No_Reception_5767 Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
10	New York Post: Where are the men of courage? They’re gone thanks to ‘toxic masculinity’. Fixed That For You. I wasn't trying to point out that there was anything particularly wrong with your comment, except to note that the golden rule applies to everyone, including male victims.	/r/MensRights	03/06/22 03:37 AM
0	New York Post: Where are the men of courage? They’re gone thanks to ‘toxic masculinity’. conventional masculinity is toxic because of the positive traits it suppresses -- compassion, chiefly. Rather than just labeling this as toxic, wouldn't we be better treating it as a form of intergenerational trauma? After all, it's only a few generations since huge proportions of men were expected to charge into battle and kill other men, or toil away stoically in brutal work environments. Of course compassion wouldn't be a positive or adaptive trait for all that.	/r/MensRights	03/06/22 03:09 AM
3	New York Post: Where are the men of courage? They’re gone thanks to ‘toxic masculinity’. In short, it's mostly tradcon crap, yeah. What's sad is that it's only the Right that seems to acknowledge the bad effects of the constant negativity surrounding the public conversation about masculinity and the simplistic ways serious men's issues are blamed on "male entitlement". She's not totally wrong when she writes "We raise boys in a soup of reproach and negativity that tells them their intrinsic nature is diseased". That may not be the intention, but that is what many boys experience.	/r/MensRights	03/06/22 02:42 AM
19	New York Post: Where are the men of courage? They’re gone thanks to ‘toxic masculinity’. "Therefore, anyone should try to do what they would want a stranger to do for their own [child] if [they] were in such a situation." FTFY	/r/MensRights	03/06/22 01:51 AM
3	New York Post: Where are the men of courage? They’re gone thanks to ‘toxic masculinity’. I'm not really getting your point or how it ties into the rest of the article. Clearly these police (whether male and female officers) need to work on their response protocols, and other things need to be done to reduce the likelihood of more incidents like this. The article seems to think it's a man's special duty to be the hero in situations like this. Why should it be?	/r/MensRights	03/06/22 01:48 AM
-7	Why do some people yell at men that women don’t owe them a relationship, when these men are depressed and just want to vent about their inability of finding a partner? You said, "Men are not even perceived as human until they are useful." But feminism didn't set that up. It's a shitty societal expectation that's much older. I get that it's easy to want to resent feminism because it freed women from many of their own societal expectations, while doing almost nothing for men. The result is we have a lot of double standards and one-way expectations. And I'm not denying that feminism is also directly responsible for a few things that were bad for men (eg. Duluth m…	/r/MensRights	03/06/22 01:19 AM
9	New York Post: Where are the men of courage? They’re gone thanks to ‘toxic masculinity’. I don't have an issue sacrificing myself for others if I'm rewarded for it, supported, and loved by my community. Aside from any considerations of gender, it might be considered virtuous to sacrifice oneself without the need for reward. As you say, the problem is the expectation that males sacrifice themselves in certain ways, just because they're male.	/r/MensRights	03/06/22 12:27 AM
15	New York Post: Where are the men of courage? They’re gone thanks to ‘toxic masculinity’. Yep, tradcons masquerading as being on men's side. They really just want us to go back to being society's meatshields, but that social contract died with "anything you can do, I can do better". Just as some feminist women returned to domestic life on their own terms, some liberated men will eventually return to traditional male roles on their own terms too, but not before there's a much bigger shakeup.	/r/MensRights	03/06/22 12:13 AM
-17	Why do some people yell at men that women don’t owe them a relationship, when these men are depressed and just want to vent about their inability of finding a partner? What exactly is the point of this sub if not to showcase how feminism dehumanizes men? Because feminism isn't the source of all (even most) of men's problems today. Men's advocates blaming feminism for everything is like one frog blaming another frog for having jumped out of the same boiling pot. Sure, the frog that jumped out was mainly thinking about itself, and it still is despite claiming otherwise. On its way out, it even gave a couple of nasty kicks that weren't helpful. And more and more …	/r/MensRights	02/06/22 11:56 PM
6	Heard Blasted Over Statement: ‘Doesn’t Realize How Much Damage Her Lies Have Done’ To ‘Abuse Victims’ In my country they interviewed a DV specialist on national news following the trial result, and her only response was to tell women not to be afraid to keep coming forward if they are experiencing abuse. And sure, that is one outcome of this - Heard has done damage in that way. But surely, after all this, the interviewee could have said just one sentence about male victims; that they exist and that they too should be believed more and should not be afraid to come forward.	/r/MensRights	02/06/22 10:58 PM
9	Heard Blasted Over Statement: ‘Doesn’t Realize How Much Damage Her Lies Have Done’ To ‘Abuse Victims’ I think you've hit the nail on the head that subreddits are not a good place to gauge opinion, especially on topics like feminism and men's issues - because of the echo chamber effect. You should be cautious about putting any movement entirely in a box. In the same way that you can get some perspective on world events by reading different international news sources, you might get some perspective on men's issues by checking the various men's subs (eg. r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates, r/MensLib ) but ack…	/r/MensRights	02/06/22 10:56 PM
6	I found these, and I genuinely think it’s a good idea for a proper movement to move away from feminism and towards a more egalitarian movement. Thoughts? You've just illustrated one of the reasons why feminism continues to be ill-suited to dealing with men's issues and issues surrounding masculinity. Even when talking about a men's issue - Toxic Masculinity - you have to make it about women and make it impossible to centre men. As much as the term is problematic, most people here would agree that TM is a real thing. But it is not about seeing women and femininity as inferior, as dictated by patriarchy theory. All forms of masculinity and feminini…	/r/MensRights	02/06/22 09:54 PM