. We gonna pretend that 95% of men have 0 options? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:24 AM
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Yeah, in reality he had a very physically attractive face due to symmetry, low bf% (or low for his face) and good facial average score. He had good genetics. Doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 12:00 AM
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But if your a guy who wants to improve his life and wants to be successful with women, where would you tell him to go? Honestly, the black pill has 1 thing right. Looks are by far the most important component. Studies have shown this innumerable times. As a result, the best place you can go is to looksmaxxing+aesthetics zone. After that, you need to develop a moral framework and purpose. That pretty much encompasses everything to be honest. I see alot of "just be yourself" and "it depends on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:58 PM
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Don't want to be conceited but I think its pretty objective that I am. My only flaw is that I'm 5'7. Aside from that, facial symmetry is really good, I'm super muscular, lean, clavicles are 2 standard devations wider than average. I frequently am compared to 2 different actors who are considered attractive. Blah blah.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 12:49 PM
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The only valid response so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:42 AM
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Sex only zone: Does she meet minimum attractiveness qualifications to have sex with? (5.5/10. Number scales with sex drive in the given moment.) If so, sex is now more likely. Next: does she make me uncomfortable, is she excessively weird or gross, is she dangerous. Yes, men should and do worry about these things too. Just not as much as women. If she's none of these things, we've now successfully entered the sex zone. What distinguishes the sex zone from the relationship zone? When it comes to …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:39 AM
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You need to have your own life, own hobbies, be happy and fulfilled. Dating someone won’t fulfill your needs. It won’t make you more happy. Being lonely and single is bad for your mental health. You need to be in a relationship. I have my entire life together. I have innumerable hobbies, skills, my job is beyond fulfilling, I have dozens or hundreds of real friends, I'm extraordinarily healthy. Everything is in order. But I'm single. It's depressing. We need relationships as humans. They're a ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:49 AM
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You've likely spoken to less than 100 men about TRP in you entire life You are not an expert on the subject or EVEN CLOSE to one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:03 PM
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It's been disproven many times in scientific literature. The level of arrogance to think your personal experience is more valuable than decades of data gathering and repeated observation. Your experience is less than 0.01% of the data been gathered on the topic. Learn some humility.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:00 PM
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With everything you now know about alpha fuxs/ beta bucks, would you be a beta bucks? This is what's commonly referred to as dual mating strategy hypothesis. It's been disproven in the body of scientific literature many times at this point, even the man who originally proposed the idea has long since admitted its not observable in real world data sets. Women are attracted to the same type of men. SOME women will settle for a "beta bux" (a man who's rich and otherwise not very masculine) but if s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:43 PM
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On one hand I feel bad that women have to deal with this type of stuff too But on the other I'm glad it's not gendered in the way I was thinking. Your post made me remember how true it is that women are often told these things. It makes you wonder if it's ever possible to find someone who's essentially just not a crappy human
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 10:57 PM
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When my mom wasn’t allowed to go to a flag ship state university? Or could have her own bank account? Lol good one. In 1974 women had bank accounts and went to university. Not only this, but men have never had more rights than women on the whole. Men suffered equally if not more than women throughout history, and had just as few rights. Rights were restricted to nobles and monarchs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 10:46 PM
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I understand and have experienced this many times too. To the point where I've even been told "That is a lie from hell" when telling a woman that I'd been abused, even used some data to show how common it actually is And "you must've done something to warrant that!" "Those men make their wives hit them by cheating on them, or hitting them first!" Among many other unhinged responses. I even tried to go to therapy as women love to say is the way to deal with everything. Just to be told "wow that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 10:44 PM
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I once went on a date with my the girlfriend to a steakhouse. Our waitress comes up to us "omg you're so pretty!" (Talking to my gf) The waitress then goes on a 5 minute rant about how her previous table had some guy asking for her number. She said "men are so trash, and can't handle rejection at all! I told him I'm a lesbian and he's not my type!" She said something to this effect. My gf sat there and agreed with her right in front of me. After the waitress left I asked her what that was about.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 10:30 PM
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Including himself....even he shouldn't be doing that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 11:47 PM
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Men are the ugly gender, women are the pretty gender Nah. Men are the do things gender and women are the produce things gender. Women are attractive for their implied ability to bear children and remain fertile. Men are attractive for their implied ability to perform demanding feats. Different metrics for, and components of attraction. What's ugly and pretty depends entirely on how you're defining these things. Women don’t find an overwhelmingly majority of men attractive Women have a higher sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 11:00 PM
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First off, the "alpha beta" thing doesn't exist in human social structures. That's a myth and is entirely fabricated. Human social structure is built around hierarchy, yes. It's not as simple as "alpha, beta" Men who have power and control within a given social structure have always acquired it mainly with social skill and competence. Women do not want "alpha men" or "beta men" Women want: a man with the potential to be a good long term mate. The qualities that come with this are as follows: Int…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:34 PM
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Yeah there's a very obvious bias here that bumble is going to account for maybe 5-15% of women. Then there's the bias that dating apps are used by a minority of women, and that minority skews towards the exact same group of women who are responsible for the majority of casual hook ups. Then on top of that there's the gender ratio bias in which majority of users are male, and so there's a supply and demand effect in which the women have to reduce supply to even have a chance of weeding through so…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 03:41 PM
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Height is best between 5'10-6'2 Anything more and you start to lose attractiveness for most women. There's studies on this. I'll never understand why people always reference NBA players as "super attractive" when they're like 6'7 on average. I've seen several studies that show only around 40% of women would be willing to date someone who's 6'7.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 03:16 PM
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That's a redpill lie+myth deliberately fabricated to fool people. It's based on since retracted OK cupid data, and has no bearing on real life (because there is a massively skewed gender ratio of users on dating apps in general.) In reality, only about 20% of the population of men and women are even engaging in casual hook up culture, and only half of them are accounting for something like 90% of all casual hook ups. Everyone else is having sex in relationships. 63% of American men are fathers. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 01:46 AM
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You’re allowed to not want people who have casual sex. But as a man who has had casual sex and enjoyed it, and now enjoy a LTR, there are plenty of people who don’t mind my past. Statistically women care far less about men's promiscuous history than men do about women's. Obviously. So your advice for women to have tons of casual sex is really bad. Illogical. Nonsensical. It’s true, many of the people I’ve had sex with were not people I’d be compatible with long term. However, if my goal in casua…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 08:29 PM
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Casual sex isn’t a failed relationship. Yes it is. The only reason people exclusively engage in casual sex is because they don't like eachother enough to be together. There is no relationship Cause they don't like eachother That’s why women who are single call it that. Women who are single just don't have sex by and large. You’re definitely allowed to think women who have casual sex are annoying but that’s irrelevant to women because they have no idea who you are and presumably aren’t trying to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 08:17 PM
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If a woman is single, she literally can’t have LTR sex, no matter how much she wants to. That's why women overwhelmingly search for LTR... A single woman who wants to enjoy sex only has casual as an option. It’s either “enjoy casual sex, or none at all.” Completely false for extremely obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 08:15 PM
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Sex feels good, so women with a high body count are, presumably, having the most pleasure from sex? No, they're having the most number of failed relationships and are having less TOTAL sex with MORE PEOPLE Meaning they're worse at it, and more annoying to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 08:11 PM
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Across all studies and metrics, sex is better in LTRs than casually. In fact, women in relationships have far more sex than women who are single. Because women in most cases don't even enjoy casual sex. Because sex is a lot about chemistry. It takes an exceptional man to be Able to just sexually please women easily and en masse. Or you can keep blue pill coping and lying as though casual sex is in any way shape or form beneficial to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 08:10 PM
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I dont regret not accepting your apology, because you immediately repeated your initial mistake in the same comment where you apologized, and then started being unreasonable again immediately afterward. You're just very rude and ignore everything everyone says and jump to wild conclusions. It's very disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 10:28 PM
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but can you not see how ridiculous an idea it is that just because are stronger, that there are a lot of reasons they can’t fight back? Don't ask me that question. This was framed as a discussion where people can assert their opinions on the topic. You're trying to imply that I made the statement that men should fight back, when all I did was put forth the commonly used rhetoric on the topic for others to discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 09:18 PM
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Brain -1
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 08:51 PM
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Brain 0
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 08:30 PM
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do you agree that women are more frequently sexually assaulted than men Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 07:25 PM
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Yes I understand according to their definition it does. I'm saying that I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 02:41 PM
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I'd just like to point out that usually if someone is actually made to penetrate its a very unpleasant experience for numerous reasons. One of them being the feeling males get on their sex organs post ejaculation and how it's unpleasant, especially when forced. As well the pain that can be experienced when the person on top is only worried about themselves, they will be going in directions that a penis isn't meant to go in oftentimes. Overall it is very horrible, and I'd venture to say that bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 12:39 PM
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Youre right. There's a stigma towards victims across the board that they're often not believed. And this is not good, but I believe it's also a reflection of how common lying about sexual misconduct actually is. And its surprisingly common. That said, it wasn't just an issue of believing the victim but also of telling them they should have enjoyed it or that it's not a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 12:33 PM
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Try reading it again
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 06:46 AM
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To someone like yourself most likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 06:33 AM
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the 3rd situation sounded fake and the second was ludicrous. Glad I included in my original comment that people will say "men who talk about it are viewed as liars for attention or to seem desirable" They're not fake situations. They all really happened in real life, nearly identical to how I described. to be very clear I also discount a great deal of modern m on f "sa" and trauma rhetoric as well Many SAs may not have happened. It doesn't matter when we're talking about real instances and wheth…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 06:18 AM
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Example 1: 6 year old boy gets molested by his mother. She touches him in appropriately on his nipples, and then penis. She kisses him with full mouth and tongue and licks his body. He doesn't really understand but still feels like it's wrong and weird. He then grows up with a permanent immutable alteration to his sexual orientation, having uncontrollable sex responses which lead him to older women or extremely toxic women that physically and mentally and verbally abuse him. Example 2: adult 19 …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 06:04 AM
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Yeah, I can also say this has happened to me. I was severely abused as a child. My father would throw me to the floor and kick me relentlessly, on several occasions he literally cut me with a knife and a pizza cutter. He would choke me unconscious, beat me with flyswatters until they were broken, punch me in my face (broke my nose once) and much more. He had schizophrenia and aspergers. And was an alcoholic. My mother would force me to sleep on metal bed frames with no blankets, sheets or mattre…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 05:44 AM
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Would you like to hear some examples of how it can happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 05:32 AM
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3 times from memory that you may appreciate. Example 1. Girl asked me why I was having difficulty sexually (just wasn't into it) and I told her I don't know whatever. She got upset, asked if it's cause she's not attractive. I told her no, it's cause I was dealing with a sexual assault in which I was touched in ways which made me feel messed up that I wasn't feeling good about sex. She got a visible look of disgust on her face and looked away from me. Some days later she refused to keep dating me…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 05:29 AM
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I don't think you can really blame women though as men are just as guilty of it if not more so. I agree with this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 05:07 AM
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Why is the idea ludicrous to you? Is it for the reasons I listed?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 05:06 AM
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Why do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 05:04 AM
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and vaginal stimulation does fuck all for most women when it comes to orgasms. Lmao. Lolololol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:52 AM
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You're trying to argue that past 2 inches in a vagina there's no feeling?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:15 AM
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If I was lucky enough to have someone say yes I'd try to treat them as well as possible to ensure they want to come back. You say that until you get it. Which is why dating is so fucking hard. The people who aren't getting relationships are desperate for one and will jump at the chance. But then after 6 month, a year even more you find out its not all its cracked up to be. The feelings fade and you have to put in genuine mature effort to continue to cultivate and maintain attraction and healthy …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:12 AM
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There's literally studies that show women are more likely to achieve orgasm if their partner has a penis that is longer. 6.5 or so inches usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:02 AM
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Yes they are. Some women my be broken models though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:14 PM
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Data on the topic consistently shows that most married men are doing around 40% of housework hours while putting in more total hours at work. Men work the most hours when you add up: Paid labor, unpaid labor, time with children. Women work less hours overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:10 PM
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Well that's why the newer data works to resolve this. That's what rigor is supposed to be. But at the same time, data about male victimization in general has been actively blocked on purpose for a very long time by political lobbiests. Example being, we've had data that shows women committ the majority of IPV since the mid 1990s, but that has been blocked from public knowledge by feminist activists who assert purposely skewed data in its stead to allow them to lobby for law changes that benefit …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 02:10 AM
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but you ARE implying that you won’t do anything to try and change the narrative. Never once implied I dont do anything. I do. Actively. To this day I do. But what I said is fact It will never change for society. Defeatist biology I’m talking about YOU homie I do this for those around me. How this post became an attempt to assassinate my character, rather than discuss the topic is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:23 AM
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No I'm not. I'm not the one who shames men for being assaulted and not liking it. I'm simply saying that's how it is. But thanks for trying to attribute that to me it really shows your character.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:12 AM
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You don’t lift each other up and support each other when this stuff happens. This will never change. Nobody cares. Nobody will ever care. It's just how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:04 AM
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You're saying men don't report on surveys asking if they've been harassed? Yes actually. In terms of surveys, men are far more likely to report sexual victimization if the questions are worded in a way that essentially tricks them into admitting it happened. Instead of "have you been sexually assaulted?" You get: "has anyone ever repeatedly engaged you with sexual actions even if you initially didn't want to?" Etc However, I still don't necessarily think men are victimized more than women. I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:01 AM
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fawn, wherein you just give in and go with it to please the other person because you feel there's no way out. I see that definitely makes sense. Sorry that happened to you btw It's not a big deal to be honest, but thank you for your empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 06:55 PM
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While it’s certainly not a common occurrence It's actually more commonly someone you know
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 06:48 PM
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Was driving down the road the other day and this car behind me started angrily honking at me for literally 2 minutes straight while I'm sitting at a redlight. Light turned green and the car sped past me. I caught up to the car, wanting to physically assault the individual inside. Pulled up beside them and it's a woman. Told her "you're lucky you're a woman" and then sped off still really annoyed. Famously, Sean strickland once pulled up next to a woman he was road raging at and asked her if she …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 06:47 PM
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why couldn’t she stay there alone if she’s your girlfriend? We'd only been together a couple months at the time and I wasn't comfortable with her being alone with my things It does seem like low self esteem is a common theme among a lot of people so do you think there’s anything society or individuals could do to help with that? Society can do nothing. In my opinion. It is up to the individual to raise their self esteem by either accepting their flaws, or improving until their flaws are acceptab…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 01:17 PM
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why was leaving the house or going to another room not an option? Leave her in my home alone without me there? Didn't want to do that, and was certain she'd get mad at me if I did do it. And she surely would've demanded to go with me anywhere I go anyway. (Since she drove an hour to come visit me for the weekend) Go to another room and she just follow me in there. Really no point. If she truly loved you she wouldn’t take this personally as she’d realize it’s a boundary. Oh no she didn't love me …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 06:19 AM
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It will never enter public consciousness. We discovered in the late 80s that IPV was primarily perpetrated by women as a majority. To this day most people still think it's the opposite. This is stuff that will never be accepted or talked about in any capacity in mainstream media.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 05:46 AM
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Just to kind of add to this using my own personal experience These are unhelpful and do not reflect how people respond it's fight, flight, or freeze for a reason. There have been many times I've been with a woman, and for various reasons I didn't want to engage in sexual intercourse. But women by and large in my experience will rarely accept any form of no if they're the ones initiating. (Maybe my anecdote is non-representative though) Anyway, you used the term "fight flight or freeze" But hones…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 05:41 AM
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The liberal well educated women (of which I am one) don’t have kids out of wedlock, good jobs, usually take care of themselves, and are looking for a good educated man. Women with degrees have higher divorce rates. Women with higher incomes have higher divorce rates. Women who are liberal have more sexual partners on average, cheat more, and less agreeable and more combative and otherwise just more manly. We just don't want Women like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 10:17 PM
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Like any self respecting man would ever lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 10:14 PM
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After reading through your replies it's painfully obvious why you're an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 08:54 PM
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Lol. I've traveled to dozens of countries and met many women who I don't speak the same language as. If anything that seemed to be a bonus in many cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 02:33 AM
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Your argument is that you don't use common definitions of words so no explanation will ever work for you? Ok. Well I'm not trying to convince you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 09:22 PM
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How can we possibly be in agreement if you dont know what my argument is? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:52 PM
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Youre the one taking issue with what I'm saying....when you by your own admission don't even know what I'm saying. What am I supposed to say to that? Go check what I said, re-read it. It's extremely easy to understand. And then after you actually do understand it, if you still have an issue with what I've only at that point should you start taking issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:40 PM
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Hahaha "you can't really explain why" You're funny. I can 100% explain why, and so can anyone who's well read on the literature.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:28 PM
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I’m not sure what your argument is? That's crazy cause I outlined my argument perfectly in my initial comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:15 PM
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I listed a whole lot more than physical attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:46 PM
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Chemistry lol Historically marriage has always been about economic partnerhood Sexual and romantic "enjoyment" has always been about physical attraction. "Chemistry" is just a cope way of saying "are they both attracted to eachother based on near universally enjoyed characteristics." These characteristics are: Physical attractiveness Social status Kindness, benevolence, selflessness, etc Intelligence That's nothing to do with "chemistry" it's just about being superior to other people in qualitie…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:07 PM
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I'd like to add to this Women's orgasms aren't necessary for reproduction, although they seemingly help a little bit As such, male orgasm are the direct component that LEADS to reproduction, and are therefore not meant to be sequential. (Each male orgasm spikes prolactin, which is a testosterone competitor in the bloodstream and therefore reduces sex drive) And so male orgasms have a reset timer, whereas female orgasms can be multiple in sequence and more numerous in a shorter period of time bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 06:36 PM
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Yo, are you good?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 12:59 PM
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Youre denying that there can be severe social and legal ramifications if you go around asking women out?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 12:58 PM
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down votes my post asserts righteousness by naming the platform in a negative light, while ignoring logic pretends to care about other users experience even though he just did something disrespectful leaves feeling vindicated
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 08:48 PM
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Technically, you can do whatever you want. You just have to deal with the consequences of whatever action you choose. This was a pointless statement. Obviously that's the case. These “terrible things” that will happen to you if you respectfully flirt with a woman (as in smile and playfully tease her about something while always knowing when to walk away) are a myth. They're not a myth in the slightest. I have seen them in real life. An example, actually, is last week while I was at work I saw a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 08:41 PM
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7 means in top 30% of men. Objectively, 70% of men are overweight or obese. Another 15% of the remaining 30 are under-muscled. 70% of male attractiveness is determined by strength potential, with the remaining 30% being a mixture of height, and facial features. Hes bare minimum an 8 using a percentile based scoring system Objectively. The problem is you're simply using a different system than I am. Think of it this way, if you line up 10 guys, you seriously think 3 out of every 10 guys will be m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 08:29 PM
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In real life, just be normal and friendly. Flirt with people you find attractive but always be respectful. It's genuinely not this simple as a man in the real world though. You cant just flirt with women you find attractive. Yes it will work sometimes but other times you'll have a bunch of terrible things happen to you for your efforts. That's the primary reason men list for why they don't approach women as well. Women don't at all have this problem. A 2/10 woman can go hit on a good looking guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 08:20 PM
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No offense but you're just not even close. Adam Levin is objectively an 8/10 at minimum looks wise This is provable using the conglomerate of data that exists on facial averages and its rate of being the consistently most universally attractive type of face in the region. He has a face that is very near to this criteria and has a body that exudes some level of athletic capability and strength. At minimum he's an 8/10, might be a 9. If he wasn't famous he'd be able to sleep around just as he does…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 08:15 PM
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Personally, I'm indeed not so sure I would be willing to die for my husband, not because I don't love him, but exactly because I love him I want to live and be there for him as long as he lives. No offense but this is super narcissistic. "I love him so much that if I died he'd have nothing left" These are all ME ME ME statements. In actuality, if you actually love someone, you'd be willing to sacrifice for their betterment. If it meant taking a bullet for him to live you'd do it. In actuality, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 05:21 PM
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You said: so 1/3 was still male violence even in lesbian relationships Incorrect. 1/3 had experienced at least ONE male perpetrator. Lesbians also have the highest rate of reocurring IPV, and have had at least 1 male partner in the past. Yes. Obviously I said this. Notice that nowhere did I say that lesbians have the highest rate of IPV. I said they have the highest rate of REOCURRING IPV. As in multiple partners. It's in the full studies data set. Lesbians don’t have the highest rate of reoccur…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 04:48 AM
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Bisexual women experience the most violence, Never denied that based on your source. Never provided a source And you’ve provided no evidence, just speculation. Ironic you said that after you claimed I sourced something. I also didn't "speculate" I said some simple data points and extrapolated what they mean. I didn't say what they exactly are in terms of percentages. All I did was show what the data means in the macroscale. And I'm correct
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 04:41 AM
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"while two -thirds of lesbians reported having only female perpetrators of IPV." I'm very intimately acquainted with this study I've read it many times. You quoted it yourself here. 66% of lesbians have had ONLY female perpetrators. This means that 34% have had at least 1 male perpetrator. This does NOT mean that 34% of IPV against lesbians is committed by males. It means that 34% have had a male perpetrator. It doesn't mean ONLY a male perpetrator. Many of these (an unknown percentage) have had…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 04:16 AM
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Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 09:46 PM
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That's probably part of it. But it's not the inly aspect. For one, actual organizations do block male spaces from being created. Boy scouts is a good example, and the male shelters being shut down in Canada by feminists. Beyond that you run into the question of why don't people support these things? People aren't entirely opposed to supporting men. Veterans get at least some support from people. Well why would anyone support something they don't even know exists? The media is STILL propagating t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 05:44 PM
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Yeah I mean, but the data does show that to be the case. There's cdc data on this that shows th rate of looking for relationships vs casual sex is non-symmetrical with women seeking relationships more
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:25 PM
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... Men literally have lower rates of looking for committed relationships than women do. This entire post is nonsensical.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:10 PM
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The statistic you quoted from the analysis is an analysis of the CDC data. I didnt quote any statistics. You're literally fabricating this. Furthermore, the meta analysis uses data sets from the CDC and from the FBI. It's not a CDC study, it's a Pubmed written by 2 independent authors. Do you not have basic knowledge of how to read studies and reference citations? I think you clearly don't know anything about what's going on. I asked for information you asserted. You provided an incorrect source…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:35 PM
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The study he linked is a pubmed meta analysis that uses data sets from multiple sources. Idk what you're on about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:13 PM
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That's not what I asked for. I asked for a quote from the study in question about it specifically not using female oral sexual assault in the data set.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:10 PM
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What a useless response. An eye roll emoji while avoiding accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:09 PM
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Even this line of reasoning is absurd. Male only centers are actively shut down and simantled at every turn. That's why they don't exist...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:06 PM
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Preach
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:05 PM
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Women have higher rates of committing interpersonal partner violence. So there's more to it than what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:02 PM
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Also, the definitions in the studies you cited includes non-consensual reception of oral sex for men but not for women. Can you quote where that's the case in the data? I couldn't find it. Also, I'd like to point out that even if what you're saying is true, the study he linked does still 100% show that far more than 25% of sexual assault perpetrators are female, though the exact number is hard to quantify. Now if it's a repeatable data set or not, I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:01 PM
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so 1/3 was still male violence even in lesbian relationships Incorrect. 1/3 had experienced at least ONE male perpetrator. Lesbians also have the highest rate of reocurring IPV, and have had at least 1 male partner in the past. The majority of the 1/3 that have had 1 male assailant also have female assailants. "Of the bisexual women who experienced IPV, approximately 90 percent reported having only male perpetrators, Bisexual women engage in relationships almost exclusively with men, at a 91% ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:50 PM
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Youre engaging in bad faith, obviously. http://www.mynewplaidpants.com/2013/12/which-is-hotter_6.html Brad Pitt shirtless https://www.eonline.com/photos/24656/chris-hemsworth-s-best-shirtless-moments/850450 Chris Hemsworth shirtless http://globalcelebritiesblog.blogspot.com/2013/07/tom-cruise-shirtless-body-pictures.html Tom cruise https://www.fanpop.com/clubs/twilight-series/images/6422723/title/robert-pattinson-shirtless-photo Robert Pattinson http://www.popsugar.com/Andrew-Garfield-Garrett-He…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 11:35 PM
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Tom Holland, Brad Pitt, Chris Hemsworth, the rock, Tom cruise, Robert Pattinson, Andrew Garfield, Zac effron, channing Tatum, Jake Gyllenhaal, Chris Evans, Michael B Jordan, Tom hardy, Ryan Reynolds, Taylor Lautner. All in the top 5% of men in terms of fat free mass index, and ranging between 5'6-6'3 Have fun with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 11:12 PM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5745404/ "Scatterplots are shown in figure 2, and illustrate that most of the variance in attractiveness is accounted for by ratings of strength" "rather, in both samples, the strongest men were the most attractive, and the weakest men were the least attractive." "The rated strength of a male body accounts for a full 70% of the variance in attractiveness. Additional variance (up to 80%) can be explained by adding the premium women put on height and su…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 10:59 PM
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Porn for men focuses on the female form. Porn for women focuses on the female form. Sex is entirely focused on the female form. Women do less work in sex by a lot, and most of their role is to "be sexy" and generally, the thing that turns them on the most is feeling sexy. I compare it to birds. With birds, the male bird is like the female human. They have all these colors and plumes dance and do all this shit, and the female picks the attractive one and then they reproduce. In humans, our female…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 10:01 PM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5698798/ RESULTS The 10th–90th percentiles of totalT values in adults (≥20 years) was 150–698 ng/dL (5.20–24.2 nmol/L) in men, Anything below 700 is (in most cases) indicative of dysfunction in diet, sleep, excercise or stimuli. 100 years ago it was common for men to be above 700, now less than 10% of the population is in that range. Not only that, but they've since shifted male "normal ranges" down to 300-1000 from its former position. This is a terr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 03:25 PM
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Myth born to demonize masculinizing hormones. High testosterone (in the healthy range) is linked to benevolence and sympathy. Low T (in men) causes innumerable issues, one of them being that it causes degradation of your physical body which then in turn forces you to adopt a feminine approach to aggression which takes the form of shaming and guilting, and when this is compounded with the health issues of low T in men it has a tendency of contributing to sociopathy etc. As far as the effects of H…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 03:18 PM
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Take vitamins (good ones) everyday, sleep at least 8 hours and drink plenty of water. Eat a healthy balanced diet with lots of fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:29 AM
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Why can't you find a date? Me personally, I train my body and mind like a 2nd job non-stop in order to reach my absolute athletic peak sometime in my mid 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:27 AM
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Youre not even the same person as who I asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:59 PM
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What are you trying to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:08 PM
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Do you have anything to produce to the conversation or are you just complaining?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:46 PM
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The calculator does not give an option for overweight only obese I never said it does. I said most people would assume that they're the same thing, and that's why there's only 1 box to check. Which is why You are the one with poor reading skills. This statement applies to you. Because you incorrectly applied a false claim to me, and did so quite ignorantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:58 PM
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Your reading comprehension skills are unbelievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:44 PM
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Yeah but that's just because most people when they check "not obese" don't know the difference between overweight or obese so they're just making it simpler. Virtually everyone will check the box for not being overweight or obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:06 PM
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I can't go 6 hours without being unable to think straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:05 PM
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Men aren’t really interested in “love” at all, just respect and adoration from others, i.e I'd argue women by and large aren't interested in love either, but more interested in extraction of resources for offspring propagation. I think there are some, a very small number of men and women who want "love" but the vast majority of the others want some type of transaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:04 PM
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Too many men place their self worth in the crumbling idea of masculinity and women. This is a horrible assertion. First of all: Masculinity is crumbling. That is not a good thing. It's a very very bad thing. Masculinity is a necessary pillar of human life, and our males are being castrated every day in Western society by processed chemical oxidated foods which have little to no nutrient density, and society from a young age oppresses Masculinity systemically through a school system that punishes…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:01 PM
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Pretty funny
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:48 PM
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Bro you're way off and making things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:40 PM
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Because nearly 70% of men are overweight or obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:36 PM
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Richer no way, leans socioeconomically disadvantaged I highly doubt that. Martial arts gyms are notoriously expensive and time consuming.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 01:23 AM
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Yes and you must know that fitter, healthier people are on average richer, more generous, kinder and more benevolent etc
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 11:33 PM
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Oh man that's super in the weeds. There's a ton of things I could argue about the topic, for example the obvious bias towards having broader shoulders and larger hands on average. The bias towards far higher T levels, the bias of higher rate of fitness and health. I can go on. Not trying to be a D suck for the community, but it's basic facts. More humble, more disciplined, more fit, more capable of violence etc. I'm not saying on average fighters are quality people, I'm just saying they're defin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 11:15 PM
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I am also in agreement that alpha women typically tend to be frustrated because the men who are interested in them are not alpha men. Yeah this is another huge thing, in the field of sociology and Evo psyche they largely have compiled data that shows that on average, the more masc a man is the more feminine a woman he's likely to end up with, and the more feminine a man is the more masculine a woman he's likely to end up with. It even has some interesting political realities, in which we can obs…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 11:11 PM
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This isn't actually true. Well, it's kind of not true. By and large of the singles (which are equal by gender obviously) more men are looking for dating yes, however There's way more women looking for serious relationships than men, and conversely There's way more men looking for casual relationships than women. And beyond that, there's more men in the either category than women, but that's a little redundant because there's obviously going to be a massive bias towards the men in the either cate…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 11:02 PM
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I have a strong opinion on this and would love some feedback OP. I'm a pretty manly dude, mostly. I was an grunt in the military for a while, I've got years of experience in martial arts and I'm really strong, I even shoot competitively frequently. I'm very much into that whole culture. Once when I was young, my gf came to me and effectively started bragging about how she had intimidated another woman into moving seats or something. By threatening physical violence. I was instantly turned off by…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:38 PM
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Yeah they're nice, that's mainly because they've been forced to develop a sense of humbleness (because you can't be a fighter and have the same level of delusion most people have about their physical capabilities) and because they've been forced to develop discipline. These women may be quality, but it's not because they're "badass" in the sense most people would use to describe that, instead it's because they've developed certain character traits that most people don't even know exist
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:31 PM
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Which is also precisely what this demographic wants...non committal sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 03:14 AM
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The literal nail on the head brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:51 AM
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Yeah and more into that reality, there's simply a far greater distinction on average between female presentation vs male presentation on dating apps. Women put WAY more effort into their profiles on average. They use makeup, specific angles, and filters to present themselves in a way that's not accurate to reality. This is a large component of the disparity we get in terms of perceived attraction. And there's much more data sets we could go into as well that are interesting on the topic but I di…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:37 AM
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65% of men aren't in a relationship between the ages of 18-30. That is not the same thing as "can't find a partner" More than half of this group claims they don't want to be in a relationship Yall are projecting to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:12 AM
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Most women don't even like men like that According to pew research data, women comprise the majority of single individuals who are searching for a relationship. Furthermore, 91% of bisexual women are in relationships with men and have only ever been with a man. They barely find us attractive This assumption is based on a since retracted OK cupid data set in which they claimed women found 80% of presented profiles unattractive. However, in this study the criteria for what was considered "unattrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 12:50 AM
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You are just incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 02:00 PM
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Someone keeps telling you something and you just decide that it must not be true or real, even though it's logically consistent and it simply must be that the people saying it are crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:19 AM
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It's called sarcasm. That's what being edgy means. Why should I care? Why should you care about the blood, sweat, tears, bone crunching labor and death your ancestors put on the line in order to construct a long lasting genetic lineage of people they love unconditionally? Seriously??
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:37 AM
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What? This is such bullshit. It's more factual but ok Please don't compare men's inability to find a partner equals to women's inability to sustain a good relationship, one sustains a good relationship when you in the first place have one Youre equating sex to a relationship. That's innacurate and especially to a woman it's just never gonna make sense. The way you determine in dating apps that you'll get a good chemistry lasting in a long term relationship is probability, you assume that out of …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:35 AM
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Youre just being edgy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:24 AM
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You owe your ancestors everything. Not understanding that basic fact is extraordinarily narcissistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:20 AM
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Again. Don't care I'll be dead. Why would I care about a "legacy"? No I think it's good that you aren't gonna reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:08 AM
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All that life saving genetic lineage you've cultivated and has been cultivated by your forefathers for MILLIONS OF YEARS to be ended just because you're selfish
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:08 AM
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Chase? No. Do I tell them? Yes. Not sure where you get the chase claim from, sounds like projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 10:13 PM
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And is there any evidence at all of that phenomenon?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 10:00 PM
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And in what way does our society put the power in the hands of males?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:44 PM
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It’s just choosing to recognize your life as a woman is worth more than just being a mom This is just a toxic disgusting thing to say. Being a mother is the most important thing a woman could ever do. Without motherhood your own lineage ends forever. Anything great you ever do with your life dies with you, and nobody is there to continue your legacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:36 PM
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And how would you describe it then, using that definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:14 PM
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The coherent ideology is patriarchy. You might have specific issues with facts justifying it but it is both logical and consistent. Yeah have you seen the definition of patriarchy before? It just means eldest male in a given society has the power and control. No western society works in this way, in fact the power and control is divided among every group. Voters, representatives, and corporate powers. The parts off the red pill that is relevant to this argument is its status as an anti-feminist …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:08 PM
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Feminism has a coherent ideology with regards to distribution of power. No it doesn't. It's a series of lies designed to fool women into thinking they're victims. The wage gap is a lie. The feminist idea that women and men aren't biologically different and are only socialized as such (an idea stemming from the 1960s) is a lie. The distribution of power argument is a lie. Women vote more than men do, and outnumber men as well. Women have all of the power in this country. Women also graduate and g…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:37 PM
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Access to dating apps has in no way shape or form enhanced women's options, in fact female satisfaction with dating apps is even less than men which is why they is dating apps less than men do. Women have more sexual options. Not relationship options/power. Most women struggle to find a boyfriend in the same way incels struggle to find a sexual partner. It's just the way the dating market works. When women say "there's no good men" it means they don't want the bottom 20% of men who are desperate…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:25 PM
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As a man, I can promise you nothing disgusts me more than a woman who demonizes childbirth and raising children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:15 PM
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For sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 08:24 PM
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People demonize what they fear. They fear rejection and embarrassment, and if you want to save your ego from the damage those things do, you demonize them to avoid accountability and consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 04:38 AM
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Youre correct in everything here but TRP and incels go hand in hand but not always. Incels state they’re so ugly, short, and socially awkward that no one wants them because everyone is shallow not sure why they rely so heavily on the most shallow way of meeting someone then… They're scared to socialize and scared of real life. The unfortunate truth of our society as people have gotten more comfortable chasing everything from their own home, on the internet where there's no risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 04:26 AM
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Yes but what your saying isn't true. Pygmies did select for shorter men because shorter men reached maturation faster. Generally it's to do with resources, but in this case it's more to do with disease and the advantages of the immune system that are lended to those of a shorter stature for numerous biological reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 04:11 AM
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Trp is the ultimate simp fest where they just decide to ascribe immense sexual market power to women for some reason
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 02:05 AM
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The red pill is complete fabrication 63% of men in America become fathers and 50% of the celibate men do so by choice. The redpill is based on dating app data. Census dat shows that men have relationships at the same rate as women and sex at the same rate too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 02:04 AM
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Firstly, the assertion that humans are more akin to wolves than to primates like chimpanzees and bonobos seems to overlook vast anthropological and primatological data. Our shared evolutionary lineage with chimpanzees and bonobos is evident in many aspects, from our DNA to our complex social structures. Youre basing that off of DNA and not general social structures. They can synthesize protein from plants, does that mean we can to? The answer is no. We're not as similar as you think. It’s an ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 09:44 PM
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You need to be looking at it from the point of view as biology. I.e. social behavior in our closest primate cousins (like bonobos, chimpanzees) and our common ancestor over a WAY longer timescale. This is extraordinarily devoid of rationale. We and they are not very similar in sexual dimorphism at all. Our male-female sex differences are far less pronounced as would be expected from a persistence hunter gather tribe of humans, as compared to a more sedentary and more herbivistic Troup. This is w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 09:27 PM
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To be fair, women are really dumb when it comes to "strength" no offense. I cant even watch mma with any of my gfs because they just sit there and say stupid stuff the whole time. Or I'll take them to the gym with me and they'll be absolutely mind boggled by the fact that I'm 4x stronger than they are and they'll start getting insecure and upset with themselves (as though I care how much a woman can bench press) Or they'll have innumerable delusions about their own physical capability to defend …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:29 PM
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Youre right, but in many cases as a man you don't discover this until very far into the relationship. We also naturally try to avoid chaos and destroying things especially if we've already invested in it, so it's natural a man would take precautionary measures to avoid damaging his relationship, even based on the flaws of his partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:21 PM
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There's just so much about this that doesn't logically follow. The idea, for example "taller, dominant, high status" men is largely antithetical in reference to historical examples. It's just not how biology works. For example, higher testosterone is associated with shorter stature post development, and later development cycles resulted in taller stature as well. this is especially true when concerning the eras before globalization allowed unlimited access to food Now on the flip side there's of…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:10 PM
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For a strong example, consider the toy preferences of infants. Male infants like wheeled objects as toys while female infants prefer plush dolls. In reference to tall vs short, yeah its a lot more cultural than you think. Well, it is in as much as culture is a product of biology+environment. For example pygmies naturally sexually select for shorter men, because it's superior for survival in that environment. Similarly there have been cultures in history with values that weren't too different, su…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 07:59 PM
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Bro this shit is real. I have like 800ng/dl test ok. I used to have around 400. I made lifestyle changes that altered it significantly. Ever since then my sexual attractions have shifted as well. Not only that, but have you never heard the horror stories of how much guys who take gear change in terms of their sexual attraction? Some guys who take tren or high dose test develop all kinds of crazy attractions especially to fat women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 07:56 PM
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Hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 07:54 PM
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Because women don't bear the responsibility of ensuring the comfort of those around them during social interaction by virtue of being comparatively meek relative to a man. Men are creepy because they have a burden of responsibility and performance. Women are the ones who get to make the labels because they're the ones who are less physically capable and therefore get vulnerability rights born out of human empathetic response.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 07:53 PM
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Well I don't really care about your opinion on the matter. It infuriates me that my sisters have had to deal with unwanted sexual contact because of people like you who would allow it to continue because you don't agree with the response curve. It's not a matter of safety either, it's a matter of self determination. You don't get a free pass from inhibiting peoples freedoms and rights just because you're a woman. That's a shameful way to think. And beyond that, you absolutely shouldn't have to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:55 PM
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If a woman or man swats you on the butt or makes a comment about your body that makes you uncomfortable, kicking their ass is a bit extreme, no? Well if it was unwanted physical contact and you're in any type of fear you should be able to respond however you need to to feel safe However, if you're not in fear after the contact then no you don't necessarily need to become violent. However in the scenarios I described, it's not just a 1 and done ass slap. Hours of unwanted sexual touching and adva…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:44 PM
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A response to unwanted advances should be violence if words don't work. No clue where you got the idea otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:35 PM
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Women and men have the potential to be assholes and the potential to be good. Its not the sole domain of one or the other. I feel like you got the implication from my comment that I would be against this general conclusion. If so, know that's not the case. I was merely trying to expand on your point about sexual assault against males because I don't think it's well understood by most people. But otherwise, yes it's not necessarily gendered. Though the rate of sexual aggression definitely skews w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 06:08 AM
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Women are also the primary perpetrators of physical domestic interpartner violence, and that's with data that heavily skews with a bias against male reporting. Because we know males report domestic violence at a far lower rate than women. You should really try to have some perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 06:01 AM
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Probably about half the time when a girl is saying she's been harassed it's just her whiner instinct going off. No offense. There's a reason women are obsessed with True crime shows, and under the erroneous assumption that their gender is the primary victim of violent crime. It's a genetic trait with higher frequency in women to avoid danger due to having less capability to deal with it. So as a result in many cases when they claim harassment, it's actually just that they felt weird feelings. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 05:44 AM
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Simply because he will be shamed for reporting it, and the girl won't get any consequences anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 05:33 AM
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A man gets assaulted by a woman is ridiculed because how could a woman do that? Isn’t he stronger? Or he must have liked it/isn’t it a fantasy to hook up with the hot teacher etc etc. Just like in the case of rape, it's usually someone you know. I've been sexually assaulted innumerable times by partners. Many men have. The reality of the situation is usually along the lines of the woman wanting to have sex, and the man not wanting to for some myriad of reasons. Could be that he's had sex 7 times…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 05:28 AM
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As for men being SAd and told that, only assholes would say that. Normal people do not. Most people are assholes. I've seen dozens of times this stuff happening. Women are allowed to be highly sexually aggressive and have no repercussions, even in public. I once saw a woman harass a friend of mine at a bar to go back to her place for 2 hours nonstop. Following him around and touching him. Most people just think it's funny. For him, he's not allowed to do anything about it, and for someone like m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 05:18 AM
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that you can’t tell that someone who has a dog filter on Snapchat is using a filter, then maybe you deserve to get tricked 😂 You're correct. I try my best to control it. A lot of guys do. But it's just something that's always in the back of your head and won't go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 08:53 PM
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I just got that idea because it's just not true that all women are attratec to the same 20% men That number is based on dating app data. Women swipe right less often because dating apps are comprised of about 25% women and 75% men. This creates a supply and demand imbalance which results in women having more selective power. So they swipe right less and left more. Women use dating apps less than men do because dating apps are marketed towards casual relationships and they have a very low success…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 07:34 PM
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To be honest I think you just have insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 07:21 PM
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Let me ask you this. What if before he sent you the photo he told you "I don't have any selfies or anything of myself, I only have gym progress photos." And then he sent you the picture. Would that alter your view of his intentions?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 07:15 PM
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Not you. People like you in particular who just complain and blame everyone else for their failures.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:31 PM
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Well to a horny testosterone filled man it's a lot more effective than it might be for you lol. Especially since most men don't even think about the possibility of a filter imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:28 PM
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I probably will regret saying this because people like you will ruin the thing I have going, but if you want to meet nice women irl you do so at church, doing volunteer work, or going to clubs such as runners clubs or book clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:13 PM
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Women do a very good job of hiding their real appearance on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:06 PM
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The actual cause for the discrepancy is 2 fold Firstly, women comprise only like 25% of users on dating apps. This creates a supply and demand discrepancy that favors women Secondly, the nature of dating apps biases towards casual sex, which is something that men will naturally swipe more frequently on than women. Men like casual sex more. If there was a way to make a dating app with equal male-female ratio or a ratio of more women than men, and it also somehow prevented Men from lying about the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:04 PM
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Clown world you live in. Farming is a make dominated field, and always has been. Men work at morgues and with dead bodies all the time, especially as coroner's. You weirdo.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:57 PM
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there is zero comparison in magnitude between the sexual deviance and degeneracy of women and that of men Not true. While men are more likely to take highly aggressive sexual action, women are actually equally if not more likely to be sexually deviant in some way. This has been reflected in some studies where they compared male and female sexual attraction triggers and found that both were similar in terms of variance of sexual attraction triggers, but women were far more likely to lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:56 PM
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Yes you're right. The problem is that these guys can't even do the bare minimum self improvement required to be attractive to ONE woman, so empathy is way far down the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:44 PM
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He was a rare breed. Everyone else just cheated on their gfs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:40 AM
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Nonsense. I knew a guy who was a virgin once when I was in the marine corps. He was religious and never had sex due to his religion. We would go out to clubs and shit all the time, and when women found out he was a virgin they were ALL OVER him trying to sleep with him. (He's a solid 7/10 looks wise in my opinion) He always turned them down because he had a girlfriend back home.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:30 AM
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This is crazy talk. Men dont do the locking down generally speaking, you have it backwards. I would venture to say you probably are coming from a place of anecdote, and I'd be willing to bet your anecdotal experience is in direct contrast to the statistical average because you're circumsntances are more extenuating than you might think. You're probably only engaging with exceptionally trashy men if they're trying to lock you down, and that would indicate you're either meeting them online, in bar…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 04:54 AM
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Your whole argument is self defeating. Most men wont do those things. Then it sounds like women are struggling not because they dont want men, but because they cant get any to do what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 04:18 AM
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That doesn't mean women don't want to date at all. Just that they aren't as into actively dating as men. This can be because of societal preasure that make men be the pursuer or because women are less likely to need to actively want to date. Theres more women seeking committed relationships than men at all times. OP has conflate access to casual dating and sex with commitment. When it comes to marriage, and long term relationships men do not have it harm at all, women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 04:16 AM
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I believe men struggle so much in dating because they no longer bring anything to the table. Men dont struggle in dating. Men struggle to find easy sex. Women are the ones who struggle in dating. In this day and age, men provide no value as a partner to a woman. The reality is that society has involved, but men have not and until they do, they will keep struggling. Here’s why: A complete non-argument. Women provide no value either. Everyone I replaceable in this day and age. We have unlimited ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 04:13 AM
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You a single mother?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:14 PM
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Yeah. Any self respecting man would.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 01:05 PM
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I’ll give you a little free advice. None of this “Chad” Shit matters. Just date who you like and enjoy life! That's why I put it in quotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:53 AM
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Never had it or you'd just be with a girl that doesn't have a kid, because that's what someone with options does. They choose the option that doesn't come with drama and raising another man's child.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:12 AM
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If you're a "chad" you're not dating a single mother, plain and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:09 AM
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Ideally, single mothers have learned from their past mistakes and are now capable of evaluating men based on factors that truly matter. However, it's uncertain whether this conclusion holds true, as statistics indicate that the person most likely to abuse a child is often their stepfather. No. They have lower relationship market value and therefore must date down which results in lower quality men being involved. They lie to themselves about increasing their standards when in reality they can ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:09 AM
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And I'm not going to take the time to unpack here because you don't strike me as the kindof dude who actually wants to. You dont strike me as the kind of dude who wants to. You'd rather throw around baseless insults and feel good about yourself afterwards. Someone with value would provide it instead of being disrespectful and disingenuous. I'm just giving empirical examples of sociological concepts, your experience might have been different and that's ok. 0 of what you said was empirical or empi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:06 AM
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Not more aggressive socially. Just more physically aggressive. I believe current psychological consensus is that men and women are roughly equally aggressive socially, with different methodology behind employment of their aggression.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:59 AM
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Studies often don't have fool proof logic either. Do people who are in happy relationships occupy their time doing surveys and shit, or do they do something else? The question in this case would be more like: "do healthy lesbians have some kind of aversion to doing surveys, and the other groups don't?" If that's the assertion it's pretty baseless as I can't think of a mechanism for it. Lesbians aren't really accepted everywhere, they sure aren't in my country, neither are we recognized all that …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:45 AM
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4 of the personal trainers at my local gym are serially single mid-late 20 somethings who like video games and anime. SOME chronically online people might be LARPing as functional human beings but it's ridiculous to say all incels are sloppy and/or old and/or out of shape. I would theorize it has more to do with 1). Lack of necessity. You literally don't need a man so the standard is automatically higher Men don't need women either. I'm so confused by this logic. Women don't need men so the stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:36 AM
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Uh yeah, that's inductive reasoning. People will often draw from past experience to exemplify what their future experiences will be. The obvious limitation is this: "I have seen 3 squirrels on this road get run over. Therefore I believe the next squirrel I see will get run over!" This is not foolproof logic. It has a decent chance to be wrong. However: "The study I've seen says that 50% of the squirrels that cross this road are run over. Therefore I predict that the next squirrel I see has about…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:18 AM
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Data shows lesbians have sex far less often than straight couples and straigh couples have sex less often than gay men. One time I dated a girl and had sex with her 23 times in 3 days and I swear by the end I was going to die. She ended up breaking up with me after I told her I wasn't gonna go again on the 4th day. Especially since she tried to pull the "I love you" card for the first time ever just so I'd sleep with her again. Obviously this woman was an exception. And exceptions don't make the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 05:49 AM
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I have deleted all forms of dating apps and haven't gone on a date in like a year. I avoid any actionable romantic or sexual situation, and hammer my sex drive down with a number of methods everyday, just so I can function. When I was hooking up with women regularly and online, there were a few times I hooked up with some gross women. We really have no fucking standards. And some guys will get offended and say "hey, maybe you don't, but I DO!" When in reality they're just saying "right now I abs…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 05:45 AM
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What are the core principles of building strength and muscle and creating an aesthetically pleasing body for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:16 PM
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63% of men in the west reproduce. You act like having success with women is difficult or a challenging thing to do. You'd only have that opinion if you're an abject failure sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:00 AM
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It doesnt matter where you live. Every country has religious sects, and does volunteer work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:59 PM
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Where would I even meet women? First I'd like you to recognize that my statements were correct, so perhaps there's some validity to what I'm saying. Anyway, the honest to God "big secret" for meeting quality women external to your life is this: go to church, and do volunteer work. Women do tons of volunteer work and are all over the place when you do that stuff. And women are at church and churches tend to have more tight communities. I'd also recommend yoga and runners clubs, women love those t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:57 PM
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That's because you're doing some stuff very blatantly wrong. You're either inside too much and don't meet women, overweight and bald and weak, or you're a psychopath and it's easily identifiable. If the answer is that you Don't go outside enough, go outside more. If the answer is that you're exceptionally ugly, improve your appearance and date someone who's also a 2/10 If the answer is that you're out of your mind, well you should probably try to learn empathy or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:47 PM
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The manosphere pushes products and services no more then something like the fitness industry. I'm very deep into the fitness industry as a trainer and physio. ITS 90 PERCENT COMPRISED OF LYING GRIFTERS WHO HIDE THE VERY BASIC TRUTHS THAT WILL GET PEOPLE IN SHAPE. The manosphere is absolutely no different. 99% of them lie and grift for money, and almost nobody tells the real truth. The real truth that the 80/20 rule is a lie, that it's actually not that difficult to attract women, that you DONT n…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:46 PM
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Red pill had driven me insane for the past couple years, as it's become so pervasive and invaded the mind of so many men I know. There’s the 80/20 rule for you The hallmark of redpill. A stat grabbed from fucking tinder. Tinder has a bias toward male users and has way less female users, because it doesn't effectively create relationships (what women seek) but it does effectively create casual sex (what men seek) it's users are about 25% female and 75% male. Only 20% of men are swiped right on be…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:42 PM
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No they don't. I'm so confused how you've developed this world view.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 09:59 PM
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I dont understand where this idea that women have too high of standards comes from
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:36 AM
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Dog relax. I'm autistic af and have no issues. If you're somewhat physically attractive it's not "creepy" it's "endearing" Also competence goes way further than awkwardness
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:41 AM
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Yeah thats likely because you meet women online, where a small minority of women (less than 20%) account for the cast majority of promiscuous sexual interaction. For a multitude of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:39 AM
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Women are bullied much harder by other women than men are by other men. Men who bully one another, 1 fight and they're friends for the rest of the time they know eachother. Women, they bully eachother to eliminate competitions self esteem, and a fight or argument of any kind will just make the relationship more brutal and viscious.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:38 AM
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This is actually a genius idea
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 07:46 PM
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All the male gym ‘influencers’ comment sections are absolutely filled with compliments. These aren't sexual comments. They may appear sexual sometimes but those are almost always a joke. The comments are just appreciative of the physique because it's impressive from an art perspective. It's the same as when someone compliments a drawing you made. Then again, these same guys get thousands of DMs from girls everyday
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 07:06 PM
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63% of men are single 34% of women are single Incorrect. Your entire basis for your argument is based on a proveably false statistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 05:52 PM
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Yeah the only one that doesn't line up with census or any of the other data that's been put out, and has been universally questioned because their methodology was to call in during working hours, which skews the results to not survey working men in a relationship, and to survey women who are stay at home wives/mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:22 AM
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Not sure where you're getting your data from buts it's wrong. According to pew the percentage of men looking for "only a committed relationship" is 22%. For women it is 36% The number of men looking for casual dates only is 22%. For women it is 16%. The percentage looking for "either" is 56% vs 48%. And let's be honest, women looking for "either" and men looking for "either" is not the same thing. The majority of the women looking for either are barely going to have sex at all and the majority o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 09:55 AM
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Attribute it to growing up, brain development, post-adolescence or whatever, a man of thirty is generally much more in control of his sexuality than a man of twenty. I'd generally attribute it to fear actually. Men are promiscuous in their 20s, and then that dwindles with age likely because they're afraid of facing the consequences for that promiscuity, again. Perhaps they had STDs, pregnancy and children, or false rape allegations. But I think its a learned experience. I agree that men often gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:58 PM
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Many men get interest from women and still choose not to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:52 PM
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I haven't had sex in over a year. When I was having frequent sex I was miserable, I had a woman falsely accuse me of rape, several women try to trick me into getting them pregnant, and constantly was being dogged by toxic sociopathic nonsense in my DMs or by text message. A lot of men have experienced these things and understand that the risk/=the reward in many cases. As a man you are far more at risk when engaging in sex than ever in human history. Compound this with the fact that men and wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:51 PM
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Kim kardashian is gross looking without the photoshop
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:34 PM
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No, the only data you're referring to that has asserted this is the pew data from (I believe it was last quarter) They skewed the results by phoning residencies to collect the data. And simply put, married and stay at home mothers are more likely to answer the phone than single women, and married and dating men are less likely to answer the phone because they're working or because women tend to answer the phone. All the properly done research clearly shows that men and women engage in similar ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:30 PM
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are right, a smaller number of men does have more relationships, whereas others don't at all. Yeah thats not how census data works. Men and women are in relationships at equal rates, and women are more likely to be looking for a relationship whereas men are more likely to be looking for casual sex. The equal rates of relationships is likely a compromise for the fact that men need to offer commitment for sexual access. A lot more men than women seem to desperately seek relationships That's just c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:27 PM
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That single quarter has been debunked on the sub numerous times, likely because it was done by phoning the house. Who's more likely to answer a house phone, a stay at home wife/mom or a single woman? The answer is the stay at home mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:19 PM
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The truth is, men are more interested in relationships than women are, there are also more available men than women. Both of those statements are false, and the first one is backwards. Women are more interested in relationships, men are more interested in sex. This is precisely why there's a taboo of women asking men to marry them. Census data even proves this. More women than men are looking for serious relationships at all time. Men want sex with no commitment if possible, women want commitmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:17 PM
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From what I've been able to gather here, women disagree and I assume they take some offense to the idea that men don't really choose their partners, most just take what they can get. The same is true for women. Most people settle and never get the perfect partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:13 PM
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We men grow older and more responsible in our twenties as our raging adolescent testosterone levels settle to something bearable. Testosterone levels don't decrease with age until you get to be like 50-70. They only decrease because of unhealthy diet and a tendency to become overweight as we age. We learn to control our swinish tendencies because most of us truly want a long-term monogamous relationship And most will give in to the urge to cheat under the right circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:09 PM
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If a girl looked like Megan Fox and was a virgin dudes like you would jump at the chance to have sex with her. I get what you're arguing, but you're creating an extreme and I find it innacurate. I would never date a woman that looks like Megan fox, and I usually wouldn't want to date a virgin either. I do care about looks, and I do care about body count. If your body count is above a certain number you're disqualified, and the same could be said for your looks. I'd rather date a nice looking sli…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:06 PM
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I think its a girl
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 07:58 PM
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I wouldn't say they do well. But yeah most aren't sex-less
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 07:56 PM
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Modest Already looking at probably only 60% of the female population low n count Depending on your definition, that's probably about half loyal Another 30% removed from the pool kind, honest Let's drop about 60% from the pool not fat. 70% disqualified. Given the lack of overlap you'll experience across these qualifiers, you're probably looking at significantly less than 10% of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 07:54 PM
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Not attracting any woman seems to be the way more common woe. Grifting is very powerful. Even though the census data overwhelmingly shows that men and women engage in relationships at equal rates, redpill men have been relentlessly hammering home the 80/20 rule for years now. A "study" that has been debunked a million different times, but they obviously don't care. The goal is to trick men into thinking they're worthless, and have them pay money for coaching. Of course the coaching must come fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 07:51 PM
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That's not what's happening. OP was explaining their position. Not name calling. And of course respect is earned, nobody respects a 9 year old who calls their mother a bitch. The child must be taught right from wrong. You walk in the opposite direction from spoiled children throwing a tantrum? I would argue that pretty cleanly invalidates your opinion, because you have no skin in the game. Sure you can have your opinion, it's just unlikely to be valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 07:47 PM
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What's actually going on is the complaining men aren't "short" they're "very short" so likely between 5' and 5'5 And they're not just very short. They're also balding, fat, and not particularly competent or wealthy. So these men are quite literally the bottom of the barrel, the bottom 10 percent. (And they still love to call themselves average) and are mad they can't get any attention (keep in mind they only use dating apps) The fact of the matter is that you have to work on yourself, and these …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 07:44 PM
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It makes plenty sense unless you think one gender is entitled to introductions and approaches. Nobody said entitled. Women are just biologically designed to be the gender that is approached. They're the male bird that is very colorful and displays their sexuality in order to attract a mate. There's zero reason why the same advice men receive -broaden the social circle - shouldn't apply to women. There's actually a ton of reasons women may not want a large social circle. For 1, excessive numbers …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:09 AM
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I think your logic is fallable. I am a male. I much prefer to be approached by a woman than I do prefer to do the approaching. (Fortunately this is mitigated because women will smile and wave and do that eye blink thing when they want to be approached) But the reason is, and I'm not trying to sound cool as this is my very real problem, I don't want to intimidate them. And it can obviously be very intimidating to have a guy who's much bigger and stronger than you coming up and talking to you. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 04:34 PM
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That logic doesn't make any sense. The social circle is not limited to just who you know, and women much prefer to be introduced to a man through a female friend than to meet him and then become friends and then begin a romantic relationship. (Keep in mind people on average only have around 10 friends.) Whereas males are fine having multiple female friends that they may have an opportunity to have sex with at a given time. Women want 1 man to be in a relationship with, men want a few women to ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 04:22 PM
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Social circles are rapidly shrinking, and the vast majority of dating is done online.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 03:59 PM
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They do. If you look at the rate of exertion (Time investment) women put into their social circle, it's much higher than men. Despite this men and women tend to average the same number of close friends and acquaintances. Regardless, women prefer to select from their social circle for a mate, rather than some stranger. However men AND women have very rapidly shrinking social circles, if you look at the data. Which isn't very good for female selection methodology.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 03:59 PM
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Majority of dating is done online. Of the rare times relationships or sex is initiated in person, it's usually done at a bar/club whatever. This is obviously because online is easier, there's no punishment for rejection (like public emberassment) and you have access to more people from which you can select, and you can select with a full summary in mind before "shooting your shot" Even women approach men online. That's how low risk it is. Keep in mind when I say online, I'm not talking about dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 03:56 PM
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Please prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 01:47 AM
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According to the math performed by the comment above, you're obviously wrong. Furthermore, if you want the actual data the answer is more like 4-14 sexual partners, depending on the area. Regardless the fact that you're hooking up 1 time per year over 20 years with 2/10s isn't impressing anyone, redditor.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 01:45 AM
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When you spend a lot of time in relationships you may not have one night stands. In fact most guys don't have one night stands, they hook up with the same girl relatively frequently over a really long period of time. Also nobody is impressed by what you're trying to do here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 11:57 PM
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Well its a pervasive problem across the entire western world. So unless your country is starving or Asian you probably have an obesity problem too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 01:45 PM
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yet I've never seen such a person speak for themselves. Go outside Even if this person exists, you're an outsider looking in, how do you know that your brother's friend would agree with your assessment? If you read what I said, it said "my brother" not my brothers friend. Guess how I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 01:35 PM
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You're noticing only the badly done ones. Incorrect. You'll notice I said "most" not all. Idk how you made this conflation. We're not delusional enough to say most western women look good. Because they don't. Your average woman is 40lbs overweight. even some hitting the gym By far the most important thing. watching your calories is pretty common, Obviously not lol. lowkey tasteful cosmetic procedures No, not really. It's exceedingly rare that a cosmetic procedure makes someone look better. Argua…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 01:33 PM
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They become too skinny/are too obsessed with losing all their fat, are too scared to build muscle, dress too revealing (appeals to men wanting to bone you not to finding a good man who will commit) and are far too willing to get lip filler, BBL, etc which usually just makes you look far worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 08:18 AM
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not an interesting number though. because most people get into an LTR and get off the apps. Completely incorrect. Only about 12% of users ever find a long term relationship and the vast majority of those fail. Part of the reason people, especially women, stop using the app. About half of those under 30 (53%) report having ever used a dating site or app Ever used/=continuously using. Most stop using it after they find no success. However meeting on social media has a lot higher success rate, thus…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 06:00 AM
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it's 30% who have used a dating app before. but that's including people over 60. I said use not have used. 30% have EVER used, makes me even more right. Most women have never even used the damn things. I couldn't be more blatantly correct to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 05:04 AM
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You conflate online with dating apps. Most of the time when people meet online it's through Instagram, Facebook, snapchat whatever. Not tinder or any other dating app. (Says a lot about their business model)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 04:43 AM
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being honest means understanding that some 5'4" men are much better looking than other 5'4" men But if you want to be attractive it's not hard for 95% of men. 95% would be attractive if they just diet and train. but that overall, (like one woman admitted today) being 5'4" does make it harder for you. Sure, but the Idea they won't get play is dumb, especially when some women quite literally prefer men their height.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 04:05 AM
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You are sick
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 04:04 AM
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so i'm ruling out men who put in zero effort. The idea that any man is at the top of the dating market with no effort is absurd. but that's only SOME of the men out there. The vast majority. i'm talking about wearing sweats every day vs. putting on a pair of jeans. i'm not talking about t-shirt vs designer fashion. I could go outside in basketball shorts and a sweatshirt right now and hit on a number of women and get them to go on a date with me. Women just don't care about a man's fashion as lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 04:03 AM
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What kind of response is this. How old are you? Very gross....
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:33 AM
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Most women who looks max do it all wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:30 AM
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Reminds me of my days in Thailand. These girls would have sex with you, but every step of the way they'd blatantly ask for money. Before you get undressed, while getting undressed, during sex, after sex. The real kicker is that they'd still have sex with you even if you didn't pay them, and most of the time they'd be asking for what's equivalent to a few cents or dollars. Super strange culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:30 AM
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A woman who's dealing in romance with a man who's feminine is going to be disgusted. Obviously. I've been on dates with women who were acting masculine. Know what it did to me? Made me grossed out and treat them very differently. It's a natural response. And sorry bro, but Norah with her whopping 40ng/dl Test levels isn't gonna fool anyone while standing next to a bunch of men sitting pretty at 500ng/dl. Women can sense it, literally, when dealing with feminine men. Or in this case, a literal wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:26 AM
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Never heard this argument, but it makes sense. Never seen a trans person in my life that was passable
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:23 AM
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Well if a 5'4 man can find success anyone else complaining is probably doing so because they haven't worked on self improvement, let's be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:22 AM
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has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion Of course it does. Your entire argument is predicated around the idea that plenty of men put a ton of effort into dating and sex. And yet compared to women, they don't. It's like saying "oh women are so physically strong" Um no they're not. And neither do any men who put effort into dating end up having no success. plenty of guys aren't doing anything but date women and have long term relationships. It's literally so easy to be in a long term rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:21 AM
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My brother's 5'4 has sex whenever he feels like
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:09 AM
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No, it doesn't. I'm short and literally never have issues attracting women. What's your excuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:08 AM
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i mean, if you can't get laid but put in a huge amount of effort, it kinda makes you an expert on what women want. Women put significantly more effort into finding partners on average than men do. Saying this as a man, because it doesn't take much research to find out how blatantly true it is. compare that to a guy that put in zero effort and gets laid infrequently, but enough that they never need to question or observe anything. Rare that any man gets laid with no effort. There are two types of…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:04 AM
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That's not "bell curve theory" it's a loose and incorrect explanation of the dunning Krueger effect, and that theory would completely dismantle your own argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:02 AM
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20/80 is easily debunked by census and data on break ups. You're just likely below average. Improve and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:00 AM
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Less than 20% of women even use dating apps, and half of the ones that do don't even use it with the intention of dating, only for external validation of their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:58 AM
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That's why they all have sex with men in between relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:56 AM
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You can change your genes. You can be different. Stop being like this. Change.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:55 AM
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Weak men given the respect and money of weaker make for some of the most useless bottom feeders in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:54 AM
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The guy who constantly preaches that the pillars of masculinity are: Physical strength (despite being a novice lifter after lifting for years) Competence (has no idea how to hold a gun, the terminology that applies to them, how to read data, or interpret his own holy text) Wealth (begs for money for a living???) Yeah if anyone respects I'm they're severely misguided
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:53 AM
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Thats not polyamory. That's serial monogamy which is largelybthe status quo in human society, except in cases where a single relationship can function on the first try (which is rare for a variety of reasons.) Polyamory, the practice of having multiple partners simulatenously, (especially for women) was historically nearly non-existant. At absolute most happened in less than 10% of cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:14 AM
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https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0019066 "This, combined with the low prevalence of polygyny as the ancestral human state, suggests that there was a reasonable level of evenness to mate exchanges (low reproductive skew)." "the 85% prevalence of arranged marriages across hunter-gatherer societies" Arranged marriages at 85% rate, and less than 20% of men were ever married polygynously. And the vast majority of ANY polygamy that EVER happened in human history of hun…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:00 AM
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That's not only not true, it's the exact opposite of what's actually true. All archeological evidence, fossil records and everything in between clearly shows that humans were monogamous before agriculture, sometimes serial monogamous but overwhelmingly they were monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:45 PM
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Humans are evolutionarily serial monogomist by their very nature. It doesn't really matter what you see, that simple biology isn't going to change anytime soon
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:42 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:58 PM
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Most people will never get extremely fit. That's their fault most people will never stay consistent long enough Their fault nor have the genetics for it Most people do have the genetics to gain a minimum of 30lbs of muscle.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 08:48 AM
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You must be incompetent then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 08:42 AM
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Yep!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 06:16 AM
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but you lack the few brain cells required for the most basic abstract thinking. No its just dumb and serves no purpose. Like someone else I know... You can't tell me you can't imagine Tenshin Nasukawa, Who??? Androgynous just means possessing both masculine and feminine traits It means you can't tell if they're male or female. It doesn't exist you weirdo. We were talking about attractiveness just a second ago. I never said being attractive to the opposite sex automatically grants you a job and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 06:10 AM
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They do lots of wrong. They propagate domestic violence at a higher rate, they have caused the false rape accusation rate to be equivalent to the conviction rate, with false accusations of rape being as high as 10x more likely than the 2nd most common false accusation, they break up families with an 80% rate of initiating divorce, they are the main gender of thieves in terms of crime, they use subversive tactics oftentimes to cause social damage to people. But you filling to do the bare minimum …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:13 AM
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If you can't figure out how to not be poor and unhealthy and ugly, that's because you're incompetent. Women don't like incompetent men...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 01:52 AM
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That's not the problem, you are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 01:51 AM
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How handsome is his face? Looks as good as most men would if they weren't on average 50lbs overweight, and 20lbs under muscled. How rich is he? 60k per year. How good is his game? Pretty good tbh. But what is game at the end of the day? Mostly just lying about commitment and making yourself look competent. What kind of physique does he have? Hes extremely fit. Something everyone can do, but youre all just too lazy to do it. Goes back to my self improvement argument. Please tell him to start a Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 09:30 PM
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I have a friend who's 5'7 who girls drive hours to give him free food, massages and more. He pretty much runs a harem by manipulating women into doing things for him. We using anecdotes to make the rule or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 08:43 PM
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So you were told....to not have sex until marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 07:45 PM
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A lot of it is due to men dying in war.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 07:14 PM
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And now EVERYONE thrives and reproduces because people aren't dying due to war disease and famine like they used, because technology has progresses to the point that the majority of the earth exists in abundance of resources to combat these issues. In other words there is NO natural selection happening and you're completely wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 07:11 PM
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This is historically anomalous, since pre 20th century class and very likely IQ correlated with TFR. Because historically the poor and low class people who had children would die off at much greater rates due to bottleneck events. With no bottleneck events in current history (war, disease, famine related deaths are at an all time low by A LOT) the poor people who have always reproduced, can now do so consequence free.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 07:09 PM
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The only people who consistently pick bad partners to reproduce with are the lower class for obvious reasons. The lower class has far more children on average than the other classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 07:06 PM
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Almost like you shouldn't be having sex if you can't afford a car to guy buy condoms....again proving that it's the dumb ones making dumb decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 07:01 PM
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Yes, people are just born with medical knowledge and sex education. Lol By the time you're 18 if you dont know how sex and pregnancy works, you're just dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:59 PM
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There's a massive difference between back then and now. It's called bottleneck events. Historically, war, disease, famine, and poverty KILLED all the low IQ weaker people. The rate at which human populations gained was much lower as a result. But as technology has become more advanced, these problems, these bottleneck events have gone away. As a result, even to this day you have the absolute lowest IQ, most culturally abhorrent societies dominating the world in terms of population metrics. India…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:56 PM
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Statistically men and women are single at the same rate. You're a male, so algorithms have a vested interest in keeping you looking at things that will make you believe you have no opportunities with women because it keeps you coming back to their app to complain and engaging. Dating apps have a business model designed to prey upon men for money for the same reason. If you're claiming that women aren't lonely and struggling just like men are, you'd be wrong. The reality is that they are and do, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:14 PM
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Youre incorrect and delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:01 PM
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Statistics don't reflect that at all. In fact men on average have slightly more friends than women. Not only that, but when looking at who men vs women are likely to rely on for support, men are more likely to rely on their friends and family and women are more likely to rely on their spouse. Your worldview is messed bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:00 PM
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They're better than you think, though I don't recommend it. Had many times where in my discord servers girls would hit me up trying to link up. Something about the social proof nature of it I think. I always said no though because as you might expect, people who spend time trying to date people on discord are fucking weird. People who use discord are fucking weird. I'm weird. Fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 05:18 AM
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Most young women are perfectly fine being single most of the time You know nothing about female nature if you really think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 05:14 AM
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and you had a severe need for human connection and touch and to satiate your sexual desire, you’d consider paying You'd think that same person might consider self improvement, and creating a social circle. But generally, no, they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 05:12 AM
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Almost like humans have a 50/50 ratio of genders and evolution is so desperate to have that stay the case that 104 men are born for every 100 women... Redpillers are so delusional it boggles the mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 03:12 AM
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If we reversed genders I'd still tell a bitch to stop passing on idiot genes Youre conflating dating with passing on genes. Nobody said anything about having children. The discussion was about withholding sex from a woman. Your argument is about selecting better, but ignores that selection requires time to get to know someone. Obviously. I don't see emotional manipulation and ill intent in a lot of people You'd be wrong. The dating "market" is brutal and filled with people who want to use you to…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 11:14 PM
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Often times, yeah. They're not handsome tall or even in shape. Same planet or no? I'm on earth wbu
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 06:48 PM
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Bingo. Commitment=responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 06:39 PM
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Do you see how they told you the lack of empathy is an issue, and you continued to finesse the situation until you could blame them? You have no idea the littany of social issues that come with dealing with women as a man. So don't sit here and pretend you have all the answer, or that you know anything about the reality of why people engage in manipulative behaviors and it's all linked to this ONE TRAIT that we should just know before even talking to someone. You sound ridiculous I know 3 women …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 06:35 PM
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I've done this without a condom. "Why didn't you finish?" "Ah i did, I don't know I guess I'm just shooting blanks right now"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 06:28 PM
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I've had to do this many times. It doesn't bother me at all. But yeah, after a long day (or even after having sex 3 times that day) I'm not really able to enjoy doing more. But I care a lot about the sexual satisfaction of who I'm with, so even when I can't get it up I will go down on her or do whatever I have to do. But I have to be honest with you. and your partner is not forcing, coercing I've been coerced many times when I didn't really want o have sex. And that's pretty much happened to any…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 06:27 PM
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It's like you said in another comment - if men worked to be attractive in the same way women do, it just wouldn't work out as well. That's got nothing to do with the statement that "Women aren't more attractive because they work more on their attractiveness." Women are visually attracted to men who spend more time on their appearance. They merely arent attracted to the traits of a man that obsesses over his appearance. However you could easily hide those traits, something women do all the time a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 05:43 PM
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Correct. A large component of female attraction, is actually somewhat narcissistic. Women want to be the pretty one, and they want the man to find them sexually attractive visually. They want to put time in their appearance and get recognized for it. That actually gets them off. But a woman doesn't want to be with a woman, she wants to be with a man. (This is because a woman's main agency is her sexual attraction to men, and so when a man doesn't find her attractive it's a turn off in the sense …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 01:57 AM
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Men have access to the exact same tools women do. That's why actors wear makeup, and use lighting and angle tricks in movies. The simple reality is that men choose not to use these methods, despite the advantages it would provide them, because men feel that it is feminine to do so (which it is) and because they know intrinsically they can compensate their looks with something far more important in the eyes of a woman anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 01:44 AM
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https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/universal-desire-men-and-women-respond-identically-to-erotic-images/ The only studies this article links disprove your point completely and show a different response to visual stimuli based on gender. The rest of the data isn't linked and this isn't a real source to begin with. It's an opinion piece from a feaux scientific article.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:48 AM
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You think it's depressing because you view sexual attraction from a male perspective. You are not a woman. Women are women. They have a different type of sexual attraction to some degree. They develop sexual attraction through discovering if the man has the traits she desires. Competence, security, provisioning. That is what she likes. It's not that "you had to grow on her" it's that she discovered the things she likes and is now desiring to mate with you. On the flip side you see women and if t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:21 AM
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I'd be curious to see this study, not that It would change my mind. You can bring a woman to orgasm (pretty easily) by just physically stimulating her down there (trying not to be vulgar) while you talk dirty to her in her ear, and her eyes are closed. Good luck ever bringing a dude to orgasm while his eyes are closed with a hand job just by dirty talking to him. He will want to open his eyes loom at the girl and ideally have intercourse. To say women and men are equally visual with regards to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:16 AM
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Then you could say that irl there are plenty of average or below average men in relationships. And that's where my confusion comes in. Why? ....because women care more about your ability to provide, protect, and be secure than they do your looks. If you're hot, she might have sex with you but if you aren't a good future match she will cut her losses when she can sense that you won't committ to her. She will find a man that will committ, with some physical attraction standards thrown in. Usually.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:11 AM
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a lot of studies on dating apps states the same, some even claim it's 95-5 This isn't true. There's almost no studies conducted by dating apps and of the ones that exist they do not make this claim in the slightest. A lot of women also claim women are more beautiful than men on average. The insinuation is that they're not, because men and women by definition must average out to the same. They don't. Women spend SIGNIFICANTLY more time on their appearance than men. They wear makeup which changes …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:10 AM
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True on the running part lmao. Would be crazy to try and stop someone there, but at the grocery store or gym it's a semi-viable option. I highly doubt anyone will become aggressive with you or rude for saying hello, and if they do then screw him anyway!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 07:43 PM
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I have this theory on why online dating fails a lot. It's because dating apps have a vested interest in maintaining a 30-70 ratio of men to women so men will pay money. As everyone is well aware, before this business model was applied dating apps were much more effective for less attractive men to be able to get attention. Instagram is the worlds largest dating app. Pretty much proves the reason why tinder doesn't work very well. The issue isn't online dating its the business model. Instagram ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:02 PM
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As a nerdy introverted guy who stays at home almost exclusively, I would say if you want to find one go to the grocery store (we are forced to go there for food and shopping. I just keep my headphones in so people don't try to talk to me) and the gym. You also may get lucky and see one running down the street for a jog. Otherwise I think you'd have to go house to house lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:55 PM
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The only way to compensate for having autism is by being eye candy When you're outgoing and ugly it's "creepy" If you are unattractive + autistic there is no hope. Unattracitve + neurotypical people can still ahve a chance coz they can maintain employment, friends, etc. and just maximise the benefits of the red pill. Being autistic doesn't limit your ability to have a job and friends. Only around like 15% of men are attractive which applies to autistic people to. I'd like to see where you got th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 05:53 PM
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I'm pretty fucking autistic and women don't seem to dislike me. Though the things I hyper fixate on may be kind of masculine, which is the default thing women like. So I don't think being weird is an issue. Besides when you look either cute, hot, or good being socially awkward is endearing. In fact some of the most autistic guys I know women obsess over. I really don't see where you're coming from, unless you're the type of guy to be obsessed with math and scared of socializing then yeah I could…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 07:53 AM
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If that's what you want to do go for it. Most women generally don't like that approach though so it's not a 1 size fits all solution. Really only works for women who like to be alone
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:04 AM
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ETA: your first source isn’t helpful because it doesn’t compare rates across sexual orientation. It actually does mention briefly that rates of violence are similar in lesbian vs heterosexual relationships, rather than making a claim lesbians have more violent relationships You realize you can Acquire data from multiple sources and they're 100% effective metrics assuming the methodology is standard right? Additionally, the terminology they use is irrelevant. "Similar" The rates are statistically…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:52 PM
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I’m not ignoring anything. Of course women were the primary perpetrators of violence in the cases of heterosexual men who experienced violence, just as men were the primary perpetrators of violence in the cases of heterosexual women who experienced violence: Yo that is not at all what that study says. And I can tell from how quickly you're responding you didn't read it. Women are the primary perpetrators of IPV on the whole. Not by much, but then again that's with men underreporting. It addresse…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:34 PM
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What you're actually saying is "I want a man to take initiative and do all of the work in the bedroom. But when he fails to meet my expectations I want to put all of the responsibility on his shoulders despite the fact that I did not make any effort to do a fair share"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:00 PM
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The study notes that, out of those 43.8%, two thirds (67.4%) reported exclusively female perpetrators. The other third reported at least one perpetrator being male, however the study made no distinction between victims who experienced violence from male perpetrators only and those who reported both male and female perpetrators. Youre ignoring that women were the primary perpetrators of domestic violence in heterosexual relationship, and that gay men had the lowest rate of domestic violence. Your…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 06:58 PM
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Would you care to prove that? You realize that's not the only study that makes this conclusion right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 06:17 PM
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Lesbians are also significantly more dominant than heterosexual women, and more likely to try and get themselves off than straight women are. Which is part of the reason they have the highest rate of domestic violence by far.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 05:33 PM
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there really are plenty of men out there who just don’t seem to want to or particularly care about whether their female partner enjoys themselves. Thats true, but it's not really the reason for the orgasm difference in women and men. And furthermore, statically surveys show that upwards of 90% of men care about their partner achieving orgasm. In reality, the main reason women may not achieve oragsm during sex is more to do with themselves. The vast majority of sexual action in the bedroom is ini…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 05:28 PM
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Gross
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 09:27 PM
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There's not
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 09:25 PM
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He married his cousin.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 09:24 PM
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Sweetheart Wtf is wrong with you? I’m a patent attorney, I’m 6’0”, I work out regularly…so I’m 215 but a lean 215 my undergraduate is in electrical engineering and then I went to law school… Youre still proving me right. All of this and you still have poor results in the dating world. Perhaps women care more about the way you act than you're willing to admit. I work from home writing patent applications and getting into pissing matches with the patent office…I’ve had several girlfriends, a marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 09:04 PM
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The law of supply and demand is then not consistent with what you are advocating… Yes it is on the one hand you state that women choose among a much wider set of factors than men…on the other hand you agree that the same 20% of men are being selected… I never agreed to that, I said it takes place on DATING APPS, which is not representative of the actual real world. women were choosing among a varied set of variables that wasn’t based on attraction then why do the same guys get picked… It's not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 09:00 PM
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It’s true that dating apps are only populated by 30% female but that doesn’t explain why those 30% consistently choose the top 20% of men…. Yes it does. That's how supply and demand works to the damn letter when you calculate it. people go on more than one date on apps and women keep choosing the same men….consistently…women are much more choosy in mate selection than men… You just fabricated that. There's 0 evidence to back it and you're just making stuff up. I hope you can agree that that is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 08:21 PM
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It’s actually evolutionary psychology No its not has been shown to be true statistical analysis of female behavior on dating apps. 20% of the men get 80% of the action…. Time to dismantle this. First of all, dating apps are populated by a 30% female to 70% male ratio (as of several years ago and has likely gotten worse since then) This is because dating apps aren't conducive to female dating success so they overwhelmingly choose not to use them. Women look for long term relationships and largely…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:30 PM
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Idk why, very consistently, there's just always this idea that men don't have sex. Or average men don't. It's literally not true People are so weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 06:59 PM
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Maybe…but when a decent looking man’s standards are a decent looking woman and when a decent looking woman’s standards are a man that is a 9 or a 10, then it’s not the guy that is delusional… Women care less about looks, more about security, competence, and commitment. Youre also reciting fabricated red pill ideology. The 80/20 thing has been debunked so many different ways. The reason men don't get sex is usually because women can sense they're unwilling to committ and/or they're seen as unable…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 06:57 PM
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Women who claim that they like "shy guys" are almost universally speaking of tall, dark, and handsome guys with a lot of mystique who only make up a small % of introverts and shy guys out there. The same can be said of extroverted men. That's actually exactly where the whole "creepy guy approached me for my number" vs "really hot Chad approached me for my number" idea comes from. Being an extrovert is much more valuable as a man. You're more likely to have a lot of friends which gives you social…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 06:32 PM
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Youre gonna have to make an actual argument if you want to be right that badly. You were proven wrong about several things and no amount of goal post moving will change that. What did you take 1 semester of statistics in college and feel like a brain lord now? Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 06:22 PM
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No reply. Not surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 06:20 PM
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says nothing about how the number of sexual partners affects a woman's ability to be an "effective" mother or wife, or her ability to bond (and you still haven't even defined what you mean by "effective"). I never claimed this article did. But if you dont think depression, anxiety and substance abuse are markers for a bad parent then I feel sorry for you. Conscientiousness is negatively correlated while extraversion is positively coordinated. I don't think it's clear that withdrawn, socially iso…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:57 PM
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How's he finding out? You should be able to hide that. I know it's wrong but we gotta do what we gotta do
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 01:30 PM
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That’s not an internet buzz word lol. I majored in psych and have taken many research methodology courses. I know what I’m talking about bro. Well then you should know appealing to authority will get you nowhere. We are talking about causation, and correlation =\= causation is the entire point. No, we're not and have never been talking about causation in the slightest. I've explained exactly how that's the case several times. Your studies say that promiscuity is correlated with things like cheat…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:50 AM
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I always assumed that modern dating culture was more or less equally horrible in all developed Western countries, but I guess not? Well based on what some others have said they didn't have this experience in Australia. But when I mentioned it was in Darwin they changed their tune to "oh that's why" So I would say this must be a very nuanced topic, and regionally dependent. Probably. I always kind of assumed that it was because I'm a white guy and these women associated whiteness with wealth and …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:47 AM
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Maybe clarify where you think I misunderstood you instead of presenting nothing but stupidity. The part where you said "Doubt this. Most do not care." This presumes, first of all, that I was stating men care about a woman's income. Never said that. What I said was: if a man I presented with 2 women as potential mates, and they're completely identical, with the exception of the one on the left making 60k a year and the one on the right making 100k a year, he's obviously going to select the one on…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:27 AM
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Because you got the exact wrong thing from my comment. If you at all care enough to comment you should at least bother to actually read what you're responding to rather than fabricating strawman arguments centered around 1 tiny part of the post. In other words, if you dont like being told to learn to read, maybe you should try to properly construct your opponents argument instead of making one up
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:04 AM
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Doubt this. Most do not care. Love should not be about money. Oh really. So you propose most men would select the woman on the left, identical in every way except with the exception that she makes less money? Learn to read dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:56 AM
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You sound all smart with your paragraphs and big words but literally any research methodology or any scientist or engineer anywhere will tell you that it is literally 101 that you can’t draw conclusions from a correlative study. ....no they won't. They'll literally tell you it's a good way to find correlations. You have no idea what you're talking about. Nobody is talking about causation I the slightest. Causation isn't even part of this discussion, as it's unrelated to mate selection. Did you k…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 12:09 AM
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No this is patently false. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/20/study-men-get-more-stressed-when-their-wives-make-more-money.html tons of studies showing they dont like high earning women. First of all, don't link CNBC.com articles to me like that's at all an accurate, unbiased, or reasonable source of information. That's absurd. Link an actual study like a real human, so we can interpret data without being concerned about the disgusting bias the news puts into everything when they write opinion piec…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 10:32 PM
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Even in this sub most people aren't saying they want a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 07:29 PM
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I'm simply saying that just because you don't want to date someone, doesn't mean it has to be linked to your own insecurities. Just as you wouldn't date a 7 ft tall woman, I'd assume it's not because she wouldn't make you feel like less of a man, but it's more because of a much larger swath of reasons related to sexual selection and mate selection in humans. But hey, you could also pretend that you would totally marry a 7 foot tall woman, that works too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 07:28 PM
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Thats great friend. But in the real world, correlation drives everything real humans do. It's called pattern recognition, and it's a 100% necessary component of survival and sexual selection. I can promise you there is a strong correlation between number of murders a man commits and number of murders he is likely to commit after the first X number. "The first X number of murders may statistically correlate to the number of X murders he will commit afterwards, but correlation does not=causation!"…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 07:25 PM
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Hopefully you don't need to see the data on the increase chances of STIs of all kinds, so we'll skip over that one. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26445346/ Here's a study finding negative psychological effects on people who frequently engaged in casual sex in college https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18444064/ This one finds a correlation between lack of conciountiousness and engaging in casual sex, and did so while controlling for substance abuse. What's interesting about that is substance abus…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 07:21 PM
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That's a contradictory statement. You cannot not care about someones income and say, ok they need to be able to support their half and also maybe mine too. Your saying they desire equal to or possibly more than the woman's income, which is what I am saying too No its not. Because I said "Women don't care necessarily as long as qualifier is met" That just means a woman won't generally care about the difference between a man who makes 60k a year (enough to support a family) and 100k a year (enough…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 06:48 PM
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You are looking at this from across all professions, meaning you are comparing executives, i bankers, engineers, nurses, etc. This is the same flaw feminists create with the wage gap argument. No, it's not the same flaw because the premise is different. When referencing the wage gap, feminists are claiming women make less money for the same work. My argument is the exact opposite. Women make less money on AVERAGE, which is the literal only important component when talking about the widestanding …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 06:40 PM
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It's more of a fallacy of correlation not equaling causation. Women don't generally care about how much a man makes necessarily, that is as long as he can support himself and potentially her. In reality they care more about the traits that are common in wealthy men. Assertiveness, outgoing, intelligence, physical attractiveness etc. Women aren't wetting their panties to marry Sam Smith or that old town road guy, but they will for someone like that a prime Brad Pitt or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 06:00 PM
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The issue isn't that the data about singleness is wrong, it's that you're attributing it to some nonsense. You think the rise of singleness on the west is a product of women selecting men who are rich, and rich men selecting women who are attractive which is a self defeating paradox. When in reality, rate of singleness is linked directly to wealth inequality. It's been that way since the dawn of history. As wealth inequality rises, people get married less and have less children because they can'…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 05:55 PM
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Data reflects that men care about women's body counts a lot. What you're saying is just absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 05:35 PM
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Would you date a woman who's 7 foot tall?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 05:34 PM
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Not a redpiller... But judging women on their sexual history is a very obviously necessary component of trying to find a woman that is capable of a long term relationship/marriage/children. There are numerous studies that directly link number of sexual partners to inability to bond and be an otherwise effective mother/wife. You'd do a lot better to start caring about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 05:33 PM
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Smart decision making on your part. As I've gained experience (as a man) I've started selecting women I date based on how long they want to wait to have sex. Surprise surprise, the longer a woman wants to wait the more emotionally stable and kind she tends to be. Good idea to wait imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 05:10 PM
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I don't see why companionship is so much more important than sex. In general, I don't see why as a society we act like sex is not that important for relationships. For a woman companionship is more important than sex in many ways. flashback to 20,000 years ago Youre a woman. A male of the tribe is making sexual advances on you. You, being a female, decide to have sex. You get pregnant. Man leaves, uninterested in helping you raise or birth the child. Woman gives birth, and her and her baby starv…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 05:08 PM
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Have you been to New York? It's genuinely awful. It's incredibly dirty and people are very rude and there's crime everywhere. I don't even like visiting. If I visit a place I like to go somewhere clean and safe like Seoul
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 09:08 PM
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Alabama and Tennessee are actually both really nice places to be honest. Except for Memphis.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 09:01 PM
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I was doing a rotation through with the US marine corps. It's pretty much part of some greater excercise to flex on China that the US and Australia do together to try and establish dominance over the pacific. Big old dick measuring contest. Anyway I stayed on an airforce base while I was there and went around every weekend going to crocodile places and bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 08:58 PM
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Well when I went to Australia that wasn't my experience. That was in Darwin, but its a whole country maybe there's different standards in certain places
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 08:34 PM
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But that's a "No True Scotsman" fallacy. You don't get to exclude people who have otherwise been part of the group the moment they do something bad. Doesn't really matter to be honest. I addressed the idea as though it was real anyway. But that is argued here. Perhaps not blue pill specifically, but feminism, absolutely. And does it get pushback?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 05:42 PM
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I'm confused. Let me qualify first by saying I'm not a redpiller. But, generally, redpill is an ideology that advocates manipulation tactics to acquire sex from women above all and is also about ways to be "competitive" as a man. That's my understanding. So a redpiller wouldn't be the one going on a shooting spree, correct? It would be someone who isnt getting what they want, like an incel. Incels are blackpillers who think they have no avenue to find sexual success in life. Regardless, you're p…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:57 PM
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Yeah so is everything. This entire subreddit for example is 90% people making posts so they can cope about a bad experience they had.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:44 PM
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It is a real thing in Australia. They have different social norms, generally the men aren't as "nice" as in the US. In America guys pay for dates, drinks, etc. Not the case on Australia
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:42 PM
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I remember when I went to Australia. The women were far kinder than in America and way less entitled. Many times in the US a girl has gotten mad at me for not paying for her food or not driving her around. In Australia never had any of those experiences. Highly recommend.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:39 PM
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I like that even when you use your sources the youngest you can come up with is "late teens" which is also not pedophilia. Link the study you're referencing, I'd love to see it. Even though all meta analysis disagrees with you, and you're still wrong even when using your own premise which is evidently reliant on only a single study, you still assert absurd accusations. You think you know what men like, but I think I know what you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 11:57 PM
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I dont really care what you think you're hearing. There's data on the topic, and majority of all anecdotes would disagree with your most likely fabricated one anyway. Men overwhelmingly prefer women in the mid-20s according to all data. If you think that's pedophilia I worry greatly for your ability to adjust as an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 11:19 PM
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Not only is this innacurate, it's a coping mechanism to try and combat the reality of what the above commenter said.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 11:13 PM
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Idk what you're talking about. Social stigma extends well into the law, and you'd understand that if you'd ever been to court as a man. Risking pregnancy is an intrinsic consequence for women too, it's just far more rooted in biology. Whatever you're trying to say it's just not computing. Because you're trying to pretend like casual sex just exists in a vacuum. It doesn't. Casual sex has a laundry list of consequences for both genders, and this weird idea you're putting forth that men somehow ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 05:41 AM
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Risking pregnancy is an intrinsic component of casual sex. Not only is it intrinsic, it's by far the most important component.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 05:28 AM
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Men who have casual sex risk pregnancy. With pregnancy you have the following as a man: 0 Reproductive rights 0 parental rights 100% financial responsibility You claiming casual sex isn't stigmatized is pretty wild. Because the government literally treats men like 2nd class citizens when it comes to sex in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:36 AM
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more interestingly, let's consider the news. who is more likely to react badly to rejection? men or women? there's even a sub about it called r/whenwomenrefuse. unfortunately too many men have such an unchecked drive to DOMINATE. I get that women have this thought but I promise you it's not true. While some men do respond poorly to rejection, the vast majority don't. VAST majority. As a man, rejecting a woman is an absolute nightmare. Women will physically assault you, and nobody will care (espe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:33 AM
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Can you name any?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:20 AM
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This feels like a bad faith attempt to derail the discussion where I give what I consider to be "many" but you don't, and you quibble over that point rather than discuss the main thrust of the question. You haven't even successfully explained what the main thrust of the question is. And how could you have that conversation if your premise is wrong to begin with? Idk what to tell you bro. You're just being absurd here. Calling me bad faith for asking to identify what you even mean in the first pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 10:35 PM
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When you say that it's not really meaning much. What do you mean by so many? How many is that? And if you'd go back and read again, you'd see there's not really evidence to say a large chunk of men just don't care. The evidence shows the contrary. https://www.apa.org/monitor/2011/04/orgasm This paper shows that 90% of men care if their partner has an orgasm. I would ask that you make some type of coherent argument about this. Your initial assumption isn't really backed in either mechanism or dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 09:16 PM
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Not only is that not accurate data, it's just single men...single men in the prime of their life for avoiding relationships. Data sets show that men, especially in that age range, are much less likely to seek relationships and much more likely to seek casual sex. Whereas it's the exact opposite with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 09:12 PM
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It's actually insane how much debunked that is but red pill not only tries to hammer it home constantly, but they try to make it more extreme. Nowadays they're saying 90/05
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 09:09 PM
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I disagree, here's why: 1 evolutionarily speaking it's generally widely believed that women evolved to he much more vocal during sex because it spurs the male to finish or orgasm, thus increasing odds of pregnancy. In other words, men care that women enjoy it from a sexual selection standpoint. 2 females faking orgasms is proof that men care if women enjoy it. Women fake orgasms to make men believe they are pleasing them. If a woman isn't enjoying it the vast majority of men won't even want to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 09:05 PM
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If I'd lost you'd be able to point out something I said that was wrong. Feel free to bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:23 PM
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Yeah, if you don't believe that you're literally anti-evolution. Idk what to tell you because not understanding that basic fact is pretty sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:32 PM
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I mean your comment started pretty logical with the whole statement about maybe she's at a food place and sending pictures of her food to her friends. But took a very strange left turn with all this stuff about onlyfans. Relax bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:26 PM
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Sending someone "cute pics" is an attempt to seak validation. Validation based on physicality is sexual validation. Humans are designed to procreate. Sex drives all things in life. If someone sends you a selfie seeking your sexual validation, they have absolutely no right to be surprised if you take that as interest. In reality what happened with OP is the girls who sent him these pictures are seeking his sexual validation so they can feel good about themselves, and feel as though they have sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:12 PM
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It's more than this. Bad boys hit a box that nice guys often don't. They intimidate women, and in doing so they present a part of themselves that appears capable of violence. Women look to this and see a guy who can protect them, which is both a turn on and a safety mechanism. On the flip side, nice guys (especially ones are capable of real violence) don't present this part of themselves at all. This is for a multitude of reasons, among them being that society demonizes men that fall into the "w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:07 PM
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Yeah I get what you're saying, as in what the girl did was definitely morally wrong, but to call it rape is a huge stretch. It's 1 sex act out of several hundred that occurred that was non-consensual. It's still obviously wrong to do that and nobody should ever do it to anyone, let alone be rewarded for it, but I wouldn't consider it rape. You could call it sexual assault though, almost akin to grabbing someone's ass without their permission, just with much greater consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:52 PM
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That is truly I wild series of events. I dont blame you for it obviously, I know when you haven't been raised properly it can be hard to act like an adult, or in other words, to do the hard but right thing which is to create independence in order to escape for the betterment of yourself. The guy is a scumbag. I'm sympathetic to you because my sister had a very similar experience over the course of 6 years. With similar shaming tactics and insults used to bring her down and make her believe she w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:54 AM
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Yeah well I'm not really interested in someone who shames me for the fact that I was harassed and defamed anyway, so it's a win win. I hope nothing like that ever happens to you or anyone else and if it does that nobody shames you for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 03:26 AM
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It may show up on social media if I'm Googled. I don't know. Not something I will be bringing up to people. If they dig enough they will find some posts on Facebook. The idea I should have to live my life with that in the back of my head though is something I will not he doing, even if it may be optimal to do so. And I would say the same for any other man or woman who's had something similar happen to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 01:45 AM
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No I never said that. I am saying that maybe the guy was a dick to the girl who accused him of rape, but being a dick isn't a good reason to accuse someone of rape falsely. Obviously the only reason to accuse someone of rape is if they actually raped you. And again, that could be the case, but the OP has no idea and merely was angry he didn't address it immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 01:43 AM
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I didn't say it makes him a victim. I read what was available and explained an extremely valid reason he didn't instantly address something that could be extremely hard to talk about Read the post again. In the span of 24 hours this woman searched up his criminal record and saw he was arrested, and NOT convicted of rape, and instantly stopped talking to him because he didn't bring it up. Yeah, I wouldn't either. And yes, maybe he did rape the lady and just got lucky by not going to jail. Who kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 01:38 AM
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Yeah thats absolutely awful. I hope your life is better now and you're finding happiness. Stories like this are hard to read, and even harder to go through. My question is how you managed to finally realize what was going on and how it was destroying you, and how you managed to escape the situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 01:33 AM
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As a guy who has been falsely accused of rape by a girl, simply because I blocked her on snapchat because she was hanging out with other men and I wanted to be with a girl who isn't a whore, she accused me of rape and slandered me across social media. This is the SAME girl who tried to force me to get her pregnant by wrapping her legs on me the moment I mentioned I was close to finishing during sex, and then refused to take a morning after pill. I was very lucky that she did not get pregnant. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 01:03 AM
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I hear about this a lot from women, especially when they cut their hair. But I think it runs deeper than having genuine complaints about your physique. What purpose does it serve to tell someone you don't like how they look? You could argue it's a statement of them wanting to improve your looks, but then why would they complain about things that are genetic, like boobs? Likely you were involved with some narcissists, who had the desire to bring you down in order to elevate themselves. If not thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 12:07 AM
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