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I've only ever been there for a day but everywhere else I went in the States, the accent was a big boost for my time there. I never did approaches, but I'd hang out in bars and chat with friends I'd made on my travels. Over half the time I'd at least have one girl approach me to comment on my accent and I'd go from there.
/r/seduction02/03/24 12:23 PM
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She: "not an issue. It's strange, hehe" That was really annoying me but she's foreigner Having no picture on your WhatsApp isn't common, so while there's a language barrier, it is a bit odd OP. In the same vein you're talking about scammers, she could also be thinking the same thing. Plenty of women get ripped off in lover boy schemes (pro tip: you cannot tell 100% if someone is a scammer - your absolute confidence in this will be your downfall) Was it a shit test? No, it's probably just confusi…
/r/seduction02/03/24 12:19 PM
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Do you have any guy friends you trust, or anyone you're kind of acquainted to on your program? The thing with this is, a lot of guys are going to agree to whatever you say for what they perceive to be an easy lay, so a bit of platonic groundwork might be in order so you don't get messed around.
/r/seduction29/02/24 03:54 PM
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Don't seek confrontation, unless you want to fuck around and find out. And no, you shouldn't want to fuck around and find out. Are you frequently trying to enter a set with another guy potentially doing what you're setting out to do?
/r/seduction28/02/24 10:51 PM
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Do not engage in small talk when building attraction Rapport is for later.
/r/seduction28/02/24 10:19 PM
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Me: jokingly said I know you’d probably say what a rude guy didn’t hold the door for me.. Then asked about her name, I replied saying “that seems like an Arabic name”. This is okay. She: Yeah I’m Iranian, where are you from. Me: Guess. She: Middle east. Me: Be more specific that’s not considered a guess. A bit challenging, no? The elevator opened and we entered and she went quiet and didn’t look at me, she probably put her headphones back on. When the elevator became just me and her, I said you …
/r/seduction28/02/24 10:13 PM
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Is it a shit test? No, because they don't exist. Safety tests exist, congruency tests exist, teasing exists, and shitty behaviour exists. Shit tests are a weak amalgamation of human behaviour that was never correctly expanded on which leaves men second guessing everything. If its any of those it's number 2, or its just a serious question to get to know you. Answer it however you wish, and get to know her. It's no big deal.
/r/seduction28/02/24 01:19 PM
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Thanks for your input, and welcome to your first day on Reddit! Is the message I suggested perfunctory? Seemed pretty normal to me. Or does every message he sends need to be as cutting and witty as your comment history? Congratulations on being so diligent today.
/r/seduction27/02/24 03:17 PM
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Getting any contact details after a short meeting is for the purpose of setting up something down the line. "Hey X, fun meeting you today!" needs to be followed with some kind of invitation or expressed desire to see them again (I'd use the second if you're meeting them on the street). If they decline, they gave their number to get polite and not have to make it awkward. If not, cool - you're on. Now onto your texting: it felt like a LinkedIn cold DM. You keep trying to find other ways of connec…
/r/seduction27/02/24 02:02 PM
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Seconded (well, thirded) on dinner at yours or hers. It won't look like a hookup; it'll look like a third date.
/r/seduction26/02/24 12:01 AM
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Isolating is a key PUA tactic you're missing - it's as important in hiking game as it is in night game - take her off the beaten track to minimise her LMS. /s
/r/seduction25/02/24 06:59 PM
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Thanks!
/r/seduction25/02/24 06:45 PM
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Your philosophy in seduction is really something I haven't seen in a long time. I wish you all the best in your endeavours.
/r/seduction25/02/24 06:42 PM
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You're welcome, bud.
/r/seduction25/02/24 05:48 PM
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I also dont want to seem like a fucking weirdo, which I think makes me seem like a weirdo. A classic self-fulfilling prophecy, right? Yes, it's been 10 years but the fundamentals of game haven't changed in that time - only the avenues to execute on it. If it does come up or its awkward between you two, you can always say you're a bit rusty and didn't mean to come off like an idiot. Because it is, in the grand scheme of things, not a big deal.
/r/seduction25/02/24 05:46 PM
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I'm assuming you're not too brave when it comes to escalating, be that physically or verbally, so that's where the spark dies. The spark isn't about physical attraction, it's about lining up the emotional component to that. It has nothing to do with asking questions, or listening, it's just about eliciting an exciting emotional response.
/r/seduction25/02/24 05:29 PM
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You're impatient as you said, and as the cadence wasn't right you sent a long text as a hail mary. It rarely works, unfortunately. I also noticed you give outs a lot: But look, you're fresh out of a 10-year marriage where I assume you didn't sharpen these skills. Chalk it up as a learning experience and enjoy the bars with your friend. She finally says she was "trying to behave tonight.. trying". I run with it and tell her i feel a flirty vibe between us, and I'm willing to come by and help if s…
/r/seduction25/02/24 05:23 PM
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Not knowing what you want and highlighting you can't have kids doesn't have a link. Really, I think she's put that not to scare people off, but you guys are vibing so she highlighted it. And it's not a big deal because you're not looking for anything long-term, right?
/r/seduction25/02/24 10:51 AM
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You don't want bold things to say in a notebook somewhere, you want situationally bold things to say. To get good at that, you need to: Get comfortable in social situations - relax. Know a little about a lot of things - a boring life leads to boring conversations. Learn how to breathe to bring yourself back to the now. Presence helps you be bold. Assume what you have to say is always good enough. Self-esteem is powerful. Practice lateral thinking - it'll help you make connections others don't se…
/r/seduction25/02/24 10:11 AM
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What I don't understand is how "I don't know yet" fits in with "I can't have kids". I don't think they do, or they're supposed to. if a woman takes the kids topic I'm going to say "hold your horses, I'm only inviting you for a coffe. Haven't asked you to marry me yet" and I will never be able to do differently Okay, but that's not all that was said - the conversation on this topic kept going and going and going, when it could've been capped off with a wink as if it was no big deal.
/r/seduction25/02/24 09:36 AM
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From her perspective, she saw a guy from her class and then that was it. You have nothing to salvage because nothing happened. Pull the trigger after lectures one time and ask her out.
/r/seduction25/02/24 01:59 AM
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Point 1 - if this is a pattern, the universe is telling you to move quicker. Whoever is telling you not to talk in a club is wild if that's the actual advice. Why do you think people pay cover charges, and pay over the odds for drinks, when they could stay at home doing the same thing with their friends. They're looking for an experience and the chance of meeting people. Act quicker.
/r/seduction25/02/24 01:39 AM
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When she heard my voice she said the sound and the accent was so hot she was afraid she couldn't handle a date with me. Guys, send more voice notes. This will up your success rate no end. And OP, she was going into the future because she is certain on one thing - she can't have kids. That's a deal-breaker for a lot of men. She doesn't want to mess you around, and also doesn't want to be messed around as a pump and dump. It wasn't future pacing, it was her managing expectations.
/r/seduction25/02/24 01:07 AM
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Depends where you live. Some places it's fine, others it'll be a shitshow. Try the others - Bumble, Hinge - while you're at it. Don't have your entire profile looking like a photoshoot, it comes off very try hard, have some with friends and you engaging in hobbies which make her go "oooh, manly".
/r/seduction25/02/24 12:49 AM
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Now I am being quite... Tough with OP, but I wouldn't say just because you've had limited success you'd be thinking positive. You have all the stories you've told yourself and the amount of time you've told them to contend with. That's a hard place to be. But if I can give some starter advice - humans are terrible at predicting the future, so you are too. Fuck your predictions, go out and find the truth of the matter! If its a bad truth, come back and we can workshop it here :)
/r/seduction24/02/24 07:15 PM
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You can be in shape and educated and still be authentic. I'm not telling OP to change his personality; I'm alluding to the widely known fact that shared values (i.e. Valuing fitness and education) are key in long-term attraction.
/r/seduction24/02/24 03:47 PM
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Why are you going out solo? You'll find your reason there.
/r/seduction24/02/24 02:41 PM
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First step - work out, don't be ghetto, and be educated. Match what you want. i fear i will just get rejected and or be awkward and fuck it up. So what? If that's the worst that can happen, suck it up and find out. If you have no source of reference you're just making things up. Why play against yourself? We have three options to fix our problems: use money, use time, use effort. If you don't want to use one (money), then be prepared to put in the time and effort, and a lot of it, to get over it…
/r/seduction24/02/24 02:35 PM
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Books: I've only read books which weren't sales funnels. As someone else said here, don't overdo it. The more theory you have, the more you can choose from, the more you get muddled, the more you stay where you are. YT: This is the same as the books - don't overdo it. Courses: There needs to be a live or coached element to it to be of any use to you. While they may tackle high-level concepts, you have all the obligation to implement it, and there's no way to personalise it to your specific situa…
/r/seduction24/02/24 01:40 PM
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Please don't talk to me, weirdo.
/r/seduction21/02/24 10:56 PM
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Not sure where you got that from my comment. I'm just saying rapport-building questions AKA small talk has no place in attraction and seduction.
/r/seduction21/02/24 10:55 PM
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Then a bit of situational awareness is going to be your friend then - you don't need to go in gun's blazing, you can see what's up and then approach if it seems without physical risk.
/r/seduction21/02/24 09:19 PM
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The Charisma Myth - Olivia Fox Cabane
/r/seduction21/02/24 08:20 PM
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If you guys aren't communicating until the day of meeting - you're still hooking up. Relax and enjoy it.
/r/seduction21/02/24 08:07 PM
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I notice you say "angry BFs" and that you've got in trouble approaching before. Did you hit on someone's girl and get in trouble? How have you got in trouble before - let's deal with that first, because it's going to continue to be a source of anxiety for you.
/r/seduction21/02/24 08:04 PM
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Some tips because we have nothing to go on (show screenshots next time): Stop using text as your only mode of digital communication. Use voice notes, call her. Send pictures, GIFs, memes. Texting is by far the worst form of communication. Texting is 100% an energetic discipline. Stop texting women on the toilet, or when you're bored, or when you're tired. If you're going to seduce by text - you need to be in a seductive frame of mind. If you can format your texts, like you can on WhatsApp - do s…
/r/seduction21/02/24 07:53 PM
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This is a critically undervoted comment - I've seen attractive guys with negative game really disappoint women.
/r/seduction21/02/24 07:33 PM
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True, though I was disagreeing with your lightning comment. It can be rebuilt. If, however, the rest of the relationship is languishing... That's a bigger issue to solve (if it can be solved at all).
/r/seduction21/02/24 10:38 AM
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Don't look for one-size-fits-all openers - it's lazy. If their profiles are dry, don't match. This is the reason why dating apps bleed men dry - because they're too flippant with their matches. But... Gun to head... If they have a voice prompt and you like their voice, compliment it. This opens up using voice notes more readily, and they're way better at building attraction than dull words.
/r/seduction20/02/24 10:09 AM
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Play The Question Game: The rules: 1) You take turns asking one question each. 2) If a question has already been asked, it can't be asked by the other person. 3) Everything is on the table, but each person has three passes if you absolutely want to dodge one. 4) You must be 100% truthful in your answers. 5) There is no judgement in The Question Game. Let her lead the tone, unless it's absolutely dire then you can guide it a little. Never pass - passing is for them. 90% of the time it gets philos…
/r/seduction20/02/24 10:00 AM
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I disagree - you can certainly rebuild attraction. I imagine if there was a school of scientific study in seduction, there would be some scientific law that would state the time taken would be inversely proportional to the time attraction hasn't been there. That means it can be difficult depending on time, but it's possible. And because it's happened before, it can happen again. Call out the dynamic change lovingly & commit to bringing it back. Do the things she finds masculine and attractive. B…
/r/seduction20/02/24 09:53 AM
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That game should have been used from the beginning of the relationship. This is a PSA: Seduction doesn't finish once you're in a relationship, that is when it truly begins. Hookups and short-term dating are easy in comparison. You must keep seducing your woman. Always.
/r/seduction20/02/24 09:41 AM
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What have you already done?
/r/seduction19/02/24 11:08 PM
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Jo Malone Oud and Bergamot Penhaligon Halfeti Leather
/r/seduction19/02/24 10:59 PM
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You've stumbled upon a key fact of seduction - seeking rapport does nothing to build attraction. She's been asked about her course/her job/her siblings & pets a billion times before - this doesn't feel exciting or different = unmatched. Instead, have fun conversations, make them exciting, make them sexually polarising. You can find out about who she is later. Right now, you're there to to excite her. Talking about her mundane life doesn't do that.
/r/seduction19/02/24 10:56 PM
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Well, lets reframes your current mindset first - here's another way of putting it: "Talking to me puts others $1000 in debt." That is a fucking wild way to look at social interactions. Going in with that attitude is a way to fail immediately. Now, what's your cashapp - I have a request to make.
/r/seduction19/02/24 10:40 AM
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Basically every man ever. The reason being is because we start to attach outcomes to the engagement and how it must go. The Way out is to treat everyone on an equal social playing field - no one has any more social power than you, you're allowed to talk to whoever you want.
/r/seduction18/02/24 11:49 PM
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Nah - there's only a few pictures I took at that event, and they were only with friends or clients. The only pictures I can find of him were with Zan Perrion or his business partner.
/r/seduction18/02/24 11:42 PM
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Come on, bud - you know the answer. Stop outsourcing the responsibility in case you make the decision to do it and get inevitably burned.
/r/seduction18/02/24 05:07 PM
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Reach out when you're genuinely feeling like reaching out. I'm convinced even something as artificial as texting is an energetic affair - if you're feeling good, feeling attracted, this is when you reach out. No more texting women when you're bored, men. Wait until you really want to. Also, don't text - it's the lowest form of communication. Send her a voice note.
/r/seduction18/02/24 05:05 PM
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Awareness is curative, but also compulsory. You have a label for the things that have afflicted you, now it's time to do the work. Therapy doesn't necessarily work for men as well as it does for women - there are fledgling studies on this, but it's a pretty new field of study, but it seems as though it can actually aggravate some forms of mental illness in men. There are things like Shadow Work and other forms of Mythopoetic study (it's the kind of men's work they did in the 80s - think Iron Joh…
/r/seduction18/02/24 04:56 PM
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I met him last year in Romania - he was speaking at a small event I was speaking at. He and his business partner Beckster are pleasant guys, the magic is cool, his philosophy around this doesn't seem to have changed much. He stayed in town for a couple of weeks after and then they flew to VC for an intensive, I think. Edit: It was actually 2022 now I checked the pictures of the event.
/r/seduction18/02/24 04:50 PM
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Lesson 1, stop calling them females. All you lurkers out there - this is a golden rule. Lesson 2, treat them with the same kindness and consideration as you would expect from someone professing to care about you. This is another golden rule. Great job, u/ROBYoutube
/r/seduction18/02/24 04:42 PM
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Christ man... Life isn't erotic fiction - you can get in serious trouble for this. All it takes is for her to regret her decision or see it in a different light to you, and know where you work for stuff to get really dicey. Please consider this in the future.
/r/seduction18/02/24 04:35 PM
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"Hey man, I've noticed some actions of yours that are crossing a boundary in my relationship. I'd appreciate it if you stopped." Then have a conversation.
/r/seduction18/02/24 04:30 PM
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When you're lonely, you actually become less empathetic in the sense you're less able to pick up on the emotions of others correctly. So yeah, it'll mess your game up big time.
/r/seduction16/02/24 11:03 PM
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Then it sounds like it will be tough to pull off. What makes you want to live with multiple girlfriends, and would you leave your girl if that was the only way?
/r/seduction16/02/24 10:47 PM
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I mean are you going to have the time, effort and resources to keep two relationships blooming? Are you a special type of guy? Can you orchestrate two relationships at the same time and keep jealousy coming up? This isn't standard game; it's nuanced and niche. You can be a great guy, but regardless of what you hear on the internet - a lot of people don't want to share. You're going to have to have a special proposition and know the right type of women to even start. And they're going to need to …
/r/seduction16/02/24 10:31 PM
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If she's not down, you'll need to find someone else. Relationships are negotiations, polyamorous relationships are complex negotiations. Do you have enough negotiating power to pull this off?
/r/seduction16/02/24 09:15 PM
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Ah, thanks for the compliment - I really appreciate it. I'll be uploading more than the video thats already there once I've finished filming a new curriculum for my community. If you'd consider subscribing, that'd be dope.
/r/seduction16/02/24 09:06 PM
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It took it sincerely - you're more than welcome :) As for book game - if it stays largely theoretical and philosophical, you're absolutely right - it comes off stilted. I think a lot of guys get stuck in the learning, waiting to be perfect, which is unfortunate.
/r/seduction16/02/24 08:56 PM
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"Hey, thanks for the photo. Can I buy you a drink for stealing your spot at the (debate thing) yesterday?"
/r/seduction16/02/24 09:16 AM
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Become a watcher of your preferences - why has this woman captured your attention rather than that one? Another longer (but more effective) game is to become the mayor of the gym - get social with everyone. Someone catches your eye? Nod and say hey. Congratulate people on a tough set. Be social with the women, the men, the staff. But don't pick up there - gyms can be vulnerable places. Pick people up when you see them in public. This one is dependent on how often you see these people outside. I …
/r/seduction16/02/24 09:15 AM
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Genuine interest and curiosity go a long way in opening an interaction. Why do you want to speak to her? If it’s just because she's hot, look deeper.
/r/seduction16/02/24 08:46 AM
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The "charisma being a trait" thing isn't uncommon. Read The Charisma Myth by Olivia Fox Cabane and that flip the script. As for game, fun fact: there have been books on pick-up specifically since the 60s.
/r/seduction16/02/24 08:43 AM
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Take the two perspectives I gave you and think about them daily. Make it a routine. Awareness is curative, but it's also compulsory. If you're living clean, you are a specimen. This is not a detraction on your character, use it as power. Assume you're everyone's type from here on. They can correct that assumption, but start from a place of confidence. Assume the women you're attracted to are attracted to you. Really, the base level of building a relationship is basic attraction and shared values…
/r/seduction15/02/24 10:27 PM
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Being subtle is exactly how you put yourself in the friendzone. You barely know these girls, pull the trigger and make your intentions known.
/r/seduction15/02/24 10:22 PM
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Chalk it up as experience and move on. There are plenty of gorgeous women out there, don't get hung up on the one you had a shit date with.
/r/seduction15/02/24 10:13 PM
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Stop seeing women you're interested in as different in value from other women. You know you can be charming, so do that.
/r/seduction15/02/24 09:56 PM
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It doesn't have to be necessary. Are you both clear on what this is? She may try to move the boundaries, and you just need to respectfully reshare them. If she's not okay with it, wish her well. More often than not, if you're cool with how you convey this, women can be surprisingly chill with it.
/r/seduction15/02/24 09:48 PM
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I'd have gone travelling earlier haha. I left my country at 25 for Europe, and that was when my success started because I could be exactly who I wanted to be. We have a common cognitive bias called the "spotlight bias" - we think people are noticing us more than they are. We are way more invisible and forgetful than we think. I never vibed with day game - locals are busy - but you're a nomad, meet other travellers, they're just as isolated as you are and want to meet people and make memories. Ca…
/r/seduction15/02/24 09:16 PM
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Can you outline your idea of game - is there a common process you follow? Anything you commonly do, and any common obstacles you come up against?
/r/seduction15/02/24 08:50 PM
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Both charisma and game are definitely skills you can learn.
/r/seduction15/02/24 08:49 PM
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Read up on the Spotlight Effect - you are not that special - no-one is - and everyone is so wrapped up in their own world to immediately have their attention captured by some guy.
/r/seduction15/02/24 09:30 AM
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That's why I was asking where you lived, so I can tailor my advice. But still, while some people play this type of game when seducing, you can see it 90% of the time when you're aware. If you're not seeing it, it's just disinterest and disrespect and/or your friends are merely persistent in gaming immature women.
/r/seduction14/02/24 05:24 PM
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Done
/r/seduction14/02/24 08:04 AM
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Where do you live for these to be legitimate shit tests? Because they all just sound like disinterest or disrespect.
/r/seduction14/02/24 08:03 AM
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ADHD and autism don't preclude you from game. I have the former, and have seen the latter do really well when they apply themselves. You say your friends call you retarded and socially inept. Get better friends. They won't be helping your inner world, and if you believe them it'll kill your game. Read: - The Charisma Myth, Olivia Fox Cabane That's the only book for now. Apply it, and find out where you lie in the Power - Presence - Warmth triad. Then, learn to enjoy game. It's called game becaus…
/r/seduction13/02/24 09:08 PM
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I dont know the ins and outs of the stages of autism, what I do know is that if you're on the spectrum you're normally really good at learning new things you're interested in, right? Ive also heard you experience others' emotions more intensely? This is what I've learnt from clients in the past, but I don't have any first-hand experience and only recently learning from my girl's brother. If this is the case though, and you're genuinely interested in seduction - you have a super power my friend. …
/r/seduction13/02/24 08:47 PM
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Looking for perfection is a fool's game though. In fact, it's dangerous to attach that to love. Maybe you are aromantic, maybe you're still carrying that divorce on your shoulders a little without even knowing it, maybe she's just not the one. Is that bridge burnt, or could you pursue it potentially?
/r/seduction13/02/24 07:54 PM
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Looks like you're satisfying two of those (thinking about her everyday and comparing her to everyone else, which makes me think you think she's better than them) - the only one you're not doing is thinking about your future with her. But you are thinking you may have made a mistake...
/r/seduction13/02/24 07:45 PM
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What do you think love is/feels like?
/r/seduction13/02/24 07:38 PM
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If your female friends are solid, they can be incredible wingmen. Girls know other girls. Be good to them, and they'll be good to you. By this I don't mean simping or anything like that - be an exciting, pleasant presence in their lives and they're going to want to help you out. There's a start. As for OLD, I'd need to see a profile.
/r/seduction13/02/24 07:25 PM
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Spotlight bias - no-one cares. You really need to put in the work to be seen as "that guy".
/r/seduction13/02/24 07:14 PM
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Don't worry, bro - it happens. Chalk it up as a learning exercise and move on. In terms of taking down a number being the optimal thing to do... Time restraints? You're leaving but you had a good initial interaction? But even then I'd probably invite her along to the next place.
/r/seduction13/02/24 06:25 PM
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She grabs you, and you respond by asking for her number? Sort those logistics out, and finish the night off with a bang. Yes, pun intended. If you're missing invitations like that, it's no wonder these women are ghosting you. Get brave, and make the ask.
/r/seduction13/02/24 03:23 PM
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Being articulate and eloquent is super important in seduction. And that can be learnt. Try The Charisma Myth by Olivia Fox Cabane for starters.
/r/seduction13/02/24 02:45 PM
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They invest less. Meaning their time is spent elsewhere on their projects and passions, and the girl they are seeing merely complements that. People with less (or un-)interesting lives make the people they date a focal point of their lives because that is where they find the most fulfilment. Then, if you are truly leading an interesting and full life, she will be invited into that. This expands her horizons of what life is, excites her, and she wants more of it. Be uncommon amongst the uncommon.…
/r/seduction13/02/24 02:00 PM
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The things you learnt are more building rapport than charisma. To minimise the pleasant nature of what you're already doing: Change the reactivity in what people say, to acting on curiosity - it comes off passionate. Try not to fake it, as it'll come off as disingenuous. If you're attracted to the woman, don't try to hide it physiologically. You don't have to be overt, but if you're into her, your voice and will begin to drop lower and you'll speak slower automatically. This comes with enjoying …
/r/seduction26/01/24 01:17 PM
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I matched with a girl on Tinder whom I really liked and we texted heavily towards the end of last year. There. There is where you said it.
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