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DiscussionNo_Start1522/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 06:41 PM
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No_Start1522/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 11:40 PM
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Why are you friends with women who you believe have no self respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 01:30 AM
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You are taking the metaphor too directly. I was using it as an analogy to how I suspect the influence of such ideas would work over time. Waxing and waning like epidemics of the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:12 AM
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I see the disconnect. You are assuming that developed societies will not devolve into artisanal labor. My assumption is that devolution is inevitable due to demographics inversion disrupting education investment, simply due to the majority of resources going towards supporting the elderly, rather than progressing society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:26 AM
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Why do you think I’m bootlicking? Usually this wouldn’t be an argument, so you have me confused. Do you believe companies would rather pay more to use robot over much cheaper slave labor, if they could get away with it? What I mean by stability is that they must be able to protect the investment from thieves and sabotage. That is why less developed societies still rely heavily on artisans, rather than automation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 07:07 AM
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Companies want to eliminate liabilities, not labor itself. That is why labor is outsourced whenever possible when it’s considered too expensive domestically. The elimination of labor is a phenomenon of robotics, however that requires a level of sophistication and stability that is uncommon globally and, by your own account, diminishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 06:32 AM
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It’s just a term I’m using for lack of a better way to describe the gender war ideologies. I mean anti-natalistic in the sense they forgo having children due to irreconcilable differences with the opposite gender or society at large, not just orthodox anti-natalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 06:25 AM
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We can agree to disagree, however I will make one more attempt. While I won’t discount the other problems, the reason I believe Decree 770 worked in Romania is because humans are animal, driven by our urges more than our intellect. The animal drive to have sex is great enough to overcome morality or the recognition of suffering. As was shown, it only requires someone to be so cruel, or so compelled, to deny access to contraceptive that the demographic decline turns around. Short of there being a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 06:14 AM
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I do not believe there is such a degree of separation between our societies. I also do not believe anything will be as consequential as the demographic inversion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 05:23 AM
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I’d consider Romania a western country, however that’s not the point I was making. I’m saying that other states will take from that example, since without voluntary natalism society would collapse. I understand there are unique histories and circumstances that created those cultures, however that is immaterial to my commentary, since I’m acknowledging their ability and inclination to implement such policies here. I’m curious to hear your opinion on what I presented as a likely future, considerin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 05:02 AM
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Certainly a problem for future generations. My concern is that we are trending towards a future similar to China or North Korea, as far as gender norms are concerned. A state that will eventually impose natalism by law through punitive tax policy or more oppressive policies. It seems most likely to me in light of the demographic inversion they are facing, and there is precedent for such policies working, despite the cruelty. For example, in Romania during communism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 03:15 AM
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I do not see natalism as a moral necessity, nor do I discount other reasons to not have children. Let’s reset since we seem to be talking past one another. I’m curious what you believe the future of gender norms will be, acknowledging that all developed societies are trending towards demographic inversion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 02:52 AM
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To be clear, I’m speaking of ideological change over generations. My skepticism is that modern views will be seen favorable in the future, due to the inability to promote natalism in society. I’m curious if others have a more optimistic viewpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 02:40 AM
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I’m confused what you mean? I’m not advocating for the patriarchy, however my concern is that we are trending back toward that due to a lack of natalism in society. I believe that in the absence of a cohesive social movement that unifies the sexes through cooperation, we will go to a world of inequitable relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 02:31 AM
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Not in the sense that those ideas remain ascendant. I imagine a lot of people would be disappointed to know their choice to not have children helped bring back the patriarchy in the future, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 01:58 AM
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I mean anti-natalistic in the sense they forgo having children due to irreconcilable differences with the opposite gender or society at large, not just orthodox anti-natalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 01:46 AM
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One could say the era of defined courtship roles, despite oppressive institutions, was quite cohesive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 01:44 AM
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For feminist, I find they classify into either sex negative or sex positive feminists. The sex positive feminists tend to have an easier time with reconciling motherhood, though they seem to be a minority of women I’ve encountered.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 01:42 AM
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Contemporary Feminism is highly individualist, to a point it encourages women to not be make compromises on motherhood. This is similarly true for Red/Black pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 01:32 AM
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If I worded it as, “what is the future of gendered belief systems?” Would that be valid?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 01:50 AM
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Your premise is correct, but the logic is flawed. Generally, the reason men do not like feminism is the same reason YN’s do not like the criminal justice system. Most people do not like being criticized.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 06:17 PM
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True, though we are talking about an improbable hypothetical where all women have access to all men and vice versa. Language barriers being the most obvious issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:46 AM
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I think you are mixing economics with courtship. While there is supply and demand, courtship isn’t an inelastic product. Even if I was a red pill man, the obvious answer would be hypergamous polyandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:18 AM
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You are catastrophizing a singular act of social signaling by adding your personal feeling on politics. Most people care little for politics and it doesn’t make them instantly a partisan the moment they give social grace to a VIP you hate. As for your “fake allies” argument, it depends on the context. Certainly, leftists are not allies for women who do not want trans-women in women’s changing rooms and other vulnerable spaces for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:46 AM
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Laughing uproariously or laughing nervously/courteously? Additionally, people laugh at others getting hurt. Does that make them a sociopath?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:30 AM
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Yes, agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 06:48 PM
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Your idea of love is a cultural-religious fascination I’ve never been certain if it comes from inherent, ego self protection or from Christian influence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:46 PM
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You’re assuming most relationships are healthy in the manner most ideal. Just like with intelligence, most relationships are mediocre.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:41 PM
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Not to diminish your experiences, however the music and entertainment industry in general are one of the worst offenders of people’s dignity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 06:42 AM
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Men are uncomfortable competing with women for the same reason a lot of people believe men and women cannot be platonic friends. Most men have low emotional intelligence when it comes to women, though most are aware enough to know right from wrong. Unfortunately, those inadequately expressed emotions quickly turn into feelings of repression when they cannot express themselves fully. Around men, they feel safe expressing those feeling, they do not around women, and for a good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 06:34 AM
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That is simply a platitude used to justify the scheme. If you consider who were the actual beneficiaries vs who has legitimate research to quantify levels of discrimination, you’d see that all systems of favoritism become rot and corrupt, regardless of good intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 05:18 AM
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It was not but a few years ago that white women were considered the greatest beneficiaries of affirmative action.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 05:14 AM
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This is naive. While I also encourage better gender relations, I understand we are not close enough to not have discriminatory practices when one side has leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 05:09 AM
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While I’m always skeptical of nepotism, we have only recently seen legal favoritism for one side, in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 05:08 AM
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80/20 is another way of talking about hypergamy. While Redpillers do bluster on about the evidence they have, if they were being honest, they’d agree that dating apps are not an encapsulation of life. What they would say, however, is that any woman worth a damn is going to have a competitive mentality, which suggests hypergamy as a reasonable expectation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 08:09 PM
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Even if we entertain the concept of 80/20, you do realize that that concept itself is not taken as academically rigorous? 80/20 is a trope, a stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 08:02 PM
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As much as I don’t want to give credence to this, he most likely is correct. Commercial advertising, photography and social media management are the most like candidate to have done this, and they are dominated by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:19 PM
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As much as I don’t want to give credence to this, he most likely is correct. Commercial advertising, photography and social media management are the most like candidate to have done this, and they are dominated by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:19 PM
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A gay man might.🤓
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:12 PM
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Gay men are a much smaller demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:19 PM
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You tell me, you asked if people donating to homeless people didn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:10 AM
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I’m confused. I meant that you know I don’t believe in unconditional love, so what do you believe my answer would be?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:59 AM
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Both are needed to be a healthy person. Only having confidence from within is just narcissism. Only having confidence from others is people pleasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:23 AM
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A lot of red pill commentary on women is just building justification for their amoral behavior. Outside of that, they do provide valid commentary for the more base human behaviors, some of which is subversive, which excites rebellious types.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:44 AM
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I’m curious. Knowing that I disagree, what do you believe my answer to this question will be?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:21 PM
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That’s called negging. it’s part of red pill, pick artist strategy (ergo amorality).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:25 PM
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This is kinda like unconditional love. It doesn’t exist, but it’s disillusioning to not pretend it does. You’ll find a lot of courting as a man is about negotiating these contradictions, since these things have little to do with morality. In this case, it’s about feeling special.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:20 PM
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Can’t force men to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:11 AM
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Men, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:09 AM
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I don’t think women hate men. Their behavior is more impotent frustration than hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:30 AM
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Depends on your definition of care.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:51 AM
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Honestly, I was confused about her question as well, so I wasn’t going to respond. Thank you for solving this for me!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:35 AM
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I tend to believe there is a conscientiousness bell curve, just like with intelligence. Genuinely blue pill women and men make up a small percent of people versus the unwashed masses of more animalistic people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:58 AM
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Always remember that the vast majority of people are self protective of their ego to a fault, especially women when sexuality is discussed. Women who are unwilling to acknowledge that their sexuality has nothing to do with morality are simply protecting their ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:41 AM
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Historically, orphans were often placed into apprenticeship based adoption, to work as indentured servants until they reached the age of majority. The Orphan Train movement was one of a number of similar programs replicated in English countries. While no system was ideal, children raised by parents in desperate poverty and criminality is a recipe for that behavior to be replicated by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 04:44 AM
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I think you are mixing MRA with red/black pillers and pickup artists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 04:28 AM
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Kinda the fault of those gender abolitionist, radfems that protest the idea of MRA and equate feminism to egalitarianism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 04:21 AM
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Societies that trend away from institutional patriarchy tend to experience rapidly declining birth rates. Such societies are inherently unsustainable, and there has never been a case where subsidizing births in a feminist manner has ever worked. It is inevitable, therefore, that either a technological means to replace humans or birth would be needed to continue a progressive civilization. Otherwise, society will begin regressing as childless people are replaced with those that have children (e.g…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 04:38 AM
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The gender wars will continue until either we are technologically at a point we can realistically have a transhumanist society or their is a collapse of society and we return to patriarchy. Men and women have not evolved for psychosocial comparability, and that’s before you consider whether enough people have the intellectual competence or integrity to responsibly use feminist ideology. We can either move forwards or backwards here, there are no other choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 04:09 AM
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Male libido is a powerful motivator. Additionally, men are generally expected to initiate, so scrutinizing our feeling for women is less of a priority over observing the woman’s emotions. It takes a change of venue to get men out of that mindset. If you make friends before choosing to date, you are more likely to encounter a more considerate partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 11:00 PM
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You are correct, most men’s initial attraction is based on appearance, especially when there is no established friendship before dating. I would change your venue and mindset for dating if you do not like this behavior. Try to become friends with men, then choose the best fit as a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:34 PM
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I think you are encountering survivor bias. People still in LTR tend to be people in satisfactory relationships, otherwise they are on the way out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:23 PM
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It’s shallow to assume something to be true based on one factor alone. You mush take the totality of evidence before judging.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 12:34 AM
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Just to be clear, they were saying you’d be a better school councilor than most of the ones they’ve dealt with, even as a teacher.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 07:32 PM
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You would be among the top % of School Councilors for memory retention and care, based on the word of both a special education teacher and a retired ELA. Either you can take pride in that or not, however the shoe fits. The retired one did sympathize, but said they’d be skeptical, since most ELA’s compartmentalize everything. Short of some new concern, the problem cases take up too much attention and can skew perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 06:50 PM
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Absolutely agreed! The point I was making was that if you divert those urges, which otherwise they’d express through genuine interest in dating and socializing, they are depriving themselves that experience and are more likely to express themselves in an antisocial manner, especially when they are frustrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 05:52 AM
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I think you vastly underestimate male libido, especially considering contrasts between the male homosexual and heterosexual populations.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 05:42 AM
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Just for charities sake, how much of the population would you actually say are just, “low sexual interest,” especially in the male population?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 05:36 AM
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I’m uncertain of how relevant narcissism is to these things, especially of the actual disordered variety I’m describing… Well I tried, but you seem intractable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 05:34 AM
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Like I said, it depends on how they arrived at that low drive/interest. If they have a low drive because they use porn, they are likely to have deprived themselves the drive to date and socialize instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 05:20 AM
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It was a hypothetical, however I can try to give a good example. A narcissist normally struggles with ethics. You cannot empathetically reason with a narcissist, since their motives are always self-referential. By convincing a narcissist that there is a god judging them, you can adjust their actions towards social ends, even if their motives are selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 05:13 AM
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I have no strong opinions, but I suspect people have found a lower effort way to divert their sexual urges elsewhere, like porn. Depriving themselves of even that much drive does equate to a decline in socialization. If they don’t have the urge to date, they will not gain experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 05:04 AM
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This is not always true, but you seem convinced otherwise. If a person had better outcomes believing in a god than they ever would using conventional therapy, would you reject them that simply because of your biases?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 04:55 AM
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As I said, humans are not inherently rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 04:51 AM
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It’s mostly concerning as an indication of declining socialization. Depending on the cause for the decline, one could say the rise of antisocial behaviors from so-called incels is a direct consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 04:49 AM
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Some problems are existential and cannot be addressed through therapy. You must remember, humans are not inherently rational animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 04:47 AM
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I’m going to immediately doubt your opinion, simply because you claim to be aware enough of student relationships within a school, even as a teacher. Unless your school is tiny, nobody has time for that nonsense, especially a teacher.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 04:41 AM
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